[0:00] Welcome

[0:03] to the Village of Westhampton Beach

[0:05] Planning Board meeting.

[0:06] Please stand for the Pledge of

[0:08] Allegiance.

[0:11] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[0:13] United States of America and to the

[0:16] Republic for which it stands, one nation

[0:19] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:22] justice for all.

[0:25] » [clears throat]

[0:35] [laughter]

[0:37] » I sat down over here and I said my We

[0:39] have a resolution for Eric and Mona

[0:42] Green, 24 Meadow Lane. Anybody here for

[0:44] the applicant?

[0:46] >> [clears throat]

[0:47] >> I need a resolute I need a motion to

[0:49] accept the resolution as written.

[0:51] >> Make a motion.

[0:52] >> Second.

[0:53] >> All in favor?

[0:54] >> Aye.

[0:56] >> We've got in our work session agenda a

[0:59] board consideration for Gables at

[1:01] Westhampton LTD.

[1:10] » As you may recall from

[1:12] this project, your

[1:15] approval of the site plan required the

[1:17] posting of a performance bond

[1:19] in order to secure

[1:22] the

[1:23] development of those exterior I think

[1:26] exterior

[1:28] improvements to the site.

[1:30] My client believes that they're finished

[1:33] with that list

[1:35] pursuant to the

[1:37] again pursuant to the decision I mean

[1:39] subject to engineering review

[1:41] and planning review. We believe we're

[1:43] done. The the

[1:45] approval went on to indicate that once

[1:47] that status was achieved, we need to get

[1:50] accepted by the trustees a a maintenance

[1:53] bond and the maintenance bond will be

[1:56] I think it was 1/3 of what the the

[1:58] performance bond was.

[2:00] Uh and I as I understand the process

[2:04] I need you guys to

[2:06] agree that we're done or tell me what we

[2:08] need to finish so we're done and then uh refer that to the uh trustees so that

[2:13] they can uh terminate the one and accept the

[2:17] other.

[2:19] » The the

[2:22] resolution when you first approved this

[2:23] said the performance bond stays in

[2:25] effect until

[2:27] a resolution of completion of the

[2:29] required improvements has been issued by

[2:31] the planning board upon certification by

[2:34] the village building inspector and

[2:36] village engineer that the required

[2:38] improvements have been completed to the

[2:40] prescribed specifications.

[2:43] So,

[2:44] >> Today

[2:45] >> it's up to these guys to certify to you

[2:47] that it's been completed and then you

[2:48] can

[2:50] approve the release of the performance

[2:53] bond subject to the substitution of the

[2:55] maintenance bond.

[2:58] » Yeah, I'm just about done with it. There's two

[3:00] things that were just a dumpster that we

[3:03] still had to leave. There was a bit of

[3:04] sod but

[3:07] the vast majority of the

[3:09] improvements have been completed.

[3:11] >> And the minor things you you're

[3:19] confident that they'll do what you

[3:20] wanted.

[3:20] >> Yes, and I will still have the

[3:22] maintenance bond and I still have

[3:24] many seal

[3:26] So, some of some of this this little

[3:27] areas that we'll talk about aren't next

[3:30] to the units that I promised to seal.

[3:36] » But

[3:37] >> leaving total total money

[3:39] area of work

[3:43] » All the landscaping and everything that

[3:44] we

[3:45] illustrated on our

[3:47] >> Yeah.

[3:49] >> I did.

[3:50] >> Okay, good.

[3:54] Okay.

[3:55] So, we need a motion to um

[3:59] release the performance bond subject to

[4:02] the trustees issuing a maintenance bond.

[4:06] >> I'll make that motion.

[4:07] >> Second.

[4:08] >> All in favor?

[4:08] >> All right.

[4:10] >> Thank you.

[4:10] >> Okay, thank you.

[4:11] >> [clears throat]

[4:14] » And Megan said the

[4:16] >> Wish I could say it was an asset to the

[4:17] neighborhood.

[4:18] >> The trustees need something.

[4:21] >> There are no houses.

[4:22] >> Maybe just do a letter away confirming

[4:24] that the that the meeting

[4:25] >> The planning board

[4:27] >> You know.

[4:28] >> There may be some difference in

[4:29] >> let Anne speak on this?

[4:32] May I let Anne speak on this?

[4:34] >> I just have two questions. Um the road

[4:37] is still flooding terribly when it rains

[4:39] out halfway across Depot Road because

[4:42] they did put in a drain, but it's not

[4:44] draining it.

[4:47] And also um

[4:49] along the back Patio Villas fencing,

[4:51] they had pictures on the

[4:53] uh

[4:54] grand master plans of it of lots of

[4:56] trees,

[4:57] but there aren't trees along there.

[5:02] And the dumpsters by Pergolas,

[5:05] how are they going to get those dumped

[5:06] because the roads are so narrow you can

[5:08] barely turn a car around much less a

[5:10] garbage truck?

[5:13] Maybe that's for the trustees. That's

[5:14] all I wanted to ask.

[5:20] » And we'll maybe look at it when it

[5:22] rains.

[5:22] >> It So, yes, but there was some flooding

[5:24] on Depot Road. There was a couple of

[5:26] things. So, that it was a very

[5:28] protracted

[5:31] period of getting the

[5:33] uh signal changed from the pole that was

[5:35] on there. And so, it's way longer than

[5:37] it should have. So, it took a long, long

[5:38] time to get the final lift of asphalt

[5:40] on. So, both the county and the town,

[5:42] down Southampton, cuz they own Depot

[5:45] Road and maintain it.

[5:47] Um

[5:49] There was one in the last few months

[5:51] that that was settled to their

[5:52] satisfaction and they released the bond

[5:54] to the Southampton Town Supervisor.

[5:56] There was another issue on Depot Road

[5:57] that Ron and I both

[6:00] looked at.

[6:01] North of this development, which I don't

[6:04] think it's

[6:05] >> part of this development or is beyond

[6:07] it.

[6:07] >> There's a long stretch of Depot Road

[6:09] with a dip and there's one one catch basin that's way over

[6:14] capacity right now. And then it's almost

[6:15] filled up on a dry day

[6:17] and every other

[6:18] dry well in this area, including in this

[6:20] development that we're talking about,

[6:22] has 5 6 8 ft of capacity, but there is

[6:25] one overloaded drain

[6:27] a little bit further north over by the

[6:29] Beachwood subdivision that we've

[6:31] identified and needs maintenance and

[6:34] it's something that the town should

[6:35] consider. They might have to add an

[6:37] additional drainage structure

[6:40] >> The town or the village?

[6:41] >> Town.

[6:42] >> Okay.

[6:43] >> The town owns that road, so we've been

[6:44] talking conversation.

[6:46] It is something that we want to address.

[6:48] I don't [clears throat] think that this

[6:49] development

[6:51] has caused it nor do we think that the

[6:53] Beachwood development has caused it. I

[6:54] think it's a

[6:56] It's it's a it's a road design issue.

[6:58] We've had

[7:00] these catch basins, these leaching

[7:02] structures, they need to be cleaned out

[7:03] from time to time and it's very hard to

[7:05] get to all of them and this one is

[7:06] probably just due.

[7:09] » Maybe we can review this landscaping

[7:11] situation, too.

[7:13] And uh

[7:14] >> There were several iterations of the

[7:16] plan.

[7:16] >> Okay.

[7:18] >> An earlier iteration had larger trees

[7:20] along the north fence line and then

[7:22] the plan that was eventually approved,

[7:24] because we remember we amended the

[7:25] landscaping plan,

[7:27] they changed that to be a different

[7:29] package.

[7:31] I think it's substantially complete and

[7:33] matched

[7:34] what the board eventually approved,

[7:37] because there was an amendment, but I'm

[7:38] more than happy to pull that out again

[7:40] and go over it with anyone

[7:43] Of course,

[7:44] regardless the bond situation.

[7:47] Site plan is a living document.

[7:49] This site does not have

[7:51] trees

[7:53] as were designed it would be in

[7:55] violation of of the site.

[7:57] We still have the power over that. So

[7:59] things that are missing I

[8:01] we'll get we'll get it done.

[8:03] >> So Anne, maybe you want to come in and

[8:05] coordinate what you've been looking at

[8:07] and um make certain that

[8:10] >> And the drain is to south of their

[8:12] entrance

[8:13] to the Gables on Depot Road.

[8:15] >> So it's literally on the corner of Depot

[8:17] Road.

[8:17] >> No, it's not on the corner of

[8:19] >> Of course, the gas station.

[8:20] >> It's where you drive into

[8:21] the Gables

[8:24] just south of

[8:25] >> Sounds like a service issue.

[8:27] >> [clears throat]

[8:28] >> I beg your

[8:28] >> Sounds like a service issue on the on

[8:30] the structure itself.

[8:32] >> And it's not built into a curve. It's

[8:34] one you know where there's all these

[8:35] holes and around thing

[8:37] along the road and it's just

[8:40] it's there but the water's not going

[8:41] down. So I guess

[8:42] >> Or it reaches its capacity quickly.

[8:45] >> Town has to deal with it.

[8:46] >> Okay.

[8:47] >> We'll work on that if it's near the entrance as part of

[8:50] this work. We'll figure that out.

[8:53] >> Okay, well I think we're done with this.

[8:56] We're going to move on to a modification

[8:58] of site plan review for Westhampton

[9:00] Country Club.

[9:01] >> Patrick Motts, 54 Montauk Highway for

[9:03] the applicants.

[9:05] Uh good afternoon.

[9:07] >> Good afternoon.

[9:07] >> Um

[9:08] we have submitted all the materials that

[9:10] have been requested of us. Um no further

[9:13] comments were received back and so we

[9:16] are

[9:17] uh waiting either for further remarks or

[9:20] ready to move forward to the next step.

[9:25] » I believe Ron and I signed off on the

[9:27] recent submittal and so the Brad and

[9:29] um I believe there was a resolution

[9:31] prepared and submitted to the board for

[9:33] adoption as well.

[9:34] If the board signs off on making those

[9:36] changes that happen.

[9:39] » Anthony if it's not on the agenda, can I

[9:41] approve resolution that we've already

[9:43] reviewed?

[9:46] » Why not?

[9:48] >> Okay.

[9:49] I need motion to accept the resolution

[9:51] for Westhampton Country Club, 35 Potunk

[9:54] Lane.

[9:55] >> I second it.

[9:55] >> that resolution.

[9:57] >> All in favor?

[9:58] >> Aye.

[9:59] >> Thank you very much. [clears throat]

[10:00] >> Thank you for all your help.

[10:02] >> We appreciate your cooperation.

[10:07] We're doing site plan reviews now. 161

[10:10] Montauk Highway.

[10:13] » Good afternoon, Nicholas. You're an

[10:15] architect. What's What's the little road

[10:16] list happy beach for Marcus Dinchy?

[10:19] Um

[10:19] >> It's a pleasure to see you.

[10:21] >> Happy to see you as well.

[10:23] It's so long.

[10:25] >> I was really worried about you.

[10:27] >> Don't be worried about me.

[10:27] >> You look good.

[10:28] >> Thank you, you too.

[10:30] Um I received this a little while ago

[10:31] from uh email from Megan. Uh

[10:35] 10 items on a list of cleanup stuff that

[10:37] we have to do. Uh the most notable one

[10:39] that I do want to point out was number

[10:40] one, the site plan uh G drawing G001.

[10:45] >> Same three.

[10:45] >> Mistake was made on our site plan for

[10:47] the square footage. We have our

[10:48] apartments at 850 square feet each as

[10:52] noted on the plans uh that I presented

[10:54] to ARB. So, I'll make sure that I'll

[10:56] correct everything that's on this list.

[10:58] Basically, some cleanup stuff on there.

[11:00] Transition between who did the work

[11:02] before was no longer with me, who was

[11:03] doing the work now. Some of the stuff

[11:05] got lost in translation, so. Um

[11:08] if that's okay, I'll have everything

[11:10] back to you by next Wednesday. I believe

[11:13] our deadline is next Thursday. Is that

[11:14] correct for the next hearing?

[11:16] Megan?

[11:17] >> Technically, 10 days. Yeah, but it's

[11:19] hard to do this.

[11:20] >> days, so

[11:21] >> Oh, okay.

[11:22] >> Monday.

[11:24] >> I believe I can have back on Monday.

[11:25] afternoon.

[11:27] Should be There's not that much here.

[11:29] I'll clean it up.

[11:31] >> You got two memos today, right?

[11:32] >> I only got one.

[11:33] >> There was two attached to it. them?

[11:35] >> That's all I got.

[11:36] >> Britain's

[11:37] >> I only even gave you both.

[11:38] >> I have just from Britain and I don't

[11:40] have anything else.

[11:41] >> You got You should have one from Brad.

[11:43] >> Absolutely. That's That's the only one

[11:45] I'm going to address.

[11:46] >> I sent you two attached to it.

[11:47] >> Uh Does anybody have a copy?

[11:49] >> I don't think I drove it.

[11:50] >> You have two? Okay. So, you didn't send

[11:53] >> I think I sent it to Holly. You even

[11:54] forwarded me the application.

[11:58] » I think I

[12:08] » The one I did When you say in the back

[12:09] on the south side?

[12:11] Or the at the west side? The south side?

[12:15] I thought we I don't have that hard.

[12:19] Okay. This one.

[12:21] Okay. I thought we I thought we

[12:22] addressed it. I thought we

[12:24] I'm I'm going to

[12:25] I'll address it. Making Can you do me a

[12:27] favor? Could you forward those to me

[12:28] tomorrow morning, please? Or now?

[12:31] >> [clears throat]

[12:32] >> Okay. Either way.

[12:33] >> You want to draft it directly to you?

[12:34] >> I'll do it right now.

[12:35] >> Please send me Oh, Marcus sent it to me.

[12:36] Yeah, I didn't get the uh second

[12:37] comment, so.

[12:50] And I will I will fix it either that

[12:52] I'll cut the I'll take a foot off the

[12:53] building. I'll do what I need to do to

[12:55] get that to work.

[13:04] Okay. I'll I'll address that. My bad. I

[13:06] mean, that's something that

[13:19] » I think Britain's memo is pretty

[13:23] accurate, too.

[13:26] >> Yeah, Britain's memos

[13:28] >> Yeah. You just dated Yes.

[13:32] Absolutely.

[13:33] >> Windows, roofs, doors.

[13:34] >> Yeah, I'm I'm not going to go through

[13:35] that now.

[13:36] >> So, Nick, okay.

[13:37] >> I can't even read it. So, let me just

[13:39] I'm going to just want to look at one

[13:40] list.

[13:40] >> You want to look at this?

[13:41] >> me a second.

[13:41] >> Mr. Stinger?

[13:43] >> Yeah, he's got it right here.

[13:44] >> I got it on a big screen.

[13:47] >> Well, I

[13:48] >> I run yet to your point I see the door,

[13:49] okay. I'll take care of it. I'll

[13:51] probably wind up moving that door, so

[13:53] make it easier.

[13:54] >> Okay.

[13:55] >> Yeah, I'll I'll move the door cuz I

[13:56] think we tried to address it and I get I

[13:58] think it fell on deaf ears, but I will

[14:00] take care of that. I'll move it to the

[14:01] side.

[14:02] There's no reason to have a door there.

[14:03] >> Okay.

[14:03] >> Good uptake of the memos were

[14:06] We're in a good place. We just have to

[14:08] put everything together, redate it, fix

[14:10] a couple of things.

[14:13] >> I'm all good.

[14:14] >> One code thing though, it seems this

[14:16] parking spot grew back again at the

[14:18] north end.

[14:21] We have that transitional buffer yard 30

[14:23] ft from the property line.

[14:24] >> The north end by Citterella?

[14:27] >> This one this one here?

[14:28] >> Across from

[14:30] north your store northwest.

[14:32] Oh, by me.

[14:33] >> So, the transition area starts does it

[14:35] start from the curve or does it start

[14:37] from our

[14:38] From the property line, okay. All right,

[14:40] so it's that space there. I can make

[14:42] that adjustment.

[14:42] >> The wine store when you went for that I

[14:44] think it was variance involved, so it's

[14:45] >> Right.

[14:46] >> I understand the concept of lining it up

[14:48] with that, but

[14:49] >> Well, it doesn't line up. It it actually

[14:51] goes a little southward of that. Um but

[14:53] I will make sure that we have our 30 ft.

[14:55] >> Okay.

[14:55] >> What's the issue from here to here?

[14:57] >> From property line.

[14:59] to that.

[15:00] >> It's 30 ft. Buffer so we have to lose

[15:02] that parking spot.

[15:03] >> Possibly or

[15:05] fix whatever I need to do there. I'll

[15:06] fix that.

[15:09] I think we're over here anyway.

[15:10] We'll be okay.

[15:12] >> You have more than enough parking.

[15:12] >> We have enough parking. Yeah, we have

[15:13] more than enough parking.

[15:14] >> Yeah, we just

[15:17] >> [clears throat]

[15:18] >> The more the more the better, you know.

[15:19] >> All right.

[15:20] Yeah, I think it was pretty I just

[15:22] didn't Ron's comments again, so I

[15:23] apologize for that.

[15:25] >> Okay. It's nice to see you guys. Thank

[15:26] you for coming in. Thank you for your

[15:28] cooperation.

[15:29] >> Any questions on that?

[15:29] >> You're very welcome.

[15:30] >> Uh anybody have any questions?

[15:32] >> I do.

[15:33] >> I'm sorry.

[15:33] >> Nick, your apartments 850 square feet.

[15:35] I'm assuming they're one-bedroom

[15:37] apartments, correct?

[15:38] >> One-bedroom apartments, yeah.

[15:40] >> I mean from from the standpoint of

[15:41] health department, it doesn't matter.

[15:43] The number is whatever that number has

[15:45] to be on the deed.

[15:46] >> Yeah.

[15:46] >> Certain square footage to keep us going.

[15:48] >> Based on 850.

[15:51] >> 1,200 square feet doesn't make a

[15:52] difference.

[15:52] >> Mhm.

[15:53] >> Um or we're in the 600 square feet,

[15:54] that's a studio.

[15:56] So, but in this case,

[15:58] we're 850, so.

[15:59] >> Okay.

[16:00] >> Thank you.

[16:02] >> Anybody else have any questions?

[16:04] >> No.

[16:04] >> Okay. Well,

[16:07] All right.

[16:09] Um

[16:09] we're now going to have a secret

[16:10] discussion on Brenda Osterreicher, 220

[16:14] Dune Road.

[16:22] » Well, this is this

[16:23] Look, we we had the discussion last time

[16:25] we started it.

[16:26] And we wanted you guys to think about

[16:28] it.

[16:29] Um it's the the initial question is

[16:33] who's going to act as lead agency. So,

[16:38] have you thought more about it? Do you

[16:39] have feelings about it?

[16:42] >> Speaking for myself, I have. I guess the

[16:44] thing to do at this point is to poll the

[16:47] um

[16:48] the board.

[16:49] Find out where we sit on this. Is that

[16:51] the correct procedure?

[16:53] >> Sure.

[16:55] >> Mr. Rocker, we're going to start with

[16:56] you.

[16:57] >> Okay.

[16:57] >> Cuz you're right next to me now.

[17:00] » I gave it a lot of thought. And I think

[17:02] based on the considerations, I think we

[17:04] should take lead agency.

[17:07] That's my thoughts.

[17:09] >> Okay.

[17:10] >> Just so we have a little bit more

[17:11] control.

[17:15] » I like the I like to be lead agency

[17:18] myself. You want to be the lead agency?

[17:21] >> Yes, I think it's our responsibility to

[17:23] be lead agency.

[17:26] » Okay.

[17:28] Well, far be it from me to uh

[17:29] >> You don't even have to speak.

[17:30] >> Well, just so you know, I mean, you you

[17:32] guys have the choice to

[17:35] exercise it. The zoning board, we will

[17:37] ask them next week what their feelings

[17:39] are. There There are

[17:42] I've never seen it in this village, but

[17:44] there are times when two different

[17:47] involved agencies want to be lead

[17:49] agency.

[17:51] We'll see what they say. If they do,

[17:53] there's a resolution

[17:55] mechanism for it that I think it's

[17:58] actually the DEC that decides if there's a

[18:01] dispute among involved agencies.

[18:03] >> Cool.

[18:03] >> It's like an appeal to the DEC, and the

[18:05] DEC would make the decision.

[18:07] >> wondering about that. Yeah.

[18:08] >> We could do it as a test just to see

[18:10] what

[18:11] >> [laughter]

[18:12] >> No, I I've no idea what the the zoning

[18:14] board will say.

[18:15] >> That's what I was going to say.

[18:15] >> Whether they care or don't care. So,

[18:17] >> Well, I mean,

[18:18] historically, the zoning board hasn't

[18:20] really taken lead agency.

[18:22] >> That's true.

[18:23] >> And I can't even remember. Do you?

[18:27] >> Um

[18:34] » Was that coordinated?

[18:40] Yeah, I don't know. All right. Well,

[18:41] this board is um electing to seek

[18:45] the uh secret privilege.

[18:47] >> And what if you let the zoning board

[18:48] >> We'll let the zoning board know, and

[18:51] if they care, we'll we'll

[18:53] do that dis- that that mediation,

[18:56] whatever process it is, and if not, then

[18:59] at the next meeting, um we will initiate

[19:04] the lead agency process, which requires

[19:07] you to send out notices, and what

[19:11] >> Okay.

[19:11] >> Not for the next meeting.

[19:13] The next meeting they'll actually take

[19:15] the dates

[19:16] >> No. No, no. Send out the notices

[19:18] requesting lead agency. It's a It's a

[19:20] process we have to solicit all the

[19:22] involved agencies and make a formal

[19:24] request

[19:26] that you act as lead agency. They then

[19:28] have a

[19:30] Cuz we didn't do that yet.

[19:31] >> No.

[19:32] >> So.

[19:33] Yeah.

[19:34] So, that would be the the next step.

[19:40] » See what the zoning board has to say.

[19:41] >> We'll discuss it and then the next It's

[19:44] 2 weeks for the meeting.

[19:45] >> No, it's the the next So,

[19:47] >> Zoning board is next week. So, in 2

[19:49] weeks, if the zoning board says they

[19:51] don't care,

[19:52] then in 2 weeks

[19:54] >> the action at the following meeting.

[19:56] >> process. We'll identify the involved

[19:58] agencies.

[19:59] >> Right.

[20:01] >> 30-day response window for that one.

[20:03] >> Right.

[20:08] » Now, do we always send out notices when

[20:11] we do secret?

[20:13] >> Yes. When you coordinate review

[20:14] >> make this so seamless. You make us look

[20:16] good.

[20:17] Thank you.

[20:18] >> [laughter]

[20:19] >> Sometimes we try to do solicitation for

[20:22] lead agency and sometimes we have

[20:24] clients that are substantially complete

[20:26] so things are simple. We kind of send

[20:28] it, "Hey, by the way, this looks like

[20:29] our plan, too. Will you do both?" And

[20:31] sometimes the county planning commission

[20:34] give us

[20:35] >> Just initially.

[20:36] >> The lead agency also we find feeling

[20:37] it's a programmatic declaration. We get

[20:40] something like that great, but usually

[20:42] it's a two-step process. First, we

[20:44] solicit solicit for lead agency and

[20:46] they'll come back and says that's fine

[20:48] and then when the plan is in good shape

[20:50] from the lead agency standpoint, then we

[20:52] do our referral against those same

[20:54] involved

[20:57] » Mr. Yun, do you have any comments you

[20:58] would like to add to this process?

[21:00] >> No.

[21:01] Look forward to whoever decides to do

[21:03] >> [laughter]

[21:05] >> Well said.

[21:07] The diplomatic response.

[21:09] >> in the middle. Very nicely done.

[21:11] >> [laughter]

[21:14] » Place your bet on that.

[21:15] >> All right. Well, thank you very much and

[21:17] I guess we'll have that discussion next

[21:19] time.

[21:21] Um

[21:23] we have minutes to accept the minutes of

[21:25] July 23rd. I need a motion to accept the

[21:28] minutes as written.

[21:29] >> Make that motion.

[21:31] >> We have a future meeting on August 27th

[21:33] and I guess we should be discussing the

[21:35] agenda for that with Britain.

[21:37] >> We don't have the agenda set yet. We'll

[21:38] be discussing

[21:40] >> I need a motion to close the meeting.

[21:42] >> I'll make that motion.

[21:43] >> I second.

[21:43] >> favor.

[21:44] >> I.

[21:45] >> Thank you, gentlemen.

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