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[14:00] to order for monday april 18th

[14:03] and our first committee is claims

[14:06] yes i'd like thank you i'd like to open

[14:08] the claims on

[14:10] the claims meeting

[14:13] and i'd like to uh we have two claims on

[14:16] the on the docket and one of them is

[14:18] going to

[14:19] uh include our outside counsel so i'd

[14:21] like to uh call for a motion to go into

[14:23] executive session

[14:26] is there's

[14:27] a second you're thinking i'm

[14:32] okay so we're gonna go into executive

[14:34] session

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[41:43] true

[41:58] all right um next on the agenda we have

[42:00] a presentation by all of us it's going

[42:03] to be on the results of the black

[42:04] freedom project community safety survey

[42:07] so i'd like to invite to make miles and

[42:09] shawnee to come up

[42:11] and uh all council members should

[42:13] actually

[42:14] oops

[42:15] microphones fire microphones yes it

[42:18] should be rubbed right yep

[42:21] all council members should actually have

[42:22] a copy of the survey

[42:25] so

[42:26] yes um and actually we have two other

[42:28] documents to share with you all that

[42:30] we're gonna talk about going to just

[42:32] take the beach and then pass it around

[42:35] oh

[42:36] good evening

[42:38] and uh thank you for the opportunity to

[42:39] be able to share this information with

[42:41] you

[42:42] um

[42:43] it is their community safety survey that

[42:45] we conducted

[42:46] we appreciate the opportunity to share

[42:48] with all of you as we have shared with

[42:50] others

[42:51] um

[42:52] as i think most people in this room know

[42:57] young um were both born and raised here

[42:59] in the city of schenectady and we

[43:00] founded our organization all of us in

[43:03] the city of schenectady

[43:05] what you might not know is actually our

[43:07] organizational bishop which is to

[43:09] support and strengthen marginalized

[43:10] communities in the fight for black

[43:12] liberation

[43:13] and an end to all forms of racism

[43:16] oppression and exploitation and doing so

[43:18] through uniting people across socially

[43:20] created divisions

[43:22] we understand the importance of

[43:23] collective work therefore we have been

[43:26] intentional

[43:27] to develop relationships with other

[43:29] groups and organizations locally and

[43:30] across the state

[43:32] as such all of us as a member of the

[43:34] black freedom project the black media

[43:36] project is a coalition of black

[43:38] organizers and black focused

[43:40] organizations across new york state

[43:43] also known as bfp

[43:44] last native project together with the

[43:46] public science project research team

[43:48] developed this community survey to

[43:51] understand what we as black new yorkers

[43:53] believe keeps us safe and what

[43:54] investments institutions programs and

[43:56] policies would positively impact our

[43:59] communities

[44:00] all of us knows how important a survey

[44:03] dedicating to illuminating the

[44:04] perspectives of black and african

[44:06] american participants is

[44:08] black viewpoints have historically been

[44:10] excluded or underrepresented in most

[44:12] research studies

[44:14] research intentionally focused on the

[44:16] black community makes a unique and

[44:18] important contribution to discussions

[44:20] and planning regarding safety and

[44:22] allocation of resources in the city of

[44:23] schenectady

[44:25] this survey also is about community

[44:27] engagement next slide

[44:30] yeah so

[44:31] as you see on the screen we let people

[44:33] know where to serve will be on specific

[44:35] dates within the community as well as

[44:36] spend time walking in our community our

[44:38] ground game focused primarily on the

[44:40] hamilton hill and mount pleasant

[44:41] neighborhoods we met because we met

[44:43] people where they were at whether

[44:44] walking down the street at home or at

[44:47] local stores and shops throughout the

[44:48] community we share digital flyers on our

[44:50] social media platform and paper ones

[44:52] that community events and political

[44:53] organizations and institutions

[44:55] listed on this slide as you see up there

[44:57] are locations of partners we worked with

[45:00] to reach black people within our

[45:01] community our focus was places of known

[45:04] community gatherings barbershops

[45:06] libraries food pantries community

[45:08] centers etc meeting people where they

[45:10] were at was not just about physical

[45:12] location but also about giving the

[45:14] access and support needed for

[45:15] participating in the survey some folks

[45:17] were

[45:18] comfortable taking surveying on tablets

[45:20] or laptops other preferred hard copy the

[45:22] survey was administered by ourselves and

[45:24] some trained volunteers next slide

[45:26] please

[45:29] the survey results are based on 305

[45:32] black residents in the city of

[45:33] schenectady identified by zip code

[45:36] while there were many different

[45:37] demographics collected within the survey

[45:39] this is the breakdown by age the largest

[45:41] number of respondents as you can see on

[45:43] the screen were between the ages of 36

[45:45] and 45 but there was representation

[45:48] between ages of 16 and up

[45:51] the one other respondent

[45:54] is an individual that even though they

[45:55] originally identified as being at least

[45:57] 16 years old

[45:58] indicated a number that was it was

[46:00] outside the parameters

[46:03] one of the handouts you all received was

[46:05] the list of the other types of

[46:06] demographics that were collected in the

[46:08] survey

[46:09] and it shows not just the questions

[46:11] asked but the inclusiveness of the

[46:14] options for answers as well as the

[46:16] opportunity for individuals to choose

[46:18] not to answer next slide please

[46:22] the very first question which we see

[46:24] here was to confirm that the individual

[46:25] was at least 16 years old and that they

[46:27] identify with black

[46:30] being black does not mean that you do

[46:31] not identify with any other race or

[46:33] ethnicity and individuals included if

[46:36] they did indeed identify with other

[46:37] races or ethnicities

[46:39] we'll quickly go through the next four

[46:41] slides that are the questions the

[46:42] participants were asked and there were

[46:44] questions regarding investments current

[46:47] institutions and policies

[46:49] current institutions and practices and

[46:50] policies next slide

[46:53] they were first asked about the

[46:54] allocation of money next slide

[46:58] what safety means and looks like for

[46:59] people in the black community next life

[47:02] prioritization of policies they were

[47:04] given a list of policies and they were

[47:06] able to choose each policy was in a high

[47:08] priority a medium priority a low

[47:10] priority a policy they didn't want it

[47:12] off or something they were not sure of

[47:14] and also the opportunity to describe

[47:16] their answers what was it they did or

[47:18] didn't like about that policy next slide

[47:22] as you all saw this previously this is

[47:24] the list of those policies that were

[47:26] included in the survey next slide

[47:30] all right so the results of those

[47:32] questions are nets so included are both

[47:35] quantitative and qualitative data now

[47:37] again this was to understand what safe

[47:39] healthy and thriving communities mean to

[47:41] the black community

[47:42] three buckets if you will are investment

[47:45] current institutions and practices and

[47:47] policies next slide please

[47:51] all right so here we have a city budget

[47:52] so when asked to imagine themselves

[47:54] being in charge of the city budget and

[47:55] responsible for reducing a safe and

[47:57] driving community on average schenectady

[48:00] residents that participate in the survey

[48:02] prioritize long-term housing for all and

[48:04] expanding access to healthy food and

[48:06] hunger prevention services next slide

[48:08] please

[48:10] the next three which are all very close

[48:11] in allocation are quality physical and

[48:13] mental health care for all high quality

[48:16] public schools and living wage jobs for

[48:17] people all education levels the constant

[48:20] presence of police and police quit and

[48:21] receive the lowest amount of funding

[48:24] next slide please

[48:27] jails prisons and detention centers now

[48:29] when asked about jail's prison attention

[48:31] centers the great's response was to move

[48:33] away from imprisonment and toward

[48:34] diversity programs such as mentoring

[48:37] programs associative justice programs

[48:38] and job programs

[48:40] yeah no it should have been the next

[48:42] time after this this is where we stayed

[48:44] oh yeah

[48:45] okay so yeah

[48:51] i'm going to tell you to skip three

[48:53] slides ahead

[48:55] there it is that's all right yeah okay

[48:58] so on slides 15-17 75 percent of

[49:01] respondents will prefer a greater

[49:02] emphasis on community-based violence

[49:04] prevention programs that move away from

[49:06] police presence

[49:07] or responses as relates to preventing

[49:09] and responding alignments

[49:15] the next question asked about emergency

[49:16] response in the community 66 are

[49:19] responsible for a greater emphasis on

[49:21] first responders through emergencies

[49:22] that are unarmed and without threat of

[49:24] arrest

[49:25] next slide

[49:27] one more

[49:28] there we go

[49:30] um

[49:31] very hard to read on the screen

[49:33] but also in your packets this is the

[49:35] policy breakdown where they were able to

[49:37] decide high priority medium priority low

[49:39] priority etc etc as was mentioned

[49:43] they were able to choose a different one

[49:44] for each policy for each policy they

[49:46] indicated if it were

[49:48] which priority applied to them

[49:51] when prioritizing policies

[49:53] more jobs for all levels of education

[49:56] with good benefits that pay enough to

[49:57] support a family was a high priority for

[50:00] 85 percent of participants as was more

[50:04] food and nutritional assistance programs

[50:06] to address hunger

[50:08] a high priority for 84 of participants

[50:11] where affordable housing not shelters

[50:14] for families and individuals who become

[50:16] homeless and more money for public

[50:18] schools so that they have the space

[50:20] staff and resources they need to support

[50:22] all their students

[50:24] what we saw in the policies were similar

[50:27] to the allocation of resources next

[50:30] slide

[50:32] we've included a sample a small sample

[50:35] of the comments and written responses

[50:38] for three of the policies that were

[50:40] listed next slide

[50:43] yeah here we have a slightest about

[50:44] affordable housing not sheltered for

[50:46] families and individuals who become

[50:48] homeless now these are what folks have

[50:50] worked on to indicate some ideas about

[50:52] what they meant

[50:53] as you see on the screen

[50:55] folks like there are a lot of homeless

[50:56] people in the city

[50:58] having a safe environment to call home

[51:00] is so important for our community

[51:02] every person is entitled to clean safe

[51:04] living situation

[51:06] the rent is too damn high rent has

[51:08] skyrocketed and is outrageous are part

[51:10] of the comments from the community and

[51:12] what they were thinking

[51:14] next slide

[51:16] it's important to note that none of the

[51:18] comments were altered in any way

[51:20] they are reported as they were written

[51:22] they weren't changed for grammar or

[51:23] spelling or context however it was

[51:26] written that's what they wrote um that's

[51:28] how we recorded it and so for this

[51:30] particular policy it was to remove all

[51:33] forms of policing from public schools

[51:36] and replaced with school counselors

[51:37] psychologists behavioral specialists and

[51:39] trauma therapists

[51:40] again this is a sampling of what was

[51:43] seen within the survey

[51:45] not enough attention is given to the

[51:46] mental impact police presence has in

[51:48] schools

[51:51] in my experience police presence hasn't

[51:53] affected school a lot

[51:55] youth need to have someone listen to

[51:57] them and not judge that they will

[51:59] automatically be violent

[52:02] there's any number of examples that are

[52:05] in this slide that you all had

[52:07] previously

[52:08] and that we collected as part of this

[52:10] survey next slide

[52:14] so this is a larger police presence in

[52:16] the community on public transportation

[52:18] around the city and the schools and et

[52:19] cetera we see other comments from our

[52:22] community

[52:23] um no police presence they do too much

[52:24] harm

[52:26] it's good and bad which is important

[52:28] that's actually a really important point

[52:30] right there so out of all the folks that

[52:32] we gave the survey to there were folks

[52:34] that landed on different sides of

[52:36] talking about whether or not they wanted

[52:37] the police in the community or not but

[52:39] what we did notice a really good

[52:41] takeaway was that no matter who was on

[52:44] that survey on average everyone could

[52:45] all prioritize all these other things as

[52:47] being important to safety uh in their

[52:50] community um so that's really important

[52:51] so you get to see someone here saying

[52:53] good and bad um and you know well

[52:56] coordinated not more so not that it's

[52:58] about you know not having this at all

[53:01] but that they need to be well glory and

[53:02] they're addressing nature when they can

[53:04] next slide

[53:07] so what are the next steps

[53:08] we spent weeks talking to community

[53:11] members being really intentional about

[53:13] where we went

[53:14] from november through january the

[53:17] research the information that we

[53:18] gathered and then went to the research

[53:19] team in new york city they compiled the

[53:22] data and sent it back to us

[53:24] and when we started the survey we made a

[53:26] commitment to share the results back out

[53:28] with the community as well as other

[53:29] stakeholders

[53:30] as an example we presented the results

[53:32] to the police chief representatives from

[53:35] each of his departments

[53:37] as part of the continuing research that

[53:39] we are doing we are facilitating

[53:41] data-driven focus groups we actually

[53:43] held our first one on april 7th

[53:46] back at sikkim and we'll continue to go

[53:48] back to the locations where we started

[53:50] we'll go back to

[53:52] city michigan go back to the seat center

[53:54] we'll go back to the libraries in both

[53:56] hamilton hill and mount pleasant because

[53:58] those were the two major focuses of our

[54:00] area

[54:04] that's it so we'll take any questions

[54:06] but we look forward to the opportunity

[54:07] to be able to continue to share with you

[54:09] the false ideas concerns from community

[54:11] members supporting you and your mission

[54:13] to move forward policies and resources

[54:14] that represent the interest of the

[54:16] residents you serve

[54:18] it's really important and that last

[54:20] piece that i wrote there is about a

[54:21] community engagement how often are their

[54:24] who we're talking to and the

[54:25] conversation we're able to bring back to

[54:27] you all over suppressing the needs of

[54:28] the community it's not

[54:30] been seen at least in my you know it's

[54:32] my time here that there's been surveys

[54:33] like this and the type of engagement

[54:35] necessary to really

[54:37] hear from the community in the ways that

[54:38] actually have an impact

[54:40] any questions

[54:45] so i wanted to first thank you both of

[54:47] you for the efforts and investments you

[54:48] made into this survey

[54:50] as a person that took this uh and

[54:52] identified as a cisgender male who was a

[54:55] black schenectadian it was a mouthful

[54:58] in no way did i interpret oh your

[55:00] presentation has an all-encompassing

[55:03] gauge of all things affecting every

[55:05] single black person within this

[55:06] community how i internalized your words

[55:09] was more or less as a guide to help us

[55:12] define some areas that we could

[55:13] potentially address and have more of a

[55:16] pulse towards towards directing our

[55:18] efforts

[55:19] so with that there are a number of steps

[55:21] that are being being taken at this

[55:23] moment throughout the city

[55:25] what is the frequency of this survey to

[55:26] potentially grade the efforts that are

[55:29] undertaken

[55:31] i mean that's part of our future

[55:32] planning right the the work that i

[55:35] particularly have been doing for more

[55:37] than 10 years is to be a constant

[55:39] presence in this city that i was born

[55:41] and raised in

[55:42] to talk to community members and find

[55:44] out what's going on

[55:46] education and and safety are two of our

[55:49] main priorities as an organization um

[55:52] and so

[55:53] it is a bit of cyclical work right um to

[55:57] have these conversations find out what

[55:58] the community is saying and what's in

[56:01] their best interest based on their their

[56:03] needs on the lived experiences and as

[56:06] well as the data that we've seen from

[56:07] across the nation

[56:09] bring it back and then go have

[56:11] continuing conversations those focus

[56:13] groups so

[56:15] if there are particular things that we

[56:17] see arise we're then able to continue to

[56:20] work with the research team and create

[56:22] other surveys and have conversations um

[56:24] they've been a wonderful resource and

[56:26] they continue to support the work

[56:28] and i'll just i'll add to the you know

[56:30] one of the things that's an issue with

[56:32] addressing um

[56:34] things in the community is the

[56:35] consistency in which we're actually

[56:36] speaking with our community members and

[56:38] engaging them enough and what the issues

[56:40] are happening that we don't do it enough

[56:42] um for more opportunities to do that but

[56:45] actually um one of the cars that we have

[56:47] is coming back with the information that

[56:49] we gathered in our community um through

[56:51] community focus groups we already had

[56:52] one um at sycamore another one

[56:54] electricity bar and the libraries just

[56:57] so that like so one of the things that

[56:58] does is allow us one to like uh

[57:02] um give to the community the words that

[57:04] are from that community like we're going

[57:06] to put flowers up for people that take a

[57:07] survey to come back out here kind of

[57:09] these are results of that um and it's

[57:11] important to do that right so that we're

[57:13] engaged and that we act as a community

[57:16] that we're not we're not in this by

[57:18] ourselves right one of the things i tell

[57:19] a lot of people is that when you step

[57:21] outside of your house um you walk onto

[57:23] that sidewalk you go to a store like

[57:24] this belongs to you this is your city um

[57:27] it's a collective ownership but it

[57:29] belongs to all the same have some say so

[57:31] how this thing goes for you and having

[57:32] fun something we didn't mention that i

[57:34] think is important and we should have is

[57:36] that when we go back out to share this

[57:39] information

[57:40] everyone is welcome to come

[57:43] so when we were back at sikkim it wasn't

[57:45] just individuals that took the survey

[57:47] there were other individuals in the room

[57:48] there were also individuals that took

[57:50] the survey and could speak from their

[57:51] personal experience taking the survey

[57:53] and then hearing those results but there

[57:55] were other community partners as well

[57:57] bob carroll from the skype foundation

[57:59] was there

[58:01] tom from sicko was there so those

[58:04] partners being able to be part of that

[58:06] conversation as we share the information

[58:08] back out and then hearing their

[58:10] responses because we have that as well

[58:12] we have those um responses for

[58:15] what they said at that meeting which i

[58:16] believe is the other um

[58:18] yeah

[58:23] i have a question so you identified some

[58:24] things and what immediately came to my

[58:26] mind was about jobs and that was an

[58:28] important thing so

[58:29] since that was identified as such a high

[58:31] priority what steps are you actually

[58:33] taking to address that

[58:36] with other groups or however however

[58:38] you're facilitating that i mean when it

[58:40] comes to policies right there there are

[58:43] some very broad things listed

[58:45] and so part of those focus groups is

[58:47] then identifying down where do these

[58:50] community members see a potential for

[58:53] that to be addressed

[58:54] because one of the wonderful things

[58:56] about going out and talking to the

[58:57] community is that they are filled with

[58:58] ideas

[59:00] they have the answers to the problems

[59:02] it's just that no one's ever asked them

[59:04] so as part of these focus groups it's

[59:06] okay so if we say jobs what does that

[59:08] mean but is

[59:09] that focus group

[59:11] pulling in on that particular issue we

[59:13] were at sikkim so a lot of conversation

[59:16] around food as well as housing

[59:19] some of the other conversations that

[59:20] have been had about jobs is how do we

[59:24] create support

[59:25] for people to move into careers as a

[59:28] pathway

[59:30] your favorite example is um whenever we

[59:34] have construction here in the city how

[59:36] are we ensuring that our own residents

[59:39] are actually getting those jobs and that

[59:41] money stays here in the community how

[59:43] can we foster that what does that look

[59:45] like in addition to that like we've had

[59:47] a conversation with folks with cnn

[59:50] workforce initiative um and other like

[59:53] um

[59:54] uh the map program already something i

[59:56] spoke about here about and it's in the

[59:58] map program is a multi-architectural

[1:00:00] pre-apprenticeship program and it just

[1:00:02] meets people in the community where

[1:00:03] they're at as far as i understand what

[1:00:04] the construction trades it's a stipend

[1:00:06] six month program learning the basis of

[1:00:08] construction and another four month

[1:00:10] disciplinary program on whatever whether

[1:00:13] it's uh roofing or electrical work or

[1:00:15] whatever um that's stipend and then

[1:00:17] there's a partnership with the union

[1:00:18] that gets them jobs working on

[1:00:20] initiatives in the community to help

[1:00:22] revitalize it so those are the

[1:00:23] conversations we're having and we'd love

[1:00:24] to see actually have again it's

[1:00:26] connected so we're doing our work there

[1:00:29] to bring those type of ideas here and

[1:00:30] just have that conversation into the

[1:00:32] community

[1:00:34] any other questions

[1:00:38] well thank you very much for coming in

[1:00:39] for sharing this information and if the

[1:00:41] public wanted to see this is this a

[1:00:43] public document that people can access

[1:00:45] to so we haven't yet posted it online um

[1:00:48] we're trying to figure out what's the best way the most accessible way to

[1:00:52] do that dropping it in the google drive

[1:00:54] isn't always necessarily

[1:00:56] best fit right now

[1:00:58] we were able to share it out

[1:01:00] electronically i had to fix a couple

[1:01:02] typos so

[1:01:03] it's coming

[1:01:05] and

[1:01:06] if anyone is interested and want to copy

[1:01:08] they can email us

[1:01:10] free gmail.com

[1:01:11] well thank you very much for coming

[1:01:13] appreciate it

[1:01:24] i would like to call the public safety

[1:01:25] committee to order we have one item on

[1:01:27] the agenda today that is the school

[1:01:29] community engagement officer and that

[1:01:31] will be presented by either chief

[1:01:33] quicker or ac and or right

[1:01:59] okay

[1:02:06] um

[1:02:21] all right

[1:02:23] microphone

[1:02:24] no no but staying as close to this one

[1:02:26] as you can

[1:02:28] alright over here

[1:02:30] okay well good evening and thank you for

[1:02:32] having me um i put together a powerpoint

[1:02:35] presentation

[1:02:36] i have chief whipple with me and i also

[1:02:38] have sergeant lin here with me also

[1:02:40] and if any members of the council has

[1:02:43] questions

[1:02:44] but

[1:02:45] we're here to talk about community

[1:02:46] engagement officer which is a

[1:02:49] truly a partnership between the school

[1:02:51] district

[1:02:52] and the and the police department

[1:02:54] now

[1:02:56] it's important to start off with

[1:02:59] new york state governor's executive

[1:03:01] order 203 which was

[1:03:04] brought to us two years ago by governor

[1:03:06] cuomo

[1:03:08] and the recommendations uh derived from

[1:03:11] the collaboration that was held in

[1:03:14] response to that executive order which

[1:03:16] was then ratified by the city council on

[1:03:18] may 22 march 22nd of 2021

[1:03:21] signed by mayor mccarthy on march 31st

[1:03:24] and submitted to the state included

[1:03:26] two recommendations that were that really embodied community

[1:03:31] engagement and those were the creation

[1:03:34] of a community engagement officer

[1:03:36] uh unit of officers that received

[1:03:39] specialized training in the areas of

[1:03:40] harm reduction in addition to community

[1:03:42] health initiative training

[1:03:44] building a model

[1:03:46] within community policing where these

[1:03:48] officers will work to reduce the

[1:03:49] negative consequences of using drugs

[1:03:51] while understanding that an individual

[1:03:53] may not immediately stop

[1:03:55] that model was really specifically

[1:03:58] towards creating a unit that would go

[1:04:01] out and focus on harm reduction within

[1:04:03] our community but then number 18 of the

[1:04:05] recommendations was to expand our

[1:04:08] community policing efforts

[1:04:10] on the staff department to allow for

[1:04:11] community policing unit that will build

[1:04:14] neighborhood collaborations to build

[1:04:16] trust solve problems and reduce crime

[1:04:19] so that was put into the recommendations

[1:04:24] so why do we need police in schools

[1:04:26] that's why we're here today talking

[1:04:29] um many members of our community have

[1:04:31] asked that question i want to start off

[1:04:33] by saying that on any given day

[1:04:35] population of scentsy high school

[1:04:37] is approximately 2 800 students and

[1:04:40] staff

[1:04:41] in illinois middle school that number is

[1:04:44] approximately 780

[1:04:46] mount pleasant 870 steinmetz 315 central

[1:04:50] park middle school 800 and that's just

[1:04:53] those schools right there

[1:04:55] so concentrated populations

[1:04:57] of any of this size anywhere within the

[1:05:00] city

[1:05:01] would always be met with a threat

[1:05:03] assessment from the police department

[1:05:05] and we're talking about internal and

[1:05:07] external sources of that kind of

[1:05:10] population all coming together

[1:05:13] now the city of santa fe school district

[1:05:15] has had a history of police related

[1:05:17] issues

[1:05:18] that have been a concern to the police

[1:05:19] department leadership

[1:05:21] over the last few years and i brought

[1:05:23] those issues to

[1:05:25] former superintendent larry sprang

[1:05:27] and most recently uh superintendent

[1:05:29] annabal

[1:05:32] the concerns we had were that the staff

[1:05:36] had been discouraged from contacting the

[1:05:38] police

[1:05:39] this is feedback we got directly from

[1:05:41] the staff

[1:05:42] teachers administrators support workers

[1:05:45] there were incidents that were not

[1:05:46] reported to the police assaults that

[1:05:48] occurred in the school

[1:05:50] past assault disclosures

[1:05:53] threats

[1:05:54] menacing

[1:05:57] students coming into the school with

[1:05:58] weapons

[1:05:59] not being reported

[1:06:01] investigations that were of criminal

[1:06:03] nature

[1:06:04] i'm sorry investigations that involved

[1:06:07] that of a crime

[1:06:08] that were the investigations were

[1:06:10] started and completed

[1:06:12] prior to reporting it to the police

[1:06:16] fights

[1:06:17] in

[1:06:18] or near the schools

[1:06:20] lunchtime

[1:06:21] sergeant linear can expand more on that

[1:06:23] but lunchtime many fights in the schools

[1:06:26] um and then in the neighboring community

[1:06:28] outside of the school

[1:06:31] and not specifically the high school but

[1:06:33] other schools like oneida and mount

[1:06:35] pleasant middle school

[1:06:37] persons with mental health disorder in

[1:06:40] the school district

[1:06:41] um not always having local crisis unit

[1:06:44] within the school

[1:06:45] available to be utilized

[1:06:48] trespassing

[1:06:50] of suspended students excel students

[1:06:53] parents of students coming into the

[1:06:55] school

[1:06:56] trespassers with no affiliation like

[1:06:58] students from other schools

[1:07:01] and then other and then students leaving

[1:07:03] school grounds

[1:07:04] um and engaging

[1:07:06] in an activity outside the school

[1:07:08] district that would receive that would

[1:07:10] prompt people to call the police

[1:07:12] it's important to note that many of

[1:07:14] these concerns almost all of them

[1:07:17] were noted and brought to us before our

[1:07:19] global pandemic of 2020 and when the

[1:07:22] pandemic hit in school shut down it kind

[1:07:25] of

[1:07:25] hit pause for us

[1:07:28] so

[1:07:29] i had a report generated and everything

[1:07:31] that was going to go to superintendent

[1:07:32] spring and then the pandemic had

[1:07:35] but when the same pattern emerged in the

[1:07:37] first two months of this school year

[1:07:39] 2021

[1:07:40] i called for a meeting with

[1:07:42] superintendent solaire

[1:07:44] and he brought his leadership staff in

[1:07:46] so we could discuss this issue

[1:07:49] and that is when a partnership was

[1:07:51] formed

[1:07:52] to see

[1:07:53] the

[1:07:56] partnership was formed to solve what was

[1:07:58] seen as a safety crisis that was

[1:07:59] developing within the school district

[1:08:03] so the concept that we came up with that

[1:08:06] we agreed that police were needed to

[1:08:08] help solve the safety uh crisis that was

[1:08:11] developing

[1:08:12] but we would need to meet and look at

[1:08:17] what that would look like what our role

[1:08:18] will be in the schools

[1:08:20] so the leadership of the school district

[1:08:21] and the leadership of the police

[1:08:22] department we collaborated on many

[1:08:24] meetings to discuss the needs of the

[1:08:27] school district community

[1:08:29] we conceptualized the community

[1:08:31] engagement model

[1:08:33] the one that i just explained to you

[1:08:34] that was derived out of the executive

[1:08:37] order 203

[1:08:40] and what was needed within the school

[1:08:41] district itself

[1:08:44] that police officers would have to be

[1:08:45] specially trained

[1:08:46] [Music]

[1:08:48] and that we would want to make sure that

[1:08:50] we

[1:08:51] not only provided them the training that

[1:08:55] teachers and administrators in the

[1:08:56] school district were getting but that

[1:08:58] we're also going to reach out to

[1:09:00] industry leaders

[1:09:01] in the school resource officer training

[1:09:03] field and get them the training also

[1:09:06] so a true partnership form meeting with

[1:09:08] mayor mccarthy and superintendent

[1:09:10] solaire

[1:09:12] it was agreed upon that the school

[1:09:13] district

[1:09:15] that officers in the school benefited

[1:09:16] the city

[1:09:17] and school district equally so the cost

[1:09:20] of the program should be shared equally

[1:09:24] one of my uh one of my requirements for

[1:09:27] this to happen was accountability

[1:09:30] we recognize that um

[1:09:32] nobody wants to be placed you know

[1:09:35] in our perfect world police aren't even

[1:09:37] needed

[1:09:38] um and that the presence of the police

[1:09:40] officers may make some students

[1:09:41] uncomfortable

[1:09:43] and to get past that

[1:09:44] we're going to build trust we're going

[1:09:46] to be

[1:09:47] really focused on building trucks

[1:09:49] i'm sorry building

[1:09:51] trust

[1:09:52] officers need to be held accountable to

[1:09:54] meet the needs of the student population

[1:09:56] and deliver that

[1:09:58] consistent level of service to the

[1:09:59] population over time

[1:10:02] to accomplish this consistent

[1:10:04] supervision would be necessary to

[1:10:06] accelerate that trust building that's

[1:10:08] why i asked for a

[1:10:11] um a sergeant to be well i i required a

[1:10:14] sergeant be placed

[1:10:15] in the school district

[1:10:17] pilot program to start off

[1:10:20] so the plan

[1:10:22] this is a map of the city that's

[1:10:24] connected with all the schools

[1:10:26] and the plan that we came up with was

[1:10:29] two officers in the high school

[1:10:32] you just got to hit the buttons

[1:10:34] to also in high school

[1:10:36] and then the other school dish the

[1:10:38] schools that we were really focused on

[1:10:39] were the two the four middle schools

[1:10:45] mount pleasant middle school not

[1:10:46] pleasant valley middle school is

[1:10:48] not named correctly that's an elementary

[1:10:51] school so we were focused on those

[1:10:52] middle schools

[1:10:54] and then we didn't want to forget the

[1:10:55] elementary schools

[1:11:00] there's a whole bunch of them

[1:11:04] so

[1:11:05] taking all the schools into account

[1:11:10] again the plan really was came down to

[1:11:12] that we would want a sergeant to oversee

[1:11:15] this whole program

[1:11:16] we would put two officers in the high

[1:11:18] school because the population was 2800

[1:11:22] we would then place one officer that

[1:11:24] would be

[1:11:25] assigned to

[1:11:27] oneida middle school and central park

[1:11:29] middle school one officer for both

[1:11:31] schools go back and forth and be there

[1:11:34] to meet the needs of the community as

[1:11:36] needed

[1:11:37] one officer from mount pleasant middle

[1:11:39] school and

[1:11:41] steinbeck's career leadership academy

[1:11:44] and washington irving that will

[1:11:45] basically meet the needs of those three

[1:11:47] there

[1:11:48] and

[1:11:49] [Music]

[1:11:50] the sergeant would be a floater to float

[1:11:52] between them as needed and then we would

[1:11:55] have

[1:11:56] one officer that would go

[1:11:58] to float between all of the elementary

[1:12:01] schools

[1:12:03] and that's how we got to the number of

[1:12:04] six

[1:12:08] the cost of 100 000 plus benefits

[1:12:14] that was the number that was used to

[1:12:16] calculate the share of expense and the

[1:12:18] easy math is

[1:12:20] sharing 100 dollars that's 50 000

[1:12:23] for the school 50 000 for the city

[1:12:26] but

[1:12:27] as the years go on and raise it in cost

[1:12:30] increase approximate raises we built in

[1:12:33] a two percent increase so

[1:12:35] year two would be a hundred and two

[1:12:36] thousand

[1:12:38] fifty percent of each fifty one thousand

[1:12:40] year three

[1:12:41] two percent on top of that so year three

[1:12:43] would be fifty two thousand twenty each

[1:12:46] now this agreement maintains that all

[1:12:48] over time associated with working in

[1:12:50] schools

[1:12:51] such as

[1:12:52] varsity uh games

[1:12:55] dances things like that

[1:12:57] paid 100 by the district which is our

[1:12:59] current arrangement so those those

[1:13:02] numbers were simply just for staffing

[1:13:04] during school days

[1:13:08] so that's the cost so what's the benefit

[1:13:14] that i see

[1:13:16] is building the building of bonds

[1:13:17] between students and officers and what they do they lead to they lead to

[1:13:21] an improved sense of safety

[1:13:23] inside the school outside the school we

[1:13:25] want students and staff and faculty to

[1:13:28] feel safe in

[1:13:31] it school benefit by having improved

[1:13:33] interaction with police officers for

[1:13:35] students they will become familiar with

[1:13:37] police officers you'll feel comfortable

[1:13:39] going up to them whether it's

[1:13:41] inside school or outside the school

[1:13:43] they'll have a better understanding of

[1:13:45] them by the mutual respect

[1:13:49] i personally have experienced

[1:13:52] cases where

[1:13:54] back when we had school resource

[1:13:56] officers they got to know the student

[1:13:58] body so well it paid dividends years

[1:14:01] into the future i'd be out on calls

[1:14:03] where situations were tense and those

[1:14:06] officers that were school resource

[1:14:07] officers were able to go in there and

[1:14:09] comp things down simply because they

[1:14:11] knew the person

[1:14:12] that was possibly being problematic or

[1:14:14] they knew one of the complaints and they

[1:14:16] were able to uh ease tension so

[1:14:19] that familiarity to me is one of the

[1:14:22] biggest benefits

[1:14:23] and it's an investment that

[1:14:26] goes into the future you know

[1:14:29] students that are 10 years old now will

[1:14:31] know police officers the rest of their

[1:14:32] lives

[1:14:34] students who trust officers will bring

[1:14:36] problems to them that they have for

[1:14:38] justice guidance for counseling

[1:14:41] that's another important piece is that

[1:14:44] we want access to the police department

[1:14:46] to be there for for the students if they

[1:14:48] need it they don't feel comfortable

[1:14:49] giving it at home or being able to call

[1:14:52] and get police officers

[1:14:56] and and then the last benefit really is

[1:14:58] for the school

[1:14:59] to reduce reduce need for for police

[1:15:02] being called to the schools

[1:15:04] they um

[1:15:06] they get priority service in the schools

[1:15:09] what the benefit for the school is for

[1:15:11] the for the city

[1:15:14] we're going to have

[1:15:15] problems

[1:15:16] dealt with

[1:15:17] before they become bigger

[1:15:19] nip it in the mud

[1:15:21] be able to address things before they

[1:15:23] turn into a police call

[1:15:25] and

[1:15:28] basically pay it forward within the

[1:15:30] school

[1:15:31] system itself as far as taking care of

[1:15:33] themselves policing themselves

[1:15:40] we started we recognized the lead in

[1:15:43] september

[1:15:45] and october that's when our discussion

[1:15:47] phase was we implemented this program in

[1:15:50] november you'll see the calls for

[1:15:52] service were

[1:15:54] 11217 those two months respectfully

[1:15:57] they the pilot program starts they drop

[1:15:59] down to 68 they go up to 89 57 61.80 so

[1:16:04] there is a reduction in the calls for

[1:16:06] service that originated from the school

[1:16:08] district with the implementation of the

[1:16:10] pilot program which was just simply two

[1:16:13] officers

[1:16:17] so our request before you now would be

[1:16:23] as part of our police reform and

[1:16:25] reinvention collaborative

[1:16:27] texas county police department and the

[1:16:29] city school district wish to enter into

[1:16:30] an agreement for the police department

[1:16:32] to provide up to six officers five

[1:16:35] officers and one sergeant as community

[1:16:37] engagement officers assigned to the

[1:16:39] designated city schools

[1:16:43] this uh this agreement would take the

[1:16:44] effect july 1st and run through june

[1:16:47] 30th 2023

[1:16:50] it is for a total of six officers but

[1:16:52] our phase one would be

[1:16:54] to add

[1:16:55] three officers immediately

[1:17:00] and then at the beginning of 2023

[1:17:02] september of 23

[1:17:04] to add those additional three officers

[1:17:08] we had to do this to get them properly

[1:17:10] trained i can't just take six officers

[1:17:12] out of my staffing that i currently have

[1:17:15] and we would request that

[1:17:17] for the 2022 budget that i add those

[1:17:20] three positions

[1:17:22] that is a budget neutral

[1:17:24] um request

[1:17:26] because the amount of money that we

[1:17:28] would receive

[1:17:30] from the school district should cover

[1:17:31] the cost of the officers going to the

[1:17:33] police academy to replace the officers

[1:17:36] that are in schools

[1:17:37] and then we would be making this another

[1:17:40] an additional request for the three in

[1:17:42] our 23 2023 budget request

[1:17:47] that is your comment

[1:17:51] thank you and we will uh open it up to

[1:17:53] any questions at this time

[1:17:56] thank you and thank you ac

[1:17:58] um

[1:17:59] i think it's appropriate to hear from

[1:18:01] our resource officer that's here uh if

[1:18:04] unless there any objections would you

[1:18:05] mind coming up to the front and talking

[1:18:07] about a typical day

[1:18:11] it's briefly summarizing i imagine it

[1:18:13] came from that

[1:18:14] so so the days vary based on the needs

[1:18:16] of the district um

[1:18:19] uh early on i mean me and officer rivera

[1:18:22] usually sign in the kids that are in

[1:18:24] school late and then it's responding on

[1:18:28] a neat basis so

[1:18:29] um

[1:18:30] you know we have to keep in mind there's

[1:18:33] 17

[1:18:34] uh different schools within the district

[1:18:37] so you know they could be initial uh you

[1:18:40] know child major disclosure at mount

[1:18:42] pleasant middle school or

[1:18:44] howe elementary um they range between

[1:18:48] you know we've had threats written on

[1:18:49] the wall specifics as it relates to

[1:18:52] um you know

[1:18:55] whether they say they're gonna

[1:18:57] cause harm at uh on a circle at a

[1:19:00] certain school at a certain time so you

[1:19:02] know

[1:19:03] it it varies i mean i've talked to

[1:19:06] staff members about

[1:19:08] the eviction process

[1:19:12] and

[1:19:13] again it just depends on the day

[1:19:16] good thank you

[1:19:19] are there any questions from my fellow

[1:19:21] council members mr mutaver

[1:19:24] chief you you mentioned uh this one

[1:19:25] question i was gonna mention that money

[1:19:27] the reimbursement receipt you're gonna

[1:19:29] receive from the school will turn back

[1:19:30] into hiring additional uh staffing so

[1:19:33] that would be incremental as you are

[1:19:34] putting stuff into the school district

[1:19:37] you're going to use that reimbursement

[1:19:38] to hire additional staff or you are even

[1:19:40] going to do that one time next year

[1:19:44] the additional

[1:19:46] fighter

[1:19:48] the

[1:19:51] we would put the more senior officers in

[1:19:53] the school and we would hire officers

[1:19:54] train them those officers that would

[1:19:57] then go on the street and staff our our

[1:19:59] streets are typically the lower paid

[1:20:01] ones until they get the seniority and

[1:20:04] they rise up step so

[1:20:05] the uh the model that we have built out

[1:20:07] which is that the that they're sharing

[1:20:10] the cost of the officer we're giving

[1:20:11] them

[1:20:12] you know it covers a lot a large amount of the

[1:20:15] cost of the officer that is replacing

[1:20:17] them with also that's why it's

[1:20:19] considered budget neutral this this year

[1:20:21] and

[1:20:22] when you build it up maybe

[1:20:24] 10 years from now it's a different

[1:20:26] conversation but for right now

[1:20:29] it's um you know

[1:20:31] it it does it there's not a heavy lift

[1:20:32] from the department from uh from finance

[1:20:34] end

[1:20:36] so the cost that you quoted here is the

[1:20:37] senior officer

[1:20:39] pretty much yeah

[1:20:41] yes

[1:20:42] and you also mentioned that you will be

[1:20:43] hiring senior officer into the school

[1:20:45] district

[1:20:46] my one of my concerns is that um

[1:20:49] when you can be hiring senior officer in

[1:20:51] the contract it says

[1:20:52] recommendation of the pba the mayor and

[1:20:54] you i would also like to see the officer

[1:20:57] who has experience dealing with youth

[1:21:00] you know several years over the course

[1:21:02] of being a police department we consider

[1:21:05] placement here

[1:21:08] yeah the the way our system works is

[1:21:11] that

[1:21:12] we have a seniority system with a police

[1:21:14] department for for the control level so

[1:21:17] when a job opens up we bid it for for

[1:21:20] senior and the senior bidder gets the

[1:21:22] opportunity to interview

[1:21:24] so

[1:21:25] um

[1:21:26] so through that process

[1:21:29] we we find out who the most senior

[1:21:30] person is and then we take a look at

[1:21:32] them and interview them and if we don't

[1:21:34] feel that they're the right fit then we

[1:21:36] move on to the next one you know we have

[1:21:38] that discussion and then we have the

[1:21:40] additional layer of sending them before

[1:21:42] the school board

[1:21:44] administration the school administration

[1:21:46] to

[1:21:47] um for them to give approval also

[1:21:53] so i'd like to follow up on that so um i

[1:21:55] know that you said because i read here

[1:21:56] that you do result in collective

[1:21:58] bargaining which is clearly seniority

[1:22:00] etc but um are there instances or some

[1:22:03] things that you do that are merit based

[1:22:04] positions

[1:22:05] um and because i share mr muda baron's

[1:22:09] um concern with that we want officers

[1:22:12] who i mean it takes a certain amount of

[1:22:14] temperament it takes a certain

[1:22:15] temperament to work with young people

[1:22:17] on a day-to-day basis um so is there a

[1:22:21] possibility that there can be a

[1:22:22] merit-based system so that officers are

[1:22:24] chosen as opposed to

[1:22:26] um

[1:22:27] just doing it by seniority because

[1:22:29] frankly looking at looking at it from

[1:22:31] eight to four is is a pretty nice shift

[1:22:34] and in the schools so um and maybe i

[1:22:36] make it sound easier than it really is

[1:22:38] but it's it's a shift that people may

[1:22:40] bid on words as opposed to being out in

[1:22:42] the street so

[1:22:43] um you know i go back to is is merit

[1:22:46] based an opportunity for pete for um

[1:22:48] this as opposed to

[1:22:50] just based on seniority

[1:22:53] we have some jobs in our department that

[1:22:55] are merit-based those were derived

[1:22:58] through

[1:22:59] the negotiation process with the pba

[1:23:01] i think that before we um i'll refer to the mayor on this before

[1:23:06] we go too deep into that conversation it

[1:23:08] might be something more for

[1:23:10] executive session to discuss

[1:23:12] than do it publicly

[1:23:16] i would agree with the chief even though

[1:23:18] the pba has been

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[1:23:23] a partner in this in terms of discussion

[1:23:25] trying to get the right people there

[1:23:28] and you know you saw from the chart you

[1:23:30] have to understand we're putting police

[1:23:33] in the schools

[1:23:35] every day now

[1:23:37] those are calls for service they aren't

[1:23:39] just stopping there randomly it's

[1:23:42] somebody's dialing 9-1-1 reaching out to

[1:23:44] the police department we're sending a

[1:23:46] car

[1:23:47] so this allows officers to be assigned

[1:23:50] to

[1:23:51] the school district so they're building

[1:23:54] a better rapport a more functional

[1:23:56] knowledge of who the leadership is

[1:23:58] within

[1:23:59] each individual building and then also

[1:24:02] rapport with the students

[1:24:05] and i think it's a better way to respond

[1:24:07] to those calls and you saw

[1:24:09] it's still preliminary data but we had

[1:24:11] two

[1:24:12] fairly active ones when the

[1:24:14] officers are assigned there you see that

[1:24:17] start to drop in the earlier months on

[1:24:19] that chart you have to remember covet is

[1:24:21] there so that the baseline is skewed

[1:24:25] but

[1:24:26] i think just going forward

[1:24:29] it's better to have these officers there

[1:24:32] than having somebody

[1:24:34] who would be randomly dispatched there

[1:24:36] based on the configuration that we use

[1:24:39] in the street

[1:24:40] where you can't always guarantee

[1:24:42] the officer with the training

[1:24:45] unique to the school is going to go

[1:24:46] there

[1:24:48] and it's an evolutionary model

[1:24:52] it's

[1:24:54] one that

[1:24:55] i think is going to pay off

[1:24:58] good dividends it's part of the reform

[1:25:00] package

[1:25:01] and the dialogue has been

[1:25:04] one that i'll call just dynamic so we're

[1:25:06] looking at how do you do it better how

[1:25:08] do you engage

[1:25:10] students how do we better

[1:25:12] serve the public as a whole

[1:25:14] and

[1:25:16] if we can drop those calls down to zero

[1:25:18] would be the ideal

[1:25:20] end game

[1:25:22] but yes there are some components where

[1:25:24] you get into an executive session

[1:25:26] if the council would like to do that or

[1:25:29] just follow up discussions

[1:25:31] uh depending on what specific questions

[1:25:34] there are i do have oh sorry i haven't

[1:25:36] had further questions so currently you

[1:25:38] have two officers in the schools yes

[1:25:40] just two and were they chosen for

[1:25:42] through the collective bargaining system

[1:25:44] they were the senior bidders

[1:25:46] so other people been but they were the

[1:25:48] highest okay um

[1:25:51] and also when when we did the reform and

[1:25:53] reinvention which this came out of that

[1:25:56] were community engagement officers were

[1:25:57] the was the intent for them to be in

[1:25:59] school was that the intent when we when

[1:26:01] that piece of the legislation the plan

[1:26:04] was passed no okay no um it was um it

[1:26:08] was part of the process of sitting down

[1:26:10] with the superintendent and his

[1:26:11] leadership staff and we started talking

[1:26:13] about our reinforcement reinvention

[1:26:15] collaborative and the idea behind the

[1:26:17] community engagement officer and he

[1:26:20] really liked that idea that's why we

[1:26:22] chose the name rather than school

[1:26:23] resource officer

[1:26:24] is that um you know we knew that we

[1:26:27] wanted to engage more with the community

[1:26:29] he knew that he wanted us there

[1:26:32] for a variety of different reasons

[1:26:34] and we just felt that it it it really

[1:26:38] it wasn't exact fit but it was a fit

[1:26:40] there

[1:26:41] and and just to go back to the officers

[1:26:44] um and and

[1:26:46] them getting the job through the

[1:26:47] seniority process

[1:26:49] i like to tell i like to say that it's

[1:26:51] my job it's chief whipple's job

[1:26:54] to make sure that every officer working

[1:26:56] for us is going to be

[1:26:58] regardless of how they get the job

[1:27:00] appropriate to go into the police

[1:27:01] department go into the schools like i

[1:27:03] don't want to just find that diamond in

[1:27:05] the rough police officer going to

[1:27:06] schools i want every single one of my

[1:27:08] officers that works the street to be

[1:27:10] acceptable to go into the schools and

[1:27:12] that's what that's what we work for

[1:27:14] every day

[1:27:20] um

[1:27:21] in terms of the training that the

[1:27:22] officers um i believe that there's like

[1:27:24] a more comprehensive training that the

[1:27:26] safety team undergoes

[1:27:28] can you talk a little bit about that

[1:27:30] process in terms of some of the topics

[1:27:32] and presenters that that meet with

[1:27:35] the team

[1:27:36] um and do the training

[1:27:38] i mean the training that's above and

[1:27:39] beyond

[1:27:40] you know the police training

[1:27:42] um

[1:27:44] i'm not i'm not very familiar with this

[1:27:46] sergeant might be i'll help out a little

[1:27:48] bit with it i know that there's an

[1:27:49] organization called nasro national

[1:27:51] association of resource officers it's a

[1:27:54] basic school

[1:27:55] resource officer training we do plan on

[1:27:58] sending our officers there to that

[1:27:59] training

[1:28:00] and i know that there's other training

[1:28:03] that has been put on by the school

[1:28:05] district and by the school safety

[1:28:06] director jeff russo that they've already

[1:28:08] gone to

[1:28:10] um and they're invited to

[1:28:12] it was the therapeutic crisis

[1:28:14] intervention um that was you know given

[1:28:16] by their put on that their staff at the

[1:28:20] district um

[1:28:22] they take

[1:28:24] we completed that with their school

[1:28:26] psychologists

[1:28:27] one of the school counselors and

[1:28:29] a master social worker

[1:28:34] and i have another question thank you um

[1:28:37] the other

[1:28:39] i have a concern that this that the

[1:28:41] officers have to float among the schools

[1:28:43] as opposed to

[1:28:45] officers that might be

[1:28:46] assigned to specific schools and i guess

[1:28:49] again um

[1:28:50] you know have you found that challenging

[1:28:52] that you have to be in many different

[1:28:54] places on any on any given given day

[1:28:58] can you join us up here sorry it looks

[1:29:00] like it's going to be a few questions

[1:29:01] for you

[1:29:02] because then you'll be on the camera the

[1:29:04] public seats

[1:29:07] yeah and that's what you know the pilot

[1:29:09] program right you know with two officers

[1:29:11] and in 17 different schools

[1:29:14] uh you know made for some busy days you

[1:29:16] know addressing the needs at the

[1:29:19] different campuses

[1:29:20] but you know that's what that's what

[1:29:22] we've been tasked with and i think

[1:29:25] that's

[1:29:26] you know collectively the school

[1:29:27] district you know saw the need for

[1:29:29] additional um offices to handle that

[1:29:32] workload

[1:29:34] so

[1:29:35] you know

[1:29:36] that's how we're handling it now and you

[1:29:39] know there's some emergencies that you

[1:29:40] know if i was tied up

[1:29:42] you know i had to supplement i swear patrol

[1:29:52] so i had a question uh pretty simply

[1:29:54] just how is success going to be measured

[1:29:56] i know that we are answering this at a

[1:29:59] point in time as you highlighted in the

[1:30:00] presentation where there's a lot of

[1:30:02] incidents that are happening in the

[1:30:03] school can you just identify some of the

[1:30:06] metrics that you're going to look at to

[1:30:07] be able to gauge

[1:30:08] whether this

[1:30:10] program is improving or

[1:30:12] not making any substantial benefits to

[1:30:14] those

[1:30:15] histories

[1:30:16] sure sure so

[1:30:19] we're going to measure this program like

[1:30:20] we do uh you know

[1:30:23] how we measure ourselves on a daily

[1:30:24] basis um

[1:30:26] you know we're going to look at calls

[1:30:27] for service that are generated we're

[1:30:29] going to look at the number of major

[1:30:30] incidents that are happening where we

[1:30:32] are needed there

[1:30:34] and we're you know we're going to just

[1:30:37] speak with the administration about

[1:30:39] conducting surveys getting feedback at

[1:30:42] the end of the school year i'm hearing

[1:30:44] from the school community their thoughts

[1:30:46] they're getting feedback um

[1:30:48] but quite generally

[1:30:50] um you know the the absence of major

[1:30:53] issues in the school is really going to

[1:30:54] speak volumes and that's what we're

[1:30:55] really aiming for

[1:30:57] we're in the business to put ourselves

[1:30:58] out of business we get to a point where

[1:31:00] there's no issues and and uh the

[1:31:03] empowerment is there for the school to

[1:31:04] police themselves through school

[1:31:06] schools security monitors you know i'd

[1:31:09] be happy just to leave just as fast as

[1:31:11] we're coming in there um so we're there

[1:31:13] for a reason

[1:31:14] and um you know who knows if it will be

[1:31:16] a short-term thing or a long-term thing

[1:31:18] but you know we want to make sure that

[1:31:21] it's a safe learning environment for

[1:31:23] everybody

[1:31:24] and that's that's primarily our focus

[1:31:27] and then a follow-up uh question to that

[1:31:30] is um based on your answer uh if the

[1:31:33] priority is safety uh and then the

[1:31:36] additional areas that were highlighted

[1:31:38] in the

[1:31:39] legislative reform to include like

[1:31:41] educators and then also

[1:31:48] to include educators and also making

[1:31:50] sure that the environment is safe and

[1:31:53] improving relationships um

[1:31:56] i think if the onus has placed too

[1:31:58] heavily on the safety element

[1:32:00] my question then is how is a community

[1:32:03] engagement officer different than a

[1:32:04] police officer that's in a school

[1:32:08] i was different than a police officer

[1:32:10] if more of the illness is placed on

[1:32:12] safety absent making sure that they're

[1:32:14] taking the appropriate steps to build

[1:32:16] those relationships and apply that

[1:32:18] community health initiative training

[1:32:20] that they we're trained to use uh if

[1:32:22] we're not creating that also i think

[1:32:24] that that can be very much a missed

[1:32:26] opportunity

[1:32:29] well

[1:32:32] if i think i understand your question

[1:32:34] right i'll answer it this way that you

[1:32:36] know on a daily basis when police

[1:32:38] officers are out in the community

[1:32:40] working we are there empowering the community

[1:32:45] to police themselves

[1:32:47] um and we are simply the uh the agents

[1:32:50] of the of the society

[1:32:53] to to have the ability to enforce laws

[1:32:57] if needed

[1:32:58] and and i would see that we are working

[1:33:00] the same way in the school district we

[1:33:02] are simply there we have the ability to

[1:33:04] act if needed but we don't want to act

[1:33:06] we want to empower the school safety

[1:33:09] officers

[1:33:10] the staff we want to have our presence

[1:33:12] there be of such that everybody just

[1:33:15] does what they're supposed to do and

[1:33:16] there's no no threat from the outside of people

[1:33:19] coming in there thinking that they can

[1:33:21] come in and assault a student

[1:33:23] because their children had a

[1:33:24] disagreement

[1:33:26] the day before

[1:33:27] we don't want one student to feel that

[1:33:29] they can attack another student and get

[1:33:31] away with it we don't want students feel

[1:33:33] that they can bring weapons into the

[1:33:34] schools and get away with it so we just

[1:33:36] simply want our presence that's there to

[1:33:39] be the deterrent

[1:33:41] at the same time

[1:33:43] while we're there we're taking the

[1:33:44] opportunity to be educators to be

[1:33:46] counselors to have to let the students

[1:33:48] have access

[1:33:49] to the police

[1:33:51] to meet their needs if they have any

[1:33:55] thank you and would you be opposed to uh

[1:33:58] if the council should decide

[1:34:01] i know you mentioned doing annual

[1:34:03] feedback surveys with the staff and the

[1:34:05] students i think it's our responsibility

[1:34:08] as a council to make sure that we're

[1:34:09] acting representative of the community's

[1:34:11] interests to potentially provide us just

[1:34:14] a report and an x amount of months

[1:34:16] should we approve that to just gauge how

[1:34:19] well that this program is functioning

[1:34:22] i would not be opposed to that i i plan

[1:34:24] on speaking the superintendent about

[1:34:25] that anyways

[1:34:27] thank you thank you uh it's perfect so i

[1:34:30] think i think when you said that you

[1:34:31] were going to um for your evaluation

[1:34:34] process it was going to be the school

[1:34:36] staff you didn't mention students so i'd

[1:34:38] like to know would students be including

[1:34:39] that and were students included in this

[1:34:42] whole discussion

[1:34:43] um

[1:34:44] you know in terms of um i know that well

[1:34:46] anyway we're students i'll let you

[1:34:47] answer we're students included in this

[1:34:49] discussion

[1:34:50] in terms of um the community engagement

[1:34:52] officers in school was there any kind of

[1:34:54] focus group among the students

[1:34:56] not by the police department but i

[1:34:57] believe there was done by the school

[1:34:59] superintendent

[1:35:01] and um and and that was just a mistake i

[1:35:03] would definitely want to get their input

[1:35:05] at the end of the school year like what

[1:35:06] are your thoughts behind it get get

[1:35:08] ideas from them on the program

[1:35:12] okay and i did have a question about the

[1:35:15] um the training the nasro

[1:35:18] but that is specifically training just

[1:35:21] for police officers right it's not it's not

[1:35:24] well what is it just specific like if

[1:35:26] you're going to police in the streets or

[1:35:28] does it include um police officers being

[1:35:31] in schools

[1:35:33] i believe

[1:35:34] specifically for

[1:35:36] school resource officers that's that

[1:35:38] specific training all right is there a

[1:35:40] breakdown somewhere of what actually i

[1:35:41] know that you meant you spoke it of what

[1:35:44] happens in that training and you don't

[1:35:45] have to have it right here right now but

[1:35:47] um if we have that

[1:35:48] yeah

[1:35:50] this

[1:35:51] is certainly available

[1:35:54] i believe it's available they have a

[1:35:55] website yes

[1:36:00] it's a model that the you know police

[1:36:01] officer has an informal counselor like

[1:36:04] he said a role model um and that's

[1:36:07] what's important for me is you know i

[1:36:10] didn't know any police officers growing

[1:36:11] up and i think it's important that you

[1:36:14] know

[1:36:15] uh you see

[1:36:17] you know officers that look like them

[1:36:19] that

[1:36:19] you know come from neighborhoods similar

[1:36:21] to theirs etc

[1:36:23] so

[1:36:24] you know i think it's an opportunity

[1:36:27] i know you talk about success but in

[1:36:29] terms of recruitment you know years ago

[1:36:31] i was tasked with recruitment and i

[1:36:33] think it's you know

[1:36:35] being a role model for

[1:36:37] our youth to be the difference that they want to

[1:36:40] see

[1:36:45] oh i'm sorry

[1:36:46] if i can just add something thank you

[1:36:48] i was in some of the conversations

[1:36:50] related to this agreement and the

[1:36:52] question didn't come up related to

[1:36:54] what this quarter field brought up

[1:36:56] related to nazareth

[1:36:58] the school district indicated that's the

[1:36:59] gold standard for training

[1:37:01] um there's it's obviously the national

[1:37:03] association there's a

[1:37:05] state version which actually doesn't

[1:37:07] meet

[1:37:08] according to the school district the

[1:37:10] same criteria that the national um

[1:37:13] training provides

[1:37:15] and as was indicated there is

[1:37:17] information related to it and i have it

[1:37:19] available to me too so i can certainly

[1:37:20] pass that well

[1:37:24] um

[1:37:27] yeah justin follow-up is border phila

[1:37:29] question

[1:37:30] community engagement officer when we

[1:37:32] passed the police reform and reinvention

[1:37:35] this would primarily target towards the

[1:37:38] community and now we're hiring these

[1:37:40] officers to compliment what is going on

[1:37:42] with the school district

[1:37:43] are you going to be hiring additional

[1:37:45] officers to go out into the community

[1:37:48] and be part of this also

[1:37:50] and do you have a target date for that

[1:37:53] yeah the the um

[1:37:55] the program that we have in the

[1:37:56] recommendations uh we have every

[1:37:59] intention of building that out we just

[1:38:01] haven't gotten

[1:38:03] we're not there yet

[1:38:05] we are putting the training we're

[1:38:07] implementing the training that we

[1:38:09] discussed for those officers already

[1:38:11] that's being built up

[1:38:12] but uh that's that's still in the works

[1:38:15] and i will be updating our collaborative

[1:38:17] on where we're at with that next week

[1:38:20] um you know or coming soon

[1:38:22] and um but

[1:38:24] we we originally applied for a cops

[1:38:26] grant to be able to build that program

[1:38:27] out we're not successful we're going to

[1:38:29] try again next year so that's the whole

[1:38:32] as far as that program goes a lot how

[1:38:34] does it meet those needs

[1:38:37] would it be safe to say that the

[1:38:38] reinforcement we're going to receive

[1:38:40] from the school will turn that into

[1:38:41] hiring additional staff that can be able

[1:38:44] to be community engagement officer that can be

[1:38:47] found within the community

[1:38:49] as a reimbursement rather than putting

[1:38:51] that money into

[1:38:52] something else

[1:38:54] talk about

[1:38:55] whether they're remorseful

[1:38:58] well they should just cover the six that

[1:39:00] we're going to be

[1:39:01] that we will be bringing on

[1:39:03] for them

[1:39:05] yeah but regardless we're going to hire

[1:39:07] these officers

[1:39:08] so those are reinforcements that we need

[1:39:10] to just return that back into something

[1:39:13] additional officer six more officer with

[1:39:15] that reimbursement that we're getting

[1:39:17] from the school

[1:39:19] the right person from the school if the

[1:39:20] council chooses to

[1:39:22] put more money in the budget but that's

[1:39:24] right now the department is lower

[1:39:27] staffing level with what i would prefer

[1:39:29] what the chief would prefer

[1:39:31] so it's the

[1:39:32] over the next

[1:39:34] 12 24 months

[1:39:36] try and work that back up

[1:39:38] to

[1:39:39] what we consider an adequate staffing

[1:39:41] level

[1:39:42] and part of that charge is to have those

[1:39:45] community engagement officers

[1:39:47] not only his specific assignments but

[1:39:50] every officer that's out on patrols the

[1:39:53] chief talks about being able to

[1:39:55] handle whatever the call comes up

[1:39:57] it's the nature of the department where

[1:40:02] some officers end up with a little area

[1:40:04] of specialty one way or the other by the

[1:40:07] luck of the draw some of the cases that

[1:40:09] they end up being assigned or calls they

[1:40:11] go to

[1:40:12] or their natural proclivity or

[1:40:15] educational background where they have

[1:40:17] a little bit different

[1:40:20] skill set that is more applicable to

[1:40:22] some of these but it's that make sure

[1:40:24] that everybody

[1:40:25] has the level that's able to serve the

[1:40:27] needs of the people when they get

[1:40:31] the calls and then hopefully as the

[1:40:33] calls go down

[1:40:36] that you can do more of the community

[1:40:38] engagement so that you're talking to

[1:40:40] people

[1:40:41] you're walking the beat you're having

[1:40:44] more of the deterrent effect

[1:40:46] and just a smoother engagement

[1:40:50] with the public as a whole

[1:40:54] yeah my concern is that we don't want to

[1:40:56] just leave behind you know i'm not

[1:40:57] saying you can leave it you're doing it

[1:40:58] it's a good program that we're spreading

[1:41:00] in school and community but i'll make

[1:41:02] sure that we are addressing

[1:41:04] the police reform that was intended for

[1:41:07] to have these officers into the

[1:41:09] community also at the same time

[1:41:12] they will

[1:41:13] follow the school and that's the goal

[1:41:16] as you know it's always trying to get

[1:41:18] the budget

[1:41:19] i have to mention it

[1:41:23] well i just want to clarify

[1:41:25] i and tell me if i'm wrong but i thought

[1:41:28] in our 2022 budget

[1:41:30] which we had the report already

[1:41:33] with the recommendations i thought we

[1:41:35] actually already had included money in

[1:41:37] this budget for

[1:41:39] community engagement officers

[1:41:41] and that this is a new program so this

[1:41:44] is new money on top of what we already

[1:41:46] put into the budget for

[1:41:49] adding community engagement officers but

[1:41:51] i could be wrong but that was my memory

[1:41:53] of this it's

[1:41:54] also the nature of hiring the police

[1:41:57] we're

[1:41:58] told

[1:41:59] to pass the civil service test

[1:42:01] be able to be hired

[1:42:03] we have to send them to training right

[1:42:06] so

[1:42:07] basically an officer

[1:42:09] that first year

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[1:42:12] can't be used and so it's been

[1:42:15] filling those positions that are in the

[1:42:17] budget

[1:42:18] and to maintain the level of staffing so

[1:42:20] this is

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[1:42:23] a

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[1:42:25] position i think works for everybody's

[1:42:28] benefit

[1:42:29] even though it might not be considered

[1:42:30] to be perfect

[1:42:36] oh

[1:42:37] yeah so i i just i would like um and i i

[1:42:40] it seems like we can't discuss it openly

[1:42:42] but i really would like to discuss

[1:42:44] um the mayor of base as opposed to just

[1:42:47] by seniority i think that's that's an

[1:42:49] important you know as we know people

[1:42:51] have different ideas about what should

[1:42:52] and shouldn't have in schools but i

[1:42:53] think it's extremely important that um

[1:42:56] we're placing um officers in schools who

[1:42:59] you know you know we want to look at

[1:43:02] just everything and make sure that it

[1:43:03] makes sense if this is what this is

[1:43:05] what's going to happen um that there

[1:43:07] should be a vetting process and

[1:43:09] not just the standard

[1:43:12] seniority process

[1:43:14] so i would like to have more discussion

[1:43:15] about that mr toro

[1:43:18] i thought i was under the impression

[1:43:19] that

[1:43:21] you would interview them and then the

[1:43:22] school board as well

[1:43:25] would interview the candidates for the

[1:43:27] positions in the school correct that's

[1:43:29] correct we do interview them however you

[1:43:32] know

[1:43:33] that interview isn't necessarily to

[1:43:34] select them as much as to interview them

[1:43:37] to potentially exclude them because the job is big it's theirs and then we

[1:43:43] interview them for the right fit if you

[1:43:45] feel they're not the right fit then we

[1:43:46] speak to them and said you're not the

[1:43:48] right fit

[1:43:49] and we and then when you who feels the

[1:43:51] right fit

[1:43:52] would go on to

[1:43:54] um

[1:43:55] be interviewed by the school board to

[1:43:56] make sure they're right fit as well

[1:43:58] correct okay my intention will be to

[1:44:00] present an officer to the school board

[1:44:02] that

[1:44:03] i'm confident that they're going to be

[1:44:04] fine

[1:44:06] but that process is different than the

[1:44:07] merit-based it's still by seniority

[1:44:10] so that's why i really wanted to discuss

[1:44:12] that

[1:44:15] okay so i'm in agreement with um just

[1:44:18] causing this conversation until we're

[1:44:20] able to pick this back up an executive

[1:44:22] session

[1:44:23] uh so pending any further questions no

[1:44:25] you'll have to move into executive

[1:44:27] session but we have to hold this in the

[1:44:29] data session

[1:44:32] now we just need to recess

[1:44:35] yeah if you're going to continue

[1:44:37] yes

[1:44:39] right

[1:44:42] second

[1:44:43] favorite

[1:44:44] all right

[1:44:45] unless there are any other topics for

[1:44:47] before the committee uh can i get a

[1:44:49] motion to adjourn normally

[1:44:51] no we just resign

[1:44:55] we'll pick it up

[1:44:57] i would like to call

[1:45:01] and this is a foreign reminder that

[1:45:03] calling for public hearing uh cdbg cv

[1:45:06] funding to prevent prepare for

[1:45:09] and respond for carolina virus and this

[1:45:11] is on april 25th

[1:45:14] and the second item is also a reminder

[1:45:16] for public hearing proposed annual

[1:45:18] action plan

[1:45:20] public hearing april 25th if there's

[1:45:23] nothing else before finance i ask for a

[1:45:25] motion to adjourn

[1:45:27] second second

[1:45:29] all in favor all right all right thank

[1:45:30] you

[1:45:31] i'd like to call the order city

[1:45:33] development and planning we have 13

[1:45:34] items on the agenda

[1:45:36] um i don't see mr walling

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[1:45:39] here

[1:45:41] on his way down okay

[1:45:44] he should be coming through the door any

[1:45:45] minute our first item is to authorize

[1:45:47] the issue issuance of a revocable permit

[1:45:50] number 668 suganesh hospitality for a

[1:45:53] sign that will overhang the cities right

[1:45:55] away at 759 state street

[1:45:59] i think that's detailed in the it is

[1:46:03] what they call it the standard

[1:46:04] application but ask the council's

[1:46:07] favorable consideration until

[1:46:10] mr i want to give the impression we get

[1:46:13] by without them but we could

[1:46:15] probably handle this one here's the sign

[1:46:19] does everyone have an opportunity to

[1:46:20] actually look at the information

[1:46:22] provided in their packet

[1:46:25] yes and so are there any questions

[1:46:29] if not i can stand in motion i'll move

[1:46:31] it

[1:46:32] second all right all those in favor fine

[1:46:35] okay um number two to authorize the

[1:46:38] mayor or his designated agreement with

[1:46:40] the new york state department of state

[1:46:43] for the downtown the downtown uh city's

[1:46:45] downtown reinvest revitalization

[1:46:47] initiative program contract number

[1:46:49] c1001884

[1:46:52] are you taking this one too man

[1:46:55] this is

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[1:46:57] part of the uh

[1:46:59] dri award and it's government so there's a little bit

[1:47:06] of paperwork

[1:47:09] and uh

[1:47:11] looking for you to move forward on this

[1:47:15] but this is

[1:47:16] the master contractor thing

[1:47:19] it's it's right here

[1:47:31] the delay is a little longer

[1:47:40] so we're talking about dri contract

[1:47:42] number 84. that is correct all right so

[1:47:45] what are the questions with contract

[1:47:47] number 84 are there any at this moment

[1:47:50] anyone have any questions

[1:47:53] okay state of motion so moved

[1:47:56] second always in favor hi all right item

[1:47:59] number three authorize the mayor or his

[1:48:01] destiny to intervene with the new york

[1:48:02] state department of state for the city's

[1:48:04] downtown utilization initiative program

[1:48:06] contract number one zero zero one eight five so this is

[1:48:11] i can't remember which one is which off

[1:48:12] the top of my head i think it's 85

[1:48:14] broadway and clinton

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[1:48:30] decorative lights on broadway and

[1:48:32] clinton where we don't have them to kind

[1:48:34] of match what we're doing downtown um

[1:48:36] it's the reason that you don't see us

[1:48:38] paving broadway right now with the

[1:48:40] national grid cuts because we're going

[1:48:41] to be coming in there others dri and

[1:48:42] doing the same thing so we're going to

[1:48:44] do it all at once get the trenching done

[1:48:46] get in there and put the lights in so

[1:48:49] uh it's a good project this is step one

[1:48:52] of

[1:48:52] many steps

[1:48:54] so you know this is going to be a long

[1:48:56] process getting everything done but once

[1:48:58] we get these contracts

[1:49:00] passed signed authorized out to them

[1:49:02] we'll start working on our request for

[1:49:04] proposals to actually get designed and

[1:49:06] then that will have to go to the state

[1:49:08] so

[1:49:09] do you know the cost of the project

[1:49:11] overall for the lighting the work the budget is

[1:49:15] eight years roughly around eight hundred

[1:49:17] thousand dollars

[1:49:19] oh wow okay yeah the other project the

[1:49:22] budget for those is is you know total

[1:49:24] projects two million but

[1:49:26] we're a little over that butt up

[1:49:28] we're probably gonna need to supplement

[1:49:29] some of that but that's when we get down

[1:49:31] the road with design and you know

[1:49:33] because that has the j street connector

[1:49:34] in it that has

[1:49:38] three projects j street and then there

[1:49:40] is city hall and

[1:49:43] i don't know

[1:49:44] but there's three projects lumped into

[1:49:46] the number 884

[1:49:47] but this is just for getting the

[1:49:49] contracts moving

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[1:49:54] could

[1:50:03] these

[1:50:04] on broadway

[1:50:06] were cover heads that we did replace

[1:50:08] with the leds but it's designed to

[1:50:12] net

[1:50:13] project was only the cobra heads

[1:50:16] these are to standardize the light so

[1:50:18] they're the decorative ones that you see

[1:50:20] in front of city hall and around

[1:50:22] the rest of downtown

[1:50:25] just to make it more visually attractive

[1:50:28] as we uh upgrade the streets and

[1:50:31] overall ambiance and downtown wave

[1:50:33] fighting

[1:50:35] okay weight finding is always a a piece

[1:50:38] that they put in there for uh going for

[1:50:39] a wavelength program

[1:50:42] are there any other questions

[1:50:46] second

[1:50:47] all those in favor of

[1:50:48] thank you

[1:50:50] ah and uh item number four our worst

[1:50:53] vehicle contract for the cities

[1:50:55] of schenectady greenhouse composting

[1:50:57] toilet

[1:50:59] so um

[1:51:01] the city

[1:51:02] owns the

[1:51:04] greenhouse in central park the friends

[1:51:06] of the greenhouse operate it and

[1:51:07] maintain it for the most part they

[1:51:09] really do a great job

[1:51:10] they have an existing

[1:51:12] bathroom facility in both the greenhouse

[1:51:15] utility building and in the teaching

[1:51:16] classroom neither building is ada

[1:51:20] accessible so when they have public

[1:51:22] events

[1:51:23] they don't have an accessible bathroom

[1:51:24] we did investigate the feasibility of

[1:51:27] making the building and the bathroom ada

[1:51:29] accessible the cost of it were

[1:51:32] they were high they were actually hiking

[1:51:34] you had to build a ramp and open the

[1:51:35] doors up and then after they did some

[1:51:36] investigating into it then it got into

[1:51:39] that's kind of theirs not only their

[1:51:40] teaching space but their office space so

[1:51:42] then it was do we really want the public

[1:51:44] to have access into our office space

[1:51:45] because they don't have enough staff to

[1:51:47] keep eyes on everybody

[1:51:48] and so then they started doing a little

[1:51:50] brainstorming and they found this

[1:51:53] composting toilet idea which is used at

[1:51:56] the pine bush

[1:51:57] it is a kit system

[1:52:00] the contractor will order the kit from

[1:52:02] cliva small term it's a sole source the

[1:52:04] kit will come on a truck the contractor

[1:52:06] puts it together digs a hole and it is a

[1:52:09] self-sustaining composting toilet no

[1:52:12] water and no electricity

[1:52:14] it actually is going to have a solar

[1:52:15] panel and an led light and a fan so the

[1:52:18] solar panel will power it to a battery

[1:52:20] um it will have a tank underneath it for waste and it'll compost and then

[1:52:26] every couple of years if we need to you

[1:52:28] know we have the equipment to empty that

[1:52:30] um the greenhouse thinks it fits more in

[1:52:33] line with their goals and it could be a

[1:52:35] teaching item what they're saying is you

[1:52:37] know here we have this the whole thing

[1:52:38] is compostable right it's about

[1:52:40] renewable trying to keep things

[1:52:42] sustainable so they think this will be

[1:52:43] good and it's a building it's a it's a

[1:52:45] fully ada building so let's know that

[1:52:48] part yeah

[1:52:50] so um

[1:52:51] so it was something that you know we

[1:52:52] have uh capital set aside to do this and

[1:52:55] it's actually probably

[1:52:57] a little cheaper than actually modifying

[1:52:59] everything to go this route and from

[1:53:00] there from their goals so i think it'll

[1:53:02] be a good project this is the same

[1:53:04] contractor by the way that we recently

[1:53:06] awarded the construction of the muni

[1:53:09] maintenance building

[1:53:11] and that is going on right now so

[1:53:14] we've had he's been he's been good he's

[1:53:15] working on the maintenance building the

[1:53:17] goal is what he's done with that in a

[1:53:18] month that he moves over and he does

[1:53:20] this

[1:53:21] so this cost of 52 000 is the

[1:53:25] thank entire cost

[1:53:25] great

[1:53:27] sounds quite interesting by the way oh

[1:53:29] and when it's all done yep come on down

[1:53:34] all right i'm moving i'll second it i

[1:53:36] was in favor

[1:53:38] and we're able to do number one we did

[1:53:40] it yeah

[1:53:47] so the next item on our agenda is um the

[1:53:50] hosting the quarterly meetings outside

[1:53:52] of city hall follow-up discussion

[1:53:55] mr williams so thank you for feeling i

[1:53:57] apologize i wasn't able to brief this

[1:53:59] last meeting um but i wanted to

[1:54:01] re-engage this discussion to see how

[1:54:03] everyone kind of felt i know there was

[1:54:04] an article that came on the gazette

[1:54:07] regarding this topic

[1:54:09] i know when i initially briefed it i

[1:54:11] mentioned uh quarterly but it's kind of

[1:54:13] developed into wanting it to be based

[1:54:15] around a topic after doing research into

[1:54:18] the city code the reason why i included

[1:54:20] chapter 28 was there's already a

[1:54:22] stipulation that allows us to conduct

[1:54:24] special meetings that are only based

[1:54:26] around um

[1:54:28] very defined topics please correct me if

[1:54:29] i'm wrong mr coleman but with respect to

[1:54:33] us having

[1:54:34] conversations throughout the community

[1:54:37] similar to this police

[1:54:39] or the school ceo's conversation we

[1:54:42] could have had this discussion at the

[1:54:44] high school where there have been a

[1:54:45] number of uh discussions already since

[1:54:47] it's already a centralized location for

[1:54:49] this this topic but

[1:54:52] just wanting to gauge where everyone was

[1:54:54] and then potentially highlight some

[1:54:56] equipment needs

[1:54:57] just so

[1:54:58] if interested i can begin just looking

[1:55:01] at what available facilities are in the

[1:55:03] area to see what our options are to

[1:55:05] potentially host uh

[1:55:08] a topic discussion this year want to be

[1:55:10] realistic don't want to open the door

[1:55:12] for too much expectation

[1:55:13] i do think this is something that is

[1:55:15] easily achievable

[1:55:17] if we can just fine-tune what we each

[1:55:19] expect from these meetings and uh

[1:55:21] provide enough notice in the public

[1:55:27] it's free

[1:55:29] um let's try to figure out how to look

[1:55:30] too thank you for that um i actually

[1:55:34] feel i just want to back up to the day

[1:55:36] that we had the girls here from the high

[1:55:38] school uh to meet with ms porterfield

[1:55:41] and ms detour and myself

[1:55:43] we got really positive feedback from

[1:55:45] that and they met with staff as well

[1:55:47] around the city hall and

[1:55:49] a comment that the

[1:55:52] teacher the coordinator of the program

[1:55:53] made afterwards was that

[1:55:56] some of the girls didn't even know that

[1:55:57] city hall existed

[1:55:59] um in their community they had no idea

[1:56:02] what this what this was

[1:56:04] um

[1:56:05] and

[1:56:06] uh

[1:56:08] i thought then i thought about

[1:56:10] the suggestion that you had made in

[1:56:12] terms of moving the moving the meetings

[1:56:14] around and i really maintain i really

[1:56:16] think that it's important for

[1:56:18] folks to come here

[1:56:20] and and feel

[1:56:22] like they're in the seat of democracy in

[1:56:24] our city

[1:56:25] at the same time i think that all of us

[1:56:27] have been going around to a lot of

[1:56:29] various neighborhood meetings

[1:56:31] um a lot of different topical meetings

[1:56:33] there's one coming up soon that is

[1:56:36] you know the one community uh the one

[1:56:38] schenectady initiative that the

[1:56:40] schenectady foundation is doing um so i think that there's a lot of meetings

[1:56:45] that we go to where we can solicit

[1:56:47] community input and hear community needs

[1:56:50] um on a really regular basis sikkem does

[1:56:53] different kinds of meetings um so

[1:56:57] now on to your suggestion that you just

[1:56:59] made doing maybe one meeting a year on

[1:57:02] topic

[1:57:03] um i think if that was outside of our

[1:57:06] regular council

[1:57:08] committee and and council meeting if we

[1:57:11] kept our regular council committee and

[1:57:13] council meetings here

[1:57:15] but did add in every so often a topical

[1:57:18] meeting like like you're suggesting i

[1:57:20] think that's an interesting proposition

[1:57:22] to consider but i would want to keep our

[1:57:25] counsel and committee meetings here

[1:57:27] on a regular basis

[1:57:35] so so again it's just being a conduit so

[1:57:37] i know absolutely we all attend a number

[1:57:39] of neighborhood association meetings

[1:57:41] throughout the city um however that

[1:57:44] doesn't specifically address every

[1:57:46] resident in the in the community so

[1:57:47] there's still a portion of of our city

[1:57:49] where residents are being missed so i

[1:57:52] think there's still benefits to us

[1:57:54] hosting

[1:57:55] uh

[1:57:56] city city council discussions within the public forum

[1:58:02] the reason why i included the caveat of

[1:58:04] just having our expectation for this

[1:58:06] year be one i don't think there's any

[1:58:08] reason to be hard-pressed to having

[1:58:09] quarterly meetings

[1:58:11] right as we're coming out

[1:58:13] potentially re-entering a pandemic

[1:58:15] and i think placing that expectation

[1:58:17] with the council that's still

[1:58:19] formulating together when the number of

[1:58:21] members are still new i think it's very

[1:58:23] grandiose

[1:58:25] so for me right now i think if the

[1:58:26] intent is to potentially get to having

[1:58:29] meetings

[1:58:30] frequently throughout the year in the

[1:58:31] community i think starting with calendar

[1:58:34] year 22 just having the expectation

[1:58:37] being with one coming back to the

[1:58:38] drawing board seeing how that went and

[1:58:40] then potentially reevaluating the

[1:58:42] benefits so it was just one to not

[1:58:45] kind of hard press tyus to

[1:58:51] yeah

[1:58:52] it is something that we have heard over

[1:58:54] the last year about

[1:58:56] campaigning talking to voters people who

[1:58:58] are engaged that we need to engage our

[1:59:00] community more

[1:59:02] of what we're doing in city hall exactly

[1:59:03] what the

[1:59:04] young lady has been asking

[1:59:07] about where is city hall

[1:59:09] so we want to take a good idea you're

[1:59:11] bringing this up here so that we take

[1:59:13] our meetings

[1:59:14] to the community when you say one

[1:59:16] meeting are you referring to committee

[1:59:18] meeting or city council

[1:59:21] or should we do both

[1:59:23] in the same cycle

[1:59:24] so we can currently do a special meeting

[1:59:26] um and

[1:59:28] at that point it would be outlining what

[1:59:30] is needed to have a

[1:59:32] habit wow

[1:59:33] what is needed to have a meeting in the

[1:59:35] public so the expectations with making

[1:59:37] sure that we had internet connectivity

[1:59:40] or making sure that we had an

[1:59:42] appropriate table size that type of

[1:59:43] stuff to make sure it wasn't too uh

[1:59:47] displaced when we go to a different venue um but absolutely i

[1:59:52] would love to potentially get to having more and this is something i

[1:59:55] support so what i need for us to work

[1:59:58] out the logistics how are we gonna be

[2:00:00] able to get live feed from their

[2:00:03] internet access and accommodation if we

[2:00:05] were to do this outside of city hall

[2:00:08] what are what are the things that we

[2:00:10] need to put in place

[2:00:11] so can we work on that to see how we are

[2:00:13] and what the council

[2:00:16] you know you know from the council in

[2:00:18] terms of what's doing that outside of

[2:00:19] city hall

[2:00:21] ms williams before having those

[2:00:23] discussions i didn't want to prematurely

[2:00:25] like start asking as if the council had

[2:00:27] already decided uh i'm just one

[2:00:29] representative so i feel very strongly

[2:00:31] about doing this but i want to make sure

[2:00:33] before i start asking smackley high

[2:00:35] school hey what are the expectations for

[2:00:38] us to be able to request the use of your

[2:00:40] auditorium i think it's it's it's

[2:00:42] important for me to make sure that we

[2:00:44] are all functioning with the same

[2:00:45] understanding and that i'm not acting

[2:00:47] inappropriately

[2:00:48] and you mentioned the high school i'm

[2:00:50] just going to mention the boys and girls

[2:00:51] club just for mentioning

[2:00:54] so i like the idea of having a special

[2:00:56] meeting that's and keeping our council

[2:00:58] meetings and our community meetings here

[2:01:00] right now since we're

[2:01:01] um

[2:01:02] taking baby steps so having a special

[2:01:04] meeting um and having it on a specific

[2:01:07] topic and actually um i received some

[2:01:09] emails actually from a former council

[2:01:11] member who who um mr o'brien who saw

[2:01:13] that you know who suggested that back in

[2:01:15] january actually that if we're going to

[2:01:17] do this maybe we should look at a

[2:01:19] special meeting on a particular topic so

[2:01:21] i'm very supportive of that uh if we

[2:01:24] can you know in the future do our

[2:01:26] committee meetings or council meetings

[2:01:27] outside i think that's going to take a

[2:01:29] lot of organizing

[2:01:30] and arranging but i'm certainly open to

[2:01:34] doing it at least one and actually if it

[2:01:36] works out well i'm open to doing more um

[2:01:40] as ms patrick has said that we do have

[2:01:42] uh we brought the young ladies here and

[2:01:43] they've never seen um

[2:01:45] they've never seen uh city hall before

[2:01:48] so i think that both things can happen

[2:01:50] that we're out in the public and we're

[2:01:52] also when we're there inviting people to

[2:01:55] actually come to city hall meetings

[2:01:56] because currently when people come it's

[2:01:58] just because they have an issue i'd love

[2:02:00] people to come just to you know to

[2:02:02] engage into you know um just to be there

[2:02:05] to kind of see how we do our process so

[2:02:07] i

[2:02:08] think that going out to them would

[2:02:10] probably get more people to to begin to

[2:02:12] come when we want to get on this council

[2:02:15] we certainly show up

[2:02:17] to the public on a regular basis for

[2:02:18] weeks on end so

[2:02:20] i think that you know once we're now

[2:02:22] we're all elected we you know coming

[2:02:24] back to the community and having a

[2:02:26] reform there

[2:02:27] is actually um kind of a nice idea and

[2:02:30] says to the community we don't only come

[2:02:32] um for this time so i think it might be

[2:02:33] a good idea

[2:02:35] mr palamini we don't need to have a

[2:02:37] special meeting to do this first of all

[2:02:39] we just can have a town hall

[2:02:42] and have people come and discuss what it

[2:02:45] is that interests them

[2:02:47] furthermore if we have a special meeting

[2:02:49] we are bound i'm assuming by

[2:02:52] the guidelines of a council meeting

[2:02:55] where each individual only has a certain

[2:02:57] amount of time to speak

[2:02:59] so why not just have informal town halls

[2:03:01] where we all show up

[2:03:03] let people come and say what they need

[2:03:06] to say if you want to form it around a

[2:03:08] particular topic that's fine but to have

[2:03:11] a special meeting

[2:03:13] quote unquote i don't see that as

[2:03:16] necessary we can do this already

[2:03:18] and the other aspect is if we do these

[2:03:21] special meetings what will be the cost

[2:03:23] there's got to be a cost associated with

[2:03:26] that

[2:03:27] and that i think is needed to

[2:03:30] have before we even go down that road

[2:03:33] but the town halls we can do

[2:03:36] so what mr waves said is that he wanted

[2:03:37] to make sure there was a consensus that

[2:03:39] we would do this before he looked into

[2:03:41] what the cost is going to be what

[2:03:42] equipment is needed because i think we

[2:03:44] do have to

[2:03:45] make sure that it's even something we

[2:03:46] want to do otherwise

[2:03:48] it's just um

[2:03:50] yes mr torreira mr williams

[2:03:53] exactly what neighborhoods aren't being

[2:03:55] represented

[2:03:58] by

[2:03:59] the local

[2:04:01] groups

[2:04:03] you say they don't have access to

[2:04:06] going to the neighborhood association

[2:04:08] meetings are there specific areas that

[2:04:10] can't get to a neighborhood meeting

[2:04:12] [Music]

[2:04:14] so i wasn't saying that individuals

[2:04:16] aren't able to become members of

[2:04:18] specific neighborhoods i'm saying the

[2:04:20] neighborhood associations aren't

[2:04:22] all-encompassing of every member and the

[2:04:24] community so there are certain members

[2:04:26] who just

[2:04:27] don't attend organizations and i think

[2:04:29] it's important for us to make certain

[2:04:31] steps to make sure that they are able to

[2:04:34] be

[2:04:35] viewers or to have better access so this

[2:04:38] is again just

[2:04:39] increasing access for people to to see

[2:04:41] us and then engage with us so we can

[2:04:44] then bring them in to to city hall

[2:04:46] because i've heard that frequently where

[2:04:48] people don't even know where city hall

[2:04:49] even exists

[2:04:51] and

[2:04:53] your goal is to increase people in

[2:04:55] attendance

[2:04:57] first of all at a special meeting and

[2:04:58] then secondly to get them to come here

[2:05:02] yes ms williams

[2:05:04] my intent very

[2:05:05] candidly is i

[2:05:07] it pains me to hear our public forums

[2:05:11] have zero comments

[2:05:12] and that represents a legislative item i

[2:05:15] think it is imperative that we have

[2:05:18] continuous input and feedback from the

[2:05:20] members of our city and if people aren't

[2:05:23] using the current processes that are in

[2:05:25] place us taking steps to see what more

[2:05:28] we can do to meet them where they are

[2:05:30] sure

[2:05:33] mayor

[2:05:35] in

[2:05:37] my uh

[2:05:38] years of experience you will

[2:05:41] notice

[2:05:42] you'll look back and appreciate where

[2:05:44] things have run fairly smoothly and

[2:05:46] people are all in agreement when you get

[2:05:48] the meeting where

[2:05:49] everybody comes out and all of a sudden

[2:05:52] things have changed so much so it runs

[2:05:54] in cycles that

[2:05:56] it may be self-correcting that you're

[2:05:58] looking to

[2:05:59] meet everybody then one day everybody's

[2:06:01] just going to show up here

[2:06:03] i'll be sick one day

[2:06:09] i think that

[2:06:10] me i think a good example are the

[2:06:12] neighborhood meetings that we did hold

[2:06:13] at the mayor hill held that we all

[2:06:15] attended um for the awkward process i

[2:06:17] mean i think that's pretty much the town

[2:06:19] hall

[2:06:20] model

[2:06:21] um that mr palamani is mentioning um

[2:06:25] and i'll just throw out there also that

[2:06:26] don't forget about the libraries as well

[2:06:28] because they have a lot of the

[2:06:30] technology

[2:06:31] um and

[2:06:32] pretty much we can

[2:06:34] as long as we get on schedule uh use

[2:06:36] those you know at no cost

[2:06:38] um so it would just be the technology

[2:06:40] piece um which

[2:06:50] and it's nothing new i mean we've done

[2:06:52] this in the past um unfortunately

[2:06:55] not very well attended

[2:06:57] but

[2:06:58] we have had these type of events so

[2:07:02] to have a town hall or

[2:07:04] and get people engaged with a particular

[2:07:06] topic or just what's on their mind

[2:07:10] this is nothing new for us and

[2:07:13] um

[2:07:14] it's something that we can do without

[2:07:16] having a special meeting

[2:07:19] i don't i don't recall as a whole entire

[2:07:22] council ever doing that we certainly

[2:07:24] took the budget on the road

[2:07:27] the budget yeah

[2:07:30] okay i don't remember that

[2:07:32] we did because i was the chair we set up

[2:07:34] the meetings and every time probably

[2:07:36] four or five different neighborhoods

[2:07:38] and there weren't very many people that came unfortunately

[2:07:43] okay

[2:07:44] if you do a budget with a tax increase

[2:07:51] but i was gonna say that's why it's

[2:07:52] important to do these types of

[2:07:55] deliberations as a council because

[2:07:56] that's a very important idea where i'll

[2:07:58] be able to i'm not in no position trying

[2:08:00] to have us recreate the wheel i just

[2:08:02] want to see it happen

[2:08:04] so if we can come together and develop a

[2:08:06] framework for how that town hall is

[2:08:08] going to happen occur and if we hold

[2:08:10] each other accountable to be present

[2:08:12] because i think there is power in

[2:08:14] numbers and as a council we should be

[2:08:16] engaging the city i am not opposed to

[2:08:18] just having something that is already

[2:08:20] done in the past just making sure we

[2:08:22] picked the right topic to improve our exposure

[2:08:27] nice

[2:08:28] so what are you looking for at this

[2:08:29] point in time

[2:08:34] i would say if the consensus is shifting

[2:08:36] towards having a town hall um

[2:08:40] i can formulate some themes

[2:08:42] to have the conversation around and if

[2:08:45] in the meantime everyone can just come

[2:08:47] up with what their individual

[2:08:48] expectations for town hall

[2:08:51] it's uh

[2:08:52] how you envision that being structured

[2:08:55] i think

[2:08:59] okay

[2:09:00] do you want to bring this back up

[2:09:02] in two weeks

[2:09:04] so in two weeks we just kind of come

[2:09:06] back to the table with um what we'd like

[2:09:09] to see happen maybe talk about some

[2:09:10] topics i'd like to see

[2:09:12] um and you'll look at we can talk about

[2:09:14] different locations

[2:09:16] and of course we don't have to worry

[2:09:18] about um concerning ourselves with

[2:09:20] making sure that we have the technology

[2:09:22] that we need so

[2:09:23] all right just it's a classification so

[2:09:25] we're still going to be continuing

[2:09:26] discussion and having

[2:09:28] city council

[2:09:30] and

[2:09:45] my understanding is we were just really

[2:09:46] talking about town halls are you still want to continue the

[2:09:49] discussion

[2:09:52] outside the home city hall well

[2:09:54] i wouldn't be in favor of that so i

[2:09:56] don't know i think you were looking for

[2:09:57] whether there was consensus among the

[2:09:59] board members

[2:10:00] around among the council members um

[2:10:03] about whether we would be interested in

[2:10:05] doing

[2:10:06] city council meetings my statement was

[2:10:09] that i i would rather hold our city

[2:10:11] council meetings in our city council

[2:10:14] committee meetings here

[2:10:16] um i would be

[2:10:18] open to having

[2:10:20] topical

[2:10:21] meetings in other neighborhoods and

[2:10:23] other settings so that's just my my

[2:10:26] vote

[2:10:28] all right so it's clear that um so let's

[2:10:31] just

[2:10:32] have a just kind of like just talk this

[2:10:34] through so are you still interested in

[2:10:36] doing council meetings not necessarily

[2:10:38] right now not that one this year but in

[2:10:40] the future is that something you're

[2:10:41] still interested in doing yes in the

[2:10:43] future but if we're able to have one now

[2:10:45] the the the town hall discussion to to

[2:10:48] see how it's perceived and see how it's

[2:10:50] formulated i think it would be more or

[2:10:52] less like a test

[2:10:54] [Music]

[2:11:09] see where we are with it

[2:11:11] mr toro

[2:11:15] are we going around the food yeah okay

[2:11:17] so

[2:11:18] i i like carl's idea um you know town

[2:11:22] hall

[2:11:23] see how that works out and then in the

[2:11:25] future i mean if it works out well this

[2:11:27] time and we want to discuss it again i

[2:11:29] think our meetings belong here in our

[2:11:32] government building and

[2:11:34] you know but maybe we'll get some more

[2:11:36] folks to join us but um i think for now

[2:11:39] if we have a town hall and all of a

[2:11:41] sudden it seems like there's 40 people

[2:11:43] who might want to

[2:11:45] um

[2:11:46] have us

[2:11:47] do a special meeting

[2:11:52] something we can bring back to the table

[2:11:53] and discuss okay there mr pelham did you

[2:11:56] have more input i just think uh our

[2:11:58] meeting should be here

[2:12:01] this is the center of our city

[2:12:02] government it's important for people to

[2:12:04] know

[2:12:05] where this building is

[2:12:06] what it represents it represents

[2:12:08] everybody in this city

[2:12:10] and it's important to try to get people

[2:12:13] here

[2:12:14] whether it's kids and maybe we can have

[2:12:18] a one day a month where we do tours for

[2:12:21] kids or school groups

[2:12:23] if the mayor's available

[2:12:25] he could

[2:12:26] come and see them that would be

[2:12:28] something worthwhile to get kids here

[2:12:31] and younger people

[2:12:33] but i think it's vital

[2:12:35] for having government meetings in our

[2:12:38] cities

[2:12:40] where our city government centered is

[2:12:42] important

[2:12:43] and if we truly want to hear what people

[2:12:46] have to say the town hall concept allows

[2:12:49] them

[2:12:50] to talk

[2:12:52] and for us to be quiet and listen

[2:12:54] and

[2:12:55] i think that

[2:12:56] to me is the

[2:12:58] more appropriate way to go

[2:13:00] well i think both are acceptable and

[2:13:03] we'll just continue to go down this road

[2:13:04] um i i understand what you're saying

[2:13:06] about this being you know in peop being

[2:13:09] the center of government

[2:13:10] however the city is also part of the

[2:13:13] people that we serve and so meeting them

[2:13:15] where they are i think is of equal

[2:13:17] importance so

[2:13:18] we'll put it on again for two weeks and

[2:13:20] just continue these discussions so if

[2:13:22] you can bring back your

[2:13:24] uh

[2:13:31] language in the city code says that

[2:13:34] council meetings are to take place at

[2:13:36] city hall unless otherwise posted right

[2:13:39] with proper notice

[2:13:42] i would

[2:13:43] say that it doesn't really set out

[2:13:44] whether or not you have to do something

[2:13:46] by resolution for that purpose

[2:13:48] i would for the purposes of um you know

[2:13:52] providing notice to the public my

[2:13:54] recommendation would be that the council

[2:13:56] passed a resolution for that purpose

[2:13:57] [Music]

[2:13:59] so if we're going to do a special

[2:14:01] meeting because it does

[2:14:03] give um

[2:14:04] how that's done that special meaning

[2:14:06] that's clearly covered in the code so

[2:14:09] if we're not going to do a special

[2:14:10] meeting however or if we're going to

[2:14:11] call it a town hall

[2:14:14] do we need to what would we need to do

[2:14:16] no you wouldn't have to know because

[2:14:19] i mean

[2:14:20] there's nothing in the code that talks

[2:14:22] about town hall meetings right so

[2:14:24] anything that were to happen

[2:14:26] um you know the

[2:14:28] obviously the council can obviously

[2:14:30] agree to do it um

[2:14:32] if somebody didn't make it

[2:14:35] um there's nothing you know in the code

[2:14:37] that requires a council person to attend

[2:14:39] the town hall

[2:14:41] to be frank

[2:14:43] as opposed to you know

[2:14:44] certain requirements related to

[2:14:46] attending regular meetings and

[2:14:48] you know meeting actual meetings of the

[2:14:50] council the other thing is if you were

[2:14:51] to do town hall you couldn't take any

[2:14:53] formal action obviously uh as

[2:14:56] mr palmer

[2:14:57] is to you know listen to what people

[2:14:59] have to say it's one of those times when

[2:15:00] we would just have to you know you as

[2:15:02] council people have to sit there and

[2:15:03] just listen to what people say because

[2:15:05] you can't take official action

[2:15:07] um

[2:15:08] because it's not a regularly called

[2:15:10] council meeting

[2:15:16] excuse me

[2:15:18] but they could ask us questions yes

[2:15:20] absolutely yeah so it's not like

[2:15:22] you would create the format yeah

[2:15:25] okay but you couldn't obviously pass a

[2:15:28] resolution right right no i just can't

[2:15:29] i'll take a formal option yeah okay

[2:15:33] all right well let's bring this back

[2:15:34] into exciting

[2:15:36] and we'll see definitely discussions and

[2:15:38] it sounds like we're leaning more

[2:15:39] towards town hall but i think at some

[2:15:41] point special meaning outside should not

[2:15:43] be outside the realm of possibility

[2:15:46] any other questions or discussions on

[2:15:48] that

[2:15:49] no okay

[2:15:51] we'll

[2:15:52] be back in two weeks with that thank you

[2:15:54] mr williams

[2:15:55] all right the uh next item on the agenda

[2:15:57] is a um

[2:16:00] ceremonial resolution for jerry amy zion

[2:16:02] church there are going to be 185 years

[2:16:04] ago

[2:16:06] they're the oldest black church in the

[2:16:07] city and their event is on the 29th so

[2:16:10] um i'd like to be able to present them

[2:16:11] with a

[2:16:12] ceremony resolution

[2:16:15] so second all those in favor thank you

[2:16:19] and the uh

[2:16:21] the next item for public is the a

[2:16:23] ceremony resolution for arbor day which

[2:16:25] is the 29th of april this year we do a

[2:16:28] resolution for them every year

[2:16:30] we would invite folks from retreat and

[2:16:33] whoever else is helping i know community

[2:16:35] fathers is involved with um doing some

[2:16:37] of the tree planting nowadays so we just

[2:16:39] invite folks to city hall to accept that

[2:16:41] resolution so moved okay always in favor

[2:16:44] hi

[2:16:46] okay um

[2:16:49] the final four items are for executive

[2:16:51] session to discuss property sales

[2:16:55] so uh at this time on the same motion to

[2:16:57] go in executive session

[2:16:59] second all's in favor all right

[2:17:01] okay

[2:17:02] we're gonna go to the executive session

Schenectady City Council Committee Meeting, April 18, 2022

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