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Good afternoon. Good afternoon.
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I will call this meeting of the Tame County Solid Waste Management Agency for Board to order at 330 PM.
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And we'll start with the pledge allegiance.
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The
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United States of America and due to the Republic, we will stand one nation under
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power in the middle of the world with liberty and essence for all.
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Okay, we'll start with the roll call.
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Okay.
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Vice Chair, Directors.
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Oh, is this?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Dr. Hansen.
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Present.
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Dr. Gonzalez.
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Yes.
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Dr. Hurn.
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Dr. Borkay.
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Dr. Hurn.
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Dr. Hurn.
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Dr. Beats.
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Dr. Colmanck, Dr. Jones, Dr. Burroughs, Chair Walker, President, Dr. Zain, Dr. Popp.
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Excellent.
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Thank you.
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Okay, we'll go to public common.
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She was setting up a presentation.
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That's for the tipping fee item eight.
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Okay, thank you.
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And do we have any public comment?
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I just had two, we have a free tire amnesty day open for Tahima County residents only on
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September 19th at the Saturday from ADM until 12 p.m., we'll have staffed locations at the
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landfill and at the former Los Molino's transfer station, which is on Aero Mioway. We'll also be
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accepting tiders at the Manhattan transfer station and the Rancho Tahima transfer station during
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that day, passenger tires, 40 tires, maximum per property off the rim, and residents can halt
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up to nine tires to the event per trip without an exemption, or they can contact environment
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on health, and they can get an exemption to halt up to 20 tires, so say a little gas
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money on that.
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Is that a hazardous material?
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No.
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No, you can't.
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No, you can't.
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It's an illegal dumping issue, is where they came up with that, they had legacy tire disposal
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sites in California, so the DOT sets the limit at nine tires per
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trip. Unless you're an actual tire dealer, then. Yeah, new tires that's
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not an issue, but waste tires, that's the issue. What about landfill at
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thanks Creek? Not because it's not open that day. So, some day, some day,
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can we take them there, some day and then they can sort of read just out of
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That's sort of a little bit.
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But we haven't had many questions about that before.
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Because this is the first event.
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And we've had some indications that rancher
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to him might have a lot of amount of tires they've been collecting out there.
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What I'll say is we won't open up to Payne's Creek this one,
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but this is the first of several events we'll be having.
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So if we don't have a lot of tires collected here,
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then we can certainly open it up on Sundays at Payne's Creek for the next event.
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They're pretty sure you bring that up. Thanks, and that's just passenger cars passenger car tires
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Yeah, like the first one is always kind of tentative. We don't know what we're going to get and then
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We'll be able to gauge from there the other events we can have and
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Potentially, you know, if we do have money at the end of the cycle, we can always take them on the rim
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But that's very unlikely because in the cost
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We do have a fire. I didn't bring one today though. Sorry, but I can email that to everyone.
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Yes, September 19, Saturday.
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Email before you. And then look at Payne's Creek for next one.
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Thank you.
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The only one is I'll be on vacation Friday October 2nd.
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So only when I got plans so far.
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Great.
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on the county hauling commercial side.
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We're having a community cleanup down in the Pascana area.
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Saturday, September 26th from 8 to 12,
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it will be at G's Pascana Community Hall.
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So the corner of Tomb's Camp Road and Pascana Road.
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We just asked that there's no trailers
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longer than six feet, it kind of gets a little crazy.
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but so just household household garbage,
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e-waste and bulky items.
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No hazardous waste.
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Thank you.
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And is that they can bring all that for free?
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Okay. I think in the past, if they, a lot of folks don't have six foot trailers, most of the people we see come into the landfill have 10 or 12 foot.
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So just fill up to six feet in your trailer. I think is what we had advice folks in the past.
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Okay.
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Yeah. To avoid the 53 foot trailer, fiasco. Okay.
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Close public comment. Move on to the consent agenda.
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which includes minutes and warrant registers,
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you know, motion for the consent agenda.
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I'll make a motion for the consent agenda.
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Move by a director's name.
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Second by a director based your diners.
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Call the roll.
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Based your diners.
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Yes.
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Director Hansen?
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Director Nensals.
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Yes.
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Dr. Hurren.
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Yes.
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Dr. Bukke.
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Dr. Hurgens.
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Dr. Bukke.
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Yes.
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Dr. Clamett, Dr. Jones, Dr. Burroughs.
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Yes. Chair Walker?
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Yes.
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Dr. Zayne?
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Yes.
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Dr. Pop.
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Great, thank you.
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Sorry, I didn't ask you if anybody had any questions on it.
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It was warrant registers to anybody have any questions.
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We'll move on to the regular landfill business item eight.
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Revised to fiscal year 2627 tipping fee.
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Review and approve the revised tipping fees as presented.
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So, when waste connections was calculating their tipping fees and sent them to me, they were
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under the pressure we were still collecting $70,000 per month for the JPA fee.
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But we had reduced that fee to $62,000 per month, which wasn't reflected in the tipping
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fees they sent me.
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It was an error. Unfortunately, I did not catch when comparing the tipping fees year over year.
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So I'll make sure that I'm more diligent about looking at those tipping fees in the next
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stuff this year. As such, though, we'll still have to wait until October for them to be
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effective of assume they're approved at today's median because waste connections will have to
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notice them in the paper just like they do when we approve the regular tipping fees for July.
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Blades connections, Amanda Garrett has a presentation that she was going to present because
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there's the question of the roughly $8,000 that was collected each month that access
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portion, how that's going to be refunded to landfill users.
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It's all that Amanda explained that portion.
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And that if there's other questions, I'm happy to take those for either way.
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Okay.
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Good afternoon, Board. I apologize for bringing you back here before your regular quarterly meeting.
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So should be up on the screen shortly. I just have a brief presentation. It's about four slides.
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So, awesome. Thank you. She'll see. Today, I'll give a brief explanation of how the fee
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reduction was missed. The resulting customer impact and our proposed process for refunding
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affected customers. So, what happened? We should have like Paul explained we should have accounted
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for the JPA fee reduction during the June rate making process. The rates effective July 1 used
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to that $70,000 per month rather than the final 62,000. We discovered the issue, notified Paul
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And he said, yep, that's not there, we were asked to provide a refund process for those customers
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affected between July 1st and September 30th as we're asking these rates to be changed
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October 1st. We have developed a refund plan and are prepared to implement that. As a part
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of the effort, we also analyzed the affected transactions to better understand the scope and
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of issue issuing refunds, the July through September, customer impact is approximately $24,000.
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That $24,000 is an estimate. To understand what refunding it would actually take, we pulled the transaction detail for July and August.
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And that's where the picture gets a little bit more complicated.
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The initial transaction review identified 6,730 tickets, cash tickets, averaging a refund of about 47 cents.
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particular. Our account customers, there are about 48 of them that that refund average is out to be 54.
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$133, and that's a little bit skewed. So if we remove our two largest billed customers, which are waste management and
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sear Pacific, that average refund is about $14.61.
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Account customers are, of course, easily identifiable. It's the cash tickets that are a little bit more problematic.
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Those generally do not indicate a name or contact information for us to automatically refund customers.
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So, here's what we came up with.
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So, of course, with our account customers, they're pretty straightforward.
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We receive a credit on their bill.
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For our cash customers, we would open a 90-day claim period,
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where we would advertise this through our social media
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and notices on our scale houses.
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Our mostly our cash customers are repeat customers.
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We would ask them to provide a receipt
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or enough transaction information for us to be able to locate the ticket and then issue a refund.
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So we could track all that activity.
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We could report on the final details following the 90 day period.
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So that is our proposed refund process.
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I'll pause there for any questions that you may have or any edits that you might think are appropriate.
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Yes, Lou.
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Yeah, so to answer the first question, after our clothes in July, and we were forecasting
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for August, this is where it was just part of our financial process where we forecast
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for expenses and revenue and so forth, so it was just a conversation between our controller
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and our team that we, that obviously we know that we're paying less, and that wasn't
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That was a reflected in the rates when we made that.
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So, secondly,
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what was your second question?
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Sorry, Lou.
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Oh, the, yeah.
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So, I mean, we could bring this back to you in January.
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I did propose some other ideas to Paul,
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so that we could capture the full 24,000.
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But this was what Paul had requested us to do, so we're doing a refund, so we could bring it back to you and say, you know, now what.
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Yeah, I think that if you can refund your account customers, that's obviously the quickest and easiest way to fix that problem.
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I guarantee you I probably had two or three trips in there during this time period, but I'm not going to go through the process to get three dollars and 50 cents.
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So, my request would be, you know, go forward with the program you have set forth a lot of people to get a refund if they would like one and then whatever money isn't claimed can we put it towards some other program, the tire industry program or something else that the landfills doing or you guys are doing to try to, you know, better the community.
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Yeah, we can take a look at that.
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If you wanted to do a blend of both, we can certainly take a look at that.
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One of the ideas was, so the total impact, if we were to do this right in the beginning,
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it's $96,000 over a 12-month period.
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So we were my definition of payback, and his definition of payback, or two different things,
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which that's fine. So we were, we were lumping that whole effect starting October 1 so that
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everybody would see that benefit between October and June of next year, right? So, but you know,
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I understand that there's people that have been affected who were already at the landfill,
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so this helps to at least refund. And there's, yeah, there's, we could have cut a check,
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Right, it could have gone into your illegal dumping fund.
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That was an option.
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We're open to whatever works.
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We understand that it's our error and we need to fix it.
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I would think that the vast majority of the people
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aren't going to come up with a receipt.
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I would think it just put the money back into the landfill
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and it fits for the legal dumping or whatever program.
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And is it refunded your contract to customers, you know which ones those are?
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And like Tom says, most people won't even bother with it because they don't have a receipt.
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Yeah, even if they get the notification that, hey, you can-
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Go file refund. I don't think it's worth the time that it's going to take to do all the work for 47 cents.
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The average homeowner get a refund to their franchise hollers or that's what I was thinking too, because almost most of these people are probably also going to be customers at their house.
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So whenever you all know that whenever these tipping fees change, right, it's a ripple effect.
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So the hauling companies rates are going to change too.
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It's minimal, but at least it'll be appropriate.
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And we can pro-rate it back to July.
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He's all occurred at the landfill.
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So, of course, I could just kind of rate for a day until the fees get paid or so on.
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And you follow me and just discounted them so that fee refund is met.
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If you're bearing in mind together, so they're already going to refund the fees and corporations.
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Yeah.
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Just say, you know, our rates are low until this time of this month.
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And you kind of have to really want to take it.
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Yeah.
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That's not a bad idea.
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I mean, like you said, once you open the window for the refunds,
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and everybody has a chance to claim a refund,
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whatever money's left over.
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Don't even tell anybody.
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Just have a free dump day without telling anybody.
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You know, the first 15 people are free or whatever it is.
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Now you all are getting complicated.
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Can you see if somebody's, can you see if somebody's on the line?
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I asked Dylan, I asked Dylan to, Dylan is our controller and he's on the line, I asked him to listen in, but I, you know, that gets a little problematic because we, we also need to have this benefit reflected on the rates through the rest of the fiscal period, right? So Dylan, are you there? Do you have anything to say?
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Hi, my name is Phil and Doyle. I'm the controller for Tema County Landfill and Holland Company.
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It's kind of backed up into the question.
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It sounds like you're asking if we could make the landfill rate effectively through the remaining period.
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And then we're discussion discussing the impact to the hauling side.
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So, it's, it's, we've calculated the pass through the impact would be a native 0.28% adjustment on the hauling side, which we can corroborate, like man said, back through July, and that would be reflected on the next bill cycle.
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In terms of the great
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change on the,
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I was thinking about how it should go, it should align
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with the changes to the hauling company, because it kind of moved ahead and so that was
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ten, one would be a lot of time for the posting in the newspaper and
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then.
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So I'm going to interrupt you, Dylan.
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So the idea was to kind of make a free dump day until we get up to this $24,000,
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is the benefit.
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Do you have any thoughts on that?
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No different than that. Yeah, all the
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versions of that should have refunded. Yeah, so it would be the difference. Hopefully you would have
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very much money left in it. It would be the difference.
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What does something thinking would that be
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equitable though? Yeah.
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If we did that because you'd have some customers who are benefiting
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you're going to allow me to come today, that may not be impacted.
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So to answer your question, Pat,
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most of the giveback is going to be on the hauling side.
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We are our largest customer, and then there's
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WeaSmanagement and Sierra Pacific,
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so really the bulk difference here that you're seeing is the hauling company.
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So they're going to see the benefit, you know, regardless.
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So, but it's just a question of how do we equitably, you know,
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equitably, you know, spread it over everybody,
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I don't know.
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I thought about giving away hot dogs.
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Thanks for a day, I'll be good. You go to a non-medium. Yeah. So on your, on your count, it wouldn't it be easy. They know exactly what they paid or what you charged them. And you've got to have, you've got to be a different seren.
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Yes. So with that, and then the rest of it is your cash customers, right? Is that my.
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that's the delineation yes so Dylan we talked a little bit about this like if we were
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just to credit back our account customers and then you know could we carve out the cash
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customer amount for that quarter.
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Absolutely we we have the no pay to the car about the
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different on between the account and cash.
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So then you know maybe maybe we give that back to you
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I think that'd be the simplest thing to do is give it back to the landfill and they can use it for whatever program or whatever they need it for and.
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Yeah, I think if you do your do diligence to post that you're giving refunds anybody that has received or can prove that they came to the landfill.
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That's what I think would be the most fair is to offer the refund if they want it and you give them a certain amount of time.
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You know, you don't give them forever, but then once those unclamed refunds, then certainly we could put it back to the left.
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I just wouldn't want to take that money before we give it give the opportunity because of the perception of the public that we're then taking more money from them.
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That was my intention for having them go back to July to start like it should have been and then refund that access,
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because that would be the fairest way as opposed to then the agency becoming responsible for that access 24,000 and how we get that back to the community.
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I agree with you. I think that public should have a window of time.
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Absolutely. To put in a claim or however you want to describe that.
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It should be open-ended.
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As far as receipts go, they track usually by license plate unless they don't have a front plate.
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So I know there's a lot of white boards, no plate, so as long as you didn't have a white
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board with no plate, we could narrow it down.
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So if you have a plate number, then you don't need the actual receipt because we have all
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the receipts.
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Now, you put it in the illegal dumping fund would be a great place for it because I would
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agree with that.
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I would agree with that.
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We'd be the most appropriate for that.
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Because the whole county we've been a foot.
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That benefits everybody.
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Precisely.
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you don't have to let a size of every two people throw on the road?
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It gave a hygric ever talk to you about I brought forward the proposal for no dumping
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science on our county roads.
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So if that's part of your legal funding, then yeah, because we don't really
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think that could be utilized for that also.
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I see where you're going.
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We try to ensure that that fund is used for the actual disposal.
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But what I would say is because I did notice we did, we did not spend all of that money
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last fiscal year.
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So, what I would propose is not right away, but again, at the end of our fiscal year, as we get close, maybe in our April meeting,
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we can look at our budget and see what's remaining, and if we could put some money towards signage, I could definitely support that with the illegal dumping.
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Now, because that's going to help mitigate illegal dumping, just like other enforcement mechanisms, as well.
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Okay, so does anybody have any other ideas we have been talked about for a refund in this money?
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And I was there a little more for the presentation to go on there.
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No, so what we're hearing is refund the account customers, right?
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Give the cash customers a 90 day window after that.
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Then we can provide a report to Paul and we can come back and January and give another update.
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And then we will figure out how to cut the rest.
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Can we still, do we do need to take a boat to revise the tipping fees today, correct?
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Yeah, we do do do do do you don't want to do the last slide?
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Oh, I did already.
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Oh, you didn't.
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I didn't see that.
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Oh, cool.
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Yes.
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Please, the eye.
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To have boat cast.
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All right.
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Cool.
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So yeah, we just need a motion on a second.
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Thank you, Amanda.
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Okay.
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All second.
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Motion by Director Commence.
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Second by Director Burrows.
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Call the room, raise chair diners, Dr. Hanson, yes, Dr. Gonzales, Dr. Hürton, Dr. Bukke, Dr. Harkens, Dr. Beets, Dr. Klumman, Dr. Jones, Dr. Burroughs,
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Yes.
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Chair Walker?
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Yes.
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Okay, we'll move on to Adam Main, which is a monthly update.
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So these are on here, every meeting, if you have any questions,
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comments, suggestions.
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We'll save the outreach update and all the other fun stuff for the October meeting.
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Do you have the, do you have the, yes, GPA, we, we, yes, I saw them.
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No, I didn't, let me see.
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Oh, yeah, I just had the July, I didn't have the August update done yet.
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I will have that next week.
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Now that I've gotten everything.
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Thanks.
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Nobody has any other questions for Paul.
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We'll go to board matters.
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Nobody has any board matters.
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Will, uh, I have an item.
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I just, I come back and talk to you about those no dumping signs for.
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Absolutely. Yeah, just, actually we need an email,
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a text if you want to meet out as a LFL, or well,
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I would be sent to the board in County Administrator was going
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to get a hold of you and find out if there was fun for us.
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He did, and that's why I was, I wasn't sure if we could use it,
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but now that looking at how much less, how much less we spent last
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fiscal year compared to what we had been using that account
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pretty much in total, so I was apprehensive when I first got in
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those emails, because I didn't know what it was going to look like.
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Now that I've gotten the budget for the last fiscal year complete, which I'll be presenting in October, you'll see how much access we had in that account.
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So I'm hopeful that come April of next year if we have a decent amount because science costs a couple hundred dollars.
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Well, we can have a decent amount of work to do it.
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So we can do it in the house.
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It's just a matter of working that out.
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So public works makes all of the science for the county to begin with.
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Perfect.
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So you can show to them to work with them and they can stay within the county.
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Excellent, and installation all that's covered by public works.
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Yes. Perfect.
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And so that the whole idea was to have the science say this is your community. Let's keep it clean.
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Like the one when you're coming into Red Bull from Proberta, I haven't seen that one.
[27:18]
Yeah, there's one with the one that I encourage people to hate.
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You live here. Let's keep it clean.
[27:22]
You're right. There are very many of those.
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Yeah. Yeah. I've seen some.
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There's a few. I didn't think there were any when Rob first brought it up, but I have seen it.
[27:28]
There are a few. Yeah.
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I know where they came from, but most municipalities or places you go to, you'll see them
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posted in frequent dump sites.
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Yeah, there's a turnout somewhere that they find garbage with this illegally dumped,
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and you go there to pick it up, that's immediate candidate for a place to put a site.
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I think that's the one on Kimball and Red Bluff.
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There's one that I used to pass frequently.
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It referenced the fines, which there should be fines for the county,
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correct for dump in. So we could put that if you have a code number or something.
[28:04]
I know they're on Facebook last night I looked in that there was a picture on there. I
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think it was in your area down there in Corning where somebody come along and dumped a full
[28:14]
couch sectional set on the side of the road just dumped it out. I mean, you know, it's like
[28:19]
an L shape, so it's a great big unit that's just dumped there. And you know, so we need to encourage
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people to keep their eyes open. Hey, this is our community. Let's keep it clean.
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Yeah, we can do to curb those situations where, you know, some people just dump no matter what other people don't have the money, there's no excuse.
[28:39]
There's ways to make it work without stuff on the side of the reality to a clock in the morning.
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Exactly.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I did.
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I just reached out to a resident that had contacted us in public works and code enforcement to get information on that.
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So I referred them. So we have a program for residents to clean up and bring it to the landfill
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and dump it free of charge with the voucher that we provide them. And that same pot of money
[29:16]
also funds public works, road cleanups, the probation, road cleanups as well as in camping cleanups
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on public property and path the in camping cleanups they do within the city of Redwell.
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So if the resident doesn't want to clean it up and bring it to us, then we just have them
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or take their information or have them contact public works.
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So a lot of times the resident that they'll know the location better and they can describe it better
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than playing telephone with public works so they can go out there and get that taken care of.
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They would contact us, don't clean it up, don't put it into this happen recently, don't-
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Put it in your truck yet. Call us. We have to verify that it's on public property. Now, we have a list. Because there's some roads in the county that are private roads. And unfortunately, then private roads mean private property. I mean, we can't use public funds for private cleanups. So, call us first. We'll verify that it's on public property. Then we can issue the voucher. They can come with the waste and pick up the voucher at the same time. If they're coming on a weekday when the landfill office is open, or we can mail them the voucher, and then they can bring it with them.
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when they're dumping the waste at the landfill,
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they would give the voucher to the scale house
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and they wouldn't be charged.
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Yeah, what about when that illegal dumping
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is that far enough off the roadway
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into somebody's private property?
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There's other grants for private property cleanups.
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They're a little more difficult to apply for.
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One of them is specifically for Agzone Land.
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We've done at least one of those.
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They're very difficult to apply for and be awarded and it needs to be a large amount.
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So if it's a couple of couches, unfortunately, that grant is not worth and probably wouldn't
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even pay for that kind of a cleanup.
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If it's 150 tires, a burnt up mobile home, which was the experience we had on Canterlane
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about 12 years ago, that we could apply for, and then it would also fund game cameras.
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So the game warden can go out there and check and they've actually cited folks that had
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back there to dump. So that was a successful clean up with that grant. But I have to be a large amount.
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I did, I'm going to look into some other options for grants to see what's available because they saw.
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Buick County is doing a code enforcement cleanup that they got a grant from, but it didn't
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see where the grant came from. So yeah, so I'd like to see where that grant money came from.
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And if that's something we could have taken to ban a job or a code enforcement could.
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You know, there's a lot of this stuff that gets dumped in these orchards, just dumped off the roadway and the property lines here, and then everybody says no, we can't do anything about it's landowner responsibility and that.
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And we have to be careful, you know, with public money, but there are occasionally some opportunities.
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So if you know some properties, I think you counted it and I've reached out to their public works again.
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They had used the grant from Calversycle for the
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Air Zone illegal dumping in a unique way where they were maybe able to do a few properties under that.
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So I could look into some examples there and see if that's possible with a future grant application.
[32:34]
If we have multiple eggs on properties.
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Basically the landowners are just cleaning it up.
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If it's small amounts, unfortunately, that would probably be the best option because then it's going to prevent future illegal dumping.
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Once you have a couch out there, they tend to multiply.
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The only other example, we had another property,
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a vision game came to us about,
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unfortunately because the property owners were out of state.
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It was very difficult to get affidavits and other documents
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back from them in a timely manner to apply for the grant.
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So sometimes that inhibits it.
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But in circumstances where you know the property owner and it's easier than that would make
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our job a lot easier to apply for those.
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Yeah, so I'll look at the other illegal dumping grants to that might be available.
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See if I could bring something back Rocktober.
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So anybody else have any more board matters?
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Okay.
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Seeing none, I will adjourn the meeting at 403 p.m.