[0:04] morning at

[0:06] a

[0:08] welcome we are going to start

[0:10] the Indian affairs committeetee

[0:13] as a subcommittee as we wait

[0:15] for quorum and we'll start with

[0:18] introductions. Right now the the

[0:19] agenda for today we are here

[0:20] today in the Gallup McKinley

[0:22] County Chamber ofcomrace due to

[0:25] go to Skycity ultural Center

[0:27] tomorrow and on Wednesday to the

[0:30] pueblo of Laguna so we're we're

[0:32] moving through here so we have a

[0:33] threeday meeting this week

[0:38] and we are going to do

[0:40] introductions and we do believe

[0:41] our first presenter is here

[0:44] byhazla chapter and then the

[0:47] city and lunch will be on your

[0:49] own so far they'll be food there

[0:50] there will be food I don't know

[0:51] what

[0:53] but there will be food now

[0:54] that's what I'm told

[0:57] oh thank you thank you

[0:59] representative and we were

[1:01] supposed to be in twin Lakes

[1:03] chapter but due to some of the

[1:05] outcome and stuff of the weather

[1:08] mother nature has brought us

[1:10] over here but I hope everybody

[1:11] had safe travels here and great

[1:14] accommodations and we will

[1:16] move forward so we will move

[1:19] forward with introductions first

[1:20] we will start with our those in

[1:20] the audience

[1:22] from

[1:26] this side to that side and

[1:29] then we'll go for it yes yeah no

[1:30] please use the mic up here we'll

[1:32] just push that button you can

[1:33] just leave it on too because we

[1:35] are webcasting so we try to have

[1:36] one mic at a time Hello good

[1:36] morning.

[1:40] good morning madam chair members

[1:41] of the committee, staff. my

[1:43] name is Bill Lee representing

[1:47] KJg strategies lobbying for a

[1:49] number of clients throughout New

[1:50] Mexico thank you madam chair

[2:01] good morning eachach and all of

[2:03] you my name is Eloise

[2:05] Johnson. I'm the chapter

[2:07] president of Twin Lakes

[2:09] chapter and I'm sorry we did not

[2:11] accommodate all of you but

[2:14] there was reasons and like

[2:16] they said Mo Nature but I'm glad

[2:17] to be here and welcome to each

[2:18] and all of you

[2:22] good morning madam chairir and

[2:23] committee. my name is hoda

[2:25] Edekai. I am with neighborigh

[2:26] I'm the indigenousnery

[2:27] organizer.

[2:31] good morning madam chairir.

[2:32] committeetee deborah Martinez

[2:32] city ofgallup.

[2:36] rose tom

[2:43] Good morning honorable

[2:45] legislatures my name is Joan

[2:47] Nance. I'm the vice president

[2:48] for Basla Twin Lakes chapter.

[2:49] thank you

[2:56] good morning welcome to gallup

[2:59] all of you doritzinnali Tohachi

[3:00] thank you

[3:03] Good morning

[3:06] Thompson Johnson from Twin

[3:06] Lakes

[3:21] that good we have we're gonna

[3:23] start over here withpresentative

[3:24] Block and we'll go around the

[3:25] way. Thank youpresentative. Oh,

[3:27] you want to start?

[3:28] Ohpresentative

[3:28] Le here

[3:33] good morning madam chairir umm

[3:35] anita Mejia from Chavez

[3:36] Countylad to be here

[3:40] good morning madam Chair John

[3:41] Block, Statepresentative House

[3:42] disstrict51 Otero County. I

[3:43] represent Allamogordo. thank you

[3:44] for having us.

[3:48] Madam Chair members Rex Wilson

[3:51] Senate District33 Chaviz

[3:53] Lincoln and Ontero counties it's

[3:55] good to be back in this part of

[3:56] the world. Thank you.

[4:00] good morning madam chair and

[4:01] good morning everyone. I'm

[4:03] Representative Patty Lundstrom

[4:06] and let me let me welcome you

[4:09] to House disstrict 9, this area

[4:11] is in my house district and I

[4:13] want to particularly welcome the

[4:15] folks from Twin Lakes. I used to

[4:16] represent you guys for about 20

[4:17] years

[4:20] and glad that you're here and

[4:22] glad that Bill's here also and

[4:24] look forward to a very good

[4:25] meeting today. thank you madam

[4:26] chairir.

[4:33] it's a bennett good morning

[4:34] madam chair and committee

[4:37] members and our staff. My name

[4:38] is Representative Micchelee

[4:40] Paulinabbeda. I'm coming to you

[4:42] from Trojele and I represent

[4:44] House disstrict 69 which covers

[4:44] six counties yeah

[4:51] yet a benne shea martha garcia

[4:54] yinia I represent a district

[4:56] 6 which coversieable County and

[4:57] McKinley County

[5:02] a represent ine chapters zunni

[5:05] grantsluewater Milan area and

[5:06] everything in between so that's

[5:10] where I MBR representative and

[5:11] welcome to everyone madam Chair,

[5:12] thank you

[5:16] Good morning madam chair members

[5:17] of the committee, those in the

[5:19] audience and those viewing my

[5:20] name is Patricia

[5:21] roybalcaballero. I represent

[5:24] house district thir which is the

[5:25] far southwest quadrant of

[5:26] Albuquerque and I'm happy to be

[5:30] here on this committee since my

[5:31] first term. thank you very much

[5:32] madam chairir.

[5:37] morning everyone I'm here to

[5:38] introduce staff. I'm Niccole

[5:40] Waisback from the Legislative

[5:42] coerce. We also have David here

[5:43] running our IT and we have

[5:45] Sheila and Paul assisting as

[5:46] well. thanks.

[5:52] thank you madam chair and good

[5:55] morning colleagues and staff and

[5:57] guests welcome to gallup

[6:01] I'm so glad that we're able

[6:03] to have this meeting here. I

[6:05] represent House disstrictive

[6:08] which entails East Gallup and1f

[6:11] Navajo chapters and now Twin

[6:12] Lakes is one of my chapters so

[6:17] Coming here and I was the one

[6:18] who recommended Twin Lakes

[6:20] chapter and we'll just do it

[6:20] again next time.

[6:24] so with that I just want to say

[6:24] good morning and thank you

[6:28] thank you madam vice chair and

[6:29] thank you for joining us and

[6:30] thank you to the chamber of

[6:33] commerce for accommodating us at

[6:34] the last minute and I think this

[6:36] room has changed the last time I

[6:37] was here

[6:39] we'd me here with the code

[6:42] talkers with the meeting so it

[6:45] is different but many things

[6:46] have happened this week within

[6:49] the area and I hope that is all

[6:51] in some way alleviated but I do

[6:52] believe we will see Mother

[6:54] Nature again in a couple more

[6:55] days to give us some

[6:58] some much needed moisture in

[6:58] some sense.

[6:59] but

[7:02] Shannon Pinilion and she had

[7:04] Keanni Nishchelakisluchini

[7:06] bush's china detechi nida

[7:06] chanella

[7:08] the I mean that's cha

[7:11] Filippino dechaele and I know

[7:14] some of my members here

[7:17] within the audience in which as

[7:19] well with your children we all

[7:21] grew up together so it's very

[7:23] good to to be back here and

[7:25] which we were out at twin Lakes

[7:27] but would you like to come

[7:29] forward? We do have item ones

[7:31] welcome an update from Bajala

[7:33] chapter and then we will go to

[7:35] the update from the city of

[7:36] Gallup and the future of

[7:36] community economic

[7:42] sovereignty so the light will

[7:44] turn green may have a seat and I

[7:44] don't know if anybody else is

[7:47] going to join you up here.

[7:48] actually let's take a moment

[7:52] here ma'am would you like to

[7:56] welcome us to let's give a

[7:56] minute here to our mayor of

[7:57] Gallup

[8:00] yes come on up and take a

[8:02] minute here with the microphone

[8:05] so we can and then we'll

[8:06] begin our first presentation

[8:06] here but

[8:08] but good morning

[8:11] the the thing to turn on

[8:13] thank you

[8:16] thanks for coming to Gallup.

[8:17] you're always welcome

[8:19] you know first I want to express

[8:22] my condolences for the family in

[8:24] newcomb you know with three

[8:26] people killed in a flash flood

[8:27] you know the floods are real and

[8:28] we're telling everybody be

[8:30] careful and unfortunately for

[8:32] ourR it's not the first time you

[8:34] know we've had a lot of people

[8:36] get swept away by floods

[8:38] there are nondiscriminatory

[8:40] don't enter the royals so we're

[8:40] trying to get that message

[8:41] across

[8:43] but anyway you know thanks

[8:44] for coming toallup are always

[8:46] good to have you it's always

[8:48] good to have you you know our

[8:50] we're working with what's that

[8:53] oh my name is Marc Dipali mayor

[8:54] of Gallup sorry about that

[8:58] I you know what our city

[8:59] manager's are going to be here

[9:00] in a little bit. He's gonna kind

[9:02] of express some of the things

[9:04] we're working on trying to get

[9:05] ahead of with thenavo nation

[9:10] you know we have a a population

[9:13] in Gallllup that is showing up

[9:15] here that we don't know if

[9:17] it's coming in from other from

[9:19] treatment centers or how they're

[9:20] how the people are showing up

[9:21] and they're not just nes

[9:23] necessarily native but we

[9:24] want to work with the Navo

[9:27] nation we we had incidents some

[9:28] incidents happen where people

[9:29] have been dropped off inallup

[9:32] and we've talked to him and

[9:35] mostly young girls and we hear

[9:36] what we hear is that

[9:39] they're their friend dropped

[9:41] them off and left him you know

[9:43] and it's very concerning you

[9:44] know trafficking is our biggest

[9:46] thing. one of my biggest things

[9:48] to continue and can continue to

[9:49] address you know and we need to

[9:51] make sure that we keep don't let

[9:54] it out out of our view and keep

[9:55] pushing the trafficking and

[9:57] making sure that we provide a

[9:58] safe place for people to go we

[10:00] want to we want to try to make

[10:02] something safe where if somebody

[10:04] is here maybe against their will

[10:05] or some got dropped off you know

[10:08] and as soon as you hear dropped

[10:11] off that's that's scary you know

[10:14] and we wanted that's one

[10:15] of the things we're working on

[10:16] is try to get him a safe get

[10:17] people a safe place where they

[10:18] know they're safe and they can

[10:21] go. having worked in Mexico30

[10:22] years ago I kind of have a

[10:24] little bit of experience with

[10:26] what what happens with when you

[10:27] have people who are trafficked

[10:29] and some of the people aren't

[10:30] necessarily native they are

[10:31] they're people from all over the

[10:32] place that come in they come

[10:33] throughallup.

[10:36] Anyway with that I did you know

[10:37] I don't want to be a bummer or a

[10:38] downer but I wanna to make let

[10:39] everybody know that we are

[10:41] working with our missing

[10:43] murdered indigenous and

[10:44] throughout the state with the

[10:45] other law enforcement to make

[10:46] sure that we can move ahead with

[10:47] this

[10:49] of course we'll work with

[10:50] working close with the tribe too

[10:54] anyway with that you know we

[10:55] have we have big plans for

[10:58] Gallup you know we we're working

[11:00] on some economic development

[11:02] with Patty Lindstrom you know

[11:04] and of course my niece

[11:06] Micchelle she's here. Pauline

[11:09] you know and you know

[11:11] working on some big projects

[11:13] we want to make sure thatallup

[11:16] has a place for our youth to go

[11:17] you know one of the things

[11:19] that's happening and I have

[11:20] friends you know I grew up in

[11:21] Gallup of course native

[11:23] friends and my friendRay

[11:24] Livingston he's a Livingston

[11:25] from Church rock

[11:29] and you know all of his kids

[11:31] and even him they all leave you

[11:32] know he comes back on the

[11:34] weekends for to work you know

[11:35] and and you know it's time we

[11:37] start providing opportunities

[11:39] and jobs here in Gallup for the

[11:41] local people you know so raises

[11:44] raise four kids one one's one's

[11:46] a nurse one works as an

[11:48] electrician another one's a

[11:49] mechanic or HBAc and the other

[11:51] one and the other girl I forget

[11:53] what she does but they're all

[11:54] they're either in New orleans

[11:55] they're work of course

[11:58] in the state working on other

[11:59] projects but we need to make

[12:00] sure we provide those

[12:01] opportunities here and we're

[12:03] working with of course with the

[12:06] the the uhnavajo nation or is is

[12:08] always our partner making

[12:10] sure that we have them on our

[12:12] side to provide these positions

[12:13] but then of course the next big

[12:16] step is the education we want to

[12:17] make sure that you and him and

[12:19] to you are available or well

[12:21] aware of what we're doing so

[12:22] that we can work with them

[12:23] hand in hand

[12:26] I recently got to go to

[12:29] barcelona Spain you know and

[12:30] I'm over there in Barcelona and

[12:32] people come up to me and start

[12:33] speaking French. they think I'm

[12:35] French. well no, I'm not French

[12:38] I'm Italian but anyway you

[12:39] know what what's interesting the

[12:41] idiotta that we went and visited

[12:43] is a test lab you know and I I'd

[12:44] been to jet propulsion

[12:45] laborboratory in California.

[12:46] a lot of similarities

[12:51] you know but they all work

[12:52] all these testing labs these

[12:54] high tech facilities work hand

[12:56] in hand with their universities

[12:58] to be able to fill the positions

[13:00] that they that they they know

[13:02] they're gonna need and they and

[13:02] they fill these positions so

[13:04] that they can provide an experts

[13:07] the the the high quality

[13:10] testing lab and testing facility

[13:13] so you know education of course

[13:15] then the court the next thing is

[13:16] recreation you know we want to

[13:17] we the gallup is we're looking

[13:20] at doing a pretty big expansion

[13:21] to our recreation. you know I

[13:22] hear when I go to the municipal

[13:23] league I hear from people that

[13:25] gallup has some of the best

[13:27] recreational facilities and we

[13:29] do you know and not only that we

[13:31] have cool weather so in the

[13:32] summertime it's nice to come to

[13:34] Gallup but of course you know as

[13:36] as Senator Pinto knows you know

[13:38] basketball is dear to gallup and

[13:40] so is you know the soccer is

[13:41] becoming one of the other things

[13:43] volleyball you know football

[13:45] and all the different sports but

[13:46] we have the opportunity here

[13:47] every weekend

[13:50] our our sports fields are filled

[13:52] because people come as far as

[13:53] Phoenix Yuma, Texas to go to

[13:55] play here inallup and we want to

[13:58] continue that the then

[14:00] another thing of course is

[14:02] housing you know one of the

[14:03] one of the deals that or one of

[14:04] the things that we will work on

[14:07] housing right now is incredibly

[14:10] expensive my family's been

[14:11] building houses in here probably

[14:13] for h00 years. you know my aro

[14:15] Caania was was my grandfather he

[14:17] was a stonemason he learned the

[14:20] stonemasonry from the Spanish so

[14:21] one of the reasons when I went

[14:22] back to Barcelona I wanted to

[14:24] see exactly what why

[14:25] everything's so common wall and

[14:26] sure enough you know I could see

[14:28] that see the resemblance between

[14:30] downtown Gallup and some of the

[14:33] buildings were in Barcelona but

[14:34] you know he he learned the

[14:34] stonemason trade from the S

[14:37] pan ish and at one time he had75

[14:39] stonemasons working for him. He

[14:41] built the church in Hau. he

[14:43] built the church in Tohatchie

[14:45] he built churches all over the

[14:47] diocese of gallup. we had75

[14:48] stonemasons and then most of

[14:50] them are either zuni or Navajo

[14:53] the Tracy's Keaazzzie all my

[14:54] all my friends that grew up with

[14:57] but housing is dear is

[14:58] something we really need to look

[14:58] into

[15:01] you know it's it's a hard it's

[15:02] hard to

[15:06] it's hard to proceed with

[15:09] housing when a simple1300 square

[15:13] foot houses almost $250,000 you

[15:14] know, I I don't know what how

[15:16] we're ever going to catch up but

[15:17] you know there are going to be

[15:18] you know it's one of the things

[15:20] we have to do is maybe there

[15:21] might be some federal federal or

[15:23] state assistance to do that but

[15:24] that's the next thing so

[15:27] recreation education housing and

[15:28] jobs

[15:31] and with that if there's any

[15:32] questions I'll be glad to answer

[15:33] them.

[15:34] or discuss things

[15:36] but

[15:39] they got I have some people that

[15:41] I'd like to talk to you with

[15:43] that I met last week or toward

[15:45] their facilities and all kinds

[15:46] of stuff with behavioral health

[15:48] soha yes it's gonna be very

[15:50] interesting very excited about

[15:52] it but thank you thank you mayor

[15:54] right well thanks for coming to

[15:55] Gallup and our city manager will

[15:56] be here later I don't know if

[15:57] you if you wanted to talk to him

[15:58] or if he has some things to say

[15:58] to you he'll be glad to.

[16:01] Did I make did I come late? Wa I

[16:02] supposed to be here at10

[16:02] or10:30?

[16:07] Oh good right on right on time

[16:10] then with that thank you I was

[16:11] just giving the opportunity to

[16:13] welcome thank you we'll talk

[16:15] we'll ask questions later and

[16:16] have a more deeper discussion

[16:18] that was more than a welcome

[16:20] that was a welcome in the whole

[16:21] summary that's what we're doing

[16:24] thank you ma'am and thank you

[16:25] and you may proceed to it

[16:29] good morning again everyone

[16:33] like I said my name is Eloise

[16:34] Johnson. I'm the chapter

[16:37] president of Twin Lakes chapter

[16:39] and I said welcome to

[16:41] everybody earlier but I want to

[16:44] welcome honorable leaders

[16:47] of New Mexico legislatures thank

[16:49] you for thinking of us and

[16:51] trying to have us host this

[16:52] meeting however

[16:56] you know due to unforeseen

[16:58] circumstances we have to you

[17:00] know we were without water there

[17:02] for a while we were without

[17:04] internet and electric and we had

[17:06] a lot of stranded relatives

[17:08] that we needed to house at the

[17:11] chapter anyway so we've been

[17:15] on emergency call 24/7 for

[17:17] our chapter to accommodate you

[17:19] know people that are stranded

[17:21] which very few but Mexican

[17:22] springs had most of them I

[17:22] think.

[17:23] the chapter there

[17:27] but anyhow so due to that we

[17:29] couldn't host you know this

[17:32] meeting but however you know

[17:34] down the road we like to still

[17:36] accommodate we had bought

[17:39] turkeys we have bought food and

[17:41] we were ready for this and all

[17:43] of a sudden you know things

[17:45] happen so now we have to hold

[17:46] the turkeys for the holidays

[17:50] but anyway thank you for each

[17:52] and all of you for being here

[17:52] and recognizing our chapter

[17:57] and even the state

[18:00] government county government and

[18:02] city of Gallup and we wanted

[18:04] to just say thank you you know

[18:07] for being our friends our

[18:08] neighbors and helping one

[18:11] another you know times like this

[18:13] and distinguished guests all

[18:15] of you that are here my

[18:16] relatives in Navajo you have a

[18:19] relative you know each and every

[18:21] one of us you know that's our

[18:22] heritage and we go by you know

[18:28] each everyone isla by clan so we

[18:31] never are without relatives so

[18:35] that's ournavajo way, OK? and

[18:37] it's like I said my apologies

[18:39] for not accommodating you all at

[18:40] the chapter

[18:40] and

[18:45] I just want to get to it and say

[18:47] you know that I'm very grateful

[18:48] and thankful that the

[18:49] legislatures that are in there

[18:52] right now and prior have really

[18:54] helped the chapter with projects

[18:57] and all of that and some are

[18:58] still pending

[19:01] and all of that but I just

[19:03] want to express my appreciation

[19:05] for acknowledging and helping us

[19:08] and some of the projects that

[19:12] are still pending they're

[19:14] being worked on right now and I

[19:17] represent the five chapters also

[19:19] in district14 which is

[19:22] Mexican spprings coyote

[19:26] Canyon Nashchitti Tohachi

[19:27] and our chapter so in district4

[19:28] we

[19:32] have ive chapters and on

[19:33] their behalf I want to say thank

[19:36] you to each and all of you for

[19:38] assisting us with funds when

[19:40] when it's available and all of

[19:43] that and some projects have been

[19:45] successfully done and one

[19:47] thing before anything as I

[19:49] wanted to say I hope you still

[19:52] support us with the the projects

[19:53] that are still pending like

[19:54] the highway491 lighting

[19:58] and if you guys were over at

[19:59] the chapter I was and go ahead

[20:03] and have you witness all the

[20:05] fast vehicles that are going

[20:06] through and we have an

[20:08] elementary school there is no

[20:11] slowdown signs there is no

[20:13] bus pullout nothing like that

[20:16] people are just passing through

[20:18] there so fast there is no bump,

[20:20] nothing to warn people that

[20:22] there's a school there or

[20:24] anything so please I would

[20:24] suggest that you guys

[20:28] look into that and see what we

[20:30] can do to eliminate or to slow

[20:31] down traffic through there

[20:35] and then another thing that that

[20:37] you know is on my mind while

[20:41] I'm here is that we do we

[20:44] did pay the money that you guys

[20:47] did give paid for the safety

[20:49] audit that took all the money

[20:52] that your you allocated so

[20:53] now it's just the construction

[20:57] that's all you know pending and

[20:58] they say that we need more

[21:01] money1.4 million to complete and

[21:02] we really

[21:05] request that and hopefully it

[21:06] can be done soon

[21:10] and then and then thank you

[21:11] so much for

[21:16] JohnsonRoad. it is now a major

[21:19] road in our community thank you

[21:21] Patty Lindstrum for pushing

[21:22] that through for us

[21:25] and now we get all of the coyote

[21:28] Kenyan transportation to people

[21:30] coming from Coyota Canyon go

[21:31] through that road people coming

[21:33] fromortlegai roadad go through

[21:36] that road so it's really it

[21:39] needs to be completed the

[21:41] construction was not completed

[21:43] 2.2 miles of it is still

[21:46] unfinished due to the fact that

[21:49] money ran short but I would

[21:51] really recommend that that being

[21:52] that it's a major road right

[21:55] now but it has a lot of potholes

[21:58] now you know due to you know

[22:00] people going through there a lot

[22:02] and it's one of the major roads

[22:04] and one of our bridges are ready

[22:05] to give out and there's two

[22:08] bridges on that road but anyway

[22:09] I wanted to highlight that

[22:13] for you guys and then thankfully

[22:15] the money that you all allocated

[22:16] for the demolition of the old

[22:19] chapter itss finally going to

[22:21] happen it's out for bid and all

[22:22] that and

[22:24] asbestos cleanup needs to happen

[22:26] and all that they say but it's

[22:29] going to happen soon and it's

[22:32] out for bid so with that you

[22:34] know wanted to let you all know

[22:36] that that's going to happen

[22:39] and then and it's sad that

[22:41] the community cemetery that's

[22:44] really needed in our area.

[22:47] that money was reburied you know

[22:50] just because you know we have

[22:51] no project managers at the

[22:54] Navajo Nation

[22:58] in their government where you

[23:00] know the planned the projects

[23:01] and things like that people are

[23:04] leaving leaving their jobs and

[23:06] it's just staff turnover that's

[23:08] really slowing down things in

[23:10] the winter rock and with our

[23:11] chapter so we're just sitting

[23:14] idly by just waiting you know

[23:15] for these projects to be

[23:19] completed so you know that's I

[23:20] just wanted you guys to all

[23:22] understand that so you know it's

[23:23] really win the rock

[23:26] you know money stops there and

[23:27] all of that and you all know

[23:30] that so we just need people to

[23:32] push all that money through so

[23:33] it can you know accommodate our

[23:34] community

[23:37] and then one thing I want to

[23:38] suggest to the mayor is that

[23:40] maybe a sports complex in Gallup

[23:43] is due because you know I think

[23:46] it brings a lot of revenue

[23:47] and money you know are our

[23:49] sports and Navajo kids are

[23:51] really into sports and they

[23:53] bring that activity here and

[23:54] gallup

[23:57] you know makes makes money off

[23:59] of our people and all that and I

[24:02] think a sports complexes do here

[24:02] in Gallup

[24:05] either that or on the

[24:06] reservation on the highway491.

[24:09] but anyway, these are some of

[24:11] the things I wanted to highlight

[24:12] and

[24:16] just think about all this for

[24:19] us honorable leaders and we

[24:20] really appreciate all that you

[24:23] do and that's what I I have

[24:26] to say and the vice president

[24:26] here from the chapter I think

[24:27] will

[24:29] you know add to that

[24:36] yeahe penna my native tongue

[24:42] behaje adoshee adonadanolini

[24:44] that means my leaders and native

[24:49] a hawa and thank you for

[24:50] allowing us to say a few words

[24:53] and I'm not going to take all

[24:54] the time she did she had it

[24:56] written down.ine is all from my

[24:58] head Twin Lakes chapter known as

[25:01] boss a chapters we have a

[25:03] headstart in our area we also

[25:04] have an elementary school

[25:08] that's a feeder school to

[25:09] Tohatchie High School within

[25:12] within our area we also have

[25:14] husa Community school that we

[25:16] have a representative from our

[25:18] area that goes there. We also

[25:19] have a veterans program

[25:21] that we work with

[25:24] and then we also have our next

[25:26] door neighbors seniorenter

[25:26] program

[25:29] that's very much under our

[25:31] umbrella and then we also have a

[25:34] community health representative

[25:36] ChR does not have a place to

[25:38] house herself so she's stuck in

[25:38] the corner at the chapter house

[25:43] that consists of all the

[25:46] functions the daily functions of

[25:46] our chapter house

[25:49] and we would have loved to show

[25:51] you and take you down some of

[25:53] these roads that men and

[25:55] majority of our people travel

[25:58] every single day and these roads

[26:01] are for school use hospital

[26:03] appointment just to go get food

[26:04] just daily survival

[26:09] and a lot of them are washed out

[26:10] at this around last week and

[26:11] this week mostly

[26:16] wo homes completely flooded and

[26:18] we're working diligently to

[26:19] replace those homes with

[26:21] whatever funds we can get our

[26:22] hands on

[26:26] and just to echo what my sister

[26:28] said were sisters by clan by the

[26:30] way I'm probably sisters and

[26:33] relatives of the leadership here

[26:34] we work with

[26:37] our local governments whether

[26:39] it be thenavajo nation the state

[26:42] government, the Mcinley County,

[26:42] the city

[26:47] we all work together and try to

[26:48] make things happen for our

[26:51] people we get call all hours of

[26:54] the night we get text messages.

[26:57] I am flooded what can you do is

[26:59] the chapter available and we

[27:01] have to go around and make the

[27:02] chapter accessible 24/7.

[27:06] and mind you we're missing one

[27:08] important employee at our local

[27:10] government letters the the area

[27:13] so that makes it even harder

[27:16] what they call a a a community

[27:18] service worker the position is

[27:18] vacant in our area.

[27:20] in our chapter

[27:23] so we have to rely on our local

[27:24] public employment program

[27:24] workers

[27:28] and that's just the gist of how

[27:31] we live our lives in twin lakes

[27:33] but I would not change it for

[27:35] anything else. I'm there to help

[27:37] my people wherever I can however

[27:40] I can and I really do appreciate

[27:43] you all listening to me a ha I

[27:45] appreciate you all and

[27:46] everything that you all do you

[27:48] know it takes a lot being in a

[27:49] position wearing all kinds of

[27:51] hats and I'm sure you'll all get

[27:52] told this too

[27:55] some good and some not so good

[27:57] but we managed to live all those

[27:58] moments

[27:58] thank you

[28:06] thank you I havepresentative

[28:07] Lindstrom. thank you madam

[28:09] Chair. I'd like to start by

[28:12] saying both Elouise and Joan are

[28:13] two of the hardestworking public

[28:14] servants I've ever met.

[28:17] I've worked with them for years

[28:19] Eloise obviously at the

[28:21] chapter level and Joan at the

[28:22] chapter level and the public

[28:22] schools

[28:26] I did want to ask you a question

[28:28] there's a concept being kicked

[28:29] around now that council

[28:32] delegates will determine where

[28:32] your capital outlay goes.

[28:35] that's in a nutshell what I've

[28:37] always said when they talked to

[28:38] me about it is I'm gonna put the

[28:39] money

[28:41] to the people that actually send

[28:43] me to Santa Fe and I'm still

[28:44] gonna do that regardless of what

[28:45] everybody else does.

[28:48] because I think you know your

[28:50] community's at a heart level you

[28:52] know exactly where those

[28:52] pressure points are

[28:56] when you talk about things

[28:58] like JohnsonRoad. we worked on

[29:00] that project for probably5 years

[29:02] or longer. All those road

[29:05] projects I was involved with the

[29:07] new chapter building and that

[29:08] was yours in the making

[29:10] and it worked out fine for us

[29:12] and we're the rubber hits the

[29:13] road for us is what happens in

[29:14] Wind orRock.

[29:16] we don't have any control over

[29:16] that

[29:20] but what I wanted to ask is that

[29:20] there is a

[29:24] a group that's called the New

[29:26] Mexico delegation they're made

[29:27] up of different council

[29:28] delegates they're supposed to

[29:29] meet with us on a regular basis

[29:33] and they meet with us and tell

[29:36] us what the needs of the of the

[29:36] tribe is you know in general

[29:38] and

[29:41] what I've always found

[29:43] interesting is that they've

[29:44] never brought up this thing

[29:45] about cemeteries now the

[29:47] cemetery issue is a regulation

[29:49] that's changed across the entire

[29:50] Navajo nation

[29:54] so why on earth money would

[29:55] revert especially knowing that

[29:57] I'm the one who put that in

[29:59] there bugs me. it bugs me

[30:01] because those regulations came

[30:03] out of wenderock for the

[30:05] chapters to follow. It would

[30:07] make sense to me that this New

[30:10] Mexico delegation of council

[30:12] delegates would come together

[30:14] ask for one appropriation for

[30:16] all the chapters that are

[30:17] looking at upgrading your

[30:18] cemeteries

[30:21] for improvements for cemeteries

[30:23] across New Mexico chapters and

[30:24] we put that in as one capital

[30:24] request.

[30:26] but that's not how it happens

[30:30] So I I don't know if you guys go

[30:33] to those meetings or can talk

[30:34] to your delegates about that

[30:38] but I think we need one request

[30:39] so we can help all of them. I've

[30:43] had3 or4 now different chapters

[30:44] that have asked for cemetery

[30:46] improvement money and and I know

[30:47] you need it because the

[30:49] regulations have changed and

[30:50] there's no money that comes with

[30:51] that regulatory change

[30:56] so I would strongly suggest that

[30:58] maybe this committee can just

[30:59] work on that anyway

[31:02] but I don't want to jump the gun

[31:04] if the chapters have changed

[31:06] their priorities but I I know

[31:07] cemeteries are a big deal and

[31:09] I've had I've got at least4 now

[31:10] that want to see upgrade

[31:14] but I wanna cre appreciate you

[31:15] too and thank you for coming

[31:17] out. thanks for being partners

[31:19] in the trenches when it matters

[31:21] the most and anything I can do

[31:22] just ask me

[31:28] p re s ent ative Johnson

[31:31] thank you madam chairir,

[31:33] colleagues and thank you

[31:34] Shannahata

[31:39] Shade from Twin Lakes and

[31:40] then the rest of the Twin Lakes

[31:42] community and neighbors from

[31:43] Tohatchie along491.

[31:49] hi ft to on heates adobesoshi

[31:52] jali so we'll go ahead and have

[31:55] a meeting after this sometime in

[31:57] the next two weeks and going

[31:58] further and we'll talk about

[32:01] chapter community needs. so with

[32:03] that I just want to thank you

[32:05] for your hard work and

[32:08] you

[32:14] committee members you know thank

[32:14] you so

[32:19] does Twin Lakes have a cemetery

[32:20] established

[32:23] ok so there's no land withdrawal

[32:25] that's been done. Yes or where

[32:27] where's your where's your

[32:30] proposed site yes there is

[32:32] the eclipsy members they're

[32:34] working on the you know

[32:38] acquiring that first

[32:39] we're going to start with the

[32:43] four acres you know right now we

[32:46] had it set for11 acres and we

[32:48] did get a land withdrawal done.

[32:49] it's going through right now and

[32:50] we have

[32:53] permission from the

[32:56] landowner to build

[32:59] cemetery there and it's on route

[33:01] 9 going towards Coyote Canyon

[33:06] that that road it's how

[33:09] many miles down three miles down

[33:10] I think on your right side

[33:15] and we're talking about11

[33:18] acres you know but then we were

[33:20] seeing you know we should

[33:23] just we should just do4 from

[33:24] the beginning you know and then

[33:25] add to it

[33:29] but it's all being done by

[33:30] the clubc members and they're

[33:31] meeting tomorrow.

[33:34] iss it tomorrow you guys are

[33:36] meeting oh no oh the following

[33:36] week'm sorry go ahead

[33:40] let me add to that I have the

[33:43] packet I I have the packet

[33:44] that's ready to be submitted.

[33:45] However, we still need our

[33:48] grazing official signature on

[33:50] some of the forms that needs to

[33:52] and then we'll finalize it and

[33:54] then it'll go to C pmD I

[33:56] understand and I'm trying to

[33:57] help and run with it with what

[33:58] we do have

[34:02] it was like she said through

[34:04] four acres it's been reverted

[34:04] back to11.5.

[34:09] it's reverted back to11.5 and

[34:12] we're asking for access to the

[34:14] area and it's right along the

[34:18] line that gas line but it's

[34:20] not right in the area it's

[34:21] beside the area so we're going

[34:23] to have to ask for permission

[34:26] from the company there just

[34:27] little minor steps that we're

[34:28] still working on

[34:29] otherwise

[34:34] yeah yeah we're gonna be outside

[34:37] it and the lady that is

[34:38] president for lupsy. she knows

[34:39] what she's doing

[34:42] that's her job and she's got a

[34:44] lot of experience with that so

[34:46] she's leading us through and

[34:49] I have the packet with me and I

[34:50] just as soon as I get the

[34:51] signatures from the young man

[34:52] we're on our way

[34:56] thank you and it's it's kind of

[34:57] just letting our members know

[35:00] too what we what our challenges

[35:01] are within the chapter because

[35:04] not every chapter has a cemetery

[35:07] ours actually in hatchie's maxed

[35:09] out and they did extend it but

[35:12] with the upgrades to the burial

[35:15] procedure it has to be fenced

[35:17] and it has to have public access

[35:21] is part of it so they didn't

[35:23] say actually criteria for what

[35:24] public access is I don't know

[35:27] as far as grading the road

[35:28] because I if that

[35:30] because I know there are

[35:32] restrictions when you go over

[35:33] the gas line as far as grading

[35:34] or any kind of road improvement

[35:37] yeah it's very difficult

[35:41] the water situation

[35:46] it was interesting this morning

[35:48] cause I was on my way to the

[35:49] meeting here and they said it is

[35:51] not just a it happens

[35:53] periodically. how often does

[35:55] that happen in what areas of the

[35:58] twin lakes is happening at it

[35:59] sounds like you guys are losing

[36:03] water often well to answer

[36:04] your question

[36:04] chair

[36:07] it happens

[36:10] I would say more than

[36:12] periodically we either have no

[36:14] water or no electricity.

[36:18] and it's only like a certain

[36:21] section and I don't know if ours

[36:23] we live in that area where it's

[36:24] always been impacted

[36:26] our neighbors would have water

[36:29] neighborighs on the other side

[36:31] would have water but I don't

[36:32] know if our water tank is

[36:34] connected withexican springs

[36:36] when they're without water we

[36:38] don't have water and that water

[36:40] what the the area that I'm

[36:41] talking about is if you know

[36:43] where the chapter house is

[36:45] straight down east from there

[36:47] and you notice the housing there

[36:49] and the elementary is just east

[36:52] of Dda Headart is just east of

[36:52] there yeah

[36:56] Twin Lakes housing yeah just

[36:57] it's that whole strip will have

[36:58] no water

[37:02] and if and if the power goes

[37:03] out it's completely out a

[37:04] blackout

[37:08] and you just I mean people will

[37:10] call me I will call NTUA and try

[37:11] to get somebody get some

[37:13] information really back to

[37:15] the community residents

[37:17] so NTUA is aware of it

[37:20] we've been calling and calling

[37:21] and

[37:26] their answer is always your area

[37:28] is not the only one affected all

[37:30] these other areas so we'll

[37:32] address it when we will address

[37:33] it when we find a broken water

[37:34] line

[37:37] so you don't know if it's

[37:39] actually a broken water line or

[37:42] don't know we just report it you

[37:45] just report it what happens

[37:47] at the school do you know if

[37:48] they don't have any water they

[37:50] get water delivered water

[37:53] bottles delivered and then they

[37:54] also have

[37:56] other alternative ways

[37:58] for the restroom facility

[38:03] or if worst comes to worst

[38:05] the last thing they do I know

[38:06] for a fact is they don't release

[38:09] school any time during the

[38:10] school day because they don't

[38:12] know if anybody will be home to

[38:14] receive the kits or even if they

[38:15] have a key to get into their

[38:16] house

[38:19] it's better and safer for them

[38:21] to stay at the school and I just

[38:23] want members to know this is

[38:24] this happens atchi too it

[38:26] happened once a couple of years

[38:28] at elementary you we have and

[38:30] they told my kids that because

[38:32] they couldn't get porta potties

[38:34] they had to get on the bus and

[38:36] go to Twinlakes to use the

[38:37] restroom at one moment

[38:42] so this is it's an issue I

[38:44] and you have reached out

[38:45] tonTwe ok

[38:49] I'm I'm going to talk to our our

[38:51] our public school company they

[38:53] oversight task force and PED and

[38:55] then we'll go from there too and

[38:58] and the delegates

[39:02] somebody from the nation's far

[39:03] leadership are they aware

[39:06] thelDAs or I think oh

[39:11] thelAs are the ones that work

[39:14] for council delegate that

[39:15] because they they're the ones

[39:16] attending the meetings and you

[39:18] haven't spoken to a delegate

[39:20] directly more than the delegate

[39:22] because delegates always in

[39:23] the window on those committee

[39:26] meetings and all that so he

[39:29] has 2 2lDAs that work under him

[39:31] so they go to these meetings at

[39:33] the local level can you have

[39:35] something generated written

[39:36] to the the members or to me and

[39:37] then I'll

[39:40] disseminate it to to our members

[39:40] here

[39:44] to read it over in that way

[39:46] representatives here can also

[39:48] take it up the line to our to

[39:51] who we talk to too and get it

[39:53] addressed cause I think it is in

[39:55] especially when we talk about

[39:56] our children

[39:57] it should probably even go to

[39:59] OEh in some instances because

[40:01] I'm assuming that senior center

[40:03] and that gets shut down when the

[40:04] water pressures because you

[40:04] can't have you can't

[40:12] ok let me see the chapter I

[40:14] know that the old chapter

[40:16] house with the demolition you

[40:18] need to report that to us to in

[40:19] that process of where you're

[40:21] standing because right now on my

[40:23] list that I just received last

[40:26] week that it says nobody's

[40:27] reported anything and you guys

[40:28] are under the red about where

[40:30] the project stands so you need

[40:33] to call our DFfa and let them

[40:35] know where you guys are at in

[40:36] the process so it reflects in

[40:36] what

[40:40] I receive or else will be in

[40:41] trouble by the time the session

[40:44] startsmorrow we're having a

[40:45] leadership meeting tomorrow

[40:46] morning at the chapter and

[40:48] that's when the council delegate

[40:51] and his LDA that's when we we

[40:52] report to each others

[40:56] and the officials so and yeah

[40:57] they'll be that that will be on

[40:59] the list yeah and I just want to

[41:02] make sure too I mean I'm not

[41:04] trying to because I know I

[41:06] have other chapter leaders here

[41:09] and community members here that

[41:10] if we're not really aware of

[41:11] the situation but we need

[41:14] something in writing even when I

[41:15] talked to my congressional

[41:16] leaders especially when it's

[41:18] like a federal road or something

[41:20] is it's like yeah there's a

[41:20] problem with this road

[41:23] no it's not just because I'm

[41:25] driving on it but I need a

[41:26] community member to come forward

[41:28] and put that in writing so I can

[41:30] send it up and say this is an

[41:31] issue coming from this person in

[41:33] this community and that they're

[41:34] not just thinking I'm trying to

[41:36] do something that's easier for

[41:39] me and to drive on to where I

[41:41] drive or in any issue in that

[41:43] sense so we need to receive that

[41:46] in writing in that sense but

[41:48] thank you for the work you do

[41:50] and I believe that process to

[41:50] that proposed process

[41:54] was just recently proposed

[41:56] but we're going back to to

[41:57] make sure that you guys are

[41:59] shovel ready in that sense but I

[42:01] think it does, I don't think it

[42:02] has been communicated to the

[42:04] chapters yet because it seems

[42:07] like it's coming top down and

[42:09] then we'll go from there because

[42:11] I do believe that Navajo Nation

[42:15] areigrother has their process

[42:18] that hurts our chapters and

[42:19] they need to streamline it over

[42:20] there and get their their ducks

[42:21] in a row

[42:23] and then let our our chapters

[42:24] know

[42:26] what's what's there but once

[42:28] it's done it'll be communicated

[42:30] out as soon as possible. I don't

[42:31] know if you have any questions

[42:32] for me. Oh, and the lighting

[42:35] because I don't think you guys

[42:37] ever had a school zone like

[42:40] ever in that area. it was just a

[42:41] safety corridor that was it.

[42:43] Tohatchee does not have one

[42:44] there's got

[42:46] knocked down I think in an

[42:48] accident or something but all

[42:50] along for91, that's going to

[42:51] be something I will will address

[42:55] up and down49 because I

[42:56] think new comes the other one

[43:00] up and down there that needs

[43:03] and even with the bus routes and

[43:04] rockcksprings with the

[43:07] because I do believetachi

[43:08] changed her transportation route

[43:11] so your school bus

[43:13] transportation routes need to

[43:14] make sure they're communicated

[43:15] so that we know where that

[43:16] zone's supposed to be how far

[43:17] out

[43:20] in that sense and I know we

[43:20] did

[43:24] I don't know if there's actually

[43:26] needs to be a turnout extended

[43:29] like they did at Chi Dodge

[43:30] because we were having issues

[43:31] right there on top of the hill

[43:33] and you saw we extended that

[43:36] lane out for for that traffic. I

[43:36] don't know

[43:40] how that but let's let's take

[43:42] this further but thank you and

[43:44] alluding to the turnout to the

[43:44] elementary school needs to bewi.

[43:49] we have two yeah big buses that

[43:51] go in there and you can turn out

[43:52] and then you wait for the

[43:55] vehicles creates a congestion in

[43:56] the mornings they told me

[43:57] because I told them

[43:59] tohachielementary was like that

[44:01] and they said you're right it's

[44:02] too narrow but I'm not sure what

[44:04] we because that road right

[44:06] there's a BIA road and that one

[44:07] might be too right

[44:11] to be ident yeah to the to the

[44:12] housing ok

[44:15] but that one was they did a

[44:17] good job right there at Doy

[44:20] dodge they completed it that's

[44:21] yeah it's very safe and I like

[44:22] it

[44:24] thank you thank you for the work

[44:26] you do thank you thank you for

[44:28] joining us and hopefully we get

[44:29] to be out there. I know I

[44:31] stopped by there a couple of

[44:33] times but you guys are busy too

[44:36] I let them know I stopped by

[44:37] write a little note and I don't

[44:38] know if you can read my writing

[44:40] but thank you thank you

[44:44] thank you all ok committee

[44:46] members we will move on to item

[44:47] two update from the city

[44:48] ofallllup

[44:52] and we have Frank Gippetti and

[44:54] Marc Dipali and I would also

[44:55] like to mention that I did see

[44:57] heavy equipment coming from

[44:59] Gallup headed up north on491 so

[45:01] I'm sure that's a county or the

[45:03] city going out to great roads so

[45:05] we appreciate that very much for

[45:06] the outreach as we move forward

[45:10] I know petty's been before us

[45:11] before and

[45:13] I don't know if mayor's coming

[45:15] back but thank you for joining

[45:16] us audience members

[48:14] OK and a little bit of

[48:16] housekeeping if you go out

[48:17] this door don't go out the

[48:19] second door. The restrooms are

[48:20] just the first door down to the

[48:21] right the restrooms are there.

[48:22] Second

[48:24] ' m just kidding

[48:28] it'll be very close to it but

[48:29] thank you good morning and you

[48:30] may

[48:34] You out there Benny

[48:37] chair chairman Pinto legislators

[48:44] legislative council staff She

[48:46] Frankcipetti and Nisha Beagunna

[48:47] Nnichelele Italian bush's chin

[48:52] Irish English dashache

[48:55] Italian dachanae city of

[48:58] Gallupbannonish city manager

[49:00] initially so my name is

[49:02] Frankippetti. fourthgenation

[49:02] Gallup,

[49:04] love my hometown I'd have to say

[49:05] that's why I'm still here

[49:08] good place to raise a family

[49:09] fifth generation is here

[49:11] One of these days we'll have a

[49:13] sixthgeneration but right now I

[49:14] have grand dogs

[49:18] welcome welcome to Gallup.

[49:20] we wanted to do a short

[49:21] discussion on the Navajo Gallup

[49:22] water supply project.

[49:25] our mayor being the water

[49:27] engineer that's been involved in

[49:29] this since conception. I think

[49:30] it'd be more appropriate for him

[49:31] to talk about that. Then I've

[49:34] also brought deborah Martinez

[49:35] who runs our behavioral health

[49:38] programs and I brought her in

[49:40] so when we talked the unhoused

[49:41] and housing initiatives

[49:45] she she can give a deeper

[49:46] background and answer more in

[49:48] depth questions than I would be

[49:49] able to. I know a little bit

[49:50] about the city and every

[49:52] component but we have experts

[49:54] so'd like to turn it over to

[49:55] Maor depaulli to talk about our

[49:56] Navajo gallup

[50:00] thanks rank then thanks again

[50:02] for coming to madam chair and

[50:02] everybody already gave an

[50:04] introduction and welcome so

[50:06] thenavel gallup project as you

[50:07] guys know has been in the works

[50:11] for over100 years1922 is when it

[50:12] was first started and we're not

[50:13] gonna go through all the

[50:14] tribulations and stuff but it

[50:17] was delayed in in 2019. the

[50:19] delivery date was supposed to be

[50:22] December31st,2024. that

[50:23] delayed that data has been

[50:25] delayed because of some some mac

[50:26] operational things that that

[50:27] would enhance the

[50:28] project.

[50:31] so right now the del delivery

[50:34] date is set for about 2030.

[50:35] hopefully by then the we'll

[50:37] have the rest of the the water

[50:38] treatment plant done and the the

[50:39] water delivery facilities

[50:42] installed and we'll be seeing

[50:44] drinking water in gallup and

[50:45] that means also all of our

[50:47] neighbors to the north twin

[50:50] Lakes of course Tohatchie and

[50:51] all the chapters around Gallup

[50:54] fromhurch rockyambato read

[50:57] springs umchilta ed rockck

[50:58] magnuitto Wa be distributed all

[51:01] through town but right now

[51:03] we're still on groundwater and

[51:04] we really appreciate all the the

[51:06] help that the state has given us

[51:07] by supplementing the delay in

[51:09] the the compensating for the

[51:11] delay and the delivery of the

[51:13] surface water by giving us money

[51:15] to drill wells so far we've

[51:17] drilled about 6 wells and we

[51:18] should have all three of those

[51:21] equipped unfortunately

[51:23] because of switch gear and

[51:24] that's electrical switch gear

[51:27] and and pumps we use the same

[51:28] switch gear and pumps that they

[51:31] use in the oil industry and when

[51:33] oil's100 dollars a barrel

[51:35] it's hard to get that those

[51:36] companies to want even come to

[51:38] gallup so we are having a little

[51:39] bit of struggle getting our

[51:41] water wells equipped with the

[51:42] proper pumps and switch gear.

[51:46] with that umc again should we

[51:46] should have hopefully the I

[51:48] think the water is on time to be

[51:49] delivered so the surface water

[51:50] should be here but in the

[51:51] meantime we're still struggling

[51:52] with groundwater

[51:55] and if you do and if anybody has

[51:56] any questions about thearbo

[51:57] gallup or anything I'd be glad

[51:58] to answer them.

[52:05] Yeah let's go ahead and have you

[52:06] all present and then we'll take

[52:06] questions after so

[52:15] Thank you vice chair.

[52:17] attached you you we were giving

[52:18] you several graphs

[52:21] last winter

[52:25] for the unhoused

[52:29] ally gallup has a number

[52:33] and

[52:35] we were working to

[52:39] I'm not plugged in sorry once

[52:41] again we did a warming center

[52:43] last winter. thank you very much

[52:45] legislative council services

[52:46] is always on top of things

[52:48] we

[52:52] had a warming center to try to

[52:55] prevent exposure deaths

[52:57] gallup traditionally has a large

[52:58] number of exposure desks

[53:02] it's it's not uncommon to see

[53:03] subzero temperatures in Gallllup

[53:04] during the wintertime.

[53:08] so December 22nd through

[53:10] February 28, we had a warming

[53:13] center we leased a portion of a

[53:17] motel provided daily ser

[53:20] or evening services for them.

[53:20] I'm not gonna say it was a

[53:21] smooth

[53:27] it it had some roadblocks

[53:29] people wanting to bring alcohol

[53:32] in weapons in some violence

[53:35] so as we started we we had to

[53:36] be equipped a little bit deeper

[53:36] with security

[53:39] and and other things to keep

[53:40] staff safe

[53:44] it it it we were hoping for

[53:46] something smooth, appreciated,

[53:47] I'm gonna say some families

[53:48] did

[53:51] it was troubling to see

[53:52] having to see children

[53:52] coming in

[53:53] to it

[53:57] so it it did serve its

[53:58] purpose

[54:00] but with not without

[54:02] roadblocks and and that's

[54:02] something that

[54:06] the group that does take it this

[54:08] next year if they want to. city

[54:09] he'd be happy to be the fiscal

[54:11] agent but we're asking

[54:13] another group some some of

[54:14] the groups that are wanting to

[54:15] do cooling and warming centers

[54:16] in the area

[54:18] and are directly with the

[54:20] unhoused already might already

[54:22] have that expertise to to do it

[54:22] more than what the city did.

[54:28] again we provide services

[54:28] we have

[54:32] groups that that meet offer

[54:34] services but when we're offering

[54:36] services we're offering to to

[54:38] external agencies we the city

[54:40] itself doesn't do the direct

[54:40] services

[54:42] so we were stepping up on this

[54:43] almost

[54:46] expected to be more of a direct

[54:47] service which we're not equipped

[54:49] to do so we'd like to see

[54:50] another one of the groups

[54:53] take it but again they can't

[54:56] really be the fiscal agent so I

[54:58] I will offer the city services

[54:59] to be that fiscal agent and help

[55:00] coordinate the financing portion

[55:03] but when it comes down to the

[55:05] programming portion again we

[55:07] would love to do intakes we

[55:08] would love to help with the

[55:10] referrals but we'd like to see

[55:11] somebody who's equipped

[55:13] dealing with all the

[55:15] components of the unhoused to

[55:16] actually do the services itself

[55:18] so we don't want it to go away

[55:21] but at the same time we don't

[55:23] want to be the direct portion

[55:24] because again safety for our

[55:24] staff

[55:26] and and then

[55:30] we have knowledge but we're not

[55:32] experts OK a lot of data

[55:34] there for you and deb if you'd

[55:36] like to talk about the the data

[55:41] did a great job. again we we

[55:43] do have these type of services

[55:46] to to break down the data and

[55:47] and to

[55:49] I can't think of the name of

[55:50] your

[55:53] ro up that each of your grants

[55:54] has to have that breaks the data

[55:55] down

[55:58] evaluate evaluator. we do have

[56:00] those type of services so she

[56:00] does a great job with the data

[56:04] madam chairir committee

[56:06] like we did we did a pilot

[56:08] project with the emergency

[56:09] shelter we contracted with

[56:12] various programs they are

[56:14] listed here we had

[56:17] transport services we use the

[56:20] hotel we gallupunity Health

[56:22] was actually the ones operating

[56:24] it but it took a lot of

[56:26] manpower and you'll see some of

[56:26] the recommendations out of of

[56:31] the the warming shelter so we

[56:36] had 292,971 intakes and out of

[56:38] those there was 636 unique

[56:40] individuals so you'll see split

[56:42] it opened by population

[56:45] and then the highest number of

[56:48] stays there was 63 but you'll

[56:49] see that a majority of the

[56:51] people didn't stay less than5

[56:52] days.

[56:55] you'll see the population

[56:57] we didn't break it down by the

[56:58] time that we had got this going

[57:00] it was kind of a last minute

[57:01] thing it was an emergency

[57:04] shelter 64% of the individuals

[57:06] are from McKinley County. you'll

[57:08] see the ethnicity the age range

[57:10] and then the percentage of time

[57:12] they were homelessness and then

[57:13] which was interesting was the

[57:16] barriers to housing a lot of

[57:17] individuals had missing

[57:19] documents had substance use

[57:21] disorder, no housing for a large

[57:22] families

[57:25] access to services, access to

[57:26] communication, no physical

[57:28] mailing address, mental health

[57:29] and rental prices

[57:39] Thank you Deb we also do

[57:42] outreach monthly where our

[57:44] law enforcement fire, any

[57:45] agency that wants to go along

[57:48] with us and and then Deb's

[57:50] department goes out and and

[57:53] actually walks the ditches,

[57:56] walks the area of traditional

[57:58] unhoused locations a lot of our

[57:58] transient camps and they go and

[57:59] visit

[58:04] and we we try to talk to him

[58:06] build trust, offer services

[58:08] find what the underlying causes

[58:10] if it's housing how how can we

[58:12] help refer you to to some place

[58:14] to help with housing if it's

[58:15] missing documents we we can help

[58:17] to try to get him the documents

[58:19] for substance abuse we can do

[58:20] referrals but I'm gonna say

[58:22] that's that's very difficult in

[58:23] our area without mandatory

[58:28] required

[58:29] they they don't want to go

[58:30] they don't wanna stay

[58:34] we're we're finding that our

[58:37] ditch roerco

[58:40] the the river system is a haven

[58:45] for the unhoused a lot of it

[58:46] falls under state jurisdiction.

[58:48] a lot of it falls under

[58:49] Burlington Northern railroad

[58:51] jurisdiction. some of it we have

[58:54] no jurisdiction whatsoever so it

[58:57] it becomes a a mecca for

[59:00] prostitution for drugs used

[59:02] to be alcohol which was easier

[59:03] to deal with but now it's

[59:04] fentanyl it's meth

[59:07] it it it's it's getting deeper

[59:10] I believe in the the mayor's

[59:11] opening he talked about the

[59:12] trafficking

[59:15] and and it's amazing to hear how

[59:17] many young girls that oh I just

[59:18] had a ride into town and and and

[59:19] they left me

[59:20] that that's a cover

[59:24] they're they're here they're

[59:26] being they're being marketed

[59:28] it's it's a sad and and it's

[59:29] very difficult for us they

[59:30] haven't committed a crime that

[59:32] we know of. we know what's

[59:34] happening but to prove it and

[59:35] when they just tell you I'm I'm

[59:36] here voluntarily I was left. I

[59:37] don't want services

[59:40] and they walk across the bridge

[59:42] away from you and immediately

[59:44] get picked up by somebody you

[59:45] know they're being trafficked it

[59:46] it it's it's a sad

[59:48] sad step so

[59:51] anything we can get for

[59:54] mandatory treatment for those

[59:56] that are not competent because

[59:56] of the heavy drug use

[59:59] or anything that can be helped

[1:00:00] with

[1:00:04] the the trafficking any laws

[1:00:04] that you can do would be a great

[1:00:05] help.

[1:00:08] during these outreach this year

[1:00:08] we're starting to collect deeper

[1:00:09] data

[1:00:12] one of them I brought was

[1:00:13] where where the people are

[1:00:14] coming from

[1:00:14] so we did two

[1:00:17] two so far August and September

[1:00:20] for this fiscal year

[1:00:24] these are low numbers

[1:00:27] august we hit I believe

[1:00:30] around50 some people the

[1:00:31] September 1 we hit a little

[1:00:32] over100

[1:00:35] so it's it's not the best data

[1:00:37] because of the small population

[1:00:38] numbers but but you can see

[1:00:43] where where the where the people

[1:00:45] are coming from. In august

[1:00:46] everybodydy talked to us it was

[1:00:48] it was nice to hear and and you

[1:00:50] can see the breakdown of of

[1:00:50] where the people came from

[1:00:54] Gallup might be over emphasized

[1:00:57] um73% doesn't mean they're from

[1:00:58] Gallup. We know Gallup has a new

[1:00:59] meaning

[1:01:02] people used to laugh when

[1:01:03] they tell me they come from

[1:01:05] Comato and I'm like ok which

[1:01:06] direction

[1:01:08] because there's not many people

[1:01:10] in Comaro you know they live in

[1:01:12] Apache Creek if they live east

[1:01:14] ofummoto towards Dadl west north

[1:01:15] they're from Comado even though

[1:01:17] they're not inomado well that's

[1:01:18] the same for gallup

[1:01:22] September we we had a lot

[1:01:22] refused to talk to us.

[1:01:25] it's sad to see that that huge

[1:01:28] left b block blue block just

[1:01:30] refused to give us information

[1:01:31] but we have people coming from

[1:01:32] Texas

[1:01:34] navajo Nation

[1:01:36] Zunni, or

[1:01:41] when I put arizona I don't put

[1:01:42] the

[1:01:42] chinnley

[1:01:45] granato. I I count those as

[1:01:47] Navonation. So this group from

[1:01:51] that that 2% from arizona we're

[1:01:54] talking Phoenix, Tucson, those

[1:01:55] type of places and what we're

[1:01:56] finding with a lot of those as

[1:01:58] we talk to them they come to

[1:01:59] gallup for treatment

[1:02:00] or

[1:02:03] they get on a bus

[1:02:06] or they're kicked off a train

[1:02:09] they can get intoxicated on the

[1:02:10] train the next stop the train

[1:02:10] stops

[1:02:11] you're removed

[1:02:15] they have a bus ticket and this

[1:02:17] is as far as they get. we've

[1:02:18] we've actually talked to some

[1:02:19] people last year

[1:02:22] several Africanericans it's like

[1:02:24] hey what brought you to gallup?

[1:02:25] It's like well we were going

[1:02:26] west and this is as far as we

[1:02:27] had money to get.

[1:02:29] this was the bus stop that our

[1:02:30] ticket ran out

[1:02:30] here we are

[1:02:36] that type of stuff we see

[1:02:37] some that go to treatment

[1:02:39] they either voluntarily say I'm

[1:02:40] done with this because there's

[1:02:42] no again no mandatory to

[1:02:44] complete treatment they walk out

[1:02:46] after 2 days,80 days whatever

[1:02:46] they walk out

[1:02:49] they don't have the money to get

[1:02:50] back home

[1:02:53] some of them actually graduate

[1:02:54] from these programs

[1:02:57] they don't have the money to go

[1:02:58] back home

[1:03:00] and unfortunately then we're

[1:03:00] seeing

[1:03:02] they graduate from these

[1:03:02] programs

[1:03:05] they don't have the housing they

[1:03:06] don't have the workforce

[1:03:09] they start the cycle all over

[1:03:11] again we know if they end up

[1:03:12] back in that real perco

[1:03:14] within 30 days they're going to

[1:03:14] be using again it's sad to say

[1:03:18] the last giraffe is a much

[1:03:20] better representation this is

[1:03:20] well over1000 people.

[1:03:22] these are the people done

[1:03:24] intakes at NCI who come to NCI

[1:03:30] and and when I say come tonCI we

[1:03:32] do allow people come to NCI who

[1:03:32] are clean

[1:03:36] that need a place to stay for

[1:03:36] the night, especially in the

[1:03:37] cold months.

[1:03:40] um, especially before we had the

[1:03:42] warming shelter we allow them

[1:03:43] to come if you're clean when you

[1:03:44] come in and you're clean the

[1:03:45] next morning

[1:03:45] have a great day

[1:03:49] you got a nice bed you got your

[1:03:50] clothes washed showered, fed

[1:03:54] and and you can go bo about your

[1:03:56] life now if they are intoxicated

[1:03:57] we do do72hoho tip

[1:04:04] twelvehour and72 hour depending

[1:04:04] on how many times they've been

[1:04:05] to the facility in the last th30

[1:04:06] days.

[1:04:09] so so we have some that we hold

[1:04:10] longer

[1:04:15] this so this is much better data

[1:04:17] and again Texas, Colorado

[1:04:18] arizona

[1:04:21] other portions of New Mexico

[1:04:23] Navajo Nation Zunni

[1:04:25] gallopingam merkel and then the

[1:04:27] rema and when I sayRama it's

[1:04:29] it's ramah pine hill area so you

[1:04:31] know we're seeing a large number

[1:04:33] and and this is where we're

[1:04:34] we're asking you

[1:04:37] we're we're funding NCI with

[1:04:39] with the money that that we get

[1:04:40] granted

[1:04:43] we're we're looking for other

[1:04:45] support this is a national

[1:04:46] problem as you can see by the

[1:04:47] other states

[1:04:49] and it's anavajo nation problem

[1:04:53] and it's a gallup problem so

[1:04:54] working trying to work in

[1:04:55] conjunction with all parties

[1:04:59] so

[1:05:02] it it it's just something I

[1:05:04] wanted to to put on the table to

[1:05:06] to see what we have and then

[1:05:06] open that discussion

[1:05:08] We do have gallup housing

[1:05:13] authority who are doing the

[1:05:14] the low income housing

[1:05:16] great to see

[1:05:18] they are maxed out

[1:05:20] they have a long waiting list

[1:05:24] they're now looking at working

[1:05:26] towards the people who've timed

[1:05:28] out within their program they've

[1:05:29] been in the maximum number of

[1:05:32] years months and and now they

[1:05:33] have to move to the next level

[1:05:34] housing workforce housing so

[1:05:36] they're they're starting to look

[1:05:37] at that and Gallllup is also

[1:05:38] starting we have several

[1:05:40] potential

[1:05:43] residential sites where the city

[1:05:44] of Gallup owns land

[1:05:48] we would like to really start

[1:05:48] turning that land into

[1:05:54] the housing to start opening the

[1:05:55] low rent housing

[1:05:58] to some of these unhoused type

[1:06:01] to to who qualify and start

[1:06:02] taking those that are now aging

[1:06:03] out

[1:06:06] of the low income into the

[1:06:08] workforce development,

[1:06:11] tho those families as soon as

[1:06:12] they age out where are they

[1:06:12] going

[1:06:14] Gallup doesn't have workforce

[1:06:14] housing.

[1:06:17] we have market rate housing

[1:06:20] and the market rates in Gallup

[1:06:20] are high.

[1:06:24] so we'd like to build more of a

[1:06:25] workforce smaller homes

[1:06:29] we would love to do senior

[1:06:30] we're building a new senior

[1:06:32] center and we thank your

[1:06:33] Department of Aging for

[1:06:34] everything they've done for us.

[1:06:36] It's it's fabulous. we're

[1:06:37] looking at a grand opening in

[1:06:38] November so we'll be sending

[1:06:39] invites out

[1:06:41] it's going to be a beautiful

[1:06:45] center generator will

[1:06:47] actually have an emergency

[1:06:49] shelter for elderly therefore

[1:06:50] when the power goes out

[1:06:52] those type of things

[1:06:55] we would love we own the land

[1:06:56] across the street. we would love

[1:06:58] to see senior housing because

[1:06:59] we're seeing that's another need

[1:06:59] also

[1:07:03] so we were doing research we've

[1:07:05] looked in Gunnison we've looked

[1:07:07] at other places that have

[1:07:08] presented to the International

[1:07:10] cityity Manag's association who

[1:07:12] are doing wonderful workforce

[1:07:15] developing housing and how with

[1:07:16] the startup money

[1:07:18] they then can take over

[1:07:22] with their revenue to escalate

[1:07:25] it and continue it for for the

[1:07:26] initial investment. So we're

[1:07:28] doing that research and we will

[1:07:30] be applying to all the available

[1:07:31] programs both state and

[1:07:34] federally to get us that seed

[1:07:36] money to build the first complex

[1:07:39] type thing and then move we're

[1:07:40] also working with some

[1:07:42] behavioral health agencies as I

[1:07:42] said they you go for addiction

[1:07:45] you come out clean in 90 days?

[1:07:50] where do you go? Nobody has the

[1:07:52] transitional housing where to go

[1:07:54] so we are talking with some of

[1:07:55] them we just met with our

[1:07:57] Corners new staff. they have a

[1:08:00] new CEO and we met with them a

[1:08:02] couple weeks ago and and and I

[1:08:03] pitched the idea wed pitched it

[1:08:04] to him last year there was some

[1:08:06] momentum excitement then they

[1:08:08] changed people and it was quiet

[1:08:08] during the last legislative

[1:08:10] season. I didn't want to come

[1:08:12] ask for anything not knowing if

[1:08:14] it was wanted or not this year

[1:08:15] it looks like it's gonna be

[1:08:16] wanted they would love to build

[1:08:16] a

[1:08:19] transitional one year housing so

[1:08:20] as they graduate from these

[1:08:22] treatment centers they can move

[1:08:22] into group housing

[1:08:25] and in that group housing they

[1:08:26] have the camaraderie they have

[1:08:28] the counseling a place where the

[1:08:29] PO can meet with them

[1:08:31] they have the individual

[1:08:33] counseling but more importantly

[1:08:36] we can offer them a set location

[1:08:38] for the public transportation,

[1:08:40] working with other agencies to

[1:08:41] get them into workforce

[1:08:43] development. give them that one

[1:08:45] year of clean life, building

[1:08:47] skills to where they graduate

[1:08:48] that next year

[1:08:51] hopefully they've got a small

[1:08:52] next stake to go where they want

[1:08:54] whether it's back home whether

[1:08:56] it's here and then to live clean

[1:09:00] in in the next transition

[1:09:01] without having to go back on the

[1:09:02] street

[1:09:04] and and and start the cycle over

[1:09:07] so those are some of the things

[1:09:08] that we're looking at doing

[1:09:10] we're we're excited about and

[1:09:12] we're starting to get other

[1:09:14] agencies to look with us and I

[1:09:16] think that's important. City

[1:09:17] can't do it by herself. The

[1:09:19] outside agencies can't do it by

[1:09:20] theirsel but with good

[1:09:20] partnerships I think we're going

[1:09:21] to get there

[1:09:24] so we would all love to stand

[1:09:24] for questions

[1:09:28] thank you memberspresentative

[1:09:28] Luundstone

[1:09:31] thank you madam chair and I'd

[1:09:33] like to thank the panel this

[1:09:34] morning for being here. A

[1:09:35] coupleup of questions that I did

[1:09:38] have in august we had a joint

[1:09:39] committee hearing federal funds

[1:09:40] stabilization with the health

[1:09:41] committee

[1:09:44] that was over at the county

[1:09:46] and it's interesting to listen

[1:09:48] about how we need other

[1:09:50] support regre regarding some of

[1:09:52] these services for the homeless

[1:09:54] and behavioral health services

[1:09:55] one of the issues that was

[1:09:57] brought up and actually being

[1:09:59] initiated by some of the members

[1:10:01] of this committee is asking for

[1:10:02] an increase in alcohol tax.

[1:10:07] and I'm asking you guys don't

[1:10:08] have to tell me now what you

[1:10:09] think about it but obviously

[1:10:10] I'll want to know before the

[1:10:13] session starts where does the

[1:10:15] city stand on increase for

[1:10:18] alcohol tax to try to get some

[1:10:20] of these things dealt with as

[1:10:21] I've mentioned in that committee

[1:10:24] hearing, McKinley County already

[1:10:25] has a liquor excise tax at5%.

[1:10:29] what this bill is calling for as

[1:10:32] an additional5% on top of that

[1:10:32] and

[1:10:35] the important thing to remember

[1:10:36] though is that it is

[1:10:38] considerable increase in money

[1:10:40] coming back to Mcinley County.

[1:10:42] You get about a million dollars

[1:10:45] in liquor excise tax now but if

[1:10:46] this additional tax was included

[1:10:50] what I saw on that chart was

[1:10:52] about 2 million that comes back

[1:10:53] to the county for services.

[1:10:54] obviouslybviously the city too

[1:10:57] but I need to know where you

[1:10:59] stand. I haven't voted for that

[1:11:00] bill and I serve on the tax

[1:11:01] committee. I haven't voted for

[1:11:03] it the last two times, but I

[1:11:04] need to know where we are on

[1:11:06] this I know we're going to

[1:11:08] have a separate meeting with the

[1:11:09] chamber. they're going to have a

[1:11:11] separate legislative meeting

[1:11:12] with all of its local

[1:11:13] legislators. I don't know if

[1:11:15] this will be an issue or not but

[1:11:16] I think it's important for the

[1:11:18] members of this committee as you

[1:11:18] see who who's here

[1:11:22] where do you guys stand on

[1:11:24] this? We don't we don't have to

[1:11:26] answer it today but we will need

[1:11:26] to know before the beginning of

[1:11:27] the session

[1:11:31] the other question I had is

[1:11:33] regarding the Navajo Gallup

[1:11:34] water supply project as the

[1:11:36] mayor knows, I have a long long

[1:11:39] history with that project and

[1:11:40] I'd like to ask

[1:11:43] is the proportional cost

[1:11:48] allocated to the s so the the

[1:11:50] cost of the pipeline. it's one

[1:11:50] project with two major pipelines

[1:11:54] so I'm curious is the hickoria

[1:11:55] site open now? iss it up and

[1:11:55] running?

[1:12:00] ma'am OK. so hickory is up and

[1:12:02] running because the state of New

[1:12:04] Mexico has put considerable

[1:12:07] money in this project as match

[1:12:08] you know we have the Indian

[1:12:10] water rights piece in the in the

[1:12:12] budget and we've put a lot of

[1:12:13] money through the New Mexico

[1:12:14] finance Authority through the

[1:12:16] waterterrust board through

[1:12:16] Capital outlay

[1:12:19] to try to offset the match

[1:12:21] that's required by the feds I

[1:12:23] know the city's match is75

[1:12:26] million but we have also tried

[1:12:29] to help with with state funds my

[1:12:32] my question is then have we

[1:12:33] resolved all the match

[1:12:34] requirement for

[1:12:40] madam chair andpresentative

[1:12:42] Lumstrom so the way that the

[1:12:44] project works is that there was

[1:12:47] a repayment contract required

[1:12:49] for hickoryia and for the city

[1:12:51] of Gallup but the biggest part

[1:12:52] of the whole project was the

[1:12:54] settlement amount of50 million

[1:12:56] dollars that the city that the

[1:12:56] state of New Mexico was to pay

[1:13:00] so all of the initial monies

[1:13:01] from the waterrust board there

[1:13:03] was actually some cash and some

[1:13:04] other grant monies that went

[1:13:05] into the project be it for

[1:13:08] actual capitalX projects or cash

[1:13:10] went to the state of New

[1:13:12] Mexico's portion and that was

[1:13:15] that was satisfied in about

[1:13:17] 2017. Since then the rest of the

[1:13:19] monies have been applied either

[1:13:21] to hickoria for their their cost

[1:13:22] what they call their obligation

[1:13:25] or or the city of gallups

[1:13:27] from what from what I understand

[1:13:28] everything on part of the

[1:13:30] hickorya has been satisfied and

[1:13:31] they are in some type of

[1:13:34] repayment contract to make

[1:13:36] sure they repay and thanks to

[1:13:38] all of our congressmen and the

[1:13:39] administ the current

[1:13:41] administration we have a76

[1:13:44] million dollars cost cap because

[1:13:46] of the delay the project went

[1:13:48] from about what we thought would

[1:13:50] be about1.1 billion it's almost

[1:13:51] over 2.3 and of course the

[1:13:52] city's port

[1:13:54] ion of that is is an average of

[1:13:59] about 8%. and so that's a lot

[1:14:01] of money for a town for a small

[1:14:03] town topa so we do have our cost

[1:14:06] gap and we have an any since the

[1:14:08] state's obligation has been met

[1:14:09] any monies that go into the

[1:14:11] Navajo Gallup project. so far we

[1:14:13] have another 8 million coming

[1:14:15] from waterrust board and we

[1:14:16] anticipate another 8 or10

[1:14:17] million for the pumping plant

[1:14:18] each will will be the final

[1:14:21] component of the city system we

[1:14:22] should get full credit for those

[1:14:22] and that'll go

[1:14:24] toward our76 million dollars

[1:14:26] match which should

[1:14:29] finalize all the city's money

[1:14:31] now we do have a loan

[1:14:33] obligations we did get through

[1:14:35] the waterrust board 6040 loans

[1:14:36] so we have about18 million

[1:14:39] dollars in loans we are repaying

[1:14:41] at a much lower percentage rate

[1:14:42] than the federal government the

[1:14:44] federal government's about4% the

[1:14:46] state of New Mexico is about 25%

[1:14:48] so it is a no brainer what we

[1:14:50] did on those so the only the

[1:14:51] only last piece of the puzzle

[1:14:54] is what they call interest

[1:14:56] during construction and that is

[1:14:59] a what this federal government

[1:15:01] charges all the participants

[1:15:03] during the construction portion

[1:15:05] of the project it's not interest

[1:15:06] on loan it's it's interest

[1:15:07] during construction so that

[1:15:09] component is the last thing that

[1:15:10] we are negotiating. We don't

[1:15:12] know if the76 million dollars

[1:15:14] includes the interest during

[1:15:15] construction I'm looking at

[1:15:16] Frank because he's the onen

[1:15:18] working on it or if it's gonna

[1:15:19] or if that's gonna be in charge

[1:15:20] to addition so that's the last

[1:15:21] component that we're worried

[1:15:22] about

[1:15:23] p re s ent ative Lunstrom

[1:15:26] so madam Chair, does that

[1:15:29] mean at least the city's

[1:15:32] responsibility of 676 million is

[1:15:35] resolved it's resolved except

[1:15:36] for the the interest or in

[1:15:38] construction and that interest

[1:15:40] would be at at a4% on the

[1:15:41] remaining components of

[1:15:44] construction which is about

[1:15:49] about $6600 million so that

[1:15:51] has not been resolved yet. We

[1:15:52] still need to with our repayment

[1:15:53] contract our revised re

[1:15:55] pa y ment contract come up with

[1:15:58] a plan and a formula of how we

[1:15:58] will be addressing the interest

[1:15:59] during construction

[1:16:01] and that an interest in

[1:16:02] construction is an elaborate

[1:16:05] thing that the federal

[1:16:06] government came up with 100

[1:16:07] years ago with the bureau of

[1:16:09] reclamation since they built the

[1:16:10] Hooveramm

[1:16:13] p re s ent ed Lonestrom if if I

[1:16:14] can add

[1:16:17] luckily we've minimized gallup's

[1:16:18] interest during

[1:16:22] we've

[1:16:23] prepaid

[1:16:28] most of ours so as as we get the

[1:16:30] waterru board as as we're

[1:16:32] building we're making those

[1:16:34] payments so they can't try to

[1:16:36] charge us interest when we're

[1:16:36] paying

[1:16:39] going through so we've

[1:16:42] minimized ours our component.

[1:16:45] So really126 million of that 2.1

[1:16:47] billion is going to be coming

[1:16:49] from either gallup or the state

[1:16:51] of New Mexico so I think when

[1:16:52] you look at the cost

[1:16:54] proportionate of the number of

[1:16:56] lines and such I think we're

[1:16:58] coming out pretty fair yeah

[1:16:59] we're coming up very fair.

[1:17:02] I I will speak for our

[1:17:04] surrounding area though we we

[1:17:06] really need to stay on the

[1:17:06] bureau of reclamation

[1:17:09] to ensure that the other

[1:17:10] portions you know we're always

[1:17:11] worried about gallup

[1:17:14] we needed to build pumping

[1:17:16] plant eight and we still need to

[1:17:19] build reach 2712 which goes

[1:17:20] through Caulpa hills and comes

[1:17:22] out by Redhill's mobilele

[1:17:23] Homeark that's the last

[1:17:24] components of gallup

[1:17:26] but but we still have going

[1:17:29] south we we've still got the

[1:17:30] RedRock chapter we've still got

[1:17:32] chielta resprings we have to

[1:17:35] think of our family members who

[1:17:36] live in the county who

[1:17:38] who are still as I said they're

[1:17:40] still gallup even though they

[1:17:42] don't live in the city limits we

[1:17:44] still consider him gallup. So,

[1:17:45] so we need to make sure that

[1:17:47] those are continuing and then of

[1:17:48] course we need to keep ensuring

[1:17:50] that IHs is going to be doing

[1:17:52] their component.'s great to have

[1:17:53] a water line but if it's not

[1:17:56] connected to a house that water

[1:17:56] line doesn't do any good

[1:18:00] so we're we're we're still

[1:18:02] stressing those we're still

[1:18:05] negotiating for we're we're

[1:18:06] going through with continuing

[1:18:06] resolutions every year

[1:18:10] they they still need to pony

[1:18:11] up the federal government needs

[1:18:12] to pony up that final

[1:18:15] to get the full project paid for

[1:18:16] it's not100% paid for at this

[1:18:17] date.

[1:18:20] they've got enough to satisfy

[1:18:21] the contracts that have been

[1:18:22] given this year

[1:18:23] but not those future

[1:18:27] as the southern component's

[1:18:28] going to our brothers and

[1:18:30] sisters south of Gallllup and

[1:18:30] those those components

[1:18:32] the money hasn't come up with

[1:18:33] yet

[1:18:35] so yes we can get water to

[1:18:36] gallup

[1:18:38] but can we get water to all

[1:18:42] those again this is a a rights

[1:18:42] water rights settlement

[1:18:46] gallup's very fortunate to be

[1:18:48] part of it but let's let's

[1:18:50] make sure it does what it's

[1:18:51] intended and and sometimes with

[1:18:53] the federal government we don't

[1:18:54] see that follow through so we

[1:18:56] want to continue lobbying and I

[1:18:58] would really love to think

[1:18:59] Representative Johnson

[1:19:01] andrerepresentative Luundstrom

[1:19:04] for earlier this year going to

[1:19:07] Dc and and helping us open doors

[1:19:10] to talk to the other legislature

[1:19:12] our federal legislators that

[1:19:13] we need to Luhan

[1:19:19] and and and heinrich being very

[1:19:21] instrumental in carrying the

[1:19:24] bills and pushing hard to ensure

[1:19:24] we got the cost cap

[1:19:25] plus

[1:19:29] other allocations to get that

[1:19:30] pumping plant bid out and

[1:19:30] started on construction

[1:19:33] so very big thank you to both of

[1:19:34] you for

[1:19:38] helping take some additional

[1:19:38] muscle up there

[1:19:42] they were our bodyguards on the

[1:19:43] street too

[1:19:45] madam Chair the reason I raised

[1:19:47] this is because if the project

[1:19:49] can't demonstrate beneficial use

[1:19:52] by actual people using it using

[1:19:54] the water we have problems in

[1:19:56] river City and what I mean is

[1:19:58] these chapters have to be part

[1:20:00] of this they are the reason

[1:20:01] we're getting this. it's an

[1:20:03] Indian water rights settlement

[1:20:04] without the chapters we ain't

[1:20:07] got a project. So I I think we

[1:20:08] got a whatever those hiccups

[1:20:12] are this is the right committee

[1:20:14] to hear that and I'd like to

[1:20:16] get something in writing from

[1:20:18] you Frank all of us would just

[1:20:20] so we know what we need to be

[1:20:21] talking about

[1:20:24] because we're we don't mind

[1:20:25] going back we don't mind

[1:20:26] fighting for this and

[1:20:29] working with the Navajo Nation

[1:20:30] and whoever but we got to know

[1:20:31] what we're fighting for and I

[1:20:33] think we have to demonstrate

[1:20:34] beneficial use and that means

[1:20:35] that these chapters need to be

[1:20:37] hooked up. Thank you madam

[1:20:39] Chair. Thank you Representative

[1:20:41] Lindstrom. and and and I will

[1:20:42] assure you north

[1:20:45] we have supported all the

[1:20:46] additional reaches. the reach

[1:20:50] going from down route 9 to

[1:20:52] Coyote Canyon sandingRock all

[1:20:55] the way to Crown pointint we we

[1:20:56] supported the reaches going from

[1:20:58] ya to hai to to Sebonito

[1:21:00] winnderrock we supported the

[1:21:03] ones closer to sheepsprings

[1:21:06] and and Nachiri going west to to

[1:21:09] the chapters off of491. of

[1:21:11] course all all of them down491.

[1:21:12] we've also supported going east

[1:21:15] down Padre CanyonRoad towards

[1:21:17] RedRock Park, ChurchRock,

[1:21:18] Yimbato we're we're ensuring

[1:21:20] that that water delivery is also

[1:21:22] there in the mechanisms

[1:21:24] they're talking now about

[1:21:25] addinguppton. I know it's going

[1:21:27] out of your jurisdiction but

[1:21:28] they're talking going west so

[1:21:30] that's part portion of yours

[1:21:33] through mintmore to the state

[1:21:35] line but then going on touppton

[1:21:38] and Sanders and and you know

[1:21:40] we've been very supportive of

[1:21:41] that also even even offering

[1:21:42] to take

[1:21:43] the land from

[1:21:47] yata ha going that way so you

[1:21:49] know we're supporting that I

[1:21:50] will say right now until this

[1:21:53] project is finished we're we're

[1:21:55] holding off doing full support

[1:21:57] for the western Navajo

[1:22:00] settlement it's a different

[1:22:04] river basin it and in arizona

[1:22:05] as you look at the western part

[1:22:08] of the arizona they're they're

[1:22:09] wanting water out of the

[1:22:10] Colorado and and of course

[1:22:13] that's the lower basin a lot

[1:22:14] more political you're now

[1:22:14] dealing with Nevada

[1:22:16] Montana

[1:22:22] Utah, Nevada arizona, or and and

[1:22:24] it's getting a lot more

[1:22:26] political where the upper basin

[1:22:27] we've already got our

[1:22:28] settlement. let's get it built

[1:22:31] and closed and then throw our

[1:22:32] support to to our brothers and

[1:22:36] sisters in in arizona. until

[1:22:38] then though againuppton that

[1:22:40] area we're throwing our support

[1:22:42] because it it's it's different

[1:22:43] they're in our watershed

[1:22:46] right now and and and we can

[1:22:46] prove that Gallup

[1:22:49] where our real perco goes it's

[1:22:50] going through their communities

[1:22:52] let's give them water so the one

[1:22:54] I'm really advocating for right

[1:22:55] now is we've got the north we've

[1:22:57] got the east west is just

[1:22:58] proposed at this date

[1:22:59] but South is on paper

[1:23:02] but we haven't seen any

[1:23:02] construction

[1:23:04] those are the ones that we're

[1:23:04] needing to stand up for

[1:23:08] and and that goes to the zuni

[1:23:10] watershed so you're looking at

[1:23:12] the chapters of ed rock read

[1:23:12] springs and Chichota.

[1:23:17] those three chapters we want to

[1:23:18] ensure that water is getting

[1:23:19] down there and I will say they

[1:23:20] will be ahead of the game as

[1:23:22] soon as this gets there because

[1:23:24] NTUA has a lot of those feeder

[1:23:24] routes already going.

[1:23:28] so as soon as we can supply

[1:23:30] additional water, those other

[1:23:30] homes can be added quicker

[1:23:36] thank youthing elseres

[1:23:38] representative just met madam

[1:23:39] chairir I just like to make sure

[1:23:40] that that we get something in

[1:23:42] writing before we have our big

[1:23:43] legislative meeting for the

[1:23:45] local legislators do you guys

[1:23:46] always do that for us in

[1:23:48] November or December the other

[1:23:49] thing is is that I wanted to ask

[1:23:50] Elo

[1:23:55] want to make sure these chapters

[1:23:57] are knowledgeable about what's

[1:23:58] going on. I mean we got to be in

[1:23:59] the game here

[1:24:02] thank you madam chair

[1:24:04] thank you madam chairir one nice

[1:24:04] to answer Representative

[1:24:05] Lunstrom's first question

[1:24:08] yes I'm I'm not gonna say no

[1:24:08] because debo hit me

[1:24:14] we have always actively pursued

[1:24:17] that extra tax again we are

[1:24:19] moving from seeing liquor

[1:24:21] addiction it's still a major

[1:24:23] issue we're starting to see more

[1:24:26] fentanyl meth, those type of

[1:24:28] addictions but we still have the

[1:24:30] alcohol and that alcohol tax

[1:24:32] does fund the other programs

[1:24:34] that are helping with the other

[1:24:36] addictions we see addiction

[1:24:37] as an addiction whether it's

[1:24:39] alcohol it it is a drug so that

[1:24:42] that extra million dollars

[1:24:44] that's coming in we can go

[1:24:47] beyond NCI the housing the

[1:24:50] intake the offers we can go more

[1:24:52] into treatment and and those

[1:24:54] type of things the the

[1:24:59] the year of transition type

[1:25:01] stuff that I was discussing we

[1:25:03] can do a lot more right now that

[1:25:04] first million is really just

[1:25:04] going to

[1:25:07] our initial programs of tracking

[1:25:12] offering services those type

[1:25:13] of things and of course NCI

[1:25:15] itself which is vital in our

[1:25:17] area but but an extra million

[1:25:18] dollars on top being financed by

[1:25:23] the drug itself it is is

[1:25:24] powerful now if you guys can get

[1:25:26] that more you know we're using

[1:25:27] our marijuana tax money for

[1:25:29] parks and recreation and

[1:25:30] prevention at the youth level

[1:25:36] and and it'll be amiss to say

[1:25:38] deb's groups have all been

[1:25:40] talking to us it's not just an

[1:25:43] added tax. it's limiting the

[1:25:44] number where it can come from

[1:25:48] and if that's possibility that

[1:25:50] would be wonderful too. We are

[1:25:51] seeing the outnumber of alcohol

[1:25:52] establishments in Gallup go

[1:25:52] down?

[1:25:55] but then we're seeing the

[1:25:57] recreational marijuana stuff

[1:26:01] exploding and and if we can get

[1:26:04] a balance amongst them all and

[1:26:04] and and more of a limit

[1:26:07] it it it helps our law

[1:26:11] enforcement with the the DWi or

[1:26:13] driving impaired again the

[1:26:14] more you spread it out

[1:26:16] the harder it is to track the

[1:26:17] harder it is to control and and

[1:26:23] those type of things so if if

[1:26:24] we can limit to where it's more

[1:26:25] manageable

[1:26:26] that would be a lot bigger help

[1:26:27] too

[1:26:30] thank you I have Representative

[1:26:31] Garcia

[1:26:36] thank you madam chair and

[1:26:38] colleagues on the Indian

[1:26:40] affairs committeetee I have a

[1:26:42] number of questions that I would

[1:26:43] like to ask. let me go ahead and

[1:26:45] ask all of them just so you can

[1:26:48] be able to respond to those

[1:26:51] he first of all I also want

[1:26:52] to support and

[1:26:56] say that we do need documents on

[1:26:58] the waterline issue that is

[1:27:02] happening you stated a number

[1:27:04] of numbers and data and

[1:27:07] whatever that that you have

[1:27:08] talked about but if you can put

[1:27:10] that in writing it would be

[1:27:12] easier for us to see what

[1:27:14] what has been made and what's

[1:27:16] what is still needed in those

[1:27:20] areas and a number of people

[1:27:22] and chapters and I guess

[1:27:22] population that

[1:27:26] ' s impacted and will benefit

[1:27:28] from this so if you can provide

[1:27:30] that to us as soon as possible

[1:27:31] like you've done with this

[1:27:32] emergency warming center

[1:27:37] with that what's what section

[1:27:39] of the city government is

[1:27:41] responsible for the emergency

[1:27:42] warming centre

[1:27:44] or was

[1:27:49] madam chair we were the fiscal

[1:27:50] agent

[1:27:50] for that through behavioral

[1:27:51] health

[1:27:58] and who was

[1:28:04] implementing the emergency

[1:28:05] center madam Chair

[1:28:07] Representative Garcia umallllup

[1:28:09] Community Health was the lead

[1:28:10] agency for the

[1:28:15] the implementation howard

[1:28:17] Johnson we rented the two

[1:28:19] ballrooms as a facility we also

[1:28:21] had gallup transnsit do the

[1:28:24] transportation out

[1:28:25] gallupunity antry donated some

[1:28:28] food so it was a well we all

[1:28:30] collaborated together to work on

[1:28:30] this

[1:28:34] and then workforce solutions

[1:28:35] officeice of housing gave us the

[1:28:38] emergency funding and how long

[1:28:40] has this been in operation?

[1:28:42] Madam Cha Representative Garcia

[1:28:44] this was only a pilot project

[1:28:45] just one year which is a

[1:28:51] not even it's like december 22

[1:28:52] through September 28hre

[1:28:52] representative 2.5

[1:29:00] this is just to address people

[1:29:01] that need a place during the

[1:29:02] winter

[1:29:06] but in the meantime we also are

[1:29:08] very much aware of that unho

[1:29:08] individuals within the city

[1:29:14] I'm aware of that these

[1:29:14] individuals

[1:29:19] are coming and going at various

[1:29:21] times but most of them continue

[1:29:22] to be within the city

[1:29:26] and I'm aware that these

[1:29:28] unhealth individual had

[1:29:30] established a camp down by the

[1:29:33] river by the railroad track but

[1:29:36] that has been cleaned out and

[1:29:38] they're no longer there I'm just

[1:29:39] wondering where did they go

[1:29:42] where where are they now that

[1:29:44] I'm sure there are other areas

[1:29:47] that they have been establishing

[1:29:48] and have been going to these

[1:29:49] places

[1:29:51] where are where are they now?

[1:29:55] madam chairir Representative

[1:29:57] Garcia, they do have different

[1:29:58] locations where they move

[1:30:01] throughout the city the city

[1:30:04] does do the camp cleanups

[1:30:06] they clean them up and they're

[1:30:08] back in those locations probably

[1:30:08] within a couple of weeks

[1:30:12] we do have a an independent

[1:30:14] shelter and a shelter at NI

[1:30:20] part of our population about43%

[1:30:22] of those are intakes for shelter

[1:30:24] so we do have that and then the

[1:30:26] independent livinggrame where

[1:30:28] they can come stay leave their

[1:30:31] stuff we do personal

[1:30:32] improvement plan with them we

[1:30:35] have them see a counselor and

[1:30:36] then we have them attend groups

[1:30:38] and then we even just got

[1:30:39] bikes recently so they can go

[1:30:40] look for

[1:30:44] so we have different shelter

[1:30:45] components in NCI

[1:30:51] I see that between December

[1:30:54] 22 and February 28h of this past

[1:30:59] year you have had 2971

[1:31:03] intakes but you were only 636

[1:31:06] were able to receive services

[1:31:10] and be able to utilize the

[1:31:12] warming center so looking at

[1:31:14] that on a yearround basis that

[1:31:16] would really probably triple it

[1:31:17] even more

[1:31:20] people that would be seeking

[1:31:24] services are just be just

[1:31:27] unhouse in the area what is the

[1:31:28] city doing to address that

[1:31:32] madam chairirpresentative Garcia

[1:31:34] we did see a decrease in our

[1:31:38] shelter population at NCI so we

[1:31:40] and we saw the increase at the

[1:31:41] warming shelter the warming

[1:31:42] shelter had

[1:31:46] more relaxed rules whereas

[1:31:48] the detox center it's a a little

[1:31:50] more strict so we've seen that

[1:31:52] population just go to the

[1:31:53] the warming

[1:31:58] I guess my my question is ok we

[1:32:01] have a number of individuals

[1:32:04] that are on house they they're

[1:32:05] here where everybody sees that

[1:32:09] what is the city doing besides

[1:32:11] doing the warming center center

[1:32:14] are depending on NCI what what

[1:32:16] are we doing to to assist and

[1:32:22] any programs anything that's

[1:32:22] being planned for them

[1:32:27] madam chairir Representative

[1:32:28] Garcia like again we're doing

[1:32:31] our our outreach where we're

[1:32:33] trying to make contact with them

[1:32:35] to to get to the root of the

[1:32:36] issues and refer them to

[1:32:41] agencies or programs that

[1:32:43] that will help them but

[1:32:45] again, a lot of these people

[1:32:46] don't want to go to the warming

[1:32:47] center

[1:32:47] because

[1:32:51] they cannot be using alcohol or

[1:32:52] drugs while in the warming

[1:32:52] center

[1:32:54] they don't want to go to NCI

[1:32:59] because if they are intoxicated

[1:33:01] and they have multiple they're

[1:33:03] having to spend longer time

[1:33:04] there and they don't want to

[1:33:06] they went out the next day

[1:33:07] they're looking for their next

[1:33:08] day's fix I hate to say

[1:33:11] so so we have a lot of these

[1:33:12] that are making a choice

[1:33:15] to be unhoused they're making

[1:33:16] that choice we can offer them

[1:33:17] services

[1:33:18] but

[1:33:22] again those services are clean

[1:33:23] to be clean to be getting help

[1:33:26] and and if they don't want that

[1:33:28] they

[1:33:32] they they're gonna live in the

[1:33:33] ditch they would prefer to live

[1:33:35] in the ditch they would be live

[1:33:37] on the side of a somebody's

[1:33:39] house those type of things

[1:33:43] they are adding a huge cost to

[1:33:45] our homeowners and business

[1:33:47] owners because if they're on

[1:33:49] private land state of New Mexico

[1:33:50] inki donations we cannot clean

[1:33:51] up

[1:33:53] if it's private land. So if they

[1:33:55] choose a a portion of a ditch

[1:33:56] that

[1:33:59] is in a business property we

[1:34:00] can't clean it up. law

[1:34:00] enforcement can move them along

[1:34:03] but we can't come in and clean

[1:34:06] it up. it it's a high expense. I

[1:34:08] will say a lot of programs are

[1:34:08] trying to help feed

[1:34:12] they are coming in we have a

[1:34:14] number of projects that that

[1:34:16] feed on a daily basis different

[1:34:18] areas of town and and then we

[1:34:19] have a couple of others that

[1:34:21] provide showers stuff like that

[1:34:22] we're just hoping they're doing

[1:34:24] those intakes and offering the

[1:34:24] help

[1:34:28] not just we feel good we fed you

[1:34:29] but more we're trying to guild

[1:34:30] your trust to get you into a

[1:34:31] program

[1:34:34] thank you for that information

[1:34:37] and madam chair my last

[1:34:41] question would be about the

[1:34:44] because I've I've I I'm aware

[1:34:47] of this experience the city

[1:34:49] employees or anyone that

[1:34:52] deals with the population

[1:34:55] that is unhoused or better known

[1:34:56] as homeless

[1:35:00] they come here and they you know

[1:35:01] they

[1:35:05] they are here because of their

[1:35:07] own problems issues whatever

[1:35:09] their they're here and working

[1:35:12] with one another and what are

[1:35:13] we

[1:35:17] doing any kind of training for

[1:35:18] these employees so they are

[1:35:21] sensitive to the situation and

[1:35:23] and they're not prejudiced

[1:35:25] against them and do what they

[1:35:29] can to help help them when

[1:35:33] when it comes to that do they

[1:35:35] receive specialized training

[1:35:39] to prevent discrimination or any

[1:35:42] kind of treatment for these

[1:35:43] individual I know it's really

[1:35:43] hard to

[1:35:47] tolerate and and deal with a

[1:35:48] situation

[1:35:52] because it's individual

[1:35:54] choices that have been made but

[1:35:56] they're still here and

[1:35:58] they're still part of become

[1:36:01] part of our community while back

[1:36:03] a while ago you said that even

[1:36:05] though the chapters south are

[1:36:08] not part of members of gallup

[1:36:11] but remember I come in about

[1:36:14] every week to pick up hay to

[1:36:16] pick up food and I become a

[1:36:18] member of gallup and contribute

[1:36:18] to to gallup

[1:36:21] ll up in whatever way possible

[1:36:23] even though I live in Ceepola

[1:36:27] County so based on that I

[1:36:30] just want to make sure that

[1:36:34] our people whoever they are re

[1:36:37] whether they'renavajozunni

[1:36:40] non natives that they receive a

[1:36:43] fair treatment and and not

[1:36:45] make fun of that's where I'm

[1:36:46] coming from

[1:36:49] madam chairir Representative

[1:36:51] Garcia we do have a grow our own

[1:36:53] program where we bring in

[1:36:55] counselors and we coach

[1:36:57] individuals into thehavi health

[1:36:59] field and then we take them out

[1:37:00] to do outreach and coach them

[1:37:02] how to interact we provide

[1:37:05] trauma informed care and we also

[1:37:07] have our evaluator come in and

[1:37:10] do a random fidelity checks with

[1:37:12] our groups our counselors and

[1:37:13] then we have them meet with

[1:37:15] young shelter to make sure that

[1:37:16] we are we are provi

[1:37:31] So I hope that it the

[1:37:35] training and working with these

[1:37:37] individuals goes all the way up

[1:37:39] and down from the mayor on down

[1:37:42] that that we do everything we

[1:37:45] can help because we we are

[1:37:47] responsible to our communities

[1:37:48] and our people

[1:37:53] thank you representative vice

[1:37:54] chairir Johnson

[1:37:58] thank you madam chairir. I would

[1:38:01] like to go back well let's go

[1:38:02] ahead and continue with the

[1:38:05] emergency warming center. do you

[1:38:08] have a cost a cost estimate

[1:38:08] or who took care of

[1:38:10] funding that program

[1:38:13] or how how did we fund it? Madam

[1:38:15] Chair Representative Johnson

[1:38:17] workforcelu

[1:38:19] gave us175,000

[1:38:23] I can say that was not enough a

[1:38:24] lot of these programs

[1:38:25] donated a lot

[1:38:30] Thank you and then

[1:38:33] can you give us an update on

[1:38:36] if any or

[1:38:41] for example, Navajo Nation or

[1:38:45] our surrounding neighbors

[1:38:46] tribal communities pueblo

[1:38:52] interest or assistance or

[1:38:54] support from them regarding

[1:39:00] this program and then I lost

[1:39:02] track of how we support NCI

[1:39:02] Thank you.

[1:39:05] madam chairirpresentative

[1:39:08] Johnson we received2 million

[1:39:08] dollars from IHs

[1:39:11] and that funds the majority

[1:39:13] operations of the detox center.

[1:39:17] We also receive 835,000 from the

[1:39:19] local liquor excise tax to fund

[1:39:20] the base services at NCI.

[1:39:24] and madam chairir

[1:39:27] senator, I mean

[1:39:29] senatorpresentative Johnson

[1:39:30] to expand that to we've we've

[1:39:32] just begun talks the mayor did

[1:39:36] talk with Presidentyren.

[1:39:38] he was very receptive and and

[1:39:39] looking at opening their

[1:39:41] treatment facility in Phoenix

[1:39:43] and and creating that type of

[1:39:44] part partnership

[1:39:44] council delegate

[1:39:46] Eray.

[1:39:50] Nelson if I remember right it

[1:39:52] has has actually talked with me

[1:39:53] and said you know these are our

[1:39:55] family members going to town.

[1:39:57] What help do they need to bring

[1:39:58] him home and and why aren't they

[1:40:00] being accepted at home was his

[1:40:00] biggest concern

[1:40:04] so so we are starting to see

[1:40:06] some threads starting to weave

[1:40:08] together of how can we work

[1:40:11] together it's slow and and and

[1:40:13] we'd love to see it getting

[1:40:15] deeper thicker thicker

[1:40:17] woven to where we're all

[1:40:19] working towards the same thing

[1:40:20] cause yes they are coming from

[1:40:22] surrounding areas like

[1:40:24] Representative Garcia said but

[1:40:25] we consider us all

[1:40:30] from the same area so however

[1:40:30] we can work with these other

[1:40:34] legislative bodies. I mean

[1:40:36] sovereign sovereignty to to

[1:40:38] other groups and other areas we

[1:40:39] we would love to to come

[1:40:40] together

[1:40:42] so madam vice chair and

[1:40:48] so I just recently last week

[1:40:50] went through because with a a

[1:40:50] company or

[1:40:53] the behavioral health people

[1:40:56] that working that are working

[1:40:57] with thenavajo nation that do

[1:40:58] have a contract with the Navajo

[1:41:00] Nation now operating in arizona

[1:41:02] so it's trying to bring them

[1:41:04] here to New Mexico so that was

[1:41:06] just beginning discussions just

[1:41:08] had a real good meeting last

[1:41:10] week a lot a lot

[1:41:15] to do that we don't have but

[1:41:17] I do caution to that they they

[1:41:19] do have like veterans facilities

[1:41:20] too and all kinds of

[1:41:22] but we'll talk more about that

[1:41:23] but there there is something

[1:41:24] going on right now

[1:41:29] OK thank you. I I was wondering

[1:41:30] maybe we could entertain if we

[1:41:32] don't already have a

[1:41:35] multidisciplinary team or group

[1:41:36] or committee within our

[1:41:40] county or city and the reason

[1:41:43] why I say that is because I work

[1:41:46] at the hospital and we have the

[1:41:46] same types of

[1:41:50] patients constituents

[1:41:53] individuals some of them driving

[1:41:56] across the state one way or the

[1:41:59] other getting stranded after an

[1:42:00] emergency room treatment

[1:42:04] our own folks having no place to

[1:42:06] go after discharge, having no

[1:42:08] transportation after discharge

[1:42:12] and then our referrals are NCI

[1:42:14] and you know where else wherever

[1:42:18] else we can find help even

[1:42:20] having to call the chaptershojo

[1:42:24] so just the thought and then

[1:42:27] my other question is about

[1:42:28] the water line

[1:42:32] I represent Eastern Agency so

[1:42:36] the water line from standingRock

[1:42:39] to Crown Point and that reach I

[1:42:41] am advocating for. I understand

[1:42:43] there's a10 million dollars

[1:42:45] shortfall? do you know anything

[1:42:47] about that or the specifics?

[1:42:48] Thank you.

[1:42:52] madam chairir Representative

[1:42:54] Johnson, I'm not too sure

[1:42:55] exactly what the10 million

[1:42:56] dollars is. I know there's a

[1:42:58] bunch of different

[1:43:00] projects that came out of that

[1:43:01] main line that went from that

[1:43:02] went along the was that 99

[1:43:06] they're and it might be

[1:43:07] something that they're they're

[1:43:09] gonna try to get state funding

[1:43:10] for and it might be just

[1:43:12] tributary off the main line but

[1:43:14] I'm not too aware I know the

[1:43:16] whole project has about a500

[1:43:17] million dollars shortfall right

[1:43:18] now which Frank talked about

[1:43:20] which needs and it's and and it

[1:43:20] might be included in that

[1:43:23] thank you

[1:43:26] and just want to thank you

[1:43:28] for your presentation and you

[1:43:31] know as well as I do that

[1:43:32] water lines to our homes is very

[1:43:35] important. I have both

[1:43:36] experiences. I live in the city

[1:43:39] of Gallup but I also have a

[1:43:41] homestead about 20 miles

[1:43:42] northeast of here and

[1:43:45] I had an incident hauling water

[1:43:46] for my trees so

[1:43:53] re s ent ed thank you madam

[1:43:54] chairir.

[1:43:56] thank you madam vice chair.

[1:43:59] Representative roybalcaballero

[1:44:02] thank you madam chair and thank

[1:44:05] you for your presentations. I

[1:44:07] thank you topresentative Garcia

[1:44:08] and others for raising their

[1:44:09] questions because they covered

[1:44:11] most of what I wanted. So I'm

[1:44:12] going to zero in on just a few

[1:44:13] things

[1:44:16] in terms of the intake and I'm

[1:44:18] raising these questions because

[1:44:18] I

[1:44:22] in my previous career I'm

[1:44:24] clinical social worker dealing

[1:44:26] with substance and alcohol abuse

[1:44:28] individuals and families

[1:44:31] needs and so it's important to

[1:44:33] me to get these type of

[1:44:35] questions out. so in the intake

[1:44:37] process and the only information

[1:44:39] I have is relevant to what you

[1:44:40] passed out here in terms of the

[1:44:43] emergency warming center when

[1:44:47] intake and it applies to NCI and

[1:44:48] wherever else intake is done

[1:44:52] what is the professional

[1:44:54] preparation of the persons that

[1:44:54] are doing the intake.

[1:44:56] that's question one

[1:45:02] madam chairirpresentative

[1:45:05] roybalcaballero sorry

[1:45:10] when we did the the emergency

[1:45:12] shelter Gallllupunity Health had

[1:45:14] a one on one training and all

[1:45:15] day training and they did

[1:45:17] hire people who had shelter

[1:45:20] experience and worked with

[1:45:23] the unsheltered one of them did

[1:45:25] the burrito project who was the

[1:45:26] manager who holds

[1:45:30] Monthly events for the

[1:45:31] unsheltered and offers them

[1:45:33] showers and things like that so

[1:45:35] a lot of the the individuals who

[1:45:38] were hired had training or

[1:45:40] experience within that and then

[1:45:42] our intake process this was a

[1:45:42] little different

[1:45:46] we didn't have it so much

[1:45:48] clinical at the emergency

[1:45:50] warming shelter but at the the

[1:45:52] detox center we do have a

[1:45:54] counselor who does the expert

[1:45:56] screening with them and then we

[1:45:57] try and get them into treatment

[1:45:59] once they're discharged the

[1:46:00] numbers that were given within

[1:46:03] those 1000 we're only with the

[1:46:05] twelvehour holds that are

[1:46:06] discharged

[1:46:07] Monday through Friday.

[1:46:11] thank you so madam chair the the

[1:46:13] whole point about intake in

[1:46:14] general just the intake in

[1:46:17] general and why the preparation

[1:46:18] of those that are taking intake

[1:46:20] is so critically important is

[1:46:22] based on all the issues that you

[1:46:24] all described madam chairir. and

[1:46:27] that is that we have

[1:46:28] individuals that

[1:46:33] alcohol substance abuse

[1:46:35] mental health, s possible

[1:46:38] medical issues as well and so

[1:46:40] the intake process is not just a

[1:46:42] process of taking an application

[1:46:45] or interviewing it's a what I

[1:46:49] would view an indepth look at

[1:46:51] the person who's sitting in

[1:46:53] front of you in depth and

[1:46:54] looking at that person madam

[1:46:57] chair holistically to try to get

[1:46:58] to the root the whole idea for

[1:46:58] all of us

[1:47:02] is to get to the root causes of

[1:47:03] why we're seeing these kinds of

[1:47:10] symptoms and and reliance on

[1:47:11] or lack of reliance on on self

[1:47:16] so I I would stress that that

[1:47:20] the intake process in general

[1:47:21] where whether it's in the

[1:47:23] warming center or whether it's

[1:47:26] an NCI or wherever it happens it

[1:47:27] really is the place where you

[1:47:29] have the actual professional

[1:47:34] preparation and you you have a

[1:47:36] lot of resources here or in

[1:47:37] the neighboring areas with

[1:47:40] universities I know that

[1:47:43] there's student interns work

[1:47:46] work experience that are already

[1:47:47] in their3rd and4th year those

[1:47:50] are perfect places for this

[1:47:55] placements intake. So I would

[1:47:56] just

[1:47:59] I think we're all trying to get

[1:48:00] at a comprehensive approach to

[1:48:02] try to resolve these problems.

[1:48:05] and aspresentative Garcia

[1:48:06] mentioned we have an obligation

[1:48:09] these are our people we have

[1:48:11] an obligation to make sure we do

[1:48:12] this so we don't want madam

[1:48:14] chairir individuals a revolving

[1:48:15] door we want

[1:48:20] an end to this and so how we get

[1:48:22] to that is by trying to look at

[1:48:24] the whole person, the whole

[1:48:27] family and then try to reach the

[1:48:28] root causes so that

[1:48:33] it was mentioned several times

[1:48:36] that that the these are

[1:48:39] choices that are being made by

[1:48:40] these individuals to go back

[1:48:41] to the

[1:48:45] it

[1:48:49] it's not necessarily a choice

[1:48:52] it's how they see themselves

[1:48:55] relative to society in general

[1:48:57] and there's no place for these

[1:49:00] persons. there's no place there

[1:49:02] there and so there's a reason

[1:49:02] why

[1:49:06] we use different terminology

[1:49:07] we're moving away from

[1:49:08] homelessness we're now trying to

[1:49:11] move away from unhoused in the

[1:49:13] arena of social work and

[1:49:14] casework because

[1:49:19] we we can't take an attitude

[1:49:22] or perspective or

[1:49:26] or a prejudice in any form or

[1:49:27] fashion and then

[1:49:31] by by stating that it's their

[1:49:34] choice. Yes, they may go back

[1:49:35] but there's a reason why they're

[1:49:36] going back

[1:49:38] and I I would strongly

[1:49:42] look at taking a comprehensive

[1:49:45] approach one stop, share the

[1:49:46] resources that are available

[1:49:49] under one roof and then be able

[1:49:51] to address those needs

[1:49:53] uhpresentative vice chairir

[1:49:54] Johnson mentioned the medical

[1:49:56] the hospital there's medical

[1:49:58] institutions here they need

[1:49:58] to be

[1:50:02] involved because we don't we

[1:50:03] don't know what the medical, uh,

[1:50:06] wellbeing of that person is or

[1:50:09] or the family or the children so

[1:50:11] I I just encourage you to kind

[1:50:12] of move away from

[1:50:18] treating the intake process as

[1:50:20] just an filling out forms

[1:50:22] process and looking at it from a

[1:50:25] more indepth comprehensive

[1:50:28] way and that so one final

[1:50:29] question and you may not be able

[1:50:30] to answer that madam chairir

[1:50:32] right now but I'd like to

[1:50:35] know what the percentage all the

[1:50:36] funding that you mentioned that

[1:50:39] has been coming in either

[1:50:40] through the federal or however

[1:50:41] else the all the other funding

[1:50:44] what percentage goes directly to

[1:50:45] direct service and what

[1:50:47] percentage goes to

[1:50:48] administration. I know that

[1:50:52] there are limits by funding

[1:50:53] sources in terms of

[1:50:54] administration but I'd be

[1:50:56] curious to see how much is

[1:50:57] actually going into direct

[1:51:01] service and then the longevity

[1:51:04] of of the service you you

[1:51:05] kind of address it

[1:51:10] in just this warming center but

[1:51:12] I think in general it would

[1:51:14] help to be able to look at

[1:51:16] how long

[1:51:21] why they're not staying the

[1:51:22] questions should be asked why

[1:51:24] did they come to gallup in the

[1:51:25] first place

[1:51:25] and what are they seeking when

[1:51:28] and then

[1:51:33] a lot of questions there's a lot

[1:51:35] of questions we need to ask but

[1:51:37] anyway, madam chair if you

[1:51:39] can answer that right now that's

[1:51:40] fine. I don't want to take too

[1:51:41] much more time but if you can

[1:51:43] provide that to the film I mean

[1:51:44] to the committee that would be

[1:51:45] helpful. Thank you.

[1:51:48] madam chairir, umpresentativeRoy

[1:51:50] Ball umabbriero

[1:51:54] we didn't take any funding from

[1:51:55] the emergency shelter that went

[1:51:58] all directly this was a pilot

[1:52:00] project and we wanted to have it

[1:52:03] low barrier so that included

[1:52:05] not as many questions during the

[1:52:06] intake process because we didn't

[1:52:08] want to screen anybody out at

[1:52:11] the beginning and then for the

[1:52:14] other funding the IHS funding

[1:52:15] it funds my salary and another

[1:52:17] employee and we go I'm the

[1:52:19] program manager and we only have

[1:52:20] two staff in our behavioral

[1:52:21] health to imp

[1:52:23] le ment the services that

[1:52:24] detox the rest is contracted it

[1:52:25] out.

[1:52:28] thank you madam chairir and

[1:52:31] and so there's no other intake

[1:52:34] process that occurs outside of

[1:52:34] the warming center

[1:52:36] don't you have an intake process

[1:52:39] at NTI also madam chairir yes

[1:52:41] that's different with a a

[1:52:43] licensed counselor OK thank you

[1:52:44] madam chair thank you

[1:52:47] thank you thank youpresentative

[1:52:49] um'm very excited to have the

[1:52:51] people I talked to talk to you

[1:52:52] guys because they take care of

[1:52:53] everything from the intake all

[1:52:55] the way to the resources it's

[1:52:57] just really dynamic even the

[1:52:59] court orders it was very very

[1:53:03] ' m very jealous but senator

[1:53:04] Charlie

[1:53:07] thank you madam chair and thank

[1:53:09] you presenters for being here

[1:53:10] this morning and for the work

[1:53:11] you're doing to take care of

[1:53:13] your community. the first

[1:53:15] question I had was of the

[1:53:17] clients who came into the

[1:53:18] worming center were any of those

[1:53:18] children?

[1:53:25] Madam chair on the corner we

[1:53:26] had

[1:53:32] six families and18 adults thank

[1:53:32] you thank you

[1:53:35] and then it was mentioned

[1:53:38] earlier that graduates of the

[1:53:41] detox program weren't able to go

[1:53:42] home because of cost two part

[1:53:44] question is is there a

[1:53:45] willingness to go home to

[1:53:47] participants want to go home and

[1:53:50] is it just is it a a barrier is

[1:53:51] it a cost barrier to get them

[1:53:52] home if

[1:53:57] madam chair senator umarrlie

[1:54:00] a lot of these individuals have

[1:54:03] family dynamics where they've

[1:54:05] drank a lot and the family

[1:54:08] doesn't want him home so it's

[1:54:10] about building those bridges

[1:54:12] we've had instances where

[1:54:14] people want bus pass we do offer

[1:54:15] them bus passes if they want to

[1:54:18] go home and we offer them the

[1:54:21] ability to call their family

[1:54:22] to let them know they're at

[1:54:24] detox. Most don't take them

[1:54:27] up on that offer and if they

[1:54:28] do not live in

[1:54:30] gallup we do offer them a bus

[1:54:31] pass or train ticket if they

[1:54:33] want to return home. OK thank

[1:54:35] you and then the next question

[1:54:37] is about your last slide here

[1:54:41] the NCI intake the breakdown

[1:54:43] of numbers doesn't tell me how

[1:54:45] many participants that is is

[1:54:47] that the total 2971 or is that a

[1:54:48] different total?

[1:54:53] the total on that is1006

[1:54:57] this is for NCI not for the

[1:54:59] warming clinic and this is only

[1:55:02] for the tw2 hour hold. so those

[1:55:04] individuals that came in they

[1:55:07] blew a.20 1 zeroed out we

[1:55:09] have to meet with a counselor

[1:55:11] offer them services if they're

[1:55:13] interested in treatment we do a

[1:55:15] warm handoff to four corners or

[1:55:17] even Albuquerque, Las Cruces

[1:55:19] wherever they want to go and we

[1:55:20] coordinate with medicaid to do

[1:55:23] transport. thank you and then

[1:55:24] I didn't get a comprehensive

[1:55:25] picture

[1:55:28] of the total cost. there's

[1:55:29] not a budget associated with the

[1:55:31] emergency warming center is

[1:55:33] it175,000 plus inkind donations

[1:55:35] repres us

[1:55:39] madam chair senator Charlie yes

[1:55:41] and do you have a breakdown of

[1:55:42] what those inkind donation

[1:55:42] totals are

[1:55:43] I don't

[1:55:47] in thinking about a potential

[1:55:49] fiscal agent that those are the

[1:55:51] questions that I'm thinking

[1:55:53] about right who can sustain a

[1:55:55] program of this budget. I mean

[1:55:56] you've said that the city would

[1:55:57] be willing to be a fiscal agent.

[1:56:01] do you have potential entities

[1:56:02] ready to step in and continue

[1:56:03] the program?

[1:56:09] Gallllupun madam chairir,

[1:56:11] Senator Charlie Gel Community

[1:56:13] Health has shared interest with

[1:56:14] wanting to continue they

[1:56:15] actually wanted to do a cooling

[1:56:16] center this summer just

[1:56:18] it got cool before we got to it

[1:56:22] it's it's already getting nippy

[1:56:25] falls falls here so so we've

[1:56:26] already got Gallup Community

[1:56:28] Health and and several other

[1:56:31] entities wanting to again it

[1:56:34] comes down to having the

[1:56:34] backbone which came from

[1:56:38] that175,000

[1:56:42] something like that to to get it

[1:56:43] going and then they're in income

[1:56:46] can sustain for a short period

[1:56:48] of time but without the infuse

[1:56:49] of that original money

[1:56:52] not even the city of Gallup

[1:56:54] has the the capacity right now.

[1:56:55] Sure thank you madam Chair.

[1:56:58] so this it sounded like it was

[1:57:00] an emergency grant. are there

[1:57:01] funds available? Are you working

[1:57:02] with the

[1:57:07] allocations through Senate Bill3

[1:57:09] or other potential funding

[1:57:16] madam chair senator Charlie

[1:57:19] we do have a housing program

[1:57:21] manager and since then I've kind

[1:57:22] of kicked that off because

[1:57:22] housing's not my

[1:57:27] my specialty but I know that

[1:57:29] we did talk to workforce

[1:57:31] Solutions about putting out a

[1:57:34] grant instead of giving it to

[1:57:36] a municipality and letting other

[1:57:38] individuals apply so they can

[1:57:41] assess their own costs and needs

[1:57:42] associated with the warming

[1:57:44] shelters and I know there was an

[1:57:46] RFP but I'm not sure if anybody

[1:57:47] applied for it locally

[1:57:50] thank you madam chairir. I don't

[1:57:51] know if you could do it less

[1:57:54] expensive than175,000 dollars

[1:57:55] quite honestly for that amount

[1:57:57] of time that's about50,000

[1:58:00] dollars a month which is for the

[1:58:01] the amount of individuals that

[1:58:04] you're interacting with. I

[1:58:04] don't know if that's possible

[1:58:05] but

[1:58:08] thank you that that concludes my

[1:58:10] my questions madam chairir I'll

[1:58:11] just say this one last thing I

[1:58:12] read an interesting article

[1:58:14] recently about harm reduction

[1:58:19] policies and how major

[1:58:21] metropolitan areas are rolling

[1:58:22] back their harm reduction

[1:58:24] policies but also to include

[1:58:27] mandatory treatment for the

[1:58:29] reasons that were mentioned and

[1:58:31] when mandatory treatment is

[1:58:33] required of those individuals

[1:58:34] who come into contact with the

[1:58:35] system recidivism

[1:58:39] decreases and so I think it's an

[1:58:41] interesting intersection for

[1:58:45] us to explore while we're making

[1:58:46] decisions about treatment

[1:58:48] facilities into the future.

[1:58:48] thank you madam chairir.

[1:58:52] and I would like to mention that

[1:58:53] these guys actually do the

[1:58:55] workforce development when they

[1:58:56] do the intake right when the

[1:58:57] people are in the program like

[1:59:00] as soon as they can handle it

[1:59:01] and get them going so it's not

[1:59:02] till after they

[1:59:04] ter ing

[1:59:08] p re s ent ative Abeda, thank

[1:59:08] you Senator Charlie.

[1:59:11] thank you thank you presenters

[1:59:13] and senator Charlie you lead me

[1:59:14] right into my questions

[1:59:16] beautifully thank you in regards

[1:59:18] to the mandatory treatment for

[1:59:19] both NCI or excuse me the

[1:59:22] nonmandatory treatment for NCI

[1:59:24] are you keeping any

[1:59:26] information about tribal court

[1:59:26] versus non tribal court?

[1:59:33] madam chair umre representative

[1:59:36] Abeda we just keep the

[1:59:37] commitment where they're

[1:59:39] committed from so only a law

[1:59:40] enforcement officer and a

[1:59:42] medical provider can commit him

[1:59:44] into NCI and we do have that

[1:59:47] data. Great OK. where are you

[1:59:48] seeing more of the commitments

[1:59:48] coming from

[1:59:53] umgpd I think it's 95% are

[1:59:54] coming from Galluplice

[2:00:01] I can get you that exact

[2:00:02] breakdown

[2:00:04] OK thank you madam chair thank

[2:00:06] you presenters. The reason

[2:00:08] why I ask is I agree with

[2:00:09] Senator Charlie in the article

[2:00:11] written that mandatory treatment

[2:00:12] does have an impact and it does

[2:00:15] help. but I wanted to see if

[2:00:17] that was if we were seeing

[2:00:20] mandatory treatment commitments

[2:00:22] from tribal courts as well

[2:00:25] because for my experience that

[2:00:27] NCI is one of the only local

[2:00:28] places that they can

[2:00:37] do not go to NCI then they're

[2:00:38] sent out of state they're sent

[2:00:39] to facilities that are much

[2:00:40] further

[2:00:45] u ll recovery because the

[2:00:46] curriculum's either not

[2:00:50] culturally responsive to them or

[2:00:52] just the distance alone and

[2:00:53] then coming back into the same

[2:00:54] environment that coping

[2:00:56] mechanisms are just not there.

[2:00:58] So I want I would love to see

[2:01:01] those two issues because my I

[2:01:05] am moving towards more

[2:01:07] collaboration with courts and

[2:01:08] also the law school about

[2:01:11] addressing needs for our legal

[2:01:12] desert in

[2:01:15] this is Albuquerque west all the

[2:01:22] the next question I had was

[2:01:24] in the in the curriculum I know

[2:01:26] you said that they go through a

[2:01:27] program that they can finish. Do

[2:01:28] you know if there's a life

[2:01:30] skills component in that

[2:01:32] curriculum and the life skills

[2:01:34] component would be how to find a

[2:01:36] home or building a resume job

[2:01:39] application or having a support

[2:01:40] for

[2:01:42] relapse prevention is that part

[2:01:43] of the curriculum

[2:01:49] madam chairirpresentative Obea

[2:01:51] we do have people come into

[2:01:52] NCI and do groups from

[2:01:55] umorkforce solutions that they

[2:01:57] do provide the job

[2:01:58] application a lot of these

[2:02:01] people are just coming off of

[2:02:04] having abAc of.20 so we have to

[2:02:08] repeat those and and work slowly

[2:02:10] with this population because a

[2:02:12] lot of them have been unhoused

[2:02:14] and unsheltered for a while

[2:02:15] we've had

[2:02:17] in the independent living we've

[2:02:20] had success with working with

[2:02:22] them to get jobs and then

[2:02:24] providing the bikes to get to

[2:02:27] employment it takes some time

[2:02:29] to get him into a routine

[2:02:30] because we do give them chores

[2:02:32] we kind of have like a house

[2:02:34] manager within that shelter and

[2:02:36] they all take turns it's it's

[2:02:37] been really nice to see and

[2:02:40] we're looking at implementing a

[2:02:42] a contingency management program

[2:02:44] where we increase the rewards

[2:02:45] for the positive behavior

[2:02:48] so we don't have that

[2:02:49] necessarily

[2:02:53] curriculum of life skills but we

[2:02:54] have them work with a peer

[2:02:54] support to guide them through a

[2:02:55] lot of this.

[2:02:57] thank you madam chair thank you

[2:03:01] my last question is about

[2:03:03] family support I've been on

[2:03:07] the side of family where you are

[2:03:09] helpless, hopeless about how you

[2:03:11] can support your loved one. a

[2:03:12] lot of times we've heard it on

[2:03:13] this committee that when you

[2:03:16] come into gallup you see our

[2:03:17] relatives on the streets you see

[2:03:19] them in certain areas you can't

[2:03:20] help but wonder where is their

[2:03:20] family

[2:03:24] but is there a service or is

[2:03:26] there a resource is there a

[2:03:27] hotline? what do we have for

[2:03:29] families and I ask this too

[2:03:31] because so often even in my

[2:03:33] home community when I ask

[2:03:35] students or kids from the

[2:03:36] neighborhood, you know where's

[2:03:37] your mom? how's your mom? how's

[2:03:38] your dad? how's your uncle

[2:03:40] they haven't been home they're

[2:03:42] on the streets and so the

[2:03:44] kids worry just as much for

[2:03:45] their relatives that are out

[2:03:47] there grandma's grandpa's

[2:03:49] worry about their children their

[2:03:50] nephews their nieces their

[2:03:52] grandchildren who are out there.

[2:03:53] do we have a resource set up to

[2:03:56] help families who are going

[2:03:56] through this and if if not what

[2:03:57] are your thoughts on that?

[2:04:02] madam chairirpresentative Abeda,

[2:04:04] that is a huge need in our

[2:04:06] community we do offer them the

[2:04:08] right to call and connect with

[2:04:09] their family member if that's

[2:04:11] what they choose and we are

[2:04:12] willing to do counseling

[2:04:14] sessions with the family we just

[2:04:17] haven't had any one take us up

[2:04:18] on that and probably a couple of

[2:04:19] years

[2:04:21] but it is well needed

[2:04:25] OK thank you that's madam chair

[2:04:26] and Councilor Bata one of the

[2:04:28] problems we do have to in gallup

[2:04:28] we have mothers grandmothers

[2:04:29] coming

[2:04:31] to visiting me as the mayor and

[2:04:32] say my 12 year old

[2:04:33] is on cannabis

[2:04:37] and we can't we don't know what

[2:04:38] to do and that's one of the

[2:04:39] problems we need to start

[2:04:40] looking into is those gateway

[2:04:41] drugs I don't know if they call

[2:04:43] it a gateway drug but when these

[2:04:45] young kids10,111el years old are

[2:04:47] doing our vaping cannabis you

[2:04:48] can't tell it you it's it's not

[2:04:50] visible and we're gonna have to

[2:04:51] start addressing that really

[2:04:53] soon because I think that's

[2:04:54] the gateway that's starting the

[2:04:54] problems

[2:05:01] OK

[2:05:03] we know that and we thank you

[2:05:04] very much

[2:05:07] the place I visited was the yeah

[2:05:09] this condehohoienter in Phoenix,

[2:05:10] Arizona

[2:05:13] and everything you're talking

[2:05:14] about all these

[2:05:16] I mean you needing somebody to

[2:05:17] do this you're talking about the

[2:05:20] curriculum the intake they

[2:05:21] handle all of it closed loop

[2:05:24] system with resources and so

[2:05:25] they have a better idea of what

[2:05:28] we're spending on on it in

[2:05:30] that whole loop so I'm very very

[2:05:33] excited to to introduce them to

[2:05:35] you and get them going here in

[2:05:37] New Mexico just to build the

[2:05:40] foundation that is very it

[2:05:41] just really blew my mind how

[2:05:43] much they really listened to the

[2:05:44] community of the

[2:05:46] people that were coming in and

[2:05:48] the barriers that were there I

[2:05:49] understand we still have a

[2:05:51] barrier with transportation of

[2:05:53] getting them there to the

[2:05:54] treatment center especially when

[2:05:56] you talk about tribal court

[2:05:58] so we're talking about hubs

[2:06:00] within the Navajo nation where

[2:06:02] we're because we see this with

[2:06:04] the MMIP is that they say I'm

[2:06:04] gonna go get treatment they

[2:06:05] leave here

[2:06:06] then they don't make it there

[2:06:09] so like we need you to take

[2:06:11] place for them to go see well

[2:06:12] and want treatment get them to a

[2:06:13] safe place here maybe the

[2:06:15] chapter and then actually have

[2:06:17] that transportation safely down

[2:06:19] there so we do know where where

[2:06:21] that they did get there and

[2:06:22] handling the intake really

[2:06:24] knowing caseworkers are there

[2:06:26] all under one roof. it is just

[2:06:26] very

[2:06:29] they're doing well and hoping

[2:06:31] we're really getting ready to do

[2:06:32] something here in Albuquerque

[2:06:34] very quickly as they have talked

[2:06:34] to Albuquerque already so very

[2:06:38] been excited to have bring them

[2:06:39] to see talk to you ma'am where

[2:06:42] is it located in phoenix? It is

[2:06:44] I don't know. I went to probably

[2:06:47] 6 different facilities within a

[2:06:49] day and a half so there's more

[2:06:51] than one they had the veterans

[2:06:54] outreach and then they had

[2:06:55] housing they had 200 units for

[2:06:57] veterans down there in which

[2:06:59] they I was just really blown

[2:07:00] away about how many units they

[2:07:02] have and even getting them

[2:07:04] through the 9ty day that they

[2:07:04] actually don't tell the person

[2:07:08] well we only can fund you for 60

[2:07:10] days or you're only here for30.

[2:07:11] They actually tried to make sure

[2:07:12] they're all the way for the

[2:07:13] night0 whatever's

[2:07:16] cut by medicaid or whatever

[2:07:19] nation takes care of the rest so

[2:07:21] I'm just really even the

[2:07:23] court ordered they have that

[2:07:25] whole judicial part too where

[2:07:26] they probation and

[2:07:31] reinvented or redid these

[2:07:34] buildings old hospitals senior

[2:07:36] centers and repurposed them and

[2:07:38] it really meant the needs of the

[2:07:40] area and even with our Navajo

[2:07:42] facility that'snavajo

[2:07:43] Nationowned has anavajo nation

[2:07:45] flag outside down there is

[2:07:47] pretty new and even with the

[2:07:48] hydration

[2:07:53] and all right there in that area

[2:07:58] and they provide transportation

[2:08:00] to the doctors and all that for

[2:08:01] the people that are in there so

[2:08:05] keep my fingers crossed that we

[2:08:08] get it going here you know yes

[2:08:10] madam chair'd like to go back to

[2:08:11] uhpresentative Betas

[2:08:15] on on the mandatory seeing very

[2:08:16] few of our judges

[2:08:19] require mandatory treatment

[2:08:20] unless they're dealing

[2:08:22] unless they're dealers

[2:08:26] if they're addicted and they're

[2:08:27] dealing drugs and they're being

[2:08:29] sentenced to prison or something

[2:08:31] like that then they're getting

[2:08:33] some rehab within that but just

[2:08:35] our common users in an

[2:08:37] example we we had a a person

[2:08:38] down on Cole Street

[2:08:41] heavily induced with drugs throw

[2:08:43] a rock through a local business

[2:08:45] window was caught, goes through

[2:08:47] the court and and a week later

[2:08:48] I'm I'm getting a call from here

[2:08:50] because he's in the back parking

[2:08:51] lot

[2:08:52] out of his mind

[2:08:57] nonresponsive they're

[2:08:58] they're they're already back on

[2:08:59] the street so so I don't see our

[2:09:02] courts here for people who are

[2:09:06] heavily are are former DA was

[2:09:07] they're not competent to stand

[2:09:08] trial

[2:09:12] so they're not even gonna press

[2:09:12] charges and get to the judge

[2:09:16] so so that is what we're seeing

[2:09:18] the noncompetency and if

[2:09:19] you're not competent you don't

[2:09:20] go to court you don't go to

[2:09:20] court you don't get committed

[2:09:25] we can refer and and try to

[2:09:27] get them to these these programs

[2:09:29] but then again if we're

[2:09:30] referring and we actually get

[2:09:31] them in the door have enough

[2:09:32] trust and get them in the door

[2:09:33] they're not staying

[2:09:36] they they might get through that

[2:09:37] initial detox

[2:09:40] and then I'm leaving there

[2:09:42] there's and there's nothing to

[2:09:43] stop them legally and and that's

[2:09:44] what we're running into. if

[2:09:44] I'm not mistaken arizona

[2:09:46] has a mandatory commitment

[2:09:50] I know the governor tried doing

[2:09:51] that in a special session a

[2:09:53] couple years ago I believe. She

[2:09:55] tried doing that here in New

[2:09:57] Mexico and Gallllup would be

[2:09:59] very favorable of that because

[2:10:01] our law enforcement know the

[2:10:02] repeat offenders

[2:10:04] they're at the point now they're

[2:10:06] throwing their hands up of why

[2:10:07] am I even picking him up

[2:10:10] they're frustrated you know we

[2:10:12] we we see it they're going to

[2:10:14] be right back on the street. Our

[2:10:16] businesses are our citizens are

[2:10:18] getting frustrated and that goes

[2:10:19] back to Representative Garcia's

[2:10:22] now the stereotype of we're

[2:10:24] throwing our hands up and we now

[2:10:25] we're reacting against the

[2:10:26] person

[2:10:28] versus against the disability.

[2:10:31] so if we can do some mandatory

[2:10:32] type thing where we can get them

[2:10:33] in the door

[2:10:36] and we can start getting them

[2:10:39] clean and and responsive and

[2:10:40] competent to accept

[2:10:42] the workforce the the the

[2:10:43] counseling the

[2:10:47] repairs with their family the

[2:10:50] housing all that whole circle

[2:10:52] that's needed not one component

[2:10:54] is going to cure anybody it's

[2:10:56] got to be a full component and

[2:10:58] and I'm speaking from not

[2:11:00] experience but but from my son I

[2:11:02] I I will say my my son went

[2:11:04] through a heavy addiction and

[2:11:06] and it took prison for him to

[2:11:07] get clean and that was a

[2:11:09] mandatory commitment because it

[2:11:11] was prison. It it wasn't I

[2:11:12] want to be there

[2:11:14] and and I'm happy to say two

[2:11:14] years

[2:11:19] that he's very involved with the

[2:11:20] community now and clean.

[2:11:22] and and a product productive

[2:11:23] citizen that's what we're

[2:11:24] looking for

[2:11:27] but but it has to be a mandatory

[2:11:28] and and I would rather see it

[2:11:30] mandatory to a treatment than

[2:11:30] mandatory to a prison.

[2:11:32] to be honest

[2:11:34] because because I will be honest

[2:11:35] with you there too.

[2:11:38] Dad it was easier for me to get

[2:11:39] drugs in prison than it was on

[2:11:40] the streets

[2:11:41] I will be blunt with that

[2:11:44] I think that's the other thing

[2:11:45] too with arizona is they have

[2:11:53] there were some questions about

[2:11:55] the economic development of the

[2:11:57] area of the industrial park

[2:11:59] because before I got here it is

[2:12:02] a whole conundrum with data

[2:12:03] centers

[2:12:06] but you get it very briefly

[2:12:10] madam chair we'd be happy to

[2:12:12] we we did have a brief

[2:12:15] interest from a data center

[2:12:17] coming in. there there was

[2:12:20] some discussions at this

[2:12:21] point they're not on the table.

[2:12:24] We we do have a manufacturing

[2:12:25] facility wanting to come in that

[2:12:26] is going to manufacture solar

[2:12:27] panels

[2:12:30] unfortunately he he talked in

[2:12:31] his in his

[2:12:35] portfolio he called it a data

[2:12:37] center, but I would like to call

[2:12:38] it an operating center it it

[2:12:40] it's it's it's the technological

[2:12:43] portion to control his machines

[2:12:45] we're not talking oracle Project

[2:12:47] Jupiter we're not talking big

[2:12:48] data center where we're housing

[2:12:50] and farming out stuff Ai we're

[2:12:51] we're talking

[2:12:54] to compete with the Chinese

[2:12:56] we're we're going to have to

[2:12:58] have some machines doing some of

[2:13:00] this intensive work. Well this

[2:13:02] is an operation center to run

[2:13:04] that so it's a data center to

[2:13:07] run his machines so we we have a

[2:13:09] big interest in a production

[2:13:12] facility of solar panels they

[2:13:14] want to go into making the glass

[2:13:16] making all they're heavily

[2:13:19] involved in a right now on

[2:13:20] providing solar and

[2:13:21] hydroelectric

[2:13:24] to a company there to a

[2:13:25] country not a company a country

[2:13:27] there and they want to produce

[2:13:29] them here they are going to need

[2:13:30] a lot of land to put solar

[2:13:31] panels up because we cannot

[2:13:32] supply them the electricity

[2:13:35] we just don't have enough we

[2:13:36] can't even buy enough into

[2:13:38] gallup to provide so they're

[2:13:39] gonna have to use a lot of the

[2:13:40] land for solar. there is a

[2:13:43] stereotype on water we have

[2:13:44] no agreements right now with

[2:13:45] them for water. there isn't

[2:13:47] interest to buy our treated

[2:13:48] affluent water

[2:13:51] which we have an abundance of

[2:13:52] because right now we put it in

[2:13:54] the Perco and it goes down

[2:13:55] river. it it's going into

[2:13:58] arizona so we would rather use

[2:14:01] that to a true purpose of of

[2:14:04] treating it and the logistics is

[2:14:06] there. they're going into an old

[2:14:08] car strip mine that used

[2:14:10] affluent water for dust control

[2:14:12] so that the the mechanisms

[2:14:14] they'll have to replace the

[2:14:15] pumps because they're old. The

[2:14:16] pumps the lines are there to get

[2:14:17] them the affluent water from our

[2:14:18] plant we

[2:14:20] have well over a million gallons

[2:14:20] a day that we can supply them

[2:14:21] sell them

[2:14:26] and and it was pledged to other

[2:14:27] companies in the past

[2:14:30] we felt we don't want to pledge

[2:14:31] it that way we would prefer him

[2:14:32] to go through the state leadA

[2:14:33] process

[2:14:35] through the local leader process

[2:14:36] to where if we're giving them a

[2:14:38] discount on that water it's

[2:14:39] through a process not a

[2:14:41] handshake deal of this is what

[2:14:42] you promised us but more of an

[2:14:42] economic deal

[2:14:46] this is to bring you in so we're

[2:14:47] if we're talking any type of

[2:14:48] freshwater

[2:14:51] it is for the restrooms for

[2:14:52] housing for kitchenettes

[2:14:55] just like we would supply to

[2:14:57] Walmart or any other business

[2:15:00] coming in water to operate for

[2:15:01] the public, not for the

[2:15:03] manufacturing. The only water we

[2:15:05] will pledge and haven't yet is a

[2:15:06] fluent water

[2:15:07] for their manufacturing

[2:15:10] thank you thank you for that

[2:15:11] clarification because they think

[2:15:12] there's a lot of companies in

[2:15:14] that misconception too when they

[2:15:16] say data center because that

[2:15:19] reliance on someone else

[2:15:21] housing your storage and all

[2:15:22] that seems to be

[2:15:25] it seems to be lower cost

[2:15:26] especially if even with energy I

[2:15:28] know some people on the

[2:15:30] hazardous materials so we talked

[2:15:31] about thes andRs the small

[2:15:33] nuclear reactors and uranium and

[2:15:34] energy

[2:15:36] because as far as I know I

[2:15:38] haven't had anybody kind of do

[2:15:41] any restrictions on water yet or

[2:15:43] do any restrictions on energy

[2:15:45] and how much we but we're

[2:15:47] consuming we're consuming a

[2:15:50] great amounts and it is it's

[2:15:52] there it's reality and some

[2:15:53] people are really fighting

[2:15:54] against thinking we're just

[2:15:55] gonna cut everything off by its

[2:15:57] like there has to be some

[2:15:59] compromise there because in

[2:16:00] order to have economic

[2:16:03] development there are some

[2:16:04] things that are necessary for

[2:16:06] some of these companies

[2:16:06] especially when you talk about

[2:16:09] trust and reliability and not

[2:16:10] even waiting for somebody else

[2:16:12] to do that for you relying on

[2:16:14] some other entity to come in if

[2:16:16] you can provide it all there. it

[2:16:18] is more I think advantageous for

[2:16:19] a company to come in but thank

[2:16:21] you for that clarification madam

[2:16:22] Jerem let you know we've been

[2:16:24] upfront and honest with this

[2:16:25] company. This is the only power

[2:16:26] we can provide you.

[2:16:28] this is all we can provide there

[2:16:30] all the rest must come from

[2:16:31] behind the meter and and that's

[2:16:32] why they're looking at

[2:16:34] purchasing more land for their

[2:16:36] solar to produce and such and

[2:16:37] and we've been very upfront with

[2:16:38] them on water

[2:16:40] you know they they were talking4

[2:16:42] or ive phases and we can

[2:16:43] probably get them enough

[2:16:44] affluent water for two phases so

[2:16:45] that's all they're looking at at

[2:16:47] this point until they can find

[2:16:49] other sources of water but we

[2:16:51] are not pledging our Navajo

[2:16:52] Gallup water supply project when

[2:16:54] it comes in our our public

[2:16:55] entity

[2:16:56] come first

[2:17:01] right now and then we've also

[2:17:03] told them we have to withholdX

[2:17:04] amount of affluent water because

[2:17:06] we do use it to water our golf

[2:17:09] course and you know we've taken

[2:17:10] almost all of our parks

[2:17:12] off of the watering system now.

[2:17:14] thank you state government

[2:17:16] you've given us the the

[2:17:19] resources to turf almost all of

[2:17:20] our parks were down to 2 parks

[2:17:21] now that we're looking at the

[2:17:22] future of getting rid of the

[2:17:24] grass and going to turf and

[2:17:26] we'll be100% artificial turf

[2:17:29] with no watering in our parks so

[2:17:31] we're we're working on that so

[2:17:32] we've been upfront and honest

[2:17:34] with this company and the public

[2:17:36] that this is all we can supply

[2:17:39] you and nothing you go above and

[2:17:40] beyond while that's on you you

[2:17:40] you you cannot

[2:17:41] expand beyond what we can give

[2:17:42] you

[2:17:45] thank you it ain't hope with our

[2:17:46] next administration of Navajo

[2:17:47] Nation we continue to collab

[2:17:51] border towns but thank you thank

[2:17:52] you mayor

[2:17:57] thank you very muchppreciate it.

[2:17:58] thanks for coming to Gallup.

[2:18:00] and thank you for the work you

[2:18:02] do. I do have Manylito chapter

[2:18:04] president andaci chapter

[2:18:07] president in our in our midst

[2:18:09] but because we have this

[2:18:10] presentation and then we're

[2:18:11] gonna have public comment

[2:18:13] we're going to have to actually

[2:18:16] and manualito come in after our

[2:18:18] presentation number3, the future

[2:18:19] of community economic

[2:18:20] sovereignty we'll talk to you

[2:18:21] soon need to make an appointment

[2:18:22] with you guys

[2:18:23] yeah yes

[2:18:30] So Liz Gambola henry Jake Forman

[2:18:31] and Aquila Martinez would you

[2:18:32] join us up here

[2:18:36] and if there we eat person as

[2:18:37] committee member oh yeah there's

[2:18:39] a pub yeah where we have a

[2:18:41] public comment sign in sheet at

[2:18:43] the the front there so just be

[2:18:45] aware if you signed up I'm gonna

[2:18:46] call you out to make public

[2:18:46] comment

[2:18:50] but before we go into public

[2:18:51] comment we'll have a short

[2:18:52] presentation with our two

[2:18:54] chapter presidents that are here

[2:18:56] committee members we're gonna

[2:18:58] take a very short five minute

[2:19:01] break members go get pickup

[2:19:02] lunch there and we're gonna

[2:19:04] start to have a working lunch

[2:19:05] sort of thing

[2:19:06] yeah the food's the food's there

[2:19:11] and thank you to Representative

[2:19:13] Lundstrom for lunch re of

[2:19:15] Johnton and Twin Lakes chapter

[2:19:17] for the continental breakfast

[2:19:19] fruits and donutts and thank you

[2:19:21] to the chamber for donuts short

[2:19:22] little break5 minutes.

[2:27:05] OK, those that are in line to

[2:27:08] get your lunch please quiet

[2:27:08] down

[2:27:14] take your conversations down

[2:27:16] the tone with your voice so our

[2:27:19] presenters can get going and you

[2:27:20] have not been before us before

[2:27:23] ok so the green light to go we

[2:27:24] try to only have one microphone

[2:27:26] on at a time. make sure you

[2:27:28] bring it close to you because we

[2:27:29] are webcasting so our members

[2:27:32] can those that are joining us

[2:27:34] will be able to hear you thank

[2:27:35] you thank you so much

[2:27:40] all right awesome well thank you

[2:27:41] so much thank you so much for

[2:27:43] addressing us today committee

[2:27:45] madam chair senator thank you so

[2:27:47] much yes so we'll go ahead and

[2:27:49] speak up we are New Mexico

[2:27:50] community capital my name is

[2:27:51] Henry Jake Forman I'm

[2:27:54] absenteehawnee from Oklahoma as

[2:27:56] well as Filipino and ScotsIrish

[2:27:57] born and raised here in New

[2:27:59] Mexico and Albuquerque, New

[2:28:01] Mexico so grateful we got to

[2:28:03] go to school with some of our

[2:28:04] representatives and chairpeople

[2:28:06] here as well. I'm gonna go ahead

[2:28:06] and introduce our executive

[2:28:07] director Liz

[2:28:09] Gamboa who will start our

[2:28:10] presentation.

[2:28:15] good afternoon I'm so happy you

[2:28:18] all have your lunch wonderful

[2:28:22] so yes my name isliz Gamboa. I

[2:28:26] am Mexican and apache descent

[2:28:29] I have I am the executive

[2:28:32] director at NMCc I have been

[2:28:34] there for 8 years come October

[2:28:34] 1st.

[2:28:40] time has flown and I came

[2:28:43] here from the bay areaa to join

[2:28:46] the organization and I came here

[2:28:48] for this job it really was an

[2:28:50] answer to what we've always

[2:28:52] wanted to do to bring my finance

[2:28:56] background into economic

[2:28:58] development and community

[2:28:58] development so

[2:29:02] yeah I'd love to introduce you

[2:29:06] to our organization NMCC is

[2:29:08] what I will call it it's a long

[2:29:10] name and we've thought about

[2:29:12] changing the name but since we

[2:29:14] serve community we're keeping it

[2:29:17] for now we are all of our

[2:29:20] strategic direction is around

[2:29:23] communities so our official

[2:29:26] mission is to bridge access to

[2:29:28] knowledge space technology

[2:29:29] people and capital to

[2:29:32] create stronger communities

[2:29:35] resilient local economies and

[2:29:38] pathways to prosperity we

[2:29:40] activate life changing

[2:29:43] opportunities with indigenous

[2:29:45] people and other economically

[2:29:48] distressed communities to build

[2:29:51] community economic sovereignty

[2:29:55] we've been around since 204, our

[2:29:57] first investor was a local

[2:29:59] pueblo we started as a non

[2:30:03] p ro fi t but we also had a Vc

[2:30:07] arm which is a fund we actually

[2:30:09] ran two funds that were around

[2:30:14] up until a year and a half ago

[2:30:16] when we closed the fund so both

[2:30:20] were successful and the idea

[2:30:21] was that

[2:30:26] it we wanted to find investment

[2:30:29] ready businesses led by

[2:30:31] indigenous people we couldn't

[2:30:33] find them so we had to just

[2:30:36] recalibrate a little bit and

[2:30:38] really go to that group and

[2:30:40] teach them how to do that and

[2:30:41] get investment ready.

[2:30:47] that is kind of where I come

[2:30:48] into the picture. I was one of

[2:30:50] those native entrepreneurs in

[2:30:52] residence at the time I was a

[2:30:52] high school teacher at the

[2:30:54] Native American Community

[2:30:56] academy and I was on my own path

[2:30:58] to recovery right my dad died of

[2:31:00] cirrhosis of the liver so

[2:31:01] that's just something you know

[2:31:02] this conversation that we had

[2:31:04] previously really hit home you

[2:31:05] know for me and what gave me

[2:31:07] hope is entrepreneurship. you

[2:31:08] know what gave me hope is being

[2:31:11] in school and getting my degree

[2:31:12] and that's when I got connected

[2:31:14] to New Mexicounity capital we

[2:31:14] see that there's

[2:31:17] a lot of societal challenges but

[2:31:19] we feel like we're a community

[2:31:21] solution, right we know that

[2:31:22] over 6% of New Mexico businesses

[2:31:24] are native owned and we also

[2:31:26] know that indigenous founders

[2:31:28] receive less than0.5% of venture

[2:31:29] capital and philanthropic

[2:31:31] funding. so that's what our

[2:31:32] that's why we're here that's why

[2:31:34] we wanted to talk with you all

[2:31:35] to just really start building

[2:31:37] relations and kinship

[2:31:39] connected so like Liz mentioned

[2:31:41] we really activate life changing

[2:31:42] opportunities and we wanted to

[2:31:44] show you all some cases and

[2:31:44] examples of how we've done that

[2:31:47] in the past and I'm following

[2:31:49] you all have a presentation of

[2:31:51] our slide deck. So I'm going to

[2:31:52] the deck that is entitled core

[2:31:55] annualgras one of the

[2:31:57] culturally grounded business

[2:31:59] education workshops that we do

[2:32:00] is our business and marketing

[2:32:03] essentials so imagine right you

[2:32:04] all were talking about intake

[2:32:05] and people needing support

[2:32:07] what we do right away is we

[2:32:08] offer a holistic support to

[2:32:10] native entrepreneurs we take

[2:32:13] in again what their needs are

[2:32:14] what their challenges and right

[2:32:14] away we give

[2:32:16] them access to one on one

[2:32:18] coaching and support. We give

[2:32:20] them a digital wallet for their

[2:32:22] online subscriptions to get aite

[2:32:24] we also offer laptops we know

[2:32:26] that resources and access to

[2:32:28] technologies is a real barrier

[2:32:29] so we've been over we've been

[2:32:30] able to literally give out

[2:32:32] thousands of laptops across

[2:32:34] Mexico and then provide access

[2:32:37] to actual cash resources so back

[2:32:39] starting in 2017 when we started

[2:32:40] our business marketing

[2:32:43] essentials we offer everyone1200

[2:32:44] dollars to be able to help

[2:32:45] them with their marketing

[2:32:46] during our business and

[2:32:49] marketing essentials class

[2:32:50] and before in our native

[2:32:51] entrepreneur and residence

[2:32:52] program we offered all of our

[2:32:55] entrepreneurs15,000 dollars plus

[2:32:57] six months of mentorship. That

[2:32:58] was life changing for me. that's

[2:33:00] what we talked about when we we

[2:33:01] offer life changing

[2:33:02] opportunities because that's how

[2:33:03] I was able to become an

[2:33:05] entrepreneur shift from my

[2:33:08] full time job as a as a teacher

[2:33:09] to also being an entrepreneur

[2:33:11] and own a storefront in downtown

[2:33:13] Albuquerque. So these are the

[2:33:14] types of things that we do

[2:33:14] like wement

[2:33:17] we access to community capital

[2:33:20] so that's micro grants tech tool

[2:33:22] kits nonpredatory loans,

[2:33:24] networks of peers and allies and

[2:33:25] I think that's how we've also

[2:33:26] been able to strengthen our

[2:33:28] indigenous workforce and

[2:33:31] business owners and then we also

[2:33:33] offer fiscal sponsorship so you

[2:33:34] all mentioned right there's

[2:33:36] always a lack of fiscal sponsors

[2:33:37] within our community who's able

[2:33:39] to take in these funds these

[2:33:41] capital stacks and be able to

[2:33:42] manage programs and that's

[2:33:44] really what we focused on we

[2:33:44] have 22 different

[2:33:47] emerging projects around the

[2:33:48] state that we act as a fiscal

[2:33:50] sponsor and what has really

[2:33:51] helped us is that we have our

[2:33:52] back end we have a solid

[2:33:54] foundation as a venture capital

[2:33:56] fund operating for over 20 years

[2:33:58] we have two accountants and we

[2:34:00] really focus on technology to

[2:34:00] help with program management.

[2:34:04] So on our next slide, Liz is

[2:34:06] going to talk about you know why

[2:34:07] we're here and why should we

[2:34:08] invest in more native

[2:34:09] entrepreneurs in New Mexico

[2:34:10] community capital.

[2:34:25] So New Mexico is a hot spot as

[2:34:27] I'm sure you are all feeling

[2:34:29] with perhaps different

[2:34:32] leadership coming in

[2:34:36] different way and right it is

[2:34:39] the second state number 2 for

[2:34:43] native owned businesses in 2025

[2:34:46] so our work over the last decade

[2:34:49] has helped New Mexico stand out

[2:34:50] as one of the strongest

[2:34:51] environment

[2:34:54] s in the country for native

[2:34:56] entrepreneurs and we're the only

[2:34:59] native led nonprofit that

[2:35:01] provides services to business

[2:35:03] owners statewide and all tribal

[2:35:04] affiliation.

[2:35:06] affiliations sorry

[2:35:07] so

[2:35:11] we've done a lot in the past10

[2:35:16] years so officially in 2014 we

[2:35:18] received a grant from the

[2:35:20] administration for Native

[2:35:24] Americans which kicked off ourE

[2:35:25] program native entrepreneur and

[2:35:28] residents program a very first

[2:35:30] company to go through the

[2:35:32] program was bo and arrow brewery

[2:35:37] sohya Shepherd worked at NMCc

[2:35:38] she was a financial analyst

[2:35:41] so she took it to the next step.

[2:35:44] she was ready to take the leap

[2:35:47] and she helped formulate and

[2:35:49] build the curriculum for the

[2:35:50] NMCc program so

[2:35:54] she was the first of46

[2:35:56] entrepreneurs to go through the

[2:35:58] six month program but what we

[2:36:02] found was we needed more basics

[2:36:05] and essentials so Jake created

[2:36:06] another program calledinancial

[2:36:09] Business basicsics we then moved

[2:36:13] to digital marketing and

[2:36:16] media basics and now where we've

[2:36:18] landed is business and marketing

[2:36:20] essentials so all of those

[2:36:20] program

[2:36:25] s we've put 864 people through

[2:36:28] various programs every single

[2:36:32] one has received a stipend so

[2:36:34] anywhere from1200 dollars

[2:36:37] to15,000 for the six month

[2:36:39] program that is included in

[2:36:41] every grant that we provide to

[2:36:42] funders

[2:36:46] it is an essential piece of the

[2:36:49] work that we do people not only

[2:36:50] need it for the business they

[2:36:52] need it for child care they need

[2:36:55] it for food we think what are

[2:36:56] the hurdles that are keeping

[2:36:58] entrepreneurs from doing their

[2:37:03] work so that amounts to10,000

[2:37:06] over10,000 hours in training so

[2:37:08] I'm oh you're looking at the new

[2:37:12] pack 228,000 in tech toolkits

[2:37:15] the value of that mentorship is

[2:37:18] almost a million dollars that

[2:37:21] we've provided and we have

[2:37:26] received14.5 million in grants

[2:37:28] we have only received one state

[2:37:32] grant from IAD we did a program

[2:37:33] just this earlier this year

[2:37:37] we did two business and

[2:37:38] marketing essentials classes

[2:37:43] awesome thank you Liz for

[2:37:44] sharing some of that impact and

[2:37:45] that's all driven by the

[2:37:47] entrepreneurs themselves,

[2:37:48] including the mentorship we

[2:37:50] really value finding native

[2:37:53] mentors as well so in some cases

[2:37:54] that's here both in New Mexico

[2:37:55] as well as nationally and

[2:37:56] internationally

[2:37:59] so on our next slide we're

[2:38:00] talking about access to

[2:38:02] knowledge so just want to give

[2:38:03] you a quote you know from a

[2:38:05] participant the training I

[2:38:06] received gave me the confidence

[2:38:07] and tools to grow my business

[2:38:10] and support my community and I

[2:38:11] would say that's almost one of

[2:38:13] the most valuable parts of our

[2:38:14] programming is to connect and

[2:38:16] network with the peers of native

[2:38:18] entrepreneurs right we have a

[2:38:20] space in downtown Albuquerque.

[2:38:22] We recently spent1.4 million

[2:38:24] dollars of renovating the space

[2:38:26] to have the best in class

[2:38:26] audiovisual to be able to do

[2:38:30] hybrid events to host community

[2:38:32] events and we have one of our

[2:38:33] participants here today

[2:38:35] Aquilamartinez and this is

[2:38:37] really around access to

[2:38:40] technology we doubled down on

[2:38:41] technology especially before the

[2:38:43] pandemic so we already knew that

[2:38:45] the rural nature of of our

[2:38:46] community meant that we couldn't

[2:38:47] be everywhere so we had to

[2:38:49] really focus on doing virtual

[2:38:51] programming making sure to give

[2:38:53] people computers teaching them

[2:38:55] how to do a a virtual

[2:38:56] programming right to to log in.

[2:38:57] So during the

[2:38:59] pandemic we actually were able

[2:39:00] to scale we never stopped

[2:39:02] working because our work was

[2:39:03] already based in that virtual

[2:39:05] programming. Akila was one of

[2:39:07] our participants and I feel like

[2:39:08] Liz you know if you could

[2:39:09] introduce her so that she could

[2:39:10] share her new slides that she

[2:39:11] also shared with you all

[2:39:16] Absolutely so Akila is one of

[2:39:19] those success stories that we'd

[2:39:23] like to point out I very much

[2:39:26] believe in system models and I

[2:39:29] think the other interpretation

[2:39:31] of a system which is a very

[2:39:33] western term is relationship

[2:39:36] based models so here akeyla

[2:39:39] comes in she attends a class we

[2:39:42] see that she is very skilled so

[2:39:42] she comes in

[2:39:46] she becomes a guest speaker we

[2:39:49] decide to hire Akila to

[2:39:52] create some little vignettes of

[2:39:55] instruction around social

[2:39:56] media which is really needed

[2:40:01] so that goes on ikok and I think

[2:40:03] that maybe our highest rated

[2:40:06] ikok so if you go to our site

[2:40:09] and go back you'll see and it is

[2:40:11] all around language preservation

[2:40:15] so she has made it identifiable

[2:40:17] by younger people by older

[2:40:20] people just by the subject she

[2:40:24] uses she kicked off and led

[2:40:26] and she's going to talk a little

[2:40:26] about this but I think it's

[2:40:27] important

[2:40:30] to really just elevate what

[2:40:33] she's done in community and the

[2:40:36] most humble way we put on a

[2:40:39] turtle island women in tech

[2:40:42] conference so we brought women

[2:40:44] from New Zealand from Canada

[2:40:48] and my goodness and about six

[2:40:52] weeks 8 weeks akila raised

[2:40:53] enough money to put this

[2:40:54] conference on and brought these

[2:40:57] people here it was amazing. so

[2:40:59] this is something that just took

[2:41:01] place a year and a half ago it

[2:41:03] was the first of its kind and

[2:41:05] we're really pro proud that

[2:41:08] she's a part of our extended

[2:41:11] family at NMCc so I'm gonna pass

[2:41:13] it toilla and she can just talk

[2:41:14] about her work.

[2:41:17] thank you Liz that means so

[2:41:19] much. So just for some context

[2:41:21] we'll start on this slide here

[2:41:23] don't know if you guys could

[2:41:25] see that so a quick agenda of

[2:41:28] what I'll be talking about today

[2:41:30] is a glittering ro girl intro to

[2:41:33] my business and then how NMCc

[2:41:35] helped the latest momentum and

[2:41:36] why support matters in this work

[2:41:40] so starting with the first slide

[2:41:43] yay my name is Aquilo Martinez

[2:41:45] Bajaleque winni ini dnasha I

[2:41:46] come from the redsprings

[2:41:48] community of the Navajo Nation

[2:41:50] which is just about1f minutes

[2:41:52] south of Gallup, New Mexico so I

[2:41:55] went to school here elementary

[2:41:56] school, middle school and high

[2:41:59] school. and so yeah, I really

[2:42:02] much know what it is to be like

[2:42:03] growing up on a border by border

[2:42:04] town.

[2:42:06] I

[2:42:09] got my lifelong goal at the age

[2:42:10] of three to create

[2:42:12] community-based media after

[2:42:14] constantly witnessing my

[2:42:15] grandparents have to watch TV

[2:42:16] programming that was only

[2:42:18] offered in English so that's why

[2:42:20] I felt like it was important to

[2:42:22] create media that revitalizes

[2:42:22] language and culture

[2:42:26] into my adolescence after I

[2:42:28] graduated college I really saw

[2:42:30] that there was a lack of

[2:42:32] career opportunity around the

[2:42:34] area for language and culture

[2:42:36] preservation so which that led

[2:42:36] me down the path of

[2:42:37] entrepreneurship.

[2:42:40] Today glittering wallir is an

[2:42:43] indigenous women owned

[2:42:45] multimedia house and I focus on

[2:42:47] creating indigenousbased

[2:42:50] circular economic ecosystems

[2:42:51] community based media that

[2:42:53] focuses on indigenous language

[2:42:55] and culture of futurism. The

[2:42:58] medium that I predominantly

[2:43:00] focus on which is the next slide

[2:43:05] this one right here is

[2:43:07] augmented reality and so I

[2:43:09] develop augmented reality for

[2:43:12] mobile phones and for also

[2:43:13] augmented reality glasses

[2:43:17] multiple types of AR are

[2:43:19] augmented reality which is the

[2:43:22] slide here is the famous type of

[2:43:24] Aar is for social media filters

[2:43:25] and then also Pokemon Go.

[2:43:31] and some really cool exciting

[2:43:33] client feedback which is this

[2:43:36] slide here. is that

[2:43:37] glittering world girl was able

[2:43:40] to deliver AR experiences at a

[2:43:42] faster capacity and that are

[2:43:44] much better designed than

[2:43:45] companies on the east coast. So

[2:43:47] that really means a lot to me

[2:43:49] because it's taken a lot of

[2:43:51] momentum to teach myself how to

[2:43:53] build AR experiences which is an

[2:43:55] emerging technology and the

[2:43:57] focus of glittering Worldirl is

[2:43:58] to really help New

[2:44:01] Mexico and tribal nations become

[2:44:03] technologically inclined and up

[2:44:04] to date with emerging

[2:44:05] technologies that are changing

[2:44:06] the world.

[2:44:09] Some awards there that you see

[2:44:11] is that I've received

[2:44:15] multiple awards from MIT

[2:44:17] Stanford and recently a VC

[2:44:18] fund

[2:44:22] establishment in San Francisco

[2:44:24] and I've also gotten the New

[2:44:26] Mexico Women and Tech emerging

[2:44:26] award of 2024.

[2:44:29] and then you see there's some

[2:44:31] media coverage that my work has

[2:44:35] gotten and then also how New

[2:44:38] Mexicounity capital has really

[2:44:40] flourished and given me capacity

[2:44:44] to build on my business is in

[2:44:47] 2021 I joined their business

[2:44:49] marketingssentials class and

[2:44:51] they they really provided an

[2:44:53] environment and a space of

[2:44:55] support of entrepreneurship

[2:44:56] teaching me about marketing

[2:44:56] financial

[2:45:00] literacy, business and finance

[2:45:04] structures and that really

[2:45:07] led to me winning AIBE pitch

[2:45:10] competition in 2022 for first

[2:45:11] place for glittering Worldirl.

[2:45:17] since then I have like Liz

[2:45:20] mentioned there was a lot of

[2:45:23] trust there that was built I was

[2:45:26] hired to host some of their

[2:45:29] video marketing workshops and

[2:45:31] then also contracted to produce

[2:45:32] some videos for their

[2:45:34] programming and that really

[2:45:35] meant a lot to me because it

[2:45:38] felt like they believed in my

[2:45:38] my offerings that a business had

[2:45:40] my business had

[2:45:44] I've also and a s recipient of

[2:45:46] their kinship lending loan

[2:45:48] programme, which not only helped

[2:45:49] my business but it also helped

[2:45:52] me establish and create a

[2:45:53] positive credit for myself.

[2:45:58] in 2025 my business received

[2:46:01] a h00,000 dollars grant and I

[2:46:03] was able to use New Mexicounity

[2:46:06] capital as a fiscal sponsor and

[2:46:07] through that process they were a

[2:46:08] true partner in that process

[2:46:13] by offering me administrative

[2:46:16] and financial administrative

[2:46:19] support which let me learn about

[2:46:21] the ins and outs of budget to

[2:46:22] actuals profit and loss

[2:46:24] statements associated with the

[2:46:26] grant and most importantly to

[2:46:27] give me a sense of what it

[2:46:29] really takes to offer

[2:46:30] technologybased programming for

[2:46:30] the community.

[2:46:33] So on there you'll see pictures

[2:46:36] of indigenous augmented reality

[2:46:38] workshops I was able to host

[2:46:40] those at New Mexico Community

[2:46:41] Capital and through their fiscal

[2:46:44] sponsorship I was able to do

[2:46:46] workshops on the Navajo Nation

[2:46:46] and at UCLA.

[2:46:52] so and then the most latest

[2:46:56] momentum is that we hosted the

[2:46:57] turtle Islandomen in Tech event

[2:47:01] just this past august and that

[2:47:03] was an amazing moment in

[2:47:05] itself we brought together

[2:47:06] prominent indigenous women from

[2:47:08] Canada, New Zealand, across the

[2:47:10] states and of course New Mexico

[2:47:14] to really dream and imagine

[2:47:16] what technology can be like on

[2:47:16] our terms for economic sovere

[2:47:19] ign ty self determination,

[2:47:22] language and culturely

[2:47:24] appropriate content in

[2:47:25] technology and

[2:47:30] that in itself was a true

[2:47:31] partnership as well with New

[2:47:33] Mexico Community Capital you

[2:47:34] could say they acted as a fiscal

[2:47:35] sponsor for that

[2:47:38] because all of the skills that I

[2:47:40] have obtained up until this past

[2:47:43] august as an entrepreneur I was

[2:47:45] able to raise over47,000 dollars

[2:47:47] for this event within a matter

[2:47:49] of three months and that came

[2:47:50] from pitching

[2:47:54] glittering wogir New Mexico

[2:47:55] community capital to each of

[2:47:56] these sponsors to earn their

[2:47:57] trust and their dollars to

[2:47:58] sponsor this event

[2:48:00] so

[2:48:02] this is that that kind of space

[2:48:04] that the turtle Islandomen in

[2:48:07] tech event created is so

[2:48:09] valuable because as I've been in

[2:48:11] spaces like I mentioned at MIT

[2:48:14] Stanford Snapchat meta and

[2:48:16] some of the leading global

[2:48:18] conferences I see no indigenous

[2:48:20] representation in these spaces

[2:48:24] and so creating an event like

[2:48:25] the turtle Islandomen intech

[2:48:27] event is something that was is

[2:48:28] very much needed

[2:48:30] and it was an event to be

[2:48:33] attended by indigenous people

[2:48:34] non indigenous people, everyone

[2:48:36] so we can create an ecosystem

[2:48:38] and learn how we can work

[2:48:41] together and in innovative ways

[2:48:43] aside from that on glittering

[2:48:44] Worldirls

[2:48:48] with glittering wo girl I've

[2:48:50] been in talk with Bernna Leo

[2:48:52] County and Gallupup Tourism here

[2:48:54] to learn how to bring augmented

[2:48:56] reality programming to schools

[2:48:59] and then also to for the

[2:49:01] gallup tourism efforts as well

[2:49:02] to kind of bring an emerging

[2:49:05] te technology to an

[2:49:06] experience that the tourists get

[2:49:07] to experience when they

[2:49:10] visitallllup. but yeah so I

[2:49:12] just I really want to thank New

[2:49:14] Mexicounity Capi I think that

[2:49:15] what it takes really is

[2:49:19] resources I think through my

[2:49:21] work I realized that it does

[2:49:24] take a a a lot of dollars to be

[2:49:26] able to to create impact to be

[2:49:29] able to offer back to the

[2:49:30] community so through my

[2:49:33] workshops I I offer stipends to

[2:49:36] participants to attend we

[2:49:38] offer catering and then we also

[2:49:41] hire local talent to perform

[2:49:44] at these workshops so yeah I

[2:49:45] think that my ask

[2:49:49] today is for you guys to you

[2:49:51] know support New Mexicoun

[2:49:52] capital because of all of the

[2:49:54] great work that they do they

[2:49:56] really are a leader in the

[2:49:58] whole50 states for innovation

[2:50:01] and indigenous entrepreneurship

[2:50:03] they're creating a whole

[2:50:04] ecosystem of that that is a

[2:50:04] model to be studied

[2:50:09] and so yes the ask is that

[2:50:11] you know we need support as

[2:50:12] entrepreneurs who are trying to

[2:50:14] give back to community and

[2:50:16] create and invent new things for

[2:50:18] the community we need the

[2:50:20] dollars to do that the

[2:50:22] visibility and really the

[2:50:23] community and trust in the

[2:50:25] kinship amongst all of us to

[2:50:27] create that thriving ecosystem.

[2:50:28] thank you

[2:50:31] thank you Akila. so yes

[2:50:38] as of right now no we do not.

[2:50:40] we did receive a small grant

[2:50:42] from the IED this past year

[2:50:43] but we have yeah we have not

[2:50:45] yes and that's also

[2:50:52] we we could have a couple more

[2:50:54] slides but it's up to you ok

[2:50:56] yeah so yeah we'll focus

[2:50:57] we'll just finish up some of the

[2:50:59] slides so Kela was talking

[2:51:00] about our turtle Island women at

[2:51:02] tech event you know, I just want

[2:51:03] to put it out there we had

[2:51:06] over100 entrepreneurs there at

[2:51:08] this event and we had

[2:51:10] BobbyRossette from Canada who

[2:51:11] just sold their business one of

[2:51:13] the first native women business

[2:51:14] owners who just sold their

[2:51:16] business for over400 million

[2:51:17] dollars, right? And so that's

[2:51:19] the type of story that's the

[2:51:20] type of hope that we're

[2:51:20] providing right just

[2:51:23] just examples of that since

[2:51:24] opening up our resilience hub

[2:51:26] we've had over19 different

[2:51:28] pueblos use our space over47

[2:51:31] other tribal nations, ix

[2:51:32] international indigenous groups

[2:51:35] over116 partner organizations we

[2:51:37] host we hope to host you all one

[2:51:38] day as well in the future we

[2:51:40] do film nights art nights

[2:51:42] wellness classes, powwow

[2:51:44] practice drum and native games

[2:51:45] and this is something that we

[2:51:47] want to expand across New Mexico

[2:51:48] right? how do we activate

[2:51:49] downtown spaces we're operating

[2:51:52] in a space called the Occidental

[2:51:54] buildingilding and if you all

[2:51:56] know that means the the western

[2:51:57] building right so it it's really

[2:51:59] symbolic that we have all of

[2:52:01] these indigenous entrepreneurs

[2:52:03] cultural bearers utilizing the

[2:52:04] space one of the nicest

[2:52:06] historical buildings in downtown

[2:52:07] Albuquerque we're hoping to

[2:52:08] purchase that building. we

[2:52:09] know that you all can't help

[2:52:11] with capital outlay but

[2:52:13] that's something that we're also

[2:52:15] fundraising for just a little

[2:52:16] bit about our access to

[2:52:18] community capital the fiscal

[2:52:19] sponsorship grants the stipends,

[2:52:20] the rooted

[2:52:23] relative loan funds the co op

[2:52:24] capital loans and did you

[2:52:25] exchange sales? these are all

[2:52:26] just numbers that we wanted to

[2:52:28] share with you all. We want nex

[2:52:29] this in the next10 years, right?

[2:52:30] this is what something that

[2:52:32] we're passionate about and we

[2:52:33] have a system that I believe

[2:52:35] works not only for indigenous

[2:52:37] communities but rural

[2:52:38] communities across New Mexico

[2:52:39] and that's why we want to keep

[2:52:41] our name New Mexicounity

[2:52:43] Capital. So I'll have thisz

[2:52:45] round us out to with our

[2:52:46] presentations so we could have

[2:52:47] start into questions.

[2:52:54] so as Jake said for the past

[2:52:56] year we've been looking at

[2:52:59] buying our building we've also

[2:53:02] been concerned about operating

[2:53:04] expenses so we can continue this

[2:53:08] work I think it is an

[2:53:10] important piece of programming

[2:53:14] to offer stipends to individuals

[2:53:16] so that raises the cost of the

[2:53:19] program a bit we also offer

[2:53:20] follow

[2:53:24] up mentorship and technical

[2:53:27] assistance so at least3 to5

[2:53:30] hours of mentorship for every

[2:53:33] person is offered and that's not

[2:53:34] just with us that could be with

[2:53:38] others Akila has been a mentor

[2:53:38] another role that

[2:53:42] Akila has filled and we have

[2:53:45] first Friday art walks madam

[2:53:47] chair you look like you have a

[2:53:51] question. OK sounds good so

[2:53:54] we have we offer first Friday

[2:53:56] art walks all the vendors that

[2:53:58] have been in our programs are

[2:54:01] invited to participate in that

[2:54:04] so we don't charge we offer food

[2:54:06] to all of the vendors that come

[2:54:08] so again paying for security

[2:54:12] you know not charging them a

[2:54:14] space buying food and then the

[2:54:17] staff is there that has to take

[2:54:20] part in it and we've done worked

[2:54:24] with the rail yards we've done40

[2:54:27] we've hosted40 different

[2:54:29] individuals we paid for the

[2:54:31] space and given them it to them

[2:54:34] we just wrapped up a five year

[2:54:34] award

[2:54:38] through the future is indigenous

[2:54:40] women so that was a five year

[2:54:43] program that we ran we were the

[2:54:45] recipient of a10 million dollars

[2:54:50] award from Melinda Gates and

[2:54:53] mackenzieco and the Schusterman

[2:54:55] Foundation to make women native

[2:54:57] women more vestable so we did

[2:55:00] that through summits and

[2:55:02] programs and the repatriating

[2:55:04] economies apprenticeship gave

[2:55:08] them a lot of air time and

[2:55:12] interviews and did community

[2:55:14] table building sessions online

[2:55:18] we had5 years of that so we just

[2:55:21] wrapped up we'll have a public

[2:55:22] report out soon

[2:55:28] with that10 million4.6 million

[2:55:31] was given back to community so

[2:55:33] that went through stipends that

[2:55:37] was loans that was technical

[2:55:39] assistance so truly almost half

[2:55:41] of it went back out to everyone

[2:55:43] that participated in the program

[2:55:47] and we'll we'll end this

[2:55:48] presentation with just one other

[2:55:50] example success story

[2:55:52] benendndo the last name might

[2:55:55] sound familiar but again also

[2:55:56] program graduate became a

[2:55:59] fiscally sponsored project

[2:56:00] helped him with branding and

[2:56:02] marketing support and helped him

[2:56:05] buy a property inhama Springs

[2:56:07] and he is fromhama pueblo and

[2:56:08] that was very symbolic to be

[2:56:11] able to have a physical location

[2:56:13] within Hama Springs to offer

[2:56:14] culturally rele relevant

[2:56:14] training capoe

[2:56:18] a training dance classes you

[2:56:20] know to his community it's now a

[2:56:21] community retreat and gathering

[2:56:23] space and just another

[2:56:25] example you know of how they

[2:56:27] went through our system and I

[2:56:28] just want to emphasize this

[2:56:29] because you all probably hear a

[2:56:31] lot of really I don't wanna say

[2:56:33] like sad stories right on this

[2:56:34] committee you know just hearing

[2:56:36] about water addiction. we want

[2:56:37] to bring this this light because

[2:56:39] I think this is the success that

[2:56:41] we want to see more of, right?

[2:56:43] people from the community

[2:56:44] supporting one another and

[2:56:44] really you know taking the

[2:56:49] emphasis to increase their

[2:56:50] generational wealth so I

[2:56:51] think we'll you know pause that

[2:56:53] you get to see a little bit of

[2:56:55] our operating budget as well and

[2:56:56] some future projects but I'll

[2:56:58] have Liz and this end this

[2:56:58] presentation thank you

[2:57:06] so we have have run a budget

[2:57:08] for the past5 years of anywhere

[2:57:13] from3.75 to4.2 million dollars

[2:57:14] and and a lot of that

[2:57:19] that's high for us and that was

[2:57:22] due to the award we managed the

[2:57:25] the funding for this we also

[2:57:28] were able to invest very safely

[2:57:31] in CDs and were backed FDIC

[2:57:34] insured so we're able even to

[2:57:37] make a little bit more but

[2:57:42] just to share that we have 88%

[2:57:44] of the money that funds us comes

[2:57:45] from grants

[2:57:49] and contributions business

[2:57:53] services is 9% for2026 interest

[2:57:54] income is3%.

[2:58:00] we that actually seems high

[2:58:02] but it's lower than what it has

[2:58:06] been has been closer to 95% and

[2:58:09] it's hard to rely on grants and

[2:58:12] private funding for this work

[2:58:16] year after year so we have not

[2:58:19] presented before and there's

[2:58:22] a couple of reasons for us being

[2:58:22] here one is

[2:58:27] we do need to diversify the way

[2:58:30] that we bring funding in and

[2:58:31] we are in a building

[2:58:35] I've been here for 8 years when

[2:58:40] I was here came in 2018 we were

[2:58:42] in a corporate office building

[2:58:44] at the corner of central andhird

[2:58:49] it felt like that was not quite

[2:58:51] our environment but that's where

[2:58:53] we were and where we landed in

[2:58:57] December of 2020 we moved to

[2:59:00] theoccidental building slowly

[2:59:03] took over4,000 square feet of

[2:59:06] space we took over another4,000

[2:59:10] square feet with the building

[2:59:12] and opening of the razillience

[2:59:14] sub two years ago October1st

[2:59:14] will be our

[2:59:18] anniversary and we raised as

[2:59:21] Jake said1.4 million dollars to

[2:59:24] finish that we have plans to

[2:59:27] expand and continue to grow in

[2:59:30] community and we need support

[2:59:33] with raising more money for

[2:59:37] the down payment we want to pair

[2:59:39] with another nonprofit who's

[2:59:42] currently on the 2nd floor and

[2:59:42] do a joint venture

[2:59:47] and own the building and this is

[2:59:52] for the long term vision of NMCc

[2:59:54] we also are looking for funding

[2:59:57] to support our programming so we

[3:00:00] can continue to build on this

[3:00:03] legacy of education and support

[3:00:07] in a way I feel is so unique in

[3:00:10] this area in this atmosphere I I

[3:00:12] truly want to see a continued

[3:00:12] Jake as our program director

[3:00:18] brings his whole life experience

[3:00:20] and it's really magical to see

[3:00:23] him lead classes and I've

[3:00:24] learned lots so

[3:00:27] we also want to move into

[3:00:29] tech more so and do it in the

[3:00:32] best way possible not relying on

[3:00:34] data centers where not for data

[3:00:38] centers but we see data servers

[3:00:40] perhaps on the second floor to

[3:00:44] make local models right and

[3:00:46] yeah and Jake has done a lot of

[3:00:48] work there he had previously

[3:00:50] worked in the grow with

[3:00:53] Google environment and for

[3:00:54] several years so

[3:00:57] they supported us and actually

[3:00:59] just granted us a little bit of

[3:01:02] money so we can continue that

[3:01:05] work with them and also of

[3:01:08] course agg right growing food

[3:01:10] we have in the resilience hub we

[3:01:12] have a gathering space that

[3:01:18] seats175 people we have a a seed

[3:01:20] vault it was previously a bank

[3:01:23] we've converted that into exceed

[3:01:24] exchange

[3:01:26] vaults so its temperature

[3:01:29] controlled mud all the way on

[3:01:31] the inside and we're having

[3:01:33] furniture we just fundraised

[3:01:36] for this having some custom

[3:01:38] pieces made so it is can be

[3:01:41] usable by community Wales of

[3:01:43] wellness space in the resilience

[3:01:45] hub so that could be

[3:01:48] traditional healing or western

[3:01:48] healing so

[3:01:51] that is our little community and

[3:01:56] we want to continue this work so

[3:02:02] I am just on the I don't

[3:02:04] know what this is the time sorry

[3:02:05] since it's my first

[3:02:07] presentation but we're trying to

[3:02:09] raise a million dollars to help

[3:02:12] with programming and developing

[3:02:15] the next vision and version of

[3:02:17] our entrepreneurial program

[3:02:19] which are called razilian

[3:02:22] circles it's already been tried

[3:02:25] out in Alaska so it is a whole

[3:02:26] wholelistic application

[3:02:31] of entrepreneurial coursework

[3:02:34] while also recognizing that

[3:02:35] there are real needs that our

[3:02:37] entrepreneurs have that are not

[3:02:40] met with that western model so

[3:02:40] that

[3:02:44] the building and just to

[3:02:45] continue the work we do and take

[3:02:48] a chance on people like Akila

[3:02:50] right I mean she was gonna make

[3:02:52] it wherever she was where

[3:02:54] fortunate that she partnered and

[3:02:57] paired with us for this kind

[3:03:00] of work but she's also gonna be

[3:03:04] just fine so that is our

[3:03:07] presentation and just want to

[3:03:08] thank you all for your attention

[3:03:10] so we had to present during

[3:03:13] lunch but yeah thank you

[3:03:16] thank you I remember when

[3:03:17] Sheilla and Melissa were first I

[3:03:18] think out

[3:03:21] I'd like to say it seemed like

[3:03:22] it was just

[3:03:29] before yeah way before I don't

[3:03:30] remember them mentioning bonero

[3:03:32] in in anybody's mind or even

[3:03:34] that thought of it but thank

[3:03:34] youpresentative Lindstrom

[3:03:37] madam chairir I just have some

[3:03:39] quick questions. I'm looking

[3:03:41] at your handout which says core

[3:03:43] annual programming and when you

[3:03:44] talk about access to community

[3:03:44] capital

[3:03:48] the first page of this handout

[3:03:50] talks about you being a venture

[3:03:52] capitalist but then it talks

[3:03:54] about giving micro grants

[3:03:56] nonpredatory loans so what

[3:03:58] are you? I mean you've got

[3:04:00] everything under the sun in

[3:04:02] here. what specifically do you

[3:04:04] do iss it venture capital work?

[3:04:05] is it grants what is it

[3:04:08] Yeah I'll I'll get to share that

[3:04:10] it's an evolution, right? So we

[3:04:11] started as a venture capital

[3:04:13] fund we saw that venture capital

[3:04:14] wasn't fitting our entrepreneur

[3:04:16] sector right so we went into

[3:04:18] CDFI right and doing loans went

[3:04:20] through the program at the time

[3:04:21] around10 years ago we didn't

[3:04:23] have many people interested in

[3:04:24] those loans even though they

[3:04:26] were low interest still that

[3:04:28] that apprehension to take out

[3:04:30] loan right debtbased financing.

[3:04:31] So we went specifically in

[3:04:33] grants and grant support of

[3:04:34] course everyone loves grants

[3:04:35] right nonrecoverable grants

[3:04:39] right now we're looking at being

[3:04:41] an intermediary as we know the

[3:04:42] state investment council the

[3:04:43] strategy that's behind that we

[3:04:44] feel like we're a really strong

[3:04:46] intermediary and we feel like

[3:04:47] we're really strong fiscal

[3:04:50] sponsor that does programming so

[3:04:51] I'll let Liz kind of share that

[3:04:53] we actually also with our

[3:04:55] with our rooted relative fund

[3:04:56] you could also share about that

[3:04:56] structure.

[3:05:00] so I I feel like we're doing a

[3:05:03] redo for everything so we're not

[3:05:06] in venture capital anymore I

[3:05:08] think you know I can argue that

[3:05:12] we're taking risks on people but

[3:05:14] really we're not looking at it

[3:05:18] that way we are one of three

[3:05:21] pilot nonprofits to in arizona

[3:05:26] and one here via RCAc to run

[3:05:26] the rooted relative fund so

[3:05:31] this is one of the community

[3:05:36] capital pieces we offer3% at

[3:05:42] a loans up to $250,000 so we

[3:05:44] have this for three years we're

[3:05:47] just starting our3rd year of it

[3:05:51] we're supporting CJ

[3:05:54] Bernal in Taos pueblo and Don

[3:05:56] butterfly cafe so we came in

[3:05:57] with the

[3:06:00] you know the capital stack he

[3:06:03] needed to convert a restaurant

[3:06:06] outside Taos pueblo we helped

[3:06:10] other make other folks like him

[3:06:13] nicole Arthun who came from

[3:06:15] changing women initiative and is

[3:06:18] starting you to be brief. OK

[3:06:21] OK so it's a3% loan that's what

[3:06:22] you offer

[3:06:27] and is that a flat rate or is

[3:06:29] that does that change with

[3:06:34] interest it is a flat rate3% so

[3:06:37] in case you were before another

[3:06:38] committee through the chair and

[3:06:41] then to the to the rep apologize

[3:06:44] yeah madam chairirpresentative

[3:06:47] Luundstrom apologies

[3:06:51] so instead of the native CDy

[3:06:52] that we're part of we knew that

[3:06:53] we had

[3:06:56] to do something differently so

[3:06:58] we went with two different loans

[3:07:01] that are relationshipbased loans

[3:07:04] one is co op Capital which is on

[3:07:07] air which is a5% fixed rate loan

[3:07:11] up to50,000 dollars the other is

[3:07:14] rooted relative fund which is up

[3:07:19] to 250,000 that's a3% so we have

[3:07:22] the capacity of lending3 million

[3:07:23] dollars

[3:07:29] we've lent so far one.05 million

[3:07:32] over the past two years were now

[3:07:35] building a program around it

[3:07:36] because we see the need so

[3:07:37] relationship based lending

[3:07:41] so that's what we turned it into

[3:07:45] versus just regular bank

[3:07:46] loans or lending

[3:07:49] Yeah I

[3:07:52] madam chairir and presenters, I

[3:07:53] appreciate you bringing this up

[3:07:54] but

[3:07:58] I live in this world so it's not

[3:08:01] that I'm trying to to poke

[3:08:03] holes through this. I just want

[3:08:04] to understand it. I wonders

[3:08:05] understand what you're actually

[3:08:06] doing here because

[3:08:08] when you talk I would take that

[3:08:10] whole venture capital thing out

[3:08:11] of here because the first thing

[3:08:12] I thought when I looked at that

[3:08:14] is how much do you guys get of

[3:08:16] the company? How much do you own

[3:08:16] of the companies that you helped

[3:08:17] them

[3:08:19] but I'm glad you're not doing

[3:08:20] that and I'm glad you're not

[3:08:24] because I can't imagine any

[3:08:26] small entrepreneur coming to you

[3:08:26] and asking for those kind of

[3:08:27] loans either

[3:08:31] so just trying to trying to

[3:08:32] get my arms around what you're

[3:08:34] trying to do now as a nonprofit

[3:08:38] it's hard for us the state as a

[3:08:38] state

[3:08:39] to provide

[3:08:43] capital outlay or even general

[3:08:45] appropriation funds to

[3:08:48] nonprofits you have to have a

[3:08:50] fiscal agent that can accept

[3:08:51] those funds do you have somebody

[3:08:52] like that or did you know

[3:09:00] yes madam chair andres

[3:09:04] Lindstrom where I did not

[3:09:07] know that I needed a physical to

[3:09:08] accept those funds

[3:09:12] we can talk offline about that

[3:09:14] or anyone can help you with

[3:09:16] it but I I was just curious how

[3:09:17] that was going to work we we are

[3:09:18] not allowed

[3:09:22] to give funding directly to

[3:09:24] nonprofits especially for

[3:09:24] capital purposes

[3:09:28] but this programming looks very

[3:09:29] intriguing and I'm surprised

[3:09:31] that it wouldn't fit under some

[3:09:32] of our existing programs

[3:09:36] just just bring that to your

[3:09:38] attention thank you madam chair

[3:09:40] thank you thank youpresentative.

[3:09:41] Any other questions from

[3:09:42] committee members?

[3:09:42] Representative roybarabballero.

[3:09:46] thank you madam chair and thank

[3:09:48] you very much I I do understand

[3:09:49] fully what you're doing. I've

[3:09:50] done this

[3:09:50] probably when it

[3:09:54] we were trailblazing this whole

[3:09:55] concept of community economic

[3:09:56] development

[3:09:59] that approach was done in the

[3:10:03] early1980s actually it was

[3:10:05] an experimental federal

[3:10:09] program that began under the

[3:10:10] Reagan administration's

[3:10:11] self-help concepts

[3:10:14] right that was a long time ago.

[3:10:16] So we set up an entity similar

[3:10:19] to yours in southern end of

[3:10:20] southern New Mexico and

[3:10:22] El Paso region

[3:10:25] excuse me and again as I said it

[3:10:26] was ahead of its time

[3:10:29] it was also sponsored through

[3:10:30] the Development training

[3:10:32] institute out of Baltimore at

[3:10:34] Maryland which is where I got my

[3:10:36] certification madam chairir. So

[3:10:40] I I'm I'm fully aware of what

[3:10:42] you're attempting to do and what

[3:10:44] you're doing actually so I have

[3:10:45] a couple of questions and that

[3:10:46] is

[3:10:50] we do have and I think you

[3:10:52] mentioned it the

[3:10:58] state in investment co, can you

[3:11:00] explain a little bit more what

[3:11:01] did you establish a relationship

[3:11:02] with the SIC?

[3:11:04] madam chairirpresentative

[3:11:08] Caballero we are we are

[3:11:09] currently establishing that

[3:11:10] relationship with the state

[3:11:11] investment council we're trying

[3:11:13] to find out what our niche is

[3:11:15] you know we know that they they

[3:11:16] have invested over $2 billion in

[3:11:18] over40 different venture capital

[3:11:20] funds and we're wanting to just

[3:11:21] again build relations find any

[3:11:23] clues that you all have. this is

[3:11:25] exactly why we're here just

[3:11:26] making those introductions

[3:11:26] because we yeah we feel like we

[3:11:27] can help

[3:11:30] the state. thank you madam Chair

[3:11:32] and thank you. I think to

[3:11:34] continue to establish that

[3:11:36] relationship is important also

[3:11:37] the relationship with the New

[3:11:39] Mexico finance Authority I

[3:11:40] think that

[3:11:44] you they will explain to you the

[3:11:46] various steps that would be

[3:11:48] necessary for your entity to be

[3:11:51] able to enter into a

[3:11:53] relationship at the state level

[3:11:55] and address the the questions

[3:11:58] that have come up with by

[3:11:59] Representative Luundstrom and

[3:12:01] other andpresentative Lumstrom

[3:12:02] and

[3:12:03] it it

[3:12:08] it will guide you in terms of

[3:12:09] the steps that you need to

[3:12:11] follow in building that

[3:12:13] relationship because this is a

[3:12:14] fine area of

[3:12:18] concentration you have

[3:12:19] identified the downtown

[3:12:21] Albuquerque revitalization, the

[3:12:23] ethical Ai agricultural work as

[3:12:26] your focus I guess your your

[3:12:27] focus

[3:12:29] in terms of

[3:12:32] fundraising and I think it's

[3:12:34] really important those three

[3:12:35] areas agricultural work madam

[3:12:37] chairir is vitally important

[3:12:39] right now because we've got to

[3:12:42] bring in that indigenous

[3:12:44] knowledge that we have in terms

[3:12:46] of agriculture and food

[3:12:46] preservation

[3:12:49] we're faced with a climate

[3:12:52] crisis we're also faced with an

[3:12:55] unwanted war we're also faced

[3:12:56] with a very

[3:13:00] gloomy future in terms of water

[3:13:04] in terms of pollution of our

[3:13:07] air and land and destruction of

[3:13:09] our land so a lot of these and

[3:13:11] so we've got to bring back that

[3:13:13] indigenous knowledge madam

[3:13:16] chair to help us find ways to

[3:13:20] preserve food for the future

[3:13:22] should we faced and when it's

[3:13:23] not going to happen in our

[3:13:25] lifetime I'm worried about our

[3:13:26] children and grandchildren and

[3:13:27] great grandchild

[3:13:28] re n because they may be faced

[3:13:31] with well I don't know in our

[3:13:33] lifetime we may face invasion of

[3:13:36] our utilities or the outages

[3:13:38] more and more outages and lack

[3:13:39] of water we already heard this

[3:13:41] morning madam chairir that we

[3:13:42] have communities which is

[3:13:45] appalling to me that are

[3:13:47] faced with all those conditions

[3:13:48] still

[3:13:49] in this time period

[3:13:52] so I just want to make sure

[3:13:53] that

[3:13:59] we establish you as a a

[3:14:02] real strong place within again

[3:14:04] New Mexico finance Authority and

[3:14:05] the state Investment co in

[3:14:07] particular those two entities so

[3:14:09] that you can be of further

[3:14:10] service to our

[3:14:14] ribes nations and pueblos and

[3:14:16] bring bring all of that success

[3:14:18] forward and last point is I do

[3:14:20] want to commend you and your

[3:14:22] funder acknowledgements

[3:14:24] because you you have tapped into

[3:14:26] the US economic development,

[3:14:29] small business and the

[3:14:30] administration for Native

[3:14:31] Americans those were all

[3:14:32] entities that we were

[3:14:36] so they were very strong support

[3:14:37] so thank you very much thank you

[3:14:38] madam chair

[3:14:40] madamirpresentative Caballero

[3:14:42] thank you so much for your words

[3:14:44] we also received atl grant

[3:14:45] from the Mexico Economic

[3:14:46] Development to become a

[3:14:48] certified incubator and

[3:14:49] accelerator so that I think that

[3:14:50] also answers your

[3:14:52] questionpresentative Liundstrom

[3:14:54] as well so we definitely want to

[3:14:55] stay in conversations we want

[3:14:56] just more Face time you know we

[3:14:57] hear that a lot of people have

[3:14:59] never heard of New Mexico

[3:15:01] community capital so that's also

[3:15:02] a reason why we're here we want

[3:15:03] to make sure that we're in

[3:15:05] community making the trips out

[3:15:07] to gallup and other locations

[3:15:08] and lastly we also

[3:15:11] helped bidi Baoos Zachariah

[3:15:14] Mary ben buy a four acre farm

[3:15:14] outside of Farmington in aztec,

[3:15:17] New Mexico and help them with

[3:15:19] their freeze drying operation

[3:15:20] and baby food line. so thank

[3:15:20] you.

[3:15:23] thank youpresentative

[3:15:26] any other questions for members

[3:15:27] so

[3:15:30] you want a million dollars to do

[3:15:31] building.

[3:15:37] madam chairir we do but we

[3:15:39] also I think we're a s re kind

[3:15:41] of framing that for programming

[3:15:43] so we're not asking asking for

[3:15:44] capital

[3:15:45] at this point that that that's a

[3:15:46] whole different thing now

[3:15:50] willing to do that but what's

[3:15:52] your background akila what did

[3:15:55] you get a degree at Stanford or

[3:15:58] what what what kind of or yeah

[3:16:00] so I like I said I'm from south

[3:16:01] of Gallup and I primarily live

[3:16:04] there now. I got a bachelor of

[3:16:05] fine arts from Universityiv of

[3:16:08] New Mexico and then I went

[3:16:08] and took care of my grandma into

[3:16:11] hospice up until 2018 and then I

[3:16:13] kind of entered theXR augmented

[3:16:15] reality technology scene

[3:16:17] through a nontraditional route

[3:16:18] so I did a lot of

[3:16:20] like coding boot camps but what

[3:16:22] I did is that I attended

[3:16:24] hackathons at like MIt and

[3:16:26] Stanford joined teams and then

[3:16:27] that's how I won the awards

[3:16:30] there and the reason I ask is

[3:16:31] because when one of the

[3:16:32] granddaughters too wanted

[3:16:36] I believe graphic arts degree

[3:16:37] good didn't have any here in New

[3:16:40] Mexico are higher education

[3:16:41] institutions didn't offer so she

[3:16:44] had to go out of state and what

[3:16:46] I'm reading too with some of our

[3:16:48] higher education institutions

[3:16:49] you went through fine arts but

[3:16:51] you probably just had one or two

[3:16:54] classes in digital or technology

[3:16:56] yeah it was only just a few that

[3:16:57] were offered but that's kind of

[3:16:59] where I really saw coding as

[3:17:02] an avenue for me and then

[3:17:02] that it exactly like

[3:17:06] I had to join a I received an

[3:17:08] immersive technology fellowship

[3:17:09] that enabled me to travel

[3:17:11] between Los Angeles and New York

[3:17:14] City to learn about social

[3:17:15] entrepreneurship coupled withXR

[3:17:16] technologies so that's kind of

[3:17:18] like what really was

[3:17:20] foundational for me and then

[3:17:22] the supporting the supportive

[3:17:24] environment that NMCc provide

[3:17:25] was really

[3:17:29] huge for me because like even

[3:17:30] I've had family members talk

[3:17:32] down on me saying like why are

[3:17:32] you going down this

[3:17:34] nontraditional path like you

[3:17:35] should just get a regular job

[3:17:37] you know like not believing in

[3:17:40] the vision so like I think that

[3:17:42] I think a lot of entrepreneurs

[3:17:44] we can face an environment like

[3:17:45] that but when we step into a

[3:17:48] supportive environment like NMCc

[3:17:50] that I think is a really like

[3:17:53] a local environment that was

[3:17:54] really helpful for me on my

[3:17:55] journey

[3:17:56] and you think that's one thing

[3:17:58] that I'm not I mean we do try to

[3:18:00] do stuff through our career

[3:18:00] technical education

[3:18:05] but when we talk about a lot of

[3:18:06] this doing with the coding and

[3:18:07] online I don't think our

[3:18:08] curriculum

[3:18:13] still with the traditional

[3:18:15] route but we're not adapting

[3:18:18] very much very quickly and I

[3:18:19] think that's where we end up

[3:18:21] lacking very much behind. Yeah.

[3:18:23] so one of my funders that is

[3:18:25] actually most likely gonna be

[3:18:26] renewed before the end of the

[3:18:28] year and that's the fiscal

[3:18:30] the funding went through the

[3:18:32] these guys as a fiscal agent

[3:18:34] that is the next mission is

[3:18:36] programming especially on the

[3:18:38] Navajo Nation and then

[3:18:39] there's also another source of

[3:18:40] fun

[3:18:42] ding that glittering world girl

[3:18:44] is tapping into to bring

[3:18:46] technologyXR technology

[3:18:47] programming associated with

[3:18:50] mural creation so it's like art

[3:18:52] and technology like s steam

[3:18:55] into Bernnailo County as well so

[3:18:57] yeah and I think that with

[3:19:00] with the budget cuts that

[3:19:02] schools have been seeing this

[3:19:04] could be a model too that

[3:19:06] programming that goes into

[3:19:06] schools and that they don't have

[3:19:09] to fund it themselves so you did

[3:19:10] receive

[3:19:12] money from the nation and that's

[3:19:14] the thing I'm kind of so the the

[3:19:16] bit confused about in some sense

[3:19:17] because you're saying you're the

[3:19:18] only native American nonprofit

[3:19:21] yes you're probably the only

[3:19:24] nonprofit but our tribes nations

[3:19:26] and pueblos do there do you have

[3:19:27] their own economic development

[3:19:29] money but you did not receive it

[3:19:31] or you didn't qualify for it. I

[3:19:36] madam chairir, I I have not

[3:19:37] received money from the Navajo

[3:19:38] Nation.

[3:19:41] you didn't qualify or you didn't

[3:19:43] never applied or what what what

[3:19:45] do you to be clear I did receive

[3:19:47] their the hardship assistance

[3:19:50] that was for the artisans

[3:19:51] during COVID that's the that's

[3:19:53] what I've received from the

[3:19:55] Navajo Nation that was for

[3:19:57] small businesses and artisans

[3:19:59] for COID during theOID pandemic

[3:20:03] but I honestly have not even

[3:20:04] tried to see if I could apply

[3:20:06] for funding from the Navajo

[3:20:06] Nation past that

[3:20:10] so then that's the thing I'm

[3:20:11] wondering too with the nonpro

[3:20:13] you know a nonprofit as far as a

[3:20:16] resource too is that the funding

[3:20:16] also

[3:20:21] that you also put them in touch

[3:20:22] with their own tribes nations

[3:20:24] and publiclos because they find

[3:20:26] that as the fiscal agent that's

[3:20:27] where our money would be

[3:20:28] funneled to to LEA

[3:20:31] in that way and that our tribes

[3:20:33] nations of pueblos can apply for

[3:20:35] it to implement these programs

[3:20:37] within there as far as

[3:20:39] sovereignty and when you were

[3:20:40] speaking about just women

[3:20:41] receiving something like that

[3:20:43] but that I don't think is

[3:20:45] something we do in general we

[3:20:48] try to it's not about sex it's

[3:20:50] just about you know making

[3:20:52] sure everybody has that

[3:20:53] opportunity equal opportunity

[3:20:55] for the funding so very

[3:20:57] interesting but I like very

[3:20:58] much needed for what you're

[3:20:58] doing

[3:21:00] but you know we need further

[3:21:03] discussion and clarity so I do

[3:21:04] offer you to you know talk to

[3:21:05] our members here to to

[3:21:13] ation and even as far as

[3:21:15] moving forward in need I don't

[3:21:16] know if you have any closing

[3:21:16] comments

[3:21:21] madam chairirpresentative

[3:21:24] senators they just want to thank

[3:21:27] you for your patience and time

[3:21:31] and attention and this is

[3:21:34] really important work to us and

[3:21:36] I feel that

[3:21:42] we do an amazing heartfelt

[3:21:44] job with community and we want

[3:21:48] to see it continue so if there

[3:21:50] are opportunities you know of

[3:21:53] that we don't know and to be

[3:21:57] honest I am not as familiar. I

[3:21:59] can talk about grants all day

[3:22:02] longvi donors that kind of thing

[3:22:06] so much the the state facing and

[3:22:06] don't so

[3:22:09] yeah I just want to say thank

[3:22:11] you I appreciate your help and

[3:22:14] if you have any other

[3:22:16] recommendations or tips ok

[3:22:16] wonderful

[3:22:20] do you know thank you so much

[3:22:23] have a very good day thank you

[3:22:25] thank you and now we will move

[3:22:26] on to public comment

[3:22:30] with our people here

[3:22:32] and we don't have anybody online

[3:22:35] so we don't

[3:22:39] 78 people

[3:22:43] So I think Peter's doing it

[3:22:46] oh he's don't say

[3:22:48] someone can call Bill Lee

[3:22:49] outside

[3:22:53] I'll text him. OK

[3:22:56] we can we'll do one before

[3:23:00] before Peter with Peter in there

[3:23:01] with him too

[3:23:03] can Ken's not here

[3:23:06] reagan

[3:23:07] Hawthorne

[3:23:10] may come up introduce yourself

[3:23:46] Good afternoon madam chair

[3:23:46] members of the committee

[3:23:49] thank you for the invitation and

[3:23:52] for the permission to speak. I

[3:23:53] am Reagan Hawthorne. I am from

[3:23:56] the magnolito chapter and the

[3:23:57] community services coordinator

[3:23:58] there at manualito have been

[3:24:00] with manualitto chapter since

[3:24:00] November of last year

[3:24:05] just about a month ago I

[3:24:06] received an invitation through

[3:24:08] email to sit before the

[3:24:10] committee and express some

[3:24:11] thoughts about believe it was

[3:24:12] capital outlay

[3:24:14] I shared that invitation with

[3:24:18] our chapter officials and Mr

[3:24:19] Daniel Lee our chapter president

[3:24:22] is here with me today. I have

[3:24:24] not come with a script per se

[3:24:25] but would have come with is a

[3:24:27] message and a couple of

[3:24:29] inquiries so I'll allow Mr. Lee

[3:24:30] to introduce himself.

[3:24:34] good afternoon. chair

[3:24:38] and committee thank you for

[3:24:39] inviting us and then

[3:24:43] it's like Reagan said my CSE

[3:24:44] and

[3:24:46] then do a little bit of a

[3:24:49] presentation and we'll just do

[3:24:51] it offhands instead of having

[3:24:52] notes and all that so

[3:24:52] thank you

[3:24:59] Again madam chair members of the

[3:25:01] committee representing

[3:25:03] mannuitto chapter first and

[3:25:06] foremost we are a smaller

[3:25:09] chapter our our service area

[3:25:11] probably covers just under1,000

[3:25:13] individuals now who are

[3:25:16] individuals we have numerous

[3:25:18] capital outlay projects we have

[3:25:21] I believe14 projects upwards of

[3:25:24] $6 million that are in the in in

[3:25:25] the cooker so to speak we have a

[3:25:26] number that are very very active

[3:25:27] we have a number

[3:25:31] that are being delayed the

[3:25:32] biggest portion of the delayed

[3:25:34] projects falls upon our

[3:25:34] electrification projects

[3:25:36] the biggest

[3:25:40] obstacle for our electrification

[3:25:42] power line residential projects

[3:25:45] is right of way access given

[3:25:47] the various land statuses that

[3:25:48] we have in your manually to

[3:25:49] chapter of course we're on

[3:25:52] Navajo Trust land we're also on

[3:25:54] allotted land we are on state

[3:25:56] land we have a number of issues

[3:25:57] that are very very challenging

[3:26:00] so getting the rights of way is

[3:26:03] a very very extensive experience

[3:26:06] I am looking right now at one

[3:26:07] particular project that has

[3:26:10] been on the books for manuallito

[3:26:14] chapters since 2008 and the

[3:26:15] biggest hindrance there is the

[3:26:18] right of way access. now the

[3:26:20] the contracting company

[3:26:21] continental Divide has done

[3:26:23] their share of reaching out.

[3:26:26] They are in now in the fourth

[3:26:29] round of sending out appeals for

[3:26:30] right of way through allottees

[3:26:32] and things of that nature. So

[3:26:34] and where I'm going with this is

[3:26:36] I I would like to see some sort

[3:26:37] of a

[3:26:41] an amendment or an addressing of

[3:26:43] an issue here in these kinds of

[3:26:46] situations where where a lottes

[3:26:48] and other land issues are really

[3:26:50] an obstacle to getting the right

[3:26:51] of way in for these

[3:26:53] electrification projects we

[3:26:55] have4 clients on this particular

[3:26:57] project that have been waiting

[3:26:58] for power for

[3:27:00] a number of years 20 since 2008

[3:27:03] and if there if there could be

[3:27:05] some some investigatory

[3:27:06] committee or something perhaps

[3:27:08] we can offer some solutions

[3:27:10] perhaps manuallito chapter

[3:27:13] could be more forward more more

[3:27:17] proactive in reaching out to

[3:27:19] the allottees but the biggest

[3:27:20] obstacle that we're seeing is

[3:27:24] right of way just gaining

[3:27:25] right of way

[3:27:29] whether whether it be you know

[3:27:30] the the allottes on the

[3:27:32] allotment lands there are some

[3:27:34] state land issues we we're

[3:27:34] just

[3:27:38] I'm going to say we're we're a

[3:27:40] little frustrated at it of

[3:27:41] course they're there are there

[3:27:42] are other issues there are there

[3:27:45] are some systems systemic issues

[3:27:47] within the the processes

[3:27:49] withnavo Nation there are other

[3:27:50] issues there but the biggest

[3:27:52] problem we have is gaining right

[3:27:54] of way so for the

[3:27:54] electrification

[3:27:59] secondly I would appeal to

[3:28:00] this committee

[3:28:06] to advocate for a voice in an

[3:28:09] area called manualito Big House

[3:28:11] Ruins. It is a national historic

[3:28:15] landmark there are3 families

[3:28:16] that have been in that area

[3:28:19] that that that that that's their

[3:28:22] homeland and they do not have

[3:28:23] the basic

[3:28:27] infrastructure needed they do

[3:28:28] not have water lines they do not

[3:28:29] have power

[3:28:33] I am meeting Wednesday with

[3:28:35] these families on what I have

[3:28:38] coined as the big house task

[3:28:41] forcece. What I want to do is

[3:28:43] gain an audience with our

[3:28:45] Navonation source and

[3:28:46] Developmentittee to see if we

[3:28:49] can't advocate that this

[3:28:50] property which is on state land

[3:28:53] there is on the fringes of this

[3:28:54] property

[3:28:55] a power line

[3:28:58] one of the families on this

[3:28:58] property does have power

[3:29:02] but there are two other families

[3:29:03] there that have no power and

[3:29:05] have no water. the families that

[3:29:07] are that are without the water

[3:29:08] they do

[3:29:10] live on a cistern system

[3:29:14] but the fellow's getting old and

[3:29:15] he can't operate that cistern

[3:29:18] and these things these are not

[3:29:21] gonna change so my petition here

[3:29:23] particularly tends to a voice

[3:29:27] perhaps a voice with the state

[3:29:29] land board with from our

[3:29:31] constituents there at manualito

[3:29:33] through thenavo Nation Resource

[3:29:35] and Development Committee. I

[3:29:37] don't pretend to be a a

[3:29:39] magnanimous voice for everybody

[3:29:40] but I believe if we have the

[3:29:42] backing of our own council that

[3:29:44] we can talk to the the New

[3:29:45] Mexico State Land Commission and

[3:29:46] through this committee here

[3:29:47] perhaps gain

[3:29:52] gain some ground on bringing

[3:29:53] infrastructure to these families

[3:29:56] that live on the on the the

[3:29:58] perimeters of this historic

[3:30:00] landmark so those are my two

[3:30:01] messages today

[3:30:08] Yeah I like to add to that we

[3:30:09] did contact

[3:30:10] Santape

[3:30:12] and

[3:30:16] they just told us to get

[3:30:18] representative like you guys and

[3:30:19] saying that ok

[3:30:24] we we know about the spartan

[3:30:24] all this

[3:30:29] other stuff like GPS and all

[3:30:32] that and you know you guys know

[3:30:34] whereabouts this place is then

[3:30:38] they recommendations and then

[3:30:40] that way they can somebody from

[3:30:42] the commission can override it

[3:30:42] and that's the reason why we're

[3:30:44] here and

[3:30:49] even with the roads that's the

[3:30:50] reason why some of our capital

[3:30:52] outlay went and reverted back

[3:30:53] and we tried working

[3:30:55] with the

[3:30:58] county commissioners

[3:31:00] and then

[3:31:01] some of our

[3:31:03] projects

[3:31:07] went and reverted back and it's

[3:31:10] due to the consents like he said

[3:31:14] well right away and then now

[3:31:15] they said that they revoked it

[3:31:16] all the

[3:31:18] MOUs so

[3:31:20] we don't know

[3:31:23] you know what's going to happen

[3:31:25] now because a lot of people that

[3:31:26] are in a community has

[3:31:28] kids that go to school

[3:31:33] and at the same time they

[3:31:34] commute

[3:31:34] to gallup

[3:31:35] so

[3:31:40] with that being said

[3:31:43] we should like to have them help

[3:31:44] from you guys

[3:31:45] as far as

[3:31:50] and doing all this other stuff

[3:31:51] and then that way we can move on

[3:31:54] with our projects and improve on

[3:31:57] some of the roads and provide

[3:31:59] service like water service and

[3:32:01] power line to these community

[3:32:03] members that's what we're asking

[3:32:06] of today and at the same time

[3:32:08] on the other hand

[3:32:12] my wife is a teacher in Tohachi

[3:32:14] and they moved us to

[3:32:20] twin lakes and we do have issues

[3:32:21] with the power line and water

[3:32:25] there's no power there's no

[3:32:26] pressure in the water most of

[3:32:27] the time

[3:32:31] and then in the middle of my

[3:32:32] wife doing her lesson plan

[3:32:36] the power goes off there's no

[3:32:39] surcharge or anything we

[3:32:40] complained about that so many

[3:32:41] times

[3:32:44] every time it goes out we

[3:32:44] complain to

[3:32:46] NTUA

[3:32:48] they had done nothing

[3:32:53] and even our our street light

[3:32:54] right outside our trailer

[3:32:57] it just goes out they haven't

[3:32:58] done nothing about it

[3:32:58] so

[3:33:00] that's

[3:33:04] the other thing that I wanted to

[3:33:06] add to twin Lakes that were

[3:33:06] here present

[3:33:08] during the presentation

[3:33:09] thank you

[3:33:14] thank you thank you for your

[3:33:16] your words there and we'll move

[3:33:19] on to our next Bille and then

[3:33:20] I don't know if Peter is

[3:33:27] Oh yeah so this is public

[3:33:28] comment so we don't want to ask

[3:33:28] questions but I'll talk

[3:33:47] Good afternoon madam chair

[3:33:49] members of the committee staff

[3:33:50] thank you for allowing me a few

[3:33:52] minutes today my name is Bill

[3:33:54] Lee I'm with KJg Strategy

[3:33:56] registered lobbyists for

[3:33:58] Levanova a company devoted to

[3:34:01] helping people living with

[3:34:03] drug resistant epilepsy or what

[3:34:06] is referred to as DRE I want

[3:34:06] to say thank you to

[3:34:08] Representative Lindstrom. She

[3:34:09] along with Representative

[3:34:11] Herndon have sponsored

[3:34:13] legislation concerning this

[3:34:14] issue that I bring before you

[3:34:14] today during public comment

[3:34:18] leavingvanova manufactures

[3:34:19] what is called a vagus nerve

[3:34:22] stimulation a BNS therapy

[3:34:23] treatment that can actually

[3:34:25] reduce seizures and improve a

[3:34:27] patient's quality of life. it's

[3:34:28] been approved by the FDA and has

[3:34:30] been been available for ir0

[3:34:32] years. Today what I'd like to

[3:34:35] share more than the the the VNS

[3:34:37] system itself is the impact that

[3:34:38] people living with drug

[3:34:41] resistant epilepsy in a face in

[3:34:43] New Mexico when most people hear

[3:34:44] that word epilepsy they think

[3:34:45] this is a

[3:34:46] condition that can be controlled

[3:34:48] primarily by medication but the

[3:34:51] sad truth is about1 in3

[3:34:53] individuals is not treatable or

[3:34:54] they are not treatable by

[3:34:56] medications and so despite

[3:34:59] trying several anti seizure

[3:35:01] therapies and medications

[3:35:02] these patients are considered to

[3:35:03] have what is called drug

[3:35:06] resistant epilepsy DRE and

[3:35:08] for these patients a seizure is

[3:35:10] more than just an event it can

[3:35:12] actually be life threatening

[3:35:14] and lead to death. as this

[3:35:14] challenge dis

[3:35:16] p ro port ion ate ly affects

[3:35:17] some of New Mexico's most

[3:35:20] vulnerable populations and

[3:35:22] that is why we are in particular

[3:35:24] speaking about this today in

[3:35:25] front of this committeesearch

[3:35:26] shows that Native American

[3:35:28] communities experience a greater

[3:35:31] burden of epilepsy and epilepsy

[3:35:33] related disparities than many

[3:35:34] other populations in fact the

[3:35:36] Navajo nation it is estimated

[3:35:40] alone has about1600 cases of

[3:35:43] drug resistant epilepsy yet

[3:35:44] despite this need New Mexico has

[3:35:44] been left

[3:35:47] with an extraordinary access

[3:35:49] problem and a challenge that

[3:35:51] we still face today. The

[3:35:52] Universityiv of New Mexico

[3:35:53] hospitalspital is the only

[3:35:55] hospital in our state performing

[3:35:59] VNS implant procedures and we

[3:36:02] may soon lose them as the

[3:36:05] only provider in the state the

[3:36:06] reason is simple the low

[3:36:09] medicaid reimbursement to

[3:36:11] hospitals for the procedure is

[3:36:13] far too low and has not changed

[3:36:14] since 2014 when

[3:36:17] an entire state depends on a

[3:36:19] single hospital for access to

[3:36:20] specialized therapy patients and

[3:36:22] families often face of course

[3:36:24] significant barriers manyy must

[3:36:26] travel long distances multiple

[3:36:29] times consultations surgery

[3:36:31] and followup care. Some require

[3:36:33] transportation assistance. this

[3:36:35] includes airlifts from places

[3:36:37] like Gallup others simply do

[3:36:38] not have the financial means and

[3:36:40] the family support of logistical

[3:36:42] ability to make these trips and

[3:36:44] so wait times again as we

[3:36:46] all know for specialists in the

[3:36:48] state can be extraordinarily

[3:36:51] long. All of these barriers

[3:36:53] result in patients continually

[3:36:54] cycling through the emergency

[3:36:55] rooms and through hospital

[3:36:58] admissions resulting in much

[3:36:59] higher costs for not only the

[3:37:01] families but for our own

[3:37:03] healthcare authority here in New

[3:37:04] Mexico because the system just

[3:37:06] keeps recycling these folks

[3:37:07] rather than treating what is

[3:37:08] there

[3:37:11] what we know is that there is

[3:37:13] funding through medicaid

[3:37:15] available and actually the state

[3:37:17] is leaving dollars on the table

[3:37:18] by not getting full

[3:37:20] reimbursement for this

[3:37:23] procedure. we have this issue

[3:37:25] now before thelfC and have put

[3:37:28] that there we may hopefully

[3:37:29] call on Representative

[3:37:30] Lindstrom and Representative

[3:37:32] Herndon again to carry

[3:37:34] legislation just to bolster that

[3:37:37] support in thelfC so this

[3:37:38] is not simply

[3:37:40] a reimbursement discussion it

[3:37:42] really is an access issue it's a

[3:37:44] rural healthcare issue obviously

[3:37:46] and it is a tribal healthcare

[3:37:48] issue today we ask for your

[3:37:50] legislative support to get the

[3:37:52] department to cover the cost to

[3:37:54] help improve the health and

[3:37:55] quality of life for New Mexicans

[3:37:56] dealing with drug resistant

[3:37:59] epilepsy we want to regre again

[3:38:00] Representative Lenstone,

[3:38:01] Representative Herndon who've

[3:38:04] carried this legislation and are

[3:38:05] working to resolve this issue

[3:38:07] along our side and we thank you

[3:38:08] for your time

[3:38:11] thank you for coming to gallup.

[3:38:13] this is my hometown we're glad

[3:38:14] you're here and thank you for

[3:38:15] your commitment to serve New

[3:38:17] Mexicans everywhere with that

[3:38:18] madam chairir, I'll yield. thank

[3:38:22] Thank you Peterammpo

[3:38:34] Yes

[3:38:37] hey hey hey hey come on it

[3:38:39] wasn't it wasn't that bad from

[3:38:40] what I remember

[3:38:43] right madam chair members of the

[3:38:45] committee and guests first

[3:38:46] and foremost I would like to

[3:38:46] welcome you all to gallup

[3:38:50] I know this wasn't the

[3:38:52] planned meeting location but we

[3:38:54] are glad to have you here and we

[3:38:55] would welcome you guys coming

[3:38:57] back anytime for any other

[3:38:58] committees that you might have

[3:39:00] so I hope that you guys have

[3:39:01] felt warm a warm welcome here

[3:39:03] and hopefully we'll see I know I

[3:39:04] will see you guys during

[3:39:06] legislative session and

[3:39:07] hopefully before then as well.

[3:39:09] some of you I know very well

[3:39:10] and some of you I've met maybe

[3:39:12] once or twice over at the

[3:39:13] state capitol and I hope to get

[3:39:16] you to know you as well as my

[3:39:16] my mentor here Bill

[3:39:19] is so he obviously had a little

[3:39:21] bit different of an agenda than

[3:39:22] what I did. I just wanted to

[3:39:23] make sure that you guys felt

[3:39:25] welcome here there is one

[3:39:26] thing that I would like to bring

[3:39:28] to this committee it's been

[3:39:29] talked about

[3:39:31] in other places and maybe you

[3:39:32] guys can give us a legup

[3:39:35] as you know we have been

[3:39:37] flooded in this area not only in

[3:39:39] the gallup area but in McKinley

[3:39:40] County and and across the state

[3:39:41] for that matter

[3:39:43] we are going to need some

[3:39:44] help

[3:39:46] not only in gallup but in the

[3:39:47] county

[3:39:51] to get our flood systems up to

[3:39:53] speed and be able to handle

[3:39:54] capacity now yes this might be

[3:39:55] an abnormal year for storms

[3:39:59] but as you've seen on some of

[3:40:00] the video that's been taken

[3:40:00] especially up in the Mexican

[3:40:03] spprings area and and up in

[3:40:04] northern McKinley County I mean

[3:40:06] they've had entire roads that

[3:40:07] have been washed out by the

[3:40:09] floods and it's more just

[3:40:11] because we haven't had enough

[3:40:13] foresight to plan for that kind

[3:40:15] of capacity of water gallup

[3:40:18] also does suffer from that

[3:40:20] you know we have a a majority

[3:40:21] population that is native

[3:40:22] American so I feel that this

[3:40:23] committee is appropriate to

[3:40:24] address to help us at least get

[3:40:25] the

[3:40:28] conversation started on

[3:40:29] possibly upgrading our storm

[3:40:32] drainage systems most if not

[3:40:35] all of our storm drains are only

[3:40:36] partially concreted

[3:40:38] so when you go to bigger urban

[3:40:39] areas most of the storm drainage

[3:40:41] in the arroyos and like in

[3:40:42] Albuquerque and other areas

[3:40:43] they're fully concrete so they

[3:40:44] don't have erosion problems like

[3:40:45] we see here

[3:40:49] when we get runoff from the

[3:40:51] rains that happened in our area

[3:40:52] it comes right through downtown

[3:40:54] Gallup and we get everything

[3:40:55] that comes along with it the

[3:40:57] silt and the the debris and

[3:40:58] everything but the most of

[3:41:01] our arroyo system through the

[3:41:03] gallup area from the Rio Puerco

[3:41:08] is not fully concreted so we

[3:41:09] are constantly having to do

[3:41:10] maintenance on it and I say we

[3:41:11] very loosely it's the community

[3:41:14] it's the city the county they

[3:41:14] they have to constantly maintain

[3:41:15] these because

[3:41:18] we are inundated with silt

[3:41:21] debris mud and we also run into

[3:41:23] jurisdictional issues from what

[3:41:25] I've been told that where the

[3:41:27] the land is like some of the the

[3:41:29] people that have presented today

[3:41:30] the land is owned by the state

[3:41:33] the land is owned by BNSf or

[3:41:35] other entities and it's hard to

[3:41:37] acquire the proper permission to

[3:41:39] do maintenance on the storm

[3:41:40] drainage system. So I just

[3:41:42] wanted to start the conversation

[3:41:43] here I've I've talked with

[3:41:44] the the city manager about it. I

[3:41:45] haven't had the chance to talk

[3:41:45] with the

[3:41:48] county about it but I figured

[3:41:50] that we could start the the the

[3:41:51] conversation and maybe I can

[3:41:52] work with our my local

[3:41:54] legislators so that we can get

[3:41:55] this maybe get something

[3:42:00] Other than that I would again

[3:42:02] welcome here to gallup. I hope

[3:42:03] you guys enjoy your time

[3:42:04] here. I know it sounds like

[3:42:05] you're going to Aamma. I don't

[3:42:06] know if you're spending the

[3:42:07] night here but if you need any

[3:42:08] recommendations on where to eat

[3:42:10] dinner or something like that we

[3:42:11] are the visitors center for

[3:42:12] gallup. thank you guys for

[3:42:12] coming.

[3:42:17] a thank you Peter and I have

[3:42:18] joanne as

[3:42:22] left already OK Dorisinnali

[3:42:35] Good evening

[3:42:38] I should say good late evening

[3:42:43] welcome to gallup I'm here again

[3:42:44] to listen to you young ones

[3:42:48] thank you so much for coming

[3:42:49] back to gallup. You had a visit

[3:42:53] in haitichie not too long ago a

[3:42:55] lot of our comments were met in

[3:42:57] everything thank you being a

[3:42:59] young ones learning from our

[3:43:00] elders here

[3:43:03] senator

[3:43:12] senator Charlie, I'd like to

[3:43:12] commend you

[3:43:15] I come from a family of veterans

[3:43:19] during this last flooding we had

[3:43:22] down at zunni boots on the

[3:43:25] ground boots on the ground. she

[3:43:26] was there she had her canoe

[3:43:30] it made me so proud to see you

[3:43:30] young ones there

[3:43:34] question you ask thank you

[3:43:36] beautiful questions I have

[3:43:37] experience working at NCI

[3:43:41] soup kitchen

[3:43:44] I'm a devout Catholic but I

[3:43:45] still sin

[3:43:51] I retired from the BIA thirty5

[3:43:52] years of service at the federal

[3:43:52] building

[3:43:56] I'd like to help at the homeless

[3:43:59] shelter and a soup kitchen here

[3:44:01] in gallup. I invited the

[3:44:03] governor on a few occasions to

[3:44:04] come and join me

[3:44:08] my concern at the soup kitchen

[3:44:09] with theha health in the city of

[3:44:11] Gallup and the mayor who gave

[3:44:12] the report

[3:44:14] I did not hear one

[3:44:19] make a comment. I come from a

[3:44:20] family of veterans how they

[3:44:22] helping our veterans how they're

[3:44:25] meeting the veterans75% of the

[3:44:27] clients there are veterans young

[3:44:28] veterans

[3:44:32] and it's sad it's very sad

[3:44:32] they're being ignored

[3:44:35] I come from a family

[3:44:36] of native

[3:44:37] artists

[3:44:43] I want you to take a visit next

[3:44:47] door all of you go walk down the

[3:44:48] streets except Richardson's pond

[3:44:52] you can't pond there but anyway

[3:44:52] keep going

[3:44:58] 75 % of our jewelry outlet here

[3:44:58] in Gallup

[3:45:02] are not owned by native

[3:45:02] Americans

[3:45:06] they're owned by our visitors

[3:45:09] the Arab nation

[3:45:14] a lot of their jewelry you see

[3:45:16] underneath his maiden chi made

[3:45:17] in Korea.

[3:45:19] you want to see the one I'm

[3:45:20] wearing

[3:45:23] it's cheap but you know it still

[3:45:24] works

[3:45:29] I challenge you I challenge you

[3:45:31] to we talk about alcohol tax

[3:45:37] Starting from the east of Gallup

[3:45:39] drive all the way down count the

[3:45:42] dispensaries liquor stores to

[3:45:44] the west side go to the north

[3:45:46] go to the south

[3:45:52] count every one of them please

[3:45:55] alcohol outlets and dispensary

[3:45:56] shops.

[3:46:01] All days dispensary shops here

[3:46:03] in gallup all these alcohol

[3:46:08] the new dispensary shops you see

[3:46:09] in Gallllup are now used to be

[3:46:11] liquor establishments

[3:46:18] That

[3:46:24] information they gave Mrchapatti

[3:46:29] gave here it had75% of

[3:46:30] Navajo's

[3:46:32] here in Gallup who have an

[3:46:32] addiction

[3:46:38] and I've always argued where is

[3:46:40] our alcohol tax co?

[3:46:44] my question today is and I

[3:46:48] invite you to ask this where is

[3:46:49] the dispensary tax going

[3:46:57] Please do that we need to they

[3:46:59] talk about us andnavajos when it

[3:47:00] comes to

[3:47:03] alcoholiclici

[3:47:07] anyway my relatives I call him

[3:47:09] I'm glad to hearpresentative

[3:47:11] Abeta called them our relatives

[3:47:14] it is true we'renavajos

[3:47:16] everybody's related to us they

[3:47:18] are our relatives and when I go

[3:47:18] at the

[3:47:22] homeless in the soup kitchen

[3:47:23] here in Gallup

[3:47:26] I called them in my native

[3:47:29] tongue my brother my sister my

[3:47:32] uncle my grandpa my parents she

[3:47:32] ya sele

[3:47:34] shouldnna

[3:47:37] and their veterans I greet them

[3:47:39] in that way and it feels good

[3:47:42] when I go there because my own

[3:47:43] grandchildren don't call me

[3:47:44] grandma.

[3:47:47] these clients call me from my

[3:47:51] son and I feel wanted needed

[3:47:53] well that's a joke but anyway

[3:47:56] that's all they want to say to

[3:47:58] all of you to please the good

[3:47:59] question to ask about

[3:48:02] NCI to them

[3:48:04] percentage

[3:48:07] discrimination, keep those

[3:48:10] questions coming please keep

[3:48:11] them coming to gallup. Gallup

[3:48:12] needs to hear this

[3:48:17] so that's all I have am I up for

[3:48:18] five minutes or can I go more?

[3:48:18] Yeah

[3:48:22] thank you thank you know you'll

[3:48:22] visit me

[3:48:24] Lary Foster

[3:48:34] good afternoon

[3:48:35] the

[3:48:39] committee here coming from

[3:48:40] different parts of New Mexico

[3:48:44] and I wanted to say a few

[3:48:45] things here some of this was

[3:48:48] stated this morning in the

[3:48:49] presentation by the city of

[3:48:50] Gallup

[3:48:53] their officials a mayor and

[3:48:54] the the city manager

[3:48:56] and the

[3:48:58] mental health department

[3:49:01] of course yeah

[3:49:04] ard ge ant Linibe hadti think so

[3:49:07] my name is Larry Foster

[3:49:10] and my wife is over here maddie

[3:49:14] I'm from the townhouse rockck

[3:49:15] people lankyon in

[3:49:18] adolani manco people

[3:49:22] on the second son of a Navajo

[3:49:22] coat talker

[3:49:26] Here they used to have the code

[3:49:27] talker meetings monthly in here

[3:49:28] in this building

[3:49:29] so

[3:49:34] the perspective of the city

[3:49:36] presentation this mornings

[3:49:36] from their administrative

[3:49:39] some of the data is kind of

[3:49:40] shortcoming

[3:49:42] they might have been using the

[3:49:44] old data or or some missing data

[3:49:50] but it's very well taken but my

[3:49:51] perspective right now is from

[3:49:52] the human rights

[3:49:56] and the civil rights of our the

[3:49:57] indigenous people

[3:50:02] nor cotten nepain that's what

[3:50:04] we're called but the state in

[3:50:05] New Mexico calls usnavajos

[3:50:11] sookota so during their

[3:50:13] rainstorms that we had recently

[3:50:16] we saw a lot of things that

[3:50:18] happened here in Gallup. I think

[3:50:20] that made the city of Gallup

[3:50:22] depressed particularly people

[3:50:22] that live on the north side

[3:50:26] up on 9th Street in Maloney

[3:50:28] the people that lived there they

[3:50:28] were angry

[3:50:32] and then of course they

[3:50:34] were confused about the politics

[3:50:35] of Gallup

[3:50:37] who is in the leadership

[3:50:42] and then of course there

[3:50:42] was a lot of stress

[3:50:43] so

[3:50:47] from that I I gathered there was

[3:50:49] a lot of jealousy among the

[3:50:51] leaders. Most recently we had a

[3:50:53] changeover of the mayor

[3:50:56] so what you're seeing here that

[3:50:57] presented this morning that

[3:50:58] that's a new mayor

[3:51:01] he's involved it's mainly

[3:51:02] administrative

[3:51:06] but I think he's kind of weak

[3:51:06] on human rights, civil rights

[3:51:10] so that's

[3:51:15] directed to the chapters the

[3:51:18] sovereignty issue consolidation

[3:51:25] actct of19781988199 or 208 they

[3:51:28] need to utilize that act over

[3:51:28] here in uhnavajo land

[3:51:33] particularly uhRock Springs,

[3:51:34] Mangnito

[3:51:37] ra cheatuo

[3:51:41] they're gonna build some things

[3:51:43] over here pretty quick and I

[3:51:44] think a lot of the community is

[3:51:47] not well informed on that

[3:51:48] particularly chapters

[3:51:51] so that I don't know why they're

[3:51:52] holding back

[3:51:54] so they shouldn't do that with

[3:51:56] these laws that are in the state

[3:51:57] of New Mexico that are

[3:51:58] implemented 20 years ago

[3:52:03] so along with the increase of

[3:52:05] liquor what was mentioned at

[3:52:06] Speedway

[3:52:10] and then the the the marijuana

[3:52:10] outlets

[3:52:14] that causes a lot of a child

[3:52:14] abandonment what I've seen

[3:52:18] and then they they did

[3:52:18] mention any street birth

[3:52:22] or unsheltered native veterans

[3:52:28] those were the data what they

[3:52:29] had that's what I mean

[3:52:30] misinformation of data

[3:52:34] go over here to westgallllup

[3:52:35] there's a lot of abandoned

[3:52:36] buildings there's graffiti,

[3:52:38] there's potholes our relatives

[3:52:40] are living under the bridges

[3:52:42] Interstate40 tent cities

[3:52:46] and yet deborah Martinez

[3:52:46] mentioned that

[3:52:48] I think that

[3:52:51] my wife and I we go out

[3:52:54] the flea market under the

[3:52:56] culverts yeah they're dangerous

[3:52:57] people are high on fentanyl

[3:53:02] but we try to talk to them we

[3:53:03] try to start a a talking circle

[3:53:07] we went down to the burrito

[3:53:10] project outlet and we weren't

[3:53:11] very welcome because we're

[3:53:12] talking Navajo

[3:53:16] to start talking circle talking

[3:53:17] about the problems in Navajo

[3:53:18] so we let it go

[3:53:23] so I think my recommendation is

[3:53:24] here

[3:53:28] with all these problems that

[3:53:29] one thing I want to mention

[3:53:30] about McKinley County school

[3:53:33] system I think we really need

[3:53:34] to get involved with the

[3:53:34] yasemartinez

[3:53:36] case

[3:53:40] The judge said that a couple of

[3:53:43] months ago the federal funding

[3:53:44] the federal impact aid

[3:53:48] we need to review that a little

[3:53:49] bit more work with the Navajo

[3:53:50] Nation Department of Education

[3:53:51] NDOJ

[3:53:55] that involves it Johnson

[3:53:56] O'malley funds Title 06 and7.

[3:54:01] we don't want to misuse that and

[3:54:02] let it sit somewhere

[3:54:06] that's happening now the lawsuit

[3:54:06] that might come out of that

[3:54:11] so in closing I want to say that

[3:54:13] to improve some of this quality

[3:54:16] of life, my recommendation is

[3:54:18] we need to get a grant rider

[3:54:18] over there at the mayor's office

[3:54:20] let's help the mayor

[3:54:21] see your manager

[3:54:27] and get an indigenous task force

[3:54:29] in order. There's people like

[3:54:30] myself that

[3:54:33] I wanted to to help the city of

[3:54:34] Gallup

[3:54:36] I've been here for my wife and I

[3:54:37] over30 years

[3:54:41] and then to review some of the

[3:54:42] contracts

[3:54:44] I don't know who takes care of

[3:54:45] the contracts over there it

[3:54:46] sounds like it's just one person

[3:54:51] so this is all about the

[3:54:54] public health human rights civil

[3:54:55] rights

[3:54:56] so

[3:55:00] I mentioned to the city manager

[3:55:02] we need to develop MOs with

[3:55:03] others M will you try to

[3:55:04] understand

[3:55:06] thenavajo

[3:55:09] nation and their departments

[3:55:10] health

[3:55:14] mental health how the DOJ

[3:55:14] works over there

[3:55:18] likewise with the surrounding

[3:55:19] tribes Aama and Naguna

[3:55:22] were all part of this area

[3:55:26] this circle so thank you for

[3:55:26] your time

[3:55:31] maddie Foster did you want to

[3:55:50] Colin you're presenting later

[3:55:51] what did you want to do public

[3:55:52] comment or are you

[3:55:56] good

[3:56:18] Actually I signed up I thought

[3:56:20] it was sign in sheet but

[3:56:22] actually I guess I got called

[3:56:26] out called in called up here but

[3:56:27] anyway

[3:56:30] my name is maddie Foster and my

[3:56:32] client is with ondo to by the

[3:56:34] machine touchy nationalinando

[3:56:36] shin the shi cheong a

[3:56:37] a

[3:56:43] I'm a lady here and my husband

[3:56:45] he's said th30 years actually

[3:56:46] it's50 years

[3:56:48] so

[3:56:50] we've beenga was a girlup we

[3:56:52] live and he was a galla with our

[3:56:54] children and our grandchildren

[3:56:56] and they all go to school at

[3:56:58] Gallup McKinney County School.

[3:56:58] so

[3:57:04] I guess what my complaint would

[3:57:05] be

[3:57:10] I lived in Galla for most of my

[3:57:12] years and I see what's going on

[3:57:13] and

[3:57:18] it's heartbreaking as a mother

[3:57:22] as a ali and and thennavajo lady

[3:57:26] that you see a relatives on

[3:57:26] the streets

[3:57:31] they all need help

[3:57:34] I seen a little girl she was

[3:57:37] about 9 or10 years old on the

[3:57:39] street and I thought what is she

[3:57:40] doing here? Where's her parents

[3:57:44] and there she went

[3:57:48] following this one person older

[3:57:49] man

[3:57:56] and he does heartbreaking so us

[3:57:59] ladies as woman native women we

[3:58:00] need to do a lot of

[3:58:01] work

[3:58:07] like they're saying outreach my

[3:58:09] husband and I are both retired

[3:58:11] our work atingate High School

[3:58:13] for48 years and eight months

[3:58:14] with the students and

[3:58:19] my husband worked at PhS forth38

[3:58:21] years so we're both retired and

[3:58:24] we do a lot of volunteer work

[3:58:27] no right now we don't get paid

[3:58:29] we just go out there who needs

[3:58:31] help or maybe one of the

[3:58:34] projects needs help or somebody

[3:58:35] that needs food

[3:58:39] so this takes most of our time

[3:58:40] and whoever

[3:58:42] we go

[3:58:48] we just offer our help

[3:58:53] on the west side too there's a

[3:58:54] lot of graffiti and

[3:58:58] like my husband said there's a

[3:59:00] lot of buildings or boarded up

[3:59:04] need to bring more business or

[3:59:05] clean it up

[3:59:06] and

[3:59:11] even at Gallllup High School we

[3:59:13] mention it to the superintendent

[3:59:16] that left at the pavement

[3:59:16] needs to be paved

[3:59:18] and

[3:59:23] the other day I think one of

[3:59:26] they got excused early because

[3:59:28] the air conditioner or something

[3:59:31] that wasn't working so we gallup

[3:59:33] high needs a new school

[3:59:36] buildingallllup High School and

[3:59:41] we need a lot of parents

[3:59:44] involvement that's what we're

[3:59:44] lacking too

[3:59:48] thats we try to represent a lot

[3:59:50] of native students atallllup

[3:59:51] high school where they mean

[3:59:52] being mistreated

[3:59:56] and we go to to go to the school

[3:59:58] board meeting and try to voice

[4:00:01] our opinion but they always call

[4:00:03] the security saying there comes

[4:00:06] a fosters better call the

[4:00:06] security so

[4:00:11] ashley we're trying to help help

[4:00:14] the students or represent them

[4:00:17] and also the JOM money too is to

[4:00:21] sit in atonderrock and where we

[4:00:24] used to sponsored nativist

[4:00:26] culture at Gallllup High

[4:00:27] School

[4:00:29] and at tourpin

[4:00:32] that that's not happening

[4:00:38] so when you are jail and money

[4:00:41] back to the school and we talked

[4:00:42] with Bo Nagrin

[4:00:42] that

[4:00:47] this is how our native students

[4:00:50] are getting treated amongcinney

[4:00:51] County School. he was going to

[4:00:54] set up our office here and all

[4:00:57] our native unsheltered

[4:01:00] relatives to on the streets I'll

[4:01:00] work with them it never happened

[4:01:04] so when he was campaigning again

[4:01:06] at the flea market approached

[4:01:10] him. where's the office for you

[4:01:11] promised us when you were

[4:01:14] campaigning I'll work on it. No

[4:01:14] your term is over

[4:01:20] so we approached the new

[4:01:22] administration Justin Jones and

[4:01:24] he said he's gonna work on it

[4:01:27] with the gallupmcckinley County

[4:01:28] School

[4:01:30] why our natives are getting

[4:01:30] discriminated

[4:01:32] and

[4:01:37] with the native unsheltered

[4:01:40] relatives too we need we need

[4:01:40] help we told him

[4:01:43] so this and his campaign

[4:01:47] hopefully he pays a lot of

[4:01:50] attention to what everybody is

[4:01:53] asking him to do for his new

[4:01:56] administration so that's all I

[4:01:57] have to offer thank you

[4:02:00] you haveella Wilson

[4:02:07] president would you like to come

[4:02:08] up

[4:02:27] Good afternoon

[4:02:31] the audition and I madam

[4:02:32] chairir

[4:02:35] in an affairs committee each and

[4:02:36] every one of you legislators

[4:02:39] representatives senators I

[4:02:41] appreciate your time you're

[4:02:42] spending here in Gallup. My name

[4:02:44] is Elvispazzilli. I am

[4:02:45] currently the tragic chapter

[4:02:48] president. This is my first term

[4:02:50] as the president for our chapter

[4:02:50] and

[4:02:54] I'm here today not I wasn't

[4:02:57] expecting to make a report or

[4:02:58] just give you an update on what

[4:02:59] we're doing but I don't mind you

[4:02:59] know it's not a

[4:03:02] not a biggie for me because I

[4:03:04] present it to you before you

[4:03:06] were in in Tohatchie

[4:03:09] earlier this year last late last

[4:03:11] year so madam chair again the

[4:03:13] committee I appreciate the time

[4:03:14] that we have here this morning

[4:03:16] and this afternoon. I wanted

[4:03:18] just to update you real briefly

[4:03:20] on what we're doing as a chapter

[4:03:23] I inherited I would say 20

[4:03:26] to30 depending ongoing projects

[4:03:28] coming from the previous

[4:03:28] leadership

[4:03:32] and that is going forward for

[4:03:35] our chapter and we've added

[4:03:38] probably 20 more projects to our

[4:03:40] chapter and pending and you know

[4:03:41] we're

[4:03:44] we're prioritizing what we have

[4:03:47] meaning our our ICIP

[4:03:49] infrastructure capital

[4:03:51] improvement plan we have our top

[4:03:52] priority listing for that that's

[4:03:55] been ongoing for for several

[4:03:57] years I just wanted update

[4:03:59] you on that real briefly our

[4:04:01] priority projects for Tahachi is

[4:04:02] our first responders safety

[4:04:04] complex Our second one is our

[4:04:07] warehouses our chapter warehouse

[4:04:08] our third is our highway491

[4:04:08] lighting

[4:04:12] we are fortunate and blessed

[4:04:15] to have been awarded50,000 from

[4:04:18] our our senator and

[4:04:20] representatives for this year

[4:04:22] for our safety complex and that

[4:04:25] money will be expended we

[4:04:29] were we'd been expending I'd

[4:04:31] say close to4 million over the

[4:04:33] past three or four years so far

[4:04:35] from capital outlay funding for

[4:04:38] our cap safety complex so we

[4:04:38] are looking for for more money

[4:04:39] we've

[4:04:43] applied again for our TI funds

[4:04:44] we're again we're gonna we're

[4:04:47] we have applied and we are going

[4:04:49] to apply again just a brief

[4:04:50] update on that on our priority

[4:04:52] projects and like I said we do

[4:04:54] have several other projects that

[4:04:57] are ongoing for our chapter and

[4:04:58] there is a lot of work there is

[4:05:00] a lot of work we're working

[4:05:02] diligently with our naval Nation

[4:05:04] community development department

[4:05:06] we're working with the state of

[4:05:08] New Mexico we're working with

[4:05:08] other entities locally

[4:05:14] in the county in regards

[4:05:15] to other added projects that are

[4:05:16] new this year for us we have our

[4:05:19] red willow farm solar project

[4:05:21] we've added that to our ICIP

[4:05:23] listing as you all are aware

[4:05:26] I I have a late mom that was

[4:05:28] our red willow farm

[4:05:30] president for for many many

[4:05:32] years and because of that we've

[4:05:35] we've continued to her success

[4:05:36] with that and we've continued

[4:05:38] the the dreams and and work that

[4:05:38] she wanted so we've added

[4:05:42] that to our our capital outlay

[4:05:44] priority list for re willow

[4:05:45] as a matter of fact that's where

[4:05:46] I was just coming from this

[4:05:49] morning we we got a lot of water

[4:05:51] at our farm and we cannot get

[4:05:53] into our farm because of because

[4:05:54] of the floods and the and the

[4:05:56] muddy roads and the access to

[4:05:57] our farm but we were able to get

[4:05:59] in because the past few days we

[4:06:01] had some a little bit warmer

[4:06:03] weather so we could get into the

[4:06:07] the the farm today again

[4:06:08] ourabul outlay projects or tip

[4:06:09] projects that we've appli

[4:06:12] ed for I just wanted to mention

[4:06:15] that we also got money for our

[4:06:17] our first responder safety

[4:06:19] complex of4 million dollars from

[4:06:22] Tiff that was also added to that

[4:06:24] so so that was a success there.

[4:06:27] I wanted to congratulate and

[4:06:29] commend the legislators and

[4:06:30] all of you that are involved in

[4:06:33] that success and he haii we

[4:06:34] appreciate that we want to

[4:06:37] continue with lobbying and

[4:06:38] advocating with you all to help

[4:06:38] us with that so we can continue

[4:06:39] building

[4:06:42] this very important safety

[4:06:44] complex it's very much needed

[4:06:47] for our chapter. Highway491 is a

[4:06:49] very dangerous highway. it's a

[4:06:51] very busy highway and we are

[4:06:54] serving also district14 chapters

[4:06:56] which is5 chapters in in the

[4:06:58] local area so that's very

[4:07:01] important I hope and I I I

[4:07:03] pray that we will be

[4:07:05] successful again in applying for

[4:07:07] more funding for for our

[4:07:08] safety complex building we

[4:07:09] will be

[4:07:12] applying again this year or

[4:07:13] actually next year for for that

[4:07:15] funding area so we appreciate

[4:07:17] that so much for that so also

[4:07:19] want to congratulate another

[4:07:21] project on we were talking about

[4:07:23] it earlier theelville Gallup

[4:07:25] water supply the the the project

[4:07:27] there we're we're working

[4:07:30] with a shortfall dollars of3.5

[4:07:32] million dollars with Mexican

[4:07:34] spprings chapter we were

[4:07:36] successful with they were

[4:07:37] successful actually cause

[4:07:38] Mexican sppring applied for tI

[4:07:39] money and they were

[4:07:42] successful in landing4 million

[4:07:44] dollars of the3.5 that was

[4:07:46] shortfall so they were we were

[4:07:48] awarded as a as a combined

[4:07:50] project to get this project done

[4:07:53] so it's it's ongoing now we're

[4:07:55] blessed that we had that money

[4:07:57] approved for us now it's it's

[4:07:59] up to the contractors to move

[4:08:01] those dollars forward so we can

[4:08:02] get that done that's a part of

[4:08:06] the whole project

[4:08:07] funding that that that this is

[4:08:08] needed so we can serve our to

[4:08:09] hachi Mexican spprings

[4:08:12] area and that's going to happen

[4:08:13] that is going to happen and

[4:08:14] there's the plan and design is

[4:08:16] already complete it's done and

[4:08:18] we're ready to go this money

[4:08:19] that we got is for construction

[4:08:21] so we'd be moving on that as

[4:08:23] soon as possible. Saer Miller is

[4:08:25] the contractor subcontractor

[4:08:26] that we're working with

[4:08:27] Navoation so they're helping us

[4:08:29] with that and working along with

[4:08:32] that project for us so we're

[4:08:34] we're ongoing with that is is as

[4:08:36] as we move forward for serving

[4:08:38] our communitiesal deen is also

[4:08:38] on that listing for for funding

[4:08:39] as well

[4:08:43] and that lateral project as well

[4:08:44] as other other communities that

[4:08:46] are east of Gallup in that

[4:08:48] eastern agency area so we're

[4:08:50] working diligently with everyone

[4:08:52] out there so you know we've been

[4:08:54] successful so far with

[4:08:56] funding this project for our

[4:08:57] community so thank you very much

[4:08:59] to legislators for all of that

[4:09:01] and what you do and I just kind

[4:09:02] of put together some notes that

[4:09:05] I have I'd like to ask the

[4:09:06] legislators if you could help us

[4:09:08] possibly with the warehouse

[4:09:08] funding for our chapter we're

[4:09:09] 85,000

[4:09:12] 0 shortfall highway light we

[4:09:14] have3.5 million dollars that

[4:09:15] we're working with now theation

[4:09:17] Department of Transportation so

[4:09:19] we have some matching funding

[4:09:22] monies there so we probably will

[4:09:23] be able to have at least a

[4:09:24] million dollars because the

[4:09:26] navigation department of

[4:09:28] transportation has awarded

[4:09:31] through the naviation council

[4:09:33] monies for each of the agencies

[4:09:35] and legnaval Nation co agency

[4:09:38] areas districts for Monday and

[4:09:38] there so we'll we'll be glad to

[4:09:39] have that

[4:09:42] as a part of our contribution

[4:09:44] towards that and again this is

[4:09:44] something that we're doing and

[4:09:47] I'm just kind of going on as

[4:09:49] best as I can and do do what I

[4:09:50] need to do with what we were

[4:09:50] doing inuahachie

[4:09:53] I want to also thank theal

[4:09:55] McKinney County schools for the

[4:09:57] new high school the new high

[4:09:58] school that we now have so as

[4:10:00] you can see we're moving forward

[4:10:01] with a lot of projects that are

[4:10:03] going on in Tohatchie and we

[4:10:05] want to thank them for all

[4:10:06] the work they've done over the

[4:10:08] many many years we just had our

[4:10:10] groundbreaking in schools in

[4:10:11] session now all the kids are

[4:10:13] enjoying their new school now

[4:10:15] and of course they cannot wait

[4:10:16] for basketball season. we have a

[4:10:19] new basketball gymnasium that

[4:10:20] we're gonna be occupying and

[4:10:20] we're gonna be cheering on

[4:10:23] you know our opponents and

[4:10:24] everyone else there when they

[4:10:26] come to Johatchi, home of the

[4:10:28] cougars and we're gonna be

[4:10:29] we're gonna be yelling out we

[4:10:31] got spirit how about you? you

[4:10:33] know that's gonna happen right

[4:10:36] on so again we appreciate that

[4:10:38] other things that are going

[4:10:40] on that's sad to say again

[4:10:42] ourtahaji seniorenter has been

[4:10:44] closed for the last couple of

[4:10:46] weeks or so3 weeks because of

[4:10:48] our hy their hibc system their

[4:10:50] highback system has is not

[4:10:50] functioning and it's not just to

[4:10:53] haji it's a majority of naval

[4:10:55] nation where we're having that

[4:10:56] issue the expending the

[4:10:58] expanding the expenditure

[4:10:59] process of getting these money

[4:11:01] spent is a problem with our

[4:11:03] navajo nation and that's been a

[4:11:05] long long ongoing process so the

[4:11:07] senior senator is dealing with

[4:11:08] that we as officials are

[4:11:10] supporting them they under they

[4:11:12] are under doltech with Navo

[4:11:14] Nation so we are supporting

[4:11:16] their effort to get this done. I

[4:11:17] just found out a week ago that

[4:11:19] is the high ec system works at

[4:11:20] the senior center it's just some

[4:11:21] d

[4:11:23] uck wood I need some upgrades

[4:11:25] that's why there's no there's no

[4:11:27] functioning air flow through the

[4:11:28] through the building itself so

[4:11:30] we're working again with

[4:11:31] something there so we need

[4:11:32] something to do with that

[4:11:34] system. these systems and these

[4:11:36] senior center centers have been

[4:11:38] outdated for so many years so

[4:11:40] if you have senior centers in on

[4:11:43] on in your area as legislators

[4:11:44] you need to look more closely at

[4:11:46] what's going on with their

[4:11:48] facility it's a bad situation

[4:11:49] because they're very full

[4:11:50] they're much outdated

[4:11:50] infrastructure

[4:11:53] so anyway that's something that

[4:11:55] we're dealing with now and

[4:11:56] and we're we're soon to have

[4:11:59] that open and guarantee that so

[4:12:01] the other the other commanding

[4:12:02] commanding information or

[4:12:03] comment I want to make is the

[4:12:07] MexicodlT thank you for your new

[4:12:08] paving that you're doing now

[4:12:09] through our community of

[4:12:11] Tehatchie M marker16 through

[4:12:14] mile marker 25 we lobbied for

[4:12:16] that advocated for that here

[4:12:19] about a month ago or so with DOT

[4:12:20] we asked Trujillo and we

[4:12:20] asked Lis

[4:12:23] a Vega why are you guys not

[4:12:25] still why you guys are notpa

[4:12:26] that north lane, the double

[4:12:28] lanes and a couple weeks three

[4:12:30] weeks later they got on it. so

[4:12:31] thank you for those guys there

[4:12:34] was money for it thanks to

[4:12:35] our other local leadership that

[4:12:37] followed us through that we

[4:12:39] did meet withrujillo in Santa Fe

[4:12:41] and on teleconference call and

[4:12:43] we we got a blessing after that

[4:12:44] and thank you for that we really

[4:12:47] need that highway repaved and

[4:12:48] it's happening now so that

[4:12:49] should be completed I think

[4:12:50] probably the end of this week or

[4:12:50] within the next several

[4:12:54] days. Again there's so much

[4:12:55] blessed thank you for that we

[4:12:58] have now again I hope the

[4:13:00] speeders don't speed too much

[4:13:01] more but we don't we don't want

[4:13:02] that you know we'd like to

[4:13:05] control that so that may be

[4:13:06] another issue. Again there's

[4:13:07] another part that I want to

[4:13:09] mention that wement as a chapter

[4:13:12] advocating with other leadership

[4:13:13] before was the Edward O Plumber

[4:13:18] interchange 264 and highway491.

[4:13:20] We need those lights back on. We

[4:13:20] need those lights back on. We

[4:13:24] ' ve complained about that. why

[4:13:25] they have not get to that we've

[4:13:26] talked to the county manager

[4:13:28] about this they've been

[4:13:29] pointing fingers at each other

[4:13:32] in the Mexico DlT counties

[4:13:35] responsible and so forth so

[4:13:37] that's a very big danger zone

[4:13:39] guarantee you that because I go

[4:13:40] through that day and night and

[4:13:42] it's a problem so we need to get

[4:13:45] that fixed leadership so

[4:13:47] with that I have don't I

[4:13:49] don't have any other much more

[4:13:50] else to say but last but not

[4:13:50] least

[4:13:54] our school beacon flashing

[4:13:56] lights in Tohachi at our main

[4:13:58] school exit to our high school

[4:14:00] in our elementary school we need

[4:14:02] those bea and flash of lights

[4:14:04] install we've complained to the

[4:14:06] county for the past year or so

[4:14:08] it has not been done. Anthony

[4:14:11] demis, if you're listening, I

[4:14:14] hope you can hear us so we we

[4:14:16] need your help. The school is

[4:14:18] not responsible for it. they

[4:14:20] pointed to the county they

[4:14:20] pointed to MexicodlT

[4:14:23] everyone just does not want

[4:14:25] to put their hand on it even

[4:14:27] nowvonation DlT but leadership I

[4:14:29] hope we can get some word from

[4:14:30] you to get some somebody going

[4:14:32] we need that done it's very

[4:14:34] important we need that done a

[4:14:36] lot of semi trucks go through

[4:14:38] our areas daily it's a very

[4:14:41] danger zone. we need your help

[4:14:42] we need your help with that. So

[4:14:44] leadership, thank you very much

[4:14:46] for your time and again there's

[4:14:48] other projects that are ongoing

[4:14:50] now with us in our community

[4:14:50] rule dressing has been

[4:14:53] completed that's been ongoing

[4:14:55] for many years we have our rule

[4:14:57] of addressing project done thank

[4:14:59] you to ARPA funds from the

[4:15:00] federal government funds that we

[4:15:01] got we still need to finish that

[4:15:03] it's been done we just need

[4:15:05] volunteers I have how many of

[4:15:08] you here12,20,1f of you we need

[4:15:10] help installing our signs and

[4:15:12] our street signs they're done

[4:15:13] they're ready to go we just

[4:15:14] need to we just needed to get

[4:15:16] some cooler weather and that's

[4:15:17] happened but we're getting rain

[4:15:19] so we can't get out there to do

[4:15:20] that right now but we will move

[4:15:21] forward on that so

[4:15:24] thank you very much and I

[4:15:25] appreciate your time. thank you

[4:15:27] madam chairir committee thank

[4:15:30] you for coming to what is it

[4:15:32] gallup is did I hear Indian

[4:15:33] capital of the world some time

[4:15:34] ago

[4:15:36] I don't know how true that is

[4:15:38] but I just want to say tohachi

[4:15:40] is where I'm from welcome to

[4:15:41] Tahachi home of the cougars

[4:15:42] thank you very much

[4:15:42] appreciateciate it

[4:15:48] ok we will move to item number4

[4:15:49] with committee members

[4:15:56] And I did see chance came in

[4:15:56] hello come on that

[4:16:00] and you have someone with you or

[4:16:00] is it just you?

[4:16:03] they can join you just as long

[4:16:05] as they introduce themselves.

[4:16:07] Oh neararley

[4:16:10] excellent we feel I wonder if

[4:16:11] he's nervous sit up

[4:16:18] So is he overseeing you are you

[4:16:22] overseeing him? I'm just kidding

[4:16:25] do we have an extra

[4:16:32] don't have don't have anything

[4:16:37] don't have any anything I'll

[4:16:38] check my email but I didn't this

[4:16:38] morning

[4:16:53] we were at a different location

[4:16:54] and this was one of our

[4:16:58] I think they're gonna so we'll

[4:17:00] take a five minute break here

[4:17:01] before we convene no it's ok

[4:17:04] if it helps you move through the

[4:17:05] rep representation that'll help

[4:17:06] us

[4:17:09] so we don't have so many

[4:17:10] questions if we can read

[4:17:20] or if he can just get a laptop

[4:17:21] to him

[4:17:23] Nnicole if he can just get a

[4:17:25] laptop oh he has his laptop you

[4:17:26] can't read off your

[4:17:27] yeah

[4:17:31] ok give them the internet it's

[4:17:33] internet password

[4:24:24] members that you may begin

[4:24:33] Testing madam chair and members

[4:24:34] of the committee we just thank

[4:24:36] you for inviting us up here to

[4:24:39] talk with you guys about modular

[4:24:41] housing. I'm Chance Mitchell. my

[4:24:43] dad here is Jim Mitchell and

[4:24:44] over the last three or four

[4:24:48] years we've spent our lives

[4:24:51] sort of renovating a420,000

[4:24:53] square foot bus plant that we've

[4:24:55] now converted into a modular

[4:24:57] homeme factory providing

[4:24:58] homes for areas all across

[4:24:58] the state and

[4:25:02] so my my goal the reason that we

[4:25:06] came up here is I I would just

[4:25:08] like to communicate what a good

[4:25:09] and what a permanent solution

[4:25:12] that modular housing can be for

[4:25:13] rural and tribal communities.

[4:25:19] So little presentation overview

[4:25:21] so originally we'd have a set

[4:25:23] video just a video of us

[4:25:24] actually setting the homes but

[4:25:26] I think I'm having some

[4:25:28] technical difficulties so we'll

[4:25:30] we'll have to do without that

[4:25:32] but I'm going to talk about

[4:25:35] modular housing from a general

[4:25:37] point of view. First, what are

[4:25:39] the benefits? what is it and

[4:25:40] after that I'm going to talk

[4:25:42] about fortified our company and

[4:25:44] sort of how we stand out how we

[4:25:45] can just help

[4:25:47] communities around New Mexico.

[4:25:50] that video

[4:25:54] I did include this picture

[4:25:56] though so this is a project

[4:25:56] that we have

[4:26:01] just completed in Redriver

[4:26:03] this summer. it from the time we

[4:26:04] went under contract with the

[4:26:06] town of Red River to the time we

[4:26:07] actually got the homes on the

[4:26:10] ground was 2 months so and I

[4:26:11] think that's pretty unheard of

[4:26:13] when you're working with

[4:26:14] local governments and whatnot

[4:26:16] but I think it is a testament

[4:26:20] to the the speed of our building

[4:26:23] processes so yes the the

[4:26:24] community up there is using

[4:26:26] these town homemes for workforce

[4:26:26] housing

[4:26:29] why modular

[4:26:31] so

[4:26:33] let's just talk about the

[4:26:36] quality of modular first so we

[4:26:38] build everything in an enclosed

[4:26:41] environment that in itself we

[4:26:42] have a roof over our heads while

[4:26:44] while we build our homes so we

[4:26:46] are not dealing with weather

[4:26:48] delays or weather damage to our

[4:26:51] materials we're not dealing with

[4:26:54] any theft or any of the

[4:26:56] issues that would come with just

[4:26:58] the elements. I mean if you

[4:26:59] think that you can get your cut

[4:27:00] your angle as pre

[4:27:02] ci se as I can when I'm cutting

[4:27:04] in a building and you're out

[4:27:05] there in the rain and the mud

[4:27:06] and the wind. I'll take you up

[4:27:08] on that challenge all day long.

[4:27:11] streamlined processes we we

[4:27:12] build everything ination we have

[4:27:14] our materials right there we're

[4:27:15] not running to Home Depot 20

[4:27:18] times a day like a normal site

[4:27:18] builder would

[4:27:22] and we're able to build a lot

[4:27:23] faster because of our

[4:27:25] streamlined processes and a lot

[4:27:28] better our people do the same

[4:27:29] thing every day in the same

[4:27:31] place. The the quality becomes

[4:27:32] very good

[4:27:36] engineered for durability. so

[4:27:37] one of the differences between

[4:27:40] modular and like a manufactured

[4:27:43] or a mobile home is we build to

[4:27:45] the IRc the International

[4:27:47] residential code it's the same

[4:27:48] code that a regular site builder

[4:27:49] would build to

[4:27:53] whereas a mobile manufactured

[4:27:55] home they build to theU code

[4:27:58] which think section 8 housing

[4:28:01] it's a code created for just

[4:28:03] purely affordable you know this

[4:28:05] is these are homes that have a

[4:28:06] shelf life they deteriorate

[4:28:08] eventually you're gonna have to

[4:28:09] replace it. there's a place for

[4:28:10] it in the market but it's not a

[4:28:11] permanent solution

[4:28:15] these are engineered at

[4:28:16] the same code that a site

[4:28:18] builder would use except we

[4:28:20] actually overengineer them

[4:28:20] because we do put them on a

[4:28:22] truck, lift them up with a crane

[4:28:24] and so they they are very very

[4:28:24] sturdy homes

[4:28:29] faster build timeline I sort

[4:28:30] of talked about that with the

[4:28:34] streamlined processes I guess

[4:28:34] but

[4:28:39] right now in our factory we

[4:28:41] complete a home in 22 business

[4:28:44] days so very quick build

[4:28:46] timeline in the factory during

[4:28:47] those 22 business days we're out

[4:28:48] there on site doing the

[4:28:51] foundation and so the

[4:28:52] foundation's ready when the home

[4:28:54] comes out. you got about four

[4:28:55] weeks of stitch up after the

[4:28:57] home actually comes out gets set

[4:28:59] on the foundation and so you're

[4:29:01] looking at a two month to three

[4:29:03] months at the most build

[4:29:04] timeline when you

[4:29:06] go with one of

[4:29:09] a standard typical home that we

[4:29:11] built and you know compared to a

[4:29:13] site built you're you're looking

[4:29:15] at six months at the minimum,

[4:29:16] especially in one of these rural

[4:29:17] communities. I mean you're

[4:29:18] probably looking at closer to a

[4:29:19] year or more than a year

[4:29:22] so

[4:29:26] we we save a lot of time and we

[4:29:28] also save people a lot of money

[4:29:29] so

[4:29:32] affordability I just did this

[4:29:35] little mockup estimate if we

[4:29:36] were just going to go

[4:29:39] to Ta and build a home. really

[4:29:40] we could do this in any rural

[4:29:42] community. I chose Taos because

[4:29:43] it's people can't build there

[4:29:45] for less than400 a foot right

[4:29:47] now it's the housing market has

[4:29:50] just gotten crazy. minus the

[4:29:52] land this would be our cost if

[4:29:54] we were to go up there and build

[4:29:56] a home between the foundation

[4:29:57] of everything to get the home

[4:29:59] actually turnkey we're looking

[4:30:02] at160 bucks a foot to build it

[4:30:04] whereas yeah intas site builders

[4:30:05] can't build a home for less

[4:30:06] than400 buck

[4:30:08] a foot frankly so

[4:30:11] when I say this is a a good

[4:30:12] solution for our rural

[4:30:13] communities. I I really do mean

[4:30:14] it.

[4:30:18] greener

[4:30:22] I I know that we are facing so

[4:30:27] many issues and topics around

[4:30:29] just the issue of waste so

[4:30:30] modular with our streamlined

[4:30:32] processes with our lack of

[4:30:35] weather damage theft, you name

[4:30:39] it. we use about30% of the waste

[4:30:40] that a site builder would use

[4:30:41] for building a home so think

[4:30:44] we would use like a55 gallon

[4:30:48] dumpster loaded up per home

[4:30:49] whereas a site builder would

[4:30:51] probably use two semi trucks

[4:30:55] of waste so it's a very green

[4:31:02] y fortify it so now we'll talk

[4:31:03] about fortified structures our

[4:31:04] actual company what sets us

[4:31:05] apart and how we can help

[4:31:09] so we are very vertical

[4:31:12] vertically integrated we

[4:31:13] originally started as a civil

[4:31:15] construction company. my

[4:31:18] parents started JNhervices about

[4:31:21] 30 years ago and have run it in

[4:31:22] southeast New Mexico building

[4:31:26] bridges highways since then

[4:31:28] have acquired an asphalt plant a

[4:31:30] concrete plant and so when

[4:31:32] somebody hires us we don't just

[4:31:34] build the houses we actually do

[4:31:35] the civil engineering we do the

[4:31:36] dirt work and everything

[4:31:38] because we see a lot of these

[4:31:40] municipalities when they get

[4:31:42] funding from the state the first

[4:31:43] place they'll go is they'll hire

[4:31:45] a super expensive engineer spent

[4:31:46] half the project money on an

[4:31:47] engineer that engineers the

[4:31:49] project to be way more expensive

[4:31:51] than anything they can afford

[4:31:52] and then the project doesn't get

[4:31:54] done and so when you're able to

[4:31:57] keep this whole project in house

[4:31:59] you know we're able to

[4:32:01] understand the customers values

[4:32:03] the end goals and from start to

[4:32:05] finish we're able to stay on the

[4:32:06] same page with everybody

[4:32:09] because we're we handle the

[4:32:12] whole process so yeah we from

[4:32:14] the civil engineering to the

[4:32:17] actual homes being turnkey

[4:32:18] ready. we handle that

[4:32:21] we don't

[4:32:23] let me just say we don't have to

[4:32:26] handle that if a municipality or

[4:32:28] somebody was to say hey we have

[4:32:30] these lots already developed you

[4:32:30] know that's not something that

[4:32:33] we have to do but we we have

[4:32:34] capacity to take care of the

[4:32:34] whole thing

[4:32:40] unique business structure so

[4:32:42] because all the factory because

[4:32:43] the factory does all the heavy

[4:32:44] lifting by building the homes in

[4:32:45] the

[4:32:50] plant we are able to qualify a

[4:32:52] lot of contractors in local

[4:32:54] areas that we're building that

[4:32:57] maybe wouldn't be able to handle

[4:32:59] all the capacity if they were

[4:33:01] just to build100% of the homes.

[4:33:04] so when we go to a different

[4:33:06] community our goal is to utilize

[4:33:06] the local

[4:33:10] workforce boost the economy,

[4:33:12] buy the new homes and also buy

[4:33:16] the labor because yeah the the

[4:33:18] amount of work that gets done on

[4:33:19] site is relatively easy.

[4:33:20] so

[4:33:24] there you go and yeah we're

[4:33:24] we're

[4:33:28] constantly scaling across the

[4:33:30] southwest by we have

[4:33:33] customers who are buying

[4:33:36] licenses to their areas I

[4:33:37] guess and they're just buying

[4:33:38] our home straight out of the

[4:33:42] factory and putting their homes

[4:33:42] in their local areas and

[4:33:45] that's sort of how we've been

[4:33:47] scaling and serving communities

[4:33:48] far fromRoswell.

[4:33:49] so

[4:33:54] here's a bit of our current

[4:33:56] speed incompa capacity right now

[4:33:59] so our current production is two

[4:34:00] modules a day

[4:34:02] we we work in terms of modules

[4:34:04] because a home can be one

[4:34:05] module, a home could be10

[4:34:06] modules it really just depends

[4:34:08] on the home. So think the

[4:34:10] average home is about 2 modules

[4:34:12] so we're building a house a day

[4:34:14] right now out of the factory.

[4:34:16] Our goal by the end of 227 is to

[4:34:19] double that and then once we

[4:34:20] double that we'll open up our

[4:34:22] second production line through

[4:34:23] the plant because really only

[4:34:26] using30 or40% of it right now

[4:34:27] the actual square footage in our

[4:34:28] factory

[4:34:33] so that that's a little bit

[4:34:34] about us. I look forward to any

[4:34:37] questions that you guys have

[4:34:39] that's our director of sales

[4:34:41] contact info but I also have

[4:34:42] business cards that I'd love to

[4:34:42] hand out with with mine as well

[4:34:48] committee memberspresentative

[4:34:48] Abela

[4:34:51] thank you chair. thank you Mr.

[4:34:52] Mitchell for your

[4:34:55] presentation and for also

[4:34:56] bringing your father a quick

[4:34:57] question

[4:35:01] quick question well multiple

[4:35:02] questions the Red river

[4:35:03] structure that you showed up

[4:35:05] here can you give me a little

[4:35:06] bit of the details about what it

[4:35:07] was and how much that costs

[4:35:12] madam Chairpresentative, thank

[4:35:13] you for asking that question.

[4:35:14] Yes so the

[4:35:18] town of Red River approached us

[4:35:20] they needed workforce housing

[4:35:20] they have

[4:35:22] the same issue that a lot of

[4:35:25] these rural, especially these

[4:35:26] mountain towns have where the

[4:35:27] real estate has become so

[4:35:28] expensive that the people who

[4:35:29] actually run the town can't live

[4:35:30] there.

[4:35:31] so

[4:35:32] we came in

[4:35:36] we completed the homes and set

[4:35:37] the homes within two months and

[4:35:41] then we we actually did the site

[4:35:42] work after that

[4:35:43] now

[4:35:48] I I believe the cost was around

[4:35:50] 250 b a square foot. that's

[4:35:52] probably not the exact number

[4:35:54] but that's that's where we were

[4:35:58] to to build that turnkey whereas

[4:36:01] yeah do you have anything else

[4:36:03] to say? Yeah I could speak to

[4:36:04] that a little bit so each one of

[4:36:07] those units is1280 square feet

[4:36:08] there

[4:36:11] they were right around 250 a

[4:36:12] foot with the

[4:36:15] the government procurement side

[4:36:17] because everything in the

[4:36:19] factory we were able to not pay

[4:36:20] the wage rate decision but

[4:36:22] everything on site had to be bid

[4:36:25] as wage rate decision. we

[4:36:26] helped them with all the

[4:36:29] engineering and it also being

[4:36:32] in Red River had to be zonefi

[4:36:34] insulated and approved for that

[4:36:36] so that added to the cost to

[4:36:38] some degree their quote for this

[4:36:40] project was near50000 of the

[4:36:44] so came in at half that yeah we

[4:36:45] were just right at half of

[4:36:47] what they were thinking it was

[4:36:48] going to cost them

[4:36:51] you chair thank you Mr.

[4:36:53] Mitchell. So just to clarify the

[4:36:55] original estimate was500,000

[4:36:56] because that was going to

[4:36:58] include engineering and other

[4:37:00] prep work but at the end of the

[4:37:02] project it was

[4:37:06] $250 per square foot. Right

[4:37:08] correct right well no they they

[4:37:10] estimate to build it on site

[4:37:13] with a local contractor was500 a

[4:37:14] foot by using us they saved

[4:37:16] half. Thank you I misunderstood

[4:37:18] that thank you madam Chair Mr.

[4:37:18] Mitchell. OK

[4:37:21] I think that's a great idea

[4:37:23] for a lot of our rural schools

[4:37:25] that are grappling with how

[4:37:26] we're going to provide teacher

[4:37:29] housing so this is interesting

[4:37:31] so can you tell me what was

[4:37:32] the total cost then?

[4:37:36] they had some additional costs

[4:37:38] there was some facilities here

[4:37:40] that they dem demoed to make

[4:37:43] room for this. I believe our

[4:37:45] contract was right around 2

[4:37:46] million and it

[4:37:50] I didn't mention but all all

[4:37:52] those units were a three bedroom

[4:37:52] two bath

[4:37:52] units

[4:38:00] Thank you chair and Mr Mitchell

[4:38:01] my next question is

[4:38:06] you may have answered this a

[4:38:07] while ago you had talked about

[4:38:09] how you use the local workforce

[4:38:13] but you build in your facility

[4:38:15] so is a a a crew taken out? Is

[4:38:17] is that the work what what's the

[4:38:19] local workforce helplp me

[4:38:20] understand that madam Chair

[4:38:22] andpresentative thank you for

[4:38:23] that question. I'd love to

[4:38:26] clarify it so the actual home

[4:38:28] like you you see these we can

[4:38:30] just look at this for example so

[4:38:32] the home when you walk in

[4:38:33] there the cabinet

[4:38:36] s the flooring, the countertops,

[4:38:38] the bathrooms that was all done

[4:38:40] in the factory. However, there

[4:38:41] are certain things that need to

[4:38:43] take place on site once we

[4:38:44] actually set the home on the

[4:38:45] foundation. Well, one the

[4:38:47] foundation needs to be poured on

[4:38:50] site. that metal roof had to be

[4:38:51] done on site. there's a little

[4:38:54] bit of the sighting that has to

[4:38:56] marry up a little bit of

[4:38:58] interior work plumbing

[4:38:59] connections, electrical

[4:39:02] connections and that has to be

[4:39:02] done on site and so we can use

[4:39:05] our local

[4:39:07] trade

[4:39:10] force that we use inRoswell

[4:39:10] arttesia but

[4:39:14] we prefer and we know that the

[4:39:15] communities prefer that we use

[4:39:16] their local

[4:39:18] workforce because it's

[4:39:20] relatively easy stuff it it's

[4:39:24] not anything that a regular

[4:39:24] contractor can't handle

[4:39:29] you for that answer chair and

[4:39:30] Mr Mitchell, my last question is

[4:39:32] what are the warranties on these

[4:39:33] types of structures

[4:39:37] madam chair andre representative

[4:39:40] we offer a one year bumper to

[4:39:43] bumper warranty on all our new

[4:39:45] homes and then they also come

[4:39:46] with a twoyear mechanical

[4:39:50] plumbing warranty so think the

[4:39:52] Ac goes out within the first two

[4:39:54] years we'll we'll go fix that

[4:39:55] and then they have a 10 year

[4:39:56] structural warranty. anything

[4:39:58] happens with the foundation

[4:40:00] whatnot in the 1st 10 years

[4:40:00] we'll go and fix that

[4:40:05] you have one more question thank

[4:40:06] you have you

[4:40:10] chaired Mr Mitchell have you

[4:40:11] contracted or worked with any

[4:40:13] public schools tribally

[4:40:14] controlled schools, private

[4:40:16] schools to provide teacher

[4:40:18] housing or tribally

[4:40:20] controlled health centers in in

[4:40:23] health service any medical type

[4:40:24] programs that need employee

[4:40:25] housing? have you worked with

[4:40:26] them and can you tell us about

[4:40:26] those

[4:40:30] madam chair andres

[4:40:30] representative, my dad can

[4:40:34] probably speak a little more to

[4:40:37] this we haven't had any teacher

[4:40:40] housing projects that we've

[4:40:41] completed yet we're in the works

[4:40:44] on a couple but I know that

[4:40:46] JNh services the civil side has

[4:40:49] done a lot and we are CES

[4:40:53] approved so we we can do that

[4:40:54] the teacher housing work

[4:40:57] directly correct yeah and and

[4:40:58] for the so we've been in a

[4:41:00] civil industry for 30 years and

[4:41:02] we've worked with the musscuaro

[4:41:04] tribe and one of their housing

[4:41:07] subdivisions that we built we

[4:41:08] did all the infrastructure at

[4:41:10] different vertical contractor

[4:41:12] built the structures for that

[4:41:13] one

[4:41:15] and we're currently working with

[4:41:16] muscular's putting in water

[4:41:19] system we've done a lot of work

[4:41:21] here over the years for the city

[4:41:22] of Gallup

[4:41:25] in 30 years we've done a lot of

[4:41:27] work so we we're very familiar

[4:41:30] with the the processes and and

[4:41:32] what needs to take place on the

[4:41:32] governmental side of it

[4:41:35] thank you madam chair thank you

[4:41:37] Mr Mitchell. I'm glad to hear

[4:41:39] that and I'm also glad I didn't

[4:41:41] hear of any restrictions or any

[4:41:43] concerns that you had that the

[4:41:44] federal government doesn't allow

[4:41:46] that type of contracting with

[4:41:48] modular buildings sounds like

[4:41:50] they do so yes ma'am so just

[4:41:52] because it's modular it it it

[4:41:54] appreciates everything about it

[4:41:55] as as if it's on site belt.

[4:42:00] and and it's actually better

[4:42:00] quality.

[4:42:01] thank you madam chair

[4:42:06] thank you thank youpresentative

[4:42:06] Representative royalabballero

[4:42:10] thank you madam chair and thank

[4:42:11] you it's good to see you again

[4:42:13] you would have been proud very

[4:42:15] proud of your son100 time full

[4:42:17] because he presented before the

[4:42:18] economic and rural

[4:42:21] development when we met in

[4:42:23] uhRoswell and part of our

[4:42:24] conversation madam chairir was

[4:42:27] we encouraged him to reach out

[4:42:29] to various interim committees

[4:42:30] around the state because we were

[4:42:33] still meeting and we wanted

[4:42:35] to help him

[4:42:37] promote

[4:42:41] the housing this modular

[4:42:42] housing

[4:42:45] and because of the very

[4:42:46] questions you were asking

[4:42:51] Teacher housing you know started

[4:42:52] working in in Cibala

[4:42:55] McKinley County's back in 2001

[4:42:57] and back then

[4:42:58] they were telling us

[4:43:02] about the need for teacher

[4:43:05] housing and then the city of

[4:43:06] Grantz was highly

[4:43:08] had

[4:43:10] high degree of dilapidated

[4:43:10] housing

[4:43:14] and housing had to be those

[4:43:16] homes had to be demolished they

[4:43:18] were ruled unsafe for a large to

[4:43:20] a large extent because they were

[4:43:21] so old they were built in the

[4:43:24] early mining industry so I

[4:43:27] say all that to say that again I

[4:43:29] I was exposed to modular housing

[4:43:31] when I was doing housing

[4:43:32] development down south

[4:43:35] and and thank you for asking

[4:43:37] the question about the federal

[4:43:39] government because it in fact

[4:43:41] was one of the very first

[4:43:43] grants I can't remember I think

[4:43:47] it was carlos might remember but

[4:43:48] we received

[4:43:52] Federal funding on from three

[4:43:54] different sources because at

[4:43:56] that time we were breaking

[4:43:58] ground it was a trailblazing

[4:44:01] idea of modular homes and it

[4:44:02] worked so well that the veterans

[4:44:04] administration bought into it

[4:44:07] in certain areas and far west

[4:44:09] Texas that are very isolated but

[4:44:13] yet veterans were were

[4:44:15] buying pieces of land once they

[4:44:17] had access to capital and so on

[4:44:19] so madam chair I wanted to

[4:44:24] just bring that because we

[4:44:27] encouraged exposure of

[4:44:29] this and the more you get

[4:44:31] exposed to us in our committees

[4:44:33] around the state I think the

[4:44:35] more the better understanding we

[4:44:36] get of how

[4:44:40] this could actually be a great

[4:44:41] resolution for our housing

[4:44:43] shortage but not only that the

[4:44:47] affordability factor we also

[4:44:48] madam chairir brought up the

[4:44:50] whole question of how are

[4:44:52] unfortunately our senior

[4:44:55] citizens are losing their homes

[4:44:57] because they're unable to

[4:44:58] keep up with the horrible

[4:45:00] costs associated they may have

[4:45:02] finished their mortgage but they

[4:45:03] have these high utility rates

[4:45:04] and all the other costs

[4:45:05] associated and their homes have

[4:45:06] now

[4:45:09] after th30,40,50 years become

[4:45:10] unaffordable and they

[4:45:15] especially those families that

[4:45:17] don't have dependences so

[4:45:20] this is a viable alternative

[4:45:23] affordable alternative in a

[4:45:24] number of ways and so one

[4:45:24] question

[4:45:28] were you able to get

[4:45:31] on the agenda with mortgage

[4:45:32] finance Author

[4:45:41] Madam Chair andre

[4:45:42] representative, thank you for

[4:45:44] that question. Yes ma'am we've

[4:45:46] actually presented at their

[4:45:47] board meeting

[4:45:51] before and I I've gotten to

[4:45:53] be a special guest once or twice

[4:45:55] so that's they've they've been

[4:45:58] very good to us and we're going

[4:45:59] to need all the legislative

[4:46:01] support we can get to move

[4:46:04] mortgage finance authority I

[4:46:05] think we all need to be the

[4:46:06] oversight for them because they

[4:46:08] have been presented many ideas

[4:46:10] and this is one of the most

[4:46:11] affordable ideas they've been

[4:46:13] presented and for some reason

[4:46:14] they have a new name what is it

[4:46:15] housing

[4:46:18] New Mexico or something like

[4:46:20] that they they just

[4:46:24] do not want to remove themselves

[4:46:24] from the conventional

[4:46:26] housing

[4:46:30] construction concepts right that

[4:46:34] self or380,000 dollars to start

[4:46:37] off with up and they call that

[4:46:39] affordable when in fact at

[4:46:41] one of their meetings madam

[4:46:43] chair a question was asked and

[4:46:46] said how much money would

[4:46:47] what is what would be the

[4:46:49] minimum hourly wage that a

[4:46:51] family would have to be made a

[4:46:53] head of household would have to

[4:46:55] make in order to be able to

[4:46:56] afford just walking into

[4:46:57] a380,000

[4:47:00] and it came out to44 almost45

[4:47:01] dollars an hour

[4:47:04] wage they would have to earn in

[4:47:07] order to be able to walk

[4:47:08] into380,00

[4:47:13] you know in Albuquerque so

[4:47:14] again this is

[4:47:19] a real alternate not alternative

[4:47:22] it's a real housing opportunity

[4:47:25] that's being presented to us at

[4:47:26] different committees and

[4:47:28] different areas of our state

[4:47:30] where we're all being faced with

[4:47:31] a housing crisis

[4:47:35] and we heard earlier fromallup

[4:47:37] about the homeless unsheltered

[4:47:38] crisis that we're facing

[4:47:40] when we have a viable

[4:47:43] alternative right here so I just

[4:47:44] wanted to say thank you to you

[4:47:46] for being diligent in pursuing

[4:47:49] these presentations and I

[4:47:51] would just say that you keep

[4:47:53] doing it be persistent and

[4:47:55] we'll keep promoting as much as

[4:47:59] we can the the this

[4:48:00] housing

[4:48:02] modular home

[4:48:05] concept although it's been

[4:48:09] around for a while but in in the

[4:48:10] other admirable thing is that

[4:48:12] you're present right here in our

[4:48:13] backyard in the state of New

[4:48:14] Mexico

[4:48:16] so I'm glad you did a little bit

[4:48:18] about your company because

[4:48:20] you're located right here

[4:48:21] inRoswell, New Mexico.

[4:48:23] so and you have the capacity to

[4:48:24] be

[4:48:29] communities as well and I

[4:48:31] think the more volume it's the

[4:48:33] classic capitalist concept the

[4:48:36] more volume the cost can go down

[4:48:38] so the more volume we have in

[4:48:39] this type of housing hopefully

[4:48:40] by the time you get toallup, New

[4:48:41] Mexico

[4:48:44] the the price per square foot

[4:48:46] might go down from160 to

[4:48:48] maybe140,120 I don't know

[4:48:50] wishful thinking but anyway

[4:48:51] thank you madam chair and and

[4:48:52] thank you

[4:48:58] and and and again you give us

[4:49:00] hope because you're a young man

[4:49:02] following in a family business

[4:49:03] but you're doing an excellent

[4:49:04] job. Thank you.

[4:49:06] thank youpresentative

[4:49:08] Representative Vice chairir

[4:49:09] Johnson. thank you madam chairir

[4:49:14] I just want to say now you tell

[4:49:15] me

[4:49:17] because I'm one of those people

[4:49:18] who drives back

[4:49:27] So I think I'm excited to

[4:49:30] continue to follow and support

[4:49:33] this program. I know that our

[4:49:34] health

[4:49:39] our senior citizens

[4:49:48] see our students commute

[4:49:51] hundreds of miles just to attend

[4:49:53] class who who need to be in

[4:50:00] a class work so and I want to

[4:50:02] thankpresentative Abeda for the

[4:50:06] questions she asked all the

[4:50:06] questions that we were curious

[4:50:07] about

[4:50:09] and so I think homes are

[4:50:16] so

[4:50:17] thank you

[4:50:23] you any other questions for

[4:50:24] committee members

[4:50:30] thank you thank you for coming

[4:50:32] all the way this way and even

[4:50:34] to my community members that are

[4:50:37] here this is one of the a little

[4:50:40] bit of a solution I think for

[4:50:41] many of the things we because

[4:50:42] even with our behavioral health

[4:50:44] entities that presented earlier

[4:50:47] after that 90 days is up when

[4:50:50] they are ready to get going it's

[4:50:51] permanent housing. how do we get

[4:50:52] them to that next step of

[4:50:53] something they can afford

[4:50:55] especially if they have those

[4:50:56] skills and meet the needs of the

[4:51:00] So I'm very grateful for you

[4:51:03] coming up and looking forward to

[4:51:05] seeing you and I I really pass

[4:51:06] your name the name of your

[4:51:08] company around to people when

[4:51:10] they talk about housing I'm like

[4:51:12] check this out but he does

[4:51:13] have a website online

[4:51:16] for you to look on with some of

[4:51:17] the information and the videos

[4:51:20] they do have something there

[4:51:21] but thank you for the committee

[4:51:24] members and thank you and I

[4:51:25] don't have any que I I think you

[4:51:27] answered a lot of my questions

[4:51:28] after we had that

[4:51:30] presentation so that was where I

[4:51:31] I I

[4:51:33] they were good answers

[4:51:36] Thank you guys

[4:51:43] ok we're on item number5 Senate

[4:51:45] bill3 with Mr. Collins and

[4:51:47] then we have one more after that

[4:51:48] with an update from the McKinley

[4:51:52] County DWRI court from our pres

[4:51:52] judgedyazzie

[4:52:47] OKen you've been before the

[4:52:48] committee before so I'm sure

[4:52:50] you're familiar and

[4:52:51] oh is he gonna join you

[4:52:53] ok that's fine

[4:52:56] he wants to join me

[4:52:58] you want to join me

[4:53:03] so members we are

[4:53:08] we are 6 minutes behind. I'm

[4:53:08] just curious.

[4:53:11] you may be gettingin.

[4:53:17] Well thank you

[4:53:22] can you hear me

[4:53:26] hello

[4:53:30] thank you madam chair vice chair

[4:53:33] and senators and representatives

[4:53:35] part of this committee it's

[4:53:38] really an honor to be here.

[4:53:40] I don't know about being short

[4:53:42] because as a part of why I'm

[4:53:44] here I want to give you a really

[4:53:46] my

[4:53:52] how I got here started 50 years

[4:53:52] ago on December

[4:53:56] thir1st around3 in the morning

[4:54:01] when my

[4:54:05] professional baseball career

[4:54:08] ended after I ran into a car on

[4:54:08] a snowmobile

[4:54:12] I'm from Oregon originally and

[4:54:15] I'd come home from a successful

[4:54:16] baseball season

[4:54:18] your first handout is a

[4:54:21] letter that I received from

[4:54:22] Tonyegegal

[4:54:24] I was hoping to

[4:54:28] move out of professional

[4:54:31] baseball here in the states. I'd

[4:54:33] play I'd turn down playing in

[4:54:36] Mexico in1976 to stay at home in

[4:54:37] oregon

[4:54:41] I played professionally for

[4:54:44] six seasons for regular seasons

[4:54:45] with the Milwaukeebrewers in

[4:54:47] their farm system. I got

[4:54:51] released in'751975 from the

[4:54:54] sacramento bees in the Pacific

[4:54:57] coast League I might be the

[4:55:00] only player that you know who

[4:55:01] actually pitched against the

[4:55:02] Albuquerque dukes

[4:55:05] Tommy Lasorda, Ronsey

[4:55:11] that's my relief pitcher back

[4:55:12] here in the back

[4:55:17] Larry Foster he was honored to

[4:55:18] be a part of Native Americanhall

[4:55:21] of fame baseball playing hall of

[4:55:22] fame but

[4:55:28] really I'm here to really try to

[4:55:29] give you information and what

[4:55:31] I've learned over the last50

[4:55:34] years of living with a brain

[4:55:36] injury because I really hope

[4:55:37] that this information I know

[4:55:40] I've talked to uhpresentative

[4:55:42] Johnson since she's had her

[4:55:45] brain injury and I'll let her

[4:55:46] talk to

[4:55:48] some of that after I talk here

[4:55:51] about her care and and really I

[4:55:53] think it's gonna

[4:55:56] point out some of the reasons

[4:55:56] why I'm here

[4:55:59] because really

[4:56:03] it's really hard to understand

[4:56:05] we look fine

[4:56:08] but you don't understand the

[4:56:10] difficulties that we have in

[4:56:11] just daily living

[4:56:16] Once our brain is scrambled it

[4:56:19] really is hard to make sense of

[4:56:21] things and understand things. it

[4:56:24] was good that Bill Lee was here

[4:56:24] talking about epilepsy

[4:56:27] the number one cause of epilepsy

[4:56:28] is brain injuries.

[4:56:33] and so I really recommend and I

[4:56:34] support what he was saying and

[4:56:36] doing with the vagus nerve

[4:56:36] implant

[4:56:39] because that's one of the things

[4:56:40] I've learned over the years and

[4:56:42] I'll talk a little bit about

[4:56:43] this as I go along

[4:56:44] but when I

[4:56:47] woke up I'll tell you a little

[4:56:49] bit about my injury

[4:56:52] everything I don't know any of

[4:56:54] things I've got about a month

[4:56:58] missing. I remember going to

[4:57:00] the hot springs I'd come home

[4:57:02] for the holidays after its

[4:57:03] successful baseball season. I

[4:57:08] was10 and1 in1976 our team took

[4:57:09] the state championship instead

[4:57:11] of I turned down played in

[4:57:13] Mexico professionally but I

[4:57:14] stayed in Oregon to plan semiro

[4:57:16] team Bend Oregon

[4:57:20] I was10 and1. our team took

[4:57:21] the state championship. I

[4:57:24] pitched the semifinal game to

[4:57:25] get us into the playoffs and

[4:57:28] then I came in in relief to win

[4:57:28] the championship

[4:57:32] like I I was gonna use this

[4:57:32] letter

[4:57:37] to go out of the states because

[4:57:41] in1976 Major League Baseball

[4:57:44] was opening up and as well as

[4:57:48] Europee was expanding Italy that

[4:57:50] they were all kinds of places

[4:57:52] for me to play and I was gonna

[4:57:55] take my skills and my abilities

[4:57:57] outside of the states because I

[4:57:58] saw that's where my future was.

[4:58:04] unfortunately I never got to use

[4:58:04] this letter

[4:58:08] like I said they told me that

[4:58:11] I remember Christmas Eve I went

[4:58:13] up to the hot springs. I wanted

[4:58:15] to do two things when I got home

[4:58:16] for the ho well three things

[4:58:19] actually regroup and decide if I

[4:58:20] was where I was going to play

[4:58:21] that summer if I was going to

[4:58:22] play

[4:58:26] other was to go to the hot

[4:58:28] springs well actually you had to

[4:58:30] go to the hot springs and that's

[4:58:31] what I remember doing on

[4:58:33] Christmas Eve. The other was to

[4:58:34] go snowmobiling

[4:58:37] I don't remember that they tell

[4:58:38] me I was

[4:58:42] one of my we met a bunch of

[4:58:43] people three of us had been

[4:58:45] snowmobiling for a couple3 hours

[4:58:46] we met other people at this

[4:58:47] rendezvous place

[4:58:53] after the bars had closed so

[4:58:55] they all came up and I guess one

[4:58:57] of my friends had lost his keys

[4:59:00] to a snowbill, another hot wired

[4:59:01] it and they said let me take

[4:59:02] it for a test run

[4:59:05] they told me I went up about

[4:59:08] mile, came back all all out and

[4:59:10] was probably doing4050 miles an

[4:59:12] hour. the only person that saw

[4:59:15] saw what happened was standing

[4:59:17] in there was a line of pickups

[4:59:20] on one side there was a u and he

[4:59:23] was standing in between the the

[4:59:24] pickups and the and and the you

[4:59:27] and all I can think of is I must

[4:59:29] have saw him and tried to avoid

[4:59:31] hitting him and ran heads

[4:59:32] headfirst into a side of

[4:59:33] a parked car

[4:59:37] when I hit the car I broke my

[4:59:40] jaw below my chin rammed this

[4:59:43] jawbone into my ear canal on

[4:59:44] impact I separated my skull

[4:59:46] busted out some teeth, broke a

[4:59:51] rib and knocked me out for so

[4:59:53] the only thing that I then the

[4:59:56] next thing I remember was waking

[4:59:56] up at home

[4:59:59] in front of a mirror about 6

[5:00:01] inches in front of a mirror

[5:00:03] coming out at darkness through a

[5:00:07] fog to picking the wires of my

[5:00:08] mouth my wire my mouth was wired

[5:00:09] shut

[5:00:15] what the blank happened to you

[5:00:17] that's all I could say because I

[5:00:19] didn't know I knew that I was at

[5:00:21] home because I was in my folks'

[5:00:24] bedroom with my bathrobe on my

[5:00:24] name wasen and I played baseball

[5:00:28] but I didn't know anything about

[5:00:30] home kin or baseball. the only

[5:00:32] thing I knew was my mouth was

[5:00:33] wid shut and I didn't know why

[5:00:38] so I walked into my mar tried to

[5:00:39] find my mom. I remember sitting

[5:00:41] back there for a half hour

[5:00:43] trying to figure out what's

[5:00:45] going on and so I walked in to

[5:00:47] try to find my mom who just

[5:00:48] happened to be coming down the

[5:00:52] hallway my my mom operated a

[5:00:53] shoe store and so she's getting

[5:00:55] ready to go to work and Is

[5:00:56] stopped her

[5:00:59] why is my mouth wiren't shut and

[5:01:01] I can still remember that look

[5:01:02] on her face of

[5:01:06] well you were in a snowmobile

[5:01:08] wreck at Summit Lake, but I

[5:01:10] grabbed her and I said momm what

[5:01:12] what what do you mean? I just

[5:01:14] got here fromor which is the

[5:01:16] first time I was ever able to

[5:01:19] say that to her even though it

[5:01:20] would take me three or four

[5:01:22] months to be able to remember

[5:01:25] about being inor and coming home

[5:01:28] I just said it and just that

[5:01:30] look on her face I can still

[5:01:32] feel her arm her hands on my

[5:01:33] arms. Oh your back

[5:01:35] you're back

[5:01:39] what do you mean? what happened

[5:01:41] to me? Why is my mouth wired

[5:01:42] shut?

[5:01:44] So I'd already forgot about

[5:01:45] being in the snowmobile wreck

[5:01:47] and that's the way it is with

[5:01:49] brain injury. it took me a long

[5:01:50] time that short term memory loss

[5:01:54] now I want to come up to

[5:01:58] this next when I this next is a

[5:02:01] letter fromRobert Saposky. he's

[5:02:04] a noted neuroscientist from

[5:02:04] Chicago

[5:02:09] when I came when I came to and I

[5:02:10] started having friends come over

[5:02:13] to see me after after I got out

[5:02:15] of the hospital I could

[5:02:17] recognize her face but I

[5:02:18] couldn't remember their name

[5:02:20] and that really bothered it it

[5:02:23] was embarrassing. I mean I a

[5:02:25] small town my graduating class

[5:02:28] was 98 kids and that was a long

[5:02:31] largest class in in the school

[5:02:32] history but I knew everybody,

[5:02:36] everybody knew me and I couldn't

[5:02:36] remember their name

[5:02:40] and it was just so embarrassing

[5:02:42] and the harder that I tried to

[5:02:44] remember the more impossible it

[5:02:44] was

[5:02:47] but my baseball

[5:02:48] skills kicked in

[5:02:52] because that's one thing you

[5:02:54] learn as a pitcher is how to

[5:02:56] control stress so that you can

[5:02:59] block all this stuff that's

[5:03:01] going on because your job is to

[5:03:03] throw strikes get people out

[5:03:06] that's focused concentration but

[5:03:08] most of all it's relaxation

[5:03:12] because when you're pitching

[5:03:15] and if you don't manage the

[5:03:18] stress your wrist straightens

[5:03:20] out stiffens up and your

[5:03:22] fastball straightens out which

[5:03:25] makes it easier to hit so your

[5:03:27] drill all the time about

[5:03:30] listening to your body. nowadays

[5:03:31] that's called biofeedback

[5:03:35] and staying calm keeping your

[5:03:38] poise, breathing that's all

[5:03:39] called mindfulness

[5:03:40] now

[5:03:46] so all these things that I had

[5:03:49] to learn the hard way. I mean I

[5:03:50] I like to tell people that I

[5:03:52] greg graduated from the school

[5:03:54] of hard knocks because that's

[5:03:57] the way it is. I mean within the

[5:03:59] brain injury

[5:04:03] so let me go and so when I

[5:04:06] did that when I listened to my

[5:04:06] body

[5:04:08] and just

[5:04:10] stayed calm sometimes their name

[5:04:11] would come

[5:04:16] not every time but it it would

[5:04:18] definitely would never come if

[5:04:19] I'm trying to remember and

[5:04:22] it just it just that's just how

[5:04:25] it works and so I kept that and

[5:04:26] so once I started having

[5:04:30] I'm a founding member of the

[5:04:32] Oregon Head Injury Foundation

[5:04:35] in1985 so I'll come up a little

[5:04:39] bit from that50 years so I was

[5:04:41] appointed by5 governors in

[5:04:42] Oregon to sit on the Oregon

[5:04:45] disability commission because of

[5:04:48] my experience and knowhow as a

[5:04:52] vista volunteer in1988. I

[5:04:54] started the first brain injury

[5:04:56] supported living program in

[5:04:56] the country as

[5:05:00] a vista volunteer so I mean I've

[5:05:02] been active in all this stuff

[5:05:04] but this is all part of my

[5:05:06] knowledge and that's what I want

[5:05:08] to share with with y'all because

[5:05:10] right now you've got a you've

[5:05:12] got a your vice chair has had a

[5:05:16] brain injury and it's it really

[5:05:19] is important I mean that that

[5:05:22] you see here as capable and just

[5:05:23] because she has a brain injury

[5:05:24] doesn't mean that she's not

[5:05:26] capable because she's more than

[5:05:26] capable I've talked to her a lot

[5:05:30] I I hope I'm not making her

[5:05:34] uncomfortable but it really

[5:05:36] is critical that we

[5:05:39] identify folks with brain

[5:05:42] injuries on the streets and

[5:05:43] that's really part part of why

[5:05:45] I'm here this next inf

[5:05:48] information I got is a guy

[5:05:50] that's I picked this up when I

[5:05:52] was given my groups I've been

[5:05:54] giving groups here for over

[5:05:56] fif years this was one of my

[5:05:56] first

[5:06:00] groups I went to at the jail to

[5:06:02] talk about brain injury

[5:06:06] awareness bring it because I I

[5:06:08] believe and again that's why I'm

[5:06:12] here is to is to identify people

[5:06:13] with brain injuries on the

[5:06:16] streets of Gallup because unless

[5:06:19] we do this it's going to make

[5:06:21] really solving the problem of

[5:06:23] the revolving door that we have

[5:06:25] here impossible to to end

[5:06:28] so

[5:06:28] the next

[5:06:33] handout I've got is the coping

[5:06:34] with stress

[5:06:36] this is the mindfulness that I

[5:06:37] talk about

[5:06:42] this is the ways that we can

[5:06:45] assist people at the hojos I

[5:06:47] forgot to tell you I'm executive

[5:06:48] director of thehosho Center for

[5:06:51] Personal Enhancement. our office

[5:06:52] is down in the mall. We

[5:06:54] primarily work with people on

[5:06:55] the streets

[5:06:59] I've talked about this

[5:07:01] identifying people with with

[5:07:04] brain injuries for over 20

[5:07:06] years. I just had my 2fourth

[5:07:08] anniversary living ingumerco

[5:07:12] I've been living here for 24

[5:07:14] years so and when the

[5:07:16] hozhouenter was first being

[5:07:19] organized it was being

[5:07:22] organized as a drop in center

[5:07:23] for people on the streets with

[5:07:25] alcohol substance abuse and

[5:07:26] mental health issues

[5:07:30] I got involved because when I

[5:07:32] heard mental health I wanted to

[5:07:34] make sure that people with brain

[5:07:36] injuries were a part of this

[5:07:36] discussion

[5:07:39] because

[5:07:43] mental health mental illness and

[5:07:44] brain injury they're all

[5:07:47] separate well it probably a

[5:07:49] brain injuries are included with

[5:07:50] mental health but I wanted to

[5:07:52] make sure that specifically

[5:07:54] people with brain injuries were

[5:07:54] identified

[5:07:58] so that we could so they would

[5:08:00] receive the type of care in

[5:08:01] terms of stress management,

[5:08:04] everything that I've learned

[5:08:06] over the last50 years has been

[5:08:07] what I've been talking about

[5:08:08] so

[5:08:12] there's the second one young

[5:08:14] young brain shaped by fear and

[5:08:17] pain that really is some of the

[5:08:19] trauma that we're seeing on the

[5:08:22] streets so when and that's why

[5:08:25] everyone is in a state of

[5:08:30] reaction they're not capable

[5:08:31] they're they're in their

[5:08:33] survival skill that their

[5:08:35] survival instincts are in

[5:08:38] control

[5:08:41] uhpresentativeabbelcaballero

[5:08:44] sorry when you mention that

[5:08:45] about intake it's critical

[5:08:50] see that's why I mentioned now

[5:08:52] on your second handout here

[5:08:52] you've got

[5:08:56] we're working with UN them we

[5:08:59] have two interns that we're

[5:09:00] working with who are passing out

[5:09:03] these these are are surveys

[5:09:05] because we want to get to those

[5:09:07] questions because right now

[5:09:10] intakes the way they are they're

[5:09:12] pretty much they don't ask the

[5:09:13] right questions

[5:09:17] and as a part of this handout

[5:09:19] and the questions that we're

[5:09:21] asking on the second page

[5:09:24] there's a

[5:09:27] there's a screening tool

[5:09:31] that we want everybody to use

[5:09:33] right now the only ones that are

[5:09:35] using it are Gallup Indian

[5:09:38] Medical Center that I'm aware of

[5:09:40] some of the MCO's

[5:09:42] presbyterian Molina they've

[5:09:44] picked it up to so they're

[5:09:45] starting to use a different

[5:09:48] screening tool not this one. I

[5:09:49] just found out about this one at

[5:09:51] our last brain injury

[5:09:52] advisory council meeting you

[5:09:55] have a question OK yeah as part

[5:09:57] of our I'm on the brain

[5:09:58] injury advisory council

[5:10:01] and I just found out that that

[5:10:02] we that

[5:10:05] my act have our own separate

[5:10:08] screening tool that's tied in to

[5:10:12] to to the part to HCA so that

[5:10:14] they're starting to gather this

[5:10:15] information so they can kind of

[5:10:16] ferret it out

[5:10:19] and that will that's that will

[5:10:22] be included with Senate

[5:10:23] Bill30. that's part of this

[5:10:25] Senate bill3 again I think that

[5:10:26] you have Senate Bill30

[5:10:28] yeah

[5:10:30] and so

[5:10:31] ok

[5:10:36] the last thing I want to talk

[5:10:38] about is that I was identi I was

[5:10:40] contracted last week this is

[5:10:42] another thing at thehozhoenter

[5:10:44] is working on and that's a

[5:10:46] creation of of a youth center

[5:10:48] youth homeless center there's

[5:10:51] gonna be a meeting at our

[5:10:53] office onn on Thursday at one

[5:10:59] o'clock the person att Donnia

[5:11:00] she's the one that contacted me

[5:11:02] about this meeting we think that

[5:11:02] there's that there's really a

[5:11:03] need for

[5:11:07] a shelter a youth shelter so

[5:11:10] we're so our role is to advocate

[5:11:13] and draw people together so that

[5:11:14] we can create that

[5:11:19] and in closing I just want to

[5:11:20] thank you for this opportunity

[5:11:21] to be here. I know it's kind

[5:11:24] it's a lot to put5y years into

[5:11:30] fif minutes but but you know

[5:11:32] I've been trying to identify

[5:11:35] folks here with brain injuries

[5:11:38] and I see the I see that s that

[5:11:40] sy or that senate bill 30 is a

[5:11:43] way to do that and I'm not

[5:11:45] really sure what I could be

[5:11:47] asking of the committee. I know

[5:11:52] that Judgeyazi in Danielle

[5:11:54] are going to be talking and we

[5:11:54] have an MOU with them

[5:11:58] I don't know if they're they're

[5:11:59] here yet are they here yet? OK

[5:12:00] great.

[5:12:03] so are are you

[5:12:09] OK OK but we support what

[5:12:10] they're doing and they support

[5:12:10] what we're doing

[5:12:15] and and and but it's some we're

[5:12:17] we're the lone angers out here

[5:12:21] you know I mean I've talked to

[5:12:23] Patty Lundstrom and I talked to

[5:12:24] Billy I've been talking for 24

[5:12:26] years in identifying people with

[5:12:29] brain injuries and that it's

[5:12:30] just now starting to happen

[5:12:34] but however how much you can

[5:12:37] help with that I'd really

[5:12:38] appreciate it I I'm telling you

[5:12:42] until we identify these folks

[5:12:44] and get them the care that they

[5:12:46] need the revolving door is going

[5:12:47] to continue here

[5:12:51] and you know we're we the

[5:12:53] hosienter for Personal

[5:12:55] enhancement we're doing some

[5:12:57] good stuff you know and we could

[5:12:58] use your support

[5:13:00] So I don't know that

[5:13:02] my buddy here

[5:13:04] join in

[5:13:11] got ado J Robinsonhom and

[5:13:16] touching in

[5:13:26] richard from Robinson my name

[5:13:28] Robinson I'm very before36 and a

[5:13:28] half years

[5:13:34] I start off with rom pointhaviur

[5:13:34] healthalth

[5:13:36] as a cook used to be cook around

[5:13:37] here

[5:13:39] then

[5:13:44] after that17e years I've been

[5:13:45] working with the behavio health

[5:13:49] after that I left the laid me

[5:13:52] off and I started working for

[5:13:52] Napa Autoarts

[5:13:54] only worked for three weeks

[5:13:58] and hova RChhar me back

[5:13:59] as a

[5:14:03] staff out there and then

[5:14:04] they closed

[5:14:08] 36 years

[5:14:09] then I worked for

[5:14:16] what do you call it Santa Fe

[5:14:17] recovery housing over here

[5:14:18] recovery center I was working

[5:14:18] over there

[5:14:21] and then I I I just resigned

[5:14:26] and I feel comfortable but you

[5:14:26] know I was like ok

[5:14:29] a lot of conflicts between me

[5:14:30] and the

[5:14:32] staff I guess I never knew until

[5:14:35] that in but it was ok I'm

[5:14:36] working with my own people

[5:14:40] then he came and told me that he

[5:14:41] obinson want to hire you I know

[5:14:42] what you do

[5:14:45] so that's why I'm working I'm a

[5:14:47] traditional practitioner forgot

[5:14:48] to tell you that I'm a medicine

[5:14:48] man

[5:14:51] I got license I got certified

[5:14:53] and I never knew I was going

[5:14:54] to be one of that

[5:14:56] I never knew I was going to be

[5:14:57] where I'm sitting at you

[5:15:00] I'm a chapter official too with

[5:15:00] little water chapter

[5:15:04] I'm the vice president for the

[5:15:04] community at the little water

[5:15:09] and I have three kids my

[5:15:10] older daughter working with

[5:15:14] Crown Point Universityiv and

[5:15:16] then my wife would stay as

[5:15:16] human resource

[5:15:20] and then my son he's in Boston,

[5:15:21] Massachusetts atharard

[5:15:22] University MIT

[5:15:23] that's where he's going to

[5:15:24] school

[5:15:27] my son is about to graduate with

[5:15:30] medicalre and then my

[5:15:32] youngest one is working at

[5:15:32] Gallllup in the medicalenter up

[5:15:33] here he's just

[5:15:36] so I'm actually from umiranoly

[5:15:41] this community called pinedale

[5:15:42] Morenno especially in between

[5:15:42] the

[5:15:45] I was raised without no water

[5:15:48] no electric she

[5:15:49] just let go

[5:15:51] we're fighting with the sheep

[5:15:55] just wanted to bring in we have

[5:15:58] and I always think that that's

[5:15:59] ok but you know

[5:16:02] I'm glad I'm I'm here now that

[5:16:04] I'm helping my own people down

[5:16:06] at Hajoenter and recovery

[5:16:08] housing we had a hook on that we

[5:16:08] built up there at the recovery

[5:16:09] house and

[5:16:11] and then I'm down here at the

[5:16:14] the officeistan here doing

[5:16:14] talking in circle

[5:16:18] people come in come in every

[5:16:19] every morning to come in

[5:16:20] to sign up and

[5:16:23] the thing that I tell him to say

[5:16:24] hey man look at me

[5:16:27] I should be one of you. I used

[5:16:28] to walk the street when I was

[5:16:28] young

[5:16:30] tell them that you saw s sleep

[5:16:31] in the

[5:16:31] ditch

[5:16:35] where you guys were at you see

[5:16:36] you out of the

[5:16:40] I went there for what

[5:16:41] now I'm here

[5:16:45] and you guys can change

[5:16:47] I changed when I was 25 years

[5:16:48] old.

[5:16:51] and today we tell them that on

[5:16:58] there's good people up there

[5:16:58] that you can understand

[5:16:59] you know

[5:17:03] and I lost my mom when I was

[5:17:04] three years old

[5:17:04] I don't know how but

[5:17:07] and then my dad about 20

[5:17:12] this is part of my

[5:17:13] work

[5:17:13] every day

[5:17:17] I'm enjoying coming in from

[5:17:20] Liwater to here about an hour m

[5:17:20] round trip

[5:17:21] or street

[5:17:23] the long streets1

[5:17:28] so that's me thank you again for

[5:17:30] having me here sitting sharing

[5:17:31] my

[5:17:32] my experience with alcohol

[5:17:35] I always tell these guys that

[5:17:36] too is that

[5:17:39] nowadays nowadays there's

[5:17:40] alcohol miniatures

[5:17:40] or whatever they have

[5:17:44] they have watermelon flavor

[5:17:47] banana flavors that's what all

[5:17:48] our young kids are dying from

[5:17:48] they can't

[5:17:52] taste the alcohol that's where

[5:17:53] they eating the liver

[5:17:55] and I kept telling me I need

[5:17:59] thank you again for listening

[5:18:10] Thank you madam chairir. I just

[5:18:11] want to thank you for your

[5:18:13] presentation and your work in

[5:18:14] our

[5:18:19] previously I know I have

[5:18:20] earmarked

[5:18:41] communities or

[5:19:02] sorry

[5:19:08] do we had a dinner at Don

[5:19:11] Diego's it's an annual dinner

[5:19:14] with Santa Fe recovery with

[5:19:16] their board and I brought up to

[5:19:18] the chair and the new CEO for

[5:19:21] them to take the lead in

[5:19:23] developing a brain injury

[5:19:24] rehabilitation program

[5:19:29] they have a contact in I

[5:19:31] think it was Colorado with it an

[5:19:34] agency or or an organization

[5:19:36] that works specifically with

[5:19:38] alcohol substance abuse and

[5:19:41] brain injury so I'm working on

[5:19:42] that right now and if we could

[5:19:45] get say that organization to

[5:19:48] come here and set up shop that

[5:19:49] would be great. that would be

[5:19:52] just what we need because that's

[5:19:53] one of the things that's

[5:19:54] identified insenate bill30 is

[5:19:58] a need a recommendation that

[5:20:00] because right now there's no

[5:20:01] place in state everybody sent

[5:20:02] out a state

[5:20:05] for any kind of rehab brain

[5:20:06] injury rehab

[5:20:12] injury rehabilitation injury

[5:20:14] rehabilitation program that's

[5:20:15] one of the recommendations

[5:20:18] because there's nothing in in in

[5:20:19] New Mexico and there needs to be

[5:20:23] but so that's what I mentioned

[5:20:24] to but they say oh that's

[5:20:25] something we could look at so I

[5:20:27] mean see it's this kind of work

[5:20:30] I see that I do to give people

[5:20:33] ideas and reach out and connect

[5:20:34] with people

[5:20:39] but they didn't say no they just

[5:20:41] said then then that's how he

[5:20:43] found out about this the program

[5:20:45] that they know about that works

[5:20:46] with people with brain injuries

[5:20:51] because that would be ideal and

[5:20:54] then we are also working with

[5:20:56] brain injury it's not brain it's

[5:20:58] life skillsternational and

[5:21:00] that's something that I'm hoping

[5:21:03] that Judgeyazi will will bring

[5:21:05] up because we're working on

[5:21:06] identi this this this

[5:21:12] life skillsternational they

[5:21:15] work around the state but it's

[5:21:16] healing childhood trauma

[5:21:22] and curing complex PTSD

[5:21:25] they've got curriculum, they

[5:21:27] work with schools they've worked

[5:21:29] with domestic violence

[5:21:32] organizations with state

[5:21:35] agencies probation so they've

[5:21:38] worked with a number of and so

[5:21:39] that's who we're trying to get

[5:21:41] within our MOU that we're

[5:21:44] working on with with the courts

[5:21:48] is have the courts work with

[5:21:50] life skillsternational and I'm

[5:21:51] hoping that they're going to

[5:21:52] come up and she all kinds of

[5:21:53] great

[5:21:56] things about what they're doing

[5:21:59] but but but this has so much

[5:22:00] potential to solve our problems

[5:22:01] here

[5:22:03] to solve childhood trauma

[5:22:09] and cure complex PTSD and I

[5:22:12] believe in them. I I mean I it's

[5:22:14] it's not just belief but I've

[5:22:18] been involved with hearing and

[5:22:21] working with life skills to

[5:22:23] know that what they're talking

[5:22:25] about is the same thing that I

[5:22:28] talk about but it's finding the

[5:22:31] are really getting to that place

[5:22:33] to where practice you know

[5:22:36] that's what the curriculum

[5:22:38] offers people is a way because

[5:22:40] it's not just it's like with

[5:22:43] mindfulness for example you can

[5:22:44] read about mindfulness and go oh

[5:22:46] yeah that makes sense but you've

[5:22:48] got to practice it you got to

[5:22:51] practice it and so that's what

[5:22:53] life schools International has

[5:22:56] done. they've developed a system

[5:22:58] with a curriculum that makes it

[5:22:59] all happen

[5:23:01] and I'll just leave it up to

[5:23:03] them now to hope I didn't

[5:23:10] thank you and I think the

[5:23:11] well I don't really have

[5:23:12] questions for

[5:23:15] yeah we talked about

[5:23:20] but do have questions for our

[5:23:23] our our state people where this

[5:23:24] is going so

[5:23:29] and about finding in about SB3

[5:23:32] and all of that but stay in the

[5:23:32] stay in the conversation

[5:23:34] continue to advocate that's very

[5:23:35] important especially with this

[5:23:44] do you

[5:23:48] get the notices on some of that

[5:23:51] I believe you were involved with

[5:23:52] some of the planning that

[5:23:58] Wa SB3 I was but I never got

[5:23:58] invited back

[5:24:02] think they well they did have

[5:24:03] the initial meetings and yeah

[5:24:05] they had the initial meetings

[5:24:06] and there's been ongoing but we

[5:24:07] don't give you any help from

[5:24:12] people well yeah it was just

[5:24:13] really developing the point but

[5:24:15] thank you thank you for the work

[5:24:18] you do I don't want

[5:24:22] there'll be future work

[5:24:23] oh you're in trouble

[5:24:28] ok so committee members but

[5:24:29] thank you for joining us thank

[5:24:31] you Mr do you have any closing

[5:24:33] comment thank you very much and

[5:24:34] forgot to mention my brother

[5:24:35] I have an older brother named

[5:24:38] young Jeff Tom that's my older

[5:24:39] brother. I'm the youngest one

[5:24:40] from that family

[5:24:42] so just letting you guys do that

[5:24:46] thank you and now we will move

[5:24:49] to item 6 update from the

[5:24:51] McKinley County DWI court with

[5:24:55] our judgeyazi and miss Daniel

[5:24:56] Lechetti with the manager

[5:25:10] Testing testing

[5:25:18] good afternoon madam chairir.

[5:25:22] Senator Pino and of course

[5:25:23] committee members and of course

[5:25:25] representatives good afternoon

[5:25:26] thank you again for inviting us

[5:25:28] to give you an update on our DWI

[5:25:29] treatment program

[5:25:34] ga in I am Virginia Yazie I

[5:25:37] am currently the presiding judge

[5:25:39] over our DWI treatment program

[5:25:41] at the magistrate court here in

[5:25:42] Gallup.

[5:25:44] let me introduce myself again

[5:25:47] in Navajo I'm Navajo show

[5:25:50] y'all Virginiayazinia hasinli

[5:25:56] chai t

[5:26:01] and a nasha I come from

[5:26:03] cottonellevide. I drive every

[5:26:06] day again on I-40 with all the

[5:26:10] construction going on on on I-40

[5:26:12] so I make it to work on time

[5:26:13] sometimes especially during the

[5:26:14] wintertime it's kind of

[5:26:14] difficult to drive

[5:26:18] but again we're here to again

[5:26:20] provide you updates again

[5:26:22] regarding our DWI treatment

[5:26:24] program.gain our DWI treatment

[5:26:26] program has been in fruition

[5:26:30] since 2022 during that time

[5:26:34] we had our program was

[5:26:37] we didn't have a lot of support

[5:26:39] during that time and where we

[5:26:40] were going to lose our funding

[5:26:42] for our DWI treatment program

[5:26:44] and we had to become we had to

[5:26:46] come before this committee to

[5:26:48] request that the the funds not

[5:26:50] be reverted back to again the

[5:26:52] state so we can continue to try

[5:26:55] to create our program in

[5:26:57] which again Senator Pinto during

[5:26:59] that time representative

[5:27:01] Johnson and all the other

[5:27:02] representatives during that

[5:27:04] timegain assisted us in keeping

[5:27:04] the program

[5:27:07] going and now we earn inn

[5:27:10] fruition again we are again

[5:27:13] thankful for all the support

[5:27:14] that was provided by our

[5:27:16] representatives at this moment

[5:27:18] again we have a during that time

[5:27:19] I had a different

[5:27:23] program manager. her name was

[5:27:24] Chanellle Franklin and

[5:27:26] she went on to of course

[5:27:31] continue her education in the

[5:27:34] in the behavioral health field

[5:27:36] and again we are thankful for

[5:27:38] everything that she's done for

[5:27:39] our program and now we have our

[5:27:42] new program manager here Miss

[5:27:44] Daniel Likety I'm gonna have her

[5:27:45] introduce herself and then

[5:27:47] she'll give us a rundown as to

[5:27:49] again she'll provide us an

[5:27:50] update as to how our program is

[5:27:51] doing Mlikety

[5:27:54] thank you judgedge. good

[5:27:56] afternoon everyone. My name is

[5:27:58] Danielle Lekety. I'm very sorry

[5:28:00] I'm not able to introduce myself

[5:28:02] traditionally. I am a urban

[5:28:02] native.

[5:28:06] my name is Danielleakety. I am

[5:28:08] half Navajo and half Sunni

[5:28:11] and I've lived in Gallup my

[5:28:13] entire life. My dad was from

[5:28:15] Zunni. He born and raised in

[5:28:16] zuni and was sent to rehobus for

[5:28:17] school.

[5:28:20] and he never moved back to Zunni

[5:28:22] so he he stayed in Gallup was

[5:28:25] part of the medical field he

[5:28:26] was an EMT paramedic and

[5:28:27] instructor coordinator for M

[5:28:30] mestar and helped set up the

[5:28:33] EMS system here inallup here

[5:28:34] in Zunni as well as the Navajo

[5:28:37] Nation. He assisted Sa Benito

[5:28:39] with their EMS services setting

[5:28:41] that up. like I said, I've lived

[5:28:43] here for in gallup for my entire

[5:28:45] life born and raised so my

[5:28:47] community means a lot to me and

[5:28:48] this was

[5:28:51] this is meaningful work to me

[5:28:55] so to follow up on Ju what

[5:28:58] Judgeazzie stated we are very

[5:28:59] thankful that this program is

[5:29:02] still up and going and shenel

[5:29:04] did a lot of work just putting

[5:29:05] it together, getting it

[5:29:06] established, getting it off the

[5:29:06] ground

[5:29:10] came in and picked up where she

[5:29:11] left off so I'm very thankful

[5:29:13] for the work that she did before

[5:29:15] me. as Dojazzy said our first

[5:29:17] participant for the program

[5:29:19] was inducted back in November of

[5:29:20] 2022.

[5:29:25] as to date we have graduated16

[5:29:26] of our participants so far.

[5:29:29] total number of participants we

[5:29:31] have served in the program is42.

[5:29:34] so we have had42 participants in

[5:29:36] total since the first induction

[5:29:36] in November of 2022.

[5:29:41] Our current caseload is18. I do

[5:29:43] have17 individuals in person and

[5:29:44] one in extended treatment

[5:29:48] we have had in total 24

[5:29:48] discharges

[5:29:51] seven of these discharges were

[5:29:54] unsuccessful.wo absconded and

[5:29:54] ive were noncompliant.

[5:29:58] There was one neutral discharge

[5:29:58] for medical reasons

[5:30:04] and16 successful discharges. We

[5:30:06] also have 6 participants that

[5:30:08] are scheduled to graduate on

[5:30:10] Monday, September twentyeh

[5:30:11] which will bring our count to

[5:30:16] 3030 discharges but 22

[5:30:16] successful graduations.

[5:30:19] we also

[5:30:23] our recidivism rate our graduate

[5:30:26] recidivism rate for fy 26

[5:30:28] is14.29%. However, I was

[5:30:31] informed by my supervisor

[5:30:32] this afternoon as well that we

[5:30:34] are actually below the national

[5:30:37] average for recidivism which is

[5:30:40] a 28 to35% rate three years

[5:30:43] postgrad. so that was very

[5:30:45] very encouraging to hear you

[5:30:46] know

[5:30:48] so that that's those are our

[5:30:51] current numbers now we will

[5:30:53] be accepting new referrals

[5:30:55] probably at the end of the year.

[5:30:58] with discharging six of these

[5:31:00] participants that does bring my

[5:31:02] caseload down to12. So I try to

[5:31:04] keep it roughly about 20 I think

[5:31:06] my largest caseload was about 21

[5:31:09] or 22 individuals but for me to

[5:31:10] oversee them and supervise them

[5:31:11] on my own that's quite a bit so

[5:31:13] I try to cap it out at 20 but

[5:31:15] the more individuals we can help

[5:31:16] you know that's that's the most

[5:31:17] important thing

[5:31:19] so yes those are those are

[5:31:21] some numbers but just to kind of

[5:31:22] give you an idea of our program

[5:31:25] as well we do have a

[5:31:26] multidisciplinary team which

[5:31:28] consists of the judge she

[5:31:30] oversees the program. I'm the

[5:31:32] program manager and coordinator.

[5:31:35] I also do supervision and

[5:31:37] kinda whatever needs to be done,

[5:31:39] I I will switch my hat as

[5:31:40] necessary. We are currently

[5:31:44] contracted withinsu Behavioral

[5:31:46] Health which is a newer agency

[5:31:49] within the community I

[5:31:51] believe they got started about

[5:31:53] I'm a couple of years ago I

[5:31:54] don't want to give an exact

[5:31:55] date. I may be wrong but yes

[5:31:56] they they have been in the

[5:31:58] community for I want to say

[5:32:01] about5 years or so we were

[5:32:03] previously contracted with our

[5:32:05] Corners or Santa Ferecovery as

[5:32:06] they're now known. we still have

[5:32:08] an MOUis four corners here for

[5:32:11] our inpatient residential so

[5:32:12] we're able to send particip

[5:32:14] ant s that are qualified for

[5:32:16] inpatient here to wind I'm

[5:32:17] sorry here to our corners here

[5:32:20] in Gallup. and still working

[5:32:22] withinsung as well. We also did

[5:32:24] develop an MOU as Ken said

[5:32:27] withhozhouenter for Personal

[5:32:28] Enhancement. So we are

[5:32:33] we are hoping that we can well

[5:32:34] not hoping this is what our plan

[5:32:36] is is we're gonna start to

[5:32:38] incorporate more healing to

[5:32:39] wellness what's called healing

[5:32:40] to wellness and what that is is

[5:32:42] basically traditional healing.

[5:32:45] so we can utilize their

[5:32:46] serviceshozhouenter services

[5:32:49] such as their hoon for any type

[5:32:51] of meetings and also their

[5:32:54] well brady talking circle so

[5:32:56] those are some more options for

[5:32:57] our participants who want to

[5:32:59] stay engaged with traditional

[5:33:00] practices and it also opens

[5:33:03] up the cultural and

[5:33:06] traditional component for those

[5:33:08] individuals who maybe grew up

[5:33:09] without that connection without

[5:33:11] that tie and now they're they're

[5:33:12] looking for something they're

[5:33:14] searching you know for

[5:33:16] spirituality and that's

[5:33:17] another option for them so we

[5:33:19] encourage them to stay connected

[5:33:20] with their traditions and

[5:33:23] developing that MOU withhozi was

[5:33:25] a way for us to do that and

[5:33:27] provide those for our

[5:33:29] participants. we also have an

[5:33:30] alumni support group that I

[5:33:31] would like to highlight because

[5:33:33] I think our alumni support group

[5:33:34] is a very important part of our

[5:33:35] program

[5:33:38] the alumni support group

[5:33:40] consists of graduates of the

[5:33:41] program

[5:33:44] and they they the train

[5:33:46] coordinators we have4 trained

[5:33:47] coordinators so they went

[5:33:49] through the training process to

[5:33:51] become a coordinator learning

[5:33:52] about ethics learning about

[5:33:53] boundaries learning how to

[5:33:55] conduct a group appropriately.

[5:33:57] so we do have4 trained

[5:33:59] coordinators for our program

[5:34:01] to our contracted with the state

[5:34:03] of New Mexico and two are

[5:34:05] pending graduation at after

[5:34:06] graduation they will be

[5:34:07] contracted. So out of those six

[5:34:09] graduates we have on Monday

[5:34:10] two of them are ready to

[5:34:11] contract with the state of New

[5:34:12] Mexico as alumni coordinators

[5:34:16] we hold our alumni support group

[5:34:18] at the courthouse before ourDWI

[5:34:20] treatment court docket. it's an

[5:34:22] hourlong, just basically a

[5:34:24] recovery group something where

[5:34:26] they it I guess it could be

[5:34:28] equated to something similar to

[5:34:30] like a maybe an AA group a

[5:34:32] support group but it's also just

[5:34:33] a safe space for them to

[5:34:36] share and

[5:34:40] just you know kind of reflect on

[5:34:42] things together as a whole.

[5:34:43] Again, these are participants of

[5:34:45] the program both previously and

[5:34:46] current. and this is only for

[5:34:47] our participants of the

[5:34:49] treatment court programme. So I

[5:34:50] always tell the participants you

[5:34:52] know it's a safe place. please

[5:34:55] go and attend if you want to

[5:34:56] vent about the program you want

[5:34:57] to vent about me you know that's

[5:34:58] a safe place it's it's all

[5:35:00] confidential our alumni

[5:35:01] coordinators do keep it

[5:35:03] confidential and are only

[5:35:05] required to for mandated

[5:35:06] reporting so our participants

[5:35:07] have

[5:35:09] really enjoyed that and I

[5:35:11] appreciate our two trained

[5:35:13] coordinators that are contracted

[5:35:15] Tyrone Castillo and Duane

[5:35:18] Chamani. when I came on for this

[5:35:21] program officially came on I

[5:35:22] over I started to oversee the

[5:35:23] program in February of

[5:35:28] 2024 and then started with the

[5:35:29] state of New Mexico became a

[5:35:30] permanent employee in September

[5:35:33] of 2024 as well. So within that

[5:35:35] time I was just overseeing

[5:35:36] the program and working for the

[5:35:37] compliance program with

[5:35:40] McKinley County. once I was

[5:35:42] officially in my position as the

[5:35:43] program manager, the first thing

[5:35:45] that I told my supervisor was I

[5:35:46] want to get the alumni group

[5:35:47] going. We know we need to have

[5:35:48] some support for our

[5:35:51] participants as well. and I

[5:35:52] put the offer out there to our

[5:35:54] previous graduates and

[5:35:55] thankfullyduane and Tyrone did

[5:35:57] step up and you know offered to

[5:35:58] help me so they've been employed

[5:35:59] with the state probably just as

[5:36:02] long as I have but I I have a

[5:36:04] deep appreciation for them

[5:36:06] Tyrone in the meantime has

[5:36:06] advanced his education

[5:36:10] and is enrolled with the UNM and

[5:36:13] looking to pursue a career in

[5:36:14] the behavioral health field as

[5:36:16] well he's doing great things and

[5:36:18] working with peer peer

[5:36:20] members from thehozhou uhenter

[5:36:23] as well and thenduanne is also

[5:36:24] our

[5:36:26] our other coordinator he is from

[5:36:29] Zunni as well and he stays in

[5:36:31] contact with celebrate recovery

[5:36:32] and you know kind of keeps the

[5:36:34] recovery group going within the

[5:36:36] unique community and our our

[5:36:38] community here within Gallup and

[5:36:39] then also being a part of our

[5:36:40] alumni group as well. So I'm

[5:36:42] very thankful for these

[5:36:44] individuals and I think peer

[5:36:45] support is you know the other

[5:36:47] half of what makes our program

[5:36:49] work. being able to have peers

[5:36:51] available for our participants

[5:36:52] that understand what they're

[5:36:53] going through, understand how

[5:36:54] difficult the

[5:36:57] program can be and but they

[5:36:59] can say they did it you know

[5:37:00] they made it they struggled

[5:37:02] through it so whatever support

[5:37:03] they and motivation they can

[5:37:05] offer our participants we we

[5:37:06] extremely are appreciative of it

[5:37:12] and then like I said just a it's

[5:37:14] just a kind of a rundown of how

[5:37:16] our how our program works I'm

[5:37:17] not sure if you all are you know

[5:37:19] familiar with treatment courts

[5:37:20] but we do have a

[5:37:22] multidisciplinary team that

[5:37:22] consists of the

[5:37:26] the judge myself probation

[5:37:28] officers from the compliance

[5:37:30] program our treatment providers

[5:37:32] as well as we have a

[5:37:34] contracted defense counsel for

[5:37:36] our for our participants. So our

[5:37:39] defense counsel is our go to for

[5:37:40] our participants if there's any

[5:37:42] noncompliance, if there's you

[5:37:43] know any kind of questions,

[5:37:45] anything like that our defense

[5:37:47] counsel makes sure that we're

[5:37:49] abiding by all legal proceedings

[5:37:51] and you know not violating

[5:37:52] anybody's rights so they are the

[5:37:52] advocate for our participants

[5:37:53] and our participant

[5:37:56] s know that and they will call

[5:37:59] her they you know we've we're

[5:38:00] going through a transition right

[5:38:02] now and there was some issues

[5:38:04] regarding UAs and of course you

[5:38:06] know you a's are always gonna

[5:38:08] make our participants nervous

[5:38:10] you know if there may be like

[5:38:11] false positives or whatever so

[5:38:13] they contacted their defense

[5:38:15] counsel but this was a great

[5:38:16] illustration of our

[5:38:17] participant's learning to

[5:38:19] advocate for themselves. so that

[5:38:22] was a great way for us to say

[5:38:22] you know you're doing what

[5:38:23] you're supposed to be doing and

[5:38:23] and they

[5:38:25] ' re you know they're being

[5:38:27] heard and somebody is advocating

[5:38:28] for them and some of these

[5:38:28] things are

[5:38:33] are participants have never had

[5:38:35] to do this before or they may be

[5:38:37] scared they may not know how to

[5:38:38] go about it. They just kind of

[5:38:39] roll with the punches they've

[5:38:40] been in the legal system for so

[5:38:42] long they just do what they're

[5:38:43] told but so we're we're showing

[5:38:45] them to advocate for themselves

[5:38:46] and then to touch a little bit

[5:38:48] on a life skills that Ken was

[5:38:50] talking about. We do have

[5:38:51] certain curriculums that they

[5:38:52] are required to

[5:38:56] complete the treatment component

[5:38:57] is through the entirety of the

[5:38:59] program so as soon as we get

[5:39:01] them in they're going for IopP

[5:39:02] which is intensive outpatient a

[5:39:05] 90da program. Once they complete

[5:39:07] that they step down to what is

[5:39:09] called moral recognition therapy

[5:39:11] and that is where we see the

[5:39:14] change happening and it is it

[5:39:16] it'si do not have the words for

[5:39:18] it. I have been meeting with our

[5:39:20] graduates today and tomorrow

[5:39:21] I will be meeting with our ix

[5:39:22] graduates for their final

[5:39:23] check-ins

[5:39:26] and I met with three today and

[5:39:26] it was very emotional

[5:39:28] just to see

[5:39:31] the person who sat in front of

[5:39:33] me when I sold them on the on

[5:39:35] the program and screened them

[5:39:37] and told them hey you qualify

[5:39:38] you know do you want to take

[5:39:40] this opportunity versus who I

[5:39:42] see sitting in front of me. for

[5:39:43] example one of my participants

[5:39:45] my female participants came in

[5:39:47] and I had her on probation at

[5:39:48] compliance so she kind of

[5:39:50] followed me over. I knew her

[5:39:53] backstory. I knew there was

[5:39:54] noncompliance and what the

[5:39:55] issues were you know housing

[5:39:56] environment stuff like that she

[5:39:57] was in a bad environment

[5:40:00] now

[5:40:03] I met with her today and I was

[5:40:05] so happy just that that was my

[5:40:07] first checkin today and it was

[5:40:09] very emotional for many reasons.

[5:40:11] Within this program she has

[5:40:13] obtained her own housing. She

[5:40:15] has moved out from living with

[5:40:17] her family, which was the toxic

[5:40:18] environment and she was able to

[5:40:21] obtain housing on her own not

[5:40:22] just one apartment she found an

[5:40:24] apartment you know wasn't the

[5:40:25] right place for her, didn't work

[5:40:28] out for her finances and she

[5:40:29] found another apartment and just

[5:40:30] continued to motivate herself

[5:40:32] and following up on these

[5:40:34] applications and so she's where

[5:40:36] she needs to be in a good

[5:40:37] environment a nice neighborhood,

[5:40:40] safe house, she does have

[5:40:42] custody of one of her daughters

[5:40:43] and is working on regaining

[5:40:45] custody of the other daughter.

[5:40:47] She told me today that she is

[5:40:49] has the younger daughter who she

[5:40:50] does not have custody of.

[5:40:51] she's able to bring her over on

[5:40:53] the weekends and she's

[5:40:55] planning on keeping her for the

[5:40:57] fall break and just working up

[5:40:59] to eventually petitioning for

[5:41:00] custody again. so very proud of

[5:41:00] her but

[5:41:02] like I said to see the

[5:41:04] individual who sat in who sat in

[5:41:05] front of me this morning who

[5:41:07] sits who who sits in front of me

[5:41:09] you know big change, major

[5:41:12] life changes attitude and that's

[5:41:14] one thing I think we can all say

[5:41:17] we we don't like to be told hey

[5:41:19] you've got an attitude you know

[5:41:20] don't be like that but these are

[5:41:22] things we have to tell our

[5:41:24] participants because it's a it's

[5:41:26] a whole change you know full

[5:41:29] circle so and they get it they

[5:41:30] really do get it and I think

[5:41:30] that moral recognition the

[5:41:32] ra p y does help just to

[5:41:36] encourage accountability and

[5:41:38] that's one of the biggest things

[5:41:39] that helps them is just being

[5:41:42] able to say yes I did that. I'm

[5:41:44] sorry let's make amends and

[5:41:46] let's move on from it and that's

[5:41:47] what moral recognition therapy

[5:41:48] does a lot with their family as

[5:41:50] well so we're seeing

[5:41:52] relationships being rebuilt with

[5:41:54] the family with the kids you

[5:41:56] know and these are trust is lost

[5:41:57] you know so that's a hard thing

[5:41:59] to regain that trust with your

[5:42:00] family but also with your

[5:42:02] children and this participant

[5:42:02] did tell me this morning

[5:42:06] I had a moment of realization

[5:42:08] this weekend of course because

[5:42:09] there was the blackout you know

[5:42:11] we had no utilities for quite a

[5:42:12] while so she was sitting there

[5:42:14] and she said my girls had a

[5:42:15] little dance party in the living

[5:42:16] room. they brought out their

[5:42:17] glow sticks. they brought out

[5:42:18] their little lights they had the

[5:42:20] the phone going you know so they

[5:42:21] had a little dance party she

[5:42:22] goes and I took a step back

[5:42:23] and

[5:42:26] I just she goes it was just like

[5:42:28] one of those being in the moment

[5:42:30] moments where she was in her own

[5:42:32] place at her kitchen table. herr

[5:42:34] girls were here with her and

[5:42:37] they were safe and what got me

[5:42:38] what got me right in the heart

[5:42:39] was she said and my girls knew

[5:42:40] they were safe.

[5:42:44] intoxicated they didn't have to

[5:42:46] worry about mom and they weren't

[5:42:48] there taking care of each other

[5:42:50] because I was not in the right

[5:42:51] state of mind. Oh it it makes me

[5:42:53] emotional now but you know to

[5:42:54] hear her say that was like

[5:42:58] wow I have no other words for it

[5:43:00] than wow you know and I I just

[5:43:02] told her I wish I had all the

[5:43:04] words in the world to tell you

[5:43:06] how proud of you I am and one

[5:43:08] thing I do tell them is there's

[5:43:10] a lot life is hard we all know

[5:43:12] life is hard. This may be the

[5:43:13] hardest thing you've done in

[5:43:14] your life and if it is

[5:43:15] congratulations you did it

[5:43:19] You are doing it so don't ever

[5:43:21] doubt yourself and know that you

[5:43:22] can do hard things in life you

[5:43:24] know it's just about asking for

[5:43:26] help and finding the right

[5:43:28] people to support you and I

[5:43:30] think that's where our team

[5:43:32] comes in, our empathy and our

[5:43:34] compassion from the judge from

[5:43:35] myself, from our

[5:43:37] multidisciplinary team and most

[5:43:39] s most especially from our peers

[5:43:49] Well and again that was a big

[5:43:51] rundown but ok

[5:43:53] but I'm glad again that Danielle

[5:43:55] shared with us again our success

[5:43:57] in our program. We again

[5:43:58] treatment works

[5:44:01] if you listen if you believe you

[5:44:03] have empathy and compassion for

[5:44:05] your community right now again

[5:44:06] our

[5:44:10] participants were100% Native

[5:44:11] American. they're all DWI

[5:44:12] related

[5:44:15] everyone who's in our program

[5:44:18] again it's all related to DWI so

[5:44:20] again we're doing our best again

[5:44:22] and we have we have had two

[5:44:24] gentlemen who've asked me to

[5:44:26] throw them in jail put them in

[5:44:28] jail and I told him I'm not

[5:44:30] giving up on you I'm not gonna

[5:44:31] give you that leeway and I'm not

[5:44:32] gonna place you in custody

[5:44:33] you're gonna finish this program

[5:44:35] so what now the when she

[5:44:37] mentioned Mr Tyrone Castillo

[5:44:39] who's now our alumni

[5:44:41] coordinator. thanks me everyday

[5:44:42] almost every every time we have

[5:44:43] our

[5:44:45] our our session that he's very

[5:44:47] thankful because he's on the

[5:44:48] right path and he's becoming

[5:44:48] successful

[5:44:52] again and he was one of those

[5:44:54] gentleman again who I guess you

[5:44:55] would see out on the street who

[5:44:56] was like thuglike I guess you

[5:44:58] could say that he would have a

[5:45:02] thug life and a gangster but he

[5:45:04] phased out of it and now he's

[5:45:05] become a man and he's become a

[5:45:07] better man man for himself and

[5:45:08] his mother so

[5:45:10] that was a successful story for

[5:45:14] us again and his mom he she came

[5:45:16] to the graduation and she was

[5:45:17] very grateful to see her son

[5:45:18] again

[5:45:23] and she she shed some tears

[5:45:25] and very she was very emotional

[5:45:27] with who she saw and then of

[5:45:28] course we'd had an emotional

[5:45:30] other graduates who had their

[5:45:31] parents come through and again

[5:45:33] those stories are emotional as

[5:45:36] well so again treatment works

[5:45:38] but again you have to believe

[5:45:41] and again leadership have to

[5:45:42] believe as well

[5:45:43] people can change

[5:45:47] again and this is our community

[5:45:49] and we want to make our

[5:45:51] community better we want to heal

[5:45:53] our young kids that are walking

[5:45:54] the streets and again

[5:45:58] older older again older

[5:45:59] generation as well who

[5:46:01] experienced again childhood

[5:46:06] trauma again historical

[5:46:08] trauma and that's where we stand

[5:46:09] with this program and

[5:46:13] we're very thankful for what

[5:46:14] we've accomplished right now in

[5:46:16] this program and we're thankful

[5:46:18] for the support of you all again

[5:46:20] as leaderships as well and again

[5:46:22] we want to continue we want your

[5:46:24] continued support again from us

[5:46:26] that's all we're asking of

[5:46:27] course to give you updates and

[5:46:28] again your support that's about

[5:46:30] it so again we appreciate the

[5:46:33] invitation and I hope again you

[5:46:34] again you're satisfied with the

[5:46:35] update and we're again we're

[5:46:36] gonna continue to do our work

[5:46:39] we appreciate the invitation.

[5:46:40] thank you.

[5:46:41] thank you and question

[5:46:45] so our new member

[5:46:54] I think for our new members

[5:46:56] this has been something we've

[5:46:58] worked on with Judge Yazley

[5:47:00] to them coming forward with

[5:47:03] Chanel and just really hearing

[5:47:04] the program and how they

[5:47:07] developed it to really meet the

[5:47:09] needs of those that were I mean

[5:47:11] there's some restrictions on it

[5:47:12] because they knew like

[5:47:13] how far away will they

[5:47:18] that they weren't setting them

[5:47:19] up for failure and all those

[5:47:20] things

[5:47:26] mention it but it was really

[5:47:28] eye opening because some people

[5:47:28] think oh we just

[5:47:32] and I do have some questions

[5:47:34] that will lead us into certain

[5:47:37] things but very grateful for

[5:47:38] for that development and all

[5:47:39] those considerations given

[5:47:44] you said set them up for failure

[5:47:46] in some sense it was really

[5:47:47] about getting them through and

[5:47:48] really

[5:47:54] Through the programpresentative

[5:47:54] Garcia

[5:48:04] my question is in regards to

[5:48:06] your pamphlet says that you

[5:48:08] must be a resident of new

[5:48:08] McKinley County.

[5:48:10] and

[5:48:14] I'm not sure which court it was

[5:48:16] but

[5:48:20] this past week I got a notice

[5:48:22] from a young lady not wanting a

[5:48:23] letter stating that

[5:48:28] I guess the probation officer

[5:48:28] wanted

[5:48:32] a letter fromRaymond Apo chapter

[5:48:35] to allow them to come on to our

[5:48:38] community to visit the lady

[5:48:40] week on a weekly basis and maybe

[5:48:41] even two times a week and

[5:48:46] she said that the judge that

[5:48:49] made the made the order and

[5:48:51] gave it to the probation officer

[5:48:54] whatever communication that

[5:48:57] was made was not clearly

[5:49:00] explained to her except that

[5:49:02] you're not you are now on

[5:49:04] probation and therefore you will

[5:49:06] be coming in but since she lives

[5:49:10] inibla County they said

[5:49:12] the probation officer will be

[5:49:12] going out there to visit

[5:49:14] with her and

[5:49:18] she wanted to know if it was

[5:49:21] possible to have someone

[5:49:23] fromiblela County as a probation

[5:49:24] officer to come out because that

[5:49:27] would be closer for her or for

[5:49:28] her to go in and visit or for

[5:49:30] that person to come and visit

[5:49:32] her so that was a situation I

[5:49:34] came upon this past week and I

[5:49:36] did write a letter saying that

[5:49:38] it was ok for the probation

[5:49:40] officer to becoming and be

[5:49:43] visiting with her but beyond

[5:49:44] that that was the question that

[5:49:45] she had asked

[5:49:46] could you said

[5:49:49] the judge

[5:49:53] but she wants to transfer to

[5:49:56] McKinley County probably it's

[5:49:56] from McKinleyelunty judge

[5:50:01] and the probation officers in is

[5:50:03] in Mcinley County. Now she wants

[5:50:04] to know if she could have the

[5:50:06] probation officer fromiela

[5:50:07] County come out because that was

[5:50:08] closer.

[5:50:10] thank youpresentative Garcia

[5:50:15] again probation we don't

[5:50:16] controlled with probation again

[5:50:18] first of all we don't have

[5:50:20] jurisdiction inRama because

[5:50:22] again that's a Navajo nation and

[5:50:25] that's what we always address is

[5:50:27] the issue again again cross

[5:50:30] jurisdiction in order for us to

[5:50:32] cross over to the reservation we

[5:50:35] need to get an MOU from the

[5:50:36] nation so we're still working on

[5:50:39] again getting that approval from

[5:50:41] the nation but as for probation

[5:50:43] that's a probation question

[5:50:45] again for whoever that that

[5:50:46] individual would be would need

[5:50:47] to get approval from McKinley

[5:50:48] County probation.

[5:50:51] and from there they can work

[5:50:53] with one another to transfer to

[5:50:54] Sabula County but that's out of

[5:50:56] my again that's out of my hands

[5:50:56] that's probation

[5:51:00] as for your other question the

[5:51:02] order by a judge again I don't

[5:51:04] know who the judge is I don't

[5:51:04] yeah I don't do

[5:51:08] I I I know where I stand and I

[5:51:09] know I don't I don't try to

[5:51:10] cross those boundaries as well

[5:51:12] so I know where my jurisdiction

[5:51:15] lies and it's not on the

[5:51:17] reservation right now even

[5:51:18] though I live on the reservation

[5:51:22] so but with that being said

[5:51:24] and then your question regarding

[5:51:25] the pamphlet indicating

[5:51:27] McKinley County residents that's

[5:51:30] a typogain it's anyone who

[5:51:32] receives an infraction within

[5:51:33] McKinney County because we have

[5:51:34] individuals from arizona I

[5:51:36] think we have one

[5:51:39] that comes in from Arizona fort

[5:51:41] defiance to take part in our

[5:51:43] program. It's a 40 mile radius

[5:51:46] is what we're again who we

[5:51:49] try to get into our program

[5:51:50] because everyone outside the

[5:51:52] outskirts of40 miles we're

[5:51:54] setting them up for failure

[5:51:56] because we know transportation

[5:51:58] is an issue here in McKinley

[5:51:59] County because again the poverty

[5:52:02] rate again we we take that into

[5:52:04] consideration as well so we try

[5:52:05] to only take individuals who we

[5:52:06] think can

[5:52:09] complete the program and be s

[5:52:11] successful although we want to

[5:52:14] reach everybody out there it's

[5:52:14] kind of we don't want to set

[5:52:16] them up for failure where

[5:52:17] there's a lot of things we take

[5:52:18] into consideration in

[5:52:18] transportation is one of them

[5:52:22] and again there are other

[5:52:24] factors we also take into

[5:52:25] consideration they can't be they

[5:52:27] can't have violent offenses as

[5:52:29] well they can't have a felony

[5:52:31] and again we only address 2nd

[5:52:34] and 3rd offense DWIs so again

[5:52:34] thank you for that question

[5:52:35] madam Garcia.

[5:52:40] madam chairir thank you too

[5:52:42] for that answer we are about

[5:52:42] oh

[5:52:45] to the chapter it's about 60

[5:52:48] miles so I think we're outside

[5:52:53] of that 60 or40 mile but

[5:52:54] transportation would be an issue

[5:52:54] for her

[5:52:57] she was wonderering the streets

[5:53:00] over here and got caught for DWi

[5:53:03] and that that was the reason why

[5:53:05] she said that she had to get

[5:53:07] on probation with I don't know

[5:53:09] which court it was I didn't get

[5:53:10] all that information

[5:53:13] so all I did was write the

[5:53:15] letter to the probation officer.

[5:53:16] OK, thank you.

[5:53:18] thank youpresentative

[5:53:18] Representative Johnson.

[5:53:22] thank you madam chair

[5:53:27] my question is, I guess it would

[5:53:28] be depending

[5:53:32] participants or a number of

[5:53:35] workload, but what is the wait

[5:53:36] time or the service timeline

[5:53:39] for an individual to have

[5:53:43] outpatient treatment or

[5:53:44] treatment

[5:53:47] DWI

[5:53:54] After littleBI once they oh

[5:53:56] sorry madam chair or

[5:53:58] madampresentative Johnson thank

[5:54:00] you for that question the

[5:54:01] timeline again once we

[5:54:05] if they want to be a part of the

[5:54:06] DWI treatment program and

[5:54:08] referred to the because a lot of

[5:54:09] people want to avoid the

[5:54:11] thirtyday jail sentence or the40

[5:54:13] mandatory jail term so they want

[5:54:15] to stay out of jail they'll

[5:54:17] request a see if they can

[5:54:18] they're eligible for our our

[5:54:19] treatment program

[5:54:22] so what we do is right when

[5:54:24] we're about to sentence an

[5:54:25] individual or what when I'm

[5:54:27] about to sentence an individual

[5:54:30] I send them to Danielle she

[5:54:31] again assesses them she keeps

[5:54:32] completes their assessment

[5:54:34] oncece she knows that if there

[5:54:35] again once we know that they're

[5:54:38] eligible then I'll sentence them

[5:54:40] to the program and from there

[5:54:41] Danielle does the legwork and

[5:54:42] she'll tell you what she does

[5:54:43] after that go ahead Danielle

[5:54:46] thank you judgedge Ezzie so

[5:54:46] as Judge aszzie said

[5:54:51] they'll she'll contact me to

[5:54:52] do a what's called a screening

[5:54:55] I think with our current

[5:54:57] participants the majority of

[5:54:59] them were either there in person

[5:55:01] where it was convenient for me

[5:55:02] to just step out of my office

[5:55:04] and I screen them right, you

[5:55:05] know right then and there.

[5:55:07] and I was able to report back to

[5:55:09] the court immediately whether

[5:55:12] they were eligible or not. we

[5:55:14] use what is called the DY rant

[5:55:18] and I'm sorry I wish I wish I

[5:55:18] could tell you what those what

[5:55:20] those acronyms are for but the

[5:55:21] the screener is called the

[5:55:25] DUI rant and it gauges the level

[5:55:29] of risk as well as the need

[5:55:30] for treatment so what we call

[5:55:32] highris high need. Highri

[5:55:34] meaning they are at a high risk

[5:55:36] of reoffending. high need

[5:55:37] meaning that they have a

[5:55:39] moderate to severe substance use

[5:55:41] issue. Substance also including

[5:55:44] alcohol so as judge said I

[5:55:44] will screen them once they

[5:55:45] qualify I

[5:55:48] let the courts know and she

[5:55:50] proceeds with sentencing after

[5:55:51] they are sentenced, they come

[5:55:53] and see me immediately at

[5:55:55] which time I scheduled their

[5:55:57] induction into the program and

[5:55:59] they are also sent to our

[5:56:00] treatment

[5:56:03] treatment agency which was Santa

[5:56:04] Ferecovery at the time so they

[5:56:06] would be sent to Santa Fe

[5:56:08] recovery to schedule an intake

[5:56:10] with their treatment providers

[5:56:11] get all of their screenings and

[5:56:13] assessments done and it is

[5:56:14] within our contract with our

[5:56:16] treatment providers that are

[5:56:19] participants be expedited

[5:56:21] that their services be expedited

[5:56:23] so it is within the contract

[5:56:24] that from the date of referral

[5:56:27] with the treatment providers

[5:56:29] they have5 business days to get

[5:56:30] them assessed and get

[5:56:33] them into treatment so to answer

[5:56:34] your question it would be

[5:56:36] roughly a five business day

[5:56:38] wait. OK after induction. not

[5:56:39] after sentencing but after

[5:56:41] induction. yeah usually you know

[5:56:42] after sentencing but if you you

[5:56:44] count the weekends and whatnot.

[5:56:46] so we get them in right away

[5:56:46] and

[5:56:50] and the so we get them in

[5:56:51] with the treatment providers

[5:56:53] right away. they more than

[5:56:55] likely are also placed on an

[5:56:57] alcohol monitoring device so

[5:56:59] just to we we start that

[5:57:01] sobriety the day of you know so

[5:57:03] really encouraging but we

[5:57:04] also know that you know it's

[5:57:05] it's difficult. not all of our

[5:57:07] participants come in with

[5:57:09] complete sobriety. some of them

[5:57:11] have stopped drinking after the

[5:57:13] incident after their arrest and

[5:57:14] just waiting to go to

[5:57:16] sentencing it is part of their

[5:57:16] conditions of release as well to

[5:57:17] not

[5:57:19] to abstain from alcohol. So

[5:57:21] some of them do come in with

[5:57:22] some sobriety. and there's

[5:57:24] also others that come in and

[5:57:26] it's day one of sobriety for

[5:57:28] them so we are we're working

[5:57:30] from you know from the bottom

[5:57:32] and working up and just

[5:57:34] encouraging them to to maintain

[5:57:35] that sobriety for the first

[5:57:36] couple of days for the first

[5:57:37] couple of weeks you know and

[5:57:39] then so forth but yes it it's a

[5:57:40] very short wait for our

[5:57:41] treatment intake.

[5:57:51] the five days who said that

[5:57:58] to say this is you got to do

[5:58:00] this within5 days it's on the

[5:58:02] within the contract yeah within

[5:58:04] our contract they have to get

[5:58:06] into treatment and then from

[5:58:07] there yes just as as again

[5:58:08] Mleaketty mentioned it's

[5:58:10] difficult some some of them is

[5:58:11] day one but with the scram

[5:58:13] bracelet we continue to monitor

[5:58:15] them and we know return to use

[5:58:18] is gonna be again it's gonna be

[5:58:21] a continued issue until they

[5:58:23] have to be in sobriety for 90

[5:58:24] days for them to face to the

[5:58:25] next phase so if they

[5:58:28] continue to use again I have

[5:58:29] again just like I said the

[5:58:30] gentleman I've had two gentlemen

[5:58:30] who again

[5:58:35] continue to use weekly weekly

[5:58:37] and again we kept addressing

[5:58:39] them addressing them finally I

[5:58:40] don't know I don't know if they

[5:58:43] had an epiphany but again they

[5:58:45] came back on the right track

[5:58:46] again and we have another

[5:58:47] individual who's like Mr

[5:58:50] Castillo who was fighting the

[5:58:52] court constantly intoxicated

[5:58:53] coming to court and we tell them

[5:58:54] no you need to leave that's a

[5:58:56] trigger for our participants we

[5:58:59] cannot have you here so we

[5:59:00] again make him leave our session

[5:59:04] but we bring him back to address

[5:59:06] him tell him this is not going

[5:59:08] to be a continued issue. We

[5:59:10] increase his treatment again we

[5:59:11] sent him back for a reassessment

[5:59:13] what is going on what trauma,

[5:59:15] what is why are you continuing

[5:59:16] to reuse return to use so

[5:59:21] we finally got it situated. He's

[5:59:23] on the right track. he's going

[5:59:24] back to school

[5:59:25] and he knows what

[5:59:31] So the device what did you call

[5:59:32] it a scram bracelet scram

[5:59:34] bracelet? It detects alcohol

[5:59:34] through their skin

[5:59:36] yeah

[5:59:37] how much does that cost

[5:59:43] for a device that is in the it's

[5:59:46] in the for a device maybe it's

[5:59:49] pretty expensive it's about it

[5:59:51] depends on how many we have

[5:59:54] monitored but I I would like

[5:59:56] to say ballpark anywhere

[5:59:59] from1000 to1,500 you know per

[6:00:01] month. So I am exploring other

[6:00:02] options we've been to some

[6:00:04] conferences recently where they

[6:00:06] are actually that technology is

[6:00:08] advancing as well we have

[6:00:09] well some companies have

[6:00:12] GPS trackers and alcohol

[6:00:14] monitors that are about the size

[6:00:16] of the Apple watches or like the

[6:00:18] android watches so very much

[6:00:20] more convenient rather than a

[6:00:22] big device probably as as big as

[6:00:24] my phone you know strapped to

[6:00:26] your leg so the scram bracelet

[6:00:28] it as judge said it detects

[6:00:31] alcohol by taking a sample of

[6:00:32] your pores from the sweat from

[6:00:34] your pores so there's a screen

[6:00:35] on the device that has to stay

[6:00:37] in close contact with the skin

[6:00:38] and then we also have to be

[6:00:39] mindful and tell our

[6:00:40] participants

[6:00:42] don't be using any products

[6:00:44] that contain alcohol and that

[6:00:46] could be cologne and body spray.

[6:00:49] so they start to learn you know

[6:00:51] all the different stuff that we

[6:00:52] use everyday that contains

[6:00:54] alcohol and it's a it's a it's

[6:00:56] an eye opener but to answer your

[6:00:58] other question as far as that

[6:00:59] requirement of the five days, I

[6:01:00] believe that comes from the New

[6:01:01] Mexicoreatment court standards.

[6:01:13] making them wait I again I do

[6:01:16] want to mention we do we did

[6:01:17] have a delay for one of our

[6:01:18] veterans again we had two

[6:01:22] veterans one graduated again he

[6:01:23] successfully working again

[6:01:25] but we have one veteran again

[6:01:26] who who does have PTI

[6:01:32] again working with him was a

[6:01:36] challenge but again we also

[6:01:39] kept them in the program we he's

[6:01:41] actually being successful right

[6:01:42] now and he's being compliant

[6:01:45] from the beginning he was again

[6:01:47] returning to use and we sent him

[6:01:49] to treatment we held them in

[6:01:51] custody and we're waiting for

[6:01:53] veterans to get back to us the

[6:01:56] veterans program the VSo via the

[6:01:56] BA

[6:02:01] Danielle can share that with

[6:02:02] you but again I would yeah it

[6:02:04] would his his case was time

[6:02:06] consuming only because we were

[6:02:07] waiting for

[6:02:11] the VO to get him into get

[6:02:14] screened and find out if he can

[6:02:15] take part in that treatment that

[6:02:17] was the issue that we were

[6:02:20] having so since then we've kind

[6:02:22] of shied away from that and

[6:02:24] we're kind of just utilizing our

[6:02:25] own treatment provider but we

[6:02:26] were trying to do what was best

[6:02:27] for him

[6:02:29] again and trying to send him

[6:02:31] send him back to the VA to get

[6:02:33] that treatment so he stays

[6:02:34] within the program and they

[6:02:36] report to us but again I'll let

[6:02:38] Danielle share that that that

[6:02:39] information with you

[6:02:42] thank you Judgeyzzie. Yes, so we

[6:02:45] do have as Joelzy said we've

[6:02:47] had two veteran participants one

[6:02:49] previously and one current.

[6:02:50] this current veteran I've worked

[6:02:53] with since compliance and again

[6:02:54] he kind of followed me over so

[6:02:57] I've seen him make tremendous

[6:02:59] progress from an individual that

[6:03:02] was very reserved very you

[6:03:05] know not easily trusting of

[6:03:06] everybody which is completely

[6:03:08] understandable but very very

[6:03:08] respectful, very very compliant.

[6:03:11] this individual does have a lot

[6:03:14] of trauma. we did get in

[6:03:16] contact with veterans justice

[6:03:18] outreach which is the VJO they

[6:03:20] are the outreach component of

[6:03:23] the veterans veteran system

[6:03:25] to help justice involved

[6:03:27] individuals. So making that

[6:03:29] connection with the VJO also

[6:03:30] opened up doors for compliance,

[6:03:32] the compliance program as well

[6:03:34] to know that these are resources

[6:03:36] available for their clients as

[6:03:37] well that are just on regular

[6:03:38] misdemeanor probation. so our

[6:03:39] partic

[6:03:42] ip ant did receive services

[6:03:44] after a while with the veterans

[6:03:46] with with the veterans clinic

[6:03:50] and was receiving individual

[6:03:51] services as well as group

[6:03:53] services however they were

[6:03:55] virtual and we didn't really

[6:03:56] feel that it was working

[6:03:58] virtually. so we were able to

[6:04:01] get him in with We song and

[6:04:02] their clinical supervisor is

[6:04:05] actually works with the

[6:04:07] eterans department. I'm not sure

[6:04:08] if he is a veteran himself. I I

[6:04:09] believe he is

[6:04:12] so that's that's helpful as

[6:04:14] well. He also works with the VA

[6:04:17] here in Gallup. so the VA is

[6:04:18] very tricky to work with. they

[6:04:20] will not talk to me. they will

[6:04:21] not contact mething is through

[6:04:23] the veteran so the veteran has

[6:04:25] to be very accountable if I need

[6:04:26] progress reports, I will have to

[6:04:28] ask the veteran will you

[6:04:30] contact your provider and get a

[6:04:31] letter of your updates or your

[6:04:33] status right now so he's he's

[6:04:34] very compliant so he'll be able

[6:04:38] to do that so this individual

[6:04:38] is receiving services at Winsong

[6:04:43] working with their veteran

[6:04:45] clinical supervisor and he is

[6:04:47] still also involved with the

[6:04:48] veterans clinic out in

[6:04:50] Albuquerque. He still meets with

[6:04:53] his provider there and then

[6:04:54] attends what's called a relapse

[6:04:56] prevention group weekly. So he

[6:04:57] keeps himself busy and

[6:05:00] we also keep in contact with the

[6:05:02] VA as well just you know making

[6:05:04] sure that everybody is all on

[6:05:06] the same page as far as his

[6:05:07] progress in any updates that we

[6:05:08] need.

[6:05:11] but that's that's our

[6:05:12] relationship working

[6:05:13] relationship with the veterans

[6:05:15] department as well and their

[6:05:16] veteran justice outreach

[6:05:21] but yes that that is and then

[6:05:22] just don't like I said opening

[6:05:23] up those doors what resources we

[6:05:25] can get from the VJO and from

[6:05:27] the veterans department. I

[6:05:28] also share with compliance and

[6:05:30] we've got a little what I call

[6:05:31] resource board up there in the

[6:05:33] courthouse that has

[6:05:34] information such as

[6:05:37] contact information for the

[6:05:40] VJO any kind of treatment

[6:05:42] services recovery support groups

[6:05:44] whatever kind of resources I

[6:05:46] can put up there for people that

[6:05:48] are post adjudication

[6:05:49] preadjudication whatever helps I

[6:05:51] put it up there. The more

[6:05:52] resources I can get out there

[6:05:52] the better.

[6:05:55] thank you and that with the

[6:05:56] benefits because we don't have

[6:06:05] No, there is no veterans court

[6:06:06] currently.

[6:06:09] so one of the things too I've

[6:06:11] been not combined need to

[6:06:12] explore is the

[6:06:21] but I think it seemed to be a

[6:06:24] lot more efficient as far as

[6:06:25] making sure there was not

[6:06:27] duplicate services and that you

[6:06:28] did not have to

[6:06:31] post it on your board but that

[6:06:34] you put a referral out and then

[6:06:36] whoever can meet the needs if

[6:06:37] it's something that needs to be

[6:06:39] immediate or something specific

[6:06:42] or if it's a veteran that it

[6:06:43] that's where it goes and they're

[6:06:46] able to with that those

[6:06:48] resources they're they're

[6:06:50] contracted with us and they we

[6:06:52] become the in some sense more

[6:06:53] accountable to doing what they

[6:06:54] need to do

[6:06:58] don't know how I'm gonna move

[6:07:00] that forwardda because it's we

[6:07:01] got a lot going on here in New

[6:07:02] Mexico

[6:07:05] and I think that's the only

[6:07:06] thing I think that's probably is

[6:07:07] that the only

[6:07:10] in a way barrier or something

[6:07:11] that needs to be worked on is

[6:07:12] with our veter

[6:07:22] we're sorry I believe I believe

[6:07:24] that was the only issue we had

[6:07:26] again was getting our vet our

[6:07:28] veteran into treatment again

[6:07:32] services from BBJO or VSO

[6:07:33] other than that again like I

[6:07:35] said it was frustrating from the

[6:07:36] beginning for him because again

[6:07:37] I didn't want to keep him in

[6:07:39] custody as well and we we kept

[6:07:41] them in there for almost an

[6:07:43] entire month just before he was

[6:07:44] able to obtain some type of

[6:07:45] service and before we were able

[6:07:46] to release him

[6:07:50] but in the end again he's

[6:07:51] doing very well and he's

[6:07:53] compliant like she said she he's

[6:07:54] very respectful and

[6:07:57] and of course the warden he

[6:07:58] really respects the warden

[6:08:00] because he's also a veteran as

[6:08:02] well so our warden again was our

[6:08:04] our program manager as well at

[6:08:07] one point for McKinley County so

[6:08:08] he knows the the the

[6:08:10] participants so he can again

[6:08:14] I guess encourage and mentor

[6:08:17] again the participant as well so

[6:08:18] it it's it's it's it's it was

[6:08:21] it worked out for the best

[6:08:22] because again the warden was

[6:08:23] able to speak with our

[6:08:26] participant and again that's how

[6:08:28] he was able to maintain again as

[6:08:32] well any traumas or any yeah

[6:08:32] whatever

[6:08:35] disorder he was going through

[6:08:36] and don't I don't know how to

[6:08:40] say it but yeah but yeah but in

[6:08:40] the end

[6:08:43] I don't believe we we don't we

[6:08:46] haven't stumbled upon any any

[6:08:48] barriers at this moment again of

[6:08:49] course just the same issues

[6:08:52] housing transportation for

[6:08:54] our participants other than that

[6:08:55] again just the same resources

[6:08:57] that everybody else is having to

[6:09:00] deal with where we're still

[6:09:02] hinders our program but in the

[6:09:04] end again I'm just thankful

[6:09:06] again our DA it's now all for

[6:09:06] treatment as well

[6:09:11] again so again he's sending

[6:09:14] again anyone who's again being

[6:09:16] arrested for possession a

[6:09:17] controlled substance into

[6:09:19] treatment again that's a again

[6:09:20] that's again beenn

[6:09:24] very successful at some again in

[6:09:25] some

[6:09:28] at some point but again at the

[6:09:29] same time you know that they

[6:09:30] don't want to go into treatment

[6:09:32] as well so it's it's kind of hit

[6:09:35] or miss but um'm umjo Burnetts

[6:09:38] and Mr Friedley again they've

[6:09:40] been sending a lot of their per

[6:09:42] our defendants into treatment as

[6:09:43] well for anyone who was

[6:09:46] charged with possession have any

[6:09:49] type of substance and any the

[6:09:50] diversion programs they're still

[6:09:52] trying to work on it too and I'm

[6:09:53] very grateful for that and I'm

[6:09:54] hoping we continue to move in

[6:09:54] that direction

[6:09:59] you're funding's good because I

[6:10:00] know we pump a lot of money into

[6:10:03] the IOc this past and trying to

[6:10:04] get de dedicated funding for

[6:10:08] thank you for the work you do

[6:10:09] but I do I think on a side

[6:10:19] treatment providers after the

[6:10:20] they they don't have to

[6:10:27] our treatment providers are are

[6:10:28] certified yes they're clinicians

[6:10:31] so our our like I said our

[6:10:33] clinical supervisor I believe is

[6:10:36] in LMSW I believe licensed

[6:10:37] mental social worker

[6:10:56] that deat sobriety was necessary

[6:10:57] as far as just

[6:11:03] to mentor in that sense then I

[6:11:04] also like to

[6:11:13] sentencing to programs like this

[6:11:14] I think that's a very

[6:11:15] different kind of as far as

[6:11:25] indigenous people but thank you

[6:11:26] thank you for the work you

[6:11:29] Welcome aboard and

[6:11:34] and learned a lot is what I

[6:11:35] understand and hopefully expand

[6:11:36] it

[6:11:42] we are looking into expanding

[6:11:44] again we're looking at again

[6:11:45] just as she mentioned the

[6:11:47] holistic approach to healing to

[6:11:49] wellness portion of it because

[6:11:51] again apparently we don't we're

[6:11:53] no longer a DWI program we're

[6:11:54] now going to be transitioning to

[6:11:56] healing and wellness so again

[6:11:59] working with Ken and joanener

[6:12:01] again utilizing the culture and

[6:12:03] the traditions for the native

[6:12:05] Americans who again want to find

[6:12:06] their way back to our culture

[6:12:08] again is positive so

[6:12:11] but that being said thank you

[6:12:13] again madam chair committee

[6:12:14] members and and leadership thank

[6:12:17] you for inviting us thank you

[6:12:18] for honoring us judge and thank

[6:12:20] you for your work and I just

[6:12:21] want to mention again that

[6:12:22] lunch was provided by

[6:12:25] Johnson and Twin Lake's chapter

[6:12:33] morning and also to the chamber

[6:12:35] for donutts so and thank you for

[6:12:37] hosting us thank you for some of

[6:12:39] you guys in the audience joining

[6:12:41] us all day and our community

[6:12:42] here in Gallup

[6:12:48] where we are but in a good way

[6:12:51] so yeah we will only go into

[6:12:54] recessor we are due to be in

[6:12:56] Akima at10 a.m. so

[6:12:58] the let's see

[6:13:01] skycity

[6:13:08] so that is next to skycity down

[6:13:09] below right yeah

[6:13:18] No it's not that's why I'm

[6:13:20] saying you yeah it's not at the

[6:13:20] hotel yeah

[6:13:26] so we will make our way that

[6:13:27] day I think some of you are

[6:13:28] staying at the hotel be very

[6:13:29] careful and I don't think

[6:13:31] there's constructions' going

[6:13:32] eastbound I think most of that's

[6:13:34] all coming westbound and as soon

[6:13:35] as the highways then you'd

[6:13:36] probably be real happy

[6:13:40] thank you again thank you to the

[6:13:41] chamber

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