Schenectady City Council Committee Meeting, October 17, 2022

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[9:43] Council committee for Monday October 17
[9:47] 2022 and the first committee is finance
[9:51] Mr midiberian thank you I would like to
[9:53] call the finance committee Florida and
[9:55] the first item is the purchase of 0.15
[9:57] Acres paper Street behind 580 at
[9:59] Broadway not being used by the city Mr
[10:02] McCarty
[10:04] thank you Mr chairman this is a parcel
[10:07] that the city had entered into a lease
[10:12] agreement with the adjacent property
[10:14] owner
[10:15] uh subsequent to that they never
[10:18] actually exercised that it was an option
[10:22] to rent it subsequent to that working
[10:25] with metroplexies and offer planning the
[10:27] building and are looking to acquire this
[10:31] parcel for parking
[10:34] uh for the expanded business and because
[10:38] this is a paper Street it would actually
[10:40] require a an abandonment process and
[10:45] have our ability to sell it to the
[10:47] property owner and that Mr Gillen has
[10:50] detailed most of that out in the
[10:52] narrative it was presented to the
[10:54] council and I'm available and Mr Wrong
[10:56] and Mr Billington who has any specific
[10:58] questions
[11:00] any question on this
[11:06] so does this impact any other businesses
[11:09] or anything that's being used for in any
[11:11] way currently
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[11:34] um
[11:38] so
[11:42] um
[11:43] this is a point so the Metroplex has
[11:45] brought this for looking at it we have a
[11:47] figure of the area so the next step is
[11:50] we will call for public hearing that's
[11:51] what we're going to do tonight in
[11:52] Metroplex in the meantime is going to
[11:54] put together an actual survey with the
[11:56] meets and balance of the area that was
[11:57] described in the figure that will be
[11:59] part of the public hearing I would
[12:01] believe that maybe the figure wouldn't
[12:03] be but this figure would be we would
[12:05] need to know what we're exactly we're
[12:06] abandoning the size but we have that but
[12:09] with the meats and balance then we would
[12:10] abandon that officially after the public
[12:13] hearing the city would abandon it and
[12:15] then it would be on who Mr coldview
[12:17] would then sell that parcel to uh since
[12:22] multi-stop okay
[12:24] um thank you multi-step there has to be
[12:26] a call for a public hearing to abandon
[12:27] and then separately uh resolution
[12:30] authorizing the sale once once it's been
[12:33] abandoned there'll be a section block a
[12:35] lot identified for this abandoned parcel
[12:38] and then a resolution authorizing the
[12:40] sale
[12:41] I don't know the time table on the
[12:44] public hearing because we're obviously
[12:46] with the meets and Bounds in the survey
[12:48] ready to go for that area that portion
[12:51] is going to be you don't have it at that
[12:52] I lost no we don't have we don't have it
[12:55] yet
[12:57] I think this was that this was more of a
[13:00] discussion purpose to make sure that
[13:01] we're right that's it right so it'll be
[13:04] a future for public hearing on this
[13:06] because we need to have the information
[13:08] for the public so it can be made
[13:10] available prior to the hearing for the
[13:12] review
[13:14] and then even a further step is going to
[13:16] be after all that has taken place then
[13:19] the abandoned parcel that is transferred
[13:21] to the property owner will then be
[13:23] merged with the existing property from
[13:25] my office through a lot of adjustments
[13:26] so there's really quite quite a few
[13:28] steps but we can get there okay
[13:34] it's just thank you Chris thank you
[13:37] mayor thank you council president this
[13:40] is a a really great company fwf they're
[13:43] on TV all the time I send my mail there
[13:46] started in 1899 the company called me up
[13:49] criticized me it's actually like 1860
[13:51] something it's looking around they have
[13:53] uh they're in nine states there are
[13:55] three thousand employees and they love
[13:57] the building and it's vacant out you can
[14:00] buy it create 12 jobs they need a little
[14:03] more parking there's parking behind the
[14:04] building but they're they want to buy
[14:06] this little tiny paper street from the
[14:08] city 0.15 Acres that the council had
[14:11] agreed to lease previously to another
[14:12] company that was looking at the building
[14:14] and chose not to go forward it's going
[14:17] to bring contractors and activity to the
[14:19] city create sales tax it's a great
[14:22] matchup with Marcella's next door you go
[14:24] buy a new uh dishwasher you go over and
[14:27] get your plumbing fixtures right next
[14:28] door great company great history they're
[14:31] excited you've come to Schenectady so
[14:33] we're really trying to get the sense of
[14:35] the council tonight that your sport this
[14:37] so the company can go forward get the
[14:39] copy of a contract and start moving
[14:41] toward the sale and that's why it's so
[14:43] important for us to be here tonight and
[14:45] get your sense get the sense of the
[14:47] council that we can go through this
[14:48] multi-step process as the mayor and
[14:51] Chris and Andrew have outlined we have
[14:52] to abandon and then we have to have a
[14:55] public hearing and surveyed property
[14:58] identify the parcel and then add that
[15:01] parcel to the 588 Broadway Bar so the 0.15 acres is next to state-owned
[15:07] property at the end of Van geisley the
[15:10] state will continue to own that FW Webb
[15:13] will give them an easement that'll allow
[15:15] people who want to pull in and turn
[15:16] around and make guys like to do so so
[15:19] there's no issues there and also the
[15:21] state needs that access to get onto the
[15:22] bridge to do maintenance under the
[15:25] bridge so it's really the small parcel
[15:27] the stable retained ownership of the
[15:29] majority of that cul-de-sac for
[15:32] turnarounds and other things so we just
[15:34] appreciate everyone kind of laying out
[15:37] the welcome mat tonight for FW web to
[15:39] take over our vacant building and come
[15:41] to Schenectady thank you
[15:45] emotions were called for a public
[15:47] hearings
[15:51] it can't be done yet because we have to
[15:53] identify what the public hearing is
[15:55] going to be but if we don't have the
[15:57] dimensions on for the public to review
[15:59] for abandoning it we can't do it just
[16:01] yet so I think once unless we know
[16:05] exactly when the public hearing is going
[16:06] to be but we're going to have to have
[16:07] the materials for the public so can we
[16:10] put up all time four weeks as well go
[16:12] ahead could we move ahead and
[16:16] the survey is going to be exact even
[16:19] though we know the parameters now which
[16:23] the representation that is here would
[16:25] not deviate from what the survey is
[16:28] going to show
[16:31] and so it's not the survey is going to
[16:34] be a technical
[16:35] right description where this is a
[16:39] uh
[16:41] to the engineer or somebody that
[16:44] Metroplex could put dimensions on that
[16:47] so we can if we can put the dimensions
[16:49] on it that's not a problem it's the you
[16:51] know
[16:52] obviously a survey is going to be more
[16:54] precise but if we have the dimensions
[16:57] and the general overlay of you know the
[17:00] area that's going to be abandoned then
[17:02] we can move it to a public hearing but
[17:04] we're going to need obviously a bit more
[17:06] detail than just I think what we have
[17:08] before us
[17:11] so it can be moved to a public hearing
[17:12] as long as we have the information for
[17:15] the public
[17:16] so I just want to be clear we're going
[17:18] to move that have the public hearing
[17:19] date pushed out a little bit because as
[17:21] was like they're falling that you need
[17:23] to make sure that all information is
[17:25] placed so we can call for it but I
[17:26] suggest that we put it out a little bit
[17:28] further as opposed to the normal cycle
[17:32] yes so we make sure we have all the
[17:34] materials
[17:37] that's I mean that works is part of this
[17:39] is for the city clerk to be able to
[17:40] provide notice uh in advance for the
[17:43] public
[17:46] president if you called for the public
[17:49] here and we have the information you could
[17:53] amend that call for the public hearing
[17:55] the date
[17:57] when it goes out if in fact we don't
[18:00] have the information which we suggesting
[18:01] we could move it out probably another
[18:02] two weeks so in fact we could then have
[18:05] everything in place and we do have a
[18:08] fifth Monday so
[18:11] oh boy yeah so I just wanted to make
[18:13] sure we were aware of that so if we're
[18:15] talking about getting the detailed
[18:16] information and kind of keeping on a
[18:18] schedule and we have a fifth Monday
[18:20] because typically it wouldn't be this
[18:22] public hearing the next committee
[18:25] meeting we would say a reminder that we
[18:26] have it so that's actually like five
[18:28] it's important yeah so we're quite a
[18:30] ways out so I think we're gonna have
[18:31] plenty of time especially because of how
[18:33] important the project is for everyone
[18:35] how quick that we can do this quick
[18:36] little boundary so I think that's a
[18:39] typical schedule yeah I think we're
[18:40] gonna have fun because we have that
[18:41] extra week affordable okay all right
[18:42] thank you all right thank you
[18:44] okay
[18:46] so we can move this area to call for
[18:49] public hearing a little bit
[19:00] all right thank you thank you
[19:05] the next item is agreement between the
[19:07] city and the Schenectady country related
[19:09] to digital repairs
[19:14] Schenectady County currently provides
[19:15] the city with mechanical repair and
[19:18] preventive maintenance services for City
[19:21] Vehicles not all vehicles but a good
[19:25] number of vehicles that we can't do
[19:27] in-house
[19:28] the agreement currently between the
[19:30] county and the city is out of date we've
[19:33] been working off a technically inspired
[19:36] agreement under using the same terms
[19:38] that we've been applying
[19:41] the proposed agreement which there's a
[19:44] copy attached to the materials requires
[19:47] the city to pay
[19:48] 58.72 cents per hour for work completed
[19:51] that does account for not just the uh
[19:56] the the waves of those County workers
[19:58] but also you know the benefit the pro
[20:01] rata share of the of the benefits that
[20:04] they make
[20:06] um there's also a we would be required
[20:09] to pay for the actual part expense so if
[20:12] we're you know getting parts installed
[20:14] on our vehicles we'd be paying just you
[20:16] know exactly what the County's paying
[20:18] there's a five percent disposal charge
[20:20] on a 1.5 percent Vehicles charge and
[20:23] there's a proportionate share of
[20:24] overhead expenditures
[20:26] um Anthony the mayor Paul Lafond and I
[20:30] met with the county on a number of
[20:32] occasions to negotiate the terms of this
[20:35] from a finance perspective
[20:39] um Anthony is comfortable with the terms
[20:42] of disagreement
[20:44] from an operational standpoint all the
[20:47] fun is comfortable with the terms of
[20:48] disagreement this agreement
[20:50] is technically we were trying to date it
[20:53] to back when the the sales tax agreement
[20:57] was going to take effect so going back
[20:59] to December 1st of 2020 and would run
[21:02] through November 30th 2028 which is the
[21:04] term of that sales tax agreement and it
[21:07] will continue on Beyond 2028
[21:10] um unlocks there's a 30 days notice
[21:13] that's provided just so that we have
[21:14] something in effect through that data
[21:17] for some reason we haven't renegotiated
[21:19] the terms and gotten approved by council
[21:21] at that point as I said this has been
[21:24] negotiated in multiple sessions
[21:26] it provides a clear concise method
[21:30] to be frank a fair way of dividing the
[21:34] city's share of the work that the county
[21:37] is doing on our behalf so I'm seeking
[21:41] committee approval of this request for
[21:44] the full council's consideration of a
[21:47] resolution approving this agreement
[21:50] foreign
[22:01] so how are those things covered I mean
[22:04] the towing you don't have to explain I I
[22:06] get that
[22:07] um but so all the other things like
[22:10] welding or fabrication those kind of
[22:11] services that are excluded under this
[22:13] contract how we're getting that work
[22:14] done
[22:15] um I believe the Welding and Fabrication
[22:17] we do in-house
[22:19] operator of the general principles about
[22:22] that for the last 20 years
[22:25] yeah this is not so this portion of the
[22:27] contract is not new that is the same
[22:30] terms that were in there the last time
[22:33] um you know there were certain things as
[22:35] they said we negotiated you know to our
[22:38] advantage
[22:40] um the exclusion like for example the
[22:43] golf course contract like we handled
[22:46] that through our vendor if we can't do
[22:48] it in-house
[22:50] um we handle the towing obviously you
[22:53] know through
[22:55] um private contractors
[22:57] um the paint work body work
[23:00] we do a lot of that through outside
[23:04] um privates
[23:06] companies if necessary a lot of that
[23:10] would happen through our insurance
[23:11] company if we're having to have body
[23:12] work done because that would generally
[23:14] mean that there was a an accident
[23:17] um
[23:20] as I mentioned the Welding and
[23:22] Fabrication we do in-house
[23:24] and then reporting of accidents that's
[23:26] something that is required of our staff
[23:29] if they get into an accident
[23:31] is there any vendor locally that we do
[23:33] I've seen police cars at a lot of them
[23:35] at one time and um at a particular
[23:39] um garage so are there outside vendors
[23:41] that are doing workforces as well on
[23:43] police cars
[23:44] um I don't know exactly who's doing it
[23:47] um I know I think in the past we may
[23:49] have used Auto Solutions at one point
[23:52] um I I wouldn't be the the resource to
[23:54] tell you where our police cars are going
[23:56] if if in fact there's an accident I
[23:59] believe we may still be using Auto
[24:01] Solutions in some fashion if there is an
[24:05] issue but obviously you know we have to
[24:07] follow the purchasing policy and if it's
[24:10] the insurance company that comes into
[24:12] play we go through the insurance company
[24:13] and that has happened
[24:16] so if I could just um have a like
[24:18] listing of where we get the other work
[24:20] done
[24:21] you don't have to do it right now you
[24:23] can just share the list
[24:26] and they can't afford but all those
[24:28] Solutions and the place I have a
[24:31] ball-time roadway to take care of all
[24:32] the lights the sirens and all the other
[24:34] stuff but uh and also we have three
[24:37] places that do body work but and you
[24:39] know mechanical work is done by the
[24:40] county court of the city I understand
[24:43] that so I'm just asking for work other
[24:44] outside of that if we just have the
[24:46] listing yeah I heard that you said and I
[24:48] won't remember at all I didn't write it
[24:49] all down so
[24:50] oh that would be helpful
[24:55] any other question of this item
[24:59] all in favor all right thank you
[25:02] the next slide is review of the 2023
[25:05] budget public hearing I was on 10 11 and
[25:08] two
[25:09] I think that's the place full we
[25:11] continue to have our budget hearing and
[25:13] second sessions tomorrow third session
[25:16] and four sessions to follow we'll
[25:18] continue to review the budget um if we
[25:21] have to do anything on this items
[25:25] [Music]
[25:26] I believe it's the first time in modern
[25:28] history nobody has stood up and
[25:31] criticized the mayor's budget and
[25:33] the initial public hearings
[25:39] we had one speaker and she was in favor
[25:42] of some things that were in the budget
[25:44] good work yeah
[25:47] and there's nothing else before Finance
[25:48] I have a motion to adjourn she
[26:02] thank you so there are last committee
[26:05] meeting we discussed this and all agree
[26:06] that we would want to move forward with
[26:08] that since that time I reached out to
[26:12] our HR department and so they looked
[26:14] into it and came up with something that
[26:17] our insurance company may be able to
[26:18] cover and I just want to keep in mind
[26:20] this is without cost and
[26:23] um also I asked all council members if
[26:26] they had any group and I didn't get
[26:29] anything except a response by way of uh
[26:33] council member Toro she uh she had
[26:36] someone reach out to me so
[26:38] um and so I had that one and then
[26:41] additionally there's a New York state
[26:42] agency again without cost that would be
[26:46] um have the ability to do it so at this
[26:48] point in time I'm asking for each of
[26:50] them to
[26:51] um put forward what the training would
[26:53] look like what it would include so we
[26:55] can make some decisions around that I
[26:57] understand that we're in our budget
[26:58] season so don't anticipate us um having
[27:01] been able to do this in October but I
[27:03] would hope by November we'd be able to
[27:04] identify and move forward with that and
[27:07] cost um what's a factor and we wanted to
[27:10] make sure that we get quality even even
[27:13] if we don't pay for it so again our
[27:14] insurance company
[27:16] um is looking at doing it free of cost
[27:18] but again we want to see what they're
[27:20] offering and also the New York state
[27:21] agency the other referral was by a
[27:25] private person who would if there would
[27:27] be a cost attached to it
[27:30] so
[27:32] um I will bring back what we have in the
[27:36] next committee meeting
[27:39] um I did have a conversation with a
[27:41] person I used to volunteer with who now
[27:43] is the VP for
[27:45] diversity equity and inclusion at
[27:46] Leadership Bank and she just sent me her
[27:48] list
[27:49] um of uh referrals so I have
[27:52] um I think there's seven or eight
[27:54] different groups that she identified
[27:57] some of them are out of town but I just
[28:00] printed it today so to bring it to you
[28:03] tonight
[28:05] thank you
[28:07] so I'll look into all those things where
[28:09] I know some of some of those I'm sorry I
[28:12] think you probably are know some of the
[28:13] same
[28:15] some of those Consultants they've been
[28:17] doing it for a while so cough also will
[28:20] be affect yourself right no I know yeah
[28:22] so I'll bring back to the results of
[28:24] that and hopefully we can plan something
[28:27] um at least in November okay
[28:29] are there any other questions over input
[28:32] okay
[28:34] if you're asking for this to be back up
[28:36] and coming to you next week yes well the
[28:39] first week of November yeah
[28:42] any other questions okay
[28:51] second all in favor aye aye thank you
[28:55] I'd like to call the order City
[28:56] development and planning we have uh five
[28:58] items on the agenda the first one is to
[29:01] authorize the city Engineers to
[29:03] investigate the feasibility of
[29:04] physically establishing the paper Street
[29:06] known as Revere Avenue in Swan
[29:16] thank you I'm going to ask it everyone
[29:19] bear with me on this this is a new uh
[29:21] thing for me as in my 10 years we have
[29:24] not looked at the feasibility of
[29:26] investigating paper Street I would like
[29:28] to start just by kind of reading what I
[29:30] wrote here so Revere as new is a paper
[29:32] streak it's approximately 730 feet long
[29:34] 60 feet wide located between Rosa Road
[29:37] and Sheridan Avenue the city of
[29:39] Schenectady is comprised of numerous
[29:40] paper streets which are established
[29:42] during the city's expansion while the
[29:44] majority of the paper streets in the
[29:45] city have been formally developed there
[29:46] are several that still exist scattered
[29:48] throughout the city these paper streets
[29:51] are owned by the city similar to visibly
[29:52] constructed public roadways of Arts but
[29:55] are often undeveloped in wooded areas so
[29:57] that's what we have with regard to
[29:59] Revere Avenue the owners of several
[30:04] properties their team to be exact are
[30:06] petitioning the city as per section c of the city's Charter to have this
[30:13] area investigated for establishment as
[30:15] they only several parcels and that's
[30:16] right now they are unusable the owners
[30:20] of the parcel are here they have owned
[30:23] them as it says in this in their letter
[30:24] for several years of paying taxes on
[30:27] them the parcels are without Revere
[30:30] having to establish landlocked and on
[30:33] such an unusable
[30:35] and they're looking for the city council
[30:37] to authorize myself to investigate the
[30:41] feasibility of establishing this roadway
[30:43] so that they may look to develop the
[30:45] parcels
[30:46] um do you mind speaking on your behalf
[30:49] for a second I would appreciate it just
[30:50] about what we've gone through unless if
[30:52] you don't feel comfortable with that
[30:54] um
[30:56] well you have a a letter that I do right
[31:00] here in the council housing as well I
[31:01] just wanted to put a a base for the uh
[31:06] my name is Brian Carver my wife actually
[31:09] owns the property uh the property has
[31:12] been owned by the family her father
[31:15] started purchasing this property and the
[31:17] I believe it was the late 50s early 60s
[31:20] and over that period of time we were
[31:24] looking at various you know development
[31:27] projects and what we found is we applied
[31:31] for a change of uh zoning there because
[31:34] it was owned a single family which
[31:36] didn't make that much sense anyways
[31:38] because it's surrounded by apartment
[31:40] complexes
[31:42] so what we did is we were talking you
[31:45] know we had some people that were
[31:46] interested in developing the property
[31:48] and we started taking a look at it and
[31:51] there's there's some conditions there
[31:54] that need to be addressed you know that
[31:56] uh
[31:57] are really you know federal regulations
[32:00] and that's why we wanted that we've
[32:03] asked the city to investigate the
[32:05] feasibility of installing you know
[32:07] putting the street in whether it can be
[32:08] done or whether it can't be done
[32:14] and just as a history I mean when the property was transferred back
[32:20] in Germany a while back in around 2010
[32:24] yeah we did
[32:26] deal with the assessor at the time and
[32:28] the problem you know property was
[32:30] established at a certain value coming to
[32:32] work best building lots and we're
[32:34] finding out right now that you know
[32:36] there are some things that need to be
[32:37] taken care of the system is indeed they
[32:40] are actually going to be you know
[32:42] classified as building lots and that's
[32:44] why we asked the you know the city to
[32:46] investigate this and to put the street
[32:48] in we do have people that are interested
[32:51] in you know putting the apartments in
[32:53] there that we were talking about so as this is new as per the city's
[33:00] Charter we are you know he has
[33:03] petitioned the city he does
[33:05] um they I apologize they own
[33:08] a majority of Frontage on as per the
[33:10] charger uh and it comes to the city
[33:13] council the one point I will uh make an
[33:17] emphasis is why we have the property
[33:18] owner in the the room with us is as it
[33:21] comes to feed typically similar to a
[33:25] sidewalk assessment the costs of what
[33:27] the city incurs are assessed onto the
[33:29] property owners via Frontage
[33:33] um I think in the letter it talks about
[33:35] these unusable parcels and the property
[33:37] owners have already spent to date in
[33:40] excess of a hundred thousand dollars in
[33:42] taxes so I believe what their request
[33:45] would be is that the city go forward
[33:48] with uh
[33:51] absorbing the costs on the idea that
[33:54] they have already paid so much money in
[33:57] excess of the taxes that they have for
[33:59] you know they haven't gotten anything
[34:00] they don't have sewer or water or any
[34:02] kind of access to the parcels they are
[34:04] paying their taxes and I think that they
[34:06] would like that so that's something that
[34:08] the council from a perspective is if we
[34:11] want to go forward as part of this and
[34:13] assess the owner here I don't know how
[34:16] that conversation occurs I don't know if
[34:17] that's for the law department or how
[34:19] that actually works but I think that is
[34:23] um something that they would the
[34:24] property owners would want to be aware
[34:26] of how that would work and the costs so
[34:29] that's why this is more of a kind of a
[34:31] discussion we have people here and how
[34:32] we would like to go forward with
[34:33] something like this
[34:37] so what are we talking about in terms of
[34:40] costly I don't have a lot of idea right
[34:44] now given the size um what we're going
[34:46] to do I haven't established a project
[34:49] such as this and we were talking about a
[34:51] lot of Baseline I don't know if we're
[34:54] you know possibly a survey to establish
[34:56] all the limits some flagging out there
[34:58] which has been previously done a little
[35:00] bit and then uh you know so we want to
[35:02] understand there is a great change and
[35:05] what our options are going forward you
[35:08] know one of the things that we want to
[35:09] make sure is just
[35:12] how possible it is to go forward what
[35:15] are our options one of the things we
[35:16] have talked about uh casually as is that
[35:19] does the road go through the property or
[35:21] does it have to stop are the lots going
[35:23] to be most likely merged is a part of
[35:26] this right away going to be abandoned
[35:27] like we talked about previously and then
[35:30] sold for the betterment of the
[35:31] development there's a lot of there's a
[35:34] lot that could happen and then at the
[35:36] end of the day if somehow the
[35:37] feasibility is that it cannot be
[35:40] developed then what is that step because
[35:43] then what we have are numerous private
[35:46] Parcels is outlined as the tax maps that
[35:48] are undevelopable and so you know
[35:51] there's really very limited use of
[35:53] having a park in that area it's that
[35:54] kind of conversation then what do we do
[35:56] and how does the homeowners and their
[35:58] properties fit into this is you know we
[36:00] don't have a lot of properties that are
[36:01] similar where it's numerous properties
[36:03] that have no access we had situations
[36:06] like this in Woodlawn by the Woodlawn
[36:09] preserve and as part of Steve
[36:11] strickman's kind of last
[36:12] we did we Consolidated and tried to take
[36:15] as many and just expand the park but
[36:17] this isn't adjacent to really any major
[36:19] Park so it's a little complex in how we
[36:22] deal with it I'm not saying we can't do
[36:23] it but
[36:25] uh part of this I need to you know have
[36:26] some buying from the council
[36:30] so the what you're asking us for tonight
[36:33] is just to be able to have you be able
[36:35] to move ahead with exploring the
[36:37] feasibility of how this can happen and
[36:39] then you'd probably come back to us I
[36:41] could come back with your costs yeah
[36:42] like I said this is a new process so if
[36:44] you are authorizing and you're
[36:46] comfortable with going down this road uh
[36:48] I can talk with you know I have numerous
[36:50] firms on a retainer about getting some
[36:52] costs about what it would be to do and
[36:53] then I can bring those costs back to you
[36:55] and we can discuss that I just wanted to
[36:58] make sure that
[37:00] um you know we're being transparent with
[37:02] the costs and the process and I believe
[37:05] you know and once again you can speak
[37:07] more to this if you want as a property
[37:08] owner right I don't believe the idea is
[37:10] that this would be assessed to them I
[37:12] don't know what your investment would be
[37:14] into the parcels that's kind of what I
[37:16] invited the property owners this weekend
[37:18] I never have but typically if this was
[37:21] you know
[37:22] 1890 we're developing a Street in the
[37:25] city that they're the owners of that
[37:27] property all of them were petitioned we
[37:29] would build the street put in the
[37:30] utilities sidewalks and just like we
[37:33] would put them on their tax rolls and
[37:35] they would pay an assessment for that
[37:37] work to be done which is very similar to
[37:39] the sidewalk program gotcha and I'd also
[37:42] have to work with Mr Colden in them on
[37:45] the property owners that are not
[37:48] necessarily adjacent because also as per
[37:51] the sidewalk assessment if the majority
[37:54] do sign up it is assessed to those that
[37:57] even did not sign on so that could be
[38:00] the case in this situation so there
[38:03] could be a cost sharing by people that
[38:04] don't even know that we're having this
[38:06] conversation right now
[38:08] just to clarify the threshold under the
[38:11] city Charter that Mr Wallen identified
[38:14] as 25 of the
[38:17] owners 25 of the linear
[38:21] um
[38:22] ownership footage ownership so here
[38:25] we're at I did the calculation that you
[38:27] have there 58
[38:30] and Mr Wong I don't know if you know
[38:32] this I don't recall exactly I believe
[38:35] there's only one other owner I think all
[38:37] the other Parcels are owned by one other
[38:40] individual or you know married a couple
[38:42] something along those lines
[38:44] I believe you're right yes there's one
[38:46] other property
[38:52] no problem
[38:53] you know asking Mr Wong to move forward
[38:56] with you know figuring out more details
[38:58] and of the feasibility of this and then
[39:00] coming back to us so I mean we're not committing to whatever the
[39:05] financial parts of it so we definitely
[39:07] need to know that
[39:09] all right well then we're all up to
[39:11] speed
[39:13] like anyone else no no I'm gonna
[39:16] agreement
[39:18] all right so we'll make that motion
[39:19] second all in favor
[39:22] um thank you
[39:24] uh the next item on the agenda is the
[39:26] final commission appointments
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[39:38] um
[39:41] [Applause]
[39:45] for a favorable consideration between
[39:47] the council
[39:49] any questions
[39:54] well seconded all in favor
[39:57] aye nice to see some young young people
[40:00] getting involved
[40:03] [Music]
[40:06] the next item on the agenda is the
[40:08] appointment
[40:09] um reappointment for the board of
[40:11] assessment review uh all of you've got
[40:14] the letter from the county finance
[40:16] department saying that Mr Williams who
[40:18] is currently on the board his
[40:20] uh his term expired on September 30th
[40:23] and so this is just something to do a
[40:26] reappointment to that board
[40:28] any questions
[40:31] I'll Stand a motion so second all's in
[40:34] favor
[40:36] next time on the agenda ceremony we're
[40:38] actually looking for PD Brothers 55
[40:40] years of business Mr Helene uh Petey
[40:44] Brothers has been in business 55 years
[40:46] and uh it's just a recognition of their
[40:50] 55 years of business as well as Mr
[40:53] Petey's
[40:54] philanthropic activities throughout the
[40:57] community
[40:58] foreign
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