[0:02] We are recording. [clears throat]

[0:05] » Terrific. Everybody ready to go? >> Yes, sir.

[0:08] » All right, let's get this show board meeting for Monday, August 3rd, 26

[0:15] time

[0:27] this evening. for a motion to approve the evening's agenda. Is there anyone

[0:30] who wishes to offer a motion to approve the evening's agenda?

[0:33] » Motion to approve the agenda. >> Andrew has offered a motion to second.

[0:42] » Any other further discussion, questions? Anything [snorts] else on this? We have

[0:46] a motion to approve that motion. >> Hearing none, all those in favor, please

[0:51] signify by saying I >> and those opposed. [clears throat] That

[0:55] motion carries. All

[1:01] right, let's stand al

[1:07] to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it

[1:12] stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[1:25] Item number [clears throat] five service award for

[1:34] Mr. Kaker if you would. >> Thank you. So Michelle actually started

[1:37] working for the village back in 2015 as a pole worker before becoming the

[1:41] full-time village clerk in 2021. And since then, she's not only been

[1:46] responsible for guiding us through elections, liquor licensing, human

[1:50] resources functions, insurance coverages and claims, open records requests, and

[1:55] much more. But she was instrumental in the implementation of a muchneeded third

[2:00] polling location. She became a Wisconsin certified municipal clerk in 2024 and

[2:06] has been one to take on the less glamorous tasks like cleaning up our

[2:10] electronic filing system. She is someone I know that I can trust to act

[2:15] professionally at all times and provides A+ customer service. The village has

[2:20] been lucky to have you, Michelle, and uh I thank you for your service to the

[2:23] village. >> Thank you so much, Administrator Kaker.

[2:27] Appreciate that. [applause]

[2:37] I also want to acknowledge the board for their acknowledgement of our employees.

[2:42] Thank you. >> Thank you.

[2:48] [laughter]

[2:54] » [laughter] >> Never mind.

[2:57] » Maybe later. >> We don't need to create [laughter]

[3:02] [clears throat] item wetland mitigation update evergreens consult.

[3:07] » Thank you. So I'll invite up Chad Fet from Evergreen Consultants to lead the

[3:12] discussion on our wetland mitigation bank.

[3:19] » Hello everybody. >> Hello.

[3:21] » Hi there. >> Sh. It's been five years already been

[3:23] putting up with this. My [cough]

[3:26] time [clears throat] is flying.

[3:38] We have a PowerPoint tonight to help out. It's

[3:42] quite a lot to go through, but we'll get through it quick.

[3:51] When was the last time we met? You recall? Does anybody recall the last

[3:55] time we had an up? >> It would have been last fall at some

[3:57] point. >> Last fall. All right. Yeah, it's been a

[4:01] little while. >> Yep. Well, we've been in kind of a

[4:04] holding pattern just kind of stuck and with our the way the credit releases

[4:09] were set up initially under the old rules were just kind of in limbo. But

[4:14] luckily, there's been changes. So, we went through all of those documents and

[4:21] figured out way to change the credit release schedule and habitat metrics and

[4:28] hydraology metrics to accelerate credit releases. So, that's what I want to talk

[4:33] about tonight. So, we can go to the next screen.

[4:38] So, what am I asking for tonight? I want you to authorize me to submit a complete

[4:41] overhaul of your mitigation bank instrument and your compensation site

[4:47] plan. That's that 1,200page document. So we've gone completely

[4:51] through that and changed everything to your advantage that we can use under the

[4:55] new rules. And then we used a lot of site data to prove that as well. We do

[4:59] have wetland reference sites on within the bank and those were utilized to help

[5:05] us with some of that and approving like to approve the simplified release

[5:10] schedule and then like to have an approval to head towards October

[5:14] construction for the last segment of construction

[5:18] and we'll go through what those entail but essentially your October

[5:21] construction is the old stream corridor that we haven't take advantage of and

[5:27] putting in a couple of the alternate that barriers in place that we need in

[5:31] order to get your your large credit releases.

[5:36] Next screen, >> Chad, could you talk a little bit about

[5:38] the new rules that you're referring to because I don't think

[5:41] » Yeah, we'll go through those. Yeah, we'll go through I'll go through the new

[5:44] rules and what they mean [clears throat] uh in the another part of the

[5:47] presentation. It's pretty complicated, so we'll go through those one by one.

[5:50] » Uh but for those of you who weren't here in the beginning, this is the bank at a

[5:54] glance. So, it was 90 roughly 92.8 acres consisting of three properties. Village

[6:00] properties, the Jones, and the Coxman's property.

[6:04] We were approved for 58.35 credits on the bank and we have 6.04

[6:09] acres of area that are at no credit currently, but we are going to be

[6:13] requesting credit for those in our submission and we have a 10-year

[6:17] monitoring period. Your bank serves in northwestern Lake Michigan, which is lot

[6:22] most of good chunk of northeast Wisconsin and down the lake shore.

[6:27] Next, next slide. So, there's four main changes that we're

[6:33] looking for in this plan modification. It's a minor plan modification, although

[6:38] it seems major, it's pretty minor.

[6:43] We are going to be inserting the stream channel. We'll change that, which

[6:49] originally was conceived to be flood plane forest and a stream mitigation.

[6:54] And then we we're going to change that to wet sedge meadow. That is now one

[6:58] credit as wet meadow. And that'll allow you to gain credit on that six acres you

[7:04] currently are not getting credit for. And then the rules allow us to

[7:07] consolidate credit types. So we did originally have coniferous hardwoods,

[7:12] coniferous swamp and hardwood swamp as separate types, but coniferous swamp

[7:16] isn't mitigated very often. So this is advantageous to change this all to

[7:21] wooded swamp. And then we have performance standards

[7:25] that we're changing, hydrarology and vegetation standards, and we're changing

[7:28] those based on site data. And then changes in the 2025 mitigation guidance

[7:35] allow us to make changes that are beneficial to you. And it's lowering

[7:38] some standards to be able to get credits a lot quicker and get these banks

[7:43] wrapped up. So what was going on is a lot of people were getting cold feet

[7:47] about getting into banking and you experience exactly wise. It takes

[7:50] several years and many years to get approved and the standards are high and

[7:55] and so we're going to propose to lower those. And then we have on-site data on

[8:00] our reference wetlands allows us to further reduce criteria on the habitat

[8:06] side that helps you get credits faster. And then we overhauled the way that

[8:10] credits are released and that leads to significant amount of credits quicker in

[8:16] this system and I'll go through that in a little bit.

[8:22] Uh specifically the old stream corridor we were proposing stream mitigation but

[8:27] after site visit with IRT and Army Corps they determined that the stream wasn't

[8:32] quite good enough for restoration purposes. So we change we're changing

[8:36] over to wet meadow. That's the old plan on the left. The plant the picture on

[8:40] the right is what it looks like today. You've got um a channel in the center

[8:45] with cattail on either side. You've got upland grasses and we're going to change

[8:50] that all to wet meadow. Next screens has been helping us design

[8:57] this plan. So this is the the new plan for the stream corridor. We'll still

[9:01] have some overflow channels to make sure that water can get through in high water

[9:06] events, but we're going to do a lot of uh what's called humbucko topography

[9:10] allows uh amphibian use and some diversication of the plant vegetation

[9:15] which will help ward off invasive species. [clears throat]

[9:19] And then it was modeled, there was an H&H study done on this to make sure that

[9:23] we're not going to flood out any of the neighbors. But essentially, we're going

[9:25] to fill the stream and then excavate a lot of fill that's in that area to

[9:31] create some credits.

[9:36] And this is what the corridor look like today. It's all as you saw, it's a

[9:40] cattail in center with surrounded by upland grasses. So these pictures are

[9:44] from site. We have zone one, which you'll see later is more in the north.

[9:49] That's a shallow marsh wet meadow that's dominated by soft stem bull rush almost

[9:55] 90% that's a very interesting wetlands very nice and then wet sedge meadow in

[10:00] the south very beautiful sedge meadow has uh grown in that area very

[10:06] diversified species and then there's an area of surface water that sticks around

[10:10] for quite a while and there were thousands of leopard frogs that's a

[10:14] picture on the right but that'll be similar to what that corridor looked

[10:16] like give us a little more diversification

[10:19] of plants out there, more wildlife usage and getting us credits to be a little

[10:23] easier. Chose wet metal for that area because it is the easiest to sell credit

[10:28] type. So when we get those credits, you'll sell them fairly quickly.

[10:34] And then one thing to note is that we did we did a study of the soils before

[10:40] we before we did construction and see what kind of plants would come out of

[10:44] the soil. And so we did these germination tests and we would we didn't

[10:49] find a lot of the species that are appearing there now. So we did have a

[10:52] seed mix. My kids and I collected seeds from around some of our properties, some

[10:57] of our wet meadows that that don't have any invasive species and we still didn't

[11:02] have some of the species that are here. So there is a strong seed bankank which

[11:06] does help uh with vegetation standards. So that's a good thing that we found

[11:11] over the last three years. You mean the property has a good seed bankank?

[11:15] » Yep. Property has a good seed bankank and I was surprised by that because it

[11:19] didn't come out in our seed bankank test.

[11:21] » So having that water there for longer just allowed those plants to germinate.

[11:25] So it's a very good species mix and that zone five which is kind of the

[11:30] souththeast part of the site would already meet vegetation standards if we

[11:34] were in wet meadow situation. So very hopeful that we'll get the rest of the

[11:38] property uh to look like that as well.

[11:43] Uh just a sideby-side comparison just kind of go through this quick, but this

[11:46] is just for the stream corridor. Uh we were doing mandaring pools with a

[11:51] stream. Now we're just doing Sedge wet meadow micro topography. We had turtle

[11:56] nesting areas, but without the stream, we don't really need to have that. So we

[11:59] changed that to the Humuck Hollow just to get some diversification.

[12:03] Uh the community was going to be floodplane forest and now it's going to

[12:06] be herbaceous, no trees, just trees on the edges. uh soil treatment in the area

[12:11] weren't going to do anything before. Now we're just going to put compost in the

[12:14] area on top of uh the subs soils that are there.

[12:19] Hydrarology standards going to be wet metal easier standard to meet

[12:24] and herbaceous standard. So it's pretty much just wet meadow versus forest. So

[12:29] currently there's no credit approved in the old plan and now we're going to ask

[12:32] for 4.11 credits for that area >> for what was the stream. This is for the

[12:39] stream corridor. So that center section, it's uh six acres where there's nothing

[12:44] right now. No credits at all. It's just left as it was. And now we're going to

[12:48] go in and change that, manipulate that to get your credits.

[12:51] » But that's something that will need to be reviewed by the Army Corps DNR and

[12:56] » yes, discussed. >> That's part of our submission. Our

[12:58] submission for this week, should you approve, we'd like to submit on

[13:02] Wednesday, is twofold. One is to add in this habitat change. Second is to

[13:08] overhaul the whole plan and the we have to make changes to the plan if

[13:14] we insert something and the IRT is requiring us to do something with that

[13:17] center area some sort of vegetative change and since we have to do something

[13:22] anyway you may as well get credit for it. So that's why we're doing that

[13:25] submission. And then while we're there, we since we have to make changes to your

[13:29] plan to insert this section by adding in a wet meadow category, which you don't

[13:34] have now, we may as well just overhaul the whole thing to the new rules, which

[13:37] the core and offered us for us to do knowing that that we have uh less

[13:43] stringent thresholds to meet for hydrarology and habitat. So, we want to

[13:48] take advantage of that and overhaul the whole entire proposal, but we're about

[13:52] ready to go on that. If you approve tonight, we'd submit it Wednesday.

[13:55] » Do Okay. Well, we can have questions. >> We'll be going back through. We'll go

[13:59] through more of those in detail, Skype, but I'll I'll take question now if you

[14:02] if you want. >> No, go ahead and finish. I'll just I'll

[14:05] just make note and hold them till the end.

[14:07] » Very good. >> Uh, this is just again about the stream

[14:10] order. Why is this better, lower-term risk? Um, so we won't have as many

[14:16] issues with flashy farm drainage. So, u this will take some of those flood

[14:22] waters. So, that the site does flood in the spring. And I'm sure uh Mrs. Jalen

[14:27] can attest to the fact that it floods quite often in the spring. So, as we put

[14:32] in this wet metal, we're going to grade it down and widen it out. So, we'll have

[14:35] some flood storage in there, which will help alleviate some of those issues in

[14:39] the spring. And this does work with our existing barriers. So, no issue no issue

[14:45] with that. We don't have to do anything. It's actually to work between two

[14:48] barriers. Uh easier to credit because it's wet metal. We can get that growing

[14:52] quicker. So we don't have the long time that it takes uh forest to flood plane

[14:57] forest to grow. And then we do have uh wet meadow

[15:01] standards already in place so we don't have to come up with any. And this

[15:05] actually work out good for the wood turtles even though we don't have any of

[15:08] the spawning or them sorry the uh nesting areas up there.

[15:13] They'll still want they'll still colonize. they'll still use the site and

[15:16] with the wet meadow there between the trees, they'll be attracted to it and

[15:19] it'll work out well for them with the humollow topography

[15:23] and it's a little more diverse. So, one thing we lamented about the whole plan

[15:28] when the DNR initially approved it was that we were pretty much forested to

[15:32] know forested situation, but >> nature is doing what it does out there

[15:36] and we're getting some diversification which we'll deal with in the future. And

[15:40] then we're also introducing some diversification here which will lead to

[15:43] better overall habitat.

[15:48] So here's uh this is the big one for you guys. This is hydraology is your biggest

[15:53] credit category. It's 30% of your credits. And to show

[15:59] you that things are working out on site, this is a picture of where one of the

[16:04] barriers go through the site. And you can see on the right there's Queen Ans

[16:07] Lace. That's the white flower. You can see that on the right and you don't see

[16:11] it on the left. And there's a very distinct line where those two

[16:15] differentiate. So on the left it's all wetland grasses and and forbes which be

[16:20] flowers and then right it's all upland grasses and queen ans lace dominating in

[16:24] the flower area and that's right where the barrier is at. So there's a very

[16:28] distinct line where those berries are at on site and you can see them. So on the

[16:32] left you're getting hydrarology and the right it's dry. Uh so things are working

[16:36] on site and although we do have hydraology in in three zones

[16:42] on site now and four zone 4 really isn't meeting it yet. This is a picture from

[16:47] zone 4. So we are meeting some low-level hydrarology in zone 4 right now even

[16:53] though it's not meeting in our groundwater monitoring wells. If you

[16:57] walked out in the site the whole site looks at like a giant wetland with the

[17:01] where the barriers are at. You can see there's up plants. So, it is all working

[17:05] and we're going to use that to our advantage here in our next submission.

[17:14] So, we want to accelerate your credit release. This is all about credits and

[17:17] being able to sell them and earn dollars. This wasn't an entirely about

[17:21] wetland restoration. This is about making some money for the village. And

[17:26] so, we really want to capitalize on the changes that were made in the guidance

[17:31] documents. So the biggest change that we have is that we can do this in zones.

[17:36] Now it used to be an all or nothing. So we would have you have to meet

[17:41] hydrarology through the entire site in a category no matter what. That was the

[17:45] old rule and that was really hard. That's kind of why we're stuck in limbo.

[17:48] We have to wait till the hydraologies met for two seasons and we have to plant

[17:52] our trees and we can't get this credit release until the trees are planted and

[17:55] we're meeting hydrarology. Well, now we can break this up into zones. Um, and

[18:00] they actually called them polygons, but we're jumping on say, "Hey, well, we've

[18:03] got a polygon here, and we're tying it to where all the barriers are at." So,

[18:09] everywhere on site is is chopped up hydraologically by the barriers. So, the

[18:14] the barriers, if you don't recall, are dug trenches down to a clay layer and

[18:19] then we pack clay in and compact it in the sand layers and the sandom. It sits

[18:24] just below the surface where you can't see it. So in that that last picture

[18:28] that we showed, you couldn't see the barrier. It's not a hump, it's not a

[18:31] burm, it's subsurface. So we're going to capitalize on those as zones. So we

[18:36] divided the site into seven zones. So each of the site zones can be reviewed

[18:41] for hydrarology. So we're currently meeting three of the zones for

[18:45] hydrarology now. So we should be able to apply for that instead of being stuck in

[18:49] limbo. But we're going to make changes where we can apply for those. And we're

[18:53] going to make the site more uniform. So, it's divided up in 18 categories. Now,

[18:57] well, we still have subcategories, but we're going to divide into two different

[19:00] uniform categories. Either you need to meet hydrarology or you don't need to

[19:04] meet hydrarology. So, what I mean by that is you have areas on site when we

[19:08] delineated initially that were already wetland. So, we don't have to add water

[19:14] to those areas. So, those go in the non-lift category. So, no lift. And then

[19:18] we have upland areas that we're getting credit for. We're putting those in the

[19:21] no lift category. Then we have everything else where we need to get

[19:24] some water back. That's in the lift category. So we're making these into a

[19:27] lift and no lift categories, which allows us to further chop this up into

[19:34] smaller segments that we can meet more quickly instead of the all or nothing

[19:38] categories we've had before. And then the hydraology, we'd like to

[19:42] split that into two segments. So be so before it was 30% all or nothing. That's

[19:47] what you get when you meet hydrarology. You get 30%. And that's based off our

[19:51] two-year cycle. So, you have to meet hydrarology for two years in normal or

[19:55] wet years. And if you get a dry year in the middle, you're stuck for another

[19:58] year. Luckily, we had a couple normal wet years in a row and we're meeting

[20:02] that in some areas. So, we chopped us up in zones. We want to say, hey, we're

[20:07] meeting it for a year. We want 15%. And so, what we're saying is, hey, we've

[20:11] earned that year, so give us the 15% credit and and we'll we'll wait till we

[20:17] meet the next one to get our next 15%. And so that's a change we're uh

[20:21] implementing is this hydrarology split. And then back to your stream quarter.

[20:26] Now we're going to ask for credit six acres without credit. Now we're going to

[20:30] get ask for 4.1 credits uh with 10% release released on

[20:35] approval. And then we're look the next thing is

[20:39] setting the standards to what the site can reach. So when you see this 20 2530

[20:43] and 30 3545 those are species variance that we have to meet. So, if we go out

[20:49] to an area and we're reviewing it for our first plant, our first vegetative uh

[20:56] barrier or benchmark, it has to have 20 different species out there to get our

[21:00] first our first uh draw. Well, the current plan is 30. So, we're reducing

[21:05] it down from 30 species down to 20 [snorts] and the second one currently is

[21:09] 35 and then it's 45 for the third release of credits. Well, we're going to

[21:13] reduce those out down to 20, 25, and 30. Next, we're going to do an average over

[21:17] the site of 30 because that's this is based off data we have in our wetland

[21:21] reference references that are on site. We have four of them. And using the data

[21:26] we collected from those wetland reference areas, we're changing what

[21:31] your standards can be. And that's allowed in the new guidance where it was

[21:34] not before. So even though when we initially drafted this document, we had

[21:40] to follow the standard guidance which was 45 different species at the end of

[21:44] the project within an area. But our site can't reach that. So if you go look at

[21:49] the beautiful reference wetlands that we have and they are really nice. They're

[21:53] treed forested all over the place, animals using them and there's the

[21:58] maximum we have is 38 species in one of them. Well, we can't get that to 45. So

[22:03] that's why we're proposing that. And then we want to start planting trees

[22:08] in the spring and we would plant those in the areas that are meeting

[22:10] hydrarology. So we've been waiting and waiting to plant trees. And Alex has

[22:14] really been saying, "Hey, let's get the community together. Let's plant some

[22:17] trees." And I was all for it a year ago, but we didn't meet quite enough

[22:21] hydrarology, so we had to wait. So if we plant the trees now, we could drown them

[22:25] out and kill more than we expect to have for mortality after planting. So we're

[22:31] but we're ready now to plant some of those in some zones and in some zones we

[22:34] may have to wait a little bit longer for them to meet hydrarology and then finish

[22:38] out planting. But before it was an all or nothing thing. All the trees had to

[22:42] be planted on site before we could ask for that credit. But now with dividing

[22:46] this into zones and our two uniform different types of lift and no lift. Now

[22:52] we can segment this and ask for credits earlier which we're going to do.

[22:57] So zoned approach. So here's your seven zones. Uh the two in the north are the

[23:02] largest zone one and two and then there three four you have five six seven in

[23:06] the south and those are where our barrier locations are. They segment the

[23:10] site hydraologically and so it just makes sense to break them up into those

[23:14] areas. Zones one, two, and five are meeting hydraology on site vegetatively

[23:21] as well as in the wells. Zone three is kind of on the edge in the middle. So,

[23:26] we are placing a barrier there at the south end of zone three. And in four,

[23:32] even four is a little on the border, too. It's almost meeting it, but we

[23:36] going to check out the south barrier. There might be a spot where it's not

[23:39] quite compacted enough. So, we're going to check that out during this fall's

[23:43] construction. And then we're going to look at uh six

[23:48] and seven. Six is your stream corridor, and that one is going to take a couple

[23:52] years. And then seven, we just need a little bit more help with a barrier

[23:55] along the the ditch as well as some grading and filling that'll be done in

[23:59] the stream quarter. We'll help with those. So those are your seven zones

[24:02] where before the whole site was one zone, now it's seven. And that will help

[24:06] us capitalize on some credits. Uh but the credits in each zone, zone one is

[24:11] 33.4, zone 1, two, and five, and zone 3 is 11.2, and 4, six, and seven are

[24:16] almost 18. Uh, so we're looking really good in zones one, two, and five, and

[24:20] that's 54% of your credit. So, we're going to hit that pretty hard here with

[24:25] our submission with the evidence that we have that things are going well in

[24:28] sight. And should they agree, we'll we'll get a credit release. So, we'll

[24:33] talk start talking about credits in the next. You got it up. Okay. So,

[24:39] today this is stream corridor is 6.04 acres with no credit and we're going to

[24:43] move that to wet metal and the credit breakdown is below. So we really don't

[24:47] really need to go through that. This just establishment rehabilitation and uh

[24:51] establishment. So just briefly establishments where there it was never

[24:55] wetland and we're making it wetland and that's areas where we had upland soil

[24:58] type that we found on site and we're going to grade that down and make that

[25:02] wetland. Rehabilitation is where we're [clears throat]

[25:07] we have some hydrarology and we're just going to make a little bit better and

[25:10] doesn't have vegetation. So rehabilitate that wetland that's needs a little help.

[25:14] and reestablishments where it's drained and we're bringing everything back

[25:17] vegetation hydrarology.

[25:22] So simpler current release schedule this is this hydraologic lift and no lift and

[25:27] the breakdown through the site. Uh what what allows us to do is shift

[25:33] more credit lease to construction you've already done. So you spend a whole bunch

[25:37] of money out on site and you're not getting a release for it. And that's why

[25:40] we're just kind of stuck in limbo. but we're going to change that with the

[25:44] zoning and with the hydraologic lift. So, you've already done a whole bunch of

[25:48] lift out there. You've done construction, so we're going to ask for

[25:51] that. And we weren't allowed to ask for that before.

[25:55] And then we're asking for the two installments and hydrarology. Don't mind

[25:59] my spelling error, but uh so we're going to ask for that at 15 and 15. And some

[26:03] of the zones will ask for all 30 now because they're meeting it. And should

[26:08] our data on our third third round here will look as well, we'll try to ask for

[26:12] more areas if they qualify. So, we do have our third season spring hydrarology

[26:18] is in. We just have to crunch through it. And then everything works out to be

[26:22] the same as 2022. Nothing's changing. You're not getting any more credits

[26:25] except for the stream core door edition. We're just asking for some of those

[26:30] sooner because you've done a whole bunch of work out there. Why not get some

[26:33] money to pay that back?

[26:38] And then this fall, we'd like to push this hard. We're getting a little late,

[26:42] but it just 1,200 pages takes a little while to get through, but we're there.

[26:46] So, our presubmitt meeting is done, so we don't have to do that. So, we'd like

[26:50] to file this on Wednesday, and then the core will do their notification. They

[26:54] get their review period. We should get our decision in end of September along

[26:58] with a credit release. And then the

[27:03] we have our construction deadline. We really like to get that done in October,

[27:06] November. It's a great time to work on the site. It's always dry and things are

[27:11] going dormant so we're not destroying existing vegetation. So, it's a good

[27:15] time to be out there and even into December can work as long as the weather

[27:19] holds out. But, we do need to bid ahead of the approval. So, I'm fairly

[27:26] confident we'll get this. I talked to heirs about this this morning that we

[27:29] can at least get an initial read from the core on these changes. They wanted a

[27:33] memo briefing in addition to all the changes so they could see what we're

[27:37] proposing and give us initial nod or hey you're crazy hold up but we are pushing

[27:44] it pretty hard but I'm confident we'll get the approval in this. So I would

[27:47] like approval to when we feel get a good feeling about it then to have them work

[27:51] on that so that we don't delay the construction and that second credit

[27:56] release based on construction. And then we don't want to run into winter. So if

[28:00] we can get that that move in that would be helpful. And if it does end up

[28:04] pushing the spring it's not the end of the world but it's a lot easier to work

[28:07] in that site in the the dormant time.

[28:12] Okay. So you've you've earned a lot of credits. We're just stuck in this limbo

[28:15] and you can't get them. So now if we reconfigure all of this, we should be

[28:21] able to do that. Now you constructed outside the stream quarter in 2023.

[28:26] We've monitored the hydraology in 24, 25, and 26. Uh we are still looking at

[28:32] the 26 data after there's all these submissions in. We'll get back to that.

[28:37] But a lot of the areas meeting hydrarology and you've constructed it.

[28:40] So, let's try to get those credits since you've already earned them. Let's do

[28:44] that by changing. We call these rows. So, they're all the different habitat

[28:50] types, the creation we call it, and the restoration and the rehabilitation.

[28:55] They're all different rows. And we have each of these rows in our different

[28:59] areas. And we've met a lot of that. So, let's we'd like to ask for that.

[29:05] And right now, you have about 30 acres that are just all or nothing. And with

[29:09] these changes, we'll be able to ask for quite a bit of that that those credits.

[29:17] Let's see. I'll wait for questions and let's go to

[29:21] the next schedule. So, there's a schedule in here if you want to take a

[29:24] look at this and you can ask me follow-up questions. Uh Alex can send

[29:28] them to me or you can send them. But here's our construction windows broken

[29:32] apart by the different zones. Uh one, two, and five. and three is kind of up

[29:37] in in that first that first schedule. So you see it's a little accelerated on

[29:42] those areas. Four, six, and seven have to wait a little longer because they're

[29:46] not meeting hydrarology. So when you're doing wetland restoration, it's all

[29:50] about the water when when you get the water back and when you don't. So we've

[29:53] got it back in portions of the site, but not all. So we'll have to do two tree

[29:58] planting sessions out there. We'll do the first one hopefully in spring and

[30:02] then the other one I'll have to wait a couple years. um unless they unless they

[30:07] just all of a sudden meet hydrarology. But I don't I don't believe four, six,

[30:11] and seven met it even once yet. So, we'll still have to wait for two seasons

[30:15] before we plant uh plant trees. But, we are going to finish seeding in the

[30:19] areas. So, when this is constructed out, we'll reed the areas that are disturbed

[30:24] and then we'll do an overseeding of additional species on the rest of the

[30:28] site. And that's because we've upped our we've increased our number of species in

[30:33] some of the areas and we've reduced it in others. So we'll have to gain back a

[30:37] few more species. So where there's a lack of species in some areas, we'll

[30:42] oversee. But we're going to count that as complete construction in those areas

[30:46] less the trees and we will be able to ask for those credits now where we

[30:50] couldn't before. And so if you have any follow-up questions on the schedule,

[30:54] just feel free to shoot them over to me. a lot to take in tonight.

[31:01] Okay. So, credits. So, where do they land? So, if we make these changes to

[31:05] your plan and they approve it in zones one, two, and five, we're

[31:10] requesting 2.8 credits. In zone 3, we're requesting 1.1 and 4, six, and seven,

[31:16] we're requesting 1.75. So, that's roughly 5.6 to 5.7 5.65, I think, of

[31:24] credits. That's what we're asking for with this init submission on Wednesday.

[31:28] So, we're going to do them concurrent. We can't ask for it in the document

[31:31] change, but the new rules allow us to run them concurrent together. So, we

[31:35] will ask for them concurrent. And so, hopefully by end of September,

[31:40] you'll get a release of 5.65 acres of credit. And then we're also going to ask

[31:44] for 1.95 acres of asbuilt in the three different zones. So, you've already done

[31:50] that work. Why not ask for it? So, we'll end up with

[31:54] almost eight credits we're being asking for by the end of September.

[31:58] And of course, today you don't have any. So, if we get eight by September, they'd

[32:01] be great. I have projects that need the credits. And then we also have the

[32:06] hydraology that we can ask for for zones one, two, and five and possibly three.

[32:11] So, we'll see how those work out, but we can ask for those this winter. So, we

[32:15] could potentially ask for another 7 point probably seven and a half credits

[32:20] this winter. So you should receive those if all goes well sometime in the uh

[32:25] middle winter, maybe February, towards the end of winter. Uh so you could end

[32:29] up with almost 15 credits by end of February is what we're looking to get

[32:35] here. And then there the rest of the schedule

[32:39] goes down based on when we'll see things. So if we get the planting done

[32:44] on the asbelts, we can ask for some more credit next year. And then we'll have

[32:47] the subsequent plantings in 2029 when we reach hydraology in other areas. And

[32:53] then we'll start looking at our interim vegetation area. I can tell you area

[32:58] despite having cattail area five is already ready on vegetation. That one's

[33:02] probably going to hit. It's definitely passed its interimm one. So that's

[33:05] really good. We can't ask for it quite yet, but that'll be open to us after

[33:09] hydraologies met. So we may be able to start asking for those pretty soon ahead

[33:15] even ahead of this schedule.

[33:18] So very excited about that. And there's other areas of the site that are looking

[33:21] pretty good, but there is a little bit of work to do.

[33:27] Oh, and then just one last note on barriers. We're still not putting them

[33:30] all in because we don't need them all. So we in original submission, we had a

[33:34] staggered construction approach. We put in the initial barriers that we thought

[33:38] were appropriate based on modeling and then we'd see what happens. And

[33:42] that's where we're at. We we saw what happened. We have many areas that meet

[33:46] hydrarology and we have some areas that don't. So that's where we're going back

[33:48] and putting in three three and a half of the barriers that are in the plan as

[33:54] alternates. And then we're leaving out several that we don't need because we're

[33:57] meeting hydrarology. And we saw what happened in the southeast corner when we

[34:02] over put too many barriers in. So that area was already kind of wet when we put

[34:08] the barrier in. It it inundated the whole area. I think I've been calling it

[34:11] Lake Jellen or Lake Asamon, but it looked like a lake for a while. It sits

[34:15] with surface water almost the entire year and now it's actually become a very

[34:19] good varied feature in the landscape and we did talk about filling that with the

[34:25] core but they said don't they'll just do a habitat change later in the process as

[34:30] things develop out. So you'll still get credit for that area just maybe a

[34:34] different type credit type was actually okay because some of the other credit

[34:37] types sell quicker. So, I'm okay with that. And so, we took the off-ramp and

[34:41] and went with them on that. Um, so then here's the

[34:47] on the next slide, we'll go through how they get released. It's this is just

[34:51] it's a little confusing how this all works, but we're modifying your plan to

[34:56] allow us to more quickly release these credits. So, your your bank was

[35:01] frontloaded in the beginning. And what I mean by that is your 10% that was

[35:06] released when you initially signed the agreement wasn't spread across these

[35:10] habitat type. It was geared just to like the upland areas. And so that kind of

[35:14] leaves us in limbo when we're meeting. We have construction completed. Oh, we

[35:18] can't get that 5% on the interim construction. Then we get second

[35:22] construction done. We can't get that. Well, now we can if they approve this

[35:26] new plan. So it'll respspread that 10% out across the whole project instead of

[35:31] just piling everything up on upland areas and upland buffers and

[35:35] enhancement. We'll spread it out across the site and that unlocks a lot of the

[35:39] credits and that's how we're we're able to request these credits and that's done

[35:43] by zone. So now we're zoning out our different credit releases rather than

[35:47] just an all or nothing approach as it was before.

[35:52] So, this just breaks down how what we're eligible for now and that we're going to

[35:55] try and get these near 15 credits. So, we're we're going to submit right away

[36:02] for a good chunk of them and then we'll approve apply for the rest and in the

[36:07] fall winter here.

[36:12] Okay, housekeeping stuff. So, again, we're just changing this to a wooded

[36:16] swamp credit type instead of coniferous swamp and hardwood swamp. So we'll have

[36:20] wooded swamp and we'll have wet meadow and both of those sell. I think your

[36:24] limeville project that you mitigated required hardwood swamp and you had it.

[36:29] So that was really good. Performance standards are being updated. They're

[36:33] following all the new guidances. U the most the biggest change were in the the

[36:37] 2025 Wisconsin mitigation guidelines or which were very favorable changes to

[36:42] you.

[36:45] And I guess I could say we don't have to do these changes. You're not required.

[36:49] your grandfathered in, but I really would recommend doing these. Obviously,

[36:53] we can apply for credits. And then a reference data is really supportive. And

[36:57] this is this is a big change on these this species diversification. It seems

[37:01] like a little thing, but down the road in five years when we're looking at

[37:06] trying to get all of your vegetation credits out, this will have a big impact

[37:10] that we're going to bring this down to 30 species instead of 45. So, that's a

[37:14] big change, but it's supported by the reference wetlands. And in the three

[37:18] different reference wetlands, it's 36, 28, and 31 species. We have an average

[37:22] of 30 roughly species. So that's why we're proposing that. And our seed

[37:27] mixes, we're changing to one seed mix instead of

[37:32] the different mixes we had before. We're changing to one, but we're upping the

[37:35] native species component by another 18 species just to get you that

[37:39] diversification and the need to make it over the threshold down the road. But

[37:43] we'll do some overseating and some spot seating.

[37:48] And just at what things look like again. So the left is a stream corridor.

[37:53] Uh on the right we have volunteer cottonwood and willow coming in. So we

[37:56] have quite a bit of trees out there. They're sp more sporadic and they're not

[38:00] widespread ubiquitous. They're in little patches, but at least that's helpful.

[38:03] They are coming out. They'll save us. I think those will be the trees that are

[38:07] your long live. So we can plant bare roottock, but the seeded ones generally

[38:12] tend to to take over after time. And we have three growing seasons of

[38:17] evidence to support that things are are looking pretty well out there. Next

[38:21] slide. We do have invasive species out there. We have reconer grass in a few

[38:26] large patches, but nothing too crazy out there. And then we have some a little

[38:31] bit of infiltration reconarrass in smaller

[38:35] smaller little patches around the site, but not too

[38:39] concerned about that. Now, we do have a little bit of fragmitees out there on

[38:42] the edges and a few in the center, but that should be able to be taken care of

[38:46] easily by uh spot herbicide treatment. And then we have purple loose thri

[38:50] showing up mostly on the south end. And then there also is also an encroachment,

[38:54] but I'll talk to village staff about how we want to deal with the encroachment by

[38:58] the neighbor and the mowing they're doing. We'll talk to them about but

[39:01] they'll be seeing construction hopefully soon and that'll probably uh end that

[39:05] one because there's going to be some fill on their property line. And then

[39:10] village staff is very helpful on the site. They've done a lot of serving out

[39:13] surveying out there and just general discussions about issues we're having.

[39:18] And then they also made designed and and made these raptor perches which uh my

[39:23] staff says uh raptors use and and and Mrs. Jalen just said that uh they have

[39:28] hawks that utilize those. So that'll become very helpful after we plant the

[39:32] trees. That'll help with rodents out there. as well as a deer fence will help

[39:38] too, but deer tend to break through it sometimes. You still get the rabbits and

[39:41] other rodents and that'll help with uh help with the raptor perches. And then

[39:45] evergreen staff, we've volunteered over 100 hours out out there pulling invasive

[39:50] species and doing monitoring well repair. And what we found, I haven't

[39:54] found this at other sites, but a swamagon, the deer really like to chew

[39:57] on the the cords on the monitoring wells. And they're all they're all

[40:03] sending to two units on site that are all connected to the internet. So when

[40:07] they chew on at least when they chew on it, we know that when something goes

[40:10] down, but they've been eating a lot of the cords. So we've got a fix for that

[40:15] finally though. So we'll And then the deer fence will help too. But we've done

[40:19] a bunch of work out there just to to help the village along in this project.

[40:25] And a lot of these things, the vegetation doesn't matter about the

[40:29] credit releases now. that's a more of a down the road issue when we're trying to

[40:33] meet vegetative standards and those don't come in for a while. So this all

[40:36] this does mean something but doesn't mean anything right now to these credit

[40:40] releases or the hydraology because all that's all independent of this but we do

[40:44] have to keep tabs on the invasive species and make sure we're we're taking

[40:48] care of those. So what I'm asking for you tonight is

[40:52] authorization to go ahead with this refiling because it's a complete revamp

[40:55] of your entire plan. that's entirely different from what we submitted before

[40:59] and was approved. And then to allow us to the engineers to go forth with

[41:04] bidding after we get some sort of positive response from the

[41:09] way we can keep our construction schedule on course

[41:15] and we're meeting everything else. You'll be under your letter of credit

[41:18] and we already have presubmitt and semixing pricing will should be within

[41:23] budget. We haven't seen these significant increases in that and then

[41:26] we'll we'll deal with the rivet stuff. That's the core the core uh system once

[41:31] uh we're approved. So that's the end of my presentation. I'll have you take any

[41:35] questions. It's a lot to take in. It's it's kind of

[41:39] overwhelming to me. I feel really old, but I'm happy this is about done

[41:43] [laughter] but for this submission anyway.

[41:45] » So one one question I had so holding pattern stuck that came up a number of

[41:50] times. So that was the result of of the criteria being that we had to

[41:55] achieve 100% hydrarology across the entire property. Who who who has now

[42:00] changed that rule? >> So those are the old rules in Wisconsin

[42:04] DNR changed those rules and with with uh work with the

[42:08] » and they've all accepted those rules. So we don't have any

[42:11] » this were these change they they said we should change to the new rules. it would

[42:15] be beneficial to us. And so we went through the rules to see where we could

[42:21] apply them everywhere we could apply them. And we've applied them everywhere

[42:24] we can apply them to help you. >> Okay. So um another question. So

[42:29] approval was mentioned. We're looking at approval um September 24th. Is that a

[42:34] hard date or is that could that push or pull or move?

[42:38] » Oh, it depends on if they have any big changes, but generally that would be a

[42:41] hard date. If they're if they're good with the changes, they have a comment

[42:44] period and then they have an approval window and then that would be their

[42:48] approval. So, if they're happy with the changes, which I'm hoping they are, then

[42:52] that would be your deadline. If they're not,

[42:54] » when would we hear if they were happy with the changes?

[42:57] » They have a 15-day comment period. >> So, once you turn it in on Wednesday of

[43:01] this week, >> 15 days from then,

[43:04] » 15 days, they would say either do X, Y, or Z or we're happy with it.

[43:07] » Yeah. I'm hoping to with the memo they'll get us an answer a little

[43:10] quicker. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, they wanted a summary memo. We have

[43:12] that prepared, too. >> Okay. Um, time to get out your crystal

[43:17] ball. >> I wish I could hard date them on that,

[43:20] but if we did a good job here, they should disapprove it.

[43:23] » I'm I'm I'm with you on that one. But chances have changed again

[43:26] » just just because I mean, you know, when we look at this, we've been at this for

[43:30] such a such a long period of time. And you know, with this approval

[43:36] with with this approval being with 100% hydrarology being expected or being

[43:41] expected, I I kind of understand why it got hung up. But now that it's not hung

[43:45] up again, my fear with this, my biggest fear with this has always been the fact

[43:49] that are we going to move forward and all of a sudden wetland mitigation banks

[43:52] aren't going to be a thing anymore? There was a time, wasn't there a time

[43:55] with the with the assembly when they were going to get rid of wetland

[43:58] mitigation banks? >> There was a time, but that's long past.

[44:01] Even the Republicans are are good with these now. So there's no the last

[44:06] changes they were made were positive. >> Yeah.

[44:08] » For mitigation banks. They >> they capped what the inloo fee could

[44:14] [clears throat] go to in fees, which was a good thing

[44:17] for mitigation banks overall because it gave you a way to increase your increase

[44:22] your credit costs and recoup your construction costs.

[44:26] And when our when we revamped all the wetland exemption regulations, we

[44:32] included mitigation in those. And so that's actually been a big driver of

[44:36] mitigation lately are the exemption bills. And I was one of the drafters of

[44:40] that. And we we want to make sure that people had an easier path to filling

[44:46] wetlands that were inconsequential and a mitigation factor behind a lot of those

[44:50] fills. So the non-federal exemptions is one of the big categories of mitigation

[44:54] though. So I don't see this going away anytime soon.

[44:58] » Okay, that's that's Thanks for the crystal ball. Last question then. So

[45:03] species richness. So current species richness in um in zones 76 and 4. You

[45:09] you did you say that was 38 at 38? >> No, they're all down at the 20 30 35

[45:17] » but that's isn't that the requirement? So is it the requirement? 25, 30, and

[45:21] 35. >> 20, 20, 25, and 30 is what we're

[45:23] proposing. The current what you're under now is based on published guidance, and

[45:27] that's 30, 35, and 45. And that's the current one. But we can propose

[45:33] with on-site data that we can't meet that. And so, we have direct evidence

[45:38] that our natural wetlands that are fully functional and what we're striving for

[45:42] don't meet that. >> They maximize out at 20 or 25. Yeah,

[45:45] there's one at 38, there's one at 28, one at 31, I think, and that was done by

[45:51] time meander study and fistic quality analysis that I conducted back in quite

[45:56] a while ago, but okay, it hasn't changed much since. So, since we have direct

[46:00] evidence on site, I expect that one will get approved.

[46:03] » Okay. Um, just one last maybe one last question for Minister Kaker. Do you

[46:07] recall or maybe this is for director dem so far that we've gotten on this was it

[46:12] four >> the more that we sold at $70,000 each

[46:17] » 5.83 3. >> Sorry, was it 53?

[46:19] » It was closer to six. >> Closer to six

[46:22] » and I think they came in at about 70,000 a piece.

[46:25] » It was more than that. I think the 70,000 was for the Lionville project,

[46:28] but >> um

[46:32] » current rates for uh a credit would be closer to 160,000.

[46:38] » Yeah, we we gave a discount to Brown County being

[46:41] » Yeah, we did. >> I remember that. But it was 70,000 and

[46:44] it was four credits [clears throat] >> somewhere around there. Around there.

[46:49] » You have that ability to discount your credit prices.

[46:51] » Uh you you do have one competitor that discounts their prices at Shbboen

[46:55] County, but they only discount their prices for businesses in Shbboen County.

[47:00] » Not only do they not they only discount it, they only sell it to projects within

[47:04] Shboen County. >> Yeah. Yeah. So you do have some

[47:07] competition in Shboen County, but they don't sell outside of that area. Okay.

[47:12] That's all the questions. I'll turn it over to somebody else smarter than me.

[47:16] » Has Shabboan County followed any of these changes too.

[47:21] » I don't know if they have made any changes. I don't know.

[47:25] » They're further established. >> Good question. I don't know the answer

[47:27] to that one if they have. Yeah, they're a little further along.

[47:33] » I'd also add I don't believe the village board needs to take any action. Your

[47:37] role in this project is approving the budget which you have approved the

[47:41] budget. you've approved for construction in 2026. This is more of a

[47:45] administrative engineering modification to the plan and then

[47:50] ultimately the board will have a final say once and if bids come back for

[47:54] construction. Uh and then the the concept about accepting the bidding

[47:59] risk. Again, that's more of an administrative process. Worst case

[48:03] scenario, we let it out for bid. DNR comes back and says, "Oh, you actually

[48:08] can't do X, Y, or Z." we would issue an addendum to that bid package andor void

[48:15] that contract and then rebid it. So there's really not any financial risk uh

[48:20] if you were to to bid it before the final approval came.

[48:24] » Hey, one less thing for you to do. Perfect. Let's come back to you for the

[48:29] money request. >> Well, that answered my question. Thank

[48:32] you. Welcome. Um this I have two questions for you. They're both quick

[48:37] and easy. Um, can the this presentation be added to the minutes or to the packet

[48:43] for the minutes? >> Okay. And we'll add it to the website.

[48:45] So, we have a a web page dedicated to the wetland bank. We can include it and

[48:50] I can send you a copy. >> And um, in general, looking across the

[48:54] entire mass of the space, how wet will it be like in the spring? Is it

[48:59] something you can like walk through and not get wet most of it? or is it kind of

[49:05] like no, it's a pretty much a marsh and you're going to sink in if you try to

[49:09] walk through? >> That's a good question. So, you're going

[49:11] to have all of the above. You're going to have areas that you'll need waiters

[49:16] on to cross and you're going to need areas you're going to be areas you can

[49:18] walk in tennis shoes. So, it just depend but spring is the wetter period. So, I'd

[49:23] expect in spring much of the sites can be pretty squishy, but become Juneish

[49:29] and most of it dries up and you'll have those one really wet areas, those few

[49:33] wet areas. >> That's it. That's all I got.

[49:38] » Others.

[49:48] » I think it was a great update. >> Yeah.

[49:51] » Yeah. Yeah, I'm real I'm happy with this one. This is better than a lot of the

[49:54] other updates. I'm real happy we can make something happen here. You know,

[49:58] we've kind of been languishing that limbo and this uh the new changes gave

[50:02] us a way out and we're taking it. >> I'm just nervous. I'm very very nervous.

[50:07] I mean, because we've been at this for so long and having been in limbo now for

[50:11] so long and dealing with who we're dealing with and

[50:17] the amount of legal hoops um and how things have changed.

[50:23] » I just let's just get this through. >> Yes.

[50:25] » Just get this through. >> If we get this change approved, it's

[50:28] going to make this a lot easier. >> Yeah. And I mean, if we, you know,

[50:33] because at some point, you know, I mean, if we have to look at additional

[50:36] support, you know, to get this through, we we got to get this through

[50:41] » um to to the point where we're not having to deal with other outside

[50:45] agencies and the element of change is gone, right? And then we can just manage

[50:51] the piece of property. >> I'm hopeful and I'm I'm positive right

[50:56] now. >> Okay. good staff, really good people

[50:59] we're working with and they suggested that we take a lot of these changes.

[51:02] » I mean, I still >> even offered to help do it and but I've

[51:05] combed through it. I think I'm happy. I'll I'll take her help, but I want it

[51:08] as an approval. >> I mean, I think there were three of us

[51:10] on this board who were here when this all started when this all started some

[51:14] time ago. Three of us remaining and and I understand that there was trepidation

[51:19] from the very beginning and rightfully so. Um, but you know, in my estimation

[51:25] as we're sitting here today, Besides being a long haul and and how we've been

[51:30] stagnant for so long on this, you know, the dollars when you add up the dollars

[51:35] on this, the dollars still make sense. >> Um, you know, when you're looking at

[51:39] five credits at 70, thou more than $70,000 a year and the potential for it.

[51:44] And then you look at what that land was yielding before that and how that land

[51:48] is going to be preserved for a very long time, representative of what Swamo

[51:52] really truly was. um you know back in the old the very very old days

[51:58] » you know back when we started working mitigation banks it was 16,000 a credit.

[52:03] » Yeah. >> Now your wetland your wet meadow credits

[52:05] are minimum 100,000 and then forested credits can be 130 160.

[52:12] » But you got to preface that because it's like selling something on eBay, right?

[52:15] They're only worth that much if you can find somebody who wants to pay that much

[52:17] for the baseball card. >> But luckily you've got a base that has

[52:21] to buy. [clears throat] Some of them have to buy from you. So at least you

[52:23] have some of that. But it is it's not for the faint of heart. For sure.

[52:27] » Well, that's for sure. >> Mhm. And it takes a long time. But

[52:30] » I would never recommend it to anybody. >> But we'll see.

[52:34] » No, I wouldn't necessarily recommend it unless you have a stomach for a long

[52:39] » It's long range. >> Long approvals and a lot of money sunk

[52:41] into it. >> And it's long range. It's long very long

[52:44] range. I mean, there's there's long range visioning and then there's really

[52:47] long range visioning. And this is >> but they made these changes to make it

[52:52] easier for people to get you good easier to operate. And thank goodness they did

[52:57] because we can have a way out of limbo now.

[52:59] » Thank goodness. >> All right.

[53:02] » Thank you. >> Any followup questions? Just shoot them

[53:04] to Alex or you can email me directly. Happy to help.

[53:08] » Thank you much. >> Thank you.

[53:10] » Good day.

[53:13] » This wetland mitigation bank reminds me of my own mortality. Watching the

[53:18] timeline of this the called legacy projects. Pretty strong likelihood that

[53:21] I won't be here to see this one finish out. But anyway, thank you.

[53:28] » All right, everybody ready to go on? >> Let's do it. All right. Um, we're going

[53:32] on. We are That was a wetland mitigation bank. That was item 5B. We are on to

[53:38] item six, public appearances. This is for anyone in the audience who wishes to

[53:41] come forward and speak to an item not on the agenda. Provide your name and

[53:44] address and let us know what's on your mind. Anyone in the audience who wishes

[53:47] to come forward to speak to an item not on the agenda? Here's your opportunity.

[53:51] Going once. Anyone? Two. Last time.

[53:58] All right. [clears throat] No one here to speak um publicly on an

[54:02] item not on the agenda. That gets us to the consent agenda this evening. Consent

[54:05] agenda consists of previous minutes of the village board dated July 20th, 2026.

[54:11] And uh item B, June 2026 fire department report. Item C, May 2026 animal control

[54:18] report. Item D, uh committee appointments 2026 through 2027.

[54:25] Has everyone had a chance to look at the consent agenda. Are there any questions

[54:28] or discussion on items within the consent agenda?

[54:31] » Motion to approve. >> Second.

[54:33] » Thank you. Trusty Eert has offered a motion to approve and that has been

[54:36] seconded by Trusty Romis. Anyone else?

[54:40] Hearing no other discussion, all those in favor, please signify by saying I.

[54:44] » I. >> And those opposed.

[54:47] » That motion carries six to zero. Very good. Item eight this evening,

[54:53] planning and zoning items 8A is a public hearing. The vill's intent to vacate the

[54:58] unused portion of the rightway of Cardinal Lane being part of the

[55:02] northwest quarter of the northeast quarter of section 33T25NR20E.

[55:09] Zoning Administrator Ducks. >> Thank you. This Cardinal Lane had

[55:13] intersected with both White Pine and Velp um 32205.

[55:19] Um the road was redirected to White Pine west of the Eskanava Lake Superior

[55:26] tracks to alleviate some of the congestion in that develop. Um that

[55:30] portion was discontinued. It has never been formally I guess discontinued

[55:34] rather than vacated. This this is only for the village

[55:39] rightaway portion. We have no utilities in that to discontinue. Any easements

[55:45] for any other utilities will be up to the property owners and release of those

[55:53] should they need that. We do expect that each adjacent property would receive

[55:58] half of the discontinued rightaway.

[56:05] Steve, I know you had talked about the little notch on the corner.

[56:10] Do they have an updated exhibit? >> Yeah, there's an updated exhibit.

[56:14] I put the wrong one in the packet, >> I believe. So, that's okay. As long as

[56:19] it's included in the final version.

[56:25] So the easements for the utilities will remain unless the future owners request

[56:31] through each utility vacation of those easements.

[56:36] » Correct. >> Um

[56:38] either way you look at it that the white pinep corner should be

[56:45] water and sewer, right? They can't just decide not to be.

[56:49] » We're talking about WPS easements. We're talking about cable easements. the

[56:55] actual utilities outside of our jurisdiction,

[56:58] » but it wouldn't be so simple for that future owner to just say, "Nope, don't

[57:02] want water and sewer." So,

[57:05] » there's nothing to do with >> okay,

[57:08] » future water and sewer connections. >> But that that is the plan on that

[57:11] corner. If everything else, >> the plan is for that at some point to

[57:18] develop and be on sewer and water. Yes. >> Okay.

[57:22] This is >> nothing to do with that.

[57:24] » Nothing to do with Okay. >> It's not an easement so that they can't

[57:27] put in sewer and water. >> There you go.

[57:30] » Yeah. >> No, the sewer and water go around go

[57:33] down existing roadways. >> Yeah.

[57:35] » Within our rightway. >> It wouldn't And if you think about, you

[57:38] remember the map we looked at was that last last meeting or whatever, our

[57:43] probably our number one area that we have to, you know, increase sewer and

[57:47] water usage and users is there. All of our sewer and water

[57:54] » construction typically [clears throat] takes place within the rightway, not

[57:57] within utility. >> WPS has a main gas man going through

[58:04] there right now. >> It just the way that's worded could it

[58:07] was vague. Just making sure.

[58:10] » Yep. Other questions?

[58:18] Questions for the good zoning administrator?

[58:22] Hearing none. >> I have one.

[58:26] » Take a compliment when you get it. They don't come that often, even if they're

[58:30] vague. Okay. Um I don't hear any other discussion on this. Is there a motion

[58:34] then on this particular item? >> President Van Ross, you'd have to open

[58:37] the public hearing, ask three times for comment, and then close the public

[58:41] hearing. >> Thank you for the reminder. We've never

[58:45] enforced [clears throat] the three times >> per Robert's rules of order.

[58:49] » Better make sure we do times. >> All right. So, opening this up. Uh, we

[58:53] are in a public hearing, so I don't have to open it up. It's a public hearing.

[58:56] » You would open the floor. >> Motion to open the floor.

[59:01] » Okay. We've got a motion to open the floor for public comment. Is there a

[59:04] second? >> Second. A second from Trusty Andrews.

[59:07] All in favor of opening the floor for public comment signify by saying I.

[59:10] » I. I. >> And those opposed? That motion carries

[59:14] six to zero. The floor is open for public comment. Anyone wishing to make

[59:17] public comment? Is there anyone wishing to make public

[59:21] comment? Hello. Hello. Is there anyone wishing to

[59:26] make public comment? That was three times. There is no one

[59:29] wishing to make public comment. Is there a motion to

[59:32] » motion to close? >> Thank you. Motion to close

[59:35] » the public hearing. And who seconded that?

[59:37] » I did. Trusty Rome seconded that motion to close the public hearing. All those

[59:43] in favor of closing public hearing, please signify by saying I. I.

[59:47] » I. Those opposed. That motion carries six to zero. What would you like us to

[59:52] do now? >> You would move on to item 8B, which is

[59:55] to act on the resolution. >> Excellent. I just wanted to make sure.

[1:00:00] All right. 8B act on resolution 26011 to vacate the unused portion of rightway of

[1:00:07] Cardinal Lane. This will be a roll call vote. Is there any further discussion on

[1:00:11] this particular item? If there is none, I would entertain a motion.

[1:00:14] » Motion to approve resolution 26011 discontinuing a portion of Cardinal Lane

[1:00:21] as detailed in exhibit A. Trusty McKe has offered a motion to uh approve

[1:00:26] resolution 26011 disontinuing a portion of Cardinal Lane

[1:00:31] as detailed in exhibit 8. And I have a second from Trustee Romis on that

[1:00:36] particular item. Last chance for any further discussion, comments

[1:00:41] hearing. None. May we have a roll call, please?

[1:00:44] » Absolutely. Trusty Andrews. >> I.

[1:00:46] » Trusty Eert. >> I.

[1:00:48] » Trusty McKe. >> Hi.

[1:00:49] » Trusty Rome. >> Hi.

[1:00:51] » Trusty Stevens. >> Hi. President Venrazam

[1:00:53] » I. >> Motion carries six to zero. Thank you.

[1:00:59] » Okay.

[1:01:07] Item 8 C this evening is um public hearing municipal code amendment to

[1:01:12] chapter 18 the zoning code to amend 18.04 uh 04 parent 5 parent A. Minimum

[1:01:19] floor area to include the minimum size of a residential dwelling shall be the

[1:01:24] finished space above grade as required by each separate residential or

[1:01:28] agricultural zoning classification. Zoning administrator Dunks.

[1:01:33] » Thank you. Right now the dwelling standards require a minimum floor area

[1:01:38] in that section of a minimum of 1,200 square feet above grade. Our changes

[1:01:43] last year to the residential code when we created the three the sewer district

[1:01:48] code when we created the three separate classifications actually reduce that um

[1:01:54] down to 800 square ft in the RS3 um and we're looking to remove that

[1:01:59] language within 18.04 um to adjust to reflect that change. So,

[1:02:06] we're asking that the minimum floor area,

[1:02:09] minimum size of the residential dwelling shall be the finished space above grade

[1:02:14] as required by each separate residential or agricultural zoning classification.

[1:02:22] It's just more to clean anything up. It's not changing anything. We just

[1:02:25] missed when we did the code changes last year.

[1:02:29] Okay. Questions for zoning administrator

[1:02:33] Dunks? Anyone? Isn't that kind of creating a low rent

[1:02:37] district? >> We're not

[1:02:41] changing anything that wasn't changed already last year at what in July, June,

[1:02:48] whenever we made that. >> I didn't agree with it then either. So,

[1:02:52] » we're not creating a low rent district.

[1:02:59] might be creating with our R3 an area that's more affordable for some to stay

[1:03:06] within the village of Swamo, but that's a totally different discussion and we're

[1:03:10] just trying to clean up the language because we have a conflict in our code

[1:03:14] and it should have been changed along with those changes that went into effect

[1:03:17] last year. All

[1:03:23] right. Additional uh questions or comments for zoning administrator Dunks

[1:03:27] on this? >> Otherwise, being a quick learner, I'll

[1:03:31] look for a motion to open this up for public hearing.

[1:03:34] » So, on the motion, you don't need uh a motion to open the public hearing. You

[1:03:42] » you call for it and then you >> But we had so much fun the last time we

[1:03:45] did it this time. [laughter] >> All right. Never mind. necessary.

[1:03:49] » Trusty Eard doesn't get the opportunity to offer a motion, then I'm sorry.

[1:03:53] » All right, let's open this up for public Let's open this up for public hearing.

[1:03:57] Is there anyone um in the audience who wishes to come forward on this

[1:04:00] particular item, municipal code amendment to chapter 18 of the zoning

[1:04:03] code to amend 18.04, etc., etc. Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to

[1:04:08] come forward and speak on this item?

[1:04:12] [snorts] Welcome.

[1:04:16] » Hello. Uh Tom L 2091 Maggie Lane. So So where do we have the residential zoning

[1:04:25] three area in the village? Last year about this time, we took the

[1:04:32] residential sewer district and we went from residential sewer to

[1:04:40] residential sewer one which encompassed the entire

[1:04:45] old RS zoning. We created the ability to go to an RS2 zoning and an RS3 zoning.

[1:04:53] » So where is RS3? Do you have a map? >> No place right now. Well, you don't have

[1:04:58] a map of it. Okay. >> Well, we haven't created any

[1:05:01] reclassifications. Our expected would be around the Chambers Hill Bar Area would

[1:05:08] be our number one location where we would expect

[1:05:12] more of a a denser population. Um likely multifamily

[1:05:19] as part of that because no >> Well, okay. So,

[1:05:22] » creating traffic. >> I don't. So here's my feeling. So 800

[1:05:28] square ft, we already have apartments in Swamo, right? So the building is more

[1:05:35] than 800 square f feet. Where would we be putting a house that's only 800

[1:05:40] square f feet? I don't think we're going to be putting tiny house houses in

[1:05:46] residential areas in Swamo. >> Our RS3 zoning allows for single family

[1:05:53] homes. Yeah, >> on smaller lots. Those lots wouldn't be

[1:05:57] large enough probably for a 1,200 foot home. They can in RS3, they can have

[1:06:03] single family home, they can have duplex, they can have multifamily. It's

[1:06:07] all by code now instead of all being through PDDs and whatnot. And we've

[1:06:13] already changed that, created that. We have an RS3 classification that allows a

[1:06:20] dwelling unit to be 800 square feet. If it's an apartment building, each

[1:06:26] apartment unit would need to be that 800 square ft, not the entire apartment

[1:06:31] building. It's already created. This is a conflict

[1:06:35] in our code that was overlooked when we did this last year. And it's a cleanup

[1:06:42] of the code. We are not changing how anything else is being implemented.

[1:06:48] This is just a cleanup of code language that [clears throat] was missed when we

[1:06:54] did the thorough code change last year. >> That's when we created RS3.

[1:07:00] » That's when we created the the three separate classifications. Yes.

[1:07:03] » To get rid of the PDDs.

[1:07:09] » Still have >> not to get rid of them, but to make

[1:07:12] » Yeah. the streamline the process. Yes.

[1:07:15] » What's the width of an RS3 again? >> I believe 65

[1:07:23] » about 60 >> 60 to 65.

[1:07:28] » Does >> I mean RS1 is now down to 70. So

[1:07:31] » does this 800 foot require a one stall garage attached to it?

[1:07:38] We still require if it's a onebedroom, they must have a one- stall garage. If

[1:07:44] it's a two-bedroom or greater, they must have a two stall garage.

[1:07:48] That's for all of your RS zonings. And that's not part of this discussion

[1:07:53] tonight. That's something that was already implemented in our

[1:07:57] » I just wanted to know if the 800 square feet included the garage.

[1:08:00] » That's not finished. >> That's notable space.

[1:08:02] » It didn't say >> it says finished space above grade.

[1:08:06] Right. >> It's not a garage.

[1:08:09] » It's creating a ton of apartments basically.

[1:08:11] » Well, I see some nice >> apartment's an apartment,

[1:08:14] » but this is like >> I think that's a like a tiny house type

[1:08:18] situation. >> Not an apartment.

[1:08:21] » Those are gross over generalizations. You don't know that. You don't know that

[1:08:25] it's creating apartments or tiny houses. What it does is it gives us it gives us

[1:08:31] the ability because these are still approved by planning and zoning and

[1:08:35] still approved by there a recommendation made by planning and zoning and approved

[1:08:39] by the board. Any plan that comes forward. What this does is this gives us

[1:08:44] options and gives the community options um if we decide to pursue those options.

[1:08:50] That's the responsibility of every trustee who sits on this board. um and

[1:08:55] citizens get to speak out on it and etc etc depending on where it's at. The idea

[1:09:00] was Chambers Hill, the issue with Chambers Hill is

[1:09:03] [clears throat and cough] a single family dwelling who's going to

[1:09:05] have little kids probably isn't going to spend the amount of money it's going to

[1:09:09] cost for a home to live in back of a bar.

[1:09:13] Now on the other hand, apartments may >> and this was a mechanism

[1:09:16] » possibly >> to when we go through our comprehensive

[1:09:20] plan, we will show those areas more effectively within our new

[1:09:26] comprehensive plan on what areas and what the density we anticipate that

[1:09:33] zoning to be. >> And I think another way to look at this

[1:09:38] 800 square feet is it's a good opportunity for a starter home if a is

[1:09:42] being built at $300 a square foot. The person now wants to spend $240,000 on a

[1:09:48] home. Give a person or give a individual or maybe a couple. Sure, it's small, but

[1:09:54] then what they're doing is they're investing in something instead of paying

[1:09:58] money for rent for an 800 foot apartment. Now, they've got a it's a

[1:10:02] smaller home. Sure. Sure. It's true. Or or maybe they do the 800 square foot and

[1:10:07] they make it a twotory. Think Archie Bunker, right? those those houses used

[1:10:12] to exist. They just didn't have garages. >> And again, this is to clean up something

[1:10:18] that was missed. It's not to change how our code is implemented. We already have

[1:10:23] those three zones. >> I think it builds freedom in for

[1:10:26] individuals to build what they want to build.

[1:10:29] » It builds less freedom for us to be able to

[1:10:34] keep a lot of lowcost housing. >> What what's problem with lowcost

[1:10:38] housing? Because what don't I mean the What my complaint is is we we don't want

[1:10:44] to conflate conflate lowcost housing with some of the other

[1:10:49] problems that we may see in society. >> Okay. Welfare housing.

[1:10:53] » Well, okay. So, if you're but if a person is building an 800 square foot

[1:10:58] house, they're still I mean, we're not we're not talking about um subsidized

[1:11:04] housing. >> I think we are.

[1:11:06] » Well, that's a whole different conversation. Okay. So, we have to

[1:11:10] remember >> house. It's a house that someone can

[1:11:12] afford to build who makes $60,000 a year.

[1:11:16] » You have to remember it's 800 minimum >> and correct. And they could go up to

[1:11:21] » they go whatever they want. Whatever fits on the wall,

[1:11:23] » whatever. >> Let's say it's 1,000 square feet, 1200

[1:11:28] » 1,200. >> Yeah.

[1:11:29] » You know, >> um I mean, you still have to go storm

[1:11:32] water management. you have if you have smaller lots, you have uh more roof per

[1:11:39] the lot. I mean, there's a lot of things that because you got to you got to put

[1:11:44] storm water management in any type of subdivision you put there. So, if you

[1:11:48] put a bunch of small houses, you might have a big pond or a couple ponds

[1:11:53] » on Yeah. retention ponds. You're going to have to have those regardless of if

[1:11:58] you have a small house or big house, but a big lot will have less uh hard surface

[1:12:05] on it than than a than a bunch of small lots.

[1:12:09] » But you also >> So you got to think about that. But I

[1:12:12] mean I have a question for um Alex on this. So was this because of some

[1:12:18] federal requirements that you went to smaller?

[1:12:22] » No. So the this code >> compliance or something.

[1:12:26] » No, Tom. This code change >> is like if in some area of the code we

[1:12:32] had said you can only have red and blue houses and then in another part of the

[1:12:35] code it says you can only have red houses. Well, they're in conflict. So

[1:12:39] that's what's happening here is we have language in two spots that are

[1:12:42] conflicting. We're fixing those conflicting

[1:12:46] issues. That's all we're doing here. We're not adding or changing anything to

[1:12:50] the code. Okay. Well, I guess my questions are answered.

[1:12:55] I >> you know,

[1:12:57] » it'll be a lot of traffic on your county highway.

[1:13:00] » Well, I mean, I worry about the >> I worry about the land right here. We

[1:13:05] could go to tiny houses right behind the village hall.

[1:13:09] » I mean, that's right next to my subdivision, bigger houses.

[1:13:12] » We're we're we're in multiple conversations.

[1:13:16] There has been um many meetings like this, many

[1:13:22] presentations of how we got to the zoning. And so, but we're not talking

[1:13:27] about changing the zoning. And so, I I think I can appreciate, you know, these

[1:13:32] perspectives, but that's not what's being asked tonight. This is really

[1:13:36] about cleaning up the vocabulary that lines up with the zoning, not to debate

[1:13:42] whether the different types of zone and how many square feet we have. That's a

[1:13:45] different conversation.

[1:13:49] » Well, you're doing your comp plan right now, right?

[1:13:51] » We are. Yeah. >> Okay.

[1:13:53] » And I think, you know, let's think about it in a different way. This doesn't have

[1:14:01] to be low income housing. >> This this could be housing for me to

[1:14:09] sell my house and live in Swamo. I only use half my house.

[1:14:15] and be able to the reason a lot of us are our age

[1:14:22] are not selling our house because it's a wash. We go to a smaller house

[1:14:28] and we haven't even gained anything where [snorts] I could finally build a

[1:14:34] smaller house on a smaller lot. I could sell my house and I could pocket some

[1:14:39] money and live in a small place. So think about it for the seniors. I I know

[1:14:45] many people out here in Swamo that are looking for something to downsize. So I

[1:14:52] you got to stop thinking that this is just for lowincome people. It's not. It

[1:14:59] could potentially be a great thing that we don't have in Swamo for older people.

[1:15:05] So I would reference I would reference the comp and for you supervisor Lond I

[1:15:09] mean come to the comprehensive plan meetings that we're having. These are

[1:15:13] the discussions that we're having at the comprehensive plan meetings. The

[1:15:16] discussion that we're having tonight about the zoning RS 1, two, and three

[1:15:19] that was there were discussions all of last year that led up to finally a vote

[1:15:23] last year on that that I think was a six to one vote to change those that to RS

[1:15:30] one, two, and three um at that time. So, and this is just the language as it's

[1:15:36] been stated to clear that up. Now, going forward, you know, what we're going to,

[1:15:40] you know, where we're going to be putting these buildings or how we're

[1:15:44] going to treat, you know, these residential structures, where they're

[1:15:47] going to be. That's the planning and that's the the comprehensive plan

[1:15:51] committee, which has seven citizen representatives and is open to the

[1:15:54] public and meets after every planning and zoning meeting. That's the next step

[1:15:58] that we're starting to move into right now is where are these areas going to

[1:16:02] be? Where is if we have an RS3, where is an RS3? What is an appropriate RS3 area?

[1:16:08] Um, you know, what those are those are the discussions I think coming. And I

[1:16:13] don't think, you know, you talk about tiny houses, Brown County has an

[1:16:16] excellent tiny house development for veterans that they've been working on.

[1:16:20] Terrific. And there has been discussion at the comprehensive plan level um about

[1:16:25] you know do we have any opportunity where we could do something for senior

[1:16:28] housing like that a tiny house development in the village of Swamo I

[1:16:32] think the consensus thus far although there are options is no we don't because

[1:16:36] we just don't have the land for it um but that comprehensive planning

[1:16:42] committee made up of citizens is having those discussions and has a vote in this

[1:16:46] that they make recommendations to the planning and zoning committee which will

[1:16:49] make re recommendations to of this board and then the board will have to make

[1:16:53] those decisions with citizens commenting all along the way. So I think there's I

[1:16:58] think there's a lot of what you're trying to get at and what you're

[1:17:00] interested in. I think there's a lot of that that's undecided and at that level

[1:17:04] right now and you know would benefit from uh public comment

[1:17:10] and that meets every second Tuesday >> or Monday

[1:17:16] second Monday. You're more than welcome to participate. We'd love to hear your

[1:17:19] perspectives. I show up every time.

[1:17:22] » But there is not one next week Monday. >> What?

[1:17:27] » There is not a >> Brown County.

[1:17:31] » Brown County does not have their stuff >> ready

[1:17:33] » ready to present.

[1:17:37] » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you.

[1:17:40] » Okay. All right. Um I'm guessing there's no

[1:17:44] one else, but I'll ask three times just in case. Is there any other public

[1:17:48] comment? >> [clears throat and cough]

[1:17:51] » This is a public hearing. Is there any other public comments?

[1:17:55] Last time public hearing. Is there any other public comment?

[1:18:00] All right. Hearing none, we'll move on to item 8, which is act on ordinance

[1:18:05] 2026-05 to amend chapter 18.04,

[1:18:09] parentth five, parent a minimum floor area. This will be a roll call vote.

[1:18:14] Anything else to uh share? Administrator Dunks. Sorry. Um, yes, Mr. Dunks.

[1:18:22] Anything else to add? >> More than enough has been discussed.

[1:18:27] » Okay. Anyone else with comments on this particular item?

[1:18:34] » Okay. Is there a motion? >> Like to make a motion to approve

[1:18:37] ordinance number 2026-05 modifying 18.04 [clears throat]

[1:18:41] PR five PR a minimum floor area minimum size of a residential dwelling shall be

[1:18:47] the finished above grade as required by each separate residential or

[1:18:52] agricultural zoning classification. Because what this does is this removes

[1:18:56] an inherent conflict inside of our code and references the subsections to

[1:19:01] determine the area.

[1:19:06] » Thank you. That motion was made um in its entirety by uh Trustee Romas. Is

[1:19:11] there a second? >> Second.

[1:19:12] » I have a second from Trustee Andrews on that motion. Last chance for any

[1:19:16] questions or discussion. Roll call, please.

[1:19:21] » Trusty Eckert. >> Nay.

[1:19:23] » Trusty McKifrey. >> I. Trusty Rome.

[1:19:26] » Hi. >> Trusty Stevens.

[1:19:28] » Hi. >> Trusty Andrews.

[1:19:29] » I. >> President Venrazza.

[1:19:31] » I. >> Motion carries 5 to one. Thank you.

[1:19:35] » Okay. Item 8E this evening is also a public hearing. Um it this is a public

[1:19:40] hearing on the municipal code amendment to chapter 17 the subdivision code to

[1:19:45] include the requirement of building elevations on the face of the plat.

[1:19:48] Zoning administrator Dunks if you would. >> Thank you. Um due to um recent issues

[1:19:54] mainly this spring created by the unusually heavy spring rains continued

[1:19:59] [clears throat] staff concern [cough] with additional new homes being

[1:20:02] constructed with at risk situations. Um staff looked at possible adoption of

[1:20:08] language within the subdivision ordinance which would alleviate some of

[1:20:13] these concerns. Um we had some new construction homes with

[1:20:19] um at grade exposed basement windows that took on water during those heavy

[1:20:23] rains. We also had additional homes built after that with the same risks and

[1:20:29] we really don't have anything in our language that we can have that that

[1:20:35] assist us in making sure this does not continue to be an issue. Um so we're

[1:20:41] suggesting that we add 17.05 parents 8 storm water management and drainage

[1:20:48] protections. A would require the minimum minimum

[1:20:53] lowest opening elevations be required for all lots adjacent to a storm water

[1:20:59] management basin drainage easement flood plane natural overland flow or natural

[1:21:05] depression area. Um the storm storm water designer engineer professional

[1:21:11] shall determine or approve a minimum lowest opening elevation.

[1:21:18] B would require that would be the plat requirement. The final plat or certified

[1:21:22] survey map shall explicitly display the required

[1:21:27] minimum lowest opening elevation for each applicable lot.

[1:21:32] Lots subject to this restriction shall be clearly identified on the face of the

[1:21:37] plat with a visual graphic indicator such as a circle lot number and

[1:21:43] accompanied by a mandatory restrictive covenant note and then C for compliance.

[1:21:49] No building permits shall be issued for a structure on a identified lot unless

[1:21:55] the building plans demonstrate that all structural openings including first

[1:21:59] floor sills, basement lookout windows, and egress openings are designed at or

[1:22:05] above the designed minimum lowest opening elevation.

[1:22:11] If the asbuilt elevation is in question, the building inspector may request

[1:22:15] certification from a registered land surveyor and or professional engineer

[1:22:20] prior to issuance of the occupancy permit. Thank you.

[1:22:28] » All right. Are there questions for zoning administrator Dunks

[1:22:33] » on this particular item? >> Could you cl I'm just not sure I

[1:22:37] understood one thing. It says if Could you clarify what the asbuilt elevation

[1:22:42] is derived from? Is that you go there and you is it after it's been built or

[1:22:46] something? You go there. >> The asbuilt is after it's been built.

[1:22:48] » So you go there and you measure it and say, "Hey, you guys were below." All

[1:22:52] right. [snorts] >> If you know

[1:22:54] » I got you. I [clears throat] understand now. That's

[1:23:03] » okay. This is a this is also a public hearing. So, is there anyone in the

[1:23:07] audience who wishes to come forward and speak to this item?

[1:23:12] Anyone in the audience who wishes to come forward and speak to this item?

[1:23:17] Is there anyone who wishes to come forward and speak to this item?

[1:23:22] All right. Hearing none. Uh, are there any further questions on

[1:23:27] this or is there a motion? >> I'll make a motion to approve ordinance

[1:23:30] number 2026 creating chapter 17.05 58 storm water

[1:23:36] management and drainage protections requiring minimum lowest opening

[1:23:39] elevations on flats or certified survey maps to inform property owners and

[1:23:45] builders of a risk that they can. >> Thank you. We have a motion on the floor

[1:23:50] from Trusty Romis that has been seconded by Trustee McKrey for the approval of

[1:23:55] this item um as stated and act on ordinance 2026-06

[1:24:01] to amend chapter 17 of the subdivision code. That motion has been made and

[1:24:06] seconded for approval. Could we have a roll call vote please?

[1:24:09] » Absolutely. >> Trusty McKrey

[1:24:11] » I. >> Trusty Rome.

[1:24:12] » Hi. >> Trustee Stevens.

[1:24:14] » Hi. >> Trustee Andrews.

[1:24:16] » Hi. >> Trusty Eckert.

[1:24:17] » Hi. >> President Benzam. I

[1:24:19] » motion carries six to zero. Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. Item number nine this

[1:24:25] evening is um uh convene into close session per Wisconsin statute 19.85

[1:24:32] parent one parent E deliberating or negotiating the purchasing of public

[1:24:35] properties the investing of public funds or conducting other un other specified

[1:24:40] public business whenever competitive or bargaining reasons require a closed

[1:24:44] session in this case union bargaining. We will also be addressing item B which

[1:24:49] is per Wisconsin state statute 19.85 parent one parent C considering

[1:24:53] employment promotion compensation or performance evaluation data of a public

[1:24:58] employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises

[1:25:02] responsibility. This in this case is the annual village administrator performance

[1:25:06] review. Is there a motion to move into con to convene into close session?

[1:25:12] » Some moved. >> Trusty Romis has offered a motion to

[1:25:14] move into close session. I will offer a second on that.

[1:25:20] Um, all those in favor of moving into Well, we need to roll call. Sorry.

[1:25:25] » Trustee Stevens, >> I.

[1:25:27] » Trusty Andrews, >> I.

[1:25:29] » Trusty Eert. >> Hi.

[1:25:30] » Trusty McKree. >> I.

[1:25:32] » Trusty Rome. >> Hi.

[1:25:33] » President Venzo. >> Hi.

[1:25:35] » Motion carries six to zero. >> Thank you.

2026/08/03 - Suamico Village Board Meeting

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