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oh yeah
[0:31]
is
[1:18]
you know
how you feel about that i don't know
[1:22]
it's up to us
where it gets moved too it's the
[1:25]
isn't it it's not city property no it's
been donated to the city by the library
[1:30]
okay
it is ours we can
[1:32]
actually put it we'd have to pour a pad
down there so there would be some cost
[1:36]
but
i think it would be much more utilized
[1:40]
in that location if you can buy right
now steve you could probably put it on
[1:44]
top where the
tanks are
[1:46]
and then we can put in their staff with
all the fills i know there's a
[1:50]
we don't fill a ton down there but
it's
[2:03]
and i don't know if there would be any
fire
[2:06]
marshall issues not not state fire
marshal
[2:10]
because i think is it ag or state police
that regulate
[2:15]
yeah somewhere between the billion and
then
[2:20]
yeah so
okay
[2:23]
with that um
so it's council good relocated
[2:28]
i mean we don't like it
it's not terribly hard to move
[2:33]
no it's a little top heavy
[2:46]
we're sure to take a section of paper
yeah it has to be on a solid
[2:53]
bolted down
yeah facing itself
[2:56]
there's not an open spot now that would
really be appropriate
[3:01]
well not on top of the gas tanks yeah
but
[3:04]
yeah it does have uh there was one
common that one of the benches is
[3:08]
missing but that's actually for a
wheelchair accessibility so there's just
[3:12]
punches on three sides
wherever you feel running the cameras or
[3:16]
behind
[3:21]
okay so um thank you guys for your time
this evening i appreciate it so i
[3:26]
contacted scott um
because over the last year and a half
[3:31]
two years
we have been working on a broadband
[3:35]
study for all of muskegon county
long ago
[3:39]
two years ago it was started the
initiative was started by mozart dick
[3:44]
they kind of said hey
[3:49]
let's put together this work group in
this committee
[3:52]
and discuss it so we did and we all
agreed yes it's a problem
[3:57]
and i said okay so we've convened all
these people who wants to take it over
[4:01]
well we took it over
um
[4:04]
so
after
[4:06]
um quite a few
meetings with our executive
[4:11]
team
for the broadband committee and then the
[4:15]
broader
team
[4:17]
we decided to put out proposals um a
request for proposals for a broadband
[4:23]
study for all of muskegon county we
received three proposals
[4:27]
back
we discussed them
[4:31]
between the larger committee and then
the executive committee
[4:35]
and came to the determination that none
of the three proposals were what
[4:39]
we saw fit nor did they meet the needs
of what we were seeking
[4:44]
um so we kind of then went back and
forth okay can we work with our
[4:48]
providers to then get their information
and sign mbas put our own gis map
[4:56]
together
and then
[4:59]
we'll do all the work and go from there
that became a problem because only one
[5:06]
provider would share their gis data with
us um so then we kind of was the same as
[5:13]
we did with the other companies
exact same outline
[5:17]
and they sent us their proposal back
what is different about this is um all
[5:25]
the other three
had
[5:27]
surveys that were attached to them so
they were going to survey residents
[5:32]
please raise your hand if you know
exactly which service you have your
[5:36]
download speed
um
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and
[5:41]
everything like that
[5:45]
okay one who would actually even fill a
two
[5:48]
who would actually fill out a survey
period if it was mailed to them
[5:54]
okay
or one two three xyz street and went
[5:57]
home michigan um
would love to sign up for service i'm
[6:02]
serious
we don't have service in your area
[6:05]
well i know they do because they're two
streets they're two doors down
[6:08]
that's what this study tells us is that
they can provide that service and then
[6:13]
how much it will take and how much it
will cost to provide that service
[6:18]
um so they'll take all of that data
parcel by personal and then they'll put
[6:22]
it on a gis map for us
and then we'll be able to take this data
[6:28]
which is what the providers and
the state federal government want
[6:34]
from us to get those dollars
to then extend broadband into
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um every single community in the county
um so
[6:46]
that's what we're looking at right now
is we're looking at fundraising for
[6:49]
this study to be done so then we can
show the return on investment not only
[6:54]
to
the communities to invest
[6:58]
not only for the providers to invest but
then letting us know what we have and
[7:04]
what our capabilities are and what we're
missing because we're certainly missing
[7:08]
quite a bit it is putting it in front of
their board for 25.
[7:12]
um
we um agree with academic development
[7:16]
we're putting in 10
and then
[7:19]
have a few other presentations
throughout
[7:22]
the community and the county for
other
[7:27]
other funders
we'll be asking every municipality
[7:33]
and we also have businesses that we're
asking as well
[7:37]
just because it becomes so important not
only for
[7:41]
remote workers but for telehealth for
virtual learning baker college is almost
[7:47]
100 percent online courses so if you
don't have access to revenue
[7:53]
um if you're somebody who
is elderly and have a doctor's
[7:59]
appointment will
don't have transportation and you can do
[8:02]
telehealth
but don't have access to internet well
[8:06]
you're kind of stuck in this situation
um so that's really what the idea is to
[8:11]
really serve the underserved
and make it so we have this
[8:16]
available in our county
and then again for talent recruitment
[8:20]
and attraction
so it's become
[8:23]
broadband has become a necessity just
like water sewer
[8:28]
electricity
um
[8:30]
if you want people coming to your
community into your county you want
[8:33]
businesses to do the same thing
and increase your tax base
[8:46]
so would this broadband be available to
like
[8:50]
all of us for a dollar amount would it
be free broadband what what's the what's
[8:54]
the end goal with this the end goal is
to get the study so we have the data to
[9:00]
bring to the providers
and to the state and federal officials
[9:05]
who are giving out
these
[9:09]
spider on state dollars
for ten thousand dollars
[9:14]
yeah so that's a good question i had the
same thing from messi to our account
[9:18]
fair or share i would say 132 000
divided by 27 wouldn't be the way to go
[9:23]
yeah so not everybody's going to give
um
[9:27]
and
[Music]
[9:29]
we understand that so
what we're doing right now is really
[9:33]
targeting the communities that are
going to benefit
[9:36]
the most
from
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the services
so
[9:42]
with
the city of whitehall and
[9:45]
the city of muskegon and
the city of northwest et cetera et
[9:49]
cetera et cetera
that's where most of the residents live
[9:53]
um
and that's
[9:56]
so that's that's the whole idea behind
it we may it may seem like you are
[10:01]
served but you're not fully served to
the capabilities and capacity that you
[10:06]
should be
um we're still going after
[10:09]
lexier creek township and
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yes sir
is the basic ask for all the communities
[10:18]
the ten thousand
yeah so all the city starting so all the
[10:22]
city for asking ten
um
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in the larger townships report and this
vegan forest
[10:30]
and then once we get down to the smaller
townships
[10:34]
were at five
or like 25 and that's if they even
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let us
present in front of
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their boards
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because we understand you know
i mean everybody has r for money
[10:53]
everybody does this everybody has that
and that's
[10:56]
that's great but they have projects that
they already have the money out
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i guess what i'm
confused about i'm not real tech savvy
[11:12]
so bear with me but
is this going to i mean the city of
[11:18]
whitehall is serviced by they're not
going to take their place on what they
[11:22]
currently have installed they're going
to take their place with fiber
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because that's what the end goal is
for fiber is what's
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i don't want to say it's new because
it's not new it's the next step
[11:36]
in the long term
um goal
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for
broadband connectivity because it's
[11:44]
higher speed
normally it's underground
[11:48]
there's much more capability and
capacity of fiber not only for business
[11:52]
not only for residential but also for
businesses
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so it can allow other providers to come
in and have a more competitive market
[12:01]
and i know that's happening in one
community
[12:04]
um right now where a fiber provider is
coming in
[12:09]
that community
and they will be
[12:12]
another option
for those individuals in that community
[12:17]
so it becomes a competitive market
rather than
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you're stuck with one provider
[12:26]
all right
thank you for that i think you've
[12:30]
given us enough to
chew on it's not the place to
[12:35]
make that decision
all right hope you guys have any
[12:39]
questions let me know
[12:42]
all right so give me
a shout out
[12:48]
thanks morgan all right thank you guys
appreciate it
[12:53]
so next uh let's let's move to the
lakefront property i know that's a
[12:59]
timely concern
yep then it'll be short
[13:03]
i think we talked about maybe having a
realtor come out there and praise it or
[13:07]
you know give us some sort of value
[13:12]
and you know depends on what the real
you know their opinions vary at least
[13:17]
here we've got some sort of assistancy
and some decent number
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because i
my fear is if we actually send these
[13:24]
letters out we're going to get bids from
100 to 500
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because whenever municipalities are
selling money
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it's only worth 10 cents on a dollar
when we're buying it we're 10 times
[13:36]
worth
value
[13:38]
so that that's my request is if i can
put a minimum 30 000 bid on it
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what did we have down here one parcel or
two
[13:47]
we have one parcel and it's point two
six acres
[13:50]
a quarter of an acre a little more than
a quarter acre is it a
[13:54]
maybe it was it was across the street
from
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two to property owners possibly
yeah
[14:01]
yeah for the most part and then we've
got proper numbers to the north and
[14:04]
south and then some that are kind of
a little bit more angle
[14:08]
i think if the
bids are where we would hope that they
[14:12]
would be
council would give strongest
[14:15]
consideration to the ones that are
immediately adjacent which is four and i
[14:18]
think there's six property owners that
have expressed an interest
[14:24]
and that's that's not anything that's
buildable right
[14:27]
um
not unless the water drops
[14:33]
yeah there's not much shoreline at all
um
[14:36]
but it would have not it would
potentially allow for a dot
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or some lawn chairs
i don't think you can build anything on
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it
i just
[14:50]
would have a problem with
selling it to somebody
[14:54]
thinking that we were selling it
you know maybe that for the people to
[15:00]
access the lake because they had the
adjacent property across the street
[15:04]
and
somebody else came along and outfit them
[15:09]
and actually
has the finances to maybe build a house
[15:12]
on still practices with uh food trucks
and would like to see our
[15:17]
regulations tighten down i think that's
uh certainly a worthy request that we
[15:22]
should maybe look at them and see if
they do at least
[15:26]
make the effort to see
are they where do we want them to be
[15:32]
i think that's a reasonable request
and then
[15:36]
i would say any of the council that has
strong opinions on that could express it
[15:41]
to scott the staff let them know
i think that's the route to go with that
[15:46]
i think from just a safety point of
looking at that i think one of the nails
[15:50]
i had would be make sure that
the uh the egress or the way to get food
[15:55]
is not out
you know what i mean
[15:58]
if they got a turn parker pose
parker posing i know it's it's the day
[16:02]
the stone will be over that's a that's a
good good problem i think some people on
[16:06]
and off the lake fisherman
[16:10]
you know what especially when you get
around the
[16:12]
eastwork housing complex down there i
mean
[16:16]
it makes sense
[16:20]
oh steph
[16:33]
they can use the path from
the trestle bridge
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down to the eagles and that keeps them
off the street that's curved
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and then once they get up
if they're going south of eagles they're
[16:48]
the streets not curved so it's not
really an issue
[16:52]
uh in that way i thought
one of the concerns that i had was
[16:58]
coming off from the trail to get down to
lake street we used to block that off
[17:02]
and i thought it was because of
the angle the curve that
[17:07]
there was concern that they would
crash into the rails that they climbed
[17:12]
the sidewalk
brian brian says that that's not an
[17:15]
issue so i
[17:28]
okay i think there's any opposition to
it we'll come back with an ordinance
[17:33]
amendment
next uh skate park uh state park i i've
[17:37]
had
numerous individuals talk to me about
[17:41]
wanting a skate park specifically at the
world tennis courts here i've got the
[17:47]
professionals that design them and
uh
[17:52]
i think it's a wonderful spot they're
excited that it could be a real uh
[17:56]
destination
it's something that
[17:59]
i
certainly would
[18:01]
think would be a there's kids out there
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and
they're having fun
[18:08]
and kids will be kids
one group will get old enough they won't
[18:11]
do it anymore then the next one will
come
[18:20]
i'm not in favor of any more parks for
the city we don't have the
[18:24]
resources or money to take care of the
parks that we have right now but you
[18:28]
don't need anymore
that's just my personal opinion
[18:33]
i realized it's flashband money-wise
it's use
[18:36]
if you use it
you're taking the risks yourself like
[18:39]
the sledding hill right
we're not responsible for a kid going
[18:43]
down the hill breaking their arm unless
we know that there's an
[18:48]
inherent danger
and we don't address it then we're
[18:51]
liable yeah otherwise we're not
[18:56]
i think it's looking at this i think a
committee or a group
[19:00]
including some high school kids or
however i mean you were in contact with
[19:04]
somebody i mean get a group together and
put their heads together presentation
[19:12]
saying we want it
unless we see some sort of positive
[19:16]
input from the community
i was just going to comment that we've
[19:21]
dealt with skateboarders in a lot
because the downtown businesses were
[19:25]
always always complaining that the kids
were using their curving or their flower
[19:29]
boxes or whatever for their skate stunts
and so the city
[19:35]
went with a temporary part
and we put it all the way out the far
[19:40]
corner of the city but the kids still
made that trek all the way down there
[19:44]
and even though it was a temporary park
it was they used just
[19:49]
pre-fab steel structures they still are
in the same place they've never
[19:54]
done more than that and it's still being
used
[19:58]
and gives you guys a place to push it
hey
[20:01]
you can't you guys can be at ealier or
wherever like you said we're at goodrich
[20:06]
wrecking our bench and we know that's
happening and we'll replace matches
[20:09]
because
guys go over here
[20:20]
i would say not as much but
there's still crazy kids out there
[20:26]
yeah i used more than tennis courts in
there
[20:29]
right
the point of having parks is for public
[20:33]
access if they're not if we put some
structure in there for them to use and
[20:36]
people use it this whole point of having
a park system right
[20:40]
my intent is not to kick anybody out but
when the when those properties are sold
[20:45]
i don't want them selling to make
another
[20:48]
non-retail
business
[20:51]
you know i want i want
availability for mom and pop they want
[20:54]
to put a candle shop in what they want
to put
[20:57]
whatever i mean
i want the i want the downtown to be
[21:03]
open i want it to be
vibrant and selling stuff you know what
[21:08]
i want that i don't want to see
a corner lot taken up by an insurance
[21:12]
agency
is there anything either ordinance or
[21:18]
uh through
uh
[21:22]
complaining essentially i can't think of
the word
[21:28]
zoning
i mean is there anything we can do to to
[21:31]
make sure that that gets done i mean i
don't know
[21:34]
yeah let me look at the ordinance that
we have is that one of them
[21:38]
let me look at that and i'll bring that
back next yeah
[21:41]
cause that's what that's
i want
[21:50]
that's that's fine i don't have an issue
with that but the main drag on tip when
[21:54]
you drive downtown
[22:09]
i guess the only
the only drawback i'd see with that even
[22:15]
for the next budget to just
watch it for some fencing down there
[22:18]
found out how big ryan griego pitkin
drug i think most of you know me
[22:23]
a couple things came up coming out i
agree with you on
[22:27]
retail and what dick
said is also true if you have a building
[22:31]
i'd love to see retail on the first
floor but if the building's sitting
[22:34]
empty for a year you can't get anybody
in there you got to get what you got to
[22:38]
get you know um so i agree with you i'd
love to see it but
[22:41]
unfortunately it's not always
plausible yeah if we got one right now
[22:46]
in the old
kobe place building across the street
[22:48]
from us that that's for rent right now i
don't i think i don't know
[22:52]
we're
scott geiger used to be
[22:55]
um secondly
um secondly
[23:04]
all right
anyone else got anything they want to
[23:07]
add
to talk about
[23:10]
well let's adjourn for
next week
[24:42]
b
[25:01]
that's the first time i've ever seen him
lit up yeah
[25:05]
i didn't even know there was a light up
there i did not yeah either i just saw
[25:09]
that give it to the tech guys
yeah
[25:14]
and you're blinking dick yeah
chica was blanking yeah
[25:19]
well
i guess for the sake of everyone
[25:23]
when you talk
speak up
[25:37]
okay
[25:47]
so is that something we want to
do after the
[25:51]
adoption or
prior to
[25:56]
that's part of
okay
[25:59]
you just remove that okay number three
it's four twenty seven hundred seventy
[26:03]
eight dollars for
breaks ball joints and alignment
[26:09]
how old of a vehicle are we putting this
kind of money into
[26:12]
i think that's actually
a 2017 ford pickup from dpw
[26:20]
i thought it was listed under a police
department
[26:28]
two to a six
[26:38]
they're accounted
[26:41]
because
i will get
[26:44]
the stack of all the bills
[26:50]
i'll have to sign one or two ryerson's
at forty six thousand nine seventeen
[26:55]
uh double l at fifty two thousand two
sixty five actually we got the
[26:59]
impression that carmix didn't really
wanna talk about it so
[27:02]
it's uh not to exceed at 46 917. good
and i might have mentioned the council
[27:08]
my cousin just built a house uh on on a
lake and he had one put in because he
[27:13]
had high water table issues in his
basement
[27:16]
and i tell you that thing worked like a
gem and it just it flowed real nice back
[27:21]
out the lake
[27:24]
good
thank you
[27:26]
all right
[27:29]
for the comments there uh
keith um
[27:35]
one quick thing the buffer strip on
benson have you made any
[27:39]
contacts with any of those people yet i
have not as yet but the ldfa board said
[27:45]
go ahead and make
the offer can we hold on making those
[27:50]
contacts till jeff
represents the finance session
[27:57]
well it is actually owned by the ldfa so
it's really their property to dispose of
[28:03]
if there's good reason to go back to
ldfa in october then we could do that
[28:08]
it's not something that
it was still just solid it's still on
[28:12]
the same premise it would just be a
different idea versus
[28:16]
um
we can fold off on that because your
[28:19]
next work session is going to be in
september ldap meets in october
[28:24]
i don't think any because there's one
business that is
[28:28]
you know busking at the same so to speak
but at this point in time they're not
[28:33]
going to be doing a lot as
you know if we do move forward with the
[28:37]
sale
finalize it
[28:40]
the winner is going to be on top of us
[28:44]
no because that's one of the uh
temporary permanent outdoor seating
[28:49]
areas that you have authorized
okay
[28:55]
sean
oh i just want to
[28:59]
say i had a pretty good time a few days
back with our um
[29:04]
albeit belated fireworks it was still a
very good show
[29:07]
uh i had a good time with the um
the pub pedal in in town two seemed to
[29:13]
be very well attended
and was it was a great day for it
[29:19]
okay
scott
[29:23]
oh here i go get to make some friends
again
[29:29]
first thing is
the slocum street zigzag
[29:34]
park whatever it is called
[29:38]
unless something's been done with it in
the last day
[29:41]
is
an embarrassment to the city
[29:46]
uh you can't even walk down it without
ducking
[29:50]
i mean this stuff has grown
from one side to the other side over top
[29:56]
and
i mean it's just terrible
[30:00]
uh
the next thing that relates to the same
[30:04]
thing is you know coming into our city
on colby
[30:08]
you come down to the bottom of the hill
and you're greeted by
[30:13]
weeds growing under and over the guard
rails then you got
[30:18]
two houses there with very unkept lawns
and then you got an empty strip mall
[30:24]
that's got
three foot high weeds
[30:26]
growing in
all their stones out by the road
[30:31]
and you probably have at least eight or
ten election cut signs sitting there
[30:34]
that are uh ordinance violation as far
as i'm concerned
[30:39]
and then you got a motel that used to be
very well kept that isn't well kept
[30:43]
anymore
i just
[30:45]
don't see where our city is very
welcome looking when you
[30:50]
come into it
and then
[30:53]
once you or somebody just said so i
think i just got missed one picnic table
[30:57]
will probably suffice
um i'm glad to see in the tifa notes
[31:02]
at
ldfa that they're looking at clock
[31:05]
repairs or replacement
also looking at the fire pit activation
[31:09]
button i think that's a great thing um
definitely like i said lottington has
[31:12]
one on theirs um i took a picture of it
just a button it says push here so i
[31:18]
tried to get a company name off that
wasn't there
[31:22]
and i think that's it
yeah that's it okay
[31:28]
last week i spent a couple of days in
cadillac as far as the
[31:32]
the michigan association of mayor's
[31:38]
not a real conference but a workshop and
it was
[31:41]
very enlightening and to
listen to
[31:45]
the subjects that they brought up
it was great talking with other mayors
[31:51]
and finding out you know what their
problems are pretty much
[31:55]
their problems are the same as ours just
bigger city bigger problems the same
[31:59]
nature but
we're still
[32:03]
pretty uh well off compared to a lot of
them i heard a lot of great comments
[32:07]
about whitehall
and
[32:10]
i was
very happy to be there and represent our
[32:13]
city
[32:16]
it was a
a good time
[32:19]
sorry i missed it the community picnic i
i was up there for that i always enjoyed
[32:23]
that community picnic because it is such
a wonderful thing to see the community
[32:27]
out and the kids
down at goodrich park having a great
[32:30]
time
[32:32]
all right with that we have a public
comment next anyone wishing to speak
[32:36]
please come up to the podium give your
name and address and you have three
[32:40]
minutes to
comment
[32:50]
i
see no one i
[32:52]
say we move on to old business scott do
we have any old business
[32:58]
okay new business
we have resolution
[33:03]
2241 right-of-way easements
[33:08]
i'll move to
accept
[33:11]
the resolution 22 80 22 41
right away
[33:17]
second consecutive any discussion
questions
[33:35]
uh
[33:43]
yeah okay so what is the corner down
here with the
[33:47]
lines in the corner
that that's the area that we're looking
[33:51]
to obtain
an official easement
[33:56]
jennifer grow owns the property at that
corner
[33:59]
and basically
[34:03]
in order to make the curb radius
adequate we need to get an easement for
[34:08]
that little
30 by
[34:11]
40 foot strip of property so it's going
to be curved
[34:15]
uh
probably not that that just is going to
[34:18]
be within the road right away
and it's actually
[34:22]
part of the asphalt's there now
so we're going to
[34:27]
officially have it
[34:35]
pretty easy to figure out
[34:42]
anyone else
[34:44]
all right
removing moving second roll call please
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yes
yes
[34:53]
yes
yes
[34:56]
yes brown yes
yes
[35:00]
resolution 2241 is approved next is
resolution 2242 lot split request
[35:09]
i'll move to approve the lot split
request
[35:15]
and moved in second any questions
comments yeah
[35:20]
yes sir don't forget to get it on the
board for you yeah
[35:25]
let's this one's about me
totally
[35:33]
i can't figure this out
[35:37]
okay the the
4.5 the larger piece
[35:41]
um to the north is currently where brad
and erica van bergen live
[35:47]
the maroon
colored house
[35:50]
the property to the south
is owned by 56 nash it's a rental
[35:56]
property that's got a pole barn on it
what they would like to do is add a lean
[36:01]
tube to the north side of that pole barn
but as you can see it's listed as a
[36:04]
garage in that small area
[36:09]
and they want to build the lean to to
the north which would obviously be on
[36:12]
the van buren's property so they're
looking to have a lot split and purchase
[36:18]
basically that 25 foot wide by 203 foot
strip between the two
[36:36]
so that 56 nash can purchase it okay and
i was looking at their address
[36:42]
and wanting to split and i thought that
lots only 100 by 200 it's not big enough
[36:48]
correct
that's the one with the garage on it
[36:51]
yeah it's but it's being added to
so this uh from what i'm gathering
[36:57]
though this is another uh
[37:01]
we're looking for forgiveness
forgiveness instead of uh
[37:06]
that was my question well
yeah
[37:10]
yeah
um because they actually came in and
[37:13]
brooke brought back the uh the title
work
[37:17]
because we we sent that through
equalization and i said wait a minute so
[37:21]
we got a hold of two of the parties
that are owners of 56 nash
[37:27]
and what they had brought in to city
hall back in june
[37:33]
was some of this paperwork but also the
building permits
[37:38]
and they handed it to staff and staff
saw that it was a building permit so
[37:42]
they put that in brian's box
because that's where the building
[37:44]
permits go so it went south
and they were working on the building
[37:48]
permit and also
you know
[37:51]
kind of questioning whether or not they
had a zoning approval
[37:55]
but we didn't catch us in time to put it
on the august planning commission
[37:59]
meeting
so
[38:01]
that's a more of an explanation
it is not um
[38:07]
yeah the acquisition of the property is
kind of an issue mainly for
[38:11]
the property owners
but it is not
[38:14]
um really a violation of our ordinances
because it's your responsibility
[38:20]
to do to approve lots please
we
[38:24]
have the option we have the option to
send it to planning commission for
[38:27]
review and recommendation our sop has
always been just to start with playing
[38:32]
right right you still have the right to
send it back to planning accept or
[38:37]
reject
[38:40]
do our ordinances say anything about
what you can
[38:45]
put under a lien to
uh
[38:49]
no
is the lean too enclosed or is it open i
[38:54]
i think it's just uh it's just a roof
coming off i haven't seen the site well
[38:59]
they gave me a site plan but no
construction documents that was another
[39:03]
thing that threw us off with the
building permit
[39:06]
but my understanding is it's just going
to be a roof opened on three sides the
[39:09]
fourth side would be the edge the side
of the garage that's my understanding
[39:14]
now this is the same
[39:17]
garage that's a pole building that
we approved
[39:22]
in addition on to the front of it
probably three years
[39:26]
ago and
i specifically remember
[39:32]
that it was said at that time that the
front
[39:36]
of the
pole barn was supposed to be made to
[39:39]
look like the house which has never been
done as far as i'm concerned
[39:44]
that was approved by the city manager
[39:52]
well
i think we also
[39:54]
at that time
required some sort of
[39:59]
pavement
[40:03]
and approach on the garage
and this would actually
[40:08]
well i think the concern was um
well part of it was that part of that
[40:14]
gravel driveway was encroaching on the
property to the north
[40:19]
with this last split in the acquisition
then that would kind of negate that but
[40:24]
i would have to go back and double check
on
[40:27]
the apron requirement i thought there
was some specific apron requirement that
[40:32]
hasn't been met but
that
[40:35]
would be something for you to check on
but yeah as if there's any outstanding
[40:40]
issues as part of the new site right
this would be the time to to look at all
[40:45]
of it
make sure everything complies
[40:51]
so what's the uh council's uh
so once this i mean essentially we're
[40:56]
just doing the lot split now once we get
to that point
[40:59]
the rest of it will go to planning right
well not as a residential um if this is
[41:05]
approved they will have to come and get
a site plan okay as a residential that's
[41:09]
approved by the zoning administrator
okay once that's approved then they have
[41:14]
to go to building to get the building
permits okay
[41:17]
so two more steps okay
so as far as just the last split
[41:25]
i guess i don't see a problem with that
now that i know
[41:28]
what we're looking at here
[41:32]
yeah sure anyone else like to weigh in
on that
[41:36]
or just want to
push it to the roll call
[41:48]
apparently not so we'll
move forward with a roll call please
[41:53]
uh yes
yes
[41:57]
yes
yes
[42:00]
connell yes brown no
sultan yes
[42:06]
resolution 2242 lot split request is
approved
[42:10]
we next have public comment again
anyone wishing to speak to the council
[42:15]
please step to the podium
[42:22]
obviously nothing okay
next is a closed session to discuss
[42:28]
acquisition of real property i move we
go into closed session to discuss the
[42:32]
acquisition of a real property
[42:40]
please
yes
[42:52]
yes
all right we're closed session we ask
[42:55]
all the
none
[42:58]
requirement