[0:00] That's to

[1:09] get the room situated and we'll get started.

[1:47] I'm calling this October 8, 2024 council meeting to order. We will start the

[1:56] the pledge of allegiance led by council member Kim is so please stand and then remain standing

[2:04] for the invocation by a rubbering bobby von Kelser, the pastor of building faith church.

[2:10] It will start with the pledge of allegiance.

[2:15] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it

[2:22] one nation under God in the visible with a degree in justice for all.

[2:34] First and foremost I'd like to thank Brad for having me down in my first cousin, our

[2:39] second cousin and mayor of Straussburg. Don't hold that against her.

[2:43] But I'm Pastor Bobby Funkhalzer building Faith Church at Mount Hebron.

[2:47] He was educated here in Straussburg called this my hometown and enjoy this town very much.

[2:53] So first of all, I'd like to say a few things about the Pledge of Allegiance, it says in

[2:58] there that it's one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[3:04] Indivisible means that we're undivided, that we're rock solid, that we stand together.

[3:10] And I think a lot of times we all forget about that, because we stand together, we stand

[3:15] together through Jesus Christ, our Lord, and Savior as well.

[3:18] So let us bow our heads for the prayer.

[3:21] Heavenly Father, we come to you this beautiful, beautiful October evening.

[3:25] Thank you so much, Lord, for the blue sky, for the sunshine, for the green grass, and for

[3:29] the rain that you brought to this valley to ease the drought.

[3:33] Lord, we thank you for protectiness from the storms.

[3:36] We pray for all those that was affected by the storm and those that will be affected again,

[3:41] where we send out our heartfelt thanks to all those who respond to help those people, and

[3:47] know Lord that you're looking after each and every one of them. I know that I have two from

[3:52] my church that are lying in it or restoring power who is now in Miami and station there

[3:57] until the storm is over so they're in harm's way, protect them as they go forward as well.

[4:03] But for this meeting tonight, Lord, let us be undividible. Let us be rock solid. We might have

[4:10] differing opinions and we might not feel the same way about every topic, but we are united

[4:14] through Jesus Christ through your Son. Help us to come together for the best of all what is best for

[4:20] everybody. Let us not be selfish and our thoughts. Let us be open-minded and be able to be changed or

[4:27] persuaded to believe in something that we just might not quite always believe in. But what is best

[4:32] for all is what we're looking for. Be with this counsels, they go forward, bless them, bless their families,

[4:38] bless all of us, Lord, and keep the safe as we go through these storms and these ridges and valleys

[4:43] in our life that come out so very often. Thank you again Lord for the loving arms that you surround

[4:49] us with and for your loving grace that you put on each and every one of us. And together we all say

[4:54] amen.

[5:08] Thank you.

[5:09] Mayor Bois.

[5:11] Vice Mayor Macquarie.

[5:13] Councilman louder.

[5:15] Councilman Kimment.

[5:16] Here.

[5:17] Councilman Houser.

[5:19] Councilman Monahan.

[5:21] Councilman Carter.

[5:22] Here.

[5:22] Councilman Woodson.

[5:23] Here.

[5:24] Councilman Stover.

[5:26] I'll count to four seconds.

[5:28] Thank you.

[5:29] Next, I'd like to ask the Council to consider an addition to the agenda, our

[5:34] The look of council has been retired for what all the week and we admit.

[5:38] The item on the agenda.

[5:41] The item in question is the reimbursement to the fire department for the replacement

[5:46] of the doors.

[5:48] I have a motion.

[5:49] Council member Kimnits.

[5:50] I move to act consideration of the straws were going to volunteer fire department reimbursement

[5:54] for the door replacement project to the agenda under old business.

[5:58] There is second.

[6:00] Second.

[6:01] Thank you council member Carter.

[6:02] All in favour, signify by saying aye.

[6:07] Aye.

[6:08] Any questions?

[6:13] Next we have the introduction and recognition of visitors and guests we're going to begin with

[6:20] a special recognition presentation for the Straussburg Police Department.

[6:26] She's saying her.

[6:27] Thank you.

[6:31] Tonight I'd like to recognize two cases.

[6:35] The hard work.

[6:35] not only the ladies and gentlemen that are here, but the entire agency.

[6:42] On July 3, 2023, the Strauss-Root Police Department responded to a private

[6:46] residence on Pleasant View Drive and responded to an unmedical emergency.

[6:52] Upon arrival, it was determined that the victim was deceased and expired because of

[6:57] violent attack involving an edge weapon.

[7:01] The initial stages of the investigation were extremely labor intensive.

[7:04] They utilized countless resources, including all sworn officers of the Schroesbury Police Department and other neighboring jurisdictions.

[7:13] The overall process of addressing the crime scene for the presence of evidence continued during overnight hours.

[7:20] And well went to the following morning.

[7:22] After the crime scene was processed, the investigation continued around the clock, approximately four days later.

[7:28] The perpetrator was identified and apprehended in the suburbs of the Solisbury, Maryland.

[7:33] This investigation included our detected division and two additional sworn officers with

[7:38] investigative experience along with the Frederick County Sheriff's Office.

[7:42] Assistance was also sought from the Delaware State Police, Maryland State Police, as the

[7:47] offender was visiting relatives in Maryland and Delaware where she was located.

[7:51] More than 280 hours of overtime, and I would have meant that has increased since we were

[7:58] just completed the trial.

[8:01] Additional follow-up items remain still to be completed.

[8:05] The overall impact is more than seven weeks of seven regular hours were logged in over time alone.

[8:12] These hours were accrued in approximately 30-day period.

[8:15] I would like to note during the time that amount of time that these officers and tech

[8:19] have spent away from their families and loved one in the sacrifices dedication that they

[8:23] made to bring justice in this case.

[8:26] I'd like to recognize the officers and detectives and their hard work and dedication, as

[8:31] I call your name, please come forward.

[8:33] Captain Jay McDonate, Lieutenant Philip Henry, Lieutenant Cody Meade, Lieutenant Eric Rainey,

[8:41] Detective Ann and Springer, Detective George Robert Poe, and we'll like to recognize

[8:45] investigative Brandon Hayes of what a Frederick County Sheriff's Office who played a critical

[8:49] role in cell phone data and IT support from this agency and also a Frederick County Sheriff's

[8:54] office for lending us a 3D scanner, Mr. Carter, I know you're expertise, and so very expensive

[9:00] resource that we don't have, but we have partnerships that allow us to access those.

[9:04] So I'd like to recognize them, and this is a testament to their dedication, hard work and commitment

[9:08] to our community. You may have seen in the paper last week was the 5-day jury trial involving

[9:15] this case, and there was a conviction handed down by a juror of 12 on Friday, the first three murder.

[9:21] So again, praise their hard work, the hard work Commonwealth Attorney's Office to bring you

[9:26] us as a family.

[9:27] Ultimately, that's our ultimate goal.

[9:29] So again, recognize them.

[9:30] So thank you all, gentlemen.

[9:47] Thank you very much.

[9:48] Chief has passed the rest of the details of this investigation, as he could, and just want to

[9:55] let you and all know that we are very proud of you and the work that the department has done.

[10:00] And we'd love to get a picture with you all if you're amenable.

[10:03] If you're a plaques.

[10:07] Yeah, one more.

[10:09] We would like to do the second one, or would you like to do?

[10:12] Let's do it.

[10:13] Okay.

[10:14] Yes, ma

[10:16] 'am.

[10:17] So in the midst of investigating a homicide that required lots of time and travels multiple states.

[10:27] On March, I'm sorry, May 31st, 2023, the Pennsylvania State Police approached us.

[10:33] Straussburg Police Department regarding discovery of undenified skeletal remains that were in a remote

[10:39] state park in Perry County, Pennsylvania. There were found in May 27th of 2014.

[10:47] Through the extensive investigation and collaboration between special agents with the state police

[10:52] and the criminal detectives with the Straussburg Police Department, we were able to possibly

[10:56] identify the deceased and concluded that the victim had expired under violent circumstances within

[11:01] the corporate town limits of Charlesburg. Between October 12, 2012 and October April of 2013,

[11:10] also through the investigation we were able to successfully identify, locate and apprehend the perpetrator,

[11:16] as well as establishing a motive for the homicide. Our detectives had conducted countless

[11:21] in-person interviews executed two simultaneous search warrants that included assistance from

[11:28] Every sworn law enforcement officer employed by the Strauss Replace Department, as well as additional resources from other neighboring law enforcement agencies.

[11:35] A third search warrant was executed in Straussburg, Virginia on October of 2023, and there had been several other occasions where our detectives were required to travel out of state with little to no advance.

[11:48] Our detectives traveled to Louisiana to speak with the biological father and obtain the DNA sample.

[11:53] So that we could expedite the analysis of the biological evidence that is currently being

[11:58] examined at the Forentics Lab in the NASA's Virginia.

[12:01] The specifics of this investigation have enumerated over nearly 100 hours of over time

[12:06] along between three detectives and additional investigative avenues need to be explored still

[12:11] before trial.

[12:12] Charles May of 2025?

[12:17] April. April. They keep me straight. April of 2025. So they'll begin preparing

[12:22] for that trial. I would like to recognize the members of the Schroesburg Police Department.

[12:28] When I say your name, please come forward. Captain J. Magdenic, Lieutenant Philip Henry,

[12:34] Lieutenant Cody Meade, Detective Aaron Springer, and Detective George Robert Poe for your efforts

[12:40] and dedication and bringing closure to the victim's family, in this case.

[12:44] They spent countless hours working, coordinating with other jurisdictions and traveling

[12:48] to multiple states.

[12:50] We also want to thank the Pennsylvania State Police for their hard work and partnership

[12:53] through this investigation, and in both of these cases it'd be remiss that we didn't think

[12:57] town staff, the town manager, and you all for the budget that allows them the opportunities

[13:02] and training and experience that they can get to build and bring these cases again to

[13:07] Hopefully, successful prosecution and this, I would like to note out of these gentlemen, there's three of them, or graduates, other forensic academy, which is months long of intense training and experience.

[13:18] And then Lieutenant Henry has multiple forensic trainings and certifications as well. So, thank you all.

[13:49] And again, just want to recognize their families, you know, for their dedication, sacrifice, their children, you know. And again, we're so blessed to have the team that we do, and you're all support as well.

[13:59] Where would you like them, Stan?

[14:02] Right, right up here, gentlemen.

[14:54] I don't think I'll say it.

[15:19] Next,

[15:27] I'd like to invite Melody Nixon, our engagement specialist to give a report on upcoming events.

[15:35] Good evening and thank you for letting me be here just wanted to kind of update you guys on a few things that we have born on and kind of maybe big for some help

[15:45] Lots of opportunities for some volunteer

[15:49] The first one is our scarecrow stroll first ever one that we've ever had in the town and I will let you guys know we have about 20 businesses

[15:59] that have agreed to create their own scarecrow and agreed to allow people to come in and

[16:08] to see what their business is all about and then on the 26th of this month, we are having

[16:14] a trick or treat downtown. We are opening up the Pavilion for any non-profit organizations,

[16:25] people who would like to sit up and do trick or treating. We'd love to have you guys

[16:29] come join us for that night. We're also going to have opportunities to have

[16:33] pictures done with the scarecrow could be lots of fun. Then after that is our

[16:41] big one, the grilled cheese and tomato soup festival. We're still working on

[16:45] some final plans for that. But one thing that we are going to have this year is

[16:50] information booth to help people because sometimes they get a little confused as to where

[16:56] this food truck is or something. We would love for you guys to maybe sign up for a couple

[17:01] of different hours we could spread it out through the day to just be there to greet for

[17:06] people that come for this wonderful event. So I'm throwing that out there. You all know how

[17:11] to find me if you want to join up and just let me know. And then the last thing I wanted to

[17:17] about was our Veterans Day Parade, which is really starting to fall into place. We have a guest

[17:24] speaker. Thank you to Councilman Monahan, Colonel Aote, has agreed to speak. Councilman Carter

[17:32] has agreed to do the prayer and then Mayor Boise is going to be our MC for the event down at

[17:42] a billion months, the parade is over with.

[17:46] The boy scouts, the FFA have all come on board

[17:50] to walk in the parade and help hand out flags

[17:53] again this year.

[17:54] So we're super excited about how all this is coming into play.

[17:58] There will be lots of, we could use help that day too,

[18:01] if any of y'all are available to pitch in.

[18:03] That's all I have.

[18:04] Do y'all have any questions for me about any of these events

[18:07] or anything coming up?

[18:09] Thank you all so much.

[18:11] Thank you.

[18:18] Mayors, comments.

[18:20] I am not the mayor.

[18:21] I'm the vice mayor.

[18:22] The mayor is out of town at a conference for today, yesterday in tomorrow.

[18:31] So I am taking over for her tonight to leave this meeting.

[18:34] Over the weekend, she presented a resolution to the Presbyterian Church for their 200 Anniversary,

[18:47] and she asked me to share that at this meeting tonight.

[18:51] So I'm going to read that for you all now.

[18:55] It is recognizing Straussburg Presbyterian Church on its 200th Anniversary.

[19:03] Whereas Straussberg, Presbyterian Church, founded in 1824, is the oldest surviving church in Straussberg,

[19:12] serving as a cornerstone of faith and community for 200 years.

[19:18] And whereas the church was established under the leadership of Reverend Dr. William Henry Foot,

[19:24] who brought English-language services to the German-speaking residents of the Shenandoah Valley.

[19:32] And welcomed worshippers of various denominations,

[19:36] particularly during the Civil War, when it served as a hospital for wounded soldiers.

[19:42] And whereas Drausberg, Presbyterian Church, has withstood the test of time,

[19:48] undergoing numerous renovations while preserving its historical significance

[19:52] and continuing to engage in meaningful community service and outreach programs.

[20:00] And whereas with 24 pastures over its history, the church continues to thrive under the leader of Reverend David Howard,

[20:09] with approximately 90 active members and remains committed to both spiritual growth and service to the Strasbourg community.

[20:18] Now, therefore, be it resolved that the town of Straussburg congratulates Straussburg,

[20:26] Presbyterian Church, on its 200th anniversary, celebrating its rich history and ongoing

[20:33] contributions to the community and expresses heartfelt gratitude for its lasting impact.

[20:40] And be it further resolved that this resolution be presented to Straussburg Presbyterian Church

[20:46] In honor of two centuries of faithful service, and that was adopted on the six suboptim.

[20:53] I'm sorry.

[20:56] Great congratulations to this church I had.

[20:59] I was a brownie rose scout and we had our meetings in the basement.

[21:04] I was a brownie rose scout and we had our meetings in the basement.

[21:05] I was a couple of times.

[21:06] I was a couple of times.

[21:07] The one that has the pumpkin pets.

[21:12] I was just making sure it was one by the school.

[21:13] I just wanted to just mention this gratitude and good feelings, good spirit that the town has shown in the weight of the disasters that have been happening with the storm's hurricane healing that ravish communities to ourselves.

[21:42] So many groups in the area in Strasbourg and surrounding have come together to gather supplies

[21:51] and send aid and it's just really heartening and a wonderful thing to see.

[22:00] We had just tiny little taste, not even the tip of the iceberg when dead energy through

[22:07] here and that is hard.

[22:09] So, it's unimaginable what those communities are going through and I'm grateful that folks in our community have been able to step up and help.

[22:22] Let's see.

[22:23] Next we have citizen comments.

[22:27] We find my script here.

[22:30] So, if anyone would like to speak during this time, you can come to the podium.

[22:38] I don't believe we had anyone sign up to speak, but anyone would like to speak to the

[22:44] Council, have a comment for the Council.

[22:46] You may come to the podium, you would have three minutes and you just need to state your

[22:51] name and address.

[22:58] Do you have to live in town?

[23:05] This has been near and dear to my heart for a long time here in the town of Straussburg and

[23:11] the town's up down the valley and I'm just urging the the council and those members of the

[23:18] town that are responsible for water, wastewater or fresh water, the fresh water side especially

[23:25] to take a long hard look at the drought that we had last year, the drought that we had this year

[23:32] and I know the river's been up twice, the river's running full. We've had water in our basements

[23:38] and it's been raining, but it's not going to always do that.

[23:41] And I'm just fearful of what might happen upriver if there's ever a toxic spill or somebody

[23:47] gets nasty and wants to pollute the water supply, where do we go, what do we do?

[23:52] And we depend on it.

[23:54] It's life like threatening without it.

[23:56] And as I ride around, I'm honored to know that Straussburg is growing.

[24:01] I'm honored to see that we've done it in a smart way as well, but I'm not also naive to

[24:07] know that that water has to come from somewhere for those folks, and the younger generations

[24:12] that are moving into our area are near as thrifty with water as our older folks was.

[24:16] They're going to need a lot of water, and we need to have another source.

[24:20] And John Henry Rhodes, Scott Blessie, Seoul, a good man, probably can tell you where every

[24:26] water main and where every water leak and everything else in town has been, we had a long

[24:31] conversation about the mountain, the reservoir on the mountain.

[24:36] 33 million gallons of water, setting up all that mountain that's not able to be tapped

[24:40] into in the case of emergency.

[24:42] Don't know how much you would cost and I'm sure in today's terms it would be astronomical

[24:46] compared to 50 years ago, but at least that's one source that's available and could

[24:52] be readily attached into gravity-fed doesn't need a pump.

[24:55] Don't have to worry about electricity, it's going to feed down to us.

[24:59] It can be treated through the water treatment plant if we can treat the river to make

[25:02] drinkable we can treat the reservoir to make it drinkable as well. And I know there's probably

[25:07] other water sources we talk about wells that's pulling from our groundwater. Our groundwater

[25:12] in this area right now is still 15 feet below its normal stage. And if we drill wells in town

[25:19] for water and we start sucking that out of the ground then we're going to be in an deficit there as

[25:23] well. Stories is what we need. Some place to put water that when it rains like it's been rain

[25:29] and we can keep it. And we'll have it if we have to make water recreation out of it. If it means

[25:34] fishing, if it means voting, whatever it might be, that's something we need to look into.

[25:39] If it brings in a resource of money to help sustain itself, that would be wonderful to help pay for it.

[25:45] So that's just my thoughts. I've lived in Stahlsburg area all my life. I live at Mount Alaw.

[25:51] I look out my front door every day. It's signal knob mountain. And I see Stahlsburg light up at night.

[25:56] It's near and dear to my heart, but I know we have a problem, and the droughts, we could be in the same boat right now as North Carolina had that storm come in through the Chesapeake Bay, and we was setting on 30 inches of rain, 36 inches of rain.

[26:12] We could be washed out, wouldn't you be worried about water then, but you have too much, but our problem in this area has been drought more than it has been anything else.

[26:20] So just to thought, I'd like to see at least straws would do what Woodstock did, Woodstock

[26:26] formed a committee.

[26:27] They'd move someone from planning over and put them in charge of it and know you all

[26:31] have got people working on it, but I hope that you put somebody in charge to keep it in

[26:35] line.

[26:36] Thank you.

[26:40] Any other citizens, good comments, thank you for sharing the council.

[26:50] Hearing none, we will move on to our consent agenda.

[26:54] Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda?

[26:59] Thank you.

[26:59] Councilmember Kimman.

[27:00] Do I have a second?

[27:01] Councilmember Carter.

[27:04] All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

[27:06] Aye.

[27:07] Any opposed?

[27:12] All right.

[27:12] Moving on to old business.

[27:14] The first item is the skate park bid update.

[27:20] Our Rhino to Sir Director of Planning and Public Services.

[27:23] about six today, how many of your cog staff could you just in the papers?

[27:31] I can go back to the room, I believe so.

[27:36] I thought we'd start by showing this diagram.

[27:41] This is the schematic to plan for the skate park.

[27:45] When the rebid went out, we did it in two parts.

[27:51] the base bed, and then the bed alternate number one, which is outlined in the two areas of red.

[28:00] So, what's not in red is the base bed, and what's in bed takes in account the base

[28:07] of alternate bed number one. Okay. As you look through this. So, this is

[28:15] It's correct me when I get it wrong, why, please.

[28:18] These are all the numbers that came in on base bed, bed, alternate between the four companies

[28:24] that bet on this project.

[28:27] As you can see, currently, the apparent low-bedder is stone-heel construction with a base bed

[28:35] $155,830, bit alternate item of $80,960,000, and a total of $2,367.95.

[28:50] So those numbers will be important later on when we start digging into it.

[28:57] Had a conversation with the engineer to make sure through emails, to make sure,

[29:04] We had everything in the pot before we started really trying to

[29:08] sad what we could do.

[29:10] The first line item is construction administration and management.

[29:14] That's $8,500 cost.

[29:16] That's already been paid for by the committee.

[29:21] It's up there just for reference.

[29:24] Other items as part of the project would be construction materials,

[29:28] testing and inspection, especially when you do concrete.

[29:30] There's got to be a lot of tests to test in to make sure that it's to correct strength and

[29:35] intensive strength thanks to that Asia.

[29:37] Also with any project you try to have a contingency.

[29:41] For those unexpected items, you know, that you just can't know of or something you need to

[29:52] add onto it.

[29:53] So when you look at those with the base bed, that's another 30,500 dollars, your parent

[29:58] low bit or a 1.50-puff.

[30:00] 830 brains, total to 18633. Go to the alternate bed item. Same process. The only number that really goes

[30:09] up is the contingency because it's 10% of the number. So now you go up to a parent 38700 plus the bed,

[30:20] The base bed plus the alternate bed item number one, you get 236, 795 for a total of 275 for an unit type.

[30:29] So those are the two apparent low beds through this process, the beds that were opened on this past Friday.

[30:41] We know currently that the town has a $153,000 in its budget for physics to be a $20,000

[30:51] through offer funds for this project.

[30:54] The committee also has some funds that are available, but we're still close to the one

[31:00] 86, but we're not all the way there.

[31:03] What we, we're bringing these numbers to unite so you can see where the situation is.

[31:12] That's the bulk, we're having an email conversation late this afternoon about next steps.

[31:19] And we think it's best if we get the committee member, town style, the engineer,

[31:27] and as well as the individual who is offered to provide some

[31:31] income services and the contract, excuse me, can't forget the contract.

[31:36] All in the room and have some of these items out to make sure we're

[31:42] confident, you know, one thing about when you have the income, you have to make sure

[31:45] of that because if you channel that and it's not there and I'm not saying

[31:49] it wouldn't be, okay, I'll always play devils, I have to get some time.

[31:52] to what else, then that's increased as your cost, but I'm sure why I can speak of that better

[32:02] than I can. So we just wanted to show you this picture tonight, show you where the beards

[32:08] came in, and let's understand that staff, the community, the contract, the engineer,

[32:19] and the individual

[32:20] November 4th. I believe I have that date, right? Work session. Maybe we can come back and

[32:27] say, here's the money we have and here's what we can do as well as you guys may have some

[32:33] thoughts on funding or something else. I'm not, you know, just wanted to set the table where

[32:39] we are tonight and how we plan on moving forward and then listen to any feedback and discussion

[32:48] that town may have, what may have someone he'd like to have?

[32:53] Yeah, I'll just say on top of that, like you guys saw the first picture of kind of where

[32:58] we had made the cuts, the skate park is still 80% there.

[33:03] It's just all the flatwork, which made it a lot easier for the bidders to come in and do it.

[33:08] You could see like those, it seems like a small section that that was 80,000 dollars

[33:11] worth of work according to the lowest bidder.

[33:16] So, skate park still functions without those things.

[33:20] I had to push a little bit more, but that's okay.

[33:23] There are also still two obstacles in that picture on the far left

[33:27] and the far right that I can remove as well.

[33:30] If necessary that won't impede the functionality of the skate park,

[33:34] whatsoever, having finished in Winchester,

[33:37] I know around about how much those obstacles will cost.

[33:41] And if I think with the deficit that we're looking at,

[33:45] of what we've really outlined right now, like if it came, push came to show, we use all the

[33:50] contingency money and we are at maximum potential budget. I'm pretty confident that

[33:55] cutting those two obstacles, so if not just one, we'll make up for that difference, because

[34:00] one obstacle in Winchester, like a tiny little ledge. You know, maybe that tall or something like

[34:06] that was like four grand each, each time we put one in and those obstacles are like twice as big

[34:12] those. So I think just cutting one or two of those out like we're there we're within negotiation

[34:17] range with contractor. We just haven't ended on Friday. We haven't had time to sit down with

[34:22] the contractor and have those firm figures for you to present. Thank you. Why? Any questions from

[34:30] the council? I have one. How's it going? So when we first started this, you were, I'm not a skater.

[34:38] So, you were explaining how this was going to be different because a lot of skate parks are

[34:44] designed in a way that you wouldn't want to use them to design them wrong.

[34:49] With taking those additions out with it's so neat that goal, we would have something unique

[34:57] for that's different from Royal or different from Winchester.

[35:01] Yeah, those ramps that you see, I know you can't kind of see, but those are the transition

[35:04] like more half-pipe style ramps and those are the ones that I told you guys like

[35:09] unfortunately you know that's the least used stuff at the skate park those big bowls that you see

[35:15] at front royal and some other skate parks like they cost them most money and they usually are the least used

[35:21] in this case they are really small they're only about three and a half foot tall maybe five foot

[35:25] but they're really just used for maintaining your momentum at this point and like I said you would just

[35:31] to push a little bit more, but everything else is street oriented and stuff like that.

[35:35] And so this still is the opposite of what they've done over there, so it's a sought-after

[35:41] thing for sure.

[35:43] Thank you.

[35:47] So this thing is more set up for street skating and not like pool skating with the back

[35:52] of the Bay of these to be.

[35:53] Yeah, exactly.

[35:54] That's most of it.

[35:55] I mean, I really would like to eventually get that mini ramp section up in the top-right corner

[36:00] because that is a really fun thing and it's, you know, pretty tiny and stuff, but if it's

[36:06] got to go to have the larger portion of the skate park, I mean that's, like I said,

[36:10] street skating is what the majority of the people that are using the park are going to do.

[36:14] Mayor, I'm sorry,

[36:18] could those bid sections, which are our additions, though there is

[36:23] So they're classified as or that if the full thing you got that you want to see what you see is the full design of the skate park.

[36:35] In order because, as you can remember, we came back with a bed and they were severely over the budget.

[36:44] Staff and why it and some people got together with the engineering said, how can we frame this bed to at least have some options.

[36:52] And what you have is what's not in red is the base, which comes to the number in the

[37:00] blue.

[37:00] Everybody bet on what's in the red is in the pinkest red bed.

[37:07] So you bet on two separate things that come together and form the hole which is in the green.

[37:14] But when you award a bid, you can go on the base bid because that's the minimum we'll call it.

[37:28] So if you select the base bid, then you don't get the items outlined in red with this particular bid.

[37:38] You can opt to do that, of course, if you have the funding.

[37:44] Would that, could those be added later?

[37:46] Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the way that, it'll have to be discussion with the engineer

[37:50] of like, all right, like we probably won't dig out where the mini ramp section would go during

[37:56] the excavation process, if we know ahead of time we're not going to be able to afford that.

[38:01] Um, but in my mind, it's like, if there's 15 grand worth of contingency,

[38:09] and we come to

[38:11] the end of the discussion, everybody's on the same page. Okay, we didn't use that money. Well,

[38:14] maybe then we start adding those pieces back and things like that. But I mean, at this point,

[38:20] I look at this, we still got the nonprofit. It's still there. We can always raise money at a later date

[38:26] and start re-adding to that stuff.

[38:31] Why, well, the portions where those other ramps are,

[38:33] will there at least be a slab there that can still be of use?

[38:37] Um, so, I think I've got to talk to the engineers about that,

[38:44] because you can see where that kind of cuts in a little bit.

[38:46] Okay.

[38:47] On the top right, it eats a little bit of the runway

[38:51] for like the biggest section.

[38:54] I don't know if that's super detrimental, where we might have a discussion where, hey, let's just go ahead and pour flat concrete there.

[39:01] Just depending on how long it is, because that's part of the conversation, too.

[39:06] How far off are we? If that's the first priority, if it doesn't get built, that's the first priority.

[39:14] It's like, all right, well, we don't want to have to then deconstruct something later.

[39:19] Um, but yeah, like for the most part, like you still have almost all of the flagron, I think necessary to use it.

[39:27] It's not exactly to scale, but I mean, or this is to scale, but it's like, you can kind of see where that red line is all the way to that first, maybe where the stair set is kind of in the middle.

[39:39] Um, and you have some of those marks. You got like 30 to 40 feet of runway, maybe a little bit less, which is still enough for defunction.

[39:49] Well

[39:57] questions, tell a manager, can you go back, I would just like to see the bids again.

[40:06] Is there any concern that they came in so much lower?

[40:13] I assume you'll look at their portfolio and make sure they're.

[40:17] I had a conversation with the engineers today about that, because asking them, because it's kind of part of their project.

[40:24] to tell us that we've got a responsive and responsible better and they gave me the green light on

[40:31] that today felt that this company was fine to do this work. Now we do want to have the

[40:37] sit down and have this discussions to say, you know, just make sure everybody's comfortable,

[40:44] but also maybe a couple of things Mr. Baud is mentioned about bringing out to get us to the budget

[40:50] we're trying to seek to get to, unless that's modified.

[40:54] Just to add to the way we release, they stopped by on Friday, and they saw on WHSB.

[41:00] They saw the guy that talked to Jerry Martin, he's the, I guess, owner engineer, he seemed

[41:05] to actually just want to do it because of what it was, not to make money, that was the impression

[41:11] that he gave.

[41:12] You did not speak that, this is the impression he gave.

[41:14] Oh, so, thank you.

[41:16] So this just means we're really just two grand off the mark. I mean, or whatever it is, like on the base one, on the base.

[41:26] Yeah, but then you have to add in contingencies. So, yeah, don't forget about it.

[41:30] Because you never go with the lowest, but everything costs.

[41:32] to be $1.86.

[41:34] The $1.86 is what, currently, you'd

[41:40] realize what I'm going to call it, the other calls,

[41:44] soft calls, and then you have the bid at $1.55.

[41:47] You come up to $1.86, break time.

[41:50] Yeah, I got you.

[41:50] And we probably have in the ballpark of $1.70, yeah.

[41:56] We have $20,000 sitting.

[42:00] So we're not going to call it Mark here.

[42:02] Yeah, we're not far off the mark to put it in perspective like one of the things that the

[42:07] site work doesn't include is the stone base, but we've had multiple offers from multiple

[42:14] places to donate that stone base over the years. We've just never like known when to tell them to

[42:19] drop it off or learn to drop it off. So within the cost analysis and everything that's at least

[42:25] a $10,000 donation that seems to be on the table, there's a lot of things that people have

[42:31] offer to us that we've not been able to necessarily like insert yet, but now we can finally

[42:36] start having those conversations with those people. So there's a lot of ways to kind

[42:41] of gain back that ground. I think we're off by like 13 now right now we're now.

[42:46] Start King Island all the different between the estimated project total with the base bid and

[42:52] what we believe we have town and committee funding for. And that's why we want to sit down with

[43:00] group and say, hey, contract or, you know,

[43:06] experts telling me that know about this type

[43:10] of thing.

[43:10] How do we make up that 13 of, you know, can we, as Mr. Baller is indicated, if they're

[43:18] stoned in there, can you contact us and say, okay, if you help us by this stone, that's

[43:23] 4,000, not 5,000.

[43:25] That's why we want to have that conversation to see if we can get to a mutually agreeable number.

[43:30] All right.

[43:33] I'll just remember what's in it.

[43:34] I'll be honest with you.

[43:35] I personally love it just because I mean the kids need something.

[43:39] And it's like we have the library and, you know, we got lakes and rivers and stuff like that.

[43:45] But I mean, I'm personally just, I'm tip of the death by hate.

[43:48] But I'm just glad to see the numbers.

[43:52] Love them on again.

[43:54] Why do you think that some of the, some of the people who have just offered that you'll be able to reach out to them,

[44:00] before you meet with the town manager.

[44:05] But with the stone, and to start this conversation,

[44:09] so have that going into the meeting.

[44:10] Right, I spent the last two weeks

[44:12] calling contractor, trying to get them to bid.

[44:15] So yeah, I'm feeling you did that.

[44:17] Yeah, well, unbelievably, it's like been like,

[44:19] I think one of them participated.

[44:20] I mean, all the effort it was kind of crazy

[44:23] how few people really did it, but at the end of the day,

[44:26] we got the amount of bits we needed, so it's all worth it.

[44:30] But I have a lot of contacts and then just past conversations where I've got those people's

[44:35] names noted and stuff like that, I think you can go.

[44:38] And I think Vice Mayor had a question and was like, oh, what about this number?

[44:41] It seems so much lower.

[44:44] Just to kind of put this in perspective, and Winchester, I broke out the square footage of

[44:52] like what we did there versus what we're doing here, this number is that we're getting

[44:58] with this company's bid.

[45:00] It's right in line with about how much that cost. So that's kind of proof. Yes, it can be done for that cost. This is not completely off the mark.

[45:12] This is really exciting. Thanks to you in the committee for continuing to put in so much work.

[45:19] I mean, I think we have also been supportive and, you know, yeah, we're really glad that

[45:27] this, it seems to be, it seems to be working in our favor to go for the second bid and yeah,

[45:35] I'll go that way on my way past.

[45:38] Yeah, so it'd be our intent to work this schedule and meeting so we can bring back some clear

[45:44] information maybe some clear direction that you know them the fourth

[45:48] work session.

[45:50] That's what we're still, right?

[45:52] I'm going to ask you some of the way we're...

[45:55] We need, I just need to be reminded.

[45:57] We need to be actually...

[45:59] This is the date that we have to have this one now.

[46:03] We have to have this.

[46:05] The puns allocated from the town's perspective about these in the 31st.

[46:09] It's similar to the river.

[46:10] So if we signed contract, if we come back with some data, some items, what we've

[46:25] worked in where they are, then it's just a decision at that point by cancel, which could

[46:32] happen then it's a regular November meeting, and then we have over a month to get a contract

[46:37] execute it, and then that would take care of the fund in source.

[46:43] Okay.

[46:44] That's another card.

[46:45] And I just want to give thanks to Wyatt and the committee for putting this out there.

[46:49] To me, this is a net benefit to our community.

[46:53] I grew up skateboarding, friends, things.

[46:56] It was such a good thing to bring guys together, guys and girls together to skate.

[47:01] And I'm just so thankful that you guys have not quit.

[47:05] I know the mountain's been steep, but you guys keep pushing.

[47:09] So I'm thankful for that effort and I just say keep pushing.

[47:12] Thanks.

[47:20] Next on the agenda is the Clean Street Cemetery update.

[47:25] I'm going to turn this over to town attorney.

[47:30] Not a whole lot to update you on.

[47:33] I'm actually trying to get scheduled a meeting with a very interested individual.

[47:41] And she's followed up with me and we've been in contacts that she has a lot of historical

[47:48] information about the site herself that I'm hoping she can maybe help me actually find

[47:55] some of the perhaps missing pieces that I'm running into.

[48:00] What I need to ultimately, I think we're going to end up needing to do is probably going to

[48:04] order, you know, speak with Waverly or Mr. Otis one, and get a site survey for the platform

[48:11] to be drawn up. And once, once we have that, then I think we'll be able to move forward

[48:17] on the actual petition itself. I've been trying to get, I guess, uncover some of the, there's

[48:27] just not a whole lot of records that I'm able to find otherwise. And so I think we're just

[48:31] have to figure out the plot, get a design layout that we're kind of for the area that we're

[48:39] proposing to take so that we can attach that to the position. Other than that, and I think

[48:44] my conversation is, is that she's been, we've been emailing back and forth, she's actually

[48:48] wants to come to my office and sit down with me so we're in the process of scheduling that for

[48:55] hopefully next week. I'm sure she'll have a lot of them for me.

[49:02] Thank you for having those meetings and digging for that information. Any questions for

[49:08] town attorney home on this item?

[49:15] Thank you for that update. Next.

[49:19] This big shop regulations update again with town attorney Mike.

[49:25] And I'm not sure where we left this on the last time, and I know that Mr. Otis and I have kind of been discussing this quite a bit.

[49:34] When the legislature passed the statute, it's 15 to 912.4 for those taken notes.

[49:43] Basically, they said essentially that you can regulate these stores, these hemp stores,

[49:51] the nicotine, retail locations for these tobacco vapes, lots of vapes, and they specifically

[49:56] defined it as a thousand linear feet of a child-day care center public-private-procure

[50:01] school,

[50:04] and that's essentially it.

[50:08] And so my opinion, and I know we've kind of been bouncing around on whether or not there's any other avenues of restrictions, any other kind of things we can do.

[50:18] I really think when they specifically gave us these limitations, Dillon rule kind of says, hey, this is your authority?

[50:26] And that's that.

[50:27] Normally, we have inherent police powers that says you can regulate for purpose of health safety welfare.

[50:34] But we're also restricted into the same guys as saying,

[50:37] but when we tell you you can do something, you're kind of limited into what you can only do.

[50:43] And so we do have inherent authority, but when they specifically limited or give in you authority,

[50:48] you're inherent authority kind of goes away.

[50:50] And so it's not clear as to whether or not that's still under our zoning power, whether or not we could still potentially get into some other areas of regulation,

[51:01] number of shops, that's sort of thing, but it seems to be that would be discriminatory in nature to valid business shops that are regulated, just like anything else.

[51:14] So, like them don't like them, it's what it is, I think, at this point.

[51:20] And I don't know if Brian and I have exchanged notes back and forth a couple of times on the possibility

[51:28] of our, with the ordinances, under to talk about signage.

[51:35] And I think on the last version, actually, I don't think that this is actually the last

[51:39] I think we've actually discussed removing some of the transparency language under the signage.

[51:47] Primarily due to concerns that we could end up running a file again of that this is not a uniform application of our zoning walls for any other similarly situated business.

[52:05] And so actually, I think that one, I think the version on the screen might not be the most recent that he and I have exchanged.

[52:14] So just FYI, because again, that's part of the debate that we're having, whether or not it's a valid, whether or not there's a valid interest that that is addressing.

[52:34] that wouldn't otherwise apply to other similarly situated businesses.

[52:40] You don't have that restriction on alcohol.

[52:44] You don't have it on other types.

[52:46] So, any other stores that sell items that could be considered harmful or dangerous,

[52:50] gun stores, that sort of thing, is just doesn't apply.

[52:54] So, you get into the question why just these types of stores.

[52:58] And unless we have that good rationale and authority to say,

[53:03] because it addresses this particular issue.

[53:07] It's arguably disturbing.

[53:11] Councilmember Monahan.

[53:13] So under, I just devil's advocate.

[53:17] So under, what is one of the screen right now?

[53:21] If our other businesses are under,

[53:26] we wouldn't around and measured the tending on box office.

[53:29] and they fell under the less than 50 percent role. We could put that into our general regulation

[53:39] as everyone in town has to follow that and then it would meet that transparency guideline

[53:45] correct, and then we wouldn't be discriminatory. Again, if we had, we'd still have to be able

[53:50] to point to the valid, what is your, what's the rationale?

[53:56] If our officers can drive by and

[53:58] inside any establishment than they, it possibly helps them protect the citizens to see what's going on.

[54:07] If you have a jargon, somebody that has a gun in box office, where Nancy's, they can actually

[54:14] see that when they're driving by.

[54:18] And, inherently, I agree. I think fundamentally, the question

[54:22] becomes, is that a valid exercise of a town's authority versus a business enterprise is decision

[54:28] safety and security, and that's the competing interest there.

[54:36] And again, this is a discussion, we've had, back to court, I can see the ballot exercise.

[54:42] I think it's, if we were to consider a planet universally, hey, if you are a forward-facing

[54:50] business located on Main Street within the town, then we'd ask that all that your glass

[54:58] display, your forward facing windows have at most of 50 percent tents so that they can

[55:06] for purposes of, you know, law enforcement to be able to see, to be able to encourage,

[55:12] but again, you know, AB, a lot of these aren't going to be probably forward facing businesses

[55:19] looking at on the industry either, but again, maybe. But if we were instituted something like that,

[55:25] It would only be for new businesses beyond that point

[55:28] that would have to stick to that.

[55:29] Well, because everything else would,

[55:31] that's a great part of all it is.

[55:32] Yeah, you grandfathered it.

[55:35] Good thing you would get.

[55:37] And again, the privacy of patronage, for instance,

[55:43] lawlessness, from my business, I want, I don't want people

[55:48] necessarily to be able to look into see who my clients

[55:50] are sitting in the lobby.

[55:52] So I may intentionally want to black out my windows

[55:54] in order to say that somebody can't just walk by and be like, oh John's in there saying

[55:58] the lawyer, what's he doing? Do you have been charged with this?

[56:04] So there are valid reasons at times that some businesses cancel in offices, privacy

[56:09] concerns that could trigger and say, hey, we need a greater than 50% and we don't want

[56:16] people to see who's in here. So again, maybe you could build in those exceptions. But again,

[56:22] And you're talking about crafting a much bigger order than policy than this, again.

[56:29] So it just becomes a question of, okay, where do we, how big do we want to create as

[56:35] a, what's the need, where do we go with it?

[56:39] And so that's my concern when I look at this and I'm like, okay, we're targeting one business,

[56:43] is that fair to do just due to the nature of the business and is it addressing a value

[56:49] concern?

[56:49] I can see absolutely. I could see it. I think other jurisdictions some jurisdictions have passed it before they passed this update on the regulations before they passed this statute.

[56:59] And I've seen it in another jurisdiction where they said, hey, if you're going to have, you got to have a certain level of tint on your windows kind of thing.

[57:06] Would they hold up to challenge?

[57:08] I don't know.

[57:10] When was that new regulation passed?

[57:12] This talked about this was in 2024 so it was just that. It's recent. Yeah, it just it just happened

[57:21] It looks like April fifth of this year.

[57:31] Yeah

[57:32] I guess

[57:34] What I'm hearing because we have these state laws state codes that kind of I'm kind of just reiterating what you already said like

[57:45] spell out

[57:47] And legally is what we, how we are to treat these types of businesses.

[57:52] It's really tricky to attempt to do anything more.

[58:00] Pretty much.

[58:00] Basically, the legislature has acknowledged through this code.

[58:04] They heard, I think, a lot of zoning jurisdictions say,

[58:07] Hey, what can we do?

[58:09] We're concerned about the number of these businesses.

[58:11] We're concerned about these businesses popping up.

[58:14] And they're putting these flashy signs, and they're right out here, and these kids look

[58:17] at it, and they go, oh, candy.

[58:21] And so their response right now is simply, okay, don't put them within a thousand feet of

[58:28] a school.

[58:29] Don't put them within a public private, appropriate school, a daycare center, that sort

[58:35] of thing.

[58:35] Keep them away from those sensitive eyes.

[58:39] Other than that, that's about all we're getting.

[58:43] And so until, you know, and we're trying to address in this definition, of course, we're going ahead and starting to get into the classifications with, you know, recreational substances.

[58:54] Because obviously, you know, depending on how the marijuana legislation continues to move forward and kick in, I guess next year or so whenever that comes in a play.

[59:06] I haven't looked at it recently, but that's going to be another moving factor in how they're

[59:13] going to continue to regulate that industry and these stores that are kind of setting themselves

[59:18] up to be more dispensary based.

[59:22] So that's why we're at least trying to address some of that, at least for where we can

[59:26] Please park them for now.

[59:36] Additional comments.

[59:40] Vice-apposed.

[59:41] You know, Mr. Otis will continue to refine this section.

[59:48] We'll have another opportunity to review.

[59:51] See how we feel about it.

[59:54] Give additional comment.

[59:57] Mr. Otis.

[59:58] Can you limit?

[1:00:00] Where these things go, because, say, doesn't match the historic district in our case.

[1:00:06] Can you limit it, like, potentially do something that, you know, for the historic, over, like, out of area, I think we could probably

[1:00:14] We could probably consider something to that effect, potentially.

[1:00:18] Depends on, and I haven't looked at it recently to say, specifically, what are the historic district

[1:00:24] requires or provides as far as the retail establishments, so I can't answer that specifically,

[1:00:31] but generally, yes, you can kind of funnel them into through your zoning and kind of

[1:00:38] early districts in what you're doing or even change the, if you create in an overlay that

[1:00:47] within certain areas, they have to look or a certain way, certain all buildings have to have

[1:00:53] whatever type of facade, no neon lights,

[1:00:57] and that sort of thing, you can of course do that

[1:00:59] within certain districts and areas that,

[1:01:02] so that if a business was going to park itself

[1:01:04] into an area, they just have to comply

[1:01:06] and have to look like a generic store

[1:01:09] that just isn't advertising CBD and cratum or whatever,

[1:01:16] stuff that they always put on,

[1:01:18] because those are the big things that they put on the windows.

[1:01:22] So, yeah, so you could potentially, and that's through, and again, you get into sign regulations and that's sort of thing, you know, window displays and all of that comes into play about the first amendment issues and what you're, and again, are you, where are you addressing what signs are you, you know, and usually that comes into size and, you know, number and dimensions and all of that.

[1:01:44] I think the thing is, you know, we talked about the box office brewery in that being able to,

[1:01:49] that being essentially a recreational term, something to say, but it's not garrish.

[1:01:55] It's not loud.

[1:01:57] It's not in a fits within our case, the town decor.

[1:02:02] Things like that.

[1:02:03] I guess that's one of my biggest arguments is it just detracts from an area.

[1:02:10] So, you know, again, Devil's Advocate would say, you know, some would come in to say,

[1:02:16] oh, you've got a, you've got a pub in the middle of time.

[1:02:20] That's, ooh, what is that?

[1:02:23] I can't believe you're promoting, you know, out the whole of you,

[1:02:26] by, you know, having a pub or in the middle of your, in the middle of your mainstream,

[1:02:30] across from town hall.

[1:02:31] This isn't the 1980s anymore.

[1:02:35] And CBD users would say the same thing, hey look, your drug was alcohol choice, minus

[1:02:42] CBD.

[1:02:44] And I need to place the buy it, the same as you need to place to go drink it.

[1:02:48] And so, yes, has their marketing been designed in such a way as to be a flashy and attentive

[1:02:56] seeking?

[1:02:58] Will it calm down one day?

[1:03:00] Who knows?

[1:03:00] But right now yeah, is it is it kind of ugly on a face sure because that's their marketing approach

[1:03:06] But that's a marketing issue that has nothing to do with a regular tour issue. That's brandy

[1:03:13] Right

[1:03:15] And they're still within retail category. No, there's someone there's someone a perfectly legal retail product

[1:03:22] Same as well or a dollar

[1:03:24] same as dollar general category

[1:03:26] So it's it's it's a don't use I mean it it's it's regulated industry

[1:03:33] It's heavily related.

[1:03:35] Just like alcohol.

[1:03:37] It's again.

[1:03:38] These are all heavily regulated, but as far as the ability to operate and sell them.

[1:03:45] Sorry, it's my honor.

[1:03:46] Yeah, I guess they do have the own category.

[1:03:49] Now, under this revised language, the recreational substances.

[1:03:54] Is there a category where?

[1:03:56] So then we could actually exclude them in the downtown area, because the reason why we couldn't

[1:04:01] four was because they were retail. They were retail establishment, but if they have their

[1:04:07] own category, when we go through the UDO. We're defining it. We're defining it separately.

[1:04:14] Oh, we are not not the state of Virginia. Well, the state defines it as not designing roles.

[1:04:20] Any locality may by ordinance regulate the retail sale of tobacco products,

[1:04:25] nicotine, labor products. Again, it's a retail sale. It's a retail business.

[1:04:27] So it's still underrated. We're defining it under here as recreational substances for purposes

[1:04:31] of Arizona in order. Just like the adult stuff you mentioned, the only way you can have,

[1:04:40] they have the same, probably, languages, 84, 516, 1 by 1,000 feet. I remember back 30 years

[1:04:50] ago, the whole conversation about, no-wise, it's only known to have anything about adult

[1:04:55] books always love it. So, it was retail. The same thing we're sitting here talking

[1:05:01] about tonight. But it's 30 years ago. So, everybody had to go change their zone in

[1:05:07] the one that's to have, to have the time for non-profit basically. You know, you know, whether

[1:05:12] it's book stores, whether it's Tesla, or not, novelties, whatever you, everybody had to do

[1:05:19] that. Because before that, it was, it's retail. So, we're going to define it and we're

[1:05:25] to put some parameter to zone it and literally clearly time what that means. It's kind of

[1:05:31] what we're doing with this saying recreational substance establishment. We're saying that's

[1:05:38] not the jewelry store down the street. But again that's where the code of Virginia has kicked

[1:05:45] in and only allowed us to regulate it within a certain, within a distance of certain,

[1:05:50] which is exactly what they did back 30 years ago and actually what they did.

[1:05:55] And so I think as it continues as our laws continue to catch up to the products, that's always the case, right?

[1:06:05] You know, there was a few years ago they had the, I don't even, it's a K, it's a K2, I think is what it was.

[1:06:17] Not a K-1, that's a X-Y1, K-2, and they were all in these little stores all of

[1:06:23] something. They just popped up everywhere, and, you know, of course, the laws had to catch up,

[1:06:29] and start regulating and say, hey, you know, that eventually they all caught up and

[1:06:35] kicked them all off because that stuff was just, you know, killing people or whatever it was doing.

[1:06:40] I remember the person we got in mentally ill because of the stuff.

[1:06:45] And so it's just crazy.

[1:06:47] But that's what takes time.

[1:06:49] And so right now, they've given us the authority

[1:06:50] to give some regulation limits on the locations.

[1:06:53] They haven't given us a lot more.

[1:06:55] But I think as the situation ensures, and I think,

[1:06:59] as you give more local governments really

[1:07:01] trying to pinpoint how we can move these things around,

[1:07:03] how we can regulate through our zoning walls,

[1:07:05] and where we can kind of shift them

[1:07:07] and develop maybe these types of areas that say, hey,

[1:07:11] this is where we're going to put this type of industry.

[1:07:12] That's I think we can move into that direction. It's just a matter of kind of figuring out how others whether it's overlay

[1:07:20] Distance or whatever it's going to be to establish that so would you say under section two if it didn't say

[1:07:29] Recreation substance assessments shall meet these but if you set all retail such as the jewelry store had to meet a

[1:07:37] small ass Model to it be permitted

[1:07:39] If everybody had to do that, I would be more comfortable if we were to establish that.

[1:07:51] And again, if we connected it to a valid, you know, concern or law enforcement purpose or whatever.

[1:08:01] And again, we still have to create exemptions and exceptions, I think, for certain, you know, privacy, right, and actions.

[1:08:14] And like I said, you're certain professional businesses in particular that get into those types of things.

[1:08:20] So you're going to have exemptions if we do.

[1:08:22] That's a, like I said, that's a lengthy conversation that I think is a staffing sort of,

[1:08:29] Let's bounce some ideas and it's a working meaning, not necessarily, you know, where we do this and not.

[1:08:35] Okay, but the idea is there, and I think we could probably, we sit down and brainstorm, I think we could probably come up with.

[1:08:43] The difference to me, you just pranked on about it would be, that's retail.

[1:08:49] Your office is not considered retail, it's a professional service, so they could have two different standards.

[1:08:54] Yes, right. So they might need beside each other.

[1:08:59] True. This one can this one have this one has to follow this and but a

[1:09:06] Professional service of a service that we defined it would not have to put that could put more tin

[1:09:13] To their window, but that's for I I'm just thinking out loud

[1:09:18] All right, and that in that very well, maybe where you start to delineate

[1:09:21] You know, there's enterprises and so it was brought in cloud way established, you know, what

[1:09:26] what establishments need, not just necessarily forward facing mainstream facing or any other

[1:09:32] road facing business.

[1:09:33] Right.

[1:09:34] I think the only thing I say about this is let's correct and cancel up the loan.

[1:09:39] This is the one issue that is preventing us right now from going to public hearing on the

[1:09:46] rewrite.

[1:09:47] So we got to choose something.

[1:09:50] Sitting here wondering is it how do we move the appetite on council with the majority of council for us to kind of hammer out

[1:10:01] Different standards for different types of businesses, and I

[1:10:06] I personally don't have that appetite, but I would like to know if the chief has any comment. I just actually

[1:10:12] Yes, ma'am, that brings that question so

[1:10:15] I don't know if this is allowable

[1:10:18] You know like ABC regulates alcohol sales if you feel

[1:10:21] clients, there could be a civil penalty to lose your license.

[1:10:24] Is there any discussion in this industry about failed compliance checks where the

[1:10:28] locality could either engage in the Earth?

[1:10:31] Of course, the civil penalty, and if it's repeated, and agreed just then could it be explored?

[1:10:40] So, my understanding is once the marijuana rolls kick in, there's, because they're

[1:10:45] at it that is going to be a similar oversight as the U.S. type source.

[1:10:54] As far as the rest of, I mean, we could do the same type of zoning and enforcement

[1:11:00] and penalties in the event that they failed to, you know, or if you're running screens

[1:11:05] tests, that sort of thing for, you know, who they're so on to.

[1:11:08] But outside of that, I'm not sure what kind of, obviously, we can set a schedule penalties

[1:11:14] As long penalties generally need to be uniform across the board for zoning malls and enforcement.

[1:11:22] But so I guess that would.

[1:11:25] I'm not sure, I don't know, because the problem is is what it is, what aspect we're enforcing.

[1:11:31] With ABC, of course, that's all state regulated in the sense and they've got their own compliance officers who come in.

[1:11:39] And that comes into what their displays are, what they're doing and how they're doing it.

[1:11:43] And I'm not sure that, and I think that's one of the reasons that they've delayed the

[1:11:49] full marijuana laws, essentially, because they want to make sure that they've got that

[1:11:54] regulatory agency more in place as that comes in, because again, they've talked about at least

[1:12:00] my understanding is, and I haven't followed it recently, and I don't know if they talked about

[1:12:04] kind of a step, basically something very similar with the ABC kind of structure with the

[1:12:09] system to try to have that. But again, there's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's

[1:12:18] what's yours. Yeah. That's a never car here. Well, I mean, that I was kind of, kind of

[1:12:22] discussed with the marijuana issue too. I was like, if we want to talk about all this

[1:12:26] in reference to the vape, we know most of these shops are leading more of that

[1:12:30] direction, waiting for that, that marijuana thing to come around. I mean, in our

[1:12:36] video should we wait till that point, or should we right now start establishing, hey, you

[1:12:42] know, not, not look at this low-hanging fruit if we know it's going to be here, should we

[1:12:47] start pushing back to what we're trying to do? Now, right now, we're, we're, we're talking

[1:12:53] about just tobacco, nicotine, and hemp product because that's kind of what's currently

[1:12:58] regulatable. Now, what I would generally recommend is that if we use, if we go to at least

[1:13:05] start getting something working so that we go ahead and we establish the definition of

[1:13:09] recreational substances, the establishments, the uses that are permitted, where they're

[1:13:14] permitted and getting the thousand feet and then, you know, from there.

[1:13:19] That's your, that's just your base.

[1:13:21] We go in, you work in as you start working up your other, you know, regulatory schemes up.

[1:13:27] Okay, how do we want to structure these things?

[1:13:28] How do we want to, so that, because in the meantime, you know, you're just talking about a lot

[1:13:34] this is just kind of by right where they're popping off. And so you'll want to at least kind

[1:13:38] of get something on the books of saying, okay, let's get something out there to address the

[1:13:43] immediate threat, so to speak, of these businesses just kind of popping off. And then as we're,

[1:13:52] it's nice to do it, a giant one shot, one deal if you can do it. But if we're going to really start

[1:13:58] talking about potentially creating another regulatory scheme of the window tents and that sort

[1:14:04] of thing for retail establishments, we just we may need to have some kind of studies of

[1:14:09] saying, hey, what's what's reasonable, what's an appropriate level, how is this going to

[1:14:13] be applied?

[1:14:14] And again, you're going to be dealing with a lot of a grandfathered in businesses who say,

[1:14:19] hey, well, we're already well established.

[1:14:22] And maybe we do it here, I don't know.

[1:14:24] I just don't want our time to be seen as prohibitive towards new businesses.

[1:14:30] I understand, and we all have a, maybe a distaste for the vape and the future mayor

[1:14:36] want to be sold on Main Street, but I don't want to break out a shotgun to kill a fly.

[1:14:43] Let's use a fly swatter take care of the small business, and if we need to establish something

[1:14:48] greater for that, that our greater desire, later, let's work on that.

[1:14:53] And the state, and I'm, you know, cautiously optimistic that the state is going to give us some of those tools.

[1:15:00] That we need. I really think, I don't see them just completely unleashing marijuana on us, because the state's going to be, the state's already terrified of that. I mean, they've already kind of followed up with some other legislation to kind of start pulling back some of the, just, you know, it's legal free for all, have had it folks. You know, they've kind of sort of pulled back on some of them saying, hey, we need to have XYZ. Let's do this. You know, that's why they put the time frame out there when they did.

[1:15:30] But it is going to be some chaos because the day that that clicks over and it becomes,

[1:15:36] I mean, you know, not only do you have the regulative business industry, but of course you have the guys that are still,

[1:15:42] you know, because you can still have those four plants in the backyard kind of thing.

[1:15:47] That's, that's not going away.

[1:15:49] And so, it's a no matter what, as we regulate the industry for those retail establishments,

[1:15:55] I think that when they authorized this retail sale of it, I think they're going to give us,

[1:16:01] they're going to have to give us some kind of guidance, they're going to have to give us some authority to say,

[1:16:04] hey, where can we put these things and how can we keep them off the mainstream if we want to keep them off the mainstream?

[1:16:11] And my understanding was that not every business that sells vapes will be licensed to sell the marijuana.

[1:16:17] Absolutely not. They're going to be quite stingy, I think.

[1:16:20] is. So what I've gathered is you're going to have the you're going to have some, you know,

[1:16:26] you're going to have to get the washing out so to speak. Yeah, I'm going to be every Tom Dick

[1:16:31] and Harry that's out here, someone on, you know, popping up a corner stand who's got a license

[1:16:35] to distribute. That's not going to be the case. You're not going to have these tobacco places

[1:16:40] or whatever they are. I'm sure they're in line and I'm sure they're doing their due diligence

[1:16:48] so that they will be totally one, I wouldn't get in this way.

[1:16:52] They're a big company.

[1:16:54] And they've got the money to spend.

[1:16:57] All right, so my feeling was that a lot of those

[1:16:59] will be flushed out once that happens.

[1:17:01] I would say that I think some of them

[1:17:02] are running themselves out.

[1:17:03] They're not going to have to tolerate that level of competition.

[1:17:09] I mean, if you've got three stores on these,

[1:17:11] I have the same thing.

[1:17:13] But then again, maybe you can.

[1:17:14] I don't know.

[1:17:15] Got to thank you.

[1:17:16] I don't ever see anyone else.

[1:17:17] Chief, can I ask you a question?

[1:17:23] Sorry, I did need to bluntly.

[1:17:24] How helpful is it to your officers for any business to actually have some transparency

[1:17:32] and to establishments if you're driving by or walking by or approaching the building even for your safety?

[1:17:41] Visibility?

[1:17:43] Visibility inside a building.

[1:17:45] Yeah. I mean, yeah, visibility is always great, right? You never know. I mean, you're walking

[1:17:51] into a call for service since, you know, blocked out windows or even stopping a vehicle.

[1:17:56] The window tent, right, crazy, some, some safety concerns. So yeah, it's a scenario based,

[1:18:04] right? Food line. It just depends, right? I mean, you know, on that. And if you're called

[1:18:10] there for emergency. So, but visibility would be optimal, right? You don't see two things we

[1:18:14] watch of the hands, right? And that's, in our work, that's what's going to hurt your

[1:18:18] guilty. And so we want to identify and threaten to their hands and be able to communicate.

[1:18:24] So, I mean, again, it's near your base, but visible is always good in any combat situation

[1:18:30] or an altercation. I know that's not a direct answer.

[1:18:38] So one thing that has been discussed a couple of times now is the recreational substance within the historic district.

[1:18:48] We have, as you can see, we've already voted, we've already moved to restrict it to the B1 district.

[1:18:56] Was there any problem with that, Mr. Helms?

[1:19:00] So that's just in our current highway commercial, but so that ends up not ends up down there.

[1:19:09] So it's nothing down here, but we have to worry about, it's just along 55 and 11 essentially.

[1:19:18] I think that, I think that does a pretty good job at limiting and keeping it a long,

[1:19:28] the main thoroughfare in the town, I think that's going to do a lot to also prevent sort

[1:19:37] of unsee this.

[1:19:40] It's still would be interested in, I mean, if it's not too much trouble just having Brian

[1:19:45] at least explore the Tentin issue.

[1:19:48] It might not be too hard.

[1:19:50] We call it back Tentin, but every business,

[1:19:52] or just this particular one.

[1:19:54] Is the kind of role is how our other council member

[1:19:58] is feeling about that additional staff working to build

[1:20:02] an additional regulatory scheme on window Tentin town.

[1:20:08] Why is there, you're an appetite on council?

[1:20:11] I don't see many people do that.

[1:20:13] I don't really see many people tenure when it is in town because objective of the business is to sell your product and you want people to see it

[1:20:19] I mean you passed that tobacco hud over there

[1:20:22] You can see all the way through it all the way through the end at other end, so I mean yeah, we can regulate it, but I think they don't want it anyways

[1:20:31] Okay, I'm not getting a sense that there's a majority of council members who wants staff to do this to put time into

[1:20:40] This window tinting regulation.

[1:20:45] Now, in a fact, I could just chime in about the window tint.

[1:20:48] Chiefsaker brought up about food line.

[1:20:51] And I just remembered, they've got pretty heavy window tint out there,

[1:20:54] because the sun sets right there and to check out.

[1:20:58] There's certain businesses that might want or need to have greater than 50%.

[1:21:03] I see this as a solution in search of a problem.

[1:21:06] You know what I mean?

[1:21:08] to create more regulatory burden not just on the businesses but on on our town staff to go in like

[1:21:13] let me check this window tent but we got the thousand feet you know and yeah I think I think these

[1:21:22] stores generally speaking want people to be able to see their product I don't think this is necessary I don't

[1:21:28] I don't have to do it for the winter.

[1:21:31] That was just doing a quick check.

[1:21:32] I mean, right now, you know, retail marijuana movement

[1:21:35] isn't, it's just stopped.

[1:21:37] I mean, so now, obviously,

[1:21:42] if and when the, you know,

[1:21:44] the 20, 20 colleges changes for the, for the commonwealth

[1:21:49] and maybe that'll happen in three or four years

[1:21:52] that things would change, who knows.

[1:21:54] I guess whenever the next government election

[1:21:58] That's what we're doing right now next year, then it'll be all set to 2020-7 and before you have regulations.

[1:22:07] Right, that's what I'm saying.

[1:22:08] So Mayor, Vice Mayor, excuse me.

[1:22:12] Based on that discussion, would it, are we saying then strike number two?

[1:22:21] Yeah.

[1:22:22] That's where I think Brian and I were both at in the last version of the one that he and I discussed.

[1:22:27] And should this be the last item we need to agree on, if y'all have the consensus to agree on that,

[1:22:37] then direct staff to move forward with advertising for that appearance.

[1:22:46] Just trying to get it moving.

[1:22:49] Does any comment from the council?

[1:22:52] You can always change it later.

[1:22:54] I mean, it's just a public hearing.

[1:22:56] You probably hear a lot of stuff.

[1:22:58] It's striking the nose, no sun shading or tinting films, maybe a play.

[1:23:03] Really from 2Dale.

[1:23:04] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:23:05] They'll help you.

[1:23:05] Yeah, I take it on my mind.

[1:23:06] Basically, just sticking to the 1000 feet.

[1:23:10] The only really regulation that has is 1000 feet.

[1:23:14] Then it goes back to meeting any other sign standards of the district, in which it is

[1:23:21] included.

[1:23:22] The open arching.

[1:23:25] That good?

[1:23:26] Yeah.

[1:23:26] So if that's the consensus that we'll strike 845416, the second reference, then we can direct

[1:23:36] staff to proceed with again and to get everything ready to move toward public end.

[1:23:42] Any objections from Council or any comments are any from Council on vote?

[1:23:51] Thank you.

[1:23:53] Moving on.

[1:23:54] on a part of date assistant town manager.

[1:23:59] So I talked to Josh with Ray Z and got their definition

[1:24:02] and part of it.

[1:24:05] And that's a little plan.

[1:24:06] There's your phone.

[1:24:07] It was an aerial photo shot.

[1:24:10] It was a commitment to a concrete pad.

[1:24:12] That was able to provide them that would be removed.

[1:24:15] The shovel ready plan that we required to move is

[1:24:19] the lower than 75% of the officers.

[1:24:22] And that would include burn flight,

[1:24:24] eclacolic, burn aircraft.

[1:24:26] I don't see notes, these heels,

[1:24:28] you know, three of plans set versus just concepts.

[1:24:31] And you can have them at the end of November,

[1:24:34] because that's also actually on talk,

[1:24:38] where really when I talk.

[1:24:41] And budget would cover coordination with town staff,

[1:24:44] plan, all that comes up.

[1:24:46] And Josh said they would do it by an hourly base.

[1:24:49] That way it would notice people starting $500

[1:24:51] that was not quite so short, and we get a total of 12 parts.

[1:24:55] And that way, if you always find it, that's 65 to 68 or whatever.

[1:25:02] And our budget law items, the park correct?

[1:25:04] We do have a line with building maintenance.

[1:25:06] The part of it was come, come, park, to work on that.

[1:25:09] And then attention savings from our website are going to fill you with other

[1:25:13] things in a year.

[1:25:15] But council put a crew of us to allocate it from it from 25.

[1:25:18] I'm a general fund, a lot of I don't, a lot of I don't, a lot of I don't, and then at the end

[1:25:26] of the year, if you have any

[1:25:33] questions from council, verification, and state, and...

[1:25:40] She's like, of course she do, so I look, so I looked up this grant and who has been the recipients

[1:25:52] of the grants in Virginia and around.

[1:25:56] There's 400 applications, only 6% get it.

[1:26:01] Having, I'm glad we didn't just go with a 3500

[1:26:05] because you're going to have to do the 7500

[1:26:07] to even compete according to what T-Mobile said

[1:26:11] at all their congratulatory towns that they gave the grants to.

[1:26:18] If we aren't a recipient,

[1:26:22] Well, these plans that we pay for last us for years, so that we can do it ourselves.

[1:26:29] And it is listed in our...

[1:26:32] It's not fun to get, but it is listed in our next year's CIP money set aside to redo home comfort.

[1:26:38] If we could definitely have that discussion, should it not happen before we have to start...

[1:26:43] How much does it put?

[1:26:43] to be a 20 to 26. We can always have that discussion for you to be a 20 to 20.

[1:26:48] I just want to, I don't like, I don't really have my money, I don't know.

[1:26:51] Studies that, then go nowhere that way.

[1:26:54] No, they, they don't have a pretty good shelf life, you know, but.

[1:26:57] Yeah, it's not going to be anything crazy.

[1:26:59] Well, unless regulations change drastically, and it's going to be going to

[1:27:04] plough for every quarter. I mean, I could be annoying.

[1:27:08] Are we looking at taking out the big tall trees to get the extra 12 foot that's

[1:27:13] behind there to be deterrent under the fire department did like having some of that block

[1:27:20] or there because it blocked some of the parking lot and their trucks and their vehicles

[1:27:24] and it it's 12 prison imprater but that's part of the design we can work if that's a

[1:27:31] goal of this body we can see if there's something different that's aesthetically pleasing

[1:27:37] but also accomplishes the desire of the fire department since they all be in a partner with

[1:27:43] But there might be a different way to versus trees more or I don't know. I'm just thinking a lot

[1:27:52] I'm really convinced me to chalk down some picture

[1:27:55] But I'm only one person

[1:27:59] But I didn't say chalk them down. I don't want to, you know, take them out

[1:28:03] I don't think they're about that

[1:28:07] They're big trees

[1:28:11] I don't know if you want to make a motion on this, I'm just going to say if you do, I would

[1:28:19] ask you, you have the front view, just put in the mail, not to exceed that figure, okay.

[1:28:26] I just, as soon as Michelle said that, it calm a man, it should say that, but I wouldn't

[1:28:32] where I thought it was under something five, number seven.

[1:28:36] Any additional questions?

[1:28:38] Comments?

[1:28:39] I'm happy to entertain a motion.

[1:28:44] That's number 10.

[1:28:45] I'm going to screw funding for the RAC engineering proposal for the design plans of the

[1:28:49] Home Town Park Improvement Plan.

[1:28:51] Not to exceed the amount of $7,500.

[1:28:55] Second.

[1:28:56] Seven by council member Woodson.

[1:28:59] Any additional discussion?

[1:29:02] Not all in favor, signify by saying aye.

[1:29:06] Aye.

[1:29:07] Any opposed?

[1:29:09] Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you. We have one more old, old business item that we

[1:29:18] added to the agenda at the beginning of the meeting. Straussford volunteer, fire department

[1:29:23] reimbursement as you all remember. The volunteer fire department replaced some doors over

[1:29:30] building, we own in the amount of 15,000, 600 and $80 and have requested reimbursement.

[1:29:43] Does anyone have any questions about this item for staff?

[1:29:47] No.

[1:29:48] If not, I'll entertain them for sure.

[1:29:49] Please can I also amend this motion?

[1:29:51] Yes.

[1:29:52] Where it says, General Fund continues to see a lot of item?

[1:29:56] Say, RPF funds.

[1:29:57] Our proponents are, yes.

[1:30:01] Okay, we want to go ahead and take my. Vice Mayor, Vice Mayor, I move to approve the reimbursement to the Straussburg volunteer fire department for the door replacement project in the amount of $15,680 utilizing the ARPA funds and fiscal year 2025 budget.

[1:30:22] to

[1:30:24] my council member Kimmins, any further discussion?

[1:30:28] There are none.

[1:30:30] Those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

[1:30:34] Any opposition?

[1:30:36] Motion passes.

[1:30:37] You may not be

[1:30:43] afraid, so you don't have anything

[1:30:45] under any of business.

[1:30:49] Departmental reports were,

[1:30:51] some of them are looking for,

[1:30:53] not last week.

[1:30:56] Are there any conditions for staff?

[1:31:04] I will just add that I have met with the, or talk with the building inspector, so we're working

[1:31:09] on getting our permits for the rest room.

[1:31:12] So I hope that I'll take you on.

[1:31:13] And did a site walk with our project manager for the parking that was on the rest of the

[1:31:18] time.

[1:31:18] I'm already a bell.

[1:31:20] Awesome.

[1:31:21] I can't tell you exactly how excited I am for that.

[1:31:23] Great.

[1:31:24] Just reiterate with what Ms. Melody spoke about earlier.

[1:31:27] Don't forget, we have scarecrow control coming up, trick or treating, and then

[1:31:32] better and safe. Is it going to be shared or email

[1:31:37] said out about how we can help or things to sign up for

[1:31:41] or times that would help me.

[1:31:45] Yeah, some follow up. I'll follow up in the email.

[1:31:50] Thank you. Thank you.

[1:31:51] Do you have any additional comments to report on?

[1:31:54] Thanks for the.

[1:31:55] I might unless you have something for me.

[1:31:59] question this.

[1:32:02] Dr. Finance, any?

[1:32:04] I just wanted to add that we are a certain back from Robinson from our context that you

[1:32:12] are auditing, but we also have to assert that the census data that we submitted for the

[1:32:31] And then I didn't know if any y'all had any questions on what I sent out to me, but I can't actually look at the pictures.

[1:32:39] We actually did, and I was just going to say thank you so much, because it goes to help a lot for everybody.

[1:32:47] I thought I gave you a better view of really the little government kind of related to any way that it's our people.

[1:32:53] and make the difference and that's shown in these charts.

[1:32:58] Yeah, thank you.

[1:32:59] I did start reviewing those and they were very helpful.

[1:33:04] Any questions for the director please?

[1:33:08] Tell me in a minute or any comment.

[1:33:10] Just to support.

[1:33:11] Continue to work with Mr. Helm on the Board Maori Extension property.

[1:33:18] We would treat them emails today as well as the second water source

[1:33:23] of our home issue, we're hopefully we're gaming ground, we're getting close to getting

[1:33:31] the property as well as we're getting agreements on on the water source.

[1:33:38] So we're continuing to work on those, I know some people don't hear as much about those.

[1:33:42] It's slow slidness, they say, but we're getting close and hopefully for a long way to say,

[1:33:49] That's gone. We're going to the next step and I know that the engineer, we're going to

[1:34:00] want the 15 West King Street, has got a virtual meet and scheduled with the building

[1:34:06] official. Just to go with some plan items, just there,

[1:34:11] not design something that the building

[1:34:14] official office can prove, say. I know that schedule for next week. How are you feeling

[1:34:21] about the timeline and the progress of that project so far? I think we're close to their schedule.

[1:34:30] I know that I think I told you we were maybe a week or so behind, but we're going to see if we can

[1:34:38] if you end that long process or week or two behind you've done a great job. But we had the beginning

[1:34:43] And so we're going to be more diligent about, you know, if something's in our lives, let's

[1:34:50] do it and get it done and get back, I'd rather than be waiting, no, us waiting on them

[1:34:55] not than waiting on us.

[1:34:57] So, right now it's good, I think we're just through that point where when things get rolling,

[1:35:03] you know, pick up more steam and be more efficient.

[1:35:09] Attorney, any additional comments, items for us?

[1:35:16] I don't think so.

[1:35:18] Well, then I officially formed

[1:35:24] officially formed under my new business under Helmwall.

[1:35:32] So that coming up, I guess, here a few moments, but I just wanted to let you know about that.

[1:35:39] has Miller on a shanks officially as dissolved as a legal entity, just did it.

[1:35:49] Sorry.

[1:35:50] Carry on away with me.

[1:35:53] So.

[1:35:53] Are you good?

[1:35:55] So I'm afraid to look, you know, let me know if you have any questions.

[1:35:58] Other than my email, no, not just answers.

[1:36:01] That's important.

[1:36:02] Yes.

[1:36:03] Make sure to tag us in it.

[1:36:05] I don't have the hashtag, but I don't have the hashtag either.

[1:36:08] Okay, I'll have to look for that.

[1:36:10] Oh, yeah.

[1:36:11] I don't have the heart attack when I saw the agenda.

[1:36:14] It was like, it was legal.

[1:36:15] Yeah, it was pretty simple.

[1:36:17] It's just how I'm law of VA.com now.

[1:36:19] So.

[1:36:21] See reports, how some of them are becoming?

[1:36:24] Yes.

[1:36:26] The commission met last month, September 19th.

[1:36:29] We received a presentation from the Port of Virginia.

[1:36:32] Commission did approve and update to the electronic participation policy.

[1:36:37] just as I believe that we did the month for it to go.

[1:36:42] The next meeting is this month, we'll be held in October 17th and it will be at Bill

[1:36:50] Grow for the annual fall banquet and the invitation has been extended to all of y'all as

[1:37:02] well.

[1:37:02] on November, October.

[1:37:06] Okay.

[1:37:07] Thank you.

[1:37:07] Any questions for council members?

[1:37:11] Vice Mayor, can I have one thing over here?

[1:37:14] California dinner.

[1:37:15] October 23.

[1:37:16] Box office.

[1:37:17] Well, six PM.

[1:37:19] Hope's everybody there.

[1:37:20] Do you need our RSVPs if we're bringing someone?

[1:37:25] Okay.

[1:37:28] You're going to email whatever.

[1:37:30] I'll remind everybody, I'll remind everybody, say hey, love you know, I'll just come to you if you're coming in.

[1:37:35] I need this thing to come in.

[1:37:36] I need this thing to come in.

[1:37:36] It's my cut off, like I happened to know I was a teen second life box office now.

[1:37:41] So, her cut off the tent.

[1:37:44] Yeah.

[1:37:45] Okay.

[1:37:46] That's what our text is calling you guys.

[1:37:48] This is a few days to hang.

[1:37:52] Yep.

[1:37:57] Council member.

[1:37:58] Council member comments.

[1:37:59] Does anyone?

[1:38:02] Any thoughts on members have any comments?

[1:38:06] Talk, ma'am.

[1:38:08] All right.

[1:38:10] We do have a closed meeting.

[1:38:11] Do I have a motion to enter?

[1:38:14] Vice Mayor?

[1:38:15] I'm a member.

[1:38:16] I'm a member.

[1:38:16] I moved to the House of Representatives to close meeting

[1:38:19] for student to code Virginia.

[1:38:22] 2.2-3711A1 for discussion

[1:38:27] consideration or interviews of prospective candidates for employment, assignment, appointment,

[1:38:32] promotion, performance, demotion, salaries, disciplining, or resignation of specific public

[1:38:38] officers, appointees, or employees of a public body, subject of the closed meeting and

[1:38:43] to boards and commissions in the assignment of town attorney.

[1:38:48] I have a second.

[1:38:49] Thanks.

[1:38:51] Look.

[1:38:53] All in the favor of entering closed session,

[1:38:56] signify by saying aye.

[1:38:58] Aye.

[1:38:58] The opposition.

[1:39:01] You're in.

[1:39:02] We have a meeting for those session after a three minute break.

[1:39:05] Ooh, thank you.

[1:39:06] A little second.

[1:39:08] Andrew.

[1:39:11] Make sure we're ready to talk.

[1:39:15] It's meant for us to.

[1:39:18] It's not so.

[1:39:18] It's so good I'm a too hard.

[1:39:20] I don't think I can do that.

[1:39:23] I don't think I can do that.

[1:39:27] I don't think I can do it.

[1:39:28] It's done.

Oct 08, 2024 Town Council Meeting

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