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The list is actually the same project
from the town of Kingsbury, Del Cath
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Systems, but one is a area variance and
one was a
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site plan review.
So, um
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I think so we'll do the
variance first.
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Um
So,
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one of the things
This is where I actually looked at the
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write-up. It's basically they're
requiring a setback relief.
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The um they're going to build an
addition to the building to house
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additional manufacturing, storage space,
etc.
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Because [clears throat] of setback
requirements, they only need a 1 ft 11
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in relief request.
So, um
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I
So, Pamela did this buffer map before
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she left. The first thing that I noticed
on the buffer map is
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Del Cath is shown on our property
records as owning the parcel behind it.
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And it looks My first thought was,
"Well, why don't they just merge the two
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lots?"
Well, it turns out at some point, based
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on the records that were submitted by
the applicant, Rozell probably purchased
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all of the Del Cath lots owned by that.
So, our property systems are probably
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not updated yet, which means they would
definitely need this variance because
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they don't own that lot.
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» [clears throat]
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» Other than that, I mean, I didn't see
anything that wasn't very
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straightforward. It's an addition in a
commercial building in a commercially
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developed area.
It's just a 1 ft 11 in variance.
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And everything stays on their own
property. Yep. It's just that the buffer
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will go down to 23 and 1/2 ft instead of
25 ft in their parking lot.
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Understood.
I was just asking for clarification.
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Matter of local interest?
Tim?
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You did that? Uh I would make a motion
that we send it back as a matter of
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local concern. Okay. Second?
I'll second that.
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I always just get one vote.
>> [laughter]
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» All in favor?
Aye. Aye.
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Aye.
Okay. All right then. So, the next one
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is the site plan review. Again, same
project. There are
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drawings
I'm going to give you tiny drawings
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at the back of the meeting. Um
the back of the packet.
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And it appears that they're adding their
house offices
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and the factory space.
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That's the same lot?
It's the same lot, yep.
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That's what this shows on
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Isn't that gray area is the new one?
Shaded area?
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Building is pink.
Um the at the very back of the packet is
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all of the drawing.
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I guess you can find the drawing.
Yeah, the shaded in area.
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But my eyes aren't as good as they used
to be.
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I was going to say I'm jet
simply because Yeah, it says shaded
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shaded area of the proposed building
expansion. There's I'm going to take
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that with me. I'm going to take a few
tests right now.
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» [laughter]
>> Yeah, look at the second second map.
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Yep.
Yep.
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I'm wondering
I'm also
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Are there anything you saw as relative
concerns Laura?
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Not that I saw.
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Okay.
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And what's the judgment on this one?
Local concern again?
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Well, Mr. Chairman, do you want to make
that motion?
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Well, put me on the spot. Well,
I'll make the motion make it a matter of
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local concern. I'll second that.
All in favor?
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Aye. Aye.
Aye.
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Opposed?
Carried.
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Um
Okay, next project that is
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Granville.
Um
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So, this is a site plan approval
for a fairly small It's a 2.44 MW solar
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farm on 9 acres.
The um
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the full plans, the large scale ones are
there if anybody wants to take a look at
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them. Also in the black binder is
Granville's solar law.
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Um what I what we put in the package for
you is the application. Um this did come
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to Granville once. It went back because
the Granville planning board asked for a
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few changes.
The changes are at the very back of your
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um at the very back of your packet
um from Lamont Engineers. Um
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This is basically changes that were made
to this project as a result of requests
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from um Granville's
planning board.
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But there is a a lot of the changes
related to the decommissioning plan.
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Mhm.
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So, there is a full decommissioning
plan. Um
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This is a 9 acre solar farm on a 20 3
acre plus or minus acre parcel.
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And the and the site is fairly flat.
On the river.
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This is the new river news. Yeah, so
here's the buffer The buffer map is in
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here. It
should be in the back so you can see
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where it is.
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And it is also um in agricultural one.
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Laura, on the agricultural data
statement that's in there. Mhm. The
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question where it asked, is the parcel
actively farmed? Both boxes are checked.
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There's a question mark next to yes.
That's what I was looking for. So, no.
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I'm not familiar with that area.
Could be.
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So, according to the Ag data statement,
it's actively farmed.
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Um
Walkers
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by three different farms.
Oh oh no, this is the adjacent farms.
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Walkers, Harry Wilbur, and Kenneth
Thomas would have active farming on
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their own parcels.
I don't see the question mark that
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you're looking at in the system. Uh it's
on this one that looks like yes.
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Well, that
Okay, so those were So, that the
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question mark that I'm seeing is under
Henry Wilbur.
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So, again, that would be an adjacent
land owner.
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Okay, I see what you mean then.
That's farms within 500 ft of the
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parcel.
>> Got you.
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Recommendation on this one? So, they
made the appropriate changes that the
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town of Granville has requested? Yes,
this originally came to us in February
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and then Granville contacted us and
asked us to pull it subject to further
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review by
their planning boards, attorneys,
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whoever else they wanted to have a look
at with. And then they brought it back
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to us for this one. Did they have a
decommissioning plan at that time? I
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believe most a lot of the changes were
related to the decommissioning.
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And again, you will see um that plan is
at the at the back and
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um
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I guess I didn't make color copies for
everybody, but the changes on my copy
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are colored, so I don't know if you can
tell the difference.
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I know it.
I think
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in the past, at least the most recent
past, that have been on the only
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recommendation that we've sent back or
notification that we've sent back on the
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town of Granville was to make sure that
they coordinate with emergency services
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for site development plans.
Not site plan review, but understanding
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of the site and operations prior to
emergency occurrence. Okay.
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But other than that, I'll make a motion
it's a matter of local concern.
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I'll second that.
I'll second.
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We're getting you going now. I'll
second. We're getting you going now. I'm
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saying take a breath.
Any further discussion?
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All in favor? Aye. Aye.
Aye.
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Opposed?
Carried. Next, Richard Palmer Permont.
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Okay, this is another Kingsbury project.
Um
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This one
um
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the applicant
has purchased
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an existing home. He over a home on a
um
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1 and 1/2 acre parcel.
He owns a non-emergency medical
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transportation company and is looking
for additional space to park it park his
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uh transportation vans.
So, what was provided
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was uh basically the uh
the parcel map that doesn't actually
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even show where the existing structures
are.
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So, I went and pulled as you will see a
Google Earth map and also a parcel map
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that shows where the existing structures
are.
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So, my concern on this is you have a
house here and then what looks like
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barns or sheds in the back.
What he is proposing based on his
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drawing is to put a driveway here to
access the house and a driveway here to
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access what is grass and area.
He has stated that he's looking to park
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up to eight vehicles there.
So, given that this is grass and area
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given the proximity to house, my concern
would be
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eight vehicles parked end-to-end would
get you to the back of the lot.
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Without turnaround space, you're risking
people backing out onto this 6th Avenue,
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which I would see as something that
should be addressed.
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Other than that, it's pretty
straightforward. He basically intends to
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to rent the house,
use it as a rental property and then
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park
and his statement was up to eight
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vehicles on the site.
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It doesn't say whether he's planning on
putting in a gravel area, a road.
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There's no information on that.
Is it just storage of the vans or is it
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that's where they go at the end of the
day, that type of thing or
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It's said for some of his drivers to be
able to collect the vehicles. So, I
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would guess
that if he has a network of drivers that
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he's trying to park some vehicles closer
to where his drivers are. Okay.
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It also could be that he's simply out of
space where he is. It doesn't say that.
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I'm just curious. So,
you have to park you don't have to park
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the drivers out there park their cars
there unless they get transported from
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the other facilities here.
That's actually another point. If if
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drivers are driving their own cars to
this space, they would you know, I I
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don't I don't know whether the eight
cars that he's stating includes drivers
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bringing their own cars in or if it's
actually eight medical transportation
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vans in there.
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Your recommendation on this?
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What's my recommendation?
>> Yes.
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I would
um make a note to the Kingsburg Planning
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Board to review the possible traffic
implications and if there's sufficient
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room to
make sure that they're not backing
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vehicles out 6th Avenue.
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Hey, thank you, Ted. The driver Well,
somebody got it.
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An illusion.
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So, this is just about where where it's
cut off here, just about the end of the
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parcel. So,
I don't know how much room there would
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be. And it's obviously fairly treed but
the new shape of the road would be no.
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I think you can assume that it is. They
point out
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if you're driving there, they got to
respond to it.
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With their own vehicles, I guess.
So, you don't need room for at least
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eight vehicles, you need room for at
least nine vehicles.
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I would like a replacement. I would say
more than that.
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» say 16 but actually
They have one driver for each
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» Right, cuz they have to pull the van in,
park it.
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What? Again, he may only be planning on
parking two or three medical vans there
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and the rest of them his drivers' cars.
That's unclear. The application said up
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to eight.
It says in his little description of
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project
two to three drivers per day.
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So, maybe he was figuring in with the
eight of
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having extra cars there, too.
But I
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I would concur, Laura, we should send it
back with a notation that they can
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consider where parking is and traffic
implications.
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Any other comments?
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You have a motion to send it back with
those comments?
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As in another local business.
I make that a motion.
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Do I hear a second?
Okay.
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If that's all the motion, could we have
one vote today?
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All in favor? Aye.
I say vote.
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Carried.
Um that's all we have. I I um I did not
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see any A E notices or
reports of final action comments.
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So,
that's all we have for today.
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Good.