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Councilman McCarthy. Yeah. Councilman Wareheim. Here. Councilwoman Inzarella. Here.
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We have a very
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late-night agenda here, so I'm aware that there are people here who want to present a plan for downtown
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King's Park, and then we could use the law and leave as you like, and we will go through the
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agenda. So somebody's going to make the presentation. Right up there you have some
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platforms.
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Linda Henninger,
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Anthony Tanji, and James Longo. Please be guarded by the three-minute rule, please, in the presentation.
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Good evening, Supervisor Vacchio and Town Board members. My name is Linda Henninger, and I represent the Kings Park Civic Association.
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The Civic Association, along with the Kings Park Chamber of Commerce and Kings Park Community members, is here tonight to present to the Town Board
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the Kings Park Community's downtown vision plan.
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It was a little over a year ago, the Civic Association, the Chamber came together to discuss the need for revitalization of our communities downtown.
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In an effort to facilitate a community-based plan, we hired Vision Long Island, a regional planning organization.
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Immediately thereafter, we met with the leaders of almost every community group in Kings Park to discuss the idea of creating a plan that would reflect the needs and wants of the entire community.
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These groups include Kings Park Central School District, Kings Park Fire Department,
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Fort Salonga Association, San Remo Civic Association, the VFW,
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the American Legion, Kings Park Youth, Kings Park Soccer,
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St. Joseph's COIO, and the Nisquab River State Park Foundation.
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After this, we held two town-wide workshops and a final meeting
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which elicited community ideas, hopes, and horrors
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regarding revitalizing our downtown.
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turn out participation was tremendous. The Civic Association in the Chamber also held several
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smaller meetings throughout the year eliciting input. Additionally, a social media site was
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created which encouraged continued input. We are confident in stating that the document we present
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tonight represents the participation of thousands of community residents. The process was
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transparent, engaging and very positive. I'd now like to introduce Tony Tansy, President
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the Chamber of Commerce to discuss the results of the undertaking. Thank you very much.
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Thank you, Linda. Good evening, Mr. Supervisor,
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member of the Town Board, members of the Town Board. I would like to start out by
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thanking each and every one of you for indulging us this evening and giving us the opportunity
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to present you with this plan. You've all been given the planets actually
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on the table for, and I think some of you already see that. As Linda said,
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this was a grassroots effort that gave everyone in our community
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the chance to be heard and to have their ideas incorporated.
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If there's one thing about our vision process, it taught us that the Kings Park community is very willing to share its opinion.
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Now, while our plan is not official and that it was not produced by any government entity, it does have two key elements.
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One, it had a lot of public engagement, and two, it was prepared by professional planners.
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Now, one of the things this process has shown, without a shadow of a doubt, is that King's Park has tremendous potential.
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However, in order to achieve that potential, King's Park needs sewers. This plan is the first step in helping us get them.
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We also want to be very clear that we're not asking you to do this for us.
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We want to be absolutely clear we are willing to help.
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The entire King's Park community is committed to doing whatever it takes to see that our downtown becomes the downtown that it can be.
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We the Kings Park community respectfully request that you take some time to review it and please
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adopt this plan by town board resolution as a conceptual blueprint for the future of Kings
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Park. I thank you, the Kings Park Chamber of Commerce thanks you, the Kings Park Civic
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Association thanks you, and the Kings Park community as a whole thanks you. Thank you very
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much. Thank you. Thank you.
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The one thing we have Trudy Fitzsimmons who was a representative,
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She's also a resident of Kings Park, but she's a representative from Vision Long Island who created the plan.
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She was just going to go into a couple of the elements so that she can kind of paraphrase it.
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Thank you.
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Please give me your phone name and address so we don't have to.
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Oh, we have it here.
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You got it?
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Okay, great.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much, and thank you for your attention this evening.
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My name is Trudy Fitzsimons.
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I'm co-chair of Vision Long Island, and I'm a very happy resident of Kings Park.
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Thank you for the opportunity to talk about this plan in October.
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As Linda said, they had a visiting and the community came together and told us what they wanted to see
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and what they hoped for and what might be possible in their view.
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And we took some experts and got together and gave them a plan
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that from something as simple as putting, lighting the streets and further on.
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The action plan was put together based on input from hundreds of residents and businesses and property owners, town and civic and Chamber of Commerce folks.
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In addition to an overall concept, it contains recommendations for improvements in walkability, enhancing character and zoning modifications, and public space improvements.
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The recommendations include short, medium, and long-term strategies.
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The design team who have translated all of the community input into a cohesive plan includes Alyssa Kyle of Vision, David Burrb from DLB Consulting,
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Dean Gowan and Alan Giantesimo and Wendell and Glenn Chirveny from GRCH Architects.
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Vision would also like to thank Linda Heninger and Sean Layman from the Kings Park Civic Association,
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Tony Tansy and Adam Wood from Kings Park Chamber of Commerce and all of the different groups
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who participated. We're very thankful and we like to concentrate on local and have local participation.
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That's where you get the best results. And everyone who wants to see something can be included as best we can.
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So thank you very much for your time and attention and we hope this will go forward. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Is this plan presented to our planning department, Mr. Tansy?
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We, actually that was one of the things I wanted to bring up was, and I forgot.
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This process also includes the planning department.
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The planning department was...
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Okay.
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And just to keep it a sense of...
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Sorry about that.
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Vision had met with the planning department on two separate occasions
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to make sure that everything that is in this plan does not conflict
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with the master plan that's currently working on it.
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Good.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Long, would you like to be heard?
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Thank you. I'll only take a moment.
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I haven't had an opportunity to read the plan or really discuss it in any detail.
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I had met on occasion with Tony to review some of the items that he was including.
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My one concern that I'd just like to make sure is covered is that if you're going to be soaring the central business zone,
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I wanted to just make sure that that will also include the Pulaski Road from basically
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Comac Road all the way down to Main Street.
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There's several businesses there starting with Speedway in 7-Eleven and Dunkin' Docks.
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We can run through the whole thing.
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And I just encourage the town, if you're going to adopt it, adopt it and be all-inclusive
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of the central business zone.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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That's it on the vision of the island. Thank you so much for coming.
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We're going to read the agenda now.
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Yes. I told you all here to praise us for the triple-A bond we're in the time to achieve.
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Right now, sir.
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Give
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you a couple of chocolate kisses.
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Yes, thank you. Thank you.
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Work your way. Thank you, Mr. Bucket.
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Thank you.
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Jack, you're going to sit and watch those characters, is that what you said?
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He said that.
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I'm going to go to a fire department meeting once you get it.
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Tommy, can you turn that off? Just that one.
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You getting chilly?
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That's worse.
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Shut it off. You got that one on.
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Thank you.
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There you go.
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Patience is a virtue, Vincent.
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I got it.
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Most of you folks here because of the school board.
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I think they're here for this.
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That's it.
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Okay.
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We'll start with the agenda.
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We have a third reading for the grade one work for Hop-Hop School District, second reading
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for the Rotary Club of Smith Town Growth of the Green, we have a building department
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report which is on file in the town clerk's office for anyone's perusal,
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and an advertisement
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for public hearing.
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The town board to authorize a clerk to advertise for public hearing to be held on Tuesday
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day in Smithtown Town Hall to consider zoning petition 2016A on the town
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ward's own motion to amend conditions of a change of zone petition 9202 to
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increase the maximum floor area of development from 504,000 square feet
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to 520,000 square feet and to increase the generation of wastewater from
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I met some undergallons, so I had some undergallons
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to be all said by a sterilization of a tax map plot.
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Who's here on that BF?
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It's an advertisement.
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Just for the advertisement.
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Councilwoman Inserola?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Wellheim?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman McCarthy?
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Yes.
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Supervisor Vakia?
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Yes.
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Town Board Worker-Wiser Clerk who advertised for public hearing
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to be held at Town City, Town, Town Hall.
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On the 13th day of December 2016
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at 2 p.m. to consider proposed amendments to Chapter 322 of the Code of the Town, entitled
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zoning.
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Councilwoman Inzuella?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Warehouse?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman McCarthy?
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Yes.
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Supervisor Betier?
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Yes.
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Town Board to Authorizer Cloak?
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Town Board of Advocations following bits will be returned to Town Hall on the date
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indicated, bit number 16, one away, articulating 10 of them were used on December 8, 2016
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has put a capital budget.
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Councilor Minnis?
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Councilor Minnis Zarela?
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Yes.
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Councilor Wareheim?
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Yes.
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Councilor McCarty?
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Yes.
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Supervisor Vecchio?
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Yes.
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Time Board to work the following bids and to authorize purchase of Associated Grouping
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Services, a bid for ten-wheel trucks with dump bodies and plows to gather rally truck
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sales has put a bid opening on October 27th.
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Councilor Minnis Zarela?
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Yes.
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Councilor Wareheim?
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Yes.
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Councilor McCarty?
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Yes.
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Supervisor Vecchio?
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Yes.
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Town Board is to do studying deliberation and subject-directed
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to issue a negative declaration of determination of non-significant in the following matters.
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The application for densely flow rides on Corko's Hill Preserve dated November 7, 2016.
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Councilwoman Linsavala?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Wareharn?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman McCarthy?
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Yes.
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Supervisor Vecchio?
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Yes.
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town board to approve the minutes of the regular night meeting September 22nd 2016 7 p.m.
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annual animal shelter surplus in kind donations, amended lists of local non-profit organizations
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to receive surplus in kind animal shelter donations, town clerk to issue a parade run
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walk, permit to the High Park School District for 5K Family One, the designation of Empire
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National Bank as an official depository of the town of Smithtown for the tax receiver.
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The sole assessor in the town attorney's office to enter into the stipulations of settlement
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and consent to the entry of orders will regard to various small claims assessment review
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proceedings for the tax year 2016-17, not to exceed 25%, and for the recommendation
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of the sole assessor and town attorney.
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County Attorney or appropriate official to enter into the stabilization of servants or
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agreement and consent to the entry of the order with regard to various tax social aid matters,
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but the attached list for various tax years, but a recommendation to solo assessor in the
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County Attorney.
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The sale of one-density floor rights and sending parcel 800-129-161 to receiving
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18-possible 800-135-4-10, item G of the agenda, H, Donald P. Musnug, Kathy Cora, Paul Rebano,
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to attend Long Island GFOA seminar, I, Education Specialist,
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and Supervisor Sue Hinton's two-handed
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three-hour seminar, J, the approval of TDFR number PR-16, focus will preserve and transfer
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to density flow rights, K, the Highway Department to purchase four six-wheel dump trucks
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with bodies and three plows from Long Island Freightliner L Highway Department to Purchase
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Utility Tractor in Flare Mowers or Long Island Equipment M Highway Department to Purchase
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Zero Turn Radius Mower from Long Island Equipment and Highway Department to Purchase Brine Generator
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System from Long Island Sanitation Equipment O Highway Department to Purchase 4 Ton Hot
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Ton Asphalt Patcher from Trius Inc. The adoption of Year 43 Community Development
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as proposed by Memo Reina from the Planning Director.
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Q, amend 2016 capital budget for purchase of various equipment
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or the purchase of the Electronic Imaging Service
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from New York State Industries for the Disabled
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and S, cancellation of agreement with Community Energy Inc.
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Councilwoman Insarala?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Wareheim?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman McQuarty?
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Yes.
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Supervisor Becker?
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Number five, LWRP, town board issue,
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a written consistency determination of chapter 151
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of the Town Code that application 2016-12 of the Town Code.
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Council Member Smith Town. One Beach Road paving village of Nesquagga is consistent with LWRP
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for reasons stated in the memorandum November 15, 2016.
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Memorandum for the town planning director. Council Member Nunzovallo. Yes.
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Council Member Wareharn. Yes. Council Member Calati. Yes.
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Supervisor. Yes. Aye, number six, the town board, authorize the acceptance of six A and B.
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Donations in letter of credit. Council Member Nunzovallo. Yes.
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Council Member Wareharn. Yes. Council Member Calati. Yes.
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Yes.
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At number seven, the town board that authorizes the release of the following is for 7A Valley
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National Bank.
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Yes, she has checked.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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At number nine, the town board has approved settlement and following matters for recommendation
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of the town attorney at number nine A for the amount of $1,521.18.
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Zavala.
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Councilwoman Wareheim.
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Yes.
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Councilwoman McCarthy.
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Yes.
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Supervisor.
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Yes.
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At number 10, the town board authorizes the supervisor to execute the following
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on form approved by the town attorney as to pretend A, B, and C in agreement and
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agreement and specialized service agreement.
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Councilwoman Zavala.
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Wareheim.
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Yes.
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Councilor McCarthy.
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Yes.
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Supervisor Veccher.
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Under personnel item number 11,
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the town board to approve the following personnel matters,
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that's for 11 A, B, C, D, E, and F,
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and they are a change of title,
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a part time appointment, part time appointment,
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part time appointment, full time appointment,
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and a full time appointment.
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Other printer agenda items.
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Councilor Winans-Roller.
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Yes.
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Councilor Browner.
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Yes.
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Councilor McCarthy.
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Yes.
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Supervisor Veccher.
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Almost closed a regular meeting
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and the City's Board of Water Commissioners.
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Supervisor Becquieu.
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Councilor McCarty.
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Yes.
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Councilor Warehaan.
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Yes.
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Councilor Momenon-Zarella.
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Yes.
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Pursuant to section 3312-12, subsection B of Article 4 of Chapter 312, 312 of the code of the town,
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and in accordance with the increase by the Suffolk County Water Authority of the race,
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which it charges to the Smith County Water District and to the St. James Water District
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that effective January 1, 2017, the water rates in the Smithtown Water District and the same change
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water district will be increased to 208 per 1,000 gallons from the existing rate of 1.976.
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Councilor McMillan-Zovella? Yes.
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Councilor Weiharm? Yes.
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Councilor McCarty? Yes.
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Supervisor Vecchia? Almost to close the water board meeting.
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Supervisor Vecchia? Yes.
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Councilor McCarty? Yes.
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Councilor McMillan-Zovella? Yes.
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I was hoping I would be first, but I just wanted to say thank you for allowing me to
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speak.
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I'm just here to find out about the Selden New York Avenue School and ask this of it.
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Okay, very good question.
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The school district is very non-transparent.
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Oh, and I want to thank you for your lovely quote.
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Oh, thank you.
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So as of now, no application has been filed.
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No plans have been filed with the planning department.
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And if and when they are, the town will hold a public hearing.
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Most likely it's a senior center to accommodate the crowd.
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And then people will be heard there for or against.
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And it's very important that you do come to that meeting to express your support or non-support.
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and should the application require an environmental impact statement,
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all those statements will be processed through that plan.
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Okay, now who pays for all that?
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Like for all the environmental services?
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The town?
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No, the applicant.
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Wonderful.
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The town collects fees for the processing of the application.
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Okay, but they have to do all the service and all that.
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So if all of you are interested in that issue,
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You can observe the signs that will go up posting the date and time of the hearing.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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Thank you very much.
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Anthony, I'm not reading the words very well.
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Anthony Malmo?
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Yeah, literally.
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Okay, thank you.
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Okay.
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Same thing?
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No.
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Okay, wishing to be heard.
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Matt Hetler.
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Good evening.
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Supervisor Becquiao, the Town Council.
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My name is Matt Heller, Six Stanley Plays,
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Hopog, New York, H-E-T-T-L-E-R.
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I'm joined with my wife Debbie,
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we're residents for 22 years on Stanley Place.
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I'm here tonight to talk to you about a petition
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that was filed with the town on behalf of the residents
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of Stanley Place and the surrounding community
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about no parking signs that were installed
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on our block at the end of August.
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And I have the petitions here.
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I actually submitted them to the town on October 11th, but I have copies for every one of you.
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Would you like to have them?
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Welcome to the clerk, please.
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What is the issue?
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Well, the real issue is that I came home the end of August.
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There were markouts in the street.
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I lived and I'm joined by a number of my neighbors here.
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Yeah, we're all here together. So the bottom line is this, thank you. I came home late
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August and much of my surprise, I found markouts in the street. Two feet from my driveway, I
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have a picture of it, and I live between the residential park entrance to Pinecone Park
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So here is a picture of the street. I don't know if you can really see it, but there was a white mark out.
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Sure, there's a white mark out that is two feet from my driveway, my apron.
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So I went down to the traffic department and I inquired as to what these white markouts were.
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And I was told that on August 9th, the board approved no parking signs without our knowledge.
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Again, two feet from the apron of my driveway, and no one notified me.
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And no one notified every single person on Stanley Place, which I find offensive.
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So that's the issue.
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And so at the end of the day, I was told that we have no position whatsoever
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because it was already approved by the town so we couldn't stop the process.
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There was one gentleman in the traffic department that was extremely nice, and he was very sympathetic.
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And what he said to me was, well, let me see what I can do to at least give you your parking spot at the end of your driveway.
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Well, what he did, although it was very admirable, is he shifted the signs, if you can see it.
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One sign is now located at the entrance of the pathway to the park, which I think is dangerous if kids combine down on a bike.
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And what they did is they shifted the sign across onto my neighbor's property.
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These are an eyesore to the block. They shouldn't be there.
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So now the question...
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Was the reason I remember this letter or the petition that was sent,
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the reason that the sign was in school was to allow the occupant of the residents to exit her driveway?
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Yes.
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Is that the reason?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So first and foremost...
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You're out of time. I took your time. So thank you. Okay. Thank you. And maybe collectively we can add their time
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So what I like you can't do that. All right
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Can I show you a 10-second video? Yes, this is just to address that claim that the resident can't get out of their driveway
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I
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don't know if you can really see it
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Not so good from now
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This is her car which is 35 years old
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She backs out. She has no issue getting out of her driveway
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Okay. She doesn't come across the street. Okay. And so on.
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Further, while that is stated November 1st, I can tell you and every resident here can tell you that this resident across the street leaves her house on average three to four times a month.
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Her claim to the traffic department was that she was a prisoner in her own home. Okay.
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So, wait, I just want to say. So that was misleading. So the town basically had a deal
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with one resident, never notified the residents, and that's why we're here tonight.
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Okay. Well, let me just explain the process. All these things that we read tonight are submitted by department heads.
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Each of us review what the application or the resolution is before we're going to vote on it.
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When we did a resolution to put up a parking sign or a stop sign, we read that and we kind
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of agree with it because it's recommended by the traffic department.
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We're none of us are traffic experts.
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So we'll make inquiry.
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As a result of the meeting here, we'll talk to the traffic department.
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With all due respect, that already happened with Councilwoman Insorello.
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She went and met with them and I don't need to speak on your behalf.
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But here's the real kicker.
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We were told that by the traffic director that he is not budging on it
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because the person says that she can't get out of her driveway.
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I just proved to you that she can.
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I'm telling you that she doesn't leave her house for three or four times a month.
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On top of that, she harasses the people on the block.
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Let me ask you a question, Mr. Heather.
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Getting out of your driveway three or four times a month could still cause an accident. Possible?
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Not just for two years.
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Not 50 years. Absolutely not.
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All right. Good enough. Come on. All right. We'll take it up with the traffic.
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But that that already happened. So we'll take it up again.
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We're not going to resolve it here tonight.
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Anthony, April,
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he can speak this afternoon. He got three minutes.
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Good evening. Um,
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I agree with everything that the Mr.
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Hathaway, Mrs. Attler said. Um, one thing I want to add, um,
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you did bring up that it could be a safety issue those three or four times
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that she would pull out of her driveway.
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I feel in community of that area feels that it's a safety concern because now
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cars are forced to park park on the north side and there's a bend in Stanley
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Place. I have a picture here that I'll submit. So there's a bend in that road, so now anybody coming
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east or west on Stanley Place is a tremendous wine spot. So now coming around that bend
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you cannot see what's coming from the other side of Stanley Place. So I feel
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and the community members feel that the opinion of one was taken and the safety of the community,
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I think.
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Who's the liaison to the traffic department on a board?
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You are?
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Okay.
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Well, you'll discuss it next day or toward you and the traffic director and me.
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Okay?
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Christopher Susner?
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Speaking of the same point.
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Same point.
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Okay.
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Good.
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Thank you.
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You live on the corner of Stanley and Sandra. My name is Christopher Duffner. I live at 18
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Sandra Drive in Hopon. Right on the corner of Stanley and Sandra. The corner of my property
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is about 50 or 60 feet from where these signs were placed. My children have been, my children
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use the sidewalk to enter that park. It's a pedestrian entryway. Parking in front of
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that pedestrian entryway has nothing whatsoever to do with being able to get in or out of the park.
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The precedent that's being set here is that anyone who feels they can't back out of their driveway
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safely can have signs put up across the street from their driveway prohibiting parking.
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That's the dangerous precedent that's being set here.
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A couple of months ago, I commented to my wife when we went for a neighborhood that was with much smaller roads than ours, how lucky you were to have such wide roadways.
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I have a 20-foot boat trailer that I pulled in and out of my driveway for many years without any problem.
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Saying I had a pop-up trailer that I had 20 feet at the same thing.
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I never had a problem backing that inner-out of my driveway.
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But again, the precedent that's being set here has nothing to do with this parking lot.
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What is the issue with the people who forced the park around the corner because of that sign?
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Is that the issue?
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The issue is, why is there no parking sign there all of a sudden after 40 years?
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Because one person claims they have a problem backing out of their driveway.
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Well, how does that sign offend you? That's my question.
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What it's a precedent that's been set, there's a similar entryway to the park on Sheila Drive.
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There are no parking signs there.
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This is because one person said they can't back out of the driveway.
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Okay.
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I think that's a dangerous precedent.
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Well, it's not a precedent.
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That's generally.
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Okay.
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We'll look into it.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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John Zolo, you can speak, well you didn't sign in, that's why I don't, but no I don't
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have it.
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What did you mean?
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Okay, it's here.
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It's here.
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Mr. Sonsari, please come up.
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Sorry, Mrs. Ola.
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No, sir, public hearing is a town hall.
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Anybody can speak.
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All right, thank you, and congratulations for your triple-A bond radio.
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My wife and I moved into Smithtown in July of 1967 on to Stanley Place. It was a dirt road. There were no streets. There were no curbs. There was no park. There were just trees.
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We were naive enough to believe a salesperson from Hillside Terrace that it was a bird sanctuary.
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And around 1970, when the bulldozers came to knock down the trees and build a park from Mr. Fitzpatrick,
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who was giving it to the Hop-Hop Little League and where Smithtown students couldn't play
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because they didn't belong to Hop-Hop, yet this park was surrounded by Smithtown students
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who couldn't play baseball in the Hop-Hop Little League because they lived in Smithtown.
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Now you know the whole story.
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Sure.
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I mean, when we moved in, you were probably pounding a beat in the city.
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I don't know what that...
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Well, maybe you were a teenager.
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Also, I think too much.
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All right.
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So anyway, the curves went in, the park was developed and there were no fences
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and thanks to Mr. Valentine and under your guidance I think we had the code
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enforcement and we got rid of a lot of junk that was hanging out in the park
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and we put fences up and we put you know the park was brought under control and
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now I have in front of my house and I'll show you a picture because of the
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neighbor across the street a part no parking sign in front of my house that was
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greeted to me when I came home from the hospital after having major
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surgery it's right it's in front of my house okay it's not in the front of
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Park entrance. This is in front of my house. So I'll submit that picture. Thank you
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for coming in.
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We would give a note on this. I have pictures of the malls where the park signs were supposed to be,
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and you will see that they were not put where the traffic department said they were supposed to be.
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They were shifting. They were shifting to accommodate somebody who said they couldn't back out of their drive-in.
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Our streets are very wide. As Chris said, you could back a boat trailer out of there.
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So here's the marks that were. OK, but also I just want to make a point.
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All of these resolutions we read tonight, some of them are paying taxes for some and you're not.
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They are submitted by department heads or expert in their fields.
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So when the traffic director was a traffic engineer,
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here, submits a resolution to implement a control, a traffic control. We take it that
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he is an expert in the field. We don't go out and look at it. So now, if you're here,
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we'll take it up with him and see what we can do.
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Well, by the way, here's a picture of the driveway in question of the person who said
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they can't bag a day's driveway. You could make a U-turn in here with a trailer.
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Okay. Fair enough.
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Okay.
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Thank you so much. Mr. Zola. Thank you.
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That's a pretty big drop.
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Oh, it came from somewhere.
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We need the Miss Suvaz members of the town board.
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My name is John Zola, 169 Hickory Lane, Smith Town.
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Just first of all, I guess what happens here with the street sign is it's nice to know that people come here and have their voices heard.
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That's a good thing. And that's what democracy and government is about.
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But I wanted to applaud the Kings Park Chamber to come forward with a conceptual plan for the Kings Park community.
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And I think the town board has an opportunity to run with that and work with the Kings Park community
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and also bring in the Smith Town downtown and work with their vision to revitalize the downtowns in Kings Park and Smith Town.
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Recently, the Newsday had an article that talked about the Smithtown School District
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selling their property for 13 acres, and the flip side of that Newsday article was a story
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about the North Port getting a $2 million fund to do sewers for the Village of North
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Port.
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And I thought it was interesting to jump to the position.
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Here you have a Smithtown who has a downtown, people have been crying out for sewers in
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Smithtown and in Kings Park, and for some action and proactivity on the part of
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of Smithtown, which really hasn't happened, and Northport Village is getting funding just
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like Patchouli has in Bayshore.
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I think you need to open up a dialogue with the Kings Park Chamber, the Smithtown Chamber,
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and while you have the color piece of property across the street, you also have the Smithtown
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School property.
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Don't let it be an opportunity lost for the town of Smithtown to come with a plan
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that would bring all those together and hopefully revitalize and rejuvenate our
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downtown.
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town. Mark Van Cien just happens to be here, who's come up with numerous plans and ideas
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conceptual to work to develop and bring our town into the 21st century. So I think this
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board needs to be proactive. Maybe you should consider having more work sessions where you
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have the plan director, the apartment environment and waterways person, the building director
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and the town board sit and talk about what the vision is for this town. Don't means
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law is nice, it gives opportunities to people to see what goes on in government.
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My just looking grief for there hasn't been a work session in the town of Smithtown,
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an open work session in about four months.
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A lot of government is going on now behind closed doors.
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So bring it out to the people, let them know what's going on, let them be heard.
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Work for the future of the town of Smithtown.
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And I think Tony Tansy and the Kings Park Chamber should be applauded for taking that step.
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Don't let that be a wasted step.
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Thank you.
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Is that in order?
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It's a request, I think it's good for the town.
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I like it in the form of a request.
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Thank you.
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Victoria Fjordstein?
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This is a request.
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I represent a group of Smithtown residents who are interested in creating an area for the dogs to run behind the dog shelter.
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Our group believes this is so important that we're willing to fund the entire thing and raise the money.
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We started this discussion with Sue Hanson, probably February.
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And then I spoke to Councilwoman Insorello, and thank you for that.
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You directed me in the right spot. You directed me to the liaison.
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Councilwoman Noak. We met with Councilwoman Noak in May.
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And just recently, Councilman Wilhelm, thank you very much.
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I discussed this with you on the phone.
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What we're trying to do is that there's an area behind the shelter.
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I'm pretty sure you know it, but I do, although I've walked through it many times.
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It's about 100 by 100, and we want to buy the fencing and whatever other money it costs
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there is to create this area for the dogs.
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I know, if I may call you Lisa, I know you visited the shelter,
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and you're very familiar with it, and you know the size of the pens.
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And I know the age of the place and that the cement there is really old and when they have to wash it every morning
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it doesn't dry for a very long time.
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And these dogs are basically, some of these dogs have been, one of these dogs has been there for four years.
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Some of these dogs, too, three years.
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So they may get walked on a leash.
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You know, they may go out and out to a pen for a little bit.
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But they really, you know, they're not our dogs at home that have the cozy life and they have their backyard
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and they get walked whenever it's appropriate or an opportunity for them.
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This is a humane issue to us.
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And I know that there's been some discussions about including this in the renovations.
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But we're here to respectfully request that since we're willing to do this work as Smidtown residents raise this money,
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that we do this now because when the renovations happen,
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as I've been in the public arena my entire career,
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I know that there are things that happen to well-intentioned promises,
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things that happen because of things that are more important suddenly
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or the agenda switches.
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And these thoughts really shouldn't have to wait anyway,
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even if this promise does happen to include it in the renovations.
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They need this now.
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And if we have residents who are willing to go beat the bushes
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for every dime, we respectfully, you know, ask you.
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You've met with Mrs. Nolik?
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Yes, in May.
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And what was the result of that conversation?
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At the time, we believed that there was a possibility of getting the scrubby,
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I call it the scrubby brush area, right behind the thing, fenced in.
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But I haven't heard anything since then.
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Well, is there another question that that might interfere with the fire,
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Is there a fire matter track with the fireman practice?
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No, sir, it's not.
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Okay.
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No, we totally would not want to interfere with that area.
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We're looking for it, okay?
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May I ask one question?
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Sure.
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Since we've kind of impatient, we feel like we're kind of spinning our wheels.
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What happens?
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Do we need to do a petition?
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No, no, no.
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We'll make note of it.
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We'll take it up with Mrs. Nowick and Sue Hanson.
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And then somebody will get back to us?
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Well, you could call me in a week or two.
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I'll call you in a week or two. Thank you very much.
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Okay, that concludes everybody who wants to speak.
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So I'll move to close the meeting.
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Thank you.
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Supervisor Beck, yes?
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Councilman McCartney?
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Yes.
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Councilman Wareheim?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Zarella?
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Yes.
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Thank you all.