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Hello and welcome to the regular
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business meeting for the District of
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Squamish for Tuesday, March 17th.
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Holland squalan Squamish. As always,
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we're gathered to do our work today on
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the traditional unseated territory of
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the Squamish nation. Please be advised
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this council meeting is being
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livereamed, recorded, and will be
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available to the public to view on the
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District of Squamish website following
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the meeting. If you have concerns,
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please notify the corporate officer
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present at the meeting. In this case,
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that would be Miss Vlon Budau. Um, could
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I have someone move adoption of the
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agenda, please? Moved by councelor
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French, second by councelor Stoner. All
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in favor? Any opposed? Motion carries.
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Thank you. So, our first order of
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business uh is item 31. uh the BC
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Epilepsy Society. Um
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and I believe we have we'll be receiving
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our presentation. Roly. Oh, there you
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are. Hello. Thank you for joining us.
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>> Hello.
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» Hello.
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Good evening, council. I am with the I'm
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the administrative coordinator with the
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BC Epilepsy Society. Unfortunately, our
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executive director, Dietra, was unable
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to speak today with illness. So, I'm
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still grateful for the opportunity to be
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here to rep represent our organization.
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Um, and I just like to thank you guys
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again for the opportunity to speak and
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for the support of epilepsy awareness in
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our community. We truly appreciate the
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leadership and the com commitment to
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help build a more informed and
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supportive um community in Squamish.
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Epilepsy is one of the most common
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neurological conditions affecting
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approximately one in a 100 people. This
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means that here in Squamish, many
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individuals and family are living with
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epilepsy and contribute contributing to
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the strength and diversity of this
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community every day. with greater
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awareness and understanding. Um we're
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hoping we can create um an environment
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where people living with epilepsy feel
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supported and empowered and simple
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actions like learning about epilepsy and
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recognizing the uh epilepsy awareness
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day on March 26th will help encourage
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more open conversations making a
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meaningful and lasting impact. Your
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support helps us to build that community
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where people feel confident and safe.
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We're grateful for the partnership and
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the role to help us bring awareness.
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Thank you again for your time and
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support. If anyone has any questions,
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please let me know.
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>> Thank you very much for the
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» Thank you very much for the
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presentation. Council, do we have any
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questions for our guests? We also have
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the proclamation request as it appears
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in the agenda. Um, if we're ready for if
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there's no questions, I'd entertain a
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motion.
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Are you moving uh the recommendation?
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Councelor Pettingill. A second by
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Councelor French. Would you like to
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speak to it, Council Pettingill?
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>> Um, just to say uh thank you for coming
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» Um, just to say uh thank you for coming
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and presenting uh and reminding us about
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this. I think it's always good to keep
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um these things top of mind and uh it's
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a a simple and small gesture we can do
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to help with that. Thank you.
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Thank you. Any other comments on this?
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Um, happy to support this um this uh
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proclamation. I I do think it's as
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councilor Pending said, it's really
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important that we uh even through a
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small gesture like this um uh
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ensure that these these types of things
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uh and particularly EP epilepsy here
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receives the recognition um that it that
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it deserves. there are people living in
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our community and uh with that uh that
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have epilepsy and we may not unless we
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exp are nearby and we experience then
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they experience an an episode it's it's
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unlikely that we would necessarily be
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aware of that. So this is an opportunity
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for us to um uh to show our our support.
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I'm happy to do so. So thank you very
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much and with that I'll call the
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question. All in favor? Motion carries
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unanimously. Thank you so much. Enjoy
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the rest of your evening.
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>> Thank you for your time.
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» Thank you for your time.
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Thank you. So, next we have the uh
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unscheduled public attendance. This is
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if anyone has a matter they'd like to uh
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have considered by council prior to our
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next meeting. Uh this would be
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opportunity to
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put that forward.
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No takers this evening. So, we'll move
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on. Um we do not have any um public
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hearings, so we're on to the consent
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agenda. Would anyone like to pull
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anything that is in the consent agenda
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or move the consent agenda is the
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alternative? Councelor Stoner,
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>> I'm going to pull items D1 and two,
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» I'm going to pull items D1 and two,
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please.
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>> Okay. Um, so we'll deal with those at
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» Okay. Um, so we'll deal with those at
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the appropriate time. Um, is there
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anyone that would like to remove the
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remainder of the consent agenda? There's
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not much left for those that aren't
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reading the moving council French second
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by councelor Hamilton. All in favor?
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Motion carries. And we'll deal with
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those at the appropriate time later in
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the uh in our agenda. Uh so now we have
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uh consideration of first, second, and
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third reading for the District of
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Squamish in indemnification bylaw number
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3224 2026. And we have our corporate
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officer or director of corporate
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administration uh to present to us.
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Okay. Um, happy to take a quick timeout
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if or a medium length time out if that's
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what's needed. It's coming. Okay.
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So just to buy some time without taking
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a timeout, I'm going to propose we move
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forward to we have a couple adoptions on
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the on the agenda. Uh so that's 7B1 and
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two. Um and as is our common practice,
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we don't have presentation on these.
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These are just these are ready to be
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adopted. All the uh tees have been
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crossed and eyes have been dotted. So um
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could I So the first one is District of
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Squamish zoning bylaw number 22 or 2200
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2011 amendment bylaw and this is uh
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regarding local and liquor primary
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commercial. Moved by councelor French
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second by councelor Hamilton. All in
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favor? Motion carries. Thank you. And
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the the next is District of Commerce
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zoning bylaw number 2200 2011 amendment
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bylaw regarding indoor recreation.
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Moved by councelor Ster. Second by
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councelor Hamilton. All in favor. Any
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opposed? Motion carries.
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I hope that we may have bought at least
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some time. We'll come back to There we
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go. Look at that.
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The floor is yours when you're ready.
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Uh good evening council. My name is
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Melissa Bambbleo. I'm the director of
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corporate administration. Uh today I am
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presenting on District of Squamish
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indemnification bylaw number 3224
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2026.
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Uh there were changes made to the bylaw
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this morning, including the correction
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of two typos, including a reference to
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the a specific section in the local
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government act and replacing guilty with
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uh convicted in section 5.1G of the
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bylaw to more to align more closely with
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the local government act language. Uh
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the bylaw has been replaced online and
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is and the current copy is in blue in
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front of council this evening.
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Uh the bylaw in front of council this
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evening uh if it is adopted at a future
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meeting will repeal the current
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indemnification bylaw which was adopted
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in 1998
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uh
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and be replaced with the bylaw before
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council right now. Uh the purpose of an
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indemn in of an indemnification bylaw is
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to establish parameters for when the
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district will pay for and defend
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municipal officials, which is defined in
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the bylaw, from legal claims that may
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arise out of the performance of their
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duties or functions on behalf of the
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district. This could include paying for
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legal defense costs, settlements, or
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judgments, or certain penalties related
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to official duties. It does not allow
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for the district to pay for a fine that
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results from a conviction where the
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official was it at fault or had intent
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and examples of this may be fraud or
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knowing knowingly violating legislation.
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The bylaw will establish clear
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expectations as to when the district
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must be notified that a legal matter has
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arisen which can be found in section 4.2
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of the bylaw.
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Uh the bylaw also sets limits on when
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municipal officials will not be
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indemnified under section five of the
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bylaw which include if there is a
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conviction where there is a finding of
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negligence or willful misconduct.
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Uh next section is legislative
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alignment. The content of the bylaw has
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been drafted to align with language in
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the local government act, specifically
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sections 738 and 740.
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This includes the definition of
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indemnity. The definition of municipal
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official, limits on indemnification for
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the following. When a finding has been
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made related to dishonesty, gross
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negligence, malicious or willful
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misconduct has been made against a
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municipal official. And this is section
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5.1A.
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Uh and and limits on on indemnification
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when a municipal official has been
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convicted of an offense that is not a
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strict or absolute liability offense.
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This is section 5.1G in the bylaw and in
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the definition of indemnity.
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There's also alignment with the
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community charter including in the
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limits of indemnification section
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including breach of confidentiality
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under section 117 and this is section
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5.1E of the bylaw and disqualification
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from holding office under section 111
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section 1.5F of the bylaw.
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And that includes my presentation this
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evening. Thank you.
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>> Thank you very much for the
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» Thank you very much for the
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presentation. Council questions
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on this.
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>> Go ahead, Councelor Penning.
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» Go ahead, Councelor Penning.
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>> So, how does this work with insurance
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» So, how does this work with insurance
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companies who would I believe typically
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be the ultimate payers? Were there a a
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judgment against someone who is
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I I presume covered by this? uh like
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does the fact that we have this bylaw
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then obligate the insurance companies to
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provide that to anyone in our an
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organization they're insuring or is it
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still ultimately up to an insurance
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company
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how things proceed or what happens or
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can you speak to that a bit
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>> uh through the mayor u the so the
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» uh through the mayor u the so the
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district's municipal insurance company
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is the municipal insurance association
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of BC and they handle very specific
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claims for us. And when a claim is
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passed to MIABC,
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they handle every aspect of that claim.
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So, prior to accepting a claim, they
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make a determination whether it fits
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within the scope of our municipal
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coverage.
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If a situation was to arise where there
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may be a conflict with our bylaw, I'm
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sure they would be flagging that in
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advance of accepting the um accepting
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the claim or uh representing the
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district. Uh but I have not seen a
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specific example like the one you've
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referenced.
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» Thank you. You have a followup. Yeah,
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just sort of big picture wine because I
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I had been I had the impression that as
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elected officials we in particular had
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very little protection against even our
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own mistakes. Um uh this implies there's
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something more. Uh, am I correct though
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in thinking that um this doesn't really
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I I guess maybe can you just speak a
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little more to sort of where there is
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some protection available if if some
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like it's clear if you do something
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willfully wrong you're not protected but
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if you're sort of doing things with the
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best intent best of intentions on what
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are the still the limitations in this
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» uh through the mayor, I actually brought
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a couple of examples that I can speak to
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and hopefully that will help frame it a
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little bit because it to be honest, the
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language in the legislation isn't always
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clear and it is confusing and I had to
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do a fair bit of research to wrap my
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head around this. So, uh if you'll be
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patient with me, I'll find a few
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examples here and read them out.
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Uh the first example is a municipal
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official is convicted of knowingly
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falsifying records. So in this situation
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uh this is a is uh the municipality
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cannot pay the fine. So if they were
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convicted and there was a fine issued
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the municipality could not pay the fine.
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However,
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it could the council does or council and
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the district does have discretion to pay
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some of the legal fees that may be
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associated in the determination of
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whether there was a conviction.
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Does that makes some clarity? Okay, I'll
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go into the next one. Uh, a counselor is
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fined under an environmental statute for
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an inadvertent regulatory breach despite
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acting responsibly. So, there's another
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fine issued in this case. Uh, there was
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uh there wasn't intent, so the
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municipality may pay the fine.
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Does that provide some clarity? Is it
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more confusing?
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>> Like any good example, it may have
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» Like any good example, it may have
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triggered a few questions. So we'll I'll
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go back to councelor Pettingill.
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>> Yeah, that one is a little confusing in
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» Yeah, that one is a little confusing in
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that we have no individual ability to do
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an environmental action or whatever
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direct one. So the the word a counselor
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like is implicit and this is actually
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the council and their majority vote and
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and it's the the group that's protected
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or is there some case where an
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individual is is somehow
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which seems like an impossible
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situation? You could replace counselor
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with municipal official as defined by
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the bylaw,
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>> but you're right. No individual
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» but you're right. No individual
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counselor has a specific authority to
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take an individual action. So that would
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likely be the counselors in that would
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likely be a multiple. I share your
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assessment with that. Um
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I was curious I thank you for the
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examples. Those were help. Yeah. Well, I
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know I know it's a it's it is a
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challenging
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topic. I think it's just got a lot of
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new a lot of whatifs is to it. But I was
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wondering you sorry in your presentation
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it spoke to how it relates to community
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charter and and legislation broadly. Um
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how does where does the code of conduct
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sit in this? Like I understand there's
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these, you know, if there's a fine paid
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or a guilty or someone, you know, in
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other jurisdictions, but was there a
[18:12]
lens to do we rely on those
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uh mechanisms for this or does the code
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of conduct bump into it feels like we're
[18:19]
starting to that there's some overlap
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potentially? How are we thinking about
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that or or can you add some can you
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orient me on that?
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>> That's a good question. Um the
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» That's a good question. Um the
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indemnification bylaw is specifically if
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there's a legal claim against the
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district. So it's moved past the point
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where
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uh council in the district is dealing
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with um a breach of
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conduct in house and it's moved into the
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legal fear sphere. So it there is a
[18:53]
fairly clear line between them I would
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say.
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>> Okay. Thank you. That's helpful.
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» Okay. Thank you. That's helpful.
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Um, councelor Hamilton. Yeah, go ahead.
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>> Yeah, thanks very much. It's interesting
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» Yeah, thanks very much. It's interesting
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that the the this bylaw has an
[19:10]
interesting combination of council that
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the municipal officer includes council
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and employees of the municipality.
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Um and in terms of municipal employees,
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uh I can certainly I see the logic uh
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for in part three
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um
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the determination of payment of the
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indemnification amounts
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um is determined by the chief
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administrative officer, the CIO um and
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the CIO being the head of the district.
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That makes sense in terms of the
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municipal officers. Does that make sense
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as well in terms of council?
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Does that is there um
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are there other instances where the CAO
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has determination
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over council? When I think of the code
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of conduct bylaw, for example, council
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regulates, council's
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um within that bylaw, council makes
[20:18]
decisions. So I guess the question is
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within other indemnification
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bylaws,
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is it common practice to have the CEO uh
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be a deciding uh uh determinated
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determinating body on damages, awards,
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fines, penalties, and what reasonable
[20:42]
costs will be paid um for council.
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Many of the other bylaws that we looked
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at when we were doing the research for
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this left that more open-ended. It ended
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at as uh out of pockets out of pocket
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costs and uh
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some included
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the word reasonable. However, there we
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didn't find any that specified a
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specific individual that would determine
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that. I will say though that we do have
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in the code of conduct bylaw, the CEO is
[21:21]
the person that makes determinations
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about um legal fees. If council needs to
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uh seek legal advice, it needs to go
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through the CEO. So, we do have a little
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bit of a precedent there for that.
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Okay.
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So what role
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um
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what role does council play if any in
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determining
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whether council
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pursues or
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um determines the level of
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indemnification
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that another counselor will be
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um awarded and awarded isn't the right
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word here, but what determining that
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reasonable level of cost because at some
[22:19]
point in time somebody might get into a
[22:21]
legal dispute and
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more and more money might need to go
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down that road.
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Does council play any role in that or
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does that sit purely with the CEO?
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uh can if there is a legal claim that
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fits the parameters of the bylaw if it
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is adopted uh all the costs associated
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with that in within reason would be
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covered because of the indemnification
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bylaw. So there isn't a
[22:58]
threshold for when a legal claim needs
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to come to council for approval. I will
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say that if a legal claim doesn't fit
[23:08]
the parameters of this bylaw,
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council has the discretion through the
[23:14]
local government act to um direct direct
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that the legal claim is indemnified
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through council resolution.
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» Okay. Thanks. I didn't realize that
[23:28]
overarching piece of the local
[23:31]
government act. That's good to know. And
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yeah, the my my question my my point
[23:38]
here is that discussion of what's
[23:40]
reasonable and the determination of what
[23:44]
is reasonable when the C when a CEO and
[23:47]
this is not about our CEO. This is about
[23:51]
power dynamics that get set up within
[23:54]
councils and between the CEO because the
[23:57]
CEO can be um
[24:01]
either um they can be put in a position
[24:06]
where
[24:08]
they are undermined by their council and
[24:10]
a CIO can undermine their council. That
[24:13]
power dynamic can happen. Um, and I'm
[24:18]
reflecting here on whether this can
[24:21]
contribute to that power dynamic in a
[24:23]
potential sticky sticky situation. Um,
[24:25]
but I don't think I have a better
[24:27]
solution. Um, and with the coverage of
[24:30]
the local government act that the
[24:33]
council can step in and indemnify, I'm
[24:35]
comfortable with the CIO being in this
[24:37]
role here.
[24:39]
>> Would you like to comment on that, Miss
[24:41]
» Would you like to comment on that, Miss
[24:41]
Gundy or?
[24:44]
>> Sure. Yeah. And just before we do that,
[24:46]
» Sure. Yeah. And just before we do that,
[24:46]
we'll take a there's been a an ask for a
[24:48]
quick timeout. I just um in that section
[24:52]
where it does say reasonable. I I've
[24:56]
always ch I know the language is there
[24:58]
to provide some flexibility and I just
[25:01]
but for
[25:03]
all the for all the reasons I I just
[25:06]
wondered about the use of reasonable
[25:08]
because it doesn't imply that everyone
[25:10]
involved in it is is that. So, I'm just
[25:13]
curious on if that's the best the best
[25:17]
um language for that. Although, I
[25:19]
understand why you'd want to put some
[25:22]
reasonable limits on it. It's just hard
[25:24]
to see it framed that way. So, um I'll
[25:26]
wait for a reply till after after this,
[25:29]
but maybe I'll just flush council, see
[25:30]
if there's any other questions just to
[25:32]
make sure that we're um we don't require
[25:34]
another timeout on this matter. Go
[25:36]
ahead, councelor Penning. Yeah, just
[25:38]
sort of thinking of um I guess my
[25:42]
understanding of conflict of interest is
[25:43]
it's on us individually to decide and
[25:45]
declare if we have a conflict. If we're
[25:47]
unsure, it's on us to individually seek
[25:51]
and and pay for legal counsel to get
[25:54]
that advice if we feel we're we're
[25:56]
unsure. Um, and whether we do or not,
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uh, if we proceed in good faith and
[26:04]
believing we're doing the right thing,
[26:05]
but then it turns out we were actually
[26:07]
offside. I had previously understood, we
[26:11]
would bear all the consequences
[26:12]
individually of that. When I see this,
[26:15]
this makes it seems like, you know, you
[26:18]
could sort of, well, I'm doing the best
[26:20]
I can. I don't have money to to have a
[26:22]
lawyer, and I'll be indemnified at the
[26:24]
end of the day if it doesn't work out. I
[26:26]
don't think that's what this is trying
[26:28]
to say, but that's what it seems to say.
[26:29]
I'm just I'm looking for a way to
[26:33]
understand why that case would be
[26:35]
excluded from indemnification if you
[26:38]
were acting in the best, you know, with
[26:42]
the best of intents, but it went south.
[26:45]
Why would this like I don't in the
[26:47]
exclusions, it's not clear or the limits
[26:49]
why that would not be covered.
[26:58]
Sorry, I I I'm not following the
[27:00]
question. Could you provide the specific
[27:02]
section or
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>> Well, I guess sort of say, you know,
[27:07]
» Well, I guess sort of say, you know,
[27:07]
there's an issue comes up. I decided to
[27:11]
vote on it or do whatever. I I thought I
[27:13]
didn't have a conflict of interest, so I
[27:14]
was proceeding what I thought was
[27:17]
correctly. Turns out at the end of the
[27:19]
day, uh someone some court or whatever
[27:21]
body decides I was wrong. there's some
[27:24]
liability coming to me. I had thought I
[27:27]
was stuck with that liability before
[27:29]
today. Um reading hearing the discussion
[27:34]
like when I look at the the limits this
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seems to say I would be covered. I would
[27:39]
be indemnified in that case but I don't
[27:41]
think that's what this is saying. So I'm
[27:43]
trying to understand why is that case
[27:46]
>> Could you point to the side of this
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» Could you point to the side of this
[27:47]
>> sorry could you just point to the
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» sorry could you just point to the
[27:49]
section that you've is that just sort of
[27:52]
a general takeaway or is there a
[27:53]
specific section
[27:55]
>> the limits on indemnification there's
[27:57]
» the limits on indemnification there's
[27:57]
nothing that says a counselor uh found
[27:59]
offside on conflict of interest is not
[28:02]
indemn or does not qualify for
[28:04]
indemnification there's nothing along
[28:06]
that sense so I'm trying to understand
[28:09]
um why again it's my understanding
[28:13]
this case would not be covered by this,
[28:15]
but I don't.
[28:16]
>> Okay. So, we have a question around
[28:18]
» Okay. So, we have a question around
[28:18]
conflict of interest. We can put this in
[28:19]
the after timeout. I don't know if that
[28:21]
or do you have a reply for the for how
[28:24]
that fits or would you like to group
[28:26]
that with the timeout matters?
[28:30]
>> Group that with the timeout matters and
[28:31]
» Group that with the timeout matters and
[28:31]
I'll have a crafted answer.
[28:33]
>> Okay. No, that's fine. And then I've got
[28:34]
» Okay. No, that's fine. And then I've got
[28:34]
Councelor Stoner and then I'd like then
[28:36]
we'll we'll go to the staff timeout.
[28:38]
We'll come back for another pass at
[28:40]
this. Councelor Stoner, go ahead. Yeah,
[28:42]
thanks to the chair. I think just I
[28:44]
wanted to add some reflections on the
[28:46]
word reasonable which I appreciate is
[28:48]
not defined um and is really difficult
[28:50]
to define especially in this context. I
[28:53]
think um from a process in a procedure
[28:56]
perspective I think reasonable is often
[28:58]
defined when you go out and seek
[29:02]
um like quotes for a legal cost for
[29:05]
example. And so I think adding some
[29:07]
discretion there by using the word
[29:08]
reasonable I think is fine. I think in
[29:11]
our procurement processes, we have ways
[29:13]
to guard rail against what is
[29:15]
reasonable. Um, and I just think it like
[29:18]
taking out that word makes this bylaw
[29:20]
really challenging to me and trying to
[29:22]
define it, I think, is near impossible.
[29:23]
So, I think there's other components of
[29:25]
our process in our system that help
[29:27]
guardrail the definition of reasonable.
[29:30]
>> Thank you for that. Um, and the last one
[29:33]
» Thank you for that. Um, and the last one
[29:33]
of the other pieces that I have is just
[29:34]
I I I do want to ask a question around
[29:36]
the uh in section 5.2F to F is it says
[29:40]
the provisions of this bylaw shall not
[29:42]
apply to a motion of center by the
[29:44]
district of Squamish Council. So I'm
[29:45]
just curious on how that interplays here
[29:47]
and to I was expecting that as part of
[29:49]
the answer from the code of conduct
[29:51]
piece maybe. So I you know because uh
[29:55]
censure is something that could flow
[29:57]
from the code of conduct. So that's sort
[29:59]
of where I was one of the things I was
[30:01]
trying to get at with that question but
[30:02]
I'll leave that till after the time the
[30:04]
timeout. Anything else before we go?
[30:06]
Councelor Hamilton, go ahead.
[30:08]
>> Maybe just confirming. So I read through
[30:10]
» Maybe just confirming. So I read through
[30:10]
the LGA and I think uh Miss Vonlutoo,
[30:13]
the section you were referring to was
[30:15]
section uh 742
[30:18]
A2,
[30:20]
the municipal officials ability. If you
[30:22]
could just confirm that on the timeout
[30:24]
and then we'll be on the same page.
[30:27]
>> That's 5.3 in the uh B.
[30:33]
We're going to grant the timeout and
[30:35]
then we will uh we'll address that
[30:36]
because there's an easy answer for that
[30:38]
one. So, um I feel like five minutes is
[30:41]
the minimum for for for this. Would you
[30:44]
like 10?
[30:46]
10. Let's take 10. We'll take a
[30:47]
10-minute break and we'll reconvene at
[30:50]
uh 6:42.
[40:03]
All right, welcome back. We're back from
[40:04]
a quick um timeout for staff. So, I will
[40:08]
go to to to CEO Glendy.
[40:13]
>> Thank you. through the mayor. Uh I will
[40:15]
» Thank you. through the mayor. Uh I will
[40:15]
answer the question about the CEO um
[40:18]
being
[40:19]
uh the determiner of the reasonable
[40:21]
costs in section 3. Uh it's a great
[40:24]
question. Um
[40:26]
the purpose of that is financial
[40:28]
control. And so the suggestion is to
[40:31]
prevent it being a one-on-one with CEO
[40:33]
and council is to include uh or amend
[40:37]
this bylaw first three readings of the
[40:39]
amendment to include with and CFO and
[40:42]
chief financial officer and then that
[40:44]
way there's the a financial control with
[40:45]
a second signature or the second person
[40:48]
vetting the costs that then get approved
[40:50]
by MIBC or not. So that is a solution
[40:53]
for that and that's the answer for that
[40:57]
one and I will do the chair pass it back
[40:59]
to Miss Vonto for the other answers.
[41:01]
>> Okay. So just um on that one does anyone
[41:05]
» Okay. So just um on that one does anyone
[41:05]
have questions about that response and
[41:07]
thank you for the for a suggestion that
[41:09]
addresses the concern. I'll just go to
[41:10]
councelor Hamilton. I think it was your
[41:12]
question that sort of took us down this
[41:14]
path.
[41:16]
>> Yeah thanks. Um
[41:20]
» Yeah thanks. Um
[41:20]
I think my concern was in in many ways
[41:22]
addressed by the
[41:25]
clearer understanding of section uh 5.3.
[41:29]
Uh but I do think that uh adding a
[41:33]
signature here or adding a a partner in
[41:36]
the determination uh I think makes the
[41:38]
whole bylaw stronger and makes our
[41:40]
policies and procedures stronger. Uh so
[41:43]
yeah, I would certainly u I'll make a
[41:46]
motion to add that if if needed.
[41:50]
>> Okay, we'll deal with that when we we
[41:51]
» Okay, we'll deal with that when we we
[41:51]
get there. Um thank you for that. Um
[41:54]
anyone else on this particular piece,
[41:56]
Councelor Penning? So does this imply
[41:59]
that as part of our budget uh that
[42:01]
somewhere there's a legal envelope there
[42:05]
going forward we might be a bit more
[42:06]
explicit of like this is the bucket we
[42:08]
have for the CFO and CIO to possibly
[42:12]
address these things for the coming year
[42:13]
and so council sort of uh approves an
[42:17]
envelope annually and and then sort of
[42:20]
within that envelope would apply this
[42:22]
bylaw
[42:26]
Oh yeah, whoever would like to speak to
[42:29]
uh I guess how we allocate legal into
[42:32]
our budgeting.
[42:34]
>> Uh
[42:36]
» Uh
[42:36]
corporate uh administration has a
[42:39]
general legal bucket that we uh set
[42:42]
aside annually to cover all legal costs
[42:44]
that are associated with the dis or most
[42:46]
of the legal claims that are associated
[42:48]
with the district. And at the moment
[42:51]
we've never had an issue with uh
[42:54]
overruns from that budget
[43:00]
» and any expenditure even under this
[43:02]
would need to be inside of the budgeted
[43:04]
amount just to state the
[43:07]
further that point. Um any other
[43:09]
questions on on this before we go back
[43:11]
for the answer on the second question
[43:13]
which I'm forgetting what it was at this
[43:14]
point. Oh go ahead councelor son. Uh,
[43:16]
can I just seek some clarity on the
[43:18]
proposed amendment and how that would
[43:19]
intersect with our general procurement
[43:21]
policies and so like there's a threshold
[43:24]
like I don't want to make this an overly
[43:26]
cumbersome process and we already
[43:28]
require multiple signatures on larger
[43:31]
expenses. So I'm just curious if this
[43:32]
just feels like a redundancy to an
[43:34]
existing parallel process that would be
[43:37]
highlighted or initiated anyways out of
[43:41]
this.
[43:44]
the current um I'm trying to think of
[43:47]
the bylaw is is it the delegation bylaw
[43:49]
that refers to spending authority
[43:53]
indicates that um all general managers
[43:55]
have a certain threshold which includes
[43:57]
the CFO after which the CEO has
[44:00]
discretion up to basically the budget.
[44:03]
Um, I think if we're talking about
[44:07]
like part of this is essentially what is
[44:09]
reasonable to be indemnified by MIAC or
[44:13]
indemnified by the district. Um, if
[44:16]
there's a concern about a power
[44:18]
discrepancy with the
[44:21]
one person agreeing to the amount, then
[44:23]
adding a second signature provides that
[44:26]
financial control and eliminates that
[44:28]
power discrepancy which with this
[44:30]
particular bylaw doesn't exist in a
[44:32]
process in our procurement policy.
[44:36]
>> Thank you for that context. Um I will go
[44:39]
» Thank you for that context. Um I will go
[44:39]
to staff now to answer on the second
[44:41]
question which I've forgotten what it
[44:43]
was but I'll go to you.
[44:45]
>> Uh the second question I believe was
[44:47]
» Uh the second question I believe was
[44:47]
around conflict of interest and if a
[44:51]
council member would be indemnified if
[44:54]
they inadvertently
[44:58]
have a legal claim arising from a
[45:01]
conflict of interest scenario. Is that
[45:04]
my understand? Is that correct? Uh, I
[45:07]
believe councelor Penning, does that
[45:08]
capture your your concern? You're asking
[45:10]
about the about this piece around
[45:13]
conflict.
[45:15]
>> Well, let's take the answer and we'll
[45:16]
» Well, let's take the answer and we'll
[45:16]
see if it addresses your concern. Does
[45:17]
that
[45:21]
» Okay.
[45:21]
>> Okay. Uh, the first thing I'd like to
[45:24]
» Okay. Uh, the first thing I'd like to
[45:24]
state is that the purpose of the
[45:26]
indemnification bylaw is to protect
[45:28]
officials,
[45:30]
you included, that who are acting in
[45:32]
good faith while doing their jobs.
[45:35]
uh it's to prevent and then some of the
[45:37]
restrictions in the bylaw are to prevent
[45:40]
the use of public money for shielding
[45:42]
personal misconduct. So it's I think the
[45:46]
key word around this is acting in good
[45:48]
faith.
[45:50]
Um and then in terms of the conflict of
[45:52]
interest component
[45:55]
the limits on indemnification.
[45:58]
So this is what uh the district will not
[46:02]
cover in terms of legal claims and
[46:04]
conflict of interest is not included in
[46:06]
here and it's important to note that
[46:09]
most of these elements except for a
[46:11]
couple are u directly from the
[46:14]
legislation. So council has the
[46:17]
discretion to be more restrictive and
[46:20]
limit more
[46:22]
limit the number of things that will be
[46:24]
covered through the indemnification
[46:25]
bylaw. So, right now, the way it's
[46:28]
written,
[46:29]
conflict of interest claims would likely
[46:32]
be covered. Unless there's a conviction
[46:34]
and there's a fine issued, then the
[46:36]
district couldn't pay the fine. Um,
[46:41]
council has the discretion though to
[46:44]
totally eliminate covering conflict of
[46:47]
interest claims that may arise by
[46:49]
including that in this section. Is that
[46:52]
clear?
[46:53]
>> I think so. So I think one of the risks
[46:56]
» I think so. So I think one of the risks
[46:56]
that happens in the in can one of the
[46:59]
risks that exists in these roles is
[47:01]
someone could bring at any point in time
[47:03]
a conflict of interest um matter forward
[47:07]
uh even if it was frivolous I would need
[47:09]
to go through a a legal process and I
[47:11]
think there's a difference between um h
[47:14]
being um having that happen and it
[47:19]
ultimately being not coming to uh being
[47:22]
dismissed or coming to some other
[47:23]
conclusion. usion versus oh yeah there
[47:25]
was a conflict here and there's a
[47:26]
penalty and if there's a penalty then
[47:27]
our indemnification wouldn't apply. Is
[47:29]
that correct?
[47:32]
>> That's my understanding. Yes. So that's
[47:36]
» That's my understanding. Yes. So that's
[47:36]
the sa the safety the safety net here
[47:39]
and I think it's
[47:41]
I think that's reasonable and I think
[47:44]
without that sitting in these seats
[47:46]
becomes even harder than it than it is
[47:49]
because we're open to um um to this to
[47:55]
this risk that could just
[47:59]
you know I don't know how else to it's
[48:00]
it's it's not appropriate I think to be
[48:03]
exposed to that to that risk unless you
[48:05]
did something that was ultimately found
[48:08]
guilty for and and there's a penalty and
[48:10]
I think that this addresses addresses
[48:12]
that. I'll go to you councelor Penning
[48:13]
then I've got councelor Stoner.
[48:15]
>> Yeah, maybe not a topic of discussion
[48:17]
» Yeah, maybe not a topic of discussion
[48:17]
for tonight but it seems to me it might
[48:19]
make more sense for us to set aside a
[48:22]
bit of a funds where if you are unsure
[48:26]
there's some support to get that uh as a
[48:29]
counselor a clear legal advice on
[48:31]
conflict. So you're, you know, you're
[48:33]
not sort of saying, "Oh, maybe I can
[48:35]
take a risk and try and do my best
[48:37]
without a lawyer, which seems to be sort
[48:39]
of where this is pushing us and
[48:40]
hopefully we'll catch it on the back end
[48:42]
as opposed to like actually have a very
[48:44]
high standard and maybe less
[48:46]
indemnification if you're offsite on
[48:48]
conflict because you would have had the
[48:50]
ability to check in with legal at the
[48:52]
start before doing anything wrong." But
[48:54]
I think um yeah, thank you for that. I I
[48:57]
have seen some uh renumeration bylaws
[48:59]
that that include the ability to to use
[49:02]
some discretionary funds for or some
[49:05]
funds for um uh a conflict conflict of
[49:10]
interest consult legal consult or
[49:12]
something like that up to a certain
[49:13]
amount. So I think that's where that I
[49:16]
like that suggestion but I think that is
[49:18]
um is is important but is outside of
[49:20]
this obviously it'll interact with this.
[49:22]
Do you have thoughts on this?
[49:24]
>> I do. So, I I don't have the language in
[49:27]
» I do. So, I I don't have the language in
[49:27]
front of me exactly, but the code of
[49:28]
conduct bylaw does allow for counselors
[49:31]
to seek approval from the CAO for a
[49:34]
legal opinion if it's related to
[49:35]
conflict of interest. So, that language
[49:38]
is written into the code of conduct by
[49:40]
law and the intention isn't to
[49:46]
have all matters, you know, if they're
[49:48]
if they're tangent tangential,
[49:52]
uh, go for a legal opinion. But if
[49:53]
someone is truly concerned, there is an
[49:57]
avenue through the code of conduct bylaw
[49:59]
to seek a legal opinion that is covered
[50:02]
by the district.
[50:04]
>> Okay. Um, councelor Stoner, I I think
[50:07]
» Okay. Um, councelor Stoner, I I think
[50:07]
you're next to my speaker's list.
[50:09]
>> Yeah. Just trying to consider this
[50:11]
» Yeah. Just trying to consider this
[50:11]
component around conflict of interest on
[50:14]
the limitations list 5.1b
[50:17]
specifically says willfully acted
[50:19]
contrary to the terms of their
[50:20]
employment. Um, and I had originally
[50:23]
flagged that because that's employment
[50:25]
is generally a difficult word for those
[50:28]
on this side of the table because we're
[50:30]
not technically employees.
[50:32]
Um, and so I wonder if it's worth adding
[50:36]
in a bullet around like willfully acted
[50:38]
contrary to the terms of their oath of
[50:40]
office or in contrary to the community
[50:43]
charter or the code of conduct to kind
[50:47]
of capture
[50:48]
that component. And I I don't know if
[50:51]
I'm ready to propose that today off the
[50:53]
fly because I haven't thought through
[50:55]
the potential negative implications
[50:56]
thereof.
[50:58]
Um but I wonder if there's if staff have
[51:01]
any thoughts around that like weighing
[51:03]
of contrary or like willfully acted
[51:06]
contrary to the terms of their
[51:07]
employment and how that can be reflected
[51:10]
or if it is already reflected in the
[51:13]
other language there for council members
[51:16]
who are not employees.
[51:24]
Uh the number was 5.1B.
[51:32]
» I don't know.
[51:32]
>> I mean I do think that 5.1A maybe just
[51:34]
» I mean I do think that 5.1A maybe just
[51:34]
does it like been guilty of dishonesty,
[51:37]
gross negligence, malicious or willful
[51:39]
misconduct is maybe sufficient.
[51:42]
Um,
[51:47]
but that's maybe more for my council
[51:48]
colleagues to consider if they feel like
[51:51]
that is sufficient and strong enough
[51:53]
given the other avenues that we have as
[51:55]
well with code of conduct.
[51:57]
>> Oh,
[51:57]
» Oh,
[51:57]
>> layered in here.
[51:59]
» layered in here.
[51:59]
>> Uh, yeah, when I was reading that that
[52:01]
» Uh, yeah, when I was reading that that
[52:02]
this document that piece felt like it
[52:04]
didn't apply to me. it applied to the
[52:06]
the employee piece, but there's also
[52:09]
nothing that really separates out those
[52:11]
categories in the document itself. So,
[52:14]
is that sort of the in the intent there?
[52:16]
It's not meant to cover
[52:18]
I know I agree with the spirit of it,
[52:20]
but just the letter of it really seems
[52:22]
to speak more towards employees than um
[52:24]
elected officials.
[52:27]
>> Through the mayor, I would agree that it
[52:28]
» Through the mayor, I would agree that it
[52:28]
speaks more towards employees than
[52:30]
elected officials and there is a
[52:31]
differentiation there.
[52:35]
Okay. And I don't think that this is a
[52:38]
these matters are large enough uh
[52:42]
or or that we need two separate like we
[52:43]
don't need two separate versions of this
[52:45]
to cover like to parse that out. I think
[52:48]
this makes good sense to me that some
[52:50]
pieces the wording is just not for us.
[52:52]
The wordings for staff. Um any other
[52:54]
questions
[52:57]
on this?
[53:00]
Um
[53:01]
I'm going to look to councelor Hamilton.
[53:03]
I think we might be ready for a motion
[53:06]
that may
[53:08]
>> amendment. So I will um move the staff
[53:11]
» amendment. So I will um move the staff
[53:11]
recommendation that the district of
[53:13]
Squamish identification bylaw be given
[53:16]
first,
[53:18]
second and third readings with the
[53:20]
addition of
[53:22]
uh
[53:24]
and CFO or and chief financial officer
[53:29]
after chief administrative officer in
[53:31]
section three.
[53:43]
Okay. Um, are you seconding that that
[53:45]
motion? And um I like to minute taker.
[53:48]
Does that was that clear? Okay. Uh, go
[53:51]
ahead, counselor.
[53:53]
>> Thanks very much. Um,
[53:55]
» Thanks very much. Um,
[53:56]
this the indemnification bylaw. Uh, I
[54:00]
think this is a really important piece
[54:02]
of our municipal framework. Uh, and like
[54:05]
so many things in my first term here on
[54:07]
council, um, you didn't really didn't
[54:10]
really reflect on how important these
[54:11]
things are until you read it in the
[54:14]
bylaw and think about all of the ways
[54:16]
that things can go, um, uh, sideways for
[54:22]
for all kinds of various reasons. And I
[54:24]
think it's important that we have um a
[54:27]
bylaw that helps us and supports
[54:31]
employees and counselors in the event
[54:34]
that there is some under the honest and
[54:39]
um in under the honest carrying out of
[54:41]
their duties uh happen to fall into uh
[54:45]
some kind of legal dispute. Um and then
[54:48]
if they are guilty of those uh offenses
[54:51]
that they are held uh to account. I
[54:53]
think it's important that we have that
[54:54]
and I absolutely recognize it's
[54:56]
difficult to define those things and
[54:58]
that's why we're here tonight and I
[55:00]
think this bylaw does a pretty good job
[55:02]
of defining them as best we can. Thanks.
[55:06]
>> Thank you. Other comment I'll go to the
[55:08]
» Thank you. Other comment I'll go to the
[55:08]
secondary and then I'll go around. Go
[55:10]
ahead.
[55:12]
Uh it's important that bylaws like this
[55:15]
get regular review and um I'm happy that
[55:19]
uh this one is in front of us getting
[55:22]
the modernization that um it's being
[55:25]
given and a little bit of um extra
[55:29]
spice. Thank you um councelor Hamilton
[55:32]
and and the rest of council for the
[55:34]
discussion to um to get us to the place
[55:37]
we're recognizing adding the CFO in
[55:39]
section 3 is um a prudent thing to do.
[55:42]
Um and um thank you staff for the good
[55:46]
work to get this in front of us.
[55:48]
>> Thank you councelor Steart.
[55:50]
» Thank you councelor Steart.
[55:50]
>> Yeah, thank you the chair. Happy to
[55:51]
» Yeah, thank you the chair. Happy to
[55:51]
support the motion on the floor uh and
[55:53]
the updated bylaw in front of us. I
[55:56]
think it's important to note that this
[55:57]
is not necessarily new identification
[55:59]
that we're providing to council and
[56:01]
staff. It's an update to a bylaw that is
[56:04]
was originally written in 1998 and
[56:06]
brings it, as councelor French said, up
[56:08]
to more modern standards and reflects
[56:09]
the current wording in the local
[56:11]
government act and the community
[56:12]
charter. Um, so I think this is just
[56:15]
good prudence on our part to make sure
[56:17]
that our bylaws are up to date and
[56:19]
reflective of current practices.
[56:22]
>> Thank you for that, Councelor Penning.
[56:24]
» Thank you for that, Councelor Penning.
[56:24]
Yeah, I think I'm going to support this.
[56:25]
I think I'm I'm a bit intrigued by my
[56:27]
colleagues comment, you know, whether or
[56:29]
not we would limit indemnification for
[56:32]
when there's a code of conduct or oath
[56:34]
of office violation, those two in
[56:35]
particular. Um, and I guess, you know,
[56:39]
part of me is like, yes, if you've
[56:41]
willfully violated those things, I don't
[56:43]
think we should be indemnifying you, but
[56:46]
I'm not sure there's a case where you
[56:48]
only violated those where you would need
[56:51]
indemnifica. like it may be a
[56:53]
non-existent use case. And so that's why
[56:56]
I'm not sure if that's one to push on,
[56:57]
but um I'll just sort of flag and maybe
[57:00]
if staff has a moment to sort of see is
[57:02]
this even a real thing because I I do
[57:05]
feel a bit uncomfortable with the idea
[57:06]
of I guess I'm looking for some
[57:09]
alignment like if you've acted contrary
[57:11]
to the terms of your employment or your
[57:13]
oath of office or your code of conduct
[57:17]
maybe makes a little more sense. Um, I
[57:20]
guess I'll leave it there for now, but
[57:21]
that's the one piece I'm struggling with
[57:23]
a little bit.
[57:25]
>> Thank you. Any other comments? Um, just
[57:28]
» Thank you. Any other comments? Um, just
[57:28]
in in reply, I think the um uh the
[57:31]
answers I I for for me personally, the
[57:33]
the answers that I received from staff
[57:35]
were this is really that external thing.
[57:37]
So, when it goes past a code of conduct
[57:39]
and I think if you violate your oath of
[57:41]
office, it's these other processes that
[57:42]
would do that would determine that. So,
[57:45]
um I'm I'm comfortable with where we
[57:47]
are. I do think that um as councelor
[57:51]
Stoner um stated uh this is a an update
[57:55]
to a very old uh bylaw and the um the
[58:00]
legislation that it relates to has has
[58:03]
changed in that time and this is a
[58:04]
modernization. I think it's important to
[58:08]
um for folks to to understand that this
[58:11]
isn't this isn't about creating a a
[58:15]
shield for elected officials that have
[58:17]
done something that is off that is
[58:19]
offside or in this case illegal. Uh by
[58:24]
um uh it's about ensuring that we uh
[58:27]
that these seats are and these roles are
[58:31]
reasonable things that people could be
[58:32]
expected to participate in. And I think
[58:34]
without the reasonable protections that
[58:36]
this provides, I would have a very hard
[58:38]
time um sitting in these in these seats
[58:41]
uh without these these protections. But
[58:44]
again, this does not provide uh
[58:46]
protections um uh where folks have
[58:49]
clearly gone into the uh um uh clearly
[58:54]
offside. Uh so happy to to support this
[58:57]
and um I do think that after uh if this
[59:02]
when this gets used I would expect to
[59:05]
I'm happy that it sat for so long in so
[59:07]
much as it doesn't feel like it's been
[59:08]
used very often. So, I'd imagine that
[59:10]
going forward if this does get used that
[59:12]
that um it continues to be to be refined
[59:15]
uh to ensure that it's not that it's
[59:17]
performing its duty and um and not more
[59:21]
than it's intended to, which is the
[59:23]
which I think is really important. With
[59:24]
that, I'll call the question. All in
[59:26]
favor?
[59:27]
Motion carries unanimously. Thank you.
[1:00:15]
So, our next order of business is
[1:00:16]
section uh 8A1
[1:00:19]
uh landback task force terms of
[1:00:21]
reference and appointments. So, staff
[1:00:25]
are just getting set up for the
[1:00:26]
presentation and we'll get underway when
[1:00:28]
they're ready to do so.
[1:00:50]
The floor is yours when you're ready.
[1:00:52]
>> Uh, thank you very much to the chair.
[1:00:54]
» Uh, thank you very much to the chair.
[1:00:54]
Good evening, council public who uh are
[1:00:57]
watching online and in the audience. My
[1:00:59]
name is Linda Glende. I'm the chief
[1:01:01]
administrative officer here at the
[1:01:02]
district. Uh I am joined by Ms. Asia
[1:01:06]
Peterson who will introduce herself in a
[1:01:08]
moment and we are presenting about the
[1:01:11]
landback task force which is a priority
[1:01:13]
activity in the memorandum of
[1:01:15]
understanding with Squamish Nation.
[1:01:19]
Hello um mayor and council. My name is
[1:01:21]
Asia Peterson and I'm the projects and
[1:01:23]
research coordinator. privileged to be
[1:01:26]
here tonight and honored to be working
[1:01:28]
on the traditional unseated territory of
[1:01:30]
the Squamish people.
[1:01:34]
Thank you. So, as Linda mentioned, we
[1:01:36]
are here tonight to present on the
[1:01:38]
proposed terms of reference and to seek
[1:01:41]
three appointments to the landback task
[1:01:42]
force. On March 4th, Squamish Netian
[1:01:46]
Council approved the terms of reference
[1:01:47]
that you'll see and appointed three of
[1:01:49]
their own council members to join the
[1:01:51]
task force as well. Next, Uh just a bit
[1:01:55]
of background on this report that I'll
[1:01:56]
highlight. In 2018, council formally
[1:01:59]
recognized the United N um nations
[1:02:02]
declaration on the rights of indigenous
[1:02:04]
people, otherwise known as UNRIP. And in
[1:02:07]
building on our own relationship with
[1:02:08]
Squamish Nation in 2023, council signed
[1:02:12]
the Wima Squomish Protocol Agreement,
[1:02:15]
which led to the development and signing
[1:02:17]
of the memorandum of understanding
[1:02:18]
between the two governments in 2025. So
[1:02:21]
this built on a long um history between
[1:02:24]
the partnership of the partnership with
[1:02:25]
Squamish Nation and was a significant
[1:02:28]
step forward in our rec reconciliation
[1:02:30]
journey. The establishment of a landback
[1:02:32]
task force was identified as a priority
[1:02:35]
activity in theou.
[1:02:40]
In both the protocol agreement and theou
[1:02:43]
principles are outlined to help guide
[1:02:45]
this work in an intentional way. So I
[1:02:47]
just wanted to highlight them here
[1:02:48]
before we begin. Listen and engage.
[1:02:51]
Follow the ways of the Skomish.
[1:02:54]
Genuinely care. Learn the advice of the
[1:02:56]
Skomeish. The people go through it
[1:02:58]
together.
[1:03:00]
And protect the rights and title of the
[1:03:01]
Skomeish.
[1:03:04]
So before we review the details of the
[1:03:06]
terms of reference, I wanted to take a
[1:03:08]
minute to highlight the concept of
[1:03:09]
landback. This is an intentional term
[1:03:12]
that we use. Landback is a
[1:03:14]
reconciliationdriven initiative that
[1:03:16]
acknowledges the impacts of colonization
[1:03:18]
on indigenous people. It aims to restore
[1:03:21]
governance, stewardship, and cultural
[1:03:23]
connections to land. So in this context,
[1:03:26]
landback is referenced in theou and it
[1:03:29]
means exploring possibilities for the
[1:03:31]
return or the co-management of public
[1:03:34]
lands in a way in a way that respects
[1:03:36]
Squamish nation rights and title.
[1:03:38]
Landback is not a threat to private
[1:03:40]
property. It's about reconciliation and
[1:03:42]
moving forward together. It's not about
[1:03:44]
exclusion.
[1:03:48]
Um, so in turning to the terms of
[1:03:50]
reference, as I mentioned earlier, the
[1:03:52]
task force will have three
[1:03:53]
representatives from each government.
[1:03:55]
Squamish Nation appointed all three of
[1:03:57]
the Squamish Valley counselors earlier
[1:03:59]
this month. Diana Lewis, Anthony Joseph,
[1:04:02]
and Johnny Williams. The terms of
[1:04:04]
reference outlines that this is a
[1:04:06]
timelmited task force. It will exist
[1:04:08]
until 2028 or until project deliverables
[1:04:11]
have been met and the task force will
[1:04:13]
meet on a quarterly basis.
[1:04:17]
So now I just wanted to highlight um the
[1:04:19]
structure of the task force. This um
[1:04:23]
graphic is an overview of what the
[1:04:25]
structure will look like. Staff from
[1:04:27]
both organizations will provide the
[1:04:29]
research, administrative and technical
[1:04:31]
support and will develop work plans for
[1:04:33]
task force approval. The task force will
[1:04:36]
inform, advise and engage the community
[1:04:38]
on this work and then all
[1:04:40]
recommendations will go to both
[1:04:42]
respective councils for final
[1:04:44]
independent deliberation and decision-m
[1:04:49]
I now wanted to highlight some of the
[1:04:50]
roles and responsibilities of the task
[1:04:52]
force. Really the function of the task
[1:04:55]
force is to serve as a coordinated
[1:04:57]
research and engagement mechanism
[1:04:59]
between the two governments. It's to
[1:05:01]
coordinate research efforts looking into
[1:05:03]
landback opportunities.
[1:05:05]
So once the task force is established,
[1:05:07]
they'll approve work plans and a
[1:05:09]
communications and engagement plan. The
[1:05:11]
task force will review and analyze the
[1:05:13]
research that staff produces. They'll
[1:05:16]
provide guidance on community engagement
[1:05:18]
and dialogue opportunities. And then
[1:05:20]
based on the on this research and
[1:05:22]
community engagement process, the task
[1:05:24]
force will make recommendations on a
[1:05:25]
framework. Those recommendations would
[1:05:27]
go up to each council independently for
[1:05:29]
consideration and decision-m. The task
[1:05:32]
force itself does not have
[1:05:34]
decision-making authority.
[1:05:37]
Next slide.
[1:05:40]
So in terms of the scope at this time,
[1:05:42]
the scope of the task force is limited
[1:05:44]
to exploring, researching and engaging
[1:05:47]
district residents and Squamish people
[1:05:49]
on the topic of landback. Some of the
[1:05:52]
areas areas that the task force could
[1:05:54]
explore include the nation's historic
[1:05:56]
continued connection to their to their
[1:05:59]
traditional territory, reestablishing
[1:06:02]
cultural and linguistic connections to
[1:06:04]
the land,
[1:06:06]
um ways to enable shared decision-m or
[1:06:08]
co-management of lands, potential policy
[1:06:11]
updates,
[1:06:12]
ways to support or advocate for Squamish
[1:06:14]
Nation as it relates to crown land, and
[1:06:17]
any other initiatives that might be
[1:06:19]
identified. One thing that we should
[1:06:20]
emphasize is that private property is
[1:06:23]
not involved with the scope of this task
[1:06:24]
force.
[1:06:28]
So, some of the examples that the task
[1:06:29]
force could consider making
[1:06:31]
recommendations related to are things
[1:06:33]
like co-management of parks and
[1:06:35]
protected areas, restoring original
[1:06:38]
place names, granting exclusive access
[1:06:41]
to cultural sites for Scoomish people,
[1:06:44]
facilitating access to traditional
[1:06:46]
harvesting sites,
[1:06:48]
um exploring opportunities to recommend
[1:06:50]
policy updates for district land
[1:06:52]
dispositions or leases. Again, these are
[1:06:55]
just some examples. There'll be other
[1:06:56]
opportunities that haven't been
[1:06:58]
identified yet.
[1:07:01]
So, finally, um, community learning and
[1:07:04]
dialogue opportunities are central to
[1:07:06]
this work. We know that these topics are
[1:07:08]
complex and nuanced. So, as a first
[1:07:10]
step, we're focused on providing
[1:07:12]
community learning opportunities. We'll
[1:07:14]
be providing a ton of resources on our
[1:07:16]
website and leveraging our library's
[1:07:18]
capacity to support residents in better
[1:07:20]
understanding these topics. A
[1:07:22]
comprehensive trauma-informed committee
[1:07:24]
engagement plan will also be shared and
[1:07:26]
approved by the task force.
[1:07:29]
So, in returning to the recommendations
[1:07:31]
for consideration, we'll leave it here.
[1:07:34]
Thank you for your time and we're happy
[1:07:35]
to answer any questions you have.
[1:07:39]
>> Thank you very much. Council, do you
[1:07:42]
» Thank you very much. Council, do you
[1:07:42]
have questions for our staff at this
[1:07:45]
time?
[1:07:48]
>> Councelor French.
[1:07:51]
U thanks Mayor Herford. Um think that
[1:07:54]
this is a a bit of a housekeeping
[1:07:56]
question. Um with the meetings that are
[1:08:01]
expected to be ahead of us um held in
[1:08:04]
spaces provided by each organization as
[1:08:07]
we see in the report, I'm I'm guessing
[1:08:08]
the district space will likely be this
[1:08:10]
chamber or within u municipal hall. And
[1:08:13]
I'm wondering has the Squamish Nation
[1:08:15]
indicated their space of choice? Is it
[1:08:17]
Totem Hall or another location? is is is
[1:08:22]
there um maybe an indication that the
[1:08:25]
Squamish Nation would like meetings to
[1:08:27]
be held in North Vancouver? Can you give
[1:08:29]
us any insight into that?
[1:08:32]
>> Oh, sorry. Thank you. Through the chair.
[1:08:34]
» Oh, sorry. Thank you. Through the chair.
[1:08:34]
Um I think since all of the um appointed
[1:08:37]
members from Squamish Nation are from
[1:08:39]
Squamish Valley, Totem Hall would likely
[1:08:42]
be the space to convene.
[1:08:47]
Thank you for that very practical
[1:08:49]
consideration. Uh councelor Stoner,
[1:08:52]
>> thank you chair uh and thanks to staff
[1:08:54]
» thank you chair uh and thanks to staff
[1:08:54]
for the very clear presentation and
[1:08:57]
report in our package this evening. Um
[1:09:00]
you mentioned that it's a time limited
[1:09:02]
task force to 2028 or until such time
[1:09:06]
that the task force has completed its
[1:09:09]
outcomes. Um I'm just wondering if you
[1:09:12]
can speak to why 2028 was selected as
[1:09:15]
kind of the end date.
[1:09:17]
>> Yeah, through the chair. Um the 2028
[1:09:20]
» Yeah, through the chair. Um the 2028
[1:09:20]
deadline was selected because that's
[1:09:22]
where we've identified priorities in
[1:09:24]
theou. It was from 25 2025 to 2028. So
[1:09:28]
we put that timeline on it to align with
[1:09:30]
theou.
[1:09:35]
» Thank you councelor Penning. Yeah, just
[1:09:38]
curious if you can remind us because
[1:09:40]
we've also committed to meet council to
[1:09:42]
council with Squamish Nation more
[1:09:44]
frequently if if we know um sort of how
[1:09:47]
that um intersects with this and would
[1:09:50]
this task force uh sort of report when
[1:09:54]
the broader council council meetings or
[1:09:55]
does it more come to our individual sort
[1:09:58]
of staff and councils and sort of
[1:10:00]
separate from the the more the broaderou
[1:10:02]
council council meetings.
[1:10:07]
Thank you for the question through the
[1:10:09]
chair. Um I would say it's it's both and
[1:10:12]
um that there will be times when staff
[1:10:15]
come to council and council needs to
[1:10:17]
make their own decision in district
[1:10:19]
chambers as an example and same with
[1:10:21]
Squamish Nation Council and the
[1:10:23]
opportunity for the Lambback task force
[1:10:25]
themselves to present to both councils
[1:10:28]
at the same time would likely prove
[1:10:30]
fruitful.
[1:10:34]
» Okay. Um any other questions for staff?
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Councelor Stoner.
[1:10:38]
>> Yeah, thank you through the chair. Uh
[1:10:41]
» Yeah, thank you through the chair. Uh
[1:10:41]
also appreciate the clarity on the focus
[1:10:43]
here on public lands. Um I'm curious if
[1:10:46]
there's been any dialogue amongst staff
[1:10:48]
in the development of the terms of
[1:10:50]
reference of inviting other orders of
[1:10:53]
government in. Much of the public land
[1:10:55]
that exists within the boundaries of the
[1:10:57]
District of Squamish are crown lands. Um
[1:11:00]
and so how do we start to address this
[1:11:02]
conversation or is that a topic for the
[1:11:04]
task force to do um of what that looks
[1:11:07]
like?
[1:11:09]
>> Thank you. Through the chair, I would
[1:11:10]
» Thank you. Through the chair, I would
[1:11:10]
say it's the latter. So at this point,
[1:11:13]
staff are bringing terms of reference
[1:11:15]
for each council to approve. Following
[1:11:18]
that, the task force themselves would
[1:11:20]
would commence that work.
[1:11:23]
Um and just and
[1:11:25]
I think that point is is is very
[1:11:28]
important and in the in the terms of
[1:11:31]
reference and scope uh the second bullet
[1:11:35]
point from the bottom I guess is the way
[1:11:36]
to describe that it's not numbered
[1:11:38]
support or advocate for scholar nation
[1:11:39]
as it relates to crown land dispositions
[1:11:42]
that doesn't quite cover the the
[1:11:43]
totality of the interacting with the uh
[1:11:46]
crown more broadly but there's um
[1:11:48]
definitely sort of recognition of that
[1:11:50]
there but I do think much of the terms
[1:11:52]
of reference um uh I would expect the
[1:11:56]
group jointly to look at this together
[1:11:58]
and see if there's room to move at this
[1:11:59]
point. Any changes to the to the um to
[1:12:04]
the terms of reference uh would need to
[1:12:06]
be negotiated with the Squamish Nation.
[1:12:08]
I do think this the task force is the
[1:12:11]
best mechanism to sort recommend
[1:12:12]
whatever those changes would be back to
[1:12:14]
their joint to their their own um board
[1:12:18]
or governance structure.
[1:12:20]
Um,
[1:12:22]
I'm not seeing any further hands for
[1:12:26]
questions. So, I would like to I will
[1:12:29]
move uh that council approve the terms
[1:12:32]
of reference for the landback task force
[1:12:33]
and appoint three members of council to
[1:12:35]
serve on the landback task force as
[1:12:37]
follows. Mayor Hurford, councelor
[1:12:39]
Stoner, and councelor Anderson. And I'll
[1:12:41]
speak to it if it's seconded. Second by
[1:12:43]
councelor French. Thank you. I think um
[1:12:47]
this is incredibly um important work. Um
[1:12:51]
and I'm going to read directly from the
[1:12:55]
um from the terms of reference. The
[1:12:57]
Lambach task force exists to research,
[1:12:59]
learn, and engage both District of
[1:13:01]
Squamish residents and Squamish people
[1:13:04]
on the concept of landback. Its primary
[1:13:06]
goal is to develop a framework for land
[1:13:08]
back in the District of Squamish,
[1:13:10]
including policy considerations for
[1:13:11]
future public land dispositions by the
[1:13:13]
District of Squamish and joint use of
[1:13:15]
district lands. I think this is in um
[1:13:19]
incredibly important that we um
[1:13:23]
that we have this dialogue with uh the
[1:13:26]
Squam with the Squamish Nation directly
[1:13:28]
and with our community around what um
[1:13:33]
what this is and what it isn't. We've
[1:13:35]
heard a little bit in the presentation
[1:13:36]
around what this what this uh isn't in
[1:13:39]
it is not something that's um and we do
[1:13:42]
not have the juris the the entity itself
[1:13:45]
the task force does not have jur does
[1:13:47]
not have decision making uh um in power
[1:13:51]
in and of itself and neither does this
[1:13:54]
group have decision-making power around
[1:13:56]
uh private private land. This is not
[1:13:59]
what it's what it's about. But there are
[1:14:01]
some very um uh meaningful conversations
[1:14:05]
to be had and in a good way and those
[1:14:07]
need to be shared with the community and
[1:14:08]
that is a lot of uh of what this is in
[1:14:12]
in my mind and I've heard some fear in
[1:14:14]
the in the community um and around the
[1:14:16]
the province and country around around
[1:14:19]
this and I really uh my expectation is
[1:14:22]
this can be a vehicle to fill those um
[1:14:26]
uh to fill those gaps uh in
[1:14:28]
understanding that uh folks have uh
[1:14:31]
often filled themselves with with fear.
[1:14:34]
So, this is um a really important piece
[1:14:37]
uh of work and and I really think back
[1:14:40]
to the protocol agreement where we
[1:14:42]
committed to as a as a group in this
[1:14:45]
room and as a community to listen and
[1:14:47]
engage to follow the ways of the
[1:14:49]
Squamish, to genuinely care, to learn
[1:14:51]
the advice of the Squamish. And I love
[1:14:54]
this one, the people go through it
[1:14:55]
together. We are all going through this
[1:14:57]
together as a community. the residents
[1:14:59]
of Squamish and the and uh the Squamish
[1:15:03]
Okme. We're going through this together
[1:15:05]
and I think it's this is a together part
[1:15:08]
of that as well as protecting the rights
[1:15:09]
and title of the Squamish. So, I look
[1:15:11]
forward to um to um working uh with
[1:15:16]
Squamish Nation and my colleagues on
[1:15:17]
this and um thank you to everybody
[1:15:20]
involved to get us to this point. Um I
[1:15:24]
I um I do think that having a table to
[1:15:28]
sit at to discuss these matters with our
[1:15:31]
uh neighbors at this at the Squamish
[1:15:33]
Nation um is incredibly important and
[1:15:36]
likely at any point in time, but
[1:15:37]
particularly at this point in time. So
[1:15:38]
I'm thankful for the creation of this
[1:15:40]
initiative and look forward to doing the
[1:15:42]
work. I will other comments on this.
[1:15:45]
Councelor French.
[1:15:47]
>> Thanks, Mayor Herford. Um this is
[1:15:49]
» Thanks, Mayor Herford. Um this is
[1:15:49]
exciting tonight. Uh the task force has
[1:15:51]
an important historical mission ahead
[1:15:54]
and coming into this meeting tonight
[1:15:56]
I've had some mixed feedback on this
[1:15:58]
task force from many people and
[1:16:01]
surprisingly to me a little bit people
[1:16:04]
from all over the province. Um, many
[1:16:07]
eyes are on Squamish tonight with this
[1:16:10]
decision and uh and this recommendation
[1:16:13]
and this motion.
[1:16:15]
And what I've discovered over the last
[1:16:17]
couple of days in going through the
[1:16:19]
feedback that I've seen is uh those who
[1:16:22]
get what we're up to, they truly get it.
[1:16:25]
Those who don't, in my opinion, are
[1:16:27]
mainly driven by fear, feelings of
[1:16:29]
superiority, and a belief that there's
[1:16:31]
no historical wrongs to be reconciled. I
[1:16:34]
fully disagree with that. There are
[1:16:37]
wrongs to be corrected. And part of what
[1:16:40]
we're doing tonight is taking that on.
[1:16:42]
The path that we're continuing on with
[1:16:44]
the Squamish nation feels minimal. When
[1:16:46]
I think about my white European
[1:16:49]
ancestors who came here, claimed these
[1:16:52]
lands, and introduced the human
[1:16:54]
construct that we call private property.
[1:16:56]
And the newcomers to this place then
[1:16:58]
tried to assimilate the Skoish people
[1:17:00]
into European ways using what I think
[1:17:04]
are cruel tactics. And many people agree
[1:17:07]
with me on that. With no ability to undo
[1:17:09]
the historical hurt brought to the
[1:17:11]
people who lived here for thousands of
[1:17:13]
years before my ancestors arrived, I see
[1:17:16]
this task force as a small step along a
[1:17:19]
path that we're meant to be on until we
[1:17:22]
can all collectively agree that true
[1:17:24]
reconciliation has been achieved with
[1:17:27]
the Squamish people. Councelor Lewis
[1:17:30]
told me a few days ago that she's stoked
[1:17:33]
about the work of this task force and
[1:17:37]
she's keen to learn who's appointed to
[1:17:39]
the task force to represent the District
[1:17:41]
of Squamish. We've achieved that I I
[1:17:43]
think or we're about to confirm that
[1:17:46]
tonight. And I want to add that
[1:17:49]
transparency through this process is
[1:17:51]
important to me individually. And I've
[1:17:53]
heard from many in our community that
[1:17:55]
transparency with this process is vital
[1:17:57]
to them as well. I pledge to do all that
[1:18:01]
I can to promote public education
[1:18:03]
through this process and to keep the
[1:18:05]
work of the task force as transparent as
[1:18:08]
it possibly um can.
[1:18:11]
And when my time in this seat comes to
[1:18:14]
an end, I expect that I will point to
[1:18:16]
the work of this task force as a high
[1:18:19]
point in my political experience. I
[1:18:21]
support the recommended appointments and
[1:18:24]
um any one of the elected officials I
[1:18:26]
believe in this room tonight would
[1:18:28]
suitably represent the District of
[1:18:29]
Squamish on this task force. I'm happy
[1:18:32]
that we've selected the three that we
[1:18:33]
have. I support the motion in front of
[1:18:35]
us.
[1:18:36]
>> Thank you very much, Councelor French.
[1:18:38]
» Thank you very much, Councelor French.
[1:18:38]
Councelor Sto.
[1:18:40]
Yeah, thank you to the chair. Uh, happy
[1:18:42]
to support this motion this evening. Um,
[1:18:46]
and I think back to even when we just
[1:18:48]
signed theou in mid July, the context
[1:18:52]
was very different. Um, it was before
[1:18:54]
the Kawashan tribes decision court case
[1:18:56]
came forward. Um, and there was a real
[1:18:59]
pivot in the provincial, let alone the
[1:19:01]
national narrative around the path of
[1:19:04]
reconciliation.
[1:19:05]
Um, I think as I continue to reflect and
[1:19:08]
and hear the concerns uh that are
[1:19:13]
emerging and I think um some of them are
[1:19:18]
they're definitely they feel like valid
[1:19:20]
concerns for many folks because there's
[1:19:22]
a lot of uncertainty. I actually think
[1:19:24]
what this task force does and our
[1:19:26]
continued commitment to recon
[1:19:27]
reconciliation does is actually
[1:19:30]
open up the opportunity for dialogue,
[1:19:33]
for understanding, for education,
[1:19:35]
learning, and sharing. And that is what
[1:19:38]
our community does best across both
[1:19:41]
Squamish residents as well as the Scoish
[1:19:43]
people. Um, as Mayor Hurford reiterated,
[1:19:46]
I think one of the most appropriate
[1:19:48]
components of the principles of theou
[1:19:51]
that applies here is that the people go
[1:19:53]
through it together. We are all in this
[1:19:55]
together and we're trying to find our
[1:19:57]
way through it. I'd be lying if I said
[1:19:59]
we all knew the answers. But to
[1:20:01]
councelor French's point, I think our
[1:20:04]
council, our staff, our community, and
[1:20:07]
I've heard this from the Squamish
[1:20:08]
Nation, this task force is committed to
[1:20:11]
transparency, to engagement, to
[1:20:14]
research, and shared learning,
[1:20:16]
developing a framework that we can all
[1:20:18]
feel comfortable with to move us forward
[1:20:20]
on a stronger foundation. Um, because we
[1:20:24]
are all going to be here together no
[1:20:25]
matter what. we can either battle it out
[1:20:27]
in court or we can build strong working
[1:20:30]
relationships and move forward together,
[1:20:32]
show up represented to the province
[1:20:35]
together as opposed to apart. And I
[1:20:37]
think that's the piece that we're
[1:20:38]
looking for in this work. Um, and I'm
[1:20:41]
honored to take it on on behalf of
[1:20:42]
council of community and with community
[1:20:44]
and with council and our staff.
[1:20:48]
>> Thank you for that, Councelor S.
[1:20:49]
» Thank you for that, Councelor S.
[1:20:49]
Councelor Anderson.
[1:20:51]
>> Thank you, Mayor Herford. Uh it will be
[1:20:54]
» Thank you, Mayor Herford. Uh it will be
[1:20:54]
a great privilege and responsibility to
[1:20:56]
be serving on this task force. I am
[1:20:59]
looking forward to to fulfill the
[1:21:02]
principle that's outlined in the snap
[1:21:04]
presentation tonight. One of those
[1:21:05]
principles, listen and engage. And I'm
[1:21:07]
going to be learning how to pronounce
[1:21:09]
that in the Squamish language. But
[1:21:10]
that's one that leaps out for me. Uh we
[1:21:13]
need in response to community interest
[1:21:16]
as well. Of course, I see this I'm
[1:21:17]
looking forward to a process of
[1:21:19]
exploration as well as an educational
[1:21:21]
process. Um I councelor French has so
[1:21:26]
eloquently uh reminded us that or
[1:21:28]
pointed out that many eyes will be on
[1:21:31]
Squamish. So uh it will be important for
[1:21:35]
a learning process
[1:21:37]
important for other communities and
[1:21:39]
agencies well beyond Squamish. So this
[1:21:42]
is an added responsibility that uh I
[1:21:45]
look forward to facing. Thank you very
[1:21:47]
much.
[1:21:48]
>> Thank you, Councelor Penning.
[1:21:50]
» Thank you, Councelor Penning.
[1:21:50]
>> Yeah, thank you. Uh happy to support the
[1:21:52]
» Yeah, thank you. Uh happy to support the
[1:21:52]
motion. Um just reflecting on a few
[1:21:55]
things. I was never really a a huge fan
[1:21:58]
of the the Harper government, but in
[1:22:00]
2008 uh that government uh apologized
[1:22:03]
for the residential school system and
[1:22:06]
later a couple years later adopted uh
[1:22:08]
United Nation Declaration on the Rights
[1:22:10]
of Indigenous Peoples with with a small
[1:22:11]
caveat. But then in 2016, the Liberal
[1:22:14]
government, I guess the other side of
[1:22:15]
the aisle, you might say, uh fully
[1:22:17]
endorsed it. Um and so you know
[1:22:21]
colonialism and our history and how we
[1:22:23]
move forward is something that Canada
[1:22:26]
has been grappling with for a long time.
[1:22:28]
Um our democratically elected national
[1:22:31]
governments from both sides of the aisle
[1:22:33]
seem to support when you sort of read um
[1:22:36]
the text of of what they were doing and
[1:22:38]
why they were doing it. It is, I think,
[1:22:40]
as my colleague pointed out,
[1:22:42]
understanding, there's a more
[1:22:43]
constructive way than battling things
[1:22:45]
out in court. When we try and understand
[1:22:46]
and see each other's each others as
[1:22:48]
human beings and trying to understand
[1:22:50]
what we all need and how we can best
[1:22:52]
move forward together, that's kind of
[1:22:54]
the path to success. And that's what I
[1:22:55]
really see is sort of the common element
[1:22:57]
between these different governments and
[1:22:59]
these different documents that we're all
[1:23:01]
trying to work towards. And I I think
[1:23:02]
that applies here, too. I'm really proud
[1:23:05]
of our community every day on the
[1:23:07]
National Day for Truth and
[1:23:08]
Reconciliation. I see all the the orange
[1:23:10]
shirts uh uh walking down the street
[1:23:13]
together. And I think this is just sort
[1:23:15]
of that next step. There is a whole lot
[1:23:18]
of fear I think born out of a whole lot
[1:23:20]
of information uh misinformation and
[1:23:22]
political opportunism uh which is really
[1:23:25]
quite frustrating. But I think this is a
[1:23:27]
fantastic opportunity to have some
[1:23:29]
really great conversation that I think
[1:23:31]
uh should make things better for for
[1:23:33]
everyone at the end of the day. I think
[1:23:35]
this is a path of and it is the
[1:23:37]
underlying goal of how do we make this a
[1:23:39]
better place for everybody and I think
[1:23:40]
that's really what this is all about.
[1:23:42]
Um, and so I know this is something that
[1:23:45]
our our whole council has felt
[1:23:46]
passionate about and it's pretty hard to
[1:23:48]
to I think we all sort of would would
[1:23:51]
have liked to be in the room, but even
[1:23:52]
if we're not in the room, um, we'll be
[1:23:55]
finding other ways to support these
[1:23:57]
absolutely critical efforts. Um, with
[1:24:00]
that out of the way, just one small
[1:24:02]
thing. I I do see that the budget for
[1:24:04]
this is part of our broader memorandum
[1:24:07]
of understanding uh, budget. I I do sort
[1:24:10]
of wonder and maybe the task force needs
[1:24:11]
to ask for this, but if if there's a bit
[1:24:13]
of a a clear number that this task force
[1:24:15]
sort of had to sort of scope like how
[1:24:17]
far they can go in terms of having these
[1:24:19]
community conversations and so on. Just
[1:24:21]
a small thought as I read through the
[1:24:23]
report, but otherwise um very happy to
[1:24:25]
support this and uh thank you to the
[1:24:27]
colleagues that will be leading this.
[1:24:29]
>> Thank you, Councelor Hamilton.
[1:24:32]
» Thank you, Councelor Hamilton.
[1:24:32]
>> Yeah, thanks very much. I'm very happy
[1:24:34]
» Yeah, thanks very much. I'm very happy
[1:24:34]
to be supporting this motion. This is
[1:24:37]
extraordinarily important work. Um, and
[1:24:40]
I am extraordinarily grateful to my
[1:24:41]
colleagues who are willing to take it on
[1:24:43]
as members of the task force. Um, and
[1:24:46]
I'm really grateful to staff for helping
[1:24:49]
get the councils uh to this point. I
[1:24:53]
think staff play a vital and pivotal
[1:24:55]
role um in having our councils be uh
[1:24:59]
able to have uh constructive, careful
[1:25:03]
conversations, delicate and challenging
[1:25:05]
conversations with each other. Um and so
[1:25:07]
I think this task force is really a
[1:25:10]
culmination of a lot of staff work um to
[1:25:12]
be able to have challenging and
[1:25:13]
difficult conversations uh with each
[1:25:15]
other in uh open and um receptive ways.
[1:25:19]
So, thank you to my colleagues for
[1:25:20]
taking this on. Um, and I certainly
[1:25:24]
would look forward to hearing uh as the
[1:25:26]
task force progresses.
[1:25:29]
>> Thank you very much. Um, and thank you
[1:25:32]
» Thank you very much. Um, and thank you
[1:25:32]
uh council for all the thoughtful
[1:25:33]
comments. I I would love to riff on each
[1:25:35]
of of the the themes that have emerged
[1:25:38]
here. Um, and I do think that uh really
[1:25:41]
highlights the uh importance of this uh
[1:25:44]
of this work. So um we will this this is
[1:25:48]
uh clearly not the but uh not the last
[1:25:50]
touch point for the for this. So we'll
[1:25:52]
save uh my comments for the next time
[1:25:55]
these matters are before us. I'll call
[1:25:57]
the question. All in favor?
[1:25:59]
Motion carries unanimously. Thank you
[1:26:01]
very much. Thank you for all your work.
[1:26:06]
Um, so next, uh, we don't have any late
[1:26:09]
agenda items or, uh, but or
[1:26:12]
correspondence action requested, but we
[1:26:14]
do have items referred from the consent
[1:26:16]
agenda. So, we're on to 11
[1:26:19]
uh C, I think, is what both of those
[1:26:23]
are. So, Councelor Stoner, um, you
[1:26:26]
pulled 6D1. So, this is the five-year
[1:26:30]
the STR review. And just to orient
[1:26:33]
everyone, I know council knows this. Uh
[1:26:36]
for the most part, we don't um with
[1:26:39]
these pieces where we have a a memo from
[1:26:41]
staff uh come through. We don't have the
[1:26:44]
staff uh available to answer answer
[1:26:47]
questions. So if we have questions that
[1:26:49]
are more uh involved, we could refer
[1:26:51]
these to a future meeting to dig into
[1:26:53]
them further. Um but uh just with that
[1:26:56]
caveat, I will I will turn over to you
[1:26:58]
to get us started, councelor Soner.
[1:27:00]
Yeah, thank you uh through the chair. I
[1:27:03]
was going to refer this to a future
[1:27:04]
committee the whole for future for
[1:27:06]
further discussion and if that's
[1:27:08]
seconded I'll speak to it.
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>> I'll second it and do you want to go
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» I'll second it and do you want to go
[1:27:11]
ahead?
[1:27:12]
>> Yeah. Uh and thanks for supporting
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» Yeah. Uh and thanks for supporting
[1:27:14]
seconding it before I actually
[1:27:15]
articulated why I would like to discuss
[1:27:17]
it further. Um but there are some
[1:27:19]
components in the report uh that were
[1:27:23]
that flagged me that I think are just
[1:27:25]
worthy of some further council
[1:27:26]
deliberation. in particular, um it is
[1:27:28]
the suggestion that we continue to
[1:27:31]
encourage folks to reapply
[1:27:34]
for temporary use permits after their
[1:27:36]
six years. Um so under the legislation,
[1:27:40]
uh you technically can um reapply for a
[1:27:44]
TUP under a new application.
[1:27:47]
It's not generally our practice to do
[1:27:49]
so. Um and I it I think that that's
[1:27:51]
worthy of some council deliberation as
[1:27:53]
to whether that is that is practice that
[1:27:55]
we want to um address. And then we also
[1:27:57]
got some late correspondences today from
[1:27:59]
tourism Squamish uh that would also
[1:28:03]
amplify um I think a further dialogue
[1:28:05]
around our short-term rental regulation
[1:28:08]
policy.
[1:28:11]
>> Thank you. Um yeah, the thank you for
[1:28:14]
» Thank you. Um yeah, the thank you for
[1:28:14]
that. the the broader the TU issue here
[1:28:18]
is is broader I think than obviously
[1:28:20]
than just this use of t of t and I think
[1:28:23]
that with that in mind just whether this
[1:28:26]
is the um the preferred mechanism and I
[1:28:30]
get that that's likely a future action
[1:28:31]
thing that's not something that we have
[1:28:33]
in our work plans but I'd really like to
[1:28:35]
have a discussion around um around that
[1:28:38]
and I think this is such an impactful
[1:28:40]
piece for the community that it does
[1:28:42]
deserve more space than uh and I know
[1:28:45]
it's going to take more those sort of
[1:28:46]
future action items piece make make good
[1:28:49]
sense, but I do think we should spend a
[1:28:50]
little bit more um time with this and
[1:28:52]
address some of those or discuss some of
[1:28:54]
those issues. I'll go to you c did I see
[1:28:56]
a hand? No, you don't have to. You
[1:28:58]
can't. Councelor Penn is that your hand?
[1:29:01]
>> Yeah, I appreciate this coming back and
[1:29:02]
» Yeah, I appreciate this coming back and
[1:29:02]
just one thought maybe to uh for staff
[1:29:06]
to think about or for us to think about
[1:29:08]
when it comes back. I know there's been
[1:29:09]
some question or concern about uh has
[1:29:12]
this policy how many units has it
[1:29:14]
returned to the long-term rental market.
[1:29:17]
Um I think that is one aspect or in my
[1:29:20]
mind one aspect or one goal. The other
[1:29:22]
piece of it at least one other piece of
[1:29:24]
it for me was um you know if if a a home
[1:29:28]
can be a revenue generator um does that
[1:29:32]
then raise the price and sort of force
[1:29:34]
everyone to either do that or pay a very
[1:29:37]
high price for a home? And so it's it's
[1:29:39]
not just about returning uh units to the
[1:29:43]
long-term market, but what it does to
[1:29:45]
affordability. And we have many things
[1:29:47]
pushing affordability in different
[1:29:48]
directions. So not thinking that's, you
[1:29:51]
know, there's one magic solution here,
[1:29:53]
but um if there are any additional
[1:29:56]
thoughts or new information about uh the
[1:29:59]
push and pull there in terms of the
[1:30:01]
affordability of a home, um that may be
[1:30:04]
useful for our next discussion.
[1:30:08]
Thank you. Um just another piece of this
[1:30:11]
is the um the fees are meant uh I'm
[1:30:14]
curious to dig into the fees a little
[1:30:15]
bit. the um the fees revenue were uh
[1:30:20]
generally 156,800
[1:30:22]
and the annual um expenses to administer
[1:30:26]
the program were at 145,000 and it did
[1:30:29]
say that the third party monitoring
[1:30:30]
services dropped out of that and I just
[1:30:32]
I want to understand that better and if
[1:30:35]
inside of that cost recovery piece and
[1:30:37]
that's pretty close to the line with the
[1:30:39]
numbers that are there um just how we're
[1:30:41]
distributing those uh those uh fees
[1:30:44]
inside of that I I think are is worth
[1:30:46]
some. So, I'd like to dig into that
[1:30:48]
little piece a little bit as well, but
[1:30:50]
that is for a future meeting, which is
[1:30:52]
exactly what the resolution is. So, with
[1:30:54]
that, I'm going to call the question.
[1:30:55]
All in favor? Motion carries
[1:30:57]
unanimously. Thank you. And then back to
[1:30:59]
you, Councelor Stoner. Item 62.
[1:31:03]
>> Um, and I'm going to move receipt of
[1:31:05]
» Um, and I'm going to move receipt of
[1:31:05]
this memo uh because I just want to
[1:31:08]
speak to it and highlight it.
[1:31:10]
>> Is there a second for the motion?
[1:31:11]
» Is there a second for the motion?
[1:31:11]
Councelor French. Go ahead, Councelor S.
[1:31:14]
>> Uh, yeah. Thanks. I couldn't help myself
[1:31:16]
» Uh, yeah. Thanks. I couldn't help myself
[1:31:16]
but to pull this one because I think
[1:31:17]
that there's some really great numbers
[1:31:19]
in this memo which speaks to uh the uh
[1:31:22]
expansion of the evolve eBike share
[1:31:24]
program which we launched last summer.
[1:31:27]
So in just 166 days of its first year of
[1:31:30]
operation, there were across 54 bikes
[1:31:32]
were deployed from 18 locations that saw
[1:31:36]
1,318
[1:31:38]
unique riders for a total trip of total
[1:31:41]
number of trips of 3,96
[1:31:44]
over those 166 days. Um so BCAA who runs
[1:31:49]
the evolve program is looking to expand
[1:31:52]
uh to an additional basic almost
[1:31:54]
doubling their locations to 33 new
[1:31:56]
locations extending into Gabali
[1:31:58]
Highlands, Oceanfront, Brackendale and
[1:31:59]
Mammqu uh and providing a new
[1:32:01]
opportunity for folks not just ride on
[1:32:03]
ebikes but also on e- scooters. And I
[1:32:05]
think that this is a fantastic
[1:32:07]
opportunity for our community to have
[1:32:09]
different forms of transportation um and
[1:32:11]
micro transportation across our
[1:32:15]
very spread out community.
[1:32:19]
>> Other comments on this council penning?
[1:32:22]
» Other comments on this council penning?
[1:32:22]
>> Yeah, I was very happy to see this. I
[1:32:24]
» Yeah, I was very happy to see this. I
[1:32:24]
think it was in the first week or two
[1:32:26]
after launch uh which was not meant to
[1:32:29]
go past the mamquam. I saw uh folks at
[1:32:32]
the bag with a you know a pile of bikes
[1:32:34]
cuz they they'd ridden the bikes to the
[1:32:35]
bag and then they I guess rode them back
[1:32:37]
downtown or wherever. Uh so having this
[1:32:39]
uh available stops available in the
[1:32:41]
whole community I think is uh is a great
[1:32:44]
thing. Um uh sort of curious and ex
[1:32:48]
really curious to see how the the
[1:32:50]
scooters go. U I'm sort of wondering if
[1:32:53]
those stay more localized. That's just a
[1:32:55]
curiosity. Uh just a slight tangent. I I
[1:32:59]
saw I think an email that the um the on
[1:33:02]
demand transit service is starting to
[1:33:05]
and and so there's a lot of really uh
[1:33:07]
exciting things uh and I have people
[1:33:09]
asking for for more already for the on
[1:33:11]
demand. So it's great to see these
[1:33:14]
things uh moving forward.
[1:33:17]
>> Thank you. Any other comments on this?
[1:33:19]
» Thank you. Any other comments on this?
[1:33:19]
>> Um I'm going to say yes to those
[1:33:23]
» Um I'm going to say yes to those
[1:33:23]
comments that I've heard already around
[1:33:24]
the table. This really remarkable
[1:33:26]
success here. I think um Squamish um in
[1:33:32]
various initiatives hasn't quite been
[1:33:34]
the right size to support some other
[1:33:36]
initiatives around asomely like car
[1:33:39]
share as a you know we all know the the
[1:33:42]
challenges but to see something um
[1:33:45]
really be such a good fit for our
[1:33:47]
community is really is really great and
[1:33:50]
uh it shows when there is a there when
[1:33:52]
there is a fit that works for people
[1:33:54]
people will use it. those uh 1,318
[1:33:57]
unique riders uh is that's a lot of
[1:34:00]
people. That's impressive. And that is
[1:34:03]
with only uh 54 ebikes in 18 locations.
[1:34:07]
So, I'm really looking forward to uh
[1:34:10]
seeing and and feeling how the community
[1:34:13]
feels when there's um far more uh both
[1:34:17]
locations and and bikes available. And
[1:34:20]
one of the pieces that uh should jump
[1:34:22]
out to everyone that reads this report
[1:34:25]
uh not that there may be a line up for
[1:34:27]
people to read this report is under the
[1:34:29]
budget section. I'm going to read the
[1:34:30]
very first section. The partnership does
[1:34:33]
not cost the district money.
[1:34:38]
Remarkable. So happy to support. Of
[1:34:41]
course, we have uh folks uh do need to
[1:34:44]
uh on our team that do need to do some
[1:34:47]
what have been described as sort of
[1:34:48]
light touches around uh some some
[1:34:51]
planning uh for these, but essentially
[1:34:54]
the operations of these um do not cost
[1:34:56]
the district money and that's really
[1:34:58]
remarkable. Um,
[1:35:02]
oh, and a little side note that there
[1:35:04]
are uh the bikes and the scooters both
[1:35:07]
have uh GPS enabled and any that go
[1:35:10]
astray are found and returned to so uh
[1:35:14]
there has not been a a lost piece. Thank
[1:35:16]
you for that. Um I'll call the question.
[1:35:18]
All in favor? Motion carries. Thank you.
[1:35:21]
I think those were the two pieces
[1:35:24]
um left. So now uh we don't have any
[1:35:27]
business arising from the minutes. We
[1:35:29]
have no notice of motion. Open question
[1:35:32]
period. Clarification related to agenda
[1:35:34]
items. Is there anybody in the audience
[1:35:36]
this evening that has a question of
[1:35:37]
clarity for council? Um seeing none, uh
[1:35:42]
council or staff announcements. Go
[1:35:44]
ahead.
[1:35:46]
>> Uh thanks Mayor Herford. I wanted to
[1:35:47]
» Uh thanks Mayor Herford. I wanted to
[1:35:47]
share that on Wednesday, March 4th, I
[1:35:49]
attended a youth council event at House
[1:35:51]
Sound Secondary. Some of my colleagues
[1:35:53]
might want to pick up where I leave off
[1:35:55]
on this. Uh thank you to councelor
[1:35:57]
Stoner, Petting Gill, and Greenlaw for
[1:36:00]
uh the work that um you did to prepare
[1:36:02]
for the night and just generally your
[1:36:05]
work with youth youth council. Uh there
[1:36:07]
were uh no Squamish has some very bright
[1:36:11]
young people who are engaged and
[1:36:14]
actively working to make Squamish more
[1:36:16]
inclusive and uh offer a wider range of
[1:36:20]
things for all young people to do. I was
[1:36:22]
impressed. the future is definitely
[1:36:25]
bright.
[1:36:27]
>> Thank you for that. I would agree with
[1:36:28]
» Thank you for that. I would agree with
[1:36:28]
that assessment. Uh councelor Anderson,
[1:36:32]
>> thank you. Um the Railway Museum of BC
[1:36:36]
» thank you. Um the Railway Museum of BC
[1:36:36]
is hosting a seat to sky model train and
[1:36:39]
hobby show. It's an annual affair and
[1:36:42]
I've been to a few of them already.
[1:36:44]
It'll be taking place this weekend,
[1:36:46]
Saturday and Sunday, March 21st and
[1:36:48]
22nd. Fun for the whole family, says the
[1:36:50]
ad. And that is certainly true. uh model
[1:36:53]
train layouts of all scales, opportunity
[1:36:56]
to climb onto the Royal Hudson or engine
[1:36:58]
number two and other artifacts in the
[1:37:00]
railway park. People can ride the
[1:37:02]
museum's Bud Rail passenger car, be
[1:37:05]
going up and down the track. Railway is
[1:37:08]
topical these days and certainly in
[1:37:11]
Squamish. And railway modelers are not
[1:37:13]
only enthusiasts, rail fans, they are
[1:37:17]
experts with broad knowledge of the
[1:37:19]
history, technology and possibilities of
[1:37:21]
railway transportation. So anybody's
[1:37:24]
curiosity will be satisfied at this uh
[1:37:27]
train and hobby model train and hobby
[1:37:29]
show taking place this weekend. Thank
[1:37:31]
you.
[1:37:33]
>> Thank you for that. Um other go ahead
[1:37:36]
» Thank you for that. Um other go ahead
[1:37:36]
councelor Penniguel.
[1:37:38]
>> Yeah, two things. one uh just we have an
[1:37:41]
» Yeah, two things. one uh just we have an
[1:37:41]
endocrinologist now in town uh
[1:37:44]
regularly. So as a diabetic um I always
[1:37:47]
had to do my calls remotely or sometimes
[1:37:49]
they come to the drop-in center. I I
[1:37:51]
think I think I was the first patient on
[1:37:54]
their first day. So it is a
[1:37:57]
endocrinologist that uh is typically in
[1:37:59]
the city but they they have an office
[1:38:01]
here now. And so for anyone uh
[1:38:03]
struggling with diabetes and so on, um I
[1:38:06]
I think it's sort of I know there's a
[1:38:08]
lot of challenges that comes come with
[1:38:10]
growth uh but but seeing more services
[1:38:12]
like this I I think uh make the
[1:38:14]
community a lot better. So that was
[1:38:15]
great to see. Um and then I also just
[1:38:18]
wanted to had an opportunity with my
[1:38:20]
partner to go to the uh the fashion show
[1:38:22]
at House Sound. It was a fundraiser for
[1:38:26]
uh prom and uh a really great show. Um,
[1:38:30]
it it hurt a little bit to hear some of
[1:38:32]
the giggles and laughs at some of the
[1:38:33]
outfits that, you know, I think we wore
[1:38:35]
and we thought were cool, but it was uh
[1:38:39]
it was a really great event. So, thank
[1:38:41]
you to everyone who uh put that on.
[1:38:46]
» You have to submit some photos to
[1:38:48]
document this. Um, councelor Stoner.
[1:38:52]
>> Yeah, thanks to the chair. I'm going to
[1:38:53]
» Yeah, thanks to the chair. I'm going to
[1:38:53]
look forward a little bit uh later this
[1:38:55]
week. We will be welcoming welcoming a
[1:38:57]
delegation um of local government
[1:39:00]
officials from Zambia here in Squamish
[1:39:03]
as part of the partnership and municipal
[1:39:04]
innovation women in local leadership
[1:39:06]
program that we've been involved with
[1:39:08]
through the federation of Canadian
[1:39:09]
municies and global affairs Canada. I'm
[1:39:12]
actually not sure how many folks we'll
[1:39:13]
be welcoming from Zambia but there'll be
[1:39:15]
a group of folks uh who have traveled
[1:39:17]
this way. Um and the PMI will project is
[1:39:20]
really focused on achieving gender
[1:39:22]
parity in local councils and ensuring
[1:39:23]
inclusive approaches to service delivery
[1:39:26]
um uh in in all the work that we do. And
[1:39:30]
so we have been partnered with the local
[1:39:31]
government association of Zambia um and
[1:39:34]
we've had the opportunity for some
[1:39:35]
myself and some staff members to go down
[1:39:38]
um and work with the folks on the ground
[1:39:39]
in Zambia and this is a chance for them
[1:39:41]
to come here uh and share some of the
[1:39:43]
learnings in both directions. So, uh,
[1:39:46]
really excited to welcome them. Uh, and
[1:39:48]
then also another
[1:39:51]
component for youth council to flag and
[1:39:54]
mark on your calendars at the end of
[1:39:55]
April, Squamish Youth Council will be
[1:39:58]
putting on a one-day event called Rise,
[1:40:01]
uh, which the description says, "The
[1:40:03]
Rise Youth Summit is an Inerson event
[1:40:04]
where young people come together to
[1:40:06]
share ideas, learn new skills, and
[1:40:07]
ignite their passion for making a dis a
[1:40:09]
difference. expect awesome speakers,
[1:40:11]
interactive workshops, and tons of
[1:40:12]
opportunities to network with peers who
[1:40:15]
are just as driven as you are. And
[1:40:17]
there's currently a call out for
[1:40:18]
speakers, um either uh keynote speakers
[1:40:23]
or folks who might want to deliver some
[1:40:25]
workshops at this event. Um, and they
[1:40:28]
are looking for folks who have skills or
[1:40:30]
experiences to share that fit the areas
[1:40:32]
of health and wellness, real life skills
[1:40:34]
such as budgeting, cooking, mending,
[1:40:36]
navigating taxes, leases, and other
[1:40:38]
adultting basics as well as business and
[1:40:41]
career basics. So, if anybody has any
[1:40:43]
ideas on who would be a great speaker
[1:40:45]
for youth council uh in their youth
[1:40:48]
summit um who would like to share some
[1:40:50]
tips and tricks on how to be an
[1:40:52]
effective adult, I could sit in on a few
[1:40:55]
of those. Um but uh there's an
[1:40:57]
application form so um happy to share
[1:40:58]
that with council if you feel like you
[1:41:00]
would like to pass it on to someone.
[1:41:01]
Thanks.
[1:41:04]
>> Okay. Any other comments? Um
[1:41:08]
» Okay. Any other comments? Um
[1:41:08]
so um
[1:41:10]
also attended the uh the youth council
[1:41:13]
uh event uh and making the case for
[1:41:16]
local businesses to uh I would say cater
[1:41:20]
to uh youth and the benefits of doing
[1:41:24]
that including suggestions around hours
[1:41:25]
of operation and so on. It was great to
[1:41:27]
sort of see them really um uh um
[1:41:31]
articulating what they'd like to see and
[1:41:33]
not and and being brave to uh really ask
[1:41:37]
for it directly from the business
[1:41:39]
community. So, um it was great. Uh and
[1:41:42]
I'd like to thank both the the youth
[1:41:44]
council members for their continued work
[1:41:47]
and advocating for
[1:41:49]
um the things they'd like to see in the
[1:41:50]
community and to our business community
[1:41:52]
for responding. It was really
[1:41:54]
remarkable. We know that uh um just
[1:41:58]
running a business is
[1:42:01]
is very demanding and it's very
[1:42:02]
challenging times to be in business and
[1:42:05]
there was a big chunk of the business
[1:42:08]
community came out to um to be part of
[1:42:11]
the part of the event and um I think
[1:42:14]
that's a great response to the to the
[1:42:16]
youth in the community uh asking for
[1:42:18]
that. So, um, and we've already heard
[1:42:21]
some foreshadowing of what's coming
[1:42:23]
ahead, uh, with with youth council. So,
[1:42:25]
I look forward to, um, to seeing that.
[1:42:28]
Um, since we were last here, um, I, uh,
[1:42:32]
had opportunity to, um, we have a, I'm
[1:42:36]
going to use air quotes, a monthly
[1:42:38]
meeting with, uh, the mayors and chairs
[1:42:41]
in the Cedr
[1:42:44]
um, that seems to happen every couple
[1:42:47]
months with everyone's with everyone's
[1:42:48]
schedule. Um, so, uh, was this the week
[1:42:53]
week before last? Um
[1:42:56]
we got together in Whistler uh with um
[1:42:59]
we had um uh Mike Richmond, mayor of
[1:43:04]
Peton, Jack Crompson, Mayor Whistler,
[1:43:06]
myself, we had uh Patrick Wiler joined
[1:43:08]
us for the conversation and he brought
[1:43:10]
with him um uh Gregor Robertson uh who
[1:43:14]
is the um go through his portfolio here
[1:43:18]
is the Minister of Housing and
[1:43:19]
Infrastructure and Minister responsible
[1:43:21]
for Pacific Economic Development Canada.
[1:43:23]
So when I think about um the needs and
[1:43:27]
uh concerns of CD sky, he's a critical
[1:43:30]
uh player here and it was great to um
[1:43:32]
very thankful for um our MP Patrick
[1:43:35]
Wiler who does uh this is one of many
[1:43:38]
examples of him bringing folks together
[1:43:39]
and bringing the uh important um
[1:43:42]
ministers from his uh from his
[1:43:44]
government to community. And um and I
[1:43:49]
was I um
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Mr. Robinson was very uh engaged and
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very knowledgeable about the moving
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pieces down to like a surprising level
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of detail happening in the ca in the
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ceda sky. So um many of the concerns
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that we uh we have a lot of things that
[1:44:05]
are in our direct control uh in this
[1:44:07]
room but a lot of things the community
[1:44:10]
comes to us for require this um this
[1:44:14]
advocacy piece and um it's hard to sort
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of highlight those places and times it's
[1:44:20]
happening outside of direct letters and
[1:44:21]
so on but uh this is a great opportunity
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and um I think we uh also showed great
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unity in the in the seed of sky around
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what the concerns
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uh are so um thankful for that for that
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opportunity and um and for Minister
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Robertson's time and um so of course the
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the devil's in the detail. I didn't
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leave there with a giant check or you
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know all the any of those matters
[1:44:47]
resolved but um we are on the uh and
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will continue to be on the uh federal
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radar. Um I um last week I spent um a
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few days with my elected official
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colleagues at the at the local
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government leadership academy uh which
[1:45:06]
is um an important initiative supported
[1:45:09]
by the province to really make us be
[1:45:12]
effective in these roles or uh aspires
[1:45:15]
to at any rate. And it was great to I
[1:45:18]
always enjoy spending time with my
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colleagues from around the the province.
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There was a lot of given where we are in
[1:45:23]
the term, there was a lot of reflection
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and I I was really struck by how open
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everyone was to share their uh you know
[1:45:31]
the strikes and gutters of this of this
[1:45:34]
work um and um and lessons learned and
[1:45:38]
um and uh and so on. So um excellent
[1:45:43]
opportunity and just um again I'd like
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to really thank everyone that was
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involved. There was also um I think a
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highlight for us maybe locally would be
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there was a presentation but from the
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SLRD. Uh so Chair Ford was there uh RCAO
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uh was there um uh and um and the there
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was also um one of the staff members
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working on the um the guide book to
[1:46:10]
reconciliation was uh was the the topic
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and it was great to share that with
[1:46:14]
folks from around the the province. Um
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and um yeah, it was it was quite surreal
[1:46:21]
to sort of be sitting in in the in the
[1:46:23]
audience as someone that sits at the
[1:46:25]
table that that um was there and just
[1:46:27]
listening to the discussion and the
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context is just so varied for this work
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around around the province. We've had
[1:46:33]
some discussion around on this topic
[1:46:35]
already in this in this room today and
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it's it's different uh everywhere you
[1:46:40]
go. So I thought um yeah that was a
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great a great session and um it was good
[1:46:44]
to see that work sort of highlighted in
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that way. Um, I could go on, but I am
[1:46:50]
very excited about um uh the Zambia
[1:46:53]
delegation uh this week and um look
[1:46:56]
forward to spending some time uh some
[1:46:58]
time with them and uh I enjoy showing
[1:47:01]
off uh our community and the more I get
[1:47:03]
in the more time I spend in this role uh
[1:47:07]
I enjoy showing uh folks from around the
[1:47:10]
world in uh local government um not just
[1:47:15]
the beautiful bits that you show your
[1:47:16]
friend when you're when they come to
[1:47:17]
your community, you're like, "Oh, we
[1:47:19]
also have this and this." Like this is
[1:47:20]
the totality of it and also our where
[1:47:23]
our challenges are. So, look forward to
[1:47:25]
having those honest conversations um
[1:47:27]
going forward. Um and that's I see no
[1:47:31]
other hands for this piece. So, um we
[1:47:34]
don't have a motion to close. We don't
[1:47:36]
have any in camera announcements. I'll
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be looking for Yes. Councelor Stoner,
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can I help you?
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>> I would move uh that the meeting be
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» I would move uh that the meeting be
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terminated. Uh, councelor French, I
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believe you're seconding that. Uh, I
[1:47:47]
think I always feel funny calling the
[1:47:50]
question even on this one. I think we'd
[1:47:51]
all like to terminate the meeting. So,
[1:47:52]
all in favor, motion carries. Now,
[1:47:56]
council, if you were keeping score,
[1:47:57]
we're actually not done our work today.
[1:47:59]
We did not make it through the totality
[1:48:01]
of our closed meeting that we had uh
[1:48:04]
scheduled to conclude prior to this
[1:48:05]
meeting. So, we'll take a we'll
[1:48:08]
reconvene that meeting in um 15 minutes.
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uh will reconvene our special close
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meeting. So stretch your legs, but
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you're not done yet.