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I've got to start over, no wait, turn this on. Good morning.
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August 17th, 2026. It's 10 old five already, the start commission meeting. I'm Commissioner Blackburn.
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Commissioner Kerry Cook. Commissioner Brian. Michael Wade, county three.
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Edward Stephanie Clerk. Colleen Allen, Wayne County Recorders, pressure.
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to CalPACE, Commission Secretary.
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And other members of the public, thank you for being here.
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I'd like to start with a word of prayer and a pledge.
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Mr. Kid, would you pray for us today?
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Sure.
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Our fallen heaven.
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We're grateful for the opportunity which we have to meet together in commissioning today
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and take care of the business of the county.
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We're grateful for the many blessings which stop.
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blesses us with for the beautiful place where we live and for the success which we've had of
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our county fire this weekend. We're grateful for all the hands that have chipped in and worried
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and volunteered to help make things a success. We're grateful for the many families which are here
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and we're grateful for the tragedies which have made our county people better
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that they look out for each other more often, and we ask thee to bless them, and we ask thee
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to bless us today that we may be able to do things according to thy will that we may
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be productive, that we may be able to accomplish the tasks which you're here for us. We're grateful
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for the freedoms which we enjoy, and for the blessings of where we live, and we do this
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in the name of Jesus Christ.
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Can I read this in a play?
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I apologize.
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I apologize to the people I, the United States of America,
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and to the Republic for which it stands,
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Long Nation, on the God,
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Intervisible with Liberty and Justice for our own.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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Minutes.
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In the effect correction.
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With the correction of the dollar figures,
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section. The all second.
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I understand
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the agenda. Nicole, welcome.
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I wasn't sure what information you wanted, so I thought I would bring you. These are the
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syllabus. This is the little chef's class. And this is the amount of
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primary class. Morgan Knight will be teaching the little chef's cooking class. We've
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expanded it to ages 5 to 9 because there are so many kids that want to take it.
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And now entrepreneurship class is age 9 and above.
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Right now we've got 12 kids enrolled in a little chef class and 9 in the entrepreneurship
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class.
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So safeorship academy is kind of like a co-op.
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I don't know if any of you have ever homeschooled or know about homeschooling, but often the parents
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will teach the core classes, math, and language arts, and then the other parents will get together
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and do other classes.
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So we have science, we have PE, we have forcemanship, we have
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We have our class, we have history, so we've got 15 classes, 38 kids, they have a meeting
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in my house, but we're growing out of my house, so we're looking to the community center.
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We also have a satellite campus in Hanceville, we've got 13 kids in Hanceville.
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So these are all from school families, and we just gather new classes together.
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And I do work with Kate Chappell quite a bit, our kids are very involved in 4-H and in the
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fair and all of that.
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So, that's kind of what spurred this idea is for each day one of the cooking classes.
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They offered one and then did another one for the elders and our kids just really want
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to learn about cooking and we thought having a commercial kitchen would be better than
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our household kitchen.
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So, that's why we applied for the good, the waiver for the convenience and but what can I
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tell you about sagebrush Academy?
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So, how long have you been going?
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This is our fourth year where Utah State approved private school so I get a lot
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of the kids have scholarship from Utah. It's all scholarship. A few of them don't.
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We're starting to get kids that are just coming to be public classes but yeah it's
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So the state of Utah have a homeschool scholarship that people can apply for to fund curriculum
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classes, things like that.
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So if the kids receive the homeschool scholarship, they can apply that towards buying their own
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curriculum, more classes, or going to another private school, or whatever they want.
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So the Van Dyke family, Dave and Cassie Van Dyke, for example, are kids go to something called Kimber Academy
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and their scholarship covers the fees for Kimber Academy and whatever other educational expenses they come up with.
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So these classes for the high school, the kids that have a scholarship, these classes cost $400 a month.
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Well, even those who don't have a scholarship, typically pay $40 a month for a classic, so they use a scholarship.
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I mean, $40 a month is for...
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Oh, I paid a teacher.
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So I made administrator at the school, and I paid a teacher.
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So if you did, you got some teachers that didn't pay you.
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Yeah, they get paid $10 for student per class.
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One thing that one kind of concern that I've thought of since we've talked about this
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is, you know, we do have county insurance.
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Do you have insurance?
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for, say, church academy, you know, I don't, do I need to get a,
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something happened in the class.
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Yeah, something happens on County property, somebody gets burned,
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somebody gets locked in the freezer and freezes.
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I'm just going to give you that one, but, you know,
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there's just a possibility.
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My ability is kind of to become a big thing for us.
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Okay.
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Are there still fire in the kitchen burns down?
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I'm not sure, I mean, I don't know what.
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So while we use the facilities,
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sagebrush academy, whole liability for any incidents
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that would happen.
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We need something like that.
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That's a good thing, Michael.
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We prefer that, Billy.
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Yes, a lot better, so.
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And then there will be cost to the county for electricity
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and he, you know, that kind of stuff.
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OK.
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I'm not sure how it will be that.
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So I don't know if I wonder if it ought to be just a partial, if not just a regular fee.
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The more I thought about it, especially if you're getting some.
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The.
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Well, that just pays for teacher.
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It doesn't go to me.
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Sure.
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And the classes are free for communities.
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Kids that come.
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These classes of committees and there would be free for any community.
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Kids.
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That's just for the scholarship students, if they don't have a scholarship, they don't pay for the class.
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Okay.
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Yeah. So that's why we thought we can offer this as a service to the kids and the county, if we can,
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but what paying $200 a day for the facilities are just, that would be cost prohibitive for us, so we'd have to.
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Is that one of these?
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It's 25 for the kitchen.
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So it would be twice a month, it
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goes through it from September to May during the school year basically and the after-school
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country vlog.
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Some kind of, well I think we probably better have some kind of a liability thing and I almost want to say $100 a month for take care of the expenses.
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Okay, the power will have our maintenance guy shows up and does stuff, you know, that's
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pretty reduced.
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And I'm just throwing that out.
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I don't know what you guys think.
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Well, I think it's important that the applicant know why we want the fee to
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use the facilities.
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But you're going to book the facility and nobody else can be able to use it either.
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Well, I understood that the rooms work could be in use while we were there.
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We would just use the kitchen and the classroom.
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And the contract has us clean up after the contract had assigned to liability as well.
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And most of us did all of this and everybody has to go through it.
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Yeah.
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This guy is quite extensive and also the liability, like you can't have a complain so I can't
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think so.
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So it's really, it would cover the cost of clean up and just associate it with me.
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That's why it's important.
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That's all I'm concerned about.
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I'm not really concerned about it.
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I'm just going to cover our costs.
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And as far as the insurance
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is concerned.
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There's more to get some state news coming in.
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Yeah. Well, it's not my money.
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I know. I understand.
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But the parents can use it to pay the teachers.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And I know what you're telling me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, as far as the insurance
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a doorstep. We would prefer that as well. Just name in the county as sure. So, so
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do you need insurance and just the waiver? Well, we want the insurance endorsement.
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That way you would bear the risk as the individual should something happen. I mean it's
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more of your own risk of urgent but we would prefer it so if something were to
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happened. That might also make it cost prohibitive, I don't know, because these are just, we're
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not making a lot of money on these things. And should I, I, I, I lose no bat. So, the business,
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liability insurance.
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Typically, it's a private, well, we're sure. Well, we had me, I am, so
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it's considered a business. So I think it could get pretty costly. But we, in the way.
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Well,
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I prefer it, but as far as I do, if I, as the administrator, are willing to bear the risk,
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if something happens, they get it.
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Basically, so county is in help.
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Byable, if there's an accident, which I'm comfortable with.
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Or you, or you, or you, yeah, protect yourself as well.
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Right.
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I can help with that if you want.
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Okay.
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So how long do those students, it's not a big deal.
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They're age 5 to 15.
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It's like a middle school, elementary middle school.
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In a year or five, I want to see it right here. No, I'm not, I'm not asked for it right now. Okay, I think
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that's, I think those are the questions that I really had.
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So, my
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concern was a lot of times with stuff like with 4-H and stuff. We struggle to get students to attend the support programs that we already have going. So, part of my hesitation was that portion, but you've already mentioned that just,
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I would say our students probably attend 4-H the most, although these students are totally
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separate from Cates.
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You're dealing with a different group, and you're dealing with younger kids that don't
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have anything offered by 4-H also in that group, but if you could encourage 4-H participation
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support that program also. We need to build up. We don't need to tear it apart.
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For sure. Actually, I just talked to Kate on Saturday because 4H has an engineering class.
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Those little mini golf courses that kids built. And we're offering an engineering class
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to take Russian Academy. So we're going to work together on that because typically what 4H
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offers is 1 or 2 classes. These are 18 week courses. This is the more in-depth thing.
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So, I think not in case they're thrilled that the idea of having somebody who's committed
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to carrying something more than what they're doing.
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That's good.
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So, we work, we work a lot better.
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Anyway, we'd love to be able to use it if we can.
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And it's going to cost a lot, we'll stay with my kitchen, but I prefer not to.
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That's a lot of kids and a little kitchen.
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And I think it will, let's see if we can work out through some of those names, particularly
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the library.
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Yeah.
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I'm so accountable.
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We've already, we've already made the motion of the way so we have to go back and change
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that.
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And there was some mention of Wednesday's being busy at the community center.
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I don't know if he keeps the schedule or he's guys.
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It just depends on if there's any other people already on okay that day we have to look at the schedule
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You've got to come in we have to look at those dates once they're approved by the commissioners
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Okay, sit down and book it out for you. Okay, but there's nobody on there. Yeah, it's okay. I'm letting those dates in time
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All right, that sounds good. Our teachers are anxious to know when they're teaching they're hoping for Wednesday from 3 to 5
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But if we need to change it so if they have the kitchen and you but you basically need that big room to
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There's just a classroom on the side.
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Okay, but then you're going to be walking through the big room.
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So if somebody else is having an event in there,
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you're going to be going to be going to the kitchen to,
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I guess, if you could go outside.
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Yeah, two separate classes.
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So I think you can close off the kitchen
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so they can come from the outside,
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which is what they did at 4H.
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And at the classroom, you can go into it without going into the room.
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Yeah, that's the senior citizen right next door.
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Yeah.
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It's not the senior citizen room.
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There's another classroom. It's got three tables round table.
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I'm just trying to remember.
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That's the senior citizen room is dedicated.
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And it's got a common on it.
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And I see you have one in between them.
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Yeah.
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It's not a senior citizen.
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Okay.
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It's a smaller.
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No, they use it often.
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Yeah.
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And if we, you know, we can schedule, we can change the schedule.
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It just helps to know if we've got, you know,
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40 kids coming in.
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It's good to know in advance.
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If it's not just set Wednesdays, if you're open to like Thursdays or Tuesdays or somehow.
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Yeah, we can move it around.
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20 in a start.
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September 18th is our first day.
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So I guess it would be that's 18th is a Friday, so it would be the 16th.
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16th.
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Okay, so.
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I appreciate you coming.
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Tell us this kind of, we kind of lost a little bit.
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Yeah, I also, there's a website.
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There's no sagebrush academy.org.
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It's got all the information over there.
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It's kind of it, it's kind of becoming a thing.
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It started out as just a little tiny home school co-op
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that it's becoming popular.
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OK, so I assume that being associated with the state
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and everything that all of the adults that are involved
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with kids are back down, check, and prove.
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Well, you know, they're not because they teach their own kids, that's something we've
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been asked to look at.
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And if they're teaching the other kids, they're involved with more than they're all.
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Yeah, you're right.
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No, they haven't in that project.
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I guess that would be up to me as an administrator.
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And that may be another liability issue for the administrator and worry about.
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But we've got 10 teachers.
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I know them pretty well.
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I work with most of them and I'm sure, but I think that it's not very difficult to get
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a background check on teachers, so if it creates a feeling of confidence, I think we can
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do that.
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You have a feeling of protection for the kids.
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For sure.
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You have the child protection course.
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Yeah.
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I think that's a good thing.
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That's a good idea.
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Okay.
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We can incorporate that into our teacher training.
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Other stuff.
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I know there's a lot of things to do.
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for more than even longer, I do this.
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I realize there's a lot of consideration
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of teaching kids, but I think they open up and do more.
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And we really do want it to be a service for the county.
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We do have these kids that are committed
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because they have a scholarship requirement
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to go to so many classes and all that,
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but there's not a lot of options for kids in the county.
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So we made it after school, so kids in public school
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can come, we wanted to do something that engages them.
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for example a lot of our kids my kids have 13 injuries in the fair and that's
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all from stuff they made in our class you know we want to engage it we want to
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integrate into the county we're not just you know yeah good good thank you so
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are you raised elementary through high school not through high school right now just
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15 but because it's home school it's not they're not necessarily on certain grade
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levels they don't have to do testing the parents are ultimately responsible for
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their faculty and their kids. How many charter schools are here in the county? Well it's not a charter school
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it's private so Charter's public and private is not so I'm going on a private
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school whether you talk it's all a scholarship in Wayne County as far as I know I don't know there's
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so many charter schools are there. There are no charter schools in the charter schools. So you're the only
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other alternative for public education here in the county organized yes. Okay so other just home
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school other than just going on your own yeah okay so you're leading the
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home school charge basically yeah that's really cool that's good yeah there's lots
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of them especially down in Hanksville you know and you've got a little kid you
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don't want to send him on the bus for four hours you see your total of the
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moments 40 40 students yeah yeah 40 students 13 Hanksville right now there's more
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families in Hanksville but those are the ones who got the scholarship we started out
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with the scholarship four years ago but it's getting much more competitive so I
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I had ten families on our wait list this year, and I went to your loan, got the scholarship after being a loan.
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So they don't give it to everybody then?
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No, they do not.
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Okay.
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So there are some kind of homeschool programs that you get to get into with all this scholarship.
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It's all the scholarships. It's called the Utah Fits all scholarship.
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It's awarded to the parents, and then the parents can go through certain approved channels like private schools, or curriculum, or whatever.
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it's very, very closely embedded. In fact, I've just audited a few years ago, it's under a lot of scrutiny, trying to get rid of it.
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So it's kind of the hard-of-education problem.
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Yes, so I am very regulated.
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But yeah, you're right, there are still liability issues, and we could do background screening through the parents that would make it feel more.
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I will make another motion in addition to this last one that we do look into insurance
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and pull them in the county live room and let's look at this again in six months and see
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about the fee.
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so I'd like to make the fee waiver for just six months going forward and then see
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where because we already proved that so I'd like to see it just in a short
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way you know kind maybe we can get an idea of what's that's my motion and yeah
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No,
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I'm liable. Not liable.
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Yes, not liable.
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Not liable.
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So that's my motion.
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Our second motion.
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To be re-value ready for the next two months.
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Sounds good.
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Motion in a second.
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All in favor?
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Hi.
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All right.
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Okay, thank you very much.
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Thanks for coming.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Jones and Demail.
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You're going to talk about our favorite ride.
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Our favorite subject.
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Oh yeah.
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We do have somewhat good news. I think it's good news.
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It's right on your door. Not that good of me.
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So we opened bids on the contract last week before I dive into the bid results.
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So there's two pages que hand it out.
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The first one on top there's just kind of a summary.
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The second one's the detailed bids from every contractor.
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After a few high points, we received seven bids, which is great for a project of this
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nature.
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It's not your traditional project that you'd see bid out in our region, obviously.
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So we were glad to have that much interest.
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There's a couple things I want to point out as well on the bids.
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You'll notice our probable cost, if you dig into it, our probable cost is listed at $1.3
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million.
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dollars. If you think back a couple of months ago when we were here, probably back when
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Jameson was helping you fill out the application. We kept using a cost of 940,000 was what
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our internal probable cost was. The FAA had a little bit of heartburn with our probable
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cost. They thought it was a little too low and there were some ramifications. If our probable
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cost was a percentage lower than what the actual low bid was, then they would potentially
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make us reject the bids and start over, go through the whole process, best case scenario
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they'd make us go through a process on their end to justify the low bid and make sure
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that it was competitive and properly priced.
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So they did let us revise our probable cost, if you will, and that's where the 1.3 million
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came from that was basically ensuring the county that regardless of where the
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bids came in that we would we'd be able to clear that FAA hurdle you'll
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notice that almost all the bids came in below or more than half of them came in
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below the 1.3 million so anyways that bought some just made the paperwork easier
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on the FAA side but so back to that original cost estimate was 940,000
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within that 940, there was $85,000 a contingency.
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So our actual construction cost was estimated at $8.55.
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The low bid came in at $7.18.
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So, and I guess I wanted to paint with that color
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for just a minute because if you just look
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at the where the low bid is at
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and then where the rest of the field lies,
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it's pretty stark contrast.
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But when you break it down and you look back
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to numbers of coin I've put together
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for a couple of months, numbers that James and John have worked through for quite some
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time, and we start painting that light in, you know, yeah, they're below the low bid,
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but they're not that much below the low bid, or they're not that much below our original
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probable cost.
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So as we started breaking down numbers, so you can do it a couple of different ways, you
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know, one thing we always do is we look at the low bid, proportionate to the engineer's
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estimate, and then we look at the little bit proportionate to the field.
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Especially comparing number one and number two to each other, H and H is actually quite
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a bit more money on several of the bid items when you compare them to number two, which
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is, again, it's not uncommon, every contractor kind of slices a pie a little differently.
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The one that the outlier falls on the fence, so items 1-9, 10, and 11.
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And then we have an 11-8 and 11-B. Those are alternate, so we bid it two different ways.
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One with PVC coated wire to be buried in the ground, and then one was just galvanized.
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Again, for the, we're just hedging our bets.
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If the PVC wire came in above our cost, we were going to look and see if it was enough
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cheaper to justify just using the galvanized, but where the bits fell, that became a non-issue.
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But if you total those three bid items, 1-9-10-11, those are $52 when you combine them.
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In our cost estimate that we've been working off of, they were just a single line item,
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and we'd estimated them at $40.
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So even on that one line, even though there's
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so much less than the rest of the field,
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they're still higher than where our original cost
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estimate had put those.
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HMH, so this is the same contractor that we had bid.
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They were the little bit on the water project
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for the industrial park.
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At that time, I was not comfortable giving the recommendation
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for a culinary water project.
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They had just come off of a sprinkler line project, the meter project that didn't go great.
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Since that time, we did a...
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Board them a culinary water project. They're just wrapping that up right now. We've had really good luck with them on that job in particular. They've kind of used that as their redemption project, if you will. And HMH is, they're just notoriously cheap for dirt work. So this project, because you're combining fencing with the six foot deep trench, I think there's kind of a, you know, there's a, there's a level of difficulty that most fence guys alone
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aren't used to and then from from the dirt work side you know a guy that's
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digging a trench doesn't really want to have to deal with all the fence and all
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that stuff so it's kind of you're kind of blending two aspects where where you've
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got two main disciplines of contractors that you're trying to make a
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mirror face which Cody you know he's figured out a way to do that and at a cost
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effective method so I guess with all of that that I do feel very comfortable to
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day recommending that we award at HMA just a little bit and move into the contracting
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process with the FAA. I guess with that maybe I'll toss it back to you, commissioners
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for questions. Question I have since they are on the cost of materials quite a bit more.
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What's the probability of them coming back and saying hey, it's a federal contract so
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zero and we've already we've already had that we've already had the
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conversation we can't uh think it's yeah say we forgot something yeah they can't
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be like well actually we didn't realize there was gonna be rock you know we
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bit it as if it was all sand like they we've already had that conversation said
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yeah so it's got a where and again where it's all federal contracting like this
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the specs are basically not negotiable. And if they come to us and say sorry we didn't understand
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this spec, our materials four times as much. Right now the options are, K will pull your bid bond
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and move on to number two, or you accept it end of story we move forward. That's what it is.
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That's that that's been my one concern. Yeah, and and Koi's had that conversation with with the owner Cody and I guess you can summarize that for us quite. Yeah, just doing the check of Hey,
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compared to the field, the little lower, I mean, just making sure you're good with everything didn't have me. I'll miss one thing or another. He said, no, we're good at this prices. When do we start? So he did, they were all good there.
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So he understands the stakes and he's acceptable to them, so agreeable.
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Once we award this, when do they start?
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So we'll do the contracting this fall.
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We just got an email response this morning that they won't let us start anything until next May.
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So we've got the prairie dogs, and then there's a flowering period or something for a migratory bird.
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So...
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Nice day for you around.
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Yeah.
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You're talking about the bees.
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So are you supposed to be on the...
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At any rate, may first this one, they'll give us the green light.
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We have been given permission for the contractor to order materials
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so that they're gonna get this year's pricing rather than next year's, so they'll get that
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order it and paid for and we'll have the contract in place but as far as breaking ground may first
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will be the date there.
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I'll give you a fee but that's what it is.
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FAA who put those regulations in there.
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Yeah, it's their wildlife fish and wildlife services.
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So they're the ones that are having the hard
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burned open migratory birds. We were trying to get in this fall to at least do the clearing and
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grubbing and get it opened up because we're fighting two different timelines. So you've got the
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migratory, migratory bird timelines when we can work and when we can't. And then we've got the
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prairie dogs. Prairie dogs in the spring we can go to work as soon as they wake up and they're active
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which you know if we get a good warm spring that could be April 1st, it could be March 15th.
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Last year it was February, we had 80 degrees, so we're hoping to do the cleaning and
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grabbing now.
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So as soon as the product dogs were active, we could go to work.
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That's where the Fish and Wildlife Services came back and said their opinion and I mean
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it was the gal that's in charge of this project.
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And then I think her supervisor was supposed to, that came back and said that they would just
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feel better, not getting the clearing and grabbing done now, and then setting up a start
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date of May 1st next year. That kind of, that actually helps the contractor a little
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bit because now instead of saying, soon as the prayer dogs wake up, you can go to work.
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I mean, now he's got a date in mind, and we all know that's the date of our shooting for,
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so it kind of simplifies things on that end.
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but these are the same two that cost this project.
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So what if happens if we have a late spring and there's still eight inches of snow sitting
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on the ground in May 1st?
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We'll all smile and we tell the contractor he needs to wait another month.
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I would love it.
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But yeah, realistically so if it's cold, prior dogs aren't active, we'll still have to wait.
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But we'll be past the migratory bird deadline at that point.
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So, yeah, for the prey dogs, just waiting for the prey dogs, it may be anywhere from
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March to May God, I've got to have open ground, there's snow still there, there's still
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sleep there.
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Right.
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So, if they all get the plague and die, are we still going to build the past?
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Not sure, guys, it's a decision I guess.
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I don't know.
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So we need a motion to accept the bids and then award to HMH pending the FAA contracting
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and process, and then the century that will get us through their contracting period that
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needs to happen over the end of their fiscal year, it will obligate the money at the higher
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cost share rate again that was kind of why we're trying to get it done this
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year after if we cross over into the October so into the next fiscal year
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then your cost share rate goes the county portion actually goes up and so
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that's why we're trying to get it all done on this fiscal year bids came in
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favorable so everything's still in how we plan and how we go right now this is
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It's probably that it's not costing the county any money, so we can't have a go up in it.
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Exactly, that's what we're at.
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So, I'll make a motion to accept the bids and accept the bid of HMH, excavation, a little
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bit of 718,000, 305, 306 I think.
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I'll also make a motion that you get more ink and print this bigger.
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We'll bring, we can get bigger, whatever, whatever that last number.
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Yeah, what is the number?
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So it's 7, 18, 306.
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306.
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Okay.
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Oh my God, Monkson.
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I'll second the motion that we approve of.
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Yeah.
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Most of the second.
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All in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Thank you.
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Appreciate it.
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We'll let the FAA know.
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And then if there's any other documents that they need from your side to close,
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it out we'll let you know too so we'll send you an NOA notice of award to get the
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contraction stuff started with our contractor and then we'll get like
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explained we'll do a just like a stock pile so he'll buy all the materials he'll
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have to have them on site so we'll probably look for a spot in the fence
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area where he can deliver the materials and store them over the winter and then
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And as soon as they're in our possession,
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then we'll pay him for him.
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I'll be kind of next steps over the next few months.
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I just make the comment.
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It's interesting that this is a county property,
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county, therefore, yet the FAA dictates to us
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what we can and can't be there.
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Just another sign of federal outreach.
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We do get federal funds with a lot of red tape,
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a lot of red tape come with those federal funds and tremendous amount of stuff.
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Okay, thanks.
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Appreciate it.
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Thank you guys.
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Appreciate it, yeah.
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Go
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somewhere else.
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Yeah, head to Mary's Bell.
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When's there?
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Because conservation.
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Any of that already?
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That's the last area.
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Thank you.
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I thought my whole week was clear.
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Okay, thanks.
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Appreciate it.
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Thank you.
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You taught the Department of Vagant Food, Grant, and Greenmond.
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Tap
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to hear
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me a talk about it.
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Talk about it.
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This is an agreement that we have with the Utah Department of Vagant Food, U-D-A-F,
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that we have signed for a number of years.
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It has to do with our predator control, which benefits not only livestock and benefits wildlife here as well.
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Typically, we've used that money's been used for aerial use, so we'll pay $4800, but
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most of that will come back to us, and that's
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our cost reimbursement.
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So they'll send half of that back to us, so it really only costs us $2400, but the agreement
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It's said in place we've been in this agreement for a long time.
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It changes a little bit, but not a whole lot.
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It's definitely a benefit to the county producers, actually, the way they have it now.
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Producers are putting in, I speak out for myself, we get grants and kind of follow the same
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thing that helps with the area as well and we're paying into it also.
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This is just benefits county in a lot of ways so
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I'll make a motion that we
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approve the UDAF Predator grant agreement.
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I'll second it.
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Second.
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All in favor?
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All right.
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Question passes.
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You know.
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R6, MOU, Senior Citizen Nutrition Program Fund.
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Brock, is it?
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It's not his.
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Well, how is it?
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Well, yeah, it was.
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It was.
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It was?
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Yeah.
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District of this letter, Dear Wayne County,
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The R6 Regional Council is pleased to announce the contract amount of 16,424 to Wayne County
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for the Senior Nutrition Program.
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The grant period of performance will extend from July 1st, 2026 through June 30th, 2027.
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Fund subcontracted are determined based on the number of meals served in your county.
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You may receive additional funding through donations depending on funds collected.
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Seniors that are allocations of funds are included in the total of contract funds.
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Transportation dollars in the amount of $1,000 are included in the Wayne County Nutrition
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allocation to provide transportation and access to the seniors in the county.
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Sharon Bullard is our assigned program manager and we send this back to her by August 25th.
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This is one of the reasons that we are very involved with our six regional council.
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They take care of a lot of these kind of things for senior nutrition being one of them.
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It's a good thing.
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You're not only delivering a mail but you're actually checking on your checkers.
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It's a good program, it's a really good program, so I have a motion, I'll make a motion and
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improve the senior center nutrition.
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I guess it's, let me look at the right one, MOU. Yeah, I'll make the motion if we, uh, prove the MOU with senior nutrition program through R6. I will second that motion to the second law in favor.
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I put
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her up support of the dump road canal company to water infrastructure improvements.
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I was approached by Richard Jensen, who was president of the dump road canal company,
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which is down in Torrey. They have gone through and got grants in the past to pipe some of that
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down through there through Torrey to get the better use of the water. This is just a
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letter of support that we continue to help them. They're applying for another grant that will help
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finish that project and I guess tidy it up a little bit and this is a letter that we will support
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their efforts in our conversation and being able to deliver the water to the ag producers
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that are down there.
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So I'll make a motion that we approve this letter of support.
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I'll second the second on paper.
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I
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I
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I
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I
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I
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I
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I
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I
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I
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I
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I
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I
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and the board of directors for the letter.
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So is he more from the audition without the recreation?
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Hopefully, I'm hoping the site visit for the project
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funded by the legislature.
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On September 20, 2020, the second,
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22, 7, 9, 30, 11, 30, 8, and about 30 people to attend.
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2027? It should be 2026, so it was 26. 26, it's just September. Where is that?
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This
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is the Outdoor Reck Committee that I also serve on there with them.
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But instead of doing Zoom meetings, they requested that maybe we come and see some of the areas.
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The Outdoor Reck mitigation fund is going to be representing and providing for through the grants that have been, let's do the 31st.
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So they talked about it, Katie might have got a hold on me and she kind of decided, hey let's go see.
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Let's get our board out there and let's come see.
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There's going to be five or six members of that board who will come.
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And it sounds like it's grown to include some of the legislative people too who have health provided that grant.
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Money directions.
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I feel that I'll make the motion that we wave the fee for the community center for.
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And no one the amount that they help us with, through the grants, I second that.
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Thank you.
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Motion in a second.
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Paul Favour?
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Aye, aye.
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Pouchers.
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Do you want to take a break?
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Let's take a break.
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And run to a viewing for a minute before you do the vouchers?
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Let's do this.
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Let's do this please.
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I would make motion in a break to run down to Darwin's meeting.
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He's done a lot of service for the county.
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We're going to take a short break.