[0:00] All right. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Stoneham Board of Appeals for Thursday, February 26th, 2026. My name is Tobin Shulman. I'm the chair of the board to my right is Michael Dufour, one of our regular members. It's my left. Sarah Sulman, another one of our regular members, some of it. Oh sorry.

[0:24] I'm getting old.

[0:27] Eric Rubin, forgive me.

[0:29] I know you haven't been here.

[0:31] You haven't been here.

[0:32] I haven't been here.

[0:32] It's been a couple of weeks.

[0:35] Excuse me, Mr. Rubin.

[0:37] You're a given.

[0:38] Then we have Kevin McLaughlin, our last regular member who's in attendance tonight.

[0:44] Bill Sullivan is an alternate member.

[0:46] He's going to sit on all the matters that are in front of us this evening.

[0:51] So the way that the hearings will go is I'll read the notice into the record.

[0:56] After we've read it into the record,

[0:58] I'll invite the applicant to make a brief statement to the board, explaining what relief they're looking for, the reasons for that relief, et cetera.

[1:08] And then the board will ask that applicant questions so that we understand what relief is being requested.

[1:14] After the board has satisfied themselves as to what they need to know about the application, I will open it up to the public as the folks who would like to speak, raise their hands, wait to be acknowledged by myself as the chair.

[1:26] Step up to the podium, identify yourself by name and address, and then make your statement.

[1:32] Ideally, to myself, again, as the chairman, communication flows to and from the board.

[1:39] Everyone who wants to speak, I will work my way around to everyone, so just please be patient.

[1:44] We will get to everyone.

[1:45] I do want to keep things moving along smoothly, so I ask that there not be a lot of crosstalk.

[1:50] People don't argue with one another within the audience.

[1:53] It's just wait your turn, I will, make sure that everyone is heard.

[1:57] Once everyone who wants to be heard on a given matter has been heard, then we will close

[2:02] the public portion of the hearing.

[2:04] The board will deliberate amongst ourselves, and then we typically render a decision the

[2:08] night of the hearing.

[2:09] From time to time, there is a matter that is required, a site visit, some additional information,

[2:16] some other question needs to be resolved.

[2:18] At that, in that situation, we will continue the hearing to a future night with a schedule, with a date and time certain, and a site visit that's in between.

[2:30] So that's the general procedure.

[2:33] Without further ado, we'll jump into our agenda.

[2:37] The first item on which is the Pledge of Allegiance.

[2:55] All

[3:01] right, next is approval of the minutes from December 18th, 2025.

[3:11] Second, seconded.

[3:14] All in favor?

[3:15] I proved confirming our next meeting dates none

[3:24] she's so looking

[3:38] to March

[3:41] the 19th or the 26th

[3:49] 26th

[3:54] everybody good with the 26th all right March 26th 6 p.m.

[4:11] sorry

[4:12] 4-23. 4-23. That's what I'm trying to. Yeah. Is that 4-18 again? That's right. Well, we have two options.

[4:24] We could push to the 30th or jump the gun and go on the 16th. What's the people prefer before or after vacation?

[4:31] I think before, but I'm not on vacation.

[4:37] Neither are I, really.

[4:41] 16. 16. Right. Mike. Yep. You're good with that. All right. April 16th. And then I suggest

[4:50] we wait on any further dates.

[4:55] 24. Okay.

[5:01] 15 years.

[5:06] Yeah. All right. Very good.

[5:14] We'll

[5:15] of which is 18 pounds street.

[5:17] You're hereby notified that the Stoneham Board of Appeals will hold a public hearing Thursday,

[5:21] February 26th, 2026 at 6 p.m. in the Hearing Room Town Hall, 35 central streets,

[5:27] Stoneham, Massachusetts, they are all persons interested in the application by Yahya Ali and

[5:32] Hiba Hassan, 18 pounds streets, Stoneham, Massachusetts, to convert the existing garage to a two-story,

[5:39] 887 square foot accessory dwelling unit with 97 square feet minimum as a shared storage space accessed from the exterior.

[5:47] The petitioner is requesting graces from the Stoneham Town Code, chapter 15 and section 5.2.1 dimensional requirements.

[5:55] The minimum side setback and residence A is 10 feet, the proposed side setback is 2.3 feet.

[6:00] The minimum rear setback and residence A is 15 feet, the proposed rear setback is 3.7 feet.

[6:05] A plan of land for 18 pond street by John J. Russell, professional land surveyor dated October 28, 2025 and an ADU clarification plan drawn by Levechia designs company LLC dated 12, 25, maybe seen daily except

[6:21] Friday afternoon in the office of the town clerk. It's the applicant here.

[6:25] Hello.

[6:32] Good evening, everyone. My name is Amroly. I am, yeah, yeah, and have a son here

[6:39] representing them today. So, as mentioned before, we're seeking a variance to convert

[6:47] our existing two-story backyard garage into an 887 square foot accessory dwelling unit.

[6:54] We recognize the structure is currently non-conforming. As the structure sits near the property

[6:59] lines as mentioned. However, this is a pre-existing condition. The structure was there when my

[7:05] parents bought the home in 1999. We have no plans on expanding the footprint or moving any

[7:11] of the walls any closer to the property lines. We are simply planning on renovating the interior

[7:17] and ensuring the structure is up to current building codes. We currently have four off-street parking

[7:22] spots available on the property, which is more than enough to accommodate for the ADU.

[7:28] We've also notified all neighbors and appreciate that our neighbors understand this is a low impact conversion of the existing building.

[7:36] I have the plot plans and all the plans. I think you guys have them as well. If you guys have any questions, I'm happy to take questions.

[7:44] Yeah, my only question was I couldn't tell if you said that there's no change to the volume

[7:55] of the device so it's exactly what it is today essentially from the outside and what you're

[8:07] changing is I mean you move indoors and windows or whatever but you're basically just converting

[8:12] Yeah, converting it to an ADO in the location that it's in right now precisely. Okay. I understand questions from the board

[8:20] Is there a foundation in there?

[8:25] Yes

[8:26] Okay, so

[8:29] do four no questions

[8:34] Okay, so you're solving any

[8:38] questions

[8:43] I'll open it up to the public you can see like is there anyone here who would like to

[8:48] speak in regard to this petition.

[8:55] Seeing no hands, going once, going twice. Make a motion

[9:00] to close the public hearing. So moved. Seconded. All in favor, closing the public hearing.

[9:04] Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

[9:09] So here it's pretty existing non-conforming. Yeah. The impact is really negligible as can

[9:17] me seen by all the buddies here.

[9:22] So would that be said I wouldn't see as a

[9:26] detriment and I would take a motion to approve. Very good. I'll second that

[9:34] motion. It was in seconded. Call the role, Mr. Sullivan. I, Mr. McLaughlin.

[9:39] Yes. Mr. Rubin. Yes. Mr. Dufour. Yes. And chairs in favor.

[9:46] Okay.

[9:47] Okay.

[9:48] Yeah, Maria will explain the process from here to you.

[9:56] Thank you.

[9:57] You feel free to run.

[10:01] Or stay.

[10:02] I'm not kicking you out, but you don't have to.

[10:04] Stay with us.

[10:05] No.

[10:05] You're all good.

[10:06] Have a good evening.

[10:08] All right.

[10:08] Next item on our agenda is one, McConey Circle.

[10:12] You're here by notified that the Stoneham Board of Appeals will hold a public hearing.

[10:15] Thursday, February 26th, 2026 at 6 p.m. in the Hearing Room, Town Hall, 35 Central

[10:21] Street, Stoneham, Massachusetts, to hear all persons interested in the application by Kenneth Rogers and Mary C. Rogers,

[10:28] one Makone Circle of Stoneham, Massachusetts, to construct a 17.4 foot by 20.1 foot open deck at one Makone Circle.

[10:37] The petitioner is requesting a variance from the Stoneham Town Code, chapter 15, section 5.2.1, dimensional requirements.

[10:44] The minimum side setback and residence A is 10 feet. The proposed side setback is 9.5 feet.

[10:49] A plan of one Makoni Circle by Matthew Lowry, professional land surveyor dated 12, 22, 2025, maybe seen daily except Friday afternoon in the town clerk's office.

[10:59] Is the petitioner present? Yes, sir.

[11:08] Kenneth Rogers, one Makoni Circle.

[11:11] As you said, was seeking relief on a six inch, we're over by six inches.

[11:19] and it was a, the deck was pre-existing, non-conforming.

[11:28] It was there for 35 years and it came to a point that it needs to be replaced.

[11:36] Thank you.

[11:42] The two pictures are the pre-existing.

[11:47] That's what's there.

[11:48] That was the, yeah,

[11:55] and the rest of it's what hopefully will be there.

[12:11] So, that was there, is that correct?

[12:14] Correct.

[12:15] Oh, tore down, not knowing you'd have to go to the process.

[12:18] That was it, when it was put in, we didn't realize it was non-conforming, but then,

[12:27] the building inspector requested an updated broad plan.

[12:33] So that's what that's what that's what read it out and

[12:46] it looks like the if I'm reading this flat plane correctly, it looks like the edge of the deck is not exactly parallel to the property line.

[12:59] Yeah, that's what took the problem with.

[13:01] Actually, it probably goes like this far from six inches down to nothing, you know, it's, I don't believe it's a complete encroachment for the whole, the whole length, because you're trying to shape to it, you know, okay, I get that.

[13:16] I understand that. Other questions?

[13:23] And then at this time, I know the board.

[13:26] All right. Thank you. I'll go to the public. Is there anyone here who would like to speak regarding this petition? Yes, ma'am. Good

[13:39] evening.

[13:40] I'm Christine Masiello, a little bit of three Philstone Drive and Stonum.

[13:44] Thank you to our neighbors to Mary. And I'm off for the deck. I just wanted to come here and say I can't wait to see the new deck.

[13:58] All of us going with me, so.

[14:00] Thank you.

[14:02] Thank you.

[14:03] Thank you.

[14:04] Yeah, Mr. Sullivan.

[14:05] You are the director about it to the deck.

[14:07] Is that correct?

[14:10] How close, excuse me, miss.

[14:13] Sorry.

[14:13] Yeah, sorry.

[14:14] Are you on the side of the property that the deck is closest to?

[14:19] Yes, yes, yes.

[14:19] That is wonderful.

[14:21] That's terrific.

[14:22] Thank you.

[14:24] Mr. Cameron.

[14:25] Mr. General, I'm back.

[14:27] Yes, sir, please hello

[14:38] my name is Vincent McConee and I live at one McConee circle and my wife and I are here

[14:45] Sorry to McConee circle to the one McConee circle property is what's in question?

[14:50] I'm across the street from Miriam Kenny and we've been neighbors for four decades and I don't see in any way

[15:00] The form that this minor variance would have any negative impact on anything in the neighborhood, it's probably can't even be seen from the streets on both sides.

[15:17] I know Christine would have the largest impact probably and it's just a small little minor issue from a neighbor's perspective.

[15:28] Very good.

[15:29] Look to a vote favorably for this from the board, and thank you for your time.

[15:35] Thank you.

[15:39] Anyone else here in regard to this petition?

[15:47] I mean, then I'll make a motion to close the public hearing.

[15:51] We've been seconded on favor closing the public hearing.

[15:54] Say aye.

[15:54] Aye.

[15:55] All right.

[15:57] Deliberation from the board.

[15:59] I think this is pretty cut and dry.

[16:01] it's basically replacing what's existing non-conforming, you know, in hardship due to the shape of the law.

[16:10] Yeah, hardship is the shape of the law, and I don't see any detriment to the public, and certainly the public is in favor of it.

[16:19] Absolutely. Home maintenance.

[16:21] All right, you're making that in the form of a motion to accept as it's proposed.

[16:31] So moved.

[16:32] Second.

[16:33] Mr. Sullivan.

[16:35] Mr. McLaughlin?

[16:36] Yes.

[16:37] Mr. Rubin?

[16:38] Yes.

[16:38] Mr. Dupor.

[16:39] Yes.

[16:40] Chair's in favor.

[16:42] Thank you.

[16:46] I think two in record time.

[16:48] Wow.

[16:49] Yeah.

[16:49] That's unbelievable.

[16:50] I got to take a nap here.

[17:00] The last item on our agenda is 476, 478 and 480 Main Street.

[17:08] You are here by notified that the Stone and Board of Appeals will hold a public hearing,

[17:12] Thursday evening, February 26, 2026.

[17:15] At 6 p.m. in the hearing room, town hall to hear all persons interested in the application

[17:19] by Mainstone Properties LLC, Carmine J. Pesito Manager, nine carriage lane,

[17:25] redding Massachusetts to demolish the existing buildings and to construct a four-story building

[17:30] with 30 parking spaces on the ground level and eight residential units each on the second,

[17:35] third, and fourth floors at the property of 476, 478, and 480 Main Street Stona, Massachusetts.

[17:42] The proposed 24 dwelling units will require a variance of section 4.17.2.1 of the residential

[17:49] slash business overlay district, which allows residential use on all floors provided

[17:53] that no more than 5 dwelling units shall be allowed in a building.

[17:57] Section 6.3.3.1B requires a minimum of 1.7 spaces per unit in business district.

[18:05] The 24 dwelling units proposed will require 41 parking spaces and a variance of section 6.3.3.

[18:11] 8.1B will be required. Section 6.38.7.2.1 requires one off-street loading area for each 25,000

[18:20] square feet of gross floor area. Reposed building will contain 37,944 square feet. A variance

[18:27] of Section 6.38.7.2.1 will be required as no off-street loading area is proposed. Plans filed

[18:33] with petition by Medford Engineering and Survey dated November 7, 2025 and January 12,

[18:38] 12th, 2026, entitled Proposed Certified Plot Plan, 476, 478, and 480 Main Street Stona, Massachusetts,

[18:47] and Architectural Site Plans Sheets A010, A011, A012, A013, A014, A015, and A020 by Context Architects,

[19:01] entitled Architectural Site Plan Sketch, shows the proposed building and parking.

[19:05] Plan may be seen daily except Friday afternoon in the town clerk's office.

[19:15] Good evening Mr. Chairman and members, I'm Attorney Charles Houghton.

[19:19] I represent the Titina, who's the owner of the property.

[19:23] He's owned the property since 1983.

[19:29] They are 14 rental units in three different buildings.

[19:33] The proposal would be to combine all the lots into one.

[19:37] It's a lot of little over 20,000 square feet and the

[19:43] molester-existing structures. I do have a rendering which I can pass around a

[19:49] couple of copies so the board could kind of get an idea.

[19:55] It's actually three

[19:57] stories of apartments with eight apartments on each floor. The first floor is

[20:04] actually a parking garage or that front facade makes it look like the building on purpose so you don't not look at the vehicles, but that's not a, that's not apartments to first level.

[20:19] It's, it's the parking.

[20:21] The parking is designed in accordance with the current bylaw, which is going to change.

[20:28] All those spaces are 9 by 18s.

[20:31] Ioweth is 24 feet, those are being reduced to 16 and in 8 respectively.

[20:42] And the Ioweth is down to 22.

[20:45] So it could be designed with more spaces under the new by-law, and the new by-law is requiring 1.5 for this area.

[20:55] I want to point out that about 185 feet to the north is Hancock Street from Hancock Street

[21:03] and north only requires one space and would be over on that requirement okay and I understand

[21:11] that parking would be an issue what we are also on the one three two bus line that goes down

[21:20] wanted in Walden, so we're expecting that there would be tenants who would utilize that.

[21:28] And this would be an apartment building only, there'd be no ownership.

[21:34] My client intends to keep it and rent it just to give you some of the facts on the rental that we would.

[21:45] And as

[21:49] far as before you can get it, it's to try to rehab the building to try to make it expand in existing non-conforming.

[21:56] It just, it wouldn't work economically, there's just no way it could turn to those houses.

[22:02] There's two, three families, and then there's an eight unit apartment building to make them work under existing non-conforming and

[22:13] and expand it just wouldn't make economic sense,

[22:16] and it would never really look very well, but anyway,

[22:31] the properties were built around 1900,

[22:34] give it take a few years.

[22:35] And so it's time to redo,

[22:39] they said if you've renovated it,

[22:40] it really wouldn't look very well and fit very well.

[22:45] The neighborhood is residential.

[22:47] It did have, as I think, this board very much will remember, a dairy dome across the street.

[22:54] And I know that the neighborhood at that time was happy when dairy dome went, a retail

[23:02] use in this site, because it's really a residential neighborhood.

[23:10] This is very little, real commercial, except for probably the royal roast beef, it's kind

[23:17] of across the street from everything else is not retail,

[23:19] everything else is residential.

[23:24] And Central Business District, which were just, like I said,

[23:28] less than 200 feet away would allow this with the parking

[23:32] and actually the parking would be surplus.

[23:36] So the rental just to give you an idea,

[23:41] they would, the units would rent from about 3,400.

[23:47] 200, there all be two bedroom, two bath.

[23:50] Okay, today it's a mix.

[23:54] The cost to build the building projected is about 8,844,000,

[24:00] give it take a, which would result in today's rental value

[24:07] roughly with the rent of

[24:11] about 88,700, give it take again.

[24:15] And the current rental amount, I mean a taxable amount for the three units is $25,000.

[24:21] Three buildings, it's $25,000 at the coming, and today's residential tax rate, which is $10,000 and $3,000.

[24:28] And we've reject that same tax, $10,000 and $3,000.

[24:32] On the $88 million change, it leads to $8,000, I mean a taxable of about $88,700 versus what's there today.

[24:49] Currently, there are no minor tenants.

[24:52] We wouldn't expect to have any if you look at the types of buildings.

[24:57] That this would be around town, they are very few to none as far as children go.

[25:04] We're not having a lot of children in installments more young adults who work in commute.

[25:14] That's pretty much what we're seeing in all the newer buildings that are coming online.

[25:19] They don't like this size.

[25:26] The rendering I gave you is up for changes if it doesn't meet an effect.

[25:35] The rest of this would go to the planning board, assuming we get variances.

[25:39] is, you know, they've been doing design review lately, and I'm sure they would have comments,

[25:45] but then there'd be a cycling, because again, we're kind of over, or in the middle,

[25:51] if we waited, which we could have done, it wouldn't be till at least September that we

[25:56] could apply to come under the new by-law, so we thought we would start now.

[26:01] The bill inspector will not allow applications, and tell the new by-law as approved by the

[26:06] change general which is what's going to be the process. So we thought we would

[26:11] that now get the project going.

[26:17] So again, that's not written in stone but

[26:20] you know it will go through the department reviews again as soon when we move on

[26:24] and we'll have some input what the idea is residential for this area to us to

[26:30] make a lot more sense than trying to put a commercial use in there. So the

[26:36] by law that works for this site only requires, allows five of a lot of variance.

[26:44] That's, again, on a special permit, and I'm sure the plaintiff would kind of design

[26:49] it that way.

[26:50] So we meet a criteria of several boards to make sure that it met the neighborhood, and

[26:58] this is our first step towards that.

[27:00] As far as the statute, you know, the detriment of publichood, we think that there's a large

[27:09] need in Stoneman, the Commonwealth in general, for housing.

[27:14] This would help, it would also help the tax-based in Stoneman.

[27:21] And again, it's time for redevelopment of this site, so the question would be, what's best?

[27:26] I don't know how many names we have here, but we'll hear from them tonight.

[27:33] So we'll find out about what the public good is, pro-acorn here, whatever.

[27:40] And the hunch of is, again, the structures that are there, they're not really workable.

[27:47] They have to be renovated.

[27:49] And if we don't do that,

[27:52] we can't meet the by-law of only five units and

[27:55] to make anything work that we already have 14 there.

[27:58] It doesn't make any economic sense to do it any other way.

[28:05] And like I said, the neighborhood, as far as retail has been there,

[28:08] done that, and I don't think anybody would want to see a use

[28:12] like a dairy dome back in there.

[28:14] It just was not.

[28:17] It was good for the little leaguers, maybe, but not for the neighborhood.

[28:27] What's the mix of bedroom counts in the units?

[28:31] The current units?

[28:32] No, the proposed all-to's, two-better and two-bath, and like

[28:45] I said, this is the first step this process right now is, the three-step process, how

[28:56] many parking spaces are provided?

[28:59] 30.

[29:00] Okay,

[29:04] that's it.

[29:06] 30 would be obviously, if it's in central business we'd have 24 spaces required in verses 30.

[29:15] The new by-law would be 1.5, which is 36, the existing is 1.7, the space sizes do go down in the new by-law and

[29:24] the Iowa goes down, it could be designed to come closer than it would today, for sure.

[29:30] So I don't know whether it could make, unless it went to Central Business and I don't see that expanding, but it's nearby, like I said,

[29:39] Hancock Street is the dividing line between Central Business and just playing business, which is what we're in.

[29:50] Yes, sir.

[29:51] So the new bylaw is a proposed bylaw, correct?

[29:56] Correct.

[29:56] Yeah, I just want to get that out there.

[30:00] Let's go to town meeting and pass, so. Yes, I have a public hearing, has to go to town meeting on May 4th, and it also has to be approved by the Attorney General. Right, so I'm just saying it's the new law of reference to a new by law, which isn't there yet. No, it's not there. No, I just want to explain that for the people that don't know. Well, I think everybody would understand it. It's the proposed by law, not the existing by law.

[30:32] I can't read this.

[30:33] this, this is absolutely horrendous. You can't, I can't read any a little, I

[30:53] can't

[30:53] read, I

[30:58] have better plans on this.

[31:03] Well, we could have them blown up by the architect, I guess, if that's, that would help.

[31:08] Oh, he's got to do better.

[31:12] Writing.

[31:12] Kevin?

[31:13] Yeah.

[31:14] Oh, do you want to hear this?

[31:15] No, I already have them.

[31:17] I have them.

[31:17] I should have brought them along with me.

[31:19] Yeah.

[31:19] I don't know if they needed these.

[31:22] That's impressive.

[31:24] It's brutal.

[31:24] I didn't know you had that in your toolkit, Mr. Dufor.

[31:27] That's impressive.

[31:27] That's what he was late getting.

[31:32] All right.

[31:33] Other questions?

[31:40] Yeah, I kind of feel the same way actually

[31:42] to you really can't even make out anything on this for a project of this scale to have a plan.

[31:51] This, I've seen decks with that of plans.

[31:57] As we just did.

[31:58] Yeah.

[32:00] I think it's a resolution issue.

[32:03] Yeah, something looks like it's just a copy of a copy or something, it's produced hard to read.

[32:09] Okay, we can certainly have it done and put it in a two foot by three foot, so it would be legible.

[32:21] This does have an affordable component, so everybody knows it would have three units that would be the market.

[32:29] Rent on that would be approximately 2,900 and change versus 3,400 for the regular.

[32:38] and they would be all exactly the same unit as required by the by-law.

[32:43] Other

[32:51] questions on the nature of the relief requested?

[32:56] Not at this time?

[32:59] All right.

[33:01] Okay, thank you.

[33:03] At this moment, I'll open it up to the public.

[33:07] Yeah.

[33:08] We'll work our way through.

[33:10] I saw your hand go up first, miss with the cast.

[33:14] I believe.

[33:31] I'm here to object to the variances requested for this project because of the significant impact it will have on our community.

[33:41] The following are our concerns about mainstone properties requests.

[33:44] one, they're in a residential business district and should by law have a

[33:48] business on the ground floor because they're building more than five units

[33:51] and they don't want to. I don't see it and I'll leave that. Two, they don't want

[33:59] to provide the required 1.7 parking spots per apartment. This means that instead

[34:05] of providing 41 parking spots, they'll provide 30 and my concern is where will

[34:10] the rest of those residents park. We already don't have a whole lot of parking in the downtown

[34:16] area. This is not going to make it any better. I also just for a reality check, I don't know

[34:23] anybody who lives in this town who doesn't have two cars. You know, well, that's probably not true,

[34:30] but most people need two cars to get around. And so we're not talking about just six people being

[34:38] left out in the cold. We're talking about 16 extra parking spaces that are not going to be available

[34:43] for people to use.

[34:46] And they don't want to build an off-street loading area even though they're

[34:49] required to, my concern is main street traffic flow and safety. The reason why I felt I should come

[35:00] today is because this building is being built from the ground up. They're not working within a

[35:07] restriction of what we're working with, what's already here, and we're limited by such

[35:13] and such, or were grandfathered in. They're really doing this from the ground up. So I

[35:17] don't see why they can't actually give enough parking spots and do the off street loading

[35:23] area, and so on. So thank you very much, and here's the view.

[35:28] No.

[35:32] Terrific. I will keep it for the record. Thank you.

[35:37] All right. Next. Someone hands. Please. Yes.

[35:44] I'm Emma Westling. I live at six Middle Street. So around the corner from the proposed construction. And I'm speaking tonight on behalf of neighbors from three other households on Middle Street who all feel the same way.

[35:58] Our primary concern with the construction is really the parking that it doesn't provide adequate parking, especially for when we have winter weather and you can't park on the street.

[36:08] I can't imagine why. I'm not imagine why. Also just the increase in traffic if people are parking on the side streets like middle street that's really going to increase the traffic on our street, I would say we probably have about 15 children.

[36:24] like there's multiple children and almost every household on our street, you know, so just

[36:30] increased traffic is a concern if people are really coming and going. And then the third thing

[36:36] that I had wondered about is whether there's any proposed amelioration of the sidewalk condition,

[36:44] both on the main street side and the middle street side because the for I don't know which number

[36:51] it was, but one of those numbers, you know, is a corner lot that has like a very deteriorated

[36:57] sidewalk condition. So I think that I know that when the construction went up a cross-middle

[37:04] street, what's your number, Bruno? 472-475. That development, you know, did the whole new sidewalk

[37:14] that wrapped around, it was for the whole lot, so that was another concern, but I think we're not opposed to redevelopment, but we just want to make sure that it is done in a way that feels like it's maintaining the same residential quality of the neighborhood with, so maybe a revised plan we would like to see.

[37:37] Thank you.

[37:37] Okay, thank you.

[37:40] Next.

[37:41] Sir.

[37:46] My name is Joseph Joffey.

[37:48] I live at one-eye solo lane in Stonem.

[37:50] Some of you may recognize me as I have served on the Finance and Advisory Board for the last three years.

[37:54] I was also the chair of the Overide Study Committee this past summer and fall.

[37:57] I'd like to be clear I am speaking as myself this evening and not on behalf of any other board or organization.

[38:03] From my personal experience and conversations with many, many residents leading up to the Overide Boats,

[38:08] we had this past December.

[38:09] One thing was made quite clear.

[38:10] Residents put their support behind the $9.3 million override question, but also asked

[38:15] that are elected and appointed town officials do everything that we can to ensure we are

[38:19] also looking for any and all sources of revenue beyond just the new property tax override.

[38:24] While I am not in a butter of the proposed project, my children went to South School for Elementary

[38:28] and I am quite familiar with the area where the proposed new development is planned.

[38:32] And I feel I'd be remiss if I did not speak up about what I believe are possible ramifications

[38:37] of allowing the requested variances to be granted to this development.

[38:41] Over the last several years, and especially during the OSC process,

[38:44] it became clear what the limits are of Stonum's current commercial spaces,

[38:48] especially as more new housing has been approved within commercially-zoned locations.

[38:52] I'd like to be clear I am not against more new housing to be built in Stonum in general,

[38:56] and full disclosure, my family now lives in one of the 13 homes currently

[39:00] being built off of High Street, otherwise known as the Stonum Heights Development.

[39:03] My concern today is the combination of variances sought by the petitioner which I believe may have a detrimental effect of lowering the potential tax revenue the town could receive from the area this development would occupy.

[39:16] Allowing the developer to proceed without first floor retail will change to my understanding the overall tax rate of the proposed property.

[39:22] I mean there would not be any opportunities for businesses of this location anymore now or in the future.

[39:28] It is also my concern that allowing the developer to proceed with both less parking and avoiding

[39:34] the loading zone that would now be required for the proposed development would have, as others

[39:39] have said, a detrimental effect on both the businesses and the other residents in the area.

[39:44] And it would, in my opinion, as was already said, I believe it would lead people to eventually

[39:49] using other parking that is currently available, which again, would have a detrimental effect

[39:53] on other businesses.

[39:54] So somebody is parking in front of somebody else's business because they need to get into this new housing unit.

[40:00] I do not pretend to have the specific experience with zoning that this group does, but I am asking you to please help fulfill what residents asked me in my role that we ensure Stoneham continues to seek more revenue that does not simply tax our residents and ensure that as a town we are seeking to expand opportunities for more commercial and retail space and revenue, not less than them. Thank you.

[40:23] Yeah, sir in the back, sorry, yeah, either one, but then you'll be next, sir.

[40:34] Bobby Caffado, 47, Colin Coat Street, I have to say I really like it when we build

[40:40] stuff.

[40:40] I think it's really cool.

[40:41] I'm a big fan of big construction projects, and I love this town and I want to share

[40:45] it with people, so I don't mind new people coming in.

[40:48] But I do think that the commercial zoning requirement on Main Street is something that we should

[40:53] be very firm on not because I don't want this development to go up because I want it to be done

[40:58] in a way that supports our long term vision of what's going on on Main Street. Because right now,

[41:02] we're at the edge of a big boom on Main Street with the new zoning codes we're doing, the new housing

[41:07] development center going up. They're going to bring tons of families and foot traffic to the downtown

[41:11] area where the cusp of bringing back a bustling downtown. And I think that we should be consistent on

[41:17] our expectations of what happens on Main Street.

[41:21] I know if I were a builder, I would probably see what's, you know, empty storefronts on Main Street and say, okay, maybe that's not the best investment.

[41:27] But again, when this development goes up and all the other ones that are going on right now, we're going to have dozens if not hundreds of families who are going to be stoked to have food and shops and entertainment there on Main Street.

[41:38] So I say we should build this, we should build it big, but we should keep those developments on the ground floor.

[41:44] Thank you.

[41:46] Thank you.

[41:47] Yes, sir.

[41:53] Hi, Mike.

[41:53] My cronies.

[41:54] 11-biddle street.

[41:55] I was just before this board a couple months ago.

[41:58] One of the things that, you know, we wanted to have built at our house and needed a variance

[42:01] was a farmer's porch.

[42:02] And I just worry with the parking here that I'll be looking at three cars in front of my

[42:07] house at all times because of the parking issue.

[42:11] The lower end of the street already gets filled with cars as it is.

[42:14] the upper end of the street will get cars for

[42:18] salt school events periodically people parking occasionally will get if there's a prominent person in town passes away or somebody tragically will get overflow from the you know funeral home

[42:28] But that's understandable and you know sad and we're happy to see you know happy to share off street. It's public street people can park there

[42:35] You know, but it's just a lot a lot of parking so that's the main thing I will be fair

[42:41] I have looked at that house down there at the end of the street at 480 it looks like a flop house

[42:46] You get nervous, as Emma mentioned we have 17 kids in the neighborhood and you know with people coming and going

[42:51] Transy at you wonder sometimes like who lives there, but so this would be an improvement in that respect

[42:56] But just really worried about the parking and the vehicles coming back and forth and I think ten of those kids in the neighborhood

[43:03] Are going to be getting their license in the next five years three to five years so they're going to all have cars and it's just going to be more cars

[43:09] So that's all

[43:11] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you sir.

[43:19] Thank you Mr. Sharma. Bruno, I'm leaving for 72 main streets

[43:24] or right next to the development with the other corner between with Maine and Middle Street

[43:31] and besides the same concerns that my neighbors shared my major concern and something that Emma

[43:36] touched it is the how the theory already the sidewalks and I would say also the pavement in that

[43:43] area of Main Street, because in the last three or two four years, many areas on Main Street,

[43:49] the pavement was replaced, but if you consider between marble and maple streets,

[43:56] that is very, very deteriorating. So I'm concerned about, well, construction of this

[44:02] proportion would definitely increase the volume and the traffic of trucks. So the question is,

[44:09] Is there anything planned from the builder or the town in terms of improvement on the sidewalk as well as the pavement during the construction and mainly after because, again, it's very deteriorated and it's basically the only part of Main Street that was not renovated in recent years.

[44:28] Thank you, sir.

[44:29] Thank you. I know there is some plans on the street but not related to this development.

[44:36] So we can address that in a moment.

[44:39] Yes, ma'am.

[44:42] Katie Kirkland, I live at 18 Horsam, and I just wanted to come and say, I think our town

[44:47] just survived going through this override, it almost tore the town apart.

[44:53] We did what our town needed to do, and I just heard over and over that in addition to the

[44:58] property taxes.

[45:00] We were going to change. We were going to build a future and that future needs to protect and preserve the business district that we have. It's small, it's limited. That's what a lot of people love about Stonum. I don't think that this variance is required. I think it's requested because as people have said, they're building this from the ground up. I don't see why we can't have commercial buildings there. We want people to be coming off the exit where that fund leases and put something there.

[45:29] We want that to move up Main Street and connect the exits from 93 and 95 together and make that a huge business quarter

[45:37] To be able to have revenue for our town. I'm also concerned about the parking my kids go to South School

[45:43] We walk there all the time. There's already limited parking

[45:48] We have police there right now just to be able to drop the kids off safely in the winter time

[45:54] It's just not going to be enough parking

[45:56] These are requests, not required variances, and I urge you guys to consider what the town voted for and what we want for our future.

[46:04] I think renovating it is awesome. Anything to make Stonum look better is great.

[46:11] And I want to have new people here that come and love Stonum too, but we need to consider Stonum's future.

[46:16] and I think we need to have appropriate parking, appropriate areas for deliveries,

[46:21] so that Main Street's not getting blocked, big trucks on Main Street is going to make it dangerous for kids to be crossing.

[46:28] And I just also think we need in the 10 years that I've lived here.

[46:32] I have seen so many new businesses come and succeed and we want that to continue.

[46:37] Thank you.

[46:38] Thank you for

[46:44] signing in.

[46:51] Yes, ma'am.

[46:57] Hi, my name is Jill Blacksved.

[46:59] I live on 23 Maple Street.

[47:02] My major, I similarly am very supportive of building in Stonum, I want our town to grow, I love having new neighbors and have a lot of new neighbors over the last few years.

[47:15] A couple of concerns, there are many families moving to Stonum, just in the last few years, I've had numerous families with very young children move into the neighborhood.

[47:29] My children went to South School as well and walked to that corridor all the time.

[47:35] It's already a dangerous corridor, but there are already many traffic and parking issues

[47:44] in that area.

[47:45] South School doesn't have nearly enough parking, so we all park on all the side streets,

[47:50] which is terrible, but there's really no other option.

[47:53] So, not having the allotted parking for the spaces is very concerning and the other is the revenue and businesses in town.

[48:06] I think about what if the apartments at the dairy dome building did have some businesses on the bottom floor and now this apartment building come in had businesses on the bottom floor like this is what the town has been saying during the override process the last couple of years.

[48:23] There's in many public meetings is that we do want more businesses, we want to make

[48:28] store stonum more of a destination for folks coming off of the freeways.

[48:33] And so it's just important that we stick to this so that we can build that future for

[48:42] stonum.

[48:43] That's it.

[48:44] Thank you.

[48:45] Thank you.

[48:46] Yes, sir.

[48:54] Hi.

[48:54] Rodrigo Elana, style of one, four, seven, two, main street, former dairy dome.

[48:59] So similar to, you know, a lot of folks here, Mr. Chairman, thank you very much for the opportunity to speak on the matter.

[49:05] Similar, you know, the less parking is definitely concerned, you know, the kids.

[49:10] I know that, you know, so we live very close to the, you know, obviously the Main Street side.

[49:14] And I mean, some of those kids come into our driveway, you know, and they're playing around.

[49:17] So to kind of give some, you know, some context to what's, you know, what's happening there.

[49:22] And then also there was like a pickup truck that was parked like right up at the corner on Main Street in middle.

[49:26] And it got a warning and it was like there for weeks if not months and it never got moved so it's parking definitely an issue and

[49:33] You know Erica and ours and my son Dante

[49:37] He was hit by a car here in Stoneham

[49:39] And so I remember getting that phone call you don't want to get that phone call

[49:42] It wasn't in that area, but still it's like, you know definitely, um, you know concerns

[49:48] Yeah, so hard to see around the hard to see around the corner if we have you know cars there

[49:53] in the loading, you know, not having the loading area as well, just contributes to that.

[49:58] So, very good.

[49:59] So, thank you.

[50:00] Thank you.

[50:07] Hi.

[50:08] Good evening.

[50:08] I'm Erica Alana.

[50:09] I live at 472 in street where the dare to use to be.

[50:15] My main concern is twofold, and I also want to say I pretty much agree with everything

[50:22] that everybody said so far, all of the community.

[50:25] My main concerns are lack of loading area and really, really great lack of parking.

[50:38] Stoneham is a two plus car community per family.

[50:43] Pretty much every family has at least two cars, if not three or four.

[50:49] And if you're going to have two bedrooms, that implies either two adults or adults with children

[50:55] who are eventually also going to get their license, so I feel that even two spots per household

[51:05] or per unit is just barely squeaking by, you know. Everybody has two plus cars since

[51:14] Donham. My other concern is middle street is a very narrow street and there's parking on both

[51:20] side sometimes and I'm wondering how the congestion is going to be compounded if there is

[51:32] potentially going to be another driveway on the middle side street because right now there's

[51:43] definitely issues at times with our driveway which is by the way a shared driveway for eight

[51:50] different cars plus getting blocked sometimes, so that's another one of my

[51:55] concerns is with that many people coming and going are some of the driveways

[52:01] on Middle Street going to be blocked. So I mean I think it's great that they're

[52:08] building more housing and I know Stoneham needs it, but I think if you're going

[52:14] from 14 units to 24 units, you should be able to provide the parking area needed for

[52:22] those units.

[52:23] Got it.

[52:24] Thank you.

[52:25] Thank you.

[52:31] Yes, sir.

[52:44] Hello.

[52:45] Good evening.

[52:47] Ralph Burrally from Burrally Funeral Home, next door.

[52:51] I don't have any objections to this project.

[52:55] None.

[52:56] I'm in favor of it.

[52:58] My concern is, as everyone said, is about traffic and parking.

[53:03] And my other concern is, when and if this is approved, construction?

[53:08] How is that going to impact our business?

[53:11] Our business, I'm sure everyone is aware, is very sensitive.

[53:14] So when we have wakes and funerals, how much noises are going to be?

[53:17] Truck's coming in and out of there.

[53:19] Parking for wakes and funerals.

[53:23] Wakes and funerals are different times of day, seven days a week.

[53:26] We might have a wake starting in four people come in at three we may have a funeral in the morning people come in at seven seven thirty

[53:32] Construction you least arts. I think somewhere around seven o'clock in the morning

[53:36] So my concern is would you be like a police detail there with someone assist us in our business and other residents of what they've said to as far as parking is concerned

[53:46] Sometimes we have very large females and where we park and we use as much space as we can

[53:50] Again, other times we do help out the neighbors if there's parking and I don't have a wake

[53:54] or a funeral going on.

[53:56] We allow them to park at the funeral home to help ease that congestion.

[54:00] So my main concern is for everybody is talking about safety and parking, but during construction

[54:08] work I'm right next door to this, the safety of it, especially for people coming out of the

[54:14] funeral home.

[54:14] Do we have Kevin?

[54:16] No, well, yeah.

[54:18] Just what main concern for safety is.

[54:21] Sir, name an address.

[54:22] Oh, Kevin Burrillie-Burrillie, if you're on 42 Main Street.

[54:25] With regards to safety, we do have a parking lot as limited.

[54:29] We use that to the best we can.

[54:30] But a lot of people also park on both sides of Main Street.

[54:33] It's very dark crossing that intersection.

[54:36] So a lot of people use the crosswalk to cross.

[54:38] People coming off 93 go very, very fast.

[54:41] So it's more the concern of safety of people.

[54:43] residents, certainly Joel and I have two kids at both go to school system, that is one

[54:48] of our concerns. Again, it's the idea that they want to enhance the property is great.

[54:54] We support that and enhancing the town, being self-employed, having a piece of real state

[54:58] to do that. We're four. It's just the parking and the traffic is the concern. Thank you.

[55:04] Thank you.

[55:06] Thank you.

[55:07] Thank

[55:11] you.

[55:11] Sir.

[55:17] Greg Feierstone, 32 Warren Street, and I'll sign in afterwards.

[55:22] You know, I'm echoing some of the other folks here, happy to see development in the area.

[55:28] My one concern is also parking.

[55:31] I know if you have a two unit bedroom, you probably have in-laws that want to come visit.

[55:36] I'm speaking from personal experience.

[55:38] So when they come, where are they going to park or if you have people come visit, where

[55:43] Are they going to park?

[55:45] Even on Warren Street, we're fortunate that it's wide enough that we can have parking

[55:49] on both sides, but it fills up pretty quickly.

[55:52] So pretty good.

[55:53] That's all.

[55:53] Thank you.

[55:56] All right.

[55:57] Well, I think we've heard the main concerns for most people.

[56:02] I'm happy for folks to continue talking, but I guess I'd say at this point, I'd like to

[56:07] hear if there's something new or different, something that isn't, not a criticism, just

[56:12] Just I think we've covered the ground that we wanted to cover, thank you.

[56:18] I'd like to open up for some response from the applicant.

[56:27] We have a new process in stone that I didn't mention, but I'll throw it out there for now just to everybody knows what we're going.

[56:34] We have another bylaw that is in effect, although the AG has not approved it to talk about 3% of the development costs for mitigation.

[56:44] As part of that process, there'd be a traffic study done, and that's at the planning board stage for a special permit where we would find out what traffic there would be, and maybe that might be something we might consider sooner rather than later, but it doesn't come to the next step.

[56:59] Okay. As far as the concept of putting retail in here,

[57:08] Retail requires one parking space for every 300 square feet, okay, or 350 actually in this case, it would be a 350 square feet, a building for retail would require one parking space.

[57:25] If we put parking, retail instead of parking on the first floor, there's no way you'd be able to get.

[57:32] But even probably the number of units that are there now on the site.

[57:38] The parking requirement is heavy for retail.

[57:42] Retail on a site like this.

[57:45] It doesn't fit into the neighborhood.

[57:48] You're asking for a, you're asking across purposes, you're going in two different ways.

[57:53] Housing is definitely the way for this site.

[57:56] I hear the arguments about parking and not enough.

[57:59] We can take a look at that, but it's not going to be retail.

[58:03] It's not going to make any sense.

[58:05] It won't work for the neighborhood and for any new development.

[58:11] Just so you all understand, it has to work financially.

[58:17] And something's going to go here because those houses are old.

[58:20] It's time.

[58:22] And we're happy to work with the neighborhood and I like the comments.

[58:26] There are a few of you from the neighborhood.

[58:28] that some from other parts of the town, I understand the philosophy,

[58:33] but the philosophy of making more retail,

[58:38] it just doesn't work on this site.

[58:40] And I think that realistically, 100 years ago, zoning was set up and stolen, 1925.

[58:50] What you have today for retail uses is pretty much what was set up in 1925.

[58:56] It's not going to change much.

[58:59] It's already developed, so you're going to have redevelopment areas to think that retail would even work here, just doesn't make sense.

[59:08] And as far as the loading zone, loading zones are not required in central business district for residential because it doesn't need it.

[59:16] You don't need a loading zone.

[59:18] It's not like a business that needs a loading zone.

[59:20] That being said, I understand the board will listen to the concerns, and I'm listening.

[59:32] I think I'd like to recess to talk to my client a little bit about some of the ideas, just

[59:38] with the understanding that, you know, would appreciate the input, but something is going

[59:43] to go here.

[59:46] It's not like it's going to stay this way, and it can't, it can't be a mix, it just

[59:54] the site, we're talking 20,000 square feet, it's just not going to be able to be a mix.

[1:00:00] If commercial would work, my client would certainly do that, but there are no commercial new developments coming in. It's just not what we're made of now.

[1:00:16] Somebody could lighten me of a new project that's commercial that's come in. I must have been asleep at something because it hasn't happened. We'd love it to have it, yeah. But nobody, I guess, listen to the

[1:00:30] the numbers that I gave which are at the residential rate of 88,700 versus to 25,000 now,

[1:00:38] that is a substantial increase.

[1:00:40] If you put first floor retail even if you could do it, it wouldn't change the numbers significantly.

[1:00:48] It would change them, but not significantly, it's not,

[1:00:54] and I think if the town and I live

[1:00:57] here, I went to the override and all we had to do, and we did it, but that doesn't mean that

[1:01:03] that we're going to be able to change stone them to allow and have commercial, it would be great.

[1:01:07] But it's not, unless DCR of all the sudden can come out to our lab, there's no land, okay.

[1:01:14] With 4.4 square miles, if you take out DCR, we don't have the land to change the tax.

[1:01:20] You know, we're not a burlington, we're not a woven, so, and it's an area where people want to live.

[1:01:27] because of the convenience of the highways, 93, 128, the good news, the bad news, but it's

[1:01:34] going to be residential.

[1:01:36] And we don't produce kids, which is, again, good news, bad news, we get all nice new schools,

[1:01:41] and we don't produce kids with the Vision 4 and Hawking, the Vision 6 and football, we don't

[1:01:47] have kids, it's too bad, unfortunate.

[1:01:52] We built all these schools and we just don't know.

[1:01:59] We're turning kids away.

[1:02:03] It's just a second.

[1:02:04] Sorry, sorry.

[1:02:05] I understand it.

[1:02:05] No, I get it.

[1:02:07] It's a strong issue for folks.

[1:02:10] I don't worry.

[1:02:10] But I just want to give you a cool time, please.

[1:02:14] I don't go to self-school.

[1:02:15] So my grandmother did, though, the old one, obviously.

[1:02:21] So I'd like a couple of minutes to just give the experience.

[1:02:26] Is that sufficient?

[1:02:27] Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Great. Okay. Then in that case we'll take a five minute recess and then we'll read. Okay.

[1:02:33] And public hearing is still open. Postal of another chance to talk if they look. No, you're all right.

[1:02:38] All right.

[1:02:40] I'm free to take a little break folks.

[1:18:25] Okay, we're back on air. Okay, yeah. We've listened to the neighbors and we want to revise the plan. We would like to hear if the board has any suggestions because we're going to.

[1:18:39] Yeah, that's what I figured.

[1:18:41] I don't think so. I can see. Please, please.

[1:18:44] But can we give you another copy that's darker?

[1:18:47] I think it's an ink issue.

[1:18:48] No, it's an ink issue.

[1:18:49] It's a size.

[1:18:50] Keep in mind certain things, certain things that came up

[1:18:54] middle street.

[1:18:55] We're not going out middle street.

[1:18:57] You can look at the plan.

[1:18:59] I know it's hard to read, but you can see we're not going out

[1:19:01] on middle street.

[1:19:02] We're stipulate at all.

[1:19:04] We would stipulate that we were not and we're not.

[1:19:07] So if you take a look, you can show them the plan.

[1:19:09] and it does not go out to Middle Street.

[1:19:12] That first floor has like a garage beside that facing Main Street.

[1:19:17] That's the only exit from the parking.

[1:19:20] And we're not from Main Street and there's no exit on top.

[1:19:24] The main street is to enter into it.

[1:19:25] Yes, both ways.

[1:19:27] Yes.

[1:19:34] Is it trash here?

[1:19:35] It's the roll-off cancer.

[1:19:38] Oh, the barrels for what we could put in the Main Street, I mean that.

[1:19:43] Just one day.

[1:19:43] I don't even know if we're going to have our own trash pick, we might even have our own

[1:19:47] trash pick.

[1:19:48] Yeah.

[1:19:49] We're going to have our own trash pick up anyway.

[1:19:54] If we inside the garage, I mean, a lot of this stuff is still going to be designed, and this

[1:19:59] is a three-step process, it's just a first round, and we've heard a lot of input.

[1:20:06] Yeah.

[1:20:10] So does the boy have any thoughts on that?

[1:20:12] I mean, which if you're late, no, no, middle street, I get that, that makes sense to us.

[1:20:18] That's why we designed it to go out main.

[1:20:20] And keep in mind that first level is not apartments.

[1:20:22] It's actually, even though it's screened with a foot side, it's, it's parking.

[1:20:28] Yeah.

[1:20:28] And that, that pretty much has to stay even though we can make more, yeah, yeah, we can make

[1:20:34] three.

[1:20:35] Yeah.

[1:20:36] Yeah.

[1:20:36] We can make more parking.

[1:20:37] But it has to pretty much go under.

[1:20:39] This here with the trash is that next is out to metal, out to metal but it can easily be

[1:20:45] by that I did get this concern.

[1:20:48] Yeah, so that's a good point.

[1:20:51] But we think we do our own trash anyway, right?

[1:20:54] I mean, that makes sense.

[1:20:56] Yeah, I guess it was point.

[1:20:59] Yeah, that's a good point.

[1:21:00] Anything else that we think that might?

[1:21:03] Well I mean I know that this is you've already talked about it so this may not go

[1:21:13] anywhere at all but the idea of I understand what you said Mr. Oden that the

[1:21:19] idea of any retail space is at odds with the need for parking right pretty much

[1:21:24] croaks it in my opinion understood although you know my my we're here talking

[1:21:31] about parking appearances at any rate so we're forgiving a little we can forgive a lot

[1:21:36] in theory yeah and I would put it out to you to consider what I've seen in other locations

[1:21:42] not necessarily in stone in other towns and other experiences that I've had of you know

[1:21:47] a very small portion of the first floor being on the main street being a retail space

[1:21:52] photo like 290 main street that we as an example yeah not prescribing anything for the

[1:22:01] applicant but something to consider as you're looking at the plans.

[1:22:05] That area was about 33,000 square feet.

[1:22:09] Most of it was for the building build.

[1:22:12] This is 20,000 but we're going to start from scratch.

[1:22:16] All right, just a thought consider it does not help with the parking but you know one could

[1:22:27] make the argument that if we don't need that much parking, you wouldn't need that.

[1:22:31] Yeah. Yeah.

[1:22:33] All right. Anybody else have any? I think I agree. I mean, we heard a lot of

[1:22:39] neighbors at the parking and the obviously the entrance on and off main street was a big

[1:22:44] percent. So do I understand that your plan would be to continue to next month and submit

[1:22:51] a new plan? I don't know if we'd have enough time for that. So the question would be, I

[1:22:58] I think we're better off with Theran without prejudice and starting over.

[1:23:02] That's what I would think.

[1:23:03] And resummit.

[1:23:04] Yeah.

[1:23:05] And then everybody get no notice of a new project.

[1:23:09] That way it's cleaner, I think.

[1:23:12] Okay.

[1:23:13] Obviously, the board has to, okay, yeah.

[1:23:15] We really have a motion, and yeah, but of course.

[1:23:17] Okay, so just so folks understand, because they may not be familiar with that.

[1:23:22] The applicants requesting withdrawal without prejudice, which means we essentially pretend

[1:23:26] this never happened.

[1:23:27] And there's a, this project goes away, and what comes before us would be a new submission, a new application, whatever that turns out to be.

[1:23:39] And maybe very similar to this, it may be very different from this.

[1:23:42] Yes, sir.

[1:23:42] Just for question, I mean, it's for my own knowledge.

[1:23:45] In the area, is it permitted to have another ground garage?

[1:23:50] It's permitted, yes.

[1:23:52] So it's a matter of the constructions to consider it or not, in order to solve the issue of the number.

[1:23:59] The construction building code costs all kinds of factors, but that's not a specific,

[1:24:05] that's not a zoning prohibition.

[1:24:07] It's not prohibitive, it's not our, yes, it's not our lookout on that,

[1:24:13] okay.

[1:24:14] So with that being said, I would make a motion to allow the applicant to withdraw without prejudice.

[1:24:21] and that way you can resummit.

[1:24:23] Have you notified us to what the new project would be?

[1:24:27] I think it would be.

[1:24:28] The benefit of everybody in this board.

[1:24:32] Very good.

[1:24:32] So move.

[1:24:33] Second.

[1:24:34] Seconded.

[1:24:34] Call the roll, Mr. Sullivan.

[1:24:36] Hi.

[1:24:36] Mr. McLaughlin?

[1:24:37] Yes.

[1:24:37] Mr. Ruben?

[1:24:38] Yes.

[1:24:38] Mr. Dufor?

[1:24:39] Yes.

[1:24:39] And the chair is in favor.

[1:24:41] Thank you.

[1:24:41] We'll look forward to it.

[1:24:43] Thank you all for coming out.

[1:24:44] Appreciate it.

[1:24:45] I have one.

[1:24:52] Before we talk can I just get I want no you're good please feel to I will close the meeting and then feel free

[1:24:58] So I do make a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn second all in favor of adjournment say aye. We're adjourned good night

Stoneham Board of Appeals 2-26-26

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