[0:00] All right. So, weing

[0:03] and Phil everyone's here except uh we're

[0:06] waiting on Jen.

[0:09] So, maybe we could

[0:12] I don't know. Did everybody get a chance

[0:14] to look at the minutes? I thought it was

[0:17] spot on. Yep.

[0:19] >> So, I guess I'll move that we accept the

[0:21] minutes as they're written.

[0:22] >> Second.

[0:24] >> All in favor?

[0:26] >> All right. Um, so we're gonna have the

[0:29] folks from the uh

[0:33] farm to school uh effort here a little

[0:36] later. So I thought we could kind of Why

[0:39] don't we Why don't we do um you want

[0:42] Dave, you want to talk about the signs

[0:44] here? Give us an update.

[0:45] >> Yeah. Okay. Um that new quote

[0:48] um for five signs with the artwork

[0:53] comes out $495

[0:56] for five signs with the artwork.

[0:59] >> Wow. Okay, great. And you want to do

[1:02] five? Well,

[1:03] >> yeah, that's what the quote was. We said

[1:05] five. So, if you want to

[1:07] >> No, no. I mean, we have 1,600 to spend

[1:10] >> and I have uh yours

[1:13] two signs.

[1:15] >> Okay. Yep. Yep. So, uh Amy Lali, we who

[1:20] works here in the town office and Jimmy

[1:22] Galanka both wanted a sign for a display

[1:27] that's going to be both on Route Five.

[1:29] We're not allowed to put one. It just

[1:32] off of the right away. Right. Yeah. So,

[1:34] I'm sure Jim will put it on his farm.

[1:36] Right. So, Okay. Well, that's uh that's

[1:39] great. How well

[1:40] >> I gota I get, you know, we have to

[1:42] figure out I'm going to bring up that

[1:44] one picture where digital. You got to

[1:48] have it digital.

[1:49] >> Yeah.

[1:49] >> Take a little time to get it digital,

[1:51] you know, to get it

[1:54] >> to. Okay. But Joanne can do that or

[1:57] >> we got a we got that one copy we had. We

[2:00] had the big sign with the blue

[2:03] background. That's copy. The only thing

[2:06] is the tractor in there is uh could be

[2:09] copyright because it's not uh

[2:14] took they took it off another picture.

[2:16] >> Okay. So, we can get the tractor, but

[2:18] they're they're going to when I go up

[2:19] there, we're going to figure it out.

[2:21] >> Okay.

[2:22] >> So, do you need a check? Is that kind of

[2:25] the next thing?

[2:26] >> I think so. Um they said they uh I got

[2:29] the I can leave this here.

[2:32] Keep it.

[2:32] >> Yeah, I'll take it. you know, but um um

[2:35] they want to deposit for like $971.

[2:39] >> Okay. Which is like

[2:42] >> three quarters of

[2:43] >> Yeah. The final balance is $323.75.

[2:48] » Okay. I bet the uh

[2:51] >> I bet the balance

[2:56] » why don't we um All right. Let me just

[2:58] talk Let me just talk to Peter. Um, so

[3:01] it was like 971

[3:03] versus like 1280 something.

[3:06] >> Yeah, 1295.

[3:07] >> 95.

[3:09] >> I don't know. Maybe this needs to put it

[3:11] in check.

[3:12] >> Yeah, it it probably is. I'll I'll let

[3:14] them decide. So

[3:17] >> if they want to do it between checks or

[3:19] one check and how much money?

[3:22] >> Yeah.

[3:23] >> How much was the um yours? Yeah, the two

[3:27] for

[3:27] >> uh $478.13

[3:32] because you're not uh the town doesn't

[3:34] get charged tax, right?

[3:35] >> This is private, so you were charged

[3:37] sales tax or $28.

[3:39] >> All right, so that's about $239 a piece.

[3:42] All right, that's less artwork than I

[3:44] told

[3:45] that's not bad.

[3:46] >> Yeah, that's

[3:48] the artwork

[3:50] included.

[3:52] >> Okay. Well, let me let me talk to Peter

[3:54] tomorrow and um and we'll just This is

[3:58] for you that it's made out to you.

[4:00] >> Oh, okay. So,

[4:03] I promise I'm not mark anything up. I'm

[4:05] just completing my ethics training.

[4:08] >> Can't pro. We have to do that every

[4:10] year.

[4:11] >> Two years.

[4:12] >> Well, there's one and that's I did want

[4:14] to mention it. Okay. Well, so let's finish up the signs here. So,

[4:17] let's let me talk to Peter and I'll just

[4:19] I'll call you. I'll find you and we'll

[4:21] just

[4:21] >> Yeah.

[4:23] Yeah.

[4:27] >> I'll bring what I You should bring where

[4:29] whatever you have.

[4:30] >> Yep.

[4:31] >> Okay.

[4:32] >> So, you just need like a free stock

[4:33] image of a tractor.

[4:35] >> Yeah. Yeah. Because um the ones we had

[4:38] there.

[4:40] >> Yeah. But it sounds like hail can

[4:42] provide, you know,

[4:44] >> you know, it's nice tractors and stuff,

[4:46] but it's almost, you know, something

[4:49] that

[4:49] >> they may be able to do make a minor

[4:53] change to it and it'll be

[4:55] >> it would be nice to try to that Joey. It

[4:58] looks nicer. I mean, it looks more like

[5:00] a farmer because it has,

[5:02] >> you know, the baseball hat maybe changed

[5:04] to get instead of a straw hat. The

[5:06] baseball hat, you know, most farmers got

[5:08] baseball hats. They don't have straw

[5:09] hats and

[5:10] >> Yeah. else, you know, that kind of

[5:11] thing.

[5:12] >> Okay. So, seems really uh helpful and

[5:15] interested. So, they really want to get

[5:18] going as soon as we can.

[5:20] >> Okay.

[5:22] So, we uh I told them, you know,

[5:25] we'll get the meeting today.

[5:32] » So, so my understanding is that we've

[5:34] chosen the artwork that was done by

[5:37] Joanne, right? And there there was there

[5:40] was a picture

[5:41] >> that that was like a digital ditch. She

[5:43] did got done for somebody that heard for

[5:45] her. So, okay, I can bring up that

[5:47] picture

[5:48] >> because we want to have a different kind

[5:50] of background, right? Show that

[5:52] basically shows a different background.

[5:54] >> Okay. So, so that's we're not nobody's

[5:57] talking about using that tractor image.

[5:59] We're just talking about using Joans,

[6:02] >> right?

[6:02] >> Okay. I just But

[6:04] >> unless they can't do it, but I would

[6:05] think they'd be able to do it because

[6:07] everything's digital. Well, they can

[6:08] get, you know, they got

[6:11] somehow.

[6:12] >> If if they can't, then we'll find out

[6:14] why they can't. We'll just take care of

[6:16] Yeah.

[6:18] >> Okay. We have our next We have our next

[6:21] move on that. That's great. Um, so, uh,

[6:25] yeah. Curious. Will this be installed by

[6:28] the spring, you think, or?

[6:30] >> I guess probably. I would think if we

[6:32] got the signs, you know. Yeah, I think

[6:35] some afternoon, you know, once the signs

[6:37] are made, I think they want to put them

[6:38] right up. The highway department, he

[6:40] said some they were going to do it.

[6:43] >> Yeah. And they got the poles, any kind

[6:45] of poles that would work, you know. So,

[6:47] >> right. Of course, they're pretty good

[6:49] size signs 18 by 24.

[6:53] >> So, we're going to like mark like put a

[6:55] stake in the ground or something where

[6:56] they go.

[6:57] >> I think they're going to try to put them

[6:59] on existing poles. Okay. So, and if and

[7:03] if that doesn't work out for any reason,

[7:05] I think there was some thinking we might

[7:07] have.

[7:07] >> Yeah, we have uh five different

[7:09] locations. I think two on River Road to

[7:12] up by um coming from Conway by the

[7:15] reservoir the one right there

[7:18] >> u from the reservoir from coming from

[7:20] Williamsburg to from Williamsburg this

[7:24] way the way he put one there. That's

[7:26] some place to find a school or

[7:27] something.

[7:28] >> Sales.

[7:29] >> Mhm.

[7:30] >> On the school entryway.

[7:32] >> Yeah.

[7:34] >> Cases.

[7:36] >> Great place to start.

[7:39] >> Yeah. Yeah. Um

[7:43] All right. Good. Um so I guess next on

[7:47] the list here is the weightly scoop

[7:49] spring summer inclusion. The big

[7:52] beautiful bill was volunteered

[7:57] arm twisted to be the

[8:02] » to be the liaison the soup. So signal

[8:06] team and we need to buy was it

[8:10] >> I I put my most recent scoop in excill

[8:24] » anyway I think it says in the back

[8:28] in case you're three or so

[8:31] seems like it's more than four times a

[8:33] year seems like it does, but it's not

[8:36] like always a little bit of mailbox or

[8:39] spoons.

[8:41] >> So, um I think it would be great if we

[8:43] hit the next edition with sort of maybe

[8:46] a an explanation of what what everyone's

[8:49] going to see as they drive around town.

[8:54] And I honestly I sat down a couple times

[8:56] to because we kept missing scoop

[8:58] deadlines by like four hours. And I I

[9:03] was sitting down to try to write

[9:04] something after having read this right

[9:06] like actually read the right to farm

[9:09] bylaws. And it's really kind of like

[9:12] you know it it's written to protect

[9:15] farmers from nuisance lawsuits and and

[9:17] the you know it's like kind of hard. I

[9:20] know Bill's gonna do a good job, but I

[9:22] think it'll be tricky to kind of not

[9:24] sound like, hey, we're going to do

[9:26] whatever we want, right?

[9:28] >> You know,

[9:29] >> and you're going to deal with nothing

[9:31] you can do about it. This is why. And

[9:33] so, it's going to be a little bit tricky

[9:35] to tone the thing, right, for, you know,

[9:38] >> the public

[9:38] >> general consumption. Yeah. But, uh, you

[9:41] could add something about like the

[9:42] pamphlets and the and the farm and the

[9:46] signs going up to kind of tone it down a

[9:50] little bit, you know, and like

[9:51] >> have it be sort of an inclusive

[9:54] community vibe to it.

[9:55] >> Yeah. So, you know, a lot of important

[9:57] agricultures in the town area.

[10:00] >> Yeah. And we got the best we got the we

[10:03] got a word smith on it.

[10:05] >> That's correct.

[10:06] So no to the

[10:10] Joey and Danny for

[10:15] » Yeah. Jo.

[10:18] It actually might be kind of nice if we

[10:20] could get a picture. Do they do pictures

[10:22] on the scoop from

[10:28] » on every page?

[10:30] Um, I wonder if we could get a picture

[10:32] of maybe Joanne with next to one of the

[10:35] signs.

[10:37] >> She She So, she was the artist for this.

[10:39] >> Correct. Yeah.

[10:41] >> Be good for spring or summer or summer.

[10:44] >> And then I wonder if maybe we could get

[10:46] the updated pamphlet in the June

[10:49] >> the uh the June edition.

[10:52] >> Sorry, we threw you off. That's okay.

[10:54] Just hung out with the folks over there

[10:56] for a while like Right.

[11:01] >> Like, oh, wait a minute. They're talking

[11:02] about important things.

[11:08] » Oh, thanks for coming, Teresa.

[11:10] >> Thanks.

[11:12] >> Um, I don't know. Any any thoughts about

[11:16] that? You want to write something about

[11:18] it? Maybe bring it for us to look at

[11:20] next month? Sure. We're talking about

[11:22] Bob.

[11:24] I mean, there's a lot of things we can

[11:25] discuss.

[11:27] >> Yeah. I think maybe I mean my a couple

[11:30] subjects here, but we're limited in what

[11:32] we can

[11:33] >> Yeah, we're doing something every issue. You know, I think mo a lot

[11:40] of town committees, you know, historical

[11:42] society, etc., etc. kind of checks in,

[11:46] >> you know, this is

[11:48] >> Yeah. the housing committee, the giving

[11:50] garden here, you know,

[11:53] housing committee up. Yeah. So, you

[11:55] know, there's and I think it's also kind

[11:58] of an advertisement for participation to

[12:00] an extent, too. Yeah. You know,

[12:04] >> um yeah. So, I don't know. The signs uh

[12:07] look for

[12:11] participating in uh garden renovations

[12:14] at the elementary school.

[12:19] Okay.

[12:23] All right. Great. Thank you for doing

[12:25] that.

[12:26] >> Haven't done your head.

[12:30] Proud of you already.

[12:33] Oh, okay. And then this do I have?

[12:37] Um, thank you.

[12:41] All right. So, Teresa is here from the

[12:45] farm to school

[12:47] group. Uh, just you or Megan or just

[12:52] Oh.

[12:54] So, we're you're in the sort of uh

[12:56] stages of planning uh some renovations

[12:59] of the garden. You're trying to jive

[13:01] with the the landscaping proposals that were submitted

[13:06] >> and I I've made some copies.

[13:09] >> Awesome. I can share those. These are

[13:11] the It's the approved draft.

[13:14] >> Yep.

[13:14] >> So, it's not going to be finalized, I

[13:17] think, until the spring. Um

[13:21] but there it is. And I think it said um

[13:26] how much space was was allowable, but

[13:29] it's considered

[13:30] >> I think 2,000.

[13:33] >> Yeah. Which is great.

[13:35] >> Um it's small.

[13:37] Uh but you can see the garden beds, the

[13:40] raised vegetable and herb

[13:44] beds. One, two, four, eight.

[13:48] Um

[13:50] >> yep.

[13:50] >> On there. So yeah, so that was good to

[13:53] because that was, you know, one of my

[13:55] concerns thinking about going in in the

[13:59] spring is just making sure we were

[14:01] fitting in that within that bigger plan.

[14:05] >> Um, but yeah, there looks like there's a

[14:07] lot of room. And then on the back, I

[14:09] believe it's phase

[14:12] proposed phen. Yeah.

[14:16] >> Or just it just explains their basics,

[14:19] >> right? They weren't going to try to do

[14:20] everything at once,

[14:22] >> right?

[14:27] » Um,

[14:28] we were actually going to try um to

[14:31] schedule a kind of community garden day

[14:34] in April. Um, to try to get folks, you

[14:38] know, more buying from the community,

[14:40] more people involved. Um, and we have a

[14:44] small budget for materials and soil and

[14:48] things like that. Um,

[14:51] but I've wondered if we could coordinate

[14:53] in terms of timing

[14:55] >> and if you can let me know um, you know,

[14:59] materials if you could make some

[15:01] recommendations that great of things

[15:03] that we should prepare for.

[15:05] >> Right. Right. Um, so do you have a a

[15:08] sense of what you want to try to get

[15:10] done this spring?

[15:12] Well, I mean, anything we do is going to

[15:15] be an improvement. I mean, there's right

[15:18] like um

[15:18] >> there's nowhere to go but up.

[15:20] >> There's nowhere to go but

[15:22] >> um so I think you had mentioned some

[15:24] renovation on the the raspberries

[15:27] because they kids love the raspberries

[15:29] there. Yeah.

[15:30] >> Um and so we want to make sure we keep

[15:32] them. Um,

[15:34] but maybe clean them up a little bit and

[15:36] I can contact

[15:39] » if we can get some more.

[15:44] » Oh, hi.

[15:47] >> We might be looking for donated

[15:49] blueberry and raspberry.

[15:52] >> I think I know those.

[15:55] >> Do you know a guy?

[16:00] » That person I ever use is Rachel.

[16:04] facial with my neck. Okay. Yep. Anyway,

[16:08] >> I've tried best.

[16:09] >> Okay.

[16:10] >> Um but you know, we're pretty

[16:14] the school hasn't shared any like

[16:16] specific needs. They just want they just

[16:19] want a space where they can get out

[16:20] there in the dirt.

[16:21] >> Y

[16:22] >> um we've been working with um in each of

[16:24] the schools we have kind of a lead

[16:26] educator. And so lately it's Amy Tibbit

[16:29] in the third grade. Um and she's been

[16:32] wonderful. She's just super anxious to

[16:34] get the kids out there. So um we're

[16:37] actually starting with um some garlic.

[16:39] We're doing some unconventional garlic

[16:42] planning. Um we're seeing some spring

[16:44] garlic and doing some containers and

[16:46] things like that in the classroom. And

[16:48] we actually were were purchasing an

[16:51] indoor grow pack for that class so that

[16:54] each of the classes within they can have

[16:57] their own like tray and starts. We were

[16:59] hoping we could do some starters for

[17:02] when we get the garden

[17:03] >> and just get something out there, you

[17:05] know, just get it going.

[17:07] >> Sure.

[17:08] >> Um because these plants are super

[17:09] exciting and look

[17:11] >> awesome and comprehensive and it's going

[17:13] to take a while. So, we're trying to get

[17:17] things.

[17:19] >> Yeah.

[17:20] It's pretty cool.

[17:23] >> Um so, yeah, we're just beginning to do

[17:26] the planning for the garden restoration.

[17:28] So, I'm I'm really open. We are very

[17:30] open to you.

[17:31] >> Sure.

[17:33] >> Well, I know, you know, we had been

[17:34] talking I had been talking with Amy

[17:37] about trying to support

[17:39] they I thought they were going to do a

[17:41] community garden.

[17:43] >> Yeah.

[17:43] >> And we were talking about supporting

[17:45] that and then I'm not hearing too much

[17:47] talk about that. Eric, are you tuned

[17:48] into the

[17:49] >> Yeah. So, I have a little bit I was

[17:51] going to say at the end I can give a

[17:53] little

[17:53] >> Okay. It's it's it's

[17:57] slow. Um they've done like updates on

[18:01] mission statement and values and kind of

[18:05] what the proposal is. They have a

[18:07] meeting on Thursday that I'm hoping to

[18:09] zoom into.

[18:10] >> Um and then I'll be able to report more.

[18:14] But uh right now it's I have like some

[18:17] basics on what like the mission

[18:18] statement is and

[18:19] >> okay

[18:20] >> things like that. and they're trying to

[18:22] they're going to do a scoop article. Um,

[18:25] and they're trying to, you know, get

[18:27] people

[18:29] interested in the in the idea of the

[18:31] project.

[18:32] >> Okay. Okay. I I know I had I had some

[18:35] lumber mil to make raised beds,

[18:38] >> right?

[18:38] >> And and it's there. And I've also got

[18:41] some other stuff that could go for that,

[18:43] you know, for that. of this. And I know

[18:45] Mike, you were talking. I can I can

[18:47] throw some views of

[18:49] >> potting soil at it. You could throw some

[18:52] compost at it. I'm sure there's some

[18:53] parent material to work with, too. So,

[18:56] oh, I'll figure these three roughly.

[18:59] >> Well, that's part of the plan.

[19:01] >> I think we said a 4x4, right?

[19:04] >> Small smaller.

[19:06] >> Yeah. I mean, I guess we wanted to see

[19:08] what the school wanted ultimately.

[19:10] >> Yeah. But I think the ones we're talking

[19:12] about for you know

[19:13] >> Yeah, that's I'm confusing the two. I

[19:15] think with Amy I just said 4x4 is a

[19:18] yard. So it's

[19:20] >> Do you know what I mean? Like 4x4 foot

[19:23] high is one yard of material.

[19:25] >> Oh, okay.

[19:26] >> So that keeps it like

[19:28] >> Yeah.

[19:28] >> easy. Or you could do a 4x8. It's too

[19:32] you know something.

[19:33] >> Okay.

[19:34] >> A four a 4x 8 8 in two. A 4x8 is 32 *

[19:39] 2/3

[19:41] 64.

[19:43] >> Is it a 4x8 is a yard? I can't remember.

[19:45] I had it all figured out when I

[19:47] >> because 4x8 is 32 squared.

[19:50] >> And then if you multiply that by 2/3

[19:55] I can figure it out in a second, but

[19:56] there's a handy guard calculator that I

[19:59] came up with for our website.

[20:00] >> 21 and a3.4.

[20:06] Okay. So yeah, so a 4x8 and 8 in high is

[20:10] a little less than a yard.

[20:12] >> Yeah.

[20:13] >> Um

[20:15] so that's actually that's kind of a good

[20:16] number to to remember. But um

[20:19] >> yeah, it's a 4 by8 if you don't fill it

[20:22] a foot, you know, 10 in is the yard.

[20:25] >> Okay.

[20:25] >> Because I always tell people not to fill

[20:27] them all the way at the top

[20:29] >> because then you can't buy more compost.

[20:33] No, but like you want to you can't just

[20:35] you just put it in there and then never

[20:36] put add anything,

[20:38] >> right? You plant. Yeah.

[20:40] >> Yeah. You got to add some top dressing

[20:42] compost every year, you know.

[20:44] >> Right.

[20:45] >> Okay. All right. So, that that gives us

[20:47] a good reference. But I mean, I think I

[20:49] think some folks here are ready to

[20:51] contribute, you know, the actual

[20:53] materials and, you know, perhaps be

[20:55] reimbursed in a tiny way. Um if it if

[20:59] you know but um it sound you know it

[21:02] sounded like you had enough money to

[21:03] play with to at least get started.

[21:05] >> I think so.

[21:06] >> Yeah. I'd love to get a couple apple

[21:09] trees in there.

[21:11] >> Yeah, I think there's space for that,

[21:13] too.

[21:14] >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz it looks like they have

[21:16] like several.

[21:18] >> Yeah,

[21:20] >> we can probably get a cherry to put in

[21:22] there. We're putting some cherries in

[21:24] ours this spring. Okay. I'm sure I can

[21:26] just take one or two

[21:29] >> cuz yeah, maybe

[21:31] I I'll talk with Bailey about it. He

[21:34] knows more. But uh yeah, it probably

[21:37] isn't too. And I mean, I don't know if

[21:38] it's an interest, but I've got a ton of

[21:40] chestnuts that

[21:43] they get pretty big and you definitely

[21:45] need two to produce nuts, but they're up

[21:48] for grabs. One thought I'm having about

[21:51] cherries is I think when they're

[21:54] pickable, the kids aren't going to be

[21:55] there.

[21:56] >> Well, right. Yeah, they're they're going

[21:57] to be July.

[22:00] >> Yeah, June and July. No. Yeah, they'll

[22:02] be a little earlier,

[22:04] >> I think. End of June. Cherries.

[22:07] >> Yeah, let me check. Yeah, that's

[22:10] >> summer programming. Not a whole lot.

[22:12] There's a little bit at the time.

[22:15] >> Okay. Well, if you wanted some

[22:18] technology on getting the blueberries

[22:20] and the raspberry planted, you just have

[22:22] to contact me.

[22:23] >> Do a little school.

[22:25] >> Yeah.

[22:26] >> Oh, that would be great.

[22:27] >> Cool.

[22:27] >> That'd be really cool.

[22:28] >> Okay.

[22:31] >> One thought I had actually after I read

[22:33] your email there, Teresa, today was one way, you know, we could certainly

[22:39] the Acom could earmark funds for this.

[22:41] How cool would this be? Like this time

[22:44] of year, the sixth grade plans a gift

[22:49] for the kindergarteners

[22:51] like a tree

[22:53] >> or a bird bath or something for the

[22:55] garden and then it gets ordered. That's

[22:58] something we can pay for, right? And

[23:00] then you know and then before they go in

[23:02] the spring they you know plant get the

[23:04] tree planted

[23:05] >> like

[23:08] those kindergarteners do the same thing

[23:10] when they see the thing grow up you know

[23:13] and and make fruit a few you know when

[23:15] they're a few years later

[23:20] » so this number two area

[23:23] is this something that's kind of loosely

[23:25] planned out or it looks like the rocks

[23:30] It says it says natural playground.

[23:33] >> Playground.

[23:34] >> Is that

[23:36] should be that's so that's to north of

[23:38] the basketball field. So it's going to

[23:40] be like a little minefield of like

[23:42] things that they can jump and climb.

[23:45] >> I think so. I I I think these snake

[23:48] these sort of snaking uh stone paths are

[23:52] to control erosion in in natural the

[23:56] natural flow of rain, you know, coming

[23:58] off the building and

[23:59] >> and just in general back there. I

[24:04] >> I mean, if it's if it's anything like it

[24:06] was in 1980, the kids are going to be

[24:08] throwing these rocks at each other, you

[24:10] know.

[24:11] >> Well, I I do wonder about that. I I feel

[24:15] like every school that we talk to about

[24:17] gardens, when we speak to the

[24:19] maintenance folks, that's like the first

[24:21] thing they say. No small rocks.

[24:24] >> Right. Right.

[24:27] >> It's large rocks.

[24:28] >> Large rocks.

[24:29] is something our farm has

[24:32] quite a lot. We'd be happy to contribute

[24:35] >> for the hardscape

[24:37] >> rocks. We have a gravel bank, so there's

[24:39] lots of sort of, you know, ranging

[24:43] bouldery sizes to some that are quite

[24:45] big, but cool. Just need to get them

[24:48] transported over there. I don't think I

[24:50] have anything safe enough to do that

[24:51] right now, but when the time comes,

[24:54] >> yeah,

[24:55] >> you know, we can go pick around in

[24:56] there.

[24:57] >> Yeah.

[24:58] >> Who's the like who is there?

[25:00] >> So, what you're looking at is you you

[25:02] could explain it as well. So,

[25:04] >> actually went to the the walks. You

[25:06] know, more than I can tell. This is um

[25:08] Landscape Interactions is a company in

[25:11] Leiden that's owned by Okay.

[25:12] >> this guy Evan that's

[25:14] >> a designer.

[25:15] >> Yes. Yes. And so these are he got a

[25:19] grant or the town got a grant hired him

[25:21] I guess they're his company to do these

[25:25] pollinator friendly landscaping

[25:27] proposals.

[25:29] The next thing that has to happen is the

[25:32] grant now that you have in design you

[25:34] can go get the grants foration

[25:38] but

[25:40] >> that's not kind of yet planned that

[25:43] >> yeah this I think this actually is

[25:45] finalized in June or July maybe and then

[25:50] some of this you know their their phase

[25:52] three here at the school is 2029

[25:57] » um so this you

[25:59] I think that's what kind seeing that and the timing here motivated me to try

[26:04] to get in and you know jump on the guard

[26:07] >> and in the near future

[26:13] motivate to continue with the rest of it

[26:16] too. Yeah. You know the gardens in

[26:18] >> right

[26:22] again. Yeah. And you know, now they're

[26:25] just remembering the uh I don't are

[26:28] chestnuts an allergen.

[26:30] >> I wonder.

[26:33] >> Yeah. Yeah, they probably are. Tree nut

[26:37] might not be a great choice.

[26:39] >> I don't know. Like at what point are

[26:41] they an allergen? Is it just the pollen

[26:43] or is it once they're actually shelled?

[26:44] Because they're spitefuls.

[26:46] >> So you're not That's the other thing.

[26:48] They are. Well, yeah, they might not be

[26:50] a great choice for that would be

[26:52] >> I like your idea, though.

[26:54] >> Yeah. I'm just saying they're a bad

[26:58] thing about across the street and not

[27:00] big like around that huge open.

[27:02] >> Oh, sure. Yeah. Above parking lot.

[27:04] >> Yeah.

[27:05] You definitely want somewhere

[27:07] where people aren't like walking a lot

[27:09] or walking barefoot, you know,

[27:13] >> like I mean they're beautiful, but Yeah.

[27:15] There's fireballs.

[27:16] >> Yeah. Yeah. They're really fun. That can

[27:17] be fun to throw.

[27:19] >> Yeah, I was just thinking

[27:20] >> hard to pick up a six-year-old wing or

[27:23] something.

[27:24] >> Your leather work.

[27:26] >> Can the trees go in like as soon as they

[27:29] we have them so that they can start like

[27:31] getting established or is is like the

[27:33] work have to sort of be done when the

[27:36] people are hired to do the work? Oh, I

[27:39] mean I think as long as we're working

[27:42] kind of,

[27:43] you know, following this guide, I think

[27:46] we could do,

[27:47] >> you know, whatever.

[27:49] >> Yep.

[27:50] >> What kind of work is involved in the

[27:54] remaining the raspberries? Like I know

[27:56] you looked at them. Is it like they have

[27:58] been totally neglected or do they just

[28:00] need to get mowed down or bend or

[28:05] >> you know there's oak probably that oak

[28:09] trees a few of them that big around

[28:11] growing up through it.

[28:12] >> Okay.

[28:13] >> I think they I don't know if they've

[28:14] been mowed. I don't know if they get

[28:16] mowed in the fall

[28:17] >> or if

[28:20] I don't know. I when I saw them it would

[28:23] they were it was

[28:24] >> well they they could have raspberries on

[28:26] them then they you can treat a primacine

[28:28] like a floropane right and prune it and

[28:31] you want some help in pruning that

[28:34] a little experience.

[28:36] >> Yeah. Yeah. No, we I would like to

[28:38] renovate it. Everything over there looks

[28:40] like it needs fertilizer in a bad way

[28:42] and the raspberries that they keep are

[28:44] way too dense.

[28:46] >> Okay.

[28:48] >> It needs to be rotatilled. I think the

[28:50] trellis needs work. Um, they felt like

[28:54] Chrissy said that they thought it was

[28:56] very productive. It didn't look like it

[28:58] could possibly be very productive to me.

[29:02] >> Well, with a lot of canes, it could have

[29:04] a lot of berries on it, but

[29:05] >> might not be very efficient at size.

[29:08] Yeah.

[29:09] >> Remedies if you want to set up a

[29:13] >> a thing that remedy it. That'll be part of our work I think

[29:18] there in the spring.

[29:19] >> Okay.

[29:19] >> And it will go right through it.

[29:21] >> Um I almost think it might be worth

[29:23] starting a second row

[29:26] >> and when it's productive

[29:28] >> then get rid of the old one.

[29:30] >> Yeah.

[29:30] >> I I would suggest that as well.

[29:33] >> Yeah.

[29:36] >> No. How many raspberry plants would be

[29:39] thinking of planting? How how long a

[29:41] row?

[29:41] >> I think it's a 50ft row.

[29:43] >> 25 plants. Yeah, that's easy. But, you

[29:47] know, you could um you could pot those

[29:51] up in the classroom

[29:53] and then plant them out there

[29:56] >> as a so that they have some activity

[30:02] them watching them start.

[30:06] >> I'd say sometime

[30:09] into May, 1 of June. So, you don't want

[30:12] to too do you don't want to have have

[30:13] them too leggy, but

[30:15] >> right,

[30:16] >> you just want to have them established.

[30:18] Then you dig a hole or or the pot and

[30:24] >> Yeah.

[30:24] Maybe they can get them in the

[30:26] ground before they leave for the summer.

[30:28] Yeah. Right.

[30:29] >> Yeah. Start them at the end of the year

[30:30] and then

[30:31] >> come back in the fall.

[30:32] and they're

[30:34] they've grown.

[30:35] >> Yeah.

[30:35] >> You know that.

[30:36] >> Is there water there for someone?

[30:38] There's actually really a pretty

[30:40] convenient water source there.

[30:41] >> Okay. Was it a water?

[30:44] >> Well, I was just thinking that um their

[30:46] head maintainer um I have to chat with

[30:49] him next week. Um he's he's been really

[30:52] supportive and I I think that this is

[30:54] something that he would he would help in

[30:56] that way.

[30:57] >> Oh, very plans.

[31:00] So, yeah. Yeah. beginning. We could uh

[31:04] say I know I got a ton of tea tape.

[31:08] We could we could put a roll of trickle

[31:10] right there.

[31:10] >> Yeah, that work.

[31:11] >> Throw a pressure reducer in there. Put a

[31:14] network of trickle.

[31:15] >> You can just check on it basically.

[31:17] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[31:18] >> We can have um I have a little bit of of

[31:22] money set aside for irrigation.

[31:24] >> Okay.

[31:24] >> So, if we get something

[31:28] >> Okay.

[31:29] >> We can put it out there.

[31:30] >> Okay. Well, I mean, it seems like ideas

[31:32] are kind of flowing. So, uh um is there a you said you're going to have

[31:39] a planning meeting?

[31:42] >> Yeah, I mean that we're just we thought

[31:44] we could set a date for um like like I

[31:48] said like a community work day and then

[31:50] we can do all the planning until then of

[31:52] what we need and and the different jobs

[31:54] for folks.

[31:56] >> Um yeah, but we'll meet more planning

[31:59] meetings.

[32:00] >> Okay. what exactly we're going to do.

[32:02] >> Okay. I mean, I I I don't see why we

[32:05] couldn't I don't think it would be, you

[32:07] know, I wouldn't want to say we could do

[32:10] eight 4x8 beds and promise Mike's going

[32:15] to bring all the material needed to fill

[32:17] it. That That's all order.

[32:19] >> Yeah. I know.

[32:20] >> But, you know, we could maybe there's

[32:23] some money to buy half of it or some of

[32:26] it could be some used toing soil from me. made some parent material to

[32:31] work with. But, you know, if

[32:32] >> Yeah, we could probably do like 80

[32:33] yards. That's not

[32:35] >> between like Yeah, it's

[32:37] >> between the the all the Okay.

[32:39] >> Yeah, we'll make it work.

[32:41] >> All right. All right.

[32:42] >> Why don't I get you like a firm budget

[32:45] of what we can we can work with too and

[32:47] then that'll

[32:49] know what we got.

[32:50] >> Yeah. All right.

[32:52] >> Um and then we can kind of plot out how

[32:56] we're going to do this.

[32:57] >> Okay.

[32:59] All right, good. What if if you got me

[33:02] that info and we kind of pulled some

[33:04] ideas and kind of came up with uh maybe

[33:07] a proposal that we could give to you.

[33:10] >> Sure.

[33:10] >> Okay. Or, you know, February or March or

[33:13] something like that.

[33:14] >> This is where she might be here, too.

[33:16] She can be like she she's got ideas,

[33:19] too.

[33:20] >> Yeah. And I don't want to put too much

[33:22] on yellow either. So, we're

[33:24] >> we're we're in it. We can be part of

[33:26] that meeting.

[33:27] >> Okay. Well, but why don't you, me and

[33:30] Megan talk and then we'll just put a day

[33:32] together to think about it.

[33:33] >> That sounds good.

[33:34] >> So, is it the four frontier towns that

[33:37] are having gardens?

[33:39] >> Yeah.

[33:40] >> Okay.

[33:40] >> And um Frontier Regional, too.

[33:44] >> Four schools, elementary and then Yeah.

[33:46] Wow. All schools.

[33:47] >> We're trying.

[33:48] >> That's awesome.

[33:50] >> Have any of the other schools had guards

[33:52] before or

[33:54] >> Sure. Um, you know, I think the I think

[33:59] there's a statistic on school gardens

[34:01] that in the past they often cycle in

[34:03] like three years um because they often

[34:06] have like a champion or a couple people

[34:08] in the community are like we need to do

[34:09] this and then it happens and then it

[34:11] kind of

[34:13] >> tears out. So what we're trying to do is

[34:16] set up gardens in a way that can be more

[34:19] sustainable

[34:20] >> um is so cool.

[34:22] >> Right. I think Conway had I donated

[34:25] something last year for Conway, so they

[34:27] had a good Yeah.

[34:28] >> Yeah, we're working on that one. That's

[34:29] going to be a big garden there.

[34:31] >> Yeah, that's what I the impression I

[34:33] got.

[34:33] >> Yeah. Yeah, that's a big project. So,

[34:36] yeah, it's exciting.

[34:39] >> Um there was something else I wanted to

[34:41] run past. Um Frontier Regional is doing

[34:45] a career fair March 25th.

[34:49] Um, and we were wondering if if anyone

[34:52] knows of um, farms who hire,

[34:58] you know, seniors who have recently

[35:00] graduated. We're looking to have some

[35:02] folks come and be available for students

[35:05] to talk to about employment

[35:06] opportunities.

[35:08] So, I don't know if anyone has ideas

[35:10] about that. like full of leaves.

[35:14] >> I wish I would have one or two for like

[35:18] a summer job.

[35:19] >> Yeah,

[35:20] >> it seems like

[35:21] >> um

[35:22] >> the truth.

[35:24] >> Should be doing more of that. I always

[35:26] have

[35:27] >> help kind of on call. It's nice to have

[35:30] like somebody who's just kind of like if

[35:32] you need them, you know, a few hours to

[35:34] do during the week.

[35:35] >> Yeah.

[35:36] >> Can provide something to do.

[35:39] >> Find me a

[35:40] And it's Scott Farm.

[35:49] » Yeah,

[35:50] >> I'll just say I can definitely have be

[35:53] on the list for them.

[35:54] >> Okay.

[35:56] >> So, were you looking for a list of farms

[35:59] that might be looking to Okay.

[36:02] >> Well, I think that that's

[36:05] like that's one piece of it. And then if

[36:08] there's a farm that's like we're

[36:10] recruiting

[36:11] >> students then you could actually come to

[36:13] the career fair

[36:15] >> and talk to students and it could even

[36:16] be like you know just talking about

[36:20] agriculture as a career path.

[36:22] >> Um we're going to have GCC Tony Briber

[36:25] from GCC come and talk about their

[36:28] program there. Great.

[36:29] >> Um but this would be more of a like

[36:31] directly into the field kind of um kind

[36:36] of opportunity or guidance on that.

[36:39] >> So the whole thing is there's so many

[36:42] career path I mean this is this plant

[36:43] breeding pathology

[36:46] >> aronomy um which you can go to school

[36:50] for

[36:50] >> right

[36:51] >> not necessarily out there digging up the

[36:53] weeds you know

[36:54] >> I guess

[36:56] >> aren't built for that anymore.

[36:58] >> Well we need to get them back

[37:01] to

[37:01] >> get them back to you. Uh, okay. If I

[37:04] ever break their arms,

[37:05] >> tobacco for a summer

[37:08] options, you know, like like I think

[37:10] some kids like the path that they're on

[37:13] is are those are those, you know, um,

[37:16] sciences and and a four-year degree. And

[37:19] then for some kids,

[37:21] >> they need something right away um to get into. So, we're just hoping to

[37:27] provide something for everyone.

[37:30] I I don't know anybody who hires high

[37:32] school kids anymore. I

[37:34] >> hired a high school kid last summer.

[37:37] >> How did it work out?

[37:38] >> It was pretty good. He's great. I won't

[37:41] bad mouth him here.

[37:44] >> Being recorded.

[37:49] » But that said, I mean like yeah, I do

[37:51] like meeting cruise, you know, part-time

[37:53] meeting cruise. I won't be here on the

[37:55] 25th, but uh

[37:58] don't worry.

[37:58] >> I'm just trying to think how could we,

[38:01] you know, do we have how functional is

[38:04] our like email out to all the farms in

[38:07] town list?

[38:08] >> I mean, it's current as of last year.

[38:10] So, I don't think there's many new farms

[38:12] that have come to town,

[38:14] >> right,

[38:14] >> last six months. I mean, I'm just

[38:16] wondering if we should just put that

[38:19] >> just

[38:20] >> put that out there and if anyone, you

[38:22] know, we could if maybe do you want to

[38:24] just get

[38:25] >> the contact info and then just we send

[38:28] one out for the adcom email.

[38:31] >> That would be amazing.

[38:32] >> And then just, you know, let us know and

[38:33] you we can get you on a list for

[38:36] >> I don't know how to word it exactly, but

[38:38] >> yeah. Um, I could I could just draft

[38:41] something and then

[38:43] >> I could

[38:46] send it to that from um email.

[38:49] >> Yeah.

[38:49] >> Okay.

[38:50] >> You see that, right?

[38:51] >> Mhm.

[38:52] >> Okay.

[38:53] >> You don't have your own, do you?

[38:54] >> No.

[38:55] >> Okay. Okay.

[38:57] >> Do you know Penny and Dan Simmerski?

[38:59] They're in Sunderland, but that's what I

[39:01] picked asparagus for, you know, really.

[39:03] >> Yeah. And they do weeding as well, but

[39:05] my focus was asparagus.

[39:09] Yeah, but they have primarily a Vietnam

[39:12] crew or something. I think they

[39:13] >> do. They now

[39:14] >> they have

[39:15] >> I mean it's changed since I was in high

[39:16] school. I didn't know if they're still

[39:17] doing high schoolers.

[39:19] >> Yeah,

[39:20] I I think that's what they're using now

[39:23] for their harvest because their harvest

[39:26] starts May.

[39:27] >> Yeah, the kids are still

[39:29] >> Yeah, they were the weekend for

[39:30] >> and like Hadley, they don't give the day

[39:32] off for the kids anymore

[39:35] or something to go pick asparagus.

[39:38] Well, John Lasel hires a lot of young

[39:41] kids for like summer Dalia season. I

[39:45] mean, he, you know, maybe throughout the

[39:48] season, too, but

[39:53] » I know his phone number off the top of

[39:54] my head.

[39:55] >> I think it was him

[39:58] >> back from the days when we all remember

[40:00] phone numbers.

[40:01] >> Yep. Yeah.

[40:03] Um, right. That is right. So he would,

[40:06] you know, I don't know if he's looking

[40:08] for more people for next year, but it'd

[40:10] be in the list. So

[40:13] >> be a good resource for for career days

[40:17] just to have a list of farms where you

[40:19] could even if it's

[40:20] >> might even come set up a table. Yeah.

[40:22] You never know.

[40:23] >> It's just part-time work for the summer

[40:25] after high school.

[40:26] >> Right. Right.

[40:27] >> You need to do something and learn to do

[40:30] something. Some of them don't even know

[40:31] how to push a broom. So

[40:35] It's crazy.

[40:37] >> Thank you. Thanks for drafting that up.

[40:39] Maybe you send that tag, email, get

[40:41] it'll see all the farmers and then just

[40:44] put your like contact info and help

[40:47] folks reach out for us to Great.

[40:53] » That was

[40:55] those are the things.

[40:56] >> Okay.

[40:57] >> We also applied we applied for another

[40:59] grant um that would keep us working for

[41:02] another two years. Okay,

[41:03] >> we will see.

[41:08] » What's the source of the

[41:10] >> USDA?

[41:11] >> Okay,

[41:12] >> but it's a specific farm to school

[41:14] brand. It's, you know,

[41:17] >> think we're in a good position for it,

[41:19] but you know,

[41:21] >> never know. Yeah.

[41:23] >> Great.

[41:24] >> All right. Well, thanks for coming in.

[41:27] >> Thank you.

[41:28] >> You still have more. We do business.

[41:31] >> Yep. We got a few more things.

[41:33] >> Okay.

[41:34] >> You're welcome to stick around.

[41:38] >> Okay.

[41:40] >> Nothing terribly exciting. You're not

[41:42] really

[41:43] >> catching later.

[41:45] >> Okay. There you go. I repeat those

[41:48] things.

[41:57] » Thank you.

[42:00] Um,

[42:01] >> what's your last name?

[42:03] >> We'll find out.

[42:05] Should we jump for the admin or do you

[42:07] want to do farm stand?

[42:09] >> Um, let's do admin. Um, yes. So, Tori is leaving and a woman named Katherine

[42:16] has been hired and I think is probably

[42:19] being hired in the room next door

[42:21] officially right now and can start

[42:24] working at the time of the next meeting.

[42:27] I I did I have not met Katherine. I was

[42:30] unable to attend the interview. So um uh

[42:35] so and so I wanted to talk about any

[42:38] transition needs. Inventory's been kind

[42:41] enough to keep coming month after month. The municipal hiring

[42:47] process has been fast.

[42:50] So, um, and one thing that Tori did was

[42:54] this folding pamphlet with all the farms

[42:58] that wanted to be listed on town that

[43:00] was distributed, you know, at Gongkins

[43:02] in the library holding all those.

[43:04] >> Yeah.

[43:04] >> You know, well, a lot of them as well

[43:11] at time, but um, so, you know, that's

[43:14] one thing. I don't know

[43:18] if Catherine is someone who's going to

[43:21] want to jump right into kind of managing

[43:24] that because it's it's I think how I

[43:27] mean we kind of need to keep the

[43:29] information a little bit updated I

[43:31] guess. So it would be smart.

[43:33] >> I was going to double whammy it when I

[43:35] blast everybody about to say, "Hey, also

[43:37] if your information was changed, let us

[43:39] know. We're putting together the farm

[43:41] pamphlet and then

[43:42] >> and maybe even attach the damp."

[43:44] >> Yeah. and be like, "If you want any

[43:45] changes,

[43:47] >> I want to include new work."

[43:48] >> Okay. All right. So, right there, that's the first key step

[43:53] >> and um we'll just tune Catherine into

[43:55] that process. I was just thinking maybe

[43:58] a couple of us could kind of with

[44:00] Catherine at some point kind of review

[44:02] all the farms in town. We could just do

[44:04] it at a meeting,

[44:05] >> I guess. And um

[44:07] >> we can do a side meeting too with her so

[44:09] she's familiar.

[44:10] >> Okay. Okay. All right. So maybe it just

[44:14] seems like we'll keep talking about that

[44:16] and what needs to happen. But

[44:19] >> yeah, does anyone here know how to use

[44:20] Canva?

[44:22] >> Design software completely free. All you

[44:25] have to do is typically tap type right

[44:28] in. It's already a template

[44:29] >> and trainable.

[44:31] >> Okay. Because I guess that would be the

[44:32] only thing. But if she's in college, she

[44:34] knows how to use it. So

[44:36] >> Okay. All right. Well, I guess we'll

[44:38] meet Catherine. You'll meet Catherine.

[44:40] >> Yeah. I don't know, but you're excited

[44:43] to be

[44:44] >> Is she local or

[44:45] >> I don't even know. I I I'm

[44:47] >> I mean it was

[44:48] >> we know nothing about this. I meant like

[44:50] >> absolutely nothing. But my understanding

[44:53] is that they were ex very experienced

[44:56] and may even have been an admin admin

[44:59] assistant at for some other municipality

[45:03] or in some way. But uh yeah, no, I had a

[45:08] truckload of produce and a driver tap

[45:11] out at 3:18 in the morning, I think it

[45:13] was.

[45:16] >> I spent the day in Connecticut and

[45:18] that's us. But um so yeah, this will be new. I traded emails. We

[45:24] seem, you know, ready to go. So

[45:29] um so we will meet uh Katherine next

[45:31] week, next month rather. Um, and I guess

[45:34] that sort of, you know, covers the

[45:36] pamphlet enough. We'll just uh manage

[45:39] that as it goes. Um, so we are going to

[45:43] change our meeting date. I think we all

[45:46] talked about that, but Mondays was kind

[45:48] of the consensus.

[45:54] » Monday, that would be February.

[45:58] Uh, first is a Sunday. That means the

[46:02] 8th is a Sunday. 9th 10th. Is that

[46:05] right? February the 10th.

[46:06] >> 9th.

[46:07] February 9th.

[46:09] >> Right.

[46:09] >> Oh, yeah. Monday.

[46:10] >> Monday.

[46:11] Right. Okay.

[46:12] >> February.

[46:15] >> Same time.

[46:16] >> Yeah.

[46:17] Um,

[46:20] can you pull up the Weightley pound

[46:23] meeting calendar and just see if like

[46:28] the second Monday of the month has got

[46:30] like if the building is already packed

[46:33] out. That's the my only concern is that

[46:35] we'll just be like that's the Tuesday.

[46:39] >> Yeah. Oh, no. The the Monday rather.

[46:43] Um,

[46:44] >> I can only see right now once we stop

[46:46] the meeting, I can check the other town.

[46:49] I can see the town of Wley doesn't have

[46:51] because there's two accounts. I can't

[46:53] see one of them.

[46:54] >> Okay.

[46:55] >> Cuz I don't want to lose this meeting.

[46:57] >> My only concern is that the building

[46:59] will be full and we'll have to uh pick another another

[47:06] Monday, you know, the first or third or

[47:09] something like that. But let let's um

[47:12] Let me let me work on that. Let me just

[47:14] confirm the second

[47:16] um second Monday in February

[47:21] are there will be meeting space

[47:24] available for us. But other than that,

[47:26] so let's just plan ahead.

[47:28] >> Sounds good.

[47:30] And then the last thing we were going to

[47:32] talk about here, I I want to, you know,

[47:34] this this group occasionally gets asked

[47:37] for an opinion about

[47:42] rules as they apply to farms in town,

[47:45] how farms inter interface with the rest

[47:47] of the town government and the town. And

[47:51] so I thought it would be kind of smart

[47:52] to sort of look at things like what what

[47:56] let's let's you know we all kind of

[47:58] think we know what the right to farm

[48:00] bylaw is but let's really look at it.

[48:02] Let's read it, you know, and I think

[48:04] that's going to happen, you know, with

[48:06] as we kind of explore the the sign that

[48:09] we're going to have made that Dave's

[48:10] made. Um, and there are, you know,

[48:14] zoning rules for retail farms that kind

[48:18] of interrupt the normal zoning rules in

[48:22] town. And I think everybody knows a

[48:25] little bit about it and Mike is on the

[48:27] plan the uh planning board and so has a

[48:30] front row seat for for any conversations

[48:33] about that kind of thing. So, what do

[48:35] you what do you know about it? Um, so

[48:37] there's been no formal complaining, but

[48:41] there's been rumblings

[48:44] >> um of the former 5J Creamy, which is now

[48:48] Simmers, that basically since they've

[48:51] opened, every year they have continued

[48:54] to scale down to where now they have no

[48:57] produce. It's just food. Um

[49:01] it's a it's not a gray area, but it's um

[49:06] can be a little confusing

[49:09] because they are technically a farm

[49:11] stand, which gives you a lot of leeway.

[49:16] Um,

[49:18] but you can't, you know, sell furniture,

[49:20] you know,

[49:21] >> and you're supposed to be selling your

[49:23] products, but no one, the rules have

[49:25] never stated

[49:27] >> that you you can only sell what you grow

[49:30] cuz that's not reasonable.

[49:31] >> Um, you know, like if a farmer grows

[49:34] whatever sweet corn and tomatoes, he's

[49:36] gonna buy peppers from his neighbor,

[49:38] etc., etc. Yeah. Um, so I think

[49:43] apparently they have been u Brand was

[49:46] going to send me a letter that was sent

[49:48] to Dimmerskis about this a year or so

[49:52] before I was on the planning work. So a

[49:54] year or so ago um

[49:56] >> and it was sent by the way planning

[49:58] >> I believe so. Yeah. I didn't get the

[50:00] email so I'm not totally positive. Um

[50:04] but again there's been no formal

[50:06] complaint.

[50:08] the planning board does have some

[50:11] obligation to look out for these things

[50:13] in town. Um,

[50:16] >> yeah,

[50:17] >> my quick opinion on it is that if they

[50:21] showed any sign of just making an

[50:24] attempt, it would probably just go away.

[50:26] >> Um, I don't think anyone wants to see

[50:28] them get forced out or anything like

[50:30] that. It's more of, you know, like when

[50:32] Jam first started there were pumpkins

[50:35] and mums and, you know,

[50:36] >> pick your own strawberries,

[50:38] >> right? So, even if 90% of what they were

[50:41] doing was selling hamburgers and hot

[50:43] dogs, they put on a good show. And I

[50:45] think that's

[50:46] >> Yeah. I mean, they turned a lot of edge

[50:48] through there, too.

[50:49] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[50:50] >> So,

[50:52] um, that's kind of where it stands now.

[50:55] Um,

[50:57] I think the planning board is kind of

[50:59] looking for the egg um

[51:02] to advise, which is what we're kind of

[51:04] here for, right?

[51:05] >> Yeah.

[51:05] >> To not just advise the selectman, but to

[51:08] advise any other board in town.

[51:10] >> Yeah. Right. Right. Um,

[51:14] do you know if the weight bylaws that

[51:17] allow so basically farm stands if you're

[51:20] selling your own stuff, farm stands can

[51:22] kind of work out of a residential area.

[51:25] >> Correct.

[51:26] >> That's sort of

[51:27] >> a res I think it's zoned a residential,

[51:29] right?

[51:30] >> Yeah. A redstone. So,

[51:33] um, and then it the lines get a little

[51:36] cloudy around how much of the stuff is

[51:39] your home, too, right?

[51:41] >> Yeah. I think it's supposed to be the

[51:43] primary

[51:45] some type of wording

[51:47] >> 50%.

[51:48] >> Yeah.

[51:48] >> My my understanding was that it was like

[51:51] it had to be half.

[51:52] >> I don't know if And then it was like,

[51:54] well, half in dollars, half in volume. I

[51:57] think you kind of have to just

[51:58] >> I don't think it's I don't think it's

[52:00] anything anyone is really trying to like

[52:03] No one's going to go in there and

[52:06] nail that number right now, you know?

[52:08] So, I think it's

[52:10] >> Yeah.

[52:11] >> It was a it's it's a loose

[52:15] loosely enforced term, you know. I don't

[52:18] really know how else to describe it.

[52:19] >> Yeah. Right. Right. It's um

[52:23] self uh self enforcing or something. So,

[52:27] >> right. So, just regulating.

[52:29] >> Yeah. Self-regulating self, you know,

[52:31] just it's not in the honor system, but

[52:34] it's it's just

[52:37] >> Yeah. I think if you're selling

[52:39] vegetables and you're a farm, I mean,

[52:40] you're or you're selling milk and you

[52:42] milk cows, I mean, if you put two and

[52:44] two together, it's pretty simple.

[52:46] >> Yeah. I mean, you know what I was kind

[52:48] of thinking about it is like I think

[52:50] maybe when some of these rules were

[52:52] created these these exceptions to let

[52:55] you know things were kind of a little

[52:57] bit different. It's not like this

[53:00] >> family grows plenty of

[53:03] >> vegetables. It's just not there

[53:06] >> and it's not stuff that would lend

[53:07] itself to be sold

[53:09] >> to retail farms. Correct. You know%

[53:12] >> um so it is a farm family. They're

[53:14] selling mostly ice cream which is a farm

[53:18] product, right? I mean,

[53:19] >> you know, they don't have milk built the

[53:21] cows themselves. But

[53:23] >> yeah,

[53:23] >> you know, I mean, it it's not like,

[53:28] you know, someone who wasn't farming

[53:30] opened an ice cream place, right,

[53:32] >> and

[53:34] was going to have sell vegetables that

[53:36] they bought from area farms and then

[53:37] kind of never did that part and really

[53:39] only just had the ice cream place. This

[53:41] is a family that grows 800 acres of of

[53:45] Yeah. Yeah.

[53:46] >> And um

[53:47] >> but it's basically the problem with it

[53:50] is that they're basically running a

[53:51] restaurant saying it's a farm stand.

[53:53] >> That's the problem.

[53:55] >> And and then Well, that's actually not

[53:57] the problem. The problem is that they're

[53:58] in a they're doing this in a place

[54:00] that's owned properly for that. If it

[54:03] was commercial, no problem.

[54:05] >> Well, they have a sign out there

[54:07] advertising Barnes,

[54:09] >> right?

[54:10] if I should bring in back

[54:13] >> and I think some of the other issues and

[54:16] I don't have this is again just an

[54:19] opinion. It seems to me that when 5J

[54:24] Creamy opened there

[54:27] no one really seems to know whether that

[54:29] was even done legally or you know what I

[54:31] mean? I think it was kind of just done

[54:34] and forgiveness was asked after. So is

[54:36] there something grandfathered in? is

[54:38] there and there's no none of that is

[54:41] spelled right out

[54:42] >> in plain English for us to know you know

[54:45] and then simmers buying something it's

[54:48] not like they started it so that adds to

[54:51] the confusion

[54:53] >> um and I think what the planning board

[54:55] is kind of asking from us is should the

[54:59] regulation be changed should it you know

[55:02] >> well that yeah right that's kind of a

[55:07] funny one would be, you know,

[55:10] >> what is what is at stake like them

[55:12] paying more for the taxes of the land

[55:15] that it's on?

[55:16] >> No, they would. So, I mean, if they're basically in violation, they

[55:19] would be shut they would be ordered to

[55:21] shut down

[55:21] >> shut down because it is specific zone is

[55:25] not for

[55:26] >> because they're not selling any good.

[55:29] >> Or could they be uh could the land be

[55:33] >> commercial for them? Because I think a

[55:34] lot of people would miss that place in

[55:37] town.

[55:38] >> 100%. Yeah. I That's why I think like if

[55:41] they just make an attempt, it's just the

[55:44] problem's just going to wash out.

[55:45] >> Yeah. Going to go away. But, you know,

[55:47] they have a spot right next to where the

[55:49] ice cream window is that was set up. You

[55:52] know, when it first became simmers,

[55:55] young Teddy was selling vegetables

[55:57] there. There was stuff in there,

[55:59] >> right?

[55:59] >> And so, I think that just

[56:01] >> does someone talk to them about this?

[56:03] Yes, they've been

[56:05] Yeah. and said that, you know, it was

[56:06] going to get remedied and

[56:08] >> so,

[56:09] >> but you also can't just snap your, you

[56:11] know, Sure.

[56:12] >> You know, maybe this spring all of a

[56:14] sudden there's going to be a whole bunch

[56:15] of stuff there that just needed to get

[56:17] organized. I have no idea.

[56:19] >> Um, but

[56:20] >> cuz Teddy has over his stand and

[56:22] suddenly he's got the the flowers and

[56:24] >> Yep.

[56:25] >> and all that.

[56:26] >> Yep. Exactly.

[56:27] >> Right.

[56:29] >> They want to do it. It could be done.

[56:31] >> Yeah. would and even if it's just a

[56:33] quarter of what he's doing over there,

[56:35] you could

[56:37] >> like his farm stand over there is a

[56:39] perfect example of what is supposed to

[56:42] be going on.

[56:43] >> You know, he sells ice cream and he

[56:45] sells Polish food, but he sells flowers

[56:47] and all kinds of vegetables there.

[56:50] >> Yeah. Exactly. Yep.

[56:52] >> Right. Right. Right.

[56:52] >> Yeah.

[56:53] Yeah. I mean, I think when they

[56:54] kind of made the exception, the the

[56:57] image was all these small farm families

[57:01] would sell

[57:03] whatever they grew on the side of the

[57:05] road. You know, it was like there used

[57:06] to be signs of, you know, Lennox had

[57:08] beets, you know, myis had potatoes, you

[57:10] know,

[57:12] >> like uh, you know, John John or uh Yeah.

[57:15] John Bashesky's doing. He put up

[57:17] >> the roadside. Yeah.

[57:18] >> You know,

[57:19] >> the Home Depot shed and fill the corner.

[57:21] >> Exactly. He's called it.

[57:22] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

[57:24] >> that's exactly right. And that that's

[57:26] was the intention of the I think the

[57:28] that was the vision when

[57:30] >> right

[57:31] >> of how what it would look like, you

[57:33] know, but agriculture has changed. There

[57:35] aren't as many farms, people specialize

[57:38] and

[57:39] >> y

[57:40] >> um I've also seen an increase in

[57:42] non-farmers

[57:44] opening farm stands and buying in

[57:47] everything. Okay. You provide stuff to a

[57:50] lot of different farm stands that are

[57:52] non-farmers that are just buying

[57:53] everything in just to resell. I just not

[57:56] in weight, but I'm curious how their

[57:59] zoning deals with that. You know,

[58:02] technically they're a farm stand, but

[58:04] they don't grow any of it themselves.

[58:07] So, they're more like a gross grosser or

[58:12] you know, I don't know. I don't know how

[58:14] they retail store.

[58:15] >> Yeah.

[58:17] I know that's for a different

[58:19] conversation, but it's interesting.

[58:21] >> Yeah. Right.

[58:22] >> We need it.

[58:25] >> I think for the moment send them kind of

[58:28] a reminder that yet the new year is

[58:31] coming and what what are what are your

[58:34] plans or or being or concerned about

[58:37] this

[58:39] >> or I'm think notified in writing. I

[58:42] think it's a good idea.

[58:43] >> I think the planning board has

[58:44] communicated though.

[58:46] >> Yeah. I I believe let me just look at

[58:48] Mike.

[58:49] >> I think all I wanted Mike to discuss

[58:52] this only so that we were aware of the

[58:57] issue

[58:58] >> I guess and to kind of get our minds

[59:00] around what the rules are.

[59:04] Um

[59:05] I think what has happened is that the

[59:08] nature of farms and agriculture has

[59:11] changed since some of these exceptions

[59:14] were made. And I think they're, you

[59:16] know, this is a farming family.

[59:20] Yeah. They should they should put on a

[59:22] retail show there. Um

[59:25] and uh make sure they take a lot of

[59:27] pictures.

[59:28] Yeah. So they were uh they were

[59:33] given a letter in the 4th of January

[59:36] 2024 from the plan from the Wavely

[59:39] Planning Board basically saying kind of

[59:42] reviewing the rules. I do have it here.

[59:45] And it's 20. They have to grow 25% of

[59:47] what they sell and then 50% of the

[59:49] remaining has to come from Massachusetts

[59:51] farms. Again, I think it's a pretty

[59:53] loose like no one's going to check any

[59:56] of this. It's more of

[59:58] >> Yeah.

[59:59] >> You know,

[59:59] >> it's more of the display really.

[1:00:01] >> Yeah.

[1:00:01] I mean, yeah. You're making an

[1:00:03] attempt to Yeah. You could argue like

[1:00:06] you said, Doug, like it's ice cream, you

[1:00:08] know, it's hamburgers, I grow beef, it's

[1:00:10] hot dog, you know, everything comes from

[1:00:12] somewhere. But again, that was not like

[1:00:14] the vision.

[1:00:15] >> Yeah.

[1:00:15] >> Of the

[1:00:16] >> some of it too is the watering down of

[1:00:19] like what is a farm stand, you know? Is

[1:00:21] a farm stand just hamburgers and hot

[1:00:24] dogs or is it produce that's grown in

[1:00:27] the local area? You know, I mean

[1:00:30] >> I mean in a way that road

[1:00:33] I mean does weight need another retail

[1:00:36] farm? Sure. Yeah. There's lots.

[1:00:39] >> Yeah. It's just it's kind of like

[1:00:41] >> the other ones around are probably glad

[1:00:42] that they're you know people come for

[1:00:45] the ocean come somewhere else for the

[1:00:47] sweet corn on the way home you know um

[1:00:51] >> you know that's that's the other part of

[1:00:52] it it's not you know it's not Lunenburg

[1:00:56] or you know it's not Malboro where

[1:00:59] there's 40,000 people

[1:01:00] >> right yeah

[1:01:02] >> right

[1:01:03] >> so it would be a shame to lose that if

[1:01:05] it was just a zoning issue

[1:01:08] I think a lot of people to utilize that

[1:01:11] ice cream stand.

[1:01:13] >> Yeah. And I think that the idea is to to

[1:01:15] not have that happen like

[1:01:17] >> right nobody wants

[1:01:18] >> right everybody wants it to exist. It

[1:01:21] has to just exist within the framework

[1:01:23] and the rules that are out there. And

[1:01:27] >> um so we have a planning board meeting

[1:01:29] at the end of this month. We haven't

[1:01:31] discussed this a lot because we've been

[1:01:33] dealing with the best and everything um

[1:01:37] the battery storage stuff. So we are

[1:01:39] going to discuss it. That's the plan.

[1:01:41] >> Mhm.

[1:01:41] >> Um and then Brandt may want to present

[1:01:45] something to the adcom on our next

[1:01:47] meeting next month.

[1:01:49] >> Um with kind of, you know, what does

[1:01:52] what do what does the planning board

[1:01:54] actually want from a comp?

[1:01:57] >> Yeah.

[1:01:57] >> You know,

[1:01:58] >> are they ready for us to actually answer

[1:02:01] particular questions?

[1:02:02] >> Right. So, I brought it up tonight so

[1:02:04] that everybody can kind of just ponder

[1:02:06] on it and

[1:02:08] >> um and this is a good example of what

[1:02:11] the acom does in town. You know, we may

[1:02:15] be able to steer, you know, u the the

[1:02:20] planning board to accommodate farm

[1:02:23] stands with different language,

[1:02:26] >> you know, and participating in that is why it's good to have an agar.

[1:02:31] >> Great. So

[1:02:32] >> yeah. So hopefully next meeting we will

[1:02:34] have like I'll be able to come in with

[1:02:37] something printed out of the exact part

[1:02:39] of the bylaw that we need to be

[1:02:41] concerned with because as you can

[1:02:43] imagine it's written in

[1:02:45] >> practical gibberish.

[1:02:49] » Yeah. We need to like pull out what what

[1:02:51] actually matters to what we're talking

[1:02:53] about. That's

[1:02:54] >> Yeah.

[1:02:55] >> Then I'm not I haven't been doing this

[1:02:56] long enough to

[1:02:59] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very curious as to

[1:03:02] when whenever the whatever the language

[1:03:04] is, whenever it was adopted,

[1:03:06] >> you know, how how far back are we

[1:03:08] talking?

[1:03:09] >> Yeah.

[1:03:10] um

[1:03:12] >> who's the enforcer of say they didn't

[1:03:15] make any changes and they just kind of

[1:03:17] kept on doing what they're doing and

[1:03:19] >> so if their full complaint

[1:03:21] >> if a um like anyone could make a formal

[1:03:25] complaint

[1:03:26] >> anyone in town

[1:03:26] >> the the building inspector would then

[1:03:30] >> go and shut them down basically I see

[1:03:33] >> make it official

[1:03:34] >> y

[1:03:35] >> okay

[1:03:38] have to get permits

[1:03:39] Right. From the town and kind of why

[1:03:43] would anybody make a complaint?

[1:03:46] >> Yeah, that's there hasn't been a Well,

[1:03:48] like

[1:03:48] >> you said there's some rumbling or

[1:03:50] something.

[1:03:50] >> Yeah, there's apparently there was some

[1:03:52] I think there was a select board member

[1:03:54] or something along those lines. Someone

[1:03:56] a town official

[1:03:57] >> doesn't eat ice cream drove by and doing

[1:04:01] business.

[1:04:01] >> Yeah. Well, I just think it was more

[1:04:03] like, you know, hey, I don't see

[1:04:04] anything there anymore. Like what's

[1:04:06] going on? Well, I mean,

[1:04:08] >> and there is some like, you know, like

[1:04:09] the planning board, like you have a

[1:04:11] moral obligation to

[1:04:14] enforce the laws that you came up with.

[1:04:18] >> I think that's the way it should be.

[1:04:20] >> Right. Right.

[1:04:21] >> Right. Not ignore the elephant in the

[1:04:23] room.

[1:04:24] >> Exactly. And it's that's I think it was

[1:04:27] again like I've only been on the plane

[1:04:29] board since the summer. So, but I

[1:04:31] believe it's been tried they tried to

[1:04:33] deal with this already a couple times

[1:04:37] behind the behind closed doors or under

[1:04:39] the radar whatever and it hasn't seemed

[1:04:42] to get anywhere yet. So,

[1:04:43] >> right this in general or that specific

[1:04:45] >> this this problem.

[1:04:47] >> Yeah,

[1:04:52] » right. Yeah. Tough one.

[1:04:54] >> Yeah.

[1:04:57] >> Well, it is what it is, you know. It is.

[1:05:00] Yeah. And so

[1:05:04] they

[1:05:06] take steps to remedy it or not, right?

[1:05:09] It's that simple.

[1:05:10] >> Yeah.

[1:05:11] >> Mike, do you know if they responded to

[1:05:13] that letter at all? I don't believe they

[1:05:15] did.

[1:05:16] >> No. Well, that's

[1:05:17] >> No, I

[1:05:19] sort of thing.

[1:05:20] >> Yeah.

[1:05:21] None of them live in way.

[1:05:27] Yeah.

[1:05:31] All right. Well, I guess we should Yeah,

[1:05:34] we'll just continue the discussion next

[1:05:36] month and

[1:05:38] take it from there. Um, all right. Well,

[1:05:40] I guess unless we had anything else.

[1:05:43] >> Uh, the ethics.

[1:05:45] >> Yes.

[1:05:47] >> Was it ethics, right?

[1:05:48] >> I think it was ethics.

[1:05:50] >> Yes. So, did you all get an email?

[1:05:52] >> Yes.

[1:05:53] >> Okay. I thought I got an email because

[1:05:55] of the garden committee.

[1:05:58] >> You may have.

[1:05:59] >> Yeah.

[1:06:00] >> But my understanding is that I'm still

[1:06:02] covered under the one that I did last

[1:06:05] year.

[1:06:06] >> One of them take you have to update it

[1:06:09] every every year. It'll take you 10

[1:06:11] minutes.

[1:06:12] >> Okay. The one I keep getting email says

[1:06:14] it'll take an hour, which is fine.

[1:06:16] >> Well, that's the one you have to do

[1:06:17] every two years.

[1:06:18] >> Yeah. But is that for but does that

[1:06:20] cover me for every committee or is that

[1:06:22] I do one for each?

[1:06:24] >> It looked like the same thing.

[1:06:27] >> I think once you create your account

[1:06:31] >> if you

[1:06:33] are get on another committee and you're

[1:06:36] appointed it would it should

[1:06:37] automatically just exempt you think if

[1:06:40] you're

[1:06:40] >> updated. Mine wasn't doing

[1:06:42] >> try to get into my account and look at

[1:06:44] it.

[1:06:44] >> Yeah, I had to reset my password. Yeah,

[1:06:47] that's what I want to hear.

[1:06:50] >> I want to say I

[1:06:52] >> Oh, yeah. So, um, if you need help

[1:06:54] complying with that ethics stuff, I'm

[1:06:56] sure you'll come in.

[1:06:57] >> This is the conflict of interest.

[1:06:59] >> Yeah. Yes.

[1:07:00] >> Okay. So, I do I did get an email saying

[1:07:03] you need it. So, it must be the

[1:07:05] 10-minute one. I don't think I ever did

[1:07:06] a 10-minute one, to be honest. So,

[1:07:08] >> Well, because you can do it in like 10

[1:07:10] seconds if you

[1:07:11] >> Oh, okay.

[1:07:13] >> Yeah. Yeah, I'll try to

[1:07:15] >> I'll take you 10 minutes to read it.

[1:07:18] It'll take you 10 seconds to do it.

[1:07:21] It's all pretty straightforward.

[1:07:23] >> Yeah, I mean it's not a it might be

[1:07:26] worth 10 minutes of your time. Not a bad

[1:07:28] thing to review, but um All right. Well,

[1:07:32] I guess I'll move to ajourn. Move to

[1:07:34] adjourn. All right. At 8 or whatever it

[1:07:38] is

[1:07:38] >> 71. Perfect. Right.

[1:07:43] All right.

Whately Agricultural Commission - January 13, 2026

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