[0:00] So, I'll be doing roll call tonight. So, uh Dennis can write them down and he can

[0:05] follow up for the next one. So, uh

[0:08] or is that what you're doing? No?

[0:12] Okay, I'll do it.

[0:15] Yep. >> We can do that first thing if you like.

[0:19] » So, >> All right.

[0:21] » Close enough to 5:30 for everybody? >> All right, I'd like to call this meeting

[0:25] to order and you said you were going to take care of the roll call.

[0:27] » Yep. I'll take care of the roll call. So, uh Oscar?

[0:32] Douglas? Dennis?

[0:35] » Yep. >> Steven?

[0:36] » Present. >> And

[0:39] Christian? >> Christian Nunes, yes.

[0:41] » Present. >> Okay. Um and before we start with the

[0:45] public hearing, um Katie needs to swear in Oscar. So, if

[0:50] we can do that real quick.

[0:58] And yeah, I think you guys get it tomorrow.

[1:00] » Okay.

[1:03] » Okay, raise your right hand. You're going to repeat after me.

[1:08] I swear. >> I Oscar swear.

[1:10] » Do you solemnly affirm? >> Do you solemnly affirm?

[1:12] » That I will support the Constitution of the United States.

[1:15] » That I will support the Constitution of the United States.

[1:17] » The laws and Constitution of the state of Washington.

[1:19] » The laws and Constitution of the state of Washington.

[1:22] » And ordinances of the city of Sunny Side.

[1:24] » And the ordinances of the city of Sunny Side.

[1:26] » And that I will faithfully discharge >> And that I will faithfully discharge

[1:30] » the duties of my official capacity >> the duties of my official capacity

[1:33] » for the city of Sunny Side >> for the city of Sunny Side

[1:36] » according to my >> according to my ability.

[1:39] » I pledge this. >> Thank you.

[1:49] » Welcome.

[1:51] » The floor is all yours, Mr. Chairman. >> All right.

[1:55] Are we ready to start the public hearing?

[1:58] All right. I will now open the public hearing.

[2:04] This is an open record public hearing to consider the plan unit development and

[2:08] preliminary plat for the Sugar Beet Ranch. City file number PUD-26-1,

[2:16] PLP-26-2, and SEPA 26-4.

[2:22] The pur- purpose of this hearing is for the planning commission to consider the

[2:25] record, hear the staff recommendations and testimony from the applicant

[2:30] and the public. At the close of this hearing, the planning commission will

[2:34] make a recommendation to city council.

[2:38] In the appearance of fairness, this is a quasi-judicial hearing.

[2:43] As for the appearance of fairness doctrine controls, each commissioner

[2:46] must answer affirmatively or negatively the following questions.

[2:52] Okay? We have four questions we need to ask.

[2:56] Do you have an interest in the property or application, or do you own property

[3:01] within 300 ft of the property subject to the application?

[3:08] And answer yes or no. >> Just asking if you have any interest in

[3:12] the property or application. Or do you own any property?

[3:16] » I thought I was involved in that. >> No, you don't have any

[3:18] » You own property >> Oh, no.

[3:20] » No.

[3:23] » No. >> My answer is also no.

[3:25] » No. >> You can figure it out.

[3:27] » No. >> All right. The second question. Do you

[3:31] stand or gain to lose any financial benefit as a result from the outcome of

[3:36] this proposal?

[3:39] » No. No.

[3:41] » My answer is also no. >> No.

[3:44] No. >> Okay.

[3:47] Can you hear and consider the application in in fair objective manner

[3:51] without bias. >> Yes. Yes.

[3:57] » Yeah. >> My answer is also yes.

[3:59] » Yes. >> Yes.

[4:01] » Okay. Have you had any ex parte communication

[4:06] with the applicant or anyone else regarding this application?

[4:13] » All right. Um

[4:16] I'll put yes. >> Yeah.

[4:18] » Yeah. >> You mean communication with the

[4:21] applicant? >> Um it was more of a

[4:26] kind of like a proposal to bylaws but other than that, no.

[4:30] I don't know if that still stands on that.

[4:35] » Can you elaborate a little bit more on that?

[4:36] » Bylaws? >> Um

[4:40] no, I kind of seen the >> So, basically the layout.

[4:43] » So, basically since you don't In other words,

[4:48] they didn't communicate with you regarding the application itself, right?

[4:51] » Oh, no. No. >> So, it's a no on that.

[4:56] » I agree. >> I work with you.

[4:57] » Yeah, no. >> Sorry, I just wanted to make sure he

[4:59] understood what I meant. >> to say it right. Yeah.

[5:01] » No.

[5:04] » Okay, my answer is also no. >> No.

[5:06] » No. >> No.

[5:10] » All right, is there anyone who wishes to challenge any council members

[5:14] participation in this hearing on appearance of fairness or grounds?

[5:20] » No.

[5:25] » Didn't know if we had anybody online that was listening or

[5:28] All right.

[5:33] All right.

[5:36] The open record public hearing will be conducted as follows. First, the

[5:40] planning consultant will present a summary of staff recommendation.

[5:49] And this will be followed by testimony from the applicant or the applicant's

[5:53] representative. Then anyone in favor of the proposal

[5:58] will testify. Followed by anyone in opposition to the

[6:02] proposal. And after all members of the public has

[6:05] had the opportunity to provide testimony, the commission may ask for

[6:09] additional staff or consultant comments. Then the applicant may provide rebuttal

[6:14] statements or provide additional testimony including answering questions

[6:18] from the commissioners.

[6:22] After testimony is concluded, the public hearing will be closed and the

[6:25] commission will deliberate. Does everybody on the commission and the

[6:30] audience understand these rules? >> Yes.

[6:34] » Okay. Perfect. So to begin, Joseph Calhoun, planning

[6:39] consultant, will present a summary of the staff recommendation.

[6:45] » All right. Good evening, commissioners. As stated, I'll be providing a summary

[6:49] of the planned unit development and preliminary plat of the Sugar Beet Ranch

[6:55] project. The property under application in this planned unit development is

[6:59] approximately 18 acres in size and is currently vacant in use with several

[7:05] existing buildings from the previous sugar beet factory use.

[7:10] The proposed uses are contained within two primary phases.

[7:14] Area one includes a gated 62-lot residential development with 54 lots for

[7:19] single-family homes and eight lots for zero lot line single-level townhomes.

[7:23] Area one is approximately nine and a half acres and will contain lot size

[7:28] light lot sizes from approximately 4,499 to 13,346

[7:34] square feet. Area two includes three commercial and

[7:38] mixed-use lots that will be located outside of those residential areas in in

[7:42] area residential uses in area one. Lot 100 includes an existing masonry

[7:47] building that will be retrofitted as a mixed-use mercantile village with rental

[7:51] bays, a restaurant, brewery on the first floor, and apartments and conference

[7:55] areas on the second floor. Lot 101 will have one-story retail

[7:58] building with multiple lease spaces. Lot 102 will be developed as a three-story

[8:03] mixed-use building that includes small 12 small condo and flex spaces on the

[8:08] ground floor with an 18 two-story residential condo units above.

[8:13] The full project includes 97 residential units and commercial areas that will

[8:17] provide space for between 71 to 166 employees.

[8:22] A notice of application and environmental review was sent to

[8:25] adjacent property owners, SEPA agencies, and published in the newspaper on July

[8:29] 8th, and the public comment period ended on

[8:32] July 22nd. The SEPA mitigated determination of non-significance was

[8:36] issued on August 20th, which included mitigation measures related to the

[8:41] submittal of civil plans, traffic control and access, proportional

[8:45] share contributions, and stormwater requirements.

[8:48] The notice of tonight's public hearing was issued and published in the

[8:51] newspaper on August 19th. For findings, the recommendation

[8:55] includes several pages of findings and analysis documenting where the planned

[8:59] unit development and preliminary plat is consistent with relevant codes.

[9:05] The proposed lots meet or exceed zoning district standards for lot size, width,

[9:09] and density. The project has existing frontage on

[9:12] East Lincoln Ave and proposes new internal private streets and easements

[9:16] to provide access. City of Sunnyside water and sewer

[9:20] utilities will be extended throughout the plat to serve the new lots and

[9:23] development. Comments received from agencies or

[9:27] adjacent property owners were responded to in the mitigated determination of

[9:31] non-significance and in the staff report, which included mitigation

[9:35] measures and conditions were warranted. There are several comments from public

[9:39] works and engineering related to the proposed street layout, fire code

[9:42] requirements, easements, access, water, sewer, and storm water requirements.

[9:47] In the municipal code chapter 1632, there are several

[9:51] subdivision design requirements that are applicable to the proposal, and the

[9:56] preliminary plat meets these design requirements,

[9:59] or there's conditions that ensure satisfaction of those

[10:03] requirements via fire code, easements, and civil plan submittal.

[10:09] Also, in the municipal code chapter 1636 are improvement requirements applicable

[10:14] to the proposed subdivision. As with the design requirements, the project meets

[10:19] those improvement standards um either as proposed or as conditioned.

[10:24] The planning commission findings are outlined in municipal code 1628110 and

[10:28] the recommendation includes an analysis of all those findings notice noting

[10:32] compliance with the applicable criteria. For conclusions, the planning commission

[10:38] has the jurisdiction to make a recommendation to council regarding a

[10:41] planned unit development and preliminary plat.

[10:44] This project as conditioned complies with the procedures for approval of

[10:48] planned unit developments municipal code 1752070,

[10:52] long sub long subdivision design requirements municipal code 1632, and

[10:57] long subdivision improvement requirements municipal code 1636.

[11:01] A mitigation determination of non-significance was issued on August

[11:04] 20th and was not appealed. The proposed planned unit development

[11:08] and preliminary plat will serve the public use and interest and provide for

[11:11] the possibility of creating new housing and mixed-use development within the

[11:15] city of Sunnyside. For a recommendation, based on the

[11:19] finding and conclusion, planning consultant recommends approval of the

[11:22] project and there are several conditions related to consistency with the

[11:26] mitigated determination of non-significance, civil plan

[11:29] requirements including for the private street components, acknowledgement of

[11:33] previous frontage requirements from a short plat that was conducted on the

[11:37] site last year. Fire code requirements,

[11:40] uh stormwater, utility easement, water and sewer connection,

[11:45] SVID requirements, construction and bonding, and that the final plat

[11:49] information and timeline be submitted within the 5-year window as mandated by

[11:54] code. So, with that, I'd be happy to answer

[11:58] any questions you might have. And our um

[12:02] uh designated city engineer, Mike Hyde, is

[12:04] here as well if there's any engineering-related questions.

[12:16] » Anybody have any questions?

[12:21] Anybody online have any questions?

[12:27] » We do have one online, but it's not have a hand up, so.

[12:32] » Okay. All right.

[12:37] Would the applicant or applicant's representative like to provide comment

[12:41] or testimony?

[12:51] » I'm Ryan Purdy. I'm the owner of SPR Investments LLC. I don't have any

[12:55] testimony to provide, but I'm happy to answer any questions if the council has

[12:58] any for me.

[13:02] » Anybody have any questions? >> It seems like they went through the

[13:07] geotech, environmental, traffic impact pretty well.

[13:11] So, they covered everything. >> Of course, this is exciting to do this

[13:15] for the city. This is going to be awesome.

[13:18] » Yeah? How long you been working on this project?

[13:20] » 2 years. >> About 2 years? Okay.

[13:24] » How soon do Do guys plan to start when you guys get an approval or to that

[13:28] stage? >> So, yeah, immediately. We have contracts

[13:31] already ready to go. They're um ready to to close and and start to build

[13:35] immediately. >> Oh, so you guys have all those stamped

[13:38] civil plans already? >> We do have a little bit We haven't

[13:41] turned anything in for permitting yet. >> Oh, okay.

[13:44] Nice. >> Something that's uh

[13:48] come up on Facebook here and there is uh historical significance of certain

[13:54] properties in in the city of Sunnyside.

[13:58] Uh I just wondered if there's any historic uh

[14:01] uh significance of this property. >> I can answer that. There There

[14:05] absolutely is. Uh

[14:09] There absolutely is. When we uh purchased the property, um we dug into

[14:14] the history of the sugar mill, of the factory, how it came about, who built

[14:18] it, uh how long it was active, uh and those type of things. It was important

[14:22] to us that we didn't demo the building, that we found new purpose for it to keep

[14:26] it as a landmark for the city of Sunnyside. So, that is why we're uh

[14:31] maintaining the sugar mill factory and turning it into an indoor mercantile so

[14:36] that we can attract uh tourists, you know, people to come in,

[14:40] have a really cool place to go, but keep the history and significance there.

[14:44] Along with a couple of the grain towers, we will be keeping those as well and

[14:47] incorporating those in with the brewery. So, it's a comfortable

[14:50] uh recognizable feeling for the citizens of the Sunnyside to to continue to drive

[14:55] by, see, and see it be fully repurposed into something new and fun today.

[15:03] » And how old is that building? >> 1909.

[15:06] » 1909. Now, when's the last time it was used for anything?

[15:09] » Uh well, it was only used for 3 years, and then uh U of I, which is uh

[15:16] uh Utah and Idaho Sugar Company, they actually removed all the equipment,

[15:19] packed it up, put it on a train, and shipped it to Canada.

[15:22] So, it sat empty from there. >> Well, okay. Have you guys got it

[15:26] inspected? >> We have. Yep. Yeah.

[15:29] No No issues at all. We had a structural engineer from Spokane come out and check

[15:32] the building right off the bat. It's actually remarkably well-built. I mean,

[15:36] it is It's pretty awesome. >> Well, back then they built things to

[15:41] last, so I'm not >> They They certainly did.

[15:45] » What about the sewer capacity in that street?

[15:49] Since I know we have having an apartment coming.

[15:52] » Yeah, that is correct. I I turn that over to the engineer.

[16:00] » Yeah, there's We're just redid the 9th and uh

[16:03] Lincoln lift station, but uh the apartments actually go out the other

[16:07] direction. They are heading south. Um so, only the front each units like the

[16:12] car wash does go there and the and the storage units, but the storage units

[16:16] obviously don't have a have much. So, um really very little uh additional

[16:22] capacity was used in that. But, with the with the um redevelopment of the 9th and

[16:27] and Lincoln lift station, it the capacity is fine all through that area.

[16:31] So. >> That's a good thing.

[16:32] » Yeah. >> What about the What are requirements as

[16:35] the city's going to require by the railroad tracks?

[16:40] » So, we're still looking into that with the traffic control

[16:43] um analysis and making sure that the we are

[16:47] able to uh obviously work with sugar beets and uh

[16:51] make sure that all the traffic is done correctly.

[16:55] » I'm assuming they're going to require a block a

[16:59] blocking fence. >> Well, there's several options are

[17:03] available to make that. That they're still their traffic consultant um has

[17:08] looked at that. And uh there is a couple proposals, but they're that is is

[17:13] triggered by a future phase of the commercial development when they hit a

[17:17] certain level it has to be in place. So, that is part of the mitigation that that

[17:22] is in here, but they'll be working that out because there are several

[17:28] I shouldn't say several. There are a couple options that are available, but

[17:31] they also rely on, you know, participation with Walmart and other

[17:38] places so that, you know, to work that out as an agreement. But, yes, whether

[17:42] it's a turn restrictions or roundabout or, you know,

[17:47] there there's several options available to them.

[17:50] » Okay. Now, what about the cuz I was reading a

[17:53] the package and it says they proposed a gated community.

[17:58] » Yes, it internally it's a gated private road community. So.

[18:02] » Okay. And what about the city >> For the residential section.

[18:04] » access to it in case of an emergency and stuff like that.

[18:08] » They'll have fire gates. There'll be knock boxes that, you know, and then for

[18:12] the fire access and emergency vehicle access well.

[18:16] » Okay. >> So.

[18:17] » They're mainly going to be private roads in there. So, the city will not you

[18:21] know, obviate any part partake in um

[18:25] any repairs or maintenance that goes along with in there.

[18:28] So, it'll being a private road, like I said, we only take care of the public.

[18:33] » Okay. >> We just got to make sure that those

[18:36] wells are well because of ground water according to the reports at 5 ft. So,

[18:41] that's a problem in Sunnyside if they don't do the proper wells. Houses will

[18:45] start getting flooded. >> Yeah, one of the conditions of approval

[18:48] is that all the streets need to meet the international fire code and city of

[18:53] Sunnyside requirements. So, fire code will definitely dictate

[18:57] access. >> And and all the storm water will meet

[19:00] the Eastern Washington storm water manual requirements which, you know, if

[19:04] you meet that, you meet the clean water act. That that is what it's written

[19:08] around. So. >> It's going going a great project.

[19:12] » On your uh >> And tell you too, we also uh

[19:20] We also uh changed around our gutter system, so we're running a river uh

[19:24] ribbon curb uh so that it keeps all of the storm water above ground. So that

[19:28] that way we're not uh having to worry about the the uh being too close to the

[19:33] ground water. >> Okay.

[19:34] » So yeah, we spent a lot of time looking at how to handle the water flow for

[19:38] sure. >> Being that you're there, I've just got a

[19:40] question for you. Um have you looked into any grants that

[19:44] are available for uh restoring the historic building?

[19:48] » We we have. We've looked at some of those. We've also looked at tourism

[19:51] grants, you know, things like that uh to help come in and do it. But as is right

[19:55] now, we're not pushing any of those or or going after them. It may be something

[20:00] we look at doing in the future, but I think we're the way that we have the

[20:05] construction process set up and the phasing that we're doing, uh

[20:08] we can we don't need to go down that road, per

[20:11] se. >> If the city had had a uh historic uh

[20:15] significance zoning, would that be of any benefit?

[20:20] » That I'm not sure. I'd have to probably seek a little advice or find out a

[20:24] little more information on that. But it is a it's a good question. One

[20:28] I'd definitely look into it. >> Thank you.

[20:30] » Yeah. Thank you. >> For the record, I don't I don't think

[20:32] there is that in the code as it stands now, and

[20:37] during the public process for this, we didn't get any comments from DAH the

[20:41] Department of Archaeology and Historic Preservation, but given the significance

[20:45] of that structure, you know, as you noted, there may be grant opportunities

[20:49] in the future. It's something that you know, the city and applicant can

[20:52] work towards if if that's something desirable.

[20:55] » Well, it's my understanding if we had such such zoning, that there could be

[20:59] money available for such things as a museum and uh

[21:03] um restoration of Roscoe Shellers

[21:07] home and things that you know that uh uh have significance to Sunnyside or I

[21:13] should say a great significance. Um

[21:17] but um but we don't have that.

[21:23] » Another question. I think I read in the package regarding the traffic impact of

[21:28] costing over 3 million and the applicant has to come up with a 7.something

[21:32] percentage.

[21:37] All right, just >> Yeah, that that is part of that's a

[21:39] mitigation, but that that is um projects that uh that is actually by the state of

[21:46] Washington State Department of Transportation.

[21:49] Um that uh they have known projects, two

[21:53] roundabouts that are being constructed, and that's just their proportionate

[21:56] share. As well as the apartments had a had a bigger proportionate share of that

[22:01] that mitigation, so it's just that that is what that particular

[22:07] uh roundabout will could cost roughly 3 million

[22:11] dollars. >> Okay. So, the developer has to

[22:13] contribute >> Yeah, just their proportionate share.

[22:16] » Okay. So, it's 7.something usually or depending on their project.

[22:19] » Well, no, it's 7.percent they contributed 7% of the of additional

[22:24] traffic to that intersection, so they have to contribute 7% towards the cost

[22:29] of of >> It makes sense.

[22:31] » Yes.

[22:36] » Yeah, any questions? >> Sounds like a great project then.

[22:40] » Nice. >> Very good.

[22:43] » All right, I think we've already covered this, but would the applicant or

[22:45] applicant's representative like to provide comment or testimony, which I

[22:48] think you've already taken care of, so. All right, would anybody else associated

[22:53] with the applicant like to provide comment or testimony?

[23:01] All right, hearing none. Would any member of the public

[23:06] like to provide testimony in favor of the application? If so, please come to

[23:11] the podium, state your name and address for the record.

[23:19] » The public are you guys. >> applicant

[23:21] » Or whoever's ever online. We got one person online, correct then?

[23:25] » Yes, still no hand raised. >> Okay.

[23:30] All right. Well, moving right along, uh would any member

[23:34] of the public like to provide testimony in opposition to the application? If so,

[23:38] please come to the podium, state your name and address for the record.

[23:47] Okay. Are there additional Are there any

[23:51] additional staff comments?

[23:55] » Madam Chair, it's time. >> Okay.

[24:00] And are there any additional statements or comments from the applicant or

[24:04] applicant's representative?

[24:10] Okay.

[24:13] Does the commission have any questions of staff or the applicant?

[24:20] All right, hearing none.

[24:24] I will now close the public hearing and open the floor for commission

[24:28] deliberation.

[24:35] I will now entertain a motion.

[24:39] » I second that. >> I would like to

[24:41] » Look, on the back page of that, there's some sample motions that you could use.

[24:46] » Oh. Okay, thank you.

[24:57] Do you have a minute? >> Yeah, I'm I'm just looking at the other

[25:01] the other one here real quick.

[25:05] » Back of this one? >> Yeah.

[25:07] » Yeah, I said you have to switch this one here. Um

[25:11] » Oh, I see. >> Yeah, I would I would like to move to

[25:15] recommend approval of the planned unit development and preliminary plat of

[25:18] Sugar Beet Ranch as presented including adoption of the staff recommendation as

[25:23] the findings of the planning commission. >> Second.

[25:31] » I. >> Okay.

[25:33] Okay. Okay, we have a second. Um

[25:38] All in favor say I. >> I.

[25:40] » I. Anybody oppose? Same sign.

[25:44] Okay. The motion's been approved. Um Thank you for your time during this

[25:49] hearing. The planning commission's recommendation will be forwarded to the

[25:52] city council who in accordance with the Sunnyside municipal code set of date for

[25:56] closed record public hearing and take final action on the proposed planned

[26:01] unit development and preliminary plat of Sugar Beet Ranch.

[26:05] So, thank you for coming.

[26:39] » So, at this time uh we'll have the new people new members introduce themselves

[26:44] to the count well to the uh

[26:47] past members or present members also. Um

[26:51] We'll start with Mr. Nunez over here. So,

[26:55] uh please state your name and uh a little of your background.

[26:59] » Okay. Uh

[27:01] my name is Christian Nunez. Um we're we're a local company here.

[27:06] Um we do construction and development. So, this is that's the main reason why

[27:12] I kind of wanted to get more into the city with you guys to start seeing what

[27:16] I can do to like help and kind of improve Sunnyside.

[27:20] So, I've worked a lot with like um I've done a bunch of homes in Sunnyside.

[27:26] I worked a lot with Corey and and Omar and that kind of just kind of

[27:31] pushed me to work more with the city and see what, you know, what level I can

[27:36] bring Sunnyside to. >> Good. Thank you thank you for being

[27:40] here. Uh Mr. Figueroa

[27:43] » So, Oscar, you know, lifelong resident here.

[27:47] Lifelong resident here and uh yeah, uh I I'm a realtor, so I've been taking

[27:52] people from Sunnyside to Grandview and uh just got tired of that. I was just

[27:56] like everybody wants to stay in Sunnyside. So, if I can be part of the

[27:59] growth and just, you know, kind of get things going, um that's kind of the goal

[28:02] and name here so that, you know, we can see this town keep growing and people

[28:06] can choose to stay here. >> Did you hear? So, thank you thank you

[28:11] you two for coming back and again thank you for Mr.

[28:15] Ruiz to uh come back on to our planning committee.

[28:19] Uh thank you for Mr. Shannon, Mr. Bloomer, you know, for you guys'

[28:23] commitment here with us and uh let's see where where the world can take

[28:27] us and have some fun. >> Yeah.

[28:29] » So, uh again, thank you you two, the new

[28:32] members. Uh we will have one more. >> Yes. So, you're going to be reappointed

[28:37] tomorrow night. >> You're right.

[28:39] » Yes. >> Um and then we'll have

[28:44] Uh and then we'll have one more appointment tomorrow for the planning

[28:48] » Mr. Nunez should be also done tomorrow or

[28:52] » No, he was appointed in June. >> Oh, you were?

[28:56] » Yes. >> No, I was not. No.

[28:59] » No. Okay, I will look into that.

[29:02] » As I say, I don't remember. I know he was appointed, but I don't think he was

[29:06] ever sworn in. >> Oh, sworn in. Okay, we can do that next

[29:09] time then. >> Okay.

[29:10] » So. >> Sounds good.

[29:11] » So, does he have to be tomorrow or yes or no?

[29:14] » No, we'll swear you in at the next planning commission.

[29:17] » Okay. >> Okay.

[29:19] » I have a question. >> Yes, sir.

[29:21] » Since I just re-volunteered or read up Uh

[29:24] » Well, yours I found out your term had never even finished.

[29:28] So, when you came on, your term is still uh active.

[29:33] » Okay. >> Until So, I believe you have 3 more

[29:35] years. >> Yeah, 2028.

[29:37] » 2028. So, 2 more years. >> Okay.

[29:40] » So. I found that out.

[29:42] » Oh, good. >> Congratulations.

[29:46] So. Okay.

[29:48] » It was nice meeting all you guys. This is new to me, so

[29:52] um my my goal is just to take this, see what we can do to

[29:57] Sunnyside, and make it even better. >> Anytime you you have my name and number,

[30:02] you know how to get a hold of me. You can stop by anytime you have any

[30:04] questions. Um myself or Corey, and and then we can reach out to Joseph if you

[30:09] have any questions about um anything else. He's a great person to

[30:13] work with, and uh we appreciate everybody at HLA,

[30:17] and uh Joseph's very knowledgeable in zoning. He's between the three of us,

[30:23] I pick him all time.

[30:27] » Uh thank you guys. I appreciate that. I really do.

[30:31] » So. >> Yes.

[30:35] » All righty. Um

[30:37] floor is all yours again, Mr. Chairman. >> All right. over. Oh, that's okay. Sounds

[30:41] good. Glad you did. So, um And for the two new people, welcome. And

[30:46] thanks again for your commitment and wanting to do this. It's great. So.

[30:50] But definitely we're moving forward in making Sunnyside definitely a better

[30:54] place and the best we can do. Okay. Um public comments for non-active agenda

[31:00] items. We kind of lost our public, didn't we?

[31:05] That's okay. All right.

[31:09] Do we have any items from commission members?

[31:14] Any thoughts?

[31:17] » So, I think I don't know if it's outside the

[31:20] scope or where does this start as far as trying to get a

[31:25] historic land use zoning? Is that a something that the

[31:30] city council would have to do or is that something that we can start or

[31:34] » Let me do some research on that. Um

[31:38] on historical land use. >> Historical land use, yeah. Cuz it's my

[31:42] understanding if we have a historical land use zoning, there is a one to two

[31:48] $1 for every $2 spent grant for updating and um

[31:55] and preservation of historic buildings in Sunnyside.

[31:59] » Okay. So, let me let me do some digging on that and

[32:03] we can surely bring it up at the next planning meeting

[32:07] um and go from there.

[32:09] » Do we even have land historical in Sunnyside?

[32:12] » The sugar beets. They're historical. It was

[32:16] » The museum. >> The museum itself is another place.

[32:19] » Roscoe Sheller's house, which is falling down. It's right above the park.

[32:24] » I'm not sure of that one, but uh I can definitely look into that and

[32:29] preserve it if we can or you know, spruce it up.

[32:33] Uh need be, especially if it's falling down. You may want to

[32:36] » Roscoe Sheller's I looked it up on Zillow and it's valued at $250,000.

[32:42] » I think even the old Carnation uh tower

[32:45] um might be historical cuz it's been here for quite some time. I think back

[32:49] when you were a kid aren't they back there? 19 1919?

[32:53] » So, um I think from what I read, I think

[32:56] anything over 50 years old >> Okay.

[32:58] » can be a historic. >> So, yeah. We would I'll definitely look

[33:02] into that and see uh see what I can find.

[33:05] » And also, um

[33:08] when I when I used to work for the city of Tumwater,

[33:12] um they had historic trees as well. Any tree over 100 years old was added to the

[33:17] historic registry. Which uh so, there was actually a tree

[33:21] board that would uh

[33:24] uh approve

[33:27] or you know, they would

[33:29] basically look uh you know, any tree over 100 years old could be added to the

[33:33] historic registry. >> And yeah, the uh I believe we would need

[33:37] the arborist for that one and at this time I am in talks with people to become

[33:42] the arborist. Um there's a little training that comes after it, but I need

[33:46] all my ducks in a row first, so. >> I know there's some trees in this area

[33:49] that are way older than the city of Seaside.

[33:54] » I'll definitely look into that. >> I have a question, Joe, so if a land use

[33:58] is historical and we have like, let's say the sugar

[34:03] and stuff, can it be renovated differently for land for usages?

[34:07] » Yeah, it can. So, there's a process for establishing what's called a circuit

[34:12] certified local government CLG that's through the Department of Archaeology

[34:16] and Historic Preservation. So, there's some

[34:19] uh ordinance changes that the city would

[34:22] need to implement and then that would um open up that grant process that that

[34:28] Mr. Shannon was talking about. There's a lot of different grant opportunities

[34:31] through the state that that could be a potential, but it would have to start

[34:35] with establishing those ordinances and becoming a

[34:39] certified local government for that purpose that involves like the

[34:44] establishment of a historic preservation commission similar to the planning

[34:48] commission. And then the designation of historic

[34:52] properties it doesn't really

[34:56] it doesn't mean you can't ever change them or or, you know, if if they need to

[35:00] be torn down for whatever reason, it doesn't preclude that. It just the it

[35:04] encourages the preservation of those structures, provides potential grant

[35:08] opportunity to assist in that preservation, but it doesn't mean you

[35:13] you can't do anything. It's just again, it it encourages, you know,

[35:18] similar types of materials and things of that nature, but, you know, if a new

[35:23] roof needs to go on a historic building or something like that, you know,

[35:26] there's there's nothing that would stop uh stop that from happening. Now,

[35:32] depending on how the ordinance is crafted, there might be additional

[35:35] process to get there. Uh there's

[35:38] that would have to be, you know, part of the discussion in establishing that

[35:41] ordinance. >> That makes sense. So, in this case, they

[35:43] can't qualify for a grant since they're going to do it totally different.

[35:47] They're not going to preserve it. They're going to change it.

[35:49] » Well, it depends on what you're doing. There's

[35:52] There's properties that I've been involved with within Yakima that did

[35:56] major renovations that they have to be done in a certain way,

[36:00] uh but they it makes them eligible for a tax incentive. Basically, you you spend

[36:05] you have to document all your expenditures for a I think it's a

[36:08] 24-month period, and then there's a tax incentive that you could be eligible for

[36:14] based on those expenditures if you're keeping the historic nature, you know,

[36:19] of the property. But, there's a lot of again, it's falls back on that certified

[36:23] local government status, and so there's there's a lot of hoops to jump through,

[36:26] but it's it's an achievable >> Thank you for the explanation.

[36:30] » Yeah.

[36:34] » Yeah, that was a great job on that. Um, do we have any items from staff members?

[36:42] » Not at this time. >> All right.

[36:44] » I I do just want to provide a brief update. So, as you know, we've been

[36:48] going through the periodic update the comp plan process. So, I'm working with

[36:52] Hector and staff to get the SEPA determination finalized. That'll

[36:57] hopefully be going out next week. Um, and really what we're looking at is your

[37:02] next meeting will be a public hearing for the

[37:07] periodic update the comp plan, the development regulations that we've

[37:10] talked about over the last several months.

[37:12] And then your recommendation, as with the planned unit development we just

[37:16] did, uh, that recommendation from the planning commission will be presented to

[37:19] council for the final action. So, just summarize, you know, with the grant

[37:25] on that project, that's everything has to be wrapped up by the end of the year.

[37:28] So, this timeline getting it to you in October, and then council action

[37:34] November, early December, will keep us on that timeline so the city can be

[37:38] reimbursed for all the work that's been done on that project.

[37:42] » Do you know when they, uh, possibility of breaking ground or

[37:46] » For the sugar beet? >> Yeah.

[37:48] » Well, first it'll have to go, uh, you know, with the action tonight, we'll

[37:52] finalize the planning commission's recommendation. There's a a couple of

[37:57] steps that need to happen to schedule the council date for their public

[38:01] hearings. They have to have their final hearing to to do the the complete

[38:06] approval of the application. Once that happens, then

[38:11] that opens the door for the applicant to finalize their plans, get them submitted

[38:16] in so they can be reviewed. Once that review happens and those plans are

[38:20] stamped off and signed, then they can begin on the all the groundwork, you

[38:24] know, for the roadway, utility extensions, all the things that have to

[38:28] be done before you can start actually building.

[38:31] » So, maybe uh 2028? >> Depends on how far along it sounded like

[38:35] they you know, had already put some some

[38:38] plans together, but you know, those need to be reviewed and and everything. And

[38:42] then there's construction windows, which which Mike

[38:45] could talk about. >> Yeah, I would I would expect and they

[38:48] have multiple phases, so I'm not sure which they're attacking first. I I

[38:53] believe that they have some commercial um components along the frontage there

[38:59] that they're pretty that they're pretty interested in getting going as well as

[39:02] starting on the infrastructure for the the housing. I would guess that this is

[39:07] probably a a spring um time endeavor for them to get going

[39:14] with with the least the initial phases of construction.

[39:18] » So, Catholic Charities is financing this, correct?

[39:22] » Excuse me? >> Is this Catholic Charities financing?

[39:25] » No. >> I think the phase one and two was

[39:29] residential, if I read it correctly. >> Yeah, in in that they have a separate

[39:35] um >> There was already

[39:37] » There's another short plat. >> Yeah, there's another short plat that

[39:40] yes, of those little frontage lots, I think there's three of them that is

[39:44] commercial that I'm not sure whether they're planning on doing that first or

[39:48] hitting the the residential. The sugar beet part of the is their last phase of

[39:54] that of this commercial development cuz it's it's a much bigger undertaking,

[39:58] which requires more um offsite improvements. So,

[40:02] » Plus, we still have to look at the traffic analysis.

[40:04] » Yes, and >> There's a couple Like Mr. Hyatt said

[40:07] that that we have to recommendations that we have

[40:11] to really look into. Um just obviously, we all know that during the school time

[40:15] it's pretty packed there. So, we have to make sure we were able to

[40:20] uh move forward with that first. >> Okay.

[40:22] Seems this company it's has everything on roll.

[40:27] » Yeah, they're on point. >> Yeah.

[40:30] » So, any idea how many projects they've already done?

[40:35] As far as >> This group I'm I'm not sure. I think

[40:37] they're based out of Tri-Cities, so primarily do work there.

[40:41] » Okay.

[40:49] » All right, we can move on to the next meeting.

[40:53] Anybody have a calendar in front of them?

[40:56] I'd have to turn my phone on to look it up.

[41:03] » Yeah, October 13th.

[41:07] » Okay. Same time?

[41:10] » Same time.

[41:13] » All right. Well, I'd like to make a motion to adjourn.

[41:17] » Second.

[41:19] » All right. >> All in favor.

[41:20] » All in favor. >> Aye.

[41:21] » Aye. >> All right.

[41:22] » Thank you very much. >> Meeting's adjourned at 18:10. Thank you.

[41:27] » Okay.

[41:29] Okay.

[41:32] One moment.

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