[2:44] Um,

[2:47] well, if you,

[2:50] it should, it should be fine if you hit the, the add a note button at the time. Does that make sense?

[3:04] Hopefully, everything works out. It's not, I can upload it.

[4:08] What's that?

[28:23] Does that make you happy or do it? You don't miss being the guy in charge saying you've seen your sit down back there.

[28:37] Yeah?

[28:56] What do you do with the heat and the cold controls when two people want something different?

[29:03] It's too hot in here. No, it's too cold.

[29:13] It's always something, right?

[29:15] They make them everybody happy. All right, I would welcome to the June 17,

[29:22] 2026 Summer County Council meeting. I'd like to invite everybody who is able to please stand

[29:27] and join us for the Pledge of Allegiance.

[29:36] and to the Republic, the richest in one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[29:46] All right, the first matter before us is, I got to look at my schedule which got updated about long ago. Let's see.

[30:04] So, these are our interviews for two vacancies on the Eastern Summit County Planning Commission.

[30:13] At first up, we have our good friend, Gail Pace. Please come forward, Gail.

[30:21] Or is there,

[30:25] you know how, you know how this, right in the center, right in the, there are three buttons on the front, the center one.

[30:32] look for the green light.

[30:36] Why don't you see the very light? We're good to go. There you go. Thank you.

[30:40] How are you? I'm great today. Yeah. This place is treating you well. Is still paradise? Yes. Still happy? Yes. I'm glad.

[30:49] That's because it's on you. You know that, right? I know it. This is her district. She takes care. Great care of it. Yeah.

[30:57] I'm going to you've been through this process. So I'm going to turn to my colleague, Megan McKenna, and she's gonna

[31:04] asking some questions and you're getting answer them and we'll move on.

[31:09] Good afternoon, Gail, and thank you for your interest in serving on the Eastern

[31:15] Summit County Planning Commission. I would love to know your interest and

[31:21] maybe for folks that don't know you as well and your services community if you

[31:28] could just describe your interest in serving at this point on the planning

[31:34] Commission. Okay, I am president of the Utah Public Employees Association. I'm

[31:43] representing over 7,000 people in the state of Utah and I am up on the

[31:50] legislature hill meeting with the senators and the house representative quite

[31:57] often. And I am up on what they're proposing. The reason I would like to be on the planning

[32:07] commission is because I would like to make sure, if I was, I would represent the people

[32:15] on the east side. And I would like to make sure that the applicants cross their teas and

[32:23] dotted their eyes and had everything legal and asked questions pertinent to my interest is

[32:33] where are you going to get the water for the subdivision and the sewer, those type of questions

[32:40] representing the citizens on the east side.

[32:46] Great. Thank you. Could you tell us a little bit more about yourself and your

[32:52] background here in in Summit County and why you think you would be a great

[32:56] representative for Eastern Summit County. I had my birthday yesterday. Happy birthday.

[33:03] I turned 80. Wow. I have lived here in Summit County on the east side for 80 years. I was born and raised here.

[33:14] I've raised my family here.

[33:17] I have attempted to represent the county on the fair board as fair as I could.

[33:30] I am on the East Side Planning Commission, excuse me, not the East Side Planning Commission.

[33:38] and the, I

[33:43] forgot what it is, is that?

[33:45] Yeah, and for open space.

[33:51] And I feel I've represented the people

[33:57] and keeping open space going.

[34:02] I'm on the Hoistfeld Cemetery or board at this time.

[34:08] But as I understand it, they have four other applicants applying.

[34:14] My term is up.

[34:16] So I probably won't apply for that.

[34:21] I worked for Summit County for 27 years.

[34:25] I started in the jail here when it was here.

[34:30] and moved over to the new one at Silver Creek and KC,

[34:41] Sheriff KC now just got hired when we moved over there

[34:47] and I was her field training officer.

[34:51] So I have worked for 27 years and we used to walk the towels

[34:58] both say hand.

[35:00] I believe that old Ike Potter walked by me several times. When I was walking along, I heard doors

[35:10] slamming ahead of me, and I worked in the jail. I started in 1966 on the fire department

[35:21] and was on the fire department for 54 years. I worked on the ambulance for Colville for 30 years.

[35:32] And I was vice commander of the search and rescue for about 10 years. I was in the search and

[35:39] you for about 35 years. I'm oriented on being on the east side and the west side. Our

[35:51] ranch is over for the Justice Center as we own on both sides of the promontory. So that's all right.

[36:00] Well, thank you so much, Gail. I really appreciate your willingness to serve and all that you've done for

[36:05] for the county in your 80 years.

[36:08] And happy birthday.

[36:09] I'll go ahead and pass it to my colleague.

[36:11] Cause we're ever answered.

[36:15] That's an impressive resume, Gail.

[36:19] Thank you for all of the work that you've done.

[36:21] What is it about the planning commission?

[36:24] Besides maybe you could talk to legislatures about some things.

[36:29] What is it that really motivates you about the planning commission?

[36:32] As I understand, there is a subdivision going in Brown's Canyon and I want to make

[36:42] sure that that particular subdivision is created to adjust to rural life.

[36:56] You put a subdivision in and all of a sudden you have animals going through their fields

[37:02] and there's a lot right next to their house. I want people to understand that they are going to be in the

[37:12] wilderness, basically. There's going to be animals there. And like I said before, I want to make

[37:20] sure that they're properly getting water and sewer whatever it takes on that. That's just one big

[37:29] subdivision. The smaller subdivisions, I want to make sure, again, that they are crossing

[37:40] their teeth and dotting their eyes, I want to make sure that they're legal and I want

[37:47] to help them if they're not, you know, if they're, if I can. And I want them, I've seen

[37:54] them get up in their meetings and be nervous and shaken, and I want to represent them by

[38:05] making them feel comfortable and not be nervous so they can present a subdivision to small

[38:14] subdivision too.

[38:15] Okay. Well, so right now you're the chair of the Norsema seniors. You're on that other committee

[38:23] that you mentioned, I forget the name of it, what else are you involved in anything else

[38:28] right now? Just the eSAP and the cemetery board and the...

[38:35] Oh right, the cemetery board. We need to talk about the Hoistle Cemetery, but we'll do that

[38:38] offline. Yeah. Anyway, thank you very much for everything that you have done and that you

[38:46] continue to do. Really appreciate it. We need more people like you being willing to step

[38:51] up and donate time and be involved. Thank you.

[38:58] Do we have Chris Robinson online, Brian?

[39:03] Neither he nor canis have joined at this point.

[39:08] Okay.

[39:11] Deal looking around it, especially in North Summit, you've got Colville and Colville's

[39:20] got some development going on, Colville's having to wrestle with what Wauholy I guess is

[39:26] going to be at this point. I don't know, Wauholy's wrestling with the same thing. The Red

[39:33] Hill development, I assume, that's still moving forward in some regard.

[39:38] Yes, I saw the day they had begged for home basements and that ford the cement and a truck

[39:47] come in with lumber to start building a house, the first house, and then there's three

[39:53] that's there and they've got the roads, the inner space, all in there, the roads are paved,

[39:58] the government.

[40:00] And so it's, it's, it's coming along, yes. And I think that's a hundred or 150 units. Is that, do you know what it is? I remember. Yeah. 300. Is it? So I mean, blow us is the more expansive ivory homes up up this to the south of red hills. And that was part of the cedar crest conversation. No, it's, I don't believe it. It's a different one. It's additional. So.

[40:29] So as you look around, what do you think the community, both in North and South Summit,

[40:36] if you had to list the priorities of the kind of development that you would like to see

[40:41] come into these areas, what would you be looking for if you had your magic wand

[40:45] and said, build this for me, it would make our community better?

[40:50] I would say affordable housing.

[40:53] And you put a subdivision, a bit large subdivision in.

[40:58] You've got to have expensive houses built for to make their money, but they also should

[41:08] have the affordable housing and attract people to come in here to spend their money in

[41:17] some in county by offering affordable housing.

[41:22] I want to make sure that they have the lofts

[41:27] to make their money with,

[41:28] and for the subdivision,

[41:32] they need to have affordable housing.

[41:35] Who would you build that housing for in?

[41:37] One of the reasons I'm asking the question is,

[41:39] are from an Ag standpoint,

[41:43] are the next generation,

[41:46] or even the generation, the current generation,

[41:49] the grandkids of the original farmers

[41:51] and the great grandkids of the real original farmers

[41:54] and ranchers here.

[41:56] Are they coming back?

[41:57] Are they coming?

[41:57] Are they in other parts of the country coming back

[42:01] to live here, but maybe work outside of this?

[42:04] How many are coming back for ag purposes, do you know?

[42:07] That's what I would like to see.

[42:10] They would work elsewhere and still spend their money

[42:15] in Summit County. And if they had affordable housing and apartments, maybe that's a possibility,

[42:25] you know, that instead of houses, apartment buildings might be something to attract people

[42:33] to come in and buy a house and reside here in Summit County. Sure, we've been hearing that for a

[42:41] time. Why can't I build a house on my own ranch for my kids? That's one of the first questions.

[42:48] I think I got a still long time ago. Okay. Well, we know you. We appreciate you and everything

[42:56] you've done will be making a decision today. Okay. And we'll let you know. Thanks. As always,

[43:01] you show up when we need something and need somebody and you're there ready willing all the time

[43:07] to give a night and really appreciate it very much and to have the council in the county.

[43:11] Thank you.

[43:12] Thank you.

[43:13] And happy birthday.

[43:15] Surround number.

[43:16] It's a good number.

[43:18] Okay.

[43:19] Do we have John Oliver?

[43:23] John?

[43:26] Is John online?

[43:28] Uh, no, Mr. J.

[43:30] Oh.

[43:42] Okay.

[43:43] I mean, my computer decided to restart, so, hey,

[43:59] I must have known.

[44:00] We

[44:22] can't be penalized for our incredible efficiency,

[44:34] right, boiling expectations all the time.

[44:45] Chair, maybe for the sake of the public, you could explain why this schedule has changed from what was posted online.

[44:54] Sure. Yeah, we had two people Rebecca and I don't recall Rebecca's last name.

[45:00] On the top of my head, I'm not working at that sheet. And Michelle Eastman, we're also applicants for these positions. And we are only allowed to have two people on each of the planning commissions that reside in municipalities. So have we already have two municipal residents on the eastern southern county planning commission. So the only people there can occupy.

[45:29] by the two vacancies are people that live in unincorporated

[45:33] some of county.

[45:34] So we let them know that, hello, speak, look it's you, yeah.

[45:38] They're all dressed up.

[45:40] Nice.

[45:42] So we had conversations with them and let them know this morning

[45:46] that we work together to accommodate them.

[45:49] So they will, I believe, reapply

[45:53] when and if those positions open,

[45:56] I think they were good candidates

[45:58] And we hate to foil their candidates, but it's just the way it worked out this time.

[46:05] So, trying anything yet, we're however still five minutes for anything.

[46:10] And not at this time, Mr. Chair.

[46:14] We'll wait a second.

[46:18] Actually, Terry.

[46:20] Terry here?

[46:21] My Terry.

[46:22] Once you come on up, let's go ahead and get you going and hopefully John will be tolerant

[46:28] of that decision.

[46:30] How are you?

[46:31] Yeah,

[46:35] of course. Tell me a little bit about you. Tell me where you're from, what you do.

[46:45] There we go.

[46:48] Harry Distan, B-I-S-T-O-N.

[46:53] So, I am a life-long Southern County resident. I had a business in Wyoming for about 17 years,

[47:00] which we were the largest contractor for the North American Oil and Gas for BP, and then move back.

[47:05] we've always had ground here and always resided in the county.

[47:10] Move back.

[47:11] I am now doing real estate here throughout the county and doing some entitlement on property.

[47:17] I sit on the three boards for conservation.

[47:19] I got back and wanted to understand more of that.

[47:21] So on the ESAP OSAC and then the summer land conservancy.

[47:24] Summer land conservancy.

[47:25] I just recently stepped off.

[47:27] We are now putting our land into a conservation, isn't it a part of that anyway.

[47:32] So I guess the biggest thing for me in Summit County, I want to be a

[47:37] Stuart to the land and land owners that part of that come from understanding the

[47:40] conservation and the easement but also in the development side. There's there's a

[47:45] big need for that that we've talked about over the years and different

[47:48] things like that. So that has a little bit about me. That's all very impressive. Thank

[47:53] you very much. I appreciate it.

[47:55] Thank you.

[47:58] Terry, thanks for being here today.

[48:01] Why are you interested in being on the planning commission?

[48:05] As I was in here when you talked to Gell about that,

[48:10] I wanted to be involved in it for some time.

[48:13] The conservation was the first site I got onto,

[48:15] but I want to help out not only landowners for the current landowners

[48:20] to do exactly that.

[48:21] be able to build or divide or subdivide in at least a manner that's good and give the property rights or at least the property owners rights their property or title one but at the same time we need to do it to where we can have that housing.

[48:39] As Gail I got asked about housing here, we went up with Blake Moore, our senator to the monastery.

[48:49] And we did a study up there for him and we haven't sold a house in two years and I would have been two years prior to this to an in state resident.

[48:57] So some of some of not being able to entitle property and that has led us to where we're at now.

[49:05] We are getting a lot of outside residents, which is not a bad thing. But at the same time, we need to at least provide a chance for land or so.

[49:11] So I will always wanted to chance to be on this board to at least be a good

[49:16] steward to the county. We're getting limited on water. We need to do things

[49:20] right as far as that goes. But at the same time being advocate for property owner

[49:25] and property rights for them. So that is why I want to be here. It is to be a good

[49:29] steward to not only the water but the property owners just like myself to have

[49:33] that opportunity if that presents itself or if they are so entitled.

[49:37] So you live in unincorporated cement county and where do you live?

[49:42] Out in Hennifer, Franklin Canyon is where we're out, which is the water source for Hennifer

[49:47] Town.

[49:47] So we do a lot with Hennifer Town on the water source there, so we just live at the base

[49:51] of Franklin Canyon in Hennifer.

[49:53] Okay, very good.

[49:55] So, you've been on other boards, so you understand.

[50:00] And the dynamics of working with other boards, what do you feel, what characteristics do you feel you bring to the table?

[50:09] Hopefully the understanding of the hard decisions that it will be based on both sides. Sometimes just like yourself on the board, there's hard yeses in this hard knows. And hopefully having the dynamics and understanding those boards that we went along to help out where we can, but at the same time we have policies and procedures to also watch out for the county and the board.

[50:31] I think hopefully that's a dynamic I bring to even if there's a no to present enough

[50:36] interformation a communication to whoever it is to say this is why we're doing this it's not a

[50:41] personal thing is anything else I I hope that's the biggest I hope that's the biggest thing I

[50:47] would bring to the board is at least an understanding of why those decisions are being made.

[50:52] Okay and you have a background in construction a little bit. I do I do we did an entitlement

[50:56] construction all through the out the oil field we did most all of that for BP and

[51:02] five or six other major oil and gas companies out there. So a pretty good career throughout

[51:06] in oil field and construction as well as that. Great. Thank you again for applying.

[51:12] That's all I have. Thank you.

[51:13] Guys, remember Robinson?

[51:19] Yeah, I see you've been in Warm Sutter. I was through there yesterday.

[51:24] very pleasant.

[51:28] And so which of these, I mean, I saw your list of different skills and

[51:35] things, but which ones would you highlight as being valuable to the Planning Commission?

[51:44] I think some of those we talked about earlier, but adding in there the emphasis on water

[51:49] infrastructure, and then also the zoning in which the council is laid forward. As we've

[51:57] move just like we had to in the oil field, there are some of our communities that have

[52:01] moved from part-time communities, summer communities to full-time communities, and those

[52:05] are presented their own problems with septic or different things like that that we had

[52:08] to do with.

[52:09] I think the council has done a great job at mitigating future for that.

[52:13] Hey, we've got to do this for a watch out for water.

[52:15] So of the skills laid forward, I hope a good understanding of the progress that has to happen

[52:22] versus the process that wants to happen through landowners.

[52:25] There's not, and I think there's a good interface right now of things people want to do versus things we can do and that comes with even paper water versus versus liquid water water sources.

[52:35] So at all the skills, hopefully the understanding of that change in dynamics.

[52:40] You said you were born and raised in some of county five years in central Wyoming, but other than that, you've pretty much been in this far the world working at wholesome.

[52:51] I guess you is easy commute from anaphyr.

[52:54] very easy. You have time to do this job. I believe so. Most of my time has been trying

[53:01] to look at and do real estate. Real estate has always been the number one there as I was

[53:07] to transfer back here. I didn't think I would ever work for someone again under a company.

[53:11] But real estate is the full time and truly the passion there. So I truly believe that

[53:17] and I talked along with my wife about making sure I had time. And as I'm making transfer

[53:22] from some land conservancy, which is a big part of my life to this. There's time, and

[53:28] I think the passion there to make sure there's enough time to do.

[53:32] You do real estate after hours from your wholesome, or you've on 4-10, or something at wholesome.

[53:38] We work about half a month, about 15 days. Basically, we were there for taking care of the

[53:44] explosives, and we were part time. Now, it's full time, but we're only about 15 days a month.

[53:48] So, it's really only half the month and it's not a 4-10, but it's an alternating scheduled

[53:54] where you're really off 15 days a month.

[53:58] Right.

[53:59] Thank you.

[54:00] Thanks, Teri.

[54:01] I think I can beat you up with some more questions, but I think they covered everything.

[54:06] I appreciate you flying.

[54:08] I'm sorry, Megan.

[54:10] I thought I just started with you.

[54:11] My apologies.

[54:12] No, I lost track.

[54:13] That's all right.

[54:14] I started the last one.

[54:15] And thank you, Terry, really appreciate your willingness and interest to serve.

[54:22] As Roger mentioned, I think my colleagues hit some of the big questions.

[54:27] I guess what I would ask and as someone who knows the area well and as followed the current

[54:35] issues, what would you say from a planning perspective would be the greatest challenges that

[54:42] that eastern summit county is faced with and what do you hope to, in serving, hope to

[54:48] contribute?

[54:51] Probably the largest, both in the municipality and the county right now is water and water

[54:56] sources, transferring of water.

[54:59] or the bundle of...

[55:08] I think most places are pushing back and making you have water, water shares, and if not, an actual liquid source. So I think making some of those places able to develop that would have an actual water source versus the paper water to have a transfer that. I think that's going to be probably our largest. This year, this year alone probably will probably be the largest.

[55:29] probably see some of those faces where most all of the water sources are spring fed in

[55:34] somewhere or another. We don't we don't catch a lot of water most of our spring sources.

[55:38] I think that's going to be our largest one is is making people even if they have the right

[55:43] we've got to have that water right or liquid water there and then in a drainage to where

[55:47] that back can be feasible. I think that's probably one of the biggest things we've faced is

[55:51] making sure that there's a liquid water to go along with the development no matter how

[55:55] that is, no matter if they're zoned or we make an exception for an AG 120 or an 80 or

[56:00] whatever else, making sure that we can facilitate that within the county.

[56:05] Whether that be wells, the weaver or just spring source water.

[56:09] Okay, and with your service, what do you hope to contribute to the planning commission or

[56:17] what legacy maybe would you hope to leave behind in your service?

[56:21] I think the legacy I would hope to leave behind is exactly that, that the advocate for the

[56:28] property rights of the current landowners, but at the same side, that foresight for the

[56:34] future of the conservation side of it, we have to have those houses like Yellowstone.

[56:40] We have to be not so scared of doing some consolidate housing, some developments with actual affordable

[56:46] income housing, whether that be apartments or anything else, but at the same time looking

[56:51] for the future. I really think that we want to get back to having property owners feel like they're

[56:55] they have an advocate but at the same time still following the procedures that we've set forth

[57:00] for all the water. We've had our issues and that like say that the council has done a great job at

[57:05] mitigating that in the future but but that's the legacy I'd like to leave behind as there is an

[57:09] advocate for for the current landowners whether that be an actual developer or if that's just a farmer

[57:14] that says hey I want to do five or six houses because I have that many kids in the responsible at least

[57:19] There's still a responsible way for however we do that.

[57:22] Well, thank you.

[57:23] Again, Terry, really appreciate your interest to serve.

[57:28] We'll be making a decision this afternoon.

[57:32] And we'll let you know.

[57:33] Perfect.

[57:34] Thank you.

[57:34] Thank you for your time and consideration.

[57:36] Really appreciate it.

[57:37] Andy, if for any reason this doesn't happen, we have three positions or three applicants for two positions.

[57:42] So, you know, I think you got a shot.

[57:46] But if not, we're going to draft this up myself.

[57:48] Charles, thank you.

[57:52] Do we have John? Brian? Did I come in light and you already interviewed

[57:58] a couple of the candidates? Wait, Gail. And Michelle and Rebecca are not eligible because

[58:04] they are municipal residents when we already... I saw it. I didn't know. We'll be

[58:09] affect to that. What was Gail? Yes, it's not online. On my list it says he's supposed

[58:14] to be in person. Yeah no I agree but that was a few minutes ago anyway so we'll give

[58:22] him a few minutes. We're gonna have a big gap of time anyway so we didn't get the time adjusted

[58:27] when we adjusted. And Nat are you listening?

[58:33] Did you give Jonathan? She can't talk because she's

[58:37] in the attendee's side.

[58:40] It's going to be a given call.

[58:41] And that client, I hope we heard,

[58:44] is wondering if you could hear Johnicle nod to yourself

[58:49] if so.

[59:17] We're trying to move back into a house.

[59:19] It is filled with drywall dust.

[59:21] It's still a construction site.

[59:24] They're not punished.

[59:28] It's all moved.

[1:00:37] Is that Harley Davidson Sanderson?

[1:11:11] We're going to close, and Brian, I think, I've been going to Brian, I think you can contact him, but, uh, if we were to make a decision for this little part of the slide, for the first few of the slides, I mean, if that's the case, I'm going to speak, but I am asking you, you know, my job, if that's the case, we're trying to do what it will feel like. Maybe we're going to have an effect, you do not.

[1:12:08] I'm sorry.

[1:12:09] I have to do that for a while.

[1:12:10] I see, but I was in that area over there at the end.

[1:12:15] It's really funny.

[1:12:17] So I'm going to throw a smoothie call.

[1:12:19] Brian, you get back on?

[1:12:23] Brian, are we back on?

[1:12:27] Yes, Mr. Chair.

[1:12:33] Let's move on to the next item.

[1:12:35] Well, maybe too early to do that.

[1:12:37] When is Lori's not here until 415?

[1:12:41] So we've just got a lot of time to kill.

[1:12:43] So why don't we just hang around close? We'll stand in recess. I don't see anything

[1:12:53] we can pop forward. We'll stand in recess until our next segment, 415, unless we hear

[1:13:02] from the candidate. And if we hear from the candidate, everybody stick fairly close and

[1:13:11] And I think his last line in the movie is, now what will we do?

[1:13:17] What about what I want to do?

[1:13:19] What about the nomination?

[1:13:22] Okay, so we'll stand in recess until 415 with the proviso that if we're able to locate Mr. Olive

[1:13:31] and he's available for an interview we will have his interview at some point before 415

[1:13:38] or potentially after depending on his availability.

[1:13:41] And that, if you're listening,

[1:13:43] put a private investigator down on the man, find him,

[1:13:48] drag him before the council so the week in interview.

[1:13:52] Talk to you soon.

[1:15:45] . .

[1:16:00] .

[1:17:38] . . . . . . . .

[1:17:52] Well,

[1:17:55] how many people are eligible to vote? You need to district 10, 12, 15, depending on who you had as a guest at

[1:18:05] dinner last night.

[1:18:09] Yeah, he's the one that told me that he's coming in.

[1:18:19] See him. Mr. Chair, he joined and I tried to promote him and now he's disappeared.

[1:18:27] Okay. I'll watch for him to come back and get him in there for you.

[1:18:32] Be nice to him. You know me. I know you. That's why I said be nice to him.

[1:18:44] Be nice.

[1:18:57] Thanks for watching.

[1:18:59] Good night.

[1:21:29] Yes, a good guy.

[1:22:52] Hello, is the zoo working now?

[1:22:57] Can you hear me?

[1:23:02] I should be unmuted.

[1:23:05] Hi, Janet.

[1:23:07] Oh, hi. Can you hear me okay?

[1:23:10] We can hear you just perfectly.

[1:23:12] Oh, thank you.

[1:23:13] Yeah, sorry about the misunderstanding.

[1:23:16] Yes, how do you want to start?

[1:23:19] Well, I'd like to start by saying thank you for applying.

[1:23:23] I'd like you to turn your camera on if you would please.

[1:23:26] Yeah, sure. Let me see how I do that. We need to see you because in these days of AI, your voice could go away.

[1:23:35] Okay. Let's see. How do I turn my camera on?

[1:23:43] It's a minute. Sorry. I'm not an expert on the zoom.

[1:23:48] You see a little icon usually on the bottom left. It looks like a camera.

[1:23:52] Mr. White, you may actually be a little lime fluid if there is, if you touch step on Mr.

[1:24:02] Chair.

[1:24:03] If I may explain, he is on a phone and so I've just allowed him to talk because the

[1:24:10] last two times I tried to promote him, it bounced him off.

[1:24:18] Well, I can assure you, I'm not AI, I'm a real person.

[1:24:26] I can probably text you a photo if that helps, if you want to see what I look like.

[1:24:32] Well, I don't think we need to do that.

[1:24:36] Okay.

[1:24:38] We'll go ahead and take a chance.

[1:24:40] So John, tell me a little bit about yourself in your own words and let us know why you think you want to join this particular commission.

[1:24:52] Okay, so as you can probably tell from my accent I grew up in the UK.

[1:25:00] But I came to the U.S. to do a master's degree at UCLA, and basically I stayed. That was in the 90s.

[1:25:09] And I bought a house, became a U.S. citizen, and I bought a house in Browns Canyon in 2021,

[1:25:15] just before the union picks. So, and I lived there for about four years, and I had it as a vacation

[1:25:27] house and then I move back to the house in Browns Canyon when COVID happened. I'm a financial

[1:25:37] analyst for an insurance company. I'm still working. I'm not retired yet. I guess I've

[1:25:47] gradually become aware of the importance of planning both through sort of indirect things

[1:25:56] and direct things. The direct things are various plans for development in Browns Canyon,

[1:26:05] which you're probably aware of, the Rodgers Ranch Supply for Resoning. That's one thing that

[1:26:14] made me aware of the importance of it. Then the other thing is I've been concerned about things

[1:26:23] like climate change for a while, and I think it's important that our communities are planned

[1:26:30] in a way that they can adapt to that. So those are the sort of, I guess, principal motivations

[1:26:39] for me.

[1:26:43] What else can I say? I've obviously been an executive in an insurance company,

[1:26:50] so I'm sort of fairly aware of the sort of corporate world and how it works. I'm less

[1:26:57] aware of the sort of not-profit world and the world of the councils, but you know, I'm

[1:27:05] enthusiastic to learn.

[1:27:08] I guess those are sort of in a nutshell my, you know, a bit about

[1:27:14] me and my motivations. Yeah, I live permanently in, in Summit County and in Browse Canyon. And

[1:27:26] I guess like a lot of the people here, my main sort of hobby is outdoor things, fishing,

[1:27:33] skiing and hiking and mountain biking. Either my wife's coach at Deer Valley and tennis coach at

[1:27:43] Mark and I have a daughter who's at the U studying pre-made.

[1:27:51] Yeah, that's sort of a brief summary of kind of who I am.

[1:27:55] Good summary. Thank you very much. I'm going to now turn you over to my fellow council

[1:28:01] members and we have got some questions for you as well. So first I'll ask council member McKenna.

[1:28:08] Thank you. Thank you, John, for your interest in serving on the Eastern Summit County Planning

[1:28:17] Commission. I guess my question for you would be, have you attended planning commission

[1:28:23] meetings? Are you familiar with the role of the planning commission and what skills specifically

[1:28:31] do you think with your background and experience would you bring to that body?

[1:28:37] Okay, yes, I have attended planning committee meetings, so the first one I went to with

[1:28:45] a number of years ago and was when the promontory, the plan, they wanted to change their development

[1:28:54] plan, and instead of having a couple of hundred houses, the top of Brown's Canyon, they wanted

[1:29:01] to have more, several maybe I think about a thousand. I've attended a number in Zoom where we weren't

[1:29:12] allowed to, you know, it was just listening, concerning the Rogers and Ivory Holmes development,

[1:29:21] and I've attended some in for Snyderville Basin because I was interested in what was going on

[1:29:32] of the junction. So those are the ones I've attended. So I have some idea about how the planning

[1:29:38] commission works. I think the main thing that I could bring is compared with other people is

[1:29:49] You know, I have pretty good analytical skills from my job.

[1:29:54] You know, I understand finance and I understand.

[1:30:00] I understand numbers, and I have had some training in things like climate change. I did some courses

[1:30:09] at UCLA on those. So I think that's what I will bring Council Member.

[1:30:17] Great. Thank you. I'll go ahead and pass it along to my colleagues. Appreciate your interest.

[1:30:22] Thank you.

[1:30:25] Thank you so much for applying and being willing to be involved in our community.

[1:30:32] Are you on—have you been on any other boards or committees anywhere in the city area

[1:30:39] or anywhere for that matter?

[1:30:41] Yes.

[1:30:43] I'm on the board of Temple Harshalam, the Jewish synagogue, and I'm on the investment

[1:30:50] committee as well as Temple Harshalam, but I've never had a political role.

[1:30:59] Okay. That's fine. Is your neighbor Zé Fad in Brown's Canyon? Yes. He lives about

[1:31:08] half a mile from me. A bit higher up. But yeah, I know Zé Fad and his wife Lola well.

[1:31:15] Okay. Yeah. I was just trying to get a gauge of his galley where you were. I have a pretty good idea now.

[1:31:20] Now, it sounds like the planning commission meetings you have attended are worth for some

[1:31:29] controversial subdivisions going on in your name and around.

[1:31:37] So what about other items besides controversial developments?

[1:31:45] Have you been involved in anything else, specifically planning?

[1:31:51] No, I haven't directly, it's not directly with you, but I've had some involvement

[1:32:01] with development of trails in the Park City area, but I haven't and I've followed at some

[1:32:13] of the meetings that have either tended where they discuss controversial things. They've

[1:32:19] also discussed things like people building a horse barns and having riding centres and

[1:32:26] things like that. So my own interest I'm afraid has tended to be on things that concern

[1:32:33] me directly up to now or that I'm interested in.

[1:32:36] Okay, that's fair. What have you learned from attending those meetings? What do you take

[1:32:42] takeaways.

[1:32:45] Well, my takeaways are really this sort of need to have balanced the various,

[1:32:56] the sort of local and controversial things. It seems a lot of it is the need to balance

[1:33:04] the concerns of neighbours and the concerns of the person who wants to do some form of development

[1:33:12] on their property or change their property. So it's a kind of balance of, I guess,

[1:33:19] individuals' property rights against the concerns of neighbours. And I appreciate that.

[1:33:26] I can understand why it's important.

[1:33:31] Okay, thank you very much. I appreciate your time.

[1:33:35] No worries.

[1:33:41] Thank you for applying.

[1:33:45] I think that you have a very interesting background and skill set, and I do not think

[1:33:57] I have any questions for you.

[1:33:59] I think you're impressed with your willingness to serve and with what you bring.

[1:34:08] Okay, yeah, well, thank you, sir.

[1:34:12] So John is Roger again, man, let me just check.

[1:34:16] Canis, how are you back with us?

[1:34:20] No, canis, just checking.

[1:34:23] John, do you have time to do this?

[1:34:26] Sure, I can stay, I've got time.

[1:34:30] No, do you have time to serve on the commission?

[1:34:32] Oh, sorry, yes, yeah.

[1:34:40] My work schedule is very flexible, and so I spoke, I think it was Amy about the time

[1:34:50] requirements, and I don't think there would be any difficulty for me.

[1:34:53] The only problem I have is when, you know, I need to attend.

[1:35:05] So, the commission meets about every two weeks, and the, depending on what their goal is, it can be a fair amount of packet material, you know, for things that are complicated. It could be hundreds of pages of.

[1:35:23] to have to read before a meeting, you know, you kind of go from there and then the meetings

[1:35:31] can be, you know, fairly involved. The Eastern Summit County Planning Commission is not

[1:35:37] just processing applications at this point, but it's also going through a rewrite of the

[1:35:45] Eastern Summit County General Plan as well because both planning commissions are undertaking

[1:35:52] those efforts right now. So I anticipate that over the next couple of years it will be a pretty

[1:36:02] demanding requirement in terms of just the amount of time that it will take to kind of establish be.

[1:36:12] So that's really the only consideration if you've got the time. I just want you to consider that.

[1:36:20] Yes. Well, thank you for that.

[1:36:23] As I say, I don't think the time to say is an issue.

[1:36:28] It's more that because I'm still working, you know, I kind of need notice the things in

[1:36:38] working hours so that I can rearrange my schedule around meetings.

[1:36:43] I think that's right. I don't know that there's going to be a lot of time during the day

[1:36:47] that you would have to do. But, you know, as well as if they could come up. But I think it's

[1:36:54] generally a pretty set schedule. An exception may be, for example, that the council had a meeting with

[1:37:02] each of the planning commissions over the last couple of months and that's rather than meeting on

[1:37:09] the regular meeting day for the commissions. They had an extra meeting or an alternative meeting

[1:37:15] with the county council on a Wednesday.

[1:37:18] So that doesn't happen, we'd like to happen more frequently

[1:37:22] than it has been, but it's not something

[1:37:26] that comes up several times a year.

[1:37:28] So I think the cadence of the meetings

[1:37:33] are what they are and probably won't surprise you.

[1:37:36] So I think that sounds like it's manageable for you.

[1:37:40] Yeah, yeah, that should be okay.

[1:37:43] All right.

[1:37:44] All right.

[1:37:44] Well, I want to thank you for applying.

[1:37:46] We will make a decision today.

[1:37:48] We have three applicants for two positions.

[1:37:50] So you've got a pretty good chance, and somebody will be in touch with you ideally before the

[1:37:57] end of the day and let you know a decision.

[1:37:59] Okay.

[1:38:00] Well, thank you very much, sir, and I apologize for you not being able to see me in person.

[1:38:07] No worries.

[1:38:08] You're going to have to show up here in person one day and introduce yourself.

[1:38:11] Yeah.

[1:38:11] Okay, right. Well, thank you very much.

[1:38:14] Thank you, John. Thank you.

[1:38:16] Bye-bye.

[1:38:21] And I think our next is, um, do you guys want to go to close now?

[1:38:27] And you want to wait and do it after, after we're going to have a break at something?

[1:38:35] You want to keep going?

[1:38:38] Okay.

[1:38:41] I love you, ma'am.

[1:38:42] More than any fellow horses ever loved you, I gotcha.

[1:38:47] Okay, Brian, we're going to stand in recess until 415.

[1:38:50] Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[1:38:53] Okay.

[1:38:55] I'm going to go finish up the phone call then, too.

[1:50:58] Okay, Ryan, the Summit County Council is back in session. And next up, we have presentation of the charity

[1:51:06] plan report by Intermountain Park City Hospital with Amy Tuddenham and Laurie Weston.

[1:51:20] Are they on

[1:51:23] Yes. Are you? Doing okay. Doing okay. I believe I sent my presentation in.

[1:51:33] Is Lori coming issue on? Yes. She's coming. She just texted and said she was parking. So I don't know. Okay. We're going to wait a minute. No worries. It's been that kind of day.

[1:51:43] We've been starting and stopping.

[1:51:48] some people are trying to catch soccer scores while we're

[1:51:50] running. Apparently, there's some soccer game being played.

[1:51:59] I don't know if Kansas is going to join us in person,

[1:52:02] or do we know him?

[1:52:08] Get my phone.

[1:52:11] Can you see that?

[1:52:25] Can you see that?

[1:52:33] Can you see that?

[1:52:37] Can you see that?

[1:52:38] of all issues. I just heard about the message, sometimes the message is back home.

[1:52:44] Hi Laurie. Hi, how are you? I'm no see. I know. I'm meeting your husband. Thank you.

[1:52:53] Everybody likes me and I bring him along. Very entertaining. I'm very close. Yes.

[1:53:03] I'm doing well. I just got in from a

[1:53:06] provocation, so I'm feeling like, can I switch from

[1:53:09] vacation mode the word home? I've had lunch with

[1:53:11] child science in the day. Oh he did! How's he doing? I haven't heard from him since he

[1:53:17] I'm sorry.

[1:53:17] Right, right.

[1:53:19] The body felt great.

[1:53:22] Dr. 12.

[1:53:23] Exactly.

[1:53:25] Yeah.

[1:53:27] Yeah.

[1:53:28] We missed him.

[1:53:30] Yeah, I guess it's a little bit of success.

[1:53:33] You've got to come in.

[1:53:35] You can see, too.

[1:53:39] You're in a good spot.

[1:53:50] No worries.

[1:53:52] Not in a hurry at all.

[1:53:54] Well, I'll just take them in and introduce the, my colleague,

[1:53:58] the swathman, this is Laura Claremont.

[1:54:00] She is based out of Salt Lake and she is over community

[1:54:05] relations.

[1:54:06] So she's a colleague that was working with me.

[1:54:09] She's a fellow.

[1:54:09] I heard that I could see it up here.

[1:54:11] Laura, look at the background.

[1:54:12] Join us.

[1:54:13] Thank you.

[1:54:20] Claremont, KL, AR, and I need help.

[1:54:23] Thank you.

[1:54:27] She is community relations manager.

[1:54:34] That's what I want my job to be next.

[1:54:36] Community relations manager.

[1:54:38] I like that.

[1:54:40] Congratulations.

[1:54:48] Hello.

[1:54:49] How are you?

[1:54:50] Good.

[1:54:50] Welcome to Colville.

[1:54:52] Thank you.

[1:54:52] It's a pretty dry, isn't it?

[1:54:53] Yes, it is.

[1:54:54] It's there's not a bad place on the more such, but that's true very lucky.

[1:55:00] Let's kick this thing off. Tell us about your charity plan. Let's do it. Okay. Are you advancing this slide? All right. Well, why are we here? We just wanted to let you know that we are regulated to come and meet with you each year. So we want to demonstrate our compliance with IRS nonprofit hospital requirements, demonstrate compliance with the state of Utah.

[1:55:30] the non-profit hospital standards meet some county board of equalization reporting expectations and confirm that our total gift, the community exceeds our property tax liability and provide a quick update on the hospital and related services for the community.

[1:55:47] Excellent, dive right into that. So if you go to the next slide, you can see, I know these

[1:55:54] went out in advance, so I won't read them all to you, but we need or exceed all required

[1:55:59] non-profit hospital standards for charitable property tax exemption in the state of Utah.

[1:56:05] Go to the next slide. We are a non-profit and we meet the diverse health care needs and

[1:56:13] provide excellent care at the lowest appropriate cost and for those that don't have an ability

[1:56:18] to pay.

[1:56:19] Make sure we're taking care of the whole community.

[1:56:22] Next slide.

[1:56:24] Being a nonprofit hospital, we strive to show a return and wealth to our shirt.

[1:56:29] Being a nonprofit health system, we don't have shareholders.

[1:56:35] We have community stakeholders who we are responsible for.

[1:56:38] we don't, we don't share profits with shareholders.

[1:56:43] Well, for profit system.

[1:56:45] Hey guys, hold on.

[1:56:48] It happens.

[1:56:52] We all know.

[1:56:53] It's been interesting to the people that we have.

[1:56:55] Thank you.

[1:56:58] We prioritize offerings to meet the community need.

[1:57:01] Sometimes at a loss, things like behavioral health services,

[1:57:06] OB services, we're bringing on cancer services.

[1:57:08] And so, although those are at a loss, we invest in the future of these services and provide

[1:57:15] the care.

[1:57:16] We depend heavily on philanthropy to help us deliver those services.

[1:57:21] And we focus on the long-term first-ability and strength.

[1:57:25] If you look at these buckets that we've got on the screen, this is our total gift to the

[1:57:30] community.

[1:57:31] And so, as part of the numbers that I'll show you, the total includes charity care, our education

[1:57:38] and services to our staff and the community, medical discounts, donations of our time,

[1:57:45] charitable contributions, and also community health improvement, are the things that we look

[1:57:51] at to meet the needs of the community.

[1:57:56] Go to the next slide.

[1:58:02] So if you look at what we would owe in

[1:58:06] property tax. It's a little over 600,000. I feel so bad. Sorry.

[1:58:14] A little over 600,000. Just charity

[1:58:16] care alone that we do for some at county is over 5 million. So just that one thing is enough

[1:58:24] to meet that and exceed that requirement. We do a lot more than that for the community if you go

[1:58:31] to the next slide. You can see that our charity cares five million. Our total,

[1:58:37] our community benefit is over 52 million. We've got capital investments. Last year was 10 million.

[1:58:45] By the end of this year, it'll be 50 million with the expansion of cancer services and also the ER

[1:58:50] and surgical services that we are adding on to the hospital currently. And then we have bad debt

[1:58:58] of over 7 million where we don't collect and those accounts need to be written off.

[1:59:06] If you look at the additional gifts to the community, we have over 28 nonprofit partners

[1:59:15] in Summit County that we contribute over $500,000 to.

[1:59:22] Our largest contribution is to the people's health clinic.

[1:59:27] That clinic is not funded, it is not federally funded, it is funded by private donations,

[1:59:34] some state grants that the people's health contributes to.

[1:59:39] We provide over $2 million in vouchers for the people's health clinic for their patients

[1:59:45] to have access to imaging, labs, lifestyle medicine services, things that they normally count

[1:59:52] on the board. This year alone, just through the first quarter, we've seen a

[2:00:00] Over 500,561,000 in imaging and lab visits that equates to about 663 patients. That's a 9% increase

[2:00:12] from what we saw last year and the year before it had grown even more. So the people's health clinic

[2:00:18] is growing with the community and our support for that clinic will continue to grow. People's

[2:00:27] The health clinic is the largest safety net for our patients in the community.

[2:00:30] If we did not have that there, it would cost in our mountain a lot more to be able to provide care in this community.

[2:00:38] Those patients normally would not access care because they're uninsured or they're undocumented.

[2:00:44] And they would come into our emergency rooms in critical condition, which is a huge cost of care.

[2:00:51] So, by providing the support that people's health clinic needs, it helps in our mountain maintain its mission to take care of everyone that cannot pay.

[2:01:04] But also, we wouldn't be able to deliver all the services and meet the needs of the community if we were using those dollars to go towards charity care and bad debt.

[2:01:14] So, it helps us tremendously to have that organization in our community.

[2:01:21] Next slide is, these are the other ones that we do support in our community when I talked about the $500,000 additional dollars that we do for nonprofits. Again, these are all safety nets, like the people's health clinic, but the health people's health is our largest.

[2:01:41] We also focus on alignment on the community priorities and contribute to those.

[2:01:46] We sponsor the bike share, getting people off the roads and on bikes, and also we've got

[2:01:54] a bus stop there at the hospital making it convenient for people to access us.

[2:01:59] And we've got a bus route that goes between Park City and Heber Valley as well for people

[2:02:03] that are working in those communities to go back and forth.

[2:02:06] And then our latest is trying to impact affordable housing in the community, how are we making a difference there and how are we contributing with the two developments for a studio crossing and engine house.

[2:02:22] We've master least some units there in order to have those available for our caregivers. We just rolled that out this week.

[2:02:30] and so we're excited to be able to provide housing for our lowest income caregivers to let them

[2:02:38] live and play and work at home. So excited for that. That's our pilot. We're really piloting

[2:02:46] this for the Intermountain System to see how this goes and how we really want to do a longer term

[2:02:52] solution for housing. We do plan to try to make an investment in the future, but what does

[2:03:00] that look like and what is the need. So, excited to do that. Our numbers, our stats, we've

[2:03:08] got almost 500 caregivers, 37 licensed beds. We've donated 133 blood units. We've got

[2:03:16] 18 medical specialties with a few coming on and 196 local providers. We deliver close

[2:03:25] most 371 babies per year, almost 4,500 surgeries, and over 14,000 emergency room visits.

[2:03:38] We also, as part of our goal is for meeting our community needs analysis.

[2:03:45] We focus on improving, having services to improve mental health, improve chronic disease,

[2:03:52] and address the in-invest in the social determinants of health increase and also increase our access to care on the washatch back.

[2:04:01] This is just a picture of our board. This is our community board. This is the washatch back board that governs both hospitals.

[2:04:09] We've had a few changes, but this was the board that was in place last year. We have a new board chair that's Claire Provost.

[2:04:16] And then we, as we select members for our board, we look for the diversity also where people are living.

[2:04:24] Make sure all voices are represented here in our community.

[2:04:27] This is a really pretty bird board member up there that he said it's our first.

[2:04:32] Yeah, that's why I put her right in the center.

[2:04:34] I'm wondering about the fellow in the lower right.

[2:04:37] You kicked him out of the live well center.

[2:04:40] And you know what he was he still around which is I would like he tried to retire and he's still working for me

[2:04:48] So he is well, why aren't I singing anymore? He's working in concierge and he does do and he does also work in lifetime medicine

[2:04:56] So he really is he'll go cover for different physicians

[2:05:00] All right. I miss him. What's that? I miss him. I know you want to special of where he's covering on certain days and you can get into him. I'm going to text him. Okay. You text him. Sounds good. I wanted to just bring to your attention. And hopefully you'll all mark your calendars. I would love to have the County Council present. We will be opening and celebrating the Council Center on August 20. I will also send you a special invite for a

[2:05:29] a four o'clock perception if you can attend that and private tour.

[2:05:34] So we'd love to have you join us and be representing in the community.

[2:05:39] We're super proud of this expansion.

[2:05:42] We do have the ER and surgery imaging expansion coming on in December.

[2:05:47] So we'll have another big celebration.

[2:05:48] I want to have two parties, not just one, but this is the biggest expansion

[2:05:52] since we opened the hospital, since we built the hospital.

[2:05:55] And so we're pretty proud of this.

[2:05:56] and I don't think any of us when we built the hospital thought we'd be building a cancer

[2:06:01] center here and so we've responded to the needs of the community and what the community

[2:06:07] is asking for. So this will save people a lot of time and be able to take care of 90% of their

[2:06:13] needs for cancer care on the Wasatch Back.

[2:06:18] Next slide. I just want to brag a little bit if I haven't

[2:06:22] enough, but Park City Hospital ranks top in the nation with quality safety and patient

[2:06:28] experience. We've received multiple awards. These are not paid-of-play. These are those

[2:06:33] that are sent to us. These get reported out by Medicare, our Medicare scores, and then

[2:06:41] these organizations will pick it up and say, hey, you've won our award for quality safety,

[2:06:46] patient care, women's services as well. So super proud to have that and be in this community

[2:06:53] and let people know they've got great care here. Next slide. Our mission is helping people

[2:07:02] live healthiest lives possible.

[2:07:07] So these are the government requirements that these were

[2:07:11] just more in there. So is that the appendix? Okay. All right.

[2:07:15] The appendix. If you want to know what you have to do to both the fire,

[2:07:18] you have to make the slides at the end just kind of walk through that.

[2:07:22] So I'll leave it at the award slide. Any questions for us concerns?

[2:07:29] Thank you. Could you rehearse? Oh, Megan, I didn't see you over there. No, I hear you.

[2:07:35] I'll go ahead and kind of. Thank you so much.

[2:07:42] And,

[2:07:43] city tour with you. That was really fun. And yeah, glad we had that time together.

[2:07:48] Thanks for all you do for the community. It's really tremendous and thanks for sharing this today.

[2:07:55] My question is more about, you know, your master leasing and this kind of exciting new area you're

[2:08:02] looking at. And in terms of employment, have you had challenges keeping or recruiting

[2:08:09] employing employment and just kind of wondering where that is right now and if this is one of the strategies to address that.

[2:08:16] This is one of the strategies.

[2:08:19] The really targeting our techs and below, we have a hard time keeping those positions.

[2:08:25] They can go work at Walmart and some of these other places in town and get paid more than what they will as a medical professional.

[2:08:33] So looking at those, even at what the rents are listed at and those developments, they're still too high, a $20 an hour caregiver cannot afford, you know, a studio apartment.

[2:08:48] So Intermountain is going to subsidize part of that. So for those that are 50% or below AMI, we are going to offer a subsidy to help them bring down what that rent payment is each month.

[2:09:00] Well, thank you for that, and the Cancer Center, what a great addition to the community.

[2:09:12] So thank you for that.

[2:09:13] I look forward to the grand opening.

[2:09:15] Thank you.

[2:09:16] Go on in.

[2:09:18] Ladies, thank you for being here today.

[2:09:21] Thank you.

[2:09:22] Thank you for all the work that I see does in our community and throughout the state for

[2:09:27] that matter.

[2:09:28] I'm really excited about the cancer wing that's going on.

[2:09:33] That is so needed on the law's edge back that everyone has to drive to Salt Lake.

[2:09:38] And when you're going through those situations, that's a drag to have to make that commute.

[2:09:44] So this is very, very exciting.

[2:09:46] Thank you very much for what you do.

[2:09:49] Thank you.

[2:09:49] Christian.

[2:09:52] Gloria Nehmi and Laura.

[2:09:54] I was wondering back to the Heak People's Health Clinic.

[2:09:58] A little...

[2:10:00] About, I think you said you get two million in a few ponds or vouchers. How does that work? They get a voucher of people's health. They bring it up to the hospital for whatever imaging services ordered. And so we, we process that the hospital pays for it. It's mainly just for imaging services. Imaging labs, there's some lip well services that, like, diabetic, if they, if they need diabetic support, those things will,

[2:10:28] is that $2 million number? Did you stipulate that that's all you would do or you provide those kind of services to all

[2:10:40] comers and that just happens to be in the year that we're talking about the amount?

[2:10:46] No, it's a year. It's an amount that's grown. We look at the contract each year to say what's the need and if they need us to, they need more help in that area, we'll increase it.

[2:10:57] It's based on the need not on saying you get $2 million of imaging and labs and when you

[2:11:05] exceed that you're on your own.

[2:11:07] Yeah, but they'll usually call us and say we're getting close to our limit.

[2:11:10] You do set at least a penciled in limit.

[2:11:14] Yeah, we do.

[2:11:15] What other perks do you give the people's health clinic?

[2:11:19] I don't know if it's perks but support.

[2:11:22] We have, we staff midwives in the clinic there that see the OB and gynecology patients,

[2:11:31] especially the OBs, that's until they deliver and then they'll decide where they want to

[2:11:38] deliver their baby, but we staff and make sure that they've got women's care there.

[2:11:44] Okay, thank you.

[2:11:47] You know, I get to say you don't have to go that far back to remember when we didn't have a hospital

[2:11:53] in this community at all. We have to get any fever or down to Salt Lake Valley to get treatments.

[2:11:59] And now we have one. And the leadership from the Gecko boat administratively and from the

[2:12:06] topic, Intermountain down to your local leadership, you've been there since birth, I think it feels

[2:12:12] like at this point. And, you know, whether it's Rob Allen or Mark beforehand, the innovations that

[2:12:21] this hospital in the additions for a community of this size to have the quality of care,

[2:12:28] the scope of care that this hospital provides.

[2:12:31] And now a cancer center is kind of mind-boggling and it takes a remarkable team to make of

[2:12:38] that happen.

[2:12:39] Well, on the answer side, is it only certain kinds of cancers, certain kinds of treatments?

[2:12:48] Is it remedied in some way or how would it compare to something like that?

[2:12:52] It's not limited. We've got we'll have a medical oncologist on site and it's general medical

[2:12:58] medical oncology so they'll be able to see all patients and also radiation oncology will

[2:13:04] be on site so you can get your radiation and see your radiation oncologist. What will

[2:13:09] differ is we're not going to do brain cancers. We're not going to do lung cancers but we are

[2:13:16] able to do the majority. So we do prostate cancer, breast cancer, dermatology, most cancer,

[2:13:23] we're already doing. Those are the most prevalent on the Wasatch back, also thyroid cancers.

[2:13:30] So the majority of it, as long as we have the surgeon there on site, we can do it.

[2:13:36] So those other specialty surgeries will need to go down to one of our other facilities for, you know,

[2:13:42] brain, also transfusion, things like that. We'll need to go down to the valley. But the

[2:13:49] majority of everything else, like their radiation, their chemo, infusions, that all can be done

[2:13:54] on the washach.

[2:13:55] I'm nice to not have to make the trip down in these things that really are burdened on patients

[2:14:02] is to do that right.

[2:14:04] Amazing. So that, the new extension that's going on the hospital, it's a cancer center, is

[2:14:09] Is it also a circuitry center or what else is going on in there?

[2:14:13] It's a main entrance on the back of the hospital.

[2:14:15] What's being built on the back of the hospital is the linear accelerator.

[2:14:18] So that's the radiation center, but there'll be an entrance into the hospital on that backside

[2:14:25] now.

[2:14:27] Really amazing.

[2:14:28] And the work that you're doing on the housing is also noteworthy and something that I hope

[2:14:33] other employers take a look at.

[2:14:35] There's one of our lobbyists actually approached me about a client that he's got in Walshedge County and the Walshedge Heber Hospital may also be taking advantage of it, but that developer, I think as I've mentioned before in Council meetings, the Internet or agreements.

[2:14:50] I think with the fire district, the police will share it for both and maybe the hospital school districts for sure.

[2:14:58] Thank you very much.

[2:15:00] The last release is in the same kind of way. So it gave the developer a guaranteed stream of income. And I think there were five or 10 year deals. What he thought they were doing so that it was a longer term and something they didn't have to worry too much about. So thanks for that. No, thank you. It's going to take all of us to solve it. Amen.

[2:15:23] What have you done lately, Miss Amy?

[2:15:27] Well, I actually put a lot of time and effort into that caregiver housing, affordable housing thing because it's a complex message to communicate the caregivers when they're wondering where am I going to live.

[2:15:40] We are doing it as a workforce retention, but we're also finding that our caregivers want to live locally.

[2:15:49] And so it's just been interesting and they've come to us with questions about how can I afford to live here? What's a AMI?

[2:15:55] And so that's been a really good message to get to our community.

[2:15:59] And then the one thing that I want to add that Laurie addressed with the other with the expansion is we really focused on the cancer services.

[2:16:07] But we're also expanding the ER and the surgery suite.

[2:16:11] and so when you get completely to the west side of the hospital by the parking garage and where the

[2:16:16] helipad is, you'll see that we're expanding both the lower, the first level and the second level

[2:16:22] and natural health ER and surgery and endoscopy. The ER is mainly trauma-based. Right now we just have

[2:16:34] a trauma room with curtains and so we do a lot of trauma here and so we're adding four trauma-based

[2:16:41] which will help with the capacity and the art.

[2:16:45] And then the last thing that I want to add is Lori spoke to our community, our community

[2:16:51] help lead assessment.

[2:16:52] So if you attended the park city leadership symposium back in March, I brought up Lisa Nichols

[2:16:58] a colleague of ours who is lead community help and we're really trying to figure out what

[2:17:02] are those social drivers of health that we can make the most impact.

[2:17:05] So a large part of my job this year will be roundly visiting with superintendents and principals and Christian Center of Park City and finding out what are you guys working on and where can we show up and partner.

[2:17:19] Not all the time do I have dollars to bring the table but I have a lot of resources so that's a big part of what I'm trying to accomplish this year is sitting down, understanding what our communities are working on and then how we can best show up.

[2:17:35] because we know that we can address those social drivers of health, we can eventually get upstream, and we can start on illness,

[2:17:43] or send fools, people out of coming to the hospital at the most expensive point of the year.

[2:17:49] So those are some things that I'm excited about this year.

[2:17:52] It's really amazing because again, in a community of this size, in a place like Los Angeles trying to address those social determinants,

[2:18:03] It kind of gets washed out just because size limits the impact, but here by undertaking

[2:18:09] those kinds of activities and going directly to the nonprofits and others to the schools

[2:18:14] and other places to try and deliver that message and figure out where that intersection is,

[2:18:20] you're bringing any level healthcare and solutions to a local problem that makes the impact even

[2:18:28] greater, I think, which is awesome.

[2:18:30] Thank you.

[2:18:32] Larry, anything you'd like to add?

[2:18:34] Oh,

[2:18:42] I'm so sorry.

[2:18:44] I'm just going to go up from here.

[2:18:46] There's that.

[2:18:50] Thank you.

[2:18:51] Of course.

[2:18:52] Castle, anything else?

[2:18:55] Thanks, Larry.

[2:18:55] Amy and Laura, thank you.

[2:18:56] Thank you.

[2:18:57] Take care.

[2:18:59] Okay.

[2:18:59] Next up, I think we're going to talk about recreation, which is one of the social determinants

[2:19:04] of health, if you'd like to stick around.

[2:19:19] Did you take advantage of the surgical center over the hospital?

[2:19:27] Welcome back.

[2:19:28] How are you?

[2:19:29] I'm good.

[2:19:29] How are you?

[2:19:30] I'm doing okay.

[2:19:33] Turn your mic on.

[2:19:34] Look for the little green light.

[2:19:36] Middle button.

[2:19:36] We're good.

[2:19:37] It's all good.

[2:19:38] So who is running the slideshow for?

[2:19:40] So today Rob is going to tell us about the potential geo-bond for new facilities first night of our basement rack.

[2:19:48] Yep.

[2:19:50] Okay, so we'll start with one.

[2:19:52] So you just start off thank you for allowing me to come on to your agenda.

[2:19:56] Really tonight's not really going to be, we're not looking for decisions more informational.

[2:20:00] Just to kind of get you up to speed so that as we do come towards the end of July, August, and we're ready to present our bond package. A lot of the questions already been answered. And you guys have already been up to speed. So, you know, what I'm going to share is really what we heard in May. You're aware that we had kind of an open house public forum and a survey back in May of our residents. And what, you know, mainly what I'm looking for also is just some direction from you knowing that we have a couple properties that are in play. There's been some conversations about recreation.

[2:20:29] and facilities with many developers and other things that are coming to the community.

[2:20:33] Just making sure we're kind of on track with what you guys are thinking.

[2:20:36] And then I will be back in July on the 15th to kind of update with where we are with our second phase of public outreach.

[2:20:43] We're going to synthesize some of the data that we gathered in May.

[2:20:46] We'll have some renderings and some other information.

[2:20:49] And at that point in time, we'll really be able to start talking about bond cost.

[2:20:53] So they're really not as much to talk about as far as bond costs tonight.

[2:20:55] So next slide, please.

[2:20:58] So we're on, nope, go back one, I'm sorry.

[2:21:02] Yep, all right, so what we didn't phase one.

[2:21:04] So we had three open houses in May.

[2:21:07] We did a full morning session from open

[2:21:09] till about 12.30 at the field house on a Tuesday.

[2:21:12] We did a Wednesday evening session at our trail site office.

[2:21:16] And then we did a Thursday afternoon back at the field house

[2:21:19] where we had some boards.

[2:21:20] We presented site maps, programmatic bubble diagrams

[2:21:23] of some options of what we were thinking based on the 2023 survey which went into our 2024 strategic plan.

[2:21:31] So there's already been some input from the public as far as what recreation activities programs

[2:21:36] and what facilities would be needed to support those programs.

[2:21:40] We did a public survey.

[2:21:42] We had 1414 responses to the survey along with over 200 in-person contact with people at the field as of the various different times.

[2:21:53] And then, you know, looking at both of those, the unofficial survey from May, and then

[2:21:59] our 2023 Statistically Valid Voter Survey, we're going to use that survey at the 2023

[2:22:05] is kind of our driving force because it was statistically valid.

[2:22:09] It was a directional survey, so it was based on a demographic of voters, whereas the one

[2:22:16] we just did last month was really just open to anybody.

[2:22:18] So, next slide, please.

[2:22:23] What we asked residents about, we talked about funding in taxes, really, you know, our

[2:22:29] voters are pretty keen, they recognize they were probably going to have to bond for

[2:22:32] this.

[2:22:32] So that was, you know, the question I got a lot was, well, how much the bond is going to be?

[2:22:36] And it's like, well, it depends on what you want in the facility.

[2:22:39] So, you know, we'll figure that out.

[2:22:41] There was some concern over our fees, over resident versus non-resident, and we have a lot

[2:22:46] a lot of things in play to kind of help address that.

[2:22:48] A couple of big things that they did ask about were aquatics.

[2:22:52] There definitely has been a strong demand for more swim lanes,

[2:22:55] a family-style wreck pool,

[2:22:56] similar to what they have in campus,

[2:22:58] along with, we got confirmation that really,

[2:23:02] people are preferring the Silver Creek village area

[2:23:04] for the aquatics when we went out in May,

[2:23:06] our program bubble diagram showed the aquatic center

[2:23:10] at what we're calling our East Canyon complex

[2:23:12] on the Clindalli property,

[2:23:14] by overwhelming. Most people wanted that at Silver Creek and then it was also

[2:23:19] a desire for a full-spec climbing facility. Really something that's 40 feet tall,

[2:23:24] top rope, some bouldering, really something that would fill the need from what

[2:23:30] was the mine when it closed years ago. There really isn't anything up here for

[2:23:33] that so meeting that need for the public as well. Sports and courts, there's more

[2:23:39] need for more indoor courts even with the field house that we have here. There's a

[2:23:42] need for some indoor or volleyball, basketball, winter type programs.

[2:23:48] And then we also talked about outdoor sports, but I've had some conversations with Park

[2:23:53] City Pickleball and a few others, and they're really wanting us to focus on some outdoor

[2:23:57] courts for them.

[2:23:58] So we'll focus that on phase two, fitness and wellness as a driver.

[2:24:02] You'll see here in a little bit about what is the need for fitness and wellness, larger

[2:24:07] weight rooms.

[2:24:08] Really, it's not even larger, it's just more.

[2:24:09] And having two facilities in these other two new neighborhoods will really give us three facilities within the district where residents can choose some places closer to their home for their lifestyle fitness and wellness and really not have to fight off crowds.

[2:24:24] And we'll also be able to take the two new facilities and really focus them on various different types of cardio weightlifting, whether it be heavy weights, Olympic style weightlifting, more of a pilates or other type of fitness activities.

[2:24:37] And then the site in the process, obviously we know Silver Creek has some traffic constraints

[2:24:41] right now.

[2:24:42] So I have to work with you, the county as well as you dot to figure out traffic that's

[2:24:46] there as we as we look at our development plan.

[2:24:49] And then there was also some skepticism about prior plan versions, obviously part of me getting

[2:24:55] here.

[2:24:55] There was talk.

[2:24:56] I mean, Silver Creek Village had been in the work since 2015.

[2:25:00] If not before. So, you know, there's been iterations of things that have come out to the public where we're asking about things. But I think, hopefully, what we can let them know right now is that we're at the point where we're making a decision. We're moving forward. We're taking a little bit more public information, some input from our residences to what they want. And, hopefully, by having this bond initiative on the ballot come November, we'll show that we're serious. We're really going to move forward with it this time. And then, really, what they also wanted to solve was capacity without cutting key amenities.

[2:25:29] and really be transparent about the cost, which I have no problem with.

[2:25:35] Slide four, next slide, please.

[2:25:38] All right, so really what we found in the survey is that there is suppressed demand.

[2:25:43] So out of the 1,400 people we surveyed 61% of avoided the field house due to crowding.

[2:25:48] It's a pretty, pretty big number, 51% of non-user-so-people who responded to the survey that said

[2:25:53] they haven't used the field house, say they don't come because they know it's crowded.

[2:25:56] And then 25, 29% use the facility less than they want, and then another 25% go elsewhere

[2:26:03] instead.

[2:26:04] So they're meeting their fitness and recreation needs somewhere else because of the

[2:26:07] capacity in the field house.

[2:26:09] I'm one and four.

[2:26:10] I used to go to, I did, I went to the field house every week and now I go to the

[2:26:15] mark because it's just, it's easier to rotate and anecdotally you'll see.

[2:26:20] So, you know, as an aside, next month I'll be bringing, we're in the process of updating

[2:26:24] our impact fee facility plan. I'll bring that before you next month, and it'll show that

[2:26:29] the field house will be at capacity as of next year. So, you know, they're really, and it's showing.

[2:26:35] So our residents are recognizing it, that the facility is recognizing it in the use,

[2:26:40] and we really need to know with what growth is coming, we need to increase capacity.

[2:26:45] And then really politically, 51% of non-users really reframe the case. They say the need is

[2:26:50] community, why not just recreation users are driven.

[2:26:53] So there's other things out there.

[2:26:54] So the people that are fitness minded recognize it.

[2:26:57] Hey, there's other things that our facilities provide

[2:26:59] to the community that are benefit.

[2:27:01] So we really need to address these two committees.

[2:27:03] And by having two facilities kind of be different,

[2:27:05] but yet the same and offer the same,

[2:27:07] we'll be able to diversify our offering.

[2:27:10] And that's really important because we don't have

[2:27:12] a single user group in the basin that is the majority.

[2:27:15] I can't say that, you know, pickle wallers

[2:27:17] are 51% of our users.

[2:27:18] youth soccer, they're not 51%. We really do have a lot of majority. We have a wide variety of

[2:27:25] interests and tastes and sports and recreation in Basin, which is a good thing, and we just need to

[2:27:29] be able to broaden our program offerings to meet the needs of more people. Next slide, please.

[2:27:37] So we're looking at the four amenity pillars. From 2023 and most recently, really we're going to

[2:27:43] around four strong demand drivers. Again, strengthen fitness being the number one, provide more, provide a little bit more diversity in that category.

[2:27:53] Indoor turf, it's been apparent that a lot of additional indoor turf is needed. But some of the response we got is that the current field is too small, which it's really not sized for anything.

[2:28:04] And we'll talk about that a little later, but we were looking now at making the side the field bigger so that we can actually have two teams practicing at the same time.

[2:28:12] In-door courts, basketball, volleyball, racket sports is a big request along with climbing.

[2:28:19] And that would include bouldering, top rope, and then major cross-generational appeal.

[2:28:24] So there's a lot of youth there involved in climbing, there's a lot of older generation.

[2:28:28] And really that's kind of what we're also seeing.

[2:28:30] And we saw that, particularly with our wheel sports complex project that we did some open

[2:28:37] and public house for is that, you know, with the wheel sports,

[2:28:39] skateboarders, and others, that there really is multi-generational.

[2:28:43] So having facilities that speak to not only the established adults that are practicing

[2:28:48] in a sport of recreation activity, older adults that are continuing and enjoy it,

[2:28:53] but then also having facilities then that allow for the development of our youth

[2:28:57] to enjoy those things as well, really allows all generations to come in

[2:29:01] and really celebrate and enjoy recreation for specific activity and participate.

[2:29:05] Okay, pools are of an interest indoor track.

[2:29:09] We initially showed we would have probably four lap lanes, request was, go six or eight.

[2:29:15] Again, the community shows that, you know, don't go small.

[2:29:19] Make it, you know, don't make it too small from the beginning.

[2:29:21] Go to the right size.

[2:29:23] And then, really, what we're hearing is that any bond that emits any one of these four core areas probably wouldn't succeed.

[2:29:30] So we have to build a coalition of residents based on offering all four of these and if we were to drop one

[2:29:35] We'd probably lose the significant part of the population and we wouldn't pass the bond. So we're really trying to

[2:29:41] Not be everything to everyone, but broadener horizons offer new offerings that would then

[2:29:47] Appeal to those people who have avoided basin or avoided the fieldhouse because of overpopulation of our grouting or just the lack of program

[2:29:54] Next slide, please

[2:29:58] For the site preference, overall,

[2:30:00] All people preferred silver creek. It led at 61%, but a good chunk of those people said that they would support a facility in a non-preferred site. And then we, in our survey from May, we asked people to identify where they live. So zone C was the area around Silver Creek Village. Zone E was the Kimble and Trailside and Old Ranch Road area. Zone B was Glen Wilde, and this year States and AMD was that area, Jeremy Ranch and Pinebrook.

[2:30:28] And for the most part, you know, it was clear residents would prefer having a facility near them, but they also recognize the fact that we need a new facility and for the most part they would say if you built something, you know, we're going to come to it, but we prefer one closer to us.

[2:30:44] But I think that we have the opportunity with two good sites that if we develop them appropriately and program them appropriately, we're going to be able to provide those core elements, fitness and wellness to everybody close to home.

[2:30:57] And then provide that new thing to basin that people would mind driving to across the district to go for climate or across the district to go for slimming as only do that.

[2:31:09] Next slide, please.

[2:31:11] So in the design direction, we originally showed about a 76,000 square foot facility.

[2:31:16] Silver Creek Village.

[2:31:17] Most people said it was too small, particularly with the addition of wanting the field to be bigger than the one we have now.

[2:31:24] So currently working with a program size of about 120,000 square feet, which in for comparison the current field house is about 84,000.

[2:31:33] So even bigger than the current field house.

[2:31:35] And then 66% of people said that the facilities were the right size in in combination or even at the stand alone.

[2:31:43] Key design directives, we want people wanted us to concentrate the aquatics, both the lap lines in the right pool.

[2:31:50] and they want to fully plan from the start at Silver Creek Village.

[2:31:53] They wanted a larger field and want to say that in an extended track.

[2:31:57] So our current field really doesn't measure by any sports management program standard.

[2:32:02] It was just built.

[2:32:04] And then so what we're planning on is a 9v9,

[2:32:06] which is really having nine players versus nine players on a full on that size field.

[2:32:11] But what it gives us the ability is to divide it into and really have two teams practicing at the same time,

[2:32:15] which seems to be one of the community's complaints is that if one team is using the field,

[2:32:19] another team can't, and we only have the one field. So by going with a little bit of a bigger

[2:32:23] field, it's over a great village. We would technically be able to have three teams practicing indoor

[2:32:28] at the same time. And then having the indoor field would also take the pressure off of us to try

[2:32:33] and maintain some of our outdoor fields, allowing them in February. So lacrosse and soccer teams can

[2:32:37] get on and start practicing early in the spring. We'll have an indoor facility. Major fitness floors

[2:32:43] were also wanted, allocate more space with courts, and they wanted that move to the East

[2:32:48] Canyon. So we're going to build the, we're planning for three additional basketball courts

[2:32:53] at East Canyon, and that would also allow us for some multi-use programming, whether that be indoor

[2:32:58] fitness, along with the traditional sports that would use a court, basketball, volleyball,

[2:33:02] racket sports. And of course, locker rooms and circulation was one of the things that, you know,

[2:33:08] with what we had to do with the locker room at the field house, that was a big concern, of course,

[2:33:12] being able to design from scratch will be able to meet Utah legal requirements for, you know,

[2:33:18] separation, privacy and all that. And we are planning for bigger locker rooms and with a flow

[2:33:23] that makes more sense to the restroom side of it would be separated from the locker room side,

[2:33:27] closer to where they're going to be used with a wet and dry separation, which is also a big

[2:33:31] complaint that we're hearing now is that the locker rooms are right near the showers and we just

[2:33:35] just water all over the place. So we can address that. And then of course, one of the things that I'm

[2:33:40] I'm stressing the residences, what we're trying to do is plan this in a phased approach,

[2:33:44] knowing that we would use the bond to build the core facilities.

[2:33:47] I need the facility and we could use additional funding, whether it be impact fees, grants,

[2:33:51] or other funds to then build out additional phases, what I'm calling phase two, the groundwork.

[2:33:57] Whether we put in the baseball field, whether we put in another pickleball,

[2:34:00] an outdoor pickleball facility, that would be phase two.

[2:34:03] Get us the building and get us going there.

[2:34:05] That would take the pressure on the field house and provide the indoor.

[2:34:07] And then we can continue to plan with the next five to ten years to continue our growth where it's appropriate as the residents come to provide additional outdoor recreation at these two facilities.

[2:34:18] Next slide please.

[2:34:20] For East Canyon, we proposed a 42,000 square foot facility and this is one where most people said it's just too small.

[2:34:28] Even though we have some site constraints with the property, we can't go too big because

[2:34:32] of some wetlands and some other things there, but we can, I think, comfortably grow it with

[2:34:37] the addition of the three indoor basketball indoor courts to about 64,000 square feet.

[2:34:43] There's a little bit smaller in the current field house, but bigger than what we showed.

[2:34:46] And that would also allow us to give us, basically, an award class, but it would be able to give

[2:34:50] us a very good climbing facility in there that our climbing community and others who have

[2:34:55] not introduced to plumbing would really take advantage of that facility.

[2:35:00] And it would be worthwhile. And it's another thing we heard from the climate facility. Don't just do it halfway. If you're going to do something, do us give us 40 foot, give us top rope, give us some bouldering, give us some some variety, something that can be scaled and changed and modified. If you had somebody there that could modify the layout. So it's not just static and it's once they come and climb it. Climb it once and I'm done. So we'll be able to change the programming there.

[2:35:27] And then some of the core directives that came from East Canyon, they definitely want us to right side the building.

[2:35:34] They wanted the full spec climbing and moved the courts from Silver Creek, wellness identity.

[2:35:39] This is also where they said, hey, a sauna, cold plunge, something like that to go along

[2:35:44] with the regular fitness to give us some differentiation because there's people that recognize

[2:35:49] that sauna, cold plunge, different types of recovery and warm up along with exercise go to the total wellness.

[2:35:55] So they wanted to consider that in that facility, which we absolutely are.

[2:35:59] And then the only other thing here is that we did get questions from our residents, you know, the land ownership issue, and I've had conversations with Shane that's one of the things that will probably have to come, you know, before we go out of the bonds really get some type of agreement or something out there for the public understands the yes, that that parcel will be become based in wreck and it will be dedicated for a wreck center so they don't feel like they're going to vote for something and all of a sudden the parcel disappears and we're scrambling trying to figure out what we're going to do with that. So I think that'll be key to us giving voter confidence.

[2:36:28] that that facility and that location will move forward. So I'll be looking for

[2:36:32] you for help on that in the next in the coming weeks. Next slide please.

[2:36:38] So trust

[2:36:40] and costs were making that came up basically within the 2023 baseline 30% of

[2:36:45] our supporters and 24 and a half percent of the movable middle all really said

[2:36:49] that we do well. Initial support for a bond was about 48.7 which was slightly

[2:36:54] below the passage threshold. So, you know, in looking at where we were two or three years ago,

[2:37:00] you know, we know we have some gaps to overcome. And I think by having that multi-use programming

[2:37:06] and being able to program some of those activities that the special interests, the climbers,

[2:37:11] or some of the pickleball people, other things we recognize, they recognize that, hey,

[2:37:14] we have to invest in this facility and there will be something for me there. If not right away,

[2:37:20] say, at least in additional phases, we will have something that will better represent

[2:37:23] the community as a whole and all of our recreation and fitness interests.

[2:37:28] On the trust gap, 57 and a half, 57 people say the district performs well, but only 23.8

[2:37:35] percent, which, you know, having been here for, you know, eight months now, I don't see

[2:37:40] anything.

[2:37:41] I mean, we just, we're going to be presenting our audit next week to our board.

[2:37:46] We have a clean audit.

[2:37:47] So we didn't have any incoming back from the others.

[2:37:49] we have good internal control practices. I think a lot of it's just public perception,

[2:37:53] and a lot of it's just coming from either the information isn't getting out there appropriately

[2:37:57] or we're not representing it, so we'll be making a better effort, particularly this coming year

[2:38:02] as we come to you with our budget. I'm really letting people know where we're budgeting, how we're

[2:38:06] spending the money, where it's coming from, and where it's going, and being more transparent.

[2:38:10] Not that they weren't in the past, but I think there's probably just a method of communication

[2:38:16] So we'll look at increasing that so that our residents understand that we are spending the tax dollars wisely.

[2:38:22] We are looking for other funding as an example of that with the wheel sports.

[2:38:27] The wheels park at trailside.

[2:38:29] We applied for and received a $500,000 grant, which is going to offset the tax portion of our capital improvement fund for that.

[2:38:35] So we are out there seeking additional funds, which I think is goes back to our stewardship work,

[2:38:40] taking it very seriously, if we can spend a different source of money other than tax

[2:38:43] fees, we absolutely will, and we'll continue that communication.

[2:38:49] And the bottom line is, is that really, it's behavioral proof that is going to demonstrate

[2:38:56] a lot of this.

[2:38:56] And as I've mentioned in previous meetings, we're in the process of, you know, bringing

[2:39:00] on new accounting software, asset management software, I am, we're going to complete our impact

[2:39:05] facility plan, impact the facility plan and a new IFA, we're also in the process of we've hired a third-party

[2:39:12] auditor to really look at our fee structure. So we'll be coming back now to the public also before

[2:39:17] this next budget cycle with a new fee structure, which will be very clear about what a resident pays

[2:39:22] versus what a non-resident pays. And we all heard that back in November and December at our truth

[2:39:28] and taxation hearings, there really was some concern from a resident. So what are the non-residents paying?

[2:39:32] And we'll make that much more clear, and our fee structure is going to become much more simple.

[2:39:37] And I think what's also going to help with this is that a lot of the questions I had on our fees,

[2:39:41] where a lot of people were asking, well, if I pay for the field now,

[2:39:44] so I'm going to be able to give it into the aquatic center.

[2:39:46] And that's basically a family member or resident of Basin.

[2:39:50] When they buy their membership, they're going to be able to use either of the three facilities,

[2:39:53] and they'll just be able to go back and forth.

[2:39:55] it's not a matter of while you're a member over here.

[2:40:00] But not over here. So we're going to try and simplify our fees as well to make it easier. And that also goes along with our programming fees, too, to really provide some definition to what those are. And I think that'll go a long way to showing a residence that we are, you know, charging them appropriately. But the non-residents that are coming in, they're going to be charged completely different rate. And it'll be visible and viable and really drive home the point that non-residents are paying more than what residents are paying, which then those fees come right back into the programs.

[2:40:29] and help support the facilities.

[2:40:35] And then the other thing being is that what we heard is we're talking about the existing bonds that we have.

[2:40:41] So I've already had conversations with Zion's.

[2:40:43] We're going to, with this new bond, we're going to restructure our current bond debt.

[2:40:47] So that the total impact would not be a cumulative impact of a new bond going on top of the existing bonds that we have.

[2:40:53] We work with Zion such that we basically would pay off the current bonds sooner and that so instead of stacking a new bond on top of this

[2:41:00] We would take a smaller increase pay off the old bonds

[2:41:03] Get clear them and then begin paying on the new one once the older ones are cleared

[2:41:08] So we'll have a clear path forward for voters before November or showing you know how we're going to clear the debt of the existing bonds and move forward with that

[2:41:15] With a minimal increase

[2:41:17] There will be an increase, but it would not be a duplicative or you know doubling of what they're paying on the property taxes for bonds

[2:41:23] Next slide, please.

[2:41:28] So through this month, we're going to continue to look at the, our fee schedule, we're looking

[2:41:33] to bond structuring, working on setting and meeting with Zion's next week, our impact

[2:41:37] fee planning.

[2:41:38] As I said, we'll be on the agenda next month for impact fees, we'll show the growth that's

[2:41:42] coming into basin, and I think that's important for us to communicate to voters, is regardless

[2:41:49] Well, as of where someone stands on growth

[2:41:51] or development within some account here within Basin,

[2:41:55] it is happening.

[2:41:56] There are developments that are out there.

[2:41:58] So of the known developments,

[2:41:59] we're gonna have over 4,600 demand units

[2:42:01] coming in in the next 10 years.

[2:42:04] And a good chunk of those, a third to a half of those

[2:42:06] will be within the next three to four years.

[2:42:08] So over the, you know, with the field house

[2:42:10] being a capacity starting next year,

[2:42:12] we're gonna start to see a large amount of growth

[2:42:14] coming into Basin very soon.

[2:42:17] And we need to be able to account for that.

[2:42:19] Part of the messaging is going to be with redoing and updating our impact fee facility plan.

[2:42:24] The new development they will be paying their fair share for things.

[2:42:28] We can use impact fees for some of these other phase two and other amenities that go within the district.

[2:42:33] So the new development is going to be paying their fair share along with the taxes that go with that.

[2:42:37] And I think part of the message is too is in looking at what folks would see as an increase to their property tax because of a new bond.

[2:42:44] Once these new properties start coming online, they're shared that's going to start to become

[2:42:47] deluded and they'll actually see that go down because there's now more property taxes and new

[2:42:52] development that's paying into the pool that's paying off the bond. So hopefully we can message it

[2:42:56] that as well as that yes, the first initial year price tag might be a little higher but you're going

[2:43:01] to start to see it slowly come down. Hopefully. In July, we're going to have some architectural concepts.

[2:43:08] So absent building renderings, I'll be able to share with you. We'll know what our bond cost is

[2:43:12] going to be, I'll be able to present that to you. And then we also on July 8th plan on hosting a

[2:43:17] second round of public sessions to bring the new programmatic bubble diagrams to show people

[2:43:22] that hey, we listen to you. Here's how we're thinking about the facilities now. It's not quite a floor

[2:43:26] plan, but it at least shows what the programming is. We'll have some orders to renderings of what the

[2:43:30] buildings are going to look like. And we'll really be able to talk to the public about, you know,

[2:43:34] what the bond cost is going to be. And what I'm hoping to do is really get folks to focus, not so much

[2:43:39] focus on the big picture, what the bond costs because it's not what the individual is

[2:43:44] going to be paying.

[2:43:44] It really addressed the individual homeowner, the individual property, and what their share

[2:43:48] of this is.

[2:43:50] And it's really compared to when we did our survey, we asked them about whether they would

[2:43:54] see, you know, a $75 to $150 a year increase as reasonable or $150 to $202 to $300.

[2:44:01] There were quite a few respondents that would say that there was a value if we could do both

[2:44:05] these facilities there's value in that higher range and if we can package it correctly in the form

[2:44:11] our voters effectively on what we're going to be doing at the bond what we are going to build what

[2:44:16] we're not going to build and I think we heard that a lot about previous bond efforts is that you

[2:44:21] know people were surprised that they said hey we thought you were going to do xyz with this bond

[2:44:25] and you didn't so we need to make sure what this bond will do and also be very explicit about what it

[2:44:31] will not do and really we're looking at the two facilities we'll have a plan for additional

[2:44:35] facilities and grounds and other things later on. We just need to get these anchor facilities built.

[2:44:42] And then once we get to that point, we Dave's advised us that probably by the end of July,

[2:44:46] we should have our bond package ready for you guys to review, to potentially vote on to put

[2:44:51] on the ballot sometime late July, early August. So I will be back here in a couple weeks and the

[2:44:56] 15th with our updates on our costs.

[2:44:58] I'll have some rendering to show with you.

[2:45:00] And probably share some additional public input based on where we went from our public surveys in May. Listening to the public, redesigning and reconfiguring the program to meet those needs and those demands and see what the public reaction is. And I'll bring that back to you next month.

[2:45:31] Questions. Are you ready for some questions? Oh, absolutely. I'm sorry. Okay. All right, Mr. Chair. Please. So, um, the bottom of your penultimate slide, you had a question.

[2:45:45] for the county, whether we like the two-site strategy before you start spending design dollars.

[2:45:53] And you've also outlined in your time, and whether we like the timeline, in your timeline,

[2:46:02] you, I think, are rightfully sensitive about the public sensitivity to additional taxation,

[2:46:12] even if self-imposed, property taxation.

[2:46:18] And so to me it's a little hard to give a lot of concrete feedback.

[2:46:26] Would you be building the two?

[2:46:29] Would you be issuing a bond in the near future to build both facilities?

[2:46:35] Yes, I think in particularly in talking with Zion,

[2:46:37] They're looking at where we are with our bond rating and what the current interest rate is for municipal bonds for a general obligation.

[2:46:44] What did they get? What rate did they get?

[2:46:46] I think we're at 3%, between 3 and 4%. So we have a very good bond rating. We're at the one AA rating yet.

[2:46:53] We share the same rating as the county. So thank you for having a good Moody's credit score.

[2:46:59] But I think also in looking at this is that in looking at what the public salmon has been,

[2:47:04] And then, hey, we've been talking about a lot of these things for 10 years.

[2:47:07] And that, you know, there really hasn't been much action.

[2:47:10] And then there's also, quite frankly, the thing is that you don't know what the future

[2:47:13] is going to hold.

[2:47:14] We could roll the dice and say, hey, we could come out for another bond in five years for

[2:47:17] the second facility.

[2:47:19] But there is a need now.

[2:47:21] There is, we have a very good credit.

[2:47:24] We have the opportunity now.

[2:47:26] And I think that some of the sentiment we got from the residents, we met them at the field

[2:47:30] of house, it's like either just do this, do it right, or don't do it at all.

[2:47:35] And most of them are not necessarily go big or go home, but do it right and do it now.

[2:47:40] And this is really going to set basin up really for the next 30 years and beyond, because

[2:47:44] in looking at what the growth is coming with these two facilities, we'll be able to maintain

[2:47:49] the growth, we'll be able to expand our offerings with new programming, but then also expand the

[2:47:54] current offerings that they have that the residents are feeling the pressure on, the health

[2:47:58] of wellness and fitness. You're not at a point where you are spit-balling what the range

[2:48:06] of the bond offering might be. I have an idea but I'm not quite ready to share it yet.

[2:48:11] We have cost estimators that are currently working on it based on the current programmatic

[2:48:15] square feet. I should have that by this week and then so come July 8th. I'll be able to share it

[2:48:20] not only with our voters but they want to come back in the 15th. They'll be able to share that with

[2:48:24] you and so we're having a professional third party estimator give us what today's construction

[2:48:30] costs would be and as you're well aware construction costs never go down so we run the risk that if

[2:48:36] we choose to separate these two into two separate programs and maybe you want a bond you know let's

[2:48:41] just say hypothetically that it would be a 30 or 40 man dollar bond for the east canyon client

[2:48:46] dolly property we delayed five years that could be a 69 dollar project very easily just because of

[2:48:51] cost. Speaking of the latter, when you refer to ease can and you're really talking

[2:48:57] client-dollar. Correct. And in your slide, it said 40,000 feet. But then you

[2:49:04] mentioned 42,000 feet as being inadequate. And then the slide said 60,000 feet.

[2:49:12] But you said that 64,000 feet was needed and that there may not be room enough to

[2:49:18] do that and you might face it. Could you explain what you meant by all of that?

[2:49:23] And maybe I heard wrong. So the program, the diagram, the diagram bubbles that we showed to

[2:49:28] our residents in May showed square footage and the total best square footage based on a footprint

[2:49:34] was 42,000 square feet. That's where they came back and they said that's too small. They also said

[2:49:40] we'd prefer you putting the aquatics at Silver Creek and we would like to see some courts at the

[2:49:44] So we have now changed our program analysis with our architects.

[2:49:49] We have three courts in at that facility at Klein Dolly,

[2:49:53] which also includes now a climbing facility,

[2:49:55] which is a little bit bigger than we originally planned at the Silver Creek Village.

[2:49:59] So.

[2:50:00] The new square footage for that facility is the 62,000. So we've added about 20,000 square foot of programming at the clientele. It will fit on that side. It will fit on that side. You'd built that as a campaign not in phases. Correct. So the idea, and we know that there are some site amenities that we wanted to put there. I've already had conversations with Tony. It doesn't make sense for us to put a lot of the site amenities in place because he's going to be out there building when that, if that project goes forward. So our main focus is going to be getting the building built and getting it

[2:50:29] open, and then I can use other funds whether it be impact fees, grants, or other things

[2:50:34] that then build out the additional site and menus outside the building.

[2:50:38] So speaking of impact fees, you mentioned that you want to do a capital facilities plan

[2:50:44] and then a new impact fee study and you have mentioned some 4,600 new on the books residences.

[2:50:53] is how do you come up with that number?

[2:50:55] And would if you hadn't a revised impact fee,

[2:51:00] do you know by what amount that would reduce,

[2:51:03] the amount you'd need dispensed of money?

[2:51:08] The demand units were total by Zion.

[2:51:11] So Eric, with Zion's and I met with Peter.

[2:51:16] And we went through everything that's currently

[2:51:18] on the books with county planning.

[2:51:20] And that includes the Dakota PC.

[2:51:21] Peter is Peter Barnes.

[2:51:22] Correct.

[2:51:22] So Dakota Pacific, this is Tony's development, the clone specific, Klein Dolly, we know we have the developments going in it.

[2:51:29] What was the teninger balls, the elephant, whatever you want to call them, the balls that are there.

[2:51:33] There are several developments that are going in or thought of in and around the home depot area.

[2:51:37] So I'm looking at everything that basically Peter knew about, that could potentially come in, that either was going and

[2:51:43] going through the perming and planning phase, or things that people have kind of talked about.

[2:51:48] What we came up with is in looking at those, those are 4,600 demand units that are coming

[2:51:53] from those developments alone.

[2:51:55] How would you, and as to if you had a revised impact fee, would that have a big bearing

[2:52:04] in reducing the amount you need to bond for, or would it not be that material?

[2:52:11] Well, the problem is with impact fees, those are collected over time.

[2:52:13] Right.

[2:52:13] So I would not and they are time limited.

[2:52:18] I have to spend an impact fee within six years of collecting it.

[2:52:20] So I wouldn't be able to save up enough of the impact fees that cover the cost of the facility.

[2:52:25] Within the impact fee program itself, those new developments are given a credit.

[2:52:29] So because of the bond debt that we have, they are given a credit.

[2:52:33] So they're given a discount on their impact fees because as soon as they convert from being a proposed building to then going into paying the tax base,

[2:52:41] become an actual developed area that make that conversion so our impact fee plan does give the

[2:52:48] developers a credit for the bond debt on their impact fees. There will be an increase in our

[2:52:53] impact fees. Just in looking at the demand load, everything that we have across our system has had

[2:52:59] a service level decrease because of the growth that we've seen already plus the growth that we have

[2:53:03] coming over the next 10 years. How much is your current residential impact fee roughly?

[2:53:08] I want to say it's like 20 it's mid 2000 like 2500 to 3000 and it'll probably be going up to just over 3000 okay

[2:53:17] So it's not a huge show. We're not doubling our fees. So years ago when we the county were trying to get voter approval for some transportation sales taxes

[2:53:28] We tried to approach it

[2:53:31] judiciously with the public in trying to make our case

[2:53:35] making sure that we would have success

[2:53:39] and wondering how you intend, you've had an open house,

[2:53:44] but how would you intend to bring the public

[2:53:48] more into the fold?

[2:53:49] I saw in your slide that you intend to send out

[2:53:53] like financial statements or something.

[2:53:56] So people, you may be more transparent with where

[2:53:58] the money's going and how you're doing,

[2:54:00] but can you put more color to that?

[2:54:03] How you would...

[2:54:05] I think some of it is really be careful how we talk about this, but I know that I live

[2:54:12] in the basement.

[2:54:13] I'm a homeowner.

[2:54:14] I know what I pay for taxes.

[2:54:16] I know what I pay for federal taxes.

[2:54:17] And I know that when I pay my property tax, the federal government doesn't take as much

[2:54:20] as my personal income tax.

[2:54:22] So I think it's also about really telling folks, it's not a new tax.

[2:54:25] We're just helping you redistribute your taxes that you already pay.

[2:54:28] So you'd end up being paying less of the federal government on your personal income tax,

[2:54:32] property tax, and then talking with signs and others and other financial advisors, despite

[2:54:38] the perception, we really do have a very low tax rate here in Summit County, and I'm

[2:54:43] not trying to speak to any one individual's specific situation, but I think the other

[2:54:50] part of this is that in a realizing that when people pay their taxes, there's a lot of frustration

[2:54:54] because their taxes just go wherever they don't know what they're going to.

[2:54:57] I think one of the things we can say is that this-

[2:55:00] This tax or the bond would absolutely go to something that not only would they be able to see, they'd be able to touch it, to feel it, use it, and understand it, and really have a benefit from it for a long period of time.

[2:55:11] We do have a low tax rate, but we also have high assess value, so the total bill being paid is a lot of dollars, and would maybe spoiled it by not really carrying what the tax rate is. If you would have compared the other 28 counties,

[2:55:29] you'd see we're probably in the bottom five for tax rate, but that's a hard

[2:55:36] argument to make, because especially when they're used to paying whatever amount

[2:55:41] now, and there's been all these additive taxes, but you mentioned in your

[2:55:45] presentation about there, you met with ions and you have some bonds that are

[2:55:52] rolling off, could you, or that where you've got, you know, it's not all new, there's

[2:55:58] that would be retired, could you explain that a little more carefully?

[2:56:03] I will be more prepared to present that to you in July because I've started the conversation.

[2:56:07] You know, we've had the preliminary conversation because it really depends on what the amount of the bond we're going to go for.

[2:56:12] And I actually have a meeting set up with Brian from Zion's next week.

[2:56:15] So that's one of the things I want to talk to him about because we need to get that messaging clear so that I can explain it to our residents and our voters.

[2:56:22] What that means when we basically refinance or reconfigure our current bond debt and how that's going to work.

[2:56:28] So I'm not a financial guru. He's mentioned to it in passing and he's given me some preliminary numbers that basically show that say we would go for a bond that would cost right now without restructuring would be in a $200 a year additional tax that we if we restructural current bond that we would actually bring that down to like 150 to 100.

[2:56:46] So it's it's it's not that you have that that's retiring, but you were in a call period where you could

[2:56:55] be to extend extend maturities out. You're not you're not going to get a lower right probably than what you have now, but you might be able to

[2:57:03] extend current debt out such that the annual

[2:57:07] No, I believe the idea basically what we end up doing is with the addition new tax we would delay paying on the new bond for several years and we would take that additional money

[2:57:15] we'd pay off the old bonds quicker. So we're just going to be paying on the principal

[2:57:19] a lot quicker and we would get them cleared within three to four years. Okay. Thank you. Those are all

[2:57:24] my questions. I don't really have any questions today because I know we'll be seeing you again soon.

[2:57:34] But I really appreciate this information found it very useful. I like all the data to support what

[2:57:41] you're trying to do to move forward. So thank you for doing that. And that's all I have to say for

[2:57:46] today. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. I know we're running a little bit behind you, so I'll keep

[2:57:53] us brief, but I'll echo what Tanya said. I really appreciate the presentation tonight. I did want

[2:58:01] to say I saw several of your employees last weekend at the trails Trash and Tune and even and just

[2:58:09] really appreciate the work and we talked a lot about this actually. And so this is really exciting.

[2:58:15] I think I do, I like the two-building approach.

[2:58:18] I think it makes a lot of sense.

[2:58:20] I think a rec pool in this overcreek area is really exciting

[2:58:25] to, you know, especially the affordable housing

[2:58:29] and families that I think can really utilize that out there.

[2:58:33] I think in terms of traffic and kind of, you know,

[2:58:36] spreading it out, I think it makes a lot of sense.

[2:58:39] I liked the leading with the annual household cost.

[2:58:44] I think that that makes a lot of sense and is helpful for people.

[2:58:47] I think when we see these big bond numbers, it can be, you know, it can sound like a lot more than, you know, when it's actually how much are we really paying additionally each year?

[2:58:59] And so, and it sounds like a majority of people do support, you know, around the 70 year.

[2:59:07] So I'm interested to learn more in July when that happens.

[2:59:12] I appreciate the simplified fee.

[2:59:15] That was actually my question was if you were going to have different

[2:59:18] memberships for the different buildings.

[2:59:20] And I think that's a really smart way to do it.

[2:59:23] So thank you for that.

[2:59:27] I was curious about that you said you won't reach capacity until next year.

[2:59:32] But that's already seems to be the perception that it's already

[2:59:36] overcrowded or is it, but we're not actually at capacity yet?

[2:59:41] We are.

[2:59:42] I mean, on paper, you know, if you're, basically if you're running the numbers it's

[2:59:46] signed as it basically says, for X amount of units of residents, we're supposed to provide

[2:59:51] X square feet of recreation that, you know, on paper if you do the math for the number

[2:59:58] for a reasonable number of demand.

[3:00:00] The next year will be out, but in reality, even though we have fewer, we may have the fewer demand units that aren't filled right now, people are coming. And so we do have people that are saying, hey, I'm avoiding the field house because it's crowded. I can't get in the time when I want to, or when I want to go. Granted, you can go to the field house a lot of time during any part of the day, and it wouldn't be as crowded. But, you know, a lot of us have jobs. And so it's, you know, going at 11 o'clock in the morning, you can't do, and that's one of our least busiest.

[3:00:27] But by having additional facilities, that's what I am stressing to a lot of them.

[3:00:33] Like with our senior fit classes, there's a lot of demand there.

[3:00:38] We have to cap it at 50 participants and there's a wait list.

[3:00:41] But by having, you know, and that's one of the things, if I had additional facilities somewhere, I could run two of those classes

[3:00:45] and you wouldn't have to be wait listed.

[3:00:48] And that's really what it comes down to looking at the capacity.

[3:00:50] So from a capacity of use, we're over capacity right now.

[3:00:54] If you're looking at capacity of numbers of just basic households to square footage of

[3:00:59] wreck facility, we'll hit that number next year.

[3:01:02] Got to. Okay. Well, thank you again. It's been a busy eight months. It sounds like.

[3:01:08] So I really appreciate this and your staff to David who I talked to last week. I used to babysit

[3:01:16] when he was a newborn actually. So I just, yeah, much gratitude to you and this last eight

[3:01:24] and look forward to learning more in July.

[3:01:27] Thank you.

[3:01:28] Hi, Brian. He is Council Member Hart online.

[3:01:31] One moment, let me check.

[3:01:35] No, he is not.

[3:01:37] Okay.

[3:01:38] Bob, I've got to say it's a great presentation.

[3:01:41] Listening to you talk about it reminds me of the first interview that we had

[3:01:46] when you were applied for the job.

[3:01:48] And it's knowing what was coming in terms of facilities

[3:01:53] facilities and seeing your background in logistics and facilities, this is kind of what I hope

[3:01:59] from my seat. So thanks for the work that you've done. You read the board as well. I agree

[3:02:08] to facilities that want to might as well bite the bullet if you're going to do it. I'm getting

[3:02:13] back to one of the questions that Chris asked. I think whenever we go for this kind of bonding,

[3:02:21] It's really important to come up with a message that explains what you want to do, what

[3:02:27] you want to do it, which you've already started crafting, and to explain the financial

[3:02:33] part of it clearly so that people understand it, and so it doesn't create more angst than

[3:02:39] it answers, and then to start doing the outreach.

[3:02:44] and I think by seeing the information and that information approach, you know, when we did

[3:02:51] out of the transportation sales tax, we went to the chamber. We went so that we had all the

[3:02:58] businesses aware of it. You might want to consider going to each of ways, right? Just try and get to

[3:03:05] people where they live, where they can sit and have, not just open houses, because those seem to be

[3:03:12] kind of catches catch can and you know true believers will show up and others may not

[3:03:18] and you may not be speaking to the people that you really need to convince as much as people

[3:03:24] there on board with anything you would propose. And I think there's a lot of positive messaging here.

[3:03:30] Facility life, facilities like this are part of the health wellness of the community. It's not just

[3:03:37] or a recreation and amenity to go have fun.

[3:03:40] It's a means for seniors to stay in shape and to stay healthy

[3:03:46] and be able to get a decent workout in,

[3:03:49] particularly in an environment where half the year we can't get out on trails,

[3:03:55] we can't get out to do some of the other stuff that would help contribute to fitness.

[3:04:00] So those indoor facilities might not be important.

[3:04:02] And it may be that our community economics are such that this is a different entry point

[3:04:11] for private facilities to do this.

[3:04:14] One we think that, again, given what seems to be a desire for these kinds of fitness

[3:04:20] facilities, we don't see a lot of private organizations stepping up to provide that.

[3:04:26] And I suspect for land costs, plus the margins that those facilities operate under, it's

[3:04:34] probably a tough bet for them to make a run of it in a place like this, unless your fees

[3:04:38] are so high that it's really only catering to a group that can afford it, not everybody

[3:04:44] and not across the board, so my advice is get the messaging down and start taking it out

[3:04:51] to the people.

[3:04:52] also is not a surprise one month before the election that there's a bond that's going

[3:04:56] to land and people don't know what to do it July will be our kind of

[3:05:00] So I mentioned July 8th. You know, we're have a couple events. We are already planning on basically what I'm, instead of Ted Talks, we're doing Ted Talks. We, you know, being based on, we know all the different activities are going on out there. We plan on going to these activities, events that private people are coming in hosting on our property. We know where our communities are. We've got our summer camps. We've got our summer soccer leagues. We plan on going to where the parents and our users are and presenting this information to them to the entire month of July. Thank you. Great presentation.

[3:05:31] That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, how to abuse stringers on gockers that came in. Who are they? It looks like some board members kind of.

[3:05:51] Thank you. All right. Folks, moving on. Next up, let me see. I lost this.

[3:06:03] Sorry. I'm computer illiterate right now.

[3:06:07] We are going to revisit the restaurant tax denial for North Summit special, a recreation

[3:06:18] special, service district we have got, Katie Mason, he, Katie, tells us what we're talking

[3:06:24] about here.

[3:06:24] There was an application for a grant and I think you have part of it, if not all of it, you

[3:06:29] have all lighting and there was some notion that maybe the board was not struggled a bit

[3:06:35] with whether that lighting plan was complete and complete enough to just fly awarding a grant

[3:06:42] to it and ultimately decided not to. And I think Councilmember Hanson on behalf of her district,

[3:06:50] which is where North Summit Basin and Northart Records was concerned that perhaps this grant request

[3:06:58] looked a lot like the last one that we had last year that was granted and I think wanted to understand

[3:07:03] and better the distinction that was made

[3:07:07] and whether that distinction was the right one.

[3:07:10] Is that good?

[3:07:11] Okay.

[3:07:13] I can go over a little bit

[3:07:15] what the advisory board why they made,

[3:07:18] you know, why they chose not to fund.

[3:07:20] In the rationale that they had in the packet,

[3:07:23] their wording is the advisory board was unable

[3:07:26] to allocate the entire amount needed

[3:07:28] to complete the project,

[3:07:30] advises to reapply with additional sources

[3:07:32] funding and intent to complete the entire project in a timely manner.

[3:07:38] So a little bit of the issue here is they did receive funding last year for the project.

[3:07:43] They weren't able to complete the project in the 18-month time period that they have.

[3:07:49] And they reapplied just based on the application.

[3:07:55] Some of the questions in here and how they grade and score the application.

[3:08:00] One of the questions is if the applicant has other funding sources to help complete the project and they didn't have any other funding sources and so that really plays into their reasoning there of, you know, the entire project is going to cost $427,000.

[3:08:22] They've received $100,000 from the county grants.

[3:08:26] They still have $3,000, $27,000 that they have to raise to complete the project.

[3:08:32] And so the advisory board just felt like without other sources of funding, they're not able

[3:08:37] to complete it in the 18-month time period.

[3:08:39] So it's just going to kind of drag on year after year.

[3:08:43] So they really wanted to see North Summit find other sources of funding.

[3:08:50] Is that 18 month time period a statutory requirement or is it part of our ordinance that created?

[3:08:59] I mean, it's part of our ordinance.

[3:09:01] So if they can't complete the entire project in 18 months, we shouldn't be giving them the money. Is that the idea?

[3:09:06] Yeah, that's the policy at least.

[3:09:10] Is that a prohibition or is it a shouldn't or do you know?

[3:09:15] Yeah, let me check. Okay.

[3:09:20] So we know if we can or not. Well, I do know historically,

[3:09:27] because I was on restaurant tax, committee for many, many years, and that's been many years ago,

[3:09:33] but I have to tell you, every time this comes up, there's so many of the same applications of when I was

[3:09:38] on so many years ago, it's just like, okay, that's how that's getting paid for. But there's been many

[3:09:47] Many times, I feel that projects have come forward and haven't had enough money to complete

[3:09:53] that project, and they've been funded again.

[3:09:58] And you're new.

[3:10:00] So, you maybe don't recall those instances, but I can recall a Oakley ball field, for example,

[3:10:11] funded numerous years to complete that project. That's just one off the top of my head.

[3:10:17] Also, when I look at this scoring in this, sustainable tourism is worth 20 points.

[3:10:29] Cultural

[3:10:29] which would be additional funding, 15 points.

[3:10:33] Increase 1% tax is 20 points.

[3:10:36] New or developing, this would be developing, right?

[3:10:41] In my opinion, 10 points and an asset, 25 points.

[3:10:47] So this applicant application

[3:10:50] should not have been scored of a zero.

[3:10:52] So if you look at it just from a points system,

[3:10:56] an asset's 25 points,

[3:10:58] It's not should have given them something, in my opinion.

[3:11:01] Now this is my opinion, and this is up for debate

[3:11:03] with the rest of the council as well.

[3:11:05] But what I read, what was also said

[3:11:08] when this was presented a few weeks ago,

[3:11:11] and we asked specifically why wasn't this funded,

[3:11:14] the response was the application was not specific enough.

[3:11:19] But then I looked at the application

[3:11:21] and it's pretty darn specific.

[3:11:23] So these are the things that are coming up in my mind

[3:11:27] of why they shouldn't get, should have gotten something if you just looked at the scoring

[3:11:31] along.

[3:11:33] Yeah.

[3:11:33] And I think that the advisory board was thinking, you know, because I don't think they scored

[3:11:39] a zero with everybody, you know, they were getting points.

[3:11:44] I think it was more if we can't fund the entire 327,000, they're not going to be able to complete

[3:11:50] this project and they're just going to keep coming back year after year.

[3:11:54] So I think that's that's what that was going did they apply or asked to

[3:11:58] applicant that during the interview if we can't only give you a portion what

[3:12:04] what will this look like in the future? Well it's one of the questions in

[3:12:07] the application and they they just looked at blank they didn't put that they could

[3:12:10] get funding from from any other source. I understand but a lot of times in that

[3:12:15] interview process you'll say hey you left this blank can you explain that and I

[3:12:21] I'm not sure if that happened in the interview.

[3:12:24] I think with, you know, they got the 100,000 last year

[3:12:29] and they also didn't go out and get any other funding

[3:12:32] during that whole time period last year.

[3:12:36] So, so, JC is here, if you want to ask if they have

[3:12:40] other sources of funding, that could help move it along.

[3:12:51] So, yes, we did play for the restaurant tax grant last year, received the $100,000.

[3:12:57] During the interview, we did speak about how doing it in phases because my budget is small.

[3:13:03] I mean, my total budget is $200,000 for the year, and they ask, you know, what would you

[3:13:10] do first?

[3:13:11] Would you do pickleball or basketball courts or the field?

[3:13:14] And in my interview, I stated that I, how do you choose that?

[3:13:19] So and it's easier to do all it wants is more cost effective.

[3:13:23] You don't have to dig up the lines.

[3:13:25] You don't have to do it again, re-landscape.

[3:13:27] And so we were going to do it in phases.

[3:13:30] And so with this $100,000 that I got last year, we were hoping to get more funding this year

[3:13:34] from restaurant and RAP to do the phase one.

[3:13:37] It's going to cost me $154,000.

[3:13:40] that includes to do install the conduits, the electrical lines, circuit wipers and keep them covered,

[3:13:46] so no one gets injured, they stay safe, and then the next phase would be to install

[3:13:52] put the LED lights, the poles, timer system, and a scoreboard for the remainder 267,000.

[3:13:59] That was explained in my interview. The remark I got was to go get funding from Big Canyon,

[3:14:04] and go ask that from which Flair Construction has donated.

[3:14:09] I applied for Rocky Mountain Power Foundation.

[3:14:12] Hopefully we'll receive $15,000 from that.

[3:14:14] I'm also applying for team mobile.

[3:14:16] They've offered 26 million to use program foundation.

[3:14:21] So yes, we are actively looking,

[3:14:24] but $500 from Flair Construction doesn't go far.

[3:14:29] So that's, right now we're stuck.

[3:14:32] We're in a standpoint of I would like to move forward I the community wants lights. They will but was a hundred thousand. I can't

[3:14:40] Do much so that's why a

[3:14:44] Three marks you got last week or whatever it was was incorrect

[3:14:47] I did give a very descriptive application. I can tell you exactly how many lights and polls and

[3:14:54] So that was my frustration is what you guys were told was incorrect

[3:15:00] Thank you. Megan, any questions?

[3:15:05] No, I guess more generally and this would be a question for Katie. And I'm so glad that we have you here now. I know you weren't here for this last round and you just started this year. And so I'm really excited to have your expertise, you know, in in this role and going forward. What would you tell applicants?

[3:15:30] And in order to move forward, because we hear from applicants that either didn't get

[3:15:39] as much as they wanted or didn't get funded, what kind of support does the county offer

[3:15:45] so that in the next go around, people are more prepared or get the feedback they need

[3:15:51] to get the funding that they're looking for?

[3:15:55] Yeah, I think that's a great question.

[3:15:56] I think with these applications, I think that this application could have had more information in it and that it actually could have been a better application.

[3:16:09] So always before applying anyone can reach out and I can go over the application with them and make sure that they understand everything that needs to be in the application.

[3:16:21] I've also rebamped our website to just make sure that a lot of, you know, the requirements

[3:16:27] for the application are just an ordinance where someone has to go find it, but they're

[3:16:31] right there on the page.

[3:16:33] With this one, it is a little tricky when you are doing really big projects that are

[3:16:37] multi-year projects.

[3:16:38] It just really is hard with these grants because they really are meant to be an annual

[3:16:42] grant where the project is done in an 18-month time period.

[3:16:45] So, that is very tricky with the advisory board when they know that's a requirement of the grant but there's these multi-year projects.

[3:16:54] And so, I don't know the best answer for that other than if you really are going to take on a project that requires this much funding.

[3:17:03] You really do kind of need to show that you have other sources that are going to help you complete the project and not have to come back to the county for four years in a row to complete the project.

[3:17:14] So that's I think that's tricky in this, you know, because I think that this project does fall under this grant, you know, if once it's completed, more tourists will come if they can have tournaments and other things like that, it will bring more tourists to to the east side.

[3:17:31] But it would be really helpful if, you know, they could find some other sources of funding to help move it along a little bit faster.

[3:17:38] Yeah. Thank you. And I think that is a challenge, you know, in thinking of it, you know, across

[3:17:44] the county, like we, you know, want to support all, you know, whether it's governmental or

[3:17:52] non-profits applying for these grants. And some of our non-profits do have a lot more

[3:17:58] funding sources and donor bases, you know, than others. And so just, I guess, trying to

[3:18:04] balance that figure out how we can better support, you know, or, yeah, I don't know how we address that in.

[3:18:12] And I mean, there are organizations that give out multi-year grants, parks that he does it.

[3:18:17] They have three year multi-year grants that you can apply for and receive funding for multiple years.

[3:18:23] So if that's something that the county wanted to do to change the ordinances and have more multi-year grants, we could move, you know, we could do that as well.

[3:18:32] Is that something that that you would recommend or that you're looking into in this role going forward or it's not something I have thought about much.

[3:18:43] So, you know, we could we could think about it more and maybe I would talk to Park City and see if they think it's gone well or it's been tricky to do those multi-year grants.

[3:18:53] But but I think it's it's an option if you wanted to fund some of these larger projects.

[3:18:58] Okay. Thank you. And again, I'm so glad that you're here and I'm part of the county now and in this role.

[3:19:07] Chris.

[3:19:13] Well, I'm generally grateful that we're reconsidering this and just want to better understand.

[3:19:21] And if we were to award some grant,

[3:19:29] what it would look like to North Summit Recreation,

[3:19:31] special service district,

[3:19:34] where the money would come from

[3:19:35] and what it would look like.

[3:19:37] And I asked for $327,000.

[3:19:41] And right.

[3:19:42] Yeah, but.

[3:19:43] And so what are we thinking?

[3:19:49] Let me ask a couple of questions.

[3:19:50] Let me go back to Dave Thomas first, is there a prohibition on granting money for a project we can't be completed in 18?

[3:20:00] There is an prohibition in the ordinance. I think you said policy. It's a policy decision. So we can always wave policy if we want to do that. Correct. Okay.

[3:20:13] I'm just wondering if the structure of the request, I'm trying to get creative here to

[3:20:21] get just some place down the road.

[3:20:25] If the money that was granted would just have been used to put in infrastructure, so

[3:20:33] no project was, there's not a pickleball court that's going to be lit, that somebody can

[3:20:38] get on.

[3:20:38] you're just laying your groundwork so that the next year you start building facilities that match

[3:20:45] up with where you want to put the lighting poles. You're not going to put the lighting poles in

[3:20:49] initially. You're just going to run underground conduit. Is that right? Okay. So I'm wondering if the

[3:20:55] phasing could be different to trigger the funding. In other words, get infrastructure in plus a pickle

[3:21:07] ball court. That's a project. That's one we can tie it to tourism. That's one we can

[3:21:13] tie it to some of the other things that receive points. Whereas just laying lines doesn't

[3:21:21] note. We're not going to attract one tourist to come in and look at your infrastructure.

[3:21:24] They don't care. And it doesn't meet the other needs. If revisiting the purpose of the

[3:21:33] grant that gets the infrastructure in plus something that has utility that matches the

[3:21:41] rest of it. Does that make sense? I'm following you. I'm following you. I just don't know

[3:21:47] if that's. Yeah. I don't need a project. Not ready for that yet. No, because we had to

[3:21:54] cut back on. When I first got started, we had to cut the lights out to complete the project.

[3:22:00] So now we need lights to continue building this complex.

[3:22:05] What's in place now on the complex?

[3:22:07] What exists now?

[3:22:09] A multi-purpose field, those softball, soccer fields.

[3:22:12] Been there.

[3:22:13] It's a great field.

[3:22:14] Yep.

[3:22:14] Or a keyboard and a basketball court.

[3:22:16] So the courts are in.

[3:22:18] They think in but the lighting.

[3:22:20] That's where we're stuck.

[3:22:21] Like next Saturday we have a softball tournament.

[3:22:24] They would rather come at night, have, you know, the games at night, food trucks, but we

[3:22:30] So what if phase one of the project is lights for the softball field period?

[3:22:35] Well, that's when we lumped it all together.

[3:22:37] So if we do this all together just to put in the conduits, it's 154,000.

[3:22:44] And you have 100,000 right now.

[3:22:46] Yeah, I have 100,000 right now.

[3:22:48] We had additional 54,000.

[3:22:50] We can do the conduits and the concrete structure.

[3:22:55] and then come back and face two and put in the polls and LED lights and the

[3:22:59] scoreboard. I'm doing a new application. And that's just the softball field. No

[3:23:04] that's the whole structure. The whole facility is going to cost 427,000. What

[3:23:09] happens if we take that back a bit and just do with the softball field? We're just

[3:23:14] put lights in on the pickleball court just to get something going. Get you down

[3:23:20] on the road. Yeah, I get something, something that has utility that meets the statute or

[3:23:25] meets the requirements of the ordinance. Is there a way to make that work?

[3:23:30] Yeah, we could. But I would like, yes, but we would just have to dig line for the clickable

[3:23:38] on the back of the court later, then.

[3:23:44] So as I understand this is about to say he has a backup you know we do have some of us and some track

[3:23:55] lighting ones but the I'm sure we get wholesome to come in and put it in no problem need a trench.

[3:24:03] So when I read, when I read the packet, you had this $427,000 project for the lighting.

[3:24:12] You asked for $327,000.

[3:24:15] The committee turned you down because they couldn't give you the $327, and that, therefore,

[3:24:22] they didn't want to piece me in it, okay.

[3:24:25] And the reason they couldn't give the $327 was competing against that project.

[3:24:32] But do we have, I mean, in the in the crazy world, let's say we just say great, we want

[3:24:39] to we want you to have enough money to finish this is North Summit.

[3:24:43] REC is an important part of our community.

[3:24:47] Do we have 327,000?

[3:24:51] We don't have that in the annual allotment that we, that the restaurant taxes was allocating.

[3:24:58] right?

[3:24:58] Part of the rest of the text.

[3:24:59] Bye.

[3:25:00] Let's see, we have an annual amount, not how much is how much should they not allocate this year? Well, Chris, the county holds back 10%. I know, I know, I know, I'm not. So that's what you're trying to. Okay. Well, I know without that thing, dipping into the 10%. We allocate all the 90%. Yes. So there's about 70,000 that you could allocate out of the 90% and then out of the 10% there's there's much more. If my understanding is if you allocate out of the 90%

[3:25:29] 90%, we have to go back and open up the grant again and have the advisory board make a recommendation.

[3:25:38] If you use the 10%, then you don't have to go through that, is that correct?

[3:25:45] And then what would become of the 70,000 that's left over?

[3:25:49] It would just go into the allocations for the next funding cycle next year.

[3:25:53] The next funding cycle.

[3:25:55] So how much do you have in the 10% fund?

[3:25:58] Just over two million, okay, four million sorry for four million. Well, he always rounds up when he's he rounds down actually

[3:26:08] So there's like five in one he's selling he rounds up so you know

[3:26:14] Of course being the spend trip that I am and big spender I would be in favor of giving him the 327,000 again the damn thing built out of the 10 percent

[3:26:30] Not this is a damn thing. That's a figure of speech.

[3:26:32] Have I ever told you how much I love you, Chris Robinson?

[3:26:35] Not this week.

[3:26:41] You know, Nois Summit as a seat of the government here doesn't, you know,

[3:26:48] a lot of this money gets spread all over the county and I know it's generated in other places,

[3:26:53] but Nois Summit doesn't get much and it doesn't have much to ask for.

[3:26:58] I think if they need lights here, we ought to give them the lights.

[3:27:08] You're going to make me cry.

[3:27:12] I don't have any time.

[3:27:13] Yes, I've been online.

[3:27:15] Okay.

[3:27:17] Not the last three times I checked.

[3:27:19] We're cleared.

[3:27:20] I've been online for this topic.

[3:27:23] Okay.

[3:27:24] Do you have any thoughts?

[3:27:27] I'm torn.

[3:27:28] I mean, I get this sympathy of Chris's idea of the entire lights,

[3:27:31] but you talk about the mother of all special exceptions.

[3:27:35] Like, I think you're setting a precedent that you're now going to have to answer for

[3:27:41] we get the next year. So I mean I love the idea of supporting North Summit that part's easy but

[3:27:47] like every time you do this kind of stuff you're just hoping to do it for another person.

[3:27:50] It's just shows favoritism so you got to be careful.

[3:27:55] I guess I have the luxury of not having to live with that constantly.

[3:27:59] Yeah exactly like you won't be here. Well who knows if I'm here but you know I'm all for supporting

[3:28:04] North Summit. I just I just really worry about the president you're setting just

[3:28:08] because we have a propensity for loving this organization.

[3:28:14] Yeah, you can blame that crazy guy that stepped off finally.

[3:28:22] Do you want me to make a motion?

[3:28:25] I don't want to.

[3:28:26] It's not.

[3:28:31] We could let stand the committee's decision.

[3:28:37] We could run it back through the committee and they might allocate 70,000

[3:28:41] unless they were to take money away from other applicants.

[3:28:46] or this thing just gets kicked down the road another year.

[3:28:51] So in absolute terms we should not kick it back to the committee because now you're affecting all of the organizations.

[3:28:59] And we should not force the committee to do something.

[3:29:03] I mean, unless we thought this back when we approved it, we shouldn't be going back on the committee on something like this.

[3:29:09] So in my mind, if you're going to do something, you have to do it out of the 10% and then that way you don't affect the other organizations.

[3:29:15] they're all fully funded as that was you know that chosen and then you're just

[3:29:20] deciding to pull but then I wonder is this even the process for funding

[3:29:24] something like this but you got to pull out the 10% if you do it. I agree with

[3:29:30] you can't us I don't want to disrupt all of the other applicants I don't think

[3:29:33] best fair we need to look at the 10% I agree with that as well do

[3:29:44] we

[3:29:48] want do we

[3:29:49] I want the whoever makes this agenda to bring it back next time for the next meeting.

[3:29:56] It's in one week, we got one on the 24th.

[3:30:01] Well, I think we've done a lot, the fair line share of the conversation today, so I think we would make it a let's bring it back for a quick item. Okay. We'll do that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Good luck. All right. I'll entertain a motion to go to close for personnel. So moved. Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Someone sent me a link. We have a moment. Okay.

[3:30:31] Listen.

[3:30:33] move by Chris seconded by time you're going to close for personnel. Everybody said okay.

[3:30:39] I don't know.

[3:30:40] Um.

[3:30:44] You just pick it up.

[3:30:45] Yeah.

[3:30:45] Two.

[3:30:46] Seven minutes to get that.

[3:30:47] 12.

[3:30:47] Two.

[3:30:49] We can do it.

[3:31:04] Thanks for the long.

[3:31:06] What kind of.

[3:31:06] The letter.

[3:31:08] How do you think?

[3:31:09] It's pretty awful.

[3:31:11] We're just going to.

[3:31:37] So we're going to.

[3:31:39] Yeah.

[3:31:40] Any color.

[3:31:41] Yeah.

[3:31:45] Yeah.

[3:31:46] Yeah.

[3:33:19] Watch out.

[3:34:37] That way?

[3:34:40] No.

[3:34:42] That way, watch.

[3:34:44] That's right.

[3:34:45] I just heard Mr. Chair.

[3:34:47] Ah.

[3:37:48] Moving along, I will entertain a motion to appoint John Olive to serve the unexpired term of

[3:38:01] done sergeant with the inter-appointment expiring February 28, 2027.

[3:38:13] I'll make that motion, Mr. Chair.

[3:38:18] Second.

[3:38:19] Moved by Chris, seconded by Megan, all those in favor say aye.

[3:38:23] Aye.

[3:38:25] Any opposed?

[3:38:26] And do we have an abstention?

[3:38:28] I will abstain.

[3:38:31] That would be Council Member Hart abstain, he was not able to be present during the interviews.

[3:38:37] And next I will entertain a motion to appoint Terry Dixon to serve on the Eastern Summit

[3:38:48] County Planning Commission with his term expiring February 28, 2029.

[3:38:56] I'm going to move by time you're second by Chris all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion carries any abstentions I abstain.

[3:39:12] Councillor Bajart abstains on this matter as well. All right I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes of May 6 and May 20.

[3:39:37] It's called, isn't it? Not CDBG.

[3:39:43] Really? Okay.

[3:39:46] We had a meeting a couple of weeks ago where we had to split into two meetings because the CDBG has to be its own meeting.

[3:39:52] So it was, I think, a two-minute meeting, but those minutes have to be separately approved.

[3:39:56] or so if we could have for the next time.

[3:40:01] I see that now. I misread it discount because I can't read. Okay. So, Tanya, you were absent on the 20th.

[3:40:11] So, I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes from May 6, 2026.

[3:40:21] Any six is just general. It was a county meeting. Council meeting.

[3:40:25] It's been moved by Canada. I'll second it.

[3:40:28] Move by Canada. Seconded by Chris. All those in diversity. I.

[3:40:31] I. I. Okay.

[3:40:35] Then no, you were there for that one. That was May 6th. Now we're looking at May 20th.

[3:40:41] No, since I was here on this one, too, says absent in the work session on your hands.

[3:40:48] Yeah, but then it says, I made it.

[3:40:51] Did you come back?

[3:40:52] I made emotionally closed.

[3:40:56] Well, I think I was absent, though, because I couldn't.

[3:40:59] Maybe he just came here for closed and left.

[3:41:02] Oh, yeah, that's right.

[3:41:04] Yeah, that's what happened.

[3:41:06] So, entertain a motion to approve the minutes of the council minutes of May 20, 20, 20, 26.

[3:41:15] Second.

[3:41:17] Moved by Chris. Do I have a second?

[3:41:21] Second.

[3:41:22] Seconded by Megan. All those in favor say aye.

[3:41:26] Motion carries unanimously.

[3:41:29] I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes for the CDBG

[3:41:35] minutes of May 22, 2026.

[3:41:38] So moved.

[3:41:39] Second.

[3:41:40] Move by time.

[3:41:41] Seconded by Megan.

[3:41:42] All those in favor say aye.

[3:41:44] Aye.

[3:41:45] Any opposed?

[3:41:47] Absolutely.

[3:41:47] Tiny, you can't make that motion.

[3:41:49] You're right there.

[3:41:49] Oh, I can't make that motion.

[3:41:51] Okay.

[3:41:51] It's all entertained.

[3:41:52] Let's revisit.

[3:41:53] All entertain a motion to approve the CDBG public hearing

[3:41:57] minutes as a kind of counsel from May 22, 2026.

[3:42:21] I'm sorry I was the moment in our meeting where we'll entertain public input so if we have any

[3:42:31] anybody that would like to address the council on any matter that is not something that

[3:42:37] is on the agenda today or a land use item that is either before the Planning Commission

[3:42:42] possibly coming to the council for appeal or currently before the Senate County Council.

[3:42:46] We'd like to hear from you. Please tell us your name.

[3:42:51] Hi. My name is Craig Weakley.

[3:42:54] Weakley.

[3:42:55] I just as reminded all of you, I am a board member of the Park City, the nonprofit Park

[3:43:01] City Senior Citizens Inc. associated with the Senior Center in Park City. I come today with words

[3:43:09] of appreciation, specifically for Dr. Phil Banderam. He last week was on KPCW, you may have heard him,

[3:43:21] interview with Leslie, and in the most recent edition of the Summit County Health newsletter,

[3:43:28] better. He called attention to this being in June, men's mental health month. And he

[3:43:38] noted that we have something of a crisis with respect to men's mental health, hearing

[3:43:45] Utah and hearing some accounting. He cited issues of isolation, loneliness, depression, despair,

[3:43:57] and even suicide. In fact, he noted that in some account the suicide rate is three times

[3:44:02] the national average with this population. So, and he said, and I quote from his newsletter,

[3:44:13] these numbers are staggering to me. They are to me too, and I'm sure to you as well. And I thank

[3:44:24] feel for bringing this to everybody's attention, I think it's a critical issue.

[3:44:31] And we need to do something about it.

[3:44:33] We also need to make doing something about it a priority.

[3:44:39] One of the solutions to a problem like this is senior centers.

[3:44:47] like the ones here in Colville, in Camus, and of course in Park City.

[3:44:54] senior centers draw people out of isolation.

[3:45:00] Engage them with their peers, through congregate meals, through communal activities and programming. They build community, which is exactly what these folks need. And I want to thank the council and the staff, particularly Janna Young, for embarking on a strategic review of senior services here in some accounting. You all put money in the budget. For this year to hire

[3:45:29] consultant to lead this project. It is underway. It kicked off in May. And in fact, the consultant

[3:45:38] that was hired is in town tonight. In fact, they're here the rest of the week. And they're

[3:45:44] doing community engagement. They're striving to understand the needs and aspirations of our seniors.

[3:45:51] And tonight, in fact, as we speak, there's an event at ledges. And it's an open house for the

[3:45:59] community for seniors across Summit County and others to come and share their thoughts.

[3:46:06] And I hope you'll join me when this Council session concludes and head over to Ledges

[3:46:13] and participate in that event because we do need to make this a priority in Summit County

[3:46:21] and address the issues like the one that Phil Dr. Bonda has identified.

[3:46:27] Thank you.

[3:46:29] Thanks Craig.

[3:46:30] Thanks for all you do in this space.

[3:46:33] Thank you.

[3:46:35] Anybody else?

[3:46:38] Ryan, how are we looking online?

[3:46:42] There are no hands raised online, Mr. Chair.

[3:46:45] Thank you.

[3:46:46] Okay.

[3:46:46] Then I'm going to close public input for today.

[3:46:49] Making council comments.

[3:46:51] Sure.

[3:46:52] No, I'll keep this brief.

[3:46:54] I just wanted to say thanks to our Arts Council.

[3:46:58] for another great Latino arts fest last weekend.

[3:47:02] It was great to catch up with Jocelyn and see

[3:47:06] that every year that grow.

[3:47:08] I got to go for the Brazil watch party,

[3:47:12] which was really fun.

[3:47:13] And I also got to ride the Bob.

[3:47:16] So High Valley Transit rolled out the Bob

[3:47:18] for their, what were they calling it?

[3:47:20] The Tiny Bus Concert, which was really cool.

[3:47:23] So thanks to High Valley for that as well.

[3:47:26] Last weekend was the first annual, they're calling it,

[3:47:29] Canvas Bike Rodeo.

[3:47:31] Canvas and I were both there.

[3:47:33] I didn't realize the search and rescue

[3:47:34] was going to have a tent there as well.

[3:47:36] This is at the Canvas branch of the library.

[3:47:40] Really great.

[3:47:40] Just shout out to Katie Stelplug and her team there

[3:47:45] at Canvas for putting on a really great community event.

[3:47:49] That was really well attended and lots

[3:47:53] of great participation from the search and rescue volunteers as well.

[3:47:58] I just wanted to say one more time the housing authority is the second

[3:48:02] speaker series is on Monday and it'd be really great if anyone that's able to

[3:48:07] can attend that's up mountain regional water the topic this time is open space

[3:48:12] and housing that's 530 to 730 at their new facility on Monday and then lastly I

[3:48:20] I just wanted to recognize, I had the opportunity to attend Park City Municipal, provided a celebration for staff member Rhoda Stoffer and her retirement today, and I really just wanted to highlight what she has done for the community, for across the county in terms of affordable housing.

[3:48:41] She is someone who has dedicated her career 40 years in affordable housing, half of which

[3:48:48] at Park City Municipal.

[3:48:52] And so from a professional level, she's been wonderful to work with in a tremendous

[3:48:58] resource for the community, but also on a personal level.

[3:49:01] I would not be in my housing that I'm in today if it weren't for her and her dedication.

[3:49:07] and so I just wanted to acknowledge her work and her service to the community is much

[3:49:16] appreciated.

[3:49:20] I just wanted to share with you that I had the opportunity yesterday to attend the

[3:49:25] planning department's meeting and it is such a great meeting.

[3:49:31] I cannot stress enough.

[3:49:32] If you really want to know what's going on in Summit County, that's the meeting to go to.

[3:49:35] All the planning staff is there, engineering is there, the inspectors are there,

[3:49:41] legal is there.

[3:49:43] I'm going to forget someone, but all these people are there talking about all the projects going on in the county.

[3:49:49] Peter, thank you for allowing me to come in and participate in that.

[3:49:55] It was very enlightening, so thanks.

[3:50:00] I don't have any. Canvas.

[3:50:05] I just wanted to call out that the host communities, the Utah,

[3:50:10] 2034, Coast communities, we had a meeting on Monday. We're still really doing, formulating

[3:50:17] kind of strategy and plans. We're quite early still in the process. And the next meeting

[3:50:21] will be in August. And Megan was great seeing you out there that event as well. Really

[3:50:27] I think you'd see the kiddos on their bikes getting free helmets and running this cool

[3:50:32] obstacle course that I found basically confusing that they were able to figure out.

[3:50:36] So, great community then out there in Canvas.

[3:50:41] Thank you.

[3:50:42] Okay.

[3:50:43] Thanks.

[3:50:44] Council, happy to report.

[3:50:45] We had a very successful meeting yesterday, public meeting around the proposal to accommodate

[3:50:51] up to 50,000 square feet of additional density in the public-private partnership with six

[3:51:00] rich partners that would accommodate three separate buildings that would be for maybe

[3:51:08] to be determined public spaces, but either quasi-governmental, non-profit, some kind of community

[3:51:15] benefit.

[3:51:18] I'm intending to sign that agreement next week, so I want you to know that.

[3:51:24] This Friday is Juneteenth. It's a holiday for the county to celebrate that important

[3:51:30] day. We also have a ribbon cutting that day for the art project along the rail trail.

[3:51:37] Quilted ribbon. Quilted. It's just called quilted. I'm getting, it did not. It's still taking

[3:51:44] in place at 11 a.m. on on on Friday and I will be there. I would love it if any of you could make it.

[3:51:51] We're going to need RSVPs for the Oakley rodeo soon but we can leave that for another day but

[3:51:55] please put that on your radar and if you have, if you know how many tickets you need please let me

[3:51:59] Jan or Nat know as soon as possible. That's on Wednesday the first. Wednesday the first of July correct

[3:52:05] and that's enough tonight. Thank you. So when I quiz him on something I can't. When you said

[3:52:11] three separate buildings like the the my understanding is that the the two

[3:52:21] ten up to ten thousand square foot spaces that the county would own it could

[3:52:27] be used by the likes of nonprofits or the chamber would be part of larger

[3:52:33] buildings on the podium not separate building. That's a good clarification face in

[3:52:38] building. Yes, I know I know one of them is incorporated another 10,000 into an

[3:52:44] already existing 60,000 square foot building. So that's these are spaces is

[3:52:48] probably better termination. Right. Thank you for that. The one that would be

[3:52:52] stand alone would be the one for the Kimberlite. Right. Just west of the peak

[3:52:56] center up to 30,000 square feet. Thank you. Thank you.

[3:53:01] Inheriting the motion to adjourn.

[3:53:02] So moved.

[3:53:04] Move by Chris, seconded by Tony, all those in favor say aye.

[3:53:07] Aye.

[3:53:08] We adjourned.

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