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Good evening everyone. The Hillsboro
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City Council meeting is now called to
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order. City clerk, may we please have
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the roll call?
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>> Thank you. Mayor Cole Adams,
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>> present.
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>> Schwang,
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>> present. Krillic,
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>> present. Braxdale,
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>> present. Cole,
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>> present.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Um, announcement of conflicts of
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interest on closed session items. Do any
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of the council members have a conflict
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of interest on any of the closed uh
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session items?
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Seeing none
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and um
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let me announce the public uh let me do
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a public announcement of the close
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session items. Um item A, conference
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with legal council existing litigation
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town of Hillsboro versus all persons
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interested in matters of proceedings for
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resolution number 22-83 adopting maximum
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rates for water service charges San
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Mateo Superior Court case number 23 CIV
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01028.
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Item B, conference with legal council,
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initiation of litigation pursuant to
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government code section 54956.9,
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print D, P print 4, one, potential case,
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consideration of appeal in existing
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litigation noted above.
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Item C, conference with labor
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negotiators
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pursuant to government code section
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54957.6,
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Six, unrepresented employee, city
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manager, agency designated negotiator,
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Mayor Sophie Cole. Any public comment on
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close session items?
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>> No, Mayor Cole. Thank you.
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>> Okay, we're now adjourned um to close
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session items and um we'll start the
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regular city council meeting at 6 p.m.
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Thank you.
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Meeting is now called to order.
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The regular city council meeting is now
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called to order. Um the time the date is
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um January 12th and the time is 606.
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Thank you. Um
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city clerk, may we please have the roll
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call.
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>> Thank you. Mayor Cole Adams present.
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Schwang
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>> present.
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>> Crowig present.
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>> Braxdale present. Cole
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>> present.
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>> Thank you. And
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>> please join me in pledge of allegiance.
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Um, before we get started this evening,
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I want to announce for the public that
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the public hearing item for 1200
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Jacqueline, which was noticed for this
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meeting, is no longer on the on this
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agenda. It will be rescheduled for a
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future meeting and notices will be
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recent.
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Um, do we have any report from close
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session? City attorney Diaz.
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>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I just wanted to
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announce for the council of the public.
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The council did convene in close session
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and consider three items. Um, at the
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conclusion of the close session, uh,
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there was no reportable action, but
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direction was given to staff. I do want
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to note that the council will reconvene
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in close session at the conclusion of
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this council meeting. Um, regarding item
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C. Thank you.
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Um, thank you. I think we have um a very
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distinguished guest with us this
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evening.
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Um, we will be presenting the 2026 HIP
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housing calendar in recognition of
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Hillsboro Student Calendar contest
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winner. And I would like to invite Laura
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Fenucci, director of programs of HIPPA
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to present the 2026 Hip Housing
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calendar.
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>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, good evening. My
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name is Laura Fenui. welcome. And I am
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pleased tonight to not only provide you
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with Hip Housing's 2026 calendar, but to
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also give you a little bit of update on
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the activities that we've been doing
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here in the town of Hillsboro. But
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first, we have an distinguished guest
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here this evening who I think I
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understand you already know because
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she's quite a talented artist and did a
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drawing for Recology. So, Miss Maline
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Woo, would you please come up here with
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me?
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>> Good evening, Natalie. Welcome.
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[laughter]
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>> So, um we have our calendar contest
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every year. We received about 120
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entries this year. We picked 14 winners.
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Um one for the 12 months, one our cover
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winner, and we also picked a winner to
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use in our annual appeal um
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correspondence to our donors. And I'm
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pleased to announce that Meline is our
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cover winner and she we honored her at
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our calendar contest party in December
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and she is going to read her quote.
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She's on the cover and her picture's up
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there. Okay. So, I'm going to have you
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read.
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» What my home means is being loved and
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cared for. My home is a safe place.
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Thank you.
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Um, thank you, Meline. I hope you
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register again for next year. [laughter]
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>> Yeah,
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>> we'll have you back. Um, so I don't know
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if you wanted to take a picture with
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Maline or can do that a little after I
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give my my spiel.
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>> Yeah, maybe I'll see your presentation.
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But okay,
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>> congratulations. This picture is
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beautiful. This cover is just lovely. I
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especially like the heart at the door.
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That's really sweet. very detailed work
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>> and we'll take a photo we'll take photos
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after you finish.
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>> Okay, great. Thank you so much.
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>> Okay. Um so I wanted to give just a
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brief update on activities uh for our
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ADU match collaboration.
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Um you know we meet monthly with Liz and
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Nicole to talk about outreach activities
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here in Hillsboro and then also in the
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surrounding communities in Sanonteo in
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Berlingame. Um, last fiscal year we had
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six members from Hillsboro contact our
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organization for information about our
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programs. So far this fiscal year we've
[6:18]
already had three. So we're on kind of
[6:20]
on track for that. Hopefully we'll
[6:22]
exceed that. Um, three other individuals
[6:25]
learned about HIP housing from our
[6:27]
outreach activities and uh, two
[6:30]
individuals in Hillsboro applied to the
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home sharing program. and we have one
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match here in our home sharing program
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that has been going on now for 5 years.
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So really proud about that match and
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they were so gracious to come and speak
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at an event that we had in the town of
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Athetherton. We have a similar
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collaboration. So they came and they
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talked about their home sharing match
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and it was really just very lovely for
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them to share their experience um with
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their with their match. Um, so a lot of
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the outreach that we've com uh that
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we've accomplished last year and we
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continue to do this year is we meet
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monthly with town staff. Um, we met with
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the CCAC committee to discuss outreach
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opportunities. Um, we also um met with
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the town's ADU specialists to share
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information about hip housing. Um, we
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attended the Memorial Day event, the
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neighborhood fest event. Um, we attended
[7:23]
the Berling game Hillsboro Chamber Mixer
[7:26]
and um, we held a joint presentation
[7:29]
with the ADU resource center and we
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invited homeowners that have ADUs to
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learn a little bit more about hip
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housing and also the ADU resource
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center. Um, we have advertising here in
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the town of Hillsboro. So, we thank you
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very much for that on the billboard ads.
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Um, I also produce a monthly flyer that,
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um, kind of details some of the seekers
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who are looking for housing and that
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gets posted on your e newswsletter.
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Um, we're also included in your town's
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eblast. We post flyers here at town
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hall. We have the ADU flyer in the
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permit packets. And um Hip Housing also
[8:05]
did a a mailing to all of our donors in
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Hillsboro and all of our former um home
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providers that participated in the home
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sharing program. Um we also sent
[8:15]
information to all the realators who
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work here in the town of Hillsboro and
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we found out that information from
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Samar. Um we've outreached with the
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schools here in Hillsboro. Um we've had
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correspondence they include information
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about our match program in their
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correspondence with faculty and with
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also families and um we're in the
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process of contacting some other schools
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some private schools that are in and
[8:40]
around Hillsboro area. Um we also do you
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know branch out and we do outreach in
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Berlingame and in Hill and in uh Berling
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game so at Berlingame and St. Mateo. So,
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we do a lot of flying to like local
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businesses, to the libraries, to the
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faith communities, service
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organizations, and nonprofit
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organizations.
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And two, um, upcoming activities that
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we're going to be hosting here hopefully
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in the spring is kind of an ADU match
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event where we invite homeowners here in
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Hillsboro to come learn about hip
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housing um, and then members of the
[9:14]
community who might be looking for
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housing. We've done this event twice in
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the town of Athetherton and we've had
[9:21]
really good turnout and it's really been
[9:23]
a a very successful event. Um we also
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recently entered into similar
[9:28]
collaboration with the town of Porola
[9:30]
Valley and they're thinking that it
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might be beneficial if a quarterly
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meeting could be scheduled with the
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towns of Athetherton um Hillsboro,
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Portulla Valley and Woodside just so
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that we can brainstorm on collect you
[9:44]
know collaborative outreach activities.
[9:46]
So hopefully that um will be in the
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works. And how we could use your help is
[9:51]
if you have any contacts at service
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clubs that we could contact to do
[9:55]
presentations at or even at the faith
[9:58]
community that would be very helpful as
[10:00]
well. Or if you're seeing any place
[10:02]
around town or in Berling game or hill
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in Sano where we might post information
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that we might have missed. Um if you
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could just let us know that would be
[10:10]
great. So, we're very appreciative for
[10:13]
your support of of this project and we
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really look forward uh we really, you
[10:18]
know, appreciate the efforts that Liz
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and Nicole um are doing to help make
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this possible and we really appreciate
[10:25]
your support and I'm happy to answer any
[10:27]
questions that you might have.
[10:28]
>> Uh thank you, Miss Penucci. Um any uh
[10:31]
comments or questions for my colleagues
[10:32]
from the council? Um Vice Mayor Ragdale,
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>> thank you so much. Um, I was so happy to
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be at the calendar presentation. Um, and
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so proud of Meline and and her family. I
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think uh grandma and grandpa are online
[10:49]
here to watch. Um, and uh anyway, um, so
[10:55]
happy with all of your outreach. I know
[10:57]
it's it's challenging and uh the idea of
[11:01]
the quarterly meeting with the four
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towns sounds like a fantastic idea and
[11:06]
maybe even the the match event we could
[11:09]
all combine for that maybe for more
[11:12]
people.
[11:12]
>> Yes.
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>> Um uh I think that's fabulous. And in
[11:16]
terms of clubs, um I presume you're in
[11:19]
contact with Peninsula Family Service.
[11:21]
Um but the Berling game Women's Club,
[11:23]
several of us are members. If you're not
[11:25]
in contact with them, we could connect
[11:27]
you. Great. Yeah, we we've tried. So,
[11:29]
we'd love to have a personal end. So,
[11:31]
that would be great. I'll do that. Thank
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you.
[11:33]
>> Great.
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>> Um,
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thank you. And also, um, regarding just
[11:41]
for residents in terms of information,
[11:43]
first of all, I think the outreach you
[11:45]
have going is quite impressive and it's
[11:48]
fantastic. I know it's gotten
[11:49]
significantly
[11:51]
more expansive over the past four to
[11:53]
five years. Um, regarding the screening
[11:56]
that you do for potential um, renters to
[11:58]
do the match, could you just give us one
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or two key screening things that you do
[12:03]
for potential renters? What do you do?
[12:05]
>> Sure. So, our screening process is
[12:07]
really the same for both home providers
[12:09]
and home seekers. We require the client
[12:11]
to meet personally with one of our home
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sharing uh, team. And for home for home
[12:16]
providers, we can do a home visit. So,
[12:18]
we'd like to see the environment that
[12:20]
they're offering. So, we will come to
[12:21]
the home to do the home visit. Um, the
[12:23]
clients complete an application and then
[12:26]
they complete a questionnaire in their
[12:28]
own words like what are what kind of
[12:29]
housemate they're looking for, a little
[12:31]
bit about their lifestyle, um, about the
[12:34]
space that they're offering. And then,
[12:36]
um, we require our home seekers to
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provide us with proof of income. We
[12:40]
don't require that of our home
[12:42]
providers, but we do of our home
[12:44]
seekers. Um, we also require um we do a
[12:47]
criminal background check. So, we do a
[12:49]
local county background search and a
[12:52]
national sex offender database check.
[12:54]
Um, and so we also ask clients to sign a
[12:57]
program agreement and waiver. So, the
[12:59]
screening is very similar for both
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clients except the only difference is
[13:03]
that we don't ask home providers for
[13:05]
their income information.
[13:07]
>> That's that's really helpful to know.
[13:09]
Any additional questions for my
[13:10]
colleagues?
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>> Just to say thank you and
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congratulations
[13:14]
>> and congratulations Madlin. Um
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>> I'm so impressed with the detail.
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>> Um I think we should take a photo with
[13:21]
Meline. She would love to post that in
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her room, I'm sure.
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>> Great. Thank you.
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>> Yes. And
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>> yes. Yes.
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Thank you,
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>> Laura. Thank you so much. Thank you for
[14:33]
your work.
[14:53]
Byebye.
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Okay. The next item on our agenda will
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be presented by city manager Doug Davis,
[15:00]
which is town update.
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>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh, this will be
[15:04]
a familiar slide from a while ago, but
[15:06]
this is our ADU slide, and this is just
[15:08]
a culmination of the three years. And in
[15:10]
April when we'll do a report out on
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ADUs, uh you'll see this again and also
[15:16]
the uh the HCD website will be updated
[15:19]
with our numbers for 2025. If you
[15:21]
remember early on, our goal was to hit
[15:23]
50 a year and uh we are exactly at at 50
[15:27]
a year if you average that out. So well
[15:29]
done Tim and Liz for streamlining the
[15:32]
process and getting that done. So we'll
[15:34]
keep updating you that as the April
[15:36]
meeting approaches. Also on January
[15:38]
14th, uh Senator Becker is having a uh
[15:42]
it's it's called the senior scam stopper
[15:44]
seminar, but I recently was in a
[15:45]
conversation with a senator and a couple
[15:47]
other people. And actually, a lot of
[15:48]
these things are maybe things we could
[15:50]
all benefit from uh that uh for stopping
[15:53]
these type of online scams as well as
[15:55]
phone calls. Uh and that'll be held on
[15:58]
Janu or Thursday, January 15th from 9:00
[16:00]
a.m. to 11:00. And that's over at the
[16:02]
Redwood City Public Library. And there's
[16:05]
some additional information on uh
[16:07]
Senator Becker's website if you'd like
[16:08]
to go check that. Also, through the end
[16:11]
of the month, uh we'll be having tree
[16:13]
pickup. Just a reminder that you need to
[16:16]
take all the decorations off the tree uh
[16:18]
before you put it out in in front of
[16:20]
there. I did get a question about uh I
[16:23]
believe it's called flocking on trees
[16:26]
and whether they could be put out or
[16:27]
not. I didn't have an answer, so I put
[16:29]
in a phone call and I will figure out
[16:31]
what that is and and give them a call
[16:33]
back. Uh, and Meline, although she's
[16:36]
left here, I think she's getting used to
[16:37]
photo shoots now because she was also
[16:40]
our annual contest winner uh for uh
[16:43]
Rethink Waste. And uh and that is her uh
[16:47]
picture that's prominently displayed on
[16:48]
one of the pickup trucks there.
[16:50]
>> And uh that'll be moving through our
[16:52]
town. Are they still here?
[16:56]
>> Right there. Look up.
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>> There's your truck.
[17:00]
>> Alan's like, "That's old hat." you know,
[17:03]
she goes to restaurants now. People are
[17:05]
asking her for autographs.
[17:07]
>> Our artist laurate. Yes.
[17:11]
>> And we're having the uh C basic class
[17:13]
February 3rd through the 28th uh uh this
[17:16]
year. And and that's for Berlingame,
[17:18]
Milbury, and Hillsboro residents
[17:20]
together. If you want more information,
[17:22]
you can go on the CCFD website or ask
[17:24]
anybody in H&N about it as well. Uh this
[17:28]
is sort of the entry into the first
[17:30]
being a community emergency response
[17:32]
team member. Um and uh it's a good entry
[17:35]
point for just starting out. Uh and the
[17:38]
more cert members we have, as we always
[17:40]
say, they're our biggest help as a force
[17:42]
multiplier should we ever have an
[17:43]
emergency here in town.
[17:47]
We're going to have the H&N first
[17:49]
quarter information session coming up.
[17:51]
That'll be on February 11th from 6:30 to
[17:53]
8:00 p.m. That's right here in the
[17:55]
council chambers. And one of the guest
[17:56]
speakers will be Heather Vandenberg.
[17:58]
She's going to talk about her
[17:59]
experiences
[18:01]
uh down with the Palisades fire and it's
[18:03]
a pretty harrowing story of her sort of
[18:05]
evacuation and all the things that went
[18:07]
on uh during that time as well as her
[18:09]
relocation and sort of lessons learned.
[18:11]
So it's a a one year later look back at
[18:13]
that process and if you've never heard
[18:14]
her story, it's it's pretty impressive.
[18:17]
Uh again, that's February 11th here at
[18:19]
the council chambers on the El Camino
[18:22]
reality. You're going to notice a lot of
[18:23]
uh work going on uh particularly uh
[18:25]
right here in the Hillsboro Sanonteo
[18:27]
Milbury area as they're doing their uh
[18:30]
renewal project. Uh the work is going to
[18:33]
be going on during the weekdays and uh
[18:35]
during the daytime at this time right
[18:37]
now that you know we may see some
[18:39]
changes on that depending on what work
[18:40]
needs to be done. Uh traffic is being
[18:43]
relocated uh through Berlingame and
[18:46]
Sanonteo. Uh we are trying to keep the
[18:49]
re the redirection of traffic through
[18:51]
Hillsboro as as low as possible. And I
[18:53]
appreciate Paul Willis over there at
[18:55]
public works who's been working pretty
[18:57]
closely with uh CALR on making sure that
[18:59]
we don't get our roadways flooded with
[19:01]
motorists uh coming down to El Camino.
[19:05]
Also on the tartan trail thing, this has
[19:07]
been a topic a few times at past council
[19:09]
meetings, but on November 10th, we
[19:11]
awarded a design build contract to Power
[19:13]
Engineering Construction Company. They
[19:15]
are going to start work immediately on
[19:18]
uh repairing this portion of the roadway
[19:20]
uh down at Tartan Trail and Crystal
[19:22]
Springs Road. This was a a decision made
[19:25]
by the city council that uh the public
[19:27]
safety is at the paramount here. So,
[19:29]
we're going to start roadway work on it
[19:31]
uh as soon as we can. There may be some
[19:34]
funds that are recovered as a result of
[19:36]
uh later on looking at all the
[19:38]
responsible parties being involved and
[19:40]
who should pay what their share of that
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is. But I think in the meantime, public
[19:44]
safety wins out over everything else and
[19:46]
we're going to be repairing it as soon
[19:47]
as possible.
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On the website, if you go to current
[19:51]
town projects, uh that's been on there
[19:54]
for a while, but if you've never taken a
[19:55]
look at it, this is a great place. And
[19:57]
as you can see, the Tartan Trail
[19:58]
emergency road repair is put on there.
[20:00]
uh or as well as any other projects that
[20:02]
we have going on in town. So, if you
[20:03]
ever see something and you're kind of
[20:05]
interested in in knowing what's going on
[20:08]
there or what type of city project that
[20:09]
is, this is a great place to go and kind
[20:11]
of get that information off of our
[20:13]
website.
[20:14]
These are some upcoming
[20:17]
meetings that are coming and these are
[20:18]
always tentative and we post them, but
[20:19]
these are our plans coming in the next
[20:21]
few months as far as things we're going
[20:22]
to bring back to the city council. Uh
[20:24]
particular interest will be our water
[20:26]
rates coming up in February and March.
[20:28]
Um, and any questions from that, you can
[20:30]
direct them to the to my office at the
[20:32]
city manager. And then finally, our
[20:35]
slide that we always end on is all the
[20:36]
notification processes that we have. As
[20:38]
we always say, uh, SMC alert is your
[20:41]
lowest entry point. Everybody should
[20:43]
have that on their phone. And then from
[20:44]
there, it's a matter of just picking
[20:45]
what works best for you. Uh, and as I
[20:48]
always say, Nixel is probably one of the
[20:50]
easiest uh, ones to use and allows you
[20:53]
to get uh, sort of the baseline
[20:55]
information. And then of course if you
[20:57]
have any other uh interest in in my
[21:00]
shake watch duty and also uh Genesis as
[21:03]
far as evacuation zones those are good
[21:05]
to have. But again if you just were
[21:07]
going to pick one of these I would say
[21:08]
SMC alert is the one to have and uh for
[21:11]
a low entry point of just wanting basic
[21:13]
information is a very userfriendly
[21:16]
platform. Thank you ma'am.
[21:19]
>> Thank you city manager Davis.
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The next item on
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>> May I make a comment? Yeah, sure.
[21:25]
>> Uh I I just want to highlight that the
[21:28]
uh Hillsboro CA mobile app is really
[21:31]
user friendly and it's visually
[21:34]
attractive. So I do encourage everyone
[21:36]
to use it and get your information,
[21:40]
phone numbers, emails, and all the most
[21:43]
current update. And I just, you know,
[21:45]
did the flash news and it does reflect
[21:48]
it right away on the Tardan trails
[21:50]
project. So fantastic.
[21:53]
I'm sorry. What is that app again?
[21:55]
>> Hillsboro
[21:57]
CA mobile app.
[22:01]
>> Okay. So, will that be added to our uh
[22:04]
list of apps? Is it going to be on the
[22:07]
Nixel or is it a separate app?
[22:10]
>> It's a it's an app that you have to
[22:11]
download
[22:12]
>> separate from Nixel. Okay.
[22:13]
>> Can we also go back two slides just to
[22:16]
the goal setting day? Mhm.
[22:21]
» Um, go back two slides.
[22:31]
» Um, the one right before this. Oh, no.
[22:34]
This one. Uh, annual. No, I'm sorry. It
[22:37]
was It says annual goal setting. I want
[22:39]
to make sure everybody knows that
[22:40]
January 23rd is a Friday.
[22:47]
Oh, it's not a Monday.
[22:49]
It's February. It's supposed to be
[22:51]
February 23rd.
[22:51]
>> February 23rd. Okay. I was having a
[22:54]
slight heart palpitation there when I
[22:56]
thought, is it January or February?
[22:58]
>> I I was too. I went to my Okay, so
[23:00]
>> that was my fault.
[23:01]
>> My correct.
[23:03]
>> It's February.
[23:05]
>> February.
[23:06]
>> What? Great pickup.
[23:08]
>> Yes. Great pick up, Council Member
[23:10]
Adams. Thank you.
[23:10]
>> Thank you.
[23:21]
I ma'am, I'm so sorry. We're going to
[23:24]
have in just a moment the mayor here is
[23:26]
going to call for public comment and
[23:28]
that would be the perfect time. Just
[23:30]
give it just a moment.
[23:31]
>> Yes. And she you could just stay there
[23:33]
because um she could go next because I
[23:36]
will be focusing on items that are not
[23:37]
on the agenda. So go ahead and ask your
[23:40]
question. Yes. My question is on Tatum
[23:42]
Trail at the bottom of the road. That's
[23:45]
always been construction for the past
[23:47]
few years. No, I mean no construction.
[23:49]
It's just coned off. What's going on
[23:52]
there?
[23:54]
And now there are some stop signs, but
[23:57]
still nobody's working on that area, but
[24:00]
it has been coned off for at least three
[24:02]
years.
[24:04]
>> Yeah. at that bottom area there. There's
[24:06]
always been stop signs there, but you
[24:08]
may have noticed they're moved due to
[24:09]
some of the road codes that are there in
[24:11]
there as well. That's what I was just
[24:13]
talking about on that previous slide
[24:14]
where we've just awarded a contract, so
[24:16]
work should be starting there.
[24:18]
>> What's wrong with that part of the road?
[24:20]
>> The there's some uh I don't know all the
[24:22]
details about what's wrong with it. I
[24:24]
know there's some structural problems
[24:26]
underneath the roadway right at that
[24:28]
area. There's a creek that runs under
[24:29]
there, right? And that's uh been a
[24:31]
concern. The area that's coned off so
[24:33]
that cars can't go over it is the area
[24:35]
of concern. The rest of the roadway is
[24:37]
safe, but it sort of narrows the roadway
[24:39]
and our roads are already narrow, so
[24:41]
that's why we're going to get it fixed.
[24:42]
>> All right. Thank you.
[24:43]
>> You're welcome.
[24:44]
>> Yeah.
[24:45]
>> Thank you. Thanks for that
[24:46]
clarification. Okay. So, the next uh
[24:49]
public comment um is items that are not
[24:52]
on the agenda. Do we have any um anyone
[24:54]
in the public who wishes to make a
[24:57]
comment on items not on the agenda?
[24:59]
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I don't have any
[25:01]
speaker cards in chambers, but I'll give
[25:03]
it a moment on Zoom if anyone would like
[25:06]
to make a comment on an item that's not
[25:08]
on the agenda.
[25:11]
» We'll give it a minute.
[25:16]
» Thank you. I'm I'm not seeing see.
[25:20]
>> Okay.
[25:21]
Seeing none,
[25:23]
>> um we will now um close public comment
[25:27]
on items not on the agenda and we will
[25:29]
move on to um announcements of conflict
[25:31]
of interest from the council from the
[25:33]
chambers. Any um conflict of interest
[25:35]
from any of the council members on items
[25:39]
um on the on the consent calendar
[25:43]
or on the agenda?
[25:47]
» None. See not. Okay. Um,
[25:52]
for item four, resolution authorizing
[25:54]
compensation and benefits adjustments
[25:56]
for unrepresented employees. The Brown
[25:58]
Act requires a verbal report of the
[26:00]
recommendations for final action on the
[26:02]
salary or compensation paid in the form
[26:05]
of fringe benefits of a local agency
[26:07]
executive during the open meeting in
[26:10]
which the final action is to take place
[26:11]
which includes the department head
[26:13]
positions and in the unrepresented
[26:15]
group. The salary adjustments included
[26:18]
4% cost of living increase for the
[26:20]
assistant city manager, chief of police,
[26:22]
director of finance, director of
[26:23]
building and planning, and director of
[26:26]
public works. And I will
[26:29]
now discuss the um new annual salaries.
[26:33]
Assistant city manager $242,247.80.
[26:39]
Chief of Police 273,292
[26:43]
um uh dollars47
[26:46]
Director of Building and Planning
[26:48]
266,4287
[26:53]
Director of Finance 266,4287
[27:00]
and director of public works 284,3134.
[27:05]
The city manager salary will be
[27:06]
evaluated in the upcoming months in
[27:08]
conjunction with this performance
[27:10]
appraisal.
[27:11]
Would any of my colleagues like to
[27:13]
remove any um items from the consent
[27:16]
calendar?
[27:17]
>> I just have a comment on item seven.
[27:21]
>> I would like to remove item six and I
[27:25]
have a question on item eight.
[27:30]
» Any other items to be removed or noted?
[27:36]
Okay. Um, so let's move forward and vote
[27:41]
on the items that are not removed. Uh,
[27:45]
any other items to be removed?
[27:46]
>> I I don't need to remove seven. I just
[27:48]
have a comment on it.
[27:49]
>> Okay, go ahead.
[27:50]
>> I just wanted to um introduce Matt Ken
[27:53]
is in the um audience here. He is the
[27:56]
member who has been our current um
[27:59]
alternate on the ADRB and um is proposed
[28:02]
tonight to step up to the uh seat that's
[28:05]
been ve vacated by long-erving well
[28:08]
esteemed member Kathleen Egan. So I want
[28:10]
to welcome Matt.
[28:12]
>> Welcome Matt and thank you.
[28:21]
Okay, we will then um before we comment,
[28:25]
we have two other items, six and eight,
[28:27]
that have been removed for further
[28:28]
discussion, but can we move forward and
[28:30]
vote on the
[28:34]
>> um
[28:35]
>> Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Eight is a question.
[28:37]
Um you can go ahead and
[28:39]
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh on eight in
[28:42]
the project schedule and timeline in
[28:45]
phase one uh it mentions that town staff
[28:50]
provides feedback on the poll draft and
[28:55]
then it says the poll is finalized and
[28:58]
approved by town staff and city
[29:02]
attorney. So my question is, is there a
[29:06]
role for the council in looking at those
[29:10]
drafts as you envision it?
[29:16]
» Thank you. Um
[29:18]
that's how it was written in terms of
[29:21]
involving council. Uh we would staff
[29:24]
would be working with either a subset of
[29:27]
council just to make sure that we're
[29:28]
getting input. And I do have uh Brian
[29:31]
Godby who's one of the consultants that
[29:33]
has worked with many other jurisdictions
[29:35]
and and uh he was able to provide some
[29:37]
examples on how they've done it in other
[29:39]
jurisdictions. If if you would like
[29:41]
Brian to speak to this question.
[29:46]
» No, I I think that's that's helpful that
[29:48]
you had that concept. So Okay. Thank
[29:50]
you.
[29:50]
>> Okay. All right. Thanks, Brian.
[29:52]
>> Um um I have a follow-up clarification
[29:54]
on item eight. This is specifically for
[29:58]
um the research that will relate to
[30:02]
finance. Correct. So so will they be
[30:05]
meeting with the finance advisory
[30:07]
committee?
[30:08]
>> Yes, I would imagine they'd be working
[30:10]
with various bodies of council and uh
[30:13]
FAC uh to get input. But this is for the
[30:16]
potential revenue measure um that was
[30:19]
discussed during the long-term financial
[30:21]
uh funding strategy. Um, and so we have
[30:23]
it's a joint proposal with team civics
[30:26]
and Godby research to do the both the
[30:28]
survey work and the communications to
[30:30]
support any outreach related to a
[30:32]
potential revenue measure.
[30:34]
>> Council, I'm sorry, let let me just
[30:36]
finish my follow-up question. Um,
[30:38]
Council Member Krik is the um,
[30:41]
commissioner on the finance advisory
[30:43]
committee and I have been sitting in on
[30:45]
some of those meetings. But just for
[30:48]
clarification from council member Adams,
[30:50]
are you asking for the entire council to
[30:53]
review the specifics in terms of the
[30:56]
polling before they move forward? Is
[30:58]
that what you would like to see?
[30:59]
>> Well, my question is based in two
[31:01]
things. one, I think we will receive a
[31:04]
lot of questions about this and we
[31:07]
should know about it before it goes out,
[31:10]
but in thinking about it, if we're all
[31:13]
involved, it will be a public document
[31:16]
and that could in fact influence how the
[31:20]
results come in. So I think it's a
[31:22]
tricky balance but my question was
[31:25]
answered I think adequately that there
[31:26]
will be either a subcommittee or a way
[31:29]
of dealing with input from the council
[31:32]
and input from the facus. So that's fine with me
[31:36]
>> and the may regardless of whether or not
[31:39]
the council members are in that giving
[31:41]
that direct input council members all
[31:43]
council members will be briefed um
[31:44]
throughout the project so given regular
[31:46]
project updates
[31:49]
>> um through the mayor. Yes, council
[31:52]
member strong.
[31:53]
>> I I'll say this. Uh polling is a a
[31:57]
specific science and usually there are
[31:59]
language that when they pull there are
[32:01]
specific language that is going to go to
[32:03]
the measure ballot ballot measures that
[32:06]
is going to be reflecting that is the same language that will be going
[32:10]
out. Since Brian is on the on the Zoom
[32:13]
already, how about if we just have him
[32:15]
walk us through briefly as to what are
[32:19]
the process so that it gives us some
[32:22]
clarity?
[32:24]
>> Well, I think um that's a very good
[32:25]
point. I think what would be helpful
[32:27]
from Mr. from Mr. Godby would be um
[32:31]
would do you think it would be
[32:32]
appropriate or necessary or useful for
[32:35]
the entire council to see
[32:38]
I mean we clearly cannot discuss what
[32:39]
you're going to pull because that would
[32:41]
affect your outcome in terms of
[32:43]
>> the scientific basis of your conclusion.
[32:46]
So is there specific um information you
[32:48]
would like from the council before you
[32:51]
exercise the questioning for your
[32:52]
polling? What if you could comment on
[32:54]
that?
[32:55]
>> Uh yeah certainly. Uh thank you, Madame
[32:57]
Mayor, members of the council. Uh I'm
[32:59]
Brian Godby from Godby Research. Uh our
[33:02]
best practice is is to uh solicit and
[33:05]
welcome in input on the front end of
[33:09]
drafting the questionnaire. And so
[33:10]
whether that is an ad hoc uh committee
[33:13]
of the council or your finance
[33:15]
committee, obviously staff plays a huge
[33:17]
role in that. Um but also sometimes we
[33:20]
do uh interview individual staff members
[33:23]
if they're not on one of those
[33:25]
committees. Um but the [clears throat]
[33:27]
idea is to get information in that helps
[33:30]
in the drafting. But we don't want to
[33:32]
take a doc a final document or a close
[33:35]
to final document to a public meeting
[33:37]
because as you've all kind of alluded to
[33:39]
that biases the survey. [clears throat]
[33:41]
You have a whole bunch of people who
[33:43]
wind up being uh prompted by what's in
[33:47]
the survey. they prompt their friends
[33:48]
for answers and it and we can't track
[33:51]
that. So, we want to try to avoid that
[33:53]
because we don't know what that bias
[33:55]
might introduce. Uh but we certainly
[33:58]
welcome input from uh the council
[34:01]
members on the front end in whatever
[34:02]
fashion uh is customary.
[34:05]
>> Okay. All right. That's helpful. Is that
[34:08]
sufficient council member Adams? Okay.
[34:09]
Great. So, items seven and eight were
[34:12]
questions clarified. Um so, we can
[34:15]
proceed. Item six is being pulled for
[34:17]
further discussion. Is that correct? And
[34:19]
I'm sorry, who pulled that again?
[34:22]
>> Okay, items. So, could we move forward
[34:24]
and approve everything except item six?
[34:27]
So, um for items 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10. So
[34:34]
moved.
[34:35]
>> Second.
[34:37]
>> May we have the roll call, please?
[34:39]
>> Adams. Yes. Trunk.
[34:42]
>> I kic.
[34:43]
>> Bragg. I call
[34:46]
>> I
[34:47]
>> Okay, we'll move forward to discuss item
[34:49]
six, resolution adopting the town of
[34:51]
Hillsboro legislative platform
[34:57]
» and council member Adams, you may start
[34:59]
the conversation.
[35:02]
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh, I pulled
[35:04]
this just to uh actually expand one of
[35:09]
the additions and uh this is for the
[35:14]
environment item number uh E, the new E
[35:19]
in the environment. It's on page 52 in
[35:22]
our documents and it's on page three of
[35:25]
this uh document. And what it does is it
[35:30]
takes exactly what was written and it
[35:32]
expands it slightly so that we're also
[35:35]
looking for not just uh as it is
[35:40]
currently written is uh facilitates uh
[35:43]
polluters pay for consequences. It
[35:46]
actually talks about the possibility
[35:48]
that there could be legislation or
[35:50]
policies that provide incentives
[35:54]
as well as disincentives. And I think
[35:57]
that's a a broader way of looking at
[35:59]
this issue particularly in the
[36:00]
environment. And I think all it does is
[36:03]
expand the possibilities of things that
[36:05]
we could that could be brought to our
[36:07]
attention.
[36:09]
Um uh were you um recommending
[36:15]
um a an amendment to the letter that
[36:20]
I'm not sure exactly will you sub
[36:22]
submitting this as an amendment? It's
[36:23]
not clear to me. So there is a
[36:26]
redlinined version of this and it adds
[36:30]
the words support legislation that
[36:32]
requires or facilitates polluters to pay
[36:35]
for the consequences of environmental
[36:38]
damage. And I am suggesting we change
[36:40]
that to support legislation and policies
[36:43]
that provide incentives to and
[36:46]
disincentives against protecting the
[36:49]
environment from pollution, including
[36:51]
holding polluters accountable for
[36:53]
environmental damage they may cause.
[36:57]
>> Yeah, sure. That sounds great. Um, any
[37:00]
other comments along those lines? Uh,
[37:02]
>> I'm I'm in strong support of that and appreciate the the thoughts there.
[37:07]
Thank you.
[37:08]
If that's a motion, I would second that
[37:10]
motion.
[37:11]
>> Okay. All in favor of that.
[37:14]
>> Mayor Co.
[37:15]
>> And one Wait, I'm sorry.
[37:16]
>> Before you take the vote, I just want to
[37:17]
make sure since you've discussed this
[37:18]
item that we don't have any public
[37:19]
comment related to it.
[37:21]
>> Oh, yes. Any public comments on this
[37:24]
specific um on page 52 under environment
[37:28]
item E. Anything from the public?
[37:33]
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole.
[37:35]
I'll just wait for a moment to see if
[37:36]
there's anyone who has any comments on
[37:38]
Zoom. I don't see any raised hands.
[37:42]
Thank you.
[37:43]
>> Okay. Any further comments from the
[37:45]
council?
[37:46]
>> While we're at it, we should probably
[37:47]
fix the typo under C policies.
[37:56]
» Oh, thank you.
[37:58]
>> Policies, not policies. Okay. Amendos.
[38:02]
Got it. Okay. Um any further comments
[38:05]
from the council? Seeing none, we will
[38:07]
do we have a motion for um to approve
[38:09]
item six on the consent calendar.
[38:13]
>> So move.
[38:15]
>> Do we have a second?
[38:17]
>> Second.
[38:19]
>> All those in favor say I.
[38:20]
>> I.
[38:21]
I.
[38:22]
>> I. Okay.
[38:24]
Carry. Five to zero. Thank you.
[38:26]
>> Thank you.
[38:32]
The next item on our agenda is
[38:34]
considered old business
[38:35]
telecommunications updates to discuss
[38:37]
and provide direction on the scope of
[38:39]
projects based on community feedback which will
[38:42]
be presented by assistant city manager
[38:45]
Mandy Brown.
[38:48]
» Thank you, Mayor Cole. Um, so I will
[38:51]
just be providing a brief overview of
[38:54]
really a lot of information that we've
[38:56]
received from residents via community
[38:59]
meetings, email, um, and our goal
[39:02]
tonight is to really get consensus
[39:05]
around are these the correct needs? um
[39:08]
getting direction from the council,
[39:10]
making sure that we're on the right
[39:11]
track with the goal of using this to
[39:14]
create a RFP to get subject matter
[39:18]
experts, one or multiple, to create a
[39:21]
path forward and solutions. So, making
[39:24]
sure that we have the right buckets for
[39:26]
discussion and that we're not missing
[39:28]
anything or we don't want anything
[39:30]
reframed. Are we off the mark? um so
[39:33]
that we can create a very clear uh list
[39:36]
of needs for a subject matter expert to
[39:38]
develop solutions for the town
[39:40]
customized for Hillsboro. Um so I'll
[39:43]
just go through a brief
[39:48]
very brief background um about the sort
[39:51]
of wireless goal. it has been um on our
[39:54]
goal setting uh sessions uh for several
[39:58]
years. Um and so really looking to
[40:00]
define that goal statement. What are we
[40:03]
trying to achieve? Um we can will
[40:05]
continue to discuss this topic at goal
[40:07]
setting as it relates to the budget. um
[40:10]
as we get a sense of what is the project
[40:12]
that we're undertaking, what sort of
[40:14]
resources do we need to allocate and a
[40:16]
timeline so that the council and uh the
[40:19]
public know uh what to be able to expect
[40:23]
in terms of work product output. Uh when
[40:26]
is something going to going to happen um
[40:28]
that's tangible.
[40:31]
Uh we did have a community meeting in
[40:33]
October to really restart this
[40:35]
conversation, start fresh and talk about
[40:38]
goals for telecommunications in Hillsbor
[40:40]
really in a broad level and hear about
[40:42]
residents experiences.
[40:45]
Uh there is in a summary of that meeting
[40:48]
uh prepared by Peninsula Conflict
[40:50]
Resource Center which uh provided
[40:52]
facilitators for the meeting to make
[40:54]
sure that we captured all of the small
[40:56]
group discussions um and comments made.
[41:00]
This is a very high level. There's a lot
[41:02]
more detail in the report in attachment
[41:03]
one, but I just wanted to make sure we
[41:05]
captured some of the biggest buckets
[41:07]
related to undergrounding wires, um,
[41:10]
locating towers away from homes, making
[41:13]
sure that everyone everyone has reliable
[41:15]
connectivity. Uh, making sure there's
[41:18]
emergency power, eliminating macro
[41:21]
towers, and exploring cost-effective
[41:23]
solutions for carriers, as well as
[41:26]
maintaining a consistent strong signal
[41:28]
uh, even during power outages.
[41:33]
So the meeting objective um I said at
[41:36]
the beginning of the meeting is really
[41:37]
to re review these draft needs. So I'll
[41:40]
just go through them briefly um and
[41:42]
offer some additional uh color and the
[41:45]
PowerPoint was an attachment in the in
[41:47]
the uh staff report just so everybody
[41:49]
got a chance to see it beforehand and
[41:51]
really just looking to see to affirm the
[41:53]
scope and discuss any prioritization um
[41:56]
if if there are uh comments about that.
[42:01]
So these [clears throat] are the six
[42:03]
buckets that are listed in the staff
[42:04]
report drawing from that community
[42:07]
meeting as well as other feedback
[42:09]
received. And I'll just go through them
[42:10]
one at a time with the first one being
[42:12]
uh utilities undergrounding. Um,
[42:15]
currently this was identified as a goal
[42:17]
during last year's goal setting session
[42:20]
and so staff has been working with an
[42:22]
engineering consultant to really
[42:24]
understand what amount of utilities
[42:27]
remain needed to be undergrounded in
[42:29]
town and what would the total cost be to
[42:31]
underground the remaining utilities in
[42:34]
town. Um, the project is ongoing so I
[42:37]
don't have a final report right now.
[42:38]
They're still collecting data. Um, we're
[42:40]
actually waiting for some PG& data. Um,
[42:43]
but once we have all of that data, we'll
[42:45]
be able to present that back. But
[42:46]
currently, it's looking like the
[42:48]
percentage of homes with underground
[42:50]
utilities is around 70%. And I do have a draft map. Um, so we will be refining
[42:56]
this with the green um showing the areas
[42:59]
in town that are that are underground
[43:01]
for homes. Um, like I said, it's still
[43:03]
in progress. So, we will have a final
[43:05]
report to deliver, but this is just a
[43:07]
progress update of where we are um on
[43:09]
this topic currently.
[43:13]
fiber connectivity was another area of
[43:15]
need that we heard at the community
[43:17]
meeting. Um and so really to identify
[43:20]
and affirm that need. Um there are maps
[43:23]
available uh through uh the FCC. Um and
[43:26]
at the third bullet point that
[43:28]
broadbandmap.fcc.govhome
[43:31]
you can plug in the town of Hillsboro
[43:33]
and you can plug in your specific
[43:35]
address um to see if you're covered by
[43:38]
fiber. Um there's different speeds and
[43:41]
so we used the state standard. Um and as
[43:44]
of right now the latest FCC map shows
[43:46]
that there are approximately 1,600 units
[43:49]
covered or about 41%. Um and if you feel
[43:52]
like there's an error like it says that
[43:55]
you're covered by fiber but you're not
[43:56]
actually, you can report that um on that
[43:59]
same map. Um so just affirming that
[44:01]
there are areas um areas that have
[44:05]
access to fiber and then there are
[44:06]
geographic areas that have that don't
[44:09]
have access to fiber. So one of the
[44:11]
goals being equity and access um that
[44:14]
that's not that is not achieved as it
[44:17]
relates to fiber currently. So it is a
[44:20]
possible area of need to include in that
[44:22]
study. And on the map you can zoom in a
[44:25]
lot more. I just took a highle
[44:26]
screenshot um for you to be able to see.
[44:31]
The next area of needs is cellular
[44:33]
service. So recognizing the deficiencies
[44:35]
in cellular service within throughout
[44:38]
town. There is also a cellular service
[44:40]
coverage map through that FCC database.
[44:43]
Um and they are required to report the
[44:45]
data twice a year. Um and the map shows
[44:49]
83.45%
[44:50]
of town covered for 5G service. um where
[44:54]
there are but you'll also see there are
[44:55]
areas that have very poor service. Uh
[44:58]
however, there is a a disclaimer saying
[45:01]
that it is based on the propagation
[45:03]
modeling and a user's actual experience
[45:06]
may be different. So I would say it's
[45:09]
likely that that's very generous um in
[45:11]
terms of your real access to cell
[45:13]
service. Um but it's a starting point.
[45:15]
Um and I think we heard strongly from
[45:17]
the community anecdotally that u this is
[45:20]
a strong area of need uh in the town
[45:23]
making sure that there are we fix the
[45:25]
deficiencies in cell service.
[45:28]
Again here's that uh screenshot showing
[45:30]
sort of dead spots in town and it really
[45:33]
is just sort of a percentage within
[45:35]
those um hexagons. And then you can
[45:38]
again zoom in closer um plug in your
[45:40]
address, plug in your school and see the
[45:42]
access um as it relates to 5G wireless
[45:45]
service.
[45:49]
Uh next one is power backup solutions um
[45:52]
and make so in addition to the actual
[45:55]
fiber or wireless service making sure
[45:57]
that there's a reliable power supply. Uh
[46:00]
while the town is not responsible for
[46:02]
providing the actual we don't have our
[46:04]
electric utility um there are solutions
[46:07]
that the town could explore um as this
[46:09]
is identified as a need to help support
[46:11]
residents to obtain the battery backup
[46:13]
solutions looking at grant funded
[46:15]
programs public education ways to
[46:18]
connect residents to ensure that they
[46:19]
have access to backup solutions.
[46:25]
And then this is about balancing town
[46:27]
aesthetics with any wireless
[46:29]
communication facility installations. We
[46:31]
do have existing policies and
[46:33]
regulations related that kind of govern
[46:35]
the installation of wireless
[46:37]
telecommunications. Um we could explore
[46:39]
modifications to these documents. Um
[46:42]
modifications may result in reduced
[46:45]
control. Um and on that sort of same
[46:47]
notion, um currently the town's part of
[46:50]
a national coalition opposing FCC
[46:53]
proceedings that are seeking to reduce
[46:55]
that local authority as it relates to
[46:57]
wireless um and wired uh installation
[47:00]
facilities installation. Uh we've joined
[47:03]
those coalitions through um our city
[47:05]
attorney BBNK uh to demonstrate our
[47:08]
opposition to those efforts and we're
[47:10]
joined with many other jurisdictions um
[47:13]
that have had similar experiences to
[47:15]
ours. we've been able to share our
[47:16]
experiences
[47:18]
um and sort of fight some of these
[47:20]
claims um that are we feel exaggerated.
[47:23]
And I do have we do have Gail Carish um
[47:26]
partner with BBK who has helped lead
[47:28]
some of these efforts and can speak to
[47:30]
um to this topic a lot better than I can
[47:33]
um if there are follow-up questions.
[47:37]
And the last one we heard is we heard um
[47:39]
some explore alternative technologies to
[47:41]
improve connectivity. Um this is
[47:44]
anything from new wireless providers to
[47:47]
satellite. Um and we did we have heard
[47:51]
um that sort of the main providers of
[47:53]
Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile have been
[47:56]
deploying satellite. Um it's in a growth
[47:59]
stage. Um from what we've heard it
[48:01]
requires a large number of satellites to
[48:03]
be in orbit orbit and uh latency is
[48:06]
another issue but it is something that
[48:08]
uh we could include in the needs
[48:09]
assessment. Again, looking at these
[48:11]
buckets, affirming these are all areas
[48:13]
of needs um and asking a subject matter
[48:15]
expert to to develop those solutions.
[48:18]
And so, keeping this uh as a as a
[48:20]
possible option um to come back with
[48:23]
some ideas.
[48:26]
So, those are the six buckets that are
[48:27]
listed um in the the uh staff report.
[48:32]
And so, what we would be looking for
[48:34]
council direction is are these the right
[48:37]
areas of need? Are there specific are
[48:39]
there follow-up information that you
[48:41]
need before being able to um identify
[48:44]
them as an area I need? We can modify
[48:46]
them. Um and what we'd like to do is is
[48:49]
get that nailed down so that we can
[48:50]
issue the RFP to get to um begin that
[48:53]
work and that sort of master plan for
[48:55]
the town moving forward. Um so that we
[48:58]
can understand the time frame cost and
[49:01]
the compatibility with the town's
[49:02]
existing infrastructure and landscape.
[49:05]
Um, and in the background of all that,
[49:06]
we'll continue to have legal and
[49:08]
regulatory issues monitored, um, and
[49:11]
update the council and the community
[49:12]
with any, uh, new information as it
[49:15]
arises.
[49:18]
» Um, thank you, um, Mandy Brown. Um, that
[49:22]
was, uh, this is a very, um, not only
[49:25]
urgent but needed conversation. we
[49:28]
continue to discuss this but um I will
[49:30]
start by asking my um council members if
[49:34]
they have my colleagues if they have any
[49:36]
additional questions for clarifications
[49:38]
and then we'll get into a discussion. So
[49:40]
we'll just start with some clarifying
[49:41]
questions.
[49:44]
Okay, Vice Mayor Rexdale,
[49:47]
>> thank you. Thank you for the uh summary
[49:50]
and the and the detailed staff report.
[49:52]
Mandy. Um I had my questions are very
[49:56]
basic and they will show my ignorance on
[49:58]
and age on this topic. Um the first is
[50:02]
um fiber. Uh okay, two questions about
[50:07]
fiber. One, I presume there's some I
[50:10]
know it's not in our control, but
[50:11]
there's some areas that will probably
[50:14]
never get fiber because
[50:17]
of the topography.
[50:20]
Is that
[50:22]
not necessarily the case? Okay. Okay. So
[50:25]
that so that's a question that I would
[50:27]
have I guess for um going forward uh the
[50:32]
possibilities for fiber and then what
[50:34]
can fiber do? Can you get cell service
[50:38]
through you if you're getting your
[50:41]
internet can you get cell service
[50:43]
through through the fiber or can you
[50:46]
only do that through towers?
[50:49]
Um
[50:50]
then um I wanted to clarify just based
[50:54]
on a public comment that we received
[50:57]
that there are not any applications
[51:00]
right now for cell towers. Is that
[51:04]
correct to come into Hillsboro
[51:08]
>> currently? No, we do not have
[51:10]
applications. I I we got a detailed
[51:12]
public comment that talked about a tower
[51:15]
near a school and they were probably
[51:17]
talking about past applications. Um so I
[51:20]
just wanted to clarify that. Um another
[51:23]
thing I'd like to see
[51:26]
um well I guess that's a comment so I
[51:29]
won't won't ask that. Um oh
[51:33]
uh latency for satellite does that mean
[51:36]
delay? Okay. Um, those are my questions
[51:40]
at the time. Thank you.
[51:41]
>> Any additional question?
[51:42]
>> All showing ignorance.
[51:44]
>> Um, no additional questions. We we'll
[51:47]
move to the
[51:47]
>> I'm sorry. Um, council member Bwang
[51:50]
additional questions.
[51:51]
>> Uh, just for clarifications. Um on the
[51:54]
fibers map, the the large one, there's
[51:58]
um there are the the the large white uh
[52:03]
oxyagon that really basically saying
[52:07]
that it's a 0 to 20%
[52:11]
um of coverage, I'm assuming. And then
[52:14]
right next to it is 40 to 60 to 80% of
[52:17]
coverage. Uh is are there uh information
[52:23]
on why that was the case?
[52:29]
» There there's not really information on
[52:32]
why but it's a dynamic map. So when you
[52:35]
zoom in you get to see a little bit
[52:36]
more. So I didn't want to zoom in I
[52:40]
don't want to have specific households
[52:41]
uh on that level of zoom but I did
[52:43]
provide the the URL so you can drill
[52:45]
down and you can see it at a a smaller
[52:47]
scale. Um but yeah there was no
[52:51]
explanation provided for why there are
[52:53]
the gaps in coverage just shows them.
[52:55]
>> So to help me understand this on the
[52:58]
first glance there's the whiteness which
[53:00]
means it's zero fiber activities
[53:03]
whatsoever
[53:04]
>> and as you zoom zoom in closer you will
[53:08]
be able to see more details and there
[53:10]
are households that probably have better
[53:15]
uh positions or fibers. Is that correct?
[53:19]
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's a fascinating map. You
[53:22]
can actually drill down to specific
[53:23]
culde-sacs where some houses have it,
[53:25]
some don't. And then there's big swats
[53:27]
of areas that are just completely they
[53:29]
have red dots and and green dots.
[53:31]
There's bunch of red dots that don't
[53:33]
have access to fiber. And then right on
[53:35]
the other side of the street, there's a
[53:36]
bunch of green dots. So based on their
[53:38]
records,
[53:40]
it's it's a very interesting map. I I
[53:42]
don't know that can't speak to the rhyme
[53:43]
or reason as to why some have it and
[53:45]
some don't. and and it's not the
[53:47]
wireless activities, it's the fiber
[53:50]
activities.
[53:51]
>> They have multiple on here. So this um
[53:55]
this is the map for fiber. Um and then
[53:58]
this is what they have on wireless 5G
[54:02]
service. But as I said, they have that
[54:05]
strong disclaimer saying that it's based
[54:07]
on the propagation modeling. Your actual
[54:10]
service may vary due to terrain, for
[54:13]
example. So I put this up there, but I
[54:15]
don't want it to to be um saying that
[54:18]
the in better wireless service is not a
[54:21]
need. It's just this is what the FCC
[54:23]
data has and even at that sort of higher
[54:26]
level it's still showing gaps in
[54:27]
coverage.
[54:28]
>> So the map is basically a reference but
[54:32]
it doesn't indicate um specific
[54:35]
residents as to whether they have good
[54:39]
services or not.
[54:40]
>> Right? And again it's just affirming
[54:42]
that need. We did hear anecdotally at
[54:44]
the meetings and obviously through
[54:46]
public comment over years that wireless
[54:49]
service is a challenge in Hillsboro.
[54:51]
>> Thank you. Um just to follow up on that
[54:53]
in terms of my questions specifically
[54:56]
you would like us to focus our
[54:58]
conversation around what information
[55:01]
would we want from a consultant that
[55:04]
would address improved connectivity for
[55:08]
both wireless
[55:10]
um and of course broadband internet fast
[55:13]
internet etc. So, we're going to discuss
[55:16]
this and the qu and you you're asking us
[55:19]
to say what are the questions you would
[55:21]
like the consultant to answer?
[55:23]
>> Yes, those those sort of six buckets,
[55:26]
right? Um are those the right buckets?
[55:27]
Is there anything specific under there
[55:29]
that you want to make sure that that
[55:32]
staff mentions in the RFP that we get an
[55:34]
answer to?
[55:35]
>> Got you. Um we're going to go to the
[55:36]
public for public comments and we'll
[55:38]
come back and discuss this further. Any
[55:40]
um public comments?
[55:44]
Thank you, Mayor Cole. Patrick Shannon.
[55:46]
>> Hello, Patrick. Welcome.
[55:52]
» How are you?
[55:52]
>> I'm fine, thanks. Good to see you.
[55:55]
>> Nice to see you, council members. Happy
[55:57]
New Year to you all.
[55:58]
>> Yeah, same to you.
[55:59]
>> So, I just wanted to comment on the
[56:02]
subject at hand here. And to mix a
[56:04]
metaphor, I want to put a plug in for
[56:06]
satellite.
[56:08]
Now satellite as you mentioned is a fast
[56:11]
growing but nent technology but I think
[56:14]
it stands to afford a lot of benefits to
[56:17]
the town because it's a relatively
[56:19]
lowcost option and it will uh provide
[56:23]
reliability and more safety and it will
[56:26]
only expand over time. So I think what you already produced was that the
[56:33]
ma major carriers all already have
[56:36]
satellite that goes to your phone. AT&T,
[56:39]
T-Mobile, and Verizon. And that
[56:42]
technology is
[56:45]
improving significantly and somewhat at
[56:48]
a fast pace because satellite technology
[56:51]
is proliferating in the atmosphere. So
[56:56]
over time I think it's only going to
[56:58]
improve.
[57:01]
Uh experts are counting on this for the
[57:04]
future as well. It's very popular in
[57:08]
Europe and now it's been very popular
[57:10]
now across the United States mostly at
[57:14]
this point as a point of resilience and
[57:16]
reliability in case the cell towers or
[57:19]
other uh modes of communication go down.
[57:23]
But as that's proving itself out over
[57:25]
time, it's getting more robust. So for
[57:28]
example, the major carriers right now
[57:30]
not only have the phone technology, but
[57:33]
they have connectivity to apps like
[57:36]
WhatsApp or Google apps. So you could
[57:38]
use that in town uh to navigate or in
[57:43]
the case of an emergency. So I think we
[57:45]
should focus on that because that
[57:47]
technology is futureproof and it will
[57:51]
only get better with time. And it's low
[57:53]
cost,
[57:55]
works with your existing phone and um it
[57:59]
also uh is really no infrastructure. No
[58:03]
additional infrastructure is needed and
[58:05]
it would avoid the cost of
[58:07]
infrastructure as well as the visual
[58:09]
blight of heavy infrastructure in town.
[58:13]
So this won't be the only solution, but
[58:15]
I'm encouraging you to definitely put it
[58:17]
on your list because this is something
[58:20]
that can certainly complement and in the
[58:22]
future and overtake all other
[58:24]
technologies.
[58:26]
Other people will comment on other
[58:28]
areas, but that's my piece today.
[58:30]
>> Thank you. That's very informative.
[58:31]
Appreciate that. Um any additional
[58:34]
comments? So um
[58:36]
>> yes, thank you Paul on Zoom public.
[58:44]
Yes. Hello. Thank you. Um, this is a
[58:48]
timely, well, I would say timely topic,
[58:51]
but it's been a problem vexing the town
[58:53]
for 15 to 20 years. The problem is
[58:56]
really, really simple. We have lots of
[58:59]
trees, we have lots of hills, and we
[59:02]
have no cell towers.
[59:05]
That's the reason that there's basically
[59:07]
no way to make a phone call anywhere
[59:10]
outside of your house on Wi-Fi. And
[59:13]
that's only if you're lucky if Comcast
[59:15]
happens to be working. Myself, I've
[59:17]
spent several thousands of dollars at my
[59:19]
house, supplementing Comcast with
[59:22]
Starlink satellite technology and
[59:24]
others, connecting them so I can have 7
[59:27]
by 24 reception. So now the satellite
[59:30]
technology its major flaw is you have to
[59:32]
be able to see the sky. Hills being a
[59:35]
town again filled with trees and filled
[59:38]
with hills. In my house there's only a
[59:41]
very narrow window that actually has
[59:43]
visibility to the Starlink satellites,
[59:46]
but I take advantage of it. Um if you're
[59:49]
walking around or in use, it's it's
[59:51]
going to be a challenge. The
[59:54]
straightforward, simple, lowcost,
[59:58]
globally standardized solution for this
[1:00:00]
is please can we put up about a dozen
[1:00:03]
cell towers which will cover the
[1:00:06]
majority of the town, provide really
[1:00:09]
good phone coverage, really good
[1:00:12]
services for our first responders,
[1:00:17]
really good access for safety at our
[1:00:19]
schools, and can be done in fairly
[1:00:22]
unobtrusive of ways that will minimize
[1:00:26]
the effects on the nimi property owners
[1:00:29]
who are so vehemently against it. Again,
[1:00:32]
I implore you all, it's been decades
[1:00:35]
that we've had this problem. We study
[1:00:37]
it, we look at it, it gets blocked every
[1:00:41]
time by the the, you know, the vocal
[1:00:43]
opponents, but it's really so
[1:00:46]
straightforward and self-funding. you
[1:00:48]
know, the carriers will pay to put it in
[1:00:52]
if we hadn't been blocking and suing
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them, you know, to prevent them. But if
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we change our, you know, our methods, if
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we if we have the will, we can provide
[1:01:04]
really good Silicon Valley level
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connectivity and way of life for all of
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our residents. Let's just put in a dozen
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cell towers, please. Thank you very
[1:01:14]
much.
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>> Thank you, Mr. Freriedman.
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Um, additional comments. I see we have
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John on.
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>> Yes. Thank you,
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» John, if you're able to unmute. There
[1:01:29]
you go.
[1:01:29]
>> All right. Uh, can you hear me?
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>> Yes.
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>> Hello. This is John Lavich. Um, and I I
[1:01:35]
appreciate this uh topic being on the
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agenda tonight. Um, I want to focus in
[1:01:41]
on I want to say it's the letter F. I I
[1:01:44]
can't remember from the slide, but it's
[1:01:46]
the aesthetics. uh the the balance
[1:01:48]
between the town's needs for cell towers
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and the aesthetics of it. Um I too
[1:01:54]
believe that the answer is going to be
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an all of the above. Uh in a complicated
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town like we have um a mix of satellite,
[1:02:02]
a mix of fiber, uh a mix of of some some
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uh wireless infrastructure. Um and
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there's some really good ways to do it.
[1:02:11]
Um, I'd like the town to consider
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exploring um partnering with the SFPU
[1:02:17]
and PG& about um what it would take and
[1:02:21]
what it would look like to help
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fasttrack um cellular infrastructure
[1:02:25]
along that corridor of towers between
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280 and Black Mountain. I feel like
[1:02:30]
that's a great opportunity and an
[1:02:31]
arsenal of uh of positions that would
[1:02:35]
certainly improve a good portion of
[1:02:37]
Hillsboro's access to wireless and be
[1:02:40]
least intrusive um to the community.
[1:02:44]
Second of all, I I think uh in that
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balance between our aesthetics and our our wireless needs, I believe we're
[1:02:53]
in a window, a unique window of time,
[1:02:54]
and I'd like to see a result of this
[1:02:56]
project to be um making updates to our
[1:02:59]
wireless ordinance. Um what we've put
[1:03:02]
together as a community, uh your and
[1:03:04]
your predecessors, um has some good
[1:03:07]
pieces in it and it has some bad pieces
[1:03:09]
in it. Um, and I think we should I
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really encourage you if you've not to
[1:03:14]
take a look at the Los Altos Hills
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wireless ordinance. I think it's a 587.
[1:03:19]
And they're able to um put together a
[1:03:21]
really good balance. Um they have some
[1:03:23]
very pragmatic rules um primarily is
[1:03:25]
distance from homes. Um they went with
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200 feet from homes um which which mere
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our town. There is no commercial um uh
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corridor in Los Altos Hills. Um and I
[1:03:37]
think also looking at the distance we do
[1:03:39]
put these towers from schools and
[1:03:41]
communities. Um so there's a lot of
[1:03:43]
people that have already solved this
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balance between cellular infrastructure
[1:03:48]
and the need for um their residents to
[1:03:51]
feel safe and to have uh the access
[1:03:54]
technology but also to have the a
[1:03:55]
certain distance from homes. um have it
[1:03:58]
not intrude on uh on the community's uh bucolic charm and to uh ensure that
[1:04:06]
the community is well served for years
[1:04:08]
to come. Um so by partnering with our
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neighboring uh you know corridor like a
[1:04:13]
or PG updating our ordinance I think
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these should be key elements of this
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consultants review um and I think the
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town can benefit from both of those.
[1:04:26]
Um, thank you John.
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>> Any additional comment?
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>> Uh, yes. Josh Burns.
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>> Hello Josh.
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>> Hi Josh from Marorrow Road. So just want
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to touch on a couple things. Uh, one is
[1:04:44]
um, as you look at the scope of work, I
[1:04:46]
mentioned this before, but hopefully
[1:04:47]
some more focus on like providing
[1:04:49]
resources information for homeowners.
[1:04:51]
So, uh, if we look at a site for
[1:04:54]
emergency preparedness, we have
[1:04:55]
committees, we have, uh, events, we have
[1:04:58]
tons of resources for that. Same with
[1:05:00]
home security. I can call the police and
[1:05:02]
have somebody come and look at my house,
[1:05:04]
provide me feedback. You guys had an
[1:05:06]
event for providers to come and talk to
[1:05:09]
citizens. Um, and uh, also, you know,
[1:05:12]
for fire safety, we have a ton of
[1:05:14]
resources. We have a program. We have
[1:05:16]
requirements that we have to maintain.
[1:05:18]
It's all these things are very robust.
[1:05:19]
But if you think of like
[1:05:20]
telecommunications, we actually have
[1:05:22]
nothing essentially on the website. So I
[1:05:25]
think just thinking about ways that are
[1:05:27]
accessible to help people solve
[1:05:30]
problems, provide them information
[1:05:31]
that's clear and very specific to where
[1:05:33]
we live. Thinking about like what
[1:05:35]
internet providers are available or
[1:05:37]
fiber uh for wireless map of where the
[1:05:40]
wireless facilities that we have in town
[1:05:42]
for which provider. Maybe I might think
[1:05:43]
of switching to one that is located by
[1:05:46]
uh where I live. Uh I think you know
[1:05:49]
information on best practices for
[1:05:51]
improving internet coverage in the home
[1:05:54]
uh whether it's hardware whether it's
[1:05:55]
battery backup um uh you know having
[1:05:59]
listened to hours of and read hours of
[1:06:02]
feedback from citizens I would have the
[1:06:04]
point of view that like I think like 30
[1:06:06]
40% of a lot of these problems that
[1:06:08]
people have could actually be solved
[1:06:09]
with with information and resources. Uh,
[1:06:12]
and even going further, having a list of
[1:06:14]
providers that can come to your home and
[1:06:17]
help you with these problems for those
[1:06:18]
who are not techsavvy. And I think you
[1:06:21]
touched on a little bit with some of the
[1:06:23]
battery backup stuff, but uh, if there's
[1:06:25]
a way to offer discounts for specific
[1:06:27]
hardware that would be valuable for
[1:06:29]
people to address if it's battery backup
[1:06:30]
infrastructure, um, this kind of stuff.
[1:06:33]
So, I'd love to see more focus on
[1:06:36]
information resources that are
[1:06:37]
accessible and immediate. I think that
[1:06:39]
could solve a substantial amount of
[1:06:41]
problems that people are having. Um if
[1:06:44]
one minute. So the other thing would be
[1:06:47]
uh you know just touched on in the in
[1:06:49]
the agenda item information talk about
[1:06:52]
locating towers away from homes as a
[1:06:54]
main priority but uh as someone
[1:06:56]
mentioned previously there's not much
[1:06:58]
specific scope of work around like
[1:07:00]
updating ordinances. How do we actually
[1:07:02]
implement something like that um and
[1:07:04]
make changes around it? Um it's a little
[1:07:06]
bit disappointing to see more, you know,
[1:07:08]
language calling out potentially
[1:07:10]
weakening policies to encourage more
[1:07:12]
deployments. Uh so it's kind of
[1:07:14]
contradictory there. So uh John
[1:07:16]
mentioned the Los Altos Hills. We
[1:07:18]
there's other cities that has invested a
[1:07:20]
lot of resources in this that we could
[1:07:21]
kind of draft off of uh efficiently to
[1:07:24]
look at protecting uh you know the the
[1:07:28]
town character. Thank you.
[1:07:30]
>> Thank you, Josh. Any additional um
[1:07:33]
questions from the public? Thank you,
[1:07:35]
Maricole. I don't have any additional
[1:07:37]
speaker cards and I don't have any
[1:07:39]
additional raised hands on Zoom at this
[1:07:41]
time.
[1:07:42]
>> Thank you. So, we'll bring it back to
[1:07:44]
the um council and we'll discuss it and
[1:07:47]
try to give specific directives to um
[1:07:50]
the staff based on what we just heard.
[1:07:53]
Um
[1:07:54]
let me have my colleagues start and I
[1:07:58]
will follow through. Any comments from
[1:08:01]
anyone to lead in terms of opinions?
[1:08:04]
We'll start with Council Member Adams.
[1:08:07]
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Um, as most of
[1:08:10]
you know, this is something I've spent a
[1:08:11]
lot of time on and I'm really pleased to
[1:08:15]
see uh the progress that we've made. We did have this on the back burner for
[1:08:21]
a long time and it's clear we've made a
[1:08:24]
priority to pull it forward but we've
[1:08:27]
also been clear that this is a very
[1:08:30]
complicated issue and there are many
[1:08:33]
issues and there are many objectives and
[1:08:37]
I think u I I want to mention that we
[1:08:41]
really did talk at least in our first uh
[1:08:45]
meeting about how there are many things
[1:08:48]
that individuals can do on their own
[1:08:51]
without waiting for the town. There are
[1:08:54]
many things that the town can explore.
[1:08:57]
We have to do that in the context of
[1:08:59]
other priorities and also cost. But a
[1:09:02]
third element is
[1:09:04]
pressures that are brought to bear
[1:09:08]
against some of the things that we may
[1:09:11]
want to do particularly from the federal
[1:09:13]
government. So because this is complex,
[1:09:18]
I think it is a disservice to that
[1:09:21]
complexity and also to the interlocking
[1:09:24]
nature of those buckets that were
[1:09:26]
presented to us for us to opine about
[1:09:30]
the priorities at this point. I think
[1:09:32]
those are the appropriate buckets and I
[1:09:36]
think many of them are interconnected.
[1:09:39]
some of which are lowhanging fruit, but
[1:09:41]
some of which are outside of our hands.
[1:09:45]
I do like the idea of our being in
[1:09:47]
charge of giving more information so
[1:09:49]
people can have agency on their own. So
[1:09:53]
bottom line for me is
[1:09:56]
first of all definitely go to the FCC
[1:10:00]
website. It is phenomenal. It is not
[1:10:04]
accurate, but it is amazing the
[1:10:06]
information the FCC has about your home,
[1:10:10]
about your carrier, about your
[1:10:13]
situation.
[1:10:15]
Second, we did have uh a professional
[1:10:18]
assessment that said we would need 200
[1:10:21]
cell towers in order to get perfection
[1:10:25]
in coverage on Wi-Fi in our town because
[1:10:29]
of the hills, the valleys, the character
[1:10:31]
of the town and uh the trees. So
[1:10:35]
perfection is not what we're aiming for.
[1:10:38]
is progress in
[1:10:41]
each of these areas. So my
[1:10:44]
recommendation is that we talk about
[1:10:46]
what kinds of things we'd like to see
[1:10:48]
happen, but that we not dictate
[1:10:51]
solutions by making it a priority to
[1:10:55]
have X or Y at this point. That we have
[1:10:59]
this RFP go out
[1:11:02]
and that we are very clear. We want
[1:11:05]
these six things to be looked at and we
[1:11:08]
want to see how we can have improvement
[1:11:11]
in the most logical and uh really
[1:11:16]
costdriven
[1:11:18]
uh procedures that someone looking
[1:11:22]
objectively
[1:11:24]
outside of our experience really looking
[1:11:28]
at this and evaluating it I think it's
[1:11:30]
going to be invaluable. So, I encourage
[1:11:33]
us to make sure that we allow the data
[1:11:38]
to drive the priority because that may
[1:11:42]
really be surprising to us. I think most
[1:11:45]
of us were surprised by the idea that
[1:11:47]
there were potentially 70% of our town
[1:11:52]
has underground. At this point, when I
[1:11:55]
drive around town, I see a lot of
[1:11:58]
overhead lines. So that would not have
[1:12:01]
been my assessment.
[1:12:03]
I trust this process and I also would
[1:12:07]
like to at some point hear from Gail uh
[1:12:11]
about the coalition that we have joined
[1:12:13]
and uh how that is proceeding.
[1:12:17]
>> Thank you, Council Member Adams. Um
[1:12:19]
Council Member Trong, any specific
[1:12:21]
comments?
[1:12:23]
Um I I applaud that um this council and
[1:12:27]
the staffs are taking the actions of uh
[1:12:30]
moving forward on the cell services. I
[1:12:33]
think that it is now uh more in the
[1:12:37]
public's view that this is a public
[1:12:39]
safety issue that we need to have
[1:12:41]
consistent and stabilized um Wi-Fi
[1:12:45]
connections so that we can be able to
[1:12:48]
make the calls or do the texting from
[1:12:51]
our homes or from any location in
[1:12:53]
Hillsboro. Um I do support the idea of
[1:12:57]
um finding best practices. We're in the
[1:12:59]
Silicon Valley. there are different
[1:13:02]
cities trying different things. So um in
[1:13:06]
light of the state mandate and in the um
[1:13:10]
the uh serving our cities, I think that
[1:13:14]
the six buckets are
[1:13:17]
important to identify and I do think
[1:13:21]
that there are best practices that we
[1:13:23]
can look at in other cities, other
[1:13:26]
counties to see how we can bring them in
[1:13:32]
that it would apply to us um because the
[1:13:35]
topography, the location, we do have
[1:13:38]
challenges and so I I would presume that
[1:13:43]
[clears throat] different kinds of um
[1:13:45]
internet services will be advantageous
[1:13:48]
to certain location and not the others.
[1:13:51]
So to figure out what are the challenges
[1:13:55]
um it is worth a while to evaluate what
[1:13:59]
the best practice is out there.
[1:14:01]
Thank you, Council Member Chong and
[1:14:03]
Council Member Crowley.
[1:14:05]
>> Thank you. Uh, so thank you for this
[1:14:07]
preliminary leg work. I mean, it's not
[1:14:09]
preliminary because we've been working
[1:14:10]
on it for years, but um, it's long that
[1:14:12]
we all know this has long been a
[1:14:14]
priority of the council and the
[1:14:15]
residents and it's an issue, as has been
[1:14:18]
said, not only of um, convenience, but
[1:14:21]
of public safety. So, um, I agree with
[1:14:24]
one of the speakers that said it's time
[1:14:26]
to stop studying and start solving. So,
[1:14:29]
this is a great first step. I just have
[1:14:32]
a a couple of things um are admirable
[1:14:36]
but may be roadblocks. I do agree that
[1:14:39]
undergrounding these wires would improve
[1:14:41]
aesthetically the town and may also
[1:14:44]
improve our reliability. But I would
[1:14:47]
hope that we would separate that from
[1:14:49]
communication solutions because it may
[1:14:52]
be very expensive and very slow and if
[1:14:54]
we waited to do that. And I was
[1:14:57]
pleasantly surprised like you said Lori,
[1:14:59]
Council Member Adams, that um that such
[1:15:02]
a large percentage of town is already
[1:15:04]
underground. That's very um that's very
[1:15:06]
heartening. Um and then the other thing
[1:15:09]
is the 150 ft um or even 200 feet as
[1:15:13]
they said Los South. I remember when we
[1:15:15]
studied this before it it just it was
[1:15:17]
that was very challenging and we ended
[1:15:19]
up with I think 50 or 60 feet but of the
[1:15:22]
13 towers that we approved only two I
[1:15:25]
think remained controversial after we
[1:15:27]
approved them. So there was some um but
[1:15:31]
so but I am definitely in favor of the
[1:15:33]
RFP to move forward with a
[1:15:36]
telecommunications
[1:15:37]
expert consultant to evaluate the
[1:15:40]
possibilities and the challenges in
[1:15:42]
Hillsboro just like we did the bike and pedestrian master plan. I think this
[1:15:47]
is very positive and I be very
[1:15:49]
interested to see what solutions they
[1:15:51]
would would would come up with. Thank
[1:15:53]
you.
[1:15:53]
>> Thank you Council Member Krillic. Um,
[1:15:55]
Vice Mayor Ragdale.
[1:15:59]
>> Yes, thank you. Um, I'm not sure how
[1:16:02]
helpful my thoughts will be because I
[1:16:05]
liked everything that I heard from the
[1:16:08]
public and all of all of those
[1:16:10]
suggestions were just uh super helpful.
[1:16:13]
Um, in particular, I'd love to learn
[1:16:16]
more from the consultant about satellite
[1:16:19]
and um complications with satellite in
[1:16:22]
terms of latency. I know that now. Um,
[1:16:26]
in terms of if you can see the sky in
[1:16:28]
terms of are there is there more than
[1:16:30]
one company? Um, we don't want to
[1:16:33]
necessarily be at the whims of one
[1:16:36]
particular company. Um, so I'd like more
[1:16:40]
information on satellite like more
[1:16:42]
information on an education on fiber.
[1:16:44]
Um, and I love that idea of um, just
[1:16:49]
like we had for the alarm companies, if
[1:16:51]
we had a presentation where we just
[1:16:54]
invited
[1:16:55]
different people to come, the different
[1:16:57]
cell providers, um, backup battery uh,
[1:17:02]
companies, um, people who have
[1:17:04]
generators, hopefully maybe quieter
[1:17:07]
generators than I've heard. Um uh and
[1:17:10]
then the people who can come and um put
[1:17:13]
repeaters around your home to uh expand
[1:17:16]
your internet. If we could have some
[1:17:17]
kind of um forum like that, that would
[1:17:20]
be super helpful. And then have it on
[1:17:22]
our website, um as was suggested. And
[1:17:25]
then um I liked the idea of talking to
[1:17:28]
other towns. I know it's something you
[1:17:30]
guys do on a regular basis anyway. Um
[1:17:32]
but um that would be helpful. you know,
[1:17:35]
think about um parts of LA, think about
[1:17:38]
Marin. We're definitely not the only
[1:17:40]
community with um with the topography
[1:17:43]
and um trees. So, um that would be
[1:17:47]
helpful, too.
[1:17:48]
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor Ragsdale. um um
[1:17:51]
with some of the comments that's been
[1:17:53]
made by my colleagues. Um let me just um
[1:17:56]
start by asking um our consultant who is
[1:17:59]
um on Zoom with us for some
[1:18:00]
clarifications regarding current FCC um
[1:18:06]
either mandates or restrictions or rules
[1:18:08]
surrounding
[1:18:10]
um wireless
[1:18:12]
uh deployment. Um Gail, you're with us.
[1:18:15]
Gail Carish from BBK, thanks for being
[1:18:17]
here. are you able to help us with some
[1:18:20]
of that conversation?
[1:18:22]
>> Uh yes, thank you and and happy new year
[1:18:25]
everyone. Glad to glad to see you. Glad
[1:18:27]
to uh be here. Uh yeah. [clears throat]
[1:18:31]
So there are if um um the FCC so to to
[1:18:37]
keep it brief uh because I think
[1:18:39]
everyone is generally aware um
[1:18:42]
communications is a complicated subject
[1:18:45]
for local governments because there are
[1:18:47]
levels both federal and state regulation
[1:18:50]
that that can uh put some limits on on
[1:18:53]
your authority. specifically on
[1:18:56]
wireless. The FC, the Federal
[1:18:58]
Communications Commission has uh over
[1:19:01]
the past uh 15 or 20 years um taken
[1:19:07]
various steps to uh limit local
[1:19:12]
authority or put put some um
[1:19:15]
restrictions on the speed of reviewing
[1:19:18]
applications, on not being able to
[1:19:20]
simply have a moratorum, those sorts of
[1:19:22]
things. And so periodically the FCC um
[1:19:27]
starts new rulemakings or inquiries and
[1:19:30]
they've got one um currently on wireless
[1:19:33]
where they're looking at doing some
[1:19:35]
additional rule changes
[1:19:38]
u mostly related to macro uh towers and
[1:19:43]
also um uh what they call eligible
[1:19:47]
facilities requests which are changes uh
[1:19:50]
to existing wireless facilities you add
[1:19:53]
or expand them. Um there is also a wire
[1:19:58]
line proceeding which is looking at what
[1:20:01]
kind of rules the FCC might impose on
[1:20:03]
local governments such as shot clocks,
[1:20:05]
timelines for action, things like that
[1:20:08]
related to the deployment of uh fiber uh
[1:20:12]
for broadband services. So u that's a
[1:20:16]
very short overview. If you want more
[1:20:18]
details, I'm happy to answer anything.
[1:20:21]
>> Yeah. and and I'm happy you're here with
[1:20:23]
us because you were with us I think four
[1:20:25]
or five years ago when we were
[1:20:26]
discussing this. So you know the history
[1:20:28]
in terms of the conversations we've had
[1:20:30]
in the past. Um specifically
[1:20:33]
has the FCC imposed more restrictions
[1:20:37]
with regards to dis you know deployment
[1:20:40]
of wireless towers
[1:20:43]
um on the micro towers which is what we
[1:20:46]
considered we I don't believe we were
[1:20:48]
discussing micro towers at that time um
[1:20:50]
from a home for example has that
[1:20:53]
restriction changed has it gotten more
[1:20:55]
strict what what is the latest from the
[1:20:57]
FCC?
[1:20:59]
Yeah. So the the the FCC has not issued
[1:21:02]
any new uh rules uh specifically on
[1:21:08]
wireless deployments um since it's
[1:21:12]
probably about 5 years. Um there was uh
[1:21:16]
there were some rule changes. Uh the big
[1:21:19]
one that we uh the the town did an
[1:21:22]
update after was in 2018 for the small
[1:21:26]
wireless uh facilities order. Um and uh
[1:21:31]
they had a couple other orders. At that
[1:21:33]
time they had u some clarifications they
[1:21:35]
were doing to eligible facilities
[1:21:37]
requests in 2020. That was we were part
[1:21:41]
of a challenge in court that uh part of
[1:21:44]
that order got reversed. And so the FCC,
[1:21:47]
that's one of the things they're doing
[1:21:48]
now in this new proceeding is to bring
[1:21:52]
updates to the eligible facilities
[1:21:54]
request rules which are for
[1:21:55]
modifications to existing towers. Uh but
[1:21:58]
they've uh uh launched a broader
[1:22:02]
proceeding than that where they are
[1:22:03]
looking at doing some other updates. So
[1:22:06]
we do expect uh that the FCC will um uh
[1:22:12]
implement some new rules. the the status
[1:22:14]
of that proceeding is we filed and and
[1:22:17]
we thank you again for your support for
[1:22:18]
that coalition. We filed comments in the
[1:22:21]
wireless uh proceeding on uh uh December
[1:22:27]
31st and are working on our reply uh
[1:22:31]
comments. U but the we had asked the FCC
[1:22:35]
for an extension of time for filing on
[1:22:39]
the reply round uh which was very short.
[1:22:42]
Normally it's 30 days, they had 15 days
[1:22:45]
and they declined that request. So that
[1:22:47]
gives us an indication they are very
[1:22:49]
interested in moving very quickly in
[1:22:51]
that proceeding. So we anticipate that
[1:22:55]
within uh the next couple of months or
[1:22:58]
so we will have a new FCC order with
[1:23:00]
further restrictions on wireless.
[1:23:03]
>> Okay. So so not much has changed since
[1:23:05]
we last discussed this. At least it
[1:23:06]
looks like there's change on the horizon
[1:23:08]
but it hasn't happened yet. Okay. So,
[1:23:10]
for the purpose of moving forward with
[1:23:11]
this current conversation, um I have a
[1:23:14]
few comments. I I was actually quite
[1:23:16]
surprised by the maps that we're looking
[1:23:17]
at. We the map that looks at um 70%
[1:23:22]
undergrounded um util uh utilities.
[1:23:26]
That's undergrounded. 70% of the town
[1:23:28]
has undergrounded utilities. And I
[1:23:31]
always thought if I mean maybe these are
[1:23:34]
just uh legacy utilities and they were
[1:23:37]
not undergrounded with um with fiber at
[1:23:41]
the time perhaps. I was quite surprised
[1:23:43]
to see that the cellular connectivity
[1:23:46]
did not correlate with a higher
[1:23:49]
reception and and I was just wondering
[1:23:51]
if we have any information on why that's
[1:23:53]
the case. Are these just older fibers
[1:23:55]
and they're just not
[1:23:57]
more updated fibers and we therefore
[1:23:59]
don't have much data traveling with it.
[1:24:05]
» I have some thoughts on that. I don't
[1:24:07]
know if you were directing that to me or
[1:24:08]
not.
[1:24:09]
>> I would like your thoughts as well.
[1:24:10]
Yeah, maybe we can start with you Gail.
[1:24:11]
Go ahead. So, um, one of the things I I
[1:24:16]
think with that broadband map maybe that
[1:24:18]
it's not always show it's not always
[1:24:20]
showing where there is fiber
[1:24:22]
necessarily, but where there's a level
[1:24:24]
of service. And so um
[1:24:29]
uh a Comcast has uh has uh you know
[1:24:35]
traditionally Comcast built a coaxial
[1:24:38]
cable system but then uh all of the
[1:24:41]
cable operators have been putting more
[1:24:44]
fiber into their networks. They still
[1:24:47]
have a so they're called hybrid coaxial
[1:24:50]
f coaxial cable and fiber networks. Um,
[1:24:55]
so when it shows a level of of speed for
[1:24:59]
broadband service or for internet access
[1:25:02]
service, that doesn't necessarily mean
[1:25:04]
there's fiber to that to provide that
[1:25:07]
service. It could be a combination. And
[1:25:09]
so that may be what you're you're uh
[1:25:12]
seeing uh in terms of the level of
[1:25:15]
broadband available does not necessarily
[1:25:17]
co correlate to fiber being in in the
[1:25:21]
ground or on poles in that area.
[1:25:25]
Okay. So the importance of that is that
[1:25:28]
just because we talk about
[1:25:30]
undergrounding, we have to be very
[1:25:32]
specific to address the communications
[1:25:35]
component of that. The broadband
[1:25:38]
um connectivity is what we're interested
[1:25:40]
in. In other words, I mean that I'm just
[1:25:43]
learning that information right now as
[1:25:44]
you speak. Is that is that correct?
[1:25:47]
>> Well, yeah. What I would say is usually
[1:25:49]
when you're looking at utilities
[1:25:50]
undergrounding, you're looking at
[1:25:52]
undergrounding all the utilities. So it
[1:25:55]
would be the uh you know the electric
[1:25:58]
utilities and anything else that is on
[1:26:00]
the poles which may be you know it could
[1:26:04]
be coaxial cable um it could be fiber it
[1:26:08]
could be uh you may have some copper
[1:26:10]
lines still uh copper facilities in in
[1:26:13]
your town. So it would be whatever is on
[1:26:15]
the poles, you would be looking at
[1:26:17]
undergrounding all of it u together.
[1:26:20]
Otherwise I mean that is the point if
[1:26:23]
you want to actually remove the utility
[1:26:25]
poles is you have to underground all of
[1:26:27]
the utilities that are on the pole.
[1:26:29]
>> Gotcha. So um thanks for that. And I
[1:26:33]
think my opinion in terms of what we've
[1:26:35]
discussed on the day today is I agree
[1:26:37]
with my colleagues. Um I I agree with uh
[1:26:41]
council member Krik. I think we really
[1:26:43]
need to focus on solving coming forward
[1:26:45]
with solutions. It does not mean the
[1:26:47]
town has the solutions but my question
[1:26:51]
would be to this consultant as part of
[1:26:54]
your research um and feedback to us
[1:26:57]
bring us information as well that the
[1:27:00]
town could perhaps what can the town do
[1:27:03]
to enhance services whether it's
[1:27:06]
connectivity to residents. Um maybe we
[1:27:09]
do nothing, maybe we don't have the the
[1:27:10]
capacity financially and otherwise to do
[1:27:13]
anything, but at least what are the
[1:27:16]
specific things the town can do um with
[1:27:20]
regards to fiber that would address um
[1:27:22]
broadband internet service and it's
[1:27:25]
going to be multiaceted. I mean what I'm
[1:27:27]
hearing is that we may
[1:27:30]
need to find a way to enhance all three
[1:27:33]
components satellite fiber and cell
[1:27:36]
towers. we may need that degree of
[1:27:39]
redundancy and um I'm I'll be interested
[1:27:42]
to know what my um colleagues think
[1:27:44]
about that because I think at the end of
[1:27:46]
the day what we're going to be able to
[1:27:48]
do is to bring solutions to the town and
[1:27:49]
to the residents and say well maybe we
[1:27:52]
can use some town owned sites for to
[1:27:55]
deploy some cell towers. Maybe we can
[1:27:58]
run a little bit of fiber somewhere that
[1:28:00]
would help residents get fiber with
[1:28:02]
better broadband. Um, and then maybe
[1:28:05]
certain areas can only use or can
[1:28:07]
benefit more from satellite. My question
[1:28:09]
would be from this consultant, what can
[1:28:12]
the town do to enhance this
[1:28:14]
communication issue across the board?
[1:28:16]
And I would be interested to hear your
[1:28:18]
feedback on that. But I do feel strongly
[1:28:20]
that moving forward with specific
[1:28:22]
questions and coming back with specific
[1:28:24]
answers. And as council member Adams uh
[1:28:26]
noted, we we need the answers and we are
[1:28:30]
going to be talking about um strategic
[1:28:32]
planning. So this conversation may come
[1:28:34]
back, but we do need specific answers to
[1:28:37]
help residents solve this problem and we
[1:28:40]
need to do so in short order. I don't
[1:28:42]
think I think the undergrounding issue
[1:28:45]
in in the 30% that's not undergrounded
[1:28:47]
may take a very long time. I I don't
[1:28:50]
know, but that also needs to be
[1:28:51]
explored. But we certainly need to
[1:28:53]
address the communication issue more
[1:28:55]
urgently. And I think that needs to be
[1:28:56]
addressed like soon. We can't put put
[1:28:59]
this off any longer. we're all fully aware of um natural disasters and
[1:29:05]
emergencies and the importance of public
[1:29:07]
safety along those lines. So if any of
[1:29:09]
my colleagues want to comment what I
[1:29:11]
just said, I'm happy to continue the
[1:29:13]
conversation.
[1:29:15]
>> Thank you. I I I think I agree with um
[1:29:18]
everyone on the dis um that we really
[1:29:21]
are looking for solutions and it is
[1:29:24]
better that we have solutions while
[1:29:27]
there's no applications. you know when
[1:29:29]
we have applications then we cater to
[1:29:32]
their selections and that makes it a
[1:29:34]
very difficult conversation. I think
[1:29:36]
that we're
[1:29:39]
seriously looking at the three options
[1:29:42]
that has the pro and cons and maybe also
[1:29:46]
depends on where the homes located. Um
[1:29:50]
at the end of the day it is public
[1:29:52]
safety. It is consistent delivery of the
[1:29:56]
wireless service. And so um it would be
[1:30:00]
really great to get the consultant to
[1:30:03]
find out best practices out there, what
[1:30:06]
is applicable for our town and to the
[1:30:09]
extent to the mayor's comments on you
[1:30:12]
know so perhaps the city then we'll be
[1:30:14]
able to utilize our resources to help
[1:30:18]
support those uh improvements going
[1:30:20]
forward.
[1:30:23]
>> Um Council Member Crowley. Yeah, I just
[1:30:26]
want to say thanks to the members of the
[1:30:27]
public who are here and on Zoom, Josh
[1:30:29]
Burns and Patrick Shannon and Paul
[1:30:31]
Freriedman. You've all been part of the
[1:30:33]
conversation that came to a head a few
[1:30:35]
years ago and I think we're looking
[1:30:36]
forward to moving forward and and it's
[1:30:39]
good to have the input because hopefully
[1:30:40]
we can all work together to come up with
[1:30:42]
something that works for everybody.
[1:30:45]
>> Um, Council Member Adams, you have
[1:30:47]
additional comments.
[1:30:48]
>> Uh, I I agree with everything we've
[1:30:51]
said. We're solutionoriented
[1:30:53]
and we're ready, but we're also ready to
[1:30:56]
help our citizens do the solutions that
[1:30:59]
they can do in the interim. So, it's
[1:31:02]
complicated, but that's why we're going
[1:31:04]
to get somebody involved in this who
[1:31:07]
knows how the pieces of this puzzle fit
[1:31:09]
together. Um, with regard to
[1:31:11]
undergrounding,
[1:31:13]
it has a a tie to in some ways uh making
[1:31:18]
sure that we have consistent electrical
[1:31:20]
delivery of our utilities. In some ways
[1:31:24]
that affects all of this, but in some
[1:31:27]
ways it is a separate issue. But I think
[1:31:29]
it's really good to put it together with
[1:31:31]
this at this time because that will give
[1:31:34]
us we actually have as uh our assistant
[1:31:37]
city manager said we already have uh an
[1:31:41]
engineering firm working on how we would
[1:31:44]
structure in in including more uh
[1:31:48]
districts
[1:31:50]
as undergrounded. It may not be
[1:31:53]
something we want to eventually do, but
[1:31:55]
as it might relate to this, it's really
[1:31:57]
good to have this consultant kind of
[1:31:58]
have that in the back of the mind as
[1:32:00]
well. And I really think we just ought
[1:32:03]
to go for this right away and still have
[1:32:06]
our citizens who are very much engaged
[1:32:10]
continue to be engaged in the
[1:32:11]
conversation.
[1:32:15]
» Um any um additional comments? Um so I
[1:32:18]
think Mandy uh Brown the general
[1:32:21]
directives is move forward with the RFP.
[1:32:24]
Um if you could go to the last slide
[1:32:26]
when you outlined timeline cost
[1:32:31]
um and just resources that would need to
[1:32:33]
be deployed.
[1:32:34]
>> Yes.
[1:32:35]
>> And if I could could I just summarize
[1:32:38]
the direction that I heard to make sure
[1:32:39]
that I'm on the right track. So the
[1:32:41]
undergrounding utilities since that
[1:32:43]
analysis is underway, we're sort of
[1:32:45]
carving that out, but it will inform the
[1:32:48]
study um rather than be part of this
[1:32:51]
study. It would just tie in. Um and then
[1:32:54]
the buckets are correct, the remaining
[1:32:56]
buckets. But what I heard from the
[1:32:57]
public and from the council is making
[1:33:00]
sure that we're including best
[1:33:01]
practices, uh looking at other
[1:33:03]
jurisdictions and their regulations and
[1:33:05]
using that to help inform. um as well as
[1:33:09]
a resource library, public information,
[1:33:11]
how the town can connect residents with
[1:33:13]
solutions and a specific action plan for
[1:33:16]
what the town can do as part of that
[1:33:18]
deliverable. Um
[1:33:20]
>> and and I think there was also one other
[1:33:22]
point you discussed that we have not
[1:33:24]
delved into but I think we would like to
[1:33:26]
hear more on that which is really backup
[1:33:29]
support in the event of um tow town
[1:33:31]
townwide um uh power outages um
[1:33:35]
providing resources with regards to
[1:33:38]
generators, batteries and even the issue
[1:33:41]
of micro grid is taking off. There's uh
[1:33:44]
there are lots of entities exploring
[1:33:46]
that and to perhaps look to see um how
[1:33:49]
we can utilize town owned sites to
[1:33:53]
create a micro grid in certain areas
[1:33:54]
that are very prone to power outages. Um
[1:33:58]
those are all things we would like them
[1:33:59]
to explore. Yeah. Go ahead, Vice Mayor
[1:34:01]
Rexdale.
[1:34:02]
>> Um as far as what I heard, I thought
[1:34:04]
that was a great summary. The only thing
[1:34:05]
I'd add is in talking with other towns,
[1:34:08]
not just on their ordinances, but also
[1:34:10]
solutions that they've come up with.
[1:34:13]
>> Got it. Thank you.
[1:34:15]
>> Um any additional Yeah, we have someone
[1:34:17]
in the public who would like to make a
[1:34:19]
comment and I'll definitely um make an
[1:34:21]
exception. Probably comment is closed,
[1:34:23]
but definitely. Yeah. Yes, please do
[1:34:30]
» for our source of interconnectivity.
[1:34:35]
I want I wanted to say I cover the news
[1:34:38]
and I was in Aldina. I was in Paradise
[1:34:42]
and I was in Napa. The first thing to go
[1:34:46]
are the cell towers because they get
[1:34:48]
burned and it was useless and we
[1:34:52]
couldn't get out. we couldn't get a call
[1:34:53]
in or get a call out. So if we are
[1:34:56]
thinking about emergency services or
[1:34:59]
safety issues and if we are only relying
[1:35:02]
on cell towers and forget it
[1:35:05]
because when there's a fire and
[1:35:07]
earthquake it they don't work right. I
[1:35:10]
think the directive is to explore
[1:35:13]
uh all of the above um with regard to
[1:35:16]
redund redundancy to explore satellite
[1:35:19]
maybe not for the whole town but in
[1:35:21]
specific areas maybe for the whole town
[1:35:23]
that may be perfect we don't know yet we
[1:35:24]
need to see what resources will be
[1:35:27]
required explore fiber and explore cell
[1:35:31]
towers everything we're hearing so far
[1:35:34]
um even in satellite I actually wanted
[1:35:36]
to ask one of the speakers Um,
[1:35:40]
when you have townwide or regionwide
[1:35:43]
fires,
[1:35:45]
does satellite still is it is it good?
[1:35:49]
Does it still work?
[1:35:50]
>> Yes, we use satellite phones.
[1:35:52]
>> Okay.
[1:35:53]
>> Yeah.
[1:35:53]
So, I think the the recommendation
[1:35:56]
is to have a consultant come back to us
[1:35:58]
with all of the above and then we can
[1:36:02]
depending on what resources are
[1:36:04]
required, we can certainly prioritize. I
[1:36:06]
totally agree with you. You want to have
[1:36:09]
regular communication when everything is
[1:36:12]
perfect, but in the event of an
[1:36:13]
emergency, you do want redundancy. You
[1:36:16]
want other options so people can
[1:36:18]
>> I think during the last meeting, we also
[1:36:20]
talked about um
[1:36:24]
levying a fee to under to help under the
[1:36:28]
expense of undergrounding all the
[1:36:30]
cables.
[1:36:31]
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's also being discussed as well.
[1:36:36]
Okay. Thanks for your comments. I
[1:36:37]
appreciate it. Um, any additional
[1:36:39]
comments from anyone in the public or
[1:36:41]
from the DEAS?
[1:36:44]
All right.
[1:36:46]
>> Do we need a motion? Uh,
[1:36:48]
>> we've given directives. Um, is this uh
[1:36:51]
my understanding is this is mostly a
[1:36:54]
discussion.
[1:36:55]
>> Just Mayor Cole and council. Uh, no need
[1:36:56]
for a motion unless the direction is
[1:36:58]
unclear to any of you, but I think if
[1:37:00]
Mandy Brown has that direction, then I
[1:37:01]
think you're fine to proceed.
[1:37:03]
>> Yeah. Correct. Is that is that okay with
[1:37:06]
everyone? Good. We will close both both
[1:37:10]
public comments and move on to the next
[1:37:12]
agenda item which is city council items.
[1:37:15]
Um we'll start with uh council member
[1:37:17]
Adams.
[1:37:23]
» Thank you Mayor Cole. Uh December was an
[1:37:27]
interesting month in terms of my council
[1:37:31]
activities. Next slide. Uh the Rethink
[1:37:34]
Waste Board did not meet in December.
[1:37:36]
The Hillsboro Beautification Foundation,
[1:37:39]
the board did not meet, but light up the
[1:37:41]
town was a huge success. I'll talk about
[1:37:44]
that in a minute. Uh the subcommittee
[1:37:46]
for Tobin Clark simply updated the land
[1:37:49]
assessment tools and the survey so that
[1:37:52]
we can get started. The subcommittee on
[1:37:54]
ordinances did not meet in December
[1:37:58]
and I did meet with public works uh as
[1:38:02]
we normally do. Next slide.
[1:38:06]
Um I just wanted to mention uh light up
[1:38:08]
the town. I had a conflict but I
[1:38:11]
understand it was extremely extremely
[1:38:14]
well attended and wellreceived swing
[1:38:17]
set. We certainly love having uh the
[1:38:21]
musical uh entertainment but also just
[1:38:24]
the camaraderie of the town. So I wanted
[1:38:27]
to compliment uh the Hillsboro
[1:38:29]
Beautification Foundation which takes
[1:38:30]
that very seriously and runs it for us.
[1:38:34]
Next
[1:38:36]
slide. Uh I'm have an action photo.
[1:38:41]
Actually, there's two action photos of
[1:38:44]
our vice mayor at the council of cities
[1:38:47]
uh which took place in in December in
[1:38:50]
Kulma. That event was attended uh by uh
[1:38:54]
council member Schwang, myself and our
[1:38:57]
vice mayor uh who aly represented us. It
[1:39:02]
does it may look like the person in the
[1:39:04]
front of the right photograph is
[1:39:06]
praying, but he's not. He's actually
[1:39:09]
listening intently as our vice mayor
[1:39:11]
talks. Next slide.
[1:39:15]
Uh again, it was uh really Meline was
[1:39:21]
the shining star for us. uh uh Vice
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Mayor Ragsdale and myself were there
[1:39:29]
when the truck arrived with her artwork
[1:39:33]
and her entire class and her family uh
[1:39:36]
were able to see her truck uh which was
[1:39:40]
pretty impressive and I want to
[1:39:43]
compliment Rethink Waste. They actually
[1:39:46]
gave her this uh little remembrance of
[1:39:50]
this event. But it was quite nice for
[1:39:53]
the whole school to see this. Next
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uh leadership council San Monteo all day
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intense
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simulation. You probably anyone who
[1:40:06]
experienced that can't forget it. I
[1:40:09]
won't go any deeper than that. But you
[1:40:10]
learn a lot in this simulation. That was
[1:40:13]
an all day event. Next slide.
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Uh, I really truly enjoyed uh being
[1:40:22]
there for our police department badge
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pinning and swearing in. And I just
[1:40:28]
wanted to emphasize how important it is
[1:40:32]
uh not just for the town and for our
[1:40:34]
employees but also for their families
[1:40:38]
and how proud they are of participating
[1:40:41]
in such a very positive event.
[1:40:45]
Congratulations to everyone there
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uh and all of us were there. Everyone
[1:40:51]
from uh the council. Next slide.
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And I want to compliment and underscore
[1:41:00]
the great work done by the town of
[1:41:02]
Hillsboro's public works. Uh it's their
[1:41:05]
regular maintenance. It's their
[1:41:07]
preparation for weather. It's their
[1:41:09]
responsiveness that keeps us safe when
[1:41:12]
atmospheric rivers decide to come and uh
[1:41:16]
pay a visit. And I really want us to
[1:41:19]
appreciate that hard work in planning
[1:41:22]
and execution. I also want to express
[1:41:26]
gratitude for citizen reports. It's
[1:41:29]
really important. Uh this is how we find
[1:41:34]
out what's happening. If someone's
[1:41:37]
walking their dog and they see a hole in
[1:41:40]
the asphalt and they contact public
[1:41:44]
works,
[1:41:46]
we find the the sinkhole and we fix it,
[1:41:49]
which is what we did. So, I just want to
[1:41:52]
encourage people to recognize you are
[1:41:55]
the eyes and ears of our town, not just
[1:41:58]
for public works, for building and
[1:42:00]
planning, for permitting. This is an
[1:42:04]
important component of being a good
[1:42:06]
citizen and we actually appreciate it.
[1:42:08]
It's what keeps us safe. I think that's
[1:42:11]
the end. Next, thanks.
[1:42:14]
>> Thank you, Council Member Adams. I'm
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Council Member Trong.
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I don't have the show and tell
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[clears throat] and I think that council
[1:42:24]
member Adams has covered most of the
[1:42:26]
events uh for December. Um I do want to
[1:42:30]
say 2026 there will be Super Bowl
[1:42:34]
FIFA. Um there's going to be a lot of uh
[1:42:38]
activities that's happening in our area
[1:42:41]
and I highly encourage that people look
[1:42:43]
into the public transit. Um it is now
[1:42:46]
contactless which means that you can use
[1:42:49]
your credit card to purchase your
[1:42:51]
tickets to be able to take board train
[1:42:54]
or buses and I think that in any kind of
[1:42:58]
gathering uh it will be advantageous for
[1:43:00]
you to be able to uh find the schedule
[1:43:03]
and be able to take advantage of that.
[1:43:06]
Um and uh Sam turns by the way will be
[1:43:10]
uh celebrating its uh 50th anniversary
[1:43:13]
this year. So, it's a big deal. Thank
[1:43:16]
you.
[1:43:18]
>> Um, thank you, Council Member um, Trong,
[1:43:20]
Council Member Crowic.
[1:43:21]
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Again,
[1:43:22]
congratulations to Chief Colola and to
[1:43:25]
all the members of the HPD who got swung
[1:43:27]
in. Was a great event as council member
[1:43:29]
Adams um, talked about. Um, alarm
[1:43:32]
monitoring ended on December 31st. I
[1:43:34]
haven't gotten any complaints from
[1:43:36]
residents. The alarm company that we
[1:43:38]
used to turn over said they were very, busy. So, I think that um HPD and
[1:43:42]
the town did a great job getting the
[1:43:44]
word out on that. We hope CCFD's toy
[1:43:46]
drive was very, very successful. Thanks
[1:43:49]
to them. Um ADRB met on December 17th,
[1:43:53]
and we did say goodbye to Kathleen Egan,
[1:43:55]
who's served for quite a long time, and
[1:43:58]
she will be recognized at our volunteer
[1:43:59]
thank you event. The date is still to be
[1:44:01]
determined, but we should be able to
[1:44:03]
announce that by tomorrow. I just have
[1:44:05]
to do a final huddle with our city clerk
[1:44:07]
and our mayor. Thank you.
[1:44:09]
Council Member Krillic. Um,
[1:44:12]
Vice Mayor Rexdale,
[1:44:14]
>> thank you. Um, I I'll try to be brief
[1:44:17]
because I think most are repeats. Uh,
[1:44:18]
next slide.
[1:44:21]
>> Um, oh, ebikes. You may have gotten an
[1:44:24]
invitation. Um if not um uh it can it
[1:44:29]
can go out on the e-news but um Diane
[1:44:31]
Papin is putting together a forum on
[1:44:34]
ebikes uh later this month and Ana Dal
[1:44:38]
the chair of our youth commission will
[1:44:39]
be part of that. um I plan on attending.
[1:44:43]
Um but anyway, she wrote a fantastic
[1:44:45]
editorial which was in the Daily Journal
[1:44:47]
and um is really working on this issue
[1:44:50]
and adding in the teen perspective which
[1:44:53]
is so crucial and u very much
[1:44:56]
appreciated. Um badge pinning the
[1:44:59]
calendar. Um,
[1:45:02]
uh, oh, Smearan House. Um, Council
[1:45:05]
Member Schwang and her husband Mike and
[1:45:07]
I were there to to help with their, um,
[1:45:09]
gift distribution event, which is always
[1:45:12]
a joy. Uh, next slide.
[1:45:16]
And next slide. Love the truck.
[1:45:20]
And
[1:45:22]
next slide. I swear I wasn't even
[1:45:24]
drinking. And that's what
[1:45:28]
um this is I'm sure you all know Ariel.
[1:45:32]
Uh I like to say he was in charge at
[1:45:35]
South School. Um but he worked at South
[1:45:38]
School and facilities for 27 years. It
[1:45:42]
was four or five principles I think that
[1:45:44]
he went through. He knew uh every kid.
[1:45:48]
Um he helped them all learn to tie their
[1:45:52]
shoes and did the the not fun work of
[1:45:55]
cleaning up things and um was just a
[1:45:58]
strong strong presence for all of the
[1:46:00]
families and there was a beautiful
[1:46:02]
celebration that alumni were invited to.
[1:46:05]
We made a big um goodbye tunnel u with
[1:46:09]
music and it was spectacular. Um and if
[1:46:12]
you still want to see Ariel, he still
[1:46:15]
works at the Costco. Um, so you can go
[1:46:18]
by and see him there. Um, but it was
[1:46:20]
just a great uh I was at South School
[1:46:24]
twice and like in a week. Um, and it's
[1:46:26]
just great that most of us move here for
[1:46:29]
the schools and it was um really
[1:46:32]
fantastic to see the that connection
[1:46:34]
there and I think Oh, is it North ran
[1:46:38]
that place too
[1:46:40]
and I think that was my last slide. Yes.
[1:46:42]
Thank you.
[1:46:43]
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor Rexdale. One more
[1:46:45]
thing, Council Member Schwang, also
[1:46:47]
known as chair of SAMR,
[1:46:51]
she didn't mention that. So,
[1:46:57]
» thank you. Um, yes, my colleagues have
[1:47:00]
already mentioned a lot of what the past
[1:47:02]
couple of months have looked like. Um,
[1:47:05]
and I thank them for their
[1:47:06]
participation. I did participate in some
[1:47:08]
of these events, so I will not repeat
[1:47:09]
it. However, um I would like to do a
[1:47:11]
quick update on CACAG meeting which is
[1:47:14]
the um cities of um the basically the 21
[1:47:20]
uh cities in the San Monteo County that
[1:47:22]
are represented by this government
[1:47:24]
agency meets monthly and often deal with
[1:47:29]
um legislative agendas or bills that are
[1:47:33]
moving through the state legislature. Um
[1:47:35]
in this case in this last meeting in
[1:47:37]
December 11th we
[1:47:40]
specifically of note that I would like
[1:47:42]
to bring back is we had a presentation
[1:47:43]
from 21 elements of the San Monteo
[1:47:46]
County which is a clearing house of um
[1:47:49]
just housing information and assistance
[1:47:51]
with our reena numbers and making sure
[1:47:54]
we're staying on schedule. And the most
[1:47:57]
significant information that was given
[1:47:59]
to us was that Reena 7 will start 2028
[1:48:03]
through 2029. That information will be
[1:48:06]
forthcoming. Um Abag, which is the
[1:48:09]
entity that calculates what every
[1:48:12]
municipality's reena seven allocations
[1:48:15]
would look like, we'll be starting
[1:48:17]
working on that um within the next six
[1:48:20]
months to 12 months. Um, so just to sort
[1:48:23]
of keep it in our blinders and they
[1:48:25]
really are recommending that every
[1:48:27]
municipality start work early on meeting
[1:48:31]
their resoning targets. So I just want
[1:48:33]
to pass that along to my colleagues. Not
[1:48:36]
as much fun news as the stuff you were
[1:48:38]
talking about, but unfortunately that's what they're
[1:48:42]
talking about. [snorts] Um, otherwise um
[1:48:45]
I had a wonderful holiday with my
[1:48:47]
family. Yeah. And um also one more
[1:48:50]
important thing that also happened at
[1:48:51]
CCAG, our council member Chuang was
[1:48:56]
reappointed to one shoreline uh board of
[1:48:59]
directors. Congratulations.
[1:49:07]
With that said, oh yeah, go ahead,
[1:49:09]
Council Member Trunk.
[1:49:11]
>> Uh
[1:49:11]
>> she's busy.
[1:49:12]
>> Uh well, thank you very much for your um
[1:49:15]
kind acknowledgement. Um I I do want to
[1:49:18]
u remind the staff that because the uh
[1:49:22]
El Camino Real's improvement project is
[1:49:26]
taking place and it will be happening
[1:49:28]
for the next three years and most likely
[1:49:31]
four. Um the traffic is going to be
[1:49:34]
horrendous and so to the extent that the
[1:49:36]
PD the public work I think is all hands
[1:49:40]
on deck. Even though the communication
[1:49:42]
most likely come from Berling game, I
[1:49:45]
would you know implore that we pay
[1:49:47]
attention to it and remind our residents
[1:49:50]
to um avoid those area if they're in a
[1:49:53]
hurry. Um so and then be mindful of the
[1:49:57]
SMC alert. I think that that would be
[1:49:59]
very helpful.
[1:50:00]
>> Um before I adjourn, I would like to ask
[1:50:02]
our city attorney. We had we didn't
[1:50:05]
finish our close session meeting and we
[1:50:07]
talked about resuming it after the city
[1:50:09]
council meeting. Is that still
[1:50:10]
appropriate to do so?
[1:50:12]
>> It is, mayor. Um, we would just want to
[1:50:13]
note for the public that you're going to
[1:50:14]
convene in close session and consider
[1:50:16]
item C at the conclusion of this public
[1:50:18]
meeting.
[1:50:19]
>> Thank you. And with that said, this
[1:50:21]
meeting is now adjourned.
[1:50:31]
» Um, the city council is um now reporting
[1:50:34]
from close session and we need to take
[1:50:37]
um a roll call. Correct.
[1:50:39]
>> I'll just go ahead and announce for the
[1:50:41]
record that all council members are
[1:50:42]
present.
[1:50:43]
>> We all here and I'll turn it over to our
[1:50:45]
city attorney.
[1:50:46]
>> No, thank you uh Mayor Cole. I just
[1:50:48]
wanted to note that council did
[1:50:49]
reconvene in close session to consider
[1:50:51]
item C on the close session agenda. At
[1:50:53]
the conclusion of that direction was
[1:50:55]
given to staff, but otherwise there was
[1:50:56]
no reportable action under the Brown
[1:50:57]
Act. Thank you. Okay.
[1:50:59]
>> Thank you.
[1:51:01]
This session this meeting is now closed.
[1:51:04]
Thanks.