[0:00] All right, everyone. We're going to get started. We're going to give our chair time to to get here. Um, but we that let's let's get things going. So to start off, uh, we just do a roll call. Um,

[0:31] All right, in person, maybe we'll just go around the table real quick.

[0:35] So I'm Kyle Brostrom, Brandon Howard, Ginger Chin, Rob Wilson, Ronald Smith, Justin

[0:44] Knight, and Dave Brost, Jeff Love, Helen Simmerick, Darren Brush, all right, and then online,

[0:50] I know we've got Parker Merton Tucker, let's see.

[0:59] Okay, and then we want to acknowledge our guests who are here, Jeremy Shaw, Assistant

[1:08] Attorney General, and Paige Lee, Lockhart, all right, and then Bridget, we're just doing

[1:19] roll call.

[1:19] Okay, I'm here.

[1:21] Bridget, you're hard.

[1:26] Okay.

[1:26] Okay, that's roll call.

[1:29] I, we need to.

[1:30] Kelly.

[1:32] Oh, thank you.

[1:33] Thank you.

[1:34] Go ahead.

[1:35] I'm up to come up in.

[1:38] Need us in our pledge.

[1:39] Emma, do you want to share with the board the program that you're in and how much longer

[1:43] you have to.

[1:44] Congratulations.

[1:45] My name is Emma.

[1:45] I'm in the circuit I've seen the system program and I graduated and I am doing the veterinary science

[1:52] post-accompetition.

[1:54] How much space?

[1:55] All right.

[1:55] Here.

[1:56] Would you please join me to the pledge of allegiance to

[2:05] the Black and the United States of America and the

[2:08] United States of America for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[2:18] All right.

[2:18] Thank you very much.

[2:30] Yeah, okay, you want to tell us what we're going to do next here instead of having everyone

[2:36] come in here?

[2:37] So, thank you, Mr. Vice Chair, we're calling an audible, which is why we're shifting a little

[2:42] bit.

[2:43] We thought, as is tradition, we'd bring our HOSA and skills USA champions in because they're

[2:50] going to compete this summer. Actually, our coordinators will explain more about it, so

[2:55] I shouldn't steal it, but there are far too many of them to bring into this room. So,

[2:59] if you're willing, we thought we'd take the board to them. So, there, as you can hear,

[3:02] are all out the hall. So, I think, because this is an audible, we would typically introduce

[3:11] all of them, but we probably, I think they would appreciate us introducing you to,

[3:20] or you

[3:20] Yeah, so if that's okay, we'll just pause the meeting for a moment and we'll stand up

[3:25] then. Yeah, they are a wonderful group of students and they are the best of the best

[3:30] in the state and they are traveling to for skills, the national competition in Atlanta

[3:35] next month, but for hosts, it's the international competition of many different countries

[3:39] from around the world. And so it's kind of a big deal. This is our Rose Bowl or whatever

[3:45] wherever the equivalent is, so this is fun.

[3:47] Yeah, wow.

[3:48] Sending a lot of it.

[3:50] Student, that's really cool.

[3:52] All right.

[4:19] I'm screwed, I'll be all right.

[4:40] That's great.

[4:41] Oh my

[4:48] god.

[4:48] Thanks for bearing with us that we were told

[4:51] and seeing how it is true for us

[4:54] to see people that ran to that tiny road.

[4:56] So we'd like to, I'm Kyle Roach from on the Vice-Chairn Board, I'm the President of the Holy Cross Hospital of Data, STEM Road, and it's real pleasure being here with you and helping with your send-off.

[5:13] Maybe we begin with, we'd love to hear a little bit more about you, but maybe for us to kind of go down the

[5:20] road line and introduce all of us to you, so you know who represents you on the board here.

[5:26] So my name is Ron Smith, I'm a technical director, so chief engineer on base at Giller Space.

[5:34] So if any of you are looking for jobs, I'll see you as soon as you're always looking for some of that.

[5:40] Appreciate being here with you. My name is Bridget your art so I'm the president of the Davis Board of Education and

[5:47] You guys are amazing and I just love to have the opportunity to talk with each one of you individually, but I know no no no

[5:53] We don't have time for that but good luck and you're gonna do a great job. You already are

[6:01] Hi everyone. My name is Brad Wilson and I am currently the CEO of the Utah

[6:07] 2034 Olympic and Paralympic Games that are about 2,800 days away.

[6:19] Congratulations, best of luck to you as you go out and represent this amazing

[6:24] school across the world.

[6:26] Thank you for all you're doing.

[6:28] My name's Ginger, and I do government relations work and we're in aerospace and defense company

[6:34] All across Utah, but we're national, we have 100,000 employees nationally, and we're looking for more.

[6:40] So I'll echo the airport, so if we listen to the word, let us know.

[6:44] And congratulations, you guys will do so well.

[6:46] We're super excited for you.

[6:48] My name's Andrea Brooks, and I represent Oregon's chemistry district on the board of chemistry.

[6:53] Oh my gosh, they can't talk.

[6:54] They're good.

[6:55] I'll just echo the congratulations.

[6:56] Thank you.

[6:57] Good luck.

[6:57] Congratulations.

[6:58] I'm reading how industry representative and also craft father to recent graduates.

[7:03] So, thank you for all your hard work and dedication.

[7:08] Hey there, I'm Justin Atkinson.

[7:09] I work at the University of Utah Health System.

[7:12] I work at the clinic in Farmington.

[7:15] And we're always looking for great health care workers.

[7:18] And facilities, maintenance engineers,

[7:19] there's lots of opportunities there.

[7:21] But congratulations on your best of luck on this audition.

[7:27] What's that?

[7:27] Sean and Mari.

[7:28] How do you introduce yourselves?

[7:30] Yeah, so I'm Sean and you are.

[7:32] I'm Sean Swapwhite, kind of over-seagulled at Skills USA, so these ones down here are the Skills USA students closest down there.

[7:40] This is probably the biggest group that you can see that we probably ever have, and they're incredible.

[7:46] We've got 22 students for Skills USA going next week to Atlanta, so pretty quick.

[7:52] It's exciting.

[7:52] Hi, I'm Marie Russard, I'm the advisor for Hosa, and we're taking 30 to our international

[8:00] competition in Indianapolis, almost through, just under two weeks, and it's all this

[8:06] way.

[8:06] So there's a whole bunch of them.

[8:09] Thank you so much for couriering.

[8:12] Is this first time for a courier or any returning?

[8:15] There's a couple of returning.

[8:16] Where's your family?

[8:17] Okay your work.

[8:23] Absolutely, how fast do you think we can go through and you can give your name and your

[8:28] competition.

[8:28] Can we do that really quickly?

[8:30] Do you mind?

[8:31] Okay.

[8:31] Let's do it.

[8:32] I will decide, and we have a meeting on for a 12th.

[8:38] This is the last date.

[8:39] Dan Covadazone.

[8:40] Thank you for having us.

[8:41] Thank you for having us.

[8:42] Like I'm Dixon for the funny David Thompson is plumbing.

[8:44] My name is Aiden Fugue, I'm for the virtual S.U.A.S.

[8:49] I've allowed to some also for the virtual S.U.A.S.

[8:52] Drone's competition.

[8:53] I'm Isaac Erickson.

[8:54] I'm for industrial motor controls.

[8:56] I'm all on my sacred, well-known sculpture.

[8:59] I'm Stephanie and I'm for Internet work.

[9:01] I'm sorry, I'm welcome.

[9:03] I'm for promotional bulletin board.

[9:05] I'm Kayla Harvey.

[9:06] I'm for promotional bulletin board.

[9:08] I'm Abby Collar.

[9:08] I'm also for promotional bulletin board.

[9:10] I'm Megan Serain.

[9:12] I am a pin design.

[9:13] Brinkley Harris, T-shirt design.

[9:16] I'm James Sensen, web-debt competition.

[9:20] Maximus Jacobs, web-debt development.

[9:22] Mason Hancock, diesel technology.

[9:25] Oh, I'm Alexandra Pacheco, dental terminology.

[9:30] Lily Evans, dental terminology.

[9:32] Prado, who is yet dental terminology?

[9:34] They don't start out interesting.

[9:36] Susan Haugann, national assistant.

[9:38] Emma Carr, Betcher, science.

[9:43] Friends of Carlisle, I'm substituting for the EMT.

[9:47] Matthew, I thought I was doing the EMT competition.

[9:51] Right.

[9:52] Howdy quilters, if you're in first aid.

[9:54] If you're in first aid, if you're in first aid.

[9:56] Mainly older EMT.

[9:59] You can put some EMT.

[10:01] Only turn a EMT.

[10:03] You can build this EMT.

[10:05] Logan Thomas, EMT.

[10:10] Melanie Morrison's, there's a little technology.

[10:14] Sam and Ray, I just don't know.

[10:16] I'm Kim, I'm new.

[10:17] Click on Earth, anyway.

[10:20] You get to come over to the place.

[10:22] Thank you.

[10:24] I'm Jay.

[10:24] Oh, I'm Jay.

[10:25] Oh, I'm Jay.

[10:26] I'm Jay.

[10:28] Oh, I'm Jay.

[10:29] Oh, I'm Jay.

[10:31] Oh, I'm Jay.

[10:37] Oh, I'm Jay.

[10:40] We're going to hold it more than we're going to get it for our kids at that.

[10:45] I

[10:54] want to find your competition.

[10:56] We look forward to hearing about the results and talking to many of you.

[11:02] Thank you.

[11:03] Thank you.

[11:03] Thank you for being here.

[11:04] Thank you.

[11:17] Great.

[11:32] I'm glad you had the mentor.

[11:34] Yeah.

[11:34] Yeah, that was really nice.

[11:36] I don't remember. I only remembered that tape year.

[11:40] We've already been here.

[11:44] Wow. Impressive.

[11:47] It's full community celebrates.

[11:50] It is.

[11:51] Okay.

[11:53] So I think president, I think you have the next...

[11:56] Oh, I do. Thank you.

[11:57] ...denda topic.

[11:58] And by the way, thank you for...

[11:59] ...in the oldenments on that.

[12:01] I love that.

[12:02] That was really neat.

[12:03] Okay, that was the highlight of the meeting.

[12:04] well besides this presentation I'm going to make so thank you and I got a text

[12:11] from Chair Tran she's on her way so we're pleased to have Stacey Hutchings with

[12:17] us and we just wanted on behalf of a grateful college to recognize Stacey

[12:25] Stacey left us a couple months ago two months ago did you start officially two

[12:31] two months ago? Almost two months ago. After nearly ten years as a director of

[12:38] career path high, the first charter early technical college high school in

[12:42] the state. She was called into that duty, I think, one about a year and a half

[12:47] after you were on the board of career path high, and it was a heavy lift to get

[12:52] the school going, and the board realized they needed your steady hand as the

[12:56] director of the school and did that for nearly a decade. Again, against her

[13:01] better judgment for a few years, she simultaneously accepted an assignment from

[13:06] me to be my senior advisor for secondary students building out, really building

[13:12] out pathways with our two school districts, Morgan and Davis School District,

[13:16] from which we'll always benefit. So I am certainly grateful to Stacey. She was

[13:23] also the director of my son's high school where he graduated from so on a

[13:29] personal level you you mean a lot to me. Last year Governor Cox appointed

[13:34] Stacey to the Utah State Charter School Board and then just about two

[13:38] months ago she was named the executive director of the State Charter School Board

[13:42] so they knew they had a good thing. This is fun for me also to share Stacey began

[13:48] her teaching career in history a passion of mine and Spanish at current junior

[13:53] High School and Riverton High School be cut before becoming a founding teacher at Utah Virtual Academy.

[13:59] Is that where the two of you met?

[14:01] Yeah.

[14:01] That's right.

[14:02] Analyse Will, here from Analyse later.

[14:04] That's right.

[14:05] She earned degrees from the University of Utah, a school south of there, and Western Governor's University.

[14:15] So, queer path high owes so much to Stacey Hutchings, and we're glad you came back for a return visit

[14:23] And so, for your leadership as director of Career Path Eye and your unwavering dedication

[14:28] to empowering students to achieve their goals and build meaningful futures with thanks,

[14:34] Davis Technical College.

[14:36] Yeah.

[14:36] Look,

[14:43] so we get a picture of this.

[14:45] Yeah.

[14:46] We get a picture.

[14:46] Maybe we get a picture.

[14:47] I will.

[14:48] We got here on.

[14:50] We got a picture.

[14:51] We got here on.

[14:52] We got here on.

[14:53] We got here on.

[14:55] We got here on.

[14:58] That's okay.

[15:00] Yeah. Okay.

[15:04] Congratulations.

[15:07] Good job. Wow. And an honor of a late time. Okay. All right.

[15:23] This is, I think I just open up. Please

[15:26] Please try to make sure, recognize if there are any members of the public or any public comment.

[15:32] And or any public comment, either in the room or online.

[15:39] So now, okay, moving on to the consent calendar,

[15:47] Mr. Vice Chair.

[15:49] Yeah, I'd like to make an unusual request.

[15:52] I would like to pull item L, lashing brow technician program out.

[15:57] Do we think it deserves just a little bit more explanation to make sure the board is aware of so Dr.

[16:01] Simrac will cover that if you don't mind otherwise. Okay. The board will be free to prove the rest of the consent calendar if it wishes.

[16:09] All right, so with that.

[16:13] So we'll pull letter L from the consent calendar and ask for a motion to prove the consent agenda.

[16:30] Okay.

[16:30] Minus.

[16:31] Minus.

[16:31] Minus L.

[16:32] Minus L.

[16:33] Lash and Dr.

[16:33] Okay.

[16:34] I'll second that.

[16:36] Okay.

[16:37] All in favor?

[16:38] All right.

[16:42] All right, President.

[16:44] Any opposed?

[16:45] Oh, any opposed?

[16:46] We do need the...

[16:48] All right, motion passed.

[16:52] Thank you for coaching.

[16:54] Okay.

[16:55] All right.

[16:56] Thank you.

[16:57] All right.

[16:58] All right.

[16:59] All right, so we'll go back to that.

[17:03] Yeah, so I was going to say, do you want to go back?

[17:07] Yeah.

[17:08] Kelly wanted to talk about it.

[17:10] Yeah, so June is some ambiguity in policy.

[17:13] You should policy regarding starting new technical education programs.

[17:17] We're seeking conditional approval of our new lash and brow technician,

[17:22] which when you say it too fast, you say,

[17:24] Um, um, Brash and Lowe, last in Brown technician. Um, so while we, while it works, it's

[17:33] way through the issue process. So we're seeking conditional approval so that, because

[17:37] we don't meet again until the end of September, so that as soon as you she, it goes through

[17:41] the issue process, we can go ahead and get students started in it. We have already met

[17:45] with a USU Eastern who's the only other institution planning on starting, Brash and Brow, um, during

[17:53] this next academic year and our faculty have met. They've agreed on outcomes program description,

[17:59] course descriptions and course objectives. So we are really just waiting on UCI to go through

[18:06] their their approval process. We appreciate UCI support as we've kind of navigated. We are I think

[18:13] this is the first new new program under these new this new changing evolving process. And they've

[18:21] been supportive in us kind of bringing this forward for conditional

[18:23] approval today.

[18:24] Your approval today will kind of will prevent future delays.

[18:27] So as soon as you see it gets their their parts there would be able to go ahead

[18:32] and start students and I hope is to start our first cohort in September.

[18:36] And we're responding to, uh, we've talked about this before as a board,

[18:39] but we're responding to an industry need.

[18:41] This is a licensed occupation by the Division of Occupational Professional

[18:45] Licensing.

[18:46] So it's incumbent upon us to teach a licensed program.

[18:54] It's a standalone, it's now a standalone license with the legislation from two sessions ago.

[19:06] So we were tabling this for future or do you ask for additional approval based on the

[19:13] UCI?

[19:14] Yeah.

[19:14] And then the expectation would be that we would follow up for formal approval over email.

[19:21] Okay.

[19:24] She's really revamping the entire program approval process to ensure that programs are

[19:30] meeting more rigorous criteria in terms of demand and warranting funding and so forth.

[19:36] So we're kind of caught in the development of that process.

[19:40] So we want to just, as Kelly suggested, we want to seek the condition approval in order

[19:45] that the timing will line up.

[19:47] And then we'll report back to the board in September where we are.

[19:49] Any concerns from any members of the board?

[19:54] Granting conditional approval?

[19:57] No.

[19:58] Should we need to formally vote on that?

[20:01] Okay, so do we have a motion to provide conditional approval and a last-and-grow

[20:06] program for any additional approval?

[20:10] Second.

[20:13] All right.

[20:14] All in favor?

[20:15] Aye.

[20:18] Any opposed?

[20:20] All right.

[20:21] Motion passed.

[20:23] Okay.

[20:24] all right next agenda item we'll turn it back well it looks like well did you

[20:33] want to introduce this president we'll go back to career path I part of the

[20:38] Kellyanne and Jeff given the introduction I thank you for the

[20:41] opportunity I'll just say pretty easy up till now we've got three big things on

[20:46] this agenda today so and here they come so the first is our continued

[20:51] conversation about career path high and your appointees to the career path high are our

[20:57] vice-presidents, Kelly and Jeff and so I would you like to introduce the topic. It's time

[21:06] for our annual report. I don't know what is wrong today.

[21:11] Maybe there's a lot of stuff

[21:13] going on today. So we always get a report in this meeting from career path high.

[21:20] Yeah, but there's more in addition to that to talk about so that's my introduction to topic and who takes it from here

[21:26] I have no idea

[21:31] When was they see leaving the beginning of April we really the

[21:36] Pre-Pet High Board very much appreciates

[21:39] Annalisa is being willing to step into finish out the school year and then also has a great day

[21:45] continue on as our director for next school year. So she's going to do kind of the normal

[21:52] end of the year-ish report because there's some stuff we still don't know. And then,

[21:57] Jeff and I will kind of tag team a continuation of the conversation that we've had kind of about

[22:04] future career pathite with some additional projects going forward. So, Emily, can you turn

[22:14] So I'm not stacey and for that I apologize, but I will do my best.

[22:19] So the first slide we have is our enrollment numbers.

[22:23] It's on, but it's not going to get back.

[22:27] Here we go.

[22:27] That looks familiar.

[22:34] Okay.

[22:34] I'll do it.

[22:40] So the top is our current enrollment.

[22:42] This is what we finished the year with.

[22:44] You roll those forward because everybody goes up a grade and that's who's planning on returning

[22:49] 9th grade is pending some CPH 4 decisions, otherwise they'll be our incoming lottery.

[22:57] Pending in accepted right now is still pretty low, it's still pretty early in the summer

[23:01] for our big summer application.

[23:04] So I have our historic summer estimates here, this is the low end.

[23:08] So from all of those, we have our estimated 27 enrollment and I included 9th grade on that

[23:15] just so you can get an idea of what that would probably look like if we include that.

[23:19] and you can all do math, so my X-14 would be without.

[23:24] So we self-explanatory there.

[23:27] Grad rate came in today.

[23:29] This is up for us.

[23:30] This is really a big deal for us.

[23:33] Yeah.

[23:34] That is so much work.

[23:37] And Stacy, this is Stacy's work.

[23:40] A lot of work this year around making sure

[23:43] we track their graduates and just our staff

[23:45] worked so hard to get our seniors over the finish line.

[23:48] I am so proud of them.

[23:50] and for that grad rate and our special education grad rate is 77% which might

[23:54] sound low but it's above the state average and it's pretty awesome too so what

[23:59] is what are the color codes of green green and dark green bright green is

[24:05] regular graduates dark green are students who graduate with like honors or

[24:11] other marks and we had those in there for our staff and then great are the students

[24:17] that either loved and we didn't track after they left us or not graduates.

[24:23] This is current program enrollment.

[24:25] This has changed.

[24:26] If I pulled it for the date on there, Sam and I went over this together.

[24:29] This is for our 11th and 12th grade.

[24:32] And I don't know if Sam's not here, but we'll just...

[24:35] Oh, very, yeah.

[24:36] So Sam and I talked about this.

[24:37] And I think we'll get more and more accurate on this as we go forward to the report.

[24:41] And this is program enrollment in Davis Tech.

[24:44] Oh, yes.

[24:45] Thank you.

[24:45] Yes.

[24:46] Thank you for clarifying.

[24:48] and just some really brief updates. Next year we're going to be adding a CCR which is our credit

[24:54] counseling thing and a DTC liaison position so that'll be her dedicated position. We're adding

[25:01] really targeted support for our kiddos who come down here like how do you act on a college campus?

[25:06] What do you do when you don't feel like going to school at college sort of support? And then we're

[25:12] We're going to start adding a new highlight, not a new highlight, but a especially bright

[25:16] highlight to parent conversations about the DTC program and leveraging some of the resources

[25:21] that Sam's offered us in those.

[25:23] So, any questions?

[25:27] Ray and Elise?

[25:30] Well, and obviously, as we go through these next slides, we welcome you to Amstacy to provide

[25:37] any additional contact.

[25:39] So, just a little bit of review of the history and challenges CPH.

[25:43] They were established as charter school here in 2013, and they were one of the first charter schools to be sponsored by an institution of higher education.

[25:50] And actually one of the few that are, most are chartered by the state charter board.

[25:55] The original charter included directives to addressing career pathways.

[26:00] So, you know, the idea is that while they're working towards their high school, the quality is also our industry certifications.

[26:05] And the charter outlines the two Davis Tech Board that authorizes two appointees and

[26:12] currently that's Dr. Semmerkin myself.

[26:15] The challenge is since 2013 is about the last few years, the enrollment has been fairly

[26:21] stagnant, it's not declining.

[26:24] COVID didn't do any favors and there is a lot more competition in the charter school right

[26:29] now than there was in 2010.

[26:31] So there are some of the challenges that they face, and CPH is currently sort of a high

[26:37] proportion of students who need credit recovery or an alternative high school experience

[26:41] or approach, and that means that not a lot of their students are able to enroll or complete

[26:48] the data stack programs, which is part of the main focus of the chart, and that leads us

[26:56] to a discussion that began about four years ago with new names, and A.W. Services is

[27:05] the business provider for Career Path π. With an exploration about operation of both schools,

[27:12] new names began on Davis text campus, which was their first permanent location, and they've

[27:18] had students here that whole time, but we're just looking to enhance that presence, and they've

[27:24] I've always had a strong student enrollment and that's increased over the prior years.

[27:29] And new aims is also going to be changing their charter to include and recognize technical

[27:34] college STEM education in addition to what they've always been doing with Weaver State.

[27:39] So they're expanding their charter to be more inclusive of the needs that the employers

[27:46] in our area.

[27:48] And so this is in response to not only the communities needs but also the interests of their students.

[27:53] So, we think that this is a really strong collaboration opportunity to enhance the experience

[28:01] for our current group of faculty and students, as well as for the new and student body.

[28:07] And just some additional context too.

[28:10] So, when we originally met, it was almost four years ago, Stacey, Darren, myself, Kelly

[28:15] Booth, who's the executive director at New Leans, and academic folks.

[28:19] And could we sustain two high schools on our campus?

[28:26] And that didn't feel great for anybody.

[28:29] And we had varying levels of patients

[28:32] for moving things forward.

[28:35] And so I just mentioned we do have quite a few new

[28:39] students who currently are enrolled here.

[28:43] But as we've kind of talked about some of the struggles

[28:46] that Krupep High has had and we've said this in our last four

[28:51] meeting to this is this is 100% a change in the landscape of education,

[28:59] not any lack of effort.

[29:03] I mean, my gosh, as we said at graduation last week is the passion and

[29:07] dedication that the Krupep High faculty have for helping these students

[29:13] is unmatched.

[29:14] But yet we've continued to struggle with getting students and then meeting the intent of the original charter.

[29:30] And while yes, we did have 80% of our students participate in Davis Tech programs.

[29:36] It wasn't always meaningful participation.

[29:39] So, we had, I think, five or six of the graduating seniors that had graduated from one of our programs.

[29:48] But sometimes, you know, we know high school students are always very motivated to do high school, much less an additional program.

[29:56] And so we really, we've talked about it.

[30:00] Last week, President Brush, Stacy, Jeff, myself, what can we do? Because, like we shared with this board, I think our last board meeting, you know, concerned over fiscal viability of the school. And so without some drastic change, is career path is still going to be able to be a charter school. And so that re-opened the door to the New Ames College.

[30:29] conversation and

[30:32] Prior to CC leaving we started we started down this road again, and so for those of you

[30:39] I'm assuming everyone in this room is pretty familiar with newings, but they are their administration is

[30:45] All over the world at graduations and weddings today, so none of them could be here

[30:50] But they are a public charter school 10 through 12th grade with with the STEM focus. They're northern Utah Academy from math engineering and science

[30:59] Currently, graduation requirements require students to do an extra year of science, an extra year of math, and then graduate with two years of either computer science or engineering.

[31:10] As Jeff mentioned, they are changing their charter, so it will be two years of computer science engineering or the technical college coursework, because when they open their new names,

[31:22] Ogden location, they saw a very different student body than what they have at the

[31:28] Nurems Davis, Davis location. And so one of the conversations that Andrea

[31:34] Otterpou is online and I had with with Annalisa's staff a couple weeks ago was

[31:40] we anticipate that this Nurems will look different from the other two Nurems,

[31:45] every Nurems location has a very different culture and population and the

[31:51] students that they attract.

[31:54] Nuins has earned a platinum STEM school designation,

[31:59] the highest scoring, the high school,

[32:01] and the Utah comprehensive accountability system.

[32:03] They, we're doing a share of just a couple of other slides.

[32:06] Again, just going to go over really quickly with you.

[32:09] They are, they were established in 2008 or 2004.

[32:13] We were the first permanent location.

[32:16] And every year we have about 70 to 75 students

[32:20] It's from new and so are currently participating in our programs.

[32:23] And they actually have a classroom up in our Barlow building,

[32:27] as well as an office or a counselor.

[32:32] So their students are getting academic support

[32:34] for their online newings classes

[32:36] when they're here doing Davis Tech programs during the day.

[32:39] And then this last year,

[32:41] we actually piloted our first ever IT networking

[32:45] and cyber security program in a high school.

[32:48] So, we teach our faculty, teach at Millions High School on their Davis campus, our IT Networking and Cybersecurity,

[32:57] and to say that that program has been successful would be an understatement.

[33:02] Their students really are thriving in that model.

[33:07] And then we'll also be starting CNA for Millions Davis folks, students in the fall as well.

[33:15] There are target population is any student who is looking for an early college experience

[33:20] who is willing to work and learn and also I would say there is a lot of peril and the

[33:26] bend diagram of it all there is a lot of space at career path high and new aims meet the

[33:32] needs of students who don't quite are getting their needs met in their local high school.

[33:39] There are no emissions requirements it is a lottery system.

[33:42] So students will leave with a variety of college credit options.

[33:52] The idea is, I'll just go right to the next slide.

[33:58] We have sign an MOU, we being the Career Path High Board and the Newings Board have signed an MOU

[34:03] and it is in your boardbook page 137.

[34:07] It is an agreement to look at merging our schools into one.

[34:12] It is, we've been really thoughtful, we think, we hope, we've been really thoughtful

[34:20] as the group has high board and ensuring that our students are taking care of, that staff are taking care of.

[34:26] Williams plans on inviting an administrator for this next year to learn and learn staff, meet staff, meet with families, meet with students.

[34:37] And because of the size and scale that new names has, they have about 1,250 students

[34:42] across their two current campuses.

[34:44] They'll be able to bring a higher level of resource and support, more robust student

[34:50] services.

[34:52] Analyse and Kelly Booth have already been needing, talking about curriculum sharing, talking

[34:58] about planning, what this could look like.

[35:01] I mentioned we had a faculty meeting a couple of weeks ago with established a generic questions

[35:06] email so that faculty now and then families once this is fully rolled out to them

[35:14] would have a way to ask questions that maybe they don't feel for asking in

[35:19] person. We are planning on hosting parent the board is planning on hosting

[35:24] parent meetings and inviting new aims to be there so that they can answer questions.

[35:31] Every student will have a personalized education plan.

[35:36] Every student who started as a career path high student will be held to career path high

[35:40] graduation requirements so they won't have to do the additionally come back in English.

[35:47] They won't have to leave, but two years of computer science or engineering and with your

[35:54] approval today we would be looking at establishing working groups to outline transition specifics.

[36:00] as we kind of move forward in this partnership and essentially merger of our two schools.

[36:10] I know I've lost something else.

[36:11] Well, you've done a brilliant job.

[36:14] I think you kind of wrapped up four years of conversations that are culminating in this moment.

[36:20] I think that I would add is just a misperception that I've come across.

[36:26] I think it's pretty common.

[36:28] and that is the new aims is sort of an elite school.

[36:33] I would argue that their model, their academic model

[36:37] is very, very strong,

[36:39] but having just attended their graduation

[36:42] alongside Kelli and Sam Kacenzar,

[36:45] Associate Vice President, it is a very diverse school

[36:47] and they welcome students from all walks of life,

[36:50] including very academically challenged students,

[36:53] because they believe that their model

[36:54] could bring all students along.

[36:56] Now they may have different achievement along the way

[36:57] I mean, they even talk in the graduation

[36:59] about how some barely made it across the finish line,

[37:03] why others have a long list of achievements

[37:06] and scholarships and opportunities.

[37:09] But I wanted to simply share that that's

[37:13] been a misperception night.

[37:14] I regularly come across about new aims.

[37:17] And their willingness to expand their footprint

[37:21] to bring us into the tent with Curipath High,

[37:25] I think is the very best solution in my opinion.

[37:30] And I was just wanting to emphasize one last time,

[37:32] it's not because of any,

[37:33] it's a change in the marketplace.

[37:35] And one thing we didn't say,

[37:36] besides everything that Jeff and Kelly said,

[37:39] is that we've been really effective at building out

[37:40] our pathways with our school districts.

[37:44] And those are much less friction in those pathways

[37:49] than there may have been when those who were here long before us

[37:51] just ramped up this idea of having early technical college high school.

[37:55] And so new aims over time, and COVID didn't, or new aims,

[37:58] career path high, it didn't help that COVID made it even that much more difficult.

[38:04] And really sort of moved into a credit recovery high school model and no longer a technical

[38:09] education, early technical education high school, which is a credible benefit.

[38:14] I mean, I've got a kid at Utah State University now that I never saw going to college because

[38:18] of career path high.

[38:19] But that has changed, and we're doing, it's just a different world, and so this, in my

[38:26] opinion, is a brilliant solution, and I'm grateful for the willingness of new aims to

[38:33] enter into this conversation with us.

[38:37] So no, I didn't have anything to say, Kelly.

[38:43] So we got the whole group here, your board appointees, former director, current director,

[38:50] the head of the State Charter School Board, to entertain any of your questions or thoughts.

[38:58] As an authorizer, what does that mean now?

[39:00] I said a lot of work to do this, or you're honoring the NYU,

[39:03] but what does that mean as an authorizer?

[39:05] Is there a way down in books?

[39:07] I mean, I'm sure there's a whole process.

[39:10] Almost.

[39:12] The process hasn't been well defined,

[39:14] but part of what we'd like to accomplish tonight

[39:16] is pursuing an opportunity to change the authorizer as well.

[39:21] It's, in a sense, it's uncharted territory,

[39:26] which is what, but Stacey, do you mind saying a word?

[39:28] Yeah, I think you're a partner in this now.

[39:30] What you just say, yeah, it's really,

[39:32] but I think we're looking at is a two-step process.

[39:34] One, we have in USB board role,

[39:37] there is a clear process of changing authorizers

[39:41] and that's actually pretty simple.

[39:43] There's, you know, on the back end,

[39:45] there's gonna be some paperwork and information

[39:47] that needs to be shared in the state charter school board

[39:49] with me to approve it.

[39:52] But the change of authorizer is relatively simple and it's not very destructive to the school at all.

[40:00] In fact, if you don't know what's going on, they may not even know this at the school level, which is nice.

[40:06] The second step, then, with what we're talking about with New Ames, would be what's called a transfer of operation in control.

[40:12] And so that's a bigger process.

[40:15] And it is something that the State Charter School Board is working with USBE to create a much smoother process.

[40:24] And so that's something that we're working on right now.

[40:26] And it's something that may, once the authorizers change,

[40:29] may test the timeline of how, you know, when this could happen,

[40:34] whether it could be for next the 28th school year or 29th school year,

[40:38] we'll have to see.

[40:39] but that's something that once they're under the same

[40:43] authorizer we can work together with millions on.

[40:50] I'm just like to make a comment.

[40:52] I just think that this is a well-thought-out brilliant

[40:58] solution and not just a solution but a great merger

[41:04] that will only benefit these students.

[41:07] I think it's great and I just wanted to add my accolades

[41:11] to STAC for all of the work they've done and to present for us and these guys for

[41:15] coming together on this, it's wonderful for these students and I'm excited about it.

[41:23] I'm just going to ask, does this increase the ability for increasing enrollment?

[41:29] It does, doesn't it?

[41:30] An opportunity for students, so it allows the program to be bigger, more opportunity, so it's

[41:36] great.

[41:37] And we'll see Chris how high is actually authorized for up to 500 students with the name of new names.

[41:43] I think it will definitely provide more opportunities for sure.

[41:49] And also you're expanding the options for students who have been here.

[41:54] And a little, a little extra, a little farther reach to the south part of the county too.

[41:59] Good news market research suggests on that need there too.

[42:03] And I do also, while we're acknowledging our grant,

[42:07] it's not, we remiss if I didn't acknowledge our board chair and vice chair.

[42:12] We meet every month, and this has been a topic of conversation for a long time too.

[42:16] So, they've been representing the court well and these conversations.

[42:20] Thank you to you also.

[42:22] I just make a comment having been, you know, someone in the Lou, but

[42:27] And also been involved in many pretty large organizational transitions.

[42:35] It's anxiety inducing, it's hard, you're dealing with emotions and people's lives.

[42:40] And I just commend the group that has worked to get to this point.

[42:46] It seems like to the degree possible, you've thought through all of the things as far as

[42:52] like how we transition to students, you know, give a year, let's go through a year, let's

[42:56] get people in.

[42:57] and let's merge the cultures.

[42:59] So a lot of very good forethought,

[43:02] giving there and then just wishing, you know,

[43:07] assuming we did this approval,

[43:11] just well wish it was managing through the change,

[43:14] change management is hard.

[43:16] And I know there's a lot of work to do.

[43:21] Great.

[43:22] Thank you.

[43:23] Do we need a motion?

[43:25] I would like to make a motion to recommend

[43:28] that our board excuse me oh we don't need to read that exactly like that okay

[43:33] I was it's stunning how professional we've become my mind I moved at the

[43:45] Davis Technical College Board of Trustees direct staff to pursue the transfer

[43:48] of the board's authorization of career path high to the Utah Utah State

[43:53] Charter School Board with the intent of transitioning operational control

[43:58] of career path high to the Northern Utah Academy for math, engineering, and science.

[44:04] New aims with such transition to be completed no later than June 30th, 2027.

[44:12] That timeline, sorry, I'm speaking out of order.

[44:16] So I'd like to make a motion for a second.

[44:20] Okay, thank you, Ginger, okay, Alan Favre.

[44:22] Oh, okay.

[44:23] Let's go ahead.

[44:23] Thank you Madam Chair.

[44:24] For just some discussion.

[44:25] Oh, discussion.

[44:26] If you don't mind, just a comment.

[44:27] Sure.

[44:27] about the motion to come to mind. I think it's great for the most part, a couple of things

[44:34] to keep in mind. Once the author, the transfer of authorizer is complete, Davis Technical College

[44:42] will no longer have authority over the transfer of operation and control. So you may want to

[44:47] rethink including that transition and the motion. The other thing is with some of the things

[44:54] that I'm currently working on with USVD specifically in the process of transfers of options.

[45:00] Registration and control with charter schools. The date of June 30th, 2027, could be problematic. I would give it low to medium likelihood that we would be able to have that process complete and to meet that deadline. USBE has requested that they have at least by January 1, those transfer of operation and controls in place before the next school year.

[45:29] and so to be able to do what it takes on the State Charter School Board and the U.S.P.E.

[45:34] side to create this process and possibly even needing to create board role to support

[45:40] the process, that day's problematic.

[45:44] Okay.

[45:46] Would we like to set some motion?

[45:48] And we haven't voted on that one.

[45:50] We haven't voted, right?

[45:52] Well, I guess maybe a clarifying question, as far as like the authorizer.

[45:56] So obviously to complete this transition, it does require, like you said, kind of a two-step process.

[46:07] I guess I'm, what is the, what risk if any is there to transfer the authorization

[46:16] and to the ultimate authorizing, which would be the Utah State Charter School Board, right?

[46:22] I have a time is there that yeah that part's a very simple process and no problem you may want to but if I could

[46:28] Suggestion may want to consider just putting a period after new lanes

[46:34] Okay, because I see you're sitting on the time in this. Yeah, I think that's useful. I can express an intent of what you would like to see

[46:43] I think that would actually be very helpful for the state charter school board to understand your intent in transferring the author of the authorizer position

[46:51] So just leave off the last line that's what you're saying with our dates in there.

[46:55] Do you want me to amend my motion?

[46:57] I think that'd be fine.

[46:58] I was confused by your comment, though, just to clarify, because it does say with the intent

[47:03] of transition operation.

[47:04] So I think that is within the purview of this board to express an intent.

[47:07] I think it would actually be helpful to the state first.

[47:09] I thought that, okay.

[47:10] I'm going to see which intent to.

[47:13] You can't comment on the date.

[47:15] Right.

[47:15] What do you do?

[47:16] But you're definitely letting them know that that's part of your intent.

[47:19] That's part of what you're hoping to see once but.

[47:21] So does it stand as written with that phrase?

[47:24] I could, I should probably amend it.

[47:27] I think it would be necessary suggesting

[47:29] that we just end the sentence after many whames.

[47:31] We'll know with no great, just period.

[47:34] So I can amend my motion.

[47:36] But it's our intent that with all electra be possible.

[47:40] OK, that's the right thing.

[47:43] OK, I would like to amend my motion.

[47:46] I move that the Davis Technical College Board of Trustees

[47:48] you direct staff to pursue the transfer of the board's authorization of career path

[47:52] high to the Utah State Charter School Board with the intent of transitioning operational

[47:57] control of career path high to the northern Utah Academy for math, engineering, and science

[48:03] new aims.

[48:06] Okay.

[48:07] Thank you.

[48:08] We have a motion and a second.

[48:09] Appreciate that.

[48:10] All in favor?

[48:11] Aye.

[48:12] Aye.

[48:12] Any opposed?

[48:14] Okay.

[48:15] Motion carries.

[48:15] Thank you.

[48:17] That wasn't why we gave you the award.

[48:22] Why'd you stay around?

[48:25] That was helpful.

[48:26] Very.

[48:27] Yeah.

[48:29] Okay, a position of Bush or a brush?

[48:34] Okay.

[48:36] Okay.

[48:37] Okay.

[48:38] I'll see you.

[48:39] At least thank you too.

[48:42] Yeah.

[48:45] All right, Wendy.

[48:49] Okay, so I'm going to lean heavily on our Associate Vice President, Ellen Horne, who you hear from on a regular basis when he reports KPIs, but speaking of other duties as a sign, he's been busy with something else.

[49:03] So, and this is big. This is the biggest thing we're going to undertake during this administration that I'm part of here at Davis Tech with your blessing.

[49:19] So, this is a conversation about student information systems, so I know you didn't sign up for that.

[49:26] It gets exciting, trust me.

[49:29] So just a little bit of background and please interrupt either one of us at any point.

[49:38] Oh, just one second. Let me just check it out. Sure, we've got the rights.

[49:48] I don't think

[49:49] we are sharing.

[49:57] Yeah, but it zooms out. Just feel a little bit of a grandma meeting.

[50:03] I know.

[50:09] Well, it's, I mean, you can work on the shanglet because we'll talk to it, and this presentation

[50:14] is in, is in your packet too.

[50:19] So this describes what a student information system is, right?

[50:23] Basically what the title would suggest, it's where all of our student information is gathered,

[50:28] managed.

[50:29] It's where academic records are kept.

[50:30] That's where we handle our, well, it's where you do it, handle your enrollment registration,

[50:38] scheduling functions, right?

[50:40] It's that backbone of your academic and information systems.

[50:48] It provides a lot of administrative functions and done correctly, and these are qualifiers that

[50:53] I'm giving for a reason.

[50:55] And then it should be a portal for students and faculty and staff to not only get the information they need but also to provide a lot of self service.

[51:08] We need a quality student information system because, you know what, I'm going to go off script.

[51:14] I mean, I'm going to steal some of your thunder and then you're going to take it all for it.

[51:18] Davis Tech has a unique academic model, right?

[51:23] It's what makes us, besides our people,

[51:25] it's what makes us so good,

[51:28] because students can start most of our programs

[51:31] every other week, the competency-based,

[51:34] so they move at their own pace.

[51:37] We push them to get done soon,

[51:39] but they'll move typically at their own pace.

[51:41] We have a flexible schedule.

[51:43] You know that we're not semester-based,

[51:45] And we don't count seat time around Davis Tech because we're competency-based.

[51:49] So a student may put together a schedule that's a couple of mornings and a couple of

[51:52] afternoons in an evening.

[51:53] Whatever fits their work life balance.

[51:57] Why that model is so brilliant is because it creates maximum access.

[52:04] We're 8,000 students, not because this county is growing at this rate, at that same rate.

[52:10] it's because we've just expanded our access, and that's the foundation of our access.

[52:15] That's the brilliant part of it.

[52:18] It's stupid way to run a college, though, because there's no student information system

[52:25] that supports it.

[52:26] And so I've told some of you, we entertain guests from all over the world, and they come

[52:30] and they get all excited about our model, and they realize it's not semester-based, and their

[52:36] systems won't support it, and they leave frustrated.

[52:39] how did we solve it? We built our own system. And what someone's going to talk to you about is the useful life of that system is over.

[52:50] I would describe this as the biggest risk to this institution. When we sit down with the auditors every year, they say,

[52:57] They will tell us about your risk.

[52:59] Well, it's our student information system.

[53:02] And you may be looking at us as really smart people

[53:04] saying, well, how'd you get in this predicament?

[53:07] It's a tale of woe and a lot of it's outside our control.

[53:10] But we've coiled it together as long as we can.

[53:12] Now, the reason I said I qualified these things about what

[53:14] a student information system should do

[53:16] is because it doesn't do what we need it to do.

[53:19] There are efficiencies, security issues,

[53:22] Exficiencies to be gained, security issues, our vulnerability, we can't communicate with

[53:30] our students or student information system the way we want to.

[53:33] Owen has a team that teases data out of this all the time and it's ad hoc reporting.

[53:40] And then our students need easier access to our student information system and the way

[53:46] they interact with this college through it.

[53:48] That's our predicament.

[53:50] So it's going to make it even more dreary, but he's going to give you hope by the time

[53:53] we're done.

[53:55] Is that why you turn it over to you?

[53:56] It's not a whole way to do this.

[53:58] This meeting went off the rails a long time ago.

[54:02] Yes, like you covered a lot of the world we're at today.

[54:04] So I just want to dive into the little history and background of the system that we have and

[54:08] how we got there and what we have been happening to us today.

[54:11] So North Star is what it's called and it started here at the end of the second 2005 because

[54:17] As President said, there's nothing that can meet the needs for how they want to operate.

[54:23] So the system actually took it over and seven of the eight technical colleges all adopted it.

[54:28] Again, using it.

[54:30] It's just a machine machine.

[54:32] Now it's it today.

[54:33] I'm sorry.

[54:34] I think it's got to be like a...

[54:36] Right.

[54:36] Since we started north, I think it's probably been through four different governing bodies.

[54:40] There's so back and forth, which is part of the problem soon we could dive into.

[54:43] But so it does it was modified adapted to support the current core space scheduling and flexible scheduling model that we do operate under now, and it's allowed us to do that.

[54:54] And because we're very unique and not visually nor the schools operate this way that I've come across.

[55:00] But over the 20 years, and so it's allowed us to operate. And then you need format. It's really fallen behind in not supporting state up today with a lot of the features that we need.

[55:11] and what the schools are expecting out in modern systems.

[55:15] And a lot of the other institutions are also dissatisfied

[55:18] and the schools are starting exploring different options.

[55:22] So part of the reasons of how we got here,

[55:24] one of the biggest ones is the development team

[55:27] and self-instability.

[55:29] The one the state took it over and moved it out of the state.

[55:33] I don't know if I didn't know what to do with it at times,

[55:35] or it's been bounced around like a hot potato.

[55:37] So it was moved from UK and the new tech and then they didn't know what to do with the

[55:42] software team and with some of their business so they moved it to UN and then that didn't

[55:47] really work out, they moved it back and then when they made combined this again with

[55:50] UCI they stuck it over with the University of Utah.

[55:53] And every one of these years, so I've been here almost nine years.

[55:57] Every year there's this discussion that we're going to make a go and try to create a new

[56:01] system and then it doesn't happen and we have the same conversation in the next year while

[56:05] all of this is happening, right?

[56:07] So every time they move on, yeah, we lose all the team turnover because of the job

[56:11] and stability and moving organizations all the time, and then these studies that Darren

[56:15] was just talking about where they'd be like, well, let's put a pause on everything and

[56:19] let's look if there's a new system, and they would come back and say, no, we're going to keep

[56:22] it, and that just keeps the blame things.

[56:24] And so over time, it's just falling further and further behind, enhancements, get further

[56:30] and further behind, and they're always behind schedule and not driving a sorbling into

[56:34] D.

[56:35] So the impact on that and how that's affecting this is just massive inefficiencies, everything's manual, it does not have API's or abilities for us to automate and move data in and out of the systems like we should be able to do.

[56:49] So it requires a lot more manual work and employees to do data and it's like they're just duplicating data into the same thing in the multiple systems instead of having it in only one time which also increases our error rate and data quality.

[57:04] So thousands of years, hours of year wasted, with that just a process alone, and there

[57:10] are also spending a lot of money on other systems and trying to patchwork and make things

[57:15] work to try to catch up and make up for the deficiencies, and that this leads a really

[57:21] poor user experience.

[57:22] For both our internal and external, all our faculty staff internally, it's really hard

[57:28] to work with.

[57:29] And then for the students, they're really having to come to student services all the time

[57:33] for things that they should be able to self serve

[57:34] in a well functioning student portal.

[57:38] Also, a lot of it doesn't have any support right now

[57:41] for plans that I've seen to support any kind of

[57:46] migration of the new government privacy

[57:48] and data governance laws that have been passed

[57:50] in the last sessions.

[57:52] It doesn't support data retention,

[57:55] deletion policies, anything like that.

[57:58] There's no AI initiatives or tools being brought

[58:01] into it, currently, it's just easy, they are working on it's way behind schedule.

[58:08] So as a school in the last couple of years, we've really tried to work with the system and

[58:12] with UG to try to drive and make sure that everybody's aware of the problems.

[58:17] So we offered a white paper kind of highlighting some of the risks and different things that

[58:22] we thought the system needed.

[58:23] We've worked with all the other schools to come up with, you know, a system level approach

[58:27] to what's needed, what kind of features we wanted to see.

[58:32] Those didn't really go anywhere, unfortunately.

[58:37] And so with all the institutions starting to branch out

[58:39] and starting to explore their own options,

[58:41] the commissioner convened a cross-college working group

[58:44] where we all got together, represented

[58:46] this from all the tech colleges.

[58:48] And we all, even though we all use North Star,

[58:51] we still operate differently.

[58:54] So we wanted to come up and say, is there a way

[58:57] that we can all agree on a crime instead of the future's requirements that we can all agree on,

[59:02] which we were able to do. And then we took that and did a lot of research on some preliminary research

[59:08] and the vendors to see if there actually assist them out there that could meet our needs

[59:12] and what we're looking for now and into the future. And so after doing that, we came out with

[59:17] and there are some viable alternatives available, and so that's kind of where we are today.

[59:23] So Owen used we and all those sentences and it was Owen.

[59:30] So we feel the greatest risk and the greatest pain being the largest school and we just

[59:35] sit there and salivate over the efficiencies we know we could gain.

[59:39] So I've worked with all the other tech college presidents at the request of the commissioner

[59:42] there in at least two or three convenings.

[59:47] Olin has led the charge with a colleague from Dixie Tech

[59:52] to gather all the user requirements.

[59:55] We've got all that.

[59:56] Yeah.

[59:57] Yeah.

[1:00:00] Two weeks ago, we, I and the other Tech College Presidents met with Commissioner Landward, and he blessed us being the pilot to move forward, to build, to that and ideally build a system, adopt a system for our technical colleges. We, as Owen suggested, it was getting out a little unrest. Mountland had a collapse of their system on a variant.

[1:00:30] unfortunate day during a big enrollment day for them and so they've made up their

[1:00:33] mind they're going to pursue something even if they had to adapt their model to

[1:00:36] make something fit because I mean at the end of the day nobody wants a legacy

[1:00:40] proprietary system anymore we need something off the shelf it's yeah raw yeah

[1:00:45] welcome to your world right yeah God is at the table so because Owen has done

[1:00:54] most of this due diligence across two years he has the commissioner's

[1:00:58] confidence to help lead this charge.

[1:01:01] And so here's what we know, we, there are products.

[1:01:07] If we had, honestly, if we had this conversation three or four years ago, there weren't products

[1:01:12] that would have come.

[1:01:13] We would have had to have adopted a product that the university was using as a semester

[1:01:17] base and completely changed our model.

[1:01:20] But there has been an evolution in the space and there's competition in the marketplace

[1:01:24] place and there are some really great options and we've been bedding a couple. Alongside

[1:01:28] Ogden we've got tech actually at the same time and we think that we will probably pursue

[1:01:33] a pilot together with your blessing. Now it's all good news from here, remember I promise.

[1:01:43] So I believe that one of our sister institutions, when they went out looking for a solution

[1:01:47] last year, it came back in the millions of dollars and it was a deal-cure one for them.

[1:01:52] Owens due diligence has shown us that our implementation cost would be approximately

[1:01:58] $400,000, which is not a scary number to this institution as you know.

[1:02:03] Jeff and I met with the commissioner's office last week.

[1:02:10] Oh, and by the way, just I am, as your person at the college, I am bought in to Commissioner

[1:02:21] landlord's vision for regional integration.

[1:02:23] I think if you ask commissioner, he would say that his vision for regional integration

[1:02:27] is inspired by our relationship with Weber State University and what we've done.

[1:02:32] So I have the hill, I have told my colleagues around the state that I'm going to die on

[1:02:38] this.

[1:02:38] This has to be a shared service.

[1:02:40] It has to be something that we all do because if we all go off in eight different directions,

[1:02:44] what are we accomplished, right?

[1:02:46] And then if we think we're going to go ask the legislature for money, an implementation

[1:02:50] We're all going in different directions. I just trust you Wilson. I don't think that would go well. So this is a shared service approach

[1:02:59] That's that's my that's my vision. I believe that's the commissioner's which

[1:03:03] He blessed this last we can say

[1:03:05] Go do it and Jeff and I went with met with the CFO Nate tally and he said you know what we've got some shared services money

[1:03:12] You're gonna be our implementer. I think we can cover part of all of that in money that we have on hand. So that that was exciting, right?

[1:03:20] ongoing, we estimate it to be less than $100,000 a year, which is a savings.

[1:03:27] Yeah. Exactly. From what you're telling.

[1:03:30] Yeah. Yeah.

[1:03:33] Yeah. Now, I've been part of a couple of big system implementations and it's

[1:03:38] but we're pretty confident because this is, we've seen it go other place.

[1:03:41] Plus, here's the really, I think, the cool thing for our system is we lead out

[1:03:46] We're the hardest not to crack. By the time we get implemented, it's going to be so much easier for the other institutions, and then we've created the scale for them with the savings even escalates, right?

[1:03:58] So that's, I get excited about a shared service for all eight institutions that we can lead out on.

[1:04:07] And anyway, so time, here's it's going to take a lot of work by our subject matter experts here at Davis Tech.

[1:04:16] We've identified the groups, we've identified the people in the user groups, they've already meeting, they're fine-tuning the user requirements.

[1:04:24] We have invited all eight technical colleges to participate in this process so that it's informed to make it that much easier for them.

[1:04:34] the time comes. Obviously, I think you know the benefits, but this supports our model

[1:04:42] as a sustainable system because it is third-party product.

[1:04:50] Not only the efficiencies Mr. Vice-Chair

[1:04:52] of what we paid in North Star, how much we paid in North Star the year? About $80,000.

[1:04:57] About $80,000 a year, but then how many other systems do we have?

[1:05:00] And over 100,000 more in other systems that possibly could be replaced with this one.

[1:05:06] Those are the hard costs.

[1:05:08] But then the thing that drives me nuts more than anything around here, I told you,

[1:05:11] toward this is the human mediation that we want to eliminate.

[1:05:16] So our employees can add their greatest value with the students.

[1:05:21] And it's just amazing how much, how cumbersome it is, how much time they spend.

[1:05:27] So there's that savings.

[1:05:30] And then I made a point about piloting a shared service for all technical college.

[1:05:33] The risks, the risk I see, I think we all see, the biggest risk is not to do anything because

[1:05:40] we'll be dead in the water.

[1:05:41] Only didn't say this, but the one person with all of the knowledge about North Star immigrated

[1:05:47] to Germany a couple of years ago.

[1:05:49] And by the way, nothing gets done when he takes his five-week vacation, like North Star.

[1:05:56] The other risk of course is that we fail to implement this properly and if that happens

[1:06:00] you let me go, I mean that's, I mean that'll be some satisfaction.

[1:06:06] I don't.

[1:06:09] There's a counterproducer on the thank you, but we don't have a choice, we got to do it.

[1:06:14] Are your other campus presidents on board with this model?

[1:06:22] Yes, in terms of a student information system for all of us, or like the

[1:06:27] whores. Yes, Ogdenweaver for sure, the one I don't know is mountain land,

[1:06:33] because they were pursuing other options. But the commissioner told them to go

[1:06:37] back and re-evaluate based on what we've and based on the bedding that we've

[1:06:43] done. The smaller schools are taking a wait and see approach. Southwest Tech has

[1:06:47] said, we want to follow Davis Tech.

[1:06:49] I believe that Dixie will, too.

[1:06:52] They've expressed, oh, actually, Dixie has said they want

[1:06:54] to go in this direction with us.

[1:06:56] I believe Twill and Tech will, too.

[1:06:58] The one that surprised me the most was Bridge of Land.

[1:07:02] Bridge of Land is not.

[1:07:03] They're the one that's not on the system.

[1:07:04] They're on a customized version of an office shelf

[1:07:08] software called Janssenbar.

[1:07:10] President Campbell just announces retirement this month.

[1:07:13] And President Campbell said in the meeting,

[1:07:15] if you go with the vendor that we think

[1:07:17] you're going to go with, we want to be part of it too. So yeah, I think so. And yeah.

[1:07:23] And the commission's made it clear that they're, he's not going to support more than one

[1:07:28] direction. So is that, is that the answer?

[1:07:32] Yeah, that's great. And interestingly enough, I was here at the school when I put this

[1:07:36] or start, it was not a pretty time.

[1:07:39] Yep, keep your mind down.

[1:07:42] We remember me.

[1:07:44] The start of it.

[1:07:45] Yes.

[1:07:46] So we've talked about three or four really big things to accomplish the next 24 months

[1:07:50] around here.

[1:07:51] Number one was the last conversation.

[1:07:53] Number two is this one.

[1:07:54] And that's not actually an order of risk or importance, I don't think.

[1:07:57] This is the most important.

[1:07:59] I can't tell you what that timeline says, but you're the box.

[1:08:04] Yeah, so we've done you I'm just assuming that it talks about user requirements and original scope and so far

[1:08:14] We're ready to issue an RFP July one. That's what it comes down to

[1:08:17] Yeah, but we don't want to get ahead of our skis and we want to talk with you

[1:08:20] Now why are we talking about this before you have the second reading and adoption of a budget for next year?

[1:08:25] Because we need to put this in the budget, right? So that's why we're talking about it beforehand

[1:08:29] Yeah, the other piece of this and we're going to flash emotion up here in a minute to see.

[1:08:35] We're supposed to see the fancy, but I thought we had that big good with Stacy, so I don't know.

[1:08:42] Watch, watch this next one really carefully.

[1:08:48] This is going to be the biggest lift in the history, maybe not the history of the college.

[1:08:53] It is the biggest lift because even when you turn North Star on, how many students do we

[1:08:56] have then?

[1:08:56] Ginger?

[1:08:57] I don't know.

[1:08:57] Gosh, Jeff probably likes my 500 or three jobs in the media.

[1:09:01] Yeah, and this is 8,000 students, and so we need to reorganize to support this.

[1:09:09] So we need to put all of our assets toward it, and so when you see the motion, I'm going

[1:09:13] to ask you to,

[1:09:18] we had, this is so funny, talk about this with you at the table, Trustee

[1:09:22] Chin.

[1:09:23] I'm here because Trustee Chin was a vice president here, and she got a bigger and better

[1:09:27] job and I got to have a role job and I think at the time we had four or five vice presidents.

[1:09:31] We have created more efficiencies than you just see too.

[1:09:35] I'm proposing to you that we need a sufficient grant of authority to a third vice president

[1:09:39] to lead all of IT and our data team, which is a new development around here, which we just

[1:09:44] held a couple of years ago, pulled all together and to lead this charge, which will obviously

[1:09:50] oversee the contract and all of the resources needed to make this happen.

[1:09:55] And we have really worked on this as an executive team to develop a model that will ensure

[1:10:02] our success because we really want this up in less than 24 months.

[1:10:07] So that will also, I mean, I would also ask you to consider that as part of the motion.

[1:10:11] That's what we bring before you today.

[1:10:15] Oh, and there it is.

[1:10:16] Look at that.

[1:10:18] So yeah.

[1:10:19] Kind of a couple questions.

[1:10:21] Of course.

[1:10:25] from a budgetary impact standpoint. I heard 400,000 and I heard 100 ongoing. Do you think

[1:10:33] the cost of design and implementation is 400,000 or a little bit more?

[1:10:41] We do. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. And that's based on other schools' experience, too.

[1:10:46] You say out of school, it lives back then?

[1:10:49] The school's other places around the country that have used.

[1:10:52] We've got a short list of vendors that we would hope will respond to this.

[1:10:59] And in fact, well, in fact, we just had a deep demo again yesterday with one of the vendors.

[1:11:06] So we're confident in that number.

[1:11:09] In the 400,000 surveys, it might be more weeks than we expected it to ask.

[1:11:12] use that, how's that?

[1:11:13] Facultance is that the vendor that's coming in and implementing the software, when

[1:11:20] is that going to be expected?

[1:11:21] That would be it for the vendor itself and the implementation, custom design or custom

[1:11:28] design of the portals and process, anything we need that's not off the shelf part of it.

[1:11:34] And then the ongoing cost is also taking the count, all the systems that would be replacing,

[1:11:38] soon. So we would have some overlap initially until we could build an ongoing,

[1:11:44] there would be under 100,000 more than we're paying out for those other systems for that ongoing.

[1:11:50] After they were fully replaced.

[1:11:53] I am completely out of whack in terms of numbers, I guess.

[1:11:57] But it just seems so inexpensive given the risk and concern you have.

[1:12:04] My only general comment is that I've seen a lot of technology implementation in business

[1:12:12] and in government go really badly, because people try to do it cheaply, and it ends up

[1:12:19] costing everybody a lot more and a lot more.

[1:12:22] So that's just my only general comment that I'd rather spend more and cry once than do it

[1:12:30] over again and cry twice.

[1:12:32] Like that.

[1:12:32] And I would like you then to come to the technology stack for the Olympics, because it's more than 400 million dollars.

[1:12:40] So I'll have a date when I click to go to work there, as they spend 300 and that band of things.

[1:12:46] You can go very seriously.

[1:12:49] Could you do so?

[1:12:50] He's not available for two more years.

[1:12:53] Could you describe to the board why it's not more?

[1:13:03] I think a lot of the systems and universities and a lot of education, there's so much more

[1:13:09] to parts of these huge, there's a couple vendors like Workday, and they're usually going

[1:13:15] to talk to us or respond to us on the scale that we're at.

[1:13:18] So we have a lot smaller companies that are kind of niche that will actually do this.

[1:13:24] And so the quotes we're getting are, this is all that.

[1:13:27] I mean, we gave ourselves room based on the quotes they were giving us.

[1:13:30] We get a lot of people get details and they could come back and they were lying to us.

[1:13:36] They're just able to do it and bring them on to a school of our size and scale at the price that...

[1:13:44] You know, I think borrow some of these other systems.

[1:13:46] Like Salesforce will do everything custom and cost a fortune, right?

[1:13:49] But these guys would go mostly off the shelf and then just customize a few things.

[1:13:53] I don't work for them.

[1:13:54] I think I should have pointed out to this is not an enterprise solution that will do finance or any of our

[1:14:00] But it communicates and the one that we're looking at by the way, this is the bid that Ogden Weaver got for

[1:14:07] You know, we haven't entered into it. We haven't

[1:14:11] placed in our Fiat on the street yet. So in our betting of vendors and we're thinking the same way Ogden Weaver is about

[1:14:18] a vendor that we would expect to respond

[1:14:21] on microsoft-based, co-pilot-integrated, and integrates with the finance packages and

[1:14:33] the other software that we do.

[1:14:35] It is an enterprise.

[1:14:36] Yeah, if not, it is an enterprise platform in and of itself, but being microsoft-based.

[1:14:40] Yeah, microsoft dynamics.

[1:14:42] So, I think that's probably a big reason, too.

[1:14:46] If we were looking at workday, that's suit to nuts, right?

[1:14:49] That's they want to do everything and frankly that's who the system is

[1:14:57] for the universe.

[1:15:00] City's is a replacement to matter. Yeah. In the notes, we put that you she may provide. But if they don't, you're just on this entirely, but you have an opportunity to recoup some costs. Okay. I got it. Yeah. Got it. That was we didn't go seeking that. We figured we'd have to sell fun. Or, or, you know, I think the commission was willing to make

[1:15:29] make an appropriation request along with the Sheriff Service solution for everybody.

[1:15:36] So this, yeah, that's why it's a May.

[1:15:40] But the commissioner can't obligate a legislature, so he can go in and think to give us some money.

[1:15:46] Yeah, but you know, it's a roll over the dice.

[1:15:49] And the $400,000 implementation is over two years.

[1:15:52] Correct.

[1:15:53] We'll put a full thing in this budget and we don't spend a roll over the dice.

[1:15:57] Yeah.

[1:15:59] Oh, and we'll have to keep paying North Star.

[1:16:02] We have a two-year notice requirement.

[1:16:06] Yeah, but we need to do that,

[1:16:07] because we need to fund it for the other schools

[1:16:09] until they come online, too.

[1:16:10] So I will commit to this board that if that number gets out

[1:16:16] from under us during our request for proposal process

[1:16:20] or even early implementation,

[1:16:22] we will come back to this board.

[1:16:37] I move that the Davis Technical College Board of Trustees direct staff to pursue the

[1:16:42] replacement of the North Star Student Information System, including budgeting 400,000 for

[1:16:48] implementation, and authorize the president to reorganize operations as necessary to support

[1:16:54] implementation.

[1:16:59] Okay. Thank you. All in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:17:15] $400,000.

[1:17:22] Well, that was the best part of me.

[1:17:24] The most best part of me.

[1:17:26] There really hasn't been a lot of substantive changes to the budget from when we presented it in our last board meeting.

[1:17:32] The main has already been discussed fully with a $400,000.

[1:17:37] There's been a little bit of movement of dollars between different categories as we

[1:17:44] pulled up a package that was approved last time and you'll notice we crossed the $50

[1:17:53] million mark that's elected for the school and then on page 153 you'll load it.

[1:17:59] The numbers who have been on the board of the University

[1:18:01] indicate that we've added a few requests

[1:18:03] on our friends with the Internal Office for now.

[1:18:09] Now, Timothy Hsie.

[1:18:10] They asked us to produce more visibility

[1:18:13] into our campus discretionary card,

[1:18:18] which is the interest and public school receives,

[1:18:21] and also, more visibility into President

[1:18:24] Russia's office budget.

[1:18:27] And so we've added that on page 153, both of these budgets are included in what we've

[1:18:34] always produced as our overall college budget, but this gives you greater visibility going

[1:18:39] forward as to how much is being spent in those specific categories.

[1:18:44] And so you'll notice there's not a lot of activity there because there typically isn't, but

[1:18:49] that's more for your information.

[1:18:51] And as always, if you ever have attention on the finance and the school, you can see a story in the news.

[1:18:57] Feel free to reach out to me.

[1:18:59] We're very transparent on everything we do with our budgeting.

[1:19:02] And so if you ever have any concerns on how our school does things, please reach out to me.

[1:19:06] We're happy to entertain those questions.

[1:19:09] But since there's not a lot of changes, since the first job in the head, we've been very busy.

[1:19:14] Does anyone have any questions?

[1:19:17] I

[1:19:20] see the 11.8 increase in health.

[1:19:24] and 4.9 in dental that makes my heart hurt.

[1:19:28] I think all of everyone shares that pain.

[1:19:30] Yeah, what can you do about that?

[1:19:34] I will try.

[1:19:36] I will try.

[1:19:41] Yeah, that is.

[1:19:43] Fortunately, our health insurance is with PEHP.

[1:19:49] And so we receive the same benefits as the state employees.

[1:19:53] and the state does dictate to PHB some of what they can pass the pass long does.

[1:20:00] And some years are more aggressive than ours.

[1:20:03] You know Jeff, that reminds me.

[1:20:05] So speaking of shared services, the state board of higher education is gone through a process

[1:20:11] of trying to evaluate if there is an economy of scale in the shared buying power of all the institutions in that space.

[1:20:19] sure it's politically fraught because you know we've got lots of providers who and you've got

[1:20:25] even the university as a health system of course right so they are looking at engaging with a

[1:20:32] broker to see if there's some vine power ability there and I think the commissioner said the other

[1:20:39] day he said you know even if we were able to come up with a prescription benefit across the entire

[1:20:45] system. It would be a significant statement. So this is a conversation going on

[1:20:50] as a system way above my favorite. I think that's a good strategy.

[1:21:04] Okay.

[1:21:07] That's it

[1:21:07] on the budget. Okay. All right. We seem to like to make a motion to approve the

[1:21:12] fiscal year 2027 budget. Thank you. Okay. We have a motion in a second.

[1:21:26] I'll

[1:21:26] Yeah, President Brush.

[1:21:28] Yeah, just the words no one wanted to hear.

[1:21:31] You've heard enough from me already.

[1:21:33] Just a couple of things.

[1:21:34] I do want to thank Jeff and Kelly and our entire team.

[1:21:40] These are some really heavy lifts coming out

[1:21:42] for this institution.

[1:21:44] And Owen did mention it, but I think there's

[1:21:46] a general enthusiasm around these subject matter groups

[1:21:49] because they see with a new student information system

[1:21:55] They see some relief and it's a lot of work but they're up for the challenge and where

[1:22:00] it's busy as we've ever been because we are a big school.

[1:22:04] So and thank you to you.

[1:22:06] Thank you for your support.

[1:22:06] It means everything.

[1:22:07] You're smart people and I always learn from you.

[1:22:10] Jeff talked about it almost sounded like the changes to the transparency of my spending.

[1:22:17] Maybe I'm just a sense there's something unique to me.

[1:22:20] It's not.

[1:22:21] It's all presidents.

[1:22:22] You do not have me to thank for that new direction.

[1:22:26] That's right.

[1:22:27] But I have to assure you of my compliance.

[1:22:31] Yeah, I assure you of my continued vigilance.

[1:22:38] Jeff also talked about, he welcomes any calls, any questions.

[1:22:44] I am so pleased with the financial transparency

[1:22:46] of this institution.

[1:22:49] So much so that you'll see in under my report that our fiscal team, Jeff, our controller

[1:22:56] ad and the entire fiscal team, earned for the eighth consecutive year, the GFOA certificate

[1:23:03] of excellence and getting the name wrong.

[1:23:06] Oh, no.

[1:23:07] Achievement for excellence and financial reporting.

[1:23:10] That is due to the highest degree of transparency and accuracy.

[1:23:16] We're the only institution of higher education in the state of Utah that has earned that and we've

[1:23:20] earned it eight years in a row so it's fun to share that.

[1:23:29] And seventh, so they told me I can't say this.

[1:23:32] So I'm not going to say that we have also a reminder that we had 17 years of clean state

[1:23:37] financial audits, right?

[1:23:38] Yes.

[1:23:39] Especially since the auditor's office has shared with us that they're determined to find areas

[1:23:47] is where we can improve into the system with that technical system.

[1:23:50] So, Jeff, Jeff was cringes that please don't say that because you're jinxing it and this may be the year.

[1:23:57] But we're going to continue to celebrate 17 years of clean financial audits.

[1:24:01] I've been part of three large public agencies.

[1:24:04] None of them had a track or anything else to this.

[1:24:08] So, congratulations on that.

[1:24:10] Just two other quick things for our school district partners.

[1:24:14] We all felt the canvas.

[1:24:16] pain for those of you who don't know, we were down for the better part of a day with

[1:24:24] a breach to, a sturdy breach to, in structure is the company canvass is the product that's

[1:24:30] the learning management system we use, your kids are probably used later. Family members

[1:24:35] you may have used it, 9,000 schools use it in the United States. It's a long story but

[1:24:44] We, there's limited personal information that our students have in Canvas.

[1:24:50] We don't know yet how, you know, how that may be affected.

[1:24:59] The good news is that we got it, they got it back up and running so we didn't lose more

[1:25:03] than part of it, large part of the day, ultimately I guess, right?

[1:25:08] So there'll be a debrief on that.

[1:25:10] We're talking, I mean, it made us cause this to realize how helpless we are.

[1:25:16] Yeah, you're not in your head, Bridget.

[1:25:18] Yeah, I mean, you've got 70-something thousand students, right?

[1:25:24] And we've talked about, okay, how do we handle this in the future, right?

[1:25:29] Even though it's outside of control.

[1:25:30] So we're having those conversations and figuring out what that means.

[1:25:34] God forbid it happened again.

[1:25:36] Anyway, the only thing I wanted to say, and I don't know if Trustee Wilson wants to add

[1:25:43] to this because I'll probably not do a justice, but I had the opportunity to sit in conversations

[1:25:50] with the selection of the new president, Weber State University, Dr. Mallet, he's impressive.

[1:25:56] It's very impressive.

[1:25:57] and he's already reached out a couple of times.

[1:26:02] He understands the system's goal of integration,

[1:26:06] the regional integration.

[1:26:08] He's an innovator, he's a disruptor,

[1:26:11] and we've just stayed along.

[1:26:14] He and his wife.

[1:26:16] So anyway, I'm excited about that because, you know,

[1:26:20] you worry that we've done so much,

[1:26:21] we don't want to slow down.

[1:26:25] And I think you'll hit the ground running, and I do want to publicly just share President

[1:26:30] Durham who served as interim president.

[1:26:32] I mean, I don't know if she hears you.

[1:26:35] President Warton hired her as the provost, was she here a month?

[1:26:38] Yeah, three months.

[1:26:40] Three months.

[1:26:40] Uh-huh.

[1:26:41] Before he bailed on all of us.

[1:26:44] Anyway, she stepped in brilliantly, and we thought, oh gosh, here's how long is this going

[1:26:50] to take until he got a president?

[1:26:52] And she was brilliant or doing our CNA program up at the Layton campus now.

[1:26:59] I mean, she was just such a champion.

[1:27:01] So the fact that we were state gets this great president and gets to hold on to their wonderful provost.

[1:27:07] I mean, I don't know how many times she was here.

[1:27:09] She had to have yet today to understand it.

[1:27:13] Anyway, she was wonderful.

[1:27:15] I'm pleased that she'll still be around.

[1:27:18] So I'm very optimistic about we per state, the future we per state, Trustee Wilson is our

[1:27:24] shared trustee with we per state, so I know he was intimately involved with that selection

[1:27:29] too.

[1:27:34] Kind of yet, I don't know, I'm, there's other stuff.

[1:27:39] This is a big doubt today.

[1:27:42] I want to start.

[1:27:43] I want these guys and the other 500 employees around here that make it all happen under your

[1:27:49] leadership.

[1:27:49] So thank you.

[1:27:51] Did we want to mention something about the Treasury?

[1:27:55] Oh, yeah.

[1:27:55] Oh, I forgot.

[1:27:56] Yeah.

[1:27:57] You're good.

[1:27:57] Yeah.

[1:27:58] Go for it.

[1:28:01] So for the last couple of years, we have been trying to open an avenue for greater interest

[1:28:09] earnings on our endowment fund.

[1:28:11] It's with the foundation.

[1:28:13] And just this week, we had a good conversation with the State Treasurer's Office.

[1:28:18] that will give us access to the same investments as the higher education endowment fund that is run by the commissioners on this.

[1:28:27] Okay.

[1:28:28] So there's a few things that we need to accomplish.

[1:28:31] We'll need to make some minor edits to our investment policy.

[1:28:35] But in the next few months, we'll be bringing that in for your approval.

[1:28:41] But the whole business that we'll be able to improve our returns on from more scholarships to our students.

[1:28:46] just by having access to a new vehicle that really has not been offered to, you know,

[1:28:53] it's $7 million sounds like a lot to a normal person, but in the investment world, it's

[1:28:59] really not much, and so the level of advice and guidance that we'll be able to get an access

[1:29:05] to these funds will be significant, so that's something we look forward to, and working with

[1:29:11] Christmas office they just suggested a few tweaks to our investment policy that will

[1:29:19] broaden in policy the expectations for the management.

[1:29:24] We'd hoped to be in that fund a year ago and we thought the treasure's office and you

[1:29:29] should thought we needed legislative language and we got to the end of the session everybody

[1:29:34] told us well we didn't really ever need language so we'll just work together and here's the heartbreaking

[1:29:39] part.

[1:29:39] What did that fund earn last year?

[1:29:43] We've been in a money market.

[1:29:50] What did they change in terms of just money market versus the managed?

[1:29:57] The public treasure is the best funder of the PTI.

[1:30:00] Okay. Is really the cash account? Is it? Okay. It's just a lot more. It's very liquid and because of that, they do get pretty decent returns. But nothing like something that's invested in longer term horizon. And we do have access to those longer term horizons investments, but we have to go through a broker. We have to follow the state money management act. And when you put all those requirements in place, you suddenly find that your returns, less investment managers fee,

[1:30:33] The PTIF is 100% secure, it's never lost money, which is reassuring for public funds.

[1:30:41] The downside is it does not return as much as it possibly could have.

[1:30:46] Got it.

[1:30:47] That's great.

[1:30:51] Okay.

[1:30:52] That's it.

[1:30:53] Yes.

[1:30:54] Thank you.

[1:30:54] Okay.

[1:30:54] Do we need a motion?

[1:30:55] Yes.

[1:30:56] All right.

[1:30:57] With some.

[1:30:58] Thank you everyone.

[1:30:59] someone like to make a motion to adjourn, okay thank you all in, all in favor?

[1:31:05] No, no, we don't vote, we're just done, okay, sounds good, thank you everybody, okay, thank you, I apologize, I was at a WFRC meeting but I had to record on as a chair and so I was trying to leave quickly.

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