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Good afternoon, everyone and members.
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We're going to go ahead and begin while everybody starts taking their way in.
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They're one of those, sure.
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For today's consideration of the bills, we're gonna be holding SB 1131.
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And we will start with, in the order of bills SB 104074,
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1423 and 1754.
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So that'll be the Order of The Bills.
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And represent the student, will you please move the first bill, bill SB 1074.
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Do things differently here.
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Thank you, Madam Chair, and with the SB10, so for the return of the due pass recommendation.
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Okay, Justin, can you face it by the vote?
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Madame Vice Chairman, Senate Bill 1024 stipulates that if a teacher moves a student from a classroom according to student.
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conduct rules, a principal or administrator may direct a student to return to the classroom only if the principal
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or administrative provides the teacher a written certification that states the
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principal
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or administrators authorizing the student be readmitted and that describes any
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disciplinary action taken in response to students behavior with that. I'm available for questions members any questions for Jasmine
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Seeing none. Okay.
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I think I saw Mr. Kevin or senator Kevin outside if he's ready
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Thank you
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Welcome Mr. Senator Kavanagh, we're ready to ready for your bill SB 1074
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Okay, sorry I got way laid
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Constituent there number one of course. Thank you members
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one the leading
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courses of losing teachers is
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Burnout and one other causes of burnout is that they don't feel that. They're supported by the administration
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And this bill attempts to address a small part of that.
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When a teacher refers a student for discipline to the principal,
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then the teacher should expect that the principle will do something.
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And at their every least, the teachers should know when the student gets back,
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that student did in fact go to principal and what happened.
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You know, we do this for crime victims, that the voters amended the state constitution to say that victims have a right to be informed in all steps of a court process where they were a victim.
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Well, this simply says that teachers should be told what was the result of the disciplinary referral that they made?
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Was it even dealt with?
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Let's make teachers feel a little bit more wanted and respected and
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we'll lose less of them, and I stand for any questions.
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Thank you.
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Members?
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Thank You Mr. Chairman, Senator Cavanaugh.
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Have you spoken directly with teachers and they come to you to ask for this bill?
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No.
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Teachers have not come direct, I'm sorry, Mr Chair.
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No, however, any teachers who want to speak to me, my door is always open.
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I speak the teachers, but none have seen fit to discuss this Bill with me.
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Madam Chair, while I am a teacher and I know that a lot of the issues that we have when
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you have a child that is being disruptive is that there is a
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deeper something going on.
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So I'm interested in knowing why you haven't proposed a bill
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that teachers and staff and educators would be interested
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in doing such as like hiring more mental health
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and psychologists to be able to help those students get
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to the root of the issue so that the disruption
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in a classroom can just be can be permanently gone rather
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than just removing them for the moment.
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And I have done that over the years. We've increased funding for counselors and safety officers and schools in jail.
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I've been there 20 years, we put a lot of money into those type of things. So I done
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that. But this is a matter of respecting you as a teacher. You should not be left out of the loop.
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You shouldn't know what's happening with your students. Don't you agree?
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Madam Chair.
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Please proceed.
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Yeah, I know that there's usually a route to why a child is acting out and as a teacher,
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it's my job to have that communication with them and be able to talk to them about it.
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And I, in the past, have not had an issue with my principle in that regard.
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And it is interesting to me that you would propose a bill that
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you have now once spoken to teachers about or nor did they ask you to present this bill.
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So, without a matter.
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referral. Do you think they should be told that? Would you like to be
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told? And I'm sure I am not answering questions right now anymore. Thank you.
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That's I think it is much thank you for answering itself. Any more questions? No
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we can't move on to the speakers. All right thank You Madam Chair. We're with
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again with we'll have two agains we have a solo blog with Arizona Education
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You'll have two minutes.
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Two minutes, okay.
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Celebrant with the Arizona Education Association, so we are here to express the concerns with Senate Bill 107.4.
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It's a solution looking for a problem.
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So there's the quote off and attributed by Einstein.
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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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I say this because this will reflect that pattern.
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Variations of this proposal have been introduced before and yet it is the Amazon Department of Education who continues to introduce the bill.
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and has yet to actually speak with the Arizona Education Association.
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You know, there's claims that they want to help educators and we do appreciate the attempt of trying to
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help and support educators. But again, this ongoing exclusion highlights a
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deeper disconnect, particularly in how we address the court issues related to discipline in our schools.
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Let me be clear, removing a student from a classroom
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Already happens and this is not the right solution. Educators already know when removal is necessary.
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The real issue is what happens next. How that student receives a behavioral emotion on academic support they need to successfully return to learning.
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Senate Bill 1074 does not address that.
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Instead it prioritizes a procedural punitive approach that ignores root causes and
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fills both students and educators.
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And with all kindness and respect to Mr. Kavanaugh, he noted that when we're in a criminal defense that we should know,
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and that was very kind of inappropriate because students are not criminals.
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Sometimes, as we know classrooms are under extreme strain.
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There is, this is the 10th year of teacher shortage, and when I see teacher
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shortage I'm talking about the qualified educators who went to school who learn
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how to do management, classroom management all the things. Schools, you
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know, it should be implementing discipline, positive things, I am just
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going to end with this.
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A lot of times when a student leaves the classroom and goes to admin,
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oftentimes the educator may not know what is happening in a child's life because of FERPA.
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And educators and administrators cannot violate FerPA, and for those reasons we stand opposed to Senate Bill 1074 and I stand for questions.
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Thank you. Any questions, members?
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No, thank you, you said.
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Thank You.
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Okay, we'll go with Jay Kupresse.
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And you will have two minutes.
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Madam Chairman and members of the committee, my name is Jake Rosie here today on behalf of
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the Arizona Charter Schools Association with a little bit different opposition to this bill.
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We may even concede that this may be best practices and for how to manage that classroom.
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However, it is our position that these kind of classroom management.
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discipline and administrative questions should be left to the individual charter school into the
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individual school. We are concerned by the number of mandates that we that
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we are seeing more and more commonplace to address what are likely limited issues.
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We don't fault the notion of trying to apply best practices,
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but we don t feel that statute is the appropriate place to
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micromanage these key functions of schools.
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I'm happy to answer any question.
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Members, any questions?
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Seeing none, thank you, Mr. Caprosi.
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Thank you.
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Next speaker.
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We're going to go with the Camilla.
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Strong.
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So Camilla, sorry.
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Thank you.
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Welcome to two minutes as well.
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Madam Chair, members of the Education Committee, my name is Camola Strong, and I'm here on behalf of Superintendent Horne.
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I'd like to thank Senator Cavinaise. He correctly stated this is a common sense bill that addresses one of
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the most common
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uh significant issues that we see when it comes to retention and recruitment.
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Each year over the past three years under Superintendent Horn's leadership, ADE has conducted teacher
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retention in recruitment studies. The data can be found on our website asa.gov in the most recent
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Over 2,500 teachers responded.
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68.4 listed student behavior and discipline problems as an issue.
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These are teachers that have left the classroom.
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59% of respondents listed a lack of support of administration regarding student behavior
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and discipline as an issue. And 54, 56%
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of the respondents were dissatisfied with administration.
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31%
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of
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the
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respondents felt unsafe in the classroom.
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On September 3rd of 2024, ADE warned of the crisis in attracting and retaining classroom
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teachers, citing administrative support, discipline and pay as the top three issues.
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Based on that survey, and that was nearly 1,000 teachers that responded, who had left
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the classroom in 2023.
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is common sense, it encourages communication
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between administrators and the teacher in the classroom.
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And we ask for your support in this bill.
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Happy to answer any questions.
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Thank you.
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Thank, you, any members, Any questions?
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Okay members I have to remember I motion for it with no objection to recess for five minutes
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Okay, roll call vote has been called
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Representative abatia
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Members we're gonna vote because I needed recess four five minute. So we are voting on the motion to recess for 5 minutes
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And if you can hold your, if
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you could address the chair when
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you're doing it.
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Representative LaVatia.
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Madam chair, it's to recess.
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Correct.
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Correct, Nate.
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Representative Piusucci.
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Representative Fink.
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I.
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Representative Garcia.
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Representative Gutierrez.
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Representative Hernandez.
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I
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Representative Marshall.
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Representative Olson.
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Aye.
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Representative Rivera.
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Representative Simichek.
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No.
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Vice Chairwoman Pena.
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Ayes.
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Chairman Gress.
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Six ayes and four noes.
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Thank you members with six aisles and
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four nos we're gonna recess for five minutes.
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the Education Committee, thank you.
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Thank you, everyone.
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The Education committee at this moment, we're going to adjourn.
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For this afternoon, and we will get with the chairman to continue on the bills, so thank you
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The education committee is adjourned