[0:02] Okay. So, I need 500 of these things.

[0:08] » There's December. >> I think you might be exaggerating. Okay.

[0:14] » December from last year and then that's January and then that's the current

[0:19] » adjustments bills we paid.

[0:23] » And then these are they have to produce additional ones

[0:27] on. >> Okay. Sounds good.

[0:30] That's the Lions District 7, the festival sponsored.

[0:34] » Got the >> I knew what it was.

[0:36] » The convention, right? >> In my head, I was like,

[0:39] » she asked me today. She's like, remind me again cuz somebody's going to ask

[0:43] because it's a weird one. >> Festival.

[0:45] » Yeah. >> So, the festival sponsor of the Lions

[0:48] convention.

[0:53] » Okay. So, we'll call the finance committee

[0:58] meeting. um to order at 6:32 on March 12th.

[1:04] Um call to order. >> Uh Michelle Nol.

[1:06] » Yes. >> Penguin.

[1:08] » Yes. >> Cory Harrier.

[1:09] » Yes. >> And then have we had a chance to review

[1:12] the minutes yet? >> I

[1:15] did. >> I did too. I'll make a motion to accept

[1:18] the minutes from February 12th, 2026 finance committee.

[1:21] » I'll second. >> Okay. All in favor say I.

[1:24] » I. >> I.

[1:26] » Okay. We'll move to the approval of the February 2026 docks.

[2:13] No, there's >> Well, there's there's old ones that'll

[2:17] be given. Yeah, there'll be December's is I

[2:21] believe there was December, but January and February were both clean.

[2:27] We had a couple in there. Trust is for 18,000.

[2:31] 18,000. What is that from?

[2:36] What you looking? Private purpose trust 2.346.

[2:40] It's on the fund status. It's 18,000. Is that report? No, that should be your

[2:47] festival. >> Oh, okay. Is that the 9903

[2:50] 9976? >> Oh, no. It's 9976.

[2:54] » Unclean funds. >> 9976 is your Walnut Creek Sewer District

[3:00] » deposits. Deposits. >> Make sure I'm saying that right. Yes.

[3:06] » Cool. I'll probably have asked that 17,624

[3:11] times, but it's okay. So on queen supplies, what do I I'm sure that's for

[3:16] the queens for the festival. What's like do we have background or what we use

[3:20] that for? >> Yeah. So um that's your blanket PO,

[3:24] right? >> Yeah.

[3:25] » Or your PO for that. So their supplies for their sashes, their crowns, all

[3:30] those different things and pieces of parts and then again the school, the

[3:33] village doesn't supplement their funding. They have to raise what they

[3:37] spend and then they have a carryover. So,

[3:39] » okay. >> We We're not

[3:41] » because it goes through our books, we have to do that, but we're not paying

[3:44] » paying for it. >> Same thing with the festival.

[3:47] » Yep.

[3:56] » Do you want you want fun? >> Me, too.

[4:02] » Right. >> I have some. I just haven't had time to

[4:05] file for it. >> I have some, too. I need to do it, but

[4:08] It's on the list. >> Yeah, me too.

[5:18] Then by Ohio I guess I should Ohio work workers comp.

[5:23] » Uhhuh. It says 810, but then beside it, it says tuneup.

[5:27] » We every at the end of every year we have to do a tuneup. So anything we have

[5:33] to add everybody's wages and then anybody that I give a 1099 like

[5:38] » So you're just you have to do tuneup and pay the difference. That's the

[5:42] difference that I had to pay this year. >> Okay.

[5:44] » On the tuneup.

[5:53] 167 and change is just a regular monthly payments.

[5:59] » Okay.

[6:52] So, so on the one for the receipts, the cash journal

[6:56] It actually instead of like a company name it says Peasantville and says paid

[7:00] last minute. >> It's just like 921

[7:05] » remove late penalty >> on your consumption report or in your

[7:07] water report. >> Oh 921

[7:11] » was it water for one of one of our buildings?

[7:14] » When we key in a like when they pay with their debit card or credit cards like

[7:19] when they call the office and make a payment

[7:22] » Uhhuh. We have to physically key that.

[7:25] » Okay. >> In like Sam has to key it into the

[7:29] utility billing. >> Yeah.

[7:30] » Yeah. That's >> Then that payment if we don't turn

[7:34] around and do it again, we can't pull it in.

[7:38] » So if we like if you call me and take I take a payment over the phone.

[7:43] » Yeah. and I enter that into our system, it doesn't post

[7:48] » on their system and I don't see it in the transaction report until tomorrow

[7:52] the next. >> So people who do last minute payments

[7:56] like on the 15th when I'm doing shut offs.

[7:58] » Okay. >> So this person must state fee that they

[8:01] paid last minute because it's only like 921.

[8:04] » We probably took it off >> because they made the payment on the

[8:07] 15th but we don't see the payment >> till the 16th. We do see the payment,

[8:11] but when I post slate fees, >> I don't I post it to everybody and then

[8:16] I went in because he had paid that payment on time,

[8:19] » but I couldn't post it because I didn't have a transaction code or anything.

[8:23] » Okay. >> So, I went back in and took that off.

[8:26] » Gotcha. >> Because I can't take one out of, you

[8:29] know, 500 out. You know what I mean? Right. Right. But there's no way

[8:34] official seal to be fixed on the 8th of January.

[8:37] » So basically it was >> it was it was paid. It was just

[8:43] » unless you go in and pay it online yourself.

[8:49] » Yeah. >> But if I key it, there's a day lag,

[8:52] » right, >> as to when it shows up in the

[8:54] transaction report. >> Yeah, it makes sense.

[8:56] » Thank you. >> Bob should have got one. And

[8:59] » what happened? What's wrong with something with the

[9:02] made a mistake on their form. >> Board of Elections.

[9:06] » Oh, >> the date that they signed it is 2029

[9:09] versus 2026. >> Well, you don't even have to apply next

[9:13] time. >> Yeah,

[9:15] » we're done. >> So, you may want to call

[9:18] » I will gladly call her. >> Let her know that Councilwoman Harrier.

[9:23] » No, don't call her. >> Next, I'll have an audit.

[9:27] » Well, I don't know if the board of elections audit. So,

[9:29] » people know people.

[9:33] I didn't even I didn't to be honest. I didn't I made a copy and didn't even

[9:36] look at >> I didn't even look at them either.

[9:38] » Actually, what's funny is all that

[9:43] » becant

[9:59] and He's a full sunshine.

[10:18] » Right.

[10:21] » I told my job the other day that I was going to take a day off work on my

[10:25] resume. Appreciate

[10:30] I was having a bad day.

[10:55] Excuse me.

[10:59] » Oh, that's okay.

[11:07] Four of seven said a resolution.

[11:13] When I changed everything, I made sure every name was correct because I missed

[11:18] ABC and I just copied and pasted.

[11:24] Are you kidding me? Should I have plenty of scratch paper if you need?

[11:30] » I got a whole box. >> So, Samuel King.

[11:34] » I don't think I've seen that name before.

[11:35] » That's officer. >> That's officer.

[11:38] » I was just think Officer. >> Yeah.

[11:43] » Yeah.

[12:18] I say that they need the bill to pay. >> I tease them. I tease Jason. He's

[12:23] grounded all the time. So Excuse

[12:40] me.

[12:58] I think

[13:04] » they were

[13:11] » here was one of our

[13:14] » lifeards. >> She was one of my life.

[13:24] No, this was number two.

[13:28] » I was number one. >> No, this is what

[13:31] » the daughter just the shy of you, I think.

[13:39] » He looked like he was ill to begin with. He had a big scar on his chest.

[13:43] » I think he had heart surgery or something.

[13:45] » He did. He had >> he had um something

[13:49] » like the DV

[13:53] » because he was there. >> But can we broke

[13:58] » and then they worked on him for 45 minutes and couldn't resuscitate him.

[14:01] » Well, they could but

[14:23] for five years.

[14:26] » Easy.

[14:32] » He had two open heart surgeries. >> Poor baby.

[14:39] » Poor little baby.

[14:44] I don't think that

[15:19] I don't want to see your next EPA report.

[15:23] » It's not ever going to be good anymore. >> I know.

[15:31] » Does any of our stuff qualify for that 11% discount?

[15:35] Yeah. >> Oh, honey. Casey hits that like nobody's

[15:38] business. You'll hold stuff to go to that.

[15:41] » They buy stuff. The new compressor%

[15:48] » 11% is a lot of money. >> Yeah, it is.

[15:51] » I mean, $200 or $300.

[15:56] I'm not

[16:00] » Casey can tell you when every 11% IS GOING

[16:12] SOMETHING WHILE IT'S NOT going to

[16:19] » you

[16:26] I forgot.

[16:43] » Your little kiddo better. >> Yes, luckily. Sorry I haven't missed it.

[16:48] » Oh, that's all right. We're going to hear all about it later.

[16:51] » Okay.

[17:06] » Yeah, it's in the package. Your package is up there. It says it's on the right

[17:10] hand side. >> I didn't have enough space in my table

[17:13] area. >> It was cluttering me. Sorry.

[17:23] I would like to have one of these, but I want one that looks that I can peel off.

[17:43] I was wonder

[18:05] » and they're the right You have travel like this.

[18:23] » Oh, sorry.

[18:28] » Yeah. One's NSF.

[18:34] » That's what he said. I'm just >> I'm just not trying to be a

[18:41] » No, that's I thought I missed something because

[18:44] » I get to look at it first then I'm >> You're good. I thought I missed

[18:48] something. I thought What the heck? It's been a day.

[18:52] » Yeah, >> Penny normally sends stuff by email,

[18:54] which I love, but that stuff it takes time to

[18:58] » Sorry. And I meant to send it earlier. >> Oh, no. Don't be sorry. It's part of the

[19:01] gig. >> I got to get in the habit of doing it

[19:04] earlier. We're just glad you do it.

[19:21] » 12 days.

[20:24] Okay. So, do we have an approval of the February 2026 documents?

[20:30] » I'll make a motion to approve the 20 February 2026 documents.

[20:33] » And I'll second it. All in favor say >> I.

[20:39] » Uh, anybody have any old business?

[20:43] » Um, there is new business that we'll discuss in the regular meeting for

[20:47] resolution 03122601. It's for supplemental appropriations.

[20:54] Do I hear a motion for adjournment? >> I'll make a motion to adjourn.

[20:58] » I'll second. >> Everybody in favor say I.

[21:00] » I. >> I.

[21:04] » And we'll call it to close at 653 on March 12th.

[21:11] » Where's your >> I don't know. I feel like I

[21:17] » steal Jason's. >> I got a drawer full of them.

[21:20] » It would be kind of funny if we all had them. I'll just start.

[21:23] » I don't know if I have that money or not.

[21:28] » I probably don't need one. I'd get out of control.

[21:33] elderly mother >> and she was visionary

[21:55] for

[22:06] He's just a >> smiley face.

[22:13] » Throw them in my bag.

[22:17] » Yeah, we were admiring the winky and the smiley face.

[22:29] Don't say anything.

[22:57] I wonder

[23:04] for months.

[23:15] » I just I don't

[23:25] What happened?

[23:58] My

[24:03] I got a little bit.

[24:25] Excuse me. Sorry.

[24:39] I had any

[24:43] updow.

[24:54] Oh,

[24:57] » they're on the list. I promise. >> She promises.

[25:02] » I do promise. >> I'm just teasing. I don't even know what

[25:06] you're talking about. >> The list that I'm like, "Oh, shoot. It's

[25:10] due today." That list.

[25:14] » I like your hair, by the way, before we start tonight.

[25:18] » Thank you. Michael just did it this morning.

[25:20] » Well, there we have it. >> Thank you.

[25:23] I feel very much put together.

[25:37] » It's been four years since I've done or cut or anything like

[25:42] anything. >> I just think it would be so handy. It's

[25:45] like right here. I'm like, man,

[25:51] » it's very Right. >> Yeah. And she's come in and it looks all

[25:54] nice. Now you've come in and it looks all nice. Really should be

[26:00] » reaching out. >> She she come in. I'll put it together.

[26:03] I'm like I text Michael. I'm like I want my hair done.

[26:06] » Yeah. I know. >> Crap. Put my hair

[26:11] pulled out of my face because I can't.

[26:17] » I told him both Tom. So Tom's had bald head. Like he shaves it.

[26:24] » He has it in almost a year now. Like it's it's crazy. And he's got we all

[26:28] have curly hair, but he years ago when we first got I mean 20 years ago when we

[26:35] first started dating, he told me at one point his goal in life was to be wealthy

[26:40] enough to have somebody shave his head for him every week because he has to do

[26:45] it like every two or three days because it grows so quick. We have very quick

[26:49] growing hair. Yeah. >> And I told Michael today, I said, "So,

[26:52] my goal is to I wash mine maybe once every six days." Like, once a week is my

[26:58] goal. >> I hate it. I hate washing my hair. I

[27:02] said, "I'm going to pay you once a week to wash my hair."

[27:05] » Oh, does he scrub good? >> Oh, yes.

[27:08] » It's Those are the best. >> Sometimes you get somebody and they

[27:12] don't do a very good job and you're like, man, that's a let down.

[27:15] Then you get the good >> guinea pig. Do you want all

[27:24] it >> I don't like it. I don't know why it's

[27:28] not even a I mean I don't have a special >> I do in the shower so it's not like a

[27:33] big deal. It's just annoying. And then I feel fuzzy and weird, you know,

[27:42] » fuzzy and weird. >> You get some frizzy action going on.

[27:47] » I think you can have massage therapist. I feel like cosmetologists would do

[27:51] good. >> Yeah, because there's some that aren't.

[27:53] » Yeah. >> Could literally open a shop just washing

[27:56] hair. I think women would pay for that. >> Yeah,

[27:59] » for sure. When I was in nursing school, I used to go

[28:04] » All right, we'll get started. >> All right, it's 7 p.m. on March 12th,

[28:09] 2026, and we'll all rise

[28:17] of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one

[28:22] nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[28:31] Roll call, please. >> Mayor Henderson,

[28:34] » present. >> President Jol here. Councilman Henry

[28:37] » here. >> Councilman Pangborn

[28:39] » here. >> Councilman Harrier

[28:40] » here. Counciloman Van Dyke >> here. Councilman Snider

[28:44] » here. >> All right. February 12, 2026 council

[28:48] meeting minutes in front of them. Do I hear a motion to approve?

[28:52] » I'll make a motion to approve it. >> Cory made the motion. Do I hear a

[28:55] second? >> I'll second.

[28:57] » Second. Courtney, sorry. Almost said Sarah.

[29:04] » I know. It just happens. I could have called called you Corey.

[29:08] That's where she used to say, >> you know.

[29:11] » Well, that would have been okay. >> I've been called worse.

[29:14] » President Jamal. >> Yes.

[29:16] » Councilman Bart. Councilman Harry. >> Yes.

[29:20] » Counciloman Vand. >> Yes.

[29:21] » Councilman Snder. >> Yep.

[29:28] I feel like we're all a little out of sort like let's take a deep breath for a

[29:32] minute. Tomorrow is Friday the 13th, >> I guess.

[29:36] » So, you know, the funny thing is when I did minutes, just I know our last

[29:41] meeting was on 212 >> and Friday the 13th was I think they're

[29:46] supposed to have the most this year. >> It's because of 28 days in February.

[29:51] » Stays the same. >> Somebody had said it was the most you'll

[29:53] get in one year though. >> Yeah, cuz normally you only have two.

[29:55] Unless it's a leap year, then you get three.

[29:58] » Yeah. And then there's some moons and stuff extra going on this year, too.

[30:02] » At the same time, explains so much. We need we need help with crazy.

[30:08] » You can tell that we need crazy around here.

[30:12] » Sam says we need help with crazy, right? >> Comes out.

[30:16] » All right, we'll go to council reports finance.

[30:19] » Um, we do have a resolution later in the meeting. Other than that, nothing to

[30:23] report. >> Okay. zoning and property maintenance.

[30:26] Uh we do have the one application that we had turned in last month. Um it's

[30:32] being rejected. It'll go in for variance. And then we also have a

[30:35] request for a lot split. Um so Sam has been working with you two to set up a

[30:39] date. Um Sam, when you do schedule that, Roger Ruble needs to be added to that

[30:45] meeting. His variance

[30:50] » the lot split. >> No, the lot split and Roger Ruble need

[30:53] to be added. >> Oh, we switched. Okay. Sorry.

[30:55] » To that same meeting. >> Okay.

[30:58] » When you send out letters, you have to send out letters to his neighbors as

[31:01] well. >> I thought we were talking about the

[31:03] lots, but I was confused. Sorry. >> We're putting them both in the same

[31:05] meeting. >> Oh, okay. Well, then I was confused.

[31:09] Sorry. >> We'll get those taken care of.

[31:19] » Records, rules of law. >> Yeah. Uh Corey and I met last week and

[31:25] it was it was a good meeting. Uh we're going to be discussing a ordinance later

[31:31] on in the meeting and there's some comments on it. Um and then the only

[31:36] other thing is I have a list of the existing resolutions and ordinances. Sam

[31:41] sent that to me. Um and then I'll be looking at updating the record retention

[31:46] policy, ensuring it meets OC. >> Okay. Awesome.

[31:52] for the >> I know. Hey, she she even volunteered

[31:55] for it. I don't have to go eeny meeny money.

[31:59] » Yes. >> Uh recreation.

[32:02] » That would be me. So Courtney and I met >> and so

[32:08] poor Katie little girl was sick. So um >> we talked about and I'll have minutes

[32:14] for you Sam about the meeting regarding or about

[32:17] » parks and park. I call it parks and wreck. It's recreation theater center

[32:21] pool and um there's some events that we want to do at no cost to the village. Um

[32:27] and I'll have a list of those and I can bring those in next time. But things

[32:32] like um ice cream at the park

[32:37] some things around trying to have some events at least once a month during the

[32:41] summer months when kids are out of school. More if I can manage it. Um

[32:49] Christmas time and during the holidays like um for Christmas doing a gender

[32:53] break house contest. Like I said, there's no cost to the village. I'll

[32:57] I'll figure out the funding for it. And so we'll have something to do at

[33:03] least once a month with the village. I'll go with Sam and see if she we can

[33:09] populate it and let people know about it. So I'll come back more with a list

[33:15] of events and >> some ideas of how how to do it,

[33:20] how we want to tell people about it. >> Um, we'll be posting the job

[33:25] announcements for like managers, >> lifeguards, and a manager. Um, once we

[33:31] get some feedback on that application, we'll reach out to your board and you

[33:34] guys can set up those meetings to do the interviews.

[33:38] » Sure. >> Do we do we do interviews for life and

[33:42] » so typically what has we've done in the past is the board hires the manager. she

[33:47] does >> and they hire

[33:51] » um the ones I have to work with them but

[33:54] again you guys >> I think that's the method that works

[33:58] well >> personal

[34:02] » safety service >> I don't have anything this month I do

[34:06] have stuff but I can't present to council yet because I didn't have time

[34:08] to set up meeting >> okay

[34:10] » before this evening >> all right not a problem all right county

[34:14] boards regional planning and board of health So nothing to report on any of

[34:19] them. Nothing for regional planning that pertains to us and then no.

[34:26] » Okay. All right. Next grand updates and we'll go to the board. My favorite.

[34:32] » Oh boy. >> Because I do have some updates.

[34:35] » Um so our safe pros of school we're going to partner with Fairfield local

[34:39] school district. So we held our first meeting. So we had a meeting with

[34:44] Fairfield Union village of Raymond Village Pleasantville, our engineers,

[34:48] county representations and some different people at the state level to

[34:52] handle different type of funding. So to kick everything off as far as future

[34:55] funding, we have to do a school transfer transportation plan. It's called STP.

[35:00] The school has to do that. So that's their part of this. What we talked about

[35:05] is for them to apply. It pays basically for the design. They apply and then

[35:11] That's for the travel plan. So, you might as well go ahead and do it all

[35:14] include as much as you can so you can use this plan that's good for five years

[35:18] for five years worth of cycles. Um, so that's that's the goal. Um, Fairfield

[35:24] Union did um finish this up and it was submitted last week. Um, the

[35:32] he did not. Um, this is an ongoing thing. I

[35:38] think he's if I remember right it would be this spring but I can't remember what

[35:42] month that they'll meet. Now everything is a process. So when they meet they may

[35:48] not do an approval. It may be like oh we like your ideas but now you meet. So

[35:55] most likely we will get funded for the STP for the plan and then we'll start

[36:02] going there. School has the heavy lift on that. I did offer our engine and us

[36:07] use the same engineers. So we both offered like use our engineers if

[36:10] there's a cost we'll pick up that bill. Um because the school does not have an

[36:16] engineering firm on staff and they have to hire it out. Um typically the way our

[36:21] engineering firm does it is when it comes to these type of grants they do

[36:24] everything up front for free and then when we actually go in the plan that's

[36:27] when they actually get their money type thing. So that's usually how that works.

[36:30] So I don't see anything large, but if they come back and say, you know, I want

[36:36] engineer drawings before we even consider it. Well, if you have

[36:38] engineered certified drawings, you're going to be paying for them. So, but

[36:41] they'll let us know if anything comes up. Um, after that, you know, we'll

[36:46] we'll work on the safe routes school because at that point the villages are

[36:50] on their own. We apply and then after that, we also apply for

[36:55] um active transportation plan fund which in the millions that could be fully

[37:02] funded and that will kick off other design stuff like that. Um and then we

[37:08] can actually I'm saying this like longterm wish list big dreams if we got

[37:13] all the money in the world we can actually redo main street sidewalk

[37:16] street lines the whole thing and that's kind of what you know fix what we need

[37:21] to get the kids to school safely and then the second round of that once we

[37:25] get all that is fix main street so we have proper sidewalks proper stuff like

[37:29] that. So, more to come on that. Um, our ARPA

[37:35] funding from there. Again, this is the Tower of Hell that we've been dealing

[37:40] with now for two years. Um, engineers are doing the new drawing. Once those

[37:44] are available, we'll bid that out. Um, we have in our packet tonight to pass an

[37:48] ordinance to go into contract with someone to remove the debris and then go

[37:52] down the dirt about 8 in and bring in clean soil. Um, I just got permission

[37:57] today from the county. We can use those ARPA funds for that. about $1,000. So

[38:01] that's out of no out of pocket for us. Um will be about $30 some thousand.

[38:07] And what that's been reserved for based on our conversation is fencing. We're

[38:13] getting $30,000 worth of fencing because we we need to get this clean cleared out

[38:18] before the end of the year. And this just falls into the program nice and

[38:22] clean. We can drop it in without having to go back and change this and add that

[38:26] and then take the chance of not having it done by the end of the year. And lose

[38:30] the funds and still have fencing that we need. So,

[38:34] but that's that's about it on the um the grants. Uh the water meter replacement

[38:39] you guys approve by 20 new meters. So, we replace what or order what 40 60

[38:46] meters now. >> Yeah. So,

[38:50] » 40 meters. So, again they'll slowly get those in

[38:54] » all together. We've had two orders, right?

[38:59] » Yeah. Two orders or something like that. So, and the goal is as they die or we've

[39:06] seen problems, that's when we replace them. So, we don't have this same

[39:08] problem again 15 years down the road. Well, the next mayor doesn't have this

[39:12] problem. Um, all these die at the same time. In 15 years, I'm going to be on

[39:16] vacation somewhere. >> Um,

[39:19] » me too. >> So,

[39:22] that's the goal, not replacing these all. That way, they all kind of die at a

[39:25] different time. So, but you know, they are going to start dying more

[39:29] frequently. We're starting to see an uptick in them just because they were

[39:32] only designed for 10 years and we're at year 12. And basically, it's the battery

[39:35] that the ones that we replaced with, they

[39:39] have about a 15ear lipan. >> How do you know?

[39:43] » I mean, >> that's my question.

[39:46] » Yeah, I believe in the old program >> they stop sending the signal.

[39:51] » Um, when we first bought this, we actually had a battery signal that we

[39:55] would get and tell us like how much life is left. But then they done an upgrade

[39:58] and it got rid of all that plus that like it got rid of all the stuff we

[40:01] bought.

[40:04] » All of a sudden somebody's water bills. >> Yeah. So

[40:09] » yeah, that happens too. >> When I look at the tub report, there's

[40:13] nothing there like >> they're using water but it's not being

[40:19] » on the ones that currently have a remote

[40:23] read. We're replacing the same We're moving fromch.

[40:33] » Yeah. And the new ones because it's sonic, it can detect your um meter can

[40:39] detect your neighbors water break. >> So it sends out those pulses. So let's

[40:45] say we get five or six of you in an area that also have this huge pulse rate. It

[40:50] lets us know in that area that there's a water break of some sort.

[40:53] » Reading. So, and then just case go over it, but

[40:59] we just had a big water break and when they got there, they actually found two

[41:01] more within that break that hadn't even surfaced yet, but we would be able to

[41:05] find stuff like that before they surface. So,

[41:07] » awesome. >> All right. Actually, speaking of that,

[41:10] we'll go to the maintenance report. >> Uh, maintenance report.

[41:16] Basically, a lot of the work has been on the EPA. A lot of my work has been on

[41:19] the EPA side. a lot of planning work done on the equipment servicing of

[41:24] vehicles and equipment. Um, right now we got the

[41:30] uh source water protection plan and the CCR in the in the books we're working on

[41:36] right now. We've repaired we replaced four of the new meters, two new curve

[41:41] boxes and two curve box relocations. Um,

[41:47] that's what that big mess is up there on Market Street.

[41:52] sanitary inspection last month at this time I said we thought we did well um we

[41:58] got two violations one is um we didn't designate which valves are critical in

[42:04] our documentation paperwork we can discuss that

[42:10] we got a plan and number two um I just missed the whole thing that we're

[42:16] supposed to be putting phosphates on the MS

[42:19] it's a new thing that came out in November supposedly.

[42:23] » What's on the MRI? >> I think I said that right.

[42:29] » It's your monthly report. >> It's a monthly report that we have to

[42:32] send to the EPA. >> Oh, it's a report.

[42:35] » Yeah. And your phosphates is just your >> It's a chemical we injected for

[42:41] corrosion. >> Yes.

[42:42] » And it's just a report you didn't send. >> No, we we just didn't add that little

[42:47] number at the bottom. You have the number on the report.

[42:51] » They get it. It's just >> It's just not on the report. They get

[42:53] the numbers because they get any >> any test we do gets sent to us and them.

[43:01] » Okay. >> But you did cross.

[43:02] » So you did. >> Yeah.

[43:04] » Yeah. >> I just don't remember reading that. I

[43:08] had to add >> a new rule having added to our monthly

[43:11] report in addition to >> Yeah. I just don't remember reading it.

[43:16] » Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay.

[43:18] » I put it on this month. I'll put it on the rest. We're good.

[43:20] » You were just talking language. I didn't know. Sorry. Had to ask.

[43:24] » It's fine. I'm sorry. >> Um, so basically that to uh mitigate

[43:29] these, all we had to do is uh submit our uh compliance plan we're going to do to

[43:35] fix our violations. So that's that. Um, we had a big leak

[43:41] that we talked about on Market Street. There was actually more leaks up there

[43:44] that we found. Everything up there now is fixed. Everything is routed one

[43:48] direction. It's just a matter of now we got to fill

[43:53] in the holes. Um the problem we have right now is we can't get to our dirt

[43:56] because of the whole rain has made it so soupy that when we go try

[44:01] to get the dirt we get stuck. So yeah, working on plan on.

[44:08] And then like I said, we've been servicing the vehicles and equipment and

[44:12] that's been most questions.

[44:18] » No, I just needed to know what the BPJ was.

[44:26] It's just a monthly report. >> I get it now. I just

[44:31] » It's one of those things. It's just a >> a pain to dumb it down.

[44:46] didn't hear anything. and the the valve exercise where we didn't have any

[44:50] critical so >> EPA regulation says all main valves so

[44:55] non-residential valves need to be exercised and that's the main schedule

[45:00] any critical valve needs to be exercised once a year we didn't have we've never

[45:04] had any on our maps as critical well they want critical but they won't define

[45:08] what's critical >> um so we have to go through and define

[45:13] it so we're going to define it as the water plant the two water towers

[45:17] because those are critical. Now, they can come back and say, "Well, that's not

[45:20] enough." But then if we use Main Street and Columbus Street as a critical, then

[45:24] we have to make all you can't make one, not the other. So, we're going to start

[45:28] with that. See what >> we should probably do in the school,

[45:31] too. >> Speed the school. Okay.

[45:33] » Yeah. >> Oh, yep. And nurse, not nursing home,

[45:36] but home. >> Anything like that where you have

[45:39] critical users.

[45:42] » Yeah. You know, if there's anyone that is documented on life support that needs

[45:46] like, you know, water or stuff, that's critical.

[45:50] » In reality, we haven't shut the street down. Is that val necessary now? Is it

[45:54] critical? >> It's critical when you need it. So,

[45:57] » right. But people have to go without water for a couple hours. For the most

[46:02] part, that's okay. Unless there's a critical need is what they're looking at

[46:05] is we have to do the same thing. So, we at Langster, we've been through all the

[46:09] same stuff. We don't have any known ones in our last

[46:15] one >> because of actually running water.

[46:17] » Yeah, >> because we had one suspicion town. It's

[46:22] been three or four years ago. Like they notified us and then if we had a water

[46:24] break, we had to notify them directly. There was no

[46:27] » waiting or anything like that. >> So, all right. Any questions for Casey?

[46:34] » All right. >> We'll go on to the police report. Chief

[46:37] Garber. Okay. So, I do have some extra

[46:43] one page, but it's not working out today. Um, so I'll

[46:50] » thank you. >> So you don't have to guess where I

[46:53] inserted stuff. Uh so veggie first uh we on the 13th of February

[47:04] a known drug house

[47:25] this drug house actually came to this building

[47:29] uh and watched the intersection pretty confident vehicle would exit. They later

[47:34] did. They pulled out to get behind them before they

[47:42] did have a equipment violation. They also had traffic

[47:50] almost hit U-Haul,

[47:59] you know, a little quicker

[48:02] on

[48:10] the 25 pursuit. They went out of the

[48:15] road. I I had actually just arrived in Breeman to do the patrol down there when

[48:21] this all happened. Last transition

[48:25] I think 66 miles an hour on road cruiser

[48:36] 2017 explor when they went across 256.

[48:41] I really don't know if it was you know, a fair control issue on the part of our

[48:46] driver or if it was a mechanical failure because one of the coil springs

[48:54] and if you lose that at a high rate the vehicle would become unstable. I don't

[48:58] know the number of events whether that came off as it went across 256 when they

[49:03] came down it was missing causing it to become unstable. We didn't have a tech

[49:08] investigation.

[49:13] Sheriff's office investig

[49:45] So we'll see what happens with that. Regardless

[49:52] is total as a result of that pursuit. So following that um the mayor and I well I

[50:01] met with him obviously that night and he did get evaluated at the hospital no

[50:06] injuries there and then after he was released I have a

[50:11] follow conversation with him about you we're have to do something there so the

[50:17] preliminary plan to deal with the vehicle

[50:29] recognized

[50:32] they have different classes. So one of them will be uh like emergency response

[50:37] operations which seems to be when the issue is. So uh people go and attend

[50:43] that's a actual inerson you know driver and I'm also going to have them go to

[50:51] another one that I'm going to go to as well to get additional

[50:56] level of certification that state highway patrol that's called police

[51:02] refer to as class but called a pursuit intervention technique. It's basically

[51:07] all the various ways of terminating a pursuit early uh such as employing spike

[51:13] strips which we do have. Uh if you've watched any of the YouTube videos or

[51:17] cops or whatever the bumper tap you spin a car out

[51:23] that is part of the training program. And then also embedded in that is hey

[51:28] these are things that you should be aware of as a police officer you know

[51:35] terminate a pursuit or you know get alternatives involved such

[51:40] as get support which we can get it's just it's hard to mobilize it because it

[51:45] comes from the north end of Columbus state

[51:49] an aircraft over you ask for it no problem but it's it's the time it takes

[51:54] to get here get it in the area and then they have a limited uh time that they

[52:01] can assist you due to Columbus police also send a helicopter too that's even

[52:05] less time they can come out and like 20 minutes and they can fly back

[52:11] uh so those are options that we don't normally use that we can and then

[52:16] there's an online class that's free um oh by the way the class will be free the

[52:23] remedial driver 275.

[52:27] Uh, and then the online courses, they'll have to do this online courses that are

[52:31] offered through the state's website for the police uh to do. Um, and that's more

[52:36] of a procedural like, hey, when should you consider terminating pursuit? What

[52:43] are good reasons to do it, not to do it, that sort of thing. And then

[52:49] I'm adding on that because I think this contributes a little bit. He's from

[52:54] Columbus always up in the city, this country, rural roads, chip and seal, you

[53:02] know, all that stuff. U got the railroad tracks and the S curbs and all that

[53:07] stuff. And those are uh hazards that most of us are probably intimately

[53:12] familiar with, but city guy maybe not so much. So I'ms want to have him go out

[53:19] and learn like physically learn both to map to know where he is but also know

[53:25] where the hazards are in a 5 mile radius of here and bring we can build on that

[53:31] later all of this stuff will be done within

[53:36] the next six months that's the plan anyways he's also on no pursuit

[53:41] he's banned from pursuit right now until we revisit after

[53:48] training the mayor and I are satisfied and you know maybe at that time we'll

[53:51] revisit it. Also I don't know if I had mentioned in previous reports or not

[53:57] told the mayor about it. I did locate four police grade in cars used other

[54:05] departments that are very good. They're an older model. They stopped

[54:10] updating them I think in 2020 but there's something wrong with them. Uh, I

[54:15] got a fourack of them for 155 bucks plus shipping. It's really cheap. Cheap

[54:20] enough to take a risk off of eBay. Uh, all the photos and everything look

[54:24] really good. I contacted the manufacturer, Digital Ally. They're

[54:28] willing to sell us their obsolete software, which isn't really required,

[54:33] but it's good to have because what it will do is it puts a whole bunch of data

[54:39] into the video. So, you know, if you watch cops or whatever and it has like

[54:43] the strip of D like maybe GPS coordinates, date, time, officer name,

[54:47] car number, department, and then might have other things you

[54:51] don't know what they mean. Those are all inputs into the system. So it can

[54:55] indicate on the video, is the lights on, is the siren on, was the brake

[55:01] activated. All that kind of input data would go into without the software. It

[55:05] does not do that. It's just a regular kind of like a camera video. And it's

[55:11] also has like

[55:14] stuff built into the metadata. I'll understand all that techy stuff, but

[55:18] basically you can prove at a court level that this is original video, not edited,

[55:25] that kind of stuff. So, in order to get that obsolete software from them, I

[55:29] think they want to charge a $650 one time fee. It's a standalone

[55:34] uh computer level software and then we have to take the SD cards out of the

[55:39] camera system, put in the computer and do that. So, After I check all four of

[55:44] those cameras and if they're good to go, which they said even if they're not,

[55:49] it's probably just like a watch battery type of thing that's in it could be

[55:52] replaced. It'll probably be fine if we swap that out. But they check them if

[55:57] it's good. The plan is if everybody's finance,

[56:10] whatever you want to say. We currently do have dash cams. A lot of

[56:13] police departments don't. Um it was a big thing back like when I started we

[56:19] had dash cam VHS but the dash cams were all rave. Well then it kind of switched

[56:24] to body cams and then people went away from the dash cams.

[56:29] You lose a lot by not having a dash cam because you can activate this all you

[56:33] want to and you get a nice picture of your steering wheel

[56:36] » and the computer and your dashboard, but you can't see over the dash what's going

[56:41] on and all that stuff. So, there's no real way of knowing

[56:45] what the officer is seeing through the body.

[56:49] So, these are good and definitely have replaced but I think that's a good idea.

[56:56] So, That's that whole thing. The ICE agreement, you guys approve that's been

[57:02] executed. They sign there and they send it back. We're basically just in a

[57:06] training phase right now. We have to do 40 hours of online uh class to become

[57:13] educated in the area to their liking. Once that happens, we become quote

[57:17] operational in their system. Um and then once we start to actually

[57:24] um assist them on things and they become eligible for the funding that was passed

[57:28] the big beautiful bill and that if I didn't detail that out did talk to them

[57:33] a little bit more. So they will uh I don't want to use the

[57:38] word grant because they don't use the word grant but it's basically one time

[57:42] upfront introductory. You get $100,000 for equipment for

[57:46] helping them out. no strength of passion receipts to turn in and I think

[57:51] and then from any compensated officer who can't be an auxiliary that gets no

[57:56] money but they're part-time or fulltime and there's no that I can see hour

[58:00] requirement or whatever it's just they got to be parttime or fulltime

[58:04] um that's trained and participates in the program high school uh reimburse the

[58:10] village again without any string it's $15,000 per officer and they said you

[58:17] can have one to a million officers. That's their quote if they told me on

[58:20] the phone. Um, and it's a quarterly thing. And they said they have funding

[58:26] guaranteed through 2029. So that would equate to every every

[58:31] officer that we get trained and participates in any way, it would be

[58:37] annually $60,000 >> per per each officer.

[58:43] Uh and like I said, that's they can't predict what will happen past 2029.

[58:48] There have to be future legislation to shore that up, but you know, in that

[58:52] time frame, uh they said there's no issue on that.

[58:56] Then it will go one step further and if uh we're doing anything actually

[59:02] with them. So let's say we're transporting someone to

[59:09] the county.

[59:13] It's down south beside Cincinnat. County, right?

[59:16] » Yeah, they are a big regional housing area and that's where and Columbus is up

[59:22] in the air right now whether they're going to be able to continue to house

[59:26] people but so we may be tasked with we catch someone driving down the county or

[59:32] whatever dropping them off. So it might be like a 4 hour deal. Anyway, the clock

[59:36] starts whenever we get involved with it. If it's a traffic stop, whatever, that

[59:40] whole time they'll reimburse if we want to turn it in any

[59:45] case, whatever, we just got to basically itemize power, whatever. Send it in and

[59:51] they'll pay that back, too. So then

[59:57] next item contract is seems to be going good. I've not really heard any

[1:00:03] complaints except for the people that want to fight with us and go to jail.

[1:00:07] But the village council down there seems to be happy. Um I've been going to their

[1:00:12] council meetings. I just went Monday and have any complaints or questions

[1:00:18] really about anything. They seem to be happy. So that's that's good. year to

[1:00:23] date we're well through February we're 435 total calls that's combined that's

[1:00:30] pretty us I have a broke down for you on that but

[1:00:34] some of the extra stuff that's not on your list

[1:00:37] um I did go around we had talked about this in previous years I think I don't

[1:00:42] know if this last month or two months ago but it reminded me about the

[1:00:45] basketball hoop problem on second street first street the road so I went around

[1:00:51] put warning hangers on the houses that have I talked to some

[1:00:55] people through their ring some people in person some people call on the phone

[1:00:58] some call the village office I wrote a note on the back of my all I got to do

[1:01:04] the road that's all we really care the hoop and the whole thing out of the

[1:01:07] pavement we don't care you know we could get on right away

[1:01:13] issue if you really want to I don't think anybody really cares about that

[1:01:17] time but it is an obstruction it really is most of them have moved

[1:01:22] There's a couple stri

[1:01:30] on vacation in Florida. I guess that was pre hiring him full time. He's not here

[1:01:35] until Saturday. Not this Saturday. Next week

[1:01:40] we will be hired for part time. I thought I had a guy hired

[1:01:44] or he's going to come and do a ride around and then all of a sudden he uh

[1:01:50] got a something from a fire school that he applied to and got accepted into

[1:01:55] that. So now he tried to manage that and his fulltime

[1:02:00] job sheriff's office. So he said he wanted to revisit with us after fire. So

[1:02:08] what we'll probably end up doing is put up to cover the part.

[1:02:15] Um, and then I did get there's some pictures. I don't know if

[1:02:19] any of you know or heard of Ryan Hall, y'all. He's a weather guy on YouTube.

[1:02:26] pretty. uh they are looking to put 100 cameras

[1:02:31] out throughout the country on towers and they will provide whoever

[1:02:37] allows them to do that unlimited use of the camera for whatever they would need

[1:02:41] it for whether it's just a live stream of the town or you know it catches

[1:02:46] traffic and we need it or the weather whatever you want to do I don't know

[1:02:51] interested in doing that or not probably would be the old tower it's got more

[1:02:56] mounting capability internet because they didn't inquire

[1:02:59] about that. We do not have internet at either one of them as far as Tony, but

[1:03:05] the old tower I can potentially if you agree to put a camera I think it might

[1:03:10] be cool to have live stream or whatever and might be useful to the police too.

[1:03:20] I think it would be the west for the weather. Um, I probably have the tower.

[1:03:28] So, if you want to do if you want to allow that, I don't know if there's

[1:03:31] going to be some kind of agreement or contract or whatever.

[1:03:37] So, you want to use

[1:03:43] it and I don't mind using that. So, that's just something for you

[1:03:50] guys to consider. has been kind of crazy this week

[1:03:54] throughout the country. So, we've been having emails back and forth.

[1:04:08] So, that's really all I have. If you have questions, I'll take them.

[1:04:14] I think as far as the insurance plan may talk about that, but we haven't

[1:04:21] decision that

[1:04:25] questions.

[1:04:28] » What? So, um, they thought what happened in this explorer? What was the part that

[1:04:35] they found in the field? >> It's called a coil spring.

[1:04:38] » Coil spring. >> Yeah.

[1:04:43] Yeah, >> but it looks like it's in pretty good

[1:04:45] shape, but it clearly broke off the vehicle and there's really no damage to

[1:04:49] the vehicle's exterior where it would be mounted. Like it's not like that area is

[1:04:54] torn up or anything. >> They normally don't come out.

[1:04:58] » Yeah, I know. So I goog

[1:05:16] and whatever else then what attaches at the top of the block I guess may not be

[1:05:22] meant to go that direction. So they said spring out of the car and

[1:05:29] again with this hypothesis of AI

[1:05:43] » right

[1:05:51] surely you will lose control >> I was just curious because sometimes you

[1:05:55] can also find where different manufacturers had defects that were

[1:05:59] reported to >> Yeah. And I don't know.

[1:06:06] They may have them as far as like it doesn't look like it's in that bad

[1:06:10] shape. It looks like it's black. You know, it's not rusted.

[1:06:14] » Yeah. >> All the way out. The top and bottom is

[1:06:17] probably where the problem was where it attaches.

[1:06:20] » Cruiser carries could have over timely just compressed or something just by a

[1:06:25] fraction. caused that separation to

[1:06:29] » I did talk to about it and he said

[1:06:37] » I looked at the area multiple times

[1:06:45] I mean there's a transition there >> it's just not quite as dramatic as I

[1:06:48] thought it was when I came down road I was looking at it through the field like

[1:06:54] it's that bad but Uh he did say when he came down on the air side he could not

[1:06:59] keep on the road. He said he was trying to keep on road.

[1:07:07] » Yeah. I just was wondering because I know we've had different things our own

[1:07:11] personal cars and then you literally research it and find that

[1:07:15] » recall or something >> there's problems. So I'm just going to

[1:07:18] be nosy. >> Yeah, that's fine. And

[1:07:20] » because there could have just it might not even be anything to do with him. It

[1:07:24] could literally be I don't know how many times

[1:07:29] » like and then some of the companies don't recall them. My husband had an oil

[1:07:32] leak, found out that in Canada they recalled it but not in the US because it

[1:07:36] didn't get cold enough here but it still happening to cars here.

[1:07:40] » Yeah. >> So I'm just saying like you do come

[1:07:44] across things. I'm not saying that that's what it is. I'm just wondering.

[1:07:47] » I don't either. I don't you know it it seems plausible the fact that it's okay

[1:07:52] why did that happen and >> I don't know

[1:07:56] » if a spring mount sheared off I was like well clearly oh there's your source but

[1:07:59] that was still tag >> yeah I agreed

[1:08:04] » I mean >> we didn't think to have a technical

[1:08:08] crash reconstruction done or whatever and that would have been time consuming

[1:08:11] and a big deal >> I don't think it would have been worth

[1:08:14] the one anyway but >> maybe if there was injuries or something

[1:08:17] like that

[1:08:19] » I got a call question. That's right. >> Okay. So, I'm looking up recalls

[1:08:25] » and on the 2017 Ford Police Interceptor utility, they have several major

[1:08:29] recalls, most notably for rear suspension tow link fractures.

[1:08:33] » There you go. That's what I was going to look up.

[1:08:36] » Okay. >> I'm telling you, is the tow link is the

[1:08:38] toe link part of the coil spring or is it close to each other?

[1:08:41] » It is a It is a rear coil spring. I don't know.

[1:08:43] » The toe link is the part that goes from the axle to the frame.

[1:08:46] » Uhhuh. And then the coil spring sits between the axle and the frame here.

[1:08:49] » Yeah. Vroom vroom. >> Yeah. That's all triangulation.

[1:08:54] » I'm just saying there's a recall with tow link suspension part. So I'm just

[1:08:58] saying. >> We're just saying.

[1:08:59] » I didn't even Google. >> We're we're just letting you know.

[1:09:05] » I don't know if it means anything, but hey,

[1:09:07] » just so you know. Kane did text me. I'm very sorry.

[1:09:12] » We We are sure. We're just saying we didn't have a conversation the day

[1:09:16] before all this happened, but I'm saying >> we're just glad he's okay. I mean,

[1:09:20] » was the guy was here with you last month.

[1:09:22] » And in all honesty, he's done a lot of good work. So, I mean,

[1:09:28] » only thing I was going to comment on is um before you go into any type of

[1:09:32] agreement with that video camera guy, it does need to be passed by an ordinance.

[1:09:36] We would have to have a contract or something to protect our property to

[1:09:38] allow that and stuff like that. I'll talk to them and say, "So, what's the

[1:09:41] what's the interested go up?" And then,

[1:09:45] » yeah. >> Yep. Yeah. Well, we actually have a

[1:09:48] sample agreement because remember that used to have the cellular to or the

[1:09:51] internet towers on it. Um, so we still have that as a sample.

[1:09:55] » Um, and then >> it's a possibility this camera's got a

[1:09:58] cell card in it. Yeah. Might even >> as we move forward, we may have an

[1:10:02] attorney that will be able to help guide us through that, too.

[1:10:04] » Yeah, we may. Not only could it be for you, it I mean

[1:10:10] it might figure out weather before it gets here or tell us what happened when

[1:10:14] the weather came through or >> Yeah. live stream. We don't want that.

[1:10:19] » Yeah, we do. >> All right. Any questions for Nick?

[1:10:25] » All right. >> Do we need to vote on the cameras now

[1:10:27] or? >> No, we don't have a contract.

[1:10:28] » Okay. >> All right. Um before we go into old

[1:10:32] business, um John Brown here, um we'll kind of we really haven't dove into any

[1:10:38] of this yet. So, first thing I do want to bring up to council, but uh on March

[1:10:44] 3rd, 2026, we did get uh a termination letter from our current solicitor,

[1:10:49] Bradley Nicodemus, giving us 30-day notice. Um in his notice, he says we um

[1:10:56] do uh have someone before the 30 days. He will terminate early once the meeting

[1:11:02] is fully transferred. If we don't receive counsel in 30 days,

[1:11:07] he's willing to extend his contract for 30 more days as well. So those are the

[1:11:11] the two options that he um provided in his resignation letter. Um so leading up

[1:11:18] to this moment after uh Brad and I spoke um I did start calling around just to

[1:11:23] you know figure out what we need to do because we have to have a solicitor, we

[1:11:26] have to have a prosecutor. Um and um yeah, so I reached out to multiple

[1:11:33] people. Um a lot of people just aren't interested in in representing small

[1:11:37] villages. I even reached out to other villages to find out who they're using.

[1:11:40] And a couple villages are like, "Well, we're looking for people, too. We can't

[1:11:43] get rid of our solicitor because we can't find, you know, like um you know,

[1:11:46] our solicitor wants to retire, but we can't let him because we can't find

[1:11:49] someone." Um found John. Uh Village of Rushville uses him. Um, and I'll

[1:11:55] introduce John and uh let him introduce himself a little bit further and we can

[1:11:58] do any questions or whatever else we want to do.

[1:12:01] » Who wants to go first? >> Hi, John.

[1:12:06] » I'll ask experience. So, um, >> how far back?

[1:12:11] » Um, and and I would say at least in my interest is like on the prosecutor side

[1:12:16] like interest on >> background you have there.

[1:12:20] » Uh, when I came out of law school, I went to the high school court and law

[1:12:24] for the Supreme Court. From there, I went to the Franklin County Prosecutor's

[1:12:28] Office and tried everything from uh traffic case, juvenile traffic cases to

[1:12:34] death penalty murder cases. um

[1:12:38] ended up my career at the prosecutor's office as the uh before they started

[1:12:46] calling the special victims unit. I was the head of the juvenile special victims

[1:12:51] unit which was just a horrible job. Um very rewarding but very had a lot of

[1:12:58] stress to it. So then I went to um became a defense lawyer. I um

[1:13:07] have seen so I have seen both sides of uh criminal cases um state, federal and

[1:13:14] local uh defended them. I have um

[1:13:21] did that for about 10 years. In 2000 um I in 2002 I started working at the

[1:13:30] village of Lyopoulos as their solicitor and I've been there ever since.

[1:13:35] Uh I have also currently working for um Rushel and for Frankfurt down in Ross

[1:13:44] County. Um

[1:13:49] you know a fair question to ask any you know look lawyers are like any other

[1:13:54] service provider. You know um when when you go into any service you're allowed

[1:14:00] to ask how long have you been doing this?

[1:14:03] um what are your qualifications? Are you any good at it? You know, um if

[1:14:09] you hire a plumber, those are all questions you you should ask. Um and

[1:14:14] frankly, each and every one of you is going to at some time in your life have

[1:14:18] a lawyer. U and you should not be afraid to ask that lawyer the very first time

[1:14:23] you meet them, what are your qualifications? How long have you been

[1:14:27] doing this? Is this the kind of work you routinely do? Um Because otherwise in

[1:14:34] the middle of the night at two, you go, you know, is this person really any good

[1:14:38] at this and and you know people as consumers, you're afraid to ask, you

[1:14:44] know, you never ask your doctor the same questions. It's like, well, where'd you

[1:14:48] go to medical school? You have a right to ask that. And I encourage people to

[1:14:52] ask me when I hire when people come to me. So in my I've been doing it a long

[1:14:58] time. I've been doing it uh nearly 25 years. Um

[1:15:04] Uh people asked me to do it. Uh I've been doing it for Lifeopolis. I've seen

[1:15:10] them grow from to about 2500 residents now. Um

[1:15:18] that brings me up to date. You know, about two weeks ago, I got a phone call

[1:15:22] from the mayor asked if I'd be interested.

[1:15:26] Yeah, I'd be interested. I mean, I this is

[1:15:30] and one of the nice things that I found about working for villages

[1:15:34] um is everyone's kind of pulling in the same direction. You know, everyone's

[1:15:39] kind of working toward a common goal and so much of the practice of law is

[1:15:44] basically combat and you know, fighting with somebody. It's nice to have a

[1:15:49] client where you're all kind of working toward a common goal. So, I find that

[1:15:52] part rewarding. Uh I have been um

[1:15:58] the traffic prosecutor for Lyopoulos for 20ome years. I

[1:16:05] like I said I' I've done both sides of this. I also do criminal defense work

[1:16:09] from time to time. Um

[1:16:12] » one of my questions too is background like in zoning like if we have problems

[1:16:16] in zoning like >> sure

[1:16:20] » have you worked on that where there might be issues that Let me ask you

[1:16:24] this. Have you been working with the county planning commission on their

[1:16:26] zoning plan? >> I have.

[1:16:28] » Yeah. Uh it's comprehensive. It is for because it's comprehensive.

[1:16:36] You know, a lot of what Holly has put into the zoning doesn't really apply to

[1:16:41] villages. You know, it applies more to the county or to the townships. Um but

[1:16:45] yeah, we're working through those same issues. Um

[1:16:50] no, most of the questions I I shot to the mayor uh by email was do you have a

[1:16:57] zoning code? So yeah, I I try I encourage uh

[1:17:03] communities to have zoning codes to have building codes and to adhere to them.

[1:17:10] People uh get worked up because you know they don't like when the zoning works

[1:17:15] against them. But if you don't have zoning,

[1:17:21] your community falls apart. you don't you end up having basketball hoops in

[1:17:25] the alleys and stuff like that. So yeah, I I try to stay up to date.

[1:17:30] I try to work closely with my communities and enforcing

[1:17:37] the other thing that I'm a that I preach is property maintenance plans as well.

[1:17:44] um in

[1:17:48] Frankfurt in Ross County uh we've started taking uh property owners to

[1:17:53] court to to get the judges to force them to

[1:18:01] » I shared with you we currently use IPMC 2012 that's the last update that we did

[1:18:06] but for what we've used so far it still fits what we need I know some of the

[1:18:11] newer updates have probably more teeth to it But for what we use it for, it's

[1:18:16] worked, right? >> But we've also talked about, okay, let's

[1:18:18] start looking at, but again, for us to read it and say, yes, that's where to

[1:18:21] go, you know, we are not zoning people. It may sound good, but when you go to

[1:18:27] apply the law, it's like, well, you should have waited or you should have

[1:18:29] done this version versus that version, >> right?

[1:18:32] » So, >> you know, and and again, that's one of

[1:18:34] the things that I mentioned to the mayor about is there are

[1:18:40] innumerable ways communities as officers as get in trouble to fall into these

[1:18:48] steps traps and you know if you're not up to date on it

[1:18:56] zoning code and somebody cuts you out you know touch base with that particular

[1:19:02] issue and you you're either done or you start over and

[1:19:09] it's wasted a lot of time a lot of money and a lot People are really angry about

[1:19:13] the whole thing.

[1:19:22] » Any other questions for John? >> All of you should have questions.

[1:19:27] » You answered my question. >> So, um, yeah, I mean, you know, we have

[1:19:34] a police department. We have zoning. Um, we run our own water plant. We're part

[1:19:37] of a sewer district. So we don't have to worry about

[1:19:41] overall I think for the most part we're a very conservative community

[1:19:45] » right >> um

[1:19:48] and people tend to want us to govern that way

[1:19:52] » right >> um for the most part now when I say that

[1:19:55] we're not going to the far right of anything

[1:19:57] » but you know that's that's typically where we're going to be at

[1:20:01] are we going to get representation that matches what the village residents

[1:20:06] expect anticipate things like that because again if we come in here and I

[1:20:10] use the words considerable liberal because that's the easiest way to just

[1:20:13] define two people. If we get someone in here that's very liberal and things like

[1:20:17] that overall I'm going to have a problem because I have people coming to me like

[1:20:20] oh they're too liberal this didn't care the way you know we felt. So is that

[1:20:24] something that that you feel comfortable doing?

[1:20:29] » Serve my client. >> Okay.

[1:20:30] » And you know if if this community is my client I'm going to try and and meet

[1:20:35] their needs. >> Okay. uh you know and make sure that um

[1:20:41] that first and foremost that it's council council collectively that you

[1:20:46] have um a base your ordinances in place that you know is what do you know and

[1:20:54] some of it's going to be real simple you know it's do you have a written credit

[1:21:00] card policy um do you have your training in place

[1:21:04] because in my experience over the past. The state auditor has become much more

[1:21:09] strict about enforcing what what once seemed inconsequential to

[1:21:17] them. Now they're doing these audits and they're saying, "Well, you don't have

[1:21:20] this ordinance in place or even show me the ordinance that supports this

[1:21:25] cont." And if you don't have it in place, they're going to make a finding

[1:21:29] against the community. >> Uh and and those things can build up

[1:21:35] more to your point, am I going to be a a liberal or

[1:21:40] » Yeah. And I don't want to put it back to terms, but I mean,

[1:21:43] » I understand or is my approach to um serving

[1:21:50] communities. >> Yeah, I sure hope so.

[1:21:54] » And I mean, so I've been doing this since I was 18 years old this year. So

[1:22:01] in that span of time I've served on council as president council now as

[1:22:05] mayor park board you know many many different boards I can count on my hands

[1:22:10] how many times an attorney has been at one of our council meetings.

[1:22:14] » Yeah let me let me speak to that. Okay. >> When when the mayor called me about

[1:22:19] this, I he mentioned that um you know, your your lawyer shows up when

[1:22:26] he's called to be here or um when things have gone bad. And it's always been my

[1:22:33] if I'm going to be doing my job, I need to be showing up at your council

[1:22:36] meetings every month so that I can kind of have

[1:22:42] my finger on the pulse of what's going on and finding out what's important to

[1:22:46] you, what the important issues are. Um helping you uh understand why the law

[1:22:56] says you have to do and you know there

[1:23:01] a radio commercial. It's like, you know, you can

[1:23:07] now you can pay me now or you can pay me later.

[1:23:11] It's a lot easier to keep you out of trouble than it gets you out of trouble

[1:23:16] because getting you out of trouble means

[1:23:21] you know you have

[1:23:26] the law down on you

[1:23:31] contractors

[1:23:35] saying you know have we all you Is the ordinance written the right way?

[1:23:46] You know, I think I think one of my jobs is to not only show up and be here as

[1:23:52] often as I reasonably can, but is to help you write contracts, write, write

[1:23:57] resolutions so that we're we're filling we're

[1:24:02] filling it all with. And I I hate using on our own. If

[1:24:06] we would send Mr. Brown and say, "Hey, do this." Yeah,

[1:24:09] » it would get done. >> But even before Brad, you know, it was

[1:24:14] basically you write it up and you pass it, it's law was what we were always

[1:24:18] told. Not what Brad told us, but what prior told us. Um, and as we've talked

[1:24:23] about, things are stickier now. >> Um, yes.

[1:24:27] » So, yes, we've been writing our own ordinances. We love them. We've not got

[1:24:31] a problem with them, but who knows 10 years down the about tomorrow,

[1:24:35] » right? >> Um, so to have someone to be I'm just

[1:24:37] gonna say hold our hand through this and it make me feel better.

[1:24:41] » Well, yeah. I'm I'm not here to step on the toes of whoever's drafting your

[1:24:45] ordinances, >> but at the same time, if that person

[1:24:48] were to say to me, >> hey, would you help write me help me

[1:24:51] write this? Yeah. >> Happy to write.

[1:24:53] » And frankly, what I would say is, I'll write it. I'm going to give it back to

[1:24:57] you and ask you to proof read it. So, court if that person says, "Hey, proof

[1:25:01] read this for me." >> It's always nice to have two sets of

[1:25:04] eyes looking. >> It is. Um, and I think what we're going

[1:25:07] to find through our next journey with whoever attorney is is we're going to

[1:25:10] find we have a lot of great patchwork, but we don't have everything quilted

[1:25:13] together. >> Um, I think that's what we're going to

[1:25:15] be missing. It's not to my knowledge, we don't have anything that's like damning,

[1:25:20] but A, B, and C, >> but you didn't go to the next step or

[1:25:23] you done A and C and you forgot B. Issues. And it' be nice to have someone

[1:25:28] to be like, "Okay, good start. You you stopped too early."

[1:25:33] communities used to be able to get along with handshake deals and frankly work.

[1:25:44] » You know there's a things have evolved to the point where people are using

[1:25:50] algorithms to check your emails or to check your emails for one thing

[1:25:56] » but to make sure that your um public meetings have been public properly

[1:26:00] posted >> and They're going out and suing

[1:26:03] communities um because

[1:26:10] you can do that now. They sue you and you know what happens is the maximum

[1:26:16] fine $500 which you know you could you want to you

[1:26:22] could but it also carries the risk of paying this person who's sitting

[1:26:27] somewhere their attorney's fees. That's kind of what you know, handshake

[1:26:32] deals used to work. >> They don't work anymore.

[1:26:36] » We have a couple auditors, self-proclaimed auditors county who've

[1:26:40] reached out to us a couple times. Luckily,

[1:26:44] we comply. It's easier to do comply because it's all public record anyway.

[1:26:48] » Um, and we've even gotten feedback from them like we wish every community was

[1:26:53] like that this versus fighting us. It's like, well, it's easier to give you what

[1:26:56] you legally can have versus try to fight you because it's not nothing secret,

[1:27:00] » right? >> So,

[1:27:01] » nothing here should be secret. >> Yeah, exactly. Um, so, anyone else have

[1:27:06] any questions, comments? Okay. Um, >> informative.

[1:27:10] » I'm sorry. >> Just saying he's been very informative.

[1:27:13] » Yeah. Um, so finances, let's talk about that because it's going to be a big, it

[1:27:18] should be a big part of our conversation with this. So, I'm going to go back in

[1:27:22] history. So, you know, when I first started, we had an attorney. We just

[1:27:25] paid $200 a month for retainer and we got $200 worth of work out of it. His

[1:27:30] practice is awesome, but was this wasn't his niche. Um, replacing him with Brad.

[1:27:35] Brad's a great awesome guy. Things like that. Um,

[1:27:39] he charges by the hour, $100 an hour as needed. And so, we spent8 to $10,000 a

[1:27:44] year with him. And that included bringing in mayor's court. um with John,

[1:27:50] his contract, which everyone should have a copy of it, is for $36,000

[1:27:55] » $39,000 for 13 months. >> For 13 months. Um

[1:28:01] $3,000 a month. Um so it's a lot more than what we've are accustomed to

[1:28:07] paying. Now, things that we've always agreed on is people are worth what

[1:28:11] they're worth, right? Um we don't pay minimum wage to our employees because

[1:28:15] they're worth more than that. um with John based on conversations

[1:28:20] talking to other villages he represents like 247 we got his number hopefully we

[1:28:26] don't call him 247 but I mean it's that type he's going to be on our ordinances

[1:28:30] our zoning he's going to be helping out with that you know like there's going to

[1:28:33] be a lot more pieces of parts that we're paying for up front that is going to

[1:28:37] make us a better community and it's going to keep improving us so you know

[1:28:42] my goal is to do better than the last mayor Jack done an awesome job I hope to

[1:28:45] do better than I hope the person after me does a better job than me and I think

[1:28:49] this will get us in that right step and move us forward to make sure that we are

[1:28:53] doing the best we can to protect the village as a whole.

[1:28:57] » So question um so not that I don't think you would do a great job but if we would

[1:29:04] foresee that it wasn't working is there a cl is there reasons or clauses that we

[1:29:09] could >> Yes. So it's a one-year contract

[1:29:11] upfront. Um, now just to put this out here and at first, so if the contract is

[1:29:17] cut short by us or him, we still owe the full amount. The contract is for $39,000

[1:29:22] for the year. Um, and then under section 7 and section 8 is the termination

[1:29:28] clauses for both the village. Uh, basically misconduct or good cause would

[1:29:33] be our reason. um and just uh you know shorten it, you can change the wording,

[1:29:39] but basically if he comes out say you can't do this, you can't do this and we

[1:29:43] do it, he has a right to protect himself and walk out the door because you know

[1:29:46] why why deal with a bunch of people that don't want to take their legal advice

[1:29:49] that they're paying for

[1:29:53] your point. I'm going to give you my best advice.

[1:29:57] » Whether you choose to do that or not is up to you. Y

[1:30:00] » um I'm not going to walk out simply because you don't take my advice.

[1:30:04] » Yeah. >> You know it. Um

[1:30:08] » if we become like a hostile >> I'm willing to I'm willing to put my

[1:30:11] legal opinions in writing for you. I'm willing to tell you what the basis for

[1:30:14] this is and I'm telling you willing to tell you what the risk is. Part of my

[1:30:19] job is is to one of the real risks for not following

[1:30:26] um legal advice is that there is a possibility that notwithstanding the

[1:30:33] fact that you all have insurance all be held personally responsible.

[1:30:43] It's like, wow. Hey, back up.

[1:31:03] I've seen it.

[1:31:08] Um, because of that risk, I'm going to your

[1:31:13] phone calls 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I take I answer phone calls.

[1:31:20] I respond to emails um and text me text messages

[1:31:26] uh nearly instantly. Um if you leave me a message or phone call, I'm going to

[1:31:33] call respond certainly within 24 hours. And if you send me a text,

[1:31:40] you know, that's realistically that's how I most often respond. And and that

[1:31:44] would be for any of the council members, um, chief of police, his officers, uh,

[1:31:52] your village administrator. If you have a legal question, I'm here to help. See

[1:31:56] if I can help you through. >> So, couple things.

[1:32:00] » It's better than what we had. >> Yeah. So, a couple things. And luckily,

[1:32:04] like I'm going to say we do a good job. I'm not going to say we do the best job

[1:32:07] because again, everyone makes mistakes and we only know what we know, right?

[1:32:11] Um, you know, we talked about Sunshine Law um last month because we have new

[1:32:15] members to take that was one of John's first questions was did everyone take

[1:32:18] it? Everyone's taking our new ones and we'll be doing the online training. Then

[1:32:22] he comes back and he's like, well, have you guys done all of your cyber security

[1:32:26] and cyber attack um classes because they are due by June 1st, right? Y

[1:32:32] » and it's like we have stuff in place but this is the first time I ever heard that

[1:32:35] it's now a state requirement. Everything has to be done by June 1st. We are

[1:32:39] working on that. We got a class set up um March 20th I believe it is. So like

[1:32:44] but again without having been our attorney he's like here's the things

[1:32:47] just right off like do you even know about this? Um and that means a lot you

[1:32:51] know >> I think we were getting pretty baseline

[1:32:53] service as it was. >> Can I call you Michelle?

[1:32:56] » Yes you can. >> Okay. You know, Michelle, the thing is

[1:32:58] is that first of all, if your lawyer's not

[1:33:01] showing up, he doesn't know what you don't what you know or don't know,

[1:33:05] right? You don't know you're in trouble until

[1:33:08] it's too late and you pick up the phone and you're the first on your mind is

[1:33:13] he's charging me by the hour and and that dissuades that everyone

[1:33:19] backs off because you know I don't want to be I don't want to start the car

[1:33:24] because I don't know where it stops and that's why

[1:33:29] for a community want to encourage people to to pick up the phone and call me and

[1:33:37] Let's see if we can stay ahead of the bad stuff.

[1:33:40] » I would have to say that when you think about it, $20 an hour before that's only

[1:33:46] 30 hours. It comes up to 3,000. Am I right?

[1:33:50] » Yeah. >> $30,000. Sorry. All of a sudden, I was

[1:33:53] like, I'm not ming. Um, that's only 30 hours. If we have a problem, 30 hours

[1:33:58] goes real fast. >> Yeah.

[1:34:02] » I mean, if we're thinking about it. Well, also if you have questions and you

[1:34:07] need extra time, you'll feel like you can ask the questions where I

[1:34:11] » I honestly feel like maybe we were because of cost instead we were not

[1:34:16] maybe like >> always getting all the

[1:34:20] » So I I actually think it sounds good to me but that's everybody else too.

[1:34:24] » Go through a couple >> just just the idea of having someone

[1:34:27] that we can call and all all >> can actually start moving things

[1:34:32] forward. >> Yeah. I feel like that'll help

[1:34:35] » that we've been just sort of doing our best at I mean we're all very smart

[1:34:38] people here but have education so I mean we're not smart but that doesn't mean

[1:34:44] make us smart in ordinances

[1:34:48] » I mean because we've got all kinds of things

[1:34:52] » yeah lots of things >> one of the most interesting things I

[1:34:56] found for communities is you can't just know how to build widgets

[1:35:03] You have to know the contract just

[1:35:16] enough to know I know

[1:35:24] to Cory's

[1:35:39] All right. So, just to touch on the contract going down through it. Um, this

[1:35:43] contract would commence today for $39,000 in 13 monthly installments of

[1:35:49] $3,000 a month um on or before the 30th of each year. for payment being due at

[1:35:55] the end of this month. Um, we also agree to participate in OPERS for John, which

[1:36:02] would be an additional cost to us for that. Um, he would be a W2 employee. Um,

[1:36:08] anything outside of the contract, he would become a contractor at $150 an

[1:36:12] hour and he'd be $1099 for that. Um, that's section 4, extraordinary legal

[1:36:17] services. Um, hopefully we never have anything like that, but you never know

[1:36:20] what's going to come up. >> Falls under that. It happens.

[1:36:23] » But what what falls under extraordinary >> if I have

[1:36:27] » like what have you seen fall >> right?

[1:36:30] » Um uh somebody sued the community of

[1:36:35] Rushville in in small claims court. having to smoke. Um the getting

[1:36:42] injunctions to tell people to clean up their property uh

[1:36:48] in common police court and I build $1,000.

[1:36:52] Uh trust me, I blew through um 10 hours on that very very quickly, but I didn't,

[1:37:01] you know, I didn't build the $3,500 it cost. Um,

[1:37:05] » so basically if our zoning stuff goes through the mayor's court, it falls

[1:37:09] under this. >> If you have zoning issues,

[1:37:14] step by step, you know, if you have zoning issues, first it's going to go to

[1:37:18] the board of zoning appeals, >> which is you.

[1:37:22] » Yeah. >> Then it's going to go to council, which

[1:37:25] is you. >> Yeah.

[1:37:27] » And then there's the potential that it could end court. Um, but

[1:37:33] I've never been to court on a zoning issue.

[1:37:36] » Okay. And if if we have questions though about zoning issues, we can ask those

[1:37:41] and that falls under the regular >> to me to me going to court where we've

[1:37:45] decided to sue somebody. >> Okay.

[1:37:49] » Okay. >> You know, if uh if we get turned into

[1:37:54] the Ohio Civil Rights Commission or the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission

[1:37:59] or somebody like that, something that's really

[1:38:03] beyond. I I haven't seen that happen.

[1:38:08] You know, I don't I have in 22 years over three communities, I've probably

[1:38:16] gone on an hour basis three times.

[1:38:23] » What I tell you

[1:38:31] exception

[1:38:34] There are some circumstances where the state

[1:38:39] legislature has said that I have to go to

[1:38:44] you know it's it's your fault to to fund me or not fun

[1:38:50] » be individual contracts essentially outside of this one.

[1:38:56] Do we have the funding in place for this amount already?

[1:38:59] » Um, so our current budget doesn't have this funding in it, but we can pull

[1:39:02] money out of what I always call our reserves type thing. Um, and then add it

[1:39:07] into there. So, yes, >> there's nothing.

[1:39:09] » Yes, there's nothing cover that. >> Um, and then once we figure some stuff

[1:39:14] out, some of this cost will also be shared with out of Mayor's court, which

[1:39:17] has its own perks, per se, to help pay for legal fees. Um, you know,

[1:39:25] because I would be offering advice on a wide variety of issues. You know, you're

[1:39:31] welcome to to pick at least a percentage of my funding through water and sewer.

[1:39:37] » Yep. >> Yeah. Typically what we've what we've

[1:39:41] done since especially since I've taken over for we've taken all those little

[1:39:45] hits off of all these little random because everyone likes to hit the parks

[1:39:48] and that you don't have money for lifeguards you know some something you

[1:39:51] need and you're just trying to split the cost for no reason. So a lot of times we

[1:39:54] just hit general fund unless it hits like

[1:39:57] » you know Sam works for both >> and water billing so she split three

[1:40:02] different ways because that makes sense but the little tiny stuff we don't sweat

[1:40:05] that I guess you know to break it out as much. Um because then you don't have

[1:40:10] funding for what you actually need to do the work um type thing. Um all right. So

[1:40:16] any questions? >> Um I have one.

[1:40:18] » Okay. >> Would you be attending mayor's court

[1:40:20] like regularly or just >> I would be the prosecutor mayor's court.

[1:40:24] » Okay. And you'd be here not by phone? >> I I don't understand it by phone.

[1:40:32] » Okay. Has that been the >> So our our current situation that we had

[1:40:36] with our solicitor is we would submit the cases to him and then he would do

[1:40:41] the plea deals in writing for us um convey to the to the

[1:40:48] » you know I've met Sam >> 30 minutes ago. I haven't shunated

[1:40:56] a couple times. I don't know how she runs her court, but a couple things.

[1:41:01] First and foremost, in my experience, it's the clerk who is the king in in the

[1:41:07] court in in the courtroom on mayor's court. U and I'm not going to upset her

[1:41:14] apple card, but I am going to be here. I am plan on being here twice a month for

[1:41:19] run, not not phoning it, >> which will be helpful because um just

[1:41:25] because I've one other thing is I am stepping back from being the magistrate.

[1:41:30] Um Kylie who is on is a magistrate for us that we've hired. She will be coming

[1:41:35] on full-time to be doing those and I'll be backing off. I'm gonna keep up my

[1:41:38] training just in case some weird crappy stuff happens. John's gonna tell me not

[1:41:43] to ever sit behind this desk. Don't don't ever sit behind there,

[1:41:46] » but um >> move on. You got better things to do.

[1:41:49] » Um so that that's where we're at with that. So I think we have a good team in

[1:41:53] place. Um and >> so she would then hear everything.

[1:41:57] » Yes. >> Yep. And she's the one that I went and

[1:42:00] watched. And I hate to use the word training because there's no train

[1:42:03] training per se. It's just I watched her. So her and I have the same I have

[1:42:06] our same way of doing so. It's not going to be a

[1:42:10] shock to Sam or the system per se.

[1:42:14] It'll be an easy transition. Um, any other questions?

[1:42:21] » Okay. All right. So, in front of you all, we have the ordinance to employ

[1:42:27] John and accept this um contract and to pass it as an emergency.

[1:42:33] » It's incorrect because the wrong money is on it.

[1:42:37] » No, it's 39,000. >> It says 30,000 a year.

[1:42:40] » You have the old one. >> Okay, that's a possibility. But that's

[1:42:43] what I got. >> Was that mine?

[1:42:46] » It's not in your packet. Was that in your pile?

[1:42:49] » I don't know. >> If you look in your packet, the packet I

[1:42:52] made, >> it's the really long one.

[1:42:53] » The original. >> Yeah.

[1:42:55] » Is the one that you all have say 39? Okay. Cuz that's the one I did today.

[1:43:01] » No. No. >> It's better to catch it than not.

[1:43:04] » Huh? >> It's better to catch it than not. The

[1:43:06] one we will be signing says 39.

[1:43:11] We like check and recheck and check. >> But he has my packet.

[1:43:15] » I still have your packet on it. >> I give him my original. So this must

[1:43:21] Hey, I'm just double checking. I'm your

[1:43:27] » It's the long one. >> Oh, I have the long one.

[1:43:31] » So this is the There wasn't >> I'm saying in your packet.

[1:43:34] » Listen, when we both

[1:43:37] Okay. But what the mayor has that we're going to pass around 39.

[1:43:45] » So no, that's fine. No, because it's a good catch in case something

[1:43:49] » Exactly. It's a good catch. >> So there's nothing wrong with that. Um

[1:43:52] so for $39,000, $3,000 a month, um Penny will have to give you all the employment

[1:43:58] stuff. Um she'll get that for you. Um I did hear a motion.

[1:44:03] » I made a motion to >> by Michelle, seconded by Corey. Any

[1:44:06] discussion? Yes. We're going to start now. Mayor.

[1:44:11] » Okay. >> It's an emergency ordinance.

[1:44:14] An emergency ordinance requires that this ordinance be read by title.

[1:44:17] » So, you have to read it word for word for the title.

[1:44:20] » Okay. >> You have to ask for a motion to suspend

[1:44:23] the rules >> and declare an emergency.

[1:44:25] » Okay. And we'll have a >> second on that.

[1:44:28] » And if that passes by three4 vote, then we'll have a vote on a second motion to

[1:44:34] enact the ordinance. >> Okay. already making.

[1:44:37] » Okay. Wait, tell me those steps one more time. I'm sorry.

[1:44:39] » Step one >> to read the title.

[1:44:41] » The mayor is going to read. >> Yep.

[1:44:44] » Work for work. >> And he's going to say it's because it's

[1:44:48] an emergency. I'm going to ask for a motion to suspend

[1:44:53] the rules. >> Typically, the rules require three

[1:44:57] readings. >> Suspend the rules and declare an

[1:45:01] emergency.

[1:45:05] » Okay. So it' be like when we do our budget, how we do that?

[1:45:08] » No, it's not. >> It's not. Okay. See, we all have good

[1:45:11] stuff to learn >> because the budget doesn't require

[1:45:14] emergency. >> No,

[1:45:16] » it goes into effect immediately. >> So, we've been doing that wrong, too.

[1:45:20] And see, that's what I'm going to love about this.

[1:45:21] » And we're going to see all these years. You guys looking at me thinking, you

[1:45:26] guys know

[1:45:29] » a motion to suspend the rules. >> Okay.

[1:45:34] » Okay. Not a problem. >> Okay, th

[1:45:38] this is a lot of typing for Sam. So, if we're gonna have to go baby steps for

[1:45:42] me, okay, like a lot of copying and pasting. If I have to do Okay,

[1:45:45] » can you Okay, go slow. She's safe. >> Please,

[1:45:48] » I'll go slower than normal. >> Not I'm not promising you the look.

[1:45:53] » That's fine. I get it all the time. >> That all the time.

[1:45:56] » An ordinance employing John M. Browning, attorney at law, as village solicitor

[1:45:59] and declaring an emergency. So, the first vote is to ask to suspend the

[1:46:05] rules and declare an emergency. >> Right.

[1:46:08] » I'll make a motion. >> All right.

[1:46:10] » I'll second. >> Shell made the motion. Courtney or Katie

[1:46:14] second. >> Discussion.

[1:46:18] » Approved to make a mistake. >> We're fine. Discussion.

[1:46:22] » If not, roll call. >> Katie was second.

[1:46:24] » Yes. >> Thank you.

[1:46:26] » President. >> Yes.

[1:46:27] » Council Henry. >> Yes.

[1:46:29] » Council. >> Yes. Counciloman Terrier.

[1:46:31] » Yes. >> Counciloman Van Dyke.

[1:46:33] » Yes. >> Councilman Snider.

[1:46:34] » Yes. >> All right. Now to pass.

[1:46:38] » And now is there a motion to um pass the ordinance employing John Brown.

[1:46:46] » There's a uh I make a motion to pass the ordinance to I'm not going to say that

[1:46:50] right. Ember. >> Browning.

[1:46:52] » Oh, Browning. >> All right. That M is just the middle

[1:46:56] initial. >> Okay. Okay. And I'll second the

[1:46:58] ordinance to employ John and Brownie. >> All right. Michelle made the ordinance

[1:47:02] uh made the motion for ordinance 0312601.

[1:47:05] » Second by Corey. Discussion. >> Roll call.

[1:47:10] » President Jamal. >> Yes.

[1:47:12] » Council Henry. >> Yes.

[1:47:13] » Council Penguin. >> Yes.

[1:47:15] » Council Harrier. >> Yes.

[1:47:16] » Council. >> Yes.

[1:47:18] » Council. >> I like this already.

[1:47:21] » I can see that in your face. >> You're like an appointment on Tuesday.

[1:47:26] get together and talk. Um, I look forward to working with all.

[1:47:31] » Okay, we appreciate it. Um, we hope this is a long journey together.

[1:47:37] » All right, so we'll kind of get back into old business. Um, this was part of

[1:47:42] uh new business, but we'll go ahead and move back to old business. Um, property

[1:47:45] taxes. So, again, we've talked about this. Um, John, this is my favorite

[1:47:50] thing about council meetings is standing up and going to my board.

[1:47:53] » It is. >> So, we track our

[1:47:56] like what we've done, what we want to do, kind of where we're at, and we'll

[1:48:00] add added to it. Um, property taxes because we have our two levies this

[1:48:07] year, one for the 2 mill,

[1:48:12] our police operating, one that was passed back in the 80s, and of course

[1:48:15] your inside village, all that. So,

[1:48:20] we need to do something and we need to do something relatively fast because,

[1:48:25] you know, we want to get this one the November election. Um, so I did reach

[1:48:30] out to the auditor's office to find out what a new mill would produce in

[1:48:36] Pleasantville and as for 2026 data, one mill would bring in $19,576.15.

[1:48:44] They're getting g getting me some updated information on medium home

[1:48:48] value. We're still using 2023 data on that. They were hoping to have that to

[1:48:51] me by today, but give it to me. Um,

[1:48:58] » what what is the general feeling? Like we talked about keeping the property

[1:49:02] taxes, but again, we'd have to go to new because this this doesn't make it

[1:49:05] anymore that this we we don't have we can't continue.

[1:49:10] » So, how do we go to new on property tax? So new, we would go ahead and put on the

[1:49:14] levy is new because as the new legislation is, we got rid of the

[1:49:18] replace. So now we have renew or renew. Renew means it stays the same. It's at

[1:49:22] the levels of what was originally passed. And that's what these numbers

[1:49:24] reflect. Replace used to be like the way to go.

[1:49:29] If you had it, you replace it. Replace it either with par millillage or up to

[1:49:34] the current property values. So they've got rid of that. So now it's renew. So

[1:49:38] our option is keep the same or go up this. Um,

[1:49:44] and again, it's not go up to this, but reduce this down to keep the end result

[1:49:49] the same. Like, we need to figure out how much money, you know, if we keep it

[1:49:52] two mills at this level, we're going to be fine for a couple

[1:49:57] years, but then what do we do after that? You know, and these in the past,

[1:50:00] these are six years. I'm talking about dropping letting them

[1:50:06] expire and then looking at our income tax. And based on our base of residents,

[1:50:12] since most of our homeowners, property owners are fixed on income elderly, they

[1:50:18] most likely are going to not vote for these. And then of course, we have all

[1:50:22] the special interest groups out there that are trying to abolish taxes. Um

[1:50:26] that's going to persuade some people um you know, we may have a better chance of

[1:50:31] passing some type of additional income. Whether it be a half% 3/4% 1% half%

[1:50:36] would bring in about $80,000 which would get us, you know, at a good level for a

[1:50:43] longer period of time. So, I mean, are there thoughts on what

[1:50:47] we think? >> My thoughts are is we have a lot of

[1:50:50] rentals in the village and I don't know that we get a lot of income tax from

[1:50:53] that, but if we would take it off of property tax, then the people that own

[1:50:57] those homes are not paying their fair share for the rentals that are probably

[1:51:02] half or more in the in the village because they don't live live here and

[1:51:08] pay. So, I understand the whole like the senior thing, but I also feel like the

[1:51:14] income tax then puts it solely on the higher earners in the village, not

[1:51:20] across the board to everybody that lives here. That's my concern.

[1:51:24] » And to that point on the income tax, we're only picking them up when they

[1:51:27] sign up for water. If the rentals aren't changing over who the water service's

[1:51:32] name is in, >> y

[1:51:33] » if just a landlord paying it, we don't know when residents come in and go out.

[1:51:36] » No. So we don't have any way to pick them up to add them to the Rita tag.

[1:51:40] » So Rita bumps up against federal. So they file federal for Pleasantville.

[1:51:44] Rita picks them up. We don't divulge. >> So they might live here for a whole year

[1:51:48] before we pick them up the next tax season.

[1:51:50] » Whatever they file their federal for when they live in Pleasantville

[1:51:52] » or live two months and leave >> or live two months and leave and never

[1:51:57] file federal tax. >> Yeah. I mean

[1:51:59] » there's a lot of turnover. that

[1:52:04] does Rita the property owners the landlord

[1:52:11] » Rita's the income tax the landlords if they don't live in town they're not

[1:52:14] paying >> oh you're talking about they're making

[1:52:16] the money in the town >> yeah but we can't we don't seem to be

[1:52:20] able to track what they make >> to be sure

[1:52:23] » what they make we just know what they >> Well I'm just saying there's no you know

[1:52:27] knowing that they're reporting what they make especially if their tenants are

[1:52:31] asked to pay cash. >> I'm just going to be bold,

[1:52:34] » which happens. >> Yes.

[1:52:36] » We have some special people.

[1:52:43] » So, so, you know, serious conversation. Which

[1:52:47] way do you think we want to move? >> I don't think

[1:52:52] asking for a new bill levy pass probably. People are stressed out

[1:52:57] because of the economy. They're not going to a new levy.

[1:53:01] » Uh renewals seem to pass a lot easier than new leies.

[1:53:05] » But if we do a renewal, these numbers >> stay the same.

[1:53:08] » Stay the same. We don't it won't cut it. >> Yeah.

[1:53:12] » That puts us in the deficit. >> What's the process for increasing the

[1:53:15] income tax? >> Um it is

[1:53:18] » we just say so and it happens. >> Well, it has to go on the ballot% has to

[1:53:22] we have to do an ordinance put on the ballot with the proper language and then

[1:53:26] it goes to the voters to approve. So let's So if we go to the ballot for an

[1:53:30] income tax and let the millage for the property tax expire and gets voted down,

[1:53:35] then we're >> just completely out.

[1:53:37] » Well, and if we put and it holds true on both sides. So if we put this up, it

[1:53:41] fails. We're still we're without nothing.

[1:53:43] » Did the income tax have an expiration date?

[1:53:46] » Um with income tax, it's not you can't do tax anymore. It still has to be

[1:53:51] » for 1% >> for no for over 1%.

[1:53:53] » Yeah, I it has to be renew. So we get the 1% stays.

[1:53:58] » 1% boy stays. >> Okay.

[1:53:59] » Yes. That doesn't get touched. We add two and then that has a

[1:54:04] » All right. All right. >> But if we go after that this year and

[1:54:07] let the property tax millage drop. >> Yeah.

[1:54:10] » We could be >> double whammy.

[1:54:14] » Hypothetically, let's say we're going to let this drop property tax property tax

[1:54:17] on there and we put on the ballot. It starts January one. It starts January 1,

[1:54:21] right? >> Let's say we ditch the income tax. stick

[1:54:25] to this. Remember, they collect a year behind. So, let's say it doesn't pass in

[1:54:29] November, we still have March and then they can still collect for the 2026 year

[1:54:34] in 2027. So, we wouldn't be missing money.

[1:54:37] » So, we got time to recover reg.

[1:54:43] » So, I mean, it could be as simple as we try this as a new

[1:54:49] and figure out, you know, do we need to keep these two or do we need to bump

[1:54:52] them up a little bit more? If that fails and then revisit the income.

[1:54:55] » So the replace is not an option anymore. >> Replace is no longer an option.

[1:54:59] » So even at the same millillage as a new then that's the only way to increase the

[1:55:03] value. >> Yes.

[1:55:04] » Based on the current >> Okay.

[1:55:11] » So with the increases that just went in that everybody's upset about.

[1:55:15] » Yes. And that's what that's how we get this number now.

[1:55:20] And that's for each mill is 19 >> each mill for mill.

[1:55:23] » And I will say I've been hearing that they're going to look to do some

[1:55:27] differences from that. So in a couple months that could all change.

[1:55:30] » Yes.

[1:55:33] » Yes. There's still legislation being pushed through that.

[1:55:37] » Well, I'm even talking about it. The auditors I've heard that not even

[1:55:40] outside people trying to get rid of it. Yeah.

[1:55:42] » I've heard that they're re-evaluating or >> looking at

[1:55:46] » Yeah. our second year of taxes may be reduced because of these new laws that

[1:55:50] will be coming into play. So again, general thought which

[1:55:56] direction to go. We need to pull the trigger on something so we can start

[1:55:59] moving forward so that way we're not scrambling at the last minute.

[1:56:02] » I would vote just renew keep it the same.

[1:56:06] » Okay. So the deficit >> means we have no money lay off means we

[1:56:13] don't have a pole. We don't have stuff like that. That's what that means in

[1:56:16] black and white. So our pool is completely funded by this 21,000. So if

[1:56:21] this doesn't this now doesn't cover our pool.

[1:56:25] » This barely this doesn't cover our payroll now. So if this doesn't go up,

[1:56:31] we don't have a pool. Like it's just it. And I hate to use the pool as a

[1:56:36] reference because it's like a threat and that's not what it's meant to be. But

[1:56:39] it's just like that's the reality of it. But you're saying we we do a new one

[1:56:44] mill >> if we do

[1:56:45] » try a new one mill. it fails, then we can bounce back and

[1:56:50] » we address it and maybe to go out of income tax.

[1:56:53] » Well, if we put it back on as a new 2 mill, it'll be at this level,

[1:56:57] » right? >> That'll be double that.

[1:56:58] » It'll be double that. It'll be 40,000. Then like, and I'm just using this for

[1:57:03] an example that will give us money to run our pool plus some. So, it gives us

[1:57:08] buffer for years, >> right?

[1:57:10] » Now, general fund is a little bit different because general fund is we

[1:57:13] don't know what's coming out general fund from year to year. I mean we have

[1:57:16] our our baseline but grants things like that emergencies that come up but that

[1:57:21] will definitely put us in a better spot by having that extra 20,000 and again

[1:57:26] this will never change. This will change depending on valuation and all that.

[1:57:32] » So I'd be inclined to go after the new the numbers up to where

[1:57:38] they are based on current values. But is there a way we can kind of get

[1:57:43] the word out to the public that >> it's not technically it's technically a

[1:57:47] new but in re in reality it's the old replace

[1:57:51] » like try to >> and with all this always comes with

[1:57:53] education I hate putting something out there just saying hey surprise we got

[1:57:57] something on the ballot right >> so things that we've always done like

[1:57:59] we've done >> any newsletter

[1:58:01] » newsletter public input now again we probably already have our decision made

[1:58:06] when we get the public input but have those meetings have people come in

[1:58:09] because it may persuade Or we can also take that as an

[1:58:12] education. >> We can educate them and maybe they go

[1:58:14] and tell their neighbors. >> So, you know, I'm proponent on doing all

[1:58:18] that stuff versus, hey, I show up the ballot box and all a sudden you guys

[1:58:21] have something on here I didn't know nothing about and I don't know how to

[1:58:23] vote on it, so I'm going to vote no. >> Right.

[1:58:27] Yeah. So, >> okay.

[1:58:28] » My point is we should probably go after the new and try to educate them

[1:58:32] » that it's not it's >> the old replace. So, income tax, let's

[1:58:37] not talk about that then. I think that's what I'm hearing. General consensus.

[1:58:39] » Yeah. because we can like in my brain because we have a buffer here. If we do

[1:58:44] fail, >> then we can reevaluate next year

[1:58:47] » and that's fine. I just need a way for it. So, this I think we can keep it at 2

[1:58:51] mil. No new. This one I'm going to double look at. It may need to go up to

[1:58:54] like two and a half or something like that. Not by much, but we'll see. I'll

[1:58:58] figure out what because again, this is for a six-year term. So, I want to make

[1:59:01] sure that that money will hopefully get us through the six

[1:59:05] years and keep us, you know, at our funding levels that we need. Again,

[1:59:11] government never has enough money to do everything what everyone wants us to do.

[1:59:14] It's doing the best that we can with what we have. So, we'll go ahead and do

[1:59:18] that. I'll start working on that. I'll get more information from the auditors.

[1:59:21] Um John will be talking to you then once we

[1:59:25] get, you know, figure out what we need to do on the process and all that.

[1:59:30] And we will go on the November ballot. So, we got we got plenty of time. That's

[1:59:34] why I want to have that discussion now. If we if we see that it fails in

[1:59:38] November, can we come back in primaries the next year and put something up to

[1:59:43] » give us maybe two shots to get something done the following year?

[1:59:46] » Yeah, there's you're never out of time. I mean, just like school districts that

[1:59:49] fail fail fail. You just keep trying, keep trying different ways until you

[1:59:52] find something that the public will accept. Um, and unfortunately, sometimes

[1:59:55] it's because they enjoy now they're and I hate saying that because that's not

[2:00:01] the way we should be doing things. >> How you get through to people sometimes.

[2:00:07] expire when the money is end.

[2:00:14] » So we still get paid out all 27 >> 26 collectors will get paid in 27.

[2:00:22] » Well, yeah, they're they're taxes in 27. You're paying 26.

[2:00:28] » The levies expire in 2026. So, we have to have something on the ballot for

[2:00:33] 2027.

[2:00:36] » Before we get to 2028, we got no money. >> We don't have this,

[2:00:42] » right?

[2:00:47] » Yeah.

[2:00:55] And what I always tell people because they're like, "Well, why can't you get

[2:00:57] rid of that?" You can't. Guess what? You're going to pay that.

[2:01:06] Yeah, this is just how they did this. If we give it, it's there for

[2:01:12] someone to take the other

[2:01:20] gingers. >> And if anyone else has any input, I

[2:01:23] mean, I'm not trying to monopolize the conversation. I'm just giving you my

[2:01:26] opinion.

[2:01:29] processing. >> It's a lot.

[2:01:32] » It is. It is a lot. >> All right.

[2:01:40] » So, we'll move on to new business. Right.

[2:01:45] » Did you finish your >> No, I didn't. The Pleasantville

[2:01:51] agreement with the ICE uh program. Um you guys voted on to approve that.

[2:01:57] um through a phone vote at the last council meeting because there was still

[2:02:01] some missing information and that was passed. And then of course the repairs

[2:02:08] for 101 or 100 North Main Street for $10,600 and that's being done now.

[2:02:15] Any other old business? Uh we've already done ordinance 312601.

[2:02:21] » Mayor, can I go back? >> Yes, sir.

[2:02:24] repairs to 100 North Main Street >> brought to council by

[2:02:31] phone or text. Tell me tell me about that procedure.

[2:02:35] So, um I guess just in to generalize it,

[2:02:41] sometimes we have like, hey, this is coming um next week after our council

[2:02:45] meeting >> and we discuss it, right?

[2:02:48] » But we don't meet for another month and it's like one of those things like we

[2:02:50] got to get this moving or have a special meeting,

[2:02:53] » right? >> Um and then council says, "Well, let's

[2:02:55] get that information. we have other than X and we we agree to doing a phone vote,

[2:03:03] text, email, something like that and then that all goes through Sam and she

[2:03:07] manages that and records those. >> So this this thing for the uh

[2:03:15] I'm less concerned about the memorandum of understanding with

[2:03:18] » ICE >> because it's not money.

[2:03:22] » I'm more concerned about expending money by voice.

[2:03:24] » Okay. >> So Is it are we in a position where we

[2:03:28] can have a new vote on this motion? >> Yes, sir.

[2:03:30] » In person. >> Right here now. Do that.

[2:03:33] » Yes, not a problem. >> Um so, and then also some like we're

[2:03:39] learning together here. Sometimes other things we do is like things come up here

[2:03:42] and it's a contract. Let's call it that. And we don't have an ordinance for it.

[2:03:45] So, we'll go ahead and pass it here and then the next meeting we'll bring in the

[2:03:49] actual ordinance to pass the contract and then we'll record it as the

[2:03:52] ordinance.

[2:03:56] Sorry. >> Is that palpable?

[2:03:59] » No. >> No. Okay.

[2:04:01] » Something that we can talk about Tuesday.

[2:04:03] » Okay. >> During co you were allowed to do that.

[2:04:07] » We're allowed to have Zoom meetings or meetings. State legislature took all

[2:04:11] that power away that authority away. >> So

[2:04:16] it's going to have to be in person. >> Okay. Right.

[2:04:21] » So and that's why you know particularly this expenditure of

[2:04:25] » 10 grand. >> Okay. Nope. Not a problem.

[2:04:29] » So there is just you know if there is like this the the paperwork was emailed

[2:04:38] out >> and I have all those emails and or text

[2:04:42] all of those are >> if ever we need those too. I mean just

[2:04:47] because it's in writing. >> Okay. All right. Do I hear a motion to

[2:04:52] to approve the expenditure for Perry Mason uh for $10,600 for the repairs to

[2:04:58] 100 North Main Street? >> I'll make the motion.

[2:05:01] » Michelle made the motion. >> I'll second.

[2:05:03] » Second by Courtney. Discussion. Roll call.

[2:05:11] » Was there an ordinance that went along with this?

[2:05:14] » Not on this one, though. >> Okay.

[2:05:17] » Should there be It depends on the nature of the

[2:05:22] ordinance. Um, this is for a repair, so it's it's not going to take longer than

[2:05:29] a year to complete. You know, candidly, the village administrator might have had

[2:05:35] authority to do this on his own. Mhm. >> Again, I don't know what yours

[2:05:42] administrator

[2:05:45] administrator has. >> So, we do not have currently a village

[2:05:49] administrator. >> Okay.

[2:05:52] So, in that in that event, yeah, you are required to have a contract.

[2:06:07] treat it like everything else in this packet for tonight.

[2:06:11] » I think we're good without knowing more of it.

[2:06:15] Would like to see a voice on it. >> Okay.

[2:06:19] » Yeah, we have a resolution that includes that 106 coming

[2:06:24] resolution 01. >> Yeah, there's a resolution to push the

[2:06:28] money aroundations. >> Oh, that's for the finance side. Right.

[2:06:33] » But that's not the contract approving the money. So they're two different

[2:06:39] » just do the roll. >> President.

[2:06:43] » Yes. >> Council.

[2:06:45] » Yes. >> Councilman.

[2:06:47] » Yes. >> Yes.

[2:06:49] » Council. >> Yes.

[2:06:51] » Council Snider. >> Yes.

[2:06:55] » All right. Any other new business or old business? I'm sorry.

[2:07:00] All right. We'll move to new business. Uh we've already completed ordinance

[2:07:03] 312601. So we'll move on to ordinance 3122602.

[2:07:08] An ordinance authorizing the mayor and/or fiscal officer to enter into a

[2:07:11] contract with Rickettts Excavating Incorporated for excavating and

[2:07:15] rehabilitation services to 108 East Walnut Street Water Tower area and the

[2:07:20] declaration of an emergency. So for clarification, because of this being a

[2:07:24] contract, we still have to do the um >> emergency vote and then

[2:07:29] » suspend the rules. Yeah.

[2:07:33] If you're going to declare emergency and I have that in here, right?

[2:07:37] » Yes. >> Ordinance 312602.

[2:07:40] » Yeah.

[2:07:44] » I think I saw emergency language in it. So,

[2:07:47] » yes. >> Read it by title first,

[2:07:50] » which I did, >> and ask for a motion to suspend the

[2:07:53] rules and declare an emergency. >> Okay. Uh, do I hear a motion to suspend

[2:07:57] rules and declare emergency? >> I'll make a motion. Michelle made the

[2:08:01] motion. Do I hear a second? >> Bob second. Discussion.

[2:08:07] Roll call. >> President Jim.

[2:08:09] » Yes. >> Counciloman Henry.

[2:08:10] » Yes. >> Council Pangor.

[2:08:12] » Yes. >> Councilwoman Her.

[2:08:13] » Yes. >> Counciloman Van Dyke.

[2:08:15] » Yes. >> Council.

[2:08:16] » Yes. >> All right. So, I need a motion to pass

[2:08:21] ordinance 312602.

[2:08:26] » Do I hear a motion? >> I'll motion.

[2:08:28] » Scott made the motion. Second. >> Second it.

[2:08:30] » Second by Katie. Discussion. Roll call.

[2:08:35] » President Jamal. >> Yes.

[2:08:37] » Councilwoman Henry. >> Yes.

[2:08:39] » Council. >> Yes.

[2:08:41] » Council Har. >> Yes.

[2:08:42] » Council. >> Yes.

[2:08:44] » Council Snder. >> Yes.

[2:08:48] » Pass that around. All right. Uh, Pleasantville Police car

[2:08:53] number four, the 20 2017 Ford Explorer. Uh, Nick touched base on that. um that

[2:08:59] was totaled on three or 213 2026. Um

[2:09:04] we've been in contact with our insurance company. We've not made the claim yet.

[2:09:07] Um they our big concern, our big question first was, you know, are you

[2:09:11] guys going to drop us? What are the ramifications other than increased

[2:09:14] premiums? Um you know, court till you file the claim, but we're not going to

[2:09:18] drop you blah blah blah. So, um this car was a donor car from Reynoldsburg. So,

[2:09:25] we did not purchase the car. All the most all the equipment was able to be

[2:09:29] taken out of it. Correct, Nick? And the only expense that we had in it was the

[2:09:34] um the decals, which was about three grand. Um so I didn't know if council

[2:09:41] wanted to um go and do an insurance claim on this

[2:09:47] or if they wanted to take a loss. Um just kind of have an open discussion

[2:09:52] before we went to the insurance company. How many vehicles do we have in the

[2:09:58] fleet now? >> We have three.

[2:10:00] » We have We still have three. >> Yes. And the one So, we have two

[2:10:04] Explorers, which are our primaries and then our Chevy Tahoe is our backup, but

[2:10:08] that's the one that has >> What was the value of it? Like what what

[2:10:12] did we do a valuation of what it would have been worth? An evaluation is what

[2:10:17] the way the insurance company does it is they give you what basically the KBB was

[2:10:22] of the car and then they give you full replacement of whatever was lost.

[2:10:27] » So the cage the >> Yeah.

[2:10:33] » Yeah. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. We called them and let them know

[2:10:37] but we have not made a >> No, because we've not made a a claim.

[2:10:45] Well, we're up for a review. Anyway, our rates are going to go up because they

[2:10:48] always go up.

[2:11:03] » All equipment out of it. We need some >> There's some stuff that was naturally

[2:11:08] like the overhead light bar and spotlight on the vehicle, stuff like

[2:11:11] that. Pretty much everything on the inside.

[2:11:17] Well, if we had

[2:11:22] » 2019 direct car to car replacement, you'd

[2:11:26] have to get, you know, 2019 specific

[2:11:31] molded seats and the cage and the trunk that slides in the back like a

[2:11:36] locking trunk. You know, some of some of the stuff is like

[2:11:42] or whatever. >> Right.

[2:11:48] » And so you got two working vehicles, one needs repairs,

[2:11:52] » two current officers, one opening. >> Yes.

[2:11:58] And do we know I was asking Jason, do we know what the car, not talking about all

[2:12:02] the gadgets, but like the actual car typically like if we were to have bought

[2:12:07] that, have you >> if you try to go buy like a 2019 with,

[2:12:11] you know, similar miles right now, similar equipment. I'm going to guess

[2:12:16] like

[2:12:20] » that's what I'm getting ready to jump on.

[2:12:23] » I'm going to guess you're going to be in a neighborhood of

[2:12:26] 12 15,000 roughly that type of vehicle with that kind of mileage

[2:12:31] » and then you said it normally goes up 3%. Is that

[2:12:35] » overall for a whole year or is it >> does it drop after a certain period of

[2:12:41] time? >> No, that's just our usual annual

[2:12:43] increase to our insurance premiums. >> Mayor, what did you guys pay last time

[2:12:47] for insurance? >> Uh last time it was what 28,000

[2:12:52] something like that. 26,000 >> per year ahead for a year.

[2:12:58] » Yes. >> Yep.

[2:13:01] Let's see. >> So, an increase per year would be $840

[2:13:05] if it's at 3%. >> If it's at 3%.

[2:13:08] » If that's But that's just the standard increase. It doesn't include the

[2:13:12] accident, the two accidents we've had. And

[2:13:15] » Well, we probably already got the increase from the first accident. I

[2:13:18] would think >> it'll be on this year's.

[2:13:19] » Yeah. So, >> so we could do 6%.

[2:13:25] » Overall, that'd be $1,600.

[2:13:34] » Are you taking that an additional 3% as if as an increase because of the

[2:13:38] accidents? >> Is that why you said 6%?

[2:13:41] » Yeah. Well, if the car is only worth 14,000 and we have to pay $1,600 extra,

[2:13:47] that only takes 10 payment, you know, that's only

[2:13:54] be going to be paying out a lot of money.

[2:13:56] » But if we get more officers, especially with the contract he has, we'll need

[2:14:00] more cars. >> So, if you think about it, $2,000 a year

[2:14:03] for 10 years, that's $20,000.

[2:14:10] I'm sorry. >> So, Reynoldsburg gave a verbal comment

[2:14:16] that they get rid of cards every year and we're eligible to ask for them.

[2:14:20] Doesn't mean we'll receive them, but we're eligible to ask for them.

[2:14:22] » But we also have the potential of theou to get once we get trained up and, you

[2:14:29] know, we get involved to have funds come in to buy something then too. So, for

[2:14:33] reference, um, on Asia Motors, that's where we bought our vehicles before, and

[2:14:37] they're used or they come with everything other than the radios and and

[2:14:42] things like that, computers, and for a 2023,

[2:14:46] um, it's $28,000. And that comes, you know, loaded, I guess, is how to say it,

[2:14:51] other than our radios and the decals. So, radios are about $1,500.

[2:14:56] Computers are about $1,500 roughly, >> which the radio and computer we we

[2:15:01] salvaged. >> Yeah. And then the decal to stripe a car

[2:15:04] is about three grand, >> right?

[2:15:15] » My brain's rolling around that we have. >> So John, do you have any input on that?

[2:15:21] » What I know about police cars is they get used hard. They get used a lot.

[2:15:25] » Y >> a lot of miles, a lot of hard driving, a

[2:15:28] lot of stop and go. >> Y

[2:15:31] They're not built to be abused, but they're abused.

[2:15:35] » I just kind of just rolling around the fact that we have enough cars for

[2:15:38] officers on the Well, we be one short if we get the other spot replaced if they

[2:15:43] would all be on duty at the same time. >> I know it's a risk to have cars to cars

[2:15:51] injured in the line of duty, so to speak,

[2:15:54] » but it just doesn't sit right with me that we put forward two claims on our

[2:15:58] insurance. so close together on a car we got for

[2:16:02] free >> that we salvaged. I just it just doesn't

[2:16:05] it sort of sticks in my craw crawl a little bit. I just don't think that's

[2:16:08] the right thing to do. >> It's kind of where I'm leaning that

[2:16:14] absorbing the extra. I mean, we already got one claim on the first one,

[2:16:18] » put a second one on. Like that could be pretty detrimental to the insurance

[2:16:22] rate. >> Yes.

[2:16:23] » Well, I just It's for a car that was free.

[2:16:25] » Yeah. For a car we have minimal cost in decals. we're likely to get another car

[2:16:30] for free, right? >> And we've got the equipment out. It just

[2:16:32] doesn't seem like the right thing to do. >> All right. So, anyone is anyone opposed

[2:16:38] » to not making a claim? >> Okay.

[2:16:43] » Is there any legal things that we have to do it or

[2:16:48] » can you wrap truck? >> No, because that will give him excuses

[2:16:52] to speed and then Nick's going to have to arrest him and then I'm going to have

[2:16:54] to bail him out of jail and it's just a whole thing. You can you can you can

[2:16:58] wrap the little Green Goblin out there. You can drive it around and I'll get

[2:17:01] rides from Jason places, I guess. I don't know.

[2:17:04] » All right. Um, so John, since we decided not to make a claim on that, should we

[2:17:09] do any formal voting or just keep on trucking? All right. Sounds good to me.

[2:17:14] » Just so everybody knows, we did keep the old car and we do have the car that was

[2:17:20] purchased from Glen Willow $7,000 like that.

[2:17:26] vehicles. So, we should be able to, you know,

[2:17:31] rims, tires, you know, alternators, motors, you know, whatever that we have

[2:17:36] that. So, that's a option to try to keep

[2:17:45] it.

[2:17:51] » Yeah. So we'll go on to resolution 312601 and

[2:17:57] that's your supplemental appropriations and be resolved by the village pleasable

[2:18:01] council that the following supplemental appropriations be approved. General fund

[2:18:05] 10,600 which was for the repairs and maintenance on 100 North Main Street.

[2:18:10] General fund $2,65.15 for professional and technical services.

[2:18:14] Street fund $2,000 for natural gas for the um increase in rates. water fund.

[2:18:20] $10,000 for operating supplies and materials. And that's for the water

[2:18:24] breaks that we've currently have been dealing with. And some other

[2:18:27] » meters. >> Oh, and meters. Yes,

[2:18:28] » that was just meters. >> Meters.

[2:18:32] » All right. Do I hear a motion to approve?

[2:18:34] » I'll make a motion to approve resolution number 312601.

[2:18:38] » All right. Second. >> I'll second it.

[2:18:42] » Second by Are you guys afraid now that we got an attorney?

[2:18:44] » No. >> I'm going to say we don't want that. I

[2:18:47] know they were I have a procedural question though.

[2:18:50] Yeah. >> So resolution isn't supposed to go three

[2:18:53] readings like an ordinance >> because it's because it's budgetary. It

[2:18:58] doesn't have to have three readings. >> Okay.

[2:19:00] » Anything that is budgetary appropriations

[2:19:03] passed. >> Okay. Thank you.

[2:19:08] » Do we have a roll call? I'm sorry. Scott Scott messed me up.

[2:19:11] » Yeah, my bad. >> President.

[2:19:14] » Yes. >> Yes. Councilman Penguin,

[2:19:16] » yes. >> Council,

[2:19:18] » yes. >> Council McD,

[2:19:19] » yes. >> Council Snider,

[2:19:21] » yes. >> All right. Ordinance 312603,

[2:19:25] an ordinance authorizing the mayor and fiscal officer to enter into an

[2:19:28] agreement with Fairfield County Health Department for mosquito fogging and the

[2:19:31] declaration of emergency. Do I hear a motion to suspend the rules and declare

[2:19:35] an emergency? >> I'll make a motion. Go ahead, Katie.

[2:19:38] » Katie made the motion. Seconded by >> I'll second the motion.

[2:19:41] » Second by Corey. Discussion. >> Roll call. Oh, I'm sorry.

[2:19:45] » Sorry. So, um I I guess I just don't remember it was

[2:19:52] $75 a mile. >> Yeah, but there's not even hardly a mile

[2:19:56] in Pleasantville. So, it's >> Oh, so they only they don't choose us to

[2:19:59] come or charge us to come. That's probably the cost that I've seen. That's

[2:20:03] » Yeah. So, what they do is they go out and do five or six or three or four

[2:20:06] villages. I think >> I knew when it came through it was not

[2:20:09] didn't seem that much. finish, I think, is or that was my only question because

[2:20:14] I remember it overall not costing that much. So, I guess that threw me off. So,

[2:20:19] yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. >> Oh, no, you're fine. Roll call.

[2:20:24] » The first one. >> This is to go into emergency.

[2:20:28] » You had Katie made the motion >> to declare an emergency.

[2:20:32] » Uhhuh. >> Cory second. Now we do a roll call.

[2:20:34] » And I did roll with >> President.

[2:20:38] » Yes. >> Councilman Henry.

[2:20:39] » Yes. >> Councilman

[2:20:41] Yes. >> Council may council.

[2:20:44] » Thank you. Yes. >> Councilman Snider.

[2:20:45] » Yes.

[2:20:49] » All right. And then do I hear a motion to pass ordinance 3122603?

[2:20:55] » I'll make a motion >> and I'll second it.

[2:20:57] » Motion made by Katie, seconded by Michelle. Discussion.

[2:21:02] » Roll call. >> President Jamal.

[2:21:05] » Yes. >> Council Henry.

[2:21:06] » Yes. >> Council Horn.

[2:21:08] » Yes. >> Council Harrier. Yes.

[2:21:10] » Council Vand. >> Yes.

[2:21:12] » Council Snider. >> Yes.

[2:21:16] » Sorry. >> All right.

[2:21:20] » Ordinance 3122604, an ordinance approving, adopting, and

[2:21:24] enacting American Legal Publishings Ohio basic code 2026 edition as a code of

[2:21:29] ordinances for the municipality of Pleasantville, Ohio, and declaring an

[2:21:32] emer emergency. I do have to suspend the rules on this because it's a law, right?

[2:21:37] Okay. U motion. They charging you for this mayor.

[2:21:40] » Uh what is our bill on this? $700. >> It's in the back here.

[2:21:44] » It's like 600, but we have three books and then online.

[2:21:48] » Yeah, >> we picked up the online for Chief so

[2:21:51] that he had access to it. I don't think there are any changes.

[2:22:03] » Yeah. So, >> what I was told is every year we have to

[2:22:07] do this because if there is a change and we didn't know it and we get caught up

[2:22:11] in Nick wrote a ticket because OC says this but now we use basic code and they

[2:22:16] don't match anymore. And again, we don't read it cover to

[2:22:21] back to say >> but each year American Publishing puts

[2:22:25] out when they put out a new one, they'll put out a little pamphlet in there and

[2:22:29] says, "Here are the changes." >> Yeah.

[2:22:32] » They didn't do that this year. >> True. True. I didn't see that. Yeah.

[2:22:37] » You know, I'm just I'm just saying. >> Yeah.

[2:22:41] » Let's be safe than sorry because it's only $600. Just in case something Yeah,

[2:22:45] » it's only Yeah. I would rather them say, "Oops, we forgot to send the pamphlet."

[2:22:50] And then we have something that gets it tossed out. Um I'm sorry. Did we do

[2:22:55] suspension of rules? >> Not yet.

[2:22:57] » Okay. Um do I hear a motion to suspend the rules

[2:23:02] and declare an emergency? >> I'll make a motion.

[2:23:05] » Katie made the motion. Seconded. >> Seconded by Courtney.

[2:23:09] » Discussion. >> Roll call. President.

[2:23:14] » Um I will abstain.

[2:23:19] Uh, Councilman Henry, >> yes.

[2:23:22] » Council Hayward, >> yes.

[2:23:24] » Council Harrier, >> yes.

[2:23:26] » Council, >> yes.

[2:23:29] » Councilman Snater, >> yes.

[2:23:32] » All right. And do I hear a motion to pass ordinance 3122604?

[2:23:36] » I'll make a motion to pass ordinance 312604.

[2:23:40] » All right. Corey made the motion. Do I hear a second?

[2:23:43] » I'll second it. Seconded by Katie. Uh discussion.

[2:23:50] Roll call. >> President Jamal.

[2:23:53] » I would vote no. >> No.

[2:23:59] » Councilman Henry. >> Yes.

[2:24:00] » Councilman. >> Yes.

[2:24:02] » Councilman Harrier. >> Yes.

[2:24:03] » Counciloman Van Dyke. >> Yes.

[2:24:06] » Councilman Snider. >> Yes.

[2:24:13] Ordinance 312605, an ordinance authorizing the mayor

[2:24:17] and/or fiscal officer to enter into a contract with Advanced Business

[2:24:20] Communications Incorporated, ABC, for sewer server backup plan support for the

[2:24:26] village server and the declaration of an emergency. Do I hear a motion to suspend

[2:24:30] the rules and to pass it as an emergency?

[2:24:33] » I'll make a motion. >> Um, sorry, Michelle made the motion. Do

[2:24:37] I hear a second? I'll second it.

[2:24:41] » Katie second. Discussion. >> Roll call.

[2:24:45] » President Jamal. >> Yes.

[2:24:46] » Councilman Henry. >> Yes.

[2:24:47] » Councilman. >> Yes.

[2:24:49] » Councilman Henry. >> Yes.

[2:24:50] » Council. >> Yes.

[2:24:52] » Council. >> I'm going to abstain

[2:24:55] because I'm working it. >> All right. Do I hear a motion to pass

[2:25:02] ordinance 03122605?

[2:25:06] » I'll make a motion. >> Michelle made the motion. Oh, that was

[2:25:09] the first part. >> I'll second it.

[2:25:10] » Emergency. Oops. >> Sorry. Getting confused. Now,

[2:25:14] » you're fine. >> Yeah. Cy second.

[2:25:16] » Michelle and Cy. Sorry. >> Discussion.

[2:25:22] Roll call, please. >> Jamal,

[2:25:25] » yes. >> Council Henry,

[2:25:26] » yes. >> Council, yes.

[2:25:28] » Council Harrier, >> yes.

[2:25:29] » Council Van, >> yes.

[2:25:31] » Council Snider, >> now I'll abstain for sure.

[2:25:35] All right. Everyone has in their packet uh the 2026 rental and pool rates. Um

[2:25:41] rental rates for our community center, things like that did not go up. Pull

[2:25:44] rentals did not go up. The only thing that did go up was the admission um to

[2:25:52] as soon as I find mine here real quick.

[2:26:13] Did we sign the legal one? >> The legal one only has spots for the

[2:26:19] mayor. And >> I just want to make sure we didn't miss

[2:26:21] anything. >> No.

[2:26:23] » Um, >> so everything stayed the same other than

[2:26:26] daily admissions. Um, they went up to $4. The Wednesday deal $2. And again, we

[2:26:31] always base this off of what Baltimore, Brman, and us. We kind of keep our our

[2:26:35] fees in line. Baltimore is more than us. Uh they have more to offer, but us and

[2:26:39] Brman um remain the same. >> That was the question I had.

[2:26:43] » What's that? >> You answered my question.

[2:26:44] » Oh, we we do some research before we get here.

[2:26:47] » Yeah.

[2:26:50] » All right. Ordinance

[2:26:56] 3122606.

[2:26:59] An or ordinance authorized the mayor and/or fiscal officer to enter into a

[2:27:02] contract with Mid Ohio Strategic Technologies for copier and cop for

[2:27:06] copier services for the village of Pleasantville and the declaration of

[2:27:10] emergency. Do I hear a motion to suspend the rules and pass as an emergency?

[2:27:14] » I also move. >> Scott made the motion. Second.

[2:27:19] » I'll second it. >> Second by Corey. Discussion.

[2:27:24] Roll call. >> President Jamal?

[2:27:27] » Yes. >> Councilman Henry?

[2:27:28] » Yes. >> Councilman?

[2:27:30] » Yes. >> Yes. Councilman Vay?

[2:27:32] » Yes. >> Councilman Snider?

[2:27:33] » Yes. >> Do I hear a motion to pass ordinance

[2:27:36] 312606? >> I'll make a motion.

[2:27:39] » Katie made the motion. Second. >> I'll second.

[2:27:41] » Second by Scott. Discussion. So is there are is our copier bad or is it

[2:27:47] » um so our we have one more year on a current uh lease. Um it is having some

[2:27:52] problems. So they brought the repair guy. He came down and said we can get a

[2:27:55] new copier that can do more. And by doing that it reduces our copy cost. So

[2:28:00] the extra what $600 for the new copier basically gets absorbed because we have

[2:28:04] a reduced cost in our copy price. So it equals out in the end and we get a

[2:28:08] better copier. Okay.

[2:28:13] » All right. Roll call. >> President Jamal?

[2:28:15] » Yes. >> Councilman Henry?

[2:28:16] » Yes. >> Councilman Pingorn?

[2:28:18] » Yes. >> Councilman Harris?

[2:28:20] » Yes. >> Councilman?

[2:28:21] » Yes. >> Councilman Snider?

[2:28:23] » Yes.

[2:28:32] » I promise this is the last one. We normally don't have this many. an

[2:28:35] ordinance or ordinance 312607, an ordinance authorizing the mayor

[2:28:40] and/or fiscal officer to enter into a contract with the Baldwin Group for

[2:28:43] Microsoft Word template module on the village Pleasville mayor's court

[2:28:46] software and the declaration of emergency. Do I hear a motion to suspend

[2:28:50] the rules and make this a declaration of an emergency?

[2:28:54] » I'll make a motion to suspend the rules and declare a state of emergency.

[2:28:58] » I'll second it. >> Cory made the motion. Second by

[2:29:01] Michelle. Discussion. >> President. Yes.

[2:29:05] » Councilman Counciloman Henry. Excuse me. >> Yes.

[2:29:08] » Council Pangorn. >> Yes.

[2:29:09] » Council Harrier. >> Yes.

[2:29:11] » Council Mike. >> Yes.

[2:29:12] » Councilman Snder. >> Yes.

[2:29:14] » All right. Do I hear a motion to pass ordinance 3122607?

[2:29:20] » I'll make a motion. >> Michelle made the motion. Do I hear a

[2:29:22] second? >> I'll second it.

[2:29:24] » Second by Katie. Discussion. >> Roll call.

[2:29:28] » President Jamal? >> Yes.

[2:29:29] » Councilman Henry? >> Yes.

[2:29:31] » Councilman? >> Yes.

[2:29:33] » Councilman Harrier? Yes, Councilman. >> Yes,

[2:29:36] » Councilman Snider. >> Yes.

[2:29:40] » All right, the last thing on our agenda tonight for new business. Um, so we've

[2:29:45] been getting complaints about uh pet waste at our parks and different spots

[2:29:49] throughout the village, including our properties. Um, so Sam and Penny or Sam

[2:29:55] reached out to City of Logan and got a copy of their ordinance for everyone to

[2:29:58] review. Um, just want to know people's thoughts. Um, we did send it to the laws

[2:30:05] committee and they did say just go ahead and forward it up. Um, what are people's

[2:30:10] thoughts in this before we have an ordinance drafted?

[2:30:12] » Well, we discussed all four having a lovely ordinance for cleaning

[2:30:19] up after pets. We were a little concerned about the penalty section. Um,

[2:30:23] we felt that jail time was excessive for dog waste. Um, and so we were going to

[2:30:32] come back around to Garver to see if that is like standard practice. And now

[2:30:38] that we have an attorney, follow up with him as well to see if that the penalty

[2:30:43] tier is pretty standard. We It just seems a little excessive that there

[2:30:49] might be an option of jail time for dog poop.

[2:30:53] » And I would ask, could we do community service in jail time?

[2:30:57] » Is that part of what what is already there or is like one of the steps.

[2:31:02] » So, it is a it is a according to Logan's um basically it's a it's a hierarchy.

[2:31:09] You know, your first time it's a it's a M4 uh which you know those by state law

[2:31:14] there's certain things that apply for that up to $250 fine and up to three

[2:31:18] months in jail, whatever it is off top my head. Um and then it progresses if

[2:31:22] you get caught again within a certain period of time and up. Um, I know in the

[2:31:26] past we've been told we could start with anything misdemeanor up and just or keep

[2:31:30] it as a misdemeanor. Um, but if you say it is an M4, it's an M4.

[2:31:36] » And so that's why we wanted to come back to Chief Garber to see if that was

[2:31:40] » I would just say that I I kind of tend to agree. I think on the first

[2:31:45] misdemeanor, >> okay,

[2:31:47] » which would be just a fine >> and then you you know if you have the

[2:31:52] same person doing the same problem, you complaints and all you all you can ever

[2:31:56] do is write them a $25 fine plus court cost or whatever, then they may not

[2:32:02] care. And so that's probably why they employed the normal progressive, you

[2:32:06] know, where second offense is now a third degree, you know, so on so

[2:32:12] forth. So then we can a compel them to come to court

[2:32:16] and then that is when you can throw on your community like your community

[2:32:20] service or the fine or they want to come in here

[2:32:26] and you know they don't care about this law.

[2:32:33] I don't have a preference of what to do. Um,

[2:32:37] I think a progressive penalty section is probably normal for most things, but

[2:32:48] » this would come through mayor's court. >> Use type of misdemeanor would be able

[2:32:54] for mayor's court. Yes. Um, so John, you got one on the shelf that you want to

[2:32:58] dust off. >> Yeah. First of all, I bet it's I'll bet

[2:33:02] it's covered in the American ordinances that we disconnected.

[2:33:06] » Okay. Now, I looked in there and I did not find something for pet waste, but

[2:33:09] again, yes,

[2:33:14] » because we usually go to that first to find it. And then if not, then we

[2:33:19] » we don't like enacting ordinances. Just enact ordinances.

[2:33:22] » I agree with the chief. Start with a minor misdemeanor. because someone's are

[2:33:28] you really going to hang a criminal offense on them for the very

[2:33:33] » you know misdemeanor you know it doesn't show up on the record anywhere

[2:33:38] » it gets be a problem

[2:33:42] you get the second time >> all right so do you have one on the

[2:33:46] shelf you can dust off and write for us >> this one's fine

[2:33:50] » this one's fine >> we just change

[2:33:53] misdemeanor of the fourth degree to minor mis Would

[2:33:56] you like to go ahead and draft an ordinance based on this?

[2:33:59] » Be happy to. >> All right.

[2:34:04] » Any other comments or questions on that? That's what's going to be so nice about

[2:34:08] this. It's just like John. Hey,

[2:34:13] » most

[2:34:20] » maybe even a second. >> Yeah. You know,

[2:34:22] » it's for those people that are doing it on purpose.

[2:34:25] » Yeah, they're doing it on purpose and they're about

[2:34:33] to talk about it. >> All right. Um, that's all we have under

[2:34:38] new business. Anyone else have new business before we move on?

[2:34:42] » All right. So, we'll go ahead and go around the table. Scott, you have

[2:34:44] anything? >> Um, your upcoming note, thanking the

[2:34:48] maintenance guys. Just wanted to reiterate that too. Family member of

[2:34:52] mine had a water break after hours and uh Anthony came up from he was at

[2:34:58] Menards in Langster and he dropped came and helped and shut the water off so we

[2:35:02] could get someone in there to fix it and the guys came and turned it back on and

[2:35:07] looked at it and told my uh my dad it looked okay. So I appreciate the help on

[2:35:11] that. >> I never relay this stuff to them because

[2:35:13] I just tell them they do a terrible job and they work harder. So

[2:35:17] » you're doing good. Yes. All right, Katie, you have anything?

[2:35:23] » Nope. I believe I'm good. >> Courtney?

[2:35:26] » Yes. If Corey doesn't mind me tacking on to the recreations committee, uh we were

[2:35:31] also discussing establishing a one-year plan.

[2:35:34] » Okay. >> As part of the responsibilities of our

[2:35:37] committee. And so we were going to actually send out a survey

[2:35:42] » to the community to see what they would like to see. Um, it's going to be a

[2:35:46] short survey, no more than five questions. And we're going to work with

[2:35:49] Sam >> on just doing a QR code, send it to

[2:35:52] Survey Monkey, let it all populate from there.

[2:35:55] » All right. >> Thanks for saying that. I had forgotten.

[2:35:58] » Yep. That's where all these projects start is with ideas and we need them. I

[2:36:02] mean, we only think of what we know about. So,

[2:36:05] » all right, Michelle. >> So, I would just say that the American

[2:36:08] Legion is going to start having their every Sunday down at the marathon.

[2:36:13] » Yeah. So, and that is kind of and supporting you know a function. So

[2:36:19] » pass the word and then I would like to ask if maybe Sam can put it on the

[2:36:22] website or something >> so that other other people

[2:36:28] » see it gets advertised and gets traction.

[2:36:31] » Yep. Yeah. That's how they pay their bills every year.

[2:36:34] » Yeah. >> And when they don't have money to cover

[2:36:37] it, Pete pays the bills. So,

[2:36:42] » so Monday is I believe our Lions meeting. So, John, you can join the

[2:36:48] Lions. >> And if you do, then I get credit for it

[2:36:52] and I get a pin anyway >> because you're the first to say it.

[2:36:56] » Correct. >> If he joins the Lions, he's going to

[2:37:00] want to join the Masons. And if he's a veteran,

[2:37:02] » Here's the thing. >> I can't solistic. I my own parents

[2:37:05] wouldn't join for me, but they joined for Michael's part or for Jason's

[2:37:08] partner. I'm just saying. >> I I would also notate that I was told by

[2:37:12] the Millerport Lions at our last meeting that the event that you guys had that

[2:37:16] they attended was very nice. >> It was well it was wellreceived and well

[2:37:20] talked about. >> I I'm going to get the dishwashing award

[2:37:23] again this year. >> You are.

[2:37:24] » Trust and believe I can do some dishes. >> Bob, you have anything? Oh, sorry. I'm

[2:37:28] sorry. Don't mean to rush you. And we also have Bunny with the Breakfast with

[2:37:31] the Bunny on the 20th. >> Oh yeah,

[2:37:33] » don't forget. >> Tell all your people.

[2:37:35] » Yeah. No Easter egg hunt. >> No Easter egg hunt.

[2:37:39] » Um we moved to the Breakfast with the Bunny Lions Los

[2:37:44] Masons at American. >> Are you still doing raffle baskets like

[2:37:47] last year? >> Yes, that's the plan.

[2:37:49] » Oh, because we had our meeting last night. We didn't discuss that. Oh,

[2:37:52] » it didn't didn't come to my attention. So

[2:37:54] » do an email. >> Yes, we have a bunny. We have a bunny.

[2:37:59] » So >> John, you didn't know about it. It was

[2:38:02] you.

[2:38:06] » Welcome to the club. >> All right. Is that it?

[2:38:09] » That's it. >> All right, Paul.

[2:38:11] » All right, Penny. >> Um, I don't have anything.

[2:38:14] » Okay. Same. >> Okay. Um, yes. In your packet there is a

[2:38:19] thank you for um our maintenance team uh for a water break that happened and they

[2:38:25] went out. Um, it's nice to get these. We got those last month because of the snow

[2:38:29] warriors that they um all the work they did. So, it's it's nice, you know, to

[2:38:34] have members of the public come out and and thank um employees. So, that's

[2:38:39] great. Um yeah, Corey mentioned Easter is coming up, so the village and we've

[2:38:45] had this forever. Um you know, an event with a bunny. It's been changed over to

[2:38:48] breakfast with a bunny. So, we have opportunities to feed in this town. Um,

[2:38:53] again, that's all sponsored through the Lions Club, Masonic Temple, Losoma, and

[2:38:58] the American Legion. Uh, we also have, just as a reminder, it is lent fish fry

[2:39:03] at the Thirstston Methodist Church, uh, tomorrow. $12,

[2:39:07] » $13. >> Bob's cooking.

[2:39:09] » Bob's cooking. >> And it's good.

[2:39:12] » Um, >> I think that's all the public things

[2:39:14] that we have coming up until our next meeting. So, um,

[2:39:20] » I got two things. Okay.

[2:39:23] I forgot

[2:39:30] class for mental health and it helps the

[2:39:34] police offic.

[2:39:44] And then along with that, the board of developmental disabilities came out with

[2:39:49] like a blue envelope program to hand out to people on traffic stop. It's kind of

[2:39:54] like a notice packet to let the police officer know

[2:39:58] this person has, you know, whatever the case is. So they understand why the

[2:40:03] person may be reacting that way. And I think that's really important because it

[2:40:07] is becoming more and more we run into it a lot.

[2:40:13] And sometimes police mishandle that they misunderstand

[2:40:17] » how the person's reacting because they're under stress because of the

[2:40:20] situation and that I think the officer changed the tune completely and you know

[2:40:26] instead of they're not resisting they just don't understand they're scared you

[2:40:29] know whatever so >> those two things

[2:40:34] that's training for him offic

[2:40:40] » awesome say training is good So, John, you have anything before we close?

[2:40:45] » All right. Again, thank you. We appreciate it. Thank you for showing up.

[2:40:47] We look forward to working with you. >> Yep.

[2:40:51] » All right. Do I hear a motion? >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn.

[2:40:54] » Cory made the motion. Do I hear a second?

[2:40:56] » I'll second. >> Second by Michelle. All in favor?

[2:41:00] » Same sign. >> Good night, everyone.

[2:41:05] » That's marathon.

[2:41:09] Oh yeah.

[2:41:16] » His name is D.

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