Town Council July 8th, 2026 Meeting

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[1:27] June 1st, the 10th, 17th, and the 24th, which the last two were executive
[1:33] meetings.
[1:49] And I have the allowance docket which is payroll $26,881.30.
[1:55] 30 cents
[2:00] » stock
[2:10] vouchers for the month at 103,733.80.
[2:17] I make my vouchers. Second favor.
[2:25] Thank you. That's all I have.
[2:46] is main street.
[2:54] Last meeting we earn $12,000 short of the minimum bid.
[3:13] as we know the plan is is that I plan on putting in the dirty peach at PK office
[3:19] uh the historical society and the next building uh the storage unit will be
[3:25] torn down um and then past this and that building
[3:30] I'm not sure to this point yet might uh use that for a boutique if I can salvage
[3:38] it. Um, but I do know that I have talked with Mass County Council of Governments
[3:45] and um, so that $60,000 U grant,
[3:53] you guys have not received any of that money, but I can't use any of that
[3:57] money. And if I was to be charged and you guys were to charge me any amount
[4:04] over that for that money, then you would be in trouble with state board of
[4:09] accounts because that is a government entity and it's a government um
[4:14] basically it's it's government document. So it has to go to you guys and it has
[4:21] to go to tear down the buildings. If you guys do not wish to to lose that, I've
[4:29] got it here on Billy's recording of what she told me. So, if you guys choose to
[4:35] uh reapply for that and ask that that money be used for something different,
[4:40] you can do that. But I cannot be charged more because you guys are going to was
[4:47] wanting to think that I was going to be getting this grant because I can't use
[4:51] that. Oh. So
[4:57] that's what
[5:00] who >> Susan and she works right under Jerry
[5:04] Bridges.
[5:07] » I don't but what you're saying is the city would get that money. You would
[5:12] have zippity dozero access to it. >> Exactly. I just wanted to the city is
[5:18] the only one that can take that money and it has to be used for tearing down
[5:23] the buildings only. It cannot be used to revitalize the
[5:28] which we got told something completely different. So on our end we would have
[5:32] to >> yeah
[5:35] her name is Susan Drinket.
[5:43] That
[6:24] and she's the one that oversees. She basically she's she's like the police
[6:28] that comes in to make sure you've done what you've done with that money.
[6:32] » Correct. >> So that's what that is. So, um,
[6:36] you know, and I know that, um, I mean, I've been told through the grave
[6:42] vine that some people were upset that I felt like I was lowballing the town to
[6:48] buy those buildings. Um, I don't I don't feel that way. Um, not at all. And I'm
[6:54] sorry you guys feel that way. And I apologize for my demeanor last month,
[7:01] but or the last week ago, but it was just kind of like a cutthroat situation.
[7:06] That's what I felt like. And um so and I do know that you guys said you
[7:12] had $4,687 in attorney fees. I'd like to have uh
[7:16] receipts proving that that was used for those buildings and not for something
[7:21] else. if I'm gonna have to help split this cost on these attorney fees, which
[7:25] I shouldn't, but so that's kind of where I'm at. I mean, I I offered 10,000 for
[7:32] those.
[7:35] And uh Pat's building was appraised at 45.
[7:39] I offered you three for that because I don't know what I'm getting into. I
[7:43] don't know if I can save it. Video building, it was appraised at
[7:47] three. I offered you three. PK building was appraised at 34. I
[7:53] offered you three. Storage building was appraised at 18 and I offered you a
[7:59] thousand because I got to take that. So that came out to 10,000.
[8:04] And then like I said from what telling me on these attorney keys I don't know
[8:13] but I do know that you can't and Chad was often obviously incorrect
[8:20] on that um because after you know looking into
[8:25] it and doing some research but no you can't and it has to be a government
[8:29] entity that you can use that grant. it. I I couldn't personally go get that
[8:33] grade >> unless I went through the main street
[8:36] organization. And I'm not going I'm not going through the main street
[8:39] organization. It's just me person
[8:56] is I guess. Um [clears throat] one being then did eight then half. So it wasn't
[9:04] that >> what was the minimum bid
[9:07] would be 22 was it? >> Yeah
[9:09] » 22
[9:14] infrastructure purpose. I'm sorry. Say what?
[9:17] » Did they say anything about using it for infrastructure purp?
[9:38] » Yes.
[9:42] » 13,300 for bid out of 10.
[9:46] I think so. Down. You're going to have four lots,
[9:52] empty lots worth less than $10,000. >> I don't think
[10:00] » Yeah, the buildings build. >> There's no value in the building.
[10:04] » It's probably hurting it more than it's helping it. If I'm being honest,
[10:07] » it's their liability. >> Yeah.
[10:10] » And I mean, and this was a lastditch effort by you, D, to try and save
[10:14] building. So, >> I just tried to save our history for
[10:17] downtown. >> That's where I'm at.
[10:22] » Once your street skate's gone, it's gone.
[10:28] » It's like I'm reading this document that we have in front of us. Right.
[10:32] We have to take the appraised value. If we go the next step, we have to take
[10:39] 13. We can't take anything less than the appraised value. Correct.
[10:59] three. I'll have you get 133 then.
[11:08] provide public.
[11:12] One is you have to pass resolution or otherwise create a record explaining why
[11:17] the original doesn't
[11:34] Essentially,
[11:40] they're giving members of the public chance to do something like maybe making
[11:45] an offer themselves if because they they didn't know.
[11:55] And it's just it's just saying you can't make a secret. If assuming no one does
[12:00] then you go on to the next step which is to pass a res pass a resolution
[12:12] does you have to consider it
[12:18] an art
[12:20] I'm just like what 78,000.
[12:26] So then to the town tax
[12:39] » seven >> seven
[12:41] » that was for attorney fees that we don't know exactly.
[12:45] » Some of it was attorney fees not all. Some of it was back tax was ra
[12:49] » and all that will come back. You guys will have to get all that back. I
[12:52] remember you saying that last time >> the appraisal
[12:55] » appraisal I'm sorry that was the appraisal
[13:01] » the appraisal fees
[13:10] » uh the appraisal was 3,200
[13:23] Yeah, >> you got four
[13:38] like Kyle was saying, you would tear him down. you're going to lose that money
[13:43] and your taxpayers of the taxes and the attorney fees.
[13:49] You sell it and we don't charge that to the seller. You're going to lose
[13:56] the game. You don't know what you're going to sell for that cost. We have we
[14:02] have to get to 133. We got to get 133. I'm saying it could be higher. It could
[14:06] be less cost.
[14:17] a shame. It's embarrassing to say from Summit.
[14:21] What the Handy Andy get to
[14:26] that building gets tore down then the whole place should be
[14:33] more
[14:45] deemed the building on the far end as unsafe. So that wasn't that wasn't us.
[14:50] that was building commissioner and that's what started the whole process.
[14:52] So then we looked at tearing down the building the um excuse me the storage
[14:57] building the far end the bricks were falling off of we had to we had to rope
[15:01] it off and so that's what started then it was we got um an amount to tear down
[15:08] one building which ended up being just as cheap as you tear down all four which
[15:11] are all not good buildings and they're just not so
[15:15] I'd like to see why the hand like who said who's the building county
[15:22] » well RD was our inspection and he was the one that deemed it as unsafe.
[15:26] » How did this >> that come from further? There was in
[15:30] other inspections done in state level. >> Yeah. You'll never see that again.
[15:34] You'll never see the break point. This place kind of look like a dollar. That's
[15:36] why maybe that should have been done 30 years ago, 20 years ago. If you're going
[15:40] around trying to say I mean I'm not trying to be mean or rude. I'm just
[15:43] saying like this is kind of dumpy art here. You guys need to do something with
[15:47] this. And this is the cars were dealt with. I I don't make the meeting.
[15:52] » This was all they missed the meeting. Circle K was here.
[15:58] Their district and western managers were here and they they said the building was
[16:05] unsafe and needed to come down. Circle case
[16:08] » in their own not here. >> I didn't know that.
[16:11] » Circle come to the meeting. There was like
[16:15] three people.
[16:19] Yeah, but they circles head said it needs to come down and they were going
[16:23] to tear it down and build a new building and they changed their mind.
[16:26] » What are we getting for our taxes out there? I took seventh street
[16:32] on the way here. You can't even hardly walk on what's going on
[16:39] in this part of the meeting. We'll move on. We're on one subject right now.
[16:44] » All right. text must decision as we pay off 133
[16:56] tax whatever look at it. So I guess we
[17:04] go plan a which is fair and balance. >> We need you to make a motion. Is that
[17:10] what we need to do at the Is that what you're
[17:13] » I'm Okay. Then I make a motion that we accept the offer of 13,300.
[17:20] Um
[17:26] the attorney fees and the appraisal fee.
[17:32] » I mean or take off the extra fees that we were talking about.
[17:37] You just said >> that's appraisal. The other fees was the
[17:42] tax fees which we were getting back which we said we would take off which
[17:45] makes sense. >> Make sure those come up. Yes. Um,
[17:49] but the appraisal fee is what we incurred because we were sell
[17:56] » I think the best thing to just say you're go accept the 133
[18:04] » that she offered. Yes. >> My
[18:08] that is my motion. So on the floor right now
[18:13] I'll second.
[18:27] So, and we can still ain't done with it yet.
[18:32] The appraisal fees is the only thing that really is incred
[18:46] the appraisal fees. >> What's that?
[18:48] » Can we split the appraisal piece? >> Yeah, we have some clarification.
[18:54] » What was your vote on that? >> Nay.
[18:56] » Yours is okay. Failed.
[19:05] » What's What's the total you're thinking? >> Well, I mean total of the appraisal fees
[19:10] and what we have to accept 65. I was just trying to make somewhere
[19:14] between 13 and 16,000.
[19:19] I mean, we would have incurred the appraisal fees
[19:22] the interest of selling, >> right? You still have to do that anyway
[19:26] if you go to sell it now.
[19:29] » Well, that's true, too. But you're still going to have to raise the lots. That's
[19:33] » fine. I mean, and we can do that if we decide we're going to sell them. But
[19:36] either way, I
[19:38] » mean, yeah, I'll split the appraisal fees. Okay.
[19:41] » I'll do that.
[19:48] The whole debate last.
[20:20] Do you want this? >> Saved.
[20:31] » I'll do 149. That's all I'm going to go though.
[20:36] I got have a lot of money. just tearing tearing down the storage unit. And I
[20:41] don't know what's per
[21:05] second that again.
[21:24] This is
[21:28] a second.
[21:45] Yeah, of just kind of getting in the middle of the road here. I'll
[21:50] go for it back 149.
[22:00] » That was three in favor and two against. I'm just making I can't hear so well.
[22:07] » Sorry, we got a big air conditioning back here. Make noises. Sorry.
[22:15] » But we could do this now. You need the task motion or something on the record
[22:22] to explain why
[22:26] soul
[23:05] reasonable And it's great.
[23:47] motion. What we just did
[23:54] essentially explain why
[24:04] here's my
[24:12] Motion carried in favor for the 149. We're accepting
[24:18] the 149 because the minimum bid 22 was not made. Uh 149
[24:24] was
[24:28] » you want to explain why glassing. So, we didn't accept the 22 because it didn't
[24:33] come in. Um, the price that I guess got offered didn't meet the appraised value.
[24:56] Okay. All in favor?
[25:04] LC
[25:14] just
[25:24] motion to send out notice uh for a two week
[25:51] Okay. You need to
[25:59] I know you said something about Robin. What' you say about Robin?
[26:02] » Please. They got approved. They got >> approved.
[26:18] Thank you.
[26:29] They said you will just you you could still receive that money but you just
[26:34] need to delegate it to a different project.
[26:51] stated it doesn't. Yeah, what she told her,
[26:55] » right?
[27:31] She gets
[27:43] your plan.
[28:24] on you guys. I I'm ready to, you know, like I said, I got to get with my
[28:27] contractor, but I mean, as far as like getting that, you know, storage building
[28:31] down, I just hope that you guys aren't going to be like, "Okay, well, you got
[28:35] to get it down in like 10 days because you guys have had it you guys have been
[28:38] messing with it down for two years." And I and I'm I'm a person to get stuff
[28:42] done. I mean, I'm I'm that way. >> When we first started talking, it was 30
[28:46] days was what we were, >> right? And I plan on trying to meet that
[28:48] goal. >> Okay.
[28:49] » Yeah. >> Yep. I just want to try to make sure I
[28:52] can save some of the rafters that oversee that um ceiling over there on
[28:59] that for like or whatever for seating for them.
[29:20] resolution
[29:29] speed limit at >> I I didn't know if you want to pass that
[29:34] tonight. Do you know what point? I know originally it was 1550, but I going to
[29:39] change. We left it blank so that we could write in wherever you decided
[29:44] wanted. >> Yeah, I mean it was Mark. Mark
[29:53] » so I think we we we came up spot that was
[29:56] running around pond area.
[30:06] It was right between RNR and center.
[30:21] » Okay. >> You guys need anything else?
[30:24] » No, you're good.
[30:30] » That's already been passed, right? >> I thought we did. Yeah, but we were
[30:33] waiting on the exact coordinates because there was a hangup of where exactly we
[30:36] were going to put the sign. >> So that's why you and Richard went out
[30:39] there and mapping it out. And so we just to verbage for the ordinance. Yeah, the
[30:45] ordinance pass. It's just verbiage to put it in there so that we
[30:50] » pass it
[30:55] speed
[31:00] out and coming in. Well, they voted to change it. You voted to change it.
[31:03] » Yeah, they voted to change it to 1550. >> So,
[31:11] from 55 to 30
[31:17] » that wasn't nothing was done for >> discussing the sign
[31:22] back to 1550. So, it's not over the 30. That's
[31:29] going to like
[31:43] » way over here on a turn.
[31:54] I think why they placed it. Yes.
[31:59] » So semi driver would be clearly able to see where they
[32:05] already put the signs up.
[32:11] » We post the 40s to the 30s. >> Yeah, we took the 40 off. Put 30 on.
[32:17] That's what I thought. That's what I thought we wanted.
[32:21] Okay. >> Yeah, that's what we Okay, they're done
[32:24] then.
[32:30] We have polls discuss
[32:39] » going north.
[32:52] » That's that's on count. Yeah, right. >> And that's and that's all the way around
[32:58] » after you pass 1550, every intersection you pass that's unmarked becomes an
[33:02] unposted speed limit which then by state it's rural it's 55 mph.
[33:09] It'll be good once you pass 1550 because it's unposted.
[33:14] » You get to the post on the code. Then you have to follow that one. If it is
[33:17] posted, but every intersection has to be posted or
[33:26] not posted. Then you got urban roll.
[33:35] » I'm I'm hearing what you said, right? You changed the 40 that was before
[33:38] Dollar General when you're leaving town to a 30, right?
[33:41] » Yes. We changed both north and southbounding
[33:48] 40 signs that was there. We just took the 40 off at the 30 because I wasn't
[33:52] aware we were going to which I'm fine with. We can do it. Not a big deal.
[34:01] » One post 13 just after the RNR that way. 40 miles
[34:07] hour.
[34:12] » I wasn't part of that. So, >> you tell me where you want it. We'll put
[34:15] it in the ground and make it happen.
[34:19] » Go 55 40. >> I need to change that.
[34:33] First,
[34:40] not a suggestion. >> A suggestion. That's not a It's yellow.
[34:44] It's not a law. It's a suggestion.
[35:02] Next up is the trash ordinance.
[35:10] And the motion to number the ordinance 2026-7 that it shall be placed on the
[35:14] first reading by title only. And this is an ordinance admitting trash to the
[35:18] council.
[35:28] motion. >> I second that.
[35:34] » All in favor? >> I
[35:42] need a motion to read Hornets in its entirety by title only.
[36:17] 2026-7 has been duly passed and adopted.
[36:38] All right.
[36:51] The academy goes, um, things like that.
[36:57] uh he's got one more chance to do it. He actually got confused on the course.
[37:03] It's a brand new course. It's the first academy that they've ran this course and
[37:09] there's not a whole bunch of literature out there on on what they're doing. I
[37:12] didn't know at the time because he got confused on the course and went the
[37:16] wrong way or so. Anyways, they're going to let him go back down and try it
[37:19] again. >> Um
[37:22] » is this the precourse course? >> Yeah. So he's not passing the pre
[37:26] » well there there's only one precourse and
[37:30] » um yeah so he did not pass the pre to get in. So
[37:36] again this is the first time that they've
[37:40] done this new course. They have they had a course
[37:45] for probably 25 years and this was the first academy that they changed to the
[37:50] new. So going back
[37:56] uh they haven't rescheduled his test date yet. Try that.
[38:02] Um vehicles uh and shape we got with
[38:11] back out to
[38:16] reached out to me and I've not gotten anything back on rear yet on the tires.
[38:23] Um the
[38:28] cage, the evidence cage, we have it fabricated, but we've not had time to
[38:33] come in here and do it with everything that's been going
[38:41] on for the academy and then hired. We were trying to get them trained up
[38:46] before the 4th of July so we could we did square in Daryl Hunter.
[38:54] Most of you probably know Daryl Marshall from Arrest us.
[39:01] He fired and then decided he would help us out for the fourth. Then when he got
[39:06] out here, he was like, you know, I wouldn't mind going ahead and helping
[39:09] you guys guys out permanently. So we swore him in.
[39:17] We did good with Hellbreak part time.
[39:22] Apologize. I just rolled in from the legs. I wasn't even didn't think we were
[39:26] even going to make the meeting. There's not a whole lot on here. It's
[39:31] going through my mind. Um
[39:38] guys, sure the fourth rearranged for this coming weekend, this coming
[39:42] Saturday. Uh we had everything set up, ready to go for last weekend.
[39:48] Golf carts were great. Thank you. Uh serve two now for this coming weekend.
[39:56] Okay. Because we're not going to have quite as many people able to help out
[39:58] this weekend, but we'll be okay. and has
[40:04] I don't know I guess are we expecting the same kind of crowd
[40:08] like how how do you >> I heard this is the first time it's been
[40:11] cancelled >> as far as I know
[40:13] » that's what I was going to ask yeah ask >> how I mean I've lived here all my life
[40:20] and I've never known fireworks to be host
[40:24] » I've been thinking about you guys trying to figure out how do you go in not I
[40:27] mean >> I don't know what
[40:28] » it could be really busy it could be really not is
[40:31] » I think it's more because everybody in the county is already having the
[40:35] fireworks >> possibility
[40:38] else. >> Yeah.
[40:42] » You are getting two golf carts instead of the bors. That was
[40:46] » Well, we had three for the first first weekend, but we've got a few less people
[40:50] able to make it this weekend. Um so we just retain two for this coming weekend.
[41:10] I do want to let you know that we >> had to talk and we are going to allow
[41:16] people for extra parking to park at the big ball.
[41:20] » Just let you know if you've noticed. >> Yeah, they kind of park where they want
[41:24] right now. There's not a whole >> No. Yeah. [laughter]
[41:27] » Uh, one thing we we we did do this time, >> we anybody putting up, you know, saving
[41:33] their areas, >> they had rope, wire or cable put up,
[41:38] » we took it down, right? >> Because somebody could come zipping
[41:40] through there at night on an ebike or something and smack that stuff and get
[41:45] injured. But we did go ahead and take our police tape, the ones we took down,
[41:48] and put it up for them to save their area. Still,
[41:52] » just call you up. We're going to go down there. That's not what
[41:55] I mean. They weren't out there, so I didn't want to just take it down and
[41:58] take their stuff down. So, we put police tape up to save their area, but uh
[42:03] » we probably will have to do something about that some point.
[42:11] » Maybe that's a good note. >> It would be a reasonable amount of space
[42:17] because we've got people taping off. >> Oh, I know.
[42:22] I mean, >> that's what we were talking about the
[42:25] other day, right? Because if somebody rolls up there and gets in one of those
[42:28] spots, there ain't nothing we can do about that's probably just because you
[42:32] put a tape out doesn't mean >> Yeah.
[42:37] » Start selling squares to make [laughter]
[42:42] » certainly would. But then somebody go
[43:02] continue doing the mowing. Um, sprayed weeds again for the third time
[43:12] back to school. Got that completed. Question send Brendan in September.
[43:19] Why? Uh we had two call outs in June for uh two different pits that failed. One
[43:25] was his, another was on the other side of town. Um what's happened is the 3-in
[43:31] couplings, the original product that come with those. It's a thin rubber
[43:35] gasket and they just over time suck in. They fail. It's not good. So we ordered
[43:41] 40 uh 3-in fern co. We've been replacing obviously replace the ones that failed.
[43:47] And we we've been going through on Thursdays mostly or when we have time um
[43:52] just every pit and eventually we will replace every pit and we'll get away
[43:56] from using the original product in school. I spoke with them and the guy
[44:03] that's our local area.
[44:09] We raised our vacuum out at the plant. It was not set properly.
[44:13] airvag gave us the parameters since we've ran
[44:17] it up or two fails. We expect to see a few
[44:21] more fails because the stuff's aging. Um, but we're going to get better
[44:27] service running
[44:32] 18 in of vacuum down to 13, which was causing us a low back alarm quite a bit
[44:36] where you bring getting a bunch of phone calls.
[44:42] So, you're supposed to be running 20 inches of vacuum down to 16 in.
[44:50] Yeah. Well, it's a good deal.
[44:55] Three compartment inside would have been crack seal and crack sealed today
[45:00] benches scraped and painted and post on
[45:08] branches throughout all the streets.
[45:13] capacity
[45:16] since spreading water side for mosquitoes. We have not sprayed yet a
[45:21] big increase
[45:26] that taken care of tires anything.
[45:39] If anybody in the public has them >> mosquito issue, let us know. We'll
[45:43] definitely try to come by.
[45:59] » Change
[46:06] oil on both trucks in the last week. If that made this game
[46:13] still at both places
[46:24] 321 South Clinton also had a loop done
[46:31] street
[46:35] I want to thank fair they come out with their jet truck. This is the second time
[46:38] we've had they've come out no questions. Um it saved us a lot of headache, a lot
[46:44] of time backs.
[46:48] So I bud Bush and L
[46:55] and just fix
[47:05] just the one call probably cost $400.
[47:16] Um, you clean the bush air back pumps and
[47:21] the wastewater station, took them apart, did the screens, put them back together.
[47:30] supposed to be here this week.
[47:53] Um did have a sewage pump fail. The gear drive failed. We doing daily checks down
[47:59] there. Excuse me. Went down. Went down there. Sewage pump one failed. Shaft
[48:05] sheared off. The G connects the pump to the boat
[48:11] designed to shear off when something happens. It's just olden
[48:34] come out. the wastewater fund all put in. We have
[48:38] an issue with one
[48:43] fix.
[48:48] Couple things I missed.
[49:00] Our mission sending the paradise school in September with the date to be
[49:03] determined. such.
[49:14] » Yeah. So, they went to Arab school last year. Brendon only went for two days.
[49:34] know about this on these pumps. I
[49:44] doing great. We keep working obviously well together.
[49:50] Thank you.
[50:06] things change. They have new products. I wouldn't say we should be going every
[50:11] three years. Everybody sends their own guys up every 3 to five. Makes them go
[50:15] back to school. It's probably something. It's just they change products. say new
[50:20] stuff is better for our system. Your system ages, you know, there's going to
[50:25] be things they might worry
[50:51] motion.
[51:07] I'm just stay
[51:12] um last thing I got. I need to purchase
[51:18] PC pumps. So they come out original you guys $943
[51:24] to the lift station so we can run our motors out there not straight 60 Hz that
[51:30] they'll be sell from 30 to 60 additional part
[51:37] of that it's going to cost us an additional 500
[51:41] to get this proper.
[51:44] Are those are those varying frequency drives?
[51:47] » Yes. >> 260, but it doesn't have to. It's not
[51:52] either or.
[51:55] » It'll save money in the long run. It's easier on the pumps. We're gonna
[51:59] eventually I'm going to probably come at you guys with the backstage pumps and do
[52:02] the same thing because it's just >> Yeah. Well, I think it might have been
[52:08] talked about.
[52:33] motion. I'll make a motion to approve $1,493 for
[52:40] DBC.
[52:48] That's all I got. I I have one.
[52:53] » Can I map to talk to you about this?
[53:01] » Yeah.
[53:09] This came in today. I spoke with uh
[53:14] Consulting Group about the Pizza King parking lot. I guess new funds just got
[53:19] approved groundwater project that we are involved
[53:23] with on this. What's going on with that? I
[53:26] know it's been an ongoing thing for quite some time. Um so they're going to
[53:30] be coming tentatively. I believe he said August 10th.
[53:35] My highlighted area is to put new volume
[53:44] talk of selling selling the parking lot for the parking lot.
[53:50] Let these guys come in and do what they do.
[53:53] » Yeah, it's all great money. The guy told me I have his email. Um I just got it
[53:58] when I was put leaving out putting this together.
[54:01] off. You guys have
[54:06] contact.
[54:12] » Yeah. And Chad's usually the one that kind of
[54:19] shoot
[54:24] he was asking about the really question he had for us was in front of this
[54:49] Thank you. Thank you. So I don't really think much are
[54:55] Thank you. Um and then I have I do have one question.
[55:00] What what do you guys want to do with the American flags? Obviously
[55:05] this weekend you want to leave them up for the summer
[55:10] want to take them down at a certain date certain date take them down the path.
[55:15] Um I give you a recommendation in my opinion
[55:20] pretty expensive. We spent $1,200 I think was this last time and that was
[55:25] probably our flag.
[55:34] I would recommend bringing them down after this weekend. We'll put them back.
[55:51] I think you have it figured out.
[55:59] » Dollar General. >> Yep. I went down there. Um
[56:10] the general man was put in. I put outside. They mowed obviously a little
[56:15] part of it. They explained to her, "Hey, this is all of y'all's property.
[56:20] We'll get her this week. I'm going to follow up with him next week. We'll find
[56:26] you is a property. So, >> so the guy that was the developer on
[56:30] this, we'll have his name on it. >> You have it, his phone number.
[56:35] » Yeah, he all he does is lease the Dollar General. So, that's who we need to be
[56:38] contact. >> Correct. I told her it's supposed to be
[56:41] fairly less.
[56:52] » He was the one that said contact me. This was a big concern when they were
[56:56] coming into town. It was going to be getting mowed and he said and then said
[57:00] if it's not getting mode contact me. So that's
[57:03] » probably to save you some headache of >> phone calling phone calling everybody
[57:07] and trying to phone call everybody. I just go straight to
[57:19] » I was just want to make sure on that. So
[57:23] the wood the stand.
[57:27] » Yes. You're okay if someone gets a piece of wood or anything?
[57:31] » First, first
[57:35] guy truck with a bunch of
[57:41] » I've had multiple people ask. I told every one of them, you know,
[57:45] » how big these are? >> There's manageable all the way up.
[57:51] I mean, for me, I got liability issues. Someone rolls a log on their leg or
[57:56] that's I'm sorry. I just put my mind that is
[58:02] that a problem.
[58:16] » I really don't think they permission.
[58:21] » Well, they're trespassers. Okay. No, if they give information, if they go
[58:28] down
[58:32] advertising what is available, are they just stealing it?
[58:36] » Right. So, they're trespassers.
[58:41] » They're taking they have a right to be in the park.
[58:45] Correct. Right. >> So, they're they're invitees. So, they
[58:48] so you have to I guess the question is they they go on town property, right?
[58:53] pick up a piece of wood and something happens. They roll a piece of wood on
[58:57] their leg or something crazy happens. >> I think they would have exceeded their
[59:02] invitation. >> Are we good?
[59:03] » Okay. Yeah, that's all. >> That doesn't mean you're totally immune,
[59:06] but if anybody sue anybody down there, we'll sue
[59:11] » you.
[59:23] Some do not guarantee, >> but some do. If they exceed that license
[59:29] or invitation, which this is what that sounds like, then they're only owed a
[59:35] duty to be protected from intentional injury. Can't shoot them necessarily.
[59:40] But yeah, pretty much
[1:00:06] I saw somebody down. Talk to them. They're starting again tomorrow morning.
[1:00:13] Start tearing down again. So they might have to block the road.
[1:00:21] He doesn't know if he's going to start in the front or the back or he's going
[1:00:24] to start tearing down. >> Yeah.
[1:00:27] But they are going to allow traffic flow.
[1:00:31] Have a crew coming in tomorrow and starting. They said he didn't know how
[1:00:34] long it's going to take.
[1:00:45] All right.
[1:01:07] Not sure he's going to do it this week. Take your picture next toart,
[1:01:13] post it on maybe Facebook page, potentially get a free niche. [laughter]
[1:01:20] They know anything about this work and they're like, "Why did you take a
[1:01:23] picture of the golf?"
[1:01:29] Yeah, for sure. >> You guys want to do it, passerformance
[1:01:36] LLC is his Facebook page and there's sticker on
[1:01:43] the sticker on side. >> Everybody should stop the police take
[1:01:46] pictures. [laughter]
[1:01:51] » Absolutely. >> He out of Union City.
[1:01:54] » What's that? >> Union City.
[1:01:56] » Union City.
[1:02:09] I got a bunch of real quick. Oh, sorry.
[1:02:13] » Um, don't forget this weekend is the farmers market. Um,
[1:02:30] did let people know that um we do end at 1:00 because we do have
[1:02:36] some vendors um and I do have a food truck coming in
[1:02:41] since um it
[1:02:47] not part of the fireworks. I did tell them that we do end at one o'clock and I
[1:02:51] said if they wanted to stay after the one o'clock they would have to get in
[1:02:54] contact with the fire department because that's not through me. No, it's just I
[1:03:00] wouldn't allow them to do that. Um that was with the food truck.
[1:03:05] Um we had a I had the parade and I had 22 entries.
[1:03:13] Um the streets were lined. It was wonderful. I was very excited. Um, we
[1:03:18] had four I had four winners. The float went to uh Kelly's Crazy Deals. Um, the
[1:03:26] old car and it was a truck. It was Dan Newbie.
[1:03:31] The golf cart um went to Somerville Garden Club and the kids bike was Jacob
[1:03:39] Singer. Jacob Senior Jr. So, I got with most of them to give that prize. I have
[1:03:45] one more prize to give away on that. Um, so really excited about that. I'm
[1:03:54] thinking that next year we can get it later.
[1:04:00] Like I said, we are going to open the ballpark up for parking. So
[1:04:05] extra person here
[1:04:19] forget upcoming events would be we have 350 coming October
[1:04:34] October Bible and then I'm still going to work on trying to get
[1:04:39] something else another event planned.
[1:04:53] Oh yes it will >> set date time on
[1:05:02] » that date and time >> that time that they have to leave does
[1:05:05] the permit that we give out say a time on
[1:05:09] » the issues >> we don't
[1:05:14] through the food >> it's just saying they're
[1:05:19] » I don't do that because I they're has come and I just let them know that
[1:05:24] » or you said you did so that's why I was asking
[1:05:26] » they're either going to have an annual permit or they will have a one day
[1:05:30] permit. >> Yes.
[1:05:31] » Yes. But the reason I'm asking is because several people were wanting to
[1:05:35] set up little things in their yards and they were told by several people they
[1:05:38] couldn't do it >> and we discussed that in one of the
[1:05:41] meetings a while back if it's a little like a tomato stand or whatever they're
[1:05:46] allowed to do it. Some of these people were told they couldn't. So if we have a
[1:05:50] permit, if we have a food truck set up out there, I can see me getting question
[1:05:54] on why we can do it, they can't do it, and so on.
[1:05:57] » Right. The the food trucks have to have >> special event permit
[1:06:04] » through the county and they have to have that in
[1:06:09] it's by county, I think. Pretty sure on that. And the other people, if they're
[1:06:13] selling food at their house or whatever they're doing, they have to have the I
[1:06:18] think it's called food safety certification.
[1:06:21] » You got to have a commercial history. >> Yeah.
[1:06:24] » Well, at one point, like he was talking about a lemonade stand or a fruit stand.
[1:06:29] They don't necessarily need anything. >> You're not suing cooked food.
[1:06:35] » Exactly. >> Yeah. We had private property people,
[1:06:40] the church and so on that had stuff set up that sold certain things by certain
[1:06:46] people and I was asked about it and you don't need a I believe you don't need a
[1:06:51] business license for selling it off your own.
[1:06:54] » That's what I'm getting. Yeah. And and the health thing.
[1:06:59] » Yeah. Yeah, >> but like if they had the if they're at a
[1:07:02] farmers market, that's different than the
[1:07:07] » But they still have to have their fruits certificate certification.
[1:07:13] » Yeah, >> they can because they show me that and
[1:07:17] then they can have their stuff there.
[1:07:23] » She has to go if it's on town property, >> right?
[1:07:26] on public property. If somebody's serving something,
[1:07:33] public property, private property,
[1:07:39] it seems to me, I'm sorry, I wasn't prepared for this, but I think that what
[1:07:43] I found out last time when I checked was that there are
[1:07:48] there are there's a statute that allows you to do some things that aren't
[1:07:52] strictly speaking. fruits, vegetables growing on your property, but you've got
[1:07:58] like canned goods, jellies, jams, but you've got to label it.
[1:08:04] » Yeah,
[1:08:08] » there are restrictions, but they're not You don't need to pull go through and
[1:08:11] get
[1:08:14] » it off your private property. Probably not.
[1:08:22] That's my farmers market time.
[1:08:26] » The concern is people are taking prepared food to farmers markets. Is
[1:08:30] that it? >> No, he's saying that like people are
[1:08:34] saying it's the fireworks and they know there a bunch of people here and for
[1:08:38] instance the say the fire department say no we have our trucks that we want. We
[1:08:44] don't need any more trucks and they'll say well I just know Joe Blow so I'll
[1:08:48] just set up in their yard or something. permit. My question is if they've got a
[1:08:52] permit and there's no time that they have to leave, they paid Madison County
[1:08:57] for a permit to be here and if they want to be here all day as long as they're
[1:09:01] not on >> the fire department's property,
[1:09:03] » right? Yeah. >> They can be on town property with your
[1:09:06] all's approval. >> Perfect. Yeah.
[1:09:08] » Yeah. bedroom.
[1:09:19] » I think it has >> I'm experiencing that myself with the
[1:09:23] historical society as we speak. >> Um they've invited other food vendors
[1:09:30] from outside of the town instead of supporting the people in the town.
[1:09:37] So I I understand that.
[1:09:46] But yeah, the 1:00 is just because that's just what time
[1:09:50] » if they wanted to. There's nothing I can do about it.
[1:09:53] » If they want to stay
[1:09:57] food truck show up at the ball field, >> they have to have a permit to be on
[1:10:02] » public property.
[1:10:06] Yeah, they're a mask coming permit.
[1:10:10] » Yeah,
[1:10:15] » completely after the farmers. >> Yeah.
[1:10:18] » Oh, >> I know a lot.
[1:10:34] just saying >> I just if it's on
[1:10:39] our property they would don't we require a permit of some sort to allow them to
[1:10:43] do it on >> so isn't it kind of the same as the door
[1:10:46] to door thing because don't we tell people that are going door to door they
[1:10:48] got to have a permit to be in town solicit we say we don't allow solicitors
[1:10:54] that fall under the same that's the only question I
[1:10:58] » because if not all this comes up >> yeah no no I get I get where you're
[1:11:20] I can see what he's saying. And then everybody comes up to the ball field and
[1:11:24] says, "Oh, I've got a farm. I've got like you say 20 food trucks show up.
[1:11:31] That's a problem. >> I mean, I don't think there's anything
[1:11:34] that could beat you regulating
[1:11:47] space for this many don't want to crowd that. But I think question is do do we
[1:11:52] have anything and I'm sorry that I I don't know that we have anything in our
[1:11:55] town bylaws ordinance >> because we do from doortodoor sales.
[1:12:00] Right. Yeah. Right. So what is the difference between that and someone
[1:12:03] coming in and setting up a business is that way you're getting that
[1:12:06] » yeah just for a day. I have to have some type of right like like you said there
[1:12:11] could be 30 vendors just show up from Indianapolis. They can't we got to have
[1:12:15] some idea who's coming in and coming. Well, then my thinking is all the people
[1:12:19] that we shoe out of here because they're going door to door, you know, the roof
[1:12:21] companies do,
[1:12:24] » right? >> So, yeah. So, we got to have some sort
[1:12:26] of >> Well, I mean,
[1:12:30] I don't have my book or I don't I couldn't think of it exactly
[1:12:37] address, but I I just think you have the inherent power to control how the land
[1:12:42] is used. As long as you're not discriminated with
[1:12:46] say first come first serve or you have to apply have to pay this nominal fee or
[1:12:51] whatever >> I don't think you're obligated to let
[1:13:04] that >> as far as door thing I don't think
[1:13:07] that's on the same notific
[1:13:18] You guys can no point anybody you want to
[1:13:23] regulate that. You just it can't be willy-nilly. It's a matter. It's the
[1:13:27] same as the concerts of the park in Fairmont. The lines the council
[1:13:32] appointed the Lions Club to manage the food trucks. So they get the say who's
[1:13:37] there on that day and there's nobody showing up at the park without the say
[1:13:40] of the Lions Club. >> So she can have the say because she's
[1:13:44] having her >> she's having her thing one she has to
[1:13:48] say nobody can come in there because it's public property.
[1:13:50] » Absolutely. >> I get it's always been a courtesy of the
[1:13:54] town and that way before I even came on board. Yeah. It's always been understood
[1:13:58] that the fourth belongs kind of to the township and they do the fire department
[1:14:02] stuff because they're raising money for fireworks for the next year and they're
[1:14:05] doing Yeah. >> And so as a courtesy I think it's been
[1:14:07] before the council just always stayed out of it.
[1:14:09] » Yeah. >> In the town. So now I mean now the
[1:14:12] question down there which is fine. You can just
[1:14:16] say hey like we're >> going to make a person ahead.
[1:14:21] » You have to go through them so that you can verify that they have their
[1:14:25] somebody's got to verify they have their permit. They just can't show up. Oh,
[1:14:28] yeah. Yeah. >> So, that's I mean, the question is, do
[1:14:30] you want
[1:14:39] » It's just a matter of you want to step up.
[1:14:42] » My opinion is no. I mean, if you were asking me what I think, no. cuz I the
[1:14:49] lady asked me today and I knew had a feeling what this lady was doing because
[1:14:54] I don't know if she's already talked to the fire department or what and been
[1:14:58] told that we don't want anymore. We got our vendors that we want and we already
[1:15:03] know what they're doing. And so, but I said, "You're welcome to
[1:15:08] set up from 9 to 1 at our at our farmers market and have your food truck." And
[1:15:14] she's like, "Absolutely." She'll pay her $20 and they'll be excited.
[1:15:24] » Tell her to shut down. She can stay there all day. That's what he's doing.
[1:15:30] » Call 50 food trucks. Have 50. >> You can stop it right now and just make
[1:15:33] a motion. We're not going to allow food trucks Saturday after 1:00 in public
[1:15:37] property. You can fix that right now. >> They're they're I think they're No,
[1:15:42] they're pretty nice. I don't think I've never had any problems with nobody.
[1:15:46] Never.
[1:15:51] » I mean, if I had >> Everybody's nice till they're told no.
[1:15:59] » Nice. >> A legality way to remove them.
[1:16:04] » That's not enough for me to make them leave.
[1:16:08] » Like he said, >> I'm going to make a motion. Saturday,
[1:16:12] July the 8th at the
[1:16:19] » July 11th.
[1:16:24] Food trucks at the Summit Bowl softball diamond old softball diamond are allowed
[1:16:31] from 9 to 1:00. anything up for that is not on
[1:16:38] » the double makes
[1:16:43] not under the
[1:16:50] » be during a farmers market time is what I'm
[1:16:54] saying they have not checked with the I think you're getting the farmers
[1:17:00] market isolated
[1:17:05] Yes. >> What to do about that? That's what
[1:17:08] that's what we need to do about
[1:17:20] let's say let's say the 4th of July market
[1:17:34] » it encompasses the whole town just not just not the pounds behind
[1:17:40] » farmers market >> and at this point I do I think it's kind
[1:17:44] of late to do that count >> no these people are already designated
[1:17:48] » this weekend >> talking about going forward
[1:17:51] » forward next year yes absolutely >> anytime someone wants to come in
[1:17:56] » dollar
[1:18:06] Now let me just make a general statement but mostly you discuss so
[1:18:13] I don't it's it's likely that you cannot regulate health and safety issues
[1:18:19] because that field is occupied by the state and the
[1:18:24] but you control of summit bill public say no food trucks I don't think it's
[1:18:33] it's not you can say any food trucks or you can say something in between and set
[1:18:38] standards that are not related to help directly. So I don't see any
[1:18:43] constitutional issue. I don't see any conflict with law issue. I think it's
[1:18:48] strictly what you want to do with your I would say just make sure that they have
[1:18:53] a county permit. It's a food serving place. Make sure
[1:18:57] they're legit. And if they not saying we're checking into their We're not
[1:19:02] going to go inspect their kitchen. >> No. But just say that they have that
[1:19:06] they as long as they've got their permit and they have prior approval of permit
[1:19:10] through the town that controls like he's saying 500 trucks showing up.
[1:19:15] » You can be free. >> Yeah. You can do whatever you want to
[1:19:18] do. >> Yes, you can.
[1:19:19] » But at least we kind of got an idea what's coming, where they're going to be
[1:19:22] set up at, so on if they're on public property.
[1:19:32] That's what I'm saying. Yeah. The whole thing. Well,
[1:19:42] » I couldn't trespass him from there. From from my point of view, I could trespass
[1:19:50] » versus someone, >> right?
[1:19:56] probably mean that the town has to oversee how
[1:20:01] many food trucks the fire department brings in. That's what that's where I
[1:20:04] was going with that.
[1:20:08] Yeah.
[1:20:22] » I'm not saying this food truck particular, but I did want to know.
[1:20:28] » I'm looking into I'll be down there. I'll
[1:20:32] not beg them leave, but take that motion off the table.
[1:20:39] I'm just saying if if you know something could get physical like that, I want to
[1:20:42] know why. >> I agree with you, but I've never had
[1:20:45] issues with any of my if I had something public with anybody or something. I've
[1:20:50] questioned a few things that you think you're going to call me.
[1:20:54] » If you do, you're gonna call me. >> Absolutely. But
[1:20:58] » I just got to know if
[1:21:01] » if I have questions, they they were always very kind to talk.
[1:21:05] All
[1:21:10] right. Anything else? >> I'm sorry. No, my very little
[1:21:18] um most of my work [clears throat]
[1:21:28] that was like discussion tonight also maybe know about
[1:21:35] this. I also care put a fair amount of time at the beginning of the month into
[1:21:40] finishing up the contract. So we have a detailed sales contract may need to be
[1:21:47] modified now but it's it's useful for whenever we
[1:21:52] want to this deal
[1:21:57] what I've been think substance has been
[1:22:03] have the one case um my understanding talking to officer Brooks today is that
[1:22:11] I think you and I talked about this is that he's working on a report to you
[1:22:16] that will possibly enable us to get an order from the court to remove the
[1:22:21] abandoned vehicle that correct without necessarily pursuing the ordinance
[1:22:27] violation itself
[1:22:33] property remaining
[1:22:37] a copy of it. will send you and we are we will decide then whether we have
[1:22:43] enough evidence to pursue the ordinance violation or we just get the vehicle.
[1:22:50] That's where
[1:23:04] public citizens. Anybody have anything? Terry
[1:23:09] things
[1:23:12] I'll talk about 2011 South second. Uh I just want to
[1:23:17] thank you for working with D. I think she she's good for the town
[1:23:23] so much. I know it's divided here, but not to open a can of worms, but I think
[1:23:32] two of those properties were donated to town.
[1:23:36] » You really don't have money. >> Yeah, we still have to do
[1:23:39] » Yeah. I mean, we still had to do >> Well, yeah, but you you took them off
[1:23:42] the tax rules.
[1:23:46] You're losing money on them because they're not on the tax rules. So, at
[1:23:50] least they're getting back on the tax rules.
[1:23:51] » Sure. and and they're going to look so much better for the town, for the people
[1:23:56] coming into town, you know,
[1:24:01] the plus all the way around. And I know you're divided on it, but hey, I think
[1:24:06] it's great to get them back on the tax. So,
[1:24:11] that's really all I got is just thank you for working with D. I think she's
[1:24:15] going to do it for better for the town. Thank Mark
[1:24:21] we'll make constant circles out of department my
[1:24:24] spot. So, go buy a ticket. I'm glad I don't sell Kirby sweepers
[1:24:30] anymore. [laughter]
[1:24:35] » The rest of us do
[1:24:43] the trespass.
[1:24:47] » Oh, yeah. go first to be polite. Age before
[1:24:52] beauty. >> Okay. Tamblin Bailey. Uh 208 South
[1:25:00] Second Street. Okay. This police officer was out on a hot,
[1:25:06] sweaty day and got the abandoned truck pulled away from 200 Walnut Street. Now
[1:25:13] the trash pile is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And now I'm seeing
[1:25:17] mice and rats. So I'm going to get charged with a firearm in the city if
[1:25:23] y'all don't get something done about the trash pile.
[1:25:27] Okay. Item number two. The charity box up town. Mrs. Sears fell last week
[1:25:35] onto the pavement from the step. Can we get that moved down to ground level,
[1:25:42] like parking lot level along that railroad tie where the tree bed is on
[1:25:49] Main Street, so we can still use it without endangering anyone else's
[1:25:54] safety. I do my mom's donations there because she's afraid she's going to
[1:25:59] fall. >> And now with Dorothy having fallen, it's
[1:26:05] that fear. I'm so I'm not sure who put that. Who do you know who put that
[1:26:08] there? >> The high school did.
[1:26:12] » Yeah.
[1:26:17] » I mean, it's not our property. I mean, it's on our property, I guess. So,
[1:26:20] » yeah. We just figure that out.
[1:26:31] » Please. >> I don't want anybody else falling.
[1:26:35] kind of tired of doing my mom's stuff for her, but I'll continue to do it for
[1:26:39] her because that's kind of kid I am. But before we have anybody else fall
[1:26:49] » and Mrs. Spears, thank you very much for all your efforts on the parade. It sucks
[1:26:54] that we didn't win both categories I was in, but I'm okay with that. Next year,
[1:26:58] we'll do it. And I think that's all I have to say. But what are we going to do
[1:27:02] about the trash pile?
[1:27:06] Say, I'm not Is it the house on the floor?
[1:27:09] » Yeah, the brick house where the trash was at Christmas time. Yeah.
[1:27:12] » It's now gotten twice that size >> out by the garage.
[1:27:16] » Yeah. Almost all the way to the street.
[1:27:22] And it's starting to smell really bad. >> Well, it started out a year ago when I
[1:27:29] moved in as a love seat. Now we've got trash cans, kitty litter buckets,
[1:27:36] um bags of trash, a dresser with no drawers, an old ironing board.
[1:27:44] » It just that just keeps getting bigger and bigger.