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Those
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[clears throat]
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people are here.
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it is.
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>> I'll put that one on. Thank you.
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>> Thank you.
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» [laughter]
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>> No problem.
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» And you you can turn the thing in the
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back and it'll make it so you don't have
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to be so close to it. It picks you up at
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a different distance. [cough]
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[clears throat]
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A public hearing will be held by the
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town of Sullivan Planning Board on March
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3rd, 2026 at 6:45 p.m. at the town of
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Sullivan, 7507 Lakeport Road at Nango,
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New York 1337
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to consider the application of Brent and
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Melissa Buno for property located at 152
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Washington Avenue, Canota, New York, SPL
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number being 10.36-1-42
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for a special use permit pursuant to the
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town of Sullivan codes article 4 animals
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and follow sections 105- -28 and 105-29
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to have six chickens. The above
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application is open to inspection at the
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town office building 7507 Lakeport Road,
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Chip Naga, New York during regular
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business hours. Persons wishing to
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appear at such hearing may do so by
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person, attorney or other
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representative.
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>> They're not here.
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» They are not here.
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Just want to hold it till we get through
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the rest of the agenda.
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>> We'll hold it and then we'll go to Mr.
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A public hearing will be held by town of
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Sland Planning Board on March 3rd,
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2026 at 6:45 p.m. at the town of
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Sullivan, 7507 Lake Road, Chenango, New
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York 1337 to consider the application of
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Edward Atkins for property located at
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8964 Green Road, Bridgeport, New York,
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SPL number being 8.6-1-17. 6-1-17
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for a special use permit pursuant to the
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zoning schedule of the town of Sullivan
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zoning law 275-9
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D12
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K for a 24x 46 ft temporary tent for
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storage. The above application is open
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to inspection at the town office
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building 7507 Lakeport Road Chitna New
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York during regular business hours.
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Persons wishing to appear at such
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hearing may do so by person, attorney or
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other representative.
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Mr. Action, you want Yep. You want to
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stand up to the podium, please?
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So, Mr. Action, we
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got a couple different reports from your
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neighbors.
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couple of, you know, the one neighbor
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sent us quite a few photographs
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of all of it back there and
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they're not very happy with everything
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that's going on back there with all that
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tents
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in your property.
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They think you should clean it up a
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little bit, but
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that's what we're going to address the
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tent tonight. And is there anybody here
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that would like to speak? Hi, Mr. Exon.
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Okay.
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Are you okay? All right, Mr. Action, do
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you want to take a seat and then Art
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state your name, your address,
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and anybody who speaks, we give you
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three minutes and then
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Okay, our little Warbury Road. Uh, I
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oppose the request and I have sat
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through every one of these meetings. uh
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and u uh at the last meeting I think the
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board adequately described uh what the
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current situation is and uh that uh
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clearly made my mind up. So I'm I'm
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opposing this application. Thank you.
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>> Thank [clears throat] you.
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» So Mr. Do you want to see any of these
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pictures?
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>> Yes, I'd like them.
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>> All right.
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You want to go up to the podium and I'll bring them over to you. You can
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take a look at them.
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» [clears throat]
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» I'll give you a couple minute or so to
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go through them and take a look at them.
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» [snorts]
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» So, did these come from my tenant that
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just got evicted?
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>> I don't think so. Um, I do cuz they're
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on my property. Take these pictures.
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before taking outside my fence.
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>> What's the last name?
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>> What's that?
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>> What's the last name?
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>> I can't hear.
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>> What's the last name of you? What's the
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last person saying?
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>> Uh
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the Craig.
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>> No,
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that goes to them.
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>> About
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>> No, somebody was on my property there.
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These are nothing to do with the tent.
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This is the front yard of the SL tenant
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that I just got evicted. It's not
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>> look.
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>> All right. So you have
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>> the 14
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>> the tent's been an issue for three
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years.
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>> No, the garage has been issue for three
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years. The tent was there and please the
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garage.
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>> No, the garage wasn't. You pulled your
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application.
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>> Well, I got it right here. Would you
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like to see that?
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>> You don't have the right stuff because I
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went in there when I came back here last
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month. We reckon
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right there when I signed stuff. Yes.
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>> But that was three years ago. That was
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last month.
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» I know nothing about I knew that you
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applied for a garage three years ago.
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>> That's correct.
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>> And your house was an ituation and they
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wanted
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an architect's drawings on what you did
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to your house and the work being done.
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>> That's not true.
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>> The true It isn't true about this.
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>> That's not the whole sentence.
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>> Okay. But your house isn't let's call
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isn't your house isn't what we're
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talking about. talk about the times
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>> you're talking about the house. This is
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>> I'm just giving you
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>> Okay. All right, Mr. Ex.
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>> It's You want to get it right one time?
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>> Actions.
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>> Okay. Sorry. My apologies.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Um
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have any questions?
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Any
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questions?
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» Sorry about the whole backyard.
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>> Whole backyard.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So,
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um,
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>> so we're asking for a permit for a tent
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that he's had already up for three
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years.
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>> That's correct. That's correct.
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>> We're in court.
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>> That's what I was told. We're
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prosecuting. Mr.
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and justice court over this. So
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I I don't feel a special use for it was
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made was developed for tents in the
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backyard for storage. It's for home
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occupancy work for different businesses.
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>> So what might be helpful for the board
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when when you get around to looking at
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the merits of the application is the
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burden's on the applicant. So the person
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that comes before you have to
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demonstrate why they're entitled to the
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special use permit. That's solely their
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burden, [clears throat] not your burden,
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their burden. And the criteria that
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you're faced with is they have to show
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all the following that the location,
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size of use and structure, na nature and
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intensity of the operations involved,
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the size of site in relation to it and
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the location of the site with respect to
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streets give giving access to it will be
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in harmony will be in harmony with the
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orderly development of that area. So
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your first question is is having these
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things on that property in harmony with
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the orderly orderly development of not
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just that property but the properties
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surround it. That's your first question.
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And then the second piece of it is that
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the location, nature and height of any
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buildings, walls or fences will not
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discourage the appropriate appropriate
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development and use of adjacent land and
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buildings or or impair their value.
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Third is um operations of any
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conditional use should not be more
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objectionable to nearby properties than
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will any permitted use. So the question
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is would these things are these things
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more objectionable than something you're
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allowed to have as of right? And um and
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the last piece really I don't think is
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relevant but has to do with adequate
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parking that's really relevant but
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that's a requirement for an applicant to
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approve to to obtain a special use
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permit.
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I just want to remind you of that. And
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that's um Jenna, that's um 275-9
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uh
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uppercase C.
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» [clears throat]
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» So, at this point, you're probably going
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to close this public hearing. Everybody
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else has spoken. You got the letter that
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you have.
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>> So, can I have a motion to close this
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public?
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>> Second.
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>> So, hang around then come back up at
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when we start a regular meeting at 7
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o'clock. Then we go back and discuss
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everything.
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» Yeah.
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» What's going on? Went over and talked to
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the judge today. I was in there again
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for that person with all that crap.
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>> Yeah.
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» But these photos are showing the tent
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that you currently have up, right?
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>> The tent that's in these photos is the
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tent that you've had up for three years
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now, which is what we are discussing.
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>> Wait, what? Is there something wrong
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with my home? You see something wrong
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destroyed on it like your attorney
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talked last week
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apart.
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>> I'm going off of what the attorney just
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pointed out about
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how it compares to
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adjacent land other uses.
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>> Apparently, nobody's been on the
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» secondary. You want me to read that
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again? Yeah, if you would because they
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just came in.
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» A public hearing will be held by the
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town of Sullivan Planning Board on March
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3rd, 2026 at 6:45 p.m.
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7507 Lake Road, Chittangle, New York
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1337 to consider the application of
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Brent and Melissa O'Neal for property
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located at 152 Washington Canes Stooga,
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New York. SPL number being 10.36-1-42
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for a special use permit pursuant to the
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town of Sullivan code article 4 animals
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and file sections 105-28 and 105-29 to
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have six chickens the above application
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is open to inspection at the town office
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building 7507
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road chip mango New York during regular
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business hours persons wishing to appear
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at such hearing may do so by person
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attorney or other representative
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You guys want to talk to them? Thank
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you.
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Good evening. Um, in the papers there,
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uh, our neighbor
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just u written a letter in response to
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this
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situation.
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» And then um I was asked to kind of draw
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up like where the coop goes. That's our
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um
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our property. Uh can't remember what
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it's exactly called, but anyways. Um, I
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did kind of change the lines for the 25
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foot because I know the 25 foot away
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from the neighbors is kind of uh what we
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need to be concerned with for chickens.
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So, I re some lines and I also um in the
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next
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page it talks about a chicken tractor
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which we kind of discussed just a little
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bit um and the benefits of it in that
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the chickens are healthier. Um, it also
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keeps your lawn in a better condition
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and um
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can also help uh with
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uh ticks and other things because
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they're moving around eating those
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things that you don't really want to
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have around. Um,
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see what else I put on there.
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Take up less space,
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keep the yard better, and yeah, keeps
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the birds healthier, too. And then um
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the next pages it just talks about how
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our fresh eggs are so much healthier for
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you and then what we purchase in stores.
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» That's it.
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>> Okay.
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So
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[snorts]
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I took I took a ride down and I looked
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at your property from the road and
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you're right on the corner
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>> and the lake is right across.
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>> Yeah.
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So, the only place looks like you had
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any room [clears throat] whatsoever to
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scoot your portable cage around is your
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front yard, George Lake.
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» And you have 10 chickens,
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>> but your application is for six.
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>> Yeah, we discussed the fact that we are
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300 square feet shy of of being able to
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keep 10 chickens. So,
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>> at the last meeting, we discussed that.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um Yeah. because you stated you thought
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that you may have what 20,000 square
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feet your building your yard
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you were going with 10 chickens right
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>> yeah and I think that's what is a lot of
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10 2000 and we're like something
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>> that that would be clear land not with
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house setting on it a swimming pool deck
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and another garage besides the one
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attached to your house
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>> I guess this is not specific
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Yes, lot that just a lot of size, right?
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You got what 16,800 square foot house
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with an attached garage.
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What's your other garage sit 14 by 20
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something in the back?
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>> I don't know.
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>> Pools 28 foot round
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>> with a deck. Yeah. So that cuts down
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your square footage quite a bit.
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>> Yeah, the cage is um 4 foot by if you
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include the uh the coupe and the
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extending cage is 4 by3 which isn't very
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large.
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>> So is there anybody here that's wants to
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speak for this? All right. So, okay. I'm
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going to have them speak first. If you'd
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like to sit down,
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» so I got a couple rules. You get three
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minutes. So, and state your name,
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address, and then I start the three
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minutes after that.
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>> Okay.
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>> Uh, my name is John Smith. live on
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Washington 133 Washington with my wife
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Betty. Um we know of them. We're not,
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you know, really close to them, but we
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are neighbors.
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>> The chickens don't seem to cause any
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problems. Anytime we've been down that
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road or down the lake, the chickens are
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in their yard or they're in the
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um I don't see it as a problem.
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I think there's bigger problems in that
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area than chickens.
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>> Yeah.
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>> All right. just, you know, our opinion
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and our, you know,
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» Yeah, we appreciate it.
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>> Thank you.
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» [clears throat]
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>> Um, I'm actually going to oppose this uh
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chicken cell. Uh according to modern
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agriculture magazine, their special
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chickens issue, chickens uh excrete two
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cubic feet of manure every year. So 10
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chickens are going to excrete 20 cubic
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feet of manure on this property every
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year. Now this box only holds one and a
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half cubic feet [clears throat]
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uh in volume. And uh that may be the
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volume of manure dropped by one chicken
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times the 10 15 cubic feet of manure
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perhaps that have already been dropped
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by the 10 chicken thing. Uh chicken
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manure is a smelly liquid blend of
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ammonia based urine and feces uh that
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kills the grass that it drops onto and
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it drops
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from a single combined vent in the
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chicken.
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um which because it's blended and
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ammonia based, it attracts flies galore
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and kills morass before it partially
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sinks into the ground. Uh which defeats
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composting actually and and blends with
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every breeze which is why many of the
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residents are down there is for the near
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constant breezes
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uh providing neighbors with a constant
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width of barnyard success. I think the
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congested area of MR12 throughout is
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made up of waterfront and water view
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homes on mostly quarter acre and smaller
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lots. This one's a large lot uh in
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comparison, but we need to be talking
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about the neighbors down there. And
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that's really why we're here. Uh and
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these properties are costing two to
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three times more than other properties
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south of 31 and paying two to three
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times more in taxes as well. People here
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buy from the waterfront, the breezes,
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the outdoor lifestyle. But this proposal
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is eventually, if not already,
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subjecting them to farm smells and flies
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galore. It's not a problem south of
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Route 31. But it is here and especially
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during the 80°ree and 90 degree weeks we
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all try to enjoy outdoors. And this MR12
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area, people are out even more. This
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proposal is a greater detriment to the
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MR12 neighborhood lifestyle and and it
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is a benefit to the applicant. Uh town
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code limits foul in MR12 to protect the
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lakefront taxpayers from smells of
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manure flies by the way and other
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nuisances that might be managed as if
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they were simply on a farm or a farm
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south of Route 31. The stinky
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combination of uh liquid ammonia based
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manure and near constant waterfront
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breezes depletes periodic composting. It
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cannot be undone by simply a partial
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weekly manure scraping because this
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stuff over the course of a week sinks
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down into the top two inches of the
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ground. Uh, and nobody's talking about
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taking that out. Um, or limiting to a
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hot barn. Imagine that. As the manure
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builds up, we are talking 15 to 20 cubic
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feet per year of this stuff. Chickens
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are prone. In conclusion, chickens are
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prone to farm nuisances, manure smells,
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flies galore, uh worms, parasites, lice,
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and salmonella spread by the flies, by
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the way, who travel a quarter mile fly
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biology for you across the neighborhood
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for picnic dining. Uh that's why our
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county board is going to be holding a
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public hearing and a vote in one day
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whether to have a moratorum on these
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types of applications. Uh, please don't
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approve this application just before a
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moratorum is considered by the town.
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Thank you.
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>> What was his name and where he lived?
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>> What's that?
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>> Oh, that's because he said it the first
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time. You want to give your name?
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>> Sure. Artio
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» doesn't have to be.
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>> So,
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does have any other questions?
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» [clears throat]
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» six
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push
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special.
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>> Yeah, you can get up to six special.
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How many without a special?
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>> Well, there's a there's a little
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chart we have in our code
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[laughter]
[24:29]
right there. It's 105-209
[24:33]
density for um density for fowl.
[24:38]
So under 10,000 square feet up three
[24:43]
between 10 and 20,000 square ft up to
[24:45]
six
[24:47]
and then goes up and up from there.
[24:57]
[clears throat]
[25:04]
How close are you to the lake?
[25:07]
>> Uh just on Lake and then it's the lake
[25:12]
right across the street. Across the
[25:14]
street
[25:17]
there's the street that goes the front
[25:19]
of their house. Then there's a grass
[25:20]
area where people
[25:24]
then the lake is on the other side of
[25:25]
that
[25:26]
>> and the parcel circle land is only
[25:38]
[clears throat]
[25:47]
» you know you get rain water whatever
[25:49]
Here's a street. There's a street goes
[25:51]
down
[25:52]
here.
[25:57]
Thinking how much
[26:00]
chicken put out and
[26:03]
how much filtered down into the soil.
[26:08]
>> Is there anything we can do about the um
[26:11]
Canadian geese?
[26:13]
We have Canadian geese that poop all
[26:15]
over the properties and our yard too. I
[26:18]
mean, that's just that's a thing that's
[26:20]
I don't know. It's just kind of that's happening. But I know we can't do
[26:26]
anything about that. We have to survive
[26:28]
with them.
[26:28]
>> They really work.
[26:30]
>> Yeah. Um and but about the chicken
[26:33]
tractor, it's actually much more
[26:34]
sanitary than just having them all in
[26:36]
one place because it does move around.
[26:38]
He's he moves it. He cleans it up and
[26:40]
moves it around. So, and he's really
[26:43]
good at cleaning out the poop and
[26:44]
everything, too. So, yeah. All
[26:52]
right.
[26:57]
Second. All in [laughter] favor?
[27:01]
>> Thank you.
[27:09]
» Well, we're past 7:00, so we'll start
[27:11]
our meeting for March, our planning
[27:13]
board meeting.
[27:17]
were passed around. Did anybody see any
[27:19]
questions?
[27:22]
Can I have a motion to pass?
[27:27]
Second favor
[27:32]
are passed.
[27:36]
Right.
[27:39]
So, let's come on up and we'll discuss
[27:42]
your You want to stand at the podium
[27:45]
here?
[27:48]
» [clears throat]
[27:53]
» So
[27:56]
that's that's been an ongoing issue for
[27:59]
three years now. The tent I'm not
[28:00]
talking the house. I'm talking the
[28:02]
backyard and the tent.
[28:05]
That's that's what the special use for
[28:06]
that. He would like this as the tents
[28:09]
for storage, right? Well, until like the
[28:13]
garage [snorts]
[28:17]
the garage starts, the tank's got to
[28:18]
come down,
[28:21]
» right? So, I mean,
[28:26]
well, it's up to I mean a special use
[28:29]
permit
[28:31]
once you issue a special use permit that
[28:35]
goes on that property forever.
[28:38]
Is that correct, John? Special use
[28:40]
permit runs with the land. Yes.
[28:42]
>> Yes.
[28:43]
>> So,
[28:44]
>> well, it's going to be special use for
[28:45]
the garage, too. You still got to have
[28:47]
whatever you do with special use.
[28:48]
>> Well, the garage would be a whole
[28:50]
different subject with the tenants. Um,
[28:52]
obviously the tents do not go with the
[28:55]
area. Doesn't go with the culture. And
[29:02]
if
[29:04]
the board's ready to vote, we'll vote on
[29:07]
it.
[29:08]
>> One way. One way to approach this, it's
[29:10]
up to you, could be you could ask
[29:11]
yourself whether this applicant has
[29:13]
carried the burden of proving uh that
[29:17]
they're entitled to a special use
[29:18]
permit, reminding you of those criteria
[29:21]
that I had read to you earlier, which
[29:23]
included whether this request and you
[29:26]
seen what it is. He's asking, can I keep
[29:28]
this here? Do you think that that that
[29:31]
[laughter]
[29:32]
existing use or continue continuation of
[29:35]
it would be in harmony with the orderly
[29:37]
development of that property and beyond
[29:40]
that uh allowing to stay there? Will it u discourage the appropriate
[29:46]
development of that land or adjacent
[29:47]
lands? It might be easier to look at it
[29:49]
as to whether the applicant has proven
[29:51]
their case. Every applicant [laughter]
[29:52]
has to prove their case. So that might
[29:54]
be a way and your comments you know that
[29:56]
you have about it all dove tail into
[29:58]
that that's the way you approach it
[30:02]
>> right it's kind of leads into the
[30:05]
question
[30:12]
right
[30:13]
are you know my voice doesn't project
[30:16]
very well
[30:18]
um
[30:22]
» okay what you're trying to do Are you
[30:24]
bringing in a tent in there?
[30:26]
>> Have you seen the pictures of this?
[30:28]
>> Tents are already there.
[30:29]
>> It's right there. It's It's that green
[30:31]
canvasy
[30:35]
» structure.
[30:36]
>> What are they made of?
[30:38]
>> Tents. What are they made of?
[30:41]
>> This is Army Heavywe.
[30:44]
>> Yeah. Your attorney. Last time I was in
[30:46]
here, he thought, "Oh, the tent's going
[30:47]
to go up there. The wind's going to blow
[30:48]
apart. It's all look like crap in no
[30:50]
time." Been up for two years. Not
[30:52]
nothing wrong.
[31:00]
[snorts]
[31:02]
That's
[31:06]
another picture.
[31:20]
Is this visible?
[31:22]
Uh
[31:26]
the is the tent going to be taller than
[31:29]
the fence?
[31:35]
» It's taller. Should be safe from
[31:37]
>> Okay. So, what about the tent or the uh
[31:42]
[snorts] occupants of other houses down
[31:44]
that road?
[31:46]
>> There's no problem with anybody. Not
[31:48]
one.
[31:51]
You know, you showing me these pictures.
[31:52]
Don't they had to be here in person?
[31:53]
They want to complain about this.
[31:55]
>> They do not.
[31:56]
>> No, they can send us correspondence.
[31:59]
>> Seems to me maybe Larry took those for
[32:01]
you supposed to be there.
[32:03]
>> It's irrelevant who took the picture.
[32:06]
>> The photographs depict the property as
[32:08]
it exists.
[32:10]
>> The thing is you're arguing over a tent
[32:11]
that I want to come down myself. The
[32:14]
application is in again for the garage a
[32:17]
month and whatever. I came in a week
[32:19]
before I don't know where the meeting.
[32:22]
>> So you are you going to be using this or
[32:25]
are you going to be taking this
[32:27]
>> down
[32:32]
is up as and if you look at the pictures
[32:34]
you can see what the property is all
[32:36]
about.
[32:36]
>> So from the photographs
[32:38]
>> when when's your when's your plans for
[32:41]
doing the garage? This spring.
[32:42]
>> Maybe this spring.
[32:44]
>> Yeah. So this is just temporary. Yes,
[32:48]
that's what I'm doing.
[32:51]
temporary. There's things inside that
[32:52]
can't get wet. John,
[32:54]
>> you're on the contractor. That's what I
[32:55]
>> Well, he's in court right now and and
[32:57]
our office was asked to prosecute him.
[32:59]
Not just on the tents, but all of that
[33:01]
stuff that's lying outside. So, if the
[33:03]
tent comes down, you got you don't
[33:05]
approve the tent. We'll continue with
[33:07]
our prosecution. We'll get an order to
[33:08]
clean all of that stuff off of the
[33:10]
property. It'll be taken somewhere else.
[33:12]
>> It's all coming up anyway. That's not
[33:14]
>> That'll work out well then. It's all
[33:15]
coming up anyway.
[33:17]
But I think the delay it's been delayed
[33:18]
for Larry. How long has this been
[33:20]
delayed for?
[33:22]
>> How long has this been going on, Larry?
[33:23]
>> More than two years, I think.
[33:24]
>> More than two years.
[33:26]
>> So, probably enough time to submit an
[33:28]
application for a true garage.
[33:31]
>> It's redone.
[33:34]
>> But he can and he's allowed to pursue a
[33:36]
storage building.
[33:37]
>> Yes.
[33:37]
>> And he can and he can move stuff into it
[33:39]
once it's built. But I think the issue
[33:41]
has been it's been this for some time.
[33:45]
So, but again, it's it's a special use
[33:47]
permit. He has to prove he's entitled to
[33:49]
the special use permit as the code is
[33:51]
written. So, you would have to make
[33:52]
findings saying yes, what I what we see
[33:55]
here is in harmony with that
[33:56]
neighborhood. Is that what that
[33:57]
neighborhood looks like? Generally
[33:59]
speaking,
[34:01]
>> that's one way to look at it.
[34:04]
>> I don't.
[34:05]
>> It's up to you. You guys can vote for it
[34:06]
or you don't have to. No. Right. Right.
[34:09]
So,
[34:13]
you ready to vote? We'll
[34:15]
do a roll vote. I'll start first. I say,
[34:19]
Mr. Action, I vote no for permit for
[34:22]
special use. If you're taking the tents
[34:26]
down, you're cleaning it out and you're
[34:28]
going to build a garage.
[34:31]
I don't see why you need a special use
[34:34]
permit for that.
[34:36]
So, Tory, I'm opposed. Also, I don't
[34:40]
know how long it's going to take to
[34:41]
actually get the permanent garage built
[34:44]
if it goes through. And I mean, this
[34:47]
time can be here for multiple years
[34:49]
again.
[34:51]
>> The tenant has to come down immediately
[34:54]
service.
[34:55]
>> Correct. But we don't know when you're
[34:58]
going to build that garage. When
[35:00]
>> Well, you ask yourself because the
[35:01]
permit or the application is in for the
[35:04]
garage. It's right there. You say yes,
[35:07]
it'll start tomorrow. But you've been
[35:08]
saying no for two years
[35:11]
>> and I gave you everything you wanted for
[35:13]
that garage. You got the variance from
[35:16]
the dot or whoever the hell it was and
[35:18]
everything else. So what's that?
[35:21]
Because every time I come in here, Larry
[35:23]
says, "Oh, you got to know when the
[35:25]
birds fly over, what color of the grass
[35:27]
is going to be garbage."
[35:29]
>> I remember these violations that I had
[35:32]
on my house. You know, you want a
[35:34]
lawsuit here because this is where it's
[35:35]
legal. Okay. There's no proof. Anything
[35:39]
done at my property by me.
[35:44]
There's something here that just doesn't
[35:47]
>> probably be driven over to look the
[35:48]
property person.
[35:50]
>> No, I will tomorrow.
[35:52]
>> Unfortunately, he's already lost because
[35:54]
two people have voted no. So, his
[35:56]
application
[35:58]
>> your application is tonight.
[35:59]
>> But Paul, I do think you should take a
[36:00]
look at it
[36:01]
>> for a special use permit. Yeah,
[36:04]
>> but Paul, you should you should go one
[36:05]
way or the other if you want.
[36:07]
>> You want I'll meet you there. I'll give
[36:08]
you a tour.
[36:10]
>> Okay. Where your address?
[36:12]
>> 8964 Green Road. Right next to where the
[36:15]
Bible return
[36:20]
right by the when you cross before you
[36:22]
cross the creek going into Bridgeport.
[36:23]
>> Okay.
[36:31]
So there's a call. There's a vote
[36:33]
called. So either you have to vote yes
[36:35]
to approve it, no to say like the other
[36:38]
two gentlemen did, or you can abstain,
[36:41]
which isn't going to matter because it's
[36:42]
not the approval is not going to.
[36:45]
>> Now that I know exactly it is kind of to
[36:49]
me, it looks like it's not going to
[36:51]
impact
[36:53]
much. There's already a store there. If
[36:57]
anything, my property has improved the
[36:59]
neighborhood. So, even with all the junk
[37:01]
you have in the pictures, it isn't mine.
[37:05]
>> Which way are you going? Yes or no?
[37:10]
» So, it's two against, one in favor. It
[37:13]
fails because it needs three to be
[37:15]
approved.
[37:17]
So now there's a pending court case that
[37:20]
will be pursued to uh obtain
[37:23]
[clears throat] an order to have
[37:24]
everything removed from the property
[37:27]
that's not properly, you know, inside of
[37:29]
a building. Not not he can keep it all.
[37:32]
He's got to move it off off of the yard
[37:34]
and the tent
[37:36]
and he can pursue his garage and do
[37:39]
work. So that's clearly fine. And then
[37:42]
if he's got it stored somewhere else, he
[37:44]
can move it all back into his garage.
[37:45]
Yeah, absolutely. You can pursue your
[37:47]
garage. Yeah, it's not a problem.
[37:49]
>> The application is in right now. Same
[37:52]
time as they have it on the agenda for
[37:54]
next month then be ready to go. Yeah,
[37:56]
but but he's gonna Meanwhile, our office
[37:58]
is going to prosecute the violations.
[38:01]
>> Yeah. You want me to put you want to get
[38:03]
on the agenda for your garage next
[38:05]
month?
[38:07]
>> No, you're not following what I'm
[38:09]
saying.
[38:09]
>> I I [laughter] follow exactly what
[38:11]
you're saying. Why aren't we?
[38:12]
>> But but the thing of it is is what the
[38:14]
business was tonight is your special use
[38:16]
for for your tent. That was the business
[38:18]
tonight.
[38:20]
>> No, both things were on that
[38:22]
application.
[38:25]
>> Well, even even if anything [laughter]
[38:26]
had been approved, it doesn't mean you
[38:28]
get to keep it in violation. That the
[38:31]
amount of fines that are building up on
[38:32]
this property are potentially staggering
[38:35]
when you look at every day as a
[38:37]
violation. So, I think it's good to sort
[38:38]
of cut it off now.
[38:40]
>> Yeah. But he can Yes, he can pursue it.
[38:42]
Yeah.
[38:44]
>> So, Mr. Would you like to be on the
[38:46]
agenda for next month?
[38:47]
>> Yes.
[38:48]
>> Okay. So, we're going to put you on the
[38:50]
agenda for next month and we're going to
[38:51]
discuss your garage. Okay.
[38:55]
>> Larry, Larry, what does he need? Larry,
[38:57]
what does he need for that garage? They
[38:59]
have to be
[39:01]
>> everything you needed. Uh, all of a
[39:03]
sudden, Larry brought in wanted to
[39:05]
change my house for three family and I
[39:08]
we're talking about the garage. I know.
[39:09]
>> What does he have to have for plans and
[39:11]
drawings for this board?
[39:13]
>> Drawing.
[39:13]
>> Okay.
[39:14]
>> Prepared by hope
[39:16]
>> slab or
[39:17]
>> it can be done a bigger garage.
[39:20]
>> It's the same 24 by 46.
[39:22]
>> Okay. Do [clears throat] we have all
[39:23]
that now for next month's meeting? You
[39:25]
know,
[39:26]
>> I would have to have foundation plan
[39:30]
building application filled out or
[39:32]
anything.
[39:32]
>> Okay. Then I don't know
[39:34]
>> that I think he's referring to we filled
[39:36]
out was for this special use permit
[39:38]
>> for the for the temporary correct
[39:40]
whatever the temporary [laughter]
[39:42]
>> am I going to take it out both were on
[39:44]
that you and both were there you both
[39:46]
said put it into the meeting
[39:49]
second
[39:52]
[laughter]
[39:52]
>> this was happened from day one nowhere
[39:55]
>> you guys have other
[39:56]
>> Yep. So,
[39:59]
we'll be you'll be here next month and
[40:01]
we'll talk about about your
[40:04]
um your garage.
[40:07]
>> All right. What about the back stairs? I
[40:09]
gave you the drawing for that.
[40:13]
» Your stairs.
[40:14]
>> Yeah, that's one of the violations.
[40:17]
>> Yeah, that's that's not us. That's going
[40:20]
to court.
[40:20]
>> That's going That's not us, sir. Hey, as
[40:23]
you said, I had to come to you for
[40:24]
special use permit. So, she knew my
[40:26]
service.
[40:28]
>> I got your permit right in front of me
[40:29]
right here. And here it states you're
[40:32]
looking for a permit for a 24x 46
[40:36]
temporary tent.
[40:39]
>> Thank you.
[40:44]
» Tell me one thing.
[40:48]
» Well, tell them it is. Did we talk about
[40:50]
this? Why am I here if you're just going
[40:52]
to ignore it and let it go?
[40:55]
>> Everything that was on the property had
[40:58]
>> Okay, there they are. You hear that?
[41:01]
>> I brought you the drawings specifically
[41:03]
with a picture and you ignore it.
[41:06]
>> The your application is for your tent,
[41:09]
sir. That's it.
[41:10]
>> No, it's not.
[41:11]
>> It's done.
[41:12]
>> It's over.
[41:19]
the applicant pursuant.
[41:21]
See, it's a permit for 24x 46 temporary
[41:25]
tent.
[41:29]
Add new 36 in entrance door to the front
[41:32]
left of the home.
[41:35]
That's what your application is for.
[41:39]
That's it. That's what your application
[41:40]
is for.
[41:43]
Um
[41:46]
there is no date
[41:48]
>> there. There should be a date on
[41:49]
application. They don't have
[41:51]
>> I could tell you that there's a date
[41:52]
where it says date application completed
[41:55]
but there's no date filled out blank.
[42:00]
Let me
[42:09]
[clears throat]
[42:31]
» [snorts]
[42:34]
» Okay. [laughter] Yeah. Want to come on
[42:36]
up?
[42:48]
» Okay. So,
[42:53]
we have
[42:55]
chickens.
[43:10]
We're in the what?
[43:11]
>> Neighborhood.
[43:13]
I mean,
[43:18]
does anybody have any questions here?
[43:20]
>> You're in a MR12.
[43:22]
So, can I ask? So, before you decided to
[43:28]
purchase these tickets and bring them to
[43:31]
your home. Did you think there was any
[43:33]
kind of regulations on that with the
[43:35]
town?
[43:36]
>> So, um, in couple of streets throughout
[43:40]
our time living in Lake before where we
[43:42]
live, there have been people with
[43:43]
chickens. So, we didn't realize that.
[43:46]
>> Well, there was a woman up on Lafayette
[43:49]
and they had chickens. Her chickens are
[43:51]
all gone.
[43:53]
They were taken off the property.
[43:56]
because you're in an MR12,
[43:59]
you know, it's not there's a lot all
[44:02]
that green right behind you on that map,
[44:05]
that's all agricultural land.
[44:08]
About that map, it's [clears throat]
[44:09]
interesting. Um, our neighbors uh ways
[44:12]
down, they have 13 acres. They're also
[44:15]
in MR12 because they live like on the
[44:18]
wrong side of 31, I guess you could say.
[44:20]
And I don't understand why they couldn't
[44:22]
have chickens either. It's just the way
[44:24]
it's zoned.
[44:27]
Yeah.
[44:27]
>> Yeah. I I don't know.
[44:29]
>> 12 high density neighborhood.
[44:32]
>> They have 13 acres. I [laughter] know we
[44:34]
don't have 13. I know we have almost a
[44:36]
half acre of land.
[44:41]
» We have neighbors on three sides instead
[44:44]
of four.
[44:46]
>> If somebody came in here with an MR2,
[44:48]
they had 13 gres
[44:51]
and they had six or 10 chickens. They
[44:54]
got a lot more spots to put those sh
[44:59]
>> Yeah, we have a a pen that's 13 feet by
[45:02]
four feet,
[45:03]
>> right? But they don't have a neighbor.
[45:07]
>> Well, about the neighbors, we have
[45:08]
actually met more neighbors than we ever
[45:11]
had except they come and visit us and
[45:12]
say hi. Just because we have chickens,
[45:14]
we've met the most neighbors ever this
[45:16]
past summer.
[45:18]
>> I know it's sad, but it's
[45:22]
regulations.
[45:23]
that we can ask for.
[45:33]
» Just do you have any other
[45:37]
questions for him? Anything you'd like
[45:38]
to talk about?
[45:42]
Just feeling
[45:47]
I don't know what it is.
[45:50]
I understand why
[46:01]
>> Almost a half acre.
[46:06]
But you look at that
[46:08]
half acre. You got a very nice house
[46:11]
sitting on that acre. Half acre. You got
[46:14]
it. It's got a attached garage. Then you
[46:16]
have a second garage. It's a good size
[46:19]
garage. And then you have a swimming
[46:21]
pool.
[46:22]
Then you have a deck and it takes all
[46:25]
that away.
[46:26]
>> And we have a large side yard or
[46:28]
whatever you call it.
[46:29]
>> Front yard.
[46:30]
>> Whatever you want to call it.
[46:33]
>> When you live down by the lake, anything
[46:35]
the lake is your front yard,
[46:37]
right?
[46:38]
>> Yeah. It doesn't really matter what you
[46:39]
call it. It's just it's a nice part of
[46:42]
land we have there.
[46:46]
Um,
[46:49]
are you are you ready? Do you want to
[46:51]
vote on it or do anybody have any more
[46:53]
questions or anything more clear up?
[47:00]
» Remember,
[47:02]
>> all three of you have to vote in favor
[47:04]
of it to for it to get approved because
[47:07]
of the way the rules work in your state.
[47:09]
Your five person board takes three to
[47:11]
approve it.
[47:15]
Okay.
[47:16]
>> So, does that mean we can come back and
[47:18]
verify?
[47:19]
>> You can, but
[47:22]
hearing this more often.
[47:27]
[laughter]
[47:31]
So, I just want to make sure.
[47:33]
>> Yeah.
[47:35]
I I I'm so confused because like
[47:39]
chickens are really beneficial with
[47:42]
their eggs and with what they do like
[47:44]
the eating like bugs and things that
[47:46]
aren't helpful. I don't I understand
[47:48]
like I mean places usually allow
[47:50]
chickens. I don't really understand
[47:52]
what's so harmful to them.
[47:54]
>> Free rolling chicken. No,
[47:56]
>> they have a cage and it's a a tractor so
[47:59]
we can move it around the yard so that
[48:01]
it can a it's sanitary for the chickens
[48:03]
and it also is he cleans it up every
[48:06]
day. So that
[48:10]
» you can you can only approve up to six.
[48:13]
You're not allowed to approve more than
[48:15]
six
[48:15]
>> six. [clears throat]
[48:16]
>> I know they like to have 10, but it's
[48:18]
you don't have that power.
[48:21]
>> So I will ask this question. Do you want
[48:22]
to wait till the next month until
[48:24]
there's five or do you want us to vote
[48:26]
on it tonight?
[48:28]
>> That's your choice.
[48:30]
>> But if the moratorium's in place, you
[48:32]
can't you can't vote on it, but that the
[48:34]
application's frozen by our moratorum.
[48:37]
So,
[48:38]
>> Tom, we're voting on that moratorium
[48:40]
tomorrow, right?
[48:41]
>> That's what I thought.
[48:42]
>> Yeah. I don't I didn't I didn't I don't
[48:44]
know what the board's going to do. I'm
[48:45]
not sure if they're gonna vote in favor
[48:47]
of the moratorium or not.
[48:49]
little bit of
[48:50]
>> Can you explain? I don't really
[48:52]
understand the moratorum.
[48:53]
>> No, you're right. I'm sorry. So, so in
[48:56]
land use, sometimes in land use, a tool
[49:00]
that a town has is to recognize that if
[49:04]
we want to pass a law and there's some
[49:05]
pending applications and things, we can
[49:08]
call a timeout. Town call timeout
[49:10]
through a moratorum. The law moratorium
[49:12]
means to stop. We're not going to
[49:14]
consider any more. might be a wind farm,
[49:16]
might be garages or whatever. Could be
[49:19]
anything. In your case, if that the
[49:22]
proposed law, the mortorium has to do
[49:25]
with foul exactly what you want to do
[49:27]
and gets approved tomorrow night. It
[49:29]
[clears throat] freezes every
[49:30]
application in place until the town
[49:34]
board decides what they want to do with
[49:36]
those regulations. So then they if they
[49:39]
do it then they have I think we did it
[49:40]
for six months or a year, I forget. Then
[49:42]
they have to [clears throat] sit down
[49:43]
and work out are we going to change the
[49:44]
regulations? How would we like them to
[49:46]
read? And it happens quite more than you
[49:48]
think, but most recent ones we've been
[49:50]
doing have been wind laws and solar
[49:53]
projects and things like that. So that
[49:56]
just gives you an idea. But in this
[49:57]
case, this one deals with chicken.
[50:00]
>> So does that mean that a lot of our
[50:02]
community members in Sullivan County
[50:04]
want for Sullivan want to have chickens?
[50:07]
Is that
[50:07]
>> No, it doesn't mean any one way or the
[50:09]
other. just just means that the board
[50:11]
was was asked to consider a moratorum
[50:13]
because the town had been getting a
[50:15]
whole bunch of chicken applications
[50:16]
recently.
[50:17]
>> So, it sounds like they do.
[50:18]
>> You are you are like the last latest
[50:20]
[clears throat] in a in a
[50:21]
>> a lot of chickens.
[50:22]
>> I'll say this, your application is by
[50:24]
far the best. You guys are the
[50:26]
[clears throat] most wellprepared.
[50:27]
Explain yourselves really well. But the
[50:29]
underlining issue is can does a town
[50:32]
want to consider allowing chickens in
[50:35]
certain areas? And that's that's where
[50:37]
you got caught up in a moratorum for
[50:39]
now.
[50:40]
>> But if the board comes back, oh, we're
[50:42]
just going to keep allowing it, then you
[50:43]
can you can still be considered for or
[50:45]
if they go, "No, we're not doing this."
[50:46]
Then you're going to be out of luck. But
[50:48]
[laughter]
[50:49]
the other problem you have, there's only
[50:50]
three board members here tonight. One of
[50:52]
them says, "I I'm not comfortable that
[50:55]
you really aren't going to get those
[50:56]
chickens,
[50:57]
>> right?"
[50:58]
>> So then if we went with a moratorum,
[51:00]
would we be able to keep the chickens
[51:02]
during that time? Technically, well,
[51:05]
you'd be in violation.
[51:07]
>> Technically, you'd be in violation. It's
[51:08]
not a
[51:10]
>> even though it's not decided yet.
[51:12]
>> Yeah. Because you're not approved to
[51:13]
have the chickens right now. It's such a
[51:15]
catch 22 different sides. It's a little
[51:19]
weird. It's a very strange situation.
[51:20]
Yeah. If you have the chickens, you're
[51:22]
probably supposed to have gotten that
[51:23]
special use permit before. You could
[51:25]
have. I don't know if you would have.
[51:26]
>> And meanwhile, you know, [clears throat]
[51:29]
are you prosecuting this or is uh Kim. So we have a animal control officer
[51:36]
and that that falls under her
[51:38]
jurisdiction.
[51:40]
>> It does sound like the people wanting
[51:41]
chickens. [laughter]
[51:45]
Um,
[51:49]
» I guess we're at your mercy.
[52:00]
» Regardless, we can only approve up to
[52:02]
six.
[52:04]
>> We do have friends who really would like
[52:06]
our chickens, the four chickens, because
[52:07]
they lay eggs really well.
[52:10]
[clears throat]
[52:18]
Correct.
[52:22]
[clears throat]
[52:29]
» They're just talking
[52:31]
deliberations. You should give them a
[52:33]
few minutes.
[52:34]
>> Yes.
[52:39]
» [cough]
[52:48]
» So whatever we do tonight,
[52:54]
if you voted for it, if you voted
[52:56]
against it, it ends up
[53:01]
taking in
[53:05]
um what they either
[53:10]
notori
[53:13]
that's that's the moratorum is going to
[53:15]
be nine months
[53:16]
>> nine months right
[53:18]
>> I can't I can't remember was it a year
[53:21]
or six or nine I can't remember
[53:23]
>> I do so many I can't remember
[53:25]
>> it was a nine okay
[53:27]
>> the middle
[53:29]
>> so mortorium will be put in for nine
[53:31]
months and they'll do a study for it and
[53:34]
then after the nine months they'll
[53:36]
decide if they want keep it or adjust
[53:38]
it, tweak it.
[53:43]
But everything will be frost angles.
[53:57]
[snorts]
[54:03]
Well, they can still come back.
[54:10]
I think I think the issue is this. I'll
[54:12]
cut right to it. If you don't vote and
[54:15]
all three of you vote in favor for them
[54:16]
to keep up to six chickens, they'll have
[54:19]
to remove them because Kim's going to
[54:21]
take them. So,
[54:22]
>> yeah.
[54:23]
>> If the moratorum, which does the
[54:25]
moratorum passes or doesn't pass,
[54:27]
[clears throat]
[54:28]
>> it doesn't matter because if you if you
[54:30]
didn't vote to allow them to keep the
[54:31]
six chickens, they're still they're
[54:32]
still going to get tickets for them. If
[54:34]
the moratorum comes into place and they
[54:37]
and the town board decides, yes, this is
[54:39]
a great place for chickens, they can
[54:40]
come back and apply for it again. They
[54:42]
want to, but in the meantime, their
[54:44]
chickens will have to
[54:46]
go home to roost somewhere else.
[54:48]
>> Yes.
[54:56]
» We'll do a low vote.
[54:59]
I'll vote first. If anybody has
[55:00]
any comments on why they vote the way
[55:03]
they are, they'd like to explain it to
[55:04]
the people.
[55:06]
But I'm going to vote nay. No. Yeah. I
[55:11]
don't believe chickens are belong down
[55:13]
by the lake. I don't believe in an MR12.
[55:16]
I mean, do you two people look like
[55:18]
great? I'm sure you take very good care
[55:20]
of your chickens
[55:23]
in the summertime. That's a recreational
[55:25]
area and
[55:28]
people walk up and down roads and they
[55:30]
enjoy that area. It's highly dense.
[55:33]
That's the reason why I vote.
[55:41]
Unfortunately, I'm going to be voting no
[55:43]
as well.
[55:44]
I have nothing against freerange
[55:47]
chickens or chickens in the tractor.
[55:49]
I've seen it successfully done. Um, my
[55:53]
concern literally is just with the size
[55:56]
of the property and approximately where
[55:59]
the location of those chickens would be.
[56:01]
If it was not on the main intersection,
[56:06]
I think it would be different if it was
[56:08]
in the back side of the property.
[56:14]
Okay. [laughter]
[56:17]
Um the fact that the town
[56:21]
board
[56:24]
working on this too
[56:28]
pass
[56:32]
they go with it you
[56:39]
know
[56:42]
the chicken
[56:43]
>> I'm sorry [laughter] I wish you would
[56:45]
have done your homework.
[56:48]
Thank you.
[56:54]
[laughter]
[57:06]
[snorts]
[57:06]
>> You said you couldn't find the date.
[57:08]
>> No, I don't think Jeff Taylor is here
[57:10]
anyhow.
[57:12]
>> [laughter]
[57:14]
» What was that, sir?
[57:22]
» You're on You're on the agenda. Come
[57:24]
back next month.
[57:24]
>> Yes, I said.
[57:26]
>> Okay, we'll see you next month on your
[57:28]
garage. [snorts]
[57:30]
>> What day is that?
[57:31]
>> Um I believe that's six
[57:34]
>> first Tuesday.
[57:35]
Let me check. It's the
[57:37]
first Tuesday of April
[57:39]
>> at 6:45.
[57:40]
>> 6:45.
[57:42]
>> No, no, no public hearing.
[57:43]
>> No public hearing.
[57:44]
>> Sorry.
[57:46]
>> I'll be here.
[57:48]
>> 7. Yeah.
[57:50]
>> 7:00.
[57:52]
>> Thank you.
[58:03]
» Yeah. Gota have real
[58:10]
» should be in two weeks before the actual
[58:13]
[laughter]
[58:14]
>> understood. Okay. Uh the old business is
[58:17]
Jeff Taylor, but I don't believe he's
[58:19]
here.
[58:19]
>> I don't think he's here. Rick Myers, he
[58:22]
didn't show up.
[58:23]
>> He called.
[58:25]
>> Yeah. And as to be
[58:26]
>> the gentleman in the back with a hat on.
[58:28]
>> Sorry.
[58:30]
>> Rick will be here next month. He didn't
[58:31]
>> I was here for that tonight.
[58:33]
I was here for the tickets. [laughter]
[58:37]
>> Go make an offer.
[58:39]
>> They're for sale.
[58:42]
>> Rick's gonna be here next month. Talk.
[58:44]
Give us what information about
[58:46]
population density creating it.
[58:49]
>> Where are we going?
[58:51]
[laughter]
[58:52]
>> I should have never said anything about
[58:53]
your hair.
[58:53]
>> Yeah.
[58:57]
» All right. Can I have a motion close to
[58:59]
>> here?
[59:02]
All in favor?
[59:03]
>> Yeah.
[59:22]
» The three meetings.
[59:29]
So there's there's your