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Good
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morning. I saw that I was allowed to speak, but you're actually on mute so I couldn't hear you.
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Yes, I can. Now, Christine. Can you hear us now, Andrew? Yes, I can. Okay, wait, then first I was to say that we go into the data sharing IGA and you're going to show your face or not. I just have, yes.
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Then we go.
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So, there's the Andrew, we know and love.
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Hi there. My name is Andrew Burk, I'm the IS Director. I'm here to talk about the
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data sharing intergovernmental agreement between Wasco County, Noracore, and City of the
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Dalles. The purpose of this agreement is we've been working on a new computer-aided dispatch
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and records management system for about the last year now, and we are in the process of setting up an interface between the jail records management system and our records management system that we're building through Prophenix.
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And the purpose of this is to enable the communication of data between those two systems.
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And so really that's the purpose behind the intergovernmental agreement that you see before us before you.
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I've outlined this essentially in the memo and so really we're just here to hopefully move this forward and enable us to create this interface.
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All right, thanks Andrew. Questions for Andrew of this item?
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I don't have a comment, I think this is a fantastic, there's going to be so much better
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in terms of efficiency operation between, it's going to save us, it's one of those we put
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some money out, it's going to save a huge amount of money down the road, highly approved.
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Just one question or comment, I think I know the answer to, but it doesn't involve OSP
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who also uses at least NORCOR, but OSP has their own dispatch, OSP has their own records
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management.
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I assume.
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Is that correct?
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Correct.
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That was the only thing that I saw that I had questions about is whether they needed
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to be involved, but I get why they're not.
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So, and in the IGA talks, there's a section that talks about costs, but then there's,
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there's basically, it doesn't list any specific costs and just talks about how costs are just
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part of the system that cat RMS anyway, so this doesn't change anything cost-wise, is that correct?
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Yeah, it's a part of the Profenix project that you guys reviewed a while back.
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There may be some additional costs with EIS.
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We're still in order to engage in those discussions.
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We have to have this agreement in place though.
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At some point, after another dozen or more of these contracts and ITAs and all this with CAD RMS,
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I'll start to catch on and understand everything about it.
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That's all I have, Chair.
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Well, I just one more comment if I may.
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Then as I noticed, it says that the county will pay the initial cost
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and then split it up afterwards.
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That's very generous of us.
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We're nice.
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We are.
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All right.
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Thanks, Andrew.
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Is this mostly Siege's information that's kind of circulating in this?
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Yes, it is.
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Okay. All right. Very good. Okay. I have no other questions. Does somebody have a motion?
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I could figure out where my motions are here. I would do it, but
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that's underneath this. We'll get all this squared away after a while.
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I move to approve the data sharing of the government agreement, pursuant to R.S. Chapter 190
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among Wasco County, acting through the Wasco County Sheriff's Office, and Wasco County Information Services.
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Northern Oregon Corrections, NORCOR, and the City of the Dallas, acting through the
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Dallas Police Department, and authorize the board chair to sign all related documentation.
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I second the motion.
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We have motion.
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Second.
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Any discussion on the motion?
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Here, and I know it was a favor.
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Say aye.
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Aye.
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Chair votes, yes.
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Unanimous.
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Okay.
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Very good.
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You are still up, Andrew.
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I think.
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Third Street Security and Access Control.
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Upgrade.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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So the other item you have before you, we've been working on really kind of building out and
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enhancing security and access controls within the third street building over the past year,
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a couple years actually. Part of that has been really also trying to identify how the buildings
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being used and allowing a little bit of time to pass in order to make informed and good decisions
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towards how we enhance the security and so that's this is really the culmination of a number of
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years of analysis to see how the building is getting used and then also to put in place some
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security measures that that we don't currently have because there are some potential changes in
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the building as well in terms of renovations. We did avoid certain doors etc to help ensure we're
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duplicating costs down the road as well and so we had a number of people review the list of
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doors that we're looking to add. That also requires a enhancement or an upgrade within our core
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really where we put all of our controller electronics within the system. We have to build some
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of that out as well in order to accommodate the number of doors that we need to, that we need to.
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So that's really what this is about.
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It also enables us the ability to set up some lockdown procedures and the event that
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that is necessary, along with enabling some paths through mechanisms for like buzzing
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people in, etc.
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All right.
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Thanks, Andrew.
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Questions for Andrew?
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Go ahead.
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Andrew, first of all, I appreciate the comment in the memo that you just mentioned.
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made in your covering the memo about not including things that are highly likely or planned
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on being changed in the future. The question I would have is how, so is there a general
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sense of how many doors or how much additional security upgrade there's going to be after
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this upgrade goes or is that just kind of a loaded question because it's kind of a moving
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target? A little bit of a moving target, but I don't suspect that it's too many. We're
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really trying to hit the high points with this project upgrade here. And then, you know,
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as either space gets adjusted or becomes available or we're varying various things within the building,
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and then we'll have one or two doors
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in each of those locations to add to.
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I think the key thing here is the controller upgrades.
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That's kind of the core upgrade that's needed.
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And then that enables us to fairly easily
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add other doors to the system as we expand.
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Yeah.
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Now that's good that clearly answers my question.
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I appreciate that.
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And then I assume I didn't look through so I should assume it might be in here I'm guessing
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was this kind of a source kind of a thing or is it something that somebody we've been
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working with or did this go out to bid at some point?
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Yeah.
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So cook solutions is they've installed and maintained the system themselves.
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And so they're really the source that we're purchasing from in order to, they know the
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system, the continuity of the system, they understand the technicals, they did all the
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programming, etc.
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And so it would be very difficult to bring another vendor in to do all of that stuff.
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And more expensive I assume.
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Yes.
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Yeah, we also have been able to, there's a number of things we're able to do in-house because
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as we've over the years developed that relationship.
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Awesome, thank you.
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That's all the questions I have right now, sure.
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Okay, Roger.
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Yeah, I had mentioned procurement on it.
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What's the timeline for getting that stuff in
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or do we have any supply chain problems in that department?
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We haven't to date and it's been,
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it's usually been a matter of four to six weeks.
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I think if memory serves me right,
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by the time we're able to get somebody scheduled
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and actually doing the work.
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Reality is, once we approve this,
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then we can begin running wires,
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procure and run wires fairly quickly,
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and then from there,
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we'll get the vendor scheduled
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to install the doors and controllers.
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Thank you.
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Anything else?
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That's it.
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Okay.
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A couple of questions.
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You mentioned lockdown, Andrew,
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and I'm just curious like,
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so it sounds like if there was an event,
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And somehow some would be able to push a button or do something that would basically lock
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all the outside doors.
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Correct.
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There's two buttons that, two physical buttons that this allows us to do it use.
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And then there's also the ability to program, soft program into the system, so yes.
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And we don't have that currently.
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No, it's not built out in the same way.
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Okay. All right. And then you mentioned this part of this is going to be replacing the controller.
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And I'm curious like, is the controller that we have now, like, kind of maxed out or something in terms of numbers of doors or this is just an upgraded controller?
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It adds, so this is one of those situations and technology where we are limited by physical space, so each controller can only handle so many doors and we have to be able to add additional controllers in order to handle the doors.
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So this our current system is able to handle what we have now we just have to add additional controllers and part of that is we have to put a bigger cabinet for those electronic controllers to sit in.
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Okay, so it's adding. Okay, and we can add more. Okay, and then we've talked about this issue before.
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or, and I'm wondering, I mean, are there, are there like panels that we have out there
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today?
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They're going to be swapped out to new ones or is everything we have today still functional
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and we're just adding stuff.
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Everything we have today is still is just adding stuff that's, when we originally built out
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this system, we, we, we originally designed it with the intent of what, what we wanted
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to do county wide, not just third street wide.
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And so it's able to accommodate not only third street, but also the growth we're intending towards
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other locations as well. Okay. Good. So is the lockdown function also connected to the
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courthouse? It can be. They have they have certain functions that are built in as well. Okay.
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All right. Thank you very much. I don't have any further questions. Do we have a motion or further
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questions? Maybe one other question from the last one is just is there
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there's some sort of way to keep maybe a county commissioner that's not very technical
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logically advance from accidentally locking down the building.
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I was looking at the way he said it.
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We can absolutely support and train any county commissioner as much as necessary.
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Awesome.
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Thank you.
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With that, I'd move to approve the third street building access control systems upgrade for a total cost of 86,000, 286 dollars and 73 cents. And I will seconds. Now, we have motion, a second, any further discussion on the motion. Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Chair votes, yes, unanimous. All right. Thank you so much, Andrew. Appreciate the work you do. All right. Oak Park Ranch, Oak Park Ranch Park Project. That seems like too many parks.
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Park's. To Parkie,
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Oak Ranch RV Park project. She'll
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straighten this out. Yeah. Good morning commissioners. Allie
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Pulse to 8 Director of the Ministry of Services. Back yet
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again regarding Oak Ranch RV Park. Project. Just a little recap
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For everyone for the record, 2024,
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Wasco County received a notice of grant funding for $1 million to repair and replace the existing RV structure infrastructure at the 159 property.
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In 2026, OPRD, Oregon State Oregon Parks and Rec,
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by staff that this funding would be reallocated to another project. In the state, if we were not able,
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Wasso County was not able to get through the permitting process and become a shovel ready status
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project. To safeguard that funding, staff issued a formal RFP explicitly noting that the project
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commencement was contingent upon final project execution. Following the competitive solicitation
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process conduct under Oregon Public Contracting Code, Wastow County received two formal proposals,
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an evaluation committee independently scored the submission against the objective criteria
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established in the RFP, including qualification, cost, and project timelines. With that press
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sign construction LLC earned the highest score. On June 12th of 2026, the county issued
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a notice of a tent to award this project to Cresline and initiated the mandatory protest
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period. No formal protests were received during that statutory process and fulfilling all
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state and local procurements and we fulfilled all state and local procurement requirements.
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During the July 1st and 15th of 2026 board sessions staff presented documentation regarding
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the OPRD grant and the proposed project scope grant execution and match the board approved
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the required local match of a minimum of close to $884,900 and authorize the execution of the
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million dollar OPR D grant agreement and that was subsequently approved through the DOJ Department
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of Justice and we do have a fully executed grant agreement now with Wastow County for that amount.
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The board also reviewed four project options and selected the original proposal with which
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included a larger ADA assessable restroom, landscaping, fire pits, and picnic tables
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for a total product amount of $2,568,866 dollars.
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So based on these prior decisions, staff respectfully request the Board of County Commission take the following action.
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Approved the construction contract with Cressline Construction Company LLC in the mouth of $2,568,866 dollars.
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And also authorized Chief Administrative Officer Tyler Stone to execute necessary contract amendments and
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exchange orders within the approved project budget, a contingency in accordance with applicable
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public contracting regulations.
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Any questions?
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No.
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Looks like we're good.
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All right.
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All in favor.
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Yeah.
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Thanks.
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Just kidding.
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I did want to reiterate my position on this, which I spoke as a member of the audience and
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I'm very happy to speak as a member of the commission.
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We got a gift here.
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When we got a million dollar grant and we got the Gorge Commission approval with no objections
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from the friends and that is, you know, you're going to get that again which is why I strongly
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supported doing the maximum that we possibly could with what we were given. So, delighted to
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have that result. All right. Questions from any other questions?
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I mean, I think all of my questions have been answered.
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I'm guessing a few questions are upcoming, so we'll see if that eliciting questions
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for me.
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Okay.
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I guess I have questions.
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So no, I don't, I just, I have maybe some questions, but I just want to make sure we understand
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what we're getting into.
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So basically with this approval, we're kind of, because it's a design-build contract, they're
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All of the details are not worked out,
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meaning that all of the minutiae of specifications
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and types of toilet fixtures and all these kind of things
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are still to be worked out kind of in the process
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and working with the contractor.
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So I just want to make that clear
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that there's still lots of work to do
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and lots of, so this is a legal document
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that we're entering into with the press line,
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but that doesn't mean there's still tons
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and tons of work to do.
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So, the one question I had was related to the approval from our planning office, there
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were conditions of approval on there, and I just want to make sure that Cressline is
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well aware what those conditions are, and they've acknowledged that none of those impact
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their proposal.
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Correct.
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Okay.
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All right.
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They have received the Notice of Decision with the list of conditions.
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Okay. And then one thing, I had a question, just in their proposal, it has $30,000 for
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archaeological compliance and SHIPO coordination. So what, I guess my question slashed a little
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bit of concern, is that enough resource? I mean, not that we know, right, because we
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don't know what's going to happen. But let's say, for example, more issues run or run into
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related to that? Do they cover that or is that somehow? How do we anticipate that being resolved?
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Good question and we don't know until we're out there. However, in the notice of decision,
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there are guidelines that we have to follow based on those conditions. For instance, finding a bone
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versus finding I don't know a sphere would be two different things we would have to and there's also
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instructions on how we would have to mark that out if Cressline would have to stop
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if they can keep going and start working on a different section of the property while that was
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being investigated. Okay I guess I'm just wondering like and I'm thinking of it in the context of the
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city doing their first three project currently. And as they've entered into the project and excavated,
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they've basically essentially shut the project down for quite some time over our archaeological
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things. And there's obviously costs related to that. So I just want to I guess my question is
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if that something like that was to happen is that on the contractor, is that something that we'll
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be looking at later as a change order.
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Yeah, that would definitely be something that we would discuss with a press line once we
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get to the point that we can to press those things with press line.
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Okay.
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Because I know that in talking with them, they had a certain approach to the project that
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was going to potentially, you know, need less digging, which is usually when you have
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archaeological things.
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and I'm just curious, is that still their approach?
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Is there a approach changed yet?
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The last I spoke with Crestline last week,
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this is still their approach.
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Okay. All right.
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And then, well, so just for our properties purposes,
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I mean, you look at this,
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the biggest thing is the ADA,
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Restroom and Charif少ly.
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So obviously there's $9,000 or $41,000 in that one.
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So I think there's a lot of work to be done
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to determine kind of what that's going to look like.
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A lot of that's going to happen
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in this first phase and I think that's something that we should be aware of. So there's our first phase
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of the project which is designed so and then after design is done it comes back to us and then we
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look at it to determine is this what we wanted is this and then there'll be a price associated with
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a specific price associated with it at that point in time which we will be approving correct.
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Well, right now we're approving the yes, so we can't we will come back if that's what you would like and I can share those details with you for sure, but I mean they're going to complete that because it says right here, it says basically as you go through it, you know, there's phase one is design phase and there's a certain price to that and then construction and then it's contingent on county approval. So I'm assuming it will come back to us to make a decision about yes, we're moving forward with this design.
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Is that right?
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Well, that's why I asked if it was-
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Listen, saying yes.
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You guys are like waffling.
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Okay.
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We're going to approve this.
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You know, approve it again when it comes back to us.
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So in the re-gaming Tyler, I'm asking for Tyler to have some authority to make those decisions
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and change orders as those things progress.
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Okay. And I would see that more when we get into the construction phase.
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but I think between now and the end of design,
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I guess my personal position would be,
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I want to see what they come up with the design.
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I want to see what they come up with the hard costs
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and all that kind of stuff.
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So we can make decisions on whether we support that or not.
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I mean, we can be involved.
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I don't want to say wait till then and then show a toast
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and then whatever.
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But I think that's an important component for us
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to kind of say, okay, we're still good to go.
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I mean, for example, if you came back and it was 3.7 million, they were proposing 3.7 million like now, but if it comes back and instead of 2.8, it's, you know, 1.97, who knows, I mean there's a lot of stuff that can happen in that process.
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I'd be happy to bring about.
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Okay, that's what I would prefer.
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Sounds good.
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Yeah.
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Sounds good to me.
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Okay, all right.
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All right, that's all I had.
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Anybody have anything else?
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No, I think if they come back with a design with Orange and Purple Stripes on it, we'll
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probably turn that down.
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So, maybe we'll swap the option, please, we'll, indeed.
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Okay.
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Do we have a motion?
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I'd move to approve the construction contract with Questline Construction Company LLC in the
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amount of $2,568,866 in authorized chief administrative officer Tyler Stone to approve
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necessary change orders to the original contract based on the Crestline constructions final design.
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I will definitely second that. All right, motion a second. Any further discussion?
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Hearing none, all those in favor? Hi. Chair votes, yes, unanimous. All right,
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thanks. Thank you. Thank you for having me, Sally. Yeah, I know it's been a lot.
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and it's not over yet okay we are going to why don't we we can quickly do the EDC
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appointments since Andrew's here and I'm sure you probably don't want to stay
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until for the rest of our meeting so Andrew welcome what are we got here good
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morning commissioners Andrew Danies I'm deputy director of my head I also staff
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the Bosque County Economic Development Commission the request in front of you
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this morning is for an appointment to the EDC. This is for position 6, which is
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reserved for chambers of commerce. Historically Lisa Farquharson from the
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Dallas area chamber of commerce has been in that position however she
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retired this summer and so we're asking to appoint her replacement.
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Replacement, we're requesting is Lynn Cox, who is the new Dalles area chamber CEO.
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Lynn is a Dalles native.
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She grew up here, moved to the Portland area where she enjoyed a nearly 25-year career at Intel, moved back with her husband last summer to become the tourism director of Explore the Dalles.
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and then when Lisa retired this summer, Lynn was promoted to become the new
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Dallas area chamber CEO and so we're requesting that she's appointed to the
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remainder Lisa's term which runs through December 31st, 2028. All right. Very
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good questions for Andrew. No, it sounds like an absolute positive move. So thanks
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for that. Yeah. I think it's great. I'm going to make the assumption since she filled it out
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that she's willing to do this. That is correct. Yes. Yes. Yeah. No. Thank you. I'd appreciate it.
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All right. I have no questions. The motion. All right. I'll move to a point order number 26-035.
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Appointing ring calls to the Waskow County Economic Development Commission representing City of
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Chair votes.
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Yes.
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Thank you so much, Andrew.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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We are right on time.
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We're a minute late.
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Actually, we're going to go on to our outdoor mass gathering permit for the harvest festival.
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And I'm going to read the script.
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The public hearing is now open for the purpose of considering planning file number 921-26-000042
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PLNG, a request for outdoor mask gathering permit for
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An agricultural and education event, which includes games, music called Harvest Festival, 2026, 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. on August 28th through August 30th, 2026, with attendees up to 2,500, including staff and volunteers. The hearing would be open to public testimony. The procedure we're going to follow is the planning division will present the staff report and recommendation. Police fire road, emergency building codes and health officials may provide comments
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and recommendations, the applicant may provide a presentation if they choose to do so.
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The public including technical, not sure what technical is, but will be able to provide
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testimony in favor and in opposition.
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The applicant will have an opportunity to rebut other testimony, then the board will deliberate
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and make a motion for approval or denial.
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Let's start with the disclosure of interest, that's part a contact and potential conflict.
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Does any commissioner wish to disqualify themselves for any personal or financial interests in this matter?
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Not me, let me know where I. Does any commissioner wish to report any significant x-pay partay or pre-hearing contacts?
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All right, neither am I.
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Staff contact is not x-partay. It does not need to be disclosed. Will staff please present their report?
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You can introduce yourself guys.
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Thank you, Chair and Commissioners. Good morning, everyone.
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I'm Flueh Eckerd. I'm Dustin Williams, Associate Planner,
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Bosco County Planning Division. March 17th, 2026,
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Bosco County Planning Division received a request for an outdoor mass
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gathering from applicant Anthony Stelzer. This application was processed and
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reviewed using applicable standards from our outdoor mass gathering ordinance,
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22-003. In this process, Moscow County Planning Division staff has been the liaison between
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applicant and the applicable fire, police, health, and road safety technical experts.
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All right, the request is to permit an agricultural and education event titled the
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Harvest Festival 2026. The date of the event is August 8th through August 30th, 2026.
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This year, a maximum attendance is going to be at 2,500, including staff and volunteers.
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And this is located off of Duffer Valley Road, Southwest of Duffer, which we'll show you the map.
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So it's out number 10010. It's 29.5 acre tax plot, and it's in the exclusive form use agricultural zone.
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All right.
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So, we have a site plan that shows overall layout of the event. Access is going to be provided
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by Dufour Valley and Wolfrun Roads with entrances and exits shown in red. They'll have a single paved
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driveway that's going to be reserved for the first responders to ensure quick access.
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There are some emergency water locations depicted with the red hydrant.
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The purple is depicting children's activities, blue is depicting vendor location, yellow
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depicts bathroom, hand-washing and waste collection locations, orange is the check-in booth where
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they're going to tally the number of attendees, brown depicts the speaker tent, demo tent and
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and food tent location and there is a red star there depicts the emergency gathering location.
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The event parking is depicted on the west side there with car symbols with the parking sign there.
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Here's just a list of the criteria that we look at when we go through the application and the conditions of approval.
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The criteria concerns requisite state laws pertaining to health safety and welfare.
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Basically, just outlining our notification process, March 17th, 2026 application was submitted
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to the Wasco County Planning Division.
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As I said, on May 21st, 2026, we provided that application to relevant agencies.
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There's a list there.
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on July 21st notice a public hearing was mailed out to surrounding landowners and other
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applicable agencies and on July 22nd, 2026, there was a notice in the newspaper, Columbia
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Gorge News, for the hearing today.
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So just to go over quickly some of the comments, we obviously we send this out to experts and
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some comments we get back for review criteria that might be outside of our ordinance.
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In this case, we did have some review criteria regarding an RV park license.
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So real quickly, this was June 17th.
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We had building codes, Kylie Van Orman.
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She made some comments in relation to an RV park license that was going to be required.
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Just to go over real quickly, the comments were we would need a detailed site map like we
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do for permanent parks, showing a 10 foot space in requirement between RVs and tents as
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as well as setbacks from property lines and other structures, sites would also need
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to be identified and somehow marked off like by spray paint.
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We would need to see access for campers and emergency responders if there are not camp
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ground roads, they do need to develop them, but they do not need to develop them, but they
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need to show the proposed pass of travel.
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We will need to make sure that Wade from OSFM has a chance to comment on the park.
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They must show adequate toilet facilities and trash containers not only for the RB campers, but for the festival goers.
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I do not have authority over anything, but the number of toilets and trash cans for the RV park.
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So those were the comments.
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We're basically where the applicant has been engaged in that process of getting the applicable permits with building codes as of today.
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So they're still going through that process.
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And I might understand that there will be an inspection.
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at some point. Okay, so the next comment, those relevant, comes from North Central Public
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Health, Polyglondale. On July 10th, she made comments in relation to the RV Park License
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and Food Vendor License. It's basically, we connected with her on Wednesday and provide
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the application materials for both the RV Park License and the temporary event, Food Vendor
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license, clarify that Oregon Administrative Rule, OAR-333-031, does not define a temporary
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RV park. Any park establish for use, whether temporary or permanent, still requires a public
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health license. We're working with her now on the application so that once building
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cause the proof of the RV park plan, we can move her through our process quickly.
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Regarding food service, we explained to Bethany that even though food would be paired at the
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farm stand kitchen and transported to the event site serving food at a separate location
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requires a temporary event license through us. We're moving her through the application
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process now. So she's ready by the event date. And again, our understanding is that she's
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or they are applicant Bethany has been in talks with getting those appropriate permits
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through public health. So we'll move on to next slide here. Water.
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So, we didn't have any new comments from the water master for this year, but we did have
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a comment last year.
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I think it's still relevant when it comes to the amount of water.
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Water is actually something that's regulated by our ordinance for the OMG.
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And this is not something that really came from an outside entity.
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But his comment last year was from a water perspective, but consider this a commercial
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so they can use a maximum of 5,000 gallons per day
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from the well without a water right.
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In addition to the bottle water provided by the farm stand,
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they may need to have Bishop's annotation
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provided additional potable water,
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given the number of people attending.
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That was his comment.
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If we go to the next slide here,
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we can see our requirements at the top there.
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These have changed slightly this year
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because there are a number of attendees
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went from 1500 to 2500.
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So the math is basically 12 gallons of drinking water per person per day.
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That's 30,000 gallons in this case, and then it does ask for storage facilities for
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a minimum of 5 gallons of drinking water per person per day.
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That comes out to be 12,500 gallons, and an amount of drinking water equal to one day usage
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and reserve, which would be 30,000 gallons.
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So, they provided that they're going to have potable water from two sources, the well
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water, as the water master indicated, you get 5,000 per day out of that.
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And then they're going to have multiple pallets of water.
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They do have a couple other additional sources of what I think we would consider non-potable
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water reservoir, which has more than enough water for non-drinking purposes, fire safety,
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hand-washing sanitation, things like that. I'm sure that could be used for that.
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And then an on-site water truck with 2,000 gallons is the plan this year again.
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So, you know, ultimately, that's the deficiency in the application respect to the on-site
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portable water. They're not quite meeting that number.
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Last year's event, we were able to get a variance basically from the board and respect to that.
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And so this year's event would also require that.
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The only difference is the amount of people has increased.
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So we go to that slide here.
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So this is just approval criteria.
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This is where we go over this kind of your authority to approve or deny.
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B is kind of important.
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This is where we consider, you know, you may consider and require an applicant to comply with a condition submitted by public officials.
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So this is where we get things like the RV park that comes in.
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And you guys can consider that information even though it's outside of our ordinance.
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Alright, go to the next slide then.
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So your options are to approve the application except the proposed conditions.
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approve the application with amended findings and conditions, deny the application with
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amended findings that the request does not comply with applicable health and safety
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regulations, contain in our ordinance. If additional information is needed, keep the evidence
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record open and continue to hear into date and time certain to allow the submit all of additional
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information or close the evidence record and continue to hear into a date and time certain
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allow the submittal of additional information. So at this point you just take questions,
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we may have some technical experts that can talk about some other things if they're here.
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Okay, very good. Questions of staff at this point.
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Is there like an after event review that you guys do for just have knowledge and follow up
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like after last year's event to kind of see how things went and so forth.
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Yeah, we do get comments after the event occasionally.
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Those go into the record and that's just something that definitely can make an impact
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on future recommendations for that event if there's negative feedback, maybe other things
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to address, even positive feedback, if that's what we were to get, it'd be great.
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We would definitely have those lines of communication open well after the event and include in our record
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Any of the comments. That's what we do this whole process is kind of
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Tally and keep track of all the different entities and all the different things that might come in and it all comes through us
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So we can keep a record and do you recall after last year's event with what were were the comments?
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Yeah positive or is there some negative was their concern about the water?
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It was quiet, so we didn't receive any comments in any way, which is good.
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So we didn't hear that there was any issue with the variance they received last year about
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the water.
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I think the general consensus was 12 gallons of water per person was a little more than
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most people would think anyone could drink.
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We didn't get any comments back about any negative aspect of that.
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I would agree that no comments is usually good because I found that people are more likely
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to comment on negative things than give positive feedback, but that's on lots of things.
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And there's no, I didn't see in here and I'm going to make the assumption again that some
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of the special events, some of these outdoor mask gathering events that we've looked
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that include something to do with approving on fire, approving fire works, that sort of thing,
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and there's nothing in here regarding fire or fireworks. I assume that they're very opposed to
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fire at this point at the end of August. Yeah, we did not receive any comment from fire, but that
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Now as large as I'm sure, in part, there was really nothing to consider that as far as
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the event itself, other than just the people there, making sure he had good ways in and
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out.
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Obviously, the event of a fire is important, regardless if you have a fire works, but yeah,
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nothing like that in the application, no birdie, have anything.
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Okay.
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That's all I have at the moment.
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All right.
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Roger, you have anything?
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Yeah, a couple of things. Well, it's similar on the fire. I was a little concerned because it said they hadn't consulted with any fire department, but also said that we do not allow any campfires or smoking plan to have easy water.
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Access. So, yeah, it would be nice if there were at least some consultation in my line, but if we've had good experience in the past and we've not had any problems, we can probably go ahead with this. Yeah, we certainly, you know, provide the application to the fire experts locally there and had not received any comment back. Okay. That's good to know. Yeah. Thank you. Anything else, brother? No, that's it. Okay. Um, how about on that team point, like law enforcement, so diverse, I mean, our sheriff's office, he looked at it, they experienced it.
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last year. Did they have any comments at all? Yeah, nothing. He asked Elaine asked if he needed to be
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here for this one. You didn't have any comments. So I said, you know, this feeling optional. So yeah,
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an opportunity to really make any mention. And we had not heard that there were any issues. Okay.
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Very good. Okay. Um, just one other comment. I will note that looking through the application in
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the, in the packet. I appreciate all the emails showing that you reached out to all these entities
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and gave them the opportunity, so like there was, I just passed that to the Department of Forestry.
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There was, back in May, there was a request to fill out and that sort of thing,
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so everybody had their opportunity.
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So again, I assume silence is kind of approval versus if somebody had the concerns
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they would have made it a priority.
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None of these people are bashful and they would have spoken up.
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Yeah, big part of our process here is getting in contact with the experts and allowing
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them to, you know, processing that, you know, allow that to go to the record.
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So I just wanted to add a comment that these people have been really good neighbors for nothing
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else.
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Opening up a grocery store downtown the Dels.
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Thank you so much.
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Okay, I stay there, gentlemen, and we're going to ask if there's any additional comments
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that police, fire, road, emergency, building codes, or public health officials, which
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are brought.
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Is there anybody here from any of those entities and do they have any comments?
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I don't see anybody in the room.
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How about online?
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I see
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Kylee's here, but she made comments already.
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Is there anybody here?
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Okay.
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Okay. Alright, we're going to assume there's no other comments from those folks. How about
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we're going to go to the applicant or their representatives and do you wish to present
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anything as well?
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Okay, Bethany, so you are able, I think you have to unmute yourself.
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Hold on,
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we're working on something.
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There we go. I think you're good to go, Bethany.
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Yeah, so I just want to thank Dustin and everybody's help for getting this permit and applications
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put through and getting all the details. I know this time we had a few more departments,
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you know, with the RV parking lot situation and the different things and it's been really great
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having everybody's help. So I just appreciate everybody making it possible.
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All right, did you have any
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any comments on anything that was presented today, any issues?
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No, I didn't want to mention two.
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We'll have our security team,
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Rover security out of Permiston.
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They're going to be bringing a team of four up here
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to help with that.
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We didn't have any incidents last year,
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but I like being prepared.
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And so they also have, you know, just first response training
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and things like that, so we should be well prepared.
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Okay, did you have any comments on the water situation at all because basically it looks
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like the application is not meeting the minimum water requirements and last year we made
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an exception. Is that right Dustin? Yeah. Okay, it was like 12 gallons. It's a lot of water.
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It is a lot of water. So I'm curious Bethany, if you like your experience, what was your experience
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last year and what is your expectation this year and anything else for us?
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Well I'll be honest I don't want to waste water. It's my thing. So last year we had our
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5000 gallons from the well plus we had bottled water. I'm going to do the same thing this year
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and I can buy as much bottled water as we need. Last year we had a lot left over because still
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many people brought their own water and so I kind of plan on just again playing that by ear. We're
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it's ready for people and we can buy more in very easily throughout the event as needed.
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But last year, what we had was sufficient and we actually had quite a bit left over.
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Okay, very good.
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I was at a meeting yesterday actually and it heard that there is no bowel water to speak
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of in Madras because of the issues happening in Warm Springs.
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So there is a bit of a shortage in certain areas, so just be aware of that, I guess.
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I don't assume you're going to matters for water, but...
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No.
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Okay. All right. Anything else for us, Bethany?
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No, thank you.
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If they may want to join us for the higher special, we'd love to see you commissioners there this year.
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Okay. Thank you very much.
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I think we are going to go to public testimony.
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Any anybody that wants to testify on this application is now welcome to do so either in the rule started in the room
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Does anybody have any comments in the room and if we do we'll move these guys out but stay there to see if we do have anybody
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Any comments in the room
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Anybody might kill Kenny thought you're going to comment on this. Okay. All right
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Very good anybody online. All
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right anybody online just raise your hand
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All right. We didn't have any testimony, so you don't have to rebut anything at all unless you want to make something up.
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All right. Very good. Okay. Since there's no further testimony, I'm going to close the public testimony portion of the hearing and open deliberations of the board.
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So gentlemen, do we have any additional comments or questions for staff?
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I think past experience has been very good and I think that's what we should go ahead with this.
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Okay. Yeah, I agree.
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And as I was sitting here, I put it on my calendar to try to go out and check things out and enjoy it.
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But I think the few comments that I heard about it last year,
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if I'm remembering right we're very positive and so yeah and I'm glad Bethany actually brought
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it up because going through my mind was that the water on site it relies its requirements and
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that sort of thing but I typically also take my own water if I'm going someplace like that so my
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guess is if you add the extra water that the people that are camping bring or the people having
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their cars that are just there for the day. You get a lot closer to that number of gallons, but
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I'm pretty comfortable that it's not an issue for them. Okay, and they're not so far away from
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do-for-or-the-else that they couldn't, again, go get some. How many gallons a day per person?
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Is it 12? So 12 gallons? You drink 12 gallons a day of water? I should drink more than I drink, but
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that I don't drink 12 gallons.
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I can't even imagine drinking 12 gallons a day,
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but is that the recommended daily dose or something?
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That's an OAR from...
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I know.
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They didn't see it, but yeah, it's a lot.
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It is a lot.
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Or do you enjoy a festival?
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I could have that.
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Yeah, you've got water in case.
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For now, much time.
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You've got to know that maybe they need more.
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They've got a swimming pool.
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I mean, really?
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Okay.
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Any other questions of staff?
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Is I have a question in terms of like one of the motions is to approve order the order and is the order in here address the water situation and the fact that we're making an exception?
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The point we need to do that separately last
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year. I think it was just read into the decision as a variance. Sorry for the record.
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Sean Bailey, Senior Planner, Wasco County Planning, but I believe we just adjusted the draft
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order language after because it came up during the presentation last year and this year we could
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just do the same thing. It's on the record at least that we've talked about it. But if we also,
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I think just stayed at the end that that's included along with the approval that that covers it,
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but we could also change the draft order language before it's signed as well.
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Okay, very good. Just want to make sure we hit that item. So if you choose to do so, you could just note for the record that we would approve the variance of the water based on the discussion we had here today.
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Yep. Okay. And based on the proposal, I guess. That's what they propose. Okay. All right. I don't have any other questions. Any other questions for you guys?
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Do you have a motion if there's no more questions?
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I might move to approve order 26-036 for an outdoor mask gathering for a hard-to-specable
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20-26 from August 28 to 30 of 20-26 is proposed in Flanagan file number 921-26-0000042-PLAG
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and accept the findings and conditions contained in the summary and staff report with approval
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the proposed variants for required drinking water.
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Second.
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All right.
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I have a motion approval.
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Any discussion on the motion?
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Very well said.
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I have to put it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I would just say I wish them well.
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I think it will be a great event.
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I think it was as well last year or so.
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All right.
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I'll call for the question.
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All those in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Chair votes.
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Yes, unanimous.
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We have approved it.
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Thank you for coming.
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Thank you for working on this.
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goes. Thanks, Bethany. Thank you, staff. Thank you.
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Okay. We are moving on to the ASP Fossil
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Reaffirmation of ASA Provider Contract Sheridan. Are you here? Oh, they're right here.
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He's even in person. I was hiding in the back. I hope we're not to be noticed until now.
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Good morning, commissioners. Sheridan MacLeodan. I was going to mention it.
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Thanks for having me. I'm here to request the re-evaluation of the contact with Faisal
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Ambulance that covers ASA 6. I don't know how it's good, so I've analoged with Faisal
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Ambulance.
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All right, and I think we got some new information last night, which I think was just modifications
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to what was in the packet. Is that right?
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Okay, so what were the changes in the new information on the date when the product starts? Okay. Okay. Do you know they're fighting by us? Yeah, that's the problem. So they all.
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Yes, yes, they are. So are we. Okay. Any questions for Sheridan on this item?
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They're currently providing the service, is that correct?
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Yes, they are providing service again.
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Okay.
[57:19]
I think Jefferson County was covering for them.
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Are they?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Makes sense.
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Yeah, I don't have any other questions.
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Any questions?
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Yes.
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Good news.
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I think all around.
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Good news.
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Okay.
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Do we have a motion?
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I move to approve the Reaffirmation of the Contracor Act, assigning West Coo County Enderland
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Service Area ASA, number six, comprising the John Day Recreation Area to the City of
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Fossil.
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Second motion.
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All right.
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We have motion in a second.
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Any discussion?
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Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
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All right.
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Chair votes.
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Yes, unanimous.
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That was easy, huh?
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Yeah.
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Well, since we're ahead of schedule and we have a little time, can you give us a quick update
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on fires since you are emergency manager? As we all know, there made quite a bit of
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progress on southern and then south-eastern climate. I think the last I heard was that
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cost me 19 percent contained which is better on high-polar sportsman's farm,
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longing dead area. What did you say? How much contained? The last one was 19 percent. It's probably
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a lot more than now. Okay, you're saying 90? 19. 19, oh yeah. I thought you should do
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And I was like wow, that's pretty good.
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Contain on that area, but not very well contained another.
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So, okay, gotcha.
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So, with that information,
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we lower the evacuation levels
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for kind of a low warming and sportsmen's park.
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Okay.
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However, we still have several level three zones
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that impacts several folks in the fancy area.
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So, in that, we need the service guard, the NS27,
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that tends to affect me, I believe,
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And that's still kind of ongoing on the north and northeast, as well as the west portion.
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It still may happen in the Stockholm.
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Okay. They've still got lots of resources out there.
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And apparently knock it out.
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Let me describe.
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Okay.
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When you saw the evacuation was reduced for if pine hull was it reduced to two level two.
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Okay. Okay.
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Okay. Everything else remains the same. Okay. Yeah, I was up on Highway 35 yesterday and
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it was a lot of activity on Highway 35 because I think the fire was heading towards Highway 35.
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I think I think Mounted Meadows is still under level three and I think there's a lot of level three
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on that side. Is that correct? That is correct. And they must probably be neat.
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Standing bells, level 3 zones, and possibly a blowdown, I wait 35, depending on whether 5.5 is now, or the footprint. They have a meeting this morning, and some effect right now, so we'll be able to get those answers to you. Okay, do they in the report in the meeting this morning, they talk about weather and is the weather going to is the wind going to change at all? Like I said, they're going to have to make the meeting at 10 o'clock.
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for the evacuation and 10.30 for the coverage of this meeting. So I'll have a
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commission for you and I can update all of you on that. Okay. I know that yesterday on the
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corporates meeting yesterday, the weather report was higher temperatures and a little bit lighter
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winds and the winds like there was Easterlies the last couple of days and the winds are supposed
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to kind of die down today and part of tomorrow and then change back to the normal
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westerlies and still load amid 90s through the weekend. They died for the rest of the week,
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come to the end of the day, so it's not very good on the RH. And when pattern, as you said,
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it was easily and I think shifting back to the westerly, so you'll see it with itself.
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Okay. Yeah, it was also not a question of the fire to the north and to the west.
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And yes, that name. Okay. Yeah, it was down to 26 as well in government camp and there was
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a lot of activity down there. People becoming very nervous that the which had seemed crazy, like,
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you know, a week ago that the fire would be heading that way because it wasn't really heading that way
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at all before and then it like turned around and started going the other direction.
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That's correct. And as you all probably know, there's clackiness actually has now some
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evacuation levels as well. So this is going to be a not out clean counting fire.
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Yep. I should note that watch duty shows one of the fires actually crossing 35
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and the farther north. So I don't know what that's which how much that information is. But that was
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just put out just a few hours ago, so.
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Well, if you guys are updated, I don't have that there.
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Okay, yeah.
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That's disappointing.
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There was no fire by 35 when I drove through yesterday afternoon, so.
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Yeah.
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That's disappointing.
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Okay.
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Very good.
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Anything else, Sheridan?
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I have anything else.
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I don't have any other questions.
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We're getting lots of rest lately.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Thanks for being here, Sheridan.
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All right.
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Moving on, we will go to the GIS modernization IGA with Polt County, TICO.
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You're with us virtually, right?
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Virtually, yes.
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Yes, I don't, I try not to go outside of it enough.
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There's a dog right behind you.
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Yeah, yeah, I've got to have my pit bull.
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Welcome.
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Thank you.
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So, our GIS web applications are all running on legacy software.
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Database is 14 years old, and it's no longer supported by Microsoft.
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Our primary GIS software won't even attach to modern day databases, which is becoming a problem.
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A few months back we received a grant that bought us a new database and hardware to put it on.
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The grant we're getting now is going to have the vendor help us put it all together because the upgrade and architectural changes are complicated.
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I've been able to do that in the past, but it's kind of a shoestring and bubble gum thing.
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with as many as they should be able to have us do it the correct way.
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Grant such that we have access to them for 10 hours for $8,140
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and then the state reimburses for that amount.
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And then once we've got that done, there's a second part of that project
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which is getting parcel fabric, which is a completely different part of the system to work nicely with the rest of the architecture.
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And that part, the parcel fabric is what Ivan is actually doing now for architectural maintenance.
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And this will bring him up to doing modern, modern methods and standard business practices.
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So that will make a little lot more efficient for him.
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With Polk County 1, all I need is for you guys to sign an IGA.
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And Polk County deals with the financials and the rest of that.
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they can just start working with us with the S3 purchase for S3. Well, we just need,
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you know, I need your blessing to get a PO from Finance. And then I can start running
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off of that one.
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Pretty much the start date on this is going to be as soon as the ink's
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in the paper
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and the minimal thing here is the GISD suite upgraded. Do we have
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fountain fundings and we need your blessing?
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Okay. Thank you. Can you maybe just
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before you start? So can you just kind of go over the what's the total cost we're
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looking at here? It looks like there's a couple elements. Our cost is going to be
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staff time. Okay. And then the sending the PO to this vendor and the state
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reimbursing us via that PO. I don't know how finance does that. They just send
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the PO and when we get the money from the state, pass that on or if finance
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send the money first. I don't know how it works. So it's basically grant, this project is more
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less grant funded, correct? Yeah, yeah. The only thing we're doing is sending our staff time.
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Okay, very good. Other questions for Tyco? I think my only question is the Polk County IGA is just,
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you said I believe in just looking through it. Just the technical assistance because they're using
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because some of our information is outdated or some of the sports outdated and they're using the more current stuff so it's just technical assistance from them.
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Yeah, the the ormaps that the parts of fabric stuff is the same software but sort of a different program so it's used differently.
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So it just takes different tech, different techs to help us get a setup, right?
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And I don't see any financial things in there.
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So Polk County is just doing this to be helpful.
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And like you said, the cost for us is in that.
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And for them it's just staff time, but there's no money changing hands.
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Right.
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Polk County is going to get paid, but that's all on their end.
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Yeah, we don't deal with the finance on that at all.
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Got it.
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I think that's all I have.
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Pink, Roger?
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Yeah, I have a question because I ran the discrepancy on page 178 of our over 200, one.
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It says that services from ESRI to install and configure ArcGIS Enterprise 12.1, then you
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down to page 187 and it mentions version 11.5. I wonder if that's an error if I'm just missing something.
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That's an error. It's taken me about nine months to actually get all the documentation together.
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I'm slow with this stuff and when I first started running it it was 11.5. Now it's actually
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to 12.5. Okay, I just want to make sure we get that motion correct on that. So yeah.
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All right. Other questions? I did. As you know, Taiko, I was back in New Orleans and had quite a
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quite a long several discussions with Esri about this. And they gave me some great ideas. And,
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of course, I sent them to you and you like most of our staff is like, why do we send them these
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conferences? I'm not the stuff you can do. So, Esri was there basically saying all the amazing
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you do with GIS and all the stuff that counties are doing. So I thought I had some great ideas that I'm
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we'll talk asking FICO to do. Okay. Any other questions for Tyco? And if that do we have a motion?
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I move to approve the as required number PO22661 and the Polk County Intergovernmental
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Agreement to GIS services allowing the county proceed with both grant and funded projects.
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second. All right, we motion a second any further discussion. Hearing none, all those
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in favor say aye. Aye. Chair votes yes, unanimous. Hey, Taniko, before you go, is any, anything
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that we're talking about here is the public when they look at our GIS? Will they see anything
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different or will things change for them? It'll look a lot different. Okay. It'll run a lot
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better. Okay. The conversion part is actually probably going to be done in like two weeks. Okay.
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Um, it's going to take another good six months from me and Jamie to get everything converted over
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to where the public sees it. Okay. So the public won't see any changes really until about six months
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from now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Internal staff will start seeing it before them. But okay. Yeah. There's
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And I just wanted to comment, I have used that map a lot in my reporting days, and I've
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thought it incredibly valuable.
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So any improvements to that are going to be welcomed.
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It's amazing.
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The system, I mean, many most counties actually have it, Esri basically was saying that there's
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not a county in the United States that doesn't use Esri.
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But it is a lot of information, and I think a lot of people don't understand.
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It's out there and don't understand how to use it.
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And sometimes I wonder, like, do we, if somebody goes on GS, is there something there that says,
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here's a quick tutorial about how to use it? Do we have anything like that, or is there anything
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like that available? Tyco? We did have a how to use PDF at one point. I think in the last web pages
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just redo that that file got lost somewhere.
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Be honest, it's on the list to do.
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Okay, cool.
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Well, he suggests is when you get,
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when you and Jamie get this ready to kind of roll out,
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could maybe we could you schedule some time here
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and kind of roll it out to the commissioners
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and then everybody can kind of see it at once
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whenever you get to that point.
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Okay, we'll do that.
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That would be awesome.
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I would appreciate that,
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and I'm sure, what else are there?
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Sure.
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Come on.
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All right.
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Thanks so much for being there, Tyco.
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Thanks for the work that you do.
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Thank you, guys.
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All right.
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I'm moving on to our last item on our agenda day,
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which is the Waska County Landfill MOU Tyler Stone
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and some gentleman named Arthur Smith.
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Come on down, Arthur.
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He's the one in general's in connection.
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I think.
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Wow.
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I hope he wanted to take it any other way.
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It says you're lucky to me.
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Thank you.
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Good morning.
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I'll start this introduction on this particular topic.
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I'm not going to read you everything that's in your packet because it pretty well summarizes it.
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But what I will say is looking back over many years, maybe even decades.
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There has been a lot of conversation around five mile road and steel road.
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and truck traffic on that road and safety and there's been a lot of discussion about it.
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I know we've had conversations with ODOT about it, Commissioner Kramer, I think has had
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federal senators out there looking at it, Arthur has done a ton of work around this and so
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So what we're doing today and what we've been working on with waste connections is coming
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up with a memorandum of understanding essentially to work together to solve this long-standing
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problem.
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And so I'm going to say there's kind of two aspects.
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So there's an internal aspect which is an impact to Arthur's department with the roads.
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and our ability to maintain those roads and the longevity of those roads with this heavy truck
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traffic that we see going back and forth from the landfill. And so we spend quite a bit of maintenance
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money every year. Arthur, if my memory serves me right, it's like upwards of 50,000 years to keep
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that road at a level to be able to handle that. And I think panel are through talk about this,
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but I don't know that it's going to support that going long into the future, even with kind
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of our current maintenance area. And then the second piece of this is really external. So we've
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had lots of communication with residents that live on these roads with others around safety
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and, you know, the ability for people to navigate those roads when there's also big heavy
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traffic coming. There's lots of corners, there's lots of elevation and, you know, those all
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will lead to a conversation around safety.
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And then finally, the intersection at one night.
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7 and the challenges we have right there on a curb with truck traffic moving slowly as they're starting or stopping and the speed of folks traveling on 97. So, a lot of those things are not a good mix. So to speak. And so, but of the last few months, we've been talking with waste connections or partnered on how do we
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We, how do we address some of those concerns?
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And so what you have in your packet today is just a memorandum understanding.
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It's not a binding document by any means, but it it's setting out the roles that the
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county and waste connections will play in a discussion around how do we make this circumstance
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that exists today better for the landfill, better for citizens and a safer, safer aspect, and so that's what we're talking about.
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One of those scenarios in this is potentially reciting a new private road into the landfill.
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So that would be taking all of that truck traffic off of five-minutes steel roads, or at least most of it, and moving that to a different access.
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Obviously building roads is not a easy undertaking, because one, it's expensive to you, private land owners, and then three will want to make those conditions better than what they are.
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today. And so that's one of the scenarios that we're talking about is how do we set a different
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access to get that truck traffic off. And that's going to take a lot of work by both waste connections
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and Arthur in the public works department to be able to do that. And then kind of my last caveat,
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because I know the current chatter out there is going to say this is an
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anticipation for 250 trucks a day from Gortland Harbor cleanup and I will say
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this has not crossed our radar screens for this particular project. This has been
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a conversation that has been in play now for a number of years and it has
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nothing, absolutely nothing to do with Portland Harbor cleanup. It has everything to do with
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the safety on these roads and the road maintenance piece of it. So that conversation has been
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in the pipeline for a long time and this is what's in front of you today, normalizing that
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That agreement that we're going to work together to try to solve these issues.
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And I'll turn it over to Arthur if you want to add anything to that.
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Arthur Smith, Public Works Director, Waska County.
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I guess it depends on what the commission wants.
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So this project, this is actually one of the first capital improvement projects I worked
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on my early career as an engineer tech one at Wasco County. So the design of this existing
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road actually started in 1993 and it was designed under 1993 standards and was finished
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construction in 1994. And then we had some floods and some other events. So as you can
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well-imagined. Which road are you talking about? 5 mile road. Sorry, 5 mile road. Do you
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start a design of the new road? No, this is the exit road. I thought I was
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existing. So it's this thing around. 5 mile and steel is actually in. So it's a
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93-94 vintage. Another standard design. It was extraordinarily good. But as you
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can well-imagined the size and capacity of vehicles now have changed and expanded
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And we want to get better and smarter and you add more axles.
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So anyway, it's exacerbated obviously the condition of the road and the capacity.
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The other thing kind of hampering it is, there is now a severely load limited bridge on
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the steel road side.
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So if something happened on Highway 197-5 on my side, you could not route those vehicles
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even in an absolute emergency because of the strict limitation that we basically have a
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one lane bridge and steel road, it could not take those 80,000 to 110,000, it's just not
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going to happen. So there's a lot of issues there that it's just been building over time.
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The existing intersection, I think we've met, I mean, we may have met 20 or 30 times with
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ODOT representatives of all shapes and sizes to look at the intersection. That hasn't gotten
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cheaper. I do remember because I was there after the floods in 96, we were kind of recovering
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between 1998 and 2001, I think we had five different meetings, and we actually proposed
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the county at that time, proposed the same sort of thing, a memorandum of understanding
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with the landfill to try to improve, could we at least improve the intersection, because
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the intersection, again, has been an issue for a long time, and at that time we were not
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able to come to any of the agreement, mostly because it had to be built to state standards
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with this and that and the other and had to be under boldly and it just killed the whole idea.
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So right now I think the price tag of just improving the intersection is north of 15 to 20 million.
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So we thought hey maybe we should look at because if you take that 15 or 20 million and
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perhaps use it in another area you know you might be able to get a better solution as opposed to
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just making improvements to an existing intersection and then still having the majority of the route
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unimproved. So I'm pretty excited about the possibility. It's like I said when you're
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talking about, when you don't have 100% control over acquisitions or building, it becomes
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something, it could never happen. So you guys know, this could honestly come to no fruition
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at all. But it's obviously worth pursuing. And that's where we're at.
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And for any of those who haven't stood out on Highway 197 in the morning watching the activity
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out there, it's something you should do because it's definitely a challenging intersection
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at different times of the day.
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And if you do wear your safety vest for God's sake, yeah, seriously, go ahead a couple of
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questions.
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I'm assuming that if this were to go through that the waste manager would pay for the construction or the county would build it or would they hire private contractors?
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So what we're moving towards is this would be a private room or waste connections.
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they would build that they were donate and it was maintained as well but to that end it's a big
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enough deal for safety reasons and for the reasons that are talked about on steel road and five
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long road that the county is helping right and so the county is going to take the lead in working
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with ODOT. We are taking the lead and looking at different, I don't know, the right terminology
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is Arthur, but pathways for new road.
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Oh, and our design, yeah. So our surveyor is out there looking at the ground and the elevation and
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working on looking where a suitable path to put that room at.
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And so we're doing that work.
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And Arthur's certainly providing technical expertise as well as part of this.
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We're doing the design.
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I'm going to wait you answer that because I don't know how much of that we are aren't.
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Yeah, a lot of that will depend on what we can do in house.
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So, again, we're going to, there's some things that are easily in our wheelhouse, like
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coordinating with our partners at the Oregon Department of Transportation, I mean, things
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of that, you know, because there's access and ingress and egress offered to the state
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highway. We have to get anything has to be offered to the state highway. So that's, again,
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easy. It's staff time, things of that nature. Again, working with Brad Cross and Alex and
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even Ivan in the surveyors office to try to find different options that we could use, get
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from a safer point A to point B. Again, that's more staff time and we're willing, that's
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kind of a, we're willing to conduct that. If it came to actual surveying or designing
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or getting stamped engineering plans, I think that's a different conversation because I don't,
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we do not want to take on that with our office, mostly because I'd probably have to hire a full-time
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PE because then it becomes a much bigger project. And then perhaps we have liability as a result of that.
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So everybody wants to be happy with the final product and it may be that what we think is okay,
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may not 100% sooth the needs of which connections corporate or whoever, you know, so.
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Okay.
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All right. Jim, do you have anything?
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Said you're there. Sure, Jim Winterbottom that I was disposal, which is a waste connections company.
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I want to throw out a disclaimer. I do not work at the landfill. I work with the folks up there
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very closely and have been there for a number of years.
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As Tyler outlined, as we look forward into what the future holds and
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safely transporting material from point A to point B,
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we are definitely willing to find out what it's going to take to do that.
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It is our landfill which benefits the region as a whole.
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And we want to keep it that way and stay out of the news, so to speak.
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These conversations have been going on since I can remember 09, 2010, back then, had some
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traction, but then it kind of went away.
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So you know, involved our division folks in our region and they're definitely, you know,
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on board and we've had some good conversations with Tyler just willing to do what we can
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to make a word.
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Thanks, Jim.
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Thanks for being here.
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And then yeah, these discussions have been going on for a long time.
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I remember in talking with ODOT and other legislators because they've all been out there
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on site watching the truck traffic and stuff, but even those processes, or maybe those
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processes would be, you know, as long or longer as well, just the process to achieve funding,
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you know, from the state, you know, for improvements on Highway 1A7.
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We've talked about it many times and, you know, unfortunately, it's not the highest priority
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the state for us, it might be a really high priority, but in other parts of the state they've had other,
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they have other safety issues that have multiple deaths and other things that they're trying to
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deal with and this situation is not that dire even though it's dire for us, so it's all relative.
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Okay, so any other questions for anybody, anything else you have, Tyler?
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You're looking for approval of this.
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I don't have any questions, just a couple of comments. One is first of all,
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Waste Connections has always been a very good community partner with us.
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We have a good relationship work in several different ways with him.
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So I'm guessing this is going to be a good relationship going forward,
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because it's beneficial to both Waste Connections and the county and just traffic as well.
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And I want to also reiterate what Tyler was talking about with the Portland Harbor.
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or while the time means might seem strange to some people, it's coincidental, clearly
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this discussion about this road has been going on for a lot longer than the Portland
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Harbor cleanup is talking.
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So we want to, I've been monitoring that situation very closely, working with waste connections,
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working with the neighbors for clean air who have done some work up here and keeping an eye on
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what's going on with that. And there's currently still no proposal or no requests for contracts,
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or no discussion between the EPA and DEQ, which actually do the work themselves. The work
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And the contracts are done by private entities so that the polluters have to hire somebody to clean it up and then they have to follow the rules.
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And there's just been no discussion at this point.
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So I just want to reiterate that but I think it's a great idea and something that I'd love to see.
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that traffic issue resolved in the next,
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in the very foreseeable future.
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I would say, how many years did you get?
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Yeah, I thought so.
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That was good.
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Yeah, I didn't want to look at it.
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I was sort of putting a date on this.
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Okay, very good.
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All right.
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Any other comments, questions?
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If not, I'll take a motion.
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I'd move to approve the memorandum of understanding MOU
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between Wasco County and Wasco County Landfill Inc.
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I think, establishing a cooperative framework to evaluate the feasibility of a private access
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road and authorization in the chair to sign the agreement.
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I enthusiastically second that one.
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All right.
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I'll third it.
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Very good.
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We have a motion.
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Second, this is awesome.
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I mean, obviously, there's a lot of people that wonder what we've been doing, but like for
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people that think we haven't been doing anything.
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Arthur's been at the tip of the spear, but we understand the concerns.
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We understand the challenges.
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We understand all of it, and we're trying to find a solution, but it's not easy.
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It's not cheap, and it's not going to happen quickly, but we're working on it.
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So this is one good step in that direction.
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Okay, if there's no other comments or questions.
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Questions, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Chair votes, yes, you name us. Thanks so much, gentlemen. Everybody that works on this.
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Consider agenda. We do have a consent agenda, which has our minutes from our July 15th meeting. Did everyone have a chance to look at those? Any questions, comments? You want to actually, were you were you on board? You were not. What's not on board? So I can't vote on this. You can abstain. Yeah. I move to approve the consent agenda.
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All right, and I will second that motion. Any discussion here, you know, I was in favor say I abstain stay chair votes. Yes. All right, two votes for yes, one abstention. All right.
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Why don't we go to public comment again before we go to commission calls or any public comment either online or in the room, anything popped up in your mind that you want to bring forward to the commission.
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question. Steve? Do you have anything?
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All right. There we go. There we go. Good
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got it. Thank you. Go to my state of debt.
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Steve, Ron Bell, Vasco County. Just a comment
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on the grasshopper fire just so that citizens are aware. I believe a state and federal had
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proposals on some forced fuel reductions that got held up in court by an environmental
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agency that the taxpayers are paying those court costs for and now all those areas are
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burnt so it doesn't matter but just so people understand that there could be solutions to
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this that we come together with common sense and do things instead of just litigating things.
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That's all I have. All right. It's a very good comment. You know, the forest, the
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Blasco County Forest Collaborative, who we participated in. Lots of people to participate in.
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Did work for a long time. This is one area that they had a big project that was going to actually
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pull out both fire fuels and actual resource in terms of timber. Unfortunately they didn't
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get to the point that they actually implemented the project or the the
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ranger at the Duke Fire District was talking about this the other day and
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it's unfortunate because we could have cleaned up you know if it had happened
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we would have had taken out fire fuels it would have been less likely to be as
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damaging and destructive as it is and we would have also got timber out of it as
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well so that's certainly what the Forest Collaborate is doing and that's what
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they are intended to do and that's a very good point though Steve. Thanks for
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thanks for coming on that. Alright anybody else? Online? Raise your hand. Alright if
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not let's go to commission call. Anybody have any fascinating, wonderful stuff
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for us today? I've got a couple of things as a movie. I also want to signal out
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former Commissioner Quaymon for the awesome work he did for the forest
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collaborative for a lot of years. I mean, he was really involved in that. I also want
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to mention something that's very important to me on the day where I was appointed. Merge
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O. was in the audience and she had a statement she read. I asked her for that statement at
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the end. It's now framed in on my desk. It's a very first thing ever got. It's going to remind
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me to try to think like Phil Brady as well. So I want to be clear about that. I also want
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to thank all the staff people who have been helpful with this fun-ling newbie to get
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him up this speed, and the fire hose drinking is getting better all the time.
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Thank you all.
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Yes.
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It's a lot, isn't it, Roger?
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Yep.
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Thanks for taking it on.
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Yep.
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Okay, Jeff.
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Just a couple things real quick.
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One is, right now, they're still planning today.
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I'm going to run out to Ty Valley, there'll be an update and then perhaps a little bit of a change officially on the fire at least on our end on the grasshopper fire of the state fire marshal kind of demobilizing here.
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That doesn't mean that firefighters are going away and they're done fighting the fire clearly it's going.
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They bump that from yesterday to today because of the advancement to the west yesterday.
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day. There's still planning on meeting today, but we'll see who it goes on. So I've kind
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of been trying to stay abreast of that. Sometimes I wonder exactly what we do to
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our suppliers here as commissioners because, you know, but I think just kind of stay
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in up in the, I do want to come in the state fire marshal and when they put together
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these teams, I mean, they bring in huge teams, just coordinate everything. But, you know,
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when you're talking thousands of, well,
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there probably weren't all there,
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but a thousand firefighters on a fire
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and trying to feed them and provide bathrooms
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and provide showers and provide safety
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and provide all that kind of stuff.
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It takes a lot of coordination.
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So, and to let the community know
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and they really have their meetings down.
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I know you guys have attended a lot
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of the cooperators meetings as well
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and just having those updates
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and being able to answer questions
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for public is important. So I appreciate that. And then speaking of fires, fair is next week.
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And I want to assure everybody that that's fair. Exactly. The fair is on as scheduled.
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And in fact, I believe even a community meeting held last week on Friday in
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the state bar Marshall's office answered a question about the fairgrounds by saying they've
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been working with us and know the dates of fair and are assuring that fair is on still
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lots to do and lots of work being done but we keep an eye, we make sure everybody's safe
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that I think I think smoke is going to be more of a concern next week than fire itself,
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just depending on how long it burns up in the hills and where the wind blows that
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that smoke, but I know for a fact that this won't be the first year that they'll be
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smoke at fair and it happens and we work around it, but coordinating closely with
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are big contractors and 4-H and everybody just to make sure that things are moving forward and so that's going well.
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And then yeah, I think that's probably the probably all I have for today.
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Okay, very good. I returned from NACO, NACO at their annual conference in New Orleans.
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As I mentioned earlier, I did spend quite a bit of time with Esri. They had a lot of
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presentations they made. It's pretty interesting about how counties work with GIS information,
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because it's really becoming important. A couple things I found out. One was there's actually
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something called the Living Atlas that Esri does. They have 14,000 layers of data.
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We have, I don't know many layers of data we have, we probably have maybe 100, maybe 200,
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I don't know, but they have 14,000 layers, so I want one.
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Yeah, well, it's public, it's all public information, so if you look up living Atlas under
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Esri, you can go and you can find all sorts of information that haven't mapped out geographically,
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which is very interesting.
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I also was able to meet with most of our big vendors, so our vendors, they have a big trade
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fair at all these conferences. So a lot of the vendors that work with with county. So I met with
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pretty much all of our vendors that were there. Also one of the ones I met with Tyler Tech,
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Tyler Tech is one of our big vendors for our county systems, which was interesting because I also met
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with Grannis, which is also a new vendor that's providing our system for public information requests
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and had a discussion with both of them about that process, so that was a pretty interesting conversation.
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And then also there was a lot of discussion about PILT and IRS, SRS.
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So WIR, which is a Western Interstate region, which is part of NACO.
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We talked a lot, there's a lot of effort continuing to go on in regards to PILT,
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because SRS is expiring this year.
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And so it needs to be reaped again. PILT, we want full funding for it.
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So just there's a lot of there was a lot of meetings and a lot of discussion about that.
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So that was overall was a pretty good meeting.
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It wasn't as good as some of the ones in the past.
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I mean, I just want to note for the record, excuse me, we have kind of transition on Norco.
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So Jeff is now on the board.
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I was back actually in New Orleans when that happened, but Jeff is now the Norco board member.
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And I understand that Commissioner Weathers from Hood River is now the chair of Norco.
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So congratulations on that.
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I wanted to let you know that McKet has been working a lot lately, a lot of McKet meetings.
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They actually had a big finance meeting where they worked with all the board members to kind of update them on the staff
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because McKet has had a lot of financial issues over the last couple of years.
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Earlier, it was coming up next week.
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And I've had some discussions with the developer of Basalt Commons.
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So it sounds like things are going well, there is some challenges related to an extension needed at at basalt at urban renewal, but they've they've actually achieved some key elements which are going to be very productive in that.
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And then mid come via center for living as a board meeting next week, so there'll be lots of information that we get there.
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And that's all I have.
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I just want to comment for the, for the, that's how this is secure role schools act that was originally
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passed in 2000 way back when and piled this payment law of taxes. So there we go. Yep,
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acronym. Sorry. Okay. I think that is it. Is there anything else for the good of the order?
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Kristen, Arthur, Mike Middleton, Tyler, Christine.
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All right.
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Anybody else?
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All right.
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Thank you everyone for coming.
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We appreciate you participating in the government of
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Wasco County and we are here every day.
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Our numbers are out there every day.
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If you have a question, Steve sends us stuff all the time,
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which we appreciate and reach out to us and ping us
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and we will try to help you.
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All right.
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Everyone have a great day. We are adjourned.