[1:21] Thank you for keeping me on my toes there, Anthony. [laughter]

[1:29] » I've been informed it is 6:15 by one of my council members and time to start the

[1:34] public hearing. Um, this public hearing is on ordinance O-26-14,

[1:40] an ordinance of the town council, Chesapeake Beach, amending the town code

[1:44] chapter 290, zoning, article 3, zoning districts section 290-10, land use table

[1:50] to prohibit data centers in all zones. And I would think that Sarah, you're the

[1:55] one that could probably explain this best.

[1:58] » Sure. So the

[2:01] ordinance that is drafted simply removes data centers as a permitted use which

[2:07] it's currently permitted in the maritime commercial zone only but it removes it

[2:11] as a permitted use and inserts it as an expressly prohibited use in every zone

[2:17] which means that data centers would not be permitted anywhere in the town of

[2:20] Chesapeake Beach. >> Straightforward

[2:23] » that is the simple explanation. Uh does anybody uh have any comments or

[2:29] questions on the council?

[2:33] Okay. Public, anybody in the public have any questions or comments on this

[2:38] particular issue?

[2:43] [laughter] >> Dr. Janette Weisaki. Um I live on 13th

[2:46] Street. Uh so I would like to strongly encourage all of you to um vote in

[2:51] support of prohibiting data centers. um they're just not a good fit for our

[2:56] community. Um if you listened So I am on the

[3:02] environmental commission, but I'm speaking for myself. If you listen to

[3:05] the uh environmental commission meeting where Nutelli Holdings came and spoke to

[3:10] us, they looked for three things and we have all three proximity to high voltage

[3:14] power lines, uh water water and water treatment facilities and fiber optics

[3:20] which we now have. So removing these as prohibited will protect Chesapeake Beach

[3:25] for a long time. We should encourage um

[3:31] protection of the ecosystem. I walked on the trail the other day

[3:36] I can't imagine a data center being out there. So um the more we can do to

[3:40] protect our environment, the the better it will be for the future.

[3:46] So thank you. >> Thank you.

[3:48] » You ended with a blast of thunder, too. I I wonder how how did you manage that?

[3:55] [laughter] >> That was the emphasis on your point. Uh

[3:59] is there anybody else that would like to speak in the public hearing?

[4:04] » Hearing none. Uh we will >> I have a comment. No.

[4:08] » Oh, you're Did you want to speak? >> Well, I wouldn't mind asking a question

[4:12] if if she would. Uh I I appreciate you coming out last time

[4:17] and again this time. Um, like I said before, I'm an electrician by trade. So,

[4:22] I've worked at different data centers in Lowden County. I've about a month and a

[4:29] half ago, I went to a data center that was built in like 200

[4:35] maybe 12 or something like that. All the generators were inside.

[4:39] The way that the data center are now with the hyperscaler one is drastically

[4:46] changed from where they were just eight years ago. Um, when I've looked into as

[4:54] Cal County and stuff like that, what I see a big item that

[4:59] nationally is we have a nuclear power plant and we have the gas liqufied and

[5:05] we have the gas pipeline. You know what I mean?

[5:10] I I do not really and then do not really

[5:14] think that there's a pressing concern and worry for Ches Peak Beach, but I do

[5:21] know that the money that's made there is

[5:27] pretty pretty hard to fathom how much money

[5:31] that are made, you know. So, um I've talked to uh Anthony about this a few

[5:38] times this week. Um it it's uh I don't see this as an emerging uh worry

[5:47] and stuff like that, but I think that the moratorum that the

[5:54] county put made it seem like we weren't um like the whole all of the governing

[6:00] bodies were there. I also think that the way, the shape, the geographical area of

[6:09] what Chesake Beaches wouldn't allow for any industry. So, it's not singling out

[6:16] any one industry. Um, I would say the same if it was a manufacturer. I just

[6:23] don't think our town has that platform for it. You know, I I don't want it to

[6:27] be where we're making a statement in opposition

[6:33] to any thing. I just do not see that uh

[6:41] our soil or environment would allow for such thing. You know, I don't

[6:48] [clears throat] >> so it should be easy to vote to support

[6:50] it, >> of course. But I just wanted to add it

[6:53] seems like you've well educated in regards to this and

[6:58] stuff like that. So I just >> I am

[7:01] » I actually used to coordinate cloud training for the National Institutes of

[7:04] Health. So I am quite familiar with um with AI with machine learning with data

[7:10] centers. So the hypers scale data centers are a completely different beast

[7:14] than what people think of as the internet and with the amount of heat

[7:20] that they are putting out. Um two separate studies have come out. um one

[7:26] that talks about the increase in land temperature and a second one that talks

[7:30] about the increase in ambient air temperature. And if you understand

[7:34] anything about how earth science works, if you heat the land, you heat the air.

[7:38] If you heat the air, you heat the land. And you heat the water. And that's the

[7:42] big issue because for for the bay, it is very shallow. Mhm.

[7:50] [clears throat] >> So if you do any fishing, you might be

[7:53] familiar with um the term dead zones or hypoxia. So that's already a concern

[7:59] because the bay is shallow. And what that means for those who don't know is

[8:03] that um warm water doesn't hold dissolved oxygen as well. And so if it

[8:08] can't hold oxygen, the organisms that live there can't breathe and they end up

[8:12] dying. So those that creates a dead zone. Fish can swim away, oysters can't,

[8:18] right? So for us, for our ecosystem,

[8:24] um, putting something so close that puts out heat, if you watched the Nutelli

[8:30] experts with us, the environmental commission, they would not, they refused

[8:36] to answer where the heat goes. If you take um, heated water from 120° to 90°,

[8:44] that 30° heat has to go somewhere. though it's ex it's expelled into the

[8:49] air that's going to heat up the air. So I agree that Chesapeake Beach doesn't

[8:57] have first we're not zoned industrial or I2 but it's it's not so much that you're

[9:05] making a statement. You're making sure that we are protecting our future and

[9:10] our kids' future. I I moved here for Brownies Beach.

[9:15] My kids got to see it. I want other people's kids to see it the way it is.

[9:19] So what you are doing with this vote is not saying, "Oh, I hate data centers.

[9:25] [clears throat] We can't have data centers here." You are saying we're

[9:28] protecting this ecosystem for future generations.

[9:32] » And and that's and that's the statement that I I hope that is is heard. you

[9:37] know, uh I think certain areas you have the

[9:44] ability to have manufacturing. You have I think Detroit has a lot of auto

[9:49] manufacturer and different places. Chespig Beach is

[9:53] » it's not that place. And so it's not us making a a statement except for to say

[9:58] we love the Ches Bay. That's one thing that I believe most Marylanders will

[10:03] agree to. um the oxygen levels that you're speaking of when the phosphates

[10:08] and I mean we take we fight so hard to take to to improve it something like

[10:15] that can take away the efforts of so many people. So,

[10:20] » correct. And one of the concerns um I've had in speaking with neighbors in town

[10:26] is look how easy it was for the zoning to get changed at what's supposed to be

[10:32] the park and the farm and forest on constellations property went from farm

[10:37] and forest straight to I2. So, it doesn't take much to get land resoned.

[10:44] And we have all the things that that data centers want. So, can they come in

[10:49] and start buying up property and saying, "Well, you know, we're close enough."

[10:54] So, if you if you take this statement and say, "We're going to protect

[10:58] Chesapeake Beach the way it is now," and not permit them at all, then that will

[11:02] prevent a a a developer from eyeing anywhere in our proximity because I

[11:08] literally said, "How did you choose this park to come build a data center?" And

[11:13] the the gentleman who answered, he said it's his job to so what he does is he

[11:18] looks first for the high voltage power lines. They run right back there by um

[11:22] in Owings. >> Then they look for water and water

[11:26] treatment facilities. We're one of the few in the county that have them. And

[11:31] what what's happening with these data centers is they once they get into a

[11:35] place, they don't stop. So they keep coming and coming and coming and wanting

[11:40] more and wanting more and wanting more. So we with this with with voting this in

[11:46] you're saying not here in Chesapeake Beach. We're going to protect this for

[11:51] all of the future. So it's there might be places that want data

[11:57] centers. There might be places where they look at the revenue and they say,

[12:02] "Oh, how can we turn that down? How can we how can we put what what we you know

[12:10] what this whole community was built on at risk? So for me that's the question.

[12:15] I think you there are opportunities to develop more tourism. Um especially if

[12:21] that ferry is going to come in, there's going to need to be more than just the

[12:25] rod and reel in the water park. So that's where we need to focus and and

[12:31] build up our our tourism and and you guys have been done a great job with

[12:35] with increasing the activities that are available for the parks and wreck and

[12:39] things at Kellum's Field. Those are all amazing things. Um let's do more of that

[12:44] and and and have things that people want to come see if this ferry system comes

[12:50] in. They don't want to see a a data center. So

[12:54] » yeah, and and it's just the infrastructure for like the highway

[12:59] systems, um the the transmission lines. There's so many other things that uh

[13:06] that's what I've based my um my decisions on and stuff like that. And

[13:12] and I I thank you for for speaking out, but it we're not we're not

[13:18] trying to ostracize any one industry. It's just we're also saying we're the

[13:23] caretakers of our Ches Bay and the bay is is what we all kind of find to be our

[13:30] important and putting that decision is sort of what makes me

[13:37] thank you. >> All right. Thank you for speaking up.

[13:40] [clears throat] Uh if there's nobody else that wants to

[13:43] speak up, we can adjourn for about uh 3 minutes until we start the regular

[13:47] meeting. So we'll adjourn for 3 minutes.

[13:58] I'm Sorry.

[16:07] This is a partial question.

[16:14] » Like to call to order the town council meeting for August 20th, 2026.

[16:20] Uh we'll start with the pledge of allegiance. If you would join me,

[16:22] please. Aliance to the flag of the United States

[16:33] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice.

[16:41] » Uh, council, is there a motion to approve the agenda?

[16:47] » Is there a second? >> Second.

[16:49] » Motion to amend. Go ahead

[16:53] to motion to amend the agenda to reference the agenda that was sent to us

[17:00] on Friday and add new business. Item number four and item number five. I

[17:09] can read them aloud if you would like. was the uh item number four was to

[17:16] consider awarding

[17:21] to consider the award of concrete paving contract to Cal Ready Mix Concrete

[17:25] Supplies LLC in the amount of $975,77.

[17:31] Item number five was town council to consider the award of rail trail

[17:35] expansion to KCI technologies in amount of 329,160,000.

[17:45] » Is there a second for the motion to amend?

[17:49] » Uh I would like the motion for discussion to ask why he believes that

[17:54] we should put that back. I think if we're going to discuss it, we'd have to

[17:58] have a motion, a second to to the motion.

[18:01] » Second the motion for discussion. >> Okay. Now, you may ask your question.

[18:05] » So, please let us know why you believe that we should be able to put that back

[18:09] on. >> According to the email, uh it said

[18:13] uh basically we'll wait for the whole council to be here for that. I have over

[18:19] the past few months uh done a lot of research in regards to the storm water

[18:24] management plan and our town and the process there that has

[18:31] slipped through that pro that there. Um so I find that if we're going to alter

[18:37] the course um for one thing, we should alter it for everything. if we're only

[18:42] going to have uh what the consensus behind the scenes vote is and not allow

[18:49] the public business to be done in the public. I that was the agenda that was

[18:54] sent then on Monday was re revised and so I want to stay with the one that was

[18:59] sent. >> Okay. And may I please ask um Melissa

[19:04] who sets the agenda for the

[19:10] » the agenda is set by the mayor and as long as the uh agenda is published

[19:18] it um of course it's subject to a motion to amend when it comes to you all.

[19:26] » You have a response to that Councilman Devon?

[19:28] » Yeah I mean I have my vote. He has his role and I have my role. So, I mean,

[19:32] I've made my motion. This is the motion that I would be going to vote on. Right.

[19:39] So, we can vote on it. >> Just want to make sure the paving

[19:41] schedule is not like timesensitive. Do we have a certain timeline we have to

[19:46] have that um voted on by or? >> We're not it we're not beholden to any

[19:54] particular timeline until we sign the contract.

[19:58] Although I mean you want to be mindful that the work needs to be done in the

[20:02] appropriate season, but we're not beholdened to anything until the council

[20:06] votes to approve it and then town signs off.

[20:10] » Okay. Any further comments or questions? No, sir.

[20:12] » All right. Let's vote on the uh proposed amendment. All in favor of the proposed

[20:17] amendment say I. >> I.

[20:19] » Opposed to the proposed amendment say no.

[20:22] » No. >> Okay. the the amendment fails.

[20:27] All right. Um moving along. Uh we now need I think a motion to approve the

[20:33] agenda as not amend not amended. So is there a motion?

[20:39] » Motion to approve. >> Is there a second?

[20:41] » Second. >> All in favor say I.

[20:43] » I. >> Opposed.

[20:44] » Opposed. >> Okay. It passes 3 to one.

[20:48] » Um I believe we had um this discussion before. It's the vote of what? The vote

[20:56] of the elected people. Remember we did that when it came there.

[21:00] » So it's How's that?

[21:04] » They're absent. They can't vote. We have two members absent.

[21:09] » I think that's how the voting went. That's a on the record. We'll we'll

[21:12] circle back to that. >> Yeah. Yeah, there is. Yeah, I didn't

[21:19] think so. All right. This is the uh uh opportunity for a public comment on

[21:25] any item on the agenda. Uh is there anybody in the public that wishes to

[21:30] come forward and speak to the town council? You'd be welcome to. Now is the

[21:34] time. Seeing none,

[21:39] uh I'd ask the council uh for a motion to approve the minutes of the July 16th,

[21:44] 2026 town council meeting. Is there a motion to approve?

[21:48] » Motion to approve. Is there a second? >> Second.

[21:51] » I oppose. I I want to discuss it. These >> He said second, right?

[21:56] » Yeah, but I haven't called for the vote yet. We have a motion and a second. I

[22:00] haven't called for the vote yet. Now, do you want to make a comment?

[22:04] » Yes. >> In the meeting,

[22:10] you'll notice that I on the approval of the minutes for the July 7th, 20

[22:17] 26 I discussed how there was not items properly recorded. The

[22:25] July 16th meeting again has that. This is not the first time. Um

[22:33] the at the end of the meeting we uh the

[22:38] mayor made a motion to uh journ it was it was motion was made

[22:45] by Councilman Green. The mayor called for a second and then he goes, "Oh, I

[22:50] forgot I did something." Um and then we went to close session. We never pulled

[22:55] that off. The minutes don't reflect it. Also, um, when we had the lightning

[23:00] round, the mayor read a public comment and then engaged with a public works

[23:04] administrator on it. When I asked what the merits were that, uh, the mayor

[23:09] said, "Well, cuz I'm sitting in this seat and I'm the HOA president."

[23:14] We uh were told not to comment uh on public comment the previous month. Um,

[23:23] also after the motion was made for close session, I made a discussion.

[23:29] None of that was recorded in these minutes.

[23:34] » How would you like to rectify that, Councilman Dubo?

[23:36] » Oh, I'm going to vote against these minutes. Um, it's not

[23:41] it's I believe been established that the mayor and administrator are the one who

[23:47] keep track of these. I've objected last month to items being missed. I'm

[23:51] objecting again this month. >> But after the objection, will you be

[23:55] making sure that um our town clerk gets what you want to have reflected in the

[23:59] minutes or >> according to the email sent by the

[24:02] mayor, everything has to run through him.

[24:05] » Okay. Well, will you be submitting to the mayor? I

[24:08] » I've submitted different things to him. I get no response.

[24:11] » So, in all in all due respect, I I hear what you're saying and I respect that.

[24:15] But the the course of action to correct it or anything that has to be done on

[24:19] our end has to also be a part of the conversation. So I I I hear what you're

[24:24] saying and I understand it. >> There needs to be a specific motion to

[24:28] amend the agenda to say X or Y >> right now. That's the point. Yeah.

[24:33] » Okay. You ready to vote? Move on. What are we

[24:37] doing? Well, let's I guess

[24:44] we could uh

[24:54] » they're incorrect. They're in they're incorrect.

[24:56] » Okay. So, we can make the vote here, move on from here, and if you have

[24:59] something that we want to make sure that's in the minutes, then we can put

[25:02] that in >> and make sure it's reflected. Or you can

[25:05] turn that in to the mayor to make sure that you do have it documented, that you

[25:08] have your changes where where you want them to be.

[25:11] » All right. I'll make sure. >> All right. Cool.

[25:16] » All right. Have a motion. Second.

[25:21] » You got a motion? >> Second. All in favor? I

[25:23] » I opposed. Approve the minutes. Yes, >> that that's where I thought we were.

[25:28] Yes. >> Get a little off track here. All right.

[25:32] This is the time that the public can make a comment on any item that's on the

[25:36] agenda if there's any >> I'm sorry, what?

[25:42] » No, we did that already. We have to do the close session andformational work

[25:45] session um approval. >> Oh, okay. All right.

[25:52] Um, so that was the that's what we just did.

[25:56] » Yes. >> Okay. So now we need to approve the

[25:59] minutes of the July 16th close session. >> Motion to approve.

[26:03] » There's a second. >> Second.

[26:05] » All in favor? I >> hold on discussion that that the close

[26:08] session minutes are incorrect, too. There was a lot of items that were

[26:14] misinterpreted and

[26:25] the attorney attorney has just informed us that that it is inappropriate to

[26:30] discuss any minutes of the closed session in the public session. So the

[26:35] way that would have to be handled if there is an objection on close session

[26:40] minutes I think would be that the motion would be to defer approval of the close

[26:50] session minutes. Um and then comment would be directed to the clerk

[26:59] as to what a particular member believed was missing or incorrect in those

[27:04] minutes. And then um uh that that content can be communicated

[27:12] to the council. And then in the next meeting when the closed session minutes

[27:17] come back on, you can either say that the minutes are amended per the comments

[27:26] of the council member or not. >> So no action at this particular time.

[27:33] » Well, there first needs to be a motion to defer

[27:36] » Okay. >> the vote.

[27:39] [clears throat] >> All right. Is there a motion to defer

[27:42] approval of the minutes? >> Weren't we in the motion to approve it?

[27:45] So, we'd have to remove that emotion.

[27:50] » No, no, >> we already we already motioned and

[27:53] approved, but you came in. So, your motion is to figure out if you want to

[27:56] defer or not right now.

[28:01] » Hearing nothing. Um, can we have a vote on approval of

[28:07] the minutes of the closed session? >> Favor. All

[28:10] » in favor say I. >> I.

[28:13] » Laura. >> Three in favor, one opposed. Motion. The

[28:17] motion passes. All right. Next. Approval of the minutes

[28:23] of the August 11th, 2026formational work session. Is there a motion to approve?

[28:27] » Motion to approve. >> Is there a second?

[28:30] » Second. >> Second. Any discussion?

[28:34] All in favor say I. I. >> Opposed. The eyes have it.

[28:40] All right, we're down to petitions and communications. Town administrative

[28:43] report. Smeilia. >> Thank you.

[28:47] » The town administrator's report was submitted um as a part of the agenda

[28:53] package. Um, of note, just wanted to uh flag that we um will be we've updated

[29:01] the neighborhood connectivity page on the uh

[29:07] project's dashboard that you can find on the town website. Um, and there's also a

[29:12] a new survey that's been added there. So, if there's public interest in areas

[29:16] that have not already been highlighted, you can um submit your thoughts on that

[29:21] page. Um, additionally, um, we will be talking

[29:27] at the work session, um, more about software that we're, the town's going to

[29:31] has been acquiring. Um, it's a program called Violytics and it will help public

[29:37] works with our asset management. Um, so it's a really um, interesting software

[29:42] and we've invited the representative from Violytics to come and give a

[29:47] presentation at our next work session.

[29:52] Um,

[29:55] outside of that, I'm happy to take questions if there are any questions.

[30:00] » Yeah, I had asked for a compiled list of all outstanding Zen disc tickets,

[30:05] especially after the um multiple year um item that was brought forth to us from

[30:12] the residents on 15th Street and the closure of the stairs. Um, I don't see

[30:17] that there. I mean, we are in the thousands and uh I'm pretty sure we have

[30:23] not resolved them. We should be aware of what items are being given attention and

[30:28] what items are not being given attention. Sure. So, I believe that it

[30:33] was shared with the council that we have been in conversations with 15th Street.

[30:37] » I was discussing the um the Zenesk to having a open Zenesk ticket summary.

[30:45] That's what I was saying. So with Zindesk,

[30:49] um there is a section at the beginning of the town administrator's report that

[30:53] tells you the number of tickets that were created for that time period, the

[30:56] number of tickets that were resolved in that time period, and the tickets that

[31:00] remain outstanding. So because Zind Zenesk is used for a

[31:04] multitude of reasons, I don't think it's appropriate to list all of those uh

[31:09] tickets that come in. Um, so if there is a request to change the way that it's

[31:14] um, presented, we can talk through that, but I don't think that it would be

[31:18] appropriate to display all the outstanding tickets um, specifically

[31:23] because some of them um, have sensitive information in them. If there is a

[31:28] specific ticket that you have a question about, whoever submitted it is always

[31:33] welcome to uh email in to get updates on their tickets, but they also are able to

[31:39] log in and see the status of things if it's in progress, if it's been closed

[31:43] out. Um, if you are referring like to 15th Street, which is the example that

[31:48] you used, uh, the council has already been provided an update as to what's

[31:52] happening with 15th Street. Um and we have been in communication with the

[31:57] residents that uh flagged concern um and are actively working and scheduling uh

[32:04] resolutions as it pertains to that. I think the what I'm discussing is that

[32:11] the fact that it had been going on for years, the fact that there was um I

[32:16] guess the survey it was the last administration, this administration,

[32:21] there was uh there was the uh

[32:30] it was in the report, but it was in the report so vague that that who couldn't

[32:35] be reasonably expected to piece together the breadcrumbs of the of it in the

[32:40] report. I I feel that if there's items like this, we don't need to list

[32:48] important or confidential information. Well, we should have a summary of list.

[32:52] So there's 67 unresolved tickets from here. But so after August 13th, they

[32:58] just there's no update on these tickets. So the unresolved tickets that just they

[33:03] just sit there and it gets forgotten. And I think that's what I've been saying

[33:07] where people are feeling that they have to fend for themselves. The Zenesk

[33:13] is a great asset. I appreciate it. But I think that in light of the

[33:19] situation that's been 3 or 4 years in the works

[33:24] that it we should definitely get a a a current status of all these open

[33:32] categories or whatever. kind of see what's going on. If we have somebody

[33:36] that's x amount of years engagement, we should know about that stuff.

[33:42] » Thank you. Uh just I I receive your uh thoughts and I appreciate your

[33:48] perspective. Um just so that we're clear, when it came to 15th Street, the

[33:53] ticket for Zenesk did not come in um until very recently. However, the 15th

[33:59] Street topic has been on the town administrator's report for more than a

[34:02] year. So, I receive what you're saying and I understand your perspective

[34:07] » and and whether people realize it or not, this is in support of what you are

[34:13] doing. I mean, this is it's such a an example that I've I've

[34:20] tell everybody use the info ticket. That info isn't just a

[34:27] a dismissal. It has substance to it. I I don't This is me advocating for that.

[34:33] Like you're correct. It wasn't I was like you have to use the info and until

[34:39] it has the info who's in charge of it is whether it's even going to an email it's

[34:46] registered you know. So >> all right folks that was your Zenesk

[34:51] commercial. So please use it. Thank you. >> info at speaker.

[34:55] » All right. I have uh two things mostly related to the water park. Um one is I

[35:03] just wanted to um request that we had a couple requests from the water park

[35:06] committee meeting to add the um like concept plans to the the landing page.

[35:11] » Yeah, >> that's that's pretty straightforward.

[35:14] And the other one was for the what's it called? Biolytics.

[35:18] I was wondering if we could that's for asset management. So, I was wondering if

[35:23] we could uh maybe request Shel or Paddock to give us some sort of

[35:28] preventative maintenance program for the water park features so that we can add

[35:31] that to the asset suite management >> program so that we know what to budget

[35:37] for and what what stuff needs to be refurbished [clears throat]

[35:41] and maintained so that we can budget and keep the park going for 40 50 years.

[35:49] » [clears throat] >> Uh Wayne or not, Josh, what do you guys

[35:53] use for the treatment plant for your asset management?

[35:58] » Uh we utilize Antaro offered by from Almax.

[36:02] » Um >> for the water park, it would probably

[36:05] work. Um if you start adding, we found issues when you start adding too many

[36:10] items in there that the database would start to bog down. But for what would be

[36:16] at the water park, it may be effective. >> Okay. So maybe we could look at that ant

[36:20] or biolytics for the water park. Whatever works best. Yeah.

[36:25] » All right. Thanks. That's all I got. >> All right.

[36:32] » Um just just because it's not

[36:39] » could you speak up, please? >> Can you can you is your microphone? Um,

[36:45] are there any can you just provide the latest update on the Chesake Village

[36:48] sidewalk? >> We have not heard back from SHA

[36:51] regarding our grant yet. They told us that we could expect to hear something

[36:55] mid to late September. So, that's when I'm expecting to hear back from them.

[36:59] » Okay. Um, I just wanted to reiterate that cuz the it's on the engineers

[37:04] report, but it's not anywhere on the town administrator's report that we are

[37:08] in application for a grant. Is that that is correct? this on the it should be on

[37:14] the >> I think it says site site visit or

[37:17] something conducted. Yeah. So >> because that was the last um update that

[37:22] we had but they came and they did the site visit. We spoke with them. They

[37:26] said we will follow up with you mid to late September. So it's reflected on the

[37:30] report. That's the last conversation that I've had with them.

[37:34] » Okay. So you expect to hear from SHA in September.

[37:38] » That is what they communicated with us when they were on site. So that's my

[37:41] expectation. >> Okay. So if we don't hear that before

[37:44] the September meeting, could you please add that update that we're waiting for

[37:48] them in September to your administrator's report?

[37:50] » Absolutely. >> Thank you very much.

[37:53] » Um the $120,000 program open space allocation. Has a

[37:58] project been identified for that yet or have we um

[38:03] » will that come because I know there's some people that maybe could use that

[38:06] money. I will need to follow up with Dan right

[38:09] now because he is our um point of contact for program open space now.

[38:14] » Um but the last update he provided me was that that was what we were expecting

[38:19] to get once the money was allocated and I haven't received the official

[38:23] notification that it was officially allocated yet.

[38:26] » And is it general or earmarked? And I don't have a preference

[38:31] specifically. I'm just curious if it is. >> It's general. I mean, we do submit in

[38:36] our application projects that we would like to apply the funds towards. Um, in

[38:41] the past, I think the way that the grant was administered, you just kind of said,

[38:45] "These are the projects of interest that we're focused on, and they would put

[38:48] that in the letter as a whole." >> So, what I would anticipate is that they

[38:52] would expect for us to apply the funds to the money that we identified in our

[38:56] application as priority projects. >> Okay.

[39:00] Um, >> but there's no like set amount that we

[39:03] have to apply to each project. >> Gotcha.

[39:07] » Okay. I'll [snorts] have to review those again. Okay.

[39:10] » I recall some but not all of them. >> Um, Kellb was included on that.

[39:15] » Yes. >> Okay. Um,

[39:20] for the 15 street steps, are you willing to put yourself on some kind of um

[39:25] decision matrix so that talk isn't like the constant

[39:30] update like if we arrive here then we have these two decisions. I mean it's

[39:36] got to go forward somehow. >> Yeah.

[39:41] » Okay. All right. [clears throat] Oh u any further information that the town

[39:47] wants to provide can only help my understanding of the situation.

[39:55] » Yes. Um, and then I saw that um, the

[40:03] courtyards were on the code enforcement report and I've refrained from asking

[40:09] about them for a long time, but there is a a very conspicuous situation over

[40:15] there. Yeah. >> Um,

[40:18] » can you provide any updates on that? >> I do. you want to think about.

[40:26] » So the town has a responsibility to make sure that we are enforcing these code

[40:30] violations that come up. So that's they were cited um to have a code violation

[40:35] because they are currently violating code. Um we have spoken with them and

[40:40] understand that the um nonprofit that owns the courtyards is having some

[40:45] challenges moving through um the cycle with DHC to get the approval to

[40:50] demolish. And so we met with their president um on Wednesday

[40:57] um to figure out how the town can partner with the courtyards to

[41:02] » the company >> the company that owns them to move the

[41:06] project forward. Um from the town's perspective, I think their their holdup

[41:11] is they need architectural renderings in order to be able to get the approval to

[41:16] demolish. Um, and so and they don't have or didn't have the funds to to procure

[41:22] that. And so they were kind of between a rock and a hard a hard place is the way

[41:27] they explained it to us. Um, because they couldn't get the permission to

[41:31] demolish until they had this architectural rendering and then they

[41:34] couldn't get the money to get the architectural rendering and unless they

[41:38] had the the money that comes from DHCD. And so it's kind of this uh this vicious

[41:43] cycle. And so the town is trying to do what we can to help um con yeah

[41:48] facilitate and convey um the importance of addressing this um quickly or as

[41:55] quickly as possible given that we're almost at a year of the incident. Um

[42:01] understanding that we have a unique role because it is privately owned.

[42:08] » Um yeah, I' I'd be interested. I mean, it's another one of those things that

[42:13] needs to be sped along, maybe needs a little bit more attention and um effort

[42:18] and an understanding of what other places have done and what is the real

[42:22] expectation to have a >> Did you want to say something?

[42:26] » And at this point, building >> um standing in that manner.

[42:35] The municipal infractions process

[42:39] takes time. There's a when there's an infraction, I'm not

[42:45] addressing these particular property maintenance problem. A code

[42:52] compliance person issues a notice to the property owner

[42:56] that the violation exists and gives them a reasonable

[43:04] for um 30 days that citation goes to court and then it gets scheduled for

[43:09] review. So um it has frames built into there that

[43:17] or I mean they just are what they are. Um, so I don't know where these

[43:22] citations are in the process, but they will go to court if they remain unpaid

[43:25] enough. There are processes that can be invoked

[43:32] outside of the municipal process in some circumstances when you

[43:38] have a building that has an in.

[43:48] » Yeah. And that is a conversation.

[43:53] They're just um both sides that we need to keep.

[43:57] » I understand and I'm I'm for collaborative and and you know creative

[44:02] solutions to solve a problem. But um it's it's

[44:06] » be heard. I'm sorry. I'm getting signals from the back that nobody was able to

[44:10] hear you. >> Okay. Now, okay. So,

[44:14] » all right. I can't >> in my face. [laughter] So that that

[44:18] particular building is inhabitated. So that's that's not that problem. But

[44:23] » we didn't hear her. Could she repeat it so the public could be heard for report

[44:27] it? Because nobody heard what her we heard it but the public didn't.

[44:31] » I said was the municipal infraction process takes

[44:36] time. There are time frames built into the process that are just what they are.

[44:42] Um it can only be expedited so much. So, when an infraction occurs, the a code

[44:50] compliance officer, and I'm speaking generally, I'm not speaking about these

[44:53] citations, a code compliance officer will issue a

[44:58] notice to the property owner and give them the opportunity to correct the

[45:01] violation. And then if the violations aren't corrected, a citation is written

[45:05] and that citation goes to court after a period of time and then there's a a

[45:09] trial scheduled, a process over which the town has very little control. I also

[45:15] said that there are certain circumstances under which um other

[45:20] processes outside of the municipal infraction process um can be pursued but

[45:26] I don't know that this particular situation is one of those and we want to

[45:31] be careful about pursuing remedies that result in displacement of people and

[45:35] then I suggested that I would have further conversation offline.

[45:39] » Thank you. >> Yes, that that's that's fine. And my my

[45:44] u point in bringing it up is because it does need some attention. I haven't

[45:48] heard about it in a long time. So if you're addressing it, that's great. But

[45:52] um >> and we met just this week with the the

[45:55] property manager or the the president of the corporation

[45:59] » and just to um just for clarification, we were under the what in the last

[46:05] conversations that we had with them in July, June and July was that they were

[46:10] going to present their bid for demolition and repair and that they were

[46:15] going to hear back the middle of July. Right? So we had this conversation in

[46:20] June. Um, and that's what we were expecting. And when they heard back,

[46:24] they got the news that they couldn't move forward in the way that they had

[46:28] originally anticipated. And so that's part of what the delay has been is that

[46:33] they were expecting to be able to do something that they did not get approval

[46:36] to do. And it took them a while to hear back from them. And so when they reached

[46:40] out to us and said, "Well, you know, we we understand we're working. We're

[46:44] trying to do everything we can, but we have a limited staff. We have limited

[46:48] funds. and is there anything the town can do to help support? And so that's

[46:51] that's where we are now. Um and we have been trying to um approach it as

[46:57] humanely as possibly uh or humanely as possible when it comes to um

[47:03] navigating this process with them because we understand that it's

[47:06] challenging, right? They're trying to navigate through what the requirements

[47:10] are with the town, the county, the state. Um and they're trying to do that

[47:15] with limited resources. But it we got to a point with the code enforcement

[47:19] violation that we we have an obligation to make sure that we're uh stewarding

[47:25] the town well. So this is that's kind of where we why we are where we are now. We

[47:28] expected to be further along because they were communicating that the plan

[47:33] they had in place would have taken root earlier.

[47:38] » Um sounds good. And I would just suggest that like any of these types of updates

[47:42] that you could just send to us without bringing every single issue to a public

[47:47] meeting >> will only help us inform the residents

[47:50] that care. I think this is an issue that a lot of people care about which is why

[47:53] I brought it up. But there are many issues that

[47:56] » only certain people might care about and the more we know the better we can.

[48:01] » We we received that update in the town administrative report last month about

[48:05] what happened [clears throat] with where they are right now. actually.

[48:09] » So, >> uh, no, we didn't receive all those

[48:11] details or we didn't receive going forward details, but um,

[48:16] » all right, [snorts] let's move >> missed it.

[48:18] » The item that stood out to me um, with

[48:23] Fishing Creek is that you have to look at the surrounding. You

[48:29] have a top lot. You have the buildings around there that

[48:35] have children that live in them. And there is no fencing around that

[48:43] um building that burned down. Um it needs

[48:47] to be demoed, but it also needs to be safe. Kids are curious, you know. Um

[48:55] it it should be at least the minimum is to have a fence in place. If you go on

[49:04] the rail trail towards Richfield Station, they just have stub-ups,

[49:08] plumbing stub-ups, and they've had a fence there for years.

[49:14] I know they want to cut the grass, and it's inconveniencing,

[49:18] but I think our job is make sure that no curious kids get hurt.

[49:28] » All right. >> Is there any comment on that or just

[49:31] ignored? A lot of times my

[49:34] » a lot of times I just get nothing gets answered.

[49:37] » It is heard. Dan, >> may I interject for a moment? Ma'am,

[49:42] please do. M um do we I I think the question is if it is a public uh safety

[49:50] hazard, does the town has any jurisdiction or or ability to step in

[49:56] based on on the idea of making sure the public is safe or is that something that

[50:01] we defer to the owners of the property? I think that would be an appropo

[50:05] question so that it could be an actionable item from the the topic you

[50:09] just brought up. Do we have anybody that can answer that today or can we get the

[50:13] answer at another time? I

[50:16] » think there is an answer to that, but we can get it another time.

[50:19] » Exactly. Yes. >> Thank you. Okay.

[50:25] » All right. We're going to move on to the treasur's report. The treasurer is on

[50:28] vacation, but you have the printed report in your

[50:32] packets. Um, and I think from what I see, um, we're okay. Anybody

[50:41] got any questions or comments on this uh printed report?

[50:44] » Yes, >> my questions to Dan.

[50:47] » Okay, that'll be great. All right, well let's move on to the next item which is

[50:53] public works report and Jay is here to give us the public report. Go ahead,

[50:58] Jay. >> Um, nothing too notable. A lot going on.

[51:06] I'm just saying that you have the report. I'll take any questions. I mean,

[51:09] there's a lot there's always a lot going on, but there's really a lot going on.

[51:13] So, maybe some of the questions will answer.

[51:16] » If I answer them, I'll answer everyone's question. If there's no questions, we

[51:19] can move on. >> I do not have any questions for you.

[51:23] » Thank you. >> You're welcome.

[51:25] » I uh I presented some information regards to storm water management plan

[51:29] and the administration of that. I have asked about the inspections. I know

[51:34] Wayne wasn't here at the last meeting. Where are we at with inspecting our

[51:39] storm water management on our on our town roads and making sure that things

[51:44] are in operating condition. There was no last month there was no inspections

[51:52] being done. That was the status. I followed up with Cal County cuz they're

[51:55] the administrator of our land. That's what we deferred in 2003.

[52:02] Have Have you done anything on that? I can speak to that Wayne if you want to

[52:07] follow up. So I wouldn't necessarily say they're administrator. We adopted their

[52:12] plan uh in 2003 and this is the the first year did we did budget $100,000

[52:20] this year uh for storm water inspections before there was really no budget for

[52:24] it. So I am aware working with Wayne on 28th Street 27th Street we've done some

[52:31] surveys we replace some culvert projects. There are a lot of storm

[52:35] waters that are older in town. We have inspected, haven't came some working

[52:39] with the engineer, but it it comes into a global situation

[52:45] of areas what we need to look at. It involves a coastal resiliency,

[52:50] especially on the north end of town. There's a lot of pieces to that puzzle.

[52:53] We can as public works kind of go and camera and inspect which we do known

[52:58] deficiencies or broke pipes. But as far as the ultimate infrastructure plan and

[53:03] how we implement it and what we do, that's something that's going to take

[53:06] collaboration council where they want to start, what they want

[53:10] to focus on, what's the highest priority, and then we can initiate,

[53:14] I'm going to say a a global plan if that's what we want to do. As far as

[53:18] what we do now, if it's broke, we fix it. I'm not looking proactively to go

[53:21] out and install major infrastructure um

[53:26] unless it's something we decide to do. From when I talked to the uh the

[53:36] guy at Ky County Public Works in charge of storm water,

[53:43] he looped in the public works administrator there. It sounds like the

[53:50] process and the procedures that we're doing, we're not following the plan as

[53:56] outlined that we we're that oversees us. Like that's the plan of the operating

[54:02] how we're supposed to handle and we're not doing that. Um where you propose to

[54:08] uh pave D Street, there's no way that's not even allowed. Like that wouldn't

[54:12] that shouldn't even been been proposed according to Cal County's plan. So, uh,

[54:17] we're not following what we're supposed to.

[54:21] » Well, I would advise you put in writing what you think we're not following and

[54:24] how you would fix it. Otherwise, I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing.

[54:28] Otherwise, if you have a plan or something you want to do or someone

[54:31] specifically you talk to where the town didn't do something right, let me know

[54:35] cuz I'm not aware of anything we did on D Street.

[54:39] Are you? >> Well, there was a petition, but that's

[54:43] fine. That's >> even the proposal of that has an entire

[54:47] process before you can even propose to do something like that and and for that

[54:51] to be have come and to take our time as a council for for you not to know that

[54:56] that's concerning. >> Well well then maybe you should run for

[54:59] mayor Dan and do something about it. >> That's your answer. Cool.

[55:03] » It is. Thank you. >> All right. And I just I don't I I don't

[55:08] get to praise Jay publicly enough and I did pepper him with a lot of um

[55:14] background questions for um you know budgetary items which is my job.

[55:20] » Understand? >> But um thank you for the benches. Um

[55:25] they're all new and that you know and I know all of those things take time and

[55:30] work and uh they look great. Um the maintenance at the tennis courts has

[55:35] been outstanding. Like the trash is never full. Like everything's clean.

[55:39] It's it's great. Um and everybody appreciates that. Thank you for that. Um

[55:45] I'll ask you all, you know, questions about other things later like lights and

[55:50] all that stuff because I know you've given um updates on that already. Um and

[55:56] then the maintenance of the Kudzu this year has been way better than so many

[56:02] other years. So, whoever's managing that um is doing a very good job. And um I

[56:09] did not make it home today after work. So, um I'm just wondering what's going

[56:14] on with the sidewalks in our neighborhood.

[56:18] » So, that's that's just failed pieces remove and replace where there's a trip

[56:22] hazard. We go out once a year, look for issues over a half an inch discrepancy,

[56:27] and if we can grind them, we have a company that does that. if they're

[56:30] settled too much or cracked, we replace them. So, you know, I will say compared

[56:36] to Richfield Station and other developments because we were there, I

[56:38] was there during the inspection phase, it's it's very nominal compared to other

[56:42] developments cuz, you know, Wayne and I worked with developers, the prior

[56:46] engineer, and I'm going to say they were installed, right? So, it's it's just

[56:52] something we do as a maintenance. >> Okay. So, did did they are they done

[56:56] now? cuz I I've read that. >> Well, they were actually supposed to

[56:58] pour them today, but they had the concrete truck broke down. Uh they they

[57:02] notified me and they're set up to start pouring tomorrow at 9:00. So, they'll

[57:06] pour them tomorrow. It'll set up and they'll probably remove the forms Friday

[57:10] and um or Saturday morning. That'll be it.

[57:13] » Okay. So, that's just normal maintenance. Nothing from IQ Fiber or

[57:17] anything like that. It's just regular routine.

[57:20] » Correct. They're they're actually scheduled to do it last month, but they

[57:23] had um some prior commitments and different things that fell behind. So,

[57:28] um they're out here now. Next, they're going to the heritage.

[57:32] » Well, thank you for doing that maintenance and thank you for all that

[57:36] you do. >> And thank you. And I would like to say,

[57:38] Lori, I appreciate the fact that you recognize something and you say, "Hey,

[57:42] Jay, I recognize this. Here's what I want to do. You tell me how to fund it.

[57:46] You know, I can only make so many decisions." I think anybody can sit out

[57:49] here and point out every problem the town ever did for the last 50 years.

[57:53] Does that move us forward? Not sure. But if that's your focus, let me know and

[57:58] I'll and I'll tell you how I can go back and fix that, too.

[58:01] » Okay. >> Thank you.

[58:02] » The uh the fitness court, it might be more of a Wayne thing, but I see we've

[58:07] got most of the parts and equipment here. Um is the location of that pretty

[58:12] like set in stone? Have we talked with the beach buccaneers like what would

[58:15] work best for them on the location of that?

[58:18] » Yeah, so we submitted a plan to the columns committee to show where that is.

[58:22] In general, it's the same location we showed it in the last master plan.

[58:25] » Okay. >> We did refine it a little bit as we get

[58:27] into detailed design. And I can talk a little bit more about it in my report to

[58:30] get into details. But yes, it's defined. Yes, it's graded. Yes, it's ready to go

[58:34] be permitted. We just need someone to review it and prove it to make sure that

[58:38] it's where you want it. And and to add, the Beach Buccaneers were definitely

[58:42] considered in placement. So that was a part of the the work that was done.

[58:45] » The Beach Buccaneers uh leadership about it.

[58:49] » So it's waiting on the state right now for permitting or

[58:52] » No, I'll just do it now. I was going to do my report. Um

[58:55] » we were waiting for geotech a geotech report. My report says it was due on the

[58:59] 14th. We got it on the 15th. Uh we are working on the foundation as we've

[59:04] talked about over in Kellum's even with the top lot previously. There's base

[59:08] stabilization issues. We've heard about at the water park, right? That's that

[59:11] was that's the the ground out there is not the best ground. In fact, for the

[59:15] top lot we raised at 2 feet. We're doing something similar here. Uh we received

[59:19] the geotech report last week. We're working with the geotech now to figure

[59:22] out what the best solution is to stabilize that base. The last thing we

[59:25] all want to do is put a a fitness pad out there and have it crack up. And

[59:28] that's not what we're going to do. Um so we have a solution for that and we're

[59:31] implementing it now. Um and once that's implemented, we'll be ready to go go for

[59:35] permits and get get that thing built. All right. Thanks.

[59:40] » All right. Let's move on to the water reclamation treatment plant report. Sir,

[59:49] » good evening. >> Evening.

[59:50] » Um, you all have my report. I don't really have any updates on anything else

[59:54] in there. So, if you have any questions, feel free.

[59:57] » I'm I'm uh I'm always impressed with the level of detail that you put in your

[1:00:03] reports. I think it's very useful for us to know and I'm glad that Jay is

[1:00:07] following in your footsteps by putting more photographs in his reports. I think

[1:00:12] he learned that from you. So, I'm glad to see everybody working together and

[1:00:16] it's all for the benefit of the citizens of the town. But this is for those of

[1:00:21] you that haven't seen this report, it's very detailed and uh uh if anybody's got

[1:00:27] any real questions about it, um he's here to answer. So,

[1:00:33] » just want to point out it looks like the uh control system upgrade went well and

[1:00:37] you're seeing some benefits of that. So, that's great to hear.

[1:00:39] » Uh for both the PLC's for the main system and also we had a unplanned

[1:00:45] schedule or project we got done for the uh aation blowers and that's actually

[1:00:48] working quite well now. >> That's great. And you had to use the

[1:00:53] overflow the big tank. >> Yes. That rainfall on the 21st that was

[1:00:57] pretty substantial rain. Everybody here is probably aware of that. Yeah.

[1:01:00] » Um, we saw what the flow issues were. We took did my hourly data from each uh

[1:01:07] flow source and I sent reports off to each partner just say, "Hey, here's

[1:01:11] here's what we saw um just for their information."

[1:01:15] » And we had a recent partner meeting. >> Yes, sir.

[1:01:17] » And um I I sat in on that and I want to say that um from when we took office to

[1:01:25] now, things have settled down a lot. our partners seem to be happy with what's

[1:01:31] going on and so um I'm I'm actually kind of proud that that we're moving that

[1:01:36] forward and I appreciate everything that that you're doing in your leadership

[1:01:41] role. >> Thank you.

[1:01:42] » I really love this. It's it's like really my wheelhouse. I kind of nerd out

[1:01:46] about it a little bit. [laughter] >> Well, for me it reads like an action

[1:01:49] adventure. Um, [laughter] >> we we had some interesting things that

[1:01:55] the the issue with that number three filter effluent valve that the the whole

[1:02:01] visualizing what occurred there. I couldn't help but go into like something

[1:02:04] straight out of um Oh, now my brain ain't going to work. Um,

[1:02:08] » adventure. >> Yeah, pretty much. It was an interesting

[1:02:11] evening on that one. >> Yeah, it's it's Yeah, you did some

[1:02:15] investigating. Was was that under warranty or No,

[1:02:18] » no, that's not under warranty. Th those actuators have been there for a long

[1:02:21] time. Uh it was just an unfortunate series of events. That eyewash station

[1:02:26] been there for 10 years. The way that you drain and refill those eyewash

[1:02:31] stations every 6 months. You pull the caps off you and the water drains

[1:02:34] across. So somehow over 20 times that being done over 10 years

[1:02:40] was never an issue. This one time was a problem. We got it moved. It's not going

[1:02:44] to be a problem in the future. Well, if anybody buys you a Christmas

[1:02:48] present this year, it should be a sleuth hat because [clears throat]

[1:02:51] [laughter] >> troubleshooting is fun.

[1:02:53] » Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then I wanted to say that the I think you said two minute or

[1:02:57] five minute training is such a great way to train and I read that's how you train

[1:03:02] each day like a little quick five minute training and

[1:03:05] » yeah, we do once a week. We have a whole slew of different topics that we go

[1:03:10] through. Um, and sometimes like for electrical safety, it'll be a topic a

[1:03:16] week for about a month or two where we're going through different small

[1:03:20] topics on that just overview what the the operators would need to know um in

[1:03:25] regards to the OSHA 1910 standard which is the one that we follow. Um, and then

[1:03:30] multiple other things like uh heat heat exposure, cold weather, um, try and set

[1:03:35] them up to where they kind of fit with the the time of the year. We have stuff

[1:03:39] for um hazardous animals. You may run across, snakes, spiders, stuff like that

[1:03:45] that usually do that at the end of the spring. Same with uh poisonous plants. I

[1:03:49] mean, we go across a whole wide gamut of stuff.

[1:03:52] » Yeah. Very cool. That's a super smart way to to train your staff with, you

[1:03:57] know, not taking up too much time and um >> right

[1:04:00] » getting some repetition in. So, yeah, I'm always interested in your report. I

[1:04:03] never comment, so I I've made a commitment to highlight and comment. I

[1:04:07] also wanted to say in um >> just highlight just for real highlight.

[1:04:12] » I don't always highlight it. Um but um I don't know if you miss it or not, but I

[1:04:18] will take up Jer uh Larry Jorski's mantle and say congratulations on no SSO

[1:04:25] spells. >> Thank you.

[1:04:26] » Yeah, absolutely. [laughter]

[1:04:29] » Every every month. >> Every month. That's great. Anybody else

[1:04:32] got any questions? >> Yeah, one more. Do we have any movement

[1:04:34] on the grant for the uh the headworks? >> We're slowly working on that. I did

[1:04:39] reach out to Mcronone. There's some documents we would need when we start

[1:04:44] moving forward with uh looking at the um congressional directed spending. Uh just

[1:04:49] documents that they would need to provide that would have to fit into

[1:04:53] qualify for that. Uh we're slowly moving forward. We're hoping to start having

[1:04:58] some site visits in the fall is what's recommended. So hopefully we'll be

[1:05:03] getting going on that and hopefully it'll go in the right direction. Fingers

[1:05:06] » crossed. >> We just got updated cost on that. I'm g

[1:05:09] go off the top of my head. It went from 3.2 million to about 5.4.

[1:05:13] » So the costs are not going to go down. But that project we need to get going on

[1:05:16] it. Um because we're we're going to wind up having an issue eventually.

[1:05:25] » Any question? Any other questions? All right. Thank you, sir. Good report as

[1:05:30] always. on the engineers report. Wayne,

[1:05:35] » thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, you have my report. Just a couple updates. Um, the

[1:05:39] water park continues to change weekly since this was written 812. Um, in this

[1:05:45] report, it talked about value engineering meetings we held with Shyel

[1:05:48] for phase 2 construction. Uh, on 8 723 and 7:30. We also have one last week.

[1:05:54] Uh, don't have a final budget yet, but we're getting close for phase 2

[1:05:56] construction. Uh phase one demo of course is continuing getting ready to do

[1:06:01] power restrikes and test piles should be should be should be happening this week.

[1:06:05] Um other updates I already talked about a little bit with the um

[1:06:10] uh Kellum's master plan for the fitness pad. We already gave you that one. Uh

[1:06:14] rail trail RFP. I did hold the interviews with uh KCI who you'll see is

[1:06:18] recommended in your in your packet or was it's now now removed. Um so we can

[1:06:22] have that conversation when you're ready. I am ready to have that

[1:06:24] conversation. I do recommend that they be awarded the contract. And with any

[1:06:29] other questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

[1:06:31] » Yeah, I'll touch on the uh the Kelfield top lot storm drain project. The Zenesk

[1:06:38] ticket I sent was 3033. Uh what that did was, as you said, you

[1:06:45] had some challenges with the top lot. You built it up over 2 foot. We are

[1:06:51] within a waiver that allowed that to go. you pulled that permit from getting done

[1:06:57] so that the you could attach the fitness pad to that waiver.

[1:07:02] » I'm not familiar with your term waiver, but go ahead.

[1:07:04] » You so will your word. So you said you

[1:07:09] impervious area expand for the permitting of it when we

[1:07:14] discussed it. >> Not familiar with your word waiver.

[1:07:17] » Okay. What what word is it that you were using? So we had a permit a grading

[1:07:22] permit with Calbert County to install the top lot and the storm drain project.

[1:07:26] We the typical process is to close that permit out you submit as bills which we

[1:07:31] did. They review the storm water side of the as bills and we submit our final as

[1:07:35] bills which we did. When the fitness pad came up we asked them to not release the

[1:07:41] permit at this time because we will likely revise it to include the fitness

[1:07:45] pad. So when I say waiver, what I'm referring

[1:07:50] to is the allowed area up to x amount of square feet,

[1:07:56] right? I believe it's 5,000 square ft. >> No.

[1:07:59] » Okay. [snorts] Um >> wait minute, let me explain. That's not

[1:08:02] correct. Up to 5,000 ft² does not require a grading permit. This project

[1:08:06] has a grading permit. Over grading permit, you can disturb as much as you

[1:08:09] want. It has limitations up to 20 acres where you have different um sequences

[1:08:14] for construction. But what we're talking about here is a grading permit, not

[1:08:18] something under 5,000 ft. >> Okay. So, we talked about raising the

[1:08:23] two two foot for the top lot. So, one thing we don't realize when we're at a

[1:08:27] town council meeting is after it rains and where water stands. I wrote around I

[1:08:34] submitted that ticket that had the pictures. The pictures the drain's not

[1:08:38] working. So the top lot and the the [clears throat] water, it's standing and

[1:08:43] people would have to walk through it or walk over where the building's on fire

[1:08:49] next to that to get by without walking through the water. Um, let me let me

[1:08:54] respond. I've not seen the ticket. I would love to see it and have a

[1:08:57] conversation with you offline about that. There are areas where the building

[1:09:00] caught on fire where those parking lots that are private parking lots have sunk

[1:09:04] and there is standing water in the parking lots. has nothing to do with

[1:09:07] with the kum top lot. >> The pictures I have are pretty good. You

[1:09:12] can see there's uh soil in it. And then I also show the other side of Kellums

[1:09:17] where there's standing water after the rain has stopped so that you can see

[1:09:21] after a rain event, not even a big rain event, where the water's standing. So

[1:09:26] then we could say, "Wow, are we going to push that flooding to people down the

[1:09:30] road?" So again, I'd love to see the pictures and have a conversation

[1:09:33] offline, but those devices are designed to hold water up to 4 48 hours. They're

[1:09:37] required to filter the water before it's released, but happy to have the

[1:09:40] conversation. I don't have the information for

[1:09:41] » No, no problem. It's ticket 3033. >> I'll be sure to get a copy of it.

[1:09:47] [clears throat] >> The um the water park, we're doing 13

[1:09:52] test piles. Is that right? >> We're doing three test piles.

[1:09:56] » We're doing 13 restrikes. >> Three test piles. 13. We're restructing

[1:09:59] the old piles to confirm their capacity and we're doing three new test piles.

[1:10:04] » Okay. And can you just let the public know like what are the three new test

[1:10:08] piles? What's the purpose of those? >> So when you have a pile of foundation,

[1:10:11] you need to figure out how long and how big your piles need to be to support

[1:10:14] your weight you're looking for. So only way to really do that, you have geotech

[1:10:18] reports which kind of project it, but to confirm it, we actually go drive three

[1:10:23] three piles before we drive the rest of the piles. We do that in three different

[1:10:26] areas of the park because the soils may be different in different areas of the

[1:10:28] park and that gives us our our pile capacities which tells us how long our

[1:10:32] piles need to be and how big our piles need to be before we order them. That's

[1:10:35] what we're doing. >> And correct me if I'm wrong, but um I

[1:10:39] believe that the where the water amenity was is where the piles were in the

[1:10:44] existing, but we're going to expand that. Is that not correct, Jay?

[1:10:48] » Sure. And just from dealing with members of the pug and being over there every

[1:10:51] day with other stuff just to you know layman's terms everyone thinks you drive

[1:10:56] a pile down and you hit a substrate clay or something and that's bottom of that

[1:11:01] stilt if you will now it's holding but there's also these piles are so long

[1:11:04] there's what's called the friction load on the outside of the pile whether you

[1:11:08] hit a hard bottom or not. So in the restrike, those been there so long, they

[1:11:12] want to understand if we change, if we add weight and you change that friction

[1:11:15] load, does it increase? Does it not? In the new piles, the test, hey, we're

[1:11:19] going to beat it and they have a dimension. When it stops moving so much

[1:11:23] for each hit, they know they've reach that friction, then they come back and

[1:11:27] hit it another time. I just talked to too many people about it lately, and

[1:11:31] there's different technologies, but it's not a it's a matter of, okay, how wide

[1:11:35] do they need to be? How many do we have to add? Are we going per plant? I think

[1:11:38] everything I've seen so far is in good shape, but the proof's in the pudding

[1:11:42] and and the equipment showed up today, so the thing will be there to do it. Um,

[1:11:49] I've just had that conversation with a lot of public and maybe it'll save me a

[1:11:52] few more conversations saying it here, but thanks. [laughter]

[1:11:55] » How long does that process do you you said the equipment's here and then how

[1:12:00] long do you expect that process to take? >> I don't I don't want to speak for Wayne.

[1:12:04] the the uh restrikes they they actually if you look at the construction site the

[1:12:08] demo contractor left the bottom of the river so he can travel this crane along

[1:12:14] with a good surface not damage the grade beams he thinks he can do the seven or

[1:12:19] the 13 rest strikes in two days driving the new three piles in one day um and it

[1:12:25] takes about a week to get that back we'll have the information but once they

[1:12:29] mobilize the intent is to then fill in the gaps uh once they learn that study

[1:12:35] Gotcha. And so, um, if I remember, it's a long process, but, um, once we take

[1:12:42] the top off, we have to hurry up and get the bottom. We have, we need to get back

[1:12:46] on very quickly. Um, I imagine that's planned as the owner's representative.

[1:12:54] Does he have like a date by or how's that being?

[1:12:59] » I got this. So, we we received a draft schedule today from Shyel now that we

[1:13:04] know that the pile driver is on site. I haven't looked at it yet. Um, but I know

[1:13:08] what you're talking about. The concern is if we leave that place open, a bunch

[1:13:10] of water gets there and damages the bottom. The way they're demoing that,

[1:13:14] they've actually crushed a lot of lot of the concrete and they've made their own

[1:13:17] pad. So, that's good. Uh, we're preventing water from getting getting in

[1:13:21] there. Uh, once these restrikes are done and we can order the piles, they're

[1:13:24] ready to go. Um so they will be in there put putting um piles in and additional

[1:13:29] screw piles in and finishing that floor as fast they can.

[1:13:33] My last question, the budget discussions is just so that you have the books in

[1:13:38] front of you to watch or is there >> that's one re that's one reason.

[1:13:43] » My understanding was we approved a a price.

[1:13:46] » You did you you approved a budget and that as you go as you can imagine as you

[1:13:51] go through design things change, numbers change and if you'll remember there was

[1:13:55] a contingency in there and we were able to share some that's what we're working

[1:13:58] on. So now that we have the final design, we have final numbers. We're

[1:14:01] [snorts] just adjusting those to make sure as we go forward, we we can track

[1:14:04] those numbers. >> Okay. There's no big budgetary concern

[1:14:09] to. >> No. And there's been some value

[1:14:11] engineering things. As you get the designs and the engineers suggest

[1:14:14] things, the electrician says, "Hey, why why don't we do it this way? It'll save

[1:14:17] you some money." Or the mason says, "Why don't we do it this way? It'll save you

[1:14:20] some money." When you see my report, we're talking about value engineering

[1:14:23] meeting. That's what we're doing. We're trying to whittle that that price down

[1:14:26] to get it as low as we can to start and then watch it as we go forward.

[1:14:32] » Thank you for answering both of you for answering those questions.

[1:14:36] » Wayne, I I forwarded you an email just now with the rest of the council um that

[1:14:42] supports what conversation I was saying. Uh especially with says D Street Widen.

[1:14:47] Uh that's not when I'm talking to the the administrator like the the people

[1:14:53] who kind of work on that plan that I'm hearing that's not there's a whole

[1:14:58] process that's supposed to take place and I don't think we have that

[1:15:02] administrative process in town for this D street widening project I see on your

[1:15:06] report. So since it's in my report and you commented on it, um the DC street

[1:15:12] widening was part of the pavement widening program in anticipation of

[1:15:16] getting pro approval of that from the Ches Bay critical area commission. We

[1:15:19] have submitted the Ches Bay critical area commission. The requirement when

[1:15:22] you add paving in the critical area is to is to provide storm water management.

[1:15:26] And Dan, I want to clarify there's a difference between storm water

[1:15:28] management and storm drainage. I think you're confusing the two, but I'm not

[1:15:31] going to go into that. have have it contract contact uh connection

[1:15:36] in a area where you have IDA which is what you are intense

[1:15:39] development area the entire town is intense development area you have to

[1:15:41] prove provide and prove that when you add impervious area you reduce the

[1:15:45] pollutant load to the bay by more than 10%. And that's that's a computation

[1:15:49] that we do. We've done that and we provide storm water management devices

[1:15:53] to pro provide that that pollutant reduction. In this case, our design was

[1:15:57] to add plants along the edge of edge of the road that's been completed. I think

[1:16:00] it's been submitted to critical commission so that once we get that

[1:16:03] approval, we can do that widening. But we'll have that conversation offline.

[1:16:07] » Yeah, I submitted the uh a lot of that stuff. Everybody said they're looped in

[1:16:12] on that.

[1:16:16] » All right. Let's move on to

[1:16:21] uh the Twin Verses patrol uh sheriff's uh

[1:16:27] » Sergeant Nordon. Welcome. >> Good evening everyone.

[1:16:34] » Received a copy of the >> Yep. Okay. The month of July, the

[1:16:40] sheriff's office responded to 189 calls for service. uh the slightly up from the

[1:16:46] 172 that we responded to in June. Out of that, we had 645 self-initiated

[1:16:53] activities such as patrol checks, traffic enforcement, traffic stops, and

[1:16:56] follow-ups. Of the 189 calls for service, some of

[1:17:01] note, we had several thefts. The one I'd like to speak on was from July 24th. Uh,

[1:17:07] a couple of my deputies responded to Richfield Station for active subjects

[1:17:11] breaking into vehicles and all subjects were caught. Um, I don't have the

[1:17:16] figures in front of me on how many vehicles exactly they broke into, but

[1:17:20] they identified numerous victims and they were all charged accordingly. So, I

[1:17:24] would like to commend the deputies for that one. Um, had several DUIs due to

[1:17:29] heavy traffic enforcement, few assaults. Uh

[1:17:34] there was a burglary on there, fourthderee burglary. I figured people

[1:17:38] would have a question about that when they see that word and everybody gets a

[1:17:42] little uneasy. Um this was a subject we arrested him a couple times over in

[1:17:46] North Beach and he made his way down here from PG County. We're not sure how

[1:17:52] uh we were able to get in contact with his sister in PG County. He has a

[1:17:56] multitude of mental health issues. um and we were able to get them linked back

[1:18:02] together and get him into a facility. Um but he did receive several charges over

[1:18:08] here on our on Chesapeake Beach side and North Beach side during his one or two

[1:18:12] week uh visit here with us. So, but just to let everyone know that was an

[1:18:16] isolated incident uh subject, you know, not walking down the street actively

[1:18:23] breaking into houses. This was just a mental ill subject who entered someone's

[1:18:26] home. So, any questions, concerns?

[1:18:32] » You guys do a great job. And um I had something stolen and not only did you

[1:18:38] catch the person, this is a couple years back, um

[1:18:42] everything somehow got returned to me. It was strewn all about my neighborhood

[1:18:46] and uh all day long people brought little pieces of my wallet back to me.

[1:18:51] So, um >> um we don't have much crime here and I'm

[1:18:54] very thankful for that. try to keep it that way. U I do actually have an open

[1:18:59] case right now that's a theft and the gentleman keeps contacting our property

[1:19:03] manager to get his stuff back. And I said hasn't gone to court yet. That's

[1:19:06] evidence right now. We kind of need that, you know, to prove our point in

[1:19:09] court. So we always ask citizens to just be patient with us. It's the judicial

[1:19:14] process, you know, when we're handling stuff like that. Court takes a while and

[1:19:17] soon as we're done, you'll be able to have it back.

[1:19:20] So, >> I know this is uh North Beach, but I do

[1:19:22] want to say the first Fridays, I think, is going really well with the new uh

[1:19:26] layout, and I've seen a lot of positive uh feedback.

[1:19:29] » We don't want to jinx that. No, >> no, it's um the last two have gone

[1:19:34] smoothly, so we've increased deputies there. Uh

[1:19:37] » feedback from the citizens is very positive. So, um I've heard good things

[1:19:41] about summer nights, too. Uh citizens are enjoying that. And we did have uh

[1:19:45] good feedback for uh July 3rd. It feels like it was months ago, but last month,

[1:19:51] well, it was fireworks, but that was a successful evening as well. We didn't

[1:19:55] have any uh major incidents during that uh thankfully. Yep. We can talk about it

[1:20:00] now. It's past. [laughter] But so

[1:20:05] assist motor motorist that was a little higher. Um is that normally higher in

[1:20:10] the summer or was it? >> Uh depends. I mean that can be a number

[1:20:14] of things. uh the assist motor. Sorry, I'm just trying to pull up that

[1:20:18] spreadsheet. >> Uh 10 for the month, 58 for the year.

[1:20:22] » Yeah. So, I mean, that's that can be anything. You know, we see a car with

[1:20:26] its flashers on on the side of the road. I I get it all the time up here at the

[1:20:30] top of 260. They'll turn from the light here,

[1:20:33] » their phone will ring, they'll pull over and they put their flashers on. Well, I

[1:20:36] come up the road a few cars behind them. I pull in to check on them, make sure

[1:20:41] they're okay, see if they need assistance or anything. I have to label

[1:20:44] it as an assist mode. It's just uh how we categorize certain calls. Um so that

[1:20:49] would just it's just letting our dispatch know, hey, I'm out with a

[1:20:52] vehicle. They might be broken down. So they're prepared for me to ask for a tow

[1:20:55] truck or certain things like that. >> So no tire change service. Like I had a

[1:21:01] flat tire, haven't had one. I was like, "Ah, could have had."

[1:21:06] » I've changed a few tires this summer. I will say I don't publicly announce

[1:21:10] I've changed a few tires folks this time. Well,

[1:21:13] » I see I see that's always a highlight. You know what I mean? So, thank you.

[1:21:17] » Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Okay.

[1:21:20] » It's always good to see you here. >> Yep. Thank you, sir.

[1:21:22] » Thank you. >> All right. North Beach Volunteer Fire

[1:21:25] Department. Anything going on at the fire department? A

[1:21:29] » little bit. [laughter] >> It's good to see you, sir.

[1:21:32] » Good to see you. Greetings from uh President G and Chief Stanton. And I

[1:21:36] guess everybody got their statistical report emailed to them.

[1:21:39] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Have uh you know, knock on wood as

[1:21:43] far as emergencies go. We're slow right now. We're

[1:21:46] » That's a good thing cuz you're busy otherwise.

[1:21:49] » It is. It is very very much so. But uh yeah, we haven't had any earthshattering

[1:21:54] things go on or it's been relatively quiet out there. Just wrapping up the uh

[1:22:00] month with the 100th anniversary >> stuff.

[1:22:04] Yeah, that's great. Uh when we get to the mayor's report, I've got a few

[1:22:08] things to say about the 100th anniversary and the parade and and the

[1:22:13] uh the carnival. So, uh >> uh stick around for that.

[1:22:17] » I'll be here. >> I'm not too far not too much further

[1:22:20] down the uh down the road. >> Any questions from anyone or

[1:22:26] » No, I bought your book, but I have not read it yet. So, I I don't want to talk

[1:22:30] about it because I'll look really dumb. Are we talking Are we talking about this

[1:22:33] book? >> Yes, we're talking about that book. I do

[1:22:35] have it. >> Amazing piece of history.

[1:22:38] » This is This was recently published about the first hundred years of the

[1:22:43] North Beach Volunteer Fire Department, which is the oldest department in the

[1:22:46] county >> and company number one. And uh and

[1:22:51] despite the fact that they're the North Beach Volunteer Fire Department, they've

[1:22:54] been located in Ches Peak Beach ever since I've moved here in 1985.

[1:22:59] Uh but uh we don't uh hold that against them for not changing the name.

[1:23:03] [laughter] >> Thank you for being here. It's always

[1:23:05] good to have you here. >> All righty. Have a good evening.

[1:23:09] » All right. >> All right.

[1:23:16] Here's reporting games. Um

[1:23:25] sorry. Yeah. And so what you have on the screen there is uh some photographs that

[1:23:32] I took uh with my phone. And guess what? I was up in the air. Can you tell that I

[1:23:38] was on the ferris wheel when I took these with Becky? And uh that was uh a

[1:23:44] lot of fun. Uh, and you'll notice on the left-hand picture that the ladder trucks

[1:23:49] on the back side of the firehouse and it's all the way up in the air and

[1:23:53] there's uh, I think two members of the fire company uh, in the bucket up there

[1:23:58] and they were shooting pictures from the back side of the firehouse.

[1:24:02] » And so, okay, go to the next one. Now, this is a trip. I took a trip to South

[1:24:08] Carolina to visit my daughter and her family. Becky and I did. And on the way

[1:24:14] home, we were coming up Route 85. We were in western South Carolina. We were

[1:24:19] coming up Route 85 and I hit Route 29 um in North Carolina uh that runs in

[1:24:26] through Virginia and turns into Lee Highway in Fairfax County. And I was

[1:24:32] just talking to Becky and I said, "Well, you know, I went to I finished, uh, my

[1:24:38] last year of high school at a military academy that's very near where we are

[1:24:42] right now." And so, um, she says, "Well, why don't we go up there?" So, we did.

[1:24:49] And, uh, it's in Chadam, Virginia. It's called Hargrave Military Academy. it's

[1:24:55] uh operate it it's related to the southern it's southern baptist ministry

[1:25:01] and um I I went there voluntarily uh in my senior year of high school uh

[1:25:08] because I had I needed a class in summer school and I went there at the

[1:25:13] recommendation somebody to do this summer school. I was in Fairfax County

[1:25:17] at the time and when I got there, I really liked it. So, I decided to ask my

[1:25:24] mom and dad if I could do my senior year of high school there, which I did do.

[1:25:28] Um, and I'll be honest with you, that um uh changed a lot of things for me um

[1:25:36] because it's very strict military school, very disciplined, male only. Um,

[1:25:43] and uh, I I did very well there uh, in all in all of my classes and I was kind

[1:25:49] of didn't pay that much attention in public high school in Fairfax County. So

[1:25:54] anyway, we stopped there and we got a great tour. The picture on the left and

[1:25:59] the right is the same image. It's in the new chapel that recently was built and

[1:26:05] so we got to see that. Hit the next one, Wendy.

[1:26:09] Oh, and that was it for that. But at any rate, uh it was good to it was good to

[1:26:14] stop by there and to rebuild that relationship and um uh I I really

[1:26:21] enjoyed that. Now, Anthony, do you want to say anything about this?

[1:26:26] » Um yes. Well, that was during the Twin Beaches Community Health Coalition uh

[1:26:32] Red, White, and Warrior Challenge, which was a part of Uplift uh Calbertt um

[1:26:39] festival. And that is a part of the 140T obstacle course that I really tried to

[1:26:47] get Bruce to run, but he kept telling me he was too tired

[1:26:51] to do it. >> Um but, uh we had people that come out

[1:26:55] to compete. We had a a nice group of teams and we were able to raise over

[1:26:59] $1,400 for the uh for the American Legion Post up the street. So, we did

[1:27:07] pretty good.

[1:27:10] » But next time we're definitely going to get Bruce to do it. He was a little shy

[1:27:14] because he he really wanted to I had shorts for him and everything.

[1:27:18] » I heard uh Chris did it right. [laughter]

[1:27:21] » He did do it. He did indeed. He did a good job. Anybody who did it did a good

[1:27:25] job. Period. >> I was there. I was there.

[1:27:28] » You was there. >> Yeah. And I uh I I thought that that was

[1:27:31] a great event and I think a lot of people had a lot of fun. And Chris, did

[1:27:35] you want to say anything?

[1:27:39] » You don't want to add anything further to that?

[1:27:42] [laughter] >> Chris?

[1:27:48] » Yeah. >> And she did a really good job.

[1:27:52] But that was that was a lot of fun. and I commend you for putting this together.

[1:27:55] I I really think that this is the type of thing that the citizens of the town

[1:28:00] and the area can really embrace and enjoy. So, thank you for

[1:28:06] » thankful for the people who came out here.

[1:28:10] » And again, we we mentioned um we talked a little bit about Fishing Creek

[1:28:14] already, so I don't think I need to say anything more about that. Um and then

[1:28:20] the we talked a little bit about the the um

[1:28:24] the water park already. Uh the 100th anniversary this book was published um

[1:28:31] by the it was uh John Tippet wrote this book

[1:28:36] about the fire department and do you want to come back forward and comment on

[1:28:40] this? This thing is is absolutely spectacular and detailed. Uh and they're

[1:28:46] available. They are available for uh purchase at $60 a piece. The uh Chief

[1:28:53] Tippet just put in a ton of time and it seems like every, you know, he would go

[1:28:59] home pretty much every night and write this book. I mean, he wrote this thing

[1:29:03] by himself and he went through old file cabinets and old [clears throat] drawers

[1:29:12] and everything. and it seemed like every time he'd get something done, he'd find

[1:29:17] something brand new. >> Um, and it's amazing he he would point

[1:29:21] out that uh 60 70 years ago at their business meetings, they were discussing

[1:29:29] the same things that we discuss now, complaining about the cleanliness and

[1:29:33] people aren't picking up after themselves and this and that. And it's

[1:29:37] just, it's amazing how history just keeps repeating itself. And uh I' I

[1:29:43] bought one of the books, but I have not had a I've looked at it, glance through

[1:29:48] it, but I haven't had time to sit down and really go through it, but

[1:29:51] » Well, you all been a little busy at the fire department.

[1:29:53] » Yeah. Uh it's uh it's quite the accomplishment what he's was able to put

[1:29:58] down in that book. >> Like I say, they are for purchase if uh

[1:30:01] I think uh the base height history museum has some or you can come by the

[1:30:06] firehouse and and get them. uh Chief Tippet put this whole effort out from

[1:30:12] his pocket. So he fronted the book and he paid for it and everything. So if you

[1:30:17] go and buy it and they say uh you know make to check out the John Tippet, it's

[1:30:22] not he's not committing any fraud or anything. He's uh he's not making a

[1:30:26] profit off of it either. If there is any money that uh comes out, it's going to

[1:30:31] go back to the firehouse. He wanted to do a hard coverver book, which would

[1:30:34] have been outstanding, but it would have been, I think the publisher said, $300

[1:30:38] to $350 a piece. >> So, unfortunately, we we couldn't pull

[1:30:44] that off. >> Right. Well, thank you. And there is a

[1:30:47] copy of uh of this in the back. If any of you here that are visiting tonight

[1:30:53] want to take a look at it, just look at it on your way out. So,

[1:30:57] » yeah. In other words, see them before you buy them. But uh but I I I would

[1:31:03] encourage you to to support the fire department. I mean, it's uh instrumental

[1:31:07] here in the town. And I and and then of course I have a special uh u uh

[1:31:13] connection to the fire department cuz I did have a house fired that took me out

[1:31:16] of my put me out of my home for a year. Um and I was talking to the previous

[1:31:22] chief. I'm trying to think of his name. >> Chris Mills. Chief Mills.

[1:31:25] » Yeah. He he um he told me at the event uh at uh that if if we had been

[1:31:35] if the call had gone in just another minute or two later, my house would have

[1:31:39] burned right down to the ground. And you don't realize how valuable the fire

[1:31:44] department is until you have a fire. Unbelievable. I mean, because um that we

[1:31:51] were out of our house for an entire year to rebuild it. Um, and my house is a

[1:31:57] duplex, so it's attached to another home, and the home that was attached to

[1:32:00] it wasn't damaged at all. The people that, and they're volunteers,

[1:32:05] they're all volunteers. So, you I can't say enough about how lucky we are to

[1:32:12] have the North Beach Volunteer Fire Department, the first one in Cal County

[1:32:16] located in Chesapeake Beach here. And these people are willing to serve. And

[1:32:22] another thing that's uh interesting about that is uh my great nephew is a

[1:32:27] professional firefighter for Prince George's County and he lives outside of

[1:32:32] the town limits but with a Chesapeake Beach address but he is a member of the

[1:32:36] North Beach Volunteer Fire Department as well.

[1:32:38] » He just recently had a baby and uh just >> he's been a little preoccupied

[1:32:44] preoccupied with >> we're seeing him we're seeing him more

[1:32:46] and more every day which is a great he's he's great.

[1:32:49] » Yeah. Yeah. So again, a round of applause for North Beach Volunteer

[1:32:53] Firefighters. >> Thank you.

[1:32:55] » Another interesting thing in the book is there's it's not only there's a lot of

[1:32:59] pictures of the town from way back in the day. So if you just like history and

[1:33:04] nostalgia to see what this place used to be, there's there's a lot of pictures in

[1:33:08] there of that also. >> Yeah,

[1:33:10] » that's great. >> And uh I just want to comment, the

[1:33:13] carnival is really well organized. I'm seeing a lot of positive feedback on

[1:33:17] that. I took my kids uh last night. We had a good time and I understand that

[1:33:21] the fire department gets a portion of that back. So,

[1:33:23] » yes. Yeah, it's uh well, we're hoping that it comes somewhat close to being

[1:33:29] able to offset the money we've spent on this 100th anniversary.

[1:33:32] » Oh, okay. >> Cuz we've uh we've had to spend quite a

[1:33:35] bit, too. >> We had a gala over here at the rod and

[1:33:38] reel that >> wasn't cheap, but it was you know, you

[1:33:41] only >> we're only going to see a hunter once.

[1:33:44] » Yep. >> So, we we decided we might as well

[1:33:47] » do it up. But they uh shout out to Will Callas, one of our members. He uh he has

[1:33:54] been working on this thing for a year and uh I've been working with him on a

[1:33:59] lot of the stuff and just the amount of time and effort that he's put into it

[1:34:03] has been incredible. And so far I've heard I honestly haven't been down there

[1:34:09] yet. Uh I have had everything this week. I've had to take care of different

[1:34:15] things. just had to go to a seminar last night, wife's birthday tomorrow night.

[1:34:19] Uh, Orioles game Saturday. I don't know if that's going to happen or not, but

[1:34:23] uh, everything I've heard has been really, really good feedback on it.

[1:34:28] » Take my word for it cuz I' I've been there apparently more than you have.

[1:34:31] » Yeah, >> I was amazed. I didn't I didn't think

[1:34:35] they'd be able to pull it off and get all those rides and everything in the

[1:34:38] lot, but they did. And >> uh, hopefully we we can make this a

[1:34:42] tradition and we'll keep it up. Maybe not in August, maybe more in the fall or

[1:34:48] more in the spring, but uh we had to plan it in August for the 100th. So, but

[1:34:52] we're going to go back and look at everything and hopefully we can pull it

[1:34:56] off and keep it up as a neighborhood kind of thing.

[1:34:58] » As I recall, it was done since I moved here in 1985. That's been done before

[1:35:03] there. >> It it has been done at the fire I never

[1:35:06] saw it at the firehouse. I've been here for about 20 years and I remember

[1:35:11] » taking my daughter down to the >> uh the gravel lot down there when they

[1:35:15] had the carnival down there, >> but uh they did they did do it at the

[1:35:19] firehouse and they pulled it off again. So,

[1:35:23] » that's great. Well, congratulations and please extend the council and my

[1:35:28] congratulations back to the chief and and everybody that's responsible.

[1:35:33] » We'll do. Thank you. Um,

[1:35:38] one other note, uh, for the mayor's report. Uh, well, we have some pictures

[1:35:43] that I shot today. Um, no, that's not today. Um, because it's down further

[1:35:49] than that, but that's some pictures I shot um of of the construction or or

[1:35:54] demolition that's going on at the at the water park. And the uh the only place

[1:35:59] that that uh you can take pictures is through the uh the fence right on the

[1:36:05] street because the rest of it's got a shield around it. Uh yeah, and that one

[1:36:10] looks like it was today because the top of that was down. But um I I uh I shot a

[1:36:16] lot of stuff, but these were the ones that we picked to show you tonight. Uh

[1:36:21] okay. >> Oh, that No, that was a video.

[1:36:26] Oh, didn't play it up there. All right. Well, then the only other thing I um I

[1:36:31] have to mention is a couple of birthdays. Um

[1:36:35] uh this coming Saturday, um you've heard of Roland's grocery

[1:36:40] store. Roland himself, Roland Peller, will turn 88 years old on Saturday.

[1:36:48] and he um you can always find him at the American Legion if if the black Cadillac

[1:36:55] uh SUV is up there. Roland is there. Uh and he he's he's there a lot. Um and I

[1:37:02] there's a little story about Roland that I'll share with you. I uh it is working.

[1:37:08] Oh, you got it to work. You're good. Um but just let it roll. Um Roland uh when

[1:37:14] I was um after my one year of college, I went to

[1:37:21] uh drive a truck for my dad for delivering newspapers in Washington DC

[1:37:26] and in Rockville, Maryland uh two different times. And the Washington DC

[1:37:31] route that I had was southeast Washington on the uh inside away from

[1:37:37] the Anacostia River up toward the Capitol and so forth. And on I think it

[1:37:42] was either fourth or seventh street and uh Pennsylvania Avenue Southeast there

[1:37:47] was a delicateess in there that was one of my stops where I put newspapers.

[1:37:52] Okay. And it was called Roland's and yes it was Roland Pelleter.

[1:37:57] and so um and his family and uh so I I didn't get to know him then but when I

[1:38:06] moved here and then the store was built um I uh I approached him and and I was

[1:38:15] actually there for the ground break breaking. There's a picture uh of of us

[1:38:19] at the groundbreaking. Um and um and also uh there's a shovel

[1:38:26] that's if you go into Roland's and you turn in toward the uh vegetable side,

[1:38:32] you know, and you look up on the wall, there's a a box, a glass box that has a

[1:38:36] shovel in it, and there's a $100 bill up there. And that $100 bill has my

[1:38:42] signature on it cuz I was the very first customer at Rollins.

[1:38:46] » And so I just wanted to share that with you. Uh, and the main reason that that

[1:38:50] came to mind is that Roland Pelleter's birthday is Saturday and he'll be 88

[1:38:54] years old. And so if you ever go to the American Legion, he's there most of the

[1:38:59] time. If you see the black Cadillac in front, he's there. And uh, if you do

[1:39:03] happen to see him um, anytime in the re near future, wish him a happy 88th

[1:39:08] birthday. And I'll also mention that uh, yesterday

[1:39:13] um, my I have one brother uh, his name is Barry. He lives in Northern Virginia

[1:39:19] in uh near Manasses and uh yesterday was his 80th birthday. So I'm just proud of

[1:39:26] my brother having his 80th birthday. Thank you for indulging me and and and

[1:39:36] Commissioner Graasso, I'm happy that you're here. Is there anything you want

[1:39:39] to say to the public? No. No politicking.

[1:39:44] » No politicking. Welcome. We're so glad you're here with

[1:39:48] your husband. >> Well, I'm glad to be here. Um, just

[1:39:51] wanted to mention that National Night Out, I was here and I had a citation for

[1:39:57] all of you and um, as you >> that it's in my office.

[1:40:01] » Okay. And as usual, you all do such a great job. It's always very well

[1:40:07] attended, the vendors, everything that's here, the fire department, the police

[1:40:12] department. It's just great. And I just wanted to announce if you did not see

[1:40:16] our meeting on Tuesday, we did vote to put a moratorum on data centers. Uh it's

[1:40:24] a six-month moratorum. It's not long enough. It will be extended, but we were

[1:40:30] glad to get off the ground with some safeguards in place and to get the

[1:40:34] six-month moratorum. the end of September, we will be in motion to

[1:40:40] reverse the zoning from uh high high industrial high industrial back to what

[1:40:48] it was, which it was 2F's farming and something else. So I think those two

[1:40:54] together, but I think the zoning is the most important aspect of the whole

[1:40:59] thing. Once we get that back, it is really going to hamstring

[1:41:03] um anybody who wants to come in here and uh I think the new board is going to be

[1:41:09] uh a lot more transparent and cognizant of what the people want. The people did

[1:41:15] a beautiful job. Before I became a county commissioner, I was them. I was

[1:41:21] behind that um microphone raising hell about what I didn't like about what was

[1:41:26] going on and I was pretty consistent with it. So even though as an elected

[1:41:31] official, you know, you want everything to be wonderful and everybody to like

[1:41:35] you, it ain't going to happen. And if you're if you don't have the strength to

[1:41:41] be a leader, this job isn't for you because we work for the people and our

[1:41:46] people let us know. 70% I think is the um amount of individuals in Calvert

[1:41:54] County that are not for data centers. I read recently that um Governor Abbott,

[1:42:00] he's put a stop to them. Um he his parameters are he doesn't want anything

[1:42:06] else in his state unless they bring their own electricity and their own

[1:42:10] water source. And one thing that I thought was very interesting, he does

[1:42:15] not want data centers in rural locations. Hello, that's Calvert County.

[1:42:21] We are 100% rural. So, I hope everybody's happy with that. But I'm so

[1:42:26] glad that we were finally able to get that through. Um Dr. Janette Wasaki,

[1:42:31] she's on part of our environmental com commission and um they gave us some

[1:42:37] really good advice that was not taken. But now, uh, there are reversals and,

[1:42:44] um, I told her I'm going to need her help with the whole board is because

[1:42:49] what we want to do, what we want to have in place is, um, studies that are not

[1:42:55] off the shelf, but studies that are unique to our small county, our county

[1:43:02] that uh, is a peninsula. So, our studies will be done just for Calvert County.

[1:43:09] So, I think that's really good news. Also want to say that um our uh

[1:43:15] sheriff's department, our sheriff's deputies are second to none. They keep

[1:43:19] us safe. Um I I can't say enough good things about them. And also, I've been

[1:43:25] very fortunate to participate in all the 100th anniversary uh activities with the

[1:43:31] North Beach Volunteer Fire Department. It's a great group of men and women. I I

[1:43:36] have always since I become a commissioner and got to know them

[1:43:40] better. I have always been a great admirer of them. They have a cadet

[1:43:46] program. They have young people who are there. I I I've seen the older people

[1:43:52] say, "Did you do this? Did you do that?" And I think to myself, what a great

[1:43:56] discipline for them. What great examples for them to work with the men and women

[1:44:01] North Beach Volunteer Fire Department. and I can't say enough. Um, I think

[1:44:06] that's about all. Thank you all so much for the job that you do. And, um, as I

[1:44:12] always say, I work for you. That's why I make the big money. So, if you, uh, if

[1:44:19] you all ever have anything that you need me to help you with, anything you're a

[1:44:24] little ticked off about, anything you're happy about, don't hesitate to call me

[1:44:28] because I work for you. Thank you so much.

[1:44:30] » Well, thank you for joining us tonight. Great to see you. Great to see you both.

[1:44:36] » All right. Uh, we'll call that the end of the mayor's report.

[1:44:41] Now, we're going to move on to resolutions and ordinances. We have

[1:44:45] » Mayor, if I would ask, I would like to ask a clarification question in regards

[1:44:49] to this before we get started on this. um in direct relation to that May 21st

[1:44:55] uh 2026 meeting uh in the definition and understanding of the quorum. A C306

[1:45:01] quorum. A majority of the members of the council shall constitute a quorum for

[1:45:06] the transaction of business, but no ordinance shall be approved nor any

[1:45:10] other action taken without the favorable votes of a majority of the whole number

[1:45:16] of members elected to the council. I thought in May we understood uh that to

[1:45:23] be four and now tonight we seem to have a different understanding. I'd just like

[1:45:28] clarification before we start this next um bit.

[1:45:40] » A majority of the whole members of council is four.

[1:45:45] » So >> correct. So for any business it takes

[1:45:49] four to pass. Correct. >> A majority of the council is four

[1:45:59] » elected to the council. So the >> the majority is four. Correct. So So it

[1:46:05] takes four votes to pass.

[1:46:10] » Are you speaking definitively for ordinances or are you talking about

[1:46:12] agenda? >> I'm I'm speaking for clarification. So

[1:46:16] we make sure we're cuz on May 21st >> Mhm.

[1:46:21] » there was uh there was I think John was on vacation

[1:46:28] and there was a a lot of ripples about that. So if we're saying that for

[1:46:32] business so it says ordinance or business right so business I was told

[1:46:38] that nope three is the vote. So I'd like to have what that understanding is

[1:46:44] before we move forward with this. Okay. So, council, I think the question is, is

[1:46:48] there a difference between voting for um agenda items so on and so forth and

[1:46:54] versus ordinances on what the actual count vote count should be with foreign

[1:46:57] attendance?

[1:47:02] » You can't transact business without a majority of members of the council.

[1:47:08] An ordinance cannot be approved, nor any other action taken. I read that to be

[1:47:14] with respect to an ordinance without the favorable votes of a majority of the

[1:47:18] whole number of members elected to the council.

[1:47:20] » Thank you council. >> So that means that you have

[1:47:24] » so I have four votes to approve.

[1:47:29] » Okay, that answer your question. >> Did we have four votes for the agenda?

[1:47:34] So that's business, right? ordinance business

[1:47:38] » with respect to the ordinance otherwise the first section part of section C

[1:47:43] C-306 wouldn't would be meaningless so you don't it is a principle of statutory

[1:47:50] interpretation that you don't read um a legislative provision to make any part

[1:47:56] of it um superfluous or without meaning. So a majority of members of council

[1:48:02] shall constitute a quorum for the transaction of business. We're talking

[1:48:05] about general the general business of the council. A majority of members of

[1:48:09] the council shall shall constitute a quorum. No ordinance shall be approved

[1:48:14] or other action taken without a favorable votes of the majority of the

[1:48:17] whole number of members elected. That answer your question?

[1:48:22] » And I believe that that interpretation is consistent with the way council has

[1:48:26] operated for the last >> well since I started since before I

[1:48:30] started >> in 2010.

[1:48:34] » That answer your question? >> Yeah, that just uh seemed to be

[1:48:39] contradicting till earlier. Yeah, I think was not an

[1:48:44] ordinance and that's what business and ordinance is

[1:48:48] » different words. One starts with a B, the other one

[1:48:52] » business 100%. >> But you got to remember, you got to

[1:48:55] understand that the council let us know that when it comes to a ordinance,

[1:48:58] that's what you're talking about. Anything else is for us to keep the

[1:49:01] meeting moving forward. So, I understand what you're asking and what you want to

[1:49:05] make sure we got correct, but our council just said we got it correct.

[1:49:08] » Okay. Transaction of business. So, that's the word with that starts with a

[1:49:12] B right there. >> Gotcha.

[1:49:16] All right. Again, the business at hand

[1:49:20] » uh is to vote on ordinance 026-14, an ordinance of the town council,

[1:49:26] Chesapeake Beach, Maryland, amending the town code, chapter 290 zoning, article

[1:49:30] 3, zoning district section 290-10, land use table to prohibit data centers

[1:49:37] in all zones. And that's really uh in the code itself. That's a it's a minor

[1:49:43] change. Uh but it uh gets to what you were talking about, Commissioner

[1:49:48] Graasso, and so forth. So, I'll call for the vote.

[1:49:53] » I'm sorry. >> A motion to approve or we we can go on.

[1:49:56] » Are we approving the vote? >> Let's go through the right transactions

[1:50:00] and then um >> we have a motion to approve.

[1:50:14] Yes.

[1:50:17] » Okay. [clears throat] >> Turn the microphone back on.

[1:50:20] » Just on page four.

[1:50:25] » Oh, of the ordinance itself. >> Um, no. Um, my my comment is on the next

[1:50:31] one. >> All right. So, we're ready to vote on

[1:50:35] this. Yes.

[1:50:38] » Yes. To to prohibit data centers in all zones. All in favor of

[1:50:43] » a motion to approve. >> Need a second.

[1:50:46] » Motion in a second. Okay. >> I'll second.

[1:50:49] » All right. We have a motion and a second.

[1:50:50] » Here we go. >> Motion.

[1:50:53] » Yeah. >> Any further discussion?

[1:50:55] » Yes. the discipline we need to I think keep

[1:51:01] on our ordinances where they're introduced and that items written in and

[1:51:07] are are a little bit of housekeeping so that the uniformity is there. Uh

[1:51:14] this wasn't and isn't all the case. So if we look at the different ordinances

[1:51:19] some of them have the introduced pass and effective date, some of them don't.

[1:51:22] [clears throat] I think we should be uniformed when

[1:51:24] we're legislating.

[1:51:28] on this ordinance.

[1:51:32] Have we met the legal requirements to enact this?

[1:51:40] » Yes.

[1:51:45] » Any other questions? >> When was the introduced date?

[1:51:51] » It was introduced last month, right? It was introduced at the last meeting.

[1:51:59] July 16th. >> Mhm. All right.

[1:52:02] » If you look at the end part of the ordinance where it says as certified, it

[1:52:07] recites the date on which it was introduced.

[1:52:10] » Yeah. There's just a few of them that I had objections to from May that didn't

[1:52:14] follow that discipline. So, that's what just trying to make sure we're staying

[1:52:19] disciplined. Maybe we could bring it up in close

[1:52:23] section session to discuss >> what

[1:52:27] » the other ordinances we're talking about.

[1:52:30] » We do have a motion. We do have a second. All in favor of the motion

[1:52:34] signify by saying I >> I

[1:52:38] » I. >> All any opposed? No. The motion passes.

[1:52:42] The ordinance is as approved. Thank you.

[1:52:48] All right. Now, we're going to introduce ordinance

[1:52:52] 0-26-15, an ordinance of the town council, Chesig

[1:52:56] Beach, Maryland, amending the town code, chapter 290, zoning, article 3, zoning

[1:53:01] districts, section 290-11, conditions and standards for conditional

[1:53:07] and special exception uses to implement certain state requirements regarding

[1:53:13] accessory dwelling units. will set the public hearing for

[1:53:18] um September 17th at 6:15 p.m. >> Melissa, was this the ordinance?

[1:53:26] » Yes, I just um there's a just a typo on page 4.

[1:53:34] So there's um and it has to it's because I deleted a section that you all had

[1:53:39] asked me to delete at the work session and I left an or there a stray or

[1:53:44] » the end of 3 a sub 2 on page four. Oh yeah,

[1:53:53] » you would just cross through that. >> Also the table on page two

[1:54:00] » for the.5 EDUs. I think that six that 5001 needs

[1:54:05] » supposed to be changed >> 651, right?

[1:54:11] » I think that would be they can fix that before the next meeting, right? or

[1:54:16] » if I we fix these things before you vote on the introduction.

[1:54:24] » Oh, I see. >> That's better.

[1:54:26] » I don't have we don't have to show it as inter lineation. So, that's just why I

[1:54:29] brought it to attention. Um if you having noted that if you would

[1:54:35] when you introduce it introduce it as back to as we've just said

[1:54:44] those two respects that the or will be removed and the 501 in the chart will be

[1:54:48] changed to 650. >> I thought we had a consensus to uh

[1:54:52] remove M letter M as in Michael 1 M. I thought

[1:54:59] we had a consensus on that at the work session.

[1:55:11] I'm going to let Sarah address that. However, I went back and listened to the

[1:55:18] audio from that hearing when I was doing the amendments and I don't I don't

[1:55:23] recall that there was that consensus. However, um if if that is the intention

[1:55:28] of council, we can make that alteration as well. Sarah, did you have

[1:55:34] something you wanted to say? >> I was just going to say that there is an

[1:55:39] extra period in front of the five edus. I don't know

[1:55:44] if that matters or not. Um but since we were fixing things um I do not recall

[1:55:52] whether there was consensus on this piece or not. Um I do recall

[1:55:58] you saying that I had been um presuming that the state put this in here for a

[1:56:04] good reason and have been spending lots of time trying to think of what that

[1:56:09] good reason is, right? um and leaving it in out of an abundance of caution, but I

[1:56:15] have not been able to in the last eight 8 months, nine months come up with why

[1:56:22] it's there. So, if you do vote to remove one M about the alley access for

[1:56:32] converted accessory dwelling or converted structures, I don't I have not

[1:56:37] been able to come up with any negative impacts. So, it is up to you whether you

[1:56:42] leave it in or not. Yeah, maybe maybe if we can have I thought we had a consensus

[1:56:48] that maybe take one less thing off the uh the plate for next month.

[1:56:56] » So, we just corrected this ordinance and explain how we should be introducing it

[1:57:02] either now or next time. introduced.

[1:57:07] » So, it needs to be introduced as a corrected ordinance

[1:57:12] » because you haven't introduced it yet. I mean, I don't physically have a new

[1:57:16] piece of paper to give you, but if you all accept those corrections as um

[1:57:21] editing issues, then acknowledge that what you're introducing

[1:57:27] is the corrected version. It's not an amended version because you haven't

[1:57:31] introduced it yet. I'm just um if I had a piece of paper to give you as a

[1:57:36] substitute, I would. >> So,

[1:57:39] » if we are introducing this, we just agree here that it is in the corrected

[1:57:44] form as you and Sarah described. >> And then it will come out and be

[1:57:50] published by the town for the hearing >> proper way. Yes.

[1:57:53] » Corrected. >> Okay.

[1:57:56] » I would I would just say that the issue of 1 M is different from correcting.

[1:58:01] Yes. So, >> that is different.

[1:58:03] » I'm not removing that unless you all decide that it goes.

[1:58:08] » I I'm fine for them to motion and vote if there really was a consensus because

[1:58:14] » believe

[1:58:18] I believe there was a consensus on that. >> So, probably save us some time next

[1:58:22] month.

[1:58:29] So clarifying what you're saying is not to take M out at this point. You're

[1:58:34] saying when you all come to vote on M to take it out at or for him to motion and

[1:58:38] then if he has the votes to remove it, remove it at that time after it's been

[1:58:42] introduced. >> Yep. Okay, that work.

[1:58:46] All right, we can consider that introduced.

[1:58:51] » Mhm. >> We do. No, we just set a public hearing

[1:58:56] and we'll set the public hearing at 6:15 at the next regularly scheduled town

[1:59:01] meeting, September 17th. Okay,

[1:59:08] » chair. And I'm sending you the revision. It will have today's date on it so you

[1:59:12] can distinguish it from that.

[1:59:16] » All right, moving along. We want to introduce ordinance 0-26-16,

[1:59:23] an ordinance of the town council of Chesapeake Beach, Maryland, a amending

[1:59:26] chapter 263, urban forest section 263-4, prohibited acts and permits to limit

[1:59:34] restrictions on uh property owners in managing trees on private properties

[1:59:38] where their actions do not significantly impact the trees canopy. And we're going

[1:59:43] to set the public hearing to be just immediately following uh the previous

[1:59:48] one we discussed on September 17th. It'll follow after the hearings will

[1:59:53] start at 6:15 and go sequentially. And then we're going to introduce

[1:59:58] ordinance 0-26-17, an ordinance that the town council,

[2:00:03] Chesapeake Beach, Maryland, amending the town code, chapter 290, zoning, article

[2:00:08] 3, zoning district section 290-11, conditions and standards for conditional

[2:00:14] and special exception uses to permit the sale of uh certain items incidental to a

[2:00:22] home occupation. We will set the uh public hearing to follow the previous

[2:00:28] two public hearings on September 17th, which all three commence at 6:15

[2:00:35] p.m. All right, it is time to move forward to

[2:00:39] reports of boards, officers, boards, and committees, planning and zoning.

[2:00:48] So, the planning and zoning commission is continuing to work on the revised

[2:00:54] land use table and standards and conditions. Um, they did take a moment

[2:01:00] to review the uh parking study and waiver for the ADUs and give you a

[2:01:05] recommendation on that um on your ADU ordinance as is required by law. Um they

[2:01:15] also have begun discussing the coastal resiliency overlay. Um this is part of

[2:01:21] implementing the coastal resiliency plan. Uh I want to say that was 2023,

[2:01:28] but I might be mixing it up with another one. And so they they're going to do

[2:01:32] that through an overlay in the critical area zone that will reduce lot coverage

[2:01:39] and allow some more flexibility with height and base flood elevation for

[2:01:44] housing and maybe more flexibility for flood proofing as well.

[2:01:52] One thing that I've noticed um in like coastal towns is parking just

[2:02:00] has for your tires. So it's less impervious space.

[2:02:06] So maybe a concrete strip and a concrete strip versus paving the whole thing too,

[2:02:11] which um any I mean we're having potentially

[2:02:20] certain areas would have more development than other areas in town

[2:02:24] that use. Um,

[2:02:32] so I like we're discussing some of that, but maybe they also have like some

[2:02:37] pavers that I know we have like no grass paver, right? But they have where you

[2:02:44] can drive across um grass and they have like um

[2:02:51] I don't know yard pavers or something like that that can handle a truck or

[2:02:56] something like that and they're I think they're somewhat

[2:03:02] impervious but they have less of a rating to them. Are you familiar with

[2:03:06] what I'm >> not grass pavers but permeable pavers?

[2:03:11] Yes, I'm familiar with that. Um, >> and something like the two strips, uh,

[2:03:18] parking is really kind of governed by the lot coverage. So, when you have a

[2:03:22] lower lot coverage permitted, you may choose to do that for your driveway.

[2:03:27] » Okay. Thanks. >> A question about number two towards the

[2:03:31] end. Um, short-term rentals. I know they were discussed pretty heavily in the

[2:03:35] last administration. I was just wondering what like what uh are people

[2:03:40] coming to you and asking if we can allow them again or like

[2:03:44] » what's the discussion behind that? >> Um that's just part of the land use.

[2:03:52] Um the way we've done the land use table is now instead of just things that have

[2:03:56] conditions being regulated in it, it's going to be everything. Everything

[2:04:00] standards are going to be in there. So, they just want to discuss the short-term

[2:04:04] rental standards and get those solid for you all. I will say that the most

[2:04:10] frequent short-term rental requests I get are permit consultations, people who

[2:04:14] would like to build an ADU and rent it out as a short-term rental. And so, that

[2:04:19] concern comes from >> Right.

[2:04:22] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[2:04:24] » Thanks. >> Anything else? Planning a time. All

[2:04:28] right. Let's move to the board of appeals. Uh, no hearing was held, so

[2:04:33] we're done with that. Seox,

[2:04:38] hello there. How are you?

[2:04:42] » I'm good. Um, you have the report. The only thing I would say is we are

[2:04:46] starting to kick into gear for the fifth grade field trips. They start in two

[2:04:49] weeks. Um, we're getting the oysterium all set up. We've got our spat ready to

[2:04:54] go and we'll be out next week actually getting the live spat into the tank and

[2:04:58] running the pump and the water stuff. So, we're good for that.

[2:05:02] » That's what we're working on. >> That's great.

[2:05:04] » I remember when we started it. >> Yep.

[2:05:07] » A long long long time ago. >> So, thank you. Anybody got questions?

[2:05:12] » Anybody got any questions for >> Is there anything you need from us to

[2:05:16] make your job easier this season? >> This time? No.

[2:05:21] » Nope. >> Great program.

[2:05:23] » Thank you. >> Great. Well, thank you.

[2:05:29] » All right. Economic development. >> No report.

[2:05:34] » All right.

[2:05:40] » Green team. >> Green team.

[2:05:42] » Green team. >> Okay.

[2:05:46] » Oh. Uh, I saw Jan in the audience and Sue, so I assumed one of those to speak.

[2:05:53] Go >> Jan.

[2:05:56] [laughter]

[2:05:59] you have the report. Again, we're doing just doing our stuff. We have a proposal

[2:06:04] before the town administrator. I'm not sure where that it stands to put in the

[2:06:09] refreshed pocket park out at the far side of Kellum's Field. We're waiting on

[2:06:13] um a response on that and whether we can move forward. Um [snorts] other than

[2:06:18] that, oh, we have Paddle and Pathways picking up in September. That's Oh, I

[2:06:23] don't have the date on top of May. September 26th.

[2:06:27] Um, I believe that the registration form has been put out by it's actually run by

[2:06:33] Parks and Wreck. We do it in conjunction with them, but they take the lead on it.

[2:06:37] Um, they have a registration um site set up if anybody wants to register to come

[2:06:43] help us out that day. They will be running kayaks up the creek to do that

[2:06:48] part. We've got people who are going to be working the trail. We have people who

[2:06:52] will be doing the whole community center and Kellum's Field Cleanup. um depending

[2:06:56] on how many volunteers we get to come out and help with that. So, that's

[2:07:00] coming up soon. >> All I know is that I dug a tire out

[2:07:06] » last [laughter] year was out paddling and uh

[2:07:11] » it was a job. >> They might have a little trophy over

[2:07:14] there with the dragon boats, but I'd like to see who can get the biggest item

[2:07:19] out in the ring and clean up. >> What do you think there, John and

[2:07:23] Anthony? >> Hey, it's on my calendar. win every

[2:07:25] time. [laughter] >> It's on your calendar.

[2:07:27] » You won. >> I already got my I already got my what

[2:07:30] I'm picking out. I >> I'll provide the trophy.

[2:07:32] » You going to fly the trophy? >> So that's all I can think off the top of

[2:07:38] my head that we got going on. >> Beaches.

[2:07:40] » A lot of good things going on. That's a great event.

[2:07:42] » Yeah. >> So, how much trash did we get last year

[2:07:46] out? That was a good one. um bags of bags

[2:07:54] » at least 20 bags and I would estimate about you know it is covered in mud and

[2:07:57] left about 500 lb of trash >> and that was like just a few hours.

[2:08:03] » Yeah. >> A lot of the stuff particularly the

[2:08:05] storms came rolling in. We're getting a lot of stuff washed into the creek off

[2:08:09] the boats and stuff. So the end of the summer is always a big time to clean up

[2:08:13] the creek. The trail the trail gets enough of trash, but a lot of people are

[2:08:17] pretty conscientious because the trash cans are out there. It's not as big a

[2:08:21] deal. We pick up a lot of trash around Northeast Community Center. I know that

[2:08:25] was a big deal last year. Um, Kellum's Field is intermittent. Sometimes it's

[2:08:30] clean because they've picked up after themselves, whoever's using it. Um, and

[2:08:34] other times we do pick up trash there. So,

[2:08:37] » yeah. Thank you. >> Yep.

[2:08:39] » Thank you. >> My voice is worse. I hope you feel

[2:08:42] better. >> Oh.

[2:08:45] uh Twin Beach uh community health coalition. Anthony,

[2:08:51] » uh yes. So, we did just have the uplift Calbert Wellness Festival. We had a uh

[2:08:56] morning with exercises outside. I did the peach and boxing, but I did not do

[2:09:01] the yoga and pilates cuz I'm a tough guy. Um but it was fun. A lot of people

[2:09:06] came out and I had a great time. We had the um the uh championship, our first uh

[2:09:12] kind of American Ninja Warrior obstacle course. And like I said, I did bring

[2:09:17] shorts for Bruce, but he declined to actually participate. But we were able

[2:09:21] to raise a good amount of money for the uh Legion. Thankfully, um along with the

[2:09:28] people from the community who signed up to participate, uh Rod and Real cut a

[2:09:33] check for $1,000 as well. and that is on the in the on the way to them as a

[2:09:38] donation. So, it actually worked out pretty good. Uh the folks of the Legion

[2:09:42] are very happy and appreciative. And um we do now have a be the one

[2:09:46] representative here in Chesapeake Beach for uh anybody who's a veteran that's

[2:09:51] dealing with problems with PTSD or needs somebody to reach out to talk to. So, we

[2:09:56] were happy to facilitate that and make that happen. Uh also, uh August 31st is

[2:10:01] International Overdose Awareness Day. will be right over here at Kellum's

[2:10:04] Field at the Hope mural that was done by Katie Brinkley who you see do a couple

[2:10:08] of has done a couple other murals out here in uh North Beach and Ches Beach. I

[2:10:13] started that. Um but the the great thing about it is that uh we do have people

[2:10:18] that are sending in names of anybody who they've lost first and last names in

[2:10:22] their forever year. We're going to keep it on that Monday evening. We're going

[2:10:25] to start at 7:00 p.m. Uh we have um somebody from the health department

[2:10:30] coming out. Uh we have a pastor [clears throat] there to uh do the

[2:10:34] visual and then we'll say the names and honor and uh give folks some time to uh

[2:10:39] think about and uh respect their loved ones. Uh and that's August 31st. If

[2:10:43] anybody would [clears throat] like to be there, please be there. If anybody would

[2:10:46] like to have a loved one's name said, please email it to me and I will make

[2:10:50] sure that uh that they get their honor. Other than that, that is it for me.

[2:10:56] Thank you. >> Thank you.

[2:10:58] » What time did that event start? >> 7:00 p.m.

[2:11:00] » All right. It's on my calendar. >> Thank you.

[2:11:04] Uh walkability committee committee. >> Um uh I'll I'll keep it short because

[2:11:09] this has been a long meeting, but um my report is uh basically tracking our

[2:11:14] muchneeded infrastructure and I look forward to any updates on that every

[2:11:19] time and that is our group's main focus. But we also are looking forward to um

[2:11:26] Walktober and coming up with ideas that um can support the habit of walking

[2:11:31] within our community. And we have a new member um she's in the audience. I don't

[2:11:36] know if she likes to be called out or not, but um [laughter] she brought a lot

[2:11:40] of good ideas to the table. So our next meeting we're going to talk about um

[2:11:44] some of the ideas for Walktober and then our next Celebrate Trails Day. And

[2:11:49] » as always um >> we are our primary focus is advocating

[2:11:54] for our very much needed infrastructure um bicycle pedestrian infrastructure.

[2:12:03] » Great. Thank you. Um water park John.

[2:12:09] » Yep. Uh >> you had a meeting recently?

[2:12:11] » We had a meeting tonight for the first time in 3 months. I think we finally got

[2:12:15] some movement with the demolition and everything. And I've been coordinating

[2:12:19] with Jay on uh trying to get some items to the Bayside History Museum and um we

[2:12:25] also got some uh bricks from the old water park we've been giving to

[2:12:29] committee members and the community. So if you'd like a brick from the old water

[2:12:33] park, uh let me know. >> I think I would.

[2:12:42] Um, I don't see any unfinished business on the agenda. Has anybody got anything

[2:12:47] they want to raise? I didn't think so. New business. Uh, town council to

[2:12:53] consider the reappoint of Amy Everett to the board of appeals for a three-year

[2:12:56] term. Is Amy here? No. Anybody got anything to say about this?

[2:13:04] » Oh, I think she's a great choice. Um, and

[2:13:07] » because we got to wait for a D. That's what I was going to also say.

[2:13:12] » All right. Smoke him if you got him. Oh, no. You

[2:13:15] can't do that. >> That's what they told us in the army.

[2:13:19] There he is. He's back. I'll read it again. Town council to consider the

[2:13:23] reappoint of Amy Everett to the board of appeals for a three-year term. Is there

[2:13:27] a motion? >> Motion to approve.

[2:13:29] » Second. >> Second.

[2:13:31] » All in favor say I. >> I.

[2:13:33] » Opposed? The eyes have it. Thank you. town council to consider the appointment

[2:13:38] appointment of Lawrence Tob as council to the board of appeals and you're here.

[2:13:42] That's you, right? >> Why don't you come back to the podium

[2:13:45] one more time and we did meet at the work session.

[2:13:48] » Yes, sir. >> Uh there weren't as many people in the

[2:13:51] audience at that time. Uh and just briefly tell us again your background. I

[2:13:55] know it's extensive. >> Sure. Thank you. Uh yes, I've been a a

[2:13:59] lady's attorney predominantly in Prince George's County for I hate to say almost

[2:14:04] 50 years now. Uh but in the past number of years, I've also served as the city

[2:14:08] attorney for the city of Laurel. Uh in which time I've advised the board of

[2:14:13] appeals. Uh during my practice years, I appeared before the board of appeals. Uh

[2:14:17] I've also been uh council of the board of appeals in Sykesville and Carol

[2:14:21] County. Uh so I've had good experience on both sides of the table. Great.

[2:14:24] » And uh looking forward to working with the board of appeals for Chesig Beach.

[2:14:29] » Thank you. >> Uh is there a motion?

[2:14:32] » Motion to approve. >> Is there a second?

[2:14:34] » Second. All in favor say I. >> I.

[2:14:36] » Opposed. Welcome aboard. >> Thank you very much.

[2:14:39] » Thank you, sir. >> Thank you.

[2:14:45] » All right. Town council to consider the approval of the purchase of replacement

[2:14:49] benches of Veterans Park in the amount of $30,560.

[2:14:54] Jay, is there anything you want to say about this?

[2:14:58] just that uh their benches we removed honestly a while back because they were

[2:15:03] uh deteriorating and safety issues and we looked at other benches and things

[2:15:07] that would fit and really didn't find anything. Uh so these are going to be

[2:15:11] from the same provider Victor Stanley local and uh when we get them it's about

[2:15:16] 6 weeks uh once we approve it make payment and we'll install them.

[2:15:20] » How how long do those benches typically last?

[2:15:25] » They differ. The ones more exposed to the sun are shorter, but we, you know,

[2:15:29] the the park was built uh I remember going there when it was wasn't quite

[2:15:33] done with the original 911. So 15 16 years.

[2:15:39] » That's pretty good for that uh environment.

[2:15:42] » It is. It's um they're not cheap, but it's that you know, Veterans Park has a

[2:15:47] certain style that the teak benches we just ordered for the trail and the

[2:15:52] boardwalk obviously cheaper. Um, but it's not the same flavor.

[2:15:57] » Right. >> All right. Is there a motion to approve?

[2:16:01] » Motion to approve. >> Is there a second?

[2:16:03] » Second. >> All in favor say I.

[2:16:05] » I. >> Opposed. The eyes have it. Uh, town

[2:16:08] council to consider authorizing the mayor's signature on a lease agreement

[2:16:12] with BGE for the rental of space on the town water tower.

[2:16:17] » Um, is there a motion for approval? >> Motion to approve.

[2:16:21] » There a second. >> Second. Any discussion? All in favor say

[2:16:26] I. >> I.

[2:16:27] » Opposed. The eyes have it. It is time.

[2:16:35] » You're okay. >> Okay.

[2:16:38] It was a mental approval, right, Dan? >> Telepathy. All right. Great. Uh, this is

[2:16:46] the opportunity for public comment. Uh, if anybody has anything that they would

[2:16:50] like to bring to the town council's attention, now is the time to come

[2:16:53] forward.

[2:16:56] Is there anybody that wants to come forward?

[2:17:00] All right, seeing none, time for the lightning round. Let's start with Dan.

[2:17:07] » You mind if I start? I want to say something that's really important and I

[2:17:11] think Dan. Do you mind, Dan? Um,

[2:17:17] but I want to thank and and I know this this really goes to what Commissioner

[2:17:23] Graasso was saying about leadership. Councilman Duval had a good long

[2:17:29] conversation with me this week and told me his concerns about how we were

[2:17:36] looking at the data center, making sure that we weren't just looking at this as

[2:17:40] a form of appeasement or getting caught up in the fervor of what everybody is

[2:17:45] looking at from a political standpoint without having knowledge of it. And

[2:17:51] it's really important to listen to and and try to understand and come to common

[2:17:58] ground with your fellow council members. And I appreciated the hour and 30 minute

[2:18:03] conversation that I had with Dan cuz I was counting that we got to the

[2:18:08] consensus that he was able to understand why I really was pushing for him to make

[2:18:13] the vote that he did tonight. And I really want to thank you for partaking

[2:18:19] in that conversation with me, giving me the the chance to understand where you

[2:18:23] were coming from and you understanding where I was coming from because that's

[2:18:27] something that needs to happen when people who are elected or or put in

[2:18:33] positions of leadership. That's how we lead as a as a group. This

[2:18:38] is not a solo effort. This isn't something where somebody should be

[2:18:42] calling another person out or making them feel uncomfortable or saying what

[2:18:45] they should be doing or have to do. We have to work together. So, I appreciate

[2:18:50] you taking that time to really talk to me and us coming to a common ground so

[2:18:54] that we can do this for our community. So, thank you.

[2:18:58] That's it for me. >> Thank you. Anybody else have any

[2:19:03] comments to close with? Laura? >> Yeah. Yeah, I have written some

[2:19:07] comments. Um, >> is it four pages?

[2:19:10] » Mhm. >> Mhm.

[2:19:13] [laughter]

[2:19:16] » Um, so I am so relieved, impressed, and grateful for how our county as a whole

[2:19:24] navigated the data center issue to date, implementing a six-month moratorum on

[2:19:28] the approval process and approvals for site plans proposing data center

[2:19:33] development projects this past Monday. Thank you. So many local governments

[2:19:39] have made the same missteps while entertaining the rapidly evolving

[2:19:45] data industry for their areas as ours did at first.

[2:19:50] But not all citizens do or will have the same outcome after

[2:19:57] engaging as Calbertt County citizens can.

[2:20:02] This is thanks to informed citizens who took the time to further educate

[2:20:07] themselves and then to engage the public and our government with their concerns.

[2:20:13] It is also thanks to leaders of all types and from all corners of the county

[2:20:19] being willing to lend their skills, influence, and wisdom to the cause of

[2:20:25] protecting our county, the Chesapeake Bay, and its tributaries. And it's also

[2:20:30] thanks to elected commissioners who are willing to prioritize the voice of their

[2:20:35] constituents. And we are so lucky for that. Um, I can't think of a better

[2:20:41] testament to America's 250th anniversary than what I witnessed in the board of

[2:20:48] county commissioners meeting on Monday from the citizens, from um the staff,

[2:20:56] the county staff, from the elected leaders who will remain sitting and the

[2:21:01] elected leaders who will be leaving. It was a class act and it was the outcome

[2:21:06] that we needed and that um people that worked very hard petitioning their

[2:21:11] government deserve. Um it is a very complicated issue. We do have a unique

[2:21:19] um we have a unique county and it's

[2:21:23] precious and um I'm really glad for that vote and all the actions and and immense

[2:21:30] amount of work that led up to that vote to protect our county. So, um thank you

[2:21:36] to all involved. I enjoyed being a spectator of that. Um, I followed it,

[2:21:42] but I I I didn't have to do anything because everybody else was already doing

[2:21:48] so much. So, thank you to all involved.

[2:21:53] » Yeah, I agree. Um, I'm glad the public is showing up. I'm glad like our

[2:21:58] meetings seem to be getting more well attended and I hope that people feel

[2:22:01] that they have a voice and they can come to us with their concerns and I hope

[2:22:06] that we can address as many as possible. That's it.

[2:22:14] I'd like to thank the public for coming out and speaking. Um I think the

[2:22:23] the role of a elected person is is to be a collective voice of the body. So we

[2:22:35] have I've said it many times we have about 1,250 people we represent with

[2:22:42] this uh with this seat and um engaging with the public uh

[2:22:50] and getting feedback from them directly um is what I try to do. I bring forth

[2:22:58] some hard questions and a lot of these things are brought to me from citizens

[2:23:05] and uh and residents and constituents and uh

[2:23:13] try to hear them as Anthony said, spend an hour and a half on the phone with him

[2:23:18] um to make sure that we weren't doing something that would have inverse

[2:23:22] actions. you know, uh, the county I appreciate on Tuesday you're being to

[2:23:27] set the moratorum and, um, it's for us it's simple. We don't have it

[2:23:34] that complex. We can just say the geographical area just does not fit. Uh,

[2:23:39] for Cal, I think taking the steps that evaluate it so that we don't put

[2:23:46] ourselves in a legal situation, I think that's the appropriate steps. I like how

[2:23:51] outspoken Calary County is. You know, we uh

[2:23:57] we are very strong and and we vote strong in the primary. I I think that's

[2:24:02] one of the things I'm most proud of is how strong we vote. Um and I don't know,

[2:24:08] have a wonderful Labor Day weekend that's

[2:24:12] coming up. Happy Labor Day. >> Thank you. Um, and I'll just I'll just

[2:24:20] say that um I I want to reiterate that the carnival

[2:24:26] is is still here and that was that was a lot of fun. Um and then also um recently

[2:24:35] um the hospital had the Suare by the Bay event uh at the Rod and Real Hotel which

[2:24:42] I was able to attend and uh or decided to attend uh with my wife and that was

[2:24:50] and Marilyn I won't tell anybody about your dancing. I promise I won't tell

[2:24:54] anybody about you dancing down on the dock. I'm not going to say a word about

[2:24:57] it. good dancing. >> But uh but it was it was a lot of fun

[2:25:02] and and I haven't heard any results from Bob Carpenter or anybody else about uh

[2:25:09] how much money they raised for the hospital, but I suspect it was pretty

[2:25:12] substantial. Um and so I this just speaks to us living in a small town in a

[2:25:21] relatively small county. Um, and the fact that uh people work together to get

[2:25:27] things done and it makes me proud to be here makes me proud to be uh serving the

[2:25:33] public and and working with this council to to get things done. I'm very proud of

[2:25:37] it all and especially our third district county commissioner who I've gotten to

[2:25:42] know quite well by now and and your your wonderful husband. So, um that's all I

[2:25:48] have. Um, if anybody has a motion for adjournment, I would certainly

[2:25:52] entertain. >> Motion to adjourn.

[2:25:55] » I knew it'd be you. >> Is there a second? Is there a third and

[2:25:58] a fourth? [laughter] >> All in favor say I.

[2:26:03] » I. >> Oppose. You're You'd be nuts. Uh, thank

[2:26:07] you all for being here. Council members, thank you for your participation and

[2:26:12] your hard work.

Town Council Meeting | Thursday, August 20, 2026

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