[0:00] morning at

[0:00] a

[0:01] welcome we are going to start

[0:04] the Indian affairs committeetee

[0:06] as a subcommittee as we wait

[0:09] for quorum and we'll start with

[0:11] introductions. Right now the the

[0:13] agenda for today we are here

[0:15] today in the Gallup McKinley

[0:18] County Chamber ofcomrace due to

[0:18] go to Skycity ultural Center

[0:20] tomorrow and on Wednesday to the

[0:23] pueblo of Laguna so we're we're

[0:26] moving through here so we have a

[0:29] threeday meeting this week

[0:31] and we are going to do

[0:34] introductions and we do believe

[0:36] our first presenter is here

[0:38] byhazla chapter and then the

[0:40] city and lunch will be on your

[0:42] own so far they'll be food there

[0:45] there will be food I don't know

[0:47] what

[0:48] but there will be food now

[0:49] that's what I'm told

[0:51] oh thank you thank you

[0:53] representative and we were

[0:55] supposed to be in twin Lakes

[0:56] chapter but due to some of the

[0:59] outcome and stuff of the weather

[1:01] mother nature has brought us

[1:04] over here but I hope everybody

[1:05] had safe travels here and great

[1:07] accommodations and we will

[1:10] move forward so we will move

[1:12] forward with introductions first

[1:15] we will start with our those in

[1:17] the audience

[1:17] from

[1:18] this side to that side and

[1:22] then we'll go for it yes yeah no

[1:24] please use the mic up here we'll

[1:26] just push that button you can

[1:28] just leave it on too because we

[1:29] are webcasting so we try to have

[1:31] one mic at a time Hello good

[1:33] morning.

[1:34] good morning madam chair members

[1:35] of the committee, staff. my

[1:37] name is Bill Lee representing

[1:39] KJg strategies lobbying for a

[1:43] number of clients throughout New

[1:45] Mexico thank you madam chair

[1:55] good morning eachach and all of

[1:57] you my name is Eloise

[2:00] Johnson. I'm the chapter

[2:01] president of Twin Lakes

[2:02] chapter and I'm sorry we did not

[2:05] accommodate all of you but

[2:07] there was reasons and like

[2:09] they said Mo Nature but I'm glad

[2:12] to be here and welcome to each

[2:14] and all of you

[2:17] good morning madam chairir and

[2:18] committee. my name is hoda

[2:20] Edekai. I am with neighborigh

[2:22] I'm the indigenousnery

[2:22] organizer.

[2:25] good morning madam chairir.

[2:27] committeetee deborah Martinez

[2:28] city ofgallup.

[2:33] rose tom

[2:37] Good morning honorable

[2:40] legislatures my name is Joan

[2:40] Nance. I'm the vice president

[2:43] for Basla Twin Lakes chapter.

[2:45] thank you

[2:49] good morning welcome to gallup

[2:52] all of you doritzinnali Tohachi

[2:55] thank you

[3:00] Good morning

[3:01] Thompson Johnson from Twin

[3:02] Lakes

[3:16] that good we have we're gonna

[3:17] start over here withpresentative

[3:18] Block and we'll go around the

[3:20] way. Thank youpresentative. Oh,

[3:22] you want to start?

[3:22] Ohpresentative

[3:22] Le here

[3:27] good morning madam chairir umm

[3:30] anita Mejia from Chavez

[3:31] Countylad to be here

[3:34] good morning madam Chair John

[3:36] Block, Statepresentative House

[3:38] disstrict51 Otero County. I

[3:38] represent Allamogordo. thank you

[3:40] for having us.

[3:43] Madam Chair members Rex Wilson

[3:45] Senate District33 Chaviz

[3:49] Lincoln and Ontero counties it's

[3:49] good to be back in this part of

[3:51] the world. Thank you.

[3:55] good morning madam chair and

[3:56] good morning everyone. I'm

[3:58] Representative Patty Lundstrom

[3:59] and let me let me welcome you

[4:02] to House disstrict 9, this area

[4:05] is in my house district and I

[4:06] want to particularly welcome the

[4:09] folks from Twin Lakes. I used to

[4:11] represent you guys for about 20

[4:13] years

[4:14] and glad that you're here and

[4:16] glad that Bill's here also and

[4:19] look forward to a very good

[4:20] meeting today. thank you madam

[4:21] chairir.

[4:29] it's a bennett good morning

[4:29] madam chair and committee

[4:30] members and our staff. My name

[4:33] is Representative Micchelee

[4:35] Paulinabbeda. I'm coming to you

[4:36] from Trojele and I represent

[4:37] House disstrict 69 which covers

[4:39] six counties yeah

[4:46] yet a benne shea martha garcia

[4:49] yinia I represent a district

[4:50] 6 which coversieable County and

[4:52] McKinley County

[4:56] a represent ine chapters zunni

[5:00] grantsluewater Milan area and

[5:01] everything in between so that's

[5:03] where I MBR representative and

[5:05] welcome to everyone madam Chair,

[5:08] thank you

[5:10] Good morning madam chair members

[5:12] of the committee, those in the

[5:13] audience and those viewing my

[5:15] name is Patricia

[5:17] roybalcaballero. I represent

[5:17] house district thir which is the

[5:19] far southwest quadrant of

[5:21] Albuquerque and I'm happy to be

[5:23] here on this committee since my

[5:25] first term. thank you very much

[5:27] madam chairir.

[5:31] morning everyone I'm here to

[5:33] introduce staff. I'm Niccole

[5:35] Waisback from the Legislative

[5:36] coerce. We also have David here

[5:38] running our IT and we have

[5:39] Sheila and Paul assisting as

[5:41] well. thanks.

[5:45] thank you madam chair and good

[5:48] morning colleagues and staff and

[5:51] guests welcome to gallup

[5:55] I'm so glad that we're able

[5:57] to have this meeting here. I

[5:59] represent House disstrictive

[6:01] which entails East Gallup and1f

[6:03] Navajo chapters and now Twin

[6:06] Lakes is one of my chapters so

[6:09] Coming here and I was the one

[6:13] who recommended Twin Lakes

[6:14] chapter and we'll just do it

[6:17] again next time.

[6:18] so with that I just want to say

[6:20] good morning and thank you

[6:22] thank you madam vice chair and

[6:24] thank you for joining us and

[6:25] thank you to the chamber of

[6:26] commerce for accommodating us at

[6:28] the last minute and I think this

[6:30] room has changed the last time I

[6:32] was here

[6:34] we'd me here with the code

[6:36] talkers with the meeting so it

[6:38] is different but many things

[6:41] have happened this week within

[6:42] the area and I hope that is all

[6:45] in some way alleviated but I do

[6:47] believe we will see Mother

[6:48] Nature again in a couple more

[6:50] days to give us some

[6:53] some much needed moisture in

[6:54] some sense.

[6:56] but

[6:58] Shannon Pinilion and she had

[6:59] Keanni Nishchelakisluchini

[7:01] bush's china detechi nida

[7:01] chanella

[7:03] the I mean that's cha

[7:05] Filippino dechaele and I know

[7:07] some of my members here

[7:09] within the audience in which as

[7:12] well with your children we all

[7:15] grew up together so it's very

[7:17] good to to be back here and

[7:19] which we were out at twin Lakes

[7:21] but would you like to come

[7:23] forward? We do have item ones

[7:25] welcome an update from Bajala

[7:27] chapter and then we will go to

[7:29] the update from the city of

[7:30] Gallup and the future of

[7:32] community economic

[7:33] sovereignty so the light will

[7:38] turn green may have a seat and I

[7:40] don't know if anybody else is

[7:41] going to join you up here.

[7:43] actually let's take a moment

[7:44] here ma'am would you like to

[7:47] welcome us to let's give a

[7:51] minute here to our mayor of

[7:53] Gallup

[7:54] yes come on up and take a

[7:56] minute here with the microphone

[7:58] so we can and then we'll

[8:00] begin our first presentation

[8:02] here but

[8:03] but good morning

[8:07] the the thing to turn on

[8:09] thank you

[8:11] thanks for coming to Gallup.

[8:13] you're always welcome

[8:14] you know first I want to express

[8:15] my condolences for the family in

[8:19] newcomb you know with three

[8:19] people killed in a flash flood

[8:22] you know the floods are real and

[8:23] we're telling everybody be

[8:24] careful and unfortunately for

[8:27] ourR it's not the first time you

[8:28] know we've had a lot of people

[8:29] get swept away by floods

[8:32] there are nondiscriminatory

[8:34] don't enter the royals so we're

[8:36] trying to get that message

[8:37] across

[8:38] but anyway you know thanks

[8:40] for coming toallup are always

[8:40] good to have you it's always

[8:41] good to have you you know our

[8:43] we're working with what's that

[8:46] oh my name is Marc Dipali mayor

[8:49] of Gallup sorry about that

[8:52] I you know what our city

[8:54] manager's are going to be here

[8:55] in a little bit. He's gonna kind

[8:56] of express some of the things

[8:57] we're working on trying to get

[8:59] ahead of with thenavo nation

[9:03] you know we have a a population

[9:06] in Gallllup that is showing up

[9:08] here that we don't know if

[9:11] it's coming in from other from

[9:13] treatment centers or how they're

[9:15] how the people are showing up

[9:16] and they're not just nes

[9:17] necessarily native but we

[9:19] want to work with the Navo

[9:21] nation we we had incidents some

[9:23] incidents happen where people

[9:24] have been dropped off inallup

[9:27] and we've talked to him and

[9:29] mostly young girls and we hear

[9:30] what we hear is that

[9:34] they're their friend dropped

[9:35] them off and left him you know

[9:37] and it's very concerning you

[9:38] know trafficking is our biggest

[9:40] thing. one of my biggest things

[9:41] to continue and can continue to

[9:44] address you know and we need to

[9:45] make sure that we keep don't let

[9:47] it out out of our view and keep

[9:50] pushing the trafficking and

[9:51] making sure that we provide a

[9:52] safe place for people to go we

[9:55] want to we want to try to make

[9:56] something safe where if somebody

[9:58] is here maybe against their will

[10:01] or some got dropped off you know

[10:03] and as soon as you hear dropped

[10:04] off that's that's scary you know

[10:08] and we wanted that's one

[10:10] of the things we're working on

[10:11] is try to get him a safe get

[10:12] people a safe place where they

[10:13] know they're safe and they can

[10:14] go. having worked in Mexico30

[10:17] years ago I kind of have a

[10:18] little bit of experience with

[10:20] what what happens with when you

[10:22] have people who are trafficked

[10:23] and some of the people aren't

[10:25] necessarily native they are

[10:26] they're people from all over the

[10:27] place that come in they come

[10:28] throughallup.

[10:30] Anyway with that I did you know

[10:32] I don't want to be a bummer or a

[10:33] downer but I wanna to make let

[10:34] everybody know that we are

[10:35] working with our missing

[10:37] murdered indigenous and

[10:38] throughout the state with the

[10:40] other law enforcement to make

[10:41] sure that we can move ahead with

[10:43] this

[10:44] of course we'll work with

[10:45] working close with the tribe too

[10:48] anyway with that you know we

[10:50] have we have big plans for

[10:52] Gallup you know we we're working

[10:54] on some economic development

[10:56] with Patty Lindstrom you know

[10:58] and of course my niece

[11:01] Micchelle she's here. Pauline

[11:03] you know and you know

[11:06] working on some big projects

[11:07] we want to make sure thatallup

[11:08] has a place for our youth to go

[11:12] you know one of the things

[11:13] that's happening and I have

[11:15] friends you know I grew up in

[11:16] Gallup of course native

[11:17] friends and my friendRay

[11:19] Livingston he's a Livingston

[11:21] from Church rock

[11:23] and you know all of his kids

[11:25] and even him they all leave you

[11:27] know he comes back on the

[11:28] weekends for to work you know

[11:30] and and you know it's time we

[11:32] start providing opportunities

[11:33] and jobs here in Gallup for the

[11:35] local people you know so raises

[11:39] raise four kids one one's one's

[11:40] a nurse one works as an

[11:42] electrician another one's a

[11:43] mechanic or HBAc and the other

[11:46] one and the other girl I forget

[11:47] what she does but they're all

[11:48] they're either in New orleans

[11:51] they're work of course

[11:52] in the state working on other

[11:53] projects but we need to make

[11:55] sure we provide those

[11:56] opportunities here and we're

[11:57] working with of course with the

[12:01] the the uhnavajo nation or is is

[12:02] always our partner making

[12:04] sure that we have them on our

[12:06] side to provide these positions

[12:08] but then of course the next big

[12:10] step is the education we want to

[12:11] make sure that you and him and

[12:13] to you are available or well

[12:15] aware of what we're doing so

[12:17] that we can work with them

[12:18] hand in hand

[12:21] I recently got to go to

[12:22] barcelona Spain you know and

[12:24] I'm over there in Barcelona and

[12:26] people come up to me and start

[12:27] speaking French. they think I'm

[12:29] French. well no, I'm not French

[12:31] I'm Italian but anyway you

[12:34] know what what's interesting the

[12:36] idiotta that we went and visited

[12:37] is a test lab you know and I I'd

[12:39] been to jet propulsion

[12:41] laborboratory in California.

[12:42] a lot of similarities

[12:44] you know but they all work

[12:47] all these testing labs these

[12:48] high tech facilities work hand

[12:50] in hand with their universities

[12:52] to be able to fill the positions

[12:54] that they that they they know

[12:56] they're gonna need and they and

[12:57] they fill these positions so

[12:58] that they can provide an experts

[13:00] the the the high quality

[13:03] testing lab and testing facility

[13:07] so you know education of course

[13:09] then the court the next thing is

[13:10] recreation you know we want to

[13:13] we the gallup is we're looking

[13:14] at doing a pretty big expansion

[13:16] to our recreation. you know I

[13:17] hear when I go to the municipal

[13:18] league I hear from people that

[13:19] gallup has some of the best

[13:21] recreational facilities and we

[13:23] do you know and not only that we

[13:24] have cool weather so in the

[13:27] summertime it's nice to come to

[13:28] Gallup but of course you know as

[13:30] as Senator Pinto knows you know

[13:32] basketball is dear to gallup and

[13:34] so is you know the soccer is

[13:36] becoming one of the other things

[13:37] volleyball you know football

[13:39] and all the different sports but

[13:40] we have the opportunity here

[13:43] every weekend

[13:44] our our sports fields are filled

[13:46] because people come as far as

[13:47] Phoenix Yuma, Texas to go to

[13:50] play here inallup and we want to

[13:51] continue that the then

[13:54] another thing of course is

[13:55] housing you know one of the

[13:59] one of the deals that or one of

[13:59] the things that we will work on

[14:01] housing right now is incredibly

[14:02] expensive my family's been

[14:06] building houses in here probably

[14:07] for h00 years. you know my aro

[14:09] Caania was was my grandfather he

[14:11] was a stonemason he learned the

[14:14] stonemasonry from the Spanish so

[14:16] one of the reasons when I went

[14:16] back to Barcelona I wanted to

[14:18] see exactly what why

[14:19] everything's so common wall and

[14:21] sure enough you know I could see

[14:23] that see the resemblance between

[14:24] downtown Gallup and some of the

[14:26] buildings were in Barcelona but

[14:28] you know he he learned the

[14:30] stonemason trade from the S

[14:32] pan ish and at one time he had75

[14:34] stonemasons working for him. He

[14:35] built the church in Hau. he

[14:37] built the church in Tohatchie

[14:39] he built churches all over the

[14:40] diocese of gallup. we had75

[14:44] stonemasons and then most of

[14:44] them are either zuni or Navajo

[14:47] the Tracy's Keaazzzie all my

[14:48] all my friends that grew up with

[14:52] but housing is dear is

[14:53] something we really need to look

[14:55] into

[14:56] you know it's it's a hard it's

[14:56] hard to

[14:57] it's hard to proceed with

[15:01] housing when a simple1300 square

[15:09] foot houses almost $250,000 you

[15:09] know, I I don't know what how

[15:10] we're ever going to catch up but

[15:12] you know there are going to be

[15:13] you know it's one of the things

[15:14] we have to do is maybe there

[15:15] might be some federal federal or

[15:17] state assistance to do that but

[15:19] that's the next thing so

[15:20] recreation education housing and

[15:24] jobs

[15:25] and with that if there's any

[15:27] questions I'll be glad to answer

[15:29] them.

[15:29] or discuss things

[15:32] but

[15:33] they got I have some people that

[15:35] I'd like to talk to you with

[15:36] that I met last week or toward

[15:39] their facilities and all kinds

[15:41] of stuff with behavioral health

[15:43] soha yes it's gonna be very

[15:44] interesting very excited about

[15:45] it but thank you thank you mayor

[15:48] right well thanks for coming to

[15:50] Gallup and our city manager will

[15:51] be here later I don't know if

[15:52] you if you wanted to talk to him

[15:54] or if he has some things to say

[15:54] to you he'll be glad to.

[15:56] Did I make did I come late? Wa I

[15:57] supposed to be here at10

[15:57] or10:30?

[16:01] Oh good right on right on time

[16:05] then with that thank you I was

[16:06] just giving the opportunity to

[16:07] welcome thank you we'll talk

[16:09] we'll ask questions later and

[16:11] have a more deeper discussion

[16:13] that was more than a welcome

[16:14] that was a welcome in the whole

[16:16] summary that's what we're doing

[16:18] thank you ma'am and thank you

[16:20] and you may proceed to it

[16:24] good morning again everyone

[16:27] like I said my name is Eloise

[16:29] Johnson. I'm the chapter

[16:30] president of Twin Lakes chapter

[16:33] and I said welcome to

[16:35] everybody earlier but I want to

[16:37] welcome honorable leaders

[16:40] of New Mexico legislatures thank

[16:42] you for thinking of us and

[16:45] trying to have us host this

[16:47] meeting however

[16:50] you know due to unforeseen

[16:52] circumstances we have to you

[16:54] know we were without water there

[16:56] for a while we were without

[16:58] internet and electric and we had

[17:00] a lot of stranded relatives

[17:02] that we needed to house at the

[17:04] chapter anyway so we've been

[17:08] on emergency call 24/7 for

[17:12] our chapter to accommodate you

[17:13] know people that are stranded

[17:15] which very few but Mexican

[17:17] springs had most of them I

[17:19] think.

[17:19] the chapter there

[17:21] but anyhow so due to that we

[17:23] couldn't host you know this

[17:25] meeting but however you know

[17:28] down the road we like to still

[17:30] accommodate we had bought

[17:32] turkeys we have bought food and

[17:35] we were ready for this and all

[17:37] of a sudden you know things

[17:39] happen so now we have to hold

[17:41] the turkeys for the holidays

[17:44] but anyway thank you for each

[17:46] and all of you for being here

[17:47] and recognizing our chapter

[17:50] and even the state

[17:53] government county government and

[17:55] city of Gallup and we wanted

[17:59] to just say thank you you know

[18:00] for being our friends our

[18:02] neighbors and helping one

[18:04] another you know times like this

[18:07] and distinguished guests all

[18:09] of you that are here my

[18:11] relatives in Navajo you have a

[18:12] relative you know each and every

[18:15] one of us you know that's our

[18:16] heritage and we go by you know

[18:22] each everyone isla by clan so we

[18:24] never are without relatives so

[18:27] that's ournavajo way, OK? and

[18:31] it's like I said my apologies

[18:32] for not accommodating you all at

[18:35] the chapter

[18:38] and

[18:39] I just want to get to it and say

[18:41] you know that I'm very grateful

[18:43] and thankful that the

[18:44] legislatures that are in there

[18:46] right now and prior have really

[18:48] helped the chapter with projects

[18:51] and all of that and some are

[18:52] still pending

[18:54] and all of that but I just

[18:57] want to express my appreciation

[18:59] for acknowledging and helping us

[19:02] and some of the projects that

[19:04] are still pending they're

[19:07] being worked on right now and I

[19:10] represent the five chapters also

[19:12] in district14 which is

[19:15] Mexican spprings coyote

[19:21] Canyon Nashchitti Tohachi

[19:23] and our chapter so in district4

[19:23] we

[19:26] have ive chapters and on

[19:28] their behalf I want to say thank

[19:29] you to each and all of you for

[19:31] assisting us with funds when

[19:33] when it's available and all of

[19:36] that and some projects have been

[19:38] successfully done and one

[19:41] thing before anything as I

[19:43] wanted to say I hope you still

[19:45] support us with the the projects

[19:47] that are still pending like

[19:49] the highway491 lighting

[19:52] and if you guys were over at

[19:54] the chapter I was and go ahead

[19:56] and have you witness all the

[19:59] fast vehicles that are going

[20:00] through and we have an

[20:02] elementary school there is no

[20:04] slowdown signs there is no

[20:06] bus pullout nothing like that

[20:09] people are just passing through

[20:12] there so fast there is no bump,

[20:14] nothing to warn people that

[20:16] there's a school there or

[20:18] anything so please I would

[20:20] suggest that you guys

[20:21] look into that and see what we

[20:25] can do to eliminate or to slow

[20:26] down traffic through there

[20:29] and then another thing that that

[20:31] you know is on my mind while

[20:33] I'm here is that we do we

[20:36] did pay the money that you guys

[20:39] did give paid for the safety

[20:43] audit that took all the money

[20:45] that your you allocated so

[20:48] now it's just the construction

[20:49] that's all you know pending and

[20:53] they say that we need more

[20:55] money1.4 million to complete and

[20:58] we really

[20:58] request that and hopefully it

[21:01] can be done soon

[21:03] and then and then thank you

[21:05] so much for

[21:11] JohnsonRoad. it is now a major

[21:12] road in our community thank you

[21:15] Patty Lindstrum for pushing

[21:17] that through for us

[21:19] and now we get all of the coyote

[21:23] Kenyan transportation to people

[21:24] coming from Coyota Canyon go

[21:26] through that road people coming

[21:29] fromortlegai roadad go through

[21:29] that road so it's really it

[21:32] needs to be completed the

[21:35] construction was not completed

[21:38] 2.2 miles of it is still

[21:40] unfinished due to the fact that

[21:42] money ran short but I would

[21:45] really recommend that that being

[21:47] that it's a major road right

[21:49] now but it has a lot of potholes

[21:51] now you know due to you know

[21:53] people going through there a lot

[21:56] and it's one of the major roads

[21:58] and one of our bridges are ready

[21:59] to give out and there's two

[22:02] bridges on that road but anyway

[22:04] I wanted to highlight that

[22:06] for you guys and then thankfully

[22:08] the money that you all allocated

[22:11] for the demolition of the old

[22:12] chapter itss finally going to

[22:14] happen it's out for bid and all

[22:18] that and

[22:18] asbestos cleanup needs to happen

[22:20] and all that they say but it's

[22:23] going to happen soon and it's

[22:25] out for bid so with that you

[22:27] know wanted to let you all know

[22:30] that that's going to happen

[22:33] and then and it's sad that

[22:36] the community cemetery that's

[22:37] really needed in our area.

[22:40] that money was reburied you know

[22:45] just because you know we have

[22:46] no project managers at the

[22:49] Navajo Nation

[22:52] in their government where you

[22:55] know the planned the projects

[22:56] and things like that people are

[22:57] leaving leaving their jobs and

[23:00] it's just staff turnover that's

[23:02] really slowing down things in

[23:04] the winter rock and with our

[23:05] chapter so we're just sitting

[23:08] idly by just waiting you know

[23:10] for these projects to be

[23:11] completed so you know that's I

[23:14] just wanted you guys to all

[23:16] understand that so you know it's

[23:16] really win the rock

[23:20] you know money stops there and

[23:22] all of that and you all know

[23:23] that so we just need people to

[23:26] push all that money through so

[23:27] it can you know accommodate our

[23:30] community

[23:31] and then one thing I want to

[23:33] suggest to the mayor is that

[23:34] maybe a sports complex in Gallup

[23:36] is due because you know I think

[23:39] it brings a lot of revenue

[23:41] and money you know are our

[23:43] sports and Navajo kids are

[23:46] really into sports and they

[23:47] bring that activity here and

[23:49] gallup

[23:51] you know makes makes money off

[23:53] of our people and all that and I

[23:55] think a sports complexes do here

[23:58] in Gallup

[23:59] either that or on the

[24:01] reservation on the highway491.

[24:04] but anyway, these are some of

[24:06] the things I wanted to highlight

[24:07] and

[24:09] just think about all this for

[24:12] us honorable leaders and we

[24:14] really appreciate all that you

[24:16] do and that's what I I have

[24:19] to say and the vice president

[24:22] here from the chapter I think

[24:22] will

[24:25] you know add to that

[24:31] yeahe penna my native tongue

[24:36] behaje adoshee adonadanolini

[24:38] that means my leaders and native

[24:43] a hawa and thank you for

[24:45] allowing us to say a few words

[24:47] and I'm not going to take all

[24:49] the time she did she had it

[24:50] written down.ine is all from my

[24:52] head Twin Lakes chapter known as

[24:54] boss a chapters we have a

[24:58] headstart in our area we also

[24:59] have an elementary school

[25:02] that's a feeder school to

[25:03] Tohatchie High School within

[25:05] within our area we also have

[25:08] husa Community school that we

[25:10] have a representative from our

[25:11] area that goes there. We also

[25:14] have a veterans program

[25:16] that we work with

[25:19] and then we also have our next

[25:20] door neighbors seniorenter

[25:22] program

[25:23] that's very much under our

[25:25] umbrella and then we also have a

[25:28] community health representative

[25:30] ChR does not have a place to

[25:32] house herself so she's stuck in

[25:34] the corner at the chapter house

[25:37] that consists of all the

[25:39] functions the daily functions of

[25:41] our chapter house

[25:43] and we would have loved to show

[25:45] you and take you down some of

[25:47] these roads that men and

[25:49] majority of our people travel

[25:51] every single day and these roads

[25:54] are for school use hospital

[25:57] appointment just to go get food

[26:00] just daily survival

[26:02] and a lot of them are washed out

[26:04] at this around last week and

[26:07] this week mostly

[26:09] wo homes completely flooded and

[26:12] we're working diligently to

[26:14] replace those homes with

[26:15] whatever funds we can get our

[26:18] hands on

[26:19] and just to echo what my sister

[26:22] said were sisters by clan by the

[26:24] way I'm probably sisters and

[26:26] relatives of the leadership here

[26:29] we work with

[26:30] our local governments whether

[26:33] it be thenavajo nation the state

[26:36] government, the Mcinley County,

[26:39] the city

[26:40] we all work together and try to

[26:43] make things happen for our

[26:45] people we get call all hours of

[26:48] the night we get text messages.

[26:50] I am flooded what can you do is

[26:53] the chapter available and we

[26:55] have to go around and make the

[26:57] chapter accessible 24/7.

[27:00] and mind you we're missing one

[27:02] important employee at our local

[27:04] government letters the the area

[27:07] so that makes it even harder

[27:09] what they call a a a community

[27:11] service worker the position is

[27:14] vacant in our area.

[27:15] in our chapter

[27:17] so we have to rely on our local

[27:19] public employment program

[27:21] workers

[27:22] and that's just the gist of how

[27:24] we live our lives in twin lakes

[27:27] but I would not change it for

[27:29] anything else. I'm there to help

[27:31] my people wherever I can however

[27:33] I can and I really do appreciate

[27:36] you all listening to me a ha I

[27:38] appreciate you all and

[27:40] everything that you all do you

[27:42] know it takes a lot being in a

[27:44] position wearing all kinds of

[27:46] hats and I'm sure you'll all get

[27:48] told this too

[27:49] some good and some not so good

[27:51] but we managed to live all those

[27:54] moments

[27:55] thank you

[27:59] thank you I havepresentative

[28:02] Lindstrom. thank you madam

[28:03] Chair. I'd like to start by

[28:05] saying both Elouise and Joan are

[28:08] two of the hardestworking public

[28:09] servants I've ever met.

[28:11] I've worked with them for years

[28:14] Eloise obviously at the

[28:15] chapter level and Joan at the

[28:17] chapter level and the public

[28:18] schools

[28:19] I did want to ask you a question

[28:22] there's a concept being kicked

[28:24] around now that council

[28:25] delegates will determine where

[28:27] your capital outlay goes.

[28:29] that's in a nutshell what I've

[28:31] always said when they talked to

[28:33] me about it is I'm gonna put the

[28:34] money

[28:35] to the people that actually send

[28:37] me to Santa Fe and I'm still

[28:39] gonna do that regardless of what

[28:41] everybody else does.

[28:42] because I think you know your

[28:44] community's at a heart level you

[28:46] know exactly where those

[28:48] pressure points are

[28:50] when you talk about things

[28:52] like JohnsonRoad. we worked on

[28:54] that project for probably5 years

[28:56] or longer. All those road

[28:58] projects I was involved with the

[29:01] new chapter building and that

[29:03] was yours in the making

[29:05] and it worked out fine for us

[29:07] and we're the rubber hits the

[29:08] road for us is what happens in

[29:09] Wind orRock.

[29:11] we don't have any control over

[29:13] that

[29:14] but what I wanted to ask is that

[29:16] there is a

[29:17] a group that's called the New

[29:20] Mexico delegation they're made

[29:22] up of different council

[29:23] delegates they're supposed to

[29:25] meet with us on a regular basis

[29:27] and they meet with us and tell

[29:29] us what the needs of the of the

[29:31] tribe is you know in general

[29:34] and

[29:35] what I've always found

[29:36] interesting is that they've

[29:39] never brought up this thing

[29:40] about cemeteries now the

[29:42] cemetery issue is a regulation

[29:44] that's changed across the entire

[29:46] Navajo nation

[29:47] so why on earth money would

[29:49] revert especially knowing that

[29:52] I'm the one who put that in

[29:53] there bugs me. it bugs me

[29:55] because those regulations came

[29:57] out of wenderock for the

[29:59] chapters to follow. It would

[30:01] make sense to me that this New

[30:03] Mexico delegation of council

[30:06] delegates would come together

[30:08] ask for one appropriation for

[30:11] all the chapters that are

[30:12] looking at upgrading your

[30:13] cemeteries

[30:15] for improvements for cemeteries

[30:16] across New Mexico chapters and

[30:19] we put that in as one capital

[30:20] request.

[30:22] but that's not how it happens

[30:24] So I I don't know if you guys go

[30:26] to those meetings or can talk

[30:29] to your delegates about that

[30:31] but I think we need one request

[30:33] so we can help all of them. I've

[30:37] had3 or4 now different chapters

[30:38] that have asked for cemetery

[30:40] improvement money and and I know

[30:42] you need it because the

[30:43] regulations have changed and

[30:45] there's no money that comes with

[30:46] that regulatory change

[30:48] so I would strongly suggest that

[30:53] maybe this committee can just

[30:54] work on that anyway

[30:56] but I don't want to jump the gun

[30:58] if the chapters have changed

[30:59] their priorities but I I know

[31:01] cemeteries are a big deal and

[31:03] I've had I've got at least4 now

[31:05] that want to see upgrade

[31:08] but I wanna cre appreciate you

[31:10] too and thank you for coming

[31:11] out. thanks for being partners

[31:13] in the trenches when it matters

[31:15] the most and anything I can do

[31:17] just ask me

[31:25] p re s ent ative Johnson

[31:26] thank you madam chairir,

[31:28] colleagues and thank you

[31:28] Shannahata

[31:32] Shade from Twin Lakes and

[31:35] then the rest of the Twin Lakes

[31:36] community and neighbors from

[31:38] Tohatchie along491.

[31:44] hi ft to on heates adobesoshi

[31:47] jali so we'll go ahead and have

[31:48] a meeting after this sometime in

[31:51] the next two weeks and going

[31:53] further and we'll talk about

[31:54] chapter community needs. so with

[31:57] that I just want to thank you

[31:59] for your hard work and

[32:02] you

[32:09] committee members you know thank

[32:10] you so

[32:11] does Twin Lakes have a cemetery

[32:15] established

[32:17] ok so there's no land withdrawal

[32:19] that's been done. Yes or where

[32:21] where's your where's your

[32:23] proposed site yes there is

[32:26] the eclipsy members they're

[32:28] working on the you know

[32:32] acquiring that first

[32:34] we're going to start with the

[32:35] four acres you know right now we

[32:38] had it set for11 acres and we

[32:42] did get a land withdrawal done.

[32:44] it's going through right now and

[32:46] we have

[32:46] permission from the

[32:48] landowner to build

[32:51] cemetery there and it's on route

[32:55] 9 going towards Coyote Canyon

[32:57] that that road it's how

[33:00] many miles down three miles down

[33:03] I think on your right side

[33:08] and we're talking about11

[33:11] acres you know but then we were

[33:14] seeing you know we should

[33:16] just we should just do4 from

[33:19] the beginning you know and then

[33:20] add to it

[33:22] but it's all being done by

[33:25] the clubc members and they're

[33:25] meeting tomorrow.

[33:29] iss it tomorrow you guys are

[33:32] meeting oh no oh the following

[33:33] week'm sorry go ahead

[33:34] let me add to that I have the

[33:36] packet I I have the packet

[33:38] that's ready to be submitted.

[33:40] However, we still need our

[33:42] grazing official signature on

[33:44] some of the forms that needs to

[33:46] and then we'll finalize it and

[33:48] then it'll go to C pmD I

[33:50] understand and I'm trying to

[33:52] help and run with it with what

[33:54] we do have

[33:56] it was like she said through

[33:58] four acres it's been reverted

[33:59] back to11.5.

[34:02] it's reverted back to11.5 and

[34:05] we're asking for access to the

[34:08] area and it's right along the

[34:10] line that gas line but it's

[34:14] not right in the area it's

[34:16] beside the area so we're going

[34:18] to have to ask for permission

[34:19] from the company there just

[34:22] little minor steps that we're

[34:23] still working on

[34:25] otherwise

[34:27] yeah yeah we're gonna be outside

[34:29] it and the lady that is

[34:34] president for lupsy. she knows

[34:35] what she's doing

[34:36] that's her job and she's got a

[34:38] lot of experience with that so

[34:40] she's leading us through and

[34:42] I have the packet with me and I

[34:45] just as soon as I get the

[34:46] signatures from the young man

[34:47] we're on our way

[34:50] thank you and it's it's kind of

[34:52] just letting our members know

[34:54] too what we what our challenges

[34:56] are within the chapter because

[34:57] not every chapter has a cemetery

[35:01] ours actually in hatchie's maxed

[35:03] out and they did extend it but

[35:05] with the upgrades to the burial

[35:08] procedure it has to be fenced

[35:11] and it has to have public access

[35:13] is part of it so they didn't

[35:17] say actually criteria for what

[35:19] public access is I don't know

[35:22] as far as grading the road

[35:23] because I if that

[35:25] because I know there are

[35:26] restrictions when you go over

[35:28] the gas line as far as grading

[35:29] or any kind of road improvement

[35:33] yeah it's very difficult

[35:36] the water situation

[35:40] it was interesting this morning

[35:42] cause I was on my way to the

[35:43] meeting here and they said it is

[35:45] not just a it happens

[35:47] periodically. how often does

[35:49] that happen in what areas of the

[35:51] twin lakes is happening at it

[35:53] sounds like you guys are losing

[35:55] water often well to answer

[35:59] your question

[36:00] chair

[36:03] it happens

[36:04] I would say more than

[36:06] periodically we either have no

[36:09] water or no electricity.

[36:12] and it's only like a certain

[36:14] section and I don't know if ours

[36:17] we live in that area where it's

[36:19] always been impacted

[36:21] our neighbors would have water

[36:24] neighborighs on the other side

[36:25] would have water but I don't

[36:27] know if our water tank is

[36:28] connected withexican springs

[36:30] when they're without water we

[36:32] don't have water and that water

[36:34] what the the area that I'm

[36:36] talking about is if you know

[36:37] where the chapter house is

[36:39] straight down east from there

[36:41] and you notice the housing there

[36:42] and the elementary is just east

[36:45] of Dda Headart is just east of

[36:47] there yeah

[36:49] Twin Lakes housing yeah just

[36:52] it's that whole strip will have

[36:53] no water

[36:55] and if and if the power goes

[36:58] out it's completely out a

[37:00] blackout

[37:01] and you just I mean people will

[37:04] call me I will call NTUA and try

[37:06] to get somebody get some

[37:07] information really back to

[37:08] the community residents

[37:11] so NTUA is aware of it

[37:15] we've been calling and calling

[37:17] and

[37:17] their answer is always your area

[37:21] is not the only one affected all

[37:24] these other areas so we'll

[37:26] address it when we will address

[37:28] it when we find a broken water

[37:30] line

[37:32] so you don't know if it's

[37:33] actually a broken water line or

[37:36] don't know we just report it you

[37:38] just report it what happens

[37:40] at the school do you know if

[37:43] they don't have any water they

[37:44] get water delivered water

[37:46] bottles delivered and then they

[37:49] also have

[37:50] other alternative ways

[37:53] for the restroom facility

[37:56] or if worst comes to worst

[37:59] the last thing they do I know

[38:01] for a fact is they don't release

[38:04] school any time during the

[38:05] school day because they don't

[38:06] know if anybody will be home to

[38:08] receive the kits or even if they

[38:10] have a key to get into their

[38:12] house

[38:12] it's better and safer for them

[38:14] to stay at the school and I just

[38:17] want members to know this is

[38:18] this happens atchi too it

[38:20] happened once a couple of years

[38:23] at elementary you we have and

[38:24] they told my kids that because

[38:26] they couldn't get porta potties

[38:28] they had to get on the bus and

[38:30] go to Twinlakes to use the

[38:32] restroom at one moment

[38:34] so this is it's an issue I

[38:38] and you have reached out

[38:39] tonTwe ok

[38:43] I'm I'm going to talk to our our

[38:45] our public school company they

[38:47] oversight task force and PED and

[38:50] then we'll go from there too and

[38:55] and the delegates

[38:56] somebody from the nation's far

[38:59] leadership are they aware

[39:01] thelDAs or I think oh

[39:05] thelAs are the ones that work

[39:07] for council delegate that

[39:09] because they they're the ones

[39:11] attending the meetings and you

[39:12] haven't spoken to a delegate

[39:13] directly more than the delegate

[39:16] because delegates always in

[39:18] the window on those committee

[39:20] meetings and all that so he

[39:22] has 2 2lDAs that work under him

[39:25] so they go to these meetings at

[39:27] the local level can you have

[39:29] something generated written

[39:33] to the the members or to me and

[39:34] then I'll

[39:34] disseminate it to to our members

[39:36] here

[39:36] to read it over in that way

[39:39] representatives here can also

[39:42] take it up the line to our to

[39:44] who we talk to too and get it

[39:46] addressed cause I think it is in

[39:48] especially when we talk about

[39:50] our children

[39:52] it should probably even go to

[39:53] OEh in some instances because

[39:55] I'm assuming that senior center

[39:57] and that gets shut down when the

[39:59] water pressures because you

[40:00] can't have you can't

[40:03] ok let me see the chapter I

[40:08] know that the old chapter

[40:09] house with the demolition you

[40:12] need to report that to us to in

[40:14] that process of where you're

[40:15] standing because right now on my

[40:17] list that I just received last

[40:19] week that it says nobody's

[40:21] reported anything and you guys

[40:23] are under the red about where

[40:24] the project stands so you need

[40:27] to call our DFfa and let them

[40:29] know where you guys are at in

[40:31] the process so it reflects in

[40:33] what

[40:33] I receive or else will be in

[40:35] trouble by the time the session

[40:39] startsmorrow we're having a

[40:40] leadership meeting tomorrow

[40:41] morning at the chapter and

[40:43] that's when the council delegate

[40:44] and his LDA that's when we we

[40:47] report to each others

[40:49] and the officials so and yeah

[40:51] they'll be that that will be on

[40:54] the list yeah and I just want to

[40:56] make sure too I mean I'm not

[40:57] trying to because I know I

[41:00] have other chapter leaders here

[41:02] and community members here that

[41:04] if we're not really aware of

[41:06] the situation but we need

[41:08] something in writing even when I

[41:10] talked to my congressional

[41:11] leaders especially when it's

[41:13] like a federal road or something

[41:14] is it's like yeah there's a

[41:16] problem with this road

[41:18] no it's not just because I'm

[41:19] driving on it but I need a

[41:21] community member to come forward

[41:22] and put that in writing so I can

[41:24] send it up and say this is an

[41:26] issue coming from this person in

[41:27] this community and that they're

[41:29] not just thinking I'm trying to

[41:30] do something that's easier for

[41:32] me and to drive on to where I

[41:35] drive or in any issue in that

[41:37] sense so we need to receive that

[41:39] in writing in that sense but

[41:41] thank you for the work you do

[41:44] and I believe that process to

[41:46] that proposed process

[41:47] was just recently proposed

[41:50] but we're going back to to

[41:52] make sure that you guys are

[41:53] shovel ready in that sense but I

[41:55] think it does, I don't think it

[41:57] has been communicated to the

[41:58] chapters yet because it seems

[42:00] like it's coming top down and

[42:03] then we'll go from there because

[42:05] I do believe that Navajo Nation

[42:08] areigrother has their process

[42:10] that hurts our chapters and

[42:14] they need to streamline it over

[42:16] there and get their their ducks

[42:17] in a row

[42:18] and then let our our chapters

[42:19] know

[42:20] what's what's there but once

[42:22] it's done it'll be communicated

[42:24] out as soon as possible. I don't

[42:25] know if you have any questions

[42:26] for me. Oh, and the lighting

[42:28] because I don't think you guys

[42:31] ever had a school zone like

[42:33] ever in that area. it was just a

[42:35] safety corridor that was it.

[42:38] Tohatchee does not have one

[42:40] there's got

[42:40] knocked down I think in an

[42:42] accident or something but all

[42:44] along for91, that's going to

[42:46] be something I will will address

[42:48] up and down49 because I

[42:51] think new comes the other one

[42:53] up and down there that needs

[42:55] and even with the bus routes and

[43:00] rockcksprings with the

[43:00] because I do believetachi

[43:03] changed her transportation route

[43:05] so your school bus

[43:06] transportation routes need to

[43:08] make sure they're communicated

[43:10] so that we know where that

[43:12] zone's supposed to be how far

[43:13] out

[43:13] in that sense and I know we

[43:16] did

[43:18] I don't know if there's actually

[43:20] needs to be a turnout extended

[43:22] like they did at Chi Dodge

[43:24] because we were having issues

[43:26] right there on top of the hill

[43:27] and you saw we extended that

[43:29] lane out for for that traffic. I

[43:32] don't know

[43:32] how that but let's let's take

[43:36] this further but thank you and

[43:38] alluding to the turnout to the

[43:40] elementary school needs to bewi.

[43:42] we have two yeah big buses that

[43:45] go in there and you can turn out

[43:47] and then you wait for the

[43:48] vehicles creates a congestion in

[43:51] the mornings they told me

[43:52] because I told them

[43:54] tohachielementary was like that

[43:55] and they said you're right it's

[43:56] too narrow but I'm not sure what

[43:58] we because that road right

[44:00] there's a BIA road and that one

[44:02] might be too right

[44:06] to be ident yeah to the to the

[44:07] housing ok

[44:09] but that one was they did a

[44:11] good job right there at Doy

[44:14] dodge they completed it that's

[44:16] yeah it's very safe and I like

[44:18] it

[44:19] thank you thank you for the work

[44:21] you do thank you thank you for

[44:22] joining us and hopefully we get

[44:24] to be out there. I know I

[44:25] stopped by there a couple of

[44:26] times but you guys are busy too

[44:30] I let them know I stopped by

[44:32] write a little note and I don't

[44:33] know if you can read my writing

[44:34] but thank you thank you

[44:37] thank you all ok committee

[44:40] members we will move on to item

[44:42] two update from the city

[44:42] ofallllup

[44:45] and we have Frank Gippetti and

[44:49] Marc Dipali and I would also

[44:50] like to mention that I did see

[44:51] heavy equipment coming from

[44:53] Gallup headed up north on491 so

[44:55] I'm sure that's a county or the

[44:57] city going out to great roads so

[44:59] we appreciate that very much for

[45:01] the outreach as we move forward

[45:06] I know petty's been before us

[45:06] before and

[45:07] I don't know if mayor's coming

[45:09] back but thank you for joining

[45:11] us audience members

[48:09] OK and a little bit of

[48:10] housekeeping if you go out

[48:12] this door don't go out the

[48:13] second door. The restrooms are

[48:15] just the first door down to the

[48:16] right the restrooms are there.

[48:18] Second

[48:21] ' m just kidding

[48:22] it'll be very close to it but

[48:24] thank you good morning and you

[48:26] may

[48:28] You out there Benny

[48:30] chair chairman Pinto legislators

[48:37] legislative council staff She

[48:41] Frankcipetti and Nisha Beagunna

[48:43] Nnichelele Italian bush's chin

[48:46] Irish English dashache

[48:50] Italian dachanae city of

[48:53] Gallupbannonish city manager

[48:55] initially so my name is

[48:57] Frankippetti. fourthgenation

[48:58] Gallup,

[48:59] love my hometown I'd have to say

[49:01] that's why I'm still here

[49:03] good place to raise a family

[49:04] fifth generation is here

[49:06] One of these days we'll have a

[49:08] sixthgeneration but right now I

[49:09] have grand dogs

[49:12] welcome welcome to Gallup.

[49:14] we wanted to do a short

[49:15] discussion on the Navajo Gallup

[49:17] water supply project.

[49:19] our mayor being the water

[49:21] engineer that's been involved in

[49:23] this since conception. I think

[49:25] it'd be more appropriate for him

[49:26] to talk about that. Then I've

[49:28] also brought deborah Martinez

[49:30] who runs our behavioral health

[49:31] programs and I brought her in

[49:34] so when we talked the unhoused

[49:36] and housing initiatives

[49:38] she she can give a deeper

[49:40] background and answer more in

[49:42] depth questions than I would be

[49:44] able to. I know a little bit

[49:45] about the city and every

[49:46] component but we have experts

[49:49] so'd like to turn it over to

[49:50] Maor depaulli to talk about our

[49:51] Navajo gallup

[49:55] thanks rank then thanks again

[49:56] for coming to madam chair and

[49:58] everybody already gave an

[49:59] introduction and welcome so

[50:01] thenavel gallup project as you

[50:02] guys know has been in the works

[50:03] for over100 years1922 is when it

[50:07] was first started and we're not

[50:08] gonna go through all the

[50:08] tribulations and stuff but it

[50:10] was delayed in in 2019. the

[50:13] delivery date was supposed to be

[50:16] December31st,2024. that

[50:18] delayed that data has been

[50:19] delayed because of some some mac

[50:22] operational things that that

[50:23] would enhance the

[50:24] project.

[50:25] so right now the del delivery

[50:26] date is set for about 2030.

[50:29] hopefully by then the we'll

[50:32] have the rest of the the water

[50:33] treatment plant done and the the

[50:34] water delivery facilities

[50:35] installed and we'll be seeing

[50:37] drinking water in gallup and

[50:39] that means also all of our

[50:41] neighbors to the north twin

[50:43] Lakes of course Tohatchie and

[50:45] all the chapters around Gallup

[50:48] fromhurch rockyambato read

[50:53] springs umchilta ed rockck

[50:54] magnuitto Wa be distributed all

[50:54] through town but right now

[50:57] we're still on groundwater and

[50:58] we really appreciate all the the

[51:00] help that the state has given us

[51:02] by supplementing the delay in

[51:05] the the compensating for the

[51:06] delay and the delivery of the

[51:07] surface water by giving us money

[51:09] to drill wells so far we've

[51:11] drilled about 6 wells and we

[51:13] should have all three of those

[51:14] equipped unfortunately

[51:17] because of switch gear and

[51:19] that's electrical switch gear

[51:20] and and pumps we use the same

[51:23] switch gear and pumps that they

[51:24] use in the oil industry and when

[51:28] oil's100 dollars a barrel

[51:29] it's hard to get that those

[51:31] companies to want even come to

[51:32] gallup so we are having a little

[51:34] bit of struggle getting our

[51:35] water wells equipped with the

[51:37] proper pumps and switch gear.

[51:40] with that umc again should we

[51:42] should have hopefully the I

[51:42] think the water is on time to be

[51:44] delivered so the surface water

[51:45] should be here but in the

[51:46] meantime we're still struggling

[51:47] with groundwater

[51:48] and if you do and if anybody has

[51:51] any questions about thearbo

[51:52] gallup or anything I'd be glad

[51:53] to answer them.

[51:58] Yeah let's go ahead and have you

[52:00] all present and then we'll take

[52:02] questions after so

[52:09] Thank you vice chair.

[52:11] attached you you we were giving

[52:13] you several graphs

[52:17] last winter

[52:20] for the unhoused

[52:25] ally gallup has a number

[52:30] and

[52:31] we were working to

[52:33] I'm not plugged in sorry once

[52:35] again we did a warming center

[52:36] last winter. thank you very much

[52:40] legislative council services

[52:41] is always on top of things

[52:45] we

[52:45] had a warming center to try to

[52:47] prevent exposure deaths

[52:50] gallup traditionally has a large

[52:53] number of exposure desks

[52:56] it's it's not uncommon to see

[52:58] subzero temperatures in Gallllup

[53:00] during the wintertime.

[53:01] so December 22nd through

[53:03] February 28, we had a warming

[53:06] center we leased a portion of a

[53:09] motel provided daily ser

[53:11] or evening services for them.

[53:15] I'm not gonna say it was a

[53:17] smooth

[53:20] it it had some roadblocks

[53:23] people wanting to bring alcohol

[53:25] in weapons in some violence

[53:29] so as we started we we had to

[53:31] be equipped a little bit deeper

[53:32] with security

[53:33] and and other things to keep

[53:36] staff safe

[53:38] it it it we were hoping for

[53:40] something smooth, appreciated,

[53:43] I'm gonna say some families

[53:44] did

[53:45] it was troubling to see

[53:47] having to see children

[53:48] coming in

[53:49] to it

[53:52] so it it did serve its

[53:54] purpose

[53:55] but with not without

[53:56] roadblocks and and that's

[53:58] something that

[53:58] the group that does take it this

[54:02] next year if they want to. city

[54:04] he'd be happy to be the fiscal

[54:05] agent but we're asking

[54:07] another group some some of

[54:09] the groups that are wanting to

[54:10] do cooling and warming centers

[54:11] in the area

[54:12] and are directly with the

[54:14] unhoused already might already

[54:16] have that expertise to to do it

[54:18] more than what the city did.

[54:20] again we provide services

[54:24] we have

[54:25] groups that that meet offer

[54:28] services but when we're offering

[54:30] services we're offering to to

[54:33] external agencies we the city

[54:34] itself doesn't do the direct

[54:36] services

[54:36] so we were stepping up on this

[54:39] almost

[54:39] expected to be more of a direct

[54:42] service which we're not equipped

[54:43] to do so we'd like to see

[54:45] another one of the groups

[54:46] take it but again they can't

[54:49] really be the fiscal agent so I

[54:52] I will offer the city services

[54:53] to be that fiscal agent and help

[54:55] coordinate the financing portion

[54:58] but when it comes down to the

[54:59] programming portion again we

[55:01] would love to do intakes we

[55:03] would love to help with the

[55:04] referrals but we'd like to see

[55:06] somebody who's equipped

[55:07] dealing with all the

[55:09] components of the unhoused to

[55:11] actually do the services itself

[55:14] so we don't want it to go away

[55:16] but at the same time we don't

[55:17] want to be the direct portion

[55:19] because again safety for our

[55:21] staff

[55:22] and and then

[55:22] we have knowledge but we're not

[55:26] experts OK a lot of data

[55:28] there for you and deb if you'd

[55:30] like to talk about the the data

[55:34] did a great job. again we we

[55:36] do have these type of services

[55:38] to to break down the data and

[55:42] and to

[55:45] I can't think of the name of

[55:46] your

[55:49] ro up that each of your grants

[55:50] has to have that breaks the data

[55:51] down

[55:53] evaluate evaluator. we do have

[55:54] those type of services so she

[55:56] does a great job with the data

[55:58] madam chairir committee

[56:01] like we did we did a pilot

[56:02] project with the emergency

[56:04] shelter we contracted with

[56:05] various programs they are

[56:08] listed here we had

[56:10] transport services we use the

[56:16] hotel we gallupunity Health

[56:16] was actually the ones operating

[56:18] it but it took a lot of

[56:20] manpower and you'll see some of

[56:22] the recommendations out of of

[56:23] the the warming shelter so we

[56:27] had 292,971 intakes and out of

[56:32] those there was 636 unique

[56:34] individuals so you'll see split

[56:36] it opened by population

[56:39] and then the highest number of

[56:41] stays there was 63 but you'll

[56:44] see that a majority of the

[56:45] people didn't stay less than5

[56:47] days.

[56:49] you'll see the population

[56:51] we didn't break it down by the

[56:53] time that we had got this going

[56:54] it was kind of a last minute

[56:55] thing it was an emergency

[56:57] shelter 64% of the individuals

[57:00] are from McKinley County. you'll

[57:02] see the ethnicity the age range

[57:04] and then the percentage of time

[57:06] they were homelessness and then

[57:08] which was interesting was the

[57:09] barriers to housing a lot of

[57:11] individuals had missing

[57:12] documents had substance use

[57:15] disorder, no housing for a large

[57:17] families

[57:18] access to services, access to

[57:20] communication, no physical

[57:22] mailing address, mental health

[57:24] and rental prices

[57:33] Thank you Deb we also do

[57:35] outreach monthly where our

[57:37] law enforcement fire, any

[57:40] agency that wants to go along

[57:41] with us and and then Deb's

[57:44] department goes out and and

[57:46] actually walks the ditches,

[57:49] walks the area of traditional

[57:51] unhoused locations a lot of our

[57:54] transient camps and they go and

[57:55] visit

[57:57] and we we try to talk to him

[58:00] build trust, offer services

[58:02] find what the underlying causes

[58:04] if it's housing how how can we

[58:06] help refer you to to some place

[58:08] to help with housing if it's

[58:09] missing documents we we can help

[58:12] to try to get him the documents

[58:14] for substance abuse we can do

[58:15] referrals but I'm gonna say

[58:17] that's that's very difficult in

[58:18] our area without mandatory

[58:23] required

[58:25] they they don't want to go

[58:27] they don't wanna stay

[58:30] we're we're finding that our

[58:31] ditch roerco

[58:35] the the river system is a haven

[58:37] for the unhoused a lot of it

[58:41] falls under state jurisdiction.

[58:42] a lot of it falls under

[58:43] Burlington Northern railroad

[58:45] jurisdiction. some of it we have

[58:47] no jurisdiction whatsoever so it

[58:50] it becomes a a mecca for

[58:52] prostitution for drugs used

[58:56] to be alcohol which was easier

[58:58] to deal with but now it's

[58:59] fentanyl it's meth

[59:01] it it it's it's getting deeper

[59:04] I believe in the the mayor's

[59:06] opening he talked about the

[59:08] trafficking

[59:09] and and it's amazing to hear how

[59:11] many young girls that oh I just

[59:13] had a ride into town and and and

[59:14] they left me

[59:17] that that's a cover

[59:19] they're they're here they're

[59:20] being they're being marketed

[59:22] it's it's a sad and and it's

[59:24] very difficult for us they

[59:25] haven't committed a crime that

[59:26] we know of. we know what's

[59:28] happening but to prove it and

[59:30] when they just tell you I'm I'm

[59:31] here voluntarily I was left. I

[59:33] don't want services

[59:35] and they walk across the bridge

[59:36] away from you and immediately

[59:37] get picked up by somebody you

[59:40] know they're being trafficked it

[59:41] it it's it's a sad

[59:42] sad step so

[59:45] anything we can get for

[59:47] mandatory treatment for those

[59:50] that are not competent because

[59:52] of the heavy drug use

[59:53] or anything that can be helped

[59:55] with

[59:56] the the trafficking any laws

[1:00:00] that you can do would be a great

[1:00:01] help.

[1:00:02] during these outreach this year

[1:00:04] we're starting to collect deeper

[1:00:05] data

[1:00:07] one of them I brought was

[1:00:08] where where the people are

[1:00:09] coming from

[1:00:11] so we did two

[1:00:11] two so far August and September

[1:00:14] for this fiscal year

[1:00:18] these are low numbers

[1:00:21] august we hit I believe

[1:00:24] around50 some people the

[1:00:26] September 1 we hit a little

[1:00:26] over100

[1:00:29] so it's it's not the best data

[1:00:31] because of the small population

[1:00:32] numbers but but you can see

[1:00:34] where where the where the people

[1:00:39] are coming from. In august

[1:00:41] everybodydy talked to us it was

[1:00:42] it was nice to hear and and you

[1:00:44] can see the breakdown of of

[1:00:46] where the people came from

[1:00:47] Gallup might be over emphasized

[1:00:51] um73% doesn't mean they're from

[1:00:53] Gallup. We know Gallup has a new

[1:00:55] meaning

[1:00:57] people used to laugh when

[1:00:58] they tell me they come from

[1:01:00] Comato and I'm like ok which

[1:01:01] direction

[1:01:03] because there's not many people

[1:01:04] in Comaro you know they live in

[1:01:06] Apache Creek if they live east

[1:01:09] ofummoto towards Dadl west north

[1:01:10] they're from Comado even though

[1:01:11] they're not inomado well that's

[1:01:13] the same for gallup

[1:01:15] September we we had a lot

[1:01:18] refused to talk to us.

[1:01:20] it's sad to see that that huge

[1:01:22] left b block blue block just

[1:01:24] refused to give us information

[1:01:26] but we have people coming from

[1:01:27] Texas

[1:01:30] navajo Nation

[1:01:31] Zunni, or

[1:01:34] when I put arizona I don't put

[1:01:36] the

[1:01:37] chinnley

[1:01:40] granato. I I count those as

[1:01:42] Navonation. So this group from

[1:01:43] that that 2% from arizona we're

[1:01:47] talking Phoenix, Tucson, those

[1:01:49] type of places and what we're

[1:01:51] finding with a lot of those as

[1:01:53] we talk to them they come to

[1:01:54] gallup for treatment

[1:01:57] or

[1:01:58] they get on a bus

[1:02:01] or they're kicked off a train

[1:02:03] they can get intoxicated on the

[1:02:05] train the next stop the train

[1:02:06] stops

[1:02:07] you're removed

[1:02:09] they have a bus ticket and this

[1:02:11] is as far as they get. we've

[1:02:13] we've actually talked to some

[1:02:14] people last year

[1:02:17] several Africanericans it's like

[1:02:18] hey what brought you to gallup?

[1:02:20] It's like well we were going

[1:02:21] west and this is as far as we

[1:02:22] had money to get.

[1:02:24] this was the bus stop that our

[1:02:25] ticket ran out

[1:02:27] here we are

[1:02:29] that type of stuff we see

[1:02:31] some that go to treatment

[1:02:33] they either voluntarily say I'm

[1:02:35] done with this because there's

[1:02:36] no again no mandatory to

[1:02:38] complete treatment they walk out

[1:02:40] after 2 days,80 days whatever

[1:02:42] they walk out

[1:02:44] they don't have the money to get

[1:02:45] back home

[1:02:47] some of them actually graduate

[1:02:49] from these programs

[1:02:52] they don't have the money to go

[1:02:54] back home

[1:02:55] and unfortunately then we're

[1:02:56] seeing

[1:02:57] they graduate from these

[1:02:58] programs

[1:02:59] they don't have the housing they

[1:03:01] don't have the workforce

[1:03:03] they start the cycle all over

[1:03:04] again we know if they end up

[1:03:07] back in that real perco

[1:03:08] within 30 days they're going to

[1:03:10] be using again it's sad to say

[1:03:12] the last giraffe is a much

[1:03:14] better representation this is

[1:03:15] well over1000 people.

[1:03:17] these are the people done

[1:03:18] intakes at NCI who come to NCI

[1:03:23] and and when I say come tonCI we

[1:03:26] do allow people come to NCI who

[1:03:28] are clean

[1:03:30] that need a place to stay for

[1:03:32] the night, especially in the

[1:03:33] cold months.

[1:03:34] um, especially before we had the

[1:03:35] warming shelter we allow them

[1:03:38] to come if you're clean when you

[1:03:39] come in and you're clean the

[1:03:40] next morning

[1:03:41] have a great day

[1:03:43] you got a nice bed you got your

[1:03:44] clothes washed showered, fed

[1:03:48] and and you can go bo about your

[1:03:50] life now if they are intoxicated

[1:03:52] we do do72hoho tip

[1:03:58] twelvehour and72 hour depending

[1:03:59] on how many times they've been

[1:04:01] to the facility in the last th30

[1:04:01] days.

[1:04:03] so so we have some that we hold

[1:04:06] longer

[1:04:10] this so this is much better data

[1:04:11] and again Texas, Colorado

[1:04:14] arizona

[1:04:15] other portions of New Mexico

[1:04:17] Navajo Nation Zunni

[1:04:21] gallopingam merkel and then the

[1:04:21] rema and when I sayRama it's

[1:04:23] it's ramah pine hill area so you

[1:04:25] know we're seeing a large number

[1:04:28] and and this is where we're

[1:04:28] we're asking you

[1:04:31] we're we're funding NCI with

[1:04:34] with the money that that we get

[1:04:35] granted

[1:04:37] we're we're looking for other

[1:04:38] support this is a national

[1:04:40] problem as you can see by the

[1:04:43] other states

[1:04:45] and it's anavajo nation problem

[1:04:46] and it's a gallup problem so

[1:04:49] working trying to work in

[1:04:50] conjunction with all parties

[1:04:56] so

[1:04:57] it it it's just something I

[1:04:58] wanted to to put on the table to

[1:04:59] to see what we have and then

[1:05:02] open that discussion

[1:05:04] We do have gallup housing

[1:05:05] authority who are doing the

[1:05:08] the low income housing

[1:05:12] great to see

[1:05:14] they are maxed out

[1:05:16] they have a long waiting list

[1:05:18] they're now looking at working

[1:05:19] towards the people who've timed

[1:05:22] out within their program they've

[1:05:24] been in the maximum number of

[1:05:25] years months and and now they

[1:05:28] have to move to the next level

[1:05:29] housing workforce housing so

[1:05:30] they're they're starting to look

[1:05:31] at that and Gallllup is also

[1:05:33] starting we have several

[1:05:35] potential

[1:05:37] residential sites where the city

[1:05:40] of Gallup owns land

[1:05:42] we would like to really start

[1:05:44] turning that land into

[1:05:45] the housing to start opening the

[1:05:50] low rent housing

[1:05:52] to some of these unhoused type

[1:05:54] to to who qualify and start

[1:05:57] taking those that are now aging

[1:05:59] out

[1:05:59] of the low income into the

[1:06:02] workforce development,

[1:06:05] tho those families as soon as

[1:06:07] they age out where are they

[1:06:07] going

[1:06:09] Gallup doesn't have workforce

[1:06:11] housing.

[1:06:12] we have market rate housing

[1:06:15] and the market rates in Gallup

[1:06:16] are high.

[1:06:18] so we'd like to build more of a

[1:06:20] workforce smaller homes

[1:06:23] we would love to do senior

[1:06:25] we're building a new senior

[1:06:26] center and we thank your

[1:06:27] Department of Aging for

[1:06:28] everything they've done for us.

[1:06:31] It's it's fabulous. we're

[1:06:32] looking at a grand opening in

[1:06:33] November so we'll be sending

[1:06:34] invites out

[1:06:36] it's going to be a beautiful

[1:06:37] center generator will

[1:06:41] actually have an emergency

[1:06:42] shelter for elderly therefore

[1:06:45] when the power goes out

[1:06:47] those type of things

[1:06:49] we would love we own the land

[1:06:50] across the street. we would love

[1:06:52] to see senior housing because

[1:06:54] we're seeing that's another need

[1:06:55] also

[1:06:56] so we were doing research we've

[1:07:00] looked in Gunnison we've looked

[1:07:01] at other places that have

[1:07:03] presented to the International

[1:07:05] cityity Manag's association who

[1:07:06] are doing wonderful workforce

[1:07:08] developing housing and how with

[1:07:11] the startup money

[1:07:13] they then can take over

[1:07:15] with their revenue to escalate

[1:07:18] it and continue it for for the

[1:07:21] initial investment. So we're

[1:07:22] doing that research and we will

[1:07:24] be applying to all the available

[1:07:26] programs both state and

[1:07:27] federally to get us that seed

[1:07:30] money to build the first complex

[1:07:32] type thing and then move we're

[1:07:34] also working with some

[1:07:35] behavioral health agencies as I

[1:07:37] said they you go for addiction

[1:07:40] you come out clean in 90 days?

[1:07:43] where do you go? Nobody has the

[1:07:46] transitional housing where to go

[1:07:48] so we are talking with some of

[1:07:50] them we just met with our

[1:07:51] Corners new staff. they have a

[1:07:53] new CEO and we met with them a

[1:07:55] couple weeks ago and and and I

[1:07:58] pitched the idea wed pitched it

[1:07:59] to him last year there was some

[1:08:00] momentum excitement then they

[1:08:02] changed people and it was quiet

[1:08:03] during the last legislative

[1:08:05] season. I didn't want to come

[1:08:06] ask for anything not knowing if

[1:08:08] it was wanted or not this year

[1:08:10] it looks like it's gonna be

[1:08:11] wanted they would love to build

[1:08:13] a

[1:08:13] transitional one year housing so

[1:08:15] as they graduate from these

[1:08:16] treatment centers they can move

[1:08:18] into group housing

[1:08:19] and in that group housing they

[1:08:21] have the camaraderie they have

[1:08:22] the counseling a place where the

[1:08:24] PO can meet with them

[1:08:26] they have the individual

[1:08:27] counseling but more importantly

[1:08:29] we can offer them a set location

[1:08:32] for the public transportation,

[1:08:35] working with other agencies to

[1:08:36] get them into workforce

[1:08:37] development. give them that one

[1:08:39] year of clean life, building

[1:08:41] skills to where they graduate

[1:08:43] that next year

[1:08:45] hopefully they've got a small

[1:08:46] next stake to go where they want

[1:08:48] whether it's back home whether

[1:08:50] it's here and then to live clean

[1:08:53] in in the next transition

[1:08:56] without having to go back on the

[1:08:57] street

[1:08:59] and and and start the cycle over

[1:09:02] so those are some of the things

[1:09:03] that we're looking at doing

[1:09:04] we're we're excited about and

[1:09:06] we're starting to get other

[1:09:07] agencies to look with us and I

[1:09:09] think that's important. City

[1:09:11] can't do it by herself. The

[1:09:13] outside agencies can't do it by

[1:09:15] theirsel but with good

[1:09:16] partnerships I think we're going

[1:09:17] to get there

[1:09:17] so we would all love to stand

[1:09:20] for questions

[1:09:22] thank you memberspresentative

[1:09:22] Luundstone

[1:09:26] thank you madam chair and I'd

[1:09:27] like to thank the panel this

[1:09:29] morning for being here. A

[1:09:30] coupleup of questions that I did

[1:09:31] have in august we had a joint

[1:09:34] committee hearing federal funds

[1:09:35] stabilization with the health

[1:09:37] committee

[1:09:38] that was over at the county

[1:09:40] and it's interesting to listen

[1:09:42] about how we need other

[1:09:43] support regre regarding some of

[1:09:46] these services for the homeless

[1:09:47] and behavioral health services

[1:09:50] one of the issues that was

[1:09:51] brought up and actually being

[1:09:53] initiated by some of the members

[1:09:55] of this committee is asking for

[1:09:57] an increase in alcohol tax.

[1:10:00] and I'm asking you guys don't

[1:10:03] have to tell me now what you

[1:10:04] think about it but obviously

[1:10:06] I'll want to know before the

[1:10:07] session starts where does the

[1:10:08] city stand on increase for

[1:10:11] alcohol tax to try to get some

[1:10:13] of these things dealt with as

[1:10:16] I've mentioned in that committee

[1:10:17] hearing, McKinley County already

[1:10:20] has a liquor excise tax at5%.

[1:10:22] what this bill is calling for as

[1:10:26] an additional5% on top of that

[1:10:27] and

[1:10:28] the important thing to remember

[1:10:30] though is that it is

[1:10:32] considerable increase in money

[1:10:34] coming back to Mcinley County.

[1:10:36] You get about a million dollars

[1:10:38] in liquor excise tax now but if

[1:10:41] this additional tax was included

[1:10:45] what I saw on that chart was

[1:10:46] about 2 million that comes back

[1:10:47] to the county for services.

[1:10:49] obviouslybviously the city too

[1:10:51] but I need to know where you

[1:10:53] stand. I haven't voted for that

[1:10:54] bill and I serve on the tax

[1:10:56] committee. I haven't voted for

[1:10:57] it the last two times, but I

[1:10:59] need to know where we are on

[1:11:00] this I know we're going to

[1:11:02] have a separate meeting with the

[1:11:04] chamber. they're going to have a

[1:11:05] separate legislative meeting

[1:11:06] with all of its local

[1:11:07] legislators. I don't know if

[1:11:09] this will be an issue or not but

[1:11:11] I think it's important for the

[1:11:12] members of this committee as you

[1:11:14] see who who's here

[1:11:16] where do you guys stand on

[1:11:18] this? We don't we don't have to

[1:11:19] answer it today but we will need

[1:11:22] to know before the beginning of

[1:11:23] the session

[1:11:25] the other question I had is

[1:11:27] regarding the Navajo Gallup

[1:11:28] water supply project as the

[1:11:30] mayor knows, I have a long long

[1:11:32] history with that project and

[1:11:35] I'd like to ask

[1:11:37] is the proportional cost

[1:11:41] allocated to the s so the the

[1:11:43] cost of the pipeline. it's one

[1:11:45] project with two major pipelines

[1:11:48] so I'm curious is the hickoria

[1:11:51] site open now? iss it up and

[1:11:51] running?

[1:11:55] ma'am OK. so hickory is up and

[1:11:56] running because the state of New

[1:11:58] Mexico has put considerable

[1:11:59] money in this project as match

[1:12:03] you know we have the Indian

[1:12:04] water rights piece in the in the

[1:12:06] budget and we've put a lot of

[1:12:08] money through the New Mexico

[1:12:09] finance Authority through the

[1:12:11] waterterrust board through

[1:12:12] Capital outlay

[1:12:13] to try to offset the match

[1:12:15] that's required by the feds I

[1:12:17] know the city's match is75

[1:12:18] million but we have also tried

[1:12:22] to help with with state funds my

[1:12:25] my question is then have we

[1:12:27] resolved all the match

[1:12:29] requirement for

[1:12:35] madam chair andpresentative

[1:12:37] Lumstrom so the way that the

[1:12:38] project works is that there was

[1:12:41] a repayment contract required

[1:12:43] for hickoryia and for the city

[1:12:45] of Gallup but the biggest part

[1:12:47] of the whole project was the

[1:12:48] settlement amount of50 million

[1:12:50] dollars that the city that the

[1:12:52] state of New Mexico was to pay

[1:12:54] so all of the initial monies

[1:12:56] from the waterrust board there

[1:12:57] was actually some cash and some

[1:12:59] other grant monies that went

[1:13:00] into the project be it for

[1:13:01] actual capitalX projects or cash

[1:13:04] went to the state of New

[1:13:06] Mexico's portion and that was

[1:13:08] that was satisfied in about

[1:13:11] 2017. Since then the rest of the

[1:13:13] monies have been applied either

[1:13:15] to hickoria for their their cost

[1:13:17] what they call their obligation

[1:13:18] or or the city of gallups

[1:13:21] from what from what I understand

[1:13:23] everything on part of the

[1:13:25] hickorya has been satisfied and

[1:13:26] they are in some type of

[1:13:27] repayment contract to make

[1:13:29] sure they repay and thanks to

[1:13:32] all of our congressmen and the

[1:13:35] administ the current

[1:13:35] administration we have a76

[1:13:38] million dollars cost cap because

[1:13:40] of the delay the project went

[1:13:42] from about what we thought would

[1:13:45] be about1.1 billion it's almost

[1:13:46] over 2.3 and of course the

[1:13:48] city's port

[1:13:49] ion of that is is an average of

[1:13:51] about 8%. and so that's a lot

[1:13:55] of money for a town for a small

[1:13:57] town topa so we do have our cost

[1:14:00] gap and we have an any since the

[1:14:02] state's obligation has been met

[1:14:04] any monies that go into the

[1:14:05] Navajo Gallup project. so far we

[1:14:07] have another 8 million coming

[1:14:09] from waterrust board and we

[1:14:10] anticipate another 8 or10

[1:14:12] million for the pumping plant

[1:14:14] each will will be the final

[1:14:14] component of the city system we

[1:14:17] should get full credit for those

[1:14:18] and that'll go

[1:14:19] toward our76 million dollars

[1:14:20] match which should

[1:14:23] finalize all the city's money

[1:14:25] now we do have a loan

[1:14:27] obligations we did get through

[1:14:30] the waterrust board 6040 loans

[1:14:31] so we have about18 million

[1:14:33] dollars in loans we are repaying

[1:14:35] at a much lower percentage rate

[1:14:37] than the federal government the

[1:14:38] federal government's about4% the

[1:14:40] state of New Mexico is about 25%

[1:14:42] so it is a no brainer what we

[1:14:44] did on those so the only the

[1:14:46] only last piece of the puzzle

[1:14:48] is what they call interest

[1:14:50] during construction and that is

[1:14:52] a what this federal government

[1:14:55] charges all the participants

[1:14:57] during the construction portion

[1:14:59] of the project it's not interest

[1:15:01] on loan it's it's interest

[1:15:02] during construction so that

[1:15:03] component is the last thing that

[1:15:05] we are negotiating. We don't

[1:15:06] know if the76 million dollars

[1:15:08] includes the interest during

[1:15:10] construction I'm looking at

[1:15:11] Frank because he's the onen

[1:15:12] working on it or if it's gonna

[1:15:14] or if that's gonna be in charge

[1:15:15] to addition so that's the last

[1:15:17] component that we're worried

[1:15:17] about

[1:15:18] p re s ent ative Lunstrom

[1:15:20] so madam Chair, does that

[1:15:22] mean at least the city's

[1:15:25] responsibility of 676 million is

[1:15:29] resolved it's resolved except

[1:15:31] for the the interest or in

[1:15:32] construction and that interest

[1:15:34] would be at at a4% on the

[1:15:36] remaining components of

[1:15:37] construction which is about

[1:15:40] about $6600 million so that

[1:15:45] has not been resolved yet. We

[1:15:47] still need to with our repayment

[1:15:49] contract our revised re

[1:15:50] pa y ment contract come up with

[1:15:51] a plan and a formula of how we

[1:15:54] will be addressing the interest

[1:15:55] during construction

[1:15:56] and that an interest in

[1:15:58] construction is an elaborate

[1:16:00] thing that the federal

[1:16:01] government came up with 100

[1:16:02] years ago with the bureau of

[1:16:03] reclamation since they built the

[1:16:04] Hooveramm

[1:16:08] p re s ent ed Lonestrom if if I

[1:16:09] can add

[1:16:11] luckily we've minimized gallup's

[1:16:13] interest during

[1:16:18] we've

[1:16:19] we've

[1:16:20] prepaid

[1:16:22] most of ours so as as we get the

[1:16:25] waterru board as as we're

[1:16:26] building we're making those

[1:16:28] payments so they can't try to

[1:16:30] charge us interest when we're

[1:16:32] paying

[1:16:33] going through so we've

[1:16:35] minimized ours our component.

[1:16:38] So really126 million of that 2.1

[1:16:41] billion is going to be coming

[1:16:43] from either gallup or the state

[1:16:45] of New Mexico so I think when

[1:16:47] you look at the cost

[1:16:48] proportionate of the number of

[1:16:50] lines and such I think we're

[1:16:52] coming out pretty fair yeah

[1:16:54] we're coming up very fair.

[1:16:56] I I will speak for our

[1:16:58] surrounding area though we we

[1:17:00] really need to stay on the

[1:17:02] bureau of reclamation

[1:17:02] to ensure that the other

[1:17:05] portions you know we're always

[1:17:07] worried about gallup

[1:17:08] we needed to build pumping

[1:17:11] plant eight and we still need to

[1:17:12] build reach 2712 which goes

[1:17:15] through Caulpa hills and comes

[1:17:16] out by Redhill's mobilele

[1:17:18] Homeark that's the last

[1:17:19] components of gallup

[1:17:21] but but we still have going

[1:17:22] south we we've still got the

[1:17:25] RedRock chapter we've still got

[1:17:27] chielta resprings we have to

[1:17:28] think of our family members who

[1:17:30] live in the county who

[1:17:33] who are still as I said they're

[1:17:35] still gallup even though they

[1:17:36] don't live in the city limits we

[1:17:38] still consider him gallup. So,

[1:17:39] so we need to make sure that

[1:17:41] those are continuing and then of

[1:17:43] course we need to keep ensuring

[1:17:44] that IHs is going to be doing

[1:17:46] their component.'s great to have

[1:17:48] a water line but if it's not

[1:17:49] connected to a house that water

[1:17:51] line doesn't do any good

[1:17:54] so we're we're we're still

[1:17:55] stressing those we're still

[1:17:58] negotiating for we're we're

[1:18:00] going through with continuing

[1:18:02] resolutions every year

[1:18:04] they they still need to pony

[1:18:06] up the federal government needs

[1:18:07] to pony up that final

[1:18:09] to get the full project paid for

[1:18:11] it's not100% paid for at this

[1:18:13] date.

[1:18:15] they've got enough to satisfy

[1:18:16] the contracts that have been

[1:18:17] given this year

[1:18:19] but not those future

[1:18:20] as the southern component's

[1:18:23] going to our brothers and

[1:18:24] sisters south of Gallllup and

[1:18:26] those those components

[1:18:28] the money hasn't come up with

[1:18:29] yet

[1:18:30] so yes we can get water to

[1:18:32] gallup

[1:18:32] but can we get water to all

[1:18:34] those again this is a a rights

[1:18:38] water rights settlement

[1:18:41] gallup's very fortunate to be

[1:18:42] part of it but let's let's

[1:18:44] make sure it does what it's

[1:18:45] intended and and sometimes with

[1:18:47] the federal government we don't

[1:18:48] see that follow through so we

[1:18:50] want to continue lobbying and I

[1:18:52] would really love to think

[1:18:53] Representative Johnson

[1:18:55] andrerepresentative Luundstrom

[1:18:57] for earlier this year going to

[1:18:59] Dc and and helping us open doors

[1:19:02] to talk to the other legislature

[1:19:06] our federal legislators that

[1:19:08] we need to Luhan

[1:19:10] and and and heinrich being very

[1:19:15] instrumental in carrying the

[1:19:17] bills and pushing hard to ensure

[1:19:19] we got the cost cap

[1:19:21] plus

[1:19:22] other allocations to get that

[1:19:25] pumping plant bid out and

[1:19:26] started on construction

[1:19:27] so very big thank you to both of

[1:19:30] you for

[1:19:31] helping take some additional

[1:19:34] muscle up there

[1:19:36] they were our bodyguards on the

[1:19:37] street too

[1:19:39] madam Chair the reason I raised

[1:19:41] this is because if the project

[1:19:43] can't demonstrate beneficial use

[1:19:45] by actual people using it using

[1:19:47] the water we have problems in

[1:19:50] river City and what I mean is

[1:19:52] these chapters have to be part

[1:19:53] of this they are the reason

[1:19:55] we're getting this. it's an

[1:19:57] Indian water rights settlement

[1:19:58] without the chapters we ain't

[1:20:00] got a project. So I I think we

[1:20:03] got a whatever those hiccups

[1:20:06] are this is the right committee

[1:20:07] to hear that and I'd like to

[1:20:10] get something in writing from

[1:20:12] you Frank all of us would just

[1:20:14] so we know what we need to be

[1:20:16] talking about

[1:20:19] because we're we don't mind

[1:20:20] going back we don't mind

[1:20:21] fighting for this and

[1:20:22] working with the Navajo Nation

[1:20:24] and whoever but we got to know

[1:20:26] what we're fighting for and I

[1:20:28] think we have to demonstrate

[1:20:29] beneficial use and that means

[1:20:30] that these chapters need to be

[1:20:32] hooked up. Thank you madam

[1:20:33] Chair. Thank you Representative

[1:20:35] Lindstrom. and and and I will

[1:20:37] assure you north

[1:20:38] we have supported all the

[1:20:40] additional reaches. the reach

[1:20:42] going from down route 9 to

[1:20:45] Coyote Canyon sandingRock all

[1:20:49] the way to Crown pointint we we

[1:20:50] supported the reaches going from

[1:20:52] ya to hai to to Sebonito

[1:20:55] winnderrock we supported the

[1:20:56] ones closer to sheepsprings

[1:21:00] and and Nachiri going west to to

[1:21:02] the chapters off of491. of

[1:21:05] course all all of them down491.

[1:21:07] we've also supported going east

[1:21:09] down Padre CanyonRoad towards

[1:21:12] RedRock Park, ChurchRock,

[1:21:13] Yimbato we're we're ensuring

[1:21:14] that that water delivery is also

[1:21:16] there in the mechanisms

[1:21:18] they're talking now about

[1:21:20] addinguppton. I know it's going

[1:21:22] out of your jurisdiction but

[1:21:23] they're talking going west so

[1:21:24] that's part portion of yours

[1:21:25] through mintmore to the state

[1:21:29] line but then going on touppton

[1:21:33] and Sanders and and you know

[1:21:34] we've been very supportive of

[1:21:36] that also even even offering

[1:21:38] to take

[1:21:38] the land from

[1:21:41] yata ha going that way so you

[1:21:43] know we're supporting that I

[1:21:45] will say right now until this

[1:21:46] project is finished we're we're

[1:21:49] holding off doing full support

[1:21:51] for the western Navajo

[1:21:54] settlement it's a different

[1:21:56] river basin it and in arizona

[1:22:00] as you look at the western part

[1:22:01] of the arizona they're they're

[1:22:04] wanting water out of the

[1:22:05] Colorado and and of course

[1:22:06] that's the lower basin a lot

[1:22:08] more political you're now

[1:22:10] dealing with Nevada

[1:22:11] Montana

[1:22:13] Utah, Nevada arizona, or and and

[1:22:18] it's getting a lot more

[1:22:19] political where the upper basin

[1:22:22] we've already got our

[1:22:22] settlement. let's get it built

[1:22:24] and closed and then throw our

[1:22:27] support to to our brothers and

[1:22:28] sisters in in arizona. until

[1:22:31] then though againuppton that

[1:22:34] area we're throwing our support

[1:22:35] because it it's it's different

[1:22:38] they're in our watershed

[1:22:39] right now and and and we can

[1:22:41] prove that Gallup

[1:22:43] where our real perco goes it's

[1:22:45] going through their communities

[1:22:47] let's give them water so the one

[1:22:48] I'm really advocating for right

[1:22:50] now is we've got the north we've

[1:22:51] got the east west is just

[1:22:53] proposed at this date

[1:22:54] but South is on paper

[1:22:56] but we haven't seen any

[1:22:58] construction

[1:22:59] those are the ones that we're

[1:23:00] needing to stand up for

[1:23:02] and and that goes to the zuni

[1:23:04] watershed so you're looking at

[1:23:06] the chapters of ed rock read

[1:23:08] springs and Chichota.

[1:23:11] those three chapters we want to

[1:23:13] ensure that water is getting

[1:23:14] down there and I will say they

[1:23:15] will be ahead of the game as

[1:23:16] soon as this gets there because

[1:23:18] NTUA has a lot of those feeder

[1:23:20] routes already going.

[1:23:22] so as soon as we can supply

[1:23:24] additional water, those other

[1:23:26] homes can be added quicker

[1:23:30] thank youthing elseres

[1:23:31] representative just met madam

[1:23:34] chairir I just like to make sure

[1:23:35] that that we get something in

[1:23:36] writing before we have our big

[1:23:38] legislative meeting for the

[1:23:39] local legislators do you guys

[1:23:40] always do that for us in

[1:23:42] November or December the other

[1:23:43] thing is is that I wanted to ask

[1:23:44] Elo

[1:23:50] want to make sure these chapters

[1:23:52] are knowledgeable about what's

[1:23:53] going on. I mean we got to be in

[1:23:55] the game here

[1:23:56] thank you madam chair

[1:23:57] thank you madam chairir one nice

[1:23:59] to answer Representative

[1:24:01] Lunstrom's first question

[1:24:02] yes I'm I'm not gonna say no

[1:24:05] because debo hit me

[1:24:07] we have always actively pursued

[1:24:09] that extra tax again we are

[1:24:13] moving from seeing liquor

[1:24:15] addiction it's still a major

[1:24:17] issue we're starting to see more

[1:24:19] fentanyl meth, those type of

[1:24:22] addictions but we still have the

[1:24:23] alcohol and that alcohol tax

[1:24:26] does fund the other programs

[1:24:28] that are helping with the other

[1:24:30] addictions we see addiction

[1:24:32] as an addiction whether it's

[1:24:33] alcohol it it is a drug so that

[1:24:36] that extra million dollars

[1:24:38] that's coming in we can go

[1:24:40] beyond NCI the housing the

[1:24:42] intake the offers we can go more

[1:24:46] into treatment and and those

[1:24:48] type of things the the

[1:24:49] the year of transition type

[1:24:55] stuff that I was discussing we

[1:24:57] can do a lot more right now that

[1:24:59] first million is really just

[1:25:00] going to

[1:25:01] our initial programs of tracking

[1:25:05] offering services those type

[1:25:08] of things and of course NCI

[1:25:09] itself which is vital in our

[1:25:11] area but but an extra million

[1:25:13] dollars on top being financed by

[1:25:15] the drug itself it is is

[1:25:20] powerful now if you guys can get

[1:25:20] that more you know we're using

[1:25:22] our marijuana tax money for

[1:25:23] parks and recreation and

[1:25:25] prevention at the youth level

[1:25:29] and and it'll be amiss to say

[1:25:32] deb's groups have all been

[1:25:34] talking to us it's not just an

[1:25:36] added tax. it's limiting the

[1:25:39] number where it can come from

[1:25:42] and if that's possibility that

[1:25:44] would be wonderful too. We are

[1:25:45] seeing the outnumber of alcohol

[1:25:47] establishments in Gallup go

[1:25:48] down?

[1:25:49] but then we're seeing the

[1:25:51] recreational marijuana stuff

[1:25:53] exploding and and if we can get

[1:25:57] a balance amongst them all and

[1:26:00] and and more of a limit

[1:26:02] it it it helps our law

[1:26:03] enforcement with the the DWi or

[1:26:07] driving impaired again the

[1:26:09] more you spread it out

[1:26:10] the harder it is to track the

[1:26:12] harder it is to control and and

[1:26:14] those type of things so if if

[1:26:18] we can limit to where it's more

[1:26:21] manageable

[1:26:21] that would be a lot bigger help

[1:26:23] too

[1:26:25] thank you I have Representative

[1:26:27] Garcia

[1:26:30] thank you madam chair and

[1:26:32] colleagues on the Indian

[1:26:34] affairs committeetee I have a

[1:26:36] number of questions that I would

[1:26:38] like to ask. let me go ahead and

[1:26:39] ask all of them just so you can

[1:26:40] be able to respond to those

[1:26:45] he first of all I also want

[1:26:47] to support and

[1:26:48] say that we do need documents on

[1:26:51] the waterline issue that is

[1:26:54] happening you stated a number

[1:26:57] of numbers and data and

[1:27:00] whatever that that you have

[1:27:03] talked about but if you can put

[1:27:04] that in writing it would be

[1:27:05] easier for us to see what

[1:27:07] what has been made and what's

[1:27:09] what is still needed in those

[1:27:12] areas and a number of people

[1:27:16] and chapters and I guess

[1:27:19] population that

[1:27:19] ' s impacted and will benefit

[1:27:22] from this so if you can provide

[1:27:23] that to us as soon as possible

[1:27:26] like you've done with this

[1:27:27] emergency warming center

[1:27:30] with that what's what section

[1:27:33] of the city government is

[1:27:35] responsible for the emergency

[1:27:37] warming centre

[1:27:38] or was

[1:27:42] madam chair we were the fiscal

[1:27:45] agent

[1:27:45] for that through behavioral

[1:27:45] health

[1:27:48] and who was

[1:27:57] implementing the emergency

[1:27:59] center madam Chair

[1:28:01] Representative Garcia umallllup

[1:28:03] Community Health was the lead

[1:28:05] agency for the

[1:28:08] the implementation howard

[1:28:11] Johnson we rented the two

[1:28:12] ballrooms as a facility we also

[1:28:16] had gallup transnsit do the

[1:28:17] transportation out

[1:28:21] gallupunity antry donated some

[1:28:22] food so it was a well we all

[1:28:24] collaborated together to work on

[1:28:26] this

[1:28:27] and then workforce solutions

[1:28:30] officeice of housing gave us the

[1:28:31] emergency funding and how long

[1:28:34] has this been in operation?

[1:28:36] Madam Cha Representative Garcia

[1:28:38] this was only a pilot project

[1:28:40] just one year which is a

[1:28:45] not even it's like december 22

[1:28:46] through September 28hre

[1:28:47] representative 2.5

[1:28:54] this is just to address people

[1:28:56] that need a place during the

[1:28:57] winter

[1:28:59] but in the meantime we also are

[1:29:02] very much aware of that unho

[1:29:04] individuals within the city

[1:29:08] I'm aware of that these

[1:29:10] individuals

[1:29:11] are coming and going at various

[1:29:14] times but most of them continue

[1:29:17] to be within the city

[1:29:19] and I'm aware that these

[1:29:23] unhealth individual had

[1:29:24] established a camp down by the

[1:29:27] river by the railroad track but

[1:29:29] that has been cleaned out and

[1:29:31] they're no longer there I'm just

[1:29:33] wondering where did they go

[1:29:35] where where are they now that

[1:29:38] I'm sure there are other areas

[1:29:40] that they have been establishing

[1:29:42] and have been going to these

[1:29:44] places

[1:29:46] where are where are they now?

[1:29:49] madam chairir Representative

[1:29:51] Garcia, they do have different

[1:29:53] locations where they move

[1:29:54] throughout the city the city

[1:29:57] does do the camp cleanups

[1:30:00] they clean them up and they're

[1:30:01] back in those locations probably

[1:30:03] within a couple of weeks

[1:30:06] we do have a an independent

[1:30:07] shelter and a shelter at NI

[1:30:12] part of our population about43%

[1:30:16] of those are intakes for shelter

[1:30:18] so we do have that and then the

[1:30:20] independent livinggrame where

[1:30:22] they can come stay leave their

[1:30:24] stuff we do personal

[1:30:27] improvement plan with them we

[1:30:28] have them see a counselor and

[1:30:31] then we have them attend groups

[1:30:33] and then we even just got

[1:30:34] bikes recently so they can go

[1:30:36] look for

[1:30:38] so we have different shelter

[1:30:40] components in NCI

[1:30:44] I see that between December

[1:30:49] 22 and February 28h of this past

[1:30:50] year you have had 2971

[1:30:54] intakes but you were only 636

[1:30:59] were able to receive services

[1:31:02] and be able to utilize the

[1:31:05] warming center so looking at

[1:31:08] that on a yearround basis that

[1:31:10] would really probably triple it

[1:31:13] even more

[1:31:14] people that would be seeking

[1:31:16] services are just be just

[1:31:20] unhouse in the area what is the

[1:31:23] city doing to address that

[1:31:26] madam chairirpresentative Garcia

[1:31:28] we did see a decrease in our

[1:31:30] shelter population at NCI so we

[1:31:34] and we saw the increase at the

[1:31:36] warming shelter the warming

[1:31:38] shelter had

[1:31:38] more relaxed rules whereas

[1:31:42] the detox center it's a a little

[1:31:44] more strict so we've seen that

[1:31:46] population just go to the

[1:31:47] the warming

[1:31:52] I guess my my question is ok we

[1:31:54] have a number of individuals

[1:31:57] that are on house they they're

[1:32:00] here where everybody sees that

[1:32:02] what is the city doing besides

[1:32:04] doing the warming center center

[1:32:07] are depending on NCI what what

[1:32:10] are we doing to to assist and

[1:32:13] any programs anything that's

[1:32:17] being planned for them

[1:32:21] madam chairir Representative

[1:32:24] Garcia like again we're doing

[1:32:24] our our outreach where we're

[1:32:27] trying to make contact with them

[1:32:28] to to get to the root of the

[1:32:31] issues and refer them to

[1:32:33] agencies or programs that

[1:32:36] that will help them but

[1:32:39] again, a lot of these people

[1:32:41] don't want to go to the warming

[1:32:42] center

[1:32:43] because

[1:32:44] they cannot be using alcohol or

[1:32:46] drugs while in the warming

[1:32:48] center

[1:32:50] they don't want to go to NCI

[1:32:52] because if they are intoxicated

[1:32:55] and they have multiple they're

[1:32:57] having to spend longer time

[1:32:59] there and they don't want to

[1:33:00] they went out the next day

[1:33:02] they're looking for their next

[1:33:03] day's fix I hate to say

[1:33:05] so so we have a lot of these

[1:33:07] that are making a choice

[1:33:08] to be unhoused they're making

[1:33:11] that choice we can offer them

[1:33:13] services

[1:33:13] but

[1:33:15] again those services are clean

[1:33:18] to be clean to be getting help

[1:33:21] and and if they don't want that

[1:33:22] they

[1:33:24] they they're gonna live in the

[1:33:28] ditch they would prefer to live

[1:33:29] in the ditch they would be live

[1:33:31] on the side of a somebody's

[1:33:33] house those type of things

[1:33:35] they are adding a huge cost to

[1:33:39] our homeowners and business

[1:33:41] owners because if they're on

[1:33:43] private land state of New Mexico

[1:33:45] inki donations we cannot clean

[1:33:46] up

[1:33:47] if it's private land. So if they

[1:33:49] choose a a portion of a ditch

[1:33:51] that

[1:33:52] is in a business property we

[1:33:55] can't clean it up. law

[1:33:56] enforcement can move them along

[1:33:58] but we can't come in and clean

[1:33:59] it up. it it's a high expense. I

[1:34:02] will say a lot of programs are

[1:34:03] trying to help feed

[1:34:06] they are coming in we have a

[1:34:08] number of projects that that

[1:34:10] feed on a daily basis different

[1:34:12] areas of town and and then we

[1:34:14] have a couple of others that

[1:34:15] provide showers stuff like that

[1:34:17] we're just hoping they're doing

[1:34:18] those intakes and offering the

[1:34:20] help

[1:34:21] not just we feel good we fed you

[1:34:24] but more we're trying to guild

[1:34:25] your trust to get you into a

[1:34:27] program

[1:34:28] thank you for that information

[1:34:31] and madam chair my last

[1:34:33] question would be about the

[1:34:38] because I've I've I I'm aware

[1:34:40] of this experience the city

[1:34:43] employees or anyone that

[1:34:45] deals with the population

[1:34:48] that is unhoused or better known

[1:34:51] as homeless

[1:34:54] they come here and they you know

[1:34:54] they

[1:34:55] they are here because of their

[1:35:01] own problems issues whatever

[1:35:03] their they're here and working

[1:35:05] with one another and what are

[1:35:08] we

[1:35:09] doing any kind of training for

[1:35:12] these employees so they are

[1:35:14] sensitive to the situation and

[1:35:17] and they're not prejudiced

[1:35:19] against them and do what they

[1:35:21] can to help help them when

[1:35:25] when it comes to that do they

[1:35:29] receive specialized training

[1:35:31] to prevent discrimination or any

[1:35:35] kind of treatment for these

[1:35:39] individual I know it's really

[1:35:39] hard to

[1:35:40] tolerate and and deal with a

[1:35:43] situation

[1:35:46] because it's individual

[1:35:48] choices that have been made but

[1:35:50] they're still here and

[1:35:52] they're still part of become

[1:35:54] part of our community while back

[1:35:56] a while ago you said that even

[1:35:58] though the chapters south are

[1:36:01] not part of members of gallup

[1:36:04] but remember I come in about

[1:36:06] every week to pick up hay to

[1:36:10] pick up food and I become a

[1:36:12] member of gallup and contribute

[1:36:14] to to gallup

[1:36:15] ll up in whatever way possible

[1:36:17] even though I live in Ceepola

[1:36:19] County so based on that I

[1:36:23] just want to make sure that

[1:36:26] our people whoever they are re

[1:36:30] whether they'renavajozunni

[1:36:33] non natives that they receive a

[1:36:37] fair treatment and and not

[1:36:38] make fun of that's where I'm

[1:36:41] coming from

[1:36:44] madam chairir Representative

[1:36:45] Garcia we do have a grow our own

[1:36:47] program where we bring in

[1:36:49] counselors and we coach

[1:36:51] individuals into thehavi health

[1:36:53] field and then we take them out

[1:36:54] to do outreach and coach them

[1:36:56] how to interact we provide

[1:36:58] trauma informed care and we also

[1:37:00] have our evaluator come in and

[1:37:03] do a random fidelity checks with

[1:37:05] our groups our counselors and

[1:37:08] then we have them meet with

[1:37:09] young shelter to make sure that

[1:37:11] we are we are provi

[1:37:24] So I hope that it the

[1:37:27] training and working with these

[1:37:31] individuals goes all the way up

[1:37:33] and down from the mayor on down

[1:37:35] that that we do everything we

[1:37:38] can help because we we are

[1:37:41] responsible to our communities

[1:37:43] and our people

[1:37:47] thank you representative vice

[1:37:50] chairir Johnson

[1:37:51] thank you madam chairir. I would

[1:37:54] like to go back well let's go

[1:37:56] ahead and continue with the

[1:37:58] emergency warming center. do you

[1:38:01] have a cost a cost estimate

[1:38:04] or who took care of

[1:38:05] funding that program

[1:38:08] or how how did we fund it? Madam

[1:38:09] Chair Representative Johnson

[1:38:11] workforcelu

[1:38:13] gave us175,000

[1:38:16] I can say that was not enough a

[1:38:19] lot of these programs

[1:38:20] donated a lot

[1:38:25] Thank you and then

[1:38:27] can you give us an update on

[1:38:30] if any or

[1:38:34] for example, Navajo Nation or

[1:38:37] our surrounding neighbors

[1:38:41] tribal communities pueblo

[1:38:46] interest or assistance or

[1:38:48] support from them regarding

[1:38:50] this program and then I lost

[1:38:56] track of how we support NCI

[1:38:58] Thank you.

[1:38:59] madam chairirpresentative

[1:39:03] Johnson we received2 million

[1:39:03] dollars from IHs

[1:39:05] and that funds the majority

[1:39:07] operations of the detox center.

[1:39:09] We also receive 835,000 from the

[1:39:13] local liquor excise tax to fund

[1:39:15] the base services at NCI.

[1:39:18] and madam chairir

[1:39:22] senator, I mean

[1:39:23] senatorpresentative Johnson

[1:39:25] to expand that to we've we've

[1:39:27] just begun talks the mayor did

[1:39:28] talk with Presidentyren.

[1:39:31] he was very receptive and and

[1:39:33] looking at opening their

[1:39:35] treatment facility in Phoenix

[1:39:37] and and creating that type of

[1:39:38] part partnership

[1:39:40] council delegate

[1:39:41] Eray.

[1:39:43] Nelson if I remember right it

[1:39:46] has has actually talked with me

[1:39:48] and said you know these are our

[1:39:49] family members going to town.

[1:39:51] What help do they need to bring

[1:39:54] him home and and why aren't they

[1:39:54] being accepted at home was his

[1:39:56] biggest concern

[1:39:58] so so we are starting to see

[1:40:00] some threads starting to weave

[1:40:02] together of how can we work

[1:40:04] together it's slow and and and

[1:40:06] we'd love to see it getting

[1:40:08] deeper thicker thicker

[1:40:10] woven to where we're all

[1:40:13] working towards the same thing

[1:40:15] cause yes they are coming from

[1:40:16] surrounding areas like

[1:40:18] Representative Garcia said but

[1:40:20] we consider us all

[1:40:22] from the same area so however

[1:40:25] we can work with these other

[1:40:27] legislative bodies. I mean

[1:40:32] sovereign sovereignty to to

[1:40:32] other groups and other areas we

[1:40:35] we would love to to come

[1:40:36] together

[1:40:37] so madam vice chair and

[1:40:39] so I just recently last week

[1:40:43] went through because with a a

[1:40:46] company or

[1:40:47] the behavioral health people

[1:40:50] that working that are working

[1:40:52] with thenavajo nation that do

[1:40:53] have a contract with the Navajo

[1:40:54] Nation now operating in arizona

[1:40:57] so it's trying to bring them

[1:40:58] here to New Mexico so that was

[1:41:00] just beginning discussions just

[1:41:02] had a real good meeting last

[1:41:04] week a lot a lot

[1:41:07] to do that we don't have but

[1:41:11] I do caution to that they they

[1:41:13] do have like veterans facilities

[1:41:15] too and all kinds of

[1:41:17] but we'll talk more about that

[1:41:18] but there there is something

[1:41:19] going on right now

[1:41:23] OK thank you. I I was wondering

[1:41:24] maybe we could entertain if we

[1:41:26] don't already have a

[1:41:30] multidisciplinary team or group

[1:41:31] or committee within our

[1:41:33] county or city and the reason

[1:41:36] why I say that is because I work

[1:41:39] at the hospital and we have the

[1:41:41] same types of

[1:41:43] patients constituents

[1:41:47] individuals some of them driving

[1:41:49] across the state one way or the

[1:41:52] other getting stranded after an

[1:41:55] emergency room treatment

[1:41:57] our own folks having no place to

[1:42:00] go after discharge, having no

[1:42:02] transportation after discharge

[1:42:04] and then our referrals are NCI

[1:42:08] and you know where else wherever

[1:42:09] else we can find help even

[1:42:13] having to call the chaptershojo

[1:42:18] so just the thought and then

[1:42:20] my other question is about

[1:42:23] the water line

[1:42:25] I represent Eastern Agency so

[1:42:28] the water line from standingRock

[1:42:32] to Crown Point and that reach I

[1:42:35] am advocating for. I understand

[1:42:37] there's a10 million dollars

[1:42:38] shortfall? do you know anything

[1:42:41] about that or the specifics?

[1:42:43] Thank you.

[1:42:46] madam chairir Representative

[1:42:48] Johnson, I'm not too sure

[1:42:49] exactly what the10 million

[1:42:50] dollars is. I know there's a

[1:42:52] bunch of different

[1:42:54] projects that came out of that

[1:42:56] main line that went from that

[1:42:57] went along the was that 99

[1:43:02] they're and it might be

[1:43:02] something that they're they're

[1:43:04] gonna try to get state funding

[1:43:05] for and it might be just

[1:43:06] tributary off the main line but

[1:43:08] I'm not too aware I know the

[1:43:10] whole project has about a500

[1:43:11] million dollars shortfall right

[1:43:13] now which Frank talked about

[1:43:15] which needs and it's and and it

[1:43:16] might be included in that

[1:43:19] thank you

[1:43:20] and just want to thank you

[1:43:22] for your presentation and you

[1:43:24] know as well as I do that

[1:43:26] water lines to our homes is very

[1:43:28] important. I have both

[1:43:30] experiences. I live in the city

[1:43:32] of Gallup but I also have a

[1:43:35] homestead about 20 miles

[1:43:36] northeast of here and

[1:43:38] I had an incident hauling water

[1:43:41] for my trees so

[1:43:49] re s ent ed thank you madam

[1:43:50] chairir.

[1:43:51] thank you madam vice chair.

[1:43:54] Representative roybalcaballero

[1:43:56] thank you madam chair and thank

[1:43:58] you for your presentations. I

[1:44:00] thank you topresentative Garcia

[1:44:02] and others for raising their

[1:44:04] questions because they covered

[1:44:05] most of what I wanted. So I'm

[1:44:07] going to zero in on just a few

[1:44:08] things

[1:44:10] in terms of the intake and I'm

[1:44:12] raising these questions because

[1:44:14] I

[1:44:15] in my previous career I'm

[1:44:18] clinical social worker dealing

[1:44:20] with substance and alcohol abuse

[1:44:22] individuals and families

[1:44:24] needs and so it's important to

[1:44:27] me to get these type of

[1:44:28] questions out. so in the intake

[1:44:31] process and the only information

[1:44:33] I have is relevant to what you

[1:44:34] passed out here in terms of the

[1:44:36] emergency warming center when

[1:44:39] intake and it applies to NCI and

[1:44:43] wherever else intake is done

[1:44:46] what is the professional

[1:44:48] preparation of the persons that

[1:44:50] are doing the intake.

[1:44:52] that's question one

[1:44:55] madam chairirpresentative

[1:45:01] roybalcaballero sorry

[1:45:04] when we did the the emergency

[1:45:07] shelter Gallllupunity Health had

[1:45:07] a one on one training and all

[1:45:09] day training and they did

[1:45:12] hire people who had shelter

[1:45:13] experience and worked with

[1:45:16] the unsheltered one of them did

[1:45:19] the burrito project who was the

[1:45:20] manager who holds

[1:45:22] Monthly events for the

[1:45:26] unsheltered and offers them

[1:45:27] showers and things like that so

[1:45:29] a lot of the the individuals who

[1:45:31] were hired had training or

[1:45:33] experience within that and then

[1:45:36] our intake process this was a

[1:45:38] little different

[1:45:41] we didn't have it so much

[1:45:42] clinical at the emergency

[1:45:43] warming shelter but at the the

[1:45:46] detox center we do have a

[1:45:48] counselor who does the expert

[1:45:50] screening with them and then we

[1:45:51] try and get them into treatment

[1:45:53] once they're discharged the

[1:45:55] numbers that were given within

[1:45:56] those 1000 we're only with the

[1:46:00] twelvehour holds that are

[1:46:01] discharged

[1:46:02] Monday through Friday.

[1:46:05] thank you so madam chair the the

[1:46:07] whole point about intake in

[1:46:09] general just the intake in

[1:46:10] general and why the preparation

[1:46:12] of those that are taking intake

[1:46:14] is so critically important is

[1:46:16] based on all the issues that you

[1:46:18] all described madam chairir. and

[1:46:20] that is that we have

[1:46:22] individuals that

[1:46:23] alcohol substance abuse

[1:46:29] mental health, s possible

[1:46:31] medical issues as well and so

[1:46:34] the intake process is not just a

[1:46:36] process of taking an application

[1:46:38] or interviewing it's a what I

[1:46:42] would view an indepth look at

[1:46:45] the person who's sitting in

[1:46:47] front of you in depth and

[1:46:49] looking at that person madam

[1:46:50] chair holistically to try to get

[1:46:53] to the root the whole idea for

[1:46:54] all of us

[1:46:55] is to get to the root causes of

[1:46:58] why we're seeing these kinds of

[1:47:00] symptoms and and reliance on

[1:47:06] or lack of reliance on on self

[1:47:10] so I I would stress that that

[1:47:12] the intake process in general

[1:47:16] where whether it's in the

[1:47:18] warming center or whether it's

[1:47:19] an NCI or wherever it happens it

[1:47:22] really is the place where you

[1:47:23] have the actual professional

[1:47:26] preparation and you you have a

[1:47:29] lot of resources here or in

[1:47:32] the neighboring areas with

[1:47:33] universities I know that

[1:47:36] there's student interns work

[1:47:39] work experience that are already

[1:47:42] in their3rd and4th year those

[1:47:44] are perfect places for this

[1:47:47] placements intake. So I would

[1:47:52] just

[1:47:53] I think we're all trying to get

[1:47:54] at a comprehensive approach to

[1:47:56] try to resolve these problems.

[1:47:59] and aspresentative Garcia

[1:48:00] mentioned we have an obligation

[1:48:03] these are our people we have

[1:48:05] an obligation to make sure we do

[1:48:06] this so we don't want madam

[1:48:09] chairir individuals a revolving

[1:48:10] door we want

[1:48:12] an end to this and so how we get

[1:48:16] to that is by trying to look at

[1:48:18] the whole person, the whole

[1:48:20] family and then try to reach the

[1:48:23] root causes so that

[1:48:25] it was mentioned several times

[1:48:29] that that the these are

[1:48:32] choices that are being made by

[1:48:35] these individuals to go back

[1:48:37] to the

[1:48:39] it

[1:48:42] it's not necessarily a choice

[1:48:45] it's how they see themselves

[1:48:47] relative to society in general

[1:48:51] and there's no place for these

[1:48:52] persons. there's no place there

[1:48:55] there and so there's a reason

[1:48:58] why

[1:48:58] we use different terminology

[1:49:02] we're moving away from

[1:49:03] homelessness we're now trying to

[1:49:04] move away from unhoused in the

[1:49:07] arena of social work and

[1:49:09] casework because

[1:49:10] we we can't take an attitude

[1:49:16] or perspective or

[1:49:17] or a prejudice in any form or

[1:49:22] fashion and then

[1:49:24] by by stating that it's their

[1:49:27] choice. Yes, they may go back

[1:49:30] but there's a reason why they're

[1:49:31] going back

[1:49:33] and I I would strongly

[1:49:35] look at taking a comprehensive

[1:49:38] approach one stop, share the

[1:49:41] resources that are available

[1:49:42] under one roof and then be able

[1:49:45] to address those needs

[1:49:47] uhpresentative vice chairir

[1:49:48] Johnson mentioned the medical

[1:49:50] the hospital there's medical

[1:49:52] institutions here they need

[1:49:54] to be

[1:49:55] involved because we don't we

[1:49:58] don't know what the medical, uh,

[1:50:00] wellbeing of that person is or

[1:50:01] or the family or the children so

[1:50:04] I I just encourage you to kind

[1:50:07] of move away from

[1:50:10] treating the intake process as

[1:50:13] just an filling out forms

[1:50:16] process and looking at it from a

[1:50:18] more indepth comprehensive

[1:50:20] way and that so one final

[1:50:23] question and you may not be able

[1:50:25] to answer that madam chairir

[1:50:26] right now but I'd like to

[1:50:29] know what the percentage all the

[1:50:31] funding that you mentioned that

[1:50:33] has been coming in either

[1:50:34] through the federal or however

[1:50:36] else the all the other funding

[1:50:38] what percentage goes directly to

[1:50:40] direct service and what

[1:50:41] percentage goes to

[1:50:42] administration. I know that

[1:50:44] there are limits by funding

[1:50:47] sources in terms of

[1:50:49] administration but I'd be

[1:50:51] curious to see how much is

[1:50:52] actually going into direct

[1:50:53] service and then the longevity

[1:50:56] of of the service you you

[1:51:01] kind of address it

[1:51:02] in just this warming center but

[1:51:06] I think in general it would

[1:51:08] help to be able to look at

[1:51:12] how long

[1:51:14] why they're not staying the

[1:51:16] questions should be asked why

[1:51:18] did they come to gallup in the

[1:51:19] first place

[1:51:21] and what are they seeking when

[1:51:24] and then

[1:51:25] a lot of questions there's a lot

[1:51:29] of questions we need to ask but

[1:51:31] anyway, madam chair if you

[1:51:34] can answer that right now that's

[1:51:35] fine. I don't want to take too

[1:51:36] much more time but if you can

[1:51:37] provide that to the film I mean

[1:51:39] to the committee that would be

[1:51:40] helpful. Thank you.

[1:51:42] madam chairir, umpresentativeRoy

[1:51:44] Ball umabbriero

[1:51:47] we didn't take any funding from

[1:51:50] the emergency shelter that went

[1:51:52] all directly this was a pilot

[1:51:54] project and we wanted to have it

[1:51:56] low barrier so that included

[1:51:58] not as many questions during the

[1:52:01] intake process because we didn't

[1:52:02] want to screen anybody out at

[1:52:04] the beginning and then for the

[1:52:06] other funding the IHS funding

[1:52:10] it funds my salary and another

[1:52:11] employee and we go I'm the

[1:52:14] program manager and we only have

[1:52:15] two staff in our behavioral

[1:52:16] health to imp

[1:52:19] le ment the services that

[1:52:20] detox the rest is contracted it

[1:52:21] out.

[1:52:22] thank you madam chairir and

[1:52:24] and so there's no other intake

[1:52:27] process that occurs outside of

[1:52:30] the warming center

[1:52:31] don't you have an intake process

[1:52:32] at NTI also madam chairir yes

[1:52:35] that's different with a a

[1:52:38] licensed counselor OK thank you

[1:52:39] madam chair thank you

[1:52:40] thank you thank youpresentative

[1:52:43] um'm very excited to have the

[1:52:45] people I talked to talk to you

[1:52:46] guys because they take care of

[1:52:48] everything from the intake all

[1:52:50] the way to the resources it's

[1:52:51] just really dynamic even the

[1:52:54] court orders it was very very

[1:52:56] ' m very jealous but senator

[1:53:00] Charlie

[1:53:02] thank you madam chair and thank

[1:53:03] you presenters for being here

[1:53:05] this morning and for the work

[1:53:06] you're doing to take care of

[1:53:07] your community. the first

[1:53:09] question I had was of the

[1:53:11] clients who came into the

[1:53:13] worming center were any of those

[1:53:14] children?

[1:53:19] Madam chair on the corner we

[1:53:21] had

[1:53:28] six families and18 adults thank

[1:53:28] you thank you

[1:53:30] and then it was mentioned

[1:53:31] earlier that graduates of the

[1:53:34] detox program weren't able to go

[1:53:37] home because of cost two part

[1:53:38] question is is there a

[1:53:40] willingness to go home to

[1:53:41] participants want to go home and

[1:53:43] is it just is it a a barrier is

[1:53:46] it a cost barrier to get them

[1:53:48] home if

[1:53:51] madam chair senator umarrlie

[1:53:55] a lot of these individuals have

[1:53:56] family dynamics where they've

[1:54:00] drank a lot and the family

[1:54:01] doesn't want him home so it's

[1:54:04] about building those bridges

[1:54:06] we've had instances where

[1:54:08] people want bus pass we do offer

[1:54:10] them bus passes if they want to

[1:54:12] go home and we offer them the

[1:54:14] ability to call their family

[1:54:17] to let them know they're at

[1:54:18] detox. Most don't take them

[1:54:20] up on that offer and if they

[1:54:23] do not live in

[1:54:24] gallup we do offer them a bus

[1:54:26] pass or train ticket if they

[1:54:30] want to return home. OK thank

[1:54:30] you and then the next question

[1:54:32] is about your last slide here

[1:54:33] the NCI intake the breakdown

[1:54:37] of numbers doesn't tell me how

[1:54:40] many participants that is is

[1:54:41] that the total 2971 or is that a

[1:54:44] different total?

[1:54:47] the total on that is1006

[1:54:52] this is for NCI not for the

[1:54:53] warming clinic and this is only

[1:54:55] for the tw2 hour hold. so those

[1:54:58] individuals that came in they

[1:55:00] blew a.20 1 zeroed out we

[1:55:04] have to meet with a counselor

[1:55:05] offer them services if they're

[1:55:07] interested in treatment we do a

[1:55:09] warm handoff to four corners or

[1:55:11] even Albuquerque, Las Cruces

[1:55:13] wherever they want to go and we

[1:55:15] coordinate with medicaid to do

[1:55:17] transport. thank you and then

[1:55:19] I didn't get a comprehensive

[1:55:20] picture

[1:55:21] of the total cost. there's

[1:55:24] not a budget associated with the

[1:55:25] emergency warming center is

[1:55:27] it175,000 plus inkind donations

[1:55:29] repres us

[1:55:33] madam chair senator Charlie yes

[1:55:36] and do you have a breakdown of

[1:55:37] what those inkind donation

[1:55:38] totals are

[1:55:40] I don't

[1:55:42] in thinking about a potential

[1:55:44] fiscal agent that those are the

[1:55:46] questions that I'm thinking

[1:55:47] about right who can sustain a

[1:55:49] program of this budget. I mean

[1:55:51] you've said that the city would

[1:55:52] be willing to be a fiscal agent.

[1:55:54] do you have potential entities

[1:55:57] ready to step in and continue

[1:55:59] the program?

[1:56:04] Gallllupun madam chairir,

[1:56:06] Senator Charlie Gel Community

[1:56:06] Health has shared interest with

[1:56:09] wanting to continue they

[1:56:10] actually wanted to do a cooling

[1:56:11] center this summer just

[1:56:13] it got cool before we got to it

[1:56:16] it's it's already getting nippy

[1:56:18] falls falls here so so we've

[1:56:21] already got Gallup Community

[1:56:22] Health and and several other

[1:56:23] entities wanting to again it

[1:56:27] comes down to having the

[1:56:30] backbone which came from

[1:56:32] that175,000

[1:56:36] something like that to to get it

[1:56:38] going and then they're in income

[1:56:39] can sustain for a short period

[1:56:42] of time but without the infuse

[1:56:44] of that original money

[1:56:46] not even the city of Gallup

[1:56:48] has the the capacity right now.

[1:56:50] Sure thank you madam Chair.

[1:56:52] so this it sounded like it was

[1:56:53] an emergency grant. are there

[1:56:55] funds available? Are you working

[1:56:57] with the

[1:57:01] allocations through Senate Bill3

[1:57:03] or other potential funding

[1:57:10] madam chair senator Charlie

[1:57:13] we do have a housing program

[1:57:15] manager and since then I've kind

[1:57:17] of kicked that off because

[1:57:17] housing's not my

[1:57:19] my specialty but I know that

[1:57:23] we did talk to workforce

[1:57:24] Solutions about putting out a

[1:57:27] grant instead of giving it to

[1:57:29] a municipality and letting other

[1:57:32] individuals apply so they can

[1:57:34] assess their own costs and needs

[1:57:36] associated with the warming

[1:57:38] shelters and I know there was an

[1:57:40] RFP but I'm not sure if anybody

[1:57:42] applied for it locally

[1:57:45] thank you madam chairir. I don't

[1:57:46] know if you could do it less

[1:57:47] expensive than175,000 dollars

[1:57:50] quite honestly for that amount

[1:57:52] of time that's about50,000

[1:57:53] dollars a month which is for the

[1:57:55] the amount of individuals that

[1:57:57] you're interacting with. I

[1:57:59] don't know if that's possible

[1:58:01] but

[1:58:01] thank you that that concludes my

[1:58:04] my questions madam chairir I'll

[1:58:06] just say this one last thing I

[1:58:07] read an interesting article

[1:58:08] recently about harm reduction

[1:58:10] policies and how major

[1:58:15] metropolitan areas are rolling

[1:58:16] back their harm reduction

[1:58:17] policies but also to include

[1:58:20] mandatory treatment for the

[1:58:23] reasons that were mentioned and

[1:58:24] when mandatory treatment is

[1:58:26] required of those individuals

[1:58:29] who come into contact with the

[1:58:31] system recidivism

[1:58:32] decreases and so I think it's an

[1:58:34] interesting intersection for

[1:58:37] us to explore while we're making

[1:58:40] decisions about treatment

[1:58:42] facilities into the future.

[1:58:44] thank you madam chairir.

[1:58:46] and I would like to mention that

[1:58:47] these guys actually do the

[1:58:49] workforce development when they

[1:58:51] do the intake right when the

[1:58:52] people are in the program like

[1:58:53] as soon as they can handle it

[1:58:55] and get them going so it's not

[1:58:57] till after they

[1:59:00] ter ing

[1:59:04] p re s ent ative Abeda, thank

[1:59:04] you Senator Charlie.

[1:59:05] thank you thank you presenters

[1:59:07] and senator Charlie you lead me

[1:59:09] right into my questions

[1:59:10] beautifully thank you in regards

[1:59:12] to the mandatory treatment for

[1:59:14] both NCI or excuse me the

[1:59:16] nonmandatory treatment for NCI

[1:59:18] are you keeping any

[1:59:20] information about tribal court

[1:59:22] versus non tribal court?

[1:59:26] madam chair umre representative

[1:59:31] Abeda we just keep the

[1:59:32] commitment where they're

[1:59:32] committed from so only a law

[1:59:35] enforcement officer and a

[1:59:36] medical provider can commit him

[1:59:38] into NCI and we do have that

[1:59:40] data. Great OK. where are you

[1:59:42] seeing more of the commitments

[1:59:44] coming from

[1:59:47] umgpd I think it's 95% are

[1:59:49] coming from Galluplice

[1:59:55] I can get you that exact

[1:59:57] breakdown

[2:00:00] OK thank you madam chair thank

[2:00:00] you presenters. The reason

[2:00:02] why I ask is I agree with

[2:00:04] Senator Charlie in the article

[2:00:05] written that mandatory treatment

[2:00:06] does have an impact and it does

[2:00:08] help. but I wanted to see if

[2:00:11] that was if we were seeing

[2:00:13] mandatory treatment commitments

[2:00:15] from tribal courts as well

[2:00:17] because for my experience that

[2:00:21] NCI is one of the only local

[2:00:23] places that they can

[2:00:30] do not go to NCI then they're

[2:00:33] sent out of state they're sent

[2:00:34] to facilities that are much

[2:00:36] further

[2:00:39] u ll recovery because the

[2:00:42] curriculum's either not

[2:00:42] culturally responsive to them or

[2:00:45] just the distance alone and

[2:00:47] then coming back into the same

[2:00:49] environment that coping

[2:00:50] mechanisms are just not there.

[2:00:52] So I want I would love to see

[2:00:54] those two issues because my I

[2:00:57] am moving towards more

[2:00:59] collaboration with courts and

[2:01:03] also the law school about

[2:01:05] addressing needs for our legal

[2:01:08] desert in

[2:01:08] this is Albuquerque west all the

[2:01:15] the next question I had was

[2:01:17] in the in the curriculum I know

[2:01:20] you said that they go through a

[2:01:22] program that they can finish. Do

[2:01:23] you know if there's a life

[2:01:24] skills component in that

[2:01:26] curriculum and the life skills

[2:01:27] component would be how to find a

[2:01:30] home or building a resume job

[2:01:32] application or having a support

[2:01:35] for

[2:01:35] relapse prevention is that part

[2:01:39] of the curriculum

[2:01:42] madam chairirpresentative Obea

[2:01:45] we do have people come into

[2:01:46] NCI and do groups from

[2:01:49] umorkforce solutions that they

[2:01:51] do provide the job

[2:01:54] application a lot of these

[2:01:54] people are just coming off of

[2:01:56] having abAc of.20 so we have to

[2:02:00] repeat those and and work slowly

[2:02:04] with this population because a

[2:02:06] lot of them have been unhoused

[2:02:08] and unsheltered for a while

[2:02:11] we've had

[2:02:12] in the independent living we've

[2:02:13] had success with working with

[2:02:15] them to get jobs and then

[2:02:17] providing the bikes to get to

[2:02:20] employment it takes some time

[2:02:23] to get him into a routine

[2:02:25] because we do give them chores

[2:02:26] we kind of have like a house

[2:02:28] manager within that shelter and

[2:02:29] they all take turns it's it's

[2:02:32] been really nice to see and

[2:02:34] we're looking at implementing a

[2:02:36] a contingency management program

[2:02:38] where we increase the rewards

[2:02:40] for the positive behavior

[2:02:42] so we don't have that

[2:02:44] necessarily

[2:02:45] curriculum of life skills but we

[2:02:49] have them work with a peer

[2:02:50] support to guide them through a

[2:02:51] lot of this.

[2:02:53] thank you madam chair thank you

[2:02:55] my last question is about

[2:02:57] family support I've been on

[2:02:59] the side of family where you are

[2:03:02] helpless, hopeless about how you

[2:03:05] can support your loved one. a

[2:03:07] lot of times we've heard it on

[2:03:08] this committee that when you

[2:03:09] come into gallup you see our

[2:03:12] relatives on the streets you see

[2:03:13] them in certain areas you can't

[2:03:15] help but wonder where is their

[2:03:16] family

[2:03:19] but is there a service or is

[2:03:20] there a resource is there a

[2:03:22] hotline? what do we have for

[2:03:23] families and I ask this too

[2:03:25] because so often even in my

[2:03:27] home community when I ask

[2:03:29] students or kids from the

[2:03:31] neighborhood, you know where's

[2:03:32] your mom? how's your mom? how's

[2:03:33] your dad? how's your uncle

[2:03:35] they haven't been home they're

[2:03:36] on the streets and so the

[2:03:38] kids worry just as much for

[2:03:40] their relatives that are out

[2:03:41] there grandma's grandpa's

[2:03:43] worry about their children their

[2:03:45] nephews their nieces their

[2:03:46] grandchildren who are out there.

[2:03:48] do we have a resource set up to

[2:03:49] help families who are going

[2:03:51] through this and if if not what

[2:03:53] are your thoughts on that?

[2:03:55] madam chairirpresentative Abeda,

[2:03:58] that is a huge need in our

[2:03:59] community we do offer them the

[2:04:02] right to call and connect with

[2:04:04] their family member if that's

[2:04:05] what they choose and we are

[2:04:07] willing to do counseling

[2:04:08] sessions with the family we just

[2:04:10] haven't had any one take us up

[2:04:13] on that and probably a couple of

[2:04:14] years

[2:04:15] but it is well needed

[2:04:21] OK thank you that's madam chair

[2:04:22] and Councilor Bata one of the

[2:04:22] problems we do have to in gallup

[2:04:24] we have mothers grandmothers

[2:04:25] coming

[2:04:25] to visiting me as the mayor and

[2:04:27] say my 12 year old

[2:04:28] is on cannabis

[2:04:31] and we can't we don't know what

[2:04:33] to do and that's one of the

[2:04:34] problems we need to start

[2:04:35] looking into is those gateway

[2:04:36] drugs I don't know if they call

[2:04:38] it a gateway drug but when these

[2:04:39] young kids10,111el years old are

[2:04:41] doing our vaping cannabis you

[2:04:42] can't tell it you it's it's not

[2:04:44] visible and we're gonna have to

[2:04:46] start addressing that really

[2:04:47] soon because I think that's

[2:04:49] the gateway that's starting the

[2:04:50] problems

[2:04:55] OK

[2:04:57] we know that and we thank you

[2:04:59] very much

[2:05:01] the place I visited was the yeah

[2:05:04] this condehohoienter in Phoenix,

[2:05:06] Arizona

[2:05:07] and everything you're talking

[2:05:08] about all these

[2:05:11] I mean you needing somebody to

[2:05:12] do this you're talking about the

[2:05:13] curriculum the intake they

[2:05:16] handle all of it closed loop

[2:05:17] system with resources and so

[2:05:19] they have a better idea of what

[2:05:21] we're spending on on it in

[2:05:24] that whole loop so I'm very very

[2:05:26] excited to to introduce them to

[2:05:29] you and get them going here in

[2:05:31] New Mexico just to build the

[2:05:33] foundation that is very it

[2:05:36] just really blew my mind how

[2:05:38] much they really listened to the

[2:05:40] community of the

[2:05:41] people that were coming in and

[2:05:42] the barriers that were there I

[2:05:44] understand we still have a

[2:05:45] barrier with transportation of

[2:05:47] getting them there to the

[2:05:49] treatment center especially when

[2:05:50] you talk about tribal court

[2:05:52] so we're talking about hubs

[2:05:53] within the Navajo nation where

[2:05:56] we're because we see this with

[2:05:58] the MMIP is that they say I'm

[2:06:00] gonna go get treatment they

[2:06:01] leave here

[2:06:02] then they don't make it there

[2:06:04] so like we need you to take

[2:06:05] place for them to go see well

[2:06:07] and want treatment get them to a

[2:06:08] safe place here maybe the

[2:06:09] chapter and then actually have

[2:06:11] that transportation safely down

[2:06:13] there so we do know where where

[2:06:15] that they did get there and

[2:06:16] handling the intake really

[2:06:18] knowing caseworkers are there

[2:06:19] all under one roof. it is just

[2:06:22] very

[2:06:22] they're doing well and hoping

[2:06:25] we're really getting ready to do

[2:06:27] something here in Albuquerque

[2:06:28] very quickly as they have talked

[2:06:29] to Albuquerque already so very

[2:06:31] been excited to have bring them

[2:06:34] to see talk to you ma'am where

[2:06:35] is it located in phoenix? It is

[2:06:38] I don't know. I went to probably

[2:06:41] 6 different facilities within a

[2:06:43] day and a half so there's more

[2:06:45] than one they had the veterans

[2:06:47] outreach and then they had

[2:06:50] housing they had 200 units for

[2:06:51] veterans down there in which

[2:06:53] they I was just really blown

[2:06:55] away about how many units they

[2:06:56] have and even getting them

[2:06:58] through the 9ty day that they

[2:07:00] actually don't tell the person

[2:07:02] well we only can fund you for 60

[2:07:04] days or you're only here for30.

[2:07:05] They actually tried to make sure

[2:07:07] they're all the way for the

[2:07:08] night0 whatever's

[2:07:10] cut by medicaid or whatever

[2:07:12] nation takes care of the rest so

[2:07:14] I'm just really even the

[2:07:17] court ordered they have that

[2:07:19] whole judicial part too where

[2:07:20] they probation and

[2:07:24] reinvented or redid these

[2:07:27] buildings old hospitals senior

[2:07:30] centers and repurposed them and

[2:07:32] it really meant the needs of the

[2:07:33] area and even with our Navajo

[2:07:36] facility that'snavajo

[2:07:39] Nationowned has anavajo nation

[2:07:39] flag outside down there is

[2:07:41] pretty new and even with the

[2:07:44] hydration

[2:07:47] and all right there in that area

[2:07:52] and they provide transportation

[2:07:54] to the doctors and all that for

[2:07:56] the people that are in there so

[2:08:00] keep my fingers crossed that we

[2:08:01] get it going here you know yes

[2:08:05] madam chair'd like to go back to

[2:08:06] uhpresentative Betas

[2:08:09] on on the mandatory seeing very

[2:08:11] few of our judges

[2:08:12] require mandatory treatment

[2:08:14] unless they're dealing

[2:08:18] unless they're dealers

[2:08:20] if they're addicted and they're

[2:08:22] dealing drugs and they're being

[2:08:23] sentenced to prison or something

[2:08:25] like that then they're getting

[2:08:26] some rehab within that but just

[2:08:29] our common users in an

[2:08:33] example we we had a a person

[2:08:34] down on Cole Street

[2:08:34] heavily induced with drugs throw

[2:08:37] a rock through a local business

[2:08:38] window was caught, goes through

[2:08:41] the court and and a week later

[2:08:44] I'm I'm getting a call from here

[2:08:45] because he's in the back parking

[2:08:47] lot

[2:08:47] out of his mind

[2:08:52] nonresponsive they're

[2:08:53] they're they're already back on

[2:08:54] the street so so I don't see our

[2:08:55] courts here for people who are

[2:08:58] heavily are are former DA was

[2:09:02] they're not competent to stand

[2:09:03] trial

[2:09:06] so they're not even gonna press

[2:09:08] charges and get to the judge

[2:09:10] so so that is what we're seeing

[2:09:13] the noncompetency and if

[2:09:14] you're not competent you don't

[2:09:15] go to court you don't go to

[2:09:16] court you don't get committed

[2:09:18] we can refer and and try to

[2:09:21] get them to these these programs

[2:09:23] but then again if we're

[2:09:24] referring and we actually get

[2:09:26] them in the door have enough

[2:09:27] trust and get them in the door

[2:09:29] they're not staying

[2:09:31] they they might get through that

[2:09:32] initial detox

[2:09:33] and then I'm leaving there

[2:09:36] there's and there's nothing to

[2:09:37] stop them legally and and that's

[2:09:39] what we're running into. if

[2:09:40] I'm not mistaken arizona

[2:09:41] has a mandatory commitment

[2:09:44] I know the governor tried doing

[2:09:46] that in a special session a

[2:09:48] couple years ago I believe. She

[2:09:49] tried doing that here in New

[2:09:51] Mexico and Gallllup would be

[2:09:53] very favorable of that because

[2:09:55] our law enforcement know the

[2:09:57] repeat offenders

[2:09:59] they're at the point now they're

[2:10:00] throwing their hands up of why

[2:10:02] am I even picking him up

[2:10:04] they're frustrated you know we

[2:10:06] we we see it they're going to

[2:10:08] be right back on the street. Our

[2:10:10] businesses are our citizens are

[2:10:12] getting frustrated and that goes

[2:10:14] back to Representative Garcia's

[2:10:15] now the stereotype of we're

[2:10:18] throwing our hands up and we now

[2:10:20] we're reacting against the

[2:10:21] person

[2:10:22] versus against the disability.

[2:10:25] so if we can do some mandatory

[2:10:27] type thing where we can get them

[2:10:28] in the door

[2:10:29] and we can start getting them

[2:10:32] clean and and responsive and

[2:10:34] competent to accept

[2:10:36] the workforce the the the

[2:10:38] counseling the

[2:10:39] repairs with their family the

[2:10:42] housing all that whole circle

[2:10:46] that's needed not one component

[2:10:48] is going to cure anybody it's

[2:10:50] got to be a full component and

[2:10:52] and I'm speaking from not

[2:10:54] experience but but from my son I

[2:10:57] I I will say my my son went

[2:10:58] through a heavy addiction and

[2:10:59] and it took prison for him to

[2:11:02] get clean and that was a

[2:11:03] mandatory commitment because it

[2:11:05] was prison. It it wasn't I

[2:11:07] want to be there

[2:11:08] and and I'm happy to say two

[2:11:11] years

[2:11:11] that he's very involved with the

[2:11:15] community now and clean.

[2:11:17] and and a product productive

[2:11:18] citizen that's what we're

[2:11:20] looking for

[2:11:20] but but it has to be a mandatory

[2:11:23] and and I would rather see it

[2:11:24] mandatory to a treatment than

[2:11:26] mandatory to a prison.

[2:11:27] to be honest

[2:11:29] because because I will be honest

[2:11:31] with you there too.

[2:11:32] Dad it was easier for me to get

[2:11:34] drugs in prison than it was on

[2:11:36] the streets

[2:11:37] I will be blunt with that

[2:11:39] I think that's the other thing

[2:11:40] too with arizona is they have

[2:11:48] there were some questions about

[2:11:49] the economic development of the

[2:11:51] area of the industrial park

[2:11:52] because before I got here it is

[2:11:55] a whole conundrum with data

[2:11:58] centers

[2:12:01] but you get it very briefly

[2:12:03] madam chair we'd be happy to

[2:12:07] we we did have a brief

[2:12:08] interest from a data center

[2:12:10] coming in. there there was

[2:12:15] some discussions at this

[2:12:16] point they're not on the table.

[2:12:17] We we do have a manufacturing

[2:12:19] facility wanting to come in that

[2:12:21] is going to manufacture solar

[2:12:23] panels

[2:12:25] unfortunately he he talked in

[2:12:27] his in his

[2:12:27] portfolio he called it a data

[2:12:31] center, but I would like to call

[2:12:33] it an operating center it it

[2:12:35] it's it's it's the technological

[2:12:36] portion to control his machines

[2:12:38] we're not talking oracle Project

[2:12:41] Jupiter we're not talking big

[2:12:43] data center where we're housing

[2:12:44] and farming out stuff Ai we're

[2:12:47] we're talking

[2:12:47] to compete with the Chinese

[2:12:50] we're we're going to have to

[2:12:51] have some machines doing some of

[2:12:54] this intensive work. Well this

[2:12:56] is an operation center to run

[2:12:58] that so it's a data center to

[2:13:00] run his machines so we we have a

[2:13:03] big interest in a production

[2:13:05] facility of solar panels they

[2:13:08] want to go into making the glass

[2:13:10] making all they're heavily

[2:13:12] involved in a right now on

[2:13:14] providing solar and

[2:13:16] hydroelectric

[2:13:18] to a company there to a

[2:13:20] country not a company a country

[2:13:21] there and they want to produce

[2:13:22] them here they are going to need

[2:13:24] a lot of land to put solar

[2:13:26] panels up because we cannot

[2:13:27] supply them the electricity

[2:13:30] we just don't have enough we

[2:13:31] can't even buy enough into

[2:13:32] gallup to provide so they're

[2:13:34] gonna have to use a lot of the

[2:13:35] land for solar. there is a

[2:13:36] stereotype on water we have

[2:13:39] no agreements right now with

[2:13:40] them for water. there isn't

[2:13:41] interest to buy our treated

[2:13:43] affluent water

[2:13:44] which we have an abundance of

[2:13:46] because right now we put it in

[2:13:48] the Perco and it goes down

[2:13:50] river. it it's going into

[2:13:52] arizona so we would rather use

[2:13:54] that to a true purpose of of

[2:13:56] treating it and the logistics is

[2:14:00] there. they're going into an old

[2:14:01] car strip mine that used

[2:14:04] affluent water for dust control

[2:14:06] so that the the mechanisms

[2:14:08] they'll have to replace the

[2:14:09] pumps because they're old. The

[2:14:11] pumps the lines are there to get

[2:14:12] them the affluent water from our

[2:14:14] plant we

[2:14:14] have well over a million gallons

[2:14:16] a day that we can supply them

[2:14:18] sell them

[2:14:19] and and it was pledged to other

[2:14:22] companies in the past

[2:14:24] we felt we don't want to pledge

[2:14:26] it that way we would prefer him

[2:14:27] to go through the state leadA

[2:14:28] process

[2:14:29] through the local leader process

[2:14:31] to where if we're giving them a

[2:14:32] discount on that water it's

[2:14:33] through a process not a

[2:14:35] handshake deal of this is what

[2:14:37] you promised us but more of an

[2:14:38] economic deal

[2:14:39] this is to bring you in so we're

[2:14:41] if we're talking any type of

[2:14:42] freshwater

[2:14:45] it is for the restrooms for

[2:14:47] housing for kitchenettes

[2:14:49] just like we would supply to

[2:14:51] Walmart or any other business

[2:14:52] coming in water to operate for

[2:14:56] the public, not for the

[2:14:57] manufacturing. The only water we

[2:14:59] will pledge and haven't yet is a

[2:15:02] fluent water

[2:15:02] for their manufacturing

[2:15:05] thank you thank you for that

[2:15:06] clarification because they think

[2:15:07] there's a lot of companies in

[2:15:08] that misconception too when they

[2:15:10] say data center because that

[2:15:12] reliance on someone else

[2:15:14] housing your storage and all

[2:15:16] that seems to be

[2:15:18] it seems to be lower cost

[2:15:20] especially if even with energy I

[2:15:22] know some people on the

[2:15:24] hazardous materials so we talked

[2:15:26] about thes andRs the small

[2:15:27] nuclear reactors and uranium and

[2:15:30] energy

[2:15:31] because as far as I know I

[2:15:32] haven't had anybody kind of do

[2:15:34] any restrictions on water yet or

[2:15:37] do any restrictions on energy

[2:15:39] and how much we but we're

[2:15:41] consuming we're consuming a

[2:15:43] great amounts and it is it's

[2:15:46] there it's reality and some

[2:15:48] people are really fighting

[2:15:49] against thinking we're just

[2:15:50] gonna cut everything off by its

[2:15:51] like there has to be some

[2:15:53] compromise there because in

[2:15:54] order to have economic

[2:15:56] development there are some

[2:15:58] things that are necessary for

[2:16:01] some of these companies

[2:16:02] especially when you talk about

[2:16:03] trust and reliability and not

[2:16:05] even waiting for somebody else

[2:16:06] to do that for you relying on

[2:16:08] some other entity to come in if

[2:16:10] you can provide it all there. it

[2:16:12] is more I think advantageous for

[2:16:14] a company to come in but thank

[2:16:16] you for that clarification madam

[2:16:17] Jerem let you know we've been

[2:16:18] upfront and honest with this

[2:16:19] company. This is the only power

[2:16:21] we can provide you.

[2:16:23] this is all we can provide there

[2:16:24] all the rest must come from

[2:16:26] behind the meter and and that's

[2:16:27] why they're looking at

[2:16:28] purchasing more land for their

[2:16:30] solar to produce and such and

[2:16:32] and we've been very upfront with

[2:16:33] them on water

[2:16:35] you know they they were talking4

[2:16:36] or ive phases and we can

[2:16:38] probably get them enough

[2:16:38] affluent water for two phases so

[2:16:40] that's all they're looking at at

[2:16:41] this point until they can find

[2:16:43] other sources of water but we

[2:16:45] are not pledging our Navajo

[2:16:47] Gallup water supply project when

[2:16:48] it comes in our our public

[2:16:51] entity

[2:16:52] come first

[2:16:55] right now and then we've also

[2:16:57] told them we have to withholdX

[2:16:59] amount of affluent water because

[2:17:01] we do use it to water our golf

[2:17:02] course and you know we've taken

[2:17:05] almost all of our parks

[2:17:06] off of the watering system now.

[2:17:08] thank you state government

[2:17:10] you've given us the the

[2:17:11] resources to turf almost all of

[2:17:14] our parks were down to 2 parks

[2:17:16] now that we're looking at the

[2:17:17] future of getting rid of the

[2:17:18] grass and going to turf and

[2:17:20] we'll be100% artificial turf

[2:17:23] with no watering in our parks so

[2:17:25] we're we're working on that so

[2:17:27] we've been upfront and honest

[2:17:28] with this company and the public

[2:17:30] that this is all we can supply

[2:17:32] you and nothing you go above and

[2:17:34] beyond while that's on you you

[2:17:35] you you cannot

[2:17:37] expand beyond what we can give

[2:17:38] you

[2:17:39] thank you it ain't hope with our

[2:17:41] next administration of Navajo

[2:17:42] Nation we continue to collab

[2:17:46] border towns but thank you thank

[2:17:48] you mayor

[2:17:51] thank you very muchppreciate it.

[2:17:53] thanks for coming to Gallup.

[2:17:55] and thank you for the work you

[2:17:56] do. I do have Manylito chapter

[2:17:57] president andaci chapter

[2:18:00] president in our in our midst

[2:18:03] but because we have this

[2:18:05] presentation and then we're

[2:18:06] gonna have public comment

[2:18:08] we're going to have to actually

[2:18:09] and manualito come in after our

[2:18:12] presentation number3, the future

[2:18:14] of community economic

[2:18:15] sovereignty we'll talk to you

[2:18:16] soon need to make an appointment

[2:18:17] with you guys

[2:18:19] yeah yes

[2:18:22] So Liz Gambola henry Jake Forman

[2:18:26] and Aquila Martinez would you

[2:18:27] join us up here

[2:18:30] and if there we eat person as

[2:18:32] committee member oh yeah there's

[2:18:34] a pub yeah where we have a

[2:18:35] public comment sign in sheet at

[2:18:37] the the front there so just be

[2:18:39] aware if you signed up I'm gonna

[2:18:41] call you out to make public

[2:18:43] comment

[2:18:44] but before we go into public

[2:18:45] comment we'll have a short

[2:18:47] presentation with our two

[2:18:48] chapter presidents that are here

[2:18:51] committee members we're gonna

[2:18:52] take a very short five minute

[2:18:54] break members go get pickup

[2:18:57] lunch there and we're gonna

[2:18:58] start to have a working lunch

[2:19:00] sort of thing

[2:19:02] yeah the food's the food's there

[2:19:05] and thank you to Representative

[2:19:07] Lundstrom for lunch re of

[2:19:09] Johnton and Twin Lakes chapter

[2:19:11] for the continental breakfast

[2:19:13] fruits and donutts and thank you

[2:19:15] to the chamber for donuts short

[2:19:17] little break5 minutes.

[2:26:59] OK, those that are in line to

[2:27:01] get your lunch please quiet

[2:27:04] down

[2:27:08] take your conversations down

[2:27:10] the tone with your voice so our

[2:27:12] presenters can get going and you

[2:27:14] have not been before us before

[2:27:18] ok so the green light to go we

[2:27:19] try to only have one microphone

[2:27:20] on at a time. make sure you

[2:27:22] bring it close to you because we

[2:27:24] are webcasting so our members

[2:27:25] can those that are joining us

[2:27:28] will be able to hear you thank

[2:27:30] you thank you so much

[2:27:34] all right awesome well thank you

[2:27:36] so much thank you so much for

[2:27:37] addressing us today committee

[2:27:39] madam chair senator thank you so

[2:27:41] much yes so we'll go ahead and

[2:27:43] speak up we are New Mexico

[2:27:45] community capital my name is

[2:27:46] Henry Jake Forman I'm

[2:27:48] absenteehawnee from Oklahoma as

[2:27:50] well as Filipino and ScotsIrish

[2:27:51] born and raised here in New

[2:27:53] Mexico and Albuquerque, New

[2:27:54] Mexico so grateful we got to

[2:27:57] go to school with some of our

[2:27:58] representatives and chairpeople

[2:28:00] here as well. I'm gonna go ahead

[2:28:02] and introduce our executive

[2:28:03] director Liz

[2:28:04] Gamboa who will start our

[2:28:05] presentation.

[2:28:09] good afternoon I'm so happy you

[2:28:11] all have your lunch wonderful

[2:28:14] so yes my name isliz Gamboa. I

[2:28:18] am Mexican and apache descent

[2:28:22] I have I am the executive

[2:28:25] director at NMCc I have been

[2:28:27] there for 8 years come October

[2:28:30] 1st.

[2:28:32] time has flown and I came

[2:28:36] here from the bay areaa to join

[2:28:39] the organization and I came here

[2:28:42] for this job it really was an

[2:28:44] answer to what we've always

[2:28:46] wanted to do to bring my finance

[2:28:48] background into economic

[2:28:51] development and community

[2:28:53] development so

[2:28:54] yeah I'd love to introduce you

[2:28:58] to our organization NMCC is

[2:29:02] what I will call it it's a long

[2:29:04] name and we've thought about

[2:29:06] changing the name but since we

[2:29:08] serve community we're keeping it

[2:29:10] for now we are all of our

[2:29:14] strategic direction is around

[2:29:17] communities so our official

[2:29:18] mission is to bridge access to

[2:29:21] knowledge space technology

[2:29:24] people and capital to

[2:29:26] create stronger communities

[2:29:28] resilient local economies and

[2:29:31] pathways to prosperity we

[2:29:34] activate life changing

[2:29:36] opportunities with indigenous

[2:29:39] people and other economically

[2:29:41] distressed communities to build

[2:29:43] community economic sovereignty

[2:29:47] we've been around since 204, our

[2:29:51] first investor was a local

[2:29:53] pueblo we started as a non

[2:29:57] p ro fi t but we also had a Vc

[2:30:00] arm which is a fund we actually

[2:30:02] ran two funds that were around

[2:30:06] up until a year and a half ago

[2:30:10] when we closed the fund so both

[2:30:12] were successful and the idea

[2:30:15] was that

[2:30:18] it we wanted to find investment

[2:30:22] ready businesses led by

[2:30:24] indigenous people we couldn't

[2:30:27] find them so we had to just

[2:30:29] recalibrate a little bit and

[2:30:32] really go to that group and

[2:30:34] teach them how to do that and

[2:30:36] get investment ready.

[2:30:41] that is kind of where I come

[2:30:43] into the picture. I was one of

[2:30:44] those native entrepreneurs in

[2:30:46] residence at the time I was a

[2:30:48] high school teacher at the

[2:30:49] Native American Community

[2:30:50] academy and I was on my own path

[2:30:52] to recovery right my dad died of

[2:30:54] cirrhosis of the liver so

[2:30:56] that's just something you know

[2:30:57] this conversation that we had

[2:30:58] previously really hit home you

[2:31:01] know for me and what gave me

[2:31:01] hope is entrepreneurship. you

[2:31:03] know what gave me hope is being

[2:31:04] in school and getting my degree

[2:31:07] and that's when I got connected

[2:31:08] to New Mexicounity capital we

[2:31:10] see that there's

[2:31:11] a lot of societal challenges but

[2:31:13] we feel like we're a community

[2:31:14] solution, right we know that

[2:31:16] over 6% of New Mexico businesses

[2:31:18] are native owned and we also

[2:31:20] know that indigenous founders

[2:31:21] receive less than0.5% of venture

[2:31:24] capital and philanthropic

[2:31:25] funding. so that's what our

[2:31:28] that's why we're here that's why

[2:31:28] we wanted to talk with you all

[2:31:29] to just really start building

[2:31:31] relations and kinship

[2:31:32] connected so like Liz mentioned

[2:31:35] we really activate life changing

[2:31:37] opportunities and we wanted to

[2:31:38] show you all some cases and

[2:31:39] examples of how we've done that

[2:31:41] in the past and I'm following

[2:31:43] you all have a presentation of

[2:31:45] our slide deck. So I'm going to

[2:31:47] the deck that is entitled core

[2:31:50] annualgras one of the

[2:31:51] culturally grounded business

[2:31:53] education workshops that we do

[2:31:55] is our business and marketing

[2:31:56] essentials so imagine right you

[2:31:58] all were talking about intake

[2:32:00] and people needing support

[2:32:01] what we do right away is we

[2:32:03] offer a holistic support to

[2:32:04] native entrepreneurs we take

[2:32:06] in again what their needs are

[2:32:08] what their challenges and right

[2:32:10] away we give

[2:32:11] them access to one on one

[2:32:12] coaching and support. We give

[2:32:14] them a digital wallet for their

[2:32:16] online subscriptions to get aite

[2:32:18] we also offer laptops we know

[2:32:20] that resources and access to

[2:32:23] technologies is a real barrier

[2:32:24] so we've been over we've been

[2:32:24] able to literally give out

[2:32:26] thousands of laptops across

[2:32:28] Mexico and then provide access

[2:32:30] to actual cash resources so back

[2:32:33] starting in 2017 when we started

[2:32:35] our business marketing

[2:32:36] essentials we offer everyone1200

[2:32:38] dollars to be able to help

[2:32:40] them with their marketing

[2:32:41] during our business and

[2:32:42] marketing essentials class

[2:32:44] and before in our native

[2:32:46] entrepreneur and residence

[2:32:47] program we offered all of our

[2:32:50] entrepreneurs15,000 dollars plus

[2:32:51] six months of mentorship. That

[2:32:53] was life changing for me. that's

[2:32:55] what we talked about when we we

[2:32:55] offer life changing

[2:32:56] opportunities because that's how

[2:32:58] I was able to become an

[2:32:59] entrepreneur shift from my

[2:33:01] full time job as a as a teacher

[2:33:03] to also being an entrepreneur

[2:33:05] and own a storefront in downtown

[2:33:07] Albuquerque. So these are the

[2:33:09] types of things that we do

[2:33:10] like wement

[2:33:11] we access to community capital

[2:33:13] so that's micro grants tech tool

[2:33:15] kits nonpredatory loans,

[2:33:18] networks of peers and allies and

[2:33:20] I think that's how we've also

[2:33:21] been able to strengthen our

[2:33:22] indigenous workforce and

[2:33:24] business owners and then we also

[2:33:27] offer fiscal sponsorship so you

[2:33:29] all mentioned right there's

[2:33:30] always a lack of fiscal sponsors

[2:33:32] within our community who's able

[2:33:33] to take in these funds these

[2:33:35] capital stacks and be able to

[2:33:36] manage programs and that's

[2:33:38] really what we focused on we

[2:33:40] have 22 different

[2:33:41] emerging projects around the

[2:33:42] state that we act as a fiscal

[2:33:44] sponsor and what has really

[2:33:46] helped us is that we have our

[2:33:47] back end we have a solid

[2:33:49] foundation as a venture capital

[2:33:50] fund operating for over 20 years

[2:33:52] we have two accountants and we

[2:33:54] really focus on technology to

[2:33:56] help with program management.

[2:33:58] So on our next slide, Liz is

[2:34:00] going to talk about you know why

[2:34:02] we're here and why should we

[2:34:03] invest in more native

[2:34:04] entrepreneurs in New Mexico

[2:34:05] community capital.

[2:34:17] So New Mexico is a hot spot as

[2:34:20] I'm sure you are all feeling

[2:34:23] with perhaps different

[2:34:25] leadership coming in

[2:34:28] different way and right it is

[2:34:32] the second state number 2 for

[2:34:35] native owned businesses in 2025

[2:34:39] so our work over the last decade

[2:34:42] has helped New Mexico stand out

[2:34:45] as one of the strongest

[2:34:45] environment

[2:34:47] s in the country for native

[2:34:49] entrepreneurs and we're the only

[2:34:52] native led nonprofit that

[2:34:54] provides services to business

[2:34:56] owners statewide and all tribal

[2:34:57] affiliation.

[2:34:59] affiliations sorry

[2:35:03] so

[2:35:04] we've done a lot in the past10

[2:35:07] years so officially in 2014 we

[2:35:12] received a grant from the

[2:35:14] administration for Native

[2:35:16] Americans which kicked off ourE

[2:35:19] program native entrepreneur and

[2:35:24] residents program a very first

[2:35:24] company to go through the

[2:35:26] program was bo and arrow brewery

[2:35:29] sohya Shepherd worked at NMCc

[2:35:32] she was a financial analyst

[2:35:35] so she took it to the next step.

[2:35:37] she was ready to take the leap

[2:35:39] and she helped formulate and

[2:35:43] build the curriculum for the

[2:35:45] NMCc program so

[2:35:47] she was the first of46

[2:35:49] entrepreneurs to go through the

[2:35:52] six month program but what we

[2:35:54] found was we needed more basics

[2:35:57] and essentials so Jake created

[2:36:00] another program calledinancial

[2:36:04] Business basicsics we then moved

[2:36:05] to digital marketing and

[2:36:09] media basics and now where we've

[2:36:12] landed is business and marketing

[2:36:14] essentials so all of those

[2:36:15] program

[2:36:18] s we've put 864 people through

[2:36:21] various programs every single

[2:36:24] one has received a stipend so

[2:36:27] anywhere from1200 dollars

[2:36:31] to15,000 for the six month

[2:36:32] program that is included in

[2:36:35] every grant that we provide to

[2:36:38] funders

[2:36:39] it is an essential piece of the

[2:36:42] work that we do people not only

[2:36:45] need it for the business they

[2:36:46] need it for child care they need

[2:36:48] it for food we think what are

[2:36:51] the hurdles that are keeping

[2:36:52] entrepreneurs from doing their

[2:36:54] work so that amounts to10,000

[2:36:59] over10,000 hours in training so

[2:37:01] I'm oh you're looking at the new

[2:37:04] pack 228,000 in tech toolkits

[2:37:09] the value of that mentorship is

[2:37:11] almost a million dollars that

[2:37:14] we've provided and we have

[2:37:19] received14.5 million in grants

[2:37:22] we have only received one state

[2:37:24] grant from IAD we did a program

[2:37:28] just this earlier this year

[2:37:31] we did two business and

[2:37:33] marketing essentials classes

[2:37:37] awesome thank you Liz for

[2:37:39] sharing some of that impact and

[2:37:40] that's all driven by the

[2:37:41] entrepreneurs themselves,

[2:37:43] including the mentorship we

[2:37:44] really value finding native

[2:37:46] mentors as well so in some cases

[2:37:48] that's here both in New Mexico

[2:37:50] as well as nationally and

[2:37:52] internationally

[2:37:53] so on our next slide we're

[2:37:55] talking about access to

[2:37:56] knowledge so just want to give

[2:37:57] you a quote you know from a

[2:37:59] participant the training I

[2:38:01] received gave me the confidence

[2:38:02] and tools to grow my business

[2:38:03] and support my community and I

[2:38:06] would say that's almost one of

[2:38:07] the most valuable parts of our

[2:38:09] programming is to connect and

[2:38:10] network with the peers of native

[2:38:12] entrepreneurs right we have a

[2:38:14] space in downtown Albuquerque.

[2:38:16] We recently spent1.4 million

[2:38:18] dollars of renovating the space

[2:38:20] to have the best in class

[2:38:22] audiovisual to be able to do

[2:38:23] hybrid events to host community

[2:38:25] events and we have one of our

[2:38:28] participants here today

[2:38:30] Aquilamartinez and this is

[2:38:31] really around access to

[2:38:32] technology we doubled down on

[2:38:35] technology especially before the

[2:38:37] pandemic so we already knew that

[2:38:39] the rural nature of of our

[2:38:41] community meant that we couldn't

[2:38:42] be everywhere so we had to

[2:38:43] really focus on doing virtual

[2:38:45] programming making sure to give

[2:38:46] people computers teaching them

[2:38:48] how to do a a virtual

[2:38:50] programming right to to log in.

[2:38:53] So during the

[2:38:53] pandemic we actually were able

[2:38:55] to scale we never stopped

[2:38:56] working because our work was

[2:38:57] already based in that virtual

[2:38:59] programming. Akila was one of

[2:39:01] our participants and I feel like

[2:39:03] Liz you know if you could

[2:39:04] introduce her so that she could

[2:39:05] share her new slides that she

[2:39:07] also shared with you all

[2:39:11] Absolutely so Akila is one of

[2:39:12] those success stories that we'd

[2:39:15] like to point out I very much

[2:39:19] believe in system models and I

[2:39:22] think the other interpretation

[2:39:24] of a system which is a very

[2:39:26] western term is relationship

[2:39:29] based models so here akeyla

[2:39:32] comes in she attends a class we

[2:39:35] see that she is very skilled so

[2:39:38] she comes in

[2:39:39] she becomes a guest speaker we

[2:39:42] decide to hire Akila to

[2:39:45] create some little vignettes of

[2:39:48] instruction around social

[2:39:50] media which is really needed

[2:39:53] so that goes on ikok and I think

[2:39:57] that maybe our highest rated

[2:40:00] ikok so if you go to our site

[2:40:02] and go back you'll see and it is

[2:40:05] all around language preservation

[2:40:07] so she has made it identifiable

[2:40:11] by younger people by older

[2:40:13] people just by the subject she

[2:40:16] uses she kicked off and led

[2:40:20] and she's going to talk a little

[2:40:21] about this but I think it's

[2:40:23] important

[2:40:23] to really just elevate what

[2:40:26] she's done in community and the

[2:40:29] most humble way we put on a

[2:40:32] turtle island women in tech

[2:40:35] conference so we brought women

[2:40:37] from New Zealand from Canada

[2:40:40] and my goodness and about six

[2:40:44] weeks 8 weeks akila raised

[2:40:47] enough money to put this

[2:40:49] conference on and brought these

[2:40:50] people here it was amazing. so

[2:40:53] this is something that just took

[2:40:55] place a year and a half ago it

[2:40:57] was the first of its kind and

[2:40:59] we're really pro proud that

[2:41:01] she's a part of our extended

[2:41:03] family at NMCc so I'm gonna pass

[2:41:07] it toilla and she can just talk

[2:41:09] about her work.

[2:41:10] thank you Liz that means so

[2:41:13] much. So just for some context

[2:41:15] we'll start on this slide here

[2:41:18] don't know if you guys could

[2:41:19] see that so a quick agenda of

[2:41:21] what I'll be talking about today

[2:41:23] is a glittering ro girl intro to

[2:41:26] my business and then how NMCc

[2:41:29] helped the latest momentum and

[2:41:31] why support matters in this work

[2:41:33] so starting with the first slide

[2:41:37] yay my name is Aquilo Martinez

[2:41:41] Bajaleque winni ini dnasha I

[2:41:41] come from the redsprings

[2:41:42] community of the Navajo Nation

[2:41:44] which is just about1f minutes

[2:41:46] south of Gallup, New Mexico so I

[2:41:48] went to school here elementary

[2:41:50] school, middle school and high

[2:41:52] school. and so yeah, I really

[2:41:55] much know what it is to be like

[2:41:58] growing up on a border by border

[2:42:00] town.

[2:42:03] I

[2:42:03] got my lifelong goal at the age

[2:42:05] of three to create

[2:42:07] community-based media after

[2:42:08] constantly witnessing my

[2:42:10] grandparents have to watch TV

[2:42:11] programming that was only

[2:42:12] offered in English so that's why

[2:42:14] I felt like it was important to

[2:42:16] create media that revitalizes

[2:42:18] language and culture

[2:42:19] into my adolescence after I

[2:42:22] graduated college I really saw

[2:42:24] that there was a lack of

[2:42:26] career opportunity around the

[2:42:28] area for language and culture

[2:42:30] preservation so which that led

[2:42:32] me down the path of

[2:42:33] entrepreneurship.

[2:42:33] Today glittering wallir is an

[2:42:36] indigenous women owned

[2:42:39] multimedia house and I focus on

[2:42:40] creating indigenousbased

[2:42:43] circular economic ecosystems

[2:42:45] community based media that

[2:42:47] focuses on indigenous language

[2:42:49] and culture of futurism. The

[2:42:51] medium that I predominantly

[2:42:53] focus on which is the next slide

[2:42:56] this one right here is

[2:43:01] augmented reality and so I

[2:43:04] develop augmented reality for

[2:43:05] mobile phones and for also

[2:43:08] augmented reality glasses

[2:43:10] multiple types of AR are

[2:43:13] augmented reality which is the

[2:43:14] slide here is the famous type of

[2:43:19] Aar is for social media filters

[2:43:20] and then also Pokemon Go.

[2:43:22] and some really cool exciting

[2:43:27] client feedback which is this

[2:43:29] slide here. is that

[2:43:32] glittering world girl was able

[2:43:33] to deliver AR experiences at a

[2:43:36] faster capacity and that are

[2:43:38] much better designed than

[2:43:40] companies on the east coast. So

[2:43:41] that really means a lot to me

[2:43:43] because it's taken a lot of

[2:43:45] momentum to teach myself how to

[2:43:47] build AR experiences which is an

[2:43:49] emerging technology and the

[2:43:52] focus of glittering Worldirl is

[2:43:53] to really help New

[2:43:54] Mexico and tribal nations become

[2:43:57] technologically inclined and up

[2:43:59] to date with emerging

[2:44:00] technologies that are changing

[2:44:01] the world.

[2:44:02] Some awards there that you see

[2:44:05] is that I've received

[2:44:06] multiple awards from MIT

[2:44:09] Stanford and recently a VC

[2:44:13] fund

[2:44:14] establishment in San Francisco

[2:44:18] and I've also gotten the New

[2:44:20] Mexico Women and Tech emerging

[2:44:21] award of 2024.

[2:44:23] and then you see there's some

[2:44:25] media coverage that my work has

[2:44:27] gotten and then also how New

[2:44:32] Mexicounity capital has really

[2:44:33] flourished and given me capacity

[2:44:36] to build on my business is in

[2:44:40] 2021 I joined their business

[2:44:43] marketingssentials class and

[2:44:45] they they really provided an

[2:44:47] environment and a space of

[2:44:49] support of entrepreneurship

[2:44:51] teaching me about marketing

[2:44:52] financial

[2:44:53] literacy, business and finance

[2:44:56] structures and that really

[2:45:00] led to me winning AIBE pitch

[2:45:03] competition in 2022 for first

[2:45:06] place for glittering Worldirl.

[2:45:08] since then I have like Liz

[2:45:13] mentioned there was a lot of

[2:45:15] trust there that was built I was

[2:45:19] hired to host some of their

[2:45:22] video marketing workshops and

[2:45:25] then also contracted to produce

[2:45:27] some videos for their

[2:45:28] programming and that really

[2:45:29] meant a lot to me because it

[2:45:31] felt like they believed in my

[2:45:33] my offerings that a business had

[2:45:36] my business had

[2:45:37] I've also and a s recipient of

[2:45:40] their kinship lending loan

[2:45:42] programme, which not only helped

[2:45:44] my business but it also helped

[2:45:45] me establish and create a

[2:45:47] positive credit for myself.

[2:45:49] in 2025 my business received

[2:45:54] a h00,000 dollars grant and I

[2:45:57] was able to use New Mexicounity

[2:46:00] capital as a fiscal sponsor and

[2:46:02] through that process they were a

[2:46:03] true partner in that process

[2:46:06] by offering me administrative

[2:46:08] and financial administrative

[2:46:11] support which let me learn about

[2:46:15] the ins and outs of budget to

[2:46:17] actuals profit and loss

[2:46:18] statements associated with the

[2:46:20] grant and most importantly to

[2:46:22] give me a sense of what it

[2:46:23] really takes to offer

[2:46:26] technologybased programming for

[2:46:26] the community.

[2:46:28] So on there you'll see pictures

[2:46:29] of indigenous augmented reality

[2:46:31] workshops I was able to host

[2:46:33] those at New Mexico Community

[2:46:34] Capital and through their fiscal

[2:46:37] sponsorship I was able to do

[2:46:40] workshops on the Navajo Nation

[2:46:42] and at UCLA.

[2:46:45] so and then the most latest

[2:46:47] momentum is that we hosted the

[2:46:51] turtle Islandomen in Tech event

[2:46:53] just this past august and that

[2:46:56] was an amazing moment in

[2:46:59] itself we brought together

[2:47:00] prominent indigenous women from

[2:47:02] Canada, New Zealand, across the

[2:47:04] states and of course New Mexico

[2:47:06] to really dream and imagine

[2:47:09] what technology can be like on

[2:47:11] our terms for economic sovere

[2:47:14] ign ty self determination,

[2:47:16] language and culturely

[2:47:17] appropriate content in

[2:47:19] technology and

[2:47:21] that in itself was a true

[2:47:26] partnership as well with New

[2:47:27] Mexico Community Capital you

[2:47:28] could say they acted as a fiscal

[2:47:30] sponsor for that

[2:47:31] because all of the skills that I

[2:47:34] have obtained up until this past

[2:47:36] august as an entrepreneur I was

[2:47:39] able to raise over47,000 dollars

[2:47:41] for this event within a matter

[2:47:43] of three months and that came

[2:47:45] from pitching

[2:47:46] glittering wogir New Mexico

[2:47:49] community capital to each of

[2:47:51] these sponsors to earn their

[2:47:52] trust and their dollars to

[2:47:53] sponsor this event

[2:47:54] so

[2:47:55] this is that that kind of space

[2:47:58] that the turtle Islandomen in

[2:48:00] tech event created is so

[2:48:03] valuable because as I've been in

[2:48:05] spaces like I mentioned at MIT

[2:48:07] Stanford Snapchat meta and

[2:48:10] some of the leading global

[2:48:12] conferences I see no indigenous

[2:48:14] representation in these spaces

[2:48:16] and so creating an event like

[2:48:20] the turtle Islandomen intech

[2:48:21] event is something that was is

[2:48:23] very much needed

[2:48:24] and it was an event to be

[2:48:27] attended by indigenous people

[2:48:28] non indigenous people, everyone

[2:48:30] so we can create an ecosystem

[2:48:32] and learn how we can work

[2:48:34] together and in innovative ways

[2:48:37] aside from that on glittering

[2:48:38] Worldirls

[2:48:43] with glittering wo girl I've

[2:48:44] been in talk with Bernna Leo

[2:48:46] County and Gallupup Tourism here

[2:48:47] to learn how to bring augmented

[2:48:50] reality programming to schools

[2:48:51] and then also to for the

[2:48:54] gallup tourism efforts as well

[2:48:56] to kind of bring an emerging

[2:48:58] te technology to an

[2:49:00] experience that the tourists get

[2:49:02] to experience when they

[2:49:04] visitallllup. but yeah so I

[2:49:06] just I really want to thank New

[2:49:09] Mexicounity Capi I think that

[2:49:10] what it takes really is

[2:49:12] resources I think through my

[2:49:15] work I realized that it does

[2:49:16] take a a a lot of dollars to be

[2:49:20] able to to create impact to be

[2:49:22] able to offer back to the

[2:49:25] community so through my

[2:49:26] workshops I I offer stipends to

[2:49:29] participants to attend we

[2:49:32] offer catering and then we also

[2:49:34] hire local talent to perform

[2:49:37] at these workshops so yeah I

[2:49:41] think that my ask

[2:49:42] today is for you guys to you

[2:49:45] know support New Mexicoun

[2:49:47] capital because of all of the

[2:49:48] great work that they do they

[2:49:50] really are a leader in the

[2:49:52] whole50 states for innovation

[2:49:54] and indigenous entrepreneurship

[2:49:56] they're creating a whole

[2:49:58] ecosystem of that that is a

[2:50:00] model to be studied

[2:50:03] and so yes the ask is that

[2:50:05] you know we need support as

[2:50:06] entrepreneurs who are trying to

[2:50:08] give back to community and

[2:50:10] create and invent new things for

[2:50:12] the community we need the

[2:50:14] dollars to do that the

[2:50:16] visibility and really the

[2:50:17] community and trust in the

[2:50:19] kinship amongst all of us to

[2:50:21] create that thriving ecosystem.

[2:50:23] thank you

[2:50:25] thank you Akila. so yes

[2:50:32] as of right now no we do not.

[2:50:34] we did receive a small grant

[2:50:35] from the IED this past year

[2:50:38] but we have yeah we have not

[2:50:40] yes and that's also

[2:50:47] we we could have a couple more

[2:50:48] slides but it's up to you ok

[2:50:50] yeah so yeah we'll focus

[2:50:51] we'll just finish up some of the

[2:50:53] slides so Kela was talking

[2:50:55] about our turtle Island women at

[2:50:56] tech event you know, I just want

[2:50:58] to put it out there we had

[2:51:00] over100 entrepreneurs there at

[2:51:02] this event and we had

[2:51:04] BobbyRossette from Canada who

[2:51:06] just sold their business one of

[2:51:07] the first native women business

[2:51:09] owners who just sold their

[2:51:10] business for over400 million

[2:51:12] dollars, right? And so that's

[2:51:13] the type of story that's the

[2:51:14] type of hope that we're

[2:51:16] providing right just

[2:51:17] just examples of that since

[2:51:19] opening up our resilience hub

[2:51:20] we've had over19 different

[2:51:22] pueblos use our space over47

[2:51:24] other tribal nations, ix

[2:51:26] international indigenous groups

[2:51:29] over116 partner organizations we

[2:51:31] host we hope to host you all one

[2:51:33] day as well in the future we

[2:51:35] do film nights art nights

[2:51:36] wellness classes, powwow

[2:51:38] practice drum and native games

[2:51:40] and this is something that we

[2:51:41] want to expand across New Mexico

[2:51:43] right? how do we activate

[2:51:44] downtown spaces we're operating

[2:51:46] in a space called the Occidental

[2:51:49] buildingilding and if you all

[2:51:49] know that means the the western

[2:51:51] building right so it it's really

[2:51:53] symbolic that we have all of

[2:51:56] these indigenous entrepreneurs

[2:51:57] cultural bearers utilizing the

[2:51:59] space one of the nicest

[2:52:00] historical buildings in downtown

[2:52:01] Albuquerque we're hoping to

[2:52:03] purchase that building. we

[2:52:04] know that you all can't help

[2:52:06] with capital outlay but

[2:52:07] that's something that we're also

[2:52:08] fundraising for just a little

[2:52:11] bit about our access to

[2:52:12] community capital the fiscal

[2:52:14] sponsorship grants the stipends,

[2:52:16] the rooted

[2:52:16] relative loan funds the co op

[2:52:18] capital loans and did you

[2:52:19] exchange sales? these are all

[2:52:21] just numbers that we wanted to

[2:52:22] share with you all. We want nex

[2:52:24] this in the next10 years, right?

[2:52:25] this is what something that

[2:52:26] we're passionate about and we

[2:52:28] have a system that I believe

[2:52:29] works not only for indigenous

[2:52:31] communities but rural

[2:52:32] communities across New Mexico

[2:52:34] and that's why we want to keep

[2:52:35] our name New Mexicounity

[2:52:37] Capital. So I'll have thisz

[2:52:39] round us out to with our

[2:52:40] presentations so we could have

[2:52:43] start into questions.

[2:52:46] so as Jake said for the past

[2:52:49] year we've been looking at

[2:52:52] buying our building we've also

[2:52:54] been concerned about operating

[2:52:57] expenses so we can continue this

[2:53:00] work I think it is an

[2:53:03] important piece of programming

[2:53:06] to offer stipends to individuals

[2:53:10] so that raises the cost of the

[2:53:12] program a bit we also offer

[2:53:16] follow

[2:53:16] up mentorship and technical

[2:53:20] assistance so at least3 to5

[2:53:23] hours of mentorship for every

[2:53:26] person is offered and that's not

[2:53:29] just with us that could be with

[2:53:30] others Akila has been a mentor

[2:53:33] another role that

[2:53:36] Akila has filled and we have

[2:53:38] first Friday art walks madam

[2:53:41] chair you look like you have a

[2:53:42] question. OK sounds good so

[2:53:47] we have we offer first Friday

[2:53:50] art walks all the vendors that

[2:53:52] have been in our programs are

[2:53:54] invited to participate in that

[2:53:56] so we don't charge we offer food

[2:54:00] to all of the vendors that come

[2:54:02] so again paying for security

[2:54:06] you know not charging them a

[2:54:08] space buying food and then the

[2:54:10] staff is there that has to take

[2:54:13] part in it and we've done worked

[2:54:16] with the rail yards we've done40

[2:54:20] we've hosted40 different

[2:54:22] individuals we paid for the

[2:54:25] space and given them it to them

[2:54:27] we just wrapped up a five year

[2:54:30] award

[2:54:31] through the future is indigenous

[2:54:33] women so that was a five year

[2:54:36] program that we ran we were the

[2:54:39] recipient of a10 million dollars

[2:54:41] award from Melinda Gates and

[2:54:47] mackenzieco and the Schusterman

[2:54:48] Foundation to make women native

[2:54:51] women more vestable so we did

[2:54:53] that through summits and

[2:54:56] programs and the repatriating

[2:54:58] economies apprenticeship gave

[2:55:01] them a lot of air time and

[2:55:03] interviews and did community

[2:55:07] table building sessions online

[2:55:11] we had5 years of that so we just

[2:55:13] wrapped up we'll have a public

[2:55:16] report out soon

[2:55:19] with that10 million4.6 million

[2:55:23] was given back to community so

[2:55:27] that went through stipends that

[2:55:29] was loans that was technical

[2:55:32] assistance so truly almost half

[2:55:35] of it went back out to everyone

[2:55:37] that participated in the program

[2:55:40] and we'll we'll end this

[2:55:42] presentation with just one other

[2:55:44] example success story

[2:55:47] benendndo the last name might

[2:55:48] sound familiar but again also

[2:55:51] program graduate became a

[2:55:52] fiscally sponsored project

[2:55:55] helped him with branding and

[2:55:56] marketing support and helped him

[2:55:58] buy a property inhama Springs

[2:56:01] and he is fromhama pueblo and

[2:56:03] that was very symbolic to be

[2:56:04] able to have a physical location

[2:56:06] within Hama Springs to offer

[2:56:09] culturally rele relevant

[2:56:09] training capoe

[2:56:11] a training dance classes you

[2:56:14] know to his community it's now a

[2:56:16] community retreat and gathering

[2:56:17] space and just another

[2:56:19] example you know of how they

[2:56:21] went through our system and I

[2:56:23] just want to emphasize this

[2:56:23] because you all probably hear a

[2:56:25] lot of really I don't wanna say

[2:56:26] like sad stories right on this

[2:56:29] committee you know just hearing

[2:56:30] about water addiction. we want

[2:56:32] to bring this this light because

[2:56:33] I think this is the success that

[2:56:35] we want to see more of, right?

[2:56:36] people from the community

[2:56:38] supporting one another and

[2:56:40] really you know taking the

[2:56:41] emphasis to increase their

[2:56:44] generational wealth so I

[2:56:46] think we'll you know pause that

[2:56:48] you get to see a little bit of

[2:56:49] our operating budget as well and

[2:56:51] some future projects but I'll

[2:56:52] have Liz and this end this

[2:56:54] presentation thank you

[2:56:57] so we have have run a budget

[2:57:01] for the past5 years of anywhere

[2:57:09] from3.75 to4.2 million dollars

[2:57:10] and and a lot of that

[2:57:12] that's high for us and that was

[2:57:15] due to the award we managed the

[2:57:18] the funding for this we also

[2:57:21] were able to invest very safely

[2:57:24] in CDs and were backed FDIC

[2:57:27] insured so we're able even to

[2:57:30] make a little bit more but

[2:57:33] just to share that we have 88%

[2:57:37] of the money that funds us comes

[2:57:40] from grants

[2:57:41] and contributions business

[2:57:44] services is 9% for2026 interest

[2:57:45] income is3%.

[2:57:53] we that actually seems high

[2:57:56] but it's lower than what it has

[2:57:58] been has been closer to 95% and

[2:58:02] it's hard to rely on grants and

[2:58:05] private funding for this work

[2:58:08] year after year so we have not

[2:58:12] presented before and there's

[2:58:15] a couple of reasons for us being

[2:58:17] here one is

[2:58:19] we do need to diversify the way

[2:58:22] that we bring funding in and

[2:58:26] we are in a building

[2:58:29] I've been here for 8 years when

[2:58:31] I was here came in 2018 we were

[2:58:36] in a corporate office building

[2:58:38] at the corner of central andhird

[2:58:41] it felt like that was not quite

[2:58:44] our environment but that's where

[2:58:47] we were and where we landed in

[2:58:49] December of 2020 we moved to

[2:58:53] theoccidental building slowly

[2:58:56] took over4,000 square feet of

[2:58:58] space we took over another4,000

[2:59:02] square feet with the building

[2:59:05] and opening of the razillience

[2:59:07] sub two years ago October1st

[2:59:10] will be our

[2:59:11] anniversary and we raised as

[2:59:14] Jake said1.4 million dollars to

[2:59:17] finish that we have plans to

[2:59:20] expand and continue to grow in

[2:59:23] community and we need support

[2:59:26] with raising more money for

[2:59:29] the down payment we want to pair

[2:59:33] with another nonprofit who's

[2:59:35] currently on the 2nd floor and

[2:59:38] do a joint venture

[2:59:39] and own the building and this is

[2:59:43] for the long term vision of NMCc

[2:59:48] we also are looking for funding

[2:59:50] to support our programming so we

[2:59:53] can continue to build on this

[2:59:56] legacy of education and support

[3:00:00] in a way I feel is so unique in

[3:00:03] this area in this atmosphere I I

[3:00:06] truly want to see a continued

[3:00:09] Jake as our program director

[3:00:10] brings his whole life experience

[3:00:14] and it's really magical to see

[3:00:16] him lead classes and I've

[3:00:18] learned lots so

[3:00:20] we also want to move into

[3:00:23] tech more so and do it in the

[3:00:25] best way possible not relying on

[3:00:28] data centers where not for data

[3:00:30] centers but we see data servers

[3:00:33] perhaps on the second floor to

[3:00:36] make local models right and

[3:00:39] yeah and Jake has done a lot of

[3:00:42] work there he had previously

[3:00:43] worked in the grow with

[3:00:46] Google environment and for

[3:00:49] several years so

[3:00:50] they supported us and actually

[3:00:53] just granted us a little bit of

[3:00:55] money so we can continue that

[3:00:57] work with them and also of

[3:01:01] course agg right growing food

[3:01:04] we have in the resilience hub we

[3:01:06] have a gathering space that

[3:01:10] seats175 people we have a a seed

[3:01:14] vault it was previously a bank

[3:01:17] we've converted that into exceed

[3:01:18] exchange

[3:01:22] vaults so its temperature

[3:01:22] controlled mud all the way on

[3:01:25] the inside and we're having

[3:01:27] furniture we just fundraised

[3:01:29] for this having some custom

[3:01:31] pieces made so it is can be

[3:01:34] usable by community Wales of

[3:01:37] wellness space in the resilience

[3:01:38] hub so that could be

[3:01:41] traditional healing or western

[3:01:43] healing so

[3:01:44] that is our little community and

[3:01:48] we want to continue this work so

[3:01:52] I am just on the I don't

[3:01:58] know what this is the time sorry

[3:01:59] since it's my first

[3:02:01] presentation but we're trying to

[3:02:03] raise a million dollars to help

[3:02:05] with programming and developing

[3:02:08] the next vision and version of

[3:02:11] our entrepreneurial program

[3:02:13] which are called razilian

[3:02:15] circles it's already been tried

[3:02:18] out in Alaska so it is a whole

[3:02:21] wholelistic application

[3:02:23] of entrepreneurial coursework

[3:02:27] while also recognizing that

[3:02:29] there are real needs that our

[3:02:31] entrepreneurs have that are not

[3:02:33] met with that western model so

[3:02:36] that

[3:02:38] the building and just to

[3:02:39] continue the work we do and take

[3:02:42] a chance on people like Akila

[3:02:44] right I mean she was gonna make

[3:02:46] it wherever she was where

[3:02:48] fortunate that she partnered and

[3:02:50] paired with us for this kind

[3:02:53] of work but she's also gonna be

[3:02:55] just fine so that is our

[3:03:00] presentation and just want to

[3:03:03] thank you all for your attention

[3:03:06] so we had to present during

[3:03:07] lunch but yeah thank you

[3:03:10] thank you I remember when

[3:03:12] Sheilla and Melissa were first I

[3:03:14] think out

[3:03:16] I'd like to say it seemed like

[3:03:18] it was just

[3:03:24] before yeah way before I don't

[3:03:24] remember them mentioning bonero

[3:03:26] in in anybody's mind or even

[3:03:28] that thought of it but thank

[3:03:29] youpresentative Lindstrom

[3:03:32] madam chairir I just have some

[3:03:33] quick questions. I'm looking

[3:03:35] at your handout which says core

[3:03:37] annual programming and when you

[3:03:39] talk about access to community

[3:03:40] capital

[3:03:42] the first page of this handout

[3:03:44] talks about you being a venture

[3:03:46] capitalist but then it talks

[3:03:48] about giving micro grants

[3:03:51] nonpredatory loans so what

[3:03:53] are you? I mean you've got

[3:03:54] everything under the sun in

[3:03:56] here. what specifically do you

[3:03:58] do iss it venture capital work?

[3:04:00] is it grants what is it

[3:04:03] Yeah I'll I'll get to share that

[3:04:04] it's an evolution, right? So we

[3:04:06] started as a venture capital

[3:04:08] fund we saw that venture capital

[3:04:09] wasn't fitting our entrepreneur

[3:04:10] sector right so we went into

[3:04:12] CDFI right and doing loans went

[3:04:14] through the program at the time

[3:04:17] around10 years ago we didn't

[3:04:18] have many people interested in

[3:04:19] those loans even though they

[3:04:20] were low interest still that

[3:04:22] that apprehension to take out

[3:04:24] loan right debtbased financing.

[3:04:26] So we went specifically in

[3:04:27] grants and grant support of

[3:04:29] course everyone loves grants

[3:04:30] right nonrecoverable grants

[3:04:33] right now we're looking at being

[3:04:35] an intermediary as we know the

[3:04:36] state investment council the

[3:04:38] strategy that's behind that we

[3:04:39] feel like we're a really strong

[3:04:40] intermediary and we feel like

[3:04:42] we're really strong fiscal

[3:04:43] sponsor that does programming so

[3:04:45] I'll let Liz kind of share that

[3:04:48] we actually also with our

[3:04:49] with our rooted relative fund

[3:04:51] you could also share about that

[3:04:52] structure.

[3:04:54] so I I feel like we're doing a

[3:04:56] redo for everything so we're not

[3:04:59] in venture capital anymore I

[3:05:01] think you know I can argue that

[3:05:04] we're taking risks on people but

[3:05:08] really we're not looking at it

[3:05:10] that way we are one of three

[3:05:13] pilot nonprofits to in arizona

[3:05:17] and one here via RCAc to run

[3:05:21] the rooted relative fund so

[3:05:24] this is one of the community

[3:05:26] capital pieces we offer3% at

[3:05:31] a loans up to $250,000 so we

[3:05:38] have this for three years we're

[3:05:40] just starting our3rd year of it

[3:05:43] we're supporting CJ

[3:05:47] Bernal in Taos pueblo and Don

[3:05:50] butterfly cafe so we came in

[3:05:53] with the

[3:05:54] you know the capital stack he

[3:05:56] needed to convert a restaurant

[3:05:59] outside Taos pueblo we helped

[3:06:02] other make other folks like him

[3:06:06] nicole Arthun who came from

[3:06:09] changing women initiative and is

[3:06:11] starting you to be brief. OK

[3:06:18] OK so it's a3% loan that's what

[3:06:18] you offer

[3:06:20] and is that a flat rate or is

[3:06:23] that does that change with

[3:06:25] interest it is a flat rate3% so

[3:06:31] in case you were before another

[3:06:33] committee through the chair and

[3:06:34] then to the to the rep apologize

[3:06:37] yeah madam chairirpresentative

[3:06:41] Luundstrom apologies

[3:06:44] so instead of the native CDy

[3:06:47] that we're part of we knew that

[3:06:49] we had

[3:06:50] to do something differently so

[3:06:52] we went with two different loans

[3:06:54] that are relationshipbased loans

[3:06:57] one is co op Capital which is on

[3:07:01] air which is a5% fixed rate loan

[3:07:03] up to50,000 dollars the other is

[3:07:07] rooted relative fund which is up

[3:07:10] to 250,000 that's a3% so we have

[3:07:15] the capacity of lending3 million

[3:07:16] dollars

[3:07:20] we've lent so far one.05 million

[3:07:25] over the past two years were now

[3:07:28] building a program around it

[3:07:30] because we see the need so

[3:07:32] relationship based lending

[3:07:35] so that's what we turned it into

[3:07:38] versus just regular bank

[3:07:41] loans or lending

[3:07:44] Yeah I

[3:07:45] madam chairir and presenters, I

[3:07:48] appreciate you bringing this up

[3:07:49] but

[3:07:50] I live in this world so it's not

[3:07:54] that I'm trying to to poke

[3:07:57] holes through this. I just want

[3:07:59] to understand it. I wonders

[3:08:00] understand what you're actually

[3:08:01] doing here because

[3:08:02] when you talk I would take that

[3:08:04] whole venture capital thing out

[3:08:06] of here because the first thing

[3:08:07] I thought when I looked at that

[3:08:08] is how much do you guys get of

[3:08:10] the company? How much do you own

[3:08:12] of the companies that you helped

[3:08:12] them

[3:08:14] but I'm glad you're not doing

[3:08:15] that and I'm glad you're not

[3:08:18] because I can't imagine any

[3:08:20] small entrepreneur coming to you

[3:08:22] and asking for those kind of

[3:08:23] loans either

[3:08:24] so just trying to trying to

[3:08:26] get my arms around what you're

[3:08:28] trying to do now as a nonprofit

[3:08:31] it's hard for us the state as a

[3:08:34] state

[3:08:35] to provide

[3:08:36] capital outlay or even general

[3:08:39] appropriation funds to

[3:08:41] nonprofits you have to have a

[3:08:43] fiscal agent that can accept

[3:08:45] those funds do you have somebody

[3:08:47] like that or did you know

[3:08:55] yes madam chair andres

[3:08:59] Lindstrom where I did not

[3:09:00] know that I needed a physical to

[3:09:03] accept those funds

[3:09:07] we can talk offline about that

[3:09:08] or anyone can help you with

[3:09:10] it but I I was just curious how

[3:09:12] that was going to work we we are

[3:09:13] not allowed

[3:09:14] to give funding directly to

[3:09:18] nonprofits especially for

[3:09:20] capital purposes

[3:09:21] but this programming looks very

[3:09:24] intriguing and I'm surprised

[3:09:25] that it wouldn't fit under some

[3:09:27] of our existing programs

[3:09:30] just just bring that to your

[3:09:32] attention thank you madam chair

[3:09:34] thank you thank youpresentative.

[3:09:36] Any other questions from

[3:09:37] committee members?

[3:09:38] Representative roybarabballero.

[3:09:40] thank you madam chair and thank

[3:09:42] you very much I I do understand

[3:09:44] fully what you're doing. I've

[3:09:45] done this

[3:09:46] probably when it

[3:09:47] we were trailblazing this whole

[3:09:50] concept of community economic

[3:09:52] development

[3:09:53] that approach was done in the

[3:09:57] early1980s actually it was

[3:09:59] an experimental federal

[3:10:01] program that began under the

[3:10:05] Reagan administration's

[3:10:07] self-help concepts

[3:10:08] right that was a long time ago.

[3:10:10] So we set up an entity similar

[3:10:12] to yours in southern end of

[3:10:14] southern New Mexico and

[3:10:17] El Paso region

[3:10:20] excuse me and again as I said it

[3:10:22] was ahead of its time

[3:10:23] it was also sponsored through

[3:10:25] the Development training

[3:10:26] institute out of Baltimore at

[3:10:28] Maryland which is where I got my

[3:10:30] certification madam chairir. So

[3:10:32] I I'm I'm fully aware of what

[3:10:36] you're attempting to do and what

[3:10:38] you're doing actually so I have

[3:10:40] a couple of questions and that

[3:10:41] is

[3:10:44] we do have and I think you

[3:10:46] mentioned it the

[3:10:48] state in investment co, can you

[3:10:53] explain a little bit more what

[3:10:55] did you establish a relationship

[3:10:57] with the SIC?

[3:10:59] madam chairirpresentative

[3:11:02] Caballero we are we are

[3:11:02] currently establishing that

[3:11:05] relationship with the state

[3:11:06] investment council we're trying

[3:11:07] to find out what our niche is

[3:11:09] you know we know that they they

[3:11:10] have invested over $2 billion in

[3:11:13] over40 different venture capital

[3:11:14] funds and we're wanting to just

[3:11:15] again build relations find any

[3:11:17] clues that you all have. this is

[3:11:19] exactly why we're here just

[3:11:21] making those introductions

[3:11:21] because we yeah we feel like we

[3:11:23] can help

[3:11:24] the state. thank you madam Chair

[3:11:26] and thank you. I think to

[3:11:28] continue to establish that

[3:11:30] relationship is important also

[3:11:32] the relationship with the New

[3:11:33] Mexico finance Authority I

[3:11:36] think that

[3:11:36] you they will explain to you the

[3:11:40] various steps that would be

[3:11:41] necessary for your entity to be

[3:11:44] able to enter into a

[3:11:47] relationship at the state level

[3:11:49] and address the the questions

[3:11:51] that have come up with by

[3:11:52] Representative Luundstrom and

[3:11:54] other andpresentative Lumstrom

[3:11:55] and

[3:11:56] it it

[3:12:00] it will guide you in terms of

[3:12:03] the steps that you need to

[3:12:05] follow in building that

[3:12:07] relationship because this is a

[3:12:09] fine area of

[3:12:10] concentration you have

[3:12:14] identified the downtown

[3:12:15] Albuquerque revitalization, the

[3:12:17] ethical Ai agricultural work as

[3:12:20] your focus I guess your your

[3:12:22] focus

[3:12:23] in terms of

[3:12:25] fundraising and I think it's

[3:12:28] really important those three

[3:12:30] areas agricultural work madam

[3:12:32] chairir is vitally important

[3:12:33] right now because we've got to

[3:12:35] bring in that indigenous

[3:12:38] knowledge that we have in terms

[3:12:40] of agriculture and food

[3:12:42] preservation

[3:12:43] we're faced with a climate

[3:12:45] crisis we're also faced with an

[3:12:48] unwanted war we're also faced

[3:12:50] with a very

[3:12:51] gloomy future in terms of water

[3:12:57] in terms of pollution of our

[3:13:00] air and land and destruction of

[3:13:02] our land so a lot of these and

[3:13:05] so we've got to bring back that

[3:13:07] indigenous knowledge madam

[3:13:09] chair to help us find ways to

[3:13:12] preserve food for the future

[3:13:15] should we faced and when it's

[3:13:19] not going to happen in our

[3:13:19] lifetime I'm worried about our

[3:13:21] children and grandchildren and

[3:13:22] great grandchild

[3:13:23] re n because they may be faced

[3:13:24] with well I don't know in our

[3:13:27] lifetime we may face invasion of

[3:13:29] our utilities or the outages

[3:13:32] more and more outages and lack

[3:13:34] of water we already heard this

[3:13:35] morning madam chairir that we

[3:13:37] have communities which is

[3:13:38] appalling to me that are

[3:13:41] faced with all those conditions

[3:13:43] still

[3:13:44] in this time period

[3:13:46] so I just want to make sure

[3:13:49] that

[3:13:50] we establish you as a a

[3:13:53] real strong place within again

[3:13:58] New Mexico finance Authority and

[3:14:00] the state Investment co in

[3:14:01] particular those two entities so

[3:14:03] that you can be of further

[3:14:05] service to our

[3:14:08] ribes nations and pueblos and

[3:14:10] bring bring all of that success

[3:14:12] forward and last point is I do

[3:14:14] want to commend you and your

[3:14:16] funder acknowledgements

[3:14:17] because you you have tapped into

[3:14:20] the US economic development,

[3:14:22] small business and the

[3:14:25] administration for Native

[3:14:26] Americans those were all

[3:14:27] entities that we were

[3:14:30] so they were very strong support

[3:14:32] so thank you very much thank you

[3:14:34] madam chair

[3:14:36] madamirpresentative Caballero

[3:14:36] thank you so much for your words

[3:14:38] we also received atl grant

[3:14:40] from the Mexico Economic

[3:14:41] Development to become a

[3:14:43] certified incubator and

[3:14:44] accelerator so that I think that

[3:14:45] also answers your

[3:14:46] questionpresentative Liundstrom

[3:14:48] as well so we definitely want to

[3:14:49] stay in conversations we want

[3:14:51] just more Face time you know we

[3:14:52] hear that a lot of people have

[3:14:54] never heard of New Mexico

[3:14:55] community capital so that's also

[3:14:57] a reason why we're here we want

[3:14:58] to make sure that we're in

[3:14:59] community making the trips out

[3:15:01] to gallup and other locations

[3:15:02] and lastly we also

[3:15:04] helped bidi Baoos Zachariah

[3:15:07] Mary ben buy a four acre farm

[3:15:09] outside of Farmington in aztec,

[3:15:11] New Mexico and help them with

[3:15:13] their freeze drying operation

[3:15:15] and baby food line. so thank

[3:15:17] you.

[3:15:18] thank youpresentative

[3:15:20] any other questions for members

[3:15:23] so

[3:15:23] you want a million dollars to do

[3:15:27] building.

[3:15:30] madam chairir we do but we

[3:15:33] also I think we're a s re kind

[3:15:35] of framing that for programming

[3:15:37] so we're not asking asking for

[3:15:38] capital

[3:15:40] at this point that that that's a

[3:15:41] whole different thing now

[3:15:44] willing to do that but what's

[3:15:47] your background akila what did

[3:15:48] you get a degree at Stanford or

[3:15:51] what what what kind of or yeah

[3:15:54] so I like I said I'm from south

[3:15:56] of Gallup and I primarily live

[3:15:57] there now. I got a bachelor of

[3:16:00] fine arts from Universityiv of

[3:16:01] New Mexico and then I went

[3:16:03] and took care of my grandma into

[3:16:04] hospice up until 2018 and then I

[3:16:07] kind of entered theXR augmented

[3:16:09] reality technology scene

[3:16:11] through a nontraditional route

[3:16:13] so I did a lot of

[3:16:14] like coding boot camps but what

[3:16:16] I did is that I attended

[3:16:18] hackathons at like MIt and

[3:16:20] Stanford joined teams and then

[3:16:22] that's how I won the awards

[3:16:23] there and the reason I ask is

[3:16:25] because when one of the

[3:16:27] granddaughters too wanted

[3:16:29] I believe graphic arts degree

[3:16:32] good didn't have any here in New

[3:16:33] Mexico are higher education

[3:16:35] institutions didn't offer so she

[3:16:37] had to go out of state and what

[3:16:39] I'm reading too with some of our

[3:16:41] higher education institutions

[3:16:43] you went through fine arts but

[3:16:46] you probably just had one or two

[3:16:47] classes in digital or technology

[3:16:50] yeah it was only just a few that

[3:16:52] were offered but that's kind of

[3:16:53] where I really saw coding as

[3:16:56] an avenue for me and then

[3:16:58] that it exactly like

[3:17:00] I had to join a I received an

[3:17:02] immersive technology fellowship

[3:17:04] that enabled me to travel

[3:17:05] between Los Angeles and New York

[3:17:07] City to learn about social

[3:17:09] entrepreneurship coupled withXR

[3:17:12] technologies so that's kind of

[3:17:13] like what really was

[3:17:14] foundational for me and then

[3:17:16] the supporting the supportive

[3:17:18] environment that NMCc provide

[3:17:20] was really

[3:17:21] huge for me because like even

[3:17:24] I've had family members talk

[3:17:26] down on me saying like why are

[3:17:28] you going down this

[3:17:29] nontraditional path like you

[3:17:30] should just get a regular job

[3:17:31] you know like not believing in

[3:17:33] the vision so like I think that

[3:17:35] I think a lot of entrepreneurs

[3:17:37] we can face an environment like

[3:17:40] that but when we step into a

[3:17:41] supportive environment like NMCc

[3:17:43] that I think is a really like

[3:17:47] a local environment that was

[3:17:49] really helpful for me on my

[3:17:50] journey

[3:17:51] and you think that's one thing

[3:17:52] that I'm not I mean we do try to

[3:17:54] do stuff through our career

[3:17:56] technical education

[3:17:57] but when we talk about a lot of

[3:18:00] this doing with the coding and

[3:18:02] online I don't think our

[3:18:03] curriculum

[3:18:06] still with the traditional

[3:18:08] route but we're not adapting

[3:18:11] very much very quickly and I

[3:18:13] think that's where we end up

[3:18:15] lacking very much behind. Yeah.

[3:18:17] so one of my funders that is

[3:18:19] actually most likely gonna be

[3:18:21] renewed before the end of the

[3:18:22] year and that's the fiscal

[3:18:24] the funding went through the

[3:18:25] these guys as a fiscal agent

[3:18:28] that is the next mission is

[3:18:30] programming especially on the

[3:18:32] Navajo Nation and then

[3:18:34] there's also another source of

[3:18:34] fun

[3:18:36] ding that glittering world girl

[3:18:37] is tapping into to bring

[3:18:41] technologyXR technology

[3:18:42] programming associated with

[3:18:44] mural creation so it's like art

[3:18:45] and technology like s steam

[3:18:48] into Bernnailo County as well so

[3:18:50] yeah and I think that with

[3:18:53] with the budget cuts that

[3:18:56] schools have been seeing this

[3:18:57] could be a model too that

[3:18:59] programming that goes into

[3:19:01] schools and that they don't have

[3:19:03] to fund it themselves so you did

[3:19:06] receive

[3:19:06] money from the nation and that's

[3:19:07] the thing I'm kind of so the the

[3:19:09] bit confused about in some sense

[3:19:12] because you're saying you're the

[3:19:13] only native American nonprofit

[3:19:15] yes you're probably the only

[3:19:17] nonprofit but our tribes nations

[3:19:19] and pueblos do there do you have

[3:19:22] their own economic development

[3:19:23] money but you did not receive it

[3:19:25] or you didn't qualify for it. I

[3:19:28] madam chairir, I I have not

[3:19:32] received money from the Navajo

[3:19:34] Nation.

[3:19:35] you didn't qualify or you didn't

[3:19:37] never applied or what what what

[3:19:39] do you to be clear I did receive

[3:19:41] their the hardship assistance

[3:19:43] that was for the artisans

[3:19:46] during COVID that's the that's

[3:19:48] what I've received from the

[3:19:48] Navajo Nation that was for

[3:19:51] small businesses and artisans

[3:19:52] for COID during theOID pandemic

[3:19:55] but I honestly have not even

[3:19:59] tried to see if I could apply

[3:20:00] for funding from the Navajo

[3:20:02] Nation past that

[3:20:04] so then that's the thing I'm

[3:20:06] wondering too with the nonpro

[3:20:08] you know a nonprofit as far as a

[3:20:09] resource too is that the funding

[3:20:12] also

[3:20:16] that you also put them in touch

[3:20:17] with their own tribes nations

[3:20:18] and publiclos because they find

[3:20:20] that as the fiscal agent that's

[3:20:22] where our money would be

[3:20:22] funneled to to LEA

[3:20:24] in that way and that our tribes

[3:20:27] nations of pueblos can apply for

[3:20:29] it to implement these programs

[3:20:31] within there as far as

[3:20:32] sovereignty and when you were

[3:20:35] speaking about just women

[3:20:36] receiving something like that

[3:20:38] but that I don't think is

[3:20:39] something we do in general we

[3:20:41] try to it's not about sex it's

[3:20:44] just about you know making

[3:20:46] sure everybody has that

[3:20:47] opportunity equal opportunity

[3:20:49] for the funding so very

[3:20:51] interesting but I like very

[3:20:53] much needed for what you're

[3:20:54] doing

[3:20:55] but you know we need further

[3:20:56] discussion and clarity so I do

[3:20:58] offer you to you know talk to

[3:21:00] our members here to to

[3:21:08] ation and even as far as

[3:21:09] moving forward in need I don't

[3:21:11] know if you have any closing

[3:21:11] comments

[3:21:15] madam chairirpresentative

[3:21:18] senators they just want to thank

[3:21:20] you for your patience and time

[3:21:23] and attention and this is

[3:21:27] really important work to us and

[3:21:29] I feel that

[3:21:31] we do an amazing heartfelt

[3:21:36] job with community and we want

[3:21:40] to see it continue so if there

[3:21:43] are opportunities you know of

[3:21:46] that we don't know and to be

[3:21:49] honest I am not as familiar. I

[3:21:53] can talk about grants all day

[3:21:56] longvi donors that kind of thing

[3:21:58] so much the the state facing and

[3:22:01] don't so

[3:22:02] yeah I just want to say thank

[3:22:05] you I appreciate your help and

[3:22:07] if you have any other

[3:22:09] recommendations or tips ok

[3:22:12] wonderful

[3:22:13] do you know thank you so much

[3:22:16] have a very good day thank you

[3:22:18] thank you and now we will move

[3:22:21] on to public comment

[3:22:24] with our people here

[3:22:26] and we don't have anybody online

[3:22:31] so we don't

[3:22:34] 78 people

[3:22:38] So I think Peter's doing it

[3:22:41] oh he's don't say

[3:22:43] someone can call Bill Lee

[3:22:45] outside

[3:22:49] I'll text him. OK

[3:22:51] we can we'll do one before

[3:22:54] before Peter with Peter in there

[3:22:56] with him too

[3:22:59] can Ken's not here

[3:23:02] reagan

[3:23:04] Hawthorne

[3:23:05] may come up introduce yourself

[3:23:10] Good afternoon madam chair

[3:23:42] members of the committee

[3:23:44] thank you for the invitation and

[3:23:45] for the permission to speak. I

[3:23:47] am Reagan Hawthorne. I am from

[3:23:49] the magnolito chapter and the

[3:23:52] community services coordinator

[3:23:53] there at manualito have been

[3:23:54] with manualitto chapter since

[3:23:56] November of last year

[3:23:59] just about a month ago I

[3:24:00] received an invitation through

[3:24:02] email to sit before the

[3:24:04] committee and express some

[3:24:05] thoughts about believe it was

[3:24:07] capital outlay

[3:24:09] I shared that invitation with

[3:24:10] our chapter officials and Mr

[3:24:14] Daniel Lee our chapter president

[3:24:15] is here with me today. I have

[3:24:17] not come with a script per se

[3:24:20] but would have come with is a

[3:24:21] message and a couple of

[3:24:23] inquiries so I'll allow Mr. Lee

[3:24:25] to introduce himself.

[3:24:30] good afternoon. chair

[3:24:31] and committee thank you for

[3:24:34] inviting us and then

[3:24:38] it's like Reagan said my CSE

[3:24:39] and

[3:24:41] then do a little bit of a

[3:24:42] presentation and we'll just do

[3:24:45] it offhands instead of having

[3:24:47] notes and all that so

[3:24:48] thank you

[3:24:54] Again madam chair members of the

[3:24:55] committee representing

[3:24:58] mannuitto chapter first and

[3:24:59] foremost we are a smaller

[3:25:02] chapter our our service area

[3:25:04] probably covers just under1,000

[3:25:06] individuals now who are

[3:25:08] individuals we have numerous

[3:25:11] capital outlay projects we have

[3:25:14] I believe14 projects upwards of

[3:25:17] $6 million that are in the in in

[3:25:19] the cooker so to speak we have a

[3:25:21] number that are very very active

[3:25:23] we have a number

[3:25:24] that are being delayed the

[3:25:26] biggest portion of the delayed

[3:25:28] projects falls upon our

[3:25:30] electrification projects

[3:25:32] the biggest

[3:25:33] obstacle for our electrification

[3:25:36] power line residential projects

[3:25:38] is right of way access given

[3:25:41] the various land statuses that

[3:25:43] we have in your manually to

[3:25:44] chapter of course we're on

[3:25:45] Navajo Trust land we're also on

[3:25:47] allotted land we are on state

[3:25:50] land we have a number of issues

[3:25:52] that are very very challenging

[3:25:54] so getting the rights of way is

[3:25:56] a very very extensive experience

[3:25:59] I am looking right now at one

[3:26:02] particular project that has

[3:26:03] been on the books for manuallito

[3:26:06] chapters since 2008 and the

[3:26:09] biggest hindrance there is the

[3:26:11] right of way access. now the

[3:26:14] the contracting company

[3:26:16] continental Divide has done

[3:26:17] their share of reaching out.

[3:26:18] They are in now in the fourth

[3:26:21] round of sending out appeals for

[3:26:24] right of way through allottees

[3:26:26] and things of that nature. So

[3:26:28] and where I'm going with this is

[3:26:30] I I would like to see some sort

[3:26:33] of a

[3:26:33] an amendment or an addressing of

[3:26:36] an issue here in these kinds of

[3:26:38] situations where where a lottes

[3:26:41] and other land issues are really

[3:26:44] an obstacle to getting the right

[3:26:46] of way in for these

[3:26:47] electrification projects we

[3:26:50] have4 clients on this particular

[3:26:51] project that have been waiting

[3:26:52] for power for

[3:26:54] a number of years 20 since 2008

[3:26:57] and if there if there could be

[3:26:59] some some investigatory

[3:27:01] committee or something perhaps

[3:27:02] we can offer some solutions

[3:27:05] perhaps manuallito chapter

[3:27:06] could be more forward more more

[3:27:08] proactive in reaching out to

[3:27:12] the allottees but the biggest

[3:27:15] obstacle that we're seeing is

[3:27:17] right of way just gaining

[3:27:20] right of way

[3:27:23] whether whether it be you know

[3:27:26] the the allottes on the

[3:27:26] allotment lands there are some

[3:27:28] state land issues we we're

[3:27:28] just

[3:27:33] I'm going to say we're we're a

[3:27:34] little frustrated at it of

[3:27:36] course they're there are there

[3:27:37] are other issues there are there

[3:27:39] are some systems systemic issues

[3:27:40] within the the processes

[3:27:43] withnavo Nation there are other

[3:27:45] issues there but the biggest

[3:27:46] problem we have is gaining right

[3:27:48] of way so for the

[3:27:50] electrification

[3:27:52] secondly I would appeal to

[3:27:55] this committee

[3:27:58] to advocate for a voice in an

[3:28:02] area called manualito Big House

[3:28:04] Ruins. It is a national historic

[3:28:07] landmark there are3 families

[3:28:11] that have been in that area

[3:28:14] that that that that that's their

[3:28:15] homeland and they do not have

[3:28:18] the basic

[3:28:20] infrastructure needed they do

[3:28:23] not have water lines they do not

[3:28:25] have power

[3:28:26] I am meeting Wednesday with

[3:28:29] these families on what I have

[3:28:31] coined as the big house task

[3:28:35] forcece. What I want to do is

[3:28:37] gain an audience with our

[3:28:40] Navonation source and

[3:28:42] Developmentittee to see if we

[3:28:42] can't advocate that this

[3:28:45] property which is on state land

[3:28:47] there is on the fringes of this

[3:28:50] property

[3:28:50] a power line

[3:28:53] one of the families on this

[3:28:54] property does have power

[3:28:56] but there are two other families

[3:28:58] there that have no power and

[3:28:59] have no water. the families that

[3:29:01] are that are without the water

[3:29:03] they do

[3:29:04] live on a cistern system

[3:29:08] but the fellow's getting old and

[3:29:10] he can't operate that cistern

[3:29:12] and these things these are not

[3:29:14] gonna change so my petition here

[3:29:16] particularly tends to a voice

[3:29:21] perhaps a voice with the state

[3:29:23] land board with from our

[3:29:25] constituents there at manualito

[3:29:29] through thenavo Nation Resource

[3:29:29] and Development Committee. I

[3:29:31] don't pretend to be a a

[3:29:32] magnanimous voice for everybody

[3:29:35] but I believe if we have the

[3:29:36] backing of our own council that

[3:29:38] we can talk to the the New

[3:29:40] Mexico State Land Commission and

[3:29:41] through this committee here

[3:29:42] perhaps gain

[3:29:43] gain some ground on bringing

[3:29:48] infrastructure to these families

[3:29:49] that live on the on the the

[3:29:51] perimeters of this historic

[3:29:54] landmark so those are my two

[3:29:56] messages today

[3:30:01] Yeah I like to add to that we

[3:30:04] did contact

[3:30:06] Santape

[3:30:08] and

[3:30:10] they just told us to get

[3:30:12] representative like you guys and

[3:30:14] saying that ok

[3:30:17] we we know about the spartan

[3:30:20] all this

[3:30:22] other stuff like GPS and all

[3:30:25] that and you know you guys know

[3:30:27] whereabouts this place is then

[3:30:32] they recommendations and then

[3:30:34] that way they can somebody from

[3:30:36] the commission can override it

[3:30:38] and that's the reason why we're

[3:30:40] here and

[3:30:42] even with the roads that's the

[3:30:45] reason why some of our capital

[3:30:46] outlay went and reverted back

[3:30:48] and we tried working

[3:30:51] with the

[3:30:54] county commissioners

[3:30:55] and then

[3:30:57] some of our

[3:31:00] projects

[3:31:00] went and reverted back and it's

[3:31:03] due to the consents like he said

[3:31:07] well right away and then now

[3:31:09] they said that they revoked it

[3:31:11] all the

[3:31:13] MOUs so

[3:31:15] we don't know

[3:31:17] you know what's going to happen

[3:31:19] now because a lot of people that

[3:31:21] are in a community has

[3:31:24] kids that go to school

[3:31:27] and at the same time they

[3:31:29] commute

[3:31:30] to gallup

[3:31:32] so

[3:31:35] with that being said

[3:31:37] we should like to have them help

[3:31:40] from you guys

[3:31:40] as far as

[3:31:44] and doing all this other stuff

[3:31:46] and then that way we can move on

[3:31:48] with our projects and improve on

[3:31:50] some of the roads and provide

[3:31:52] service like water service and

[3:31:55] power line to these community

[3:31:57] members that's what we're asking

[3:31:59] of today and at the same time

[3:32:04] on the other hand

[3:32:06] my wife is a teacher in Tohachi

[3:32:10] and they moved us to

[3:32:12] twin lakes and we do have issues

[3:32:16] with the power line and water

[3:32:19] there's no power there's no

[3:32:21] pressure in the water most of

[3:32:23] the time

[3:32:24] and then in the middle of my

[3:32:27] wife doing her lesson plan

[3:32:30] the power goes off there's no

[3:32:32] surcharge or anything we

[3:32:35] complained about that so many

[3:32:37] times

[3:32:38] every time it goes out we

[3:32:40] complain to

[3:32:41] NTUA

[3:32:44] they had done nothing

[3:32:45] and even our our street light

[3:32:49] right outside our trailer

[3:32:50] it just goes out they haven't

[3:32:53] done nothing about it

[3:32:54] so

[3:32:57] that's

[3:32:58] the other thing that I wanted to

[3:33:00] add to twin Lakes that were

[3:33:02] here present

[3:33:04] during the presentation

[3:33:06] thank you

[3:33:08] thank you thank you for your

[3:33:10] your words there and we'll move

[3:33:12] on to our next Bille and then

[3:33:15] I don't know if Peter is

[3:33:20] Oh yeah so this is public

[3:33:22] comment so we don't want to ask

[3:33:23] questions but I'll talk

[3:33:41] Good afternoon madam chair

[3:33:43] members of the committee staff

[3:33:45] thank you for allowing me a few

[3:33:46] minutes today my name is Bill

[3:33:48] Lee I'm with KJg Strategy

[3:33:50] registered lobbyists for

[3:33:53] Levanova a company devoted to

[3:33:54] helping people living with

[3:33:57] drug resistant epilepsy or what

[3:33:59] is referred to as DRE I want

[3:34:02] to say thank you to

[3:34:03] Representative Lindstrom. She

[3:34:04] along with Representative

[3:34:05] Herndon have sponsored

[3:34:06] legislation concerning this

[3:34:09] issue that I bring before you

[3:34:10] today during public comment

[3:34:12] leavingvanova manufactures

[3:34:13] what is called a vagus nerve

[3:34:17] stimulation a BNS therapy

[3:34:18] treatment that can actually

[3:34:19] reduce seizures and improve a

[3:34:21] patient's quality of life. it's

[3:34:23] been approved by the FDA and has

[3:34:24] been been available for ir0

[3:34:26] years. Today what I'd like to

[3:34:28] share more than the the the VNS

[3:34:30] system itself is the impact that

[3:34:33] people living with drug

[3:34:34] resistant epilepsy in a face in

[3:34:37] New Mexico when most people hear

[3:34:39] that word epilepsy they think

[3:34:40] this is a

[3:34:41] condition that can be controlled

[3:34:42] primarily by medication but the

[3:34:44] sad truth is about1 in3

[3:34:46] individuals is not treatable or

[3:34:49] they are not treatable by

[3:34:50] medications and so despite

[3:34:52] trying several anti seizure

[3:34:54] therapies and medications

[3:34:57] these patients are considered to

[3:34:58] have what is called drug

[3:34:59] resistant epilepsy DRE and

[3:35:02] for these patients a seizure is

[3:35:04] more than just an event it can

[3:35:06] actually be life threatening

[3:35:07] and lead to death. as this

[3:35:10] challenge dis

[3:35:12] p ro port ion ate ly affects

[3:35:12] some of New Mexico's most

[3:35:13] vulnerable populations and

[3:35:16] that is why we are in particular

[3:35:18] speaking about this today in

[3:35:19] front of this committeesearch

[3:35:21] shows that Native American

[3:35:22] communities experience a greater

[3:35:24] burden of epilepsy and epilepsy

[3:35:27] related disparities than many

[3:35:29] other populations in fact the

[3:35:30] Navajo nation it is estimated

[3:35:32] alone has about1600 cases of

[3:35:36] drug resistant epilepsy yet

[3:35:39] despite this need New Mexico has

[3:35:40] been left

[3:35:41] with an extraordinary access

[3:35:43] problem and a challenge that

[3:35:45] we still face today. The

[3:35:47] Universityiv of New Mexico

[3:35:48] hospitalspital is the only

[3:35:49] hospital in our state performing

[3:35:51] VNS implant procedures and we

[3:35:54] may soon lose them as the

[3:35:58] only provider in the state the

[3:36:00] reason is simple the low

[3:36:02] medicaid reimbursement to

[3:36:05] hospitals for the procedure is

[3:36:06] far too low and has not changed

[3:36:09] since 2014 when

[3:36:11] an entire state depends on a

[3:36:12] single hospital for access to

[3:36:15] specialized therapy patients and

[3:36:16] families often face of course

[3:36:18] significant barriers manyy must

[3:36:20] travel long distances multiple

[3:36:22] times consultations surgery

[3:36:24] and followup care. Some require

[3:36:26] transportation assistance. this

[3:36:28] includes airlifts from places

[3:36:30] like Gallup others simply do

[3:36:33] not have the financial means and

[3:36:35] the family support of logistical

[3:36:36] ability to make these trips and

[3:36:38] so wait times again as we

[3:36:41] all know for specialists in the

[3:36:42] state can be extraordinarily

[3:36:44] long. All of these barriers

[3:36:47] result in patients continually

[3:36:48] cycling through the emergency

[3:36:50] rooms and through hospital

[3:36:51] admissions resulting in much

[3:36:54] higher costs for not only the

[3:36:55] families but for our own

[3:36:58] healthcare authority here in New

[3:36:58] Mexico because the system just

[3:37:00] keeps recycling these folks

[3:37:02] rather than treating what is

[3:37:04] there

[3:37:04] what we know is that there is

[3:37:07] funding through medicaid

[3:37:09] available and actually the state

[3:37:11] is leaving dollars on the table

[3:37:13] by not getting full

[3:37:14] reimbursement for this

[3:37:16] procedure. we have this issue

[3:37:18] now before thelfC and have put

[3:37:21] that there we may hopefully

[3:37:24] call on Representative

[3:37:26] Lindstrom and Representative

[3:37:26] Herndon again to carry

[3:37:28] legislation just to bolster that

[3:37:29] support in thelfC so this

[3:37:34] is not simply

[3:37:34] a reimbursement discussion it

[3:37:36] really is an access issue it's a

[3:37:39] rural healthcare issue obviously

[3:37:40] and it is a tribal healthcare

[3:37:42] issue today we ask for your

[3:37:44] legislative support to get the

[3:37:46] department to cover the cost to

[3:37:48] help improve the health and

[3:37:49] quality of life for New Mexicans

[3:37:51] dealing with drug resistant

[3:37:52] epilepsy we want to regre again

[3:37:53] Representative Lenstone,

[3:37:56] Representative Herndon who've

[3:37:57] carried this legislation and are

[3:38:00] working to resolve this issue

[3:38:01] along our side and we thank you

[3:38:04] for your time

[3:38:04] thank you for coming to gallup.

[3:38:06] this is my hometown we're glad

[3:38:08] you're here and thank you for

[3:38:10] your commitment to serve New

[3:38:11] Mexicans everywhere with that

[3:38:13] madam chairir, I'll yield. thank

[3:38:16] Thank you Peterammpo

[3:38:28] Yes

[3:38:31] hey hey hey hey come on it

[3:38:33] wasn't it wasn't that bad from

[3:38:35] what I remember

[3:38:37] right madam chair members of the

[3:38:39] committee and guests first

[3:38:41] and foremost I would like to

[3:38:42] welcome you all to gallup

[3:38:44] I know this wasn't the

[3:38:45] planned meeting location but we

[3:38:48] are glad to have you here and we

[3:38:50] would welcome you guys coming

[3:38:51] back anytime for any other

[3:38:52] committees that you might have

[3:38:53] so I hope that you guys have

[3:38:55] felt warm a warm welcome here

[3:38:57] and hopefully we'll see I know I

[3:38:59] will see you guys during

[3:39:00] legislative session and

[3:39:01] hopefully before then as well.

[3:39:03] some of you I know very well

[3:39:05] and some of you I've met maybe

[3:39:06] once or twice over at the

[3:39:08] state capitol and I hope to get

[3:39:09] you to know you as well as my

[3:39:12] my mentor here Bill

[3:39:14] is so he obviously had a little

[3:39:15] bit different of an agenda than

[3:39:17] what I did. I just wanted to

[3:39:18] make sure that you guys felt

[3:39:19] welcome here there is one

[3:39:21] thing that I would like to bring

[3:39:22] to this committee it's been

[3:39:25] talked about

[3:39:25] in other places and maybe you

[3:39:27] guys can give us a legup

[3:39:29] as you know we have been

[3:39:31] flooded in this area not only in

[3:39:33] the gallup area but in McKinley

[3:39:35] County and and across the state

[3:39:37] for that matter

[3:39:38] we are going to need some

[3:39:40] help

[3:39:41] not only in gallup but in the

[3:39:43] county

[3:39:43] to get our flood systems up to

[3:39:47] speed and be able to handle

[3:39:48] capacity now yes this might be

[3:39:50] an abnormal year for storms

[3:39:51] but as you've seen on some of

[3:39:54] the video that's been taken

[3:39:55] especially up in the Mexican

[3:39:57] spprings area and and up in

[3:39:59] northern McKinley County I mean

[3:40:00] they've had entire roads that

[3:40:02] have been washed out by the

[3:40:03] floods and it's more just

[3:40:05] because we haven't had enough

[3:40:07] foresight to plan for that kind

[3:40:09] of capacity of water gallup

[3:40:11] also does suffer from that

[3:40:14] you know we have a a majority

[3:40:16] population that is native

[3:40:17] American so I feel that this

[3:40:18] committee is appropriate to

[3:40:19] address to help us at least get

[3:40:21] the

[3:40:21] conversation started on

[3:40:23] possibly upgrading our storm

[3:40:25] drainage systems most if not

[3:40:28] all of our storm drains are only

[3:40:31] partially concreted

[3:40:33] so when you go to bigger urban

[3:40:34] areas most of the storm drainage

[3:40:36] in the arroyos and like in

[3:40:37] Albuquerque and other areas

[3:40:38] they're fully concrete so they

[3:40:39] don't have erosion problems like

[3:40:41] we see here

[3:40:43] when we get runoff from the

[3:40:45] rains that happened in our area

[3:40:47] it comes right through downtown

[3:40:48] Gallup and we get everything

[3:40:50] that comes along with it the

[3:40:51] silt and the the debris and

[3:40:53] everything but the most of

[3:40:55] our arroyo system through the

[3:40:57] gallup area from the Rio Puerco

[3:40:59] is not fully concreted so we

[3:41:04] are constantly having to do

[3:41:05] maintenance on it and I say we

[3:41:06] very loosely it's the community

[3:41:07] it's the city the county they

[3:41:10] they have to constantly maintain

[3:41:11] these because

[3:41:12] we are inundated with silt

[3:41:14] debris mud and we also run into

[3:41:17] jurisdictional issues from what

[3:41:19] I've been told that where the

[3:41:20] the land is like some of the the

[3:41:23] people that have presented today

[3:41:25] the land is owned by the state

[3:41:26] the land is owned by BNSf or

[3:41:28] other entities and it's hard to

[3:41:31] acquire the proper permission to

[3:41:33] do maintenance on the storm

[3:41:35] drainage system. So I just

[3:41:36] wanted to start the conversation

[3:41:38] here I've I've talked with

[3:41:39] the the city manager about it. I

[3:41:41] haven't had the chance to talk

[3:41:42] with the

[3:41:42] county about it but I figured

[3:41:44] that we could start the the the

[3:41:45] conversation and maybe I can

[3:41:47] work with our my local

[3:41:48] legislators so that we can get

[3:41:50] this maybe get something

[3:41:55] Other than that I would again

[3:41:56] welcome here to gallup. I hope

[3:41:58] you guys enjoy your time

[3:41:59] here. I know it sounds like

[3:42:00] you're going to Aamma. I don't

[3:42:01] know if you're spending the

[3:42:02] night here but if you need any

[3:42:03] recommendations on where to eat

[3:42:04] dinner or something like that we

[3:42:06] are the visitors center for

[3:42:07] gallup. thank you guys for

[3:42:09] coming.

[3:42:11] a thank you Peter and I have

[3:42:13] joanne as

[3:42:17] left already OK Dorisinnali

[3:42:31] Good evening

[3:42:33] I should say good late evening

[3:42:36] welcome to gallup I'm here again

[3:42:39] to listen to you young ones

[3:42:42] thank you so much for coming

[3:42:44] back to gallup. You had a visit

[3:42:46] in haitichie not too long ago a

[3:42:48] lot of our comments were met in

[3:42:51] everything thank you being a

[3:42:53] young ones learning from our

[3:42:55] elders here

[3:42:58] senator

[3:42:59] senator Charlie, I'd like to

[3:43:01] commend you

[3:43:10] I come from a family of veterans

[3:43:13] during this last flooding we had

[3:43:16] down at zunni boots on the

[3:43:18] ground boots on the ground. she

[3:43:21] was there she had her canoe

[3:43:24] it made me so proud to see you

[3:43:26] young ones there

[3:43:29] question you ask thank you

[3:43:30] beautiful questions I have

[3:43:32] experience working at NCI

[3:43:34] soup kitchen

[3:43:39] I'm a devout Catholic but I

[3:43:41] still sin

[3:43:44] I retired from the BIA thirty5

[3:43:46] years of service at the federal

[3:43:48] building

[3:43:50] I'd like to help at the homeless

[3:43:52] shelter and a soup kitchen here

[3:43:55] in gallup. I invited the

[3:43:57] governor on a few occasions to

[3:43:59] come and join me

[3:44:01] my concern at the soup kitchen

[3:44:03] with theha health in the city of

[3:44:06] Gallup and the mayor who gave

[3:44:08] the report

[3:44:09] I did not hear one

[3:44:11] make a comment. I come from a

[3:44:14] family of veterans how they

[3:44:16] helping our veterans how they're

[3:44:18] meeting the veterans75% of the

[3:44:22] clients there are veterans young

[3:44:24] veterans

[3:44:27] and it's sad it's very sad

[3:44:28] they're being ignored

[3:44:30] I come from a family

[3:44:32] of native

[3:44:34] artists

[3:44:38] I want you to take a visit next

[3:44:40] door all of you go walk down the

[3:44:43] streets except Richardson's pond

[3:44:46] you can't pond there but anyway

[3:44:48] keep going

[3:44:51] 75 % of our jewelry outlet here

[3:44:54] in Gallup

[3:44:55] are not owned by native

[3:44:58] Americans

[3:45:00] they're owned by our visitors

[3:45:05] the Arab nation

[3:45:07] a lot of their jewelry you see

[3:45:10] underneath his maiden chi made

[3:45:13] in Korea.

[3:45:15] you want to see the one I'm

[3:45:16] wearing

[3:45:17] it's cheap but you know it still

[3:45:19] works

[3:45:22] I challenge you I challenge you

[3:45:24] to we talk about alcohol tax

[3:45:32] Starting from the east of Gallup

[3:45:32] drive all the way down count the

[3:45:35] dispensaries liquor stores to

[3:45:38] the west side go to the north

[3:45:42] go to the south

[3:45:45] count every one of them please

[3:45:48] alcohol outlets and dispensary

[3:45:52] shops.

[3:45:54] All days dispensary shops here

[3:45:57] in gallup all these alcohol

[3:46:01] the new dispensary shops you see

[3:46:03] in Gallllup are now used to be

[3:46:06] liquor establishments

[3:46:14] That

[3:46:14] information they gave Mrchapatti

[3:46:20] gave here it had75% of

[3:46:21] Navajo's

[3:46:26] here in Gallup who have an

[3:46:29] addiction

[3:46:31] and I've always argued where is

[3:46:34] our alcohol tax co?

[3:46:37] my question today is and I

[3:46:40] invite you to ask this where is

[3:46:44] the dispensary tax going

[3:46:49] Please do that we need to they

[3:46:52] talk about us andnavajos when it

[3:46:55] comes to

[3:46:57] alcoholiclici

[3:47:00] anyway my relatives I call him

[3:47:03] I'm glad to hearpresentative

[3:47:06] Abeta called them our relatives

[3:47:07] it is true we'renavajos

[3:47:09] everybody's related to us they

[3:47:12] are our relatives and when I go

[3:47:14] at the

[3:47:16] homeless in the soup kitchen

[3:47:18] here in Gallup

[3:47:20] I called them in my native

[3:47:22] tongue my brother my sister my

[3:47:25] uncle my grandpa my parents she

[3:47:25] ya sele

[3:47:27] shouldnna

[3:47:31] and their veterans I greet them

[3:47:33] in that way and it feels good

[3:47:36] when I go there because my own

[3:47:38] grandchildren don't call me

[3:47:39] grandma.

[3:47:41] these clients call me from my

[3:47:43] son and I feel wanted needed

[3:47:47] well that's a joke but anyway

[3:47:50] that's all they want to say to

[3:47:51] all of you to please the good

[3:47:54] question to ask about

[3:47:56] NCI to them

[3:47:59] percentage

[3:48:01] discrimination, keep those

[3:48:03] questions coming please keep

[3:48:06] them coming to gallup. Gallup

[3:48:07] needs to hear this

[3:48:10] so that's all I have am I up for

[3:48:13] five minutes or can I go more?

[3:48:13] Yeah

[3:48:15] thank you thank you know you'll

[3:48:18] visit me

[3:48:21] Lary Foster

[3:48:29] good afternoon

[3:48:31] the

[3:48:32] committee here coming from

[3:48:35] different parts of New Mexico

[3:48:37] and I wanted to say a few

[3:48:40] things here some of this was

[3:48:42] stated this morning in the

[3:48:44] presentation by the city of

[3:48:46] Gallup

[3:48:49] their officials a mayor and

[3:48:49] the the city manager

[3:48:52] and the

[3:48:53] mental health department

[3:48:56] of course yeah

[3:49:01] ard ge ant Linibe hadti think so

[3:49:02] my name is Larry Foster

[3:49:04] and my wife is over here maddie

[3:49:08] I'm from the townhouse rockck

[3:49:10] people lankyon in

[3:49:12] adolani manco people

[3:49:16] on the second son of a Navajo

[3:49:18] coat talker

[3:49:20] Here they used to have the code

[3:49:22] talker meetings monthly in here

[3:49:24] in this building

[3:49:26] so

[3:49:26] the perspective of the city

[3:49:29] presentation this mornings

[3:49:32] from their administrative

[3:49:34] some of the data is kind of

[3:49:36] shortcoming

[3:49:37] they might have been using the

[3:49:39] old data or or some missing data

[3:49:42] but it's very well taken but my

[3:49:45] perspective right now is from

[3:49:47] the human rights

[3:49:48] and the civil rights of our the

[3:49:49] indigenous people

[3:49:57] nor cotten nepain that's what

[3:49:57] we're called but the state in

[3:50:00] New Mexico calls usnavajos

[3:50:06] sookota so during their

[3:50:08] rainstorms that we had recently

[3:50:09] we saw a lot of things that

[3:50:12] happened here in Gallup. I think

[3:50:14] that made the city of Gallup

[3:50:15] depressed particularly people

[3:50:18] that live on the north side

[3:50:20] up on 9th Street in Maloney

[3:50:23] the people that lived there they

[3:50:24] were angry

[3:50:26] and then of course they

[3:50:28] were confused about the politics

[3:50:31] of Gallup

[3:50:33] who is in the leadership

[3:50:35] and then of course there

[3:50:38] was a lot of stress

[3:50:41] so

[3:50:41] from that I I gathered there was

[3:50:43] a lot of jealousy among the

[3:50:45] leaders. Most recently we had a

[3:50:48] changeover of the mayor

[3:50:50] so what you're seeing here that

[3:50:52] presented this morning that

[3:50:53] that's a new mayor

[3:50:55] he's involved it's mainly

[3:50:57] administrative

[3:50:59] but I think he's kind of weak

[3:51:01] on human rights, civil rights

[3:51:06] so that's

[3:51:06] directed to the chapters the

[3:51:11] sovereignty issue consolidation

[3:51:21] actct of19781988199 or 208 they

[3:51:21] need to utilize that act over

[3:51:24] here in uhnavajo land

[3:51:28] particularly uhRock Springs,

[3:51:29] Mangnito

[3:51:32] ra cheatuo

[3:51:35] they're gonna build some things

[3:51:36] over here pretty quick and I

[3:51:39] think a lot of the community is

[3:51:40] not well informed on that

[3:51:42] particularly chapters

[3:51:46] so that I don't know why they're

[3:51:47] holding back

[3:51:49] so they shouldn't do that with

[3:51:50] these laws that are in the state

[3:51:52] of New Mexico that are

[3:51:53] implemented 20 years ago

[3:51:57] so along with the increase of

[3:51:59] liquor what was mentioned at

[3:52:01] Speedway

[3:52:03] and then the the the marijuana

[3:52:05] outlets

[3:52:06] that causes a lot of a child

[3:52:10] abandonment what I've seen

[3:52:12] and then they they did

[3:52:14] mention any street birth

[3:52:17] or unsheltered native veterans

[3:52:21] those were the data what they

[3:52:23] had that's what I mean

[3:52:24] misinformation of data

[3:52:28] go over here to westgallllup

[3:52:30] there's a lot of abandoned

[3:52:31] buildings there's graffiti,

[3:52:32] there's potholes our relatives

[3:52:34] are living under the bridges

[3:52:38] Interstate40 tent cities

[3:52:40] and yet deborah Martinez

[3:52:42] mentioned that

[3:52:44] I think that

[3:52:45] my wife and I we go out

[3:52:50] the flea market under the

[3:52:51] culverts yeah they're dangerous

[3:52:53] people are high on fentanyl

[3:52:56] but we try to talk to them we

[3:52:58] try to start a a talking circle

[3:53:01] we went down to the burrito

[3:53:03] project outlet and we weren't

[3:53:06] very welcome because we're

[3:53:07] talking Navajo

[3:53:10] to start talking circle talking

[3:53:12] about the problems in Navajo

[3:53:14] so we let it go

[3:53:17] so I think my recommendation is

[3:53:20] here

[3:53:20] with all these problems that

[3:53:23] one thing I want to mention

[3:53:25] about McKinley County school

[3:53:26] system I think we really need

[3:53:29] to get involved with the

[3:53:29] yasemartinez

[3:53:31] case

[3:53:35] The judge said that a couple of

[3:53:36] months ago the federal funding

[3:53:39] the federal impact aid

[3:53:42] we need to review that a little

[3:53:43] bit more work with the Navajo

[3:53:45] Nation Department of Education

[3:53:46] NDOJ

[3:53:49] that involves it Johnson

[3:53:50] O'malley funds Title 06 and7.

[3:53:55] we don't want to misuse that and

[3:53:57] let it sit somewhere

[3:53:59] that's happening now the lawsuit

[3:54:01] that might come out of that

[3:54:04] so in closing I want to say that

[3:54:07] to improve some of this quality

[3:54:09] of life, my recommendation is

[3:54:11] we need to get a grant rider

[3:54:13] over there at the mayor's office

[3:54:16] let's help the mayor

[3:54:18] see your manager

[3:54:20] and get an indigenous task force

[3:54:23] in order. There's people like

[3:54:25] myself that

[3:54:26] I wanted to to help the city of

[3:54:29] Gallup

[3:54:31] I've been here for my wife and I

[3:54:33] over30 years

[3:54:34] and then to review some of the

[3:54:37] contracts

[3:54:39] I don't know who takes care of

[3:54:40] the contracts over there it

[3:54:41] sounds like it's just one person

[3:54:46] so this is all about the

[3:54:47] public health human rights civil

[3:54:51] rights

[3:54:53] so

[3:54:53] I mentioned to the city manager

[3:54:55] we need to develop MOs with

[3:54:59] others M will you try to

[3:54:59] understand

[3:55:00] thenavajo

[3:55:02] nation and their departments

[3:55:06] health

[3:55:07] mental health how the DOJ

[3:55:10] works over there

[3:55:13] likewise with the surrounding

[3:55:14] tribes Aama and Naguna

[3:55:16] were all part of this area

[3:55:19] this circle so thank you for

[3:55:21] your time

[3:55:26] maddie Foster did you want to

[3:55:44] Colin you're presenting later

[3:55:46] what did you want to do public

[3:55:47] comment or are you

[3:55:52] good

[3:56:11] Actually I signed up I thought

[3:56:14] it was sign in sheet but

[3:56:16] actually I guess I got called

[3:56:18] out called in called up here but

[3:56:21] anyway

[3:56:23] my name is maddie Foster and my

[3:56:26] client is with ondo to by the

[3:56:27] machine touchy nationalinando

[3:56:29] shin the shi cheong a

[3:56:30] a

[3:56:34] I'm a lady here and my husband

[3:56:40] he's said th30 years actually

[3:56:42] it's50 years

[3:56:43] so

[3:56:43] we've beenga was a girlup we

[3:56:47] live and he was a galla with our

[3:56:48] children and our grandchildren

[3:56:50] and they all go to school at

[3:56:53] Gallup McKinney County School.

[3:56:55] so

[3:56:55] I guess what my complaint would

[3:57:01] be

[3:57:02] I lived in Galla for most of my

[3:57:05] years and I see what's going on

[3:57:10] and

[3:57:11] it's heartbreaking as a mother

[3:57:15] as a ali and and thennavajo lady

[3:57:18] that you see a relatives on

[3:57:22] the streets

[3:57:26] they all need help

[3:57:28] I seen a little girl she was

[3:57:30] about 9 or10 years old on the

[3:57:32] street and I thought what is she

[3:57:35] doing here? Where's her parents

[3:57:39] and there she went

[3:57:40] following this one person older

[3:57:45] man

[3:57:46] and he does heartbreaking so us

[3:57:53] ladies as woman native women we

[3:57:55] need to do a lot of

[3:57:56] work

[3:58:00] like they're saying outreach my

[3:58:03] husband and I are both retired

[3:58:05] our work atingate High School

[3:58:07] for48 years and eight months

[3:58:09] with the students and

[3:58:12] my husband worked at PhS forth38

[3:58:15] years so we're both retired and

[3:58:17] we do a lot of volunteer work

[3:58:20] no right now we don't get paid

[3:58:23] we just go out there who needs

[3:58:25] help or maybe one of the

[3:58:27] projects needs help or somebody

[3:58:30] that needs food

[3:58:32] so this takes most of our time

[3:58:34] and whoever

[3:58:37] we go

[3:58:43] we just offer our help

[3:58:47] on the west side too there's a

[3:58:49] lot of graffiti and

[3:58:52] like my husband said there's a

[3:58:54] lot of buildings or boarded up

[3:58:58] need to bring more business or

[3:59:00] clean it up

[3:59:03] and

[3:59:04] even at Gallllup High School we

[3:59:07] mention it to the superintendent

[3:59:09] that left at the pavement

[3:59:12] needs to be paved

[3:59:15] and

[3:59:16] the other day I think one of

[3:59:20] they got excused early because

[3:59:21] the air conditioner or something

[3:59:25] that wasn't working so we gallup

[3:59:27] high needs a new school

[3:59:31] buildingallllup High School and

[3:59:35] we need a lot of parents

[3:59:37] involvement that's what we're

[3:59:39] lacking too

[3:59:41] thats we try to represent a lot

[3:59:43] of native students atallllup

[3:59:45] high school where they mean

[3:59:48] being mistreated

[3:59:50] and we go to to go to the school

[3:59:52] board meeting and try to voice

[3:59:54] our opinion but they always call

[3:59:57] the security saying there comes

[3:59:59] a fosters better call the

[3:59:59] security so

[4:00:05] ashley we're trying to help help

[4:00:06] the students or represent them

[4:00:10] and also the JOM money too is to

[4:00:13] sit in atonderrock and where we

[4:00:18] used to sponsored nativist

[4:00:23] culture at Gallllup High

[4:00:23] School

[4:00:24] and at tourpin

[4:00:28] that that's not happening

[4:00:30] so when you are jail and money

[4:00:33] back to the school and we talked

[4:00:37] with Bo Nagrin

[4:00:38] that

[4:00:41] this is how our native students

[4:00:43] are getting treated amongcinney

[4:00:45] County School. he was going to

[4:00:47] set up our office here and all

[4:00:50] our native unsheltered

[4:00:52] relatives to on the streets I'll

[4:00:56] work with them it never happened

[4:00:58] so when he was campaigning again

[4:01:00] at the flea market approached

[4:01:02] him. where's the office for you

[4:01:06] promised us when you were

[4:01:07] campaigning I'll work on it. No

[4:01:10] your term is over

[4:01:12] so we approached the new

[4:01:15] administration Justin Jones and

[4:01:18] he said he's gonna work on it

[4:01:21] with the gallupmcckinley County

[4:01:22] School

[4:01:24] why our natives are getting

[4:01:26] discriminated

[4:01:28] and

[4:01:28] with the native unsheltered

[4:01:32] relatives too we need we need

[4:01:35] help we told him

[4:01:38] so this and his campaign

[4:01:40] hopefully he pays a lot of

[4:01:43] attention to what everybody is

[4:01:46] asking him to do for his new

[4:01:48] administration so that's all I

[4:01:52] have to offer thank you

[4:01:55] you haveella Wilson

[4:02:01] president would you like to come

[4:02:04] up

[4:02:23] Good afternoon

[4:02:26] the audition and I madam

[4:02:26] chairir

[4:02:29] in an affairs committee each and

[4:02:31] every one of you legislators

[4:02:33] representatives senators I

[4:02:35] appreciate your time you're

[4:02:36] spending here in Gallup. My name

[4:02:38] is Elvispazzilli. I am

[4:02:40] currently the tragic chapter

[4:02:41] president. This is my first term

[4:02:44] as the president for our chapter

[4:02:48] and

[4:02:48] I'm here today not I wasn't

[4:02:50] expecting to make a report or

[4:02:53] just give you an update on what

[4:02:54] we're doing but I don't mind you

[4:02:55] know it's not a

[4:02:56] not a biggie for me because I

[4:02:58] present it to you before you

[4:03:00] were in in Tohatchie

[4:03:01] earlier this year last late last

[4:03:05] year so madam chair again the

[4:03:07] committee I appreciate the time

[4:03:09] that we have here this morning

[4:03:10] and this afternoon. I wanted

[4:03:12] just to update you real briefly

[4:03:14] on what we're doing as a chapter

[4:03:16] I inherited I would say 20

[4:03:20] to30 depending ongoing projects

[4:03:23] coming from the previous

[4:03:24] leadership

[4:03:26] and that is going forward for

[4:03:28] our chapter and we've added

[4:03:31] probably 20 more projects to our

[4:03:34] chapter and pending and you know

[4:03:34] we're

[4:03:37] we're prioritizing what we have

[4:03:40] meaning our our ICIP

[4:03:42] infrastructure capital

[4:03:44] improvement plan we have our top

[4:03:46] priority listing for that that's

[4:03:48] been ongoing for for several

[4:03:50] years I just wanted update

[4:03:53] you on that real briefly our

[4:03:55] priority projects for Tahachi is

[4:03:56] our first responders safety

[4:03:58] complex Our second one is our

[4:04:01] warehouses our chapter warehouse

[4:04:03] our third is our highway491

[4:04:05] lighting

[4:04:06] we are fortunate and blessed

[4:04:08] to have been awarded50,000 from

[4:04:11] our our senator and

[4:04:13] representatives for this year

[4:04:16] for our safety complex and that

[4:04:18] money will be expended we

[4:04:21] were we'd been expending I'd

[4:04:25] say close to4 million over the

[4:04:27] past three or four years so far

[4:04:29] from capital outlay funding for

[4:04:31] our cap safety complex so we

[4:04:33] are looking for for more money

[4:04:35] we've

[4:04:36] applied again for our TI funds

[4:04:39] we're again we're gonna we're

[4:04:41] we have applied and we are going

[4:04:42] to apply again just a brief

[4:04:45] update on that on our priority

[4:04:46] projects and like I said we do

[4:04:48] have several other projects that

[4:04:50] are ongoing for our chapter and

[4:04:53] there is a lot of work there is

[4:04:54] a lot of work we're working

[4:04:56] diligently with our naval Nation

[4:04:57] community development department

[4:05:00] we're working with the state of

[4:05:02] New Mexico we're working with

[4:05:04] other entities locally

[4:05:07] in the county in regards

[4:05:09] to other added projects that are

[4:05:11] new this year for us we have our

[4:05:13] red willow farm solar project

[4:05:15] we've added that to our ICIP

[4:05:17] listing as you all are aware

[4:05:19] I I have a late mom that was

[4:05:21] our red willow farm

[4:05:23] president for for many many

[4:05:26] years and because of that we've

[4:05:29] we've continued to her success

[4:05:30] with that and we've continued

[4:05:32] the the dreams and and work that

[4:05:34] she wanted so we've added

[4:05:36] that to our our capital outlay

[4:05:38] priority list for re willow

[4:05:40] as a matter of fact that's where

[4:05:41] I was just coming from this

[4:05:42] morning we we got a lot of water

[4:05:45] at our farm and we cannot get

[4:05:46] into our farm because of because

[4:05:49] of the floods and the and the

[4:05:50] muddy roads and the access to

[4:05:51] our farm but we were able to get

[4:05:53] in because the past few days we

[4:05:55] had some a little bit warmer

[4:05:57] weather so we could get into the

[4:06:03] the the farm today again

[4:06:04] ourabul outlay projects or tip

[4:06:05] projects that we've appli

[4:06:06] ed for I just wanted to mention

[4:06:08] that we also got money for our

[4:06:11] our first responder safety

[4:06:13] complex of4 million dollars from

[4:06:16] Tiff that was also added to that

[4:06:18] so so that was a success there.

[4:06:20] I wanted to congratulate and

[4:06:23] commend the legislators and

[4:06:25] all of you that are involved in

[4:06:26] that success and he haii we

[4:06:28] appreciate that we want to

[4:06:30] continue with lobbying and

[4:06:32] advocating with you all to help

[4:06:34] us with that so we can continue

[4:06:35] building

[4:06:36] this very important safety

[4:06:38] complex it's very much needed

[4:06:40] for our chapter. Highway491 is a

[4:06:43] very dangerous highway. it's a

[4:06:45] very busy highway and we are

[4:06:47] serving also district14 chapters

[4:06:49] which is5 chapters in in the

[4:06:52] local area so that's very

[4:06:54] important I hope and I I I

[4:06:56] pray that we will be

[4:06:59] successful again in applying for

[4:07:01] more funding for for our

[4:07:03] safety complex building we

[4:07:06] will be

[4:07:06] applying again this year or

[4:07:07] actually next year for for that

[4:07:09] funding area so we appreciate

[4:07:11] that so much for that so also

[4:07:13] want to congratulate another

[4:07:15] project on we were talking about

[4:07:17] it earlier theelville Gallup

[4:07:19] water supply the the the project

[4:07:21] there we're we're working

[4:07:23] with a shortfall dollars of3.5

[4:07:25] million dollars with Mexican

[4:07:27] spprings chapter we were

[4:07:29] successful with they were

[4:07:32] successful actually cause

[4:07:33] Mexican sppring applied for tI

[4:07:35] money and they were

[4:07:36] successful in landing4 million

[4:07:39] dollars of the3.5 that was

[4:07:40] shortfall so they were we were

[4:07:42] awarded as a as a combined

[4:07:44] project to get this project done

[4:07:46] so it's it's ongoing now we're

[4:07:49] blessed that we had that money

[4:07:50] approved for us now it's it's

[4:07:53] up to the contractors to move

[4:07:55] those dollars forward so we can

[4:07:57] get that done that's a part of

[4:07:58] the whole project

[4:08:02] funding that that that this is

[4:08:03] needed so we can serve our to

[4:08:03] hachi Mexican spprings

[4:08:06] area and that's going to happen

[4:08:08] that is going to happen and

[4:08:10] there's the plan and design is

[4:08:10] already complete it's done and

[4:08:12] we're ready to go this money

[4:08:14] that we got is for construction

[4:08:15] so we'd be moving on that as

[4:08:17] soon as possible. Saer Miller is

[4:08:19] the contractor subcontractor

[4:08:21] that we're working with

[4:08:22] Navoation so they're helping us

[4:08:23] with that and working along with

[4:08:25] that project for us so we're

[4:08:28] we're ongoing with that is is as

[4:08:29] as we move forward for serving

[4:08:31] our communitiesal deen is also

[4:08:34] on that listing for for funding

[4:08:36] as well

[4:08:36] and that lateral project as well

[4:08:39] as other other communities that

[4:08:40] are east of Gallup in that

[4:08:42] eastern agency area so we're

[4:08:44] working diligently with everyone

[4:08:46] out there so you know we've been

[4:08:48] successful so far with

[4:08:49] funding this project for our

[4:08:51] community so thank you very much

[4:08:53] to legislators for all of that

[4:08:55] and what you do and I just kind

[4:08:57] of put together some notes that

[4:08:58] I have I'd like to ask the

[4:09:00] legislators if you could help us

[4:09:02] possibly with the warehouse

[4:09:03] funding for our chapter we're

[4:09:04] 85,000

[4:09:07] 0 shortfall highway light we

[4:09:09] have3.5 million dollars that

[4:09:10] we're working with now theation

[4:09:11] Department of Transportation so

[4:09:13] we have some matching funding

[4:09:15] monies there so we probably will

[4:09:18] be able to have at least a

[4:09:19] million dollars because the

[4:09:21] navigation department of

[4:09:21] transportation has awarded

[4:09:23] through the naviation council

[4:09:26] monies for each of the agencies

[4:09:29] and legnaval Nation co agency

[4:09:31] areas districts for Monday and

[4:09:34] there so we'll we'll be glad to

[4:09:35] have that

[4:09:35] as a part of our contribution

[4:09:37] towards that and again this is

[4:09:39] something that we're doing and

[4:09:41] I'm just kind of going on as

[4:09:43] best as I can and do do what I

[4:09:45] need to do with what we were

[4:09:46] doing inuahachie

[4:09:48] I want to also thank theal

[4:09:49] McKinney County schools for the

[4:09:50] new high school the new high

[4:09:53] school that we now have so as

[4:09:54] you can see we're moving forward

[4:09:56] with a lot of projects that are

[4:09:57] going on in Tohatchie and we

[4:10:00] want to thank them for all

[4:10:01] the work they've done over the

[4:10:02] many many years we just had our

[4:10:04] groundbreaking in schools in

[4:10:06] session now all the kids are

[4:10:07] enjoying their new school now

[4:10:09] and of course they cannot wait

[4:10:11] for basketball season. we have a

[4:10:12] new basketball gymnasium that

[4:10:14] we're gonna be occupying and

[4:10:16] we're gonna be cheering on

[4:10:17] you know our opponents and

[4:10:19] everyone else there when they

[4:10:20] come to Johatchi, home of the

[4:10:22] cougars and we're gonna be

[4:10:23] we're gonna be yelling out we

[4:10:25] got spirit how about you? you

[4:10:28] know that's gonna happen right

[4:10:29] on so again we appreciate that

[4:10:32] other things that are going

[4:10:34] on that's sad to say again

[4:10:37] ourtahaji seniorenter has been

[4:10:37] closed for the last couple of

[4:10:40] weeks or so3 weeks because of

[4:10:43] our hy their hibc system their

[4:10:44] highback system has is not

[4:10:45] functioning and it's not just to

[4:10:48] haji it's a majority of naval

[4:10:49] nation where we're having that

[4:10:50] issue the expending the

[4:10:53] expanding the expenditure

[4:10:54] process of getting these money

[4:10:55] spent is a problem with our

[4:10:57] navajo nation and that's been a

[4:10:59] long long ongoing process so the

[4:11:01] senior senator is dealing with

[4:11:03] that we as officials are

[4:11:04] supporting them they under they

[4:11:06] are under doltech with Navo

[4:11:08] Nation so we are supporting

[4:11:10] their effort to get this done. I

[4:11:12] just found out a week ago that

[4:11:14] is the high ec system works at

[4:11:15] the senior center it's just some

[4:11:16] d

[4:11:18] uck wood I need some upgrades

[4:11:19] that's why there's no there's no

[4:11:20] functioning air flow through the

[4:11:22] through the building itself so

[4:11:24] we're working again with

[4:11:26] something there so we need

[4:11:27] something to do with that

[4:11:28] system. these systems and these

[4:11:30] senior center centers have been

[4:11:31] outdated for so many years so

[4:11:35] if you have senior centers in on

[4:11:36] on in your area as legislators

[4:11:38] you need to look more closely at

[4:11:40] what's going on with their

[4:11:41] facility it's a bad situation

[4:11:43] because they're very full

[4:11:45] they're much outdated

[4:11:46] infrastructure

[4:11:48] so anyway that's something that

[4:11:49] we're dealing with now and

[4:11:51] and we're we're soon to have

[4:11:53] that open and guarantee that so

[4:11:55] the other the other commanding

[4:11:57] commanding information or

[4:11:58] comment I want to make is the

[4:12:01] MexicodlT thank you for your new

[4:12:02] paving that you're doing now

[4:12:04] through our community of

[4:12:07] Tehatchie M marker16 through

[4:12:07] mile marker 25 we lobbied for

[4:12:10] that advocated for that here

[4:12:11] about a month ago or so with DOT

[4:12:15] we asked Trujillo and we

[4:12:17] asked Lis

[4:12:17] a Vega why are you guys not

[4:12:19] still why you guys are notpa

[4:12:21] that north lane, the double

[4:12:23] lanes and a couple weeks three

[4:12:24] weeks later they got on it. so

[4:12:26] thank you for those guys there

[4:12:27] was money for it thanks to

[4:12:30] our other local leadership that

[4:12:31] followed us through that we

[4:12:33] did meet withrujillo in Santa Fe

[4:12:35] and on teleconference call and

[4:12:37] we we got a blessing after that

[4:12:39] and thank you for that we really

[4:12:40] need that highway repaved and

[4:12:42] it's happening now so that

[4:12:44] should be completed I think

[4:12:45] probably the end of this week or

[4:12:46] within the next several

[4:12:47] days. Again there's so much

[4:12:50] blessed thank you for that we

[4:12:51] have now again I hope the

[4:12:54] speeders don't speed too much

[4:12:56] more but we don't we don't want

[4:12:58] that you know we'd like to

[4:12:58] control that so that may be

[4:13:00] another issue. Again there's

[4:13:02] another part that I want to

[4:13:03] mention that wement as a chapter

[4:13:05] advocating with other leadership

[4:13:07] before was the Edward O Plumber

[4:13:09] interchange 264 and highway491.

[4:13:13] We need those lights back on. We

[4:13:16] need those lights back on. We

[4:13:18] ' ve complained about that. why

[4:13:19] they have not get to that we've

[4:13:21] talked to the county manager

[4:13:22] about this they've been

[4:13:24] pointing fingers at each other

[4:13:26] in the Mexico DlT counties

[4:13:28] responsible and so forth so

[4:13:31] that's a very big danger zone

[4:13:33] guarantee you that because I go

[4:13:34] through that day and night and

[4:13:36] it's a problem so we need to get

[4:13:38] that fixed leadership so

[4:13:40] with that I have don't I

[4:13:42] don't have any other much more

[4:13:44] else to say but last but not

[4:13:47] least

[4:13:48] our school beacon flashing

[4:13:49] lights in Tohachi at our main

[4:13:52] school exit to our high school

[4:13:54] in our elementary school we need

[4:13:56] those bea and flash of lights

[4:13:59] install we've complained to the

[4:14:00] county for the past year or so

[4:14:02] it has not been done. Anthony

[4:14:05] demis, if you're listening, I

[4:14:07] hope you can hear us so we we

[4:14:10] need your help. The school is

[4:14:12] not responsible for it. they

[4:14:14] pointed to the county they

[4:14:14] pointed to MexicodlT

[4:14:18] everyone just does not want

[4:14:19] to put their hand on it even

[4:14:22] nowvonation DlT but leadership I

[4:14:23] hope we can get some word from

[4:14:24] you to get some somebody going

[4:14:26] we need that done it's very

[4:14:28] important we need that done a

[4:14:30] lot of semi trucks go through

[4:14:32] our areas daily it's a very

[4:14:34] danger zone. we need your help

[4:14:36] we need your help with that. So

[4:14:38] leadership, thank you very much

[4:14:40] for your time and again there's

[4:14:42] other projects that are ongoing

[4:14:44] now with us in our community

[4:14:47] rule dressing has been

[4:14:47] completed that's been ongoing

[4:14:49] for many years we have our rule

[4:14:51] of addressing project done thank

[4:14:52] you to ARPA funds from the

[4:14:55] federal government funds that we

[4:14:56] got we still need to finish that

[4:14:58] it's been done we just need

[4:14:59] volunteers I have how many of

[4:15:01] you here12,20,1f of you we need

[4:15:04] help installing our signs and

[4:15:06] our street signs they're done

[4:15:07] they're ready to go we just

[4:15:09] need to we just needed to get

[4:15:10] some cooler weather and that's

[4:15:12] happened but we're getting rain

[4:15:13] so we can't get out there to do

[4:15:15] that right now but we will move

[4:15:16] forward on that so

[4:15:17] thank you very much and I

[4:15:19] appreciate your time. thank you

[4:15:21] madam chairir committee thank

[4:15:23] you for coming to what is it

[4:15:26] gallup is did I hear Indian

[4:15:28] capital of the world some time

[4:15:28] ago

[4:15:31] I don't know how true that is

[4:15:32] but I just want to say tohachi

[4:15:34] is where I'm from welcome to

[4:15:36] Tahachi home of the cougars

[4:15:37] thank you very much

[4:15:38] appreciateciate it

[4:15:42] ok we will move to item number4

[4:15:44] with committee members

[4:15:50] And I did see chance came in

[4:15:52] hello come on that

[4:15:54] and you have someone with you or

[4:15:56] is it just you?

[4:15:58] they can join you just as long

[4:15:59] as they introduce themselves.

[4:16:01] Oh neararley

[4:16:04] excellent we feel I wonder if

[4:16:05] he's nervous sit up

[4:16:12] So is he overseeing you are you

[4:16:14] overseeing him? I'm just kidding

[4:16:18] do we have an extra

[4:16:25] don't have don't have anything

[4:16:31] don't have any anything I'll

[4:16:33] check my email but I didn't this

[4:16:34] morning

[4:16:48] we were at a different location

[4:16:49] and this was one of our

[4:16:52] I think they're gonna so we'll

[4:16:54] take a five minute break here

[4:16:56] before we convene no it's ok

[4:16:59] if it helps you move through the

[4:17:01] rep representation that'll help

[4:17:02] us

[4:17:03] so we don't have so many

[4:17:05] questions if we can read

[4:17:07] or if he can just get a laptop

[4:17:16] to him

[4:17:19] Nnicole if he can just get a

[4:17:19] laptop oh he has his laptop you

[4:17:20] can't read off your

[4:17:21] yeah

[4:17:26] ok give them the internet it's

[4:17:27] internet password

[4:24:18] members that you may begin

[4:24:26] Testing madam chair and members

[4:24:29] of the committee we just thank

[4:24:30] you for inviting us up here to

[4:24:32] talk with you guys about modular

[4:24:34] housing. I'm Chance Mitchell. my

[4:24:37] dad here is Jim Mitchell and

[4:24:39] over the last three or four

[4:24:40] years we've spent our lives

[4:24:44] sort of renovating a420,000

[4:24:47] square foot bus plant that we've

[4:24:49] now converted into a modular

[4:24:51] homeme factory providing

[4:24:53] homes for areas all across

[4:24:55] the state and

[4:24:56] so my my goal the reason that we

[4:24:59] came up here is I I would just

[4:25:02] like to communicate what a good

[4:25:04] and what a permanent solution

[4:25:05] that modular housing can be for

[4:25:07] rural and tribal communities.

[4:25:12] So little presentation overview

[4:25:15] so originally we'd have a set

[4:25:16] video just a video of us

[4:25:18] actually setting the homes but

[4:25:20] I think I'm having some

[4:25:22] technical difficulties so we'll

[4:25:24] we'll have to do without that

[4:25:25] but I'm going to talk about

[4:25:28] modular housing from a general

[4:25:30] point of view. First, what are

[4:25:33] the benefits? what is it and

[4:25:35] after that I'm going to talk

[4:25:36] about fortified our company and

[4:25:38] sort of how we stand out how we

[4:25:40] can just help

[4:25:42] communities around New Mexico.

[4:25:47] that video

[4:25:49] I did include this picture

[4:25:50] though so this is a project

[4:25:52] that we have

[4:25:53] just completed in Redriver

[4:25:58] this summer. it from the time we

[4:25:59] went under contract with the

[4:26:00] town of Red River to the time we

[4:26:02] actually got the homes on the

[4:26:03] ground was 2 months so and I

[4:26:05] think that's pretty unheard of

[4:26:07] when you're working with

[4:26:08] local governments and whatnot

[4:26:10] but I think it is a testament

[4:26:12] to the the speed of our building

[4:26:16] processes so yes the the

[4:26:19] community up there is using

[4:26:20] these town homemes for workforce

[4:26:22] housing

[4:26:25] why modular

[4:26:27] so

[4:26:27] let's just talk about the

[4:26:29] quality of modular first so we

[4:26:32] build everything in an enclosed

[4:26:34] environment that in itself we

[4:26:36] have a roof over our heads while

[4:26:38] while we build our homes so we

[4:26:40] are not dealing with weather

[4:26:42] delays or weather damage to our

[4:26:44] materials we're not dealing with

[4:26:46] any theft or any of the

[4:26:49] issues that would come with just

[4:26:52] the elements. I mean if you

[4:26:54] think that you can get your cut

[4:26:56] your angle as pre

[4:26:57] ci se as I can when I'm cutting

[4:26:59] in a building and you're out

[4:27:00] there in the rain and the mud

[4:27:01] and the wind. I'll take you up

[4:27:02] on that challenge all day long.

[4:27:06] streamlined processes we we

[4:27:06] build everything ination we have

[4:27:08] our materials right there we're

[4:27:10] not running to Home Depot 20

[4:27:11] times a day like a normal site

[4:27:14] builder would

[4:27:15] and we're able to build a lot

[4:27:18] faster because of our

[4:27:20] streamlined processes and a lot

[4:27:21] better our people do the same

[4:27:23] thing every day in the same

[4:27:25] place. The the quality becomes

[4:27:27] very good

[4:27:28] engineered for durability. so

[4:27:31] one of the differences between

[4:27:33] modular and like a manufactured

[4:27:36] or a mobile home is we build to

[4:27:39] the IRc the International

[4:27:41] residential code it's the same

[4:27:43] code that a regular site builder

[4:27:44] would build to

[4:27:45] whereas a mobile manufactured

[4:27:49] home they build to theU code

[4:27:53] which think section 8 housing

[4:27:54] it's a code created for just

[4:27:57] purely affordable you know this

[4:27:59] is these are homes that have a

[4:28:00] shelf life they deteriorate

[4:28:02] eventually you're gonna have to

[4:28:04] replace it. there's a place for

[4:28:05] it in the market but it's not a

[4:28:06] permanent solution

[4:28:07] these are engineered at

[4:28:11] the same code that a site

[4:28:12] builder would use except we

[4:28:14] actually overengineer them

[4:28:15] because we do put them on a

[4:28:16] truck, lift them up with a crane

[4:28:18] and so they they are very very

[4:28:20] sturdy homes

[4:28:21] faster build timeline I sort

[4:28:25] of talked about that with the

[4:28:29] streamlined processes I guess

[4:28:30] but

[4:28:31] right now in our factory we

[4:28:34] complete a home in 22 business

[4:28:37] days so very quick build

[4:28:40] timeline in the factory during

[4:28:42] those 22 business days we're out

[4:28:43] there on site doing the

[4:28:44] foundation and so the

[4:28:47] foundation's ready when the home

[4:28:48] comes out. you got about four

[4:28:50] weeks of stitch up after the

[4:28:51] home actually comes out gets set

[4:28:53] on the foundation and so you're

[4:28:55] looking at a two month to three

[4:28:57] months at the most build

[4:28:59] timeline when you

[4:29:01] go with one of

[4:29:02] a standard typical home that we

[4:29:05] built and you know compared to a

[4:29:07] site built you're you're looking

[4:29:09] at six months at the minimum,

[4:29:11] especially in one of these rural

[4:29:12] communities. I mean you're

[4:29:13] probably looking at closer to a

[4:29:14] year or more than a year

[4:29:15] so

[4:29:18] we we save a lot of time and we

[4:29:22] also save people a lot of money

[4:29:24] so

[4:29:25] affordability I just did this

[4:29:27] little mockup estimate if we

[4:29:31] were just going to go

[4:29:33] to Ta and build a home. really

[4:29:34] we could do this in any rural

[4:29:36] community. I chose Taos because

[4:29:38] it's people can't build there

[4:29:40] for less than400 a foot right

[4:29:41] now it's the housing market has

[4:29:43] just gotten crazy. minus the

[4:29:46] land this would be our cost if

[4:29:48] we were to go up there and build

[4:29:49] a home between the foundation

[4:29:52] of everything to get the home

[4:29:53] actually turnkey we're looking

[4:29:56] at160 bucks a foot to build it

[4:29:58] whereas yeah intas site builders

[4:30:00] can't build a home for less

[4:30:01] than400 buck

[4:30:03] a foot frankly so

[4:30:04] when I say this is a a good

[4:30:07] solution for our rural

[4:30:08] communities. I I really do mean

[4:30:10] it.

[4:30:15] greener

[4:30:15] I I know that we are facing so

[4:30:18] many issues and topics around

[4:30:22] just the issue of waste so

[4:30:25] modular with our streamlined

[4:30:26] processes with our lack of

[4:30:28] weather damage theft, you name

[4:30:31] it. we use about30% of the waste

[4:30:34] that a site builder would use

[4:30:36] for building a home so think

[4:30:37] we would use like a55 gallon

[4:30:40] dumpster loaded up per home

[4:30:44] whereas a site builder would

[4:30:45] probably use two semi trucks

[4:30:46] of waste so it's a very green

[4:30:56] y fortify it so now we'll talk

[4:30:57] about fortified structures our

[4:30:59] actual company what sets us

[4:31:00] apart and how we can help

[4:31:02] so we are very vertical

[4:31:04] vertically integrated we

[4:31:07] originally started as a civil

[4:31:09] construction company. my

[4:31:11] parents started JNhervices about

[4:31:14] 30 years ago and have run it in

[4:31:17] southeast New Mexico building

[4:31:18] bridges highways since then

[4:31:22] have acquired an asphalt plant a

[4:31:23] concrete plant and so when

[4:31:26] somebody hires us we don't just

[4:31:28] build the houses we actually do

[4:31:30] the civil engineering we do the

[4:31:31] dirt work and everything

[4:31:33] because we see a lot of these

[4:31:34] municipalities when they get

[4:31:36] funding from the state the first

[4:31:37] place they'll go is they'll hire

[4:31:39] a super expensive engineer spent

[4:31:41] half the project money on an

[4:31:42] engineer that engineers the

[4:31:43] project to be way more expensive

[4:31:45] than anything they can afford

[4:31:47] and then the project doesn't get

[4:31:48] done and so when you're able to

[4:31:50] keep this whole project in house

[4:31:53] you know we're able to

[4:31:55] understand the customers values

[4:31:57] the end goals and from start to

[4:31:59] finish we're able to stay on the

[4:32:01] same page with everybody

[4:32:02] because we're we handle the

[4:32:05] whole process so yeah we from

[4:32:08] the civil engineering to the

[4:32:10] actual homes being turnkey

[4:32:13] ready. we handle that

[4:32:17] we don't

[4:32:18] let me just say we don't have to

[4:32:19] handle that if a municipality or

[4:32:22] somebody was to say hey we have

[4:32:24] these lots already developed you

[4:32:25] know that's not something that

[4:32:26] we have to do but we we have

[4:32:29] capacity to take care of the

[4:32:30] whole thing

[4:32:34] unique business structure so

[4:32:35] because all the factory because

[4:32:38] the factory does all the heavy

[4:32:39] lifting by building the homes in

[4:32:41] the

[4:32:41] plant we are able to qualify a

[4:32:46] lot of contractors in local

[4:32:48] areas that we're building that

[4:32:49] maybe wouldn't be able to handle

[4:32:52] all the capacity if they were

[4:32:54] just to build100% of the homes.

[4:32:57] so when we go to a different

[4:33:00] community our goal is to utilize

[4:33:02] the local

[4:33:03] workforce boost the economy,

[4:33:07] buy the new homes and also buy

[4:33:08] the labor because yeah the the

[4:33:11] amount of work that gets done on

[4:33:14] site is relatively easy.

[4:33:17] so

[4:33:18] there you go and yeah we're

[4:33:20] we're

[4:33:21] constantly scaling across the

[4:33:24] southwest by we have

[4:33:27] customers who are buying

[4:33:29] licenses to their areas I

[4:33:32] guess and they're just buying

[4:33:34] our home straight out of the

[4:33:34] factory and putting their homes

[4:33:37] in their local areas and

[4:33:39] that's sort of how we've been

[4:33:41] scaling and serving communities

[4:33:43] far fromRoswell.

[4:33:47] so

[4:33:48] here's a bit of our current

[4:33:49] speed incompa capacity right now

[4:33:53] so our current production is two

[4:33:55] modules a day

[4:33:56] we we work in terms of modules

[4:33:58] because a home can be one

[4:34:00] module, a home could be10

[4:34:01] modules it really just depends

[4:34:02] on the home. So think the

[4:34:04] average home is about 2 modules

[4:34:06] so we're building a house a day

[4:34:08] right now out of the factory.

[4:34:10] Our goal by the end of 227 is to

[4:34:12] double that and then once we

[4:34:15] double that we'll open up our

[4:34:16] second production line through

[4:34:18] the plant because really only

[4:34:21] using30 or40% of it right now

[4:34:22] the actual square footage in our

[4:34:24] factory

[4:34:28] so that that's a little bit

[4:34:29] about us. I look forward to any

[4:34:30] questions that you guys have

[4:34:33] that's our director of sales

[4:34:35] contact info but I also have

[4:34:37] business cards that I'd love to

[4:34:38] hand out with with mine as well

[4:34:43] committee memberspresentative

[4:34:43] Abela

[4:34:46] thank you chair. thank you Mr.

[4:34:47] Mitchell for your

[4:34:48] presentation and for also

[4:34:50] bringing your father a quick

[4:34:52] question

[4:34:53] quick question well multiple

[4:34:57] questions the Red river

[4:34:58] structure that you showed up

[4:35:00] here can you give me a little

[4:35:01] bit of the details about what it

[4:35:02] was and how much that costs

[4:35:06] madam Chairpresentative, thank

[4:35:08] you for asking that question.

[4:35:10] Yes so the

[4:35:11] town of Red River approached us

[4:35:14] they needed workforce housing

[4:35:16] they have

[4:35:16] the same issue that a lot of

[4:35:18] these rural, especially these

[4:35:21] mountain towns have where the

[4:35:22] real estate has become so

[4:35:23] expensive that the people who

[4:35:24] actually run the town can't live

[4:35:26] there.

[4:35:27] so

[4:35:28] we came in

[4:35:30] we completed the homes and set

[4:35:32] the homes within two months and

[4:35:33] then we we actually did the site

[4:35:37] work after that

[4:35:41] now

[4:35:41] I I believe the cost was around

[4:35:44] 250 b a square foot. that's

[4:35:46] probably not the exact number

[4:35:48] but that's that's where we were

[4:35:50] to to build that turnkey whereas

[4:35:56] yeah do you have anything else

[4:35:57] to say? Yeah I could speak to

[4:35:59] that a little bit so each one of

[4:36:00] those units is1280 square feet

[4:36:03] there

[4:36:05] they were right around 250 a

[4:36:05] foot with the

[4:36:07] the government procurement side

[4:36:11] because everything in the

[4:36:13] factory we were able to not pay

[4:36:15] the wage rate decision but

[4:36:16] everything on site had to be bid

[4:36:18] as wage rate decision. we

[4:36:21] helped them with all the

[4:36:21] engineering and it also being

[4:36:25] in Red River had to be zonefi

[4:36:28] insulated and approved for that

[4:36:30] so that added to the cost to

[4:36:32] some degree their quote for this

[4:36:34] project was near50000 of the

[4:36:39] so came in at half that yeah we

[4:36:40] were just right at half of

[4:36:41] what they were thinking it was

[4:36:43] going to cost them

[4:36:46] you chair thank you Mr.

[4:36:47] Mitchell. So just to clarify the

[4:36:49] original estimate was500,000

[4:36:51] because that was going to

[4:36:52] include engineering and other

[4:36:54] prep work but at the end of the

[4:36:55] project it was

[4:36:56] $250 per square foot. Right

[4:37:01] correct right well no they they

[4:37:03] estimate to build it on site

[4:37:06] with a local contractor was500 a

[4:37:08] foot by using us they saved

[4:37:10] half. Thank you I misunderstood

[4:37:12] that thank you madam Chair Mr.

[4:37:14] Mitchell. OK

[4:37:15] I think that's a great idea

[4:37:17] for a lot of our rural schools

[4:37:19] that are grappling with how

[4:37:21] we're going to provide teacher

[4:37:22] housing so this is interesting

[4:37:25] so can you tell me what was

[4:37:27] the total cost then?

[4:37:31] they had some additional costs

[4:37:32] there was some facilities here

[4:37:34] that they dem demoed to make

[4:37:36] room for this. I believe our

[4:37:38] contract was right around 2

[4:37:41] million and it

[4:37:44] I didn't mention but all all

[4:37:46] those units were a three bedroom

[4:37:48] two bath

[4:37:48] units

[4:37:54] Thank you chair and Mr Mitchell

[4:37:56] my next question is

[4:37:59] you may have answered this a

[4:38:02] while ago you had talked about

[4:38:03] how you use the local workforce

[4:38:05] but you build in your facility

[4:38:09] so is a a a crew taken out? Is

[4:38:12] is that the work what what's the

[4:38:13] local workforce helplp me

[4:38:14] understand that madam Chair

[4:38:17] andpresentative thank you for

[4:38:18] that question. I'd love to

[4:38:19] clarify it so the actual home

[4:38:22] like you you see these we can

[4:38:24] just look at this for example so

[4:38:26] the home when you walk in

[4:38:29] there the cabinet

[4:38:30] s the flooring, the countertops,

[4:38:32] the bathrooms that was all done

[4:38:34] in the factory. However, there

[4:38:36] are certain things that need to

[4:38:37] take place on site once we

[4:38:39] actually set the home on the

[4:38:40] foundation. Well, one the

[4:38:42] foundation needs to be poured on

[4:38:43] site. that metal roof had to be

[4:38:46] done on site. there's a little

[4:38:47] bit of the sighting that has to

[4:38:49] marry up a little bit of

[4:38:52] interior work plumbing

[4:38:54] connections, electrical

[4:38:55] connections and that has to be

[4:38:58] done on site and so we can use

[4:39:00] our local

[4:39:01] trade

[4:39:03] force that we use inRoswell

[4:39:07] arttesia but

[4:39:07] we prefer and we know that the

[4:39:10] communities prefer that we use

[4:39:11] their local

[4:39:12] workforce because it's

[4:39:14] relatively easy stuff it it's

[4:39:16] not anything that a regular

[4:39:20] contractor can't handle

[4:39:22] you for that answer chair and

[4:39:25] Mr Mitchell, my last question is

[4:39:26] what are the warranties on these

[4:39:28] types of structures

[4:39:31] madam chair andre representative

[4:39:33] we offer a one year bumper to

[4:39:37] bumper warranty on all our new

[4:39:39] homes and then they also come

[4:39:41] with a twoyear mechanical

[4:39:43] plumbing warranty so think the

[4:39:46] Ac goes out within the first two

[4:39:48] years we'll we'll go fix that

[4:39:50] and then they have a 10 year

[4:39:51] structural warranty. anything

[4:39:52] happens with the foundation

[4:39:56] whatnot in the 1st 10 years

[4:39:56] we'll go and fix that

[4:40:00] you have one more question thank

[4:40:02] you have you

[4:40:04] chaired Mr Mitchell have you

[4:40:05] contracted or worked with any

[4:40:07] public schools tribally

[4:40:09] controlled schools, private

[4:40:10] schools to provide teacher

[4:40:12] housing or tribally

[4:40:14] controlled health centers in in

[4:40:16] health service any medical type

[4:40:18] programs that need employee

[4:40:20] housing? have you worked with

[4:40:21] them and can you tell us about

[4:40:22] those

[4:40:25] madam chair andres

[4:40:25] representative, my dad can

[4:40:26] probably speak a little more to

[4:40:29] this we haven't had any teacher

[4:40:33] housing projects that we've

[4:40:35] completed yet we're in the works

[4:40:37] on a couple but I know that

[4:40:40] JNh services the civil side has

[4:40:42] done a lot and we are CES

[4:40:44] approved so we we can do that

[4:40:47] the teacher housing work

[4:40:50] directly correct yeah and and

[4:40:53] for the so we've been in a

[4:40:54] civil industry for 30 years and

[4:40:57] we've worked with the musscuaro

[4:40:58] tribe and one of their housing

[4:41:00] subdivisions that we built we

[4:41:03] did all the infrastructure at

[4:41:04] different vertical contractor

[4:41:05] built the structures for that

[4:41:08] one

[4:41:09] and we're currently working with

[4:41:12] muscular's putting in water

[4:41:12] system we've done a lot of work

[4:41:14] here over the years for the city

[4:41:16] of Gallup

[4:41:19] in 30 years we've done a lot of

[4:41:21] work so we we're very familiar

[4:41:23] with the the processes and and

[4:41:26] what needs to take place on the

[4:41:28] governmental side of it

[4:41:30] thank you madam chair thank you

[4:41:31] Mr Mitchell. I'm glad to hear

[4:41:33] that and I'm also glad I didn't

[4:41:35] hear of any restrictions or any

[4:41:37] concerns that you had that the

[4:41:39] federal government doesn't allow

[4:41:40] that type of contracting with

[4:41:42] modular buildings sounds like

[4:41:43] they do so yes ma'am so just

[4:41:46] because it's modular it it it

[4:41:48] appreciates everything about it

[4:41:50] as as if it's on site belt.

[4:41:53] and and it's actually better

[4:41:55] quality.

[4:41:57] thank you madam chair

[4:41:59] thank you thank youpresentative

[4:42:00] Representative royalabballero

[4:42:04] thank you madam chair and thank

[4:42:06] you it's good to see you again

[4:42:07] you would have been proud very

[4:42:09] proud of your son100 time full

[4:42:11] because he presented before the

[4:42:13] economic and rural

[4:42:14] development when we met in

[4:42:17] uhRoswell and part of our

[4:42:18] conversation madam chairir was

[4:42:20] we encouraged him to reach out

[4:42:22] to various interim committees

[4:42:25] around the state because we were

[4:42:26] still meeting and we wanted

[4:42:29] to help him

[4:42:31] promote

[4:42:34] the housing this modular

[4:42:38] housing

[4:42:39] and because of the very

[4:42:41] questions you were asking

[4:42:46] Teacher housing you know started

[4:42:47] working in in Cibala

[4:42:50] McKinley County's back in 2001

[4:42:53] and back then

[4:42:54] they were telling us

[4:42:56] about the need for teacher

[4:42:58] housing and then the city of

[4:42:58] Grantz was highly

[4:43:01] had

[4:43:03] high degree of dilapidated

[4:43:06] housing

[4:43:07] and housing had to be those

[4:43:09] homes had to be demolished they

[4:43:12] were ruled unsafe for a large to

[4:43:13] a large extent because they were

[4:43:16] so old they were built in the

[4:43:17] early mining industry so I

[4:43:20] say all that to say that again I

[4:43:23] I was exposed to modular housing

[4:43:26] when I was doing housing

[4:43:27] development down south

[4:43:30] and and thank you for asking

[4:43:31] the question about the federal

[4:43:33] government because it in fact

[4:43:35] was one of the very first

[4:43:36] grants I can't remember I think

[4:43:39] it was carlos might remember but

[4:43:42] we received

[4:43:44] Federal funding on from three

[4:43:48] different sources because at

[4:43:50] that time we were breaking

[4:43:51] ground it was a trailblazing

[4:43:53] idea of modular homes and it

[4:43:57] worked so well that the veterans

[4:43:58] administration bought into it

[4:44:01] in certain areas and far west

[4:44:03] Texas that are very isolated but

[4:44:05] yet veterans were were

[4:44:08] buying pieces of land once they

[4:44:11] had access to capital and so on

[4:44:13] so madam chair I wanted to

[4:44:17] just bring that because we

[4:44:20] encouraged exposure of

[4:44:23] this and the more you get

[4:44:25] exposed to us in our committees

[4:44:27] around the state I think the

[4:44:29] more the better understanding we

[4:44:31] get of how

[4:44:32] this could actually be a great

[4:44:36] resolution for our housing

[4:44:37] shortage but not only that the

[4:44:39] affordability factor we also

[4:44:42] madam chairir brought up the

[4:44:43] whole question of how are

[4:44:45] unfortunately our senior

[4:44:48] citizens are losing their homes

[4:44:50] because they're unable to

[4:44:53] keep up with the horrible

[4:44:54] costs associated they may have

[4:44:56] finished their mortgage but they

[4:44:58] have these high utility rates

[4:44:59] and all the other costs

[4:45:00] associated and their homes have

[4:45:02] now

[4:45:03] after th30,40,50 years become

[4:45:05] unaffordable and they

[4:45:09] especially those families that

[4:45:11] don't have dependences so

[4:45:13] this is a viable alternative

[4:45:15] affordable alternative in a

[4:45:18] number of ways and so one

[4:45:20] question

[4:45:22] were you able to get

[4:45:24] on the agenda with mortgage

[4:45:27] finance Author

[4:45:37] Madam Chair andre

[4:45:37] representative, thank you for

[4:45:38] that question. Yes ma'am we've

[4:45:39] actually presented at their

[4:45:43] board meeting

[4:45:43] before and I I've gotten to

[4:45:47] be a special guest once or twice

[4:45:49] so that's they've they've been

[4:45:51] very good to us and we're going

[4:45:54] to need all the legislative

[4:45:55] support we can get to move

[4:45:57] mortgage finance authority I

[4:46:00] think we all need to be the

[4:46:01] oversight for them because they

[4:46:03] have been presented many ideas

[4:46:05] and this is one of the most

[4:46:06] affordable ideas they've been

[4:46:07] presented and for some reason

[4:46:09] they have a new name what is it

[4:46:11] housing

[4:46:11] New Mexico or something like

[4:46:14] that they they just

[4:46:17] do not want to remove themselves

[4:46:19] from the conventional

[4:46:21] housing

[4:46:22] construction concepts right that

[4:46:28] self or380,000 dollars to start

[4:46:30] off with up and they call that

[4:46:33] affordable when in fact at

[4:46:35] one of their meetings madam

[4:46:36] chair a question was asked and

[4:46:39] said how much money would

[4:46:40] what is what would be the

[4:46:43] minimum hourly wage that a

[4:46:45] family would have to be made a

[4:46:47] head of household would have to

[4:46:49] make in order to be able to

[4:46:51] afford just walking into

[4:46:51] a380,000

[4:46:54] and it came out to44 almost45

[4:46:56] dollars an hour

[4:46:57] wage they would have to earn in

[4:47:01] order to be able to walk

[4:47:01] into380,00

[4:47:06] you know in Albuquerque so

[4:47:09] again this is

[4:47:10] a real alternate not alternative

[4:47:15] it's a real housing opportunity

[4:47:17] that's being presented to us at

[4:47:21] different committees and

[4:47:22] different areas of our state

[4:47:24] where we're all being faced with

[4:47:26] a housing crisis

[4:47:28] and we heard earlier fromallup

[4:47:30] about the homeless unsheltered

[4:47:33] crisis that we're facing

[4:47:35] when we have a viable

[4:47:36] alternative right here so I just

[4:47:38] wanted to say thank you to you

[4:47:40] for being diligent in pursuing

[4:47:41] these presentations and I

[4:47:45] would just say that you keep

[4:47:46] doing it be persistent and

[4:47:48] we'll keep promoting as much as

[4:47:51] we can the the this

[4:47:55] housing

[4:47:56] modular home

[4:47:59] concept although it's been

[4:48:01] around for a while but in in the

[4:48:05] other admirable thing is that

[4:48:06] you're present right here in our

[4:48:08] backyard in the state of New

[4:48:10] Mexico

[4:48:10] so I'm glad you did a little bit

[4:48:12] about your company because

[4:48:14] you're located right here

[4:48:16] inRoswell, New Mexico.

[4:48:18] so and you have the capacity to

[4:48:20] be

[4:48:22] communities as well and I

[4:48:25] think the more volume it's the

[4:48:27] classic capitalist concept the

[4:48:29] more volume the cost can go down

[4:48:32] so the more volume we have in

[4:48:33] this type of housing hopefully

[4:48:35] by the time you get toallup, New

[4:48:36] Mexico

[4:48:38] the the price per square foot

[4:48:40] might go down from160 to

[4:48:44] maybe140,120 I don't know

[4:48:45] wishful thinking but anyway

[4:48:47] thank you madam chair and and

[4:48:47] thank you

[4:48:51] and and and again you give us

[4:48:54] hope because you're a young man

[4:48:56] following in a family business

[4:48:57] but you're doing an excellent

[4:48:59] job. Thank you.

[4:49:01] thank youpresentative

[4:49:02] Representative Vice chairir

[4:49:04] Johnson. thank you madam chairir

[4:49:07] I just want to say now you tell

[4:49:10] me

[4:49:11] because I'm one of those people

[4:49:13] who drives back

[4:49:19] So I think I'm excited to

[4:49:23] continue to follow and support

[4:49:26] this program. I know that our

[4:49:30] health

[4:49:35] our senior citizens

[4:49:42] see our students commute

[4:49:44] hundreds of miles just to attend

[4:49:46] class who who need to be in

[4:49:55] a class work so and I want to

[4:49:58] thankpresentative Abeda for the

[4:49:58] questions she asked all the

[4:50:01] questions that we were curious

[4:50:03] about

[4:50:04] and so I think homes are

[4:50:13] so

[4:50:13] thank you

[4:50:18] you any other questions for

[4:50:20] committee members

[4:50:24] thank you thank you for coming

[4:50:26] all the way this way and even

[4:50:28] to my community members that are

[4:50:30] here this is one of the a little

[4:50:33] bit of a solution I think for

[4:50:35] many of the things we because

[4:50:37] even with our behavioral health

[4:50:38] entities that presented earlier

[4:50:41] after that 90 days is up when

[4:50:43] they are ready to get going it's

[4:50:45] permanent housing. how do we get

[4:50:47] them to that next step of

[4:50:48] something they can afford

[4:50:50] especially if they have those

[4:50:51] skills and meet the needs of the

[4:50:54] So I'm very grateful for you

[4:50:56] coming up and looking forward to

[4:50:58] seeing you and I I really pass

[4:51:01] your name the name of your

[4:51:02] company around to people when

[4:51:04] they talk about housing I'm like

[4:51:05] check this out but he does

[4:51:08] have a website online

[4:51:09] for you to look on with some of

[4:51:12] the information and the videos

[4:51:14] they do have something there

[4:51:16] but thank you for the committee

[4:51:17] members and thank you and I

[4:51:20] don't have any que I I think you

[4:51:21] answered a lot of my questions

[4:51:22] after we had that

[4:51:24] presentation so that was where I

[4:51:25] I I

[4:51:27] they were good answers

[4:51:30] Thank you guys

[4:51:37] ok we're on item number5 Senate

[4:51:39] bill3 with Mr. Collins and

[4:51:41] then we have one more after that

[4:51:43] with an update from the McKinley

[4:51:44] County DWRI court from our pres

[4:51:45] judgedyazzie

[4:52:42] OKen you've been before the

[4:52:42] committee before so I'm sure

[4:52:44] you're familiar and

[4:52:46] oh is he gonna join you

[4:52:49] ok that's fine

[4:52:52] he wants to join me

[4:52:53] you want to join me

[4:52:57] so members we are

[4:53:00] we are 6 minutes behind. I'm

[4:53:05] just curious.

[4:53:08] you may be gettingin.

[4:53:13] Well thank you

[4:53:18] can you hear me

[4:53:21] hello

[4:53:23] thank you madam chair vice chair

[4:53:26] and senators and representatives

[4:53:29] part of this committee it's

[4:53:31] really an honor to be here.

[4:53:35] I don't know about being short

[4:53:36] because as a part of why I'm

[4:53:38] here I want to give you a really

[4:53:41] my

[4:53:45] how I got here started 50 years

[4:53:47] ago on December

[4:53:53] thir1st around3 in the morning

[4:53:56] when my

[4:53:58] professional baseball career

[4:54:00] ended after I ran into a car on

[4:54:04] a snowmobile

[4:54:06] I'm from Oregon originally and

[4:54:08] I'd come home from a successful

[4:54:11] baseball season

[4:54:13] your first handout is a

[4:54:15] letter that I received from

[4:54:16] Tonyegegal

[4:54:19] I was hoping to

[4:54:21] move out of professional

[4:54:24] baseball here in the states. I'd

[4:54:27] play I'd turn down playing in

[4:54:29] Mexico in1976 to stay at home in

[4:54:33] oregon

[4:54:35] I played professionally for

[4:54:37] six seasons for regular seasons

[4:54:40] with the Milwaukeebrewers in

[4:54:41] their farm system. I got

[4:54:43] released in'751975 from the

[4:54:47] sacramento bees in the Pacific

[4:54:49] coast League I might be the

[4:54:53] only player that you know who

[4:54:56] actually pitched against the

[4:54:58] Albuquerque dukes

[4:54:59] Tommy Lasorda, Ronsey

[4:55:05] that's my relief pitcher back

[4:55:07] here in the back

[4:55:09] Larry Foster he was honored to

[4:55:12] be a part of Native Americanhall

[4:55:15] of fame baseball playing hall of

[4:55:15] fame but

[4:55:21] really I'm here to really try to

[4:55:24] give you information and what

[4:55:25] I've learned over the last50

[4:55:27] years of living with a brain

[4:55:29] injury because I really hope

[4:55:32] that this information I know

[4:55:34] I've talked to uhpresentative

[4:55:35] Johnson since she's had her

[4:55:38] brain injury and I'll let her

[4:55:41] talk to

[4:55:41] some of that after I talk here

[4:55:44] about her care and and really I

[4:55:47] think it's gonna

[4:55:48] point out some of the reasons

[4:55:52] why I'm here

[4:55:54] because really

[4:55:56] it's really hard to understand

[4:56:01] we look fine

[4:56:02] but you don't understand the

[4:56:04] difficulties that we have in

[4:56:06] just daily living

[4:56:08] Once our brain is scrambled it

[4:56:12] really is hard to make sense of

[4:56:15] things and understand things. it

[4:56:17] was good that Bill Lee was here

[4:56:19] talking about epilepsy

[4:56:21] the number one cause of epilepsy

[4:56:23] is brain injuries.

[4:56:25] and so I really recommend and I

[4:56:28] support what he was saying and

[4:56:30] doing with the vagus nerve

[4:56:31] implant

[4:56:33] because that's one of the things

[4:56:35] I've learned over the years and

[4:56:36] I'll talk a little bit about

[4:56:38] this as I go along

[4:56:39] but when I

[4:56:41] woke up I'll tell you a little

[4:56:43] bit about my injury

[4:56:45] everything I don't know any of

[4:56:49] things I've got about a month

[4:56:50] missing. I remember going to

[4:56:54] the hot springs I'd come home

[4:56:56] for the holidays after its

[4:56:57] successful baseball season. I

[4:57:02] was10 and1 in1976 our team took

[4:57:03] the state championship instead

[4:57:05] of I turned down played in

[4:57:07] Mexico professionally but I

[4:57:08] stayed in Oregon to plan semiro

[4:57:12] team Bend Oregon

[4:57:14] I was10 and1. our team took

[4:57:16] the state championship. I

[4:57:17] pitched the semifinal game to

[4:57:20] get us into the playoffs and

[4:57:21] then I came in in relief to win

[4:57:24] the championship

[4:57:26] like I I was gonna use this

[4:57:28] letter

[4:57:29] to go out of the states because

[4:57:34] in1976 Major League Baseball

[4:57:37] was opening up and as well as

[4:57:41] Europee was expanding Italy that

[4:57:44] they were all kinds of places

[4:57:46] for me to play and I was gonna

[4:57:48] take my skills and my abilities

[4:57:50] outside of the states because I

[4:57:53] saw that's where my future was.

[4:57:58] unfortunately I never got to use

[4:58:00] this letter

[4:58:02] like I said they told me that

[4:58:04] I remember Christmas Eve I went

[4:58:07] up to the hot springs. I wanted

[4:58:09] to do two things when I got home

[4:58:11] for the ho well three things

[4:58:12] actually regroup and decide if I

[4:58:14] was where I was going to play

[4:58:16] that summer if I was going to

[4:58:18] play

[4:58:20] other was to go to the hot

[4:58:22] springs well actually you had to

[4:58:24] go to the hot springs and that's

[4:58:25] what I remember doing on

[4:58:27] Christmas Eve. The other was to

[4:58:29] go snowmobiling

[4:58:31] I don't remember that they tell

[4:58:33] me I was

[4:58:36] one of my we met a bunch of

[4:58:37] people three of us had been

[4:58:39] snowmobiling for a couple3 hours

[4:58:41] we met other people at this

[4:58:42] rendezvous place

[4:58:46] after the bars had closed so

[4:58:49] they all came up and I guess one

[4:58:51] of my friends had lost his keys

[4:58:53] to a snowbill, another hot wired

[4:58:56] it and they said let me take

[4:58:57] it for a test run

[4:58:59] they told me I went up about

[4:59:01] mile, came back all all out and

[4:59:05] was probably doing4050 miles an

[4:59:06] hour. the only person that saw

[4:59:08] saw what happened was standing

[4:59:11] in there was a line of pickups

[4:59:13] on one side there was a u and he

[4:59:16] was standing in between the the

[4:59:18] pickups and the and and the you

[4:59:20] and all I can think of is I must

[4:59:23] have saw him and tried to avoid

[4:59:25] hitting him and ran heads

[4:59:28] headfirst into a side of

[4:59:29] a parked car

[4:59:31] when I hit the car I broke my

[4:59:33] jaw below my chin rammed this

[4:59:36] jawbone into my ear canal on

[4:59:38] impact I separated my skull

[4:59:40] busted out some teeth, broke a

[4:59:42] rib and knocked me out for so

[4:59:47] the only thing that I then the

[4:59:49] next thing I remember was waking

[4:59:51] up at home

[4:59:53] in front of a mirror about 6

[4:59:55] inches in front of a mirror

[4:59:57] coming out at darkness through a

[5:00:02] fog to picking the wires of my

[5:00:03] mouth my wire my mouth was wired

[5:00:05] shut

[5:00:08] what the blank happened to you

[5:00:11] that's all I could say because I

[5:00:13] didn't know I knew that I was at

[5:00:15] home because I was in my folks'

[5:00:17] bedroom with my bathrobe on my

[5:00:19] name wasen and I played baseball

[5:00:22] but I didn't know anything about

[5:00:23] home kin or baseball. the only

[5:00:26] thing I knew was my mouth was

[5:00:28] wid shut and I didn't know why

[5:00:31] so I walked into my mar tried to

[5:00:34] find my mom. I remember sitting

[5:00:35] back there for a half hour

[5:00:37] trying to figure out what's

[5:00:39] going on and so I walked in to

[5:00:41] try to find my mom who just

[5:00:43] happened to be coming down the

[5:00:44] hallway my my mom operated a

[5:00:48] shoe store and so she's getting

[5:00:50] ready to go to work and Is

[5:00:51] stopped her

[5:00:53] why is my mouth wiren't shut and

[5:00:55] I can still remember that look

[5:00:57] on her face of

[5:00:59] well you were in a snowmobile

[5:01:02] wreck at Summit Lake, but I

[5:01:04] grabbed her and I said momm what

[5:01:05] what what do you mean? I just

[5:01:07] got here fromor which is the

[5:01:10] first time I was ever able to

[5:01:12] say that to her even though it

[5:01:15] would take me three or four

[5:01:16] months to be able to remember

[5:01:18] about being inor and coming home

[5:01:22] I just said it and just that

[5:01:24] look on her face I can still

[5:01:26] feel her arm her hands on my

[5:01:28] arms. Oh your back

[5:01:31] you're back

[5:01:33] what do you mean? what happened

[5:01:35] to me? Why is my mouth wired

[5:01:36] shut?

[5:01:37] So I'd already forgot about

[5:01:39] being in the snowmobile wreck

[5:01:41] and that's the way it is with

[5:01:43] brain injury. it took me a long

[5:01:45] time that short term memory loss

[5:01:49] now I want to come up to

[5:01:51] this next when I this next is a

[5:01:55] letter fromRobert Saposky. he's

[5:01:58] a noted neuroscientist from

[5:01:58] Chicago

[5:02:03] when I came when I came to and I

[5:02:05] started having friends come over

[5:02:06] to see me after after I got out

[5:02:09] of the hospital I could

[5:02:11] recognize her face but I

[5:02:13] couldn't remember their name

[5:02:14] and that really bothered it it

[5:02:17] was embarrassing. I mean I a

[5:02:19] small town my graduating class

[5:02:21] was 98 kids and that was a long

[5:02:25] largest class in in the school

[5:02:26] history but I knew everybody,

[5:02:29] everybody knew me and I couldn't

[5:02:31] remember their name

[5:02:33] and it was just so embarrassing

[5:02:36] and the harder that I tried to

[5:02:37] remember the more impossible it

[5:02:40] was

[5:02:41] but my baseball

[5:02:42] skills kicked in

[5:02:46] because that's one thing you

[5:02:47] learn as a pitcher is how to

[5:02:49] control stress so that you can

[5:02:52] block all this stuff that's

[5:02:55] going on because your job is to

[5:02:57] throw strikes get people out

[5:02:59] that's focused concentration but

[5:03:01] most of all it's relaxation

[5:03:05] because when you're pitching

[5:03:09] and if you don't manage the

[5:03:11] stress your wrist straightens

[5:03:14] out stiffens up and your

[5:03:16] fastball straightens out which

[5:03:18] makes it easier to hit so your

[5:03:21] drill all the time about

[5:03:23] listening to your body. nowadays

[5:03:26] that's called biofeedback

[5:03:29] and staying calm keeping your

[5:03:31] poise, breathing that's all

[5:03:34] called mindfulness

[5:03:35] now

[5:03:38] so all these things that I had

[5:03:41] to learn the hard way. I mean I

[5:03:45] I like to tell people that I

[5:03:46] greg graduated from the school

[5:03:48] of hard knocks because that's

[5:03:51] the way it is. I mean within the

[5:03:53] brain injury

[5:03:57] so let me go and so when I

[5:03:59] did that when I listened to my

[5:04:01] body

[5:04:03] and just

[5:04:04] stayed calm sometimes their name

[5:04:07] would come

[5:04:09] not every time but it it would

[5:04:12] definitely would never come if

[5:04:14] I'm trying to remember and

[5:04:16] it just it just that's just how

[5:04:18] it works and so I kept that and

[5:04:21] so once I started having

[5:04:24] I'm a founding member of the

[5:04:27] Oregon Head Injury Foundation

[5:04:29] in1985 so I'll come up a little

[5:04:31] bit from that50 years so I was

[5:04:35] appointed by5 governors in

[5:04:37] Oregon to sit on the Oregon

[5:04:38] disability commission because of

[5:04:41] my experience and knowhow as a

[5:04:44] vista volunteer in1988. I

[5:04:47] started the first brain injury

[5:04:49] supported living program in

[5:04:52] the country as

[5:04:54] a vista volunteer so I mean I've

[5:04:56] been active in all this stuff

[5:04:58] but this is all part of my

[5:04:59] knowledge and that's what I want

[5:05:04] to share with with y'all because

[5:05:04] right now you've got a you've

[5:05:07] got a your vice chair has had a

[5:05:08] brain injury and it's it really

[5:05:12] is important I mean that that

[5:05:15] you see here as capable and just

[5:05:17] because she has a brain injury

[5:05:19] doesn't mean that she's not

[5:05:20] capable because she's more than

[5:05:22] capable I've talked to her a lot

[5:05:24] I I hope I'm not making her

[5:05:26] uncomfortable but it really

[5:05:30] is critical that we

[5:05:32] identify folks with brain

[5:05:35] injuries on the streets and

[5:05:38] that's really part part of why

[5:05:39] I'm here this next inf

[5:05:40] information I got is a guy

[5:05:44] that's I picked this up when I

[5:05:46] was given my groups I've been

[5:05:47] giving groups here for over

[5:05:51] fif years this was one of my

[5:05:53] first

[5:05:54] groups I went to at the jail to

[5:05:56] talk about brain injury

[5:05:58] awareness bring it because I I

[5:06:01] believe and again that's why I'm

[5:06:04] here is to is to identify people

[5:06:08] with brain injuries on the

[5:06:09] streets of Gallup because unless

[5:06:12] we do this it's going to make

[5:06:14] really solving the problem of

[5:06:17] the revolving door that we have

[5:06:18] here impossible to to end

[5:06:23] so

[5:06:24] the next

[5:06:25] handout I've got is the coping

[5:06:29] with stress

[5:06:31] this is the mindfulness that I

[5:06:33] talk about

[5:06:35] this is the ways that we can

[5:06:37] assist people at the hojos I

[5:06:41] forgot to tell you I'm executive

[5:06:43] director of thehosho Center for

[5:06:44] Personal Enhancement. our office

[5:06:46] is down in the mall. We

[5:06:48] primarily work with people on

[5:06:50] the streets

[5:06:53] I've talked about this

[5:06:55] identifying people with with

[5:06:57] brain injuries for over 20

[5:06:59] years. I just had my 2fourth

[5:07:01] anniversary living ingumerco

[5:07:05] I've been living here for 24

[5:07:07] years so and when the

[5:07:11] hozhouenter was first being

[5:07:12] organized it was being

[5:07:15] organized as a drop in center

[5:07:17] for people on the streets with

[5:07:19] alcohol substance abuse and

[5:07:21] mental health issues

[5:07:23] I got involved because when I

[5:07:26] heard mental health I wanted to

[5:07:28] make sure that people with brain

[5:07:30] injuries were a part of this

[5:07:32] discussion

[5:07:36] because

[5:07:37] mental health mental illness and

[5:07:39] brain injury they're all

[5:07:40] separate well it probably a

[5:07:43] brain injuries are included with

[5:07:45] mental health but I wanted to

[5:07:46] make sure that specifically

[5:07:48] people with brain injuries were

[5:07:50] identified

[5:07:52] so that we could so they would

[5:07:54] receive the type of care in

[5:07:56] terms of stress management,

[5:07:58] everything that I've learned

[5:07:59] over the last50 years has been

[5:08:02] what I've been talking about

[5:08:04] so

[5:08:05] there's the second one young

[5:08:08] young brain shaped by fear and

[5:08:10] pain that really is some of the

[5:08:12] trauma that we're seeing on the

[5:08:14] streets so when and that's why

[5:08:18] everyone is in a state of

[5:08:22] reaction they're not capable

[5:08:26] they're they're in their

[5:08:27] survival skill that their

[5:08:29] survival instincts are in

[5:08:30] control

[5:08:33] uhpresentativeabbelcaballero

[5:08:35] sorry when you mention that

[5:08:39] about intake it's critical

[5:08:43] see that's why I mentioned now

[5:08:46] on your second handout here

[5:08:49] you've got

[5:08:50] we're working with UN them we

[5:08:52] have two interns that we're

[5:08:54] working with who are passing out

[5:08:56] these these are are surveys

[5:08:59] because we want to get to those

[5:09:00] questions because right now

[5:09:03] intakes the way they are they're

[5:09:06] pretty much they don't ask the

[5:09:08] right questions

[5:09:10] and as a part of this handout

[5:09:13] and the questions that we're

[5:09:14] asking on the second page

[5:09:17] there's a

[5:09:20] there's a screening tool

[5:09:24] that we want everybody to use

[5:09:27] right now the only ones that are

[5:09:29] using it are Gallup Indian

[5:09:30] Medical Center that I'm aware of

[5:09:34] some of the MCO's

[5:09:36] presbyterian Molina they've

[5:09:38] picked it up to so they're

[5:09:40] starting to use a different

[5:09:41] screening tool not this one. I

[5:09:43] just found out about this one at

[5:09:45] our last brain injury

[5:09:46] advisory council meeting you

[5:09:48] have a question OK yeah as part

[5:09:51] of our I'm on the brain

[5:09:53] injury advisory council

[5:09:55] and I just found out that that

[5:09:56] we that

[5:10:00] my act have our own separate

[5:10:01] screening tool that's tied in to

[5:10:05] to to the part to HCA so that

[5:10:07] they're starting to gather this

[5:10:09] information so they can kind of

[5:10:11] ferret it out

[5:10:12] and that will that's that will

[5:10:14] be included with Senate

[5:10:18] Bill30. that's part of this

[5:10:19] Senate bill3 again I think that

[5:10:21] you have Senate Bill30

[5:10:24] yeah

[5:10:26] and so

[5:10:27] ok

[5:10:31] the last thing I want to talk

[5:10:32] about is that I was identi I was

[5:10:35] contracted last week this is

[5:10:36] another thing at thehozhoenter

[5:10:38] is working on and that's a

[5:10:40] creation of of a youth center

[5:10:42] youth homeless center there's

[5:10:44] gonna be a meeting at our

[5:10:47] office onn on Thursday at one

[5:10:54] o'clock the person att Donnia

[5:10:54] she's the one that contacted me

[5:10:56] about this meeting we think that

[5:10:58] there's that there's really a

[5:10:59] need for

[5:11:00] a shelter a youth shelter so

[5:11:04] we're so our role is to advocate

[5:11:06] and draw people together so that

[5:11:09] we can create that

[5:11:12] and in closing I just want to

[5:11:14] thank you for this opportunity

[5:11:16] to be here. I know it's kind

[5:11:18] it's a lot to put5y years into

[5:11:23] fif minutes but but you know

[5:11:26] I've been trying to identify

[5:11:28] folks here with brain injuries

[5:11:30] and I see the I see that s that

[5:11:34] sy or that senate bill 30 is a

[5:11:36] way to do that and I'm not

[5:11:40] really sure what I could be

[5:11:41] asking of the committee. I know

[5:11:43] that Judgeyazi in Danielle

[5:11:48] are going to be talking and we

[5:11:50] have an MOU with them

[5:11:52] I don't know if they're they're

[5:11:53] here yet are they here yet? OK

[5:11:53] great.

[5:11:56] so are are you

[5:12:02] OK OK but we support what

[5:12:05] they're doing and they support

[5:12:06] what we're doing

[5:12:08] and and and but it's some we're

[5:12:11] we're the lone angers out here

[5:12:15] you know I mean I've talked to

[5:12:17] Patty Lundstrom and I talked to

[5:12:18] Billy I've been talking for 24

[5:12:20] years in identifying people with

[5:12:22] brain injuries and that it's

[5:12:25] just now starting to happen

[5:12:28] but however how much you can

[5:12:30] help with that I'd really

[5:12:32] appreciate it I I'm telling you

[5:12:36] until we identify these folks

[5:12:38] and get them the care that they

[5:12:40] need the revolving door is going

[5:12:43] to continue here

[5:12:45] and you know we're we the

[5:12:48] hosienter for Personal

[5:12:49] enhancement we're doing some

[5:12:51] good stuff you know and we could

[5:12:53] use your support

[5:12:56] So I don't know that

[5:12:57] my buddy here

[5:12:59] join in

[5:13:06] got ado J Robinsonhom and

[5:13:11] touching in

[5:13:20] richard from Robinson my name

[5:13:24] Robinson I'm very before36 and a

[5:13:25] half years

[5:13:28] I start off with rom pointhaviur

[5:13:29] healthalth

[5:13:31] as a cook used to be cook around

[5:13:33] here

[5:13:35] then

[5:13:37] after that17e years I've been

[5:13:40] working with the behavio health

[5:13:43] after that I left the laid me

[5:13:45] off and I started working for

[5:13:47] Napa Autoarts

[5:13:49] only worked for three weeks

[5:13:52] and hova RChhar me back

[5:13:54] as a

[5:13:56] staff out there and then

[5:13:59] they closed

[5:14:03] 36 years

[5:14:05] then I worked for

[5:14:06] what do you call it Santa Fe

[5:14:12] recovery housing over here

[5:14:13] recovery center I was working

[5:14:14] over there

[5:14:15] and then I I I just resigned

[5:14:18] and I feel comfortable but you

[5:14:22] know I was like ok

[5:14:24] a lot of conflicts between me

[5:14:26] and the

[5:14:26] staff I guess I never knew until

[5:14:29] that in but it was ok I'm

[5:14:31] working with my own people

[5:14:33] then he came and told me that he

[5:14:37] obinson want to hire you I know

[5:14:38] what you do

[5:14:39] so that's why I'm working I'm a

[5:14:41] traditional practitioner forgot

[5:14:43] to tell you that I'm a medicine

[5:14:44] man

[5:14:45] I got license I got certified

[5:14:47] and I never knew I was going

[5:14:49] to be one of that

[5:14:51] I never knew I was going to be

[5:14:52] where I'm sitting at you

[5:14:54] I'm a chapter official too with

[5:14:56] little water chapter

[5:14:58] I'm the vice president for the

[5:15:00] community at the little water

[5:15:02] and I have three kids my

[5:15:04] older daughter working with

[5:15:06] Crown Point Universityiv and

[5:15:09] then my wife would stay as

[5:15:11] human resource

[5:15:13] and then my son he's in Boston,

[5:15:16] Massachusetts atharard

[5:15:17] University MIT

[5:15:19] that's where he's going to

[5:15:20] school

[5:15:21] my son is about to graduate with

[5:15:25] medicalre and then my

[5:15:25] youngest one is working at

[5:15:26] Gallllup in the medicalenter up

[5:15:27] here he's just

[5:15:30] so I'm actually from umiranoly

[5:15:35] this community called pinedale

[5:15:36] Morenno especially in between

[5:15:36] the

[5:15:39] I was raised without no water

[5:15:43] no electric she

[5:15:44] just let go

[5:15:46] we're fighting with the sheep

[5:15:50] just wanted to bring in we have

[5:15:52] and I always think that that's

[5:15:55] ok but you know

[5:15:56] I'm glad I'm I'm here now that

[5:15:59] I'm helping my own people down

[5:16:00] at Hajoenter and recovery

[5:16:02] housing we had a hook on that we

[5:16:04] built up there at the recovery

[5:16:04] house and

[5:16:06] and then I'm down here at the

[5:16:10] the officeistan here doing

[5:16:10] talking in circle

[5:16:12] people come in come in every

[5:16:14] every morning to come in

[5:16:15] to sign up and

[5:16:17] the thing that I tell him to say

[5:16:19] hey man look at me

[5:16:21] I should be one of you. I used

[5:16:23] to walk the street when I was

[5:16:24] young

[5:16:26] tell them that you saw s sleep

[5:16:27] in the

[5:16:28] ditch

[5:16:30] where you guys were at you see

[5:16:32] you out of the

[5:16:36] I went there for what

[5:16:39] now I'm here

[5:16:41] and you guys can change

[5:16:42] I changed when I was 25 years

[5:16:44] old.

[5:16:45] and today we tell them that on

[5:16:52] there's good people up there

[5:16:53] that you can understand

[5:16:56] you know

[5:16:57] and I lost my mom when I was

[5:16:59] three years old

[5:17:00] I don't know how but

[5:17:02] and then my dad about 20

[5:17:06] this is part of my

[5:17:09] work

[5:17:10] every day

[5:17:12] I'm enjoying coming in from

[5:17:13] Liwater to here about an hour m

[5:17:16] round trip

[5:17:18] or street

[5:17:19] the long streets1

[5:17:22] so that's me thank you again for

[5:17:24] having me here sitting sharing

[5:17:25] my

[5:17:27] my experience with alcohol

[5:17:30] I always tell these guys that

[5:17:31] too is that

[5:17:32] nowadays nowadays there's

[5:17:35] alcohol miniatures

[5:17:36] or whatever they have

[5:17:38] they have watermelon flavor

[5:17:40] banana flavors that's what all

[5:17:43] our young kids are dying from

[5:17:45] they can't

[5:17:46] taste the alcohol that's where

[5:17:49] they eating the liver

[5:17:51] and I kept telling me I need

[5:17:54] thank you again for listening

[5:17:57] Thank you madam chairir. I just

[5:18:06] want to thank you for your

[5:18:07] presentation and your work in

[5:18:10] our

[5:18:14] previously I know I have

[5:18:15] earmarked

[5:18:35] communities or

[5:18:55] sorry

[5:19:01] do we had a dinner at Don

[5:19:04] Diego's it's an annual dinner

[5:19:07] with Santa Fe recovery with

[5:19:09] their board and I brought up to

[5:19:12] the chair and the new CEO for

[5:19:14] them to take the lead in

[5:19:17] developing a brain injury

[5:19:19] rehabilitation program

[5:19:21] they have a contact in I

[5:19:24] think it was Colorado with it an

[5:19:28] agency or or an organization

[5:19:29] that works specifically with

[5:19:32] alcohol substance abuse and

[5:19:34] brain injury so I'm working on

[5:19:37] that right now and if we could

[5:19:38] get say that organization to

[5:19:41] come here and set up shop that

[5:19:44] would be great. that would be

[5:19:45] just what we need because that's

[5:19:48] one of the things that's

[5:19:49] identified insenate bill30 is

[5:19:51] a need a recommendation that

[5:19:54] because right now there's no

[5:19:55] place in state everybody sent

[5:19:58] out a state

[5:20:00] for any kind of rehab brain

[5:20:01] injury rehab

[5:20:07] injury rehabilitation injury

[5:20:08] rehabilitation program that's

[5:20:10] one of the recommendations

[5:20:11] because there's nothing in in in

[5:20:13] New Mexico and there needs to be

[5:20:17] but so that's what I mentioned

[5:20:18] to but they say oh that's

[5:20:20] something we could look at so I

[5:20:21] mean see it's this kind of work

[5:20:23] I see that I do to give people

[5:20:26] ideas and reach out and connect

[5:20:29] with people

[5:20:33] but they didn't say no they just

[5:20:35] said then then that's how he

[5:20:37] found out about this the program

[5:20:39] that they know about that works

[5:20:41] with people with brain injuries

[5:20:46] because that would be ideal and

[5:20:48] then we are also working with

[5:20:49] brain injury it's not brain it's

[5:20:52] life skillsternational and

[5:20:54] that's something that I'm hoping

[5:20:56] that Judgeyazi will will bring

[5:20:59] up because we're working on

[5:21:00] identi this this this

[5:21:07] life skillsternational they

[5:21:07] work around the state but it's

[5:21:11] healing childhood trauma

[5:21:14] and curing complex PTSD

[5:21:19] they've got curriculum, they

[5:21:21] work with schools they've worked

[5:21:23] with domestic violence

[5:21:25] organizations with state

[5:21:27] agencies probation so they've

[5:21:31] worked with a number of and so

[5:21:33] that's who we're trying to get

[5:21:35] within our MOU that we're

[5:21:37] working on with with the courts

[5:21:40] is have the courts work with

[5:21:43] life skillsternational and I'm

[5:21:46] hoping that they're going to

[5:21:47] come up and she all kinds of

[5:21:49] great

[5:21:49] things about what they're doing

[5:21:52] but but but this has so much

[5:21:55] potential to solve our problems

[5:21:57] here

[5:21:58] to solve childhood trauma

[5:22:01] and cure complex PTSD and I

[5:22:05] believe in them. I I mean I it's

[5:22:07] it's not just belief but I've

[5:22:10] been involved with hearing and

[5:22:13] working with life skills to

[5:22:17] know that what they're talking

[5:22:19] about is the same thing that I

[5:22:21] talk about but it's finding the

[5:22:24] are really getting to that place

[5:22:27] to where practice you know

[5:22:31] that's what the curriculum

[5:22:32] offers people is a way because

[5:22:34] it's not just it's like with

[5:22:36] mindfulness for example you can

[5:22:38] read about mindfulness and go oh

[5:22:40] yeah that makes sense but you've

[5:22:42] got to practice it you got to

[5:22:44] practice it and so that's what

[5:22:47] life schools International has

[5:22:49] done. they've developed a system

[5:22:52] with a curriculum that makes it

[5:22:55] all happen

[5:22:56] and I'll just leave it up to

[5:22:58] them now to hope I didn't

[5:23:05] thank you and I think the

[5:23:06] well I don't really have

[5:23:08] questions for

[5:23:11] yeah we talked about

[5:23:15] but do have questions for our

[5:23:19] our our state people where this

[5:23:20] is going so

[5:23:24] and about finding in about SB3

[5:23:25] and all of that but stay in the

[5:23:27] stay in the conversation

[5:23:28] continue to advocate that's very

[5:23:30] important especially with this

[5:23:41] do you

[5:23:41] get the notices on some of that

[5:23:45] I believe you were involved with

[5:23:47] some of the planning that

[5:23:53] Wa SB3 I was but I never got

[5:23:55] invited back

[5:23:57] think they well they did have

[5:23:58] the initial meetings and yeah

[5:23:59] they had the initial meetings

[5:24:00] and there's been ongoing but we

[5:24:03] don't give you any help from

[5:24:04] people well yeah it was just

[5:24:08] really developing the point but

[5:24:09] thank you thank you for the work

[5:24:10] you do I don't want

[5:24:16] there'll be future work

[5:24:19] oh you're in trouble

[5:24:23] ok so committee members but

[5:24:24] thank you for joining us thank

[5:24:25] you Mr do you have any closing

[5:24:27] comment thank you very much and

[5:24:28] forgot to mention my brother

[5:24:30] I have an older brother named

[5:24:31] young Jeff Tom that's my older

[5:24:34] brother. I'm the youngest one

[5:24:35] from that family

[5:24:37] so just letting you guys do that

[5:24:40] thank you and now we will move

[5:24:43] to item 6 update from the

[5:24:45] McKinley County DWI court with

[5:24:47] our judgeyazi and miss Daniel

[5:24:51] Lechetti with the manager

[5:25:06] Testing testing

[5:25:11] good afternoon madam chairir.

[5:25:16] Senator Pino and of course

[5:25:17] committee members and of course

[5:25:19] representatives good afternoon

[5:25:21] thank you again for inviting us

[5:25:22] to give you an update on our DWI

[5:25:24] treatment program

[5:25:27] ga in I am Virginia Yazie I

[5:25:30] am currently the presiding judge

[5:25:33] over our DWI treatment program

[5:25:35] at the magistrate court here in

[5:25:37] Gallup.

[5:25:38] let me introduce myself again

[5:25:42] in Navajo I'm Navajo show

[5:25:44] y'all Virginiayazinia hasinli

[5:25:50] chai t

[5:25:56] and a nasha I come from

[5:25:58] cottonellevide. I drive every

[5:25:59] day again on I-40 with all the

[5:26:02] construction going on on on I-40

[5:26:05] so I make it to work on time

[5:26:07] sometimes especially during the

[5:26:09] wintertime it's kind of

[5:26:10] difficult to drive

[5:26:12] but again we're here to again

[5:26:14] provide you updates again

[5:26:16] regarding our DWI treatment

[5:26:19] program.gain our DWI treatment

[5:26:20] program has been in fruition

[5:26:22] since 2022 during that time

[5:26:26] we had our program was

[5:26:31] we didn't have a lot of support

[5:26:33] during that time and where we

[5:26:35] were going to lose our funding

[5:26:36] for our DWI treatment program

[5:26:38] and we had to become we had to

[5:26:40] come before this committee to

[5:26:42] request that the the funds not

[5:26:44] be reverted back to again the

[5:26:46] state so we can continue to try

[5:26:48] to create our program in

[5:26:51] which again Senator Pinto during

[5:26:52] that time representative

[5:26:54] Johnson and all the other

[5:26:57] representatives during that

[5:26:59] timegain assisted us in keeping

[5:27:00] the program

[5:27:01] going and now we earn inn

[5:27:03] fruition again we are again

[5:27:05] thankful for all the support

[5:27:08] that was provided by our

[5:27:10] representatives at this moment

[5:27:12] again we have a during that time

[5:27:14] I had a different

[5:27:15] program manager. her name was

[5:27:19] Chanellle Franklin and

[5:27:20] she went on to of course

[5:27:24] continue her education in the

[5:27:29] in the behavioral health field

[5:27:30] and again we are thankful for

[5:27:32] everything that she's done for

[5:27:33] our program and now we have our

[5:27:35] new program manager here Miss

[5:27:39] Daniel Likety I'm gonna have her

[5:27:40] introduce herself and then

[5:27:41] she'll give us a rundown as to

[5:27:44] again she'll provide us an

[5:27:45] update as to how our program is

[5:27:46] doing Mlikety

[5:27:50] thank you judgedge. good

[5:27:50] afternoon everyone. My name is

[5:27:52] Danielle Lekety. I'm very sorry

[5:27:54] I'm not able to introduce myself

[5:27:55] traditionally. I am a urban

[5:27:58] native.

[5:28:02] my name is Danielleakety. I am

[5:28:02] half Navajo and half Sunni

[5:28:05] and I've lived in Gallup my

[5:28:07] entire life. My dad was from

[5:28:09] Zunni. He born and raised in

[5:28:11] zuni and was sent to rehobus for

[5:28:12] school.

[5:28:14] and he never moved back to Zunni

[5:28:16] so he he stayed in Gallup was

[5:28:18] part of the medical field he

[5:28:21] was an EMT paramedic and

[5:28:22] instructor coordinator for M

[5:28:24] mestar and helped set up the

[5:28:26] EMS system here inallup here

[5:28:29] in Zunni as well as the Navajo

[5:28:30] Nation. He assisted Sa Benito

[5:28:33] with their EMS services setting

[5:28:35] that up. like I said, I've lived

[5:28:37] here for in gallup for my entire

[5:28:39] life born and raised so my

[5:28:41] community means a lot to me and

[5:28:43] this was

[5:28:44] this is meaningful work to me

[5:28:49] so to follow up on Ju what

[5:28:52] Judgeazzie stated we are very

[5:28:54] thankful that this program is

[5:28:55] still up and going and shenel

[5:28:58] did a lot of work just putting

[5:29:00] it together, getting it

[5:29:01] established, getting it off the

[5:29:02] ground

[5:29:04] came in and picked up where she

[5:29:06] left off so I'm very thankful

[5:29:07] for the work that she did before

[5:29:09] me. as Dojazzy said our first

[5:29:11] participant for the program

[5:29:13] was inducted back in November of

[5:29:15] 2022.

[5:29:17] as to date we have graduated16

[5:29:21] of our participants so far.

[5:29:23] total number of participants we

[5:29:25] have served in the program is42.

[5:29:27] so we have had42 participants in

[5:29:29] total since the first induction

[5:29:31] in November of 2022.

[5:29:34] Our current caseload is18. I do

[5:29:38] have17 individuals in person and

[5:29:39] one in extended treatment

[5:29:41] we have had in total 24

[5:29:44] discharges

[5:29:45] seven of these discharges were

[5:29:48] unsuccessful.wo absconded and

[5:29:48] ive were noncompliant.

[5:29:52] There was one neutral discharge

[5:29:54] for medical reasons

[5:30:00] and16 successful discharges. We

[5:30:00] also have 6 participants that

[5:30:02] are scheduled to graduate on

[5:30:03] Monday, September twentyeh

[5:30:06] which will bring our count to

[5:30:10] 3030 discharges but 22

[5:30:12] successful graduations.

[5:30:14] we also

[5:30:17] our recidivism rate our graduate

[5:30:19] recidivism rate for fy 26

[5:30:23] is14.29%. However, I was

[5:30:24] informed by my supervisor

[5:30:26] this afternoon as well that we

[5:30:28] are actually below the national

[5:30:30] average for recidivism which is

[5:30:33] a 28 to35% rate three years

[5:30:36] postgrad. so that was very

[5:30:38] very encouraging to hear you

[5:30:39] know

[5:30:43] so that that's those are our

[5:30:45] current numbers now we will

[5:30:47] be accepting new referrals

[5:30:49] probably at the end of the year.

[5:30:50] with discharging six of these

[5:30:54] participants that does bring my

[5:30:57] caseload down to12. So I try to

[5:30:58] keep it roughly about 20 I think

[5:31:00] my largest caseload was about 21

[5:31:02] or 22 individuals but for me to

[5:31:04] oversee them and supervise them

[5:31:06] on my own that's quite a bit so

[5:31:07] I try to cap it out at 20 but

[5:31:09] the more individuals we can help

[5:31:11] you know that's that's the most

[5:31:12] important thing

[5:31:14] so yes those are those are

[5:31:15] some numbers but just to kind of

[5:31:17] give you an idea of our program

[5:31:18] as well we do have a

[5:31:21] multidisciplinary team which

[5:31:22] consists of the judge she

[5:31:24] oversees the program. I'm the

[5:31:26] program manager and coordinator.

[5:31:28] I also do supervision and

[5:31:32] kinda whatever needs to be done,

[5:31:34] I I will switch my hat as

[5:31:35] necessary. We are currently

[5:31:37] contracted withinsu Behavioral

[5:31:40] Health which is a newer agency

[5:31:42] within the community I

[5:31:44] believe they got started about

[5:31:46] I'm a couple of years ago I

[5:31:49] don't want to give an exact

[5:31:50] date. I may be wrong but yes

[5:31:51] they they have been in the

[5:31:52] community for I want to say

[5:31:54] about5 years or so we were

[5:31:57] previously contracted with our

[5:31:59] Corners or Santa Ferecovery as

[5:32:01] they're now known. we still have

[5:32:03] an MOUis four corners here for

[5:32:04] our inpatient residential so

[5:32:06] we're able to send particip

[5:32:08] ant s that are qualified for

[5:32:10] inpatient here to wind I'm

[5:32:12] sorry here to our corners here

[5:32:13] in Gallup. and still working

[5:32:16] withinsung as well. We also did

[5:32:18] develop an MOU as Ken said

[5:32:22] withhozhouenter for Personal

[5:32:23] Enhancement. So we are

[5:32:24] we are hoping that we can well

[5:32:29] not hoping this is what our plan

[5:32:30] is is we're gonna start to

[5:32:32] incorporate more healing to

[5:32:34] wellness what's called healing

[5:32:35] to wellness and what that is is

[5:32:36] basically traditional healing.

[5:32:39] so we can utilize their

[5:32:42] serviceshozhouenter services

[5:32:42] such as their hoon for any type

[5:32:45] of meetings and also their

[5:32:47] well brady talking circle so

[5:32:49] those are some more options for

[5:32:51] our participants who want to

[5:32:53] stay engaged with traditional

[5:32:55] practices and it also opens

[5:32:57] up the cultural and

[5:32:59] traditional component for those

[5:33:01] individuals who maybe grew up

[5:33:04] without that connection without

[5:33:05] that tie and now they're they're

[5:33:07] looking for something they're

[5:33:08] searching you know for

[5:33:09] spirituality and that's

[5:33:11] another option for them so we

[5:33:13] encourage them to stay connected

[5:33:15] with their traditions and

[5:33:17] developing that MOU withhozi was

[5:33:19] a way for us to do that and

[5:33:21] provide those for our

[5:33:22] participants. we also have an

[5:33:25] alumni support group that I

[5:33:26] would like to highlight because

[5:33:28] I think our alumni support group

[5:33:29] is a very important part of our

[5:33:31] program

[5:33:32] the alumni support group

[5:33:34] consists of graduates of the

[5:33:36] program

[5:33:39] and they they the train

[5:33:42] coordinators we have4 trained

[5:33:42] coordinators so they went

[5:33:43] through the training process to

[5:33:44] become a coordinator learning

[5:33:47] about ethics learning about

[5:33:48] boundaries learning how to

[5:33:49] conduct a group appropriately.

[5:33:51] so we do have4 trained

[5:33:53] coordinators for our program

[5:33:56] to our contracted with the state

[5:33:57] of New Mexico and two are

[5:33:59] pending graduation at after

[5:34:01] graduation they will be

[5:34:02] contracted. So out of those six

[5:34:03] graduates we have on Monday

[5:34:05] two of them are ready to

[5:34:06] contract with the state of New

[5:34:07] Mexico as alumni coordinators

[5:34:09] we hold our alumni support group

[5:34:11] at the courthouse before ourDWI

[5:34:14] treatment court docket. it's an

[5:34:17] hourlong, just basically a

[5:34:18] recovery group something where

[5:34:20] they it I guess it could be

[5:34:22] equated to something similar to

[5:34:24] like a maybe an AA group a

[5:34:26] support group but it's also just

[5:34:28] a safe space for them to

[5:34:29] share and

[5:34:33] just you know kind of reflect on

[5:34:36] things together as a whole.

[5:34:38] Again, these are participants of

[5:34:39] the program both previously and

[5:34:41] current. and this is only for

[5:34:43] our participants of the

[5:34:44] treatment court programme. So I

[5:34:45] always tell the participants you

[5:34:46] know it's a safe place. please

[5:34:48] go and attend if you want to

[5:34:51] vent about the program you want

[5:34:52] to vent about me you know that's

[5:34:53] a safe place it's it's all

[5:34:54] confidential our alumni

[5:34:56] coordinators do keep it

[5:34:57] confidential and are only

[5:34:58] required to for mandated

[5:35:00] reporting so our participants

[5:35:03] have

[5:35:03] really enjoyed that and I

[5:35:05] appreciate our two trained

[5:35:07] coordinators that are contracted

[5:35:08] Tyrone Castillo and Duane

[5:35:12] Chamani. when I came on for this

[5:35:13] program officially came on I

[5:35:16] over I started to oversee the

[5:35:18] program in February of

[5:35:19] 2024 and then started with the

[5:35:23] state of New Mexico became a

[5:35:25] permanent employee in September

[5:35:26] of 2024 as well. So within that

[5:35:29] time I was just overseeing

[5:35:31] the program and working for the

[5:35:32] compliance program with

[5:35:34] McKinley County. once I was

[5:35:36] officially in my position as the

[5:35:37] program manager, the first thing

[5:35:39] that I told my supervisor was I

[5:35:41] want to get the alumni group

[5:35:42] going. We know we need to have

[5:35:43] some support for our

[5:35:44] participants as well. and I

[5:35:47] put the offer out there to our

[5:35:48] previous graduates and

[5:35:50] thankfullyduane and Tyrone did

[5:35:51] step up and you know offered to

[5:35:53] help me so they've been employed

[5:35:54] with the state probably just as

[5:35:56] long as I have but I I have a

[5:35:57] deep appreciation for them

[5:36:00] Tyrone in the meantime has

[5:36:02] advanced his education

[5:36:03] and is enrolled with the UNM and

[5:36:06] looking to pursue a career in

[5:36:09] the behavioral health field as

[5:36:10] well he's doing great things and

[5:36:12] working with peer peer

[5:36:13] members from thehozhou uhenter

[5:36:16] as well and thenduanne is also

[5:36:17] our

[5:36:19] our other coordinator he is from

[5:36:23] Zunni as well and he stays in

[5:36:24] contact with celebrate recovery

[5:36:27] and you know kind of keeps the

[5:36:28] recovery group going within the

[5:36:31] unique community and our our

[5:36:31] community here within Gallup and

[5:36:34] then also being a part of our

[5:36:35] alumni group as well. So I'm

[5:36:36] very thankful for these

[5:36:37] individuals and I think peer

[5:36:39] support is you know the other

[5:36:41] half of what makes our program

[5:36:43] work. being able to have peers

[5:36:45] available for our participants

[5:36:47] that understand what they're

[5:36:48] going through, understand how

[5:36:50] difficult the

[5:36:50] program can be and but they

[5:36:53] can say they did it you know

[5:36:54] they made it they struggled

[5:36:56] through it so whatever support

[5:36:58] they and motivation they can

[5:36:59] offer our participants we we

[5:37:01] extremely are appreciative of it

[5:37:05] and then like I said just a it's

[5:37:08] just a kind of a rundown of how

[5:37:09] our how our program works I'm

[5:37:12] not sure if you all are you know

[5:37:13] familiar with treatment courts

[5:37:15] but we do have a

[5:37:15] multidisciplinary team that

[5:37:18] consists of the

[5:37:19] the judge myself probation

[5:37:22] officers from the compliance

[5:37:24] program our treatment providers

[5:37:25] as well as we have a

[5:37:28] contracted defense counsel for

[5:37:30] our for our participants. So our

[5:37:32] defense counsel is our go to for

[5:37:35] our participants if there's any

[5:37:36] noncompliance, if there's you

[5:37:38] know any kind of questions,

[5:37:39] anything like that our defense

[5:37:40] counsel makes sure that we're

[5:37:42] abiding by all legal proceedings

[5:37:45] and you know not violating

[5:37:46] anybody's rights so they are the

[5:37:48] advocate for our participants

[5:37:49] and our participant

[5:37:50] s know that and they will call

[5:37:52] her they you know we've we're

[5:37:55] going through a transition right

[5:37:56] now and there was some issues

[5:37:57] regarding UAs and of course you

[5:38:02] know you a's are always gonna

[5:38:02] make our participants nervous

[5:38:05] you know if there may be like

[5:38:06] false positives or whatever so

[5:38:07] they contacted their defense

[5:38:09] counsel but this was a great

[5:38:10] illustration of our

[5:38:12] participant's learning to

[5:38:13] advocate for themselves. so that

[5:38:15] was a great way for us to say

[5:38:18] you know you're doing what

[5:38:18] you're supposed to be doing and

[5:38:19] and they

[5:38:20] ' re you know they're being

[5:38:21] heard and somebody is advocating

[5:38:22] for them and some of these

[5:38:24] things are

[5:38:27] are participants have never had

[5:38:28] to do this before or they may be

[5:38:30] scared they may not know how to

[5:38:32] go about it. They just kind of

[5:38:34] roll with the punches they've

[5:38:35] been in the legal system for so

[5:38:37] long they just do what they're

[5:38:38] told but so we're we're showing

[5:38:39] them to advocate for themselves

[5:38:41] and then to touch a little bit

[5:38:42] on a life skills that Ken was

[5:38:44] talking about. We do have

[5:38:45] certain curriculums that they

[5:38:47] are required to

[5:38:48] complete the treatment component

[5:38:52] is through the entirety of the

[5:38:53] program so as soon as we get

[5:38:55] them in they're going for IopP

[5:38:57] which is intensive outpatient a

[5:38:59] 90da program. Once they complete

[5:39:01] that they step down to what is

[5:39:03] called moral recognition therapy

[5:39:05] and that is where we see the

[5:39:07] change happening and it is it

[5:39:11] it'si do not have the words for

[5:39:12] it. I have been meeting with our

[5:39:14] graduates today and tomorrow

[5:39:16] I will be meeting with our ix

[5:39:17] graduates for their final

[5:39:18] check-ins

[5:39:20] and I met with three today and

[5:39:22] it was very emotional

[5:39:24] just to see

[5:39:24] the person who sat in front of

[5:39:27] me when I sold them on the on

[5:39:29] the program and screened them

[5:39:31] and told them hey you qualify

[5:39:33] you know do you want to take

[5:39:33] this opportunity versus who I

[5:39:36] see sitting in front of me. for

[5:39:37] example one of my participants

[5:39:39] my female participants came in

[5:39:41] and I had her on probation at

[5:39:43] compliance so she kind of

[5:39:44] followed me over. I knew her

[5:39:46] backstory. I knew there was

[5:39:49] noncompliance and what the

[5:39:50] issues were you know housing

[5:39:51] environment stuff like that she

[5:39:53] was in a bad environment

[5:39:57] now

[5:39:57] I met with her today and I was

[5:39:59] so happy just that that was my

[5:40:01] first checkin today and it was

[5:40:02] very emotional for many reasons.

[5:40:06] Within this program she has

[5:40:07] obtained her own housing. She

[5:40:09] has moved out from living with

[5:40:11] her family, which was the toxic

[5:40:12] environment and she was able to

[5:40:14] obtain housing on her own not

[5:40:17] just one apartment she found an

[5:40:18] apartment you know wasn't the

[5:40:20] right place for her, didn't work

[5:40:21] out for her finances and she

[5:40:23] found another apartment and just

[5:40:25] continued to motivate herself

[5:40:27] and following up on these

[5:40:28] applications and so she's where

[5:40:30] she needs to be in a good

[5:40:31] environment a nice neighborhood,

[5:40:33] safe house, she does have

[5:40:36] custody of one of her daughters

[5:40:37] and is working on regaining

[5:40:39] custody of the other daughter.

[5:40:41] She told me today that she is

[5:40:42] has the younger daughter who she

[5:40:44] does not have custody of.

[5:40:46] she's able to bring her over on

[5:40:47] the weekends and she's

[5:40:49] planning on keeping her for the

[5:40:51] fall break and just working up

[5:40:52] to eventually petitioning for

[5:40:54] custody again. so very proud of

[5:40:57] her but

[5:40:57] like I said to see the

[5:40:58] individual who sat in who sat in

[5:41:00] front of me this morning who

[5:41:01] sits who who sits in front of me

[5:41:03] you know big change, major

[5:41:05] life changes attitude and that's

[5:41:08] one thing I think we can all say

[5:41:10] we we don't like to be told hey

[5:41:13] you've got an attitude you know

[5:41:14] don't be like that but these are

[5:41:16] things we have to tell our

[5:41:18] participants because it's a it's

[5:41:19] a whole change you know full

[5:41:22] circle so and they get it they

[5:41:25] really do get it and I think

[5:41:26] that moral recognition the

[5:41:27] ra p y does help just to

[5:41:30] encourage accountability and

[5:41:32] that's one of the biggest things

[5:41:34] that helps them is just being

[5:41:35] able to say yes I did that. I'm

[5:41:38] sorry let's make amends and

[5:41:40] let's move on from it and that's

[5:41:42] what moral recognition therapy

[5:41:43] does a lot with their family as

[5:41:45] well so we're seeing

[5:41:46] relationships being rebuilt with

[5:41:48] the family with the kids you

[5:41:50] know and these are trust is lost

[5:41:52] you know so that's a hard thing

[5:41:53] to regain that trust with your

[5:41:55] family but also with your

[5:41:56] children and this participant

[5:41:58] did tell me this morning

[5:42:00] I had a moment of realization

[5:42:02] this weekend of course because

[5:42:04] there was the blackout you know

[5:42:05] we had no utilities for quite a

[5:42:07] while so she was sitting there

[5:42:08] and she said my girls had a

[5:42:10] little dance party in the living

[5:42:11] room. they brought out their

[5:42:12] glow sticks. they brought out

[5:42:13] their little lights they had the

[5:42:14] the phone going you know so they

[5:42:16] had a little dance party she

[5:42:17] goes and I took a step back

[5:42:20] and

[5:42:20] I just she goes it was just like

[5:42:22] one of those being in the moment

[5:42:24] moments where she was in her own

[5:42:26] place at her kitchen table. herr

[5:42:28] girls were here with her and

[5:42:30] they were safe and what got me

[5:42:32] what got me right in the heart

[5:42:33] was she said and my girls knew

[5:42:36] they were safe.

[5:42:38] intoxicated they didn't have to

[5:42:40] worry about mom and they weren't

[5:42:42] there taking care of each other

[5:42:44] because I was not in the right

[5:42:45] state of mind. Oh it it makes me

[5:42:47] emotional now but you know to

[5:42:49] hear her say that was like

[5:42:51] wow I have no other words for it

[5:42:54] than wow you know and I I just

[5:42:56] told her I wish I had all the

[5:42:58] words in the world to tell you

[5:43:00] how proud of you I am and one

[5:43:02] thing I do tell them is there's

[5:43:04] a lot life is hard we all know

[5:43:06] life is hard. This may be the

[5:43:08] hardest thing you've done in

[5:43:09] your life and if it is

[5:43:11] congratulations you did it

[5:43:13] You are doing it so don't ever

[5:43:15] doubt yourself and know that you

[5:43:17] can do hard things in life you

[5:43:18] know it's just about asking for

[5:43:20] help and finding the right

[5:43:22] people to support you and I

[5:43:24] think that's where our team

[5:43:25] comes in, our empathy and our

[5:43:28] compassion from the judge from

[5:43:30] myself, from our

[5:43:31] multidisciplinary team and most

[5:43:33] s most especially from our peers

[5:43:43] Well and again that was a big

[5:43:45] rundown but ok

[5:43:47] but I'm glad again that Danielle

[5:43:49] shared with us again our success

[5:43:51] in our program. We again

[5:43:53] treatment works

[5:43:54] if you listen if you believe you

[5:43:57] have empathy and compassion for

[5:43:59] your community right now again

[5:44:01] our

[5:44:01] participants were100% Native

[5:44:05] American. they're all DWI

[5:44:08] related

[5:44:09] everyone who's in our program

[5:44:11] again it's all related to DWI so

[5:44:13] again we're doing our best again

[5:44:16] and we have we have had two

[5:44:18] gentlemen who've asked me to

[5:44:20] throw them in jail put them in

[5:44:21] jail and I told him I'm not

[5:44:23] giving up on you I'm not gonna

[5:44:26] give you that leeway and I'm not

[5:44:27] gonna place you in custody

[5:44:28] you're gonna finish this program

[5:44:30] so what now the when she

[5:44:31] mentioned Mr Tyrone Castillo

[5:44:33] who's now our alumni

[5:44:34] coordinator. thanks me everyday

[5:44:37] almost every every time we have

[5:44:37] our

[5:44:38] our our session that he's very

[5:44:41] thankful because he's on the

[5:44:43] right path and he's becoming

[5:44:44] successful

[5:44:45] again and he was one of those

[5:44:48] gentleman again who I guess you

[5:44:50] would see out on the street who

[5:44:51] was like thuglike I guess you

[5:44:52] could say that he would have a

[5:44:53] thug life and a gangster but he

[5:44:58] phased out of it and now he's

[5:44:59] become a man and he's become a

[5:45:01] better man man for himself and

[5:45:03] his mother so

[5:45:04] that was a successful story for

[5:45:07] us again and his mom he she came

[5:45:10] to the graduation and she was

[5:45:12] very grateful to see her son

[5:45:14] again

[5:45:15] and she she shed some tears

[5:45:19] and very she was very emotional

[5:45:21] with who she saw and then of

[5:45:23] course we'd had an emotional

[5:45:24] other graduates who had their

[5:45:26] parents come through and again

[5:45:27] those stories are emotional as

[5:45:29] well so again treatment works

[5:45:32] but again you have to believe

[5:45:35] and again leadership have to

[5:45:36] believe as well

[5:45:39] people can change

[5:45:41] again and this is our community

[5:45:43] and we want to make our

[5:45:44] community better we want to heal

[5:45:47] our young kids that are walking

[5:45:49] the streets and again

[5:45:52] older older again older

[5:45:53] generation as well who

[5:45:55] experienced again childhood

[5:45:57] trauma again historical

[5:46:01] trauma and that's where we stand

[5:46:04] with this program and

[5:46:06] we're very thankful for what

[5:46:09] we've accomplished right now in

[5:46:10] this program and we're thankful

[5:46:11] for the support of you all again

[5:46:14] as leaderships as well and again

[5:46:16] we want to continue we want your

[5:46:18] continued support again from us

[5:46:21] that's all we're asking of

[5:46:22] course to give you updates and

[5:46:23] again your support that's about

[5:46:24] it so again we appreciate the

[5:46:26] invitation and I hope again you

[5:46:28] again you're satisfied with the

[5:46:30] update and we're again we're

[5:46:32] gonna continue to do our work

[5:46:33] we appreciate the invitation.

[5:46:35] thank you.

[5:46:37] thank you and question

[5:46:41] so our new member

[5:46:48] I think for our new members

[5:46:50] this has been something we've

[5:46:52] worked on with Judge Yazley

[5:46:55] to them coming forward with

[5:46:56] Chanel and just really hearing

[5:46:59] the program and how they

[5:47:01] developed it to really meet the

[5:47:03] needs of those that were I mean

[5:47:05] there's some restrictions on it

[5:47:07] because they knew like

[5:47:08] how far away will they

[5:47:12] that they weren't setting them

[5:47:14] up for failure and all those

[5:47:16] things

[5:47:19] mention it but it was really

[5:47:22] eye opening because some people

[5:47:24] think oh we just

[5:47:26] and I do have some questions

[5:47:27] that will lead us into certain

[5:47:30] things but very grateful for

[5:47:33] for that development and all

[5:47:34] those considerations given

[5:47:39] you said set them up for failure

[5:47:40] in some sense it was really

[5:47:42] about getting them through and

[5:47:44] really

[5:47:50] Through the programpresentative

[5:47:50] Garcia

[5:47:57] my question is in regards to

[5:47:59] your pamphlet says that you

[5:48:02] must be a resident of new

[5:48:03] McKinley County.

[5:48:07] and

[5:48:08] I'm not sure which court it was

[5:48:12] but

[5:48:12] this past week I got a notice

[5:48:16] from a young lady not wanting a

[5:48:18] letter stating that

[5:48:20] I guess the probation officer

[5:48:23] wanted

[5:48:24] a letter fromRaymond Apo chapter

[5:48:27] to allow them to come on to our

[5:48:30] community to visit the lady

[5:48:33] week on a weekly basis and maybe

[5:48:36] even two times a week and

[5:48:39] she said that the judge that

[5:48:42] made the made the order and

[5:48:45] gave it to the probation officer

[5:48:48] whatever communication that

[5:48:50] was made was not clearly

[5:48:53] explained to her except that

[5:48:56] you're not you are now on

[5:48:58] probation and therefore you will

[5:49:00] be coming in but since she lives

[5:49:03] inibla County they said

[5:49:05] the probation officer will be

[5:49:07] going out there to visit

[5:49:10] with her and

[5:49:11] she wanted to know if it was

[5:49:14] possible to have someone

[5:49:17] fromiblela County as a probation

[5:49:19] officer to come out because that

[5:49:20] would be closer for her or for

[5:49:23] her to go in and visit or for

[5:49:24] that person to come and visit

[5:49:26] her so that was a situation I

[5:49:28] came upon this past week and I

[5:49:30] did write a letter saying that

[5:49:31] it was ok for the probation

[5:49:34] officer to becoming and be

[5:49:36] visiting with her but beyond

[5:49:38] that that was the question that

[5:49:40] she had asked

[5:49:41] could you said

[5:49:44] the judge

[5:49:48] but she wants to transfer to

[5:49:49] McKinley County probably it's

[5:49:53] from McKinleyelunty judge

[5:49:53] and the probation officers in is

[5:49:57] in Mcinley County. Now she wants

[5:49:59] to know if she could have the

[5:50:00] probation officer fromiela

[5:50:02] County come out because that was

[5:50:03] closer.

[5:50:05] thank youpresentative Garcia

[5:50:08] again probation we don't

[5:50:11] controlled with probation again

[5:50:13] first of all we don't have

[5:50:14] jurisdiction inRama because

[5:50:15] again that's a Navajo nation and

[5:50:17] that's what we always address is

[5:50:21] the issue again again cross

[5:50:23] jurisdiction in order for us to

[5:50:26] cross over to the reservation we

[5:50:28] need to get an MOU from the

[5:50:31] nation so we're still working on

[5:50:33] again getting that approval from

[5:50:35] the nation but as for probation

[5:50:37] that's a probation question

[5:50:39] again for whoever that that

[5:50:41] individual would be would need

[5:50:42] to get approval from McKinley

[5:50:44] County probation.

[5:50:44] and from there they can work

[5:50:47] with one another to transfer to

[5:50:49] Sabula County but that's out of

[5:50:50] my again that's out of my hands

[5:50:52] that's probation

[5:50:53] as for your other question the

[5:50:56] order by a judge again I don't

[5:50:58] know who the judge is I don't

[5:51:00] yeah I don't do

[5:51:01] I I I know where I stand and I

[5:51:04] know I don't I don't try to

[5:51:05] cross those boundaries as well

[5:51:06] so I know where my jurisdiction

[5:51:08] lies and it's not on the

[5:51:11] reservation right now even

[5:51:12] though I live on the reservation

[5:51:14] so but with that being said

[5:51:17] and then your question regarding

[5:51:19] the pamphlet indicating

[5:51:21] McKinley County residents that's

[5:51:23] a typogain it's anyone who

[5:51:26] receives an infraction within

[5:51:28] McKinney County because we have

[5:51:29] individuals from arizona I

[5:51:31] think we have one

[5:51:32] that comes in from Arizona fort

[5:51:35] defiance to take part in our

[5:51:37] program. It's a 40 mile radius

[5:51:39] is what we're again who we

[5:51:42] try to get into our program

[5:51:44] because everyone outside the

[5:51:46] outskirts of40 miles we're

[5:51:48] setting them up for failure

[5:51:49] because we know transportation

[5:51:51] is an issue here in McKinley

[5:51:54] County because again the poverty

[5:51:55] rate again we we take that into

[5:51:57] consideration as well so we try

[5:52:00] to only take individuals who we

[5:52:02] think can

[5:52:02] complete the program and be s

[5:52:06] successful although we want to

[5:52:07] reach everybody out there it's

[5:52:10] kind of we don't want to set

[5:52:10] them up for failure where

[5:52:12] there's a lot of things we take

[5:52:13] into consideration in

[5:52:14] transportation is one of them

[5:52:16] and again there are other

[5:52:18] factors we also take into

[5:52:19] consideration they can't be they

[5:52:21] can't have violent offenses as

[5:52:23] well they can't have a felony

[5:52:24] and again we only address 2nd

[5:52:28] and 3rd offense DWIs so again

[5:52:29] thank you for that question

[5:52:30] madam Garcia.

[5:52:31] madam chairir thank you too

[5:52:36] for that answer we are about

[5:52:38] oh

[5:52:39] to the chapter it's about 60

[5:52:41] miles so I think we're outside

[5:52:44] of that 60 or40 mile but

[5:52:48] transportation would be an issue

[5:52:50] for her

[5:52:51] she was wonderering the streets

[5:52:53] over here and got caught for DWi

[5:52:56] and that that was the reason why

[5:52:58] she said that she had to get

[5:53:01] on probation with I don't know

[5:53:03] which court it was I didn't get

[5:53:05] all that information

[5:53:06] so all I did was write the

[5:53:09] letter to the probation officer.

[5:53:11] OK, thank you.

[5:53:12] thank youpresentative

[5:53:14] Representative Johnson.

[5:53:16] thank you madam chair

[5:53:18] my question is, I guess it would

[5:53:23] be depending

[5:53:26] participants or a number of

[5:53:28] workload, but what is the wait

[5:53:31] time or the service timeline

[5:53:33] for an individual to have

[5:53:38] outpatient treatment or

[5:53:40] treatment

[5:53:43] DWI

[5:53:48] After littleBI once they oh

[5:53:50] sorry madam chair or

[5:53:53] madampresentative Johnson thank

[5:53:54] you for that question the

[5:53:56] timeline again once we

[5:53:58] if they want to be a part of the

[5:54:01] DWI treatment program and

[5:54:02] referred to the because a lot of

[5:54:04] people want to avoid the

[5:54:05] thirtyday jail sentence or the40

[5:54:07] mandatory jail term so they want

[5:54:09] to stay out of jail they'll

[5:54:11] request a see if they can

[5:54:12] they're eligible for our our

[5:54:14] treatment program

[5:54:15] so what we do is right when

[5:54:19] we're about to sentence an

[5:54:20] individual or what when I'm

[5:54:21] about to sentence an individual

[5:54:22] I send them to Danielle she

[5:54:25] again assesses them she keeps

[5:54:27] completes their assessment

[5:54:29] oncece she knows that if there

[5:54:30] again once we know that they're

[5:54:31] eligible then I'll sentence them

[5:54:33] to the program and from there

[5:54:35] Danielle does the legwork and

[5:54:37] she'll tell you what she does

[5:54:38] after that go ahead Danielle

[5:54:39] thank you judgedge Ezzie so

[5:54:42] as Judge aszzie said

[5:54:43] they'll she'll contact me to

[5:54:47] do a what's called a screening

[5:54:48] I think with our current

[5:54:51] participants the majority of

[5:54:53] them were either there in person

[5:54:55] where it was convenient for me

[5:54:57] to just step out of my office

[5:54:58] and I screen them right, you

[5:55:00] know right then and there.

[5:55:01] and I was able to report back to

[5:55:03] the court immediately whether

[5:55:05] they were eligible or not. we

[5:55:08] use what is called the DY rant

[5:55:11] and I'm sorry I wish I wish I

[5:55:13] could tell you what those what

[5:55:14] those acronyms are for but the

[5:55:16] the screener is called the

[5:55:17] DUI rant and it gauges the level

[5:55:21] of risk as well as the need

[5:55:24] for treatment so what we call

[5:55:26] highris high need. Highri

[5:55:28] meaning they are at a high risk

[5:55:29] of reoffending. high need

[5:55:32] meaning that they have a

[5:55:33] moderate to severe substance use

[5:55:35] issue. Substance also including

[5:55:37] alcohol so as judge said I

[5:55:39] will screen them once they

[5:55:41] qualify I

[5:55:42] let the courts know and she

[5:55:44] proceeds with sentencing after

[5:55:46] they are sentenced, they come

[5:55:47] and see me immediately at

[5:55:49] which time I scheduled their

[5:55:51] induction into the program and

[5:55:53] they are also sent to our

[5:55:55] treatment

[5:55:56] treatment agency which was Santa

[5:55:59] Ferecovery at the time so they

[5:56:00] would be sent to Santa Fe

[5:56:01] recovery to schedule an intake

[5:56:03] with their treatment providers

[5:56:05] get all of their screenings and

[5:56:07] assessments done and it is

[5:56:09] within our contract with our

[5:56:10] treatment providers that are

[5:56:12] participants be expedited

[5:56:15] that their services be expedited

[5:56:16] so it is within the contract

[5:56:18] that from the date of referral

[5:56:20] with the treatment providers

[5:56:23] they have5 business days to get

[5:56:25] them assessed and get

[5:56:26] them into treatment so to answer

[5:56:29] your question it would be

[5:56:30] roughly a five business day

[5:56:32] wait. OK after induction. not

[5:56:34] after sentencing but after

[5:56:35] induction. yeah usually you know

[5:56:37] after sentencing but if you you

[5:56:38] count the weekends and whatnot.

[5:56:39] so we get them in right away

[5:56:41] and

[5:56:42] and the so we get them in

[5:56:45] with the treatment providers

[5:56:46] right away. they more than

[5:56:49] likely are also placed on an

[5:56:51] alcohol monitoring device so

[5:56:53] just to we we start that

[5:56:54] sobriety the day of you know so

[5:56:57] really encouraging but we

[5:56:58] also know that you know it's

[5:57:00] it's difficult. not all of our

[5:57:01] participants come in with

[5:57:03] complete sobriety. some of them

[5:57:05] have stopped drinking after the

[5:57:07] incident after their arrest and

[5:57:09] just waiting to go to

[5:57:10] sentencing it is part of their

[5:57:11] conditions of release as well to

[5:57:13] not

[5:57:13] to abstain from alcohol. So

[5:57:15] some of them do come in with

[5:57:16] some sobriety. and there's

[5:57:18] also others that come in and

[5:57:21] it's day one of sobriety for

[5:57:22] them so we are we're working

[5:57:24] from you know from the bottom

[5:57:26] and working up and just

[5:57:27] encouraging them to to maintain

[5:57:30] that sobriety for the first

[5:57:31] couple of days for the first

[5:57:32] couple of weeks you know and

[5:57:33] then so forth but yes it it's a

[5:57:35] very short wait for our

[5:57:37] treatment intake.

[5:57:46] the five days who said that

[5:57:50] to say this is you got to do

[5:57:54] this within5 days it's on the

[5:57:56] within the contract yeah within

[5:57:58] our contract they have to get

[5:58:00] into treatment and then from

[5:58:02] there yes just as as again

[5:58:03] Mleaketty mentioned it's

[5:58:04] difficult some some of them is

[5:58:06] day one but with the scram

[5:58:08] bracelet we continue to monitor

[5:58:09] them and we know return to use

[5:58:12] is gonna be again it's gonna be

[5:58:14] a continued issue until they

[5:58:17] have to be in sobriety for 90

[5:58:19] days for them to face to the

[5:58:20] next phase so if they

[5:58:22] continue to use again I have

[5:58:24] again just like I said the

[5:58:25] gentleman I've had two gentlemen

[5:58:26] who again

[5:58:27] continue to use weekly weekly

[5:58:30] and again we kept addressing

[5:58:32] them addressing them finally I

[5:58:35] don't know I don't know if they

[5:58:36] had an epiphany but again they

[5:58:39] came back on the right track

[5:58:40] again and we have another

[5:58:42] individual who's like Mr

[5:58:43] Castillo who was fighting the

[5:58:45] court constantly intoxicated

[5:58:48] coming to court and we tell them

[5:58:49] no you need to leave that's a

[5:58:51] trigger for our participants we

[5:58:52] cannot have you here so we

[5:58:54] again make him leave our session

[5:58:57] but we bring him back to address

[5:59:00] him tell him this is not going

[5:59:02] to be a continued issue. We

[5:59:04] increase his treatment again we

[5:59:06] sent him back for a reassessment

[5:59:07] what is going on what trauma,

[5:59:09] what is why are you continuing

[5:59:10] to reuse return to use so

[5:59:13] we finally got it situated. He's

[5:59:17] on the right track. he's going

[5:59:19] back to school

[5:59:21] and he knows what

[5:59:24] So the device what did you call

[5:59:27] it a scram bracelet scram

[5:59:28] bracelet? It detects alcohol

[5:59:30] through their skin

[5:59:31] yeah

[5:59:32] how much does that cost

[5:59:35] for a device that is in the it's

[5:59:39] in the for a device maybe it's

[5:59:42] pretty expensive it's about it

[5:59:44] depends on how many we have

[5:59:47] monitored but I I would like

[5:59:50] to say ballpark anywhere

[5:59:54] from1000 to1,500 you know per

[5:59:55] month. So I am exploring other

[5:59:57] options we've been to some

[5:59:58] conferences recently where they

[6:00:00] are actually that technology is

[6:00:02] advancing as well we have

[6:00:04] well some companies have

[6:00:06] GPS trackers and alcohol

[6:00:08] monitors that are about the size

[6:00:10] of the Apple watches or like the

[6:00:12] android watches so very much

[6:00:14] more convenient rather than a

[6:00:16] big device probably as as big as

[6:00:18] my phone you know strapped to

[6:00:20] your leg so the scram bracelet

[6:00:22] it as judge said it detects

[6:00:24] alcohol by taking a sample of

[6:00:27] your pores from the sweat from

[6:00:28] your pores so there's a screen

[6:00:29] on the device that has to stay

[6:00:31] in close contact with the skin

[6:00:33] and then we also have to be

[6:00:34] mindful and tell our

[6:00:35] participants

[6:00:36] don't be using any products

[6:00:39] that contain alcohol and that

[6:00:40] could be cologne and body spray.

[6:00:43] so they start to learn you know

[6:00:44] all the different stuff that we

[6:00:47] use everyday that contains

[6:00:48] alcohol and it's a it's a it's

[6:00:50] an eye opener but to answer your

[6:00:52] other question as far as that

[6:00:53] requirement of the five days, I

[6:00:55] believe that comes from the New

[6:00:56] Mexicoreatment court standards.

[6:01:07] making them wait I again I do

[6:01:09] want to mention we do we did

[6:01:12] have a delay for one of our

[6:01:13] veterans again we had two

[6:01:14] veterans one graduated again he

[6:01:17] successfully working again

[6:01:20] but we have one veteran again

[6:01:21] who who does have PTI

[6:01:24] again working with him was a

[6:01:28] challenge but again we also

[6:01:32] kept them in the program we he's

[6:01:35] actually being successful right

[6:01:36] now and he's being compliant

[6:01:38] from the beginning he was again

[6:01:40] returning to use and we sent him

[6:01:43] to treatment we held them in

[6:01:45] custody and we're waiting for

[6:01:47] veterans to get back to us the

[6:01:49] veterans program the VSo via the

[6:01:50] BA

[6:01:54] Danielle can share that with

[6:01:57] you but again I would yeah it

[6:02:00] would his his case was time

[6:02:00] consuming only because we were

[6:02:02] waiting for

[6:02:02] the VO to get him into get

[6:02:07] screened and find out if he can

[6:02:10] take part in that treatment that

[6:02:12] was the issue that we were

[6:02:13] having so since then we've kind

[6:02:16] of shied away from that and

[6:02:18] we're kind of just utilizing our

[6:02:19] own treatment provider but we

[6:02:21] were trying to do what was best

[6:02:23] for him

[6:02:24] again and trying to send him

[6:02:25] send him back to the VA to get

[6:02:27] that treatment so he stays

[6:02:28] within the program and they

[6:02:30] report to us but again I'll let

[6:02:32] Danielle share that that that

[6:02:33] information with you

[6:02:36] thank you Judgeyzzie. Yes, so we

[6:02:38] do have as Joelzy said we've

[6:02:41] had two veteran participants one

[6:02:43] previously and one current.

[6:02:45] this current veteran I've worked

[6:02:47] with since compliance and again

[6:02:49] he kind of followed me over so

[6:02:50] I've seen him make tremendous

[6:02:53] progress from an individual that

[6:02:55] was very reserved very you

[6:02:58] know not easily trusting of

[6:03:01] everybody which is completely

[6:03:02] understandable but very very

[6:03:03] respectful, very very compliant.

[6:03:06] this individual does have a lot

[6:03:07] of trauma. we did get in

[6:03:09] contact with veterans justice

[6:03:11] outreach which is the VJO they

[6:03:14] are the outreach component of

[6:03:16] the veterans veteran system

[6:03:19] to help justice involved

[6:03:21] individuals. So making that

[6:03:23] connection with the VJO also

[6:03:25] opened up doors for compliance,

[6:03:26] the compliance program as well

[6:03:28] to know that these are resources

[6:03:30] available for their clients as

[6:03:32] well that are just on regular

[6:03:33] misdemeanor probation. so our

[6:03:34] partic

[6:03:36] ip ant did receive services

[6:03:38] after a while with the veterans

[6:03:39] with with the veterans clinic

[6:03:42] and was receiving individual

[6:03:45] services as well as group

[6:03:47] services however they were

[6:03:49] virtual and we didn't really

[6:03:51] feel that it was working

[6:03:52] virtually. so we were able to

[6:03:54] get him in with We song and

[6:03:56] their clinical supervisor is

[6:03:58] actually works with the

[6:04:01] eterans department. I'm not sure

[6:04:03] if he is a veteran himself. I I

[6:04:05] believe he is

[6:04:06] so that's that's helpful as

[6:04:08] well. He also works with the VA

[6:04:10] here in Gallup. so the VA is

[6:04:12] very tricky to work with. they

[6:04:14] will not talk to me. they will

[6:04:16] not contact mething is through

[6:04:17] the veteran so the veteran has

[6:04:19] to be very accountable if I need

[6:04:21] progress reports, I will have to

[6:04:22] ask the veteran will you

[6:04:24] contact your provider and get a

[6:04:25] letter of your updates or your

[6:04:27] status right now so he's he's

[6:04:29] very compliant so he'll be able

[6:04:31] to do that so this individual

[6:04:33] is receiving services at Winsong

[6:04:36] working with their veteran

[6:04:39] clinical supervisor and he is

[6:04:41] still also involved with the

[6:04:43] veterans clinic out in

[6:04:44] Albuquerque. He still meets with

[6:04:46] his provider there and then

[6:04:48] attends what's called a relapse

[6:04:50] prevention group weekly. So he

[6:04:52] keeps himself busy and

[6:04:54] we also keep in contact with the

[6:04:57] VA as well just you know making

[6:04:58] sure that everybody is all on

[6:05:00] the same page as far as his

[6:05:01] progress in any updates that we

[6:05:03] need.

[6:05:05] but that's that's our

[6:05:06] relationship working

[6:05:07] relationship with the veterans

[6:05:09] department as well and their

[6:05:11] veteran justice outreach

[6:05:14] but yes that that is and then

[6:05:17] just don't like I said opening

[6:05:18] up those doors what resources we

[6:05:19] can get from the VJO and from

[6:05:21] the veterans department. I

[6:05:23] also share with compliance and

[6:05:24] we've got a little what I call

[6:05:26] resource board up there in the

[6:05:27] courthouse that has

[6:05:28] information such as

[6:05:30] contact information for the

[6:05:33] VJO any kind of treatment

[6:05:36] services recovery support groups

[6:05:38] whatever kind of resources I

[6:05:40] can put up there for people that

[6:05:41] are post adjudication

[6:05:44] preadjudication whatever helps I

[6:05:45] put it up there. The more

[6:05:46] resources I can get out there

[6:05:48] the better.

[6:05:49] thank you and that with the

[6:05:52] benefits because we don't have

[6:05:57] No, there is no veterans court

[6:06:01] currently.

[6:06:04] so one of the things too I've

[6:06:05] been not combined need to

[6:06:07] explore is the

[6:06:15] but I think it seemed to be a

[6:06:17] lot more efficient as far as

[6:06:20] making sure there was not

[6:06:21] duplicate services and that you

[6:06:23] did not have to

[6:06:24] post it on your board but that

[6:06:27] you put a referral out and then

[6:06:30] whoever can meet the needs if

[6:06:32] it's something that needs to be

[6:06:33] immediate or something specific

[6:06:35] or if it's a veteran that it

[6:06:38] that's where it goes and they're

[6:06:40] able to with that those

[6:06:42] resources they're they're

[6:06:44] contracted with us and they we

[6:06:46] become the in some sense more

[6:06:47] accountable to doing what they

[6:06:49] need to do

[6:06:53] don't know how I'm gonna move

[6:06:53] that forwardda because it's we

[6:06:56] got a lot going on here in New

[6:06:57] Mexico

[6:07:00] and I think that's the only

[6:07:01] thing I think that's probably is

[6:07:03] that the only

[6:07:04] in a way barrier or something

[6:07:06] that needs to be worked on is

[6:07:08] with our veter

[6:07:17] we're sorry I believe I believe

[6:07:18] that was the only issue we had

[6:07:20] again was getting our vet our

[6:07:21] veteran into treatment again

[6:07:24] services from BBJO or VSO

[6:07:28] other than that again like I

[6:07:29] said it was frustrating from the

[6:07:31] beginning for him because again

[6:07:32] I didn't want to keep him in

[6:07:33] custody as well and we we kept

[6:07:36] them in there for almost an

[6:07:37] entire month just before he was

[6:07:39] able to obtain some type of

[6:07:41] service and before we were able

[6:07:42] to release him

[6:07:44] but in the end again he's

[6:07:46] doing very well and he's

[6:07:47] compliant like she said she he's

[6:07:49] very respectful and

[6:07:51] and of course the warden he

[6:07:53] really respects the warden

[6:07:54] because he's also a veteran as

[6:07:56] well so our warden again was our

[6:07:58] our program manager as well at

[6:08:00] one point for McKinley County so

[6:08:02] he knows the the the

[6:08:04] participants so he can again

[6:08:08] I guess encourage and mentor

[6:08:11] again the participant as well so

[6:08:11] it it's it's it's it's it was

[6:08:12] it worked out for the best

[6:08:17] because again the warden was

[6:08:19] able to speak with our

[6:08:19] participant and again that's how

[6:08:22] he was able to maintain again as

[6:08:24] well any traumas or any yeah

[6:08:28] whatever

[6:08:28] disorder he was going through

[6:08:31] and don't I don't know how to

[6:08:32] say it but yeah but yeah but in

[6:08:36] the end

[6:08:37] I don't believe we we don't we

[6:08:40] haven't stumbled upon any any

[6:08:41] barriers at this moment again of

[6:08:44] course just the same issues

[6:08:45] housing transportation for

[6:08:48] our participants other than that

[6:08:50] again just the same resources

[6:08:51] that everybody else is having to

[6:08:53] deal with where we're still

[6:08:56] hinders our program but in the

[6:08:58] end again I'm just thankful

[6:09:00] again our DA it's now all for

[6:09:02] treatment as well

[6:09:04] again so again he's sending

[6:09:07] again anyone who's again being

[6:09:10] arrested for possession a

[6:09:12] controlled substance into

[6:09:13] treatment again that's a again

[6:09:13] that's again beenn

[6:09:16] very successful at some again in

[6:09:17] some

[6:09:20] at some point but again at the

[6:09:24] same time you know that they

[6:09:25] don't want to go into treatment

[6:09:26] as well so it's it's kind of hit

[6:09:28] or miss but um'm umjo Burnetts

[6:09:33] and Mr Friedley again they've

[6:09:34] been sending a lot of their per

[6:09:36] our defendants into treatment as

[6:09:38] well for anyone who was

[6:09:39] charged with possession have any

[6:09:42] type of substance and any the

[6:09:44] diversion programs they're still

[6:09:46] trying to work on it too and I'm

[6:09:47] very grateful for that and I'm

[6:09:49] hoping we continue to move in

[6:09:50] that direction

[6:09:54] you're funding's good because I

[6:09:54] know we pump a lot of money into

[6:09:56] the IOc this past and trying to

[6:09:58] get de dedicated funding for

[6:10:03] thank you for the work you do

[6:10:04] but I do I think on a side

[6:10:14] treatment providers after the

[6:10:15] they they don't have to

[6:10:22] our treatment providers are are

[6:10:23] certified yes they're clinicians

[6:10:26] so our our like I said our

[6:10:28] clinical supervisor I believe is

[6:10:31] in LMSW I believe licensed

[6:10:32] mental social worker

[6:10:50] that deat sobriety was necessary

[6:10:52] as far as just

[6:10:58] to mentor in that sense then I

[6:10:59] also like to

[6:11:08] sentencing to programs like this

[6:11:09] I think that's a very

[6:11:10] different kind of as far as

[6:11:20] indigenous people but thank you

[6:11:21] thank you for the work you

[6:11:24] Welcome aboard and

[6:11:29] and learned a lot is what I

[6:11:30] understand and hopefully expand

[6:11:30] it

[6:11:36] we are looking into expanding

[6:11:38] again we're looking at again

[6:11:40] just as she mentioned the

[6:11:42] holistic approach to healing to

[6:11:44] wellness portion of it because

[6:11:46] again apparently we don't we're

[6:11:48] no longer a DWI program we're

[6:11:49] now going to be transitioning to

[6:11:51] healing and wellness so again

[6:11:54] working with Ken and joanener

[6:11:56] again utilizing the culture and

[6:11:58] the traditions for the native

[6:12:00] Americans who again want to find

[6:12:01] their way back to our culture

[6:12:02] again is positive so

[6:12:04] but that being said thank you

[6:12:07] again madam chair committee

[6:12:09] members and and leadership thank

[6:12:11] you for inviting us thank you

[6:12:13] for honoring us judge and thank

[6:12:14] you for your work and I just

[6:12:16] want to mention again that

[6:12:17] lunch was provided by

[6:12:20] Johnson and Twin Lake's chapter

[6:12:26] morning and also to the chamber

[6:12:29] for donutts so and thank you for

[6:12:31] hosting us thank you for some of

[6:12:33] you guys in the audience joining

[6:12:34] us all day and our community

[6:12:37] here in Gallup

[6:12:42] where we are but in a good way

[6:12:45] so yeah we will only go into

[6:12:48] recessor we are due to be in

[6:12:50] Akima at10 a.m. so

[6:12:52] the let's see

[6:12:55] skycity

[6:13:01] so that is next to skycity down

[6:13:04] below right yeah

[6:13:12] No it's not that's why I'm

[6:13:14] saying you yeah it's not at the

[6:13:16] hotel yeah

[6:13:20] so we will make our way that

[6:13:22] day I think some of you are

[6:13:23] staying at the hotel be very

[6:13:24] careful and I don't think

[6:13:25] there's constructions' going

[6:13:27] eastbound I think most of that's

[6:13:28] all coming westbound and as soon

[6:13:30] as the highways then you'd

[6:13:31] probably be real happy

[6:13:35] thank you again thank you to the

[6:13:37] chamber

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