[0:02] Good evening, everyone.

[0:07] Thank

[0:12] you. Mike is in the audience, but I don't think he's at his desk.

[0:19] Now he's doing it, he's coming on now.

[0:25] And then when you're all set, I will start the recording.

[0:29] Okay.

[0:32] Mike, in the show, Bill, Bill, I'm correct. You are possibly going through security in the airport right now?

[0:41] Yes, just stepping up to the piano right now.

[0:45] Okay.

[0:45] So we expect you may drop off for a sec and come back.

[0:51] So in Bill's absence, we may need someone to read the motions that are in the

[0:55] panel.

[0:57] Well, he's going through.

[1:00] All right.

[1:00] Good evening.

[1:01] Everyone.

[1:01] Welcome to the Monday August 10th.

[1:05] Thank you.

[1:05] Yes.

[1:06] Sorry, Patty.

[1:08] Sorry, I've been ahead of myself recording my progress.

[1:15] Good evening everyone. Welcome to the Monday. I guess time select board meeting.

[1:20] I'm Chair and the Afraidy. We're joined by Vice Chair Bill Muthanigalain members.

[1:24] My Patent Court, Michelle Prior, and our town manager, Christina.

[1:30] So we will roll right into the agenda. We'll start with our consent agenda.

[1:38] move to approve the consent agenda for Monday August 10th.

[1:45] Okay.

[1:46] Roll call Michelle.

[1:48] Yes.

[1:49] Nice.

[1:51] Bill.

[1:52] Aye.

[1:53] Aye.

[1:57] Next up we have several donations and grants that has been received by the Tom for us to accept.

[2:04] Would you like the one big motion, Anthony?

[2:08] Yeah, what we've done is done it as one large motion and then just do a single vote on it.

[2:17] Just catch up.

[2:18] Move to be approve a grant in the amount of, well, six, six, five thousand eight hundred twenty six dollars from the state nine one one support incentive grant to the police department.

[2:35] A grant of $10,299 and $36 from the State 911 training grant for the police department.

[2:45] A independence formula of $86,368 to the Council on Aging from the State Office of Aging and the Dependence.

[2:53] A donation of $1200 from Sunny Hamansu to the Recreation Department gift fund for supplies at Pack Rail's Tennis Courts.

[2:59] A donation of $750 from the Winchester Cooperative Bank to support the Recreation Department's concert on the common series.

[3:06] A donation of $600 from the Winchester Savings Bank to the Recreation Department gift fund for supplies at Packrell's Ten Scorts or any other purpose.

[3:14] A donation of $600 from Melinda, Google Yeta on behalf of Beesfolk Woodwright's LLC, the purposes of supplies at Packrell's Ten Scorts,

[3:22] used any of the purpose from the recreation gift account. We'll be

[3:26] accepting all those donations as red.

[3:31] Well, call that Michelle. Yes.

[3:34] Yes.

[3:36] Hi.

[3:37] Okay.

[3:38] Can I go in?

[3:39] Sorry.

[3:40] I just need to make one correction on that.

[3:43] The donation from be spoke with rights with actually $600, not $60.

[3:50] amended to, let's see, $600,

[3:56] okay? On behalf of Beespoke Woodrise LLC. Thank you.

[4:04] Do we need to reveal that, Antia?

[4:07] I don't know, but we can. So I'm on the second second.

[4:11] Second. Okay. Michelle? Yes.

[4:14] like. Yes. Bill. All right. Thank you. Patty. We have some time for public comment.

[4:25] If there's anyone on, if we'd like to make public comment, please go ahead and raise

[4:29] our hand and Patty can elevate you.

[4:37] There is none. Let's give it generous pause. So we can move

[4:43] to the time manager's report, and so we'll turn it over to Chris for that.

[4:49] Okay.

[4:50] I actually have three appointments tonight, two are new.

[4:53] Higher spelling baking positions, and one is a promotion.

[4:57] Linda Fradis is coming on board as our new HR benefits coordinator.

[5:02] And Michael Mac and his joining us at school to study, and they're both

[5:04] spelling positions that we're vacant and budgeted.

[5:07] And Richard Longo is going to be a promoted to a supervisory

[5:11] the government, he's been with the public arms for 19 years, that's the promotion of

[5:15] explainability.

[5:15] See, it was created by recent retirement.

[5:18] And I've asked the board to weigh the 15 day waiting period on all three of those.

[5:26] Okay.

[5:27] Move that we wave the 15 day appointment period for town manager appointments of

[5:34] catch them again.

[5:36] Yeah, I'm going to spell them out of four of them in the

[5:39] greatest Michael Mac and then.

[5:42] Thank

[5:44] you for 15 a.m. for Richard Longo, Michael Maclin and Linda

[5:52] Pretus.

[5:54] Say it.

[5:55] Welcome about Michelle.

[5:57] Yes.

[5:57] Mike.

[5:59] Bill.

[6:00] I have some breaking news tonight on the Saturday on there was a

[6:07] of being break and winch us to place the ceiling. That's the street that's right. I'll

[6:12] use your bank and the police department. The public works has been at that all afternoon.

[6:18] It's a 1915 cast I may in right now on the implicit fire department, so without water,

[6:24] it's your bank. There's set of homes in the back there and then eight winch us to place, which is

[6:30] the building kind of be back there. So the public works will be working probably to the

[6:35] on this one because they have to process fairly extensive piece of pipe at least when I saw

[6:40] Bob and his team was seen about an hour and a half ago they weren't. So investigating the

[6:44] entire length of pipe that had to be placed as a crack in the pipe that had to be a pressure change that

[6:50] happened. I don't expected pressure change there so but it's been walled off so it's only

[6:55] affecting that area. So because I'll be the working on that I can hopefully have one of that

[7:04] and then things, the Crest Street Bridge continue, the work continues there, it's on target.

[7:12] So hopefully that will continue and be done, fingers crossed maybe early, but we do expect

[7:18] that it wants the traffic patterns change in the fall that we'll have to bump up the police details.

[7:25] It's a traditional strapping that's me down the roads to a crazy moment of love.

[7:30] Public comment bid.

[8:00] acquired those should be installed, hopefully in the next week or so, which will help guide people through

[8:06] the proper way.

[8:10] And I mean, the Marko Covert project is ongoing. It has to be in the sixth

[8:14] at staying on target. They've had to do a couple of Saturday, early or hours. And the student

[8:20] in the second conference, supposed to be happening this week. And that's been dry so they should be

[8:24] okay. And that will keep them going so that they're on a target for when they have to

[8:29] the major work which we'll take place until later in the year.

[8:35] That's where I want to end just quickly.

[8:38] So my office and I know it's August and I hate to say the full time it is coming.

[8:42] The full time it is coming.

[8:44] Perhaps I already done Saturday.

[8:48] I notice that I'm not going to tend to be asked.

[8:50] All departments, all committees.

[8:52] If they have something going more, I would like to have about August 28.

[8:56] Just so we stay ahead of the game.

[8:57] the actual deadline is not till September, but we want to stay a little bit ahead of that.

[9:01] We've already gotten a number of things back, which is great.

[9:04] So I'll be playing that together and sharing a preliminary draft probably on September 14th.

[9:11] But we're working internally just to make sure we have everything together.

[9:15] There's always possible.

[9:18] And there is a potential, well, it's going to be a tree area where scheduling for the 24th, which is next to meeting scheduled

[9:26] before a tree at 6, 12, 18, that's right by the tight-chain restaurant. So it was posted,

[9:30] D.B.W.A. here I knew it was opposition to that here at that module. So, and now the

[9:35] falsehoods like we're gathering information as all in packaging information together. And

[9:40] that made me with a display access condition because we're the primary issues here is access

[9:45] to any disabled parking space in maneuvering around that tree. So, they're getting

[9:50] to us as well, perhaps that's a test of them for the 24th meeting.

[9:59] Thank you, sir.

[10:00] I mean, shall I see a couple of questions for Chris?

[10:03] Thank you.

[10:05] So, Chris, on the, I'll go on a reverse order for the town meeting,

[10:09] notice of intent is that it's not binding.

[10:14] I imagine the warrant closes when it closes is just a volume type.

[10:18] Trying to get a level of effort estimate.

[10:21] Yeah, I used to do this in class, I'm just going to encourage people to get information on

[10:25] terms early and to think about it. So we're getting stuff at the last minute. And again,

[10:31] this routine articles that I was on the warrant, like, spaces on the first paper

[10:35] were small, which is great. And like, don't worry those days all in the poll that weren't

[10:38] anybody, all the question are in a capital articles that are not there. This is more for,

[10:44] just, it's not that it's just things that are unusual or not regular and I want to get as much

[10:49] or the access to those as possible.

[10:51] So if you have a pretty good feedback slide.

[10:54] OK, OK, and next question is related to the Morocco culvert.

[10:58] So it sounds like things are on schedule.

[11:01] Any concerns on cost at this point are we sort of within budget?

[11:06] As far as I've been told by the project manager,

[11:09] since I'm budget at the moment, I mean, the project would

[11:12] go up because of the delays of the changes of the T-force

[11:15] on the project, but everything so far,

[11:18] is to be working with him but it's still okay. And then the other part to that is the sort of,

[11:25] you know, serious digging and transporting the dirt along the right of way through the soccer

[11:30] parking lot is that timed to only begin after all the work at the Cross Street Bridges completed

[11:38] because currently I think the T is using some of that space as their own laid-out space, which is the path

[11:43] we have to use to move the dirt off site. Yes, in fact. So we weren't scheduled to do that

[11:49] once in November. So the T, so as they stay on their schedule should be done weeks ahead of

[11:56] one need to get access to it. So there's a, there's a, there's a ton of one or issue,

[12:01] one of their radio and third issues for us to get in there and the government. So it's right now

[12:06] that the schedule should sink. That's one of the coordination issues we have with the T and the

[12:11] our project was not going to be impacted by the right now at the chewy thing.

[12:16] Okay.

[12:18] Thank you.

[12:23] Mike, any questions?

[12:28] And Bill, welcome back.

[12:30] Chris just went through his report.

[12:31] I know you miss that.

[12:32] So if you had any questions in reading it,

[12:36] feel free to jump in.

[12:38] Otherwise, one with a long end,

[12:41] we can capture that.

[12:42] No questions, let's move along.

[12:45] All right.

[12:46] So, the next thing we have on the agenda is a presentation of a Wayfinding

[12:51] presentation from Taylor Hermann, who is our top planner,

[12:58] so if we have Taylor coming in,

[13:01] can bring him up and I don't know is there anyone else on who's presenting with him?

[13:09] No, I don't say anyone that would be going with him.

[13:17] Did he make a room?

[13:18] Taylor, I also made it so that you can share.

[13:24] Okay, great.

[13:39] All right, good evening, everyone.

[13:40] Thank you for your patience and me getting set up.

[13:43] I'm also sorry to take up so many pages in your packet.

[13:47] A lot of it is mostly just in informative.

[13:51] Attached were two presentations.

[13:54] The first being, the downtown, which is the way finding guide

[13:56] and the second being, the branding guide.

[14:00] The Miranda Guy was included as just as a informative reminder, that was done last year as a part of the economic development study.

[14:10] It hasn't been implemented in any way, and what hasn't really been discussed.

[14:16] But it's really just there as a reminder that that is there on a shelf somewhere if it's something that we want to proceed with.

[14:25] But the main purpose of the, of the presentation tonight is just bring you up to speed

[14:32] on the downtown Winchester, way of finding guide, which was conducted by the planning

[14:42] department, see I, all my good, good, cloud stuff, you can, so this was conducted by the Winchester

[14:51] planning department in the works with Dana Garmin from the Chamber of Commerce, and

[14:56] he'll do one from Winchester Arts. This was a...

[15:00] A grant funded project from the Mass Downtown Initiative. I'm not going to go through everything here. I'm going to just take a few minutes through time. You can ask in the questions if you have them.

[15:13] So the purpose of this was to really try to look at all the signs that we have, particularly downtown, but also around town, with a specific eye of supporting downtowns,

[15:25] interest, the Winchester downtown's unique identity, provide consistent municipal signage

[15:31] to the public realm, contribute to the historic style of downtown and identify municipal

[15:39] buildings and amenities. There are many other goals and purposes here, but the primary,

[15:44] those were the primary goals of this project. As you can see, some of the existing conditions

[15:50] you maybe familiar with with the signs, the one outside Winchester town hall today is faded,

[15:57] that day, that one time used to be read, I believe. It's kind of now a pinkish perp, a pinkish

[16:02] perpillish. The welcome to Winchester sign is in the rotary. We actually question a lot of people

[16:10] on this. A lot of people didn't even know that was there. And we don't know if those phone numbers

[16:14] are even active.

[16:15] So just kind of an interesting thing

[16:17] of some of the signage in town, now.

[16:22] Hilda and Winchester Arts has been doing

[16:23] a lot of work, creating an artistic walkway downtown

[16:29] and the signs are supposed to kind of keep in line with that.

[16:33] There are also future opportunities

[16:34] for adding more signs, but really for tonight,

[16:37] let's focus on the main signs, the existing ones,

[16:41] and what it means for a potential replacement.

[16:47] We did look at other examples,

[16:52] other more modern examples, historic examples,

[16:55] but really with the work from the Winchester,

[16:58] from the Design Review Committee, Chamber of Commerce,

[17:01] Historical Commission, Winchester Planning Board,

[17:03] and Arts Winchester.

[17:05] These are the signs that we landed on.

[17:08] There were two separate options.

[17:10] Blue was the primary color and many different signs type from directional parking, kiosk,

[17:21] notification of buildings, and welcome to downtown.

[17:25] There were a bunch of different sign types that were included.

[17:30] Here is the final design suite.

[17:33] It's it's it's it's in your packet. This was really the overwhelming choice. There were some suggestions by by by by some by some people, but this was really the the overwhelming choice by most people in the community.

[17:47] We have proposed additional signage, but really the focus is just the the the existing signage.

[17:56] These next slides go to each sign one by one, but really I want to skip through this and really tell you what the goal of this is.

[18:06] We're not requesting any action from you. We're not asking for anything. We're not even asking for any money.

[18:12] What we're telling you is what we have here is a plan for when signs need to be replaced.

[18:18] For example, the sign in front of GIN field, I believe, is still been knocked down and not replaced.

[18:26] We have a plan that we can use to replace the signs if, if we needed.

[18:33] The main reason I added the brand guideline is because some of this was done with the new branding.

[18:41] But that's interchangeable.

[18:42] We can use the existing branding, the existing seal, there's no reason not to.

[18:49] I will just go down to the bottom here, one of the last page.

[18:52] If we were to redo all of the signs as put into this plan, at one time, the cost would

[19:01] be $116,000.

[19:04] Again, not really proposing that we do that, or that that happens, we will continue to seek

[19:10] grant opportunities for this, for installing them, maybe that will be easier for one off.

[19:17] But the goal here was really to create cohesion with future signage, improve them, make

[19:23] them accessible, and kind of match the character of downtown. So that is what we attempted to do

[19:31] with with this plan. And if anything, it was a good study to get people together and start thinking

[19:37] about design and way of finding downtown.

[19:41] I quite enjoyed this one.

[19:44] So whenever we got out of it, I at least had fun.

[19:48] So open up to any questions we have.

[19:53] Mike, I just want to say thank you Taylor.

[19:56] This is excellent.

[19:57] I know that there's been a lot of hard work here.

[20:00] And I think that the final design is great.

[20:05] And I think that the existing ones have been there probably

[20:07] for 10 years or so, and we last did this, and so, yeah, they are in pretty rough shape,

[20:14] particularly the town hall one, which looks, I don't know if it's just paint peeling,

[20:18] or it was like, they analyze or something, so it looks great. I mean, certainly if there's anything

[20:24] that you, from us, I think, that it's important that we get this done as soon as possible.

[20:31] The question I had was around lighting of the signs, do we need to upgrade any electrical or lighting

[20:36] fruit leaves as well. When we did our search around, we didn't find that many

[20:45] science that had lighting. There were a few, and I don't know, call exactly

[20:49] which ones they were, but they weren't that many. Because the town hall one, if

[20:53] it doesn't have the lead, the town that does it, does it? I think the library

[20:58] had no idea. I think the library one does. Okay.

[21:03] But it's a good question. That

[21:04] would add costs that we did not think of.

[21:08] Yeah, I think it would be only worth it to address that now.

[21:15] Thank you very much.

[21:16] Yeah, hey Taylor.

[21:18] So the mix of signs that you have kind of the prices for

[21:22] and town hall, obviously is a candidate.

[21:24] Do you have a sense of how many of those need to be replaced soon?

[21:29] I understand it sort of as they fall down, knock down, get vandalized.

[21:32] But do you have any that you think need to be replaced in that sort of $3,000 sign, $6,000 or $1,000?

[21:38] You have the count. But what would you think is kind of like the rate at which you need to identify

[21:44] funding? Is it to re-replace in a year? Because you may not want to place them all. Because you might want

[21:49] to people get used to the new font and things. But do you have a sense of what that is?

[21:53] Yeah. So right now we did look at, we did do an audit of all of them. None of them need to be replaced

[21:59] are right now. They're all structurally sound if they're not going to fall down on anyone.

[22:03] I actually don't quote me on that. We don't believe that there's any issue. Again, field is

[22:10] the only one that should be replaced now. However, the ones like the ones at the library,

[22:16] the ones at Town Hall, the ones in front of the public safety building, those three are kind of

[22:21] the most central and most important ones in the study. So we may elect to replace those more.

[22:28] Those are the... these...

[22:30] One's down here, these larger ones.

[22:34] And those would be kind of if we want to get the most out

[22:39] of this right now, we replace those. And then I really do believe that there are grant opportunities

[22:46] if we want to say let's do all the parking signs this year. And then we'll focus on the downtown

[22:53] way of finding signs next year. I think that that would probably be a reasonable approach from a financial

[22:58] situation.

[23:04] Thanks, Taylor. We're all set, Michelle. Yeah, that's helpful. Thanks, Taylor.

[23:11] You know, I know that there are a lot of state grants for these kinds of things,

[23:16] but it can take a little while. I don't know if it helps if we match it or contribute towards

[23:27] All of these signs to get it done, like from our hospital gift account or from, you know, one of the select board accounts where we have funds.

[23:35] I don't know that we've got all of it in there, but certainly, I think some of the state grants like to see that the

[23:44] the municipality is contributing as well.

[23:50] That's good enough.

[23:56] Thank you Taylor. I had a quick question just about, but then make up on the size that my talk about lighting got me thinking are they reflective or they kind of like our street signs where if you drive past them.

[24:12] That will eliminate where are they.

[24:16] I'm just thinking they're pretty dark so like would you be able to see them?

[24:21] we don't have backlighting on them. So there's no backlighting involved. So any lighting would have to be

[24:26] just have to be illuminated from the front or above. One thing that we did have to consider when

[24:32] we're getting the quote is that they did have to be compliant with roadway signage because they're

[24:37] going to be on the roads or you know if it's going to be on the road or if it's going to be on

[24:41] quote roadway or I don't want to make sure people see it and don't run into it. So so they were at least

[24:47] to the reflective nature of that, but any additional lighting would have to come from a different source.

[24:55] Yeah, no, that was just my question about the reflective, it'd kind of be like a street sign

[25:00] where you would see that parking sign if you're coming in in the evening. Yeah, the lettering show is

[25:08] as white, but it's kind of more silvery, not like silvery, silver, silver, but kind of that

[25:13] reflective silvery.

[25:19] Thank you.

[25:22] Bill, any questions from you?

[25:25] You're the.

[25:25] No questions.

[25:26] The packet was very thorough.

[25:28] Thank you, Taylor.

[25:30] Thank you, Bill.

[25:35] So sounds like Taylor there is just a request or an interest in knowing if there's pursuing

[25:43] grant money,

[25:46] any collaboration there, and then as well as timing. If I can feel

[25:51] sign, it's going to be replaced for things like that to be aware of that, but

[25:57] appreciate through the detail information that you shared on the way of finding

[26:00] as well as the branding information, and we'll look forward to kind of seeing

[26:06] where this is next.

[26:08] Great. Thank you very much. I appreciate the time.

[26:11] Thank you.

[26:13] You too.

[26:17] All right.

[26:19] So next up we have a number of committee and commission appointments.

[26:25] They see and just looking to see.

[26:32] I see a handful in.

[26:36] In the room here, I think we're waiting for one more. So I know we start with.

[26:40] We'll just go in order. We'll start with the cable advisory reappointment.

[26:46] We have one in comment seeking reappointment on the cable advisory committee.

[26:57] I move that we appoint incumbent for easy for a term expiring June 30th, 29th, the cable advisory committee.

[27:08] So I can. Any discussion?

[27:17] We'll call about Mike.

[27:19] Yeah. Michelle? Yes.

[27:22] So. Ice.

[27:24] I don't know. So it's all.

[27:27] Next we have three.

[27:31] Three positions on the cultural council.

[27:33] And these are all incumbent seeking re-appointment for.

[27:37] for your turn. I move that we end point incumbents, Cerecola, Patricia Gannon, and

[27:47] Janette Kojay for terms expiring July 31st, 29th to the cultural council.

[27:54] Second.

[27:57] Okay. Roll called out Mike? Yes. Michelle? Yes. Bill? Aye. I will.

[28:03] This is

[28:07] a patty, have we heard from Akshaya Live?

[28:15] Yes, she said she was coming, but I don't fear here.

[28:19] See, okay, so we'll hold on that next cultural council.

[28:25] A appointment, and we'll go to long range financial planning.

[28:30] So we have Jean-Baptiste de la Barth,

[28:33] who's a private position on the long range financial planning committee.

[28:38] Yeah, let me move on.

[28:54] We'll do it up to now.

[28:57] We're in our good evening, welcome.

[29:01] So if we want to have you first, thank you for applying

[29:04] to the Long Range Financial Planning Committee.

[29:08] We'd love to have you give an overview of your background

[29:12] and your interest in the position.

[29:14] And if you could just start off also with just your name

[29:18] and your address where our work is.

[29:21] help. Thank you for the opportunity. I'm Jean Baptiste de la Barte. I live on 22 years

[29:26] straight in Winchester. The reasons why I applied, so I've been a resident of Winchester for

[29:34] five years. I'm a homeowner here. I have pockets in the public school systems. Two, I know

[29:40] record inventory school, one in Macau, one in high school. So I have a vested interest in knowing

[29:45] what's happening in Winchester and making sure the tax, failure, money, and

[29:52] I would add to that that I've been looking for a while to give back to the community and I've had a little bit with me.

[30:00] I call with different places, but this one felt, especially complaining to me because I built long-range planning for living and I've been working in finance for almost 20 years now.

[30:12] When people asked me, in my company to describe myself, I tell them I'm Mr. L.A.P. and that's pretty much what I do. I was here, I've been doing for now almost five years and I was doing the following other places.

[30:23] So, I want to keep it short because I'm sure you have questions and I don't know how long we have, but in a nutshell, that's the reason why we're looking to it.

[30:33] Thank you.

[30:34] Why don't we take questions?

[30:36] I just just thought you're on my screen.

[30:38] Mike, Michelle, and then Bill.

[30:40] I can go last.

[30:44] Thanks, Cynthia.

[30:44] And thank you.

[30:46] Michelle, I'm about to use for applying for this position.

[30:49] As you know, we're just starting to put together this committee.

[30:52] and it is what it says it is, it's really a long range outlook, and it certainly sounds like you're here qualified.

[31:02] My only question really is, do you think you would have any sort of professional conflicts with making recommendations to the town or involved in municipal borrowing recommendations or anything like that?

[31:17] Thank you. That's a fair question. No, I don't think so. We are actually working completely different ventures.

[31:26] We don't extend any loan. If anything, we work with banks to get loans.

[31:31] I'm not in the team that signs the venture debt anyways after we take.

[31:36] So I wouldn't have, even if I wanted to, I couldn't negotiate that. I get a benefit for Winchester,

[31:41] something attractive of myself. So that's not the case. I'm trying to think it's a really good question

[31:47] as to where they could be conflict of interest.

[31:52] Naturally, to be honest, I do have several colleagues

[31:55] who live in Winchester and they don't know. I don't tell them that we're talking tonight. In that sense,

[32:01] maybe that's another word where they could push an agenda. That's the only reason they do really.

[32:06] Okay, great. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

[32:11] I think I go next. So my question would be, within your work at flagship or in your career, have you done a, you know, do you have experience in clients with municipalities, you know, cities, towns in Massachusetts or beyond where you're advising, managing debt packaging up bonds or sales and just curious to anything that's specific to what we, one of the things we do here.

[32:36] No, absolutely. Thank you for the question. I do not. And I tried to put it in the application as clearly as possible.

[32:43] I do not have experience in municipality finances. What I would say for my defense, you know, is a, I think the structure of the committee itself kind of bridges the gap because there are seven members in the committee and many of them who is this experience.

[32:57] The second thing I would put forth is throughout my career, and if you look at my resume, I'm happy to go through the background, but I don't want to bore you, please.

[33:06] I love that, but I studied my career in India, then I moved to China, I worked in France for a few years, where I studied and went from.

[33:13] I've been in the US now for more than 10 years, I became a US citizen for two years, and I worked in different industries.

[33:21] So the idea of getting into something new and learning, and I hope learning quickly is something I've done several times successful in the past, but this is a new territory for me

[33:31] I've done a lot of research in the last few days after our application to get to understand better how it works for Winchester

[33:38] I'm trying to understand the magnitude of revenues and span and what's up. Thank you, especially since you were right

[33:44] votes earlier this year, but it is something that we need to learn from you guys and from other sources

[33:52] Thank you.

[33:56] Do you have any questions?

[33:59] Nope.

[33:59] Very strong.

[34:00] Mr.

[34:01] That piece.

[34:02] Thank you very much for applying.

[34:03] I look forward to working with you.

[34:04] Thank you.

[34:08] I just have been one question.

[34:12] As you think about sort of this committee and your background.

[34:18] Is there an area where you think that you might really like?

[34:26] either want to get to know better and sort of dig in and become very familiar with or is there an area where you'd be really comfortable taking something on and running with it.

[34:40] So it might be content related, it might be more operational, but just curious what that would be.

[34:46] Thank you.

[34:50] What I think I bring to that committee, if you decide that I can volunteer and I can help you, is more operational as to how we build the model and how we look at different time horizons, one years, three, as well.

[35:01] 10 years. The key is really to what I'm aspiring to do at work and I would be

[35:09] transposing to Winchester is how do we bring facts? If I look back at the overall

[35:14] company for instance, as a citizen who hasn't, I didn't work here, it was difficult to get

[35:23] to let us start facts. How much are we talking about? Does it involve with probably three

[35:27] two kids in Morocco does it include the renovation of Morocco, does it not like I

[35:32] found it? I can't say frustrating is too strong but difficult and challenging to get

[35:36] answers to those questions. And even after the vote I could see talking to friends and

[35:41] neighbors and the community that many people were still confused at other votes. So what

[35:44] did we really vote for and what does it mean for the city? So that's what I would bring. It's

[35:49] really, I'm a strong believer that that are wins arguments. And in a community that

[35:55] register where people are so proud of getting here and I was told before moving here from

[36:00] metaphor to be the full black hole when people come to interest as anybody which is a good thing

[36:05] it means people are happy here but we should be able to agree on at least the facts we're discussing

[36:10] and that's really what I want to bring as much as possible. It's a transparency. I don't think I would make

[36:17] recommendations, at least initially I'm here to learn, I'm here to listen, I'm here to, I need to

[36:22] very understand, but to the extent that this committee and the

[36:27] friends committee will decide to bring things to the public attention how can we bring

[36:32] things in a way that are not debutable when it just like amongst the last

[36:36] decisions. That's really what I'm working to bring. Thank you. All right. Any further questions

[36:43] from the board?

[36:49] Any questions that you have for us? I've just started asking. Yeah, but keep it

[36:56] One is, how do you see, so I understand budget 237 has studied and has been related.

[37:03] What kind of, like, how do you see the deliverables short-term in the current fiscal year,

[37:10] and preparing for the next fiscal exercise?

[37:14] Michelle, do you want to take out or Chris, are there any very specific pieces that are already in process with the insurance budget?

[37:24] Yep, so I can talk and then Chris you should chime in so in terms of you know key kind of key work

[37:30] Where Chris is going through, well, we're looking at all of our capital costs as part of our general capital cycle.

[37:37] We are, um, so life-forward is looking at some long-term health insurance costs and, and, and, and Chris is pursuing some areas to potentially bend that cost curve.

[37:47] There's mother initiatives around revenue. So, where we are right now, um, we don't, we'll have to have the comptroller come in soon, but we haven't closed out the fiscal year June 30.

[37:58] there's still some text recap and other work.

[38:01] So see where we ended that year, relative to investments,

[38:04] excess revenue, costs, et cetera.

[38:07] That will be the foundation of where the manager

[38:10] will start to build from.

[38:11] So we know what we can level in the property text,

[38:13] bill, but is there any sort of patterns on revenue

[38:15] that looks to be favorable and everything

[38:17] that are just really volatile?

[38:19] So that work is happening.

[38:22] And we're some of the folks who are on this committee

[38:24] that one of the couple of the at-large members

[38:27] who made, like, on the model, we all had a walkthrough of the model on July 29 with Paris.

[38:32] So the kind of financial model, the manager has his own budget. And certainly, I think it's

[38:37] the goal is to have this long-term plan be something that the manager's office might own long-term,

[38:42] but Chris, please chime in with, you know, that kind of the current work that's happening and looking

[38:46] at assumptions for next year. Those are just the highlights that come to mind for me, but please

[38:52] had to do it if you could. So we're always kind of looking at the year we just finished the

[38:58] year in and we were going. So you know, when are we finished, where were the signs, where are we

[39:03] today and where it was, they always looked down on a little bit. It's always hard to project to for

[39:09] hand. We were kind of a lag, local government's kind of a lag in terms of revenue and even

[39:15] that, you know, we would get hit with costs like people,

[39:18] but even when the pandemic came,

[39:21] we kind of, you know,

[39:22] revenue slowed and then came back,

[39:24] bumping later, and as Michelle Quinn,

[39:27] and you're always, our progress over

[39:29] being as cost to our healthcare is part of that.

[39:31] It's all like, you know, we do everything

[39:32] we can at the local level, it's hard,

[39:34] that's really something that has to be bent,

[39:36] I think at the higher level, what we talk,

[39:38] I was literally exchanging emails with harm,

[39:41] our representative of that Medicare,

[39:43] 45 minutes before the meeting.

[39:44] So it's something we're always looking at.

[39:48] We're looking at ways to find non-tax revenues,

[39:51] non-public companies, whether it's fees or other things

[39:55] that we can generate.

[39:57] We're watching what we can do with the state.

[39:59] Can we leverage grants or other opportunities?

[40:01] Can we share services or things across the borders?

[40:06] And we're also looking at cost pressures.

[40:09] What is the time to mandate?

[40:12] Are there more, there's our population growing

[40:14] in a particular area or another area,

[40:16] or is there any increase in service costs?

[40:20] And one of the things we always look at too

[40:22] is how could there be other ways we could provide services

[40:24] differently and more creatively or if you have a CDL license

[40:30] these days, you can, you were at a mid,

[40:33] I was just talking to Bob about his Bob,

[40:36] we'll bus here, pull the rest after this morning

[40:38] about his inability to find people who can clap,

[40:40] streets, so things like that,

[40:43] And, you know, we have the pilot, right?

[40:45] So, you know, Lexington tripled everyone's price

[40:49] on a certain element of that.

[40:50] So they can get what they needed and no one could match that.

[40:54] And so, you look at those things.

[40:55] You know, like, well, we have to class snowy.

[40:57] We have to clear snow.

[40:58] So, I think we also have to, you know, be creative about living

[41:03] with our means of finding ways to be creative amongst the departments.

[41:07] Government doesn't need to be silent.

[41:08] I know the schools have their elements that are close schools.

[41:10] on this misunderstanding, but I think it's weird that we have to do more creative stuff

[41:15] behind the scenes. I think we're trying to have those conversations. And again, it's

[41:21] important fundamentally what people expect is residents and what they're willing to pay for,

[41:27] because that's fundamentally what drives this right. We need to present a bunch of this bounced,

[41:32] and that's going to be the conversation this fall. We have to just agree on whether you

[41:36] numbers are going to come in and we're going to bunch it around or work towards that.

[41:41] And I specialise there were waiting for the 26 numbers to close. My fingers are crossed that

[41:46] they'll be positive. You know, Stacy still doing a lot of work on the ticking time and

[41:51] will the numbers. And we've entered this year, you know, okay. But you know, with with a,

[41:58] I'll pull out a whole little plundin. We want to keep doing that. We've managed to do that. So

[42:04] There's a whole lot of things we're moving on at the same time, but again, I did the input from

[42:10] folks like you were going to group, and I know there's on this community going to be critical in

[42:13] setting the communities, expectations,

[42:18] and in our goals.

[42:23] Thank you for sharing that. By when do you expect to have all the free advent 26 figures ready?

[42:29] I think, I think later in the months, they should be for the end of August,

[42:33] If for the very beginning of September, I think it's a historically, when they come now, I don't,

[42:39] I know I just don't need not to keep checking, I ask them to check one final thing I'm about to hear.

[42:44] So, I think it's pretty close.

[42:50] So, what do you mean, this committee can go get to work pretty quickly?

[42:54] Well, that's good to hear.

[42:57] Good to hear.

[42:59] Well, thank you for that.

[43:00] And you mentioned the models that already exists, that very tough, so of course the idea is not that they bring something from the outside and then we have competing models, anything like that, but I'd be very careful about it.

[43:11] What exists, it exists for a reason, we start from there and then we can build on or corrective your degree to explain how to modify it.

[43:19] I'd be I commit that if you choose me I'd be very respectful of what exists because again

[43:25] right before and well intending people have thought it together for reasons.

[43:29] I will have questions and certainly

[43:33] propositions to address the modified but the idea that you own the model and one more thing

[43:39] you own the assumptions and lines is one of.

[43:42] We work on them together.

[43:42] to be just quite a bit of work in that mono with the state of the town over the past.

[43:50] All of the last of them are longer than that, but it's pretty well built down.

[43:59] All right.

[44:00] Thank you.

[44:03] So the board of summer would like to make a motion.

[44:08] So, Anthony, I think before we get that, there's-

[44:10] I wanted to make a board aware that there's so Jean Baptiste, thank you for your application.

[44:14] There's three other residents who have expressed interest in this committee.

[44:18] Two of whom have applied via email.

[44:20] I think the actual application didn't get to the packet in time.

[44:24] So I'd like to work with Patty to try to get those folks on our next agenda and then take a vote

[44:31] in two weeks to fill that last seat.

[44:37] Yeah, so I know that there was one additional application, I was not aware of the other two, but there's one that Patty shared from Pengpeng,

[44:53] child that came in on Thursday, Pulse, Posing, Garra came in on July 31st, and then Leo Donu

[44:59] and I work community.

[45:02] I was out of town until Sunday for Sunday or today. So I wasn't aware that this was going to be on today's agenda. So I was trying to meet with that third candidate to at least discuss interest.

[45:14] Not that you knew that because I didn't realize that this was going to be on tonight's agenda either.

[45:19] And just how do you when we posted this, do we have a close date on that posting?

[45:24] Yes, but they're all the interest had come through before the posting and

[45:34] one job, Paul had not, he submitted information but he had not submitted his application and so we went into last week so everything just happened after the packet deadlines, because the packet deadline is now Tuesday at 12.

[45:56] Okay, so is it correct that we have additional applications that came in before the posting was closed, but the materials were not correct for you.

[46:12] Okay.

[46:15] Yeah, I think in that case we should consider the applications that we had in before the deadline and happy to interview those other candidates on the on our next meeting.

[46:34] Thanks for that. I was not aware that there were multiple others that had come through, but I

[46:42] And that would be fine then if

[46:45] Everyone is comfortable doing that

[46:53] That sounds good to me. That's been our practice. I think in the past when

[46:57] And I actually I didn't even know that Tuesday was a deadline. I thought it was Thursday for the packet. So

[47:02] That's good that's good to know, but yeah

[47:05] to change Mike and that's why I'm saying it out loud.

[47:08] Oh, okay, oh no, it's good to know,

[47:11] for when we send people and tell them,

[47:13] hey, you've got until Thursday, at least, yeah.

[47:16] But I think that the committee itself is slowly

[47:21] moving towards getting off the ground,

[47:22] so I don't think it'll make a difference

[47:24] if we wait till the next meeting either.

[47:27] So.

[47:28] Okay, so let's do that.

[47:31] So I'm going to give a piece of apologies

[47:32] that we're kind of process got us on this one. So we will meet again on the 24th

[47:41] we will be in person. You are welcome to attend that meeting or watch it on

[47:48] webcam. But we won't need to interview it. You again because we met with you

[47:54] today,

[47:57] and so that's a good deal.

[48:00] It's positive to hear that there is

[48:02] interest for the positions.

[48:03] I see on the website, it's mentioning two or three

[48:06] individuals attending the model, so if I'm one of them

[48:09] perfect, I'm sure you make the best decision for Winchester.

[48:13] I will not be in town on the 21st, but I can't

[48:18] try to remove it.

[48:21] Well, thank you. Thank you for your time.

[48:23] Thank you for applying and we will move back around to you for meeting in two weeks.

[48:32] Thank you.

[48:33] Thank you.

[48:33] Nice to meet you.

[48:43] Patty.

[48:45] Oh, yes.

[48:47] I think Patty will see Elevate you.

[48:52] And then Patty, can you elevate extra the lab for the cultural council position, please?

[49:19] Are we pronouncing your name correctly?

[49:21] Yes, you pronounce the whole thing correctly.

[49:23] Oh, okay.

[49:24] I have some practices holding a name in character.

[49:29] So, welcome.

[49:32] Thank you for applying to the cultural council position.

[49:37] And thanks for joining our meeting.

[49:40] For the interview, we have your application materials.

[49:43] And we'd love to hear from you.

[49:45] I have a couple of questions.

[49:46] but if you could first just introduce yourself,

[49:50] you're just starting your name and your address

[49:52] and then tell us a bit about yourself

[49:54] and why you're interested in a cultural council position.

[49:58] Sure, so I am Okshtad Aladwa and I am at 1171 Swanton Street

[50:05] in Winchester and that is located in the community called the Village.

[50:10] I don't know if anyone is familiar with that area.

[50:14] And I didn't necessarily know that I was interested in the cultural council.

[50:19] I just found that the electrical boxes, I guess it's called, and the faculty were painted.

[50:26] And then I saw that on the streets, or on the sidewalks, there were, like, what looked like chalk art.

[50:35] And so like those two things just I was like really happy to see those and so I just started looking at what

[50:45] like how do those things come to be in the town and that's when I saw that there was this cultural council.

[50:55] But I looked at some of the other events.

[50:57] and things that the council puts it and I wanted to contribute to that and had ideas

[51:07] for expanding it and doing more and being able to kind of do more some crew specialty type things.

[51:20] as I thought there was a Afro Kera type event and I really thought that was interesting.

[51:28] I didn't get to attend that I was out of town, but that's something that I found really interesting.

[51:33] So I wanted to be part of the team that puts these things up and make sure that the community

[51:42] is coming out to these things that is getting value from that.

[51:46] So, background on me, so I have no actual background in the arts or anything like that.

[51:54] I am a Product Manager in Tech by Profession, and I've been in that field for over a decade now.

[52:03] And I just moved to Winchester in January,

[52:09] and moved to Massachusetts just a couple years ago.

[52:12] I was, you know, had a state and grew up somewhere else for a long time.

[52:17] So this is my first time in this area for some living in a town like this.

[52:21] So I wanted to just join and be part of the community.

[52:26] Thank you.

[52:27] Glad to, uh, does you tell you about this culture?

[52:31] There's a very nice, nice future. So we'll start with questions. We'll go, Mike, Bill, Michelle.

[52:40] Questions for each other?

[52:41] Thank you, Cynthia, and thank you, Michelle. I really appreciate you moving to town and jumping right into helping out

[52:51] the cultural council. The cultural council has been very, very active and getting a lot of things

[52:56] on over the past several years, so it will be nice to see you part of it, so thank you very

[53:03] much for showing interest and happy to support you. I don't have any other questions.

[53:09] Thank you.

[53:17] Will any questions?

[53:18] No questions.

[53:19] Happy to support her.

[53:22] Michelle?

[53:23] I think the only question I had is have you had a chance to watch a meeting of the cultural

[53:26] counselor or contact anybody on that committee?

[53:30] No, I am not.

[53:33] That's not a problem.

[53:35] That's not a problem.

[53:36] She actually begged a diversity.

[53:40] It actually sent her application and trust to Peter Pulsifer.

[53:44] Okay, also.

[53:45] So he's aware and he actually has stopped by today to see if we had

[53:49] appointed hers.

[53:50] Oh, good.

[53:51] I will connect her with him.

[53:54] With him.

[53:54] Okay, great.

[53:55] I appreciate it too.

[53:57] I appreciate it.

[53:57] Thank you.

[53:58] Yeah.

[53:59] I appreciate your interest.

[54:00] Thank you.

[54:02] The only question I have for you is just if there's a particular interest that you

[54:10] have that you could see, you know, sometimes with as a three-year appointment, so sometimes within your

[54:18] I guess it's a one-year appointment, and then you put inside of them looking, but something you could envision that you might try to get off the ground while you're a member of a cultural household.

[54:31] Yeah, there's one kind of idea that I did have and I don't know how it fits into the context of, you know, the committee and you know what the boundaries are as there right now.

[54:42] But I come from Indian background and when I was growing up, I didn't have a lot of Indian or other Asian representation in the community that I was growing up despite there being plenty of Indian or other Asian people doing their own little celebrations for different times of the year.

[55:09] I would like to see, and this would be something that I would be happy to take on, but I would

[55:17] like to see something specific to that culture, be something that the town can also be a part

[55:25] of in and learn.

[55:31] Thank you.

[55:34] Any questions that you have for us, but I don't know how many of

[55:38] we ourselves.

[55:42] I don't. I think I should have done a little bit more research, but I think

[55:49] I will probably have questions after understanding a little bit more on how things work

[55:55] and just kind of getting to know what's in the pipeline and what the process is to

[56:10] make a motion. Yeah, so I move that we appoint a new applicant,

[56:18] Exhada Ladoa for a term expire on July 31, 2027, to the vacant position on the cultural

[56:25] Councillor.

[56:26] Second.

[56:28] So, we'll call the Michelle.

[56:31] Yes.

[56:32] Yes.

[56:35] I will answer so.

[56:37] Thank you.

[56:38] Thank you.

[56:39] Thank you.

[56:40] Thank you.

[56:42] All right.

[56:43] So, we will do a review of moving people around.

[56:47] So, how do you would you be able to then put extra to back the attendees and then bring

[56:54] We'll do Julia Osborne and Steve Baker.

[56:57] We can bring them on at the same time.

[57:08] Two applicants for the permanent street tree committee.

[57:16] Steve, who is a new applicant,

[57:18] and then Julia Osborne,

[57:21] who is a comment,

[57:22] I believe she was appointed in January of this year.

[57:30] So we'll start with Julia,

[57:33] Yes, people join you move around in my screens here.

[57:35] They're talking about screen at the moment.

[57:38] We'll start with Julia if you want to give us a little bit about your background,

[57:45] your interest in continuing on the permanent street free committee

[57:49] and then we just go ahead when you introduce yourself

[57:52] with your name and your address.

[57:55] Yes.

[57:56] I'm Julia Osborn and I live at 39 Canone Road.

[58:02] My background is, I have a master's in plant ecology, but most of my life was spent in science, editing, developing science textbooks and periodicals and curricula of various sorts.

[58:19] I'm retired now, I've lived here 30 years.

[58:24] and I was delighted to be appointed to the committee because over the years I've seen the loss of canopy cover in the town and really want to be able to participate in changing that and turning it around.

[58:40] I was at I came on the committee in January I think and we developed as when I came on we developed a five year plan which included things such as doing a full tree inventory and analysis and management plan for where we go in the next few years which species of trees how we would address that.

[59:05] And finally, with a planting plan, working with the town to ensure Jesus planted and maintained.

[59:14] We thought we could have budget to do some of that. Unfortunately, they over I didn't pass.

[59:22] So there wasn't money to hire an arborist whom we would like to have worked with us.

[59:28] We have applied for some grants to help us.

[59:32] We certainly applied for grant with the municipal vulnerability, preparedness group, working with the Mystic River watershed association.

[59:45] To use some lovely equipment that would basically take an image of every tree on the street that would allow us to identify species size and it actually,

[59:58] It's a vehicle that drives up and down.

[1:00:00] And we were going to be able to use that data to develop a plan. Unfortunately, we just learned we did not get the grant.

[1:00:13] So we also wanted to make sure we were planning some trees. We've applied for a grant with the CPA to see if we could get some trees in some of the parks.

[1:00:26] And that's ongoing, but I would really like to see us be able to achieve a large net growth in the true canopy.

[1:00:38] We really have not been replacing traces.

[1:00:40] They're coming down in many of our streets have no street trees anymore.

[1:00:46] We'd also like to, some of the other towns give out free trees for people to plant in their yards.

[1:00:55] We don't do that. I know the state in some states and I don't know if this is true here.

[1:01:00] This just came to my attention, but I know some of the states actually will give

[1:01:06] Trace to towns to distribute to individual people that happens in their hamster.

[1:01:11] So I think that would be a way without using funds if we could get Trace to actually give to individual people.

[1:01:20] Thank you.

[1:01:21] Any questions from the board?

[1:01:27] Actually, I have one.

[1:01:29] Thank you for coming in this evening, Ms. Osborn.

[1:01:32] You talked about even on the committee's January,

[1:01:36] so you've went through the budget cycle,

[1:01:39] obviously the arborist piece.

[1:01:42] I'm curious within your street tree.

[1:01:46] What you know about it and what you know about our current situation.

[1:01:49] If you think there's any particular

[1:01:52] areas of town that need this attention more or any sense within the

[1:01:56] tree committee of where you'd prioritize like if we had suddenly five hundred

[1:02:00] trees land you know a truck backed up and five hundred trees like we're in

[1:02:04] the jinks center parking lot. Do you have a point of view which is the committee

[1:02:07] at the point of view about where that kind of reforestation of a start in town?

[1:02:12] The come out state for myself because I think we're thinking we would have more

[1:02:18] data. I think we should start with the main large thoroughfares, which have broader

[1:02:25] verges, where there's more room to plant large trees. And I think my vision is we'd

[1:02:32] have like allies of uncertain blocks or certain areas for be similar, very similar size trees.

[1:02:39] What we've been doing in the past, I'm not necessarily like one red maple and one red bud

[1:02:45] that dies. I mean, we haven't been planning with a sort of a majestic view of what the

[1:02:51] main streets in the city could be like like highland Avenue. They're all I live on highland

[1:02:56] Avenue. So that is a biased statement. I do know the data show that the eastern part of the town

[1:03:02] is less treat, has a less canopy now than the western part just because the development and the

[1:03:08] things have been planted, but a lot of our sidewalks don't have trees. So, does that answer?

[1:03:15] I mean, maybe Washington, don't be silent. No, just I appreciate the point of view. Thank you.

[1:03:24] Well, I find myself very lucky to have six trees on my very short-street,

[1:03:28] because I hear me speak. I planted one. It turns out you're not supposed to. It's doing

[1:03:34] I don't like to like over none.

[1:03:38] I'm trying to get the post.

[1:03:40] This was before I could make a minute.

[1:03:44] I'm like our bell any questions?

[1:03:49] No.

[1:03:49] I'm all set.

[1:03:50] Thank you Julia for again applying to shit.

[1:03:56] Yeah.

[1:03:56] Thank you Julia.

[1:03:57] I remember our interview from Virginia, and I said I don't have any additional questions,

[1:04:04] thank you.

[1:04:05] your background of your time on your committee is very helpful.

[1:04:08] Okay, thank you. It's been an honor to serve however, I'm productive so far.

[1:04:16] Changed each time.

[1:04:19] Ari, I think you're Julia and then see you all turn it to you.

[1:04:24] So, introduce yourself your name, your address, a little bit about your background and why you're

[1:04:30] interested in serving on the Permanent Street Street community. Sure, thanks a lot.

[1:04:34] good evening. Steve Baker, 10 Wildwood Street, an 11-year resident of the town, a geographer

[1:04:41] by training bachelor's and master, so I have some applicable, you know, coursework studies

[1:04:46] related to this topic. My professional background is commercial real estate and I suspect that

[1:04:53] there could be some applicability there as well, so over two decades in the commercial real estate

[1:04:57] world, I'm currently staying in play with the Executive Office of Economic Development

[1:05:02] and I'm a passionate outdoorsman from my Eagle Scout days through current leadership with

[1:05:08] that place in Mountain Club and a number of capacities. Why I'm interested is a care

[1:05:13] about our community and I think this is a way where I can have a unique skill set as a background

[1:05:18] as I just described and I think that can add value to the committee. I will say that I was

[1:05:25] previously serving just for your awareness on the cable advisory committee. I did have to

[1:05:29] Remove myself from that role just to professional conflicts in my new state and my state capacity from a couple of years back.

[1:05:39] So eager to step back into serving the town in a capacity where I can evaluate.

[1:05:46] Thank you.

[1:05:47] Questions from the board?

[1:05:52] So I'll ask what I asked.

[1:05:55] Our cultural council applicant. If you had a chance to attend any tree committees or meet with a chair or meet with members.

[1:06:02] I'm just to get a sense of how, you know, how they roll and what they're focused on.

[1:06:08] I have not attended a formal meeting. Michelle, I do know a couple of the folks on the

[1:06:12] committee. I did have a chance to talk to one of those folks, Tom Moore. He and I run

[1:06:18] together and I did have a chance to catch up with him about going on with the committee

[1:06:22] and his perspectives. So that was helpful. Okay.

[1:06:32] Make a bell any questions?

[1:06:35] No, I'm good. Thank you very much for applying safe. Appreciate it. Thank you.

[1:06:40] Any questions here?

[1:06:43] So, Sioux, is there anything that you can think of as a new applicant that would

[1:06:52] be something that you would bring to the Permanent Street Creek Creek

[1:06:55] community either or something interested in or something that you've seen

[1:06:59] and other related work that you've done that you think could be valuable to the community?

[1:07:06] I think myself as a collaborator, I don't know all the members on the committee now, but my style is highly collaborative, and I think I've got a unique background as I described.

[1:07:18] I think as also, you know, I have a unique perspective on state government, certainly one of what conflicts, but I think I can open doors through my network profession.

[1:07:30] Finally, and drop on that experience professionally and personally, in this way.

[1:07:37] Thank you.

[1:07:43] Okay, so we will go ahead and go ahead and deliver it. So, Patty, baby, we can.

[1:07:49] What is the RTS grade?

[1:07:54] It's to just move them back into the, yeah, attendees. Yes.

[1:07:59] I don't have it for everything, we're going to thank you very much for applying.

[1:08:07] Check, read, attend to them.

[1:08:13] Alright, so if there is discussion where we can take a motion from members of the board.

[1:08:23] So I'll move that we appoint and come in Julia Osborne to a term expiring July 31, 29, to the permanent street committee for open position and just to kind of add my perspective on this, you know, I think we just appointed her to this committee very recently and so.

[1:08:50] I think I'd like to see Steve on there as well both would be great assets, but I think we give Julie a chance to kind of get get to get something moving on the committee.

[1:09:07] So she's kind of already acclimated herself and has jumped in.

[1:09:12] And so it makes sense to continue her and then when an opening comes up to reach out to Steve again.

[1:09:17] so that's my reasoning for the motion for Julia.

[1:09:23] So as a follow up to your response mic,

[1:09:27] is I actually asked Austin because we had to choose,

[1:09:32] we could only choose one candidate.

[1:09:35] And the other person can actually

[1:09:37] join the Permit Street Committee as an associate

[1:09:41] as a non-boding member.

[1:09:43] He needs a lot of volunteers.

[1:09:45] And they would be a spot for Steve as a ex, as an onboarding member.

[1:09:53] Okay. Um, well, we can take that up as a separate motion and see if that if there's interest there.

[1:10:00] Um, it's not, it, it's also not on the agenda that way.

[1:10:05] I don't know if that we, you know, no, it would, this is no voting by the board.

[1:10:09] He can just, it's, um, he can just, oh, okay.

[1:10:12] this is helping with the committee. He doesn't have to, he just can't vote. So it's it'd be

[1:10:18] you know, a non voting member. Yeah. And I think that that's really a great solution here. And,

[1:10:25] you know, just kind of anecdotally, a lot of these committees, you know, there's not a, you know,

[1:10:32] votes swinging back and forth by one vote. Like, I think for the work they do, they're all kind of

[1:10:42] unanimous most of the time. So I don't think that by not being an official member but participating,

[1:10:48] you know, there's really that much of a substantive difference. So that's just my two cents.

[1:10:54] So certainly that we can connect Steve with Austin if that's turns out to be the case.

[1:11:02] Okay. And we have non-goating members who do work on this work.

[1:11:09] I was just not good enough.

[1:11:11] I was like, wait, I had to pause what you were just saying there. I was going to second that motion.

[1:11:18] Then you threw me for a curveball there. So I appreciate Patty the potential opportunity for

[1:11:26] Steve Baker. We should circle back with him if that's a interest realizing us on our vote.

[1:11:32] But to Mike's point, Julia Osborne has been there. And there's no reason to think she can't

[1:11:41] continue to fulfill that role and be available for those meetings. So I would support extending

[1:11:48] that reappointment to her. So I'll second my motion. Yeah. Great. Any further discussion?

[1:12:00] And we can take a vote. So we'll call vote, Mike. Yes. Michelle? Yes. I will answer as well. So thank you

[1:12:13] both Julia and Steve, so Julia, see you continue as a member of the Primary History Community

[1:12:18] and Steve, we can connect you with Austin if you would like to be engaged with that.

[1:12:28] We'll have some great backgrounds that would be great to be engaged.

[1:12:36] So we will move on to the old, sort of, but we have as old business and just,

[1:12:44] As we've been updating our agendas, you'll see somethings our old business, somethings our new business and it's just kind of things that we've heard before versus things that are new to the agenda for the first time.

[1:12:59] So Chris, can we turn it over to you for sort of a quick summary of your memo of the retiree health insurance and sure we've all had a chance to read it and I'm sure we all remember our work.

[1:13:13] extensive meeting and collaborative extended motion that got us to where we are.

[1:13:24] Okay, so summarizing the nonetheless in the packet after a number of conversations with staff,

[1:13:32] from an ads and several of the unions and unit leaders and doing some research into the

[1:13:42] potential retiree pool and who is more likely than others to potentially retire.

[1:13:48] I'm recommending that the board take the latest date that you set in your vote,

[1:13:55] just June 30th, 2027 as the date for file vesting for the point of the benefit, I think that'll

[1:14:05] give people plenty of time to have these conversations out. I think a lot for what we hope to

[1:14:15] have are a tax policy session, just so good that I understand how all the raised benefits work together.

[1:14:22] I'd like to recommend a bit more time and not retire, just to bring to neutral folks

[1:14:26] and to help do that.

[1:14:27] It did something like that in New York and we have an early retirement session, and so

[1:14:32] we can understand how the timing on things and how things worked.

[1:14:38] And based on the conversations, I think it would also last a mission time for the partners

[1:14:45] to play.

[1:14:46] I'm also asking that people giving notice to us, and that day would be February 1.

[1:14:55] Like if people point of time, it also allows the budget to be tweaked as necessary.

[1:15:00] necessary to address potential returns. Obviously if things change, people can always, you know,

[1:15:08] there's some of these circumstances change. You have to reverse this out retiring. And for some reason,

[1:15:14] they can't, for some reason, those things happen. It's okay. It's a work without. But we'd like to

[1:15:19] know, with some degree of certainty, a story about this we can, so that we can play. If someone,

[1:15:27] whether someone say to DPW supervisor or a clerk in an apartment, it does take time to

[1:15:37] make sure we're transitioning and then we're getting the right skills that's covered.

[1:15:43] And that's the recommendation if people have questions will be free to ask.

[1:15:49] I do think that this is spurred conversation for sure amongst staff.

[1:15:54] And there will be obviously also ongoing conversation with retirees that I'll continue as well.

[1:16:02] But that's the recommendation.

[1:16:07] So I've got a couple of questions.

[1:16:10] Met a couple of weeks ago, we had a preliminary meeting of retiree health insurance.

[1:16:15] I'd asked it to get us on like a monthly cadence for that.

[1:16:18] So do you envision, I don't know what the status is that is,

[1:16:22] Do you envision having these meetings on a monthly basis with retirees until February or March?

[1:16:32] We've only had one, but I think we need to have more.

[1:16:35] And would that regard this and where this vote goes this evening?

[1:16:37] That's kind of a, maybe that's all business of really old business.

[1:16:41] That's a good question.

[1:16:42] I don't think it's anything clowned by having, I think we're good and things are good.

[1:16:45] I think it was helpful in getting information to me.

[1:16:48] In fact, folks, I also have getting information back out.

[1:16:51] I actually had a unit active unit leader there, right?

[1:16:54] And myself, I mean, I think it's

[1:16:56] it's bird and additional conversations.

[1:16:58] So yeah, I think getting on a regular cycle.

[1:17:02] And having the continued online accessibility

[1:17:04] is good and I think more members are getting appointed too.

[1:17:08] So that'll just be beneficial.

[1:17:10] So we get to you as well as the necessary.

[1:17:14] OK, so this is the same question as Kaboie's ghost.

[1:17:19] Should I be working with you or Kim

[1:17:20] as the Slipboard Rep to that committee, to get that cadence nailed down.

[1:17:29] Yes, both of us, and I'm trying to figure out who will be the point that my staff here

[1:17:36] and how logistics just setting up the regular meetings and all, Kim's only here a couple days a week.

[1:17:44] But we know what we get to set up, I think we get to set up a monthly, regular monthly,

[1:17:48] Zoom and have a through software in these like what's off us as well.

[1:17:55] Well, Frank, okay.

[1:17:56] Okay, thank you for that. And my second question is relative to February versus February to

[1:18:06] notice a shift from January 1 to June 30. So all current retirees will roll over January 1.

[1:18:15] That's where a lot of the Medicare plans.

[1:18:17] Is there any implementation concern from Stacey or carriers or anything else for a mid-year

[1:18:26] implementation or change?

[1:18:29] We would just add a certain cohort of employees to the retiree roles in May, June, July, and

[1:18:38] so the plans change on January 1.

[1:18:42] And again, we hit the new rates.

[1:18:43] In fact, we still have a down the shift for what January was Rachel B.

[1:18:45] But people were a terrible time. So they people had to plan on other retire. So when you retire,

[1:18:52] that's a, that, that, that, that let you in, that, that's, that's, you know, you're, you're

[1:18:56] automatically in current retirees in this role of planning a role of January 1. So, that, that, the, the

[1:19:01] deadline for letting us study retirees really just for us to know. And by giving a deal of June

[1:19:07] 30th, and some people want to first, physically, for some reason, or, expect, there'll be people that

[1:19:11] entire, we've very handsome people right in my office, so it's okay to tell her, and I expect

[1:19:17] there are some who will go sometime in the spring. I think people also speak time to look at

[1:19:23] their circumstances, you know, when their spouse or family are, where they are, you know,

[1:19:30] that they have a few more years, you know, everyone takes this very individually and I just think

[1:19:37] It has been a lot of conversations, but it doesn't change anything when people join a plan when

[1:19:44] they were tired.

[1:19:47] Okay, so then my last question, I have something else that we do adopt this recommendation,

[1:19:51] but my last question for now is, if with February to inform your budget, right, and do you

[1:19:57] have it like February 9th or something, are you about just do February 15th?

[1:20:00] Yes, this is from the first.

[1:20:02] February 1st.

[1:20:08] So as part of that financial impact, and maybe this is where the Fincom people on the retiree health insurance committee can help, we're going to need to calculate

[1:20:18] potentially sickly by-back for a significant portion of this staff, right? So

[1:20:23] Is that anywhere in the modeling in terms of or have we had to pay out any sickly by-back and unused vacation for folks of our retired like what's the

[1:20:34] What's the burn rate because that's gonna be?

[1:20:35] That's gonna hit current year budget and I think we need to understand if there's a a need to adjust budgets. It's spring town meeting based on

[1:20:42] sort of these you know

[1:20:44] We have, you know, we have credits and we have, you know, unrealized liabilities, depending on where the volume of folks and what they've occurred.

[1:20:55] I think that letting, if people let us know my favorite, they'll allow us to do those kinds of things.

[1:21:01] Often, you know, you don't replace somebody right away anyway.

[1:21:05] But it really depends on the entire thing.

[1:21:06] of retiring in 30th, but you're right, and everybody's kind of hitting us in this fiscal year,

[1:21:12] and then any of the saves we would have found would have been for the next year.

[1:21:15] And if we had to add more money, it's good to know that earlier, so we can make any adjustments in the

[1:21:20] budget. There's there's perhaps on what people could carry, and I get an old depends on what

[1:21:26] you that you're in and how long you've been here. So there are our upper bounds on those things.

[1:21:33] Some of the bigger hits we've had involved more unusual circumstances,

[1:21:36] we're somebody's been out on leave for a medical or something like that and there are

[1:21:40] growing things. Those are pretty rare. Most people that there's a fine amount of time they

[1:21:46] have, we're going to really depends on what they're, you know, along the bidding and what they're

[1:21:51] units, but what they have, most people are allowed to roll a lot of vacation. I work usually

[1:21:56] only a week or two. And the six time by bag is also dependent on what their contract says.

[1:22:02] I don't think it's a place of wool for everyone, but again, it's best by the time I

[1:22:08] shall. I should point out to it. So, do you do those calculations? So, if you have to make a

[1:22:11] tweaked man, you can. I see a Stacey, do I know? I don't know. Stacey, you haven't read it yet.

[1:22:17] Can't read it yet, just so I'll pack her in. Yeah.

[1:22:21] Stacey, I'm good morning yet. Good evening. I couldn't hear what Chris was saying, but I don't know what's

[1:22:29] Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next one.

[1:22:30] My audio. But as long as we're just going by the retirement date, the implementation of the Medicare Part B is basically, we take everyone, we get an export from our insurance company, whoever was on our plan and had retirement dates up to before that date, we would then process the Medicare Part B payment set the end of June.

[1:22:51] If we then say, well, they have to give us notice in order to get the benefit and that gets a little bit tricky.

[1:22:57] So hopefully we're just going with the retirement date and calling it a day.

[1:23:02] But Michelle, you're right, they will be not so much.

[1:23:04] I had raised my hand because you mentioned sickly by that, but then you continue it on with vacation.

[1:23:08] That's usually the bigger it is the vacation by back.

[1:23:11] And if someone's been here for years, they're at five weeks vacation.

[1:23:15] And they may not have taken all their vacation, come January, they've earned five weeks.

[1:23:21] So they can paid out that five weeks depending on when they were hired.

[1:23:24] So it's a little tricky in some of the union.

[1:23:26] They're all different.

[1:23:27] So yeah, they will come with a budget impact for sure.

[1:23:33] Thank you, CC.

[1:23:36] Oh.

[1:23:41] Okay.

[1:23:41] Any other questions on this?

[1:23:49] So it sounds like we're comfortable with the memo and the update that Chris provided.

[1:23:55] and moving towards having a June 30th date for the Retari Health Insurance benefits.

[1:24:06] So, so much could just make a motion that articulates that and then we'll start with that.

[1:24:16] Sure, so I can make that motion.

[1:24:18] That slipboard adopted the recommendation of the time manager to formally established June 30,

[1:24:22] 2027 is the deadline for vesting

[1:24:25] Townsmetic or a parpy reimbursement and any employee who retired on a before,

[1:24:30] that date will receive the parpy reimbursement.

[1:24:31] Those are retired after that date when along received that reimbursement.

[1:24:43] Okay.

[1:24:45] Any further discussion?

[1:24:49] No, the only thing I would say is I'd like to get a little bit more information.

[1:24:54] I think I asked for this last time kind of on like impacts

[1:24:57] you know, so I know that we have 80 eligible retirees but you know, which departments

[1:25:04] are they from and, you know, I think it just makes a difference when we're, you know,

[1:25:10] kind of looking at the change to retirees, their financial planning for the future so that's

[1:25:20] my only thing, you know, I, I, I, I, I'm glad that we're pushing it out that far because

[1:25:25] I think we need some time here to socialize this.

[1:25:29] And I think that was part of the reason

[1:25:32] for us to get the retiree health committee back together.

[1:25:39] So I'm glad that at least we won't be before July 30, 20, 20,

[1:25:45] so I'll say that much.

[1:25:49] And then after we vote this, I'd like to make another motion,

[1:25:52] but let's just take this out first, please.

[1:25:56] OK, so do you a roll call about Michelle?

[1:25:57] Yes.

[1:25:58] Bill?

[1:25:59] I.

[1:26:01] Mike?

[1:26:01] Yep.

[1:26:02] Right.

[1:26:03] I bow yes as well.

[1:26:05] I'll take a go ahead if you have a second motion.

[1:26:07] My second motion is to ask the chair and the manager to communicate with their counterparts

[1:26:15] in the school department and school committee to socialize and make and share this update.

[1:26:20] I know back in July, right?

[1:26:24] No, I guess it was June.

[1:26:24] I got a note from a school employee who was concerned about having to make that decision

[1:26:29] in July.

[1:26:30] So if we can get ahead of that tonight or tomorrow, I think that will help us.

[1:26:34] So I just want to say that I love that sounds great.

[1:26:38] We can.

[1:26:41] I will further discuss with that sounds great weekend.

[1:26:44] We can certainly work with communicating that through school committee and making sure

[1:26:51] and superintendent in the future that information gets out there.

[1:26:57] So we'll take a roll call vote on that, Michelle.

[1:27:01] Mike.

[1:27:03] Bill.

[1:27:10] Anything further with us, are we going to move on to WCCC?

[1:27:17] So Chris, we also have a memo from Chris on WCCP going back to our earlier discussion about

[1:27:24] care custody and control of the different projects that I'd come up both in speaking with

[1:27:32] Christina Marshall, the chair of the WCCP and as well as getting an understanding of what some

[1:27:37] of the projects were and how they were developed. So in Chris's memo, there was discussion of

[1:27:46] You know, his recommendation on providing care custody and control for all of the projects.

[1:27:57] Excuse me, as presented with an update around the new adult field project and how that has been shifted to a study.

[1:28:07] And it's coming in with support from the record director as well.

[1:28:14] Of course, is there anything to add to that?

[1:28:17] We've had some good conversations.

[1:28:19] I'm one thing that I'm upon on a list.

[1:28:21] This conversation is happening much, much, much earlier next year.

[1:28:25] So they've been good.

[1:28:27] They've been productive.

[1:28:28] They need to come much earlier in the process next year.

[1:28:33] So I'm fully honest with my staff as two.

[1:28:35] And I said we've had some really good conversations in the Utah field as a great example.

[1:28:39] Anthony and my office were not met with President of, I think he's the president of the WBSA.

[1:28:45] At Newtownfield, they had a good conversation and I changed the scope of the project.

[1:28:49] For the good, and I became a joint project with the town to do a master play.

[1:28:53] I think that was, they had to accomplish things.

[1:28:55] That was like really, really good to happen out there.

[1:28:59] And I also had a really nice meeting with Austin and the chair of the Permanente Community of the day.

[1:29:03] So he was actually excited that I like trees.

[1:29:05] and that I want to help them develop plans. So that was a really good conversation. So

[1:29:12] and again, as you heard earlier, unfortunately, they did not win or the grants they were seeking.

[1:29:16] So I think the WCCP funding for their actions is really critical. And I'm going to

[1:29:21] even though I don't have a vote, WCCP, I'm certainly advocate for funding for all of some

[1:29:26] projects. So my recommendation is the board giveaway. Green line to all the seven of these.

[1:29:30] and the care tests that control me all the way through.

[1:29:33] So if they think that the CC, those CCV votes, yes, the fund on that.

[1:29:38] But the word, you know, gives them a green light at town meeting.

[1:29:40] That's what the Canadians are looking for.

[1:29:43] That's what I would recommend.

[1:29:47] Any questions for Chris?

[1:29:49] So yeah.

[1:29:52] So care testing control, I think I understand that.

[1:29:56] And that was the next step.

[1:29:57] That was the open item for this.

[1:29:58] but two

[1:30:00] Support this all day to the town meeting. I mean, I'm not suggesting things will change, but it's possible that from August 10 to November, something could come up. So for the select board to commit on August 10th, that we support it when we have invoked positions on the war and articles and we haven't seen the motion language and we haven't seen any potential concerns or risks or cost changes that fills a bit premature to me to vote that tonight. But that's the language and your recommendation is to go all the way through to fall town meeting.

[1:30:28] And it's like we're normally both positions closer to town meeting,

[1:30:33] sometimes the evenings of town meeting.

[1:30:36] Yeah, that I've experienced.

[1:30:38] I think that the real, again, we're kind of working online, which right?

[1:30:44] So I think this is more than just the advocate.

[1:30:48] This is an endorsement of the applications and the board supports the application.

[1:30:51] Not just the right to apply, which is for the application.

[1:30:53] And obviously, this could happen, as you said, for sure, but to now,

[1:30:58] and November, this

[1:31:00] could change in the world, right?

[1:31:02] So, or in the Mississippi funding process, or perhaps tennis is the whole of the story.

[1:31:08] I mean, I don't think it's like that happened, but, you know, if it's going to happen between

[1:31:11] now and now, I understand that I think what the VVCCP wants to know is that I understand that

[1:31:16] the board is supportive of the applications as applications.

[1:31:21] And I understand that I haven't completely came back that the board is hearing that, but

[1:31:27] reserves the right to, you know, something happens, the world can change, you still have to

[1:31:32] vote these in the context of the work.

[1:31:36] They do want more than just application, you know, not just, you're saying, smile, the application.

[1:31:42] You score the applications, the content of the applications.

[1:31:47] I don't know if I'm, this is all due. We're kind of making that possible. We go along.

[1:31:52] So I'm trying to split the thread and needle here, I guess.

[1:32:00] Maybe my guess, I'm just dying to. I hope anything.

[1:32:11] I go ahead.

[1:32:13] Thanks, Cynthia. Yeah. Thanks, Chris.

[1:32:16] I know part of the CPA process, we were kind of building the plane while we were flying it and I think that's going to really happen for the next few years.

[1:32:29] And so I think it makes sense that we spent some time really kind of digging into these projects even though it wasn't necessarily on the timeline that we wanted, but I think it makes sense for us to

[1:32:43] in support of all of the care custody and control for all of the applications that have been

[1:32:51] submitted because management has reviewed them at this point, right? And to your point, if something

[1:32:57] crazy happens or something that we didn't know about, then it won't happen, right? So even if

[1:33:04] town meeting approves it and all that, right? So, but I think that we have dug in and management

[1:33:10] is research these enough to I feel confident kind of moving forward at this point without too much

[1:33:14] more discussion.

[1:33:19] And that's a good point as well. Like is that if something changes so if

[1:33:28] if cost change you know something changes that changes the nature of the application you know that

[1:33:36] very well-known change where we're at but given what's presented as it is and what will be

[1:33:46] what will be put for to the WCCP for a vote I think this is our

[1:33:54] acknowledgement of the projects in their current form.

[1:34:05] So I'm happy to make that motion.

[1:34:06] Um, if you'd like a motion at this point and the, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. Okay, and thank you, Mike for, um, for that as well. So,

[1:34:16] move to the slide for accept the recommendation of the top manager to support the following community preservation projects of the BCCP.

[1:34:22] Friends of Winchester Recreation, Thunderfield Pavilion, Winchester Recreation Packer Ellis tennis McDonald basketball tennis resurfacing DPW town hall auditorium permanent seating restoration.

[1:34:34] permanent street, street community, public tree, canopy improvement, walk and roll Winchester,

[1:34:40] track community, greenway improvements, Winchester Youth Baseball, softball, new tile field

[1:34:45] master plan.

[1:34:47] Thank you.

[1:34:50] Any further discussion?

[1:34:55] Roll call vote, Michelle?

[1:34:57] Yes.

[1:34:58] Like.

[1:34:59] Bell.

[1:35:00] All right.

[1:35:01] I vote.

[1:35:02] Yes, yes.

[1:35:03] All right.

[1:35:04] Chris, thank you for getting this back to us.

[1:35:08] and thank you as well to Anthony for meeting with

[1:35:14] just a space law sample on that project and getting that to the current state.

[1:35:21] All right. So the next thing that we have in our old business is reviewing the summary of

[1:35:29] time managers evaluation and talking about the next steps here. So in our packet we have a summary

[1:35:38] of the scores across each of the

[1:35:44] subsections of the evaluation

[1:35:47] in looking at that both in from our contract with Chris

[1:35:54] that when we kicked off was that in this review,

[1:35:57] needed to have a score of at least three,

[1:36:03] as well as a vote at sort of a affirmative vote

[1:36:07] each member to continue the contracts through December 31, 2027. We do have that in the

[1:36:20] evaluation, so across all of the subsections for squared or three or higher, as

[1:36:26] well as received affirmative affirmation, I have some funny, but that the affirmation

[1:36:33] from the board members to continue the contract.

[1:36:41] So I believe Chris has offered the opportunity

[1:36:45] and I think that with many of us already, I'm just to get some feedback about their review,

[1:36:51] talk through any areas, any questions or anything like that. If you have not yet done that,

[1:37:01] Certainly, you know, connect with Christine's available.

[1:37:06] He's put like a two, how those are one of my conversations.

[1:37:11] And here, feedback.

[1:37:15] And I think, you know, it's a testament to,

[1:37:20] I came into a hard situation and did good work

[1:37:24] and getting us through our override vote and our,

[1:37:30] Our budgeting in the spring coming in after a period when we had my thorough several commentators

[1:37:42] of the course of the few months.

[1:37:45] So what I will say is just to add to that sorry but just to add to that is it was discussed among among us at some point do we want to consider the contract whether we extend it beyond kind of what that next.

[1:38:13] just sort of 18 months and that's something that we people would like to discuss. We can do that in

[1:38:20] executive session and talk through contract for the town manager.

[1:38:28] I will pause there.

[1:38:37] So,

[1:38:38] is the executive session that you're thinking to discuss a different term?

[1:38:45] Okay. Yep,

[1:38:46] if we wanted to extend that term, we could discuss that in exact. So, people would like to do that. We

[1:38:56] and put that on the agenda.

[1:39:00] Or you can put that on the agenda and talk through it.

[1:39:03] Because that is something that we can do in this section.

[1:39:06] And I'm also wondering if in the after Chris was onboarded,

[1:39:13] and we had negotiated the contract,

[1:39:15] then we had to deliver goals for the manager.

[1:39:18] And we did that over, I think, two meetings,

[1:39:20] and then Chris went back and took them up and came back to us.

[1:39:22] What's the plan for finalizing manager goals since the evaluation format self drives very much off of goals?

[1:39:31] There's a summary of goals, but I'm wonder if we shouldn't agree on those as a board.

[1:39:35] I'm still in favor of extending Chris's contract, but I wonder if we shouldn't have those goals

[1:39:39] to find ourselves. There's a paragraph. Certainly, I think we had six or seven for Chris,

[1:39:45] and we did that over a couple of meetings. So it seems like those potentially should go together

[1:39:50] that here's the renewal, maybe that term pieces, exact session, here are the goals on which we

[1:39:56] like you do execute in the next term of your contract. I didn't see that the goals, maybe the

[1:40:03] goals is the next step, but I didn't see where that, where this summary performance would then

[1:40:07] turn into select more goals for the manager. And out of that was anticipated to be like the next

[1:40:14] meeting or not, so maybe you can just help me understand that.

[1:40:21] Um, we all, I'm sorry, but you need to go to.

[1:40:27] Um, we're about to start reading.

[1:40:29] If you give me lots of cookie here.

[1:40:30] So I had to.

[1:40:32] Um, so we will, um, we can do that in the next meeting and talk about goals.

[1:40:38] Um, that's one of the things that you're right.

[1:40:41] We had talked about beforehand of just how do we.

[1:40:44] because you usually also when you're evaluating the town manager, you have like,

[1:40:48] or evaluating anyone, you kind of also want to be collaborative and how they develop those goals.

[1:40:53] And so we had worked with Chris on goals that kind of go to the end of this year,

[1:40:57] so we would want to update those.

[1:41:01] We can talk about that in the next meeting and then I guess the question would be,

[1:41:06] is if we wanted to discuss which order we want to do that in,

[1:41:12] the exact session and goals but that's something that I can work out for our agenda, how that

[1:41:18] fits.

[1:41:26] Chris, as you just came up with you too. I don't want to stop on the conversation. I

[1:41:32] just want to say I appreciate the word bringing me on board the first place. I do appreciate

[1:41:41] that it has been a very active rock, which is a full and place which has been great. I've had a

[1:41:49] and we would lots of people across the spectrum, I do that every day, and that with employees,

[1:41:54] I just remember folks that officially gave the 15-day wave before the last week,

[1:42:00] and that with another fire care in it today, and it's been great. It's been great to work with staff,

[1:42:07] to develop staff, and to continue to develop programs and move forward on the goals,

[1:42:14] The board sets, the time meeting sets, and all the board's committee set.

[1:42:18] There's a lot to do here. It's exciting. There's a lot of great things ahead.

[1:42:24] I appreciate the feedback I've gotten so far. I know there's always things to improve on. I am far from perfect.

[1:42:31] And I appreciate the support I've been given. The partnership, the collaboration, which is how local government works.

[1:42:38] It's been an exciting opportunity and I look forward to continuing that work with all of you and with the community large.

[1:42:48] Thank you, Chris.

[1:42:55] So I will work with Chris and I'm just signing up at the agenda so that we add discussion of the goals and then we can add in any contract discussion and the next accession as well.

[1:43:12] I think, um, thank you for that, Antia. And I think, as, and maybe in the packet, I know Anthony and in a previous packet, we'd had Chris sort of self, self assessment of how he achieved in the goals. If we could line that all up together, right? This is the old set. This is his progress. This is the evaluation. And we can talk about the new goals. It'd be nice to see sort of some, the longitudinal kind of view of progress.

[1:43:38] And kind of like our select bar goals, do we tweak some, do we extend some, do we consider some as completed, going into the next year?

[1:43:45] If we could just look at that as the story and the journey, I think that would be helpful.

[1:43:50] Because we're not going to start the goals from scratch, but we also can I think give credit where goal, what's a progress is made, and there's still some things to be done.

[1:43:58] So if that can be part of the planning piece, I think that would help me.

[1:44:02] I'm not going to have a different answer about Chris's contract, but we nice to have a different

[1:44:06] perspective on goals, because not a ton of shifted from maybe February to today, but maybe for Chris,

[1:44:11] his interest is slightly different, or maybe our need of for his focus is slightly different.

[1:44:16] So thank you for that.

[1:44:21] Thank you, Cecil.

[1:44:25] Okay, so we've all transitioned over

[1:44:28] then to what we have for new business. Bill, as we're here, I just want to check in with you

[1:44:35] So, on timing are you good for another 15 to 20 more minutes?

[1:44:39] Yeah, but we need a motion to renew Chris's contract to exercise the option for another year.

[1:44:46] So I'll do that.

[1:44:46] Thank you.

[1:44:47] I'll move it to select board exercise the option to renew the time manager Chris senior through December 31,

[1:44:53] 2027 having reached his score of over 3.0 and his reviews.

[1:44:58] Um...

[1:44:59] Okay.

[1:45:06] Second, second, second. I prefer to wait to see the court set up. I appreciate and I appreciate the contract and the fact that he needed to score above the three and we have to have review by September 30. I would like to wait and do all that at once.

[1:45:27] That's not a requirement of the contract. So if you're asking for something that's outside the contract, you're putting us up for not adhering to what we agreed to or me.

[1:45:42] And we in the contract have to make this decision by September 30 as well.

[1:45:49] Yes, but if you're making your vote dependent upon something that is not contractually required,

[1:45:54] that becomes a different sort of issue.

[1:45:58] So this is just to as was stated in the contract to extend the contract through December 20,

[1:46:07] 27, it is not to stand the contract any further than that.

[1:46:12] This is what we agreed to in December, January.

[1:46:21] I appreciate that.

[1:46:35] So we're not getting a second to those options.

[1:46:49] So we will hold on to that for the next meeting.

[1:46:52] Then we'll put the goals on for the next meeting.

[1:46:56] Well, did I have a question, then?

[1:46:57] Yeah.

[1:46:58] What if we don't have consensus on goals?

[1:47:01] What if the goals don't adhere to everybody's desire

[1:47:05] for what they want across to do next year.

[1:47:09] It's a, wait, wait, wait.

[1:47:11] We have a process bill.

[1:47:12] So, one is not the shellfish shellfish,

[1:47:14] but it's not an independent product.

[1:47:16] We had a contractual obligation based upon past performance.

[1:47:21] And now you're saying that you want to base a vote upon future expectations.

[1:47:26] That's shift in its outside the contract.

[1:47:29] And so if we are going to start considering these extra contractual requirements

[1:47:33] like you're now bringing up the very first time, I want to know whatever those going to be,

[1:47:39] how are they factoring in, because that's not what his contract says, and I need to know that as I

[1:47:46] consider what's coming into this next meeting.

[1:47:54] One thing I specifically asked is to see

[1:47:56] Chris's goals and his own self-assessment in the next packet. We can put period the end, right? Then

[1:48:06] We could potentially take a vote on his contract, then we could talk about next year's goals.

[1:48:11] They can be three distinct things, but I asked to see where we were in February, Chris's

[1:48:16] self-assessment of achievement of those goals next to the feedback that we all prepared.

[1:48:20] That is past performance. I'd like to close that loop in one packet with one story.

[1:48:27] To be aware in the contract is as Chris's self-evaluated part of the one-year renewal set forth

[1:48:32] because contract as voted upon by this select board last January?

[1:48:39] It's not there.

[1:48:40] Okay.

[1:48:41] So why are we creating additional hurdles?

[1:48:44] We should be adhering to the contracts that we signed.

[1:48:47] That's the whole point of contracts that have expectation and finality.

[1:48:51] I think that we do need to do the goals that you're saying.

[1:48:54] And I think that should be part of a long return renewal.

[1:48:57] But I have a very, very big problem if we're veering off of our contractual obligations

[1:49:02] that were heavily deliberated and agreed upon and concerned Mr. Seniorists, right, as well as an

[1:49:09] employee of this town.

[1:49:23] Yeah, Mike, you have your hand raised. I also, if the contract was in our

[1:49:28] packets, I'm happy to get rid of this, bring out that portion of this contract. Yeah, thanks, Anthony.

[1:49:37] I think it makes sense for us to, you know, just wait and kind of get all that information and

[1:49:43] everything, you know, for we're not asking for months just two weeks until our next meeting.

[1:49:48] So we can, you know, have everybody on the same page and move forward and, you know,

[1:49:54] support Chris's plan and our plan, you know, for years to come.

[1:49:58] So I mean, that would be, that would be my sense.

[1:50:01] So I didn't expect us to be voting, I didn't see that vote on the agenda.

[1:50:09] So,

[1:50:12] you know, I think it's fair that we wait and if we want to vote, then we should put that on the agenda, so that's there.

[1:50:20] You know, the vote was on the agenda, Mike, there's a whole big yellow page.

[1:50:24] Sorry, sorry.

[1:50:25] Sorry.

[1:50:26] Sorry.

[1:50:26] I was on you.

[1:50:27] In our packet,

[1:50:31] And the fly sheet for this section, there is a proposed motion that the

[1:50:35] sector exercise the option to renew time and as you're

[1:50:38] cursing your through December 31st, 2027.

[1:50:43] So, and see if I could, I think that that came out Friday, right?

[1:50:48] So, we got the packet Friday and it was the agenda came out Thursday

[1:50:51] to be in time for our Monday meeting.

[1:50:53] So, you know, I don't, I don't, I mean, the packet always comes out Friday

[1:50:57] with the votes that we're taking on that day, that's nothing new to any of us.

[1:51:04] The thing, we have in the packet certain things to vote on that are in the agenda.

[1:51:10] So, you know, then we, but for this it just says discussion and then, you know, the next day,

[1:51:16] it, you know, we got the packet that says in it. So, I would prefer to wait a couple weeks,

[1:51:21] so we can get all of the information and we can all be rolling in the same direction because, you know,

[1:51:26] So it's, that's just my perspective at this point and now certainly be, you know, ready to vote it, you know, within the contractual timeline.

[1:51:40] So I just want to be clear.

[1:51:43] We receive a packet on Friday as we have since I joined the board in March of 2022.

[1:51:53] Generally, we receive a packet which has a town manager's report and often provides guidance on what's happening in the packet.

[1:51:59] For the past few meetings, we have have an updated packet that really clearly lays out a head of each piece of information in the packet.

[1:52:14] What

[1:52:16] the anticipated motion is, which I just read aloud, move it to support access as often to renew time manager for senior through December 31, 2027.

[1:52:26] The additional information I also read about the value.

[1:52:30] Operation Project, what's in the contract? And then it says tonight's anticipated discussion is to review the cumulative

[1:52:36] evaluation and comments and exercise to ensure the town manager received at least as far as satisfactory and vote to exercise the option to renew time manager

[1:52:44] Christina through December 31, 2020, 7. So that should not be a surprise to any of the four of us here that that is what one was in the contract and two is as described based on the value, the evaluations that we completed in June.

[1:53:01] or July. So the question is,

[1:53:08] like,

[1:53:10] do we want to second the motion, which is as described,

[1:53:16] which everybody received on Friday and should have been prepared to vote on,

[1:53:22] or are we not

[1:53:23] seconding the motion? We're holding this to the next conversation where we're discussing goals,

[1:53:27] which again is not part of what's in the contract. The contract is very specific to the evaluation itself.

[1:53:39] So if there's not a second, we will postpone it to the next meeting,

[1:53:48] that's also like the town manager at some levels.

[1:53:54] So this is his contract. This is his work needs to agree that we're doing something. This is not within the contract.

[1:54:02] And you know, that may very well be something that we need to kind of really counsel ourselves if we're going to try to do something different.

[1:54:09] It's very much so we're now retraining on the deal.

[1:54:12] Yeah, Chris, go ahead.

[1:54:13] Yeah, if I think that's everything you've done

[1:54:15] a few degrees, please.

[1:54:16] I appreciate that I can give you the all of you on this.

[1:54:19] All positive conversations.

[1:54:22] I, if, if, if, if, if, if,

[1:54:25] if a couple of reasons more when I roll a goal is for another couple of weeks,

[1:54:29] I haven't, I can set out the, I guess we send the package that I sent to all of you

[1:54:33] in July. I know it's been a month.

[1:54:34] I appreciate that.

[1:54:35] I'll send the soft assessment that I prepared back

[1:54:38] to all of you, have it have a conversation in two weeks. It's fine with me. All of you have already done

[1:54:44] your evaluations. I've had a conversation with all of you. I'm comfortable with that. That's fine.

[1:54:52] That's what I want to do. Let's go and wrap this in two weeks. I'm not comfortable with

[1:54:59] that.

[1:54:59] I appreciate that, Chris. But I really have problems presenting. It's like the word that

[1:55:04] does not adhere to its contractual obligations and even if it's easy or takes the temperature

[1:55:12] down, you know, contracts or contracts for a reason. And we agree the terms we should live

[1:55:17] and dive by those terms. And right now, we're setting the example that we don't.

[1:55:27] Yep, Bill, I hear you. There's not a second on this motion right now. So I don't think it's going

[1:55:35] go on your work today and we'll put it on for our next meeting on the 24th.

[1:55:47] So we're going to move on to new business.

[1:55:56] We have a couple things here.

[1:56:02] First, I was going to bounce a little bit out of order and go 3-1-2-4 if because Chris mentioned

[1:56:10] already in his time managers report the November 5th fall town meeting deadlines. So there's been

[1:56:20] communicated internally to staff about an August 28th date to kind of raise any

[1:56:32] potential items I think as close as this work can stay to that August 28th date knowing

[1:56:39] You know, we meet on the 24th and we meet on the 14th, it would be great if we could start to get any potential thoughts about where an items in circulation for our 24th meeting, the warrant closes on the 21st.

[1:56:53] It doesn't mean that between the 24th and the 21st things might not change, but, you know, as soon as we can.

[1:57:04] If there's something kind of formatting as soon as we know what that is, let's get that circulated, so we can kind of help that as a item for agenda for the next meeting, and then probably.

[1:57:19] On to our agenda, we'll have time meeting through it starts in November and then just so we have the calendar in there and the packet, the warrant closes on the 21st.

[1:57:33] It goes to Council on September 29th, motions and backgrounds are due October 1st.

[1:57:39] We will meet on October 5th to vote on the warrant and then we'll go to the printer the next day.

[1:57:46] motion book will get to council on the night and those will be mailed out to town meeting members on the 19th.

[1:57:56] The motion was limited to town meeting members on the 19th.

[1:58:00] People should have the warrant in hand in the mail October 22nd and the motion book should show up a week later.

[1:58:07] So that's the overall calendar.

[1:58:09] We are here again with time meeting such as things to be aware of.

[1:58:19] We have a meeting posted on the 21st, which is a Monday, which is when the warrant closes.

[1:58:26] We anticipate a meeting that day.

[1:58:30] I'm just looking at our next schedule.

[1:58:32] We only have the next two, the 24th and the 14th.

[1:58:35] Yes, basically we would be that following week as well to vote it. It's just a labor day in there. So we I'm just looking at the calendar on my phone. So. Okay. Yeah, the next meeting is December 14th. So potentially, you might have to schedule another one because I think you did that point the 14th from the 28th.

[1:58:58] Okay, so we need to be on the first two to about it. We can do that.

[1:59:08] any further questions on?

[1:59:18] So if you do have any potential

[1:59:22] warrant items that we should be thinking of, let's plan to discuss those out our next meeting.

[1:59:28] I have one for now. Oh, I know. If you'd like to hear it. Sure.

[1:59:32] So it was kind of related to my earlier question in the Morocco Colvert, which is tied into one

[1:59:37] dead exclusion. So Chris, hence the question about the funding and the timing.

[1:59:41] and it was Culver and Morocco Life Extension. I wonder if we shouldn't

[1:59:46] recent some borrowing or authority that's been open since 2021 I believe

[1:59:52] or 2022. So if we think the project is close to done or maybe it would be done

[1:59:57] November what we take it up for the spring.

[2:00:00] But there were some questions from bond council, and when we made another, the last amendment at town meeting, I think we went into this now, three times. So maybe we're not ready on the culvert side. Are we ready in Morocco?

[2:00:11] Life extension sites, since that school is in the MSBA cycle process. Just something to consider, and if there's any other borrowings, that we need to close out. Because that's often when we would do it as full town meeting. So maybe the culvert needs to be up, because what I've done yet, but I'd like us to look at that package.

[2:00:30] Yeah, because it, and I see Stacey still I'm, so I suspect that maybe something that even

[2:00:37] already came ahead with her questions to Chris,

[2:00:46] might go ahead.

[2:00:48] Thanks, Cynthia, one of, I don't know if it would be an article that would be coming

[2:00:54] fall-time meeting that quickly, but one of the things that we've been discussing over

[2:00:59] years pretty regularly is taking back certain private roads and or or the town adopting those

[2:01:08] private roads as public roads and creating an avenue for people to live on certain streets to

[2:01:16] do that. So I've been hearing I think it was a tough winter and I know all of the private roads

[2:01:23] the DPW still maintains and they fill holes and they do that, but I think a lot of them

[2:01:28] are just beyond repair and there's no mechanism that we have in place for those neighborhoods

[2:01:38] to resolve that. There is a process through the state where the neighborhoods would put in

[2:01:47] some money to bring them up to town standards. We would go to town meeting for that proposal

[2:01:52] and then the town would adopt it and then it would become part of our, you know,

[2:01:58] town owned public roads and we would then get chapter 90 money to maintain those in the future.

[2:02:06] So, and I can work with Chris.

[2:02:08] I know I've mentioned it a couple of times it just hasn't hit the ground yet,

[2:02:12] but lately I've been getting a lot of phone calls about this.

[2:02:16] So, certainly we can speak to the TMA and some other members about how to at least

[2:02:23] can they a process that we can recommend, which would be the state process?

[2:02:30] Yeah, so Mike and Michelle, I think it's both of those things that are going to be proposed for

[2:02:36] articles if we can have them for the next packet so that we can review and discuss them if you can

[2:02:45] either summarize and write them up or work with Chris to make sure that you have everything you need to

[2:02:53] particularly thought to the board for our next meeting. That would be great.

[2:02:58] Thank you.

[2:03:03] All right, so we'll move on. The next thing is the State Primary Election Board.

[2:03:09] So we have that our state primary is September, Tuesday, September 1st. We have the draft or we

[2:03:18] have the election warrant for our signatures. I believe that's going to go out in DocuSign.

[2:03:27] I think it is already in Docky, so check your Docky sign next to the woods.

[2:03:34] Okay, Patty's a dot comes to me earlier today.

[2:03:36] Yes.

[2:03:37] Shoot.

[2:03:39] I might be having a Docky sign issue then again.

[2:03:43] Yes.

[2:03:43] Okay.

[2:03:45] As well, I don't know if you want to make it everyone else sign that and I will be last and hopefully

[2:03:51] can figure it out.

[2:03:53] And that worked the last time when I did make it so that you were last. So, um, it will, I'll read to it.

[2:04:01] Okay. Thank you. Sorry. I didn't realize that that, that, that had already been sent. Sure.

[2:04:08] Then, um, towards me first. Um, that said, uh, I know I believe we've, um, revised, uh,

[2:04:17] the spelling of Bill's name in there so we can make a motion to approve and sign the

[2:04:27] warrant. Move that we approve the warrant for approve and sign the warrant for the

[2:04:36] October 2026 State Primary as presented and authorized its posting in service and accordance with

[2:04:41] national laws and the towns applicable requirements.

[2:04:46] Okay.

[2:04:47] Okay.

[2:04:48] Well, call the bill.

[2:04:50] I'm like.

[2:04:52] Yes.

[2:04:53] Michelle?

[2:04:54] Yes.

[2:04:55] All right.

[2:04:55] I vote.

[2:04:55] Yes, as well.

[2:05:00] Also, thank you.

[2:05:01] Thank you, Mary Ellen.

[2:05:02] Because her office is going to be doing a lot of work.

[2:05:04] I'll go between now and September first.

[2:05:09] All right.

[2:05:09] So we have an impact.

[2:05:12] There's just something that Bill had pulled together from a suggestion for kickoff for a

[2:05:18] long range financial planning committee and basically this is just sort of working around

[2:05:29] a kickoff meeting and having kind of a survey for that kickoff meeting for the members

[2:05:35] of that meeting.

[2:05:36] So, Bill, I will turn it over to you on-

[2:05:39] Yeah. There's not much more than that. Um, obviously we need to figure out who else we're

[2:05:45] pointing at or next meeting. Uh, but this is just a way of collecting best times for

[2:05:50] all of our members to meet, so we can find that time and get it going. I also lifted, uh, the same

[2:05:57] survey questions that were recently used by the Affordable Housing Trust to prepare and structure

[2:06:03] there. Recently, we are getting meeting. It was very, very successful. A lot of people walked

[2:06:11] out of it, saying that it helped organize the discussion and pointed in a very productive

[2:06:16] direction. So we actually started talking about what needed to be done and not just where we

[2:06:20] know still. So instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, I figured it was a good opportunity to use

[2:06:28] that same process here, as we also tried to find times

[2:06:32] for the long-term financial planning committee survey,

[2:06:34] long-term financial planning committee,

[2:06:36] it actually would need.

[2:06:43] So as the other select board member on this committee,

[2:06:46] I hadn't seen the survey, though I appreciate

[2:06:48] we need to get some times.

[2:06:50] We did, as I mentioned earlier,

[2:06:52] we were interviewing Jean-Deptaste.

[2:06:54] We did have a view of the model, the model on July 29th,

[2:06:57] then I went on vacation August 1st.

[2:07:01] The goal would be bill, and I know I did not circle back with you on that either, but that generally, my sense in the model meeting, we had a couple of school committee people, the two at large members, Chris was able to make it Stacy was not.

[2:07:15] I think people that are there have reached their hands and volunteered to be there.

[2:07:18] I think what people's personal contributions could be is a great question, but I think everyone that kind of raised their hand has shown their interest in why.

[2:07:25] So, we can still survey, or we can do whatever, but as...

[2:07:30] Is it relates to the pick-off meeting to launch when we get the last at large member? I would like us to sort of, if it's going to be in person versus a high, you know, some in person, some on Zoom. I'd like it to potentially be at the end of a work day, like a Monday, late afternoon or early evening, maybe on a Monday that we don't have a meeting, or a Tuesday or Wednesday, right after town hall closes, so that town staff, like Stacey and Chris and whoever Chris's office may need to attend, and school superintendent and finance director can,

[2:07:59] not have to dial back in or stay in town if we expect to be in person that you know most of the time.

[2:08:05] So I'd like to have that as a consideration like a four or five six o'clock.

[2:08:10] On a Monday or right after you know the day ends.

[2:08:14] So that's I'd said that to the few folks that were there from the model conversation.

[2:08:18] I'd like to sort of see if we can't land in that time frame.

[2:08:22] I'm happy to do that Michelle.

[2:08:24] That's best for my schedule as well.

[2:08:26] And when this is finalized and put out, we can limit the options so that we steer people at that direction.

[2:08:34] I think it's best for everybody else and you're right.

[2:08:38] Yeah, so I was going to I was going to share that update tonight that that was that we had the model update that we tried to land on managed expectations on late afternoon kinds of meetings that we likely have one of the large members

[2:08:52] willing to hold the model along with potentially one of the fincon members, and we do want to bring

[2:08:58] Stacy back in as well. She wasn't able to join us. She was on vacation that I went on vacation,

[2:09:02] but we should think about who were the keepers. We don't have too many people and they were at the

[2:09:06] authority. So we can work through some of those details in the first meeting as well.

[2:09:13] So why don't it sounds like the two of you should coordinate with Chris was easy finding those

[2:09:19] in times to kind of nail that piece down and then Michelle if you have any additional feedback

[2:09:27] with the bill on kind of the survey I understand from folks who attended that age team meeting

[2:09:36] that they believe appreciated being able to kind of articulate why they why they were there or

[2:09:44] of what kind of lay things out on the table.

[2:09:49] First, so if there's other things,

[2:09:52] maybe they too, do you can look together on just sort of this?

[2:09:57] Kick off agenda survey timing, peace.

[2:10:03] Yep, let's note on the day,

[2:10:04] and I think we can figure out the invite

[2:10:06] and the questions to walk in with the answers too.

[2:10:09] But make sense.

[2:10:10] I'm really great.

[2:10:11] I'll be in touch with you Michelle.

[2:10:13] Give me some time,

[2:10:14] because I'm about to go international.

[2:10:17] Yeah.

[2:10:17] And I have applications.

[2:10:19] Okay.

[2:10:20] All right.

[2:10:21] Tag your situation.

[2:10:22] What it feels like in every week.

[2:10:24] Someone else.

[2:10:25] All right.

[2:10:26] I can do that.

[2:10:32] So the last thing that we have had

[2:10:34] of me as business ahead of minutes is

[2:10:39] thinking of developing some select board norms.

[2:10:44] Anthony had or Kristen Anthony kind of had some familiarity

[2:10:47] with a couple different examples that they've pulled in from Nidak and from Brookline, something we've

[2:10:56] talked about a little bit, as we talk about select board goals and our kind of long-term things that we're

[2:11:19] thinking that Bill and Mike could work together on taking these documents that we have

[2:11:29] native bookline taking a look at them seeing if there's anything else that might come

[2:11:32] through the MMA and trying to nail down a similar one-pager for us as a select board

[2:11:41] that can be shared back with the board for comments and feedback and consideration.

[2:11:48] Yeah, thanks, Cynthia, for putting this on, you know, I've been asking for a while, you know,

[2:11:55] over the years, and it's just one of those things that was, we would just get so busy, and

[2:12:01] it was kind of like so important that we didn't want to just rush it, and so it does take a

[2:12:06] little bit of intention, and I think focusing on our governance at this point makes sense.

[2:12:12] So happy to work with Bill on it.

[2:12:14] We've already talked a little bit about it and I know Keras sent over some of these examples

[2:12:20] from other communities, but it's kind of, you know, we Bill and I can put some information

[2:12:27] forward, but kind of, I guess, similar to the survey strategy to see what everybody thinks

[2:12:33] first with some ideas of whether communities do and then put together our own, which will

[2:12:39] always change. I know the school committees have the benefit of having theirs established

[2:12:43] and they change those from time to time and but it's good to kind of just kind of set

[2:12:51] up the playing field and get everybody on the same page. So thank you.

[2:12:58] It's like

[2:13:04] anything to add there.

[2:13:07] No, I mean this is this is overdue. I think getting a document that can become a discussion is

[2:13:13] important thing. And I see a lot of good inspiration from the examples that Anthony sent on.

[2:13:20] So I'm glad to get this going.

[2:13:25] Uh, I, since I know you're, um,

[2:13:28] haven't lately been country, uh, this might take more than the next two weeks.

[2:13:32] So I expect this probably not on our packet on the 24th, but maybe come back

[2:13:35] around to us in September. Um, so we'll just stay in touch on on timeline for that.

[2:13:41] but I appreciate the willingness to take this on

[2:13:46] and kind of get us a good document

[2:13:48] that we can start to put with.

[2:13:51] You have my go ahead.

[2:13:53] Yeah, the only thing I would say is maybe

[2:13:54] beven on is a kind of static item for the next several meetings,

[2:13:58] just kind of as like an update just so it's there in case

[2:14:01] we want to put some information there,

[2:14:04] just so the community can have some visibility to it

[2:14:06] because I hear a lot from people say,

[2:14:09] hey, why don't you do this or so and so?

[2:14:11] as long as people see that we're working on it and can weigh in as well and be involved,

[2:14:16] I think that'll be helpful. But to your point, I think, you know, no real significant action items

[2:14:23] at our next meeting. So that's good. Then the last piece that we have is

[2:14:36] minutes, so these are minutes from June 15th, 1829, and then July 27th meetings.

[2:14:44] We're not interested to look at those if there's any edits there or we can approve those.

[2:14:54] I'll move the slide board approves the minutes from June 15th, June 18th, June 29th.

[2:15:00] And July 27, 2026, second.

[2:15:06] Any discussion?

[2:15:11] Roll call, Michelle? Aye. Mike? Yes. Bill? Aye. I vote, yes, as well.

[2:15:22] So we said it at a number of times,

[2:15:24] or meeting on Monday, August 24th, we will plan to be back in person on the 24th and then meeting on Monday, September 14th.

[2:15:34] of their things that come up around town meeting.

[2:15:38] Let's try to get those in the packet for their 24th,

[2:15:41] since I bought the tree meeting,

[2:15:43] the tree hearing for a 612 main street at that time,

[2:15:47] as well.

[2:15:51] And I know for a lot of things.

[2:15:54] No one are unknown, we'll show up.

[2:15:57] So are we gonna take a motion to adjourn?

[2:16:01] Mike, is your hand up for a reason before we adjourn?

[2:16:06] No, sorry.

[2:16:07] more than you should. I was like wow. I lost my picture of me on my screen so I didn't see

[2:16:14] that I still have it up. Sorry.

[2:16:17] Motion to which are. I can't second.

[2:16:20] Okay, roll call. All right, yes. Yes. Yes, as well. All right. Thank you everyone. Have a good night.

[2:16:31] Thank you, Patty, for keeping the Zoom running and thank you again for posting this.

[2:16:36] They found Bill.

[2:16:37] Thank you.

[2:16:38] Thanks Chris.

[2:16:39] Enjoy your trip though.

[2:16:41] Thank you all.

[2:16:42] See you back.

Winchester Select Board 8-10-26

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