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All
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right, it's red. We are streaming.
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» Okay, we're ready to go.
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» All right,
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it is 7:01 p.m. on Monday
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the 29th of June, 2026. Um, and can I
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get a call to order of the meeting uh
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for Eastern Delaware County Joint Rector
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District? Mr. Henderson, can I get roll
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call, please?
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» Mr. McCoy
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» Here,
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» Miss Watson
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» Here,
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» Miss Greger
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» Here,
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» Miss Savvada
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» Here,
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» And Mr. Muzakio
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» Here.
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» Five present. We have a quorum.
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» Perfect. Um, first item on the agenda is
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the meeting minutes from May 21st, 2026.
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Does the board have any discussion?
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I'll I'll second that.
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» All right. Moved in and seconded.
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» Yeah, I was going to say I think we have
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an a correction we want to make.
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» Correct.
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» That is true. Uh there was a slight
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correction on who uh approved motion for
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resolution 20264.
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It would be Miss Watson approving. I
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second it
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correction.
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» All right. So with that correction, uh,
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Miss Watson,
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» Yes.
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» Mr. Koy,
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» Yes.
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» Miss Sabvada,
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» Can I abstain since I was not present.
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Thank you,
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» Mr. Mazakio.
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» Yes.
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» And Miss Greger,
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» I abstain. I was not present either.
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» Well, we probably do need a fourth.
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» Well, I think I could do it.
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Thanks.
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» All right. Motion approved. Uh 41.
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One.
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» Next item on the agenda is public
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comment. Um are there any visitors that
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would like to speak?
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» I don't know. Mayor, mayor, why don't
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you welcome people? Come on up here.
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» All right.
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No.
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You gave this nice pen. Tell them about
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the pen.
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All right, fair enough. We'll move on.
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» All right.
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» Uh, unfinished business.
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There are no stated items. The board
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have any discussion?
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Perfect.
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We'll move along.
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Uh, new business. And I think there's a
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site change um
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program and site layout updates. Is that
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correct?
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» Perfect.
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» Yes.
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Sounds great.
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» Great.
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» Thanks everybody for having us here
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tonight. Um, as a reminder, my name is
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Sophia Alonza. I'm the project manager
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for PUDI Solutions. We've been doing um
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some of the work on the Eastern Delaware
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County Joint Rec District Community
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Center. Um, and so tonight we have a few
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different topics to talk to you about.
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Um we'll have MSA and Katie Freeland
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going over um some of the programming
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just as a kind of reminder of where we
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left off back in April, but also showing
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some new um graphics to help visualize
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uh what we're what we're showing and
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then we'll be going through some of the
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site criteria. So part of our engagement
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with phase 2 was to do um site
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selection. So we are going to walk you
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through that process and hopefully get
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an approval for the criteria. So, I'll
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pass it off to Katie.
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» So, again, as a reminder to the board,
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we we won't be projecting the um slides,
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but that you do have those in front of
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you uh in the packet that she'll be
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walking through both of Yeah, there you
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go. Great. Thank you.
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» All right. So, again, Katie Freeland
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with MSA Design. Um we're just going to
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give you kind of a quick update of what
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we have been working on in the
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background in terms of the program of
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the building. So again, not just the
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amenities that are going into the
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building, things that are proposed. Um
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the first slide that I will direct you
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to is the one that says program April
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2026 programming diagram. So just as a
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reminder, that is where we left things
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off after our series of community
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engagement sessions. Um throughout that
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series of workshops, we really focused
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on getting feedback from the community
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as well as you all on the types of
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spaces uh that might be desirable in
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this future community recreation center.
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Um and then the diagram was really
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capturing kind of what what those spaces
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could be um in in a diagrammatic way. Um
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we left things off with a building that
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was approximately 90,000 square feet um
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with about 10% of expansion that was
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dashed in on there. Just understanding
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there there are still many decisions to
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be made and many things to be validated.
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At that time we were also considering a
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potential partner space. Um, so square
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footage of that really wasn't very well
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vetted or necessarily discussed, but for
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just for the sake of the diagram, that
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was about 25,000 square feet.
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So, if you go to the next program
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diagram,
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um, ultimately the intention of this is
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once we get through the site selection
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criteria, we will then be providing a
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more developed floor plan and site plan
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for each of the sites that are under
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consideration. And the goal of that is
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really to help you all understand kind
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of the impact of that site as it means
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to the building and then the surrounding
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amenities associated with that. Um as
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part of that we went ahead and started
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developing and this is sort of just a
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test program a test floor plan of what
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that might look like. So the intention
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is once some of these sites are under
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consideration we will then use this kind
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of footprint modified um to reflect the
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sites that are being discussed. Um, so
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in this particular version of a plan and
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it is starting to look a little bit more
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like a plan, but please keep in mind
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this is just sort of a working document
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and you know is going to will change as
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we move forward. Um, we are continuing
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to show a building footprint of about
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90,000 square foot. On this particular
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one, um, we were starting to suggest
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there might be a mezzanine space. Um,
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one of the programming elements that was
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discussed was an elevated running or
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walking track that might be above the
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gym space. So in this particular
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footprint, you know, it started to make
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sense maybe putting some uh fitness
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space up there as well. Um this is
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showing programming rooms, a fitness
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floor. Um we are starting to
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diagrammatically show kind of what I
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would say focus maybe more on the amount
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of fitness equipment that could fit in a
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fitness floor of that size, not
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necessarily the type of equipment. Um
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this is really just to kind of help you
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understand scale of the space. Um, so
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again, this ended up about a 90,000 ft
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footprint with a 4,000 square ft
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mezzanine. Um, we are not necessarily
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building an additional expansion space
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or that partner space in this diagram,
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but certainly can do so as we start to
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test fit some of the sites um, moving
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forward. In terms of continuing vetting
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and refinement of the program, um I
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would ask you as we just continue all of
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the other discussions and points that we
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will continue to explore with you
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throughout this process. Um one of
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course your ongoing feedback will be
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considered and put into whatever that
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developed program will be. So if you
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have any ideas, questions,
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considerations, please make sure that
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you're bringing those up. Um
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[clears throat] there will be some
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operational considerations that we will
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want to make sure the uh programming
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document kind of follows along with that
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process. And I will just give you a
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couple for instances. Um if you uh
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ultimately decide from an operational
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standpoint uh you are maybe building out
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a more robust operational plan um and
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would like to offer you know a large
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series of types of fitness classes, art
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classes, um community interest classes,
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we might start to suggest that we have
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more of those kind of multiuse types of
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spaces reflected in the program. um if
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you ultimately is starting to lean
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towards something that is more um
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streamlined and it's operational and
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maybe some of those types of flexible
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spaces aren't as desired, we may pull
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back some of those types of spaces. Um I
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know a competition pool has been
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requested. Um that is something that
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would start to then have an operational
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aspect on it. Uh so right now for the
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diagram we are showing just a 25 m pool.
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We're not showing a 50 m pool, but
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certainly um I think there is space in
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there where something like that could
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start to layer in. Um just again when
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you start talking about operation and
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operating something that could be used
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more from a competitive swim standpoint,
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um there is impact on the use of that
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for your community members. Um does that
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want to be in the same space as the
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other aquatics? There's a lot of kind of
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conversation that we can continue to
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have about that moving forward. Um but
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for sort of a base level set as we study
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the sites this is kind of where we
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landed um at the end of the the first
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phase of this engagement um we have
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taken the liberty to add in some kind of
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ancillary and accessory support pieces
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just as we've developed it some office
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space restrooms storage those types of
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things that we think would naturally
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kind of follow along the program that
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was developed but we have not altered
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kind of the base set of program
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substantially from what where we left
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things off. So, any questions on that
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before I
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flip the next one? Okay.
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And then the last diagram here in your
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packet is a site diagram. Um, so what we
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did for this one, and again, you'll see
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kind of this format translated to the
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sites that will ultimately be
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considered. Um, but for the sake of this
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exercise, we are just showing a generic
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7acre box. That's what that dashed blue
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line is around that. Um, we are showing
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that building footprint from the
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previous slide. So that 90,000 square
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foot building footprint. Um, and then we
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are showing the associated parking spots
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for a building of that size sitting on
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that footprint. So again, for the sake
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of this, I took Sunbur's [clears throat]
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um zoning code. They are requiring 200
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spots for one spot for every 200 square
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feet of exercise space. So, as we refine
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the program, you know, that number might
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shift a little bit just depending on
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what we're categorizing and what's being
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provided in terms of exercise space. Um,
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but for this one, it ended up about 390
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spaces. So, you can see that that pretty
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much fills a 7 acre site. When we get
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the the associated parking with that,
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um, certainly there are opportunities.
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We can start looking at a multi-story
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building. we can really um be much more
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selective about what we classify as
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exercise space and really kind of drill
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down to what that really means and make
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sure that we're not overp parking the
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site. Um but just to get you sort of a
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base level understanding of how that
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might look on a on a generic site. Um we
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thought this might be helpful as you're
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going through the selection criteria
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matrix this evening.
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» I do have a question. So I know one of
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the things we talked about needed some
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additional work was um you know outdoor
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field space. Do we have any rough ideas
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of like what like acreage would be we
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would be looking at?
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We can provide that. I think one of the
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things and I think we'll probably talk
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about it when we get into the site
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selection. Um I believe it was left with
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studying the sites seeing what
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opportunities of sites have for that
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type of expansion but not necessarily
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build that in today into this criteria.
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» So it might be a little bit of a back
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and forth. I guess that's not a great
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answer, but it'll be a little bit back
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and forth once we get the sites and we
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understand what they're um what is
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available and then we can start giving
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you some idea of how that might lay out.
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But certainly we could pull together an
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acreage of kind of a base level outdoor,
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you know, practice space what that could
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look like as well.
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» Yeah. And what you just said was my
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understanding as well, but I was just
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trying to gauge in, you know, my mind's
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eye, you know, if we were to find a site
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that could accommodate both like what
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rough acreage would look like. But I
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understand what you're saying.
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[snorts]
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Any other questions on that? All right.
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Well, you'll see more of these types of
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diagrams again moving forward. Um I
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think once we start applying that to the
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site, um obviously that conversation
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will evolve and develop, but if you have
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any other thoughts about what we've sort
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of thrown into that base understanding,
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please let us know. Um thank you.
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Thank you.
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» Um, with the outdoor fields, I do think
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that, um, so what Katie has said is is
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where we're leaving off. I I know that
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internally we've been thinking about the
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size of Bevelr Park for an outdoor
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facility, which is about 140 acres. So,
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um, with the site selection, we we do
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have it as a consideration for, um, like
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expansion space, um, for potentially
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outdoor fields. So, it is something that
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we're considering, but we're not
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limiting ourselves to only looking at
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sites that would accommodate for 140
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acres, if that makes sense.
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» Yeah. And so, when you say 140 acres, is
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that like all their various zones
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because they have like the yellow zone
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and Okay.
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» Yeah. Yes.
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Um, so I'll go ahead and get started
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with a little bit of the site evaluation
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process. So our team over the past few
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weeks has been working to compile a list
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of potential sites. So these are both
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publicly owned. There are some sites
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that are for sale and then also some
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additional sites that we're looking at
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that aren't currently listed for sale
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but perhaps could be um owned by a
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community partner. So that's something
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that we're considering. We have about 15
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sites right now. Um we've compiled some
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site profiles for these which include um
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the size, owner, if they're for sale,
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what they are for sale acreage wise, um
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what available utilities are near the
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site as well. So um we are creating
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these site profiles for our team but
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then also for your team um as we will
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have you kind of uh rank these sites. Um
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but our team will be going through and
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at least evaluating likely it'll be more
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than 10 but um we do say 10 sites right
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now. Um I think the sites that we have
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picked out are worth really looking at.
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So 10 to 15 is what we will be ranking
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as a project team. The highest ranking
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sites will be evaluated by the board
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members. So, we are going to see where
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the natural break is, but this will
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likely be five between five and three
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sites that we will have each member of
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the EDJRD board ranking. Um, we will end
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up combining these scores with what we
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have included to get some top
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contenders. And so with this, we will
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then start to do um a process of just
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reaching out to the owners depending on
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if it's publicly owned, whether it is
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private or for sale. So um to reiterate
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the process, um we will be ranking 10 to
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15 sites as a project team. From there,
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we would like to schedule um a meeting
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with the EDJRD board, likely um perhaps
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a two-hour session. And I know that
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there's been discussion on um what needs
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to be done. So I know that there has
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been desire to do a ranking by all of
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the EDJRD board members. So if we need
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to do an executive session or if there's
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some type of committee that we need to
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form then we're happy to do that. But um
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I think that it would be worth having
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all members
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uh rank the sites. And for this we'll
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provide you with those site profiles
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that we are creating. But then also we
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will be available to answer any
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questions so that we can move through
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the rankings together. We think that
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having everyone in one room would be
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helpful to really create um a
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consistency across scoring. So um we
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wouldn't want you know the mindset to
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shift a little bit after you take some
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time to really re-evaluate. So having it
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in one session with everyone in our team
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available for questions we think is
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going to be the best option. That's what
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we would recommend.
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I've included um a schedule. I believe
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this is on slide eight or nine. Um and
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this is just walking you through our
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process. So our team is going to take
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the next two weeks to review these sites
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and score them. Um and then we would
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like to meet with you relatively
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quickly. Um so ideally either the 21st,
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22nd, 29th or 30th um would be
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preferable. I know that sometimes
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everyone's schedule is busy so if we
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need to adjust we can we can do that but
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um just to throw out some dates so that
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we are staying on a tight timeline. Um
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and then we would like to have
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about what is this about three and a
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half weeks to create a draft program um
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and a draft recommendation to provide to
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the board. So we'll be taking all of the
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combined sites and creating a uh
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recommendation to provide to you which
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will um lay out all the rankings where
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they scored um but then also kind of how
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to proceed depending on what the site
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is. So we'll be able to provide some
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recommendations on um an acquisition or
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what whatever the mechanism for
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acquiring a site would be.
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Um recommendations obviously will depend
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on the owners. So if it's a public site,
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perhaps there's just um a land lease,
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but also if it's um private, perhaps
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there's option to purchase. So we'll go
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through what those recommendations are
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in um a recommendation that we present.
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Are there any questions on the schedule
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or the process?
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Okay,
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if you go to the next slide, we have
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just um two slides that are covering
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everything that's on our site evaluate
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evaluation matrix. You can see what um
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items are weighted at. So um all of
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these criteria will be ranked 0 through
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10. Um and then obviously the score will
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be impacted by whatever the weight is.
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So these are about um weighted 1 through
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10. Um I believe the highest that we
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might have is just an eight right now.
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But um those are dependent on obviously
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what is uh more important and for for
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our team we find that um utilities and
[19:06]
um the the site features are some of the
[19:09]
more important. So those are heavier
[19:11]
heav he heavily weighted. Um you can you
[19:14]
can see that throughout the sections,
[19:16]
but um I'd like to go section by section
[19:19]
and I've included a little bit closer of
[19:20]
a screenshot on the following slides
[19:24]
just to um see if there are any
[19:27]
questions or comments. I'm happy to walk
[19:29]
through each of them individually if
[19:30]
that would be helpful. We have been
[19:32]
working with um Bernie, Todd, and Daryl
[19:36]
um during our bi-weekly meetings to
[19:39]
discuss these criteria, what they're
[19:41]
weighted. Um so we have uh reflected
[19:45]
those conversations in this updated
[19:48]
drawing. Um
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» Yeah so so if I could say I know slides
[19:52]
nine and 10 are a little small but they
[19:54]
break out on beginning on slide 11. So
[19:56]
just they so each individual section is
[19:59]
just a little bit bigger and I think a
[20:01]
little bit easier to read. So yeah.
[20:10]
Are there any questions on the site
[20:12]
features?
[20:14]
» Oh, we're just going section by section,
[20:15]
not line item by line item.
[20:16]
» If if that's what you would prefer,
[20:18]
happy to. Yeah,
[20:19]
» It's hard to read this. I know I have it
[20:21]
here.
[20:21]
» Okay.
[20:22]
» Is this the same?
[20:23]
» Yeah.
[20:24]
» Yeah, actually the packet. You're right.
[20:26]
The packet is easier to read.
[20:28]
» Sorry about that. Makes sense.
[20:34]
So yeah, on packet page five it begins.
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» I have
[20:46]
» I think one of the questions I had and
[20:47]
it was one of my comments uh that I had
[20:49]
I wasn't able to make the meeting but um
[20:52]
hopefully it made sense. Number
[20:57]
nine on the packet. Uh site is not
[21:00]
designated as flood plane or wetland. I
[21:03]
think for me
[21:05]
» Um the building does not want to be at
[21:07]
all.
[21:08]
» Yeah.
[21:09]
» The the park the the path
[21:12]
to worry about
[21:13]
» Now the field space uh we have it here
[21:16]
at one of the elementary schools. Every
[21:18]
time it rains it floods. It's kind of
[21:20]
tough for soccer and the other sports.
[21:22]
So I think a generic statement that the
[21:24]
whole field say we go for 150
[21:26]
» Acres
[21:28]
» I think find some parcels for areas
[21:32]
where we have the building and the path.
[21:35]
So I think for me it's a little higher
[21:37]
like because flood plane introduces a
[21:40]
lot of issues building
[21:43]
» So I'd rather not sink that money into
[21:45]
the foundation.
[21:46]
» Yeah. No that's a a valid concern. I
[21:49]
think um we there are also I mean
[21:52]
remediation techniques that can be done
[21:55]
um to for the wetland. Um but if it is
[22:00]
um a general consensus that it would
[22:02]
rather not be something that the board
[22:05]
worries about then we can obviously
[22:07]
bring it up higher. I think um you'll
[22:09]
notice that some of these are weighted
[22:11]
the highest. So the first item, second
[22:13]
and third um have a particularly high
[22:16]
waiting. That's just because we find
[22:17]
that'll be the easiest for the for the
[22:19]
um board to acquire. Um and so we do
[22:23]
have everything else kind of based off
[22:25]
of what we find to be the most important
[22:29]
aspects. So, um we could always move
[22:32]
that up. I think it would be worth our
[22:34]
team taking a look at what else is
[22:35]
weighted high if we do adjust.
[22:39]
» Yeah, I don't think we necessarily need
[22:41]
to make the whole thing generically
[22:43]
higher or lower. I I would like to see
[22:45]
it broken out,
[22:46]
» Okay,
[22:47]
» Into if it's a seven acres or 12 acres
[22:50]
and small lot and it's not in a flood
[22:52]
plane,
[22:53]
» It goes up for me,
[22:54]
» But if it's seven acres,
[22:57]
it's not really viable for walking
[22:59]
paths.
[23:00]
» Yeah.
[23:01]
» So, I'd like to see it broken up if
[23:04]
possible.
[23:08]
» Landed on that call.
[23:11]
Yeah, I think I think we ended up moving
[23:13]
it up. I I can't remember if we started
[23:15]
at a one or two, but the idea was yeah,
[23:17]
that it needed to be more heavily
[23:19]
weighted. I think because of your
[23:21]
comments, Bernie, what we didn't do is
[23:23]
we didn't we we didn't differentiate
[23:25]
between how much land, you know, needs
[23:28]
to be available for a building for it to
[23:30]
be weighted higher. So, I think what you
[23:33]
were saying is that so let's let's just
[23:36]
go back to kind of our sample, right? We
[23:38]
is seven acres kind of the minimum site.
[23:40]
Actually, seven acres gets you parking
[23:43]
and get you the building. I guess
[23:45]
probably your point is if you can get
[23:47]
seven acres of land that's out of a
[23:50]
flood plane, that's higher.
[23:52]
» If you got 10 acres and seven of it's
[23:55]
out of the flood plane, that's good. The
[23:56]
other three we can work with.
[23:58]
» Yeah.
[23:59]
» So, yeah. and and that I think we were
[24:01]
struggling a little bit with how to kind
[24:02]
of differentiate the components,
[24:04]
» But maybe that's
[24:07]
» Maybe we go back and trying to take a
[24:08]
little bit of a stab at that. But but we
[24:10]
did try to increase the weight correct
[24:12]
to kind of to your point. So
[24:14]
» Yeah, maybe it's a reference point.
[24:15]
Maybe it's seven acres or maybe make it
[24:17]
a little bit bigger, not the 10.
[24:19]
» Yeah. Or maybe Yeah. So maybe maybe the
[24:21]
question maybe it's something like at
[24:22]
least you know at least seven acres is
[24:25]
outside the flood plane, right? And
[24:27]
again that's if so that's a again maybe
[24:29]
that's a five
[24:30]
» And we got to think towards expansion if
[24:32]
we right now we offer 10% in for
[24:34]
expansion we realize we growing
[24:37]
» Yeah so maybe it's at least 10 acres
[24:40]
» 15
[24:44]
be helpful
[24:54]
» Okay
[24:55]
» I think we talked on the call like item
[24:58]
one, two, and three kind of exclusive.
[25:00]
So you're only giving points for one of
[25:02]
those other
[25:06]
» Right
[25:08]
kind of
[25:09]
» Unique like that. You're only getting
[25:11]
points.
[25:12]
» Correct.
[25:22]
» Yeah. And then maybe Miss Watson to your
[25:24]
point I Item number four. So the site
[25:27]
provides adequate usable area for for
[25:30]
the proposed current scope. Again, we're
[25:32]
still working through what that scope
[25:33]
is,
[25:34]
» But the point I mean this is this is
[25:36]
weighted pretty high, right? It's
[25:38]
basically the land's got to, you know,
[25:40]
meet the scope um without being
[25:42]
oversized. [cough and clears throat] And
[25:44]
at some point as we get closer to the
[25:46]
final scoring, you're probably going to
[25:48]
have to start weighing in, you know,
[25:50]
whether or not it's got some outdoor
[25:52]
recreational space. Does that fit the
[25:54]
quote scope that we ultimately land on?
[26:00]
Again, it may not be an exact number,
[26:02]
and I think that's kind of where we've
[26:03]
landed that I don't know that we're
[26:05]
going to have an exact number of how
[26:06]
many how much additional land how much
[26:08]
additional land, you know, is adequate,
[26:11]
but we'll we know that it needs to be
[26:13]
something, right? We I think that's kind
[26:16]
of the message that the public has said
[26:18]
that it should have some outdoor
[26:19]
recreational value.
[26:22]
And when we if we get a site that shows
[26:24]
30 acres, that's going to score higher
[26:26]
than one that has 12, right?
[26:28]
» Because it's going to fit the scope
[26:30]
better,
[26:31]
» You know, in the long run. And the scope
[26:33]
is more outdoor a little more outdoor
[26:35]
recreational space.
[26:38]
» But again, we'll we'll score this as a
[26:40]
unit as uh as Sophia said. So So there's
[26:45]
still be kind of a chance to talk
[26:47]
through that. Yeah.
[26:48]
» As it relates to each site. And again,
[26:50]
we'll probably end up doing that in
[26:51]
executive session so we don't end up,
[26:53]
you know, letting the land owner know,
[26:55]
you know, where the preference might be.
[27:00]
» So with the um with that first site
[27:02]
features section, um I think that this
[27:06]
really is kind of like setting the whole
[27:07]
scene for what site it is. Um, so you
[27:11]
know, discussion of property owner, um,
[27:14]
what is the usable area, is there
[27:17]
significant regrading that needs to be
[27:18]
done. These are all things that likely
[27:20]
will kind of cost the board a little bit
[27:22]
more money. Um, so we're taking into
[27:24]
consideration all of those things.
[27:26]
» So 11, where it says existing site
[27:29]
features and amenities contribute to the
[27:31]
proposed development, are we talking
[27:32]
about like utilities or so? Um the
[27:36]
existing site features perhaps there is
[27:39]
um I know some of the sites are near um
[27:42]
some of the baseball fields um big
[27:44]
walnut high school. So you know that
[27:46]
would
[27:46]
» Be um a positive
[27:49]
» Uh feature for the site. So uh items
[27:52]
like that
[27:53]
» Or but yes utilities as well. Okay.
[28:01]
» Are there any additional questions on
[28:03]
the site features?
[28:07]
for any if so for 12 a site does not
[28:10]
require parcel assembly for multiple
[28:12]
owners. I mean to the extent that there
[28:14]
is a parcel that requires like assembly
[28:17]
for multiple owners I mean do we know
[28:19]
what the process is for that or will we
[28:22]
» Yeah. So um I mean I think that it would
[28:25]
really just be um I mean likely there is
[28:26]
a zoning um change but then also just
[28:30]
working with the local
[28:32]
» Okay. jurisdiction.
[28:42]
» Um I do think that it was a little bit
[28:44]
higher um because now it is just at a
[28:47]
three. We
[28:50]
um are not anticipating
[28:53]
much of a push back with that.
[29:06]
Well, the next one,
[29:07]
» Right? Uh, with zoning and legal, we did
[29:10]
uh take some of these down a little bit,
[29:11]
but um we have most of these ranked at
[29:14]
number one. Um, zoning allows proposed
[29:17]
use. Uh, current zoning provides
[29:19]
flexibility and potential uses of the of
[29:22]
the property. um no overlay districts um
[29:27]
requiring restrictions um and then no
[29:30]
additional commission approvals are
[29:32]
required. So um you know zoning is
[29:34]
something that can be changed relatively
[29:36]
easily working with um your local
[29:39]
jurisdiction but uh it would save time
[29:42]
and funds not having to reszone. So that
[29:46]
was the thought process behind that
[29:47]
being the highest weighted item um for
[29:50]
number 17. I know that um I believe uh
[29:54]
Sunberry and Galina just have their own
[29:57]
um commissions, but then uh with
[29:59]
Berkshire Township, you would have to go
[30:01]
through the Delaware County um
[30:03]
commission, which might take a little
[30:04]
bit more time. So, we we have that one
[30:06]
on there specifically just because of
[30:08]
the jurisdictional requirements.
[30:16]
Any
[30:23]
comments on zoning
[30:26]
» For so for the liquor license
[30:27]
availability is that for like you know
[30:29]
flex space uses and yeah so future use
[30:32]
if you ever wanted to host events I mean
[30:34]
we haven't really talked about event
[30:35]
space or multi-purpose but um flex
[30:38]
future expansion anything like
[30:54]
I can um move on to site context if
[30:57]
there are no more questions regarding
[30:58]
that. Um so with the site context, this
[31:01]
is really about kind of the use of the
[31:03]
site and what the space is. So, um, we
[31:06]
have a number of different items on
[31:07]
here, but proposed community center
[31:09]
would benefit from nearby and existing
[31:12]
development, support services, and
[31:13]
amenities. Um, I think
[31:18]
we we increased this one a little bit,
[31:20]
but not by much. Um, it is still
[31:23]
weighted at a four, so pretty moderate.
[31:25]
I think comparing what is surrounding
[31:28]
it, if it's in an industrial space, we
[31:32]
would likely consider that site a little
[31:34]
bit less than something that was perhaps
[31:35]
in a residential area or closer to the
[31:38]
schools. So, making sure that the
[31:40]
development fits within what is
[31:42]
surrounding it um the context of the
[31:44]
site, but then also existing
[31:46]
adjacencies.
[31:48]
um providing uh visibility support civic
[31:51]
presence landmarks. So something that's
[31:53]
maybe closer located to the uh downtown
[31:56]
or the core of one of the EDJRD
[32:00]
um members. But then we also have uh
[32:04]
community supports the proposed
[32:05]
development and location. And so we
[32:07]
found through our survey that there were
[32:10]
there was an overwhelming amount of
[32:11]
support. But I think um depending on
[32:14]
where this is located, if it's closer to
[32:16]
residential, closer to schools, we found
[32:18]
that those uh items or those locations
[32:22]
were more highly requested. So, um a
[32:25]
little bit more about where the general
[32:27]
area for a site would be.
[32:34]
For number 18, it states uh there would
[32:38]
be nearby existing development. What
[32:40]
about any future upcoming development
[32:43]
that is in the works? Are you take that
[32:45]
into account as well then or
[32:47]
» Yes. So, uh we are taking that into
[32:49]
account especially the work that Rick
[32:50]
did. Um the urban decision group sites
[32:53]
uh showed a lot of proposed development.
[32:55]
So that is definitely something that we
[32:56]
will be taking into consideration. Um
[33:01]
number 20 is proposed development will
[33:03]
positively impact adjacent future
[33:05]
development. So I think that we feel
[33:07]
that is covered under that item. But um
[33:11]
with this grouping of criteria in
[33:14]
particular, we'll be heavily relying on
[33:16]
Rick's information and what he collected
[33:19]
um especially in the maps that he made.
[33:21]
So showing where it is located or where
[33:24]
potential sites are located in context
[33:27]
to proposed development of residential
[33:30]
space but also uh residential and then
[33:33]
also the other potential or other
[33:36]
facilities surrounding the area.
[33:38]
» Okay.
[33:43]
» Yeah. And I I would just add a little
[33:44]
bit related to that item 31 under
[33:47]
economic opportunities and benefits. The
[33:49]
proposed development will encourage you
[33:51]
know adjacent private development that
[33:53]
creates positive economic impact. So so
[33:55]
the first one seems to suggest that you
[33:57]
know that something is about to happen.
[33:59]
The other one maybe suggests that it
[34:01]
could encourage that to happen. What's
[34:03]
up?
[34:21]
just for my understanding context. Uh
[34:24]
could you define community partners? I
[34:26]
have something in mind. What does it
[34:27]
mean to you?
[34:28]
» So I think it is subjective that that
[34:30]
certainly is um the case but also you
[34:32]
know there are a number of new um
[34:35]
residential developments going in. So
[34:37]
perhaps if there was a desire to swap or
[34:42]
donate some land so that there would be
[34:44]
a community center nearby. So I think
[34:45]
community partner could be the schools,
[34:48]
it could be a private developer, it
[34:49]
could be um village of Galina or
[34:53]
Sunberry um a community partner in that
[34:55]
aspect. So I think it's uh just a an
[34:59]
entity willing to work with our team.
[35:04]
» Okay.
[35:27]
» [clears throat and cough]
[35:27]
» I know my notes stated quite a bit
[35:29]
higher, but I that's why I wanted to
[35:31]
clarify what community partner meant,
[35:32]
how that worked together. Um, I had it
[35:35]
significantly higher
[35:38]
because I want this to be a community
[35:41]
center. I don't want this to be in the
[35:43]
corner of our jurisdiction and nobody's
[35:45]
around. I need this to be part of
[35:46]
everybody else.
[35:47]
» Yeah.
[35:47]
» In heart.
[35:49]
» That's why I think it's important to be
[35:51]
cognizant of our community partners, who
[35:54]
they are, what their plans are, talk to
[35:55]
them, work with them, grow with them.
[36:00]
» Yeah,
[36:02]
» We we do think that um the community
[36:04]
partners is a very important aspect to
[36:07]
this development. I think like I
[36:09]
mentioned earlier having um utilities
[36:12]
and the site context some items in that
[36:14]
weighted particularly higher. We wanted
[36:15]
to make sure that it was all relative.
[36:17]
Um I think that with um community
[36:20]
support of the development but then also
[36:23]
um we have number 18 rated relatively
[36:26]
weighted weighted relatively high. Um we
[36:29]
think that these are going to positively
[36:32]
impact uh just based on the community
[36:35]
support. Okay.
[36:40]
One take away I had was there several
[36:42]
items.
[36:45]
» Yeah.
[36:46]
» Look at it as a whole.
[36:51]
» Yeah.
[36:58]
» Great.
[37:00]
» Um so utilities, both of these are rated
[37:03]
pretty highly. We only have two items.
[37:05]
Um, we find that it can be like
[37:08]
relatively subjective when you're
[37:09]
reviewing utilities and we have had
[37:11]
enough experience with projects where
[37:13]
utilities are either not available on
[37:15]
the site or uh located right relatively
[37:19]
far away. And so we find that these are
[37:20]
two very important um aspects when
[37:23]
considering a site. So, um, if they're
[37:25]
not already on the site or very closely
[37:28]
adjacent, we find that, um, 500 ft is a
[37:31]
relatively acceptable distance, um, just
[37:34]
based on previous experience for how
[37:36]
much it would be to extend a utility,
[37:38]
um, along with any tapping capacity fees
[37:40]
usually. So, if it is not adjacent or on
[37:43]
the site itself, we still have an
[37:45]
opportunity to provide some points
[37:48]
rather than just saying they're there
[37:49]
are no utilities available on the site.
[37:51]
So if they're not on the site directly
[37:54]
um they should be within 500 ft and you
[37:57]
know very similarly say three utilities
[38:01]
are available there's water sewer
[38:03]
electric but there's no um power or I
[38:05]
mean I'm sorry you know there are some
[38:08]
available utilities but they're not all
[38:10]
available then you could also rank that
[38:12]
second option um with that as well and
[38:16]
the profiles that we'll provide to you
[38:18]
um will have at least some information
[38:20]
regarding starting utilities um and what
[38:22]
is available.
[38:24]
So, you won't have to find find that out
[38:26]
on your own. We'll we'll figure that
[38:28]
out.
[38:30]
» Yeah. I've been told several times that
[38:32]
sewer is the name of the game you're out
[38:34]
here. So,
[38:35]
» Yeah,
[38:35]
» That to me ranks a lot higher other
[38:38]
ones.
[38:39]
» Yes. Yeah. Um
[38:40]
» That out.
[38:41]
» Yeah, we we um have had a few projects
[38:44]
up in this area that utilities are not
[38:47]
available. Um, and you'll find out
[38:49]
either a little bit later than you would
[38:51]
like to. So, we're making sure that this
[38:52]
is definitely a priority when we're
[38:54]
reviewing these sites.
[38:57]
» Now, when I went to the new wall with
[39:00]
the fieldhouse, they mentioned they have
[39:02]
their they planned everything to go on
[39:04]
septic.
[39:05]
» Yeah.
[39:06]
» And in the process, they got soup. So,
[39:08]
that's big s. So, that's always another
[39:10]
option to explore it. But
[39:13]
» So they um I'm the project manager for
[39:17]
that as well. Um and we had started with
[39:20]
septic and then it was proving to be a
[39:23]
little bit difficult to find a septic
[39:24]
tank that is of that size that you would
[39:26]
need for a facility that size. Um it is
[39:28]
definitely possible but um it is just a
[39:30]
more expensive option.
[39:32]
» Yeah.
[39:32]
» Yeah. They mentioned the cost was about
[39:34]
half.
[39:35]
» Yeah. There are additional um facilities
[39:37]
that you have to build too um when you
[39:39]
do septic. So Okay. Um it is it is
[39:42]
always an option. It would not be our
[39:44]
first choice but it is an option.
[39:54]
Um moving on to access. So this uh has a
[39:57]
few different aspects in it. Um you know
[40:00]
there are areas of the EDC JRD that are
[40:04]
relatively rural. So um that brings down
[40:07]
a few things. Obviously access to the
[40:08]
site. you might need to uh invest in
[40:11]
some additional roadway improvements or
[40:14]
any roadway, but also um then that also
[40:17]
takes down the um potential users of the
[40:22]
space. So um that's another one um that
[40:25]
will kind of have multiple impacts and
[40:26]
things leading to it. But um with this
[40:29]
list in particular, surrounding
[40:30]
conditions and capacity of the roadway
[40:33]
um of local or state traffic will
[40:36]
support the development um making sure
[40:38]
that it's not just you know um perhaps a
[40:41]
a grapple road. Um and then proposed
[40:45]
location needs or requirements
[40:46]
identified in the market analysis. So,
[40:48]
like what we were discussing with Rick
[40:50]
and his proposed developments or just
[40:53]
location to surrounding um residents.
[41:00]
We also added um item 30 to this list.
[41:03]
Um Darl mentioned that uh the Morph
[41:06]
Greenway paths and trail plans could
[41:08]
help um pull in some potential shared
[41:10]
use path options. And so making sure
[41:12]
that there is still connection
[41:13]
throughout the surrounding district. Um
[41:16]
so making sure that we include that in
[41:19]
connectors for shared use paths
[41:34]
for access um and tying in community
[41:38]
partners. Have there been any thought to
[41:42]
connecting with the fire department to
[41:45]
ask them
[41:46]
If you had it your way, were there any
[41:48]
short are there any shortcuts? Can we
[41:50]
help with that somehow one way or
[41:52]
another? I'm just kind of thinking
[41:53]
because I I think that was brought up by
[41:55]
a resident that said, "Hey, that
[41:57]
» Fire department would love to have a
[41:58]
road here. They just can't pay. There's
[42:01]
no reason to have a road here, but if
[42:02]
that could help, why not?"
[42:04]
» Yeah,
[42:06]
» Just a thought
[42:08]
as well.
[42:09]
» Yeah, that's a really great idea.
[42:19]
any additional questions with access.
[42:23]
So then our final um final is the
[42:26]
economic development opportunities and
[42:28]
benefits. So this is more about what the
[42:30]
proposed development of the surrounding
[42:32]
area could be. Um location features are
[42:35]
pos uh I'm sorry positive and marketable
[42:37]
for events. um local incentives are
[42:40]
available for development um potential
[42:42]
for cost sharing. So very similar to
[42:44]
what you just mentioned, you know,
[42:45]
potential cost sharing and extending a
[42:46]
roadway. Um but then also development of
[42:49]
the proposed site will not reduce future
[42:52]
taxable property to prevent um new
[42:55]
private development. So, they're similar
[42:57]
to what we talked about earlier. Having
[42:58]
a site that would be in the middle of an
[43:01]
industrial space might not be the best
[43:03]
location um context wise, but also then
[43:06]
economic development wise for the uh
[43:09]
EDJRD
[43:11]
um members. So, taking some
[43:13]
consideration into that. Obviously, I
[43:15]
think that there are plenty of very
[43:19]
desirable sites that we are looking at
[43:21]
right now. So I don't really see that as
[43:22]
an issue, but it is something that we'll
[43:24]
consider making sure that the taxable
[43:26]
revenue is not taken away from the
[43:27]
jurisdictions.
[43:36]
We also uh considered the positive and
[43:40]
marketable um area. Um,
[43:45]
and when we were thinking about this,
[43:47]
you know, uh, we talked about the
[43:49]
location and using urban decision groups
[43:52]
site work, um, and taking that into
[43:54]
consideration. And
[43:57]
we find that, um, you know, it will
[44:00]
likely be positive and marketable for
[44:03]
the community no matter where it is
[44:04]
likely. So, um, we we felt comfortable
[44:07]
with we I think we brought it up maybe
[44:09]
one or two points, not um, a large
[44:12]
amount, but we felt that this would make
[44:15]
it wherever the site is going to be real
[44:18]
really would make it more marketable for
[44:20]
community use or also just community
[44:23]
development.
[44:34]
So you're referencing number 32. Is that
[44:36]
correct? Facilities location are
[44:39]
» Yes.
[44:40]
» It's still on mention it went up.
[44:44]
» Um
[44:53]
» I'll have to go back and look at my
[44:54]
notes, but perhaps it's supposed to be a
[44:56]
two.
[45:04]
Yeah, from my perspective if if if
[45:08]
say that one be positive and remarkable
[45:10]
is only ranked at one and if it's
[45:13]
negative and not marketable and zero
[45:15]
that's one point big I think should be
[45:18]
quite high from my perspective I think
[45:20]
it will with all of it [clears throat]
[45:22]
to rank
[45:30]
Are there any questions about the
[45:32]
criteria that we mentioned um or
[45:35]
discussed? Um I think that as far as
[45:38]
next steps if uh there is an approval
[45:41]
from the board then we will start our
[45:44]
review um as quickly as possible um so
[45:47]
that we can get it into
[45:49]
that so that we can schedule a meeting
[45:51]
to review with the EDJR board as well.
[45:55]
» Do you need approval tonight to this
[45:58]
schedule?
[46:00]
Slide eight. Um, I think that that would
[46:05]
uh be
[46:08]
likely the best. Obviously, we can wait.
[46:10]
Um, but that just would push the
[46:11]
schedule back. And if it's a discussion
[46:13]
that needs to be had offline, then um or
[46:18]
just in an executive session with your
[46:19]
team, that's that's okay. But if it
[46:21]
needs to wait until another board
[46:22]
meeting, then obviously it will just
[46:24]
impact the schedule.
[46:25]
» Correct. Waiting full.
[46:28]
» Yeah. all together.
[46:31]
I just want to make sure that the other
[46:32]
board members here have a chance to kind
[46:34]
of sit, dissect, and absorb
[46:38]
because there's a lot here. And I guess
[46:40]
the one question I also have is these
[46:43]
are are good. Then we get sites back,
[46:46]
oh, this is what the rain does. We still
[46:48]
have the latitude to use our judgment.
[46:51]
» Yeah.
[46:51]
» Just because it rated high doesn't mean
[46:53]
that's that's
[46:54]
» Yeah, absolutely.
[47:00]
discuss.
[47:04]
» Yes.
[47:08]
» Yes. So I I was writing down I mean
[47:10]
maybe if we change the way it's written.
[47:12]
So again maybe at least 10 acres is
[47:15]
outside of the flood plane and that way
[47:17]
you know you've got
[47:19]
» A 90,000 square foot building that you
[47:21]
know fits comfortably in the space. um
[47:25]
you know maybe that it's so again it
[47:27]
sort of and if something comes in that's
[47:29]
less than that you know it's scoring low
[47:31]
and it's and it's waiting factor I mean
[47:35]
I guess it yeah by scoring low the
[47:37]
waiting factor doesn't lift it up any
[47:39]
but if it if it's at least 10 acres it's
[47:42]
outside the flood plane and it meets you
[47:44]
know the building footprint issue scores
[47:47]
high on that front it gets weighted the
[47:49]
court three four whatever the number
[47:50]
might be maybe that's a way to at least
[47:52]
get keep them moving
[47:54]
in the evaluation and then when we get
[47:56]
together as a group
[47:57]
» We can sort through it if anybody's sort
[47:59]
of on the margins.
[48:02]
» Yeah. And that's one of the things I'm
[48:04]
struggling with is that this is all
[48:05]
geared to the site and building. We have
[48:09]
two simultaneous paths where we have
[48:11]
site building and potentially outside
[48:14]
area. So
[48:16]
» Just try to see how to balance that in a
[48:19]
criteria like this.
[48:22]
So if we could change number nine to
[48:25]
state whether
[48:30]
I think
[48:38]
» I'm sorry to what did you say?
[48:43]
» I didn't hear what you said.
[48:56]
for the flood plane. I I would say so.
[48:59]
» I think it is going to hit.
[49:11]
» I would say that is reasonable.
[49:19]
» That's the hard part. We're setting
[49:20]
criteria. We don't I feel like once you
[49:23]
see the site now used to go like
[49:29]
I'll get
[49:31]
sites
[49:36]
all
[49:55]
explore creative
[49:58]
site that meets a whole lot of criteria
[50:03]
that might start.
[50:10]
So I think this
[50:19]
» Five
[50:34]
sit back here.
[50:40]
They don't come together.
[51:06]
Yeah. And as we have your team rank
[51:09]
them, I think especially your priorities
[51:11]
as a board and what the site is are
[51:14]
going to come into play um more than
[51:16]
just our like technical expertise. what
[51:18]
you want out of out of the building and
[51:20]
out of the program is going to be
[51:22]
something that's incredibly important
[51:23]
and it might change and differ from what
[51:26]
our rankings are, but that's why we have
[51:28]
you included in those as well.
[51:31]
» So, so really this is just a guide to
[51:34]
help us think through everything that we
[51:36]
want to think. But the the the goal at
[51:38]
the end of the day is not to say this
[51:39]
scored, you know, a 123 and that was
[51:42]
124. So, we're going with 124.
[51:57]
down.
[51:59]
So
[52:09]
really just
[52:13]
Yeah.
[52:37]
How long?
[52:56]
So we got to go back.
[53:11]
This is the criteria.
[53:27]
» Thank you.
[53:38]
All right. Forward.
[53:39]
» So, go ahead.
[53:40]
» Yeah, I was gonna say, so we do we do
[53:41]
have a motion to approve the criteria.
[53:43]
So, maybe what I'm hearing is again,
[53:45]
we're going to amend the language in
[53:47]
item number three.
[53:50]
Uh, you know, to say it I don't know, is
[53:52]
it 10 or 15? I don't mean number nine.
[53:56]
I'm sorry. Number nine. Number nine.
[53:58]
Yeah. Waited three. Sorry. Um, at least
[54:02]
you know 10 acres is outside the flood
[54:03]
plane. At least 15 acres.
[54:08]
» I'd air on the side of 15.
[54:11]
» I'm okay with that.
[54:14]
» Okay.
[54:16]
So then with that change, like I said,
[54:19]
there's a motion to basically then
[54:20]
accept the criteria, allow them to do
[54:22]
their ranking, then we'll come back as a
[54:24]
board, see the top, you know, whatever
[54:26]
five, three, five, 3, four, five, six,
[54:29]
whatever that number looks like. We'll
[54:32]
talk about it in an executive session,
[54:34]
and we'll come out, I think, with a good
[54:36]
sense of which ones we think are top of
[54:37]
the list. And then they'll go out and
[54:39]
start seeing if there's a way to secure
[54:40]
the site.
[54:43]
I mean, there's also some site.
[54:46]
» They got to fit the site, too. Yeah. I
[54:47]
guess we wouldn't secure the site right
[54:49]
away. We got to make sure it fit. So,
[54:54]
» So is there a motion? Yeah,
[54:55]
» I'll make the motion.
[54:57]
» All right. Second resolution 05. So,
[55:01]
moved by Miss Watson, seconded by Mr.
[55:03]
Koy.
[55:07]
All right. Miss Miss Watson,
[55:09]
» Yes.
[55:09]
» Mr. Koy,
[55:10]
» Yes.
[55:10]
» Miss Greor,
[55:12]
» Yes.
[55:13]
» Mr. Muzakio,
[55:14]
» Yes.
[55:14]
» Miss Savannah,
[55:15]
» Yes.
[55:16]
» Motion approved. 5 Z. Great. Thanks.
[55:21]
Thank you.
[55:25]
Next item on the agenda. So, we did
[55:28]
resolution 202605. Next would be 2026
[55:32]
budget update.
[55:34]
» Um, I'm sorry. I hate to do this, but
[55:36]
can we maybe go back to the meeting
[55:37]
minutes?
[55:39]
Jody, if you
[55:43]
I was not present
[55:48]
but said on here the meeting was May
[55:51]
21st on Sunday but I think
[55:59]
so that's where earlier
[56:02]
Sunday
[56:08]
» So Sunday was Sunday was the Sunday the
[56:11]
17th was
[56:12]
» Sunday
[56:14]
» And then Thursday the 21st
[56:21]
» Yeah.
[56:23]
» So the date and the mixed up
[56:27]
» Think so I think
[56:29]
» I just know I had day on 18th Sunday it
[56:33]
was setting up
[56:35]
Sunday.
[56:38]
» Yeah. So, so these
[56:42]
» So I think page two of the materials the
[56:45]
second line it should say um Thursday
[56:48]
May 21st.
[56:49]
» Yeah.
[56:54]
» Good catch.
[56:57]
» Well
[56:57]
» Yeah that was all Jody
[57:00]
» And then because we had approved the May
[57:02]
17th meeting minutes which is reflected
[57:06]
in our minutes. See, I think if we just
[57:07]
change Sunday to Thursday, we got it.
[57:10]
So, I guess
[57:12]
» Oh, I I'm sorry. I see where you are. I
[57:14]
was down under the minutes. Yes,
[57:16]
Thursday. Got it. Thursday, May 21st.
[57:19]
All right. Why don't we uh why don't we
[57:21]
reapprove the minutes then with that
[57:23]
correction. So, we'll say uh amended
[57:28]
minutes.
[57:30]
So, we've got two amendments. We've got
[57:32]
the the date as in Thursday
[57:37]
May 21
[57:40]
and we've got then the motion the move
[57:43]
and approval of resolution 04 which we
[57:46]
get corrected in the first minutes.
[57:52]
» So
[57:55]
» We have a motion to approve the
[58:00]
» I'll second. So moved by Miss Greger,
[58:04]
second by Miss Watson.
[58:11]
» All right. Miss Greger.
[58:12]
» Yes.
[58:13]
» Miss Watson.
[58:14]
» Yes.
[58:14]
» Miss Savvada.
[58:16]
» Yes.
[58:16]
» Mr. Mazakio.
[58:18]
» Yes.
[58:18]
» And Mr. Koy.
[58:20]
» Yes.
[58:20]
» Five years. Motion approved.
[58:24]
Great. Thank you.
[58:29]
All right. The only other item in the
[58:31]
agenda just uh a snapshot of where we
[58:33]
are with respect to the budget. So at
[58:36]
the last meeting we amended the budget.
[58:38]
So you see the amended budget on packet
[58:40]
page 19.
[58:43]
Um
[58:45]
as we talked about um you know we will
[58:48]
have to get some funding in place for
[58:50]
accounting and audit purposes. We had
[58:53]
talked about maybe going back to the
[58:54]
jurisdictions and asking for the funds
[58:56]
that were not spent in 2025.
[58:59]
uh would they be willing to appropriate
[59:01]
those moving forward that ended up being
[59:02]
a little short of $10,000?
[59:05]
Um so the way to kind of think about
[59:07]
that um Sunbury would be at 46 46 and a
[59:12]
half% of that Berkshire 43.9 Galina at
[59:15]
9.7. I I'll put that together for the
[59:18]
next meeting so we know the exact
[59:19]
amounts that we're requesting. Um, I I
[59:23]
will say that Sunbury has uh already
[59:26]
approved an amendment allowing for that
[59:28]
additional appropriation. So, so we've
[59:31]
at least secured that, but I'll I'll get
[59:33]
the exact numbers and bring those back
[59:34]
and we'll get that cleaned up. So,
[59:39]
other than that, that is it on the on
[59:41]
the budget.
[59:59]
Next item is information.
[1:00:03]
Any discussion?
[1:00:09]
Then we go to next meeting before we
[1:00:11]
adjourn. Yes.
[1:00:18]
So
[1:00:18]
» In the schedule you had suggested some
[1:00:20]
dates. Sophia, you want to start by
[1:00:22]
throwing those out again?
[1:00:23]
» Yeah.
[1:00:26]
» 21st.
[1:00:34]
» I'm sorry. Was the 20th one of them or
[1:00:36]
was it the 21st and 22? 21st.
[1:00:43]
» All right. So let's see.
[1:00:50]
The 21st is a Tuesday.
[1:00:53]
» Would we be look since it's probably a
[1:00:55]
two-hour meeting, would we be looking to
[1:00:56]
start at what six?
[1:01:00]
That works.
[1:01:02]
» So, I can't be in person on the first
[1:01:04]
two, but I could on the second two.
[1:01:08]
I could probably do virtual on first two
[1:01:12]
for the 21st, 22.
[1:01:15]
I would be traveling. So,
[1:01:20]
» I can do any of those dates.
[1:01:24]
» It would be better for me if we could do
[1:01:26]
it on the 29th and 30th. But if more
[1:01:28]
people cannot do that,
[1:01:39]
» You can do the third. Okay. All four is
[1:01:42]
fine.
[1:01:44]
That's great. [laughter]
[1:01:46]
We'll
[1:01:46]
» Accommodate your
[1:01:50]
» Go for Thursday 30th
[1:01:55]
» At 6 p.m.
[1:02:03]
» Yes, that' be good.
[1:02:10]
All right, we want to move that back to
[1:02:11]
Sunbury then
[1:02:13]
» Because I think Sunbury would be next in
[1:02:15]
the rotation.
[1:02:22]
All right.
[1:02:25]
July 30
[1:02:28]
6 p.m. December. And just for planning
[1:02:33]
purposes, will we be getting a like a
[1:02:35]
packet before that meeting to start
[1:02:37]
looking through?
[1:02:38]
» Yeah.
[1:02:39]
» Okay. That
[1:02:55]
» Yeah, that would be ideal.
[1:03:12]
Yeah. So, on that, I'll need to I'll
[1:03:14]
need to talk to Becky just a little bit
[1:03:16]
about the documents um just to make sure
[1:03:19]
we can
[1:03:22]
protect those a little bit. So, I've got
[1:03:24]
a little bit of work to do on that. So,
[1:03:29]
Okay,
[1:03:31]
» Perfect. And I'll make a motion to
[1:03:34]
adjurnn.
[1:03:37]
» I'll second.
[1:03:39]
» All right. Moved by Mr. Koy, seconded by
[1:03:41]
Miss Sabata. Uh, Mr. Koy.
[1:03:44]
» Yes.
[1:03:45]
» Sabata.
[1:03:45]
» Yes.
[1:03:46]
» Mr. Mazakio.
[1:03:47]
» Yes.
[1:03:48]
» Uh, Miss Greger.
[1:03:49]
» Yes.
[1:03:50]
» And Miss Watson,
[1:03:51]
» Yes.
[1:03:52]
» Uh, five years. We are adjourned.
[1:03:56]
Turn up.