[0:51] We'd like to call this September 17th, 2026. We'll make to the City Council regular meeting to order, roll call, please.

[0:58] Sleva, snar, here, wells, here, early, german, here. All members are present and we have a quorum. Please stand with me for the pledge of allegiance.

[1:10] to

[1:16] the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, or which stands, one nation

[1:24] undergold, individual with liberty and justice for all.

[1:32] Please join me for a moment of silence.

[1:44] Thank you.

[1:47] Our next item is the President's portion of the agenda.

[1:52] First item is to review and approve the agenda.

[1:55] Are there any changes or additions necessary?

[2:01] Senegal, Intertain Emotion to accept the agenda as presented.

[2:05] So moved?

[2:06] Second.

[2:06] I have motion by Mr. Numbles, a second by Mr. Early to accept the agenda.

[2:11] All in favour, signify by saying aye.

[2:13] pose like so, and the agenda is approved.

[2:19] The second item is reviewing approval of the September 3rd regular Council meeting minutes.

[2:25] Are there any changes or additions to that?

[2:31] I'll make a motion for acceptance as presented.

[2:34] Second, I have a motion to accept the September 3rd regular council meeting minutes as presented by Mr. Null, second by Mr. Toliver, all in favour, signify by C&I.

[2:47] Those opposed like sign.

[2:51] Motion passes and the minutes from September 3rd are approved.

[2:57] The next item is moving into executive session, so I'll ask for someone to move that forward in just a moment.

[3:04] We will counsel will be exiting to the service director's office just seems like it's much easier than moving people in the gallery.

[3:13] We don't expect it to be very long.

[3:16] We do from the standpoint of having to make your weight, so I apologize for that.

[3:21] Don't expect it to be very long in no action from the executive session legislatively tonight.

[3:30] So, and we will invite Mr. Roth, Ms. Warren, and Council members.

[3:40] So, and I think that's all I need.

[3:43] Mr. Crop.

[3:44] Mr. Crop.

[3:46] All right, so may I have a motion please.

[3:48] Mr. President, I'd like to move the council inter executive session under a higher revised

[3:54] code section 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, G5 matters required to be kept confidential by federal law

[4:00] regulations or state statutes specifically revised code 9.66D and G8 economic development.

[4:08] This specifically pertains to an exemption granted under revised code section 57 and 9.61357 and 9.69.

[4:18] I have a motion to move into executive session by Mr. Toliver, second by Mr. Early.

[4:24] Roll call please.

[4:25] Sleva? Yes.

[4:26] Snar? Yes.

[4:27] Wells? Yes.

[4:28] Early? Yes.

[4:29] Noles? Yes.

[4:30] German? Yes. Toliver.

[4:31] Yes.

[4:32] Motion passes 70 and we're moving into executive session at 703.

[6:35] Would they be able to have something to know about you?

[6:40] You know, it's a bit

[6:45] of a failure.

[6:53] But you know what you're watching?

[6:55] What's up, man?

[7:07] What's up, man?

[7:08] What's up?

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[22:37] We go up to the Earth, not even a little bit more than ever, and we can't reach the full Sun, but we can't reach the upper Sun.

[23:53] We have returned from executive session, could I have a motion to exit executive

[23:58] session please?

[23:59] Second.

[24:01] I have a motion to exit executive session by Mr.

[24:04] Noles a second by Mr. Early.

[24:06] Roll call please?

[24:07] Snar.

[24:09] Yes.

[24:10] Well, yes.

[24:11] Early?

[24:12] Yes.

[24:12] Noles?

[24:12] Yes.

[24:13] Garmin? Yes.

[24:14] Toliver? Yes.

[24:15] Slave off.

[24:17] Motion passes 70 and we have exit executive session at 7.23.

[24:24] And we're ready to move to item 7 on our agenda.

[24:27] comments from members of the public, so do we have our first speaker, please?

[24:33] Levi-Zane.

[24:37] Welcome, Sir, if you'll state your name again in your address.

[24:40] Levi-Zane, 290-Berdale, what do you think I'll do?

[24:44] I'll find this real quick.

[24:46] I don't know what it will take to see it to coordinate the stop lights in town.

[24:54] I can drive through homeless all high, is it that I can drive through a well-mitted?

[24:59] And a lot of people don't want to even come down to town because you can stop literally

[25:04] at every stop like they're so how to say

[25:10] just the thought of them.

[25:12] All right.

[25:13] Thank you, sir.

[25:14] Thank you.

[25:14] The other one was, we have a four-way stop at Dustin Wall, which is behind the Earl and

[25:24] all of it playing.

[25:26] It's for a way because back in the day, when Earl was there, their parking lot was out

[25:33] back and sold, when the people were coming going, it was literally a poor way stop, but now

[25:39] there's nothing back there. It's just an empty field. So there's no reason for that to be

[25:45] a poor way stop. It just changed that. Yeah, but are you talking about the north-south

[25:52] Stop signs for me, okay, if we could, if we could, if we could just limit it to comment and then we can get get the administration to follow up with you.

[26:07] And the other thing is just all the requirements.

[26:11] I hope I didn't know who was the talk to your last meeting, but he was obviously running

[26:18] from mayor and it was, I don't think, you know, he's probably me as a singer for campaign

[26:28] for office.

[26:32] That's fine.

[26:32] That's all I had.

[26:33] All right.

[26:33] Thank you, sir.

[26:34] Thank you, Levi.

[26:49] Good afternoon.

[26:52] Good afternoon.

[26:53] Good afternoon.

[26:53] My name is John Romer, and I'm a resident of Wilmington, I live at 1040 Higry Trail Drive.

[27:00] So tonight, I want to have my comments regarding a number of things that occurred in our last meeting, and I'd like to comment on them.

[27:07] But first, interesting fact, today is the anniversary of the U.S. Constitution being signed in 1787.

[27:15] And everything that we do in here is controlled by constitutions.

[27:21] So first, there's a lot of questions last time about the emergency ordinance.

[27:26] And they never got answered.

[27:30] We went back and forth.

[27:31] So this cut to the chase.

[27:34] These ordinances were passed as emergencies for one reason and one reason only.

[27:39] Under U.S. Constitution Article 2, Section 1D, and revised code 731-29 and 731-30, an emergency

[27:47] clause exempts some ordinance from the referendum, which means it takes away the rights

[27:54] of the citizen voters to do anything against it, any normal ordinance can have a referendum,

[28:01] but not an emergency.

[28:03] So, the goal is to take away the residents' right to challenge is that the ballot box that

[28:09] was a simple answer, and it should have been provided.

[28:12] By the way, citizens of the rights are not covered by the NDA.

[28:17] So, there was no reason we couldn't have been discussing that, that was nothing to do with

[28:22] that.

[28:23] Second, there were some issues about data centers and how important it is.

[28:28] I think all of you probably know who Kevin O'Leary is, he's famous for this chart tank, and he was the one that started the claim that there was communists that were going out and funding things to stop data centers, and we had to do things, and we created a red spirit.

[28:45] Interestingly enough, if you know, he's behind the straddest project, which at the time he proposed it was a 40,000 acre data center, he's since been required to make it smaller.

[28:57] However, after he made that claim, he retracted it and he is claim publicly and you can look

[29:04] up that he has no evidence that any communist or any Chinese anything to do with the opposition

[29:11] to the data centers.

[29:12] So, no, they're not trying to do it.

[29:14] Nor are we following behind China in data centers attract us a lot from what they do for

[29:20] my job.

[29:21] The U.S. has more data centers than the next 10 countries combined, over 4,400, China

[29:29] has 370.

[29:31] China does have some very large data centers, but none as large as the hyper data centers

[29:36] that we have.

[29:38] Virginia has brought up last time, has up to 35% of the capacity of the data centers in the

[29:48] They will have more capacity than China and Europe.

[29:53] Thank you.

[29:53] Thank you, Mr. Aurora.

[29:58] Gary Huffenberger.

[30:00] Gary

[30:04] Huffenberger,

[30:21] President Osborne, Director Williams, Gary Huffenberger, 340 Southwall, Wilmington.

[30:29] When proposed legislation is known to be debatable, holding the three stipulated, stipulated readings on three days provides more opportunities for citizens to weigh in.

[30:40] In addition, lawmakers and cells can benefit from further time to clarify and deliberate.

[30:47] Indeed, we saw this unfold at the August 6 meeting in connection with the original,

[30:52] homeless camping ordinance, and it's section 551.02 on sleeping.

[31:00] After feedback, the sleeping section was revised and can be found in the newly minted

[31:05] bodily obstruction ordinance.

[31:08] So, I'm asking you to consider having the second readings only of the homeless camping and

[31:15] bodily obstruction laws tonight.

[31:21] Outlooks differ on how risky or safe the parks and trails are.

[31:26] This summer, the door of Hope Church, Hale Vacation Bible School, with about 40 children

[31:30] at Southeast Community Park.

[31:33] And then the recent talk, a caveman, a cycling without age volunteer, Terry Schleiball, said

[31:40] she did not regard the Luther war and peace path as safe than she would not transport

[31:45] senior citizens and others with limited mobility in a trash off bicycle on the trail as she

[31:52] does repeatedly.

[31:57] When it comes to John and James you public assessing the riskiness of the

[32:01] parks it would have been useful if the parks and director and his most in his recent letter to

[32:06] Council had included numerical counts, or numerical estimates, for the serenetals and human

[32:14] feces found in the parks, along with the timeframe.

[32:19] Such numerical data could help us get a clearer picture of the level of risk.

[32:27] And lastly, there has been some talk roughly amounting to take back the parts.

[32:34] However, the earth is the Lord's and the fullness of their earth.

[32:41] Thank you.

[32:43] Thank you, Mr. Huffenberger.

[32:48] Another speaker.

[32:49] Dustin Pierce.

[32:52] He's just stepped out.

[32:54] We could go around.

[32:56] Patricia Thomas.

[33:04] Go ahead, Mrs. Thomas.

[33:06] We'll catch Mr. Pierce here in just a moment.

[33:10] Patricia Thomas, two-nine-two, alumni circle, Wilmington.

[33:13] I bring my concerns tonight with the belief that we're all interested in a safe community.

[33:22] I do have several questions and concerns about the camping ordinance, however.

[33:27] First, I'm concerned that the no camping ordinance allows taking a personal belongings without the order being present.

[33:34] The ordinance reads the city May, post 24 hour notice before removing all personal belongings.

[33:41] I know how painful and frustrating it is to have no control over who inspects or walks off with your personal belongings.

[33:50] I encounter dozens of homeless women who have had things taken away by the authorities that are never returned when she goes to reclaim them.

[33:59] It's devastating to show up at the designated desk to be told the person in charge of storage cannot find your purse,

[34:06] or your paper bag you have been carefully storing your personal documents in, or the phone

[34:12] you saved up for months to purchase.

[34:16] Hosting notice of seizure after 24 hours, no grants a degree of ownership and invites

[34:22] the owners to take responsibility for his own own property, and the fact that they have

[34:28] broken the law regarding camping on public property.

[34:31] If the goal is to clean up unsanitary campsites on public property, giving the occupant 24-hour

[34:39] notice to move on themselves before seizing their personal belongings and accomplices

[34:45] the goal of restoring the space for the public to use and enjoy.

[34:52] I'm also wondering about what is allowed.

[34:56] The ordinance reads that an individual must have a shelter and or bedding of some sort, like a bedroom, before he or she is told to pack up and move on.

[35:08] I ask, because I'm acquainted with the homeless woman who works until closing in the early morning hours, and then after eight hours on her feet, walks the two miles or so back into town.

[35:19] By the end of his four o'clock in the morning, so she often sits on a picnic bench in the Denver Williams Park,

[35:27] Rester had on the tabletop and falls asleep.

[35:30] Sometimes she'll cover up with a coat to stay warm.

[35:34] Is she at risk of being awakened and told to move on or subject to a rest?

[35:40] She too needs to go to the bathroom.

[35:42] But the bathroom's locked up for the night.

[35:45] What choice is left, but to go on the grass?

[35:48] I'd also like to know about sleeping in your RV camper.

[35:53] Does the ordinance allow spending the night in a self-contained RV parked on a city street?

[35:59] In a city park, or shopping parking, or center parking lot.

[36:04] Thank you.

[36:05] Thank you, Ms. Thomas.

[36:11] Dustin Pierce?

[36:16] Welcome.

[36:16] And my allowed to pass out these accounts are someone allowed to pass them out for me if you could

[36:23] hand them to you know.

[36:24] Well, director Horde.

[36:28] So these are just the, this is the city council goals for the city of Lebanon.

[36:34] I know a lot of cities have annual goals that their council creates.

[36:38] So obviously I'm running for mayor to promote a council manager government and that structure

[36:43] basically city council just has more input into an overseen of the city administration.

[36:51] So I thought I was neat the city of up and on their website actually post their annual

[36:55] goals for council, which is neat because it's been its transparent for the community of what

[37:00] the city is trying to do and the city council then pulls the administration responsible or

[37:06] accountable every year to achieve these goals. And there are goals in different categories

[37:10] things like public safety, attracting new hotels, paving streets on certain roads, getting

[37:17] grants for infrastructure. I don't have that much to say at night. I just thought I'd

[37:30] And maybe something to consider council could do, or administration could do that at some point down the road.

[37:37] The reason I think it could be important for us, because I think clearly defining where Wilmington wants to go as a city,

[37:45] could potentially help residents from spending time and resources fighting against the things that they don't want.

[37:53] which seems to happen a lot.

[37:55] We have people who fight against high-density apartments

[37:59] in front of tempered land, people who fight against

[38:02] high-result data centers behind tempered land.

[38:04] There's just a lot of fighting and things we don't want.

[38:06] But I think if the city took some initiative to

[38:08] clearly define what we do want and works towards those goals

[38:12] that could potentially help.

[38:14] Just some thoughts.

[38:15] So I just learned to be so free to look at for what it's worth.

[38:19] Thank you, Mr. Curses.

[38:23] That concludes then comments from members of the public.

[38:27] Moving to item eight, elected appointed officials reports, did Mayor Haley leave one with Mr.

[38:34] Evelyn or Mr. Crowe?

[38:38] All right.

[38:38] Audit Revents is also absent, Deputy Law Director Horr?

[38:42] No report, Mr. President.

[38:44] All right.

[38:44] Thank you.

[38:45] Sir, Mr. Director Crowe.

[38:50] For the record, I do agree with the first gentleman that spoke about the red lights.

[38:55] We are looking at that right now, it's set up to give

[38:59] South Street, the preference, which messes up, made and locused.

[39:05] We don't know if that's the best route or not.

[39:08] It's going to take a little while, a little bit of money to try to free this out and try

[39:12] to.

[39:13] But we do want to work on that.

[39:16] I think about the last council meeting, and I know that I didn't answer very many data

[39:24] Center questions wasn't had a disrespect.

[39:29] It was that meeting was for a rezoning of a property, not a data center.

[39:35] And when the Planning Commission site plan comes together, there will be a team that can

[39:42] answer these questions that these folks have about data centers.

[39:47] That's my take on that.

[39:50] Also I think you've received some emails about recycling.

[39:53] I know there's been some information, this information out in the social media.

[40:00] I did invite Cody here tonight in case you do have any questions or concerns that you

[40:07] would like to ask him personally.

[40:09] Why he's here?

[40:10] I don't make a step up into that.

[40:15] Questions from members of Council?

[40:17] There is legislation expected by the next meeting concerning curbside or cycling.

[40:25] The

[40:34] only thing I want to say before us to back down is as you all know we are in the process

[40:39] of budget for next year.

[40:43] If it is decided that we are going to keep every time cycling,

[40:49] the sooner we could know

[40:50] that that would be best for me budgeting for our department because we are looking at purchasing

[40:55] a new truck at that point and it is about $400,000.

[40:58] So, let's keep that in mind.

[41:04] Questions for Mr. Rumor?

[41:08] All right.

[41:09] Thank you.

[41:09] That's all I have, Mr. President.

[41:10] All right.

[41:11] Thank you, Mr. Crow.

[41:12] Safety Director, even.

[41:20] Mr. President, members of Council.

[41:23] Good evening.

[41:24] Good evening.

[41:28] Since this last Council meeting, we've had a lot of activity.

[41:34] And I think it warrants mentioning tonight,

[41:36] because if you listen to some of the social media warriors,

[41:41] They keep saying that the Wilmington police department

[41:43] are only doing, they don't do anything.

[41:46] Well tonight, I'm going to give you an idea

[41:47] of what we've been doing in the past two weeks,

[41:50] and for their era for that matter.

[41:54] In the past two weeks since the last council meeting,

[41:56] there was an armed robbery at Speedway.

[42:00] The perpetrator of that was identified,

[42:03] was arrested, and is charged in that armed robbery.

[42:07] There was a terroristic threat at the Wilmington High School that was taken care of.

[42:15] We had a high-pleased presence at the school system when that occurred.

[42:22] The perpetrator was identified and will be charged in that.

[42:28] There was a vandalism, a sugargrew of cemetery, where somebody went out there and defaced

[42:33] with spray paint, some of the above-ground Mosulians that were out there, that perpetrator

[42:39] was identified and was arrested and will be prosecuted.

[42:45] You heard earlier about fatal accident out on State Route 73, where the law director's office

[42:51] participated in that.

[42:52] Now that wasn't a police department per se, but at primarily that was a highway patrol incident

[43:00] with the assistance of the sheriff's department.

[43:03] Our life squad did go out there, though,

[43:04] and we transported an individual to Clinton Memorial Hospital,

[43:09] and there will be more to come on that in the future.

[43:13] We had two vehicle chases through town,

[43:17] and one foot person, where the perpetrator was bailed.

[43:23] And so we chased him down, we arrested him.

[43:27] And I want to talk to you a little bit about

[43:29] What's going on so far this year?

[43:32] So far the police department has answered through dispatch, I might add,

[43:37] 8,258 calls for service, 8,258, 258.

[43:45] Main 433 arrests conducted 1,233 traffic stops,

[43:51] 874 business checks, and investigated 166 vehicle crashes,

[43:57] There's both private and public on the public roadway.

[44:02] And interestingly enough, for people that less than they aren't doing anything.

[44:08] We have four shifts, and the sergeant in charge of each shift.

[44:12] Sergeant Calhoun's shift this year, in 2026 so far, through traffic stops alone, as confiscated

[44:21] 1.63 pounds of methamphetamine, and 29.89 grams of fentanyl,

[44:27] most of this is all from traffic stops.

[44:29] It says, and from bus or undercover actions or anything like that,

[44:36] this is just in traffic stops.

[44:38] So our people are out there doing the job.

[44:40] They're working hard.

[44:42] It's been very interesting, you know, one of the things that sadly,

[44:46] I take a lot of ripping about, because I stood up here in front of you all

[44:50] and sworn in officers, and sworn in new sergeants, and they said,

[44:57] Evelyn, you're up there, every other meeting,

[44:59] to swear on somebody in.

[45:00] And two officers go out, but we've had new officers come in. Our new officers are first rate. And you know what's changed? The attitude down there has changed a hundred percent.

[45:11] And these people are here to do a job. They're working hard. Their attitude is a hundred percent different than it was previously.

[45:19] And I attribute, virtually all of that, to the leadership of Chief Joss Gibson, he's done a tremendous job down there.

[45:28] Putting that department together in a way that they come to work, they do their job, and I'm extremely proud of all of them.

[45:35] And I think you should be too.

[45:37] And so I ask all the members of the public, when you see one of our officers out there, thank them.

[45:42] There's their doing their best they can.

[45:43] They lead home, they put on their best, and put on their badge,

[45:48] to strap on their gun and go out to protect you

[45:51] and the citizens of Wilmington, Ohio,

[45:53] and the best way to take possibly can.

[45:57] And every one of them wants, and I would say,

[46:01] you know, when I first first stepped this job,

[46:03] I wasn't really sure I wanted it.

[46:05] As you know, the Department hasn't,

[46:08] over the last 10, 15 years,

[46:11] hasn't necessarily had the best reputation in the community.

[46:14] I'm here to tell you that that has changed.

[46:18] Personnel have turned over, people who had drama in their lives and wanted to create drama

[46:25] and various things, they're gone now, and we are at the part that I believe is really

[46:32] only obsolete, acres ahead of where they were before, and so I just wanted you to know

[46:36] about that tonight, because when you see things on social media about, oh, why wasn't

[46:42] an officer present when this happened, and why didn't they do this, and why didn't they

[46:45] to do that, keep in mind that if you were that person,

[46:49] it's going out there, straffin' on the bed,

[46:52] not knowing what you're gonna get into that day.

[46:57] It's challenging, and it's a job that I wouldn't do.

[47:01] I couldn't do it.

[47:02] This job that most of us probably couldn't,

[47:04] but nonetheless, they're there for you.

[47:06] And so, if you could, just kind of give them a hands up,

[47:11] and tell them what a good job they're doing,

[47:13] they'll certainly appreciate it.

[47:17] I think that's just about all I've got tonight, but I thought you'd be interested in hearing

[47:23] that.

[47:25] And we've gotten a lot of requests here lately for information, I will say this, we've

[47:30] gotten a lot of information requests for public records about what does it cost us to provide

[47:37] certain services, particularly one if we're going to one here recently,

[47:44] for our father's

[47:45] what does it cost to do that? Well my response to that is this. If there was no crime and

[47:53] we'll meet in Ohio it would cost us the same to have police officers to have life squad

[47:58] ready for whatever incident might take place. I mean we've got it we've got to set fixed

[48:04] cost for everything that we do salaries. Obviously you know that that's the biggest part of it.

[48:11] But you gotta keep in mind that whether there's one crime, or there's 1,000 crimes, or 8,250,

[48:18] it calls for service, the cost is the same, what an amount there, now it isn't cheap, but

[48:25] they are out there to do the best that they can, to serve you, to be ready with that

[48:31] life's going when the time comes.

[48:33] So that's my presentation for this evening, and I hope you'll give a word of appreciation

[48:38] to the public servants that are out there working hard for you.

[48:41] That's almost, Mr. Edwin.

[48:43] Thank you, Mr. Edwin.

[48:44] Mr. Edwin, can you give us the total amount on that fit and all again?

[48:50] Mr. Edwin?

[48:51] I'm sorry.

[48:52] He's asking for the amount of fit and all the total amount of fit and all that was in that bus.

[48:57] I'm sorry.

[48:58] The fit and all, how much fit and all was that that they found?

[49:02] It was 29.89 grams.

[49:05] Now, I can't tell you what that is, is that a handful or is that a pound I don't know.

[49:10] It's enough to kill a lot of people.

[49:11] I just thought we should do absolutely that.

[49:13] I mean, pure fentanyl, the amount on the tip of a ballpoint pen can kill you.

[49:21] And to find, you know, we find that and we'll be trying to hire.

[49:23] We have the same problems that everybody else does in the other big cities.

[49:27] Just less of it on a smaller scale.

[49:30] But nonetheless,

[49:35] it's a problem and we, in fact, we're getting that off the streets of

[49:39] one of the things.

[49:40] Yes, sir.

[49:41] There's nothing given.

[49:43] Other questions?

[49:45] comments.

[49:47] Thank you all for letting me just spell it off a little bit tonight, but I appreciate that.

[49:51] Thank you.

[49:51] Thank you, Mr. Eva.

[49:54] Moving on to all business.

[49:55] City Services Committee, Mr. Wells.

[49:59] Mr. President.

[50:00] And I have one item, which is the second reading on Resolution 2637, authorizing the mayor

[50:08] to enter into a contract with civic plus for meeting management software for the city

[50:14] will make that.

[50:16] And we talked about this the last time.

[50:19] Are there any questions, any discussion, and by having anything?

[50:25] Okay, I move for the second reading on Resolution 2637 by Title L.

[50:33] I'll second that.

[50:34] I have a motion by Mr. Wells for second reading of Resolution 2637 by Title

[50:39] L. Second by Mr. Toliver, all in favor, signify by saying aye.

[50:43] Aye. Those opposed.

[50:44] Aye.

[50:46] May I have second reading of Resolution 2637, please.

[50:49] Resolution R2637, authorizing the mayor's answer into a contract with civic

[50:54] plus for meeting management software for the city of Lomington, Ohio.

[50:59] Thank you.

[51:01] I'd like to have the third reading at the next council,

[51:07] Thank you, Mr. Wells.

[51:09] That's all.

[51:10] Thank you.

[51:11] Finance committee, Mr. Nulls.

[51:13] Yes, I have two pieces of legislation for old business.

[51:17] First being resolution R2638,

[51:21] authorizing release of certainly agreement transfer property to TLA enterprises.

[51:27] We spoke about this in depth last time as well.

[51:31] This is the escape property that the revolving loan, the U-Dag, and least agreement for

[51:38] the strip of land adjacent to the escape has been paid in full, and in terms of leave,

[51:44] release have been satisfied.

[51:49] Any questions on that? Okay.

[51:55] I'd like to make a motion to suspend

[51:59] the rules and regulations and give second and third reading of a resolution, resolution

[52:06] R26-38 by title only.

[52:10] Second, I have a motion by Mr. Nulls for second and third reading of Resolution 2638, second by Mr.

[52:17] Toliver, roll call, please.

[52:19] Early? Yes.

[52:21] Nulls? Yes.

[52:22] German? Yes.

[52:30] Yes. Yes. Yes. Well. Yes. Motion passes 7-0, may I have second and third reading by title only? Resolution R-2638, resolution authorizing the release of a certain lease agreement and transfer of property to T-Eliant Enterprises LLC.

[52:46] I'd like to make a motion for passage of Resolution R-26-38.

[52:52] I have a motion for passage of Resolution 2638 by Mr. Null, second by Mr. German.

[52:58] Roll call, please.

[52:59] Nulls?

[53:00] Yes.

[53:00] German? Yes.

[53:01] Toliver? Yes.

[53:02] Sleva? Yes.

[53:03] Snar? Yes.

[53:04] Well, early.

[53:05] Yes.

[53:06] Motion passes 70 and Resolution 2638 passes.

[53:12] Okay.

[53:12] The next thing and last thing that I have for O Business is Resolution R26-39.

[53:19] This is accepting the local assistant formula from the provided by a Clinton County

[53:27] auditor.

[53:28] We discussed this the last time as well.

[53:31] This is the acceptance of the local government fund, the LGF formula.

[53:37] Does any questions on this?

[53:41] Seeing none, I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules and regulations and give second and third reading to Resolution R-26-309 by Title 1 like.

[53:54] So, second.

[53:56] I have a motion by Mr. Nulls, the second by Mr. Early.

[54:00] For second and third reading, roll call, please.

[54:02] German.

[54:03] Yes.

[54:04] Toliver.

[54:05] Yes.

[54:05] Slaybough.

[54:06] Yes.

[54:06] Well.

[54:07] Yes.

[54:08] Yes.

[54:10] Motion passes.

[54:11] 7-0 may have second and third reading place. Resolution R-26-39 accepting local government assistance formula as provided by the Clinton County Auditor.

[54:22] I can make motion for passage of resolution R-26-39.

[54:31] Second.

[54:32] I have a motion for passage of resolution 26-39 by Mr. Null's second by Mr. Early.

[54:38] roll-completes.

[54:40] Yes.

[54:46] Motion passes 7-0.

[54:48] Resolution 2639 passes.

[54:51] I have a roll business, Mr. President.

[54:53] All right, thank you, Mr. Nulls.

[54:55] Judiciary, Mr. Slebel.

[54:57] We have two items of all business, Mr. President.

[55:00] The first one is second-and-third reading on ordinance 2649.

[55:04] That was the public camping legislation that we've discussed.

[55:08] Previously, there were some questions brought up in public comments.

[55:12] I don't know if there's more discussion or questions on this legislation anyone has.

[55:18] I would like to say something if I make and this is really concerning both of the coming

[55:23] because they're tied together one right after the other.

[55:28] Thank you, Mr. President and Council members.

[55:32] Tonight we have an opportunity to take a meaningful step toward the health safety

[55:36] quality of life of everyone who lives in works in or visits Womington. This ordinance

[55:42] is a good step in the right direction. It gives our city clear and forceable tools to

[55:47] address camp again obstruction on public property while protecting the public spaces that

[55:53] belong to all of us. It is consistent with the approach successfully adopted by other

[55:58] higher communities and with the legal framework affirmed by the United States Supreme Court.

[56:02] But an ordinance alone is not enough, the real opportunity comes if we embrace this legislation

[56:09] and pair it with a comprehensive plan.

[56:12] The Trump administration through HUD Secretary Scott Turner has advanced a treatment

[56:16] first approach that recognizes housing as essential, but housing alone is not enough.

[56:24] It prioritizes connecting people with treatment for addiction and mental illness alongside

[56:29] supportive services that can move toward recovery and lasting self-sufficiency.

[56:35] If Womiton uses this ordinance as the foundation for that kind of coordinated treatment,

[56:39] centered strategy, we have a real fighting chance to make sustainable change.

[56:45] Change that improves outcomes for people experiencing homelessness, and a storage safety

[56:49] in order to our streets, parks, and sidewalks.

[56:53] Lowington is joining a small but growing number of communities across Ohio and the nation.

[56:59] They're choosing to act.

[57:01] Cities like Newark, Heath, Mentor, Brunswick, Ashtabula, Finley, Canton, and others have

[57:07] already taken similar steps.

[57:10] We can learn from their experience and do this thoughtfully, firmly and compassionately.

[57:15] I urge my colleagues on Council to support the final passage tonight.

[57:18] this is a practical responsible step that positions our city to address a difficult problem

[57:24] with both accountability and a genuine path forward.

[57:28] Thank you.

[57:29] Thank you, Mr. Scheller, there are other comments.

[57:33] I'm Mr. Scheller.

[57:34] Yeah, I generally support this legislation.

[57:37] I think it is good, although I do think tonight some good questions were raised and in my

[57:45] that's what this is about is is, you know, the public speaking, us listening, and I think some,

[57:54] I have, like I said, some questions, and so I don't think we need to rush through this. I'd like to

[57:59] think through these questions and come back in two weeks and finalize it. So I just wanted to say that.

[58:11] The, for the amount of people who are camping, so to speak, Mr. Updagrove's letter that was

[58:21] right into record here last meeting, that was one week's worth and that was a lot of people.

[58:29] So this is not something that is a one of, this happens a lot every single week, he fights

[58:38] it.

[58:38] This is just in the parks, it's not just, it's not,

[58:42] so it's going on everywhere.

[58:44] I mean, if you go buy galvan park, my wife,

[58:47] and I go buy galvan park quite frequently,

[58:50] when we come up town, or go out to the town,

[58:54] and we can see it on practically every day, 2, 3, 4, 5 people

[58:58] on the picnic tables, it's sprawled out.

[59:01] They've got everything.

[59:02] This is on a daily basis.

[59:04] So I mean, this is something that I don't think it can,

[59:07] that's my opinion. It's a daily basis.

[59:11] So do you think this legislation prevents someone from sitting at a picnic table when there are 30 of them

[59:18] and putting their stuff on the table? Yes. Because they had their stuff spread out all over the picnic table.

[59:25] We'll see.

[59:30] Is it further discussion?

[59:37] I guess I kind of have a question about something that was raised.

[59:42] If somebody is in General Denver, Williams Park at 4am, the park is closed, that's against

[59:50] the city ordinance to begin with.

[59:55] So they could actually be picked up and arrested under the ordinances.

[1:00:00] So that would have nothing to do with this ordinance at all.

[1:00:07] You know, I would hate to see somebody during hours that was walking exercising, enjoying the park, sit down and bench, put their head down and go to sleep,

[1:00:25] have something happen, but I believe that's why we changed it to begin with so that

[1:00:32] didn't happen.

[1:00:35] So I don't think,

[1:00:41] I guess what I'm getting at, is we're not going

[1:00:45] against any ordinances that are to exist. What we're trying to do is make sure that

[1:00:55] we are creating a safe place for our residents to enjoy. So I really am poor the

[1:01:04] sort of the way it's written. So, sorry. No, go ahead. I would just like to

[1:01:10] some of the comments that were made or questions regarding somebody

[1:01:18] necessarily having a look back on with this sleeping bag and sitting at a bench.

[1:01:24] this was a discussion question we had actually when we were putting this together, that that's not

[1:01:31] nice, that's not camping. You're not actively spreading out your belongings and using that as a

[1:01:41] shelter or there's there's a difference between just sitting there at the bench and

[1:01:51] you're picking table and you're not laying on top of the picking table so you're not

[1:01:56] obstructing and you haven't opened up your boat bag and laid your blankets and

[1:02:01] you're sleeping bag and all of those things. That's that's not that's not

[1:02:06] camping. So just so make sure at least that question is answered because I think

[1:02:11] that was asked to me.

[1:02:17] Thank you.

[1:02:21] Is there further discussion?

[1:02:24] I would just like to

[1:02:25] say again I know we talked about it a few weeks ago but thanks to everybody who

[1:02:28] work together on kind of revising this from where it started to what we have now.

[1:02:32] I do think this is a great tool for police officers.

[1:02:36] I think it's a great start, and I think it can be a springboard for even better things

[1:02:41] to come for our city.

[1:02:47] So, I'm sorry, one more thing.

[1:02:48] I apologize.

[1:02:49] I just want to follow up regarding, there's a comment about, for a, and we're a mid-nighter,

[1:02:54] whatever that is.

[1:02:55] You're probably, at that point, you're looking probably at trust-passing, and we are

[1:03:01] working on revamping the park rules anyways. So it may fall under a park rule.

[1:03:13] But it's likely going to fall. I mean, if the police see them out there, it's likely going to fall under trust passing.

[1:03:26] Thank you. Anyone else?

[1:03:33] Seeing none, I will move to give second and third reading of ordinance 2649 by title only.

[1:03:39] I'll take it.

[1:03:40] Sorry.

[1:03:41] I'll be free.

[1:03:42] Please do as a mentor.

[1:03:43] It's a spend of rules and regulations and give second and third reading to ordinance

[1:03:46] 2649 by title only.

[1:03:49] All right.

[1:03:49] I have a second.

[1:03:50] I have a motion to suspend the rules and regulations for second and third reading on

[1:03:55] ordinance 2649 motion by Mr. Slaibwell, second by Mr. Toliver.

[1:03:59] Roll call please.

[1:04:00] Slaibwell.

[1:04:01] Yes.

[1:04:01] Snar.

[1:04:02] No.

[1:04:03] Wells.

[1:04:04] Yes.

[1:04:04] Early.

[1:04:05] Yes.

[1:04:07] Yes.

[1:04:07] German.

[1:04:07] Yes.

[1:04:09] Motion passes 6-1.

[1:04:12] May I have second and third reading, please?

[1:04:14] Ornance O2649, regulating public camping, temporary habitation, and occupancy of public property.

[1:04:21] Thank you.

[1:04:22] And I'll move for passage of Ornance 2649, as a red.

[1:04:25] A second.

[1:04:26] I have a motion for passage of Ornance 2649 by Mr. Slaybaugh, second by Mr.

[1:04:32] Dolever.

[1:04:33] Roll call, please.

[1:04:33] Yes.

[1:04:34] Yes.

[1:04:35] Well, early.

[1:04:37] No.

[1:04:37] Yes.

[1:04:38] Yes.

[1:04:41] Motion passes 70 and ordinance 2649 passes.

[1:04:46] Thank you.

[1:04:47] Our second item of business is the second and third reading of ordinance 2650, which is

[1:04:53] regulating bodily obstruction.

[1:04:55] Is there discussion on this specific piece of legislation?

[1:05:00] It's going to go to hand in hand with the previous one.

[1:05:05] I feel the same way about this one as I mentioned for the previous one.

[1:05:13] Thank you.

[1:05:14] Any further comments?

[1:05:19] Seeing that, I'll give move to suspend the rules of regulations and give second and third reading of ordinance 2650.

[1:05:26] I have a motion to suspend rules and regulations and give second and third reading to ordinance 2650.

[1:05:32] by Mr. Sleibahl, second by Mr. Nolz, Mr. Nolz.

[1:05:36] Roll call, please.

[1:05:37] Well, early.

[1:05:39] Yes.

[1:05:39] Nolz.

[1:05:40] Yes.

[1:05:40] German.

[1:05:41] Yes.

[1:05:41] Toliver.

[1:05:42] Yes.

[1:05:42] Sleibahl.

[1:05:43] Snark.

[1:05:45] Motion passes 6-1.

[1:05:46] May I have second and third reading by title only?

[1:05:49] Or in its O-2650, regulating bodily obstruction

[1:05:51] in or on public property?

[1:05:54] Thank you, and I'll move for passage of ordinance 2650, as a red.

[1:05:59] Second.

[1:05:59] I have a motion for passing the ordinance 2650 by Mr. Sleibahl, second by Mr. Early,

[1:06:04] roll call, please.

[1:06:05] Early?

[1:06:06] No.

[1:06:07] Yes.

[1:06:07] Garmin?

[1:06:08] Yes.

[1:06:08] Toliver?

[1:06:09] Yes.

[1:06:09] Sleibahl?

[1:06:10] Yes.

[1:06:10] Snor?

[1:06:11] Yes.

[1:06:11] Well.

[1:06:12] Yes.

[1:06:12] Motion passes 7-0.

[1:06:15] And ordinance 2650 passes.

[1:06:19] Thank you.

[1:06:19] And that's all we have for all business, Mr. President.

[1:06:22] All right.

[1:06:22] Thank you, Mr. Sleibahl.

[1:06:23] Public Works Enterprise Committee, Mr. Toliver.

[1:06:27] Nothing denied, Mr. President.

[1:06:28] Thank you, Mr. Tolver, and I'm moving to new business and back to Mr. Wells.

[1:06:34] The first side of the night is three readings on Resolution 2640, adopting an amended

[1:06:40] city of Wilmington policy on utility poll, replacement, and removal.

[1:06:46] We talked about this during a workshop, are there any questions?

[1:06:53] Any discussion?

[1:06:54] Okay, see you now, I'll move for the first reading, I'll resolution 2640 by title only.

[1:07:02] Second.

[1:07:03] I have a motion for first reading by title only, resolution 2640 by Mr. Wells.

[1:07:08] Second by Mr. Early, all in favor, signify by saying aye.

[1:07:13] I was like sign.

[1:07:15] You've seen no opposed.

[1:07:17] May I have first reading by title only of resolution 2640.

[1:07:30] On utility poll replacement and removal. I move for the suspension of rules and regulations to give the second and third reading by title only.

[1:07:39] Tag it. I have a motion for suspension of rules and regulations for second and third reading by title only, resolution 2640 by Mr. Wells, second by Mr. Nulls.

[1:07:49] No.

[1:07:51] German.

[1:07:51] Yes.

[1:07:52] Toler.

[1:07:52] Yes.

[1:07:53] Slaybough.

[1:07:54] Yes.

[1:07:55] Yes.

[1:07:56] Yes.

[1:07:57] Motion passes.

[1:07:58] 7.

[1:07:58] Zero.

[1:07:59] I have second and third reading.

[1:08:00] Resolution R2640.

[1:08:02] I move for a passage of resolution 2640.

[1:08:11] Second.

[1:08:12] I have a motion for passage by Mr. Wells.

[1:08:14] Second by Mr. Nulls.

[1:08:17] Roll.

[1:08:17] Garmin. Yes. Toliver. Yes. Slava. Yes. Snor. Yes. Well. Yes. Early. Yes. Snow. Yes. Motion passes 7-0. Resolution 2640 passes.

[1:08:31] Our second item is the first reading on Resolution 2641 adopting the city of Wilmickton transit system. Americans with disabilities act policy.

[1:08:41] And we've talked about this many times in the past.

[1:08:46] Are there any questions?

[1:08:49] Okay, see you then.

[1:08:50] I'll move for the first reading on Resolution 2641 by Title O.

[1:08:54] Second.

[1:08:56] I have a motion by Mr. Wells for first reading by Title O.

[1:09:00] Resolution 2641.

[1:09:02] I'm sorry, I did not catch the second.

[1:09:04] Is that Mr. Nose?

[1:09:05] All right.

[1:09:06] Second by Mr. Nose?

[1:09:07] All in favor of signifying by signifying?

[1:09:09] Aye.

[1:09:10] It's opposed like so.

[1:09:12] May I have first reading by title only a resolution 2641.

[1:09:16] Resolution R2641 adopting the city of Wilmington transit system,

[1:09:20] Americans with the Spillities Act policy.

[1:09:25] I need to ask the question, would you like to have just a second reading next meeting

[1:09:29] or second and third reading?

[1:09:31] Second reading.

[1:09:32] Second reading.

[1:09:33] Second reading.

[1:09:33] Like have that on the next meeting then.

[1:09:39] All right.

[1:09:39] Our third item is the first reading of resolution 2642.

[1:09:43] adopting a revised city of Wilmickton transit system drug and alcohol policy.

[1:09:50] We talked about this too, any questions on this?

[1:09:55] Seeing now, I'll move for the first reading, I'll resolution 2642 by title only, that's

[1:10:01] second.

[1:10:02] I have a motion for first reading, the resolution 2642 by Mr. Wells, the second by Mr.

[1:10:13] Opposed like sign may have first motion passes may have first reading of resolution 2642 by Title

[1:10:20] Only resolution R2642 adopting adopting a revised city of Wilmington transit system jogging out the whole policy

[1:10:28] And I'd also like to ask for the second reading at the next meeting

[1:10:33] That's all I have Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. Wells.

[1:10:37] Finance committee, Mr. Nulls. Yes, we have two pieces of legislation to bring forward tonight.

[1:10:42] First being ordinance 026-51 for supplemental appropriations.

[1:10:49] We discussed this during the workshop as well.

[1:10:54] Did you know if there are any more questions?

[1:10:56] Are you going to be a thought of anything?

[1:10:59] Tencent?

[1:11:00] Okay.

[1:11:01] Seeing none, I'd like to make a motion for first reading of ordinance 026-51 by title online.

[1:11:08] Second. I have a motion for first reading by title only of ordnance 2651 by Mr.

[1:11:15] Null, second by Mr. German, all in favor of signify by saying aye.

[1:11:19] Aye. Those are both like sign.

[1:11:21] May I have first reading of ordnance 2651 by title only?

[1:11:25] Ordnance 02651, supplemental appropriations.

[1:11:29] I can make a motion to suspend the rules and regulations and give the second

[1:11:33] during the meeting of ordinance 0-26-51 by title only.

[1:11:38] I have a motion to suspend rules and regulations for second and third reading of ordinance

[1:11:43] 2631 by Mr. Null, second by Mr. German, roll call please.

[1:11:47] Tolver, yes, Sleibau, yes, star, yes, well, yes, early, yes, no, yes, German, yes.

[1:11:54] Motion passes 7-0 may have second and third reading please.

[1:11:57] ordinance 0 2651 supplemental appropriations like to move for passage of ordinance 0 26

[1:12:04] dash 51.

[1:12:08] I have a motion for passage by Mr. Nulls a second by Mr. German roll call

[1:12:12] please. Slava. Yes. Snar. Yes. Well. Yes. Early. Yes. Nulls. Yes. German. Yes.

[1:12:19] Yes, motion passes 70 and resolution 26 or ordinance. I'm sorry 2651 passes. So that's the thing I have is ordinance 026-52 making

[1:12:33] miscellaneous transfers. This was for the Streets Department. He used F250 to replace one that is out of service.

[1:12:45] Thank questions on that.

[1:12:47] Good terms.

[1:12:48] Seeing none, I'd like to make a motion for first reading of ordinance O-26-52 by title only.

[1:12:56] That's second.

[1:12:57] I have a motion for first reading by title only of ordinance 2652 by Mr. Nulls.

[1:13:02] Second by Mr. Toliver.

[1:13:03] All in favor signify by saying aye.

[1:13:06] Those opposed like sign.

[1:13:08] May have first reading of ordinance 2652.

[1:13:10] ordinance 0 2652 miscellaneous transfers.

[1:13:15] Like to make a motion to suspend the rules and regulations and give second and third

[1:13:19] readings to ordinance 0-26-52 by title only.

[1:13:24] A second that motion.

[1:13:25] I have motion to suspend rules and regulations for second and third reading of ordinance 2652

[1:13:31] by title only by Mr. Null second by Mr. Toliver.

[1:13:34] Roll call please.

[1:13:35] NAR.

[1:13:36] Yes. Well.

[1:13:36] Yes.

[1:13:37] Early. Yes.

[1:13:38] Yes.

[1:13:39] German.

[1:13:39] Yes.

[1:13:40] Toliver.

[1:13:40] Yes.

[1:13:41] Yes.

[1:13:42] Motion passes 7-0.

[1:13:44] May have 2nd and 3rd reading.

[1:13:45] Please.

[1:13:45] Orange O-26-52.

[1:13:47] Missile.

[1:13:48] Like to make a motion for passage of ordinance O-26-52.

[1:13:54] A second.

[1:13:55] I have a motion for passage of ordinance 26-52 by Mr. Nulls.

[1:13:59] Second by Mr. Toliver.

[1:14:01] Roll call, please.

[1:14:01] Well.

[1:14:02] Yes.

[1:14:02] Early.

[1:14:03] Yes.

[1:14:05] Garmin Toliver. Yes, Slava. Yes, Snaar. Yes. Motion passes 7-0 and ordinance 2652 passes.

[1:14:13] That's all I had for the Finance Committee. Thank you, Mr. President.

[1:14:16] Thank you, Mr. Nulls. Mr. Slava back to Judiciary.

[1:14:20] Mr. President, we have two items and new business. The first one is three readings on Resolution 2643,

[1:14:26] which is the nature of services to be provided at 87 acres.

[1:14:31] Mrs. Moire gave us information on this during the public workshop.

[1:14:36] Is there any further questions or discussion on this resolution?

[1:14:44] Seeing not all move to get first reading by title only of Resolution 2643.

[1:14:50] I have a motion for first reading by title only of Resolution 2643 by Mr. Slayball.

[1:15:00] Dr. Nulls, all in favor of signify by saying aye. Those are both likes aye. May have first reading a resolution 2643 by title only.

[1:15:10] Resolution R 2643, a resolution regarding the nature of services to be provided to 87.38 acres located in the Union Township on parcel number 270080401 of said track to the city of Wilmington as required by the Ohio High Revised Code and declaring an emergency.

[1:15:31] Thank you, and I'll move to suspend the rules and regulations and give second-end third readings to Resolution 2643.

[1:15:38] Shagon.

[1:15:39] And I have a motion to suspend the rules and regulations for second and third reading the resolution.

[1:15:45] 2643 by Mr. Sleibahl, second by Mr. Knowles, roll call please.

[1:15:48] Early? Yes.

[1:15:50] Knowles? Yes.

[1:15:51] German? Yes.

[1:15:52] Toliver? Yes.

[1:15:53] Sleibahl? Yes.

[1:15:54] Snor? Yes. Well.

[1:15:56] Motion passes 7-0 may have second and third reading place resolution R2643 a resolution regarding the nature of services to be provided to 87.38 acres located in Union Township on parcel number

[1:16:15] 2700804 01010 upon an exascent of said track to the city of Wilmington as required by the Ohio Revise code and declaring an emergency

[1:16:26] Thank you.

[1:16:27] And I'll move for passage of resolution 2643 as a red.

[1:16:31] Second.

[1:16:32] I have a motion for passage of resolution 2643 by Mr.

[1:16:35] Slayballs.

[1:16:36] Second by Mr. Nulls.

[1:16:37] Roll call please.

[1:16:38] Nulls.

[1:16:39] Yes.

[1:16:39] German.

[1:16:39] Yes.

[1:16:40] Toliver.

[1:16:41] Yes.

[1:16:41] Slayball.

[1:16:42] Snor.

[1:16:43] Yes.

[1:16:43] Well.

[1:16:44] Yes.

[1:16:44] Early.

[1:16:45] Yes.

[1:16:46] Motion passes 7-0 and resolution 2643 passes.

[1:16:53] Thank you at our next item.

[1:16:54] is first reading only on Resolution 2644. This is regarding a transfer of a C-1-2 liquor permit to

[1:17:03] wall wall. I think we'll be getting more information on this forthcoming at our next meeting.

[1:17:10] Is there any further discussion before we have first reading? Seeing not, I'll move to give first reading

[1:17:16] by title only on Resolution 2644. Second. I have a motion for first reading by title only

[1:17:22] Resolution 2644 by Mr. Slayball, second by Mr. Nalls, all in favor, signify by saying aye.

[1:17:29] Aye.

[1:17:29] As opposed, like sign.

[1:17:31] May have first reading of Resolution 2644 by title only.

[1:17:36] Resolution R2644, a resolution authorizing the mayor to sign the economic development transfer form.

[1:17:42] directs allowing Wal-Waw Midwest LLC, Wal-Waw No. 7207, located at 5308, fields

[1:17:49] Erdogan Road, Cincinnati, Ohio to transfer a C1N2, like a permit to Wal-Waw

[1:17:55] Midwest LLC, Wal-Waw No. 7218, located at 294 Rombock Avenue in the city of

[1:18:12] at the next one, we only have 30 days to respond once we've given this, so we're going to make the cut off right at the next council meeting.

[1:18:26] Okay, so requesting second and third on our October 1st meeting, please.

[1:18:31] Thank you. That's all we have, Mr. Sheldon.

[1:18:33] All right, thank you, Mr. Sheldon. Public Works Enterprise Committee, Mr. Tolver.

[1:18:37] No new business Mr. President.

[1:18:40] Thank you, Mr. Tolver.

[1:18:42] Back around one more time reports of committees, city services, Mr. Wells.

[1:18:46] No report, Mr. President.

[1:18:48] Thank you, Mr. Wells.

[1:18:49] Finance Committee, Mr. Nulls.

[1:18:50] No report, Mr. President.

[1:18:52] Thank you, Mr. Nulls.

[1:18:53] Judiciary Committee, Mr. Sleba.

[1:18:55] No report, Mr. President.

[1:18:56] All right.

[1:18:57] Thank you, Mr. Sleba.

[1:18:58] Public Works, Mr. Tolver.

[1:19:00] No report, Mr. President.

[1:19:01] Thank you, Mr. Tolver.

[1:19:03] You have one report before you.

[1:19:05] It's the Auditors Report for August 2026, what's your pleasure?

[1:19:10] I do accept it as presented.

[1:19:12] I second that.

[1:19:13] I have a motion to accept the Auditor Report as presented by Mr. Wells.

[1:19:17] Second by Mr. Toliver, all in favor, signify by say aye.

[1:19:22] I'm going to go to the next slide.

[1:19:23] The Auditors Report for August 2026 is accepted.

[1:19:27] I'd like to make a motion for adjournment.

[1:19:30] Second.

[1:19:30] Now I have a motion to adjourn, I have a motion on the table, so back to me out of that,

[1:19:42] I don't get the chance to do that very often.

[1:19:45] Can we, can we like to make a motion to neglect my, my original motion of adjournment?

[1:19:57] we can we just vote it down yeah if we can let's just vote it down that

[1:20:03] that would work can we do a roll call quickly to on that motion to adjourn

[1:20:09] no

[1:20:13] no no no no no we shouldn't fail Mr. Crow we're

[1:20:27] making some progress on our

[1:20:30] tank camping and the obstruction and treatment first definitely the right move but we have

[1:20:43] other problems I've been dealing with for quite a while that I'm going to need help with.

[1:20:51] The issue is, where are we going to get to treatment so there's not very many places

[1:20:59] and town. And unfortunately, two of them, and I can't get too far into this, are not operating

[1:21:09] with a certificate of occupancy. So there's going to be some issues there. They're going

[1:21:15] to be before the BCA. There could be two less places for people to get this treatment.

[1:21:23] Our zoning code needs some work.

[1:21:27] We hired one individual to help us work on that.

[1:21:30] We didn't get to the point we needed to get to.

[1:21:34] We let him go.

[1:21:36] Now I'm trying to figure out where we're going to make a reasonable accommodation for these

[1:21:45] and facilities.

[1:21:47] How we're going to address this in our zoning code,

[1:21:52] we have some bad players that have moved

[1:21:55] into town and to buildings that are going this underground and illegally.

[1:22:03] We have some that I think, because of the code, probably didn't have much choice,

[1:22:14] but

[1:22:15] point. We've got the legislation. We're saying let's get treated my first. We're where and how are we going to make these.

[1:22:30] We're going to make these reasonable accommodations for these recovery places for them to get treatment.

[1:22:41] And how do we get it cleared up in the zoning code where they don't come in under the pretense that they're a group family or adult family home when they don't meet the definition?

[1:22:54] How do we deal with all of that to get these people to help?

[1:22:59] That is a fair question, and I will know, I believe, quite

[1:23:03] different from wrong, but I think the city of Newark first, it took them nine

[1:23:08] months from when they passed legislation until they had the home program in

[1:23:12] place, until they had people that were coming through treatment, and I think that

[1:23:16] would be the goal to get there. So I do know it's a process to implement that and

[1:23:23] put it in place and figure out how that's going to look, but I think that is

[1:23:27] the direction we want to be seeing.

[1:23:31] Thank you for raising this, you're right.

[1:23:33] You need to think about this quickly.

[1:23:35] When we were having discussion on the legislations,

[1:23:39] Chief Gibson said he had a list of people that he could put together

[1:23:44] that he could contact to help with that right now.

[1:23:47] Some of these people may not be in operation.

[1:23:49] I don't know who was on that list,

[1:23:52] but he had a list of people that he said he could put together for it.

[1:23:56] but they may not be operating with a certificate of occupancy right now.

[1:24:00] They may not be there for him to call him.

[1:24:03] I can.

[1:24:03] So we got to figure this out.

[1:24:06] I understand.

[1:24:07] And I'm just a service director.

[1:24:12] I need help.

[1:24:13] You understand?

[1:24:15] One of the, I guess, I didn't take it was just a limited

[1:24:20] to the city of one weekend.

[1:24:22] Well, it's not that what are we going to do here in a moment?

[1:24:29] Super great questions.

[1:24:31] I'm not going to go ahead.

[1:24:31] You're asking them because we know that this is the next step.

[1:24:34] Yeah, we know you need help.

[1:24:36] I was surprised a little bit when our last meeting, they said they had plenty of people to call.

[1:24:47] And I knew that we would probably be here at the next meeting.

[1:24:49] You may have some people to call, but we need even more than that.

[1:24:52] And there are several members on this council that are going to be working in a hope.

[1:24:56] You know, we're going to partner with the mayor's office as well to get the resources we need to push forward treatment first.

[1:25:03] Because that is the way it has to happen.

[1:25:04] But we realize you have to have the actual.

[1:25:08] And is there anything as a council we can do to help on the zoning front?

[1:25:14] I think my next step and I've got a draft legislation right now.

[1:25:21] We have to pick an area in town that is a reasonable accommodation where these are permitted uses.

[1:25:33] They're not coming in and trying to meet the definition of something they're not.

[1:25:38] I mean, we spell it out as an encode.

[1:25:39] It's a recovery home.

[1:25:43] How does our code describe a recovery home?

[1:25:47] Our code don't address it.

[1:25:48] So what they try to do is they try to come in and say they're in a no family help. Yeah, right?

[1:25:54] So can do do we as council tighten up what that means or does the zoning port tighten up what that means?

[1:26:03] We need to address it with the zoning, but we need

[1:26:07] Right now I'm trying to work with the law director

[1:26:10] It would be really nice to have an expert

[1:26:13] In zoning agreed that we could contract with they could help us

[1:26:19] figure this out,

[1:26:22] but we need to figure it out.

[1:26:24] Yes, sir.

[1:26:26] Because if we're saying I'm treating

[1:26:28] my first and I'm closing them down in the BCA,

[1:26:34] that's counterproductive.

[1:26:37] Instead of we have experts in mind,

[1:26:39] I don't, I don't know who to reach out to.

[1:26:42] At this point, I'm looking for the right person.

[1:26:47] Mr. Crow, the University of Cincinnati has a whole

[1:26:50] college, maybe we could reach out.

[1:26:53] It's the design architecture and planning, DAAP,

[1:26:57] and so they have planning majors that,

[1:27:01] so I assume there are then planning professors

[1:27:04] that would be experts in that field and up to date.

[1:27:11] Well, maybe our own law office,

[1:27:13] law director's office might be able to help with that search

[1:27:17] as well.

[1:27:18] having contacts with other, not just law offices, but cities, attorneys, I am working with the current law director, right?

[1:27:29] I'd be happy to throw out probably some names at some point if I could actually get approval to use an outside service for expertise.

[1:27:43] So at that point we would need to do a resolution I'm assuming for that.

[1:27:52] The law director needs to provide me.

[1:27:56] It probably goes in.

[1:27:58] The mayor's office is able to contract.

[1:28:01] So it would just come out of the consultant services line, which means we'd be doing.

[1:28:06] We would be supplementing that line again.

[1:28:09] So.

[1:28:09] That request though would not come from me.

[1:28:12] Yeah, we're coming through though.

[1:28:13] If we were wanting consulting services,

[1:28:17] that was one of the methods.

[1:28:19] If I could approach that, I have to get a little term

[1:28:22] a little bit of a term, and I'm going to talk about it.

[1:28:26] I don't know what I'm going to do with this.

[1:28:28] OK.

[1:28:32] If you are calling for this, and yes,

[1:28:35] you have already been able to do it in the United States.

[1:28:38] I don't know how to do it in the United States.

[1:28:40] Is that a special, is that someone with both a law degree and a planning degree that you're looking for?

[1:28:47] I think this is somebody that's, this well-versed in zoning.

[1:28:52] You know, we have a law department to help us with the legal endeavor between Desmond and Brooke.

[1:28:59] I just hate to, I hate for Sam and I to come up with, we're going to put reasonable accommodations in this section of town and bring it before you.

[1:29:08] And I'm not an expert in where the choices should be.

[1:29:14] I would prefer to have somebody that really knows where these places fit, you know, where they,

[1:29:24] you know, from what I understand in a reasonable accommodation there has to be a certain amount of housing in that zone at their end.

[1:29:32] They have to have access with probably within walking distance to places that can work, to treatment facilities.

[1:29:44] We just, we need to find the right spot.

[1:29:47] I think we need to do this all together.

[1:29:52] Instead of me just trying to figure out and then break something to you.

[1:29:55] Absolutely agree.

[1:29:59] Yeah.

[1:29:59] Mr. Star.

[1:30:00] Have time in the next workshop to bring in some of the local experts that just explained to us what's available, what do they need, where do we send people out of town?

[1:30:10] I know that there are agencies in town that send a lot of people out of town to homes and that sort of thing.

[1:30:17] We just understood the situation better. I don't know if we have time for that or not. Next workshop.

[1:30:23] It depends on where the police department lands, but yes, give us the contact and we'll see what we can.

[1:30:30] see what we can come up with.

[1:30:32] So I don't have chief gifts in here to.

[1:30:34] Good idea.

[1:30:35] He may take both of those next.

[1:30:37] Next time, so it might be a month away.

[1:30:40] I just want to get the conversation started.

[1:30:42] Thank you, Mike.

[1:30:43] Thank you.

[1:30:44] Was there another comment or question?

[1:30:49] Is there any further business for the city you want to?

[1:30:54] All right.

[1:30:55] Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

[1:30:58] Let's move.

[1:31:00] Is there a second?

[1:31:01] And a second.

[1:31:02] Mr. Noll's moved to adjourn.

[1:31:04] Mr. early seconded.

[1:31:06] We are adjourned.

[1:31:09] All right, move out.

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