Hudson Plan Commission January 5, 2020

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[0:00] i'll call me to order uh everybody have a chance take a look at the minutes
[0:06] second motion second to approve the minutes all those in favor
[0:11] opposed motions approved so just for the record we are going to
[0:18] postpone the public hearing on the conditional use permit for the
[0:23] garage hey excuse me there was only one uh
[0:27] couple that was on here that's not here uh if i
[0:30] mean i can run down to their house knock on their door and and have them log back
[0:34] on it seems kind of a shame to have to
[0:37] postpone it since everybody here they live you know on the block
[0:45] while you discuss something else do you need this done or do you need this
[0:49] resolved right away can you wait no wait can we get it clean
[0:53] 45 minutes i don't know why why not do it is what i'm saying since everybody's
[0:56] ready to go perhaps they won't be able to log back
[0:59] on next time um well they're they're coming on now
[1:02] actually there they are yeah it looks like it's coming back on now
[1:06] because but it was just uh the one couple that was here before that's not
[1:10] here now
[1:15] it just seems a shame to postpone i guess if you guys feel strongly about
[1:18] postponing we can but you know at the same time i mean
[1:22] we're way overdue on the beginning of the start of this meeting
[1:25] so and i don't know definitely
[1:29] pardon me definitely we are
[1:39] [Music]
[1:50] you guys can decide however you want to handle it but everybody's back now
[1:54] karen and david were you here for the public hearing or were were you
[1:57] here for the signage on the restaurant no
[2:00] the public hearing okay very good all right well in that case we'll go
[2:05] we'll move forward with the public hearing
[2:07] um public hearing on conditional use permit application for garage height to
[2:12] exceed 20 feet at 809 3rd street robert gwen hanson this is your
[2:17] opportunity to talk on on this issue please
[2:22] be advised that if you wanted to talk just hop right on in
[2:26] and please unmute is there anyone here that would like to talk on this issue
[2:35] i'd i'd like to say that i'm all for it i i live right behind bob and i think
[2:39] it'd be an improvement to the neighborhood so
[2:41] i'm a hundred percent for it i can't tell who's speaking could you
[2:45] please identify kendall mike jindal an address please 808 second
[2:51] street all right okay
[2:55] go ahead oh i was just saying i'm 100 for it it'd be a great improvement
[3:02] okay
[3:06] uh any other comments
[3:10] any other comments yeah uh this is karen nesset
[3:14] 727 third street i i just want to say i've had a conversation with bob and i'm
[3:21] i'm very pleased that he is sensitive to the architecture and the
[3:26] historical look of his house i i did notice that the recommended
[3:33] conditions include no accessory dwelling units so that would
[3:37] be my only concern that uh it never turned into a rental unit
[3:48] that is one of the conditions okay all right
[3:51] uh any other comments rich this is emily i did receive
[3:58] one phone call from jim euleberg before the neighborhood meeting
[4:02] he wanted me to note in the public hearing he lives at 819
[4:06] 3rd street that he has no problems or concerns about the proposed garage
[4:12] okay great and the other neighbors thank you the other neighbor is mystical bar
[4:17] check yeah if you know who that gentleman is
[4:20] that's the neighbor to the north and and what he's
[4:24] not dominating okay just okay all right any other comments
[4:32] any other comments any other comments
[4:37] all right motion second public hearing all those in favor
[4:43] approved public hearing is closed discussion and possible action on a
[4:47] conditional use permit application for garage height to exceed 20 feet at 809
[4:50] 3rd street robert wendy anderson urban hanson
[4:55] so the hansons have applied for a cup to construct a one and a half story
[4:59] detached garage at their residence um the proposed height would be 23 feet
[5:04] nine and a half inches thereby exceeding the codes 20 foot
[5:08] height limit i don't know if bob will if you care to
[5:12] speak on behalf of your narrative at all if you'd like me to summarize it for you
[5:20] i think the summary speaks very well i read through what you'd written and so
[5:23] yeah if you want to cover it that way i can i can jump in with any questions
[5:27] okay yeah so both homeowners uh they work out of their home
[5:30] and it's not currently well suited for two home office spaces
[5:35] so their existing garage which is functional isn't quite aging well and
[5:38] doesn't fit the character of the neighborhood and their english tutor
[5:41] house so with this redesign they're hoping to
[5:44] have the garage match all the historical aspects about their
[5:47] house and the neighborhood itself they have considered other options to
[5:51] reduce the height however the changes don't quite
[5:54] work well with the tudor style architecture
[5:57] so here we are with the proposed design
[6:03] okay any questions so in just looking at this graphic so i
[6:10] mean is the is the house changing at all or is it
[6:12] just strictly the tear down the old garage build the new
[6:16] one just the garage i'm sure no that's right take on the old
[6:21] house and build a new one and but there is a go ahead there's a small
[6:24] addition on the back of our home like a mud room so yes there is a small
[6:29] addition on the back of the house as well
[6:31] okay but i mean the structure of the house is all the same and
[6:35] and then add the mud room and then take down the garage build this other
[6:39] piece that will not be another residence for a rent or anything like that
[6:44] right yeah definitely we don't want it to be
[6:47] okay okay any other questions
[6:53] i will make a motion to approve the set of requests
[6:57] uh noting all the city conditions uh one through five be adhered to by the uh
[7:03] landowner and with that i propose for approval
[7:08] second you got a motion a second to approve
[7:11] discussion all those in favor all right opposed
[7:18] motions approved
[7:22] discussion possible action on a downtown design review certificate for 517
[7:26] seconds three sign art usa all right so 517 on main is the business
[7:32] that's looking to set up some signs mainly just a projecting sign along
[7:36] second street and then a vinyl door decal on the front door and
[7:41] a wall sign kind of on the back west of the building um the only sign in
[7:46] this group is really that required permit was
[7:49] the projecting sign which is expected to be
[7:51] 12.25 square feet in area it'll extend four feet out of the wall thereby
[7:57] meeting all of our code requirements um it will be internally lit and
[8:02] the rest of the signs like i said they're below six square feet so they
[8:05] don't require a signed permit uh with that being said staff is
[8:08] recommending approval of this downtown design review certificate
[8:13] i have a question could i just ask a question though
[8:17] so i noticed on the one drawing that it said existing bracket do not use
[8:22] yeah they're not going to use that one they're going to take that one out and
[8:25] move the projecting sign a little lower but
[8:27] there'll still be 10 feet of um height difference between the
[8:31] sidewalk take the old one out so it doesn't look
[8:34] like yeah right
[8:38] okay thank you all seconds for you google all right we got a motion a
[8:42] second to approve discussion
[8:47] all those in favor opposed emotions approved uh
[8:56] i guess i want to thank everybody for struggling through this with us tonight
[9:00] and uh i don't have anything for any communications or anything for future
[9:04] agendas anybody any updates on the comprehensive plan
[9:09] for the next meeting or um right now we're currently still
[9:13] working on setting up some lists of focus groups
[9:16] to meet with the business owners in downtown and up on the hill so we can
[9:20] get their perspective on things then we'll work on that from there
[9:24] develop some updated draft chapters that we can bring
[9:28] forward to you guys okay very good all right
[9:37] all right opposed motion is approved we stand adjourned
[9:41] thank you every