[0:02] I'd like to bring the Wedley Barrel Council regular meeting of August 24,

[0:06] 2026 into session. Have a roll call, please.

[0:11] » Vincent Cutterford >> here.

[0:14] » Joseph Cybert >> here.

[0:15] » Tracy Mangle >> here. Jeffrey Miller

[0:18] » here. >> Norman Richie

[0:19] » here. >> Greg Walters

[0:21] » here. >> And Michael Blizzio

[0:22] » here. And I ask everyone to stand for an invocation and pledge of allegiance.

[0:37] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[0:42] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and

[0:47] justice for all.

[0:52] Heavenly Father, we thank you for bringing us together this evening and

[0:56] for the community of Wely that we are privileged to call home. As we begin

[1:01] tonight's meeting, grant us wisdom in the decisions before us, patience to

[1:04] listen to one another, and good judgment as we consider what is best for our

[1:08] residents and for the future of our burrow. We ask for your blessing upon

[1:12] the burough employees, police officers, firefighters, emergency responders, and

[1:17] all those who serve this community each day. Watch over them and their families

[1:21] and keep them safe. Help us to remember that the positions we hold are an

[1:25] opportunity to serve. May we conduct tonight's business with humility,

[1:29] fairness, and respect. And may the decisions we make be pleasing to you and

[1:35] beneficial to the people we represent. We ask for your continued blessings upon

[1:39] Weatherly and all those who call it home. In your name we pray. Amen.

[1:44] » Amen. >> Please be seated. Thank you.

[1:52] I just have an announcement, please, before we get started.

[1:56] Uh last month's meeting, we got into a little bit of a debate back and forth.

[2:01] Um and we we got off topic. So, I'm asking that we don't do that again. Um,

[2:06] anyone that needs to speak can go to the microphone to speak. We know we have the

[2:10] 3minut rule. Uh, and if anyone has a question, you can write it down on a

[2:16] piece of paper that's over there with your information. Um, [snorts] we are

[2:19] leery to respond to some questions because there might be information we're

[2:22] not privy to, but we will get you an answer immediately. And I think that

[2:26] everybody that I told I would get back to last meeting, I got back to them as

[2:30] soon as I did. Thank you.

[2:38] Did everyone get a chance to review the minutes of the regular meeting of July?

[2:41] And can I have a motion to accept those minutes?

[2:46] » I have a motion to accept the minutes from July meeting.

[2:53] » Motion made by Norman, seconded by Jeff. Is that correct?

[2:58] » Yes. >> All those in favor, please say I. I.

[3:01] » Any opposed? Pass. Again,

[3:08] I hope everybody got a chance to review the treasures report. May I get a motion

[3:12] to accept the treasures report as submitted?

[3:16] » I make a motion we accept the burough manager's treasure report.

[3:22] » I'll second. >> Motion made by Joe, seconded by Greg.

[3:27] All those in favor, please say I. I. >> All oppose.

[3:34] Next business, approval of the bills. And I have a motion to approve the

[3:40] bills, please.

[3:45] » See? >> I'll make a mo a motion we approve the

[3:50] uh the bills. >> I'll second.

[3:54] » Motion made by Joe, seconded by Norm. All those in favor, please say I.

[4:00] » All opposed?

[4:06] Um the first paper that I have for tonight is uh from uh Mr. Mclofflin

[4:12] um questioning or not questioning but asking I know you spoke to me recently

[4:16] regarding the online payment fees. Um I guess Mr. McGlaughlin I think I did

[4:22] answer some of your questions privately but um as I understand it this is the

[4:26] operation as it stands right now. If someone brings a check down to the

[4:31] burrow office, there are no fees. If someone brings a credit card for the

[4:35] time being to the burrow office, there are no fees.

[4:39] If someone calls in a credit card uh on the phone or I'm sorry, does it online,

[4:45] there is a 3% fee and a $3 charge. Whichever is greater.

[4:49] » Whichever is greater. >> Whichever is greater. And if someone

[4:52] calls in a credit card, there is the same set of fees. the 3% fee is um

[5:00] charged by the service company that's doing the online payments. We don't net

[5:05] that money. That's just the cost of it. And I know of at least two residents

[5:09] that have been begging dramatic desperately to have that that option.

[5:13] So, as it stands right now, they're they're housebound and it's very

[5:16] difficult for them to get down to the burrow building. So, um I think at this

[5:22] point the menu that's there I think can suit everybody for their needs and you

[5:26] can avoid fees if you wish. It's absolutely great idea. I love it. But

[5:30] there should be a cap off point how much they make off that%. We're going in the

[5:35] winter and some people rely on electricity to be lucky not because

[5:40] $1,000 a month you're paying $30 even Western Union for cheaper.

[5:45] [clears throat] It's ridiculous. It just really is. It should be a cap out point.

[5:49] 3%. Okay. But it should be a cap out point.

[5:55] » We'll continue to look into it, but right now that's where it's set at. And

[5:58] again, as I explained to you, if everybody in town use that fee or use

[6:02] that service, then it could be something we might consider looking at um you

[6:07] know, uh doing something to cover that cost. But because not everybody does it,

[6:11] I just I personally don't see it being fair to apply that to everybody across

[6:15] the board. Um, the second was, uh, the second

[6:19] question here was, uh, are the police 24/7 yet? And I asked Chief Bogart to

[6:24] respond to that. Uh, no, but we've made several steps forward with some

[6:30] part-time hires uh, that we will be back up uh, basically this past Thursday.

[6:38] Very, very few ships that are not going to be covered for the rest of the year.

[6:42] We're pretty much back.

[6:48] » I do not know a question officers at I was wondering 24/7. How close are we

[6:54] being 247 coverage? Uh how much is state police covering us

[6:59] right now? >> Again, as of this past Thursday, very

[7:03] very few. There's probably a handful of ships till the end of the year that I

[7:08] can count that that are that are open. Again, ships they are but for safety

[7:14] reasons but we're we're in really good shape really good shape with the three

[7:18] parts >> thank you

[7:21] » are we moving any of those officers the whole time

[7:26] a >> as we can as we can

[7:30] anyone else have anything >> is the microphone open now

[7:36] » yes sir >> okay I didn't hand in one of those

[7:38] kindergarten papers but I will I have some questions.

[7:44] Is um I I I I have a couple questions, but I

[7:49] don't want to answer because I want I don't want to use up the pizza pizza

[7:52] timer here, but um what's going on with the trail? How far are we with that? Is

[7:58] that going anywhere? Don't answer. And I want to know what's going on with the

[8:02] park. Are we looking to uh get that renovated totally like it was planned?

[8:09] Well, I'm gone 14 months, but nothing's happening with that. Is there anything

[8:16] with taking out the cast iron piping up at Pen Roses, which would have amounted

[8:22] to $500,000 uh to the burrow,

[8:27] and that's why we had a an excavator and we did the water work out at the park

[8:34] and moved the debris that was illegally dumped.

[8:39] um at the park and we moved it down to the

[8:44] uh the trail head where I used to go stock somebody down there which never

[8:50] happened. But anyway, I also want to know in 2024

[8:56] I saw the audit report and [clears throat] we paid the solicitor 24

[9:00] or $25,000. Um and my question is and you can answer

[9:06] these when I'm done. The question is, uh, I was I was running meetings that

[9:13] were done in 20 minutes. So, if you times that by 12, uh, that solicitor was

[9:19] making a lot of money. And, uh, I was just wondering where that came from. And

[9:25] the other thing was the police department. Everybody questions and

[9:29] wants to thank the police for doing a great job. In 2024, it cost us $1

[9:34] million of a police department. We're I already talked to uh people in

[9:41] Harrisburg that said that they could put a state police substation over here and

[9:48] we could collect around $17,000 a month and

[9:55] uh they could cover Packer Township, they could cover Banks Township, Beaver

[10:00] Meadows, they could cover LNL, they could do a lot of things. Lansford is

[10:05] looking to go to Act 47 shortly. Uh there are other uh towns that are

[10:11] eliminating their police departments. They just can't afford them. And now we

[10:16] pay for a local police department. Oh, that's really cute and that's really

[10:21] good. But we're also paying for the Pennsylvania State Police to cover us

[10:26] statewide. And the last thing I have to say, am I

[10:30] almost up with the pizza timer yet? 22 seconds.

[10:34] » Okay. Well, I just want to say I think we stop we we should stop giving power

[10:40] away when we can't pay for the power ourselves.

[10:43] We're giving it to everybody. We give to the hill climb. We give it to the main

[10:47] park. And I know you say that's fundraising.

[10:51] Well, start fundraising for our fire department. They don't get paid.

[10:56] Okay. Music started.

[10:59] » Thank you for your comments. >> Yeah. Thank you for not answering.

[11:06] » I'll call in on the electric. I have no problem paying for our electric counter.

[11:10] » Oh, I know you. >> We could I'll do it. I don't really

[11:14] care. We could cover it.

[11:20] [clears throat]

[11:22] » First order of business is discussion on the online payment for credit cards.

[11:29] I'm not sure if we have to go through that any further than what we just did.

[11:37] » You have to vote on that to accept the current system or anything. Yes,

[11:42] » you probably should, but I guess the question I would probably should, but I

[11:48] thought you couldn't call in with the credit card anymore.

[11:51] » We cannot. They can't call in to the office with the credit.

[11:54] » Right. That's what I say. I thought >> there's an online there's an automated

[11:57] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. That's what I was saying.

[11:59] But you also mentioned calling in. So I thought that was eliminated because it

[12:02] violated some federal law. >> That's calling into the company where

[12:05] you go online and pay. They do phone ones too.

[12:08] » Okay. >> Um should we vote to accept it? Yes.

[12:12] » Sure. Yes. >> Could I have a motion to accept the

[12:16] current uh online payment options?

[12:24] I'll make a motion accepted. >> I'll second.

[12:27] » Motion made by Vinnie, seconded by Joe. All those in favor, please say I.

[12:33] » Any opposed? >> Eyes have it.

[12:37] Next item of business is discussion on Wilbur Street.

[12:43] I would, I guess, ask

[12:47] Mr. Nanovic to respond based on the current information we

[12:52] have. >> Well, when you say the Wilbur Street,

[12:55] this was the woman who had come in. I think it was Eve Scott came in at the

[12:59] last meeting. >> Okay. We now have a survey that you

[13:02] would supplied to us. Thank you. But if you look at the survey, it doesn't show

[13:06] Wilbur Street extending to your property.

[13:08] » I understand that. >> But what I was told back at the time it

[13:13] did. I don't know where Wilbur ended. Yeah,

[13:15] » back in 90 something, you know, but I always had access and

[13:22] people, you know, even being able to come in through that way.

[13:27] » I I I understand that's how you went there before and and frankly, I was

[13:31] expecting the survey to show that Wilbur Street extended to your property and

[13:35] then we could do something about it, but this survey shows actually that it's

[13:39] crossing over railroad property. So,

[13:45] the owner of that property sitting right here.

[13:48] » Yeah. >> Excuse me, sir.

[13:51] » Could you could you mould you go to the mic, please?

[14:01] » This Okay. >> Yes, sir. Perfect.

[14:03] » No. When I bought the >> Announce yourself. I'm sorry. Would you

[14:05] announce yourself so that they have it on record? My fault. Mike Hendrick. I

[14:09] own the the building down there at Wilbur Street. Well, when we were doing

[14:14] that building, we I worked with Harold Pudliner on that. He just got the job, I

[14:19] think, in 96 or something like that. And I asked him about that way between it's

[14:26] an alley they said, but it's actually an easement because there's two seller

[14:31] doors in that alley. You know, you're not going to drive cars over seller

[14:36] doors and that. And it was just an easement for I think the Scots there to

[14:40] get in and out. And we always had a good relationship down there. I used to plow

[14:44] it further than that. And basically, yeah, that's all it was. I don't think

[14:49] that ever was an alley. >> It was It said it on the It was an alley

[14:54] » with that >> on the station.

[14:56] » Well, how could it be an alley with with with uh you know, metal doors in the

[15:01] middle of the >> I used to be able to drive. I don't

[15:04] » Excuse me. We're starting to debate thing again. I I appreciate it. Please.

[15:09] » That's what it was. and he said nobody use that puzzle light item said

[15:13] something but like so many years nobody use it as that so he just told me to do

[15:17] what I want to do >> okay thank you

[15:21] » that was it I guess all I could possibly say and I might speak out of line here a

[15:25] little bit but if there is if there is an easement paper

[15:30] » if there's some some legal paperwork we we'd be happy to look at it but

[15:34] » if there's an easement it should have been shown on the survey that's that's

[15:37] why I'm there would be And so are are you P are you saying

[15:42] you're PA property Owner Solutions LLC? >> Yeah, I own that.

[15:46] » Oh, you're >> Oh, sorry.

[15:49] » Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You're not you're not David Scott. You're okay. And so how

[15:53] long Eve [clears throat] Scott came in and

[15:56] and stated that you're blocking the alley. Are you blocking that alley?

[16:00] » You don't live. You don't live there. >> He was the previous owner of

[16:04] » Oh, you were the previous owner. So Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I never I don't I

[16:07] didn't even >> Okay. So, it's it's not you. It's the

[16:10] new people who are blocking. Okay. >> I never have a problem.

[16:14] » All right. >> Can I get up and talk?

[16:17] » Yes, you may.

[16:27] » It was an alley. My husband and I used to park our car there and be able to

[16:33] drive it out of there because that was off streetet parking for us when there

[16:38] was snow bands. Even back in the day, it drove all the way back to the back of

[16:45] Wilbur Street where the garages are now. You were able to drive through there

[16:50] until Mike put his new sidewalk in through Pud Liner above grade.

[16:58] We were we were going to sue,

[17:02] but it wasn't worth the money and the aggravation because the work had already

[17:07] been done. Never were asked by the, you know, the burrow whether we

[17:13] would allow the alleyway to be obstructed. Never got any of that. came

[17:19] home to find a sidewalk above grade which has caused damage to

[17:24] my property actually over the years because of the rain that washes down

[17:29] Carbon Street, washed away my sidewalks. I also had a time with the burl troop uh

[17:39] will Mr. Wilbur, who wanted to find me $1,000 after he washed away my sidewalk

[17:47] and had got a lawyer for that. Mr. Mscavage, who was the solicitor at the

[17:53] time, told Wilbert to back off because it could cost the burrow a lot of money

[17:58] if we ended up going into court. I never got an easement from him in writing that

[18:05] stated at that point just come in through the back road, you know, that I

[18:11] was always told Wilbur extends out to. If it isn't, then it's Luke Medico's I

[18:17] guess property in the back and maybe I'll have to talk to him about having

[18:21] easement to get out of the back of my property and that's fine.

[18:26] But Mingle has how many times come up

[18:29] through my back property to deliver me dirt,

[18:34] whatever. I've had to take cars out of my yard. There's no way I'm getting it

[18:38] up and out of Carbon Street. So, the only access for me was out through that

[18:44] back area of my property. And of course, now I just have renters

[18:50] there that are just, you know, giving me a hard time. But if

[18:55] I have to go through loop to be able to get easement out of my back property,

[18:59] that's what I'll do.

[19:03] » But that's how this situation has come about. So yes, it's not on my deed that

[19:09] I have easement >> because it wasn't my property to begin

[19:14] with. From what I understood, it was Wilbur Street.

[19:20] » That would have never been on my property. It just shows and you read it

[19:24] on my deed. It said the alleyway. It states it as an alleyway.

[19:32] And yeah, no, Mike and I never really had too much issues except for when that

[19:36] initially happened. >> Gotcha.

[19:39] » So that's it. >> All right. Thank you.

[19:42] » Thank you.

[19:47] Next order of business, discussion and possible motion to approve addendums to

[19:52] the lease option agreements between the Burough of Wedley and the Schwab School

[19:55] Associates regarding the Schwab School and parking area.

[20:01] I think you're best suited to do this if I can remember. But I know we have

[20:06] leases for the Schwab school and we have and for the parking area front and I'm

[20:11] reading this right now. I think the agreement provided they were 45 years

[20:14] and we were contacted by the entity that's leasing it. They said their new

[20:20] legal counsel or new or for financing purposes they need a longer lease. So

[20:25] we're extending it to lease the property for a term of 45 years subject to the

[20:29] terms and conditions option. You shall have an option to extend the term of the

[20:32] lease for one additional period of 30 years. That is for them to pursue this

[20:39] project. They're asking for that extension.

[20:45] » Could I say something about that? >> I I'll extend you that courtesy even

[20:50] though you don't give me any. But thank you.

[20:52] » Cuz I was involved with that lease.

[20:57] [clears throat] Initially, the previous bureau manager

[21:02] uh and I we discussed because the school district and the because the school

[21:07] district wouldn't debate the taxes and the county would debate the taxes.

[21:13] I suggested to Harold that we give them a 10-year lease and lease it to them

[21:20] because that would be an automatic abatement.

[21:22] And I'm not an attorney, but that's exactly what would happen. They would

[21:26] abate the tax because the burrow would still own it until they filled

[21:32] this building with people. So if they filled it in five years after the

[21:37] construction, it would be over with going 45 years. That's that's crazy.

[21:44] You're going to take that off the tax rolls for 45 more years. It's been off

[21:48] the tax rolls and Wesley Burrow has been taking care of that property for years.

[21:55] And my thing when I was sitting in your seat was to get rid of these properties

[22:02] so we don't have to maintain them. That's cost us a lot of money. And I was

[22:07] looking to eliminate all these costs that we're paying to cut grass to take

[22:13] care of snow removal going 45 years. Where does that make sense? And if this

[22:19] council votes to go for a 45 year lease over 10 years, you're nuts. That's all I

[22:26] got to say.

[22:30] » Anybody from council have any discussion regarding this?

[22:33] » Who owns the property now? >> I'm sorry.

[22:36] » Who owns the property? >> We own the property the property. Yeah.

[22:40] » It's not taxable. >> It's not out of tax. Has not been for 10

[22:43] or 15 years and 100 years before that.

[22:48] I I have a question. If we don't approve this, is that going to put an end to the

[22:53] project? Because then we're stuck at that building.

[22:55] » That's what they tell us. Yes. >> So, you can either do it or be stuck at

[22:59] that building. >> Stop with it. Terry School. It only cost

[23:02] a million to be done.

[23:08] » What do you bring to the town? >> We're doing We're doing the thing again.

[23:13] » Whatever happened to the Saber school money? Where is that? Could

[23:25] I speak? >> I They had it. How long? And they've

[23:31] done nothing. So, what's to say they're going to do

[23:35] something in the next 45 years? I don't think we should honor their requests.

[23:40] I'm very sorry. >> Okay.

[23:45] » [snorts]

[23:51] » Well, the way if they wish to exercise the option, they have to notify us by

[23:55] the end of this year. That's what it says. So, if they were do doing this,

[23:59] they have to exercise the option and that's when the lease starts.

[24:05] » I thought they were already leasing it. >> No, no, they just have an option. They

[24:08] just have an option to lease it at this point.

[24:12] Attorney, you you know that the Pennsylvania Housing Finance Agency

[24:17] approved their financing. >> I don't know who approved their

[24:21] financing. >> I know they talked about the Royal Bank

[24:24] of Canada at some point being their financing.

[24:29] They had several sources of their grant money and they had other financing. I

[24:33] mean, it was a multi-million dollar project. Yes, I'm not aware of that. And

[24:38] we had a $250,000 grant to down the annex and I saw a quote for 140,000 and

[24:45] this manager said, "Oh, they bid it and Eliz came in over 250." They never bid

[24:52] it. You guys never bid that. That never happened.

[25:03] Mike, when I questioned that about the school, the gymnasium being ripped down,

[25:09] » you all told me that the people that are buying the school are in charge and they

[25:14] said not to do it, that they would take care of it.

[25:16] » That's correct. >> That was included in their initial

[25:20] package that they were going to include demolition and it looks like now that

[25:24] the burrow will be bidding it out. >> Okay. But it was it was it it was bid

[25:30] out with their initial package and the bids came in extremely high.

[25:35] » Oh, I thought you bid it out. >> I did not bid it out. I said it was

[25:38] » Did we get the $250,000 grant? >> Yes. That was going into

[25:45] » that was going into their package as a as a whole package to to do the whole

[25:50] school.

[25:53] » But that grant was to the bur. >> Yes.

[25:55] » Not to them. Yes, it was supposed to be working with them in conjunction in in

[25:59] the whole project >> doing anything.

[26:01] » Well, it's because the inves they needed investors and

[26:06] they had to find different investors. They had to move things the credits to

[26:11] another year this year. Um and they and they got approval for all of that.

[26:15] » Well, well, Tracy Andrea gave us a quote and you have it in your desk somewhere

[26:21] because I saw it for $140,000. But we had a bid or a grant for 250.

[26:30] Is $140,000 less than $250,000?

[26:35] » I would say >> again, Mr. Hadzik,

[26:38] » it was put in with their initial bid for the whole project. We will be bidding it

[26:44] out now as a separate project. >> We own the property. We can do what we

[26:48] want with it.

[26:54] They give you 45 years to fix it. Is that Is that a

[26:58] » No. No. >> It would take one year to tear it down.

[27:07] [cough]

[27:09] » Sorry. I'm out of control.

[27:13] » I make a motion that we Somebody make a motion that we table this so that we can

[27:18] get some facts together and have a meeting.

[27:21] I'll make a motion that we table this vote.

[27:24] » I'll second. >> All those in favor?

[27:28] » I. >> All opposed.

[27:39] Can I get a motion to adjourn to executive?

[27:43] » I make a motion. Executive. >> I'm sorry.

[27:49] » Please.

[28:00] Okay. Again, my name is Donna Neper. I live at 3314 Street in town. Last

[28:06] meeting, I had discussed the issue with the roosters.

[28:10] We now have more new roosters in town. That's not my main concern. My concern

[28:16] is I brought up the issue of Mr. Braun, you had asked me for an address.

[28:22] Um, Mr. Brun had a discussion with my

[28:27] stepfather uh about

[28:34] the address, by the way, is 647 West Main Street.

[28:38] That's the address. He had a a short conversation with my stepfather stating

[28:45] that the burrow had no right to do anything with his property and every

[28:49] time Mr. Pudliner would send him a letter that he would go to the ACLU. The

[28:56] American Civil Liberty Union has nothing to do with the code enforcement officer.

[29:03] Last Saturday, he came to my parents house. He has not been in my parents

[29:06] house for at least two years. He came there specifically to see what I look

[29:11] like. He has made the statement that if I continue to complain about the blight

[29:16] of his property, he has intentions of suing me. If he sues me, I'm going to

[29:23] turn around and I'm going to sue the burrow and I'm going to sue the code

[29:26] enforcement officer. I have already spoken to a lawyer in Philadelphia,

[29:31] explained the situation, taken pictures of the property, and sent it to them

[29:37] because nobody is doing anything with his

[29:40] property. Nobody. It's this has been going on for years.

[29:44] He used to threaten Mr. Pudliner with the same thing. I'm going to call the

[29:48] ACLU. The AC What the hell does the ACLU have to do with the blight of a

[29:52] property? The other day, Tom went flying up the road in the red truck, turned

[29:58] around and came flying back, never even stopped at that property.

[30:04] Again, I don't want to be redundant, but people are getting letters that their

[30:07] grass is 6 in high, but bronze property is ridiculous.

[30:13] and to threaten me that you're going to sue me if I'm bringing up your property.

[30:19] It's I mean there's probably so many code enforcement laws that he's breaking

[30:23] and nothing is being done. And then you come in my parents house so you can see

[30:28] what I look like when you haven't been there for three years. But he saw my car

[30:33] pulling up into their driveway. So, he came to see what I look like because

[30:37] somebody from last month's meeting texted his wife and said, "Conniey's

[30:44] daughter brought up your house as a blighted property."

[30:49] So, I don't know who who here in the meeting did it, but somebody did it. And

[30:52] I really don't care. But again, he sues me.

[30:59] I will sue the burrow and I will sue the code enforcement officer for turning a

[31:04] You just keep turning your head and nobody wants to do anything with that

[31:07] property. Nothing. I apologize. So, something needs to be

[31:13] done. >> Okay.

[31:14] » I'm just I mean, I'm not threatening. I'm not saying he's going to do it, but

[31:19] if he does because I bring it up, then I have no recourse but to to sue

[31:26] back. >> Okay. and the roosters. Um, the guy that

[31:31] had them, it's I live on Oak Alley, so Paul Stever's on the end and I'm the

[31:38] second house in. So, if you count four houses down from me,

[31:43] he had two young ones and they they were biting him. So, he got rid of them. Now,

[31:48] he has two new ones. And the house, the last house, if you're coming toward

[31:55] Uranate, Uranate Park on Dean Alley, the last house on Dean Alley, he still has

[32:02] his. And I showed them to Tom and Tom saw them

[32:06] while I was in Tom's truck and I showed them to Tom and they're still there.

[32:14] And I don't know how many meetings it may have been before Mr. Pudliner

[32:21] retired, but he did state that the code

[32:26] enforcement

[32:31] [snorts] rule that was written was written in error that you can have up to

[32:35] 20 hens or chickens, whatever. Roosters are not allowed in town. If you go back

[32:41] and look at those meetings, I don't know which one it was, but those were his

[32:45] specific words. Roosters are not allowed in town.

[32:48] » That is true. >> Well, we have more than that on just on

[32:52] Fourth Street. You you ride up several there's some up on West Main Street by

[32:57] where my parents live. >> Okay.

[33:00] » And we keep getting more and more and more. And I don't work. I put my windows

[33:06] up at night, but I don't like getting up at 4:00 in the morning. And these

[33:09] things, I thought they stopped once the light came up. They don't. They crow all

[33:15] day long. >> Okay.

[33:18] » All right. I will I will get back to Tom again. Thank you.

[33:21] » Thank you.

[33:25] » If I get a motion to executive session, please.

[33:29] » I'll make a motion we go with the executive session.

[33:34] » Are we going in executive session or are you adjourning the meeting? I'm sorry. I

[33:38] apologize. Can I get a motion to go into executive session?

[33:41] » I'll make a motion to go into executive session.

[33:45] » Second. >> Anybody?

[33:47] » I'll second. >> All in favor?

[33:51] » All oppose? Pass.

[34:06] » She was here. He came in late actually. >> Yeah, he was over there.

[34:10] » Ask for a motion to adjurnn. Please >> make a motion to adjurnn.

[34:15] » I'll second it. >> Motion made by Norman, seconded by Jeff.

[34:20] » All in favor? >> I

[34:22] » I remember the days with Mrs. G sitting next to me. Now let's get out of

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