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[0:13] I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic

[0:19] for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:26] justice for all. All

[0:35] right. Robo

[0:39] » here. Ryan

[0:43] » here. Felix

[0:45] » here. >> All president.

[0:53] All right. We have now approval of the agenda.

[1:00] Motion to approve those motion made.

[1:06] All in favor? Any vote?

[1:13] Consent agenda. Motion passes. Consent agenda from the previous

[1:18] meeting. Report collector's report bills for payment. city clerk to pay for

[1:22] evenly appropriate expenses that you can do by the budget.

[1:28] It should be in your package. Do you hear me?

[1:32] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[1:38] Can you see anything?

[1:43] » Uh I can see everything. Uh I don't have a packet with me unless

[1:48] you did Leslie email it to me.

[1:53] I can get you to scan. I didn't want to scan anything else.

[1:58] Actually, I can send I'll send it over to you. Okay.

[2:17] All

[2:28] right.

[2:53] » [snorts]

[3:00] » Doc, you getting those? >> Yeah, I have them.

[3:03] » I appreciate that. Yes. Okay. So here

[4:05] Okay.

[4:13] Mhm.

[4:19] something.

[4:41] Yeah.

[4:48] Yeah.

[5:02] Heat.

[5:21] level.

[5:36] I'm sorry. All right. Okay.

[5:43] » Okay.

[5:47] » I got one more for you and it should be it.

[5:50] » All right. >> Sorry.

[5:55] Not very fast here. And by the time you receive them,

[5:59] » okay, >> you should be good now.

[6:04] Heat.

[6:25] Heat.

[7:24] Heat. Heat.

[8:12] Are you ready?

[8:16] Heat.

[8:40] Heat.

[9:24] Everybody had a chance to review Doc. You still reviewing?

[9:28] » Uh, yeah. >> Okay.

[9:49] Heat. Heat.

[10:12] questions on it

[10:17] on that consent agenda

[10:23] here. Okay.

[10:35] You asking for a second? >> Oh, there's

[10:39] no motion. I just was a motion. >> I'm sorry.

[10:43] » That's all right. >> I was making sure got caught up.

[10:48] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[10:56] Come here.

[11:22] Just

[11:27] [clears throat] all right.

[11:51] Yep.

[12:03] » Okay.

[12:20] a lot of the wrong

[12:37] whatever. There's

[12:54] no

[13:01] just

[13:33] It's good. How many How many rolls?

[13:39] » 29.

[14:52] Very

[15:13] good.

[15:20] Very

[15:24] cool.

[15:46] So that sounds

[16:12] » papers. C.

[16:18] » Huh? >> C.

[16:22] » Okay. >> Caleb's

[16:37] name.

[16:43] beautiful.

[16:55] » Uh

[16:59] general hydraulics general hydraulics.

[17:22] That's the place.

[17:36] This time this American

[17:52] [clears throat]

[18:07] coming from the cold to that junction.

[18:11] What did you call white

[18:21] over there? >> That's your main line. That's

[18:30] » a three base cut off. >> Three phase.

[18:32] » Three phase. >> Three phase shut off.

[18:35] » Three phase. [snorts]

[18:37] here at three phase

[18:41] » transfer switch.

[18:49] [snorts] >> Yeah, it's three phase.

[19:03] All right. I'll be still working on that.

[19:18] » Yeah.

[19:41] Heat. Heat.

[20:27] Yeah.

[21:34] » [clears throat]

[22:37] » How many miles? Eight.

[23:16] » [clears throat]

[23:19] » Not too hard.

[23:47] I just need to clarify something. Am I supposed to be reviewing something?

[23:52] I have no direction here on what to do. [clears throat]

[23:55] » You always you review the consent agenda. The board makes a motion on the

[23:59] floor of the consent agenda. It needs to be seconded. If you all agree on the

[24:04] consent agenda and all what the reconciles, the budget reports and

[24:08] what's in the packet and then it votes on it. If it passes or dies or carries

[24:15] or dies >> and that's what we're supposed to be

[24:17] looking at right now. >> Yeah. I mean for I mean can but I mean

[24:20] that's what we're supposed to be doing right now.

[24:24] » Yeah. I didn't know if you had motion on the table. I was asking

[24:29] » Yeah.

[24:33] I just I guess

[24:41] » the receipt or whatever. >> Ask the clerk. I mean,

[24:48] » what does he want?

[24:53] » That giant boulder. We'll be here all night.

[24:59] and then >> No, we didn't. That's what the treasurer

[25:04] is for. That's what the chamber pays the big money.

[25:08] » Huh? >> And he didn't show.

[25:10] » No, I asked him to. We can talk about that later. That's what I'm saying.

[25:15] » Oh, this is the same as prior before,

[25:19] » right? >> We've been printing out 44 pages.

[25:23] » No. No. >> You know what I mean?

[25:25] » No, pretty much. know what's going on. Just want to see what

[25:30] » I even asked him to do that he even showed that

[25:35] » summary budget, >> you know, budget summary.

[25:39] » I thought we had to look at that at home and then just came to vote on it

[25:42] tonight. >> Yeah, this is just what you got the

[25:46] monthlys are. This is the basic stuff. So,

[25:48] » can we move on then? >> Yeah, we we need a motion and a second.

[25:52] » I like a motion that we approve it and move on.

[25:58] I'll second >> by Rose. All in favor?

[26:07] » I

[26:11] Okay.

[26:18] » Okay. All right. Moving on. All right. We got here

[26:25] this previous meeting for anybody signing up.

[26:33] » Okay. Uh does the board want to make any is yours for permitting,

[26:43] Steve? >> Well, I'm just going to share you guys

[26:46] my ideas about what what the project is and what I'm interested in doing. that

[26:50] you guys thoughts on it. >> You like brought in blueprints or

[26:55] something like that. >> Yeah, I just kind of handed stuff to

[26:58] some. >> I mean, can I just kind of share with

[27:01] you guys? >> Sure, Steve. Now, there's two of you

[27:04] here tonight. Are you both here to speak to us tonight?

[27:06] » Yeah. >> Okay. So, what we're saying is there's a

[27:09] signup sheet or something. >> Yeah.

[27:13] » Okay. So, come anytime you want to talk. We just want to make sure everybody get

[27:17] a chance to talk. the board can make an exception with that if the sheets aren't

[27:22] out they can speak. Well,

[27:27] yeah. I I

[27:32] still love that house. And I've talked to Adam about what we're interested.

[27:37] We're purchasing the old antique mall from the Fishers, Bobby and Carla Fisher

[27:42] up on the hill. And my our initial thought was uh we were wanting to cuz I

[27:47] I built a subdivision back in 2020 2003 in Fredericktown condominiums and that

[27:56] was what my thought was initially on this property. But after reviewing the

[28:01] property and talking to some different real estate people in the area that

[28:05] really knows the market, we're we're we're going to shift and potentially

[28:09] build some houses first and then on the the open ground that's up there, not

[28:14] what the concrete is. And then if if we find that we get a lot of people as

[28:18] we're building these houses that want the senior houses, then we might bust up

[28:22] that concrete and put senior houses on the back side. That way they're more

[28:27] private. They're more cuz I think seniors would prefer to be more safer

[28:33] cuz whenever I built my subdivision down in Tretown, I put a road in and they

[28:37] were kind of a controlled entry point on that property up there with the road

[28:41] kind of around it. There's really not a whole lot of safety that maybe the

[28:45] seniors desire. So, but but if I say that in if I can't figure out what to do

[28:51] with the concrete, then I was going to have Bobby come in with his crushing

[28:54] machine and just bust it up. We'll use the rock for foundations, but we're

[29:00] going to kind of put that on hold for maybe while we're building these houses.

[29:03] So, the the type of houses that we're looking for East Missouri Action for the

[29:09] last uh uh since 2022, they got a grant to build houses and train and we've been

[29:16] [clears throat] building these kind of houses. This this is a little three

[29:19] bedroomedroom uh two bath house that we've been building and we're selling

[29:23] for like 170 over in the >> Okay. This is one of the type of houses

[29:31] that's got a cuz the property is going to really do well with a combination of

[29:37] of I like to kind of show you my the layout of the property that we're

[29:47] using. >> So the property is kind of this is kind

[29:50] of where the concrete slab starts and kind of wraps around and I said we might

[29:55] use that for senior housing. That way it's more private. And so we're going to

[29:59] build some houses down in this area that's got uh onecar garages that you

[30:04] can drive in from the street and come right into the house. And that'll be

[30:08] this type of a house. So it it'll be a cute little onecar garage with a front

[30:14] porch and other style of the house that we have. It it looks it's pretty much

[30:19] the same. It's just got a little bit of a different facade on it the front end,

[30:23] but they're still about the same house. are about 1,400 to,500.

[30:28] » Two bedroom three bedroom. >> Yeah, that'll be three bedroomedroom,

[30:31] two bath. And then and then these will have the garages. So, we're going to put

[30:35] those along the road down here. And then what in this other area, we're going to

[30:42] have an alley that kind of comes up off of the the road that goes up the hill.

[30:47] And then this is the concrete slab here. And there's going to be an alley through

[30:51] here that'll be a oneway alley. And we're going to build little uh three

[30:56] bedroomedroom, two bath houses. And we're going to offer a base model for a

[31:00] bath and a half. And they're going to have rear entry garages. So we're going

[31:04] to have detached rear entry garages. So they can come in the alley and come into

[31:08] the >> 50t lot straight across.

[31:11] » Yes. >> And then uh an alley for parking.

[31:13] » Yeah. Garbage pickup or whatever. >> Yeah. And the alley. Yeah. We're going

[31:17] to have the garbage coming alley. >> That leaves us a place to put water

[31:21] systems through and all that. That's what I was going to talk to you guys cuz

[31:24] I think the water line goes around the whole perimeter

[31:28] » there too >> and that's the thing we're going to be

[31:32] getting that information. We just got the contract signed

[31:36] » and we're going to be doing a an environmental assessment study on that

[31:40] property just to make sure there wasn't any cuz this being a leather factory at

[31:44] one time. We're little concern >> before we build homes for people to make

[31:50] sure there was nothing that would be a concern of building houses cuz that's

[31:54] the last thing we want to do is build houses on.

[31:58] » So we're going to be doing it. We are uh contracting with this company to do an

[32:02] environmental assessment. >> But Mr. River, let me ask you this.

[32:06] Where are the existing roads at on this? >> Right now, roads just basically go

[32:11] around >> on three sides.

[32:14] » Yeah. >> And on this side over here are already

[32:16] houses. >> Well, there's concrete. That's a big

[32:18] concrete. >> Then there's some Yeah, there's some

[32:21] houses. There's a house right here. >> Then that one lady owns like a big track

[32:25] of land here. lady in town that that four or five acres right there

[32:32] in that area here. So, so that's where we're

[32:36] wanting to build houses with garages over here. Houses with detached rear

[32:41] entry garages and then we're going to have parking and we're going to set the

[32:45] houses back up and have parking and we'd like to put sidewalks through that too.

[32:48] That would look nice. So, this particular lot here, you look like you

[32:51] got about 13 houses there. Yeah, we're going to put 13 houses cuz there's going

[32:56] to be two lots are going to be narrow because of the spacing. And then I got a

[33:00] three I got a twotory model that I I built. Also,

[33:06] this is the twotory model that's only 24 ft wide and it's got three bedrooms

[33:11] upstairs and it's got a flex room on the first floor. It could be a bedroom, too.

[33:17] So, this one be about 16. >> Yeah. paint. [cough]

[33:24] » This is the twobedroom model. We're only going to build three of those cuz the

[33:28] market for three bedrooms are pretty weak. But if people come in and they

[33:32] want 1,600 square ft, that's what we're going to offer.

[33:36] » We're going to try to start these out about 165 for the the detached garage

[33:42] model. Then the garage will be an option if they want a garage. Some people price

[33:47] point, >> but we're going to try to do a garage

[33:50] for around $15,000 for a one car garage and 20,000 for a twocar garage. They can

[33:56] either attach >> nice looking clean houses.

[34:00] » So on this uh top piece here, the 13 houses on this bottom square here, how

[34:04] many houses you think? Seven. >> About 20 houses. Yeah.

[34:09] » Um >> the uh I don't think the words generally

[34:14] have any issue at all the way that's laid out. It's just in the middle there,

[34:19] you know, in the middle there's just a main transit, emergency transit. But I

[34:25] talked to Michael and what they plan on when they go to this interconnect

[34:31] system, which I just spoke with him an hour ago. Um they're probably going to

[34:35] either disconnect or use it as it's emergency only.

[34:39] » But that's all it's for. It's encased. >> Yeah, it's actually encased in concrete

[34:45] and everything. So I mean even it's there and it's never it's forever, you

[34:50] know, it's just for contingency where it was.

[34:54] » So on this 50ft lot, 135 ft deep. Um that's pretty much like a city lot in

[34:59] St. Louis. >> Yeah. House

[35:01] and a subdivision. Yeah. that built in the 1920s and 30s.

[35:05] » I envision like people go out there and have walk up and down the road. So they

[35:10] they won't have any garages on the front. So all the garages are going to

[35:13] be when you kind of walk down here. They're all houses

[35:17] » and with nice little sidewalk it's more of a community feel. It is you

[35:24] pull into the garage and then you lock the door down and you're in your house.

[35:28] » Yeah. >> We're hoping this will be more of a

[35:31] community. mailboxes all along the road there.

[35:34] » Yeah, exactly. >> And are you thinking about having like a

[35:37] a model available to somebody to look at?

[35:40] » Yeah, cuz I say these are what I built over in Egypt for East Missouri and we

[35:44] uh we sold we sold them all the one we we're waiting on Amar to hook up our

[35:48] last ones. We're sold them. We're starting a couple more. We got the roof

[35:52] on a set trusses next week. So these are houses I built for Missouri action.

[35:58] » Yeah. That's what I'm hoping too to get them over here and maybe build some

[36:02] houses on some of these empty lots around. Yeah. I think there's an

[36:06] opportunity to really especially at that price point and I think people in St.

[36:11] Mary are looking for other places for their kids to still stay and be near

[36:14] their grandparents or you know parents and not have to move out of town in

[36:18] order to get married and have children or eager to retire.

[36:22] » So those are nice looking spots. And then we got this little 50ft buffer here

[36:27] for green space. That's maybe a dog. They can put a dog park out there.

[36:34] People want to have a dog. We'll have a little space there. They can do whatever

[36:38] they want. >> Yeah.

[36:39] » And for storm water

[36:45] be a lot of houses that don't have water shed right now. So that's why our

[36:50] engineer said be the spot for water to go and then so that could be the a

[36:55] little drainage area. >> So is there a name for this development

[37:00] yet? >> Not yet propos that yet?

[37:01] » No, not yet. We're our LLC. That's what's nice is I'm teaming up with a

[37:07] gentleman out of here. His name is Luis Talawantes and he him and his wife got a

[37:14] they've been flipping and rehabbing houses and they won the business of the

[37:18] year award this year in the paper down there. So they were nominated for the

[37:22] business of the year award. >> How do you spell that name?

[37:25] » To t a l e t a l a m a n t e and I think yeah's got a little bit of history,

[37:35] » but he's super nice guy. He's a veteran. He's in the military still. He's a

[37:39] senior master sergeant. He does like u like top secret kind of stuff with the

[37:45] military. He's in the he's in the reserve. So, I'm really excited about

[37:49] teaming up with him on this project cuz I built this will be my fifth

[37:53] subdivision I've built. This will be his first. So,

[37:57] » I'm kind of mentoring him and he's he's a super awesome Christian guy. He's just

[38:02] a really neat guy to kind of hook up with. I'm excited about teaming up with

[38:06] him and uh and then like I say, if this works well and we get a lot of lot of of

[38:13] desire, then I'm going to do something with that concrete. I haven't quite

[38:16] figured out yet. >> I think it'll be a good place for that

[38:20] senior community that I was thinking of. >> How long do you think the study will

[38:25] take and all of that? They said it takes about 3 weeks to get the study, the

[38:28] phase one study. And then they what they do, they make a recommendation based on

[38:32] the results of the phase one study cuz that's mainly going back in the history

[38:37] of the area to see if there was ever [clears throat]

[38:40] any kind of recorded event that ever happened on that property over time.

[38:45] » And I think they said that at one time that was a subdivision. back at the

[38:48] time. I think he said that years and years ago over there is like

[38:54] Prince Drive when they had the mobile homes. There was approximately 60

[38:59] connections. >> Do you remember at all before the

[39:02] leather factory? >> My grandma from there.

[39:05] » Yeah. A lot of us probably in town never knew

[39:09] before that period of time. Yeah. And I got actual I guess vinyl disc

[39:16] for like employees and let them know they're bringing out like every day they

[39:21] play to employees on photograph like hey good job and all that. I don't

[39:27] have to play on but it says Prince Gardener side one side two.

[39:34] So in theory we could add 40 more folks to our population here. A few people

[39:39] lived in town [laughter] and there were three there. There would be

[39:45] so that might add to >> families. That's what going to be a lot

[39:49] of families and the mayor and all of us have been

[39:53] working on city court for kids and stuff >> cuz like I was talking with Doug Ber

[39:59] today you know he said he's been working on I guess a park down here or

[40:04] something. >> Yeah. So

[40:06] » I spoke with Gerald the other day. >> Yeah, cuz I'm going to meet with him

[40:11] early part cuz I was trying to meet with him yesterday but he's kind of busy

[40:15] instead of the first part of the week cuz I want him do the actual design of

[40:19] subdivision. >> So So once you get that phase one done,

[40:23] that's you can build there. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[40:25] » And then after that you go through a design phase or the subdivision.

[40:28] » Well, we're going to go and start. >> Yeah, we're going to start waiting.

[40:34] Good start. This is going to be a pretty basic

[40:38] out. >> Yeah.

[40:39] » And won't be any twisting winding roads or

[40:43] crazy. >> And I was hoping that but Luis is with

[40:47] his family up in uh I mean up in Wisconsin. They left yesterday. He

[40:53] already had plans for his families cuz I think school starts next week.

[40:58] » We take his family. He's got three boys and a little girl. So it's nice little

[41:02] family. What is your estimated time to start?

[41:07] » We'd like to have a couple under under roof for winter kind of work. So, we're

[41:11] hoping to build about five or six maybe. If they sell, we can build here. I got

[41:18] 10 of these years. Well, they can build this in a couple of years.

[41:22] » Yeah. If they all start selling and you know, we can

[41:28] year cuz I was building my condos. I built 19 condos in the 2 and 1/2 years

[41:35] condos. >> So when you do those and you lay them

[41:37] out and the lots are finished, will they have sidewalks for the house?

[41:42] » Yeah, that's what I was doing in my condos. I was I trying to get grass grow

[41:48] and these yards aren't going to be real big, right?

[41:50] » So you can saw them as you can try to seed straw. It doesn't seem to work cuz

[41:57] Yeah. I I seed and straw the first building down there when I started my

[42:00] condos and then I it didn't work. So I went down adance.

[42:06] » So how do you see yourself marketing these realtors? Luis has got some pretty

[42:11] good real estate connections in Perryville and I've to I've built over

[42:19] probably 12 130 houses and I've only sold probably five or six real estate

[42:24] agents. I'm pretty good at talking to people

[42:28] » and I'm going to be moving in a a model of it's called a park. I want to use it

[42:33] as my office and play and kind of a place to show people and Lisa's wife is

[42:39] really good at like home decorating and interior decorating that stuff. So,

[42:43] we're hoping maybe she'll work with a lot of our customers to kind of design

[42:47] pick out. I think it's a great idea, you know,

[42:53] um, kind of just what we need. We're always talking about the fact that we

[42:56] don't have much land to develop on, >> but to take a piece of land like that

[43:00] and develop into a community houses and not so so much another factory or

[43:04] something, bring more people into town, it's a great idea. I think the market is

[43:10] really strong because you got a strategic location. I mean, we can even

[43:14] draw from potentially Chester. People want to get out of

[43:19] » Yeah, we can even draw. We're going to market over in Chester, too. So, yeah,

[43:24] we're going to I think the opportunity cuz, you know, cuz that's what McBride

[43:28] is doing an open house thing next week. [snorts] Next Wednesday. Yeah, next

[43:33] Wednesday they're going to do a meet the community thing at the YMCA in St. Jen.

[43:38] So, I was going to just go there and just kind of see see them and cuz then I

[43:43] think they're looking for contractors on Thursday. So, they said they're going to

[43:47] try to hire a lot of local contractors. So, I hope they don't. But Lu has got

[43:51] some guys that he's got next. >> There's a really good journ and

[43:55] construction people here in all fields I think and too there's a subdivision

[44:01] that's going in behind Buckeyes. Not to change the subject or anything, but have

[44:05] you been back to see that? Is it those condos or two places?

[44:09] » Yeah. They look like houses like houses, but they're new places.

[44:13] » Yeah. And that's why I thought there were any any condos in St. cuz he

[44:22] said he's never really cuz condos take suspect. You got once you build them,

[44:26] you got to have them surveyed from the walls in cuz that's how condos are sold

[44:29] from the walls in. And he said there's not many condos in. Well, we don't have

[44:34] condos, but we have the retirement community that are duplexes and

[44:38] » they're not sold. >> They're not sold capital. We do have

[44:40] that kind of shared >> Yeah. shared living space. Yeah.

[44:44] » Yeah. Cuz when you when you build and sell condos is quite a bit involved. You

[44:48] got to set up your uh your HOA and you got to all the the buildings are owned

[44:54] by everybody. So, it's like a it's so it's a little challenging to get a an

[44:59] HOA cuz that's what I did down in Frederick Town when I built my

[45:02] subdivision. It it took a little while and and we in the city of Fredericktown

[45:07] never had anything before. So, we kind of worked with Perryville to kind of

[45:11] model some of their ordinances and stuff like that. So, so yeah, this so that's

[45:16] why I thought we're going to build the houses first and then we're going to see

[45:20] if there is a market for [clears throat] the senior condos like I did project.

[45:23] We're going to kind of test that. Yeah. >> And if there is, then we're going to

[45:26] kind of open it up to the other section of the property.

[45:29] » And we want to view your place over there in town. Where's that located?

[45:32] » It's over, you know, where have you been?

[45:34] » Oh, okay. You know where Captain America is at out on 72 as you're heading out of

[45:39] town. Right down from uh right down from Captain America.

[45:44] » Coming back to where it was. [snorts] >> Uh well, let me see. on 72 Came America

[45:49] there down the hill from there is uh my it's called Madison Meadows. It's kind

[45:55] of going into to >> uh it's kind of it's it's h it's on the

[46:04] very edge of the city but that's where it's at. It's kind of ironic Z out of

[46:09] Frederick Town which is Zos and uh but yes so if you if you're

[46:16] coming into Frederick Town you got Cap America then you got the the Lego Middle

[46:20] School or something then you get the high school but if you turn right there

[46:24] on Cap America Drive and kind of go down the hill to Highway Z my community is

[46:29] right there on that right side. >> It's called Madison.

[46:33] » Can you see it from 72? No, it's cut it down.

[46:37] » I go through there a lot. So, I'll check it out.

[46:39] » Yeah. >> Yeah. If you turn right there by Captain

[46:40] America

[46:58] at the very end of the culdeac, I built single house for them because they

[47:02] didn't want to do something. And when I did that, I started everybody wanted

[47:06] houses, but it's still kind of an ownership style where the grass mode,

[47:11] you know, and the the buildings are all maintained by the association. We only

[47:15] own from the drywall on onership.

[47:21] So that's where >> Can we look at these pictures a little

[47:25] closer? You guys have >> Steve, would you want to come back and

[47:30] like give a presentation with me and we can kind of coordinate

[47:35] with everything when you're more >> drafted and everything.

[47:40] » Yeah, that's what I think will have a pot.

[47:43] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[47:46] People from the town see it >> cuz he was out yesterday. That's what

[47:49] I'm talking about.

[47:53] Everything.

[47:58] surveys for me and I know he's super nice

[48:04] as far as that's the thing I guess the water

[48:16] I guess another meeting

[48:20] » that's in the next couple weeks I like the time

[48:22] » yeah and and then the that the engineers are an engineering guy.

[48:27] » They'll be coming up here soon. >> I'd like to meet with them too cuz they

[48:31] might help me figure out where to connection.

[48:34] » Yeah. And they can help you with that cuz they've already gone in.

[48:38] » That would be awesome. That was one of the big. So now my question just off the

[48:43] top as far as getting building, how do you how do you guys work as far?

[48:49] » We do the permit builds on new construction based on that. They go down

[48:53] how much value that everything and then the right away if you got to move the

[48:58] line right that's all it is >> there it's not real hard

[49:04] yeah cuz that's for like letington rebuilding letington

[49:08] » yes >> uh we had to get a permit

[49:11] but it was that it's like they don't do permit inspections or anything so we had

[49:16] to you guys don't have inspection >> oh you do

[49:20] » oh that is awesome because in length they don't you We had to pay $800 for

[49:25] every house that rebuilding money to have a third party inspector. 18 was an

[49:31] inspector. So you guys actually do awesome.

[49:35] » Yeah, because that was because we're used to like Arlington St.

[49:39] » Bigger City. They have >> Yeah. They have their own inspectors. So

[49:42] that way when you go get a USDA loan, it's been inspected by the municipality.

[49:48] So that's what we figured. That's what we found. We're not going to build a

[49:51] lage anymore for this. And this guy was trying to make us uh stick the Kansas

[49:55] City building code, which is like crazy. It's like he was making us do all kinds

[50:00] of crazy crap that had no sense. And I I've been building in Farmington

[50:06] and Park Hills and Pont. I never in Farmington. I never had to do some of

[50:11] the crazy stuff this guy was making throughout.

[50:17] » Okay. I'm glad you guys a little bit more, but I mean we got checklist.

[50:22] » That was a huge issue that I was thinking

[50:26] to hire a third party inspector in all these houses. That's going to suck.

[50:32] » Yeah. No, that that'll make we >> Yeah.

[50:36] » And these are all going to be on crawl spaces unless unless somebody really

[50:40] wants a basement cuz basements are they're expensive. It kind of kicks

[50:46] us out of that affordability when you have to put $35,000 inside these things.

[50:51] » Yeah. >> So, so we're trying to build these

[50:54] affordable. Affordability is what's important to us. Making sure people can

[50:59] afford these houses. >> Exactly.

[51:01] » Well, every time you $800 here, $800 there.

[51:06] » Yeah. Yeah. That inspection thing was >> We do a occupancy permit right after

[51:11] it's built in, make sure everything's safe.

[51:13] » Yeah. Cuz that's easy. the the concrete you want, you know, we you guys do the

[51:17] concrete inspections and then you do what they call the over ball. They come

[51:20] in and check the wiring as to do construction inspection and

[51:26] gas. >> Okay, awesome. That that that I'm glad

[51:31] you guys have that >> and Steve could come in at the city at a

[51:34] better time for knowledgeable people like and our city workers, you know. So

[51:42] it's a experienced team of people who do awesome.

[51:46] » Yeah, because when I built my time was the guy's name was Tim Morgan. He was

[51:49] the city administrator at that time and uh they they not really built the

[51:54] subdivision. There was a subdivision called time capsule out on the highway

[51:59] as you're leaving town. That was built about 15 years. That was the last

[52:02] subdivision built in town. So there was nobody there.

[52:07] We all kind of figured it out. But yeah, but I'm glad that this is

[52:13] going to be a lot easier. >> That's awesome. That's great.

[52:22] » With everybody once will be there, you know, my business

[52:26] partner will be back from their last vacation before school starts next. So

[52:33] » So yeah. And if anybody's got any questions, call me.

[52:39] » What is your number, Steve? That's 573 747

[52:44] 998.

[52:48] » You say you'd like to try to start getting signed by

[52:53] a couple to show people what look like by by probably end of November. you

[52:58] know, at least get them under

[53:03] that's basically

[53:08] results of that assessment test.

[53:16] » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I say, they've been really good for East Missouri about

[53:20] as soon as we get them built, they're sold. So,

[53:22] » yeah. This here, we're just waiting on AM to pick the electric up. We got a

[53:27] temporary wire going one in there for kind of light it up and show people. But

[53:31] am we've been waiting on them for two weeks, three weeks, four weeks maybe.

[53:35] And I think they're the citizen. It's easier to work with those guys.

[53:40] » Yeah. Business locals. >> Yeah. I know when I build my house, I

[53:46] called them up and they were out like a week and a half putting a pole in and

[53:49] putting temporary power so we could build. I think citizen and I was used to

[53:55] like down in Frederick town city electric's got city electric

[54:01] is >> a challenge sometimes they're

[54:04] challenging kind of sto we put this house on the

[54:09] market yesterday for 169 on the market yesterday

[54:14] » that's kind of your range 170 >> yeah

[54:19] like I said it doesn't have a garage with this property We couldn't put a

[54:23] garage cuz it didn't have enough space. So on these lots that we're building

[54:27] here, we're going to have they want a garage. They want a garage.

[54:31] We're hoping people garage

[54:37] if we can. Yeah, we got to move on. We got I'm not trying to get you. Let's

[54:42] schedule a time where we can get all that just and everything and then kind

[54:46] of you guys can do your questionire and then we'll just work from there and

[54:51] see too be back.

[54:57] Yeah, it is. >> All right.

[55:01] » See, so you don't have to hang around. You can if you like.

[55:04] » Yeah, you're not required.

[55:08] But um yeah, I appreciate you coming in. Nice seeing you again.

[55:12] » Yeah, you guys, too. Good luck. I hang out from time to time.

[55:21] » And one of the things that I'm thinking about too are maybe part of that

[55:24] concrete maybe putting a little like a little store like a little coffee shop,

[55:30] a little something. That's that's something I'd really like to do. Maybe

[55:33] take some of that concrete and put especially if I decide to go see this.

[55:36] I'd like to put like something like a song with the

[55:39] » old

[55:45] coffee idea is a good >> We have church Mondays and Fridays

[55:49] coffee with the old man. >> Yes. See that?

[55:52] » Yeah, cuz that's what we're trying to figure out what would be a good little

[55:55] maybe a little another restaurant. Vers and there was a lady you were telling me

[56:00] that maybe you might want to open up another restaurant there for years. I

[56:06] did an article when she retired. I think she'd been here for 70 years.

[56:11] » I'd like to see us do a taco stand, but you know that's just me.

[56:16] pretty rude. We can get food trucks to come down. Maybe we'll have a food truck

[56:20] day once we get this going. Maybe it'll be a little food truck spot there for

[56:26] until I decide what to do. That would be a great spot truck little maybe three or

[56:31] four food trucks come down and offer some food.

[56:37] that there might be a good business to come down one day a week instead of cuz

[56:42] they do that at Farm Park Farmington at the the Methodist church. They have a

[56:44] food truck every Friday something like that. There's like 20 food trucks out

[56:50] there. Everybody works there. So that's a good way to start.

[56:55] » Yeah. We have a couple food trucks come down from up there and good for my

[57:01] community. That's true.

[57:05] » Thank you very much. Thank you. >> All right, Brownie. I'm sorry.

[57:11] » On him. I didn't know he was coming, but he's a great guy.

[57:14] » Good deal. I see that coming in. >> The only issue I got ain't going to take

[57:19] long. One question I got is uh who who's takes care of the city artist? who takes

[57:27] you. I mean, you guys, how do you not take care of I can write a warning and

[57:33] everything and tell them, you know, first statue, but the way the laws have

[57:37] changed, code enforcement is nothing. I mean,

[57:41] » so we ain't got no code enforcement actually

[57:46] enforcer, but I mean, we have those ordinance prior to that to say if you

[57:50] don't do this and we clean it up, >> you know, or mess or things like that,

[57:54] then you're liable. the law statute wise we can't force you know DPS laws like

[58:01] murder or anything like that you know what I'm saying so there's just a fine

[58:05] line cuz there's >> there was an article years ago about

[58:08] that and there was a threshold gray area and somebody shot somebody and it just a

[58:14] nightmare so >> this had nothing to do

[58:17] » providing some city artists that need to be taken care of the

[58:20] » first issue is is that the he's putting this junkyard here within 50 ft from the

[58:27] city hall here. >> I just don't know how the bride build

[58:31] here owns that got all these >> cats coming in junk coming in you know

[58:37] it looks like a junky that's moving in >> they know how to I don't know how you're

[58:41] going to force that if I know a lot of city artists they can put up a 12t

[58:46] privacy fence to cover all their junk or they

[58:50] » have it moved at their expense. And it should be well I told him well he had a

[58:56] survey he lost 20 ft of his building. So there was another issue office take 10

[59:02] off that he lost that and him and Ronnie got into it over there where parking

[59:10] looks like a junkyard. I mean it does >> makes the city hall look

[59:13] » I don't Is he even a business like a machine shop or anything? I don't

[59:18] » I see just junk store over there. We got trusses over there, old bulldozers,

[59:24] uh, cab of pickups, cab of truck beds, equipment. I mean,

[59:29] » yeah, I know he's not the only one. I mean, even across from you,

[59:32] » right? On the issue here. >> No. Yeah, there's many issues like that.

[59:38] There's a you got to petition the court and it's got to go up to OSCA and all

[59:45] that and see if you can enforce certain things with code enforcement that law

[59:51] enforcement can or the prosecutor can prosecute on.

[59:54] » Does that make sense? >> I'm sure he's got permits on all their

[59:57] vehicles and tags and all that too. You know, I'm sure he's

[1:00:01] » I don't know. Well, I know it was one of them's I haven't been over there to

[1:00:04] look, but I've been pulled 20 ways from Sunday.

[1:00:08] » I don't I keep up with >> So, I hardly see him. I see him when the

[1:00:13] time I get back. He's jetted or he's hiding in that building. So,

[1:00:18] » Right. Right. Yeah. >> Nobody take his junk out of there. Well,

[1:00:23] I don't even talking to him just not very personable

[1:00:30] evening or DS. He's not at all cuz I don't know what his I can't remember his

[1:00:36] name, but he'll come to me later, but I can look it up on property.

[1:00:40] » That's what I want to do is address the board with it.

[1:00:43] » Yeah, that's fine. >> You know, if you guys can send them a

[1:00:45] letter, maybe state paint it up, move it, or

[1:00:49] » there's been complaints about it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Looks bad. looks bad for the

[1:00:52] shoot. I mean, there's a lot of places that need to be cleaned up. I understand

[1:00:56] complaint is a good work with concerns about bring

[1:01:00] it's unprofessional. I mean, it's unacceptable.

[1:01:02] » It's a complaint. I mean, it's a viable complaint. It's a citizen right file

[1:01:08] complaint. It's like a victim has a right to file a complaint. So,

[1:01:13] complaints not a bad word. >> I mean, it's it's a concern. And yeah, I

[1:01:18] see both. >> Yeah. Yeah. just the city. Okay.

[1:01:21] » I think the uh thing is we can do that. We can say that we had

[1:01:27] not not the citizen of the of the city complaints about that

[1:01:32] cleaned up. >> You know, we're trying to city here turn

[1:01:36] into a junkyard notice of town. A lot of these people are bringing in these old

[1:01:41] cars and junk and they're parking them out in the streets and park them on the

[1:01:45] roads. I mean I I mean I drive by every day and I see citations can be written

[1:01:50] every day or at least warranty tell move the vehicle send

[1:01:55] » we don't have the income either for even part time nowadays nobody's going to

[1:01:59] chase that money they chase the money you know that

[1:02:02] » oh yeah >> and there was an organization that quit

[1:02:05] doing donations I'm not even going to name so I'm not going to get into that

[1:02:09] so that put a dent in that help too so but so we had to go a different route So

[1:02:15] » we got city ordinances that covers it. We enforce the city ordinance. We can

[1:02:20] cover it. >> As long you have to have the peace

[1:02:22] officer license of them because they're state laws or they're

[1:02:27] » Yeah, I understand that. You know, the city doesn't need a

[1:02:31] fulltime peace officer. I understand that.

[1:02:32] » No, >> we need to go back like the old days,

[1:02:35] get back to where we've got our own city marshal

[1:02:39] forcing forcing the city ordinance not to go running bad guys down the street.

[1:02:43] Well, then you get charged with failure to act. That's the rule. Such

[1:02:47] that that's state statute because the marshals is why there's no marshalss

[1:02:49] anymore constables because they weren't doing their damn job and that's what

[1:02:53] happened. >> Okay. City enforcement. City.

[1:02:56] » They have code enforcement. That's what it's called. I'm just saying because

[1:02:59] it's changed over years. It's evolved. >> We all everything evolved over time.

[1:03:05] » Well, we don't need a chief of police or no deputy working in town here.

[1:03:09] » I mean, being spent for nothing. Well, you know how it was.

[1:03:13] » Well, I got rid of bills. I'm not even going to go into that cuz my lawyer can

[1:03:17] speak on that point, but I'm not even going to get into that mess. So, go

[1:03:22] ahead, Mr. We had several complaints. I know

[1:03:27] several complaints about we can look at the ordinance.

[1:03:33] We can direct the mayor say it. We can draft up an orance and present it

[1:03:41] to that person asking for relief. >> That's all we have to do.

[1:03:56] » Let me finish this. No one's

[1:04:00] » there. No sense in us getting in a tizzy over that

[1:04:05] » without talking about all of us. >> We got to make sure we get it right.

[1:04:12] You remember right? So it's presented correctly so we can get the person to do

[1:04:19] what three of you have already suggested. Maybe it may be and we might

[1:04:27] have to do a little work with you.

[1:04:32] » Yeah, I got a problem. I see that >> there's so many

[1:04:39] I wanted to just

[1:04:45] say >> there's a lot of things we could

[1:04:48] complain about in this town. Like a bubble home that's down there on

[1:04:51] Cemetery Road and stuff. There's just so many of those things that he's talking

[1:04:54] about drafting a a ordinance, but we do have specific ordinances about high

[1:04:58] grass or whatever it is. But maybe we should have an ordinance that addresses

[1:05:02] these really later issues of some real big abuse. Uh and and complaints about

[1:05:08] this type of stuff, you know? I mean, there's several things that we could

[1:05:12] address with one ordinance. You know what I mean? Yeah, more detail about

[1:05:20] bring it up to speed up a new ordinance that says okay guys

[1:05:26] ordinance 939 is petty offenses. So petty offenses are like grass

[1:05:30] infractions. So that'd be your ordinances. So that's been consolidated

[1:05:34] already. So your foundation set >> right there. It's just how to go about

[1:05:39] it with state legislator and the red tape so you don't violate it. Nobody

[1:05:44] violates it. nobody gets in trouble because that's the last thing anybody

[1:05:47] wants is fined or taking upon themselves to be wired around here because that's

[1:05:53] the problem most have that's what they have and I mean and if you turn the

[1:05:57] other way as a cop get charged now failure act is a crime you know and it's

[1:06:03] it's just that's a society we live in stigma and it sucks it really does you

[1:06:07] know that I mean I wish there was a marshall I wish they kept that

[1:06:11] » I think we know the truth >> you They said these reinforcement cities

[1:06:16] they're just letting them come in and throw junk vehicles all around bringing

[1:06:21] in those weeds growing up past the mill

[1:06:26] line just growing up running through the roadways. That's the second issue I got

[1:06:31] the second

[1:06:35] I talked about talked to you about here about four or five months ago

[1:06:39] » about a driveway there at Rustler's driveway. Well, it's all growing up with

[1:06:42] trees and weeds. And it's running down. Well, the ditch is not catching it. It's

[1:06:47] coming out on the road. It's washing down the road, washing out Ed's driveway

[1:06:52] and washing over and d and it's washing out my ditch line to my driveway. It's

[1:06:57] not going through the ditch. It's going around it and worsening it out.

[1:07:01] » Matter of fact, it's eating underneath the road. I just took a picture just to

[1:07:04] show you. You got it. I can

[1:07:10] » see we can get that state representative involving in there too

[1:07:15] and it's running around the edge of the road.

[1:07:32] We need

[1:07:37] I understand

[1:07:44] there is a state

[1:08:03] something like

[1:08:13] They pay taxes

[1:08:17] on their own. >> That's new.

[1:08:22] Joker did so across from here as a hub cuz when

[1:08:29] D found a hub or AT&T I think the talk was caught because it passed over the

[1:08:35] gold copper the phone lines >> under there supposed to be ripping our

[1:08:40] discont

[1:08:46] there's a triangle when they mark that it's a high risk there two foot there's

[1:08:51] one at three and a half. You were taking that.

[1:08:54] » So, it was such a high risk that I was going to have to keep going down that

[1:08:58] hill. >> That would be the place to go, but it's

[1:09:00] running off that hill, running straight down the road, missing the dig line all

[1:09:04] together. >> So, missing this old gate.

[1:09:06] » Yeah, that ain't even got up to it. They got

[1:09:10] it cut off right there at the end of the road.

[1:09:12] » So, it's all running out. >> Okay. This outlet,

[1:09:19] » huh? Let me check and see if still there.

[1:09:23] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[1:09:33] » Without

[1:09:37] clear trees back out where they grown up. They grown out about that big and

[1:09:41] they grew up. They just clear the trees all the way and put rock coming down

[1:09:45] that hill there. >> Take care of the issue, you know. You

[1:09:48] talking about Bruce was right here. That spruce tree split

[1:09:51] » right there at the spruce and there's Russell's driveway.

[1:09:54] » Yeah. >> Well, doc had a tree just to fall down

[1:09:57] and knock that power line that runs across there and knock it down and rust

[1:10:00] the driveway. So, he took the logs and wood and just shoved it off the ditch

[1:10:04] here. So, I choked up the ditch even more.

[1:10:07] » Oh, this there's a ditch in here, >> right? That's a ditch down

[1:10:11] for years. If I go clean that up with my activator and all that and redish and

[1:10:17] grub that wouldn't drain better. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. That's what that's all

[1:10:20] I'm just

[1:10:24] » It ain't going in the ditch. It's going down the road behind that burn it and

[1:10:29] turn it >> right.

[1:10:30] » Would that work right there? >> It may work, may not. We don't know.

[1:10:35] Just slow it down. Right. It's going to help a lot.

[1:10:39] » Let me call Dra and see what's under there before I start because I know up

[1:10:43] above there's a podium and >> that ditch that I'm show you. It's

[1:10:47] already going underneath the >> Yeah, it is under warranty. You're

[1:10:53] talking about over. >> Yeah, heard my driveway.

[1:10:56] » Oh, yeah. I'm sorry.

[1:11:01] » Your phone's on different mine.

[1:11:07] right there. See you. >> Okay.

[1:11:09] » You can see where it's going. It's coming in behind my driveway.

[1:11:14] » It's hit what it's doing over and hit those driveway

[1:11:19] out. It's coming across the road. Coming in. You see where it's eating underneath

[1:11:23] the >> Yeah. There.

[1:11:24] » But don't get take care. It's going to keep

[1:11:26] » underneath the road. So, I have a look at that cuz I can see the alligator in

[1:11:32] the patch. Is that a patch or is that just the sun right there?

[1:11:35] » Yeah, that's just sun right there. >> Does alligator stop there? Alligator?

[1:11:39] » No, that's an old shirt on. He used to come through there going up to Ry's.

[1:11:43] » Oh, okay. >> Is that Ry's old truck on top of it or

[1:11:47] your >> That's Ry's.

[1:11:49] » Randy still has all that. >> I didn't know he could be. That's a good

[1:11:53] truck. >> Yeah, it is. That's good. I know it's

[1:11:56] it's it's an eye story right now, but it could be revenge money cuz

[1:12:02] he's got another one. >> Let me see.

[1:12:06] » Let me see if I can get

[1:12:16] » appreciate that. Thank you guys. I mean, as long as we work together

[1:12:21] instead of against each other, it really does.

[1:12:24] It's all we asked for. You know, >> something we're never going to

[1:12:28] accomplish. Some we never do. >> You have you have an issue with it. You

[1:12:32] just bring it to us and try to work through it.

[1:12:37] » So, but I always stepped a little toes and I don't want to be in trouble.

[1:12:40] » Sometimes it may not work. If you do it, it may not work. You never know. I mean

[1:12:44] there's times you it's >> and that where that collet is we're

[1:12:48] going to need some more rock put in there that cover where they put in that

[1:12:53] cover that they read this asphalt. >> It's going to need more rock in that

[1:12:57] ditch line. It's all sunk in that telephone is still around.

[1:13:02] » They they owe us 32. So I'm guess

[1:13:09] that what it is to four. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[1:13:12] cuz I know you work at the

[1:13:20] » Okay. >> Okay. Thanks a lot.

[1:13:23] » See you guys. >> See you. Have a safe night.

[1:13:26] » Have a good one, guys. >> See you.

[1:13:43] reaction. Are you just here?

[1:13:48] » I don't know if you want to try

[1:13:53] » finish business.

[1:14:06] » Oh, I'm sorry. You want this? talking about update

[1:14:11] city. >> Yes.

[1:14:17] » We talked about changing to another one that focus more on clerical and

[1:14:23] office management and uh we did that and I think I let everybody know that we we

[1:14:29] contacted express employment. I talked with their employees plus a regional

[1:14:33] manager. uh the manager uh listened to what we had to say as far as the skills

[1:14:39] to utilize you for the position. And then we had made number one being

[1:14:44] QuickBooks. Although we know a lot of different offices run different ways, we

[1:14:47] want somebody with experience in the QuickBook area. But we went over

[1:14:50] accounts payable and receivable and positions required uh to familiarize

[1:14:54] them with sunshine laws and regulations and budgeting and banking. I we really

[1:14:59] went through the details with them over the phone before sending them the uh our

[1:15:04] our approved list of qualifications and they ran those numbers and uh got back

[1:15:10] with us and they have two candidates that they feel that they're ready to

[1:15:14] send here uh for us to interview. Uh the difference between uh express employment

[1:15:20] uh and our previous employer is the search person search company is that um

[1:15:27] they don't place anybody full-time more than 90 days. That person's placed

[1:15:32] receive us a fit. They're temporary. That 90 after the 90 days is over with.

[1:15:36] If we feel like we want to offer them a position after the 90 days, we're able

[1:15:39] to do that. Otherwise, they will take that person out and put someone else in.

[1:15:43] But still we have the interview process ahead of that. So we can choose that

[1:15:48] person and uh so uh and also what's different with this agency is there's no

[1:15:55] upfront deposit like we had before which was quite extensive amount of big amount

[1:16:00] of money and regardless if we hired them or not um if they failed in their duties

[1:16:06] or we had to replace them we had to pay another fee you know to get uh other

[1:16:10] employees. this you kind of pay as you go, but in the end the fee can be as

[1:16:14] high as our last employment agency. I sent out to everybody on uh their emails

[1:16:22] um and if you haven't received I'll send it again cuz I understand some people

[1:16:25] didn't get it. Um what they had to what they had to say about it. Um but

[1:16:34] the child care is 90 days temporary positions but the people are qualified

[1:16:39] uh office managers uh you know clerical managers and they have uh you know clerk

[1:16:46] experiences or qualifications but this is the last um I told them that I would

[1:16:50] be meeting with the board tonight and that I would uh bring this back to

[1:16:54] everyone's attention and they sent me this message real quick see if I here Uh

[1:17:00] I asked them to put in a nutshell what it is exactly that they do and they said

[1:17:04] uh they want to follow up with us with condensed uh information provided that

[1:17:09] express employment professionals provides temporary evaluation

[1:17:17] hire and direct hire staffing solutions for professional administrative and

[1:17:22] commercial positions. We uh connect businesses with qualified candidates,

[1:17:26] helping reduce hiring times, over uh turnover, and staffing cost while

[1:17:31] meeting their work force needs. So, what they're saying is that they're handling

[1:17:36] all the pre-in handling all the pre-qualifications like before, but

[1:17:39] we've set it up through the mirror for the like we did last time interview

[1:17:42] process. The board of course would do the interviewing like we did last time,

[1:17:46] which was pretty successful, and uh we would pick that candidate. Whatever we

[1:17:50] pay the candidate uh is up to us. Uh but they will add a fee on top of that

[1:17:57] hourly wage. So this is just an example. You know, if we paid somebody $10 an

[1:18:01] hour, they may charge us $15 an hour to have that employee for the 90 days.

[1:18:06] After the 90 days, we can offer that same amount of money we're paying them

[1:18:10] or set them into a a salary that suits our budget. And uh but it does give us

[1:18:16] an opportunity to see the fit. >> Yeah, it does.

[1:18:19] So, but anytime we're working with these people, I got to tell you, is expensive.

[1:18:23] And the mayor set aside money in the last last time we talked about I don't

[1:18:28] know if we still have that money or not for the we didn't ever spend it uh uh

[1:18:34] for the last uh organization we worked through, but uh

[1:18:39] if we still have that type of funding, we can move with this. But I would like

[1:18:44] for them to come in and talk with us u in a more finite way about how we get

[1:18:48] our arms around um the cost involved. You know, because I don't think I'm

[1:18:54] qualified, you know, I could pass along what they tell me, but I think it might

[1:18:57] be better for us to talk directly to a regional person with express before we

[1:19:02] get into a contract that we may not understand.

[1:19:04] » Yeah. >> And when I read their contract, it's

[1:19:07] mindbggling, you know. And uh so I told him, I said, "Look, I

[1:19:12] don't want to take that contract to the board. I want you to summarize what what

[1:19:15] you're doing." She said, "Well, basically, we're a placement agency.

[1:19:18] We're going to find someone that qualifies to your standards. We're going

[1:19:21] to do the process and we're going to send them to you, let you pick them out.

[1:19:24] We're going to let you hire them on a temporary basis for 90 days, and we're

[1:19:27] going to charge you x amount more than what you're paying them an hour to have

[1:19:32] them for 90 days. Sounds pretty fair, but uh but that remains to be seen. you

[1:19:38] know, if we can afford it. I mean, if we're paying somebody uh $20 an hour and

[1:19:42] their fee is to put $10 more dollars on that, that's $30 an hour and next thing

[1:19:46] you know, we're spending almost $300 a day for a 10-hour employee. You know,

[1:19:52] » employees at >> Exactly. So, um

[1:19:55] » two and a half. >> So, here's what I'd like to see us do,

[1:19:58] if y'all don't mind. I'd like to send out that contract again to all of you

[1:20:02] guys, let you read the detail involved and if you have any questions about

[1:20:07] that, you can call them directly or you can address that question to me and let

[1:20:11] me be the one to funnels the question to them. They'll be your contact for them

[1:20:14] and I'll get back and answer each one of your questions [snorts] and I'll send

[1:20:18] that out to you tonight. >> All right, that's it from me, Mr. Mayor.

[1:20:23] » All right. That would be very >> Does anybody have any questions?

[1:20:30] » I just think it'd be nice he started this process. He has a really good feel

[1:20:35] on it. Let him continue. We have questions with Senator Bryant and let

[1:20:40] him hold the questions. >> Yeah,

[1:20:44] » it's extensive. I read it and it's it's pretty

[1:20:49] » and it keeps you moving stuff. All right. So, we good on that? So, all

[1:20:56] right. Second B, status on the park project and location and setting up a

[1:21:02] meeting with the other vendor and options.

[1:21:06] Doc, you're kind of involved in that logistics.

[1:21:10] » Uh, can you hear me? >> Yeah, I can hear you.

[1:21:13] » Yep. >> All right. So, I've had uh I mean I had

[1:21:18] a brief discussion with Brian over the prior at the beginning of the weekend

[1:21:23] about uh coming in and selecting some more equipment and I I had a secondary

[1:21:28] meeting with um Melvin regarding the same issues [clears throat] we are the

[1:21:37] site location is selected it's on the wall at port uh roughly and the uh city

[1:21:46] plats are underneath there from St. John that uh give the specific location with

[1:21:52] the [clears throat] property locations. Uh and to summarize

[1:22:00] uh there's three issues. One of them, well kind of there's probably more, but

[1:22:06] one of them is uh I took down with uh Eric and

[1:22:14] uh Charlie and Frankie. The um uh former playground and it's now located

[1:22:24] uh the roof section was in the driveway in front of city hall that needs a

[1:22:28] little work done on it. the metal components, the smaller ones are in the

[1:22:33] the uh water former water treatment plant next to city hall. And then

[1:22:38] there's some uh items parked on Third Street. Uh so we're all down. Everything

[1:22:46] got disassembled nicely without hard with hardly any damage. The next steps

[1:22:52] on that is to clean it and paint it uh so that it's ready to install. Then uh

[1:22:59] while that's going on, then the site prep needs to be done down in that field

[1:23:05] to stake it uh with the transit, you know, to locate some stuff to locate

[1:23:11] things. Well, we're going to have a playground with one swing set is what we

[1:23:16] got. Had two toddler seats on it. We're going to need to purchase another their

[1:23:21] swing set and one of those coil spring things that wiggles back and forth with

[1:23:25] my kids cuz they like that so much. And we're going to have a smalls size soccer

[1:23:30] field because that requires minimal outlays other than goalposts

[1:23:36] uh so that uh kids can practice there. It won't be full size for adults, but

[1:23:42] for kids it'll be just fine. And other municipalities maybe come out and

[1:23:47] utilize it because people are always looking for fields. We know in Pigville

[1:23:52] they have a monster soccer field there and it's heavily utilized. We're not

[1:23:56] going to have that in our fair city, but we'll have something to use that'll uh

[1:24:02] mesh with some of the other things. >> Then, uh the park district in Arnold

[1:24:07] also gave us a couple park benches. So, uh, the intention is to we'll have a

[1:24:14] small parking space next to the gravel road off of Highway 61 and we'll put

[1:24:20] some benches there and do some tree plantings

[1:24:24] coming up in the fall next month, two months. We have some

[1:24:30] larger cypus trees now that Adam has that heavier equipment that can be dug

[1:24:35] out and transplanted in a couple spots just to give quick shade. And then on

[1:24:40] the other area off of Fourth Street, there'll be another entry that'll be a

[1:24:44] walk-in off of Fourth Street. It's slightly sloped to ready. And I've

[1:24:49] spoken with Adam about uh building that up a little bit more. So, it's a gradual

[1:24:54] slope and it can be accessed easily for equipment to come in and mow. And I have

[1:24:59] some uh Lombardi poppplers,

[1:25:04] which are tall, skinny, very fast growing trees. that uh we'll bracket

[1:25:11] that entry, you know, like two archways so that uh that you'll know where it is

[1:25:18] and you know, it'll just be like three small trees on each side uh to frame it

[1:25:24] a little bit. And uh and then the uh Arnold's people gave us a book with uh

[1:25:32] another vendor who they've worked with. prices are probably going to be in the

[1:25:37] same ballpark, but we can we need to get with them as well because

[1:25:43] I think they're more local or in Chesterfield. Uh and uh and then kind of

[1:25:48] button things up to have some things installed. Our as we mentioned at prior

[1:25:53] meetings, the bids and estimates that we got uh from the concern in Firmington

[1:26:00] was way over budget and uh a lot of it was you know uh rubber mulch and labor

[1:26:08] and stuff like that which drove up the price to be uh more than twice what we

[1:26:15] have allotted for the project. We're going to need to use some of the money

[1:26:19] for that project for excavation for concrete. We're doing some drilling with

[1:26:25] a post hole auger or something to put to make post. There's probably about 12

[1:26:30] holes that get uh excuse me, probably about 16 holes that get dug in the

[1:26:35] ground that uh a little, you know, once the metal components are placed on

[1:26:41] gravel and leveled, then we'll fill it in with some concrete so that it's

[1:26:46] stable. There's uh one piece under the central pillar of concrete that's

[1:26:52] probably going to take 3/4 of a yard of concrete. And I don't know what concert

[1:26:57] is these days, but it's probably about $200 a yard. I would imagine it

[1:27:01] » is 169. Yeah. >> But

[1:27:05] » it it's right now 160. I checked on it yesterday.

[1:27:10] » Yeah. Okay. So, uh and then my and then they, you know, if it's less than a

[1:27:17] certain amount, then they charge delivery fees. So, it probably ends up

[1:27:21] being about $200 a yard. And I would estimate that we need probably two

[1:27:27] yards, two and a half at the most to uh to seat everything, including the park

[1:27:34] bench seats. Those are just little little things. And we're going to need

[1:27:38] the manpower there. to do that. We might have to hire we've got some other people

[1:27:44] that are concreers or something that uh do things quickly uh instead of uh

[1:27:50] utilizing our staff that is not professionally trained in concrete

[1:27:56] placement or whatever. So, I know it's not that complicated, but it has to be

[1:28:00] super level and there has to be on a center pillar. There's probably about 8

[1:28:06] to 10 uh anchor bolts that need to be placed in the concrete and it needs to

[1:28:10] be super level uh when it's done and then it can be just dropped in and

[1:28:16] bolted in and assembled and uh the assembly should be pretty

[1:28:21] straightforward. We did it. You know, it's going to be easier to

[1:28:26] reassemble it than it was to disassemble it because when you're disassembling,

[1:28:30] there's areas that are seized from corrosion or whatever it requires

[1:28:35] [snorts] spraying and wrenching and torque, you

[1:28:39] know, all this additional hardware to bust things loose. In the assembly

[1:28:45] process, we'll order some new nuts and bolts to make things go quickly and then

[1:28:50] use anti-sea

[1:28:59] or whatever. We'll have that uh the pots playground with two swing sets, a soccer

[1:29:08] field, and a few park benches. Then over on Third Street on the other end on the

[1:29:14] bend where that big walnut tree or pecan tree is, I would like to purchase

[1:29:20] another set of swings over there. There's kids that live on that end. And

[1:29:26] uh swinging is great. And uh and maybe parallel bars that can be fabricated

[1:29:33] with some uh galvanized metal. And uh that's

[1:29:41] I think we'll probably have uh between 10 and 17,000 to spend with

[1:29:50] installation of new equipment ballpark and uh the rest is going to be labor. We

[1:29:58] got to re uh cover our expenses for fuel cost going up there and late.

[1:30:06] giver, you know, for a week of employees, maybe I'll try to take the

[1:30:10] thing down. And I haven't looked at Leslie will probably look at what the

[1:30:14] labor costs on that was for the disassembly and uh and uh and then I'd

[1:30:23] like to move forward pretty quickly with it, you know, so that by uh

[1:30:29] midepptember, by third week of September, we have what we have

[1:30:32] installed. And uh and uh the new stuff that we

[1:30:38] contract out should be installed by in October, which will put us in under

[1:30:44] deadline. I don't think we're going to have to buy

[1:30:47] a lot brand new. We should have enough. It's just a few little things to uh

[1:30:56] » have a question for you. >> Um are we still considering using the

[1:31:00] the equipment that we have down at the old park put in over there?

[1:31:05] » Uh yeah. You know, uh, Rosa, I haven't I haven't gone down there in a while to

[1:31:12] look at what's there, but we you and I and Brian have discussed using that

[1:31:17] earlier. And uh I still Thanks for mentioning that cuz I I didn't even

[1:31:24] consider that uh at this moment. Let's think of the other. So, uh you there's

[1:31:32] some picnic benches down there and a uh a shade structure or something, isn't

[1:31:38] there? >> And what a swing set down there as well.

[1:31:42] » There's a swing set down there. And then we have the hardware to make another uh

[1:31:46] teeter totter. >> So, that's all there.

[1:31:49] » We would just have to make the board for it.

[1:31:52] » All right. Yeah. And I know there's we probably get by getting some of those

[1:31:57] pavilions taken apart too eventually, maybe next year.

[1:32:00] » Yeah. I mean, since you live down there, if you wouldn't mind taking some phone

[1:32:04] snapshots of that of them and sending it to the group uh and I'll, you know, I'll

[1:32:10] put assemble uh I'll work that into the whole thing.

[1:32:15] » Okay. >> And I got a question for you. The

[1:32:19] comment question. The soccer field is a great idea. Um, how do we know it's a

[1:32:23] soccer field going down there to play?

[1:32:28] » Uh, and um, well, you can you can use lime.

[1:32:34] They used back in the old days, they use lime in a uh, you know, to chalk out a a

[1:32:39] rectangle. >> Yeah.

[1:32:40] » Uh, put a circle on it. And then uh, then now they have these breaking

[1:32:46] ingredients that in there. So that maybe require a little extra labor cuz you got

[1:32:51] to both mow and do that before a game. But the posts the the goalposts

[1:32:57] themselves should identify it. You know, it's pretty obvious to see them and it's

[1:33:02] not a huge field either. you know, it's >> uh

[1:33:06] » uh so you know, with that and the post maybe once a month or depends on the

[1:33:13] utilization of it, you know, like if someone's going to use it and they call

[1:33:16] city hall and said, "We, you know, we'd like to use it, then the city will,

[1:33:22] you know, prep the field uh or they can uh with line, you know, put the lines in

[1:33:28] for it. It's not like a football field, >> right? I was just thinking that um

[1:33:35] if I was a kid playing, I would know if I was out of bounds

[1:33:38] or something like that. So, it's not necessarily we have football markers.

[1:33:42] » When I was a kid, we didn't have lines. We just had grass and

[1:33:46] » bases or something. >> Yeah. And you had someone you put stuff

[1:33:51] down in the corners and then uh the raft would call it.

[1:33:56] » Yeah. >> But now there's lines. So,

[1:33:59] Yeah, I was thinking on the corners there's these uh you can get these

[1:34:03] canvas bags that are filled with sand, the corner bags and just to mark the

[1:34:07] corners so that you know you can eye you can eyeball if you're out of line or not

[1:34:11] but just to give them some type of structure because I think it's a great

[1:34:14] idea to have a soccer field and I think a lot of kids play soccer you know if

[1:34:19] they have a field to play in but um if we just better defined I think the

[1:34:23] boundary for them that might be cool. Um, I understand you're going to have a

[1:34:28] go with the >> what they call soccer.

[1:34:36] » I wasn't soccer player, but uh that's that'll help find it too. So, and

[1:34:41] they're painted. >> Yeah. And it's basically a practice

[1:34:45] pitch, you know, practice field. So, uh unless, you know, they decide to have

[1:34:50] toddlers have, you know, their regular games there. And in that scenario, you

[1:34:55] know, we can spray it, you know, spray the lines.

[1:34:59] » Uh, and but for everyday use, I don't think you really need it. You just need

[1:35:04] the vocals and, uh, uh, they, you know, a five or six. If you watch those kids,

[1:35:13] they're just kind of running around with little windup toys. Uh, anyway, you

[1:35:18] know, >> uh, they don't really need the line.

[1:35:21] They just need to be running and practicing their kicking and dribbling

[1:35:25] and stuff. >> Yeah. Thank you.

[1:35:31] » I don't know. Jody Jo, >> I I got it. Okay.

[1:35:36] » Well, she was holding it. >> All right. Cool. All right. Moving on.

[1:35:41] Doc, that is >> uh you know, as far as I know, but uh I

[1:35:46] have in that book that I gave you the other day, the manual for the assembly

[1:35:50] of the new thing. It's got the manual for the assembly of all kinds of toys in

[1:35:54] there. And in front of it, there's a number.

[1:35:59] That's >> Yeah, just pass that down. The

[1:36:04] blueprints in the installation manual. >> Yeah, I can call

[1:36:10] that should be free tomorrow morning to do that.

[1:36:15] » All right. Is that it on that? >> Uh, yeah. other than uh you know all

[1:36:22] hands on deck on getting it done quickly uh so that

[1:36:28] time tick tock on this it's gone on pretty long as it is and uh now we got

[1:36:34] to get moving with all

[1:36:40] construction targets with Doc when you come back in town because I'd like to

[1:36:44] get with you to go down there. >> Yeah. Okay. No problem.

[1:36:51] I'll be back uh by I got to return my rental card next Friday. So, I'll be

[1:36:57] back by Friday. >> Next Friday.

[1:37:01] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[1:37:05] » All right. Moving on.

[1:37:11] » What are we doing on that? >> I'm still looking for all the stuff that

[1:37:15] they finished. How many?

[1:37:21] » 14.

[1:37:27] You got anything to add to that? Down here during that audit.

[1:37:35] There's been so much stuff. >> The audit. You me and you were both down

[1:37:38] here helping her finding certain things that they needed.

[1:37:42] » So I can refresh my memory. refresh your

[1:37:46] memory things on >> like some of the

[1:37:53] receipts and all that looking for. >> I know they reported that we need to

[1:37:58] change the password which again has been something I was

[1:38:03] afraid to do and that's what I told them. But

[1:38:05] » we're getting ready to change that. We updated system.

[1:38:09] Um what else did they tell us?

[1:38:14] Everything needs to be more >> detailed in QuickBooks instead of just

[1:38:21] transferring. It needs to be transferred from this to a

[1:38:26] » for this reason. >> Yeah,

[1:38:29] » we like to do that. >> Yeah,

[1:38:35] » but you know I want to call that a path. Not a path. It's a trail I guess what

[1:38:41] you call it. when you it's like you're showing where you're taking where you

[1:38:44] took the money from and where you're putting it and where it's going. Right

[1:38:47] now, we're just not doing that. We we taken it out. I'm putting it there.

[1:38:51] » It's Well, it's not that it's not there's not a drill. It's the codes are

[1:38:56] not detailed enough. I always put a memo as to why

[1:39:00] » it's the coding that they need more detail with.

[1:39:03] » Well, why don't we try to take a look at it before you and I take a look. Okay.

[1:39:09] » Could be great. Yeah, we'll look at the coding.

[1:39:12] » Okay, there's a lot of coding. They're same numbers and they got.128.

[1:39:17] You know that >> it's just over the years we've added so

[1:39:21] much to it. We haven't taken some out. What do you think?

[1:39:29] » Show me what you

[1:39:38] » All right. the budget status on consolidating and consolidating

[1:39:43] QuickBooks which we just discussed with Brian with that pathway. So

[1:39:49] supposed to help clean it up also. >> Okay.

[1:39:52] » I don't know her name or

[1:39:56] I have to get it again.

[1:40:02] » She has Mary has information I can get from her.

[1:40:05] » Okay. >> But her name number and all that

[1:40:08] » Yeah. see if she can clean her up. >> Yeah, cuz it's

[1:40:13] » it's a crapshoot. >> Yeah. Um we're still working on the

[1:40:17] budget. Quick books went down. It just wouldn't open. Um we were lucky

[1:40:24] to even have it reconciled. >> Yeah.

[1:40:26] » Because it's just overloaded. It's It's just at its max.

[1:40:30] » Yeah. And so I do have to update with that last

[1:40:39] Monday. >> Are you QuickBooks desktop version or

[1:40:42] online? >> The desktop.

[1:40:45] » Don't switch. >> I'm I'm not. Yeah, this was just a

[1:40:48] update to the desktop. >> Okay. I was going to say don't go don't

[1:40:52] go. From what I hear from the clerks that I found the online version,

[1:40:57] » they wish they'd never done it. So >> they were trying to call me and try and

[1:41:02] talk me into that. >> Yeah, I've heard that that is not a good

[1:41:05] idea. Talked to Darla about that in more detail, but um at the clerk's conference

[1:41:12] this summer, a lot of them have issues with online.

[1:41:17] » What do you think, Mary about cleaning up like we just talked about, but that

[1:41:22] there's there's a lot of dead space in there.

[1:41:26] » So I am not the QuickBooks expert. Um, but listening to conversations that

[1:41:32] happen around me and having talked to the lady that QuickBooks, uh, we

[1:41:38] actually did a QuickBooks training at our, um, Clark's conference this summer.

[1:41:44] So, um, sometimes I think it's easier if you're

[1:41:52] doing desktop, I think you can create another company and set it up, right?

[1:41:58] And then instead of trying to go back and undo or redo things that were not

[1:42:05] done properly, >> I just fixed up.

[1:42:08] » Yeah. So that's that's why I really want somebody to come in and look at what you

[1:42:12] have and figure out what's going on and then

[1:42:16] » figure out what the best path is forward.

[1:42:19] » I think you're right about setting up a new company. You know, you don't have to

[1:42:22] fool with anything but brand new and it was coated within there. And after

[1:42:27] you're finished, you wipe that other out.

[1:42:29] » No, you don't wipe it out. You don't deal with it anymore,

[1:42:33] » right? >> You need to keep your financial records,

[1:42:37] » right? I mean, >> yeah,

[1:42:38] » you don't >> you close the you close that fiscal

[1:42:41] year. >> You just set it to the side

[1:42:46] » and it won't wipe out anyway. >> That's a good thing.

[1:42:51] » Anyway, we just once we take out of that build a new new system, we don't have to

[1:42:57] go back in there again. >> Yeah. We just set it to the side.

[1:43:01] » I guess it could get in there set it to the side or something, but

[1:43:04] » Well, yeah. especially with the because the audit that they're doing right now

[1:43:08] is not for the the [clears throat] fiscal year you're currently in. So, you

[1:43:12] will still need that data and everything for your auditors to come in and audit

[1:43:17] this time. >> That could be there. That's always

[1:43:20] there. >> Yeah. Just one other question since

[1:43:23] you're talking about this. So, this person that you do you have someone that

[1:43:26] works with us directly about QuickBooks? Yeah,

[1:43:30] » it's a it's a lady that um does I was hoping I could find her. Yep. Kelly

[1:43:37] Dwire Der and um

[1:43:42] yeah, she she works for a number of communities. she actually does their

[1:43:46] bookkeeping for them. But, um, I asked her if she would come in and and help

[1:43:50] you guys get straightened out because they've been, you know, multiple clerks

[1:43:54] and >> and everything is everybody's done

[1:43:57] things differently and sometimes not well. So, um, she said that she would be

[1:44:03] willing to come down, take a look at it, see what she can do,

[1:44:06] » especially the duplication of things. That's the confusing.

[1:44:09] » Yeah. So, uh, but don't do anything, Leslie, until we talk with Kelly.

[1:44:17] » I'm not messing with nothing. >> I'm too afraid I'm going to screw up. I

[1:44:21] just do what I know and I leave it alone. That's

[1:44:27] you know, >> I mean, it takes 5 minutes sometimes

[1:44:31] just get the companies open up. They're just so bogged down.

[1:44:34] » Yeah. And I think, you know, setting up um some custom reports that you guys can

[1:44:40] use to figure out where you are in your budget, what your revenues are, you

[1:44:45] know, that kind of reporting I think would be very um good to have for the

[1:44:50] council going forward.

[1:44:55] » So, are books up now and running? How's that?

[1:44:59] » Well, they kicking me off that night. When Cody came down and it went on

[1:45:04] download, it kept just saying uh some error code and it just said it

[1:45:10] needed to reboot, reboot, reboot. Finally, internet took after, you know,

[1:45:14] everything's kind of I don't know what internet

[1:45:20] or an external antenn.

[1:45:27] And then how's it been working? I mean it works like it normally does

[1:45:32] take him 10 days to load. Otherwise I mean I can brew a whole pot of coffee

[1:45:40] from start to finish before the page load up. Otherwise it runs just fine

[1:45:44] once I can get into it. >> Okay. I haven't been in that in a long

[1:45:49] time. I'd like to go back in there with you just to see what it's about. Okay.

[1:45:54] And then I still think we're going to need Kelly's assistance. holy.

[1:45:59] » Yeah, >> I don't know enough about it to to

[1:46:02] present >> and I'm going to be a little obsolete

[1:46:05] about some things too. It's been so long that I understand it and uh but I do

[1:46:10] understand a lot has to do with duplication

[1:46:13] said they couldn't find where to put it. They just created count. Yeah, it was

[1:46:17] 0.1. I seen I think one of them had zero in it and 10 lines and nothing that I

[1:46:23] can't believe. >> I just like it was the code in the.16

[1:46:29] like this whole three sections of information.

[1:46:33] » It's a numbers notable order or anything.

[1:46:36] » I think we put a few extra eyes on it. We can figure something out.

[1:46:40] » Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. All right.

[1:46:44] Mary, anything else? Anybody else?

[1:46:48] » I just sent you and Lesie to her card. >> Okay.

[1:46:53] So, this the same card I had before.

[1:46:57] » Yeah. >> You just have to carefully turn your

[1:47:00] phone. >> Well, I do turn.

[1:47:04] » I got down.

[1:47:08] » New business. Um, we need to decide check in on how to be

[1:47:15] more proficient and clock in and clock out process to keep track of the

[1:47:20] personnel and hours of work. Oh, with open time clock like uh we currently

[1:47:26] have um

[1:47:29] using a tablet that works centralized clock in at city hall and it takes a

[1:47:35] picture so nobody else can clock in for them.

[1:47:39] And that way we don't have all this gap that's 52%.

[1:47:45] So we can actually get a decent number in controllable hours.

[1:47:52] So >> mayor, are you talking about a new

[1:47:56] system or the system? >> The same system. It's just they would

[1:47:59] have to come here. >> Yeah.

[1:48:01] » They use it at >> up. We use open time clock also but we

[1:48:05] have a tablet or iPad that's on the wall but we have to go in put our information

[1:48:11] in put where we're working in the like I it's Mary cuz they all facilities

[1:48:18] » and before they will clock you in and take the picture.

[1:48:20] » That sounds great. And it's the central location where you have to

[1:48:24] » Yeah. It has to be right here not outside of here. Now you can change jobs

[1:48:27] once that's integrated. >> Yeah. But you cannot clock out unless

[1:48:32] you're at that main. >> So it just basically just keeps track of

[1:48:39] just that whole day frame, not individually like we're here at this

[1:48:44] time and we're here at this time. So it's just an 8 hour.

[1:48:47] » No, it keeps track if they go in there. >> They don't have the access to clock out

[1:48:53] anymore. It just says switch jobs instead of

[1:48:55] » Oh, so they can still do that part. Okay. Gota

[1:49:02] like so like Charlie goes to lunch on occasion. I don't know if he's going to

[1:49:06] lunch >> because he I mean he can clock in and

[1:49:09] out but I don't know that he's not around and off the clock. So if I try to

[1:49:15] get a hold of him or Eric or whoever to do something I know they came in and

[1:49:20] clocked out for lunch. >> That would be a good picture if they

[1:49:24] came in and clocked out for that lunch time.

[1:49:27] » Yeah. That way it takes a picture and it's there. Nobody can do it for them.

[1:49:32] You biometric code or information, however you want to do it. I know Doc

[1:49:37] donated one, but it's not doesn't work with that system. And

[1:49:42] » it's like 15 years old now. [laughter]

[1:49:45] » What? >> Like 15 years old?

[1:49:47] » 15 years old now. Oh, >> I mean those tablets are cheap.

[1:49:58] » They're getting cheaper. >> They're getting super cheap. Yeah,

[1:50:02] » it's it's going to be an Android system and you download the app and then it's

[1:50:06] on there. It's a geoence, so it has to be here. So, they can't manipulate.

[1:50:11] It'll take that. Yeah, you can probably switch jobs, but it'll show you set it

[1:50:16] their overage and alert for an overage and then everything else from that

[1:50:22] » micro system. >> So, does it have where if they can still

[1:50:27] do it on their phone, are we going to have or is it capable of setting a

[1:50:32] perimeter like they cannot go outside, you know, I don't know, 10 miles or

[1:50:37] whatever. I think there is like there's prohibited places on

[1:50:43] geopens. I never did it that large. I just did it like centralized location.

[1:50:50] Um but I can try to look into that. I'm sure they do. I mean geopence is

[1:50:56] expandable. But I can do it from city limit to city limit or whatever the

[1:51:02] board decides to do if they do decide to go with this. If not, it's fine. I'm

[1:51:07] just trying to get more of that gap press,

[1:51:13] » get more control over that. So we if they're getting close, I can see she can

[1:51:19] see anybody can see that they're over or I can also set it where it tells them

[1:51:24] they're they're not like on overtime they break the clock in and rounds up,

[1:51:30] you know, all that stuff. insurance phone is unable is not compatible with

[1:51:35] time clock. So she has to come in and tell me her hours so she can come in and

[1:51:39] clock in and clock in to keep that information online.

[1:51:45] » So yeah, her phone won't leave. It's just one of the

[1:51:52] » Yeah, it's just call for question. >> Yes, sir.

[1:51:56] » Call for the questions. Now it's time to vote. Yes.

[1:51:59] » Oh, I I said you I thought you said I have a question.

[1:52:02] » Well, there's too much discussion. We'll be discussing all night.

[1:52:10] » Yeah.

[1:52:14] » So, it's called >> motion.

[1:52:18] We look at the availability of different types of equipment.

[1:52:22] » It's it's round between 100 and 15%. >> Excuse me. [clears throat] Your question

[1:52:27] has been called. We can't discuss. >> Excuse me. I'm the chair and I'm

[1:52:31] » It doesn't matter who you are, Mr. Mayor. The question has been called.

[1:52:35] It's time to vote it up or down or table it. We can come back at it. We can go

[1:52:43] and do it. >> Then don't ask me about hours.

[1:52:47] » I'm just telling you what you >> I'm just telling you. You called the

[1:52:50] point question. I'm asking you, Melvin. How do we know how much it costs?

[1:52:57] What's that we need? >> Well, we discussing this and we need to

[1:53:01] vote. >> I know we need to vote tonight. New

[1:53:04] business is we're voting. There is a need for the clock. We want to get one.

[1:53:07] » We need to find out how much it cost >> and

[1:53:11] » or do we have to approve motion is to move on that and revisit

[1:53:18] another time? >> Yeah, we can call the question. So, just

[1:53:21] vote to table this time. >> Yeah, we can table save all this time.

[1:53:26] So motion made by seconded by Alvin Freley.

[1:53:33] » Oh, you flipped that. Okay. He can't He can't make a motion on my motion.

[1:53:39] » You called a question for a vote. He motioned.

[1:53:43] » He can't motion anything. We have to vote on it.

[1:53:47] » We We have to vote either up or that. >> How you going to vote on that? So you're

[1:53:52] the primary motion. >> Yeah. Now would be a motion.

[1:53:56] » Okay. I'm sorry. >> So you're making a motion to vote up or

[1:54:00] down. >> Okay. Somebody please explain to me what

[1:54:05] the heck is going on. What are we learning?

[1:54:09] » I mean learn something if I don't know the questions

[1:54:13] » are answered. Big point of information. >> We we kept just going around and around

[1:54:19] in a circle. I call for the person to stop going around and around in a circle

[1:54:24] and vote it up or down if we want if we're going to say yes or we're going to

[1:54:31] say no >> to get this system.

[1:54:34] » Yeah. >> Okay. But my thing is how why would I

[1:54:37] say yes or no? Because if I don't know if this thing

[1:54:42] » we can tell. >> Okay. That's what I want to find out.

[1:54:44] Okay. >> Yeah. That's why we use the question to

[1:54:48] stop this. You know, it's like a stalling

[1:54:52] technique. Stop there. >> So, when it comes back, we redo it and

[1:54:55] we'll be clear on what we need to do. We take

[1:54:59] it off the table, vote on it, up down, >> am I be hindered to ask questions again,

[1:55:08] though? Any questions I might have got about it? You would have you would have

[1:55:13] had time to research your question and find out if there are any system that's

[1:55:22] okay. [clears throat]

[1:55:25] » I want to be able to break in one question. I know we're in the middle of

[1:55:28] going up or down, but [clears throat] what I think what I think I'm hearing is

[1:55:33] we want to do this. We got to vote whether or not we want to do it or not.

[1:55:36] But the question was how much does it cost before we vote up or down? Because

[1:55:40] it's No, >> he cut it. He called that before that.

[1:55:45] So the point is just put both the table it and bring it back up after.

[1:55:50] » Would you like me to explain this? >> Yes.

[1:55:55] » I need to bring my >> So calling the question under Robert's

[1:56:00] reserve order is a formal motion officially called the previous question

[1:56:04] used to immediately stop debate and hold a vote on the current topic. It does

[1:56:08] require a second. So once there is a motion and a second, you end debate.

[1:56:17] The motion to end debate cannot be discussed or debated.

[1:56:21] So then you call for a vote on ending the discussion. What that does is

[1:56:29] it takes a twothirds vote. Debate stops immediately and the group proceeds to

[1:56:33] vote on the main pending motion. If it fails under twothirds approval,

[1:56:39] discussion on the original topic continues.

[1:56:42] » Well, right

[1:56:48] now [laughter] I want to move forward.

[1:56:52] So, [clears throat]

[1:56:54] » so are you taking this?

[1:56:59] » I don't know. >> He made the motion to

[1:57:04] » up or down vote. >> Up or down?

[1:57:07] » And we'll just call it research. Okay. Is that fine, Mr. Felix?

[1:57:13] Can we just call it a mo motion a point of information to call a vote for point

[1:57:21] of >> information?

[1:57:24] You either vote it out or you vote in here.

[1:57:26] » You vote to end the debate. >> You're voting in debate. That's what I'm

[1:57:30] saying. But >> are you okay? So we're voting to end

[1:57:33] debate.

[1:57:38] Second all favor

[1:57:43] on favor one.

[1:57:49] » I forgot. [laughter]

[1:57:53] » So now you vote on the issue >> which is do you want to proceed with

[1:58:00] obtaining this? >> Yeah, that's what I got. So that's the

[1:58:05] motion that you vote on now. >> Yeah. So could we vote on looking into

[1:58:09] the equipment package or what is that saying or that we use

[1:58:15] » or the motion could be that um you table it pending information on cost

[1:58:20] » and he was right that expand that expands it. So now you can make a

[1:58:24] motion. Somebody can make a motion to take it or table it.

[1:58:28] » I move that be tabled as we can. >> All right. Second

[1:58:34] [laughter]

[1:58:41] motion made second. All in favor? [clears throat]

[1:58:44] » Any oppose?

[1:58:50] » I

[1:58:55] mean,

[1:59:00] » Mr. Mayor, I'm going to have to excuse myself. I've been feeling well and I

[1:59:03] want to go home and take my medicine. >> Okay.

[1:59:07] » Meeting like this, but I got to go. >> That'll be fine.

[1:59:09] » Right. >> Okay.

[1:59:12] » All right.

[1:59:24] One, two, three.

[1:59:29] platform and office. >> Oh,

[1:59:33] I all right. Moving on.

[1:59:39] » Purchase of a 10 terb or larger external hard drive in order to better maintain

[1:59:45] and keep records in office and mainstream future audits and to keep

[1:59:50] better records for future city workers and officials.

[1:59:55] Basically, it's an expandable hard drive and back up to city.

[2:00:00] » It's backup for all files. So, when we have another audit, we're not digging

[2:00:05] and trying to find everything that should be easily accessible. And it

[2:00:10] helps free space on the computer to keep it from running so slow and bob down so

[2:00:15] bad. Well, you're going to be searching

[2:00:19] regardless of whether you have a portable hard drive uh or an actual hard

[2:00:24] drive or what? >> Yes and no.

[2:00:27] » If you file it correctly, you won't be looking so hard.

[2:00:32] » You know what the current uh data requirement is for storage?

[2:00:38] Well, the QuickBooks on the same platform or was it, you know, on

[2:00:42] separate? Which one you talking about? Is it I'm counting QuickBooks and all

[2:00:47] programs including the

[2:00:49] » Yeah. So, what is what's being used right now? 10 10 terabytes seems kind of

[2:00:55] high. >> We also have to keep everything. Some

[2:00:58] things you can never destroy. Other things you have to keep for a minimum of

[2:01:01] what? 5 years. >> 5 years. You have to keep all

[2:01:07] » answer the question. >> We have a a terabyte right now and then

[2:01:14] external or internal add-on I think for that one was the laptop

[2:01:21] » I'm think it's already maxed.

[2:01:26] » You probably don't need a 10. probably like a three or a five cuz you got to

[2:01:30] figure in a couple years. They're going to change how they store data anyway.

[2:01:35] It's always being upgraded. >> So, you don't have to dump a bunch of

[2:01:41] money in something that's like three to four times more than what you need

[2:01:47] because they'll probably have a quander or something in two years, you know? So

[2:01:52] uh so I I would get a little bit more than what you need and then that's my

[2:01:59] consideration thing and then you know in two years you dump that stuff into

[2:02:04] another system or whatever get two threes or something and uh so you have

[2:02:11] two backups at least one gets burned or fried or something.

[2:02:18] just saying.

[2:02:22] » So, it's on the board for motion. There you go.

[2:02:29] » Well, the 10 was $500 for something, wasn't it?

[2:02:32] » 350 I think is the most expensive.

[2:02:38] » I know you got digital format. >> Sorry about that. Uh

[2:02:45] on there, there's the formatting of There's a 8 terbte

[2:02:52] 8. >> Um

[2:02:55] 376

[2:03:02] you said 3 to four. Four would be 280

[2:03:08] some change. 5 terabte 800 for 27 8 terb for 279.

[2:03:15] » Yeah. the 8 terb for 279 >> the five is cheaper than the four

[2:03:21] » I know >> I don't understand that

[2:03:25] » it's slash the price that's why >> oh is it

[2:03:28] » is it >> slash or is it refurbished

[2:03:31] that's my worry I don't >> refurbish we did not have a very good

[2:03:36] one >> I won't ever buy refurbish cuz they tend

[2:03:38] to fail >> I'm not being mean cuz we did get a

[2:03:41] refurbished table [clears throat]

[2:03:44] Um 305 for a 110.

[2:03:50] » Yeah. Mary, what do you what do you think recommend?

[2:03:54] » The thing on the refurbished or not, you don't know that until you ask. You're

[2:03:58] just making stuff up right now. >> No, I'm I got a tablet and I use it for

[2:04:04] or one and it failed and then the other reverb.

[2:04:07] » No, no. I'm saying the one that you have priced for 5 terb for $217.

[2:04:13] You don't know if that one's refurbished or not until you ask

[2:04:17] » is it refurbished? >> I don't know. Is it safe?

[2:04:20] » And then up above, >> what's going on up there? Cuz it says

[2:04:24] capacity. Oh, I guess you have it circled 8 terb. Okay.

[2:04:28] » Yeah, 8 terab.

[2:04:32] » What capacity?

[2:04:35] » Look above all the little icons that say one, four, five, six, whatever. It says

[2:04:41] capacity eight, but that one's highlighted more for 376. But

[2:04:46] » that's weird how they they're different. >> I don't know why different.

[2:04:54] » So would a 5 ter,

[2:04:58] » you know. I mean, you have to have a computer with say you're using this much

[2:05:02] storage and you'll need this much, you know, like uh everybody's make like I'm

[2:05:08] making up uh a reason for this. You're making up a you know, everybody has

[2:05:15] their own concern and no one has the technical knowledge to say, "No, look,

[2:05:23] you've got you're only using one or two, so you don't need a 10 or an eight. you

[2:05:28] get a three, you know, and in 2 years you're going to want to, you know, the

[2:05:34] thing will probably degrade some anyway and you'll want to get another one.

[2:05:38] » Yeah. >> The buy buy 10 times more than what you

[2:05:42] need because it's going to last longer thing is probably not going to apply

[2:05:46] with this type of technology. >> Yeah, with the new SB3s and fours and

[2:05:52] everything coming out. I mean, I can take you into my studio

[2:05:57] right now and show you all kinds of storage devices that are extinct

[2:06:03] » that were the one the hard drive that you're supposed to have for the time.

[2:06:08] They got smaller and smaller. It's going to continually happen.

[2:06:15] » I had the same one too like that it didn't work. You know, it works, but

[2:06:21] that was the thing. So maybe, you know, Mary, if if there's that computer wiz

[2:06:26] that you have that comes in that's going to consult us on the quick end, you

[2:06:30] know, if you would have her do an assessment and say, "Look, this is how

[2:06:34] much data you're using, and this much reserve will cover you, and then we can

[2:06:41] just make a decision and go off of that."

[2:06:45] I'll I'll send an email to uh Valerie and Darla and see if they have

[2:06:51] recommendation. >> Yeah.

[2:06:53] » And Mike Bzinger is our IT guy at work. I can ask him also.

[2:06:59] » Yeah. I mean the argument is well if 10's good get 100 terabytes because it's

[2:07:04] infinite amount of data. But, you know, in 2 years, you know, some a mouse can

[2:07:11] urinate on it or something and things. Uh,

[2:07:16] » we're just >> probably getting off better off getting

[2:07:19] two backups, you know, like a smaller something above what you need with a

[2:07:25] little surplus and then have two backups stored in different places.

[2:07:34] That's recommended anyway. >> Yeah, that's right. [cough] That's Yeah.

[2:07:40] Okay. So,

[2:07:45] anybody make the decision on table that or what you want to do? So,

[2:07:50] » I make a motion to table. Everybody got more information. How much data we are

[2:07:54] still motion table information

[2:08:02] » and then I would defer it or whatever. But I I would also, you know, instead of

[2:08:10] waiting a whole month to decide this once we have the information, if we had

[2:08:14] some way to just say, "Okay, that's the answer. We can need to order this $200

[2:08:21] piece of equipment. It's It's going to be under $500 probably. So, it should be

[2:08:26] a decision that could be made quickly by the mayor and a couple in there.

[2:08:32] » Yeah. And that's correct. >> But you can make the motion to allow the

[2:08:37] purchase up to whatever amount you want. >> No, we can. Yeah.

[2:08:43] » Yeah. So, we can make a motion. I can make my motion on that one or they can

[2:08:50] » they can make Yeah, you guys can make that motion on how much to limit to

[2:08:54] spend on it >> based on the finance. I would make a

[2:08:59] motion to uh allow for let's say $450 uh to be budgeted for this uh and hope

[2:09:10] be budgeted for this and that we can proceed with a decision once we have a

[2:09:16] reasonable estimate of what data how much data storage we need.

[2:09:21] » Is that including researching like consulting

[2:09:26] the 450 We will be lecturing your consultants.

[2:09:31] » Well, I didn't know. I was just making sure.

[2:09:34] » I want regular to make sure. I just They don't charge. Third world warrior don't

[2:09:40] charge. >> All right. Then then that's not an issue

[2:09:44] then. >> Certainly going to decide 400 or 450.

[2:09:50] » I would say 450. So you have enough for two units.

[2:10:01] So, there's a motion for 450 by Doc.

[2:10:10] Does anybody want to second? >> I'll second that.

[2:10:14] » Motion made a second. All in favor. >> Is that an amendment?

[2:10:18] » Huh? >> Was that amendment? Was that amendment?

[2:10:23] » Doc made a motion. >> He made the original. Yeah, he made the

[2:10:27] original motion and said

[2:10:36] » so all in favor. >> Any oppos?

[2:10:41] Motion carries. >> All right.

[2:10:47] Water spray schedule review in accordance with ordinance 10:15.

[2:10:52] And we uh and we take a break. We've been at this for

[2:10:57] 2 hours and a half. My blood is now.

[2:11:06] » Oh my goodness.

[2:11:17] » You have to make a motion. Take a short recess unless

[2:11:22] There we go. >> I make a motion to take a short recess

[2:11:26] so that people can relieve themselves. [laughter]

[2:11:31] » Motion consideration.

[2:11:39] » I All right. Any oppose? I don't think so. Motion carries.

[2:11:46] In 5 minutes, right? We're back in session.

[2:11:53] Um, okay.

[2:11:58] » Yeah, I know you're probably waterworks schedule review ordinance

[2:12:04] 1015 in your package. You'll see that it was brought to my attention to

[2:12:11] what brought to your attention. >> Um, that the billing from previous

[2:12:20] When we change over from u the old system to the new system, the

[2:12:27] some people were getting water at how should I put this?

[2:12:34] » Free.

[2:12:37] So we created the waterwork schedule ordinance

[2:12:43] August 21st in 2025. We already did that. So

[2:12:51] with these yard meters and a lot of them, that's not only it. There's some

[2:12:55] houses that just have water only, not sewer because they're like split between

[2:12:59] the county. Um, so we need to figure something out

[2:13:03] with this cuz it says repeal of 981 if you read it

[2:13:10] on section three of 10:15. So that would I would think Mary if you

[2:13:17] could help me with that I think that would in my understanding that would

[2:13:22] repeal 981 >> exactly.

[2:13:26] » So at that base rate that USDA schedules for us are these

[2:13:34] separate meters with pressure on our side are they

[2:13:38] considered active meters and should be charged and such?

[2:13:42] » Yes. Okay. All right.

[2:13:46] So, that's pretty much where our deficit is, right? I guess the residents are

[2:13:52] compensating for the loss on the other side on those accounts. There's like how

[2:13:57] many? So a

[2:14:00] » 15 >> 15 I'm sorry 15 accounts that weren't

[2:14:05] tier field drive when the when uh Valerie came in and

[2:14:11] that clerk previously set that up those were never

[2:14:16] built but a base rate of $13 and then

[2:14:20] » um I don't know what that was. I didn't do that.

[2:14:24] » No you I'm just saying that's what I found on subs.

[2:14:27] » Yeah. So their bills were just flat rate. So they can use 86,000 gallons and

[2:14:32] just pay 13 12 or 60 21 I'm sorry.

[2:14:39] » So yeah, you pay more than that for the

[2:14:44] water because you buy water.

[2:14:48] » Yes. >> So you can't.

[2:14:52] So based on your expert opinion and

[2:14:59] training and knowledge and experience with this with other towns that have

[2:15:04] secondary meters or residential or they build the same thing.

[2:15:08] » Yeah. They don't get a special rate. They just don't get charged sewer for

[2:15:11] that. >> Okay.

[2:15:13] » Meter. That's the purpose of a yard meter or an irrigation meter is that you

[2:15:19] don't pay sewer fees. So, but you do still have to pay the

[2:15:24] meter charge and the per gallon per thousand gallon rate for the water.

[2:15:29] » Okay. 981.

[2:15:32] The previous administration had where they originally they had it set up like

[2:15:37] 10:15 which then they repealed it went to 981.

[2:15:41] » Mhm. So,

[2:15:46] cuz when we looked into it, we lost $18,000.

[2:15:53] » Um, I don't remember the exact amount. I just know it was a 96% loss.

[2:15:58] » 96.2% loss. >> But you can't go back and back bill. No,

[2:16:02] » no, no. I'm not I'm just let >> going forward from that administrative

[2:16:08] oversight. Obviously. >> Mhm.

[2:16:12] » Do we build it at the minimum of 3640 for those?

[2:16:17] » Yeah. >> Cuz I mean

[2:16:22] » that's what your ordinance says for the 105.

[2:16:26] » So do we we don't need to make up a new orders.

[2:16:30] » Okay. So does this one with this the 105 that includes gardeners here?

[2:16:40] » Okay.

[2:16:46] » Would that because of the USDA rules in that contract 981

[2:16:51] by changing and separate segregating these two from

[2:16:55] each other that's not legal. Is it legal or is there anything legalitywise with

[2:17:00] it? >> So

[2:17:04] before I get >> advice, you know, I would give them. But

[2:17:08] at the time, that's what they did. They passed the ordinance and they bailed the

[2:17:11] people at that rate. >> Yeah.

[2:17:14] » But what when we did this back in 2025, it cancelled all the previous rape

[2:17:22] ordinances, including 981. So >> I just didn't know 981 existed at that

[2:17:29] time. >> Yeah.

[2:17:32] » So not do you think 981 is a viable solution? Anything that be I mean cuz

[2:17:40] they're not paying for paying per gallon but they haven't most of these been just

[2:17:45] paying a base fee. It's been >> 131 a month. There's one I think Brian's

[2:17:50] channel I'm not I know but it is accurate

[2:17:54] been other than the base but other than gowns have been built but the rest of

[2:18:00] them is just one piece no matter what you use.

[2:18:06] » But that's that's immaterial. This is what you need to do now.

[2:18:09] » That's what I'm saying. I just wanted to clarify that before

[2:18:15] » it gets realistic around here because

[2:18:21] right >> so what you might do on the accounts

[2:18:25] that this is um pertinent to the 13 to 15 m

[2:18:31] » um I think I would pull their bills and not do a postcard bill. I would send a

[2:18:36] copy of this ordinance and a letter stating that this is what your bills

[2:18:40] will be for the water only meter at your address so that they

[2:18:46] » Yeah. And just put it in a regular envelope and mail them that.

[2:18:49] » I can do that. >> Yeah. So that would be making our water

[2:18:54] surpluses lower than normally. Pretty much the

[2:19:01] other meters are compensating for the loss of the other ones, right? that I

[2:19:04] was working or balancing out. >> No. So,

[2:19:09] » I'm not sure exactly. So, if I remember correctly, I don't think you guys are

[2:19:15] still in the black as far as revenues go. I was looking at the treasures

[2:19:21] report tonight and um I think that you all had projected that you would make

[2:19:28] $180,000 in water revenue this year. So after 10

[2:19:33] months I think you're going to earn 18. Um but I'm not sure if that's expenses

[2:19:40] or revenue. So um

[2:19:45] because the water fund so um original budget

[2:19:53] 181400 budget used. So this is maybe expenses

[2:19:59] but there's no there's no place on your financial statement to know how much

[2:20:04] money you have collected year to date. Um

[2:20:13] so I'll work with Leslie and see if we can figure out some of that stuff

[2:20:18] because you need to know that to do your budget.

[2:20:21] » Yeah, that's a big thing on that. That's why I just want to make sure cuz

[2:20:27] when I say that just based on that usage that it it made sense when I compared

[2:20:33] the reports from the meter off the county.

[2:20:36] » That's what you need to do is compare gallons gallons they are billing you

[2:20:41] versus gallons you build the customers that you serve. And I don't think that

[2:20:46] has been done. >> No, she just I got it somewhere but she

[2:20:51] did broke down and I compared those numbers with what we claim it's loss. We

[2:20:56] thought it was lost which it is a loss but that I think there's probably

[2:21:03] 15 to 20% maybe margin there. There was some broken lines but pretty much it's

[2:21:10] spot on when you add all that together plus or minus. So I mean I just wanted

[2:21:16] to check with you. >> Oh financial cost $18,439

[2:21:20] » and what what was paid in >> to receive 400 or $73

[2:21:27] » and we paid how much? >> $18,349.

[2:21:31] So there's >> And how many gallons was that based on?

[2:21:38] » I'm not sure because >> I think that the beginning readings on

[2:21:44] some of the meters are not accurate. >> They're not.

[2:21:46] » And so it's really hard to know how many gallons. It's kind of a gift.

[2:21:51] » Yeah. >> And the numbers I do have. Yeah.

[2:21:54] » I'm going to get into that, too. Um,

[2:21:59] so did you figure out the difference percentage wise on those Neptunes? I

[2:22:03] did. Okay. So, Neptune hand down also since you brought that up about a

[2:22:10] nonaccurate meters. I'm going to point Neptune install four all around points

[2:22:15] of the city different cellular. cellular was in the demo and compared to

[2:22:23] previous month to this month three out of the four or 7 10% off

[2:22:30] » the old meters were lower than living meters.

[2:22:34] » Yes. So,

[2:22:37] our current meters in the ground are they're benefiting everybody,

[2:22:45] but they're they're not actually reading correctly, but they're obsolete.

[2:22:51] So, I just wanted to see as a basis and see what the cellular would be like cuz

[2:22:58] it was a demo, you know, on Neptune. It does a tenth of a gallon. So it was nice

[2:23:02] seeing and like one had a quick loss like use a lot of water and it alerts

[2:23:09] you. It was pretty neat but the whole spectrum of it but I just wanted to see

[2:23:14] what if our meters were accurate then >> how long have they been in the ground?

[2:23:18] » 1 month. >> No the old

[2:23:20] » how many Oh the old meters 2009

[2:23:29] 15 years. What kind of meters are they? Do they have a wobble disc inside of

[2:23:33] them? Do you know? >> Yeah.

[2:23:34] » Yeah. >> They're the new disc with the magnet. A

[2:23:39] lot of times you get they don't and I can't I can't find any parts to

[2:23:44] rebuild them. I try. I mean, I rebuild what I can, but

[2:23:47] » Yeah. It's You're not going to get the accuracy back.

[2:23:51] » Yeah. And any place that the meter freezes um usually what happens is that

[2:23:56] magnet breaks off or partially breaks off and that's and it'll catch you know

[2:24:01] some of the turns but not all of them. >> So anytime you have freezing that's an

[2:24:07] issue too. >> Yeah. So that's I was just curious to

[2:24:12] bring all of that too. What kind of what's the measuring mechanism in the

[2:24:17] new >> ultrasonic

[2:24:20] to advance >> ultrasonic and then base cellular

[2:24:26] and they all were number one I mean they had a couple hit and miss but they still

[2:24:32] registered but they're to a tenth of a gallon

[2:24:35] » so and these were brand new they stuck me

[2:24:39] around and I couldn't believe the difference in usage only one was

[2:24:43] accurate compared to the other three. I mean, the gas station was up, wasn't it?

[2:24:52] Only >> What size meter is the gas station? Is

[2:24:54] it just a regular regular? Yeah, 5/4.

[2:25:00] So, and then >> that's surprising. The gas station ice

[2:25:04] machines or do they buy all their ice? >> They buy their ice and dump it in there.

[2:25:09] » Okay. >> That's what I do. At least I'm pretty

[2:25:11] sure it still do that. So >> I changes a lot of water.

[2:25:15] » Yeah. So that's probably why he buys in cold and they throw bags in it and

[2:25:20] stuff. But

[2:25:22] » I just wanted to make sure this ordinance and any other have any

[2:25:26] questions about it

[2:25:32] » cuz and then I wanted to make people aware about the meters difference too.

[2:25:46] Okay. >> Okay.

[2:25:50] So, yeah. Hey, who is it?

[2:25:59] Yes. Do that. Are you there? I'm just coughing.

[2:26:04] » Okay. Bless you.

[2:26:08] That's coughing.

[2:26:18] » All right, moving on. Okay.

[2:26:23] Is there anything else? You guys want to bring board

[2:26:28] before we adjourn

[2:26:33] and go into close session real quick.

[2:26:41] Nothing. All right. >> Why do we have all these reports?

[2:26:47] » Oh, I don't have that. Sorry. >> All right.

[2:26:51] » Sorry. I don't have 105.

[2:26:56] There you go.

[2:27:03] » Moving on. Departmental.

[2:27:07] All right. On emergency management. Uh Joker still working FEMA. Working on

[2:27:13] that. Also, I talked to Michael and there's some

[2:27:19] other grants he sent me. I'm signing one. We're going to get some more money

[2:27:24] from one of the loans. It held 10% back but not loans grants. Correct.

[2:27:34] » So, yes. So, other than that, I've been watching just different things. Um,

[2:27:45] » did he say how much? >> Uh, I believe about five grand. They

[2:27:50] held back 750 is what we're looking at right now.

[2:27:56] » Yeah, there's >> I don't know other

[2:27:58] » Yeah, the other ones the 3750 on one of them, but they held back. So,

[2:28:04] um other than that, I don't have anything really.

[2:28:13] So, police department

[2:28:18] doc >> uh non-existent right now.

[2:28:24] » All right. We are too tall. Right.

[2:28:31] Administration department. Um um Alderman Helms is um left early from

[2:28:39] illness. Alman Freish, do you have anything to

[2:28:43] report on? >> I'll let Brian do his job.

[2:28:49] » Okay, Brian, >> cuz he should have been helping all this

[2:28:52] time to help Leslie give Snapchat and he hasn't.

[2:29:01] And we need that snapshot. My [clears throat] wife does it. Has he

[2:29:05] shown? >> I hate that he left cuz I was going to

[2:29:09] tell him he was he

[2:29:14] » just left. I didn't know he said he didn't take mad. So

[2:29:19] » he had some uh he told me last week that he had uh some dental problems and had

[2:29:28] uh I don't know root canal or something like that. So,

[2:29:33] » all right. >> That's that's probably what was going on

[2:29:36] with that. >> Okay. Well, I agree. Brian needs to be

[2:29:41] more active with admin. He needs a reason to come down, I guess. Is that

[2:29:45] right? He >> say,

[2:29:48] » so we're going to hold that. >> Yeah. Sure.

[2:29:52] » All right. Uh street department do

[2:29:58] » uh the streets look beautiful where they've been done. Uh they I mean really

[2:30:03] it's been uh great around fourth street around the corner and I then I saw when

[2:30:11] I was leaving town they were working up the road up towards the church I guess

[2:30:17] and we had a call from a resident on 8th Street

[2:30:22] uh regarding the uh regarding 8th Street and what uh you

[2:30:30] know when it was going be done, etc. So, I explained that,

[2:30:35] you know, that you had a sequence of of streets that you were doing with jokers

[2:30:40] and uh that they would uh and I that I remember that you had

[2:30:48] mentioned that uh

[2:30:53] that was on their list of things to do. Uh, and then this thing where uh Ronnie

[2:31:00] Garnett mentioned uh about the trees and he said cedar but

[2:31:06] I think he meant sycamore and uh I was trying to get you know that's between my

[2:31:13] property and the wristlers and uh I was trying to understand what he said and

[2:31:19] and then after thinking about a bit he was right. There was a a large walnut

[2:31:26] tree limb that fell that night that we had the big storm and uh

[2:31:33] uh I she couldn't get out of her driveway.

[2:31:39] So uh I went over and and Eric cut some limbs up and I cut some limbs up and we

[2:31:46] chucked it all out of the way so she can get in and out for like crisis

[2:31:51] management. So, if uh the guys have time to

[2:31:57] uh snatch those limbs up and put them on a trailer and take them down to get

[2:32:02] burned, that'll be great. >> All right.

[2:32:06] » Where was that at again? >> Sycamore and Fourth.

[2:32:12] Okay. >> Right in front of Brenda Risker's house.

[2:32:15] » Okay. >> Yeah.

[2:32:19] All right. Anything else?

[2:32:25] Uh, well, it's a minor issue, but on uh third and sycamore

[2:32:33] on third and sycamore, they, you know, when they detour when jokers detourred

[2:32:41] traffic through there, then uh, you know, like right away the road started

[2:32:46] to tear up on that corner. And we've uh had a chat about that and Todd I guess

[2:32:52] was going to look at it to see if something could be done about that.

[2:32:55] Yeah. >> Yeah, we already um yesterday we went

[2:32:59] around and he went up there by you what your concerns were with that curve.

[2:33:05] So he's looking and see what he can do about

[2:33:09] that and also the other third and second more

[2:33:14] issue. >> Yeah. head and over

[2:33:19] uh on I guess at Seventh Street the that one tree roots that be that needed to be

[2:33:29] cut out or something with those pine trees

[2:33:32] that that [clears throat] may need further attention

[2:33:37] once they're up there working on it. Yeah, maybe

[2:33:44] Frankie and the guys couldn't get that uh cut out and cut that lateral branch,

[2:33:51] you know, that's going on the road and while they're up there, there may be an

[2:33:56] opportunity to uh address that with since they got asphalt up there,

[2:34:03] too. And it probably doesn't require that much to patch that those two. I

[2:34:09] don't know if it's one spot or two spots.

[2:34:11] » It's two. It's like 10 by 20 and then another little spot.

[2:34:17] It's minimal just cut out. >> Yeah. It's also that location if they're

[2:34:22] going to be uh like that. I don't know about cuz if

[2:34:27] they're going to be building houses up there, then that means they're going to

[2:34:32] be hauling heavy equipment in and out of there to, you know, to accomplish that

[2:34:37] stuff. And we, you know, we're probably going to have to take a look at how to

[2:34:42] manage that so stuff doesn't get damaged more or dam, you know, like maybe some

[2:34:48] of it will can be delayed until the subdivision's put up because the streets

[2:34:54] will get torn up by bulldozers and stuff going in and out of there. Yeah.

[2:34:59] » And uh and then when it's done and you got new houses up, then you can kind of

[2:35:05] repave the road so it looks, you know, kind of posh.

[2:35:10] And yeah, Todd and Steve and me were talking about that and then leaving some

[2:35:15] gaps in those areas so when they got done, Steve could probably take on when

[2:35:22] he fills his roads, finish those gaps instead of us.

[2:35:28] Does that make sense? Once you select somebody to wedge cut

[2:35:34] like you're you're saying leave that areas where they don't get to

[2:35:40] that's just my thoughts. I don't know that that needs to be done. It's just a

[2:35:44] lot you know there's that's a pro potential problem spot. I think

[2:35:49] » it is. It is. What do we have to wait about the whole seventh street there

[2:35:55] down to uh 61? You don't want to I don't know if

[2:36:00] there's anything there. >> No, they're not I don't think I think

[2:36:05] they're going to patch a few spots or do like what they call wedge repair that

[2:36:09] binds it. It's like a heart. But there's that valve down there. But that's all

[2:36:13] mod and mod that everybody else that one

[2:36:18] valve was really bent on that one side. So

[2:36:24] I'll call Brad and see if he can feather that out cuz that's a steep hill.

[2:36:30] There's got to be a way to Is that what you're talking about?

[2:36:33] » Yeah. Like from 61 up way up 7th Street. >> Yeah. if they're going to be putting

[2:36:38] those big trucks through there. There's anything from was it um

[2:36:43] Sycamore down to um 61

[2:36:52] area? >> No, 7 7th Street down to um yeah, I'm

[2:36:57] sorry. Seven Seventh Street there. That intersection of 7th Street

[2:37:02] and anything from 7th Street down to 61. If there's anything needs to be patched,

[2:37:07] we probably need to hold off on that until after they start building.

[2:37:11] » Yeah, we weren't planning on good of that. And just like at the top of

[2:37:15] scenarion

[2:37:24] would go in and we that's why it's feathered in it right by the fire

[2:37:28] hydrant and that's it. than the rest. It's just damage control, holding what

[2:37:34] we can back from time B in so we don't lose the whole road and have to do a

[2:37:40] full tear out. And that will hold right there till he gets done with every

[2:37:45] building. They would have to come up probably

[2:37:52] or something. I would imagine they can't come up seventh unless they have a

[2:37:57] special logo. But I mean that's I don't know. I don't know what it is. Bobby

[2:38:02] knows that they find it from Bobby's have equipment up there. So I don't

[2:38:06] know. But yeah, everything on that side they stopped up there. That's they're

[2:38:10] not going further than that because that subdivision and what he wants to do.

[2:38:16] » I see over there behind the antique mall by the um that one's house. They tore

[2:38:25] part not to they cut part of that street out from side to side

[2:38:30] » where >> Yeah. Right over

[2:38:33] » Yeah. For six street [clears throat] totally falling apart.

[2:38:38] We passed and passed and passed and it's just falling out and so they just cut

[2:38:43] that wedge out and they're going that way and call a skimp about skimp like

[2:38:47] that one. It's a heart attack. >> Are they going to fill that in then?

[2:38:52] » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tomorrow is actually they're doing it. It's just a BB1 hard

[2:38:59] pack. to kind of bind that instead of chipping seal. What does hold it till we

[2:39:04] can actually do a 4 in over, you know, where like 8 Street's getting overhauled

[2:39:10] where the bad spot all the way down is and like Doc said, there's spots here

[2:39:17] and there, but and they've been hitting some extra spots, you know, cuz it's

[2:39:21] like been leveling out. So, I mean, if there's any concerns with that, I know

[2:39:27] there'll be six tomorrow and I and they'll let me know after that. It's

[2:39:32] just not a whole six. It's just kind of like by Eric and house and where

[2:39:38] the hill goes cuz that hill and by Margaret's

[2:39:42] » and and Dwayne's old house is all popped up and Eric put some cold patch and it's

[2:39:47] already gone kicked up. I don't know why it don't

[2:39:52] take but everything's just popping. So, but I see your point. They're not doing

[2:39:58] the whole thing. That's what you worry about around that square.

[2:40:01] » Yeah. >> They're not doing that. The root

[2:40:03] remedation. Is that what you're talking about, Doc?

[2:40:08] Cutting them roots out. That's a 10 by 20 spot. That's all it is.

[2:40:12] » Yeah. >> All right.

[2:40:15] » All right. Well, don't have to dig it up and cut the roots and and then dig the

[2:40:22] root up that's under the road so it'll drop down cuz otherwise it's going to

[2:40:25] rot and, you know, stay elevated. Okay.

[2:40:32] All right. Anything else, doc? Uh, no. I think that's [clears throat]

[2:40:38] it. Okay. All right. Water and waste water

[2:40:43] departments.

[2:40:49] As you notice, you're with Eric and I who has major safety issues,

[2:40:57] electrical, chemical,

[2:41:01] and

[2:41:05] the biggest thing you notice, I don't know,

[2:41:11] I'm noticing that this electrical thing is to defend

[2:41:19] and I put on my sheet will a statement be made about the city not having a

[2:41:24] money to mitigate safety issues. We have to we have to mitigate safety

[2:41:30] issues. We can't have a person electrocuted on our property or have a

[2:41:36] person that's come and sit at home and pay their bills beaten by a snake. Cuz

[2:41:44] if we wouldn't have put those covers

[2:41:50] right there on those doors, three copperheads have been killed on our

[2:41:55] property and nobody has done a damn thing. See,

[2:42:00] we can't live like that. We just can't. And if we got out to the

[2:42:05] public, there's a living up in these pipes and up in

[2:42:11] this attic. And we got the city hall. >> The back where the old well is

[2:42:18] » right there on both sides. >> We We closed the hole off. It was a big

[2:42:25] hole like this. I had Eric go and get a piece of metal and put it in front of it

[2:42:32] because we had said we was going to purchase a door. We need a new door

[2:42:40] and we need a new lot set at the water

[2:42:45] plant. People just go in and out and then out and go

[2:42:51] anytime they want. That frightens me because old military man, you got to

[2:42:56] have control. You got to lock stuff down cuz people find out stuff that's open.

[2:43:01] They'll go in there and do crazy things. So, I was saying we need to fix some of

[2:43:07] these safety issues here. Are we going to be following this? Cuz

[2:43:16] we need to put the money in to get those doors.

[2:43:21] two doors, one down at the plank and one here. Cuz the windows broke out. There's

[2:43:26] a big old hole like that. Let's take this right on down.

[2:43:36] » I didn't tell you, but I want you to know

[2:43:40] » that's when I was keeping you awake and I was keeping the folks working on each

[2:43:44] side of you trying to mitigate some of this stuff.

[2:43:51] in our dump truck.

[2:43:56] We'll be following on this getting this dump truck. We going to need this dump

[2:43:59] truck. >> Yeah,

[2:44:03] » we don't need it. >> Yeah.

[2:44:05] » And that's talking about hydraulics.

[2:44:11] » Hydraulics. >> But as you saw, Mr. Mayor, that

[2:44:15] electrical stuff >> that's Yeah. I got a call tomorrow. You

[2:44:20] want me to call out and follow through with

[2:44:23] » the mayor of paral citizens electric? She referred

[2:44:29] him to another member. We got to get something

[2:44:33] out here because we don't have any control of the

[2:44:37] power source, right?

[2:44:39] » No, it's digging back into a box there from the old threephase water filtration

[2:44:46] system. So, it's in a switch box. >> We'll throw a switch box.

[2:44:52] » We've been We've been really trying to mitigate some of this stuff.

[2:44:58] We going to need everybody's help on supporting us.

[2:45:03] I just see it coming. We got rid of 29 trucks of Sud

[2:45:14] dealing with all that chlorox two weeks ago

[2:45:21] cuz the city in the garage so long. So the

[2:45:25] oxides and the pallets just rotted away.

[2:45:33] What else? and we spread gravel in there to try to

[2:45:38] help the yard so we don't get stuck when we're running out of equipment. I

[2:45:44] really need your support cuz I want to put in work orders to get some of this

[2:45:52] done before something bad happens. >> So, have you priced doors or anything

[2:45:58] like that? We have um that south door is got to be like an emergency door with

[2:46:04] the push thing and it's got to be fire rated because of

[2:46:09] that electrical glass that you get glass cabinet

[2:46:16] for the controls of the whole wastewater plant.

[2:46:21] The north face door, I guess, west face door or east face door. East,

[2:46:28] » sorry, I'm sorry. East face door can just be reed. I can re key this one over

[2:46:32] here. I need to get a full measurement of the sash because it is rotted away

[2:46:37] and bad. >> Can you get the measurements for parent

[2:46:42] so we can >> and if this if the framing's rotted out

[2:46:47] just give me inside jam, you know, outside jam and all that and I can go

[2:46:52] from there. >> We took the whole team

[2:46:58] up on the second floor on the old water plant.

[2:47:03] What? Three three uh board >> two two sheets of two sheets of board

[2:47:08] had to be put up. >> Yeah.

[2:47:10] » To close that off. >> Yeah. And that

[2:47:13] » birds and anything they want to come in there can go in there and hang out.

[2:47:18] » There's a fire there and burnt through the wall and everything.

[2:47:21] » But nobody did anything and screen it up >> at the old fire thing.

[2:47:25] » Yeah. The right where the costic soda's hand is right behind me.

[2:47:31] It took the whole team over there to get it done. We made it in less than two

[2:47:36] hours.

[2:47:40] » What we do with the cost of soda, Mary? Is there a way to break that down?

[2:47:46] » So, you have costic soda store over there just still.

[2:47:51] » I'm sorry to interrupt. No, I [clears throat] I just thought about

[2:47:57] nobody knows around here. Like >> I would I would call one of the water

[2:48:01] circuit writers. Um

[2:48:08] probably Dustin Goodman Goodman and talk to him. Um

[2:48:20] I'm sure there's a way to neutralize it. But you don't want to create a heat

[2:48:25] issue or an explosive issue. So there's I'm sure a safer way to do that

[2:48:32] » because they had to be processed with another acid and another thing broke

[2:48:37] down with water and >> right but then it highly volatile at

[2:48:42] certain points temperatures and there >> and I touched a bag of that and ate my

[2:48:47] fingers like I didn't know what it was. I thought it was lining broke. Uh-huh.

[2:48:54] It's not. >> Yeah. So, um

[2:48:59] » Yeah. I'm I'd call Dustin and see if he's going to be in the area.

[2:49:03] » I'll call Dustin and see what he thinks. >> Cuz now, do we need to keep electric

[2:49:09] going to this old well that's not hooked up and there's never been control into

[2:49:13] it?

[2:49:17] » Is it listed as an emergency supply? No. >> But no, I don't think so. That's best

[2:49:22] than that, >> too.

[2:49:24] We're paying electric. >> Yeah. You're going to pay me either fee

[2:49:29] whether there's usage or not. >> Yeah. And it's been capped and plugged

[2:49:33] as well. One and two would have already been plugged. So, and there was no use.

[2:49:39] They spent a bunch of money, but never. So, I'll ask us in that. I I didn't mean

[2:49:46] to interject. No, I'm sorry. No, but you need electrician, you need electrician

[2:49:50] coming tomorrow. >> Next Friday. Next Friday.

[2:49:54] » Next Friday. >> Next Friday at 8 a.m.

[2:49:57] » Because every electrical issue we had, we put an order on it to give us an

[2:50:04] estimate. But he can't give us an estimate until he

[2:50:10] get what y'all call it. There's a

[2:50:14] three-phase main coming into the junction box and they split it down to a

[2:50:18] single phase and ran it over here to the 200 amp service and and everything's

[2:50:25] piggy back in here. >> Oh wow.

[2:50:27] » Yeah. When they got rid of this um water treatment treatment. Yeah.

[2:50:34] I guess in lie of cleaning and disposing it, they let them take the wire. So it's

[2:50:39] stripped. >> They ripped everything out. So there's

[2:50:43] nothing but a hot three leg system in there.

[2:50:49] Yeah. And that's the only thing that shuts it off. And that's not even I

[2:50:54] haven't seen a box like this since the 80s

[2:50:59] electrician come. >> Brian gets up at the

[2:51:04] the convenience store. He's a certified electrician.

[2:51:09] And then I'm talking to some other electricians over at the school. I found

[2:51:14] your beans. They put those pipes on. You said Shelby.

[2:51:19] » Yes. >> Perry County School has a whole bunch of

[2:51:23] them sitting out. They're ready to go somewhere. So, I'm

[2:51:27] going to talk with the maintenance manager.

[2:51:30] » Okay. Tomorrow. We get our pipes and stuff. Is that what

[2:51:36] you said you want to do? >> Yeah. So they don't get old.

[2:51:42] » But that electrical thing is not going to be cheap.

[2:51:46] » No, >> it's not going to be cheap by us, not

[2:51:52] » you. >> I pointed it out to firm.

[2:51:55] » No, some of that reimburse money was for that box,

[2:52:00] » but they didn't count that because they it's straight through and through.

[2:52:04] Even though it's a switch, it's not up. It's not standard code policy.

[2:52:11] » So, it doesn't even meet building the other requirements. So,

[2:52:15] » we're very fortunate. We are very fortunate. Nobody has hurt.

[2:52:19] » Now, I got a brand new 200 amp service commercial one. We need it cuz that box

[2:52:27] is loose.

[2:52:30] I'd like to see what he's going to tell us what it's going to cost us to get

[2:52:34] this. But we can't close our eyes and hear.

[2:52:39] We better >> do something.

[2:52:41] » It's just And the plant that Michael's working on the big box. Trying to find a

[2:52:47] company that specializes in that cuz that's a mess, too.

[2:52:53] » The one down. >> Yeah. It keeps kicking out and this and

[2:52:57] that. Just So

[2:53:01] » is that the one who open door and stuff? >> Yeah, you got to open your head.

[2:53:06] » Burn said they just >> they didn't take care of No.

[2:53:12] » Did he Didn't he tell us he didn't say like it was that big of a deal, but it

[2:53:17] had to be corrected. >> Yeah. He said he said it wasn't that big

[2:53:21] of a deal in there. And he said, "Won't you open up the box depending on how

[2:53:25] they got stuff wired?" >> I open that box with Michael and his

[2:53:29] engineer, [clears throat] his electrical engineer.

[2:53:34] » And you got generator backup wires that go in there with switch box.

[2:53:39] » All kinds of wires. >> I mean, it's not just simple. I mean

[2:53:42] looking at it and saying simple but when you have engineering electrical engineer

[2:53:48] that wants to just run a separate box just for the plant to run because it's

[2:53:53] too much of a risk to kill everything. >> Yeah.

[2:53:57] » Hey maybe [clears throat] I think you're right have a backup to

[2:54:04] make sure >> we have to what that generator required.

[2:54:07] I mean cuz it has wire secondary wires on the switch box and add it in. You

[2:54:15] know >> I think we we have drug so long and now

[2:54:21] we pick >> you know any town needs 55 gallons of

[2:54:24] moratic acid. >> But since I mean ask us

[2:54:30] » okay I didn't know he ran around. We used to use when I worked at the water

[2:54:35] plant, we used muratic acid to clean the line machines all the time.

[2:54:38] » Yeah. >> Then we would pour muratic acid right on

[2:54:42] the machines and then posttop. >> I've been in some dicey situations.

[2:54:48] » Well, we got 85 gallons and water on a plant might melt it and fall apart.

[2:54:55] » Yeah, they will.

[2:54:59] » Anything else? No. I'm sorry. No, I'm not sorry. That was at the

[2:55:04] bottom of my list. >> Was it

[2:55:09] serious? >> Well, it crossed it out. It came across

[2:55:13] my mind. Oh, yeah. >> All right. Parking cemetery.

[2:55:20] » Not too much about the park. Cemetery. you a couple questions about um have we

[2:55:26] ever gotten the big limb removed that we took a couple bids on?

[2:55:34] » No. >> No.

[2:55:35] » It broke some more here and there and Sharon's cut it up, but it's still

[2:55:41] treating them. And Jim was supposed to like he requested submit other bid and

[2:55:49] he hasn't yet. So, I haven't got anything from him.

[2:55:53] We need >> fire.

[2:55:55] » Yeah, I know. >> There.

[2:55:58] » And then I need I got with Jeff. I think Jeff Rosette. He said we can take and

[2:56:04] cut the fence right there. We had to lay all over there and cut it up as long as

[2:56:09] we cleaned it up. So it didn't fall this way and hit tombstone. So we could they

[2:56:15] could drop it that way in this field. So we would just have to reconnect the

[2:56:20] fence with that which won't be hard to do.

[2:56:23] » Is there anything on the other side of the fence? Just the field.

[2:56:26] » Just his field. Yeah. Yeah. >> What's his name?

[2:56:30] » See Jeff and Trish.

[2:56:34] » Oh, you know, you know,

[2:56:39] that's the only thing I can think of top, you know, actually that thing goes.

[2:56:44] » Well, that would save us some money. I know it would be labor for us the city

[2:56:49] to do it that way. >> Joseph is, you know, if it's woody, but

[2:56:54] as long as we put on the side, he'll need it. We can get it and split it. So,

[2:56:58] it's being reused instead of just burn, you know what I mean? I mean, it's being

[2:57:02] burned, but that way it will be labor on us, but at least we won't be paying.

[2:57:09] I don't know. I mean, it's up to you how you want to do this. I can call and ask

[2:57:12] somebody to drop it and then us cut it up. or them cut it up or whatever you

[2:57:18] want me to do. I mean, let's you and I go up there and look.

[2:57:22] » Yeah, cuz I mean it keeps breaking off in certain spots. It hit one tombstone.

[2:57:27] It's not too bad. I was able to clean it up.

[2:57:30] » That was my next question. I know we had that storm um first part of August and

[2:57:35] you sent me pictures of those little pieces that fallen.

[2:57:38] » No, it was more of that tree there and another tree. And any of those

[2:57:43] tombstones if they're damaged from them? >> That one was a chip, but not enough down

[2:57:48] to the lettering. It was one of them rough chip top ones.

[2:57:51] » Okay. >> You know, the porest.

[2:57:54] » But if that whole tree goes, we're talking mass mass.

[2:58:00] » So, >> well, I want to get with you then. We

[2:58:02] need both and then make a decision. >> Cuz this is a hefty tree. I 4 and 1/2 ft

[2:58:08] diameter in the bottom. It's a monster.

[2:58:12] » I know they wanted to last time we talked about they wanted to make a bucks

[2:58:15] that had a tree drop, but >> yeah,

[2:58:17] » it was just the limb that was the big issue.

[2:58:20] » And then getting in there is the other thing trying to get up in there, not

[2:58:26] disturbing anybody, >> right?

[2:58:28] » Grave site. So, >> all right. We'll make it up. Yeah, we

[2:58:32] we'll go up there cuz I when I talk to Jeff, he he's fine with it over there as

[2:58:36] long as Cliff and Trish can get home and he can get it now, which the field's

[2:58:40] right there. So, not a big deal. There is a safety issue of so dead I wouldn't

[2:58:47] want to even climb it or rope it because it's going to snap. I don't It's It's

[2:58:52] made up by those carpenter hands so bad. And I don't know. Like you said,

[2:59:00] everybody wants big bucks and it is a big tree, but I mean

[2:59:05] » it's just >> Yeah. And I mean, I've been mowing up

[2:59:10] there when blow and I pass my own and then a limp, you know? I'm like, what?

[2:59:19] It's scary time. So, >> all right. Well, I'll get it if you

[2:59:21] want. >> Okay, we'll get that done. So, anything

[2:59:25] else on there? I didn't see any other damage or anything. Okay.

[2:59:29] » So, Sharon cleaned up a lot of that. Then, um some of the vandalism she took

[2:59:37] care of and and uh got I think um

[2:59:44] I can't say her name. She helped with the preservation St. Genevie.

[2:59:49] You know what I'm talking >> about

[2:59:53] cold >> James

[2:59:55] » J she was lift and replay putting them

[3:00:00] back on the pegs for the time being a lot of them I mean

[3:00:05] the whole graveyard I've noticed land shifting a lot around here and I don't

[3:00:10] know why and we've had a lot of tombstone shift

[3:00:16] and >> didn't you guys have like 12

[3:00:19] of rain at one time or something. >> Is that going to stop?

[3:00:25] » Yeah. And I'm wondering if they just create a void. The graveyard is so hard

[3:00:30] to cuz it caught fire at one time. So the maps are not that great on the old

[3:00:35] side. That's old by aces. So, but the newer side grows

[3:00:42] really fast for some reason. But yeah, it's just it's it's odd how everything

[3:00:49] shipped and even the Didn't you say the big one

[3:00:53] shops? >> Yeah. Made major or

[3:00:57] » How old are those like 1700 1800s? >> They didn't have any vaults. So, you

[3:01:03] know, back then it just >> this is a big

[3:01:08] » it's like a bridge

[3:01:12] [clears throat] and shop was a big name. That was

[3:01:15] Colonel Shaw, wasn't it? Colonel up there

[3:01:26] right there. some colonel shot one of the founders with Roger in

[3:01:31] his town and they're in the very back but that's on

[3:01:36] the Catholic side. I mean he's seen it. So it's a shame.

[3:01:41] » I don't think there's any way to go and sh that up or not.

[3:01:45] » I don't think

[3:01:49] but yeah other than that I mean I haven't haven't heard anything just

[3:01:53] mode. How did you guys today?

[3:01:58] » Okay. I know these guys are working like crazy and I know it's a skeleton crew

[3:02:02] and it's being more efficient and the rain doesn't help with the mowing. Trust

[3:02:08] me, my yards high too.

[3:02:14] » Some people that are mowing don't follow instructions and tell them to raise

[3:02:19] them, right? Yes. >> And they left it low and butcher it out

[3:02:24] here, you know. And it takes twice as much

[3:02:29] time.

[3:02:35] » Yeah, she she did and she break it and then I'm like

[3:02:42] » Yeah, I need to interject something. You guys are talking about Colonel Shaw.

[3:02:46] I've been in my car for 3 and 1/2 hours and I have to take a leak and I have a 6

[3:02:51] and 1/2 hour drive yet. So, can we wrap things up? Okay. Yeah, we're done.

[3:02:57] So, uh, >> thank you.

[3:02:59] » Okay, doc. I'm sorry, buddy. >> All right. Bye. [laughter]

[3:03:08] » All right. Since he's left, we're just going to make a motion.

[3:03:14] » I made all favor. All right.

[3:03:19] » And it goes

[3:03:23] that way. >> All right.

[3:03:26] All right.

St. Mary (Mo, USA) Board of Aldermen, August 20, 2026

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