Wyoming City Council On The Road September 21, 2026

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[0:02] s
[0:02] pretty funny how we as
[0:04] Michiganders like. Just a call
[0:08] to order for the Wyoming City
[0:09] Council meeting on Monday,
[0:13] September 21st, 2026. First
[0:15] item of business invocation by
[0:18] Rick Pulizzi from Grace
[0:19] Christian University. If you're
[0:21] wishing are able, please stand
[0:23] for the invocation. Pledge of
[0:25] allegiance will follow. Let us
[0:29] pray. Heavenly father, thank
[0:30] you on behalf of all who have
[0:32] gathered here tonight. We thank
[0:33] you for the gift of life and in
[0:35] our community, the opportunity
[0:37] to serve the people of our
[0:39] great city. Help us to act with
[0:41] character and conviction. Help
[0:42] us to listen with understanding
[0:44] and goodwill. Help us to speak
[0:46] with charity and restraint and
[0:49] to discern your will and work
[0:51] to create a strong and healthy
[0:53] community. Guide us to be the
[0:55] leaders your people need. I do
[0:57] pray for each person here, for
[0:59] personal peace in their lives
[1:00] and joy in their task. Give
[1:02] each person clarity of mind,
[1:05] creativity, compassion, due
[1:07] diligence, and integrity in
[1:09] what they are called to do. I
[1:11] pray for our chief. I pray for
[1:13] our mayor, for our city manager,
[1:16] and the various levels of city
[1:18] officials, and in particular
[1:19] for this assembled council
[1:21] tonight. I'm asking that you
[1:22] would graciously grant them
[1:24] wisdom to govern the
[1:26] conflicting interests and
[1:27] issues of our times. Give them
[1:29] a sense of true welfare and
[1:31] true needs of our people, and
[1:32] for the confidence in what is
[1:34] good and fitting a you pray for
[1:37] the agenda set before them
[1:38] tonight. Please give an
[1:40] assurance of what would please
[1:41] you and what would benefit
[1:42] those who live and work in or
[1:44] around and. Beloved city of
[1:46] Wyoming. We ask this in Jesus
[1:48] name. Amen. Amen. I pledge
[1:53] allegiance to the flag of the
[1:54] United States of America and to
[1:57] the Republic for which it
[1:59] stands. One nation under God,
[2:02] indivisible, with liberty and
[2:04] justice for all. All right,
[2:14] let's take the roll call.
[2:18] Council member. Arnold. Here.
[2:20] Brethauer here. DeKryge here.
[2:22] Hill here. Postema here.
[2:25] Postler here. Mayor. Here. Oh!
[2:32] All right. Okay. Approval of
[2:34] minutes. You were sent the
[2:37] September 8th, 2026 regular
[2:39] meeting minutes. And you are
[2:40] also given the closed session
[2:44] minutes tonight when you
[2:45] arrived. And also the minutes
[2:48] from the September 14th, 2026
[2:50] work session were mailed out to
[2:52] you, emailed out to you. So
[2:53] unless there's reason to change
[2:55] any of those, those will stand
[2:58] as written tonight. Is there
[2:59] any objection? Okay, those
[3:02] minutes are approved as written.
[3:04] Approval of agenda. Motion,
[3:06] please. Motion by Hill. Support
[3:09] by DeKryger. Anything to add,
[3:11] Mr. Shea? No. No additions.
[3:14] Let's call the roll. Council
[3:15] member. Hill. Yes. DeKryger.
[3:17] Yes or no? Yes. Brethauer. Yes.
[3:20] Postema. Yes. Postler. Yes.
[3:22] Mayor. Yes. We have no public
[3:26] hearings tonight, so we're
[3:27] going to move to public comment
[3:29] on agenda items. This public
[3:31] comment period is reserved for
[3:33] comment on agenda items only.
[3:35] If you wish to speak about an
[3:36] item that is not on the agenda,
[3:38] please wait until the end of
[3:40] the meeting for acknowledgment
[3:41] of visitors. It is important to
[3:43] note this is not an opportunity
[3:44] for dialog or debate. This is
[3:47] an opportunity to provide
[3:48] comment to the City Council
[3:50] upon approaching the podium.
[3:51] Please begin by providing your
[3:52] name and address. There's a
[3:54] three minute limit per person.
[3:56] Anyone tonight on the agenda?
[4:00] The agendas are on the back
[4:01] table if you need one. Oh, I
[4:04] thought, I thought Chief Snyder
[4:06] was going to get up and come up
[4:08] and make a comment. He he kind
[4:10] of stood up from his chair
[4:11] there. I thoht, you can come
[4:13] anytime you want. Get your time.
[4:14] You don't need a special time
[4:16] on the agenda. Okay. Seeing
[4:17] none, we're going to move on.
[4:19] We have no presentations or
[4:21] proclamations. We have no
[4:22] petitions or communications. We
[4:25] have no reports from city
[4:27] officers. And we're not going
[4:29] to spend any money tonight. We
[4:30] have no budget amendments. So
[4:31] we'll go to consent agenda. And
[4:33] I need a motion. Motion by
[4:35] Postema. Support by Postler.
[4:37] Call the roll. Council member.
[4:39] Postema. Yes. Postler. Yes. Yes.
[4:42] Brethauer. Yes. DeKryger. Yes.
[4:45] Hill. Yes. Mayor. Yes.
[4:48] Resolution 14 B please.
[4:50] Resolution B is to accept and
[4:51] distribute grant funding
[4:53] received from the Office of
[4:54] Highway Safety Planning and
[4:55] this resolution includes Budget
[4:57] amendment number eight. Okay.
[4:58] There's a budget amendment tied
[5:00] to that one. Motion, please.
[5:01] Motion by Bruckbauer. Support
[5:03] by Postema. Mr. Shay, could you
[5:05] read us a little bit of. Sure.
[5:08] For the last several years,
[5:10] we've received grant funding
[5:11] from the Office of Highway
[5:13] Safety Planning, and it pays
[5:16] for over time that we an other
[5:19] law enforcement agencies incur
[5:21] to do stepped up enforcement of
[5:23] distracted driving, speeding,
[5:25] seatbelt usage, that type of
[5:28] thing. The state sends all of
[5:30] the grant money to us, and we
[5:33] distribute some of that to
[5:34] Grand Rapids, the sheriff's
[5:35] office, Kentwood and Walker,
[5:38] our share of that $106,000
[5:40] grant is about $21,500, and
[5:44] that would pay about 270 hours
[5:50] of overtime for our officers to
[5:51] do that. Stepped up traffic
[5:53] enforcement that would begin
[5:54] this December. And then the
[5:56] remaining 80,000 or so would be
[6:00] distributed to those other law
[6:02] enforcement agencies. Great. So
[6:04] we we're going to use it for
[6:05] overtime hours. That's our
[6:07] portion. And the question I
[6:09] have I forgot to ask you the
[6:11] other day, how were we selected
[6:13] to be the receiver of those
[6:16] funds and the distributor? Why
[6:18] do we get it and distributed? I
[6:20] again, and to be honest with
[6:21] you, I don't know. I don't I
[6:23] know it's been this way for
[6:24] several years, and I don't know
[6:26] if there was just an agreement
[6:27] back then that it was easy for
[6:29] us to just collect the money on
[6:31] behalf of everyone and
[6:32] distribute it. But I don't know
[6:35] what was the original
[6:37] originator of that, to behonesto
[6:39] think it's cause the the
[6:41] powers that be at the state
[6:42] level know that we do such a
[6:45] great job and we have such high
[6:47] integrity here that we're going
[6:48] to make sure those funds get
[6:49] distributed appropriately and
[6:50] with no foul play. I'd like to
[6:52] believe that's the reason,
[6:53] because that's true. But let's
[6:57] call the roll on that Council
[6:58] member. Brethauer. Yes. Postema.
[7:00] Yes. Yes. DeKryger. Yes. Yes.
[7:04] Postler. Yes. Mayor. Yes. Let's
[7:06] go to 15 Award of Bids,
[7:09] contracts, purchases and
[7:10] renewal of bids and contracts.
[7:13] C resolution C is to accept a
[7:15] proposal for elevator
[7:16] preventative maintenance.
[7:18] Motion please. Motion by Hill,
[7:20] supported by noise. Anything we
[7:22] need to know? Is this a routine
[7:24] yearly thing or. Well, we're
[7:26] just finishing up actually a
[7:28] five year agreement with Kone
[7:30] Elevator. We haven't been
[7:31] exactly satisfied with their
[7:33] service in terms of maintaining
[7:34] our elevators. They've had slow
[7:37] response time. It's some
[7:40] billing issues. It's been
[7:42] actually a real struggle,
[7:43] frankly, with elevator
[7:45] maintenance. So were looking
[7:48] to enter into a. And there are
[7:49] only so many elevator companies
[7:52] in this world. And so we're
[7:54] looking to enter into a
[7:56] ntract with Schindler
[7:57] Elevator Company or corporation
[7:59] for a three year term. It's
[8:01] about 31,500 a year. And this
[8:05] is for routine maintenance of
[8:06] elevators throughout the city.
[8:09] So any of our buildings that
[8:10] have an elevator will come
[8:11] under this. And they would they
[8:14] have certain standards for
[8:16] response time and then certain
[8:19] repairs where the parts are
[8:20] under, I think it's $1,000 of
[8:22] parts is covered under the
[8:23] maintenance agreement. Great.
[8:25] And so we're hoping that we'll
[8:27] have a much more effective
[8:31] response and quicker response
[8:32] from this company than we have
[8:33] with our last company. Any
[8:36] comments? Questions? I forgot
[8:41] where are they located? Where's
[8:43] what located the new company.
[8:47] Are they here in Wyoming? I
[8:49] know they're in either Wyoming
[8:50] or Grand Rapids because I saw
[8:52] them. I think I saw it on the
[8:54] way to the airport. So I think
[8:56] it's Grand Rapids, actually.
[8:58] Okay. Grand Rapids, Grand
[8:59] Rapids. Okay. Thank you. I like
[9:02] the idea of switching when
[9:04] we're not happy. And I love the
[9:06] idea of a three year rather
[9:08] than another five year, because
[9:09] I thk the three year probably
[9:10] gave us a better price than
[9:12] just doing one year. But it
[9:13] also gives us chance to check
[9:15] this company out before we
[9:16] maybe lock in long term. Let's
[9:18] call the Roll Council member.
[9:19] Hill. Yes. Yes. Brethauer. Yes.
[9:23] DeKryger. Yes. Postema. Yes.
[9:25] Postler. Yes. Mayor. Yes. Let's
[9:29] do 15 d please. Resolution D is
[9:31] to adopt the Cy of Wyoming
[9:33] 2026 through 2028
[9:36] Transportation Asset Management
[9:37] Plan okay motion by DeKryger.
[9:41] Support by analyst. Thank you
[9:43] gentlemen. Council has seen
[9:46] this before. This is our three
[9:48] year transportation asset
[9:49] management plan. It contains a
[9:51] listing of all of our
[9:53] transportation related assets
[9:54] such as roads, bridges,
[9:57] culverts and traffic signals.
[9:59] So it has an inventory of those
[10:01] what condition they're in. And
[10:04] you know, our plan to maintain
[10:06] those. This is we we are
[10:09] required to renew this every
[10:10] three years to make sure that
[10:12] we're still eligible to receive
[10:14] state and federal grant funding
[10:16] for various road and bridge
[10:19] projects. Okay. Any questions
[10:21] for John or for Aaron? Are
[10:24] there any unusual or unforeseen
[10:28] findings as we went through
[10:29] this from prior years or any
[10:31] major changes from the prior
[10:32] plan? I know, I mean, we had a,
[10:35] you know, listing of all the
[10:37] roads and we kind of know the
[10:38] roads and they use a Paser
[10:40] rating to determine, you know,
[10:41] one through ten, ten being
[10:43] brand new, one being awful. We
[10:46] have our bridges inspected
[10:48] every two years. So we know
[10:50] what the conditions of those
[10:52] are. And Aaron can correct me
[10:56] if I'm wrong. I don't think our
[10:57] traffic signals need too much
[10:59] in terms of maintenance. So I
[11:01] don't believe there were really
[11:02] any surprises in there. But it
[11:04] does just list out, again our
[11:06] assets and our plan to fix them.
[11:09] And we use a variety of funds.
[11:12] Major street. Local street.
[11:18] Yeah, primarily major and local
[11:19] streets for street funding and
[11:21] bridge fundi. So thank you. I
[11:25] found the completeness of the
[11:28] explanations very interting.
[11:30] So and I learned some things.
[11:32] So if you want to dig in, it's
[11:37] big. Yeah. But it really helps.
[11:40] Took a lot of work to get that
[11:42] ready. Thank you for that.
[11:43] Let's call the Roll Council
[11:45] member. DeKryger. Yes. Yes. Yes.
[11:47] Hill. Yes. Postema. Yes.
[11:50] Postler. Yes. Mayor. Yes. Let's
[11:53] take 15, please. Resolution is
[11:56] to award a bid for cul de sac
[11:58] Snowplowing 2026 through 2029.
[12:02] Another multi year proposal or
[12:04] contract we're looking at here.
[12:05] Motion please. Motion by
[12:08] Postler. Support by Brethauer.
[12:13] 6786. So we we have almost 500
[12:16] cul de sacs. Some of the cul de
[12:18] sacs. The city does the snow
[12:21] removal and many of them. We
[12:22] ntract it out because there's
[12:25] just too many for us to do. And
[12:27] some of the cul de sacs are,
[12:29] are small enough that our big
[12:30] plows can't turn around in them.
[12:33] So we went out to bids, and
[12:35] we're looking to go with two
[12:36] different contractors,
[12:37] depending on which zone of the
[12:39] city, the cost for the upcoming
[12:43] winter would be about $137,000,
[12:47] and that covers nine plowing
[12:50] events. And then if we have a
[12:52] lot of snow where we have to
[12:53] plow the cul de sacs more than
[12:55] nine times, there's a per event
[12:57] or per plow cost for that. And
[12:59] this would be a three year
[13:01] contract. So given that it's a
[13:03] three year contract, we're only
[13:06] locked into the amount for the
[13:08] first year, the 137, it'll
[13:10] change. It goes up by. I
[13:15] thought it said three. Okay. It
[13:18] was Yeah. It's well it's a
[13:21] 3% increase from last year.
[13:22] Okay. Okay. Good. Any questions
[13:27] for Johnr Aaron? And this is
[13:30] this contract is for the next
[13:32] three years. So it's not going
[13:33] to go up in the next three
[13:36] winters. Is it going to go up
[13:38] 3% every winter? It was 3%
[13:40] increase from last year. Is it
[13:42] going up a little bit? But is.
[13:51] Yeah, you'll see like with
[13:53] Jack's lawn service for zone
[13:56] one, it's 34,500. And the next
[13:59] year it's 35,500. So it's going
[14:03] up $1,000 for that one zone. It
[14:04] will increase. That's 3%. Is
[14:08] there any loophole in there?
[14:11] Not a loophole, but that where
[14:13] they can tack on a fuel
[14:15] surcharge of things progressed
[14:17] like they happen? No there's
[14:19] nothing. So this is locked in
[14:21] no matter what the cost of fuel
[14:23] is. Okay. Yeah, you probably
[14:24] should come up there so the mic
[14:26] can pick you up for the TV. No,
[14:28] there's no no fuel loophole in
[14:29] this. It's structured with the
[14:31] nine called the nine push
[14:32] minimum. Because, you know,
[14:34] when we look at our winters, we
[14:35] plow cul de sacs. Whenever we
[14:37] plow our local streets and we
[14:38] average 7 or 8. So we add one
[14:40] in there per year. So there's
[14:41] enough of an incentive for a
[14:43] company to buy their equipme
[14:45] and have their staff all ready
[14:46] to go and allow them
[14:48] flexibility for fuel. All right.
[14:49] Thank you. Any other questions
[14:52] for Aaron while he's up there?
[14:56] You. February. You'll have to
[14:59] wait. Just I'm sorry. Just you
[15:02] can ask Aaron after the meeting
[15:04] or you can get up at public
[15:05] comment and ask that question
[15:06] and we'll answer it. Okay.
[15:08] Let's call the roll then.
[15:10] Council member Poser. Yes,
[15:12] brother. Yes. Yes. DeKryger.
[15:15] Yes. Yes. Postema. Yes. Mayor.
[15:18] Yes. F please. Resolution F is
[15:20] for award of bid of t
[15:22] rquette Park redevelopment.
[15:24] Okay. Motion, please. Motion by
[15:26] post or by DeKryger. What you
[15:32] got for us, Mark? Yeah. So this
[15:34] has been a project long time in
[15:36] coming. I was in our parks
[15:38] master plan and we went out for
[15:43] bids, received four complete
[15:45] bids, and we're recommending
[15:47] the low bid from Mraw
[15:49] construction. So with the
[15:51] contingencies, we're looking at
[15:52] about a $2.2 million project at
[15:55] Marquette Park. And they're
[15:57] going to remove the existing
[15:59] ball field They'll expand the
[16:01] dog park. They'll put in new
[16:03] shade shelters, a new restroom
[16:05] building, additional parking
[16:07] and lighting. They're also
[16:10] going to put in some
[16:13] non-motorized crushed stone
[16:15] pathways and then do some
[16:19] shoreline cleanup along Plaster
[16:21] Creek as well. So this project
[16:25] is within what we budgeted for
[16:26] this project. This is phase one.
[16:28] We're looking at future phases
[16:30] in future years. And there is a
[16:33] conceptual plan that's in the
[16:35] agenda packet. So phase one
[16:37] ere is on the east side of
[16:39] that plan. Again when they're
[16:42] talking about the sled hill,
[16:44] the dog park, the nature trail,
[16:45] the restroom buildings and the
[16:47] and the parking. Any questions
[16:51] for John or Aaron or Lens here
[16:54] tonight to she can answer. I'll
[16:57] just say this park was special
[16:59] to me. My boys played soccer at
[17:02] Marquette Park and my oldest
[17:04] son, Matt, played baseball on
[17:05] that baseball field there at
[17:08] Marquette Park. So I know it
[17:09] got a lot of use in the past
[17:11] from local schools, both public
[17:12] and private. Sorry to hear the
[17:16] baseball fields being shut down,
[17:19] but it was a beautiful map of
[17:20] this in theacket. You should
[17:22] have been able to review that
[17:23] and see that. So unless there's
[17:25] further questions, we'll call
[17:26] the roll. Now we used we rented
[17:33] out the soccer field for
[17:36] Tri-unity. Are we going to
[17:37] still do that? Not anymore. I
[17:40] don't believe Glenn. Is anybody
[17:41] are there much come up? Are
[17:43] there any local schools using
[17:45] the soccer field or thebaseballs
[17:48] current school year, baseball
[17:50] fields are out of commission
[17:52] for that. I know of seven years.
[17:53] Yes. It's not been used for at
[17:55] least that long. The soccer
[17:56] fields are used constantly by a
[17:57] numb of organizations. We do
[18:01] Potter's House, Trinity
[18:02] Vanguard Charter, used by a lot
[18:05] of different organizations, all
[18:06] of our soccer fields, but also
[18:08] Marquette. Yeah. Awesome.
[18:11] Awesome. Great. That's awesome.
[18:13] Thank you. Yeah, that's a
[18:15] rental. It's a great deal for
[18:17] the schools that can't afford
[18:19] to build their own fields. We
[18:21] treat them very well on that
[18:23] and they treat us well. Returns.
[18:25] So let's call the Roll Council
[18:27] member. Postema. Yes. DeKryger.
[18:29] Yes. Yes. Brethauer. Yes. Hill.
[18:32] Yes. Postler. Yes. Mayor. Yes.
[18:35] We have no ordinances. Any
[18:37] informational material to
[18:38] distribute tonight? Okay.
[18:40] Acknowledgment of visitors. If
[18:42] you'd like to comment on
[18:43] anything that was not on the
[18:45] agenda tonight, please come
[18:46] forward. Give us your name and
[18:48] address. We're approaching the
[18:49] podium. There's three minutes.
[18:51] Come on up. Okay, okay. So I'm
[18:56] I'm. I live here in Wyoming,
[18:59] and my question was about the
[19:01] plowing, about the plowing. If
[19:04] you got the 1st of February,
[19:07] you used up all your plow trips.
[19:08] You said you could you could do
[19:10] them accordingly. Let's say you
[19:11] had to use it five more times.
[19:13] So I mean, that'd be a
[19:15] substantial that'd be a third
[19:16] more than what we're paying,
[19:17] right? Because you only you're
[19:18] only given how many how many
[19:20] trips. Nine. Nine. Five. Nine
[19:21] plows, nine events for the. I
[19:26] live on a dead end street. My
[19:28] my street doesn't get plowed
[19:29] very well, I tell you that.
[19:31] What street is it? What street?
[19:33] I live on, Goodman. Okay, well,
[19:36] we'll let you we'll let you. We
[19:39] can't answer that question from
[19:40] here, but that's fine. He's
[19:41] going to answer that question I
[19:42] just wanted good question. I
[19:44] just want to pick your brain on.
[19:46] Yeah. And I have one other
[19:47] question. And that is about
[19:50] hunting deer with a bow and
[19:51] arrow and Kaufman Park. That's
[19:54] that's my other question.
[19:55] That's what I really came for
[19:56] because there's a lot of deer
[19:58] in that market. And of course,
[20:00] all the way around, they're
[20:01] getting hit by cars just
[20:02] constantly the. So that'my
[20:04] other qution. Okay, an answer
[20:06] on it, but I, I want, I want a
[20:08] discussion. Well, we'll answer
[20:10] that question when we go around
[20:12] the council. Okay. Okay. Thanks,
[20:13] Ed. It might be good to. John.
[20:21] Why don't you just give an
[20:22] update for him and any others
[20:25] who have a question about what,
[20:26] like Metro six is doing and the
[20:29] discussions that are going on
[20:29] about the deer population thing.
[20:31] It might be a good time to
[20:32] update coming into fall. Well,
[20:34] yeah. I mean, we'll have a
[20:36] actually a nice update in two
[20:38] days on that at the Metro six.
[20:40] But having said that, there's a
[20:41] deer management coalition
[20:44] that's being organized by Kent
[20:46] County. And so they do have a
[20:48] website that contains a lot of
[20:50] informion on a regional
[20:53] effort within the county, not
[20:54] just Wyoming, to manage the
[20:57] deer population. And they're
[21:00] trying to they're putting a
[21:02] pilot program together to bring
[21:07] together private landowners and
[21:09] hunters that could hunt deer on
[21:11] private property. With respectte
[21:16] county, not the city. And if,
[21:19] if if we were to. Allow hunting
[21:24] in the city, we would have to
[21:26] amend our current ordinance to
[21:28] allow to allow that. So
[21:30] currently, the ordinance does
[21:32] not allow hunting within the
[21:33] city limits. And if we get to
[21:36] whether it's any of the
[21:38] individual communities, whether
[21:39] it's Wyoming or Grand Rapids or
[21:41] Sparta or Kentwood, would have
[21:44] to look at their individual
[21:46] ordinances as to whether they
[21:46] would want to amend those to
[21:48] allow hunting within the city
[21:51] and, and discuss the pros and
[21:53] cons of that. Granville Walker
[21:55] we've all been talking about it
[21:56] for two years. So it's it's
[21:59] being addressed. And I know
[22:00] progress seems a little slow to
[22:02] residents sometimes and think
[22:04] it'd be a quicker decision, but
[22:05] we're dealing with some pretty
[22:06] big issues there and things of
[22:09] that nature. So anybody else
[22:10] under announcement of visitors?
[22:12] Again, this is a public cment
[22:14] period if you'd like to address
[22:16] the council. Yeah. Right now at
[22:22] the end. Yeah that's that's why
[22:24] I repeated that. Yes. It's this
[22:26] is public knowledge and
[22:29] visitors public comment. I got
[22:33] the sun glaring in myyes
[22:35] right behind me. So I'm going
[22:36] to move this move ahead this
[22:38] way. So you block the sun for
[22:39] me. Hey guys. I apologize for
[22:41] my tardiness. I did not know
[22:42] that the location shifted
[22:44] around, so I should have
[22:46] checked the location there. But
[22:48] you guys know me. I'm Coco from
[22:50] here in Wyoming, third Ward,
[22:53] and I'm here to speak about the
[22:55] illegal citizen surveillance
[22:57] cameras. I did get my articles
[23:00] in a little bit too late, but I
[23:03] did send it to Miss Postler as
[23:05] well as the attorney here last
[23:08] night. Your portal doesn't
[23:10] allow for URLs to my archive,
[23:13] so I could not send them
[23:15] directly. I did try to send it
[23:18] directly, just finding it on
[23:19] Google to the city clerk. So
[23:22] hopefully he got at least the
[23:24] URL to my archive of. And
[23:27] there's a folder specifically
[23:29] dedicated to the police abuse
[23:31] of these illegal flock systems.
[23:34] So again, I'll go over, you
[23:35] know, how they are legal under
[23:37] the Fourth Amendment, ratified
[23:39] in 1791. I don't believe I
[23:41] mentioned though about the
[23:44] Shaqiri versus US case from
[23:48] July 26th of 2026 that prevents
[23:51] geofencing. And these cameras
[23:54] around town do create a
[23:56] geofence. They watch where you
[23:58] go. They can tell where you've
[24:01] been on top of you know the
[24:03] other things. And I got the I
[24:07] got the flock contract, and
[24:08] I've shared it with a bunch of
[24:10] folks. And I only saw two kinds
[24:14] of flock cameras listed that
[24:15] had been ordered. The Falcon
[24:17] and the Falcon Flex. There was
[24:21] no mention of the mobile
[24:22] trailers in that contract.
[24:24] There was no mention of the
[24:26] cameras that were installed
[24:28] into the police squad car
[24:30] vehicles. So I don't know if I
[24:32] don't think those would be
[24:34] called Falcons. Even looking at
[24:35] flock site, it's hard to get a
[24:38] list of what's, you know,
[24:39] actually on there and what it's
[24:41] called. So I don't know if some
[24:43] information was omitted from my
[24:45] contract, the contracts I
[24:47] received, but that would be
[24:48] something of note. I would like
[24:50] to know, you know, what those
[24:51] models are called or iany
[24:53] information had been hidden
[24:54] there. So yeah, it's not a
[24:59] conspiracy theory, Mr. Mayor. I
[25:01] mean, we have the documentation
[25:03] and I will forward it when I
[25:05] get some responses back from
[25:06] Miss Postler and the attorney.
[25:08] And hopefully the city clerk
[25:10] already has that archive of
[25:12] information. I mean, it is
[25:15] creating a surveillance ste.
[25:17] It is illegal under the Fourth
[25:19] Amendment. And again, there's
[25:21] Supreme Supreme Court
[25:24] precedents from July 26th of
[25:26] this year. So, I mean, there's
[25:30] a lot there showing how illegal
[25:31] these are. Just because
[25:33] everyone else is doing it
[25:35] doesn't mean that we have to do
[25:36] it. Thank you. Thank you for
[25:37] your time. Yeah. I wonder where
[25:42] the. Anybody else tonight under
[25:48] acknowledgment of visitors
[25:50] public comment. Okay. Seeing
[25:56] none we're going to go around
[25:58] the council and then we'll
[25:59] adjourn if there's no other
[26:00] business. So let's start at
[26:02] this side with Mr. Postman.
[26:03] Yeah, I ironically, there's one
[26:05] less deer in Wyoming tonight.
[26:07] One got hit in front of my
[26:11] office today, so. Oh, well, it
[26:13] does continue to be a problem.
[26:15] I'll be interested to see what
[26:17] John comes next week, what the
[26:20] progress is there. I think all
[26:22] the squad car cameras are on
[26:26] not Fox. So that's all I. Okay,
[26:30] I was going to mention the
[26:31] Exxon. Also, I did speak with
[26:34] the city manager before the
[26:36] meeting tonight. I know there's
[26:38] a lotf people that have been
[26:39] asking about the AT&T boxes, so
[26:41] we should get some more
[26:42] information on that after the
[26:43] Metro six, and then we'll pass
[26:45] that along. Thank you for
[26:47] sending those links that I,
[26:49] like I said, did not get those
[26:51] until I guess I did not know
[26:53] that they were waiting for me
[26:54] from last night. Last time I
[26:56] checked my email I had not seen
[26:57] anything, so I was actually
[26:59] going to ask for aupdate if
[27:00] we had seen anything. So I will
[27:02] be excited to look at that. And
[27:04] things like that. But I can
[27:05] reply to your email and then
[27:07] you'll be able to send me
[27:08] whatever. Perfect. Thanks.
[27:10] We'll discuss it after. Mr. I
[27:14] just want to thank Wktv for
[27:17] doing another great job tonight.
[27:19] There's a lot of work. Connor,
[27:20] thank you for all of your
[27:21] effort. And also thank you to
[27:23] the Parks and Rec staff for
[27:26] hosting us today. Thank you
[27:28] very much. You just stole
[27:31] everything I was going to say.
[27:33] So yeah, thanks. But these do
[27:36] take a lot of work and it's,
[27:38] it's, it's great to be on the
[27:40] road. But we do understand that
[27:41] there's a lot of people that
[27:43] put a lot of effort into this.
[27:44] So thank you for that.
[27:46] Councilmember Hill. Yes, there
[27:47] was, as you all know, there was
[27:49] a shooting in the trailer park
[27:52] Park at 2 a.m. last week. And
[27:58] we can probably use the flock
[28:00] cameras to get that vehicle,
[28:05] which is very nice because
[28:08] there was a serious injury from
[28:11] that shooting. I went to a deer
[28:15] connection meeting last week
[28:17] with with the county. Very
[28:20] interesting. We have 2000
[28:25] hunters interested in hunting
[28:29] in Kent County. We're just
[28:31] having problems with the
[28:33] landowners accepting these
[28:35] nters. And it's a it's a
[28:36] great program. It's a
[28:38] collaborative between the
[28:40] landowners and the hunters. The
[28:42] landowners can kind of set the
[28:47] stipulations for the hunters,
[28:49] and it's going to be be very
[28:51] good. But landowners are just
[28:53] having a difficult time with.
[29:01] Cooperating with the hunters.
[29:02] We are no longer number one in
[29:05] Cartier accidents. We pawn that
[29:07] over to Oakland County. Last
[29:10] year. We as Kent County. Kent
[29:12] County, yes. So they get the
[29:14] number one trophy for that now.
[29:20] There has to be a minimum of
[29:22] five acres in order to hunt in
[29:24] Wyoming or in Kent County. So
[29:26] that's kind of interesting to
[29:28] know. They can donate the extra
[29:30] venison they get to local
[29:33] entities. Hunters in the land,
[29:37] owners signed an agreement
[29:39] between each other, which is
[29:42] super good. So they're working
[29:45] on they're working on, on these
[29:49] issues. Kent County is the only
[29:54] state in the onlyouy in the
[29:56] state involved with this. It's
[29:57] kind of a pilot program, and
[30:00] relationship is the key. Crop
[30:03] damage permits, of course,
[30:05] significant increase in this
[30:07] year. Meridian Township does an
[30:16] urban program, which I think we
[30:19] could learn a lot from what the
[30:21] Meridian is doing to make this
[30:23] a success. What was discussed
[30:28] to is if these deer really
[30:32] continue to be a problem,
[30:33] there's a lot of problems with.
[30:36] There was three deaths of
[30:38] people in the Kent County this
[30:39] past year. The disease of the
[30:41] of the deer. Lyme disease in a
[30:45] deer in East Lansing. It's
[30:48] management versus hunting. And
[30:50] we need to manage this now, or
[30:53] it can cost a quarter of $1
[30:57] million to every city to bring
[31:01] sharpshooters into the into the
[31:03] every city to manage these deer.
[31:09] There's not enough food in the
[31:12] county for all of these deers,
[31:15] for the deer. And I would like
[31:18] to ask Grand Valley for a
[31:21] browse survey from their
[31:23] biologists. I think they'd be
[31:24] super interesting. That's
[31:25] probably the reason why they
[31:27] are eating all of our gardens,
[31:29] because there's not enough.
[31:32] There's not enough food in the
[31:33] parks for them, and they want.
[31:36] The Grand Valley State
[31:38] biologists will provide these
[31:39] studies. Farm Bureau of Kent
[31:41] County is for this, and I have
[31:44] emailed the entitiest be. In
[31:47] order to have more of a
[31:49] discussion of what we actually
[31:51] have to do, there's a process
[31:54] to to get this done. Kent
[31:59] County picked up 4500 deer, but
[32:02] these were the only deer in the
[32:04] side of the road and in the
[32:06] ditches. Who knows how many
[32:08] more wer hit in and went off
[32:10] into the fields that Kent
[32:12] County will not get for those.
[32:16] So I thought it was a super
[32:18] interesting meeting, a lot of
[32:20] good information, and I've been
[32:22] a proponent of this for the
[32:24] last four years. I've been o
[32:27] the county or on the City
[32:30] commission and council member
[32:31] at large, and I would like to
[32:34] see this to continue. So thank
[32:38] you. Editor. I'm at editor at
[32:39] the meeting, and I'm so
[32:42] thankful he came to to help
[32:44] address this issue. So that's a
[32:46] lot. Who sponsored ts meeting?
[32:50] The Kent County Deer Management
[32:54] Coalition. So I thought, oh, I
[32:59] know, I toolots of notes. It
[33:00] was a great meeting and I've
[33:03] got the DNR. I've got folks
[33:07] resident deer expert. Right. I
[33:08] think so too, because I'm sick
[33:10] of it. All my plants, I walked
[33:12] in, I was in the park. It was
[33:14] funny. It was the morning after
[33:16] the shooting. I saw ten huge
[33:19] bucks in the park when I
[33:22] when I walk every morning, I'm
[33:24] like, I just kept seeing them
[33:26] one after another after another.
[33:28] Plus, there's triplets in
[33:30] Palmer Park, which is county
[33:31] owned. Yep. Which is county
[33:33] owned. So there's definitely a
[33:36] room for improvement. So yeah,
[33:39] well, this is our last couil
[33:40] meeting on the road for 2026.
[33:43] We have met in July, August and
[33:45] now September. So in October I
[33:48] think it's the fifth. We're
[33:49] back at City Hall and we'll
[33:51] look forward to seeing you
[33:53] there. I have two things
[33:54] tonight. Fire and Safety night
[33:56] is on October 6th from 5 to 730.
[34:00] And that is. When there's free
[34:04] giveaways, live demos from the
[34:06] Wyoming police and fire
[34:07] departments, visit with
[34:09] firefighters and officers, see
[34:10] equipment and more. And there's
[34:12] food trucks will be available
[34:14] that night as well. And then
[34:16] the drive u window
[34:17] construction at City Hall. Just
[34:19] a reminder that that is
[34:21] happening and the drive up will
[34:24] be closed through October.
[34:25] Until that's completed,
[34:26] payments can still be made to
[34:28] the Treasurer's office inside,
[34:31] placed in the drop box behindCid
[34:34] electronically online. So
[34:37] things are going to really
[34:37] start getting interesting here
[34:39] in the fall. We have a lot of
[34:40] stuff that's going to be
[34:42] happening in Oober, probably
[34:43] including some events right
[34:44] here that you'll be excited to
[34:46] hear about. I want to be
[34:47] partaking. So with that, ladies
[34:50] Adjournme. I forgot to