[0:28] Order of the stands for any service agency, Board of Directors meeting on August 19, 6.30 p.m. at number one country club, drive at the clubhouse.

[0:43] Have a roll call. Wayne will start with you. Wayne V. Nielsen, President. John Wright, President.

[0:51] Kyle Shields here.

[0:53] Brett Palmer is here.

[0:55] Brock Peterson here.

[0:57] Casey Holmes here.

[0:59] Thank you.

[1:00] Casey, can we get you to leave the pledge of allegiance?

[1:14] Nation.

[1:17] With letter P and Justice for all.

[1:24] Thank you.

[1:25] It doesn't want to collect.

[1:26] We have this share of department here.

[1:27] So we'll move on to public comments.

[1:30] There's no public here today.

[1:32] I felt we mentioned.

[1:34] Jim Lanzelka and our office status here with this as well.

[1:40] Seeing that there's no public here, we'll move on from the public comment section and go

[1:46] to the General Manager's updates.

[1:51] I

[1:54] wouldn't hear last time.

[1:56] I just had a question about a couple of public comments.

[2:00] Can I do that now or should we do that later?

[2:10] I'm sorry, let's do review of public comments.

[2:14] Yeah, I skipped over that.

[2:16] Sorry, so Jim's going to talk about that, and then you can ask any questions.

[2:21] Thanks for that.

[2:22] Okay, so Marie Kendall asked about two things.

[2:24] One is the vegetation, one, thirty-six.

[2:27] He stated it's not currently an issue, but maybe a combination of operations is monitoring that.

[2:32] and the guys with the garden, guys will take care of

[2:36] trimming that as necessary.

[2:38] You also asked about the old tennis courts

[2:40] and the burn rose part, currently there are no plans

[2:42] to do any with thing with them, unless the board decides

[2:46] to move on with doing something else with the butt.

[2:49] Right now, we have no plans to.

[2:51] We further each upgrade, we've played as do anything with them.

[2:55] So that's the two comments.

[2:57] John.

[2:59] So, and you may cover, I think you might cover this later when you go over the minutes,

[3:06] you know, for the last meeting, but I ran into this, not literally, but I think it's

[3:16] page and rich, Nielsen, and it was, they were here talking about the trail at the reserve.

[3:23] You guys remember that?

[3:26] From two weeks ago.

[3:27] Two meetings ago.

[3:29] So he's doing...

[3:32] What?

[3:33] Last meeting.

[3:34] Reporting on them.

[3:35] I thought they were from the 15th.

[3:37] My correct.

[3:38] They were from...

[3:40] They weren't here last meeting.

[3:43] Jim was reporting from the prior meeting.

[3:46] I'm sorry.

[3:47] Wrong.

[3:48] Wrong day.

[3:48] Okay.

[3:51] So go ahead.

[3:53] I'll wait.

[3:54] So I was thinking that it was August 5th.

[4:03] Okay, so we're moving to SharePoint, either if you activate it all of the 1 Dropbox

[4:08] Count on the 50, we're going to have to drop on the 25th anyway so she just moved everybody

[4:14] over.

[4:18] There are, we kept one active in case we had a problem with the transfer coming over, but

[4:24] the rest of them are all on chair 1. We've started to do some fiery organization with

[4:29] an inter-point if you notice, if you go on and look at the book, the board and committee's

[4:35] section is no longer under, admin, it's a standalone section and it looks to me it looks

[4:41] a lot cleaner the way it's set up, so we'll start organizing files in that manner.

[4:49] Stance very days, a few comments from Stance very days, the traffic pattern seems to look

[4:54] much better. We scheduled the car show in the vendor access coming in well and that worked

[5:03] pretty well. In spite of some browsing, I think I talked to both the car show and the vendor

[5:08] people after the theft after the thing was in and they said it was fine. golf course took

[5:14] advantage of our new parking lot to help alleviate parking issues. They were actually using golf

[5:23] So that worked well.

[5:26] The parade had 35 entries and we did comment that we might need additional help down there and John talked about bathrooms.

[5:34] Maybe down there.

[5:36] We did block the causeway road just before and remove the block just after the parade.

[5:45] But that seemed to cut down on some of the traffic trying to go through the parade.

[5:51] There were some concerns that the food trucks ran out of food.

[5:54] We're not available later in the evening.

[5:56] There is a dead space between the time and the vendors and the carceral pull out about

[6:01] four.

[6:02] And really, until just before the fireworks start.

[6:07] And so we've tried to fill out a little bit with bands, but there's still a law.

[6:11] And that's when the law of the food trucks leave.

[6:12] because there's not a lot of traffic over here.

[6:16] Those that stayed in pretty well later on in the night,

[6:19] so maybe that world will get around.

[6:21] And the biggest issue we had was the fireworks.

[6:24] There was a communication between the vendors,

[6:28] between the shooter and the office staff,

[6:32] and the fire marshal.

[6:33] And I don't know exactly where that disconnect came in

[6:36] but the vendor came in and assumed responsibility for that.

[6:39] They said, look, we screwed that up.

[6:41] So they did offer some recompense for that.

[6:45] That's what the fireworks look like.

[6:47] Now I've got some good shots of that going on.

[6:52] The vendor did accept full responsibility for the issue.

[6:57] This is our public statement to the Sandsbury community.

[7:01] Our fireworks show on Saturday started 40 minutes earlier than scheduled.

[7:06] We know many of you missed it, and we're truly sorry for the disappointment.

[7:09] this was our error and we take full responsibility to make it right we're offering a

[7:14] drone show at no cost to the community as our way of saying sorry we're also

[7:19] working directly with the organized to address the financial aspects we value our

[7:24] relationship with stands for and help this health dream build trust thank you for

[7:27] understanding.

[7:30] It agreed to forego the remainder of their payment. We pay them in two cycles. One is a upfront payment of half. The second payment, they have said, don't bother to pass that. We screwed it up. We'll accept that responsibility. They did offer the drone show. And they also suggested next year, they have a barge. They suggested maybe we might want to look at anchoring the barge out in the water, and shooting from the barge. They can shoot different ordinance from there.

[8:00] So we'll have to decide if that's the way we want to go for next year's stands, very next.

[8:07] On the operation side, I had a request to sort of clean up who's doing what to who's so basically,

[8:16] if you mow an area, you're going to be responsible for the irrigation on it.

[8:20] So the areas in yellow are now the full responsibility of Gordon and his operations crew.

[8:25] Those are all the way around the golf course.

[8:28] In addition to this, we created a new Costco line.

[8:35] So any work done on those green belts will be captured in a separate Costco.

[8:41] It'll be interesting to see how much that actually takes, because at some point in time

[8:46] you might have to figure out, oh we're spending, say, 500K a year just on those green belts.

[8:52] Maybe if we got rid of them, we'd have a 500K extra year after 4 years you'd have enough to do pool.

[8:59] So there's a cost in those, so.

[9:02] Sure.

[9:06] So with taking the responsibility away from golf or software is not legal.

[9:11] How is static at your distance?

[9:13] We're going to work on golf versus the ground.

[9:16] Yeah, we had a plus up for them that they never used.

[9:20] So we're going to transfer those assets over to operations.

[9:25] Gordon's cruise already mowing that.

[9:27] So it's only the irrigation side that's going to be effective.

[9:32] Can I see your pointers?

[9:36] You want to just pass it out?

[9:38] You want the green one?

[9:38] You want the orange one?

[9:39] Well, that doesn't hurt our eyes.

[9:44] That area right there has never been considered part of the ease.

[9:49] That's always been the golf course.

[9:51] Yep.

[9:51] So here's saying that's now a million dollars.

[9:59] It's just the green belt type of thing right there.

[10:05] So one of the things that

[10:11] I was made aware of quite a while,

[10:15] is that the heads that are in the golf course and or the green belt or the golf course

[10:24] where you don't call.

[10:26] You know, a pretty place, and these are all those hands are like what about $4,500 a day.

[10:31] I think they, and I think $4,60 depending on the head.

[10:34] And so, you know, if we're transferring funds, I mean, I guess we're taking material cost and labor costs over to the wreck side, if you will.

[10:46] Yep, they're correct.

[10:49] And then the other question I had, and perhaps you're going to address it later,

[10:55] somewhere in the minutes I read about the, we have valves that sometimes there's a shut-off

[11:03] is actually in the head itself and that's making it more difficult for them to isolate subsequent

[11:12] areas.

[11:13] My question was, is that our those heads, new heads that we've chosen, we think there's a good

[11:20] And we liked that we thought there was a good idea that it was not for us, they old heads and we got it over time.

[11:26] So those are the golf course heads, they operate in full-time pressure.

[11:33] So they're actuators in the head itself.

[11:37] So we will continue to remain having those.

[11:41] Yep. So it's going to require coordination between Gordon's crew and the golf course to shut down.

[11:49] and that's when they were being there every place.

[11:55] So John, first and background, I asked for this.

[11:58] First thing I want to say is I appreciate Gordon

[12:00] coming to these meetings.

[12:03] He just walked in.

[12:03] I appreciate you being here.

[12:05] That helps.

[12:06] But every one of these, unless it's been changed over years,

[12:09] almost every one of these little inlets

[12:12] are not big rotary heads.

[12:15] Big rotary heads are down there.

[12:17] there. But these are more irrigation rainbird heads, like you see in the common yard. Is that

[12:24] correct Gorgon? I think it's just those that are the big monster heads or just in early

[12:29] in that area.

[12:56] So just so you're, we're not taking huge golf course heads and all those y'all will

[13:01] spots a lot of them. The service agency had smaller heads in originally. So just for some,

[13:11] Yeah, Gordon's things already do in front of drugs.

[13:14] So there has been, what they've done is they've put some isolation valves in these big ones, right?

[13:20] And so you can isolate some of them, but not all of them.

[13:26] So I'll leave right here.

[13:28] How much sprinkler had your bad in there?

[13:31] Well, these, these Gordon's crews already have been working because that's already on his plate.

[13:36] So most of them work.

[13:37] Most of them, there's a couple of green belts I noticed on down at this point.

[13:41] in that they haven't quite fixed, but most of these up on the front, from where you come

[13:46] out from the elementary school and go north, most of all those are fixed. It's with one exception,

[13:53] and I'll talk about that when you get there.

[13:57] So, by taking this away from now, can we

[14:00] one might be able to address working in the golf course, and now with the green belt?

[14:10] We can need

[14:14] it.

[14:14] The three golf course areas that we came into question were these three, these

[14:22] the pretzels across here, this is down towards the west end of the golf course.

[14:28] Green belt too is already on standard rubber pads.

[14:31] And so that when we just had to turn it on and watch it, now those, I don't know about coverage in there, it looks like there's some spots where we're not getting full coverage, so they might have to adjust the heads that are in there.

[14:44] This one is mostly golf course heads and this one is golf course heads.

[14:49] What we saw down in this area was part of them working part of them or not, and these none of them are working because they haven't been working for a while because that's what it looked like.

[15:00] That's about a foot under the soil, bread actually dug this one out. So none of those were working. So we've replaced, I think, between, we shut out in the last week, we shut down this week. I think we've replaced 17 or so heads in that area. Just in the last couple weeks. One of the issues we have is we need to put some partial rotors in and out of those and they don't have any in stock. So we sort of cap some of those until we need to correct rotors in there to do that.

[15:34] This is another one that's interesting.

[15:37] This is along the road from the front is road to the clubhouse.

[15:42] There's a little green building here.

[15:44] There's the basketball court.

[15:46] We dug this one up.

[15:47] This was before last meeting.

[15:50] And found there's valve box in there.

[15:52] But there were no sprinklers attached to that valve box.

[15:55] There's just a valve box.

[15:56] So, who sits dug a pit and we're starting to put sprinklers in that area so we can get water on that particular rebuilds.

[16:06] This was another one that just happened this week on Saturday or Sunday or so.

[16:11] Spid got a call because this guy had a leak in his yard.

[16:15] Spid went over and shut all of his stuff off and nothing quick and it's still leaked.

[16:18] So they called our guy. So we went and looked at the backflow for is right somewhere up here on the rabbit lane.

[16:26] The line flows down here, takes a job goes to this guy's yard and comes across the road.

[16:32] I don't know exactly how it is over here, but I'm assuming it's right here.

[16:36] So in order for us to fix that, we have to dig up this guy's yard.

[16:42] I probably would have fixed that, but I don't want to dig through the road.

[16:44] and then across there.

[16:46] How that got that way, I'm assuming it was put in

[16:49] before they sold the law, to whatever, but.

[16:52] So we dug up this guy's yard and fixed that

[16:54] particular problem area.

[16:57] We're finding that clean stuff all the way through.

[16:59] We have for three or four years,

[17:00] find that stuff all the way through.

[17:02] So I can tell you how bad I have it, when they develop that.

[17:06] This wasn't yet.

[17:07] They were actually the type that they were ready

[17:09] to the water from the homeowners, like we did the link.

[17:11] We came back and said no, but that's why the client's job.

[17:14] almost the whole way down out of district and how we're done because they were going to do water from home owners like they did on the way to the wash.

[17:23] Most of the damage will be that way.

[17:26] That way as you did the streets, we're going to charge up to the houses almost.

[17:30] So sometime in the future if we get time and money, you might want to fix that.

[17:35] But because I don't we're all just digging up guys yards to fix our stuff, I just doesn't like the business.

[17:43] Other actions, the light more we've diverted it from cutting leads to the real light collecting

[17:48] clipping in the coves.

[17:49] That seems to be our biggest station right now.

[17:52] So for about the last week and a half they've been pulling out crap that's drifted into

[17:57] the coves.

[18:00] We've been doing continued residing around the clubhouse for senior areas as we residing

[18:04] where we saw the move. Gordon's working on removing the peer structure off by a whole three.

[18:14] We're looking at fencing at the clubhouse area and I'll talk about that. The last thing

[18:20] that's just came in today, I got a guy looking for water shares.

[18:24] Ward need to start thinking about what we want to sell when we're water shares and what's the process

[18:29] for doing that. Because we are getting continued requests for water shares. They've sold more

[18:36] acreage and lots that are subdividing and there is not water shares available. So you probably

[18:42] need to think, start thinking about how we're going to do that.

[18:45] Okay. Can I ask you a question on that? Go ahead, John.

[18:50] So that peer structure on the pond by hole three, that's the one that crosses south of the

[18:56] Yeah, and well, it's actually about whatever it's something about that

[19:02] We

[19:05] were concerned about people going out there and

[19:09] Fishing off of that. Yeah, that deal. It's not really designed for public use. It was designed for access

[19:17] And we talked about that at the last meeting. So we wanted to remove that. So yes, sorry, just for my clarification

[19:24] And we talk about the wear structure inside of the manhole at Hall 3 Green, or we talk about the concrete structure east of T-Box number 4.

[19:38] East of T-Box number 4.

[19:40] Okay. So if we take down the so-called peer structure there, east of Hall 4.

[19:49] And that makes it difficult for our guys to go in there and monitor the height or the water.

[19:56] Yeah, we'll hide it out there at times so we would just take it out of standard use.

[20:01] We just put it out there when we needed it.

[20:05] So it wouldn't be permanently fixed like it is.

[20:13] When are you sharing your information on food?

[20:15] So far I'm going to use what about it?

[20:17] So yeah, that's why I'm saying we need to quantify how we're going to do that.

[20:22] The individual that called was from development-long bakes, can you?

[20:29] And I wasn't quite on which side.

[20:32] I told them what's on the board on the medium and I'd all just sit there

[20:35] as any appetite for us to look at that.

[20:38] The standard caveat is if we sell water shares,

[20:42] they need to be within our taxing disorder.

[20:45] So if that's my preferred question, it's happening right?

[20:47] We have also water chairs to anybody outside of our taxes, and that's a stipulation to our water chairs.

[20:56] So, is that on the 12th of Cali?

[20:59] Is that standard?

[21:01] There's no, they have to move it from the stands.

[21:03] And they attach to the area.

[21:05] And very area.

[21:06] There's a service agency.

[21:08] That's the only body we can sell to.

[21:11] This one.

[21:11] The body we've chosen to sell to.

[21:12] This one happens to know where that is, right?

[21:15] Hi, Greg.

[21:16] Jake Kleg is selling his property and the developer that wants to purchase it needs water

[21:24] rights.

[21:26] So, in communication with him, his property is currently not inside the service agency

[21:34] boundaries and he knows that that's a requirement for speed to serve that property and

[21:44] need annex into the service agency boundaries, and that's what this water that would be for

[21:52] if the board wanted to make some additional water available for staff.

[22:00] So if I go to that corner piece of property that there's Jake and the vacant chunk, that's what

[22:11] we're talking about.

[22:12] Yeah, there'd be maybe four or five locked subdivision there, plus his house.

[22:18] Well, so it's no longer...

[22:22] Desire not to the school district, and it matters what's presenting, right?

[22:26] Yeah, no, I don't.

[22:27] Jake, Jake.

[22:30] This is the cell property now. He didn't want to wait for a year for that speculation that take place.

[22:37] Yeah, I think the Googlers took a little light, but it's just the time you just didn't come on.

[22:42] If at all. So unless that property becomes my opinion is that unless that property becomes part of Stancebury, we don't sell any water to it.

[22:55] And that's what I like, Jake, you know,

[22:58] and he's just a sweet friend.

[23:00] But we need to keep our water inside of our bathroom.

[23:03] I think that's what we all said.

[23:04] That's what you all said.

[23:05] My worst is that your relationship is a half to be a taxid,

[23:07] that you say because it's not only a good water shirt that the

[23:11] government taxid is seven, then you'd get that piece as well.

[23:14] I think it's our minute.

[23:15] And that we does not make it seven.

[23:17] Hasn't the state of the state that we're talking about.

[23:19] All of the grades.

[23:21] And that state has to change us toward that much of water.

[23:24] We're selling the electricity.

[23:27] I would agree now.

[23:28] Later on in the...

[23:31] Perhaps I should wait till we get there.

[23:33] But later on we talk about trading some water shares for the asphalt.

[23:39] Dry water.

[23:41] Trail.

[23:43] And I'll wait to then because the...

[23:46] Thank you.

[23:47] I obviously missed last time.

[23:50] But the price that we're selling is changed.

[23:53] or I'm trying to understand how we got to do because I obviously missed it.

[23:59] Well, the other thing we talked about was fencing the area, particularly up here, if we're

[24:07] going to rejuvenate this area, you've got to do something to block the traffic.

[24:13] So we had a potential for putting fencing along here, down here, I don't know if I like this

[24:18] side, but maybe across the front area if we want to eventually do that.

[24:22] So we've kind of around to see what's possible.

[24:27] This is, I'm talking about this being there for ever, Jim.

[24:29] Yep, permanent fence.

[24:32] This is what's up at Barely West.

[24:35] I showed that last time.

[24:36] This is another possibility, chain and baller.

[24:39] This is a metal fencing, with a wooden post.

[24:44] And this is some different type of fencing.

[24:46] This is three-year-old fencing.

[24:48] So we got some pricing on what.

[24:50] It would take to put those types of fencing in.

[24:54] For the three rail, a steel, railing, that's $32 foot.

[24:59] So just to do that whole section of the parking lot,

[25:02] that's directly calling this the north section.

[25:08] That 70 foot section would be $2200 for the north area.

[25:15] If we look at the steel and baller,

[25:18] change the chain with the steel ballers just over 2000.

[25:23] The three rail ranch fence would be 1600.

[25:26] Two rail fencing is about 380 bucks.

[25:31] And the boulders are 4200, which is what the previous boards

[25:36] have wanted to do with the boulders.

[25:38] On the one with the chain, what's the gaps?

[25:41] Is it looked like that or is it a big long gap, sir?

[25:49] I've seen those places, I like the two-wheel fence, but so there's some venting to

[25:56] consider when we get to the point where we want to cut that off permanently. The idea is

[26:01] you want to change the traffic pattern so that they're not using that stretch anymore. And

[26:10] That's why I sort of like using this side too.

[26:14] We doesn't need to go all the way to the there,

[26:17] it just do here, but at least that would force people

[26:20] to at least move around the other way.

[26:22] So that pricing you got is that somebody installing it?

[26:28] That's in fault case.

[26:28] And my next question would be based on where

[26:31] all those lines are, there's a lot of sprinklers in there.

[26:35] That's part of them, if they break it, they fix it too, right?

[26:38] Yeah,

[26:41] the idea is to try and avoid that as much as I understand. I'm just I'm asking kill this

[26:46] So maybe we should put a contingency in there for a couple

[26:49] $5 or $6 or $1. That's why I was curious yes some some places will all if I break their sprinklers

[26:54] I fix them some if I drill it and I break it some I problem so they're all coming out without there

[26:59] So it's pretty easy to move

[27:01] Can you go back one picture

[27:05] Yeah

[27:06] Down there where you had the 70 foot number

[27:09] So, that's this more than to the parking lot, so that's my question people from going

[27:15] this way, which is where I see a lot of traffic.

[27:18] This one, I think you almost have to use two because you can see they're curving down and catching

[27:22] the ramp.

[27:23] Yeah, I don't disagree with what you're saying.

[27:27] I have my question here, where the 70 feet number stops on the last car on the right

[27:35] there. That space that goes from there to the edge of the pond, who see right there, might

[27:43] I'm asking, because I don't know, I would anticipate that the individuals would come over

[27:50] the bridge and cut down into their, you know, I'm at the corner. Do you see that that's

[27:57] or am I wrong, it is, they could be wrong.

[28:01] Could we put rocks there and advance the rest or,

[28:05] I mean, we should advance all the way down if we wanted to.

[28:08] Well, I maybe that's all I want to, I'm just asking.

[28:11] But I just did, did it here.

[28:13] It's trying to, you know, think we force and then they come down here.

[28:16] This is on the backside of the hill.

[28:18] So the only way you can see it is on that side of the thing.

[28:21] So I was just trying to alleviate this stretch right in through here.

[28:25] And so I know you don't be a visitor and show this, but from where the 67th, you know, it comes down there and we have

[28:37] the way boards, you know, they're right there.

[28:41] We walked that sidewalk back towards the fellow the Romans, the house over there.

[28:50] It's been my observation that people come down, individuals come down from the daughter's side over there,

[28:59] come there to the roundabout there, and then they cut across kind of like for the 165 foot markerism.

[29:10] That's why I think it's not for the dancers.

[29:13] So how am I going to stop?

[29:15] So you think by having it here, or you're showing it,

[29:19] what's the advantage of it?

[29:20] If this is blocked and that's blocked,

[29:23] then then come down this way that can't get through,

[29:25] they've got to be back around.

[29:26] So more, more, it's more likely to drive them

[29:29] to use the existing site.

[29:32] I'll walk that.

[29:33] I think, OK.

[29:36] I like the chain and the post myself.

[29:39] The baller team, chain.

[29:41] Yeah, I get to.

[29:42] So what do you see here?

[29:43] They're

[29:48] going to feed on it and they're going to, you know, what they're going to, they can't destroy it.

[29:55] Just need to make sure they're secured in the ground really well.

[29:59] That's what they do.

[30:03] This way we end up going. This is the current irrigation pond. This is we've expended all the sulfur we have on hand. This is the current condition of that pond after two to three weeks of treatment.

[30:16] We're arranging for broad torque to come in and hit that with their treatment. So I captured this as sort of a beginning state and I want to see what it looks like after they do the treatment.

[30:29] that we've arranged for them to do this year.

[30:33] So they're good at that treatment.

[30:35] No, they haven't.

[30:37] We had a bunch of sulfur, and I wanted to burn in the sulfur.

[30:40] Because I want the sulfur still sitting around.

[30:43] So we talked about whether to treat it first or have to do the sulfur burn.

[30:47] So we went ahead and did the sulfur burn to see what that looks like.

[30:50] And then we're going to do it.

[30:51] What's the improvement from what obviously this is with the sulfur?

[30:57] Yeah, maxity hasn't seen much.

[30:59] I don't see as much of the milk pond weed or pond weed that we would see it down there.

[31:07] But, you know, we clean that up pretty good before.

[31:10] So, we want to, there's still some in there, so we want to see what it looks like.

[31:14] I mean, you can see it down here under that.

[31:17] Okay.

[31:19] Projects.

[31:21] So, for capital maintenance projects, we're moving along pretty well.

[31:24] So,

[31:26] we did get a significant caught, we got, there was a leak up here in this roof.

[31:33] We did get that fixed fairly cheap leak.

[31:36] This cost right here, there is a leak that runs, where we, under where we have the HVAC systems

[31:43] up there.

[31:44] This is the cost just to repair the decking underneath those HVAC systems.

[31:49] It does not include pulling the age back systems off which is another cost driver so that's going to be significant.

[31:58] We did get a cost to repair this outdoor structure out here by the clubhouse where the door has been knocked off

[32:05] and to substantially build that and rebuild it.

[32:08] That's one that's coming in.

[32:09] We're looking a couple other things to fix as we go along.

[32:15] You spent that repair, I submitted a claim to both Rocky Mountain Power and to U-DOT because I'm not sure who caused that, so we'll see which one of those comes back and says they want to cover that cost.

[32:32] I thought the last time I recall I was talking about the pumps being in there being,

[32:42] you know, just like such power going to.

[32:44] So one of the things that Zimmerman discovered when they were doing that is it looked like the pump size, the VFD on the south side was undersized for the pump.

[33:03] I asked him to check both of those and make sure that we ended up at the right size.

[33:08] VFDs for the right size pump.

[33:11] That should all be fixed once we get that done.

[33:13] So, what is the repair that has to be done?

[33:17] We have to replace the pump.

[33:18] We have to replace one pump and one BFD.

[33:21] We've already replaced all of the breakers that were fried.

[33:25] So is the wiring to the BFD and the pump?

[33:29] Yes.

[33:29] So what we did, we had Zimmerman come out and they brought their own BFD controller to check

[33:37] to see if both pumps work and the BFD's work and all that kind of stuff.

[33:40] So we identified one pump and one DFD, it's one pump.

[33:45] So what do we think?

[33:47] Locking mountains.

[33:49] If they're in agreement, they're fixate.

[33:51] What do we think they're going to do?

[33:53] Well, we hope they would re-versus for the repairs.

[33:59] We got a form to fill out.

[34:01] So I wasn't cost repair.

[34:02] We know that.

[34:03] I didn't know.

[34:04] Are the rest of the lights in the pool of fixability?

[34:07] They are, if you want, to cut under the concrete.

[34:12] How much?

[34:13] Cutting.

[34:14] They have, both of those northern end lights on this side, you'd have to cut the concrete

[34:20] because when they install them, they install them in light weight, aluminum that collapsed

[34:28] over the years.

[34:29] So, you can't pull wires out of the house with them, you have to cut the concrete and pull

[34:34] out.

[34:35] Is that to make a path to cut the concrete as I mean,

[34:41] so the aluminum conduit or the aluminum

[34:45] water, human conduit, which collapsed. If it was, if it was PVC, which they're using now,

[34:55] they would have a chance to be able to add to it.

[34:58] Jim, can I ask a question on the power issue?

[35:04] Did Rocky Mountain Power do something that caused

[35:09] the failures on the VFDs?

[35:12] We don't know where that surge came from.

[35:15] We don't know if it came from the wires being cross-connected when U-DOT was working on the

[35:23] front of the road, because we had to restore that power strip, or if it was some other

[35:29] surge that came from Rocky Mountain.

[35:32] Yeah, they're not going to cover up.

[35:34] Trust me.

[35:36] Well, my initial thought was going to go to U-DOT, but it was suggested we go to Rocky Mountain.

[35:41] Yeah, I mean, I don't know how that doesn't matter which one.

[35:45] Yeah, I'm sure it'll be, well, he did it, well, he did it.

[35:48] Yeah, well, he, well, he, well, yeah, no proof.

[35:50] So yeah, exactly.

[35:54] On the golf course remodel, I see that you have an expense in here.

[35:59] Is that started?

[36:02] I have a remodel golf course bathroom, 17.

[36:05] Yes, that's done.

[36:06] That's done.

[36:08] He said that last time.

[36:11] On the text.

[36:13] I didn't come through my phone.

[36:17] Yeah, that's down there.

[36:19] And I sent everybody out there in the world to look at it.

[36:22] Make sure they're happy with it.

[36:23] So if anybody hasn't been playing talk to the golf course crew and Gordon's crew and whoever

[36:28] they've all been out there.

[36:29] Yeah, I got nothing.

[36:32] Did we...

[36:33] He must have kept me here.

[36:34] He'd go back one more.

[36:36] Okay.

[36:38] The item 16 priority, 16 to be at the onboard world.

[36:41] It was a report in the minutes that indicated that probably this week we were going to start

[36:48] group placed at the end.

[36:49] That's done.

[36:50] That's done.

[36:51] Thank you.

[36:52] Both the VFD and the folk controller replaced on it, so Brett, you saw them install that, you're

[37:02] okay with this.

[37:03] I saw that they were there, I haven't been in the building or anything, I don't know what

[37:08] they've done.

[37:08] So a lot of this stuff we will, like the BFD, we will submit to a lot of smart to see if we get a rebate.

[37:16] We've got some rebates on other stuff that we've done.

[37:19] We got about a $1,500 rebate on the HVAC we did over on the club on the pro shop, so Sean's pretty good.

[37:30] Repeatedly applying for those. Okay, being out some capital maintenance side. Capital projects side, two big issues here, the bridge and let's talk about that in more detail.

[37:51] The other driving force is the poor way of evolving them.

[37:55] This grant, grant $30,000 grant, we got for that rent out in November.

[38:00] So we have to get cracking on fixing that.

[38:04] So that's probably the next one aren't playing together.

[38:11] The Milpaan Bridge, we were out there with the MEI today.

[38:17] They drill under the, under the, under the mope on, and the guys came out to run the wire through it, they can't find the end of the pipe.

[38:27] We think it's under the patio out in front of spit.

[38:31] So they're going to probably come in and re-drill that hole so they can get the wires through the, through under the, under the pond.

[38:40] Reavely, as providers of scope work to complete the injury and plan set, we also told them

[38:46] that we'd like to get an engineer's cost estimate and good one.

[38:50] We are also looking at other sources to see what their thoughts are on,

[38:54] cost of the bridge, cost to complete the plan set and all that.

[39:00] So once we've got a little standoff because they're going to have to go back and work on the

[39:09] We need to get that in place.

[39:12] I do not think we will be able to execute that this year.

[39:15] I think we need to plan in place and maybe a contractor identified

[39:19] but the work will probably have to be in the spring next year.

[39:23] So we will be probably the bulk of that funding to 27.

[39:29] Fire suppression is over in the pro shop and John indicates

[39:34] that they might need to coordinate with SPID, they're upgrading the back, adding the back

[39:38] clothes and doing stuff over there, so we need to coordinate with SPID to get some checks

[39:43] down on that system before they move forward with the rest of the people in that area.

[39:50] In fact, the project Soundwall Trail, we have petitioned you dot to review both the funding

[39:56] and the schedule that will happen in a, there's a September period, also been coordinating

[40:02] with the tool accounting, their question was Hawaii is either you or tool accounting paying for

[40:09] that trail. That's a U-Dont trail. And that was a good question. So they've gone back to U-Dont

[40:14] and asked why they aren't funding the whole project with their trail money. They're getting

[40:18] about 50 million a year to do trail projects. And that trail happens to be on the U-Dont

[40:24] trail project list. So they've gone back and asked for us, can you guys fund this?

[40:31] Since it really came through to all accounting, so we're seeing what they can do with that effort.

[40:38] Milpine Park, I think we're about done with that plan set, so we can get ready for a submission.

[40:45] When I finally get all this together, we'll hold a meeting and look at that and make sure we've got all the questions answered on that plan set.

[40:52] But we did send out a new guy's blue line down sculpted plan for Oscars New Park.

[40:59] I don't know if anybody seen that or reviewed it, we also need to review that to decide

[41:03] where we want to go with that particular.

[41:08] Finance is, so this is where we are in finances for, as of the end of July.

[41:15] This looks extremely high, you would want to keep reminding me that there's a number of

[41:20] a pot of money in here that needs to be moved back into 25, but the others have not moved

[41:28] that back yet, so this looks artificially high. They're still going to finish significantly

[41:32] ahead of the revenue. As is the golf course, behind is the park and racks because we lost

[41:41] some of the, they don't have a lot of funding, but they most of there's come from sports

[41:46] seen during us.

[41:49] Football's told us they're not coming in this fall, so that costs us some revenue there,

[41:54] not a major effect, and the pool did not meet their goals, but they are closer than I

[42:04] thought that might be giving back a desert to be going down.

[42:07] Did you share that one more time about football?

[42:09] Football is not using our fields this year.

[42:13] Really?

[42:13] They go play in the street.

[42:14] They are playing at the gym.

[42:16] It's junior high.

[42:21] That's a good luck.

[42:24] So I can try that for season two and nineteen.

[42:28] I'm either way it's fine.

[42:30] So football is pretty hard on the field.

[42:32] So on the pool, Jim,

[42:36] do you have a five as to why we had the variation from the

[42:50] I think that's a lot of the impact and I'll talk about that more detail when I get down to the dirt.

[42:58] So there's our general revenue line. It looks pretty consistent that we're continuing to grow the general revenue.

[43:05] This is the general government line.

[43:07] I'm showing that we're at a hundred and ninety two k over our projection right now.

[43:11] It looks like we'll end up only about 125K over, so there's a significant drop there, primarily because of reclassification of funds.

[43:22] And golf course revenue is continuing to drive better than they were projected to do.

[43:29] This is the pool revenue, so you can see this as a 50th August of fairly current.

[43:36] Most of the revenue is probably in on the pool at this point in time.

[43:42] We did well on the lessons and the teams.

[43:46] Concessions was a little low, I think there's a pricing issue here.

[43:51] So we'll work on that next year.

[43:53] Party mental was a little low, but not too bad.

[43:56] It's probably pretty consistent with what we're seeing.

[44:01] The daily admission non-resident was down significantly.

[44:05] as was the overall revenue in most cases.

[44:11] The only thing that picked up was punch cards.

[44:14] It's interesting because that was one

[44:17] of the worst segments back in June.

[44:20] And come July.

[44:21] We started to see a lot more punch cards with purchases.

[44:24] Didn't we have a, wasn't there like a two week time

[44:27] frame in June or something when we were struggling

[44:29] with the boarders back or forth?

[44:30] One week, we missed one week only.

[44:33] And that week was a week that was scheduled for training anyway.

[44:37] So we wouldn't have had to pull up and what in effect it was lessons because we've

[44:41] lost one session of the lessons because we haven't had time to fit them all in.

[44:47] But the lessons we've covered nicely, they're over their projections.

[44:51] So we probably would have been done better, although we didn't notice the last lesson

[44:55] session was pretty long compared to the other two.

[44:58] Um

[45:00] But I think what we were seeing is, and I got a lot of feedback that people went out to desert peat and they said, yeah, it's really nice, but they liked the community board on me on.

[45:13] So we've seen, we saw a lot of that track back. It looked like we saw a lot of that track back, and that's why we saw the increase in the punch cards at the end of the season.

[45:23] So that would be my analysis that we'll probably see a slight increase next year.

[45:29] I think we'll still see less revenue from non-resident emissions because our non-resident

[45:37] emissions are slightly higher than the district peaks standard.

[45:40] This year we've got open school on Sundays, right?

[45:45] I'm not, I don't care when we're together, I'm just asking.

[45:51] Do you think did we have a lot of part of that on Sunday's, we were open for partying?

[45:58] So, already one of us is open in a way.

[46:00] The only thing we didn't open to was Sunday's, was general admission.

[46:05] The reason we didn't do that, we didn't open it is because in past years we didn't analysis.

[46:11] And Sunday's, we did not even pay for the lifeguard on Sunday's Sunday.

[46:15] And I'm fine with that decision, I just was curious if that's fine.

[46:21] I don't get one question about opening on Sunday.

[46:25] Sorry.

[46:26] Sorry.

[46:26] What happened in 2023?

[46:29] 2023.

[46:30] We were down for three weeks because we had to boil it as soon as we were able to replace the boilers.

[46:35] So we missed a lot of the revenue upfront in here.

[46:40] We lost a lot of the less in time.

[46:42] The other thing, remember, is that we didn't have swim teams going on back then.

[46:47] And these two years are artificially high because doesn't our peak was not.

[46:52] Because our peak was not open.

[46:55] So we were picking up maybe 10 to 20% actually because of the desert peak.

[47:03] So I think this is more standard what you're going to see.

[47:10] Total expenses.

[47:13] Everybody's running under their expense lines, which is good in some ways bad because it means we didn't get the numbers and skill set of people we were looking for this year, particularly on parks and not so much on golf, but pretty much on parks.

[47:33] Pool bit better than we thought on cost, but they are still going to be collecting costs.

[47:39] Even though the revenue will mostly be done because we'll have a close out and we've got some after season of parasitives.

[47:47] So we may become closer to the projected budget for them for expenses.

[47:55] Cost curve for the golf course, their expense line is running under the budget projections,

[48:02] partially because we didn't hire everybody they were looking for.

[48:05] And partly because in the pro-shop, we were done, we had two less people than we projected

[48:13] drawing benefits.

[48:15] It's not worked out, I mean, if they had it.

[48:20] They were, rather, it's Doug's decision, you know,

[48:22] we thought we'd need it to more people that are,

[48:25] we cooperated with two last, is that still efficient,

[48:28] and we still got it.

[48:29] Yeah, one of the problems was we lost our second pro,

[48:34] second, all the systems.

[48:35] Oh, yeah.

[48:35] We lost it.

[48:36] Right.

[48:37] So we just hired a replacement.

[48:39] He's been working without benefits so far,

[48:42] We're looking at giving him benefits in a full-time status next year.

[48:47] Let's see, have the potential to become a priority.

[48:50] Yes.

[48:52] Yes.

[48:54] This is just a little expensive versus revenue.

[48:58] My aim for the golf course now that we have some data in.

[49:01] Right now we are, this is revenue side.

[49:06] We're head of revenue.

[49:07] We've got 800K of revenue and only a hundred and two expenses.

[49:11] But what's going to happen is somewhere down the end of the year, this revenue line will

[49:16] tail off and the expense line will continue to drive forward.

[49:20] We will end up, this was 1.7, and this was projected to be just over a million.

[49:26] So we end up with more revenue and less expenses than we projected in the original budget.

[49:31] So that's going to draw closer.

[49:33] I think this revenue line might even keep up higher than me.

[49:38] This is parks. This is the current projection based on if we see standard costs throughout the rest of the year.

[49:49] I don't think we'll follow this line. I think we're more likely to follow this trend line.

[49:53] But there are submitted to your purchases like we're stalking of irrigation equipment that will drive this up.

[50:00] I don't think we'll get here, but we'll come in somewhere.

[50:04] That's it.

[50:09] Thanks, Jim.

[50:12] Let's see, next order of business is discussion of the Jim job description qualifications

[50:19] in higher in process.

[50:22] You can take that down, you will be.

[50:23] So, I apologize for messing us, and then it's right, last week, whenever.

[50:32] I have seen

[50:35] documentation that I believe everybody has received with their packet.

[50:40] We'll talk about the job responsibilities.

[50:43] We'll look like they're white and blue and white.

[50:46] And it's just a good bowl of points on there, and just qualifications and things of that nature.

[50:55] When we were working on developing the policy for the hiring and general manager, we spent

[51:03] many, days, weeks going over that, what should be, I think everybody has access to them

[51:11] to comment.

[51:13] I mean, Jim was kind of the chairman over that particular item in the end of the Sander.

[51:19] And you can see a number of the questions one back before, and it gives a lot of strong debate

[51:28] as to what was going to be, get us the best person for a new general manager and what you are seeing

[51:39] in my opinion, what you're seeing there on the sheet that's blue and white and are the summary of the items

[51:46] that are in the common sheet, and I think that it points forward to, I think those are the

[51:53] way the things we have to be doing along those lines.

[52:00] There are some steps that you

[52:04] Yeah, you got some steps, one, two, three, four.

[52:08] I think they're five, six, something I'd like to use that are less than, and those

[52:16] items right there coincide pretty closely with all the items that we talked about in developing

[52:24] the policy.

[52:25] So that we would find the very best qualified candidate for...

[52:32] If you look down through those items,

[52:37] you've already, in my opinion, you've already accomplished, I think last time you have, you've already done one, two, and under three, I think you've already done and got down to either four or five, four, I guess.

[52:53] And so John, I know those are the requirements, I'm sorry, I'm a mystery, and if you go over to the next one, I'm going to roll some responsibilities, I'm sorry, if you go over to those first four or five items, they're listed there, you've already gotten down through, I don't know, four, and you have prepared with this document here, you have prepared a method to be able

[53:25] go out to the public and ask for applicants.

[53:31] I think there are a couple of items that you may want to discuss on the role of responsibilities

[53:41] and if you go down, you know, and it goes over the step five and talks about that.

[53:46] One of the things that, if you go over the five, if you want to skip a little bit, you know,

[53:54] chair of the John Ward chair of the service agency you.

[54:02] I'm going to say none of us have that document in front of us.

[54:06] Thank you.

[54:08] Okay.

[54:08] I thought you guys will have one.

[54:10] I just have one.

[54:11] I have one.

[54:12] I have one.

[54:12] I didn't magically do this.

[54:18] Do you guys not see this?

[54:25] It kind of starts like this.

[54:30] Yeah, I guess we should all have it, because there's a mic packet.

[54:35] So I just can say Jim had that on that, I'm not sure he's following along with your job.

[54:42] So this is what I've read last time, and basically we've sort of combined a lot of these steps.

[54:49] So we're basically at seven, which is the facilitation of how we're going to move forward.

[54:56] the one thing we really did, we really sort of skipped.

[55:00] But I think John was trying to point out,

[55:02] was five that we really didn't discuss a lot about,

[55:07] the staffing of the cost, the schedule proposal,

[55:09] and that kind of stuff.

[55:10] So I figured we would pick that up in the discussion today.

[55:15] So that's fine.

[55:16] So we're really at the steps seven.

[55:19] If the board approves the hiring process

[55:22] And job posting the next step would be for the clerk to post it and collect the applications.

[55:32] So that's sort of where we are.

[55:34] And then the next step is to decide how you're going to handle those applications that come in at a quarter of the score.

[55:44] So, there was a case that was supposed to come in and they were supposed to, we were going

[55:50] to have them come into the clerk, England.

[55:55] And she was make sure that all the applications met the basic qualifications, the qualifications

[56:03] were up there.

[56:04] And if they didn't meet those qualifications, they'd be set aside.

[56:07] And we would start to deal with those activities, the qualifications, and then go

[56:11] to start going through the interview process

[56:15] and the other steps that are listed there.

[56:18] I think it's really important, guys, in there.

[56:20] You guys, I'm probably a feature of preaching

[56:23] to the choir, but previous to this administration,

[56:30] being in place,

[56:39] the previous three general managers

[56:40] did not do a really good job.

[56:42] And you can throw rocks at me all day long, whatever,

[56:45] I don't care.

[56:45] But I want you to understand, this is not like operating a TTA company cell and that's the way they were doing it.

[56:57] And we now have a lot of policies in place, we've got to maintain the right kind of individual here, this is not,

[57:08] this is an important business.

[57:09] We are operating and overseeing nearly $6 million of the business down for some of us.

[57:18] That's small business for some of us is a big business, but we've got to make sure that

[57:25] the people that we

[57:29] accept applications from, that we get that kind of guy, we are a person.

[57:38] And they need to be well qualified, and that's some of the things that are listed right there in the qualifications.

[57:49] Some of you may or may not be aware that it wasn't too long ago.

[57:54] We took a $1.3 million hit because somebody wasn't paying attention to care of business.

[58:01] And it was money out of our pocket, right out of our pocket.

[58:04] And you could say, well, well, you've got the money back from the insurance, yeah, some.

[58:11] But at the same time, it had not been tracked.

[58:18] It wasn't the general manager of the thought of it.

[58:21] So I just, I want, I would hope that you would look at this extremely seriously.

[58:31] that it spent a lot of time trying to make sure that we were going to maintain the high quality

[58:40] operation and with high quality people. I hope that you think that that's, you know, if we need to

[58:48] do that, that's our business is growing and then you can see all of the financial information

[58:56] that is now provided that wasn't provided for years ago.

[59:01] And it's making us a better operation.

[59:06] A lot of people depend on what the hell we do here.

[59:10] You know, we meet twice a month and we,

[59:14] and I think we work pretty hard to make sure that everything works right.

[59:19] And the guidelines that the policy committee put forward

[59:23] is to try to help us stay there and find the right people and move forward in that regard.

[59:30] So anyway, if you have, if you don't have access to this at all, it just came to my

[59:40] packet.

[59:40] I thought everybody would be there.

[59:42] So good ideas, you know, I'd like to tell Jim kind of went through this with us last

[59:48] and the policy committee has spent hours, hours, hours, hours arguing and debating and bringing this before the board.

[1:00:00] The issue that I have is that pretty much prior until last meeting that the Board members have really seen it or approved it or anything.

[1:00:14] I think that we've done most of us have had comments. We've all had the opportunity to comment on job description.

[1:00:26] And I think that we are missing a few steps last meeting we asked for, I guess my point is I think if we're going to follow this the board ought to approve it.

[1:00:44] Because last, last meeting we said these are great, but we haven't really had it

[1:00:49] chasted, I just didn't say his, this exactly what we want.

[1:00:54] Without any input and so I think it's, at this juncture, it's a good guideline, but maybe

[1:01:05] we need to have discussion amongst the board to say if we're going to go this direction

[1:01:11] And we ought to prove it.

[1:01:13] And I'm okay with that.

[1:01:15] As you know, we got hung up on some procedural issues.

[1:01:21] And that's why I didn't get brought before the board.

[1:01:23] This has been ready since I'm going to say February.

[1:01:27] It's not before.

[1:01:28] So I'm okay with that.

[1:01:32] If I'm just concerned that if we take too long to do this,

[1:01:42] The dates that we're trying that somebody who put forth will be difficult to hit.

[1:01:50] But nevertheless, it can be done.

[1:01:54] If we get the right comments, we don't forget the comments to come back.

[1:01:57] The alternative might be that we take this one as it is, okay?

[1:02:04] And follow it with the pure intent of saying,

[1:02:08] Okay, whenever we pick GM, the next one, get input from us six or five, whatever, and

[1:02:22] give me the direction, John will fix this, we don't like this or whatever, but at least

[1:02:27] keep us moving right now so that we can, in fact, find us in the general manager, because

[1:02:34] I'm asking you to trust me what I put here

[1:02:40] wasn't adversarial, wasn't that there was

[1:02:44] it was put there with the board members and the people who were on the policy committee.

[1:02:53] They were done in the best of what's best for stands before.

[1:02:58] It was the best for me or any of them on the guys and that would help us to move forward

[1:03:06] right now.

[1:03:07] I'm happy to go back and fix this.

[1:03:10] I feel on my face, I'm guaranteed, you know, I've had some difficulties in June and July

[1:03:16] and August.

[1:03:19] I hope that got things to work around and I take it, you know, we can improve it.

[1:03:25] Wayne?

[1:03:25] What's the bare minimum we need to do tonight so we can post tomorrow?

[1:03:30] We can't post tomorrow. Well, I won't say you can't post tomorrow, but I think there are a couple of topics on here

[1:03:37] That's what I'm asking like what's stopping us. So my question I guess it's first on the top of the night

[1:03:43] I don't necessarily agree with it

[1:03:46] I think the way it reads one time is to be like

[1:03:48] My eyes and talks about we're supposed to have a gentleman and actually see you

[1:03:56] CTOs don't actually be responsible for daily operations, that's what we've got all five staff.

[1:04:01] That's great.

[1:04:02] Right?

[1:04:03] I'm expecting a general manager to be out there doing what some of these languages.

[1:04:07] So these contractions put together by the so we don't spend six months waiting time,

[1:04:12] but they have to job at the beginning before.

[1:04:14] We just shut down the trouble,

[1:04:16] because it came in $1.1 dollars.

[1:04:19] You know, two times a row we've been presented in Auschwitz and Part for 3.2,

[1:04:22] And now it's going to increase to 3.7, without a parking lot, and now they decide to go there.

[1:04:29] I want to jam and focus you on that stuff, not operations, but those guys,

[1:04:33] give them the tools to support the staff, to do their job.

[1:04:39] I don't think so.

[1:04:40] So these work put on here says that that's the need, can't be that person.

[1:04:49] I don't think that's what's wrong.

[1:04:51] I understand what you are asking to find.

[1:04:55] And I think that that person could be found during the interview process.

[1:05:00] But it is, the person sits in this particular general manager position.

[1:05:09] That's where a number of different hats of might be.

[1:05:11] Correct.

[1:05:12] And then he starts with him being the CEO and that he is more than in response to the

[1:05:18] old original power.

[1:05:19] In constant reaching out beyond our scope basically, he's operations, his staff is operations.

[1:05:26] So many people are actually involved with other projects that he was responsible for.

[1:05:34] So he's the CEO.

[1:05:36] Okay.

[1:05:36] So he's got a staff?

[1:05:38] So I guess I'm not quite understanding if I mean I think you can find that kind of person

[1:05:44] through your view process, but I guess I'm not quite understanding what when you say

[1:05:50] he's the operations deal with you.

[1:05:53] You're saying that's what he is now.

[1:05:55] He's our general leader, right?

[1:05:56] He's supposed to be easy to get.

[1:05:58] Okay.

[1:05:59] We should be talking to him and he should be talking to us now.

[1:06:02] And I think that's what I think that I guess I would disagree but go ahead.

[1:06:14] I talk to him, he talks to his staff by the

[1:06:20] way.

[1:06:20] I mean I'm not.

[1:06:21] I don't give any direction to any of this.

[1:06:24] There.

[1:06:25] I mean if that's what you're saying.

[1:06:28] You should be taken on projects.

[1:06:32] If they don't get by the general management.

[1:06:37] Do you want to go from four members to take it on operational duties?

[1:06:42] I'd like to give you the general manager if you want to deal with your staff.

[1:06:45] What do I do?

[1:06:50] Okay, so, Brock, if you have things that you want to have added to that, we've all seen it.

[1:06:57] Go ahead and put your comments in there that you would like to have added in there.

[1:07:03] Casey, what so brought, because we're on this discussion and we're talking about this,

[1:07:09] what are your thoughts and feelings on this process that the policy committee is worked on?

[1:07:43] Okay, so with regard to this policy or view guidelines,

[1:07:57] is this something that you're in favor of following to a T or just using it as, let's do the best we can, get this advertised, what are your thoughts?

[1:08:07] So I think, I think there's a happy medium in there of most of the policy stuff is in place,

[1:08:16] but to the same token, I agree with Wayne,

[1:08:21] like, how many times have you extended?

[1:08:24] Being the GM, just one.

[1:08:27] I think we are to a point of we have to get down what we want,

[1:08:33] And if we can follow the guidelines great, but there might be some of those little areas where policies not quite totally square, and it's like, okay, we're going to we're going to make this little amendment here, and I think we can do that as the board we can make that little directive, but I think the policies mostly there, I mean like John said that since February, I think it was pretty much kind in there and we got hung up on some other stuff.

[1:09:03] But following it to the T, I don't think we need to do that right out of the door, but there's some pretty good guidelines we can look at.

[1:09:11] And obviously there's other concerns that's only been three of us, and Brock brings up the super valid concern, right?

[1:09:16] I mean, that's valid to, we may need to define this a little bit better of what his responsibilities are in the posting.

[1:09:26] but that doesn't necessarily,

[1:09:30] I think that's our prerogative.

[1:09:31] If I remember in the policy, that listed it's our prerogative to take and take from the board

[1:09:38] on what we want the qualifications to be.

[1:09:42] So I'm in the opinion that I think we need to get posted because I think personally you could put

[1:09:49] somebody sitting alongside Jim for four months and they're still going to take the job

[1:09:53] January and run around with their head cut off because it's six million dollars and they don't

[1:10:00] know how to do certain things that we do here and it's four hundred plus acres and they've got

[1:10:05] to figure out, you know, okay, Gordon is really good at this and actually good at this and

[1:10:10] I just don't think that comes real quickly. I think it really takes most people, especially

[1:10:18] somebody that's managing others whether it be Jim, Gordon Mac, it takes six months to kind of

[1:10:23] understand your guys and hey I can trust it's gotta go do this. So that's my opinion I think

[1:10:28] we need to get somebody in here sooner rather than later I don't think we can keep driving our feet

[1:10:35] that's just like two cents I think we're going to get hose in the gym all retired and then we'll

[1:10:39] have no Jim and then we're trying to figure something out. Wayne wondering your thoughts on this.

[1:10:46] I think we need a post and start seeing what's out there and because there's a time limit.

[1:10:58] I don't want to wait another two weeks to make discussions and stop.

[1:11:03] The first blue sheet pretty good.

[1:11:06] I'd like to agree with everything on it and step at that.

[1:11:11] I think we set up a committee and start fishing and see who's out there.

[1:11:19] Okay.

[1:11:20] Kyle?

[1:11:23] Um, if Brock has something once to add, let's add it.

[1:11:27] Let's get it.

[1:11:28] If host, let's go.

[1:11:30] I think this is a great guideline.

[1:11:32] I agree with John.

[1:11:35] I think this, this time, use it as guidelines, and let's do this.

[1:11:45] Okay, so, Jim, if you'll put this out again for people's comments to comment,

[1:11:55] if any of us have any comments that need to be added, let's do that,

[1:12:00] and then let's get the job posted here.

[1:12:03] same way given the situation of our aim. Do you think that we could do it quickly? I mean instead of waiting.

[1:12:16] It's quite expensive. It's probably supposed to be in the job. Well, I'm just trying to help you. I'm just trying to help us get going.

[1:12:23] I'm just trying to help us get going. I'm just trying to help us on this.

[1:12:26] But get them in there before you get them.

[1:12:28] to get more calmness. It's just going to squeeze you down. You either want to take things that happen.

[1:12:35] You're not going to get a post of what you think you can and you're just going to have to extend out there.

[1:12:39] And that's okay too.

[1:12:41] Please look further down the road.

[1:12:44] I guess my point is, it doesn't take that long to get a close-up.

[1:12:49] So just what

[1:12:54] timeline do you want to have on the receiving comments?

[1:13:00] by Tuesday.

[1:13:08] That schedule says,

[1:13:12] yeah, that schedule starts tomorrow,

[1:13:16] or tomorrow.

[1:13:19] And if

[1:13:25] you could live with what you have,

[1:13:28] you can exercise and go now.

[1:13:36] Well, I think the schedule right there,

[1:13:38] if that's not what you want and don't do.

[1:13:42] I would say it's important to get rocks and put, so Brock, if you could or anybody just make your comments, get them back to Jim by tomorrow morning.

[1:13:52] By tomorrow morning.

[1:13:55] These comments, these comments were sent to us last week to respond.

[1:14:00] I don't.

[1:14:01] Other issues that are coming out.

[1:14:02] So every week it seems to be 9 months one.

[1:14:04] Brock has a lot of time in your months.

[1:14:06] How much time do you need?

[1:14:14] I'm okay.

[1:14:14] Sounds good.

[1:14:16] So,

[1:14:19] you guys are

[1:14:29] just letting me fly out of that?

[1:14:34] Yeah, because you're so, you're so, you understand, and maybe you do.

[1:14:40] You know, we've always, we've always taken the comments of committee and put them, you know,

[1:14:46] I'll just shoot right here.

[1:14:48] And then we adjudicated and we talked about them and we say,

[1:14:51] Does this make sense?

[1:14:53] No, John's up on the night over this, but I've been doing that a while.

[1:14:56] And, you know, and Brett, Brett was there.

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