[0:26] there are a couple of agendas up here if anyone has any questions.

[0:34] It is 545 until I 30 it and I've got all of the point of civil authority, I have a

[0:40] question and stirred of order and the first item or the second item is the PC8

[0:48] organization left in a chair and a vice chair.

[0:52] But

[0:55] I will pay the nomination as a chair.

[0:59] I nominate Sarah Waldo's chair.

[1:04] That's what we have to do.

[1:07] Susan, second minute, thank you.

[1:13] So, well, though, more nominations.

[1:17] So, well, those have been nominated for chair at the PCA.

[1:23] All those in favor.

[1:27] So, well, though, I think you're taking over this meeting now.

[1:33] Sorry.

[1:37] So I want to get back to the show.

[1:53] I'll talk to you if you think I'm going to get to the show.

[1:59] You're a good friend.

[2:03] I have to have that work.

[2:38] Yeah, like what he said, I don't know, I think they said more than I've never done it.

[2:46] Janette, look at it.

[2:47] Yes, it is.

[2:50] Thank you, Naomi.

[2:53] So now we have another emotion.

[2:55] Yes, you have a vision.

[2:57] I do that.

[2:58] You know, you know, start now and you're done.

[3:00] I don't know.

[3:00] I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[3:03] But you some stuff.

[3:05] First time.

[3:07] Let's go.

[3:08] Thank you.

[3:24] So

[3:30] the next item on the agenda is the election of a vice chair. So I will take nominations with that position.

[3:41] everybody.

[3:43] I know many, can I know many? Sure, can I? I know many seasons

[3:46] I love. Let's first share.

[3:52] I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Thank you. And the other

[3:57] nominations.

[4:00] Can I do a bad, of course, in January?

[4:04] I think all those in favor of

[4:09] the nominee for Vice Chair, Susan Barlow on the side. Anyone opposed?

[4:18] Okay, because the chief Susan, sorry. Thank you. Thank you, Susan.

[4:24] The next item on our agenda is the acceptance of the October 24 meeting minutes.

[4:37] So I don't know if everyone's had a chance to remember that.

[4:47] Everybody ready to accept.

[4:50] So all those endeavours accepting the minutes of the October.

[4:56] I have two different dates here.

[4:59] I've been watching them be accepted.

[5:01] Okay, we didn't.

[5:02] Um, up to 28 and on the agenda, but for example, with 30, I buy air is actually 28.

[5:10] The units on the agenda lose the 24, so that's the 28.

[5:17] Okay.

[5:17] I think the meeting was at 24.

[5:20] On the agenda, it says also three different dates, lawyer. Really block it right here.

[5:27] Um, what do you want to say?

[5:27] Thanks, Morrison.

[5:30] Okay, we have all those two minutes.

[5:32] In the minutes of whatever day that I was out.

[5:35] And I will.

[5:36] Pat Boss.

[5:37] All right.

[5:37] That's it.

[5:39] Chocononia.

[5:40] Well, actually, if you weren't at that meeting,

[5:43] we can't,

[5:44] yep, a prouver discipline.

[5:46] So those were the meeting,

[5:47] and just the necessity.

[5:48] Okay.

[5:49] Approved.

[5:53] Okay.

[5:54] So,

[5:54] It's a new business, well, what is the checklist on number five I've heard of?

[6:00] The checklist is, can you put out, notice to the BCA?

[6:08] Any more names that have moved from the town?

[6:11] It should be challenged.

[6:14] And so I should do that.

[6:17] Can you say to the email that asked the BCA,

[6:21] if they approved me sending the challenge letters?

[6:24] there were very few responses. So I can't really challenge voters without VCA. It's a state

[6:31] statute that will be CA, challenge voters. So I really can't do it. It's supposed to be 30 days before

[6:38] in the election. I still have plenty of time to challenge voters, but you flashed you the

[6:43] where the checklist and we deal.

[6:48] Do you have a list of ones that have moved?

[6:50] One of the whole checklist.

[6:51] No, no, I don't have.

[6:53] I'm not that.

[6:54] You also get, let me get the check.

[6:56] Yeah, we go here and see who passed away,

[6:58] because obviously, we've all been there.

[7:00] I can't vote.

[7:01] We're in any book, and then we look at it and say,

[7:04] if we move the way, then we send new blood.

[7:07] But normally, with several people who passed away,

[7:11] that the open is going to call and come up and it's all passed.

[7:13] Well, general, you get a, that's certificate.

[7:17] So I, that's certificate is kind of a mistake,

[7:20] and I do approach voters that have died

[7:23] that have passed away.

[7:25] So do you want us to review this now?

[7:29] Is that the plan?

[7:30] It did, though, but maybe it's better to send you a list of, was it done one? Yes.

[7:38] But we can take some more.

[7:39] Yeah, yeah, it is.

[7:41] No, no, no.

[7:42] I mean, we're working for an election.

[7:44] Yeah, but it doesn't want to be.

[7:45] I don't want to tell you this.

[7:48] No more of them.

[7:48] I have to do it.

[7:50] And without, without a sense, we're in some kind of group.

[7:53] So, I think it's 90 days before that, I think we have a number.

[7:58] that we legislated by the election. It's not a big announcement, but it's always so

[8:04] late. Yeah. So also, I think that's the list of those people that came back to the mail

[8:13] that we're challenging and to see what everyone thinks. And then we would just respond to you

[8:20] like we're going to leave. Right. And the other, the other thing, the energy challenge is if you haven't

[8:26] voted if a voter has voted within two years, we challenge those people also seems may be

[8:32] extreme, but we haven't voted in an election in two years that we challenge them.

[8:38] Good 10 years?

[8:39] Yes.

[8:39] Is that a safe regulation?

[8:41] No idea.

[8:41] Yes.

[8:42] Yes.

[8:42] We're doing various saves every time.

[8:45] It might have done.

[8:46] We do a better job.

[8:47] We do a better job.

[8:48] We do a better job.

[8:50] We do a better job.

[8:53] We do a better job.

[8:54] We do a better job.

[8:55] We do a better job.

[8:55] I don't know.

[8:58] Yeah.

[8:59] It's not a moment.

[9:00] No.

[9:01] What are you going to say?

[9:02] I don't know.

[9:03] I can't remember your life.

[9:05] You go through it.

[9:06] Right.

[9:06] It's your next two actions.

[9:07] Actually, it's two general actions.

[9:09] Tell us, you know, probably actually four years that you've not voted.

[9:12] You're too scared.

[9:14] I'm not scared.

[9:15] Right.

[9:16] I'm not too scared.

[9:17] Do you have copies of that?

[9:20] I have the checklist here.

[9:22] I don't have that.

[9:22] I don't have a coin down.

[9:30] I'm just having four, yeah, they don't.

[9:33] If anybody wants to, you're going to send us the list of the checklist.

[9:37] I'm sorry.

[9:38] Everyone lives at the challenges of a child.

[9:40] I don't know.

[9:41] I don't know.

[9:42] I don't know.

[9:43] But not the whole checklist.

[9:47] I can give you.

[9:49] This is the whole checklist right here.

[9:51] There are four of them.

[9:52] But you're not going to send the whole child.

[9:53] You send you the whole checklist if you want.

[9:56] How do you know some food?

[9:58] We usually get a ballot back.

[10:01] Oh, the ballots from the November election came back

[10:04] as non-deliverable.

[10:06] And you also, we haven't had issues detected.

[10:09] Some depth were low.

[10:10] They came back and we're all under that end of this.

[10:13] That's a good one.

[10:14] Kelly doesn't give me that information,

[10:16] but it could be.

[10:18] That's for that.

[10:19] You're been married in the uniform.

[10:47] Okay, so okay now with the

[10:51] Checklist review everybody's vote on that. Yes, thank you. Okay, so we have the new business of the tax assessment appeal from great river hydros and I guess we don't have that.

[11:05] So send here. She is not. I wasn't sure about it. Business.

[11:14] She's.

[11:16] The notices went out in the 21st of July, it was delivered to the West Little Mass, but someone has to sign for it and no one signed for the return reason to be passed it.

[11:29] So, she was actually here talking today to the listeners.

[11:33] Yes, so.

[11:35] But she knows about the meeting.

[11:37] Well, I don't, she does know about the meeting now, because I emailed her, but I'm not sure if she knew about it when she talked to Rachel and John today.

[11:47] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[11:53] no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[11:58] no.

[12:04] She's in there, where I'm just going to meet with the situation.

[12:09] We wasn't really, I think that she was trying to convince us that I was going to

[12:14] really ask him to just say, to show the visit that I think was, for instance,

[12:20] we were going to say, I was just meeting as much as we were going to say this.

[12:24] So I think she said, you know, especially when I met you,

[12:27] they were going to see you in the last class.

[12:28] So, I did it for this morning because I did not, we see it, we turned, we see you pass the path from the post office, it was delivered on the 24th, she said she had not, we see that she asked me to send her the meeting notice and the procedure left, I did, she asked, she's going to 10 by zoom, she said she'd like.

[12:50] She doesn't show up with that.

[12:55] Uh, from Rachel, I thought we would, or you would decide on what she wrote, but, right, because she doesn't have to attend.

[13:06] Uh, African is not required to attend.

[13:08] It's a lady, whatever material we're about the lady has to choose one.

[13:17] So we're aware of the little vibe to the music, but she's the one who's playing.

[13:25] It's not, I don't feel.

[13:28] It's like, you know, I'm the presence.

[13:32] Do you like about that?

[13:33] I don't think so.

[13:34] Yeah.

[13:36] I think I'll just talk just a little louder.

[13:40] Back in Toronto, of course.

[13:42] I don't know.

[13:42] Maybe you could stand out so I don't get to it.

[13:45] Yes.

[13:45] So I cannot have a little explaining what flowage is meant is,

[13:53] as I don't really have a similar look.

[13:58] It's something like, if there should be a flood,

[14:01] It's caused by a dam that's under the auspices and running from a hydro that affects the

[14:08] process of land and investments to, they've essentially paid us in advance by aimless taxes

[14:14] for this piece of land on funding for the sender manager, and that's been done.

[14:19] So they consider it that we should have as far as it.

[14:26] So the understanding of flow achievements and how much they might be valued at is far beyond the scope of the world of visitors.

[14:34] It's beyond the scope of our contractive assessor I will show with an impact in 2012 to 2013.

[14:42] a state of the hot, higher, well-fied necessity to do the whole regular high zone,

[14:51] such as, oh, up and down, there are coals, and then convert the housing.

[14:59] What do they call?

[15:00] And the state then provided towns with the value that that, for example, the signs to see was that the public meeting, what was on the signs to see, okay, I don't remember his first name, so that's an individual.

[15:15] And he gave us the value of what they mean, six, whatever, $1,560, $1,569,600.

[15:29] right on those. And so the state told the various towns, this is the, this is the values

[15:35] that this assessors have done for each town had the discretion to take that,

[15:41] the value of the value that they hope to use all of. And within the listers of Westminster

[15:48] didn't take the number, they took the $10,000 dollar down that kind of a new sense before a regular

[15:57] I've got all of that project.

[16:00] Um, I don't know what I'm going to say, I was a few of that.

[16:02] And what year was that?

[16:03] This was 2013, but I couldn't.

[16:05] Um, 2013.

[16:08] What happened?

[16:08] Well, in 2013, they came in and then said that we made them the state.

[16:14] Because the way the gravity works, they got cupping, water level, fire, and the development.

[16:19] But then it was, the water came all of the health.

[16:21] So they came along and said, it's about 100 foot plane level.

[16:26] It was called 100-year-old blood, where I worked in 1888.

[16:30] It was all just below the quilt, and it came back

[16:32] and said, oh, no, we're off.

[16:35] Well, I think I'm giving you right.

[16:36] I think it was almost 10 feet.

[16:38] And what you've been saying, well, this is going to be devastating.

[16:41] Because now they're living in the land

[16:42] where there's a lot left because now it's a quilt.

[16:46] So we've been arguing, and I would rather

[16:47] as all that fire land that is because of the data,

[16:52] that all that land is worth a lot of us.

[16:54] And that's what they're trying to come back to saying, okay, kind of, the question is, there's not getting the two paths to show it, because it's way under value, because that is the value of the land, it's wetland.

[17:06] If there's longer reasons, wetland does the dam is made into the wetland.

[17:10] You see what I'm saying?

[17:11] That's what I said.

[17:12] That's what I think I'm going to say.

[17:13] Why have we not spoken for some help on the dam, because they're the ones that devoured all that.

[17:21] And that's kind of where I saw a company.

[17:25] But the listeners at that moment said,

[17:27] oh, we're going to keep the $10,000 value.

[17:31] And I think we'll happen in between.

[17:34] And then this year for the first time,

[17:36] the state of Vermont provided the all the towns

[17:40] with all of our new 2,000s.

[17:43] So we're not, we're, we've got a chart that's said for,

[17:48] how are this much and it's a very solar project with values this and we're just supposed to

[17:55] plug these numbers in. Being both an orient with the state and ignorant of how we do it is

[18:03] should we value our technologies, put those numbers in and then of course the difference between

[18:09] 10,000 and a million five to us is noticeable and so.

[18:23] But so, remember Hydro didn't attend the grievance hearings.

[18:28] They sent a letter, which I guess was a corporation there.

[18:32] about today, about how I talk to many people that aren't attached to us because I have no

[18:41] way of knowing whether we should allow the movements or not, I don't know what you're saying.

[18:47] I wasn't the one who gave the value of that. And so, at some point, frustratingly, the state, nobody

[18:59] at the state, nobody in the Department of Taxis would say to me, it shouldn't be this

[19:03] value. You know, you should keep this value, you should deny the movements. They said,

[19:08] all we can do is provide this information. You can't remain. What you should do, and fact. So

[19:14] what I said to sorry was, there was a 90 degree, so we could move forward in process. And somebody

[19:22] had a higher pay rate than the more investors would have to figure out what to do. So that's

[19:28] I said, what does that 1.5 million mean to the town?

[19:33] It's about $38,000 in terms of her dear.

[19:39] Right, so if we had changed that number in 2013,

[19:43] it was added up quite a bit over the years.

[19:46] Just for one year, it's not a huge amount.

[19:50] But if we change it to that amount, it stays that for some time.

[20:09] And then we found out afterwards we were just led by them there, because the towns and the

[20:24] level behind and Vermont on the Kenneker River is moved on the

[20:27] Amtra. Whenever good answers, we're going to wear a lot of

[20:30] chains of batteries. So it all changed and this happened.

[20:35] We're going to like that. That means like,

[20:37] Facebook or had to build a building up higher. But so you'll do

[20:40] things that aren't way in all that, that can't be developed or

[20:44] so you take it. So remember what it is, but in some

[20:47] months on, you're not there to help. So we're losing all that

[20:53] So the other thing that I could tell you is that Westminster is not the only town, either to have decided against changing their value in terms of a team in the state,

[21:04] a lot about rule number, or to now being in the phase of protests from great with a

[21:12] cyclone. So other towns are also back in with this. And the state, so here's where I'm

[21:19] OK, but that is that we're sort of sort of going to reject the appeal and people move along to a

[21:30] we are, you know, negotiate with the real get actual information.

[21:36] It's always saying their letters, they don't keep it in 10,000.

[21:39] They don't explain why 10,000 is the right value,

[21:42] and more than we can explain.

[21:45] I think it's a lengthy line.

[21:46] I mean, the sign is the right number.

[21:49] So, make people who actually don't talk about robots and come in front of them

[21:54] something, and what greater than a high-growth law, it's really, is to be able to know, over

[22:00] several new communities, what their tax by the world is going to be. They're not necessarily

[22:06] stuck on the 10,000, but they just don't want it to do suddenly a million. They want to know what

[22:13] some people, but hope at the time the circle will sign and bring it like a three-year-old family

[22:18] in the exam, whatever we establish as a civil act to value.

[22:24] The one out of piece of information is in 2016,

[22:27] the town of Warfully was in this room.

[22:30] But they bought a different, different, different, different, non-sensor, so that I can't remember the rule of the bill.

[22:37] We assess it, but they came up with a different model for how to value this, this flow, just to be with these new situations.

[22:45] And they came to a agreement with the town, who I served with, but suddenly we're in between.

[22:51] They're not, obviously, they're not much more exactly the same in the South.

[22:54] But it was a similarly high value, they're one of the things.

[22:58] So they, regular hydro water, is claiming that the 2013 method that was used is not legitimate.

[23:08] The specific court allowed water firms to put the paper, they found the paper, whatever.

[23:15] And said, it was just so good to me.

[23:19] So that's possible.

[23:20] And they can go.

[23:22] They can continue on there.

[23:23] peanut that has been denied here. They can go, yes, fist-taste, and to

[23:27] explain, don't want to go to school, but they won't think it's for us,

[23:30] us came, or cost of their name, or for us for how much of this for one year,

[23:35] they just want to deal with it. They want to get it settled for once and so.

[23:39] So I think we'll just find, I don't know if I have to pull out to move that,

[23:43] but I'll move that and just deny them and then go take it to the next step,

[23:47] and it gives them more additional work.

[23:52] I think she's not on here, so I think you can, I mean, they're not, yeah, to be present.

[24:01] So yeah, I mean, the healing wasn't until 630.

[24:04] It's all, I don't mean that's all right.

[24:05] I know, I thought the healing was at 6.

[24:08] No, I think it just is 630.

[24:11] Great.

[24:12] We were hiding over that 630.

[24:13] Oh, we don't know.

[24:15] Sorry.

[24:16] But you're telling me hearing that this one.

[24:22] We have to, we have to still have a discussion committee to go out and to go back in 30 days.

[24:33] We can't just say no.

[24:35] We have to actually have the discussion committee to go out with us and that in 30 days.

[24:42] I mean, it's a new spectrum, and then we know that.

[24:49] It's gotten the right to be a customer.

[24:51] They walk up above and now go a group.

[24:53] That's true.

[24:55] That's true.

[24:56] That's true.

[24:56] Yeah, that's true.

[25:00] That's true.

[25:01] That's true.

[25:02] That's true.

[25:03] That's true.

[25:05] That's true.

[25:06] Wait a minute.

[25:07] One person at a job is in the finish.

[25:10] So they have, like, how I want to think of it,

[25:12] which had this fairly, as we did in the day, and then outlawed it,

[25:15] though we recorded more of a set of authority,

[25:18] more of a set of authority, got a discussion communities,

[25:20] then out of still following the wall of the set of the speakers.

[25:23] I would think that we're gonna end up,

[25:26] I don't know what the expression could be,

[25:27] is them trying to find, baby.

[25:31] So, I was one more together, but I was like,

[25:33] Domestead, and then out of the way,

[25:36] we were hiding on a list,

[25:37] she's kind of sat down, mulled over to stop,

[25:40] came with a phrase, and then the Civil War

[25:43] before it's like part of a separate argumental.

[25:46] So that's another point that I have to know more.

[25:49] Look at them, but we still do that,

[25:51] so we have to have that inspection.

[25:53] Thanks, then.

[25:54] I think that's all I need to say, sir.

[25:55] What is it?

[25:56] We have the flood map.

[25:58] So normally, we can do it if you take the flood map.

[26:01] And you say, here's all the land and flood.

[26:03] So let's say it comes back to undernaging

[26:05] and encourage us up there.

[26:07] You can get all the realtor and say,

[26:09] There's 180 years of concern. What is the peace of land? It's what, what's on

[26:14] where it's compared to something that isn't possible. And that's a good way to

[26:20] at least, we have to look at it. And land is the land. It's just, it's just,

[26:25] certainly not that land that the value is, we might need to go to the value, but

[26:29] the social, we're going to go to the value rather. It's a good way to go to the value.

[26:33] Well, yes, but we don't, so we have a lower cat, what they're saying,

[26:39] people are going to subsidize the lower bats, see what I'm saying?

[26:43] They're going to fall along and said, all that way,

[26:45] we're not getting up past because it's in blood.

[26:48] Right, right, right, right.

[26:49] So now the height, we'll say, well, we're the ones that cause it to be in the blood zone.

[26:52] So we're going to subsidize what, what's the area between,

[26:56] off the soil and down the rocks.

[26:59] They're in the blood zone, the ladies.

[27:01] So they're paying less tax, $10 per acre in what's the difference if it wasn't in the

[27:06] plug-off.

[27:07] And I don't think you're looking at it and you're looking at the chat, that's what's

[27:11] this and kind of further out how many acres does it need to be in the plug-off?

[27:15] You can go through the hard-of-the-hunter solution, right on the fast point of where they're going

[27:19] up with these numbers.

[27:20] I'm sure if they're going, I hate to listen to what it's worth, they can negotiate with

[27:24] you.

[27:25] You know?

[27:25] Okay.

[27:26] And I think as a point of order,

[27:29] the medicine just as a medicine in Sample,

[27:32] they didn't go before you can see it.

[27:35] It's a good vendor.

[27:37] I know that, it has humble hoardings of these things.

[27:40] So we have to follow our pursuctions.

[27:43] Right, I think that means

[27:44] how everybody do these images in that action and getting

[27:48] and then come back as a warning for the Internet

[27:50] or whatever the decide.

[27:52] Because Dumperson just made a deal with some of the turns

[27:54] is that how does this have a blackboard, right?

[27:59] So the basic report too, there is that.

[28:01] Just there's a way that you'll set down and find out.

[28:04] OK.

[28:05] OK.

[28:05] So accordingly, when there's BCA and the BCA set down in inspection,

[28:10] I think that because they have the ammeter formal appeal

[28:14] to the BCA, right, we have to follow our normal system.

[28:17] OK, that's true.

[28:19] That's even.

[28:20] But is it does it does it very logical that the inspection

[28:23] would actually be inspection of maps. We don't know what I'm walking around. We are actually looking at maps.

[28:36] So the inspection is rather silly down to the next.

[28:39] Yeah, I'm going to be disappointed.

[28:41] And I'm going to be looking at the flood back.

[28:44] Yeah.

[28:45] Asking what that acreage is.

[28:48] The asking, as you said, what the difference is in a tax value between input and

[28:53] output.

[28:54] And then that will represent what they're essentially, but the value that they are taking.

[29:01] And it's quite possible.

[29:03] I mean, that we don't know.

[29:04] And we can just deny it to that.

[29:06] for each of those to the next step, too, which we did at one of the things that are sold

[29:12] at a bar in the first 20 to 10. I don't know, when you need to be all of that, and we work

[29:18] a quick business of recedes, and I'm just going to have a value of that, and this is a

[29:22] night, and I'm not going to like further on, and we let the state decide. So we have a couple of choices

[29:30] here with a point of our inspection committee, get a whole bit of these maps and talk to a

[29:39] wheelchair, or whatever wheelchair that committee's the left to figure out those numbers

[29:45] or just deny it because we're not, we're not.

[30:00] We post together an inspection committee of minimum three people when we have had the tax appeal, that committee, it's not the listeners, per se, that committee goes out and does an inspection.

[30:15] So that, if we appoint a committee as appointed, that committee is responsible for getting these maps and getting the, you know,

[30:29] contrasting land values. So what we're trying to do is get rid of the $10,000 to $10,000 to $1,000, but I don't think we're trying to do that.

[30:38] I think yeah. We're really in buy right now. What we'll have to do is satisfy the requirement.

[31:07] I don't want to, I don't want to, to denigrate anybody's ability to learn this really, really quickly.

[31:14] I do question, I mean, it seems to me that there's a lot of expertise that is needed in order to, in order to, to fairly evaluate this question.

[31:28] And I myself do not feel like I have it.

[31:33] trying to point out though it's really between the list of the list of the list

[31:38] we're not beyond the limit because they're the ones that set it away. So the

[31:45] committee we can, what we're right here for now, and what's fair, what will the

[31:49] list of the correct, or they're correct, or somewhere in the middle. So yeah, so

[31:54] either I think our choice of either go with what the list would say in the

[31:58] 1.5 for involvement meeting, you'll little or more research and come back.

[32:02] That's done.

[32:05] Right, that's good, John.

[32:07] We're going to think we have to inform many, I think that's probably true.

[32:11] Right.

[32:12] Right.

[32:12] So I think we should inform the committee.

[32:15] And then the committee then do whatever they want to do.

[32:20] I guess they come back and kind of let's check some maps.

[32:23] They did.

[32:24] maybe there's a research and a list of that, then we go over there,

[32:31] meeting that then we vote on what we're going to accept as a law.

[32:35] Well, I think so right now I'm going to feel a little confused about what our options have.

[32:44] It's our options just the committee and have them do the research or do we say the BCA

[32:51] is not, doesn't have the expertise to really approach this. But Peggy, you said that it happened

[32:58] differently in the days ago before we see it when it happened. So I think that back in this

[33:07] they came to us as a taxidfoil that we have to file our procedure. Okay, that's it.

[33:15] And what we do with what the committee recommends to the greater board, then that's what we decide which to be done.

[33:25] So, to be with me, that I think it would be tonight.

[33:28] I mean, give us some things here.

[33:30] We're not able for a tiny base base that aren't in it.

[33:34] We have no knowledge of anything you have to.

[33:37] But I think that that's really to this inspection.

[33:41] So if we did not,

[33:43] Then we automatically go to a committee.

[33:46] No, it sounds like a whole can't deny it.

[33:47] I can't deny it.

[33:48] We have to have a committee. That's the kind of,

[33:50] Okay, so that the Americans are only one option.

[33:53] Yes, so at this point it's a committee of minimum of three people.

[33:58] And then that committee will decide how they want to do this.

[34:03] You know, they can, I mean,

[34:04] I think if you just sort of imagining,

[34:08] if you involve a realtor,

[34:10] how they get to have to pay that realtor to make these assessments.

[34:19] It's not a matter of real or sale value.

[34:24] It's not a taxable value.

[34:25] It's a matter of how much do we appraise something in the blood zone and not the blood zone.

[34:31] We have, we already do that.

[34:36] We already appraised up at certain amounts.

[34:39] You know, a agricultural land at flood zone, and not at flood, and so that's the difference, that figure times number of acreage, essentially it's pretty simple, put it up.

[34:53] Thank you.

[34:54] I guess a lot of people are in the pool.

[34:58] They normally, again, do it in the pool while they normally come in and defend their number.

[35:03] See what I'm saying, they're coming in and all. It's not 10,000, but it's, you know, 7, 5, 5, 5,

[35:09] they are not keeping us anything back. So this is a little different because normally we get to choose.

[35:17] Okay, here's the list. Here's what they are, where you can pick a number. In this case, we cut these and throw a number.

[35:24] That's why I'm going to think that I'm going to make it ready. But it all shows you.

[35:28] I think they might think that the 1.5 is right.

[35:31] Or let or you may know it's all right. So I think we're at the point where we need to appoint a

[35:47] committee to pursue this and we need minimum of three. So I'm later just a

[36:01] So they have, I'm not sure if that's out of the question, to chat with the Minister of the

[36:07] Tannabins or BCA.

[36:10] It really varies.

[36:12] The thing is, like, rock again won't be because they're above the day.

[36:15] So they don't have the same environment as you get below the day in the town or more.

[36:22] So if you're on your favor, you're about to flee.

[36:24] So rock again as you know, they're above the day.

[36:27] Or what would they be complaining about?

[36:31] Well, that's so one thing that Johnson did want down was where the last time the damn burning was the damn that's

[36:40] I think the right potential.

[36:43] You said, well, just below the next one.

[36:46] And there's the scene where we're the least there with the least, like the picture that they want and grab you.

[36:54] But that is actually the correct one.

[36:59] The level of the main of the water passable to Burndown was not the same level as the water that flooded

[37:07] Alan Brothers.

[37:08] And it's because the actual flow of how much it's state out of the upper upper down created

[37:15] in a, the river was going very fast between Westminster and Vernon representing a lot of

[37:23] fall and so the flood level coming up to good else here.

[37:30] Was a lot higher, out to then the top of the front of the van, by who it did. So they're all given that they've burned in damn, discovering that the church.

[37:41] And as if it was because if you have a sale pool of water.

[37:44] Yeah, this was actually something really expert, like hydrologists.

[37:51] Just needed, even, if I understand how this is important, it's not just about who can excuse me.

[37:57] Yeah, right, whereas the hydro, the Great River, the hydro representative is here, really says, so I guess we can do it for him. After all this, I guess

[38:45] we can do it for him, after all this.

[38:49] Thank you.

[38:52] Hello.

[38:54] Hello.

[38:58] Okay, so we're going to welcome you to this meeting.

[39:02] Are you're here to represent Great River Hydra?

[39:05] Is that correct?

[39:06] That is correct.

[39:08] And are you Jocelyn?

[39:10] I am.

[39:13] Okay.

[39:14] Well, the Board of Civil Authorities here and the

[39:20] room for this hearing. So I would like to first of all, I need to have the applicant, which is you,

[39:37] take up the following oath. So under the pains and penalties of perjury, do you solemnly

[39:46] where the evidence you gave in the cause under consideration shall be the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

[39:54] Yes. Okay, thank you for that. And at this point, I also need to ask the board if there's any conflict of interest that exists

[40:06] or ex-partate communication that's taking place about this feeling.

[40:16] None.

[40:17] You're also okay. Did you receive a copy of the board's rules of procedure?

[40:25] Yes. And we have a question to about that. I do not. Okay. Okay. So I'm with a

[40:35] to ask you to identify the statutory abatement category that the abatement request is made under.

[40:45] So there is a visit check on one that abatement category is.

[40:59] Yes.

[40:59] You'll have contact with me.

[41:02] It's just a second.

[41:03] Remove them.

[41:03] Then I'll check that out.

[41:05] It's not pale, but then they will.

[41:08] It will be just.

[41:09] So this is, oh, I'm sorry.

[41:11] Packs will be a sign of something else.

[41:13] Please, there we can.

[41:14] This is my first time to manage this.

[41:17] Okay.

[41:17] So it's accessible.

[41:20] So.

[41:22] All right.

[41:22] I'm sorry.

[41:23] The next.

[41:26] After the.

[41:26] There were questions.

[41:27] And this flows in a conflict of interest.

[41:30] The next step you are is to ask the listeners to introduce the prophet in an appeal by describing the property in its present valuation, which we already.

[41:42] We actually spoke about that before you.

[41:47] I think it's a meeting but we're able to do that again.

[41:51] So, I'll come to this year with his, he's been down in the $10,000, this year, the State Department

[42:01] tax is providing towns with new utility assessments rather than us getting them from the

[42:10] So it's dreadful.

[42:12] We provided this money when we had this information for his father that I was in 10,000

[42:19] companies.

[42:21] And it was based on a 2013 raiseover at the state contract for the whole building that I

[42:29] system. And so the listeners have, I guess, the discussion took that number

[42:41] not exactly, but because it was beyond our knowledge to know what this has

[42:48] meant to be. In fact, the knowledge and the time is shown on top of the

[42:52] a razor after conversations with people and they felt in taxes, those just decided to

[43:00] move to the state's number, and you know, I don't know what's going on in the head with

[43:07] so that we would move to this step because it's a outside of our ability to judge another

[43:16] this is that. Thank you for that.

[43:23] And would

[43:28] can you, Jocelyn, please present the evaluation and your sporting evidence

[43:35] that according to your field?

[43:40] Yes. So, the letter that we provided for the appeal stated that we

[43:48] our opinion is that there's no change in value and our opinion is that because while we understand

[43:55] that the town or the board of listeners is being told by the state of Vermont to change the

[44:01] value in one single year for a value to change by over 15,000 per cent is un proportional and

[44:13] truly unfair to any taxpayer. Our property taxes went from $240 to $42,000. And I don't think

[44:29] any other taxpayer in the community would agree to be treated that way. I looked at the

[44:37] schedule that the listers provided. It's a land schedule for 2013 and in that land schedule,

[44:44] it shows at most a 35% increase in value from one year to the next. So 15,000

[44:52] person seems a little out of bounds and just to give a little background to the board as to what

[44:59] low-age youth.

[45:00] These flowed easements were acquired by our predecessor during the time when the Vernon dam was constructed in plans.

[45:10] Those flowed easements were to protect the company from being sued by other taxpayers.

[45:18] At this point in time, when these were acquired, there was the hydroelectric facility was not federally regulated.

[45:29] At this point in time, the dam and hydroelectric facility are federally regulated.

[45:35] Therefore, the Federal Power Act, which is a part of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission's rules and laws,

[45:46] They preempt any ability that a landowner could sue us because we are governed by a federal license.

[45:56] Therefore, any of the properties that have this slowage easement on them could not sue the facility,

[46:05] because we have the right in our FERC license to operate the facility of a certain elevation.

[46:10] And we comply with that, and anytime we were to not comply with that,

[46:17] FERC would find us, or they would tell us, you know, there would be some repercussions.

[46:24] Anytime the operating level does it exceed what we were allowed,

[46:30] it is typically during that time when there is a natural disaster or a flood,

[46:35] which is beyond our control.

[46:37] We don't control one mother nature, drops a couple feet of water, we just move the water as best we can.

[46:47] And so the report that the state is referencing is referencing about 1,046 acres of flowage easements.

[46:59] So these are, these are easements over somebody else's land.

[47:04] In most cases, those landowners are able to use the land as they see fit because we impact

[47:11] their land very minimally.

[47:15] It is typically within the 100-year flood zone, meaning that there is a 1% chance annually

[47:21] that they could flood.

[47:25] And the way that we are being valued is at $1500 per acre.

[47:31] What I looked at the Landschedule, it caps out at 48 acres or $1,600 an acre, so that means whatever the land is being taxed, it's almost double dipping because we're being taxed $1,500 an acre, the other taxpayers being taxed $1,600 an acre, so we are paying almost as much as somebody that actually owns the land.

[48:00] We don't own any land.

[48:02] We just have the right to flow water on the land if we must.

[48:09] And so, go ahead.

[48:12] Question for it.

[48:13] Would you also wait a minute.

[48:14] We're going to have questions when you just

[48:15] two people.

[48:16] OK, you're going to have to answer.

[48:18] OK.

[48:19] I almost done.

[48:21] But in all, it is our opinion that because of this preemption

[48:26] and because of the fact that we are federally licensed, there shouldn't be any change in value.

[48:35] Though the state is dictating it,

[48:39] we don't want to fight with the town about this.

[48:42] We would like to reach a reasonable resolution where we are paying our fair share of property

[48:48] taxes but not out of 15,000% increase. And so we would like to find a middle ground between

[48:59] what the town has and what we have to reach a reasonable resolution, what we can still pay

[49:06] our proportionate amount of property taxes and Westminster. We enjoyed being a part of the community.

[49:12] I was talking to the listeners about just introducing myself.

[49:18] Many of our employees live and go to Westminster daily.

[49:24] We don't want to have any conflicts, but we also can't walk away from a $15,000 increase.

[49:31] It's just unfair.

[49:34] And so, that's the end of it.

[49:39] Thanks. Thank you for that.

[49:40] So I have the next step here to ask the listeners to respond to the information presented by the

[50:08] use the number that the state provides, because we have no basis for it, but we have no

[50:16] need to remember it. And I'm happy that a great reminder of the months to talk to you,

[50:23] especially with us, which have a simple conversation about something I read. But at this point,

[50:29] the listers don't have any basis for, in a sense, except in a night, except in either of the 10,000

[50:38] that if we're meaning plus we just don't have the average of the Jews and I have so now that

[50:46] questions from them we see a state of danger on the sweatboard. I would like to know for how many years

[50:53] prior to 2013 what prior to now the flowage easing was valued at $10,000. When was the $10,000

[51:02] value established. And what was the value when the Vernon Dam was installed in the early

[51:09] 19th century?

[51:13] I can get the number just one second for how long it's been 10,000 dollars.

[51:20] As for what the value was when Vernon Dam was constructed,

[51:27] I don't have that. I can tell you that

[51:30] And these flowage easements were acquired.

[51:36] There was no monetary value exchange

[51:39] between the company and the landowner.

[51:45] It was a, no, sorry.

[51:48] What I am referencing here is you're worried

[51:53] about a rapid increase in value, what I am suspecting

[52:00] is that change in value represents nearly as centuries

[52:05] worth the change in land value.

[52:07] Unless you can demonstrate otherwise,

[52:12] it's quite possible that it sat at $10,000

[52:16] for a very long time.

[52:22] So I showed it's been $10,000 since 2015.

[52:25] Prior to that, it was 11,500 within.

[52:30] The realm of the 10,000, going back.

[52:37] But the way to value an easement peripraisals is what is the land worth

[52:45] without the easement, so valuing the actual landowners property and then valuing what a

[52:56] willing buyer would pay for that property with the easement on it. And the difference between

[53:03] what the willing buyer would pay with the easement subtracted by the value of the property

[53:10] without the easement is the value of the easement. And from what I've experienced and

[53:18] It looks at a lot of the land along the kind of care river is farmland.

[53:25] It is the best farmland in New England and whoever is buying those properties to use it

[53:32] from farmland doesn't care that there is an easement on it.

[53:36] They're using it for the production of their farm.

[53:42] And so the impacts of the easement is nil because they're still willing to use that land and pay what it costs for that land to be able to farm it because it's fantastic land.

[53:59] It may be fantastic land, but it's flooded, it damages the crops, does the flooding

[54:06] easements result in some flooded?

[54:12] Not under our operations.

[54:15] If there is flooding, it is typically because of a natural disaster.

[54:25] What our dams do when we have high water, they're ultimately invisible.

[54:30] We just pass water through them. We are actually, you know, helping communities with less flooding because we're moving the water out of the way.

[54:43] We are not creating the flooding or else it would be flooded every single day from our operations. Our FERC license does not allow that.

[54:54] That would not seem to be the implication of something called flooding easements.

[54:58] It's a flow of achievement.

[55:00] It's the right to flow if necessary.

[55:03] It is not the right to flood indefinitely.

[55:09] I have a question from Craig.

[55:12] I've been laid on over there.

[55:15] I was strongly disagree with everything you said.

[55:17] What is it's a trivial adjust to farm land, but when only you can only use a farm land

[55:24] So how do I know the West News you're more about the fact that's this tank and I get our facts

[55:29] It's because it can never be and can't put homes. We can't do anything

[55:33] That's all we've done over your day and over your butt

[55:35] Set the part if you said it's not our fault. Yes, it is because I pulled the boards up

[55:40] He's flooded every year because you don't have not seen it

[55:43] and it's all coming from Goals. Oh, Ben doing this. Ben they're all on my life.

[55:48] Watch your place get flooded all the time. Okay. So, yes, it lowers the value of that

[55:53] all of that matter because everybody knows it's floods. And meanwhile, all that land is not paying

[55:59] in the tax, and it should have to the town where it was ministered because everybody looks at

[56:04] home and don't want this because it floods. Everyone's in the wild. My big argument is the

[56:10] And from what the new people are really smart people, the standard market was smart enough to come up with a formula that come back and said if you're a mathematical formula, the set of the board 1.5 million, I came to the same one people have come back and said no, they're formula is wrong.

[56:27] because they didn't print 1.5 billion out of the air and they say here it is. They came up with

[56:33] a system that said, this is how we get you. And first thing we were going to this committee

[56:38] should go and ask the state to do is how did you get there? Because they came up with a number,

[56:43] do people have to come up with any number and I don't blame you because you've been all these years,

[56:47] but I'll get what I'm painting their fair share. But they come back and say it's 10,000, even though

[56:53] Long reason was 10, because the listeners didn't know what to do with it, and just lowered it even from the 11,000.

[57:00] But I can't believe that you guys can't calculate a formula of that for the same form of the state,

[57:04] because in just the pre-plos and numbers, I'm with you on that. But to come here and pick a number out of the sky,

[57:11] says a bunch of ways to

[57:16] find it. Is the farm land in a floodplain?

[57:20] It is within the 100 year floodplain.

[57:25] It is supposed to be, it's in an area that is okay to flood.

[57:32] It is that way up and down the river.

[57:36] People don't build houses in floodplains because it may flood.

[57:41] It had a 1 to 10% chance of flooding depending on where you are.

[57:48] If the farmland was not flooded, would it be as great as, would the soil be as great as it is?

[57:56] No, because that's how soil becomes richer.

[58:03] This is pretty much it ain't it's.

[58:05] wa ho sandfish is 100.

[58:09] But right now on that farmland lives.

[58:12] Our farmer's with square was 100.

[58:15] 150 thousand dollars to loft are peleans.

[58:21] Yeah,

[58:21] swiss it bundles.

[58:23] People going to buy a second.

[58:25] Yeah.

[58:26] Sometime, we can't because of the water from the river.

[58:29] Sometimes contaminates the farmland and you can't use it or you can use it, but there are

[58:36] on the disease happening in there. So that lowers the value of the problem.

[58:43] So yeah, we don't look forward to the farmland main wasn't really good enough.

[58:48] Not a good idea of

[58:52] them. Maybe historically that's how that was rich.

[58:57] Yeah, but it's a different line now.

[59:04] So I was being contaminated and taken away.

[59:08] Basically, I talked so many things for them.

[59:11] So there was another thing.

[59:14] Okay, I started picking.

[59:16] So Chastana, I just been clarity.

[59:19] In West Beach, there's 28 acres to sell that I've been missing.

[59:23] No, the 48 acres was what was capped in the land schedule.

[59:28] So it only lists to a maximum of 48 acres when it's estimating the value.

[59:35] So that was the highest number that I could use for comparison.

[59:40] And your company does not have a figure for the value of this.

[59:46] You're not putting forth a figure for us to consider.

[59:52] We propose that it seems the same as that.

[59:55] Pardon me?

[59:56] We proposed that it seems the same.

[59:58] It seems the same.

[1:00:18] I think we've heard all the testimony that we need. I mean, questions answered.

[1:00:29] Sure, no more questions. Okay, so.

[1:00:34] At this point, I think we're all set with you and very much appreciate your coming by Zoom to the meeting and we're going to.

[1:00:45] I would be interested when the inspection is going to be as I would like to partake.

[1:00:52] Okay, we'll let you know that's, you know, that's part of our job there is to.

[1:00:57] I'll be found there in the session with what's up, please.

[1:01:03] Okay.

[1:01:04] Okay.

[1:01:05] Thanks.

[1:01:05] The more we will note if you buy you by email.

[1:01:09] Is that out of there?

[1:01:11] Yes.

[1:01:12] Thank you.

[1:01:13] Thank you.

[1:01:14] Thank you.

[1:01:15] Thank you.

[1:01:22] Okay.

[1:01:23] Do we need a motion?

[1:01:25] Well, we need a motion to avoid the inspection duty at this point.

[1:01:31] Did you want to make a motion another?

[1:01:34] I don't know whether we need a motion to deny a appeal and then about a point inspection committee or whether the first step was to point.

[1:01:43] The first step is to point the individual inspection community.

[1:01:52] Okay.

[1:01:53] So I would like to.

[1:01:59] is your second to mass motion?

[1:02:01] Yes, I'm out a second name.

[1:02:03] Who?

[1:02:04] Matters.

[1:02:05] I'll leave.

[1:02:06] Oh, master.

[1:02:07] Thank you.

[1:02:11] Okay.

[1:02:12] Thank you.

[1:02:14] So you're looking forward to it.

[1:02:16] I'm looking.

[1:02:17] I'm looking forward to it.

[1:02:19] You're being on the cliff.

[1:02:21] Okay.

[1:02:22] Thanks, Matt.

[1:02:28] I guess so.

[1:02:30] Thank you.

[1:02:32] Okay.

[1:02:32] Somebody to listen to that.

[1:02:35] All you said was the thing that I'm going to ask.

[1:02:37] I can jump on this.

[1:02:39] So that's very fair.

[1:02:41] Thank you.

[1:02:42] I'm going to take a few words.

[1:02:44] Oh, I recommend.

[1:02:45] Yes, that's the committee's try to get original documentation, and we're going to

[1:02:51] maybe take some.

[1:02:52] You see the time.

[1:02:54] What, whatever the model is.

[1:02:56] I said that we used that.

[1:02:58] That play for the state of the play.

[1:03:00] for the result of this joint jump, okay, and then that they get to be 2016 more for four

[1:03:10] cases that established a different mechanism for calculating the field of the field of the

[1:03:18] chip. Waterbird mechanism, as well as the 2013 Stabilmont mechanism for establishing the

[1:03:28] be, but what he's advised was, because they're saying, whatever, however, they did it into

[1:03:36] any 13, and if that has been, I don't know, maybe irrelevant or more.

[1:03:45] By the law, I don't know.

[1:03:46] Phil, don't you know, I can be proper way to find this court case that was, I don't know,

[1:03:52] 26, and that was 26, and I don't know.

[1:03:53] And do they, is there any logical, yearly inflation in that land value to the interest of this song?

[1:04:03] Well, so what do we do?

[1:04:04] I mean, everyone knows this in the way that nasal works in the mind is we have a time where we raise it up.

[1:04:23] perhaps this fall was not held by law, this fall was not held by law, this fall was held by

[1:04:27] Zee. And then that states that the same thing, their scheduled sports is a, you know,

[1:04:33] the quality of the roof thing, the deck and everything. Those mortifiers stay the same

[1:04:40] until the next time like you're present. So here, if you don't have any house today, we're

[1:04:47] We saw that there was a brand new place.

[1:04:50] It's building right now at the 2013 nonprofit value

[1:04:54] for one of the second minutes in the next.

[1:04:57] The debt in the house of that night.

[1:04:59] So that well there's the inflation in the market.

[1:05:04] It doesn't, it doesn't.

[1:05:05] So what?

[1:05:05] That kind of thing in the, in the assessment.

[1:05:08] The phase of the current submission.

[1:05:11] But actually, the 20th or 19th number will be the 20th or 19th.

[1:05:15] That's one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we went over to the 28th one. Yeah.

[1:05:20] Yeah. That's cute. It's just way outside or moment we have quite close step. Thank you.

[1:05:24] Thanks Rebecca. Well, I think it was coincidence that we did have it as on 2013 and this

[1:05:33] no longer thanks on the stage or in 2013. But it's going to be positive. It's positive.

[1:05:45] Okay.

[1:05:45] We need that. We can hopefully kind of answer. We can help us get that information from the state.

[1:05:53] And I don't know how we can get the water for it.

[1:05:56] Well, I assume it's a matter of public records.

[1:06:00] Yeah.

[1:06:00] It's a good place.

[1:06:01] is it okay if so?

[1:06:04] Should we?

[1:06:05] We, we, we belong to the cities and towns offers a lot of help.

[1:06:10] There's now this and there.

[1:06:12] We should also be able to jump to the civil-born and medium vehicle of those.

[1:06:18] I remember.

[1:06:19] And then we'll, parents will have to.

[1:06:21] They have been, they have been, they have been.

[1:06:23] They have been.

[1:06:24] Sometimes so we have our committee unless somebody else would like to join the committee as well.

[1:06:31] It was already the same.

[1:06:34] Well, we need one more.

[1:06:35] It is a very long series.

[1:06:38] Yeah, I didn't mean nice to have somebody else.

[1:06:40] You know, it's just.

[1:06:43] Okay.

[1:06:46] Okay, so we got to come.

[1:06:48] So we're going to.

[1:06:51] Well, what we're supposed to do in this situation was

[1:06:55] to inspect the property and set a date and a time set by the chair to

[1:06:59] that's the property and reported selling these back to the busier.

[1:07:03] But we're not really going to do that because we're not going to go out and inspect property.

[1:07:07] We're going to do our digging to research.

[1:07:10] Well, we could do my time for getting the information from the state.

[1:07:20] We could be doing our map research as here, it's not.

[1:07:28] I don't think it's going to be too neat but done.

[1:07:37] We need to set up date to recess, not more than 30 days from now, to bring our information back to the board.

[1:07:50] So, yes, and she also asked that she would like to be a part of that inspection.

[1:07:55] Yes, she wants to know the data inspection.

[1:07:57] Yeah, yeah, so I think that you've got to, okay, something.

[1:08:00] So we have to have something available to learn.

[1:08:04] All right.

[1:08:04] What's sort of time for?

[1:08:06] 30 days, within 30 days from to get more fast to do.

[1:08:11] Well.

[1:08:12] So how do we get her if we're just doing research and we're not actually,

[1:08:16] Well, we were in my research to get information from the state, and then we had our own

[1:08:24] flood control maps in our town.

[1:08:28] And she already has the acreage.

[1:08:32] It was a thousand forty one or something she mentioned.

[1:08:35] The flowage, the acreage covered by the flowage is what the thousands of of.

[1:08:42] And, which, which makes me suspect is about 10,000.

[1:08:45] That's in 1921, it's up to you.

[1:08:49] And so we, we want to be prepared by don't think we need to find much more than what you

[1:09:03] do.

[1:09:03] Why is he suggested that we know how.

[1:09:07] And the state is absolute.

[1:09:08] But they're in a bad, they're in a lot of your tests that's full of wrinkle and that's not sure that we can go out and find a vision.

[1:09:18] Like when we both, like others, we're not always supposed to get with the list of your tell us,

[1:09:26] and we have what the panel tells us, we're not supposed to go out and find the throttle.

[1:09:30] Yeah, you know, we're right on that.

[1:09:32] Yeah, I think that you're, but that's a kind of like, you know, hard place here because we can't really, we're always supposed to take the testimony, hopefully, right, and that's supposed to go fine.

[1:09:44] Right. Okay.

[1:09:44] So I don't know if that's something that we could do on anything.

[1:09:48] Well, we have the testimony of the acreage as she did saw us here. That's a lot of it.

[1:09:52] Okay.

[1:09:54] And we don't know if you can call the state and say any information.

[1:09:58] I don't know.

[1:09:59] Yeah.

[1:09:59] We'll be able to say about how to use the testimony in this room.

[1:10:04] Not, you know, call up somebody and say,

[1:10:07] Can you give us more information?

[1:10:09] They're not.

[1:10:10] They have a hundred year map.

[1:10:12] That what we always knew.

[1:10:14] However, that's a lot of.

[1:10:17] Should Google more research.

[1:10:18] We can't.

[1:10:19] over the 28th and over the 100th year, so then we had came back and it does affect it because

[1:10:27] all my companies had to change our insurance because the window of 500 has all the lower claims.

[1:10:33] Now the flood is when they said they wouldn't, because it was north and they said, oh,

[1:10:38] so we said, what's going to be wearing shirt? So that all that changed into a formula of

[1:10:43] a P-bound doing when they're waiting. But all the time, we're going to go in my onion here in the

[1:10:46] on you because of a comfortable and a little shirt.

[1:10:51] Okay, with an Adrian and I would like to suggest that because this is an assessment

[1:11:00] that's based on information of, it's not based on walking particular structures.

[1:11:08] It's that that is part of the inspection that this committee needs to undertake.

[1:11:16] The committee needs to inspect the formulas, the maps, the easements, et cetera, et cetera.

[1:11:24] I would also suggest that in accumulating this information, you can sort of parcel out who's going to pursue what.

[1:11:35] and then you get together and talk about what you've learned and then, you know, that might be the day at which you invite Jocelyn in or you may have this information you can organize it and then you invite Jocelyn in and say,

[1:12:03] I'm going to make a suggestion before we go on with those that we recessed this, that we don't set a date and a time yet, and someone in on this board contact their

[1:12:17] a lot of the cities and towns and ask them, what is the legal way to proceed with this?

[1:12:22] Because we've never done this under then. We've dealt with property with, you know,

[1:12:28] cops and the property owners says this and we go out and we look at it. It's been really

[1:12:34] pretty cutting for I other than the solar event, the solar field. I don't know how that ever turned out.

[1:12:40] But I think we need to get some advice on this.

[1:12:46] I would believe that if we asked for advice or asked for the formula and kept it

[1:13:00] is we're until the inspection thing and they, you it as part of the inspection as we do too

[1:13:11] that that would fulfill their need to know. Who's things?

[1:13:19] The very required rate. I'm just saying that, yeah, I don't think that it's under that you are

[1:13:26] understanding that we're as if as the BCA receives information testimony that we're only permitted to use what we've got here.

[1:13:37] We can't call, we can't look at maps, we can't really do that to extend our input of our information.

[1:13:48] Like, if somebody came to us, for instance, and they said their tax rate was too high,

[1:13:54] we couldn't look at comps in the area. Outside of this, I can only look at what the

[1:14:00] listers provide and what the appellant provides us. And then we go out and give the inspection.

[1:14:10] But on this point, it has, does I have a lot of Spain with it?

[1:14:13] Isn't the inspection itself, is it an information gathering?

[1:14:17] Yes, you're not just going and standing somewhere and

[1:14:20] constituting about where evidence and error, and then

[1:14:23] so you're actually looking for some structure, or some place, and

[1:14:28] a sad thing about the logic, you know, so the fact in this case,

[1:14:33] if there is no physical structure to look at,

[1:14:36] the thing that you have to look at is a chart or a...

[1:14:41] Well, I strongly disagree. I'll go one out, take down those, okay?

[1:14:47] They have to take their way that one zone and take them to tell you, they will get a well over million dollars more.

[1:14:54] They will profit them to the other one.

[1:14:57] I understand that. I'm not.

[1:14:59] So, you're right.

[1:15:00] Yeah, that's fine, but there's structure, there is, there's whatever is in that matter, whatever they're about.

[1:15:08] Well, like I said, I would really like to ask, evermind me, the citizen's time to see before me proceed.

[1:15:16] So, I, yes, means my key to interrupt, but we have to be around here. Okay, so I'm going to recess this.

[1:15:23] And would ask somebody to have on for research.

[1:15:31] No, not not research.

[1:15:32] Contact the Vermont.

[1:15:34] That's in cancer.

[1:15:35] Okay.

[1:15:36] Well, it's advice.

[1:15:38] It's new to leave us.

[1:15:40] All right.

[1:15:40] So, Jeanette, we'll do that.

[1:15:42] How do we, how do we,

[1:15:43] I'm a little bit worried about 30 to 30 days,

[1:15:46] or, you know,

[1:15:48] put off.

[1:15:50] How do we get the job done?

[1:15:52] Well,

[1:15:52] we got a part of the advice and then we I get we will reconvene somehow I guess maybe we could do that by zoom

[1:16:04] I don't know this is new stuff for me and I think everybody on this and just on the

[1:16:12] a civil authority needs to read the parameters for taps, assesses, and I want anybody to have

[1:16:24] a comment about that.

[1:16:30] Okay.

[1:16:33] So I say within the next. So I say within, well, Janet, when do you

[1:16:39] I think you can run this information of how many of them on me,

[1:16:43] but it doesn't matter how trying, pardon me.

[1:16:46] I'll transfer to my own side, right?

[1:16:47] Okay.

[1:16:48] Oh, so.

[1:16:49] Sorry.

[1:16:50] It hasn't been said she's not just anybody here at all.

[1:16:54] You know, it's been married to one of the contract will look the other day.

[1:16:58] She's on board a civil authority.

[1:17:00] She's one of you in the minutes that she could not wear is the file.

[1:17:03] Yeah.

[1:17:04] Millie is taking minutes right now.

[1:17:07] So we're saying, so that has volunteered.

[1:17:09] Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know what you want me to do. Just recess to net will.

[1:17:15] Janette is appointed to and you get this down to to pursue with Vermont Legal

[1:17:20] Citizens and Towns and we will recess this meeting in two weeks.

[1:17:27] Oh, I was very well.

[1:17:29] For one week one week one week. How does that work?

[1:17:34] When we talk right up, guys, we're going to.

[1:17:37] OK.

[1:17:39] So I am following this heading to be recessed until one week from today,

[1:17:49] which is anybody ever calendar?

[1:17:51] This part of it's being recessed.

[1:17:53] You still haven't.

[1:17:54] Right, OK.

[1:17:54] The BCI has parties, right?

[1:17:56] Yes, that's right.

[1:17:56] We're closing.

[1:17:57] We're recessing this, and now we're going to open

[1:18:00] the board of a basement.

[1:18:02] Yes, really.

[1:18:06] And we were going to touch about how to do that.

[1:18:12] We're going to set up the meeting and have it available by some of

[1:18:19] Okay, yes, yes, thank you.

[1:18:21] Yeah, no, no.

[1:18:26] Okay, so now they're going to do that.

[1:18:31] I think.

[1:18:37] You know, yes, I mentioned.

[1:19:00] I don't have an accent. I don't have an accent. I don't have an accent.

[1:19:09] So I believe we also have to be working as that we've had many, many.

[1:19:14] I didn't realize how we can lead.

[1:19:17] So that's the idea.

[1:19:19] Where all the abandoning community is a majority of MBCA, the minimum of 12 people, or so what do we have?

[1:19:30] Who's on the BCA?

[1:19:31] I think everyone here is on the BCA.

[1:19:34] Okay, so

[1:19:37] yeah, we're here.

[1:19:39] Good. Are you, you're not in the case of there.

[1:19:43] There, there.

[1:19:44] The, I don't know, there.

[1:19:46] I'm not saying one guesses.

[1:19:48] 7, you, you, you have been 12.

[1:19:50] 13. We're good. Okay.

[1:19:54] All right.

[1:19:55] So let me go,

[1:19:57] She,

[1:19:58] She,

[1:20:15] Okay,

[1:20:16] I hear by,

[1:20:17] being a,

[1:20:18] the,

[1:20:19] the,

[1:20:19] building of tax evading this hearing and, um,

[1:20:28] just as a human.

[1:20:32] So I'm opening the hearing

[1:20:33] and the applicant is Rebecca Saunders and

[1:20:44] the property location is, um, 113 con road in Westminster

[1:20:53] with a footnote beyond the rest. And the parcel ID is 0.1, 0.1, 0.3, 0.0, 0. And

[1:21:11] so Rebecca Saunders is here and I'm not

[1:21:21] So I would like, and if the African and any witnesses are you will witness this to this case.

[1:21:29] Yes, you are.

[1:21:32] Okay, so I'd like the applicant and witness to take the following oath.

[1:21:36] Under the pains and penalties of virtually, do you solemnly swear that the evidence you give and cause under consideration shall be the hope for nothing but the truth?

[1:21:49] And does anybody on the Board of Civil Authority have any conflict of interest in this case?

[1:21:58] Well, great.

[1:22:00] So Rebecca, have you received a copy of the Board's rules and procedures?

[1:22:06] And do you have any questions about how to proceed with the meeting?

[1:22:10] Okay,

[1:22:19] I'll set you understand how we're going to help our candidates.

[1:22:22] And can you identify which of the statutory categories you are?

[1:22:34] That would be, that's on the first page of your application.

[1:22:41] Oh, I don't have the application, was it open?

[1:22:43] Oh, thank you.

[1:22:46] So, yes, the taxes and charges were first and so unable to pay a charge and interest to the employees.

[1:22:55] Okay, I'll understand that.

[1:22:58] Did everybody hear that?

[1:22:59] I don't have it.

[1:23:02] All right.

[1:23:04] So, Rebecca, we would like you to present your evidence and anything without

[1:23:14] left to author that year, please.

[1:23:16] Oh, instead of a vote of your decision.

[1:23:18] If you have anything other to author, well,

[1:23:27] One thing that did occurred to me today was that if I had a payment plan without penalties

[1:23:34] and interests would help.

[1:23:41] But what I was saying, and I was just saying, the gist of it all is that because of a

[1:23:50] lot of contract of fraud, scams, I got into big financial trouble seven years ago, and

[1:23:56] quite managed to get out of it. Maybe the answer to the side of it. And then my one of my

[1:24:02] taxes double, I was a bit kind of harder because I had paid my last taxes. And I think the next

[1:24:11] year I'll be able to pay if things don't, you know, things don't stay steady. But this year is really

[1:24:19] stuff because I don't have a home stator credit for this year.

[1:24:26] I had $200, not so credit because our home-style stator thing got listed wrongly many years

[1:24:33] ago.

[1:24:33] It got subsequently fixed when I was never getting proper home stator credit for my house,

[1:24:40] which has a valuation of $247,000, which I've managed to...

[1:24:49] make up for the contractor for I'm by getting longs and all that and I think that my

[1:24:57] homestay credit wouldn't have been pretty nice. This year is pretty good for next year but it's

[1:25:02] not for this year. You know how the year is behind the year. So this year is the tough one.

[1:25:09] I'm caught up with everything except this year and I'm going to have to take out a long

[1:25:16] because I get a nice little lower interest than I would be paid on a payment plan.

[1:25:25] And so that's what I'm asking for a redemption for this year.

[1:25:29] And then, because if I had the proper homestead credit, I would probably be okay.

[1:25:34] But it ever did because of the various mistakes that I think I explained.

[1:25:39] I kind of explained them mistakes, even if I'm very lost to hear them.

[1:25:43] I think you should go ahead and do that because I've got a great number of the people who were not here on your previous year.

[1:25:52] Yeah, so probably started with a contractor fraud. Can everybody hear?

[1:25:56] Yeah, I think we're back then.

[1:25:57] My character fraud scams really disasters and for which there's no help.

[1:26:02] There's really never anybody asking for help everybody from the government on that.

[1:26:08] And there's really nothing you can do about that, because even if you take a contractor to

[1:26:14] report, they don't have to pay anything and they all know that.

[1:26:16] We all know that, you know, it's just in the states and those things too.

[1:26:20] So that's what got me into big trouble.

[1:26:24] And meanwhile, what happened was I had a trailer that was on my property that I had a trailer

[1:26:29] and then I sort of outbuilding the Rajee kind of thing.

[1:26:32] The trailer got removed and we had to proper things for Charlie Lowell got the permit and he

[1:26:40] helped me with all of that but it wasn't listed properly and so it was listed I was paying

[1:26:46] taxes for trailer for many years but then when the trailer was removed in 2000 to 20 that was really

[1:26:56] paying taxes on the building was not there as mine also has been constructed because I had

[1:27:01] to finally, we finally got some kind of decent contractors that took a long time and the house was finally finished in 2004 last year.

[1:27:15] So, okay, so then the home sort of credit was not accurate and the house list thing was not accurate.

[1:27:20] But we got that fixed on two problems.

[1:27:22] The list thing was at 50% of the Homestead Valley,

[1:27:26] it was at 100%.

[1:27:27] Because of the mistake, I don't know, as I might have made it,

[1:27:31] somehow I called a building a studio,

[1:27:34] and it seemed like it was a art studio, which it was.

[1:27:38] And they just, one of those, some things you do,

[1:27:41] you name something, and then it bites you later.

[1:27:44] So once I got the 100% listing, things got better,

[1:27:48] But since the home value is very low, even though my home by that point was getting a little bit more valuable, I wasn't getting the right credit.

[1:28:00] Does that make sense?

[1:28:01] It's so complicated.

[1:28:04] I didn't know.

[1:28:06] So, and then, of course, everybody got the tax increase.

[1:28:09] I got a double.

[1:28:10] I got from 3,000 something to 6,000.

[1:28:13] and I had shells that arranged to pay the $3,000 kind of got it paid and then I get here was $6,000 and I just didn't have it.

[1:28:22] I have an official information on the security, the property of this place.

[1:28:27] Yeah, the proper checks was double. I'll tell you what.

[1:28:33] Yeah, let's speak down there.

[1:28:34] And the last two years, the property taxes double from 3,000 to 6,000 to 5,000 to 5,000.

[1:28:46] So you're like that. On top of this, it was a result of the educational increase as well, percentage.

[1:28:53] But we've got a good double fit of this year. There's no doubt from the state, because we had only 200 dollars of credit.

[1:29:02] And you have now $6,000 for credit.

[1:29:07] So the next year, the home estate credit is pretty good.

[1:29:10] And that's manageable.

[1:29:12] But for this year, it's not.

[1:29:13] If the years in the past, it hasn't really been more than $1,000.

[1:29:16] I think it was $130 on years, $200.

[1:29:19] So the dollar was a mistake, and it all got fit.

[1:29:22] I don't understand why the education state tax payment was so long.

[1:29:30] That's that double mistake, that's why it's so confusing.

[1:29:34] Well, yeah, but that it's something that I'm going to stake you, maybe, because that's calculated from your income to apps.

[1:29:43] It was a mistake. It was a mistake.

[1:29:46] It was listed incorrectly.

[1:29:48] That is based on your income,

[1:29:52] but look at education tax credit is calculated by the state.

[1:30:00] The court may stand here in common and have nothing to do with your solicitors.

[1:30:09] So, was in common with property value? Let's see the property value is very, very low, because the solicitor was a trailer.

[1:30:17] And then when the property went up, this got fit.

[1:30:21] It has too much tests, and I would give you a wrinkled box, now we'll give you, so that what they've told me is this a combination of the two that is your income and the value of your property, and they told me that the more valuable your property is, the bigger your credit is.

[1:30:38] You know, the person that excuse me, Rachel has something to do with this.

[1:30:42] Yes, Rachel.

[1:30:43] The number of property went up.

[1:30:47] It was the new building.

[1:30:50] Right.

[1:30:51] So, yes, your education.

[1:30:53] I said, right.

[1:30:54] It would have been similar.

[1:30:55] Yeah, sure.

[1:30:56] Yes.

[1:30:56] I want to talk about it.

[1:30:58] But your value in higher.

[1:31:00] So, the taxes, I don't know.

[1:31:01] What do we higher?

[1:31:02] So, okay.

[1:31:03] The amount of that.

[1:31:04] I try to understand.

[1:31:05] to acknowledge, and I said, there's a lot of children in the United States in the United States.

[1:31:10] Really what happens is in the picture that we knew that of the trailer.

[1:31:15] And that, we already know, Mr. Saucer's office, the fact that we have to see the trailer,

[1:31:21] that they've been tolerated, but I'm assessing the value of that knowledge in the United States.

[1:31:26] That's why the United States is for none.

[1:31:28] Well, but the thing is, we did, I didn't get any homestead credit for that,

[1:31:32] but look at the difference between that.

[1:31:33] I just want my point, I don't understand why you don't know.

[1:31:38] Nobody seems to know because look at it from it's here. That's pretty nice.

[1:31:43] Well, that's certainly more like it.

[1:31:47] It's 2,200 and something but it's applied for next year.

[1:31:51] So that's my great product.

[1:31:53] But that's a document that we've found.

[1:31:55] Yeah.

[1:31:57] It doesn't.

[1:31:58] I keep sending them back to the channel.

[1:32:01] I don't know what to do.

[1:32:01] We call the tax people, when everyone, like, say,

[1:32:06] boy, it's down, and then we go to town,

[1:32:09] it says, oh, it's safe, you know, you cannot.

[1:32:12] Can we?

[1:32:12] I just, the bill, six thousand something for this year.

[1:32:16] I mean, it's a huge amount of money.

[1:32:18] It's totally double.

[1:32:20] You're going to have any help on this day.

[1:32:22] That's why we appeal to consider, to reduce the power,

[1:32:26] because we don't have money to pay.

[1:32:28] We deal with, you know, the fraud,

[1:32:30] and knowing how we conducted the business to everyone,

[1:32:35] to start to the town, to the governor, to the police, to everyone,

[1:32:40] zero response, zero.

[1:32:43] Because my question is, why is it this, with the same property,

[1:32:47] the same evaluation, this coming year, I get 2,000 to 100 off the last year,

[1:32:52] I got 233 off. That's that's my question.

[1:32:56] that's how we're doing. And as I say, I understand it's based on when you file your

[1:33:05] income tax and I'm declaring your home state, you include your property during

[1:33:12] I'm going to ask you how then send the figure to the channel.

[1:33:15] My answer was, I'm going to add to all the deficits.

[1:33:19] I agree with you.

[1:33:20] I agree with you.

[1:33:22] I'm a Pacifica.

[1:33:26] Emily, Emily, I'm sorry.

[1:33:30] I've heard of it.

[1:33:31] I think of it as a Pacifica.

[1:33:34] It has done for a couple of years.

[1:33:38] I had mine done by a Pacifica.

[1:33:41] And they were not going to file a home set declaration.

[1:33:50] Why so?

[1:33:51] Because other income.

[1:33:53] No, no.

[1:33:55] And I said, you have to file.

[1:33:57] Send declaration.

[1:33:59] They didn't understand.

[1:34:02] Because the more you're having to promote the more your house is worth a bigger.

[1:34:06] You get a home set.

[1:34:08] As we know, they told me it's going to be day-time, you're able to see it, don't you?

[1:34:12] It's not really, it's all because it was based on the amount of time you've been going to notice.

[1:34:17] Because I kept telling you your face, didn't you?

[1:34:20] Uh, unfortunately, it's not, you know, it's not.

[1:34:24] You know, self-co...

[1:34:26] Yeah, what?

[1:34:28] If you've had the credits for this past year, that from the state,

[1:34:32] you know, the second one we've got in front of the only five percent.

[1:34:37] from 3,000 to 6,000, 7,000, you know, we went there and said, you know, because we got

[1:34:43] health crisis, we received a bill, we were as strong as it was.

[1:34:49] As I drove just, yes, you can, can't you, we filed taxes for previous year, if you feel like there was some

[1:34:57] And so, what, what, what did you realize then, okay?

[1:35:01] Yes, so, oh, look, you know what I'm saying in the third time.

[1:35:03] And like, it is, I sent her all the last, um, text bills, all the,

[1:35:09] everything from 9, from 2021.

[1:35:11] This is about, I guess, of 2021, 22 year, maybe it was the year that the,

[1:35:17] the property was removed, the change, all that.

[1:35:20] Um, and she's looking at it, but I haven't heard anything.

[1:35:23] But, because at what, when I call the state,

[1:35:26] the value of the house they said really was a factor. My low income is a factor too. I mean,

[1:35:33] I can't prove my house incredibly and get more money because I have buy income as fit. So it

[1:35:39] has to do with income and the other one too. And the more the house is worth supposedly,

[1:35:45] the more you get back. No, I'm sorry. So the state told me. Well, I'm sorry. They told you that

[1:35:52] But it's not accurate.

[1:35:54] Yeah, what to do?

[1:35:56] Don't know what to do.

[1:35:57] It is, it sounds like it would be blocked.

[1:36:00] It's to be filed in your state of taxes,

[1:36:02] with a direct homestead declaration for the fire of year.

[1:36:09] Both of this, we have said that we could talk to you with that.

[1:36:12] That might help you and logically,

[1:36:18] we'd give you the same reddit for this year,

[1:36:24] hopefully that process would work.

[1:36:27] You think I should find it's like that OTC or whatever that is.

[1:36:30] We can also use it to live and have better results back.

[1:36:34] Because they gave the credit from the last year for the past year.

[1:36:40] The first year was based on the low like on the trailer on the lower value property.

[1:36:46] So, this year, you know, this was based on the previous.

[1:36:52] So, that's the instruction in between two, you know.

[1:36:56] It doesn't, it doesn't give up.

[1:36:58] It doesn't give up. It doesn't help. It doesn't help.

[1:37:00] Well, that this is because two years we used to go.

[1:37:03] But the year or four, you know, I want to use the turbo tax.

[1:37:06] I want to use the turbo tax.

[1:37:07] I want to use the OTC, whatever the thing is.

[1:37:09] You feel the thing that, that, that, that, that,

[1:37:11] for indexes if you're retired. And we always get in the hundreds, 233

[1:37:18] of the highest credit we ever got.

[1:37:22] You're allowing for a net and you have about 2040 something thousand

[1:37:28] Now we're stuck with it.

[1:37:30] That's awkward. Well, thank you. Thank you. Could you have symptoms? Yes, any of you, you said that if you had an evadement of the penalties, that would make a difference.

[1:37:44] So, do you have that figure? Oh, no. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I can get it. I have it from the past year or two. I've been on a plane of flying with a lot of kind of distance.

[1:37:54] interest. It was maybe $30 a month, but I don't see, and then interest was another $1,000

[1:38:01] assistant. Our loan is cheaper, but they're not. Getting a loan, the bank's loan is cheaper,

[1:38:07] but they're paying the fees. That's what you think.

[1:38:10] That's what you think. That's what you think. That's what you think. That's what you think.

[1:38:13] This is the end. What we just got from, yes, this.

[1:38:18] That's what you think.

[1:38:20] It just makes sense.

[1:38:21] Your application does request a 50% of the payment in your job.

[1:38:25] That's huge.

[1:38:26] That's what that is.

[1:38:27] That's what I think.

[1:38:28] That's what I think.

[1:38:29] Then I can get through this year, but I have some next year, if it would be okay.

[1:38:34] It won't be great, but it would be okay.

[1:38:37] My income goes up with various.

[1:38:40] It's a social security and a pension from my job.

[1:38:45] So it's fixed.

[1:38:56] It's not giving them any information.

[1:39:00] It's fine.

[1:39:12] Does everybody look at the property tax?

[1:39:16] It's quite looking.

[1:39:17] Somebody was so glad you were to see.

[1:39:21] I sent the family at so close all my last, like,

[1:39:25] test four years of tax things.

[1:39:28] So she can try to figure it out.

[1:39:31] And her and what is what happened.

[1:39:34] I just assumed it was because

[1:39:38] They almost didn't crash was not listed

[1:39:41] Properly for it was this is 50% and then I got that change 100%

[1:39:45] There was this did as a

[1:39:47] The trailer or no building. There was no building for a while. Yeah, well, I was we don't really need to go back to the history of this one

[1:39:54] No, they said I did deal with that. I made the current at Bayshy

[1:40:00] So I have the information.

[1:40:03] Right, actually.

[1:40:06] Correctly, in all the institutions.

[1:40:08] The aggregates are one of those, a little bit.

[1:40:11] That I'm going to say the same,

[1:40:12] the aggregates are the same.

[1:40:15] I'm going to tell you that.

[1:40:17] Well, my colleague, this is more or less the same.

[1:40:22] That's what we're talking about.

[1:40:23] Yeah.

[1:40:24] That's how the standards were.

[1:40:25] So, not be fired, but that's correct.

[1:40:28] It's because the property of value increased and within the state give you from the last year,

[1:40:35] maybe you're the credit, you're going to give it this year credit for your valuable.

[1:40:40] So in June, it was given, it's very confusing because they give you credit based on the last year

[1:40:48] of your all property value.

[1:40:51] It's confusing, but you know, that's, so we start this year with this huge bill.

[1:40:56] And you did not have proper tax credit from the state.

[1:41:04] For the next year, we have a new bill, they give us, because now it's a new value of the house.

[1:41:10] So they give you the credit.

[1:41:12] So the problem is generated by essentially the building house.

[1:41:19] Yes.

[1:41:19] And that increases the tax value.

[1:41:24] And what the money you've got back from the state was based on what you paid when the tax

[1:41:31] were low when you didn't have.

[1:41:32] Yes, exactly.

[1:41:33] So you were only getting a credit for the taxable value when you had the trader.

[1:41:38] And now the house is there.

[1:41:41] And your taxes are going up.

[1:41:44] And every item of that is reasonable except for the staggering.

[1:41:49] Yes, yes, that the increase of taxes comes in a year before the money that's supposed to help you pay.

[1:42:01] Yes, yes, yes, show your even if all taxes are filed correctly and all the valuations in the property directly it's a staggering.

[1:42:13] When you build a house, the first year, yes, you're stuck, yes, that's what I'm doing here, what you're saying, yes, that's only one year.

[1:42:22] And for now, yes, is when you're, that's what you don't have.

[1:42:27] If we have those proper, if we have like a thousand, stay credit, they'll be fine.

[1:42:35] Because it's like it's doubled.

[1:42:38] And it's all they need to say to present.

[1:42:41] You've had something to say, Rachel,

[1:42:42] but it's just going to point out that this is going to end up in the path of the family,

[1:42:45] and assess me out.

[1:42:46] Very good news value goes up,

[1:42:48] which is one set of every, like the town,

[1:42:51] will receive a subset,

[1:42:53] but this is going to happen,

[1:42:54] who said, let's get out of the meeting,

[1:42:57] based on my previous leaders,

[1:43:00] that helped you.

[1:43:00] So the first year, one has to give a shot,

[1:43:12] but the next year, the first year, the second year,

[1:43:19] so I'm looking at it, so.

[1:43:22] Who year to go?

[1:43:23] Not this year?

[1:43:24] No, but it's a third year.

[1:43:26] for and return your mind and join for 24.

[1:43:30] I guess exactly so right here.

[1:43:32] I'm looking at that genius.

[1:43:34] And it was 150, were the same, almost there to the next year,

[1:43:38] right up and now last for third.

[1:43:41] And nothing change out in these three years, except they got all of it.

[1:43:45] Did you see where the son was?

[1:43:48] Yeah.

[1:43:48] I'm just saying there.

[1:43:50] I'm saying to this, this is very, very July.

[1:43:53] It's turned around so it's basically important.

[1:43:55] And that was the reason.

[1:43:57] It was the reason.

[1:43:58] Oh, this is a man.

[1:44:00] I don't know.

[1:44:01] Yeah, I don't know.

[1:44:02] I was here.

[1:44:03] Oh, I was here.

[1:44:04] From 100 and something to 23.

[1:44:07] I want to say the thing there are things.

[1:44:09] Sorry.

[1:44:10] You're Mr. Friy.

[1:44:11] Yeah.

[1:44:11] But the year before was pretty, no, too.

[1:44:14] I mean, he's right.

[1:44:15] So the three years has been that low.

[1:44:21] It was even lower.

[1:44:22] Yeah.

[1:44:24] I wouldn't like to know if anybody on the BCA has any more questions for Rebecca about her

[1:44:32] situation, or request, et cetera.

[1:44:39] You know, okay.

[1:44:42] I do have a question.

[1:44:45] Don't have a problem with the value.

[1:44:48] There's this.

[1:44:49] Dr. Talon, we set the guidance.

[1:44:51] Yeah.

[1:44:51] It's time to put a three bit and when they went from one bit to five, it's going to go back.

[1:44:55] Oh no, because it's not.

[1:44:57] That's what you have no more.

[1:44:57] No, that's not important.

[1:45:00] I would like to even improve the law if I could. But I forgot to say, oh, I can also show you all tax or

[1:45:10] return so that you see there's no change much change in the income. Well, we don't really, that's

[1:45:15] not really part of our own. I thought you'd be able to do that. There is no big, I haven't

[1:45:20] and I said, well, where a lot of money that I did is a report, is that it was a, I don't, I don't.

[1:45:27] Okay, so I suggest that we close the hearing unless you have any more information to offer

[1:45:34] or any other questions from the board. And we will enter a deliberative session now, and we will

[1:45:44] issue, issued me a written decision within 30 days.

[1:45:53] Okay.

[1:45:55] Thank you.

[1:45:58] Thank you.

[1:45:59] Thank you.

[1:46:01] Thank you.

[1:46:02] Thank you for coming in.

[1:46:03] Thank you for waiting for.

[1:46:04] Thank you.

[1:46:05] Appreciate your efforts.

[1:46:08] Thanks.

[1:46:17] Okay.

[1:46:18] We've said.

[1:46:19] What are you all saying?

[1:46:21] And I would say that's a very unintended consequence of the Comstead Tax Credit, you know, based

[1:46:29] on income that comes to people, that you have this year staggering.

[1:46:34] So there, in case, hey, this is point out, affect a lot of people.

[1:46:38] It'll affect everybody who builds a new house, who has the same income on the property

[1:46:44] a year before and now I think you've got a home state benefit on an empty property and then

[1:46:52] build a house on it. So it's a, and then, and then their attacks go down when they start getting

[1:46:57] the home state tax credit. But the way it's calculated now, it's said everybody hard for

[1:47:04] care it.

[1:47:07] What we might consider doing for them might be it, so somebody that a lot

[1:47:14] of people might be in that same boat.

[1:47:19] So we've had in mind what we decide now will set

[1:47:34] I mean, she didn't plan to set it up by killing young people.

[1:47:40] She was suggesting a payment plan without interest and penalties.

[1:47:51] And I don't know how does that need to go before the select board to request that?

[1:47:58] Yes.

[1:47:59] Please, we had Halloween because she's working on right now to be as so much in that

[1:48:04] fashion.

[1:48:05] But now a week person was before a long and spread it out.

[1:48:11] She came back for the motion that it's the motion, so that it's absolutely lovely

[1:48:15] and fun.

[1:48:16] But it has to come up with the platform that she thought.

[1:48:21] I think this board, we've got a joke.

[1:48:25] This board has the discretion to look at the, you know,

[1:48:28] all the tests. Yes, and what is the address? This board can say they shouldn't have

[1:48:34] playing something with this test or anything. They have what we're just going to take off

[1:48:39] 20 dollars or whatever. It's a discussion of what they have.

[1:48:43] If it were the mistake, it would work in the ground or if you didn't do the value that I didn't

[1:48:48] argument, that's why I wanted to say I don't have a problem with the list that you said,

[1:48:52] it's too poor, so I don't have a problem with it in this. There's income really

[1:48:58] What's the kind of work that is.

[1:49:00] She's the real-life hardship, though.

[1:49:02] Right.

[1:49:02] The kettle is one of the categories that's

[1:49:05] the part of this is the kettle which is

[1:49:07] to stop the structure.

[1:49:08] Yeah, what is that?

[1:49:09] So that's what he said.

[1:49:10] That's what he said.

[1:49:13] That's what he said.

[1:49:14] I mean, more people.

[1:49:15] Oh, man.

[1:49:16] I mean, people who are listening.

[1:49:18] They've made a increase in their properties.

[1:49:22] in their property, which results in a higher tax rate, or with it.

[1:49:29] And then, successfully, a year later,

[1:49:32] a higher reimbursement from the state, you guys didn't?

[1:49:35] I'm not, there was, there was a result of the same tax bill.

[1:49:38] So we know, I don't know, in some of the comments,

[1:49:40] but that's the question about it.

[1:49:42] I didn't see it, which has to, but I do think

[1:49:46] it was, take more, and about the rest of it,

[1:49:50] Because of the time when the place of wisdom that is coming, it's such a big thing, because we're so far behind the market.

[1:49:57] So it's not that everyone's taxes are going to go up.

[1:50:01] But for that first year, we were just hitting the most of that credit.

[1:50:05] It's going to get much less based on their current, their new right, their away from.

[1:50:12] Because it's going to be based on the previous year, so the first year.

[1:50:16] I don't think I'm going to get over there.

[1:50:18] It's probably not in relation to health.

[1:50:22] It's at my mom's step.

[1:50:24] Yeah, I'm right here in the practice.

[1:50:25] And I'm based on the value of the value of the value of me.

[1:50:28] It's a percentage of the value.

[1:50:30] Because you have just put it in.

[1:50:34] I don't know.

[1:50:35] I don't know.

[1:50:38] Because I don't know.

[1:50:39] I don't know.

[1:50:40] I don't know.

[1:50:41] I don't know.

[1:50:44] I don't know.

[1:50:46] and so performing with based on your think of hands and the other side here, all in a far

[1:50:53] year.

[1:50:54] But I feel like you're so excited to see that so much.

[1:50:57] Somebody's responsibility for the orange, detached pairs of this down there.

[1:51:02] They give me a value of the blue.

[1:51:03] They are going to get blindsided.

[1:51:06] We melt in there.

[1:51:07] We have a hell of a pill.

[1:51:08] They're going to be dumb to us because they're not going to be very bad.

[1:51:12] wrong, really, don't know that because of everybody,

[1:51:15] one of the dad's, the one who's lost,

[1:51:17] everybody are all happy to hold up.

[1:51:20] It's still, it's still going to be

[1:51:22] still going to apply the next amount of pastures.

[1:51:24] That's true.

[1:51:25] That's true.

[1:51:26] You know, it's great overall, but we're down in the dentist's

[1:51:29] larger.

[1:51:30] But an individual person who's getting a credit,

[1:51:34] is then again, a couple of six credit person,

[1:51:37] the prettiest reviews about it, which is that if you're

[1:51:40] much better for that.

[1:51:42] It's a detergent.

[1:51:42] How did it go?

[1:51:43] It was all.

[1:51:44] We have people that don't know it.

[1:51:45] So everyone is going to get a change to value notice.

[1:51:49] Virtually every single person who owns property doesn't necessarily get a change of value.

[1:51:54] That's a great solution.

[1:51:55] But it tells you what your value is changing.

[1:51:58] It doesn't tell you what your taxes are going to be.

[1:52:00] We don't know that.

[1:52:01] It can tell us how much their greed is.

[1:52:03] It's going to know that.

[1:52:04] It's a nice tax.

[1:52:05] It's a nice tax.

[1:52:05] I tell you, Grand, but one day, Grand was done.

[1:52:08] And that's what we're going to do right now.

[1:52:09] It is how much of a great brand this goes because that brand is that you divide it into the buildings.

[1:52:16] And right now we can say that you were at the all-time high on the Lincoln gas.

[1:52:21] And you got to be careful of what we're doing.

[1:52:23] We're working hard to sell it.

[1:52:25] We're out of gold now.

[1:52:26] $900,000.

[1:52:27] Like that.

[1:52:28] The Lincoln taxes.

[1:52:30] He's not fixed on per issue. It's not necessarily fixed on changes of evaluation, anything is

[1:52:38] based on COVID and a, or she's on their practice of my thing, one's practice. There's the key problem that

[1:52:48] So, I don't care if I can feel even in this factor of the castling person, and given that

[1:52:55] she stated that if we evaded penalties and interests and set up a payment plan, that would

[1:53:01] help her, how do we feel about following that little, but everybody's feeling comfortable

[1:53:07] with that.

[1:53:09] Thank you.

[1:53:10] It's a card moment.

[1:53:11] It's a card moment.

[1:53:14] It's a card moment.

[1:53:16] back and give her tax and done correctly.

[1:53:19] I think my name senior is not just not going to try to do so.

[1:53:22] I think your taxes may have been directly that small amount of

[1:53:27] she got was based on the trailer and then I'll be kind of.

[1:53:31] And even though the house was already there, and now she's paying taxes on the house that's

[1:53:37] already there that year, but the amount that we ain't got, or almost been right based

[1:53:44] on the trailer.

[1:53:44] So the first year, you build anything.

[1:53:49] If you first year, you double your size in the house or the vision, the state does help

[1:53:55] to only face on the prior year, and that becomes almost a construction once.

[1:54:01] That first year, you have to pay extra until the state formula, which I'll get least dragged

[1:54:08] after you're behind it.

[1:54:10] Is delicate and efficient.

[1:54:12] Are you really putting this up?

[1:54:14] Build enough old net because that money from the state

[1:54:17] because the town cat, you've loaded the town.

[1:54:20] I don't know if you can consider that.

[1:54:22] I don't think you can consider that.

[1:54:23] You want the natural, what are they?

[1:54:25] If you just want the math rent.

[1:54:27] You want the math rent.

[1:54:27] On the math with the child's order.

[1:54:29] OK, so I would like to go back to Peggy's suggestion

[1:54:34] and I'll consider that emotion to proceed

[1:54:38] in that direction that we can all sit and pack that was okay and things that interest and

[1:54:46] advisor just said a payment plan with Kelly that they remain that's who she should go to was that right

[1:54:52] yes stayed people here with town people okay and yes we also have to when we're bathing

[1:54:59] for interest in childhood. As you already paid that, if she has, how does she know we

[1:55:07] see those funds as a credit? It's fair. How far are you going to have paid that?

[1:55:13] No, that's the other question. I'll borrow this. I'll borrow you paid penalties and interest.

[1:55:19] And if there have already been paid, this should get to have.

[1:55:23] I'm going to do that. I'm going to tell you the way that you found something else sometime ago.

[1:55:26] Yeah, say it's about completely annoying, or in a case of the process is equally easy or hard to give somebody a credit against a country payment versus cutting them a check for something that they need.

[1:55:42] I don't know if you're saying we are paid if we could get that.

[1:55:44] Okay, sir.

[1:55:45] But I have a little problem because they were living in the house and getting charged for a trailer.

[1:55:53] So they were already had the house there.

[1:55:56] The only reason why this fall happened was they came in,

[1:56:00] because the listeners said that we didn't take their trailer off because they got rid of it.

[1:56:04] So they only sent the tile over there to the house and didn't have the houses already there.

[1:56:09] So it was kind of like I don't I don't like the it's like a double tip

[1:56:15] If they had not gone in on the trailer

[1:56:19] They wouldn't have known that they had the house there. They would be paying on the trailer and so the new appraisal and they wouldn't have told us that

[1:56:26] They weren't the one coming to us saying that they put the house there

[1:56:31] We stood at the reason why didn't we found that out was because they came to mine because their trailer wasn't

[1:56:37] And then we got a new appraiser right after that, and the list that the previous appraiser

[1:56:51] at Al had did completely get transferred over to Tyler.

[1:56:57] So what about the bills in the Senate?

[1:56:59] I would actually mean that they would have high attacks on a really great number.

[1:57:04] So, I think they had a building permit for the house.

[1:57:12] So, right, and because it was overlooked during the pandemic, it's not.

[1:57:20] I think that over turns the double dipping,

[1:57:25] I mean, it's not their fault.

[1:57:31] They got it for a bit.

[1:57:32] They told the town that they were building this house.

[1:57:36] I don't even know.

[1:57:38] I don't enjoy it.

[1:57:40] But not because the town wasn't foreign, but because the town forgot.

[1:57:43] You didn't have a very old building.

[1:57:45] They haven't lived in the old city.

[1:57:49] Yeah, so even in the same situation, also near it.

[1:57:52] Right, just the earlier.

[1:57:55] So yeah, we're going to need this kind of compute.

[1:57:59] Yeah, we're not leaving. I'm going to kind of have it knocking for one more.

[1:58:02] In the early days of the war until we've got to go collect the money.

[1:58:05] And if you came back and made a bacon that you're going to give them an X credit,

[1:58:10] then counting can take the credit to be done with.

[1:58:12] But to go and say that we're going to wait this and wait that.

[1:58:16] We would have to come back again and try to figure out what that dollar amount is

[1:58:20] Because it'd be fair to Kelly we got it at and say this is the credit. You got to give to their account

[1:58:26] Then set up paper, you know, didn't work

[1:58:30] But we're gonna leave and say we're gonna just give her abs and nobody know who's gonna calculate it

[1:58:35] And then there's a we've none of those are going to really know when we read tonight. I'm with one

[1:58:40] But I think we can trust Kelly to figure out the penalties and interest rights. Yeah, I know for

[1:58:46] originally

[1:58:50] right, but it doesn't mean it's not.

[1:58:53] I'm just thinking.

[1:58:54] I mean, you know, okay.

[1:58:55] That's what I mean.

[1:58:56] And what's the important thing?

[1:58:57] We're trying to let go.

[1:58:59] Yeah, that's what we got to do.

[1:59:00] Yeah, that's what you talk about.

[1:59:01] Well, you talk about cutting some of them and you check.

[1:59:03] That's already behind on the attacks is, this got services for them.

[1:59:07] They're kind of plowed.

[1:59:09] There hasn't been picked up.

[1:59:11] They're making payments and I understand.

[1:59:13] But are we going to, do a little bad?

[1:59:16] They go away for penalties and interest in color of the check.

[1:59:20] I don't know, I just want to read that well for you.

[1:59:24] Even though these people do seem to be willing to pay their taxes.

[1:59:29] They say that they pay their taxes previously.

[1:59:32] She stated that she feels comfortable paying their taxes going forward with them.

[1:59:38] I don't think it's a sort of thing that we give them a check and they run away and don't pay their taxes.

[1:59:46] You know, let's see, go from, okay, from right now, from this man forward, this is the way we're going to handle it.

[1:59:51] But we're not going to go back and decide to cut you and check for the last years of this.

[2:00:00] May it be, that's what wasn't being said, because we are into it. We said we were going to cover

[2:00:08] a chat for what they've already paid for penalties and, and I think you don't

[2:00:13] deliver for this year's taxes, that that patient must, but I don't know.

[2:00:18] At 20, more than 25, 10, 20, 24, 25 taxes is what is, so we could specify to forgive the

[2:00:30] interest on the 24-25 taxes.

[2:00:34] If there is, so penalty is, once you miss your tax payment,

[2:00:39] you get like a 10 percent penalty and then it's like a 10 percent. It's been a word for something like that,

[2:00:45] right? I mean, it's kind of vertical and there's a lot of some seconds because it's yielded for a

[2:00:49] second one, but you don't need to know of the second one, you get hit a lot harder and so in February,

[2:00:55] because you also didn't do that in September. It's a formable, but it's never more than

[2:01:02] eight percent. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[2:01:06] Yeah, as a source, you're calculated by the year, by the day, by the month.

[2:01:10] Yeah, by the month.

[2:01:12] Why don't you want the month?

[2:01:14] Yeah, yeah.

[2:01:14] Why didn't you have to sign a month?

[2:01:15] It's been like that.

[2:01:16] Yeah, yeah.

[2:01:17] Yeah, yeah.

[2:01:17] But then if you don't make the February, then there's a penalty.

[2:01:21] the lenders. I think both. I think it's not much for them. I'm saying. So they give you a chance

[2:01:26] because you just got the bill and you forgot to pay it. It's like we're gonna pass that one

[2:01:31] out there and let you guys change that in September one we would wave sometimes the penalty

[2:01:37] right out front that everybody is a little late, but there's no excuse to be late and bubbly.

[2:01:42] You see what I'm saying? Because you now had that bill the long night and after the

[2:01:52] If you said there was $900,000 per bill, the link will be a little bit of a time

[2:01:59] work on it.

[2:02:00] So he's not the only one that he was at all the time, but she's going to the process and

[2:02:06] is coming to us and asking for process to help her with it.

[2:02:11] Other people are five years out on taxes, quite a while of them, and they aren't coming to

[2:02:19] us at all, and we have not gone through a tax sale process and all that to force it.

[2:02:28] We're heading that direction now, but we have to do it a lot. This process is a lot

[2:02:34] cheap and much more quiet. She's come to us.

[2:02:41] I like the pictures track.

[2:02:44] I mean, so far, we've done 27 contracts, since we just

[2:02:47] started to realize with this E. So, Kelly has been working hard at it.

[2:02:51] We're trying to work with these people, and we get caught up.

[2:02:54] I hate setting up a president that we're all saying, hey, wait a minute.

[2:02:57] Go to the VCA and they'll turn around and help you out with it.

[2:03:01] On the other hand, is what she'd asked for is help.

[2:03:05] And then they could go over Kelly.

[2:03:07] We couldn't maybe just swipe for it.

[2:03:09] that you wish they hear when more charged for the public.

[2:03:12] Each one's all different.

[2:03:13] If you sit down with them and try to do a contract with them.

[2:03:17] In the end, they'll all run your trips,

[2:03:19] try to help them out quite their money.

[2:03:22] So we have motion with all.

[2:03:25] We have motion with all.

[2:03:26] Yeah, yeah.

[2:03:28] Can you state that again, please?

[2:03:30] I make a motion that you have a bait

[2:03:33] for interest in penalties for the tax year 2025

[2:03:38] and encouraged her to set up a pain and plan going forward.

[2:03:42] This is the 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, so she would go to, so we would

[2:03:51] abate her, so we would find out what those amounts are and credit her for her pain and plan

[2:04:00] or maybe the first.

[2:04:01] So Kelly's already charging it.

[2:04:03] You see what I'm saying?

[2:04:04] You know, she's already charging for your,

[2:04:07] what she's trying to make the motion

[2:04:08] is that we wait those charges.

[2:04:10] Does that make sense?

[2:04:12] Yes.

[2:04:12] Has she paid them?

[2:04:13] No.

[2:04:14] Okay.

[2:04:15] Kelly's already calculated out that here's the penalty.

[2:04:18] Here's the fine.

[2:04:19] What she was, the tax.

[2:04:21] Kelly could instantly just say,

[2:04:23] okay, let's give her that yours, the tax.

[2:04:25] Right.

[2:04:26] That's what she was saying.

[2:04:28] That's what she was saying.

[2:04:29] Yeah.

[2:04:29] I know that's, but I'm not telling you.

[2:04:33] But Kelly would know, I'm not talking about that.

[2:04:35] I'm not talking about that.

[2:04:36] Fresh Kelly would say, okay, you're going to work with me.

[2:04:41] Wave it, get out and it's going to be a calendar year too, because it may be a thing

[2:04:46] that is trying to add.

[2:04:47] Again, I love it a year.

[2:04:48] That's what I have done.

[2:04:50] Yes, she would Kelly would calculate it, though, ready so that some if she called and

[2:04:54] said how much I owe Kelly would say you will this month, plus you owe the panel team and

[2:04:58] you all the interest, but this isn't that precedent that it's done before. It's

[2:05:03] well, we never wait there or that I don't. I never wait there before.

[2:05:11] But it is in the board. Yes. Yes. This is the thing. Yeah, we can do that. There's a

[2:05:16] whistle. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You could go back to, I don't think it's like

[2:05:21] we'll have to be involved with it, but they don't know how it doesn't have to be in

[2:05:25] But as Rachel said, we make the decision there and that's how it goes.

[2:05:30] The decision is that there were kids gotten clear.

[2:05:33] We're only taking away the credit if they've already said,

[2:05:36] Hey, I want the money because they gave it.

[2:05:39] No, it's not money.

[2:05:39] It's our credit.

[2:05:41] Right.

[2:05:42] Right.

[2:05:42] It's the right.

[2:05:46] And the real clear that they still have status on both the penalty and the fee.

[2:05:50] So is that starting now or is that starting at the beginning of the tax?

[2:05:54] No, it's not quite a few laughs in front of me last year's right. Yes, it's already a few more 24 or 24

[2:06:01] Yes,

[2:06:05] yes, you know, we know you will come after us, but you know what is a dozen paper affecting folks at the time of the

[2:06:10] Okay, so she kept it with me whether it's that age the last year all your penalty of anything is still almost the fact that

[2:06:18] You want to do the payment plan and then how we end when that year. Okay, that's what you're gonna

[2:06:24] we have a motion on the floor to vote whether or not we are going to remove the penalties

[2:06:33] and interest from last year's tax. Yeah, Bill. Correct. Okay, anybody with

[2:06:42] to second gun. Oh, this is already second. Oh, was Susan did. Okay. All right. So let's

[2:06:49] vote with that. Okay. All in favor of that plan, please say I thought I had anybody

[2:06:57] opposed to that? So that was you, man. That was you, man. Okay. So it was, we got

[2:07:10] So this last one is quite straightforward.

[2:07:23] You're going to do that.

[2:07:25] I'm going to go on.

[2:07:28] I'm going to go on.

[2:07:29] It's even a war.

[2:07:31] First we're going to need a little more contact, we're going to get the public council.

[2:08:03] So that's the only part that we've used for the first thing we've made enough, and I can't do the math, but if we test this on, it's for the only part.

[2:08:14] So when I go down, you do it. Okay.

[2:08:17] And I use the non-holstead rate because it's very soft.

[2:08:22] Yes, right.

[2:08:23] It should be not about five inches, two points, seven, five, four, oh, kind of,

[2:08:27] 4, 1, 1, 100.

[2:08:29] This goes up under $12.

[2:08:31] And $9,000.

[2:08:32] That'd be good.

[2:08:33] And is that for that?

[2:08:34] That's a little further.

[2:08:35] That's clear.

[2:08:36] Another thing to claim is that it burned on March 3rd for the saying.

[2:08:41] And that we step it up or close our accounting for things.

[2:08:47] is April 1st. So, I wasn't ignore the one day. Oh, I can't stand there.

[2:08:55] Let's say it's just starting from April, but I should say we're just saying.

[2:09:00] That's 20, 7, 20 steps.

[2:09:02] The 25, 26 steps. Okay.

[2:09:04] And then this is a lot of understanding this clear.

[2:09:06] There's, you automatically do it next year until the cab is back up.

[2:09:10] We'll take it off.

[2:09:11] We'll take it off.

[2:09:12] We'll first, next year, time we will go and see if there's anything different.

[2:09:16] so we're only doing out of here for that one.

[2:09:20] There's a pair of red stuff.

[2:09:21] You're abiding the shirt and they have a share or a share.

[2:09:25] There's this year.

[2:09:27] This year.

[2:09:30] So I think.

[2:09:31] All year when I was saying so.

[2:09:34] So I have a son that's a son that's not.

[2:09:36] That's because he's doing it.

[2:09:37] Yeah, you know, it's like that.

[2:09:40] I think.

[2:09:41] I think it's cool.

[2:09:42] I think it's cool.

[2:09:42] I've been here for the last year.

[2:09:43] I've got to be more of the count on your $12 dollars.

[2:09:47] 91 cents.

[2:09:49] I'm sorry.

[2:09:50] Really, thanks.

[2:09:52] I might be a problem with that.

[2:09:53] Yeah.

[2:09:54] She made a point to say it was 331.

[2:09:57] So I could put the proposed that you would know that one day.

[2:10:01] But I think they're looking for the last year also.

[2:10:04] I don't know that.

[2:10:06] She asked me the last year.

[2:10:07] She never does the only go from the day.

[2:10:09] Well, I've done enough of these burns of the ground.

[2:10:11] We've always credit, we've always credit from the day whatever percentage we've left in that year, so it was only one day left in that year.

[2:10:18] So when being paid for that would only be the third percent public.

[2:10:26] I don't know how that time of the third year.

[2:10:29] I don't know how that time of the third year.

[2:10:32] I don't know how that time of the third year.

[2:10:33] That's definitely a taxable man.

[2:10:35] Okay, bird did nothing about something like that.

[2:10:38] because of the brands on up there, do they have an opportunity to want it?

[2:10:43] I like two years later.

[2:10:46] And does that happen?

[2:10:47] No, I see.

[2:10:47] It's somebody's home.

[2:10:48] They can't believe they know.

[2:10:50] No, don't have to expect it.

[2:10:52] That's only for it.

[2:10:53] I know what.

[2:10:53] I thought it was actually.

[2:10:54] I think we should put the doll on.

[2:10:56] I know.

[2:10:57] It is actually burned.

[2:10:58] Oh, joint length.

[2:10:59] I know.

[2:11:00] Don't want it.

[2:11:01] We saw it.

[2:11:03] It's out.

[2:11:03] But it's hard.

[2:11:05] It's hard.

[2:11:05] There's a thin word.

[2:11:06] There's nothing.

[2:11:07] And there's nothing there.

[2:11:10] And what I want to say, we worked out without the dollar that you made a motion that

[2:11:16] we made this tax on this account for we lower the value of his property by 41,000.

[2:11:22] What do you're saying?

[2:11:23] What do you want to do?

[2:11:24] I don't want to.

[2:11:24] I'm sorry.

[2:11:26] By the valuation of the account, it no longer deserves it.

[2:11:30] That's that.

[2:11:30] We lower the valuation of the property.

[2:11:32] Yeah.

[2:11:32] I didn't leave it up to them to say that.

[2:11:34] By the valuation of the account.

[2:11:35] that by $4,000, but $4,100?

[2:11:39] Okay.

[2:11:39] Where is it?

[2:11:41] That's here.

[2:11:43] So maybe we should have a new emotion.

[2:11:46] Oh yeah.

[2:11:46] I'm just wondering I'm all right.

[2:11:49] Make a motion that we lower it.

[2:11:52] You've more than $100,000 for this.

[2:11:55] This will be near $20,000.

[2:11:58] $1,500.

[2:11:58] That's you.

[2:11:59] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[2:12:02] on that. On that parcel. We'll we'll we'll on that.

[2:12:09] And we'll have the grand list.

[2:12:11] And finally, there are some emissions.

[2:12:13] We'll select words for that.

[2:12:15] And it's a camera program.

[2:12:17] We'll calculate what the balance is.

[2:12:20] We still have come out.

[2:12:21] And then we'll.

[2:12:22] And then we'll.

[2:12:23] Belly.

[2:12:27] So as we can.

[2:12:28] We're just going to tell him that we've agreed to lower

[2:12:30] evaluation for the tax in your 2025-26 by the appraised value of that cabin, which was $4,100,

[2:12:40] and then he will be receiving a new tax bill. Okay, so good enough.

[2:12:45] all those grandsonas. And I'm not a good girl.

[2:12:51] Is there a second? Certainly.

[2:12:53] Thank you, Jeanette.

[2:12:55] Okay. I think that at this point, we can close those two.

[2:12:59] All of them.

[2:13:00] They ever say.

[2:13:01] We have to go.

[2:13:02] We need to go.

[2:13:04] All those in favor.

[2:13:06] Hi.

[2:13:08] And John is...

[2:13:10] I'm more in favor.

[2:13:10] You're good on that.

[2:13:12] Okay.

[2:13:13] That's you.

[2:13:14] It's great. Thank you. Okay people, I think I'm going to close this meeting.

[2:13:18] And I'm going to close the meeting during.

[2:13:19] Yeah, I'm going to close the meeting during.

[2:13:25] And we have reconvened the week.

[2:13:28] Yes.

[2:13:28] Hi, Zoom.

[2:13:29] Yes, we can do that by the time.

[2:13:30] I have to hear how it happens.

[2:13:33] Or we can live by in person.

[2:13:35] Or whatever, or it's interesting.

[2:13:37] I think we've actually done.

[2:13:38] I'm going to do.

[2:13:39] And we hope to learn for us.

[2:13:40] It's made of energy.

[2:13:41] It's not there.

[2:13:42] Right.

[2:13:42] He's not there.

Untitled meeting

Transcript