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to our um it is January 22nd
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7:05. Go ahead and do roll call.
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>> Denise Hall, present.
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>> Julie Bro, present.
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>> Chanel Roth, present.
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>> Chase Randall, library director,
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present.
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>> Keani Masherino, present.
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>> Crystal Warmer, present. Jesse Lloyd,
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present.
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>> And then Malcolm Walden and Melody
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Gochas have asked to be excused for
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today.
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Um, since Melody is not here, we'll go
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ahead and turn the time over to Chicks
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for any library updates.
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>> Okay. So, if you look at the I have kind
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of the notes of some of the big ticket
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items for my comments today. So, the
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first cool thing that I want to share
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some general announcements. So, this
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library was originally a Carnegie
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founded library
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and I got an email from the Carnegie
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Foundation that as part of the America
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250 celebration that they've reached out
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to all of the I think it was over 2,000
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Carnegie libraries that were founded by
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the Carnegie by Andrew Carnegie back in
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the day. Um, and then about I think it
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was like 1,500ish of those are still
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operating. and the Carnegie Foundation
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is going to be giving us a $10,000 grant
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>> that's a Celebrate America 250.
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>> Um, so that'll be really nice. And I
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already have a plan of what to do with
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that. So on the next line item, if you
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guys go over to the junior section of
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the library, you'll notice we now have a
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fourperson study pod. Um, I went and got
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that myself with the with the city's
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maintenance guys. We got in a truck and
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we drove up to the North Logan City
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Library that they were getting rid of
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theirs. And so I spent a whole day
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taking that thing apart and bringing it
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back. Um I didn't put it back together.
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The other guys did, but um they put it
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back together. Um and so we got that for
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nice and cheap. And so then the plan is
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I want to get two of the individual
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study pods because often we have people
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that use our reading rooms, but those
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can hold up to 12 people or six people
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and but like 80% of the time it's just a
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single person. So this way what I'm look
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what I'm want to do is get two of the
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single ones are kind of like a phone
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booth style. Um so I hope to use that
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$10,000 for that sometime this spring.
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>> So could people use it as a phone booth?
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>> I wish I had
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>> Yeah, exactly. No, that's the point,
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right? If if people are on the like need
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to make a phone call or things like
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that, you don't want to step outside,
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right? You can go in there. It's not
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perfectly soundproof, but it's pretty
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good. So um so that that was a lot of
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that was a that was a long day.
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interesting day, but it was good cuz
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well the other problem was there was an
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accident on I80. So it took us till
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9:00. We left at 6:00 and took us till 9
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to get out of the valley.
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>> It was crazy.
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>> Um so the other big news is online
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payments are now available. So people
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can pay for their non-resident fee. They
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can um pay for their car, pay for a lost
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card fee or if they lost a book and they
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don't want to buy a new one, they just
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want to pay for it, they can now do all
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those things online now. So, that was
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one of my big projects this year. It
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took way longer than I thought it would,
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but it's finally done.
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>> Just curious, what what program are they
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using for
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>> So, we're using Smart Pay. Um, Smart Pay
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with Comprise. Um, it's the same vendor
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that we use that provides our kiosk
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payment terminals. And what I'm going to
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do now that online is available to to
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keep this as cost neutral to the library
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is I'll be getting rid of two of our
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credit card terminals on the kiosk. So,
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we'll keep one, but then we'll still
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have the we'll just have the one on now.
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People can pay online, they can pay at
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the kiosk, or they can pay at the
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information desk. So, we still have all
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those options for people to make
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payments.
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>> Does that mean someone can get an online
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resident library card online or do they
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have
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>> That is still coming. Um I I there's
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some changes that I need to make to the
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system to allow that. We currently have
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that function turned off because we have
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to jump through a couple more hurdles on
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that, but I wanted to get this done
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first. And then my goal is is by summer
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reading that that will be available that
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you can be in Iranberry
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or Bransville or Vernon even like
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anywhere in Tilla really Tilla County
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and you can go online and get a library
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card all completely online without
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actually having to come physically into
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the building. So that's my goal for this
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year. That's my big project to get done
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this year.
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>> That's awesome. So
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>> and then what happens with the physical
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library card? So that's what that those
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are some of the hurdles I still need to
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figure out of like if they would just
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get a digital card and then we could
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mail them a physical card or so working
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on those logistics is the project.
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>> Yeah. My brother's library in Virginia.
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I got a card from them just all online
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and I just got me the card number and a
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pin and put it on my Libby.
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>> Yeah. So So that's what So we'll
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probably do something like that. That's
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what we're we're looking at doing.
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>> Um Yeah. And I have that as my next
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thing. apply for and renew on library
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cards online is my goal is sometime this
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year technically before summer reading
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>> reading. Okay.
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>> Um and then I would also add that as
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part of America 250 we're doing some
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special displays and then we're
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partnering with the city for a bunch of
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activities that will really start
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ramping up as we get closer to summer
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and especially during summer reading and
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um we'll have different programs and
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events to celebrate America 250. ordered
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a bunch of um books celebrating America
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and American history and we we'll have
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some special displays and I'm hoping to
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get some more decoration as well in the
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library for that. So stay tuned. That's
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all coming in the next couple of weeks.
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Um
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staff news. So we are fully staffed.
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However, in between the time that we had
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our last meeting and this meeting, I did
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have a staff member that that left and
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we did hire a new person. We poached her
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from the parks and recck department. Um,
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so yeah, you heard you heard about
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>> nothing else.
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>> So, so we we happily poached her away
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from the parks and recck department and
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um due to some cost savings, we were
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actually able to make her a regular
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part-time employee instead of a a
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cyclical employee. So, that was that was
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nice. So, we have a little bit more
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staff hours and so we're going to be
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able to expand our programs a little
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bit. Not a ton, but optimize more of
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that and then also just have a little
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bit more staff hours. Um, as far as the
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building and grant project updates, so
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our north side has been fully zeros
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escaped. You can and you can see all
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that and all that beautiful rock. Um,
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and then we've got the picnic tables
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installed. Um, and we our HVAC system is
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currently undergoing a big upgrade that
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increases the effectiveness and
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efficiency. Essentially, they're going
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through and replacing all the valves
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that control the air flow in the
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ceiling. Um, because apparently a lot of
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them have been broken. So that's been
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it's kind of revealing to be like,
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"Yeah, that's why this room's always
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cold or hot or whatever it is." So
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they're working on that. Um hopefully in
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the next couple of month, uh next couple
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of weeks that will be completed. They
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just ran into some issues where um they
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get up there and it's like, "Oh,
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actually this whole thing is broken." So
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we instead of replacing just this one
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piece, we have to replace this whole
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section. And and since I'm not managing
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that project, that's through the parks
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and recck department. Just
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communication's a little bit slower. And
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then we're also going to be getting new
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digital thermostats so that every it'll
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be a smart system. Um, we're not getting
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a new chiller like I thought we would be
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getting this year. Just turned out to be
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too expensive. So, we are getting that
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next year. So, that'll be really nice
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when that's all done. Um, and then the
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stamped concrete east project has also
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been finished. You can see out there we
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got the beautiful stamped concrete and
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the rock around the trees. So now the
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last big project for as far as the zero
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escaping and and building maintenance is
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the big grass area in the front and on
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the east side of the library. Um so I
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have some I had a meet I had a
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preliminary meeting with our new mayor, Manzion. Um I don't can't share
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details at this meeting yet, but I hope
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next meeting to be able to share some
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awesome plans. It seems I was given she
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gave me very tentative approval. Um, but
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then we still have to go through the
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whole budget process and and capital
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projects and everyone else also also
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asking for money. So, we'll see where
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that goes. But let's just say I'm I I'm
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extremely excited for it. I think it'll
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be I'm not just going to zero it. We're
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going to put it to some use. So, TBD on
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that. Um, some event highlights that
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we've got going on. So, we're back in
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the swing of things with normal programs
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after our our Christmas break and then
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we're starting to gear up for summer
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reading. Um hopefully friends of the
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library will be contributing to
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>> planning on it. We just haven't
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Arizona's been gone so we haven't had a
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meeting yet.
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>> Oh, okay. So, um so we'll get that uh
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our donation from the friends of the
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library bookstore here and then we'll be
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getting tons of awesome prizes and
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everything. So stay tuned for summer
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reading. Um we also have apparently a
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lot of blood needs is needed. So blood
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drives we got on the 30th, the 17th and
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then of February and of March. So if you
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have any extra blood, you can bring it by the library. Um so and then
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we have an after hours book club on
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January 30th and February 27th. This is
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for adults as well. Um so it's the adult
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after hours book clubs on our Fridays.
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And then our big event in February is we
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had a K-pop demon hunter sing along here
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in the community room
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>> and the registration filled up like
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within the first couple hours after we
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made it available um because we could
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only fit so many so many people in this
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room.
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>> One of them.
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>> So uh so we booked it out now that it's
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going to be in the main area of the
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library. So basically as many people as
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>> within reason can attend as possible. So
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>> call the fire.
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>> The fire car.
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>> I know. So that'll be get happening on
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the 20th and that'll be after hours. So
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it'll be at 6:30 on a Friday. We close
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at 6:00 to the public and then we'll
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open it up for for this event
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>> in February. The demon hunters
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>> February 20th February 20th K-pop Demon
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Hunters sing along.
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>> So and then today
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>> tell my kids
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>> uh today the only big
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>> I will not be telling my kids.
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>> The only big thing we're discussing is
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just the uh an update to the circulation
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policy. So
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>> okay, any questions or
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Oh, did you I don't know if the programs
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has told you the Wacky Wednesday fills
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up within an hour.
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>> We're looking at
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>> that. We're looking at that as well.
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>> It fills up. It filled up fast. I was
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like, "So is Wacky Wednesday." And me
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and the three other moms that send our
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kids are like, "We didn't get like
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forget." So, with the new with the new
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staff member, um that's something that
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we we're looking
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>> because originally we brought her on for
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only 15 hours a week, but I was get her up to 25 hours a week. So, I'm
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hoping to allocate a chunk of those
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hours towards programs so we can expand
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our program. So, TBD.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But it's being looked at.
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>> I had to send one kid one week cuz one
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spot. I was like, "Sorry, my other kid."
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Mm-m.
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>> So,
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>> but thanks for bringing that up. I won't
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>> I was just like just a heads up that one
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is
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>> also popular. Good. Okay.
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>> I'd rather have that problem.
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>> Yes.
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It's a good problem.
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>> I mean, all of your programs have that
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reputation.
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>> Yeah.
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>> It's been
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to the sign up, the city one. That's
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when it's
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>> all of a sudden now it's just fills
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right up.
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>> Okay.
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>> I don't know why, but
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>> people are seeing it more or something.
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>> I hope I would hope so. Yeah. It's a
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good way. We made that switch partly for
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that reason. So, it's one place to go
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to. So, we'll
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Okay, any other questions or comments?
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Okay. So, let's talk about um the
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circulation policy. So, this this policy
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we've I've actually already updated it.
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Um I had to kind of do a quick um uh a
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quick update with this policy and the
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mayor already has signed it and approved
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it. um these changes uh just due to the
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fact of the timing that I needed to get
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it done sooner rather than later than
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waiting for this meeting um because on
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the advice of the attorney I had to make
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these changes before I could send people
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to collections. So what we what I've now
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what we've now started doing um if you
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look under section nine of the
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circulation policy so it's on page three
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um made some updates to this section.
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I'll read through those and we'll we'll
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talk about them. So 9.2 Two, we
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clarified that when any item other than
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a device or technology item is overdue
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by more than 14 calendar days, the
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patron will be build for the item and
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circulation privileges will be blocked.
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Devices and technology items will be
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build to the patron on the first
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calendar day overdue and circulation
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privileges will be blocked. Obviously,
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since those are higher ticket items, we
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don't give you that 14-day grace period.
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Um, so 9.3 is where the big changes were
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made. So, the new um paragraph says,
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"Patrons who fail to return or pay for a
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library materials for more than 30 days
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shall be referred to the city attorney
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for further action, which may include
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prosecution for library theft. After
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referral, an additional attorney
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processing fee will be added to the
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library account according to the current
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fines and fees schedule. Library
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accounts that remain delinquent 30 days
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after referral, the city attorney may be
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referred to a third party collection
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agency. the account holder shall be
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liable for any crude costs, fees, and
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charges incurred in the pursuit and
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execution of collection efforts. So, we just had to add that language before
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to make it abundantly clear that we have
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people and I want to clarify this is not
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everybody. This is people that have many
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items that have not been returned and
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we're talking hundreds of dollars.
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Um I ran a report of the last 5 years
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and we had almost $50,000 worth of
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unreturned books.
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>> Oh wow.
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>> So
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>> I thought my decent amount that's about 40% of my annual budget for
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books.
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So, and then so I filtered I filtered
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that and I was like, "Okay, what about
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how many of these are just are like our
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big ticket item are people that owe
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let's say like $100 or more and half
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that amount was people that owe $100 or
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more of books." So,
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>> so they're just blatantly not Yes.
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>> the returning stuff.
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>> Yeah. So, these are and I will say that
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the when I when I had this discussion
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with the city attorney, let's just say
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he recognized
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>> a lot some of the names of of of people.
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So the idea frequent flyers.
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>> Yes.
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>> So the idea behind this is I'm only I'm
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sending those kind of higher ticket. Um
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so if it's just you forget one book,
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we're not sending the collections for
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one book. It has to be a lot. Um
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and so but I want to clarify that we
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give we I want to walk through the
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process so you guys understand. Um, so
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if you don't return the item, you then
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have 14 days. And if since from its due
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date, only once it's overdue by more
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than 14 days, then when do we block your
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account and it kicks you out of Libby
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and you can't check out or put more
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items on hold until you return or pay
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for or replace the books that you have
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checked out. And then if after another
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30 and you get an email notification as
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well. If after 30 days after it was due,
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you still haven't returned the item or
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done anything, then we send you a
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letter. Then another 30 days after that,
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then we if you still haven't returned
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it. So we're now going on almost 2
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months from when it was due, then we
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refer you to the city attorney's office
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and then they send you a letter and then
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another 30 days. So it's it's 4 months
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after
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>> my gosh,
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>> before we would send someone to
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collections. So they've got they would
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have gotten multiple notices, email um
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and letters both from our from the
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library and from the city attorney. Um
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and then people who are sent to
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collections they can either come and pay
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us or they can pay the collection agency
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whichever they want to do. um we talked
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about possibly cuz you if you look in
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the section you do see it says including
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prosecution for library theft that was
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that option was discussed but just based
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on talking with the city attorney as
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well as seeing what other libraries do
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sent just sending people to collections
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makes the most sense as it's the least
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amount of work for the for the city but
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then also people actually have responded
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better I I talked to some other library
[16:02]
directors and they said that no we found
[16:03]
that people actually responded better
[16:05]
like they got more people paid paid
[16:07]
their bill or returned the items if they
[16:09]
were sent to collection versus being
[16:11]
prosecuted. So anyway, I thought that
[16:13]
was an interesting
[16:14]
>> be the other way around.
[16:15]
>> Yeah, you'd think personally.
[16:17]
>> Yeah, legal, right?
[16:19]
>> Well, most people do return the items
[16:22]
once they get the letter from the
[16:23]
attorney's office. We have noticed that
[16:24]
that's
[16:25]
>> cuz it's probably been in their car
[16:27]
>> back into the house and back to the car
[16:29]
several times. It still hasn't
[16:31]
>> or it's I mean, if it's lost, you have
[16:33]
to copy. Well, I I recently found the
[16:36]
book that I paid for cuz I could not
[16:39]
find it. I'm like, I tore my house
[16:41]
apart.
[16:41]
>> Mhm.
[16:42]
>> And I'm helping my friend sell her house
[16:44]
and we were packing up and she it was in
[16:47]
her daughter's room.
[16:48]
>> And she goes, "Well, you gave it to us."
[16:50]
And I was like, "I did not get the
[16:52]
library."
[16:53]
>> Not belong to.
[16:54]
>> And I'm like I'm looking at it and as
[16:56]
soon as I see it, I'm like, "That's the
[16:58]
book I paid $40 for." And so I have it
[17:01]
back now. But now it's mine cuz I paid
[17:04]
for it.
[17:05]
>> So, and we do offer
[17:06]
>> you can I know
[17:08]
>> if it's within a year.
[17:09]
>> If it's older than a year, we say we're not issuing a refund for that. But
[17:14]
>> no, or and but then something else
[17:15]
people forget, you can also replace it.
[17:17]
However, the keys with replacing it is
[17:19]
it has to be a new copy
[17:22]
>> because we've had people try and bring
[17:23]
in other libraries discarded versions of
[17:27]
like here's a replacement. It's like
[17:29]
>> yeah, I know you got this for five bucks
[17:31]
off. through the free charge the book
[17:33]
what the book is.
[17:34]
>> Yeah, roughly just a generic fee.
[17:37]
>> No, so it's it's the value of the book
[17:39]
plus a couple dollars usually.
[17:40]
>> Yeah, cuz they're library grade. Like
[17:42]
most of them are nicer than
[17:44]
>> Well, yeah.
[17:46]
>> library binding or and we also put like
[17:48]
the plastic on them and those kind of
[17:50]
extra steps.
[17:51]
>> So that's why I was like, I'll keep it
[17:52]
now.
[17:54]
>> Anyway, so we made all these changes and
[17:57]
I started sending people to collections
[17:58]
back in early December. So, how's that
[18:01]
working out?
[18:02]
>> Um, I haven't heard anything back so far
[18:04]
cuz I said just cuz I I guess they still
[18:06]
have to process and start doing all
[18:07]
their things. So, December,
[18:08]
>> we'll see. Hopefully, maybe maybe soon.
[18:11]
>> How much are collection fees?
[18:13]
>> So, we don't charge an extra collection
[18:15]
fee. We just charge the attorney fee.
[18:18]
So, the attorney the we call it an
[18:19]
attorney fee and it's $30. So, if you
[18:22]
get to the point where we refer you to
[18:24]
the attorney's office and they send you
[18:25]
a letter, then an extra $30 charge is
[18:28]
added to your account. It's not very
[18:29]
much for an attorney fee.
[18:31]
>> Yeah. So that's Well, all this all the
[18:33]
attorney does is he they have the form
[18:35]
letter and he signs them and then sends
[18:37]
them. So
[18:37]
>> most attorneys charge like hundreds of
[18:39]
dollars an hour.
[18:41]
>> Yeah.
[18:42]
>> It's a minimum fee.
[18:43]
>> Yeah. And so we decided not to add any
[18:45]
other fee because we figured that $30
[18:47]
covers that. And
[18:49]
>> and we'll have people that'll come in
[18:50]
and pay for all the books, but then they
[18:52]
won't pay the attorney fee and they just
[18:54]
don't want to use the library anymore.
[18:55]
So it's like, okay, whatever. So
[18:59]
>> anyway,
[18:59]
>> that's a bummer.
[19:00]
>> Any questions or concerns on that?
[19:03]
>> Seems fair.
[19:04]
>> Okay.
[19:06]
All right.
[19:09]
So, next.
[19:10]
>> So, do we need to sign that one?
[19:12]
>> So, this one it's already that this
[19:14]
version that you have was just the red
[19:15]
lines version. If you look on the
[19:16]
library's website, the updated version
[19:18]
is already on there.
[19:19]
>> Okay.
[19:20]
>> Because the the signature that that
[19:22]
matters is the mayor is the mayor.
[19:26]
>> Um, so see how it
[19:29]
>> I didn't think you guys needed to sign
[19:30]
that one since it's already official,
[19:32]
but I wanted to make you all aware and everything with that. So, okay. Um,
[19:38]
next
[19:39]
part of the we have a strategic plan and
[19:42]
a technology plan for the library. And
[19:44]
these are three-year plans. And part of
[19:46]
it is that I should generally try to
[19:48]
review these with the board um once a
[19:50]
year. I think January is when we adopted
[19:52]
it. So, it's been a year. So, I'd like
[19:54]
to read through them with you and then
[19:56]
kind of give you updates on where we're
[19:57]
at with them, what things have changed
[19:59]
or not changed or um things like that.
[20:01]
And then we will look at adopting a new strategic plan and a new technology
[20:06]
plan in 2028. So, we we're not we can
[20:10]
start talking about maybe things to add
[20:13]
or change or or look at for the future,
[20:15]
but um we're not we wouldn't be making
[20:17]
any changes to these until 2028.
[20:20]
So I'll let you you can read through the
[20:22]
mission statement, the vision
[20:23]
statements. Um but let's jump right into
[20:26]
the objectives.
[20:30]
Uh so the strategic plan for fiscal year
[20:34]
25 through 2028. So our vision statement
[20:37]
one is the to and this is on page two
[20:39]
says the Twilla City Public Library
[20:41]
provides the community with fair and
[20:42]
equal access to vital information
[20:44]
resources. And so we have three
[20:45]
objectives to help meet that vision. So
[20:48]
objective 1.1 is attend regular outreach
[20:51]
events to grow the number of active
[20:52]
registered card holders to over 15,000.
[20:55]
So I will say that this this first
[20:58]
objective is a little optimistic. Uh
[21:00]
when I made it and or when I first
[21:03]
proposed this all the way back at the
[21:04]
end of 2024
[21:06]
um beginning of 2025
[21:08]
um we had about 12,000 card holders.
[21:11]
However, when we made the switch to Koha
[21:14]
um this time last year, we also did a
[21:16]
very deep cleanup of our card holders
[21:19]
and I found out that our real number is
[21:21]
actually about 10,000. We had a lot of
[21:23]
people I think co co threw a huge wrench
[21:26]
in things. Like if you look at our card
[21:28]
holder numbers precoid, postco were
[21:31]
still not quite hitting it, but I am
[21:33]
confident that the card holder numbers
[21:35]
that we have now are bulletproof
[21:37]
accurate.
[21:37]
>> Accurate. Um because I was finding out
[21:39]
that under the old system, we had quite
[21:41]
a lot of people that it said they were
[21:44]
active when they were 100% not active.
[21:47]
So that was one of the reasons we
[21:49]
switched to the new system because it
[21:50]
actually keeps better track of that kind
[21:52]
of thing. So we currently only have
[21:53]
about 10,000 and it is pretty ambitious
[21:55]
to grow by 50% in 2 and 1/2 years. But
[21:59]
that is one of my big goals is I would
[22:00]
like to eventually get to 15,000 active
[22:03]
card holders. And this counts. This
[22:05]
counts everybody. Residents,
[22:06]
non-residents, and juveniles. So even if
[22:09]
you get your kids a card, that does
[22:10]
count towards this number.
[22:13]
>> Tilla County is the fastest growing
[22:15]
county in the state. So that's very
[22:17]
doable.
[22:17]
>> A big push for get your kids card.
[22:19]
>> Well, the summer reading, I would guess,
[22:21]
brings
[22:22]
>> It does. And then and then once we move
[22:24]
to the online cards, I'm hoping that'll
[22:26]
be a huge barrier that will be gone and
[22:29]
then we can
[22:29]
>> Is this the only tool in the county that
[22:31]
can get a card? So, anybody in Utah can
[22:33]
get a card. We actually changed that
[22:35]
this last year that anybody in Utah can
[22:37]
get a card, but you only get it for free
[22:39]
if you're in Twilla City. So,
[22:42]
um, and then build and upgrade the
[22:44]
library physical and digital collection
[22:46]
to achieve annual circulation of over
[22:47]
350,000 total items by the end of fiscal
[22:50]
year 2028.
[22:52]
Um, so we are well on track for this
[22:54]
one. We had 275,000 checkouts the last
[22:58]
year. So, we're up up. I think that was
[23:00]
up.
[23:01]
>> Was it 10%? I don't have it in front of
[23:03]
me, but it was about 10% up. And
[23:05]
especially Libby is just growing like
[23:08]
crazy. So, and I've made a concerted
[23:10]
effort to dedicate a lot more of my
[23:12]
budget to Libby without neglecting our
[23:15]
physical collection. Um, including
[23:18]
taking some of the savings from
[23:19]
switching our catalog system and being
[23:22]
able to buy more books and buy more
[23:24]
audio books and ebooks. So, and I know
[23:27]
that there's things might be also
[23:29]
improving on that front because Libbyy's
[23:31]
made some changes. It used to be that
[23:33]
you could choose like suspend your hold
[23:34]
or deliver later, but now they've just
[23:36]
made it suspend holds and it'll
[23:38]
automatically remove the holds after a
[23:40]
year if you suspend your hold for a year
[23:42]
cuz I think that was also causing a lot
[23:44]
of issues of people using the holds as a
[23:46]
TBR list rather than like genuinely
[23:48]
putting it on hold.
[23:50]
>> So, you could keep doing your reading
[23:52]
list.
[23:53]
>> Yes. So you could keep doing deliver
[23:56]
>> and so keep in line.
[23:58]
>> Now they just switch to suspend
[24:00]
immediately.
[24:01]
>> Yeah. So we're I'm hopeful that change
[24:02]
will help speed up wait times for people
[24:05]
so they're not having to wait as long
[24:07]
and increase our checkouts. So um and
[24:10]
then the library will have over 175,000
[24:12]
annual visits by the end of 2028. Um so
[24:15]
we had 150,000. So we're also well on
[24:19]
track for this one. And I got some
[24:22]
interesting data from John Perez. He was
[24:25]
able to look up using the the cell phone
[24:27]
tracker thing because that that he's
[24:30]
used with working to figure out how many
[24:32]
people attend like the Founders Point,
[24:33]
Hobby Lobby, things like that.
[24:36]
>> And he was able to verify some data for
[24:38]
us of how many cell phone users come and
[24:41]
then compared us to the pool. And we
[24:42]
actually have a slightly more people
[24:44]
come to the library than go to the than
[24:46]
go to the city.
[24:46]
>> I would rather come to the library than
[24:48]
that pool. No. So,
[24:50]
>> so, um, so we're well on track there.
[24:54]
So, um, any questions, comments?
[24:58]
>> Think they're fine for now? We'll we'll
[24:59]
discuss them more, but any
[25:01]
>> Well, I think all that I mean, the
[25:03]
summer reading, like all of that will
[25:05]
help.
[25:06]
>> Oh, yeah.
[25:07]
>> Yeah.
[25:07]
>> Yep. So, that's why we push summer
[25:08]
reading so hard because it gets there.
[25:11]
Um, vision statement two, materials,
[25:13]
programs, and technology offered by the
[25:14]
library will adapt to a rapidly growing
[25:16]
community, and we want to have the
[25:17]
summer reading minutes exceed 4 million
[25:19]
minutes read by the end of 2028. So,
[25:22]
what you were just referring to,
[25:23]
>> and I think we had um just over 3
[25:26]
million this last, so we're well on
[25:28]
track. And it's been and it started at
[25:30]
like 2.3 million my first year, and it
[25:32]
just keeps climbing. So, I'm I'm I'm I'm
[25:35]
optimistic that we
[25:36]
>> are you planning on doing the after
[25:38]
hours book club like going to try to
[25:41]
keep doing it like the last Friday? Is
[25:44]
that the consistency right there?
[25:45]
>> It It tends to be Yes.
[25:47]
>> doing this year.
[25:49]
>> Yeah. Just over a year.
[25:50]
>> Oh, it's already been going a year. How
[25:53]
>> doing it?
[25:54]
>> It's fine. Come.
[25:57]
So, um, so implement maintain a
[26:00]
quarterly newsletter for the library
[26:01]
starting in Q1 of 2025. So, I will admit
[26:04]
this is one that I think I was also a
[26:06]
little optimistic about. Um,
[26:09]
because we have the 90 North Main
[26:11]
newsletter that we already put in all
[26:13]
our information and then we have the
[26:15]
summer reading program that
[26:17]
>> that we put out.
[26:19]
>> I kind of I I don't know really what to
[26:21]
say aside from like check out the 90
[26:23]
North Main like there's all our stuff.
[26:25]
So if we were a bigger library maybe
[26:29]
>> I don't know that everybody reads the 90
[26:31]
North I read it cuz it's full of
[26:33]
information but
[26:35]
>> others don't.
[26:36]
>> Were you Were you planning to like
[26:38]
publish it online or have copies here?
[26:41]
>> So I did so I I did I did do one I had
[26:43]
copies here at the library and then I
[26:45]
also sent it out to everybody who's um
[26:48]
got a card. When you get a card, you can
[26:50]
mark if you okay to receive emails from
[26:52]
the city that it also went out that way.
[26:55]
>> Okay.
[26:55]
>> So,
[26:56]
>> because the library used to have a
[26:59]
monthly newsletter.
[27:00]
>> Oh, okay.
[27:01]
>> And you just picked it up here.
[27:03]
>> Yeah. So, I guess and that is maybe
[27:05]
something I I can work on doing better
[27:07]
is to actually give it a real try cuz
[27:10]
>> is it something that you personally are
[27:12]
doing it?
[27:13]
>> I I did but and I it would be something
[27:15]
that I would do. So, it's it's something
[27:18]
I could I need to step up to possibly to
[27:21]
try again. And
[27:21]
>> cuz I came in to get help with a
[27:23]
newsletter.
[27:24]
>> Oh.
[27:24]
>> And the lady here was helping telling me
[27:27]
about it. And she's like, "The hardest
[27:28]
part is getting people to get your stuff
[27:31]
turned in on time so that you can put it
[27:33]
in a newsletter.
[27:34]
>> Maybe you already know that, but
[27:36]
>> No. Yeah, that's true. um the city
[27:39]
recorder or the the mayor's office that
[27:41]
does the night north main it's always
[27:42]
okay guys give me all your stuff like
[27:45]
now so I can give my newsletter
[27:47]
>> yes
[27:48]
>> so all right and then objective 2.3
[27:51]
continue to be a good steward of the
[27:52]
library's financial resources and ensure
[27:54]
a high quality patron experience by
[27:56]
implementing a new catalog for patrons
[27:57]
by the end of fiscal year 2025 so that
[28:00]
has been completed we do have the new
[28:03]
system the Aspen discovery in the coher
[28:06]
online catalog
[28:08]
all digital purchase requests. You renew
[28:10]
your can renew your books online. I
[28:12]
think it looks a lot more modern and
[28:14]
sleek. Um, and then also we'll be able
[28:16]
to do the online payments and renew
[28:18]
cards online by the end of the year.
[28:20]
>> And have you gotten any patron
[28:22]
complaints on it or not?
[28:24]
>> No, I've all I've heard is good things
[28:27]
like to up your numbers. I mean, people
[28:30]
out in the outliers, if they could just
[28:32]
use Libby, you know, like if you're in
[28:35]
South Room or Vernon or clear out there,
[28:39]
I'd be like this could be Yeah.
[28:42]
>> No, for sure.
[28:42]
>> For the whole year, that's way cheaper
[28:44]
than doing Audible each month. So that
[28:46]
that's the plan is that once we have it
[28:49]
fully set up
[28:50]
>> hard on the
[28:51]
>> is I'll send out a mailer to to those
[28:53]
places and then also see about even like
[28:55]
attending like if they have any town
[28:57]
events or things like community events
[28:59]
to go out there.
[29:00]
>> They also I mean they have city
[29:04]
>> planning you know like meetings and
[29:07]
public that's the goal. So I I I'll go
[29:11]
me and the staff member will go and
[29:12]
visit them.
[29:14]
>> But yeah, I would be a
[29:18]
>> hopefully this year by the end of this
[29:19]
year that I I'll report on some of
[29:21]
those. So
[29:23]
>> um yes, our amazing team of librarians
[29:26]
and programmers will give outstanding
[29:27]
service to the community in a pleasant
[29:28]
and welcoming environment. And all staff
[29:31]
will continue to have the regular
[29:32]
self-directed training incorporated in
[29:33]
their schedules. We continue with that staff have have time in their
[29:37]
schedule to be able to improve
[29:39]
themselves, attend workshops, trainings,
[29:43]
etc. And then all library policies will
[29:45]
be regularly reviewed and updated as
[29:47]
needed to ensure the library is a safe,
[29:48]
welcoming, and pleasant place for
[29:49]
patrons to visit. So, I'd like thank you
[29:51]
all for for that part of it of okay,
[29:54]
here's a random new policy about privacy
[29:56]
and faxing and so thank you for for
[29:58]
helping me stay on top of that. if you
[29:59]
notice anything and like Julie's
[30:01]
obviously you've made several
[30:02]
suggestions and stuff and those have
[30:04]
been very helpful.
[30:06]
Um all and then upgrade improve the
[30:09]
library by enhancing the beauty and over
[30:10]
overall long-term sustainability of the
[30:12]
library. So that's one of my one of my
[30:14]
big focuses. Um for example, I want to clean up our monuments that we have
[30:19]
like the pioneer monument here and the
[30:21]
mudwall monument. That's something that
[30:23]
I'm looking at doing. Um the library is
[30:26]
25 years old, right? 26 this year.
[30:29]
>> Um I want to set it up to ensure that
[30:31]
it's still here for another 30, 40, 50
[30:34]
years and that um we're being
[30:37]
sustainable, right? That we're saving on
[30:39]
water and and I'm doing my my part to
[30:42]
ensure that the library is beautiful and
[30:45]
sustainable.
[30:47]
Any questions or concerns on that? And
[30:49]
then it just goes through all of our
[30:50]
statistics
[30:52]
um that we had from the year before.
[30:57]
Okay, next is our technology plan. And
[31:00]
I'm happy to report that we're I went
[31:02]
over this with my IT guy and we are
[31:05]
ahead of schedule on this. Nice.
[31:08]
>> So, if we jump over to our um
[31:12]
our goals and timelines, so the end of
[31:14]
page two. So, our fiscal year 2025
[31:17]
goals. So, our UPS battery backups,
[31:20]
those have been all replaced. We got a
[31:22]
new reservation station and we did
[31:25]
utilize the UEEN ARPA grant to extend
[31:27]
Wi-Fi coverage and improve quality of
[31:29]
signal. Um that has also been completed.
[31:32]
Unfortunately, it looks like it's now
[31:35]
going away. So, we'll see cuz UEN is has
[31:39]
gets a lot of federal funding and
[31:41]
obviously this last year was a little
[31:43]
tricky for that. I also think 40 $40
[31:46]
trillion of debt, right? I think math
[31:48]
eventually will say that that money is
[31:50]
going to go away. Um, so that it does
[31:52]
look like because what we were using
[31:53]
this for is it was providing Wi-Fi at
[31:56]
the Veterans Memorial Park, the Del Papa
[31:58]
Park, and then the pool park. Um, but it
[32:00]
does look like that that funding is
[32:02]
winding down. It's not gone, but it's
[32:05]
probably going to be gone. So, if you're
[32:08]
no longer able to use the Wi-Fi at those
[32:09]
parks, that is why. Um, but we we did
[32:12]
upgrade it, but then as of about four or
[32:15]
five months ago, we got the email from
[32:17]
UEEN that, hey, this is probably winding
[32:20]
down. So, still technically there, but
[32:22]
probably it's going away. And then we
[32:25]
got new credit card terminals in the
[32:27]
library. So, all those fiscal year 2025
[32:29]
goals were completed. Um, and then our
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fiscal year 2026 goals. So, the
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microphone reader, we got a new
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microphone reader. Um, taking out that
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old thing to the dump was that was me
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and me and Steve had to dedicate some
[32:43]
time in a nice cart to wheel it out to
[32:45]
the dumpster cuz that thing was massive.
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The new one is much more economically
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designed. ergonomically designed and
[32:51]
everything. And then our RFID sec RFID
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security gates will be evaluated for
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replacement. Um, so we did evaluate
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those and they're working just fine. So
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we're probably not going to be replacing
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those anytime soon. Um, what we are
[33:04]
going to be doing is we're working on
[33:06]
upgrading our server and patching up our
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firewall. So that's where the money we
[33:11]
had allocated for that is instead going
[33:13]
to that. And then what we still need to
[33:15]
work on this year is we are going to
[33:16]
upgrade work on upgrading the Wi-Fi here
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at the library itself. So that is still
[33:23]
being worked on and we hope to complete
[33:24]
this year.
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Um and then the for 27 replace the RFID
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staff stations. So we do not need to
[33:31]
replace those. We had those evaluated
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and as long as they work they work. So
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and then but I do have money that if
[33:37]
they were suddenly break that we could
[33:38]
immediately get them replaced. And then
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the server that hosts the printing,
[33:42]
Wi-Fi controller, and phone system. So,
[33:44]
we've already completed actually the the
[33:46]
phone system one was upgraded. And then
[33:49]
the printing and Wi-Fi one. We're
[33:50]
actively looking at that this year cuz
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we we have enough money that we can get
[33:54]
it done this year instead of having to
[33:55]
wait till next year. And then same thing
[33:58]
with the visitor counter and the barcode
[34:00]
scanners. We actually already replaced
[34:01]
the barcode scanners and the staff love
[34:03]
the new barcode scanners. It made our
[34:05]
inventory process in November. We
[34:07]
actually got done several hours earlier.
[34:10]
Oh wow.
[34:10]
>> So it turns out when you save a second
[34:13]
on hundreds on on on tons of book
[34:16]
hundreds thousand books or sorry on
[34:18]
60,000 books that's a fast. So
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>> um
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and then we are working already on
[34:26]
updating the patron computer lab. We've
[34:28]
gotten a jump start on that. We've
[34:30]
replaced a couple machines and we're
[34:32]
upgrading our software that we use to do
[34:35]
for printing and for reservations. all
[34:37]
those upgrades. We're actually getting
[34:38]
those this year. We thought that was
[34:40]
going to be something in the future, but
[34:42]
um we're able to get it done this year.
[34:44]
So, any questions on technology or
[34:47]
concerns or questions or
[34:52]
Okay.
[34:54]
All right.
[34:56]
>> Sounds like you have to come up with
[34:58]
more goals.
[34:59]
>> Yeah. Overachiever.
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>> I'm sure we can find something to spend
[35:03]
money on. It's It's never a never a
[35:06]
problem there.
[35:09]
» Okay. Um, has everybody had a chance to
[35:12]
read the minutes from last month or from
[35:14]
September? I guess
[35:19]
» I think the only thing is
[35:22]
Malcolm is in.
[35:25]
>> Yes.
[35:25]
>> Oh,
[35:26]
>> or it's Walden is
[35:27]
>> or Walden sorry that I Yeah. Caught that
[35:30]
as I started. Just know.
[35:32]
>> Okay. So, do you want a motion?
[35:34]
>> Yeah. Motion.
[35:36]
>> Can I uh
[35:37]
>> I'll fix it and Yeah. So, I'll take care
[35:39]
of that. I'll submit it to the
[35:41]
>> for the records. Okay. I like it.
[35:43]
>> I'd like to make a motion to approve the
[35:46]
minutes from September 18th, 2025
[35:49]
to include
[35:51]
the
[35:53]
Malcolm's last name spelled correctly.
[35:56]
>> Oh, his first name, too.
[35:58]
>> I would
[36:01]
know it through correctly.
[36:05]
>> Yes, I really
[36:08]
crazy this day.
[36:09]
>> I had to order him a new one of these
[36:11]
when he first started cuz I misspelled
[36:13]
it on the plaque. So
[36:14]
>> maybe that's why.
[36:16]
>> No, this is the correct spell.
[36:18]
>> Yeah.
[36:19]
>> Okay.
[36:21]
>> Do we need a second?
[36:22]
>> Second.
[36:23]
>> I have a second.
[36:26]
>> Okay. Approve those then. And then
[36:29]
>> do we have to now we have to vote?
[36:30]
>> Oh, vote. Any discussion?
[36:32]
>> Any discussion?
[36:34]
All in favor?
[36:36]
>> I I
[36:38]
>> Any opposed?
[36:42]
» Yes.
[36:43]
>> Okay.
[36:44]
And then for our next
[36:48]
>> our next meeting date.
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» So we're meeting quarterly. So how we
[37:03]
did it um if I remember correctly last
[37:06]
year I think we did April and then May
[37:08]
or no no we I think did we do May? I
[37:11]
think yeah we did we did May.
[37:15]
So does anyone have any particular
[37:18]
thoughts if it would be April make more
[37:20]
sense or
[37:21]
>> anybody have graduates? We homeschool so
[37:25]
I don't like May's just crazy for end of
[37:28]
school stuff but
[37:28]
>> yeah that's would it be would it be how
[37:31]
better to do u May 23rd I mean April
[37:34]
23rd?
[37:38]
» Sure.
[37:40]
Any reason to not do April 23rd?
[37:49]
» Then
[37:51]
>> do we want to set the rest of Yeah.
[37:54]
>> Okay.
[37:55]
>> Set the rest of the year.
[37:56]
>> So April 23rd at 700 p.m.
[37:59]
>> June, July, August,
[38:00]
>> and then
[38:05]
» July July is obviously the easiest
[38:06]
schedule, right? Well, so technically
[38:09]
it's quarterly. So if April cuz it's
[38:12]
April, May, June, and then July, August,
[38:14]
September. So how we've done it before
[38:15]
is we do September then October. So we
[38:18]
don't have to where we can avoid the
[38:20]
holidays.
[38:20]
>> Okay.
[38:21]
>> Is that what do we want to do that
[38:22]
again? So September and then October.
[38:25]
>> Yep.
[38:28]
>> And we're going third or fourth?
[38:30]
>> The third.
[38:31]
>> Third.
[38:35]
So September 17th 23rd the fourth
[38:40]
Thursday I think.
[38:41]
>> Yeah, that's what I was like. Wait,
[38:42]
>> wait, it is. Wait,
[38:45]
>> it is.
[38:46]
>> Mhm.
[38:48]
>> I just can't read a calendar.
[38:52]
>> Oh, that's Yeah, that's what threw me
[38:53]
off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, you're
[38:55]
correct. I need
[38:56]
>> So I need to read a book.
[38:57]
>> Either way, just a heads up. Read a book
[39:00]
about calendars. So the 16th doesn't
[39:02]
work for me. I will be Well,
[39:07]
>> no, I'll be in Provo.
[39:09]
>> We can make the 23rd.
[39:11]
>> So I just like we're really strict on
[39:14]
that.
[39:14]
>> Yeah. No, I think we can be
[39:17]
like
[39:18]
>> third or fourthish.
[39:20]
>> Yeah.
[39:21]
>> Okay. So September 17th. What's that?
[39:25]
Any reason not to do September 17th?
[39:28]
Mm-m.
[39:31]
>> Okay. And then
[39:33]
October
[39:34]
>> 15th.
[39:36]
>> 22nd. Oh, no. Yeah. 15.
[39:38]
>> That'll be fall. Let's look at the
[39:40]
calendar. 15th is fall.
[39:42]
>> Yeah.
[39:43]
>> I might not be.
[39:44]
>> Yeah. So, what about the 22nd then?
[39:46]
>> I will be in Idaho.
[39:48]
>> Okay.
[39:50]
>> Do we still like Thursdays?
[39:54]
» I think does it say
[39:56]
>> Oh, do we have to do Thursdays? I would
[39:57]
have to check city code on that one. Do
[40:00]
we want to hold off on scheduling
[40:01]
October then? And
[40:03]
>> or if we need
[40:04]
>> or I can just be excused.
[40:06]
>> Yeah,
[40:07]
>> it's my fall craft retreat with my
[40:11]
>> Let's have it there.
[40:12]
>> I know you should. It is so much fun.
[40:15]
>> Can we meet in Idaho?
[40:16]
>> Yeah, we can meet in Pocutello.
[40:19]
>> You can always call in.
[40:20]
>> Uh yeah, I'll call in.
[40:21]
>> Yeah. Okay. So, and then October 22nd or
[40:25]
no 15th. No, we said so. Sorry. Yes. 20
[40:28]
seconds. 20 seconds.
[40:30]
>> I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
[40:31]
>> Somebody get him a calendar.
[40:34]
>> He wasn't prepared to do this.
[40:37]
>> I know. But all of us are like, "Put it
[40:39]
on the calendar or it might not." The
[40:41]
longer we wait, the more we can sit
[40:44]
around.
[40:45]
>> Over scheduled we will be.
[40:47]
>> Yes.
[40:48]
>> Save all these dates, guys.
[40:50]
>> I'm saving them.
[40:51]
>> Save the date.
[40:52]
>> Okay. And then I can call in
[40:56]
Okay.
[40:57]
>> Okay. So, I guess motion to
[41:00]
>> Yeah. You get a motion to adjurnn.
[41:02]
>> Well, we to approve those to
[41:03]
>> approve the dates. Do we have to Okay.
[41:04]
>> Yeah. So, do you want to approve all the
[41:07]
>> Awesome. I'm learning.
[41:09]
>> Okay. Can I get a motion to approve the
[41:11]
meeting dates for
[41:12]
>> and then and then read them out loud?
[41:13]
>> Um for April 23rd, 2026, September 17th,
[41:17]
2026, and October, my pen ran out. 22nd,
[41:21]
2026.
[41:22]
>> 22nd.
[41:24]
Like I didn't write it down because I
[41:25]
read it.
[41:26]
>> All
[41:27]
>> second.
[41:29]
>> All in favor?
[41:30]
>> I.
[41:32]
>> Any opposed?
[41:34]
>> Okay. Yeah. Motion to
[41:37]
>> I make a motion to adjurnn.
[41:40]
>> Colani's ready. Colani's ready.
[41:42]
>> We second that one.
[41:43]
>> Yeah. And second.
[41:45]
>> I go to too many meetings. I
[41:49]
have a good night.
[41:50]
>> Thank you. This is the shortest main I
[41:52]
paddle.