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Council committee for Monday October 17
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2022 and the first committee is finance
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Mr midiberian thank you I would like to
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call the finance committee Florida and
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the first item is the purchase of 0.15
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Acres paper Street behind 580 at
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Broadway not being used by the city Mr
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McCarty
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thank you Mr chairman this is a parcel
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that the city had entered into a lease
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agreement with the adjacent property
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owner
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uh subsequent to that they never
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actually exercised that it was an option
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to rent it subsequent to that working
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with metroplexies and offer planning the
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building and are looking to acquire this
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parcel for parking
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uh for the expanded business and because
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this is a paper Street it would actually
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require a an abandonment process and
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have our ability to sell it to the
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property owner and that Mr Gillen has
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detailed most of that out in the
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narrative it was presented to the
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council and I'm available and Mr Wrong
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and Mr Billington who has any specific
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questions
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any question on this
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so does this impact any other businesses
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or anything that's being used for in any
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way currently
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um
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so
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um
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this is a point so the Metroplex has
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brought this for looking at it we have a
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figure of the area so the next step is
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we will call for public hearing that's
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what we're going to do tonight in
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Metroplex in the meantime is going to
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put together an actual survey with the
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meets and balance of the area that was
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described in the figure that will be
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part of the public hearing I would
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believe that maybe the figure wouldn't
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be but this figure would be we would
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need to know what we're exactly we're
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abandoning the size but we have that but
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with the meats and balance then we would
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abandon that officially after the public
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hearing the city would abandon it and
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then it would be on who Mr coldview
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would then sell that parcel to uh since
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multi-stop okay
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um thank you multi-step there has to be
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a call for a public hearing to abandon
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and then separately uh resolution
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authorizing the sale once once it's been
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abandoned there'll be a section block a
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lot identified for this abandoned parcel
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and then a resolution authorizing the
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sale
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I don't know the time table on the
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public hearing because we're obviously
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with the meets and Bounds in the survey
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ready to go for that area that portion
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is going to be you don't have it at that
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I lost no we don't have we don't have it
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yet
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I think this was that this was more of a
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discussion purpose to make sure that
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we're right that's it right so it'll be
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a future for public hearing on this
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because we need to have the information
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for the public so it can be made
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available prior to the hearing for the
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review
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and then even a further step is going to
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be after all that has taken place then
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the abandoned parcel that is transferred
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to the property owner will then be
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merged with the existing property from
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my office through a lot of adjustments
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so there's really quite quite a few
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steps but we can get there okay
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it's just thank you Chris thank you
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mayor thank you council president this
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is a a really great company fwf they're
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on TV all the time I send my mail there
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started in 1899 the company called me up
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criticized me it's actually like 1860
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something it's looking around they have
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uh they're in nine states there are
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three thousand employees and they love
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the building and it's vacant out you can
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buy it create 12 jobs they need a little
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more parking there's parking behind the
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building but they're they want to buy
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this little tiny paper street from the
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city 0.15 Acres that the council had
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agreed to lease previously to another
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company that was looking at the building
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and chose not to go forward it's going
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to bring contractors and activity to the
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city create sales tax it's a great
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matchup with Marcella's next door you go
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buy a new uh dishwasher you go over and
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get your plumbing fixtures right next
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door great company great history they're
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excited you've come to Schenectady so
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we're really trying to get the sense of
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the council tonight that your sport this
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so the company can go forward get the
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copy of a contract and start moving
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toward the sale and that's why it's so
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important for us to be here tonight and
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get your sense get the sense of the
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council that we can go through this
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multi-step process as the mayor and
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Chris and Andrew have outlined we have
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to abandon and then we have to have a
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public hearing and surveyed property
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identify the parcel and then add that
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parcel to the 588 Broadway Bar so the 0.15 acres is next to state-owned
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property at the end of Van geisley the
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state will continue to own that FW Webb
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will give them an easement that'll allow
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people who want to pull in and turn
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around and make guys like to do so so
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there's no issues there and also the
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state needs that access to get onto the
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bridge to do maintenance under the
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bridge so it's really the small parcel
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the stable retained ownership of the
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majority of that cul-de-sac for
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turnarounds and other things so we just
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appreciate everyone kind of laying out
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the welcome mat tonight for FW web to
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take over our vacant building and come
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to Schenectady thank you
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emotions were called for a public
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hearings
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it can't be done yet because we have to
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identify what the public hearing is
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going to be but if we don't have the
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dimensions on for the public to review
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for abandoning it we can't do it just
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yet so I think once unless we know
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exactly when the public hearing is going
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to be but we're going to have to have
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the materials for the public so can we
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put up all time four weeks as well go
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ahead could we move ahead and
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the survey is going to be exact even
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though we know the parameters now which
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the representation that is here would
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not deviate from what the survey is
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going to show
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and so it's not the survey is going to
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be a technical
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right description where this is a
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uh
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to the engineer or somebody that
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Metroplex could put dimensions on that
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so we can if we can put the dimensions
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on it that's not a problem it's the you
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know
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obviously a survey is going to be more
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precise but if we have the dimensions
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and the general overlay of you know the
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area that's going to be abandoned then
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we can move it to a public hearing but
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we're going to need obviously a bit more
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detail than just I think what we have
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before us
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so it can be moved to a public hearing
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as long as we have the information for
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the public
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so I just want to be clear we're going
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to move that have the public hearing
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date pushed out a little bit because as
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I
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was like they're falling that you need
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to make sure that all information is
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placed so we can call for it but I
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suggest that we put it out a little bit
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further as opposed to the normal cycle
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yes so we make sure we have all the
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materials
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that's I mean that works is part of this
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is for the city clerk to be able to
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provide notice uh in advance for the
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public
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president if you called for the public
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here and we have the information you could
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amend that call for the public hearing
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the date
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when it goes out if in fact we don't
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have the information which we suggesting
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we could move it out probably another
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two weeks so in fact we could then have
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everything in place and we do have a
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fifth Monday so
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oh boy yeah so I just wanted to make
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sure we were aware of that so if we're
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talking about getting the detailed
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information and kind of keeping on a
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schedule and we have a fifth Monday
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because typically it wouldn't be this
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public hearing the next committee
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meeting we would say a reminder that we
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have it so that's actually like five
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it's important yeah so we're quite a
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ways out so I think we're gonna have
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plenty of time especially because of how
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important the project is for everyone
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how quick that we can do this quick
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little boundary so I think that's a
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typical schedule yeah I think we're
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gonna have fun because we have that
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extra week affordable okay all right
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thank you all right thank you
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okay
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so we can move this area to call for
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public hearing a little bit
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all right thank you thank you
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the next item is agreement between the
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city and the Schenectady country related
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to digital repairs
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Schenectady County currently provides
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the city with mechanical repair and
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preventive maintenance services for City
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Vehicles not all vehicles but a good
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number of vehicles that we can't do
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in-house
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the agreement currently between the
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county and the city is out of date we've
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been working off a technically inspired
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agreement under using the same terms
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that we've been applying
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the proposed agreement which there's a
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copy attached to the materials requires
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the city to pay
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58.72 cents per hour for work completed
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that does account for not just the uh
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the the waves of those County workers
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but also you know the benefit the pro
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rata share of the of the benefits that
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they make
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um there's also a we would be required
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to pay for the actual part expense so if
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we're you know getting parts installed
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on our vehicles we'd be paying just you
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know exactly what the County's paying
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there's a five percent disposal charge
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on a 1.5 percent Vehicles charge and
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there's a proportionate share of
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overhead expenditures
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um Anthony the mayor Paul Lafond and I
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met with the county on a number of
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occasions to negotiate the terms of this
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from a finance perspective
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um Anthony is comfortable with the terms
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of disagreement
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from an operational standpoint all the
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fun is comfortable with the terms of
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disagreement this agreement
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is technically we were trying to date it
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to back when the the sales tax agreement
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was going to take effect so going back
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to December 1st of 2020 and would run
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through November 30th 2028 which is the
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term of that sales tax agreement and it
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will continue on Beyond 2028
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um unlocks there's a 30 days notice
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that's provided just so that we have
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something in effect through that data
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for some reason we haven't renegotiated
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the terms and gotten approved by council
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at that point as I said this has been
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negotiated in multiple sessions
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it provides a clear concise method
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to be frank a fair way of dividing the
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city's share of the work that the county
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is doing on our behalf so I'm seeking
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committee approval of this request for
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the full council's consideration of a
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resolution approving this agreement
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foreign
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so how are those things covered I mean
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the towing you don't have to explain I I
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get that
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um but so all the other things like
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welding or fabrication those kind of
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services that are excluded under this
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contract how we're getting that work
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done
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um I believe the Welding and Fabrication
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we do in-house
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operator of the general principles about
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that for the last 20 years
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yeah this is not so this portion of the
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contract is not new that is the same
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terms that were in there the last time
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um you know there were certain things as
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they said we negotiated you know to our
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advantage
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um the exclusion like for example the
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golf course contract like we handled
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that through our vendor if we can't do
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it in-house
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um we handle the towing obviously you
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know through
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um private contractors
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um the paint work body work
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we do a lot of that through outside
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um privates
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companies if necessary a lot of that
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would happen through our insurance
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company if we're having to have body
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work done because that would generally
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mean that there was a an accident
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um
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as I mentioned the Welding and
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Fabrication we do in-house
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and then reporting of accidents that's
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something that is required of our staff
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if they get into an accident
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is there any vendor locally that we do
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I've seen police cars at a lot of them
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at one time and um at a particular
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um garage so are there outside vendors
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that are doing workforces as well on
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police cars
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um I don't know exactly who's doing it
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um I know I think in the past we may
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have used Auto Solutions at one point
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um I I wouldn't be the the resource to
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tell you where our police cars are going
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if if in fact there's an accident I
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believe we may still be using Auto
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Solutions in some fashion if there is an
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issue but obviously you know we have to
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follow the purchasing policy and if it's
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the insurance company that comes into
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play we go through the insurance company
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and that has happened
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so if I could just um have a like
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listing of where we get the other work
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done
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you don't have to do it right now you
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can just share the list
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and they can't afford but all those
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Solutions and the place I have a
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ball-time roadway to take care of all
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the lights the sirens and all the other
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stuff but uh and also we have three
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places that do body work but and you
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know mechanical work is done by the
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county court of the city I understand
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that so I'm just asking for work other
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outside of that if we just have the
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listing yeah I heard that you said and I
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won't remember at all I didn't write it
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all down so
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oh that would be helpful
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any other question of this item
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all in favor all right thank you
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the next slide is review of the 2023
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budget public hearing I was on 10 11 and
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two
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I think that's the place full we
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continue to have our budget hearing and
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second sessions tomorrow third session
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and four sessions to follow we'll
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continue to review the budget um if we
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have to do anything on this items
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I believe it's the first time in modern
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history nobody has stood up and
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criticized the mayor's budget and
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the initial public hearings
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we had one speaker and she was in favor
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of some things that were in the budget
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good work yeah
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and there's nothing else before Finance
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I have a motion to adjourn she
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thank you so there are last committee
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meeting we discussed this and all agree
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that we would want to move forward with
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that since that time I reached out to
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our HR department and so they looked
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into it and came up with something that
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our insurance company may be able to
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cover and I just want to keep in mind
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this is without cost and
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um also I asked all council members if
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they had any group and I didn't get
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anything except a response by way of uh
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council member Toro she uh she had
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someone reach out to me so
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um and so I had that one and then
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additionally there's a New York state
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agency again without cost that would be
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um have the ability to do it so at this
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point in time I'm asking for each of
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them to
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um put forward what the training would
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look like what it would include so we
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can make some decisions around that I
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understand that we're in our budget
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season so don't anticipate us um having
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been able to do this in October but I
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would hope by November we'd be able to
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identify and move forward with that and
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cost um what's a factor and we wanted to
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make sure that we get quality even even
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if we don't pay for it so again our
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insurance company
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um is looking at doing it free of cost
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but again we want to see what they're
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offering and also the New York state
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agency the other referral was by a
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private person who would if there would
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be a cost attached to it
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so
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um I will bring back what we have in the
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next committee meeting
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um I did have a conversation with a
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person I used to volunteer with who now
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is the VP for
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diversity equity and inclusion at
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Leadership Bank and she just sent me her
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list
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um of uh referrals so I have
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um I think there's seven or eight
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different groups that she identified
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some of them are out of town but I just
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printed it today so to bring it to you
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tonight
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thank you
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so I'll look into all those things where
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I know some of some of those I'm sorry I
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think you probably are know some of the
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same
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some of those Consultants they've been
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doing it for a while so cough also will
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be affect yourself right no I know yeah
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so I'll bring back to the results of
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that and hopefully we can plan something
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um at least in November okay
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are there any other questions over input
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okay
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if you're asking for this to be back up
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and coming to you next week yes well the
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first week of November yeah
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any other questions okay
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second all in favor aye aye thank you
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I'd like to call the order City
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development and planning we have uh five
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items on the agenda the first one is to
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authorize the city Engineers to
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investigate the feasibility of
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physically establishing the paper Street
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known as Revere Avenue in Swan
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thank you I'm going to ask it everyone
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bear with me on this this is a new uh
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thing for me as in my 10 years we have
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not looked at the feasibility of
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investigating paper Street I would like
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to start just by kind of reading what I
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wrote here so Revere as new is a paper
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streak it's approximately 730 feet long
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60 feet wide located between Rosa Road
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and Sheridan Avenue the city of
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Schenectady is comprised of numerous
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paper streets which are established
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during the city's expansion while the
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majority of the paper streets in the
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city have been formally developed there
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are several that still exist scattered
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throughout the city these paper streets
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are owned by the city similar to visibly
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constructed public roadways of Arts but
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are often undeveloped in wooded areas so
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that's what we have with regard to
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Revere Avenue the owners of several
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properties their team to be exact are
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petitioning the city as per section c of the city's Charter to have this
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area investigated for establishment as
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they only several parcels and that's
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right now they are unusable the owners
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of the parcel are here they have owned
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them as it says in this in their letter
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for several years of paying taxes on
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them the parcels are without Revere
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having to establish landlocked and on
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such an unusable
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and they're looking for the city council
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to authorize myself to investigate the
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feasibility of establishing this roadway
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so that they may look to develop the
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parcels
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um do you mind speaking on your behalf
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for a second I would appreciate it just
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about what we've gone through unless if
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you don't feel comfortable with that
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um
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well you have a a letter that I do right
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here in the council housing as well I
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just wanted to put a a base for the uh
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my name is Brian Carver my wife actually
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owns the property uh the property has
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been owned by the family her father
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started purchasing this property and the
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I believe it was the late 50s early 60s
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and over that period of time we were
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looking at various you know development
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projects and what we found is we applied
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for a change of uh zoning there because
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it was owned a single family which
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didn't make that much sense anyways
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because it's surrounded by apartment
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complexes
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so what we did is we were talking you
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know we had some people that were
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interested in developing the property
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and we started taking a look at it and
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there's there's some conditions there
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that need to be addressed you know that
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uh
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are really you know federal regulations
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and that's why we wanted that we've
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asked the city to investigate the
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feasibility of installing you know
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putting the street in whether it can be
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done or whether it can't be done
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and just as a history I mean when the property was transferred back
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in Germany a while back in around 2010
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yeah we did
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deal with the assessor at the time and
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the problem you know property was
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established at a certain value coming to
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work best building lots and we're
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finding out right now that you know
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there are some things that need to be
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taken care of the system is indeed they
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are actually going to be you know
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classified as building lots and that's
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why we asked the you know the city to
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investigate this and to put the street
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in we do have people that are interested
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in you know putting the apartments in
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there that we were talking about so as this is new as per the city's
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Charter we are you know he has
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petitioned the city he does
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um they I apologize they own
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a majority of Frontage on as per the
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charger uh and it comes to the city
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council the one point I will uh make an
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emphasis is why we have the property
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owner in the the room with us is as it
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comes to feed typically similar to a
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sidewalk assessment the costs of what
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the city incurs are assessed onto the
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property owners via Frontage
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um I think in the letter it talks about
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these unusable parcels and the property
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owners have already spent to date in
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excess of a hundred thousand dollars in
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taxes so I believe what their request
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would be is that the city go forward
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with uh
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absorbing the costs on the idea that
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they have already paid so much money in
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excess of the taxes that they have for
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you know they haven't gotten anything
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they don't have sewer or water or any
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kind of access to the parcels they are
[34:04]
paying their taxes and I think that they
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would like that so that's something that
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the council from a perspective is if we
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want to go forward as part of this and
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assess the owner here I don't know how
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that conversation occurs I don't know if
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that's for the law department or how
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that actually works but I think that is
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um something that they would the
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property owners would want to be aware
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of how that would work and the costs so
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that's why this is more of a kind of a
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discussion we have people here and how
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we would like to go forward with
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something like this
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so what are we talking about in terms of
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costly I don't have a lot of idea right
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now given the size um what we're going
[34:46]
to do I haven't established a project
[34:49]
such as this and we were talking about a
[34:51]
lot of Baseline I don't know if we're
[34:54]
you know possibly a survey to establish
[34:56]
all the limits some flagging out there
[34:58]
which has been previously done a little
[35:00]
bit and then uh you know so we want to
[35:02]
understand there is a great change and
[35:05]
what our options are going forward you
[35:08]
know one of the things that we want to
[35:09]
make sure is just
[35:12]
how possible it is to go forward what
[35:15]
are our options one of the things we
[35:16]
have talked about uh casually as is that
[35:19]
does the road go through the property or
[35:21]
does it have to stop are the lots going
[35:23]
to be most likely merged is a part of
[35:26]
this right away going to be abandoned
[35:27]
like we talked about previously and then
[35:30]
sold for the betterment of the
[35:31]
development there's a lot of there's a
[35:34]
lot that could happen and then at the
[35:36]
end of the day if somehow the
[35:37]
feasibility is that it cannot be
[35:40]
developed then what is that step because
[35:43]
then what we have are numerous private
[35:46]
Parcels is outlined as the tax maps that
[35:48]
are undevelopable and so you know
[35:51]
there's really very limited use of
[35:53]
having a park in that area it's that
[35:54]
kind of conversation then what do we do
[35:56]
and how does the homeowners and their
[35:58]
properties fit into this is you know we
[36:00]
don't have a lot of properties that are
[36:01]
similar where it's numerous properties
[36:03]
that have no access we had situations
[36:06]
like this in Woodlawn by the Woodlawn
[36:09]
preserve and as part of Steve
[36:11]
strickman's kind of last
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we did we Consolidated and tried to take
[36:15]
as many and just expand the park but
[36:17]
this isn't adjacent to really any major
[36:19]
Park so it's a little complex in how we
[36:22]
deal with it I'm not saying we can't do
[36:23]
it but
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uh part of this I need to you know have
[36:26]
some buying from the council
[36:30]
so the what you're asking us for tonight
[36:33]
is just to be able to have you be able
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to move ahead with exploring the
[36:37]
feasibility of how this can happen and
[36:39]
then you'd probably come back to us I
[36:41]
could come back with your costs yeah
[36:42]
like I said this is a new process so if
[36:44]
you are authorizing and you're
[36:46]
comfortable with going down this road uh
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I can talk with you know I have numerous
[36:50]
firms on a retainer about getting some
[36:52]
costs about what it would be to do and
[36:53]
then I can bring those costs back to you
[36:55]
and we can discuss that I just wanted to
[36:58]
make sure that
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um you know we're being transparent with
[37:02]
the costs and the process and I believe
[37:05]
you know and once again you can speak
[37:07]
more to this if you want as a property
[37:08]
owner right I don't believe the idea is
[37:10]
that this would be assessed to them I
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don't know what your investment would be
[37:14]
into the parcels that's kind of what I
[37:16]
invited the property owners this weekend
[37:18]
I never have but typically if this was
[37:21]
you know
[37:22]
1890 we're developing a Street in the
[37:25]
city that they're the owners of that
[37:27]
property all of them were petitioned we
[37:29]
would build the street put in the
[37:30]
utilities sidewalks and just like we
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would put them on their tax rolls and
[37:35]
they would pay an assessment for that
[37:37]
work to be done which is very similar to
[37:39]
the sidewalk program gotcha and I'd also
[37:42]
have to work with Mr Colden in them on
[37:45]
the property owners that are not
[37:48]
necessarily adjacent because also as per
[37:51]
the sidewalk assessment if the majority
[37:54]
do sign up it is assessed to those that
[37:57]
even did not sign on so that could be
[38:00]
the case in this situation so there
[38:03]
could be a cost sharing by people that
[38:04]
don't even know that we're having this
[38:06]
conversation right now
[38:08]
just to clarify the threshold under the
[38:11]
city Charter that Mr Wallen identified
[38:14]
as 25 of the
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owners 25 of the linear
[38:21]
um
[38:22]
ownership footage ownership so here
[38:25]
we're at I did the calculation that you
[38:27]
have there 58
[38:30]
and Mr Wong I don't know if you know
[38:32]
this I don't recall exactly I believe
[38:35]
there's only one other owner I think all
[38:37]
the other Parcels are owned by one other
[38:40]
individual or you know married a couple
[38:42]
something along those lines
[38:44]
I believe you're right yes there's one
[38:46]
other property
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no problem
[38:53]
you know asking Mr Wong to move forward
[38:56]
with you know figuring out more details
[38:58]
and of the feasibility of this and then
[39:00]
coming back to us so I mean we're not committing to whatever the
[39:05]
financial parts of it so we definitely
[39:07]
need to know that
[39:09]
all right well then we're all up to
[39:11]
speed
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like anyone else no no I'm gonna
[39:16]
agreement
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all right so we'll make that motion
[39:19]
second all in favor
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um thank you
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uh the next item on the agenda is the
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final commission appointments
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um
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[Applause]
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for a favorable consideration between
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the council
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any questions
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well seconded all in favor
[39:57]
aye nice to see some young young people
[40:00]
getting involved
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the next item on the agenda is the
[40:08]
appointment
[40:09]
um reappointment for the board of
[40:11]
assessment review uh all of you've got
[40:14]
the letter from the county finance
[40:16]
department saying that Mr Williams who
[40:18]
is currently on the board his
[40:20]
uh his term expired on September 30th
[40:23]
and so this is just something to do a
[40:26]
reappointment to that board
[40:28]
any questions
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I'll Stand a motion so second all's in
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favor
[40:36]
next time on the agenda ceremony we're
[40:38]
actually looking for PD Brothers 55
[40:40]
years of business Mr Helene uh Petey
[40:44]
Brothers has been in business 55 years
[40:46]
and uh it's just a recognition of their
[40:50]
55 years of business as well as Mr
[40:53]
Petey's
[40:54]
philanthropic activities throughout the
[40:57]
community
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foreign
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