Transcript
SOURCE TRANSCRIPT
This transcript is downloaded from the source you provided but we haven't reviewed it for accuracy. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record. You can also request an AI-transcription of the audio file with the button to the left.
These are YouTube's auto-generated captions, not a human transcript — expect occasional errors, especially with names and technical terms.
[0:02]
call the council meeting
of Lake for Wednesday
[0:15]
February United
[0:19]
States stand
[0:23]
naisy and
[0:28]
Justice roll call
D here G
[0:33]
herei here here here Newman
[0:47]
here approval of the agenda motion to
approve the agenda as
[0:57]
presented you hear me yes Kaki yes labor
yes mcnut yes Newman yes O'Brien yes do
[1:08]
yes
correspondences one from uh car
[1:15]
wman by the charity program get
started
[1:20]
participating we have two froming
[1:34]
report motion to receive and file as
presented
[1:41]
second all in favor
[1:46]
iOS uh first call the public it's an
opportunity for citizens to address the
[1:50]
csil on agenda items only
[Music]
[2:08]
favor even my name
[2:14]
is
I have a
[2:19]
letter here tonight to
rec General legal service prosecu
[2:25]
Services doesn't make sense um as you
know General phosy
[2:30]
um served the village for 2 years joined
our firm as a council
[2:37]
this keeping prosecutions with our firm
is efficient and right thing to do it's
[2:44]
efficient benefits both us and you why
because for one thing for us selfish it
[2:51]
is easier to zoning issue and there's a
ordinance issue things like that we can
[2:57]
work on an inhouse more efficient that
efficienty also translates to you all it
[3:03]
saves time it saves money not to mention
you also AR think two attorneys talk to
[3:08]
each our when we work on a project we
don't bu unless it's extremely unique
[3:14]
situation almost
never we have the ability to provide you
[3:18]
an outstanding prosecutor John Kumer of
our office has been Prosecuting for
[3:22]
years he has glowing recommendations for
every judge and every police officer
[3:27]
he's ever working with so I'm not
concerned about providing you good
[3:30]
quality prosecution of Health
Services Jennifer and predecessors have
[3:35]
served eligible R my understanding for
since the 1950s and they've done that
[3:40]
with prosecutions and uh General
Services together it seems inefficient
[3:46]
and nonsensical to support them now at
least in my opinion I realize this isn't
[3:52]
a time for Q&A but I wanted to share my
thoughts with you and I will remain here
[3:56]
for meeting till that agenda items pass
and should you have want to ask any
[3:59]
question
thank you thank
[4:16]
you Dave Renwick 685 Amenia I'd like to
welcome Aon laborne to
[4:24]
council and uh Aon welcome back you made
it
[4:31]
uh and Jennifer however this comes
out my opinion when I was on Council of
[4:37]
you was great it still is it always has
been um it's it's your guys choice
[4:46]
but you got the Cadillac right there
so
[4:53]
uh oh before I launch into my idiocy I
wanted to I don't like ambushing people
[5:01]
and I'm not trying to Ambush Mike
uh the intersection at Penny Lake and
[5:07]
Wolverine Drive the patch that was put
across there is literally falling
[5:13]
apart I mean it's a bump to run so this
this is probably the project that will
[5:19]
never end but uh bless you all for
trying and if somebody conceded that
[5:25]
that would be
great the reason the reason I really
[5:30]
came tonight though is uh the
uh last month the auditor was here and
[5:37]
there was there was a I I appreciate the
vagueness with which I was described but
[5:44]
uh there was a
comment made and asked uh about the uh
[5:51]
excessiveness of the fund balance and
this and that and I I'm just here to say
[5:56]
that of course an auditor is going to
tell you that it's not excessive
[6:00]
Auditors love money for you to have
money that's a wonderful
[6:05]
thing
but not for the
[6:09]
people the people need
a balanced budget a fair
[6:17]
budget one that is not excessive
and I would respectfully suggest that
[6:26]
you asked the wrong person the last time
I I would respectfully
[6:32]
suggest that someone preferably the
administrator contact the
[6:39]
MML and include that paper that I sent
to everyone on Council I'm sorry Erin
[6:44]
you were not included
but uh send that paper that shows what
[6:51]
the excesses have been over the last oh
God 14 years now
[6:59]
and ask the
MML if they consider it excessive
[7:04]
they're the guys that you go to when you
sue somebody they're the guys that you
[7:08]
go to for legal advice outside of your
attorney ask the
[7:16]
MML because I truly believe they will
not give you the answer that the auditor
[7:24]
did
and
[7:28]
in talking about this with
uh an
[7:33]
acquaintance they asked if the village
is aware of
[7:38]
gasb
54 which I had never heard of
[7:45]
before yeah gby is all the governmental
accounting regulations that were held to
[7:51]
and we're we are up to date on all that
and and Raina is um she is really she's
[7:58]
the one who likes is our auditor of all
of our gasby items we have we have many
[8:04]
of them that's just one of them so the
village has a fund balance policy right
[8:11]
now um I I know this isn't question and
answer and I apologize yeah I'm sure we
[8:17]
do I'm I'm sure we have a fund balance
policy on I have never seen a fund
[8:23]
balance policy and a fund balance policy
actually breaks it down apparently I I
[8:29]
just found about about this two nights
ago but it breaks down your fund balance
[8:35]
into five or six different
categories rather than one or two rather
[8:43]
than I can't even remember the words now
but uh right now we've got like one
[8:49]
that's restricted and one that's not
there's a general and a restricted fund
[8:54]
and no there's like five or six that
that you should have
[8:59]
and we don't and and we should not be
collecting money and then figuring out
[9:05]
what to do with it we should be figuring
out what money we need and collecting
[9:11]
that
money so that's that's just that's my
[9:17]
point and uh I will I will send along
like I said I just figured this out last
[9:23]
night about 1 in the
[9:27]
morning okay
thank
[9:33]
you motion to
close else
[9:39]
second by second by Brian Moos all in
favor
[9:49]
opposed move our cons set
agenda motion to approve as
[9:56]
presented second motion by s by
jerini roll
[10:03]
call ki yes playboard yes mot yes Newman
yes O'Brien yes DC yes Jeremy
[10:13]
yes board appointments we don't have
any so now we're on to our presentations
[10:23]
and oh yes thank you
Council um I I do want to thank Mr
[10:29]
Renwick because he did point out
something that I have been dealing with
[10:35]
um in my travels around the village when
I find some problems I immediately take
[10:39]
action as quickly as I can I have uh a
picture here and I showed the council
[10:45]
people here a picture of the
intersection that uh Mr Renwick was
[10:49]
concerned about and my uh immediate
response was to contact the contractor
[10:55]
responsible for that because in the
village we hold the contractor
[10:58]
responsible for U all the paving up to a
year in advance or up to a year
[11:03]
afterwards and um this is a quality
contractor so Mr Harold sarder said I've
[11:09]
got it uh that will be fixed to no
charge this spring so I wanted Council
[11:14]
to know that uh uh that will be taken
care of this
[11:18]
spring and as I've represented the
council before U All the Monies that are
[11:24]
being held from our major Paving program
last uh year uh I will be reviewing all
[11:30]
of the roads and calling to attention a
parts that need to be repaired by that
[11:35]
contractor as well and those be taken
care of this spring as well so uh wanted
[11:40]
to assure the council that we're on top
of that um the the only other item uh
[11:45]
because it's a a slow winter um is that
um I wanted to bring you up to date on
[11:51]
the Clara Miller Park cycling challenge
area um this last Monday um I called Mr
[11:59]
Mark Russo who had said that he was
going to maintain his equipment and do
[12:06]
that this spring when I called him on
Monday he said Mike I forgot to call you
[12:12]
uh he was he was given an offer on his
equipment and he sold it all so uh he
[12:18]
told me that he is not available this
spring to do that um not wanting to be
[12:25]
dependent on just one person however
this is a list of all the contractor
[12:29]
we've sent that uh request to it's 19
contractors one of which uh we received
[12:36]
a uh a price back already five of which
have called me with
[12:42]
questions um some of them uh it's too
small a project for them um but I have
[12:49]
um the the one quote let me back up just
a little bit Mark Russo had estimated
[12:53]
that project that somewhere between $8
and $10,000 to do uh Superior I got to
[12:59]
be a little bit careful
here
[13:03]
their quote was in that ballpark so he
had quoted it properly and so um I
[13:10]
wanted to U make sure that Council knew
that um we're looking to have uh more
[13:16]
quotes for you none of them wanted to do
it in the winter time so they were all
[13:20]
looking to get out there in Spring move
equipment there uh before frost laws are
[13:24]
off but um I'm hoping to end up with
four or five more uh quotes um but
[13:30]
that's the latest and greatest what's
going on in the village so unless you
[13:35]
add more questions I will yield the
floor to the
[13:41]
president thank you any
[13:46]
questions a whole pile of material there
just waiting to be moved around yes
[13:52]
that's
right okay thank you
[13:55]
Mike have uh no public hearings so uh
new
[14:00]
business there administrative committee
[14:05]
recommendations ccil we have uh three
recommendations tonight for you to
[14:10]
consider from the administrative
committee the committee is its form now
[14:15]
it's uh president protm Duff council
member Newman and uh council member
[14:21]
O'Brien um the first recommendation that
comes forward um I guess indirectly so
[14:27]
to speak has to do with the citizen of
the Year award as I've explained in my
[14:32]
memo dated February 7th um
when the committee reviewed the
[14:39]
nominations that had been received for
citizen of the Year there was a question
[14:44]
in the committee's mind as to whether or
not the one nominee Fred meiser who is a
[14:49]
member of the memorial committee was
actually eligible to be named as the
[14:55]
citizen of the year because of the fact
that he is on the Memorial committee so
[15:01]
um based upon that issue at that time uh
there was um basically a recommendation
[15:08]
for Mr Meisner not to be named citizen
of the year not because of anything he
[15:13]
did or didn't do but other than the fact
that um he is a member of the uh the
[15:17]
Veterans Memorial committee U Mr Duff I
don't know if you have anything you want
[15:22]
to add to that we just again of felt
like um the citizen of the Year
[15:26]
shouldn't necessarily be um named for
either being a chairperson of a board or
[15:33]
being because they're on a board it
should be something that they're
[15:36]
actually doing to help the
community as a whole so it's kind of the
[15:42]
way we thought it
so and then um subsequent to that I had
[15:49]
a chance to to do a little bit of
homework so to speak and um there is
[15:54]
some precedent for a member of a border
committee um to be named as the citizen
[16:00]
of the year um as I indicated in in the
memo I put together for you um Lyn Lewis
[16:06]
who was the chair of the uh Parks and
Recreation board back in
[16:11]
2015 was named as the citizen of the
year um in addition Ron Krueger who was
[16:16]
named in
2011 um was at the time a member of the
[16:20]
Veterans Memorial committee um Ron
Krueger's name came up in the course of
[16:26]
the conversation that we had at the
admin administrative committee meeting
[16:30]
that night but none of us was certain
whether Ron had actually been on the
[16:34]
board or was just Consulting with the
board at that point in time so but as it
[16:39]
turns out based upon my review of the
records um he was in fact on the
[16:45]
Veterans Memorial committee at the time
that he was named citizen of the year so
[16:50]
there is a proposed resolution contained
in the memo if um that's the council's
[16:56]
wish otherwise the uh the recommendation
or the non-
[17:01]
reccommendation uh from the um
administrative committee based upon
[17:05]
their understanding um would
[17:12]
stand motion to name run or Fred meiser
the 2024 citizen of the Year
[17:19]
second motion by jimy second by O'Brien
uh roll call mayborn yes n yes Newman
[17:28]
yes O'Brien yes D yes K yes Cas NE yes
[17:37]
very and here yep and I will reach out
to Mr meiser and we'll make arrangements
[17:43]
to ass is available to have them here at
the March meeting so we can formally
[17:52]
recognize number
two uh the second has to do with the uh
[17:58]
prosecuting Attorney Services for the
village and just so everyone is clear um
[18:03]
we're not uh talking about getting a new
Village attorney per se salowski and the
[18:08]
firm that she's um associated with right
now of council to right now um would
[18:14]
continue to be the village attorney what
we're talking about now is whether or
[18:18]
not um or which law firm uh would in
fact serve as the village prosecuting
[18:25]
attorney um The Firm that had previously
served as a village prosecuting attorney
[18:30]
as such does not exist anymore and is
not eligible to continue with those
[18:35]
Services um I had sent out requests for
proposals to a number of area law firms
[18:41]
and the two that we received was were
from first the Atkinson need firm but uh
[18:47]
Mr rrop is here on behalf of tonight
again with whom um galowski is currently
[18:54]
of councel and the other is the law firm
of Rosati Schultz Chic at amps buler
[19:00]
which is located in Farmington Hills um
both are very good firms uh both would
[19:05]
be capable of doing the work um the
prior administrative committee um which
[19:11]
was uh then president nedro uh president
protm Duff and councilman orrian looked
[19:19]
at the issue back in uh November and
their recommendation at that time was
[19:25]
that the Rosati firm be awarded the
contract given that the uh the committee
[19:31]
reformed so to speak um with the seating
of the new
[19:35]
Council again now it's uh Duff um Newman
in O'Brien we took the issue back to the
[19:42]
administrative committee last month and
the committee again comes back with the
[19:47]
same recommendation to award the
contract to uh the Rosati Law Firm so Mr
[19:53]
Duff I know if you anything you want to
add to that um if Council has any
[19:57]
questions um
um I was part of the of the
[20:00]
administrative committee meetings Chief
sovic was also part of the
[20:03]
administrative committee meetings if you
have any questions You' be able to try
[20:07]
to answer
[20:15]
those Chief could you elaborate a little
bit on your experience with the uh Law
[20:20]
Firm yes with the uh the secondary uh
secondary Law Firm um the prosecutor
[20:27]
Chuck Snell uh worked with him for many
years at the city of South Lion for 30
[20:32]
years um he's fairly he's very very
competent represents not only just more
[20:37]
than just our agencies but other police
departments um very responsive um very
[20:42]
personable he's established great
relationships with the judges here at
[20:45]
521 as well as other um district courts
um defense attorneys um he works very
[20:52]
well with the court Second District
Court um comes highly recommended by
[20:56]
Alex Black the court administrator over
there and um I just feel we should
[21:00]
probably just continue to move forward
with him um several trials at the uh at
[21:05]
the felony circuit court level very
successful has a great reputation and
[21:12]
for many years when I was a South Line
he was the city's attorney so no issues
[21:16]
no problems very responsive and need
something that gets back with you right
[21:20]
away thank you make a motion that we
approve a resolution to adopt radi as
[21:26]
the prosecuting attorney service for
the
[21:33]
second motion by second by
Newman um s aoll
[21:41]
call yes O'Brien yes do yes jini yes
Ki uh yes mayborn yes MCN uh yes
[21:59]
the third recommendation from the
administrative committee has to do with
[22:03]
um compensation for the villages to
administrative assistance um as I
[22:08]
indicated in the memo that I prepared
for you um last
[22:13]
year um during the course of contract
negotiations with The Village's two
[22:18]
bargaining units um we were able to
reach agreements the negotiating
[22:22]
committee at that time had recommended
that the nonunion employees receive the
[22:27]
same w increases that the members of the
two bargaining units were going to
[22:33]
receive for the
2526 uh fiscal year um in doing so
[22:39]
though the negotiating committee
recognized that the um the amount of
[22:45]
compensation the wages that were being
paid to the two administrative
[22:50]
assistants really were um were deficient
that they were out of whack in terms of
[22:55]
um what comparable employees and other
communities were making um not
[23:02]
consistent with uh uh the number of
years of experience that both of them
[23:06]
had with the village in the scope of
their responsibilities here at Village
[23:11]
on a day-to-day basis having said that
the in recommending that the
[23:16]
administrative assistants receive the
same amount of
[23:19]
compensation um as of July of last year
uh the committee also recommended at
[23:25]
that time that we take another look at
the two employees compensation at the
[23:29]
end of the fiscal year so um that's what
we did um I went and looked at the
[23:35]
updated the 24 25 wage and salary survey
survey that's been prepared by the
[23:41]
Michigan Municipal League which it is a
um a voluntary survey um communities
[23:48]
that are members of The League don't
have to provide the data but the
[23:52]
trade-off is if you want to have access
to the data you have to provide it to
[23:56]
them so um my position is that we've
always participated I've always provided
[24:01]
the data because I think the data that I
have received in return from the MML has
[24:06]
been very important in terms of our
negotiations and the way that we've
[24:11]
treated our employees so I went back
over the wage and salary survey U put
[24:17]
together some information about what
other employees and other communities
[24:22]
have comparable titles and comparable
responsibilities um are currently being
[24:27]
paid um um I had emailed that in
response to everybody in response to a
[24:32]
request I received from Mr jini earlier
in the week in addition there's a hard
[24:37]
copy of the information that I put
together um at the table for everyone
[24:43]
tonight um the reason I listed a number
of different positions there is
[24:49]
because what one person with one title
in one community may do in another
[24:54]
Community is could be very same or very
different what someone in another
[24:59]
Community with the very same job title
does so um I I covered a VAR of a
[25:05]
variety of of
positions the one thing that struck me
[25:09]
going through there is that um for the
most part I mean with with maybe one or
[25:13]
two outliers um our administrative
assistants are among the lowest paid of
[25:19]
all the um the employees that are listed
so the discussion we had at the
[25:24]
administrative committee led to a
resolution that the two administratives
[25:28]
received receive a 3% wage
increase um for this year going forward
[25:33]
that is retroactive to January 1st of
2025 then in addition um when the other
[25:41]
contracts come up for um for review in
uh the middle of the year then I would
[25:46]
expect that we'll take another look at
their compensation going forward at that
[25:50]
point in time as well so but at this
point in time the recommendation from
[25:54]
the admin committee is that the
administrative assistant get a three %
[25:58]
wage increase retroactive to January 1
make a motion that we approve the
[26:03]
resolution put forth to um change the
administrative committee or
[26:08]
administrative assistance to receive an
additional 3% retroactive to January 1
[26:13]
2025
second by by Newman I have a comment
[26:19]
before we vote um if if I understand
your chart Dave and I thank you Mark for
[26:25]
asking for this and Dave for supplying
it they still are the lowest PID and I
[26:31]
don't think it's enough I think it needs
to be more than what you're proposing
[26:37]
more than
3% and I'm not a
[26:42]
mathematician but just rounded it off I
would say you know 24 not 23 16 but
[26:50]
24 and then relook at again in the
summer
[27:00]
I mean my goodness I would agree with
Pam and also say I just have a question
[27:04]
when was the last time that they had
that pay increase is that an annual
[27:08]
thing is
it it's dur During the period of time
[27:13]
that I've been here so for the last four
years um um the administrative
[27:18]
assistance have received an increase
every July the same as the the members
[27:22]
of the bargaining units in so um and
again they received the 5% in increase
[27:29]
last July that all the members of The
Bargain unit did they'll receive a 4%
[27:33]
increase in the upcoming July same as
the other members of the bargaining
[27:37]
units are what we're talking about now
is something potentially above and
[27:41]
beyond with the members of the
bargaining units this would be the first
[27:45]
time that we've addressed their
compensation outside of the
[27:49]
normal uh contract cycle if you will so
they did have an increase in July yeah
[27:56]
so this is a second one that
we talked about it that time because we
[28:01]
recognize that and so so that' be a
total of
[28:05]
7% this year or a total last year plus
July so since
[28:13]
July but it's still if if your numbers
are right here you know with that mix on
[28:18]
a yearly basis they are still quite a
bit underpaid and I still think it's not
[28:22]
well that's partially because when
you're starting from a lower base any
[28:26]
kind of a percentage increase is just
not going to be as significant as a
[28:29]
fixed number that would better reflect
appropriate compensation so when you're
[28:35]
raising 7% off of say 20 as opposed to
7% off of 30 the 30 is going to be look
[28:41]
much larger because that 7% of 30 is uh
2121 but so it's it's going to be higher
[28:50]
or $2 and so it would be a significant
increase in that sense so since we are
[28:54]
starting at a lower number and since
they were as we're seeing
[28:58]
undercompensated relative to other
municipalities based on this data at
[29:03]
least it doesn't matter what percentage
we necessarily do because it's still
[29:07]
going to lag as opposed to doing it in a
more as a whole number true but you also
[29:13]
have to understand that anything that we
do the other the other um collective
[29:18]
bargaining units are going to also be
able to take and ask
[29:23]
for a whole
[29:29]
but they're also unionized entity
carrying a pension and other things as
[29:33]
well other significant benefits no
argument
[29:36]
there so in July they'll be do front of
four right correct so there's five and
[29:42]
then another four plus is three in the
year's time so that's why um we had this
[29:49]
one because we recognized at that trying
to bring that was and so that's why it
[29:55]
was you know so you're saying 3% now now
4% in July additional 4% in
[30:02]
July well that's why this came up
because we did
[30:05]
recognize where it was
at wanted to uh see if we could write
[30:11]
it
[30:14]
correctly well and if it appears that uh
um the administrative assistants are
[30:19]
still
undercompensated then we could take
[30:22]
another look at it um at the end of the
year basically as we're doing right now
[30:27]
I mean again they'll have an increase in
July assuming that Council gives them
[30:31]
the same things that all the bargaining
unit employees get which I would expect
[30:36]
Council will because that's what we've
traditionally done but then if
[30:40]
compensation is still an issue then we
could look at it again in a year's time
[30:44]
as
well but whatever I mean if Council
[30:49]
wants to move forward with more than
3% I'm certainly not going to object I'm
[30:54]
not going to argue against it I mean if
you want to set it as a flat rate you
[30:57]
can do it I mean um I see the work that
the that the two employees do every day
[31:02]
and um and I think I've said this before
um they make my job a thousand times
[31:09]
easier um they make me look good based
upon the um the calls that they field
[31:15]
and the information that they provide to
people at the counter um and if if one
[31:21]
or both of them are away from their desk
and someone comes up to the counter I
[31:26]
normally will get up and greet them just
they don't feel like they're being
[31:29]
ignored but I have no idea to take care
of what people need most of the time I
[31:34]
mean if it wasn't for page and Tabitha
to be perfectly honest The Village
[31:39]
operations would come to a screeching H
well so I'm not going to argue if you
[31:43]
want to give them
more if we if in June we have the 4%
[31:49]
increase the top compensation there will
be over
[31:51]
24 yes just will be over 25 at that
point yes
[32:00]
CU I think that's that should be the
[32:04]
[Music]
[32:09]
minimum I mean when you sit here and you
think that you know flipping bur and
[32:13]
McDonald's is what $15 an hour
[32:19]
now I would just like to add that as
someone who's work at other
[32:25]
municipalities the things that tab and
page to like if you walk through White
[32:31]
Lake Township for instance you pass a
building department that's got three
[32:36]
people in it you pass a Treasurer's
Department that's got two clerks not
[32:41]
including the treasurer or the deputy
they've got two clerks in there you walk
[32:45]
to the assessing you walk over to the
there's another office for zoning and
[32:50]
planning they can do every one of those
jobs they could go over the township and
[32:54]
they could fit in any one of those jobs
because they are skilled in all all
[32:58]
those areas so it sounds to me that all
more reason that this isn't enough
[33:07]
yeah I mean I don't want to vote no and
have them not get a race I don't want to
[33:12]
do that but I definitely think they
deserve more than what you're suggesting
[33:17]
or what the what the
um proposed is the
[33:24]
propos order to call for the vote
discussion can't do anything in terms of
[33:30]
this
[33:34]
motion
discuss all right we
[33:42]
call oh I'm
saying We Roll Call yeah if
[33:47]
not I'm going say no on that one I think
it should be more
[33:53]
you no orrian
[34:02]
yes go yes your meaning no Ki no mayor
[34:13]
no so now make a motion with the new
number right some kind of a positive
[34:19]
motion yes yes all
right my gut feel is to at least start
[34:24]
at
24 uh um for the first one you know and
[34:31]
then maybe you know it's 23 for the
second one does it need to be a percent
[34:35]
you a percent doesn't have to be a
percent it could be a flat
[34:42]
figure anybody have any thoughts I don't
want to make a motion and go through
[34:47]
this again
number well just from a p purely a
[34:51]
mathematical standpoint um there's going
to be about $2 wor of separation after
[34:58]
July well we just nied 3% so it was
going to be slightly more than 24 for
[35:04]
the highest one with about a two $2
degree of separation with the three and
[35:08]
the four so now the three is gone
which
[35:14]
um roughly about 7 70 cents on the
highest one um I see an issue going to a
[35:21]
a flat dollar rate when you have people
making different amounts I'm good with
[35:25]
the percentage bill just that
I I'm I I don't know what that
[35:30]
percentage number would be more your B
I'm just looking at it well to get the
[35:34]
lowest person with a $2 disparity to get
the lowest person to 24 you're going to
[35:39]
have to get the highest person to right
consider you know higher so you kind of
[35:44]
have to decide that's why I thought we
were in a good spot because they were
[35:47]
going to be you
know you know relatively good but um so
[35:55]
I mean I'm I'm open to suggestions I
don't know what what what it is that
[35:59]
we're trying to
[36:03]
accomplish
I inste of
[36:11]
three PM just as a point of reference if
you took the the higher wage listed and
[36:17]
you gave it
a 6 and
[36:21]
23% wage
increase um that would put it up at
[36:26]
2397 that would must be 24 that's before
the 4% right okay that's that's as it
[36:32]
stands right now that's correct okay
that's correct yeah that would take the
[36:35]
current wage up to just under $24 an
hour what 6 point what to a
[36:45]
6.6% okay wage
increase all right so I'll make a
[36:51]
motion uh that the admins you see the an
increase in pay 6.6%
[36:58]
we we reacted back to January first of
this year I'll
[37:05]
second have a that lebor for was second
for an increase of Which percentage 6.6
[37:19]
6.6 have a roll
call O'Brian yes D yes here meeting yes
[37:27]
yes Nei yes RoR yes MN yes Newman
[37:43]
yes I like to comment on the in general
um when things go to the admin committee
[37:51]
and when they don't I feel like with a
council of seven having three people
[37:56]
then providing information to four
it really should only be at times when
[38:00]
as a council of seven we say we need to
refer this to admin committee for more
[38:05]
in for more detail more research more
due due diligence as opposed to like
[38:11]
what we just saw today where and two of
these three we had in the citizen of the
[38:16]
year you had we had a slightly disputed
issue where if it had been brought
[38:21]
before Council in general I could have
told you that previous winners had been
[38:25]
on boards in fact Monique mgee was also
on the historical committee the year for
[38:28]
the year that she woned and then in this
case with the admin committee or with
[38:33]
the administrative assistant
compensation we saw that there was a
[38:36]
great deal more to discuss
and instead we're operating without as
[38:41]
much information as a the four of us
that were not on that committee because
[38:45]
we weren't there for all those
discussions and so I think look going
[38:48]
forward it would make more sense that
rather than just having issues by
[38:52]
default go to the administrative
committee Council makes that
[38:55]
determination as a whole that yeah we do
need more
[38:58]
uh time looked into it we need need more
information from somebody to put a
[39:02]
little more time into that and figure
things out cu at this point it seems
[39:05]
like it's a little messy and not quite
getting the results that we
[39:16]
need if I could maybe make a comment or
a suggestion yes um we're um planning
[39:23]
and I expect later on in this meeting
we're going to be setting a work session
[39:27]
m for the 26 for two weeks from tonight
and one of the things that um I have
[39:33]
roughed out in terms of the discussion
points for that meeting would be
[39:37]
discussion about um whether or not we
need to have a policy in terms of board
[39:43]
and committee
membership um based upon some some
[39:47]
feedback that I've gotten from
Individual council members since the
[39:52]
December meeting when the board and
committee appointments were made so um
[39:57]
if that's something that is a general
topic that Council thinks would be
[40:02]
appropriate for for discussion at the
work session in a couple weeks and
[40:06]
specifically we could have discussion
about what the council envisions the
[40:10]
role of the administrative committee to
be
[40:13]
and um how matters end up before the
administrative committee I think what
[40:18]
Mark is talking about is different and
has been done in the past but that
[40:22]
doesn't mean to say that it can't be
done that
[40:30]
how is that the work session it's on
February 26th yes correct
[40:35]
one and you're going to be gone yes
sorry about
[40:41]
that how was it currently decided what
goes to the admin
[40:45]
committee I think it's largely in my
discretion I mean and that's based upon
[40:51]
I've just kind of gotten into um routine
as to what we route through based upon
[40:57]
my understanding of what had
historically been routed through the
[41:01]
administrative committee by prior
[41:06]
administrators
okay so that can be a topic yeah or we
[41:13]
could we could talk about it at a
different time if we want to have a full
[41:17]
Council for that discussion
too either way we could talk about it
[41:23]
that night and we could talk about it
another night we don't have to I mean
[41:26]
it's only going to be a work session
we're not going to have any motions or
[41:29]
any action taken at that meeting anyway
well I'm sure you guys will be fine
[41:33]
without
me so there's no worry there I have a
[41:37]
feeling you won't miss us
either I will if I'm losing too much
[41:41]
money in
Vegas let's go get them so we can make
[41:46]
it a topic starting point for it okay
discuss it there I'll keep that on the
[41:51]
list of talking point thank you
[41:58]
um t a purchase okay time um I sent uh
to the office I dropped up at the office
[42:06]
information you have in your package I
had uh
[42:10]
requested from
uh
[42:13]
uh the um vendor we've had for the last
I mean 10 or some odd years for English
[42:19]
CS a quote for 10 cases last year we had
11 I asked for a quote this year for 10
[42:25]
U we only had a little over one case
left last year and
[42:30]
um the way it had turned
out there weren't as many selling dates
[42:35]
either last year and I know the count
the village ran out of tiki kles early
[42:41]
on so anyway so I asked for 10 cases and
every year the amount per candle goes up
[42:48]
and it it went up quite a bit I think
this year you know the
[42:53]
$5.79 a candle or a torch he called it
course
[42:58]
so um last
year when we uh sold them for $5 we did
[43:05]
sell them at a loss
uh U because they were 529 so you know
[43:10]
they've gone up 50 cents just round it
up you know per candle for this year so
[43:19]
I still think that in my opinion the 10
cases is is a good number um it was the
[43:25]
lowest amount of candles the Torches we
had left over that we have in several
[43:29]
years but
now uh my biggest concern is or
[43:35]
Direction I Would I'd like some
direction from everybody else is what
[43:39]
should we sell them at it's I don't want
to get down to Nicholson pennies in fact
[43:45]
we're not going to have pennies anymore
as I heard last night on TV so um and
[43:50]
make it easy from a seller standpoint of
view uh rounding enough and at least
[43:55]
into a quarter you know so if uh we
purchase them for
[44:01]
$579 uh we can sell them for 5 and A4
550 or 575 and even at that you know
[44:07]
every Everything is a
loss um but at 575 it's only 4 Cent loss
[44:12]
so I don't I'm open for discussion
Direction thoughts I we have I have
[44:19]
looked at other candles in fact we did
look at Menards last year I almost went
[44:23]
there but those candles were thinner
they weren't as as heavy uh and there
[44:29]
wasn't as much wax there so they would
have burned out even a lot
[44:33]
sooner and then we had to get them
individually from different um locations
[44:39]
I I couldn't just buy them from one
location like I came from English
[44:43]
Gardens and then you know had to be
delivered here so you one delivery here
[44:50]
um so yep I think it comes down to the
quantities that people are going to buy
[44:56]
so that you're not dealing with change
you know if it's going to be you know in
[45:00]
groups of two then 550 if it's in groups
of four like if everybody buys four
[45:05]
eight or 12 you can do the 575 because
it'll come out to even dollars you know
[45:11]
and if you do 550 you're on 240 you're
only going to lose 60 bucks it's not
[45:18]
really a material amount so I it's kind
of a question if you can if you think
[45:24]
people will buy in groups of four 4812
without people doing six and 10 so you
[45:29]
got to make change otherwise i' just go
the 550 route and be good let see most
[45:35]
of them
[45:39]
are four five yeah I just I do the 550
so that way people it'll encourage
[45:46]
people to buy two so they don't have to
dig in their pocket for quarters
[45:51]
yeah my thought would be I don't know
why I guess I don't understand why we we
[45:55]
would sell it at a loss if we sell it
for $6 in this case we'd put any
[46:01]
additional money we would have towards
purchasing candles next year and look at
[46:05]
the cost next year but I don't know why
we'd be subsidizing Lake for homeowners
[46:08]
to buy candles well it's it's never been
u a money-making thing for one it's
[46:13]
always it's been a Pur a convenience for
those you know um which we wouldn't if
[46:19]
we put it towards the purchase of next
year I'm just thinking that would take
[46:22]
out any any change just a nice flat
number I I did I'm that's true too I was
[46:29]
just consuming from five U $5 a whole
dollar per candle additional for next
[46:36]
year that's a big jump just
kidding I don't
[46:40]
know I'm good either way are there any
other options like solar battery cuz I
[46:45]
you see landscape lights that but people
can go out and buy those you know I mean
[46:53]
I have looked at them I even looked at
the citran you know by the oil ones but
[46:57]
my husband doesn't want to store in the
garage he doesn't want to have the oil
[47:01]
on the garage he just wants to buy them
and toss them out on the fifth or the
[47:07]
fourth and the garbage the next day but
I don't know where everybody else feels
[47:11]
about it so yeah that's def I mean I
could do some research I don't know but
[47:16]
I don't want to be
selling a whole bunch of different
[47:20]
options you know but that is a that is
an option I know Dave you mentioned you
[47:25]
had some kind of a solar thing that you
guys were thing yeah our next door
[47:29]
neighbors got some and uh they have them
out all year round in fact and my wife
[47:34]
liked them so much that she found some
online and that's what we have now too
[47:38]
so we put ours away in the
winter but those were considerably more
[47:44]
than what we're talking about here in
terms of purchase price too but it last
[47:50]
longer
hopefully yeah yeah we've had him for a
[47:54]
couple years that's true
so I think that's where the Dilemma
[47:58]
comes because it's price goes up people
can buy less anyway and go out and look
[48:01]
for alternatives on their own I mean I
did be just as happy not to sell them
[48:07]
anymore but it's um the whole idea is
just to light up the lake and it looks
[48:12]
so beautiful on the third and it's
interesting you see pockets of where
[48:17]
nobody is doing it and you see a whole
whole stretch or came can came all kinds
[48:22]
of
can so
[48:28]
I guess I it's not a
moneymaking or thing to do it's just a
[48:34]
for Aesthetics make it easy so whatever
anybody wants to do is fine with me what
[48:41]
would you like to do could buy someone I
mean 550 or six works I mean I'm sure
[48:47]
we're all good with either one so do you
have a preference no I don't no I guess
[48:53]
I don't I was looking for you guys
sometimes you you just can't see the
[48:57]
force for the trees and I tried to be
objective um in the numbers and I know
[49:03]
you every year when we ow less that's
another reason that's one of the reasons
[49:07]
that I think it keeps going up but also
everything is just going up you know so
[49:12]
but
um
[49:15]
I all right well I I'll make a motion
for uh that we sell the candles at 550
[49:19]
PS second 550
okay Mo Brian a second
[49:27]
seller T candles at U 550
PS is that
[49:34]
uh have a motion for the
[49:40]
purchas make well I guess we do do need
a motion to purchas for
[49:45]
$13
8960 I'll change my motion to uh uh make
[49:52]
motion to purchase 10 cases of tiki
candles at cost not to exceed
[49:58]
$1,389 60 from English Gardens and that
we have a sell price on the candles of
[50:05]
$550
[50:09]
each
second
[50:12]
Baran my do to First pels roll call your
meeting yes Ki yes lebor
[50:21]
no mcnut yes Newman yes O'Brien yes yeah
[50:30]
yes you know I think what I will do
though is I think I will talk to um Bob
[50:36]
about the possibility of is he has solar
candles you know for next year you know
[50:44]
see what other options he may have you
know so that's a good thought I think
[50:49]
it's getting to that point it's getting
to that point it's getting to that point
[50:53]
yeah I mean when I first started doing
this from Joan I mean
[50:58]
I we probably had I
don't 25 cases I don't remember the top
[51:04]
of my head I had that information at
home but I mean it's drastically reduced
[51:08]
yeah I remember my father-in-law's
garage is full of PES in oh yeah your
[51:12]
son was selling him out on the boat it
was yeah we run up and down in that
[51:17]
garage pulling cases out of it all the
time sold a lot so they were only a buck
[51:21]
buck 50 a piece yeah yeah so
thank you so Pam you'll follow up with
[51:29]
Mr Walker I will follow up with Mr
Walker I'll copy you and Jennifer on my
[51:32]
email and um I I'll follow up later with
other thoughts I don't want to confuse
[51:39]
the two right now sure okay thank you
thank
[51:45]
you Chief s okay got a pretty extensive
packet with information in front of you
[51:51]
some pictures um you know when I met
with these contractors I was just
[51:54]
looking for something like looking for
something basic something functional we
[51:59]
don't need High materials but we need
something that's fresh that's clean
[52:02]
that's new and more importantly it's the
separation of the two spaces you know I
[52:06]
that we were having issues before but
you know it's it's nice to have the male
[52:09]
and the female uh separation of spaces
so you know we're not walking in on each
[52:13]
other and it's never been a problem but
so um I think I think shpr really
[52:19]
understood what I was talking about you
know the other two contractors were like
[52:23]
they were trying to see what their
vision and show what their vision for
[52:26]
this place was for me and I'm like I
just needed someone to understand what I
[52:30]
was looking for and keep it very simple
and basic and so the money has been uh
[52:35]
budgeted for this been approved I just
recommend that we go with serve pro um
[52:40]
after we spend this money for the um the
locker room project we will still have
[52:45]
money left over in the budget barring
any major contingencies but I just think
[52:50]
it's important for us to just have this
uplift uh a facelift uh give them a
[52:54]
fresh start and I think that they
deserve this and something they and let
[52:56]
it you know take pride in cuz it if you
ever been in the locker room it's kind
[52:59]
of messy and kind of dirty and and so um
it's some things are outdated one of the
[53:05]
showers doesn't even work and there's
there's not even any fresh uh any fresh
[53:08]
ventilation in either one like in in
these both of these B these bathrooms
[53:12]
here the fans work but it just just goes
in above the space it doesn't actually
[53:16]
go outside anywhere so
um the the initial quote was a little
[53:21]
bit cheaper than we noticed that they
hadn't put in there for the ventilation
[53:24]
so we're going to have ventilations in
both of the shower
[53:27]
in the men's and the women's locker room
so I just recommend going with um with
[53:30]
Ser Pro because they really understood
uh what we were looking for make motion
[53:34]
we go with your recommendation of ser
Pro uh the amount of 24 or
[53:42]
[Music]
[53:47]
2,459 by
by roll call or discussion first
[53:52]
discussion here quick question they they
are going to run events
[53:56]
absolutely yes sir yes they just into
Dave Gill's
[54:02]
office keep them warm the winter got
steam s up there what's the plan for
[54:08]
when construction's going on in there
for the officers and where are they
[54:12]
going to we are going to be moving all
of our lockers into this area here okay
[54:15]
and this locker room is plenty big
enough until um it's going to take them
[54:18]
four to five weeks once they start
demolition but um they're they're ready
[54:22]
to get going on it whenever we're
right I like their quote I thought it
[54:27]
was nicely detailed and easy to
[54:33]
follow any other
discussion a motion second all right
[54:38]
roll call please
yes yes Nei yes labor yes MC yes yes o
[54:47]
yes thank
[54:51]
you de crossbow Shield
[54:56]
Council this is a formal acceptance of a
proposal that we received from Blue
[55:01]
Cross Blue Shield of Michigan for
renewal of The Village's healthc care
[55:06]
coverage for its
employees um for the upcoming fiscal
[55:10]
year actually starting as of February
1st of this month as indicated in my
[55:14]
memo the uh percentage increase over the
premium for our expiring coverage was
[55:21]
13.27% we had hoped it would be less um
but um it could be more than it is um as
[55:30]
I indicated in the memo um Herman kingle
offer our benefits rep explained to me
[55:35]
that essentially this increas negates
the savings that we realized when we
[55:41]
switched from the uh Blue Cross HMO the
bcn P last year so but keeping that in
[55:49]
mind though too if we had stayed with
the HMO last year then the increase this
[55:55]
year would be significantly more so um I
talked a little bit with Herman about
[56:00]
the idea
of possibly going out and getting other
[56:04]
quotes again you recall that we did that
last year and the change that we made to
[56:10]
uh the the bcn HMO was by far the best
proposal that we received and based upon
[56:17]
what he has seen from other clients and
in other markets he just didn't think it
[56:21]
would be worth it to go back out again
for quotes again this quickly are you
[56:25]
happy with they would you get what
you're getting from them quality of care
[56:31]
I mean we had some hiccups in terms of
the transition on originally but that's
[56:34]
always going to happen but um I mean I
think by and large um the employees seem
[56:40]
to be very happy I mean if you measure
um how happy people are based upon the
[56:47]
number of complaints we really don't get
many complaints so you I think this is
[56:53]
this is the best that we can do for our
employees at this point point in time
[56:57]
and as we go forward we'll continue to
look at other options when we think it's
[57:01]
appropriate I'll make a motion that we
accept the resolution as presented
[57:06]
second Mo M second by
jini let's have a roll call please Ki
[57:13]
yes lebor yes mcnut yes Newman yes
O'Brien yes du yes your meeting yes
[57:22]
okay 13.27% increase
all right second call the public um an
[57:29]
opportunity for citizens to address the
council regarding any Village
[57:34]
business have a motion to open we'll
make a motion to open with the caveat I
[57:38]
would like to know when the year in
which this
[57:45]
happened
second Mr just a second we haven't
[57:49]
opened up yet I'm sorry we haven't
opened up yet so just can you turn up
[57:54]
the volume on this thing I can't hear
you guys without hear okay I don't have
[58:00]
no idea how to do that I think our av
[58:07]
gu motion by du second Newman thank you
again with the caveat that we understand
[58:14]
what year this actually took
[58:24]
place all right we we have a motion by
Mr Duff and uh second by Mr Newman with
[58:30]
um the caveat was um when presentation
is done just what year it took place
[58:36]
that's what the request is uh the
request was to just let Council know
[58:41]
what year um this all took place for U
that you're presenting that's what
[58:48]
council would like all right all in
favor post thank you m okay when the
[58:57]
gentleman from um water manager board
came in here and gave you folks analysis
[59:03]
of the boat in the journey I was
surprised as to how many new boats we
[59:11]
got on the
lake and knowing what the capacity of
[59:16]
the lake is I did some
research
[59:21]
and does anybody know where we're
getting all these extra boats
[59:26]
that
L okay well let's go and check see where
[59:32]
they're coming
[59:39]
from hold
[59:49]
on this is the law the repairing law if
anybody wants to to read it I have a
[59:55]
back for all of you and basically it's
the right the reping holder that's the
[1:00:01]
water Frontage and exposed bottom okay
so in other words if somebody's going to
[1:00:05]
have a boat in this Lake they got to
have repairing rights now you can still
[1:00:11]
have Waterfront and not have repairing
right as I found out now so we got to
[1:00:17]
find out who's putting boats in that
don't have repairing rights okay so then
[1:00:24]
I started looking around
[1:00:28]
the
U
[1:00:33]
what here's the bar right
here these are all illegal
[1:00:40]
boats they got I noticed from beq there
was a violation to have those boats
[1:00:49]
there the park
orders also notified
[1:00:57]
the police chief and the administrator
and it didn't do anything about
[1:01:03]
it so they're coming from the
[1:01:08]
park here's another one here's a marina
they built does anybody recognize this
[1:01:15]
does anybody have a boat
there the reason being is they don't
[1:01:20]
have repairing
rights in order to have to put your boat
[1:01:26]
here there's about 40 some people or 30
or something like that that they have to
[1:01:31]
give you 100% of their consent to put a
boat there if you can't get it 100% you
[1:01:38]
can't put a boat
there but we're popping little marinos
[1:01:44]
boats all over the place where they do
not
[1:01:48]
belong now the thing about it is
that does anybody know how many acres is
[1:01:56]
takes to have a safe
Lake per boat you want give me a
[1:02:02]
guess is it three is it 10 or
what okay I just ask three acres per
[1:02:08]
boat we're R three acres per boat a safe
lake is around 8
[1:02:15]
Acres part of our problem is we're are a
narrow
[1:02:19]
Lake okay for an example in front of my
house is
[1:02:24]
700 uh wide there you got to take a you
know 100 ft on each side so you're
[1:02:33]
down to uh
500 now you got if you put a dot or or a
[1:02:41]
DOT on another top of that then you're
going to lower them so in other words
[1:02:47]
you only have about 350 ft of the lake
on one side should go down and 350 ft on
[1:02:54]
the other side
we're going to have a very big accident
[1:02:59]
coming I've had taken photos not photos
but videos of what's going on out there
[1:03:05]
and I invite any one of you folks to
come on Saturday and Sunday and set them
[1:03:08]
on patio and see what's going on the
council the police department has an
[1:03:15]
obligation to make
this um Lake
[1:03:19]
save you're right when you asked about
all those votes think there all they
[1:03:26]
have to do is contact the police they'll
find out who owns the land underneath
[1:03:31]
and it can make those people take that
anchor
[1:03:33]
up but a lot of people don't know that
or they're they're
[1:03:38]
lost so let me show you what I did and
you can do it take it read it if you
[1:03:46]
folks are interested
in having
[1:03:59]
thank
[1:04:04]
you thank you these are the ref Maring
laws if you have any if you have any
[1:04:09]
questions I'd like to have a dating I
don't care I do it you get a hold of the
[1:04:15]
law
[Music]
[1:04:19]
or
educate the council the water
[1:04:25]
measurement board and your Police
Department I asked the police uh CH to
[1:04:30]
come over the house that he's in the
neighborhood he stopped we spent an hour
[1:04:34]
together and I appreciate that chief
that was helpful and then I thought when
[1:04:39]
I got this package
together um I would come over to the
[1:04:44]
office and I spent another hour with him
going through this whole package to show
[1:04:48]
them what the fact is all about point of
order Mr President time has expired
[1:04:57]
thank you Mr
[1:05:04]
leor one more
[1:05:10]
time
uh I'll start off with I was heartened
[1:05:17]
tonight by
uh your
[1:05:22]
uh standing up for the administrative
people that
[1:05:27]
was that was
beautiful um and everybody falling in
[1:05:33]
with it that that is what this council
is
[1:05:38]
about and that
that's what I wanted to say last month
[1:05:43]
when a new person came on and an almost
new person came back but but you guys
[1:05:51]
are charged
[1:05:59]
you
[1:06:02]
can't your opinion
[1:06:06]
matters but you've got to think of the
greater good and
[1:06:11]
that's that's what this Council should
be all about should have been all about
[1:06:16]
for years and years and
years uh my my father bless his heart he
[1:06:24]
used to say why do you do the right
thing and he if he got no answer he'd
[1:06:31]
say because it's the right thing to
do he said it might not be the easy
[1:06:38]
thing but it's the right thing to do and
that's what you guys did tonight that
[1:06:43]
was I I enjoyed sitting there watching
that that's that's what you did a few
[1:06:49]
months ago when I brought up the uh
vulgarity that came from the council
[1:06:54]
table and
you actually recognized it moted to
[1:07:00]
change it that's but that's that's what
you guys need to do is don't do the easy
[1:07:09]
thing I I know I keep harping on the the
garbage
[1:07:14]
tax that was the easy thing to do it
wasn't put to the people it was just
[1:07:23]
done and that's not what you're he here
to do you're here to represent the
[1:07:29]
people not
yourselves and and it that is a I I know
[1:07:37]
it's a hard line to
walk uh I I am not I am not a big
[1:07:43]
believer in
sewers but when I was on
[1:07:47]
Council I was actually the one that put
forth the idea
[1:07:53]
of the Lakeside people doing a petition
the people that needed
[1:07:59]
sewers doing a
petition I didn't want them
[1:08:08]
but that's what you do you got to do
what's right there there's we we've got
[1:08:15]
we've got one bedroom houses in this
Village we've got six bedroom houses in
[1:08:21]
this Village there there is there is no
cookie cutter that Works in every
[1:08:28]
situation throughout this Village there
just
[1:08:32]
isn't we've got people that work at
flipping burgers as you put it earlier
[1:08:38]
and we've got people who are
[1:08:42]
Executives this is an Eclectic
Village and you guys need to sometimes
[1:08:50]
dig in and
represent everybody not just just small
[1:08:56]
groups not just what you think but
everybody and uh
[1:09:04]
I I
appreciate I I've been away from Council
[1:09:09]
for a while on doctor's
orders and uh since I've come back I
[1:09:17]
have actually
appreciated what you folks have
[1:09:22]
done uh not everything but uh I would
say by and
[1:09:28]
large you you guys are definitely on the
right track so thank you and
[1:09:36]
uh have a good
night than
[1:09:48]
than doesn't look like we have any
other
[1:09:54]
second all in favor I
oppos motion
[1:10:00]
passes on to have close session motion
to move into close session immediately
[1:10:06]
after agenda item 17 second motion by D
second by Brian to move in close session
[1:10:13]
after agenda item
17 we don't need roll call that yes we
[1:10:17]
do we do roll
[1:10:22]
call yes your meing yes has
[1:10:28]
yesi I'm sorry yes yes leor yes MCN yes
human yes O'Brien
[1:10:40]
yes okay the topics for our February 26
2025 work session Village
[1:10:51]
goals Council I guess the action that
we're asking is to actually go ahead and
[1:10:55]
normally set the work session we
normally forego but I would ask that we
[1:10:59]
have the work session um again as in
Prior years we' use the meeting to talk
[1:11:04]
about goals and objectives um the format
that I would atttend to follow is the
[1:11:09]
one we've used the last couple years
where I put together a list of talking
[1:11:12]
points based upon the points that we had
discussed the year before showing
[1:11:17]
whether or not we've made progress on
those and if we've made progress on
[1:11:22]
those and then in addition any other
points of discussion that I think are
[1:11:26]
appropriate or I would would um would
ask that uh if there are other points of
[1:11:32]
discussion that you think should be
added as member of council things that
[1:11:36]
you think that we need to be talking
about to let me know um my intention
[1:11:39]
would be to have a list of talking
points that I would send out to
[1:11:44]
everybody in final form a week from
Friday so between now and then if there
[1:11:51]
are things that you think we should be
discussing um that like me know and
[1:11:55]
we'll add those to the list I shared a
draft of the list with Mr mcnut on
[1:12:01]
Friday afternoon um and uh we're already
about a page and a half two pages long I
[1:12:07]
think all together
so motion to set February 26 work
[1:12:14]
session
second motion by second by
[1:12:18]
Newman our work session for the
26th in favor
[1:12:26]
all
right1 and and the thinking being too
[1:12:29]
that the things we talk about the things
that there appears to be consensus on as
[1:12:34]
to what council thinks are important or
priorities going forward those are the
[1:12:38]
things that Miss Hansen and I will work
with in terms of putting the budget
[1:12:42]
together for the upcoming fiscal year
and again at the risk of of sound like a
[1:12:48]
broken record but the time frame is with
the budget then we'll we'll get to work
[1:12:52]
on there right away I know Jennifer's
already started working on it but after
[1:12:56]
the work session we'll roll up our
sleeves and start to work a little bit
[1:12:59]
harder we'll get the department heads
involved in the process um and then the
[1:13:04]
goal would be for us to have a draft of
an agenda that we can share with you in
[1:13:09]
May uh with with the ultimate goal of
having the budget in final form that you
[1:13:16]
can approve at your regular meeting in
[1:13:20]
June but again anything you want to talk
about on the 26th uh let me know within
[1:13:25]
in the next week or so and we'll make it
[1:13:33]
so no other pending business no other
pending
[1:13:36]
business
Chief okay well I can personally attest
[1:13:41]
to the fact still being identifying
myself as the new guy the importance of
[1:13:46]
of Tabitha and Paige and and Jen knows
and D or I I'm in there almost every day
[1:13:51]
tab where where do I find this where do
I get this from and it's I never heard I
[1:13:56]
don't know it's either always right here
or she gets up and she pulls some binder
[1:14:00]
out there that looks like I got her in
her by a truck and she's look producing
[1:14:04]
she knows they know exactly where
everything's at in the thing is so
[1:14:07]
important and like like Dave said it
just makes my life so much easier so I
[1:14:11]
appreciate them they are worth their
weight and gold and so I was happy to
[1:14:14]
see that didn't know that was going to
be on the the agenda tonight but super
[1:14:17]
pleased I love working with those two
ladies up front so very good oh you guys
[1:14:21]
saw the letter um for officer Keller in
the packet there just another example of
[1:14:26]
uh just an outstanding um contact that
we have with our citizens and how
[1:14:30]
important it is and I love hearing that
feedback uh right now we're just kind of
[1:14:33]
in the thick of doing these uh these
yearly these qualified trainings that we
[1:14:36]
need in order to receive funds um from
the state we have to have certain types
[1:14:41]
of training and we're we're just so
thick in it right now so we're sending a
[1:14:44]
lot of people to training different
things getting those requirements so in
[1:14:47]
order to get receive certain funding
from the state we have to attend certain
[1:14:52]
requirements certain types of training
and we are doing that right now so uh
[1:14:56]
we're just about ready for our lean on
it Sergeant morasco there he's kind of
[1:14:59]
heading that up and uh it seems like the
last we're just talking about this today
[1:15:03]
the last month it's like it's been
nonstop like work there's so much more
[1:15:06]
requirements uh more security measures
more people to track down more forms to
[1:15:11]
track down and bringing On Our IT
company and so that has been a heck of a
[1:15:15]
project and we're looking forward to
getting that over with on February 26th
[1:15:18]
so uh and my final thing is snow uh stay
off the streets please don't park on
[1:15:23]
there we uh help our DPW clear that out
as quickly as possible and that's all I
[1:15:29]
have for you Mr President thank you
good thank you um uh the 14th is our
[1:15:37]
last day for paying
taxes and um um the 28th of this month
[1:15:44]
is the the DRFT that last day the day
after March 1st is when they're turned
[1:15:49]
over to the county so um we have sent
letters to anyone that hasn't their
[1:15:55]
taxes may have forgotten or or whatever
and then um we're calling we're actually
[1:16:01]
making phone calls now this week and
next week um calling people saying were
[1:16:07]
you aware of this and you know cuz you
know we do have some we have some
[1:16:12]
seniors in the uh Village that um some
of them are getting you know have
[1:16:17]
different issues they actually need a
child to do stuff for them so we're
[1:16:20]
doing our us to get to the bottom of it
for all these people so that their taxes
[1:16:24]
don't get turned over to the county so
um and then we're gearing up for um the
[1:16:30]
new budget and so we're starting all
that process and um we're looking in
[1:16:35]
good position for that and and I think
that's it um happy Valentine's
[1:16:43]
Day and um and um look forward to seeing
you guys next
[1:16:52]
well Mr
thank you Mr President uh first um all
[1:16:58]
of you observant people here up at the
council table will note that we have a
[1:17:01]
new face at the table over sitting with
uh Tabitha at the recording secretary's
[1:17:08]
table uh Vicky roie who is a village
resident longtime Village resident um
[1:17:13]
has graciously agreed to step up and
serve as our new recording secretary so
[1:17:19]
Vicki's going to be a familiar face
we're going to break her in by fire at
[1:17:23]
our work session in a couple weeks
she'll be flying on her own that
[1:17:26]
particular night she'll also be covering
the zoning board of appeals meetings too
[1:17:30]
so um again glad to have Vicki with us I
I'm confident that she's going to do a
[1:17:35]
good job for us thank you nice to meet
[1:17:40]
you um in going through the packet
tonight some of you may have noticed
[1:17:44]
there was no report from our code
enforcement officer this month he's been
[1:17:48]
out sick uh for a little over a week
right now so we didn't have a report but
[1:17:53]
we'll have um the the report for the
month of January and along with the
[1:17:57]
report for February in the packet in
March so
[1:18:03]
um just a reminder to everyone this
coming Monday is President's Day which
[1:18:08]
we do recognize as a holiday here in the
village The Village Hall will be closed
[1:18:13]
um so we will not be here Police
Department of course will be working um
[1:18:18]
but the rest of us will not um trash
pickup recycling pickup everything that
[1:18:23]
uh priority does that will not be
affected so we will have trash and
[1:18:28]
recycling pickup as normal on Monday
that will not be affected but the
[1:18:32]
Village Hall will be closed so the only
other comment I would make is uh to pick
[1:18:37]
up on the chief's comment um yeah please
keep your cars off the routes um in
[1:18:43]
terms of parking make it easier for the
DPW to do your jobs and everybody um
[1:18:48]
here in the the hill CH tonight be
careful going home tonight it's going to
[1:18:51]
be slippery so thank you there's an
ordinance for one months right that's
[1:18:56]
correct y if your car is parked on the
street overnight you will be ticketed or
[1:19:01]
in or tow as I understand correct we try
not to tow looking for compliance if we
[1:19:07]
have to wake you up it's if it's that
important then we will but we have
[1:19:10]
people like to write citations in like
[1:19:18]
so that's all I got all I got that's
all all right Council comments start
[1:19:25]
jimy uh welcome
Vicki to enjoy some very entertaining
[1:19:31]
and sometimes very boring conversations
so that interesting uh big
[1:19:35]
congratulations to Fred Meisner on
winning our citizen of the year I've
[1:19:39]
worked with Fred on a lot of different
things not just veterans committee and
[1:19:42]
I've talked to other people about him
and they all say the same things about
[1:19:45]
him and it's nothing negative ever it's
always just complimenting him and
[1:19:50]
grateful of his presence in their
community and all the things he's done
[1:19:53]
in his HOA and and for the village as a
whole so I'm really happy to see him get
[1:19:58]
this much deserved honor and also I'd
like to congratulate uh John Ellsworth
[1:20:02]
who the Lakes Area Chamber of Commerce
2024 first responder of the year I had
[1:20:08]
the pleasure of attending the U their
annual black and white ball where John
[1:20:11]
was the winner of that and uh he even
wore a tux which is pretty neat to see
[1:20:16]
talk about change of uniform kind of
thing but uh it was a very well-deserved
[1:20:20]
honor for John and it was good to see
him he was definitely looking very
[1:20:23]
relaxed
and if anybody saw his photo on Facebook
[1:20:27]
he's in Florida he's definitely doing
well yes and yeah stay safe tonight
[1:20:31]
everybody thank you to our DPW is going
to be out there and our officers were
[1:20:34]
going to be out there despite the
weather and hopefully it'll be a quiet
[1:20:37]
night for
everybody better myself ditto yep uh
[1:20:43]
congratulations to Fred welcome Vicki
and I until uh our next meeting or until
[1:20:48]
I see you again I hope you all have a
wonderful uh month and uh stay blessed
[1:20:59]
welcome good to see you thanks for
stepping up and taking on the role
[1:21:02]
congratulations again Fred working this
is another year and uh did some good
[1:21:06]
work tonight so really happy about her
her outcome so thank
[1:21:11]
you um I attended the newly elected
officials training with the MML league
[1:21:17]
on January 23rd Mike was in attendance
as well um thought it was a really great
[1:21:20]
event appreciated the opportunity to be
there Pam and I uh joined the layup
[1:21:24]
board meeting today another great
meeting and um just in awe of all the
[1:21:28]
work that they do for our community so
it's definitely well worth our time
[1:21:31]
being there and being the ex to that
board and then finally um well welcome
[1:21:36]
to Vicki and then finally um Friday
February 14th one of our elementary
[1:21:41]
schools Mary Helen guest is collecting
returnable cans to support the
[1:21:45]
rebuilding of a little food pantry that
sits outside the school so anyone that
[1:21:48]
has any returnable cans maybe from the
Super Bowl laying around if you want to
[1:21:51]
drop it off out front Mary Helen guest
it would go to a great cost
[1:21:55]
thank
you returnable cans you're talking about
[1:21:59]
pop cans not glass or glass okay yeah
anything with that 10
[1:22:05]
cent
okay uh I was going to mention uh the
[1:22:11]
Leia also um
U mark your calendar so far this year
[1:22:18]
the date is October 7th for the taste of
the leg fundraiser Edward par Edward
[1:22:25]
October 7th um thank you all for the
direction on the tiki candles uh it was
[1:22:31]
good conversation I really appreciate
that welcome Vicki I hope you have a
[1:22:35]
good time with us um and um welcome back
from vacation thank you much and
[1:22:45]
uh I I am so excited about the woman's
locker room I had just she was here just
[1:22:51]
before the meeting and I knocked on the
door because she had walked in I said
[1:22:54]
can I see because the pictures are good
but it's different being in the physical
[1:23:00]
surroundings you know so man that's way
overdone and that shower she saids has
[1:23:06]
not worked in years that's pretty sad
that's pretty sad so I'm really really
[1:23:11]
happy that we're finally doing something
and bringing up to speed and that the
[1:23:14]
showers will work I asked her I said if
it would work would you use them she
[1:23:17]
says oh yeah yeah
so anyway so happy Valentine's Day
[1:23:23]
everybody and we'll see you in Che week
[1:23:27]
weeks um congratulations uh Fred C year
thank you're
[1:23:34]
welcome and uh Happy Valentine's Day but
everybody be safe with the ice um it's
[1:23:40]
been warm it's been cold
so um you know just be
[1:23:49]
cautious make
[1:23:52]
close move up close
[1:23:58]
we already
[1:24:01]
that to move
[1:24:20]
upstairs so
exciting it's a
[1:24:25]
they