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[0:00] Councilman McCarthy. Yeah. Councilman Wareheim. Here. Councilwoman Inzarella. Here.
[0:14] We have a very
[0:14] late-night agenda here, so I'm aware that there are people here who want to present a plan for downtown
[0:20] King's Park, and then we could use the law and leave as you like, and we will go through the
[0:25] agenda. So somebody's going to make the presentation. Right up there you have some
[0:31] platforms.
[0:34] Linda Henninger,
[0:38] Anthony Tanji, and James Longo. Please be guarded by the three-minute rule, please, in the presentation.
[0:49] Good evening, Supervisor Vacchio and Town Board members. My name is Linda Henninger, and I represent the Kings Park Civic Association.
[0:56] The Civic Association, along with the Kings Park Chamber of Commerce and Kings Park Community members, is here tonight to present to the Town Board
[1:03] the Kings Park Community's downtown vision plan.
[1:06] It was a little over a year ago, the Civic Association, the Chamber came together to discuss the need for revitalization of our communities downtown.
[1:14] In an effort to facilitate a community-based plan, we hired Vision Long Island, a regional planning organization.
[1:20] Immediately thereafter, we met with the leaders of almost every community group in Kings Park to discuss the idea of creating a plan that would reflect the needs and wants of the entire community.
[1:30] These groups include Kings Park Central School District, Kings Park Fire Department,
[1:36] Fort Salonga Association, San Remo Civic Association, the VFW,
[1:41] the American Legion, Kings Park Youth, Kings Park Soccer,
[1:44] St. Joseph's COIO, and the Nisquab River State Park Foundation.
[1:48] After this, we held two town-wide workshops and a final meeting
[1:52] which elicited community ideas, hopes, and horrors
[1:55] regarding revitalizing our downtown.
[1:57] turn out participation was tremendous. The Civic Association in the Chamber also held several
[2:03] smaller meetings throughout the year eliciting input. Additionally, a social media site was
[2:08] created which encouraged continued input. We are confident in stating that the document we present
[2:13] tonight represents the participation of thousands of community residents. The process was
[2:19] transparent, engaging and very positive. I'd now like to introduce Tony Tansy, President
[2:25] the Chamber of Commerce to discuss the results of the undertaking. Thank you very much.
[2:35] Thank you, Linda. Good evening, Mr. Supervisor,
[2:38] member of the Town Board, members of the Town Board. I would like to start out by
[2:42] thanking each and every one of you for indulging us this evening and giving us the opportunity
[2:46] to present you with this plan. You've all been given the planets actually
[2:50] on the table for, and I think some of you already see that. As Linda said,
[2:55] this was a grassroots effort that gave everyone in our community
[2:58] the chance to be heard and to have their ideas incorporated.
[3:02] If there's one thing about our vision process, it taught us that the Kings Park community is very willing to share its opinion.
[3:09] Now, while our plan is not official and that it was not produced by any government entity, it does have two key elements.
[3:16] One, it had a lot of public engagement, and two, it was prepared by professional planners.
[3:22] Now, one of the things this process has shown, without a shadow of a doubt, is that King's Park has tremendous potential.
[3:28] However, in order to achieve that potential, King's Park needs sewers. This plan is the first step in helping us get them.
[3:35] We also want to be very clear that we're not asking you to do this for us.
[3:39] We want to be absolutely clear we are willing to help.
[3:43] The entire King's Park community is committed to doing whatever it takes to see that our downtown becomes the downtown that it can be.
[3:51] We the Kings Park community respectfully request that you take some time to review it and please
[3:56] adopt this plan by town board resolution as a conceptual blueprint for the future of Kings
[4:00] Park. I thank you, the Kings Park Chamber of Commerce thanks you, the Kings Park Civic
[4:05] Association thanks you, and the Kings Park community as a whole thanks you. Thank you very
[4:09] much. Thank you. Thank you.
[4:13] The one thing we have Trudy Fitzsimmons who was a representative,
[4:16] She's also a resident of Kings Park, but she's a representative from Vision Long Island who created the plan.
[4:22] She was just going to go into a couple of the elements so that she can kind of paraphrase it.
[4:26] Thank you.
[4:32] Please give me your phone name and address so we don't have to.
[4:34] Oh, we have it here.
[4:35] You got it?
[4:36] Okay, great.
[4:37] Thank you.
[4:38] Thank you very much, and thank you for your attention this evening.
[4:41] My name is Trudy Fitzsimons.
[4:42] I'm co-chair of Vision Long Island, and I'm a very happy resident of Kings Park.
[4:46] Thank you for the opportunity to talk about this plan in October.
[4:51] As Linda said, they had a visiting and the community came together and told us what they wanted to see
[4:57] and what they hoped for and what might be possible in their view.
[5:01] And we took some experts and got together and gave them a plan
[5:06] that from something as simple as putting, lighting the streets and further on.
[5:15] The action plan was put together based on input from hundreds of residents and businesses and property owners, town and civic and Chamber of Commerce folks.
[5:25] In addition to an overall concept, it contains recommendations for improvements in walkability, enhancing character and zoning modifications, and public space improvements.
[5:37] The recommendations include short, medium, and long-term strategies.
[5:41] The design team who have translated all of the community input into a cohesive plan includes Alyssa Kyle of Vision, David Burrb from DLB Consulting,
[5:52] Dean Gowan and Alan Giantesimo and Wendell and Glenn Chirveny from GRCH Architects.
[6:01] Vision would also like to thank Linda Heninger and Sean Layman from the Kings Park Civic Association,
[6:07] Tony Tansy and Adam Wood from Kings Park Chamber of Commerce and all of the different groups
[6:12] who participated. We're very thankful and we like to concentrate on local and have local participation.
[6:21] That's where you get the best results. And everyone who wants to see something can be included as best we can.
[6:29] So thank you very much for your time and attention and we hope this will go forward. Thank you.
[6:35] Thank you.
[6:36] Is this plan presented to our planning department, Mr. Tansy?
[6:40] We, actually that was one of the things I wanted to bring up was, and I forgot.
[6:44] This process also includes the planning department.
[6:47] The planning department was...
[6:49] Okay.
[6:50] And just to keep it a sense of...
[6:52] Sorry about that.
[6:53] Vision had met with the planning department on two separate occasions
[6:56] to make sure that everything that is in this plan does not conflict
[6:59] with the master plan that's currently working on it.
[7:01] Good.
[7:01] Thank you.
[7:03] Mr. Long, would you like to be heard?
[7:12] Thank you. I'll only take a moment.
[7:14] I haven't had an opportunity to read the plan or really discuss it in any detail.
[7:19] I had met on occasion with Tony to review some of the items that he was including.
[7:27] My one concern that I'd just like to make sure is covered is that if you're going to be soaring the central business zone,
[7:35] I wanted to just make sure that that will also include the Pulaski Road from basically
[7:42] Comac Road all the way down to Main Street.
[7:46] There's several businesses there starting with Speedway in 7-Eleven and Dunkin' Docks.
[7:51] We can run through the whole thing.
[7:52] And I just encourage the town, if you're going to adopt it, adopt it and be all-inclusive
[7:57] of the central business zone.
[8:00] Okay.
[8:00] Thank you.
[8:03] That's it on the vision of the island. Thank you so much for coming.
[8:12] We're going to read the agenda now.
[8:15] Yes. I told you all here to praise us for the triple-A bond we're in the time to achieve.
[8:23] Right now, sir.
[8:25] Give
[8:31] you a couple of chocolate kisses.
[8:33] Yes, thank you. Thank you.
[8:36] Work your way. Thank you, Mr. Bucket.
[8:39] Thank you.
[8:46] Jack, you're going to sit and watch those characters, is that what you said?
[8:51] He said that.
[8:55] I'm going to go to a fire department meeting once you get it.
[8:59] Tommy, can you turn that off? Just that one.
[9:03] You getting chilly?
[9:09] That's worse.
[9:11] Shut it off. You got that one on.
[9:14] Thank you.
[9:15] There you go.
[9:17] Patience is a virtue, Vincent.
[9:18] I got it.
[9:19] Most of you folks here because of the school board.
[9:24] I think they're here for this.
[9:28] That's it.
[9:29] Okay.
[9:32] We'll start with the agenda.
[9:35] We have a third reading for the grade one work for Hop-Hop School District, second reading
[9:41] for the Rotary Club of Smith Town Growth of the Green, we have a building department
[9:45] report which is on file in the town clerk's office for anyone's perusal,
[9:55] and an advertisement
[9:56] for public hearing.
[9:57] The town board to authorize a clerk to advertise for public hearing to be held on Tuesday
[10:01] day in Smithtown Town Hall to consider zoning petition 2016A on the town
[10:09] ward's own motion to amend conditions of a change of zone petition 9202 to
[10:15] increase the maximum floor area of development from 504,000 square feet
[10:22] to 520,000 square feet and to increase the generation of wastewater from
[10:29] I met some undergallons, so I had some undergallons
[10:32] to be all said by a sterilization of a tax map plot.
[10:36] Who's here on that BF?
[10:38] It's an advertisement.
[10:39] Just for the advertisement.
[10:41] Councilwoman Inserola?
[10:43] Yes.
[10:43] Councilwoman Wellheim?
[10:44] Yes.
[10:45] Councilwoman McCarthy?
[10:46] Yes.
[10:46] Supervisor Vakia?
[10:47] Yes.
[10:48] Town Board Worker-Wiser Clerk who advertised for public hearing
[10:51] to be held at Town City, Town, Town Hall.
[10:56] On the 13th day of December 2016
[10:58] at 2 p.m. to consider proposed amendments to Chapter 322 of the Code of the Town, entitled
[11:05] zoning.
[11:06] Councilwoman Inzuella?
[11:07] Yes.
[11:08] Councilwoman Warehouse?
[11:09] Yes.
[11:10] Councilwoman McCarthy?
[11:10] Yes.
[11:11] Supervisor Betier?
[11:12] Yes.
[11:12] Town Board to Authorizer Cloak?
[11:14] Town Board of Advocations following bits will be returned to Town Hall on the date
[11:19] indicated, bit number 16, one away, articulating 10 of them were used on December 8, 2016
[11:28] has put a capital budget.
[11:30] Councilor Minnis?
[11:31] Councilor Minnis Zarela?
[11:32] Yes.
[11:32] Councilor Wareheim?
[11:33] Yes.
[11:34] Councilor McCarty?
[11:35] Yes.
[11:35] Supervisor Vecchio?
[11:36] Yes.
[11:37] Time Board to work the following bids and to authorize purchase of Associated Grouping
[11:41] Services, a bid for ten-wheel trucks with dump bodies and plows to gather rally truck
[11:46] sales has put a bid opening on October 27th.
[11:50] Councilor Minnis Zarela?
[11:51] Yes.
[11:51] Councilor Wareheim?
[11:52] Yes.
[11:53] Councilor McCarty?
[11:53] Yes.
[11:54] Supervisor Vecchio?
[11:55] Yes.
[11:55] Town Board is to do studying deliberation and subject-directed
[11:59] to issue a negative declaration of determination of non-significant in the following matters.
[12:04] The application for densely flow rides on Corko's Hill Preserve dated November 7, 2016.
[12:11] Councilwoman Linsavala?
[12:13] Yes.
[12:13] Councilwoman Wareharn?
[12:14] Yes.
[12:14] Councilwoman McCarthy?
[12:15] Yes.
[12:15] Supervisor Vecchio?
[12:17] Yes.
[12:17] town board to approve the minutes of the regular night meeting September 22nd 2016 7 p.m.
[12:25] annual animal shelter surplus in kind donations, amended lists of local non-profit organizations
[12:31] to receive surplus in kind animal shelter donations, town clerk to issue a parade run
[12:37] walk, permit to the High Park School District for 5K Family One, the designation of Empire
[12:43] National Bank as an official depository of the town of Smithtown for the tax receiver.
[12:50] The sole assessor in the town attorney's office to enter into the stipulations of settlement
[12:55] and consent to the entry of orders will regard to various small claims assessment review
[12:59] proceedings for the tax year 2016-17, not to exceed 25%, and for the recommendation
[13:06] of the sole assessor and town attorney.
[13:10] County Attorney or appropriate official to enter into the stabilization of servants or
[13:14] agreement and consent to the entry of the order with regard to various tax social aid matters,
[13:20] but the attached list for various tax years, but a recommendation to solo assessor in the
[13:26] County Attorney.
[13:27] The sale of one-density floor rights and sending parcel 800-129-161 to receiving
[13:33] 18-possible 800-135-4-10, item G of the agenda, H, Donald P. Musnug, Kathy Cora, Paul Rebano,
[13:42] to attend Long Island GFOA seminar, I, Education Specialist,
[13:49] and Supervisor Sue Hinton's two-handed
[13:50] three-hour seminar, J, the approval of TDFR number PR-16, focus will preserve and transfer
[13:57] to density flow rights, K, the Highway Department to purchase four six-wheel dump trucks
[14:02] with bodies and three plows from Long Island Freightliner L Highway Department to Purchase
[14:08] Utility Tractor in Flare Mowers or Long Island Equipment M Highway Department to Purchase
[14:13] Zero Turn Radius Mower from Long Island Equipment and Highway Department to Purchase Brine Generator
[14:18] System from Long Island Sanitation Equipment O Highway Department to Purchase 4 Ton Hot
[14:23] Ton Asphalt Patcher from Trius Inc. The adoption of Year 43 Community Development
[14:29] as proposed by Memo Reina from the Planning Director.
[14:32] Q, amend 2016 capital budget for purchase of various equipment
[14:36] or the purchase of the Electronic Imaging Service
[14:38] from New York State Industries for the Disabled
[14:41] and S, cancellation of agreement with Community Energy Inc.
[14:45] Councilwoman Insarala?
[14:46] Yes.
[14:46] Councilwoman Wareheim?
[14:47] Yes.
[14:48] Councilwoman McQuarty?
[14:49] Yes.
[14:49] Supervisor Becker?
[14:51] Number five, LWRP, town board issue,
[14:54] a written consistency determination of chapter 151
[14:56] of the Town Code that application 2016-12 of the Town Code.
[15:00] Council Member Smith Town. One Beach Road paving village of Nesquagga is consistent with LWRP
[15:04] for reasons stated in the memorandum November 15, 2016.
[15:08] Memorandum for the town planning director. Council Member Nunzovallo. Yes.
[15:11] Council Member Wareharn. Yes. Council Member Calati. Yes.
[15:14] Supervisor. Yes. Aye, number six, the town board, authorize the acceptance of six A and B.
[15:20] Donations in letter of credit. Council Member Nunzovallo. Yes.
[15:23] Council Member Wareharn. Yes. Council Member Calati. Yes.
[15:26] Yes.
[15:27] At number seven, the town board that authorizes the release of the following is for 7A Valley
[15:31] National Bank.
[15:33] Yes, she has checked.
[15:34] Yes.
[15:36] Yes.
[15:37] Yes.
[15:40] Yes.
[15:40] Yes.
[15:41] Yes.
[15:43] Yes.
[15:44] Yes.
[15:50] Yes.
[15:51] Yes.
[15:54] Yes.
[15:56] At number nine, the town board has approved settlement and following matters for recommendation
[15:59] of the town attorney at number nine A for the amount of $1,521.18.
[16:05] Yes.
[16:05] Councilwoman Zavala.
[16:06] Councilwoman Wareheim.
[16:07] Yes.
[16:08] Councilwoman McCarthy.
[16:09] Yes.
[16:09] Supervisor.
[16:10] Yes.
[16:10] At number 10, the town board authorizes the supervisor to execute the following
[16:13] on form approved by the town attorney as to pretend A, B, and C in agreement and
[16:18] agreement and specialized service agreement.
[16:20] Councilwoman Zavala.
[16:21] Yes.
[16:22] Councilwoman Wareheim.
[16:22] Yes.
[16:23] Councilor McCarthy.
[16:24] Yes.
[16:24] Supervisor Veccher.
[16:26] Under personnel item number 11,
[16:27] the town board to approve the following personnel matters,
[16:30] that's for 11 A, B, C, D, E, and F,
[16:34] and they are a change of title,
[16:36] a part time appointment, part time appointment,
[16:38] part time appointment, full time appointment,
[16:39] and a full time appointment.
[16:40] Other printer agenda items.
[16:42] Councilor Winans-Roller.
[16:43] Yes.
[16:43] Councilor Browner.
[16:44] Yes.
[16:45] Councilor McCarthy.
[16:46] Yes.
[16:46] Supervisor Veccher.
[16:48] Almost closed a regular meeting
[16:50] and the City's Board of Water Commissioners.
[16:52] Supervisor Becquieu.
[16:54] Councilor McCarty.
[16:55] Yes.
[16:55] Councilor Warehaan.
[16:56] Yes.
[16:56] Councilor Momenon-Zarella.
[16:57] Yes.
[16:58] Pursuant to section 3312-12, subsection B of Article 4 of Chapter 312, 312 of the code of the town,
[17:07] and in accordance with the increase by the Suffolk County Water Authority of the race,
[17:12] which it charges to the Smith County Water District and to the St. James Water District
[17:16] that effective January 1, 2017, the water rates in the Smithtown Water District and the same change
[17:23] water district will be increased to 208 per 1,000 gallons from the existing rate of 1.976.
[17:32] Councilor McMillan-Zovella? Yes.
[17:34] Councilor Weiharm? Yes.
[17:35] Councilor McCarty? Yes.
[17:36] Supervisor Vecchia? Almost to close the water board meeting.
[17:40] Supervisor Vecchia? Yes.
[17:41] Councilor McCarty? Yes.
[17:43] Councilor McMillan-Zovella? Yes.
[17:58] I was hoping I would be first, but I just wanted to say thank you for allowing me to
[18:02] speak.
[18:03] I'm just here to find out about the Selden New York Avenue School and ask this of it.
[18:10] Okay, very good question.
[18:13] The school district is very non-transparent.
[18:16] Oh, and I want to thank you for your lovely quote.
[18:19] Oh, thank you.
[18:21] So as of now, no application has been filed.
[18:25] No plans have been filed with the planning department.
[18:28] And if and when they are, the town will hold a public hearing.
[18:32] Most likely it's a senior center to accommodate the crowd.
[18:36] And then people will be heard there for or against.
[18:39] And it's very important that you do come to that meeting to express your support or non-support.
[18:46] and should the application require an environmental impact statement,
[18:53] all those statements will be processed through that plan.
[18:58] Okay, now who pays for all that?
[19:00] Like for all the environmental services?
[19:02] The town?
[19:02] No, the applicant.
[19:04] Wonderful.
[19:05] The town collects fees for the processing of the application.
[19:09] Okay, but they have to do all the service and all that.
[19:11] So if all of you are interested in that issue,
[19:13] You can observe the signs that will go up posting the date and time of the hearing.
[19:19] Thank you.
[19:19] Okay.
[19:20] Thank you very much.
[19:24] Anthony, I'm not reading the words very well.
[19:27] Anthony Malmo?
[19:28] Yeah, literally.
[19:30] Okay, thank you.
[19:32] Okay.
[19:34] Same thing?
[19:35] No.
[19:36] Okay, wishing to be heard.
[19:39] Matt Hetler.
[20:02] Good evening.
[20:04] Supervisor Becquiao, the Town Council.
[20:06] My name is Matt Heller, Six Stanley Plays,
[20:09] Hopog, New York, H-E-T-T-L-E-R.
[20:11] I'm joined with my wife Debbie,
[20:13] we're residents for 22 years on Stanley Place.
[20:17] I'm here tonight to talk to you about a petition
[20:19] that was filed with the town on behalf of the residents
[20:22] of Stanley Place and the surrounding community
[20:25] about no parking signs that were installed
[20:28] on our block at the end of August.
[20:33] And I have the petitions here.
[20:35] I actually submitted them to the town on October 11th, but I have copies for every one of you.
[20:40] Would you like to have them?
[20:42] Welcome to the clerk, please.
[20:46] What is the issue?
[20:48] Well, the real issue is that I came home the end of August.
[20:53] There were markouts in the street.
[20:54] I lived and I'm joined by a number of my neighbors here.
[21:02] Yeah, we're all here together. So the bottom line is this, thank you. I came home late
[21:11] August and much of my surprise, I found markouts in the street. Two feet from my driveway, I
[21:18] have a picture of it, and I live between the residential park entrance to Pinecone Park
[21:27] So here is a picture of the street. I don't know if you can really see it, but there was a white mark out.
[21:33] Sure, there's a white mark out that is two feet from my driveway, my apron.
[21:37] So I went down to the traffic department and I inquired as to what these white markouts were.
[21:44] And I was told that on August 9th, the board approved no parking signs without our knowledge.
[21:51] Again, two feet from the apron of my driveway, and no one notified me.
[21:57] And no one notified every single person on Stanley Place, which I find offensive.
[22:04] So that's the issue.
[22:07] And so at the end of the day, I was told that we have no position whatsoever
[22:13] because it was already approved by the town so we couldn't stop the process.
[22:17] There was one gentleman in the traffic department that was extremely nice, and he was very sympathetic.
[22:23] And what he said to me was, well, let me see what I can do to at least give you your parking spot at the end of your driveway.
[22:29] Well, what he did, although it was very admirable, is he shifted the signs, if you can see it.
[22:36] One sign is now located at the entrance of the pathway to the park, which I think is dangerous if kids combine down on a bike.
[22:44] And what they did is they shifted the sign across onto my neighbor's property.
[22:50] These are an eyesore to the block. They shouldn't be there.
[22:53] So now the question...
[22:54] Was the reason I remember this letter or the petition that was sent,
[23:00] the reason that the sign was in school was to allow the occupant of the residents to exit her driveway?
[23:09] Yes.
[23:09] Is that the reason?
[23:10] Yeah.
[23:10] Okay.
[23:11] So first and foremost...
[23:13] You're out of time. I took your time. So thank you. Okay. Thank you. And maybe collectively we can add their time
[23:20] So what I like you can't do that. All right
[23:23] Can I show you a 10-second video? Yes, this is just to address that claim that the resident can't get out of their driveway
[23:36] don't know if you can really see it
[23:38] Not so good from now
[23:40] This is her car which is 35 years old
[23:44] She backs out. She has no issue getting out of her driveway
[23:49] Okay. She doesn't come across the street. Okay. And so on.
[23:54] Further, while that is stated November 1st, I can tell you and every resident here can tell you that this resident across the street leaves her house on average three to four times a month.
[24:07] Her claim to the traffic department was that she was a prisoner in her own home. Okay.
[24:11] So, wait, I just want to say. So that was misleading. So the town basically had a deal
[24:17] with one resident, never notified the residents, and that's why we're here tonight.
[24:22] Okay. Well, let me just explain the process. All these things that we read tonight are submitted by department heads.
[24:30] Each of us review what the application or the resolution is before we're going to vote on it.
[24:37] When we did a resolution to put up a parking sign or a stop sign, we read that and we kind
[24:44] of agree with it because it's recommended by the traffic department.
[24:49] We're none of us are traffic experts.
[24:51] So we'll make inquiry.
[24:52] As a result of the meeting here, we'll talk to the traffic department.
[24:56] With all due respect, that already happened with Councilwoman Insorello.
[25:00] She went and met with them and I don't need to speak on your behalf.
[25:03] But here's the real kicker.
[25:05] We were told that by the traffic director that he is not budging on it
[25:10] because the person says that she can't get out of her driveway.
[25:14] I just proved to you that she can.
[25:16] I'm telling you that she doesn't leave her house for three or four times a month.
[25:20] On top of that, she harasses the people on the block.
[25:22] Let me ask you a question, Mr. Heather.
[25:25] Getting out of your driveway three or four times a month could still cause an accident. Possible?
[25:30] Not just for two years.
[25:31] Not 50 years. Absolutely not.
[25:34] All right. Good enough. Come on. All right. We'll take it up with the traffic.
[25:41] But that that already happened. So we'll take it up again.
[25:45] We're not going to resolve it here tonight.
[25:51] Anthony, April,
[25:57] he can speak this afternoon. He got three minutes.
[26:03] Good evening. Um,
[26:04] I agree with everything that the Mr.
[26:07] Hathaway, Mrs. Attler said. Um, one thing I want to add, um,
[26:10] you did bring up that it could be a safety issue those three or four times
[26:13] that she would pull out of her driveway.
[26:14] I feel in community of that area feels that it's a safety concern because now
[26:18] cars are forced to park park on the north side and there's a bend in Stanley
[26:23] Place. I have a picture here that I'll submit. So there's a bend in that road, so now anybody coming
[26:29] east or west on Stanley Place is a tremendous wine spot. So now coming around that bend
[26:37] you cannot see what's coming from the other side of Stanley Place. So I feel
[26:41] and the community members feel that the opinion of one was taken and the safety of the community,
[26:46] I think.
[26:47] Who's the liaison to the traffic department on a board?
[26:50] You are?
[26:51] Okay.
[26:52] Well, you'll discuss it next day or toward you and the traffic director and me.
[26:58] Okay?
[26:58] Okay.
[26:59] Thank you.
[26:59] Thank you.
[27:01] Christopher Susner?
[27:05] Speaking of the same point.
[27:06] Same point.
[27:07] Okay.
[27:07] Good.
[27:08] Thank you.
[27:17] You live on the corner of Stanley and Sandra. My name is Christopher Duffner. I live at 18
[27:22] Sandra Drive in Hopon. Right on the corner of Stanley and Sandra. The corner of my property
[27:27] is about 50 or 60 feet from where these signs were placed. My children have been, my children
[27:32] use the sidewalk to enter that park. It's a pedestrian entryway. Parking in front of
[27:40] that pedestrian entryway has nothing whatsoever to do with being able to get in or out of the park.
[27:45] The precedent that's being set here is that anyone who feels they can't back out of their driveway
[27:49] safely can have signs put up across the street from their driveway prohibiting parking.
[27:55] That's the dangerous precedent that's being set here.
[27:59] A couple of months ago, I commented to my wife when we went for a neighborhood that was with much smaller roads than ours, how lucky you were to have such wide roadways.
[28:07] I have a 20-foot boat trailer that I pulled in and out of my driveway for many years without any problem.
[28:14] Saying I had a pop-up trailer that I had 20 feet at the same thing.
[28:17] I never had a problem backing that inner-out of my driveway.
[28:20] But again, the precedent that's being set here has nothing to do with this parking lot.
[28:23] What is the issue with the people who forced the park around the corner because of that sign?
[28:31] Is that the issue?
[28:32] The issue is, why is there no parking sign there all of a sudden after 40 years?
[28:37] Because one person claims they have a problem backing out of their driveway.
[28:44] Well, how does that sign offend you? That's my question.
[28:52] What it's a precedent that's been set, there's a similar entryway to the park on Sheila Drive.
[28:58] There are no parking signs there.
[29:00] This is because one person said they can't back out of the driveway.
[29:03] Okay.
[29:04] I think that's a dangerous precedent.
[29:08] Well, it's not a precedent.
[29:09] That's generally.
[29:11] Okay.
[29:11] We'll look into it.
[29:12] Thank you.
[29:13] Thank you.
[29:23] John Zolo, you can speak, well you didn't sign in, that's why I don't, but no I don't
[29:33] have it.
[29:33] What did you mean?
[29:36] Okay, it's here.
[29:37] It's here.
[29:38] Mr. Sonsari, please come up.
[29:41] Sorry, Mrs. Ola.
[29:52] No, sir, public hearing is a town hall.
[29:55] Anybody can speak.
[29:56] All right, thank you, and congratulations for your triple-A bond radio.
[30:01] My wife and I moved into Smithtown in July of 1967 on to Stanley Place. It was a dirt road. There were no streets. There were no curbs. There was no park. There were just trees.
[30:13] We were naive enough to believe a salesperson from Hillside Terrace that it was a bird sanctuary.
[30:19] And around 1970, when the bulldozers came to knock down the trees and build a park from Mr. Fitzpatrick,
[30:25] who was giving it to the Hop-Hop Little League and where Smithtown students couldn't play
[30:29] because they didn't belong to Hop-Hop, yet this park was surrounded by Smithtown students
[30:34] who couldn't play baseball in the Hop-Hop Little League because they lived in Smithtown.
[30:39] Now you know the whole story.
[30:40] Sure.
[30:41] I mean, when we moved in, you were probably pounding a beat in the city.
[30:44] I don't know what that...
[30:45] Well, maybe you were a teenager.
[30:46] Also, I think too much.
[30:47] All right.
[30:49] So anyway, the curves went in, the park was developed and there were no fences
[30:53] and thanks to Mr. Valentine and under your guidance I think we had the code
[30:56] enforcement and we got rid of a lot of junk that was hanging out in the park
[31:00] and we put fences up and we put you know the park was brought under control and
[31:05] now I have in front of my house and I'll show you a picture because of the
[31:08] neighbor across the street a part no parking sign in front of my house that was
[31:12] greeted to me when I came home from the hospital after having major
[31:15] surgery it's right it's in front of my house okay it's not in the front of
[31:19] Park entrance. This is in front of my house. So I'll submit that picture. Thank you
[31:28] for coming in.
[31:29] We would give a note on this. I have pictures of the malls where the park signs were supposed to be,
[31:37] and you will see that they were not put where the traffic department said they were supposed to be.
[31:45] They were shifting. They were shifting to accommodate somebody who said they couldn't back out of their drive-in.
[31:50] Our streets are very wide. As Chris said, you could back a boat trailer out of there.
[31:54] So here's the marks that were. OK, but also I just want to make a point.
[32:00] All of these resolutions we read tonight, some of them are paying taxes for some and you're not.
[32:07] They are submitted by department heads or expert in their fields.
[32:11] So when the traffic director was a traffic engineer,
[32:14] here, submits a resolution to implement a control, a traffic control. We take it that
[32:20] he is an expert in the field. We don't go out and look at it. So now, if you're here,
[32:26] we'll take it up with him and see what we can do.
[32:29] Well, by the way, here's a picture of the driveway in question of the person who said
[32:32] they can't bag a day's driveway. You could make a U-turn in here with a trailer.
[32:36] Okay. Fair enough.
[32:37] Okay.
[32:37] Thank you so much. Mr. Zola. Thank you.
[32:47] That's a pretty big drop.
[32:51] Oh, it came from somewhere.
[32:54] We need the Miss Suvaz members of the town board.
[32:57] My name is John Zola, 169 Hickory Lane, Smith Town.
[33:01] Just first of all, I guess what happens here with the street sign is it's nice to know that people come here and have their voices heard.
[33:08] That's a good thing. And that's what democracy and government is about.
[33:12] But I wanted to applaud the Kings Park Chamber to come forward with a conceptual plan for the Kings Park community.
[33:19] And I think the town board has an opportunity to run with that and work with the Kings Park community
[33:23] and also bring in the Smith Town downtown and work with their vision to revitalize the downtowns in Kings Park and Smith Town.
[33:33] Recently, the Newsday had an article that talked about the Smithtown School District
[33:39] selling their property for 13 acres, and the flip side of that Newsday article was a story
[33:44] about the North Port getting a $2 million fund to do sewers for the Village of North
[33:50] Port.
[33:50] And I thought it was interesting to jump to the position.
[33:52] Here you have a Smithtown who has a downtown, people have been crying out for sewers in
[33:56] Smithtown and in Kings Park, and for some action and proactivity on the part of
[34:02] of Smithtown, which really hasn't happened, and Northport Village is getting funding just
[34:06] like Patchouli has in Bayshore.
[34:09] I think you need to open up a dialogue with the Kings Park Chamber, the Smithtown Chamber,
[34:14] and while you have the color piece of property across the street, you also have the Smithtown
[34:19] School property.
[34:20] Don't let it be an opportunity lost for the town of Smithtown to come with a plan
[34:24] that would bring all those together and hopefully revitalize and rejuvenate our
[34:28] downtown.
[34:28] town. Mark Van Cien just happens to be here, who's come up with numerous plans and ideas
[34:33] conceptual to work to develop and bring our town into the 21st century. So I think this
[34:40] board needs to be proactive. Maybe you should consider having more work sessions where you
[34:47] have the plan director, the apartment environment and waterways person, the building director
[34:52] and the town board sit and talk about what the vision is for this town. Don't means
[34:57] law is nice, it gives opportunities to people to see what goes on in government.
[35:03] My just looking grief for there hasn't been a work session in the town of Smithtown,
[35:06] an open work session in about four months.
[35:09] A lot of government is going on now behind closed doors.
[35:12] So bring it out to the people, let them know what's going on, let them be heard.
[35:15] Work for the future of the town of Smithtown.
[35:17] And I think Tony Tansy and the Kings Park Chamber should be applauded for taking that step.
[35:21] Don't let that be a wasted step.
[35:23] Thank you.
[35:23] Is that in order?
[35:24] It's a request, I think it's good for the town.
[35:26] I like it in the form of a request.
[35:30] Thank you.
[35:33] Victoria Fjordstein?
[35:47] This is a request.
[35:50] I represent a group of Smithtown residents who are interested in creating an area for the dogs to run behind the dog shelter.
[36:00] Our group believes this is so important that we're willing to fund the entire thing and raise the money.
[36:06] We started this discussion with Sue Hanson, probably February.
[36:12] And then I spoke to Councilwoman Insorello, and thank you for that.
[36:17] You directed me in the right spot. You directed me to the liaison.
[36:21] Councilwoman Noak. We met with Councilwoman Noak in May.
[36:26] And just recently, Councilman Wilhelm, thank you very much.
[36:30] I discussed this with you on the phone.
[36:33] What we're trying to do is that there's an area behind the shelter.
[36:36] I'm pretty sure you know it, but I do, although I've walked through it many times.
[36:40] It's about 100 by 100, and we want to buy the fencing and whatever other money it costs
[36:46] there is to create this area for the dogs.
[36:50] I know, if I may call you Lisa, I know you visited the shelter,
[36:54] and you're very familiar with it, and you know the size of the pens.
[36:57] And I know the age of the place and that the cement there is really old and when they have to wash it every morning
[37:03] it doesn't dry for a very long time.
[37:05] And these dogs are basically, some of these dogs have been, one of these dogs has been there for four years.
[37:10] Some of these dogs, too, three years.
[37:13] So they may get walked on a leash.
[37:16] You know, they may go out and out to a pen for a little bit.
[37:19] But they really, you know, they're not our dogs at home that have the cozy life and they have their backyard
[37:24] and they get walked whenever it's appropriate or an opportunity for them.
[37:30] This is a humane issue to us.
[37:33] And I know that there's been some discussions about including this in the renovations.
[37:39] But we're here to respectfully request that since we're willing to do this work as Smidtown residents raise this money,
[37:48] that we do this now because when the renovations happen,
[37:54] as I've been in the public arena my entire career,
[37:57] I know that there are things that happen to well-intentioned promises,
[38:01] things that happen because of things that are more important suddenly
[38:04] or the agenda switches.
[38:06] And these thoughts really shouldn't have to wait anyway,
[38:08] even if this promise does happen to include it in the renovations.
[38:13] They need this now.
[38:14] And if we have residents who are willing to go beat the bushes
[38:17] for every dime, we respectfully, you know, ask you.
[38:22] You've met with Mrs. Nolik?
[38:24] Yes, in May.
[38:25] And what was the result of that conversation?
[38:28] At the time, we believed that there was a possibility of getting the scrubby,
[38:33] I call it the scrubby brush area, right behind the thing, fenced in.
[38:37] But I haven't heard anything since then.
[38:38] Well, is there another question that that might interfere with the fire,
[38:43] Is there a fire matter track with the fireman practice?
[38:48] No, sir, it's not.
[38:50] Okay.
[38:51] No, we totally would not want to interfere with that area.
[38:54] We're looking for it, okay?
[38:56] May I ask one question?
[38:57] Sure.
[38:58] Since we've kind of impatient, we feel like we're kind of spinning our wheels.
[39:01] What happens?
[39:02] Do we need to do a petition?
[39:04] No, no, no.
[39:05] We'll make note of it.
[39:06] We'll take it up with Mrs. Nowick and Sue Hanson.
[39:10] And then somebody will get back to us?
[39:11] Well, you could call me in a week or two.
[39:15] I'll call you in a week or two. Thank you very much.
[39:18] Okay, that concludes everybody who wants to speak.
[39:21] So I'll move to close the meeting.
[39:23] Thank you.
[39:24] Supervisor Beck, yes?
[39:25] Councilman McCartney?
[39:26] Yes.
[39:26] Councilman Wareheim?
[39:27] Yes.
[39:28] Councilwoman Zarella?
[39:29] Yes.
[39:30] Thank you all.