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Good evening. Please stand for the
pledge to the flag.
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic of it stand
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with liberty and justice for all.
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» Good evening. Thank you for joining us
this evening.
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So,
um,
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for those in the audience here, we put
the air conditioner on. It's going to
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take a couple minutes, but it's going to
kick in soon. So, I'm sorry, but it
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should be alleviated pretty soon.
So, we're going to start with the
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approval of the minutes, which is a
motion approving August 12th, 2026
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minutes of the regular meeting of the
town board. Can I have a motion?
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» So, moved. Thank you, Matt. And
seconded.
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» Seconded.
>> Thank you, Glenn. Um, any discussion?
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No.
>> Okay. All in favor? I.
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» Any opposed?
>> Thank you. As carried.
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» We don't have any bid openings, but we
do have public hearings this evening.
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So, we're going to start with a public
hearing for consideration of the
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issuance of a vehicle service station
permit use special use per Okay. I don't
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know cuz my we had a printer issue
tonight. Do you have a a blank copy of
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the
>> Yeah,
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» my printer doesn't print the side. So, I
apologize. Let me read it again. So, the
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public hearing for consideration of the
issuance of vehicle service station
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special use permit regarding the
premises situated at 10 1016 Vestal
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Parkway East in the town of Vestal, New
York and being designated as Broom
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County Tax Map number 157.19-3-3.
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Okay. So, on this matter, um I'm going
to read the public notice first.
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So, a public notice was given um as
follows. Notice is hereby given that a
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public hearing will be held on August
26, 2026 at 6 p.m. for consideration of
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the issuance of vehicle service station
special use permit regarding the
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premises situated at 1016 Vestal Parkway
East in the town of Vestal, New York,
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and being designated as Broom County Tax
Map number 157.919-3-3.
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Please take further notice that the
environmental significance of said
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proposed permits will be reviewed by the
vestal town board of the town of Vestal
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incident 2 and is a part of said public
hearing. Therefore, pursuant to statute,
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the town board of the town of Vestal
will hold a public hearing in the town
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boardroom, Vestal Town Hall, 605 Vestal
Parkway West, Vestal, New York at the
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time of the hearing. All interested
persons will be heard and that was dated
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August 7th, 2026. and it was issued by
our town clerk Deborah Watts.
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Okay. So, we are going to open the
public section of the hearing. So, yes,
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» presentation
information before they
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» Okay. So, um well, we'll we can um
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include it as part of public hearing.
>> What?
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» Include it as part of the public hearing
because we don't normally schedule them
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and they weren't scheduled.
>> Okay. So, um
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» so we're going to open the public part
of the hearing, but we do have um
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somebody who's going to speak first and
that is a representative of uh the
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engine
I'm sorry.
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» Keystone engineering. Okay.
>> So, Keystone Engineering. Thank you. So,
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he is going to speak on with um details
on the project and then that whole and
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then if anybody who speaks after him
wants to reference what he says or ask
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him a question, you're welcome to do
that. Okay. So, thank you. Please. So,
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he has some diagrams, drawings, and
everything. So, he's going to make a
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short presentation um before we begin
with the questions. Okay. So, yes.
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» Um,
so yeah, the last time they showed us
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first and then kind of took or if you
want to just hold it and try and just
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show us and show the audience at the
same time, that's good too. The camera,
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we also do a video, so the camera is in
that direction as well.
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» Thank you.
>> Hi, my name is Matt Row. I'm with
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Keystone Associates. I'm representing
Germit Singh. Um we have a gas service
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station with a 6500 square foot
convenience store.
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Um
it is located there. Um we have gas
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tanks along the front northern side with
two entrances off of the Vestal Parkway
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East and one entrance out the back on
Walter L Road.
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Um, and there is also electric service
vehicle stations right there with
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a drive-thru on the east side.
>> You want to show that?
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» And then, um, the building is here with
the gas pumps up front along Vestal
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Parkway. Um, an entrance and an exit
onto Vestal Parkway.
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an entrance and exit onto Walter L Road
and a drive-thru on this side.
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» Thank you.
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» Thanks.
>> Okay.
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» Okay. So, it's open to members of the
audience, residents first. We do have
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certain rules. So, I'm just going to
read the rules first. Um,
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I'm just going to make it short. So,
basically, please just be respectful of
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everybody in the room. Okay. Um, we do
ask you to keep your comments to 3
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minutes. Um, and uh, we do ask you to
speak in entirety and if we or somebody
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else answers you, we're going to answer
you at the end of that time period.
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Okay? So if you have multiple questions,
ask them and then we'll respond
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afterwards. Okay. Would any any resident
like to speak first? Yes, please.
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Is it on? No.
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And you can bend it down a little bit if
you like to. Thank you.
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Okay.
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Thank you. Thank you.
>> Hello. My name is Jennifer Monahan. I am
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a resident of the Imperial Woods
neighborhood and I am here today, it
[7:09]
looks like, but joined by a lot of my
neighbors that ended up signing one of
[7:13]
our petitions uh specifically opposing a
gas station at 1016 Vestal Parkway East.
[7:18]
Um the neighborhood and I submitted two
notorized petitions to the town um
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regarding this. Both were received on
August 5th and one was updated and
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received today showing unanimous
opposition of all homeowners within
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residences zoned within 100 ft. Um, so I
wanted to speak today about the gas
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station and how it's going to affect our
neighborhood. From my research, I can't
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find a single other incident in the
entire town of Vestal where a gas
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station is within 50 ft of residential
homes, let alone 25 ft. And I'm saying
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25 ft because I went out and measured
and from Walter Road to my property at
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10:05 Imperial Woods Drive, it's 21
feet. That's all. And we're talking
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about a potentially 24hour 7-day a week
business here that's servicing thousands
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of customers, not hundreds, thousands,
drawing them off of a very heavy
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interstate parkway system in addition to
the university. And just speaking to
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this plan today that I'm seeing for the
very first time, I noticed the
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drive-thru is specifically facing the
residences on Walter Road, which I find
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to be very irresponsible. That canopy is
going to have to be zoned at least 16 ft
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off the ground and 247 lighting. Those
lights are going to come directly in my
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bedroom windows, my neighbors bedroom
windows, illuminating our decks, our
[8:36]
entire properties all night, 365 days a
year, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day.
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Also, the drive-through traffic it looks
like will be sweeping back there and
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looping out onto Walter Road, which is
massively disturbing because Walter Road
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has no curbs, no drainage, and is 21 ft
wide. There are not even sidewalks back
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there. It's a popular place for people
to walk their strollers and their dogs.
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If we are now competing with gas station
traffic, two cars coming at each other,
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opposing directions, no sidewalks, no
curbs, and it's 21 feet wide, and we
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have a lady with a baby and a dog. I
don't see how we're not going to have
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incidencies back there.
Um, I also wanted to speak to the fact
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the Vestal Town Code 24-385,
which governs vehicle service stations,
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specifically prohibits vehicle service
stations from being within 100 ft of a
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resident's district unless twothirds of
those uh homes approve it. I furnished
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the town unanimous opposition from all
homes within that 100 ft. It is signed
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and notorized that it is completely
opposed. Additionally, the town code
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says people within 500 feet can get a
vote if he gets 50% I have more than 50%
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of the people within 500 ft on the maps
I provided you. That's map two. um that
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also are in opposition. And I just want
to bring up again, I really hope you
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will protect our neighborhood because
we're talking about a 57 decel limit for
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a commercial property versus crossing
into a residential district that at
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night we can only have 50 dB of noise.
I'm also very concerned about water
[10:12]
runoff and drainage from the gas station
touching our properties. That's flat
[10:16]
land. I called my homeowners insurance
and if we had floods like in 2011 when
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massive properties were flooded, if gas
station runoff touches a wooden home, I
[10:24]
was told it would be condemned. So now
we're worried about condemning things in
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a time of climate change and we have
wildly fluctuating weather. I had one
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more big point to make today and that's
that um of the 52 people that signed my
[10:39]
petition, we pay 2,900
$290,148
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to this town and school district per
year. Just the 52 residents that signed
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the petition and it is a known fact that
gas stations can diminish home values by
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up to 16% to people within 500 ft. This
is documented and studied. It is online.
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Our own DEEC and um I can't think of the
exact person that published that, but it
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is online if you literally Google
governmental studies.
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» Okay. I'm I'm just going to have to ask
you to wrap it up. Okay.
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» Yep. And the last thing I wanted to say
is that um it's this is going to
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completely change the neighborhood of
the character the character of the
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neighborhood. This is going to make it
feel like we're on the Parkway. There is
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no amount of barrier or anything that
you could do to protect our properties
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from this gas station noise, lighting,
and contaminants of xylene, benzene, you
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name it. So, I hope you vote to help us
out and protect the neighborhood. Thank
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you.
>> Thank you very much. Does any other
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resident wish to speak?
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» Still on then? Uh, William Mitchell,
Imperial Woods Drive.
[11:52]
Uh this is the first time seeing the map
where there is where they're showing the
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uh exit out onto Walter and also the
first time I've heard that there's also
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going to be a drive-thru there. Uh as
mentioned before, this is a quiet
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residential neighborhood. Uh there's no
shortcuts to get to anywhere else. The
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only people coming up into the
neighborhood are the people who live
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there. Uh this would completely change
that. Walter is a narrow road uh fronted
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or rather backed by uh several houses.
It it the traffic would become
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horrendous. You might as well put on the
parkway. There's no need for a gas
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station there. Uh we had one on that
side of the parkway down by the Morabido
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which went out of business uh for lack
of customers. Uh the same thing could
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happen here. Uh as far as the drive-thru
part, I have no idea what they're going
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to be doing with the drive-thru. you
going to be selling alcohol through the
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drive-thru or is that just going to be
sandwiches also in addition to the
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normal uh gas station stuff? Uh 24 hours
worth of lighting is going to go right
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into my front uh my front yard into my
kids bedroom windows.
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The whole idea uh is a farce. There's
absolutely no reason to have a gas
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station there. Uh, does the person who
owns this property also own I believe
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it's 917 Imperial Woods
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» on Beachwood.
>> Beachwood.
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» Okay.
Imperial Woods Drive. Yeah. Yeah. The
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97.
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» Pardon?
>> Uh, no. I I said I asked you could ask
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questions but uh if it is the same
person I have heard that it's the same
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person who owns 917 Imperial which was
diagonally across the street from me. Uh
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if that's
if the way he maintains his property is
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any indication of how he would maintain
that property if it is the same person
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then the place would become
an eyesore quickly. Uh
[14:03]
I ask you to vote against this. do not
approve the waiver. It's not what the
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people who moved in that neighborhood
want. It's not why we bought houses in
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that neighborhood. Uh
they're finally getting a large number
[14:18]
of children back into that area after
the boomers kind of moved out some. It's
[14:24]
not the kind of environment want the
kids around. Um, and especially after
[14:27]
you brought up the concerns with the
hotel there, we don't need part two
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where now the residents are going to
have quick, easy access to beer and
[14:39]
other kinds of spirits. Um, thank you.
>> Thank you. Does Would any other resident
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like to speak?
thing.
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» Um, so there's there's another woman who
wants to speak first and then at the end
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we can let you let wrap it up a little
bit. Um, ma'am, did you want to speak?
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» We can get the microphone to you. Glen,
would you mind?
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» That's not good.
>> We we can get we can get the microphone
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to you.
Thank you.
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» We have lived on Imperial Woods Drive
for over 50 years. And when we moved in,
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that was the place to live. I mean, you
know, now there's other places and it's
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not as desirable as it was, but I walk
my dog every single day down Walter L
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Road with a walker. And that road is not
kept up. It is broken up. There's
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potholes in it. And if you did this,
who's going to be responsible for
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keeping that road up? cuz it is a mess.
Now, I don't know if any of you have
[15:49]
walked down it or driven down it, but it
I mean I have no place else to walk.
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Like you said, we have no no walk or uh
sidewalks in our neighborhood. So, I
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walk down there and I've done it for 50
years with baby strollers, dogs, and I'd
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like to know who would keep up that road
so it is in good condition. And I'm not
[16:14]
for that, but I just if it does go
through, I'd like to know who's
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responsible for the road.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um, can I just ask you
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one more thing? Um, and it was my fault
because I didn't say it. Traditionally,
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we just ask everybody to say their name
and where they live. And you just want
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to say best, it's fine to
>> Okay. I'm Kathleen Wilcox. We live at
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1024 Imperial Woods Drive for 52 years.
>> Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
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» Okay. And sir,
>> thank you. And sir, did you want to
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talk?
>> Okay.
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» Yeah. I
Okay, thank you. I think there's another
[16:54]
gentleman behind that, too.
>> Richard Wilcox at 24 Imperial Woods
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Drive.
>> Thank you.
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» And I can only second what everybody has
said so far tonight. What is the name of
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the gas station? What is Who is it going
to be? Is that a secret or
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» um Well, I we ask you to speak for three
minutes and I'm going to see if I can
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look in the paper.
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» Okay. We just Is that Did you want to
say more stuff because we traditionally
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we ask you to speak until you're done
and then we going to try to any then we
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answer any questions or Okay.
>> try to give an answer afterwards.
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Another question is how many property
owners are there in this 500 foot
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radius?
How many?
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» 40. All right.
>> Okay. Once again, please just speak to
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the board.
>> And are there plans for
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fencing or what have you to
kind of screen off this if it goes
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through?
I know that's a question.
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» Okay. Can you repeat that last one, sir?
>> Are the plans for screening to
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» screen?
>> Okay. Um, thank you. Let me just see if
[18:18]
I can answer them. And we don't have a
name in a little bit. Do we?
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» I mean, we can have discussion
>> things after all hearing just to make
[18:28]
comments, make presentations.
>> No, I know. But I don't have a problem
[18:32]
with it.
>> I mean, the applicant's name is G. He's
[18:35]
president.
>> Y
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» question.
>> Okay.
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» I don't know.
>> Okay. Um, so
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we received a letter from a resident
today. Um just before we get to to the
[18:57]
other comment, uh we received a letter
from a resident today and in the answer
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to the letter, I'll give you what the
town engineer said is that the
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particulars of the project, including
screening, um will be decided by the
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planning board. This is before it gets
to the the full the final stages of the
[19:13]
planning board in which those
particulars including entrances and exit
[19:18]
to to um to streets. All the particulars
about what driveway is where and
[19:24]
screening and all those issues get
decided and finalized at the planning
[19:28]
board. Uh and no project goes forward
before it gets finalized at the planning
[19:32]
board to the satisfaction of the
planning board members. So it would be
[19:36]
addressed at that point. So, um, we
wouldn't have an answer for you in terms
[19:40]
of the name of of the thing at the end
after the residents have pro spoken. If
[19:47]
anybody that represents the company or
the owner wishes to speak and answer
[19:51]
some of those questions, we will ask
them to if they want to. Okay. Does any
[19:56]
other resident wish to speak?
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» Hello, my name is Jim Evanitzki. I lived
with 1,000 Imperial Woods Drive and I've
[20:09]
been there 25 years and I remember when
that car dealership went in next to the
[20:16]
California grill between the California
grill and the motel. They came around
[20:20]
and we signed a waiver that they were
going to maintain that fence on the back
[20:25]
side of their property to stop all that
light from shining. Now there's no fence
[20:30]
at all. I'm surprised more of the
residents on Walter haven't complained
[20:36]
about that because that was one of the
reasons they got the waiver to open that
[20:41]
gas station and keep it lit up at night.
Thank you very much for allowing me to
[20:45]
speak.
>> Thank you. Thank you, Deborah. I
[20:48]
appreciate it. I think there's somebody
else. Is there?
[20:53]
» Okay.
[21:00]
» Okay. Thank you. Does any other resident
wish to speak? Okay, she's she's going
[21:04]
to come up.
>> Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Deborah.
[21:14]
» Okay. All right. I am shaking like a
leaf because this is
[21:20]
beyond wrong what they that proposal is
going to do to our neighborhood. It's
[21:25]
that's my backyard. I don't know if any
of you would like that in your backyard.
[21:31]
It's like
it's just going to ruin the whole
[21:35]
neighborhood and it's going to
depreciate every single one of our homes
[21:38]
along that way and it's going to
gradually move up and more and more
[21:42]
everybody's home is going to be become
less and less as valuable as it is now.
[21:47]
I'm getting all choked up because it's
this is horrible. I mean, look at me.
[21:53]
It's not a good thing. and she made me
do it the last two times and I'm doing
[21:59]
it on my own this time and um I just
please please don't vote for this. It's
[22:05]
just going to ruin our neighborhood in
every way imaginable. I mean somebody's
[22:10]
going to get hurt. I mean we're going to
have people walking down from that
[22:14]
motel. You've got homeless people in the
trail, the rail trail, that are going to
[22:20]
come over to get alcohol at night all
times to get warm during the winter.
[22:25]
Somebody's going to get hurt. And then
we've got people that we don't even know
[22:29]
that are going to come into our
neighborhoods. And not that I I don't
[22:32]
care if there's a business coming into
our neighborhood, but just not a gas
[22:36]
station, not a 24-hour gas station.
That's just ridiculous. I mean, in every
[22:41]
way
I can even think. And I don't that's all
[22:45]
I can say. And please guys, don't do it
to us. Please,
[22:50]
» ma'am, can you tell us your name?
>> Oh, my name's Antonet Kennedy. I live at
[22:55]
1013 Imperial Ridge Drive, directly
behind that monstrosity.
[23:00]
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[23:02]
» Um, does any other member of the public
wish to speak? Yes.
[23:08]
» I'll repeat everything. Peter, I know
this guy.
[23:14]
» Peter Dwend on Magnolia Drive. Um, I
guess I'd join everybody's uh opposition
[23:20]
to whether this fits within the nature
and character of the neighborhood and
[23:24]
the effect that it would have upon the
people that live there. Um, I was just
[23:27]
wondering if some of the predicate
conditions have been met. Specifically,
[23:32]
there was supposed to be a sworn
notorized statement provided today
[23:36]
would be 50% of the properties within uh
what is it 500 ft and because it's
[23:43]
within 100 ft of residential properties,
I think 2/3 of the eight properties that
[23:47]
are within 100 ft. So, I don't know if
those were provided today to the board.
[23:52]
» Yeah. Yeah. I think Peter um on the
second question, I don't know about the
[23:56]
first the second question about um
whether there's a a predicate
[24:02]
requirement that um the uh uh that no
service station shall be built within
[24:09]
100 ft of a residential district. Um
there's a there's two ways to interpret
[24:16]
that. What?
>> Really? Okay. All right. Um can you hear
[24:21]
me better? Okay. So, so we have put that
question um to the ZBA who provides um
[24:29]
interpretation
uh for the benefit of the board because
[24:33]
as you probably know there's two ways to
interpret that. Um, one way to interpret
[24:38]
that and it's elsewhere in the code
about situating uh, a station um,
[24:44]
[clears throat] is to measure from the
station the location of the station
[24:50]
itself, the building to the residential
district. The map that has been provided
[24:55]
by Keystone Associates, I can't see it
from here, but I looked at it briefly
[25:00]
like when you did when you came in here.
Sure. And it look just to check that
[25:04]
measurement and it looks like it's about
115 feet uh away from if you do measure
[25:09]
from the building to the residential
district it looks like it's about 115 ft
[25:13]
to the road and then I don't know how
wide the road is the road might be 20 ft
[25:17]
or something so it's it's probably like
125 ft from the residential district. Um
[25:22]
the other way to measure these um it
would be from
[25:26]
uh property line to property line which
it's the same property line so it's zero
[25:29]
um and that definitely would be affected
but um there's there's definitely uh um
[25:36]
there's definitely two schools of
thought that have been presented. Um,
[25:41]
this board uh I I'm told intends to uh
seek uh uh an opinion from uh the ZBA uh
[25:50]
who provides uh that kind of an opinion
not only for ZBA uh matters but also
[25:55]
matters before the town board. Okay. I
had the same thought earlier today and
[26:00]
did a little research to try to find the
same thing. Elsewhere in that same
[26:04]
section of code, it does talk about it
coming from the the property line
[26:08]
itself. And for this particular plan,
there's really no differentiation
[26:12]
between the actual physical footprint of
the structure and the business work
[26:17]
that's to be done, particularly because
there's going to be a drive-through
[26:19]
window, an overhang, whatever business
is going to happen behind it. Uh, but
[26:25]
» that's a that's a reasonable um uh
point. If there's improvements behind
[26:29]
the uh building, that's another
consideration. As far as elsewhere in
[26:33]
the code, um I mean the there is a
measurement standard that's in that
[26:39]
section of the code. It pertains to um
being within 250. You're not supposed to
[26:44]
be within a station is not supposed to
be within 250 ft of a school or a
[26:48]
church. Um and the measurement standard
that's put in there is from the building
[26:53]
itself to the so there's some precedent
for that measurement uh because it's
[26:57]
contained elsewhere in the uh u and
that's not to say I mean as you know
[27:01]
that doesn't mean that there's a special
permit approval by this board. This
[27:04]
board has uh discretion but it's a it's
a it's a very relevant factor how that
[27:10]
measurement takes place. But the must
part that's in the code was that today a
[27:15]
notorized statement with 50% of the
properties within 500 feet that they
[27:20]
have their ascension to or approval of
the project. And it seems to me if that
[27:24]
wasn't provided today that they haven't
met the predicate conditions under your
[27:27]
own terms and code. I don't know how you
would approve it uh outside of the
[27:31]
finding or the necessary finding that it
somehow meets the uh the well-being and
[27:37]
doesn't devalue the neighboring
properties.
[27:40]
That's all. Thanks.
[27:47]
» Well, I mean, just to answer Peter's
question, uh these these are before the
[27:52]
these are things that that are going to
be uh um looked into before the board
[27:56]
votes, and it will probably not be
tonight. It'll probably be um when uh
[28:02]
the board is an opportunity to uh listen
to all of the comments that are made
[28:07]
tonight uh such as yours and uh hear
from the ZBA, get their opinion
[28:13]
[clears throat] and um uh have an
opportunity to review the maps and
[28:16]
whatnot. Um so that's what that's what
tonight is for and um and then a
[28:22]
decision will be made and we'll make
sure that um that your questions are
[28:26]
addressed.
So I have a question. Can you hear me?
[28:32]
Sorry.
Um so uh number one um
[28:39]
does it come back to the town board
after the planning board after the
[28:45]
zoning board? Sorry.
>> Yes. So um
[28:49]
so the procedure um the supervisor is
asking specifically about the procedure.
[28:54]
Um there's kind of a dual track um to in
order to get a service station uh
[29:01]
approved. Um the applicant
[clears throat] would have to um have to
[29:07]
seek approval, seek a a special uh use
permit from this board, from the town
[29:14]
board. Okay. Um and the applicant would
also have to get uh through the planning
[29:21]
board. the planning board uh is more
concerned with the site plan, the
[29:26]
buffering. Sometimes the planning board
says, "No, we don't like that back exit
[29:30]
off of the uh onto Walter." You can
maybe the planning board says, "Uh yeah,
[29:36]
if you're up, you know, if you're up
against the parkway and you've got an
[29:39]
appropriate buffer uh behind the
station, that's fine. Uh maybe they have
[29:45]
comments on drive-thru activity. maybe
they have they have that those types of
[29:49]
mitigating um uh considerations when
it's before the planning board. But um
[29:57]
so if it were to go to the planning
board first, the planning board would be
[30:00]
able to approve a site plan. But in this
particular case under the code, if it's
[30:05]
a if it's a vehicle service station, uh
the planning the planning board doesn't
[30:10]
have the last word. The last word would
be from the town board and the town
[30:14]
board has the authority to issue the
special use permit. Also, under uh if
[30:20]
they if they deem it appropriate under
conditions such as buffering conditions
[30:25]
and lighting conditions and hours of
operation and all that stuff. So,
[30:30]
there's two boards that are relevant
here. it's the town board um and the
[30:34]
special use permit has to be um obtained
or it can't go forward. And the um the
[30:40]
planning board and the site plan has to
be uh approved as well. And uh and and
[30:46]
both boards have the ability to impose
uh conditions to protect the uh the
[30:52]
neighborhood conditions. Um and uh and
the town board in particular has the
[30:58]
discretion to either approve with
conditions or deny the application.
[31:05]
» Take the better one.
[31:10]
» Okay. In summary, um just to sum it up a
little bit,
[31:16]
» ma'am, did Yes. Do you want to Oh, can
we get her the
[31:22]
» Oh, I'm sorry, sir.
>> It's quitter.
[31:23]
» I apologize.
You know, right down the street next to
[31:28]
the where your proposed gas station in
is a motel. And I read in the paper, as
[31:35]
any of you could have, in that motel,
there was a guy with a motorcycle and a
[31:40]
gas can full of gasoline. And if there's
a gas station right next to that motel,
[31:47]
who knows? And the Indicop Motel, if you
any remember, was recently burned down
[31:54]
by an arsonist and several people were
killed. And so that's another concern,
[32:00]
having a gas station right next to a
motel and that houses homeless people
[32:08]
and that kind of parent uh clientele.
Okay. Thank you, sir. I I apologize,
[32:17]
» please.
>> My name is Kaspar Rodriguez. I actually
[32:21]
live on Walter Road 904. And um I've
been there 40 years since I was a
[32:26]
teenager myself. And even even now, all
the traffic that's been added to that
[32:32]
street, we often have semiis have to
back up on the road because they can't
[32:36]
clear each other in the width. And a lot
of the people speed down that road when
[32:40]
they come down again out of work or just
cheat cheating the parkway around to get
[32:45]
coming out of California Grill. So, and
my grandkids I like my grandkids were at
[32:50]
my house this weekend and I was like
stay away from the road because there's
[32:53]
just a traffic so crazy nowadays even to
add this to it. We we just want to
[32:58]
register our concerns and we are we are
not interested in having that in that
[33:02]
facility there. Okay.
>> Thank you very much.
[33:04]
» Thank you.
>> Uh okay. We're gonna we're gonna have to
[33:09]
ask keep it to the one thing.
>> Just one thing. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead.
[33:12]
» I just wanted to make one last comment.
It's Jennifer Monahan at Imperial Woods
[33:15]
Drive. Again, um the lot is zoned as C1.
That is resident. That is general
[33:20]
shopping. And when you are given
examples online of what is considered a
[33:25]
C1 property, you are given examples. It
has to seamlessly blend with the
[33:29]
neighborhood. That is what the law says.
And the examples given are barber shops,
[33:34]
bodeas, small convenience stores that
keep regular hours, and doctor's
[33:38]
offices. Nowhere does it ever mention a
24-hour gas station that can serve
[33:43]
thousands of customers. That's more
along the lines of a C8 or a B2 zoning
[33:48]
from my understanding. Those are heavy
industrial uses that New York State
[33:52]
usually gives to gas stations. So, a C1
property is an irresponsible and
[33:57]
inappropriate use in my opinion of that
land. Thank you. And lastly, we would
[34:02]
love development there. Just a good
neighbor that would not be 247 with
[34:06]
thousands of customers. Something that
would seamlessly blend with the
[34:09]
neighborhood would be appreciated.
>> Thank you. Okay, we're going to try to
[34:12]
limit to one one per person. Uh does any
other member any other Yes, sir.
[34:18]
Absolutely.
[34:26]
Um good evening members of the board,
members of the public. My name is Joe
[34:29]
Romani. I live at 593 Sequoia Lane in
the Imperial Woods area. My wife and
[34:34]
family have lived there 30 some odd
years. Um I just have to say that uh
[34:38]
listening to everyone who has both
factually and indeed even emotionally
[34:42]
spoken here tonight, I concur. This is
not the right fit for this neighborhood,
[34:47]
this is just going to change things and
not for the better. There's been enough
[34:52]
change in that area right now. And this
last gentleman who spoke, that's a very
[34:56]
good point. Cars come down Walter and
they they're not stopping for that stop
[35:00]
sign. They're blowing out and it's a
choice. When I come down uh airborne,
[35:05]
I've got to be careful. The folks on the
left coming out of the former uh Joanne
[35:08]
Fabrics parking lot failed to stop at
the stop sign and the other people do.
[35:12]
So, you increase the volume of traffic
there, um it's going to be a disaster. I
[35:18]
just think that uh you folks ought to
look at this very hard and very long and
[35:22]
very soularchingly. And uh I agree with
the folks who have spoken here. This is
[35:26]
not right this neighborhood. But thank
you all very much.
[35:28]
» Okay. Thank you. Does any other resident
wish to speak?
[35:35]
» Does it does a representative for um the
proposed business wish to speak?
[35:50]
» Good evening board members.
Uh can you hear me? I can hear you.
[35:56]
» Okay. So, I am the applicant of 1016
West Parkway East. Uh our main concern
[36:04]
is for the neighbors and that's why we
are here today to listen to them so we
[36:08]
can address the issues
and
[36:12]
I would like um little more time before
it gets voted on so we can address those
[36:19]
issues with our engineers and our
attorneys.
[36:23]
» Okay. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.
[36:25]
Um, okay. If is there anybody else that
wishes to speak?
[36:31]
Okay.
Okay. I'm going to just give me one
[36:35]
second. So, yes. So, we're I'm I'm going
to explain in a second. So, um we're
[36:40]
going to close the public hearing then
the open section of the public hearing.
[36:44]
And I just want to address it. I want to
summarize what um Dan Reynolds, our town
[36:47]
attorney, said. So, um, in number one, I
appreciate everybody being here this
[36:54]
evening.
Every member of the town board has heard
[36:58]
your opposition to the project, all of
your concerns. We understand it. Um, and
[37:04]
and we and we appreciate you coming
here. We have the petitions, both
[37:10]
versions of the petitions, um, in
consultation with our town attorney, um,
[37:15]
and in discussions with the residents up
until now. uh we were under the belief
[37:20]
that um that the that it was within the
100 ft. Um however, it isn't. Now, that
[37:28]
being said,
um we need to take a look at it again
[37:33]
and it has to go back to uh the town
board in a minute is going to referral
[37:39]
and Dan just referred to that. We're
going to refer it to the zoning board.
[37:43]
They're going to go over the specifics
of it and double check all of the
[37:49]
legalities.
Then it's going to go to them. And there
[37:52]
were many there were a lot of concerns
about the planning and things that are
[37:56]
involved particulars with the project.
Um so it may or may not go to them. It
[38:02]
cannot get passed before it comes back
to us. Okay? This project cannot be
[38:08]
approved fully before it comes back to
us. So, nobody can approve it until it's
[38:14]
going to come back to us. But the
legalities must be checked. Um, every
[38:19]
members of the town board, we represent
you, okay? We understand that and but we
[38:25]
also have to follow all the regulations.
So, we're sending it back for all those
[38:30]
considerations for everybody to take a
look at it. When he referred to Gina,
[38:34]
that's the attorney for the planning for
the zoning board. So they are going to
[38:38]
be talking about all of the legalities.
It cannot be approved before coming back
[38:44]
to us and coming back here. Okay. Can't
get the special permit without us. So
[38:50]
there is no way it can get approved in
any other way. Um we are going to table
[38:54]
it I believe correct. We are going to
table it for this evening so that those
[39:00]
legalities can be double checked and
then eventually it will come back to the
[39:05]
town board for the final vote. Okay. So
once again, it's not going to get
[39:10]
approved before we see it again. Okay.
Uh but we have to do that. We can't do
[39:16]
it because what our understanding before
is not what is correct. Now everybody
[39:20]
brought brought up particular issues
too. Um which we all literally listed um
[39:26]
and Dan took note of as well and we're
going to put those questions, issues and
[39:31]
concerns to both of our boards which is
the planning and the zoning. Okay. So,
[39:36]
they're going to be talking about that
and eventually it's going to come back
[39:39]
to us and again cannot get approved
cannot get the special permit without
[39:43]
coming back here to us. Okay.
Um
[39:49]
uh did well the public com Yes.
>> So the the Yeah, the public comment
[39:54]
section is over and it's not it can't I
>> just want to want to go.
[40:01]
» Okay.
Yeah, you are out of order in the
[40:05]
question, but let me see if I can
address it. So it would come back to us
[40:09]
after all of that is done. So it comes
back to us at the end. Um, but that's
[40:15]
that's all I'm going to say for now. So
hopefully everybody understands. Feel
[40:19]
free to wait until the end of the
meeting. I'll be glad to talk to you
[40:22]
individually if need if you want. Okay.
Um, so with that, we are going to um Is
[40:27]
there a motion to table?
>> A motion to table.
[40:32]
» Thank you.
>> I'll second.
[40:33]
» Thank you, Sue. So Matt motioned and Sue
seconded. All in favor of tableabling.
[40:38]
» I.
>> Any opposed? Thank you. Okay. So, um,
[40:44]
thank you. We have all your documents.
We're going to move on to our next item,
[40:48]
which is another hearing.
>> Oh, yes. Did anybody want to leave?
[40:52]
We'll take a short break.
[40:57]
» Thank you.
[41:35]
He actually called to He's talking
first. He he
[41:39]
» but I just wanted Oh, okay.
>> Yeah. So, it's going to go to both.
[41:41]
» I just wanted to make sure you had the
right information.
[41:43]
» No, thank you.
>> I know this is asking for the
[41:49]
clarification because he kept saying
they're outside. I'm like, how are they
[41:52]
outside?
[41:56]
» Yes.
[41:59]
» My map my shitty map.
>> It was better than what we had.
[42:13]
Can you turn your mic?
[42:47]
So folks, if you're going to leave, um,
we'd like you to do that so that we can
[42:52]
finish the meeting. If you want to stay,
please have a seat.
[42:55]
» So if you'd like to leave, can you
please just step outside so we can
[42:58]
continue with the meeting, please?
[43:03]
» Well, you got it done.
>> Okay. So if you are leaving, please step
[43:08]
outside.
Just continue talking outside though.
[43:14]
» Jab one back in.
[43:25]
» Okay, we have to come to order because
we have to continue with the meeting.
[43:29]
Please, we do ask for quiet either sit
or um thank you very much. So, we're
[43:35]
going to continue on with the hearing.
If you have more questions, please stay
[43:38]
for the end of the meeting. we'll be
happy to talk to you. Um, so next we
[43:43]
have another public hearing and that is
for the consideration of the issuance of
[43:47]
vehicle service station special use
permit regarding the premises situated
[43:51]
at 2813 Vestal Road in the town of
Vestal, New York and is being designated
[43:56]
as Broom County Tax Map number
158.10-1-4.1.
[44:05]
So in that matter,
[44:09]
we're start with the reading of the
public notice.
[44:18]
So public notice was given and the
notice read as such. Uh, notice is
[44:23]
hereby given that a public hearing will
be held on August 26, 2026 at 6 p.m. for
[44:27]
the consideration of the issuance of
vehicle service station use permit
[44:32]
regarding the premises situated at 2813
Vestal Road in the town of Vestal, New
[44:38]
York, and being designated as Broom
County Tax Map number 158.10-1-4.1.
[44:47]
Please take further notice that the
environmental significance of said
[44:50]
proposed permits will be reviewed by the
Vestal town board of the town of Vestal
[44:54]
incident 2 and as a part of said public
hearing. Therefore, pursuant to statute,
[45:00]
the town board of the town of Vestal
will hold a public hearing in the town
[45:03]
boardroom, Vestal Town Hall, 605 Vestal
Parkway West, Vestal, New York. At the
[45:08]
time of the hearing, all interested
persons will be heard. and that was
[45:12]
issued um that was published August 7th,
2026 and issued by our town clerk
[45:18]
Deborah Wallace. So, we're going to open
the public hearing um on um 2813 Veester
[45:25]
Road. So, does any member of the public
wish to make a comment in regards to 28
[45:30]
2813 Veester Road?
Yes.
[45:40]
» Okay.
[45:43]
Thank you. Is it on? Yeah. Show by
Agnesar 87 Stone Hedge Drive. Uh, more
[45:47]
of a question. It's a vehicle service
permit. Is that how you phrased it? I
[45:52]
don't have the agenda. That's why I'm
asking.
[45:55]
» Yes. No, it's okay. Um,
>> it's a vehicle
[45:58]
» vehicle service station special use
permit.
[46:01]
» Vehicle service station. Can you define
that, please? Is that a gas station? Is
[46:05]
that a car maintenance station? What
what is the definition of a vehicle
[46:09]
service station? And I believe this is
the old skate estate lot. Am I correct
[46:15]
or am I not correct?
>> No.
[46:16]
» Okay. Can you can you
>> So do you Yeah. Anything else?
[46:21]
» Nope.
>> Okay. So Dan, do you want to speak to
[46:23]
it?
[46:32]
So
[46:35]
» um can you hear me?
[laughter]
[46:39]
» It's not Skate Estate. That was Remember
that was a Williams Auto. They were
[46:42]
given um they were given a special use
permit um a couple months ago. It's the
[46:48]
Hillcrest Auto Hillrest collision. So I
think it's it must fall under the
[46:53]
definition of a vehicle service station.
if they're going to be working on cars.
[46:56]
It's not a gas station, but they will be
working on uh uh vehicles, either body
[47:01]
work or something to that effect. Okay.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[47:08]
Any me any other member of the public
wish to speak on that special use
[47:11]
permit?
[47:16]
Okay. Um so with that, we're going to
close the public hearing and mentions a
[47:22]
seeker. Do we need to do a secret on
this one?
[47:25]
» Okay.
>> We don't have the negative declaration.
[47:28]
Do you have the negative declaration?
>> Yeah.
[47:43]
» Okay. Thank you.
[47:47]
» Oh, thank you.
[48:09]
No, I appreciate it.
[48:17]
» I guess. Okay. Thank you.
[48:27]
I put in Oh, you know what? Hold on.
Let me try to find it. Sorry. There's
[48:33]
one thing we need to do and we have to
do it properly.
[48:56]
Sorry, we're trying to locate a
document.
[49:13]
Oh, I found it.
[49:19]
Here we go. I got it.
Oh, this is the document I got.
[49:25]
Thank you. Because my laptop is dying.
The battery doesn't stay for very long.
[49:29]
Thank you.
Okay, so um sorry, we have to do the
[49:34]
secret first. So, this is in regards to
2018 Vessel Road. Um 2013 2018, sorry,
[49:45]
Vessel Road. So based upon a thorough
review and examination of the known
[49:49]
facts relating to the action is careful
review of all potentially adverse
[49:53]
environmental impacts and the entire
record and proceedings relating to the
[49:57]
action as to the date of the adoption of
this res resolution including but not
[50:02]
limited to information included on the
project's environmental assessment form
[50:08]
information provided by the applicant
involved and interested agency input and
[50:13]
public input. The board finds that the
action will not have a significant
[50:17]
adverse impact on the environment and
that a draft environmental impact
[50:21]
statement will not be prepared. So I
need a motion approving a negative
[50:26]
declaration as to the seeker as there
are no large or significant
[50:30]
environmental concerns identified with
regard to the local law.
[50:34]
» So moved.
>> Thank you Matt and seconded.
[50:36]
» Seconded.
>> Thank you Glenn. And any discussion?
[50:41]
Okay. So all in favor of
>> Thank you. I any opposed?
[50:48]
Thank you. And it's carried. So it's a
negative declaration and then we're
[50:51]
moving on to the actual
special use permit.
[50:57]
So, we have a resolution authorizing
vehicle service station permit use
[51:02]
regarding the premises situated at 2813
Veester Road in the town of Vest, New
[51:07]
York and being designated as Broom
County Tax Map number 158.10-1-4.1.
[51:16]
So, can I have a motion?
>> So, moved.
[51:19]
» Thank you, Glenn, and seconded.
>> Second.
[51:21]
» Thank you, Matt. Any discussion?
So, all in favor? Hi.
[51:27]
» Any opposed?
Thank you. And it's carried.
[51:32]
Okay.
So, now we're going to move on to our
[51:36]
third hearing for this evening.
This is an um this is a public hearing
[51:41]
on the approval of a cable television
agreement between Spectrum Northeast LLC
[51:46]
and the town of Vestal.
[51:59]
and public notice was as follows. for
the approval of the cable television
[52:04]
agreement between Spectrum Northeast LLC
and the town of Vestto. Please take
[52:09]
notice that the town of Vestal will hold
a public hearing on Wednesday, August
[52:14]
26, 2026 at 6 p.m. at the Vestal Town
Hall 605 Vestal Parkway West Town of
[52:21]
Vestal and Spectrum Northeast LLC and
indirect subsidiary of Charter
[52:26]
Communications. A copy of the agreement
is available for public inspection
[52:30]
during normal business hours at the town
clerk's office, 605 Vestal Parkway West,
[52:36]
Vestal, New York. At such public
hearing, all all persons will be given
[52:41]
an opportunity to be heard. Written and
oral statements will be taken at that
[52:45]
time. Time limitations may be imposed
for each oral statement if necessary.
[52:50]
That was dated August 19th by the order
of the bo, the Vestal Town Board. Um,
[52:56]
and it was issued by the town clerk,
Deborah Wallace.
[53:00]
So, I'm going to open the public hearing
in regards to the spectrum agreement.
[53:05]
Does anybody wish to speak?
[53:10]
Okay. So, I'm going to close the public
hearing
[53:14]
and this does not need a seeker. So, one
second.
[53:22]
Okay. So we have a resolution
authorizing the supervisor to sign a
[53:27]
cable television agreement between
Spectrum Northeast LLC and the town of
[53:32]
Vestle. That motion
>> so moved.
[53:34]
» Thank you Sue and seconded.
>> Seconded.
[53:37]
» Thank you Glenn. Any discussion?
>> Okay. So all in favor.
[53:43]
» Any opposed?
Thank you. And it's carried.
[53:49]
Okay. So we're going to move on. We're
done with our public hearings for this
[53:52]
evening and we're going to move on to um
my updates.
[53:57]
So, the movie night at Arnold Park,
originally scheduled in July, has been
[54:01]
rescheduled for Thursday, September 3rd,
2026. Monsters Incorporated will be
[54:07]
shown at 8:30 p.m. There will be free
popcorn. Please bring chairs, blankets,
[54:12]
family, and friends. Um also, brush
pickup for 2026 will be September 7th.
[54:19]
Um they and the highway just reminded
you please have your brush on the curb
[54:23]
or roadside on Sunday night before the
first Monday of each current month to
[54:27]
ensure the brush is picked up. Um and it
takes a few days to get them to get
[54:32]
through the town. So please have a
little patience. And the last
[54:35]
announcement is the Vesta Memorial Tool
Pool and Splash Pad 12 is open 12 PM to
[54:43]
8:00 PM through Monday, August 31st. And
it's still a dollar for kids under 18,
[54:49]
$2 for adults and senior citizens,
including observers.
[54:53]
Okay. So, we're going to move on to our
main um agenda.
[54:58]
So, we're start with the privilege of
the floor, but I'm just going to read
[55:03]
very quickly the full rules. So, we ask
only uh we ask that people speak only
[55:08]
regarding town business. Be respectful
of all elected officials, town
[55:11]
officials, members of the audience, and
all other persons. We don't allow
[55:15]
personal attacks. We ask that you wait
to be recognized. State your name and
[55:18]
address before speaking. Speak at the
podium. Speak for no more than three
[55:22]
minutes. Be brief and to the point.
Address the comments to the board only.
[55:26]
only speak during the designated public
comment section.
[55:30]
Um, and then we always ask residents to
speak before non-residents. Now, the
[55:34]
first section, this section, um, is for
agenda items only, something that's
[55:39]
actually on the agenda for tonight.
There's a second section later in the
[55:42]
meeting if you have other town business.
So, um, does anybody, any member, any
[55:49]
resident first wish to speak on an
agenda item this evening?
[55:56]
Okay. Does any non-resident wish to
speak to an agenda item?
[56:02]
Okay. So, then we're going to go on and
we don't have any resolutions or
[56:06]
motions. Uh public works. Uh we don't
have anything this evening. Cl Matt.
[56:12]
» Uh no, nothing tonight.
>> Thank you. And Sue, finance.
[56:16]
Okay. Resolution 9.1
for the town board to approve payment in
[56:22]
the amount of $1,672.40
to Ror Wallins Gold Menow
[56:29]
LLP for outside council fees for
professional services rendered through
[56:33]
July 31, 2026. The services are as
follows. Police matter.
[56:39]
» Thank you. Can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
[56:42]
» Thank you Matt and seconded.
>> Seconded.
[56:45]
» Thank you Glenn. And any discussion?
Okay. So, all in favor?
[56:50]
» I.
>> Any opposed?
[56:53]
Thank you, Miss Carrie.
>> Okay. Resolution
[56:57]
9.2 authorizing the business office to
issue a refund to Matthews Auto Group in
[57:02]
the amount of $200. The initial request
for use of the rail trail for their
[57:06]
annual walk-athon was made through the
code department where they paid for a
[57:10]
special events permit and were not
required to do so.
[57:14]
» Thank you. Can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
[57:16]
» Thank you, Glenn, and seconded.
>> Second.
[57:19]
» Thank you, Matt. And any discussion?
Okay. All in favor?
[57:24]
» I I.
>> Any opposed?
[57:27]
» Thank you, Miss Carrie.
>> Okay. 9.3 Resolution for the town board
[57:31]
to approve payment in the amount of $270
to Hancock Esther Brook LLP for outside
[57:37]
council fees for legal services rendered
through July 31, 2026. The services are
[57:43]
as follows. Police.
>> Thank you. Can I have a motion?
[57:47]
» So moved. [snorts]
>> Um I'll call for Matt and Glenn. Would
[57:51]
you second?
>> Second.
[57:52]
» Thank you. So all um any discussion?
>> No.
[57:57]
» All in favor?
>> I. Any opposed? Thank you. And is carry.
[58:03]
» 9.4 Four, resolution authorizing
reimbursement to town engineer Thomas
[58:07]
Sullivan for the cost associated with
renewing his professional engineering
[58:11]
license in New York. This reimbursement
would be from the engineering
[58:15]
department's education and travel budget
line A1440.430.
[58:22]
The amount is $287 and this covers a
period of three years.
[58:26]
» Thank you. Can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
[58:29]
» Thank you, Glenn, and seconded.
>> Second.
[58:31]
» Thank you, Matt. Any discussion?
>> No.
[58:34]
» Okay. So, all in favor?
>> I
[58:36]
» I. Any opposed? And it's carried
>> and personnel suit.
[58:43]
» Okay. 10.1 resolution accepting the
resignation of Sarah Manny from the
[58:48]
position of first duty clerk and
approving her transfer to the position
[58:52]
as senior clerk in the police department
to replace a retiree effective August
[58:57]
31st, 2026.
>> Thank you. So, can I have a motion?
[59:03]
» So, moved.
>> Thank you, Glenn, and seconded.
[59:06]
» Second.
>> Thank you, Matt. Any discussion?
[59:10]
» Okay. So, all in favor?
>> Any opposed?
[59:14]
» Thank you, Miss Carrie.
>> Okay. 10.2. Resolution promoting Shannon
[59:18]
Augustini to senior account clerk at
$2852 per hour as per the union contract
[59:24]
due to her increased responsibilities.
>> Thank you. Can I have a motion?
[59:28]
» So moved. Thank you, Matt. And seconded.
>> Seconded.
[59:31]
» Thank you, Glenn. Any discussion?
Okay. All in favor?
[59:36]
» I
>> I. Any opposed?
[59:38]
» Thank you. And it's carry.
>> 10.3. Resolution to appoint Shannon
[59:43]
Austini foil officer effective 912026
for the remainder of the appointment
[59:48]
through 12312026.
>> Thank you. Can I have a motion?
[59:52]
» So move.
>> Thank you, Matt, and seconded.
[59:55]
» Seconded.
>> Thank you, Glenn. Any discussion?
[59:59]
Okay. So, all in favor?
>> I I Any opposed?
[1:00:03]
Thank you. As carried.
>> 10.4. Resolution to hire Ross Woolsey to
[1:00:08]
first deputy clerk of the clerk's office
effective 942026
[1:00:14]
starting a salary of $228 per union
contract.
[1:00:17]
» Thank you. Can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
[1:00:20]
» Thank you, Glenn. And seconded.
>> Second.
[1:00:22]
» Thank you, Matt. Any discussion?
>> Okay. So, all in favor?
[1:00:27]
» I. Any opposed? Thank you, Miss Carrie.
[1:00:36]
And I'm sorry, planning and zoning uh is
not here. So, Matt, are you going to
[1:00:40]
cover?
>> Yep.
[1:00:41]
» 11.1 resolution authorizing the town
board to approve the Fuller Hollow Road
[1:00:46]
Field Change Order to R. Deep Incentus
Construction, Inc. in the amount of
[1:00:51]
190,69345.
[1:00:54]
This additional cost is 100% state
funded. The revised rehabilitation
[1:00:58]
method will be concrete invert and
shotrete linings.
[1:01:05]
» Okay. Thank you. So, can I have a
motion? So, moved. Thank you, Sue. And
[1:01:08]
seconded.
>> Seconded.
[1:01:10]
» Thank you, Glenn. Any discussion?
>> Okay. So, all in favor?
[1:01:14]
» I.
>> Any opposed? And
[1:01:19]
» next one.
>> 11.2. resolution approving the
[1:01:22]
acceptance of $1,931
for from a community beautifification
[1:01:28]
and stewardship grant and authorizing
the supervisor to sign the required
[1:01:33]
documents. The conservation advisory
commission will utilize the funds to
[1:01:37]
establish a pollinator garden in Mindorf
Park.
[1:01:40]
» Okay, thank you. So, can I have a
motion?
[1:01:43]
» So moved.
>> Thank you, Glenn, and seconded.
[1:01:48]
» Second. I'm sorry.
>> Thank you, Sue. And in the discussion
[1:01:51]
part, I just want to thank um our
conservation committee uh because they
[1:01:56]
they wrote the grant, they um obtained
it and they are going to make it happen.
[1:02:03]
So I really want to thank them for their
work. They're all volunteers and they do
[1:02:06]
an amazing job. So with that, yes.
>> So um we did give them some money up
[1:02:13]
front, right? This is for the Is this
the butterfly garden or no in the wrong
[1:02:18]
place?
>> That is the butterfly garden.
[1:02:21]
[clears throat]
>> Did we forwarded them some money before
[1:02:23]
the grant came in? Right.
>> We gave two $200 and something dollars
[1:02:29]
and that will be included in this,
>> right? So that'll go back into our
[1:02:33]
general fund.
[1:02:37]
» So once again, I explained that the
grants take a little bit to actually get
[1:02:42]
the check. So what?
>> But I mean when it comes in when the
[1:02:46]
check comes in,
>> it's going to be the $200 and some odd
[1:02:49]
dollars is going to be subtracted from
the $1,900. Yes. They're only going to
[1:02:52]
get the 900 round about $900 difference.
>> Right. Okay.
[1:02:57]
» So they're going to get the exact dollar
amount of the grant award.
[1:03:01]
» Right. That I just wanted to clarify
that. Thank you.
[1:03:03]
» Okay.
>> So um so all in favor? I I Any opposed?
[1:03:10]
Thank you. inspired
[1:03:18]
» 11.3 resolution declaring the town board
as lead agency on Arnold Park carousel
[1:03:24]
structure project and also to consider
the action type as unlisted under
[1:03:28]
seeker.
>> Thank you. So can I have a motion?
[1:03:30]
» So moved. Thank you Sue and seconded.
>> Seconded.
[1:03:34]
» Uh thank you Glenn. And in the
discussion part, um so since our Monday
[1:03:39]
discussions are not taped and not
everybody reads our minutes, um I want
[1:03:44]
to make clear to um to everybody that
the um the Arnold Park carousel project
[1:03:53]
is in process. So, he we have two
different grants that we have awards of
[1:04:00]
um and they total $525,000.
[1:04:05]
The first and they are going to go
towards the building of the structure
[1:04:08]
for the carousel. So, that is an
inclusive project. Um the town personnel
[1:04:15]
are working on the whole project. Um so
that is included as inind funds but is
[1:04:20]
actually no out-ofpocket expense for
anybody.
[1:04:24]
Um that being said, um our town engineer
notified us that there is that the costs
[1:04:30]
are going to be more than we thought. So
the board discussed it on Monday and we
[1:04:36]
are trying to do this project without
any tax money. So um we are going to
[1:04:41]
continue in process for the project. Um,
however, because we've already been
[1:04:45]
awarded the grants, we are not going to
spend any more money and I have already
[1:04:50]
begun to reach out to get more funding
to make up that $152,000.
[1:04:56]
So, we will make the decision further
along the road, but personally, I am
[1:05:00]
confident that we're going to be able to
get more award money, but um, we just
[1:05:05]
want to make the public aware that we're
doing our best. Um, and we're not going
[1:05:09]
to make any more expenditures until we
assess, verify, and secure more funding.
[1:05:15]
Does any other board member wish to
comment?
[1:05:19]
Okay. And then we'll discuss it again
publicly as well. Um, so with that, um,
[1:05:24]
so can I have a motion?
>> Oh, we're in discussion. So, is
[1:05:29]
everybody good for a vote? Okay. So, all
in favor? Hi,
[1:05:32]
» I
[1:05:36]
» I
>> sorry. Hi.
[1:05:38]
» Okay. Thank you. So, any opposed?
>> Thank you, Miss Carrie.
[1:05:45]
» And next one.
>> 11.4 resolution authorizing the town
[1:05:49]
supervisor to complete all necessary
paperwork and furtherance for Crest
[1:05:54]
Grant and SAM grant regarding carousel
project.
[1:05:57]
» Thank you. So, can I have a motion?
>> So, moved.
[1:06:01]
» Thank you. and seconded.
>> Second.
[1:06:04]
» Thank you, Sue. Any discussion?
>> So again, this is just to complete the
[1:06:09]
paperwork.
>> So this is this is Yeah. So this is an
[1:06:12]
additional action. It's not an
expenditure of funds. To clarify, it is
[1:06:16]
in the grant process.
I think we've submitted three different
[1:06:21]
things. You we got the initial
application. Then we did um another set
[1:06:27]
of paperwork for the grant within the
grant process and then we we now have to
[1:06:32]
go to a whole another set of things. So
this is for the paperwork involved. It's
[1:06:36]
not an expenditure of funds. It's not a
proceeding with the project. It is
[1:06:40]
simply we take care of the paperwork
because if we and if we do not do that
[1:06:45]
we will not get the original grants. So
we have to complete it. Um the board
[1:06:49]
will consider it again as we get the
results for our outreach for more
[1:06:53]
funding. So
>> second.
[1:06:57]
» Okay.
>> Second. Yeah.
[1:06:58]
» So um so we're going to go to a vote. So
all in favor
[1:07:02]
» I
>> I Any opposed?
[1:07:06]
» So this is just to do the paperwork. No
funding.
[1:07:09]
» I just said that. Yeah.
>> I'm just clarifying that. Okay.
[1:07:12]
» Mhm.
>> Okay. I'm willing to do the paperwork,
[1:07:15]
but I have serious reservations. This is
just a vote and we just had the
[1:07:19]
discussion session. So,
>> okay. So,
[1:07:22]
» so do you want to vote?
>> Well, if I am not going to be able to if
[1:07:26]
I can't express my reservations, then
I'll just vote no. But I was going to
[1:07:30]
say if it's just for the paperwork and
not anything else, then I would move
[1:07:36]
forward. But if it's if anything other
than paperwork is going to be done
[1:07:40]
because I want to know that there's
going to be other assistance coming in.
[1:07:44]
» Okay. Just to clarify, this is past the
discussion phase, but we just I just
[1:07:48]
clarified in the discussion phase. There
will be no more expenditure of funds is
[1:07:53]
for the completion of the paperwork
involved with the original grants. Um it
[1:07:58]
makes no more commitment than we had
last week. But if we do not do this
[1:08:02]
paperwork, then we cannot proceed at
all. Um, our situation as discussed on
[1:08:07]
Monday was very simply that um, if we
decide not to move forward with the
[1:08:12]
project for some reason, it will be the
same a month from now as it was last
[1:08:17]
week. So, um, and we discussed
everything. If anybody wants to read the
[1:08:21]
minutes, the full discussion is in the
minutes from the Monday meeting. So, are
[1:08:26]
you comfortable?
>> Yes. I just wanted that clarification.
[1:08:29]
» Yeah. I I'm not asking for your vote one
way or the other. I'm just simply saying
[1:08:32]
that's clear. So, Matt, would you like
to vote?
[1:08:35]
» I
>> Thank you.
[1:08:38]
Okay. So, um
>> that was four, right?
[1:08:42]
» I already voted.
>> That was for 11.4.
[1:08:46]
» What?
>> I wanted to confirm yours was an I. I
[1:08:48]
couldn't hear.
>> Yeah. I just wanted to clarify that one
[1:08:51]
point before I voted.
>> Okay. So, um and that's Carrie as well.
[1:08:56]
Okay. 11.5
>> 11.5 resol excuse [clears throat] me
[1:09:00]
resolution authorizing the town
supervisor to sign the verification
[1:09:04]
portion of the petition pursuant to New
York State eminent domain procedure law
[1:09:08]
to acquire a portion of real property
located at 257 Baker Hill Road Vessel
[1:09:12]
New York designated t tax map number
204.02
[1:09:18]
hyphen 1 hyphen 10.
>> Thank you. Can I have a motion?
[1:09:21]
» Moved.
>> Thank you Glenn and seconded.
[1:09:23]
» Second.
>> Thank you Sue. And any discussion?
[1:09:28]
Okay. So, all in favor?
>> I I
[1:09:30]
» Any opposed?
And it's carried. Public safety sue.
[1:09:36]
» 12.1 resolution authorizing $11,37210
received by the town of Vestal from the
[1:09:44]
insurance carrier be reimbursed to the
police department vehicle maintenance
[1:09:47]
line A3120-40.
[1:09:52]
The town received these funds to cover
costs associated with damage to a patrol
[1:09:56]
vehicle.
>> Thank you. Can I have a motion?
[1:10:00]
» So moved.
>> Thank you and seconded.
[1:10:02]
» Second.
>> Thank you, Matt. Any discussion?
[1:10:06]
» Okay. So, all in favor?
>> I.
[1:10:08]
» Any opposed?
>> And it's carried.
[1:10:12]
» Okay. Uh 12.2 Two, resolution
authorizing police chief Vincent Dola to
[1:10:17]
sign anou with the mental health
association of the seventh tier MHAST
[1:10:22]
regarding expanded mental health
services that they will offer in the
[1:10:25]
near future.
>> Thank you. Can I have a motion?
[1:10:30]
» So moved.
>> Thank you Matt and seconded.
[1:10:32]
» Seconded.
>> Thank you Glenn. And any discussion?
[1:10:35]
Okay. So all in favor?
>> I. Any opposed?
[1:10:40]
Thank you. carry.
>> 12.3 Resolution for the town board
[1:10:45]
approval to accept the check for $8612
and place the funds in the police
[1:10:51]
operations line A3120-460.
[1:10:55]
The check is from the resale of spent
brass shell casings collected from
[1:11:01]
training exercises. These funds will
subsidize the purchase of an additional
[1:11:05]
ballistic shield for our patrol
division.
[1:11:09]
» Thank you. Okay. Can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
[1:11:11]
» Thank you, Glenn, and seconded.
>> Second.
[1:11:14]
» Thank you, Matt. And any discussion?
>> Okay. So, all in favor?
[1:11:18]
» I I
>> Any opposed? Thank you. As carried.
[1:11:23]
» 12.4. Resolution for town board
authorization to accept payments for
[1:11:28]
outside police agencies for their
portion of the BOR bulk order road
[1:11:32]
flares that were purchased by the police
department. Fund should be added to the
[1:11:36]
police department operating line
A3120-460.
[1:11:41]
The payments are as follows. Port
Dickinson Police Department $218.16.
[1:11:48]
Appilum Fire Department $363.60.
Village of Indicott Police Department
[1:11:54]
72720.
Village of Johnson City Police
[1:11:58]
Department $290.88.
Town of Bingington Volunteer Fire
[1:12:02]
Department, Fire Company, excuse me,
21816
[1:12:07]
cents. Best volunteer emergency squad
$15,444.
[1:12:13]
» I have 14544. Am I wrong?
>> I'm sorry, what?
[1:12:18]
» I have uh Vestal Volunteer Emergency
Squad 14544.
[1:12:21]
» 14544.
>> Okay.
[1:12:24]
» Thank you. So, can I have a motion?
>> So, moved.
[1:12:27]
» Thank you, Glenn, and seconded.
>> Second. Thank you, [clears throat] Matt.
[1:12:30]
Any discussion?
Okay. So, uh, all in favor?
[1:12:36]
» I
>> I. Any opposed?
[1:12:38]
Thank you. As carried.
>> 12.5 resolution authorizing police chief
[1:12:43]
Vincent Stavola to sign anouou with the
district attorney's office regarding
[1:12:48]
domestic violence, specifically
supporting and working with the Broom
[1:12:51]
County sexual assault response team with
retroactive effect.
[1:12:56]
» Thank you. Can I have a motion?
>> So moved. Thank you, Glenn and Matt.
[1:13:00]
Would you second?
>> Second.
[1:13:02]
» Thank you. So, any discussion?
>> Okay. So, all in favor? I.
[1:13:07]
» Any opposed?
And is carried. 12.6. Resolution that
[1:13:12]
the board of the town of Vestal
authorizes the Vestal Town Court to
[1:13:16]
apply for a JCAP grant and the 2026 27
grant cycle up to $30,000. The court is
[1:13:24]
seeking funds from the justice court
assistance program for a vestal wall
[1:13:28]
seal in the courtroom and it is
anticipated that the funds required
[1:13:32]
would range between $1,400 to $2,000.
>> Thank you. So, can I have a motion?
[1:13:39]
» So moved.
>> Thank you, Matt, and seconded.
[1:13:41]
» Seconded.
>> Thank you, Glenn. Any discussion?
[1:13:46]
» Okay, so um all in favor.
>> Any opposed?
[1:13:52]
and is carried. Administration Glenn
>> 131 resolution authorizing Daniel
[1:13:58]
Williams, IT director to attend New York
State Local Government Information
[1:14:02]
Technology Directors Association NYS LGI
TDA fall conference from October 7th to
[1:14:09]
October 9th. The conference reviews
cyber security best practices,
[1:14:14]
discussions of other county and
townships IT processes, and many other
[1:14:18]
valuable topics. The cost is $200 which
includes room accommodation and food
[1:14:22]
throughout the conference. Funds are
available in the IT budget under the
[1:14:27]
education and travel line for the IT
department.
[1:14:29]
» Thank you. Can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
[1:14:32]
» Thank you, Matt, and seconded.
>> Second.
[1:14:34]
» Thank you, Sue. And any discussion?
>> Okay. All in favor?
[1:14:40]
» I.
>> Any opposed?
[1:14:44]
Thank you. And it's carried.
132 resolution authorizing Vestal Youth
[1:14:48]
Football League VFL use of the
town-owned parking lot located at 320
[1:14:54]
Vestal Parkway East, which is the Vestal
Public Library on Friday, October 9th,
[1:14:59]
2026 from 8:00 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. They
will be hosting their annual
[1:15:04]
drive-through chicken barbecue
fundraiser. If approved, a license
[1:15:08]
agreement for the use of town property
will be signed and insurance
[1:15:12]
requirements for the request will be
verified.
[1:15:14]
» Thank you. Can I have a motion? So lift.
Thank you, Sue. One second.
[1:15:18]
» Second.
>> Thank you, Matt. Any discussion?
[1:15:23]
» Okay. All in favor?
>> Any opposed?
[1:15:27]
» And it's carry.
>> 133. Resolution for town board approval
[1:15:32]
of the fireworks permit application for
American Fireworks Display LLC on behalf
[1:15:37]
of the Vestal Youth Football League. The
display is proposed to be held on
[1:15:41]
Friday, October 9th, 2026 at Challenger
Baseball Field Memorial Park, 111
[1:15:46]
Clayton Avenue Vestal, Broom County Tax
Pack number 157.12-2-16.
[1:15:54]
If approved, code enforcement will issue
the permit and conduct final safety
[1:15:58]
inspections and launch approval as
required on the date the fireworks
[1:16:01]
display is to be held. If approved, it
is also requested that as in previous
[1:16:06]
years, the $150 permit application fee
be waved by the board for this youth
[1:16:12]
organization.
>> Thank you. Can I have a motion?
[1:16:14]
» Um, can we just clarify Broom County tax
map number I think it was 157.18
[1:16:22]
2-16.
I think it was transposed. Yeah.
[1:16:26]
» Okay.
>> Okay. So, can I have a motion?
[1:16:29]
» So moved.
>> Thank you, Matt. And seconded.
[1:16:31]
» Second. Thank you, Sue. Any discussion?
Okay. So, all in favor?
[1:16:37]
» I
>> I.
[1:16:38]
» Any opposed? And it's carried.
>> 134. Resolution authorizing Matthews
[1:16:45]
Auto to hold their 8th annual walk-athon
from 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. on Saturday,
[1:16:51]
October 3rd, 2026 at the Rail Trail. The
walk-athon is held to raise money for
[1:16:57]
local children's charities. Two 10x10
pop-up tents will be set up for check-in
[1:17:02]
and registration. If approved, a license
agreement for use of town property will
[1:17:06]
be signed and insurance requirements for
the event will be verified.
[1:17:10]
» Thank you. Can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
[1:17:12]
» Thank you, Sue. And seconded.
>> Second.
[1:17:15]
» Thank you, Matt. Any discussion?
So all in favor? I.
[1:17:21]
» Any opposed?
Thank you, Miss Car.
[1:17:25]
135 resolution for a retroactive town
board approval to advertise on August
[1:17:30]
19, 2026 for a public hearing on the
approval of a cable television agreement
[1:17:36]
between Spectrum Northeast LLC and the
town of Vestal. The public hearing will
[1:17:40]
be held on Wednesday, August 26, 2026.
>> Thank you. So, can I have a motion?
[1:17:46]
» So moved.
>> Thank you, Matt. And seconded.
[1:17:49]
» Second.
>> Thank you, Sue. And any discussion?
[1:17:53]
Okay. All in favor?
>> I.
[1:17:55]
» Any opposed?
>> Thank you. As carried. That's through.
[1:18:00]
Receive and file.
>> Uh, warrants 32 G 32 C 32 M 32 T 33G 33
[1:18:07]
C 33 M 33T 34G 34 C 34 M 34T.
Resignation letter. First deputy town
[1:18:17]
clerk.
>> Thank you.
[1:18:22]
Okay, we don't have any petitions or
protests. We don't have any old
[1:18:25]
business, but we do have new business.
[1:18:30]
So, we have four resolutions that are
related to each other. 16.1, 16.2, 16.3,
[1:18:36]
16.4
or related to the hometown hero banners.
[1:18:41]
Um, we'll go into the discussion phase
on the first one. I'll read it first.
[1:18:45]
We'll go with the discussion to explain
a little bit more and then each board
[1:18:49]
member will vote on each of the four
four resolutions um one at a time
[1:18:54]
obviously. So um
the first resolution is 16.1
[1:19:00]
which is a resolution authorizing the
portrait of the honore on the hometown
[1:19:05]
heroes banners to be formatted
exclusively within a circular shape. So
[1:19:10]
let's get into the discussion. So can I
have a motion?
[1:19:13]
» So moved.
>> Thank you. uh Glenn and seconded.
[1:19:21]
Okay. Do you not want to move forward on
this?
[1:19:24]
» Not on 161. No.
>> No, that's not what I'm asking. We're
[1:19:28]
just going to go into discussion phase
and as I emailed everybody, you would
[1:19:32]
vote yay or nay on each of the four
resolutions.
[1:19:38]
» Okay. So, you can vote
if you wish. Um or you can vote yay to
[1:19:44]
some or you can vote, you know, yes to
at least to two of them.
[1:19:52]
But we don't have a second for the
motion. Are we not proceeding?
[1:19:56]
» We would move on to resolution 16.2.
>> No,
[1:20:00]
» we cannot we cannot do
>> that's how that's we're not proceeding.
[1:20:05]
Yeah, we're not we're going to table all
of them then. So we'll go through the
[1:20:09]
motions if we are okay. Okay, we're
going to have Yep. We're going Yep.
[1:20:13]
We're going to have a motion to table
16.1.
[1:20:16]
» Just the clarification though, the law
reads that
[1:20:19]
» it's I Let me just Let me just uh step
in quickly. Um these are separate
[1:20:25]
resolutions.
If it doesn't, you need a motion, you
[1:20:29]
need a second, you don't have a second,
and it fails.
[1:20:34]
And the next go to the next item.
>> Okay. So, okay. So we stop with the
[1:20:40]
first one and um 16.2 then resolution
authorizing the portrait of the honore
[1:20:46]
on the home hometown hero banners to be
formatted exclusively within a square
[1:20:50]
sheet. So can I have a motion?
>> So moved
[1:20:54]
» and seconded.
>> Seconded.
[1:20:56]
» Okay. So we're going to pull this one.
So um Glenn, can you vote?
[1:21:01]
» I vote I.
>> Okay. I vote nay.
[1:21:05]
I
>> I
[1:21:09]
» Okay. So, um
16.3 then is a resolution authorizing
[1:21:16]
the hometown.
Right. 16.2 carries.
[1:21:23]
And 16.3
is a resolution authorizing the hometown
[1:21:27]
hero banners to display the honor
specific dates of military service. And
[1:21:32]
so, can I have a motion?
>> So moved. and seconded.
[1:21:37]
» Second
>> and Sue and any discussion.
[1:21:44]
So all in favor
>> I
[1:21:47]
» I
>> I
[1:21:49]
» and nay. So the last one is 16.4 and it
car and it carries and 16.4
[1:21:56]
is a resolution authorizing the hometown
bureau banners to display the honor
[1:22:00]
specific conflict affiliation. So can I
have a motion? So moved
[1:22:05]
» and Glenn and seconded
[1:22:09]
» second.
>> Okay. And Sue. So all in favor
[1:22:15]
um sorry we didn't start with
discussion. So all in favor
[1:22:20]
» nay.
>> Okay. I
[1:22:22]
» I Okay.
>> And then nays because you can't do 16.3
[1:22:26]
and you can't do
>> all in favor. I
[1:22:30]
» 16.3 carry.
>> 16.3 K.
[1:22:33]
» Right. Okay. So,
>> you still have to vote on 16.4 because
[1:22:36]
it's on the agenda.
>> Okay. I just didn't know what the
[1:22:38]
question was.
>> All right. So, you to clarify, you can't
[1:22:42]
have both, right?
>> But you can't have both on there, right?
[1:22:44]
» Yes.
>> So, it would be an A.
[1:22:46]
» Yeah. Then I would be an A because you
can't have both. Okay.
[1:22:51]
» And I was an
[1:22:54]
» Okay. Okay. So, with that, we have the
final design of the Hometown Heroes
[1:23:00]
banner. So, we're going to move forward
with that program.
[1:23:04]
Um just to I also want to say uh thank
you to all our town employees who have
[1:23:09]
worked so hard on this project. Um if
any members of the uh if any residents
[1:23:14]
do not know what the hometown banner
program is, it is a program where you um
[1:23:21]
families sponsor banners um in honor of
their veterans. So it might be um a
[1:23:27]
child, it might be a grandfather, it
generally banners go back generations
[1:23:34]
and the town has facilitated the
creation of a design and this was the
[1:23:38]
finalization of that design. So, with
that, um, we want to I want to thank
[1:23:44]
everybody who was involved in the
process. And um tonight I voted how the
[1:23:50]
town employees voted because I did a
survey and I was able to get um 82 of
[1:23:58]
them because we have different
schedules. But um and they put forward
[1:24:03]
uh the I double checked the last design
to make sure there weren't any issues,
[1:24:08]
but I voted on their behalf tonight
because um that's what they had wanted.
[1:24:13]
But um but they also said at the same
time that they would be good with any
[1:24:17]
design. Um if you are not familiar with
it, the town the hometown banners are
[1:24:24]
hosted um in a lot of towns in Endicott
and everything. It does not cost the
[1:24:30]
town or municipality any money. Family
sponsor the banners. The price that we
[1:24:36]
we're going to finalize the price, but
the initial price, if we do it in blocks
[1:24:41]
of 40, will be $185.
Our highway and parks department will be
[1:24:46]
putting up the BL banners every year and
taking them down, so there's no out-of
[1:24:50]
pocket cost for the town. Um, and the
banners will stay up for three years at
[1:24:56]
a time. So, it's $185 for three years.
And at that point, it would have to be
[1:25:01]
renewed or not. and the family would get
the banner back if they choose not to
[1:25:05]
renew. So there's really no loss to the
family. So um we are going to continue
[1:25:11]
on and we will have put public notice
out as soon as the last mockup is done
[1:25:16]
and we will I know that we've had a lot
of inquiries on how to sponsor a banner.
[1:25:22]
Um so we will put the information out as
quickly as the company gets back to us.
[1:25:28]
So, we're going to move on to the next
new business, which is 16.5,
[1:25:33]
which is a resolution authorizing the
town supervisor to execute the lease
[1:25:36]
agreement between the town and the
Vestal Public Library regarding the town
[1:25:41]
owned property located at 320 Vestal
Parkway East, Vestto, New York, County
[1:25:46]
of Broom. Um, so, um, can I have a
motion?
[1:25:50]
» So, lift.
>> Thank you, Sue, and seconded.
[1:25:52]
» Second.
>> Thank you, Matt. So, any discussion?
[1:25:56]
So all
>> you mind if I pipe in?
[1:25:58]
» Good. Yes.
>> Um even though I don't get a vote.
[1:26:03]
» Um so this uh this is a lease that uh
has been expired for some time. Um the
[1:26:12]
parties uh um meaning the library
representatives and uh the town come to
[1:26:19]
uh an agreement and the only it's been
it's been circulated to uh the town
[1:26:25]
board members um for all the
particulars. Now the only particular all
[1:26:30]
the particulars are are agreed to and
they have been agreed to as I understand
[1:26:33]
it from uh the library board as well. Um
the date has changed just because it
[1:26:39]
took uh um from the time it was agreed
to and now another month has passed.
[1:26:44]
We're going to make it effective uh
September 1 then if that's uh if that's
[1:26:48]
agreeable to the town board.
>> Effective September 1st.
[1:26:53]
» Yeah, it's just a couple days.
>> Okay. Yeah, that makes more sense
[1:26:56]
because it's the beginning of a school
year, too.
[1:26:58]
» Yeah. Is that Mr. Romani? Is that all
right with
[1:27:04]
that make sense? Okay.
>> All right.
[1:27:07]
Okay. Do you want to note it in the
resolution?
[1:27:10]
» It'll be in the minutes.
>> Okay.
[1:27:14]
Okay. So, um, any other discussion?
Everybody got a copy of it?
[1:27:20]
» Okay. So, all in favor?
>> Any opposed?
[1:27:24]
Thank you, Miss Carrie.
[1:27:30]
And 16.6 Six resolution authorizing the
renewal of the multi-state multi-state
[1:27:36]
information sharing and analysis center
membership at a cost of $3,495
[1:27:42]
and authorizing the town supervisor to
execute the renewal agreement if
[1:27:46]
required. So, um, can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
[1:27:51]
» Thank you, Glenn, and seconded.
>> Second.
[1:27:53]
» Thank you, Matt. And all in favor?
>> I I
[1:27:56]
» Can I just I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I
apologize. I almost skip discussion. Go
[1:28:00]
ahead. Okay. So, the $3,495
is a yearly cost, right? Not a monthly.
[1:28:06]
» So, that is a yearly cost.
>> Yearly cost. Okay. I just want to make
[1:28:09]
sure.
>> So, the details were in the email that
[1:28:11]
you received and that
>> I'm just clarifying.
[1:28:17]
» Well, yeah, I'm just clarifying because
people didn't get the email from the
[1:28:20]
public
annual cost at a at an annual cost,
[1:28:25]
right?
[1:28:30]
at an annual.
>> Somebody makes that motion.
[1:28:32]
» I'll make that motion that it read at an
annual um so Deborah on 16.6 Six. I'm
[1:28:38]
making a motion that it read uh analysis
center membership and annual cost of so
[1:28:46]
I'm adding the word annual in there just
to clarify that it's for a year
[1:28:51]
but we need a second
>> second.
[1:29:00]
» Okay. So, uh, I will free I will reread
the the revised resolution resolution
[1:29:06]
authorizing the renewal of the
multi-state information sharing and
[1:29:10]
analysis center membership at a cost of
3,400
[1:29:14]
» annual cost
>> an annual cost of $3,495
[1:29:18]
and authorizing the town supervisor to
execute the renewal agreement if
[1:29:21]
required. So, all in favor?
>> I I
[1:29:24]
» Any opposed? Thank you as carried
>> on the amendment.
[1:29:30]
» Yep. Yes,
>> I did. I just read the amended
[1:29:34]
resolution.
>> That was the amended.
[1:29:38]
» She made a motion.
>> Okay. So, we we just amended the
[1:29:43]
resolution and now we're going to vote
on the amended resolution. So, the
[1:29:47]
resolution. So, we are now voting on the
amended resolution, which is a
[1:29:50]
resolution authorizing the renewal of
the multi-state information share. You
[1:29:53]
just want me to say this five times.
The resolution authorizing the renewal
[1:29:58]
of the multi-state information sharing
and analysis center membership at a cost
[1:30:02]
of
>> an annual cost
[1:30:04]
» at an annual cost of $3,495
and authorizing the town supervisor to
[1:30:08]
execute the renewal agreement if
required. So, can I have a motion?
[1:30:13]
» So moved.
>> Thank you, Matt. And seconded.
[1:30:15]
» Seconded.
>> Thank you, Glenn. And any discussion?
[1:30:19]
» Okay. Thank you. So, all in favor? I.
Any opposed? Thank you as car.
[1:30:26]
Okay. Um I said my announcements before.
Uh committee chairs and comments.
[1:30:35]
Okay. Um I have committee chair comments
and updates. Um finance supervisors
[1:30:40]
reports have been completed through
June. The completed 2025 financial
[1:30:45]
reporting to OSC is on the website. The
2025 financial audit has been completed
[1:30:51]
and will be available shortly.
Department heads are currently working
[1:30:54]
on their preliminary budgets. Public
safety. The New York State Police
[1:30:59]
Juvenile Officers Association recognized
SRO Connor Talbot as youth officer of
[1:31:05]
the year for his incredible work in our
community. The Vestal Police Department
[1:31:09]
states that officer Talbot has for the
past 11 years been the mascot for the
[1:31:14]
Vestal Youth Police Academy, a dedicated
SRO, an important part of local youth
[1:31:20]
sports. Thank you to the Vessel Central
School District for assisting the Vestal
[1:31:24]
Police Department with the application
process for this award. Check the Vestal
[1:31:28]
Police Facebook page for pictures and
details. The public is reminded that a
[1:31:33]
two or three-w wheeled vehicle without
pedals that is powered purely by
[1:31:37]
electric motor but is not registered is
not legal on public roads and highways
[1:31:43]
in the town of Estel.
EMS report. In July, there were 343
[1:31:48]
calls, 284 transports, seven missed
calls. They have a 97 98% call coverage,
[1:31:55]
2% missed calls. Year-to date 97% call
coverage. Uh 3% miss calls. Transport
[1:32:03]
miles, 1571.9
in July, 8,133.20
[1:32:10]
year to date, March to July. uh fire
department. The fire department
[1:32:14]
continues to provide training to enhance
the quality of fire services in the town
[1:32:18]
of Vestal. A significant uptick in calls
has occurred as the students return.
[1:32:23]
More people, more calls. Please remember
to move to the shoulder of the road for
[1:32:28]
emergency vehicles to pass safely.
Personnel clerk's office, the farmers
[1:32:32]
market is up and running until um
Wednesdays and Saturdays until November.
[1:32:37]
Hunting licenses are available.
Preparations are in progress for
[1:32:41]
collection of school taxes to begin on
September 1. Recreation. The Vessel
[1:32:46]
Recreation Department fall flyer for
2026 is available online. Check out the
[1:32:51]
fall sports league's information. Come
join the fun.
[1:32:56]
» Thank you. Any other uh committee
reports?
[1:32:59]
» Uh yeah, I'd just like to remind
everyone to keep an eye on the Facebook
[1:33:04]
page for the Vestal Museum as well as
the recreation department. There's
[1:33:09]
always things going on for both areas.
The museum, even if they're not having
[1:33:14]
an event, it's an amazing place to see.
They've got so much history from the
[1:33:17]
town that it's just a worthwhile going
down, spend an hour or two talking to
[1:33:21]
the director down there. It's
fascinating place. And then, of course,
[1:33:25]
October's coming up in Wreck, so
there'll be movies, there'll be the
[1:33:29]
Monster Bash. Just keep your eyes open
on those Facebook pages.
[1:33:32]
» Yep. Thank you. I appreciate it. Any
other Matt? Did you have anything?
[1:33:36]
» Yeah, I do. Uh it's not really repaired,
so I'll just wing it here a little bit.
[1:33:41]
Um the parks department has uh been
working in July on a project to refinish
[1:33:45]
David ad David a parks tennis and
basketball courts. They also realign and
[1:33:51]
added more fencing to accommodate the
first pickle ball court uh in the town.
[1:33:56]
Uh they are also working on improvements
to the bowlers's approach of the cricut
[1:34:00]
pitch. Uh they poured a new 10-ft
concrete pad and installed new
[1:34:04]
playground bedding at the Cricut Pitch
Park. So, thank you to our parks
[1:34:10]
department and all of our public works.
Uh as summer's winding down here, we're
[1:34:14]
going to be gearing up for snow before
we know it. So, appreciate everything
[1:34:17]
they do for us.
>> Thank you. So, um
[1:34:22]
with that, um we're going to move on to
[1:34:31]
Thank you. Public comment section. Now,
I read the the rules, so we're going to
[1:34:36]
stick to the same rules. Please keep it
to three minutes. Please respectful to
[1:34:39]
everybody. Does any member of the
audience audience wish to speak on a
[1:34:44]
matter of town business?
[1:34:48]
» Just two clarification questions. Can
you expand on the eminent domain and the
[1:34:55]
second one is the um court court wall
whatever it was. My understanding was
[1:35:03]
that the courts are no longer using that
room but maybe I I I wasn't here for the
[1:35:07]
Monday um meeting work session so I
apologize. Can you expand on that as
[1:35:11]
well?
>> For which one? I I'm just trying to
[1:35:14]
understand the second one.
>> Seal the wall seal. Is that
[1:35:18]
» Oh, okay. Yeah, absolutely. So, um, no,
I forgot what the first one is.
[1:35:25]
» No, no, I can just give.
>> Oh, eminent domain. Thank you.
[1:35:33]
Sorry. Thank you. So, the first one is
eminent domain. So, the resolution was
[1:35:37]
in regards to um a project in which a
town is expanding a road. um numerous uh
[1:35:44]
numerous times the the the town has
tried to contact them going all through
[1:35:49]
all the steps and they still have not be
a been able to contact that person. So
[1:35:53]
then you go to procedure which is that
there's a procedure where um you where
[1:35:58]
the town takes the property with
compensation to the owner um but it has
[1:36:03]
to go to court basically to a judge and
then they they have to show why they
[1:36:07]
need it. um all the particulars have to
be established and then they can they
[1:36:12]
can do a legal document to move towards
it but it's for the expansion of a road
[1:36:17]
um and the second one is the court seal
is that um in the new location the court
[1:36:23]
does not have traditionally courts I
think always have courts have a court
[1:36:28]
seal like behind them um and they they
had originally when they moved they had
[1:36:34]
tried to have something it didn't work
out So there is a grant um that is
[1:36:40]
available um in the court district. Um
so they're applying for the grant to
[1:36:46]
fund a seal that so they can have a seal
like they should. So that's it. So
[1:36:51]
they're asking for a grant for it. Um
but they need permission of the town
[1:36:54]
because they're inclusive in the town.
So um if you have any other questions
[1:36:59]
just wait a couple of minutes.
>> If I could give details on the eminent
[1:37:01]
domain.
>> So
[1:37:03]
» just more detail on it. So, the imminent
domain, there's a bridge on Baker Hill
[1:37:08]
Road as it comes off of Tracy Creek
Road. Tracy Creek runs under the bridge
[1:37:12]
and that bridge is in it needs to be
replaced. But the new bridge is going to
[1:37:17]
need a little bit more space to do the
building. So, that's where we're getting
[1:37:22]
imminent domain to take a piece of
property. We tried to contact the owner.
[1:37:28]
They're having trouble with that. So,
we're going to move it forward because
[1:37:31]
the bridge needs to be replaced.
Okay, thank you. So, uh, any other
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member of the P public have a question
or comment?
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» Hello, my name is Jennifer. I am a
Vestal resident and and I just had a
[1:37:48]
question for you guys. But first, I
wanted to thank you all for today for
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the attention that you gave to
everybody's concerns and to how you guys
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really listened and just even going down
the agenda. the amount of attention and
[1:37:58]
thought you guys put behind your
decisions on most of all I would say all
[1:38:02]
of the agenda items. It was really
heartening to see. So, thank you. And my
[1:38:06]
question is really just maybe after the
meeting if someone could just clarify
[1:38:10]
for me the next steps that I should be
on the lookout for regarding um agenda
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item four with the public hearing uh the
special permanent 1016 Vestal Parkway.
[1:38:19]
I'm specifically wondering um the
timeline of how does it move through the
[1:38:24]
zoning board or the ZBN review? Like do
we have a ballpark of how long that
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takes or when I should be checking back
for updates?
[1:38:33]
» Dan, can you comment?
>> Um I don't know when the next the ZBA
[1:38:38]
meets monthly. Okay. Um once a month. So
I don't know who when their next meeting
[1:38:45]
is. It is on their website.
tomorrow.
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» Is it tomorrow?
>> Is it on the agenda for tomorrow though?
[1:38:52]
Because their agenda isn't normally set.
>> I don't mean it's probably if it's
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tomorrow, they won't have time to render
a decision. So, it'll be the next
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monthly meeting.
>> Okay.
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» And the ZBA will make their decision.
They'll provide an uh some
[1:39:09]
[clears throat] advice and an opinion
and then it'll come back to um this
[1:39:14]
board. As far as the uh how this project
is is making its way through the
[1:39:20]
planning board, you can check the
planning board also meets monthly.
[1:39:24]
They're the second Tuesday of every
month and uh [clears throat]
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you can check uh the progress there.
Those are public meetings you can attend
[1:39:34]
and there's more uh at those meetings
there's more uh detail about uh the site
[1:39:39]
plans and there's and there's discussion
about uh uh like I'd mentioned earlier
[1:39:45]
whether um remediation is uh is going to
be recommended by the planning board
[1:39:50]
that sort of thing.
>> So like for this Z it's ZVA you said
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it's called
>> it's the zoning board of appeals the
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shortand for zoning board of appeals is
ZBA.
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» Thank you very much. And so is do you
know the public is allowed to attend
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those meetings? Are they allowed to
speak at them as well? Do you
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» want to wait for two minutes? We're
going to wrap it up. We can't do a back
[1:40:08]
and forth, but
>> that'd be great. Thank you.
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» Please wait for a minute or two and be
glad to answer any more questions.
[1:40:14]
» Says, does any other member of the
audience wish to uh make a statement or
[1:40:18]
ask a question on town business?
Okay, with that we're going to go move
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into executive session with a break for
any questions
[1:40:28]
um on um so we need a motion to go into
executive session uh on topic of the
[1:40:35]
foil officer and um with a break for a
couple of minutes to answer questions.
[1:40:40]
So can I have a motion?
>> So moved.
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» Thank you um Len and seconded.
>> Second.
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» Thank you Matt. And uh any discussion?
Okay. All in favor?
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» I.
>> Any opposed?
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» Thank you. If you have more questions,
come on.
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» You know what? If
If it had a swank We may
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» there.
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Should
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I continue?
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I only
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» after