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I thought that was really cool. Evening, ladies and gentlemen, regular
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meeting. Universal city, city council called the order for
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february 18th. It is 6:31 pm call
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for a quo check. Mayor time fitzpatrick. Here.
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council member bowman. Here. Council member goldsby. Here. Council
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member. Put here. Council member rubal. Here. Council member vaughan
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second. We have a form. Okay,
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we'll, uh, I've got the invocation tonight.
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and then from there we'll go with the p of allegiance and then proceed. Please stand
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please. Heavenly
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father, as we gather today, we ask for your guidance and wisdom in our discussions.
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help us listen attentively to one another with open hearts and minds, and make
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decisions that reflect your will and serve the common good of our citizens.
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we thank you for bringing us together and for your blessings on our time here.
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amen. I pledge allegiance
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to the honor of the united states of america and to the
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republic for which stands, one nation under god,
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invis to liberty and justice. For honor,
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honor, texas. File pledge allegiance to be texas.
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one state under god on in .
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be seated. Uh, council has got
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other duties tonight and can't be here, so call for a motion for approval. Move to
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approve. Second aye. Call for, uh, vote.
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council member bowman aye. Council member goldsby aye. Mayor
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fitzpatrick. Aye. Council member put aye. Council, memberal
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aye. Motion carried. Uh, first on the agenda
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is citizens to be heard. Uh, before we move into citizens
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to be heard, majority of the folks
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are here for the coronado school
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district. Is that correct? Anyone that's on the list? Not for the
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coronado school district. Okay. With that being said, we're gonna go through with the
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citizens to be heard. Um, I'd like to bring a couple of things to, to light
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though, as promised, at the last meeting I was gonna discuss with, uh, superintendent,
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I had a personal meeting with dr. Fields superintendent of, uh,
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judson, isd, and he is in agreement to have
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a town hall meeting, yet had, in fact, he was in planning one. I have sent
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personal invitations to each of the council members, inviting them to the town hall meeting,
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which is on the 24th at coronado in the dining in the, uh, cafeteria
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at 6:30 pm I will be there. Uh, I
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encourage you to go to the regular school board meeting, which is
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february 20th, thursday night, and at the location of that one
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is the judson, uh, school board room. The reason why I'm asking
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you to do this, the is imperative that you get your
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word heard by the board members of the judson, isd
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and the count and the, uh, uh, superintendent staff.
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they're the ones that are gonna be making the decision. We can go in with any type of
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a, of a comment, negative or positive. It has no sway. We
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have no sway on the school board. Uh, your vote is the one that put those
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school board members in there. So with that, we are gonna go ahead and
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we're gonna call up. And, um, you please, uh, each one try
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to come forward with, uh, additional information, not just repeating the same thing if
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at all possible, uh, we are limited your, uh, speech to, uh, three
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minutes and we're gonna hear it. We've only got, uh, about, uh, six, seven
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people signed up. So we'll hear everyone that wants to speak
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and unfortunately we're not gonna be able to discuss it with you. Uh, robert
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whiting, you come.
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state your name and address. Yes, sir. My name is robert whiting. I currently
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reside at 3 2 3 madrid drive in coronado village.
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I thank you for this opportunity to be heard. We are here tonight to represent the save
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our neighborhood committee, a group of taxpayers and voters primarily from
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the coronado village community. We are concerned that allowing the judge and
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ic to repurpose the coronado village elementary school into
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a disciplinary alternative education program will impact our resident
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safety, decrease property values, and prevent attracting new
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families into the neighborhood. In the february 4th, 2025
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city council meeting, you gave us confirmation we could petition
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our neighbors without a permit. To date, we have collected over 200 permits.
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let me take a moment to add to what you said.
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we encourage you, mayor, council members, and everybody
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in this room, uh, to attend not only the town hall scheduled
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for monday, but also for the justin isd board meeting because
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again, it's very important we get you the chance to say a word. If we don't,
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it's our fault and we didn't take the opportunity to do it. Uh, for those,
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the, uh, the meeting will begin at the town hall at six 30 to seven 30,
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and we humbly ask for everybody's support tonight. A few of us would
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like to provide a sort of, like a 30,000 foot view, a big picture,
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uh, perspective of our concerns with the potential repurposing.
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specifically, we will address property values, safety and particular concerns
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expressed by our neighbors and community that we found during this petition process.
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more detailed information is available on our website, cve,
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su do w-e-e-b-l y.com.
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com encourage you to go there. We'll have a lot more detail there.
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many studies show that the proximity and quality of a school has
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a significant impact on the desirability of a neighborhood, which in
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turn affects property value. On december 19th, 2024,
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six outta seven board members from the judson independent school district voted
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to closed the coronado village elementary school. The
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board is now considering repurposing the existing facility,
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um, and they took away the grassland notre, I'm saying coronado
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village elementary school. This elementary school had a rating of six.
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the, uh, j care has a rating of one, which is kind of, we're gonna lose a lot of at
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traction there. Um, and finally, what I'd like to say,
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um, many people we've walked around in the last couple weeks since they closed
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it, they put up for sale signs. And finally, I
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just wanna share a personal experience that I had. I went over and watched
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the students leave, uh, j care and I was, uh,
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really concerned because they leave the campus and they
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disperse. Uh, there's nobody managing 'em. They go to the
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qt. May I just cut by a couple more seconds, sir. Proceed. Thank you
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very much. Um, they proceed and they went into the
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quick trip there at the convenience store. When I walked in,
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the manager was taking, telling a lot of 'em to leave because they
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were loitering. And I asked him, I said, why did you tell them to leave? He said, because they
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continue to come in there day after day after day. They loiter, they block the
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aisles, and they also have been caught stealing. So at this
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point, I'll just hand it over to my other team member and let them talk
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about, uh, safety for you. Thank you very much for this effort. Thank you mr. Whi.
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michelle vos.
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I'm sorry, I said I was just gonna yield my time to robert. No, I don't, I don't need it.
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okay, no problem. But I'll thank you michelle. Uh, james talley.
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my name is james sally. I currently reside at one 30 valencia ado
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village directly across the street from con village elementary school.
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our purpose tonight is to share safety concerns regarding place, a disciplinary
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alternative education program, specifically j care in my neighborhood.
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my wife and I have lived, owned this home, coronado village, lived there since 2005. We
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have other family members, including children, grandchildren, and friends resigning
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in the neighborhood. The potential future home of j care is immediately surrounded
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by over 35 homes and 520 plus homes around the
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neighborhood. Housing families with young children and senior citizens,
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no other daep program within the counties or within surrounding san antonio
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area. And it has a d has a-d-e-a-p
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in the residential section in that area. Everything is on the outside
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or mostly placed in a commercial or urban area. So there's nothing
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that's directly in the center of our neighborhood like it's supposed to, like they want it to be.
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furthermore, I'm concerned about the safety, um, the type of students that
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are placed in j care. The chart being this chart is also on the
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judson independent school district boy, uh, um,
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what's that? Sorry. But, uh, I'm concerned about the safety and, uh,
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examining at the type of students in place in jk. The chart being held
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as a report of the violent criminal incidents in 22 and 23 is from the
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judge and isd website. It contains a number of disciplinary actions between 22
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and 23 of students from judge and isd in the middle school, placing them in a converse
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area and a-d-a-a-p program. Before I cite a couple of statistics,
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note, this data comes from the public education information management system
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encompassing all the data requested and received by the texas education agency from
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all the public schools in texas. Note that they, uh, you can't obviously
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see that on the small writing, but if you did come up that site, you'd be able to tell.
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um, and since you do not have that, um, I'd like
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to cite a couple of reasons for statistics from the report of the code, different
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codes position, for example, code zero four possession
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sold, used or under the influence of marijuana or other controlled substances
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over 380 incidents. Code zero seven
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public lewdness or exposure between 14 and 54
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incidents. Code 11 brought a firearm to school or unlawful
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carrying of a handgun code one eight indecency with a child
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code 22 criminal mischief. Code 26, terrorist threat code
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28, assault against someone other than an employee of volunteer.
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that was over 400 incidents. And even after the students are
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placed in j care, they continue to have serious misbehavior. Well expelled to place d-a-d-a-e-p.
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many of these students since this, also known as class c felons in texas,
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ti title v penal code violation crimes that are punishable by
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less than five years, but no more than one year.
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um, I'm next on your list and I would like to deal my time
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so he can finish just a few more .
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anyway, um, many of these, this is also known
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as a class d felonies of texas title v penal code violations. Crimes are
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punishable by less than five years, but no more than one year of prison. If this what
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you want in your neighborhood of universal city, we don't, especially directly across the street
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from where I live. And let me point out those with, uh, also,
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let me point out those with sexual and assaultive offenses. Texas law and the universal
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city ordinance, making it unlawful to be in the vehicle or remaining
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in or around the area and designated a child safety zone
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means public or commercial and semi-private swimming pools. State law mandates
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that during their term assigned assignment of jc students are prohibited from being
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pa or within 300 feet of any school district property, except that
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on an alternative school, did you also know that justin isd
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owns and facilitates a pool located at 5 0 6 coronado
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boulevard? Well, within the 300 foot restriction next door, the
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coronado village elementary school, this is an explicit violation
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of state law and judson isd rules. I
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wanna read what a former employee of j care reported to us.
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as a former employee of judson alternative schools, I would definitely not want those
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students in my neighborhood. Oesa few may have begged a bad decision.
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some of them learn for their mistakes, but all the students are there because they
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have been knocked, kicked out of their home campus. And not because they are good
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students. Some students may be there for truancy, but most are there
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for fighting drugs, weapons, they aren't building a jail
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in your neighborhood. But most of these students have been in jail or awaiting trial for various things.
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drugs, assault, assault with weapons.
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also stated, when I was there, many were involved in drive-by shootings, other violent offenses.
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one even killed his stepdad. So in closed neighborhood, this type of school
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students is not a good idea. Not judging. It's my personal experience
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with these students. Not all kids are beyond second chance,
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but some are on their last chance. Next stop will be juvenile
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justice academy, jail or prison. As bad as this may sound,
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my next, uh, I'd like to bring up another. You're
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coming up on three, sir. Oh, okay. It was gonna be
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due with the, uh, response to the police department, but, uh,
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I don't have any time for that, I guess. Thank you. I appreciate your time and, uh,
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listening to us. And if you're all interested in coming up to this site, feel
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free to do so. Thank you very much. Thank
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you, sir. Um, ms. Beth parker.
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elizabeth parker, one 11 malaga circle, universal city.
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um, when I spoke to the council on february the fourth, um,
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I saw the judson proposal that, uh, mr. Whiting and mr. Talley have, have, um,
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explained as directly impacting universal city vision
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35, uh, process. Uh, and to just
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continue, uh, some additional information, um, the j care principal
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said that, um, between a hundred and 120 students
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attend daily at the j care program. Um,
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where that to be at coronado village elementary, the, uh, the
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district is proposing an immediate border with this program
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for troubled youth to the 30 plus homes that surround the school,
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including the 10 plus homes with rear or side entry
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garages, which require backing out within inches of school
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property. Judson proposes this border also to parents
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and their students who swim at the judson pool. As, uh, mr. Talley said,
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coronado village has no wide boulevards on two sides, just
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a sidewalk and a street, and two sides have only
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18 foot wide alleys. It's no more appropriate to
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put this alternative school at coronado village, then it
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would be to put it at france elementary in live oak, because
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there's 30 houses also surrounding france. And it wouldn't
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be appropriate to put it at olympia either, because there are 20
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plus houses that surround that school.
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and as, uh, mr. Talley, uh, stated, um, during
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the term of the assignment of the students at j care, they are
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prohibited from being pawn or within legal limits of any school
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property except that of the alternative school. So,
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if j care students are on alternative property
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that is now the elementary school, what are the legal limits? When
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the judson pool property is right there? Uh,
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I feel like, you know, the, the judson school district has tried its best to protect
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other students from the j care, from the j care students,
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but, um, from because of our subdivision layout,
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what protects a child who resides across
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an 18 foot alley or just across the sidewalk in
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a street from the students, a
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child's house is not a child safety zone as defined.
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so I'm asking, can universal city establish
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any kind of legal limits that would prevent the j care program
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from relocating to the elementary school? Uh,
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I feel like uc, because of ordinance 6 0 2, has tried to
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protect students in the, uh, zone, you know, in the safety
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zone. But what about the child that isn't in a safety zone?
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they're also at risk. Thank you.
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thank you, ms. Parker. Uh, rosie stein. I was yielding my
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time to her. Okay. Thank you.
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and mr. Brooks? Dan brooks. Excuse
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me. Me. Daniel brooks. Dan's fine.
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good evening. My name is dan brooks. I am assistant superintendent at judson,
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isd. Um, wanted to talk a little bit about,
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uh, the repurposing of coronado village. Um, as some
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have already stated, we have had meetings concerning the repurposing
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of the school. Um, several of our departments within
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our district did a presentation vying for space at
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the school. Dep was one of those departments along with special education.
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um, and then we also have some others that we've spoken to, um, that
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want to, uh, be considered for coronado village as
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far as their, their departments and their programs coming to, to the school.
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um, what we want to do is we want to
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hear from the community as far as what are your ideas, what are
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the community's ideas as far as what they would like to see,
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um, from coronado village? What should we repurpose it to?
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and so we, um, we have created a survey that we will put on
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our website that we will be asking those questions. Um, some, as I
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said, some have come to the meeting, and so if you, you know, agree
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with what the departments that already presented, um, you can, that there's
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a question on the survey concerning that. And then there's an, an open
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s an open question that asks, you know, what are your ideas, what are your suggestions as
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to what you think jeff and isd should do with coronado
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village? Um, I do want to state that no decision has been made at
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this point. Um, as you stated, uh, mayor maxwell, the, the, the board
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will vote on that to decide whether or not to, um,
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make it whatever we're gonna make it. Uh, again, I I've heard all of the, the dap
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talk, um, and it seems as if people think the decision has been
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made already. Um, is that an option on the table? Yes, that
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is an option on the table. Has that been recommended yet? No, that
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has not been recommended yet. What we will do is once we have gathered all information,
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we being superintendent in the cabinet, once we've gathered all of that information,
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we'll then get together and decide what recommendation we want
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to bring to the school board, and then the school board will vote on the
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recommendation that we bring. So I'm encouraging everyone definitely to
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come to the meeting on the 20th. Um, um, I'm sorry,
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on the 24th, which is the, uh, the town hall meeting
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there, we'll discuss and hear from the community as far as what are your ideas,
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what do you want to see, um, as far as coronado village and what would you
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like it to be? Um, and then from there, like I said, we will gather information
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and, uh, we'll give a recommendation to the board. And from there, the board will make a
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decision. But I do want to say that I, I understand the concern
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should, you know, the dap be something that that is considered.
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I do understand the, the concerns and, um, we are looking at
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all aspects of whatever programs come that we decide on. So
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just wanna make sure that everyone is, is, is up to date and understand where
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we are in the process. Okay? Thank you. Thank you, mr. Brooks.
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um, I want to stress, again, I encourage, I should
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say, your attendance at the, uh, town hall meeting especially.
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I will not be able to attend the meeting wednesday or tuesday night, uh,
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thursday night on the 20th, because I will be out town at a, at, uh, that
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a texas municipal lead conference. The, um,
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for anyone who is going to be at the town hall meeting on the council, please let
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maribel know so that we can make a announcement for possible quorum if
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necessary. And with that being said,
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since this be heard, it's closed out.
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okay, next comes up is, uh, staff reports and discussion items. Uh, city manager
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report. I have no report. Uh, uh, uh, mr. Mayor,
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uh, michael's gonna come up and do a brief overview of the
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fence ordinance since we changed it a year plus ago, just to give you counsel
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an idea of where we are on that and how that's working out amongst the residents.
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okay?
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okay. Thank you, mayor council.
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so we have put together a presentation to over
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basically one year of the new ordinance, uh, being in effect.
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and so, next slide please.
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so, as you recall, uh, back in 2023 in october,
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city council updated the, uh, fence ordinance
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and basically came up with three buckets, uh, three different categories for,
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uh, permitting. Uh, one is the $85 permit and inspection.
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second is a $25 permit, which was a reduction. Uh, all permits
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were $85 for fences at that time. Uh, that category was reduced
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to 25, uh, dollars for major fence maintenance.
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and then there's a third category, no permanent fee or inspection required.
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and that was for minor fences. And so just below that, in
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the second table, those columns explain what each of those categories means.
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so then it's been over a year, but we looked at next
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slide, please. We looked at defense data from november 1st, 2023
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to october 31st, 2024. And as the table shows
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with the new breakdown, we issued 112 $25
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fence permits, which again was major fence repair,
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uh, totaling $2,800 and then $85 fence permits. There were 25
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that were issued for a total of 2125.
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we did about the same that we normally do. On average, we have 135
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permits. Fence permits issued a year, and during that year, we issued
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137 total dollars. Our revenue brought
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in was $4,925. Uh, just to put
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it in perspective, uh, that would mean that if we had
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not adopted the ordinance and we issued the same number of permits, that would've brought in
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a revenue stream of $11,645. So we
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brought in $6,720 less than we did the previous year.
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next slide. So from a code compliance standpoint,
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for that same year, uh, we issued, well,
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we had 26 total code compliance cases. And as you see,
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um, 14 folks did not obtain a permit. Um, so
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we had to issue them or have them go through the normal process, and they complied.
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uh, 11, uh, offenses were found to be dilapidated. And
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so they went through the process to correct those infractions. And then there was one,
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uh, fence that was installed as a back to back fence. Um, as you
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see, uh, zero citations were issued. So that means that working
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with those residents, we were able to, uh, resolve those issues.
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next slide. From a variance standpoint, uh,
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we did go back to 2019, uh, for the year that we were really looking
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at. It's about the same as those previous, um, both
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of the variance requests were for height issues, and so they were granted,
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uh, their, uh, variance requests by the board of adjustment.
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and that is all I have. Any questions from
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the council? No.
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what do you mean by back to that? I'm sorry, ma'am. We're not, that's
[25:54]
not audience engagement. Sorry.
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thank you, mr. Mayor. Uh, michael, can, can you tell me the revenue
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generated by fence permitting for new
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builds developments in the city?
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so do you mean new houses developments in the city?
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uh, no, I cannot because we don't issue a separate permit for those. If it's for a new
[26:21]
development, such as crossing for a new single family, um, residence,
[26:26]
then that, uh, fence that's gonna be installed if a fence is installed, is
[26:30]
part of the building permit for that home. So it's not separate. So that's fine. Within the
[26:34]
building permit, that is actually a, a, a checkoff in the building
[26:38]
permit, yes. That
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you can install on fence without a permit? No, they do have a permit
[26:47]
for the house, which includes the fence.
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okay. A separate permit is not issued. When a new house is constructed.
[26:58]
a preponderance of the developers or builders will include the fence
[27:02]
as part of their sales package to the residence. And so they
[27:07]
will have it on that set of plans. It's a flat fee to
[27:11]
construct a house. It's the same fee whether they have a fence or not have a fence
[27:15]
on that residential plans. So we don't track new build fences.
[27:21]
so for the apartment complexes that are going up, uh, the fences are included in
[27:25]
those plans as well. So there's no separate permit for a fence
[27:30]
and fences for c five properties. What,
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what regulations associated with fences for c five? If it's a new build, it's part of that package,
[27:38]
most likely. If it's not, it's an existing, uh, commercial,
[27:43]
uh, building and they wanna install a fence, then they have to get a fence permit.
[27:49]
so there is a regulation, however, for c five properties
[27:53]
to have fences when adjoining or associated with
[27:57]
the other neighborhoods. Is that correct? Yeah, it's in the code as you're well aware.
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it is in the code, yes. Okay. Thank you.
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any comments from the council? Yes, sir. What is a back to back fence,
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? So a back-to-back fence is when two neighbors right
[28:15]
on the property line, essentially, most people install their fence for residential,
[28:19]
um, six inches from their lot line or on the lot line.
[28:24]
and then the neighbors can't get along and they want to each put up a
[28:28]
fence, they install them back to back. And so the reason why the
[28:32]
city, um, does not allow those is because generally if you have two
[28:36]
wooden back to back fences, it creates a rat run.
[28:40]
and so from a maintenance standpoint, you got a bunch of critters living back there and it's hard
[28:44]
to, uh, get the grass cut between. So that's
[28:49]
the general idea. Any other questions? Yes, ma'am. So
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in the last year, have things gone smoother? Do we have
[28:57]
happier residents than we had when they were paying $85?
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'cause it really took a lot to get that done. The council really worked on it.
[29:06]
so was it worth it or you feel like
[29:10]
well, you put me on the spot. Yeah, try generally, uh, based on the feedback,
[29:14]
I I, I really would say that there hasn't
[29:19]
been that much, um, pushback. Well, not pushback. There hasn't
[29:23]
been that much cheering either, is that people are gonna, there's still a $25
[29:27]
permit fee. So 19 april. Yeah. I gotcha.
[29:31]
okay. Thank you. Well,
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no other questions or comments? Uh, with that, uh, council member goldsby always has
[29:39]
your back. Sorry, didn't resist that. Didn't resist
[29:44]
that. Next come back to, um, public
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announcements. Uh, our announcements, I should say. Council and, uh, manager announcements.
[29:53]
uh, this is the area where anything that on, on the agenda that may be of a community
[29:57]
interest is free for free. Action. City manager. Announcement.
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first, I have no announcements. Thank you. Your announcement? I have a couple of three. The,
[30:06]
uh, snow fest was this weekend, uh, we had great success, uh, great weather
[30:10]
to go with it. Uh, it started out nice and cold, ended up being nice and warm, and
[30:15]
I think just ticket sales were around the 5,000 mark, which was
[30:19]
really good. Um, uh, also just fyi, uh, meals
[30:23]
on wheels are, uh, in the local area. We have quite a few families
[30:27]
that, uh, are supported by meals on wheels, and it's not disadvantaged individuals.
[30:31]
there's people primarily that, uh, do not have the opportunity to have a three
[30:36]
square meals a day type situation. Uh, I've assisted in volunteering
[30:40]
in, uh, providing meals or, or delivering meals
[30:44]
a couple of times. Uh, mar next month march is going to be the
[30:48]
national meals on wheels month in the san antonio area, including, uh,
[30:53]
outlying areas. And they're looking for volunteers that would like
[30:57]
to divert. And I'm inviting the council to volunteer to
[31:01]
help deliver in, in during the month. Any citizens that
[31:05]
would like to also volunteer will be there also. I'm gonna leave this up here. We'll have it posted
[31:10]
on our website so that the information is available for everyone.
[31:14]
um, with that being said, I'll turn it over. Um, oh,
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I had the, so I started council member , do you have
[31:22]
anything? Oh, yes. Thank you. Um, so regarding the coronado village,
[31:27]
I reached out to a couple of the board members. Um, and it was
[31:31]
interesting to see that the, uh, the two different,
[31:36]
uh, schools of thought on, on
[31:40]
what is happening back and forth, the, the play back
[31:44]
and forth. But I, I do urge you to go out to the meetings,
[31:49]
let them know, regardless of what mr. Brooks has said, um, they
[31:53]
need to know your feelings, the information y'all put together and presented tonight.
[31:58]
fantastic. That stuff is solid. That's what, that's, that's what we need
[32:02]
to, you need to lead with at, at those, at that meeting. Um, both
[32:06]
meetings. Um, make sure they, make sure they hear you, because
[32:12]
what they also need to understand, and I said it last council meeting,
[32:16]
is that judson can't really pass a bond without the support of universal
[32:20]
city. So as long as, as long as they understand that, I
[32:24]
think that, that, that's a, that's a, that's a heavy
[32:28]
stick to, to take with you. So there's my 2 cents. Thank you, sir.
[32:32]
very good. Ms. Bowman. Um, yeah, I appreciate
[32:37]
everyone who came out. Like I said, last time you guys came out to, I owned a house
[32:41]
in coronado. I lived on valencia. I lived right next to that school. I was neighbors with
[32:45]
actually a lot of you. So I understand. I, I plan on being at both those meetings.
[32:50]
I, my kind of position on it is from a fiscally financially
[32:54]
sound thing, I just, I think the school should be closed. I just, like I said, I,
[32:58]
I would be more than happy to come out and voice that opinion. I'm always for saving the taxpayers
[33:02]
money. And I just feel like that's a real good way to do it. So, um, like I
[33:07]
said, I'm gonna try to make both those meetings. I'll try to stand up and speak for you guys if they let
[33:11]
me. And that's about it. Yes, councilman
[33:18]
fest was amazing. We went in the afternoon. I couldn't believe it, but I wanna thank
[33:22]
you all for coming. The presentation was, was great. I love that there wasn't a lot of
[33:26]
repetitiveness that went on. So hopefully I'm going to plan on being there,
[33:31]
um, to show support and to listen. But thank you all
[33:35]
for coming. This is what we're about. .
[33:39]
yes. Thank you. I'm gonna just reiterate, fest was awesome and I appreciate
[33:44]
all of the efforts that went in from city staff and the volunteers. That event
[33:48]
would never happen without everybody throwing in and having a great time. And it was nice to
[33:52]
see. It was awesome to come out and walk out and watch everybody be happy. Um,
[33:56]
coronado village people. I also live in coronado village, so it is a topic
[34:00]
that's near and dear to my heart. I appreciate your passion and I appreciate your thoughtfulness
[34:05]
and how much effort you put into the presentation. And as lori said, I appreciate know
[34:09]
repeats, you know, you covered different topics. That's a great way to plan
[34:13]
that out. Um, I also think we've encouraged you
[34:17]
to go to the meetings to talk to the school board, to come to the town, um, town hall.
[34:22]
I would also encourage you to either call or potentially email the cabinet because if you
[34:26]
heard what dr. Brook, dr. Brooks said is the cabinets kind
[34:30]
of talking about this right now. And they're gonna make a recommendation to the school board
[34:34]
to vote. And so maybe you can also get in front of them before they make the
[34:38]
recommendation or make sure that they understand that you're talking to them as well.
[34:42]
um, and then I will not be in attendance, so I won't be there on thursday. 'cause I will also
[34:46]
be with, um, mayor maxwell in austin at the texas policy
[34:51]
summit. So thank you mr. Val. Yes.
[34:58]
the reason why I moved to coronado village was because of the elementary
[35:02]
school there, the safety of getting the kids, my kids to and from that school
[35:06]
40 years ago. I'm the proud father of
[35:10]
two judson valedictorians.
[35:15]
so basically I can, I appreciate the way
[35:20]
judson has provided for us in the past.
[35:26]
I think the moves are in directions
[35:31]
that are counter to residents, and I hope to
[35:36]
support our residents at the monday meeting.
[35:40]
I will be out of state for the thursday meeting, so I hope to be
[35:44]
there. And, um, uh, this pen, uh, will
[35:48]
write on a piece of paper that, uh, uh, you circulate tonight.
[35:55]
oh, one more, right. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Mr. Mayor.
[36:00]
okay. Almost forgot. . Mr. Mayor, fellow
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council members, I move to change ordinance 5 8 1
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y 2 0 3, uh, two three.
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uh, this is the fence ordinance. The reason for the change is fence maintenance
[36:19]
and fence repair remain issues within our city, not
[36:23]
only for the aesthetics of our neighborhoods, but also for the safety,
[36:27]
security, and privacy of our residents. Prior councils
[36:31]
have made efforts to streamline our fencing ordinance and express
[36:35]
concerns regarding the repair or maintenance that alters the
[36:39]
fence, the ground clearance, uh, for stormwater runoff.
[36:45]
the suggested change to this ordinance preserves
[36:50]
the concerns of former council members and simplifies the
[36:54]
definition of allowable fence repair for our residents to be
[36:58]
in kind, repair and replacement. The ladder
[37:03]
removes arbitrary rules for the number of pickets and posts,
[37:08]
reduces the, uh, burden of permit fees for in-kind
[37:12]
replacement for residents and encourages fence repair
[37:16]
throughout our city. It simplifies the definition
[37:21]
of allowable fence repair. Finally,
[37:26]
it removes some of the time burden for inspections, uh,
[37:30]
uh, for which our city now contracts services,
[37:34]
uh, uh, uh, from, uh, develop, uh, from development
[37:39]
services. I specifically recommend
[37:43]
that the $25 permit fee
[37:48]
be deleted. That the concerns
[37:52]
for fence construction, uh, uh, with regard to water
[37:57]
runoff be placed in the permitting column,
[38:02]
that the in kind replacement within the center
[38:06]
tier be placed within the permit free,
[38:11]
uh, column. I've made specific recommendations
[38:15]
for line item changes to this effect. It
[38:20]
eliminates the arbitrary designation of
[38:24]
17, of, of 17 pickets and two posts.
[38:29]
I offer this for the council's consideration for a second
[38:33]
to, uh, discuss and, uh, put on a future agenda,
[38:38]
uh, to change, uh, this ordinance. Thank
[38:42]
you, mr. Mayor. So our request has been made to, uh, put this on an additional
[38:47]
agenda. I discussion with that. So, discussion.
[38:51]
we can talk about this just, uh, yes, no, for the agenda. If
[38:55]
you wanna object for agenda. Can I say why? I'm gonna say no. I may, you may say
[38:59]
yes. Um, arbitrary is a very frustrating word to hear
[39:04]
as one of the council members who spent hours
[39:08]
more than a few hours talking and listening
[39:13]
and negotiating back and forth on how
[39:17]
we took six people plus staff,
[39:22]
staff, staff, staff and staff to come up with
[39:26]
a solution that met everybody's
[39:30]
needs. It not only took care of what mr.
[39:34]
casada was talking about, about how, you know, look, this is a lot. We, there's
[39:38]
a lot of revenue that is lost on that. Well, the city's not in the business of making
[39:43]
revenue. We, we try to break even, but we decided,
[39:47]
you know what, let's take one for the citizens and we'll find, we'll, we'll,
[39:51]
we'll, we'll pull that down. Arbitrary. It's not arbitrary.
[39:56]
the 17 pickets is, uh, basically the number of pickets on
[40:00]
a, on sections of fence. So
[40:05]
all of it is not arbitrary. There's not,
[40:09]
I don't know any of it that's arbitrary. I think a lot of it was negotiation
[40:13]
and compromise. So, no, I can't
[40:18]
get behind, spend another hour on a fence
[40:23]
ordinance, mr. Mayor,
[40:27]
point of order. I believe once a motion is made
[40:31]
and it's been seconded, it's open for discussion. And the discussion
[40:35]
at this point would be to consider it for
[40:40]
a, a future agenda. That's what we're considering right now. He's just giving, he's giving his, uh, his opinion
[40:44]
with his, uh, with his answer. So, uh, we know your yes, and we know
[40:48]
that, uh, uh, ms. Bowman's a yes for, for adding it. So I'm just taking
[40:52]
the votes. Now, this is not an agenda item, so I'm not making an agenda item.
[40:57]
I'm making it, giving it the opportunity to be a future agenda
[41:01]
item based on the council. I'm not making a decision. So
[41:05]
now, so I'm assuming you're a yes. Yes. Okay,
[41:09]
ms. Bud, I'm a, no. I sat in here and listened to
[41:13]
every painful word for many painful hours, and I think there's a lot
[41:17]
more important things that we can do on this dais. I believe what
[41:21]
we saw today that there really isn't a problem. And
[41:26]
we're, we're getting into the weeds really deep
[41:30]
, ditto and no. Okay. Consensus
[41:35]
that the, uh, of the counsel is a no move.
[41:39]
uh, action items. Uh, first item up is the, uh, audit for
[41:43]
fy 2024. Thank you. Uh,
[41:47]
ms. David presentation. This, uh, she
[41:51]
along with janet. We have the consent agenda first. Oh,
[41:55]
I apologize. We do, we have the minutes. Thank you, maribel.
[42:02]
I made my apologies. Uh, I made a check mark and
[42:08]
then I looked at cross side item eight. We need a vote
[42:12]
on the consent item. Consent item. Uh, the agenda is strictly
[42:16]
one item only if there's any disagreements. Thank you, .
[42:22]
move to approve. Second. Uh, any discussion?
[42:26]
call for the vote. Mayor per fitzpatrick aye.
[42:30]
council member goldsby aye. Council member bowman aye. Council member putt
[42:35]
aye. Council member rubal aye. Motion carried. Thank you.
[42:39]
now, now item, um, this item
[42:43]
on the honor. I'll be required to do a motion to accept the honor
[42:48]
and after presentation, and while that presentation is coming up, mayor, maybe
[42:52]
just for the audience, I'll remind them that one of the things the city does annually
[42:56]
is we bring in an outside agency to go through our financial records to
[43:00]
make sure that we are appropriately, uh, placing the funds where they
[43:04]
need to be and the expenses and the revenues, and that we
[43:09]
have, uh, good accounting practices, uh, not only in the
[43:13]
books, but how the division of duties happens among staff, so that there is no,
[43:17]
uh, chance for collusion that'll leave. Selena. Thank you. Thank
[43:22]
you very much for having us. I'm selena jones. I'm a senior audit manager at a bip. And
[43:26]
this is janet pittman. She's the, um, partner in charge of the audit. We audited the financial
[43:30]
statements of the city for the year, ended september 30th, 2024, and
[43:34]
issued an annual financial report for that period. Um, there's several things in that financial
[43:38]
report. There's an independent auditor's report, which is, thank you.
[43:43]
can't do two things at once. . Um, okay. Thank you. Um,
[43:47]
there's the independent auditor's report. There's management's discussion and analysis.
[43:51]
um, there's government wide financial statements, which are converted from the fund financial
[43:55]
statements. There's some notes to the financial statements that gives you additional information and clarifies
[44:00]
those numbers for you. There's some required supplementary information,
[44:04]
such as comparative statements, um, information related to pension and oped,
[44:08]
things like that. There's also some other supplementary information and statistics in the
[44:12]
back. And then there's a compliance section. A part of our audit also included a compliance, um,
[44:16]
some compliance testing. Um, the independent auditor's report is
[44:20]
the letter that we issue. It's page one through three. Um, there's a lot of information
[44:24]
on that report. The most important thing is our opinion. Um, the audit standards that we
[44:28]
followed were gap or generally accepted, um, auditing standards. We also, um,
[44:33]
followed government auditing standards and we also followed uniform guidance. And
[44:37]
the purpose of our audit was to form an independent opinion on whether the financial statements
[44:41]
are presented in accordance with those standards. And our audit opinion is unmodified,
[44:45]
meaning, yes, we found that our opinion is that those financial statements
[44:49]
are presented in accordance with those standards. Um,
[44:54]
the management's discussion and analysis has some really good information for you on kind of how to read
[44:58]
the financial statements and kind of the different information that's included there. Um, there's
[45:02]
some financial highlights. Um, and again, this is management's analysis and discussion.
[45:06]
there's an overview of the financial statements. There's discussion about the government
[45:10]
wide, the converted, which includes long-term assets and liabilities. And there's also, um,
[45:14]
some analysis of the city fund financial statements. You'll also see some budgetary
[45:19]
highlights and then some information about your capital assets and debt, those
[45:23]
long-term liabilities and assets that show up on your converted, um, government-wide financials.
[45:27]
and then there's information on, if you want more information about the, um, financial statements, you
[45:32]
can get that there. I'm gonna briefly go over some financial
[45:36]
highlights, and at the end, if you have any questions, let us know. First I'm gonna
[45:40]
talk about the government-wide financial statements. The assets of the city exceeded the liabilities
[45:44]
or its net position by 101.2 million
[45:48]
as of september 30th, 2024. 46.7 million
[45:52]
of that is government activities. 54.5 million has been
[45:57]
business type activities such as the water storm, storm water, utilities, things
[46:01]
like that. In the golf course, your net position during 2024
[46:06]
increased by 8.5 million from the prior year. 3.4 million
[46:10]
of that was in governmental activities, and 5.1 million of that was
[46:14]
in business type activities. Um, the governmental increase was primarily due to an
[46:18]
increase in some sales tax. You had additional investment earnings. Um, same thing with
[46:22]
business type activities. There were some additional investment earnings and there was also transfer from the
[46:26]
governmental activities to the business type activities.
[46:31]
on pages 18 and 19. Um, there is information on your governmental funds.
[46:37]
our total fund balance was 30.5 million. And again, this is, um,
[46:41]
prior to the conversion. So this is just fund level. Your unassigned fund balance was
[46:46]
17.2 million and 17.1 million. Almost all of that is in your general fund.
[46:50]
if you do a calculation for operating reserves and you exclude your capital outlay, that
[46:54]
equals about 13 months worth of ex operating expenses. Last year,
[46:58]
it was, uh, 12 months. Your restricted fund balance in the general fund
[47:03]
is 216,000. Capital projects is 10.3 million. Debt
[47:07]
service is 765,000. And, um, other special revenue fund is
[47:11]
1.6 million. So you do have some restricted funds in there.
[47:17]
some additional information about your fund financial statements regarding revenue. Revenue was,
[47:21]
um, 26 million for the year, which was a $4.6 million increase.
[47:26]
it was kind of a variety of reasons. Your ad valor tax increased by 730,000,
[47:31]
and that's more due to an allocation between debt service and the general fund. Your
[47:35]
sales tax increased by 174,000. Your investment earnings increased.
[47:39]
general funds revenue was 18.6 million. On paper, it
[47:43]
looks like a reduction, but the reason for that is we pulled out some special revenue funds
[47:47]
out of the general fund in the current year. We're showing them separately now, so it looks like
[47:52]
it's a reduction, but it's not. Truly, there was a 2.2 million of revenue that was now shown as
[47:56]
other, um, other, um, special revenue funds.
[48:02]
um, some information about your expenditures. Expenditures were 18.3 million
[48:06]
for the year, which was a $997,000 increase, primarily due
[48:10]
to three areas. The police, um, expenses increased, fire expenses
[48:14]
increased, and your capital outlay increased, um, by about
[48:18]
300,000, um, roughly for each of those. We also pulled out some non-departmental
[48:23]
stuff out of administration, so it just shows separately. Now,
[48:29]
the next set of financial statements are your proprietary funds, which is water sewer.
[48:33]
um, you'll also notice that we pulled out water impact fees during the current year so that it's
[48:37]
showing separately. So you'll see additional funds under proprietary funds.
[48:42]
your water and sewer fund net position was 40.8 million, which was an
[48:46]
increase of 1.3 million. Um, 8.4 million of that is unrestricted.
[48:50]
32.4 million is net investments in capital assets. Your water
[48:55]
impact fees, which is one of those new funds, this 2.6 million net position sewer
[48:59]
impact fees, 542,000, um, net
[49:03]
position. And both of those are restricted for that use. Your stormwater fund net
[49:07]
position is 8 million, which was an increase of 722,000. 1.2 million
[49:12]
is unrestricted. 6.8 million is investment in capital assets.
[49:16]
your golf fund 2.5 million net position, which was
[49:20]
a slight decrease of 109002.1 million of that is unrestricted
[49:24]
and your net investment in capital assets is 383,000.
[49:30]
lastly that the on page 1 29 to 1 32 was our compliance audit, and
[49:34]
we issued two letters related to that. We did, um, an independent
[49:38]
auditor's report based on government auditing standards, and we found that there were no material weaknesses
[49:43]
and internal controls to report. We also, um, issued a letter on uniform
[49:47]
guidance complied examination on some federal funding that was spent. We also,
[49:51]
uh, found that there were no findings or question cost and that the city complied with all
[49:55]
specific requirements to those guidance. And that's
[49:59]
everything in the presentation, but we'll obviously answer, um, open
[50:04]
it for questions if you have anything. Thank you. Any questions? Yes.
[50:08]
um, so councilman v can't be here tonight, but he did post
[50:12]
on the message board and I thought it was worth the question to ask since
[50:16]
he brought it up. Um, so we had decided at city council
[50:20]
that we had approved $550,000 of the venue tax to
[50:24]
go to the general fund, but instead it shows only 349. 237
[50:29]
went into it. I was just wondering if we could get an answer on absolutely. Um,
[50:34]
we, we did look at that today. This is the draft and that was one change that we did make. It's the only change
[50:38]
that we made in between the draft that you received and the, um, the draft that the final
[50:42]
version that you'll get. Um, that transfer was kind of recorded as a,
[50:46]
it was recorded as a transfer back rather than a due to due from. So we made that
[50:50]
correction and now the transfer shows the full 550,000 and there's a
[50:54]
due to due fund that kind of cancels each other out between the special revenue fund and the general fund.
[50:59]
so that's resolved. Okay. And you'll see that on the new, um, financial statements when they come out.
[51:03]
can you explain the reasoning why? Yeah. The reason is, is because you changed to pool cash
[51:08]
this year, um, which is a little bit different from what you've done in the past. Um, so every, all
[51:12]
cash is kind of combined and at the end of the audit we saw that there was a negative balance
[51:16]
in cash for that fund and we needed to fix that and we
[51:20]
recorded it as a transfer back. Instead, we needed to record it as a due to due from,
[51:24]
so that money will show as money due from a special revenue fund to
[51:28]
the general fund. And it was probably paid back the, um, october 1st
[51:33]
, you know, it was probably already taken care of, but on that specific date, we just needed to record it differently.
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okay. It, that's it. Yes.
[51:42]
yeah. Yes ma'am. Thank you. Uh, actually I spent hours
[51:47]
going through, uh, this report more hours than spent on
[51:51]
on prior offenses, but in in any,
[51:55]
in any case, I really applaud, uh,
[51:59]
the, uh, uh, your organization, uh, for putting
[52:03]
the text and the definitions, uh, within this report.
[52:08]
um, even though government accounting is different
[52:12]
than business accounting and different than cash accounting in your checkbook,
[52:17]
it almost is understandable. And, and
[52:21]
basically, um, the, the frame that I'd like to understand,
[52:26]
and here you express however the information frame, if you will,
[52:31]
is when, when we look at an audit,
[52:35]
my impression, especially from the data that you've
[52:39]
provided, uh, is that the standards for auditing
[52:44]
allow us to look at this snapshot in time.
[52:49]
the snapshot in time is defined by fiscal year, which unfortunately,
[52:55]
uh, new council members will find overlaps, council
[52:59]
years type thing. They're not congruous. So
[53:03]
basically there, there are items and issues in this budget
[53:08]
that weren't approved by this council as a group. There,
[53:12]
there members of diocese that we're here. The second
[53:16]
thing that is important for us
[53:20]
to interpret, I think, and this is very much your feedback,
[53:24]
is that there's relatively limited
[53:29]
value in the snapshot
[53:33]
in looking at long-term debt payment
[53:37]
that's not declared in existing bonds or other
[53:41]
tools, financial tools. So therefore,
[53:47]
the, for example, uh, infrastructure debt of
[53:51]
the city where a hundred streets
[53:55]
need repair is not in any way
[53:59]
in this report. So that when we look at, at, at, at
[54:03]
$30 million to play with some being
[54:08]
restricted funds, uh, type thing, it's, it's really not
[54:12]
there necessarily this, this is a snapshot. Correct.
[54:17]
the other thing I have difficulty with is understanding how,
[54:22]
uh, pensions are derived the
[54:26]
impact of pensions on, on, uh, on the yearly
[54:30]
audit since they're projected forward. So, right.
[54:34]
can you, can you give some insight to me and perhaps other council members
[54:39]
on that? So as, as auditors, we're kind of, we're looking back, we're looking at history
[54:43]
and back as, as the city council, you're looking forward and you're thinking about things forward,
[54:47]
but there is some really valuable information in those financial statements for you. The first is
[54:52]
the conversion and you see what those long-term liabilities and assets are. You don't necessarily need
[54:56]
to see those when you're looking at your budget to actual and when you're budgeting operating expenses.
[55:00]
but it is, you're right, it is valuable and I'm sure everybody is looking at those requirements and
[55:04]
there's a notes to the financial statement that gives, um, those requirements
[55:08]
by year. It gives you a complete breakdown. There's also the, the statistical section
[55:13]
in the back, which gives you patterns and you can kind of see patterns in the past and you
[55:17]
can see where, um, the debt has increased or decreased. So there is information
[55:21]
that will help inform your decisions moving forward. Um, so I hope that answers your
[55:25]
question about that. Um, it is two different things and we're talking about september 30th, 2024
[55:31]
and you, you all are moving forward and you've already gone through the budget process. Um, but
[55:35]
there is really valuable information, um, if you dig into it as far as pensions
[55:39]
and eps. Um, we get those directly every year, um, from
[55:44]
the organization and they use actuarial assumptions every year. It
[55:48]
changes every year. Investments, the way they invest change every year. And you can
[55:52]
look in the back, there's statistical tables for pensions and opep that shows you
[55:56]
how those liabilities have increased or decreased. And you can see where those transitions
[56:01]
have happened. Those are a little bit harder to predict, um,
[56:05]
just because it's such a moving target with those types of things. Um, and
[56:09]
we don't really know that until they've completed their actuarial actuarial assumptions
[56:14]
and made changes. Sometimes they may change how they look at one little thing and it makes a number
[56:18]
drop or increase or anything. So december, do
[56:22]
what the report is december prior to the audit. Yes. And there's some timing issues too, because
[56:26]
that report is as of december 30th every year. So there was a
[56:30]
little bit of a leeway between your year end and their year. So it is a little bit of a complicated,
[56:34]
um, calculation. Um, we do it carefully every year. Those, that
[56:38]
information comes directly from pension and . Um,
[56:43]
so do you have anything else to add? I don't. Okay. No. And the, the, in the last very
[56:47]
basic question is essentially the standard used
[56:51]
by auditors is actually the way I understand
[56:56]
reading about things, uh, on online a little bit worse place
[57:00]
to the go, I know essentially is that it is a moving standard.
[57:04]
there's improved transparency. I've gone through
[57:08]
20 years of city audits and there's definitely improved transparency
[57:13]
as we're, as we move forward. Yeah. And do you see trends in
[57:17]
future audits in this, in this direction? Every year they're,
[57:21]
they're, um, they're sending us updated guidance every year. We have a new
[57:25]
gasb that we have to worry about implement. Yeah.
[57:30]
um, is it 1 0 1 vacation for compensated absences?
[57:34]
so we kind of have to be looking down the pipeline. This is gonna be affecting our clients in one year, two
[57:38]
year, three year, five years. We kind of, so we wanna start talking about those with,
[57:42]
uh, the cities to make sure that we're on top of those things and we're not kind of, um, chasing them.
[57:46]
we're on top of them or expecting them. We know what changes they're gonna, what they're gonna affect.
[57:51]
again, I'm very pleased with this, with this presentation
[57:55]
of amp, the report and the data. I'm very pleased with our financial
[57:59]
officer. Yes. Who works with you. I wanna definitely commend, um, christine and
[58:03]
thank and the team. They, they did a great job. The audit was, um, it, we had a, you
[58:07]
know, a really good experience. Very time. Yeah. Everything was, I went really as smoothly as
[58:12]
it could. Um, and they do a great job of getting us the information that we need. Thank
[58:16]
you. And mrs. Turner's very involved. She looks at all the numbers. . Yes.
[58:21]
no comments. Yeah, I know. We moved some money to
[58:25]
do better. Was this related to what we talked voted at the last meeting for transparency
[58:30]
purposes. Special revenues. Yeah. So so moving some of the money out so
[58:34]
it didn't match up exactly. And that's where, where, um,
[58:38]
selena and janet put it into non-major to, to show
[58:42]
us that we really couldn't be using it within the general fund. That vote made so much more
[58:46]
sense once I saw this and saw what you had done. So thank you for kind of teeing that up for
[58:51]
us. And there is a whole schedule in the back that gives you every single fund a breakdown so
[58:55]
you know exactly what's in there and what's happening. Yeah. Thank you. Used to read all 124.
[58:59]
you mean you don't read? Absolutely. I have memorized part of it, but I have
[59:03]
to give kudos to the council as well. You know, we've always offered for people to come in and go over
[59:08]
the audit with christine and I, and, you know, kudos,
[59:12]
every council member made an effort this year to ask questions about the
[59:16]
audit or to meet with us and or, you know, sought advice elsewhere
[59:20]
on the audit. And we greatly appreciate that because it makes our job easier
[59:24]
when we know what you're questioning, what you're thinking about. Because
[59:28]
sometimes when you ask a question, it forces us to find a
[59:33]
non accounting terms to explain it to everybody and it takes us back to basics.
[59:37]
so, uh, kudos to all of you for that. So I really appreciate it. And then
[59:41]
also maybe an apology. So, you know, since christine and I have gotten here, we have
[59:45]
done a lot to change the budget process. I mean, some of you have been here with us
[59:49]
the whole time. It's been a lot of change in the budget, which then made
[59:54]
a lot of changes in the audit. And then we even made more changes in the audit to
[59:58]
try to make it a little more transparent. So, um, our desire, our
[1:00:02]
hope, our wish is that at some point we will have absolutely nailed down
[1:00:06]
the perfect budget process for you and have an audit
[1:00:10]
that looks the same three years in a row.
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ms, you still make money? Oh, I'm sorry, .
[1:00:20]
I was, I was just gonna, I wanted the audience to know that we are invited
[1:00:24]
to go and sit with them and they explain it until the thickness
[1:00:29]
works. They explain it in layman's terms. You know, not all of us
[1:00:34]
can look at the numbers and really understand what you're going and when we leave,
[1:00:38]
our answers are our questions are answered. So yes, kudos
[1:00:42]
to them for being able to explain it to us and make us really understand
[1:00:47]
what's going on. That being said, uh, call for call for a
[1:00:51]
motion to accept. Motion to accept.
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second, second. Second. And take bernies. I think there's been enough discussion. We'll
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call for the vote. Who is the second? Bernie. Bernie. Okay. Mr.
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rubal. Uh, council member goldbe aye. Council member rubal
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aye. Council member mayor. Aye. Council member
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bowman aye. Council member po aye. Motion carried.
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super jones. Ms. Pitman, thank you for so much and I must tell
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you, we yes, we have improved. I remember when I first got on council in 19, uh,
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the councilman's 2010, it was the most
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laborsome concept of trying to do an, not an audit, but
[1:01:33]
trying to do the budget. And it lasted the entire summer. We had elected in may and
[1:01:37]
we'd june, july, august, september, every every council
[1:01:42]
members and probably an extra one each month was just for the
[1:01:46]
budget. And yes, we've improved a lot, but thank you very much.
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thank you. Next item, ordinance
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6 55 t 2025. This specific
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use permit 4 36 and 38 east
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wright boulevard. Second reading. Yes. As you know, we had a first reading
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on this last time. There was a lot of discussion. Uh, the council asked
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for some modifications, uh, to the sup
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and I think michael's just gonna give you, uh, just some general background information
[1:02:21]
on any changes or discussions that he had with the applicant
[1:02:25]
since our last meeting. Thank you, mr. Casda. Okay,
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so basically, uh, coming out of the last discussion,
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there were some additional, uh, conditions that you wanted inserted
[1:02:41]
into the ordinance. And so the, the one that remained was the unity of title
[1:02:45]
agreement, which needs to be approved and recorded. Uh, the three additional
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conditions included a reduction of the accessory
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dwelling unit size to be no larger than 768 square feet.
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the third one, removal of the interior fence between the existing home
[1:03:03]
and the, uh, proposed a du and then the fourth one was the
[1:03:07]
installation of an additional parking space next to the existing driveway.
[1:03:12]
so I did get a call, uh, from the applicant
[1:03:16]
after the meeting. He understood all the conditions in the discussion. Um, he
[1:03:21]
did have a question and was wondering whether he really needed to install,
[1:03:25]
uh, an additional parking space. Uh, for the following reason is that the
[1:03:30]
existing home has a two car garage. Um, well first, lemme preface this
[1:03:34]
with, uh, our code requires one additional parking space for an accessory
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dwelling unit. So what they have on the property,
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uh, today is a two car garage. They have a very long, wide
[1:03:47]
driveway that can accommodate four cars on the driveway. So that's a total
[1:03:51]
of six cars. Um, you know, if we
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go by the code, uh, they meet the, not only
[1:04:00]
the current requirement, but the proposed, uh, a du requirements
[1:04:04]
as well. So he just wanted, um, some clarification,
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the reconsideration of that condition. A photo,
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uh, we do have a photo. Maribel, I put a photo,
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pdf in there, photos.
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hopefully this will show you what. So yeah, there's a good shot of the
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existing. So you'll notice that there isn't a sidewalk on this
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side of the street. So it does allow for those cars to basically go out to
[1:04:36]
the curb without blocking the sidewalk. That would be on the other side.
[1:04:41]
so that allows for, again, two cars in the garage and four cars on
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the driveway, which is a total of six cars. Now, whether
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or not they use the car, the garage for storage or for cars, ,
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any comments? Yes,
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uh, uh, michael, in, in, in your, uh,
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role as, uh, mediator of conflict often
[1:05:11]
where you, where you bring parties together, uh, type thing
[1:05:15]
to discuss things, uh, were you able to reach
[1:05:19]
out to the numerous residents who presented that opposed
[1:05:23]
this, this, uh, uh, approval
[1:05:28]
after the last meeting? Yes. Um, no, I did not and I did not hear from
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them. Uh, normally I think I would have heard from someone
[1:05:37]
if they strongly disagreed or wanted a status update, but I didn't
[1:05:41]
hear from the neighbors, um, the immediate neighbors or any of the neighbors that came to the planning and
[1:05:45]
zoning commission.
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any other questions or anything call for motion to approve? Uh,
[1:05:54]
no. Okay. Sorry. So let's just make sure we
[1:05:58]
know that we're voting on. Is this ordinance amended to remove
[1:06:03]
the requirement for a second driveway? So
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the ordinance in your packets includes the additional space for a driveway as
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a requirement. If you're going to reconsider that and remove that
[1:06:15]
condition, you need to state the, the motion. State that in
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your motion. Can I comment first? Yes.
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um, I will say I drove by the house a few times and they had moved
[1:06:28]
the trailer from the street into the
[1:06:32]
driveway. So they did follow up on me kind of trying to be a better neighbor, which I was
[1:06:36]
appreciative to see. They had also moved the car that was parked in the backyard out of
[1:06:40]
that. That being said, those two things make me feel like they,
[1:06:45]
the parking could continue to be an issue because they were using the street and the backyard for parking.
[1:06:50]
so it did, does give me pause to make the amendment, but I'm, I also
[1:06:54]
recognize that they made an effort and I wanted to make sure that you guys all knew that they had at
[1:06:58]
least were trying to follow through in being a better neighbor like we'd asked them to be.
[1:07:03]
so are you making a motion with I did not make a motion there. Okay. Just asking. Right? Sure. I
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was just waiting to see what, so you need either a motion to approve as is
[1:07:11]
or a motion to amend.
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do you want me to, so I'm voting no, so either
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way. So I, I dunno why everyone's looking at me. I, sorry.
[1:07:24]
you do what you have to say. Yeah, that's, that's what I'm just, I'm sticking with my note from
[1:07:28]
last time for all the same reasons and yeah, we need to, we gotta get a motion before
[1:07:32]
we go to vote. Yeah, I don't know. I was just looking at make a motion that we move to approve
[1:07:36]
as written. How's that?
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is there a second? I'll second.
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do we have a second? I approach
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him with a second. Yes. Yes.
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so we're, the idea is as it's written,
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because we are trying to make sure
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that there is enough parking. Correct. I mean, okay.
[1:08:07]
and I'm, I personally am open to
[1:08:11]
considering taking that they made some efforts. I feel like they're trying to be
[1:08:15]
good stewards and make that better. They haven't lived there. I feel like that's
[1:08:20]
all there. I also feel like you can park on the street, like street
[1:08:24]
parking is allowed by anybody who visits, who lives there. You could have 10 cars
[1:08:28]
parked out in the street. You just have to move them. I mean, there's certain rules around how long you can be
[1:08:32]
parked in one location, correct? Yes. You have to move it every
[1:08:37]
yes. So I mean, there's rules about that.
[1:08:41]
I was impressed by the fact that they had followed through within like two days. They had taken care of all the
[1:08:45]
rest of the stuff and they didn't need to do that right away. They didn't even need to do it yet. But I appreciate the fact that
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they had. So, um, yeah, I'm,
[1:08:53]
well, I'm open just stands, right? I know. We're, they have availability of eight cars
[1:08:58]
to be parked in their driveway and garage and, but the motion
[1:09:02]
is stated that there will be the eight plus one additional six, I'm sorry,
[1:09:06]
six. That's the a I'm sorry. The, uh, uh, six plus
[1:09:10]
an additional for seven plus whatever they can park on the street
[1:09:15]
also. So we wanna keep the motion as, as is.
[1:09:22]
okay. Call for the vote. I got more questions. Oh, sorry, sorry. Call for the discussion.
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is that, is that, uh, just a widening of the driveway? We're not, we're not installing
[1:09:30]
another curb cut. Correct. So it's just a, so basically, uh, a flare
[1:09:34]
closer to the garage. Okay. Alright. I like that.
[1:09:39]
thank you. Any other discussion? I just
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have to ask, does bearfield better about that option? I'm still frustrated
[1:09:47]
with it. I'm still still on the fence. That's why I wish ashton would really sway one way or
[1:09:51]
the other. But she's saying mom about it, so I'm just like,
[1:09:56]
I mean, my discussion is just the same that we had before. I, I don't, I,
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I don't know. I just, I feel like, I feel like in
[1:10:05]
my heart at the end of the day, and this is just my opinion, that these are going to be two
[1:10:09]
separate rentals. I feel like it's going to be a rental house and the a du is also going to be a rental.
[1:10:13]
I don't know that I necessarily have wholeheartedly
[1:10:18]
believe that that's not gonna be two rental houses. I don't think I just,
[1:10:22]
I don't think that's fair. I wouldn't want it in my neighborhood. We don't have to allow it. It's city
[1:10:26]
council. I understand planning and zoning. They have to allow it 'cause it's based on planning and zoning. But
[1:10:31]
when it comes to city council, I vote with my heart. So I'm just on the fence
[1:10:35]
that I just don't think, like I said, the other a du you know, they had
[1:10:39]
people that came and said, yes, this is gonna be for my mother-in-law. I want this here. And then this
[1:10:43]
house is the complete opposite. And they had six, seven people say, I don't want this here.
[1:10:47]
and I just, if it was me and it was my neighborhood, I wouldn't want
[1:10:51]
someone to have rentals on top of their house being a rental. I mean, that's just,
[1:10:55]
we already have, we all sat at the comprehensive plan. 54% of our town or whatever
[1:11:00]
is rentals. That's an astronomical amount. And now we're just gonna allow even
[1:11:04]
more. I just not gonna do it man. . Appreciate that. Thank you.
[1:11:08]
yeah, later on. I like that what you really feel. Yeah. . Sorry.
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no, I was, I was, I was hoping for that. I wanted to hear that's, thank you. Yeah.
[1:11:18]
yes. Thank you mr. Mayor. Uh, basically I,
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I must fall on the side of ashton and
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that this project, uh,
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we're faced with defining event, essentially what
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a mother-in-law house is. And basically
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I think what we've we're providing is a
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means for a multi-family
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unit type thing, which is, is just
[1:11:52]
significantly different than the neighborhood expects,
[1:11:57]
uh, from this. Now basically if there were
[1:12:02]
a house for sale in the neighborhood that were reasonable sure
[1:12:06]
that they may, uh, the family may jump on the chance to
[1:12:10]
have the family close together. And I, I can appreciate that.
[1:12:14]
um, but the context is beyond the
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scope, I think of the mother-in-law, uh, dwelling that, uh,
[1:12:22]
we're generally all in favor of. And I, I, the family
[1:12:26]
is wonderful, but I, I just can't do that for
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the neighborhood. I understand. I make one more comment if that's
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okay. Yes, I do. This is an unusual situation 'cause they are both rentals
[1:12:39]
at this point. Um, I really felt like the family's very heartfelt in their
[1:12:43]
desire to make the changes and improvements to the house and move in.
[1:12:47]
um, he mentioned that the brother, his brother was his brother or brother-in-law. I'm not sure
[1:12:51]
which one was gonna be the one that was living in the accessory dwelling building. And I also do
[1:12:56]
believe that property owners do have the right to, if they have the space and the ability to make some
[1:13:00]
changes or modifications, I think that that is great. I would ideally
[1:13:04]
like it to be families and I think we're going to be seeing more and more of that. As,
[1:13:08]
you know, we kind of grow and things get tightened with the economy and
[1:13:12]
things. I think we are gonna see families consolidating down and living together more
[1:13:17]
and we need to be open to that. But what if then they sell that house and somebody comes in? We have
[1:13:21]
no control over how that's used going forward and I recognize that. So I
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think we have to be very careful to that reason. I think that keeping
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it to the same as the driveway being put out, build out that
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at least is us making some concessions to making sure that there's enough parking for people.
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I think that's important to do in this case because this one is a little challenging to
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consider. That's all. Mayor. Okay, I off of the vote, I just want to throw this out
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there for just your consideration and, and uh, just so that you're aware,
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we are slowly coming into a multi-national or multi-family,
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uh, age. Mm-hmm . Uh, I have, uh,
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I added, my wife and I added a mother-in-law suite to our house a number of years ago.
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uh, it is adjacent to the room, to the house, to the dwelling,
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but it was not part of, we actually built it on two,
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it has a separate, um, entrance if desire
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and if anything were to happen to my mother-in-law, heaven forbid
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we could rent that room out. That would
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be our free will to do as it was. So I just wanted to know that
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there's certain things that you cannot control and just be aware
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that are, are, we're changing as
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we evolve around. Especially as we have, uh, a lot of our family members
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aging and moving back in with, uh, the younger children and vice versa. So
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there's certain things that we can't change, but there's some things also
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that is illegal. And with that, let's call for the vote.
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council member put aye. Mayor fitzpatrick. Aye. Council
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member fullman. No. Council member wolffe aye.
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council member rubal with regrets? No, the motion carried.
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carried forward. Okay. Um, next item is,
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uh, item b. Your view pay
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number five. Yes. Uh, mayor, as you know with the community
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development block grant, in order to get reimbursement, we have to have approval
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on each pay application by city council. So this one is for the hill do
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project. It's in the amount of $207,950 and
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43 cents. And we are requesting council, approve it so we can get
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our reimbursement from the county. Move to approve discussion.
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call of the vote. Council member goldman
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aye. Council member goldsby aye. Mayor pro temp
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fitzpatrick. Aye. Council member put aye. Council member rubal
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aye. Motion carrie, move forward. Uh, ladies and gentlemen, item
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10 is an executive session. Uh, city council universal city
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will meet to, uh, under texas government
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code 5 5 1 0 7 1 consultation with attorneys,
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uh, in relationship to case number 2 0 2 4
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cv 0 6 5 11 camino lavoy,
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llc, uh, texas liability company. And there's a bunch of stuff in there too.
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we're gonna receive information here that we may or may
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not take action on. And at 8 46
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we're gonna send to 7 7 6. My apology,
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seven six. You were panicking me. Goodness gracious.
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7 46, 8 11,
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reconvene the meeting. It was stressful. I need a break. Yes, you too.
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and we're out of executive council
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session. And with that being said, there's no
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action being taken by the council. And with that being said,
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meeting is adjourned. Awesome. Thank.