[0:00] a few times. My daughter lives in Candy

[0:01] so

[0:10] my goal keeps

[0:14] driving down

[0:16] this

[1:52] » [cough and clears throat]

[1:52] [snorts]

[3:45] » Good. How are you? Don't

[4:50] I just wanted to see what was on the

[4:51] agenda.

[4:53] I could look at the phone I got.

[4:56] It looks like we just got one. Good to

[4:58] show you.

[5:07] » [snorts]

[5:58] » All right, Andrew ready to go.

[6:01] [cough and clears throat]

[6:15] There we go. Ready to rock. All right.

[6:17] We'll go ahead and call this TWA City

[6:19] Planning Commission meeting to order

[6:20] this Wednesday, April 8th, 2026 at the

[6:24] hour of 7 p.m. here in City Council

[6:25] Chambers. And number one on our agenda

[6:28] tonight is our pledge of allegiance. If

[6:29] you'll please rise and remove your hats.

[6:33] I pledge algiance to the flag of the

[6:36] United States of America and to the

[6:39] republic for which it stands. One nation

[6:42] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[6:45] justice for all.

[6:53] Just a disclaimer for everybody tonight.

[6:55] There is a significant increase in

[6:57] fraudulent fishing requests using

[6:58] information from the public notices that

[7:00] are use issued concerning the

[7:02] applications being heard during our

[7:04] planning commission meetings here at

[7:06] Twilla City. Twilla City collects fees

[7:08] only at the time of application submitt

[7:11] city will never ask for funds to be sent

[7:13] over wire transfers. Uh legitimate

[7:15] Twilla City emails always end with

[7:17] twillis.gov.

[7:19] Remember there's always misspellings in

[7:20] these fishing emails, so look out for

[7:22] those. If you receive a request

[7:24] requiring you to pay an additional fees

[7:26] for an application in an email that does

[7:28] not end in twill city.gov, this will be

[7:30] after your application has been

[7:32] submitted. This is potentially fraud. Uh

[7:35] if you receive such a request, please

[7:37] contact Twilla City Community

[7:38] Development uh department immediately.

[7:40] And always if you have questions, Andrew

[7:42] and um and are there to help you. So

[7:46] please call them with any questions you

[7:48] have before giving out any money. All

[7:50] right. Number two on our agenda tonight

[7:52] is our roll call. Commissioner Hammer

[7:54] >> here.

[7:54] >> Commissioner Lynford

[7:55] >> here.

[7:56] >> Commissioner Proer

[7:57] >> here.

[7:57] >> Commissioner Cordova here.

[7:58] >> Commissioner Jensen

[7:59] >> here.

[8:00] >> Commissioner Anderson here. And

[8:01] Commissioner Faircloth

[8:02] >> here.

[8:02] >> Let's please excuse Commissioner Sloan,

[8:04] Council Members Gosset and Hansen.

[8:07] Please welcome Councilman McCall joining

[8:09] us tonight. And we got staff members

[8:11] Miss Young, Miss England, Mr. Agard, and

[8:14] Mr. Johnson in the room tonight. Uh

[8:16] brings us on to number three on our

[8:18] agenda is a public hearing and a

[8:20] decision from Steve Muros in behalf of

[8:22] Suzanne Jameson, property owner to

[8:25] authorize the use of automobile service

[8:27] and repair to occur at the property

[8:29] located at 397 North Main Street in the

[8:31] general commercial GC zoning district on

[8:35] 26 acres.

[8:38] Miss

[8:41] >> Yes. So, um we did do uh go through a

[8:45] conditional use approval uh like last

[8:48] month for a car rental uh of

[8:53] or car dealership here. And um they are

[8:57] the property owners, but they have

[8:59] decided to go ahead and lease this

[9:02] property to an automotive auto

[9:05] automotive repair and service um

[9:08] business instead. Um and so we do have

[9:12] to go through the conditional use

[9:13] process again because it is not the use

[9:16] we did approve um with the dealership.

[9:21] Um so as you can see this is in the

[9:24] general commercial zoning district

[9:27] uh and all surrounding uh properties are

[9:32] zoned GC but there are some

[9:34] non-conforming residential uses that are

[9:37] adjacent to this property as well.

[9:41] Um,

[9:44] again, the proposed business hours are

[9:47] Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 6:00

[9:49] p.m. and Saturday 8 to 3:00 p.m. Um, and

[9:54] the reason why I bring that up is

[9:56] because automotive services are going to

[9:59] be a little bit louder than a car

[10:01] dealership because there's going to be

[10:03] constant

[10:04] um noise from um cars being repaired and

[10:09] tools being used and that type of thing

[10:12] there. And so,

[10:15] uh, one of the things that we are

[10:17] recommending is that we put, um, a limit

[10:22] on the time frame as far as them using

[10:25] the louder, um, tools and that type of

[10:28] thing with the card, uh, auto repair

[10:30] shop. And so, um, that is one condition

[10:35] of approval that we, uh, that the staff

[10:38] is recommending. And then this is also

[10:42] again the auto repair shop. We've got um

[10:49] Okay, we've got the um

[10:53] site where they're going to be storing

[10:56] the um vehicles that are getting ready

[10:59] to be repaired on uh the west side of

[11:03] the building. Um, it is currently there

[11:07] is a like a rod iron fence across the

[11:10] front of it and I'll get to that and

[11:12] show that to you a little bit later. Um,

[11:15] this is also the front side or the main

[11:18] street side of the building. There is um

[11:23] parking that is available there. There's

[11:25] a handicap stall along with [gasps]

[11:28] a couple additional um off- streetet

[11:31] parking spaces. On the original

[11:33] approval, we did uh put in the condition

[11:37] that uh there's no on street parking for

[11:41] their customers and I was just going to

[11:43] carry through with that or carry that on

[11:45] to this condition of approval as well.

[11:48] Um

[11:49] this is an aerial view of all of it. Um

[11:57] and then again on the prior approval we

[12:00] did uh say that or put on the condition

[12:04] to help reduce any issues with lighting

[12:07] that all any new lighting that is

[12:10] installed does need to be completely

[12:13] covered and shining downward and onto

[12:16] the property. So that was another

[12:18] condition of approval with this again

[12:20] that was carried over. Um

[12:22] [clears throat]

[12:25] and then this is going to be site

[12:27] fencing. Um

[12:31] I did get the opportunity to go in and

[12:34] take a couple of um

[12:38] pictures here. the first one. This is

[12:40] the one that is across the street from

[12:44] the um automotive repair shop and it's

[12:48] just showing the fence that is there

[12:50] right now. That's the rot iron fencing.

[12:52] And then this is um the fencing that is

[12:56] facing westward. And so um that is not

[13:02] an a a solid fence just so you guys are

[13:06] aware. And then there is also um some

[13:09] fencing towards the west and then um

[13:13] south portion of the property that does

[13:16] have solid fencing. There is also

[13:19] fencing or this is from inside the the

[13:24] um

[13:25] parking area looking on 400 north and um

[13:31] that's just showing you the view of the

[13:33] rod iron fencing as well. This is a view

[13:37] of the

[13:40] backside of the property showing the um

[13:44] [snorts] type of fencing. It's not

[13:46] really quite fencing. Again, it's not um

[13:50] it's not really a permanent fencing.

[13:52] It's more like a I don't know, like a

[13:54] chicken wire type of thing, a fence. And

[13:57] then this is also a better closeup. And

[14:01] this is right next to the auto repair

[14:03] shop.

[14:05] And so one of the things that we are

[14:08] recommending or staff is recommending is

[14:10] that they put a solid fence in the areas

[14:14] that um do not have one. So that is the

[14:19] other condition of approval. [snorts] So

[14:22] recommended uh motion is to approve the

[14:26] conditional use with the conditions of

[14:29] approval that I discussed. So, if

[14:32] there's any questions, please let me

[14:34] know.

[14:36] >> Perfect. Let's bring this back to the

[14:37] commission for questions or comments.

[14:40] >> Yes, Commissioner Lford. When you're

[14:42] saying to put more permanent fencing in,

[14:44] is that to replace the chicken wire that

[14:46] is pre-existing or just in certain areas

[14:48] where the fencing is lacking? Um well

[14:52] the certain areas which is the chicken

[14:54] wire where the fencing is l lacking

[14:57] because our ordinance does say that um

[15:02] there should be I'm sorry let me look

[15:04] this up again. Um, our ordinance does

[15:08] require fencing and buffer against

[15:12] properties that are commercial that are

[15:14] against residential zones, but it

[15:17] doesn't really um cover if it's all in

[15:20] the general commercial zone and it's up

[15:22] against residential uses. But since this

[15:25] is a condition a conditional use, that

[15:28] could be something that we would need to

[15:30] do to mitigate any kind of issues that

[15:33] would arise with the commercial being

[15:36] next to residential.

[15:38] So,

[15:39] >> and does staff find the the iron fencing

[15:41] that they've put in recently sufficient

[15:43] to meet that requirement as well?

[15:46] >> I feel they carried that forward. So the

[15:48] um the thing with that is that it's so

[15:51] close to the street, it would be better

[15:54] for it to have some visibility. And I

[15:57] think that the rod of iron fence where

[15:59] that is located right now does make

[16:01] sense

[16:04] » around the rest of the property. It

[16:05] needs to be sight obscuring, right? Um,

[16:09] that's really up to yours. My you guys,

[16:12] but my recommendation is that we do put

[16:14] the side obscuring fencing there in the

[16:17] areas that don't have it.

[16:19] >> Perfect.

[16:24] » Any other questions, concerns, comments

[16:26] from the commission?

[16:28] >> Chairman, I have a comment.

[16:30] >> I have a concern actually with the

[16:32] parking. We did talk about customers um

[16:35] not parking on the street. Mhm.

[16:37] >> Um but with this being an automobile um

[16:41] auto service and repair, there will be a

[16:45] lot of cars probably.

[16:47] What should we think about including no

[16:50] employee parking off on streets? Also,

[16:55] I've seen some of these um service

[16:57] repair places be just full of cars that

[17:01] I'm concerned that there won't be places

[17:03] for their employees to park. So, I did

[17:06] speak with the applicant about that and

[17:09] he did he did say that um there is like

[17:13] a time limit on how long the cars that

[17:17] are waiting to be repaired can be on

[17:20] site. So, um I can let him go into

[17:24] details. I believe he is here right now

[17:27] on how he is planning on doing that. Um,

[17:31] I think looking at the lot, it looks

[17:34] like there's

[17:36] um there's a bit of room onsite and then

[17:40] really it wouldn't make sense to do off

[17:43] offsite parking. Um, it just would be

[17:47] really dangerous off of 400 North and

[17:49] then um up in front of Main Street. All

[17:53] of that is just approach and you know

[17:56] like drive in and drive out areas.

[18:00] that are right next to the building. It

[18:03] just it wouldn't really be intuitive for

[18:06] people to park on the street there

[18:08] really. So,

[18:10] >> I just know there were concerns with the

[18:11] homeowner nearby that

[18:14] >> um in the previous business that they

[18:16] were parking

[18:17] >> in front of their road. Yeah. Or in

[18:19] front of their house. Yeah. Um, and that

[18:22] is a condition of approval that we did

[18:25] carry over so we can still keep that in

[18:28] place and that was a part of the

[18:30] recommendation as well.

[18:32] >> Thank you.

[18:33] >> Yeah.

[18:35] Just looking at this picture right

[18:36] here, it's a turn lane right there

[18:37] anyway. So there should be no on street

[18:39] parking period.

[18:40] >> Yeah.

[18:43] >> I think to your point though, I think

[18:45] that we should add customer and employee

[18:49] [snorts]

[18:52] It was a concern before.

[18:54] >> Yeah.

[18:55] >> Or problem. Not a concern, but problem.

[18:57] >> No. Good point.

[19:00] >> Yes. Commission.

[19:00] >> The only other concern that I'm going to

[19:03] bring back up is I recall that we had

[19:05] another um [clears throat and cough]

[19:07] conditional use permit for an auto

[19:09] repair facility. And part of that

[19:11] included towing, getting vehicles to the

[19:13] property, and how many vehicles could be

[19:15] on the property. Um, I just bring that

[19:18] up more as a as a comment and a

[19:20] refresher from our previous meetings,

[19:22] but I would withhold any questioning on

[19:24] that until the the owner is up

[19:26] >> for questions and available for those as

[19:28] well.

[19:29] >> So, the applicant has not covered towing

[19:31] any kind of towing details, but he is

[19:33] here to answer those questions. So,

[19:36] >> perfect. Thank you.

[19:39] >> In our previous cup, we actually limited

[19:43] the number of vehicles to 10 on site. So

[19:47] maybe we might want to continue continue

[19:50] that forward with this.

[19:56] Great questions, comments, concerns.

[19:59] Any other ones from the commission?

[20:05] Perfect. We'll let you guys marinate on

[20:07] it a little bit. The way this is going

[20:08] to work is I'm going to open the public

[20:09] hearing, give the public an opportunity

[20:11] to speak, and then when I close the

[20:12] public hearing, I'll invite the

[20:13] applicant up. then you can address

[20:15] whatever questions the public and we

[20:17] have with the best of your knowledge.

[20:19] How about that?

[20:20] >> Perfect. Great. All right. With that

[20:22] being said, we'll go ahead and open the

[20:23] public hearing now and invite the public

[20:25] up to uh please address us with your

[20:27] concerns.

[20:30] When you come up, please state your name

[20:31] for the record and then write your name

[20:33] on the paper for the record as well,

[20:34] please.

[21:00] Oops.

[21:03] Uh, my name is Lorine Mascerinius. I am

[21:06] I own the property west of the the

[21:11] building right there next to the

[21:13] parking. Um

[21:16] many of my questions were already

[21:18] answered with what she has said, but um

[21:22] so so this is going to override the

[21:26] other which we already did the other

[21:30] week. So um

[21:33] does this mean that we're going to have

[21:35] like early morning dumpster pickup and

[21:38] how often uh are they going to put a

[21:40] dumpster in there? Um

[21:44] let's see. Um and my my biggest concern

[21:49] really is um environmentally what does

[21:52] this mean about the waste management?

[21:55] Like are there floor drains that have

[21:57] the that have the required uh that are

[22:02] equipped with the oil grease traps or

[22:04] how is that going to be cleaned up?

[22:05] because I noticed that when they were

[22:06] cleaning out their bay the other day,

[22:08] the water was just being washed out to

[22:10] the road and to the um [snorts] into the

[22:14] gutters, water was coming down through

[22:15] the gutters. So, I'm just curious as to

[22:17] where where is this waste going to go

[22:21] like and is [snorts] it where is it

[22:23] going to be stored while it's waiting to

[22:26] be picked up if they're doing a pickup

[22:28] type

[22:30] thing? Um,

[22:33] and I know that years prior when there

[22:35] was a a building that had um there was a

[22:40] auto repair, we had issues with um with

[22:43] the the oil and stuff not being uh

[22:46] disposed of properly. So, that's like

[22:49] one of my big concerns right there. And

[22:51] then um also I just want to um

[22:56] give a reminder about the American

[22:58] Disabilities Act about the no parking on

[23:00] the sidewalks because I've seen that

[23:02] happen a lot with the businesses. In

[23:04] fact, the other business up on Main

[23:06] Street has I've seen some of their cars

[23:09] parked there. So, but these guys are not

[23:11] going to be displaying cars and stuff.

[23:13] So, um I I know that it has to be

[23:16] whether it be customer or or business

[23:19] cars that they're not to be parked on

[23:22] the driveway. Um I didn't realize how

[23:25] much that affected people until my mom

[23:28] was in a wheelchair and had to wheel her

[23:30] around and had to backtrack so many

[23:32] times just to get around vehicles. So,

[23:34] it's really important that that's noted

[23:37] and make sure that their vehicles are

[23:39] not on the sidewalks. A lot of traffic

[23:41] comes down that sidewalk. So

[23:44] just that's pretty much all I have right

[23:46] now. So

[23:47] >> thanks.

[23:48] >> Thank you, Miss Mr.

[23:49] >> Thank you.

[24:01] [snorts]

[24:06] » [snorts]

[24:21] » Hi, my name is Kip Mner and I live to

[24:24] the [clears throat] north across the

[24:26] street. Here's a picture of some of the

[24:27] vendors. They're on the sidewalk

[24:32] and this is because they had cars in

[24:34] their parking lot in the front. So, you

[24:37] know, number one is nobody can walk on

[24:40] the sidewalk.

[24:42] Uh,

[24:45] I'd like to see it stay at 10 cars

[24:49] and, you know, have it have that limited

[24:52] for the for the lot because

[24:56] if they can't if they don't have room in

[24:57] there to work on cars, so many cars,

[25:01] they're going to have to park them on

[25:02] the streets to get in and out. It's a

[25:05] congested area.

[25:07] Bad.

[25:09] Uh,

[25:11] [clears throat] I'd like to see some

[25:12] privacy stuff on the rod iron fence,

[25:15] too.

[25:17] And they're right across the street. And

[25:19] I don't want to look at like the old

[25:21] mess that used to be there,

[25:24] which was supposed to have a fence

[25:26] before, but they never did do it. That

[25:28] was uh

[25:30] 11 12 years ago. It was Main Street Auto

[25:33] Garage Repair, whatever. It was a mess.

[25:38] Uh

[25:40] guess that's about it. Main concerns the

[25:43] parking and

[25:45] vendors and stuff where they got to get

[25:48] in the lot their lot. They can't do

[25:50] their business in the street. So

[25:56] that's about it I guess. [snorts]

[25:58] >> Thank you. Appreciate that, Mr. Mutter.

[26:13] » [snorts]

[26:14] >> Okay, seeing no one else approach, I'll

[26:16] go ahead and close the public hearing,

[26:18] invite the applicant up to come address

[26:20] the commission, and maybe address some

[26:22] of the questions that we may have for

[26:24] you.

[26:36] I need to sign this, right?

[26:37] >> Yes, please. And then state your name

[26:38] for the record.

[26:50] [snorts]

[26:53] Hey, my name is Steve Morose.

[27:01] And then I guess yeah, if you guys have

[27:03] got some questions for me, I can get

[27:05] those answered and then I can kind of go

[27:06] off of [clears throat] some of the notes

[27:08] that we've taken and stuff.

[27:10] >> Okay, perfect. Bring it to the

[27:11] commission. You got any questions for

[27:12] the applicants?

[27:14] >> Yes, Commissioner Lford.

[27:16] >> So, I'm just going to come back to some

[27:18] of the questions on the public hearing

[27:20] and then go to my own if that's all

[27:22] right. The first one is going to be that

[27:23] waste management. Do you know is the

[27:25] building already equipped to handle

[27:27] waste or do you have a plan in place for

[27:29] I mean if you guys are doing auto

[27:30] repairs, engines, transmissions, and

[27:32] heavier repairs like that. I know that leaks all over the floor. Do you

[27:36] have a a spill plan in place? Do you

[27:38] have drains or is this going to be kind

[27:40] of a repeat of of past situations that

[27:42] the public has brought up where it's

[27:44] going to be leaked out into into the

[27:46] gutters and rainwater and such?

[27:48] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, actually as of the

[27:51] other day, [clears throat] right, like

[27:52] there was no oil, you know, it was just

[27:54] we were washing the floor like the, you

[27:56] know, dust and stuff off the floor so it

[27:57] wasn't getting trapped in the office.

[27:59] But yes, I do, um, you know, they make

[28:01] the, uh, oil absorbent socks, you know,

[28:03] stuff. So, if there is, you know, spill

[28:04] or anything like that, that absorbs

[28:06] them. Um, I mean, every shop that I've

[28:09] ever ran and been at, um, you know, we,

[28:12] uh, we've got bags of floor dry on site,

[28:15] you know, you get all that up. We have a metal dumpster, a metal bin, you know,

[28:20] you put all that stuff in and then

[28:22] dispose of that. Um, I do have a oil

[28:24] company that I'm working with that it's

[28:26] all going to be contained. The waste oil

[28:28] will be contained. Um, the new oil will

[28:30] have a containment system and stuff as

[28:33] well.

[28:34] With the previous limit on the previous

[28:37] uh conditional use permit of 10

[28:39] vehicles, is that going to still be

[28:40] enough space to get those oil trucks in

[28:43] and out and be able to get um which

[28:46] brings me up to my next question. Are

[28:48] you planning on towing vehicles in? Um

[28:50] and if so, do you have a plan on how

[28:52] long those will be on property?

[28:54] >> Yep. Exactly. So, um yes, we

[28:56] [clears throat] will have plenty of uh

[28:58] plenty of space. Um, I asked that I mean

[29:01] 11 spots because if you look at that uh

[29:04] right by the front door, that bay right

[29:06] there. Um, we're not going to be doing

[29:09] too much work out of that bay. So, it'll

[29:12] typically just be my truck that is

[29:14] parked there. U, but I totally

[29:16] understand and agree. Yeah, I mean, with

[29:17] the parking, you're crazy if you're

[29:19] parking out on the street there. I mean,

[29:21] you're asking for problems [snorts] and

[29:23] that's something that me and my staff

[29:24] will have to, you know, mitigate and

[29:26] continue to get cars pulled back and

[29:30] talking with customers of, hey, you

[29:31] know, we can't park there. Definitely

[29:33] mindful of that. I mean, first and

[29:34] foremost is safety is everything to me.

[29:38] So, and that's everywhere I've been.

[29:41] >> And then, are you guys going to be

[29:43] utilizing different tow companies or

[29:44] have your own tow truck on site? No, we

[29:47] would just uh so it's just customers if

[29:49] they need their car towed in, you know,

[29:50] to be towed in. Um that depends, you

[29:53] know, of how the length of time, you

[29:55] know, that'll be there depending on, you

[29:57] know, repairs. But any car that gets

[29:59] towed in, especially if it's overnight

[30:01] or anything, we will get it moved, get

[30:02] it uh moved around to the back lot, you

[30:05] know, is pretty much um how that works.

[30:07] But as to um the point that you were

[30:10] talking about is any cars, so I've got a

[30:12] very strict limit, and this has been at

[30:14] every shop I've ever been at. I don't

[30:16] like clutter and I don't like stuff

[30:18] building up. I am very OCD about that

[30:21] stuff. Um, and so what my thing is on

[30:26] that for any customer and I hang signs

[30:27] up saying it, any car that is left there

[30:30] for, you know, more than, you know, 4

[30:33] days to a week, um, I charge a fee,

[30:36] right, of how long it is there, it's a

[30:38] $50 fee each day that the vehicle is

[30:41] there. And then at that point, I have it

[30:42] towed and impounded. So, I don't have

[30:45] cars because to me that's money that's

[30:47] sitting in my lot that I'm not being

[30:50] able to do anything with it. I can't

[30:52] have it. [clears throat] So, and it's

[30:53] also space that I can't use. So,

[30:56] >> and then with the concern of vendors, I

[30:58] mean, he showed a believe it was a

[31:00] Cornwell truck that was parked up on the

[31:02] sidewalk there and the concerns of ADA

[31:04] and access on that sidewalk. Um, my

[31:07] first question is, will there be ample

[31:10] space for your vendors to be able to

[31:11] pull in if they need to be on property?

[31:14] Or if I just look pulling up the a

[31:18] little bit wider map of the area, looks

[31:20] like there might be some space across

[31:21] the street over by Janna's Java that you

[31:24] could have employees just walk to

[31:26] potentially. That way, we're not

[31:28] creating that ADA concern.

[31:30] >> Yeah. Um, but where ADA law is concerned

[31:34] just to

[31:35] >> prevent that from happening again.

[31:37] >> For sure. So, like this is the stuff

[31:38] that you guys aren't wanting, right?

[31:40] Like their vehicles that are parked on

[31:42] the sidewalk.

[31:43] >> I apologize. That's just a little too

[31:44] far for me to see personally.

[31:47] >> Please. [snorts]

[31:48] >> This is their cars currently. They're

[31:52] parked on the sidewalk and on the

[31:54] street.

[31:55] >> Correct. So, that's that's what we're

[31:56] trying to mitigate. That's what that's

[31:58] what we don't want. And so he the the

[32:01] >> show that

[32:01] >> Yes, I'll show. So I've [clears throat]

[32:03] got two pictures here.

[32:06] >> Correct. That that would be

[32:07] >> so that's kind of what I'm saying.

[32:10] >> I agree with that though. And I don't

[32:12] think those cars should be parked right

[32:13] there either. You know,

[32:15] >> that is a safety constant up and down

[32:18] the sidewalk. [snorts]

[32:20] >> And and I would agree with with

[32:22] emphasizing that concern in general as

[32:25] well. um where the gentleman showed the

[32:27] Cornwall truck blocking the sidewalk

[32:29] right in front of the shop and that

[32:31] being more in your control rather than

[32:33] the residential's control. Y

[32:35] >> um that that's why I make that comment

[32:37] and why

[32:38] >> I I try not to bring up a problem

[32:40] without some kind of solution. And I

[32:42] just noticed that we have that big dirt

[32:44] lot just across and I know

[32:46] [clears throat] it might be a little

[32:47] inconvenient to walk across the street

[32:49] but that might also be a better

[32:50] solution.

[32:52] >> Um just as making sure we're all

[32:54] thinking about and making sure that the

[32:56] public questions are are being concerned

[32:58] uh being brought up and validated as

[33:00] well.

[33:00] >> Yes.

[33:02] >> That that concludes my questions.

[33:04] >> And so for your point, the reason he was

[33:06] parked out there, he pulled up for a few

[33:07] minutes and I actually told him he's

[33:08] like I'm just gonna be here for just a

[33:10] second. And I said, "Okay, well, next

[33:11] time you come in, I didn't have the gate

[33:13] unlocked." When we're there and our

[33:15] operation is going, that gate will be

[33:17] unlocked and open for, you know, those

[33:19] bigger trucks, oil trucks or, you know,

[33:21] the Cornwall truck to be able to pull in

[33:23] through the back stage right there, do

[33:25] whatever they need to do and then go.

[33:27] But as to your point, yes, I was also

[33:29] I've already been, you know, in contact

[33:31] of using some of the parking, you know,

[33:33] over there in staging, you know,

[33:35] especially for employees or anything

[33:37] else.

[33:38] >> Actually, I lied. I do have one more

[33:39] question. Are you planning on tearing

[33:41] down anything outside of the building on

[33:43] property as well, or are we going to

[33:45] limit the the tear downs and such to

[33:47] inside the base?

[33:49] >> Oh, yeah. That will all be inside the

[33:50] base. I don't like working outside. I

[33:53] did that for many.

[33:53] >> Most people don't, but I just want to

[33:55] thinking about the concern about noise

[33:57] as well. I mean, I I can imagine what an

[33:59] impact drill is going to sound like

[34:00] outside right next to someone's house.

[34:02] So, that's why I just want to clarify

[34:04] that as well.

[34:04] >> Yeah, of course, there is going to be

[34:06] times to get a vehicle in. you know, the

[34:08] bay. We're going to have to take some

[34:10] tires off or something like that to be

[34:12] able to move it into the bay. So, yes,

[34:14] there will be some times that I do have

[34:16] to take, but as far as like full tear

[34:19] downs, you know, or uh, you know,

[34:21] lengthy hourly jobs, no, I I do

[34:23] everything inside.

[34:26] >> That's all my questions.

[34:27] >> Thank you, Commissioner Liford.

[34:32] » Any other questions from the commission?

[34:37] So, [clears throat] just to be clear,

[34:40] the gate will be open during hours of

[34:42] operation.

[34:43] >> Yes. Okay.

[34:44] >> Yep.

[34:45] >> I think that has to be I mean that's

[34:46] definitely a rule of mine that's going

[34:47] to have to be because I mean that's also

[34:49] a safety thing. You know, if somebody

[34:50] needs to get back there in a hurry, you

[34:52] have to be able to get through that

[34:54] gate.

[34:57] >> So, that might answer the question about

[34:58] the dumpster pickup. They're not going

[35:00] to be able to get in there without the

[35:01] gate open anyway. So, exactly.

[35:02] >> They're going to have to do it during

[35:03] business hours. And I already talked to

[35:04] the waste management. They're good to

[35:06] work with.

[35:07] >> Yeah, they were super cool about it.

[35:08] They said yes, definitely. You know,

[35:10] they can just come in during business

[35:11] hours.

[35:12] >> Perfect. Good.

[35:14] >> I think that's all the questions I had

[35:15] from the public. Any other questions

[35:18] from the commission?

[35:22] » All right.

[35:24] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Members,

[35:26] >> Mr. Chairman,

[35:28] >> I if I could offer just a little insight

[35:29] on the

[35:31] >> parking on the sidewalk concerns.

[35:34] >> Dwell city already has ordinances that

[35:37] prohibit vehicles from being parked or

[35:39] obstructing the sidewalk, and those are

[35:41] subject to enforcement by the city's

[35:43] police department. So, if that situation

[35:46] does occur, we encourage the public to

[35:48] contact the city and we will have the

[35:50] police department engage that and remove

[35:52] that vehicle from the public rideway.

[35:55] >> Perfect.

[35:56] That's for everybody's everybody's

[35:58] information in here. So,

[36:00] >> and then I just had a couple things as

[36:03] well.

[36:03] >> Absolutely.

[36:04] >> So, I guess uh my one question is the

[36:07] lights on the building um that are are

[36:10] currently up. Um I've been, you know,

[36:13] there late at night, you know, kind of

[36:15] getting everything ready and trying to

[36:17] do as much as I could before this

[36:18] hearing. Um the lighting doesn't seem

[36:21] to, you know, go out, especially towards

[36:23] the house to the west. Um, no, sorry, to

[36:27] the south. Um, and then the lighting to

[36:30] the west. Um, I just need to know like

[36:32] exactly, you know, what we're wanting.

[36:35] Um, because it doesn't seem to, you

[36:37] know, like be super bright over there

[36:39] and stuff. I don't maybe somebody else

[36:41] might have a different opinion. Um, but

[36:43] I've been out. I don't see anything with

[36:46] the existing lights and how it is going

[36:47] right now. And we do not plan on, you

[36:50] know, upgrading the lights, making them

[36:52] brighter or anything else. we are very

[36:54] limited on the stuff that we, you know,

[36:56] can do. Um, so we were just wondering

[36:59] about the lighting situation and if it's

[37:03] okay the way it's is right now and the

[37:06] way it has been for it looks some time.

[37:08] Um, that was my one question I guess or

[37:13] kind of concern. And then the loud

[37:15] noises. Um, again, yeah, we will be, you

[37:18] know, doing as much work as we can

[37:20] inside, you know, the bays and stuff. Um

[37:22] but it wouldn't it's what we're doing

[37:24] isn't going to be any more or less loud,

[37:26] you know, than the the um car lot, you

[37:31] know, that got approved and or the body

[37:33] shop that's just a couple of buildings

[37:35] down. You know, it's it's all right

[37:37] there within, you know, proximity. It's

[37:39] not going to be any more or less loud

[37:42] than what we were going to be doing in

[37:45] general. So,

[37:47] >> perfect. So, with the lighting, Miss

[37:49] England and Miss Agard, I'll have to

[37:50] help you with that as soon as we're done

[37:52] with this. But we're what we're looking

[37:53] for is just lighting that points down

[37:54] rather than out.

[37:55] >> Okay.

[37:56] >> To keep it out of the residents yards

[37:58] and more focused on your yard.

[37:59] >> Yeah. I wouldn't want that either if

[38:01] that was my house.

[38:01] >> Yep.

[38:02] >> So, you'll have to ask them what is

[38:03] there if that's going to be legit

[38:04] enough. Uh they'll have those answers

[38:06] for you.

[38:07] >> Okay.

[38:07] >> That was also applied to new lighting,

[38:11] additional lighting.

[38:12] >> New lighting. Okay. So, lighting is

[38:13] there now.

[38:14] >> Yeah. You don't need

[38:16] >> Okay. Yep. And we have no plans on doing

[38:18] anything with that.

[38:21] And so, and to be clear, the number of

[38:24] vehicles on site would be 10, but 11 if

[38:27] I can, you know, it'd be my personal

[38:30] vehicle that' be parked in front of that

[38:32] one bay door. So, that would be the 11.

[38:34] >> You're just pretty much creating another

[38:35] parking spot for you. So, I don't think

[38:37] it'd be complaining too much.

[38:39] >> Okay.

[38:40] >> Yep.

[38:45] » Perfect. What I like about our job

[38:47] tonight is just to explain to the public

[38:49] when it comes to a conditional use

[38:50] permit, we have to find uh reasons for

[38:53] safety issues to we can mitigate. If we

[38:54] cannot mitigate it, uh then there's a

[38:56] possibility that we deny it. Um but

[38:58] tonight we we've kind of gone through

[39:00] the list and the city's actually gone

[39:01] through and put that in our packet with

[39:02] us. Uh so the issues you guys are

[39:04] talking about tonight are noise of

[39:05] course, uh lighting, it's been

[39:08] addressed,

[39:10] parking on the street and the sidewalk

[39:12] of course has been addressed. uh

[39:14] customers visiting visiting. That's

[39:16] going to take some time to get customers

[39:17] to understand not to park there, but it

[39:19] sounds like they're going to do their

[39:20] due diligence to get that done. Um

[39:22] business hours and minimize the

[39:25] visibility from the uh wrecked yards in

[39:28] the in the yard there or cars in the

[39:31] yard there. So, is there anything else

[39:32] that the commission can think of

[39:34] findings of fact and things we need to

[39:35] mitigate or find issues for? I

[39:37] >> just need to add in that limit on car

[39:41] limit on cars. Okay.

[39:45] That's not in there right now. Perfect.

[39:49] Any other thoughts, questions, opinions?

[39:56] » Great. I'll entertain a motion on this

[39:58] one.

[39:59] >> I'll make a motion.

[40:00] >> Yes, Commissioner Lynford. [snorts] I

[40:02] move to approve the conditional use

[40:04] permit request by Steve Morose to

[40:06] authorize the use of the automotive

[40:09] service and repair to occur at the

[40:10] subject property [snorts] application

[40:13] number 202623

[40:16] based on the findings and subjects to

[40:18] the conditions listed in the staff

[40:20] report dated April 3rd, 2026 with the

[40:23] additional con uh condition of parking

[40:27] no more than 11 vehicles.

[40:30] I'll second.

[40:32] >> Okay. I have a motion to approve the

[40:34] conditional use permit with the

[40:35] condition to park no more than 11

[40:37] vehicles on the property. Uh from

[40:39] Commissioner Lynford and a second from

[40:42] Commissioner Anderson. Is there any

[40:43] discussion before we take this to a

[40:45] vote?

[40:48] » Commissioner Hammer, how do you vote?

[40:50] >> I.

[40:50] >> Commissioner Lynford,

[40:51] >> I.

[40:52] >> Commissioner Proctor,

[40:53] >> I.

[40:53] >> Commissioner Cordova,

[40:54] >> I.

[40:54] >> Commissioner Jensen,

[40:55] >> I.

[40:56] >> Commissioner Anderson,

[40:57] >> I am Chairman Hamilton. I also vote I.

[40:59] That one passes 7 to zero. Uh, next on

[41:02] our agenda tonight is a city council

[41:04] reports.

[41:06] I love how they threw you under the bus

[41:08] there, Councilman.

[41:09] >> Oh, no. That's that's totally totally

[41:12] okay. I'm prepared.

[41:13] >> I'm happy to be here.

[41:16] Um Um, as far as the the council, the

[41:18] last time I was here, which seemed like

[41:20] it was the last meeting once for Ed, now

[41:23] for John. I think they're just playing

[41:25] with me. Um, but I mentioned I mentioned

[41:28] an ordinance that was coming up and uh

[41:31] that was a public hearing and a motion

[41:33] uh on ordinance 2026-08

[41:37] an ordinance of the Twilla City Council

[41:39] amending section 7-4-7

[41:42] of the T of the Tilla City Code

[41:44] regarding parking of operable motorized

[41:48] vehicles

[41:50] in the front and side yards of

[41:53] residential properties in a single

[41:55] family residential zoning district. And

[41:59] um I mentioned it to you the last time

[42:02] and if you didn't know, it did pass.

[42:05] Um and that was one that um

[42:09] it is, as I said before, it's an

[42:12] interesting ordinance. Um um because it

[42:15] is,

[42:18] you guys basically touched on a few

[42:19] minutes ago when you was talking about

[42:21] parking on the street and parking in

[42:23] front of people houses. And if you um go

[42:26] around town, and I I asked you to do

[42:28] that when you're riding around, just

[42:30] take a look at some of the yards. And um

[42:33] it's it's kind of sort of shame that a

[42:35] few basically dictate what the rest of

[42:38] us have to do because they're they're homes with 8 n 10 cars parked in

[42:44] the front yard and the neighbors are the

[42:47] ones that are getting beat up for that.

[42:50] You know what I mean? They the the value

[42:52] of their homes are going down. They

[42:54] can't sell it like they want to because

[42:55] of that eyesore. So, I totally

[42:58] understand where you guys are coming

[43:00] from and I hope you guys live up to your promise. But, um, that's all I got

[43:06] big guy. Oh, I'm sorry.

[43:09] Commissioners,

[43:11] [laughter]

[43:12] I'll answer the big guy. That's okay.

[43:16] [laughter]

[43:17] >> Great. Any questions for Councilman

[43:19] McCall from the commission?

[43:22] We appreciate you joining us. Join us

[43:24] anytime.

[43:25] >> I'm sure I'll be back.

[43:27] >> Good. We won't complain. All right.

[43:29] Moves us on to number five on our

[43:31] agenda. This is a review and decision on

[43:32] the March 25th, 2026 planning commission

[43:35] meeting minutes. Are there any

[43:37] corrections or additions that need to be

[43:38] made?

[43:41] >> I'll entertain a motion.

[43:42] >> I move we accept the minutes as

[43:44] prepared.

[43:45] >> Motion to approve from Commissioner

[43:47] Proctor. Do I have a second?

[43:48] >> I'll second. and a comm and second from

[43:50] commissioner Lynford. Any discussion

[43:52] before we vote? Commissioner Hammer, how

[43:55] do you vote?

[43:55] >> I.

[43:56] >> Commissioner Lynford,

[43:56] >> I.

[43:57] >> Commissioner Proctor,

[43:58] >> I.

[43:58] >> Commissioner Cordova,

[43:59] >> I.

[43:59] >> Commissioner Jensen,

[44:00] >> I.

[44:01] >> Commissioner Anderson,

[44:02] >> I.

[44:02] >> Chairman Hamilton also votes I. Those

[44:04] pass seven to zero. Moves us on to

[44:06] number six on our agenda. I'll entertain

[44:09] a motion to adjurnn.

[44:10] >> Please do. No, we are adjourned at 7:38

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