[2:46] Let me all right, let me try one more time.

[2:53] OK. I think I have you coming in loud and clear. Thank you, Sir.

[10:52] Alrighty guys, it is March 24th, 60. What do we got Tony? Is it 601?

[10:58] All right, I am Mayor Zach Stratton and we are going to start with the Vineyard City Council meeting.

[11:03] I am going to turn the time over to Councilman Mccumber here to give us our opening prayer and Pledge of Allegiance, and we will

[11:06] jump into it.

[11:15] Our dear heavenly Father.

[11:17] We thank me so much for this beautiful day.

[11:20] We're able to come together as a community.

[11:23] And engage in our civic process.

[11:26] We ask.

[11:28] Very plainly.

[11:31] For your hand.

[11:32] In guiding us and helping us make wise decisions and to serve this community.

[11:37] I want to express my gratitude.

[11:39] For the position that you've.

[11:41] And trusted us in.

[11:43] To allow us to.

[11:44] Come before our community in an effort.

[11:46] To serve them.

[11:49] And I would very much appreciate.

[11:51] Your guidance and support.

[11:53] As we continue to.

[11:54] Strive.

[11:55] In that endeavor.

[11:56] Can I say this in the name of Jesus Christ? In it Amen.

[12:06] Would you please recite with me?

[12:08] I pledge allegiance to the flag.

[12:10] Of the United States of America.

[12:12] And to the Republic for which it stands.

[12:15] One nation under God.

[12:23] OK. Thank you so much. And Parker, you get a.

[12:29] Way to go buddy.

[12:30] Where that American flag?

[12:32] Loud and proud.

[12:33] OK, we're going to jump into the Mayors report 4.1.

[12:38] A little bit of an explanation kind of what's been happening for the business community. This is me.

[12:42] And the residents of Vineyard as well.

[12:44] In December of last year, there was a fee added called a Toughie Transportation Utility Fee.

[12:49] And the intent of that was to.

[12:53] Help in some Rd. projects and stuff like that. Ongoing expense that the city had.

[12:58] The net effect of that, though, is that the tough fee.

[13:01] Really. In a? In a?

[13:05] Non capitalistic way maybe that's a good way to say it really hammered our business community. Some of some of our local

[13:09] businesses on the North End of town the industrials were charging.

[13:13] 5000 Seven, $1000 a month.

[13:16] Which was more than their.

[13:17] Their monthly rent.

[13:18] So we've been, I've been working hard with Evan, with.

[13:21] Trying to see what we could do to limit that fee and change it up.

[13:24] What we've settled on is I feel pretty comfortable in.

[13:27] In eliminating that fee.

[13:30] And the thought is we're going to go through the budget process maybe a year or two and look at look at what we.

[13:35] If we can find that revenue in other places.

[13:39] But.

[13:40] The intent was I was going to sign an executive order, but since it's a utility fee and a transportation fee, we're gonna have to

[13:43] bring that to council next week to lower that or even eliminate it. So we're gonna get Jesse to work on the language for that, and

[13:47] we're gonna have another.

[13:52] City Council meeting.

[13:53] Next week to get that taken care of.

[13:55] But.

[13:55] This is uh uh.

[13:56] It's been a.

[13:59] You know this this fee again.

[14:02] We just want businesses out there in the community to recognize, hey vineyards, a place we want you come.

[14:06] We want to grow with us and we want to make sure that there's good alignment.

[14:09] Between uh.

[14:11] Our tax code and the fee structure and.

[14:14] In a way that will invite the the business committee to invest their dollars here and come and grow with us. So.

[14:19] That's that's my report right there on that.

[14:22] I've got 5.1. We have a presentation.

[14:26] We have a.

[14:27] Zach Beatty, Our.

[14:28] Recreation Manager is good.

[14:30] Is and I assume that the.

[14:33] You are PA folks are here here. Awesome.

[14:35] I'll have you guys come up and kind of explain this is what it is and.

[14:38] How awesome Zach is and how lucky we are to have him.

[14:41] We love our rec program here in Vineyard and does a great job so.

[14:44] Thank you.

[14:45] Let's go there, yeah.

[14:49] Thank you, Mayor and Council. My name is Kevin Schmidt. I'm the executive director for the Okra Recreation Parks District.

[14:55] Up in the Salt Lake.

[14:56] County area.

[14:57] And I'm the president of Europe A.

[15:00] I'm Michael Christensen. I'm the Assistant Executive Director for URPA.

[15:05] Thank you for giving us.

[15:06] Some time today.

[15:08] URPA, which stands for Utah Recreation and Parks Association, represents about 2000.

[15:14] Park and Rec.

[15:15] Professionals in the state of Utah.

[15:18] And those are the people that are consistently working behind the scenes.

[15:22] To make.

[15:23] Your community better.

[15:27] I I want you to picture Vineyard.

[15:30] Without.

[15:31] Parks and Recreation.

[15:32] Without any parts, without playgrounds, with children playing on them.

[15:36] Without sports programs.

[15:38] And uh.

[15:38] I I think we can all agree that that is not the kind of community that.

[15:43] We would want to live in.

[15:47] Your your park and rec team and and.

[15:50] Others throughout the state.

[15:51] Work tirelessly to.

[15:53] Make sure that these.

[15:55] Programs and events happen.

[15:59] They do a lot more than just manage facilities and organized sports programs.

[16:04] Their work helps to shape.

[16:07] The kind of community that people want to actually live in.

[16:10] So thank you to.

[16:13] You mayor and council for supporting.

[16:15] The Park and Rec.

[16:16] Department in your city.

[16:19] I'm going to turn the time over to Mikel to present.

[16:23] Awesome. We are so excited to be here tonight and thanks so much for having us. We actually get to recognize two of your

[16:28] outstanding Parks and Recreation professionals. The first one is actually Ben King.

[16:33] Ben has been part of our URPA Leadership Academy for the last 12 months. So thank you for your support and him doing that.

[16:38] Basically what that entailed was him going to other agencies across the state for the last 12 months and learning all he could

[16:43] from that. So he has graduated from that program. And so we just want to recognize that he has done that. So have him come up in

[16:49] just a second. And then the second profession I already mentioned, Zach.

[16:54] Every year we solicit nominations for awards for different categories throughout the state. One of those categories is Outstanding

[17:00] Professional. We recognize that in a variety of capacities, recreation, Aquatics, different things like that. This year we had

[17:06] over 100 applicants for those various awards and Zach was selected for our Young Professional of the Year. So if you know Zach,

[17:11] you know he has a huge passion for working in Parks and Recreation.

[17:17] Does really well at giving back to his community and since he started here in Vineyard a short time ago.

[17:22] It's our understanding that your guys's programs and races and different community events have grown exponentially, and so we're

[17:26] just super thrilled for him and the work he's doing.

[17:31] He's very involved with URPA. He is.

[17:33] In our central region, he is actually the elect to be the president of that region. So we just want to thank you guys for

[17:38] supporting him and supporting Parks and Recreation throughout Utah, being a great example of what communities can build.

[17:44] And yeah, just thanks Vineyard, and thanks to Zach and Ben.

[17:48] Awesome, I'll have them come up and grab this.

[17:51] Awesome.

[17:53] Let's give a round of applause. Let it go, guys.

[17:58] Do you want to should we jump in a picture with them? Let's get a picture with these guys. This is actually this is way cool more

[18:00] so.

[18:03] Yes.

[18:07] Brian come up. Yeah, Brian's got to be in the engineer. Brian's really cool too.

[18:10] Yeah.

[18:14] Next year.

[18:17] Hello. There we go. OK, ready.

[18:30] OK, ready 12.

[18:32] Thanks. Perfect.

[18:51] All righty.

[18:53] Let's jump now to I had public comments here, but.

[18:56] Let me.

[18:57] Raise your hand up here to talk about you have a public comment.

[19:01] OK, let's do this.

[19:02] I assume without parking I'm going to take a wild guess.

[19:06] OK. Let's go through a couple other things. We'll kind of get closer to that so we can have the.

[19:10] The public comment and all that more.

[19:12] In a little more.

[19:14] Coherent manner.

[19:15] OK, so I'm going to turn the time we're gonna we need to move into a public hearing now.

[19:18] To go over the Forest development agreement and the IHC development agreement.

[19:21] Can I get a motion for that?

[19:24] So moved I second.

[19:29] All in favor.

[19:31] Aye. Motion passes.

[19:33] We're going to turn the time over to cash.

[19:35] The lead out in this session, go ahead. Thank you for your time.

[19:39] Once this opens up here I have the Forge and Intermountain Healthcare. I have a single presentation here because these.

[19:46] Development agreements are.

[19:47] Pretty tied together.

[19:49] And so we do have Ryan with representing Intermountain Health and then Jason representing 6th Rich Partners, formerly Dakota

[19:52] Pacific.

[19:56] On this these development agreements so.

[19:59] Quick background here on the Forge, this is in 2024. There was a development agreement signed by the City Council.

[20:06] With six rich partners.

[20:08] To allow them to build but they.

[20:11] There were some requirements about like a regionally significant entertainment anchor.

[20:16] Anyways, it's a 45 acre development.

[20:19] That includes in around.

[20:20] Healthcare property.

[20:21] They currently have 1100 residential units permitted. This development agreement does not change that number, does not increase

[20:24] it.

[20:27] And it does require this this DA required that this regionally significant entertainment use.

[20:33] Was part of the first phase.

[20:35] And so we've been working. Here's a map to kind of show you outlined in red is, is the proposed 6 rich partners the 4th project

[20:41] And then in blue would be Intermountain Health if, if these development agreements go through currently.

[20:48] And around only.

[20:49] Owns the southern parcel.

[20:51] So.

[20:55] Let me go to.

[20:56] Here's the request that that they're looking for here, and this is specifically for the Forge.

[21:01] They've been having a difficult time landing a regionally significant entertainment anchor.

[21:06] And So what they're.

[21:07] Trying to propose here is to.

[21:09] Bring in their first phase 40,000 square feet of.

[21:13] Commercial.

[21:14] Which would then allow them to.

[21:16] Move on to build the residential.

[21:18] And it would also relocate the first phase and the the regionally significant anchor if I go back to this map here.

[21:24] It would move the commercial block to the the northwest corner of Vineyard Connector and Mill Rd.

[21:30] So that's where they build this commercial space, and then they'd move the entertainment anchor.

[21:34] Further South on Mill Rd.

[21:36] Whereas currently it requires the entertainment to be on the corner in commercial.

[21:40] Little bit further shell.

[21:45] Last week we did have a Planning Commission. They they did recommend approval of this development agreement.

[21:50] The other thing to note is the Planning Commission would be come the.

[21:54] Approval body for the entertainment anchor the the IT has a very specific language in our code on what?

[22:00] This anchor must be and it's up to the Planning Commission. Previously, they did approve a climbing gym.

[22:05] To be the thinker. There there were.

[22:06] Installed in those negotiations. So that's not coming about anymore.

[22:10] But it would continue to let the Planning Commission be that approval body.

[22:13] And then the last thing is roadway and utilities as they were built, I believe in 2018.

[22:19] Our city engineering department just wants to make sure that this roadway and the utilities going to the site are not going to be.

[22:25] Heavily impacted and they'll.

[22:26] You know, be able to be used in these city roads like 650 N that borders the yard and the forge.

[22:33] Is built back to its its current state before construction.

[22:37] And then we we did update the development agreement with our.

[22:41] New language for impact fees to make sure that impact fees are calculated at the time of building permit.

[22:46] If we want, we could take a break there and.

[22:49] If there's any questions about the forge specifically, we can go over those or I can fly through and let's do that. Council. Any

[22:53] questions on the Forge development agreement?

[22:57] Did they have any concerns about the entertainment acre being in the phase one? I know.

[23:03] Previously they were having some trouble.

[23:04] Like getting the development off the ground because of that. Yeah. So this would move the entertainment anchor to not be the phase

[23:09] one anymore. This would be the the new phase one is 40,000 square feet of retail commercial space on that corner and the anytime

[23:13] they could bring that that entertainment anchor.

[23:18] You know, one comes from the day we want to build that. They could go for it, but.

[23:22] Essentially they they're saying they need to get this commercial and residential going before they can get.

[23:27] Movement on this.

[23:29] Entertainment if no.

[23:31] If no.

[23:33] And then it comes forward before that.

[23:35] You know, before they build all those things, what what phases that came in.

[23:38] The entertainment anchor the entertainment it would just be.

[23:41] After phase one, anything after phase one, I see. So there's no guarantee we'll ever get it then?

[23:46] So the the development agreement still outlines a block and acreage that is required for the.

[23:51] I can go back to this map here.

[23:53] Is there anything they cannot get pool pool permits for or anything be?

[23:57] Unless that.

[23:58] No, so they could pull everything out first.

[24:01] That's the last thing I felt her hands and gosh, we're sorry. Couldn't do it.

[24:04] Yeah, essentially they, I mean they, they would not, they have to reserve that.

[24:07] Many acres of land for the entertainment use so they could.

[24:10] Nothing gets built there.

[24:12] But potentially. But in return we are getting 40,000 square feet of.

[24:15] The the retail commercial space.

[24:17] So that's essentially the trade off. They're saying here's right now, we can't land this this.

[24:21] Anchor so if we want to get moving with development.

[24:24] We need to bring in something else 1st and that's where we've been talking and landed on 40,000 square feet of.

[24:30] Of commercial space.

[24:31] Also, when we swap the land from the.

[24:34] Entertainment maker from the north to the South? Sure.

[24:37] Do we have the same amount of land in both?

[24:39] Both no SO.

[24:41] The the original.

[24:42] Development agreement language.

[24:43] Just outlined I think it said four point something 4.7 acres which is that entire block and and no entertainment anchor would

[24:47] actually take up that entire space.

[24:52] And so it was just.

[24:53] The the new language says 3 point something acres.

[24:57] Just to essentially outline the southern block.

[25:00] But something like the we had the the Momentum climbing gym, they were approved.

[25:03] They were nowhere near the you know, 3.

[25:06] Or 4 acre project, but we did determine that they were regionally significant enough.

[25:11] And it wasn't necessarily the size, it's more of the impact and are people coming from outside of Vineyard to Vineyard to spend

[25:14] their money here?

[25:17] That's essentially what we're looking at with this anchor.

[25:22] I'm very much interested in having this this land developed and then getting the.

[25:26] I didn't. I really. I really AM.

[25:27] But I'm also concerned that.

[25:29] We've had many promises.

[25:31] For this piece of land.

[25:32] Over the last couple of decades.

[25:34] And nothing is there yet.

[25:36] And we've always, there's always a reason and we come across this.

[25:39] This problem or that problem?

[25:41] And so I'm.

[25:43] I'm just not comfortable.

[25:45] Hold, you know, leaving that to the very end because that's something they can put off to the end. That's worked well.

[25:51] It's not financially peaceful at the.

[25:53] They can do like they've done for the last 10 years and not build anything.

[25:56] It might be worth having Jason speak to their their efforts in in trying to attract regionally significant anchor. They they

[26:01] definitely have have been trying over the last few years.

[26:06] And I don't know.

[26:07] If you want to hear from him.

[26:08] Yeah. Jason, do you want to kind of review that? Please come on up.

[26:12] If you set your name in the mic, that'd be awesome.

[26:15] Jason Head with six Bridge partners and.

[26:17] Thank you for having me here today. Thanks for coming.

[26:22] This might be obvious, but.

[26:23] Land we can't build on doesn't do us any good for developers and we want to build.

[26:27] All of this land.

[26:29] We intend to find.

[26:31] Regionally significant anchor.

[26:33] For this site and and for the community.

[26:36] It's just a much, much bigger hurdle than it is for us to.

[26:41] Find tenants for 40,000 square feet of Upscale.

[26:44] Retail that will have.

[26:47] Boutique restaurants and soft goods and things that really.

[26:50] Energized.

[26:52] This corner, especially this.

[26:54] This corner is going to be a big demand for those types of users.

[26:58] So we absolutely continue to work on.

[27:01] Originally significant anchor.

[27:02] Some of the challenges we face are.

[27:05] You know many.

[27:06] Frankly, rely on.

[27:08] Alcohol sales and that's been a tough hurdle to educate.

[27:12] Some groups on.

[27:14] We did have a climbing gym. Who?

[27:15] Frankly, took it to their board and then backed out at the last minute and that was just.

[27:19] Mostly, I think a timing we intend to.

[27:23] Reignite those.

[27:24] Conversations with that user.

[27:27] But we're still very bullish.

[27:29] That user, it's just.

[27:32] It it's holding up development of.

[27:34] All of that acreage.

[27:36] So how many pages are there in the new agreement?

[27:39] Here's the phase one or the phase two lasting phase three. How many phases?

[27:44] Well, I think there's just.

[27:46] Yeah. We, we initially just have phase one. This is saying.

[27:49] Before you can build anything else, you need to build phase one.

[27:52] Outside of that.

[27:53] Once you, you know.

[27:54] Built that phase you can build.

[27:56] Whatever else.

[27:59] So the trigger is we we have to have at least 20,000 square feet of that retail under construction before we can pull a permit on

[28:03] any residential units.

[28:09] I think my issue is is that.

[28:11] Originally we did a trade off of density. Like lots of density in exchange. I mean, it was a whole package, right?

[28:18] So not guaranteeing the entertainment you start getting the density.

[28:22] So what would you be willing to trade? Because we're giving up a really big.

[28:26] This is going to have a great regional attraction there.

[28:29] Are you willing to give up some density for that? Because you're getting all of the good but?

[28:34] What are we getting in exchange?

[28:36] You're getting tax revenue sooner.

[28:38] Right. And I get that, but like the the anger from all the citizens was the amount of density that you were given with us.

[28:46] I I will speak up on that just briefly.

[28:48] The the original or the development agreement was signed in in 2024. There there was no trade off then of the density. No, I know

[28:52] I'm saying originally.

[28:56] Right, that's what I'm saying is the regional entertainment anchor that became a novel a requirement as of 2024 with no increased

[29:00] identity.

[29:04] I'm going back years, right. So about accountability going, but that's what is that was a new idea was to bring this regional

[29:10] incident significant but there were other trade-offs in that whole package as I look back through the contracts.

[29:16] That's what I'm saying is like, this is a big carry on top.

[29:18] And it's like.

[29:19] I get that we want businesses and it is. You're right, you don't want it to stop and we need to lower taxes. But.

[29:25] I see the citizens coming and saying, OK, we're not going to get that, but the.

[29:29] Density stays the same.

[29:30] Point of clarification.

[29:31] From what I understand about this proposal, this this change of the development agreement, it's not is it getting rid of the

[29:36] entertainment district completely? No, it you know, it keeps it, it's just a it's a phasing, OK, Yeah, it's just a phasing issue

[29:40] where the guarantee that it takes away the yes, the guarantee. So it's like can we put in some sort of guarantee that if it

[29:45] doesn't come.

[29:50] The last phase you can't build the residential until X, so at least it's.

[29:55] On the sour end side of things that people don't like, it goes OK.

[30:00] Before you build this residential I would at least like that type of trade off.

[30:04] Something that pushes it to.

[30:06] To maintain the fighting because of it all.

[30:08] Fills out. You just have one remnant law, and I know what that means. It means coming back to the Council and changing it to

[30:11] something else.

[30:16] You know, you have to understand, we really do.

[30:19] We want to understand, we want it to be built redo.

[30:22] We have been burned a lot in the past.

[30:24] And we might not be burned again.

[30:26] Sure, I mean the the density overall.

[30:30] Hasn't changed, it's just the sequencing.

[30:33] I mean, in fact, we're also making other.

[30:36] Concessions here. I mean, there's the language in the original.

[30:39] DA can be interpreted that.

[30:42] Impact fees are based on when they.

[30:44] Development agreement was originally executed not based on.

[30:47] Then in place.

[30:50] Impacts when we were.

[30:51] When we pull permits.

[30:53] And that has been cleaned up in this agreement as well. So now.

[30:56] Exposed to a higher level of impact. Positive, yeah.

[30:59] Yeah. Any other questions?

[31:02] On this one.

[31:03] OK, should we jump into?

[31:07] Yeah. Thank you very much.

[31:10] Thank you.

[31:10] OK. So Intermountain Health, they're looking to consolidate the existing.

[31:14] Lot that they have with the corner of Geneva and Vineyard Connector. So going back to here.

[31:18] And we can see that they are.

[31:20] Wanting those two lots if you want, and in doing so.

[31:23] It will remove the the eastern connection of Cauldron Rd. So that's one thing in the development agreement they don't want to have

[31:26] to have their their project be.

[31:30] Bisected by that road.

[31:34] It does require an iconic architectural feature at the corner of.

[31:37] Of Vineyard Connector in Geneva we as staff, we felt that this is a very important gateway for the community and.

[31:42] And the design standards of the forge were very strict and would have required a very iconic building to be built there, but with

[31:47] Intermountain Health wanting to do a clinic or a hospital.

[31:52] That kind of changes that. And so we have language here that says that they have to.

[31:56] Develop that corner in an iconic way that will come through approval at site.

[32:00] Find application time.

[32:02] It changes to allow medical use throughout the site.

[32:06] As of right now, I don't believe it's a permitted use.

[32:10] It includes modifications to the FMU. So that's the Forge mixed-use design guidelines. The forge is its own special.

[32:17] Zoning district that has very strict design guidelines on.

[32:20] Have a building fronts the road on where the parking is located.

[32:24] But after discussions with Intermountain Health.

[32:27] We've determined that this is a hospital and this is one of those things where function should be over form and we want to make

[32:30] sure that they can operate.

[32:34] Smoothly as a hospital and people are able to get the care that they need.

[32:37] When they need it.

[32:39] And so it has those modifications and then as well as the roadway utilities and.

[32:43] Impact fee changes to the development agreement.

[32:47] So that is.

[32:48] It from the.

[32:49] The mountain Health.

[32:50] Awesome, any questions from council on IHC?

[32:54] DA amendments.

[32:56] Are we collecting all impact fees live? They're not something that was tied in years ago.

[33:02] So that's the updated language. We've worked with Jesse Riddle on on updating the language that says at the time of building

[33:05] permit.

[33:08] Is when we will calculate impact fees.

[33:11] So if I see losing.

[33:14] That means that there will be like there'll be a non profit that we won't ever get.

[33:18] Sales tax rate, Income tax.

[33:21] Property tax them, is that right?

[33:22] I might yield to Jason or to Ryan to answer that.

[33:27] Now we won't get in.

[33:31] Hey, Sir.

[33:32] Ryan Wallace, representing Intermittent.

[33:34] Intermountain Healthcare. I'm not a tax attorney so I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe that's.

[33:40] That would be correct. It's at least as it relates to real property taxes, Um.

[33:45] If they have a.

[33:48] Businesses and clinics that operate out of the medical office buildings those.

[33:52] Activities may be taxed.

[33:54] Once again, I'm not entirely sure how that.

[33:56] That works.

[33:57] But yeah, it wouldn't be taxed at the same level.

[34:00] As if it were retail or other commercial.

[34:05] I thank you.

[34:06] Thank you. I mean no disrespect to your project.

[34:10] With this question but.

[34:13] Because other products come and say they're going to be built like.

[34:16] Are you building like you're ready to go build now?

[34:19] Or is it are you? Is this a phase thing like in two or three years?

[34:22] Yeah, and it.

[34:23] It'll be phased. Umm.

[34:25] They have the current property which would limit it just to clinic space.

[34:30] They're expanding it so that we have the flexibility to do medical office clinics based and potentially later a hospital.

[34:37] So this.

[34:38] Because we currently own that southern property.

[34:41] Don't own the northern property and that's really since we haven't acquired the property and we're still.

[34:46] Determining feasibility. There's still work that would need to be done to design and then build.

[34:52] But I do know that that's part of their long term plan for the property, hence them wanting to get additional property so that

[34:57] they could do not just the the potential medical office building or clinic, but.

[35:02] Potentially more.

[35:03] OK. This isn't a question. Thanks. I don't have a question.

[35:07] If it ends up not happening, what does it do? Revert back?

[35:11] If they don't end up building, if yeah they the cell doesn't end up going through after the study or whatnot, does it? Does the

[35:15] zoning stay the same?

[35:19] I mean it would be their their ownership and the development would be signed and reported, right? But what if what if they don't

[35:22] buy? Is this pendant on sell?

[35:27] I am not sure on that.

[35:29] Yeah, we can. We can make it that way if the.

[35:32] That's what the city wants is.

[35:34] But I can tell you this was kind of the last bit and then our money is hard and then we'll be purchasing within weeks after it,

[35:37] so.

[35:40] Yeah, I I just It's not you again. I have a room full of Washtenaw and people have broken promises.

[35:47] I feel like you always have to ask like.

[35:50] You know, from developers or whatnot. So.

[35:54] I think it needs to be dependent on that. Like that it would revert back like pending on the cell.

[35:58] Right.

[35:59] We could work on language to add that as a condition of approval.

[36:02] I mean, I'm not saying it wouldn't, but just.

[36:04] So that the code goes.

[36:06] Yeah, I am.

[36:08] The way I do like your comment about.

[36:11] Nonprofit.

[36:12] Because our RDA is.

[36:15] It's not being sold like it was, right?

[36:18] From 25 years ago, it's not producing the tax revenue.

[36:21] And it's not successful as what it was, right? We've already given a bunch of it to the university. It will be nonprofit.

[36:28] And you know, and so forth and so on, and you get the.

[36:31] At some point it does have to.

[36:33] In the role it was designed to, which is to help us.

[36:36] Have a sales tax base that we can.

[36:38] That he can thrive on.

[36:40] We appreciate very much if you'd like to go there and we'd like to have you there.

[36:44] We just need to make sure that we can structure it so that it works for us as well.

[36:50] Awesome. Any other questions, Comments from council?

[36:55] OK, seeing none, I will entertain a motion.

[37:02] It was a public hearing. I moved to public hearing.

[37:05] Do we need to close the pull up hearing first? Do we open it already?

[37:09] You open the public hearing, but there's been no comment yet from the public.

[37:12] OK, Yeah.

[37:15] Does anyone want to speak to this development agreement?

[37:17] Yeah, I moved to close.

[37:22] I thought we had to close it.

[37:27] Go ahead.

[37:29] It's OK, I'll deal with him later.

[37:31] Thank you, Kim Cornelius Villas.

[37:34] This has been a perpetual project. We've been in town almost five years now and.

[37:39] For the better part of those five years, all we've heard is the board is going to be the forge is going to be developed, going to

[37:42] be developed.

[37:45] Major portion of that was parking and I can tell by those that are in attendance tonight, the parking is a big deal in Vineyard.

[37:52] Can we get some kind of really quick synopsis of what this whole project including IC and?

[37:58] And the developer of the forge.

[38:00] Because they were talking about a parking garage. That sounded pretty good.

[38:03] Helped mitigate some things we'd just like to know going in.

[38:06] As they need that changed.

[38:08] Could you give us a summary of it?

[38:10] Awesome. Good question.

[38:11] Another public comments.

[38:13] OK. Who would you be able to answer that?

[38:16] Cash or one of the.

[38:18] I mean, this development agreement makes no changes, no increase or decrease to their parking requirements. It would take me a

[38:22] minute to pull up the actual parking code. I imagine with Intermountain Health they're actually going to have a surplus of

[38:27] parking. Of what?

[38:31] The forge would have built.

[38:32] That's one of the design guidelines that they're asking to be changed, just not be helped to the.

[38:37] The lower count that the forge would.

[38:39] For Intermountain.

[38:40] It's my understanding that these are all rentals too, right? So I believe they can build. I want to say it's 1075.

[38:46] 1075 units.

[38:48] As rentals and if they want to go to the 1100 they could do 25.

[38:52] 4 shell units.

[38:54] OK.

[38:58] Yeah, please come on up.

[39:01] Jason had 6 bridge partners.

[39:04] With the multi family 1 and Buzzy.

[39:06] Get built. We will build.

[39:07] Parking structures with that building permit that.

[39:10] Accommodate adequate parking for those users and then same with the retail I mean we'll we'll.

[39:14] Provide enough.

[39:15] Parking per code and.

[39:17] Maybe then some depending upon what the use ends up being.

[39:21] OK. And real quick about that parking.

[39:24] Last time we, last time we spoke about this in the meeting, you, you were saying that.

[39:29] Representative, listen you, I'm not sure what.

[39:31] OK, was saying that they would, the parking garage would be there, it would be controlled parking.

[39:36] Every control gate and only a residence be able to park in the garage.

[39:40] So forth.

[39:41] That's correct. And so roughly how many?

[39:44] You and the Do you remember how many spaces per?

[39:46] Unit you were thinking?

[39:47] I don't know off the top of my head.

[39:49] OK, the code is 1.5 stalls per residential dwelling unit.

[39:59] For every two for every two units you get 3 salts.

[40:02] Yeah, yeah. It's just part of our calculation. So basically.

[40:06] You know, one follow you gave us one follow you to fight for the second one.

[40:10] This one amounts to it.

[40:11] Yeah.

[40:12] Public knowledge that's already grandfathered and there's nothing we can do about that. That was the previous council from five

[40:15] years ago.

[40:19] If we could find it, we would just say, you know.

[40:23] But legally, we if.

[40:24] It's agreed upon already in the contract.

[40:28] OK. OK. Any other questions?

[40:31] OK. Oh.

[40:35] Come on down.

[40:40] My name is Tyler Harrelton.

[40:42] I don't know if this is a zoning or development agreement issue.

[40:46] But I would love to see.

[40:48] With this development that.

[40:49] You don't have driveways going straight on the 800 N.

[40:53] I think that would create a lot of conflict. I don't know if that's already part of it.

[40:58] As an exit as all.

[41:00] Yeah, it dumped into. Oh yeah.

[41:02] Yeah, just so.

[41:04] OK, awesome.

[41:06] Any other comments?

[41:08] OK, alrighty.

[41:11] I will entertain an emotion.

[41:13] Now.

[41:16] I'll do it. I move to close the public hearing.

[41:20] Awesome. Umm.

[41:21] At exactly 638.

[41:24] Perfect.

[41:25] Do I have a second?

[41:27] 2nd but I think it's 632.

[41:30] Oh, sorry.

[41:32] Yeah.

[41:34] Thank you for that clarification. All righty, all in favor.

[41:37] Aye. Motion passes at 632. OK.

[41:42] All right, let's umm.

[41:45] I'll do it. We'll do a motion now on the.

[41:48] Development agreements.

[41:52] Can I get a motion on those?

[41:53] I think we should separate them out, so I moved to approve and amend the development agreement of.

[42:00] The Internet. Eminem Mountain Health at 7.2 as.

[42:04] Presented.

[42:06] OK, can I get a second for that?

[42:08] 2nd.

[42:09] All in favor.

[42:10] Aye, aye.

[42:11] OK, motion passes, so IHC is through.

[42:14] And now for 7.1.

[42:21] I move to approve.

[42:23] The forged development agreement as presented.

[42:27] Try to 2nd on that.

[42:29] I'll second.

[42:30] All in favor.

[42:32] Aye.

[42:33] Any opposed?

[42:35] All right, Jacob Wood comes down to you, brother. Where you at?

[42:40] No, he came back, just he came back just to the boat.

[42:44] All right. Would it be helpful?

[42:47] Yes.

[42:49] I know we're kind of in the middle of actually when we.

[42:52] Take a box first.

[42:54] Aye.

[42:57] Motion.

[42:58] Passes OK.

[43:01] Awesome. Umm.

[43:01] All righty, let's jump to the consent items.

[43:08] Is there anything on these consent items that?

[43:11] We need to pull off and put in the business items.

[43:14] Mayor Jacob Wood.

[43:18] Sure. Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to 8 points.

[43:22] Takes a place to under business item as 10.4.

[43:25] OK, so Jacob's word.

[43:29] Has a motion to 8.6 down to.

[43:37] Take it off.

[43:38] OK. Anything else?

[43:43] Public safety impact.

[43:44] Resolutions are made.

[43:47] That one's a good one.

[43:49] Yeah, I think I'm good with the.

[43:52] I'm Yep, I'm good with all of them too.

[43:54] Alrighty, can I get a motion?

[43:56] I move that we approve consent items 8.

[43:58] Got one through 8.5.

[44:01] Has listed.

[44:02] OK, do I have a second?

[44:03] Second, OK.

[44:05] Remembering that some of those are resolutions the Bible.

[44:08] OK, so let's do.

[44:13] Let's just do 8.1 so which ones are not the resolution so we can do 8.1 and 8.2.

[44:19] They put one they want to.

[44:20] Yeah, there's a resolution. So let's let's.

[44:22] Let's do April. Let's hold on 8.18.2.

[44:25] All in favor.

[44:26] Aye aye. Any opposed?

[44:28] OK. All right.

[44:30] Let's do 8.3 by roll call. Start with Ezra.

[44:33] Aye, David, aye.

[44:35] Jacob Wood.

[44:37] Aye, Jake Holdaway, Aye.

[44:39] Parker, hi.

[44:41] Resolution passes.

[44:43] OK, let's jump onto 8.4 by roll call. Let's start here. My say what it is just so that they know sure.

[44:50] So 8.3 the one we just passed was the municipal Wastewater Planning program survey that we presented last week.

[44:57] 8.4 is the.

[44:59] Redevelopment Agency audit agreement to extend the RDA or the audit.

[45:03] Of the idea.

[45:04] Which was discussed last week as well.

[45:07] Already so 8.3 passes some to 8.4. Roll call Parker.

[45:11] Hi, Jake. Hi.

[45:13] Jacob Wood.

[45:16] David Lurie, Aye.

[45:18] And Ezra?

[45:19] Aye, OK.

[45:20] That resolution.

[45:21] Passes 8 point.

[45:24] 4 now.

[45:29] We're struggling with number 8.5 safety impact.

[45:35] The last couple meetings about implementing a public safety impact fee so that we could collect funds for our law enforcement and

[45:39] fire department with new development.

[45:45] OK, roll call. We'll start with Ezra at this time.

[45:48] Aye, David, aye.

[45:49] Jake Judge.

[45:51] Jacob Wood.

[45:52] Jake Holdaway, hi.

[45:54] And Parker, hi.

[45:56] All right, passes.

[45:57] OK, let's get to the.

[46:00] We're going to jump down to the Planning Commission.

[46:03] Let's do the main event.

[46:04] Can we do the main event? Are we ready to go? OK, we will move the Planning Commission.

[46:09] To the end.

[46:10] And let's jump right into.

[46:13] Public comments.

[46:16] And I'm sure everyone wants to talk about our travel policy.

[46:21] We're looking at.

[46:23] .6 is that.

[46:24] To be discussed, yes.

[46:26] We're going to do that down.

[46:28] The lower comments, yeah.

[46:31] So let's jump to public comments.

[46:34] I have.

[46:36] Do we have more people? I have the public comments right here.

[46:40] The list.

[46:42] Let's do this. I will just write down the list and if you.

[46:44] If you wanted to give a public comment and you're not on the list, this is something we should start doing this year.

[46:49] Did everyone who wants to?

[46:51] Publicly comment. I guess that's how you say it.

[46:53] Did you sign the list?

[46:56] I'll just go through it and if you're you want to say something you're not here, just raise your hand.

[47:00] OK, so.

[47:02] Tim Blackburn.

[47:02] Fire away.

[47:05] Yes, let's do what's What's a good time limit? How many you have on the?

[47:11] 12345.

[47:13] 15-2 minutes? What are two minutes?

[47:18] Well, and if you're going to allow public comment during the.

[47:22] Tim Blackburn, Sleepy Ridge.

[47:23] If you're going to allow public comment at all during the time we talk about Arch, I can reserve my time until then.

[47:31] Let's hear it now.

[47:32] Here now OK.

[47:34] I just want to say thank you to the members of the City Council.

[47:39] For what we have felt to be an increase.

[47:42] Of support and understanding.

[47:44] About the importance of trying to.

[47:47] Preserve and protect the heritage of Vineyard.

[47:51] I have felt immensely.

[47:55] Pleased with what I have seen.

[47:58] In terms of.

[48:00] A refreshing.

[48:02] Of support.

[48:03] From the council and the mayor.

[48:06] Also from the city staff.

[48:08] And we look forward to their report here shortly.

[48:12] About possible funding.

[48:13] For Heritage.

[48:16] Foundation in the future over this next year.

[48:20] But.

[48:21] It's been a it's been a struggle for us to try to be visible.

[48:25] And to try to make an impact in our community.

[48:28] The Heritage Foundation.

[48:30] And I just wanted to say thank you to all of you who asked questions.

[48:35] And who gives a?

[48:36] Support and who say.

[48:38] No, let's move forward with these kinds of ideas. And I've seen that from.

[48:42] The staff most recently as well. So thank you.

[48:44] Thank you, did I use my 2 minutes?

[48:47] You we are good way to go, Tim.

[48:52] Transferable nonsense. Verbal 2 minutes.

[48:56] OK, All right. Emily Larson with.

[48:59] Bridgeport, come on down.

[49:03] Thank you for coming. Appreciate it. Can you say north-south central Bridgeport? I don't even know what I am on 410 E, You're not

[49:07] Christopher Columbus.

[49:13] I know, I don't know. I know my address mountainside.

[49:16] Don't start my 2 minutes yet. I need all my 2 minutes. Just kidding. Saint George St.

[49:21] So my name is Emily Larson. I'm from Bridgeport. You've seen me before. Parking.

[49:26] I had two other friends here from my neighborhood that they had to leave because of babysitters so.

[49:31] There's them and then I'm going to actually.

[49:33] For part of my time read this from.

[49:35] Another neighbor that couldn't be here tonight so I'm reading her e-mail.

[49:39] Good evening Mayor Stratton and council members. My name is Brittany Hanson and I am part of the Bridgeport neighborhood. Thank

[49:43] you for your time and your continued efforts to listen to.

[49:47] And represent our community. I'm speaking in support of the proposed parking permit plan for my neighborhood, not as a completely

[49:51] comprehensive solution.

[49:55] But as an important and necessary step.

[49:57] Towards safer, more functional streets.

[49:59] Right now, many of our roads are simply not safe.

[50:02] Cars are parked bumper to bumper, making it difficult to see children, dangerous to drive through and in some cases so congested

[50:07] that emergency vehicles would struggle to get access.

[50:11] That alone should give us pause.

[50:14] There are also everyday impacts that add up quickly. Garbage and recycling being skipped because trucks can't reach the cans.

[50:20] And residents being blocked in or delayed just trying to leave their own driveways. We understand that this connects to a broader

[50:24] over occupancy challenges.

[50:28] But this proposal is a practical step that directly involves involves safely and and.

[50:35] In their liable livability right now.

[50:39] At the February 7th council meeting, Councilman Holdaway stated that home evictions quote could be seen as kindness. End Quote.

[50:44] I'd suggest that in some circumstances, towing, when used thoughtfully and sparingly, could reflect the same principle when it

[50:49] helps resource safety, access and order.

[50:55] And order for the broader community. That said, no one is asking for unchecked or aggressive enforcement. The goal is balanced.

[51:01] This plan does that by protecting homeowners and lawful renters while still creating structure and accountability. At the end of

[51:07] the day, this is about safety, accessibility and preserving a sense of community.

[51:12] I appreciate the consideration you're giving this issue and encourage you to move this plan forward. Thank you.

[51:18] I agree with everything that she said and I want to keep our community great.

[51:23] Look at that. Thank you. Let's go.

[51:27] You know.

[51:29] The funny thing is where to go when you stood up. I started it and I totally forgot that Councilman Holder went.

[51:35] Well.

[51:38] You're awesome. Love it. OK, we.

[51:41] Donna Blake with Bridgeport.

[51:43] Come on down.

[51:44] North southeast of US.

[51:47] West, Hi, I am Dana Blake. Oh, sorry, Dana.

[51:52] All good. I'm in the northeast corner of Bridgeport.

[51:58] So we.

[52:00] We have a big issue with over occupancy in our neighborhood as well as Lechevenon there's.

[52:06] So many cars parked on the road that it is becoming unsafe. Our children cannot ride their bikes because they might not be able to

[52:10] cross the street safely.

[52:14] There's umm.

[52:17] It's really getting to the point where if you're driving at the same time as someone coming the opposite direction, there's

[52:20] nowhere for you to pull around each other.

[52:25] It's just becoming unsafe all around and unfortunately some of the.

[52:29] Owners of the.

[52:31] Over occupied units have even.

[52:34] Taking steps to try and bully families out.

[52:38] For requesting things like not parking in front of their driveways or respecting quiet hours.

[52:44] And we don't appreciate that as families.

[52:48] And.

[52:50] You know, we don't want to push.

[52:52] This issue onto the renters who came in good faith.

[52:55] But we really need to restore safety to our neighborhoods. It has become.

[52:59] A point, like they said, where it's affecting every aspect, it's affecting trash, it's affecting our children, it's affecting

[53:02] safety, it's affecting driving.

[53:08] And we so appreciate you, Mayor, and especially Ezra, who's worked a lot with our neighborhood.

[53:13] And all of you for being willing to hear us on this and I know that there.

[53:17] Are people who had to leave because.

[53:20] Because public comment was pushed back, but we appreciate you hearing us.

[53:24] I also wanted to bring forward one thing.

[53:27] That I've been seeing which is.

[53:30] Concerning to me, which is just a tendency to.

[53:33] Of a few of the council members.

[53:35] To.

[53:36] Speak in an inflammatory way on social media and.

[53:41] We as citizens.

[53:42] Would really appreciate a more unified approach of speaking respectfully to and about.

[53:48] Your fellow council members?

[53:50] And, umm.

[53:52] Yes, we would really appreciate.

[53:54] By hearing us on our issues and.

[53:57] Being respectful of each other even though you all have different.

[54:00] Agendas. Thank you.

[54:01] Thank you.

[54:02] Awesome. Can I?

[54:05] Can I ask a general question?

[54:07] As people come up.

[54:09] Sure.

[54:10] A couple weeks ago I mentioned in a council meeting I had drove through Bridgeport Lemonade and I had.

[54:14] Seen and documented a lot of the.

[54:17] Issues. I counted 5 stop signs that were parked.

[54:20] With cars parked right up to the line.

[54:23] Fire hydrants that were blocked. Red curbs with cars on them.

[54:26] I had reached out to Chief Deputy Holden.

[54:29] With our local Sheriff's Department.

[54:31] And he had.

[54:33] Recent essentially his patrol cars out there and he said that they had wrote 12 tickets I think.

[54:38] That day or that night?

[54:40] Have you? When you come up, would you just let me know? Have you seen any?

[54:44] Improvements with.

[54:45] That, uh.

[54:46] OK, OK.

[54:49] Alrighty, we've got.

[54:51] John Kidd.

[54:53] Do you want us all just raise our hands? We appreciate that, they're saying yeah.

[54:58] So I can go first too. I can read my.

[55:03] Yeah.

[55:08] My name is John Kidd and I live in the Maples.

[55:10] So parking.

[55:11] Is a tricky topic to address.

[55:13] We appreciate the freedom that we are blessed with, even down to the freedom of movement.

[55:17] That granted by our cars.

[55:19] And we would like to be able to park those cars where we wish particularly.

[55:22] In our own neighborhoods.

[55:24] But what happens when one individual's exercise of that?

[55:27] Freedom begins to impose a cost on others. A large number of vehicles that are parked on a street can impose direct and indirect

[55:31] costs for neighbors.

[55:36] I for one appreciate a scenario where these costs are internalized by those causing the imposition.

[55:41] Of these costs.

[55:42] If you are able to fit all of your vehicles in your driveway.

[55:44] That's fantastic.

[55:45] But when your plethora of vehicles make it so that I am unable to have guests park within 500 feet.

[55:51] Of my home when I am unable to back my moving truck into my own driveway when I moved in four years ago.

[55:58] Or when I worry about my children being hit due to a lack of visibility.

[56:02] Then you have imposed a cost on someone other.

[56:04] Than yourself.

[56:06] I've heard some say that we need to be good neighbors and I fully agree.

[56:09] But in some cases, individual efforts are not enough to resolve the issue.

[56:13] Being a good neighbor should not require accepting the ongoing negative impacts.

[56:18] Finally, I encourage the Council to consider this issue.

[56:21] Promptly. Any change in policy will likely take time to implement.

[56:24] Rather than simply shutting this down without full information, let's get this information out so that we can address the problems

[56:28] we see in a timely manner.

[56:33] The newest portion of the Maples has welcomed many new families and for those that are moving in now or maybe in the near future,

[56:37] I wish them to know the policy as soon as possible.

[56:41] Rather than finding out.

[56:43] And not wanting to live there in six months.

[56:46] Additionally, addressing this before the influx of college students that the salt the fall semester would bring would help prevent

[56:50] further strain on neighborhood parking.

[56:55] I want to be a good neighbor.

[56:56] And I feel part of that is helping my neighbors be comfortable with policies in their neighborhood.

[57:01] I appreciate the work that has been done with the parking permit policy and I would like to see this.

[57:06] Considered for the Naples area as well.

[57:08] Thank you.

[57:09] Thank you, John.

[57:11] And you're nailing it.

[57:13] OK, let me find out person.

[57:15] There's a support or against The Who lives in Maples besides John.

[57:21] Maples OK.

[57:23] And there was a lot of help with do we like John's idea? Do we support John?

[57:29] Way to go, John.

[57:30] Yeah, John, OK.

[57:32] All righty. So that wasn't.

[57:34] That was a good point too about you guys are getting a bunch of homes coming in.

[57:37] And we need to.

[57:38] Something to.

[57:39] With with all basin apartments.

[57:41] OK. All right.

[57:45] OK. All right. Next up, we've got Stephanie.

[57:49] So Stephanie had to leave, but she gave me her comment she was going to read.

[57:54] Round 2. Come on up, John.

[57:58] She maples again. She maples as well. I would I would talk in a higher voice, but that feels offensive.

[58:04] Are you in favor of or against the parking permit post?

[58:06] Are you in favor of the favor?

[58:09] So sorry.

[58:10] Good evening. My name is Stephanie.

[58:13] And I live in the Maples neighborhood.

[58:15] I'm here to ask the council to consider a parking pass program. As our neighborhood continues to grow and new homes are built, we

[58:19] are seeing more and more street parking, often with multiple adults living in one home, which leads to several cars parked along

[58:23] the road.

[58:28] While we understand that housing needs are changing, the amount of street parking is making our roads feel crowded and less safe.

[58:34] When cars line both sides of the streets, it becomes hard to see around corners.

[58:38] And that makes it dangerous for children who are walking.

[58:41] Riding bikes or using scooters?

[58:43] It also makes the neighborhood look overcrowded and less cared for.

[58:47] A parking pass program would help keep our streets safer and more orderly as the Naples continues to expand.

[58:52] Thank you for your time and consideration.

[58:54] Awesome. Thank you.

[58:56] All righty, we got Dave Height.

[59:05] All right. Thank you all.

[59:06] Appreciate it.

[59:07] Mayor, Council people.

[59:10] Feel kind of like this is a spelling bee here.

[59:13] Which is where you live here. Bad memories for me so.

[59:17] Days from the Naples from the Naples, Dave Height.

[59:21] I'm going to come at this just a tad different.

[59:24] But yeah, I'm here on behalf of many of our residents.

[59:27] Not all of them.

[59:28] But a lot of them.

[59:30] Especially as we're feeling the added pressure of the 75 plus units all with Adus.

[59:36] I want to go on record supporting the Parking Pass initiative because it makes our streets safer. Safety is the only reason that

[59:39] matters.

[59:43] And I'll leave it at that.

[59:45] I would like to veer a little and discuss more why it is important to implement now versus continuing to hash it out.

[59:52] Again.

[59:54] Respect what you guys do.

[59:55] Especially when you add emotions and human.

[59:58] Aspect to it.

[59:59] Super hard.

[1:00:00] That being said.

[1:00:02] I've been part of high level collegiate programs that have consistently completed for national championships as a player and as a

[1:00:06] coach for nearly 20 years.

[1:00:10] I share that because I know what it takes for coaches and teams to work together.

[1:00:14] And toward a common.

[1:00:15] Goal Two things I've learned that apply directly to tonight. First, what we accept is what we can't expect.

[1:00:22] We haven't enforced consistently for five years. If nothing changes, nothing changes.

[1:00:27] After a tough loss, the worst feeling was walking back into the same problems.

[1:00:31] The best feeling was getting back in the gym, putting the plan into action and seeing results.

[1:00:36] I'm ready for that.

[1:00:37] We're past the point of talking. Let's implement.

[1:00:39] Then refined.

[1:00:41] 2nd be proactive, not reactive.

[1:00:44] Some neighborhoods are already in the crisis mode but can become better.

[1:00:47] Others, like the Maple, still have a window.

[1:00:49] Proactive action saves money, saves time and spares real heartache.

[1:00:53] And heartache that come.

[1:00:55] That can't come in many forms. It brings me back to safety.

[1:00:58] Waiting always comes at a cost more in dollars and resources.

[1:01:02] And a community team trust.

[1:01:04] We love the city.

[1:01:05] Let's move forward.

[1:01:07] With action. Thank you.

[1:01:09] Thank you.

[1:01:10] David, can I ask, have you heard of Operation Neighborhood Shield?

[1:01:14] No. OK. Thank you.

[1:01:17] Awesome.

[1:01:18] All righty.

[1:01:19] From Bridgeport.

[1:01:22] OK.

[1:01:23] Sure.

[1:01:26] Now I feel bad I moved the public comments later.

[1:01:29] Bridgeport I actually live across the street from Allie and she is the one who brought this all attention to my.

[1:01:35] My I'm Aubrey.

[1:01:39] Just really quickly we've been.

[1:01:41] Bridgeport since 2019. Homes across the street from us weren't even built when we moved in.

[1:01:48] And since then, our kids have grown. We have two grown children. They have.

[1:01:51] Their own cars on my son has two cars.

[1:01:54] We have put an extra.

[1:01:55] You know, cement.

[1:01:57] Aunt by our driveway.

[1:01:59] So we have 5 cars at our home.

[1:02:01] But we use our driveway.

[1:02:03] And we do over spill onto the street one to.

[1:02:05] To cars depending on if we have visitors at our house.

[1:02:09] However.

[1:02:10] Of the 10.

[1:02:12] Homes that are 9 surrounding my home, five of those.

[1:02:17] Our rentals non.

[1:02:19] Owner occupied multiple.

[1:02:21] People. Umm.

[1:02:22] So, you know, anywhere between 4:00 to 8:00, people renting the home.

[1:02:27] We literally cannot get into our driveway most of the times.

[1:02:31] We cannot have family members over.

[1:02:33] They have to park blocks away from us.

[1:02:36] Every time a home goes up for sale in Bridgeport.

[1:02:40] It ends up being a rental property.

[1:02:43] I don't remember the last home that went up for Selvik was sold to a single family.

[1:02:48] And I have been consistently reporting on the home just to the north of us for five years, not only to the city, but to the age.

[1:02:58] Away.

[1:02:58] Not anything has been done. I understand it was understaffed.

[1:03:03] I understand code enforcement was not happening as it should be.

[1:03:07] But at this point we are five years in. Last year we had a home or a car coming around a corner.

[1:03:12] The flipped upside down.

[1:03:14] Coming around a.

[1:03:16] Blind driveway in a single family neighborhood at 2:30 in the afternoon.

[1:03:20] I don't know the circumstances of that wreck.

[1:03:22] But the fact that it happened in Bridgeport is terrifying to me.

[1:03:26] Especially when children were on their way home from school.

[1:03:29] It.

[1:03:30] Consistently being taken care of.

[1:03:33] To answer your previous question, Operation Shield, whatever, I have seen the proposal for that.

[1:03:38] I think it's amazing.

[1:03:39] But I do think it's going to take a while to implement and get going and at this point.

[1:03:44] Bridgeport is past the point of waiting another.

[1:03:47] Six months to a year to have something done, it's already.

[1:03:51] Five years past having something done.

[1:03:54] That's all I have to.

[1:03:55] Thank you. Question for you, Can you what's your address?

[1:03:58] 207 N. 590 E.

[1:04:01] 590 E.

[1:04:03] Yeah, the House of the North of us has been rented up and downstairs for the past five years to individuals.

[1:04:10] I have reported it multiple times. They don't use their driveway.

[1:04:15] I at first was reaching out to the owner of that home because we knew him.

[1:04:19] We knew him for the six months that he was there before he moved out.

[1:04:23] And between the yard.

[1:04:25] Never being kept up, you know.

[1:04:28] The weeds multiple feet high and then every single person not even parking in the driveway or the garage.

[1:04:36] They're all over the neighborhood.

[1:04:38] Thank you.

[1:04:41] Bailey, Bailey, I'm feeling really bad, man.

[1:04:46] Movies back, Geez.

[1:04:47] OK, is it Hamlet?

[1:04:53] Oh hey, man.

[1:04:54] Hello. We're good friends now, right? Yeah, you're a buddy. Thanks so much for having.

[1:04:59] Taking the time to address this.

[1:05:02] Should we give him a pin? He's been here like.

[1:05:04] Give this man a pin. I'm trying to wrap the test for the 79.

[1:05:11] Ordeal 48 N Roberta.

[1:05:14] I'm getting used to saying the right thing for the beginning.

[1:05:17] Yeah, I just wanted to come up here and again represent Lechemenant. I know it's difficult for a lot of.

[1:05:23] Our neighbors to come up. I wanted to give some updates.

[1:05:27] As I've.

[1:05:28] Talk to them. I know that there's a lot of.

[1:05:30] People enthusiastic about it also some hesitation or some questions.

[1:05:34] Obviously, I want the Council members to keep that in mind.

[1:05:37] Because I want the whole neighborhood to be.

[1:05:39] Informed.

[1:05:41] Have been bought in with it.

[1:05:44] That being said also.

[1:05:45] Is balancing.

[1:05:46] Making something happen also.

[1:05:48] Balancing with the time to educate the neighborhood.

[1:05:51] So I encourage, obviously the Council members to keep that into consideration.

[1:05:55] But like has been said with Bridgeport, I know it's very.

[1:05:57] Frustrating because we've seen similar situations where we.

[1:06:00] See houses get sold and it goes right to renters.

[1:06:04] I dread anytime we see a family move out of our neighborhood because I know renters are going to come in.

[1:06:10] That being said, of course there's been times where families do report things and they get bullied by.

[1:06:15] Neighbors. We saw one at the Bates. They left because they're.

[1:06:18] Getting bullied by.

[1:06:20] The Bros at this house beside them, even to the point where he would turn on his diesel truck and let the fumes go into the house.

[1:06:26] She told him.

[1:06:28] To please not do that affected their air quality.

[1:06:31] You'd keep doing it.

[1:06:32] Now at the house we have a boat that sits there. This is on the corner of.

[1:06:38] Root of Math and Ruth Hugo.

[1:06:40] And it the tire is.

[1:06:42] Outside of the red.

[1:06:43] But the rest of the boat, which is about 25% of that unit.

[1:06:47] Sticks out into the red property.

[1:06:49] US and a couple of the neighbors have reported it two weeks ago.

[1:06:53] No action.

[1:06:54] Nothing done so.

[1:06:55] Please keep that in mind.

[1:06:57] One last thing.

[1:06:59] Yeah, keep in mind the comments that are said online.

[1:07:01] I know that we all may have different.

[1:07:03] Viewpoints but.

[1:07:05] Sometimes if we put neighbors against neighbors.

[1:07:07] We don't want to do that, so please keep that in mind as well as council members.

[1:07:11] Thank you.

[1:07:12] Thank you. Thank you.

[1:07:13] OK.

[1:07:15] Let's do Gary Moore.

[1:07:20] Signed in the wrong spot.

[1:07:22] All good, brother.

[1:07:24] OK. Anybody else?

[1:07:28] Yeah, come on down.

[1:07:30] Alternate.

[1:07:33] My name is Taylor Timothy Lechemena, Rue de Paris.

[1:07:36] I'm also known as the speed limit guy. Got the speed.

[1:07:39] Yay. But now obviously the problem we're dealing with is over occupancy. You've already heard all the spills.

[1:07:45] One of the things, though that has not been mentioned that's happening as well, is we have a lot of people.

[1:07:50] Parking from the apartments.

[1:07:52] And they're parking on the cheminah.

[1:07:53] Having their homie pick them up and then they're driving back to the apartments and then they're leaving.

[1:07:58] Yes.

[1:07:59] Yes.

[1:08:00] So that is something.

[1:08:01] Yes. Umm.

[1:08:02] All right, I was at the park the other day.

[1:08:05] Kid jumped the fence, ran across the train tracks, jumped the fence and.

[1:08:10] Went to his car. This part in the Seminole education.

[1:08:12] It is dedication.

[1:08:14] But that's just some other.

[1:08:15] Things they take into consideration with this, I support it.

[1:08:19] At the parking situation.

[1:08:21] Thank you.

[1:08:21] All right, got some more.

[1:08:24] Let's go. Yes, Sir, right here.

[1:08:27] Come on down and then.

[1:08:28] We'll go here, and then here, and then here.

[1:08:31] Kind of deal you here.

[1:08:32] Great. Thank you. Aye.

[1:08:34] Ryan Francis from the Garden No S.

[1:08:38] I spoke to you guys two weeks ago at the last meeting, but.

[1:08:41] I just wanted to give you kind of an update.

[1:08:43] I went around my neighborhood and handed out March Madness brackets, something I do because I love my community and we do it. It's

[1:08:46] a fun thing.

[1:08:49] But I also got signatures from about 45 families, but I don't.

[1:08:54] That really matters, but.

[1:08:55] I didn't want it to be my decision, but I just want to give you some of the feedback from people that I talked to and what the

[1:09:00] things that they said. But it really kind of echoes that everybody else said, just that there's so many.

[1:09:05] Homes that are being illegally rented.

[1:09:07] And.

[1:09:08] I really appreciate Jacob Wood.

[1:09:09] Bring you about all this light like our neighbors had the most infractions I think was 17 in the garden of.

[1:09:15] At least reported infractions.

[1:09:17] So if that makes us like Karen's or something, that's fine. But you know.

[1:09:21] But I.

[1:09:24] Sorry if your name Karen, I apologize them.

[1:09:26] But I.

[1:09:27] But I just wanted to say.

[1:09:29] You know, you know.

[1:09:30] I appreciate that as being brought up because we've been reporting things and having problems for, you know.

[1:09:35] Five years we lived here for 10.

[1:09:37] And literally we report things, they're breaking the rules. And what's been happening is they say, well, we're not actually

[1:09:41] breaking the rules. And then they come back to us and say, well, they said they're not doing it. So there's not really any teeth

[1:09:45] in it.

[1:09:49] So I appreciate what Ezra is doing to this.

[1:09:51] Parking program I think will give it some teeth.

[1:09:53] Some kind of something that will actually.

[1:09:55] Give us a tool to try to deter these people from breaking the rules on renting.

[1:10:01] But some of the other concerns people mentioned we.

[1:10:04] And there's a little mailbox area and it is packed.

[1:10:07] I know, Greg Mortenson said. He sent you a picture of it.

[1:10:11] It that people stated they don't think a fire truck could get through there, and I think they're right.

[1:10:17] We have a disabled girl in a neighborhood who frequently tries to get onto her school bus.

[1:10:20] And they can't get to the house because there's so much cars parked and the bus.

[1:10:24] Has to like wait and they have to go wheel her down.

[1:10:26] Things like this shouldn't happen.

[1:10:28] We just want a place to live and I appreciate all the work that you're doing to do that. So thank you very much and I.

[1:10:33] Hope that we.

[1:10:34] Go forward. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:10:36] Thanks, Ryan.

[1:10:40] Hi Mark Osteobolechemy not.

[1:10:42] Great looking flannel by the way.

[1:10:44] Yeah. Thank you.

[1:10:45] Appreciate that umm uh.

[1:10:47] So maybe a different approach. I agree with what everybody said in the air. It seems like there's a couple of concerns.

[1:10:53] About enforcing parking.

[1:10:55] And I wanted to just maybe reiterate.

[1:10:57] Maybe appease some of the doubts, one of which.

[1:11:01] I remember hearing somebody saying like.

[1:11:03] You know, if I forget my past.

[1:11:05] And I get some tow truck over here at night and I'm gone and my morning is is shot.

[1:11:10] You know, it seems like the solution to that is some kind of app.

[1:11:14] Base thing where you're.

[1:11:16] License plate is registered.

[1:11:18] And I which I think is a great idea. So just just to maybe appease some of the concerns about this and get more people on board

[1:11:21] with it.

[1:11:25] It seems like.

[1:11:27] There are some great ideas out there and I would just reiterate to make that super clear.

[1:11:32] Super simple.

[1:11:33] And enforce it.

[1:11:35] Absolutely Velvet Hammer style.

[1:11:37] Right. And then the other question I had on this whole thing is what does the?

[1:11:41] Fire department. Has the fire department said anything about this? Do they have any input?

[1:11:45] That's my question.

[1:11:47] Did he leave?

[1:11:50] Sanderson Lee. He was. He was here.

[1:11:54] Just barely left.

[1:11:56] But yes, he is concerned about.

[1:11:58] The.

[1:11:59] The ability to drive a fire truck into one of these neighborhoods.

[1:12:03] And garbage trucks.

[1:12:05] He said that on his way.

[1:12:07] Charlie, do you want to go again?

[1:12:08] Come on down, man.

[1:12:09] Who's next? Or yeah?

[1:12:11] Let's umm yes please.

[1:12:12] No.

[1:12:17] It's fine mixing it up a little bit.

[1:12:23] It's been so, it's been so positive, so here.

[1:12:29] My name is Christine Jeffs and I am here representing both the Library Board and the Friends of the Library Board.

[1:12:35] I received an e-mail yesterday with a.

[1:12:37] Recommendations for the grant distribution.

[1:12:40] And I noticed that the library had two numbers listed.

[1:12:43] And I'd like to encourage the Council to consider giving the library the higher of the two amounts.

[1:12:48] That were in that e-mail.

[1:12:49] We will put that money to such good use and we are a public service that services the entire community.

[1:12:55] Thank you.

[1:12:56] Over the Friends of the Library thing.

[1:12:58] No, I think it's.

[1:12:59] In fights with the Symphony.

[1:13:01] If I'm reading the e-mail correctly.

[1:13:03] Because after libraries had two amounts, then after Symphony it had two announcements and I believe the difference. Brian, will

[1:13:06] you clarify?

[1:13:10] I got this e-mail yesterday so I don't know if there have been updates.

[1:13:13] Yes, no, you're you're correct. So the Vineyard library.

[1:13:17] That's the one that would potentially have a decrease. Yeah, the.

[1:13:22] The friends didn't change, but it was the library that could potentially have a decrease.

[1:13:27] Happy to explain more of that.

[1:13:29] At that time, unless you want me to do it now. Sounds good, thanks. Thank you.

[1:13:35] Round 2.

[1:13:39] My name is Tyler Harrelson. I must have put my.

[1:13:41] Name on the wrong list.

[1:13:44] Briefly, I wasn't here to comment on the parking situation.

[1:13:48] It's not a solution that will help them now.

[1:13:50] But I do think this is the chickens coming home to roost when?

[1:13:54] This development doesn't have any mixed-use, so no one can walk.

[1:13:57] To work or anything useful other than other houses?

[1:14:00] Doesn't have any.

[1:14:01] Useful transit and has pretty minimal.

[1:14:04] Biking like the lady before had said they have.

[1:14:08] Five cars, I don't know how many in their household that I live in Utah City, I.

[1:14:12] Was helping some neighbors, moved in some college kids.

[1:14:16] I had five kids and I was like.

[1:14:18] Now I'm interested in this stuff. How many cars do you have? And they said 2.

[1:14:21] Three of them take.

[1:14:22] Front runner to school and.

[1:14:25] The other two have jobs.

[1:14:27] They need to take a car and and can't take the front runner so.

[1:14:30] I think that when you're.

[1:14:32] Considering new developments, having more.

[1:14:34] Abilities for transportation is a way to solve your parking problem by.

[1:14:38] Not making everybody **** car.

[1:14:40] I my own comments.

[1:14:44] I talked to you last time about 400 S in the safety proposal there.

[1:14:48] I started a petition that as of this morning has 115.

[1:14:52] Signatures. Umm.

[1:14:54] Basically I wanted to clarify you guys all got an e-mail from Jake summarizing some things that we had talked about some ideas

[1:14:57] for.

[1:15:02] Great suggestions for for a.

[1:15:04] Both the future development and the current that I wanted to clarify that my proposal, my petition is about.

[1:15:10] More about the process than.

[1:15:12] Necessarily any specific?

[1:15:14] Like configuration of of anything like that.

[1:15:18] Something that really frustrates me is.

[1:15:21] And this is how Orem tends to do things. They take a long time to do a bunch of studies and have a bunch of arguments about these

[1:15:24] different things.

[1:15:28] Our proposal is essentially that.

[1:15:30] Yeah, your staff come up with something that would be reasonable to.

[1:15:33] To set up some cones and bollards and that sort of thing right now, implement it and then see how it works.

[1:15:39] Right. Staff needs to review it so it's safe enough that it's not going to get anyone hurt in the interim, but.

[1:15:44] Having that iterative process, I think would be better than.

[1:15:47] Than having a long deliberation and then going.

[1:15:50] Sure. Thank you.

[1:15:51] Can you say it's?

[1:15:52] Really frustrating to get some say.

[1:15:54] We want you to change something, but we don't tell. Don't tell us how.

[1:15:57] Don't say what you want.

[1:15:59] And then we lay something out. It's a new. Those are new.

[1:16:02] Clients out there and you're upset with those, but you won't tell us what's wrong with.

[1:16:05] So, umm.

[1:16:06] People more specific about your complaint and I think you'll get a better.

[1:16:09] Response. Sure, and I'm happy to talk with.

[1:16:12] Talk with you if you'd like, and talk with anybody that.

[1:16:14] That would be useful.

[1:16:15] Thank you. Awesome. Thank you, Sir.

[1:16:17] OK. Anybody else?

[1:16:19] All right, back to the positive conversation.

[1:16:24] Hi, my name is Brandon Peterson. I also live in the gardens.

[1:16:27] Thank you for this opportunity to speak.

[1:16:29] I've been a Vineyard resident for 10 years. I'm actively involved in the community in multiple aspects.

[1:16:35] And I have many great neighbors that are.

[1:16:37] As well.

[1:16:38] We live right next to the princesses.

[1:16:41] But we are actively discussing leaving Vineyard.

[1:16:44] Right, we bought single family homes for a reason.

[1:16:48] And we pay property tax.

[1:16:49] Very high property tax.

[1:16:51] For single family homes.

[1:16:53] And right now the problem that I feel is precedent.

[1:16:56] Right.

[1:16:57] How?

[1:16:58] Really enforce.

[1:17:00] Was if we pick and choose what laws we're enforcing.

[1:17:03] It's creating tremendous safety dangers we've talked about.

[1:17:07] Started in multiple.

[1:17:08] Children in Vineyard have died.

[1:17:10] Being hit by cars.

[1:17:11] And many more that could happen.

[1:17:13] And so.

[1:17:14] As good families are fed up and leaving Vineyard.

[1:17:18] I would just extremely caution this group.

[1:17:20] Because it will happen more.

[1:17:22] And uh.

[1:17:23] We know that the pattern will be that they will be replaced with rentals.

[1:17:27] There's already.

[1:17:28] High amount of high occupancy.

[1:17:30] High occupancy housing options in Vineyard.

[1:17:34] And I think that that needs to be the encouraged drought for people that need that for economic reasons. But.

[1:17:39] It's quite unfair to the citizens to.

[1:17:43] Continue this pattern of what's been happening in spite of us reporting things and it's.

[1:17:48] It's extremely frustrating.

[1:17:50] And discouraging, honestly and so.

[1:17:54] I'm definitely not.

[1:17:54] My with 10 and I know my neighbors are as well and I hope that we can find a.

[1:17:58] Swift and.

[1:18:00] Realistic.

[1:18:01] Resolution to these problems because they're only going to get worse.

[1:18:04] So thank you.

[1:18:06] Thank you.

[1:18:10] OK, all righty.

[1:18:11] Anybody else?

[1:18:13] Taryn Cornelius. Come on down, Karen.

[1:18:21] Karen Cornelius.

[1:18:23] And first of all.

[1:18:25] I feel for everyone of you.

[1:18:26] That are struggling with parking.

[1:18:29] Especially those of you that have young children that.

[1:18:31] Are in danger.

[1:18:33] When they're trying to play.

[1:18:35] And they're called the sacker in their neighborhood.

[1:18:37] I on the other hand, I live in paradise in the villas.

[1:18:41] Because, uh.

[1:18:41] We don't have any parking problems.

[1:18:44] But one thing that I have not heard addressed.

[1:18:46] Is what is this over occupancy?

[1:18:49] Problem we're going to do to our property values.

[1:18:52] That is frightening.

[1:18:55] Our taxes are higher than anybody elses and I think we're going to watch our property taxes.

[1:19:00] Think so rather than a parking permit or anything that's going to put a Band-Aid on. If you want to do that for a minute, that's

[1:19:04] OK.

[1:19:08] But we have got to address.

[1:19:10] The root of the problem.

[1:19:11] And the root of the problem is over occupancy.

[1:19:15] And somehow we have got to put some legal minds together.

[1:19:19] And figure out what we can do.

[1:19:21] So that those of us that have invested.

[1:19:24] Here, to live here and to enjoy being here.

[1:19:27] Are not sold out.

[1:19:29] To all of these investors.

[1:19:31] Thanks. Awesome.

[1:19:35] Are you ******* yeah. ****** me off.

[1:19:38] Thank you, Karen.

[1:19:40] All right. Do we have one more? All right.

[1:19:43] Come on down.

[1:19:45] Yeah, and we got some more.

[1:19:46] All right. Just one more. OK.

[1:19:49] Nicole Haslington, LA Shamanite.

[1:19:51] I echo everything. I think everything's been said really well, but.

[1:19:55] Last night we were talking to some neighbors and there was a lot of discussion.

[1:19:59] Around just like a lot of.

[1:20:01] Extreme like sensationalized comments going around.

[1:20:06] From.

[1:20:08] Some neighbors who don't fully understand.

[1:20:10] The proposal and there's a group chat, there's a Facebook group and and those that have read on it after being informed about it

[1:20:15] all came back and said.

[1:20:20] This seems really fair and I agree.

[1:20:22] With what this is and so I just want to caution that I think the people.

[1:20:26] Those that that are hearing about it through the Grapevine like there was a comment about.

[1:20:31] Sneaky meetings going on with the neighborhood.

[1:20:35] And my husband is actively out. I almost can't go on a walk with him at night because there's no stopping him from.

[1:20:42] Talking to every neighbor, he sees a knocking on doors to notify them.

[1:20:46] About this and I I just want there to be those, you know, those extreme comments that are against it to not be taken.

[1:20:54] In a way that.

[1:20:54] It's just because they don't know. I feel like they're not informed about what is being discussed.

[1:21:00] And I think those.

[1:21:01] There's a reason that sensationalized news comments.

[1:21:05] Make the headlines right because it gets people to buy in because it's scary.

[1:21:09] And we do want our neighborhood to be a community like.

[1:21:12] Everything that's been said, we bought a single family home because we want to live there and we are surrounded by.

[1:21:18] Neighbors. One of our neighbors.

[1:21:22] Around the house, that is.

[1:21:24] Filled with.

[1:21:25] Renters so that it's basically like we're living next to a slumlord because there is no.

[1:21:30] Taking care of the property, the trash cans are never taken out, the yard isn't cared for and it's just it's it's a slumlord home

[1:21:35] and that's what not what we wanted to live in Vineyard for.

[1:21:41] Thank you. Awesome.

[1:21:44] Come on down.

[1:21:51] Hi, I'm twin at Norton, sorry I'm late to the party, just got back from the kids game.

[1:21:59] I was the first new build in Vineyard.

[1:22:02] I built in 2013.

[1:22:04] Literally the only house.

[1:22:05] Out here.

[1:22:07] I came over from the last neighborhood in Orem.

[1:22:09] For the truck.

[1:22:11] Or the trailer to get posted because I was excited for new development and growth and.

[1:22:16] I can confidently say in the last past five years, it's been chaos and.

[1:22:23] Just with.

[1:22:25] The housing crisis and.

[1:22:27] Where we're at economically like.

[1:22:30] The way that.

[1:22:33] I came to understand how Vineyard was designed was for single family homes.

[1:22:37] Which is great.

[1:22:38] But with.

[1:22:39] How things are changing. The design no longer.

[1:22:41] Holds its purpose.

[1:22:43] It's exceeded its.

[1:22:45] Broken. It doesn't serve for.

[1:22:48] A single rental community.

[1:22:51] And.

[1:22:52] I'm not out.

[1:22:54] I I will.

[1:22:55] Put my name out there. I started the Vineyard neighborhood group.

[1:22:58] And I haven't been great in keeping it.

[1:23:01] Posted or trying to keep people involved and so I I started.

[1:23:05] Just the other night like just trying to understand perspectives of.

[1:23:09] Different issues.

[1:23:10] People on Rue de Borda, their issues are heavier than mine on Rudy Math.

[1:23:14] But yes, we all have a traffic problem, and we all.

[1:23:17] Even the groups that I've been.

[1:23:18] Recently added to.

[1:23:20] We all.

[1:23:21] Have the same goal and the same concerns, but they're just.

[1:23:24] At different levels and so.

[1:23:29] My thoughts.

[1:23:31] About it is, it's not a one.

[1:23:34] Size fits all like.

[1:23:36] Enforce towing and some of the other.

[1:23:38] Neighborhoods is definitely needed. I've mowed lawns throughout Vineyard with my sons and I've made great relationships with.

[1:23:45] Even singles that.

[1:23:46] Have hired us and just getting to know them and where they're at in life.

[1:23:50] And I think.

[1:23:54] We suffer as a family community in connection with our neighbors. We don't.

[1:23:58] Go out of our way to get to know our neighbors. We definitely don't serve our neighbors.

[1:24:03] I was raised.

[1:24:04] Serve neighbors, elderlies, take out their trash, move their lawns. Like that's what I'm teaching my kids. And that was my hope

[1:24:08] when I moved into this neighborhood that we would have.

[1:24:13] Good. Solid.

[1:24:14] Values and what we want to teach.

[1:24:17] Our kids because we want a family community.

[1:24:20] But.

[1:24:22] As I've kind of.

[1:24:24] Talk to neighbors.

[1:24:26] In our neighborhood to understand again the frustration.

[1:24:29] Parking is an outcome.

[1:24:31] To overpopulation of renters, it's an outcome.

[1:24:34] If we can.

[1:24:35] Have the same.

[1:24:36] Or have different.

[1:24:39] Restrictions.

[1:24:40] As far as like.

[1:24:41] You want to rent your house? Great. Rent it to a family.

[1:24:45] And I want to know the homeowners and.

[1:24:47] Information like I would rather go.

[1:24:50] To the homeowner and address issues that I have as a neighbor then have to waste government time and money.

[1:24:55] Over just.

[1:24:57] Bickering.

[1:24:58] And so.

[1:25:01] I don't know what the answer is for that, but like short term.

[1:25:05] As simple as it sounds.

[1:25:08] A lot of people are visual.

[1:25:12] Um, if we even just paint.

[1:25:14] Parking stalls on the Stinking St.

[1:25:16] Two cars fit here.

[1:25:17] Sorry, squares don't fit in round holes. Like you don't fit. You don't fit. But it's also not our problem. We're not equipped to

[1:25:22] park a bus, an RV, a semi, whatever it is like.

[1:25:27] That was never the design, so there.

[1:25:31] I guess my hope for the Holy seminar.

[1:25:34] Neighborhood.

[1:25:36] Is 1 to fill in the gaps of lack of communication.

[1:25:40] There are so many apps and platforms where all of these conversations are happening, but there's no source of truth, so it's

[1:25:44] always he said, she said.

[1:25:48] There's there's gaps, it's broken. I get it.

[1:25:51] But it's not, I think.

[1:25:56] I don't. I know my intent is not to attack or pin any neighbor against another.

[1:26:03] I was raised that when you have issues, you come to the table with solutions.

[1:26:07] I've heard a lot of complaints for several years.

[1:26:10] But no one wants to come to the table with solutions or they expect.

[1:26:14] Somebody able to make the decision for the majority?

[1:26:18] I don't think it's all the questions you have. Neighborhoods have their own council where it's like.

[1:26:23] Now let's have some designated.

[1:26:26] Representation on each St.

[1:26:28] You guys talk about who is being rented. You guys approve if they're gonna.

[1:26:32] Be part of this neighborhood.

[1:26:35] And then bring it to vineyards attention like hey.

[1:26:37] This family wants the rent. Great.

[1:26:39] Do them registered like.

[1:26:41] I want to see more accountability for these homeowners that are outside of the state too.

[1:26:47] Yeah, one guy on my.

[1:26:50] He lives in California. He owns four different.

[1:26:53] Houses on our street like.

[1:26:55] But I don't have a contact for him.

[1:26:57] That's not fair. But anyway sorry I went overtime for sure but.

[1:27:01] I just.

[1:27:03] I support Vineyard and I want to help them grow but also.

[1:27:07] I feel like there needs to be a lot more conversation before anything's just.

[1:27:11] To Boston says it's done so.

[1:27:14] Thank you for that.

[1:27:15] Appreciate it. Thank you.

[1:27:16] OK, all righty, we are going to close public comments.

[1:27:21] Does everyone go? They wanted to go.

[1:27:23] One more.

[1:27:25] All right.

[1:27:30] Travis Thompson at the garden.

[1:27:32] No's.

[1:27:36] I just want to show my support for the the parking initiative. I further support just enforcing Adus. It's ridiculous that we

[1:27:39] don't I.

[1:27:44] Lived in basement apartments in Orem that the first thing my landlord told me was you have to park off the street.

[1:27:49] It is enforced. We care.

[1:27:51] And it was great.

[1:27:52] A wonderful experience. I think we can.

[1:27:54] Force our our.

[1:27:55] Owners to do the same thing and there's.

[1:27:57] Usually plenty of driveway space that goes unused. It's kind of insane.

[1:28:01] But uh.

[1:28:02] I just want to say that this is.

[1:28:03] The only thing that has ever gotten me to a City Council meeting.

[1:28:10] Just for the record, like not a political person registered independent.

[1:28:14] Like I vote and that's about it.

[1:28:17] This matters because I have kids.

[1:28:20] And because they run around all the time.

[1:28:23] And luckily I live in the center of the neighborhood.

[1:28:25] And I didn't have to deal with this until maybe.

[1:28:28] Two years ago.

[1:28:29] And now I can barely get my boat.

[1:28:31] In and out of my.

[1:28:33] RV pad that I paid.

[1:28:35] A stupid amount of money to put in.

[1:28:37] So that I didn't have to park it on the street.

[1:28:39] Because that's the responsibility.

[1:28:41] That I bear, and we should hold everyone accountable to that kind of stuff.

[1:28:44] And at that.

[1:28:45] Politics, yeah.

[1:28:48] Awesome. Thanks.

[1:28:49] OK, for.

[1:28:51] One more.

[1:28:55] Jeremy.

[1:28:56] Jeremy is Bridgeport. Yeah, I know.

[1:28:57] You guys like one more?

[1:29:00] I just wanted to share a quick story real quick.

[1:29:03] With the families regard.

[1:29:04] To them feeling safe.

[1:29:07] When I come through my neighborhood in Bridgeport, I make it a point.

[1:29:09] To drive.

[1:29:10] 1015 miles an hour, no faster.

[1:29:13] The other day I was coming around the corner and due to the amount of cars parked on the street, I almost took a child's life.

[1:29:20] And I can't even imagine what that would be like.

[1:29:24] Had the parent not been there.

[1:29:27] That child would have been dead.

[1:29:29] I came around the corner. There was absolutely no way in our.

[1:29:32] To see the child.

[1:29:34] They darted out from in between two cars.

[1:29:36] There was a mom there that thankfully grabbed the arm and the kid, otherwise I would have killed the child.

[1:29:41] So with that I would just really.

[1:29:45] I'd like to say just do what you can.

[1:29:49] I mean, I know.

[1:29:50] I know everybody has an opinion.

[1:29:52] Everybody's working hard on this situation. This was handed to you guys by another administration.

[1:29:58] Not a lot you can do about it.

[1:29:59] But in the meantime.

[1:30:01] I really don't wanna.

[1:30:02] Good. Yeah, so.

[1:30:05] If there's anything you can do, parking passes I think would be great right at first, but.

[1:30:10] You know, whatever you guys feel like. Thank you Sir. Thank you for sharing.

[1:30:13] That was awesome.

[1:30:15] I'll think of another one of those. Anyone else?

[1:30:18] Great. OK, we're going to close public comments.

[1:30:21] Good, good. OK, awesome.

[1:30:24] All righty, so let's.

[1:30:25] Talk Council, let's discuss the 8.6 this consent item. 8.6 Neighborhood parking permit program resolution.

[1:30:32] 26-19.

[1:30:38] Any comments from Council?

[1:30:42] Sure.

[1:30:44] Comments.

[1:30:47] I'm just.

[1:30:51] I'm very empathetic.

[1:30:53] Towards.

[1:30:54] The community, like I said, I.

[1:30:56] Gone and drove through those neighborhoods a couple times and I see the issues.

[1:30:59] And I think it's appalling and I would be scared if I lived in that community too.

[1:31:08] I appreciate the way that you guys.

[1:31:10] Have shown up.

[1:31:11] To come to the City Council meeting and.

[1:31:13] Speak very politely.

[1:31:15] And and honestly and with your your hearts.

[1:31:20] I was very frustrated.

[1:31:24] By some of the.

[1:31:25] Events that I have learned had transpired.

[1:31:28] Between our last.

[1:31:30] Discussion on this.

[1:31:32] And now?

[1:31:34] And to maybe not.

[1:31:38] Do a disservice. I I was very prepared with.

[1:31:43] Maybe borderline hostile statements?

[1:31:48] But I.

[1:31:49] I'm frustrated with how this is transpiring overall and I'm frustrated on behalf of the the residents and I'm frustrated.

[1:31:56] As a council member.

[1:31:58] In a previous City Council meeting, we gave direction when we addressed this last and it was done unanimously.

[1:32:04] By the way.

[1:32:06] That we needed to.

[1:32:08] Hold community meetings.

[1:32:09] And we needed to collect more information, we needed to talk to the residents and try to build as much consensus as possible.

[1:32:15] To make sure that what we were going to implement worked.

[1:32:19] And in the last 24 hours, I learned.

[1:32:21] That many residents were told not to meet with.

[1:32:24] Councilmember Wood or Councilmember Holdaway.

[1:32:26] Who were assigned that responsibility to facilitate those community meetings?

[1:32:30] And I think that's done a great disservice to you all.

[1:32:33] Because if those meetings had transpired and we would have collected that data and that information.

[1:32:38] We could have more informed.

[1:32:40] Decisions on how to actually implement this process.

[1:32:43] In an effective manner for the community at large.

[1:32:46] So I'm frustrated that that.

[1:32:48] Was essentially subverting the will of the Council and again it was a unanimous decision so that.

[1:32:53] That was frustrating to learn about.

[1:32:56] I think.

[1:32:58] That.

[1:32:59] One, we need to pull the levers that are going to be most immediate to help the residents.

[1:33:03] And to me, that most immediate lever we have available is enforcement.

[1:33:08] So I would like to with the.

[1:33:10] You know, approval and agreement of the Council.

[1:33:14] Let's encourage the Sheriff's Department to hit that area hard because if people get ticketed on that street every single day.

[1:33:22] If it.

[1:33:24] Every single day these people will start parking there because they'll start.

[1:33:29] Going to court.

[1:33:31] Hey, Alexa, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.

[1:33:34] Please come to the come to Mark.

[1:33:37] Name.

[1:33:38] Again, Aubrey Nanhart from Bridgeport, and I apologize. I I hear you.

[1:33:44] I understand.

[1:33:46] But you know what, there has been for a couple of months now a group of citizens really working together to try to see each

[1:33:51] other's point of view. I initially was against.

[1:33:56] Towing.

[1:33:57] Because I have to park on the street.

[1:34:00] From our own home.

[1:34:01] But I am.

[1:34:02] For it at this point and This is why.

[1:34:05] We've called the sheriff.

[1:34:06] They have increased their.

[1:34:08] Done their their patrols in our neighborhood in Bridgeport. I have had people park 3 feet into my driveway.

[1:34:17] They've been ticketed.

[1:34:18] Guess what?

[1:34:19] It happens again the next week.

[1:34:21] It happens over and over again. I I just.

[1:34:24] Feel like that?

[1:34:26] Avenue has been taken.

[1:34:28] By the residents because the city has not done anything over the past five years.

[1:34:34] That Ave. has been addressed multiple times.

[1:34:37] And there has been a lot of work.

[1:34:40] Put out with a lot of the residents who are honestly concerned about this. I'm not saying that.

[1:34:46] That neighborhood councils.

[1:34:48] Don't have value because they do, I think.

[1:34:52] Enforcing the code.

[1:34:54] That has been needed to be done forever and you guys are behind the game on that and that is not your fault.

[1:34:59] But I think that the conjunction of it needs to happen.

[1:35:02] It needs to happen in tandem.

[1:35:05] And you know what? If these renters are getting in trouble.

[1:35:08] They're going to put the force on their landlords because right now.

[1:35:12] The tenants in these neighborhoods have been trying to do it for years.

[1:35:16] And nothing has succeeded in that if these tenants are the ones getting towed and paying and having to go back to their landlords

[1:35:22] and saying you need to do something about this because this isn't right. And now the city is making me pay.

[1:35:29] Those landlords are going to fill a lot more pressure. Those landlords are not going to be able to keep trying to get people to

[1:35:34] sign leases as families to get past the law.

[1:35:38] So according to.

[1:35:39] Code enforcement needs to happen. Neighborhood captains is great, but there's a lot of people who got off of work and came here

[1:35:45] early, who have spent multiple emails, who have been involved in text talking to neighborhoods.

[1:35:51] All before this.

[1:35:54] Thank you. You guys know.

[1:35:56] So when we tried to schedule a meeting 3 weeks ago, do you guys know why it was denied?

[1:36:02] Well, there was, I know that there was a meeting that I got up.

[1:36:04] Like why didn't you guys take the meeting to this? We wouldn't be voting on the decision tonight. I'm just trying to figure out

[1:36:09] like why the delay in the meeting is actually what's preventing? Why didn't you guys just.

[1:36:14] Like we reached out and said, could we hold a meeting and you guys?

[1:36:18] The response was.

[1:36:20] We don't want to meet.

[1:36:21] So do we know why?

[1:36:23] I don't know of any about how many Me either.

[1:36:27] Gardens that we would have to have a king.

[1:36:30] So like you guys, you guys would be, you guys would be implementing the decision now and we're like.

[1:36:35] So when we reach out and we're like.

[1:36:37] When you said reach out, how did you reach out? Yeah, I didn't know. There's there's a little part with me, so I know that yes,

[1:36:41] we're looking to get some people together from.

[1:36:46] He said in the meeting in front of all So.

[1:36:50] What I spoke about with you guys is we had originally talked about doing a meeting before this.

[1:36:55] Nicole and I forgot that we had a major event coming up.

[1:36:58] With a lot.

[1:36:58] With just friends and everything.

[1:37:00] That kept us so I.

[1:37:02] Told you guys that.

[1:37:03] Primarily Jacob.

[1:37:04] That we had something come up, so we did not have the time to get that, but I did let the group know.

[1:37:09] So it wasn't that we didn't want to do. We could get this done.

[1:37:12] We could get this done in 48 hours.

[1:37:14] So let's just walk through the plan.

[1:37:16] We want you guys to make your own decision.

[1:37:19] We were. We asked you.

[1:37:21] To schedule a meeting of your neighborhood.

[1:37:23] That we could put a.

[1:37:24] Poster out and just say.

[1:37:26] We want everyone to come.

[1:37:27] In that meeting we would sit down and say what is the consensus around the group so that it would be your decision.

[1:37:34] Not ours.

[1:37:35] Leaving that meeting, we would then just say.

[1:37:37] We're going to go door to door and tell everyone that that's the consensus and we could do it 24 hours later after that.

[1:37:44] And nobody took us up on it.

[1:37:45] So we were like.

[1:37:47] And then and then in that meeting and let me walk you through what that meeting would be because there's a lot of decisions.

[1:37:52] OK, and let's take 10 minutes because you guys are really passionate.

[1:37:55] We can even have our first meeting right now.

[1:37:57] OK. The first, the first decision of that meeting is there's a lot of different types of parking.

[1:38:02] So we've already done this in two communities.

[1:38:05] There's the.

[1:38:06] Judge, jury and executioner.

[1:38:08] Meaning that.

[1:38:09] We lose our sovereignty as a city, which is it can be done.

[1:38:13] You guys want to do that?

[1:38:15] And there are locations I've done that.

[1:38:17] Both communities that did it.

[1:38:19] Walked away from it.

[1:38:21] But if it's your decision that wanted to do it.

[1:38:24] You could, but we just wanted to make sure that it was.

[1:38:26] Your decision to do it and to clarify what that you mean that that you allow the towing company and decide you would be told when

[1:38:32] does what that does is it changes it into a into kind of a.

[1:38:38] HOA type relationship meaning.

[1:38:41] Code enforcement.

[1:38:42] Does not do it.

[1:38:43] The sheriff does not do it.

[1:38:45] We are deputizing the tow truck company that's compensated by.

[1:38:48] 475 a toe.

[1:38:50] And they just go around and they are the judge.

[1:38:53] Meaning that our city, our Sarah.

[1:38:56] The and that's OK.

[1:38:59] And then #2.

[1:39:01] Do you want to do a digital path?

[1:39:02] Or a paper path. There's pros and cons to both and we and in that meeting we would sit you down through.

[1:39:08] OK. And then there's also, do you want to do?

[1:39:11] Or do you want to do 1?

[1:39:13] Then there's decisions on.

[1:39:14] You have families that have.

[1:39:16] For like, there's families of kids.

[1:39:18] How do we?

[1:39:20] How do we overcome that?

[1:39:21] And then there's problems of.

[1:39:24] How can we expand parking? So there's about.

[1:39:26] 12 different decisions that we have to sit down.

[1:39:29] Because you guys live amongst yourselves.

[1:39:31] It's your decision.

[1:39:33] And at the end of the meeting, we wanted to sit down and go.

[1:39:35] Who is the person that.

[1:39:37] That is in charge of.

[1:39:39] And communicating what that decision.

[1:39:41] Is and then that decision.

[1:39:44] Would be your neighborhoods. You wouldn't be coming here for a vote.

[1:39:48] And it would be and and.

[1:39:50] What is that leadership look like?

[1:39:52] Is that 2 people? Is it one person? Who's the block captain that's in charge of that?

[1:39:58] Because you guys are gonna have to.

[1:39:59] You guys gonna have to look each other in the eye.

[1:40:02] Because what happened on the two other communities, they did a digital parking pass like you guys were talking about.

[1:40:08] The HOA people were so ****** ***.

[1:40:11] That they did it. They even got told themselves.

[1:40:13] And then they came back and it was like, we're so.

[1:40:15] And it was like, great, but you own the decision. It's not us.

[1:40:18] And then?

[1:40:19] Even the neighborhood being very flexible saying that could happen.

[1:40:24] You guys.

[1:40:24] Without government in place, could.

[1:40:26] Group together real quick in your group chat.

[1:40:29] And have better conversations and say.

[1:40:31] Let's adjust. We wanna go to two passes. We wanna go to 1 pass. This isn't working. Let's do paper.

[1:40:37] But it is a.

[1:40:38] Individual neighborhood experience.

[1:40:40] And one of the other reasons why we wanted to do that is, is there differentiation between Bridgeport?

[1:40:46] Endless seminat.

[1:40:48] Or the gardens, right, So that it's individ?

[1:40:51] And the Maple and cottonwoods, so that what that is and that you guys are coming at this as an educated decision. The other reason

[1:40:55] why we need to do this, we're not throwing.

[1:40:59] These aren't bad people.

[1:41:01] But in taking.

[1:41:03] Into this problem.

[1:41:04] We've never had anybody evicted in vineyards.

[1:41:07] For years we were told that your.

[1:41:10] Responses were being heard and that they were being investigated.

[1:41:14] Part of that problem is staff.

[1:41:16] Part of it is.

[1:41:17] OK, this is the type of evidence.

[1:41:19] That needs to be taken.

[1:41:21] Does your can we educate you on this? How can we fulfill with that to be able to do that right?

[1:41:26] And so these are different decisions between 4 different communities on what they want.

[1:41:31] And we're only coming into the meeting to go.

[1:41:34] What is the consensus? Because what happened here is.

[1:41:37] We're going to do digital parking passes.

[1:41:40] We're going to force it down.

[1:41:41] If we're going to use our lose our sovereignty and that's and that's OK.

[1:41:45] But are all four of you that same?

[1:41:47] And then who is and that when if it doesn't work?

[1:41:50] Are you guys all going to come back and scream to us and we're going, no, that shouldn't happen that way.

[1:41:54] There should be 1 neighborhood person.

[1:41:57] That owns it.

[1:41:58] And the other reason why is is that one person or that leadership can help us in a monthly meeting to go.

[1:42:04] Is our enforcement employee doing it the right way? Do you have problems with the evidence? Because we found out.

[1:42:12] That there were excuses that were did not have merit.

[1:42:16] We've gone and met with Provo, we've gone and met with Orem and.

[1:42:19] I don't want this to be an attack on any employee or any past policy.

[1:42:24] But dammit, Oral and Provo do this.

[1:42:27] And so if they can do it, we can do it.

[1:42:29] And so learning those.

[1:42:31] Problems and I don't want to deputize this leader.

[1:42:35] But.

[1:42:36] That and I love our our previous council.

[1:42:39] But I sat on here for two years saying that we are doing enforcement.

[1:42:43] And we weren't.

[1:42:45] And so for two years later to get into it, it's like very frustrating. So we've got to be able to have.

[1:42:50] And then when you talk about enforcement.

[1:42:52] You're talking about very different enforcement.

[1:42:55] And so we've learned through this.

[1:42:57] But then the other thing is, is we've learned is there's bad actors.

[1:43:01] When you give over your sovereignty.

[1:43:04] On the roads.

[1:43:05] And I do agree that it could be good.

[1:43:07] Especially right at the beginning.

[1:43:08] But it's going to **** people off because you're going to make a mistake because you're going to.

[1:43:12] Heart 12 inches.

[1:43:15] You're going to think you didn't. Part 12 and says off.

[1:43:18] And he's compensated by 475.

[1:43:20] You know a toe.

[1:43:22] And so it's like, OK, but you guys?

[1:43:24] You know what I mean? And so it's like you're not coming back to us on if that is.

[1:43:27] But then there's.

[1:43:28] Don't lose our sovereignty toe.

[1:43:30] Which is.

[1:43:31] That we can deputize the leader of your neighborhood to say.

[1:43:35] OK, we don't want him policing.

[1:43:37] We just want them when there is a problem. We want them moving immediately, quickly.

[1:43:42] Right.

[1:43:43] And then that one has to notify that. So someone has to notify real quick.

[1:43:46] So it still goes to.

[1:43:47] The sheriff or or our staff, right?

[1:43:50] And that person is I'm sending a text message to Shoto.

[1:43:54] And we, you know, setting up the automatic tow.

[1:43:59] They can come in 15 minutes and.

[1:44:01] That's what we're learning is better.

[1:44:03] But to be honest with you, this is a learning game and we wanted skin.

[1:44:07] Like you guys are all passionate and I feel the love in the community.

[1:44:11] And the desire to serve.

[1:44:13] But it was like we didn't get that. And we're like, we have to educate on that.

[1:44:18] Because you guys have to stare each other in the eye and so.

[1:44:21] That's what I'm hearing today and if you guys are.

[1:44:23] Willing to do that, You guys are coming.

[1:44:26] Blanketly, umm.

[1:44:27] We'll do this from me, on my standpoint, I'm like.

[1:44:30] I don't mind blanketly doing that.

[1:44:33] But I want a meeting.

[1:44:34] Thursday like.

[1:44:36] Two days from now.

[1:44:38] That you will sit down, that you all show up the same.

[1:44:40] We will go through all of those different problems.

[1:44:43] That we will sit down and find a leadership group.

[1:44:46] So the 9 or 10 people that.

[1:44:48] Send angry emails.

[1:44:50] About I don't want to do it and that's because they research with the other two.

[1:44:54] That they were failed and so we didn't even get a present. OK.

[1:44:57] This is the predatory tub that we're.

[1:44:59] There were.

[1:45:01] Faced with right?

[1:45:03] And so it's you're more educated about.

[1:45:05] And then the last thing I would say is.

[1:45:07] You're more educated about.

[1:45:08] Your decision.

[1:45:09] Because this doesn't work. You guys coming and screaming for two minutes.

[1:45:14] I've been here for two years.

[1:45:16] And coming to the microphone and going north or South side.

[1:45:20] And then hearing from staff saying, oh, it is being done and then it's not. It's like.

[1:45:25] It wasn't being done and I hate to say this, but you were lied to.

[1:45:29] It wasn't. That's a big rant, but those are that's what we're.

[1:45:32] That's why I like the neighborhood thing. It's so come up to the mic now.

[1:45:35] I don't know, can we also share?

[1:45:38] On this real quick.

[1:45:39] One of the big efforts with Operation Neighborhood Shield that was briefed last week is the increased code enforcement, because I

[1:45:43] think everyone here is in agreeance.

[1:45:47] The parking is a problem because of the over occupancy and I know as a statistic you know last year there were over 300.

[1:45:54] Code enforcement violation reports made.

[1:45:57] And I think only two fines were issued.

[1:45:59] So the enforcement piece is where we've historically struggled the most.

[1:46:03] We're moving to add.

[1:46:05] Employees to do that full time as well as shift work morning and evening.

[1:46:09] And bolster how they can collect evidence.

[1:46:12] To actually enforce these codes, you know, you're also real quick, just so you know.

[1:46:16] We're also being gained by investors where the 30 people that are coming in, I know we can't share private information.

[1:46:23] But we know information enough to be able to know how we're being gained and buying multiple houses and you guys have information.

[1:46:30] That can help.

[1:46:31] Better.

[1:46:31] So the decision is being made.

[1:46:33] We also have people that.

[1:46:35] Own the investment properties that also live in Vineyard and go to social media.

[1:46:40] And are scared that we're going to be enforcing this, but there's only 20 to 30 of them so.

[1:46:45] I'm sorry but.

[1:46:46] You bought a home with only four with with four people, not 8.

[1:46:51] And so we have the backbone to be able to do it, but.

[1:46:53] The knowledge that you have in your neighborhoods.

[1:46:56] You know your specific problem and so having a block captain person No, no, we know this person, but also.

[1:47:02] Collectively working together.

[1:47:05] But also there's been some violations that have come in where you guys have been ratted out as to.

[1:47:10] Our employee violating sensitive information like you're turning them in.

[1:47:14] And that and then it stopped your ability to.

[1:47:18] Anonymously go through and do that. So we have to be the bad guys in the.

[1:47:22] And our block, and I hate to say this, but our employees work for us.

[1:47:27] And that type of culture.

[1:47:30] Enforcement that backbone.

[1:47:32] Does not mean it's it's it's love, you know and so.

[1:47:36] That's what we need.

[1:47:37] That's what we're asking from you guys.

[1:47:39] And we're going to be a willing partner.

[1:47:41] Is that one thing, Mayor, please go on to? Can we ask the deputy Sergeant if perhaps?

[1:47:46] He might have some stats for us about about the last week to do more patrolling, right, they did.

[1:47:50] For enforcement, what? What happened there? What?

[1:47:55] Do you have any death and sponsor him?

[1:47:58] The number that we gave that was.

[1:48:01] On there but I mean we've hit it hard up and I mean let's Gemini just for.

[1:48:05] Just for.

[1:48:07] I mean your sake. I mean I've got.

[1:48:09] Excellent pictures of that.

[1:48:11] Tiny ambulance that.

[1:48:12] That they have down here now.

[1:48:15] Where it is right in between the road and I've actually got it within like this distance on both sides.

[1:48:21] So even the small one is having problems in there. It's not like it's unknown for us.

[1:48:26] But even with me and a full size Tahoe going down there.

[1:48:29] It's an issue and can I ask this?

[1:48:31] I mean, while we're on the subject.

[1:48:34] Is there not already the mechanism that if there's.

[1:48:37] And unsafe.

[1:48:39] Parked car like in front of a fire hydrant, in front of a stop sign, on a red curb.

[1:48:43] Can those not just be towed immediately and do we have a agreement in place to allow us to do that?

[1:48:48] Yeah, we can. We can do that.

[1:48:51] Based on the public safety side, so.

[1:48:53] With for instance with your.

[1:48:55] You're right.

[1:48:58] But it's the medical part doesn't necessarily alleviate all of the concern, but that alleviates.

[1:49:02] Some of the safety issue.

[1:49:05] Especially going around corners.

[1:49:06] Right, but it.

[1:49:07] By putting in a party I mean I agree with the permit, it's just the style and then especially when you see people parking from

[1:49:10] the.

[1:49:13] The trail railroads like hey, this person just came over, let's grab them.

[1:49:17] Like that knowledge is key because we could act on it quickly, but that's why I'm saying on a partnership is like.

[1:49:23] We are.

[1:49:23] Screaming. We've messaged to a lot of people like.

[1:49:26] When can we hold this meeting?

[1:49:28] And they can be very quick and especially with.

[1:49:31] The overwhelming desire, and I agree there is misinformation about on both sides, like in terms of like.

[1:49:40] And you're going to learn through this process.

[1:49:42] Really. I mean, as a small business owner, iteration fails great.

[1:49:46] And we're going to do this.

[1:49:48] Contract, we're going to try it for 30 days.

[1:49:50] Great. We're going to switch over and.

[1:49:52] There's kind of like a Swiss army knife of tools of.

[1:49:55] What? Uh.

[1:49:55] What do you want to do?

[1:49:57] And as a civil neighborhood, having those conversations quickly and giving feedback to the leaders what you need.

[1:50:03] So Ron Francis Gordon I.

[1:50:06] First of all.

[1:50:07] I I would like.

[1:50:08] I mean, I think it's pretty unanimous. We want the solution and I don't think.

[1:50:12] From at least our garden.

[1:50:14] Yeah, uh.

[1:50:15] I didn't know.

[1:50:17] The only thing I saw was in this group meet that.

[1:50:20] Has been going on, it's having on most of the information and I came to the meeting 2 weeks ago.

[1:50:23] But I didn't know that.

[1:50:24] You guys were attending to meet with us because I mean I will meet with you any day of the week honestly, you mean and I know I

[1:50:28] can get people in the neighborhood.

[1:50:31] Willing to meet with you? I don't think that.

[1:50:34] You know, I don't think that that's.

[1:50:36] Like I, I don't think there's any kind of political like.

[1:50:41] So you deputize Jacob Smith?

[1:50:43] Or Jacob Wood to hold a meeting with every neighborhood and to start immediately.

[1:50:48] And so this is the first time hearing of that.

[1:50:50] So I was here, Yeah, let many of you know.

[1:50:53] And many of them said sorry, we were told to wait.

[1:50:56] And come to a meeting and vote and we're like, we don't even know what.

[1:50:59] Voting on like.

[1:51:01] I mean, there's a lot of stuff on that chat. It's like trying to read like and that's, you know, in the past.

[1:51:07] Yeah, I just, I just want to say like we are absolutely willing to work with anyone here to try to get a solution so and I'd love

[1:51:11] to hear more about the.

[1:51:15] Neighborhood shield thing because.

[1:51:17] Ultimately, occupancy is the biggest issue. So I mean, sounds like you've already had a consensus. It sounds like most of four

[1:51:20] groups have it.

[1:51:23] And so it's like.

[1:51:24] Yeah, the person that's the leader. Please tell us how to do it, how to proceed. That's my.

[1:51:30] There does need I still want to advocate for the the formal community meetings.

[1:51:35] I I wanna bring up this point and.

[1:51:37] I'm not doubting you all at all.

[1:51:41] In the last 24 hours or so.

[1:51:44] I've gotten a dozen emails.

[1:51:46] From people that are angry we're even talking about this tonight.

[1:51:49] Serious.

[1:51:50] Correct, and that's what I'm I'm asking for help with.

[1:51:54] I suspect.

[1:51:55] That these emails.

[1:51:57] May be people who are already in violation.

[1:52:00] And subsequently they don't want the.

[1:52:02] The parking to be enforced or subsequent.

[1:52:05] Investor owned.

[1:52:06] So we don't know who they are.

[1:52:07] Many of these emails.

[1:52:09] And I actually.

[1:52:09] Maybe Jesse, that would be a point I need to ask about is I don't know if I can disclose their information.

[1:52:15] Many of these emails are citing things.

[1:52:19] Like.

[1:52:20] We're not being included in those discussions. They know that I'm against it, so they won't let me talk.

[1:52:25] Everybody knows this town.

[1:52:27] No, they're not correct. They're talking about your group chats, your community chats, those kind of things.

[1:52:32] Right, but.

[1:52:33] But it but it's what I'm really asking for is I just want to make sure that.

[1:52:37] When we have this meeting, can we make sure the invite goes out to the neighborhood, use the ward text roster or any of those kind

[1:52:42] of things? My question is what meeting was try was attempted to be arranged with Bridgeport?

[1:52:47] That people deny.

[1:52:49] So because Hamlet does not live in fridge.

[1:52:51] So for Bridgeport specifically, I'm curious who was reached out to.

[1:52:55] When that meeting was.

[1:52:57] Who denied it?

[1:52:58] It looks like it looks like there's just what support is still needed.

[1:53:04] So.

[1:53:06] Correct. Yeah, so.

[1:53:08] People are frustrated and saying that they won't even listen to all of these members who have been trying.

[1:53:14] We have been working with Ezra for right, but Ezra, so the vote that night was.

[1:53:19] Why have to start over?

[1:53:21] We don't need to. We don't need to. We can meet Thursday.

[1:53:25] Confusing point right there and where because.

[1:53:27] Because if we were to do that, we would.

[1:53:29] We would put a poster on every single door that day.

[1:53:32] We would like you got to go through a public process. I don't know what GroupMe and it wasn't a public GroupMe and it wasn't

[1:53:36] identified. You guys have to realize.

[1:53:40] By deputizing you guys, we have to do things various, so a neighborhood you have to would.

[1:53:45] It's no, no. What do you need us to do? We have to designate a neighborhood captain is.

[1:53:53] Tonight it sounds like there's four neighborhoods that want to go through and do this.

[1:53:56] We could do this Thursday. I mean, we could do it Thursday and, and many things we could start as a group right here in this

[1:54:00] meeting.

[1:54:04] We can start at 6:00.

[1:54:05] If that works for Friday or Saturday, we're very flexible on what it is.

[1:54:08] But to get every person in four neighborhoods together at one time, we could start doing educational thing all at once.

[1:54:15] Through each one of the different things, the different options that are available.

[1:54:18] This is my question.

[1:54:19] And then break off into four groups to vote and to make decisions to come up. But who are you to say what conversations have and

[1:54:23] have not already happened within the Bridgeport neighborhood?

[1:54:28] Because we already have, and that's what we're coming to say, is that we need this to happen as a government agency a little.

[1:54:34] GroupMe, Facebook, that happened with, that's not where all the conversations have happened. That's what I'm saying. Like you

[1:54:38] don't even know what has happened in Bridgeport over the past couple months for a meeting to bring it all out, to do it in the

[1:54:41] public.

[1:54:45] To who?

[1:54:46] That's what I'm asking. City Council meeting and voted to put Jacob Wooden. I was in that meeting.

[1:54:52] And there was number communication to me after the fact that anybody wanted to meet with me.

[1:54:56] Jacob, are you listening to this? Can you chime in? But we voted in the public meeting and said.

[1:55:01] Because I was under the impression that Jacob reached out to people and I was there not to meet with people until after this and

[1:55:06] my name was on the record and it said Ali Reed from Bridgeport, and I never heard a single thing after the fact.

[1:55:12] So I don't love that there's more hoops that we're trying to jump through.

[1:55:16] Like, we still need to do this. Let's do this, let's do this, let's do this.

[1:55:20] Let's take a 5 minute recess.

[1:55:22] Let's take a 5 minute recess.

[1:55:23] Let's do that. Let's recess. We're doing good, though.

[1:55:26] Well.

[1:55:27] I want to make. I just want to make sure everyone's getting hurt, right?

[1:55:30] So do you guys want to take a research or you want to keep going?

[1:55:34] Keep going whatever you want man.

[1:55:36] Ezra, did you want to say something? You've been wanting to say something.

[1:55:39] Go ahead.

[1:55:40] I would love to.

[1:55:41] Thank you.

[1:55:44] I don't.

[1:55:47] I don't have any issues with.

[1:55:49] Neighborhood.

[1:55:51] At the work session I expressed my support for it.

[1:55:55] I want to be very clear that.

[1:55:57] This parking program that's being proposed is not going to solve.

[1:56:01] All problems.

[1:56:02] But it will absolutely address the low hanging fruit of when.

[1:56:06] You have more than.

[1:56:07] Six cars.

[1:56:09] Out on the street for one household.

[1:56:11] You've got.

[1:56:12] One or 2% of the neighborhood causing.

[1:56:14] 15 to 20% of an issue.

[1:56:17] And.

[1:56:18] I think all this other stuff is great, like we're going to work on code enforcement. Sheriff's already been hitting it hard, but

[1:56:21] we need to do more.

[1:56:25] And part of this.

[1:56:26] Will this help?

[1:56:29] Each home. Each home has.

[1:56:31] Sufficient amount of parking.

[1:56:33] For their own needs, their own cars and encourage people to use.

[1:56:37] Their driveways as well.

[1:56:38] And so I just want to read the resolution that's being proposed real quick.

[1:56:43] It's very short.

[1:56:44] I, I I.

[1:56:47] Gave the framework and.

[1:56:48] 2 council meetings ago and then talked about.

[1:56:51] Or two weeks ago in council meeting.

[1:56:53] And there have been a couple changes that.

[1:56:56] I've made based on.

[1:56:57] Community input and feedback that that I've received.

[1:57:01] And I don't.

[1:57:03] Like me meeting or talking with neighborhoods?

[1:57:06] People that live in my neighborhood, people that.

[1:57:08] Know me and just want to express their opinions.

[1:57:11] As a member of the Council, I don't.

[1:57:13] I don't feel like I have been trying to.

[1:57:17] Circumvent anything that Jacob Wood's doing or Jake Hold away or anyone else on the council is doing it.

[1:57:23] Why don't you add us into group chat?

[1:57:25] Why don't we know about it So two weeks ago?

[1:57:29] I framework Did you imagine how frustrated we are though guys like.

[1:57:32] It's well, right, I know, but like.

[1:57:38] Ezra.

[1:57:40] Don't keep going.

[1:57:41] Thank you, Sir.

[1:57:43] So anyway.

[1:57:45] Have a.

[1:57:47] Some conversations with folks through many, many meetings. People reach out to me on Facebook Messenger.

[1:57:52] It will reach out for your text.

[1:57:55] Not everybody is going to be supportive of this. No, no policy is going to get 100% support ever.

[1:58:00] In the history of the world.

[1:58:03] I've had some great discussions with with people who.

[1:58:05] Say I.

[1:58:07] Move specifically to an area that's not an HOA because I don't want any regulation.

[1:58:12] I don't want to deal with any of this mess.

[1:58:13] And I I've taken.

[1:58:15] Thoughts into consideration in this proposal?

[1:58:18] And my hope is that we can have something that's very low barrier to entry.

[1:58:23] But will address.

[1:58:25] Some of the biggest issues that we have, which is.

[1:58:28] More than.

[1:58:29] Two or three cars in a home, parking on the street, taking up space for everyone else.

[1:58:33] Which causes.

[1:58:34] Like the after effects of people parking illegally because they still want to park close to their homes.

[1:58:38] And so if you.

[1:58:39] Reduce the amount of parking that's available overall.

[1:58:42] Then that should.

[1:58:43] Naturally help without a bunch of resources from the city doing code enforcement. So here here's here's a proposal that I had.

[1:58:49] So there's six points here.

[1:58:51] Number one permits are required for parking vehicles.

[1:58:54] Overnight between hours of 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM on public streets.

[1:58:58] And the permit program neighborhoods which?

[1:59:00] I would include the seminar Bridgeport.

[1:59:02] The Garden.

[1:59:03] And included a blank that sounds like a Maple is super on board. I would love to include them as well.

[1:59:08] To be proactive in that effort.

[1:59:10] Each household in the permit.

[1:59:11] Program Neighborhoods is eligible for.

[1:59:13] See if a free parking permit if requested.

[1:59:16] And here I haven't included whether they're.

[1:59:18] Paper or digital?

[1:59:19] But I think.

[1:59:21] Great points were made about the digital passes. I would love to see that so people don't have to constantly remember.

[1:59:25] To move those and they just register their cars and then they're done.

[1:59:29] Each household may receive a second free permit for household if they are either.

[1:59:33] And owner occupied non rental unit.

[1:59:35] Or an owner occupied rental that has.

[1:59:37] Complied with all applicable city codes and maintains an active.

[1:59:41] Applicable business or rental license, including provisions to provide enough parking spaces on the property.

[1:59:46] So we then encourage people to work with the city if they're having these rental units as well.

[1:59:51] Non rental units may be eligible for a third free permit.

[1:59:54] If they can demonstrate to city staff that there's insufficient parking for their household.

[1:59:58] Based on the number of drivers and their family.

[2:00:00] That's something that I brought up two weeks ago and asked for.

[2:00:03] Council input on.

[2:00:04] Heard a lot of.

[2:00:05] Feedback from the residents that.

[2:00:07] Hey, if we if we allow this, this is going to.

[2:00:09] Get more broad support.

[2:00:10] Be a lot easier to implement for people and.

[2:00:12] And provide that balance between people who don't want any action.

[2:00:15] And people who do want.

[2:00:16] Some enforcement decisions.

[2:00:18] And then I added.

[2:00:20] All decisions by city staff regarding ineligibility based on that belt criteria.

[2:00:24] May be reviewed by the City Council for final determination.

[2:00:27] So that we take.

[2:00:28] The opportunity to weigh in on any of those decisions if people are denied.

[2:00:32] Enough parking passes.

[2:00:35] Additionally, the temporary permits that may be requested for up to two weeks at a time.

[2:00:39] And that the program will be noticed to the permit program neighborhoods through door hangers, social media.

[2:00:44] And any other method that staff use necessary to inform the public.

[2:00:47] And that enforcement would begin May 28, 2026, which is?

[2:00:51] The Thursday after Memorial Day, so going into Memorial Day weekend.

[2:00:54] That's plenty of time to let the public know.

[2:00:57] Let people know that this is happening.

[2:00:59] In those neighborhoods.

[2:01:01] I do feel like this would just be a great first step.

[2:01:03] To help.

[2:01:05] Give code enforcement something to enforce, like in the Gemini.

[2:01:09] There's no rules about how many cars you can park on the street. You could park 1015 cars on the street if you wanted to.

[2:01:14] As long as you move every 48 hours.

[2:01:16] And so if you have code enforcement for something.

[2:01:19] That isn't a law.

[2:01:20] Or isn't a rule.

[2:01:21] Then it wouldn't solve anything on.

[2:01:23] On the amount of parking that's happening on the streets and causing the.

[2:01:26] The safety issues that people have talked about and the other issues as well.

[2:01:31] I do recognize that.

[2:01:32] People aren't all going to be supportive of this.

[2:01:35] But I do think.

[2:01:36] A lot of the community have.

[2:01:38] Exercise their right to organize as a community.

[2:01:40] To reach out to.

[2:01:42] Their council members. Their their neighbors.

[2:01:45] And a lot of people know.

[2:01:46] I don't think we should be putting guardrails on how people.

[2:01:49] Interact with their government.

[2:01:51] And I fully encourage doing all of the above like.

[2:01:55] Have the meetings with with Jake. I've never.

[2:01:57] Tell anybody not to meet.

[2:01:59] With a council member.

[2:02:01] On something that's going to happen in their neighborhood and I haven't done that. And so I just want to be.

[2:02:05] Clear that that.

[2:02:07] That is the case if there is any doubt that.

[2:02:09] One of the issues, though, is that people speak to you, they they assume they've spoken to the city.

[2:02:15] So that everyone got the message they gave to you.

[2:02:17] I think.

[2:02:19] So wait.

[2:02:21] You guys thought you spoke with the city when?

[2:02:31] So I know, but it's just so odd that we're finding out about this in 24 hour like.

[2:02:36] I thought about this.

[2:02:37] Two weeks ago I brought this up because we, and that's the thing that actually made me the most mad. And now that James brought it

[2:02:42] up, I'm just going to open it up. This was a political trap and I'm just going to call it what it is.

[2:02:47] This was ********.

[2:02:48] And I'm not mad at you guys about it. I'm not about how this was handled specifically.

[2:02:52] Recognize this?

[2:02:54] If Ezra brings this up with less than 24 hours notice, which we as a whole Council have agreed.

[2:02:59] That we were going to try to get the agendas out a week prior.

[2:03:03] And we've done a good job of extending that right. We've been doing it on Fridays.

[2:03:07] But this was brought up with less than 20 or 24 hours notice. Now if we don't agree to put this on the agenda immediately.

[2:03:14] This is then weaponized to say that the mayor is blocking a City Council member and that's not the reality of the situation. We

[2:03:18] want to have the discussions. We want to hear you guys out on this stuff.

[2:03:24] OK, so then we put it on the agenda.

[2:03:26] And it comes to the City Council.

[2:03:28] And if we vote no on it?

[2:03:30] We are the immediately the bad guys even though.

[2:03:33] Our direction was subverted.

[2:03:35] When we said let's have a community meeting.

[2:03:38] Then if we vote yes on it.

[2:03:40] You get a quick political win.

[2:03:43] The reality is.

[2:03:44] It totally acted in bad faith and that's not a reflection on the residents.

[2:03:48] That's a reflection on how.

[2:03:50] The City Council is currently operating and I think that that's bad. We need to have these conversations before and it shouldn't

[2:03:56] be political gamesmanship because it does them a disservice. We just real quick, we just would have advised to post this for.

[2:04:03] Seven days.

[2:04:04] We would have advised to have the group.

[2:04:06] In a like, let's identify a Facebook group where the conversation is happening.

[2:04:12] So we can read all the comments. None of us are in any of these comments, OK? So we have no idea on the back and forth of what's

[2:04:15] going on.

[2:04:18] And Jacob would are 100% in the dark on this.

[2:04:22] Would you please?

[2:04:24] I would like to offer a solution I feel like.

[2:04:28] Almost all of us here.

[2:04:30] Feel like we're missing important pieces of information?

[2:04:33] And so.

[2:04:35] Would like to offer.

[2:04:37] That I can.

[2:04:40] I can be a liaison for Bridgeport this week.

[2:04:43] I would love to.

[2:04:45] What if we were?

[2:04:47] Please let me finish. I'm sorry.

[2:04:51] I would love.

[2:04:52] To talk with any and all of you really quick.

[2:04:55] About what information and what stipulations you need from our neighborhoods.

[2:05:00] And I would love.

[2:05:02] To get you guys involved in whatever conversations we are having on paper.

[2:05:07] And I would love to.

[2:05:08] To take some time, I know you want to move fast, We also want to move fast, but the reality is that.

[2:05:14] We are people with children, with evening activities, and we can't always get our whole neighborhood together. What about them?

[2:05:21] And so.

[2:05:22] We would like.

[2:05:24] To, you know, even just have a day and 1/2.

[2:05:28] The If Thursday is the day, what if we want?

[2:05:30] Zoom six and eight. Yeah, I'm just trying to find a solution here.

[2:05:35] I am trying to offer one. Thank you.

[2:05:39] I'm willing to be a liaison to.

[2:05:42] Gather the correct information.

[2:05:44] And share that correct information.

[2:05:46] In as many avenues as possible with my neighborhood.

[2:05:49] So that we can have a meeting.

[2:05:51] That is approved and recognized by the City Council.

[2:05:55] And that our neighborhood knows about so that we can address this. I'm sorry that it didn't happen in the past the way that you

[2:05:58] guys wish it had.

[2:06:02] I'm trying to move forward now.

[2:06:03] Yeah, so.

[2:06:04] I'm offering that as a solution. Is that acceptable to you?

[2:06:07] I think that's great. I think that, yeah, I think that's awesome.

[2:06:10] And let me just back up a little bit.

[2:06:12] The best part about?

[2:06:13] Being the mayor and this new form of governments don't have a vote so much for whatever you guys want to do. I'm cool with it.

[2:06:20] I know you guys meet the rules. I enforce the rules, right? And you know.

[2:06:24] To Parkers point, we are actively recruiting code enforcement. If anyone knows Dog the Bounty Hunter like I will hire him tomorrow

[2:06:27] we put it.

[2:06:31] We posted it.

[2:06:34] And I think that.

[2:06:36] I ought to speak from my seat.

[2:06:38] The emails I've gotten.

[2:06:40] Have been.

[2:06:42] Much more against this.

[2:06:44] What then for it?

[2:06:46] That's just my lived experience over the last 48 hours. And I think that probably, Jake, these gentlemen have it figured out that

[2:06:50] they're probably people that are.

[2:06:54] Out of.

[2:06:56] The loop out of the not out of the loop. Or maybe they're they're thinking like they're not following the law right now anyways.

[2:07:02] But that's for reality. Like.

[2:07:03] If I go through my it's it's.

[2:07:05] It's a lot more against and for it and I.

[2:07:08] And so that's, I think they've received quite some of them as well.

[2:07:12] One of the decisions, I mean.

[2:07:14] We can do it over that night.

[2:07:16] OK, you have.

[2:07:18] When this dropped, none of us knew that was going to be on the agenda.

[2:07:21] So we got bombarded.

[2:07:23] Like 12 to 15 emails going.

[2:07:25] How come I didn't know about the referendum language? Why couldn't I look 'cause we we ran on?

[2:07:29] Working sessions seven days in advance, throwing it out, having everyone know.

[2:07:34] And then the other thing is is what is the?

[2:07:37] Approved communication channel? Is that a Facebook group?

[2:07:40] Is it a GroupMe?

[2:07:42] And which is it to be able to hear?

[2:07:44] And then?

[2:07:45] The city staff in monitoring those comments.

[2:07:49] Because not everything.

[2:07:51] You're told is true, so you'll have like a neighbor that is an investor person.

[2:07:56] That is the problem that is telling us something.

[2:07:59] And so you're like.

[2:08:00] OK, we don't live there. Is this person real or not? Is it real? Does that make sense? That's why that meeting is so critical of

[2:08:04] like.

[2:08:09] We've got to hold that meeting so and that's why we, that's why we as a council just came together and said.

[2:08:14] Jacob Wood.

[2:08:15] Like, make sure that there's a referee.

[2:08:18] And there's going to be winners and losers, but in that meeting that we can hold.

[2:08:23] And then?

[2:08:24] This is the general plan of this neighborhood.

[2:08:28] As a government entity.

[2:08:30] You've got to give ample time to say this is the plan.

[2:08:33] And you've got to go through public notice of so if we were to meet Thursday.

[2:08:38] It might be hard to turn around a plan to say well.

[2:08:42] Will knock doors.

[2:08:43] And I don't know if.

[2:08:45] You could say turn around to vote on it on a Tuesday.

[2:08:48] Because we're seven days away, but we are voting next Tuesday. Yeah, we have to. So we could easily vote on that and get those

[2:08:52] other, you know.

[2:08:56] This is a general solution and have four different plans that say this is what we're what we're going to be doing and I could grab

[2:09:00] the leaders.

[2:09:03] Tonight we'll stay up till in the morning.

[2:09:06] Educating you on These are the decisions, and these are the.

[2:09:09] Pros and cons, and this is some of the things that we've learned.

[2:09:12] Right, because I.

[2:09:13] I don't know if my neighborhood wants me as a representative, but I am. Well, that's what you're here.

[2:09:19] No, to be honest with you, that's what that's what the choosing.

[2:09:25] In that meeting we will be doing that. So whoever shows up, yeah, just so you know, in that first meeting where to go.

[2:09:31] Hey.

[2:09:31] Tell me about your neighborhood.

[2:09:33] And if you can submit some names before.

[2:09:35] You know, talk trash privately, but he'd be like, hey, I don't want this person. Like help us understand.

[2:09:39] Have a quick vote.

[2:09:40] But then also.

[2:09:41] How does this neighborhood communicate?

[2:09:43] Does it communicate on GroupMe?

[2:09:45] Does it communicate on Facebook? What are the best ways?

[2:09:49] And is that public?

[2:09:50] So that everyone is involved in that.

[2:09:53] Group, because we cannot deny public comment. David Kyle, you know.

[2:09:57] Could you do that? Could you?

[2:09:58] Facilitate using like the cities e-mail list to e-mail all of the houses in those neighborhoods to notify them when the.

[2:10:05] You can't do that.

[2:10:07] I think we can post it. We can post it and push it on the social media. Yeah, we can post on social media. We also just to answer

[2:10:11] your question if you want a more immediate.

[2:10:16] So we have an option to.

[2:10:19] There were two Ezra sent in resolution.

[2:10:22] But then.

[2:10:23] The mayor's office has a resolution as well.

[2:10:26] Filled with parking.

[2:10:27] And it's.

[2:10:29] Design more to work with up.

[2:10:32] With the Neighborhood Shield.

[2:10:34] It gives.

[2:10:34] The administration more flexibility.

[2:10:37] In terms of.

[2:10:38] The timing of the enforcement.

[2:10:40] So in theory, you could actually have enforcement instead of waiting until.

[2:10:44] May and May we could be enforcing the middle of April, if not sooner.

[2:10:50] Again, citizens haven't seen that one. Well, what? Yeah, No, no, it's online. It's online. It is online from you posted in the so

[2:10:54] it.

[2:10:59] When there was a miscommunication yesterday and it didn't go online until earlier today, but it's there.

[2:11:06] Go ahead, Tony.

[2:11:09] I have just.

[2:11:11] A direct question.

[2:11:13] For Vineyard government.

[2:11:15] Point blank, what is your source of truth platform? How?

[2:11:19] Do you want to communicate with?

[2:11:22] Your neighborhood.

[2:11:23] What is going to happen because I have no problem following a GroupMe.

[2:11:28] A Facebook, but I do get app fatigue where I'm tired of getting notifications from the.

[2:11:33] So I would like to see Vineyard.

[2:11:37] Government.

[2:11:38] Establish what the source of truth is. If I need to go check the government website because I want to be involved, I'll go there.

[2:11:45] But to have all of these?

[2:11:47] Right, good citizens are have good intentions and where everything has to be officiated anyway.

[2:11:52] What is going to be the source of truth moving forward, even for a meeting on Thursday?

[2:11:57] Where is that going to be public?

[2:12:00] Or published, so we are aware of it. Yes, that's true.

[2:12:02] So that's what we're going to say something.

[2:12:05] Yeah, I just wanted to respond to a comment so.

[2:12:07] I sent this resolution in on Friday.

[2:12:11] Talk to the mayor.

[2:12:13] Said yeah, there was.

[2:12:14] Miscommunication.

[2:12:15] We definitely need to do something.

[2:12:17] We talked about it at the.

[2:12:19] Saint Patrick's Day race which is great as well.

[2:12:23] So I never.

[2:12:24] It was never my intention to have you guys see this 24 hours in advance like those minor changes that.

[2:12:30] I made from 2 weeks ago and.

[2:12:31] Told you guys hey, there's a bunch of residents that.

[2:12:34] Have talked about doing a solution like this.

[2:12:38] That was never my intention, so I apologize if you did feel blindsided by that.

[2:12:43] But I just want to thank the mayor for.

[2:12:45] Including and revising the agenda and allowing.

[2:12:47] Us to take action if we did choose to do so.

[2:12:50] Today or.

[2:12:52] Whenever we would like.

[2:12:54] Yeah, let's do this.

[2:12:57] Sorry.

[2:12:59] So I just did. I just wanted to 1st like.

[2:13:02] When Jacob said, hey, we're all trying to be on the same page and be willing to do something.

[2:13:07] You have me.

[2:13:08] Because that's exactly where we're wrong. Where do we just want something?

[2:13:11] Yeah, for sure action and we wanted something that.

[2:13:14] That's different than what we have said the last five years.

[2:13:17] Yeah, OK.

[2:13:19] I do have a little problem.

[2:13:21] With believing.

[2:13:23] That you guys got headed up 24 hours ago.

[2:13:25] At least it's just hard.

[2:13:28] And as a as a resident of this.

[2:13:32] And as somebody that comes from.

[2:13:34] To work like it is a little concerning.

[2:13:37] To see how you.

[2:13:40] Are interacting.

[2:13:42] And and.

[2:13:44] I just hope, and I'm going to give you all the benefit of doubt.

[2:13:47] That you don't use these emotions to make decisions because that's the worst thing.

[2:13:52] And you know.

[2:13:54] So that being said.

[2:13:57] Coming from the Naples, we did meet.

[2:13:58] With the City Council member.

[2:14:01] We did not have. We had about 10 or 15 people we talked about.

[2:14:04] This permit plan.

[2:14:06] So is that not official?

[2:14:08] I mean, is that kind of?

[2:14:10] And what what what makes it official? Did you put the plan? I mean, did you put the plan on every door like the agreed upon plan?

[2:14:16] So that's that's is that's what makes it official is.

[2:14:19] Well, I mean so.

[2:14:20] We're going to be adjusting the right.

[2:14:23] I mean, yeah.

[2:14:24] We're going to be adjusting the ranks of.

[2:14:26] Homeowners, right? Yeah. So public disclosure of this is happening.

[2:14:30] Was it notified that?

[2:14:32] The your first original meeting because.

[2:14:35] Public, the public decision that we made.

[2:14:37] Was.

[2:14:38] Jacob, what is authorized to do this not as Renaissance? OK, so we didn't even know it was occurring.

[2:14:43] Like I didn't know about your meeting.

[2:14:46] And so and then so and I'm very.

[2:14:49] There were angry calls last night.

[2:14:51] To our city.

[2:14:52] Manager and our attorney and I was like, how in the hell did this happen? Yeah. And why didn't I know?

[2:14:57] And so I was like, we're going to have a bunch of people angry.

[2:15:00] Who is their leader?

[2:15:01] What is the document?

[2:15:02] What decisions did they make?

[2:15:04] What messaging?

[2:15:05] System did you use?

[2:15:07] Did we verify that?

[2:15:08] Because we're going to be infringing upon people's rights to the public. Rd.

[2:15:13] Like.

[2:15:14] You know, putting in an HOA type.

[2:15:17] Towing Enforcement.

[2:15:19] Where we're deputizing them and not having us.

[2:15:23] Is a massive change because none of these people moved into an HOA.

[2:15:26] But we're going to be doing that, which if the group is deciding to do.

[2:15:30] We're so aggressive in wanting to do.

[2:15:32] Like legally, we did none of that.

[2:15:35] And so like we want to move on doing and say, OK, we've got to this is the.

[2:15:39] Communication system.

[2:15:41] This is the notice.

[2:15:42] So we can back it up and say we hit every single door.

[2:15:46] We fired it. We did a second meeting.

[2:15:48] And then we.

[2:15:49] Put it on the City Council meeting for seven days.

[2:15:51] And we came back and said, guys, we deputized this. And so none of those public actions.

[2:15:56] What threshold threshold are you?

[2:15:59] So like.

[2:16:02] Historically in the city, the rule was 75% and we recognized that that was not realistic, especially in the seminar in the

[2:16:06] Bridgeport areas where there's so many renters.

[2:16:11] So we came back and we said, look, even if you're.

[2:16:13] Close to 50%. We just want to make sure that there's an actual consensus because.

[2:16:18] Both weeks that we've had this on the agenda.

[2:16:20] We get blown up the night prior with angry emails that wonders is on the agenda and two people that don't support it. And I

[2:16:26] recognize that it's unpopular to say, but we are also responsible for representing the renters in Vineyard.

[2:16:31] Yeah. And look, we want to do what's best for the community at large and the homeowners and we want to make sure that this is a

[2:16:37] safe place especially. That's why my focus is more on the safety aspect of it.

[2:16:42] But it's.

[2:16:43] We just have to make sure that.

[2:16:45] Everyone is being notified and everyone's brought into the loop and that the information is being disseminated in a way that.

[2:16:50] Everyone can participate and give public comment.

[2:16:53] Yeah, and.

[2:16:54] I was here 2 weeks ago you City Council meeting.

[2:16:57] And this is your agenda from Vineyard website?

[2:17:01] This is all it says. Council member would lead a brief discussion regarding proposed changes of towing enforcement.

[2:17:06] There was discussion among council and residents.

[2:17:09] Presented how to implement changes.

[2:17:11] As well as how to counsel with HOA's, the council decided to continue the item and hold the.

[2:17:16] Longer discussion at a later date, correct? That's a different. That's the. This is the tenant.

[2:17:21] What's that correct? That that discussion was about lakefront? You're thinking the one that you want to know. This is predatory

[2:17:24] touring 24 hour.

[2:17:28] Correct. That's OK. But even 1 from 2 weeks prior, it would have been a month ago and even OK. So two weeks prior though we did

[2:17:32] have a discussion about it again.

[2:17:36] We talked about towing and we talked about enforcement.

[2:17:39] Yeah, but but even very.

[2:17:42] I think it's it's.

[2:17:43] But even then.

[2:17:44] But what I'm saying is you guys are.

[2:17:46] Accusing us of political entrapment, which I think is a little bit extreme if I'm being, if I'm being honest, we have no idea and

[2:17:49] like we're trying to like.

[2:17:52] Ambush or something. This has been a problem we've been talking to you about for a long time, and the last I heard two weeks ago

[2:17:55] we came.

[2:17:58] With concerns and.

[2:18:00] None of us got invited to a meeting or not. None of us. Maybe one of you, one of us did.

[2:18:04] And so.

[2:18:05] We want it to work, but I just don't want.

[2:18:08] The political.

[2:18:09] Politics to get in the way of like what's what well, it is right now it's getting in the way of it right now because you're

[2:18:15] accusing us of trying to trap you into a vote I don't even think anybody in here has suggested has suggested that we.

[2:18:21] Demanding a vote. We're just here to support. Like, that's why I'm here and that's why we come up here.

[2:18:26] Is to support but.

[2:18:27] To have you sit here and accuse us of.

[2:18:29] Trying to go behind your back or something. It's just poor communication is what it ultimately is. You know what I mean? So.

[2:18:34] We just, we just want a solution. I don't.

[2:18:37] I'll work with anyone to get a solution, but.

[2:18:39] All this talk about like we're trying to.

[2:18:42] Trap you in to make a decision I think is just unproductive. So let's just have a let's just have a discussion about.

[2:18:48] Or make a plan because the last meeting that I came to.

[2:18:51] The thing was like we just talked about at a later date and then it got second and then it was off the table, you know what I

[2:18:54] mean? So that's.

[2:18:56] Let's just have some action that's that's still on, you know, let's do a motion. Let's do it.

[2:19:01] I make a motion that.

[2:19:05] A1 representative from each.

[2:19:08] Neighborhood Can you stand up?

[2:19:11] Not the leader that's selected, but just.

[2:19:13] Get the message out, leader.

[2:19:15] So we have.

[2:19:16] There we go.

[2:19:17] So you guys seminar.

[2:19:20] Gardens.

[2:19:22] Maples.

[2:19:24] Hey.

[2:19:28] Are you listening to?

[2:19:29] OK, but it's just to get the message.

[2:19:32] It's just to get the message out so that on social media.

[2:19:36] We can help you and we can find all your Facebook groups.

[2:19:39] So between here and then.

[2:19:41] Are you guys able to act?

[2:19:43] Thursday or Friday?

[2:19:45] We have the interfaith thing Wednesday.

[2:19:46] Tell me pregnant more people than negative.

[2:19:49] OK, now.

[2:19:51] We are we able to get printing out?

[2:19:54] The doors on that meeting on all four neighborhoods, or could we get the printing off?

[2:20:00] To get to these leaders that they could hit it on every door so we've.

[2:20:04] Public notice. So we've fulfilled with public notice requirements.

[2:20:09] That's a lot. I know. That's what I'm saying. So we've got to fulfill with that, right? We can't.

[2:20:14] We don't want to get sued for not fulfilling the public, not like.

[2:20:18] So.

[2:20:23] It's like so we are thinking that it's similar.

[2:20:26] But if we did it at the exact same day and time.

[2:20:29] To find out in the meeting that you can separate it, let's just do this. What's your motion?

[2:20:33] My motion is that.

[2:20:35] We motion that these 4 individuals are.

[2:20:38] Helping us.

[2:20:39] And scheduling a meeting Thursday night.

[2:20:42] And that that meeting will be convened to put together with.

[2:20:45] All of their neighborhoods and we will go over the rules and regulations and options at the beginning of that meeting. We think we

[2:20:49] can get that done in.

[2:20:53] 15 to 20, maybe 30 minutes.

[2:20:56] And that those 4 neighborhoods or three depending on if they break up in the group when they talk.

[2:21:01] Then break up and organize their decisions to come back.

[2:21:05] And then we could go and.

[2:21:07] Finalize that and.

[2:21:08] Paper document.

[2:21:10] And digitally as well.

[2:21:11] So that the following Tuesday we can vote upon the plan of what those neighborhoods.

[2:21:17] OK, awesome. Do I have a second on that tentatively, tentatively based upon the decisions of the, I mean obviously of?

[2:21:23] The groups.

[2:21:24] I think we have pretty much consensus.

[2:21:27] Right. I think we there's a broad range of.

[2:21:30] We're going to be doing something.

[2:21:32] There's many different options of what that is, and it's individual.

[2:21:36] Like on what it is.

[2:21:37] But I would also ask that tomorrow I'm available.

[2:21:40] So if we could meet the leaders to go through and educate about what those options are. So they're pre.

[2:21:45] We could do an educational thing.

[2:21:47] We could even do this straight like on a Facebook Live, so that it's a little bit easier for those to attend, like at 10:00 at

[2:21:50] night.

[2:21:53] Like we are more than willing to wait to go through.

[2:21:55] And educate, but there's some tough decisions that you guys are going to make. That's a neighborhood.

[2:22:01] Let's drive a second to that motion. That's a long motion, Kate.

[2:22:05] Can I ask some clarifying questions? Yes.

[2:22:09] So we'll notice it is a.

[2:22:10] Public City Council meetings so that everybody can attend.

[2:22:12] Yeah, that I know. That's a struggle too with just.

[2:22:15] With the corn, do you want a corn?

[2:22:19] I would like to attend.

[2:22:21] The Jason boy will be there, so the three of us will be here. I don't have a vote, so you guys just tell me what to do.

[2:22:26] So there's.

[2:22:28] This is going to be.

[2:22:30] And I'll just highlight like that, that's one of the struggles of.

[2:22:34] You know, we have all these rules and regulations on.

[2:22:37] Public meetings and we.

[2:22:39] We noticed them on the Public Notes website.

[2:22:41] So that we can all have. We can't meet five of us without going through all those steps.

[2:22:46] And so that's why this this process and official council meetings are so important in my opinion.

[2:22:51] I'm happy to call a special meeting if we would like to do that, just so everybody can attend.

[2:22:55] But I don't.

[2:22:57] I don't feel like limiting the discussion to just.

[2:23:00] One or two council members is.

[2:23:02] Better when we can just have it with all of us have it out. Yeah. Can we just bring the neighborhoods in?

[2:23:07] Like 1 after another hour by hour block or something and just do it in here.

[2:23:11] I think the semantics we can. So the motion is, the motion is we are going to.

[2:23:19] Is that OK? Are you getting this, Tony? All right, so let's. I'm just glad, OK. All right.

[2:23:29] This is the motion.

[2:23:30] The motion is we are going to have a meeting.

[2:23:32] On what is the motion, Jake?

[2:23:35] Yeah, you said they're going to be meeting.

[2:23:39] I make a motion that the four captains selected this evening from the four different neighborhoods.

[2:23:45] Are going to be helping get out the word throughout their various.

[2:23:48] Messaging apps the best that they can, all the different ones that are.

[2:23:51] Available.

[2:23:52] For a meeting on Thursday night.

[2:23:55] We will allow for a different time flexibility.

[2:23:59] That we hopefully at the end of this night we can find out.

[2:24:02] And then?

[2:24:03] In that meeting.

[2:24:05] We will discuss the various options and we will pick leadership.

[2:24:08] To be able to do it and hopefully present.

[2:24:10] Basics of a plan.

[2:24:12] That then can be sent out to the neighborhoods to be ratified.

[2:24:16] Or voted on at the next City Council meeting on Tuesday.

[2:24:20] March 31st.

[2:24:21] 31st.

[2:24:22] OK, do I have a?

[2:24:25] If they so need more help.

[2:24:27] Or time you know there's.

[2:24:29] Just there's.

[2:24:31] Angry emails say I wasn't included.

[2:24:33] But if if it's like, hey, but The thing is, is this this.

[2:24:37] All right. That's my motion. That's your motion.

[2:24:40] Do I have a second?

[2:24:43] 2nd.

[2:24:44] Parker seconded.

[2:24:47] All in favor, aye?

[2:24:50] I, I what time is?

[2:24:52] Tuesday's council.

[2:24:54] Next 6:00 PM. Is that work for you? Yeah.

[2:24:57] OK, we'll bring the 6:08 PM.

[2:25:00] And and if if Jacob Wood says I so it doesn't.

[2:25:04] I don't think I have anything else, can I?

[2:25:06] Can I excuse myself to go meet with them throughout the rest of the meeting?

[2:25:10] Just the leader, yes, let's do that. Because if we're going to do that next Tuesday, I've got to get through some other stuff

[2:25:14] regarding the other things. So should we do like a?

[2:25:19] Do you want to?

[2:25:21] OK.

[2:25:23] All right, we'll keep going.

[2:25:25] All righty.

[2:25:26] Motion passes.

[2:25:30] OK. You guys want to recess?

[2:25:38] The bathroom. Can you give me like 3 minutes? Give me like 3 minutes.

[2:25:44] Yes, if you would like to reach this, we can hit the gavel. It doesn't count.

[2:25:49] 4 minute reset.

[2:25:54] Good job, Mayor.

[2:25:56] 16.

[2:32:23] You are live. OK, We are going to come out of recess now.

[2:32:29] Get back after it.

[2:32:31] Um.

[2:32:34] So we need to do let's motion to move 8.6 to next week.

[2:32:39] We need to officially do that right?

[2:32:40] Move 8.6 next week. OK so can I get a motion?

[2:32:44] I move, we continue 8.6 to next week. Tuesday's meeting.

[2:32:49] You have a second, all right? All in favor. Aye, aye.

[2:32:51] OK, motion passes.

[2:32:53] All right, let's jump down to. We're going to go to the.

[2:32:56] Arch Commission.

[2:32:58] Portion 10.2 Let's go arch.

[2:33:02] Teddy.

[2:33:03] OK, discussion, right? I'm just gonna do it from over here.

[2:33:07] You're all by yourself. Where did 1 go?

[2:33:11] There we go.

[2:33:12] All right, go ahead, Brian.

[2:33:14] OK.

[2:33:16] Apologize for the wait.

[2:33:20] But yeah, so essentially.

[2:33:23] Have some final thoughts for you?

[2:33:26] When we met with the Arts Commission.

[2:33:28] Last Thursday.

[2:33:30] We didn't have enough to do a formal vote, but I got.

[2:33:34] Basically their thoughts to bring before you.

[2:33:37] We'll move forward with that.

[2:33:39] Why is this not only had two commissioners there? Is that right?

[2:33:42] We had three, but one of them had recused themselves of a vote.

[2:33:47] And so we couldn't officially vote.

[2:33:50] Something in particular.

[2:33:54] Let's see.

[2:33:56] Why is this showing up with two screens?

[2:33:58] Oh, because we have.

[2:34:00] So OK.

[2:34:03] Legal counsel.

[2:34:04] OK, well if you can't see this, I'll just go through this.

[2:34:07] Briefly and I'll answer any questions that you have.

[2:34:10] Vineyard Library had.

[2:34:12] The highest?

[2:34:14] Overall score from the Arts Commission.

[2:34:19] 3630 is the Max that they could get.

[2:34:22] What was mentioned earlier by a resident is that.

[2:34:26] There's potential they could get $130.00 less so it's between awarding full to Vineyard library.

[2:34:32] Or Utah Valley Symphony down below. I'll go over that here in a second.

[2:34:37] Friends of the Vineyard Library.

[2:34:38] They requested 2000 they had the second highest vote from the Arts Commission.

[2:34:44] They'd like all of them to.

[2:34:46] They'd like them to get the full budget.

[2:34:48] That specifically would.

[2:34:51] Go towards a second weekly story time.

[2:34:54] Paying for staff to do that, it would pay.

[2:34:57] Also $800 worth.

[2:35:00] To go towards adult.

[2:35:02] Books.

[2:35:03] For the library as currently we do not have any.

[2:35:06] Adult.

[2:35:09] Books.

[2:35:10] For children.

[2:35:13] $0.00 recommended for Carry On which is the skate park group.

[2:35:17] Just put the skate park coming in.

[2:35:22] Vineyard Heritage Foundation.

[2:35:24] Reached out and said that.

[2:35:25] Instead of their original request of 15,750.

[2:35:30] That they could.

[2:35:31] Make do and carry out the project.

[2:35:33] For 11,000.

[2:35:36] So it was talked about that we give them the full budget that they requested with that.

[2:35:42] Utah Valley Symphony.

[2:35:43] Is umm.

[2:35:45] Again, either of those numbers.

[2:35:47] And then Utah Lake Foundation would be 1500.

[2:35:51] This is for a paddle with care event that starts in Vineyard.

[2:35:57] And is about drowning prevention.

[2:36:00] That holds the 20,000. Happy to go into more detail if you have more questions on specifically what all those would be allocated,

[2:36:03] clarify earlier.

[2:36:07] Right. It's where you have the oars on the top of the library and then for is that the Symphony?

[2:36:13] Yes. Umm.

[2:36:15] You did clarify that.

[2:36:16] The difference is between those 2 exactly.

[2:36:20] The Arts Commission, they were fine with either option, they said let the City Council decide how they want to.

[2:36:26] Do that.

[2:36:27] As far as Council discussion goes, if I can just jump into that, I would prefer that the funding goes to the library.

[2:36:34] OK. Any other adjustments to this?

[2:36:43] I would love to.

[2:36:46] Do both kind of.

[2:36:49] If we could give the one.

[2:36:51] 30 instead of taking me out of the Vineyard library, which is the government.

[2:36:55] Operation umm.

[2:36:57] The Friends of the Vineyard Library.

[2:37:00] Takes donations.

[2:37:01] And so if we could.

[2:37:02] Take the 1:30 out of that and give it to the Symphony.

[2:37:06] I'll backfill the rest.

[2:37:08] If we want to do that.

[2:37:09] Can I ask and?

[2:37:11] Brian, chime in please, but also Ezra, share your thoughts.

[2:37:16] What is the net?

[2:37:18] Benefit of us giving to the Symphony.

[2:37:21] Did they come and put on a show and then do they still charge us tickets and admission?

[2:37:26] No, they'll put on a free show for Vineyard Days.

[2:37:30] But the the main portion of this.

[2:37:33] Budget is specifically to do a fanfare, so it'd be a recording.

[2:37:37] That basically be a theme song for Vineyard for Vineyard events.

[2:37:42] My personal thoughts and I've I've shared this.

[2:37:47] Publicly before.

[2:37:49] Was that?

[2:37:50] I think that there's a lot of opportunity.

[2:37:53] For the library to grow and what I.

[2:37:56] Have.

[2:37:57] Advocated for this money to be used for is to cede the.

[2:38:01] Fundraising efforts.

[2:38:03] And help with the.

[2:38:05] I don't want to say revenue generating programs because the goal of the library isn't to generate, you know, a profit or anything

[2:38:08] like that.

[2:38:10] But to help implement the programs as necessary to cover the operating costs.

[2:38:16] Right, for example.

[2:38:18] One of the things that they're working on right now is implementing.

[2:38:22] Payment essentially an annual fee for non residents.

[2:38:26] To use our library card system.

[2:38:29] With that, there will be expenses, things like payment processing fees.

[2:38:33] So I'm I'm.

[2:38:35] Interested in?

[2:38:37] The allocation to support those type of efforts and then also support.

[2:38:41] The Friends of Vineyard Library in their fundraising process.

[2:38:46] You know I I have a question about.

[2:38:48] About the library being funded at all.

[2:38:50] Yeah, when we were.

[2:38:52] When the previous mayor sold us on the library concept, it was going to be something that never cost the city a cent.

[2:39:01] It was all we all we donated efforts.

[2:39:03] And they?

[2:39:04] They will use the old city, the old City Hall and torn down.

[2:39:10] Use a room over there.

[2:39:11] And it would be a children's library.

[2:39:13] Children's books and so on and so forth.

[2:39:16] OK, but we already have.

[2:39:18] Four other children's libraries.

[2:39:20] In the city.

[2:39:23] Each of which has expressed.

[2:39:25] Speaking to the.

[2:39:26] Librarians and principles of the schools involved.

[2:39:29] Have expressed that the.

[2:39:31] I'm more than happy to to help the citizen.

[2:39:34] A vineyard.

[2:39:35] Whatever their library needs are.

[2:39:38] And so it seems redundant.

[2:39:40] To spend.

[2:39:42] Not worthwhile for the city to spend money.

[2:39:45] On a library system.

[2:39:46] That's already built.

[2:39:47] And already structured.

[2:39:48] Already in place.

[2:39:50] And this weren't happy to.

[2:39:53] To work with us, I mean, if we have to spend some monies to.

[2:39:56] To help the.

[2:39:57] You know, library or libraries of choice.

[2:40:00] Be able to handle.

[2:40:01] You know, accepting.

[2:40:04] Library cards from the, you know, from the public in general I could see that risk, but.

[2:40:08] Well, why are we trying to recreate the wheel? We've already got four wheels.

[2:40:12] So I think one of the.

[2:40:15] I think let's.

[2:40:17] Glad to ask Parker.

[2:40:19] Something that I've been.

[2:40:20] Looking at I've shared this with staff, I talked to the library board about it.

[2:40:24] There was a lot of, I think, missed opportunity from the previous administration.

[2:40:29] In recouping operating costs for the library.

[2:40:32] And I don't want to say that it was.

[2:40:35] You know.

[2:40:37] Not to paint anyone in a negative light.

[2:40:39] But action just wasn't ever taken to.

[2:40:42] Make that as efficient as it could be.

[2:40:45] And I see a lot of opportunity for the library to actually become truly self-sustaining.

[2:40:50] And to envision that, I've met with the library board. I've met with the Friends of Vineyard Library.

[2:40:55] And I think we have a pretty good.

[2:40:57] Plan in place that would.

[2:40:58] Essentially.

[2:41:01] If implemented appropriately.

[2:41:03] Significantly raised their operating budget. They just need the help to get to the point to actually be able to do that.

[2:41:09] At this point.

[2:41:11] Awesome.

[2:41:12] Any other comments?

[2:41:14] About 10.2.

[2:41:17] OK, seeing none, I will take a motion.

[2:41:20] Oh, hi, Jacob.

[2:41:23] I'll motion to.

[2:41:25] Approve the.

[2:41:28] Recommendations with with.

[2:41:29] The noted adjustment to move.

[2:41:32] $130.00 from the Friends of Vineyard library to.

[2:41:36] The Utah Valley Symphony.

[2:41:38] And I want to include it in the motion because it'll just be a personal donation, so.

[2:41:44] OK. All right.

[2:41:46] Do I have a second?

[2:41:50] OK. Sorry, hold on.

[2:41:52] You said you were going to make a personal donation to.

[2:41:54] Recoup the.

[2:41:55] Money that.

[2:41:56] Advocating to pull out. Why wouldn't you just donate it to the Symphony then?

[2:42:00] I don't know how to donate to the Symphony but OK.

[2:42:04] So.

[2:42:06] That wasn't part of the motion.

[2:42:07] So the motion is.

[2:42:09] Holy smokes, tonight is a.

[2:42:12] All right, one more time is there.

[2:42:14] Somebody.

[2:42:16] Yes, fund the recommendations as is with.

[2:42:18] Moving 130 from the Friends of the Vineyard Library.

[2:42:21] The nonprofit that'll have the donation like that, I've got.

[2:42:24] To the Utah.

[2:42:26] Awesome, do I have a second?

[2:42:28] 2nd.

[2:42:28] All right. All in favor, aye.

[2:42:31] Aye, aye. Motion passes.

[2:42:35] OK guys, we're getting stuff done tonight. Two things. One, now that is in motion.

[2:42:39] Thank you, Short and sweet 2. It's a resolution. This is a resolution that is right. So let's do a roll call. Council member

[2:42:43] Mccumber votes aye.

[2:42:49] Councilman of Wood votes aye.

[2:42:52] This is the same thing. Same vote. Yeah. Same vote. Yeah. It's a it's a resolution. The race is yes.

[2:42:58] OK, Councilman Renair.

[2:43:01] Yes, yes.

[2:43:02] Great. Yeah.

[2:43:04] All righty 10.3.

[2:43:08] Creation of an event committee and off.

[2:43:10] Authorization.

[2:43:12] For the committee to establish a nonprofit.

[2:43:15] DK do you want to? David Child, do you want to?

[2:43:18] Explain this real quick the thought behind.

[2:43:20] This yes so.

[2:43:22] This.

[2:43:23] What what this will do?

[2:43:25] Is this full?

[2:43:27] Create a nonprofit where?

[2:43:31] Volunteers from our city.

[2:43:34] Can raise funds for Vineyard events.

[2:43:37] And.

[2:43:38] Vineyard.

[2:43:40] Projects that will benefit the community.

[2:43:43] And it will also establish a committee under the direction of the City Council.

[2:43:47] To administrate.

[2:43:51] Awesome.

[2:43:52] Any questions for David Kyle?

[2:43:55] OK, sorry I didn't say.

[2:43:57] Is there a backup document on this or is that just the broad direction would be?

[2:44:01] Did they not get the back of that?

[2:44:05] OK.

[2:44:07] It should be on there.

[2:44:10] I got some of those angry emails about parking in here.

[2:44:19] There's even more.

[2:44:24] If we get an e-mail, we put it in your packet.

[2:44:26] Thank you for that.

[2:44:28] OK.

[2:44:31] I don't see.

[2:44:32] Is it in my resolution funding? No, it's not electronic.

[2:44:37] I'd like to get that. Would you like to put it on the screens?

[2:44:45] How long is it?

[2:44:46] Oh, go ahead. Oh, it's not online to you.

[2:44:49] That's the.

[2:44:52] I don't know why the creation of this Commission.

[2:44:56] What's that?

[2:44:57] Are you tying any funding to the creation of this Commission? No.

[2:45:03] Is it a?

[2:45:05] Continual Commission in the sense that it will operate 365 days a year, or is it?

[2:45:10] Exclusive maybe springtime through Vineyard days each year. It will help facilitate all Vineyard events. OK.

[2:45:18] So all year.

[2:45:22] I'm supportive of the concept. Could we maybe just continue this to the next week meeting so we can?

[2:45:26] Have the backup.

[2:45:27] So that.

[2:45:28] He's gonna pull it up.

[2:45:29] Yeah, that's what he's trying to do right now.

[2:45:33] OK. Can we take public comment on it?

[2:45:35] Yes, well, it's here we go. I guess it's right here.

[2:45:41] We've had plenty of problems.

[2:45:47] You can't say that you're the mayor.

[2:45:50] I'm inclusive in all decisions.

[2:45:56] Not made it.

[2:46:00] I'm sorry. OK, let me.

[2:46:02] Ninja.

[2:46:12] Please.

[2:46:28] He's gone again.

[2:46:34] I don't read that fast.

[2:46:39] Staggered terms for two or four years.

[2:46:43] Chair.

[2:46:45] OK, so this is like an official.

[2:46:48] What's the advisory? Is it advisory?

[2:46:51] Can I get a week on this?

[2:46:52] Is there?

[2:46:53] Is there code?

[2:46:54] Associated with the creation of this that's.

[2:46:56] Is it in this packet? We just haven't got to it yet.

[2:46:59] This I mean this resolution creates the.

[2:47:02] Commission, OK.

[2:47:06] We already have. We already have code for. I think it would be.

[2:47:11] I think it would be.

[2:47:12] You know, being that we're going to have a merge, a special session next Tuesday, it would work to.

[2:47:19] Move this Tuesday.

[2:47:21] That is special in the sense that it's outside the regular, it's outside of the regular schedule. I already planned my vacation.

[2:47:29] Yeah, if.

[2:47:31] If there's not an immediate urgency for this there, there is an emergency.

[2:47:35] Because we'd like to use it for.

[2:47:37] For Vineyard days coming up, however, we could, do you know, another week for work Tuesday? Yes, Yes, exactly. Yes, fine.

[2:47:44] We don't. We don't need it tonight, but we don't need it in a month.

[2:47:47] Understood. OK.

[2:47:49] Did you have?

[2:47:50] I would like public comment.

[2:47:53] To ask if it could be.

[2:47:56] Yeah, I agree with that. I agree to move it.

[2:47:59] I think it would be a great idea, David. So could you make a motion, Ezra? I will move to continue this one week second.

[2:48:05] All in favor.

[2:48:06] Aye.

[2:48:08] Awesome.

[2:48:09] Jump to the.

[2:48:12] That's it, Don.

[2:48:13] No, hey, we got the travel policy.

[2:48:16] Oh, we went out of order.

[2:48:17] Yes, we did.

[2:48:18] OK oh, travel policy. I'm so glad I got a pen out of this meeting.

[2:48:27] So on the travel policy, I know.

[2:48:30] I know we had a lot of comments in the work session.

[2:48:33] Did all those get on there because.

[2:48:37] One was.

[2:48:38] 35 miles on the 50. I thought we wanted to try to standardize that, but.

[2:48:42] I think all the other comments got on there.

[2:48:46] Yeah, I think we still need to adjust the.

[2:48:51] Was it the language and the resolution or the language in the just the actual policy itself I think was the issue. Is it just

[2:48:55] standardization of like the the miles?

[2:48:59] Just making sure reconciling I believe it was.

[2:49:03] It was 50 miles.

[2:49:05] Like we had the, we talked about it last week, but you've got.

[2:49:09] You know, approval for anything beyond 50 miles. But then we have like.

[2:49:14] You could get.

[2:49:15] Nighttime or what was the 35 miles to the local travel or?

[2:49:20] The other one.

[2:49:21] Yeah, we just want to make sure that the wording was right, yeah.

[2:49:24] OK, I didn't like read through and make sure all the red lines got adopted, but I just saw that one in there and that was like,

[2:49:28] oh.

[2:49:31] Yeah, sorry. I might have been working with the order draft of that.

[2:49:35] Packet so.

[2:49:40] Our goal is to get.

[2:49:41] Is to try and get at least a few of these each month. A few of these.

[2:49:45] Policies in place so we can picking them off 1 by 1, taking them off one at a time so we can pass our next audit.

[2:49:52] OK.

[2:49:57] We're super close on this. I mean, I feel like a work session. We all kind of.

[2:50:01] We're on the same page.

[2:50:02] Can we just get?

[2:50:04] Any public comment if the public has any comments and then approve it on consent on.

[2:50:08] Next Tuesday if we need to do that.

[2:50:10] Just to make sure all the edits got an error.

[2:50:12] If we can go through that, it's now and make sure yeah, I just I just read it and I think this looks.

[2:50:17] Fine, I didn't see anything. That's a red flag to me now.

[2:50:20] You want to. We can read it together.

[2:50:22] But I'm happy to continue it. If you want to continue it and take more public comment on it, you know what, let's just approve it

[2:50:25] and then just.

[2:50:28] Clean it up so like take the brackets out since we already decided that.

[2:50:31] Put it all in.

[2:50:32] The standard language and you guys can make those.

[2:50:35] Sounds good technical, and it's something Lizzie kind of like approved with the edits made during the last. There we go.

[2:50:41] Awesome.

[2:50:42] Can I get a motion?

[2:50:44] I move to approve Resolution number 202618, a resolution adopting travel and expense reimbursement policy for personnel and

[2:50:49] authorized representatives with.

[2:50:54] The edits and clarifications that we made in the previous City Council meeting.

[2:51:00] Awesome. Thank you. Awesome.

[2:51:02] All in favor.

[2:51:04] Aye, OK.

[2:51:06] That's a resolution, so we'll call.

[2:51:09] Councilmember.

[2:51:10] Parker Mccumber votes aye.

[2:51:12] Would votes aye?

[2:51:15] Aye.

[2:51:16] Awesome.

[2:51:17] Aye, resolution passes.

[2:51:19] OK. So the last is going to be department appointment of?

[2:51:23] The Planning Commission appointment.

[2:51:25] We have a empty seat in our Planning Commission.

[2:51:28] And uh.

[2:51:29] I AM.

[2:51:34] Asking.

[2:51:34] That we appoint Daria.

[2:51:37] Evans to fulfill that vacancy.

[2:51:41] So moved.

[2:51:42] 2nd.

[2:51:43] All in favor.

[2:51:45] Aye, aye.

[2:51:46] Wait, hold on, is this a? This is a consent of the.

[2:51:52] This one does not need a.

[2:51:56] Awesome.

[2:51:57] Congratulations, welcome. Thank you for your willingness to serve.

[2:52:00] Sure. Appreciate it.

[2:52:02] OK. All right. That's all we have. I think that's all we have for tonight.

[2:52:06] And.

[2:52:10] Yeah, that's right. Where are you in tonight? Please talk to us about how you're going to.

[2:52:17] No.

[2:52:21] So yes, let me make sure I have the wording right, because as many times as I do it, I'll forget it once.

[2:52:28] While you're pulling that up, if I could just have a.

[2:52:30] Point of.

[2:52:32] Privilege.

[2:52:34] Thank you all for the discussion tonight.

[2:52:36] I know things.

[2:52:38] He did it and I'm bummed that everybody left before they got to see us.

[2:52:42] Cordially getting business done as well.

[2:52:44] But I I've.

[2:52:45] I've got no.

[2:52:47] Personal animus towards anyone.

[2:52:49] I respect all of our our council members and.

[2:52:52] I know there's mutual respect there and.

[2:52:55] Just grateful to to serve on this on this board and what these great people and residents that are.

[2:53:00] Engaged, involved and.

[2:53:01] So thank you so much for.

[2:53:03] Being here and.

[2:53:04] Participating.

[2:53:05] Thank you.

[2:53:06] All right, we have the.

[2:53:09] Come on up here, let's get a picture of are you guys.

[2:53:15] Yeah.

[2:53:25] Please right hand for me.

[2:53:28] OK.

[2:53:30] OK, let's get in the background.

[2:53:37] This is so awesome. Make sure you get the wording right here.

[2:53:41] Yeah, no pressure, right?

[2:53:43] All right, let's go ahead and repeat after me. I state your name.

[2:53:46] Aria Evans.

[2:53:47] Hi, Maria Evans.

[2:53:49] Having been appointed.

[2:53:51] Having been appointed to the Planning Commission to the Planning Commission.

[2:53:54] Do solemnly swear.

[2:53:57] To.

[2:54:01] Support, obey, and defend.

[2:54:03] Support, obey, and defend.

[2:54:05] The Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Utah.

[2:54:10] And the constitution of the State of Utah, and then I will discharge the duties.

[2:54:14] And then I will just start discharge the duties of my office.

[2:54:18] With Fidelity.

[2:54:20] Outstanding.

[2:54:26] The pressure on you.

[2:54:34] Thanks so much.

[2:54:36] Thank you. Thank.

[2:54:39] Thank you, Jacob. Thank you.

[2:54:41] Whenever I get to that song.

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