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appeals for case number 2020-01
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my name is dara spencer and i am the
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chair of the chesapeake beach board
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of appeals tonight's hearing is being
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conducted
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virtually each member of the board is
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participating
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remotely the hearing is being
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live streamed and will be published on
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youtube
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for those persons logged on to this
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meeting
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or uh
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on the call you'll have an opportunity
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to speak ask questions
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and comment for the record
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at the appropriate time i will ask for
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your comments
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so let me take a roll call element of
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the members
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and call this hearing to order
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mr david ferguson are you here
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i'm here miss kelly stewart
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are you here
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mr jody home star are you here
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miss jane ruttke are you here
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yes i am and i would like to
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welcome you jane as the new member
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thank you darth to the board of
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appearance
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okay uh let it be recorded that we have
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a quorum
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also with us sharon hume
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who is the town clerk and secretary to
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the board of appeals
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frederick sussman who is the attorney
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for the board of appeals
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and christopher jacoba
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which is the town planner and zoning
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administrator
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the purpose of this hearing is to
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consent to consider
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two requests from the calvin county
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board of education
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the board of education is proposing to
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develop
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7900 old bayside road in order to
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replace
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beach elementary school with a new
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school building
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the first request is for a special
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exception in order to use the property
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of seventy nine hundred old bayside bill
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for a public school the second request
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is the variance the applicant
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would like to modify the zoning
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ordinances
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maximum height limit so that the new
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school building can exceed the limit of
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35 feet
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we will hear the special exception case
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first only after we've heard all the
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evidence on the special exception
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and any public comment will we take up
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the variance case once we've heard all
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the testimony on
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the variants including public comments
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we will close the hearing and move into
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deliberations
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it is my intention that we decide both
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matters this evening
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before we begin testimony
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i like to ask mr sussman to swear in
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everyone
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who intends to offer comments and
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testify at this
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evening's hearing on either
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the special exception and or the
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variance
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so if you wish to speak to the board
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this evening
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on these matters please prepare now
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to be sworn in
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so if anybody who would like to or
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intend
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to speak to the board tonight would
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raise your right hand
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i will administer the oath
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do you follow solidly swear or affirm
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under the penalties of perjury that the
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testimony
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you are about to give and the responses
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and statements
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you are about to make will be the whole
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truth
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and nothing but the truth and signify
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by saying i do i do
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well the record reflects that many
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people have
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indicated they intend to testify and
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have taken the oath
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thank you madam chair okay
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now i'd like to ask the board secretary
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sharon hume to confirm that this meeting
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was properly notified
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and advertised as required by town code
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yes the pop pro the property was posted
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on july 27th
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uh in three areas on the property um
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advertised in the southern maryland
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newspaper beginning uh
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on the july 24th edition and then ran
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for
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three weeks thereafter uh the adjacent
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property owners were notified by
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certified mail by letter dated july 31st
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okay good these documents will now be uh
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recorded as exhibits
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now let's begin with the application
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before i turn to the town planner for a
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summary
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i'd like mr sussman to take a moment to
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explain
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what special exceptions and variances
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are
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and what criteria we will use to make
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our decisions
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thank you madam chair first we have
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what's known as a special exception is a use that the
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count council has determined is
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appropriate
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and compatible in a particular zoning
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district
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as well as certain criteria are
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satisfied
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in deciding to approve or deny a special
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exception
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the board applies standards that are set
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forth
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in section 290-12-d
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of the zoning ordinance each standard
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must be satisfied and the applicant
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has the burden of proof there are
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six standards which i will read to you
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now
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number one the establishment
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maintenance and operation of the special
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exception
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will not be detrimental to or endanger
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the public health safety or general
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welfare
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number two the special exception
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shall be such that it will be harmonious
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in character
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as well as appropriate in appearance
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with
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and will not be injurious to the use
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and enjoyment of other property in the
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neighborhood
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for the purposes already permitted nor
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they canceled mine what was that i
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thought it was bernie
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i know but i thought it was coming out
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of bernie's throat
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uh can somebody abuse themselves please
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so as i was saying the uh
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the youth will not be injurious to the
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youth and enjoyment of other property in
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the neighborhood
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for the purposes already permitted nor
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substantially diminish
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and impair property values within the
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neighborhood
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three the establishment of the special
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exception
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will not impede the normal and orderly
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development
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and improvement of surrounding
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properties
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for the uses permitted in the zoning
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district
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number four the establishment
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and operation of the special exception
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will not adversely impact the capacity
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and or safety of the town infrastructure
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such as roads water and sewer drainage
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and things of that nature
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fine the special exception shall be such
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that pedestrian and vehicular traffic
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associated with such use
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will not be hazardous to or unduly
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conflict
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with the existing and anticipated
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traffic
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in the neighborhood and finally number
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six
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the establishment maintenance and
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operation
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of the special exception are consistent
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with the town of chesapeake beach
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comprehensive plan
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so those are the six criteria that the
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board
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has to consider and make positive
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findings on
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in order to grant a special exception
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now let me turn for a moment to a
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variance is a modification
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to the strict application of the
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dimensional standards
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of the zoning ordinance there are times
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when an applicant
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faces significant limitations
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in the ability to develop land because
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of the lay of the land or
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some other physical condition of these
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plants such as
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shape or topography and cannot meet the
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dimensional standard
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or finds that trying to meet the
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standard
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he or she would experience a hardship
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the zoning ordinance provides or allows
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for the
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standard to be modified or varied
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but in order for the board to approve a
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variance an
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applicant must prove and the board must
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find
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that certain standards are met for a
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very
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for a variance there are five standards
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that must be met
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first that the granting of the variants
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will be in harmony with the general
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purpose
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and intent of the zoning ordinance
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and shall not be injurious to the
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neighborhood
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or otherwise detrimental to the public
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welfare
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number two that the granting of the
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variance
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will not permit the existence within the
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zoning district of any use which is not
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permitted
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in that district number three
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that there are special circumstances or
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conditions
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fully described in the board findings
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applying to the land
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or buildings for which the variance is
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sought
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which circumstances or conditions are
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peculiar to the land of buildings
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and do not apply generally to land or
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buildings
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in the neighborhood and that the
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circumstances or conditions
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are such that the strict interpretation
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of the provisions of the zoning chapter
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would deprive the applicant of the
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reasonable use
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of the lander building number four
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that there exists unnecessary hardship
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if the hardship unnecessary hardship
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if the hardship is general that is
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shared
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generally by lander buildings of the
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neighborhood relief
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should be properly obtained only by
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legislative action
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by the town council or by court review
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of the attack on the validity of the
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zoning ordinance
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and finally number five and again i
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would ask
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somebody who uh has their uh
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mic on to please mute
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that the granting of the variance is
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necessary for the reasonable use of the
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land
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or building and that's invariance
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as granted by the board is the minimum
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variance
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that will accomplish the purpose so
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those
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five standards must be found by the
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board
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in order to grab the variance thank you
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we're going to take up the special
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exception
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first so in a moment i will ask mr
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jakubiak
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to summarize the special exception
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requests
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after we have had an opportunity to ask
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chris questions
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i will ask the applicant to introduce
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those members
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who will be offering testimony and to
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present the case
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on the special exception i want to
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repeat
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that i would like to hear the case
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for the special exception first
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once we've heard the applicant's case
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for the special exception
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we will hear from anyone who may wish to
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testify
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on behalf of or in opposition to
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the special exception then i will close
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the testimony on
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the special exception and we'll start
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again but this time
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with the variance after we finish the
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presentation of
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evidence and the public comment on the
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variants
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we will formally begin our deliberate
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deliberations
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and decide each matter if
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there is no objection from the board
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i'd like to ask the town planner staff
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uh be entered into the record as
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an exhibit
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okay mr jacobiak please summarize the
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special
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exception application
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okay thank you um first i'd like to ask
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holly uh who i believe is posting
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tonight's meeting if she could share the
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screen allow me to share the screen
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so i can place an exhibit on
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your monitors
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sure you should be able to share
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uh well right now it says uh host
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disabled
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attendee screen sharing
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okay go ahead
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okay
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can everyone see the aerial photograph
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showing the school and the neighborhood
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yes indeed okay yes
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now especially the members thank you
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the um the application for a special
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exception
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uh is required under the zoning
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ordinance to redevelop
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this property it's currently the home as
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you know
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to beach elementary school which is
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about 65 000 square feet
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of building coverage uh
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it's located at the inner section
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bayside road and bayside road
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at 7 900 bayside and um i wanted to
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point out a couple of features
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that are relevant to tonight's
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discussion first the
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front of the school property along
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bayside road is largely devoted to
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recreational uh
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activities there's tennis courts there's
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a small
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park in a little grove of trees
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it's generally recognized as an open
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space amenity for
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the town i wanted to mention that there
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is a sidewalk
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along bayside road it's a five-foot
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sidewalk it exists today
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has been there for many many years there
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is no sidewalk
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on the east side of bayside road
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and there is no sidewalk south of old
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bayside road
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there is no sidewalk on old bayside road
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either those are existing conditions
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um i also wanted to point out that
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the site is 17 acres in size
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but a major part of the site is
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simply undevelopable or couldn't be
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developed without substantial impact to
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the environment
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this forested area is part of the
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property
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there are steep slopes here and there
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are wetlands
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here's the marsh that um
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characterizes the town and you can see
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the the railway trail
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just north of the site over the marsh
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uh here's e street which is almost at
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the
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just beyond the edge of the property and
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here's the water tower site
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which stands at about 135 foot tall
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um and will remit
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will always remain a prominent feature
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in this
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the uh landscape
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side of the town so i i mentioned the
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sidewalks only to
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indicate to you that they're not very
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adequate just yet
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but the project itself is going to make
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a major contribution
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to improving the situation um the school will be providing a
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sky a sidewalk connection from
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bayside road all the way through the
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frontage of the property
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um and i know that the applicant will
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make
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an extraordinary presentation like he
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did in front of the planning commission
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a couple weeks back
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and he will show you where that sidewalk
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on
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and how it works to separate kids
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from buses and kids from vehicle traffic
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um you might also wonder about how
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kids from south of
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uh enter the school site
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for the time being there is no sidewalk
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here but there is a sidewalk proposed
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as part of the safe routes to school
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project which is a state
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funding program in cooperation with
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towns to develop
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sidewalks uh it's certainly
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our hope when i say that i mean me as
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staff in the planning commission
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that is looking at improving walkability
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in chesapeake beach
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it is our hope that sidewalks will
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eventually be built that will connect
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the neighborhood to the school
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the planning commission thinks it's
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important
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at least have the ability to walk to
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school and
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so that's a part of this project that i
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think these
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the applicants have gone a long way to
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helping us
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realize and you'll see that in a few
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moments
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um there are a number of standards as
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mr sussman mentioned that have to be met
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and it's up to the applicant to prove to
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you that each of those
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standards are met but i'd like
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you to keep in mind that this site has
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been a school
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site since 1953
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and over time it has
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been expanded and morphed into its
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current configuration
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there have been a number of additions to
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it over time
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the current capacity of the school is
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about 471 students and
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over time that the actual enrollment has
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exceeded capacity
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uh and i am not aware of there being any
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significant impacts of that school site
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on adjoining properties or in health or
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safety or public welfare
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these things that our standards ask us
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to look at
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the proposed school will have a capacity
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of uh
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474 or actually i can't remember right
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now i'll have to look
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um to verify that but it's going to be
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roughly 500
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roughly 100 students more um
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and then looking through the staff
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report
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578 578 thank you thank you
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so i i um
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i wanted to mention that however the
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school building itself
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in terms of its footprint on the
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landscape is going to be about ten
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thousand square feet smaller
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um and in part that's a reflection of
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the fact that
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it's difficult to build a new school
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on a site that's constrained
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environmentally
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and keep the students in school while
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you're doing it
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so the proposal will be to maintain
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the existing buildings or building while
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the new school is being built
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and um it's a fact that
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there's not much room
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on this site to do school uh
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that is your traditional suburban
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sprawling school
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and uh in response to those conditions
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uh the
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architecture and engineering team took a
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pretty innovative approach to address
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site conditions and and to minimize the
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impact of
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the new building on the town on streets
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on the neighborhood and
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standards that have to be met um
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so regarding standard one i just want to
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take a quick summary and i know the
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applicant will present
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this information too but many ways on
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divorcing but they will say
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the the use will not be detrimental to
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or endanger the public health or safety
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uh regarding uh standard one as i
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mentioned the school has existed since
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1953
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um and ingress and egress
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have not appeared to create any safety
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concerns the current proposal that
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you'll see tonight
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um addresses a lot of access issues
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and seeks to separate pedestrians from
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vehicles
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um regarding standard two uh the
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special exception will be harmonious in
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character as well as appropriate in
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appearance appearance
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and will not injure the enjoyment of
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property in the neighborhood
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i wanted to mention that the
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illustrations that you have in your
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package
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are designed to indicate that the
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building will use materials and
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architectural styles and motifs
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with local precedent they're drawn from
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chesapeake beach in the
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existing built environment
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and the applicant i'm
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fairly certain will take time to
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demonstrate how their proposed building
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while it will be taller in places than
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the current building
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uh has been designed to fit compatibly
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uh within this residential neighborhood
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regarding standard three the
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establishment of the special exception would not impede the
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normal and orderly development
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of surrounding properties um as you know
[24:32]
the area is largely developed now there
[24:36]
are houses on
[24:37]
old bayside road and there are houses on
[24:40]
15th street uh they exist today
[24:43]
and the school has existed there in a
[24:46]
harmonious way more or less
[24:48]
uh for many decades and we don't
[24:51]
anticipate that
[24:52]
changing uh with the just a change in
[24:54]
the configuration of the building in the
[24:56]
site
[24:58]
regarding standard four
[25:03]
the establishment and operation of the
[25:05]
special exception will not adversely
[25:07]
impact the capacity and safety of the
[25:09]
town
[25:10]
infrastructure uh roads water sewer and
[25:12]
drainage
[25:19]
the water and sewer systems are
[25:22]
more than adequate to serve the the
[25:25]
school
[25:27]
um in fact
[25:30]
while i my my belief is having looked at
[25:33]
this is that the actual
[25:34]
usage of water and sewage may be
[25:37]
at least the water demand will be um
[25:42]
maybe less than the current school
[25:44]
because all the fixtures will be modern
[25:46]
and
[25:46]
energy or water conservation fixtures
[25:51]
the impacted aerial roads will be
[25:55]
not be materially different than
[25:58]
the current usage buses will have a
[26:01]
special one-way route
[26:03]
from an in to antu bay old bay side road
[26:06]
for drop off and pickup
[26:08]
there won't be buses lined up on old
[26:11]
bayside road
[26:13]
there's also going to be a fairly
[26:15]
extensive sidewalk network along the
[26:17]
perimeter of the property
[26:22]
number five this special exception will
[26:25]
be such that pedestrian and vehicle
[26:27]
traffic
[26:28]
uh would not be hazardous to or unduly
[26:31]
conflict with the existing
[26:33]
and anticipated traffic in the
[26:35]
neighborhood
[26:37]
the only reservation i have about this
[26:39]
and this is something that i will
[26:40]
certainly take up with the
[26:41]
um the engineer is that the current
[26:44]
sidewalk
[26:45]
ends um the sidewalk that's proposed by the
[26:51]
applicant
[26:52]
ends about 130 feet or so short of
[26:56]
an intersection so it kind of stops mid
[26:58]
block
[26:59]
just before it gets to
[27:03]
e street and because of that that's an
[27:06]
issue and um we would like to coordinate with
[27:10]
the
[27:10]
school to ensure that that connection
[27:13]
gets
[27:14]
built in a reasonable time and that's
[27:16]
something that i like to coordinate
[27:18]
between our town engineer
[27:19]
and the the applicant's engineer so that
[27:22]
we're all in the same
[27:24]
wavelength uh and we're all marching in
[27:27]
the same direction about getting that
[27:28]
sidewall
[27:29]
accomplished in a reasonable time that
[27:32]
sidewalk
[27:33]
all the way to e street is actually part
[27:34]
of the safe safe routes to school
[27:37]
plan that we're working with the state
[27:39]
highway administration on
[27:41]
and the last standard is about the
[27:43]
comprehensive plan
[27:45]
um and uh
[27:48]
the established maintenance and
[27:49]
operation of this special exception are
[27:51]
consistent with the comprehensive plan
[27:53]
chesapeake beach well the plan calls for
[27:56]
school at this site obviously and hasn't
[27:58]
departed from that
[27:59]
through a number of iterations of the comprehensive plan
[28:07]
social science being connected to it it
[28:10]
shows a park and recreational resource
[28:12]
being made
[28:13]
out of the school so that the school
[28:15]
continues to be a a
[28:16]
park we have a map in the comprehensive
[28:18]
plan that shows p for park right on the school property and i'm
[28:21]
happy to say that the school is actually
[28:23]
showing that very thing and in that
[28:25]
respect it's retained that
[28:27]
character that the current school has
[28:29]
the tennis courts up in the front
[28:32]
um park and open space and in fact
[28:36]
from my standpoint as a urban planner
[28:39]
i've i see that the schools actually
[28:41]
improved upon that
[28:43]
part of the town's character
[28:47]
by actually expanding the accessibility
[28:50]
of that open space and
[28:51]
building upon it and i'm certain that
[28:53]
the applicant will
[28:54]
discuss that today the one part that
[28:58]
these schools um i
[29:01]
still need to address and i and as
[29:04]
indicated to me
[29:05]
and to the planning commission its
[29:06]
willingness to address
[29:08]
is connecting these school property
[29:11]
to the rails or to the fishing creek
[29:14]
trail project
[29:15]
um and that's a something of vital importance
[29:21]
to the comprehensive planet of town and
[29:23]
i'm very confident that uh we'll take
[29:25]
that issue up when this matter goes back
[29:27]
to the planning commission
[29:29]
but i wanted to hire that like that to
[29:31]
you um
[29:32]
and if you have any questions about the
[29:33]
applicant on that specific point
[29:35]
uh you could certainly that can
[29:37]
certainly be a discussion tonight
[29:40]
although it does not need to be because
[29:41]
i feel the applicant has
[29:44]
indicated a clear willingness to to
[29:47]
close the window on that issue
[29:50]
and work with us to at least identify
[29:53]
where that
[29:54]
alignment might be in the future or best
[29:56]
could be to connect the school property
[29:58]
to the town's fishing creek railway
[30:01]
trail
[30:03]
so in summary on the special exception
[30:08]
oops
[30:12]
sorry trying to get there
[30:19]
on the special exception request the applicant proposes to completely
[30:26]
redevelop
[30:27]
this property the building
[30:30]
mass that is located here now in the
[30:33]
front
[30:34]
will largely be shifted to this area
[30:37]
where my where i'm circling here um
[30:40]
and much of this area will be devoted to
[30:44]
open space and
[30:45]
recreational amenities um
[30:49]
the impact to the natural environment
[30:52]
will be substantially minimized there's
[30:54]
very little incursion into
[30:56]
the critical area buffer or wetlands
[30:59]
and to the extent there is any incursion
[31:02]
into the wetlands
[31:03]
the town has already found that those
[31:06]
con incursions which are quite minimal
[31:08]
actually
[31:09]
amounting to about 10 to 13 000 square
[31:12]
feet
[31:13]
are necessary for the project they
[31:15]
actually repair stormwater management
[31:17]
outfall which will improve the
[31:18]
environmental condition
[31:21]
and and these incursions or cutouts of
[31:24]
the
[31:24]
natural area are actually consistent
[31:27]
with the plan
[31:28]
because any tree that is removed will be
[31:32]
replaced within the buffer any shrubs or
[31:34]
natural vegetation
[31:36]
will be replaced essentially in the same
[31:38]
location where they're removed
[31:40]
but certainly within the official
[31:42]
critical area buffer
[31:43]
and we've been in contact with the
[31:46]
critical area commission now
[31:47]
already and uh we've gotten guidance
[31:50]
from them
[31:50]
and i feel confident that the final plan
[31:53]
will implement the critical area
[31:54]
regulations
[31:56]
um just fine uh so that's my summary uh dr spencer
[32:04]
if there's no objection from the board
[32:06]
i'd like the town
[32:08]
plan and staff report entered into the
[32:10]
record
[32:11]
as uh an exhibit
[32:15]
hey mr jacobiak please summarize the
[32:18]
special exception
[32:20]
oh well i i know i i did a
[32:24]
well just to summarize um the
[32:28]
i believe the applicant has met the
[32:29]
criteria for the special exception
[32:32]
and while my presentation is
[32:35]
simply focused on an existing map i
[32:37]
wanted to save
[32:38]
the actual plan documents for the
[32:40]
applicant to present
[32:42]
which i'm certain he's ready to do
[32:45]
okay are there any questions from the
[32:47]
board
[32:51]
none here as well no
[33:05]
okay let's hear from the applicant on
[33:09]
this
[33:10]
matter
[33:16]
there if i may share my screen this is
[33:18]
ron ilkovich
[33:19]
sei architects representing calvert
[33:21]
county public schools
[33:24]
i'm getting a message that the host has
[33:26]
disabled attendee screen sharing
[33:37]
let me know when you see my screen
[33:40]
someone could let me know that'd be
[33:41]
great we see it
[33:44]
awesome great uh if it's all right i'd
[33:46]
like to
[33:48]
make a presentation of the project in
[33:49]
its entirety and then break down the
[33:51]
special exception
[33:52]
first and the variance but just to keep
[33:55]
the presentation consistent
[33:57]
i'll just i'll run through the entire
[33:59]
project and explain it all because i
[34:00]
think there are pieces
[34:03]
of the project and the presentation that
[34:05]
address both the special exception and
[34:07]
the variance
[34:09]
uh if that's okay uh as was outlined
[34:12]
ahead of time chris you did a great job
[34:15]
we're here to present the our
[34:17]
preliminary plan for the replacement of
[34:18]
the beach elementary school
[34:20]
on its current site which includes the
[34:22]
school
[34:23]
as well as site improvements around the
[34:25]
school and associated with the school
[34:28]
and we're here to request that special
[34:29]
exception to allow us to redevelop the
[34:31]
site
[34:32]
in its current existing use as a
[34:34]
elementary school in the medium density
[34:36]
residential zone
[34:37]
and after that we're going we're here to
[34:40]
also request
[34:41]
a variance to exceed that 35 height foot
[34:43]
height limitation
[34:45]
before i begin i want to share a little
[34:47]
bit about the process
[34:48]
that we went through to get here you can
[34:51]
see that there are many
[34:52]
attendees to this meeting and many of
[34:54]
those represent
[34:55]
what we call our stakeholder advisory
[34:57]
group
[34:58]
the process that we took to get here was
[35:00]
extremely collaborative
[35:02]
it included both a feasibility study as
[35:04]
well as a schematic design process
[35:06]
and a lot of those members of that
[35:08]
stakeholder group many of whom i
[35:10]
again are on the call today are
[35:12]
dedicated community members
[35:14]
school administrators teachers parents
[35:16]
people who grew up in the community
[35:19]
all of whom participated in the process
[35:21]
and i want to really emphasize
[35:23]
that the the results of that process
[35:26]
that you're going to see before you
[35:27]
today
[35:27]
are really result of the impact and the
[35:30]
input that those people brought to that
[35:32]
commitment that they made to be part of
[35:34]
that stakeholder advisory group
[35:35]
so i can't thank everybody enough for
[35:37]
their involvement in this project
[35:40]
another influence in the project and a
[35:42]
stakeholder group is a town of
[35:43]
chesapeake beach
[35:45]
we took very much into consideration the
[35:47]
2040
[35:48]
vision plan and that was a guide to our
[35:50]
stakeholder group
[35:51]
and we found amongst the stakeholder
[35:53]
group that many of the goals
[35:55]
and the ideals of that 2040 vision were
[35:57]
the same goals and ideals that we had
[35:59]
for our project
[36:00]
the the idea of how we fit into the town plan the scale of the town
[36:05]
the uh the environmental impact and the
[36:08]
importance of the bay
[36:09]
and the environment and the local
[36:11]
ecology that had to both the town
[36:13]
as well as to the school committee uh so
[36:16]
before you have our kind of an analysis of the
[36:20]
existing condition
[36:21]
on the bottom right corner sorry i'll
[36:23]
start at the top right
[36:25]
this is one of the most special school
[36:27]
sites i think we've ever had a great
[36:29]
opportunity to work on
[36:30]
uh you can see from the project site
[36:33]
within a quarter mile so a five minute
[36:35]
walk of the waterfront of the chesapeake bay
[36:37]
as well as the fishing creek site
[36:40]
within a half mile walk a 10-minute walk
[36:42]
we cross the bridge into downtown
[36:44]
chesapeake beach so
[36:45]
the idea of the semi-urban environment
[36:48]
the local ecology
[36:49]
those are all pieces that make
[36:51]
chesapeake beach elementary school what
[36:52]
it is
[36:53]
and something that we really want to
[36:54]
celebrate in our project
[36:56]
uh also was mentioned the idea of the
[36:59]
interconnectivity of the town and this
[37:01]
is a major emphasis of that 2040 vision
[37:03]
as well
[37:04]
so whether it be through pedestrian
[37:06]
pathways or bicycle pathways you can see
[37:08]
how that
[37:09]
project site of the chesapeake beach
[37:10]
elementary school is really integral to
[37:12]
that interconnection of that town
[37:14]
uh in a different way other than just
[37:16]
driving to everywhere that you go
[37:18]
as we move into the site we see some of
[37:21]
the impacts that the
[37:22]
existing conditions give us and although
[37:25]
the site is 17
[37:26]
acres in size as chris mentioned a lot
[37:29]
of that is steep topography
[37:31]
we have wetlands uh buffers as well
[37:34]
as forest buffers for that forested area
[37:37]
behind the school
[37:38]
uh we also have the existing uh zoning
[37:41]
setbacks which we are respecting with
[37:43]
the project
[37:44]
uh sorry environmental buffer offset
[37:47]
setbacks as well as the existing
[37:49]
building
[37:50]
and the existing building will remain in
[37:52]
place while we are
[37:54]
under construction remain in operation
[37:56]
while we're under construction
[37:57]
uh and one thing i may point out here is
[37:59]
that existing building has a large
[38:01]
number of portables and outbuildings
[38:03]
associated with it which really
[38:04]
demonstrates the need for this project
[38:07]
eliminating all those those portable
[38:09]
classrooms and bringing those children into a proper elementary
[38:13]
school environment
[38:14]
is really important to all of us as
[38:16]
community members
[38:18]
all of those things together really give
[38:20]
us a very limited building area
[38:22]
and you can see that identified within
[38:24]
this bubble on the diagram
[38:26]
before you and for that reason we're
[38:29]
looking for that special exception and
[38:30]
also sharing that as the constraints of
[38:32]
the site and the hardships that the site
[38:34]
uh offered to this project
[38:39]
sorry um i mentioned the idea of the
[38:42]
existing school building remaining in
[38:43]
place
[38:44]
as a result we're limited to that
[38:46]
building area to the west of the
[38:47]
existing school building
[38:49]
and we'll be implementing this project
[38:50]
in such a way that it can be built on
[38:52]
the site
[38:53]
while the existing building's still in
[38:54]
operation and you can see a phasing diagram here in which the
[38:58]
existing building would be constructed
[39:00]
once it can be constructed and occupied
[39:02]
the new the once the new building is
[39:04]
constructed and occupied sorry the
[39:05]
existing building and portables can be
[39:07]
demolished and removed
[39:08]
and the remainder of the site in the
[39:10]
final phase be completed
[39:12]
intended for school year of 2023.
[39:16]
moving into the site itself i want to
[39:18]
share a little bit about what our
[39:20]
process looked like
[39:22]
knowing where the building really had to
[39:23]
go the only buildable area of the site
[39:26]
we started with this diagram
[39:27]
on the top left it took the idea of how
[39:31]
does the site now relate to the building
[39:33]
and how does the site also relate to the
[39:35]
town in that
[39:36]
town master plan and with the building
[39:38]
in this location
[39:40]
we identified areas of program in the
[39:42]
building that would relate directly to
[39:44]
program in the site
[39:45]
and in doing so we developed a series of
[39:47]
these five zones
[39:48]
across the site of the building there's
[39:50]
obviously the building area
[39:52]
and that's the school building zone to
[39:54]
the west of the school building zone
[39:56]
is the service and play areas for the
[39:58]
school kind of a private more private
[40:00]
uh controlled play area for the school
[40:02]
and that relates directly to the gym in
[40:04]
the cafeteria zone that would be in the
[40:06]
school
[40:06]
and being this far on back on the site
[40:08]
it's also the ideal place for service
[40:11]
to the building on the front of the site
[40:13]
it would relate to the entry sequence
[40:15]
the secure entry
[40:17]
gathering places outdoor learning areas
[40:19]
in the front of the site
[40:20]
from a staff from a town standpoint a
[40:23]
town planning standpoint
[40:24]
what we wanted to avoid was the idea of
[40:27]
building a huge parking lot with a
[40:29]
school behind it and presenting that
[40:31]
kind of image
[40:32]
and chris spoke very eloquently about
[40:34]
the idea where the school
[40:35]
we really wanted to envision it or give
[40:37]
it the image of a park
[40:39]
and a school within a park and for that
[40:42]
reason we put the transit zone so the
[40:44]
parking the drop off area and the bus
[40:46]
loop behind what we're calling a public
[40:48]
green
[40:49]
so the face of the school from bayside
[40:51]
road would would be this public green
[40:53]
and then the school would occur behind
[40:55]
that public green
[40:56]
we then went into the implementation of
[40:58]
that idea
[41:00]
how we would zone the building out with the program of the school the
[41:04]
playgrounds the play areas the play
[41:06]
fields and the existing tennis court
[41:08]
to end up with the design that you see
[41:10]
on the top right of your screen here
[41:13]
and i'll just explain the design from east to west
[41:16]
from old bayside road we intend to
[41:18]
provide a park-like setting
[41:20]
again the existing tennis courts will
[41:21]
remain the the project is designed such
[41:24]
that a lot of the
[41:25]
significant trees in this front area
[41:27]
those large trees will
[41:28]
also remain once our project is complete
[41:31]
and behind that
[41:32]
a play field uh and a natural trail kind
[41:34]
of a green
[41:35]
front to the building so parkland motif
[41:38]
uh
[41:38]
once we get beyond that into what we're
[41:40]
calling the transit zone
[41:41]
the parking lot and the bus loop really
[41:44]
exists in an area where it's not the
[41:45]
first thing the most prominent thing
[41:46]
that you would experience from bayside
[41:48]
road
[41:49]
likewise on old bayside road we want to
[41:52]
develop a green buffer zone
[41:54]
buffering the building and any hard
[41:56]
surfaces from old bayside road
[41:58]
and create kind of this meandering
[42:00]
pathway which is our sidewalk
[42:02]
system connecting the two corners of our
[42:03]
site here
[42:05]
moving back to the building the media
[42:07]
center the administration
[42:09]
uh all relate to outdoor learning
[42:11]
environments and i want to point out
[42:12]
that by putting the administration proud
[42:14]
on the southeast corner of the building
[42:16]
it provides us an ideal security posture
[42:19]
this is a little bit higher on the site
[42:21]
and from this position it can surveil
[42:23]
the entire
[42:24]
front of the site as well as anybody
[42:26]
coming from old bayside road
[42:27]
so anyone who comes to the building
[42:29]
they'll see you coming before you get to
[42:31]
the front door
[42:32]
that surveillance uh is a very important
[42:35]
component of the school security system
[42:38]
and then on the back of the site is all
[42:39]
our kids play areas the schools play
[42:42]
field
[42:42]
related to the gym the outdoor
[42:44]
playground areas related to the
[42:46]
cafeteria on that
[42:48]
site uh circulation through the site was
[42:51]
also a critical component
[42:52]
particularly for safety reasons in our
[42:54]
design process
[42:56]
you'll notice that with the sidewalk
[42:58]
system coming in in all three major
[43:00]
corners of the building
[43:01]
a pedestrian student can walk to the
[43:04]
front door
[43:05]
without ever crossing any piece of
[43:07]
traffic so whether you're you're
[43:10]
coming into park or you're coming in to
[43:11]
drop a child off or if the bus
[43:14]
is coming to drop kids off once you get
[43:16]
on that site you're able to access the
[43:18]
front of the school and that front door
[43:19]
without ever crossing traffic which is a
[43:21]
significant
[43:22]
safety uh item that we tried to
[43:25]
incorporate into the design of the
[43:27]
school
[43:28]
likewise the circulation is also
[43:30]
intended to segregate
[43:32]
uh vehicle traffic parent drop-off and
[43:34]
the bus
[43:35]
loop circulation patterns in their
[43:37]
entirety so right now those patterns
[43:39]
overlap so
[43:40]
parents drop off with school buses and they all
[43:43]
enter interface with one another the
[43:46]
idea now is that any parent dropping off
[43:48]
student will do so
[43:50]
essentially where they come into the
[43:51]
parking lot now only we've developed a
[43:53]
very
[43:54]
long neck for those parents to stack
[43:55]
along and they would drive down this
[43:57]
lane
[43:58]
and drop off directly on the sidewalk
[44:00]
again the intent here
[44:02]
is multiple one is any student who is
[44:04]
dropped off or picked up by a parent
[44:06]
does so directly from a sidewalk and
[44:08]
never crosses traffic to get to that
[44:10]
safety point
[44:11]
the other is safety of the vehicles on
[44:13]
bayside road
[44:15]
creating this long neck means that no
[44:16]
one is stopped on old
[44:18]
on stopped on bayside road waiting to
[44:21]
enter the site
[44:22]
and potentially be an issue for a car
[44:24]
cresting the hill coming downhill
[44:26]
southbound on on bayside road getting
[44:28]
that traffic off of bayside road is a
[44:30]
safety measure that we're hoping to
[44:32]
implement
[44:33]
for the safety of bayside road
[44:36]
also keeping buses off of bayside road
[44:39]
and having them enter the site as they
[44:40]
currently do on
[44:41]
old bayside road helps the movement of
[44:44]
traffic on bayside road northbound and
[44:46]
southbound
[44:47]
the bus loop will be reconfigured on the
[44:50]
site
[44:50]
kind of in its current location but now
[44:53]
a little bit deeper into the site so
[44:54]
that we can get appropriate turning
[44:56]
radiuses
[44:57]
radii i apologize and we can now park
[45:00]
eight buses nose to tail
[45:01]
along the sidewalk directly so kids
[45:04]
getting off the bus
[45:05]
again will never cross traffic between
[45:07]
the bus and walking
[45:10]
a significant safety measure in the safe
[45:13]
access to the school site
[45:18]
um looking at that diagram and where
[45:20]
we're really stuck
[45:21]
into the site and where the building
[45:23]
really has to be really led to that
[45:26]
uh difficulty of fitting all of our
[45:28]
program
[45:29]
in the footprint permitted and that's
[45:31]
why we will be asking later this evening
[45:33]
for that variance to exceed the 35 feet
[45:36]
but it also offered us some
[45:38]
opportunities which i'll share with you
[45:41]
one was as we surveyed the existing
[45:43]
building and we got up on the roof
[45:44]
we could we recognized that from a
[45:46]
higher vantage point we could actually
[45:48]
see the bay
[45:49]
uh particularly in the winter when the
[45:50]
leaves of the trees are down and
[45:52]
likewise we could see into the ecology
[45:54]
to the north
[45:55]
uh down towards fishing creek and we
[45:57]
think from a pedagogical standpoint for
[45:59]
a school the way it's so connected to
[46:01]
its local environment and ecosystem
[46:03]
is a great advantage that beach
[46:05]
elementary school will have that no
[46:07]
other elementary school could even dream
[46:08]
of
[46:09]
so really reinforcing the opportunity to
[46:11]
take advantage of those natural
[46:13]
resources
[46:14]
as a as a learning opportunity for our
[46:16]
school was very
[46:17]
uh great opportunity that our
[46:21]
stakeholder advisory group wanted to
[46:23]
take take advantage of
[46:24]
the other neat thing that came through
[46:26]
that process was the lighthouse
[46:28]
inspiration and the motif of the
[46:30]
lighthouse
[46:30]
and that this school could kind of be
[46:32]
that beacon on the hill uh once it's
[46:34]
it once it's finally built uh in our in
[46:37]
the design
[46:38]
uh likewise if any one of you have
[46:41]
walked this site you know that it
[46:42]
continues to climb in elevation as you
[46:44]
get from
[46:44]
east to west on the site we started 62
[46:48]
feet above sea level and end up
[46:49]
72 feet above sea level just over the
[46:52]
small distance of our school
[46:54]
and as a result our school will be
[46:55]
designed to kind of step up with the
[46:57]
site
[46:58]
that's important also from a massing
[47:00]
standpoint in that we're always trying
[47:01]
to keep the building as down
[47:03]
in and low in the site as possible not
[47:05]
to overwhelm uh the adjacent community
[47:07]
and i'll show you a little bit more
[47:08]
about that later in our presentation
[47:12]
uh i know it's not germane to the
[47:15]
five and six uh topics of the special
[47:17]
exception of variances
[47:19]
but i just want to share with you some
[47:20]
of our goals and some of what we're
[47:22]
trying to accomplish
[47:23]
and what the the true goal is to
[47:26]
address the learning needs of those uh
[47:29]
570 students at
[47:30]
beach elementary school not just for
[47:32]
today but for tomorrow
[47:34]
so we really talk a lot about what we
[47:36]
call 21st century learning
[47:38]
and next generation learning and these
[47:40]
are learning
[47:41]
theories in which we really try to
[47:44]
address the learning needs of
[47:45]
every student so when i went to school
[47:48]
there was a teacher in the front of the
[47:50]
room with a chalkboard and that teacher
[47:52]
spoke to 35 students all of whom had to
[47:54]
pay attention sit straight and sit up
[47:56]
straight and watch that teacher we've learned
[48:00]
over the years that
[48:01]
students don't really learn best in that atmosphere
[48:04]
some children learn best by themselves
[48:06]
some students learn best when they're
[48:08]
moving around
[48:09]
some students learn best when they're
[48:10]
doing projects some learn in small
[48:13]
groups and some learn individually and
[48:15]
some
[48:15]
learn good well in a long large
[48:18]
group of 20-some students so for that
[48:22]
the diagrams that you see before you
[48:23]
which are the basis and the the theory
[48:26]
of the school
[48:26]
are really such that the classrooms
[48:28]
relate to collaboration spaces where
[48:30]
other activities can occur
[48:32]
and the collaboration spaces in turn
[48:34]
relate to small group learning areas
[48:36]
like resource rooms
[48:37]
where students who need a acoustically
[48:40]
separated space or a quiet space to
[48:42]
learn
[48:42]
uh do best in a smaller environment than
[48:44]
a full-size classroom
[48:46]
so really the intent here is to take
[48:48]
care of the needs of all chesapeake
[48:49]
beach students today and into the future
[48:52]
regardless of their learning needs
[48:54]
uh but in addition the great opportunity
[48:57]
for those collaboration spaces and the
[48:58]
classrooms to have those views to have
[49:00]
that connection to the ecology
[49:02]
to have that connection to the town was
[49:05]
really a great advantage uh that we
[49:07]
couldn't not
[49:08]
take it take uh into accord into the
[49:11]
design of our project
[49:14]
so with that some of the challenges that
[49:16]
our site offered us
[49:17]
uh here we see a section north south of
[49:20]
our three-story building
[49:22]
and where it sits on our site and a
[49:23]
number of things i want to point out
[49:25]
uh chris did discuss about the four
[49:27]
station as well as the steep topography
[49:30]
that really pins us in
[49:31]
to a very small developable area
[49:34]
so you can see that pretty dramatically
[49:36]
on the right side here
[49:37]
on the left on the west side i mean on
[49:40]
the left side of the image
[49:41]
we see old bayside road and what i
[49:43]
really want to point out is that as
[49:45]
old bayside road moves from east to west
[49:47]
you can see in the distance on this top
[49:49]
right image
[49:50]
it rises pretty dramatically in fact it
[49:52]
rises faster than our site and our
[49:54]
building will
[49:56]
and you can see that from old bayside
[49:58]
road in many cases our building will be
[50:00]
down below old bayside road so it will
[50:03]
never
[50:03]
sit prouder the finished floor elevation
[50:06]
than old bayside road
[50:07]
and not really overwhelm the scale of
[50:09]
the site so we're trying to keep that
[50:10]
three to three story building
[50:12]
uh in the appropriate scale of the
[50:14]
community likewise some of the adjacent
[50:16]
buildings uh the residential buildings
[50:18]
do the same
[50:19]
so the visual impact of our building is
[50:21]
significantly diminished
[50:23]
uh despite the the height that we're
[50:25]
requesting
[50:26]
in addition i talked a little bit about
[50:28]
the green buffer zone and you can see
[50:30]
where that exists
[50:31]
between old bayside road and the school
[50:33]
itself and that's that really lovely
[50:35]
meandering walkway that that takes you
[50:37]
from the east edge of the site to the
[50:38]
west edge of the site
[50:40]
through the project of course nothing
[50:43]
can compete with the height of the water
[50:44]
tower which is at the highest point of
[50:46]
the site
[50:47]
and you can see in scale and comparison
[50:50]
of our building to that water tower here
[50:52]
but also very importantly in the graphic
[50:55]
uh
[50:55]
we tried to to put the the building in
[50:59]
scale on site three-dimensionally so
[51:01]
that you can see how the water tower
[51:02]
really does dominate the site
[51:04]
the other piece i want to bring up is
[51:06]
that when you're on old bayside road
[51:08]
if you see the line of the ridge of the
[51:11]
adjacent houses across the street
[51:13]
because the building is set back further
[51:15]
on the site and because the building is
[51:17]
set
[51:17]
down into the site as much as possible
[51:20]
it's not really competing with the
[51:22]
height of the ridge in a
[51:23]
three-dimensional
[51:24]
uh viewpoint so that was very important
[51:26]
for us in
[51:27]
our design to be good neighbors uh
[51:29]
particularly because many of our
[51:31]
stakeholder group were community members
[51:33]
uh and and and uh people who grew up
[51:37]
here again
[51:39]
so images here are the the
[51:42]
aerial image of the school itself these
[51:45]
are the
[51:46]
three houses directly across the street
[51:48]
they in fact sit
[51:49]
higher than our property uh because
[51:51]
those at the east end
[51:52]
are above uh the topography of our site
[51:56]
and hopefully if you recall the site
[51:58]
plan uh house two three and four we'll
[52:00]
actually be looking out into that
[52:01]
parkland
[52:02]
uh in the front of the site the other
[52:05]
building adjacent neighbor
[52:06]
that i want to point out is the daycare
[52:08]
center which is to the northeast corner
[52:10]
of the site
[52:11]
and that's picture image one here on the
[52:13]
top left
[52:14]
and it's an important image because i
[52:17]
want to
[52:18]
kind of reiterate how our idea was to
[52:20]
put a parkland on bayside road with a
[52:23]
school set further back
[52:24]
so two things happen in our relationship
[52:27]
to that neighbor
[52:28]
one is they are significantly uphill
[52:30]
from us
[52:31]
as a result the ridgeline of that
[52:33]
building is actually
[52:34]
from a three-dimensional standpoint
[52:36]
higher visibly than the bridge line of
[52:38]
our building
[52:39]
even at its higher height likewise our
[52:42]
building is set back
[52:43]
and this is a fine balance that we tried
[52:45]
to play where
[52:46]
we're really trying to demonstrate that there's a beautiful new 21st
[52:50]
century school
[52:51]
on the site but also to create that
[52:53]
green buffer which was so important
[52:55]
in our discussions as that front area
[52:57]
and the face that we place to the to the
[52:59]
community
[53:00]
as we develop the site and again i
[53:03]
talked about how on old bayside road we
[53:05]
have the same idea
[53:06]
with the green buffer zone against the
[53:08]
existing building as well as the way
[53:10]
that
[53:10]
the road rises uh a little bit faster
[53:13]
than the site rises and our building
[53:14]
doesn't sit
[53:16]
that much higher than the road in that
[53:18]
elevation
[53:20]
um we hope to provide additional
[53:22]
amenities in addition to the green zone
[53:24]
in the park as well
[53:25]
and chris mentioned some of the
[53:28]
trailhead ideas and how we want to
[53:30]
integrate
[53:30]
fishing creek trail and we talked about
[53:33]
that at the planning commission hearing
[53:35]
and since then we've been able to take
[53:37]
an opportunity so there's some new
[53:38]
information on this slide in front of
[53:40]
you
[53:40]
to start to explore how we might make
[53:42]
those connections uh so i'm sharing that
[53:44]
for the first time here
[53:46]
but i'll talk about the circulation on
[53:48]
site uh in particular
[53:50]
i talked already about the the parent
[53:53]
drop-off and the parking loop
[53:56]
and how that is brought off of bayside
[53:58]
road to protect it
[54:00]
i talked about the uh bus loop which
[54:03]
will now go from three ingresses and
[54:05]
egresses to only two so we're gonna take
[54:07]
one of those
[54:08]
uh throats away we're going to create
[54:11]
appropriate turning radii
[54:12]
and and visibility for the bus loop but
[54:15]
on here also
[54:16]
is a diagram showing three three
[54:20]
levels of pedestrian
[54:24]
circulation on the site one is the most
[54:26]
formal
[54:27]
which is a series of 10 foot wide
[54:29]
sidewalks which take you directly in
[54:31]
very straight lines
[54:32]
from the bus or the parent drop off
[54:34]
directly to the front door
[54:36]
so that's a very clear formal
[54:37]
distinction to make sure that those kids
[54:39]
are able to move in and out
[54:41]
of their circulation sequence
[54:43]
appropriately the second
[54:45]
is a series of five foot sidewalks which
[54:48]
are a little bit more playful and
[54:49]
meandering
[54:50]
and they're intended to create to
[54:52]
connect to both the safe routes to
[54:54]
school system
[54:55]
to be part of the uh bicycle circulation
[54:58]
path that is ultimately envisioned for
[54:59]
the plan
[55:00]
of the town and it's a little bit more
[55:03]
uh
[55:04]
meandering through the site to
[55:05]
differentiate itself from that more
[55:07]
formal
[55:07]
walkway and we also talk about a even
[55:10]
less a third level down
[55:12]
of of walkway pathways which is more of
[55:14]
a nature trail kind of pathway
[55:17]
identified in these dots here and what's
[55:20]
new in the diagram here
[55:21]
is we started to envision how we might
[55:24]
now connect our school
[55:26]
to that fishing creek trailway that will
[55:29]
one day connect us all together and we
[55:32]
identify two different variants of that
[55:34]
connection
[55:35]
one is we'd like to take advantage of
[55:37]
that trailhead
[55:38]
in our learning environment so in this
[55:41]
location where it's directly adjacent to
[55:43]
our front plaza and learning and outdoor
[55:45]
learning
[55:45]
environment we'd like to develop that
[55:47]
trailhead as an outdoor classroom
[55:49]
and a classroom in which students can
[55:51]
learn about
[55:52]
stormwater management and how it affects
[55:54]
the bay and how it affects their local
[55:56]
ecology
[55:57]
also perhaps learn about what they're
[55:59]
going to see as they walk down that
[56:01]
trail and enjoy
[56:02]
the experience and learn about their
[56:05]
direct ecology and environment so
[56:06]
creating that outdoor classroom
[56:08]
becomes part of our pedagogy as well as
[56:11]
part of our trail head connection
[56:14]
at the other end of our trail we'd like
[56:15]
to look at some sort of marker
[56:18]
whether it be a trail rules or something
[56:20]
playful or a sensory trail or something
[56:22]
that identifies that you are now
[56:24]
entering that walkway down to uh fishing
[56:27]
creek and what you might learn
[56:29]
along the way as you take that walk
[56:31]
whether you're part of our school
[56:33]
or just a community member who's taking
[56:34]
that walk and connecting the two pieces
[56:36]
so we're just now beginning to explore
[56:38]
how we might connect that in
[56:40]
a more friendly or pedestrian way this
[56:43]
school itself will also provide
[56:45]
additional amenity to the town in
[56:48]
addition to being a great school
[56:49]
environment
[56:50]
if you know the teachers and the
[56:51]
principal and and the folks who
[56:55]
are so passionately involved in this
[56:56]
school you know the great service they
[56:58]
already provide
[56:59]
to their students in addition we want to
[57:02]
provide
[57:02]
a public function to the building itself
[57:04]
as well
[57:05]
and the gym is being designed to be
[57:07]
oversized to accommodate community use
[57:10]
in the gymnasium you can see in this top
[57:13]
right diagram the size of the existing
[57:15]
gym
[57:15]
and the size of the new gym which will
[57:17]
be a full sized
[57:18]
basketball court gym accommodated there will also be a community office
[57:25]
and a community
[57:26]
storage room to support any community
[57:28]
functions that occur within that gym
[57:30]
and this public area of the building is
[57:32]
designed such that it can be closed off
[57:34]
from the existing school so that the the
[57:37]
school in the evening is completely
[57:39]
secure from what will essentially
[57:40]
function as a community center for
[57:42]
evening and off-hour use
[57:45]
another opportunity that the school has
[57:47]
for community use
[57:48]
is this cafeteria space whether it's for
[57:51]
homeowners association meetings
[57:53]
community presentations
[57:54]
or performances
[57:57]
it's designed in such a way that the
[57:59]
stage addresses the cafeteria in this
[58:01]
trapezoidal shape
[58:03]
it really works two ways one for a
[58:05]
smaller audience
[58:06]
in the trapezoid it really provides
[58:08]
ideal acoustic
[58:10]
ideal view lines for evening use or
[58:13]
performances
[58:15]
but we're also planning to incorporate a
[58:17]
folding partition which will now
[58:18]
open that up to the gymnasium allowing
[58:21]
for extremely large much larger group
[58:23]
activities so whether it's a holiday
[58:26]
concert
[58:26]
or a a rented out
[58:30]
or or borrowed out for public use for a performance or an event
[58:34]
this we hope that this will become a
[58:36]
great venue and community amenity
[58:38]
uh much beyond just the school's use of
[58:41]
the of the facility
[58:44]
uh imbalancing our project with the
[58:46]
environment
[58:47]
is a critical focal point of our project
[58:49]
as well
[58:50]
our project will be built to a lead
[58:52]
silver standard
[58:54]
when completed and seen here just some
[58:56]
of the
[58:57]
implementation that you'll see from the
[58:59]
outside of the building
[59:00]
of how we're starting to address those
[59:02]
components
[59:03]
one is our solar orientation uh being
[59:06]
east to west we get ideal
[59:08]
solar orientation we we have one broad
[59:10]
south face and one broad north face so
[59:12]
we can control
[59:13]
solar heat gain and lighting but the
[59:15]
other nice thing about
[59:17]
identifying our building in this uh
[59:19]
arrangement
[59:20]
is that the shadow lines with with our
[59:22]
building facing east west are all onto
[59:24]
our site
[59:25]
a lot of times when a building is built
[59:27]
the shadow it casts on its neighbors
[59:29]
can be an issue uh for for impact to the
[59:33]
neighbors
[59:34]
uh being that that our neighbors are
[59:36]
mostly to the south of us we really have
[59:38]
no opportunity to cast a shadow on any
[59:40]
of them
[59:41]
also the stormwater management which is
[59:43]
the concept is currently in
[59:44]
for how we're addressing that across the
[59:47]
site is not only something that we can
[59:48]
make a very beautiful amenity across the
[59:51]
site
[59:51]
we also anticipate using it as you see
[59:53]
here in our bottom left image
[59:55]
as part of our learning environment and
[59:57]
really
[59:59]
conveying the idea of my environmental
[1:00:01]
stewardship to our students
[1:00:03]
uh particularly when they get to see the
[1:00:06]
result of that stewardship directly on
[1:00:07]
their local environment
[1:00:09]
is was a really strong uh discussion
[1:00:12]
point among our stakeholder group
[1:00:14]
in the elevations we also took
[1:00:16]
significant measures to
[1:00:18]
make sure that our project is consistent
[1:00:20]
with the architecture and ideals of the
[1:00:23]
region and the town but also break the
[1:00:25]
scale down of the building
[1:00:27]
understanding that we're in a medium
[1:00:29]
density residential zone
[1:00:30]
we take a number of architectural moves
[1:00:32]
to break the massing of our building
[1:00:34]
down
[1:00:35]
majority of our building the east side
[1:00:37]
and the west side will not be
[1:00:39]
above the 35 foot minimum but despite
[1:00:42]
that
[1:00:43]
understanding that we're putting a
[1:00:44]
school in a community we took measures
[1:00:46]
to break down the building by
[1:00:48]
changing the facades and planes so that
[1:00:50]
we get shadow lines
[1:00:51]
and break down the massing change of
[1:00:53]
materials to break down that massing as
[1:00:55]
well
[1:00:56]
we also implement a design strategy that
[1:00:59]
we call local symmetry
[1:01:00]
so rather but and what that means is
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rather than designing
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a building where all the windows are
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equally spaced across the entire facade
[1:01:08]
that would make this entire facade feel
[1:01:10]
like one big piece
[1:01:12]
by designing windows and in groupings so
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that they're
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in smaller groupings that you identify
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as separate little pieces
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that is what we refer to as a local
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symmetry and starts to break that facade
[1:01:24]
down even further so our idea is to
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really
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articulate the building to make the
[1:01:29]
scale of the building consistent with
[1:01:30]
the scale of the community it's in
[1:01:33]
uh from a design standpoint that then
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starts to
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migrate into the materiality of the
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building and how that building looks and
[1:01:40]
addresses
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both the community as well as you know
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present the appropriate front
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uh to people arriving at the school
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and understanding that this is a
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state-of-the-art
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21st century learning environment and
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i'll give you just a little insight on
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two different options that we're playing
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with right now in that materiality
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one is what we call our landscape
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palette it's one that
[1:02:04]
looks to have our building meld into the
[1:02:06]
landscape a little bit
[1:02:08]
very and not contrast with the landscape
[1:02:10]
so natural materials between the
[1:02:12]
masonry's and the and the woods and
[1:02:14]
the metal uh roofing perhaps or stone
[1:02:17]
and and wood pallets are really what
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we're trying to look at
[1:02:21]
in the landscape palette and likewise we
[1:02:24]
are looking
[1:02:24]
at another palette that we're calling
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the lighthouse palette and this is one
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that
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starts to employ the the nautical
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vernacular
[1:02:32]
that is so consistent throughout the
[1:02:34]
downtown of chesapeake beach
[1:02:36]
in our architectural as well both in the massing and the shape of our
[1:02:40]
building but also in the materiality
[1:02:42]
with the standing seams the vertical uh
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lines through the building that that
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connotate that vertical uh siding
[1:02:49]
components
[1:02:50]
so a lot is going into developing our
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design in such a way that it is
[1:02:54]
consistent with the architecture
[1:02:56]
and the feel of the of the community
[1:02:59]
um so with that i'm going to end the
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kind of the formal presentation
[1:03:04]
since we are looking at the special
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exception first i'll conclude
[1:03:08]
this part with just how we address the
[1:03:10]
six requirements of the special
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exception
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um one is that i believe we believe that
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as the applicant that the project will
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not be detrimental or endangered to the
[1:03:20]
public
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uh hopefully i was able to convey how
[1:03:23]
far we went to really
[1:03:25]
articulate the the safety on site and
[1:03:28]
the safety and connections to the
[1:03:30]
ultimate safe routes to school project
[1:03:32]
uh our design is striving to be
[1:03:34]
harmonious with the regional and town
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character both in its massing
[1:03:38]
its materiality and the way we're
[1:03:40]
addressing the site of the town
[1:03:42]
of the of our the way we're addressing
[1:03:44]
that green space
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uh to the to the town itself uh we we
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don't think we'll be an impedance to the
[1:03:50]
development of json properties
[1:03:52]
in fact all the adjacent properties are
[1:03:54]
already developed
[1:03:56]
uh we don't believe also as chris
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indicated that we will have an adverse
[1:04:00]
impact to local public facilities in
[1:04:03]
fact
[1:04:04]
i'm hoping that we will provide a public
[1:04:06]
amenity to the community at large
[1:04:09]
and great effort was taken to evaluate
[1:04:11]
the pedestrian and vehicle traffic
[1:04:13]
uh both in immediate implementation and
[1:04:15]
how we
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uh articulate that through our site and
[1:04:19]
of course to the ultimate
[1:04:20]
uh goal with in that 2040 vision once
[1:04:23]
the safe routes to school project
[1:04:24]
and the interconnected town is developed
[1:04:27]
we hope to just literally click in right
[1:04:29]
to that plan
[1:04:30]
when it's ultimately envisioned and seen
[1:04:33]
through
[1:04:34]
so also having implemented the goals of
[1:04:36]
the town's 2040 vision
[1:04:38]
and the fact that this is our always
[1:04:40]
been a school and plan to be a school
[1:04:42]
we hope that you find that the project
[1:04:44]
is consistent with that comprehensive
[1:04:46]
plan as well
[1:04:47]
uh so in conclusion those are the six
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criteria of the special exception
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which uh we're happy to answer any
[1:04:54]
questions and take any comments that you
[1:04:56]
may have
[1:04:57]
appreciate your time this evening
[1:05:05]
are there any questions from the board
[1:05:20]
i do have one question uh this is jody
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hunstar um i
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i'm wondering about the word uh existing
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in your plans does does something like
[1:05:29]
existing tennis courts mean that it is
[1:05:31]
going to be untouched by your uh project
[1:05:35]
or is that just a conceptual thing that
[1:05:37]
the tennis courts will
[1:05:38]
stay in the right place like are you
[1:05:40]
planning on making any modifications or
[1:05:42]
changes there
[1:05:43]
we're not and i think that is maintained
[1:05:45]
right now by parks and recs not the
[1:05:47]
school system
[1:05:48]
so our intention is to leave that in its
[1:05:50]
current condition thank you
[1:05:56]
mr jacobiak do you have any questions
[1:06:00]
of the applicant
[1:06:10]
you're muted chris
[1:06:13]
i'm sorry and thank you whoever said
[1:06:15]
that i appreciate that um
[1:06:19]
yes i have one question and i also have
[1:06:21]
two
[1:06:22]
things i'd like to mention uh first is
[1:06:25]
the the applicant referred to rand
[1:06:28]
referred to the
[1:06:29]
2040 vision what that
[1:06:33]
is is a vision
[1:06:36]
statement that the planning commission
[1:06:39]
has put together
[1:06:40]
as part of the current comprehensive
[1:06:43]
planning process
[1:06:45]
it reflects what the planning commission
[1:06:47]
is is um
[1:06:48]
as understood as the um
[1:06:53]
the priorities of the town and it's it's
[1:06:55]
drafted in a way to encompass
[1:06:57]
the results of a series of public
[1:06:59]
meetings and a survey that
[1:07:00]
the planning commission conducted so
[1:07:03]
it's not official yet because it hasn't
[1:07:05]
been adopted
[1:07:06]
it would be adopted when the new
[1:07:08]
comprehensive plan gets adopted
[1:07:10]
of course it may change it may be
[1:07:12]
refined over time
[1:07:14]
and it's a draft right now but to date
[1:07:16]
it really does
[1:07:17]
accurately reflect where the town uh
[1:07:21]
citizens are thinking when they engage
[1:07:24]
with the planning commission
[1:07:26]
and candidly it's not a huge departure
[1:07:29]
from
[1:07:29]
the current comprehensive plan so iran
[1:07:32]
is spot on and i it does appear that this project does
[1:07:37]
really seek to reflect those um
[1:07:40]
those elements in that vision
[1:07:44]
second the um planning commission met on
[1:07:46]
this project
[1:07:47]
because the zoning ordinance says that
[1:07:50]
the board of appeals
[1:07:51]
refers special exceptions to the
[1:07:54]
planning commission
[1:07:55]
for a recommendation and the planning
[1:07:58]
commission
[1:07:59]
did review this two weeks ago and they
[1:08:01]
did make a recommendation
[1:08:03]
and their recommendation was that the
[1:08:05]
board of appeals approved
[1:08:07]
this special exception um and i'll give
[1:08:11]
you the recommendation on the variance
[1:08:13]
uh later the last thing i i
[1:08:16]
would just ask the applicant and
[1:08:18]
specifically ran
[1:08:19]
iran could you uh just for the record
[1:08:22]
and for the
[1:08:23]
board's benefit explain who you are as
[1:08:26]
an architect
[1:08:27]
what your degree is and uh your
[1:08:30]
professional qualifications because i
[1:08:32]
think it helps round out the discussion
[1:08:34]
and adds a context for your testimony
[1:08:38]
certainly so my name is ron ilkovich i i
[1:08:41]
represent
[1:08:42]
calvary county public schools is my
[1:08:43]
client i'm an architect
[1:08:45]
my firm is small enamored ilkovich
[1:08:47]
architects and i'm principal
[1:08:48]
and president of that firm but
[1:08:52]
really and i appreciate you bringing
[1:08:53]
that up i i represent
[1:08:55]
not only the school system but the
[1:08:57]
stakeholder advisory group that really
[1:09:00]
participated in this process uh because
[1:09:02]
it is a collaborative process
[1:09:04]
uh certainly what i would dream up in my
[1:09:06]
bubble is very different than what gets
[1:09:08]
worked out together when we all
[1:09:10]
collaborate my personal
[1:09:12]
uh cv i i'm
[1:09:15]
local to the area i grew up here in
[1:09:17]
state of maryland
[1:09:18]
montgomery county i went to school at
[1:09:21]
the university of maryland for my
[1:09:22]
undergrad
[1:09:23]
achieved my bachelor's of science last
[1:09:26]
century
[1:09:27]
and my masters of architecture as well
[1:09:29]
from the university of maryland
[1:09:31]
in 1998. i've been
[1:09:34]
at this position and i've been in this
[1:09:37]
firm for 24 years
[1:09:38]
this month in my current firm
[1:09:42]
and i've been principal of the firm for
[1:09:44]
12 years
[1:09:45]
so those are my personal background
[1:09:48]
story
[1:09:50]
i've been working with calvert county
[1:09:52]
public schools
[1:09:53]
since 1996 my first project that i did
[1:09:56]
with calvary county public schools
[1:09:58]
was dow elementary school and i've had
[1:10:00]
the great pleasure to work with calvert
[1:10:03]
county public schools
[1:10:04]
pretty consistently ever since then and
[1:10:06]
it's been just a great relationship
[1:10:08]
uh and and one that i'm and has produced
[1:10:11]
projects
[1:10:12]
like dale elementary school like calvert
[1:10:14]
high school like the vocational center
[1:10:16]
uh that i i consider cornerstones of my
[1:10:20]
career and i'm extremely proud of so
[1:10:23]
i've long since appreciated working in
[1:10:25]
calvert county
[1:10:26]
and i also appreciate the seafood to be
[1:10:28]
quite honest
[1:10:34]
no further questions from me uh
[1:10:38]
okay um
[1:10:42]
now we'll hear from the public sharon
[1:10:45]
has anyone signed up to speak
[1:10:48]
on the uh no
[1:10:56]
okay uh is there anyone on this call
[1:10:59]
that would like to speak on this matter
[1:11:01]
and ask questions of the applicant
[1:11:04]
and so now is your time
[1:11:07]
yes this is mike schissler principal of
[1:11:09]
the school i i just want to share as
[1:11:11]
ron's alluded to several times
[1:11:13]
this has been a multi-year process
[1:11:15]
getting to this point and i want to say uh i continue to be amazed
[1:11:20]
at what ron and his firm have done
[1:11:23]
with the plans and with the ideas that
[1:11:25]
they've collected from us
[1:11:27]
uh and they continue to uh
[1:11:30]
improve on them i mean just tonight he
[1:11:32]
shared again with you ideas
[1:11:34]
that they took from the planning and
[1:11:35]
zoning hearing that we had a few weeks
[1:11:37]
ago
[1:11:38]
and have incorporated them uh into the concept especially the
[1:11:42]
connection to the fishing creek trail
[1:11:45]
and i just want to say for for
[1:11:46]
everyone's benefit again just uh
[1:11:48]
for a point of transparency um when
[1:11:51]
mayor wall got the trail um you know the
[1:11:54]
idea started with bruce wall and it took
[1:11:56]
10 years to get there
[1:11:57]
that we still have a ways to go um the
[1:12:00]
school system can
[1:12:01]
certainly work what's on its property
[1:12:03]
and work on improving a trail
[1:12:06]
but uh the the town or the whomever is
[1:12:08]
going to follow up with the trail
[1:12:10]
is going to have to you know build
[1:12:11]
another access across fishing greeks and
[1:12:13]
have to build
[1:12:14]
um a boardwalk through the marsh or
[1:12:16]
around the marsh
[1:12:17]
to connect with our school property in
[1:12:19]
so those are several steps that um
[1:12:21]
have to be done before we do make that
[1:12:23]
connection so
[1:12:24]
once this the school is finished in the
[1:12:26]
summer of 23 doesn't mean that that
[1:12:28]
trail connection is going to be finished
[1:12:30]
although it would be you know great that
[1:12:32]
it's in the pipeline with other efforts from other groups and
[1:12:35]
committees so
[1:12:36]
but again i want to thank dr spencer and
[1:12:39]
all your
[1:12:40]
appeal board members tonight and again i
[1:12:43]
just want to say that
[1:12:44]
ron and company have done a fantastic
[1:12:46]
job in our opinion
[1:12:49]
thank you thank you
[1:12:56]
okay does the applicant have any
[1:12:59]
cross-examination of any speaker
[1:13:03]
no ma'am if noah
[1:13:06]
closed this part of the meeting and now
[1:13:08]
we will turn our attention
[1:13:11]
uh to the variance let's start again
[1:13:15]
with mr
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jacobia
[1:13:21]
i can be very brief now because i think
[1:13:24]
there's a
[1:13:25]
nice presentation already of the
[1:13:26]
building um
[1:13:28]
but the applicant is requesting a
[1:13:32]
23 foot variance
[1:13:36]
to the 35 foot
[1:13:40]
maximum height standard in order to make
[1:13:43]
the building
[1:13:44]
58 feet tall so um
[1:13:48]
currently the zoning ordinance caps
[1:13:49]
building height at 35 feet
[1:13:52]
in the residential medium density zone
[1:13:55]
buildings can exceed 35 feet
[1:13:57]
well the roofs can pop out over 35 feet
[1:14:00]
but
[1:14:01]
essentially it's a 35 foot maximum
[1:14:04]
height
[1:14:05]
the applicant is proposing a portion of
[1:14:08]
the building to
[1:14:09]
go 23 feet higher than that so that
[1:14:13]
the total maximum height will be 58 feet
[1:14:17]
and i believe i've got that right so um
[1:14:19]
that's the request um and you remember that uh
[1:14:25]
fred sussman the attorney has reviewed
[1:14:27]
with you the standards for granting a
[1:14:29]
variance
[1:14:31]
and the variance standards are
[1:14:33]
essentially
[1:14:34]
related to the existing site
[1:14:39]
and the impact of the variants on adjoining properties so
[1:14:47]
what the applicant has to demonstrate is
[1:14:49]
that
[1:14:50]
there's something unique about this
[1:14:52]
property the physical
[1:14:54]
aspects of this property that require
[1:14:56]
them
[1:14:57]
to exceed the maximum height limitation
[1:15:01]
you simply can't come to the board of
[1:15:02]
appeals and ask for a variance just
[1:15:04]
because you want one
[1:15:06]
you have to point to a physical
[1:15:08]
condition
[1:15:09]
that limits your ability to comply with
[1:15:13]
the strict
[1:15:14]
code right and uh as a zoning
[1:15:16]
administrator or
[1:15:18]
as the planning commission we have to
[1:15:19]
apply the code strictly
[1:15:21]
but an applicant come can come to you
[1:15:24]
and ask for relief and
[1:15:28]
i i go through this because i know most
[1:15:30]
of the members right now are relatively
[1:15:31]
new
[1:15:32]
on the board of appeals and you haven't
[1:15:33]
seen many variances
[1:15:35]
but the applicant can come to you and
[1:15:37]
ask for relief and they have to point to
[1:15:39]
something unique about their property
[1:15:41]
that suggests
[1:15:42]
they can't comply with the standard um
[1:15:45]
so i think what i'm doing is shaping the
[1:15:47]
testimony that i think ran has to
[1:15:49]
provide you
[1:15:50]
uh he's gonna probably talk about the size of the lot the
[1:15:53]
presence of the existing school the uh
[1:15:57]
conditions of the environment like steep
[1:15:59]
slopes and wetland buffers and the
[1:16:00]
forest buffer
[1:16:02]
and and the fact that there's not much
[1:16:03]
land left to build on and
[1:16:06]
as a result variance is requested so you
[1:16:09]
can build it up a little higher and the
[1:16:10]
kids can continue to go to school
[1:16:12]
which is pretty important um those are
[1:16:14]
the essential things
[1:16:16]
the last thing is that the applicant has
[1:16:18]
to say that
[1:16:21]
he would experience a hardship if you
[1:16:24]
couldn't get this variance
[1:16:26]
and of course you could imagine what a
[1:16:28]
hardship might be that the applicant
[1:16:29]
would experience the the lot is such
[1:16:31]
that
[1:16:32]
physical conditions prevent you from
[1:16:34]
building uh
[1:16:36]
a low building and as a result um
[1:16:40]
there's a hardship that's felt in this
[1:16:41]
case the hardship may be public
[1:16:44]
rather than just simply private in the
[1:16:46]
sense that
[1:16:47]
uh a school's uh an essential element of
[1:16:50]
the community and certainly supported by
[1:16:52]
the community and
[1:16:53]
while in today's world
[1:16:57]
we're all learning from home at some
[1:16:59]
point the kids are going to go back to
[1:17:01]
school
[1:17:01]
and they need a place to study and learn
[1:17:03]
in
[1:17:04]
and missing that opportunity will
[1:17:07]
certainly provide a hardship
[1:17:09]
to the residents of chesapeake beach so
[1:17:12]
i just summarized quickly the six seven
[1:17:15]
standards that the variance
[1:17:17]
requires and um and that dr spencer
[1:17:24]
concludes my my quick summary unless the
[1:17:27]
board members have any questions
[1:17:33]
okay if there are
[1:17:37]
no more questions
[1:17:41]
i will close the discussion
[1:17:46]
and the board will go into deliberation
[1:17:48]
and decide quote
[1:17:51]
madam chair madam chair fred sussman
[1:17:54]
the applicant has to make his
[1:17:55]
presentation regarding the variance
[1:17:59]
thanks so
[1:18:04]
i'll i'll in in my uh
[1:18:08]
in my discussion on the variance i'll
[1:18:09]
simply just address the five
[1:18:11]
points that are the points of
[1:18:12]
deliberation that were
[1:18:14]
presented at the beginning of the
[1:18:16]
meeting
[1:18:18]
as well as kind of summarized in chris's
[1:18:21]
presentation earlier
[1:18:23]
one is addressing item one i believe our
[1:18:27]
variance is in harmony with its
[1:18:28]
surroundings
[1:18:29]
uh we hope to improve the public welfare
[1:18:32]
in town just with the redevelopment of
[1:18:33]
the school but also with the re
[1:18:35]
development of the site and we hope we
[1:18:38]
were able to demonstrate that
[1:18:40]
it's consistent with that town vision
[1:18:42]
and the town ideals and the architecture
[1:18:45]
of the town
[1:18:47]
number two it's the continued use of the
[1:18:49]
site of the if
[1:18:51]
number two is about the use permitted by
[1:18:54]
the zoning
[1:18:55]
and with the special exception that we
[1:18:57]
were requesting earlier this evening
[1:18:59]
that is an acceptable use uh item number
[1:19:02]
three
[1:19:03]
is the special circumstances and the
[1:19:05]
site limitations and i've brought that
[1:19:07]
slide again up on the screen
[1:19:08]
uh to just reiterate the the limited
[1:19:12]
area of the site that's available for
[1:19:14]
construction
[1:19:16]
between the steep soap the buffer
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setbacks the wetlands
[1:19:20]
and the existing school that must be
[1:19:21]
retained in operation during our
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construction process
[1:19:25]
uh those are the special circumstances
[1:19:27]
and the physical limitations of the site
[1:19:30]
the hardship of course is at the 35 feet
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which is really
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intended for residential construction
[1:19:36]
because this is the medium density
[1:19:38]
residential zone
[1:19:39]
really doesn't address the needs of a
[1:19:41]
multi-story elementary school
[1:19:43]
and the footprint that's available for
[1:19:45]
us construction
[1:19:47]
on because of those site limitations
[1:19:49]
really requires us
[1:19:51]
to go to a multi-story elementary school
[1:19:53]
and particularly in this case to a
[1:19:54]
three-story elementary school
[1:19:56]
to accommodate the program the hardship
[1:19:59]
of course
[1:20:00]
is that if we can't build this building
[1:20:02]
vertically
[1:20:03]
we cannot accommodate the quantity of
[1:20:05]
spaces in classrooms and therefore not
[1:20:07]
can accommodate the capacity uh
[1:20:10]
of that the building requires to serve
[1:20:13]
the needs of the population the students in and
[1:20:15]
around the town of chesapeake beach
[1:20:18]
so that that is really our hardship that
[1:20:20]
we can't meet the
[1:20:21]
needs so to address item number five we
[1:20:24]
hope you find our variance
[1:20:26]
requests as reasonable and of course
[1:20:28]
necessary to accomplish the goals of our
[1:20:30]
project
[1:20:31]
so just in summary that's the the
[1:20:33]
request that we're making
[1:20:35]
uh directly related to the five
[1:20:37]
questions
[1:20:38]
that we've been asked to answer for that
[1:20:50]
this is the second time that i've
[1:20:53]
watched this presentation um
[1:20:56]
and i'm really very impressed
[1:21:01]
but that's a personal note i need to now
[1:21:03]
take it back to the board
[1:21:05]
and we need to deliberate uh so
[1:21:12]
um
[1:21:15]
i think that you need to uh see whether
[1:21:18]
any of the board members or mr jacobiac
[1:21:20]
have any questions uh for the applicant
[1:21:24]
and also if there are any members of the
[1:21:26]
public who would
[1:21:27]
like to speak on this part of the
[1:21:29]
application
[1:21:32]
okay we'll do
[1:21:36]
mr yakubiak do you have any comments
[1:21:44]
yes the only one i wanted to mention
[1:21:46]
that the planning commission offered a
[1:21:48]
recommendation on the variants as well
[1:21:50]
even though they they weren't required
[1:21:52]
to by the ordinance they did
[1:21:54]
recommend approval of the variants they
[1:21:57]
made that part of their motion
[1:21:59]
when they approved this special when
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they recommended the special exception
[1:22:04]
and that's all i have to comment on
[1:22:09]
anyone else
[1:22:12]
madam chair uh dave ferguson here i
[1:22:15]
would
[1:22:16]
just like to ask whether any of the
[1:22:19]
residents
[1:22:20]
in that neighborhood have expressed
[1:22:22]
concern about the height
[1:22:37]
well um i can take and take a stab at
[1:22:40]
that
[1:22:40]
i've not heard anything and we haven't
[1:22:42]
received any comments
[1:22:44]
um in the mail or phone calls at the
[1:22:47]
town hall as far as i know
[1:22:49]
certainly sharon could uh help answer
[1:22:52]
that question too
[1:22:53]
but typically i would hear about it um
[1:22:55]
and the property has been posted
[1:22:58]
extensively so sharon
[1:23:02]
yeah no there's been no comment good
[1:23:08]
uh this is sushita warner with calvert
[1:23:10]
county schools if i may add
[1:23:12]
um we made the presentation
[1:23:16]
initially to the board of education
[1:23:20]
goodness it's probably been a little bit
[1:23:22]
over a year ago
[1:23:24]
uh when we went about uh embarking on a
[1:23:27]
feasibility study
[1:23:29]
and we were looking at a variety of
[1:23:31]
options
[1:23:32]
for beach elementary school and at the
[1:23:35]
time
[1:23:36]
the three-story option was certainly one
[1:23:39]
of the items
[1:23:40]
or one of the schemes that was presented
[1:23:44]
out in the public and it was covered in
[1:23:46]
the local papers a long time
[1:23:48]
ago and we have heard nothing but
[1:23:50]
positive comments so i just wanted to
[1:23:52]
put that out there
[1:23:53]
for everybody great
[1:24:01]
anyone okay
[1:24:04]
um madame chairman this is jan rutkay um
[1:24:07]
i have a question regarding
[1:24:10]
the vision for the town that includes
[1:24:14]
enhanced walkability and i'm impressed with the fact that ran
[1:24:21]
has already uh offered up several ideas
[1:24:25]
as to how the school property might
[1:24:27]
potentially
[1:24:28]
connect to what will be a future
[1:24:32]
walkway and board wastes and boardwalk
[1:24:35]
system
[1:24:37]
i think my question might be to chris
[1:24:40]
perhaps
[1:24:41]
is that since this is important to the
[1:24:44]
town
[1:24:45]
um is this something ran
[1:24:48]
is this something that we have your
[1:24:51]
commitment
[1:24:52]
on doing
[1:24:55]
i mean is it actually it seems like it's tentative at this point maybe i'm
[1:25:00]
wrong
[1:25:01]
about that i mean the sidewalk system
[1:25:04]
that we're proposing
[1:25:05]
is part of our design
[1:25:08]
okay so so depending upon how you
[1:25:12]
choose to eventually at some point in
[1:25:16]
the future connect the school ground
[1:25:18]
uh with uh walkways boardwalks and that
[1:25:21]
sort of thing
[1:25:22]
you're committed that that will be a
[1:25:23]
part of your plan correct so
[1:25:26]
a number of components one is the safe
[1:25:29]
walks to schools
[1:25:30]
project our project connects sidewalks
[1:25:33]
to every corner
[1:25:35]
um i think chris also highlighted his
[1:25:38]
report how we're also planning
[1:25:39]
crosswalks
[1:25:40]
at the major intersection of bayside and
[1:25:42]
old bayside to connect to the
[1:25:44]
interconnected town sidewalk system uh
[1:25:47]
and the components that i spoke of
[1:25:48]
earlier of the connection down to
[1:25:50]
fishing creek
[1:25:51]
we really want to make that gateway and
[1:25:54]
then connect that
[1:25:55]
at a future time great okay that was
[1:25:58]
uh i'm a member of the walkability
[1:26:00]
committee and that was something that
[1:26:02]
was of uh tremendous focus and interest so
[1:26:06]
good thank you and and jan if i can just
[1:26:10]
to build on that point
[1:26:11]
um it would be extremely difficult
[1:26:14]
within the scope of
[1:26:15]
the school's project and budget to lay
[1:26:18]
out
[1:26:19]
the specific alignment for an extension
[1:26:22]
to fishing creek trail
[1:26:24]
at this point and being involved
[1:26:29]
15 years ago in the first trail linkage
[1:26:32]
that we built
[1:26:34]
that process is quite extensive and
[1:26:36]
involves the
[1:26:38]
many state agencies um and uh
[1:26:41]
it will take a lot of time and uh the
[1:26:43]
town needs to know
[1:26:44]
where the alignment is going to be where
[1:26:46]
we'll enter uh
[1:26:47]
this neighborhood if you will before we
[1:26:50]
could even ask the school
[1:26:51]
uh right but they have indicated to work
[1:26:54]
with us and would go back to planning
[1:26:56]
commission we'll have a firmer idea
[1:26:57]
about
[1:26:58]
roughly where those connections were
[1:27:00]
going to be and we even heard from the
[1:27:01]
principal tonight
[1:27:03]
um about the general support for the
[1:27:06]
interconnection here and that's that's
[1:27:08]
so uh gratifying
[1:27:10]
and uh it's nice to see this long-term
[1:27:12]
plan coming to fruition
[1:27:13]
slowly but surely over time
[1:27:17]
thank you chris uh madam chair if i made
[1:27:20]
this is fred sussman again
[1:27:24]
uh i think that we should make sure that
[1:27:27]
the applicant
[1:27:28]
offered for the record the all the
[1:27:31]
application materials and supporting
[1:27:33]
documents
[1:27:34]
they've been referred to and they've
[1:27:36]
been provided to
[1:27:37]
the various commission members but i
[1:27:39]
think we should have on the record
[1:27:41]
uh a request to have those application
[1:27:44]
materials made
[1:27:45]
a part of the record so uh
[1:27:48]
mr ilkovitz if you would make that
[1:27:50]
profit
[1:27:53]
uh yes absolutely
[1:27:58]
sharon
[1:28:00]
you're still with us correct
[1:28:08]
yes she is i believe she might be muted
[1:28:10]
let me just
[1:28:13]
no i'm yeah
[1:28:18]
yes i'll entered into the record the
[1:28:21]
application
[1:28:22]
and the supporting document thank you
[1:28:25]
sharon
[1:28:27]
uh-huh thanks fred
[1:28:32]
is there anything else before we
[1:28:35]
go into our deliberation
[1:28:46]
okay madam chair may i before you go to
[1:28:50]
deliberations
[1:28:53]
this is fred sussman yes
[1:28:56]
okay uh we've uh dealt with a number of
[1:29:00]
applications before together
[1:29:02]
in uh i don't know if we had any of the
[1:29:04]
past year but certainly within
[1:29:06]
the past two years and the way we've
[1:29:08]
handled them
[1:29:09]
is that the board what it deliberates
[1:29:12]
uh may come to a tentative decision
[1:29:16]
and makes a motion directing or
[1:29:19]
requesting
[1:29:20]
me as the board's attorney to prepare a
[1:29:23]
resolution
[1:29:24]
uh to reflect the board decision i
[1:29:27]
do that and it comes back to you as a
[1:29:30]
board
[1:29:31]
for uh review and final approval
[1:29:34]
so i would recommend that whatever way
[1:29:37]
the board ultimately decides to want to
[1:29:39]
go on
[1:29:39]
these two applications then we follow
[1:29:41]
the same process
[1:29:43]
that the motion be that the attorney be
[1:29:46]
directed or requested
[1:29:47]
to prepare a resolution to do x y and z
[1:29:57]
thank you
[1:30:08]
can i hear the board's opinion
[1:30:12]
this is the way that we've been doing it
[1:30:14]
and i recommend that we do now
[1:30:16]
but i'd like to hear from the board
[1:30:19]
because we have new members on now
[1:30:29]
board members dave ferguson here i agree
[1:30:33]
with
[1:30:34]
the process but in the past we've had to
[1:30:37]
meet in purple
[1:30:38]
in person uh i would recommend that we
[1:30:41]
instead do another virtual meeting or
[1:30:45]
telephone conference to discuss
[1:30:48]
your resolution
[1:30:51]
and and then we could each
[1:30:54]
come by town hall individually and sign
[1:30:58]
it
[1:31:00]
i don't have any problem with that but
[1:31:02]
on the board
[1:31:04]
uh have to consider the resolution
[1:31:07]
in a uh in a public meeting and
[1:31:11]
it could certainly be a virtual meeting
[1:31:13]
as we're doing here today
[1:31:15]
or it could be a meeting done by
[1:31:16]
teleconference as long as proper notice
[1:31:19]
is given
[1:31:20]
uh so i don't have any uh issue with
[1:31:22]
what you're
[1:31:23]
suggesting uh but we were doing this uh
[1:31:25]
a year or two ago
[1:31:26]
there was no need for virtual meetings
[1:31:28]
we were actually meeting in person
[1:31:31]
so in today's environment certainly for
[1:31:33]
the foreseeable future
[1:31:35]
i think business is going to continue to
[1:31:37]
be conducted
[1:31:38]
the way we're doing it today no
[1:31:41]
go ahead go ahead and eat
[1:31:45]
well well i think what we need to agree
[1:31:48]
to
[1:31:48]
hear um
[1:31:50]
[Music]
[1:31:52]
is the resolution is preparation of the
[1:31:55]
resolution
[1:31:57]
um and we can talk later about how
[1:32:02]
um we follow up with what has to be done
[1:32:06]
what's your opinion on the resolution
[1:32:08]
again i'm in agreement with david
[1:32:14]
out well with fred sorry
[1:32:21]
to have fred our attorney prepare
[1:32:25]
a resolution and then we
[1:32:28]
decide how we will sign it
[1:32:32]
given today's environment
[1:32:38]
each of us went to the
[1:32:43]
town hall to sign
[1:32:46]
uh that would be an issue how do we
[1:32:51]
handle that
[1:32:56]
yes i could always do a docusign
[1:33:01]
um and send it to each one assigned that
[1:33:05]
way
[1:33:06]
okay which i have done
[1:33:11]
in this covet uh
[1:33:14]
us being home and doing meetings
[1:33:17]
virtually
[1:33:18]
through the council i have done through
[1:33:21]
the docusign for them to sign
[1:33:24]
documents
[1:33:27]
dr spencer i like that idea because uh
[1:33:30]
it may reduce the time it takes to get
[1:33:33]
this
[1:33:34]
decision official uh and anything we can
[1:33:36]
do
[1:33:37]
uh to give the school board clear
[1:33:39]
direction on what your decision is
[1:33:42]
um as quickly as possible would be
[1:33:45]
i'm certainly preferred by everybody
[1:33:48]
involved
[1:33:50]
so if it means expediting the opinion
[1:33:53]
the resolution and the signing let's see
[1:33:56]
what we can do because i know the
[1:33:57]
applicants want to get in front of the
[1:33:59]
planning commission soon for
[1:34:00]
a site plan review and you know that
[1:34:03]
process
[1:34:04]
is another step uh that has to take
[1:34:08]
place
[1:34:10]
thank you okay
[1:34:27]
is there anything else before we do
[1:34:30]
you know i'm i'm i'm hesitating here now
[1:34:34]
um
[1:34:37]
fred what are we looking at in terms of
[1:34:40]
time
[1:34:42]
uh probably uh two weeks
[1:34:48]
yeah perhaps a little bit sooner but
[1:34:51]
this is going to be a
[1:34:53]
relative a little bit more detailed
[1:34:55]
resolution
[1:34:56]
and i do have other uh commitments and
[1:34:58]
priorities to other clients
[1:35:00]
so i understand that there's a little
[1:35:02]
bit of urgency and i'll do what i can
[1:35:05]
uh but you know if you're saying you
[1:35:07]
know uh what's
[1:35:08]
uh the timetable i would say uh i would
[1:35:11]
get done within two weeks
[1:35:13]
and sooner if possible
[1:35:17]
mr sussman dave ferguson here did i
[1:35:20]
understand
[1:35:21]
you that we need to have a public
[1:35:24]
meeting to approve the resolution
[1:35:28]
and sign it yes uh not to sign it but at
[1:35:30]
least
[1:35:31]
uh improvement to prove it
[1:35:35]
it's business of the uh commission of
[1:35:38]
the upside
[1:35:39]
of the board yeah if we have to have a
[1:35:42]
public meeting
[1:35:43]
we have to advertise it what is it
[1:35:45]
sharing three weeks
[1:35:47]
prior uh
[1:35:51]
no um two weeks would be sufficient
[1:35:54]
two weeks okay so perhaps after our
[1:35:57]
deliberate
[1:35:58]
deliberations we could uh you know
[1:36:02]
go ahead and uh set a date for the next
[1:36:06]
meeting
[1:36:06]
uh if mr sussman thinks he can you know
[1:36:09]
have it prepared by then and
[1:36:12]
you could go ahead and advertise the
[1:36:14]
meeting
[1:36:15]
so that that clock is running
[1:36:20]
makes sense
[1:36:24]
uh this is suchita warner may i ask a
[1:36:26]
question
[1:36:27]
uh i just wanted to find out
[1:36:31]
in terms of the time frame uh and chris
[1:36:34]
please jump in if you would
[1:36:36]
uh in terms of the next planning
[1:36:38]
commission meeting
[1:36:39]
certainly we're anxious to be able to
[1:36:43]
make our next presentation which i
[1:36:44]
believe is sometime in september is the
[1:36:46]
next planning commission meeting
[1:36:48]
uh and then we also have a clock that
[1:36:52]
we're trying to move towards
[1:36:54]
in terms of design development and with
[1:36:56]
the state
[1:36:57]
um you know as far as submission and starting the design development
[1:37:02]
process
[1:37:03]
so i guess my question is
[1:37:06]
uh is that um the resolution
[1:37:10]
the process of the resolution is that
[1:37:12]
set in stone or is there any way
[1:37:15]
to be able to take up um
[1:37:18]
the motion and uh accept the the variance and the special exception
[1:37:23]
tonight just trying to
[1:37:25]
the voice and the voice rules require
[1:37:28]
that there be a written resolution
[1:37:30]
and they contain findings of facts and
[1:37:32]
conclusions of law yeah just as this is
[1:37:35]
an administrative hearing
[1:37:36]
administrative process so uh at least
[1:37:40]
you will know uh tonight presumably
[1:37:43]
if the board has directed me to prepare
[1:37:46]
a resolution
[1:37:47]
to approve the special exception and or
[1:37:49]
variant or
[1:37:50]
to deny it at least you'll know that
[1:37:53]
and the next planning commission meeting
[1:37:55]
is september 23rd
[1:37:58]
and um
[1:38:02]
there's you know we like to have the
[1:38:04]
agenda set
[1:38:06]
a couple weeks in advance uh we could
[1:38:09]
certainly place this on the agenda for
[1:38:11]
site plan review
[1:38:12]
and obviously there's a risk there that
[1:38:15]
something
[1:38:17]
could conceivably happen in the
[1:38:18]
resolution not be signed
[1:38:20]
but i would expect that this resolution
[1:38:23]
would be signed
[1:38:24]
by the 23rd of september
[1:38:30]
thank you i actually should say
[1:38:32]
factually
[1:38:33]
to be fashionably correct the next
[1:38:35]
meeting is is august 26th
[1:38:38]
but you're not going to make that agenda
[1:38:40]
obviously that's next week
[1:38:42]
um but uh the the next meeting where we
[1:38:45]
can actually have this on the agenda
[1:38:46]
this
[1:38:47]
is the 23rd of september
[1:39:00]
if the board
[1:39:06]
votes to to approve
[1:39:12]
then directs
[1:39:15]
you fred to do the resolution
[1:39:19]
is that acceptable yes that's uh
[1:39:22]
essentially i thought that's what we
[1:39:23]
were talking about yeah because i i
[1:39:26]
think i i
[1:39:30]
you know i think that's where we are
[1:39:40]
uh i'd like to hear from from the board
[1:39:44]
you know um
[1:39:54]
before i make my comments i'd like to
[1:39:57]
hear
[1:39:57]
from the board i'd like for us to really
[1:40:03]
make our decision uh that's
[1:40:06]
what i had hoped to do tonight
[1:40:14]
and i think we need to uh
[1:40:17]
we need to do that so
[1:40:20]
moving forward special exception
[1:40:27]
uh jody hunsar here um the reasons given
[1:40:30]
seem to fit with the requirements and i
[1:40:33]
support moving forward with the special
[1:40:35]
exemption
[1:40:43]
dan i agree
[1:40:46]
i think they they meet the requirements
[1:40:49]
and i think it's a great looking plan i
[1:40:52]
think it makes sense in every way
[1:40:55]
david i agree
[1:40:58]
uh we have a recommendation from the planning and zoning commission that
[1:41:06]
it be approved
[1:41:07]
and uh i think the uh
[1:41:11]
stakeholders support it and
[1:41:16]
ron has made a great uh presentation
[1:41:20]
so i'm i'm in full agreement
[1:41:26]
jody
[1:41:29]
yes in agreement
[1:41:35]
okay um
[1:41:38]
that special looks
[1:41:43]
moving now to the variance
[1:41:47]
madam chair
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do you are we gonna formally vote or are
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we just discussing right now
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yeah we're discussing that we're
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following your recommendation okay i see
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are we i do have a question dars are we
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is the public still with us are we in
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this meeting by ourselves or
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just out of curiosity
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yes i i can tell you there's 25
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participants to the call
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um and unmuted unless they've muted
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themselves
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okay
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dan was that a an issue no i just wasn't i haven't done this
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before so i wasn't sure
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what at what stage we were i guess
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that's what i'm saying whether it was
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our
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meeting together to just make the
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decision or or what
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okay we've gone through the again
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special exception what about the
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variance
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uh jody hunsar speaking again it seems
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that all conditions are
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satisfied um i i believe it's in the
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interest of the board to vote this
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forward
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david ferguson here i agree
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i believe it should be approved
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and this is jan rutkay and i i concur
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okay with with that uh
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is fred still with us yes i am mountain
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chair
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um
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based on
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the feelings of the award
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i'm requesting that you prepare
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a resolution madam chair i think you
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need to take a formal vote of the board
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and i would suggest that you entertain a
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motion
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from a member of the board to direct
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the attorney to prepare a resolution
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that uh grants these requested special
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exception
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and the requested variance
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all right we'll do the formal vote um
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as you're indicated about
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the first vote would be on these
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special exceptions
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jam i vote yes
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to approve david ferguson
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i vote yes approve
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jody holmster yes
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and that motion included uh specif
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specifying that uh
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fred sussman would write the opinion a
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resolution right
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just for the record make it clear yes
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okay uh
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variant
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i vote to approve
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david ferguson i vote to approve
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jody i vote to approve
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okay
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fred what do we need from you now or to
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give you
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nothing madam chair i've been here i've
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read all the materials i
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have them and i have on my note from
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tonight's hearing
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so i have enough uh to prepare a
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uh resolution for you madam chair did
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you vote
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on either of the two motions no
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okay
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so i think that would conclude uh the
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business of the board on
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the application yeah
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thank you very much for your time and
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your evening appreciate everybody's
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attention
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and care for the project well thank you
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i mean i can't you know
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you all done a wonderful job
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thank you all thank you for taking the
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time to hear our presentation
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we're excited about the project
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it's an exciting project
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thank you dr spencer thank you holly
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thank you all the board members
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appreciate your time and effort you're
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welcome
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the meeting is adjourned
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thank you