[9:47] is

[9:55] from the tower

[10:06] oh

[11:12] bye

[11:21] agency first items acceptance of the

[11:24] minutes from our june 28 meeting

[11:26] entertain a motion move

[11:29] so the second

[11:30] field

[11:34] all in favor signify by saying aye aye

[11:37] and imposed

[11:39] and under adopted excitement

[11:46] the acceptance of the investment report

[11:49] for 2021.

[11:51] entertain a motion to approve it

[11:54] moved by paulo

[12:09] next item is the acceptance of the

[12:11] procurement report for 2021

[12:14] entertainment motion prime minister

[12:15] paolo mani secondary sentiment stupid

[12:18] aaron

[12:20] all in favor signify by saying i

[12:29] acceptance of the measurement report for

[12:32] 2021

[12:34] entertain a motion to approve mr

[12:36] palomini

[12:50] adopted that item is the acceptance of

[12:53] the annual report for 2021.

[12:58] movement

[12:59] by

[13:00] porterfield

[13:03] all in favor signify by saying aye

[13:06] and he opposed

[13:08] which was adopted in the other business

[13:10] come before the agency

[13:12] move to adjourn palomini second

[13:16] field

[13:17] thank you

[13:18] very

[13:33] cultural art of finance the course item

[13:35] is the

[13:36] 2021 bulletproof

[13:38] vest partnership grant

[13:42] um this is a yearly grant for you to

[13:43] apply for through uh new york state and

[13:46] where the formula we use is um the

[13:48] number of officers that need replacement

[13:50] best every year by their uh expiration

[13:52] date

[13:53] and anticipated new hire stop

[13:56] that's the funding that they give us the

[13:57] 50 match is already

[14:00] within our budget on budget every year

[14:02] during the budget cycle so there's no uh

[14:04] additional funds other than it's already

[14:05] budgeted so

[14:06] any questions i'll answer

[14:08] any questions

[14:10] okay sorry all in favor

[14:13] aye thank you

[14:16] the next item will be adoption of the

[14:18] 2022 2023 action plan and location

[14:27] good evening everyone

[14:29] so this is related to our community

[14:31] development block grant emergency

[14:33] solutions grant and home investment

[14:35] partnerships funding that was receiving

[14:37] annually as you know we just closed the

[14:39] comment period we had the public hearing

[14:41] and we are now

[14:43] proposing for the adoption of the

[14:45] proposed annual action plan

[14:47] um

[14:48] one of the

[14:49] things that we're waiting for is our

[14:51] final allocation from hud

[14:53] so we have not got the formal

[14:55] word on that but we're moving to adopt

[14:58] it and moving forward so that we can

[15:00] you know and then once we receive the

[15:02] final we'll probably come back to just

[15:04] show you what that or at least submit

[15:06] the revised budget based on our final

[15:08] allocation um at that point but for now

[15:10] we are looking to adopt the proposed

[15:12] angle action plan for 2020.

[15:16] any questions come in

[15:19] just i remember last time i told them so

[15:22] you don't have the final allocation but

[15:23] you hear kind of reasonable assumption

[15:26] where they might fall right there's

[15:28] something that it's not going to change

[15:29] like drastically

[15:32] yep

[15:34] go ahead and also you indicate that any

[15:36] changes with

[15:38] the outline

[15:51] second

[16:06] all in favor all right hi thank you

[16:09] the next item is a home home arp needs

[16:12] assessment with cares on the yard

[16:16] so this is also funding that's coming

[16:19] through the american rescue plan act

[16:21] it's being administered by hud

[16:23] and it is it is

[16:25] to basically um come through the home

[16:28] investment partnership we have a

[16:30] consortium with troy and colony where we

[16:32] manage our phone funds this particular

[16:34] funding is for copic response and it's

[16:36] also to address homelessness um

[16:39] and provide the housing needs within the

[16:41] housing consortium

[16:43] we are looking to work with cares in new

[16:45] york they manage a lot of data in the

[16:47] region and they work with schenectady

[16:49] troy colony

[16:50] in the management of that so we are

[16:52] proposing that because we need to do a

[16:54] needs assessment

[16:55] to provide the analysis of homelessness

[16:58] the risks of homelessness

[16:59] and vulnerable populations in all three

[17:02] areas

[17:03] we'd like to enter

[17:04] we'd like authorization for the mayor to

[17:06] enter a contract with cares to conduct

[17:09] that needs assessment and come up with

[17:10] an allocation plan

[17:12] for this this funding so this is

[17:14] separate from the other arc of funding

[17:27] but albany is contracting with cares as

[17:29] well

[17:30] yes so troy is part will be part of this

[17:32] actually so is it additional are they

[17:35] kicking in 45 000 as well or i guess

[17:38] that's not we have an overall allocation

[17:40] that gets split between us troy and

[17:43] colony that's the reason why we get the

[17:44] funding because our city is not of the

[17:47] size to get it on our own

[17:49] um so yes it's going to come out of

[17:52] the pot that goes to all of us for this

[17:55] service

[17:56] okay

[18:01] only forty five thousand dollars as a

[18:03] consortium yes okay yes

[18:07] thanks that should work

[18:09] sorry about that any other comments

[18:12] may

[18:17] the next item is environmental

[18:20] facilities cooperation engineering

[18:22] planning

[18:31] is the acceptance of a

[18:33] 50 000 engineering planning grant in efc

[18:37] this grant will be utilized to evaluate

[18:39] flow along the walk river especially in

[18:41] areas of washington avenue

[18:43] riverside park

[18:45] areas of

[18:46] sccc and also down by the wastewater

[18:49] treatment plant to see the impacts as

[18:51] the river comes up and the abandoned

[18:53] sewer lines that are impacting our

[18:55] collection system which causes you know

[18:57] ini issues with regards to the sewer

[18:59] collection system

[19:01] it's a 20 match on the grant

[19:05] it's going to be

[19:07] 50

[19:08] money fifty thousand dollars and the

[19:11] total of the um

[19:13] the contract with paul harbor was ninety

[19:15] eight thousand dollars

[19:16] and some change

[19:24] so the contract is 98 750 the grant is

[19:28] 50 000.

[19:29] we're seeing a matching of 20 10 percent

[19:31] you have to imagine minimum oh minimum of that correct but because of

[19:35] the expense of this along the hawk river

[19:39] from washington avenue i said including

[19:41] part of the sccc the plane that goes in

[19:43] that area around the washington avenue

[19:45] palm station the old palm station

[19:48] and all the way down to the wastewater

[19:50] treatment plant because of the influx

[19:51] that we have in our collection system

[19:53] and we get a lot of

[19:55] influence from the river we believe when

[19:57] the river comes up to a certain

[19:58] elevation and it floods our system which

[20:00] creates a lot of problems in those areas

[20:03] what's the cold enough soil here is that

[20:05] you have any comments no i drafted this

[20:08] uh

[20:09] since he was out last week

[20:12] um

[20:13] yeah so it's you know it's okay business

[20:15] robot says twenty percent match the

[20:16] project itself because the data is more

[20:18] expensive so even though we're going to

[20:20] get 50 000 and we have to contribute 20

[20:24] um the cost of the project is why it's

[20:26] 98 750 we have to pay that

[20:31] we're also getting you know essentially

[20:42] correct

[20:43] um so under the recommendation it says

[20:45] that the mayor wouldn't execute all the

[20:46] agreements but our what we should not go

[20:49] beyond the 48

[20:51] okay

[20:52] thank you

[20:54] any other comments

[20:56] i have a motion

[20:58] all in favor all right thank you thank

[21:02] you

[21:02] the next item is filling the vacant

[21:04] position with arco

[21:07] allocated fund i think

[21:09] thank you um so um

[21:13] as we know the main city department

[21:15] learning staff and i was also inviting

[21:17] the um archive to fill those vacancies

[21:20] so

[21:21] um i did speak to the mayor of the

[21:22] government and so

[21:24] what i wanted to bring forth is like how

[21:26] we talk about how that happens

[21:28] and i did ask mr ferrari to give me uh

[21:31] give us a list of the vacancy

[21:34] and so you should have it before you as

[21:35] well um

[21:37] it doesn't not a horse does not include

[21:39] police and fire

[21:41] or shortly absorbed

[21:54] for various positions but i just really

[21:56] want to bring this forward so we can

[21:57] start talking about um how we

[22:01] um get our staff back up so that the the

[22:03] folks that are here aren't as overworked it's because i'm here in

[22:08] love so um i know that mary and them i

[22:10] don't know there may be no mr ferrari

[22:12] indicated but um

[22:14] and miss

[22:15] ali was not able to provide the

[22:17] extensive list she's out this week

[22:21] so i want to just bring this forward so

[22:22] we can you know

[22:24] have a conversation about

[22:26] how we can help and facilitate um one

[22:29] place

[22:31] so i don't enough with any comments

[22:35] so i mean um

[22:50] we have not looked at that we're doing

[22:53] recruitment through

[22:54] [Music]

[22:56] a number of

[22:58] sites and

[23:00] some of the areas are

[23:02] specific technical backgrounds that are

[23:04] required for them and

[23:06] it's just the difficulty in the market

[23:08] right now for

[23:09] hiring people in general yeah

[23:14] bye-bye guys everybody send me more work

[23:18] go ahead please so that was my question

[23:20] what is the council can we do to support

[23:22] that

[23:23] individually collectively

[23:25] just get the word out from

[23:28] some where there are

[23:29] higher level technical requirements you

[23:31] know it's just knowing somebody

[23:33] with

[23:34] that particular level of skill or

[23:37] expertise

[23:41] are these uh posting um are these

[23:43] posting

[23:45] are you ready

[24:03] can help and there's some of the it's

[24:04] the technical posting that we do some of

[24:06] the contracts which are as simple as

[24:09] putting in the bulletin board here

[24:10] notifying the unions the other one's

[24:12] reaching out to linkedin

[24:16] i think the other

[24:31] funds has done an ongoing recruitment

[24:33] for

[24:34] some of those entry level positions the

[24:36] bureau of service which you've uh

[24:38] had difficulty

[24:40] getting people and

[24:42] in one of the areas

[24:44] of

[24:55] people down oh yeah

[25:12] updated on the website i wasn't sure if

[25:15] it was

[25:16] it it just wasn't we had all the jobs

[25:18] posted but just recently

[25:21] ran out and then when mary comes back

[25:23] she's going to reinforce

[25:26] them that's how i would pull it but it's

[25:29] not updated at this point in time and

[25:30] that's why i asked the question

[25:32] so i don't know like what our

[25:34] competitive

[25:36] capacity is coming from the city too

[25:38] like you know organize that you know

[25:40] something for jobs

[25:55] those two things you have to run use

[25:57] people in your network

[25:59] something that's really specific to

[26:01] including people but i don't know what

[26:02] the capacity is

[26:20] so we do have a second seven days we do

[26:24] have a

[26:25] table at the green market so would you

[26:27] be open to having applications and all

[26:29] the information there sure yeah

[26:32] so we could do that on the second sunday

[26:37] i don't know if kids aren't exist is a

[26:39] good place because that's coming up too

[26:42] do they have you gonna have kids

[26:45] and juneteenth will be

[26:47] yep yep

[26:56] so it's more or less a comment i think

[26:57] it's really important to take

[26:59] alternative approaches to feelings from

[27:01] these vacancies

[27:03] specifically from my position and my

[27:05] civilian capacity

[27:06] um

[27:07] this definitely attributes to employee

[27:09] satisfaction

[27:10] everyone is seeing good employees who

[27:13] are being asked to do more

[27:14] um being separated by trying to make up

[27:17] for some of these vacancies which i

[27:19] would imagine have been open for a

[27:21] significant period of time but

[27:23] definitely

[27:24] willing to do my part in participation

[27:27] with the other council members that

[27:28] assist

[27:29] foreign

[27:46] thank you

[27:50] and you gotta do some for finance

[27:53] all in favor

[27:56] [Music]

[28:07] yeah thank you uh this is an icon here

[28:09] that we have been doing over the last

[28:11] several years

[28:13] and that's bringing this to the council

[28:15] for us to do it again one more time not

[28:17] sorry not one more time but for this

[28:19] year

[28:20] uh asking for your you know your

[28:22] approval to

[28:24] get this win as a

[28:26] free waiver for all exterior work for up

[28:29] to

[28:30] four units on residential properties

[28:33] we have done it over the last several

[28:35] years it's been a success and i think we

[28:37] just need to continue to do it and to

[28:39] benefit

[28:40] the homeowners in our neighborhood as we

[28:43] try to give back to the community this

[28:45] is one

[28:47] of the many uh way that we can give back

[28:49] to the community by doing this

[28:52] during the period of i'm asking that we

[28:54] do it june july

[28:56] and august about this year

[28:58] and it's going to run for three months

[29:01] one other question i was looking over

[29:02] lane loads um

[29:03] what's it called you had to mention that

[29:05] in an audience is

[29:07] one year

[29:08] department is valid for one year instead

[29:10] of six months sorry i didn't get a

[29:12] chance to call you and i was looking at

[29:14] yeah last last year

[29:16] those permits are valid for one year

[29:20] so we can

[29:22] put this for six months we have to go

[29:31] [Music]

[29:32] so when we

[29:34] for example even when we sell properties

[29:35] right to an investor and six months to

[29:37] rehab it they pulled their permits at

[29:39] perfectly for a year

[29:42] agreement

[29:43] too

[29:46] so that's the only thing i have to say

[30:11] yeah usually we get a report of

[30:14] last year or a year before you know a

[30:16] couple years before today

[30:18] and then see that i do

[30:20] i didn't get a chance to share it but i

[30:22] will share it

[30:24] i can

[30:25] it wasn't much last year it was uh

[30:27] four thousand one hundred for a roofing

[30:30] about two thousand dollars

[30:49] we've got the is

[30:50] we put it on our social media we reach

[30:52] out to our organization and let them

[30:53] know that this program is in place

[30:56] please um take advantage of that that's

[30:58] what we've been doing over the years

[31:01] and we should probably

[31:15] comments

[31:26] [Applause]

[31:28] uh

[31:43] um there was a particular board that was

[31:46] unable to convene because they just

[31:48] could not get a forum

[31:50] so

[31:51] it's really uh felt like it's really

[31:52] time that we need to take a look at the

[31:53] board see what the vacancies are and

[31:55] then

[31:56] move forward with um

[31:58] recommending people um in your packet

[32:00] you will see what is the mayor's

[32:02] appointment what is the council's

[32:03] appointment and then what's the mayor's

[32:05] appointment with the council of pool

[32:07] so

[32:08] you know by that we would either

[32:10] do that ourselves if it's just a

[32:13] council approval like the board of

[32:14] assessment review but the ones that are

[32:16] merit appointments obviously that's up

[32:17] from there and the ones where the mayor

[32:20] the council of approval you take a look

[32:22] at and then you can follow the names and

[32:24] then um you know the mayor will take a

[32:26] look at those and then bring it back to

[32:27] us

[32:31] if you had an opportunity today there

[32:33] was an article in the time changing

[32:35] about the civilian police review board

[32:37] and one of the comments made by the

[32:38] chair was that they were

[32:51] and if you may remember at the rail

[32:53] there was a person that came forward and

[32:54] specifically spoke about the affirmative

[32:56] action committee that hasn't met in

[32:58] several years it's not on here

[33:01] but that's another one and then we

[33:02] definitely need to be able to take a

[33:04] look at that and then and all the other

[33:06] bills this is the entire list of them

[33:11] i will ask mr sullivan in that question

[33:14] there are a lot of boards and

[33:15] commissions that have been created over

[33:16] the years that are not on that list

[33:18] okay

[33:20] so we'll get the entire list to the

[33:21] council

[33:26] decades ago though that wouldn't

[33:28] necessarily be relevant okay well the

[33:30] ones that are relevant

[33:31] then you got it

[33:33] thank you

[33:35] i was wondering when i was in campus

[33:36] today um

[33:39] the ethics the board of ethics is that

[33:41] any rule or a council or both

[33:44] so as i said it doesn't say

[33:47] that

[33:48] that's both

[33:49] ca

[33:53] [Music]

[34:05] okay and i'll make sure that we get the

[34:07] updated list

[34:08] who does what

[34:10] i'm sorry oh thank you

[34:12] um i do notice that

[34:14] probably may not be um

[34:16] up to date like it says like under

[34:18] submitting cprv i know that naacp we

[34:21] didn't recently vote on bringing someone

[34:23] on board there

[34:26] foreign i don't believe there's agencies

[34:28] there people are saying there are

[34:33] filed a vacancies

[34:34] so as far as the members still

[34:38] are serving

[34:40] well there's one hold over that because

[34:42] i asked you know

[34:43] the woman who's chairman she said

[34:45] there's somebody who they didn't make

[34:46] them to us apparently but she's held

[34:48] over she's finished her two terms that

[34:50] she could but she they held her over

[34:52] because they didn't have anybody else

[34:53] um

[34:56] referring to my appointment yes

[34:59] she wanted to continue to serve the

[35:01] council wants to raise infection and

[35:03] she's highly qualified

[35:06] and the rules on the public officer's

[35:08] law are somebody continues to serve

[35:11] until their successor is supposed to

[35:13] qualify

[35:15] she hasn't told me she doesn't want to

[35:16] serve

[35:18] i am happy with her performance

[35:21] but are we going to read everybody

[35:22] legislation

[35:25] the council asked me to drove over i

[35:27] will consider

[35:31] and then i also was going to comment in

[35:32] the same way because it does seem as

[35:34] though they only have the one vacancy so

[35:36] if they're not having a forum that must

[35:38] just be the folks

[35:41] which is

[35:54] well from my

[35:55] brief conversations with the chair it's

[35:57] difficult for them to address those

[36:00] attendance issues if they can't perform

[36:02] so yeah if they can't have a point right

[36:06] so the lack of corn makes it difficult

[36:08] to address some issues that are existing

[36:10] on the board

[36:25] getting a total of participation in a

[36:27] lot of workforce so i think it's

[36:28] important to remind the city that we

[36:31] need a

[36:32] continual influx of just new bodies and

[36:34] new ideas and concepts

[36:37] just because there's been a lot of

[36:38] members who have just been in tact

[36:40] saturated because it's a lot so

[36:42] definitely i think actively looking at

[36:44] some of these vacancies and making

[36:46] valiant attempts to fill them and then

[36:48] both systems that are currently serving

[36:50] to ensure that they are meeting on a

[36:52] consistent basis to do a business that

[36:54] they're intended to be conducting

[37:02] on

[37:04] these vacancies

[37:19] has impacted people's lives creating a

[37:20] lot of different ways

[37:22] you know get some grace and flexibility

[37:24] as well

[37:26] okay any more questions

[37:28] i just wanted to bring up the cprv we

[37:30] did also decide that people had

[37:32] alternates because we need alternatives

[37:34] as well so

[37:36] i'm not sure i know one of these

[37:38] organizations that has an alternative so

[37:40] you know we would want to make sure that

[37:41] we also say to them that please give us

[37:43] a name for

[37:45] the

[37:46] main person and then an alternate

[37:48] needle

[37:56] okay

[38:13] all right

[38:36] just the

[38:37] rosters that you had submitted to the

[38:39] materials that was from january so there

[38:42] have been changes since then

[38:44] so i can circulate a new updated summary

[38:47] that would be great

[38:50] that's it

[38:51] that was going to be i was going to have

[38:52] people get a new updated list so

[38:54] answer that question and then

[38:56] we can move forward

[38:58] you know suggest names to the mayor um

[39:00] or if it's ours to uh to put on these

[39:02] sports or committees so thank you for

[39:04] your consideration in korean press

[39:11] operations

[39:19] i'd like to call to order city

[39:20] development and planning we have six

[39:22] items on the agenda the first item on

[39:24] the agenda award-winning contract four

[39:26] machines

[39:28] [Music]

[39:37] this legislative request is to

[39:40] purchase fire hydrants for the city's

[39:42] water department um our current

[39:44] inventory is getting well we have less

[39:45] than 10 hydrants in stock so this is

[39:48] replenish we do every year we replenish

[39:50] some of our brass goods in this case

[39:52] it's fire hydrants

[39:54] there is a lot of delivery you will

[39:56] probably be hard pressed to even see

[39:58] them hopefully this year

[39:59] um so

[40:00] hopefully we can get the order in

[40:02] and

[40:04] there was one bidder

[40:05] ferguson waterworks in the amount of

[40:09] two 167

[40:09] twelve dollars and it would come out of

[40:11] the operating budget code fx8322 to

[40:14] eleven

[40:18] questions

[40:34] connecting police department firing

[40:35] range

[40:39] thank you um several weeks ago i was

[40:42] here in front of you awarding three

[40:44] contracts regarding the firing range one

[40:46] was for hvac one was for plumbing and

[40:48] one was for electric this is the fourth

[40:50] contract which was not awarded because

[40:52] we did not receive any bids

[40:54] the issue with the original bid was that

[40:56] it was called

[40:57] sbd firing range ventilation and

[40:59] reconstruction we think the ventilation

[41:01] kind of threw people off so we

[41:03] repackaged the bid we put it out just

[41:05] calling it spb reconstruction we

[41:08] received two bids for the general uh the

[41:11] general contract portion of the work uh

[41:13] one from r b one gallow the low bid was

[41:16] gallow 232 000

[41:18] we did call on them and we had some

[41:20] references checked by our architect

[41:23] they are a reputable firm in the area

[41:25] and we're comfortable we'll be forward

[41:27] as they are the last contractor we need

[41:29] to actually move forward with the

[41:30] project as a

[41:33] are there any whole

[41:34] um

[42:05] [Music]

[42:11] because you know summers of the summer's

[42:13] approaching right so um you know in the

[42:16] meantime you know what i'm doing is uh

[42:18] you know trying to reach out to some

[42:20] community partners to help

[42:22] build capacity for this so as we do it

[42:25] we can do it and still maintain that

[42:27] larger community impact um and not try

[42:30] to over stress you know the safety

[42:31] capacity and our school district

[42:33] capacity so what i want to do

[42:36] if it's okay is i want to kind of bring

[42:37] this back um

[42:38] for our next cycle

[42:40] and provide more background information

[42:42] and do a proper support at that point

[42:44] because i know the mayor has been really

[42:46] um advocating for this to happen as well

[42:48] as i have been and i appreciate that

[42:50] because this is really important

[42:55] um

[42:59] [Music]

[43:08] applications and it's just so important

[43:11] because it will pay

[43:14] kids that you know need the resources

[43:16] and it also gives them job skills

[43:19] and workplace skills so i'm completely

[43:23] in favor of this and

[43:52] [Music]

[43:53] having meetings talking to community

[43:55] partners i talk to everyone you know um

[43:58] and they don't have to talk to someone

[43:59] you really need strong support so

[44:01] but

[44:02] when i bring it here i want to make sure

[44:04] that we have our teeth across my eyes

[44:06] that i think that that's important as

[44:08] well so again there's something that we

[44:10] want to make sure that we are able to

[44:12] list some of our partners accomplish

[44:13] some role clarification and things like

[44:15] that i think it's important before we

[44:17] pass it out

[44:21] my understanding we had a proposal for

[44:23] this so

[44:25] isn't all that stuff

[44:26] kind of

[44:27] in line or

[44:29] am i thinking of something different

[44:32] concept is being more engaged with the

[44:34] educational process earlier in the year

[44:37] helping

[44:39] teachers

[44:40] students

[44:43] what my original concept was and

[44:45] discussion with superintendent

[44:48] i would be hard-pressed to fully

[44:49] implement

[44:52] at this point only because the time

[44:54] we've

[44:54] used

[44:55] but as mr farley pointed out there's a

[44:57] broad-based interest in this and how do

[45:00] we bring community partners in again

[45:06] young adults to

[45:08] give the opportunity during the summer

[45:10] to

[45:12] make some of this money and

[45:14] there's still people that are

[45:16] adversely impacted by code ultimately

[45:19] target some of that so that it puts

[45:21] money in these households and the

[45:22] families

[45:24] that otherwise

[45:26] don't have it and

[45:27] leverages

[45:29] educational opportunities within the

[45:31] school district and

[45:33] creates

[45:34] a

[45:35] complementary

[45:40] engagement with what ron gardner is

[45:41] doing

[45:42] to map out some of these career paths so

[45:45] that when kids

[45:47] either are in high school or graduate or

[45:53] 20 years old or so can

[45:55] find a pathway to

[45:57] become successful contributing to

[45:59] members of society

[46:02] so um as i understand it so you're

[46:04] saying that there's already work being

[46:06] done and then it's not like we're

[46:08] waiting

[46:27] in january

[46:28] oh okay

[46:29] uh so

[46:31] to have those conversations and make

[46:32] sure that we have everything

[46:34] together at the time including the mayor

[46:36] being involved in that oh yeah

[46:37] absolutely so yeah you know my intention

[46:41] is to make sure that

[46:44] we're not the right partners in order to

[46:45] make sure that we can have that larger

[46:48] impact that we want to have because time

[46:50] is taken

[46:52] about

[46:52] making sure that we have the capacity to

[46:55] impact as many uh people as we can so

[46:57] that that's really um

[46:59] what's happening now that makes sense

[47:01] yes mr phil

[47:03] um who are the like the community

[47:05] partners that you're reaching out to so

[47:07] right now um uh uh sjta and i spoke

[47:11] about that

[47:12] some time ago and many of you actually i

[47:15] youtube i mean

[47:17] about because they have kind of the

[47:18] infrastructure to um they do this right

[47:21] so it makes

[47:23] really good sense to tap them to say

[47:25] being that we are having a short

[47:28] window of time here

[47:30] you already have infrastructure if you

[47:31] already have the belief and you can't

[47:33] really do this you know

[47:34] having that's a part at the table makes

[47:36] a lot of sense and we'll ensure that we

[47:38] can you know have that larger path are

[47:40] they ready to move yet so yeah

[47:43] they they enjoy strong support from the

[47:46] private knowledge

[47:47] partner project but what i wanted to do

[47:49] is bring um together with the mayor and

[47:51] the superintendent um to kind of go over

[47:53] some of the um fire points and make sure

[47:56] that

[47:57] because two weeks

[47:59] from now it's

[48:00] memorial day so you're like we'll be on

[48:02] the other side

[48:06] [Music]

[48:19] interest of the fundamentals of time

[48:20] about this right

[48:22] so let me just also add that um the

[48:24] application process that they always

[48:25] already do will they'll continue to do

[48:27] so it's i've not seen a year where they

[48:30] lack the kids i've seen a lot of years

[48:32] right i've seen a year where they left

[48:34] for um

[48:36] positions

[48:37] so mister

[48:39] okay

[48:40] doesn't matter go ahead

[48:41] um so i'm a little confused because i

[48:44] thought this was going to be separate

[48:46] from the county program yeah

[48:49] directly through the city right so then

[48:52] any forms that then sent out really

[48:55] have nothing to do with this program or

[48:59] no no no they absolutely do um so

[49:01] partnering partnering with accounting on

[49:03] this um so the county does a summary of

[49:06] a program that every single thing they

[49:08] do this is what they do

[49:10] so what

[49:12] we're trying to do what i'm trying to do

[49:14] is leverage um some of their expertise

[49:17] and their uh

[49:18] you know they have the foundation to do

[49:20] these things right they do this so what

[49:22] i'm saying is celebrating everything in

[49:24] this apartment to where it makes sense

[49:27] you can reach a larger group of kids and

[49:30] a short period of time that we have it

[49:31] just makes sense

[49:32] not for them to um you know

[49:35] completely take this over or

[49:38] just that's what they do

[49:42] yes i just would have some concerns

[49:44] there just based on some previous

[49:46] experience yeah i hear what you're

[49:47] saying but i think we have the capacity

[49:50] as well through our hr office

[49:52] to be hiring and running this program

[49:55] ourselves

[49:56] um

[49:58] i'm just saying that's almost like

[49:59] getting 300 000 to the county way too

[50:05] okay no no in fact i think that kind of

[50:08] up to our point earlier

[50:10] our previous discussion about

[50:12] the uh um

[50:15] volunteer agencies that we have in the

[50:16] city right now are struggling to get

[50:18] people into worlds and jobs right now i

[50:21] think that

[50:22] now it's it's it's extremely important

[50:24] that we look to partner um with the

[50:27] county and the school district so we can

[50:30] leverage um those partnerships to make

[50:32] it more of a meaningful experience for

[50:34] the youth that are involved

[50:36] so i understand that if you guys hear it

[50:38] would have been the school district on

[50:39] this

[50:40] what money would have gone through the

[50:42] school district on this

[50:43] no this will go through the city

[50:47] yeah i was going to ask that question

[50:48] because

[50:49] sometimes the school district gets

[50:51] intelligent uh

[51:03] [Music]

[51:05] the whole concept was to start the

[51:08] beginning of the year

[51:10] and work with teachers to

[51:13] work with students to have them come up

[51:16] with like a business plan to

[51:18] have them pick a problem or a project

[51:21] within the community

[51:22] that they would map out a scenario

[51:26] not on these individuals but

[51:27] collectively

[51:28] to work on and solve

[51:31] during the summer

[51:33] we would then

[51:34] hire them to

[51:36] implement that project

[51:39] and they would have to do a business

[51:40] plan have to do a budget working with

[51:42] the teachers

[51:44] learning process

[51:47] maybe some review on it

[51:49] i am at the decided disadvantage at this

[51:52] point

[51:53] in here to be able to

[51:56] implement that it's not going to have

[51:57] the full impact of what i originally

[51:59] intended

[52:02] i mean i'm putting this on the hr

[52:04] already uh you know

[52:06] have so much work and so many vacancies

[52:08] to fill

[52:09] that in your 75 position on each other

[52:12] isn't that uh

[52:13] hopefully

[52:14] you can hire teachers during the summer

[52:17] it there is a

[52:19] narrow window it is a targeted group

[52:22] and

[52:22] when we have those vacancies the other

[52:24] thing i would ask you

[52:26] is

[52:29] an item that we're not

[52:30] doing garbage just picked up

[52:33] potholes a little bit behind them and

[52:36] hired

[52:37] an outside contractor to supplement that

[52:41] we're still getting the work done we're

[52:43] proud of the effort the city staff is

[52:46] doing

[52:48] our police response

[52:50] is

[52:51] not at the level

[52:53] i would like

[52:56] called backing up that they are priority

[52:58] three calls so it's getting a report

[53:00] it's more of the

[53:01] [Music]

[53:04] support function that the department

[53:05] does

[53:07] that we're not responding to as fast as

[53:09] i would like

[53:10] but

[53:13] priority one priority two calls the

[53:15] closure rate on major cases is still

[53:18] very impressive

[53:20] but this weekend

[53:23] could have made half we're not 100 sure

[53:26] because of the timing

[53:28] and when you pass it you still have to

[53:30] set up a

[53:32] contractual way to get the money

[53:34] and uh it's

[53:35] similar with the other things that the

[53:37] council has entertained to be able to

[53:39] actually implement them and move them

[53:41] forward

[53:45] mr williams

[53:46] so i know as a council although i

[53:49] imagine people are directing it as

[53:50] specific council members but we've been

[53:52] highlighted as being slow to action i

[53:55] think it's important to highlight that

[53:57] if we

[53:58] continue forward with discussions about

[54:00] spending market money as we have an

[54:02] advisory committee that a majority of us

[54:04] elected to

[54:05] support i think it sends a very

[54:09] mixed message about continuing to spend

[54:11] money perhaps their opinions

[54:13] um i would like to highlight and say

[54:15] thank you to councilmember farley for

[54:18] wanting to keep this on the agenda do we

[54:19] need more information because i think if

[54:21] we're going to send a message having all

[54:24] the facts are important

[54:26] and i know that we want to make sure

[54:27] that we're doing the best to support our

[54:29] youth in the city but i also want to

[54:31] make sure we're not doing it at the

[54:32] expense of people that have been taking

[54:34] the time to go through these

[54:36] submit applications to make sure that as

[54:39] a city the community has

[54:41] not only invested interest but has a

[54:43] value voice in us so

[54:46] but to the mayor's point about

[54:48] um something that we have worked on i

[54:50] hope that's not the message that our

[54:52] council is giving the people that are

[54:53] listening absolutely

[54:55] i see

[54:56] all of the

[54:58] completed projects that are going on

[55:00] absent these vacancies i think it's just

[55:02] making sure we're taking account of how

[55:05] much burnout that is being

[55:08] born by the members of the city and

[55:10] whether that's

[55:13] us continuing to function with these

[55:14] vacancies has an implication in our

[55:16] long-term ability to function as a city

[55:19] so i think it's just making sure that

[55:20] we're intentional with

[55:22] filling these vacancies and we're

[55:25] doing it in a manner that continues to

[55:26] add resources to the city stuff and not

[55:29] replacing

[55:33] it's fun so yeah so at night so

[55:36] as i'm kind of taking them on

[55:38] uh people's perspective here it's like i think it's important that two things

[55:42] can be true here and i don't think that

[55:44] we're

[55:44] you know

[55:45] too far apart on what everyone's

[55:49] intention is here is to um you know

[55:52] really impact the lives of people who

[55:55] have been most disproportionately

[55:56] connected and pastored by a clover to

[55:59] your point mayor and i appreciate that

[56:00] so i think that we do that by

[56:04] you know making sure that we um

[56:07] have the capacity to do it the right way

[56:09] um

[56:10] do it very intentionally

[56:12] um and i think that we're still in a

[56:14] position to get it done

[56:20] i don't think that these are too

[56:21] conflicting um

[56:24] what i'm hearing is just you know

[56:26] the urgency and the necessary urgency

[56:34] to make sure that we

[56:36] need these resources to build available

[56:38] to the community and so i just think

[56:40] that's a good distinction

[56:44] so there's

[56:45] two separate things first of all the

[56:47] vacancies are completely separate from

[56:49] us

[56:50] and

[56:52] honestly is a totally different

[56:54] discussion

[56:55] with regards to the kids

[56:57] i mean historically we've had

[57:00] tremendous amount of students that want

[57:03] to work

[57:04] it's a lot different than

[57:06] the vacancies

[57:08] so

[57:09] assuming that holds and there's no

[57:12] reason to think it wouldn't

[57:14] there's no reason

[57:16] the city can't facilitate this and get

[57:19] kids hired and out there and working

[57:23] it's again two very separate discussions

[57:26] i mean the kids want to work they want

[57:27] to get experience they want to get out

[57:29] there doing stuff and quite frankly it's

[57:31] to our benefit because we can get them

[57:33] job skills that maybe they can have a

[57:36] great career in the city and and to me

[57:38] that's

[57:47] [Music]

[57:51] and i would have to say that being

[57:53] understaffed would definitely impact

[57:56] this because you're asking the staff to

[57:58] not want only what they do but also to

[58:00] supervise whatever you are in their

[58:02] program so that is additional i can

[58:04] speak to personal experience i actually

[58:05] run summer programs for seven years so

[58:08] it is and the people who were had to do

[58:11] their job and in addition to supervise

[58:13] young people

[58:15] it was it didn't do this more so there

[58:17] is an additional ask of staff

[58:19] when you add staff to them especially

[58:22] young people who are maybe just learning

[58:24] job skills

[58:26] yes which is i think um i mean again i

[58:29] have a lot of respect for the program at

[58:30] the connie crumps and i've worked with

[58:32] them for years

[58:33] but i do know that one of the issues i

[58:36] think that they have in trying to fill

[58:40] in trying to get the kids higher is what

[58:43] ms porterfield is saying which is you

[58:45] are sort of going to non-profits for

[58:48] example and saying you know would you

[58:49] hire a kid and most of those people are

[58:52] saying no we're too stressed we can't

[58:55] take on another kid and have your

[58:56] supervisor get on top of that what i saw

[59:00] what i thought was going to happen

[59:02] with us having our own program and this

[59:04] is different than what the mayor had

[59:06] initially proposed

[59:08] i would see for example so you get 30

[59:10] kids that hire for the summer and

[59:12] they're out collecting litter every day

[59:14] in our parks

[59:16] or you've got kids that are running

[59:18] programs in our in our parks for other

[59:20] kids um maybe through the boys and girls

[59:22] club or something but that it's really

[59:24] more um

[59:26] it's not that we're saying okay one

[59:28] kid's gonna go here and kid's gonna go

[59:29] there but that grounder we're hiring

[59:32] with a bunch of kids um and so therefore

[59:35] it's not necessarily that you know the

[59:37] kids are going to anthony's office or or

[59:40] you know chris's office or something

[59:42] like that where it does put more stress

[59:45] on our staff

[59:46] but more that they're maybe taking over

[59:48] some projects that that we need to get

[59:52] done in the city that

[59:54] because you're you know i definitely

[59:56] agree that it's too late to be able to

[59:57] do the whole

[59:58] business plan idea

[1:00:00] um but that there are other alternatives

[1:00:02] where it's a city run program in city

[1:00:05] parks or whatever for bulk of kids

[1:00:08] um

[1:00:09] and you know yeah no i i

[1:00:12] don't

[1:00:20] you know what i'm trying to be clear on

[1:00:22] is that

[1:00:23] you know

[1:00:25] leverage like you said like the boys and

[1:00:27] girls stuff because i think you're the

[1:00:29] student working there so you know

[1:00:31] we're partly partnering with the boys

[1:00:32] and girls club

[1:00:34] because they have the uh capacity and

[1:00:37] the skill set to

[1:00:39] facilitate these type of things so it's

[1:00:41] like of course

[1:00:43] a partner with with fgta um

[1:00:47] there's also a component of

[1:00:50] staffing job coaches successfully

[1:00:53] who really support our students so not

[1:00:55] only our students you know getting the

[1:00:57] job skills um

[1:00:59] but they're also you know getting some

[1:01:01] real-time coaching around like how to

[1:01:03] navigate that which gives them a great

[1:01:05] chance of

[1:01:09] goal success finding gainful employment

[1:01:11] later on that job success coach is a

[1:01:13] really big part of that so so with those

[1:01:16] who you know

[1:01:17] keep those things in mind it's like okay

[1:01:20] doing that

[1:01:22] with that level of intentionality is

[1:01:24] what's going to give the kids the

[1:01:25] greatest chance of success instead of

[1:01:26] you know not to take longer

[1:01:30] it's a great thing but if they're in a

[1:01:32] position

[1:01:33] that is more meaningful to them

[1:01:36] supported by a caring adult will have

[1:01:39] some um

[1:01:41] experience in this area

[1:01:43] you know that's gonna give them a

[1:01:45] greater chance of long-term success and

[1:01:47] entering into that field to the mayor's

[1:01:49] point so that's why so there's those key

[1:01:51] things but i think that really needs to

[1:01:52] be um kind of iron health and whatever

[1:01:54] to be successful that's what i'm saying

[1:01:58] so i mean there's obviously a lot of

[1:02:00] people are seeing this from different

[1:02:01] angles so i think that to take the time

[1:02:04] to do that and bring it back and have

[1:02:05] meetings with mayor and

[1:02:08] wherever the other city partners are and

[1:02:10] um i do want to to speak to the uh we

[1:02:13] talk about we want children to have

[1:02:15] opportunities need

[1:02:16] those diseases but to hire a bunch of

[1:02:18] kids to pick up litter is not what i

[1:02:20] envisioned for this or it just it's not a it's not a fun thing i mean

[1:02:26] we do it because we have different you

[1:02:28] know

[1:02:32] want to hire a group of organization

[1:02:34] with the specific purpose of

[1:02:36] your goal your job all

[1:02:38] summer long used to go around and pick

[1:02:39] up litter um you know i've had kids who

[1:02:41] participated in our litter pickups and

[1:02:43] some of them didn't want to be seen by

[1:02:45] their friends picking up live so

[1:02:50] wpa model of the past and our youth

[1:02:54] where we did do those kinds of things

[1:02:56] and it was more of a community you know

[1:02:58] you're getting paid for something that

[1:02:59] you might otherwise do this volunteer i

[1:03:02] definitely i've brought the boys and

[1:03:03] girls of people in

[1:03:06] i would see that as a component of any

[1:03:07] program that we had where they were

[1:03:09] doing the job coaching and teaching

[1:03:11] those workplace skills as well no matter

[1:03:13] what the job was

[1:03:15] um but i mean many cities

[1:03:17] um

[1:03:18] you know will have a youth corps

[1:03:20] um that can go out and do the kinds of

[1:03:22] projects that then are really helpful to

[1:03:24] the city and the

[1:03:26] beautification of the city and it's a

[1:03:28] perfect summer kind of kind of

[1:03:31] opportunity for them

[1:03:33] um and it really is getting at that

[1:03:35] skill so i mean that's how i was

[1:03:36] envisioning this um

[1:03:39] so obviously we have different opinions

[1:03:40] on it but so it may be better to wait

[1:03:42] till next summer and put the thing into

[1:03:45] place yeah

[1:03:46] the

[1:03:47] tournament the landscaping or picking up

[1:03:50] is one component of it but you have to

[1:03:53] either plant

[1:03:54] flowers grass or something so

[1:03:59] people understand the

[1:04:01] sequence of events that build

[1:04:03] sustainability and uh right it's real

[1:04:06] bad

[1:04:07] mr garland i just think it's because

[1:04:09] yeah

[1:04:10] at no point in my conversations with the

[1:04:12] mayor you know

[1:04:15] picking up litter

[1:04:16] you know the focus you know for young

[1:04:18] people you know

[1:04:20] really they're about

[1:04:27] and that could include you know

[1:04:29] some cleanup some planting um

[1:04:32] you know a variety of different things

[1:04:34] but you know the point here was to make

[1:04:36] it something that you are able to buy

[1:04:38] into that's going to give back to the

[1:04:40] community and help them

[1:04:42] find a

[1:04:44] company fully employed hopefully in that area of interest and you do that

[1:04:48] with partnerships and job coaches and

[1:04:51] you know so that's a way longer process

[1:04:53] than anything we're talking about my

[1:04:55] guess is

[1:04:58] no no we couldn't where we're at now we

[1:05:01] couldn't but tapping these people in our

[1:05:04] community who

[1:05:05] have

[1:05:06] some capacity partnering with the right

[1:05:08] people we can do that

[1:05:10] so i see this coming back on june

[1:05:13] 6th is it

[1:05:15] so we'll have to

[1:05:16] hope that anytime any meetings will take

[1:05:18] place any

[1:05:20] detail when we work out something that's

[1:05:21] conceivable that can't happen this

[1:05:23] summer

[1:05:31] okay

[1:05:32] thank you for the

[1:05:33] input

[1:05:42] so

[1:05:42] the next one on the agenda is the

[1:05:44] cannabis presentation by the new york

[1:05:46] state office of politics management all

[1:05:48] of you should have received an email

[1:05:50] from the same holiday

[1:05:54] from the young lady um

[1:05:56] neville nevilee white

[1:05:58] and so they've reached out to the city

[1:06:00] and asked that there be they

[1:06:03] we helped put on a public presentation

[1:06:05] they would do the presentation that we

[1:06:07] helped by marketing and getting the word

[1:06:08] out there um this is something i when

[1:06:11] you talked about this back in this

[1:06:14] february i've mentioned that they're

[1:06:16] getting community conversations those

[1:06:18] community conversations took place

[1:06:20] virtually and now they're doing them in

[1:06:22] person so they've already done one

[1:06:24] albany and are trying to get to

[1:06:26] connectivity and troy and to do that as

[1:06:28] well so they again send to all of us

[1:06:31] there's some of the information in here

[1:06:32] if you um

[1:06:34] if you're looking for defining an email

[1:06:36] and then just like to come to

[1:06:37] connectivity and um do a presentation

[1:06:40] somewhere at a public venue so that the

[1:06:42] community can come out and understand

[1:06:44] all of um

[1:06:46] the opportunities what the mission is

[1:06:48] and what this really means

[1:06:49] and quite frankly this is really

[1:06:52] specifically targeting people who

[1:06:55] were negatively impacted

[1:06:57] by um

[1:06:58] by sailing marijuana and

[1:07:01] gold had gone to jail or family members

[1:07:03] have been impacted that is the

[1:07:04] particular

[1:07:06] focus of this

[1:07:08] so um i was bringing to the council if

[1:07:11] you want to participate collectively and

[1:07:13] helping to um support this they will put

[1:07:17] uh they will find the venue and do all

[1:07:18] the work obviously bring their staff to

[1:07:20] everything and the only ask of

[1:07:23] us would be to help market it and make

[1:07:25] sure that the public

[1:07:26] knows

[1:07:35] uh the decision to

[1:07:37] not opt out definitely

[1:07:39] predated

[1:07:40] my joining the council

[1:07:43] being a member of this council currently

[1:07:45] i think it's important for us to send a

[1:07:47] unified message to the city

[1:07:49] that choosing to remain in

[1:07:52] we are willing to become

[1:07:55] or remain invested partners in this i

[1:07:57] think that only occurs if we

[1:07:59] are informed and collaboratively working

[1:08:02] with the office of cannabis management

[1:08:04] to make sure that whatever programs are

[1:08:06] rolled out to our city actually reflect

[1:08:09] the intent of the program designers

[1:08:12] so i very much appreciate this

[1:08:14] individual reaching out

[1:08:15] i think without having the ability to

[1:08:19] view

[1:08:19] how this message is properly conveyed to

[1:08:22] the community i think it's starting off

[1:08:24] on the right foot and i would happily

[1:08:28] wait to support any fashion

[1:08:30] as a council member and also just a

[1:08:32] resident of the city to make sure that

[1:08:34] when these licensures are

[1:08:37] awarded

[1:08:38] that whatever members recipient of this

[1:08:41] it reflects again

[1:08:46] anyone else

[1:08:48] it's too big

[1:08:49] yeah

[1:08:50] is it possible that we can invite them

[1:08:51] to do a presentation so the consoles

[1:08:53] will be able to get the message out

[1:08:55] through our online

[1:08:57] live feed at the same time we work to

[1:08:59] help them to do a public

[1:09:01] outreach

[1:09:03] um

[1:09:04] so not in scala

[1:09:18] which ends on 31st

[1:09:21] so um that's that's something that

[1:09:24] we're open to we should get that

[1:09:26] information out to our contacts

[1:09:28] that maybe just email itself or

[1:09:29] something part of the email um but so

[1:09:32] the answer is yes i would speak to mr

[1:09:35] slipping to miss white after i got the

[1:09:36] email i just wanted to be clear on what

[1:09:38] they wanted

[1:09:39] which is what you see before you and i'm

[1:09:41] speaking with her again after having

[1:09:43] brought this before the council to say

[1:09:45] um yes the council as

[1:09:59] okay so okay so are you trying to say

[1:10:01] before after the order doesn't matter to

[1:10:03] you it does okay they'll be able to see

[1:10:06] all right

[1:10:07] i'll do it

[1:10:08] okay

[1:10:09] any other input

[1:10:11] are you missed okay i guess what i'm

[1:10:13] looking for is are people supported

[1:10:15] as a council um supporting this to to

[1:10:17] host it or

[1:10:18] would you prefer not knocking under the

[1:10:20] city council

[1:10:25] i actually don't really think

[1:10:27] you know i think it would be it's fine

[1:10:29] to add a presentation

[1:10:31] so in terms of the public forum yeah

[1:10:33] i mean i don't mind having to come to

[1:10:35] one of our meetings

[1:10:36] as well

[1:10:37] so you would support both yes okay

[1:10:40] that's my question

[1:10:43] so

[1:10:45] as a council no matter what how we feel

[1:10:47] about it i mean

[1:10:49] is it

[1:10:50] i'm thinking is it okay for us to

[1:10:53] kind of promote this

[1:10:55] well as a council we showed him to not

[1:10:58] opt out so

[1:10:59] right well no matter how you know so yes

[1:11:02] um so i would say i don't know that i

[1:11:05] would agree with them even to give us a

[1:11:07] presentation i mean depending on how

[1:11:09] long it is during a council meeting

[1:11:11] maybe it's an hour too like

[1:11:13] i don't know what what their

[1:11:15] presentation would be and if there's an

[1:11:17] open comment um

[1:11:19] would it be

[1:11:21] you know where people could actually

[1:11:22] comment during our

[1:11:24] meeting no

[1:11:30] yeah it's just a presentation just a

[1:11:31] presentation

[1:11:33] i'm sorry we do limit those

[1:11:35] presentations

[1:11:37] [Music]

[1:11:53] the link gives you a lot of information

[1:11:55] a lot of background and a lot of it so a

[1:11:56] lot of us there already

[1:11:58] that may

[1:11:59] give you an opportunity to formulate

[1:12:00] questions prior to that but the

[1:12:01] information is definitely in the

[1:12:03] email that was followed by this my

[1:12:05] picture

[1:12:06] mr

[1:12:08] public meetings fine i don't really see

[1:12:10] a need for a council meeting

[1:12:13] it seems to me it would be redundant and

[1:12:15] we could just take their presentation

[1:12:18] and

[1:12:19] either put it on the website put it on

[1:12:44] and the last two items on the agenda are

[1:12:47] for

[1:12:49] executive session for sale of properties

[1:12:51] so uh it's in motion to reset so

[1:12:55] second

[1:12:56] okay

[1:13:16] claims and i would like to uh then say

[1:13:20] that we need to

[1:13:21] get that interesting motion to go into

[1:13:24] executive session

[1:13:29] oh i need a second

[1:13:35] okay thank you and so now i would like

[1:13:37] to also have a recess of claims

[1:13:45] okay

[1:14:24] you

Schenectady City Council Committee Meeting, May 16, 2022

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