[1:08] Good afternoon everyone. I'm called this meeting to order. It is now 5 p.m.,

[1:17] Profit is Jennifer Beesley with stay free wear matters. We'll give the invocation and I will give them

[1:28] Pleasure you do not pledge at least let us say and please let

[1:45] us bow ahead

[1:50] Press just while we thank you for this day

[1:53] This is truly the day you made and we thank you for this meeting. We ask for your wisdom your guidance

[2:00] And we ask that, we thank you for the great city of Colleen, we thank you for our military, we pray, your protection, your blessings upon our military family, and all of the residents of this great city of Colleen.

[2:15] We ask for your guidance again in this meeting, and you just need me pray, Amen.

[2:41] Council, you know, motion to approve the agenda.

[2:46] Council member Brown.

[2:48] Move to approve the agenda.

[2:50] Move by Council member Brown. Council member Williams.

[2:54] I seconded.

[2:56] The second by Council member Williams.

[2:58] Any discussion? No discussion.

[3:01] all in favour of signify by saying yes, all opposed no

[3:17] motion passed 70.

[3:23] Madam Secretary.

[3:30] Presentations item 1, PR-26-018.

[3:36] Present Proclamation for National Preparednessment.

[3:41] Mr. Mayor Sarah Williams, our director of emergency management will meet you at the front.

[4:01] Before I read this population, I want to say we are recognizing the national preparedness

[4:07] month of September, and it's so important for all of us to prepare for situations that may

[4:15] arrive, whether it's fire, whether it's severe weather, we want to be prepared. So this is a

[4:22] good time to start in terms of planning, making sure that we have all of the items that we need

[4:28] to be ready for any given situation. And I want to say thank you to our first responders

[4:34] and our emergency professionals, emergency management professionals, they do a great job in keeping

[4:43] on safe and preparing us. And what that said, it's an honor to read this population,

[4:57] where as for more than 22 years, nation.

[5:00] The preparedness month has been observed. Each September, as a nation, as a nation-wide effort to raise awareness about emergency preparedness, and encourage individual, families, businesses, and communities to take proactive steps to protect lives, property, and the places we call home, and where as.

[5:21] Preparedness begins with each of us and includes creating an emergency plan, building an emergency

[5:28] supply kit, staying informed through trusted emergency alerts, and taking steps to ensure

[5:34] our families, neighborhoods, and communities can respond effectively when emergencies arrive.

[5:44] Whereas the City of Colleen is committed to strengthening community resilience through emergency

[5:49] planning, public education, and collaboration with British responders, emergency management

[5:55] professionals, volunteers and community partners who work year-round to safeguard our residents

[6:02] and whereas as a central Texas community, cleaning recognizes the importance of preparing

[6:10] has it, such as severe storms, flooding, tornadoes, extreme heat, and other emergencies,

[6:18] and encourages residents to take action today to help protect themselves, their families,

[6:25] and their neighbors. And whereas the city of Colleen believes, preparedness must include

[6:31] all members of our community and continue to promote accessibility, inclusion,

[6:37] a global access to emergency information, resources, services, and support for all residents.

[6:51] Now therefore, I Joseph Solomon, by virtue of the authority, vested in me as mayor of the

[6:56] city of clean, do here by our proclaim the month of September 2026 as National Preparedness

[7:03] Month.

[7:04] fine Joseph Solomon. Mayor.

[7:12] Thank you.

[8:04] Okay, we will begin our work session discussions of item 7 through the pin for the September

[8:14] first 2026 regular session. No final action will be taken until regular session.

[8:21] Madam Secretary, the first item please.

[8:26] Resolutions. Item number 7, RS-26-132, consider a memorandum resolution, appointing commissioners

[8:35] to the Youth Advisory Commission for FY27.

[8:42] Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.

[8:46] So today we'll be going over appointments for commissioners to the Youth Advisory Commission

[8:50] for FY27.

[8:55] So a little background, the Youth Advisory Commission was created in 1993

[8:59] to serve as the liaison to the City of Colleen City Council.

[9:02] The bylaws were amended and approved by City Council August 4th, which changed the number

[9:07] of commissioners that YAC is comprised of, up to 15 commissioners and unlimited resource

[9:13] members and junior members.

[9:16] The mission statement here is to provide the youth of our community opportunities through

[9:22] volunteerism and service by taking initiatives that are directed toward effective change.

[9:28] FY2027 interviews were conducted by Councilmember Bass and Parks and Recreation staff on August 1st

[9:34] and 13 students are recommended to serve as commissioners for the FY27 based on their leadership

[9:41] ability and community involvement.

[9:45] So this list will all be student representatives.

[9:48] Analisa Emocho, Alamea Rivera Roman, Giuliana Lewis, Reina Cumbi, Osvaldo, Camacho, Burgos, Jackson.

[10:00] Constance Stovall, Sarah Sanchez, Emiliano Quintero, Eva McQuade, Destiny Wilson, Gazelle Issa, Chelsea,

[10:12] Niewes Ortiz, and Gina Issa. Staff recommends city council appoint the recommended nominations

[10:20] as Youth Advisory Commission for FY27.

[10:23] Council,

[10:29] is there any questions or comments?

[10:33] I do not.

[10:39] Item 8, RS-26-133, consider a memorandum resolution,

[10:45] approving an amendment to the professional service

[10:48] agreement with the Schluter Group for state

[10:51] legislative representation.

[10:53] Good evening, ma'am.

[10:55] Good evening, Mayor of City Council.

[11:01] This is your item regarding amendment to the

[11:03] and professional services agreement with the Schlitter Group.

[11:05] The city's actively engaged with state-led

[11:07] slated process as directed by Councils State

[11:10] Legislative Priorities and Principles.

[11:12] As part of its strategy, the city has engaged

[11:15] Schlitter Group since 2002.

[11:17] The term for the current contract is from August 19th, 2025.

[11:21] Through August 19th, of 2028,

[11:24] and it does renew for one successive two-year term,

[11:26] so goes through 2030.

[11:28] The proposed amendment today, tonight,

[11:30] would reduce the $100,000 annual fee to $1 for year two of the agreement. That's year

[11:35] two that began August this year.

[11:39] Staff recommends that Council authorized the city manager to execute a amendment number one

[11:43] to the agreement wish leader groups to reduce the annual fee of $100,000 to $1 for

[11:47] year two of this agreement.

[11:51] Okay, Council, is there any questions on it? You can raise your hand because I do not see

[11:58] you.

[12:00] Okay? There are no questions. Thank you, City Secretary.

[12:10] I'm sorry. My City Attorney.

[12:13] Now, in City, Madam City Secretary.

[12:20] Ordinances, item number nine, OR-26-015, consider a city initiated ordinance, case Z-26-11,

[12:31] One, to resound approximately 0.16 of an acre, being part of lots 1 and 5, block 6,

[12:39] north-side addition from B3, local business district to R1, single-family residential

[12:45] district.

[12:46] The subject property is locally addressed as 312, East Texas Avenue, Kilaine, Texas.

[12:53] Good evening, ma'am.

[12:54] Good evening.

[12:55] Thank you.

[12:58] Good evening, Ma'am.

[13:00] of an item that was tabled at your last meeting to

[13:06] rezone the property at 312 that used Texas Avenue.

[13:12] As you know, on May 14th of 2024, the Council directed staff to begin

[13:17] processing city-initiated rezoning cases for non-conforming

[13:21] uses. Since then, staff has processed 15 city-initiated rezoning

[13:26] cases including 123 individual parcels. All property owners within those areas that were

[13:34] rezoned were sent a letter informing them of this initiative as well as a form to consent

[13:37] or opt out of the rezoning process. So this is a summary of the city initiative cases

[13:42] process to date. So in 2024 we did seven city initiative cases including 89 parcels of those

[13:49] where you received 12 consent forms and one property owner declined to be rezoned. In 2024

[13:56] We did four city-initiated cases, which included a total of 20 parcels, and we received five consent forms, and in 2026 we've had four cases, including a total of 14 parcels, and we received only, when this was prepared we received one consent form since then I think we received total of four.

[14:17] So, of the 123 consent forms that were sent out, you received only 19 responses.

[14:23] Again, we received three cents and so it's 22 responses.

[14:29] And so based on those numbers, the overall response rate is relatively low at 15%.

[14:35] With that regard to 312 East Texas Avenue, this is the red star indicates the location of that property.

[14:42] And this is the zoning of the subject property in the surrounding area.

[14:48] This is an aerial of that personal.

[14:52] This is a view of the subject property and view of the property across the street.

[14:58] Facing east.

[15:00] And facing west. Located within the infill in enhanced area on the gross sector map and designated

[15:06] traditional neighborhood on the future land use map. We noticed that the notified 63 surrounding

[15:11] property owners, and we did receive the signed consent form from the property owner on August 28th.

[15:19] This is the notification boundary. With that staff is recommending approval, the city initiated

[15:23] requests to rezone the property of 312 east Texas Avenue from B3 to R1 is presented, planning

[15:28] Insounding Commission also recommended a proof when you'd

[15:30] anonymously and have the answer any questions.

[15:32] Councils, any questions?

[15:35] Comments?

[15:36] Council member Brown.

[15:40] Was this the owner occupied?

[15:42] No, ma'am.

[15:43] I think I'm looking at the right ones.

[15:46] The attachment we had on our package

[15:47] is that you had not been able to get it.

[15:50] It did.

[15:50] We received, as I said, the signed consent form on August 28th.

[15:56] And we did that by making contact.

[15:57] Well, first, we made contact with the tenant.

[15:58] Well, we attempted to make contact with the tenant.

[16:01] It was subsequently determined to the property on her was, and so we were able to make contact with him that way.

[16:06] You wrecked my mind.

[16:07] Thank you.

[16:08] Yes, ma'am.

[16:09] Good.

[16:09] Councilmember Beth.

[16:14] Why?

[16:16] The staff recommends disapproval.

[16:18] No, so the staff is recommending approval because we've received the consent form.

[16:21] Okay, got it.

[16:22] The consent form was received after the gender was posted.

[16:26] So now we've updated our recommendation.

[16:28] Now it's recommended approval.

[16:29] Yes, sir.

[16:33] Councilmember Brown?

[16:34] I'm sorry, one more question, Ms. Clemens.

[16:37] I may, ma

[16:43] 'am.

[16:43] Yes, ma'am.

[16:44] Okay, thank you.

[16:45] So, our presentation clearly was not able to be updated in time.

[16:50] When we make the motion on this one,

[16:55] ignore me, because I looked at it as if it was part of consent.

[16:59] And my question is now going to be irrelevant.

[17:01] I have a migraine to everybody.

[17:03] I apologize.

[17:07] Thank you, ma'am.

[17:08] uh... there's no other question so you have the next item

[17:11] ma'am accounts madam uh... seconder

[17:14] item ten

[17:16] item ten

[17:18] pH-26-027 consider a city initiated ordinance case z-26-12

[17:26] to reason approximately 0.144

[17:29] of an acre out of the age-oneel survey

[17:32] abstract six forty five

[17:34] From B3 local business district to R2, two family residential district, and lot one block, one

[17:41] moleford edition, from B3 local business district to R1, single family residential district.

[17:47] The subject properties are locally addressed as 1401 in 1411, moleford street, killing Texas.

[17:56] Mayor and Council, thank you.

[17:57] This item is for 1401 and 1411, moleford street.

[18:01] 1401 is an existing detached single-family home in 1411 is an existing two-family home.

[18:09] As you know, both are considered legal non-conforming because they're currently zone B3,

[18:13] and if approved, this request will bring them into conformance with the zoning ordinance.

[18:17] Red star indicates location of the subject properties.

[18:20] This is the zoning of the property as well as the zoning of the surrounding properties,

[18:25] and to the area.

[18:27] This is the property at 1401 Mulfurred.

[18:31] View Facing 1401 Mulfurred.

[18:35] 1411 Mulfurred.

[18:37] And facing east across the street from 1411.

[18:39] And of you facing south on Mulfurred towards Dean Avenue.

[18:44] And of you facing north.

[18:46] Subject properties are located within the infill and enhanced area on the growth sector map

[18:50] and designated traditional neighborhood on the future land use map.

[18:53] We notified 70 surrounding property owners.

[18:55] And both property owners were provided with a consent form.

[18:59] We have received the written consent form from 1411 moleford,

[19:04] but not from the property owner, 1401, the notification boundary.

[19:11] With that staff is recommending approval of the request to

[19:13] rezone 1411 moleford street from B3 to R2.

[19:18] But since we have not received the written consent form for 1401,

[19:21] we are recommending disapproval of rezoning that particular parcel.

[19:26] I'm planning and zoning recommended approval of both on July 13th unanimously.

[19:31] Council, is there any questions?

[19:33] Council member Brown.

[19:39] Council member Kimball.

[19:42] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[19:42] Based on our last meeting on this, if you don't get the written consent, do we?

[19:48] Do we have to move forward eventually?

[19:50] Or are we just going to wait for it?

[19:53] So without the written consent from that's a council's discretion.

[19:56] There's nothing prohibiting you from from rezoning the property.

[19:58] without the written concept.

[20:03] We've made several attempts to contact the property owner and receive that written consent form. It is not our own or occupied either. We made contact with the tenant who indicated that he would let the property management company know.

[20:16] I'm not aware if that happened or not. We don't know who the property management company is. So we've not been able to obtain the written consent at this time. So in the absence of that.

[20:27] Um, unless Council directs otherwise, we wouldn't bring it back.

[20:32] You, do we have a, do we have options to move forward to, can we recommend to move forward with it tonight?

[20:37] If we wanted to, you can move forward with rezoning this property.

[20:41] I've sent all required notices.

[20:44] Um, where consent is not required, but I know was something that Council was concerned about.

[20:48] Okay. Thank you.

[20:53] Council move, bro.

[20:55] In staff's defense, this was a kind of lengthy discussion at the last meeting after the presentation where we came to, I suppose a consensus on the fact that, since there was no written proof that they were okay with the rezoning that the council would decline anything right now that came through without that consent form and moving forward staff wouldn't even take those hours to go through the process.

[21:25] process until the consent form returns to them, since then I am aware that we have at least

[21:32] one property that is going through a zoning process now that had we not done the city

[21:38] initiated prior to, then that would be properly zoned for what the intention of it is right

[21:46] now.

[21:47] Um, so I'll be sticking with my recommendation to, uh, in with staff's recommendation to, uh,

[21:54] discipline of anything where we don't have written consent just to avoid any liabilities

[21:58] in the city in future.

[22:05] Well, the discussion, okay, there is no more discussion.

[22:10] Thank you, ma'am.

[22:11] Yes, sir.

[22:11] Thank you so much.

[22:16] Okay.

[22:17] It takes us to citizen's comments on agenda items.

[22:22] Uh, now on the time for sitting comments, citizens will have three minutes to

[22:26] speak with one minute time-allotted for council for city council to be spawned with a

[22:31] statement or explanation without engaging in dialogue.

[22:39] City Attorney, you call.

[22:42] And I believe this city secretary has this.

[22:43] City secretary.

[22:44] Okay.

[22:44] First speaker is Naseera Zachary.

[22:56] Good evening.

[22:59] Good evening, man.

[23:00] How are you doing?

[23:00] I'm doing well.

[23:01] How much is that?

[23:02] Great.

[23:03] Thank you.

[23:03] All right.

[23:03] My name is Naseera Zachary.

[23:05] I'm a resident of Colleen and a social worker.

[23:07] I was looking through the proposed FY2027 budget and there's really one thing that stood out to me that is that

[23:16] Colleen in the budget is that the Colleen is the growing continuing to grow and as a city grows the demand for city's

[23:22] services grows with it. More people will be more demand on public safety, our streets, parks,

[23:27] developmental services, infrastructure into the departments responsible for keeping this city running.

[23:33] But while reviewing the budget, I also looked at the city's unfunded request.

[23:36] General Fund Department submitted 70 unfunded request total in over 6 million.

[23:42] These requests included 44 and a half positions and just over 3 million in personnel

[23:46] cost.

[23:48] And those were all minor requests.

[23:50] They included staff needs involving police, fire, mental health response, animal services,

[23:55] code enforcement, parks, emergency management, and other city services.

[24:00] Now, I'm not saying that just because the Department asked for a position, Council should

[24:04] automatically funded. I understand that there's a budget, and choices must be made, but my question is how do we determine that the city can meet the needs of a growing population without those positions?

[24:16] Are our own departments identified these needs, so I want to understand what criteria was used, which positions were unnecessary, which ones could wait and what happens to all the workload of those positions that aren't funded?

[24:27] because Colleen is growing, naturally the work load is growing for the city as well.

[24:33] And if residents are being asked to contribute more to support that growth, which I think is fair.

[24:38] And I think it's fair to ask whether we're also making sure that the people who actually provide our city services have enough staff and resources to do their jobs.

[24:47] And that leads to a bigger question about the budget, where should residents expect to see Colleen improve?

[24:52] If we come back a year from now what should be different what should be better and most importantly how are we going to measure?

[25:00] Whether the money approved in this budget actually made a difference for the people that live here.

[25:05] I'm not asking the city to spend money just for the sake of spending it.

[25:08] I'm asking how the money we are spending connects to what residents actually experience every day.

[25:14] If Colleen is growing, I want to make sure that the city is growing with us, not just in population, but in its ability to serve the people that live here.

[25:23] Thank you.

[25:24] Thank you, ma'am. Thank you.

[25:28] Madam Secretary?

[25:30] Next speaker is Michael Fernino.

[25:42] Good evening, sir.

[25:52] Five-year capital improvement program, five-year plan.

[25:55] That's what communist do.

[25:56] We need to do something a little bit better than that.

[26:00] We're going to tax rate.

[26:02] If you're going to vote on, I seem to recall the mayor

[26:05] that I can't paint stump speech on St. Schloer earlier this year.

[26:11] Complaining about taxes, telling us it's too high.

[26:13] we need to do something about it. And what did you do? You propose the exact same thing you did last

[26:19] year. One point shy of having to go to the voters. You cannot tax people into prosperity.

[26:27] We'll disappointed that there's not more citizens in the gallery tonight. You raise taxes,

[26:31] that's going to raise mortgage rates. And for those who say, I don't worry about taxes, I rent.

[26:36] Their rents are going to go up. Where does it stop? Where are the jobs that can support

[26:45] these constant and continual tax rates? Fiscal responsibility in this town just does

[26:51] not exist. We cannot pick a new city manager fast enough, and if there's any true fiscal

[26:56] responsibility to be had with this year's budget, we should get a tax lowering next year.

[27:04] with regard to

[27:09] annual budget. Again, when we look at it, I said earlier today at the special meeting.

[27:17] This is for the benefit of those who weren't here.

[27:19] We spent $28,000 on the search for a new city manager, Wagi.

[27:24] We have an HR director, an HR department, and we have an entire communications department.

[27:29] Why are we paying to do what we have people already on staff to do?

[27:34] I keep hearing from this council for the last decade about how we love the staff.

[27:40] We trust the staff.

[27:41] We're doing really good stuff, but for some reason, the staff is not allowed to do their job.

[27:46] So we just keep throwing good money after bad on things that we don't need to do.

[27:50] Why don't we have our staff actually go out and look for key personnel?

[27:55] They would have a stake in the game.

[27:58] Not some foreign entity that's just happy to take our money.

[28:00] I said it's even bet 50-50 is whether you've got presented the best candidates or the worst candidates.

[28:06] I don't know.

[28:08] But I think if we had our staff, our city, our money, and we've already spent concentrating

[28:13] on that effort.

[28:14] In the end, we would have a better result.

[28:19] And when it comes to budget accountability, and we start asking for stuff, the data breach,

[28:26] boil water notices in this next year.

[28:28] If we don't get answers,

[28:32] there is an election coming up and all of you are up against

[28:35] it. One way or the other. Consider your votes wisely tonight. This tax increase, this is

[28:44] untenable. This is probably the last straw for a lot of people. Take a look at the survey.

[28:51] If I can have just 30 seconds more.

[28:56] Thank you. I'll end with this.

[29:01] There's city survey as opposed to what you folks are concentrating your efforts on.

[29:05] I've said this before.

[29:07] This is not to anybody specifically.

[29:11] The town that you preside over or think that you presider is not the one that many of us

[29:15] live in.

[29:17] Take a look at the citizen survey.

[29:18] See what we care about, what we want accomplished, that there's not a disconnect once you get

[29:23] on the other side of that strap there.

[29:25] You get to do your own thing.

[29:26] You're supposed to be representing us, listen to the people.

[29:29] This is our money. Listen to what our concerns are.

[29:33] Thank you, sir.

[29:35] Fifty-sixth, sir.

[29:39] Dr. Sue Nisecroft.

[29:49] Good evening, ma'am.

[29:52] Good evening, Mayor.

[29:54] Councilman and City Manager.

[29:55] I'm speaking specifically to the proposed five-year

[29:59] I can't sleep.

[30:00] Improvement Program for fiscal year of 2027 through 2031. On page 32, project 925004 North Colleen Gross Resight remains

[30:12] listed as a project approved in a prior year schedule and underway with a project to date budget

[30:20] of $2,250,000. I have confirmed that no expenditures have been occurred against this project.

[30:28] North Colleen has waited for approximately 15 years for a grocery store solution.

[30:34] So before this council adopts another five-year capital improvement program, I believe

[30:39] residents deserve to understand what happens next.

[30:42] What is the current implementation plan for Project 925004?

[30:49] Is there currently a site perspective grocery operator development agreement, timeline or

[30:54] but active strategy is associated with this $250,000 project.

[31:01] I also want to draw a council's attention to project 92503 strategic land acquisition

[31:08] on page 70.

[31:10] That project has $500,000 in project to date funding for strategic land acquisition with

[31:18] T-I-R-Z number two is discretion, specifically a mention that RAN-Zer project, but it also provides for other land purchases within T-I-R-Z number two that would further economic development.

[31:34] I understand that no expenditures have been incurred against that project either.

[31:39] Therefore, my second question is, has the city evaluated whether these projects can strategically work together?

[31:48] Project 9292503 for eligible eligible land acquisition and project 92504 for the North Colleen Girls Recyte objective to finally move with longstanding priority towards implementation.

[32:06] And if they cannot be used together, I would like to understand what restrictions prevent

[32:12] these that coordination.

[32:14] This is not a request to create a new priority.

[32:17] The North Colleen Grocery Store Project is already in the Capital Improvement Program.

[32:23] The funding is already accounted for.

[32:25] The question is, what is the city's plan to turn an existing capital project into an operating

[32:31] grocery store for North Colleen?

[32:33] Thank you and the 494. Thank you for listening.

[32:38] Thank you, ma'am.

[32:40] Madam City Secretary.

[32:43] Next speaker is Christian Bishop.

[32:57] Good evening, sir.

[32:58] Good evening.

[33:00] I'm here.

[33:03] I'm here to speak about DS26-0079.

[33:08] City Council retreat and team building workshop.

[33:11] While we'll not be in the chambers after citizens' comments,

[33:13] my questions are not rhetorical.

[33:15] I'm not in favor of the agenda item for the following reasons.

[33:20] My first question is, where is the funding for this coming from?

[33:24] I think it's rational for the public to assume this comes from tax revenue.

[33:27] If it's not, where is it coming from?

[33:30] Assuming this comes from tax revenue, I think it's reasonable to request

[33:34] if not require transparency and public spending.

[33:37] What is the budget and itinerary for this trip?

[33:40] We'll receipts for this trip, be made public and easily accessible.

[33:43] If there are excess funds after the trip is completed, how will they be allocated,

[33:51] assuming alternate funding?

[33:53] I also think it's reasonable for taxpayers to know who else has financial equity or influence on the sitting administration.

[34:01] What entity, group, her institution, et cetera, is funding this trip.

[34:06] What does what does said entity get out of the transaction?

[34:11] What is the itinerary for this trip?

[34:15] What purpose does this retreat serve, the agenda mentions team building, but I feel this would be better served in clean,

[34:22] where the city administration can aim, inject some money back into the local economy, be engaged with local perspectives,

[34:30] and see promote some more trust in clean government. To conclude, I think that the timing and perception around this retreat is poorly thought out.

[34:39] In the most charitable case, I see an ill advised attempt to regroup and in the least charitable case.

[34:46] I see an administration that knows most of them won't be returning next year and figured they might as well give themselves a vacation on the way out.

[34:54] I am personally frustrated that a couple weeks ago we were discussing shutting down the only homeless shelter.

[35:00] And today, we're talking about sending the city sitting council on a retreat.

[35:07] I yield my time.

[35:10] Thank you, sir. Madam City Secretary.

[35:15] Next speaker is Jamie Carroll.

[35:29] Good evening.

[35:30] I'm going to actually speak in favor of what he spoke out against, except instead of going away on a retreat.

[35:37] What I'd like to see, as I'd like to see you guys get together in one of our city parks,

[35:41] Live streaming. I want to see sack races. I want to see I'm not kidding. The egg in the spoon some truss falls

[35:48] It's not gonna cost the citizens it ain't extra money and

[35:52] That's also additional community engagement. You guys want to be better team members

[35:57] be a team with the city because you guys aren't just

[36:00] This special group that is you guys versus us. It's all of us. You're representing all of us

[36:06] So let's do some, what is it, the three-legged race?

[36:10] I'd love to see some of the people on this side,

[36:12] do some of the race with some people on this side.

[36:15] I think it would be funny.

[36:16] And also, I mean, we're in here every week talking

[36:20] about super serious stuff.

[36:22] None of us are agreeing on anything.

[36:24] So why don't you get out and do some real cheap

[36:29] on the fly team building?

[36:31] It's our classics, right?

[36:33] It's our classics as America.

[36:34] We've all done these goofy things.

[36:36] And they're not going to cost in anything.

[36:38] You don't need to leave the city to build a better team.

[36:41] You can do it right here, set it on the calendar, pop it on the live stream, and let it rip.

[36:48] You know, we've already been in here 10 plus times talking about the budget.

[36:52] So I'm not going to hound you on the budget and what we've wasted any more than that.

[36:57] But, you know, if you are going to go forward with this, let's keep it cheap, let's keep it local.

[37:02] And let's let the lid off of it a little bit so that we can all kind of enjoy it and maybe actually have some lives and get on the same ground with one another.

[37:11] Thank you.

[37:12] Thank you, ma'am.

[37:13] Thank you.

[37:15] Madam City Secretary.

[37:17] Next speaker is Leo Gucason.

[37:23] Leo Gucason.

[37:25] I apologize.

[37:31] Good evening, sir.

[37:33] Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

[37:35] at a mayor-protein council members city manager first I'd say that this would be my last

[37:44] time here for a while since football season started I'd be busy on Tuesday, Thursdays,

[37:51] Friday, Saturdays and Sundays but I just wanted to come up today to talk about a quote

[37:58] As I always do, starts off with nuts.

[38:03] It was a reply from the Acting Department,

[38:08] the Division Commander 101st Airborne Division

[38:10] on December 22nd, 1944 at best

[38:13] going during the Battle of the Bulge,

[38:15] to the German Commander who demanded their

[38:17] unconditional surrender.

[38:20] I'm here to talk about the retreat.

[38:24] I concur with the last two speakers

[38:27] who said,

[38:30] but taking it at face value, I think it's a bad time to be talking about going

[38:36] away, holding hands and singing, Kumbaya. For the last few months now, 4 or 5, 6, whatever

[38:44] it has been. This body is stated that we are short on funds. And all of a sudden, when

[38:51] we're about to, when you are about to vote on the tax rate, which will be increased,

[38:55] just right below, as another resident said,

[39:00] but the other voter approval rate.

[39:04] Here you are.

[39:05] I'm going to talk about one discuss of retreat

[39:07] and I work group session thing that could be done

[39:11] as his second person said.

[39:14] Here in Colleen, very cheap.

[39:17] Fun, people come out and watch you and have fun, whatever.

[39:21] But to be coming up now speaking of going out of town,

[39:24] possibly going downtown, excuse me, and spending an extra excess amount of excess funds on

[39:32] something that is not needed. In the time that we're struggling to keep our streets up. Yes,

[39:40] we have a plan for that I understand that, but there are a lot of potholes out there in clean,

[39:44] I don't know if you all wrote over or not, but I have, you know, we need more firefighters, more police,

[39:51] more EMT people that we could be using that money for instead of going out on a session.

[40:00] The whole hands and seeing cum by yye. This county, I'm sorry, this body did that once before I think it was Mr.

[40:09] Cosper was a mayor, or I think it was Cosper was a mayor. And there was a lot of flag brought on to that about that. I don't know if you're familiar with it. I think Mr. Cosper was a mayor about expanding money on things that should not have been spent on.

[40:25] Not to say that if you do go do this, that you will do that, but that was the last one that came out.

[40:31] Everything, if there was anything good about it, it was buried because of that particular scandal about spending money on stuff that wasn't.

[40:40] I think if you do think your time is up, I have one moment, I'll be closing up. Yes sir, you can.

[40:46] If you do decide to do it, I, the second person that addressed this issue, doing it here in clean would be cheaper, would be beneficial for the city.

[40:54] because you can go out and buy lunch at a local restaurant or whatever, but I'm going out of town for it.

[41:03] I don't think that is very wise now because you're possibly going to raise the taxes on people.

[41:11] And every penny nowadays counts.

[41:13] If you've got people talking about better on a fixed budget,

[41:17] in the long run, it might not seem a lot of a couple pennies, but for them it does.

[41:21] Thank you for your time.

[41:22] Thank you, sir.

[41:24] City men, City Secretary.

[41:27] Your number speakers are on her.

[41:34] I'm sorry, one more.

[41:36] Anca Nega.

[41:39] That's your gem dot.

[41:41] Good evening, ma'am.

[41:44] You're good.

[41:45] Thank you, Council Mayor.

[41:47] I want to speak on the CIP budget,

[41:50] regarding animal adoption center remodels.

[41:54] So, the Council is being asked.

[41:58] Well, first of all, thank you this Council

[42:00] for having a special meeting discussing that particular item. That was very important and

[42:07] gave us a lot of information. So thank you for that. You're being asked to spend $1.7

[42:11] million to remodel this building because, quote, the building was not prepared for heavy water,

[42:20] use and interior layout was not configured for safe and efficient animals housing, potentially

[42:26] posing health risks to staff and animals. Let's see what the City Council was stolen in

[42:34] 2023. One the City Council was asked to approve 1.7 million dollars to buy this building.

[42:44] That this is the presentation from 2023. The facility offers improved canals,

[42:51] enhanced amenities, and accommodations that would enhance our customer service.

[42:58] Well, directly contradicts what you're being told today.

[43:04] They wanted to convince you to spend $1.7 million, so they made everything sound great.

[43:10] They also, at that meeting, they failed to inform the council that there was a conflict

[43:15] of interest.

[43:17] It is concerning to me that it's so easy for some staff to lie to see the council.

[43:22] Maybe now that we have a formal police chief on the council, maybe it's less likely for

[43:28] the city council to be lied to, that building is in a bad location, which means that even

[43:36] if you spend what, that's a terrible idea, but even if you spend $1.7 million, you're

[43:41] still not going to have a proper building as an animal shelter because there's no room to

[43:48] build proper dog kennels. And they knew that in 2023, but there was a conflict of interest.

[43:55] and unfortunately, we're here.

[43:59] As far as a tax rate is concerned,

[44:01] I do not agree with raising the tax rate.

[44:04] There are no revenue taxes,

[44:06] what I want citizens should not be forced to pay

[44:10] for mistakes that were made by staff or council,

[44:15] like the purchase of that building,

[44:17] there was not adequate.

[44:19] And these are my comments, thank you.

[44:21] Thank you, ma'am. I want to say Madam City Secretary. That's the last one. That was the last one.

[44:29] Thank you. Let me just say this and I'll see Council Member Brown and Council Member Natchee.

[44:35] This is for in reference to the retreat team building.

[44:43] It's not planned to be nowhere out of town, out of state, it's right here, it's proposed

[44:54] to be right here, so I don't know where everybody's getting it out of town, but it's...

[45:00] No, not a town. The proposal was not out of town. I agree with you. It should be right here.

[45:08] And if the council decides, it will be right here. And so, at minimum cost, and you'll hear more about that.

[45:16] But I just wanted to give you a spoiler that it's not out of town. We're not catching any planes. We're not flying off to Hawaii somewhere for retreat.

[45:30] I'm

[45:36] trying to decide if I want to do this now or when the budget comes up but I want to reiterate under that CIP.

[45:44] You'll see some items there that we do not have future funding for but we have spent money on and that's why they're there.

[45:53] So for example, the grocery store, the city has spent money on the grocery store, both on studies and on primarily on studies.

[46:06] You see that there because we are still required to list prior year spending up to a couple years back.

[46:13] That is one of the requirements that we have.

[46:18] The city isn't putting money into that fund for becoming here because this council just unanimously

[46:25] told KDC that that is one of their top priorities and we're putting money into KDC and so

[46:32] we're not going to duplicate efforts and we're not going to double the money that we're spending

[46:36] for a particular project.

[46:42] Thank you, Mayor and Council.

[46:45] When it comes to the budget, I'm not sure how far staff will go into the budget, but 60%

[46:51] And it could be more, but the last time I checked 60% of our budget.

[46:56] One budget, 60% go to our first responders.

[46:59] 60% taken out of the consideration.

[47:03] We have other departments are just as important and valued by this council and by our city

[47:10] managers.

[47:11] So, when they decide on the budget, every director, the police fire, chief, police chief,

[47:18] every director meets with the city manager and they go through this list and they decide what

[47:23] is their top priority.

[47:26] So if you see things that were not in the budget, you could believe that the police chief

[47:31] fire chief and every director had a executive director had to say in what they wanted and what

[47:38] they did not want.

[47:40] But we also have a response to ability with taxpayer dollars to take your student infrastructure,

[47:46] to take care of our airport, take care of our waste management, and most important, take care

[47:51] of all of our employees through benefits, through their salaries so they can be competitive

[47:58] and we can keep down and not constantly have to retrying and then hire new people.

[48:03] So the budget is bound to set the best of our ability, our input, but what's important

[48:10] that the police fired each chief in the executive directors have the say and what they want to see in their budget.

[48:17] Thank you.

[48:19] Councilmember Kimball.

[48:22] Thank you Mr. Mayor.

[48:23] There's been a lot of talk about the retreat.

[48:28] So, item that,

[48:33] I guess, when we, or, when we guess when the agenda is made, and when

[48:39] you approve the agenda, you have gotten some input from council members.

[48:43] I, again, it has been, it's been put on each end of, I don't think a whole lot of this,

[48:52] I think it's been put on a agenda with discussion to be had, but I just want to, the citizens

[48:58] know that

[49:03] I agree with them that it looks bad, and the timing is not the most ideal, and I don't,

[49:11] I don't even know what the plans are, I'm waiting to hear what they are, but I think,

[49:15] That as people as members can put stuff on the agenda and then we as council members can decline it. If so, but that's all I have to say.

[49:31] The other discussion. Everybody.

[49:33] Okay. Great.

[49:35] Okay.

[49:38] We will now go into our regular session in the madam's secretary consent agenda, please.

[49:53] Item number two.

[49:54] mn-26-024 consider minutes of special city council.

[50:00] Council meeting of June 16th, 2026. Item 3, mn-26-025, consider minutes of city council special meeting of June 22nd, 2026. Item 4, mn-26-026, consider special open house, meeting minutes from June 23rd, 2026.

[50:23] Item 5, RS-26-130, Consider Resolution, Entering a Memorandum of Agreement with Fort Hood,

[50:35] Garrison, Command to provide mutual aid for police services and information sharing.

[50:41] Item 6, RS-26-131, Consider a Memorandum Resolution, Authorizing the Rejection,

[50:49] of all received submissions for bid number 27-022, FY27, Annual Street Construction Materials.

[51:01] Council, I would take a motion on the consent agenda items. Council Member Naskin?

[51:06] Mr. Mayor Council, I'm moved to approve the consent agenda items.

[51:10] Motion by Council Member Naskin. Second, Council Member Brown.

[51:15] Second. Second by Council Member Brown, you need a discussion?

[51:19] I want to question all in favour of seeing a five by yes all opposed no

[51:31] motion carries

[51:32] seven is zero thank you council now we will go into our regular session and resolution

[51:41] for individual consideration madam secretary

[51:50] resolutions item number seven R s dash to

[51:55] six dash one three two consider a memorandum resolution appointing commissioners to the

[52:02] 27.

[52:09] Council.

[52:10] Mr. Roberts review this, which I would like for her to go over again.

[52:16] Okay.

[52:16] Did I take a motion?

[52:18] Council member Brown.

[52:21] With great congratulations to all of our new and returning commissioners.

[52:26] I move to approve RS-26-132.

[52:32] Okay.

[52:32] By zero second?

[52:34] Council member Kimble?

[52:35] I happenly.

[52:36] Happily second.

[52:37] Okay, is there any discussion?

[52:42] I'm just going to share your hand, I'm sorry, I'm having trouble here, Councilmember Bess.

[52:54] I just want to say how much I enjoyed sitting on that selection committee.

[53:01] These young people are the best of the best of clean, and they're going to do a great job.

[53:06] Thank you.

[53:10] Councilmember Brown, Councilmember Kimball, Councilmember Williams, okay.

[53:15] All right. My apologies. Okay. If there's no other discussion, we'll take it to the boat.

[53:24] I'll only be able to signify by saying yes. All opposed no.

[53:38] Did everyone vote?

[53:41] I'd like to recommend to show that council member Nash King. It's not here. The motion pass.

[53:48] to

[53:51] 0.

[53:54] Okay, Madam City Secretary.

[54:02] Item 8, RS-26-133, consider a memorandum resolution

[54:07] approving an amendment to the professional services agreement with the Schluter Group for

[54:12] state legislative representation.

[54:16] Council City Secretary has did a presentation, which I

[54:20] would like to do it again. Okay, I would take a motion. Mayor Pope Tim. I make a motion

[54:27] to approve RS-26-133 Councilman Mowkindrix for a second.

[54:34] Any discussion?

[54:39] I'm seeing names.

[54:40] Councilmember Kimball.

[54:44] Thank you Mr. May.

[54:45] I'll be I will be voting for this.

[54:48] But I do say that I will say this for the record.

[54:51] I appreciate what the student group has done.

[54:54] I believe that we should pay people what they're worth.

[54:59] And there's services.

[55:00] Our $100,000 dollars. They voluntarily dropped that price. I appreciate that. I want to say a foot of record, but I also

[55:06] say that we should pay people for and pay for our services when to the city. I want to, again, thank

[55:13] them, but we should be paying for what their worth for the services that they do for the city. Thank

[55:18] you, Mr. Mayor. Any other discussion? All in favour, signify by saying yes, all opposed?

[55:25] No,

[55:33] everyone vote.

[55:41] Okay. Motion pass of six through zero. Okay. Madam City Secretary.

[55:53] Item number nine. O-R-2-6-015. Consider a city initiated ordinance. Case number

[56:02] Z-2-6-1-1 to reason approximately 0.16 of an acre, being part of lots one and five,

[56:10] block six north side addition from B3 local business district to R1, single family residential

[56:18] district. The subject property is locally addressed as 312 East Texas Avenue,

[56:25] Colleen Texas. The ordinance caption reads, and ordinance amending the city of

[56:32] Colleen's zoning ordinance by changing the zoning of approximately 0.16 of an acre

[56:38] being part of lots one in five blocks six north side edition from B3 local business district to R1 single family residential district providing a savings clause providing for the repeal of conflicting provisions and providing for an effective date.

[56:56] Okay, Council, Ms. Messier has reviewed this presentation, would you like for her to go over

[57:01] it again? If not, I will entertain a motion. Council member Williams.

[57:11] Okay, Council member

[57:11] Kimball.

[57:15] Okay, Council member Brown.

[57:21] Move to approve or dash 26-015. Okay, there's a second

[57:27] Mayor Pope Tim. A second. Okay, is there any discussion? There is no discussion or

[57:36] in favour of signify by yes. All opposed and no.

[57:52] And be one but it.

[57:56] Okay, motion pass six is it roll. Madam Secretary, excited. Police.

[58:08] Public hearing. Item number 10.

[58:10] P-h-2-6-0-2-7. Consider a city initiated ordinance case number

[58:18] Z-2-6-1-2 to rezone approximately 0.144 of an anchor out of the H-O-Neal Survey.

[58:27] Abstract 645 from B-3 local business district to R-2 to family residential

[58:32] district and law 1, block 1,

[58:35] mold for addition from B3,

[58:38] local business district are one single

[58:40] family residential district.

[58:42] The subject properties are locally addressed

[58:44] as 1401 and 1411,

[58:47] mold for street,

[58:48] clean Texas and the ordinance caption reads

[58:51] an ordinance,

[58:53] amending the city of

[58:54] clean, zoning ordinance

[58:55] by changing the zoning of

[58:57] approximately 0.144 of an anchor

[59:00] out of H. O'Neill survey,

[59:02] Abstract 645 from B3 local business district to R2, two family residential district and

[59:09] lot one block one mall for addition from B3 local business district to R1 single family

[59:16] residential district, providing savings clause, providing for the repeal of conflicting

[59:21] provisions and providing an effective date.

[59:25] Council Ms. Monsieur has went over this, would you want her to go over it again?

[59:29] If not, I would entertain a motion.

[59:34] Council member Grown.

[59:37] I just need to verify something real quick with the attorney, please.

[59:41] This one for real this time.

[59:43] A motion to approve as presented with approve 1411 and disapproved

[59:48] 1401 correct.

[59:51] As presented, that's correct.

[59:53] You may want to be clear since there was a presentation included initially

[59:57] that change from the presentation, so on this one.

[1:00:00] I would actually recommend to be clear as presented to approve 1411 and disapproved 414.

[1:00:05] Okay. And it would still be proper to make that as a single motion since it's a single item. Yes.

[1:00:10] Okay. With that, I move to approve the zoning request for 1411, moleford street and disapproved the zoning for 1411, moleford street.

[1:00:26] Okay, the motion's been made there a second Council member Williams.

[1:00:31] Yes, sir.

[1:00:32] I second that motion.

[1:00:36] And your discussion.

[1:00:38] Council member Kimball.

[1:00:40] Yeah.

[1:00:41] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[1:00:42] I say my piece on this.

[1:00:44] I don't know how long we know we're trying to move forward.

[1:00:48] There are enduring feel.

[1:00:49] I don't know how long we wait for the owner.

[1:00:51] I will be voting with the council on this, but I just hope staff can come up with a plan

[1:00:55] if the owner never responds.

[1:00:57] That's just my concern.

[1:00:59] Thank you.

[1:01:02] Any further discussion?

[1:01:04] Just no further discussion?

[1:01:05] All in favor of signify by saying, yes, I'll oppose no.

[1:01:16] Okay.

[1:01:16] Emotion passed six to zero.

[1:01:20] Thank you, council.

[1:01:25] Okay.

[1:01:27] Item.

[1:01:28] Item 11, pH-26-028, hold a public hearing and consider an ordinance, amending the code of ordinances

[1:01:37] Chapter 24, Solid Waste Collection and Disposal Services, the Ordnance Caption Reads, and

[1:01:44] Ordnance, a Mending Chapter 24, Solid Waste, at the Code of Court ordinances of the

[1:01:49] City of Killing, Texas by establishing a fee for curbside, brush, collection services, and

[1:01:55] adopting disposal regulations for non-collectable items placed at curbside.

[1:02:00] Providing for the repeal of conflicting provisions, providing for a severability clause,

[1:02:05] providing a savings clause and providing

[1:02:08] for publication and an effective date.

[1:02:12] Okay, good evening, sir, Mr. Dudley.

[1:02:14] Are you doing Council Mayor, City Manager?

[1:02:19] The item I have for you today is

[1:02:21] the Solid Waste Ordnance Amendment.

[1:02:24] Live at a background in FY26

[1:02:27] that was a new fees added to the fee schedule

[1:02:29] to assist with offsetting the cost of disposal

[1:02:32] and transportation of these items.

[1:02:34] We have a addition of Section 24-32 non-collection material,

[1:02:40] addition of Section 24-50 brush collection,

[1:02:44] and amendment of Section 24-16 commercial rates,

[1:02:48] a dating code of ordinance.

[1:02:51] Chapter 24, Solid Waste Collation Services,

[1:02:53] is necessary to provide details of these additional fees,

[1:02:57] as well as make, as well as making various grammatical edits

[1:03:00] throughout the ordinance to ensure clarity and provide a document.

[1:03:04] for the citizens of Colleen that is third law and concise.

[1:03:09] Here we have a section 24-32 non-collection material.

[1:03:13] This is a solid waste why.

[1:03:16] It is to establish a cost recovery process

[1:03:19] for the removal of non-collectable materials

[1:03:21] placed at court, non-collectable materials

[1:03:24] or not part of the routine curbside collection,

[1:03:28] but may be accepted at the transfer station.

[1:03:32] Construction and demolition material,

[1:03:34] such as drywall, lumber, concrete, brick, tile, the all required disposal methods and equipment

[1:03:41] appropriate for those materials. And also, it provides a process for addressing a material that

[1:03:47] remains in the public right away after notice.

[1:03:53] There's a bit more background for 2432,

[1:03:55] that's 32 non-collection material. This is another waste process. We have a property on this wheel

[1:04:02] receive written notice, and afforded our opportunity to volunteer, remove the material at

[1:04:07] no charge.

[1:04:09] If the material is not removed within a lot of time, the city may remove it and assess an applicable

[1:04:16] fee.

[1:04:17] It's worth noting that non-collectable a curve side does not mean non-acceptable at the transfer

[1:04:22] station.

[1:04:26] There will be more background here for a section 24 dash 50 to brush collection.

[1:04:30] It's to establish a user-based fee structure that aligns the cost of brush collection services

[1:04:36] with the customers utilizing the service.

[1:04:39] The proposed fee will recover a portion of the cost of providing brush collection and promote

[1:04:44] a more equitable distribution of expenses among customers and support the long-term sustainability

[1:04:49] of the city's residential brush collection program.

[1:04:56] Here we have a section 24-Dash 116.

[1:05:00] Commercial rates, the proposed adjustment is intended to move the commercial roll off services towards cost recovery, while providing a phased increase that is more manageable for customers.

[1:05:12] The 25% for FY2027 increase reflects the rate studies direction to establish a more manageable

[1:05:21] initial adjustment.

[1:05:23] The 15% annual increase thereafter through FY2031 followed the phase rate path identified

[1:05:31] in the cost of the cost of a service study.

[1:05:34] This was approved by Council, following the public hearing held June 16, 2016.

[1:05:40] I mean, 2026, I'm sorry.

[1:05:46] Recommendation at Council approved the Ordnance Amendment in Chapter 24.

[1:05:50] Solid Waste of Code of Ordnance to clarify our residential and commercial services

[1:05:53] and establish costs, recovery provisions, and incorporate the adopted commercial rolloff rate

[1:05:59] adjustments.

[1:06:00] And I'm here to take any questions that you may have.

[1:06:04] Thank you, Council.

[1:06:08] You also remember Kimball?

[1:06:13] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[1:06:15] So, thank you for the presentation.

[1:06:16] So what customers enjoy now versus if this ordinance is adopted

[1:06:22] For example, let's go to brush so right now you guys come by some might

[1:06:27] Cut the stuff down put the brush power in front of the house. You come by pick it up right now

[1:06:32] That's what no what happens

[1:06:34] We pick it up depends on the size. Yeah, it's been on the size. Yeah, yeah, if you're six cubic it right now if you're six cubic it

[1:06:40] Or less it's free

[1:06:42] If it's in your being in your opinion, there's a lot of the cities do that for free.

[1:06:50] Seller Sun City's they kind of incorporated in the rate.

[1:06:54] The resident's a rate from what I'm understanding.

[1:06:55] There's a call that it is is this is this put inside the rate for whatever that city rate may be.

[1:07:02] But it is a lot of cities that don't pick up brush exactly.

[1:07:05] They do have drop off points and do not drop off points, but they have to drop off a place for them to bring a brush.

[1:07:12] So when this ordinance in past, what does this look like when that same brush is out in front

[1:07:15] house, ordinance in past, what there's a, now there's a fee associated with, yes sir.

[1:07:20] So what happens is that we're going to come over there, do the service verification, and we're

[1:07:25] going to service the stop, we're going to assess the size of it, and then we go to charge

[1:07:30] accordingly.

[1:07:31] Do you, I know there's cameras on the trucks, is there some kind of photographic evidence or

[1:07:36] a size of service verification through our work?

[1:07:38] I'm just trying to make a plan for those that, because it's going to be for many, for a lot of, for many years, we've been to many cities that have enjoyed this service without payment.

[1:07:48] Now there's going to be a change of service and we might just have to do a little education to talk or wait through that.

[1:07:55] Yeah, that's part of the education.

[1:07:56] Absolutely. We have our team, we actually out there for the most part.

[1:08:01] We're going to be out there trying to explain things as we see people.

[1:08:06] And, and the city that I'm making people who say, hey, you're, city's charging and making money.

[1:08:11] We're just trying to get close to a hundred, but at least in my opinion, it looks like we're just trying to get to a close to a hundred percent cost recovery.

[1:08:19] Instead of losing money on this operation, we're just trying to get some back and it looks like you staggered that over.

[1:08:26] I don't think it's going to be a hundred percent.

[1:08:27] But you still over a amount of time trying to recover some of the cost that it cost it to do business to do this for the citizens to enjoy.

[1:08:37] So they don't have to actually go down to themselves and do it.

[1:08:41] Is that correct statement?

[1:08:42] Yes, that's correct.

[1:08:44] And again,

[1:08:48] I would be happy if we just hit a pick up the brush.

[1:08:50] and whatever would not, when I try to charge people,

[1:08:54] absorbent charges, I think this is a fair fee,

[1:08:58] and I think it will recover a portion of the cost

[1:09:02] which still helps overall.

[1:09:04] Because those costs, in turn,

[1:09:06] you still have to buy trucks and do maintenance

[1:09:09] and a pair equipment, all those things that go with that,

[1:09:12] and there's a cost associated with that.

[1:09:14] So I think I congratulate you and your staff

[1:09:17] for, you know, do this presentation, trying to explain to everyone that it may not be

[1:09:25] across a concert, and not just really free, but for many years we have, in citizens

[1:09:30] I've enjoyed the city picking it up without costs, and we're just trying to get something

[1:09:34] to call us back.

[1:09:34] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[1:09:36] Thank you.

[1:09:37] Councilmember McKindex.

[1:09:39] Good afternoon, Mr. David.

[1:09:41] me Utah intensively about this here at Councilmember Kimber actually hit all of the points

[1:09:49] that mean you talked about when we talked about this so I'm not going to go over all

[1:09:53] of those points again but I will just like Councilmember Kimber's.

[1:10:00] Senate to the citizens. For years, we've been able to get this service without charging. And now we're trying to get, like he said, as close to cost recovery as we can. We're now never going to get 100% because we're still below the earmark of any other city. We're still doing more than any other city, the size of Colleen.

[1:10:29] And we just want the citizens to know when citizens say we don't care, we do care because you're actually getting something a lot cheaper than those other cities.

[1:10:40] Is that correct?

[1:10:41] That's correct.

[1:10:42] Especially the service that we provide because we do provide additional services that other cities in municipalities don't.

[1:10:51] That's all I have Mr. Chairman.

[1:10:52] Councilmember Brown.

[1:10:56] Mr. Nothing.

[1:10:57] How you doing now?

[1:10:59] I don't know if you heard me. I have migraines to please bear with me. When did we get

[1:11:03] route wear on breast trucks? Because I was only aware we had them on the residential and

[1:11:08] some of the commercial trucks for routes like that. We've always had route wear on the

[1:11:16] breast trucks. Okay. All of them are equipped and operating that. Yes, all of them are equipped.

[1:11:23] We all get an extra cameras for the trucks preparing ourselves for October 1.

[1:11:28] Some of the trucks have one camera on them, but we want them to have two cameras on the side.

[1:11:32] But even if they don't, they do have the right where it's happens, where they can take them out and do a service verification when they actually take the picture at the stop.

[1:11:40] And you said currently up to six yards, cubic yards of brush can be collected.

[1:11:45] Yes ma'am, that'd be at $10.

[1:11:48] Currently?

[1:11:49] Yeah, well, currently no up to six cubic yards is free right now.

[1:11:53] How do we measure that six cubic yard?

[1:11:58] I don't have the dimensions right here front of me right now, but

[1:12:02] Well, we do measure no we do measure okay, because I just don't want to

[1:12:06] My concern is we start sending out the bills for this and then we start getting the complaints

[1:12:11] We how do you know that's how much we had and then can you remind me how much do we set if you go over six cubic yards because I didn't

[1:12:19] We're calling that number. Okay, you over six keyboards each addition key because one would be seven dollars and 50 cents

[1:12:26] When did we was that in the chart?

[1:12:29] Yes, ma'am. It was in the chart. Okay, seven and 50. Are we going to have a great period after our October one like hey, you know

[1:12:40] we picked up

[1:12:42] five and a half

[1:12:44] cubic yards of

[1:12:46] brush. And so you would have been paying as much. I don't understand a lot, of course you

[1:12:55] could be the thing. Well, because I believe that we're already behind the curveball to put it

[1:13:01] any notice out in September. We couldn't officially put notice of any feet increases until the

[1:13:07] council votes to approve them. So we don't have a way to put it in utility bills for the month of

[1:13:13] September. And then in October, you know, hey, we've started this, but by the time they get

[1:13:19] the notice, we're already charging them and it's already on their November bill.

[1:13:24] Understandable. And that's doable. We can be flexible of the city managers found that we can

[1:13:30] wait until November. That's the case. And that gives somebody 30 more days to get prepared for that.

[1:13:40] Sure, we can do that. Thank you. And then what's the difference between a roll-off

[1:13:46] container and the dumpsters that we see at businesses and apartment complexes?

[1:13:52] The dumpsters in the world, the difference between them is more sort of size and the

[1:13:59] ability to like the role loss of like for construction, demolition and type of things like

[1:14:04] that really heavy material, you big materials while the dumpsters is more suited for household

[1:14:09] trash, just like the 96 gallons that we put at a curve side.

[1:14:13] And where I'm going with that one is I don't want residents of apartment, so anything above.

[1:14:21] If I remember correctly when I was told at finance, anything above fourplex becomes a commercial

[1:14:28] account.

[1:14:29] So I don't want those individuals to feel like because they're in an apartment complex and there's

[1:14:34] a dumpster that solid wastery is going to go up and then they're paying more toward their rent bill.

[1:14:39] I

[1:14:43] don't know how to ask it a question to be honest with you right now.

[1:14:47] It rolls off so I'm not used in apartments.

[1:14:49] That is where I was really getting it.

[1:14:52] It's making sure that's why I asked what the difference.

[1:14:55] Because I want to make sure there's a difference between the roll off and the dump service you would have in it.

[1:15:00] Department complex, or a business would be using, because I don't want to see our small businesses

[1:15:04] coming up and struggling more, because their utility bills are increasing, because of this fee increase.

[1:15:10] Okay. And just to add, the, the, the, the rolloffs are a lot, the large rectangular containers,

[1:15:16] it, the only, only one per truck. There's, there's so large. And that is actually the one area of

[1:15:23] garbage service that's competitive. There are private contractors that do this. And we are, by many

[1:15:29] factors far under the going rates of the province. In fact, we're so far

[1:15:34] around how they have any business. But it's mostly construction. And when we

[1:15:40] do the collections around town, sometimes those are the big rectangular boxes

[1:15:44] you see, those are the roll-offs. And I recall seeing them out at the transfer

[1:15:49] station with Mr. Dudley when we went out there to look. And I actually believe it

[1:15:53] or not one or two of our competitors were out there, but I appreciate it. Thank you.

[1:15:58] Thank you.

[1:15:59] Council member Williams.

[1:16:04] How are you doing?

[1:16:05] A lot of this you explained during our tour that we've had now appreciate that.

[1:16:12] And my question for you would be, does this ordinance provide reasonable accommodation

[1:16:17] for elderly, the disabled, otherwise vulnerable residents who may have difficulty complying

[1:16:24] with collections requirements?

[1:16:26] It depends on what, which one you're talking about, like, brush collection, I mean, if they put it

[1:16:35] out at the road, we're going to pick it up, it's not our, you know, we can't bring it to the

[1:16:40] road for them, and in that situation, but they can bring it to the road, we'll, again,

[1:16:45] we'll service them, like, we service everybody else, now when it comes to the non-collectable

[1:16:49] materials, that's the same thing, you know, if it's at the road, we'll take care of it,

[1:16:55] that I have no way of accommodating them to get it to the road other than just picking it up

[1:17:00] and servicing it when my trucks come through.

[1:17:05] Thank

[1:17:08] you.

[1:17:08] Okay.

[1:17:09] There's no other Mr.

[1:17:13] Mayor.

[1:17:13] Mr. Mayor.

[1:17:14] You know what?

[1:17:15] I just might add.

[1:17:16] Go ahead sir.

[1:17:17] Part of this.

[1:17:18] Part of the concept behind this.

[1:17:19] If you just have the regular residential container that you roll out of the street once a week

[1:17:24] and that's all you ever do.

[1:17:27] For many years you've been subsidizing all the people that put out lots of stuff at the curve and rather than raise the rate for everybody.

[1:17:34] We were trying to put the charge on the people actually creating the cost.

[1:17:38] That's sort of the concept behind this.

[1:17:41] And hopefully it will keep us what we've had the same rate, the weekly garbage collection rate for a long time.

[1:17:48] And if this works as planned, we should be able to go a little bit longer without raising that basic rate on everybody.

[1:17:56] It's great.

[1:17:58] Thank you sir.

[1:18:02] Coach Luma Brown.

[1:18:05] Very Mr. Dudley.

[1:18:06] Just when you thought you were scapes.

[1:18:09] Can you remind me what the FES for a non-collectable items?

[1:18:14] The non-collectable FES.

[1:18:16] That's gonna be $150 and $10 per cubic yard.

[1:18:21] $150, that's base rate, right?

[1:18:23] Yes ma'am.

[1:18:26] Per cubic yard?

[1:18:28] Yeah, $10 per cubic yard.

[1:18:29] Okay. And so, how does that affect us because in the past, currently, let me, let me

[1:18:38] rephrase that. Currently, if a person or an entity puts something near their garbage

[1:18:45] collection that is non-collectable, it just sits there until code enforcement comes to

[1:18:53] the way it currently works.

[1:18:56] Kind of that's what it's been doing.

[1:18:58] You know, we get calls from code enforcement about

[1:19:00] new sense calls about C&D,

[1:19:03] and not collectables at curbside.

[1:19:05] The only thing that we've been doing now

[1:19:07] is trying to make contact with the customer

[1:19:09] and the customer know they have to remove it.

[1:19:11] And if they don't remove it,

[1:19:12] it would end up happening code enforcement

[1:19:13] and end up getting involved.

[1:19:15] By us putting this in place here,

[1:19:17] this is going to help code enforcement

[1:19:18] as well as give us opportunity

[1:19:20] to provide that information to the customer

[1:19:22] and let them know kind of how you look.

[1:19:25] You have to remove this off the side of the road

[1:19:26] if you don't, then this is what's gonna happen.

[1:19:29] And then we let them know that you can take it

[1:19:31] to the transfer station.

[1:19:33] And we accept it as a transfer station,

[1:19:34] and they can use the utility bill too as well.

[1:19:37] I have a house over here on the left side

[1:19:39] that I can guarantee the property owners

[1:19:42] are gonna love that because they have had a role of carpet

[1:19:45] setting outside for a couple of years

[1:19:48] that we haven't had a way to pick up

[1:19:50] or a way to get through that.

[1:19:52] code is but all credit to code enforcement they've opened the case they've done what they can with it but you know

[1:20:00] So, for a couple of years, that's just been sitting out there. I will go back to my previous question though, no, this one may be not so much leeway on typing, but how are we going to put the word out there about the specific items that, because if I leave a can of paint sitting on the ground next to my garbage can, I would prefer you just leave it there. I don't feel like spending a hundred and sixty dollars for you to take that one can of paint

[1:20:29] away. So how do we get that word out and make it so it's equitable? Because if there's two

[1:20:35] three things that we can clearly see, I can't see charging them that much money for it.

[1:20:41] Okay. And I get it. I understand what we're going to do. We're going to knock it every door.

[1:20:47] We're going to leave pamphlets. We're going to also leave information on material that's not

[1:20:51] supposed to be there along with the supervisors card or the specialist card. And we're going to follow

[1:20:57] up with that customer. We're going to get that customer opportunity after we let them know,

[1:21:01] hey, these things have to be removed. And when it comes to paint, we'll let them know.

[1:21:06] Certain paints, you know, you put a key to litter in them and solidify. You can solidify them

[1:21:10] that way and you can actually throw them away once they dry it out. So we'll take it that way.

[1:21:15] So you won't have to worry about having that curve side that way. So I didn't know that,

[1:21:20] but that is great information to have. I'll just say to save a little bit of the budget

[1:21:27] for your department instead of going out, creating all of these. I know Stick Cog has all the forms they use for

[1:21:34] the household hazardous waste collections. Most of the items that are on that are the items that we can

[1:21:40] had deemed non-collectable anyway. And so perhaps we could work with Stick Coggets. Some of those

[1:21:46] stick it cleanly upon them and say, hey look, put these out. Pay this much. Okay. Just a few minutes. That's

[1:21:54] you want to use your budget go ahead but I'm trying to help you out. I get you. I appreciate that.

[1:22:01] Okay, council council member best. Mayor, I was going to make a motion but I see a couple

[1:22:06] of other people want to speak so should I like or after that.

[1:22:12] You what's a public hearing. So we've

[1:22:15] got to do public hearing. Yes sir. Yeah.

[1:22:21] Council member Hendrix?

[1:22:25] All right first first I don't want to

[1:22:27] I don't know shade, but we actually did those shade on our code enforcement.

[1:22:34] But there I know I'm out, and I go through the neighborhoods and anything that I see out

[1:22:41] of place, I take a snapshot, and I send this to code enforcement, or I use what is called

[1:22:48] the Colleen Connect app.

[1:22:50] And the citizens can use this app.

[1:22:53] If you see your neighbors got something out there that don't belong, you can assist code enforcement assist this city and in helping out with removing these items.

[1:23:05] But I also know on a site itself on the city site. They have a lot of people say they kind of crazy little commercial light deals with they also talk about this.

[1:23:17] things that shouldn't be put out on the curve and our citizens were put in stuff out

[1:23:25] on our site to inform citizens and it comes to a point where a law officer told me this

[1:23:33] one time ignorance to the law is no excuse if it is put out there and there's ample amount of

[1:23:41] time for you to make your adjustments then it is what it is and we're not here to

[1:23:47] hold anybody's hand. We're going to put the notices out when the notices need to be put out,

[1:23:53] but also we need the citizens to read and get on the city website because a lot of this information

[1:24:00] is already out there. And that's all I have, Mr. Mayor.

[1:24:04] Councillor interjecting.

[1:24:09] Councillor interjecting.

[1:24:09] Councillor interjecting. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. To be the last time I speak on this, my second time.

[1:24:12] But I do want to just confirm with the Councillor interjecting. When we go around the city and our districts

[1:24:18] And talking to the citizens, one of the things we always hear,

[1:24:22] speeding, we hear code enforcement, and we hear beautification.

[1:24:27] And this is just, obviously, this is an effort to improve that beautification.

[1:24:32] I think it was on our surveys and everything we do, people say the city looks bad.

[1:24:37] And this is just part of a plan that we keep building upon the ads or our beautification of the cities.

[1:24:43] Thank you for your efforts, sir.

[1:24:45] Absolutely. I agree with you. 100%.

[1:24:47] Thank you, sir.

[1:24:49] Thank you.

[1:24:49] I love you.

[1:24:50] You said it with that said.

[1:24:51] I'm going to call for public hearing.

[1:24:55] Public hearing is now open.

[1:24:58] Madam City Secretary, please.

[1:25:00] Call, first, proceed. There are no speakers signed up for public hearing 26, 028.

[1:25:09] Okay, thank you, ma'am. The case above the hearing is now closed.

[1:25:17] Hey, Texas,

[1:25:21] I want to, we can take a, I need a motion on this, um, consideration of the ordinance.

[1:25:27] May I vote him?

[1:25:30] Yes sir, I make a motion to approve.

[1:25:33] I make

[1:25:38] a motion to approve.

[1:25:42] pH 26.029.

[1:25:49] That's up to you.

[1:25:49] Two.

[1:25:50] Two eight.

[1:25:51] I'm sorry.

[1:25:51] Two eight.

[1:25:52] 26.028.

[1:25:57] Is there a second?

[1:25:58] Council member of Bess?

[1:25:59] I second the motion mayor.

[1:26:02] Is there any discussion?

[1:26:05] Council member?

[1:26:07] All right.

[1:26:07] There's no discussion signifier.

[1:26:10] Yes,

[1:26:13] I feel, you four, signify by yes, all opposed,

[1:26:31] no.

[1:26:31] It's in past five to one with council member Brown opposing.

[1:26:39] Thank you council.

[1:26:42] Madam City Secretary.

[1:26:48] Next item.

[1:26:49] Item 12.

[1:26:51] PH-26-029.

[1:26:54] Hold a public hearing and consider an ordinance,

[1:26:56] amending the code of ordinances, chapter 30, water, sewers, and sewage disposal to amend

[1:27:03] residential and commercial water rates and residential sewer rates.

[1:27:08] Ordnance caption reads and ordinance amending chapter 30, article 4, of the code of ordinances

[1:27:15] of the city of Killing by amending commercial and residential water rates and residential sewer

[1:27:20] providing for the repeal of conflicting provisions, providing for a savings clause, providing for a publication and an effective date.

[1:27:30] And you're on, we do have one virtual commenter, and she is waiting for the public hearing to start.

[1:27:38] Thank you.

[1:27:39] Good evening, Ms. Sengar.

[1:27:41] Good evening. Thank you, Mayor.

[1:27:43] Thank you, council members.

[1:27:44] This item is for doctor to the ordinance rate of amendments.

[1:27:49] A background on July 7, 2020, the city council received the resource of the 2020 water

[1:27:56] and sewer rate study.

[1:27:58] The study indicated that water revenues were insufficient to fully fund projected expenses

[1:28:03] to include infrastructure replacement.

[1:28:06] Recommended a five year phase approach to increase the base charge for commercial meters

[1:28:11] based on the American water work association standards for meter size capacities.

[1:28:15] Phase 1 was implemented in 2023, 2, 24, 3, and 25, phase 4 and 26, and we're doing phase 5 and 27.

[1:28:26] All of these should are revenue created by the increases that are proposed in the fiscal year to year 27.

[1:28:30] But the phase 5 of the five-year commercial water rating increase, that will create 141,752 revenue.

[1:28:39] a 5% increase to residential water base rate or meter sizes that will increase revenues by

[1:28:46] 523,726 in a 65 cents increased to residential sewer base rate that will increase revenue

[1:28:54] by 425,360.

[1:28:58] This is the water raise residential proposed increases as you can see as 5% increase across

[1:29:04] for volumetric rate will be 5% for 2,000 to 15,000, another 5% for 15 to 20,000 and 2,000

[1:29:13] gals and other will be 10%.

[1:29:18] This is the proposed increase for a water race commercial that

[1:29:21] is the phase 505 that we started in 2022 and then the amount will match in a slide that I have

[1:29:29] next, that it will be the 5-meter equivalent space in for commerce of the 2021-2020 race

[1:29:38] study.

[1:29:39] So these are the increases in 2022-22-22-24, and this is the increases for this fiscal year.

[1:29:50] For the civil race, you'll use 65 cents change for the minimum for first-degree thousand

[1:29:54] call it as the base rate for a percent ratio.

[1:30:00] And this will be a utility bill change at our residential customer that spends 5,600 gallons of water per month.

[1:30:08] We'll see a $2 increase to $0.5 increase from the current bill to the recommended rate.

[1:30:16] Increased to 0.16%.

[1:30:21] Recommendations at the city council approved the ordinance amendment in chapter 2, water stewards and sewer disposed of the code of ordinance to amend residential and commercial water and residential sewer rates.

[1:30:31] I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.

[1:30:37] Councilmember Brown.

[1:30:40] Miss Tengun.

[1:30:42] The council of previously previously, a couple months ago, approved an increase on the lateral line insurance

[1:30:50] correct.

[1:30:51] Yes, ma'am.

[1:30:52] That was another $1.50.

[1:30:55] For the warranty?

[1:30:58] That was last year.

[1:31:02] we didn't increase the issue okay I remember seeing the presentation come up

[1:31:09] though so in this 9680 is the the sewer water and sewer line warranty is

[1:31:17] that included in that 96 dollars and 80 cents

[1:31:30] does anybody missurcagal do

[1:31:32] you up and remember what that is per account now I can look it up real quick

[1:31:38] Well, someone else talks if I need to.

[1:31:40] I don't have it off the top of my head.

[1:31:41] We can look, we can look it up to you.

[1:31:44] I was just we're getting like so close to having a minimum

[1:31:48] of average, but essentially a minimum $100 bill

[1:31:53] coming into mail into people where my presumption

[1:31:58] is that this council is about to increase the tax rate

[1:32:02] And most definitely, the tax levy,

[1:32:08] we just increase another blind item on the utility

[1:32:12] bill with, will potentially, if someone has brush out there, that increases a blind item

[1:32:21] on the utility bill not automatically puts them up over $100 for that month, I'm just

[1:32:27] Service about how much we push in a single year, where we're not, nobody has that opportunity

[1:32:34] to adjust to small incremental changes.

[1:32:38] Thank you.

[1:32:41] Thank you.

[1:32:41] Is there any other questions or concerns, Council Member Kimball?

[1:32:46] Thank you, Mr. Smith.

[1:32:47] I'm just tangy on it.

[1:32:47] Are we, what percentage of meters are we have the new meters on them where we feel that,

[1:32:55] that the water is being, you know.

[1:32:58] meter at the right rate.

[1:33:01] I believe we have 15 out of 50, 15,000 out of 50,000.

[1:33:06] They're actually working.

[1:33:08] We're a pace three right now.

[1:33:11] Yeah, I do have the same concerns, council member Brown.

[1:33:16] You keep picking, you keep hitting.

[1:33:19] It's, and as we know, things are tough.

[1:33:24] And when it comes to operations and maintenance,

[1:33:28] Those prices are continually increasing and we know that the future when it comes to water and electric use in a state of Texas, I mean, there's no relief in sight.

[1:33:41] So whatever that we can do, whether it be with the new meters,

[1:33:47] the conservation, we have to find a way to help taxpayers and users.

[1:33:54] And whatever we can do with that, you know, through your office, the manager's office, but, you know, we started looking at people on, you know, this is, you know, say this is a retirement community, but it's a whole lot of retirement, it's a retired people on this diet and out there in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, it's the hall. And those who are listening and those who are going to read about this, but we, we have to find a way.

[1:34:22] to give them some relief and as council members, we're not the do our part, but we have to have water, we know that, but we still need to find a way long-term to help people out.

[1:34:38] Thank you for being up front and honest about this, but we're going to have to find a way to help people save money. Thank you, man.

[1:34:46] I completely understand if I'm a water and sewer fund, just when you guys are where it's really tight, this year for 27, we decrease the transfer for the water.

[1:35:01] So if we don't increase the rates, we won't be able to do it in our maintenance and water infrastructure.

[1:35:14] Don't you remember Williams?

[1:35:17] Yes, I'm just echo what the council member was saying here and about how hard it is now even to put it pay your bills.

[1:35:26] And so my question would be, what would this rate change mean for households that are already struggling

[1:35:31] to pay their utility bills?

[1:35:34] And do you all have some type of plan for them to pay their bills that they can't make it?

[1:35:41] We do have a senior citizens' plans on the utility collection building that they can apply for help for citizens

[1:35:51] and depending on the income, so we have a program right now running for them. Also, you did a collection manager.

[1:36:01] She is really flexible if a customer called and I want to try to do payment plan.

[1:36:07] We try to work with customers.

[1:36:09] Okay, so there is a plan for them, if they are struggling to pay the bill.

[1:36:13] The city already have a plan for them.

[1:36:15] We do payment plans. They just have to call and communicate. They will definitely help them.

[1:36:20] Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it.

[1:36:23] May I vote too?

[1:36:24] Thank you.

[1:36:25] I'm a single in your system, that's very important.

[1:36:27] I think that I just need a little clarity for the constituents.

[1:36:30] So I understand to my colleagues' point about it being tough.

[1:36:35] I totally get it.

[1:36:37] However, you mentioned that because the fund was tight,

[1:36:40] that we'd be unable to complete maintenance services,

[1:36:42] can you explain exactly what that looks like?

[1:36:44] Can you pay the picture for our constituents as to what that means to them specifically?

[1:36:51] I'll please think about what she was trying to say. We had started a few years ago,

[1:36:56] transferring about 2 million to the CIP for waterline replacement. It's not in there anymore.

[1:37:03] This 2% you see, I think everybody understands that's well below CIP, but the CIP is a basket of

[1:37:11] goods and services that are consumer-wise. We're not a normal consumer. We buy lots of things

[1:37:17] that aren't reflected in the CIP and so a municipal CIP is going to be a lot higher than 2.16.

[1:37:27] And so we balance this budget by no more money for there might be a couple hundred thousand

[1:37:32] I forget exactly what it is for water line replacement. And so we were we were very far behind

[1:37:40] we made a little progress but now we're not making progress anymore. And I just want you to remember

[1:37:46] We made this presentation. Remember the chart of all of our competitive cities and our rates worth the bottom our water is cheap

[1:37:56] In

[1:37:56] Almost you can look at larger cities smaller cities

[1:37:59] We have one of the best bargains going and not just that but the fact that we have plenty of supplies well

[1:38:07] So

[1:38:09] It's also tough to watch line breaks and watch water pour on the ground that we pulled out of the lake over in Belt and Spino

[1:38:16] the money to treat, to transfer it all the way over here, use the electricity to put it up and

[1:38:21] in the elevated storage tanks, pressurized the system, and then see it go out on the ground.

[1:38:25] So, I guess it just depends on how you want to look at it.

[1:38:29] Thank you.

[1:38:32] Don't remember Brown.

[1:38:36] July 23, 2025, the council voted to approve an increase or renew the contract with SLWA, which then

[1:38:47] put a few of increase from 50 cents per account to $1.33 per account on the utility bills.

[1:38:56] That's the insurance for the lateral water and sewer lines that go through the public right

[1:39:02] of way.

[1:39:04] I just wanted to say when I hadn't looked that part up.

[1:39:09] That is tough news, Nistangling and Mr. Kagel, that without increasing water rates, we may not be at a point where we can do any of our maintenance for the coming fiscal year.

[1:39:27] Not maintenance, water line replacement.

[1:39:29] a group of police. Thank you. Replacement. And that kind of brings me to where I guess I wanted

[1:39:36] to go with this is to Mr. Cagle's point every time we have a waterline break. That's not a couple

[1:39:44] gallons of water that we end up just discharging out into our drainage system. That's tens of thousands

[1:39:53] and depending on how large that break is that can be hundreds of thousands of gallons of water.

[1:40:00] Depending on the severity, how large that maintenance, how long it takes anybody to report it in because it's not like we have a magic ball that sees the whole city where we can tell there's a waterline break and where it is.

[1:40:17] I do think there are things that as a city we can do to cut back on that.

[1:40:22] water, our yardless, water, the parks, and in my personal pet peeve is this city

[1:40:30] pain put in street trees that we are, they also need water. All that foliage that we

[1:40:38] put to make the sides of the street is pretty, we are going to have to decide really

[1:40:41] quick. So we want the aesthetic where it's pretty or do we want to save money. And it's up

[1:40:48] to y'all to tell us which one you prefer moving forward.

[1:40:51] If you want the sides of the street, so look nicer to have those trees to have those flowers and you need to let us know that but understand that that comes with a cost and an increase in the water rates.

[1:41:04] The only way that we can afford to continue doing that if you were to prefer that we don't use that and that is the decision the council has to make every time a project comes up.

[1:41:14] But we have to be told that to you because our 2040 plan does call for street steeping, so if we're going to not abide by that thing, it has to come from the citizens.

[1:41:26] Thank you.

[1:41:29] Tell us a member of Kindex.

[1:41:38] I understand everybody's concern, but I'm kind of also with the Mayor Pro Temp.

[1:41:45] We have to understand when there comes a time when we have to replace those water lines or a main or something like that.

[1:41:52] that the do maintenance, we are still below the earmark of other cities our size.

[1:42:03] And I think on the slide that we had back in June of July, we still was about $10 under

[1:42:13] that.

[1:42:14] And I think we are doing good.

[1:42:17] It really isn't the city's fault that prices are going up on every time.

[1:42:25] The repair things, the prices are going up.

[1:42:29] And so we have to be prepared to be able to repair things,

[1:42:35] because we are not prepared to repair things.

[1:42:39] And when it happened, the first thing is going to be said you had the opportunity

[1:42:44] to make sure you had the money to do these things.

[1:42:49] And so it's a tough decision that you have to make,

[1:42:54] but it is a decision that would better for our citizens.

[1:43:00] It's tough decisions in everything that we make,

[1:43:03] but the decision is to prepare for the worst case scenario

[1:43:08] if we don't have money in there.

[1:43:10] So, that is what I want to say to my colleagues, I understand prices are going up, but we still have to prepare.

[1:43:21] We have to prepare. It does us. No justice. It does the citizens, no justice. If we are not prepared for a major incident or something that happens with our water lines. Thank you.

[1:43:39] Okay, with this no further discussion. Thank you, ma'am.

[1:43:41] Thank you.

[1:43:42] I'm going to open up the curie now, but the curie is now open to the secretary.

[1:43:52] Our virtual speaker is Heather McMillan.

[1:44:00] Good evening.

[1:44:01] Good evening.

[1:44:05] I strongly oppose the great increase for the water and sewage services.

[1:44:10] First and foremost, my opposition comes from the fact that there's possibly misappropriate

[1:44:16] usage of these funds, such as $40,000 for the drainage fund, for plants to look pretty near

[1:44:22] them all.

[1:44:24] Over $360,000 of the utility funds are allocated to KEDC for who knows what?

[1:44:32] And by the way, that doesn't include that the same nonprofit receives $80,000, $800,000

[1:44:40] from the general fund, and as also, let's not forget the money that has been given to

[1:44:45] all coervers the past few years out of these funds.

[1:44:49] If funds from the utilities were not allocated to just a few of these items, water revenue

[1:44:54] would not be insufficient and there could be maintenance this year and any other year.

[1:45:00] Or, my question is, were these types of items budgeted all along with the increases in mind?

[1:45:08] If so, be honest with the citizens of Colleen, because the examples I gave are just one drainage

[1:45:14] product project and one nonprofit using fees that you now want to increase. How many other projects

[1:45:21] and non-profits are funded the same way with these fees? You as a council of asked for accounting

[1:45:28] and accountability from some of our community partners, like FIC and IBCC, but not all community partners, you have requested this type of information from.

[1:45:40] You should be required in the same accountability and accounting from all community partners and also include city departments like water and sewer.

[1:45:48] These funds should not be used as a slush fund for whatever.

[1:45:53] As those few examples I've given you are a prime example of why you should be asking

[1:45:59] those questions starting today by asking the questions and giving citizens true transparency.

[1:46:06] Second, increasing rates on water and sewage for these types of slush funds is just wrong

[1:46:11] when not all services are even available to all residents.

[1:46:14] Now, if you want to increase rates to bring strange ditches like an onion road where a

[1:46:20] man-able died on July 4th this year and was in a coma from this injuries from unsafe

[1:46:25] conditions of a drainage area or road and streetlights at an unsafe valley road drainage area

[1:46:33] or a sys galvanized line replacements for 1300 homes to have safe drinking water or possibly

[1:46:40] set to take removal system program, or even a FEMA flood zone map to update the drainage plan

[1:46:47] to prevent many of these drainage water and sewage issues in the futures. I would not be

[1:46:51] opposed to the increase rates, because that's helping our citizens and our cities in the long run.

[1:46:58] So again, be real with me. Please tell me how does pretty plants may I have one more minute please?

[1:47:07] Yes you may. So again be real with me please. Tell me how does pretty plants by the mall and the

[1:47:16] EDC and nonprofit and a golf course help me the average citizen. Because I believe most citizens

[1:47:23] want their money to go to the don't want to go to those things either. Do not increase these rates

[1:47:29] so you all continue to have a slush fund for unnecessary items when we have real issues where those funds

[1:47:35] and fees can be used for. Thank you. I would like a quiet, I would like the answer on why we are

[1:47:41] giving EDC $360,000 extra money as a nonprofit as somebody likes to quote, they don't like to

[1:47:52] give money to nonprofits on that council. So we're giving them now over a million dollars a year.

[1:47:59] I do have a question, 360,000 extra dollars out of that.

[1:48:04] I would like an answer.

[1:48:05] Thank you.

[1:48:08] Thank you, man.

[1:48:09] Put your comments.

[1:48:11] Madam, city secretary.

[1:48:14] There are no other speakers for this public hearing.

[1:48:18] Yes, no other.

[1:48:19] Okay.

[1:48:20] With that said.

[1:48:23] But the hearing is close.

[1:48:27] Council, I would entertain a motion to consider the ordinance.

[1:48:31] Councilmember Bess.

[1:48:37] I make a motion that the City Council approved the ordinance

[1:48:40] demanding chapter 30 water sewers and sewer disposal disposal of the code of

[1:48:47] ordinances to amend residential and commercial water and residential sewer

[1:48:51] rates as presented. Is there a second Councilmember Williams?

[1:48:57] that

[1:49:00] second. Is there any discussion?

[1:49:05] Councilmember Brown.

[1:49:11] Mr. Cable, can you explain why we take funds from the water department and give them to KEDC please?

[1:49:18] Well, I can answer that, but there was a lot of mathematical problems in the statements that were made.

[1:49:23] But that was accurate about 360,000 comes out of the water and sewer fund. And when this was started, I don't know how long ago that gates ago.

[1:49:33] The idea was the general fund and the water fund were the two largest funds in the city and both benefit from economic development so they both shared.

[1:49:41] There's more that comes out of the general fund than the water and sewer fund, but that's the basic concept.

[1:49:49] What benefit does the economic development bring to the water fund?

[1:49:54] More customers.

[1:49:58] I mean, very respectfully.

[1:50:00] I say more customers and more revenue but also more expense.

[1:50:03] Sure. Yeah. You asked me where I thought this came from. It's been done for decades. I gave you

[1:50:09] the best answer I've got. Realistically, there's a different place that we can get KDC money from

[1:50:18] rather than, well, let me back that up. How is it that we're allows even see money from an enterprise

[1:50:28] fund and put it into a non-governmental use?

[1:50:34] Well, it is a governmental use.

[1:50:35] KADC is the city of Kaly.

[1:50:38] I'm sorry, a non-operational.

[1:50:41] Well, I would argue that it is operational, as opposed to, if you're talking about operations

[1:50:46] in capital, that's operations, economic development.

[1:50:49] Just as if we had, if KADC didn't exist, and we had an economic development, apartment

[1:50:55] in the city, it would be fun to be funded out of the general fund and the utility fund.

[1:51:00] could be. And I promise I'm not trying to

[1:51:05] talk to you. I just don't see how KDC is an operation of water and sewer within the city.

[1:51:13] And in the budget, it's listed under the non-operational breakdown of costs.

[1:51:20] I understand what you're saying, but I was looking at it differently,

[1:51:22] operations in capital.

[1:51:25] No, it can all come from the general fund if that's what you want.

[1:51:29] Okay, I just wanted to give our citizen an answer as to the money coming out of the water fund.

[1:51:38] And money is not going to buy pretty plants by the mall from the water fund.

[1:51:42] Money is not going to the golf course from the water fund.

[1:51:45] No, but to a point, she did say that the foliage or the plants came out of the drainage fund.

[1:51:52] Yeah, we're talking about the water and sewer fund.

[1:51:54] Correct, but she did specify out of the drainage fund.

[1:51:57] Thank you.

[1:52:01] Okay, if there's no other discussion on all in favor of the emotion and signify by saying yes those opposed no

[1:52:18] motion pass five to

[1:52:23] One with the council member Brown opposing

[1:52:27] Thank you

[1:52:29] We're going to take a

[1:52:32] We

[1:52:58] call the meeting back to order,

[1:53:03] Madam City Secretary, the next item budget, we will now go into items that related to our budget and tax rate.

[1:53:17] It is a public hearing and only on the tax rate.

[1:53:22] I had a 13-P-H-2-6-030 hold a public hearing on proposed tax rate for the fiscal year beginning October 1,

[1:53:34] 2026 and ending September 30th, 2027.

[1:53:41] Oh, again, Mr. Kabel.

[1:53:42] Mayor, Council.

[1:53:43] So I get the pleasure of standing up and talking about everybody's favorite topic, taxes.

[1:53:50] And just a little bit, a little bit of commentary, there are no good taxes, nobody likes

[1:53:57] taxes.

[1:54:00] But we're funded basically by the property tax, and where there's property or whatever it

[1:54:06] is, the best tax is one that's a very low rate that everybody pays.

[1:54:13] And that way you get good compliance when it's a low rate, most people pay.

[1:54:17] But what we've done in Texas is state and local governments funded really three ways income taxes property taxes sales taxes.

[1:54:26] We don't have any income tax, nothing wrong with that.

[1:54:29] Typically means your property and your sales taxes are going to be a little higher.

[1:54:35] But then we've taken that another step forward and given many, many exemptions and I'm not just talking about the veterans exemption,

[1:54:44] not even going to talk about that tonight, but there are lots of other exemptions that

[1:54:49] the state gives out, that state doesn't let me a property tax, but they give out lots

[1:54:56] of tax abatements.

[1:54:57] So that means the group of people that actually...

[1:55:00] Pay taxes are getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And so I like to complain about taxes too, but that's one of the big reasons that that's such a big topic in Texas is because what we're doing to people is, we have decided that the wealthiest segment of our society, those over 65, you can go to the census, dad and see it.

[1:55:24] that they can't pay their taxes so we got a freeze and we're exempted and the state's

[1:55:29] bragging today about how many people now pay zero property taxes. But when you've got so many

[1:55:35] people that are frozen the wealthiest segment that does Jerry Jones really need a property tax

[1:55:40] price on his house in Holland Park. That means there's a certain segment of society that's going to

[1:55:46] be paying a lot. Now we're talking about our taxes so we got to talk about that all that other

[1:55:51] enough to give, and that was just my frustration and commentary with the way we're doing things.

[1:56:00] We don't provide, and we'll talk about the budget in a minute, but regards the tax rate,

[1:56:05] which funds that budget.

[1:56:06] We don't provide a lot of extravagant services, we're not into social services.

[1:56:10] Very, very small.

[1:56:11] We've talked a whole lot about homeless services, but that's about all we do as far as social

[1:56:17] services.

[1:56:18] we're the basics. We fund police, and fire, and streets, and then to a much lesser extent

[1:56:26] parks and wreck and libraries, and that's pretty much our general fund. And it's funded

[1:56:32] primarily by property tax and sales tax. And so we're now to this calendar. It says the budget

[1:56:38] calendar. It's also the tax rate calendar. And you see we started back in February and now we're

[1:56:43] September 1st and we're having this public hearing on the proposed tax rate.

[1:56:49] You know, our current rate is here.

[1:56:53] It's set 0.7014.

[1:56:58] Now, the state has a lot of laws and regulations.

[1:57:01] And they've determined what a no new revenue rate is the rate that generates the same tax revenue as the prior year from properties taxed in both years.

[1:57:11] And that's a very sliding increase at 0.7048.

[1:57:18] Our proposed rate is 0.7215.

[1:57:21] That's the rate we've used to develop this budget.

[1:57:26] And then it was amended.

[1:57:28] And then the voter approval rate is 7302.

[1:57:32] If we go above that, it triggers an automatic election.

[1:57:36] The tax rate that I'm recommending tonight is 0.7301.

[1:57:42] You can adopt the tax rate that's lower than that, but you can't go higher without

[1:57:47] starting a new process and that would take us to the end of September.

[1:57:54] From our certified role that you see the similar numbers, what's being proposed?

[1:58:00] the 0.7301 is an increase of 0.0287 and what does that mean? Well, let me look at historically.

[1:58:12] You can see in 2021, 2022, 23, 24 when property rates property values really started going up.

[1:58:21] We did reduce the rate and we were under some of those state mandated rates for quite a while.

[1:58:29] We're still not up to the 20 high, but as has been said before, property values are a lot higher now.

[1:58:38] I just think this shows we've tried to do the best we can with the tax rate in the past since 2019.

[1:58:50] So the recommended preliminary rate of 73.01 generates a levy.

[1:58:58] of $78,207,959, which would provide a balanced, which would meet the requirements of the budget.

[1:59:08] If we adopt a tax rate that's lower than that, we're going to have to make some budget reductions.

[1:59:15] tax payer impact. So in 26, these are the these are the current numbers and the proposed numbers for fiscal year 2027. And that would be a difference on the median homestead value. Now, the state uses two different terms in two different ways. I'll show you that. Number one is the median. That's if you list all the values.

[1:59:45] from the lowest of the highest, the one right in the middle.

[1:59:48] No, I'm sorry, that is the median.

[1:59:51] That's the median, it's the one that's right in the middle.

[1:59:53] And so that is would be an increase of $237.

[1:59:58] I'm sorry, on the value.

[2:00:00] We back up the estimated city tax bill would be an increase of $68.48 or $5.71 a month.

[2:00:12] The reason I talked about this number is because when we do an advertisement, I'll show you here

[2:00:17] in a minute, they say use the mean, which is the average. Sometimes those two are close and sometimes

[2:00:24] they can be very far apart. I don't think that was done intentionally. It just happened and

[2:00:31] so

[2:00:33] on our notice, when we had to put the notice in the paper, I can't enlarge this, but if you

[2:00:40] can see it down here, you can see right there, right there, it says average. That's me. That's the

[2:00:48] average. You take all the values and you average them up and you get some slightly different

[2:00:52] numbers. So I just want everybody to know, we're doing what the state tells us to. It just

[2:00:57] sometimes doesn't make a lot of sense.

[2:01:04] Let me go back.

[2:01:05] And so,

[2:01:09] that's the proposed tax rate,

[2:01:11] and we have a public hearing tonight,

[2:01:12] but I'd be happy to answer any questions

[2:01:14] before the hearing that you might have.

[2:01:18] Big council, council member Brown.

[2:01:23] Just to make sure I have a correct,

[2:01:26] you said I approximately one cent on the tax rate

[2:01:29] is a million dollars in revenue to the city.

[2:01:31] Yes, man, it's a tiny bit,

[2:01:32] I don't have the exact number, but yes,

[2:01:34] that I would say that, yes.

[2:01:35] Thank you.

[2:01:40] Nice king. What's the record show there?

[2:01:43] Can I have some over there, excuse me?

[2:01:45] Yes, sir. I was there.

[2:01:49] Mr. Cagle, thank you.

[2:01:51] And the finance team for your hard work and council.

[2:01:55] We have gone over this a lot and gave a lot of input on it.

[2:02:00] There is a need and I can understand the residents,

[2:02:04] concerned and reference to and reality.

[2:02:07] No one wants their taxes.

[2:02:09] right. But I don't know how we can get around to continue to provide the services that are

[2:02:17] necessary to keep our city afloat. Some of the biggest things I know the council was

[2:02:24] concerned about. The incentives to pay, thank insurance. We want to ensure that our employees

[2:02:29] are taking care of because they work extremely hard. And the things that I really care about

[2:02:34] We'll save the first correct, save the sheer comfort, but it's also the quality of life when it comes to the basic services that we provide that I noticed that some cities do not even provide those services.

[2:02:48] We go beyond like if we give the brush on the streets stuff like that, we try to go and pick it up and try to help out move big furniture, even though there's a fee to that now.

[2:02:58] Why is that? Because it has to be in order for us to continue to operate and the maintenance

[2:03:05] on our vehicles, our employees. They want more employees. Yes, we all want more. We need more

[2:03:11] employees, but it comes with a price. So I'm just grateful that we are the council, we the council

[2:03:18] have really have this deep discussion and that and to listen to the residents. And I know

[2:03:24] the residents still have some concerns, but if there is a magic wand that we can have to come up with a

[2:03:31] solution that is function or for everyone, I think we would have used that wand by now. So with the best

[2:03:39] we could do with the resources we have, thank you all. And I picked on Jerry Jones, but I turned 65 this year,

[2:03:47] So, I don't know why my taxes are frozen either.

[2:03:53] Go to member of Kimball, Mr. Mayor.

[2:03:58] Hey, Mr. Kayg, if you could, can you give me an explanation, you tell me why the average

[2:04:05] in the mean is different, but the total tax level that that's different from, sure, at

[2:04:15] numbers should be the same, right?

[2:04:17] No, but because we're going to have the tax rate on the total taxable base.

[2:04:23] That's, that's going to be the same.

[2:04:25] But what the state has said is, how does that impact an average homeowner?

[2:04:33] But they use two different terms.

[2:04:35] One, they said use the average and one, they said use the median.

[2:04:40] So, for instance, the estimated city tax bill using the median home-stead value is $1699.

[2:04:53] And if I go over here to the ad, where we used the average, it is...

[2:05:01] 1681, that would have been fine. I can barely see it. 1,770. So using the mean, the numbers 1,770, and using the median,

[2:05:15] it's 1,699. Not a huge difference, but I just want people to know these are not mistakes. We're following the law.

[2:05:22] But the total tax levy is $4 million, do you understand?

[2:05:28] No, sir, let me go back.

[2:05:30] Our total levy is 78 million, 207,959.

[2:05:43] That's the taxes.

[2:05:45] When you add up all the commercial, all the residential,

[2:05:48] multi-family, everything on the tax rate. This number is, is, is, what's

[2:05:57] advertised in the papers as 74 million, 74,

[2:06:03] 6. Let me go back to that.

[2:06:05] It's going the wrong way.

[2:06:15] It is. So,

[2:06:24] we don't get to do this calculation, it's the

[2:06:29] a praise on the district that does that but

[2:06:36] this is ours that's for me now

[2:06:41] well we know

[2:06:45] what our taxable value is and we know what the rate is I'll just say there've been a lot

[2:06:53] of issues over there this year

[2:07:00] so for the sake of this conversation we're going off we'll

[2:07:04] Yes, sir. This is doing the proposed 2027 number with a total levy of 78 to 70 million. Yes, sir.

[2:07:16] That's all right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[2:07:19] Come on.

[2:07:20] Mr.

[2:07:25] Google, just for clarity, say, on this again.

[2:07:29] So when you're looking at these two different numbers, are we saying?

[2:07:31] I know you said the appraisal district gives you no choice there to calculate that way on the average versus the median.

[2:07:39] And so would this average then be considered the worst case scenario based on the formula

[2:07:44] and then what we're looking at with the median as our actual, based on what we know our

[2:07:49] average home prices are?

[2:07:52] Well, the numbers we're talking about are what an average or the median that the what they would

[2:08:03] pay.

[2:08:03] So,

[2:08:08] I believe the numbers that we have here are correct on the estimated tax bill, as well

[2:08:24] as these numbers, the average homestead tax on the, I can't get the line right, but the tax

[2:08:33] on the average homestead, that's, I believe that is correct too.

[2:08:38] And so to the folks that are listening at home, if the council does approve the

[2:08:45] .7301 recommended rate, they are on average looking at approximately $5.71

[2:08:53] monthly as an increase, $5.71 on their tax bill.

[2:08:58] Yes, ma'am.

[2:08:59] Thank you.

[2:09:00] You're welcome. Thank you.

[2:09:07] Council member, bro.

[2:09:08] I was trying to get the microphone to come up.

[2:09:11] OK.

[2:09:12] I apologize for circling back to this one more time.

[2:09:17] On the one we're saying right now, that doesn't account for

[2:09:23] if we have twice as many homes that cost a half a million dollars

[2:09:28] than we do that costs $50,000.

[2:09:32] So it just says this is the exact middle point in your housing market correct the median

[2:09:42] Yes, okay, and then on the other one where it's our average home price that takes

[2:09:49] Every single property adds it together

[2:09:52] devise it by that total number and that on average each person pays that now some people if you're how

[2:10:00] House is only valued at $100,000, you're going to pay a lot less than this. If your house is valued at $600,000, you're going to pay a lot more than that. Right. Right. And then when we do the budget, correct me if I'm wrong, you take that tax rate and you multiply it out by the certified tax rules to come up with how much revenue goes into the budget.

[2:10:24] Correct. I just hope that helps to clarify some of our citizens who are watching. Thank you.

[2:10:36] There's any other discussion. There's no other discussion.

[2:10:41] Yes, sir.

[2:10:44] We said that I'm going to open up public hearing now is open.

[2:10:51] Madam City Secretary.

[2:10:57] Yes, sir. The first speaker is Michael Fernino.

[2:10:59] comment

[2:11:14] was made, don't know how to cut back things. We're words to that effect.

[2:11:21] How many things in this city, all this last two years, as I mentioned before, we've

[2:11:27] got road projects that are languishing. How much money did we spend on that and how much

[2:11:32] money are we spending further on projects that are behind schedule and over budget? We don't

[2:11:37] need to send people to AUSA every year. Little things like that in the aggregate, it all adds up.

[2:11:45] We're no danger, but as Mr. Kagels said about sales tax, alright. People can't spend what they don't earn.

[2:11:52] I've used this example time and time again.

[2:11:56] What's the most expensive watch you can buy in Kaleen?

[2:12:00] What's the most expensive the nicest car you can buy in Kaleen?

[2:12:05] We're no danger of having Ethan Allen open up a store in this town. Why?

[2:12:10] Why?

[2:12:10] Because that's a reflection of our buying power, our buying power is tied to our earning

[2:12:15] power.

[2:12:17] If we could have a decent wage where our tax money keeps going to places like the EDC,

[2:12:23] that we never see any benefit of, we never get a choice as people, where there's almost

[2:12:27] million dollars a year, year over, year goes, we don't have any say in it, what to develop.

[2:12:33] We're just taking their word for it.

[2:12:37] That's all of our money.

[2:12:38] We have nothing to show from the EDC.

[2:12:41] Where'd it be? The grocery store? Think back. I realized it's going back in history, but

[2:12:46] Imagine what this town would have looked like if we had had the Dell headquarters and Toyota building pick up trucks here

[2:12:53] Imagine the economic power and that triad right there the fort Toyota and Dell

[2:12:58] Imagine what this town would look like now

[2:13:01] Time after time I say this council this body

[2:13:06] Lacks over the horizon thinking.

[2:13:08] Get correct that.

[2:13:09] We're never going to get a Dell or Toyota.

[2:13:13] Everybody's worried about their own little piece of the pie around here.

[2:13:16] When it comes to taxation, we need to get a break.

[2:13:20] We have to adjust our budget.

[2:13:22] Every time the taxes and the fees go up, the street maintenance fee,

[2:13:25] which is a tax by a different name, street maintenance.

[2:13:29] Yeah, I get the street sweeper down my street from time to time.

[2:13:31] But I get to see anybody actually repaving it, resurfacing it, main painting it, maintenance around here seems to be less weight until the road falls apart, and then we get to spend

[2:13:41] 18, 20, 25 million dollars to rebuild the road. And then we do that.

[2:13:47] It takes forever, it goes over cost, over schedule, tighten your budgets, not ours.

[2:13:54] that's that's just common sense I don't have to be Milton Friedman or Thomas

[2:13:59] soul or a bit any big economic theorist to know this there's too many

[2:14:04] projects too many things are being spent furvelously tighten up the city's

[2:14:08] budget not ours I'm sick of it I mean look around I mean if we were such a

[2:14:14] powerhouse tax money went to that museum that was promised millions upon millions

[2:14:17] of people are going to come here where they are not spending money here

[2:14:24] madam

[2:14:26] Second speaker is Dr. Sue Nisecroft.

[2:14:43] I'm standing at this podium tonight

[2:14:45] because our city is trapped in a destructive financial loop.

[2:14:49] From multiple physical cycles,

[2:14:52] we have watts, a repetitive pattern,

[2:14:54] play out early warnings about structural deficits

[2:14:57] I present it, but instead of time.

[2:15:00] In our operational belt, we paper over the cracks we shuffle funds, expand long-term debt liabilities, and pass late night budget amendments that add millions in permanent payroll costs.

[2:15:14] Then we turn around and ask our homeowners of the city to pick up the tap through higher property taxes.

[2:15:21] We are told that our hands are tied because the state mandated veterans exemptions the drain that drain over 13 million annually from our taxpayer.

[2:15:31] That revenue loss is a real significant hurdle, but the state shortfall does not use our own lack of internal spending discipline.

[2:15:40] During past visex cycles, our city manager explicitly warned this body that the journal fund was stretched to

[2:15:48] his absolute limit with zero room for extra spending. Yet the council still voted to tack on millions and late amendments.

[2:15:56] Adding that extra 1% cola creating multiple unbudgeted administrative roles in prioritizing non-essential static projects like the million dollar bridge painting.

[2:16:08] We cannot keep treating a permanent structural spending crisis as a temporary revenue problem.

[2:16:18] Passing a budget that relies on squeezing local families up to a higher tax rate is unsustainable and unfair.

[2:16:26] Fortunately, you have the immediate power to fix this without waiting for an lengthy charter election.

[2:16:32] election. You can take the easy way by voting tonight to amend our act to financial governance policies.

[2:16:40] I'm accessing this council to introduce the resolution to add to critical binding

[2:16:45] safe guard rails to section V of our budget rules. First implement a strict pay as you go offset mandate.

[2:16:53] If any council member wants to oppose a late stage budget addition or create a new municipal position,

[2:17:00] They must legally identify and equally recurrent spending cut from a non-essential department

[2:17:07] in the exact same vote.

[2:17:09] No more adding unbutited costs out of the thin air.

[2:17:14] Second, establish a automatic, unassigned, fun, balanced stabilizer.

[2:17:19] If our emergency cast reserves drop below our mandated 18% floor and automatic physical freeze,

[2:17:26] must trigger instantly. This will remove political discretion and immediately halt non-essential

[2:17:32] city hiring out of state travel and discretionary civic contracts until our safety net is naturally

[2:17:40] restored to 22%. With local elections approaching the city of Colleen are watching closely to

[2:17:47] Who may have an additional minute,

[2:17:53] please?

[2:17:54] Yes, you may.

[2:17:55] Watching closely, who will champion true taxpayer transparency?

[2:18:00] Do not pass the buck to the voters or face a force us to use petition drive

[2:18:06] to strip away your spending authority.

[2:18:09] Use your legislative power right now to enforce structural balance.

[2:18:13] And then our physical governance policy absorb our revenue shortfalls through internal administrative discipline and protect cling home on from future property tax heights.

[2:18:27] I have attached through this thingy right here that I spoke with you about language that you can automatically insert or modify into our financial governance standards and the city secretary.

[2:18:42] secretary has a copy of that. The 494. Thank you for your listening.

[2:18:52] Thank you Madam City's Secretary.

[2:18:56] There are no more speakers. Okay.

[2:19:03] There's no more speakers than we will put the hearing

[2:19:06] is closed.

[2:19:10] All right. Madam City's Secretary, the next item, please.

[2:19:16] Next item number 14.

[2:19:18] O-R-2-6-016, consider an ordinance adopting the annual budget for the City of Killing for the fiscal year beginning October 1,

[2:19:28] 2026, an ending September 30, 2027, the ordinance caption reads, an ordinance approving an adopting a budget for the operating of the municipal government of the City of Killing for the fiscal year beginning on October 1,

[2:19:44] 2026, and ending on September 30, 2027, appropriating money for the various funds and purposes

[2:19:52] of such budget, including appropriations of money to pay interest and principles, seeking

[2:19:59] thinking fine.

[2:20:00] Requirements on all indebtedness, providing a savings and civility clause, repealing all ordinances

[2:20:06] and appropriations and conflict with the provisions of this ordinance and establishing an effective

[2:20:12] date.

[2:20:15] Thank you. Thank you, Councillor. Thank you, Mayor. This presentation is kind of brief,

[2:20:22] straightforward. It's just to work you guys to to voting to the budget and tax rate. So as

[2:20:29] You see the budget calendar, Mr. Kegu already are present here for the proposed tax rate.

[2:20:35] Now, we're going to go to the ordinance to adopt the fiscal year 2017 budget

[2:20:39] to identify the appropriate tax revenue increase and to set the tax rate.

[2:20:45] And after that, we're going to look at the CIP.

[2:20:49] The required order will be we're going to record both on budget first,

[2:20:53] then we're going to ask you guys to verify the appropriate tax increase.

[2:20:57] And then we're going to record the vote on certain tax rate.

[2:21:02] This is the fiscal year 2017 proposed by just summary that includes the changes that we did in the prior meetings.

[2:21:11] And this is just to record the vote on your budget for fiscal year 2017.

[2:21:22] Questions?

[2:21:24] Yes, Council.

[2:21:26] May my best.

[2:21:31] Thank you, Mayor.

[2:21:32] As I have stated previously, I favor the no new revenue rate, however.

[2:21:39] This budget presented by Mr. Cagel is a solid budget that will deliver the services our

[2:21:44] residents expect and need.

[2:21:47] I disagree with a few line items, but the budget itself is very professional, well-constructed

[2:21:54] budget.

[2:21:55] I will be voting yes on this really great product.

[2:21:59] Thank you.

[2:21:59] the

[2:22:06] comments. Okay. On that case I will take a motion to consider the ordinance.

[2:22:15] I'm sorry.

[2:22:22] There's not a public hearing on the ordn on this ordinance, correct? There's a public hearing on the tax rate.

[2:22:31] Which we already had? Tell some member. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor Council. I'm moved to approval.

[2:22:39] There are second. Council member Kentrix.

[2:22:44] I second.

[2:22:46] Okay. Is there any discussion?

[2:22:51] We're in discussion council member Williams.

[2:22:56] Okay.

[2:22:57] There's no discussion all in favor of seeing the five by saying yes.

[2:23:02] All opposed no.

[2:23:15] The motion pass six.

[2:23:18] We need to take a roll call vote on this.

[2:23:20] So you're secretary. Yes, I can read that from from this if you'd prefer that instead of me calling the names

[2:23:30] I think historically people if we can just go ahead and and to roll out with the we call the

[2:23:38] David Bass

[2:23:41] Yes

[2:23:42] Melissa Brown

[2:23:45] No, Jessica Gonzalez yes Anthony Kendrick yes Charles Kimball. Yes

[2:23:52] Debbie Nash King and Beverly Ann Williams.

[2:23:57] Yes. Thank you.

[2:24:06] It has a six to zero.

[2:24:11] Council member.

[2:24:14] I mean, six to one.

[2:24:16] Council member Brown opposing.

[2:24:21] Okay. Is this thing a word?

[2:24:25] Okay. The next item will be to verify the appropriate tax increase for local government code.

[2:24:31] I wanted 2.007C, a separate boat is required to modify any property tax revenue increase over the prior year.

[2:24:39] The total tax revenue increase is 1.70042,897.

[2:24:44] And you can see the emino and INS are very down in here.

[2:24:50] And now we wait for both to modify property tax increase.

[2:24:55] Okay, I'm Council, I would take a motion.

[2:25:00] Council member Kimber. Mr. Mayor, I move that the property tax rate being increased by the adoption of the tax rate of 0.7301, which is effectively at 3.5, 9% increase in the tax rate.

[2:25:19] Can you say a second?

[2:25:21] Council member Williams?

[2:25:22] I seconded.

[2:25:24] I will be in put discussion.

[2:25:28] Council member Brown?

[2:25:33] Yeah.

[2:25:34] If there is no discussion,

[2:25:36] Secretary Secretary will call please.

[2:25:50] Council member Bass?

[2:25:51] No.

[2:25:55] Council member Brown?

[2:25:57] No.

[2:26:00] Council member Gonzalez?

[2:26:07] Yes, thank you.

[2:26:10] Council member Kendrick?

[2:26:11] Yes.

[2:26:14] Council member Kimble?

[2:26:15] Yes.

[2:26:16] Councilmember Nash King.

[2:26:20] Councilmember Williams.

[2:26:27] Okay.

[2:26:28] Five to two.

[2:26:30] Oh, she passed five to two.

[2:26:31] Thank you, council.

[2:26:33] Okay.

[2:26:34] Is that

[2:26:39] what's the right if I think we separate tax rate?

[2:26:43] Now, this is detected.

[2:26:44] That's tax rate.

[2:26:46] Uh,

[2:26:48] yes, ma'am.

[2:26:51] I'm sorry.

[2:26:51] Madam Secretary.

[2:26:52] That's okay.

[2:26:53] I was asked enough.

[2:26:55] My apologies.

[2:26:56] Item 16.

[2:26:57] R-26-017, consider an ordinance, setting a tax rate of 0.7301 per $100 valuation, comprised

[2:27:08] of 0.5562 for maintenance and operations, and 0.1739 for debt service for fiscal year

[2:27:17] 2027, tax year 2026 with ordinance caption reading and ordinance, setting the tax rate

[2:27:25] and levying attacks upon all property, subject to taxation

[2:27:28] within city limits of the city of Killing for the 2026 tax year

[2:27:37] and for the use and support of the municipal government

[2:27:40] of the city of Killing for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2026

[2:27:44] and ending September 30, 2027,

[2:27:48] a portioning said levying among the various funds and items

[2:27:51] for which the revenue must be raised,

[2:27:53] including providing a sinking fund for the retirement of the bonded debt of the city and establishing an effect ever date.

[2:28:01] Is anyone?

[2:28:03] Yes.

[2:28:03] Thank you.

[2:28:05] This has to set the tax rate.

[2:28:06] The total tax rate is 73.01.

[2:28:10] That it will do a budget of revenue of 78.2 million.

[2:28:17] You guys saw this as fly in the previous presentation.

[2:28:22] This is an increase of 68, 48 dollars a year for a medium homestead value of 202,

[2:28:31] 1822.

[2:28:33] This is in the tax rate for tax code 206.5B, if the tax rate exceeds, then on your revenue rate,

[2:28:39] I record about as required.

[2:28:41] I provide at least 60% of council by members and the motions last state and we have the

[2:28:51] I'm going to come back to it and now I'll wait to record both on tax rate.

[2:28:59] Okay, I'm here for a term. I'll take the motion to consider the ordinance.

[2:29:08] I make a motion to approve. I'm sorry. I move that the property tax rate be increased by the adoption

[2:29:16] of a tax rate of .7301 which is effectively a 3.59% increase in the tax rate.

[2:29:27] was it can a council member Williamson?

[2:29:33] That's second it.

[2:29:37] Madam's second to I could take a roll call please.

[2:29:48] Councilmember Bass.

[2:29:50] No.

[2:29:51] Councilmember Brown.

[2:29:54] Councilmember Mayor Pro Tim Gonzalez.

[2:29:58] Councilmember Kendrick.

[2:30:00] Yes. Council member Kimble. Yes. Council member Nash King. Yes. Council member Williams. Yes. Motion passes five to two.

[2:30:13] Thank you, council. Is that going?

[2:30:29] Item 17. So I met him, secretary. 17? Item 17. R S-26-135. Consider a memorandum resolution to adopt the five year capital

[2:30:42] program for fiscal year 2027 through 2031.

[2:30:50] Yes, ma'am.

[2:30:51] Thank you again.

[2:30:51] This is this item is for fiscal year 2027 proposed CIP,

[2:30:56] adoption of the fire capital improvement program for fiscal year 2027 to 2021.

[2:31:01] This is our last item for the budget for 2027.

[2:31:08] The background, the annual five years CIP required a capital project policies

[2:31:12] It's based on master plans and departmental needs, new projects and additional funding for ongoing projects.

[2:31:20] It has equipment vehicles, facilities, and infrastructures of our 100,000 and the projects summarized by type and fund asserts.

[2:31:29] This is the CIP summary by type.

[2:31:30] We have a total of 97 approaches that include vehicles and equipments with a total amount of 47.5 million.

[2:31:40] This is the CIP summary. By funding source, we have government of CIP, CBDG,

[2:31:46] bone funds, ABS and CIP in ground funds, water and sewer CIP, bone impact feed funds,

[2:31:52] solid waste CIP fund, tiered fund, and drainage CIP fund.

[2:31:58] This is the project funding by sources.

[2:32:01] You can see we use in fund balance, grant reimbursement programs and bones.

[2:32:05] In a recommendation, the city comes from a doctor, fire, capital improvement program

[2:32:09] for fiscal year 2020, 2020, 2021.

[2:32:11] I would be happy to answer any questions that may have.

[2:32:14] Any questions?

[2:32:15] Tell some member Kimball.

[2:32:20] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[2:32:22] Mr. Tang, what are the projects for water

[2:32:25] and sewer entrainage?

[2:32:27] There's nine of them.

[2:32:28] Do you know what they are?

[2:32:29] We have the book posted and online.

[2:32:33] I don't have the book right now with me.

[2:32:40] Tell some member Kim Jong-un.

[2:32:46] Mayor, I don't have a, for a say, question.

[2:32:49] and I have a statement, can I make a statement?

[2:32:53] You may?

[2:32:54] OK, I want to say this, and I wanted to be on the record.

[2:33:01] We talk about the things that we are trying to do for the citizens

[2:33:05] and for the betterment of the citizens of Colleen.

[2:33:11] And I find it very disheartening to sit here

[2:33:17] we talk about the betterment of the city and I'm not complaining about which way you voted,

[2:33:27] but some of these things we're talking about the citizens and honestly it's just me speaking

[2:33:40] When people are planning on people's emotions and doing other things besides what is better for the betterment of the city.

[2:33:51] And I feel I must make this statement for the simple fact that anything that I vote on I look at it and I make this statement.

[2:34:00] I make the decision put a bit of the citizens not a political statement on one side of the other.

[2:34:10] And I feel like some things were made that way tonight.

[2:34:14] And it's very disheartening that we're not thinking about the citizens and the things that we need to do as a council

[2:34:21] to ensure all of our citizens, not just the ones that think one way, but all of the citizens.

[2:34:28] And that's all I have there.

[2:34:32] Okay.

[2:34:34] Council member Brown.

[2:34:37] I'm going to bring us back to the agenda.

[2:34:39] This is not a public hearing correct.

[2:34:43] But that I moved to approve RS-26-135.

[2:34:51] Okay.

[2:34:53] We had a procedure for COVID.

[2:34:57] Okay.

[2:34:57] I apologize.

[2:34:58] I'll send it to them.

[2:35:02] Go ahead, motion is in and point, yes. So I moved to approve RS-26-135.

[2:35:14] Is there a second council member Nash King? Is there a new discussion? Council member Kimble.

[2:35:22] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I found the five eyes that I did look at. I just, just for the records, I know based on what council member

[2:35:29] can't fix it. They were the, um, particularly when it comes to the long branch part improvements

[2:35:34] things that we have talked about the low water crossing. Uh, we talked about water, the water,

[2:35:39] uh, be the replacement that I brought up earlier, the 195. Those are all things that, again,

[2:35:44] that all citizens could take advantage. I'm glad that when we look at, um, our five year, uh,

[2:35:52] project and plans that we're looking at things that's really going to hopefully improve our water

[2:35:58] So we're so, I found it. Thank you.

[2:36:03] Is there any other discussion?

[2:36:05] There's no other discussion.

[2:36:09] Tell some of them about.

[2:36:13] One point of clarification is the IP funds are not coming out of the FY27 tax dollars that we bring it in correct?

[2:36:22] No.

[2:36:22] The CIP funds are already in there for excess fund balance.

[2:36:26] And then we have any leg vehicle replacement that is included in the budget already.

[2:36:34] Thank you.

[2:36:35] That's all I wanted to clarify.

[2:36:37] Yes, ma'am.

[2:36:42] Okay.

[2:36:43] Councilor Mayor, approve, too.

[2:36:45] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[2:36:46] It looks like we have a motion in a second on the floor to vote.

[2:36:49] And consider the ordinance per tax code 26.050B.

[2:36:58] If the tax rate exceeds the no new revenue rate, a record vote is required.

[2:37:04] Approval, by at least 60% of the council, five members must state required wording.

[2:37:11] That is, I move that property tax rate being increased by the adoption of the tax rate.

[2:37:16] Oh, we heard it.

[2:37:17] That's it. Thank you.

[2:37:19] Council.

[2:37:21] What would you like to do?

[2:37:24] Okay, so all in papers tell some members asking yes, thank you Mr. Mayor I just have a quick question

[2:37:34] When you said that the excess funds for this project I thought we had more than that

[2:37:41] Well, what I'm trying to say was if you see

[2:37:46] Let's see if I can make this work.

[2:37:48] Thank you.

[2:37:49] Let's see.

[2:37:50] When you look at the CIP summary of our funding source,

[2:37:55] we have more of a CIP there in the aviation CIP.

[2:37:59] What is the CIP?

[2:38:01] All those funds are funded by Exles Fund Balance.

[2:38:04] So all the projects that are in there is Exles Fund Balance

[2:38:07] on this fund.

[2:38:09] But we do have all the projects like the replacement vehicles

[2:38:12] where we brought for money in there for public safety.

[2:38:17] Yes, ma'am.

[2:38:18] Thank you. That's the part.

[2:38:19] Okay. Thank you.

[2:38:25] Yes.

[2:38:25] There's no other discussion. All in favor of signify bus and yes, all opposed.

[2:38:37] Motion passed 70.

[2:38:40] Okay. Thank you.

[2:38:42] Madam Secretary.

[2:38:45] Discussion item.

[2:38:46] Number 18, DS-26-07079, Discuss and Consider Scheduling a City Council retreat and team building workshop.

[2:38:59] And thank you, Ms. Tenglin. Thank you for that presentation. Mr. Kagele?

[2:39:05] Yes, our Mayor Council. The Mayor asked me about this to look into what it would take to have a council workshop team building.

[2:39:14] and there was never any discussion from the mayor back going out of town. In fact, he had

[2:39:19] already lined up some free space at CTC. What I did, I went back and looked back in 2021.

[2:39:27] We had a proposal from Coleman and Associates to do the same thing and roughly stay

[2:39:33] in town as well. No money going outside of town. What the mayor had discussed was a day or

[2:39:40] a little less than a day. What we had back then was a day and a half plus additional time

[2:39:46] from the moderator spending individual time with all the council members and so it was

[2:39:51] much more involved and then that was about $12,000. If you want a moderator you could probably

[2:39:57] do it for half or less.

[2:40:00] Less than that. And I think in order to do what you probably need, and if you're going to do this, you need an outside moderator.

[2:40:08] And I think one way to look at this is your board of directors of a company that has about 300 million in revenue every year, about 1400 employees, and you're responsible for the value of the private properties, about 15 or more billion.

[2:40:24] And then another than hundreds of millions in public property, it's a very significant operation.

[2:40:34] And I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to come together as a board to find out how you can work together to achieve goals.

[2:40:41] If you do that, if you're more effective as a board and the organization is more effective, I think it's money very well spent, just my opinion.

[2:40:51] But nothing was decided the mayor just wanted to put it out there to see what the council would like to do this and what I'm telling you as I think

[2:41:00] That's about the cost and

[2:41:03] Where the money would come from there there

[2:41:07] If you do it in this year, we're under budget in the council's budget on

[2:41:15] The hearing services we haven't been using that for quite some time probably the same thing next year

[2:41:21] that would be my guess that I guess the first question would come where does that five or

[2:41:26] six thousand dollars come from? Any case, Mayor, that's-

[2:41:32] Yes, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Kegu, and I'd like to add to that again, it wasn't a one

[2:41:37] of emphasize that it wasn't to be out of town or it wasn't supposed to be out of town

[2:41:44] at all. It's just a day or half a day that Council that we can come together and

[2:41:51] and we just allow us to, to, to, to team bill, you know, and to, um, we call it a retreat, and I guess when

[2:42:01] you say retreat, you know, people want to make things that you're going out of town, um, it's,

[2:42:08] um, something that can work, if we, if you wanted that, I just wanted to bring it up to you,

[2:42:14] Council. If you want it, that's fine. If you don't, it's just fine. I just thought that would be a good idea.

[2:42:22] Since we are pretty much new and we can just just get together and just team, though.

[2:42:32] So I'm just hoping for a discussion on that. Council member Nash King.

[2:42:38] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, I have several questions.

[2:42:41] One of them is for Mr. Cago, and we bring all the council together.

[2:42:46] Are we talking about a special meeting or is it open to the public?

[2:42:51] It would be open to the public if you had it at CTC.

[2:42:54] You would have a agenda that says the council retreat and team building activities,

[2:43:00] and the public would be invited.

[2:43:02] Yes, sir. And within my time, I do understand the purpose of having a retreat

[2:43:08] trying to get us to do a team build and we did a lot of that in the military and there's not anything wrong with that

[2:43:16] but from my perspective that we was elected by the people and we should conduct ourselves

[2:43:22] what that happened to be told how to treat each other, respect each other and talk to each other

[2:43:29] that's my stance on that because we represent the people so rather the council have a retreat or not

[2:43:38] that's fine but I just think these are some things that we should do without another adult trying

[2:43:44] to tell us how to conduct ourselves professionally in a municipality environment. Thank you.

[2:43:53] Councilmember Brown.

[2:43:58] I'm going to say that I loved the recommendation that came from or

[2:44:03] citizen during comments of doing what sounds to me more like a field day in our local

[2:44:11] park which could still be used for that team building and not bonding situation. I believe in the

[2:44:17] military that would be called a mandatory fund day.

[2:44:25] I really think it would be good for us. We

[2:44:28] used it up here. We work, we argue, we go back and forth on a lot of this stuff. If we were

[2:44:35] to do a field day with some family-friendly activities. I think it would be a great idea there,

[2:44:42] but I like to do it a little bit bigger, so I would like to bring in some of our staff members

[2:44:47] that want to participate. We have to work with the staff every day also, so why not have an

[2:44:54] to need its team build with the staff as a council.

[2:44:59] New Fits.

[2:45:00] Clearly we would not make this mandatory. I don't think any of us up here are talking about mandating anything on to a fellow council members. But I will say this, that I would volunteer to be one of a member of a committee of council members that would plan this and even go out and talk to some of our local businesses to get sponsorships.

[2:45:28] So that the net expense to the city would be none.

[2:45:32] Thank you.

[2:45:35] Thank you.

[2:45:36] Councilmember Bess.

[2:45:39] Thank you, Mayor.

[2:45:40] My personal experience with these types of events were in the army and in the army, it was

[2:45:49] just the unit, just the team.

[2:45:52] And my experience with this serving on nonprofit boards.

[2:45:57] Again, it was just the board, just the team.

[2:46:03] I just don't see how we can do what I perceive as a retreat

[2:46:08] under the open meetings at.

[2:46:13] I just don't see how we can do that because it's more than just the team.

[2:46:21] And my experience, the value was being able to speak very frankly to each other, being able to learn from each other and having observers, nothing against anybody who might show up, kind of changes the vibe of the event.

[2:46:42] So I just don't see how we can do it.

[2:46:46] As I perceive these retreats are intended to be.

[2:46:50] Thank you.

[2:46:52] Thank you, sir.

[2:46:53] Councilmember Kimball.

[2:46:57] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[2:46:59] Thank you, Mr. Kago, for your insight.

[2:47:03] I got a problem with team building exercise,

[2:47:08] but when you look at how this item even came about,

[2:47:14] I didn't know we were going to be discussing this.

[2:47:17] You know, this decision is kind of made in the vacuum,

[2:47:19] kind of wish we had a little bit of head up about.

[2:47:22] So we wouldn't even take any necessary criticism.

[2:47:24] Are you going out of town? Are you going to Vegas? Are you going wherever whatever?

[2:47:27] I mean, a lot of that could have been headed out tonight by a little communication and I

[2:47:35] I just my personal opinion that

[2:47:41] items that need the business of the city these that come first we have mechanisms to do that

[2:47:47] I don't mean some fellow council members, you know, we went down to round rock, you know, disson things

[2:47:52] Learned a lot. We learned off of each other. It's another profession. There are

[2:47:56] mechanisms out there that's already in place, I plan on taking advantage of those so I can better

[2:48:02] serve the citizens, you know, my relationship with my colleagues, I think that's going to

[2:48:08] happen naturally and organically, I don't necessarily think a team build an exercise to go

[2:48:13] with Councilman Bass, necessarily going to fulfill that. But I do, you know, looking to the senior

[2:48:18] members up here in the Mayor Pro Tem, the Mayor, Councilwoman Nash King, and learn from the staff.

[2:48:27] Those are my touch points, and I look forward to enjoying those things that are already offered.

[2:48:36] But again, this decision was made in a vacuum, not without a team.

[2:48:39] So just kind of ironic, we're talking about team building.

[2:48:41] And we get the land bastard by the citizens today, because there was no input from us.

[2:48:47] That's where I stand on it. I don't think it's necessary.

[2:48:50] Okay, let me see this. This was not made in a vacuum for a

[2:48:55] past money decision. Actually, I went to some of y'all. He

[2:48:58] will afford some of you afford. So, it's okay. I really, it's okay.

[2:49:05] I just wanted to bring it to the council. It's nothing secret about it.

[2:49:11] just thought that we could for us to get together and and gel together talk find out about

[2:49:18] one another we've done it up done it before in the council and it worked it worked and so it's

[2:49:25] a different it's okay I just wanted to bring that to you appreciate your thoughts but I just wanted

[2:49:32] to bring it for discussion in the future consensus so obviously the council does not want that

[2:49:41] And I do understand, and I respect that, but Council, I just wanted to bring that to you.

[2:49:46] That's all, to make it the fine ways that we can come together as a Council.

[2:49:53] And I mean, we're doing good, but I just thought that would be, that would add to it.

[2:49:57] Council, Council Mayor Potech.

[2:50:00] Thank you. I do think it's important on different levels to have these sorts of conversations. I think that, to a couple of points, I love the idea of the community involvement in the field-day type activities, but I also believe that there's a need for strategic visioning. There's things that regarding our city, our direction of our city, our comprehensive plan, ensuring that new council members are understanding the vision and the goal overall of the city.

[2:50:30] and also has it relates to us as district members,

[2:50:32] and it's at large members.

[2:50:34] We did away with the Group Town Hall

[2:50:36] at the end of the New Election cycle.

[2:50:40] So unfortunately for our community members,

[2:50:42] it doesn't give them the opportunity to hear

[2:50:44] where we're coming from, what our vision is,

[2:50:46] for the city, for our districts, or for the city overall.

[2:50:49] So I think that for strategic visioning,

[2:50:51] it could be important.

[2:50:53] I guess Mr. Kagle, we've never done this before.

[2:50:55] So I've never done this before.

[2:50:56] So if it were to happen, what does that look like

[2:50:59] Council members pass this point, especially if it's an open meeting and you're trying to actually have a structured dialogue.

[2:51:07] It would be an open meeting. Lots of cities do it. You do have to have an agenda.

[2:51:12] But it would be fairly broad. You'd talk about goals and objectives for the city.

[2:51:17] It would talk about team building the ways to communicate better the ways to work with each other better.

[2:51:23] There would have to be an agenda, but this is done fairly regularly.

[2:51:27] It's done regularly and as the comments are open to the public and then they provide people like just like a regular

[2:51:32] Yes, man. I regular meeting. Okay. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you

[2:51:39] Tell some member Brown

[2:51:42] Just a second term.

[2:51:46] I'm formulating to make sure I say this

[2:51:50] As non offensively as possible and I do mean it with the utmost respect

[2:51:56] but

[2:51:57] If we're talking about planning and strategic planning and the team

[2:52:02] There's nothing that we should be saying behind closed doors that we're not willing to say in public and front of everybody.

[2:52:12] We shouldn't act one way just because nobody's eyes are on us and act another way because we're sitting on the dias and everyone can see us.

[2:52:22] I'm not concerned about what happens if the public sees a team building because I think that it would be great for the public to see that each and every one of us is willing to extend our olive branches, put our hands out and say,

[2:52:40] I'm ready to work together with you for the benefit of the future of the city of

[2:52:47] Colleen that we've all been selected and elected to represent.

[2:52:53] That's why I don't mind doing team building.

[2:52:58] Really, if we went along with the concepts of doing team building exercises, you don't

[2:53:04] do a whole lot of talking if you trust falling.

[2:53:07] You don't do a whole lot of strategic talking if you're doing a three-legged race, which I will tell you I am at a severe disadvantage for us, so that's it isn't.

[2:53:18] Wasn't thinking about me being on the council in my height difference.

[2:53:24] Again, it's an opportunity to relax.

[2:53:26] I think sometimes some of the tension that people might feel in the public is because all we're ever doing is having these very deep tense conversations.

[2:53:39] people once they start having fun together and start relaxing you start seeing where people

[2:53:44] have more in common. That's why I'm still supportive of the idea as long as we can do it

[2:53:49] with sponsorships on city property not cost the citizens anything.

[2:53:56] Councilmember Kinjigs.

[2:54:01] Well, in my burning max for voice, I don't know if you already

[2:54:04] it else. Hey, I'm okay with team building.

[2:54:12] I could just say if I just

[2:54:15] think sometimes if you team building, it would just say if you're going to have fun,

[2:54:19] you're going to have fun with it. All right, well, I'm going to have fun with it a little bit

[2:54:22] right now. I would love to do a team building so we could talk and kind of figure out

[2:54:28] people talk too much.

[2:54:35] So I'm all about the team building that way can find out what it is that

[2:54:44] the other person may dislike about you or whatever. That's part of team building and to get the

[2:54:51] get those things out. That's how you get them out. I told you I'm going to have a look fun with

[2:54:56] to those that know me off the diet.

[2:55:00] I'm a joke, I like to have fun and I talk smack. But on the same token, I can be serious about it. And I can understand where you come from. You can understand where I'm coming from. And maybe we can meet halfway and everything works out perfect. That's all I'm saying.

[2:55:23] So we're going to go somewhere.

[2:55:31] I'm on for retreats.

[2:55:35] I've gone to a lot of retreats in the past.

[2:55:38] And retreats are for to bring us together.

[2:55:42] And we are to share any type of this

[2:55:45] prepency of whatever that we have with each other.

[2:55:48] But here is my issue here.

[2:55:50] The very ones who's talking on the very ones who has the issues.

[2:55:55] So my question would be when we have the retreat

[2:55:58] What we really come together and that's my thing is that we need to come together

[2:56:03] We need to come together. So we could make sound decisions for our city and community and for our citizens

[2:56:11] And the hostile environment. Yes, it's here. It's a hostile environment because it goes deeper than what we say in up here

[2:56:20] Some of the wounds are deeper. I don't have the getting to

[2:56:24] what they are or how deep they are but they are deep. And so I think that we are

[2:56:31] grown enough or mature enough to say, to not to be selfish and say, okay, I'll

[2:56:37] lay those down. I mean, is that too much to ask that you just can lay down

[2:56:42] yourself as ways and the way that you feel about each other, for the best of the

[2:56:47] community, it breaks my heart. And I'm being real at night, it breaks my heart, to

[2:56:52] We are growing and we are adults and we cannot get along even for the city

[2:56:59] and make sound decisions for the city

[2:57:01] So if we're going to have a retreat let's have a real retreat

[2:57:06] Let's have a retreat to where for real we're going to come together

[2:57:09] We're going to lay down our animosity

[2:57:13] We're going to lay down all of the problems and the issues that we have against each other because they go deep

[2:57:20] and get along. So that we can be effective as a council. That's my part.

[2:57:30] Councilmember Nushkin. Thank you, Mr. Murders. This is my second time.

[2:57:35] As I stated earlier, a retreat is fine. However, an individual has to make a choice.

[2:57:43] Councilwoman Brown and I extended all of branches to each other with that happen to go to a retreat.

[2:57:51] with that happen to have someone to come in and tell us and this happened because we made a

[2:57:58] choice that we are wanted to work together. Matter of fact we have a project that we're working

[2:58:04] on now that you were here about in the future. So if I got to have an adult to tell me right

[2:58:11] from wrong and when we should be telling our kids right from wrong and our grandkids right from

[2:58:17] a retreat is not going to change your character, the person, that's an individual who they are.

[2:58:23] You have to have a wheel to want to change.

[2:58:26] So trying to dig in why you like me, you don't like me, that's child's play.

[2:58:31] What you need to do is separate that when you get on the diet.

[2:58:34] One, don't end the ruptured.

[2:58:36] Two, don't make flour and marks about each other.

[2:58:39] It's just simple, petty stuff that we can do, set our own self reflection.

[2:58:45] And once we realized that we can work together on our own and try to test it to see if it works,

[2:58:52] taking account of building for our self and our action, we won't be having to discourage our retreat.

[2:58:58] But it's an individual choice, and that's what we have free wheel that was given to everyone

[2:59:04] to do right, respect, and love each other. And if you choose not to do it, a retreat is not going to change your character overnight.

[2:59:11] I can honestly say I look forward to working with Council Member Brian on the project that is

[2:59:18] of the good of the residents that we serve and you will be here from us.

[2:59:23] Thank you.

[2:59:27] Thank you.

[2:59:30] And what we're experiencing right now is actually the purpose of what I feel is the purpose

[2:59:34] of retreat, which would be against strategic visioning and, again, understanding or communication

[2:59:40] styles.

[2:59:40] that causes a lot of what the discord is that's been referenced across the aisle.

[2:59:44] So I do think it is important. It's not about changing character, but it's about learning

[2:59:48] communication styles and how to best communicate effectively. Mr. Cagle, should we decide to do

[2:59:54] something like this? Who sets the agenda for that? And do we set the agenda and then that topics that we

[3:00:00] Would you like to have moderate it? Sure, a couple of ways you can do it. The mayor could set it. You could have an agenda item in a future council meeting where you set your agenda.

[3:00:10] Thank you.

[3:00:16] Okay. Well, council, I thank you for the discussion. I appreciate that. We will move on to citizens comments, non agenda items.

[3:00:27] It's time for citizen comments on items that are not listed on the agenda.

[3:00:34] For the meeting tonight, citizens will have three minutes to speak.

[3:00:39] Comments on the dissection are limited to the first 10 members of the public to sign

[3:00:44] a sign of the speak.

[3:00:47] Mayor and Council will not discuss items that are not on the agenda.

[3:00:53] nor respond other than response, but then possible offer a brief statement or Pacific

[3:01:01] factual information or proposed to place an item on the agenda for a future meeting.

[3:01:10] Madam City Secretary, please call them.

[3:01:14] We have four speakers.

[3:01:17] Our speaker is Michael Furnino.

[3:01:19] This

[3:01:35] is kind of...

[3:01:37] DevTails off of what the mayor was just talking about earlier and several of you about communication, which I didn't know was going to come up.

[3:01:44] And I put that on on my form to speak for this topic.

[3:01:49] First off, when it comes to communication, I'm noticing a switch to a different email account.

[3:01:54] I put read receipts, and I'm astounded as to how many of you, especially you, Mr. Mayor, don't actually read my emails.

[3:02:01] nor do any of you respond to my emails?

[3:02:08] Well, the exception of you.

[3:02:09] I've got one response, but there again,

[3:02:14] when it comes to transparency and accountability,

[3:02:16] you just voted to spend a lot of our money.

[3:02:21] And my general theme on accountability on this is,

[3:02:24] where I said, tighten up your budgets,

[3:02:26] you voted to grab our money, so now you have our money

[3:02:29] hostage for the next fiscal year,

[3:02:31] in the word as fiscal, not physical, as you have that all the choices from here forward is a reflection

[3:02:41] of what you've committed to. I would suggest I many others have had this conversation from time

[3:02:47] to time over the years we've noticed that members of staff present all of these things are about

[3:02:54] 80% done and then they're looking for funding to get it done and approve and all that and we the

[3:02:58] people, never got any heads up on what it was, and I'm getting tired of that. I really am.

[3:03:06] I mean, I'm not saying that the staff shouldn't be doing any work, but how about we get a list

[3:03:11] of what do the people want spent? What projects do we prioritize? Maybe meet somewhere in the middle

[3:03:18] on that. But this, oh, well, the staff work really hard and the job's 90% done, and they just need

[3:03:25] final approval from you, or I'm from, I'm going to ask, who asked you to start this job

[3:03:30] meaninglessly, anyway? I mean, you should be driving the staff's task, not the other way around.

[3:03:36] Who works for whom?

[3:03:39] You boss, they employ. That's that's relationship that is long since

[3:03:45] been forgotten around here. You drive the agenda, you drive the priorities. I mean, you gear it

[3:03:50] for us, one where the other, what we see in the streets,

[3:03:54] not getting repaved, projects not getting done.

[3:03:58] But again, you need to be driving the agenda.

[3:04:02] You need to be setting the priorities.

[3:04:06] Dial the clock back, the grocery store issue.

[3:04:09] You're supposed to be driving EDC.

[3:04:10] We just kept throwing money at them.

[3:04:13] Don't worry, you've bothered to follow up,

[3:04:14] took it on faith.

[3:04:16] Where are we with that?

[3:04:19] I've had conversation with council member

[3:04:23] about the grocery store even prior to all of that, but think about what you're going to do with

[3:04:27] our money that if you have it, be responsible, be fiscally responsible.

[3:04:36] Madam City Secretary.

[3:04:39] Next speaker is Dr. Sue Nisey Croft.

[3:04:54] Council Member City Manager, KDC, and Fellow Citizens, for years we have

[3:05:00] We have talked about the need for the grocery store on the north side of Colleen. The city council has already

[3:05:05] getting KDC directive to prioritize bringing that grocery store to North Colleen. Today, something different

[3:05:12] is happening. The citizens aren't waiting, we are organizing. On Saturday, September 5th from 1 to 3 p.m., North Colleen residents will

[3:05:22] the first official steering committee meeting for the North Side Cooperative Market, a community

[3:05:27] different effort to explore building a sustainable grocery solution for North Colleen.

[3:05:34] More than 2,500 people viewed our initial announcement and 25 plus clean residents have already

[3:05:40] volunteered to help do the work. Tonight I would like to publicly invite KDC City staff members

[3:05:47] and this council of community organization and business leaders, potential partners and

[3:05:53] interested residents to attend our September to 5th meeting.

[3:05:57] This is not about competing with KADC.

[3:06:00] It's about collaboration.

[3:06:02] KADC has given a direct, has been given a directive to help bring a grocery store to

[3:06:08] Northside Colleen.

[3:06:10] The citizens have independently organized around that same objective, so perhaps it's time

[3:06:15] with those two efforts to meet instead of KDC working on one side

[3:06:20] and the citizens working on the other.

[3:06:23] Let's sit at the same table and ask.

[3:06:25] One can KEDC, the city, the business community,

[3:06:28] and the people of North Colleen accomplish together

[3:06:31] that none of us have been able to accomplish separately.

[3:06:35] Our first steering committee meeting will be held Saturday,

[3:06:39] October to fifth from 1 to 3 p.m.

[3:06:41] at the New Life Village Suite B. Thank you Mayor for putting together that

[3:06:47] faith event I did connect with them during that time.

[3:06:52] At 704, the East Vet Trans Memorial Boulevard in Colleen, we aren't coming to that meeting

[3:06:59] claiming to have all the answers. We're coming prepared to work and we're inviting everyone who has

[3:07:05] a legitimate interest in finally solving North-Cling grocery access problem to come work with us.

[3:07:14] And I hope to see interest parties there so that we can move this forward.

[3:07:19] I thank you.

[3:07:25] Councilmember Nushkin.

[3:07:28] Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council.

[3:07:30] I just wanted to add to that Dr. Fallima Brown Minister Fallima Brown started a co-op working

[3:07:38] with the city council and also with Mr. Cago and he has already laid the foundation for

[3:07:45] co-op. He acts for people too and I think maybe this was a year ago and I know I spoke

[3:07:52] to him recently when this came up maybe last month and he stated that there are continued

[3:07:57] looking for people to join. So one of the recommendations was

[3:08:02] good. I think that's all. So I just want to remind this is a

[3:08:09] consistent comments on non agenda items and so any statement should

[3:08:13] be a very brief factual in response to a question, but not a

[3:08:16] discussion or anything. I'm just giving a recommendation. Let me cut

[3:08:23] It's short, then. Mr. Fallen Brown started it and I would reach out to him to see how far he's

[3:08:30] gotten. Thank you. Madam City Secretary.

[3:08:35] Next speaker is Anka Nega.

[3:08:42] Thank you, Council.

[3:08:45] I'm here on behalf of several citizens that reach out to me for help. One of them is the owner,

[3:08:52] Gizmo and I pull out open records and I saw the email from Mr. Cagel that he sent to you in response to that article

[3:09:03] And Mr. Cagel says that for owners that cannot afford the impound and boarding fees, we work out payment arrangements through municipal court. That's excellent except

[3:09:15] They don't do that. Mr. Kagels telling you that they do that. They don't. Gizmo was not.

[3:09:23] He's most owner was not off for that. They flat out refused.

[3:09:28] She had no idea they were going to charge her that high of a fee.

[3:09:32] They flat out refused to give the dog back.

[3:09:35] And then they gave her the wrong information and of course.

[3:09:38] And so they kept the dogs several days longer and then they gave it for free to rescue.

[3:09:44] So they didn't even collect a fee. Just a day I was contacted by the owners of some

[3:09:51] pets that they were saved by the help of the police department from a house fire at

[3:09:59] on Brando.

[3:10:01] And if you can find out who the police officer is, they were very grateful for the help they got. Brando Lane, lot 194. The police make sure that the animals are, well, one pet didn't make it, but the others made it, they were taking to the shelter.

[3:10:20] and several days later the shelter made them pay six hundred six hundred sixty dollars

[3:10:27] which they didn't have. They're extremely desperate. Again they were not offered payment

[3:10:34] arrangements. They were going to keep the pets. So I'm not sure what Mr. Cagle is saying

[3:10:42] when he's telling you, and someone's great, except it's not true.

[3:10:50] So in the first case, okay, Gizmo got out, it's the owner's fault, I understand.

[3:10:56] In this case, the house burned down how cruel do you have to be to say, look, do

[3:11:04] bad, you give us money, or you lose your pets, and after the police were so kind and

[3:11:12] So nice to these people, and then they go to the shelter and boom, their desperate, desperate,

[3:11:20] even now they just can't believe that the shelter would do that to them.

[3:11:26] And the same with Gizmo, they had so many opportunities to give that animal back to the owner.

[3:11:33] Very easy.

[3:11:34] And they knew that they wanted the dog back.

[3:11:37] I understand they did something you're you're correct, but doesn't mean you confiscate the animal

[3:11:44] Just find them, but not like flat out confiscate. Thank you

[3:11:54] Mr. Mayor the next speaker is our online speaker. Excuse me just for a minute. Council member Kimball

[3:12:03] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr.

[3:12:07] As a matter of fact, to stay within the guidelines, can you find out how often the court provides owners of dogs that are taken to pay the fees as part of the court finds?

[3:12:22] Thank you,

[3:12:25] sir.

[3:12:25] Madam Chair, Secretary.

[3:12:28] Mr. Mayor, the next speaker is Heather McMillan.

[3:12:36] Good evening, Congressman.

[3:12:38] Thank you.

[3:12:39] good evening council. So I really had no intentions to speak again this

[3:12:45] evening, but something was brought up about code enforcement and the

[3:12:50] connect app. So I feel this would be a good time to address the issue and I

[3:12:55] want to thank you allow for me to do so via Zoom. The corporate role, the

[3:13:01] councilwoman spoke of in my name is in my neighborhood and the councilman

[3:13:05] said we have an app, you are current. And yes, I've used it and reported that

[3:13:12] Carport role that the councilwoman spoke of along with a trailer on the street

[3:13:17] debris in a yard and broken sidewalks many times on that and guess what? That

[3:13:25] carpet is still there on that sidewalk two years later after being recorded

[3:13:29] repeatedly. So I'm flowing, quote enforcement under the bus. I have spoken to

[3:13:36] code enforcement about this situation when they came out to a different home

[3:13:40] in my neighborhood and he said the cart pretty well is of his department. I

[3:13:44] needed a contact solid waste apartment. The trailer is the police departments

[3:13:49] issue. The broken sidewalk is public works department. So I needed to contact

[3:13:54] them. So, now that I just said that, I now need to contact four different departments.

[3:14:03] Why are these departments communicating with each other? The app isn't working and now it's

[3:14:09] the citizens' responsibility to be doing all of that, contacting four departments under one

[3:14:16] complaint at one location. What is the point of code enforcement and this app for? If it's not being

[3:14:23] utilize properly. Please look into the workings of the app and the cross

[3:14:28] communication of departments instead of passing it on to citizens to tackle it and

[3:14:32] have to reach out to everybody. Also, I must note, it was reported through a

[3:14:37] councilwoman's city email on that app and it was finally partially addressed

[3:14:41] yet that corporate role is still there today. So how does it look to me as a

[3:14:46] citizen that I can also remember gets action before a citizen on the same

[3:14:50] complaint that I've been filing for over two years. I would like you all to consider this item on the agenda for future meetings to find some

[3:15:00] Pollutions on the communication disconnections between departments and the apps. And the use of the distribution of this information to the departments and how it effectively could make things better for the staff and citizens.

[3:15:13] We should not be having to be contacting every department and there's no direction for us to do so.

[3:15:19] Also, I'll point out that code enforcement officer has only been in my neighborhood in three times in two years.

[3:15:27] And there is violations they never drive around, especially when we're paying extra money to have them there.

[3:15:34] So again, please put this on your agenda features.

[3:15:39] Thank you.

[3:15:42] Thank you.

[3:15:45] City Secretary.

[3:15:49] The final speaker is Leo Gugaisen.

[3:16:00] Good evening again, Mr. Mayor. Madam Mayor.

[3:16:03] Council Member City Manager.

[3:16:06] I wasn't really going to speak this evening about anything on this matter,

[3:16:11] but after the last item on the agenda and the discussion that was made

[3:16:16] by all parties, I have to admit that was pretty darn good.

[3:16:23] Every spoke to a piece about this retreat, or whatever it was going to be called, work

[3:16:29] shop, whatever.

[3:16:31] Because I remember in the late days back when we were across the street over there at the

[3:16:36] utility collection office, two sitting council members stand up, and we're going to fight each

[3:16:44] other right there in front of them, God hadn't country there, you know, and he talked about

[3:16:49] embarrassment and actually another thing is going on but I have to admit and I might be getting

[3:16:54] soft to my old age but please don't repeat that. What I saw just that one little discussion,

[3:17:04] you know that is what we need more of open discussion and I have to agree with one part of the

[3:17:12] body that we don't need a dog. We're adults. We don't need another adult to tell us how to do things.

[3:17:18] we should know that by now, we're all up there, we've all retired from one of two jobs already.

[3:17:26] We have the experience. It's just getting together and willing to talk about openly on what's going on.

[3:17:34] And I think that I really surprised at that last item of discussion where it was open.

[3:17:41] Everybody spoke through mine, no one got their feelings hurt, there was no repeat of that one incident where two council members wanted to fight back there in front of everybody.

[3:17:53] One party admitted that they have extended an olive branch to another party and they are working together on a project, which is good, that's the way it should be.

[3:18:04] That's what we need. That's what we, the people want to see. We don't want to see a pair of

[3:18:11] our representatives arguing with each other. That's not the image we want to see, and that's what

[3:18:18] sets a bad tone to people who have said in the past, they don't come to these meetings because

[3:18:24] everybody argues amongst themselves. But I just want to say congratulations and if I was wearing

[3:18:30] had I would take it off to y'all for that last item there. How y'all handled that and what y'all said.

[3:18:37] I think that was that was real good and that's what I would like to see more of and I'm sure

[3:18:41] other residents would like to see more of that too. And again thank you for your time and y'all have a good

[3:18:46] evening. Thank you sir.

[3:18:50] There are no more speakers. Thank you City Secretary thank you for your help.

[3:18:55] Council member Nash King. Mr. Mayor, there's no more discussion. I like to make a motion to adjourn.

[3:19:04] Is there a second?

[3:19:08] Is there a second?

[3:19:11] Okay, second by mapo Jim, may I all in favour?

[3:19:14] Aye.

[3:19:16] Okay. Yes, ma'am. I'm coming.

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