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[0:14] Like to welcome everybody to the Thursday, September 10th, 2026 meeting

[0:22] of the York City Historical Architectural Review Board. Call to

[0:26] order. Con here. Skiing >> here.

[0:32] » Zumbren >> here.

[0:34] » Shermire >> here.

[0:37] » Clay Gross. No. Gford, no. O'Brien. Oh, Santiago

[0:44] » here. >> Okay. O'Brien's not here. Uh

[0:49] for those of you who who have had time to review the minutes of the previous

[0:54] meeting are there any errors or omissions?

[1:04] None that I notice and I'll make a motion to approve.

[1:09] The minutes is submitted. >> I'll second. It's been moved and

[1:14] seconded. Is there any further discussion? If not, I call for a vote.

[1:17] All those in favor indicate by saying I. >> I.

[1:20] » I.

[1:23] We have no old business.

[1:30] » First case tonight is 232 North George Street.

[1:35] Replacement of five singlehung windows on the front of the building.

[1:49] Can you hear me? >> Mhm.

[1:53] » Yeah. Just just speak loudly. >> Yeah.

[1:56] » Okay. Um so we will be replacing five windows on the front of that unit uh

[2:02] with our fibrax material. It is a 60% 40% blend of wood and

[2:08] polymers which allows it to look more like wood on the exterior to give it

[2:13] that more historical look. Um we've also installed windows at 230 North George.

[2:20] If you look at the third floor there, um those are actually our composite fiber

[2:24] brush windows. Um, we have done the install relatively close to the end.

[2:33] » I remember the case for the windows at 230

[2:37] and those look almost identical to the originals and to the um original

[2:45] remaining windows on the second story below at 230.

[2:49] Um we did approve those because of their their close similarity and as I recall

[2:54] they were fixed windows um with a fixed simulated divided light

[3:02] m um meeting rail. There are no mullions there. So um

[3:10] that allowed them to to replicate that look.

[3:14] My concern on these windows is it's half of the units. There's five units

[3:20] and this is 2 and 1/2. So the other two and 1/2 are going to remain across the

[3:26] front of those arch windows. That's the first issue. And the second issue,

[3:29] you're proposing them to be operable with the fixed with the top being fixed.

[3:35] So it's going to be a sash over a sash. >> Yes. So uh we don't have we call those

[3:41] specialty windows. Yeah. So, kind of the spring line,

[3:44] » right? >> Have an operable spring line. So, for

[3:47] that customer in particular, they did want the bottom panels to open.

[3:51] » So, we're doing four different windows inside of each of those arch openings.

[3:56] » I think that one will open. >> I think before I would

[4:01] approve this, I would want to see a detail of how that looks because the

[4:07] real issue is it would be less of an issue if all five of them were being

[4:10] replaced. But I think all five all five units, but I think

[4:16] two and a half of the five units are being replaced. The other two and a half

[4:20] are going to be the same. And if they don't exactly match and that meeting

[4:24] rail doesn't exactly match, um, it's going to be a jarring difference. I

[4:30] mean, you're going to see and notice it's a replacement. And I think I'm I'm

[4:34] concerned about with a unit stacked over a unit, that

[4:39] rail where those two units join, that joint is not going to look like the

[4:44] typical 1 and a/4 in meeting rail that's there.

[4:50] Now, it's going to be more than that because you basically have a sash

[4:55] meeting rail and you know that dimension of that is about an inch and a quarter

[5:01] probably. and you're not going to have that anymore.

[5:06] In other words, it's going to be you're going to have an inch on an inch and

[5:09] it's and again, it's you're going to have half of them that looks one way and

[5:14] half of them that looks the other way. So, I think without some kind of other

[5:18] solution um either doing all five or um at least

[5:23] showing us a detail of what that looks like. Um, you know, I'm I'm not going to

[5:29] be able to vote for this. At least that's my opinion.

[5:38] If you got the neighbor to go along with it and he goes, I'm afraid it's going to

[5:42] look more it's going to be more like the windows on the second floor where you

[5:49] have a transom with a mullion separating the transom from the operable

[5:55] unit below. that that section is going to look more like that

[6:00] that meeting between the top and a bottom sash is going to look more like

[6:04] the transition between the transom and the the window sash on the second floor.

[6:08] It's going to be maybe not that thick, but it's going to be different.

[6:11] » Yeah, it'll it'll look slightly different obviously because the ones

[6:14] next to it are the originals. We would be

[6:16] » putting the new unit in there, right? >> Um but as you can tell from the other

[6:21] images, >> we do a very good job of matching what's

[6:24] there with minimal loss. Um, so that's always the goal, especially in the

[6:29] historical district, is to try to replicate what's there, right?

[6:32] » Um, but I mean, you're not wrong in stating that it will look a little

[6:36] different than the units right next to it,

[6:39] » right? >> Um, so I I can't deny that you'll have a

[6:42] little a slight difference in the program. Um, I would I would ask that

[6:47] you go back and look at that detail that you either provide us that detail

[6:52] or you see if the neighbor can also um change their windows or

[7:00] you provide some other solution. If they were if they were fixed like you did

[7:04] over a 230, you'd probably not really notice any

[7:09] difference. But um with an operable unit below and

[7:14] that operable unit's also going to have a it probably is going to have a sash.

[7:19] » No, >> it's not going to have a sash that's

[7:21] going to be thicker. >> Insert case.

[7:25] » Okay. But again, without seeing those details and seeing those details, if for

[7:28] example this was a tax credit project, we'd have to see you'd have to show the

[7:33] the details of that jam with the sash and that head where the two meet as a

[7:38] sash in both the existing condition and in the um

[7:44] the proposed condition. And that's I think what we need to see before we

[7:49] would vote on this. And if it is significantly different, then we're

[7:52] going to have an issue because only half of the

[7:57] five units are being done. And in the middle one, you're going to

[8:02] have half of that arched window, that's one thing, and half of the arched window

[8:06] that's the other thing. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah. And I think that's the

[8:10] issue. Otherwise, I don't have an issue with the product. Obviously, we've

[8:14] approved them and everything. This is just a very tricky

[8:18] situation. Yeah.

[8:20] » So, just just so we're clear so I can take it back to my my bosses, what what

[8:25] will we need moving forward so so that we can try to get this approved?

[8:30] » I would think we would need and it's again this is my opinion.

[8:35] Nobody else has talked other than the consultant. She's sitting there kind of

[8:38] nodding her head. But maybe you want to jump in.

[8:44] » I think you got to speak up. I can't I can barely hear you with this roaring

[8:47] behind me. Is that Am I on now? I'm on. >> That's better. Yeah.

[8:50] » Um, if you want to see what what we would typically show on a tax credit

[8:53] project, um, or at least see I don't know if we need to measure the existing

[8:58] windows because we can pretty we can sort of tell what it would be, but I do

[9:00] think it would be helpful. >> Nancy, can you pull up that detail again

[9:04] um, not just to see an elevation of the window, but see a section that shows

[9:10] » how that transom and how that casement is going to meet and what that's going

[9:13] to look like. and I can send you some drawings of what what we will be looking

[9:17] for >> um to see that.

[9:20] » Yeah. And I think that's what I'm thinking section, but thanks. You're

[9:24] explaining it in more layman's terms. But yeah,

[9:26] » I think I think what you're also saying is the other option is to repair what's

[9:31] there or >> repair what's there, right?

[9:35] » Or ask the neighbor to also replace >> or ask the neighbor to also replace. Now

[9:39] again, if it's significantly different, I'd still want to see this section

[9:43] because you have all the other windows around it that are 230 looks really

[9:47] good, but they were able to they were able to achieve that and and and nobody

[9:52] can tell. I mean, my glancing at it, I can't even tell that it's not original

[9:57] unless I go up and examine it. But this is going to be a different situation

[10:02] here with what they're asking to do. And I know the arched windows present a

[10:06] particular situation. I I know you know how they're

[10:10] even built. You know that it's really only the outer width that's arched. The

[10:15] inside is a squared window. >> Yeah. So squared opening. Yeah.

[10:21] » So, if we can show you how they would look mold together

[10:24] with the with the difference in >> the section this way and then especially

[10:30] the section this way between the top and the bottom

[10:35] » right in both in elevation and like to see it compared with the existing.

[10:40] » Okay. if they could sketch something with the existing

[10:44] how. And if that's different, then yeah, we're going to we're going to say you

[10:49] either got to come back with an alternative solution to repair what's

[10:52] there, put like an interior storm if they're they're losing their weather

[10:57] tightness, >> or

[11:00] possibly get the whole row replaced. And this the the facade of this building

[11:06] is very nicely restored and it's very intact.

[11:10] Um, so you know, we got to be really careful with it. I mean, there were

[11:14] buildings like this all up and down George Street, you know, many

[11:18] significant ones across the street that were demolished. And this is kind of

[11:22] just an intact grouping. So, it's very it's very important, I think, to the

[11:27] district. >> Yeah.

[11:29] » Yeah.

[11:33] » I don't know. Does anybody else have any I mean, I follow what you're saying.

[11:37] » Yeah.

[11:40] How about you, Craig? Do you have any anything?

[11:45] » Okay. All right. >> I agree completely. Great.

[11:49] » I will move that we table the application pending submission of

[11:53] further details and alternatives as discussed at the meeting.

[12:00] » Second. It's been moved and seconded. Is there

[12:03] any further discussion? If not, I call for a vote. All those in favor of

[12:07] tableabling indicate by saying I. >> I.

[12:11] » Who seconded that? >> Craig.

[12:14] » Craig.

[12:20] » If you need any example of the kinds of details they're looking for, I can send

[12:24] you like a an example. That would be help.

[12:27] » The next case tonight is 215 to 217 North George Street.

[12:36] I mean, yeah. Do you have a card or I can just

[12:39] » Yeah, that's okay.

[12:52] » Yeah, you can start.

[13:00] » Two new exterior doors on the ground floor of the building. The first one is

[13:06] along the south wall of the building of that small

[13:11] walkway barely visible.

[13:19] old wood floor.

[13:40] for the north wall of the building

[13:47] street.

[14:12] I'd like to make a motion to approve the application as presented. Um, primarily

[14:20] due to the fact that the doors are uh not going to be visible from a public

[14:26] right away. I will second that and that it can be

[14:33] noted there in basically service alleys.

[14:39] » All right, it's been moved and seconded. Is there any further discussion?

[14:42] » Yeah, I just have a question regarding this

[14:46] alley doorway. You going to rebuild the frame,

[14:51] replace the lint hole? >> Yeah,

[14:55] » so it's more than just the door. You can replace

[14:59] Rebuild the entire frame.

[15:09] » Okay. >> Okay.

[15:12] » And again, I don't if this was visible, it' be different, right?

[15:15] » But >> it it's really not.

[15:19] » Yep.

[15:22] » Okay. It's been moved and seconded. Uh, all those in favor indicate by

[15:28] saying I. I. >> I.

[15:31] » You have it.

[15:48] » Next case is 115 North Newberry.

[15:53] » I have 17 here. I have >> I have both.

[15:55] » I have 15. >> Yeah, I do. Yeah, there is both here.

[15:59] » There was confusion about the address about which it is. It is 17.

[16:02] » Okay. >> So, which address is it?

[16:04] » It is 17. >> 17.

[16:09] » I'd like to uh replace the front porch on 117 North Newberry Street. It was um

[16:16] an un unpainted um wood deck or wood porch. And I'd like

[16:23] to replace it with a uh porch of the similar dimensions except that on the

[16:29] front you can see the railing bends around. Uh but the homeowner wanted that

[16:35] to be cut off so that it would have a better place to sit. Um so that would be

[16:40] the difference. And then I would also paint it uh brown with black spindles

[16:48] which I see I saw on the email that I had

[16:52] They had they had it black with brown spindles. Um I think that was a mistake

[16:57] on their part. I had sent brown with black spindles and that's what I would

[17:01] like to do.

[17:04] So yeah, same dimensions. Uh the posts has that little top on it. That would be

[17:10] the same as well. Well, it would just be a tiny bit

[17:14] different, but very similar shape that you can get from those.

[17:20] I think that's all.

[17:28] » And the steps then of course would be coming down directly like the steps

[17:32] would go straight across the whole >> without that little

[17:38] » and would that have a handrail as well on the right side as the picture shows?

[17:43] » Yes, both both sides would have the handrails.

[17:53] I'll move we approve the application as submitted. Um the proposed porch is

[18:00] complimentary in scale and size and it's replacing a

[18:06] an existing non-historic porch. >> I'll second.

[18:11] » It's been moved and seconded. Is there any further discussion

[18:16] having none? Um I call for a vote. All those in favor

[18:22] indicate by saying I. >> I.

[18:26] » Eyes are unanimous. >> Thank you.

[18:39] » Next case tonight is 243 to 245 West Market Street.

[18:50] And you are >> Courtney with Deansless Realy.

[19:12] Uh, so we will the comments below will be forwarded to city council. There are

[19:16] meetings on Tuesday. They'll approve it and then you can come back for your

[19:19] permit. >> I think our comments here from the

[19:24] consultant council meeting >> basically justify

[19:30] » all of the materials except the window configurations

[19:34] of the addition. >> Okay.

[19:39] which >> so that rather than the addition the

[19:42] windows now look like the the proposed windows on the sides and rears first of

[19:46] all they're vinyl but we would prefer seeing a different material

[19:53] um even a composite secondly their configuration

[19:57] front of the building is all one over one windows and I don't know are you

[20:02] also replacing the windows in the front of the building or oh not touching the

[20:05] front okay Um,

[20:10] your sides and rear would be more appropriate if you did a one over one

[20:15] window or even a fixed operable casement with a

[20:20] simulated divided light across the center. So, it looked like a one over

[20:24] one window rather than right now they're they're casements that are split this

[20:29] way which basically is not compatible with the

[20:33] rest of the building or the historic district.

[20:35] » Makes sense. And I think we'd rather see a material

[20:40] um again such as we had no problem with material on the first case that was

[20:45] proposed which is the Anderson Fibrex or something similar rather than vinyl

[20:50] and that kind of >> I know that so my boss told me that

[20:54] they're not vinyl. I guess they're U >> they're Excuse me.

[20:58] » They're not vinyl. >> Oh, okay.

[20:59] » Yeah, they are UPVC. >> Okay. And then they're the Magnus

[21:06] windows through Crystal. >> Okay.

[21:09] » And I do have a bunch of like their work of how like the windows

[21:13] would look. But I do agree with what you're saying with the one over one to

[21:17] match. >> Yeah. I think

[21:18] » just look it >> it'll look better. It'll blend kind of

[21:22] seamlessly. >> Through the new materials, you'll be

[21:24] able to tell it's an addition and it's not historic, but the size and scale

[21:29] will complement the building. And then you'll have the windows which will look

[21:32] like Yeah. Okay. >> These are the windows going on to 20

[21:36] North Pen. >> UPVC is is a kind of vinyl. Also,

[21:42] » it is a kind of vinyl. Yeah, >> it is a type of vinyl.

[21:46] » They get very >> And they're still not installed.

[21:49] » They're Yeah, that that that's another >> Yeah, that's that was my question. It

[21:54] seems to me that's a vinyl product. Yeah, I think we have approved PVC

[21:59] already because it's kind of but yeah, it is a vinyl product.

[22:04] » Yeah, I'll just tell them. >> Yeah, tell tell them we would prefer a a

[22:09] composite. They they should price out a composite kind of material and then we

[22:13] could do an approval contingent upon your submitting the changes to the

[22:18] consultant for their review.

[22:23] So, is that the only issue that you see is the windows?

[22:27] » I believe so, based on the and based on the review.

[22:31] » Is there anything else in your review, Becky? I I think that was pretty much

[22:34] it. >> Yeah. I mean, you guys, I don't know how

[22:36] you guys feel about the the metal siding. We have that elsewhere in the

[22:40] historic district, but I think in terms of like the scale of the addition, it's

[22:43] on the rear. It's not taller than the existing building. I think all of that

[22:46] is fine. >> And the metal siding is there's a lot of

[22:48] contemporary additions in industrial buildings and buildings close

[22:55] to this and yeah that are using a vertical metal siding. So I don't see

[22:58] that's an issue. >> Can you um

[23:04] Is there an illustration that shows exactly where that metal starts and

[23:09] stops? >> Yeah, there are elevations in here,

[23:12] Craig. I think I

[23:25] Yeah, it's on it's on here, Craig. You can see the vertical stripe. Basically,

[23:30] the brick is existing, correct? And this is the addition with the metal siding.

[23:36] It kind of is above the brick and then it goes to the ground in the back of the

[23:41] building. anything that's basically being added.

[23:48] So, the brick kind of gives a base for the metal siding.

[23:53] » Some reason I was not finding that page. I went back and forth three times.

[23:57] » Oh, jeez. Here. Do you want to >> I've got it.

[24:00] » You got it. Okay, >> I got it. And that I'm not a fan of

[24:04] vertical meadow. >> Okay.

[24:07] However, in new construction, um,

[24:12] given what the Department of Interior standards say about not attempting to

[24:19] replicate or mimic the original facades. It makes sense and

[24:25] it works and it is on a rear alley facade and

[24:29] we've approved similar. >> Yeah. But we see it from market,

[24:34] » right? You will see it from market but there's other examples within even that

[24:39] block I believe.

[24:50] I mean if if it wasn't to be vertical metal

[24:54] would a Ephus product be the next similar price point alternative?

[25:03] I can't answer that without somebody doing a current estimate on it.

[25:09] Yeah,

[25:15] because prices are changing so much. I don't know.

[25:23] I'll move that we approve the application submitted with a

[25:29] change in the windows for the

[25:33] sides and rear of the existing building in the addition

[25:38] from casement windows with a vertical

[25:42] division to one over one windows either operable

[25:50] or with a simulated divided light for the horizontal

[25:57] to replicate the look of the horizontal meeting rail.

[26:01] And that the windows be a composite material or another acceptable

[26:08] acceptable material to vinyl and that the these approved changes be

[26:15] reviewed with the uh consultant.

[26:19] Right. So yeah, reviewed by the and approved by the consultant. Be

[26:24] resubmitted and approved by the consultant.

[26:28] » Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Is there

[26:32] any further discussion? Barring none, I call for a vote. All

[26:38] those in favor indicate by saying I. I.

[26:43] Okay. Thank you.

[26:59] Next case tonight, 823 South George Street.

[27:15] I'm Brad Edlesburgger. I'm with Maverick Moving.

[27:20] I own the company. I work job. >> Can you Can you speak?

[27:24] » We're proposing to uh tear the asbestous roof off of that house right there and

[27:30] sheet it in with plywood over top of the existing decking that's underneath

[27:35] because there's nothing wrong with it. You just want to put new plywood down.

[27:39] You know how old? and uh replace it with a GAFHDZ

[27:46] um textual shingle bark wood. Color here for you to see it.

[27:52] Uh but it's it's really the only option.

[28:02] » That's

[28:05] I have really get on it to repair it. So, I mean, I can't really, you know, I

[28:08] can only really get at a certain spot and look at certain things, but from the

[28:12] I mean, it's just it's it's at least probably 50 years or older

[28:17] since that maintenance. >> Yeah, I have no problem with this. Are

[28:22] you proposing to do open flashed valleys?

[28:26] » No. Uh, we were we usually close our valleys in.

[28:29] » Okay. >> Um, I mean, if we have to do it that

[28:32] way. I'm not familiar yet with historical stuff, but uh

[28:36] » yeah, usually the open flash is more historically appropriate and you're in

[28:40] » timber line will look more like an original product. Yeah, if you do that.

[28:45] » Yeah, metal open flash valleys. >> Yeah. Otherwise, you're you're wrapping

[28:50] the materials. >> Yeah, it it has them now.

[28:54] » Is it okay um if the metal is like black or

[29:00] » Yeah. And doesn't that be copper? Okay.

[29:05] » And then it's like it's missing like a face board there on the one side. I

[29:08] mean, I'd have to replace that obviously. Um,

[29:10] » and the faceboard are replicated with what? A composite material that matches

[29:14] existing. >> I could use composite or we could use uh

[29:18] just I think it's like a 2x6 is what it was. I mean a 1x six is what

[29:22] » Okay. Yeah. Either a painted 1x6 or as long as it's not a wrapped.

[29:26] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[29:27] » Okay. It' be painted white or whatever if it

[29:30] needed to be or we could get composite. Yeah.

[29:33] » Will you be able to reuse the uh down spouts and gutters?

[29:39] » Yes. >> Yes.

[29:41] » Yes. That's I mean we didn't talk about that. So, um there's nothing wrong with

[29:45] them. I think they're keeping them. So, yeah.

[29:56] I make a motion we accept it proposal

[30:04] except for with a with modifications as follows. Yeah.

[30:11] » With modif which modifications maybe I didn't hear.

[30:14] » Oh yeah. >> Yeah. Open gutters.

[30:16] » Open no open flash valleys. Yeah. It can be a dark And the gutters and down

[30:22] spouts will stay the same metal material.

[30:24] » We'll clean them out and everything. We'll clean all the debris out of them,

[30:27] but that they'll remain >> gutters and down spouts the same. And

[30:31] the face shield to be replaced in kind with either a wood or a metal material,

[30:39] a wood or a a wood or a composite material.

[30:46] » I'll second >> what he said.

[30:48] » I'll second the motion. Okay, it's been moved and seconded. Is there any further

[30:52] discussion? If not, I call for a vote. All those in

[30:57] favor indicate by saying I. >> I.

[31:00] » The eyes have it.

[31:10] » Thanks. Because he agreed with that. >> That's his next case is 121 West Spring

[31:17] Avenue. continue to hear it. >> Second visit.

[31:26] » Yeah. You were here the other week, weren't you?

[31:27] » Yeah.

[31:38] » Okay. I'll let you know.

[31:43] » It looks like in some of your review sheets, you got some of that other roof.

[31:46] » They need permit. Just uh ignore that. I put some of the old the previous roof

[31:52] into some of this. >> Okay.

[31:53] » It's not this roof. It's just another asbestous roof.

[31:58] » This is symbol. Oh. Oh, I see. Yeah. This is from

[32:01] » This is the asbestous shingle from the other one. Yeah. It's stapled in the

[32:06] back of it.

[32:11] » Did you say what you're going to do yet? >> I did not. I was just wait I was just

[32:14] waiting. >> He's

[32:18] I was waiting for >> with all this noise. We're It's like,

[32:21] did did we miss it? >> So, uh, at 121, uh, next door to the 105

[32:26] that we're working on, uh, there's a tree that had fallen, branch that fell

[32:30] into the garage roof out back, and for some insurance reasons, we kind of need

[32:34] to speed up the process. So, they were looking at trying to get the uh, trying

[32:38] to get the approval to get the roof replaced as kind of as soon as possible,

[32:44] satisfy the insurance.

[32:49] I I have no problem with the material or the

[32:52] what's proposed

[32:56] visible anyway. >> Yeah.

[32:58] » Could I ask one question? We we've been kind of back and forth between metal and

[33:05] shingles. Is we would we were thinking about doing

[33:09] a standing seam, but just to kind of speed the process up, you kind of want a

[33:12] shingle. Is is it possible to do metal? >> What's your feelings about uh metal on

[33:20] the garage? >> We talked about it. I was hesitant

[33:24] because it suggests a historic condition that might not be appropriate.

[33:29] » Okay. >> Um I said we could look at it. I would

[33:31] just want to, you know, look at the rest of the street. Is there any other metal

[33:34] roofs on garages? Was this What period was the garage built? Would a metal roof

[33:38] have been appropriate? If you go with asphalt shingle, like it's clearly not

[33:41] historic. It's clearly not replicating his door. Um, now that's my opinion. You

[33:46] guys, I mean, aesthetically, it would look quite appropriate. So, it's up to

[33:49] you guys. >> Aesthetically, it would look fine. I

[33:52] mean, typically in that period, it wouldn't have had a very high high seam.

[33:57] Would have been more like a flat seam or a very low standing seam if it would

[34:01] have been metal at all. I don't know. I don't know. What's your

[34:04] feelings about? >> My former house on East Bransberry

[34:12] had a porch roof that was original to the house 1907. It was a standing scene.

[34:20] Okay. >> Metal roof.

[34:21] » Okay. >> So, I know it was done during the time,

[34:26] » right? Period. >> Right.

[34:32] There are metal roofs that imitate shingles

[34:36] that their profile. Have you seen them? >> Yeah. I don't know if that's what he's

[34:40] talking about though. >> Are you talking about standing seam

[34:43] only? >> Um, we're just flat panel standing seam,

[34:46] you know. >> I think it's appropriate.

[34:49] » Okay. based on my experience.

[34:55] » I mean, aesthetically, in my opinion, I would much rather see the metal. I I

[35:00] just I don't really care for basketball shingles. I think it

[35:03] » Yeah. >> You know,

[35:07] » that's >> Yeah. So, we just with talking to Becky

[35:12] to get this in, we just went with the shingles. But I just figured while we're

[35:15] here, might as well ask questions. I mean, I'm fine probably with either

[35:21] or. It sounds like board's fine with that. I mean, we could give you an

[35:25] approval for either or. What's your thoughts, Dennis?

[35:28] » Either way. >> Okay.

[35:33] I'll rem I'll I'll move that we accept the application as submitted with either

[35:39] JF antique slate asphalt shingles or a standing seam metal roof

[35:49] in similar color. >> I would think maybe like a

[35:56] » like a gray dark.

[35:59] » Okay. Dark gray. Okay. Make sure you include the moss.

[36:04] » We will do our best. >> Yeah.

[36:09] » Not that long ago, you couldn't even see that garage. So,

[36:12] » I'm well a I'm well aware. >> And I would say also it's it's an out

[36:17] building. Um, and there are other examples of metal

[36:22] standing seam roofs and on auxiliary porches, etc. in the neighborhood.

[36:33] So, we have a motion. >> Yeah, that was the motion

[36:36] » and seconded. >> Second.

[36:44] » It's been moved and seconded. Is there any further discussion? If not, I call

[36:48] for a vote. All those in favor indicate by saying I. I.

[36:51] » I. Eyes have it. >> Thank you.

[36:54] » Good. Thank you.

[37:00] Yep. >> Thank you.

[37:01] » Yep. So, city council is Tuesday. So, after that, you'll be good to go.

[37:05] » Thank you.

[37:09] » Is there any other business or public comment?

[37:18] » Uh we are ajourned.

[37:22] » We have to do one administrative approval.

City of York Historical Architectural Review Board (HARB) 9/10/2026

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