[0:00] Okay, I think we're ready to roll with

[0:02] our online group and our in room group.

[0:07] So, I'll go ahead and call to order our

[0:09] uh lead board meeting for Monday, March

[0:11] 23rd. Um before before we launch into

[0:16] some of our agenda items, um I wanted to

[0:21] give Mayor Wright an opportunity to just

[0:24] give us an update on um the tragedies in

[0:28] Williams County

[0:30] acknowledge him and acknowledge those

[0:34] struggles. So,

[0:36] Mayor, right, if you're

[0:38] >> Yep. Can you hear me?

[0:40] >> Yes, we can.

[0:43] Good. Um, first and foremost, thank everyone there for all your

[0:49] thoughts and prayers. It was really

[0:51] appreciated. Um, we we had the

[0:56] celebration of life and the last funeral

[0:58] for Mrs. uh Redd was Friday.

[1:02] So, that part of it, we're moving

[1:04] forward and and now it's waiting for the

[1:08] legal system to do its thing. And

[1:11] apparently that'll be sometime in May

[1:13] before we'll know about extradition and

[1:16] those sorts of things.

[1:21] » I know that um just such a senseless

[1:24] tragedy and and you know so so odd that

[1:28] this person would pick your your

[1:30] communities for these acts of violence.

[1:33] I'm

[1:35] deeply sorry that you're having to

[1:37] experience this as a community. Um the

[1:40] only silver lining to things like this I

[1:41] think sometimes

[1:44] together and support each other. So um

[1:47] >> yep. Thank you.

[1:52] » Thank you for taking a minute to share

[1:53] with us and hopefully if there's

[1:55] anything that you need that your city

[1:57] your extended city family can provide

[1:59] you know that you've got lots of

[2:01] resources happen too.

[2:04] >> Thanks. I really appreciate that.

[2:09] uh the minutes that were attached in our

[2:13] packet were not the right minutes. So,

[2:15] we're actually going to skip that part

[2:17] of um our agenda in terms of approving

[2:20] the minutes. Um just as a reminder,

[2:22] there is a conflict of interest form. Um

[2:26] Seth is Seth is trying to choke me on a

[2:29] sandwich next to me, but I don't think

[2:30] we will survive.

[2:32] >> He really choked up choked up. Um, so

[2:36] we'll we'll skip we'll skip the minutes

[2:38] uh for the time being and double up on

[2:40] the next meeting. Um, if anyone has a

[2:43] conflict of interest to declare or needs

[2:45] to update their form, please note that's

[2:47] in your packet and and do so. And before

[2:51] we launch into our agenda item number

[2:54] three, which is our boards and

[2:55] commissions report, I don't know about

[2:57] the rest of you, but I have been going

[2:59] through some withdrawals since the

[3:01] session ended, namely from Slido.

[3:05] So, I I actually

[3:08] uh emailed Carson late last night and

[3:11] asked if he would make us a couple

[3:13] questions so that we can um make sure

[3:17] that none of us get the the slido shakes

[3:19] by the end of the meeting.

[3:22] So uh

[3:25] prepared uh two two questions for all of

[3:28] us to consider um in the spirit of the

[3:32] fact that I love

[3:34] rather

[3:36] um and so this one is um

[3:40] a question about this this bill has come

[3:42] up in past sessions. it did not come up

[3:45] this session but has been a current

[3:46] frustration of mine based on the fact

[3:49] that we just did this [clears throat]

[3:50] exercise

[3:52] um where I'm again back to walking the

[3:55] dog in the dark and having to change the

[3:58] timing on all of our exterior lights. So

[4:00] I would like to know

[4:03] would you rather Utah move to permanent

[4:06] standard time or permanent daylight

[4:09] savings time or my plan

[4:14] which is we move it in 30 minutes with

[4:15] the difference again.

[4:27] » I just think we could have it both ways.

[4:29] 30 minutes our own time. Utah time. We

[4:31] already have the joke about Utah

[4:33] standard time. Why not? Why not go with

[4:35] this?

[4:36] >> We just skip it and just everybody pick

[4:37] their own time.

[4:40] >> Show up to work late.

[4:43] on daylight. Daylight,

[4:45] >> if you had emailed Carson, we could have

[4:47] had

[4:50] option on third. Okay. Well, I'm glad to

[4:52] see that so many of you agreed with me

[4:56] in this. Would you rather? Oh, I said

[4:58] that now.

[4:58] >> You said that.

[5:02] » Okay. We also prepared a second

[5:04] question.

[5:06] So, we'll move to this one. So I have a

[5:09] fascination with the list of Utah

[5:12] themseling

[5:31] [laughter]

[5:33] up here.

[5:40] So we have not gone have not in 22

[5:42] sessions not had a bill state thing not

[5:45] it doesn't always pass this year there

[5:47] was a bill to make the Android operating

[5:49] system the part of the state symbols

[5:53] this bill didn't advance because it's

[5:56] just so wrong [laughter]

[6:00] way to go but uh we don't actually have

[6:03] a state food we do have a state cooking

[6:05] pot it's the Dutch oven in case you were

[6:07] wondering. No,

[6:08] >> but we don't have a state food. So then

[6:10] I was curious if we were to introduce

[6:11] our own bill next session for state

[6:14] food, what would it be? And it looks

[6:15] like you all think it's

[6:16] >> funeral.

[6:32] » Okay. It's our thing.

[6:34] >> Does everyone feel better that you've

[6:35] engaged in the slido?

[6:36] >> Yes.

[6:37] >> Okay. So, uh, now that we've engaged in

[6:42] our state slido or our league slido

[6:44] event, um, I'm now I'm going to turn a

[6:46] little bit of time over to Cameron

[6:49] learning about um, why he's on family

[6:53] leave and only appearing with us for a

[6:54] short amount.

[6:56] Excited I am here today. First of all,

[6:58] thank you everybody for your time today.

[7:02] And the purpose of today's board meeting

[7:04] is to set the stage for the interim. As

[7:07] terrible as that is to say, two weeks

[7:09] after the legislative session ended, uh

[7:12] Justin and I have already received calls

[7:13] from legislators, legislative staff,

[7:16] governor's office, and others starting

[7:18] the process for bill files for next year

[7:21] and big ticket items. In fact, the

[7:24] session ended Friday. the following Monday

[7:32] didn't get any any calls but the Tuesday

[7:34] I did a legislator wanting to start

[7:37] talking about this the 2027 session and

[7:41] as we indicated that the LPC briefing

[7:44] our post session briefing uh the

[7:46] Thursday after the session we already

[7:48] have 20 plus items that are on the

[7:51] agenda and we haven't even started our

[7:53] own outreach to our members for

[7:54] potential bills or four topics.

[7:58] So today's meeting really is setting the

[8:00] stage for the interum. Now that's not

[8:02] what President Bradshaw asked me about.

[8:04] >> No, I was going to remind you that was

[8:06] not what I

[8:08] >> You'll you'll also see that in the in

[8:11] the board agenda, we've referenced the

[8:14] board objectives as a framing device for

[8:16] the different topics we'll be hitting

[8:18] today. And deep dive for those of you

[8:20] who are new that I'll talk more about

[8:22] that later. Uh what she wants me to

[8:24] mention is that uh Wednesday after the

[8:27] session, my wife gave birth to a baby

[8:31] boy who's healthy. Um his name is

[8:33] Brennan Joseph and and he hasn't figured

[8:37] out when is day and when is night or how

[8:39] to sleep for longer than 90 minutes at a

[8:41] time. So I will do my best prison fall

[8:45] asleep during board meeting. Uh but um

[8:48] my wife is recovering and uh Joy has had

[8:52] some health issues during the pregnancy,

[8:54] but she's recovering um with each day.

[8:57] And and then I've been on family leave

[9:01] with board members who actually most of

[9:04] you weren't on the board when the board

[9:05] had this discussion several years ago,

[9:07] but the league did institute a family

[9:09] leave policy several years ago and he's

[9:11] benefiting from that now. So thank you

[9:12] very much. that family leave is

[9:15] facilitated, my wife,

[9:18] me being able to spend time with Brendan

[9:21] who's now a week and a half old and then

[9:23] also with my with my daughters who are

[9:26] 85 who are adjusting to being big

[9:28] sisters and loving every minute of being

[9:30] big sisters. Um, so

[9:34] it's my wife and I have commented

[9:36] multiple times just how different the

[9:38] last week and a half has been compared

[9:39] to the our first two. [clears throat]

[9:42] Our oldest daughter, she was born during

[9:44] the session, but she was born on a

[9:46] Tuesday, not exactly capital on Thursday

[9:48] just because we know session be in

[9:50] session. We didn't have any policies at

[9:52] the time. And then our second daughter

[9:55] was born during COVID. And the week

[9:58] where when George Floyd was killed and

[10:01] so you had the protests and everything

[10:04] else and started back your former police

[10:06] chief and I were on the phone together a

[10:08] few days after my second daughter was

[10:10] born discussing whether or not there

[10:11] should be a statewide curfew. So to go

[10:14] from the experiences of having a newborn

[10:16] during those two eras versus the life we

[10:19] have just been day. So, thank you for

[10:22] approving a family leave policy so that

[10:24] my family can benefit from it. And I'll

[10:26] be and thank you to my staff who did a

[10:29] great job in DC last week while I was

[10:31] out. And I'll be out again off and on

[10:34] for the next the next few weeks um

[10:36] staying on top of things I need to stay

[10:38] on top of, but also

[10:40] helping my wife and and taking care of.

[10:44] So, thank you.

[10:47] » I can show you one on my phone. I don't

[10:49] have one for the public meeting but

[10:51] [laughter]

[10:52] okay

[10:53] >> I did just for the board I did try and

[10:56] do a side poll I was going to suggest

[11:00] names they might consider

[11:02] >> you did suggest name

[11:03] >> I did suggest a name

[11:05] of the [clears throat]

[11:07] >> um I just thought was a good name

[11:11] » as much as she thought Kate was a good

[11:13] name there were others who thought other

[11:14] names were good too

[11:16] >> like we just suggested

[11:22] Jack the stats of how big you have been

[11:26] born

[11:28] 5 ounces born a week and a half early

[11:32] technically 19 just but who knows all

[11:35] over the place

[11:38] my wife's recovering and doing well

[11:41] awesome

[11:44] >> this is important to know this how soon

[11:47] after he or did you put him in a

[11:49] University of Utah onesie?

[11:51] >> So, I have a couple University of Utah

[11:53] onesies, but he actually hasn't worn any

[11:54] of them yet because I'm told words about

[11:59] my current feelings for the university.

[12:08] » Will take you anybody

[12:16] has watched a lot of tournament. Well,

[12:17] he slept through it, but he's been in my

[12:19] arms for some basketball games.

[12:22] >> Well, I'm sure I speak for the entire

[12:23] board when we say it's um

[12:26] your work ethic and the amount of hours

[12:29] you put in year round for special

[12:32] is really just tremendous. Um the time

[12:36] uh the time that you're spending now is

[12:39] really important and so we expect you

[12:41] after this meeting endurance to ignore

[12:43] our text and emails. You have a very

[12:45] capable staff. spend spend the time. Um

[12:49] there's really nothing more important.

[12:53] >> Okay, with that we'll go back to our

[12:56] agenda.

[12:58] >> If there's any other

[13:00] Okay. Uh we will then move to our board

[13:03] and commission reports and appointments.

[13:05] Alexa, if you want to

[13:07] >> funeral potatoes and baby Brandon are

[13:09] hard to follow.

[13:11] We just have one item that we need to

[13:13] take action on today and then I have a

[13:15] few updates on boards and commissions

[13:17] that came out of the legislative

[13:18] session. So, first you as the key board

[13:21] of directors are responsible responsible

[13:23] for nominating an elected or appointed

[13:26] municipal official to the governor for

[13:28] him to choose from when making

[13:29] appointments to the private activity

[13:30] bond review board. The PAB review board

[13:33] is responsible for allocating the

[13:34] state's private activity bond volume

[13:36] cap, which includes lower interest

[13:38] primary loans for a variety of uses,

[13:40] namely affordable housing development.

[13:42] Um, currently South Jordan City

[13:44] Treasurer Chip Dawson is a municipal

[13:47] representative on the PA review board

[13:50] that his term will end on May 1st. So,

[13:53] we recommend that you nominate your very

[13:55] own Clearfield Mayor, Mark Shepard, to

[13:58] serve a four-year term on this board.

[14:00] Mayor Shepard's professional experience

[14:02] in the real estate industry and housing

[14:04] finance along with his his um almost two

[14:07] decades service as an elected official.

[14:10] Sorry.

[14:18] » That start

[14:29] [laughter]

[14:31] year.

[14:34] » So recommend you nominate Mayor Sheepard

[14:36] to the 8 board. Mayor Shepard, I don't

[14:38] know if you have anything to add, but

[14:40] that's the only item we need action.

[14:42] >> You summarize it pretty well. [laughter]

[14:48] » That's amazing.

[14:49] >> Right. And so, do we want to take action

[14:51] on that right now or should they go

[14:52] through my updates first before

[14:54] >> anyone have any deep grilling questions

[14:57] they'd like to ask Mark? If not,

[15:00] >> sorry about this.

[15:02] [laughter]

[15:04] >> You want to establish any other things

[15:06] that you feel like are critical

[15:08] ability to represent us on this board?

[15:12] >> No. Okay. In that case, let's let's

[15:16] move to the other.

[15:17] >> I move to

[15:19] have the illustrious

[15:32] Any discussion?

[15:34] Okay, seeing none. All in favor?

[15:37] >> I

[15:40] >> We'll give just a minute for those

[15:41] online. Any opposed?

[15:45] Seeing none, it looks like you'll be

[15:48] able to uh deploy the wisdom of all of

[15:51] your elected years [laughter]

[15:54] forward to nine election years ago.

[15:58] » Awesome. All right. And then I just have

[15:59] a few updates on boards and commissions

[16:01] that came out of this most recent

[16:03] legislative session. So HB475, that's

[16:06] from 2026, not 2025. A typo. Um created

[16:10] the economic development council within

[16:11] the governor's office of economic

[16:13] development. Yes, it was re renamed back

[16:16] to go from Goyo also in this bill. So,

[16:18] this board is responsible for coord

[16:20] coordinating um economic development

[16:22] projects with regional or statewide

[16:24] significance. Um and one of the 10

[16:27] members on the board is to be appointed

[16:29] by you all the cities and towns boards

[16:32] board of directors. So, likely next

[16:35] month or in May we will come back for an

[16:37] appointment to this board. Um and then

[16:40] HB507

[16:42] created a in tax increment financing

[16:45] work group within the political

[16:47] subdivision intern. The work group is

[16:49] required to be created by May 30th and

[16:51] is required to study tax increment

[16:53] financing and make a recommendation

[16:55] regarding the maximum percentage of tax

[16:57] increment or maximum total amount of

[17:00] revenue to be gener to be generated and

[17:02] utilized through tax increment

[17:04] financing. So taking a more holistic

[17:06] look at all of the different policies

[17:08] related to chip that were passed this

[17:10] session. So this work group will consist

[17:12] of seven members is required to come up

[17:14] with a recommendation by November 1st

[17:15] and one of those members is to be uh

[17:18] appointed by this body. So again he'll

[17:21] come back with those for appointment

[17:24] next month and then I'll pass it along

[17:26] to Cameron and Molly to talk about your

[17:29] pipeline workroom and the mitigation.

[17:30] before you leave that those two. So the

[17:33] first one um

[17:36] involving goed is a longer term

[17:39] assignment. The second one is a short

[17:42] condensed by November assignment.

[17:45] >> Correct.

[17:46] >> Okay. And are you looking for

[17:49] uh someone that's more in a staff

[17:52] practitioner role for the second

[17:53] assignment or for this one either either

[17:58] from a staff or an elective perspective?

[18:00] I think either or at this point that second one

[18:06] is a little less formal. Yeah. So we

[18:10] want to have a few more conversations

[18:11] with legislative research staff who will

[18:14] be staffing that group to figure out

[18:17] what the right person and what the right

[18:19] skill set is for that that meeting.

[18:22] Whereas that other one you know that

[18:24] other one is a very very important

[18:26] political body. It's not the UEOC from

[18:30] several years ago but it's in that

[18:32] spirit. So it's a yeah that's a

[18:35] different task.

[18:36] >> Okay.

[18:38] So, um, if people are interested, um, if

[18:44] you'll get any of those, uh, indications

[18:47] of interest or suggestions

[18:50] that prepared to talk about it when

[18:52] we're all down in St. George and April.

[18:55] >> Yes. Thank you. Thanks, everyone.

[18:59] » Okay. And then Molly and Cameron, are

[19:01] you going to talk about this next two?

[19:03] >> Yep. I'll do the first I'll do the

[19:06] second. The pioneer pipeline work group

[19:09] only affects a head of cities. So as of

[19:11] now they know who they are. But this was

[19:14] this is quickly situational awareness

[19:16] for the board. So part of the

[19:19] discussions around the gas tax

[19:22] with the petroleum industry and other

[19:24] stakeholders.

[19:26] There was an expectation

[19:30] that made it legislative intent

[19:35] to expand the pipeline capacity coming

[19:38] into the state of Utah to bring more

[19:41] crude to the state fire. So when I say

[19:44] the cities know who they are, the

[19:45] pioneer pipeline currently runs through

[19:47] unincorporated Summit County,

[19:49] unincorporated Salt Lake County,

[19:51] Immigration Canyon,

[19:53] Salt Lake City, Woods, North Salt Lake,

[19:56] and West.

[19:57] So if there is pipeline expansion

[20:01] following the Pioneer route, right,

[20:03] Pioneer pipeline route, it would come

[20:05] through those jurisdictions. That

[20:08] doesn't necessarily mean it will come

[20:09] through those jurisdictions.

[20:12] It's possible that as they start to work

[20:13] on where this new pipeline will come,

[20:16] there could be other alignments they

[20:18] could look at that could then in turn

[20:19] bring in other communities. The reason

[20:21] we wanted to bring up situational

[20:22] awareness here is that there were there

[20:24] were some pretty spirited discussions

[20:27] the last couple weeks of the session

[20:29] whether or not there should have been

[20:31] some statutory direction that really

[20:34] amounted to preeemption of land use and

[20:36] regulatory authority at the local level

[20:39] and try to facilitate this and we pushed

[20:40] back on that and actually had a great

[20:43] meeting with all seven of those

[20:45] jurisdictions and ultimately the

[20:48] legislators involved said you're right

[20:50] partnership ship is a better approach

[20:51] here than preeemption. And so they've

[20:54] made it clear that they want to see

[20:56] collaboration between all the

[20:57] governmental entities to figure out the

[20:59] pipeline. And I expect meetings will

[21:01] start

[21:04] but situational awareness for everybody

[21:06] there. Right now it only affects seven

[21:07] jurisdictions but it could affect others

[21:09] depending on what that alignment might

[21:11] look like.

[21:13] >> Excellent. And um so for the mitigation

[21:16] task force, we've chatting for a while

[21:18] about

[21:21] have some updates on how fund work to

[21:25] the city. Um originally in AP596, there

[21:29] were some provisions that created a task

[21:33] to work on these issues. Um however,

[21:35] AP596 did not pass and the provisions of

[21:38] that bill uh that were moved into other

[21:41] bills that did pass did not include this

[21:43] mitigation task force. Um the nice thing

[21:46] is that we don't need statute to create

[21:48] a task force. Um and so the plan is uh

[21:53] Tyler Clansink is the new state

[21:54] homelessness coordinator who'll be

[21:56] joining us later today. Um but our goal

[21:59] is to have a group of shelter cities,

[22:04] non-shelter cities, um and uh together

[22:08] clampy um as well as support from le

[22:10] staff to kind of have that conversation

[22:12] about

[22:14] what mitigation funding should look

[22:15] like, contributions, contributions, um

[22:18] reporting how dollars are spent, things

[22:20] of that nature. So, um, still pretty

[22:23] nent in figuring out what exactly that

[22:25] will look like, but, uh, the staff in

[22:27] partnership likely with OHS will bring a

[22:30] proposal for the board and from there,

[22:33] um, we'll we'll solicit folks to to

[22:35] serve on that

[22:39] staff members.

[22:41] >> Uh, we haven't made a determination yet.

[22:43] I think it's um,

[22:46] potentially similar to this other group.

[22:48] I think we want to make sure that in

[22:50] some cities the elected officials really

[22:52] know their numbers in and out especially

[22:54] for the shelter cities and in some uh

[22:57] it's more staff driven and so I think

[23:00] the you know potential quote unquote

[23:01] best fit per city may vary um between

[23:06] elective and staff just based on how

[23:08] those were set up

[23:12] and Tyler will be here later this

[23:14] afternoon as part of board meeting.

[23:19] any questions you can bring up there.

[23:21] Looking forward to that. So, thank you.

[23:22] Molly. And um I think that

[23:25] was it, right?

[23:26] >> Okay.

[23:30] I picked an inopportune time to sneak in

[23:32] a bite of my sandwich.

[23:34] Um and then the next item, which is our

[23:37] engagement report, also by Molly.

[23:41] Um, so as far as engagement goes,

[23:43] there's a reminder on what our support

[23:46] objectives are on engagement. We don't

[23:48] need to spend a lot of time chating

[23:49] about this today

[23:52] meeting, but it is to engage with league

[23:54] memberships, strengthen connection to

[23:56] organizations, ongoing challenges,

[23:59] provide league resources and events that

[24:01] meet the very needs of membership, and

[24:03] pursue and facilitate technical

[24:04] assistance to support municipalities. Um

[24:07] so other updates for you as they kind of

[24:10] fit within those objectives. I think uh

[24:12] one of our really big wins from session

[24:15] able to fully restore um the funding for

[24:18] the LAA program ongoing. Um

[24:22] it was a really tight budget year. Uh

[24:24] even though the governor did include LAA

[24:27] funding in his budget, it was only one

[24:29] time and having those dollars ongoing is

[24:33] huge to help us have some more stability

[24:35] in this program and make it so that we

[24:37] don't have to spend critical capital

[24:39] year after year to try to get those

[24:41] dollars time and time again. So um a

[24:43] huge thank you to everyone um who helped

[24:47] advocate for that. It was a massive

[24:49] effort from community that do

[24:51] participate in the program and those

[24:52] that don't. So, a big thank you to all

[24:54] of you and I think a big shout out to

[24:57] McKenna and our contractors who have

[24:59] stuck with us uh throughout this

[25:01] uncertainty um of trying to restore

[25:03] those dollars and I think we're really

[25:05] excited to see um what the future holds

[25:07] for this program.

[25:08] >> Well, I'll just add two quick things. I

[25:10] want to thank the league officers. The

[25:12] officers [clears throat] met with with

[25:13] President Adams and Speaker Schultz

[25:16] before the session and during the

[25:17] session to make sure they knew the

[25:19] priority of the LA funding and what that

[25:21] meant for our smallest members and and

[25:25] both the Senate President and the

[25:27] Speaker expressed their support and

[25:30] appreciation for the good work that's been done there.

[25:34] The we were able to address some

[25:35] political issues that arose last year

[25:37] that resulted in that funding cut and we

[25:39] got those addressed too. throws a of a

[25:41] win-win all the way around there. The

[25:44] second piece that we'll talk about later

[25:46] in the meeting is that last year we put

[25:50] the big picture strategic discussion

[25:52] around delay on pause because we weren't

[25:54] sure what the funding was going to look

[25:55] like. Now we know the funding's there.

[25:58] So that would be part of our discussion

[25:59] in April.

[26:03] Um then moving on to the next uh NLC

[26:07] congressional city summit just wrapped

[26:09] up in Washington DC. We were able to

[26:12] about 70 representatives from cities and

[26:15] towns across which was really great. Our

[26:18] branch uh Senator Curtis was great and

[26:20] organized another capital tour for the

[26:22] group which representatives Kennedy and

[26:24] Mallaloy joined. Um it was I would say a

[26:28] great conference overall. It's always

[26:29] nice after session to kind of have some

[26:32] time to connect with folks and learn

[26:34] about some things happening at the

[26:35] federal level. Um, I think one thing

[26:38] that happened this year that was

[26:39] particularly exciting was Mayor Klein of

[26:41] Saratoga Springs was able to testify um

[26:44] for the House Natural Resources about

[26:46] the bill that uh Congressman um Burgess

[26:49] Owens is running to transfer some

[26:51] federal land over uh to the post office

[26:54] so that they can

[26:57] really cool that the opportunity to do

[26:59] that. He was uh joined in the committee

[27:00] by Lee High Mountain. So that was really

[27:04] great. Otherwise, um I know Mayor

[27:06] Shepard is deeply involved with

[27:09] Philadelphia. I don't if there's

[27:10] anything else either of you would like

[27:12] to add.

[27:14] >> I appreciated experiencing a tornado

[27:16] warning.

[27:16] >> Yes, in DC which is

[27:20] being a native Utah, I'm unprepared for

[27:22] that kind of flash wildfires or

[27:25] earthquakes.

[27:27] >> So that was great. It was and wind

[27:29] storms. and wind storms. It's just not

[27:31] in a story pattern only down.

[27:36] >> Yeah, it was a it was a great time. Um I

[27:40] think one of the most impactful sessions

[27:41] I attended was included the police chief

[27:44] of Minneapolis and that was a a really

[27:47] impactful breakout session on

[27:51] immigration and local authority and um

[27:54] found his remarks to be really deeply

[27:55] impactful. Joyce F was our delegation as

[27:59] well. I don't know if you had any

[28:01] takeways from your leadership position

[28:02] on NLT.

[28:03] >> Yeah, I can see a whole lot of our

[28:04] delegation.

[28:05] >> I thought you would be

[28:08] disappointing not to be able to

[28:09] participate like I'd like to, but uh but

[28:11] a lot of good stuff. Yeah, I think as

[28:13] far as impact, Rand Paul's speech during

[28:17] general session was was fantastic. um

[28:20] NLC scheduled

[28:23] eight eight Democrat yeah see eight

[28:26] Republicans and seven Democrats to speak

[28:28] at at convention and had I mean that good of a response from Congress

[28:32] that they were able to bring in a

[28:34] bipartisan group to speak to everybody

[28:37] and only got you know little hesitation

[28:39] on one so that uh it was good we were

[28:43] they did reach out to

[28:45] um White House and were turned down from

[28:49] president, vice president come speak. So

[28:51] we uh [clears throat]

[28:53] so we did we make do with a with a whole

[28:55] bunch of representatives or congressman

[28:58] senators and it was good. It was a lot a

[29:01] lot lot of good came out of it. None of

[29:02] them really good conversations on uh

[29:06] immigration and I held a four and a half

[29:08] hour meeting with

[29:11] 15 mayors, 14 mayors in my with on

[29:15] immigration and the impacts of

[29:17] immigration and uh very great

[29:21] really really really

[29:23] came out of that.

[29:28] » Perfect. Thank you both. Yeah, it was it

[29:30] was a great time. Um, and we all made it

[29:32] through the the DC tornado of 2026.

[29:36] Um, in addition to that, uh, our next

[29:38] big event, we have midyear coming up

[29:40] April 22nd through 24th in St. George.

[29:43] Um, as Cam mentioned, and we'll chat

[29:45] more. We'll have a board meeting there

[29:46] with more of our strategic discussion as

[29:49] well as our typical programming. We're

[29:52] really excited to have Greg Jackson um,

[29:54] as our keynote. Um he has a great

[29:56] podcast history built by himself. Uh but

[29:59] he's a pretty engaging uh historian.

[30:01] He's actually WD. Um and so he's

[30:04] actually it's pretty fun. He's getting a

[30:05] lot of kind of national getting on the

[30:07] national circuit but he's one of our

[30:09] local guys. So it was local

[30:14] um anything.

[30:18] Um please register if you haven't

[30:20] already. We'd love to have a there.

[30:22] We'll be doing a half day training with

[30:24] DA on accomplish again um just before

[30:29] it kind of as I

[30:33] would love to attend we'd love to have

[30:35] them but hopefully you can all find

[30:38] another time to either practice your

[30:40] confidence or further training your

[30:42] confidence.

[30:43] Um and then in addition to that Cassie

[30:46] and I just wanted to tell you a little

[30:47] bit about our property tax outreach

[30:49] plan. So, as you all know, property tax

[30:51] was one of the big issues of the

[30:54] session. Um, and we in conversation with

[30:58] a lot of folks and kind of hearing some

[31:00] of the angst amongst legislators and the

[31:03] public kind of came to the conclusion

[31:06] that there's so much confusion about

[31:08] what property tax is and isn't and how

[31:10] it works. that really anything that the

[31:14] legislature does is unlikely to

[31:17] alleviate public frustration as long as

[31:19] the public does not understand how

[31:21] property tax works. And no one in that

[31:26] space um communicating that I think

[31:28] clearly for the the general public and

[31:30] so um we have entered into a contract

[31:34] with XFactor uh to to come into that

[31:37] space more

[31:39] mention in a moment. We're also working

[31:42] with the tax commission on our trainings

[31:45] to make sure that we have that updated

[31:46] checklist for all of our municipalities

[31:48] on how to grow through truth and

[31:49] taxation. And then we're also going

[31:51] through the final round of edits on the

[31:53] making sense of dollars over the hall

[31:56] that we um are publishing in support of

[31:59] the support from the Garner Policy

[32:01] Institute. Um and that will include a

[32:04] good chunk of time on property tax as

[32:07] well. So Cassidy with that can I hand it

[32:09] over to you

[32:11] about XFactor contract?

[32:12] >> Yes. So we're working with XFactor to

[32:14] complete 10 one minute to one and a half

[32:17] minute videos. These videos are going to

[32:20] be animated and on a variety of topics.

[32:22] Person can support that side if you have

[32:23] a handy to kind of show you the breadth

[32:26] of topics we're going to talk about. One

[32:27] thing I want to emphasize, this is not

[32:29] to replace anyone's efforts in

[32:31] communicating with their residents on

[32:33] what's happening should you choose to do

[32:34] a property tax increase. This is to

[32:36] support it, right? So, there are some

[32:38] things like you as a city or town can't

[32:40] control. That's the process, right? like

[32:42] you can't control the process, but you

[32:44] can talk about what you're doing and

[32:46] what services you're choosing to

[32:47] highlight and emphasize. So, as you look

[32:49] at this list, we have like what is

[32:50] property tax, who pays it, um why do I

[32:53] keep paying property taxes after I own

[32:55] my home, who collects property taxes, uh

[32:59] we're going to talk about assessed

[33:00] value. We're going to talk about how to

[33:01] read your property tax bill. We're also

[33:04] going to do a video about how you can

[33:05] get involved in the budgeting process. I

[33:07] think a lot of times you have residents

[33:08] who get their property tax bill and

[33:10] that's the first time they've heard of

[33:11] what's happening. Not all residents but

[33:13] a few. So just kind of talking about

[33:15] like how you can get involved in public

[33:16] hearings and similarly like sometimes

[33:19] it's really just an email if you're a

[33:20] council member, right? As you know, you

[33:22] have your public hearings but it's not

[33:23] really a forum for you to have a

[33:25] discussion with your residents, right?

[33:27] So that's kind of a few items we're

[33:29] working on. Um yeah, any questioning?

[33:34] >> I love this. I can't wait to share it.

[33:35] Those are gonna be really good.

[33:37] >> Yeah. So, we will be posting it on our

[33:39] uh website. So, feel free to take the

[33:42] videos, right? We're not going to have

[33:43] this really weird distribution process.

[33:45] We'll probably outline kind of like some

[33:47] ideas and a plan for you because

[33:48] obviously some of you have really

[33:50] sophisticated and lovely comms teams and

[33:52] others of you, you are the cons team.

[33:55] So, we're going to create a little bit

[33:57] of a guide on how to use these videos

[33:59] and how to help you and things along

[34:01] those lines. Um, are there any

[34:03] suggestions as to topics we may be

[34:05] missing on this list or any other grand

[34:08] words of wisdom for us to

[34:13] » the things that I often find residents

[34:15] just kind of can't get their their minds

[34:18] around is that their property, their home appreciates

[34:22] in value,

[34:24] >> but that cities aren't naturally

[34:26] capturing that. I understand that's

[34:27] probably your assessed value.

[34:30] that could be like its own series of 10

[34:34] one minute videos. That is that is the

[34:37] hangout. And residents often assume

[34:41] incorrectly that we're getting kind of

[34:43] this inflation built in. Um and and so

[34:47] that that one is a key one. And the

[34:49] other thing is new growth confuses them.

[34:53] If you're, you know, if you're in a city

[34:55] that has a lot [clears throat] of

[34:57] development,

[35:00] um, that that is a bigger factor than if

[35:03] you're in a Goldilock city.

[35:05] >> Goldilocks, that's what

[35:09] um,

[35:11] >> how then how that that plays out. Those

[35:14] are the the two areas that I find I

[35:17] spend the most time trying to explain

[35:19] >> when someone's upset.

[35:21] one observations.

[35:25] » How many Alexis, Roger?

[35:28] >> Three.

[35:30] [laughter]

[35:35] » A little more than two. What I do is I

[35:37] say this is the last

[35:40] camera talks

[35:43] but

[35:46] I actually probably was one of the

[35:48] architects vaccination because I think

[35:51] the reason we have system we survived

[35:54] what happened in California but I was

[35:57] going to say one of the things he's

[35:58] emphasizing

[36:00] property tax is the only tax is every

[36:03] state passes I mean it's the only It's

[36:06] the oldest tax everybody says it's

[36:07] adequate. It's the only one that's

[36:09] common every state. Now when I say

[36:11] common, some states may do it different.

[36:13] I would argue California on the outer

[36:15] fringes should be called approp. Every

[36:18] state has something to call

[36:20] and it you debate how much of it is

[36:23] local component and how much of it is

[36:26] mandated from the state and Utah has a

[36:29] component of that above

[36:31] and of which the largest single levy is

[36:34] actually a mandated levy by the state.

[36:36] So it's one of the things that I don't

[36:38] know how you interweave that discussion

[36:40] but you have that element of the state

[36:43] doesn't impose a property tax. The state

[36:46] just order school district to do certain

[36:48] things. [clears throat] Um and then the

[36:51] other is that uh

[36:56] in some ways become a self-fulfilling

[36:59] prophecy about property tax when people

[37:00] get upset about tax and they they barely

[37:03] understand. But in truth, I don't know

[37:06] if we're any worse than anywhere else.

[37:08] In fact, I would argue every year, and

[37:11] Kim will always tell me the legislators

[37:14] are saying this is the worst year

[37:16] they've ever seen it. And I tend to be

[37:18] somewhere on how many times I've heard

[37:21] that, but

[37:23] I think social media has changed the

[37:25] dimension of how how fast you can spread

[37:29] about something. I think that dimension

[37:31] has changed. But the truth of the matter

[37:33] is is for all the screening on we

[37:36] basically have the same basic structure

[37:38] just for 40 years.

[37:41] >> I think it'd be good to to bring out the 45% discount that we are and

[37:48] potentially compare that to states that

[37:49] don't have that. Um because we have this

[37:52] mentality from our residents that we are

[37:54] way overt taxed and how terrible this is

[37:56] and the property taxes are so high and

[37:58] yet every one of my clients that comes

[38:00] in from anywhere else says oh my gosh

[38:02] this is just amazing you know my

[38:04] property taxes how much and uh it's a

[38:08] [clears throat] pretty big shock for

[38:09] them realize it's that little

[38:12] >> perfect thank you and then another thing

[38:13] I do want to note is one thing to

[38:15] Roger's point about the news and social

[38:17] media one thing we want to emphasize is

[38:19] when you see a percentage age on a

[38:21] property tax increase by an entity that

[38:23] doesn't mean your whole building by 20%

[38:26] or 10% right it's a segment of your bill

[38:28] so that will be within that as well area

[38:31] where we see a lot of angst by residents

[38:34] >> and I looking at the comment from Mayor

[38:36] Bernone it looks like that's along the

[38:38] lines of what she's talking about um and

[38:41] her comment there where yes people

[38:44] greatly misunderstand if we are doing a

[38:46] 10% at the city level it's not 10% of

[38:49] the

[38:51] I am looking forward to what they come

[38:52] up with. And

[38:54] >> I applaud you.

[38:56] >> Well, president, I'll add one other

[38:58] piece here. The primary audience here is

[39:01] the general public and to help

[39:03] supplement what you are already doing is

[39:06] you're communicating with the with the

[39:08] general public, but the secondary

[39:09] audience is love and trying to in a user

[39:14] friendly way help them understand the

[39:16] property tax system as you. So, if you

[39:19] have other thoughts of what else we

[39:21] should emphasize, let us know. We've

[39:22] contracted to do 10 videos. This was our

[39:26] first crack at what those topics are. We

[39:28] wanted to basically check in with the

[39:30] board today. The goal to have these

[39:31] ready this budget cycle so that you guys

[39:34] can use them if you're going to go

[39:36] through the taxation this year. So, time

[39:38] is time is ticking to make sure we can

[39:40] get them done, right?

[39:42] >> Yes. [clears throat] And then another

[39:43] thing that's worth mentioning, we will

[39:45] be having some supplemental handouts as

[39:47] well because I know we have some of our

[39:49] really, really small communities that

[39:51] probably don't use social media as their

[39:53] main way to distribute information. And

[39:55] one of those handouts, we're hoping to

[39:57] make it easy to compare with your

[39:58] property tax bill. So you can put this

[40:00] hand out next to your property tax bill

[40:02] and it'll help you read through your

[40:03] property tax bill. So we're hoping to

[40:05] have those ready by mid year as well so

[40:08] they can be distributed.

[40:10] Thank you, Mayor Burton and Mayor Bruno

[40:12] and Council Densson for your for your

[40:14] comments and and Mayor Burton. Cassie

[40:17] said this earlier. I just want to

[40:19] emphasize that we know a lot of your

[40:21] teams do great communications in this

[40:23] space. We gathered a lot of them as

[40:24] examples, but if there are individuals

[40:27] in your cities that you wanted to

[40:28] connect with us, please do so and we can

[40:32] make sure we're all coordinated as much

[40:34] as possible.

[40:40] That's everything we have for India.

[40:43] Okay,

[40:44] that case there's no other questions or

[40:47] comments. Then we can move on to our

[40:48] advocacy report by Cameron and Jonathan.

[40:52] >> Perfect. I mentioned the board

[40:54] objectives that you as a board have

[40:57] adopted

[41:00] discrimination,

[41:06] advocacy and operations all have

[41:08] different board objectives that you can

[41:10] approve. So all you need to talk through

[41:12] those three engagement and I'll turn it

[41:14] over here to Justin to reference the two

[41:17] objectives and then even though I

[41:19] mentioned at the beginning meeting today

[41:21] is to set the stage for the inter we

[41:22] also want to take a moment

[41:24] >> today and take a look back. So go ahead

[41:26] Justin.

[41:26] >> So yeah our objectives here we uh talked

[41:28] about these uh develop an a policy class

[41:30] of priorities that focus on

[41:32] collaborative outcomes and respect for

[41:34] the role of municipalities.

[41:36] um that say otherwise partnership not

[41:38] option and and that's that really has

[41:41] resonated um the last couple of years

[41:43] and this year um it's one of the

[41:45] takeaways a little bit lower but we

[41:47] really did see fewer bills ultimately

[41:50] targeted at cities we tracked fewer

[41:52] bills this year than we tracked last

[41:54] year and some of that um Mike and Alexa

[41:57] both deserve a ton of credit because

[42:00] they read through all of the bills to

[42:02] see whether or not we should be tracking

[42:03] them and whether or not they matter and

[42:05] So, um, they were very good at at kind

[42:07] of filtering things out, but there were

[42:09] ultimately also just fewer bills that

[42:10] impacted cities. Um, we were not the

[42:13] target this year, and that's not a bad

[42:15] thing at all. And then maximizing

[42:17] political capital at the capital. Um,

[42:19] this is such a real thing. Um, we we

[42:21] always talk aboutly, but there really

[42:23] is, you know, I don't know how to track

[42:25] it correctly. sort of just sense it. But

[42:28] there there is an amount of capital we

[42:30] have, an amount of asks we have, an

[42:32] amount of things we can really shoot at

[42:33] before, you know, they they stop

[42:35] listening. And um last year at the end

[42:39] of the session, um we had no capital,

[42:42] particularly in one of the bodies that

[42:44] we had nothing left in the Senate last

[42:46] year. Uh this year, I would say we ended

[42:48] the session with capital up to spend. Um

[42:51] uh this year was good from that

[42:52] perspective. Um, so, uh, one, if you

[42:56] didn't participate in the LPC wrapup,

[42:58] um, if you want to go back and watch the

[42:59] hour and a half video, but it it was

[43:01] fascinating to go through every single

[43:03] bill that we talked about in LPC and we

[43:05] kind of gave the final disposition about

[43:07] what failed and what passed. Um, so just

[43:10] quick quiz, anybody know

[43:11] percentage-wise, how many bills that we

[43:14] tracked failed this year?

[43:19] high percent.

[43:24] » Not that high.

[43:25] >> That would have been awesome.

[43:26] >> Uh it was about 53%.

[43:29] So of everything that we tracked this

[43:30] year, more failed than passed and I

[43:33] don't know that we've had that in the

[43:34] last few years. So that was also kind of

[43:36] fascinating. Um we had and we're we want

[43:38] to talk about this one of our discussion

[43:39] questions but we had record

[43:41] participation um as far as what online

[43:44] and inerson LBC just huge numbers of of

[43:47] those participating online um as well as

[43:49] the room we all know the rooms already

[43:51] packed but the number online was even more this year and Cassie I

[43:55] want to make sure I get this right we

[43:57] had more individuals opening emails

[43:59] [clears throat]

[44:00] even though our open rate was down

[44:02] >> yeah so we had about on average

[44:07] 400 to 500 more opens a night compared

[44:11] to last year.

[44:12] >> So again, 400 more opens a night. So a

[44:15] lot of people getting one of the uh one

[44:17] of the interesting things we also found

[44:19] out during this is the session we did

[44:21] those kind of LPC recap videos or

[44:23] midweek videos um that we try to do in

[44:26] three minutes or under and we never

[44:27] quite hit. But um we've had a legisle

[44:30] from watching those videos. Um I start I

[44:33] had some legislators at the end of the

[44:34] session. I called and said, "Oh yeah, I

[44:36] watch your videos, you know, during the

[44:37] week so I know what's going on." And

[44:41] so that was fascinating that some

[44:42] legislators are watching our videos. So

[44:44] you get the update of what's going on

[44:46] with something. So um that was

[44:48] fascinating. Um affordability was a huge

[44:51] component of what was talked about this

[44:53] year from child care to energy to fuel

[44:56] taxes obviously to property tax and

[44:57] everything else. a big component of what

[44:59] they talked about this year and we knew

[45:01] that going into the session that really

[45:03] stayed true throughout the session. And

[45:05] then it's an election year and and it's

[45:08] always fascinating to see what bills

[45:10] pass or are presented during an election

[45:12] year and what goes down. Um and the

[45:14] important thing to remember is next year

[45:16] is not an election year. So I won't

[45:20] predict that all these trends are going

[45:21] to hold true next year that maybe held

[45:23] true this year. Um so what didn't

[45:26] happen? There was a lot of things that

[45:27] didn't pass and water is one of the big

[45:29] ones. Um, do we have the clip from the

[45:31] governor's news conference on that one?

[45:34] Or if not, that's all right. We'll run

[45:36] the phone.

[45:37] >> That's okay. Um, the governor mentioned

[45:40] this last week in his monthly news

[45:41] conference when someone asked him what

[45:43] is the water year going to look like

[45:44] this year. Um, and he said not great is

[45:48] basically takeaway. Um, the soil is

[45:50] fairly saturated saturated right now

[45:52] which is good. It means water that does

[45:54] run off should go to the reservoirs. Um

[45:57] it won't seep into the ground because

[45:58] we've actually had a very wet wet last

[46:01] couple of months, but the snow pack is

[46:03] bad, which means water year is going to

[46:06] be a little bit rough. We had like one

[46:08] good year there, but we're going to be

[46:09] back to where we were a couple of years

[46:10] ago. Um and so the question was, are we

[46:14] going to have d drought declarations?

[46:15] Are we going to have emergency

[46:16] declarations? Are we going to have

[46:18] things like that? And the answer is

[46:19] probably yes. at some point during the

[46:21] year um we will have some declarations

[46:24] and that will meet uh potential

[46:25] mandatory cutbacks on certain things. Uh

[46:28] so one of the things that we're planning

[46:29] on doing um well let me back up. So what

[46:32] didn't happen with water like very few

[46:35] water bills passed this last session um

[46:38] if you look at the water section in that

[46:40] wrap up everything from 501 which is the

[46:42] fee increase on down to some of the

[46:44] conser everything failed. Water stuff

[46:46] just failed all over the place. Um but

[46:49] it's something that we're going to need

[46:51] to talk about particularly this year and

[46:53] looking forward. So um we we thought it

[46:56] was very successful that our last

[46:58] caucuses at at our conference when we

[47:00] just talked about the state housing

[47:01] plan. Uh we had Laura Hansen there

[47:04] talking about the state housing plan.

[47:05] Every caucus we went through that and

[47:07] got really good feedback. Um we thought

[47:09] that was really a good way of handling

[47:11] caucuses. Uh so our plan for the midyear

[47:14] caucus is to have uh Brian Seid Grace

[47:17] all the commissioner and then the USU

[47:19] Institute of Land Water and Error uh

[47:21] come

[47:23] >> the Lorax

[47:24] >> and the Lorax of the lake

[47:27] third one um we're planning to have them

[47:30] at each of the caucuses to talk through

[47:33] what water looks like uh coming forward

[47:36] uh going forward this year where we're

[47:38] really at as a state with water. Uh when

[47:40] Brian came to our LPC, we had more

[47:43] questions for Brian than we had for the Senate President, the Speaker of the

[47:46] House, or Senator Curtis. People had a

[47:48] lot of questions for Brian. And so our

[47:50] plan for caucuses is to break up and

[47:53] talk about water. Uh one of the things

[47:54] we're trying to figure out is exactly

[47:55] how we break those caucuses up. Um

[47:58] because southern Utah very different

[48:00] than than northern Utah, Great Salt Lake

[48:02] is very different than the Virgin River

[48:04] as far as the water needs and what's

[48:05] going on there. So caucuses may look a

[48:07] little bit different as far as how we

[48:08] break those up. Um Goldilock conference,

[48:11] I don't know who has who has just the

[48:13] right amount of water. I don't know who

[48:14] that that caucus is, but um there's

[48:18] definitely I don't know if anyone has

[48:19] too much.

[48:20] >> I don't know that anyone in the state

[48:21] has just the right

[48:22] >> it's just a little too more than a

[48:25] little too. But so that is our plan for caucuses is to to bring Brian and

[48:29] his team. they've already committed to

[48:30] do this and we're going to talk about

[48:32] water and be able to have some really um

[48:35] both specific and very blunt

[48:36] conversations about what water looks

[48:38] like and people be able to ask and

[48:40] answer questions there. Um so any

[48:43] questions about that one? That's that's

[48:44] going to be a thing we're going to need

[48:45] to talk about. Water is going to be a

[48:47] big deal this year. Um and it's going

[48:49] Yeah, mayor please. the combination of

[48:52] additional pressure for growth and

[48:54] building more houses and the increasing

[48:56] lack of water. Is that going to be

[48:58] combined?

[48:59] >> That is one of the things Brian Yeah,

[49:00] happy to talk about. Yeah, I've talked

[49:02] about that with him before. We we

[49:04] actually the mayor last week we went to

[49:07] a stage two which is volunteer for

[49:09] everybody but 10% from all state

[49:11] governments in in so

[49:14] state local federal governments in Salt

[49:16] Lake City 10% reduction in their water

[49:19] use but volunteer everybody else that

[49:21] was mayor

[49:24] and was released last week. Justin, I

[49:26] think you're probably already aware of

[49:28] this that there's going to be certain

[49:30] communities that are going to want to

[49:31] have conversations about reuse and

[49:34] aquafer recharge.

[49:35] >> Yes.

[49:36] >> Um, and some of those are,

[49:38] you know, there's definitely a northern

[49:40] Utah County group and there's

[49:41] [clears throat] another Davis County

[49:42] group that have

[49:44] >> concerns with those areas.

[49:46] >> Yep. So, I don't know if there's a way

[49:47] to if you're reimagining different

[49:50] groups, caucuses.

[49:52] Well, and that's that's yeah, that is a

[49:54] good because we've been trying to figure

[49:55] this out because one, we talked about

[49:56] doing by watershed, but you bring up my

[49:58] subject. Um, I think I think it would be

[50:01] wild to not do something where southern

[50:03] Utah has its own thing because they're

[50:06] just such a different beast, especially

[50:07] with water. But yeah, having having a

[50:09] reef use aquifer or something like that.

[50:11] Um, so if anyone has thoughts about

[50:13] that, just different ways of breaking

[50:15] that out by congressional district by

[50:18] congressional district whatever those

[50:19] are. I don't know what those are going

[50:21] to be. Let's let's use slido and draw

[50:24] our own map. [laughter]

[50:31] » Okay. I I resend my question. Um

[50:33] [laughter]

[50:35] >> still the end of legislature just

[50:39] >> going back to end of legislator. So we

[50:40] do get some feedback. So one thing

[50:42] another thing that didn't happen um we

[50:45] didn't get the bill that we thought we

[50:46] might get um on amendment D. It's not

[50:48] amendment D but that's our short at this

[50:50] point. This is the bill that would be um

[50:53] shoring up um initiative and referendum

[50:56] power. The ability to make changes if

[50:59] something is passed by initiative um

[51:02] potentially referendum depending what

[51:03] they want to do but by initiative. This

[51:04] is one where we saw special session a

[51:06] year and a half ago where they um passed

[51:09] what would ultimately become amendment D

[51:11] and then the court shot this down. So if

[51:13] you remember we had a lot of discussions

[51:14] as as both a board uh we talked about

[51:17] this at our uh annual conference. We had

[51:20] a webinar on this, but we get put in a

[51:22] very interesting political spot when

[51:25] something is a ballot proposition

[51:27] because we cannot expend any public

[51:29] funds for a political purpose and

[51:31] political purpose is anything that's on

[51:33] the ballot. So, we had a lot of pressure

[51:35] from legislative leadership asking us to

[51:38] weigh in to take positions um on

[51:40] amendment D and we were all say because

[51:42] of a we can't do that. Uh 2011 1203 uh

[51:46] we can't weigh in, we can't do that. We

[51:48] expect there to be pressure again um

[51:51] when something comes out. It didn't come

[51:52] out during session. Um we expect it to

[51:55] come out at some point during a special

[51:57] session. President Adams has said

[51:58] specifically this is something we expect

[52:00] to see. So this is one that didn't come

[52:02] out during session. We expect to come up

[52:03] during the interim and when it does,

[52:05] we'll have to have some discussions

[52:06] around um what that looks like

[52:09] politically. Um how we take a position

[52:11] because we can take a position on a

[52:13] bill. We just can't take a position once

[52:16] it's a ballot proposition. So, um, this

[52:19] is something we'll have to deal with.

[52:20] We've been kind of teasing this for the

[52:21] last year and a half. Um,

[52:24] it'll probably come this intro though.

[52:26] So, Justin, one one last thing to add to

[52:28] this. When Justin was saying we, he's

[52:30] referencing the league, but you as

[52:33] individual elected officials

[52:35] >> can take a position for against a ballot

[52:37] proposition.

[52:42] » That's right. So [clears throat] the

[52:44] league may say here's here are the

[52:47] reasons for and against the belt

[52:48] proposition but we're not taking a

[52:49] position on it. We can take a position

[52:51] on the bill that facilitates it

[52:54] >> and then once it become once it goes on

[52:55] the ballot then mayor Palmer as Lauren

[52:59] Palmer as mayor of Herman you personally

[53:02] can take a position and you should

[53:04] expect those phone calls from

[53:06] legislators

[53:08] Mark Shepard mayor of Clearfield.

[53:10] you should expect those phone calls from

[53:12] legislators asking you to weigh in. So,

[53:15] nothing to debate right now, but just

[53:17] situational awareness as we're setting

[53:19] the stage for them.

[53:20] >> Yep. And then we do want to get some

[53:22] feedback on a few a few questions here

[53:24] and um I know we've got Tyler coming a

[53:26] few minutes. So, um but before that, uh

[53:30] Carson, I know we've got some slides

[53:31] that we do want to share. Um I'll kick

[53:34] it to you and then we'll get to these

[53:35] questions.

[53:36] >> Thank you. And this will be a Cassidy

[53:38] and I and we wanted just briefly just to

[53:40] mention some of the the member

[53:41] engagement that we had through LPC

[53:43] through the session. We just wanted to

[53:45] kind of a high level demonstrate what

[53:46] that actually looks like, how we're

[53:48] trying to break down the data a little

[53:49] bit more granularly to be able to um see

[53:52] how we can boost more LPC engagement and

[53:55] how we can um better use the

[53:58] communication tools that we have to

[53:59] inform members and and help them engage.

[54:02] So, Cassidy, I'll turn it over to you

[54:04] for the first couple of these.

[54:06] >> Yeah, we'll go really fast. So, um, open

[54:09] rate, we go one more, Carson.

[54:12] >> Yeah.

[54:12] >> Oh, just kidding. Go back. I lied. 49%.

[54:15] This is like 3% lower than last year,

[54:17] except as Justin mentioned earlier, we

[54:19] have a lot more people opening our

[54:21] nightly emails. So, we have really

[54:23] enjoyed seeing those numbers stay

[54:24] stable. I was really nervous last year

[54:26] because we had a lot of double emails in

[54:28] our account as everyone was switching

[54:29] from.org.com

[54:31] to.gov. up. I deleted a lot of those and

[54:33] we still have a great open rate. So,

[54:35] thank you for opening our email. Our

[54:37] next slide will kind of show you how

[54:39] many people are opening individual

[54:42] numbers of emails. So, we sent about 30

[54:45] emails um over legislative session. So,

[54:48] we have a lot of people who may not be

[54:49] opening any even though I give them an

[54:51] option to opt out every year. They

[54:53] don't. And then we have quite a big

[54:55] chunk of people opening every single

[54:57] email. Um, you may be wondering, do LPC

[55:01] voting members open more emails than our

[55:03] general population?

[55:06] They do not. The trend is actually very

[55:07] similar. So, LPC membership is actually

[55:10] really reflective of the rest of our

[55:11] membership in terms of like technical

[55:14] involvement within what we do, which I

[55:16] thought was really interesting. All

[55:17] right, Carson, you can keep going. Do

[55:19] you think Oh, if you get the LPC members

[55:21] mind because they were there for the

[55:23] updates in LPC.

[55:26] So, one thing I noticed, and we're going

[55:27] to talk about this in a second, is

[55:29] Justin's recap video of LPC had a lot

[55:32] less views than last year, but this year

[55:34] I really worked hard to get LPC on our

[55:37] nightly email. So then people could go

[55:39] back to the actual LPC meeting to find

[55:41] something they may have missed or zoned

[55:42] out for versus just hearing the from

[55:45] Justin. Um,

[55:48] if Carson, you go to the next side, I

[55:50] also did this big long chart dividing it

[55:52] out by what open rates look like for by

[55:54] city or town. So, we have a collection

[55:57] of emails for each city or town. So, for

[55:59] some of our cities and towns, that's

[56:01] just the elected officials. For others,

[56:02] it's like I might have their water guy

[56:04] on there. I might have their events

[56:07] person on there and just kind of like

[56:08] how many emails are opening. So, this is

[56:10] kind of the top range of the list. And

[56:12] if you look at the line, that's like the

[56:14] 50% of the data. And that means 50% are

[56:17] opening less than that line or 50% of

[56:19] the number of we have are opening more.

[56:22] So we have all these different bars of

[56:24] kind of like the range and obviously

[56:25] their sample size also kind of impacts

[56:27] that. Um something I will note is we do

[56:30] have a collection of cities that have an

[56:31] o midline like their average is opening

[56:33] less than in this case 15 emails. So

[56:36] we're averaging about 10. However, as

[56:39] long as I see an outlier or the bar

[56:41] extend to the full 30, I'm not worried.

[56:44] Right? So, for example, in

[56:45] Taylor'sville, I know John Histy is

[56:47] gonna open every single email.

[56:49] >> That's true.

[56:50] >> He told me that he does this. He opens

[56:51] every single email and then he copy

[56:53] sections that might affect other members

[56:55] of his staff and sends them that to get

[56:57] feedback. So, if I'm seeing that in some

[56:59] of our smaller cities or towns, I feel

[57:02] pretty good about what our cities and

[57:03] towns are receiving. So, something Molly

[57:05] and I will be doing is we're going to go

[57:06] through this list and kind of see cities

[57:08] or towns that may be struggling with

[57:10] participating with us during the

[57:11] legislative session and do some

[57:13] additional outreach there. And I know

[57:14] you all want to know where your cities

[57:16] are. We can talk about that.

[57:16] >> Yes, I try to zoom in.

[57:19] >> I know it's small on purpose just so you

[57:20] can kind of get like an overview.

[57:24] Now, I'm zooming in. Okay.

[57:26] >> All right. You move on to the next

[57:27] slide. We also saw an increase in our

[57:30] open rates in the Senate and the House

[57:32] when we send them emails saying, "Hey,

[57:34] vote yes or vote no on this bill, which

[57:36] I was actually very surprised by in the

[57:38] Senate because we haven't seen a lot of

[57:39] turnover in the Senate." So, back to

[57:41] Justin's point about our political

[57:43] capital.

[57:44] >> You kind of see that increased videos.

[57:46] We can go ahead and skip through this.

[57:47] is kind of like our recap and stuff

[57:49] like that. We tend to get a lot of views

[57:51] on social media, but we also get a solid

[57:53] like 40 views on each video that we do,

[57:56] which typically is one of us testifying

[57:58] in committee or one of you guys

[57:59] testifying in committee. Our traffic was

[58:01] up a little bit. You'll see big jumps on

[58:03] Mondays. I think a lot of that is from

[58:05] LPC on Monday and bill tracker.

[58:08] >> Uh, keep going

[58:10] LPC. So, we have a lot of stats on

[58:13] what's happening via Zoom during our

[58:15] LPCs. So what this chart is showing you

[58:17] is the duration of the meeting and how

[58:20] many people are on the meeting.

[58:22] >> Sorry, did you do also by how long the

[58:23] meeting is supposed to last

[58:27] we kept on track. We actually like

[58:29] finished on time and then after that

[58:31] >> Yeah,

[58:32] >> you can see where we end the meeting,

[58:33] but you could see the slow drop off as

[58:35] people are like, "All right, I'm out of

[58:37] this meeting." But I honestly thought

[58:38] the line would be sharper.

[58:39] >> Yeah. And this is important. We thought

[58:41] we were going to lose more people. We

[58:42] thought the drop off would be harder

[58:43] when we were supposed to end. And It's

[58:46] not that hard.

[58:47] >> It's a train wreck. You cannot look

[58:49] away. [laughter]

[58:52] » Seth said is a train wreck. Got it.

[58:56] >> And obviously like we only have a

[58:59] lot of questions.

[59:01] >> But it was very interesting to see kind

[59:03] of like how this is trending online,

[59:04] especially when we're having more people

[59:06] attending online than we are in the

[59:08] room. Um,

[59:10] >> looks like we have a question from Mayor

[59:12] Bill Wright.

[59:19] I was on mute. Sorry. I I going back

[59:21] [clears throat] to that opening uh the rate. I did not see at Pac City on

[59:27] there. Maybe I missed it, but I just was

[59:29] wondering why we were not on there if uh

[59:32] >> we're not.

[59:33] >> So, Mayor, we have over what 27

[59:37] communities. They'll have sample

[59:41] the number for you and I will send it to

[59:42] you after this meeting.

[59:43] >> Okay, that's fine. I just would I was

[59:45] just just was checking.

[59:47] >> Yeah, it's not comprehensive. Just a

[59:48] sample. Okay, wonderful.

[59:50] >> I tried to put it on a print out and it

[59:52] wouldn't even fit on a tablet size page.

[59:54] So, I want

[59:55] >> your inner cass saying this is too much.

[59:58] >> Yes,

[59:59] >> it's too much.

[1:00:00] >> She can't get after us if she does.

[1:00:03] >> Standard example.

[1:00:05] >> Okay. I think this is the point you're

[1:00:06] making. Sorry.

[1:00:08] I think this is the point you're making.

[1:00:10] That's an incredible stick to it.

[1:00:14] >> Yeah,

[1:00:14] >> I think I think that speaks.

[1:00:16] >> It didn't matter how long we went,

[1:00:17] people suffer.

[1:00:19] >> We should validate what we should have.

[1:00:22] >> We should not take advantage of that.

[1:00:24] is what I'm trying to tell you.

[1:00:26] >> And then our next slide kind of shows

[1:00:28] like how many people are repeat

[1:00:29] attendees. So if for the beauties they

[1:00:31] signed up, how many attended six? And

[1:00:33] you'll see how the number of have I

[1:00:35] Okay, let me rephrase that and think of

[1:00:37] all my thoughts here. I wondered if you

[1:00:40] went to less meetings if you spent less

[1:00:42] time in the meetings overall. Right? So,

[1:00:44] what this chart is showing you is how

[1:00:45] many people

[1:00:47] who were on Zoom attended all six and

[1:00:50] for what amount of time they were on

[1:00:52] there. So, we kind of see a little bit

[1:00:54] more variation in that. And you'll see

[1:00:55] there's quite a few zeros at the bottom.

[1:00:57] I think that's our hybrid attendees. So

[1:00:59] some of you may sign up for the meeting

[1:01:01] just to get it on your calendar and then

[1:01:03] you attend in person, right? So like I

[1:01:05] would count as one of those points at

[1:01:06] the zero minute line because I don't

[1:01:08] sign in with my Zoom like now I sign up

[1:01:10] with questions. So we're kind of seeing

[1:01:13] like a lot of people they commit and

[1:01:15] come to some portion of all six meetings

[1:01:18] and then you can move to the next slide.

[1:01:20] This is where our online attendees live.

[1:01:24] And I think this is important because

[1:01:25] LPC online is not just for people who

[1:01:28] are outside of the shed of maybe what

[1:01:29] would be acceptable to come to the

[1:01:31] capital, right? It's everyone in every

[1:01:33] city.

[1:01:35] And then I think the next one, Carson,

[1:01:37] is you.

[1:01:38] >> Yeah. And I'll be quick on this. We

[1:01:40] wanted to do a quick sort of follow-up

[1:01:41] survey that we launched last week, two

[1:01:43] weeks ago. Um, and the purpose of that

[1:01:46] was to try to just get more just direct

[1:01:48] feedback from members who participated

[1:01:50] in LPC and just try to get their

[1:01:53] thoughts on sort of just LPC logistics

[1:01:55] and we wanted to know how how effective

[1:01:58] they felt the meetings were. So, first

[1:02:00] we asked how many meetings do people

[1:02:01] attend

[1:02:03] and of the respondents um all of them

[1:02:07] attended at least five if and a majority

[1:02:09] of them attended seven. So, really

[1:02:11] impressed by that. I know it's a lot of

[1:02:13] time to take after this week, but I

[1:02:15] think that shows how dedicated people

[1:02:16] were to participating. Um, we have we

[1:02:20] wanted to know has a lot of great

[1:02:22] analytics for how many people attend. We

[1:02:24] wanted to get a sense of how many people

[1:02:26] attend in person online. We haven't done

[1:02:29] any uh any real robust analysis on this

[1:02:32] data yet, but kind of at face value. And

[1:02:35] I do think it's interesting that a lot

[1:02:36] of most people were online or in person

[1:02:39] primarily. they didn't really only a

[1:02:41] handful of people said that they kind of

[1:02:42] mixed it up and did either one. Um, so I

[1:02:45] thought that was kind of interesting

[1:02:46] where people have a kind of a clear

[1:02:48] preference in how they wanted to

[1:02:49] participate.

[1:02:51] >> Going back to that, I mean twothirds are

[1:02:53] primarily online, which is going to get

[1:02:56] to our third discussion question here in

[1:02:57] a second, but that's changing over the

[1:03:00] years.

[1:03:00] >> Yeah. Yep. Um, we wanted to know how

[1:03:03] often people reached out to legislators.

[1:03:04] And I think the good news is that um,

[1:03:07] most people were reaching out pretty

[1:03:08] regularly, at least five times. Um, only

[1:03:11] two people said that they responded

[1:03:13] every day. Um, I'm guessing some of

[1:03:15] those are in this room,

[1:03:17] but most people were at least five

[1:03:20] times. Many people were every meeting.

[1:03:23] Um, only a handful handful of people

[1:03:25] said that they never reached out to

[1:03:27] their legislators. I want to bring that

[1:03:28] out about between um voting members and

[1:03:31] non- voting members because we have a

[1:03:32] fair amount of people who participate in

[1:03:34] LPC and um maybe their staff and they're

[1:03:38] not really maybe a senior level where

[1:03:40] they feel comfortable reaching out on

[1:03:41] behalf of the city uh but they just

[1:03:43] wanted to be informed and involved. Um

[1:03:45] what I think is really interesting is

[1:03:46] that non- voting members they're much

[1:03:48] more likely to reach out to legislators

[1:03:50] more frequently than non- voting

[1:03:52] members. So I think that um that kind of

[1:03:55] speaks to the ownership that voting and

[1:03:58] participating in that way uh gives gives

[1:04:00] our LPC members. So um

[1:04:03] >> so correct. So it's interesting. So LPC

[1:04:07] voting members or nonLPC members aren't

[1:04:09] necessarily opening emails at a greater

[1:04:10] rates but the LPC members are reaching

[1:04:13] out to legislators at greater rate and

[1:04:14] that is interesting.

[1:04:15] >> Yeah.

[1:04:17] Um, and then we wanted to know how

[1:04:19] people whether people felt like the

[1:04:21] meetings were engaging. And we didn't

[1:04:22] have a lot of definition here. We just

[1:04:24] wanted to see what people's general

[1:04:26] assignment was. And we know that the

[1:04:28] meetings were long. We know that there's

[1:04:29] a lot of information covered. And I

[1:04:31] think as staff, our eyes are kind of

[1:04:32] glazed over

[1:04:34] the presenting. But um I think it's

[1:04:37] really positive that everybody said that

[1:04:39] they strongly

[1:04:41] that the meetings during the session

[1:04:43] were engaging and um so we'll keep kind

[1:04:46] of digging into the data a little bit

[1:04:47] more try to explore that but I think

[1:04:48] this um is really a positive data point

[1:04:51] for us shows that the time is worthwhile

[1:04:53] for members. Uh Carson, on that survey

[1:04:55] question, we had the ability to say

[1:04:57] disagree, right?

[1:04:59] >> Nobody did. Yeah. I want to make sure we

[1:05:01] didn't like fake that.

[1:05:04] >> You have to be informed.

[1:05:07] [clears throat]

[1:05:07] >> The last one I want to mention is that

[1:05:10] um we asked whether people felt more

[1:05:12] informed or less informed because again,

[1:05:13] I know that like coming out of a

[1:05:15] two-hour long tense meeting sometimes

[1:05:17] you're just like overwhelmed. Um but I

[1:05:20] think yeah again this majority of people

[1:05:23] 99% said that they felt more informed

[1:05:25] after uh or better informed about what

[1:05:28] was happening at the capital after LPC

[1:05:30] meetings. So um glad to see that and

[1:05:32] again people could chose to disagree but

[1:05:35] um nobody did. So yeah, we'll keep kind

[1:05:38] of diving into this data and trying to

[1:05:40] pick out some more trends, try to pick

[1:05:42] out some more recommendations going

[1:05:43] forward about ways to make LPC more

[1:05:45] meaningful, more actionable and give

[1:05:47] members feel like they have a stronger

[1:05:49] voice in the process. Um, but I think

[1:05:52] the kind of the initial results are

[1:05:54] really positive and there's been

[1:05:56] realities of the session that we just

[1:05:58] can't really like there were just so

[1:05:59] many bills to talk about. There's not a

[1:06:02] lot we could do with the panel, but I

[1:06:04] think overall we feel pretty good about

[1:06:06] the initial takeways and feeling session

[1:06:09] was a success. So, are there any quick

[1:06:11] questions about that before we jump into

[1:06:13] the discussion items?

[1:06:17] » Okay, perfect. So, we get we've thrown a

[1:06:19] lot of stuff at you there, which is what

[1:06:21] we always do. um but do want some

[1:06:23] discussion back and I'm going to take

[1:06:24] these questions in reverse order based

[1:06:26] on what we just talked about but a

[1:06:28] majority of our LPC attendees are

[1:06:30] attending online at this point um and

[1:06:32] this is true during the interim um I

[1:06:34] believe as well as during the session um

[1:06:37] are there things that we can do to make

[1:06:39] sure everyone is getting the best

[1:06:40] experience regardless

[1:06:43] is there anything we should be changing

[1:06:45] up for anyone that was online or there

[1:06:47] things that we could do differently um

[1:06:49] given there are some parameters about

[1:06:51] how cameras working in the room and

[1:06:52] different things that we don't have a

[1:06:54] ton of control over. But are there

[1:06:56] things that we could we could change up

[1:06:57] or or emphasize differently uh given the

[1:07:01] amount of people that are online?

[1:07:04] >> I'd be curious to hear from some of our

[1:07:06] board members that are attending online

[1:07:08] [clears throat]

[1:07:10] that kind of routinely attend online

[1:07:13] because they're drive away.

[1:07:19] While you're waiting further comment, I

[1:07:21] I'll just say the one of the things that

[1:07:23] was really helpful was wherever the mics

[1:07:26] were placed,

[1:07:29] I was able to hear online and and that's

[1:07:32] usually problem with online Zooms,

[1:07:35] especially if you have different people

[1:07:37] participating or um people were

[1:07:40] repeating the questions that were that

[1:07:42] may have been asked. So, so that those

[1:07:44] who were on Zoom could hear what the

[1:07:46] issue was.

[1:07:49] I saw Council Member Hinch.

[1:07:54] » Oh, kind of along the lines of what she

[1:07:57] just said. It's good to have those

[1:07:58] questions repeated online. Um, in the

[1:08:01] room we could see the screen with the

[1:08:03] chat,

[1:08:05] but sometimes that chat was going so

[1:08:07] fast we couldn't follow that

[1:08:08] conversation, I guess, um, in person.

[1:08:12] And so I I do appreciate that Cassidy

[1:08:14] and Carson would, you know, help us fill

[1:08:16] in the blanks with those questions, but

[1:08:17] sometimes we wanted to see that text to

[1:08:19] those chats and I don't know if there's

[1:08:20] a way to fix that.

[1:08:22] [clears throat]

[1:08:29] » Um, that's a good question. Um, and I

[1:08:32] know because I know Carson and Cassie,

[1:08:33] you guys watch that more closely. Um,

[1:08:37] I think some of it, well, you guys tell

[1:08:40] me if I'm wrong. I think some of it is people because it's in

[1:08:43] chat um they can pile on very quickly

[1:08:45] with comments just like a ditto or an I

[1:08:48] or a um so I don't know that you

[1:08:50] necessarily want to see all of it but I

[1:08:52] don't know if there's a way to filter

[1:08:53] some of that differently.

[1:08:55] >> Yeah, I think we we use the chat in a

[1:08:57] couple different ways. Number one,

[1:08:59] that's how online participants can take

[1:09:01] votes. Um, number two, I think we want

[1:09:05] people to be able to submit feedback and

[1:09:06] there's so many comments, especially uh,

[1:09:09] as we kind of get later in the session

[1:09:11] that it's kind of hard to bring us to

[1:09:13] parse through in the meeting. you may

[1:09:14] have to go back and it's super helpful

[1:09:16] because there's a lot of information

[1:09:17] that we go back and garments usually.

[1:09:21] Um, yeah, I think uh and maybe it's just

[1:09:25] a encouraging people to

[1:09:28] try to cut down on some of the snarky

[1:09:29] comments that up a fair amount of the comments overall. Um, and maybe I

[1:09:34] think I think one thing that we've

[1:09:36] discussed is trying to figure out how

[1:09:37] toize things like voting. So there's

[1:09:38] like a specific approach for leading

[1:09:41] feedback. there's a specific approach

[1:09:43] for like like if we have some of the

[1:09:46] target information we were requesting on

[1:09:48] taxes Alexa was the point person um some

[1:09:51] of the other like

[1:09:53] technical feedback on 284 J person so

[1:09:57] that might be another way we kind of

[1:09:58] look at it is say um for specific

[1:10:01] feedback on these items rather than just

[1:10:03] drop in the chat just shoot an email

[1:10:04] we'll drop it in the link and um that

[1:10:07] way we can make sure it kind of rises

[1:10:08] into the top right boxes but yeah I'm

[1:10:10] open to other other ideas

[1:10:12] is is there

[1:10:13] >> maybe

[1:10:16] go ahead council I'll chime in after

[1:10:18] >> I was just going to say maybe the fix

[1:10:19] for me in the room is to be logged in to

[1:10:22] see the chat I just know specifically

[1:10:24] the last meeting I was interested in the

[1:10:27] comments online and I couldn't see them

[1:10:29] because they you know they'd gone just

[1:10:31] like you said piled on so quickly so

[1:10:34] maybe the fix is just to be logged in as

[1:10:37] well as in the room but that kind of

[1:10:39] skews your numbers

[1:10:41] Yeah. Well, and that's one of the things

[1:10:43] we've talked about is the last couple of

[1:10:45] sessions we haven't had to take a close

[1:10:47] vote. Um if anybody we we used to take

[1:10:50] more close votes and we haven't had the

[1:10:52] last couple sessions. If we get into a

[1:10:54] true voting situation online um between

[1:10:57] in line on the room that's something

[1:10:58] that we as staff have been trying to

[1:11:00] figure out like do we just make everyone

[1:11:02] log into the same system and vote that

[1:11:03] way so we're just on one platform.

[1:11:05] >> The only way we can get from the account

[1:11:08] without having to count is

[1:11:09] >> Yeah. I'm counting eyes in a chat. It's

[1:11:11] funky. But Cassidy, we were almost

[1:11:13] there. We had a we had

[1:11:15] >> So, I mean, that's kind of the

[1:11:16] importance of the LPC sign in. So, what

[1:11:18] I do is I have all of the voting

[1:11:20] members. And granted, one thing that has

[1:11:21] really improved this process is you as a

[1:11:24] board voting to say, "Hey, you can only

[1:11:25] change your voting members twice a year.

[1:11:27] That has been super helpful for us as

[1:11:29] NAB members because now I have a list of

[1:11:31] the voting members and I have a list of

[1:11:33] their emails." So when you sign in to

[1:11:34] LPC, I get that through Qualrix and I've

[1:11:37] written a piece of code where I can

[1:11:39] strip out everyone who's a voting member

[1:11:40] and I have their email. So I know that

[1:11:42] they've signed in and so if we had to do

[1:11:44] a vote, I know who I'm counting. But if

[1:11:46] you don't sign in, I may see you in the

[1:11:49] room, but I may not. So I think we're

[1:11:51] still trying to figure out what is the

[1:11:52] best way to make that process easy for

[1:11:56] our members and easy for us. And we just

[1:11:58] haven't quite gotten there. But we're in

[1:12:00] a much better spot than we were a few

[1:12:01] years ago. I think we were to have close

[1:12:03] though.

[1:12:04] >> Yeah. And we going to figure it out this

[1:12:05] year. Yeah.

[1:12:07] >> I was just going to say it. Um I do

[1:12:11] always

[1:12:13] the chat

[1:12:17] really good raw feedback in there, but I

[1:12:19] can see how from like a voting or trying

[1:12:21] to convey information it's is difficult.

[1:12:23] I wonder if there's a way I mean the

[1:12:25] league's been so great about finding

[1:12:27] tools like Slido if there's like a

[1:12:30] companion

[1:12:32] piece where

[1:12:35] I don't know if it's Slack or something

[1:12:37] else where where we can have the like

[1:12:40] the more serious like

[1:12:41] >> ability to be like all right if you need

[1:12:43] information on property tax then then

[1:12:46] you know

[1:12:46] >> we have a channel and it's it's for

[1:12:49] Jared and if it's other issue and

[1:12:51] Alexa's capturing it it's it's on this

[1:12:53] channel so that people especially the

[1:12:56] voter members or the key people who are

[1:12:58] giving the feedback there so you can can

[1:13:00] use those

[1:13:01] >> um I mean I in in the room you get to

[1:13:05] have that side conversation with the

[1:13:07] person sitting next to you or walk into

[1:13:08] the hallway to grab something from

[1:13:10] another city so I hate to take that away

[1:13:12] because the chat serves that that kind

[1:13:14] of important connection

[1:13:17] piece for those that are joining uh

[1:13:19] remotely

[1:13:21] >> I think that's an interesting way to try

[1:13:22] to make that meeting the people there

[1:13:24] see that online like they don't have to

[1:13:27] log into Zoom to be able to see that

[1:13:29] idea.

[1:13:30] >> I've wondered that too sometimes where I

[1:13:32] know there's important feedback

[1:13:34] happening in the in the chat but I'm in

[1:13:37] the room and

[1:13:39] >> we are having in some ways we're having

[1:13:40] two slightly different meetings.

[1:13:42] >> Yes, in some ways we are having two

[1:13:43] slightly different meetings.

[1:13:44] >> Yeah, that's a good point.

[1:13:46] >> Uh let's see.

[1:13:50] So, could you separate LPC voting

[1:13:52] members into a different Zoom breakout

[1:13:53] room when if you take a vote?

[1:13:56] >> That's intriguing.

[1:13:57] >> Oh, yeah. I don't know if we actually

[1:13:58] talked about that.

[1:14:00] >> That's an interesting thing to explore.

[1:14:02] I don't think about that.

[1:14:04] >> Uh they can

[1:14:05] >> we can Yeah.

[1:14:06] >> The biggest challenge is

[1:14:08] >> just the names people use. like we could

[1:14:10] we'd be the ones exactly to sort people.

[1:14:13] But if somebody joins like maybe they

[1:14:16] just use their first initial instead of

[1:14:17] their full name or like

[1:14:21] trying to results in the back end is

[1:14:23] there.

[1:14:24] >> Yeah. Somebody one day join

[1:14:31] » department it's their personal email

[1:14:34] instead of their email,

[1:14:35] >> right? Like that's like the biggest

[1:14:36] problem tend to have these numbers. like

[1:14:39] >> did you use like I have a whole slew of

[1:14:41] information on

[1:14:42] >> Gmail accounts and some of them are like

[1:14:44] people sitting accounts because they

[1:14:45] haven't moved over to.gov yet but

[1:14:47] someone was like oh I just accidentally

[1:14:49] signed up with my personal account

[1:14:50] because that's what my iPhone filled in.

[1:14:52] Right.

[1:14:52] >> Yeah.

[1:14:53] >> That was the email you had open. Um I do

[1:14:56] want to spend a little time any anything

[1:14:57] else on LPC as far as structural things,

[1:15:01] procedural things? Anything you'd like

[1:15:02] to see different?

[1:15:04] Food doesn't count.

[1:15:06] >> Oh okay. I have thoughts on

[1:15:07] >> and then before I answer that um Tyler

[1:15:10] Clancy has just joined us online. Tyler,

[1:15:14] we this is Cam. I would We're just a few

[1:15:16] minutes late. Are you okay if uh you

[1:15:19] hang on for maybe seven more minutes so

[1:15:22] we can finish this?

[1:15:24] >> You're good. Okay.

[1:15:25] >> All good. Don't worry.

[1:15:26] >> Okay. Perfect. Thank you, sir.

[1:15:28] >> So, let's talk about Tyler fans for a

[1:15:29] second. No, [laughter]

[1:15:32] >> I do think it really helps um we can get

[1:15:36] way more into a mode where we um

[1:15:39] announce the person who's talking and

[1:15:44] um that definitely I think helps those

[1:15:47] that are online

[1:15:48] >> when I'm making a comment or when I'm

[1:15:50] >> commenting.

[1:15:52] >> So anyone that's on a mic say this who

[1:15:54] it is and where they're from. That's a

[1:15:55] good point. I think I think people get

[1:15:57] used get, you know, used to hear staff

[1:16:00] are like, "Yep, I recognize that's

[1:16:02] Justin." But there's others that they

[1:16:04] might be like this random person.

[1:16:06] >> That's a good point.

[1:16:15] » Yeah.

[1:16:17] Maybe one more mic then because

[1:16:19] sometimes you know when the mic is going

[1:16:20] back and forth it's kind of that long

[1:16:23] pause it's going

[1:16:25] I'm just gonna speak loud let them know

[1:16:27] we work yeah waiting for the mic does

[1:16:32] >> yeah mic more mics have two more

[1:16:35] questions and I'm gonna put up both out

[1:16:37] there and if you want to answer you know

[1:16:39] what we're just talking about LPC but um

[1:16:41] how do we do in 2026 session from your

[1:16:43] perspective on priorities and political

[1:16:45] capital Um, I know I sort of already

[1:16:47] answered that one a little bit, but

[1:16:49] would love to hear other perspectives.

[1:16:50] And then, um, how do we do during the

[1:16:52] session on membership involvement in

[1:16:54] advocacy? Um, so thoughts on either of

[1:16:57] those

[1:16:59] or any other thoughts on session? How do

[1:17:01] we do? I just thought I want to share

[1:17:04] probably more of the how did we do with

[1:17:06] membership involvement and advocacy. I

[1:17:08] feel like that as the session began

[1:17:11] there was certainly a lot of curiosity

[1:17:13] about where bills were and I think you

[1:17:15] as staff I think we as a as an LPC

[1:17:18] operation did a really good job of week

[1:17:21] to week giving let's call them

[1:17:23] breadcrumbs as as as a bill bills on

[1:17:27] property tax morphed as bills on other

[1:17:30] topics morphed I felt like our members

[1:17:33] wherever they were online or or in the

[1:17:35] room they I think they were able to see

[1:17:37] the the progress and the evolution of

[1:17:39] those topics. Um, and I really like

[1:17:42] that. I think I don't know that this

[1:17:43] year was a whole lot different than

[1:17:45] other years. Maybe maybe the big

[1:17:46] difference this year there wasn't quite

[1:17:48] the surprises at the end of the session

[1:17:50] that kind of hijacked maybe that last

[1:17:53] meeting

[1:17:56] » but I really felt like that our members

[1:17:58] were able to to follow along in the

[1:18:00] evolution and and we did a really good

[1:18:02] job of of bringing along in some of the

[1:18:05] more heavyweight topics that we

[1:18:07] >> I appreciate that Seth. One of the

[1:18:08] things and I know I've expressed this to

[1:18:09] many of you. of the things that was

[1:18:10] interesting this year is that we didn't

[1:18:12] really have what I call like a big bad.

[1:18:14] Um, you know, some years we'll have a

[1:18:16] couple bills and those are, you know,

[1:18:18] those are the big bills. That's like the

[1:18:19] final box and we talk about them every

[1:18:21] LPC and we're working through them. Um,

[1:18:24] this year we had a lot of second tier

[1:18:26] kind of level things and it gets really

[1:18:28] difficult to figure out how to

[1:18:30] prioritize when it's the big bads. We

[1:18:32] know like we need to talk about these

[1:18:33] two or three bills. when it's 20 bills

[1:18:36] that are sort of next level, it gets

[1:18:38] harder to kind of prioritize those or

[1:18:40] and you saw that on the OPC agenda. We

[1:18:41] would have so many bills on the agenda

[1:18:43] because once you're down at that next

[1:18:44] level,

[1:18:46] you know, Jared's bill is no more

[1:18:49] important than the bill I'm working on

[1:18:50] that's, you know, we're all kind of

[1:18:51] second level bills. Um and so yeah, we

[1:18:55] were trying to figure out that also how

[1:18:57] to talk about all the different things

[1:18:59] that are going on. But you know,

[1:19:00] frankly, in previous years, we may not

[1:19:02] have even had time to talk about because

[1:19:04] we were f so focused on whatever the big

[1:19:06] thing was. So I appreciate that.

[1:19:09] >> You know, I think you guys did a really

[1:19:10] good job in committees. I think the

[1:19:12] committees in general did a really good

[1:19:13] job in filtering through these so that

[1:19:15] they either didn't come out of committee

[1:19:17] or they came out better. Um, and I know

[1:19:21] I saw a lot of testimony going on and a

[1:19:23] lot of people were getting that. So, I

[1:19:26] thought that was good

[1:19:30] for the sessions.

[1:19:31] >> Yeah. If I find the legislature report

[1:19:33] card on committees, they they did a

[1:19:35] better job this year. Their grade went

[1:19:36] up for sure.

[1:19:38] I just a question from looking at more

[1:19:41] of the executive group and how much

[1:19:43] pressure they were holding down and if

[1:19:47] that is there more need for us to get

[1:19:50] more involved and how we get a little

[1:19:52] bit more take some of that heat off of

[1:19:53] that executive and bring it down to just

[1:19:56] the board members here and say hey how

[1:19:58] can we help you with some of this stuff

[1:19:59] and I know it's hard to pass on

[1:20:01] something but maybe

[1:20:04] somehow reach [clears throat] out or we

[1:20:05] need to reach out somehow better

[1:20:07] communication you say, "Hey, where do

[1:20:08] you need our help in in certain bills?"

[1:20:10] Because we might have some expertise

[1:20:12] that could do that. And you probably I

[1:20:14] know you probably lean on some of the

[1:20:15] stuff at SoC just because we have them.

[1:20:17] >> We we do talk to your folks a lot.

[1:20:19] >> Yeah.

[1:20:21] So, council member, that actually was

[1:20:24] one of the top priorities that when

[1:20:26] President Rush and I sat down last

[1:20:28] summer before she became president, that

[1:20:30] was one of her pieces of that she wanted

[1:20:33] to accomplish this year was how can we

[1:20:36] better engage individual board members

[1:20:39] and basically fill that gap between the

[1:20:41] executive committee, which I should have

[1:20:44] let out with this in the beginning of

[1:20:46] the meeting. I want to thank the

[1:20:47] executive committee for the amount of

[1:20:49] time that they put in on lots of

[1:20:51] different issues, lots of 7 a.m. phone

[1:20:52] calls, lots of late night messages back

[1:20:54] and forth, a tremendous amount of time

[1:20:56] and expertise. And then we have LPC

[1:20:59] and LPC I will grab this. It's on my

[1:21:03] desk upstairs. It's just a reminder to

[1:21:04] me of how far we've come. This is an LPC

[1:21:06] agenda from 2020 where I was hand

[1:21:09] counting on the back. We were counting

[1:21:11] the uh the number of LBC votes. lobby

[1:21:14] weren't even in office yet in 2020. This

[1:21:16] predates CO and we had 91 votes that we

[1:21:19] were counting. That was the people in

[1:21:21] the meeting. So to go from that in a

[1:21:23] matter of few years to now we've got 400

[1:21:25] people on the call, not all voting

[1:21:26] members. But you know, we are it is a

[1:21:30] phenomenal growth that we've experienced

[1:21:32] here. But I think there is still this space between being an

[1:21:38] [clears throat] executive board officer

[1:21:40] and LPC member and you as board members

[1:21:41] and what's involved in the session. So

[1:21:44] one way we tried to do that this session

[1:21:46] is we tried to have other board members

[1:21:48] participate in the work groups that we

[1:21:50] that had upwork groups that happened

[1:21:51] during the session. We always made sure

[1:21:52] we had at least a couple of board

[1:21:53] members not just executive board members

[1:21:56] in those calls and then we tried to have

[1:21:58] other board members on call for many

[1:22:01] testimony but I think there's still room

[1:22:02] to improve and and I always was

[1:22:04] impressed because every time I talked to

[1:22:06] our rep you know Angela like oh yeah

[1:22:08] I've already talked already.

[1:22:11] So, I appreciate all that. I just want

[1:22:13] to make sure that we're we're helping

[1:22:15] you out [clears throat] best as we can.

[1:22:17] >> I like that idea. I think there's

[1:22:19] something to say for in advance of the

[1:22:20] session coming up with, okay, these two

[1:22:23] board members are on water. You can

[1:22:25] always hit them. They'll come to the

[1:22:26] capital on water. These two are on

[1:22:27] housing, these two are on transportation

[1:22:29] on and that way you know, you just have

[1:22:31] them in rotation that you can text them

[1:22:32] and say, "Hey, we have an important

[1:22:34] meeting come up. We need more bodies on this or expertise, whatever, but

[1:22:37] maybe if we pre-filled that. I'm not

[1:22:39] suggesting we have 8,000 subcommittees,

[1:22:41] but if we have everybody has their I am

[1:22:43] the water leazison

[1:22:45] that

[1:22:46] >> help so you don't have to do it in the

[1:22:47] middle of the session.

[1:22:48] >> I think knowing to in advance who has

[1:22:51] time and capacity to come up this

[1:22:54] there's definitely times where you can

[1:22:56] do an online testimony, but um I think

[1:22:59] the session is um particularly for

[1:23:02] committee testimony more impactful when

[1:23:04] you're in the room. Um, and you know, I

[1:23:07] really appreciate it. Um, the executive

[1:23:09] committee does put in, you know, a ton

[1:23:12] of time and we sign up for the bonus

[1:23:15] pack of time [clears throat]

[1:23:17] for these positions. So, I really

[1:23:19] appreciated um, you know, it's also

[1:23:22] happens to fall during my busy season,

[1:23:23] but it luckily dubtales. So, I was

[1:23:26] really grateful that, you know, Troy was

[1:23:28] often available to testify. Lauren was

[1:23:30] able to testify. appreciate Christa was

[1:23:32] able to fly up um and she testified

[1:23:35] remotely several times and then there's

[1:23:36] others that had some flexibility to be

[1:23:38] up um TR was up quite a bit Burton was

[1:23:41] up um if we know I think if we the hard

[1:23:45] part is the way the

[1:23:47] every 24 hours we never know what the

[1:23:49] schedule is going to be at the capital

[1:23:50] based on when they're releasing

[1:23:52] committee agendas. So if there's certain

[1:23:54] topics that board members are interested

[1:23:56] and able to help fill in because they've

[1:23:59] been part of a work group or it's really

[1:24:02] important to their city and then that

[1:24:03] they've kind of built some flexibility

[1:24:05] and bandwidth into their life for that

[1:24:08] seven week time period where where we

[1:24:10] can call on you to come up and we know

[1:24:11] that in advance that would probably be

[1:24:13] how we how we bridge that gap between

[1:24:16] the executive committee that's up there

[1:24:18] quite a bit and then the board and

[1:24:21] helping having you all help because

[1:24:23] that's that's kind of what we need to

[1:24:25] know is it's one thing if I'm like, "Hey

[1:24:28] Jessica, sorry to blow up your day. Can

[1:24:30] you drop everything you're doing and be

[1:24:32] to the capital in an hour for you?" Yes.

[1:24:34] And I actually thought that if I did

[1:24:36] that, you'd probably do that. But if we

[1:24:38] if I did like, hey, Jessica has been on

[1:24:41] the water work group. She's up to speed.

[1:24:43] So if we do give her that 24-hour

[1:24:45] notice, she's built in that flexibility.

[1:24:47] I think that changes the dynamic for how

[1:24:49] staff and the executive committee can

[1:24:51] pull people.

[1:24:52] >> Well, I think and the other piece of

[1:24:53] that what I what I'm thinking I really

[1:24:54] like that is if we had a couple people

[1:24:56] assigned to subjects because sometimes

[1:24:58] we just need a gut check on something

[1:24:59] really quick. Um and and if someone has,

[1:25:02] you know, an expertise or a subject

[1:25:03] matter and I can say, you know, I know

[1:25:05] Mayor Shepard has this. Um I know, you

[1:25:08] know, whatever. I can call him up and

[1:25:09] say like, okay, board member,

[1:25:11] [clears throat] I need something to give

[1:25:12] me a gut check on this. And then and we

[1:25:14] do this all the time in Lightning

[1:25:15] Buckley. like kids down there so we can

[1:25:17] grab her and say, "President, gut check

[1:25:19] quick." Um, but going forward, we won't

[1:25:22] have that same way. Um, so yeah, having

[1:25:24] some people that are assigned to

[1:25:25] different problems that we could gut

[1:25:27] check with,

[1:25:28] >> even if you're not getting up there to

[1:25:29] say, "Hey, this bill just dropped. Give

[1:25:31] me your quick take on it."

[1:25:32] >> Is there a way to get a hold of people

[1:25:34] quicker, too? Because I would get

[1:25:35] emails, but I get so we all do, right?

[1:25:37] We get so many emails that it'll say,

[1:25:39] "Hey, I need to know before the end of

[1:25:40] the day or before." By the time I

[1:25:42] thought it had already almost passed.

[1:25:45] So, and I know text messaging is really

[1:25:46] hard, but if we use I don't know, group

[1:25:48] me with different groups or something

[1:25:50] like that.

[1:25:51] >> Well, if we knew what people were

[1:25:52] saying, we could figure out

[1:25:54] >> because if it's in my face, I see it.

[1:25:56] But if it's in my email,

[1:25:58] >> I might not for a while.

[1:25:59] >> Yeah.

[1:25:59] >> And I know no one has time to make calls

[1:26:01] try to get a hold of everybody. So,

[1:26:03] >> Oh, thanks a lot. But

[1:26:05] >> yeah, I think text is is really helpful

[1:26:08] because you could, you know, Justin

[1:26:09] could be in a Yeah.

[1:26:10] >> committee hearing in Texas. It's hard

[1:26:11] for him to be in a committee hearing and

[1:26:13] trouble calling you.

[1:26:15] >> Right. Right. So test is great. I'm just

[1:26:17] saying good one platform or I don't

[1:26:18] know.

[1:26:19] >> Yeah. But yeah, but I Yeah. really

[1:26:22] interesting idea of kind of signing some

[1:26:24] stuff up in advance and then like I say

[1:26:26] like if it's water if it's water, you

[1:26:28] know, it's going to be me as the staff

[1:26:29] are dealing with it and you know if it's

[1:26:32] wooey Jared's gonna be stuck with it.

[1:26:33] Yeah. Whatever it is forever. Um

[1:26:37] [laughter] but but yeah, if we knew, you

[1:26:39] know, like I've got three of you on a

[1:26:41] text chain and you know this is what

[1:26:43] it's going to be, then yeah, that I

[1:26:45] really like that. That's great feedback.

[1:26:47] >> Sorry to cut off this awesome

[1:26:48] discussion. I we we don't want to leave

[1:26:51] Clancy hanging.

[1:26:52] >> You know what?

[1:26:53] >> Too long.

[1:26:53] >> We like to leave homelessness last

[1:26:56] >> no longer homeless. He has a home.

[1:27:00] >> So

[1:27:02] Tyler, thank you very much for joining

[1:27:04] us. keep getting tongue tied because I

[1:27:06] want to call you Representative Clancy,

[1:27:07] but those days are over, correct?

[1:27:12] >> Oh, you're on mute.

[1:27:15] >> So, we had we'd asked Tyler to come join

[1:27:18] us at the board meeting. He's been

[1:27:20] officially on the job now for two weeks

[1:27:23] as of today. And we even though our

[1:27:27] schedule's running late, we're still

[1:27:28] going to spend the full 25 minutes. But

[1:27:30] Tyler will just shorten the last agenda

[1:27:32] and make sure we we get the full time

[1:27:34] that that he committed with us. So,

[1:27:36] thank you for making time to join us.

[1:27:38] And Molly, I'm gonna actually give you a

[1:27:39] moment just to refresh everybody's

[1:27:42] memory of where we're at and then we'll

[1:27:44] have you turn it over to Tyler. Does

[1:27:45] that work?

[1:27:45] >> Yeah, it's great. Um, and I'll try not

[1:27:48] to do too much because I want to make

[1:27:49] sure that um we have space for Tyler to

[1:27:52] talk about what he wants to talk about.

[1:27:53] So um after Wayne Eater House announced

[1:27:57] that he was uh leaving Neerhouser um

[1:28:00] last winter, Nick Coleman stepped in as

[1:28:02] interim and then Tyler was named as the

[1:28:05] new incoming um chair. We or pardon me

[1:28:09] um coordinator uh for homelessness

[1:28:12] within the state. Um we're really

[1:28:14] excited to have him and work with him.

[1:28:16] Um this session I think showed us that

[1:28:19] we're in a bit of a transition period.

[1:28:21] Um there's still a lot of uncertainty

[1:28:24] about uh a campus coming online and what

[1:28:27] that might look like. Um one thing that

[1:28:30] we're looking at right now is the end of

[1:28:32] the winter response funding and policy.

[1:28:35] Um which means that there are hundreds

[1:28:38] of beds that pending both funding and

[1:28:41] land use permissions may go offline. um

[1:28:44] which may then lead to hundreds of

[1:28:47] people being um unsheltered in uh our

[1:28:51] city streets um across the state. So um

[1:28:54] we've had conversations about that. Um

[1:28:57] Heather, I'd love it if you could kind

[1:28:58] of chat through the legislative session

[1:29:00] and what you're thinking ahead. And then

[1:29:01] we did briefly chat about um our desire

[1:29:04] to still create a mitigation task force

[1:29:07] of our filter cities and non-filter

[1:29:08] cities um ahead of next session. even

[1:29:12] done it after statute. I still think um

[1:29:15] we as a league would love to do um just

[1:29:18] any way and come up with some

[1:29:19] legislative recommendation. So, we're

[1:29:21] really excited to have Tyler in this

[1:29:23] space. We're going to miss him on the

[1:29:24] hill, but um I think he's very well

[1:29:26] suited to be in this position and move

[1:29:28] us through this next chapter of policy.

[1:29:32] >> Well, thanks so much, Molly. Can you

[1:29:34] hear me? Okay.

[1:29:35] >> Yes, sir.

[1:29:36] >> Fantastic. Well, as Molly mentioned,

[1:29:39] stepping into a pretty easy job right

[1:29:41] now and

[1:29:44] no big crisises or anything coming our way. Um, well, I'll do this

[1:29:49] really quick. Um, I'll share just

[1:29:51] briefly about the legislative session,

[1:29:54] talk about the appropriations and

[1:29:55] policy. Um, I'll share briefly about the

[1:29:59] winter response uh opportunities and

[1:30:01] challenges and then more than anything

[1:30:04] uh I I want to be here to answer any

[1:30:06] questions as well. I think that's

[1:30:08] probably how I could be the best asset

[1:30:10] going forward. I'll also make a note

[1:30:12] that I'll share my uh email, my new

[1:30:15] email address and I'll share my cell

[1:30:17] phone number on the chat here. So, if if

[1:30:20] there's any mayors or

[1:30:22] uh other municipal leaders who need any

[1:30:25] help, need any assistance, or just would

[1:30:27] like to connect generally about

[1:30:29] opportunities or challenges that your

[1:30:30] city's facing, uh we will we will

[1:30:32] absolutely make that a priority. So I'll

[1:30:34] just first echo the sentiment that was

[1:30:37] shared that uh the league is absolutely

[1:30:40] very very visible and very engaged on

[1:30:42] the hill on a number of issues but but

[1:30:44] uh in my uh portfolio they were

[1:30:48] absolutely uh available and engaged at

[1:30:52] every step of the way on homelessness.

[1:30:54] So there was a couple of uh policy items

[1:30:56] that uh moved forward um and and some

[1:31:00] that didn't on homelessness. Um there's

[1:31:03] a some bills that move forward that uh

[1:31:06] gave cities more tools to address uh

[1:31:09] what what would generally be called uh

[1:31:11] disorder. So

[1:31:14] um identifying areas for stay out of

[1:31:17] drug areas. Um there was legislation

[1:31:20] that passed to restructure the office of

[1:31:23] homeless services, make it more

[1:31:25] streamlined and effective so we can be

[1:31:27] better partners to serve cities and

[1:31:28] counties. Um, I'm actually in Mayor

[1:31:31] Wood's conference room right now in

[1:31:33] South Salt Lake. That's why I couldn't

[1:31:34] join you in person today. We just

[1:31:36] finished up a meeting. Um, and then

[1:31:39] probably the most uh comprehensive

[1:31:42] homelessness legislation was run by

[1:31:45] Representative Steve Ellison from Sandy.

[1:31:47] Um, that bill actually failed on the

[1:31:49] House floor by a very close margin and

[1:31:53] there were some policy items in there

[1:31:55] that Molly and you all as the league had

[1:31:59] worked very closely on because of the

[1:32:02] league's leadership. We're actually able

[1:32:05] to revive key components of that

[1:32:08] legislation and move it into uh other

[1:32:10] legislation that was able to pass. Those

[1:32:13] key components were allowing for um

[1:32:16] flexible permitting for shelter beds uh

[1:32:19] for cities that consented to that and

[1:32:22] wanted that flexibility.

[1:32:24] Um it it enhanced mitigation funding for

[1:32:26] West Valley City who's been a great

[1:32:28] partner in this effort and in this work

[1:32:31] to to serve our unsheltered community.

[1:32:34] And then um those were the those were

[1:32:38] the main components. Um, I'll parlay

[1:32:40] that into one element that failed in

[1:32:43] Representative Elison's bill was the

[1:32:45] statutory framework that established a

[1:32:47] task force for the league and um the

[1:32:50] office of homeless services and the

[1:32:52] homeless services board to work together

[1:32:55] to provide clarity for cities moving

[1:32:57] forward on mitigation funding. Um,

[1:33:00] that's something that Mayor Bradshaw and

[1:33:02] I have committed a partnership that even

[1:33:05] though it didn't pass in legislation, we

[1:33:07] are absolutely going to lead out on

[1:33:08] this. And so I've I've already dropped a

[1:33:10] line to uh Molly and her team to say,

[1:33:14] "Hey, who who needs to be at the table?

[1:33:16] Who would like to be a part of this task

[1:33:19] force? We want to engage shelter cities

[1:33:21] and non-shelter cities alike." And

[1:33:23] hopefully uh the the end goal would be

[1:33:26] to uh recommend legislative changes that

[1:33:29] would give clarity and consistency to

[1:33:32] the mitigation process.

[1:33:35] Um I'll I'll finalize by sharing on the

[1:33:38] funding front. The governor's budget

[1:33:41] request for homelessness was fully

[1:33:43] funded for the first time probably ever.

[1:33:46] Um the total number is about $45

[1:33:49] million. Um, and it's partitioned out

[1:33:52] between one-time money and ongoing

[1:33:55] money. And it's partitioned out into

[1:33:57] three tranches. The first is high

[1:33:59] utilizers in the criminal justice

[1:34:01] system. The second is emergency shelter

[1:34:03] and housing. And the third is mental and

[1:34:06] behavioral health capacity. And these

[1:34:08] funding is contingent on a onetoone

[1:34:10] local match. Um, we're going to be uh

[1:34:14] doing a full scope review of how much

[1:34:15] money is already being spent in the

[1:34:17] system, where that's being spent, and

[1:34:19] where we can be great partners to you as

[1:34:21] leaders uh on the front lines on the

[1:34:23] municipal and then also on our partners

[1:34:26] on the county front as well. So, I hope

[1:34:28] that gives a general overview. I'm more

[1:34:30] than happy to send a legislative summary

[1:34:32] to CAM if if that would be helpful to

[1:34:35] disseminate that to members. Um but but

[1:34:37] I want to make sure that I uh use your

[1:34:39] time effectively and help answer any

[1:34:42] questions that that uh may be may be

[1:34:45] important on the heels of the session.

[1:34:50] » Mayor Palmer has a question for you.

[1:34:52] >> Tyler, can you go into the the

[1:34:54] mitigation funding, the one to one um

[1:34:57] local match and then the aspects of

[1:34:59] that?

[1:35:00] >> Absolutely. So it's actually two

[1:35:03] different things. So the mitigation

[1:35:05] funding was

[1:35:07] relatively unchanged. The only thing

[1:35:09] that changed with mitigation funding was

[1:35:12] in FY2027

[1:35:17] there were one time 15% increase

[1:35:21] to the mitigation funding um because

[1:35:25] that clarity and that consistency hasn't

[1:35:27] been established. That was through

[1:35:29] Representative Elison's bill that that

[1:35:32] died but then was kind of revived and

[1:35:34] put into pieces. There's a funding

[1:35:37] stream that was identified and there's

[1:35:40] one-time funding and ongoing funding for

[1:35:42] both is high utilizers in the criminal

[1:35:45] justice system. So, just to give an

[1:35:47] example of what that means, and I'm I'm

[1:35:50] using some some big numbers here, so

[1:35:52] bear with me, but in uh there was a

[1:35:56] thousand individuals in Salt Lake City

[1:35:58] alone. So, for example, Mayor Palmer,

[1:36:01] these individuals could probably be

[1:36:04] getting arrested in your city or in

[1:36:06] Midvil or in South Salt Lake. But for

[1:36:08] the data set, this is we're only looking

[1:36:10] at arrest data from Salt Lake City.

[1:36:13] These 10,00 individuals compiled

[1:36:16] comprised 43% of all arrests in the

[1:36:20] entire city in 2025. So if you break

[1:36:23] that down to manh hours is about 20

[1:36:25] full-time employees dealing with this

[1:36:27] small relatively small group of

[1:36:29] individuals who are cycling over and over in the criminal justice

[1:36:32] system. When you cross reference that

[1:36:35] with homelessness data, these

[1:36:37] individuals are disproportionately

[1:36:39] uh seen in in homelessness. And so

[1:36:42] really what we're recognizing is that

[1:36:45] homelessness is a complex issue. It

[1:36:47] comprises that individual who's, you

[1:36:49] know, someone that's my age who's out

[1:36:50] and about living uh in and dealing with

[1:36:53] addiction and maybe I'm committing uh

[1:36:56] theft and other types of disordered

[1:37:00] behavior to provide for that addiction.

[1:37:02] But it's also the mom fleeing domestic

[1:37:04] violence with her children. It's also an

[1:37:06] individual who

[1:37:09] was released from state hospital uh

[1:37:11] who's still experiencing mental illness

[1:37:13] and they have no place to go. And so

[1:37:15] what the legislature did by

[1:37:17] appropriating that funding into high

[1:37:19] utilizers in the criminal justice system

[1:37:22] is they're saying we want to support

[1:37:23] homelessness, but we want to see you be

[1:37:24] innovative with this population in

[1:37:27] particular. So we know they're headed on

[1:37:30] a path of either long-term incarceration

[1:37:33] or uh death. This is the number one uh

[1:37:35] age range for overdose deaths in the

[1:37:37] state of Utah right now. And so what can

[1:37:39] we do to be more uh effective in our

[1:37:43] interventions and help people heal? So

[1:37:45] mayor, to to just recap on your

[1:37:47] question, mitigation uh there was a 15%

[1:37:50] one-time adjustment that goes into

[1:37:53] effect in FY2027.

[1:37:55] Um and then the high utilizer money is a

[1:37:58] separate piece completely. I tend to

[1:38:01] believe that it could be used to enhance

[1:38:02] mitigation funding. Um but but that's to

[1:38:05] be seen. So that's a that's a separate

[1:38:07] set of money.

[1:38:12] » Thank you.

[1:38:14] >> Any other questions?

[1:38:16] >> Oh, Derek Burton, do you want to go

[1:38:18] ahead and ask your question?

[1:38:20] >> I do. We met right before the session

[1:38:24] started and you were asking me what I

[1:38:25] thought needed to be done to help with

[1:38:27] this. And I think that comment ties into

[1:38:30] what you started out with your

[1:38:31] conversation, how the state needs to

[1:38:33] bring their resources together and have

[1:38:35] an organized plan and not just leave it

[1:38:38] up with the local communities. I mean,

[1:38:40] right now, wherever the shelters are,

[1:38:41] whether it's Ogden, Midvale, Salt Lake

[1:38:43] City, it feels like it's left all to

[1:38:46] them to do all the work. I think it

[1:38:48] should be under the state to do the work

[1:38:49] and those just happen to be houses where

[1:38:52] the homeless go in to receive their help

[1:38:55] and resources. I think getting the state

[1:38:58] together and putting all the resources

[1:39:00] together, all the providers together and

[1:39:02] have them come up with their real plan

[1:39:04] is going to be helping a lot. So, I'm

[1:39:07] very strong behind that.

[1:39:10] >> Well, thank you, Mayor Burton, and and

[1:39:12] I'm with you 100%. I uh I think it was a key moment because as you know, mayor,

[1:39:19] and and and I've heard you say this in

[1:39:21] different iterations, but you can talk

[1:39:23] about your priorities, but it's your

[1:39:24] budget that really shows your values.

[1:39:26] And I think the state investing a

[1:39:28] historic amount in homelessness, I think

[1:39:30] you can expect that the state is really

[1:39:32] going to engage deeply. To your to your

[1:39:34] point, mayor, that we can't just say

[1:39:38] this is a this is a Salt Lake City

[1:39:40] problem or this is a West Valley city,

[1:39:42] what whatever the city is. We've got to

[1:39:44] be united. We've got to have a strategic

[1:39:46] plan. We've got to hold ourselves

[1:39:48] accountable as state leaders. So, um, as Molly mentioned, I'm relatively new

[1:39:53] to this role. still kind of finding my

[1:39:55] desk and getting my computer set up, but

[1:39:57] I'm I'm I'm ready to roll and ready to

[1:39:59] collaborate and work together. And I I

[1:40:02] hope that you with with uh for those of

[1:40:06] you who we've worked together, you know

[1:40:08] that I'm absolutely committed to being a

[1:40:10] collaborator, being a partner, and

[1:40:13] supporting the good work that you're

[1:40:14] already doing. So, thank you for thank

[1:40:16] you for teening that up, Mayor Burton.

[1:40:20] >> I want to thank you. I feel like um we

[1:40:23] had uh some really great conversations

[1:40:26] particularly the last two nights um of

[1:40:30] the session especially [clears throat]

[1:40:31] when we were all directing the intern

[1:40:33] witch bill to put the language in

[1:40:36] put it in two bills too soon.

[1:40:40] >> Yeah.

[1:40:41] >> It was such a moment. We were all We

[1:40:44] were all in the hallway figuring that

[1:40:45] out. And then

[1:40:46] >> it was a moment

[1:40:47] >> with very clear instructions that did

[1:40:48] not get followed, but at least we passed

[1:40:50] it twice.

[1:40:51] >> Completed the hands of circle.

[1:40:52] >> Yeah, we did. We all put hands in.

[1:40:55] >> That was something.

[1:40:56] So anyway, thank you for helping us figure all that

[1:41:00] out. But we had we had some great

[1:41:01] discussions about um even though the the

[1:41:04] work group wasn't going to go into the

[1:41:06] bill, the importance of that work group.

[1:41:08] Um, and so I know that you're only two

[1:41:11] weeks in into this very light and easy

[1:41:14] assignment, but have you thought about,

[1:41:17] you know, your timing, um, how you'd

[1:41:20] like us to send you any recommendations

[1:41:23] um,

[1:41:25] in going forward about about that

[1:41:27] particular component?

[1:41:30] >> Absolutely. And uh yes, I basically

[1:41:34] lived in the hallway with Cam, Mayor

[1:41:37] Bradshaw, and Molly for the last 48

[1:41:40] hours of the session. Um [clears throat]

[1:41:43] it was uh it was quite a time. Well,

[1:41:46] this is such a high priority item. I So,

[1:41:48] we've already actually created a kind of

[1:41:50] a placeholder uh spreadsheet for, you

[1:41:53] know, the membership of who we're ready

[1:41:56] when you're ready. um you can submit

[1:41:59] those direct directly to me or Nick.

[1:42:01] This is an extremely important item and

[1:42:04] for that reason um we're ready to rock.

[1:42:08] So whenever you identify those uh

[1:42:11] leaders who you'd like to to join the task force, we'll get rolling and our staff is is aware that this is a

[1:42:20] key priority for the stability in our

[1:42:23] system. uh to give to give the leaders

[1:42:26] on the front line like yourselves the

[1:42:28] clarity and consistency. That was the

[1:42:30] big word, consistency. Uh I was just

[1:42:32] with Mayor Wood and she just said,

[1:42:34] "Listen, my we need the we need the

[1:42:37] mitigation funding. It's it's super

[1:42:39] helpful, but right now it changes every

[1:42:41] year and our heads are spinning." So, um

[1:42:43] we're ready. It's on a on our hot hot

[1:42:47] sheet. Um and and uh looking forward to working together. Uh, Mayor Bradshaw,

[1:42:54] >> thank you. I think from our perspective,

[1:42:58] um, we'll be looking to to get some

[1:43:01] recommendations and then formally adopt

[1:43:03] those in our April board meeting. And

[1:43:06] so, uh, if that won't slow down your

[1:43:09] timeline too much, we'll plan to issue

[1:43:11] our suggested recommendations

[1:43:13] representing shelter and non shelter

[1:43:16] cities after that April meeting. Unless,

[1:43:18] of course, you're planning to come to

[1:43:19] St. George, then we'll just tell you

[1:43:20] there. Is that on the 23rd?

[1:43:24] >> Yes, sir. 23rd and 24th.

[1:43:27] >> 23rd and 24th. Okay. Um I I think

[1:43:31] someone texted me today and they asked

[1:43:33] if I could come. So, I'll make it this

[1:43:36] you all. I hope you know like um my I I

[1:43:39] really want to be a partner in this and work together. And I want I want you

[1:43:44] to be able to pick up the phone and get

[1:43:46] if you have a question for the state

[1:43:47] about homelessness. Uh, I want to be

[1:43:50] that partner and and bringing those

[1:43:52] resources to bear. So, um, if I'm not if

[1:43:55] I'm not there in person, I'll try to

[1:43:56] make that in person. Um, St. George in

[1:43:58] April, you know, is just brutal. Uh,

[1:44:01] it's tough tough. But uh no, I'll

[1:44:04] definitely try to be there. But if not,

[1:44:06] my goal, Mayor, is if we could get those

[1:44:08] legislative recommendations identified

[1:44:12] by around September or October, I think

[1:44:14] that sets us up for success um for the

[1:44:17] legislative session that we can get it

[1:44:19] down the pipeline, start to work the the body a little bit, and uh and

[1:44:24] hopefully be successful there.

[1:44:28] >> Thank you. I we I I think I speak

[1:44:31] probably for everyone. We're excited to

[1:44:32] have you in this role. We, you know,

[1:44:34] we've long felt really good about um the

[1:44:37] work we've done with you at the state

[1:44:39] capital. Um so, uh we would be happy to

[1:44:43] have you join us in St. George. Um if

[1:44:45] you found your way down there with a

[1:44:47] mountain bike, that would be great.

[1:44:50] We can we can have some offline

[1:44:52] discussions. Any and I see uh I see

[1:44:55] Mayor Nadulski has his hand up with a

[1:44:56] question.

[1:44:59] I I actually think I part of my contract

[1:45:02] to speak today was I wouldn't take

[1:45:03] questions from Mayor Nadulski. Is that

[1:45:05] okay? [laughter]

[1:45:11] » Knows how Tyler knows how I like to

[1:45:13] talk, so he's trying to he's trying to

[1:45:14] bait me here. But um I wanted to tell

[1:45:18] for the benefit of the group, I I had a

[1:45:20] really good meeting with Tyler and his

[1:45:21] team. Um it felt like a completely new

[1:45:24] energy. It was we left feeling really

[1:45:27] energized and and excited. Um

[1:45:31] Tyler touched on these uh high utilizer

[1:45:34] population and we kind of moved quickly

[1:45:37] past it and I just wanted to reinforce

[1:45:38] something when when he talks about

[1:45:41] homelessness, he continues to talk about

[1:45:43] the entire spectrum of need because he talked about how complicated the

[1:45:47] issue is, right? this issue of of

[1:45:50] criminal justice and the justice system

[1:45:52] and the role that it plays is a leg of

[1:45:54] it and it has been uh deemphasized for

[1:45:57] too long and this high utilizer issue is

[1:46:01] absolutely killing us. Um we have got to

[1:46:04] address it the way that he is going

[1:46:06] after it and it does not mean however

[1:46:09] that we're quote arresting our way out

[1:46:11] of homelessness. Um, I get so frustrated

[1:46:13] that that legitimate needs, needs that

[1:46:16] you can document with data, quantify,

[1:46:19] improve, uh, that are being ignored and

[1:46:22] that people are continually being harmed

[1:46:23] every day by the same small group of

[1:46:25] people. Um, do not move towards

[1:46:27] solutions because of the politization

[1:46:30] and this all or nothing mentality of the

[1:46:32] talking points. This is not what he's

[1:46:34] referring. That's not what he's

[1:46:35] proposing. There's still all of the

[1:46:37] different pillars for homelessness, but

[1:46:39] this one is one that that me and and up

[1:46:42] here in Ogden that we're excited to be

[1:46:44] talking about and really uh Tyler really

[1:46:46] appreciate the fact that you're want

[1:46:48] willing to take that on.

[1:46:51] >> Thanks. Thanks, Mayor. And just building

[1:46:54] on the good work that's already being

[1:46:55] done, trying to row in the same

[1:46:57] direction and recognize that it's never

[1:47:00] going to be a one-sizefits-all uh

[1:47:02] solution to a very complex challenge.

[1:47:05] So, thank thanks mayor for your

[1:47:07] confidence and hope to continue to earn

[1:47:09] it through uh our our hard work

[1:47:11] together.

[1:47:13] >> Thanks. And I'll just point out again

[1:47:14] that it really says something when Ogden

[1:47:16] and Salt Lake City come to the same

[1:47:19] we're we're doing the same data analysis

[1:47:21] that Salt Lake City did. And there's

[1:47:23] nothing partisan about it when you have

[1:47:24] Salt Lake and Ogden on the same page. It

[1:47:27] literally is data. It's it's fact and

[1:47:29] it's it's humanity. It's people. Um, I

[1:47:32] just hope that the the league will help

[1:47:34] make sure that this doesn't get pinned

[1:47:35] into the corner of arresting your way

[1:47:36] out of homelessness. But we do need to

[1:47:38] sometimes arrest people

[1:47:42] >> and since since you and Salt Lake are so um sympatico at this moment,

[1:47:46] we'll go to Council Member Dan Dugan for

[1:47:48] the next audience.

[1:47:49] >> Thank you very much. Thank you very

[1:47:50] much, Mayor. I appreciate that and I I

[1:47:52] agree with you on that that point. And

[1:47:54] I'm now I'm gonna I'm g shift Todd to

[1:47:57] the other side of that spectrum. Uh, and

[1:48:00] first of all, shout out to Nick on his

[1:48:02] work over the last six months or so.

[1:48:04] I've had a number of interactions with

[1:48:06] Nick and and your staff and it's been wonderful. On the other side

[1:48:10] of the house is I'd like to I'm looking

[1:48:12] at trying to remove some of the people

[1:48:14] that are in the system and how we can

[1:48:16] help them out that are on probably on

[1:48:18] the higher

[1:48:20] uh less needs side of the house. And

[1:48:23] that's the micro shelters. And I've had

[1:48:25] a lot about interactions with Nick on

[1:48:27] the micro shelters. have a lot of uh

[1:48:29] encouragement and also a lot of interest

[1:48:31] in in putting micro shelters in other

[1:48:33] places of of Utah. And I really want to

[1:48:36] continue on that effort that's taking

[1:48:39] the ones that don't need as much help,

[1:48:41] but if they just have one small space,

[1:48:43] then they can get out of the system and

[1:48:44] quickly move on and provide more time

[1:48:47] and effort for others that need the help

[1:48:49] uh to to get that help. So, I'd really

[1:48:52] love to pick your brains more and work

[1:48:54] with Nick on promoting those micro

[1:48:57] shelters and how we can spread those

[1:48:59] around the the state.

[1:49:02] You said it, you said it perfectly and I I'll call you councilman, but I always

[1:49:06] want to call you coach um because I was

[1:49:09] a lacrosse player too at but um so so

[1:49:13] what what Councilman Dugan outlined and

[1:49:15] if you're interested in coming to see it

[1:49:17] uh let me know or let any of my staff

[1:49:19] know and we'll touch base with

[1:49:20] Councilman Dugan staff. The micro

[1:49:23] shelters are are a great example of of

[1:49:25] success. Um there's a there's a a

[1:49:29] spectrum of individuals who are staying

[1:49:32] at the micro shelters. Some it is uh

[1:49:35] kind of their their their point where

[1:49:38] they enter the system. Um and for others

[1:49:41] who as Councilman Digan said, you know,

[1:49:44] they're they're kind of other side of

[1:49:46] that spectrum where they're

[1:49:50] income but but they're being priced out

[1:49:52] of the market. Um there's actually uh as

[1:49:56] we're bringing these new units online,

[1:49:58] it's uh we're going to be able to have

[1:50:00] some individuals stay there for longer

[1:50:02] because they want to. That's that's the

[1:50:04] safe environment that they bring. Um

[1:50:07] these are essentially very small modular

[1:50:10] um homes and it's a very low impact to

[1:50:14] the community. Uh this project that

[1:50:17] Councilman Dugan has championed is under

[1:50:20] the freeway on the on the west side of

[1:50:23] downtown and you would never know it.

[1:50:26] All of you have probably driven past it

[1:50:27] a hundred times and it's a it's very low

[1:50:30] impact to the community. It's managed

[1:50:32] very well. It's managed by that one is

[1:50:35] managed by Switch Point and and

[1:50:37] Councilman to your point about where

[1:50:39] we're headed on this um I actually got a

[1:50:43] one of my first messages in the office

[1:50:45] is Iron County um is looking to

[1:50:49] replicate the project that you've

[1:50:50] championed in Salt Lake City. So we do

[1:50:53] think that this is a replicable model.

[1:50:55] it fits a key need for many uh in the in

[1:50:58] the population and we can do it very

[1:51:01] cost-e effectively and with a

[1:51:02] significantly lower impact to the

[1:51:05] community than say uh a low barrier

[1:51:07] homeless shelter or something like that.

[1:51:09] So we presented that to the executive

[1:51:12] appropriations committee along with the

[1:51:14] um workforce services appropriations

[1:51:16] committee and that was reflected in our

[1:51:19] appropriations that were allotted to us

[1:51:22] for pillar 2. A large part of that was

[1:51:24] for the expansion of these these

[1:51:26] innovative projects. So, thank you for

[1:51:28] bringing it forward and and we're

[1:51:29] certainly uh we're certainly tracking

[1:51:31] that closely.

[1:51:32] >> Thank you very much.

[1:51:35] >> Question.

[1:51:36] >> We got one more question. Um Tyler, I

[1:51:38] don't want to put you on the spot, but

[1:51:40] could you let us know kind of what

[1:51:41] things are looking like in that April to

[1:51:44] July time frame right now of funding

[1:51:47] coming online on July one, but your

[1:51:49] response kind of beginning to ramp in

[1:51:51] April?

[1:51:52] Certainly. So, what what Molly's

[1:51:54] referencing is over the past couple of

[1:51:57] years, there was some legislation that

[1:51:59] passed that allowed homeless shelters to

[1:52:02] go above and beyond their permits for

[1:52:05] occupancy because of the need for the

[1:52:08] extreme cold in the winter and and it

[1:52:12] was called winter response. And then

[1:52:13] beyond that, there was a code blue that

[1:52:15] I know you're all very familiar with.

[1:52:17] Well, there was funding that was

[1:52:20] appropriated by the Office of Homeless

[1:52:22] Services

[1:52:25] to help provide these costs for winter

[1:52:29] response.

[1:52:30] That funding was funded with one-time

[1:52:33] money. And so it was never ongoing

[1:52:35] funding um for winter response. And also

[1:52:39] what happened is that winter response

[1:52:41] then turned into spring, summer, fall,

[1:52:44] and then winter again. So, it was

[1:52:46] essentially held pretty consistent over

[1:52:48] the past couple of years. Well, as Molly

[1:52:51] mentioned, all of that funding is coming

[1:52:53] to a close on April 30th, and there's

[1:52:57] 687 beds that are currently propped up

[1:53:00] by that one-time funding that's set to

[1:53:02] expire. So, we have new legislative

[1:53:05] appropriations that come in on January,

[1:53:08] excuse me, July 1st. And um so, the

[1:53:12] question is, how do we navigate this?

[1:53:14] Um, there's a there's a couple of

[1:53:16] different questions at play and I don't

[1:53:18] want to bore you with the details, but

[1:53:20] we're really looking hard at the cost

[1:53:23] effectiveness of every dollar that we're

[1:53:25] spending. Um, the short of it is we want

[1:53:30] to invest in long-term solutions. We

[1:53:33] want to invest in the life saving

[1:53:35] shelter. Um, but at the same time, we

[1:53:38] the number that it's at, which is about

[1:53:39] a million dollars extra per month, is

[1:53:41] not quite sustainable. So, what we're

[1:53:45] working on in our office is we're trying

[1:53:47] to find some funding to bridge us from

[1:53:50] April 30th to July 1st. We're still

[1:53:54] shaking all the couch cush cushions and trying to find every dollar and cent

[1:53:59] that we can for this situation. And

[1:54:02] we're also going to be deploying uh

[1:54:04] essentially mobile case management. So,

[1:54:07] at the West Valley Overflow Shelter,

[1:54:09] West Valley, I just want to shout I

[1:54:12] don't know if West Valley's in the room.

[1:54:13] I just want to give them a big shout

[1:54:14] out. They have stepped up in a huge way.

[1:54:17] Um, West Valley has been a a a real

[1:54:20] blessing to the system by standing up a

[1:54:23] shelter and and and serving uh about 200

[1:54:27] people every single day. So, just take

[1:54:31] West Valley Overflow shelter for

[1:54:33] example, because they are building the

[1:54:36] plane in the air, if you will, they

[1:54:38] don't have case management. So clients

[1:54:40] that go there, um it's a it truly is

[1:54:43] emergency shelter and the goal in Utah's

[1:54:46] explicit goal of homelessness is to move

[1:54:48] people on from homelessness. So we're

[1:54:51] going to try and bridge with the

[1:54:52] funding, but then we're also going to

[1:54:54] try and bridge with case management to

[1:54:56] do a full scope review of all the beds

[1:55:00] that are currently online in the system

[1:55:02] where they exist. And then we also want

[1:55:05] to help people exit um and go into those

[1:55:09] beds. So if it's a drug treatment bed,

[1:55:11] if it's a housing voucher, if it's

[1:55:13] mental health, if it's a rapid rehousing

[1:55:16] uh or permanent supportive housing bed,

[1:55:18] we want to make sure that we're

[1:55:19] utilizing all of those spots and and and

[1:55:21] doing and doing that essentially taking

[1:55:24] case management on the road and helping

[1:55:26] people find these exits. So um that's what we're looking at. We are uh

[1:55:32] presenting kind of the initial piece of

[1:55:35] the um initial piece of the puzzle

[1:55:38] tomorrow at the homeless services board

[1:55:40] meeting. I'm going to share a little bit

[1:55:42] more in depth about what we're seeking

[1:55:44] to do. Um but it's an all hands-on deck

[1:55:47] effort. So, we're we're seeing what

[1:55:49] money the state can bring to bear. And

[1:55:51] then if cities or counties or

[1:55:53] philanthropic partners are inclined to support this effort as well, uh we we

[1:55:58] would welcome that as we're really

[1:55:59] trying to avert what Molly described as

[1:56:02] going from 687 to zero. And what that

[1:56:05] would do for our for our system as a

[1:56:07] whole. So, it's a tough challenge. It

[1:56:09] wasn't what I wanted to hear the first

[1:56:11] um 48 hours I walked into the office. A

[1:56:14] new crisis to deal with. Um, but I can't

[1:56:16] look we we can't look back. We can only

[1:56:18] look forward. And so this is a

[1:56:20] opportunity we've been working with our

[1:56:22] cities, our service providers, and and I'll tell you what, Mayor Bradshaw

[1:56:27] kind of nailed it earlier as I was

[1:56:28] listening to your meeting. There is a

[1:56:31] big um big overlap of people who are

[1:56:34] committed, who want to help, and we're

[1:56:36] going to we're going to build that

[1:56:37] teamwork. So um that's that's kind of

[1:56:40] the status update right now, Molly. And

[1:56:42] hopefully as we continue on, we'll we'll

[1:56:44] be able to fill in more detail as we go.

[1:56:47] >> Thank you so much.

[1:56:50] >> Hey, thank you so much. And um you know,

[1:56:53] we look we really look forward to

[1:56:55] partnering with you and in this new role

[1:56:58] and um we'll work to be as supportive as

[1:57:03] we can be and make sure we give you good

[1:57:04] feedback and good people to be part of

[1:57:06] your work group. So we'll plan to

[1:57:08] hopefully see you in St. George in

[1:57:10] April. Um, if you decide you can't make

[1:57:13] it down, we'll forgive you, but you're

[1:57:16] definitely invited if you make it down.

[1:57:19] >> Well, thank you, Mayor Bradshaw, and

[1:57:20] thank you to the whole team and to all

[1:57:22] our uh great city leaders that are here

[1:57:24] today. Uh, it's always been a pleasure

[1:57:26] working with you on Capitol Hill, and

[1:57:28] hope to continue building those

[1:57:29] partnerships. So, I'm going to text uh

[1:57:31] Molly. I'll text Molly my my new email

[1:57:34] address and make sure you have my cell

[1:57:35] phone. Feel free to disseminate that

[1:57:37] however is appropriate. So, but

[1:57:39] seriously, thanks again and excited to

[1:57:41] keep uh keep the momentum rolling.

[1:57:44] >> So much.

[1:57:47] >> Thanks, Tyler. We'll be in touch. Thanks

[1:57:49] for the time today. Now, we're we're at

[1:57:51] two o'clock and we just saw that data.

[1:57:54] League members stick with meetings even

[1:57:55] if they

[1:57:57] >> That was not the take away. Remember,

[1:58:02] » I will be done by

[1:58:05] three more minutes. continue to know the

[1:58:06] camera and I were right outside was like

[1:58:08] look at your agenda and he's like I can

[1:58:09] do this in three minutes

[1:58:11] >> starting now. So thank you thanks to the lead team most of the preparation

[1:58:16] for today's meeting as you saw came from

[1:58:17] other league members along thank you

[1:58:20] very much for the excellent discussion

[1:58:22] and presentation today just to wrap the

[1:58:24] legislative piece of mention two quick

[1:58:26] conversations I had with two legislators

[1:58:27] this or this session and one legislator

[1:58:31] told me in the morning that he was going

[1:58:33] to vote for a bill that the league

[1:58:34] opposed

[1:58:35] and that afternoon in committee he voted

[1:58:37] against it when I asked him why he said

[1:58:39] my mayor called me and I can't say no to

[1:58:43] my man.

[1:58:44] >> Okay, I'm going to share that from the

[1:58:46] stage at midyear, but I'm not going to

[1:58:49] share his identity because I told him I

[1:58:51] wanted, but I think that's a very

[1:58:52] powerful example of the collective

[1:58:54] strength of the league. Um, second, the

[1:58:57] legislator standing next to him ordered

[1:58:59] that and me and said, "You guys do a

[1:59:02] better job of anybody at mobilizing your

[1:59:04] people." And I said, "Well, thank you."

[1:59:06] And that was a freshman, so this was his

[1:59:08] second his second year. So he doesn't

[1:59:10] have all the institutional it's just

[1:59:11] what he's seen the last two years and

[1:59:13] was really impressed with how we

[1:59:14] mobilize our members. So when we meet in

[1:59:17] April you'll see the reference here um

[1:59:20] to the board objectives and for those of

[1:59:21] you who are new to the board in the

[1:59:23] April meeting that's when we have

[1:59:25] everybody in person prior to midyear the

[1:59:26] day before the midyear conference we

[1:59:28] break the board up into small workg

[1:59:29] groupoups for small periods of time and

[1:59:32] do deep dives on different topics. So

[1:59:34] we'll for sure do that that talks

[1:59:35] strategically about local administrative

[1:59:37] advisor and there'll be other topics

[1:59:39] we'll hit as well. We saw some of them

[1:59:40] are listed here on the agenda because

[1:59:43] we're still working through where we

[1:59:44] need your direction and those small

[1:59:46] groups really bring out some really

[1:59:48] great discussion. So just be prepared uh

[1:59:51] for that for those of you who are new.

[1:59:53] That also helps inform the budget

[1:59:55] process. You approve the dues in January

[1:59:58] that makes up more than 60% of our

[2:00:00] revenue every year. The rest of it comes

[2:00:02] from primarily from sponsorships and

[2:00:04] then from from other event related fees.

[2:00:07] And then when you set the budget

[2:00:08] tenatively in May and final budget in

[2:00:10] June, it's really personnel events and

[2:00:13] then policy and communication

[2:00:14] priorities, some of which we talked

[2:00:16] about today with making sense of dollars

[2:00:18] and the property tax outreach. So we'll

[2:00:20] be building that out based on your

[2:00:22] feedback as we bring the budget back to

[2:00:24] you. Um if there are other thoughts

[2:00:26] about LPC, let Justin know. We had a

[2:00:28] really robust discussion, David. there

[2:00:29] other thoughts, please let him know and

[2:00:31] we may revisit that in April. We've also

[2:00:33] been trying to focus on our newly

[2:00:35] elected mayors and council members

[2:00:36] around the state. So, I mentioned this

[2:00:37] the January meeting that council member

[2:00:39] Hinton hosted a meeting along with Mayor

[2:00:41] Bimbo in southwestern Utah with a bunch

[2:00:43] of newly electeds. Um, council member

[2:00:45] Tolley in Park City hosted an event for

[2:00:47] newly electeds. Then to MAG where over

[2:00:50] half of the mayors in MAG are new.

[2:00:52] Molly's going to be um in the UN basin

[2:00:55] on April 1st for their event because

[2:00:57] every mayor in the UN basin is new. Oh,

[2:00:59] he's will be some. Who's going to be

[2:01:01] there?

[2:01:01] >> Jared will be

[2:01:02] >> Jared. Sorry. Sorry. This I was out.

[2:01:03] Jared McKenna will be there. Then I'm

[2:01:05] doing an event in Monaceel on April 13th

[2:01:08] because every mayor in San Juan County

[2:01:10] is new and most of their council members

[2:01:13] doing that event. Uh we're also going to

[2:01:15] be at the R six event in May and we're

[2:01:18] in conversations with Serta to do an

[2:01:19] event uh later this year. And then we

[2:01:22] also have conferences in the next few

[2:01:23] weeks with the city managers, city

[2:01:25] attorneys, the treasurers, government

[2:01:26] finance officers, planners, and others

[2:01:28] as we're trying to do our spring

[2:01:30] training and our spring training

[2:01:31] webinars kick off this week. And so we

[2:01:35] are uh even though the session just

[2:01:37] ended, we are out and about and it's a

[2:01:39] again I really appreciate the

[2:01:41] flexibility of the family leave and want

[2:01:43] to thank our team for um stepping up and doing some phenomenal work over the

[2:01:47] last couple of weeks and then the next

[2:01:48] couple weeks um to go. If you have other

[2:01:51] thoughts about potential discussion

[2:01:53] topics in April, please let us know. And

[2:01:55] if you have other thoughts about the

[2:01:56] session, please let us know. Uh we've

[2:01:59] sent out the newsletters. Uh so there

[2:02:01] was a few commentator posted on that

[2:02:03] front, but otherwise this has been a

[2:02:05] terrific meeting. We appreciate the

[2:02:06] time. President Bradshaw, I'll turn it

[2:02:07] back to you.

[2:02:08] >> That was really impressive. I should

[2:02:09] have started a timer. I didn't there.

[2:02:12] Yeah, I'll give it to him. Yeah.

[2:02:15] >> Three minutes.

[2:02:17] >> Oh wow.

[2:02:20] That's why nobody likes lawyers.

[2:02:25] » I enjoy spending time with this. I have

[2:02:28] so we're still a little punchy after

[2:02:29] session.

[2:02:29] >> I have missed you uh you guys you know

[2:02:32] daily for hours on it.

[2:02:36] Okay. Uh so we reached the end of our

[2:02:38] agenda unless there is any other

[2:02:42] if not then I look forward to seeing you

[2:02:44] all in St. George. Christa, I hope you

[2:02:47] have arranged for the weather to be nice

[2:02:49] but not too hot since we're already

[2:02:51] experiencing what we expect from Maple

[2:02:53] and St. George on the Wasach front.

[2:02:56] >> We're in process.

[2:02:57] >> Please, please hold it in the 70s.

[2:03:06] » Temperature no greater than 75 degrees

[2:03:12] » with an evening rainstorm like last

[2:03:14] year.

[2:03:15] >> That's right. Yes,

[2:03:16] >> that's a cool lightning storm,

[2:03:18] >> but not until after we finish bike ride.

[2:03:20] >> After the bike ride,

[2:03:21] >> say before everyone exits, bravo to our

[2:03:24] league staff and all of you that that

[2:03:27] were up on the hill spending so much

[2:03:29] time. Thank you on behalf of all of us

[2:03:32] out in the hinterland.

[2:03:35] >> Thank you. Yes, our staff did an amazing

[2:03:37] job. So, round of applause for them.

[2:03:42] And uh with that uh I will entertain a

[2:03:45] motion to adjourn and please supplement

[2:03:47] that with the directive that Cameron go

[2:03:50] home and finish his leave with the

[2:03:53] kiddos.

[2:03:54] >> So moved.

[2:03:55] >> Second.

[2:03:55] >> All right, we have a motion to second.

[2:03:57] All in favor, please say I.

[2:03:59] >> I.

[2:04:01] >> Thank you everyone. Thanks for the time.

[2:04:03] Thank you in discussion.

Board of Directors Meeting March 23, 2026

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