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All right, good morning everyone. I now
call this regular meeting of the city
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council village of the hills to order.
Today is September 8th and the time is
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9:04 a.m. Thank you all for being here
and joining us.
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Please rise and join me in honoring our
flag pledge of allegiance.
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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic for it stands one nation under
God indivisible with liberty and justice
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for all.
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» Okay. Public comment. Members of the
public may address the city council
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during the public comment per items
which may or may not be on the agenda.
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Speakers must address all comments and
questions to the presiding officer and
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must limit their comments to three
minutes. Inquiries from speakers about
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matters not list on the agenda will
either be directed to staff or placed on
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future agenda for council consideration.
Any public comment from you gentlemen
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right now? Okay. All right. That is
concludes the public comment period.
[1:10]
Moving on to
public hearing.
[1:18]
I will now open the public hearing on
the adoption of the proposed fiscal year
[1:23]
2026 2027 city budget. The time is 9:05
a.m. Is there anyone here who would like
[1:30]
to provide public comment?
[1:35]
Okay. Hearing none,
can we now close a public hearing? It is
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now 9:05
a.m.
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Consent agenda. All it all matters
listed under this item are considered to
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be routine and will be enacted by one
motion. There will not be a separate
[1:51]
discussion of these items. If discussion
is desired by any council member on any
[1:57]
item, that item will be removed from the
consent agenda and will be considered
[2:02]
separately. Item A, approve the minutes
of August 11th, 2026 regular city
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council meeting. Item B, approve the
minutes of August 24, 2026 city council
[2:13]
budget workshop.
[clears throat] Anybody have anything
[2:17]
they would like to discuss on the
minutes?
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» I second that motion.
>> All in favor?
[2:31]
» I. All oppose. None. Motion carries.
Reports. Law enforcement report. How are
[2:38]
you? Good, good, good.
>> Excellent.
[2:40]
» All right, it looks like we had two 911
hang-ups, two suspicious vehicles, uh,
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three disturbance,
uh, one civil situation,
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uh, eight mental health calls, 12 assist
complainants, two suspicious vehicles.
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We have 42 directed patrols, four false
alarm and burglaries and what collusion,
[3:03]
one assault with injury, four meetings,
looks like three assist EMS, and then I
[3:10]
did 20 school zone enforcements with uh
42 community contacts,
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105 traffic stops with uh 37 citations
and 75 warnings.
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» Thank you. For those, just out of
curiosity, for those school zone
[3:27]
enforcements, are those inside the gate
or right outside the gate like right
[3:30]
here?
>> I do them outside the gate. I found out
[3:32]
that Serene Hills uh had recently lost
their crossing guard.
[3:37]
» Okay.
>> And so,
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» yeah,
>> I'm there. I'm out. So, people stop for
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police usually. So,
>> uh, I decided to because I guess they
[3:46]
the kids have yellow and green cards and
so they green ones they can they're
[3:52]
allowed to go out without a teacher or
their parents or something like that.
[3:55]
So, stay for about 15 minutes. Okay. Get
them all crossing and then I go back in
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there and then just make sure
everybody's stopping at the stop sign.
[4:02]
» All right.
Thank you.
[4:08]
» Okay. Parks and recreation liaison.
>> Yep. [clears throat] So parks has been
[4:13]
all hands on deck uh planning hill city
limits. We have the contract from autumn
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for the event planning and executing. So
we're reviewing and scrutinizing that.
[4:22]
Um other than that we are very excited
about two potential new commissioners
[4:27]
that we'll discuss today. And then we
did officially move the regular um
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meeting to the uh third Monday of every
month
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just to give me a little more time as we
move.
[4:42]
I'm sorry. Can you repeat that last
speaker?
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» We moved our regular meeting to the
third Monday.
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» Oh.
>> Otherwise, it was the same Monday as the
[4:51]
city council meeting.
>> Wonder
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been walking around the park.
>> Good.
[5:01]
I got to move the flag back up.
>> Go down the dollar.
[5:09]
Is that your responsibility?
>> Have you been doing that?
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» I think so. [laughter]
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» I wonder if there's a scout or someone
in the neighborhood who would volunteer
[5:22]
their time to be on the watch.
>> Earl Crane. I can reach out to Earl
[5:28]
Crane.
>> Just Yeah. Someone who would want to be
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like regularly on the watch to support
this be in addition to or maybe to
[5:35]
support my support. No, girl scouts or
boy scouts have scouts. [clears throat]
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» Last round.
>> Unless you enjoy the flag.
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» It's not that bad.
>> I think [laughter]
[5:50]
you big shout out to Marty because when
he did it, he saluted the flag and
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everything. So, he
>> Marty, you're the man for that.
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» This is your job.
>> Thank you.
[6:07]
the dog [laughter] park
today
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» and not today like whenever I'm there.
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» Okay. EOA liaison.
>> So I attended the meeting but the first
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20 minutes it was um
the AV was not turned on. So if there's
[6:30]
anything I miss you can help fill in the
blanks. I appreciate being on site. Uh
[6:33]
Russell Borgman's vacancy has been
filled from a board position. The board
[6:37]
appointed Christutoo. Um
Russell also has a treasurer role that
[6:43]
was been assigned reassigned to Rob
Littleorth to take that that role. Uh
[6:48]
they have a new on-site property manager
in place. They hired and on board.
[6:53]
Quick pass readers have been installed
that should address the toll tag issues.
[6:56]
I guess with the new Houston toll tags,
they weren't reading the tags
[7:00]
appropriately. So those all been
installed.
[7:03]
um addressing RFID costs for club
employees. It sounds like there was a
[7:07]
change made
[7:11]
uh discussion with the clubs are
addressing that. And then there's been
[7:15]
ongoing phone system challenges at
Spectrum on site to address those. It
[7:19]
sounds like it's been persistent for the
past several weeks.
[7:23]
I believe that's all you if there was
anything for the first 20 minutes.
[7:27]
» No. Uh basically they talked about
woman's crossing and it was Jim Gyos
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that uh
responded to that and they're still
[7:36]
reviewing it at this time.
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» I'll add that as a discussion when we
get to our agenda.
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That's all for
>> all right leaison. Andrew, would you
[7:48]
mind covering the
>> I don't mind. Um basically what they uh
[7:53]
they're doing safety meetings uh every
month to ensure that
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everything is you know separate like
chemical spills stuff like that. Um our
[8:05]
generator,
our SCADA system right now. They're
[8:09]
reviewing the SCA system because there's
been an attack throughout the country in
[8:14]
reference to SCADA system. So they're
doing the security on that. Um they
[8:22]
are putting in the new generator
September 9th to where the city and all
[8:28]
the offices will be closed because they
there will be no electricity to this uh
[8:34]
complex. Uh their finances are good.
They're working on their tax rate and
[8:39]
they're working on their budget and they
should be posted. Uh there's no election
[8:45]
for the mud. Uh
right now it's Jim
[8:51]
Fletcher Delcoski and Tom Styles that
are going to be taking the roles on the
[8:57]
board. Other than that, it's good.
>> So Mike So uh Mike Money will not be
[9:06]
standing for election,
>> right? He did apply but he he withdrew.
[9:12]
» Okay.
[9:17]
All right, welcome commission liaison.
>> So, um, welcome commission is fully
[9:24]
caught up on call logs like we're really
kind of hitting our stride. U, we have
[9:31]
potentially two sponsors for a total of
6,000 where we can close on before Hill
[9:36]
City limits. Um, and then I did kind of
at the last minute run the brochure
[9:42]
through um, Claw Design and came out
with a design that we all liked, maybe a
[9:47]
little bit more than the last one. So,
um, it was missing some context. So, now
[9:51]
we're kind of cross referencing the two,
seeing if we can make, you know, the
[9:55]
best of both, but
the brochure is now delayed a little bit
[10:00]
for good reason.
[10:04]
Thank you.
and at city administrator report
[10:10]
» on uh we're gonna have the ebike event
that will be in October. We're looking
[10:16]
October 2nd. Uh we have Lake Travis fire
and rescue going to be there. The
[10:22]
sheriff's department has a lot of good
documentation in reference to that. uh
[10:28]
Travis County Conal's office and so is
city of Lakeway motorcade will all be
[10:33]
attending for educating the parents and
the children on what is allowed and
[10:40]
what's not allowed and the consequences
of what might happen.
[10:45]
I have noticed uh I don't know if others
have noticed a distinct drop in the
[10:50]
electric dirt bike and an increase in
ebikes as opposed to you know
[10:55]
unauthorized off-road vehicles. So
>> yes, there it's uh like Travis Fire and
[11:02]
Rescue has been amazing. They have a lot
of documentation in reference to the
[11:05]
batteries that they've been starting on
fire and what to do. Um there's a lot of
[11:11]
safety issues, concerns that are going
to be addressed.
[11:17]
» Well, they also have like the stickers
that are like the certified like this is
[11:22]
an approved electric bike.
>> They have they have the pamphlet. Uh the
[11:29]
best one that I've seen so far is is the
sheriff's department. They have a
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picture of it and what's not allowed,
what is allowed, and where to find the
[11:39]
information on the bike.
>> Okay. But then and this the sticker that
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they give you for like this one is
Have you seen those?
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» I haven't seen those.
Have you seen them?
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» Well, I know the bikes come with usually
like a class one, two sticker attached.
[11:57]
So, those aren't given to you.
>> That's a good question. I can ask that.
[12:04]
It sounds a good idea.
>> It's like a service dog thing that you
[12:07]
can buy from Amazon.
>> I thought I' seen
[12:12]
» it would be a good idea for the event if
there was like a tagging process.
[12:15]
» Yeah, this one passes your green.
>> Yeah.
[12:24]
» Angie, um do you have any update on is
National Night Out also going to be
[12:28]
happening?
>> Yes, National Night Out is October 6. We
[12:31]
have the uh parks and wreck that are
going to be uh representing that event.
[12:36]
We have the helicopter also scheduled.
We have included Lake Travis ISD as
[12:42]
well. Uh [clears throat] so we have Lake
Travis fire and rescue. We have uh the
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constables. We have Lake Travis ISD, the
helicopter, and we're trying to get the
[12:53]
ambulance here too.
>> I see it.
[12:58]
in reference to uh any other questions
in reference to you.
[13:04]
» Oh, go ahead. [clears throat]
>> The yard signs were down
[13:07]
» from the horizontal park.
>> Yeah. Uh I'm trying to find out who who
[13:11]
took them down.
>> But you took what down?
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» Those yard signs at the jumps in the
park.
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» Keep out grass.
>> Are they down or are they
[13:22]
» No, they're gone.
>> We've got the camera. So,
[13:27]
» whoever stole our signs, please return
them. [laughter]
[13:33]
» I thought we took them down.
>> No, I didn't take them down.
[13:36]
» No park. [laughter]
[13:41]
» On uh any other questions
on CERT, we have a training uh that's
[13:49]
coming up. If anybody wants to get
involved with CERT training, uh it's
[13:53]
different committees that do different
trainings. Uh the next is scheduled the
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25th through the 27th and September 25th
is from 5:30 to 900 p.m. And September
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26 is 8:30 a.m. until 6:00 p.m. And
September 27th is 9:30 to 6:00 p.m. It's
[14:15]
Friday, Saturday, Sunday. they will uh
have food ready for you, drinks and
[14:22]
everything there. So, uh figured out um
Peros the pizza place
[14:31]
I actually sponsored the food for this
event. So, they do sponsor food.
[14:36]
» Nice.
>> How many people from the city
[14:39]
» participate?
>> Uh we have three right now. Uh that's
[14:43]
why uh we're encouraging
anybody any resident that wants to uh
[14:49]
participate to reach out to me. I'll
give them all the information that needs
[14:54]
to be done. Uh it's a great uh
>> certification
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» Mark.
>> No, who's doing it? City, Lakeland, and
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village of the
>> three sponsors.
[15:06]
» Uh Mark, uh I have to look at the point
share to see which ones are from City of
[15:13]
Lakeland and which ones are from Village
of the Hill.
[15:16]
» They're all messed together, so I have
to go look.
[15:21]
But this is a great opportunity to if
you want to help the community, I would
[15:26]
suggest doing the training.
>> Excellent.
[15:30]
» But they're having it throughout the
year. We're also included with Travis
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County CERT. So we're we're Travis
County Search and City of Lake Village
[15:39]
of the Hill Search. So we're all
intertwined.
[15:45]
[clears throat]
>> All right. Mayor's report.
[15:48]
Uh, so actually Greg just joined us, but
we had a very productive meeting with
[15:53]
Earl from the MUD. So just as an update,
so we will be moving the city village
[15:59]
office into this building and co
cohabitate in some capacity with the
[16:04]
POA. The MUD has kindly asked that we
pay the minimous amount for rent, but
[16:10]
they are also providing us with
electricity, cable, building maintenance
[16:16]
they will cover as well. Also, what
they've asked effectively is for us to
[16:20]
clean and then provide them access when
needed and we'll determine what we're
[16:24]
going to do with this conference room.
And then separately, we're going to
[16:29]
discuss an item
[16:35]
G uh city council. I want to thank
Cartha Noeli and Britney Mikausski for
[16:44]
stepping up to uh run for city council
elections.
[16:48]
Uh city council and mayor se were
unopposed. So we will be welcoming
[16:53]
Britney and Caric as well as myself for
another term. So
[16:59]
» thank you.
>> Congratulations.
[17:02]
» And then moving on to business items.
Item A, discuss and take possible action
[17:08]
to approve an ordinance 2026-005,
an ordinance of the village of the hills
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adopting a budget for the ensuing fiscal
year beginning October 1st and ending
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September 30th, 2027 in accordance with
the Texas local government code for
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general law municipalities appropriating
the various amounts therefore providing
[17:28]
a severability cost providing for the
publication and an effective date.
[17:37]
I motion to adopt ordinance 2026-5.
[17:45]
» I second that motion.
[17:49]
Any questions or discussion?
[17:57]
» Is item H part of this? Item H is
that is 2025 2026 budget amendment.
[18:22]
real quick.
[18:56]
I don't have anything to discuss or have
since the budget workshop.
[19:00]
» I would just add I appreciate Gary's
effort and um taking on the budget this
[19:06]
year. did a great job as well as
managing solid communicator and the oper
[19:11]
regular operations of the city. So,
thank you.
[19:14]
» Thank you as well, Sarah. All of y'all
have been a big part of this. So,
[19:21]
» it looks great to me.
Make sure I have any last questions
[19:26]
here.
[19:40]
Okay. For the community's reference,
fiscal year 2026-20 and 2027 general
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fund is1,251,853.
[19:50]
solid waste fund is $242,127.112
[19:55]
and that capital projects fund we've
allocated $140,000
[20:00]
$100,000 of that is still allocated for
the light intersection or the
[20:05]
intersection light outside of Wilman's
crossing
[20:09]
which we'll actually have a discussion
on today because the POA has some
[20:13]
attendees in attendance we'll have a
discussion item on uh intersection works
[20:18]
debt service fund 100cc you see
$8,18368.
[20:23]
We've allocated 0 for the hotel
occupancy fund.
[20:33]
And I do want to also echo Sarah's
comments and thank everyone and commend
[20:37]
the council for the work that has gone
into this budget as well as the past
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council's work to keep a balanced
budget. I'm proud that year after year
[20:44]
we continue the commitment to sound
fiscal stewardship
[20:48]
and we have never under this council's
tenure and the prior ones uh never
[20:53]
budgeted a deficit and only set aside a
modest surplus as a margin of safety. We
[20:57]
kept our property taxes low while
ensuring the community needs and
[21:01]
priorities are fully considered. Every
dollar has been allocated with care,
[21:05]
discussed publicly in our budget
workshops, and each expenditure is
[21:08]
thoroughly reviewed to ensure it serves
a clear purpose and delivers value to
[21:12]
our residents. So, thank you.
So, all in favor?
[21:18]
» I. All oppose? None. Motion carries.
Moving on to
[21:25]
item B. Discuss and take possible action
to adopt a proposed tax rate.
[21:32]
Our proposed tax rate for this year
specifically is
[21:42]
090181
per yeah 09181
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last year was 092 2024 was 0936.
The trends over the last few years under
[21:57]
the p since 2023 has been a decline in
the tax rate.
[22:06]
Does anybody have any questions on that
tax rate that's proposed?
[22:19]
» Um I would like to approve it because
tax rate of 0.09 09181
[22:26]
for $100 of taxable value for the 26 tax
year and to schedule a public hearing on
[22:30]
the proposed tax rate for September
[22:37]
» 22nd. Any second
[22:43]
» at 9:00 a.m.
[22:49]
» I I second that motion.
>> All in favor?
[22:55]
» I. All oppose? None. Motion carries.
>> I'm sorry, Mayor. Can you go back and um
[23:01]
» do a record vote on We need a record
vote on the tax rate and we need a
[23:05]
record vote on the adoption of the
budget. um adoption.
[23:14]
» So on item A, we need a record vote.
>> Yeah, you can just recall it and just do
[23:18]
a record motion on it.
>> Okay.
[23:21]
» A record vote.
>> Let's reread it. So item A was
[23:24]
discussion of pos possible action to
approve the ordinance 2026-0005
[23:29]
an ordinance the village of the hills
Texas adopting a budget for the ensuing
[23:32]
fiscal year beginning October 1st 2026
and ending September 30th 2027 in
[23:39]
accordance with the Texas local
government code for general law
[23:42]
municipalities appropriate aiding the
various amounts thereof providing a
[23:46]
severability clause and providing for
publication and an effective date.
[23:52]
Council member Harold, how do you vote?
[23:57]
» Council member Kate,
>> yes.
[24:01]
» Council member Harold.
>> Council member Mosski.
[24:06]
» They are proud. Yay.
[24:10]
There. Council member Wolf is excused
absence for the record. So motion
[24:17]
carries.
discussion and possible action to adopt
[24:21]
a proposed tax rate as stated by council
member Harrell. Council member Carol,
[24:28]
how do you vote?
>> Yay.
[24:30]
» Council member Kate, how do you vote?
>> Yeah.
[24:32]
» Council member Harelson, how do you
vote?
[24:35]
» Council member Mosski, how do you vote?
>> Mayor Proud, how do you vote? Yay. All
[24:41]
in favor? Motion carries.
>> Thank you.
[24:46]
» [applause]
>> Approve item C. Approve the finance
[24:49]
treasures report for August 2026.
I'm going to suggest that we carry that
[24:55]
over to the next council meeting
[25:01]
since Gary is not in attendance.
Item B, discuss, consider, and take
[25:06]
appropriate action regarding the
volunteer application
[25:11]
for the parks and recreation commission.
Tiana Belman,
[25:16]
would you like to
>> uh Yeah, I don't see her application in
[25:19]
the attachment. Um
>> yeah, when I pulled it up, it was blank.
[25:23]
I don't know what happened to it.
>> Okay. I I would probably recommend we
[25:30]
punt that until council can approve it.
>> It was approved by parks and rack.
[25:35]
» Yeah.
Um,
[25:40]
I very much endorse her, but I think you
guys should take a look at her
[25:44]
application before we vote. Great. Parks
also unanimously approved her.
[25:50]
» Okay, moving on to item D. Item E,
discuss, consider, and take any
[25:55]
appropriate action regarding the
volunteer application of the parks and
[25:58]
recreation commission for Cassana
Gibson.
[26:02]
» Um, yep. So, I mean, those who know her
know that she's a huge supporter and
[26:06]
friend of the park. Her um son often um
is the DJ to some of our events. Uh so,
[26:14]
she would be an incredible addition and
parks has um accepted her unanimously.
[26:27]
» Thank you for that question.
>> Any questions or discussion?
[26:34]
All in favor? I. All oppose. None.
Motion carries.
[26:39]
Okay. Discuss and take possible action
concerning funding concern a funding
[26:43]
agreement for public safety improvement
at the city's Lman's crossing entrance.
[26:48]
We do have I think three
people representing in various
[26:52]
capacities of POA uh for our discussion.
What I wanted to do was to
[26:59]
one review the spy glass partners
uh services agreement that we've
[27:05]
discussed
splitting in some capacity with the POA
[27:10]
to fund that as well as just other
general thoughts around the intersection
[27:15]
plans and how we can all work together.
I didn't know if Greg or Joel would like
[27:20]
to one if you guys have any perspective
or anything you would like to share on
[27:23]
the spy glassass agreement how you are
approaching it.
[27:27]
» Yeah.
>> And then how we what are kind of next
[27:29]
steps for us all to collaborate on the
uh intersection.
[27:32]
» Appreciate it. Um so I think it probably
is because we did some significant
[27:38]
diligence which Joel did most of so it
might we all understand [snorts] the
[27:43]
question that we're trying to solve
that's been around for a decade. Um but
[27:47]
history has caught up with us and I
think we're actually at some collection
[27:50]
points but so um Joel and Tap in needed
to
[27:56]
why don't you just talk about the the
process that we've undertaken to get to
[28:00]
this meeting including the committee
input the the identification and vetting
[28:08]
of potential project managers why we
think we needed a project manager how we
[28:13]
came to recommend spy
Thank you. Uh the uh POA last year
[28:20]
decided to form uh to start looking into
the issues relating to our intersection
[28:28]
and what's coming up. Part of that
effort was to hire traffic and close to
[28:35]
that. We ended up hiring a company
called half HF
[28:40]
and commissioned them to do a study of
the intersection
[28:44]
make certain recommendations.
When the POA uh received [clears throat]
[28:49]
POA board received that study from half
the board did not take action on it but
[28:56]
then formed what we call the Lman's
intersection committee uh headed by
[29:00]
Jimos
to my right uh to begin to engage with
[29:06]
that and to make recommendations
surrounding
[29:10]
the intersection. And those came out of
they began to study that they came up
[29:16]
with the draft plan that's on the
village website. That's that concept
[29:20]
plan of the intersection formed by that
committee. I will say it was a very good
[29:25]
committee. There were engineers on
there. Jim's a civil engineer. There
[29:29]
were lawyers on there. It was just a
good cross-section of people in our
[29:34]
community that spoke well and
knowledgeably about issues related to
[29:39]
that and they took their job very
seriously and actually did a really good
[29:43]
job. Part of that uh is the board then
received their recommendation and
[29:49]
recognized that in order to move this
forward we needed a project manager. So
[29:55]
CC CMC and I pulled together names for
uh uh project management. I called
[30:03]
someone I knew called Square One. The
person I know at Square One was project
[30:10]
management. Uh individual used to be a
project manager at Chazco, a big fairly
[30:15]
large uh commercial construction company
in town. Uh they declined. Uh said it
[30:21]
was a small project. just didn't get
their attention. Uh I asked them for uh
[30:27]
to help me understand what the cost
surrounding this may be and they said
[30:32]
around $80,000 a year to manage
something like that if they were
[30:37]
guessing and engaged with another
company and I apologize I did not bring
[30:42]
my file and I cannot remember their name
but they are also a project management
[30:47]
company of a commercial grade. uh sent
them all the same documentation I sent
[30:52]
to Square One. I had a conference call
with them. Uh they estimated their cost
[30:59]
to be $14,000 a month. They recognized
that with the various entities involved
[31:06]
like the POA village, the city of
Lakeway potentially there was going to
[31:10]
be lots of meetings and coordination and
they said yeah it's going to be
[31:14]
expensive. uh also engaged with spy
glass which Jim recommended. I asked Jim
[31:20]
if he had any contacts in that field.
Jim recommended SM Spy Glass who also
[31:26]
does project management's currently
doing one uh bringing the subdivision
[31:31]
online so that these people all
understand the project. That's the net
[31:35]
net of the proposal that you have in
front of you.
[31:41]
Um, so we had a in-person sort of final
selection meeting just by last week. Had
[31:48]
Tom Carol and Angie attend that meeting
so they could get a sense of uh, Will
[31:54]
Romo, the the principal who would be
running the project, ask questions, and
[31:58]
hopefully develop enough context to
bring back that context for the
[32:01]
council's uh, consideration. So I think
that's sort of where it was left off. I
[32:06]
know that your deliberations about how
you manage your involvement are still
[32:11]
part of what we're trying to help solve
today. Um just we are coming to this
[32:17]
with a with a complete blank slate.
We're not the only thing we want to be
[32:21]
prescriptive about is a desire to solve
the problem. So whatever the city needs
[32:28]
because perhaps have more guard rails to
to navigate is fine with the POA. Uh we
[32:34]
do recommend spy glass. We think the
diligence there was was appropriate. He
[32:38]
knows the players here. He has the
relationships. Um he's willing to take
[32:42]
on sort of the the managed chaos of a of
a multistakeholder
[32:47]
um project. And I'll just small tangent
though, should we proceed to partner, we
[32:53]
need to come up with a very compact
administration function to report in and
[32:57]
manage spy glass because he he was very
adamant and I for reasons that are
[33:02]
common sensible to me that he he
literally only wanted one or two points
[33:05]
of contact otherwise he wouldn't be able
to. So we would need to build some way
[33:09]
to get all the voices heard and all the
consensus built before it touches a
[33:13]
single node of communication back and
forth to um to spy glass. So that would
[33:18]
be important in any subsequent
construction if we of the organization
[33:21]
if we agree to partner. Um so
our initial just sort of initial and
[33:28]
inertial assumption was you know we got
this guy he brought the contract to us.
[33:33]
It's got our it's got our you know name
on the signature line. It's $10,000 a
[33:37]
month. It's monthtomonth. The assumption
there is it's the project requirements
[33:41]
are going to be lumpy. So on some some
months he's going to be over earning
[33:44]
that 10. On some months he's going to be
under earning.
[33:47]
It it it makes more common sense to me
because that's how the real world works
[33:50]
than have him, you know, quote a nominal
hourly rate which can sometimes make
[33:55]
things pretty lumpy and also creates the
temptation that well why did you take X
[34:00]
time on my project and I my experience
managing these projects at least at this
[34:06]
phase on retainer level makes sense. So
EK also is the cost-effective
[34:11]
alternative. So um I guess I would ask
the council to maybe articulate back
[34:19]
what what structure imperatives do we
need to accommodate to to get your
[34:24]
financial sponsorship at least for the
spy glassass phase and the spy glassass
[34:30]
phase is to really tell us what are the
next phases, what are the time frames,
[34:34]
who are the constituents, where is this?
He knows how to go down to to Lakeway
[34:38]
and pull the papers and talk to the
developer and know exactly where we are
[34:42]
and exactly what we need to do. And we
look at this as there there's certainly
[34:48]
two distinct pieces of real estate, if
you will, that either side has better
[34:53]
standing to to operate within. What
happens, you know, in Lakeway, you know,
[34:57]
we very much believe in that in that
intersection. I very much believe that
[35:01]
that the city has better standing to
engage with Lakeway to have a uh a
[35:07]
public benefit argument to be managing
that traffic flow. Um and it's, you
[35:13]
know, it's off private property. It
interacts with, of course, whatever
[35:16]
we're going to do on the loan as entry
side, but these they have to work
[35:20]
together. It has to be a seamless plan.
It's just we're sort of more natural
[35:25]
owners uh both literal and potentially
and on the PO side. and figurative of
[35:30]
the problem side of of those two sides
of the equation, but they can't be they
[35:35]
can't be broken apart and I would argue
it would be very difficult to do them in
[35:40]
sequence instead of simultaneously
coming up with an overall solution.
[35:44]
That's what spy glass is supposed to
help us get. So our current ask and and
[35:49]
our only current ask is you know
hopefully a buyin to the vision of this
[35:54]
is a joint uh this is a joint project
either till finish or there's a reason
[35:59]
it can't be a joint project um but the
immediate next step and which is a
[36:04]
gating item is getting people smarter
than the expertise at least that resides
[36:09]
with the POA probably with the council
as well in in public project management
[36:14]
of this scale to help us actually map it
out to give us that roadmap to to get us
[36:20]
to where we need to be. So, it's $10,000
a month monthto-month. Um, you know,
[36:25]
we're looking to split that with the
council right now. And if enabling that
[36:30]
from a regulatory perspective or even a
span of control perspective, the POA
[36:37]
doesn't care. We just we just want Spy
Glass to to go to work. So if if we're
[36:42]
the prime contractor, if we're both or
the contract ee or if we're both on the
[36:46]
contract where only the city is and we
contribute, we are completely agnostic
[36:51]
on on enablement mechanisms. We just are
eager to to get the problem under
[36:57]
control and get kind of caught up with
the the time frame that's unfurling in
[37:02]
front of us.
Have have we engaged with the lakeway
[37:06]
city hall to see like if what they're
willing to contribute to the project?
[37:11]
» So we've we've all so Tom,
Sarah, myself, Angie,
[37:17]
and a few other representatives that
have previously met with both Mayor
[37:21]
Kilgore, city manager of Lakeway, and
the developer to discuss the
[37:27]
intersection.
They have a signed agreement for the
[37:31]
intersection design that's been
outstanding. I won't say approved
[37:37]
because from our side, we never really
approved it, but that's
[37:43]
probably neither here nor there at this
point, but there is a a design with a
[37:48]
traffic signal design. We've allocated
$100,000 per a prior agreement that the
[37:52]
city had made to contribute that to the
intersection traffic signals so that we
[37:58]
could sign off on design. There is a set
traffic design. What the mayor of
[38:04]
Lakeway and city manager have indicated
is that if there are changes to
[38:10]
the design or changes to
infrastructure, land,
[38:17]
you know, widening lanes, doing anything
else that we can suggest it if it's not
[38:24]
causing any damage to Lakeway, they
would be supportive of Village of the
[38:29]
Hills paying for whatever changes and
improvements and amendments we would
[38:35]
like to make. So part of this
preliminary design includes a right turn
[38:41]
lane to mer if you're going out of the
gate to merge on crossing. So that's
[38:45]
going to be across their property. So
our understanding we would no
[38:53]
» and that's all pending I think a lot of
the work this body is going to do
[38:56]
correctly. Yeah. So that's that's part
of we don't have enough information to
[39:00]
fully determine what the appropriate
layout of the intersection is. We have a
[39:05]
very nicely laid out preliminary plan,
but the intention of spy glass is one to
[39:11]
manage the project, but two also just
kick us off so we can actually figure
[39:14]
out how to best attack this problem. But
lakeways indicated they will work with
[39:20]
us, okay, is what they have said.
If I may just that that's very
[39:24]
consistent with sort of the we've had
informal conversations across different
[39:29]
people at different times as part of
this project and the signals that we've
[39:32]
got nothing official obviously the
signals we've gotten that very
[39:35]
consistent with that that they're
>> they understand it's a problem we're
[39:38]
trying to solve and sort of as long as
it doesn't cost them anything if you
[39:43]
will yes
>> uh they're [laughter]
[39:46]
they're they're good with it. The other
point I wanted to point out is the city
[39:50]
has in terms of ultimate enablement this
tool of you know a relatively common
[39:56]
off-the-shelf approach of an interlocal
agreement with Lakeway which is a much
[40:02]
more efficient and you know statutoily
recognized bureaucratic way to just get
[40:08]
to the problem quickly whereas it would
be much much more difficult for the POA
[40:14]
to negotiate that that same subject
matter. in a in a public to private.
[40:20]
» I agree with that.
>> Okay.
[40:23]
» Mayor, can I make I think there's a
timing issue too that we need to really
[40:28]
get on with this. It's a long process of
do all this coordination. There got to
[40:33]
be a cadre of professionals gathered,
another traffic engineer, a civil
[40:38]
engineer, a landscape architect, and of
course, you got to find a general
[40:41]
contractor. And in the background, uh
it's a bit mysterious, but all of those
[40:46]
professionals will go through a staged
uh process of getting where they need to
[40:52]
be to build something and they'll have
to come up with their own concept plan
[40:56]
that's approved. Then they'll that will
have to go to a schematic plan that
[41:01]
morphs into a design development plan.
And then finally, you get to a
[41:05]
construction document plan. Only then
are you ready to build. My point in
[41:10]
saying that is uh this takes time for
the professionals and to get it built.
[41:15]
My guess is by the time we start and go
release somebody like spy glass and to
[41:21]
get to a point of building this thing,
it's a year. So we need to move.
[41:27]
» So what does the eight months then
include for spy glass? He's he's
[41:31]
indicated a duration of eight months.
And in terms of scope, he's got
[41:34]
everything coordination, solicitation,
evaluation, all those things. ST I think
[41:38]
you mentioned
but are we saying after the eight months
[41:43]
is completed by spy glassass then we
would have those documents referencing
[41:46]
and then it would be
>> yeah I I Tom I s I would think that yeah
[41:51]
his uh whoever does this their their
first order of business is going to be
[41:56]
corelling and and guiding that whole
process with all of those subconsultants
[42:02]
into a coherent plan set. So there's got
to be that coordination across those
[42:07]
different disciplines. Uh early on uh I
have done these kind of projects my work
[42:12]
myself. Jim has done them. So we kind of
understand the process. Early on that
[42:17]
person will go out for competitive bids
based on percentage markups and other
[42:24]
fee kind of things. I would think early
to partner with a general contractor to
[42:28]
do costing along the way. And uh so
yeah, I'm sorry for rambling here, but
[42:35]
the first thing is to coales all the
professionals, then get a GC as a part
[42:40]
of that mix and then start doing it. I'm
just totally guessing that from the
[42:46]
start to the finish, we can drive on it,
it's done is a year.
[42:53]
» Does does Lakeway have a GC already
picked out for the intersection?
[42:59]
So they're my I have not met with any of
those, but
[43:03]
but my understanding is yes, they have a
general contractor of course doing their
[43:09]
uh main street. I think it's going to be
the same GC. That's a guess.
[43:14]
» Yeah. Yeah. So I would be curious if Spy
Glass has experience or relationship
[43:18]
with those guys. And then do you guys
envision spy glass being um forward
[43:23]
facing to the GC's or is there still
kind of somebody from the city side or
[43:28]
the PA pa side interfacing with lakeway
pulling permits etc.
[43:33]
» I would say that uh from the we I think
spy glassass needs to be in my capacity
[43:40]
of having done this for private owners
I've been named the owner's rep. So I
[43:45]
would become the face for everything and
the authoritative person to speak.
[43:50]
Obviously behind that uh there's a
process involved. I see spy glass
[43:56]
working that process becoming the face.
I don't know how the the city our city
[44:01]
wants to approach this as we're open to
however we need to do that. But I would
[44:06]
think on the POA side, we would probably
want to appoint another intersection
[44:12]
committee that I'm hoping Jim would
actually chair because he understands
[44:17]
the process really well. He knows some
of these people. He to speak for him,
[44:22]
but he's personally met with the mayor.
just has relationships that would be
[44:27]
very helpful in this arena. So I think
that behind the scenes somebody like Jim
[44:33]
can help spy glass and ensure that the
face is speaking what we want the face
[44:38]
to say. That makes sense.
>> He be I think he would be in every
[44:43]
meeting but there's two there's two sort
of communication channels workflows if
[44:47]
you will. sort of the political for lack
of a better term workflow and then
[44:51]
there's like the hardcore project
management. I think that he would be the
[44:57]
collectives face expert uh you know on
those topics. So it probably be
[45:02]
essential for him to be in every single
meeting. Um but there would be you know
[45:08]
a political overlay or the negotiation
of the local agreement that city
[45:12]
representative would be there. But
again, from talking to him, I think the
[45:16]
only way he's going to be successful is
if he has very limited points of
[45:20]
contact. And that I I would imagine
that's him, one person with like subject
[45:25]
matter knowledge like Jim or yourself
for each organization being the
[45:29]
interface from the organization to gym
and then whatever kind of broader
[45:33]
committee structures or community input,
you know, operate below that. But it all
[45:38]
rolls up to, you know, two two subject
matter experts talking to the subject
[45:43]
matter expert who's the quote unquote
face. And then, you know, the mayor for
[45:47]
the city and me for the POA during our
terms would kind of overlay when I guess
[45:52]
it's a little less. It's not angles and
roads. It's, you know, how do we
[45:57]
implement this? What's the time? What's
the procedure, communication strategy in
[46:01]
the fundraiser?
>> Yeah, the the or chart makes sense to
[46:03]
me. I just want to make sure that you
know he's interfacing
[46:07]
um
with the with the lakeway with the
[46:10]
developer with the GC and we want to
make sure he's got as much goodwill as
[46:14]
possible. Um so we could certainly kind
of help put lubricant on it but he's
[46:20]
going to have the relationships too I
hope.
[46:23]
» And and I'll tell you I know he does
know the developer and um he does know
[46:27]
the developer. hasn't worked for them
ever before, but he's [clears throat]
[46:30]
working on two projects like we just
talked about out out in Marble Falls,
[46:34]
out in Summit Rock, too. So, but he
knows um he does know this area. He does
[46:38]
know the contractor also. I know the
contractor. So, um so between the two of
[46:43]
us, yes, there would be that
communication you're talking about
[46:47]
as well. control.
The only thing I would add to that real
[46:52]
quick is that um yes, he would be over,
you know, he would be over bidding
[46:56]
listing out the engineer, landscape
architect, and the other um the other
[47:00]
professions that you just mentioned that
we would need in this. There's just a
[47:04]
few of them. Um and then uh and then you
would also have that interface with um
[47:09]
with the contract with the one we pick
and then with the city and this process
[47:12]
that we're talking about and we'll come
up with an organizational charge due to
[47:17]
follow and make sure that we're running
through the different you know the POA
[47:21]
and and the city here on any
communication having the city but we
[47:25]
have when I when I spoke to the city
just to kind of follow up on your
[47:28]
question earlier um we tried to look at
this preliminary um exhibit you know
[47:34]
this land plan together with the least
amount of changes to to their plan. Now,
[47:40]
the left turn lane coming off of Low's
Crossing and the right turn lane, those
[47:44]
are the and then also there's a
crosswalk. We want to make sure they
[47:48]
have in the right place to be able to
enter our our subdivision for the school
[47:53]
and for other people that are walking.
And so, those are the main things that
[47:57]
would affect that. I think by the way we
laid this out and like I said, we'll
[48:00]
verify this with the consultants that
are hired. I think we laid it out with
[48:04]
the with a minimal change to to their
plan
[48:10]
» and and again the the the project
[clears throat] that we're talking about
[48:14]
specifically is the intersection but
does it also include a internal rework
[48:19]
of the Lman's gate and kind of all those
roadways or no? Um uh the concept plan
[48:29]
is only a concept plan would envision uh
a new merge lane going out u as you come
[48:36]
in off of Lman's going north backing
that queuing lane up and then
[48:41]
potentially a turn lane going south on
Lman's from Emmas into our neighborhood
[48:47]
a new turn lane as I recall conditions
adding another uh res resonant gate.
[48:55]
[clears throat] So, we uh free that
queuing up, taking down the wall where
[48:59]
the current uh fence gate is. It's not
used anymore, [clears throat] making the
[49:05]
visibility more straightforward in
widening things. Our big it doesn't, it
[49:11]
also envisions pulling the flag pole
bed, if I can call it that, more forward
[49:16]
to create
more known route and to get around it so
[49:23]
people don't try to cut through there.
It does not envision reworking the guard
[49:27]
house at all. We don't think that needs
to be done. [clears throat]
[49:30]
» Does look like it also includes
extensive landscaping and new signage.
[49:34]
» Yes.
>> So, those are the visual improvements.
[49:37]
» Yeah. This is why I mean it's a joke
between Jim and I. He's a civil engineer
[49:41]
and his dad is a landscape. In my jobs,
I've said anybody can mess up a project
[49:46]
is a civil engineer. He said that's what
my dad used to say. He was a landscape
[49:49]
architect. So, yeah, we need civil
engineering to get it to get it right.
[49:53]
We need a landscape uh design, an
architect to get the softness right. U
[49:59]
the PLA envisions that kind of softness
uh and a and a a more gracious entrance.
[50:06]
Uh uh our there's some sentiment on the
POA board that our community our base uh
[50:14]
at the gates looks a little tired and
dated and that as a part of this process
[50:19]
we could uh fairly economically
incorporate it and give ourselves a bit
[50:25]
of a faceelift.
But part of that process is bring those,
[50:29]
you know, schematics to you guys during
that process so that you can see those
[50:34]
things and approve them as well. You
know, Mikey's mentioning there's there's
[50:38]
only so much you can do coming into the
subdivision, but once you get to the
[50:41]
creating that visibility better and
being able to bring traffic out of off
[50:46]
of Lmens to into our into our
neighborhood where our city where
[50:50]
[clears throat] it can get in and get
off of Lmens. That was the intent of the
[50:54]
of the concept plan. We will will not be
asking for any direct subsidy of any
[50:58]
private.
>> Sorry, what was that?
[51:01]
» We're not going to be asking for any
direct subsidy of improvement to private
[51:04]
properties.
>> I think that's like backing up this
[51:07]
whole project. The greatest complexity
of it is that it's a private and a
[51:10]
public kind of source of of area and
then those funds associated to those.
[51:19]
Um, and I appreciate what you just said
about this being on the private side of
[51:24]
things. Is there a way down the line
that things will be able to be kind of
[51:30]
vetted out that these are
improvements and projects specific to
[51:38]
» private property versus the public or
you know that the things that this the
[51:43]
village of the hills
>> can get LTFR on board to approve
[51:48]
» accordance to the safety plan. Are those
things that you all see?
[51:52]
» Well, I mean there's a there's a natural
physical line of demarcation in the
[51:56]
property line. So, I mean that's which
is to me at least the sort of conceptual
[52:01]
starting point is anything anything
that's not on POA property is on lakeway
[52:06]
property and that I consider that you
know your your operating field um you
[52:13]
through interlocal agreement and
negotiation with with a sister city. Um,
[52:18]
so I think the the challenge that you're
grappling with is I think largely
[52:22]
conceptual and I I guess that's a
conversation you have to have with your
[52:26]
the city attorney. But I mean I I shared
the I shared the very quick research I
[52:31]
did and since since we can't draw a
physical line and we don't want any
[52:36]
direct dollars allocated to any physical
property of the POA that you know we
[52:43]
want you to operate in what's happening
on an interlocal basis with lakeway land
[52:48]
and the problem set is how to take the
pieces that are out there and kind of
[52:55]
jigsaw them with pieces that are over
here on our plan to create efficient and
[53:00]
safe ingress and egress to the to the
city. Yeah.
[53:03]
» Which um I I believe and the city
attorney can correct me that there are
[53:07]
direct precedents of intersection
management outside the physical
[53:12]
boundaries of a city to enable major
traffic thorough affairs.
[53:17]
» Well, and don't you might call me wrong.
I think collaboration is the number one
[53:21]
thing that I would like to make sure
happens according to this project
[53:26]
because like you said the entrance the
visual side of things. City council has
[53:30]
talked about extending the entire
limestone wall system um to enhance as
[53:37]
well. So just want to make sure that
that is top of mind in the process.
[53:40]
» Yeah. If you have other projects that
are sort of ancillary or orthogonal to
[53:44]
this that it makes sense to bundle up
with since kind of while we're there
[53:48]
while we're doing it, you know,
absolutely our our our mind's open for
[53:51]
sure.
>> And do I understand from an
[53:53]
accountability standpoint, Joel, you'd
be the point of person point person on a
[53:58]
lot of the projects and
>> uh TBD, but if I would envision I'm
[54:06]
happy to be like the liaison. I was
liaison from the PLA to the first
[54:11]
intersection committee,
>> right?
[54:12]
» Uh but Jim's got more expertise and Jim
came out of a civil engineering
[54:17]
background and and much more suited for
this.
[54:20]
» These two will be involved if I can make
them involve. I mean, we're obviously
[54:24]
we're going to push the smartest people
to the front. No way it's going to be
[54:27]
me. So, [laughter]
>> I feel like I love both of them.
[54:30]
» He's asked me to be a liazison to, you
know, and kind of take keep the same
[54:34]
role with the POA. I tell them what the
policy sits around.
[54:38]
» Awesome. And according like with the
time because we are on a time crunch or
[54:42]
at least we feel it. Um I saw the POA is
hosting the meetings on the Lemons
[54:47]
intersection. Is that happening or would
that be happening just to keep the
[54:52]
motions?
>> We would have we would need to have
[54:55]
regular Yes. I'm willing to help if the
POA likely to do that as I'm willing to
[55:02]
help. Jim's willing to help.
>> I think that's required. Right. So
[55:05]
there's two things and I'll jump up in
front of you. So there's the agreement.
[55:10]
Do we have a spy glass which it seems
like that's predicates everything else,
[55:13]
right? We can't come up with anything
next step. So we would need to
[55:16]
understand can the city participate in
the funding of this in any way
[55:21]
standpoint or otherwise
separate apart from that because I agree
[55:25]
there is Tuesdays at 10:30 there's a
meeting that is on the weekly updates
[55:29]
from the POA that there's some
intersection committee happening. I
[55:32]
would advocate strongly that we get the
appropriate resources involved in a
[55:37]
weekly meeting so that we can
like we're on the wrong side of the time
[55:42]
frame right now. So this is an
eightmonth agree
[55:46]
scope of work with spy glass that
there's other things going on. I I
[55:51]
haven't listened to the Lakewood City
Council meeting from earlier this week
[55:54]
but last month it was um Joe Bland
construction's been signed for the road
[56:00]
work. that road work is going to be
completed in Q1 and Joe Bland has the
[56:04]
reputation of finishing early. So any
way that we can get like this thing
[56:09]
moving in whatever appropriate way but
then also from the collaboration between
[56:12]
the two entities and others the club or
otherwise to start having those weekly
[56:17]
or whatever the appropriate cadences get
those on the books and have some cadence
[56:22]
of accountability of what we're going to
be doing next
[56:25]
» in preliminary I mean certainly we want
all the stakes stakeholders at the table
[56:29]
um but I think that the mud they're
willing to be fast followers I mean
[56:33]
they're just there to
>> tell us what you're going to do and
[56:36]
we'll tell you if we need to react to
anything. So, they're they're kind of
[56:39]
tracking it, but they they haven't
necessarily said they want to be part of
[56:42]
the primary conversation. It's like when
when you sort of find something that we
[56:47]
need to be involved with with, we
absolutely want to be uh involved that
[56:52]
the conversation with the club without
speaking for them or saying it's a
[56:55]
commitment. For them it was more we are
generally invested in in improving the
[57:00]
aesthetic and when you have ideas about
that come talk to us about sponsorship.
[57:05]
So I
>> their input is important. I don't think
[57:08]
we're there
>> totally understand. I'm just putting it
[57:11]
out there. Whatever entities need to be
involved in the appropriate cadence.
[57:14]
Sometimes POA and the village need to be
engaged quickly if it's weekly or
[57:20]
otherwise and then as needed the other.
>> Yeah. What and what concerned us from
[57:25]
the feedback that we got the last time
is that if this if the public safety
[57:30]
blessing becomes a threshold for city
participation,
[57:35]
we don't think we'd have the ability to
get down all these steps to actually get
[57:39]
you a plan to be blessed by ourselves.
We don't we don't have the money or the
[57:47]
relationships
with Lakeway that you would bring to the
[57:52]
table to get us to that to that plan. I
mean at that point we'd have to sort of
[57:56]
re if the city's not able to participate
for whatever reason. I mean, at that
[58:01]
point, we'd have to go back and say,
either we do nothing, we the POA do
[58:04]
nothing and we react to whatever
develops or we would have to, you know,
[58:10]
dramatically change our budget and
consider a special assessment, which I I
[58:14]
think would be fairly controversial.
[58:19]
» Sorry, I know you want to
>> I just want to clarify that. So, there's
[58:23]
the
there's one contract for the POA work
[58:26]
that y'all are going to do around the
gate, right? And is that right?
[58:30]
» We No. So we haven't even gotten to that
right now.
[58:34]
» We're just talking about the spot glass
project management and pre-esign
[58:37]
project.
>> Tell us what we don't need to know. Tell
[58:39]
us what we don't know. Tell us who we
need to hire. Start start conceptually
[58:44]
identifying and and creating big
conversations around this. But we don't
[58:48]
have
>> you don't have a budget or anything for
[58:50]
the other project.
Okay, we're trying. We are
[58:54]
» in the very preliminary phase and spy
glassass is our sherpa for this whole
[58:58]
project on both sides of the property
line.
[59:01]
» Okay. What is it about this and what is
the agreement or what is Lakeway already
[59:05]
doing? Like they have a contractor you
said and they're doing some of the road
[59:08]
work already.
>> They're they're implementing the 2022
[59:11]
plan. They they are thus far satisfied
with their latest traffic study and the
[59:17]
four-way the four-way uh light that
we've signed up to since 2022 but
[59:22]
haven't implemented. That's their plan
>> and that's what the city has already
[59:27]
funded or committed to funding. Okay.
>> So, and they have I mean we've made
[59:32]
multiple approaches to them over the
years and said we we think it's
[59:35]
insufficient. the traffic study isn't
contemplating a lot of variables that
[59:39]
that have arisen since that traffic
study was done. We did our own traffic
[59:43]
study and they're like, "Hey, right now
we have an agreement. That's what's
[59:47]
going to happen as a as a default
matter. If you come to us with something
[59:52]
fully baked, fully funded, and we don't
have to do anything, we're open to it."
[59:56]
And that's been the posture for
essentially three years, I believe,
[1:00:02]
if not longer. If anything is if
anything the tone has gotten more
[1:00:07]
collegial and cooperative but the the
base position of this is as far as we
[1:00:13]
Lakeway are concerned this is baked
there's an agreement we you know we have
[1:00:17]
a traffic study we've checked all the
boxes
[1:00:20]
we we have a four-way intersection
that's that's funded and agreed that's
[1:00:24]
it that is correct
>> so so just out of abundance of clarity
[1:00:30]
and I support this glassass agreement
but is the POA saying that um without
[1:00:35]
participation economically from the city
that they are unable or unwilling to
[1:00:42]
sign glass agreement.
>> We don't I mean the five the five it
[1:00:46]
were to split this the $5,000 a month is
you know something that is not in
[1:00:51]
budget. We could we would go back and
try and move things around. We think
[1:00:54]
that this is a critical initiative but
um we can only get it so far and if and
[1:01:01]
if we start getting into six figures
then I I don't think we have that scope
[1:01:05]
without dramatically raising people or
doing
[1:01:16]
» okay and then even if we were to do that
sort of grab the project ourselves fund
[1:01:21]
it ourselves I still think we'd be doing
it one hand high behind your back as
[1:01:25]
we're have less standing. We don't have
the benefit of an interlog agreement
[1:01:28]
with with Lakeway. So we'd be the we'd
be the the suboptimal party to try and
[1:01:34]
solve that.
>> Do you have something to say to add?
[1:01:42]
No, I mean I'm just trying to I mean I
understand this is the issue just the
[1:01:46]
low just the spy glassass agreement is
the one that's before but just thinking
[1:01:50]
down the road I just I'm thinking about
okay
[1:01:53]
who's taking out this contract these are
public improvements we have procurement
[1:01:57]
rules that we have to follow or can you
know can the POA do those and just
[1:02:01]
[clears throat] that's why I was just
trying to understand sort of the what
[1:02:05]
part what part of the construction could
be part of an IA with Lakeway and then
[1:02:10]
what part would be the city's
contribution to the construction project
[1:02:16]
if if any but
>> I would assume a side glass professional
[1:02:20]
has done
maybe ours a little more unique but
[1:02:23]
would be able to
make sure we meet all those requirements
[1:02:30]
we understand these are traps you have
to run we are not proprietary about the
[1:02:34]
whole project I mean if you def if it
makes sense for the city to be in a lead
[1:02:38]
and us to support we're fine
um whatever that cooperation or legal
[1:02:43]
structure or legal enablement looks like
is completely fine with us. We just we
[1:02:48]
want to bring our resources to the
extent we have talented volunteers you
[1:02:52]
know with subject matter expertise we
want to bring that
[1:02:55]
um again at least at least in our minds
it's the most critical kind of
[1:03:00]
infrastructure question in front of the
community regardless of which
[1:03:04]
institution you overlay on top of the
community. Well, in my mind, my opinion
[1:03:09]
is that the POA has to regularly operate
and make it function. So, in my mind,
[1:03:15]
the POA should be in the driver's seat
for the majority of the project just
[1:03:20]
because the long-term plan for the POA
to manage it. you know this excuse me um
[1:03:28]
so the um hiring spy glasses we talked
about I mean they're going to set up
[1:03:33]
this so that we have an engineering firm
that has a project manager we got set it
[1:03:38]
up to where we have that contractor
we're talking about you'll have a
[1:03:40]
project manager too it'll be under his
umbrella which will be under us you know
[1:03:43]
whoever if y'all you know as Joel's
asked if I'll be le thear be ahead of
[1:03:48]
that committee of that part of it I I'll
be fully involved with that because
[1:03:52]
since [clears throat] the engineering
days I I've developed for the last 18
[1:03:55]
here. So, I have some background. I know
I know what I don't know, too. So, the
[1:04:00]
complicated part to me has always been
the different layers of the approvals
[1:04:04]
here, right, with the city and the mud
and BOA and and with the city of Lakeway
[1:04:09]
as well. And so, this first step of
hiring spy glass is so important to to
[1:04:14]
organize what we're all talking about.
But it's going to every question you all
[1:04:18]
have asked is very is is very um
important to this because it's going to
[1:04:22]
have we're going to get those answers
probably within the first I would tell
[1:04:26]
you the first 60 to 90 days of of spy
blast. So being on board with us because
[1:04:31]
I'm going to make sure we do and I've
worked [clears throat] with this with
[1:04:33]
that company before so I know what to
expect from them and I know they know
[1:04:37]
what to expect from me. So, we will
create that probably within the first 60
[1:04:41]
days um of hiring them. And so, we'll
have a better organization of what we
[1:04:45]
need to answer the questions to be able
to take whether it's to the city of of
[1:04:50]
Lakeway for right away issues, things
like that, or even just the other
[1:04:53]
funding issues that come up. Um, but
that's the important part of this.
[1:04:57]
That's what we don't have yet. Like you
said, we have a concept plan. We have
[1:05:00]
volunteers from the neighborhood that
come up with what we have. But this is
[1:05:03]
to set some of these things for y'all to
make better decisions from with
[1:05:08]
» But [clears throat] it's possible though
that I mean this is also the
[1:05:11]
construction management piece. So
>> that is
[1:05:14]
» once they come forward and y'all get the
plan and the budget,
[1:05:17]
» right?
>> I mean the city may decide not to have
[1:05:20]
anything to do with the with the with
the funding of that actual contract
[1:05:24]
though.
>> Yes sir.
[1:05:25]
» I mean Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. because Spy Glass would
[1:05:28]
state obviously they're we're going to
have to organize this ahead of time we
[1:05:30]
just talked about but then he is the
project manager and he's he's in the
[1:05:34]
field with the contractors meeting him
once a week. Um so like with these large
[1:05:39]
subdivisions that that he's worked on
and they've worked on and they um and
[1:05:44]
they follow the direction the questions
come through him. They'll come through
[1:05:47]
us come back to you guys if anything
comes up. But yeah, he'll be involved
[1:05:50]
from the preliminary engineering to CDs
to bidding to approvals and and then
[1:05:58]
also to the construction of it and to
you know finalizing it. It's not
[1:06:01]
necessarily a CMO here but it's a
finalized inspection and all that. So
[1:06:06]
that his contract does follow that
through all those steps.
[1:06:13]
And the timing of this, like we talked
about, the signal, from my
[1:06:16]
understanding, at one point, the city of
Lakeway had it on the developer of the
[1:06:21]
southern across the way to have that
started in October. And watching and
[1:06:27]
ever since I've been on this committee,
even before then, I've been watching the
[1:06:29]
construction of the bridge going over
there close to the close to HB over
[1:06:33]
there. And they're looks to me like
they're ahead of schedule, but I do
[1:06:37]
think that once that happens, we're
going to see a lot more happen pretty
[1:06:40]
quickly this direction. And so the
signal starting in October because the
[1:06:45]
developer has a certain amount of
dollars set, you know, set with the city
[1:06:49]
to make sure that they do it. If they
don't do it, then the city can do it.
[1:06:52]
Well, you know, I don't think the city
will do it ahead of them, but I do see
[1:06:55]
sometime this fall, you know, late fall
that signals starting starting up and
[1:07:01]
you know, I think they think it's more
towards Easter and stuff. But like I
[1:07:04]
said, those are just some of the
preliminary things we're hearing, but
[1:07:06]
we'll verify those.
>> But I just to make sure I'm clear there,
[1:07:10]
too. So the traffic signal diagram
that's been created
[1:07:16]
two years ago
if that were to be implemented it would
[1:07:21]
conflict with the conceptual drawing
especially with the right hand correct.
[1:07:25]
Is that correct?
>> So the right hand turn lane comes out
[1:07:27]
what we try to do if we if we do
designated right turn lane it's after
[1:07:31]
the signal it should not affect that
signal. So
[1:07:34]
» it's the stacking especially we put a
lane in exiting our subdivision or our
[1:07:38]
city it um it comes out the stacking is
separate all that so it comes out after
[1:07:42]
the signal should not affect that signal
>> where those four signals I'm sorry to
[1:07:47]
interrupt yeah where those four
post would be
[1:07:51]
» for the original or the existing design
with what your concept is that would not
[1:07:57]
disrupt what they have in place
>> it wouldn't disrupt from what I've seen
[1:08:00]
right now it would not that island
that's left there the right turn lane
[1:08:04]
being far enough to the to the south or
to the to the right of the intersection
[1:08:08]
um leaves that room there for that
conceptually. Yeah.
[1:08:12]
» And the only thing we looked at that we
needed to do was to really improve the
[1:08:15]
cross. I mean there's going to be timing
you know obviously after the signals in
[1:08:20]
there's timing [clears throat] working
with timing on light the signals and
[1:08:23]
things like that during peak hour but
the main thing I saw was like we talked
[1:08:26]
about it's the large island it's the
landscape areas it's the um it's the
[1:08:30]
walk it's the crosswalks and u and then
that like I said that um that turn lane
[1:08:36]
is should be outside of it.
[1:08:41]
I had a question
just
[1:08:45]
to not
be one of those
[1:08:52]
like opening everything up
[1:08:56]
» opening up the intersection
>> or like the guard house like just making
[1:09:01]
it more visible I think was the
>> well one of it was that it's going to be
[1:09:05]
a pretty main entrance for the sub for
our city right so that was just a
[1:09:09]
suggestion from us from our committee
was let's show a plan that would open
[1:09:13]
this open open this up as turning it in
from a side entrance or you know pretty
[1:09:17]
much a main entrance for us who live
here but [clears throat] making it look
[1:09:20]
like a main entrance.
>> Yeah.
[1:09:22]
» And that's what it was for
>> and I think that by adding that other
[1:09:27]
like I said there's going to be a lot of
stacking coming in off of Lance
[1:09:30]
Crossing. So, we're trying to give it
room to get into our area, into our
[1:09:34]
guard, our our entrance area in order
for it to feed into the neighborhood
[1:09:38]
because we have probably five peaks
here. You know, we have we have an early
[1:09:43]
morning work peak, you know, traffic, we
have a school peak, we have a lunchtime
[1:09:47]
peak, we have a school peak, then we
have people coming home again. You know,
[1:09:50]
there that's a busy it's a busy um guard
as we all know. So, anyway, that's that
[1:09:55]
was the intent.
>> Yeah.
[1:09:58]
So the specific ask is to go 5050 on the
side glass today. Is that correct?
[1:10:04]
» Yes.
>> And just and we would just be deciding
[1:10:08]
on the spy glass. We would not be
committing ourselves or assuming any
[1:10:14]
potential future expenditures without
further
[1:10:19]
» you're just helping us bring the problem
into sharper focus so we can have more
[1:10:22]
actionable steps. Does anybody have
legal questions for Josh that they would
[1:10:27]
want to address in executive session or
anything? I know we've had this topic
[1:10:31]
discussed before, but
[1:10:36]
» I don't know what has to be reserved for
executive versus
[1:10:41]
» questions.
Is there anything
[1:10:45]
any concerns about
what are the mechanics that the city
[1:10:50]
would have for this agreement? Do we
need to be the one signing it? Does it
[1:10:54]
need to turn into a a third a
three-party agreement or can the POA
[1:10:58]
sign and then this council approved to
commit the funds to that? What are the
[1:11:06]
what's the vehicle?
>> Well, those are policy choices. I mean
[1:11:09]
legally if you guys and I would suggest
that we put this in writing somewhere
[1:11:13]
even if it's just a short resolution
saying that you find that
[1:11:18]
you know funding these studies and these
contract managements that they serve a
[1:11:24]
public purpose to the residents right
and that they're going to help you
[1:11:27]
determine if there are public
improvements that you can fund later I
[1:11:31]
don't have any issue with with that
piece of
[1:11:44]
I think there are quite a few issues
that we'd have to work through and if
[1:11:49]
and when you guys decide that to
participate in the
[1:11:55]
bigger piece of the project
action.
[1:11:59]
» Do we need a res? So to approve
this our
[1:12:06]
portion our partial funding of the spy
glass agreement as a structure now we'd
[1:12:11]
be funding it directly
to the POA correct or would we be
[1:12:17]
» well that's I mean we could do a we
could do a project funding agreement
[1:12:21]
with the POA and we could put in the
recital that y'all if y'all find that
[1:12:25]
and then we can put in whatever
you um whatever you strings you want to
[1:12:31]
put with the money, the reporting or the
the liaison assignment, those kind of
[1:12:36]
things or you know and that's what I
probably would do.
[1:12:40]
» Can we approve today then a project
approve a project funding agreement?
[1:12:47]
» Sure. for $5,000 a month
um to be approved by
[1:12:53]
» to be applied towards this
>> to be applied toward
[1:12:56]
» spy glassass
>> the spy glassass agreement
[1:13:01]
» as signed off by you Angie and myself
that today
[1:13:05]
» sure
[1:13:10]
» I'll make that motion with uh the change
that we um limited to one year 5,000
[1:13:17]
one year and then we revisit it.
[1:13:24]
» Any additional questions or discussion?
Okay. All in favor?
[1:13:30]
» I. All oppose? None. Motion carries.
Thank you for your thorough
[1:13:36]
walk. Thanks for the partnership as
always and I think we're not going to be
[1:13:40]
able to do this without [clears throat]
one another. So
[1:13:43]
» hopefully we'll continue to navigate it.
I was just gonna say you guys have a
[1:13:47]
really deep bench, strong bench, so high
confidence in your execution.
[1:13:52]
» Appreciate it. The only other question,
sorry, is
[1:13:56]
» is there an anticipation given what you
just heard that you guys would execute
[1:13:59]
this earliest opportunity? And if so,
when would Spy Glass be able to start?
[1:14:04]
» ASAP. I mean, we'll call them now.
>> So, but they they have given indication
[1:14:09]
they could start September.
>> Yes, they [clears throat] can start
[1:14:12]
immediately.
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you.
[1:14:16]
Thank you.
[1:14:23]
» Okay.
[1:14:31]
» Okay. Okay. Item G, discuss, consider,
and take any necessary action regarding
[1:14:36]
ordinance number 2026- 0004, an
ordinance of the city council of village
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of the hills, Texas, declaring the
unopposed candidates
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for election to offices of mayor and two
city council members November 3rd, 2026
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general election elected to office
providing that such candidates shall be
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issued certificates of election and
shall qualify for office in the same
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manner at the same time as candidates
elected at election cancelling the
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November November 3rd, 2026 general
election, providing for posting of the
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election cancellation, finding and
determining that the meeting at which
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this ordinance is passed was open to the
public as required by law, providing a
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severability clause, providing a savings
clause, and providing an effective date.
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I move to approve ordinance 2026-004.
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Okay. So, item G, the ordinance. Do we
have a second?
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I'll second.
Any questions or discussion?
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All in favor? I. All opposed? None.
Motion carries. Item H, discuss,
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consider, and take any appropriate
action regarding budget amendments.
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So, since the meeting has started, Joyce
sent
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a updated spreadsheet that was requested
by me to highlight some of the amended
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figures.
um
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which her greatest question by messaged
to me was the legal notice
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budget is still remains at 5500
Angie and so her question is
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how many one I know we've had multiple
postings so we probably haven't received
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those invoices yet
>> correct
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» and it sounds like we're going to have
at least one one two more do we need to
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keep 5500 in bucket or should we
>> I would keep it in there.
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» So if you want to let Joy know her to
ping you on that but
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» okay leave that unchanged.
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greatest the biggest changes she made
were
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all across the revenue.
Um
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and then law enforcement was the other
significant figure that she wanted to be
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sure that we were covered for by
September 30.
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I would move to approve these
for the 2025 2026 budget.
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» I'm just I'm not familiar with what
we're doing here. Are we what amendments
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are last year's budget?
>> So
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one is there's an an increase of re we
collected significantly more this year
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in revenue than what we expected when we
adopted the budget. Our initial budget
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was $1,50,390.64.
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We are expecting to collect this year
then 1,123,833
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through to the end of the month which is
the end of our fiscal year. So we would
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adopt that amendment.
Then there's various expenses
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uh related to salary reductions in
computer office equipment
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subscriptions.
Slight increase in insurance premium
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reduction in bonds. Slight increase in
bank service charges.
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Significant decrease in training and
travel. Significant decrease in what we
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actually expected versus what we
expected for meetings. Legal notices we
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just discussed. Law enforcement an
increase. Elections will be a slight
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decrease.
Interlocal agreement
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slight decrease.
So what we were doing, oh mowing and
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maintenance, there was a decrease as
well. We increase the law
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» law enforcement
increase law enforcement.
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So given our ex so again I just
referenced the revenue or reference the
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general fund expenses that were budgeted
for the year were149,652.97.
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We are amending it to reduce our
expenses to $986,2172.
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We had originally budgeted a sur a
surplus of $73767.
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We are coming in to the amended budget
for the end of this fiscal year at
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$137,615.98
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surplus.
So those are the changes.
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» Yeah.
>> So we're just adopting the changes to
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reallocate
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So I'll second
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» all in. Any additional questions or
discussion?
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» So ju just apologies just from a
mechanic standpoint to catch up. So like
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if if I look at walking trail
maintenance for 15,000 it's still in
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there for the amended budget but we're
not renew that.
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» That could be our notes. Yeah.
>> But what's the benefit or the like why
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would we we're not going to spend it so
it's going to be a surplus and just goes
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into a reserve account.
>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
>> More favorable
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certain.
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» Yeah. If we were going to do it for the
end of the month and we had already done
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sufficient maintenance, we could then
allocate to that.
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» Or if there were, you know, wildfire
mitigation stuff we had to do or things
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of that nature that were
going to come in.
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» Okay. Thank you.
>> Like road repairs, which we do need to
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do. We just wouldn't have time. There's
a pothole that we can fix or need to fix
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that we allocated for next budget cycle.
[laughter]
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All in favor?
I. All oppose. None. Motion carries.
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We do not need to do executive session.
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Next agenda item. We've moved a few
including the approving the finance
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treasure report for August 2026 as well
as the application of the parks and
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recreation commission of Tiana Felman.
Is there any other business that we
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would like to
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add now to the next agenda? Of course
you guys everybody is welcome to request
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new agenda items ahead of the next
meeting.
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I would just ask that the September 22nd
meeting only be for the tax rate
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any other extremely pressing matters
session.
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Okay.
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There being no further business I will
entertain a motion to adjurnn.
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There a second.
>> All in favor? I. All opposed? None.
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Motion carries. Meeting is adjourned at
10:26