[0:00] September 23rd, 2026, the special

[0:02] meeting of the Eden Town Council to

[0:05] order. I apologize for starting a few

[0:07] minutes [clears throat] late. We have a

[0:08] few technical difficulties up here which

[0:10] we have taken care of. Um the first

[0:13] matter is uh consideration of approval

[0:16] of a 2026 community waste reduction and

[0:19] recycling grant. And we've got David

[0:21] Meyers here and also uh Corey Gooden to

[0:25] help us explain uh more about that.

[0:28] Evening council.

[0:29] >> Sorry, I have a cough, so I do have a

[0:31] cough drop in.

[0:32] >> Um, so this grant here would be our

[0:35] third grant for recycling. Um, you know,

[0:38] our recycling program started December

[0:41] of 2023. Um, so this is for $30,000 to

[0:45] help with a skid steer to help load um

[0:49] the recycle into the trailer. Um, and

[0:52] the one we currently use is about 25

[0:54] years old. you know, dealing with all

[0:55] that trash. You can imagine the the

[0:57] shape that it's in. Um, you know, this

[0:59] will go for our 26 27 budget. Um, the

[1:03] town had to spend about $40,000 to get

[1:05] that 30, but that'll be something we

[1:07] budget uh come our our new budget in

[1:10] July.

[1:11] >> So, and it's it's much much needed, I

[1:13] can promise you. So,

[1:15] >> our um

[1:17] what was it tons per month or whatever,

[1:19] has that increased?

[1:20] >> Uh, I was looking at it right before I

[1:22] came here. You know, I think we were the

[1:24] first year around 190. We were around

[1:27] 181,000 tons this time and this year

[1:29] we're already at 50,000 tons.

[1:31] >> So, I I see it going up. U we just did

[1:34] our last recycle grant. We got

[1:36] dumpsters, we got recycle carts, you

[1:39] know, a lot of education material. So,

[1:41] we're seeing a lot more um involvement

[1:43] from the community. Um and now with the

[1:45] dumpsters, we got, you know, commercial

[1:47] properties.

[1:49] citizens know what ways do you

[1:52] >> sometimes it depends on issue with that

[1:54] >> we still get calls so

[1:58] >> okay any more questions um it sounds

[2:00] like uh we need it and I'd rather get it

[2:03] when we have some money available to

[2:04] help as opposed to waiting and it break

[2:07] down and have to act out of desperation

[2:10] and not have $30,000 to help us. So

[2:12] those are my thoughts on sir

[2:14] >> any more comments? I just need to thank

[2:16] them for continuing to go after these

[2:18] things, too.

[2:19] >> Yeah.

[2:23] » Go.

[2:24] >> Okay. Um, I'll entertain a motion to

[2:27] approve this grant as described.

[2:29] >> So, move.

[2:30] >> Second.

[2:31] >> Okay. We got a motion, a second. All in

[2:32] favor of the town approving this grant

[2:34] as described by David Myers with please

[2:36] indicate by saying I. I.

[2:38] >> Any opposed? Thank you, David.

[2:40] >> Thank you. Let's see.

[2:42] >> So, next we move to uh a series of

[2:45] public hearings, and I need to open the

[2:48] public hearing for the five agenda items

[2:51] that are on um the agenda. So, I declare

[2:54] the public uh hearing for these

[2:56] purposes. So, opened. The first matter

[3:00] that before us is a public hearing in

[3:02] case [clears throat] number RZ26-01

[3:06] which is an application for John Larry

[3:08] sellers

[3:09] requesting to reszone property located

[3:11] at 706 Northam Street North Oak Street

[3:14] from R5 residential to R3 residential.

[3:18] The affected um property is also

[3:21] identified as pin number

[3:23] 7805-20-81-5589.

[3:28] Before um we proceed on this uh hearing,

[3:32] uh Councilman Sellers, is a matter of

[3:34] procedure we need to discuss?

[3:35] >> Yes. Uh Mayor Hi, I'd move to recuse

[3:39] myself um from any hearings uh involving

[3:43] my direct family members. And the law

[3:46] reads if a direct family member is

[3:48] involved, it's mandatory that um Mr.

[3:51] Celis make make that notification to us

[3:53] and we would also need to vote on his

[3:55] request to recuse himself from this

[3:58] matter.

[3:58] >> Move, ma'am.

[3:59] >> All right, we got a motion. Do we have a

[4:00] second?

[4:00] >> Second.

[4:01] >> Okay, we got a motion to second. All in

[4:03] favor of Councilman Sersh recusing

[4:06] himself from this particular hearing,

[4:08] please signify by saying I.

[4:09] >> I.

[4:10] >> Any opposed? Okay. Thank you for letting

[4:12] us know that.

[4:15] Okay. The way uh we run these things,

[4:18] first there's a presentation of staff

[4:21] reports and uh Dwayne Wilton, will you

[4:24] come forward?

[4:38] There's a lot of paperwork to go around.

[4:40] So, the applicant u Mr. Sellers um is

[4:47] seeking to reszone uh property located

[4:49] at 706 North Oak Street to R5 from R5 to

[4:52] R3. Um in your packet you will have the

[4:55] map showing uh the specific location. Um

[4:58] and the existing zoning R5 minimum lot

[5:01] size 5,000 minimum lot width 50. Uh lot

[5:04] coverage is limited to 60%. Uh recently

[5:07] uh council has uh approved the R3 zoning

[5:11] district uh which um would require

[5:13] minimum lot size of 3,000 square feet,

[5:16] minimum lot width of 30, lot curvage of

[5:18] 60 and building height of 35. Um both

[5:22] are uh in the proposed land use

[5:25] classification is identified as medium

[5:26] to high density residential.

[5:29] uh in the uh medium to high residential

[5:33] uh it occupies about 20% of the town's

[5:35] planning jurisdiction uh and if you

[5:37] remember uh R3 was uh for you know to

[5:42] help with affordable housing I think is

[5:43] the old calls but also for infield

[5:45] development uh and to help with uh um

[5:48] the the infill on lots that are already

[5:50] non-conforming and to bring these lots

[5:52] into a more conforming status and

[5:54] putting restrictions kind of on how it

[5:55] can be developed. So uh public utilities

[5:59] um properties in the corporate limits um

[6:02] it is uh located within the town

[6:04] protective service provided by the

[6:06] police department. Uh it's subject

[6:08] properties located on Oak and East Hick

[6:11] Street. Uh physical characteristics at

[6:12] this point is vacant land. Um the

[6:16] aftermission parcels of the applicant

[6:18] seeks reszoning uh from R5 to R3.

[6:21] [clears throat] Resoning request may be

[6:22] considered appropriate given the

[6:23] compatibility of the surrounding

[6:25] residential properties and the intended

[6:27] purpose of the parcel as single family

[6:29] uh detached dwellings. Um the potential

[6:32] reasonzoning of this parcel R3

[6:34] residential is consistent with future

[6:35] land use uh map designation for medium

[6:39] to high density residential areas.

[6:42] So, uh, please be aware that the

[6:45] reszoning of this project, uh, this

[6:47] property will will permit all uses

[6:49] permanent R3, uh, residential as list in

[6:52] the town of Edon's, uh, unified

[6:55] development ordinance.

[6:57] Grant, if granted, the reasoning

[6:58] requests, property owners will continue

[7:00] to have to comply with all the

[7:01] regulations included within the town of

[7:03] Edon's unified development ordinance.

[7:06] Uh, you see, uh, there was an existing

[7:08] structure that has been demolished, but,

[7:09] uh, you see your maps there. Uh the

[7:11] recommendation uh staff has determined

[7:13] the applicant uh application for Mr.

[7:15] Sellers for a zoning map amendment uh is

[7:17] complete and that is compatible with the

[7:19] 2018 land use plan and that the

[7:21] reszoning would result no inconsistency

[7:23] with the existing and future land

[7:25] classifications for the subject property

[7:27] and it meets uh the requirements of the

[7:30] town of E10's uh unified development

[7:32] ordinance. uh the plan board met on

[7:36] March 2nd and as we recommended approval

[7:38] of this reasoning request

[7:41] uh so town council plan consistency

[7:44] statement um would be required at this

[7:46] point but uh that's it for the

[7:53] » plane board recommending 100%.

[7:56] >> Yes sir. Yeah, I every number.

[7:59] >> And Dwayne, we uh re recently, was that

[8:02] within the last six months or so, uh

[8:05] changed our zoning ordinance to include

[8:07] a R3 designation? Yes. Is that correct?

[8:10] Mhm. [clears throat]

[8:11] >> And I recall some of the thought

[8:13] processes behind that was smaller lot

[8:18] size reduces the cost of the land and

[8:20] also uh reduces the size of a house you

[8:22] could put on that land with the hope

[8:24] that you would have more affordable

[8:26] housing than a big house on a big lot.

[8:28] Is that correct?

[8:28] >> That's correct. Yeah. And with the

[8:29] reasoning, I mean, they're still going

[8:30] to have to meet uh the setback

[8:32] requirements as as approved by council

[8:34] and every other restriction that's

[8:36] approved by council. this just will

[8:37] allow for them to subdivide this and be

[8:39] able to pour or be able to put uh some

[8:42] smaller homes there. Uh which I've heard

[8:45] from the community is a great necessity

[8:47] for the school system and the new school

[8:50] is there and uh the board of education

[8:52] that's right there. So, this could be an

[8:53] asset to them as well.

[8:55] >> And the only difference between R5 and

[8:57] R3 is the minimum lot size. Everything

[8:59] else is pretty much the same.

[9:00] >> Yeah, minimum lot size. I think some

[9:02] setbacks uh are a little uh lenient on

[9:04] R3. Um but it still has to meet the 6%

[9:07] lot coverage uh 35 uh feet max height.

[9:11] Uh but I think other than that um most

[9:14] of the regulations are uh the same as R5

[9:18] and defined as medium to high

[9:20] residential

[9:24] and I mean it's sort of my understanding

[9:26] that these these type of developments

[9:28] are encouraged by

[9:30] not necessarily our main street but the

[9:33] sort of main street approach brings

[9:35] [clears throat] more people into the

[9:36] middle of town. It helps create, you

[9:38] know, a vital thriving center core of

[9:41] the of the town.

[9:42] >> More walkable uh community is kind of

[9:45] the

[9:46] >> kind of Yeah. Less disperse services. I

[9:49] mean, it's all right there. Just Yeah,

[9:52] we'll I guess everything's already

[9:54] there.

[9:55] >> School.

[9:56] >> It's been very very close to school.

[9:58] >> It's been a great parking lot for

[10:00] football games, though.

[10:04] And Dwayne, this fits in with our um

[10:07] future land use map and plans and goals.

[10:09] >> Yeah. Well, with the R3, it's it's

[10:11] basically marrying the R5, which is our

[10:13] smallest lot. Uh so it's all considered

[10:16] medium to high residential. Uh when we

[10:18] update our land use plan, we'll include

[10:20] the R3 zoning district, but as of right

[10:22] now, it's it's listed under the the

[10:24] medium to high resial density.

[10:26] And this house is on um like Mosley

[10:29] Street, MLK. They all would be in this type of

[10:33] >> 30 to 33

[10:36] feet wide. Basically, this

[10:39] >> when you asked that question, you refer

[10:40] to existing lots.

[10:41] >> Existing lots that are already in town.

[10:43] >> You the town founders already had

[10:46] planned this. It's just

[10:48] >> we see several

[10:49] >> gotten away for a while. Yeah, we see

[10:51] several throughout the the town

[10:53] municipal limits of of being about 33

[10:55] feet wide and we just have to work with

[10:57] them at this point on attempting to meet

[10:59] the setbacks but not punishing them for

[11:02] uh not meeting them. So pretty good. So

[11:04] this helps alleviate that, put stricter

[11:06] or put a standardized um kind of

[11:10] development ordinance in place for those

[11:12] particular properties.

[11:14] Okay, any more questions of uh staff?

[11:17] [clears throat]

[11:18] Okay, thank you. Thanks.

[11:21] Next, we've got presentation from the

[11:24] applicant or applicants representative.

[11:27] Anything you want to add?

[11:30] >> Well, I'm going to bring Chris back up

[11:31] here. [laughter]

[11:33] He's the builder. He's going to buy the

[11:35] lots for me. Originally, we were going

[11:37] to do town houses, but this way,

[11:40] everybody wants a single family house.

[11:42] Not everybody wants a townhouse. So,

[11:44] maybe one day we'll do some town houses

[11:46] in in town. But Chris can explain to you

[11:49] what he wants to do and I think it's

[11:51] wonderful width on those lots.

[11:56] » So in this particular parcel

[12:00] currently zoned R5

[12:02] it it's 14,800

[12:06] and some square foot which is not three

[12:10] lots and not three homes. Um by going to

[12:14] R3

[12:15] it becomes four lots four locations for

[12:18] homes and our width is

[12:22] greater than

[12:24] >> it's 40

[12:24] >> 40.

[12:26] >> So we're going to make maximum use of

[12:28] this property. Um as Dwayne mentioned

[12:32] there's minor differences in the

[12:34] setbacks. Maybe instead of 12 it's 10.

[12:38] But as was also mentioned, um we have a

[12:41] lot of lots in this town that are

[12:44] nonconforming that are going to fit in

[12:46] this category and that kind of makes

[12:48] them legit again. Um somewhere along the

[12:52] way, Cape Colony for example, where

[12:55] we're also trying to build some houses

[12:57] that are in considered affordable um

[13:00] that got painted R15

[13:03] and we're building on 50 by 100 lots and

[13:06] I have to you know, I have to use those

[13:09] setbacks, which makes it even harder to

[13:12] get a house on those lots. So, I think

[13:14] the more we can set these up the right

[13:17] way, the better off we're going to be

[13:18] moving forward where, you know, the the

[13:21] setbacks meet what you actually have for

[13:23] a piece of property.

[13:25] >> What uh size houses do you anticipate um

[13:29] would be placed on these lines?

[13:30] >> Uh anywhere from a two bed, we do a

[13:33] two-bedroom, two bath. It's about 850 square ft. Um up to maybe 11,200

[13:42] square ft². Again, we're, you know,

[13:44] we're we're asking for smaller lots.

[13:45] We're working on smaller lots. So, we

[13:47] may have to go up, you know, a twotory

[13:50] version, which we've got several models

[13:52] of that.

[13:53] >> What's the cost per square foot? Yeah,

[13:57] >> we have to build the whole house,

[13:58] including the driveway and the porches

[14:00] and the I always tell customers, I know

[14:02] you're going to go home and divide the

[14:03] heated square footage by my price and

[14:06] say, "Oh my gosh, it's this much."

[14:08] >> Um, but you know, the reality is they're

[14:11] going to be between two and probably on

[14:14] these lots 200 to 225 a square foot sale

[14:18] price, which includes the land.

[14:21] Somewhere in that range. Somewhere in

[14:23] that range. But, you know, we're not

[14:25] going to cut on any of the quality.

[14:28] We're going to have the same house.

[14:30] The price is driven. That's consistent.

[14:33] Price is driven by the cost of the land

[14:36] and the size [clears throat] of the

[14:36] home.

[14:39] >> The house that you built, I think you

[14:40] built it by the street department by

[14:43] Dave's office.

[14:44] >> Yes.

[14:45] >> That's going to be about the size of the

[14:46] house.

[14:47] >> Yeah. That that's an example where, you

[14:49] know, we're not spending too much money

[14:51] until we get this through, but we're

[14:53] looking at different elevations for that

[14:55] size house. So, that size house was

[14:56] drawn as a two-bedroom, one bath. We

[14:59] make it 5 1/2, 6t deeper, and make it a

[15:03] two-bedroom, two bath. So, you know,

[15:07] potentially someone could buy it, have a

[15:09] roommate, another teacher, you know,

[15:13] >> would everybody have a young

[15:14] >> a driveway?

[15:15] >> Yes. Yes, we're mandated on a

[15:18] twobedroom, one and a half.

[15:21] >> I think it's two, three parking spaces,

[15:24] I believe.

[15:26] >> Oh, two. Yeah, it would be two parking

[15:28] spaces.

[15:28] >> Yeah, I mean, we're going to do two. I

[15:30] think I thought I thought it was 1.5 on

[15:32] a twobedroom and two when you get to a

[15:34] threebedroom, but

[15:35] >> Yeah, 1.75 something like

[15:37] Yeah, we don't we don't do those 75

[15:40] parking places. [laughter]

[15:43] There's a few 75 cars running around

[15:45] here, but we're going to give you a

[15:46] whole parking.

[15:50] » Okay, questions [clears throat] of the

[15:53] applicant and applicants representative.

[15:56] >> Okay. Thank you, Chris.

[15:57] >> Thanks.

[16:03] » As our procedures go on this uh type of

[16:06] hearing, we uh have a public comment

[16:08] period uh designated as a public

[16:10] hearing. within this public hearing. And

[16:12] at this time, the next uh agenda item is

[16:15] public comment. Uh if you have public

[16:17] comment, I'd ask that you come forward

[16:19] and identify yourself and limit your

[16:21] comments to three minutes. So, I will

[16:22] hereby open the public comment uh period

[16:25] of this agenda item. Do we have anybody

[16:28] present that wishes to speak?

[16:31] There appearing to be none. I would

[16:33] close the public comment um section of

[16:35] this agenda item. And at this time we

[16:38] move forward to further comments,

[16:40] questions, and deliberations from town

[16:43] council. Um, council Dixon, did you have

[16:46] anything else to add?

[16:47] >> I think this is

[16:48] >> I think so. Great.

[16:50] >> Yeah.

[16:51] >> And affordable housing, too.

[16:54] >> Well, when we made the change to our

[16:56] zoning map to include a R3, this is the

[16:59] type thing that we had in mind. Um, and

[17:02] it'll address something that almost

[17:04] every time we have some sort of public

[17:06] event related to how things we can do

[17:08] different here at Eaton, people talk

[17:10] about afford affordable housing, smaller

[17:12] housing that can be affordable for

[17:14] people. So, I think it meets uh our long

[17:16] range plans in that regard. Um, any

[17:19] other comments?

[17:21] All right. Well, council and uh general

[17:23] public, there is an established

[17:25] procedure that we must follow in these

[17:27] types of matters. And we'll have to go

[17:29] through this four more times. But as you

[17:31] recall, council, there are five um

[17:34] questions that we need to answer. One of

[17:36] those is um the ultimate question of

[17:38] whether we've approved this. But before

[17:40] we get to that, there are four

[17:42] preliminary questions that the council

[17:44] must answer in the positive before we

[17:46] can move to the next question. And so

[17:48] the first question that we always have

[17:50] in this type of thing is uh whether or

[17:52] not the uh proposed uh change will

[17:55] endanger the public health or safety.

[17:58] And I would entertain a motion um that

[18:01] this project would not endanger the

[18:03] public health or safety.

[18:05] >> So move.

[18:06] >> Okay. Do you have a second?

[18:07] >> Second.

[18:07] >> Okay. Any further comment on that sub

[18:09] question? All those in favor of a

[18:12] finding that this particular change will

[18:14] not endanger the public health or

[18:16] safety, please signify by saying I.

[18:19] >> I.

[18:19] >> Any opposed?

[18:22] >> Okay. The next subsection sub question

[18:24] that we have to answer is uh whether or

[18:26] not um the proposed change in use would

[18:30] injure would not injure the value of

[18:32] adjoining or abing property. Does

[18:34] anybody have a motion on that?

[18:35] >> So moved.

[18:36] >> Okay. We got a motion by Councilman

[18:39] Dixon and a second by Councilman Bond.

[18:41] Um all in favor of a finding that the

[18:44] proposed change and use will not injure

[18:47] the value of adjoining or abunding

[18:48] properties, please signify by saying I.

[18:51] >> I. Any opposed?

[18:53] The next sub question is whether the uh

[18:56] particular change will be in harmony

[18:59] with the area in which it is located. Uh

[19:01] do I have a motion and a second for that

[19:03] particular finding?

[19:04] >> So

[19:05] >> second. Okay, we've got a motion and a

[19:07] second. All those in favor of the

[19:09] finding that this change will be in

[19:10] harmony with the area in which it is

[19:12] located, please signify by saying I.

[19:14] >> I.

[19:16] >> And next, we um need to make a finding

[19:19] that the um use and change will be in

[19:22] conformity with the land use plan,

[19:24] thoroughare plan, or other plan

[19:25] officially adopted by town council. I'll

[19:28] entertain a motion and a second on that

[19:30] sub question.

[19:30] >> Motion.

[19:32] >> Second. Okay, we've got a motion and a

[19:33] second. All in favor of a finding that

[19:36] this change will be in conformity with

[19:38] the land use plan, thoroughfare plan, or

[19:40] other plan officially adopted by the

[19:42] town council, please signify by saying

[19:44] I. I.

[19:45] >> Any opposed?

[19:47] >> Okay. Since council voted in the

[19:49] affirmative on all those findings, it

[19:51] leads us to the uh ultimate question.

[19:54] And I would uh entertain a motion that

[19:57] the town council approve the reszoning

[20:00] of the subject property from R5

[20:02] residential to R3 residential.

[20:05] >> I got a motion.

[20:06] >> Second.

[20:07] >> Got a motion and second. All in favor of

[20:09] the resoning of the subject property

[20:11] from R5 [cough] residential to R3

[20:13] [clears throat] residential. Please

[20:14] signify by saying I. I.

[20:17] >> Any opposed?

[20:19] Okay. So that particular change uh from

[20:22] R5 to R3 is hereby passed by town

[20:25] council. The next um public hearing is

[20:29] on the same piece of property from the

[20:31] same um applicant and this is to um

[20:37] create four lots on um the property

[20:40] located at 706 North Oak Street uh by

[20:43] subdividing into those aforementioned

[20:46] four lots. And um Councilman Sellers, do

[20:48] you have the same concern here that you

[20:50] had in the first?

[20:51] >> I do. I'd again ask to be recused.

[20:53] >> Okay. I need a motion and a second in

[20:56] order to recuse Councilman Sellers from

[20:58] participating voting in this matter.

[21:00] >> Second.

[21:01] >> Okay. All in favor of Councilman

[21:03] Sellers's recusal from hearing this

[21:05] matter, please signify by saying I.

[21:07] >> I. Any opposed? Okay. We move forward to

[21:11] the staff reports. Um Mr.

[21:15] >> [clears throat]

[21:20] » When you pack it, you see the the

[21:22] preliminary plan is there. Uh so any lot

[21:25] over three in this uh this zone requires

[21:28] major special use permit for the

[21:30] subdivision. Uh so basically the same as

[21:33] before uh with the major species permit,

[21:36] I pulled the goals and objectives from

[21:37] our land use plan. Uh and those are

[21:39] listed in the staff report. uh develop

[21:41] and implement uh strategies to promote

[21:43] three generation population growth. Uh

[21:45] ensure the town's development ordinance

[21:46] conducive with emerging uh economic

[21:48] trends such as telecommuting and

[21:51] industry entrepreneurship.

[21:53] Establish local uh development policies,

[21:55] programs, resources to promote increased

[21:57] home ownership in town. Uh

[22:03] the town will encourage location,

[22:04] business, residential development and

[22:06] service providers that serve retirees

[22:07] while creating jobs for young residents.

[22:09] [clears throat]

[22:09] Town is supportive of cottage industry

[22:11] entrepreneurship. The town encourages

[22:12] development of housing types that

[22:14] accommodate retirees, young

[22:15] professionals, and millennials.

[22:17] Uh you see uh an exter

[22:23] same location 76 North Oak Street. Um

[22:27] the matri process requires applicants to

[22:29] specify the exact pros use uh of the

[22:31] land and allows the town council place

[22:33] restrictions on the actual development.

[22:35] You see an excerpt from the UDO showing

[22:37] major subdivisions and the requirements

[22:39] of a major space use permit plan of

[22:41] board met for this one again on March

[22:43] 2nd unanimously recommended approval

[22:47] um to the town council with staff

[22:49] recommended conditions and uh we'll once

[22:51] again go through those four um five

[22:55] requirements that has address these

[22:56] conditions of attached application

[23:00] um and uh I have uh two of the approved

[23:03] staff recommended and approved planning

[23:05] board recommended conditions. All

[23:07] details [clears throat] and improvements

[23:09] including but not limited besides

[23:10] signage, infrastructure, sidewalks,

[23:12] landscaping, street lighting shall be

[23:14] installed slash constructed according to

[23:15] UDO requirements. All necessary traffic

[23:18] improvements, utility installations and

[23:20] connections, electric, water and sewer

[23:21] built with town standard and drainage,

[23:23] storm water detention improvements shall

[23:25] be installed by and all associated and

[23:28] required fees more by the developer. Um

[23:31] staff does find the proposed use to be

[23:33] in conformity with the Gington Shaw

[23:34] [clears throat] Lenny's plan and

[23:35] officers the following decision

[23:36] statement for the council's

[23:37] consideration.

[23:38] Um so you have uh the

[23:42] consent statement [clears throat] right

[23:43] there and list of the goals that were

[23:45] read through before. So basically uh

[23:47] taking one parcel and converting it into

[23:50] uh uh four uh subdivided lots um and

[23:54] matching the zoning requirements of R3.

[23:59] >> Okay. Dwayne. Um,

[24:01] so u the planning board recommended

[24:04] approval unanimously and you as part of

[24:07] the staff are coming back with the same

[24:09] recommendation that we approved it.

[24:10] >> Yes sir.

[24:11] >> And the policy reasons for approving

[24:13] this are those basically the same as the

[24:15] reasons why you recommended that we um

[24:18] change the zoning from R5 residential to

[24:20] R3 residential.

[24:21] >> Yes sir. infield development. Um

[24:23] creating uh a lot consistent with the R3

[24:27] zoning district that was approved by

[24:28] council. Um checking off a bunch of the

[24:31] uh goals and policies that the land use

[24:34] plan uh has identified including you

[24:36] know [clears throat] supportive of u

[24:38] development of housing types that

[24:40] accommodate retirees, young

[24:41] professionals and millennials. uh and

[24:43] knowing that their uh intentions are to

[24:45] uh build single family detached

[24:47] dwellings. Uh and the opportunity to

[24:49] meet these goals and policies is the

[24:51] reason why I came, you know, planning

[24:53] board and and myself came on and u

[24:56] recommendation of approval for the um

[24:59] major special use permit for the

[25:00] subdivision. [clears throat] And if we

[25:03] approve it, um that doesn't necessarily

[25:05] mean that they just get that bill out

[25:06] there and do whatever they want to do.

[25:08] They're still going to have to meet all

[25:09] the requirements of the town that you

[25:10] just set forward.

[25:11] >> Yes, sir. the the conditions uh the

[25:13] recommended conditions and any condition

[25:15] that is imposed by town council they

[25:16] would have to follow as well as UDO

[25:18] requirements building code requirements

[25:21] uh if approved tonight the next steps uh

[25:23] when they decide to build would be the

[25:24] port building permit uh I would probably

[25:26] meet with them beforehand uh and then a

[25:28] zoning permit to make sure they're

[25:30] meeting setbacks of the R3 zoning

[25:31] district so there's still checks and

[25:33] balances in place to make sure that all

[25:35] the requirements are being met

[25:38] >> are there any other questions of you

[25:40] from council.

[25:42] >> Okay. Thanks.

[25:46] >> And Chris, if you don't mind, just come

[25:47] forward just so we can establish

[25:50] something for the record. Um, similar to

[25:52] what I asked uh Dwayne, um, basically

[25:55] the reasons you think this is a good

[25:57] idea. Are those the same reasons they

[25:59] thought it was a good idea

[26:00] >> to change the designation from R5 to R3?

[26:03] >> Absolutely. And as it relates to this

[26:06] specific request to allow subdivision in

[26:08] the full residential lots, anything that

[26:10] you want to add to your earlier

[26:11] statements?

[26:13] >> I'm open for questions if anybody has

[26:16] any, but I think um you know, I think

[26:19] most of it has been said and these are

[26:22] not the last four that I want to build

[26:24] for the town or the community. So

[26:26] obviously I'm I'm going to work through

[26:28] everything we need to get through to get

[26:29] these right. What would be your goal

[26:31] time

[26:33] once everything's approved?

[26:35] >> Honestly, I've got so much going on

[26:37] right now. I tell people all the time, I

[26:40] could start you sooner than most people,

[26:42] but it's taken me longer. So, most

[26:44] houses are taking me six, seven months.

[26:48] Now, these are not really large, but

[26:49] I've got a great team that I use on

[26:52] every single house, and there's a whole

[26:55] lot of them going on right now,

[26:57] mostly in Cholan and Ed. Few inquiries

[27:01] >> in this particular parcel. Will you be

[27:03] doing one house at a time?

[27:04] >> Uh, probably at least two at a time. Two

[27:06] at a time,

[27:07] >> right? Two at a time. Um, initially that

[27:09] would leave a great, you know,

[27:11] tremendous layown area. It will get more

[27:13] challenging as we get down to the last

[27:14] lot. But, um, we've got, if you ride by

[27:18] now, we've got one staked out at the

[27:20] other end that we were going to do. Um,

[27:22] and I'm probably going to do two of

[27:23] those at the same time. We're doing two

[27:25] simultaneous in Cape Colony. We've done

[27:27] that before. That makes it easier for

[27:30] everybody. And if something's not quite

[27:32] ready, they can go next door.

[27:34] >> They all look a little different,

[27:36] though.

[27:36] >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.

[27:37] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're working on

[27:39] elevations now.

[27:40] >> Okay. Um, we want it to look we want it

[27:43] to look like it belongs here but not

[27:45] look like, you know, four in a row that

[27:47] look the same.

[27:48] >> Yeah.

[27:48] >> How many of your houses that you've done

[27:50] have you sold in Cape Colony?

[27:54] >> Seven. Maybe.

[27:57] >> All of them. I can tell you.

[27:58] >> Seven. And we're building two more right

[28:01] now.

[28:01] >> Yeah. Two under construction. We have 10

[28:04] or 12 more lots in there. We're working

[28:07] with that HOA. They're trying to

[28:10] strengthen their HOA again. So, we're

[28:13] helping them do that and helping them.

[28:15] >> And you move those fairly quickly,

[28:17] haven't you? I mean, it's not been any

[28:18] problem at all.

[28:19] >> No, we've seen some of them we come in

[28:22] with the USDA customer in place and and

[28:24] the ones that we feel all we got people

[28:28] interested in one right now that's only

[28:30] a foundation. I I I can't finish it fast

[28:33] enough for some people, you know.

[28:36] >> Honestly, it's almost impossible to

[28:37] build a a spec house in this area

[28:41] because somebody's gonna buy it before

[28:43] we go. It's going to be a contract

[28:45] house, you know, and a lot of times they

[28:48] want to do that soon enough to make

[28:51] selections, which we let them make some

[28:53] selections. Siding color, paint color,

[28:56] maybe flooring, you know, certain things

[28:58] that they can pick. They get there fast

[29:00] enough.

[29:02] >> Okay. Anything else?

[29:05] >> Okay. Thank you, Chris. Thank you.

[29:08] >> Next, we move to the public hearing

[29:10] portion of this [laughter] public

[29:12] hearing. Uh is there any public comment?

[29:15] Again, uh limit your comments to three

[29:18] minutes. And if you'll come forward and

[29:20] let us know your name, identify

[29:21] yourself, we'll be glad to hear from

[29:23] you. Any comments on this? There

[29:26] appearing to be none. We next move to uh

[29:28] the section of the agenda where town

[29:30] council can uh ask further questions,

[29:33] seek uh answers, and also deliberate.

[29:35] Are there any further further comments

[29:36] or questions as it relates to this uh

[29:39] application?

[29:42] » Okay, as we did before, we have to go

[29:44] through the five questions. At this

[29:46] time, I would entertain a motion that

[29:49] the subdivision as proposed would not

[29:51] endanger the public health or safety.

[29:54] >> So, move second.

[29:55] >> We got a motion and second. Um all in

[29:57] favor of finding that the um subdivision

[30:00] would not endanger the public health or

[30:02] safety, please signify by saying I. I.

[30:05] >> Any opposed?

[30:07] >> Next question for consideration is um

[30:10] that the subdivision will not injure the

[30:13] value of a joining or abing property. Do

[30:15] I have a motion and second?

[30:16] >> Motion, sir.

[30:18] >> Okay, we've got a motion and second. All

[30:20] in favor of finding that the subdivision

[30:22] will not injure the value of adjoining

[30:24] or voting properties, please signify by

[30:26] saying I.

[30:27] >> I.

[30:28] >> Any opposed?

[30:29] >> The next question that we have to

[30:31] consider is um whether the subdivision

[30:34] will be in harmony with the area in

[30:36] which it is located.

[30:39] >> Motion second.

[30:41] >> All in favor of a finding that the

[30:43] subdivision will be in harmony with the

[30:44] area which is located, please signify by

[30:46] saying I. I. Any opposed?

[30:50] Next up question is consideration of

[30:53] whether the sub condition will be in

[30:55] conformity with the land use plan, third

[30:57] rate plan or other plan officially

[30:59] adopted by town council. I'll entertain

[31:01] a motion and a second regard to that

[31:03] question.

[31:04] >> So second.

[31:06] >> Okay, we've got a motion and second. All

[31:07] in favor of the finding that the

[31:09] subdivision will be in conformity with

[31:11] the land use plan, the thoroughfare plan

[31:14] or any other plan officially adopted by

[31:16] the town council, please signify by

[31:18] saying I. I.

[31:20] >> Any opposed?

[31:22] >> Okay. And then we move to the ultimate

[31:24] question. Uh this time based on the

[31:27] positive answer to the four previous

[31:28] questions, I would entertain a motion uh

[31:31] to approve this major um special use

[31:35] application.

[31:37] Second.

[31:37] >> Okay. All in favor of approval of the uh

[31:41] major special use um permit application

[31:44] as presented, please signify by saying

[31:46] I.

[31:47] >> Any opposed?

[31:50] That is approved. Next we move to agenda

[31:55] item

[32:00] subsection D and this is a consideration

[32:03] of case number RZ 26-3

[32:06] an application from Interbanks Asset

[32:09] Group LLC which involves a request to

[32:12] reszone the property located at 307 East

[32:15] Queen Street from R5 residential to R3

[32:19] residential. The subject property is

[32:21] further identified as having pin number

[32:24] 7804-08-88-921.

[32:28] At this time, we would ask Dwayne Wilton

[32:31] to come forward with the staff report.

[32:39] » All right. Um

[32:42] this is uh

[32:44] an application uh for a um basically

[32:47] reszoning from R5 to R3 zoning district

[32:50] 3070s Queen Street.48 acres uh

[32:56] basically the same as before. Um within

[33:00] town um classified as medium to high

[33:02] density residential.

[33:04] um vacant. This this particular lot was

[33:07] a vacant land with a former class C

[33:09] trailer park uh on it. Um

[33:14] the request resone after mentioned

[33:15] parcels um from R5 which is 5,000 ft to

[33:18] R3 allowing 3,000 ft minimum. Uh this

[33:22] resist may be considered appropriate

[33:23] given the compatibility surrounding

[33:24] residential properties in the tenant

[33:26] purpose of the parcel. proposed

[33:28] reszoning classification R3 residential

[33:30] does not alter the predominant existing

[33:32] land use pattern in the surrounding

[33:34] area. Uh the potential reszoning of this

[33:36] parcel R3 residential is consistent with

[33:38] future land use plan designation of this

[33:40] enabling properties as medium high

[33:42] density. Um proposed reserve results in

[33:45] no change either existing or future land

[33:46] use classification properties.

[33:50] Uh you see a uh current zoning map uh

[33:53] showing

[33:54] uh the R5 uh zoning district

[33:58] uh as well as the location of that and

[34:02] the location on the

[34:05] [clears throat] land use map. Uh staff

[34:07] has determined that application from uh

[34:10] Jes from for a zoning map amendment

[34:13] reszoning is complete that is uh

[34:15] compatible with the 2018 showing land

[34:18] use plan and that the reasoning will

[34:20] result in no inconsistency with the

[34:21] existing future land use classification

[34:23] for the subject property. Uh plan board

[34:26] metal March 2nd unanimously recommended

[34:28] approval of this resoning request. Uh,

[34:31] one thing I do want to state is um that

[34:33] this is this is just a reszoning uh and

[34:36] not uh a major special use permit or

[34:39] anything like that. This is just the

[34:41] they're going to uh present what their

[34:43] intentions are with the property. But uh

[34:45] this isn't if if it requires them to

[34:48] come back for a specialist permit, they

[34:49] will. Uh I think after this I would work

[34:52] with them on any feedback that is given

[34:54] to kind of u wrangle it in. But, uh, as

[34:56] what they've given me, it meets the R5

[34:58] zoning district, um, requirements. Uh,

[35:01] so I just wanted to put that up. But,

[35:04] um, so, and then the town council, uh,

[35:06] planning consistency standard.

[35:08] >> Well, that's it.

[35:11] >> Okay. Any questions? Uh, Dwayne, do does anybody remember how

[35:17] many mobile homes were on this lot?

[35:20] >> If I remember correctly, I think there's

[35:22] six uh, structure points. Am I might be

[35:26] located.

[35:28] There are six structure points up there,

[35:30] which leads me to believe there was at

[35:31] least six at any given time uh of class

[35:34] C trailers on that location. Uh when I

[35:37] got here, I think there was two or three

[35:39] uh left, but uh historically there's

[35:41] four structure points leading me to

[35:43] believe there was at least six

[35:44] structures on the property.

[35:46] Is this near the oldest house

[35:54] » mayor point out that it's it's odd that

[35:57] we have to vote on this for six new

[36:00] property new houses to go there when

[36:02] before there was six homes there.

[36:05] >> Yeah,

[36:07] >> that's why I asked a question. Yeah,

[36:10] >> I think previously the property was

[36:13] non-conforming use for this location.

[36:16] >> Yeah, I think uh given the it happened

[36:18] some point in and with zoning uh that it probably became non-conforming with

[36:23] it. Uh but historically, you know, I

[36:26] don't know how far this goes back,

[36:27] probably the 70s or 80s, there's at

[36:29] least been six structure points and I

[36:31] can get the history probably from land

[36:33] records and bring next time if we come,

[36:35] but uh come back for a special use

[36:36] permit.

[36:38] I think historically there's was

[36:40] operating as non-conforming but had six

[36:42] units on.

[36:44] >> Okay. Any other questions or comments

[36:47] while he's up there?

[36:50] >> Okay. Thank you again.

[36:55] Next we've got uh presentation from the

[36:57] applicant or the representatives.

[37:13] Good evening,

[37:16] Mr. Mayor and town council. Um, like

[37:18] Dwayne mentioned, we're working on the

[37:20] R3s tonight. Um, I come as a private

[37:22] resident. Um, we'd like to test the uh

[37:25] cottage fort concept in that um on that

[37:28] lot similar to the uh trailer parks. And

[37:30] we've thrown together a kind of a 3D

[37:32] rendered model of what that could

[37:34] potentially look like uh with a a

[37:36] walkable

[37:38] uh smaller square foot concept um that

[37:42] provides accessible housing units that

[37:44] are walkable downtown um and right next

[37:46] to and honor that kind of street near

[37:48] the the mill village. Um, so this is just a mockup of a model. The

[37:54] architectural designs have not been

[37:56] finalized or anything of that sort, but

[37:58] the idea being that this is Queen Street

[38:00] here. And so you have the cottage court

[38:02] concept in the R3 zoning is that all the

[38:04] houses face a common common courtyard.

[38:07] Uh, 300 square ft per unit. Uh, and then

[38:10] the clean street facing houses, which

[38:12] actually I think I turned it around on

[38:14] you, would be this side, would have kind

[38:16] of a wraparound porch to look as if

[38:18] they're facing the street as well as the

[38:20] common space between the units. [cough]

[38:24] >> Are they [clears throat] about 1,000 ft?

[38:26] >> That's the That's what we're going off

[38:27] of. A two bed, one bath, 900 to,000 ft.

[38:30] >> A little crowded in that area.

[38:32] [clears throat]

[38:33] >> It is a tight concept. That's what the

[38:35] that lot can support. You couldn't do

[38:37] any more unless you go a lot smaller on

[38:39] the square footage. You could do a tiny

[38:40] home concept. But the R3 zoning allows

[38:42] from four to 12 units on a single lot

[38:45] >> without subdividing.

[38:46] >> You seen a really interesting older one

[38:48] in

[38:50] a

[38:50] >> Yeah, it's really

[38:53] >> it's kind of it's mocked up on the same

[38:55] and trying to mimic the the um the mill

[38:58] village, you know what I mean? Same kind

[39:00] of concept, same kind of houses. So, it

[39:02] kind of blends in with it. Not trying to

[39:04] stand it out. Not trying to make a track

[39:06] housing in there. Not trying to put up a

[39:09] townhouse. I think it would stand out a

[39:11] little too much in that area, but I

[39:14] think that was also approved in that

[39:16] area. But, you know, this would just

[39:18] kind of just blend with everything on

[39:20] the street and up the street and just

[39:22] trying to mimic

[39:24] what the town already is.

[39:26] >> So, that's Queen going.

[39:28] >> Yeah. Okay. So, you sleep down.

[39:30] >> Yeah. I mean, these are models just to

[39:31] put it on there so people grasp. But

[39:33] like like he said, wrapping the front

[39:35] porches around the front to, you know,

[39:37] give it more of a a street view and then

[39:41] mimicking the houses down, but not

[39:42] trying to change the houses too much.

[39:44] Not trying to make one small, one

[39:45] little. They're all going to pretty much

[39:48] coincide with each other like this to

[39:50] make them all blend

[39:52] just like

[39:55] each character, color, elevation. Okay.

[39:58] And to get to the back ones

[40:00] >> be two two uh two roads on either side

[40:04] of the units. And to your earlier

[40:06] >> roads be behind like in the backyard so

[40:08] to speak.

[40:09] >> Right now the site the site does not

[40:12] support that without the setback

[40:15] requirements and of that sort. But to

[40:16] your earlier question council Miller

[40:20] you could do less units but then the

[40:22] economics of the development of the site

[40:24] require larger units at a higher price

[40:25] point. You could do

[40:27] So the six units at a smaller footprint

[40:30] makes the economic makes it paper a

[40:32] little better. [clears throat] Um if you

[40:34] bring it in and split it into two two

[40:36] lots or two units on there, you got to

[40:37] do larger houses at a higher price

[40:40] point.

[40:42] >> So the

[40:49] each house has a driveway.

[40:52] It does next to it. And there is room

[40:54] enough to double the driveway to double

[40:56] the car parking. Again, this is just a

[40:58] concept that we put together to get

[41:01] through the approval. And then obviously

[41:04] once through this approval, we then go

[41:06] to the building approvals, which then

[41:08] we'll change up what we have to to make

[41:10] the changes, you know, to meet code.

[41:14] One nice thing about having the

[41:15] driveways on the side is that it adds to

[41:17] the set, you know,

[41:19] >> I think this is just so awesome. Yeah,

[41:22] this we we understand there hasn't been

[41:23] a cottage sport in Eston. This is more

[41:25] to visualize it.

[41:26] >> Yeah.

[41:28] >> As planned, like if I'm looking at your

[41:29] mock up here and models in front of me,

[41:32] if if I own that far left, I would drive

[41:36] on this side.

[41:39] >> His left.

[41:41] >> Yeah.

[41:45] [laughter]

[41:49] » Okay. Are there any other questions?

[41:56] » All right. Thank you.

[41:56] >> Thank you.

[41:58] >> Make it look good.

[42:01] » No other way.

[42:05] » Okay. Next uh we come uh to the uh

[42:09] public comment public hearing um phase

[42:11] of this particular public hearing. Um,

[42:14] if you have comments, please step

[42:16] forward, identify yourself, and limit

[42:18] your comments to three minutes.

[42:22] » Good evening, Mr. Mayor. council.

[42:24] [clears throat]

[42:25] My um biggest concern comment and I I

[42:30] guess it would also apply to the

[42:32] structures to be built on North Oak is

[42:37] last year because of power failure.

[42:41] According to the lineman who worked on

[42:43] the lines across from my house, my brand

[42:46] new HVAC unit was blown out because what

[42:49] the linemen had told me is one fuse, one

[42:53] transformer blew, they changed the

[42:55] transformer, power went back on, and

[42:57] then another transformer blew, they

[43:00] changed that and another one went on. So

[43:02] last, I believe it was around October,

[43:06] um the power went on and off three times

[43:10] on South Oak Street. My home is at 107

[43:13] South Oak. My name is Leslie Kasbarrow.

[43:15] I apologize for not saying that to begin

[43:18] with. Um I live at 107 South Oak. My uh

[43:23] the computer board inside of our HVAC

[43:26] unit was blown out. Uh both the

[43:30] electricians from the town told me it

[43:33] was because of the power outages as did

[43:36] the four separate HVAC companies who

[43:39] still have not been able to find a a

[43:42] control board to put in to fix my brand

[43:45] new HVAC system that I put in uh a year

[43:50] less than a year ago. My entire winter

[43:52] was spent with space heaters and a gas

[43:55] fireplace. Thankfully, I'm in a position

[43:58] where I can afford to pay twice as much

[44:01] for my utilities because I can't use my

[44:03] brand new HVAC system. If you're

[44:05] planning on 10 more housing units on the

[44:08] exact same block,

[44:11] I want to make sure that we're not going

[44:15] to have issues with power, that there's

[44:17] substantial issues with power. I know

[44:20] having had meetings with the town and

[44:22] the town has and I would like to

[44:25] personally commend Corey um for

[44:28] following through, taking very accurate

[44:31] notes and and and really trying to

[44:34] assist us with a variety of issues we

[44:36] had and I have absolutely no complaints

[44:40] about any of that. He stood up to his

[44:42] word on everything. I'm not looking to

[44:45] damper anyone's projects. Certainly, I

[44:48] own a restaurant. So, when you bring

[44:49] more people in, it's much more money in

[44:51] my pocket, but I don't want to live

[44:54] another winter with pieced together, and

[44:56] I'm certainly not going through a summer

[44:58] here with no air conditioning. So, I

[45:01] want to make sure that there are things

[45:04] in place that will guarantee that we're

[45:07] not going to cause more problems with

[45:09] the grid by putting all these new

[45:13] houses. That's my one concern.

[45:15] >> Thank you.

[45:16] Thank you for that, Senator.

[45:18] Any other comments from the general

[45:20] public?

[45:21] >> I just want to say I think it's

[45:23] spectacular to have a have that built

[45:25] here in Eden. I mean, I see people

[45:28] copying that all over Eastern North

[45:30] Carolina. I think uh it's just

[45:33] wonderful.

[45:35] >> Thank you, Larry.

[45:38] >> Okay, come come forward.

[45:45] My name is Mimi Stark. I live on Philip

[45:47] Street in the Middle Village. Um, I've

[45:50] never paid attention to any of this.

[45:51] is my first night to know about it.

[45:54] My concerns that the houses are not so

[45:56] tight together that if you sneeze on one

[46:00] porch, they say, "God bless you." One

[46:02] down. Um, I think there needs to be a

[46:04] substantial sideyard between these

[46:06] houses. And I I question if six is too

[46:09] many, perhaps it should be four.

[46:11] [clears throat]

[46:12] I think it's [laughter] wonderful. It's

[46:13] going to be used. I hope they're

[46:14] charming. I hope they look just like

[46:16] that original little house that's there.

[46:18] But I just I don't want to see it be so

[46:20] tied together that it it looks

[46:21] overcrowded.

[46:24] >> Thank you.

[46:32] » Okay, there appearing to be no further

[46:35] public comment. Okay, come on Pat.

[46:37] >> I'm Pat Groker. I also live in the mill

[46:40] village and I'm just wondering what the

[46:42] distance is from wall to wall on those

[46:46] houses in the mill village it's 27 ft.

[46:50] So if it's at least that much it looks

[46:52] like it'll be okay.

[46:56] Do you know do you know approximately

[46:59] >> I just want to reiterate that this is

[47:01] just this is just

[47:03] >> this is not yet and then we can we're

[47:05] going to work through for as we get to

[47:07] our special use permit um but this is

[47:10] just for reasonzoning to move forward

[47:11] with the

[47:14] site design and stuff like that all that

[47:16] >> they'll be back here the preservation

[47:18] commission also

[47:19] >> it's just outside the pres

[47:21] >> so they'll be back the applicant will be

[47:24] back Yes, correct.

[47:27] >> Yes.

[47:28] >> And we've got a excellent example of how

[47:30] it works, but it can work either way.

[47:33] >> Here we have an applicant who's asking

[47:35] for the change from R5 to R3 and they're

[47:38] going to come back later to request the

[47:41] special. And then earlier we had Mr.

[47:45] sellers and Chris come to us and they

[47:46] ask for a reasonzoning from R5 to R3 and

[47:51] then follow that up in the same here

[47:53] tonight as for um the approval of the

[47:56] special use permit. That's right.

[47:57] >> So, one did in one meeting and one's

[48:00] doing it one now and

[48:01] >> that was because of the snowstorm that

[48:03] kind of hooked us up with with the first

[48:06] the special use per they come that's

[48:07] when the conditions for the placement

[48:08] property. This is just the reason I need

[48:10] to see it. It's even allowable to move

[48:11] forward, but that's

[48:14] >> And does the um the special use permit

[48:18] does it always involve the TRC, the

[48:19] technical review committee, or is that

[48:21] just a certain size development?

[48:23] >> Uh usually certain size development

[48:25] coming in. Uh these what I would do is

[48:27] uh which David has left, but see what

[48:30] needs to be done from an infrastructure

[48:32] standpoint if the taps are still there.

[48:34] Uh but it's just an infield development.

[48:36] that's not one of your larger

[48:37] developments that will require all kinds

[48:40] of, you know, infrastructure to be

[48:41] placed on the property. So, uh, we'll

[48:44] probably have like a small TRC that we

[48:46] would run. This is just, um, we would

[48:50] probably do that either right before or

[48:52] just after to make sure everything's

[48:54] been this is a smaller development

[48:56] trigger.

[48:57] >> And given the concerns that have been

[48:59] raised with the electric department be a

[49:01] part of that smaller version of the T.

[49:02] >> Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Usually

[49:04] it's department within the town that

[49:07] would be a part of any small discussions

[49:10] that would require that. Absolutely.

[49:12] >> And at those meetings you'll bring it up

[49:14] to the um electoral department.

[49:16] >> That way we can have some answers at the

[49:17] next meeting to be able to kind of tell

[49:20] you what's going on and if it's good to

[49:23] go.

[49:27] » You got a question? So Cy, last meeting

[49:29] we talked about the new grid and how we

[49:32] can transfer power from station to

[49:36] station. Correct.

[49:40] Would if 10 of these were to overload

[49:42] it, do we have room to transfer it to

[49:45] another area?

[49:46] >> Yes. So we feed in off Church Street in

[49:50] two locations, particularly with the

[49:52] location. Schwarz is located right at of

[49:58] our

[50:00] circuit disconnects. Um, and one of the

[50:02] things we've been doing and particularly

[50:04] for this one is to move the

[50:07] [clears throat] service line for this

[50:08] particular property just north of that

[50:10] so it stays on. But one of the things

[50:13] we've been doing for our system

[50:14] improvements is putting those back into

[50:16] auto closures where they cycle and close

[50:19] on their own. So as things return, crews

[50:22] don't have to come back out and switch

[50:24] those in as sealed units. We do have the

[50:27] ability to feed the Queen Street

[50:29] location from both Hill Village side as

[50:31] well as the Oakland Street side. And

[50:34] there was some um

[50:37] above ground power that was removed from

[50:40] the rear of the property when we um were

[50:43] able to work with the former propert

[50:48] um from the original six homes that were

[50:50] there. So there may be a third entry

[50:53] point at the north end of this 2acre

[50:57] property that's already there for

[50:58] overhead. So we may have three options

[51:01] to choose from here. And with the uh

[51:05] mill village line, do we have the same

[51:07] degree? How do we have the same degree

[51:09] of difficulties as was described on Oak

[51:12] Street?

[51:13] >> No. Um particularly with Mill Village,

[51:15] the only service area in town that's

[51:17] powered by Dominion. So it's not a town

[51:20] electric customer,

[51:21] >> but you can still route it that way. Uh

[51:24] is that through some interlocal

[51:25] agreement or

[51:26] >> we have overhead that um parallels the

[51:30] area there along the railroad track

[51:33] >> um and east to west along church and

[51:36] then north to south on as well as on

[51:38] street 400 block of east

[51:42] >> and next is up and running in that part

[51:44] of town.

[51:45] >> Um I I do not know.

[51:49] But um we started really at our most

[51:52] outer edges and we're working our way

[51:54] back towards the center there.

[51:58] >> Any other questions, comments, concerns?

[52:04] » Okay, as we've done before, uh let's go

[52:06] through the five questions. Um the first

[52:09] question is whether or not the um

[52:11] resoning would not endanger the public

[52:14] health or safety. And I would entertain

[52:17] a motion, a second regard that question.

[52:22] » Second.

[52:22] >> Okay, I got a motion and a second. All

[52:25] in favor of finding that the

[52:27] reasonzoning will not endanger the

[52:29] public health or safety, please signify

[52:31] by saying I.

[52:32] >> I.

[52:33] >> Any opposed?

[52:35] >> Okay. Next, uh we need to consider um

[52:38] whether or not we'll adopt a finding

[52:40] that the reasonzoning will not injure

[52:42] the value of adjoining or abuing

[52:43] property. We got a motion. We have a

[52:46] second.

[52:46] >> Second.

[52:47] >> Okay. All in favor of finding that this

[52:50] resoning will not injure the value of

[52:51] adjoining or rebuting property, please

[52:53] signify by saying I.

[52:55] >> I.

[52:55] >> Any opposed?

[52:59] » Next, we need to consider uh whether

[53:01] this resoning will be in harmony with

[53:03] the area which is located. I entertain a

[53:06] motion and second regard that finding.

[53:07] So move.

[53:09] >> Okay, we've got a um motion in a second.

[53:12] Um, all in favor of finding that this

[53:16] resoning will be in harmony with the

[53:17] area in which it is located, please

[53:19] signify by saying I.

[53:21] >> Any opposed?

[53:23] >> And next, the fourth sub question is

[53:25] whether this would be in conformity with

[53:27] the land use plan, thorough effect plan,

[53:28] or other plan officially adopted by town

[53:30] council. Do I have a motion?

[53:32] >> All right. Second.

[53:33] >> Second.

[53:34] >> Got a motion and second. All in favor of

[53:36] finding that the proposed reszoning will

[53:38] be in conformity with the land use plan,

[53:41] thair plan or other plan officially

[53:43] adopted by town council, please signify

[53:45] by signify by saying I. I.

[53:47] >> Any opposed?

[53:49] >> Okay. Having answered those four sub

[53:51] questions in the affirmative. Uh we need

[53:54] a motion and a second on the um ultimate

[53:56] question of whether or not we're going

[53:57] to approve this um group proposed

[54:00] resoning. So moved.

[54:02] >> Is that a motion?

[54:03] >> Second. Got a motion and second. All in

[54:05] favor of approving the reszoning from R5

[54:09] residential to R3 [clears throat]

[54:10] residential, please signify by saying I.

[54:13] >> Any oppose?

[54:15] >> Okay,

[54:17] thank you. Just bear with me. We got two

[54:19] more to go. The next matter that we need

[54:22] to consider is identified as public

[54:25] hearing dem.

[54:29] This is an application from Paul Latcher

[54:32] requesting to create six new lots by

[54:34] subdividing property located at 204

[54:37] Whiteman Lane. The um property is also

[54:41] identified by pen number 7805-58-786.

[54:49] And Dwayne, you're earning your keep on

[54:51] board.

[54:52] >> This was a lot of work this last couple

[54:55] question.

[54:56] >> Yes, sir. How far's lane was in the

[54:58] county?

[54:59] >> This is uh in the ETJ. So, it's uh in

[55:02] the planning jurisdiction of the town,

[55:03] but is it is outside the corporate

[55:04] limits? Yes, sir.

[55:06] >> It is uh

[55:09] >> I don't know how far it is in the ETJ

[55:11] away from county property, but that's uh

[55:14] it's within our county or town

[55:16] jurisdiction.

[55:16] >> It's in the county. It's in the county

[55:18] for tax purposes, but in the planning

[55:20] jurisdiction for town purposes

[55:23] [laughter]

[55:24] >> that extend and that extends one mile

[55:26] past our corporate limits or our city

[55:28] limit. So it's within that one mile

[55:30] zone.

[55:30] >> Okay.

[55:31] >> Does that make sense?

[55:32] >> So that's right across from uh Ford

[55:34] Place and Hampton

[55:36] >> in that same down that same white lane.

[55:38] Yes. Right.

[55:41] >> Yeah. And that is within one mile city.

[55:46] You trying to get out? I was just having

[55:48] to hear this.

[55:49] >> No, no. When when you say white lane,

[55:52] you know, always white lane was in the

[55:54] county, right? So, so I was just

[55:55] wondering where resident at.

[55:57] >> Yeah, he knows where his brothers are,

[55:59] >> huh?

[55:59] >> You know where your brothers are?

[56:01] [laughter]

[56:03] » Your water and sewer will go through who

[56:05] then?

[56:08] » Okay.

[56:09] >> So, is that property for sale?

[56:13] north of that was just north of where

[56:21] » that's all the way down.

[56:25] » Was that the property

[56:29] one time?

[56:30] >> That's more than

[56:32] >> the way the crow flies.

[56:36] more than a mile down there.

[56:39] >> It just feels like way down there. We've

[56:42] got we've got that ETJ mark on our map.

[56:45] >> That's down by you. A jar.

[56:47] >> There you go.

[56:50] >> That's down there up.

[56:53] >> Sit in our ATJ.

[56:54] >> Yeah, it goes actually down to where the

[56:56] pavement is the rocks.

[56:58] >> The pavement goes to the dirt road.

[56:59] That's it goes up.

[57:00] >> That crow will be tired by time.

[57:03] [laughter]

[57:07] » Okay, Dwayne, we'll leave it up to you

[57:10] for the presentation of staff reports.

[57:12] Yes sir. And uh I look now see I made a

[57:14] mistake on my staff report. This was for

[57:15] six lots

[57:17] >> not for four. I put four down there but

[57:18] this is for six lots. Um it is a basic

[57:22] manage permit for a subdivision to

[57:24] subdivide lots not for a subdivision

[57:26] which you would think of create new

[57:28] roads extension to sewer services or

[57:30] anything like that. It's just creating

[57:31] new lots. So we're turning uh they're

[57:34] going to be turning 18 acres uh which is

[57:36] right there or 20 residential. Right now

[57:38] it is vacant uh I guess existing

[57:41] farmland or or was farmland at some

[57:43] point. Um so with this I I go through

[57:46] and look at encourage population growth,

[57:48] promote economic uh development, provide

[57:50] recreation and open space and foster

[57:52] housing choice. Uh the goals listed um

[57:55] the most applicable goals is development

[57:57] develop and implement strategies to

[58:00] promote three generation population

[58:01] growth in town that builds on existing

[58:03] resources and efforts to attract retirey

[58:05] population. expand these efforts to

[58:07] include attracting new millennial and

[58:08] mid-career professionals. Uh ensure the

[58:11] town's development ordinance is

[58:12] conducive to economic trends as telecom

[58:14] community college industry

[58:15] entrepreneurship establish local

[58:17] development policies, programs,

[58:18] resources promote increased ownership

[58:20] within town. Uh

[58:24] >> the town will encourage the location of

[58:26] business residential development service

[58:27] providers that serve retirees while

[58:29] create jobs for younger residents. Uh

[58:31] the town encourages the development of

[58:33] housing type that accommodate retirees,

[58:35] young professional, millennials.

[58:37] Um as you stated, this is outside of the

[58:39] town corporate limits. Uh uh the water

[58:43] uh services um

[58:46] will be uh available by Chan County and

[58:49] electric by the town. Uh the park is

[58:51] located um within the town's HJ. Um

[58:55] [clears throat] the subject uh property

[58:57] is located uh on Whiteitman Lane.

[59:00] Uh so basically R20 means a minimum of

[59:04] 20,000 square feet. If you look at the

[59:06] preliminary plat that was submitted

[59:07] within the application, we're ranging

[59:09] anywhere between uh two and almost 4

[59:12] acres I believe it was. So well above um

[59:16] what is actually needed for that

[59:18] particular zoning district. Uh the

[59:21] recommendation of the major special use

[59:22] per process requires advocates to

[59:24] specify specify the exact proposed use

[59:26] of land uh and allows town council to

[59:28] place restriction on the actual

[59:29] development. Uh according to the

[59:31] advocates, I'll let them speak on this

[59:33] uh for single family detached uh loans.

[59:36] Uh the plan board met on March 2nd, 2026

[59:38] and unanimously uh recommended approval

[59:41] uh of the miss use permit application uh

[59:45] along with the uh five questions that

[59:47] y'all will vote on tonight. Uh next is

[59:51] the uh future land use map uh showing

[59:54] the location. Uh and if you have that

[59:56] front of you, Councilman Bond, you'll

[59:57] see that is just inside the ETJ

[1:00:02] limits

[1:00:02] >> as a profile. as

[1:00:06] um so uh the proposed um staff

[1:00:11] recommendation along with the planning

[1:00:12] board all details and improvements uh

[1:00:15] shall be installed and constructed in

[1:00:16] according UDO requirements all necessary

[1:00:19] traffic improve improvements utility

[1:00:21] installation and connections um shall be

[1:00:24] installed uh by the developer and fees

[1:00:27] associated fees board and storm water

[1:00:29] drainage shall meet any required NCDQ

[1:00:31] regulations

[1:00:33] Um and staff does find the proposed you

[1:00:35] speak before me with the uh land use

[1:00:38] plan, eat joint land use plan um for you

[1:00:42] know lower density uh residential areas.

[1:00:46] >> Yeah, I hear you right. But didn't you

[1:00:48] say water was going to be provided by

[1:00:50] the county?

[1:00:53] >> So electricity is not going to be

[1:00:54] provided by the town either, right?

[1:00:56] >> Yeah, we have electric runs down by the

[1:00:58] way. How

[1:00:59] >> about is it

[1:01:02] We have electric that comes in north

[1:01:04] from Paradise across Paradise Fur along

[1:01:08] the dirt path to the farthest end of

[1:01:12] Paradise and then down or

[1:01:16] » that is

[1:01:19] electric

[1:01:21] any concerns from residents?

[1:01:26] >> Not that I'm aware of. I think I've

[1:01:27] spoken to a few. Um, I think there was

[1:01:29] some misconception cuz anytime somebody

[1:01:31] hears about a major subdivision, they

[1:01:33] automatically think uh they're going to

[1:01:35] put in a lot of houses when when in fact

[1:01:37] this is just creating lots that are

[1:01:39] going to be accessed only from White

[1:01:41] Lane. There's no internal roads. Uh,

[1:01:43] it's just going to be very large lots

[1:01:45] with homes on them.

[1:01:47] >> How many? Six.

[1:01:48] >> Six.

[1:01:49] That's right.

[1:01:50] >> These lots different size.

[1:01:52] >> Yeah, I think they range and I I'll let

[1:01:54] the advocate speak on it. you have your

[1:01:55] preliminary uh uh plat uh in your

[1:01:59] application. I want to say they range

[1:02:01] from 2 point some acres to high three

[1:02:04] acres.

[1:02:08] » This is sort of more of the same I mean

[1:02:10] it sort of down there now.

[1:02:13] >> Yeah, it's it's very rural down there.

[1:02:15] This is going to maintain the rural

[1:02:17] feeling. It's not uh high density. It's

[1:02:19] very very low density. Like I said, a

[1:02:22] developer could go in there and put in

[1:02:23] 20,000t lots, which is a half acre.

[1:02:27] >> And it's currently on what right now?

[1:02:29] >> R20.

[1:02:29] And it's going down to R4.

[1:02:32] >> No, no reszoning. It's just R20. Except

[1:02:35] this is going to be a lot higher density

[1:02:37] because it's larger lots.

[1:02:43] » Okay. Any other questions of the So,

[1:02:46] this is still going to be classified as

[1:02:48] county land. It's still county land, but

[1:02:51] we've got zoning control over that.

[1:02:54] >> I got that. But it's still going to be

[1:02:55] county land.

[1:02:58] >> Yes.

[1:03:01] >> All right.

[1:03:01] >> You know, it's town utility, right?

[1:03:03] >> Yes.

[1:03:05] >> Any more questions?

[1:03:07] >> Is that where

[1:03:10] is because it's

[1:03:11] >> because it's within the ATJ.

[1:03:16] » Okay.

[1:03:18] neighbors in the city.

[1:03:20] >> All right. Thank you.

[1:03:21] >> Thanks, sir.

[1:03:24] >> Next, we'll hear from the applicant or

[1:03:26] the applicant's representatives. Good

[1:03:29] evening.

[1:03:31] >> Good evening. My name is Eddie Hman. I'm

[1:03:33] a professional land surveyor and I'm

[1:03:35] helping the client with the project. Uh

[1:03:37] we've done a bad survey prevention

[1:03:41] subdivision plat here of six locks. The

[1:03:43] clients wanted to use each all the

[1:03:46] existing drainage of the agriculture

[1:03:49] land and actually did have a

[1:03:51] [clears throat] crop planted on it last

[1:03:52] year, soybeans. Um,

[1:03:55] and they didn't want to disrupt the

[1:03:56] drainage. So, we're going to let each

[1:03:58] cut of land be a lot and they vary in

[1:04:01] sizes from just a little under two acres

[1:04:05] to 4 and 12 acres, 4.3 acres. Again,

[1:04:09] there's we're putting six units on 18

[1:04:11] acres of land. which is very low

[1:04:14] density. Uh like I said, it exists under

[1:04:18] R20 zoning which would allow uh a lot on

[1:04:21] every half acre. Uh but but going with

[1:04:24] the low density end is not to disrupt

[1:04:26] the drainage. Like I said, the existing

[1:04:28] drainage patterns are set up. So we

[1:04:30] didn't feel like going through and

[1:04:32] disrupting all that and doing a lot of

[1:04:34] land disturbing. Each cut of ground is

[1:04:36] going to be a one unit residential lot

[1:04:39] or one house. Um the

[1:04:45] um like I said the all the joint owners

[1:04:47] got mailings for the meetings. Uh you

[1:04:50] notify them all by mailings and uh but

[1:04:53] I'll be here to answer any questions you

[1:04:55] may have. And let me speak to your

[1:04:57] question about the ETJ.

[1:05:00] As cities grow, they want to have a say

[1:05:03] in what's been going on closely adjacent

[1:05:05] to into the county areas. So every city

[1:05:08] municipality has an ETJ that they have a

[1:05:11] say in of what's coming because at some

[1:05:13] point this may get annexed in later down

[1:05:16] the line. Uh but so as mun

[1:05:19] municipalities grow in all the counties

[1:05:22] they have an ETJ so they they can have a

[1:05:25] say in what's going on and uh and that's

[1:05:28] what's taking place here. We're actually

[1:05:30] in the county and will remain in the

[1:05:32] county, but the uh but the city has a

[1:05:35] say on what's happening at their back

[1:05:37] door for now.

[1:05:39] >> Okay. What size houses are you planning

[1:05:41] on building?

[1:05:43] [clears throat]

[1:05:43] >> Uh we're going to have to set up a

[1:05:46] um

[1:05:48] G restrictions and we'll probably be

[1:05:50] around 2,2500 square foot. Um, my plan

[1:05:55] is is not to build every house, but to

[1:05:57] just turn them into lots and then there

[1:06:00] sell them. Um, we may build a few houses

[1:06:02] cuz I do build homes for a living. So,

[1:06:05] we may build a few houses on a couple of

[1:06:06] them. We are not 100% sure yet. We're

[1:06:08] just trying to get this all kind of

[1:06:10] passed through and um get this part

[1:06:14] done.

[1:06:15] >> So, you're [clears throat] trying to get

[1:06:16] it established, build a couple of homes,

[1:06:18] and then sell the rest of the land for

[1:06:20] >> We could Well, we we could sell the

[1:06:22] lots. Yes, sir.

[1:06:25] >> But we will but we will set up deed

[1:06:26] restrictions because of course if we're

[1:06:28] going to keep some of the lots to build

[1:06:29] on, we want to make sure that the house

[1:06:31] that are built next to us follow the

[1:06:33] same guidelines that we are going to

[1:06:34] build.

[1:06:34] >> Is this going to be like a little

[1:06:36] community? You going to have streets in

[1:06:38] here?

[1:06:39] >> No.

[1:06:39] >> You think of that?

[1:06:40] >> Every every lot in here is going to

[1:06:42] throw on Whitman.

[1:06:46] » He's got a copy.

[1:06:47] >> But I'll show it to you.

[1:06:49] >> Can I can I approach you?

[1:06:51] >> Yeah, sure. Huh? I ain't going to shoot

[1:06:52] you. [laughter]

[1:06:56] » I hope so. Nice meeting you.

[1:06:59] This too small for you to read. This is

[1:07:02] >> I got glasses.

[1:07:08] » Each cutt

[1:07:18] I know that good. Okay. family that

[1:07:20] lives down there. That's why I'm asking

[1:07:22] a whole lot of questions.

[1:07:26] » Okay. So, each lot is going to go

[1:07:28] straight to the to the lane itself all

[1:07:31] the way to the back.

[1:07:32] >> Okay.

[1:07:41] » All right. I'll be available for any

[1:07:42] other questions. Do you foresee uh if

[1:07:46] you were to sell one of these lots um

[1:07:48] somebody else asking us to subdivide

[1:07:50] that even further or would the covenants

[1:07:52] protect against that or the the deeds

[1:07:54] protected?

[1:07:55] >> We will protect we'll in the deed

[1:07:56] restrictions we will put that they are

[1:07:58] to stay have we subdivide them.

[1:08:00] >> All right.

[1:08:01] >> Yes sir. Thank you.

[1:08:05] Still they told me what kind of houses

[1:08:06] you're doing

[1:08:08] >> single family

[1:08:10] >> homes

[1:08:12] in the in the D restrictions

[1:08:13] >> 2500

[1:08:14] >> in the D restrictions we'll put 2

[1:08:17] >> 2400 foot homes um the lots are nice

[1:08:20] size you know

[1:08:22] >> um

[1:08:22] >> if you think of a spec home at all

[1:08:25] >> yeah I mean that's we we do plan to

[1:08:27] build a spec

[1:08:29] what you know

[1:08:30] >> we do we do plan on building a spec home

[1:08:32] and that's why we would need heat

[1:08:34] restrictions. Um because if not then I

[1:08:36] could build a spec house and then they

[1:08:38] have a bunch of double wide trailers and

[1:08:39] that's not going to be

[1:08:41] >> in comparison to what we want it to look

[1:08:43] like. And

[1:08:48] » any more questions of the advocate?

[1:08:50] >> I have a question.

[1:08:52] >> Okay. I have a question.

[1:08:54] >> When you can come up um when it's we're

[1:08:56] getting ready to move to the public

[1:08:58] comment

[1:08:58] >> and if you'll express your concerns or

[1:09:00] questions and then we can bring them

[1:09:02] back up. Okay. We'll be glad to hear

[1:09:04] from you. We get really close to that

[1:09:06] part of the agenda. All right.

[1:09:08] >> Okay.

[1:09:08] >> So, we'll bring you up. Okay. From here

[1:09:11] from this uh council, are there any more

[1:09:13] questions?

[1:09:13] >> No, I'm eager to see what uh my uncle

[1:09:16] has to say. [laughter]

[1:09:19] >> Thank you. And if you were to stick

[1:09:20] around,

[1:09:21] >> I'll move over.

[1:09:22] >> Thank you.

[1:09:24] >> So, next we have the public comment uh

[1:09:27] period of this public hearing and I will

[1:09:30] open the public hearing on this

[1:09:31] particular

[1:09:33] agenda item. So, if anyone has any

[1:09:35] questions or concerns, please come

[1:09:37] forward. We just ask that you identify

[1:09:39] yourself and limit your comments or

[1:09:41] questions to three minutes. So, please

[1:09:43] come forward.

[1:09:51] My name is Mary Copelan. Uh, some of my

[1:09:54] questions have already been asked, but

[1:09:56] anyway, I would like to know when the

[1:09:58] houses when they are built, will the

[1:10:01] houses be facing Whiteman Lane or will

[1:10:04] it be?

[1:10:04] >> Yes, Whiteman Lane. Yes, ma'am.

[1:10:06] >> Okay. All right. Will they all be the

[1:10:08] same color or

[1:10:10] >> No, that's they're going to be whatever

[1:10:13] the homeowner that would purchase the

[1:10:15] lot in the house would want to put a

[1:10:16] color.

[1:10:17] >> Okay. Um about how many bedrooms?

[1:10:21] >> Uh threebedroom, two bath is starting

[1:10:28] single families.

[1:10:30] >> Yes, ma'am.

[1:10:32] Um after you use part of the land that

[1:10:34] you plan to use or will other houses be

[1:10:37] built? Um

[1:10:38] >> no ma'am.

[1:10:39] >> The we have six lots. They're already

[1:10:41] subdivided by the ditches and that's

[1:10:43] where we keep we intend to keep them.

[1:10:46] >> Okay.

[1:10:49] >> All right. Thank you.

[1:10:50] >> Thank you. Thank you for coming forward.

[1:10:53] >> Anyone else?

[1:10:56] >> Are you going to stay quiet back there?

[1:10:59] [laughter]

[1:11:01] This sound like to close the public

[1:11:03] hearing on this particular agenda item.

[1:11:05] Uh are there any other questions um or

[1:11:08] comments by council other than the ones

[1:11:11] that we've already stated?

[1:11:14] There appearing none. We're going to go through once again the five question

[1:11:19] format that we have to follow. At this

[1:11:21] time, I would entertain a motion that

[1:11:24] the uh application and the proposed

[1:11:27] subdivision would not endanger the

[1:11:29] public health or safety. So move second.

[1:11:32] >> Okay, we got a motion and second. All in

[1:11:34] favor of finding that the subdivision

[1:11:37] will not endanger [clears throat] the

[1:11:38] public health or safety, please signify

[1:11:40] by saying I. I.

[1:11:42] >> Any opposed?

[1:11:44] Next question before us and I will

[1:11:47] entertain a motion to this effect that

[1:11:49] the proposed subdivision will not injure

[1:11:51] the value of a joining or abuing

[1:11:54] property.

[1:11:54] >> So second.

[1:11:55] >> Okay, we got a motion and second. All in

[1:11:57] favor of a finding that this proposed

[1:11:59] subdivision would not injure the value

[1:12:02] of adjoining or abing property, please

[1:12:04] signify by saying I. I.

[1:12:06] >> Any opposed?

[1:12:08] Next uh question before us. Uh, I'll

[1:12:11] seek a motion and second uh on a finding

[1:12:14] that this proposed subdivision will be

[1:12:16] in harmony in with the area in which it

[1:12:18] will be located. So move.

[1:12:20] >> Got a motion. Second and second. Got a

[1:12:23] motion and second. All in favor of a

[1:12:24] finding that this proposed subdivision

[1:12:27] will be in harmony with the area in

[1:12:29] which it is located. Please signify by

[1:12:30] saying I.

[1:12:31] >> I. Any opposed?

[1:12:34] Next uh question before us is whether

[1:12:37] this proposed subdivision will be in

[1:12:38] conformity with the LE plan, Thorf fair

[1:12:41] plan, or another officially adopted um

[1:12:44] plan um by the town council. So

[1:12:47] >> got a motion. Got a second.

[1:12:50] >> Got a motion and second. All in favor of

[1:12:52] finding that this proposed subdivision

[1:12:54] will be in conformity [clears throat]

[1:12:56] plan, thorough affair plan or other plan

[1:12:58] officially adopted by town council,

[1:13:00] please signify by saying I. I.

[1:13:02] >> Any opposed?

[1:13:04] Lastly, that mo moves us to the open

[1:13:06] ultimate question. I will seek a motion

[1:13:09] and a second that town council approve

[1:13:11] the uh major special use permit

[1:13:14] application as presented. Do I have a

[1:13:17] motion?

[1:13:18] >> Motion and a second. All in favor of

[1:13:21] council approving uh this major special

[1:13:23] use permit application, please signify

[1:13:26] by saying I. I.

[1:13:27] >> Any opposed?

[1:13:29] >> Okay. Thank you, gentlemen.

[1:13:31] >> Thank you very much.

[1:13:35] We actually

[1:13:51] » The next matter before us is a public

[1:13:54] hearing identified by

[1:13:57] case number MSU26-03.

[1:14:01] This is an application from Ryan Bond

[1:14:03] LLC requesting permission to construct a

[1:14:07] building to provide business incubator

[1:14:09] space for small businesses and outside

[1:14:12] storage located at 114 and 116 Mexico

[1:14:16] Road. The property is further identified

[1:14:18] as pin number 780500-34-3829.

[1:14:26] And at this time, Dwayne, you're center

[1:14:29] stage again. Please come forward. Is

[1:14:30] that your report?

[1:14:32] >> You still got to come in tomorrow.

[1:14:34] >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no.

[1:14:37] >> This is uh this is uh good stuff. So, um

[1:14:41] application before you today um I sat

[1:14:44] down with uh with one of the applicants

[1:14:47] and trying to figure out what route to

[1:14:49] go because this is fairly unique uh

[1:14:51] idea. Um so, basically uh we have 1.67

[1:14:56] 67 acres at 114 and 116 Mexico Road. Uh

[1:15:01] the existing land use is is commercial

[1:15:03] the zoning is commercial highway.

[1:15:05] Existing land use is vacant property

[1:15:06] with existing uh building um and

[1:15:09] appeared to been commercial at some

[1:15:11] point. Um so going through the four

[1:15:14] things again I won't bore everyone with

[1:15:16] it. uh you know this one really hints on

[1:15:20] the promoting of economic development uh

[1:15:24] and uh identified the goals and

[1:15:26] objectives and policies uh in place uh

[1:15:29] that kind of mirror what this uh you

[1:15:32] know use would be. Um pro promote and

[1:15:36] establish a broad range of new

[1:15:37] commercial uses in town. Um develop and

[1:15:40] implement strategies to promote three

[1:15:42] generations of population growth. uh

[1:15:45] developed a strategy for expanding job

[1:15:47] opportunities in healthcare, tourism and

[1:15:48] vocational training sectors. Uh town

[1:15:52] encouraged the location of business,

[1:15:53] residential development, service

[1:15:54] providers that serve retirees while

[1:15:55] creating uh jobs for younger residences.

[1:15:58] Uh the the town of Edington encourages

[1:16:00] new commercial uses to locate in any

[1:16:02] commercial area uh within town. Uh the

[1:16:05] town encourages entrepreneurship and the

[1:16:06] opening of new locally owned businesses,

[1:16:08] particularly retail establish

[1:16:09] establishments and uh restaurants. Um

[1:16:15] property is uh in the ETJ um

[1:16:21] but it's just outside of the town

[1:16:24] municipal limits.

[1:16:28] [laughter]

[1:16:29] >> Uh the applica application for you is

[1:16:32] requested to have a major space use

[1:16:33] permit for a multi-use incubator space

[1:16:37] uh for small businesses uh and with uh

[1:16:39] some outside storage. Uh so what I did

[1:16:42] is being uh kind of a unique use and not

[1:16:45] really defined within our UDO uh I went

[1:16:48] with outside storage as needed a major

[1:16:49] space use permit um and then anything

[1:16:51] else that kind of fall underneath that.

[1:16:54] Um and uh the major space use permit

[1:16:56] process requires applicants to specify

[1:16:58] the exact proposed use of land and

[1:17:00] allows town council to place

[1:17:01] restrictions on actual development. Uh

[1:17:03] you'll see uh where I took excerpts out

[1:17:06] of the UDO. Uh basically this is office

[1:17:08] use not otherwise classified uh an

[1:17:11] outside bulk storage of non-hazardous

[1:17:13] material. Um the planning board met on

[1:17:16] March 2nd and we unanimously recommended

[1:17:19] approval of legis permit uh with uh to

[1:17:22] town council with staff recommended

[1:17:24] conditions. Once again you have to

[1:17:26] answer those five questions. uh uh the

[1:17:29] proposed use is compatible with the

[1:17:30] eastern future land use map uh where it

[1:17:34] shows it as being a commercial uh space.

[1:17:38] So the uh applicable regulations from

[1:17:40] the UDO uh the following conditions were

[1:17:46] um suggested all details and

[1:17:48] improvements shall be installed and

[1:17:50] constructed according to UDO

[1:17:51] requirements. uh all necessary traffic

[1:17:53] improvements, utility installations and

[1:17:55] connections. Uh drainage uh storm water

[1:17:58] detention improvements shall be

[1:18:00] installed and associated fees by the

[1:18:02] developer and storm water drainage shall

[1:18:04] meet uh any required NCDQ regulations.

[1:18:08] Um and staff does find the proposed use

[1:18:10] of conformity with the land use plan.

[1:18:12] >> Uh so that's kind of where it is now

[1:18:16] with the staff.

[1:18:18] Can that be county water town electric

[1:18:22] and also have access to town sewage?

[1:18:25] Correct.

[1:18:26] >> Uh no. So it is just uh north of that.

[1:18:29] It'll be uh we'll have to have future

[1:18:31] conversations about any annexations that

[1:18:33] wish to happen for the extension of uh

[1:18:35] services. Um and Mexico Road is a DOT

[1:18:39] road. So uh if they want driveway

[1:18:41] permit, if they need driveway permits,

[1:18:42] it would go through NC DOT.

[1:18:44] uh if they want an extension of any type

[1:18:46] of utility services, then we would have

[1:18:48] to look at a annexation of the property.

[1:18:50] >> And what type of business is you right

[1:18:52] now?

[1:18:52] >> So, it's it's incubator space, and I'll

[1:18:54] let the applicants kind of speak on what

[1:18:56] they're thinking uh with it, but uh it's

[1:18:58] I believe it's up to six um five areas

[1:19:03] where a small business can have a

[1:19:05] startup. Um, and I'll I'll let them

[1:19:08] answer that, but it's it's uh I guess if

[1:19:11] uh someone wanted to do uh tent, I think

[1:19:14] was broad, then they can ran out of a

[1:19:16] space to do tent while they um they're

[1:19:18] not having to spend money on a larger um

[1:19:21] unnecessary area. So, they would have a

[1:19:23] place to do that.

[1:19:24] >> Is that commercial now?

[1:19:25] >> It is a commercial. Yes, sir.

[1:19:31] » All right. Any other questions? All

[1:19:33] right. At this time, we would um get a

[1:19:36] presentation from the owner's

[1:19:40] representative. I think we've got Dr.

[1:19:41] Brian Bun here.

[1:19:45] » Thank you so much. Um name's Brian Bun.

[1:19:48] Myself and Josh Ryenbark are kind of the

[1:19:50] two owners of this LLC. Um and a lot of

[1:19:54] this came out of just um you know

[1:19:56] brainstorming ideas and wanted to work

[1:19:58] together. Um you've been in Eden for

[1:19:59] about 12 years now. um of course work in

[1:20:02] the community as well as invest in the

[1:20:04] community. Um work with South Broad

[1:20:06] Investments have a building downtown. Um

[1:20:08] but they have a building as well as a

[1:20:09] couple rounds of properties in the area.

[1:20:11] So um you this is my home and my my hope

[1:20:13] is to make it better. Um you know Josh

[1:20:16] same been here a lot longer than I have.

[1:20:18] Um you know several wash houses. He's uh

[1:20:20] you involved in in entrepreneurship um

[1:20:23] and likes to make nice stuff as well. So

[1:20:25] we came together this idea. Um the

[1:20:28] acreage that we purchased is um just shy

[1:20:31] of uh 1 and 3/4 acres um there on Mexico

[1:20:34] Road and in between was the the Dixie

[1:20:36] Auto and the um there's a a garage there

[1:20:39] as well. Um you know with the goal of

[1:20:42] basically putting up a building um

[1:20:43] 10,000 foot metal building um on the

[1:20:46] space uh potential for another one in

[1:20:49] the future, but you know uh we'll kind

[1:20:51] of see how this goes. as well as to have

[1:20:53] um on-site uh storage opportunities. Um

[1:20:57] part of this is you know incubator for

[1:20:59] us as well as incubator for whoever

[1:21:01] wants to you know um start a business.

[1:21:04] Um some of the ideas that kind of

[1:21:06] swirled around and that spoke to a

[1:21:07] gentleman who um fixes boats in his

[1:21:10] driveway. He said he loved to have 3,000

[1:21:12] you know square foot to figure out hey

[1:21:13] how can I do this? This is nowhere for

[1:21:15] that need to um you know folks that

[1:21:17] might want to u um a place to store an

[1:21:20] RV. There's no real good places to do

[1:21:22] that in Edington. Um folks that somebody

[1:21:25] doing a um a tenting business out of

[1:21:27] their uh garage that needs 2,000 square

[1:21:29] foot. Uh there's nowhere to do that in

[1:21:31] Edington. So we said, "Well, let's try

[1:21:32] to find a way to get that in Eden." Um

[1:21:34] so that's where this came out of the the

[1:21:36] building. um as it is right now is

[1:21:38] 10,000 ft² um with 14T um garage doors

[1:21:43] as well as a door five doors um to be

[1:21:46] potentially divided up into up to five

[1:21:49] um 2,000 foot um um units as well as

[1:21:53] opportunities for using outdoor um

[1:21:55] space. There's a current building on the

[1:21:56] premises. It's about thousand square

[1:21:58] foot and um East Coast Site Works um

[1:22:01] which is the the business owner Josh

[1:22:03] Roden Mark is um is currently renting

[1:22:05] out that space. Um fixing it up for

[1:22:08] starters and then going to use that to

[1:22:09] help source some of their goods. So

[1:22:12] that's our goal and plan. Um

[1:22:16] >> what base Mexico road

[1:22:18] >> the the building?

[1:22:19] >> Yeah.

[1:22:20] >> So not exactly. Um the building's

[1:22:22] actually so there there's currently

[1:22:24] about thousand square foot building that

[1:22:26] is facing kind of perpendicular to the

[1:22:28] road. It's going to be behind that one.

[1:22:30] Um, so that's that's where we

[1:22:33] >> So that they can rent it out shortterm

[1:22:35] or long term, whatever y'all decide on

[1:22:38] or they will

[1:22:39] >> um, so I mean the

[1:22:42] I most likely it'll be long term because

[1:22:44] there will need to be, you know,

[1:22:45] infrastructure put in. Um, for instance,

[1:22:47] if they wanted 4,000 square foot, then

[1:22:49] there's going to be a wall that's going

[1:22:51] to come into that bay. Um, as well as

[1:22:53] whatever, you know, buildup needs to be

[1:22:54] done inside. Um

[1:22:57] so long term

[1:22:59] >> it was mentioned pl board meeting about

[1:23:01] bathrooms that that is a requirement is

[1:23:03] that correct

[1:23:05] >> bathroom inside the building

[1:23:09] >> yeah most likely we'll have at least one

[1:23:11] per unit.

[1:23:12] >> Yeah they they'll have to meet the

[1:23:13] building codes requirements. So that

[1:23:15] would be required for bathrooms.

[1:23:20] » Okay. Any more questions of that?

[1:23:25] Okay. Thank you, Dr. B.

[1:23:30] All right. I'd like to open the public

[1:23:32] hearing uh portion of this.

[1:23:36] Anybody here to speak on this particular

[1:23:38] application?

[1:23:40] >> I just have one question. Um,

[1:23:45] as we know, across from my home was

[1:23:48] built, it is someone who's supposed to

[1:23:50] have a a mobile auto repair and they're

[1:23:53] doing it all in their driveway, which

[1:23:55] leads to over trash and things around

[1:23:58] that. I wouldn't expect in a residential

[1:24:01] area. I know this is a commercial

[1:24:03] building, but [clears throat] they're

[1:24:04] going to have outdoor storage. So the

[1:24:06] question is, are they going anything

[1:24:08] stored outside is it going to be

[1:24:12] usable? In other words, I my my concern

[1:24:15] is that the town winds up having a

[1:24:16] junkyard because somebody rents a space

[1:24:19] and puts three cars that will never run

[1:24:22] in there and then it slowly becomes a

[1:24:25] place to store. For 100 bucks, I can

[1:24:27] store a junk car here, a junk car there.

[1:24:30] So, the outdoor space, are there going

[1:24:33] to be restrictions on what can be stored

[1:24:35] in that?

[1:24:37] >> Um, for us in particular, I I I don't

[1:24:41] prefer to have John. Um, and so for me

[1:24:44] to be able to keep tenants in these

[1:24:46] properties, it's going to have to be

[1:24:46] nice. Um, and our major goal is going to

[1:24:48] be or one of our goals is going to be to

[1:24:50] fence in everything with flat fence so

[1:24:52] that you can't see in. For instance, I'm

[1:24:54] going to charge them 100 bucks a month

[1:24:55] to char to park their RV. It needs to be

[1:24:57] secured, safe. Um, you know,

[1:25:01] if it's junk, it's got to go. Um, so

[1:25:03] that's not going to be part of what we

[1:25:05] have envisioned.

[1:25:06] >> So, whatever it's going to be stored,

[1:25:07] it's going to be usable in some form.

[1:25:10] >> Oh, correct.

[1:25:11] >> That that was my concern. I just didn't

[1:25:13] want because sometimes when you get

[1:25:14] these outdoor spaces, it goes from I'm

[1:25:18] going to just park my car here to all of

[1:25:20] a sudden you have

[1:25:21] >> junk everywhere.

[1:25:22] >> Yeah. It would be hard for us to make

[1:25:23] money if we had too much junk on the

[1:25:25] floor.

[1:25:26] >> I I thought so. Just want to put that on

[1:25:28] there.

[1:25:28] >> Thanks.

[1:25:29] >> Thank you.

[1:25:32] >> Okay. Any uh more comments from the

[1:25:35] public?

[1:25:36] >> All right. At this point, and I will

[1:25:39] order that the public comment section of

[1:25:40] the agenda item be closed. Uh any

[1:25:43] further questions or comments uh from uh

[1:25:46] town council before we deliberate on the

[1:25:48] questions that are before us.

[1:25:51] Okay, we've got this down pat by now. I

[1:25:53] hope do we have a a motion to the effect

[1:25:57] that a motion and a second that the

[1:25:59] proposed use will not endanger the

[1:26:01] public health or safety.

[1:26:02] >> So move.

[1:26:03] >> Got a motion and a second. All in favor

[1:26:05] of a finding that the proposed use will

[1:26:07] not endanger the public health or

[1:26:09] safety. Please say goodbye by saying I.

[1:26:11] >> I.

[1:26:11] >> Any opposed?

[1:26:13] Next, I'll entertain a motion that this

[1:26:15] proposed use will not injure the value

[1:26:17] of a joining or a budding property.

[1:26:20] >> Second.

[1:26:20] >> Okay, we've got a motion and a second.

[1:26:22] All in favor of a finding that the

[1:26:24] proposed use would not endanger the

[1:26:26] value of adjoining or abundant property.

[1:26:28] So, please signify by saying I.

[1:26:30] >> I.

[1:26:31] >> Any opposed? Next, we move forward to

[1:26:34] the uh question of whether this proposed

[1:26:36] use will be in harmony with the area in

[1:26:38] which it is located. I'll entertain a

[1:26:40] motion.

[1:26:41] >> Got a motion and a second. Um, all in

[1:26:44] favor of a finding that the proposed use

[1:26:46] will be in harmony with the area in

[1:26:48] which it is located, please signify by

[1:26:49] saying I. I

[1:26:51] >> any opposed?

[1:26:53] >> Fourth question. I'll entertain a motion

[1:26:55] that the proposed use will be in

[1:26:56] conformity with the land use plan

[1:26:58] thorough for fair plan or other plan

[1:27:00] officially adopted by town council.

[1:27:03] >> So move got a motion. Second.

[1:27:07] >> Okay. Got a motion and a second. Um, all

[1:27:10] in favor of a finding that this use will

[1:27:12] be in conformity with the land use plan,

[1:27:15] thoroughare plan, or other plan

[1:27:17] officially adopted by town council,

[1:27:19] please signify by saying I.

[1:27:20] >> I.

[1:27:21] >> Okay. The ultimate question. I'll

[1:27:23] entertain a motion that we approve the

[1:27:25] major special use permit application as

[1:27:28] presented.

[1:27:30] >> Okay, we got a motion and a second. All

[1:27:32] in favor of town council approving the

[1:27:34] major special use [clears throat] permit

[1:27:36] application as presented, please signify

[1:27:38] by I

[1:27:40] >> Any oppose? Okay. Thank you, Dr. Bond.

[1:27:43] Appreciate it. Good luck.

[1:27:47] >> Okay. Next, uh the item that uh we need

[1:27:50] to discuss uh requires us to go go into

[1:27:54] close session per North Carolina General

[1:27:56] Statute 143-318-11

[1:28:00] A4. Uh the purpose of the close to uh

[1:28:03] session is to discuss matters relating

[1:28:05] to the location or expansion of

[1:28:08] industries or other businesses in the

[1:28:10] area served by this public body

[1:28:12] including an agreement on a tentative

[1:28:14] list of economic development incentives

[1:28:16] that might be offered by the public body

[1:28:18] in u its negotiations. Uh I would

[1:28:22] entertain a motion that we go into close

[1:28:24] session.

[1:28:25] >> We got a motion and we got a second. All

[1:28:27] in favor of this body entering into

[1:28:29] close session for the purposes uh so set

[1:28:33] forth, please syndicate by saying I. I.

[1:28:36] >> Any opposed?

[1:28:37] >> Thank you ladies and gentlemen for being

[1:28:39] here. We've got to go into close

[1:28:41] session.

[1:28:43] Listen.

Town of Edenton March 23, 2026 Council Meeting

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