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[13:54] stood upstairs

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[14:12] yes

[14:55] for that

[14:57] before that game and then I was

[15:07] like I'm not positioned

[15:14] look at that handsome man over there

[15:17] my friends

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[15:46] I'm sorry for that but I can't help you

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[15:51] we gotta go we gotta go

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[16:06] I was like uh that's not gonna happen

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[16:49] to do

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[18:39] yeah I didn't answer the phones

[18:41] that's right so I didn't pick it up but

[18:43] we'll check your voicemail oh really

[18:45] yeah it's not pretty but I did send it I

[18:47] sent it to Eric

[18:48] um Clifford at the mayor's um

[18:54] oh voicemail you got one too today

[19:03] no it's like every other word

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[19:09] he's just he's upsetting

[19:12] City Hall has blocked his number and

[19:15] won't take his calls it's it's

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[19:22] did you get it no okay the creepiest one

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[19:32] we got it

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[19:39] okay

[19:41] good evening everyone I would like to

[19:43] call the finance committee to order and

[19:46] we will go in for a second

[19:48] budget hearing and this evening we're

[19:50] dealing with general service and that's

[19:52] including code straight it's known as

[19:54] Property Management Facility parks and

[19:57] all the ways

[19:58] collection disposal recycling water

[20:01] silver gold and capital budget

[20:05] this evening we can start with salt and

[20:10] get these two young men out for here

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[20:14] so we'll do golf and then we'll go back

[20:17] to our regular

[20:20] thank you

[20:25] so so we don't have to be on

[20:28] um

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[21:23] there it goes

[21:26] now you can start while I'm handing a

[21:28] lot of Tomorrow well let me just start a

[21:29] quick one review

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[21:35] fund this year is increased by 141 167

[21:40] plus 11 increase uh one of the increases

[21:43] though is actually a an increase of

[21:48] offer money into the general fund we're

[21:51] actually going from 151 000 to 164 000

[21:54] so it's part of the reviews of course

[21:57] that it's also wages and of course

[21:59] supplies and I think you guys want to

[22:01] speak about that uh going through here I

[22:03] think

[22:08] so I should note real quick that that

[22:12] going into you know this year

[22:14] you know we're having a record here just

[22:16] because the weather has been so

[22:18] unbelievable

[22:19] of course now we're starting to get a

[22:21] little more we're getting all the rain

[22:22] that we missed all summer the last

[22:24] couple weeks

[22:26] um

[22:27] it's pretty incredible we've exceeded

[22:29] our our Revenue totals in just about

[22:31] every statistical category for the 2022

[22:34] adaptive budget and doing so well that

[22:36] we would actually pretty pretty close to

[22:38] exceeding the 2023 Revenue

[22:41] uh adopted budget lines so

[22:45] um

[22:45] it's been a pretty exciting year

[22:48] we expect that Trend to continue next

[22:50] year I mean obviously it's all weather

[22:53] kind of dependent I mean I can't imagine

[22:56] that we're going to get another summer

[22:57] but the one we had this year where it

[23:00] was just 80 degrees and no rain in sight

[23:03] every single day

[23:04] it was pretty amazing so we do expect to

[23:08] get

[23:10] that change for sure so

[23:13] um

[23:14] we did raise our green speed totals this

[23:18] year

[23:19] in terms of um we raise the fees in both

[23:23] the season pass and the regular daily

[23:25] fees

[23:26] and I don't anticipate that happening

[23:28] anymore I've gotten this next year we

[23:31] are exploring a new carp Fleet as you

[23:34] know we presented that to you when we

[23:36] ordered the bit to the Yamaha

[23:39] or wmb Golf Cars so we're moving forth

[23:42] with doing a lithium

[23:45] electric car Fleet and to offset those

[23:49] expenses because they are going to go up

[23:50] we're going to most likely to raise the

[23:52] car key totals at and of course when

[23:54] that time comes we'll bring that

[23:55] proposal to you as well so we do expect

[23:57] the cart revenues to to jump a little

[23:59] bit as well

[24:01] but if you have questions

[24:04] feel free to just jump right out and ask

[24:08] yeah I guess John would you like to go

[24:10] through the lights or do you just like

[24:12] not perfect

[24:14] we'll just go through um

[24:17] so that we have everybody on the same

[24:19] page let's go to a special recreational

[24:21] facility

[24:23] like one

[24:27] are there any questions

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[24:33] page two

[24:42] go ahead please increase service to

[24:46] fifteen thousand dollars CR and 7180404

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[25:08] we did that last year but we did it as a

[25:12] I came to the council uh with a request

[25:15] out of budget after the budget

[25:17] um this is a arborist that actually

[25:19] comes and performs select tree trimming

[25:21] he supplements Mike so this is not a

[25:25] large scale trimming where we come and

[25:26] take the trees down this is he comes in

[25:28] he prunes all the Deadwood off of some

[25:30] of the Oaks that we have this was Matt

[25:33] can tell you how successful it was this

[25:35] year and so they asked if we could put

[25:38] it in for the following year so I'm

[25:40] sorry yeah that is the increase of 15

[25:42] because that's what the tree trimming

[25:43] costs us this year and he does it on a

[25:46] hourly basis so uh you know we send

[25:49] loose on the course Mike is in support

[25:51] so he really he climbs the trees Cuts

[25:54] everything Mike picks it up and does it

[25:56] and they uh and they it was it's been

[25:58] great so that is the increase for the

[26:01] fees for service lineup

[26:05] any other questions

[26:08] go ahead please anyway I'd also be the

[26:11] same justification for cr7180433

[26:19] okay so the 433 that is our fertilized

[26:22] pesticides and seeds and uh I know Mike

[26:26] isn't here but Paul is here and I'm sure

[26:28] he'll be able to tell you uh seed prices

[26:29] of double fertilizer prices are up

[26:32] almost 33 percent and we are

[26:35] anticipating like you know you're gonna

[26:37] hear from me in a minute about costs

[26:39] going up is that we're trying to really

[26:41] hedge our bets and not have to

[26:43] um but all of our chemicals and Seed

[26:45] costs are are hugely inflated right now

[26:48] hmm

[26:50] so I think that's a good time to just

[26:53] mention

[26:54] um that it's on this page

[26:56] um I'll just kind of jump ahead to

[26:58] something a little quick I handed out

[26:59] some colorful things

[27:01] um the first legal size document color

[27:04] that has to do with revenues I just

[27:06] wanted to show the council uh the

[27:09] revenues for the course over since 2009

[27:12] this is a document we've been putting

[27:14] together a couple of things I just

[27:16] wanted to point out is I did add on here

[27:19] I don't mean it to be boastful for me

[27:20] and Matt but I added our timeline when

[27:23] we all started here myself and Matt and

[27:25] one of the things too I wanted to point

[27:27] out was Anthony can attest to this there

[27:29] is a reason 2009 10 11 12 you'll notice

[27:32] a lot of dashes is that one of my goals

[27:36] after taking over as a course manager

[27:39] was to increase the transparency in our

[27:42] numbers so what ended up happening is

[27:45] you'll see like Golf Course fees there

[27:47] was a lot of everything just piled into

[27:48] golf courses community so it was very

[27:51] hard to tell how the course was doing

[27:52] what was happening so working with

[27:55] Finance we started breaking out and this

[27:58] was when Anthony was actually the deputy

[27:59] Finance commissioner him and I started

[28:01] working on this so that's why you'll

[28:03] kind of see the numbers are smaller and

[28:06] then also there's more numbers is

[28:08] because we started breaking things out

[28:09] for clarity and that's the revenue so

[28:11] you see that like Matt was talking about

[28:14] whether it's a huge factor for us but

[28:16] you'll see that we've shown steady

[28:18] progress all the way up to now and then

[28:20] on the bottom according to our financial

[28:22] data we're at one three seven four

[28:24] million dollars which would be a new

[28:26] record and we're still have well

[28:29] everything five weeks yeah maybe four to

[28:31] five weeks okay so really every day that

[28:35] we take Revenue it is a new record right

[28:38] now that's great they're not going to

[28:39] Europe

[28:40] and uh the other document so this is the revenues the other document I just

[28:46] wanted to share is I find this very

[28:48] useful this color document here

[28:52] Mike cesny our golf tour superintendent

[28:54] who was phenomenal and it is part of the

[28:56] reason that we're just so revered right

[28:58] now

[28:59] um he passed on to me some golf course

[29:01] superintendent magazines and years ago

[29:03] one of the things that was depicted in

[29:06] that magazine is

[29:08] what is the cost to maintain your course

[29:11] all right it's a superintendent magazine

[29:14] so it was how do you stack up the

[29:16] problem is if you were to look at this

[29:19] you have no idea I'm I kind of do you

[29:24] would have no idea what it costs to

[29:25] maintain the course so what I did is I

[29:28] put this breakout together years ago and

[29:30] I do it every year so if you're on the

[29:31] council next year you're going to

[29:32] interview say the same thing what this

[29:34] is is this is a color-coded breakdown of

[29:37] the courses expenses so revenues or

[29:40] revenues they're pretty straightforward

[29:42] and those colors correspond to our

[29:45] revenues here

[29:46] on the second page but where the value

[29:49] really is is when you get into the next

[29:51] pages with these Blues Reds and uh

[29:54] you'll be able to tell that

[29:56] the breakdown of the course is

[29:58] approximately 46 or 650 000 goes towards

[30:04] that's end of the course operations

[30:07] um the carp Fleet Management and power

[30:10] things like that so that's you know what

[30:12] almost you would consider overhead but

[30:14] it's much more than overhead and the

[30:16] superintendent in his cost to actually

[30:18] maintain the course of keep it as

[30:19] beautiful it is that's 525 000 or 37 of

[30:23] reflection and then 16 go to you know

[30:27] what we put into our own coffers or

[30:29] Capital fund or you know important but

[30:31] we put back in the general fund every

[30:33] year this year you know we're looking at

[30:34] 164 000 back in the general fund

[30:38] um so this really I feel helps people

[30:41] understand how the golf course is

[30:43] actually managed where the money's going

[30:45] so that if someone were to ask you know

[30:47] what how much does it cost to keep the

[30:49] course

[30:50] looking like it does it's 525

[30:54] 000 37 of all of our revenues

[30:56] um it's just a good number to have and

[30:58] they said that in that magazine that

[30:59] every Court should know what it costs to

[31:02] maintain that that's great so that's

[31:04] what these are uh coated up against each

[31:06] other now the red one is what I wanted

[31:08] to talk with you about

[31:09] um you know I put this budget together

[31:11] with Matt in June in mainly June

[31:15] um I would like to request to increase

[31:17] fuel oil and grease uh we we decreased

[31:21] it a little bit

[31:22] um from 20 to 10. I'd like to

[31:24] reestablish it at 20 because we are

[31:27] seeing just our our bills are going up

[31:30] and not down and so I'd like to maintain

[31:32] that at 20 and not reduce it to 10. and

[31:35] that is one

[31:38] 7180 470.

[31:42] uh yes 71.84-70

[31:45] . I did speak with Mr Ferrari about this

[31:47] before the meeting

[31:56] so we changed that from 10 to 20. so you

[31:59] want that I would like to put it back

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[32:10] one of the reasons too is that we were

[32:12] expecting that spot

[32:14] to collect your cards okay the cost of

[32:18] fuel is done correct yeah so so even

[32:22] though we're cutting it it's still going

[32:23] to cost us the same at 20 grand foreign

[32:35] term savings though right

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[32:44] any question on that

[32:48] go ahead I think it's appropriate

[32:50] especially for the sake of transparency

[32:52] I know it's all particle funding we as a

[32:54] council a lot of it to put a portion of

[32:57] that to an irrigation system would you

[32:59] mind just expanding on how that affects

[33:01] portion of the budget positivity

[33:06] well certainly gonna the water is going

[33:08] to be certainly allocated much more

[33:09] evenly

[33:10] and

[33:11] it's going to be less labor intensive

[33:13] how that's going to break out in terms

[33:15] of Mike's costs I'm not quite sure yet

[33:18] um

[33:19] he's going to be able to do things on

[33:20] the golf course they normally can't get

[33:22] to because he's

[33:23] so dedicated to doing the irrigation

[33:25] system the way it is now so just to give

[33:27] you an example the current system is a

[33:29] single row manual system

[33:31] so in the height of summer when it's 90

[33:34] degrees and he's out there watering he's

[33:36] not just watering to get water into the

[33:38] ground he's trying to keep his place

[33:39] alive right so they literally have to go

[33:42] out and take a head and I think

[33:45] some of you were here when he did that

[33:47] demonstration but he literally takes the

[33:49] head and puts it into a coupler and puts

[33:50] it in and they go so he can irrigate a

[33:53] hole and a half whereas if the other

[33:55] Golf Course can do their entire facility

[33:57] at once so you can see how time time

[34:00] consuming that can be

[34:02] if the regular system is going he's

[34:04] doing it at night so when he comes in

[34:06] it's already irrigated he doesn't have

[34:07] to do it so now that he can attend to

[34:09] the finer details

[34:12] paying attention to the more of the

[34:13] Landscaping beds making the course a

[34:15] little more pristine in that area so I'm

[34:18] not really sure yet just how the cost

[34:19] breakdown is going to be for water I

[34:21] don't know how much we're going to say

[34:22] the water maybe to marry you might the

[34:24] other tractor that is we're not going to

[34:27] see the full savings until 24 you know

[34:32] we're mapping out a

[34:33] fairly aggressive timeline

[34:36] to put it in 23

[34:39] I'm still skeptical in some of these

[34:41] contracts with supply issues and

[34:44] actually being able to implement it so

[34:47] that we're going to get it in is Matt's

[34:51] outlined who's going to be a shift in

[34:54] resources is there a point where we go

[34:57] back and actually reduce the expenses of

[34:59] the maintenance or do we reallocate some

[35:02] of the manpower to do uh

[35:05] some of the finer work that isn't

[35:07] getting done now

[35:08] and it's just

[35:10] approaching some of the fluid situation

[35:13] where sitting here tonight you can't

[35:15] make uh

[35:16] firm recommendations or decisions

[35:20] the the other thing to point out is

[35:23] you know Matt and I had a conversation

[35:25] just before this meeting about it one of

[35:27] the things that I would say is one of

[35:29] our biggest concerns is actually Mike

[35:32] and the day he decides to retire

[35:34] Mike has been with the forest for I

[35:36] believe almost 20 years yeah well over

[35:39] and he knows the course he knows the

[35:41] manual system and he's prepared to work

[35:44] on it he has a lot of you know intrinsic

[35:46] knowledge because of that

[35:48] um we are trying to find error parents

[35:50] who are trying to find people that you

[35:51] know be able to do something but the

[35:54] system is extremely difficult to work on

[35:56] when we did put out an RFP two years ago

[35:59] as per our purchasing code as we did get

[36:01] replies one of the biggest uh complaints

[36:04] was about the system and about how

[36:06] cumbersome it would be for someone to

[36:08] learn it this new system is being

[36:10] totally automated GPS into a computer

[36:13] program and available on a mobile app it

[36:16] will be available to more people to be

[36:20] able to understand it than the original

[36:22] system so if it does set us up for even

[36:24] more savings and efficiencies in the

[36:28] future because right now if we were to

[36:30] have someone not like come onto our

[36:32] course the learning curve would be

[36:34] very Steep and they they may have they

[36:37] may struggle with it the amount of money

[36:38] time that they put into turning on the

[36:40] battles in the summertime is is a lot so

[36:44] you know I don't know how long it's

[36:45] going to be there but this is hopefully

[36:47] helping us in the future when he is not

[36:49] there with the mapping system because

[36:51] the new system when we have a ribbon

[36:53] cutting here it's going to be impressive

[36:54] it's going to be a really great system

[36:56] the technology nowadays is incredible

[36:58] like you can literally see on your phone

[37:00] and it'll give you every single

[37:02] sprinkler head on your phone so if one's

[37:05] not operation it'll tell you that this

[37:07] isn't performing up to standards and you

[37:10] can you can say I want to put one

[37:12] sprinkler head on the 15th grain and run

[37:14] just slowly that head

[37:16] and you can do it right from your phone

[37:17] it's it's pretty impressive so but we'll be able to water every square inch

[37:21] of that Golf Course evenly

[37:23] and use less water which is the best

[37:25] part thank you

[37:30] yes sorry I'm looking at them

[37:33] um the carts

[37:35] um I think we spoke to the Yamaha guy at

[37:38] the EV Fair

[37:40] um

[37:41] right and um he wasn't really sure about

[37:44] the timing on when we might get the

[37:46] carts even because of some of the supply

[37:48] issues right so I don't know if you have

[37:49] a update

[37:51] um yeah so I mean he's confident that we

[37:54] should be able to have him by the time

[37:55] we get our order in but we currently

[37:58] have the fleet existing in our cart Barn

[38:02] that if they don't they're if they're

[38:04] not into the supplies on that timeline

[38:06] we will still be able to use the ones

[38:08] that we have so it's not like we're

[38:09] going to be left with nothing

[38:12] um but uh he's pretty confident that

[38:14] we'll get the fleet that we want and if

[38:16] we don't it might be pushed back a month

[38:18] or two

[38:19] absolutely but at least we have that

[38:22] fall back

[38:25] so I think it's worth mentioning that

[38:27] this might be a really great opportunity

[38:30] um for you know the youth employment uh

[38:34] program that the mayor performance was

[38:35] talking about this gentleman who's been

[38:37] dedicated basically it's entire life to

[38:39] uh to the golf course if we want to look

[38:41] at something that's sustainable I think

[38:43] that this would be a really good

[38:45] opportunity and it's just something we

[38:46] should think about I'm actually

[38:48] um guardian of Forlani who sits at our

[38:51] Golf Community as a president

[38:53] golf committee he spoke with Jennifer

[38:55] Lawrence from the seed Center yeah we're

[38:58] going to be meeting with her next month

[38:59] to kind of discuss what your describing

[39:03] right now and how we can move forward

[39:05] but we actually do uh the mayor brought

[39:08] this to my attention a couple years ago

[39:09] we actually do a pretty good employment

[39:12] boost through Schenectady High School

[39:13] and I've sent out flyers and

[39:16] applications through the guidance

[39:18] counselors over there and we've actually

[39:20] got some great kids over the years

[39:21] through Schenectady High and so it's

[39:24] been a nice little channel for those

[39:26] that have been interested

[39:27] uh mentioned the scholarship that the

[39:31] one young man yes yeah one of the

[39:34] council meetings coming up pretty soon

[39:35] we were going to present through the PJ

[39:37] of America we're doing a scholarship

[39:39] through uh uh when Ricardo gretley whose

[39:42] father is a teacher at the high school

[39:44] as well

[39:45] um you know he assisted Us in trying to

[39:48] do a life-saving uh individual that had

[39:50] passed away he was one of our tournament

[39:53] executive directors and he had a heart

[39:55] attack on the golf course and

[39:57] unfortunately we didn't get there in

[39:58] time but it was pretty traumatic and for

[40:01] a kid of his age to have to go through

[40:03] that

[40:04] you know I was you know it was tough and

[40:06] you could tell that he was pretty shaken

[40:07] about but the what he did that day went

[40:10] above and beyond and pga's definitely

[40:13] going to recognize him on that so they

[40:14] are offering him a 2500 scholarship

[40:17] uh I think he's going to Suny Albany

[40:20] yeah

[40:22] um great kid and he's been with us for

[40:23] about five years

[40:25] um and so we're gonna do you know a

[40:28] formal presentation you know pretty soon

[40:30] and I'll obviously get that in the

[40:32] agenda Samantha I'll probably be

[40:33] reaching out to you when we can get that

[40:36] on the schedule

[40:39] is the uh the new irrigation system

[40:42] going to have some sort of connection

[40:43] with the soil humidity

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[40:58] yeah that would recommend that if it's

[41:01] costs feasible to do that okay

[41:06] any other questions

[41:12] move to the next page are there any

[41:14] questions employee benefits

[41:17] or you want to set them out

[41:22] so yeah they're pretty much steady old

[41:25] vendors uh of course our social security

[41:27] went up because uh

[41:31] support

[41:33] unemployment insurance is staying steady

[41:36] we're right at that 27 70 year you know

[41:39] at the end of the season for the

[41:40] festival too

[41:41] of dental and medical trying to keep it

[41:45] as close possible

[41:46] in our debt service you know we're uh

[41:49] we're you know uh

[41:50] the past few years we have not borrowed

[41:53] money but using our fund balance to pay

[41:56] for uh portions of the golf course and

[41:59] that's why our debt service is

[42:01] increasing as you see we have no no

[42:04] bands or no bands for 2022 or 23 and we

[42:08] have that at zero as you can see our

[42:10] golf cart the new lease with that

[42:12] company is going to be a little bit

[42:14] higher that's what potentially happening

[42:16] but again that's the reason why we were

[42:19] thinking about increasing the owners

[42:21] uh rates from the golf carts not the

[42:24] golf course

[42:27] again I'm just down here with the

[42:28] transfers you can see uh we're going to

[42:30] go from 151 to 164. transferring money

[42:33] to the general fund

[42:35] and our Capital Adventures is what you

[42:38] know some of the plants that we've

[42:39] planted what moved to Capital

[42:42] foreign

[42:50] [Music]

[43:13] yes you're on there but we

[43:15] yeah

[43:17] well just because

[43:20] I know people that play golf might be

[43:23] interested in doing that

[43:24] I'm sorry

[43:27] because I know people that may want to

[43:30] be interested in sure absolutely thank

[43:33] you you have those names experience just

[43:35] send them to me

[43:36] okay let me know when you have the mini

[43:38] golf committee then um

[43:40] [Laughter]

[43:43] do you bring your own equipment

[43:47] foreign

[43:58] but from what I'm told is that you know

[44:01] we have this really really a great

[44:03] course here as and I think that there's

[44:05] nothing really comparable around me as

[44:07] far as the most important courses are so

[44:09] I was wondering did we consider possibly

[44:11] raising the all of the fees there the kind of or

[44:15] are we kind of like in that place of

[44:17] where we're yeah

[44:19] um earlier in the session I had actually

[44:21] briefly mentioned that this year we

[44:24] actually raised the season passes oh yes

[44:27] and the daily key rates as well so I

[44:29] don't think that we would

[44:31] do that again yeah

[44:33] um keep them steady and then bump up the

[44:36] car fees just because we're going to

[44:37] have not extra expense and need to

[44:39] offset that you know but when you

[44:41] compare our fees to other golf courses

[44:43] we're still yeah yeah that's what I

[44:45] would say that's right that's what I

[44:47] that's one of them in my opinion that's

[44:49] I think

[44:50] a strong value is because what we offer

[44:53] is such a great golf course but we're

[44:55] still you know either at or below all

[44:57] the other competitors so and I think a

[44:59] lot of the players appreciate that and

[45:01] when you actually show that you're doing

[45:03] things to improve your course and then

[45:05] you raise your fees I think players are

[45:07] more apt to say okay I'll still play

[45:09] that but if you just raise your fees

[45:11] just because you say inflation and you

[45:13] don't do anything right

[45:15] so and that's one of the things we've

[45:18] done over the last eight years is

[45:19] something to be proud of we've done a

[45:21] lot of work up there wouldn't you say

[45:22] Anthony actually

[45:24] the other thing is that if we take

[45:27] messages saying okay all the fees very

[45:29] seriously and we actually strategize

[45:32] between myself and Matt and the mayor

[45:34] bringing the golf Committee involved on

[45:36] how we're going to do it and the

[45:37] perceptions of it so last year we

[45:39] decided you know was the conversation of

[45:41] you know this is a good time to do it

[45:43] we're trying to raise money for

[45:45] irrigation we're trying to do these

[45:46] things we haven't done it so we did a

[45:48] significant one and we did get pushback

[45:50] from season pass holders and people

[45:51] about didn't need to but I'll tell you

[45:55] man Matt can attest to the season pass

[45:57] holders did come back because the value

[45:59] is still there yeah I mean they were

[46:02] upset about it but they did not

[46:04] department and I'm not saying that

[46:06] that's wrong or right I'm just saying

[46:07] but the value is still there similarly

[46:10] you know to Matt's point about when we

[46:12] do something on a show we're going to

[46:14] bring a new Fleet and it's going to be a

[46:15] lithium I mean state-of-the-art Fleet of

[46:18] cards you know we're going to bring it

[46:21] up that bit to recoup that similarly

[46:23] I'll just you know talk uh one of the

[46:25] things that we have discussed that's not

[46:27] proposed here but once again it's these

[46:29] little things to try to help our help

[46:30] without doing it is if you're looking at

[46:33] the budget CR 71 8491.

[46:40] [Music]

[46:48] um so credit card fees are increasing um

[46:51] we are seeing them just expose the use

[46:54] of credit cards so one of the things

[46:55] once again has been taught as a group

[46:57] about is on the possibility of next year

[47:00] on either instituting a fee and passing

[47:03] those fees on or we've actually caught

[47:05] Mr Mayor about using another vendor

[47:08] whereas the fees are lower to try to

[47:10] help ourselves lower that expense as you

[47:14] say courses in the area are doing this

[47:15] yes not only of course I think

[47:16] restaurants

[47:18] definitely it's just happening it's

[47:20] become very popular now a lot of these

[47:22] companies are coming in they're allowing

[47:24] the business to apply the up charge so

[47:28] if it's 14.81 cents

[47:31] you know the 81 cents if that's the fee

[47:33] that's occurred to put that back on the

[47:34] customer

[47:35] yeah instead of the credit card fee

[47:38] going into the business

[47:40] a couple companies uh about credit card

[47:42] fees and I were looking at into exactly

[47:45] that to try to lower the fees yeah and

[47:49] to be fair to people we are working with

[47:51] our concessionaire uh June news girl on

[47:55] having her provide the clubhouse with an

[47:58] ATM there is no current ATM it's a big

[48:00] complaint that Matt gets we are working

[48:02] with June and next season she will have

[48:04] an ATM so that you know

[48:07] I think we prefer less cash because it's

[48:10] a little bit more honest to add the

[48:11] credit card but I'm just trying to make

[48:13] the point these are the things that

[48:14] we're also trying to

[48:15] you know keep the health of the the

[48:17] budget alive and keep it going and these

[48:20] little things we think are levels really

[48:22] help

[48:22] because you see you know the the costs

[48:25] are just going up for those fees the

[48:27] credit card fee we were to go back I

[48:29] mean it was five thousand dollars you

[48:31] know

[48:33] that's crazy

[48:35] but I think also too I realized uh at

[48:38] the golf course there's about 90 90

[48:40] percent who's uh it's matters a lot yeah

[48:44] hmm

[48:47] any other questions before we move to

[48:50] Capitol

[48:54] okay

[49:03] two things

[49:05] there's a maintenance equipment and the

[49:09] driving range netting and of course I

[49:13] put into the irrigation system uh with

[49:16] using article funds I just want to make

[49:17] sure so that we you know I always know

[49:19] that's there yeah and if you want to

[49:22] talk about the driving range netting

[49:24] well these points we're not borrowing

[49:26] any money by the way we're going to be

[49:28] using uh fun fun balance of reserves out

[49:31] of the golf course to pay for these

[49:33] again trying to uh not increase the debt

[49:38] people

[49:39] yeah so with the driving range netting

[49:41] it's just more of a deterrent to stop

[49:42] the golf balls from getting into the

[49:44] woods if you ever get up there and you

[49:46] look at the practice and raise uh it's

[49:48] not a very big area from the actual tea

[49:50] to where Route 7 is it's about 230 yards

[49:54] so we

[49:55] 've restricted to what uh equipment

[49:58] players can use so to speak because

[50:00] they'll be banging the golf balls out

[50:01] into route seven and that could be a

[50:05] potential problem but to the right

[50:08] specifically there's a thick

[50:11] Patrick Woods and a lot of the golf

[50:14] balls are hidden there so um

[50:17] I

[50:18] just trying to retrieve those becomes

[50:20] very very labor intensive there's going

[50:22] to be thousands upon thousands of golf

[50:24] balls in there but if we put a net up it

[50:26] would at least block that from happening

[50:29] um and probably save us in the expense

[50:32] of having to get rainfalls every single

[50:33] year and replace that

[50:36] um but yeah I mean the next time you go

[50:38] up there if you actually take a look and

[50:39] see what I mean it's not a very big area

[50:41] it is what it is we're kind of

[50:43] landlocked in that regard in terms of

[50:45] size but

[50:47] um it is a nice range and people like to

[50:49] use it to come in practice for a month

[50:50] before it around but it would definitely

[50:53] help in that regard and it's not really

[50:54] a super high expense what we're looking

[50:56] for right well no I put a round number

[50:58] in there once I was working with cha

[51:00] Sports again because this will have to

[51:01] be good which is complex but to match

[51:04] the point when we had a golf course

[51:07] architect doing uh our investigation for

[51:10] the of the Master's plan we asked him to

[51:12] look at the ring and in

[51:14] 2015 yeah 15 or 16. to be able to hit a

[51:18] driver required netting in excess of

[51:20] five hundred thousand dollars we're

[51:21] talking 130 foot poles because even

[51:25] though even myself or Matt even the

[51:28] mayor can't hit over those Nets you have

[51:30] to be able to prepare it for

[51:32] 300 and

[51:34] a 350 yard hitter and so they can't

[51:37] design something without someone who

[51:38] could hit over it and the cost was

[51:40] excessive so just to put it in Matt has

[51:42] been telling me about this

[51:46] so what we're looking at is 40-foot

[51:49] utility holes yeah um you know not not

[51:52] big metal poles like you see a stadium

[51:53] or Eagle Crest but you know utility

[51:56] poles driven into the ground for The

[51:58] netting system on them so that we're

[52:00] catching 80 of the Wayward balls into

[52:03] the woods and then we'll be able to

[52:05] arrange pick them a lot easier because

[52:07] when you go up there and look those

[52:08] woods are like

[52:10] and and they serve you know someone may

[52:13] say what about taking them they serve as

[52:14] protection for both of the 11th over

[52:17] green and then we have the 12T so we

[52:20] really want to leave the woods and we

[52:22] just want to stop if he's when we go to

[52:24] the range balls like

[52:27] pretty good clip yeah you're not cheap

[52:29] anymore either no no and you can't get

[52:31] them that's another thing right it's a

[52:34] bit more expensive and they're hard to

[52:35] get and then equipment wise I'm talking

[52:39] with Mike we're looking at the big thing

[52:40] is uh you know possibly getting because

[52:42] he was he's trying Mike like he's trying

[52:45] to set us up for Success after him and

[52:46] these conversations are actually taking

[52:48] place is after he has gone what we may

[52:51] need because we own equipment and right

[52:53] now we are actually as part of our lease

[52:56] agreement we pay Mike to come in and do

[52:58] certain services and use his equipment

[53:00] so we're going to try he's recommending

[53:03] that we get a couple pieces of a deep

[53:05] time aerator uh a new track with a fully

[53:08] aerator and so and also a greens roller

[53:11] our greens roller was bought 10 years

[53:13] ago we use it all the time and it's

[53:15] fantastic it's not a big machine but our

[53:17] greens have never been better never yep

[53:20] so some of the equipment we're looking

[53:21] to purchase and that's likely we can get

[53:24] it by 2024

[53:28] thank you

[53:29] any questions

[53:35] thank you guys thank you thank you very

[53:38] much

[53:39] thank you the presentation thank you

[53:41] have a great evening yes good luck with

[53:44] having the rest of the budget thank you

[53:49] see you later

[53:55] not looking good

[54:01] we'll both do chords about page 41.

[54:06] you get

[54:07] yeah

[54:08] he wants us to stay in a solution that's

[54:11] fine

[54:12] why does anybody want to leave

[54:15] snacks we have no snacks

[54:22] age 41.

[54:24] so a total Court enforcement is up 121

[54:28] 146 about 920 250

[54:32] that increase that's mostly from

[54:34] salaries I just want from one of the

[54:37] things that we want to take with to say

[54:40] right off the bat is the new employees

[54:42] for 2023 uh Mr one wanted to set up as a

[54:48] top of their grades at the grade six so

[54:52] they all make the same money which would

[54:53] be about 58 uh

[54:57] 58.

[54:59] 50 yeah 58040 all that step six is that

[55:03] way uh they have a better competition

[55:07] with the other municipalities other than

[55:09] that actually leaving The Villages pay

[55:11] more

[55:14] [Music]

[55:33] uh actually uh we have some exciting

[55:37] things we've actually been able to hire

[55:39] some some new employees uh to the

[55:42] building department we we put five

[55:45] employees on uh this year we have a six

[55:49] one coming next week hopefully

[55:52] um yeah

[55:53] um and so that would be five officers

[55:56] and one administrative staff

[56:00] so uh we're getting the help we need

[56:02] we've seen the turn you know since 2020

[56:05] I've had jobs posted uh you know that's

[56:09] 2019. really uh you know and then Kobe

[56:12] came and then there was a uh a big drop

[56:15] off when we were getting anybody to

[56:17] apply

[56:19] um and it seems now we are getting some

[56:21] applications in now and uh everybody's

[56:25] local so let's say it could have been

[56:27] playing we we also have a new uh

[56:29] electrical inspector for the city

[56:32] um uh Bobby Curtis a great employee

[56:37] and uh our former employee has resigned

[56:42] so we were able to fill that position

[56:44] quite quickly

[56:47] um code enforcement is going in a good

[56:49] direction uh we're currently working

[56:51] with uh municity to update our Software

[56:56] System and our inspection system

[56:59] and really had very detailed and uh

[57:03] inspections uh above what other code

[57:06] enforcement departments are doing out

[57:08] there currently our inspections be far

[57:11] superior to

[57:13] most southern departments if not all

[57:25] [Music]

[57:29] so far this year

[57:31] off of our rental inspections that

[57:36] we we have brought that up uh you know

[57:38] one what I got here is you know a

[57:41] million thousands and uh you know to

[57:44] bring the program around and get we're

[57:46] getting a lot of uh voluntary compliance

[57:49] for people to come in on the change of

[57:51] occupancy which was which was a hard

[57:54] turn to to get these people to come in

[57:57] but for now we're really turn the corner

[58:00] and have a great success

[58:03] uh since you're talking about in terms

[58:04] of foreign

[58:15] [Music]

[58:19] we've now got online permitting uh

[58:22] through the city's website we're looking

[58:24] to update that

[58:26] um and get on board with a software

[58:30] system that's called City squared it's

[58:32] part it's part of Unicity so the

[58:39] perfect consumer can get their permits

[58:42] online and eventually be able to pay for

[58:44] it without coming into City Hall so

[58:46] that's that's the hope there we are

[58:49] looking into

[58:52] working on remote inspections and this

[58:55] is something that uh

[58:57] is you know since 2020 the state has

[59:01] looked at you know how remote

[59:03] inspections can be done like code

[59:05] enforcement and so this is some things

[59:07] that we're looking for in the future of

[59:09] you know what that inspection may look

[59:11] like and it's uh that's really at the

[59:14] beginning stages we haven't entertained

[59:18] any inspections at all about that at

[59:20] this point but uh going forward it's

[59:23] going to be

[59:25] part of our program could you tell me

[59:27] the name again of that city city Square

[59:30] thank you

[59:37] talk about Staffing are you a fully

[59:39] staffed at this point no

[59:41] um we've got eight Code Enforcement

[59:44] Officers we've now filled the supervisor

[59:46] position I came to you guys earlier this

[59:48] year and asked for an amendment a budget

[59:52] amendment for the full-time assistant

[59:55] building inspector that that's now

[59:57] filled

[59:58] so I would need two code enforcement

[1:00:03] officers

[1:00:05] non-marfi and then we've got two that

[1:00:08] are to fill for our so there's four

[1:00:11] vacancies in code enforcement officers

[1:00:14] and then one administrative staff of

[1:00:17] Claire fillet position that's currently

[1:00:19] available

[1:00:21] hmm

[1:00:25] yeah

[1:00:27] excuse me and there's one there's a

[1:00:33] principal code enforcement specialist is

[1:00:37] currently open also excuse me

[1:00:43] um

[1:00:44] that was his position you know

[1:00:47] so that that explains why the salary was

[1:00:50] lowered to history at a level yes

[1:00:53] yeah based on the steps that we've

[1:00:56] dropped it back down to start raining

[1:00:59] again yeah

[1:01:01] on a question on the building inspector

[1:01:04] the salary is dropping down to 83 500.

[1:01:12] yeah

[1:01:13] the job person is Randy housing so what

[1:01:17] is the difference there well I mean I

[1:01:20] wasn't aware that it was at 90 000 and I

[1:01:23] believe we were supposed to be at 83.5

[1:01:26] Canada for us please

[1:01:29] do you ever make a knife

[1:01:37] is going to be

[1:01:41] in moving it as a yes as a

[1:01:45] commission Deputy Commission on the gas

[1:01:48] and uh there's the new person

[1:01:52] naively it will be naive we'll be

[1:01:54] starting as a

[1:01:58] building a building inspector yeah so um

[1:02:02] the thought of bringing it back to

[1:02:03] really the original spot where I took on

[1:02:06] five years ago

[1:02:09] um also now that there's an assistant

[1:02:11] building inspector that's full-time some

[1:02:13] of these duties can be

[1:02:16] supervisors

[1:02:24] [Music]

[1:02:32] so then that will lead me to the next

[1:02:34] page party to the other part-time staff

[1:02:36] where you have 79 900 yeah so I've left

[1:02:41] that in there as I've assisted

[1:02:43] um a part-time assistant and inspector

[1:02:47] um if we get to a level and we find some

[1:02:50] talented diesel vectors actually train

[1:02:52] our code enforcement officers and bring

[1:02:54] in I'd like to have that money available

[1:02:56] to

[1:02:57] [Music]

[1:02:58] um

[1:02:58] for training purpose this year

[1:03:00] absolutely

[1:03:03] [Music]

[1:03:06] I did a uh actually this week I had a

[1:03:10] really talented uh code enforcement

[1:03:12] officer Works in two different

[1:03:13] municipalities

[1:03:16] um Rensselaer and uh for red soy Bill

[1:03:18] and

[1:03:20] um selcook I believe you worked at um

[1:03:23] you know that's really you know and he

[1:03:26] just really didn't end up being a good

[1:03:27] fit for maybe a trainer here in

[1:03:31] you know in this program that I have

[1:03:33] going on but uh that's the talent that

[1:03:35] I'd really like to bring in somebody

[1:03:36] that has uh you know 20 years of

[1:03:39] experience uh maybe you haven't retired

[1:03:41] from the state and you know really has a

[1:03:44] passion for code enforcement

[1:03:47] my my next question is um beats for

[1:03:50] service you're dropping it to 25 000.

[1:03:52] yeah so um uh I I it was set at 65 000

[1:03:58] last year or this current budget um I've

[1:04:01] never spent that money I'm always

[1:04:03] fiscally responsible I'd say the money

[1:04:06] I've never gone higher than 25

[1:04:10] 000 in one year since I've been here

[1:04:13] primarily I use that funds for

[1:04:16] emergencies that happen around the city

[1:04:19] to get

[1:04:20] engineering firms and services on board

[1:04:23] to to be advised and so

[1:04:29] um usually Chase it which is turned over

[1:04:32] to LaBella this year if they've done a

[1:04:35] complete change and I've had great

[1:04:37] success with them and

[1:04:39] um

[1:04:40] kind of run the contract around

[1:04:45] go ahead so I'm looking down here it has

[1:04:48] in-service training and could you tell

[1:04:51] me how that's different from the

[1:04:53] training that you were just talking

[1:04:54] about

[1:04:55] a moment ago around

[1:04:58] to keep that

[1:05:00] budget line open in order to uh train

[1:05:03] the guys that you have now yep so any

[1:05:05] service training we're reducing that um

[1:05:09] currently

[1:05:10] um

[1:05:12] we have as I said

[1:05:14] some of the older staff that was here we

[1:05:17] have five new staff with that training

[1:05:20] that we're going to have is a state mandated training that costs no money for the municipality the first

[1:05:28] year is really going to be free

[1:05:30] ongoing though

[1:05:32] they will need a 24-hour in-service

[1:05:35] training which

[1:05:37] we have historically always paid for the

[1:05:40] offices so this first year we're going

[1:05:42] to see a benefit that we're not going to

[1:05:44] have to spend that as much money as as

[1:05:47] we get projected before

[1:05:49] based on the Staffing levels

[1:05:54] foreign

[1:05:57] actually this this coming Monday

[1:06:01] I'm bringing him on because the state

[1:06:03] training starts actually on Monday so I

[1:06:07] didn't want him to fall six months

[1:06:09] behind my other four officers that I did

[1:06:11] hire and keep them right on the on Pace

[1:06:14] with everyone else

[1:06:17] the the training for code enforcement in

[1:06:20] the learning curve is loyal there's a

[1:06:22] lot to know

[1:06:24] and it's it you know we have 12 volumes

[1:06:29] of Code Enforcement uh the books that

[1:06:32] are you know thousands of pages thick

[1:06:35] and it's it's these guys job to

[1:06:39] find the right code cite the right code

[1:06:42] we've seen this but we have the states

[1:06:44] at that uh the the wedge weight building

[1:06:46] right that my officers took the uh the

[1:06:51] property site of the wrong code wasted a

[1:06:54] lot of people's time you know really and

[1:06:56] uh you know it's really the training to

[1:06:59] get them the knowledge of really knowing

[1:07:01] the proper violations to right and and

[1:07:05] uh and and right in the right Manner and so that totally really worked on

[1:07:11] we've just had a great success with that

[1:07:15] building and now that's going to be

[1:07:17] uh redeveloped and in a nice project

[1:07:20] here in the city so

[1:07:24] go ahead another question it's not

[1:07:27] really about training but however maybe

[1:07:28] causes

[1:07:30] um the rules and guidelines are

[1:07:33] so um in terms of Code Enforcement

[1:07:35] Officers let's say let's say

[1:07:37] specifically that there's a stock work

[1:07:40] order or they go out and they see

[1:07:42] somebody working who doesn't have um

[1:07:44] to commit

[1:07:46] so is there a discretion as to what they

[1:07:50] could do with it or their hard and fast

[1:07:51] rules and how that works so

[1:07:54] um

[1:07:56] there's absolute discretion in the

[1:07:58] department and the way that we'd like to

[1:08:01] handle it is we'd like to get the person

[1:08:03] back in the office the same day but a

[1:08:07] lot of times uh people may this may be

[1:08:10] their first time ever interacting with

[1:08:13] code enforcement they they really don't

[1:08:15] know the process

[1:08:17] and how to how to get a permit or obtain

[1:08:20] a permit or or they even know they

[1:08:22] needed a permit so uh I would like to

[1:08:25] and always have discretion to work with

[1:08:28] these people to really get them to get

[1:08:30] the permit that's compliance is our main

[1:08:34] goal and so um

[1:08:36] a lot of fees a lot of times we'll put a

[1:08:40] stop work order on and then we will

[1:08:41] leave the fees just to get the project

[1:08:43] once they uh

[1:08:45] you know obtain the permissions

[1:08:48] so kind of more to that point I think I appreciate you know that being willing

[1:08:54] to work with people that's what we want to get people in new clients I

[1:08:57] guess I would just think about and this

[1:08:58] again is more about process is that if it's

[1:09:02] too much discretion then you know there

[1:09:06] can be a lot of different variables as

[1:09:07] to how decision is made so I would just

[1:09:09] you know be mindful around like that

[1:09:12] because I think that's something you

[1:09:13] know if I'm you know told hey

[1:09:16] you can't do that work until you get

[1:09:18] this permit

[1:09:19] um I need you to come in tomorrow you

[1:09:21] know take it by tomorrow morning to get

[1:09:22] that done and then but my neighbor tells

[1:09:24] me oh the guy came tell me I'd be there

[1:09:27] today you know so just you know those

[1:09:29] kind of discrepancies you know and I'm

[1:09:31] sure there's a lot of like I said

[1:09:32] there's a lot of different variables

[1:09:33] depending on what the job is or what it

[1:09:35] is but I want to just make sure that you

[1:09:37] know because I think that that's on what

[1:09:39] council the president was talking about

[1:09:41] like I know that we've been giving some

[1:09:43] feedback around kind of different

[1:09:45] messages to different residents

[1:09:49] you're absolutely right now I don't

[1:09:51] think that we want out there that

[1:09:53] there's discrimination in the way that

[1:09:55] we handle as a work order for sure

[1:09:59] um if and if it takes a written policy

[1:10:03] of how how we handle a stock worker I

[1:10:07] can clearly write a policy Planet paid

[1:10:10] Trader and uh you know people across the board to

[1:10:15] every case that we come across

[1:10:18] but I also want to leave some autonomy

[1:10:20] enhance the professionals to make to

[1:10:23] make certain judgments so it's kind of

[1:10:24] just about achieving that necessary

[1:10:26] balance you know what I mean yeah in the

[1:10:28] past I thought you know you know ways to

[1:10:31] read them uh stock work orders you know

[1:10:33] you have a 500 stock work order on a

[1:10:36] large commercial uh contractor this

[1:10:39] really is not a lot of money or he

[1:10:42] doesn't really care you know the

[1:10:44] homeowner May care about the 500 so

[1:10:46] maybe there's a revamp in the fees and

[1:10:50] how it's looked at uh commercially to a

[1:10:53] residential or a first or to second or

[1:10:56] third time offender of of the

[1:11:00] uh permitting process that that we look

[1:11:03] at

[1:11:04] changing that policy in Facebook also

[1:11:11] I can definitely write something up

[1:11:12] though

[1:11:16] any other questions

[1:11:17] about the residence versus developer but

[1:11:19] that's awesome

[1:11:21] yeah yeah yeah but it's uh you know

[1:11:24] something that you know it they they're

[1:11:27] not as fearful of that 500 says as

[1:11:31] somebody that you know lives week two

[1:11:32] weeks

[1:11:34] thank you

[1:11:36] very good thank you thank you Chris

[1:11:39] thank you always

[1:11:40] thank you everyone I appreciate you all

[1:11:43] thank you

[1:11:46] oh I'm sorry oh

[1:11:49] um so there's a mind that there's if

[1:11:51] it's not good the info processing

[1:11:53] specialist before I see it on your in

[1:11:55] your budget but I

[1:11:58] and also the

[1:12:00] um

[1:12:02] together

[1:12:09] foreign

[1:12:10] [Music]

[1:12:14] never any thought of putting that in

[1:12:17] there so that would definitely be an

[1:12:19] error I did look at

[1:12:21] um

[1:12:22] uh potentially moving uh an individual

[1:12:26] from my PS3 to a net PS4 yeah you

[1:12:29] thought about that

[1:12:31] and

[1:12:32] um

[1:12:35] I'm opening to whatever anybody who here

[1:12:38] wants to do

[1:12:40] actually

[1:12:49] are you recommending it I mean it's just

[1:12:52] like cleaning out very recommended this

[1:12:53] person well been along the time where

[1:12:56] they you know it looks like it's an

[1:12:57] opportunity to move them up I I think

[1:13:00] that

[1:13:01] um sometimes it won't even look at

[1:13:03] long-term employees here in the city we

[1:13:05] have to Value them okay and take them

[1:13:07] for the services that they provide a

[1:13:11] little over this long period

[1:13:13] um

[1:13:14] in ips3 in our PS4 the IPS for

[1:13:20] has a lot more responsibilities in my

[1:13:22] opinion versus an ips3 I think there's

[1:13:26] not many IPS scores in the city of

[1:13:28] Schenectady I think there are maybe

[1:13:31] three three people with that position

[1:13:34] the person that I was going to recommend

[1:13:37] for the ips3 they would they will take

[1:13:39] on a lot more responsibilities if they

[1:13:42] are put into an IPS score and uh it

[1:13:45] would it would probably eliminate a

[1:13:48] principal code enforcement specialist

[1:13:50] and that person would actually be the

[1:13:53] supervisor of those people or or the

[1:13:56] administrative staff

[1:13:59] it will along with the duties that the

[1:14:02] principal code enforcement specialist

[1:14:03] had

[1:14:04] to become the IPS floor

[1:14:09] so could we just know what what the

[1:14:12] budget looked like differently the

[1:14:13] amount if that were filled

[1:14:16] yes would be uh come from three or four

[1:14:19] of you from forty five thousand four

[1:14:21] twenty three to uh fifty three thousand

[1:14:24] then 40. so it's about a

[1:14:27] so uh seven thousand four hundred seven

[1:14:31] thousand five hundred dollars thank you

[1:14:33] but you'd be eliminated

[1:14:35] eliminating the 48 936 right it's

[1:14:39] currently open yeah a lot of savings

[1:14:43] [Music]

[1:14:44] um

[1:14:47] specialists

[1:14:51] 5314 yeah

[1:14:56] something for us to consider

[1:15:00] did you end up you said you were if you

[1:15:02] would add that you would eliminate one

[1:15:04] yeah

[1:15:08] right I would like to keep the ips3

[1:15:11] which would if there's if we do an IPS

[1:15:15] four I'd like to keep that on IPS three

[1:15:17] eliminate the uh code enforcement

[1:15:20] Specialists keeping the IPS 3 leaving

[1:15:23] room for other people to grow into

[1:15:25] another spot that's that's there so

[1:15:29] um

[1:15:30] in in other uh like our code enforcement

[1:15:33] uh that we have a supervisor position

[1:15:35] that's somewhere for them to grow and

[1:15:37] then now there's a full-time assistant

[1:15:39] so our administrative staff really needs a place to grow into and and once

[1:15:45] uh you know they top out on their steps

[1:15:47] they feel stagnant and like they have to

[1:15:50] go somewhere else to uh to achieve that

[1:15:53] success in life so that that was really

[1:15:57] a thought

[1:16:00] thank you thank you

[1:16:05] all right

[1:16:07] [Music]

[1:16:12] yeah

[1:16:14] all right I got I got facilities

[1:16:22] [Music]

[1:16:26] um

[1:16:39] we'll do a page 12.

[1:16:43] all right

[1:16:45] thank you

[1:16:48] okay so Property Management staff

[1:16:51] building in the drums and security do

[1:16:53] you want to give us uh

[1:16:57] you know he had a

[1:17:00] 30 35

[1:17:02] 000 35 979 increase which is uh

[1:17:10] success

[1:17:13] increase access

[1:17:22] I'm sure I cannot believe this question

[1:17:24] yeah

[1:17:26] so uh facilities Building Maintenance

[1:17:29] um facilities Department which is uh

[1:17:31] under the department of engineering

[1:17:34] um we maintain

[1:17:35] City Hall

[1:17:37] police department and four fire

[1:17:40] departments as well as the parked

[1:17:43] buildings for the most part essentially

[1:17:45] it's the non-water and Sewer buildings

[1:17:47] in the city which are handed on default

[1:17:48] he handles his water into a building's

[1:17:50] under those codes unless some need to

[1:17:52] Rises

[1:17:54] um under that as a supervisor of

[1:17:56] buildings that's Joe Payne Jones he's

[1:17:58] been in that role for several years

[1:18:00] invaluable to the city and his role of

[1:18:04] handling all the day-to-day activities

[1:18:05] that's necessary around all those

[1:18:07] buildings

[1:18:09] um so Joe is there we have his longevity

[1:18:12] which is typical it's handed to me shift

[1:18:15] differential for our cleaning staff as

[1:18:17] we know we run two different shifts of

[1:18:19] cleaning staff so we have a shift

[1:18:20] differential we have our cleaners who

[1:18:22] are both stacked here and at the police

[1:18:25] department we have a 4-2 split but you

[1:18:28] know they do work hand in hand so we do

[1:18:30] rotate them if need be they all have

[1:18:34] overtime allowance usually it's for

[1:18:36] weekend things it just has spectacular

[1:18:38] we have the Children's Art Festival

[1:18:40] sometimes there's a need to have them so

[1:18:42] we keep that there there is a stipend

[1:18:45] that is uh for Joe as he is on call 2027

[1:18:48] if we have issues that is his on-call

[1:18:51] stipend uniform tool allowance that is

[1:18:54] the Bluetooth stipend each of them gets

[1:18:57] an annual stipends for boots

[1:18:58] uh and then we get into the the meat of

[1:19:01] it which is the expenses

[1:19:04] um I gave a handout out on and the first

[1:19:07] page of that handout is what I call a

[1:19:09] facility budget overview for repairs and

[1:19:12] fees if you're looking at the total

[1:19:14] you're going to see that there are two

[1:19:15] lines that are significantly higher than

[1:19:17] the others and that is fees for service

[1:19:19] and repairs

[1:19:21] um so the fees for service and repairs

[1:19:23] those are the most critical that you

[1:19:25] manage the other lines that you see

[1:19:27] phone expense that's for a cell phone

[1:19:29] laundry Windows fumigation I mean that's

[1:19:32] General business four thousand dollars

[1:19:33] supplies

[1:19:35] paint hardware supplies things that we

[1:19:38] need

[1:19:39] cleaning supplies that's when you go

[1:19:41] into the bathroom that's our Pacific

[1:19:42] Blue we have hand towels toilet paper

[1:19:45] soap you know so those are our general

[1:19:47] things but I wanted to break out and

[1:19:49] show you the fees and the repairs

[1:19:53] um so when I got assigned to facilities

[1:19:58] I was handed a box with a bunch of keys

[1:20:01] in it and a list of phone numbers to

[1:20:02] call in case of emergency

[1:20:04] um it's just not how you run a

[1:20:06] facilities the idea was when it breaks

[1:20:08] you fix it

[1:20:09] and if it's not broken it's fine

[1:20:13] um so you know we started transitioning

[1:20:15] I worked a lot with Anthony on this

[1:20:17] um at the time our facility person was

[1:20:19] Peter cadutson who's over at the county

[1:20:21] now you know Peter did a great job but

[1:20:23] when Peter left we knew Joe

[1:20:26] um and what I wanted to show in this

[1:20:27] illustration was the goal has always

[1:20:29] been to reduce the repair costs and

[1:20:33] increase the fee costs and that second

[1:20:36] page that I provided you with is the

[1:20:39] list of fees that make up our fees for

[1:20:42] service

[1:20:44] um this didn't exist it took years and

[1:20:45] it's still an evolving list so it we add

[1:20:48] to it every year for his instance at the

[1:20:50] bottom window washing we've met with

[1:20:53] window washing company so we made a

[1:20:55] significant investment of a million

[1:20:56] dollars into the windows of this

[1:20:58] building uh next year after pollen

[1:21:01] season we will be hiring a company to

[1:21:02] come and watch the windows and we're

[1:21:04] looking to put that as a three-year

[1:21:06] rotation of washing windows we have a

[1:21:09] very small outfit that is terrific I

[1:21:12] mean charges us pennies and he goes down

[1:21:15] and he cleans the police department and

[1:21:17] the Bureau of service all your guys were

[1:21:20] ecstatic you know what was the last time

[1:21:22] you hadn't cleaning windows but we found

[1:21:23] someone that does it you know under a

[1:21:25] 3500 parts of procurement

[1:21:28] um these windows because of how

[1:21:29] elaborate they are are not under 3500

[1:21:31] these are uh you know expensive Windows

[1:21:34] between but that's just the new thing

[1:21:35] that we have on there

[1:21:37] um to do so what I just wanted to show

[1:21:40] was

[1:21:40] um we are we are successfully doing that

[1:21:42] our repair lines are going down our fees

[1:21:45] are going up the overall budget you'll

[1:21:48] notice it's pretty stagnant for you know

[1:21:50] one percent four percent zero percent

[1:21:52] two percent you know we're we're

[1:21:54] hovering there but we don't have as many

[1:21:56] repairs and the reason is we're doing

[1:21:58] more maintenance we're staying on top of

[1:22:00] things and also

[1:22:02] um we have Capital codes now dedicated

[1:22:04] to facilities so that we do have a major

[1:22:08] issue we're using Capital money and

[1:22:10] operating money and that's keeping

[1:22:11] things right

[1:22:13] the accounting is more accurate so I

[1:22:16] wanted to just show you uh those two

[1:22:18] things you know you could look at this

[1:22:20] list you know this is our main list as

[1:22:22] we go down but you know the monitoring

[1:22:24] cooling tower inspections or electric

[1:22:27] vehicles elevator means for every

[1:22:29] building making sure our exhaust systems

[1:22:31] our turf management our fire

[1:22:33] extinguishers we have Gates generators

[1:22:35] we just had a generator issue today

[1:22:38] all of these fees that we go Overhead

[1:22:40] Doors locksmiths telephones water

[1:22:42] treatment systems this building now has

[1:22:44] you know just a water softener but we

[1:22:46] also have an injection system for the

[1:22:47] boiler because you know we have hard

[1:22:49] water so as much as we can to keep that

[1:22:51] water PH neutral it helps the longevity

[1:22:54] of our pipes here and you know this gets

[1:22:57] updated whenever we have a new agreement

[1:22:59] whenever we have anything we update to

[1:23:01] sheet because then it gives me that

[1:23:03] total on the bottom that total gets kind

[1:23:05] of plugged in and we work from that so I

[1:23:08] mean Anthony and I've been working on

[1:23:10] this EC the results uh Liz who was tough

[1:23:13] to please she's really been seeing this

[1:23:15] you know she's been happy about it so I

[1:23:18] think uh that it's going but those are

[1:23:21] the two big ones uh similarly though I

[1:23:23] want to point your attention to 1622

[1:23:26] 470a

[1:23:29] I would like to increase that tomorrow I

[1:23:32] did with the uh golf course I'd like to

[1:23:37] bring that up to ten thousand

[1:23:38] 500 just so if you're asking the

[1:23:42] question of why is it 24 34 the year

[1:23:45] before what ended up happening is we

[1:23:48] found the heating bills in 2022 this

[1:23:52] year and so the bills went to a

[1:23:56] different department okay we got them

[1:23:58] yeah that number is not actually 24 34.

[1:24:03] it's actually closer to 7 500 but we

[1:24:06] paid for those out of this year's codes

[1:24:08] we made it work it's fine but I just

[1:24:10] want if you're looking past history that

[1:24:13] number is not necessary representative

[1:24:15] and this eating fuel is for Arts

[1:24:18] buildings we have

[1:24:20] Parts building that I.T and signals is

[1:24:22] in we have a kennel we pay for that for

[1:24:25] the count it's kind of the miscellaneous

[1:24:27] buildings heating so far so we'd like to

[1:24:30] move that off because fuel toss our

[1:24:32] continued up to ten thousand up to ten

[1:24:34] thousand we think that'll be fine we

[1:24:36] look at our past history and we've never

[1:24:37] exceeded really nine so that gives us

[1:24:40] enough pushing we think to go and if we

[1:24:42] have to we can always figure it out but

[1:24:44] I I think that 6500 is too well enough

[1:24:46] thank you

[1:24:48] um so that is

[1:24:50] that oh no there's one more thing to

[1:24:52] facilities

[1:24:53] uh we can talk about it in Mobile

[1:24:54] engineering if you like I don't have my

[1:24:56] orb charts written and things like that

[1:24:57] but I haven't even had a chance to talk

[1:24:59] with Paul about this uh because it's

[1:25:02] kind of new is that Mr panjon is uh

[1:25:06] looking to retire possibly as early as

[1:25:09] March as I talked today uh with the

[1:25:13] latest he is here until July

[1:25:15] I talked with Anthony about it right

[1:25:17] before our meeting because that is

[1:25:20] critical to me

[1:25:21] um losing that position which is a

[1:25:24] day-to-day position and having to have

[1:25:26] myself cover that workload will halt

[1:25:29] engineering until we can replace them so

[1:25:32] I just wanted to make you aware of that

[1:25:34] we're going to most likely post the

[1:25:37] position in the future and try to figure

[1:25:39] out how we can have at least a couple of

[1:25:41] month overlap with someone in jail

[1:25:44] because there is a lot of interest and

[1:25:46] knowledge you have to have over all the

[1:25:48] buildings

[1:25:49] just the keys and the personnel and you

[1:25:53] know it's it's it's a day-to-day job so

[1:25:56] that is a big deal for us

[1:25:58] so um if you hire the new person would

[1:26:03] um

[1:26:04] would perhaps the salary be reduced a

[1:26:06] little bit for the remainder of the year

[1:26:08] because it becoming a lower salary than

[1:26:10] with Japan Jones that's a little

[1:26:12] offensive you know because then that

[1:26:14] might make up on the 3500 meal okay

[1:26:19] yeah and we have to we'll have to see

[1:26:21] what we get but at the same point that's

[1:26:22] what I wanted to make it wears because

[1:26:23] Aunt and Eric and Paul we're going to

[1:26:25] sit down and talk about where it's going

[1:26:26] to come from uh you know there is some

[1:26:28] salary capacity in engineering right now

[1:26:31] um you know so maybe we move it from an

[1:26:33] engineer to here

[1:26:35] um so that we're not regardless if it

[1:26:37] does happen we'll be coming back here

[1:26:39] probably with a budget amendment to make

[1:26:41] you aware of it but uh like I said this

[1:26:43] is just new news for me and I want to be

[1:26:46] sure if the show is everybody here is

[1:26:48] critical but Joe is so day to day that

[1:26:52] is something that we're going to have to

[1:26:53] look at

[1:26:56] all right questions

[1:26:59] no question my questions were answered

[1:27:03] thank you sir

[1:27:06] [Music]

[1:27:11] John you have one question oh go ahead

[1:27:14] sorry no I apologize and I'm like just

[1:27:16] kind of wanted to make sure that this is

[1:27:19] in one of your projection it was a 1622

[1:27:23] 122 that museum overtime a significant

[1:27:26] jump that's in line with what we were

[1:27:27] talking about we're having those hours

[1:27:29] for that stuff yeah I mean it is

[1:27:32] dependent on what we have for events for

[1:27:35] the seat up in 2021 we were at nine

[1:27:37] thousand dollars this year we're

[1:27:39] projected you know a little bit more I

[1:27:41] think that is it's safe now that we have

[1:27:43] full staff as well with including two

[1:27:45] people on we're also this is just

[1:27:49] shop things we're also putting making

[1:27:51] sure that we always have someone staffed

[1:27:54] here at the police department every two

[1:27:56] days

[1:27:57] it sounds inconsequential I know but

[1:28:00] what the policy was usually was people

[1:28:02] got the holiday off via Friday or a

[1:28:05] Monday but what was happening is the

[1:28:07] police department at that third day was

[1:28:10] 24 7 facility nobody was there cleaning

[1:28:13] it for three days that third day we were

[1:28:15] hitting a break you know trash

[1:28:17] overflowing bathrooms needed to be

[1:28:19] cleaned so we started Staffing for every time that we would have you

[1:28:24] there's no longer three days off so even

[1:28:27] if it is a holiday we stacked two people

[1:28:29] there for instance uh Columbus day that

[1:28:31] we just had we will have two people

[1:28:33] there just for four hours but the four

[1:28:36] hours on a holiday is double time but

[1:28:38] it's a critical thing because we were

[1:28:40] getting a lot of complaints when we were

[1:28:41] going three days with 24-hour shifts

[1:28:43] [Music]

[1:28:47] any other questions

[1:28:56] so we only I I uh I wanted to hand out

[1:28:59] for the third sheet uh that I created so

[1:29:02] we're just going to talk about

[1:29:03] facilities right now

[1:29:05] and uh if you look at facilities that

[1:29:07] just I know I would get a question about

[1:29:09] what the general facility improvements

[1:29:10] is

[1:29:11] um so General facility Improvement is

[1:29:14] the top half here of your facility

[1:29:16] improvements so the projects that we're

[1:29:19] looking to complete next year are the

[1:29:22] sanding and painting of The Clock Tower

[1:29:24] the lights right now are being

[1:29:26] refurbished we have the linears back the

[1:29:28] spotlights are pending they'll be coming

[1:29:31] back from Vegas hopefully soon and we'll

[1:29:33] get the lights back to illuminate the

[1:29:36] clock tower uh station one HVAC system

[1:29:39] is original in the building so 1981 and

[1:29:42] we're having a lot of issues with it

[1:29:43] with regards to just a lot of leagues

[1:29:45] and inefficiencies the police department

[1:29:48] has what is called a Shore it needs to

[1:29:51] be replaced it is a very expensive

[1:29:52] elaborate piece of equipment

[1:29:55] um so we're looking to replace that SPD

[1:29:57] Locker Room Shower facilities this is

[1:30:00] something focused really on the female

[1:30:03] shower and Locker facilities they are

[1:30:07] inadequate and we would like to upgrade

[1:30:09] them so that they are at least adequate

[1:30:11] and if not maybe Beyond adequate

[1:30:14] um then we have some fencing insecurity

[1:30:16] at the fire department at station one

[1:30:18] they're looking they have a lot of

[1:30:20] cross-through traffic because it's an

[1:30:22] open area something that we've been

[1:30:24] talking with them about we've actually

[1:30:25] had a conversation with the county about

[1:30:27] maybe combining some locks there and the the mayor's been helping with that

[1:30:33] as long as those achieved and then uh

[1:30:36] SPD generator we just had a major

[1:30:39] coolant leaked at the generator today

[1:30:42] um it's a diesel generator it's interior

[1:30:45] it's been there

[1:30:47] um I don't think it has sufficient

[1:30:48] capacity to actually power things like

[1:30:49] the elevator and some of the more

[1:30:51] critical systems that we'd like to have

[1:30:53] so we're opening that uh

[1:30:55] study we can replace it with an exterior

[1:30:56] generator or replacing it with an

[1:30:58] interior generator that's a little bit

[1:31:00] larger and capable of powering more

[1:31:02] things at the PD because we have more

[1:31:04] power requirements now

[1:31:07] um and then below that is the arpa

[1:31:09] funded City Hall of ventilation

[1:31:12] um Anthony I would in the final budget

[1:31:14] if possible maybe take out the words

[1:31:16] HVAC and just call it City Hall

[1:31:19] ventilation because it's a ventilation

[1:31:22] system it's meant to just sponge air out

[1:31:26] of the building and that's why you

[1:31:28] usually just see it in bathrooms and

[1:31:31] large public areas such as upstairs

[1:31:33] so those are the facilities capital

[1:31:39] projects

[1:31:41] foreign

[1:31:51] [Music]

[1:31:54] level of which to address first would

[1:31:56] you be able to prioritize the facility

[1:31:58] improvements sure

[1:32:00] um so the number one facility

[1:32:02] Improvement right now is going to be

[1:32:04] station one

[1:32:06] um HVAC upgrades that's probably going

[1:32:09] to be because that is going to be

[1:32:10] involved it's going to be a bid

[1:32:13] um I will say the second is the locker

[1:32:15] room over at the PD uh that probably one

[1:32:18] and one a and I think that that really

[1:32:20] is something that we need to do

[1:32:23] um and after that you get into kind of a

[1:32:26] splitting hairs a little bit I would say

[1:32:28] it's short because I think the chiller

[1:32:30] is an easier project to complete it's an

[1:32:32] equipment completion

[1:32:34] um we'll be able to fit that fairly

[1:32:35] easily I mean I I could call train and

[1:32:38] they could do it on their own problem is that procurement you can't just

[1:32:42] patreon right right 400 some thousand

[1:32:44] dollars even though really it's all in

[1:32:46] the labor is a fraction of what the

[1:32:49] equipment calls much like our Paving

[1:32:51] contracts you know where it's all in the

[1:32:52] asphalt you know that's the chiller so

[1:32:54] I'd really like to get that done

[1:32:56] um then the clock tower uh that is

[1:32:59] probably going to be important just

[1:33:01] because it's Critical with weather you

[1:33:02] don't want it too hot you don't want it

[1:33:03] too humid

[1:33:05] um and I mean last would be a fencing

[1:33:07] definitely you know fencing is the

[1:33:09] lowest priority and then somewhere the

[1:33:10] generator we have a generator the

[1:33:12] generator is functioning this would just

[1:33:14] be the upgrade the generator and then

[1:33:16] we're already working on the building

[1:33:18] ventilation because that was approved so

[1:33:20] I've already had a meeting with a

[1:33:21] consultant so that one's kind of already

[1:33:22] going

[1:33:23] but definitely

[1:33:25] um HVAC and locker room facilities are

[1:33:28] at the top that's outcomes to get moving

[1:33:30] on and that's you know and uh this is there but we also right now

[1:33:35] we're doing the way I talk about this I

[1:33:37] got to talk about a doctorate facilities

[1:33:39] right now we're doing the firing range

[1:33:40] uh the spe has an ongoing construction

[1:33:42] project we're renovating the emergency

[1:33:45] uh response power the fire tower over by

[1:33:48] the golf course we're building a new uh

[1:33:51] practice facility practice so training

[1:33:53] facility over at uh the fire facility

[1:33:56] next to there we took down the old

[1:33:57] Smokehouse so we're building a facility

[1:33:59] that'll be more universally used we're

[1:34:02] looking at working with the fire station

[1:34:03] to replace carpeting we're really trying

[1:34:05] to move away from carpeting especially

[1:34:07] in the fire facilities where you track a

[1:34:10] lot of you know things on with your

[1:34:12] boots so we've been working on that

[1:34:14] we're going to be doing all new uh

[1:34:15] probably uh like it's called luxury

[1:34:17] vinyl flooring removing all the carpet

[1:34:19] that's the capital project we have going

[1:34:21] on now so there's a there's quite a few

[1:34:24] things going on now with capital these

[1:34:26] are to add to that so we're never at a

[1:34:29] wash rewards

[1:34:30] yep right now I think I need to

[1:34:32] encourage you to spend more money but I

[1:34:34] was just wondering earlier you were

[1:34:35] talking about are

[1:34:36] the lock systems himself I was wondering

[1:34:39] like we ever have any thought about like

[1:34:40] maybe like props for

[1:34:42] throughout so all the doors yeah

[1:34:45] remember we have discussed it we look at

[1:34:48] it periodically and it's there is an

[1:34:51] expense in what's the actual utilization

[1:34:54] of the locks and the and the impact of

[1:34:57] the building you know where you have to

[1:34:59] run that wire and get everything to each

[1:35:01] one and we're it involves a lot of a lot

[1:35:04] of drilling a lot of wiring and then the

[1:35:06] cost of most benefits better than right

[1:35:08] there yeah I mean I I really I I think

[1:35:11] you know as a city we've done a really

[1:35:13] great job people really like you know we

[1:35:15] have the key fob system and we have one

[1:35:17] point of entry which is great we have a

[1:35:19] secure you know I think we're getting

[1:35:21] there I think people actually feel a

[1:35:23] little bit more secure now in the

[1:35:25] building because you know for the first

[1:35:26] of the pre-coding four doors in four

[1:35:29] doors out

[1:35:30] a little a little odd you know who was

[1:35:33] able to lose wear now with the building

[1:35:35] locks down I really I think it works I

[1:35:40] personally what I'm going to be probably

[1:35:41] working for is I've tried uh

[1:35:43] but it was squashed once by a previous

[1:35:44] Finance commissioner it drives me nuts

[1:35:47] that we have the high school bathroom

[1:35:48] situation that we have and I hate it

[1:35:50] which is to go to the bathroom you need

[1:35:53] to get a key actually one Department the

[1:35:55] keys attached to a ruler you know so you

[1:35:57] know I'm looking at something like that

[1:35:59] uh upgrading to like a keypad or you can

[1:36:01] just do a code you know like the same so

[1:36:04] there's certain things like that for

[1:36:05] Access but it would be nice to have I

[1:36:07] think the files for tracking but I think

[1:36:09] what we have now is a nice nice

[1:36:10] compromise

[1:36:15] there we go all right thank you thank you thank you guys on Thursday

[1:36:21] yeah

[1:36:21] [Music]

[1:36:25] yeah

[1:36:29] all right

[1:36:38] um

[1:36:39] [Music]

[1:36:42] so this page uh 31 and let's go in order

[1:36:45] to Pages then so that is sometimes all

[1:36:49] right

[1:36:59] let's look at the total uh service which

[1:37:04] includes uh Administration maintenance

[1:37:06] garage uh snow and ice uh totals were

[1:37:10] all about four versions is 600 673 000

[1:37:14] 561 entries that's a 15 almost to 16

[1:37:17] increase

[1:37:19] yeah

[1:37:22] with

[1:37:23] [Music]

[1:37:37] um

[1:37:39] Sean Walker Sean um

[1:37:46] you're 33 uh here's the 72 31st

[1:37:51] Thursday

[1:37:53] yeah

[1:37:55] that's my personal service

[1:37:58] Administration starts off with um

[1:38:03] crew leader Sean Locker we have Sean

[1:38:06] Walker Chris moroney

[1:38:08] um

[1:38:09] two

[1:38:11] supervisors and the contractual CSEA

[1:38:14] Mike Cerrone

[1:38:17] location me and just go through the

[1:38:20] description okay so before we walk the

[1:38:23] street department manager uh put this up

[1:38:25] to which no I got mine because these are

[1:38:29] food

[1:38:30] 100 pages so I put markers just do the

[1:38:35] job description no names job description

[1:38:37] of the street department manager

[1:38:39] um it's a management range 88 400 for a

[1:38:42] percent

[1:38:44] um IPS three we have one

[1:38:47] um 43 993 thousand dollars

[1:38:51] um increases there are all contractual

[1:38:53] um mostly contractual demand at one

[1:38:55] management management four percent raise

[1:38:57] which brings that total from 202 to 259.

[1:39:04] um shift differential

[1:39:07] his contractual has gone up and standby

[1:39:09] pay if you look quite a difference one

[1:39:11] is the increase in the 1037 raise

[1:39:15] we look at the race um

[1:39:18] 22 it's about 60 minutes

[1:39:24] adjusted for

[1:39:25] all the shift different departments

[1:39:27] sorry the standby date we have a number

[1:39:29] of people who are always on standby to

[1:39:31] get standby paid for the Emergency solar

[1:39:33] trucks different things so there is an

[1:39:36] increase there it's contractual

[1:39:39] um shift differential is the winner

[1:39:41] overtime

[1:39:45] there is no stiping well there is a

[1:39:48] cycle we

[1:39:50] live yeah

[1:39:56] there's a statement for the department

[1:39:58] manager since it was left out

[1:40:00] inadvertently um oh so it has to okay

[1:40:12] other expenses have stayed the same

[1:40:15] slight increase with cleaning supplies

[1:40:17] just because of inflation for

[1:40:20] um you know the Bureau of service down

[1:40:21] there

[1:40:25] Total Service Administration is up

[1:40:28] slightly also because of the contractual

[1:40:31] obligations

[1:40:35] any question on the service

[1:40:36] Administration

[1:40:37] no answer mine about the increase in

[1:40:40] standby cell okay all right let's move

[1:40:43] to the next page Street Service yes okay

[1:40:47] I'm on Japanese

[1:40:49] contractual longevity I have nobody to

[1:40:52] bring me out that is uh I said they were

[1:40:55] going to retire

[1:40:56] again out of grade is up slightly and

[1:41:00] that's because of the increase in

[1:41:02] salaries for 1037 members

[1:41:06] shift differential is in there

[1:41:08] contractual up slightly from 520 to 600

[1:41:11] dollars

[1:41:14] the fills stay the same in the in the

[1:41:17] street department

[1:41:19] the increase there for total support and

[1:41:22] services always is all associated with

[1:41:24] the contractual obligations we have

[1:41:25] including cbas

[1:41:28] um

[1:41:30] overtime 49 000 we'll say they went to

[1:41:34] 16 because that is a reflection of the

[1:41:36] increase in salary is going up

[1:41:38] mm-hmm Total Sports salaries

[1:41:42] and a number of the bills stay the same

[1:41:44] but we are up from the 962 slightly one

[1:41:47] million yeah 6 100. again mostly

[1:41:51] associated with salary increases um

[1:41:53] that things would stand by train and

[1:41:55] over time

[1:41:59] further expenses

[1:42:01] pretty much stayed the same in the one

[1:42:03] thing you'll see is that we did tools and Hardware

[1:42:08] um one because just the price of

[1:42:10] everything going up inflation and the

[1:42:13] road materials masonry supplies is where

[1:42:16] we get our you know our our black cup

[1:42:18] our asphalt our concrete and you know

[1:42:21] we've all seen an increase in that

[1:42:22] material

[1:42:24] in 2022 and we expected to stay where

[1:42:27] there's at least for 23.

[1:42:30] repairs slightly increased from two

[1:42:32] thousand dollars to four thousand

[1:42:34] dollars

[1:42:35] um

[1:42:36] safety supplies we've kept the same but

[1:42:39] overall on the total service Street

[1:42:41] Maintenance budget from 1.154 million

[1:42:44] dollars to change to 1.224

[1:42:47] um

[1:42:48] biggest hit or salary can benefit

[1:42:51] salaries and then in the road materials

[1:42:53] and stuff that we have no control for

[1:42:55] pricing but we actually can go up

[1:42:57] uh 22.

[1:43:00] go ahead please so uh the government

[1:43:03] series that was my question we don't

[1:43:05] enter into a multi-year contracts with

[1:43:07] that so it's it's year by year it's year

[1:43:10] by year it's usually um the asphalt we

[1:43:13] get

[1:43:13] um you know it's the the price we get

[1:43:16] under State contract

[1:43:17] um the filter or pressure run that we

[1:43:21] used we usually get locally from larger

[1:43:24] because we don't have storage area we

[1:43:26] take hundreds of tons in and just use it

[1:43:28] as needed and we couldn't have to go get

[1:43:31] it as we take a small sort of pile you

[1:43:33] know on Foster Avenue but if you don't

[1:43:35] have the um you know the real estate to

[1:43:38] store large amounts of it we buy large

[1:43:41] quantities so we I mean by typical of

[1:43:45] like the POS we need it fill holes this

[1:43:48] covers our topsoil spray bottle damage

[1:43:51] after plowing we have to come back with

[1:43:53] auto damage so it'll be top soil you can

[1:43:56] crush them on the blacktop concrete

[1:43:58] there's a number of things that we use

[1:44:00] from typically the local laundry in

[1:44:02] different places

[1:44:03] so we don't need to contact you buy it

[1:44:06] as needed all right thank you

[1:44:09] any other questions for this section

[1:44:12] all right let's move on to the

[1:44:14] mechanical

[1:44:15] Mr friends

[1:44:17] simple

[1:44:18] right we um we had requested a assistant

[1:44:21] fleet manager it was removed so we do

[1:44:24] have one fleet manager at a salary of 86

[1:44:28] through 17 and that's a CSA so that is a

[1:44:31] great increase construction obligation

[1:44:34] there

[1:44:37] longevity

[1:44:38] come down slightly

[1:44:41] I don't know you know why I don't know

[1:44:43] if it was um

[1:44:45] uh somebody who left but launched

[1:44:48] everything down slightly we did have a

[1:44:50] couple people leave early in this year

[1:44:52] so it might make the adjustment day long

[1:44:54] again two people leave

[1:44:55] [Music]

[1:44:57] um

[1:45:00] stay in my day again just contractual

[1:45:02] obligations we do have a vacant position

[1:45:05] um so we I never recommended that we go

[1:45:09] from 5214 to 10 4 28.

[1:45:13] and along with overtime at the moment

[1:45:16] because the salary increase is from ten

[1:45:17] thousand fifteen thousand and it covers

[1:45:19] these people bringing them

[1:45:21] so different events that we have

[1:45:25] parades summer night these people

[1:45:29] floating positions people who have

[1:45:30] equipment out so we need our Fleet

[1:45:31] managers and other stuff

[1:45:38] the fills they have stayed the same we

[1:45:42] have two welder Fabricators and we have

[1:45:45] one heavy our Master Mechanic and we

[1:45:47] have three what we call

[1:45:51] operator mechanic or heavy equipment

[1:45:53] operator mechanic and they work on all

[1:45:55] our equipment whether it's heavy

[1:45:56] equipment whether it's our trucks all

[1:45:58] our vehicles whether cold Vehicles water

[1:46:00] sewer they're doing all their work and

[1:46:03] they are doing a great job

[1:46:05] have three

[1:46:07] qualified mechanics now in the shop and

[1:46:10] so a lot of the work is being done now

[1:46:14] internally

[1:46:15] reducing some of our costs that we can

[1:46:17] and yet still some goes out because

[1:46:19] there are some specialty work that we

[1:46:20] can't handle on some of our bigger

[1:46:21] trucks

[1:46:22] we're just not equipped to do that but a

[1:46:24] lot of the maintenance of being done now

[1:46:26] in the house tires oil changes

[1:46:28] brakes

[1:46:30] we are seeing the difference there

[1:46:36] good

[1:46:37] the other question you um I wanted are

[1:46:40] you finished with your overview

[1:46:42] well it continues to go we got equipment

[1:46:44] so you're going to see some of the costs

[1:46:45] go up where we see with phones one is

[1:46:48] vacant belt right now

[1:46:49] um

[1:46:52] uh the phone phone Supply yeah

[1:46:55] phone services phones it's 1200. it was

[1:46:59] 24 and that could be reduced because

[1:47:01] there was going to be um that was

[1:47:02] covering the assistant Fleet so

[1:47:04] assistant fleet was removed so we could

[1:47:05] remove twelve hundred dollars from there

[1:47:07] if you wanted to

[1:47:08] foreign

[1:47:19] motor vehicle repair equipment

[1:47:22] is going up mostly because of the parts

[1:47:25] itself The increased in Parts what we

[1:47:28] see is Parts and Equipment oil fuel

[1:47:30] grease everything we buy we can go to

[1:47:33] the supermarket nowadays everything is

[1:47:34] going on yeah

[1:47:37] so if that would go up by 158 000 and

[1:47:41] more vehicle repair clinic and we also a

[1:47:43] line for parts and vehicle equipment

[1:47:45] repair has gone up by roughly um twenty

[1:47:48] thousand dollars

[1:47:52] Total Service mechanical equipment has

[1:47:55] gone from 280 264 to 2.519 213.

[1:48:04] any questions

[1:48:07] the biggest preseason

[1:48:11] because that's all bubbles

[1:48:14] go ahead please so you said that you

[1:48:17] asked for the assistance so could you

[1:48:20] just talk about why you know how that

[1:48:22] position you need to be in there so we

[1:48:25] you know we have three mechanics we have

[1:48:28] one fleet manager it's very hard to keep

[1:48:30] up with a lot of administrative stuff um

[1:48:33] you know with one person when a guy is

[1:48:35] out one athlete managers also turning

[1:48:37] wrenches and helping you know in the

[1:48:38] winter are we putting on blades to

[1:48:40] cutting edges

[1:48:41] um it's a time machine you can fall off

[1:48:43] the others and then previous stuff

[1:48:46] doing something more physical

[1:48:50] and I do have another question about the

[1:48:53] increase in the community

[1:48:56] this this line is every like for all cars everything is

[1:49:02] okay that's police fire

[1:49:05] um ogs water sewer yes

[1:49:09] that's the entire list is there a reason

[1:49:11] that it's not broken up by Department

[1:49:13] like it can be

[1:49:15] um I had a request today at 3 30 for

[1:49:18] that book

[1:49:20] no I didn't request it so that's right

[1:49:23] and Joe does said that he does break

[1:49:25] that down because anybody who needs fuel

[1:49:27] has a code they have energy of those

[1:49:29] vehicles and they go to that

[1:49:32] you know so we know what we're spending

[1:49:34] for police or daughter sooner or police

[1:49:37] it's Cody um you have to enter in your

[1:49:39] Social Security and everything so it's

[1:49:43] cool for budgeting and for expenditures

[1:49:45] or purposes is these are people one

[1:49:47] place sure that makes sense Paul says we

[1:49:51] do recognize and Joe is on vacation so

[1:49:54] he's in Florida so he comes back

[1:49:56] um

[1:50:01] to you okay

[1:50:04] go ahead so just uh earlier you're

[1:50:06] talking about um kind of the increasing

[1:50:09] standby pay he was and you also

[1:50:11] mentioned that um you have a vacancy and

[1:50:14] so I really thinking so that vacancy

[1:50:16] gets built and

[1:50:18] you might not need the budget for us

[1:50:20] for the employees who are on certain

[1:50:24] um signings on certain trucks that they

[1:50:27] are there

[1:50:28] um

[1:50:30] they're being compensated because

[1:50:32] they're they're home waiting right so

[1:50:34] yeah yeah

[1:50:36] wow

[1:50:42] almost every night and yeah yeah the

[1:50:45] emergency sewer attractions like that um

[1:50:51] barricades if there's an accident

[1:50:53] um you know fire

[1:50:57] and they are called

[1:50:59] yes

[1:51:02] it's called Saturday for traffic

[1:51:05] accident on State and Brandywine it's

[1:51:08] called for a cleanup yes

[1:51:12] any additional questions

[1:51:17] it kind of um it stands on the question

[1:51:19] for the fuel oil and grease so there's

[1:51:21] only one person that currently can pull

[1:51:23] down those reports that yeah don't pulls

[1:51:26] all those reports yes it's a one person

[1:51:29] that can pull those reports right now okay thank you

[1:51:33] stage 34.

[1:51:35] it's known as

[1:51:37] thankful

[1:51:39] that's right here

[1:51:43] come on yeah

[1:51:47] seriously again

[1:51:49] um the 51 42 112 is the overtime and um

[1:51:53] yes from 26 800 to 40 000 to account for

[1:51:58] increases in salaries for the 1037

[1:52:01] numbers

[1:52:03] um

[1:52:04] out of gray is pretty much sustained we

[1:52:07] didn't raise it

[1:52:09] we should be fine in the upgrade shift

[1:52:11] differential covers the the winter we do

[1:52:14] a break into shifts on the first Monday

[1:52:15] of December or we do every year and

[1:52:18] again I spoke to the union today and

[1:52:21] you're agreeing that they want to go

[1:52:22] back in at 3 A.M

[1:52:24] which is it's a good time because it

[1:52:27] gives me the coverage and we need

[1:52:29] 3M at 3M to get the streets you know

[1:52:32] either salted or cleared before school

[1:52:34] buses get out traffic starts to pick up

[1:52:36] and then he gives an overlap when my

[1:52:38] first shift comes in at 6 30. so I have

[1:52:40] two crews in and then you know the first

[1:52:43] shift will stay until three o'clock and

[1:52:45] you know obviously if we need overtime

[1:52:48] to go into the second shift over time

[1:52:49] [Music]

[1:52:53] um

[1:52:53] not gonna have any snow this year uh I

[1:52:56] hope not

[1:52:58] we did increase the fees for services

[1:53:02] we have our contractors that go out um

[1:53:05] with us we usually have about 18 loaders

[1:53:07] that we put on contracts for us to help

[1:53:10] with our routes

[1:53:11] and you know that is a you know

[1:53:14] hopefully we don't use much of it

[1:53:15] hopefully it doesn't let us know and

[1:53:17] hopefully they'll see a storm like we

[1:53:18] did two years ago

[1:53:20] but the rates for them have stayed the

[1:53:23] same but it's just a little more money

[1:53:25] indication to go out a little more um

[1:53:27] but there was no money increase for the

[1:53:30] contractors

[1:53:32] okay

[1:53:33] tools and Hardware the two thousand

[1:53:35] dollar increase is just you know

[1:53:38] I would say for the inflationary stuff

[1:53:40] that we buy

[1:53:41] and Road materials for the snow and ice

[1:53:44] on the salt that is just our rock salt

[1:53:46] again you know the 45 000 extra dollars

[1:53:50] is uh the price increase that we may

[1:53:52] anticipate in 23 for rock salt we have

[1:53:56] about half a shed right now to get us in

[1:53:58] through December maybe November we have

[1:54:00] to use a little bit of time

[1:54:06] foreign

[1:54:18] [Music]

[1:54:29] over to the parks currently we have they

[1:54:33] can position as the parks director that

[1:54:35] was posted I went through applications

[1:54:37] on

[1:54:39] Friday and yesterday so I am reviewing

[1:54:43] the director of parks applications right

[1:54:45] now we've been getting quite a few

[1:54:47] um

[1:54:50] currently

[1:54:52] Park supervisor contractual cnca a step

[1:54:56] increase

[1:54:57] again senior groundskeepers we have two

[1:55:02] and they they work a sort of a split

[1:55:05] schedule because they are covered in the

[1:55:07] summer on Saturdays and Sundays because

[1:55:09] of the ball fields they maintain the

[1:55:10] ball fields including the eight Diamond

[1:55:12] so

[1:55:13] one versus Saturday one works a Sunday

[1:55:16] another you know Friday Saturday offer

[1:55:17] Sunday money because we have to have

[1:55:19] seven day coverage to get the fields

[1:55:20] prepped for the summer so the senior

[1:55:23] Brown skiers are still two and there

[1:55:26] they did get the increases so there's

[1:55:29] just like an increase in the uh in the

[1:55:31] Intensive agreement

[1:55:33] um we did put on the senior tree trimmer

[1:55:36] and we also have a regular tree trimmer

[1:55:39] and we have advertised for a tree

[1:55:41] trimmer and that's still currently

[1:55:42] vacant uh

[1:55:47] they're putting trees

[1:55:51] um still been a little difficult in some

[1:55:53] of our positions in building them

[1:55:55] we don't get a lot of applicants because

[1:55:58] some of our

[1:55:59] members of the our required to have a

[1:56:02] CDL from class B license and um

[1:56:05] I've got a lot of people you know

[1:56:07] sending applications that have a CDL

[1:56:09] license and have this requirement for

[1:56:11] the city is

[1:56:15] so it's only there the only increases

[1:56:18] all associated with the um with the cdas

[1:56:22] so it did go from 324 394 333 923 to

[1:56:27] increase the contractual obligations

[1:56:31] so you talked about the CDLs and so

[1:56:34] people have to have them when we hire

[1:56:36] them right yes was there a time when we

[1:56:39] hired people and we got through CBL

[1:56:41] while they were there there is in the

[1:56:43] waste department if you're coming as a

[1:56:45] seasonal

[1:56:46] um under the current marketing agreement

[1:56:49] in the waste department you can put in

[1:56:51] as a seasonal no experience if you're a

[1:56:55] you shall promise a good employee a good

[1:56:57] work ethic you will move after six

[1:57:00] months to a Temper Employment you will

[1:57:01] be um there's an increase in pay for

[1:57:04] that and then you have nine months to

[1:57:06] show good faith effort and then she'll

[1:57:08] meet the requirements to become a

[1:57:10] permanent employee does that good faith

[1:57:12] effort is um

[1:57:14] two Sunday we will work with them they

[1:57:16] have to get a permit we can't help them

[1:57:18] get the permit once they get their CDL

[1:57:21] permit we put them in driver's seat of

[1:57:23] one of our waste trucks for Packers give

[1:57:26] them the experience they need

[1:57:28] um when they feel they're ready they'll

[1:57:30] schedule their road test and we will

[1:57:31] give them the vehicle to take the road

[1:57:34] test on if they pass that if there's a

[1:57:37] permanent position within the budget you

[1:57:40] can put them in and make a

[1:57:41] recommendation to put them in we have

[1:57:42] had a couple of people a few people go

[1:57:44] in

[1:57:46] get that CEO and they were made perfect

[1:57:49] so we do have the program but it starts

[1:57:52] in the least there is no

[1:57:54] that's not in the you know Street

[1:57:57] division or the water the sewer division

[1:57:59] is you need that CEO right then because

[1:58:01] you're you're in a you're in a dump

[1:58:03] truck you know horse rider right away so

[1:58:06] if there is no movement where if they do

[1:58:08] they get some of the guys from the waste

[1:58:11] division will bid out to you know

[1:58:13] another apartment and that opens an Meo

[1:58:16] position for that CEO for that person to

[1:58:18] be recommended to move up into a

[1:58:19] permanent Nel position within the city

[1:58:21] with full benefits again

[1:58:24] thank you

[1:58:27] go ahead so for those um positions do

[1:58:30] you um

[1:58:31] I know you're saying that you're not

[1:58:33] giving a lot of applicants um I know

[1:58:35] that that's I would imagine that for you

[1:58:39] know insurance purposes we want to make

[1:58:40] sure that people are coming out with the

[1:58:42] CDL do you think that they're uh we're

[1:58:44] not getting enough applicants um due to

[1:58:46] the current labor market or just because

[1:58:49] um the pay is not competitive enough

[1:58:50] well I think our opinions come up

[1:58:53] I mean if you think about it the less

[1:58:55] negotiations and the reason he got for

[1:58:58] the first year was 16 percent

[1:58:59] that's that's a that's a bigger release

[1:59:02] and um you know Hardware surrounding

[1:59:06] communities are paying a little more yes

[1:59:07] there is

[1:59:09] um but you know I think we're making a

[1:59:11] good effort as a city and a you know a

[1:59:13] council to recognize that and it was

[1:59:15] recognized in this last round of

[1:59:17] negotiations with the Union

[1:59:19] um that there was an increase for them

[1:59:20] but I guess too it's it's the market

[1:59:23] right now I mean our street division is

[1:59:25] fairly full right now speak with capital

[1:59:28] division but what happens is in the

[1:59:30] water and sewer the rates are still the

[1:59:33] same for those members whether you're a

[1:59:34] sewer maintenance work or a water

[1:59:35] maintenance worker or an meow and a

[1:59:37] part-speed snap or waste the rate of pay

[1:59:40] is the same but the CDL is required

[1:59:43] where we have the majority of vacant

[1:59:46] positions you'll see when we get to

[1:59:47] store budget is in the sewer department

[1:59:48] there's a little more experience with

[1:59:51] sewer because you're working with pipes

[1:59:52] and digging a little bit differently but

[1:59:55] that's where we have the more more

[1:59:57] vacancies and the sewers of in the

[2:00:00] street division emerge in the winter

[2:00:02] they become sort of one for snowplunk so

[2:00:05] the the shifts are split between what

[2:00:07] for sewer in street department to cover

[2:00:10] shifts and we are you know we are and

[2:00:13] you'll see in the budget I think there's

[2:00:14] 11 maybe vacancies right now there might

[2:00:17] be possibly 12 rent you know in the

[2:00:19] sooner when we get to sewerville yeah

[2:00:22] so

[2:00:24] yeah

[2:00:24] and you know I know you know Albany is

[2:00:27] right now looking for snowball drivers

[2:00:30] um so sustains you know

[2:00:33] more than us but it's it's strictly

[2:00:35] seasonal you're going in no benefits

[2:00:37] you're just making the hours great and

[2:00:39] then

[2:00:40] um then you're out yeah so

[2:00:47] uh any additional question on um Parts

[2:00:50] maintenance

[2:00:52] okay I will let you know in parts to the

[2:00:57] dark fees for services and parts yes the

[2:00:59] 150 000 is for trees

[2:01:02] and um there's a mobile tree removal we do do our big

[2:01:07] um

[2:01:08] we usually group a bunch of trees we

[2:01:11] could complaints from taxpayers dead

[2:01:14] yeah well flight

[2:01:16] um and put all these together it goes

[2:01:18] out to a number of vendors one of the

[2:01:20] things that I was informed recently

[2:01:22] apparently everybody was made was that

[2:01:26] the tree removal should be at a

[2:01:27] prevailing rate

[2:01:30] which is about three times what we were

[2:01:32] thinking

[2:01:33] [Music]

[2:01:34] so

[2:01:36] if we look at the current budget as it

[2:01:38] stands it'll be very minimal increase

[2:01:41] removed in this budget

[2:01:44] um

[2:01:44] a good example has been when the coach

[2:01:47] came in we built the purchasing it's the

[2:01:50] first time somebody submitted a letter

[2:01:51] about prevailing rate let's look into by

[2:01:54] purchasing now paper value rate

[2:01:57] so

[2:01:59] um you know um I may look at somehow

[2:02:02] talking at the end of Mayor looking at

[2:02:03] increasing that line item

[2:02:05] to cover the trade removal

[2:02:09] [Music]

[2:02:11] so I know that um an inventory of our

[2:02:15] trees were done

[2:02:16] how many

[2:02:18] um do you think there's must be 60 some

[2:02:19] trees that were

[2:02:21] playing in some of the parks to come

[2:02:23] down they were rated some you know more

[2:02:26] yeah you know privately unless

[2:02:30] um but a good example is what we put out

[2:02:32] when we when both came in at about 11

[2:02:36] 000 and he was a person who would be

[2:02:38] dealt with periodically through trees

[2:02:40] and the other one is 30 000.

[2:02:43] gotcha

[2:02:45] [Music]

[2:02:49] go ahead and how many trees was that for

[2:02:53] I think maybe eight or nine

[2:02:57] and they vary because you know

[2:03:02] whether a train is needed for the tree

[2:03:03] whether it is

[2:03:06] piece by piece so you know a tree

[2:03:10] animals from here to you know here to me

[2:03:14] in cost so okay we're not equipped to

[2:03:17] handle so you have a good agreement with

[2:03:18] National Grid the fire is involved they

[2:03:21] take it down

[2:03:22] um

[2:03:25] at no cost for us

[2:03:29] I think this is a question more for

[2:03:30] Anthony but so um I think Chris just

[2:03:33] mentioned an arborist and some we had an

[2:03:37] arborist in a different uh in

[2:03:39] development that one's coming up as well

[2:03:42] um and I was just curious so it's more

[2:03:45] than one arborist that

[2:03:48] or is it the same person that is in a

[2:03:51] couple of different budgets

[2:03:55] I think the armors that don't have any

[2:03:57] developments from the uh like a

[2:03:59] city-wide thing and other artists uh is

[2:04:01] the golf course guy he just does that by

[2:04:04] the hour oh okay all right

[2:04:06] this is too different okay

[2:04:09] and yeah

[2:04:13] [Music]

[2:04:29] yeah so if we don't pay prevailing

[2:04:32] weight right here is that also applies

[2:04:35] to what we're doing at the buffer

[2:04:38] I'm going to golf course yeah we we're

[2:04:41] Mike mostly Mike does that okay yeah

[2:04:43] what we're doing is when we you know get

[2:04:46] a complaint about a tree that tree or

[2:04:50] look at it they just natural troops you

[2:04:53] know we we don't we don't do one at a

[2:04:55] time

[2:04:56] we have gotten a better price grouping

[2:04:59] six to nine trees together you know

[2:05:01] contractor comes out definitely makes a

[2:05:03] couple weeks of it he takes some

[2:05:04] freestyle

[2:05:06] um it's a little different than you know

[2:05:08] parks and then

[2:05:10] so

[2:05:13] thanks

[2:05:16] to page 36

[2:05:19] full antennas

[2:05:30] only into the sports size everything is

[2:05:32] out there

[2:05:33] um

[2:05:34] the you know ours is typically under the

[2:05:37] fees for services for full maintenance

[2:05:39] um

[2:05:41] and

[2:05:43] here on page fourth my story is confused

[2:05:47] mechanisms

[2:05:51] for services

[2:05:54] to help us we've done you know anything

[2:05:57] that we need an outside contractor for the pool chemicals we see it's

[2:06:02] pretty

[2:06:03] um

[2:06:03] [Music]

[2:06:05] pretty standard because what we've been

[2:06:07] using the pool has been the same

[2:06:09] um 25 000 slightly up I believe you can

[2:06:12] make this an increase in the chemical

[2:06:15] price for chlorine

[2:06:19] repairs there's fifty thousand dollars

[2:06:22] in there for the repair line for pools

[2:06:24] and

[2:06:27] heating fuel is to keep the the

[2:06:30] buildings warm so nothing freezes and we

[2:06:33] get increased that by two thousand

[2:06:34] dollars just because of the cost of fuel

[2:06:37] oil going into 2023

[2:06:39] [Music]

[2:06:43] any question on this

[2:06:46] so the pool maintenance is up slightly

[2:06:48] from 91 500 to 96 thousand dollars

[2:06:55] foreign

[2:06:57] [Music]

[2:07:27] um and because of the um the difficulty

[2:07:29] finding lifeguards and the increases and

[2:07:32] rates the higher these like targets I

[2:07:34] think go from 150 to 185.

[2:07:37] um that's also a cool each time I'd say

[2:07:39] information

[2:07:40] yeah that's going to be the assignments

[2:07:42] the um the Pavilion and stuff that gave

[2:07:44] me there in the community room

[2:07:48] any other items the supplies clothing

[2:07:50] drug that's very minimal no real

[2:07:52] increases are there

[2:07:54] um so it was really the increase in fees

[2:07:56] for services for the Boys and Girls Club

[2:07:58] foreign

[2:08:00] [Music]

[2:08:29] this installed waste supervisor is one

[2:08:33] that's 35.83

[2:08:36] is a contractual liability CSA position

[2:08:40] commission General services

[2:08:43] myself Deputy Commissioner General

[2:08:44] Services

[2:08:45] Mr lung we're one-third can come out of

[2:08:50] three different parts of the budget

[2:08:52] they show a four percent increase for

[2:08:55] management along with the director of

[2:08:57] solid waste one position a four percent

[2:09:00] increase in one its three

[2:09:03] which is a moves for step five which is

[2:09:06] contractual so the increase there from

[2:09:09] 265 to 614 to 278 196 is based on salary

[2:09:14] increases

[2:09:17] foreign

[2:09:17] [Music]

[2:09:20] a couple people have reached different

[2:09:22] levels of longevity so there is this

[2:09:24] like increase there from 49 83 80 68 34.

[2:09:30] and the addition of Mr White

[2:09:36] any question on this section

[2:09:41] let's see another move to um

[2:09:43] wage collection

[2:09:45] that is 81 60 6100 then we have two

[2:09:50] SolidWorks supervisors currently they're

[2:09:53] both at the same

[2:09:55] great

[2:09:56] for 1598 66 to 63 583 csca

[2:10:02] on all the budget there's a title or

[2:10:04] something here there's no um

[2:10:08] it should be two one one a one to one

[2:10:11] yes

[2:10:12] if you look at your budget there's a

[2:10:14] plan yes okay sir so we're just gonna

[2:10:17] have to quite a bit more

[2:10:27] yeah that would be bad

[2:10:29] foreign

[2:10:43] [Music]

[2:10:48] over time though and again the salary

[2:10:51] increases and we're you know requesting

[2:10:54] five thousand to ten thousand if you

[2:10:56] look at 21 you did spend ninety seven

[2:10:57] hundred dollars

[2:10:58] [Music]

[2:11:02] the outer Graves came down slightly

[2:11:07] um

[2:11:07] you know from 15 to 12. I'm comfortable

[2:11:11] with that

[2:11:12] um we've moved some people around so we

[2:11:14] think we have the coverage we need so

[2:11:15] that was reduced slightly

[2:11:19] the winter shift differential is taken

[2:11:21] out what we call the 409 ownership

[2:11:23] differential because with an embarking

[2:11:25] unit they are compensated two dollars

[2:11:27] more an hour when they work anyway so

[2:11:28] that was removed and it's not reflected

[2:11:30] in the salaries yeah those are 125 so

[2:11:36] 8161-25 West York Maryland because

[2:11:39] that's other

[2:11:40] employees from different units come they

[2:11:43] also get paid two dollars an hour if

[2:11:45] they come from Parks if they come from

[2:11:46] when we're short which

[2:11:49] we are on a regular basis and we bring

[2:11:52] in people from snap or Parks or the

[2:11:55] street department wherever they are also

[2:11:56] awarded to those more hours to work in

[2:11:59] the police department so

[2:12:00] yeah

[2:12:03] the um in the full-time group game

[2:12:06] salaries the fills have not changed there's still

[2:12:09] two labor loaders there's 15 motor

[2:12:11] equipment upper new games and there are

[2:12:13] two ml M's in there for under arpa so so

[2:12:21] the total bills have stayed the same 19

[2:12:23] from 22 to 23.

[2:12:30] if you don't want to just explain this

[2:12:31] line at least working hours at least

[2:12:34] working hours yes right up on the top of

[2:12:36] page 816.

[2:12:40] that's the two for the

[2:12:42] somebody who comes in I'm not that

[2:12:45] pepper

[2:12:46] you know our daily basically we take

[2:12:48] people from Parks from staff from

[2:12:50] different places

[2:12:53] up on Thursday

[2:12:55] so our actuals in 2021 there was 31 000

[2:12:59] years

[2:13:03] [Music]

[2:13:06] it was an independent it was in a

[2:13:08] contract agreement yeah correct

[2:13:14] it's not the wintership internships

[2:13:16] differential no okay other expenses the

[2:13:20] only increase with requested there was a

[2:13:22] reindeer so because the price range from

[2:13:24] eight thousand dollars to ten thousand

[2:13:26] five hundred foreign

[2:13:27] [Music]

[2:13:30] yes have seen the right here I said I

[2:13:33] have seen the reindeer happy to see it

[2:13:35] however I've also seen people who are

[2:13:37] what they're wearing it doesn't look

[2:13:39] like it's really I don't see work boots

[2:13:41] for instance

[2:13:42] steel toe boots I see sneakers and

[2:13:44] things like that and people have

[2:13:45] actually sent me pictures to say this is

[2:13:48] the garbage people addressing yeah so

[2:13:50] they get a they get a Buddha levels

[2:13:53] sometimes the boys don't want to wear

[2:13:56] them because they're walking so much

[2:13:57] they fear that the steel toe boots are

[2:13:59] heavy

[2:14:00] um

[2:14:01] we can enforce that and if they to come

[2:14:05] into sneakers we can send them home I

[2:14:07] guess and what would we do so I know

[2:14:09] later we do give them a boot allowance

[2:14:11] and some employees that you know some

[2:14:13] will be driving this amount of activity

[2:14:15] you know that'll work and for me it's more like a safety thing so if

[2:14:21] something happens and they're wearing a

[2:14:23] speaker if they drop something really

[2:14:24] heavy steel toe who might help with that

[2:14:26] little sneaker it probably would we've

[2:14:28] addressed that a couple times we've put

[2:14:29] out a memo we told them that he paid for

[2:14:32] these boots and expect them to wear

[2:14:33] those boots

[2:14:34] then it comes down to you know I don't

[2:14:38] go every day and respect everybody

[2:14:39] somewhere

[2:14:41] um

[2:14:42] no mustard

[2:14:45] well I started early some days but it

[2:14:47] would be there at 5 45 and check for

[2:14:49] boots and um so um you know it's

[2:14:52] something we will probably have to look

[2:14:54] at again if people are starting to get

[2:14:55] off the you know the train where we're

[2:14:58] wearing them for a long time and now

[2:15:00] going back

[2:15:02] um we'll have to you know reinforce the

[2:15:05] need to wear these boots because you

[2:15:07] know we're kind of cases yes

[2:15:11] thank you any question on this question

[2:15:15] no I'll move to the next page always

[2:15:18] disposal

[2:15:21] okay and that is 81.62.

[2:15:30] you see the biggest increase here is the

[2:15:32] chickpe the e162 416

[2:15:35] um our contract for that goes up by CPI

[2:15:38] or or three percent

[2:15:40] um I will um tell you that um you know

[2:15:45] the the contract that we previously had

[2:15:49] prior to entering the county waste was

[2:15:52] costing us a lot more money when we

[2:15:54] entered into this agreement

[2:15:56] um

[2:15:57] we decided to do an RFP our activity in

[2:16:01] 19 was 72 dollars our activity right now

[2:16:04] at 22 for MSW is 46.98

[2:16:23] for two years

[2:16:25] so the increases you know contractual

[2:16:28] um you know for the CPI for our own

[2:16:30] activities

[2:16:31] for the services from 1.4 to 1 million

[2:16:35] to 1.5 million

[2:16:40] that's

[2:16:41] really the only increase in that waste

[2:16:45] disposal

[2:16:46] um

[2:16:47] section in the 8162

[2:16:51] let's go for the next one waste

[2:16:53] recycling

[2:16:55] [Music]

[2:16:56] um

[2:16:57] we did go down with our longevity

[2:17:00] station with a couple people and we left

[2:17:02] so one's ready to go down from 14 000 to

[2:17:06] 2010 560.

[2:17:09] um the auto rate Remains the Same

[2:17:12] um

[2:17:13] obviously the 409 winnerships difference

[2:17:15] has gone because it's built into the CDA

[2:17:17] now or

[2:17:20] um

[2:17:21] our fills were increased by

[2:17:27] one because one of them was a labor

[2:17:30] loader

[2:17:32] um he became the meal what happens when

[2:17:34] we lose a labor loader and we fill it

[2:17:36] with an email because the advantage is

[2:17:38] to have a driver there if we have all

[2:17:40] labor loaders we don't have anybody to

[2:17:42] drive the truck so we have a you know

[2:17:45] laborers in the back but nobody to

[2:17:47] physically drives the truck so we look

[2:17:49] for any of those because you can always

[2:17:51] work on the back of the truck as a

[2:17:52] driver

[2:17:57] one labor loader was um added an meal

[2:18:01] from the labor motor so you moved one

[2:18:03] person up so we increased the me LMS by

[2:18:07] one there

[2:18:10] foreign

[2:18:16] overtime again salary increases

[2:18:19] represents you know overtime increase

[2:18:22] from twenty thousand four minutes twenty

[2:18:24] five thousand dollars

[2:18:26] and the tool allowance will cover work

[2:18:28] boots different things for the 20 guys

[2:18:30] at five thousand dollars

[2:18:34] and we have to go check your results

[2:18:37] I'll just take a picture

[2:18:40] any question on these sections

[2:18:44] the flags were moved and so I don't

[2:18:47] think you're missing any of them

[2:18:49] equipment other expenses which is the

[2:18:52] recyclable fees we broke out this year

[2:18:55] to try and keep track of recycling

[2:18:57] to use now and TVP so okay

[2:19:03] we have E-Waste so one is e-waste one is

[2:19:06] the um the cost you didn't have the cost

[2:19:09] of recycling if you go back a couple

[2:19:12] years recycling was absolutely free and

[2:19:15] on E-Waste which is our Electronics TVs

[2:19:17] and stuff it's nowhere near free no more

[2:19:21] this is something that you know

[2:19:25] nobody's taking a cycling they're not

[2:19:27] going overseas no more in fact we can

[2:19:30] only get a one-year contract on

[2:19:32] recycling right now because of the um

[2:19:34] the market and nobody's willing to you

[2:19:38] know give us a good price for multiple

[2:19:39] years because they don't know where the

[2:19:41] recycling is going to go so it's

[2:19:43] typically a year by year so if County

[2:19:45] Waste is giving us that price right now

[2:19:47] because it goes to their their Murph the

[2:19:49] recycling center in the port of Albany

[2:19:51] um but we are paying more to remove

[2:19:53] recycling than we are MSW

[2:19:58] okay

[2:20:00] any questions

[2:20:02] go ahead so just be nice so I did have a

[2:20:05] question what would um

[2:20:07] I don't know if you said this the

[2:20:08] disposal fee for per ton for 2023

[2:20:12] was that do you have the questions there

[2:20:13] it will go off in 23 after January right

[2:20:17] now in 22 we're currently paying nsw

[2:20:19] 46.98 a ton recycling is 65.48

[2:20:40] when Joe comes back I can break down

[2:20:42] because one of the questions was um

[2:20:43] repairs that the fuel is

[2:20:45] all Contender wine service and it is and

[2:20:48] I can break that down Joe can break it

[2:20:49] down so when he comes back on vacation

[2:20:51] I'll I'll send an email out to everybody

[2:20:52] if you're just looking for ogs or if you

[2:20:55] want you know

[2:20:59] um the next question was what did we pay

[2:21:01] for time disposal in 20 21 22 today and

[2:21:04] what was the total tons collected for

[2:21:05] those years because this came at 3 30

[2:21:08] there's nobody down in the office but I

[2:21:10] can tell you that in 2020 we were paying

[2:21:13] for MSW which is the Wayside 41.80

[2:21:17] in 2021 at least in the CPO went to 4434

[2:21:21] and 22 minutes at 46.98 recycling

[2:21:27] um because it was free of 20 and 21 it

[2:21:29] was 6180 and it's not 65 48 in time okay

[2:21:33] we typically

[2:21:36] um

[2:21:37] do around 29 000 current tons a year ago

[2:21:41] she's averaged about 2700 because there

[2:21:43] was a question here what are the

[2:21:45] separate percentage of Sunday's pickups

[2:21:46] amounts for the city's coaching the

[2:21:48] commercial effects

[2:21:49] um scotia's average about 2 700 tons a

[2:21:54] year the city average is around 28 000

[2:21:57] tons a year give or take

[2:21:59] um

[2:22:00] and um you know recycling we don't

[2:22:07] separately

[2:22:08] but our recycling like I said is around

[2:22:09] 20 you know around

[2:22:11] 10 percent so around 2 800 tons versus

[2:22:15] 28 000 tons of MSW we do

[2:22:18] um

[2:22:19] the other thing there's a question um

[2:22:23] let's see how many times are collecting

[2:22:25] especially got divorces are sure plus I

[2:22:26] think Anthony would have to answer the

[2:22:29] Surplus for 22. what was our Surplus uh as of September 22 and uh request for

[2:22:37] additional surplus of three million

[2:22:38] needed for 23. I can't say that one of

[2:22:41] the things is we don't know where our

[2:22:43] recycling is going to go

[2:22:45] and if you don't know where E-Waste is

[2:22:48] going to go

[2:22:49] it's been very expensive to get rid of

[2:22:50] that stuff and also you know to me

[2:22:53] personally to build up a surplus every

[2:22:55] year I'm request at least four Packers

[2:22:58] uh that's a million dollars plus

[2:23:01] um in 22 we couldn't even get the

[2:23:03] Packers we had bought

[2:23:04] at least once um

[2:23:06] just and we spent almost a million

[2:23:08] dollars in police while I had to wait

[2:23:10] about 20 some months to get home and um

[2:23:13] these trucks are large they run every

[2:23:15] day

[2:23:16] um they're not the best way to run a

[2:23:17] truck because they don't get out there

[2:23:19] on a highway and get cleaned out like we

[2:23:21] do our cars they're just stopping going

[2:23:23] and stopping going things because

[2:23:25] so every 10 years you should recycle

[2:23:28] your vehicle if you're heavy equipment

[2:23:29] like that like we typically ask for four

[2:23:32] Packers a year and lately we haven't

[2:23:35] been able to give four even when you to

[2:23:37] approve it

[2:23:39] the constraints on vehicles the example

[2:23:41] we couldn't order any pickup trucks this

[2:23:44] year but Ford who has the contract told

[2:23:46] us we won't even take you to PL until

[2:23:48] January 23 so don't even call us for 22.

[2:23:51] so you know build up Surplus because

[2:23:54] when you have the opportunity to get the

[2:23:56] vehicles we need to get them that's my

[2:24:00] feeling and why you want to build up

[2:24:01] some Surplus so that you have

[2:24:03] money in your account so you can buy

[2:24:05] something and not find and updated that

[2:24:08] service and I'll pay the interest rates

[2:24:10] that's how I would look at that

[2:24:13] um

[2:24:16] I will tell you on our commercial

[2:24:18] accounts we increased our commercial

[2:24:23] in

[2:24:25] 2020 we they were paying 2.75 cents a

[2:24:28] gallon in 2021

[2:24:30] 3.45 cents a gallon and

[2:24:34] our commercial accounts

[2:24:36] over the last year have increased by

[2:24:39] over seventy thousand dollars by having

[2:24:41] one of our supervisors out

[2:24:43] paying attention and trying to getting

[2:24:47] things where we see that some of our

[2:24:49] drivers don't really know when the court

[2:24:51] will stop at that building might be a

[2:24:54] commercial account so that we're out and

[2:24:56] we Mark the chance if somebody pays for

[2:24:58] us to do say five commercial companies

[2:25:01] our supervisors out prior to the pickup

[2:25:04] making sure that they have five cans of

[2:25:07] enough

[2:25:08] so we've increased our Revenue in the

[2:25:10] commercial line by over seventy thousand

[2:25:12] dollars

[2:25:17] with the

[2:25:19] recycling the quality of the stuff

[2:25:22] matters which which you does it when

[2:25:26] waste management or facility it doesn't

[2:25:29] matter or no because we're on a single

[2:25:31] stream it doesn't matter if you notice a

[2:25:33] lot of them I think a lot about Vietnam

[2:25:35] sometimes you go to take a catwalk yeah

[2:25:37] they're so flimsy now half the bottle

[2:25:39] comes out when you yeah the cap off yeah

[2:25:42] it doesn't matter to them they're

[2:25:43] Recycling and right now it's not going

[2:25:46] anywhere special they do pull out the

[2:25:49] cans if they've had them before

[2:25:56] the quality of the recycling that might

[2:26:00] actually be able to produce accumulation

[2:26:03] is the only one local that has a

[2:26:06] system I reached out to

[2:26:09] um a competitor I won't say any names

[2:26:12] because he has a system like that but if

[2:26:15] he's not interested in what you're

[2:26:16] taking number sentence

[2:26:18] [Music]

[2:26:20] okay

[2:26:22] any other questions can you type it up

[2:26:25] for us and we'll fly back yeah if I have

[2:26:27] it I will share it with all the members

[2:26:29] then I want to make sure that we have

[2:26:30] all the answers yeah

[2:26:40] all right so we'll move on and let's do

[2:26:43] [Music]

[2:26:43] um

[2:26:45] water primer so another capital

[2:27:15] in the FX 1950 is attached to the

[2:27:18] contractors uh

[2:27:20] revenue and expenditures but

[2:27:27] thank you

[2:27:30] to water sales

[2:27:35] okay

[2:27:46] all right we're good

[2:27:48] with everybody else

[2:27:51] [Music]

[2:27:54] here we go

[2:27:59] [Music]

[2:28:08] um from 22 to 23 is up from one 1.846

[2:28:13] million to 1.914 549 and assuming that is the increase in the water rate

[2:28:20] increase rate increase Anthony brick

[2:28:23] right we're looking at a lot of weight

[2:28:25] entry

[2:28:27] salary for an average single friend home

[2:28:30] is approximately 12.97 a year comes to

[2:28:34] uh

[2:28:35] three and a half cents a day

[2:28:37] and that increases Revenue by about

[2:28:39] three hundred six thousand right

[2:28:44] the meter water will increase uh by

[2:28:48] Jesus outside the city outside the city

[2:28:51] by having

[2:28:52] .000248 gallons for no 37 120 000

[2:28:57] it's a total uh Revenue increases 426

[2:29:00] 000

[2:29:03] . uh one of the reasons uh for the

[2:29:05] increase we haven't raised the rates in

[2:29:07] since 2019 so it's going on 40 years

[2:29:10] without an increase you know we are

[2:29:13] using up our again water and soil we've

[2:29:16] been using our fund balances to take the

[2:29:19] repairs and for other

[2:29:20] technical projects so we're a little

[2:29:23] interested because you know we need we

[2:29:25] need to fund this and plus uh we're also

[2:29:27] funding for the loans and debt that

[2:29:30] we're about to get into

[2:29:32] it and can you go back up to B and look

[2:29:35] at the drop there from last year to this

[2:29:37] year there's a plan for you Google it

[2:29:40] for five seven

[2:29:43] yeah outside the outside study like City

[2:29:46] yes yes

[2:29:53] again the metered water snails outside

[2:29:55] the city well that's you know the

[2:29:58] adopted doesn't mean that we're going to

[2:30:00] get that from outside the city I mean it

[2:30:02] really depends on you know what this

[2:30:04] view is taking you know one Rider you're

[2:30:06] taking what TV is taking so you know

[2:30:09] when you anticipate that they'll take it

[2:30:10] but they don't have GE they don't touch

[2:30:12] things down and are what our revenue is

[2:30:15] going you know

[2:30:17] that's exactly what happened I think G

[2:30:19] because I'm a lot of courses this year

[2:30:21] that's right when you look better you

[2:30:23] know those are typically are you know

[2:30:25] our muted water cells outside are

[2:30:26] typically we you know our vendors that

[2:30:28] are you know

[2:30:40] a couple of companies put in special uh

[2:30:44] stores where we don't uh water well they

[2:30:47] maintain uh there's some different um

[2:30:49] fixtures

[2:30:50] [Music]

[2:30:58] so that's a ton of water

[2:31:01] how close would we get to a document you

[2:31:04] know

[2:31:04] [Music]

[2:31:11] but these are outside the city uh these

[2:31:15] are before the yeah because the zones go

[2:31:17] on the building yeah sometimes our

[2:31:18] buildings don't go out until February

[2:31:20] for the last part of February yeah so

[2:31:23] you're yeah you're six months out yeah

[2:31:28] so we're really at nothing 193 000.

[2:31:31] we've had

[2:31:33] some trouble with some of our Municipal

[2:31:36] Partners paying their bills on time

[2:31:38] paying your bills up period

[2:31:42] we have to actually go there and

[2:31:45] attack

[2:31:47] enforcer

[2:31:49] I wish we could maybe if the supervisor

[2:31:52] wasn't asking for such a large raise oh

[2:31:58] all right let's move on

[2:32:00] hold on the other the only other change

[2:32:03] is obviously because of the recommended

[2:32:06] rate increase would be in the unmuted

[2:32:08] sales which is what we call our flat

[2:32:09] rate so that's you know right in unit so

[2:32:13] that it's a flat rate based on fixtures

[2:32:15] within the city homes and um that's the

[2:32:18] only other change which will go from 5.4

[2:32:20] million to 5.7

[2:32:23] that is the total of water fund only

[2:32:26] increased by 22 197 so very very uh you

[2:32:31] know less than a quarter of a percent

[2:32:32] increase

[2:32:35] any question on the resume

[2:32:37] all right let's move on

[2:32:40] okay the expenses and uh I think it's

[2:32:43] 1950 46 is the taxes we pay taxes to um

[2:32:46] two neighboring communities because our

[2:32:49] Reservoir is located in Adonis unit and

[2:32:51] our fellow fields are located in the uh

[2:32:53] that kind of rotter name and that is the

[2:32:56] participating text

[2:33:08] at the end

[2:33:12] you have nothing well if the council may

[2:33:16] not be aware of okay there's nothing

[2:33:18] that's happened no it's not happening

[2:33:20] yeah

[2:33:25] underwater Administration salaries and

[2:33:28] the biggest change here is that we took

[2:33:30] the one assistant civil engineer out of

[2:33:33] the water fund work event to the general

[2:33:34] fund for engineering so it did reduce

[2:33:37] the number of fills from 3.6 to 2.6

[2:33:42] in the added you know the 0.3 for um the

[2:33:46] Deputy Commissioner

[2:33:48] um so there is a reduction in the salary

[2:33:50] based on moving the assistant civil

[2:33:53] engineer back to engineering from 249

[2:33:55] 596 to 187 922 so there was a reduction

[2:33:59] there I have one person

[2:34:05] foreign

[2:34:06] [Music]

[2:34:18] management

[2:34:20] but there is some for the junior civil

[2:34:22] engineer because that is a um that is a

[2:34:25] man not a management it's a legal

[2:34:28] position so there's an overtime there

[2:34:30] for that uh

[2:34:33] foreign

[2:34:34] [Music]

[2:35:13] everything else has pretty much stayed

[2:35:15] the same so you'll see the reduction

[2:35:16] from 21.7 to 16-7 so the total water

[2:35:19] Administration budget is um down from

[2:35:23] 275 to 208 and that's also because of

[2:35:25] the movie one only positions of

[2:35:29] injection

[2:35:29] [Music]

[2:35:32] foreign

[2:35:33] counts

[2:35:36] we have a just a plumber and he's under

[2:35:40] the commercial accounts that's

[2:35:42] management position so it's marked for a

[2:35:45] four percent increase for the salary so

[2:35:47] we go from 79 to 96 82 468.

[2:35:51] [Music]

[2:35:54] that gentleman's longevity will stay the

[2:35:57] same it doesn't get any mood allowance

[2:36:00] 250 so pretty much the support services

[2:36:04] also stay the same I've done 1250

[2:36:09] and there was no equipment

[2:36:13] late

[2:36:19] increase that for the total commercial

[2:36:21] accounts the water Administration went

[2:36:23] from 87 696 to 91 368 and especially all

[2:36:28] the salary right and which is called the

[2:36:31] contractions any question on that

[2:36:33] section

[2:36:36] Reservoir a landscaping if you

[2:36:39] anticipate that if you go up slightly

[2:36:40] because labor rates are going up that

[2:36:42] isn't outside on contractors that comes

[2:36:44] in and does that so I am asking for an

[2:36:48] extra 2500 and then repairs for the

[2:36:51] reservoir we do has electronic equipment

[2:36:52] there and different things Gates

[2:36:54] different doors alarm systems there any

[2:36:57] professionally woke me up again at four

[2:36:59] o'clock yesterday morning so

[2:37:02] um had a police came from

[2:37:04] I'm asking for just a slight fifty

[2:37:06] dollars because there's some of the

[2:37:08] essentials in the line up there

[2:37:12] for 14 000 to 16 750 for um social

[2:37:17] Supply reservoir from other expenses

[2:37:21] the pumping it's the water wells

[2:37:24] um

[2:37:24] [Music]

[2:37:26] Staffing there there's one vacant

[2:37:29] position currently the senior water

[2:37:30] treatment plant operator is vacant

[2:37:33] um we did put in a um we do have a water

[2:37:38] treatment operator now

[2:37:40] we've had a trainee there that is filled

[2:37:43] water treatment manager

[2:37:46] um that is a half time between the

[2:37:49] switch streamer plant and the water

[2:37:52] um

[2:37:53] and the other new position that his

[2:37:56] request is the instrumentation

[2:37:58] specialist the one thing that we've seen

[2:38:01] now with technology is the upgrades with

[2:38:04] the ball field that's going on and the

[2:38:06] three new walls going in all new

[2:38:08] software all this data will be in phase

[2:38:10] two

[2:38:12] also sort of coincide because the other

[2:38:14] half is

[2:38:15] doing all utilities

[2:38:18] [Music]

[2:38:20] because of all the students that's

[2:38:22] involved with the new pump stations and

[2:38:24] the wastewater treatment plant it's just

[2:38:26] somebody who works strictly on scada

[2:38:28] software goes into the program

[2:38:31] um you know we currently

[2:38:34] we have to call a specialist and our

[2:38:37] equipment is critical and these people

[2:38:39] are not available

[2:38:44] midnight

[2:38:48] memories coming nobody's coming here

[2:38:50] Monday morning

[2:38:51] um so the way technology is

[2:38:55] I really feel it's critical that we look

[2:38:57] at putting a qualified person in it and

[2:38:59] work on all this software and all this

[2:39:01] data and

[2:39:04] it seems like the position when you meet

[2:39:06] somebody you need somebody I think we

[2:39:08] can't run yeah yeah I mean you deserve

[2:39:10] to come to specialize but it may be very

[2:39:12] specialized that these are people who

[2:39:14] write the programs for all this for the

[2:39:16] alarms do these alarms go not only to

[2:39:18] the board but they go to the wastewater

[2:39:19] treatment plant and the water level from

[2:39:21] the reservoir from the pump stations and

[2:39:23] go to phones now

[2:39:29] that person's pictures taken before they

[2:39:30] go through the gate they can't get in

[2:39:32] they have to call me I could open paid

[2:39:34] remotely for my phone wherever I am

[2:39:36] after I take the picture it's getting

[2:39:38] very um technical now and um

[2:39:44] you have to call people and we call

[2:39:46] people you know what happens

[2:39:48] it's expensive and it's when they can

[2:39:50] get there

[2:39:52] so excuse me so it's only a half time

[2:39:54] position no no half is salary because he

[2:39:57] would work a little bit because there's

[2:39:59] unusual honor and in stores instead of

[2:40:01] half would be split um

[2:40:05] mm-hmm

[2:40:06] [Music]

[2:40:12] so the you know total administrative

[2:40:14] salaries is 284 257 and

[2:40:17] it went down because we have a vacant

[2:40:19] position but when I went down slightly

[2:40:22] to 280 3 15.

[2:40:25] so there's a slight

[2:40:27] decrease there

[2:40:33] total support uh longevity because we

[2:40:36] have new employees they're they're um

[2:40:40] there is no longevity because they've

[2:40:43] been employees there that are new so

[2:40:45] there's a 22.95 savings

[2:40:48] um obviously because of the reduced

[2:40:50] reduction in the salaries because

[2:40:52] there's no employees over time is down

[2:40:54] on on them and um

[2:40:57] 21 276 to 17 500

[2:41:01] .

[2:41:01] um

[2:41:03] the stand might pay that's the two

[2:41:05] phones associated with that

[2:41:08] in you know them being on call

[2:41:11] and shift differential and we look at

[2:41:15] stacking it a little differently but

[2:41:17] there is 250 there somebody has to win

[2:41:19] the evening

[2:41:20] in a while and the Uniform Rental

[2:41:23] allowance is their work boots and uh

[2:41:27] miscellaneous some equipment they might

[2:41:29] need logs and different things

[2:41:34] but overall that went down you look at

[2:41:36] total support and other salaries from 27

[2:41:38] 971 to 23 750.

[2:41:42] foreign

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[2:42:05] other things we expect them to go up at

[2:42:08] least three percent so we are looking at

[2:42:11] um you know an increase of from 226 000

[2:42:15] to 282 000 in the chemicals and another

[2:42:20] increase would be about 28 some thousand

[2:42:22] dollars with regards to um light power

[2:42:24] and gas

[2:42:26] um to run the wells

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[2:42:29] and repairs um we do we are putting

[2:42:34] three new walls in but they're not

[2:42:35] anticipated to be done in 23 maybe

[2:42:38] towards the engine so the wells we do

[2:42:40] have they are getting old obviously

[2:42:43] that's why we're putting in three so the

[2:42:45] motors do get tired so

[2:42:47] slight increase in the repair line to

[2:42:50] keep everything going there from sixty

[2:42:52] two thousand to seventy two thousand ten

[2:42:54] thousand dollars more one of those

[2:42:55] Motors just to rewind them and we take

[2:42:57] them out is about five thousand dollars

[2:42:59] just rewind one motor you know the cost of taking that we

[2:43:04] can't take it out they're 300 horsepower

[2:43:06] motor so we have another credit union

[2:43:11] Power and Gas I guess the ghost for

[2:43:14] everybody but

[2:43:15] I mean they're talking 20 30 increase at

[2:43:19] all in this we didn't know that and so none of those numbers are realistic

[2:43:23] we got a whole

[2:43:26] um you know

[2:43:27] I mean you know how you know

[2:43:30] I mean it's not just for you it's across

[2:43:33] the board it's you know how do you plan

[2:43:34] for you know everything

[2:43:37] right

[2:43:47] any questions

[2:43:49] all right let's move to a water

[2:43:51] distribution

[2:43:52] one of the solution we have the water um

[2:43:55] the water uh water and sewer

[2:43:58] superintendent

[2:43:59] um he split his he split his time

[2:44:02] between water and sewered 50 50

[2:44:05] um four percent increase based on

[2:44:06] management recommendation for 45 852

[2:44:11] and then we do have a water and sewer

[2:44:13] maintenance supervisor that is a CSEA

[2:44:15] position so that does blow up based on

[2:44:18] the contractual obligations

[2:44:20] there

[2:44:23] [Music]

[2:44:25] overtime slight increase from 13 to 16 5

[2:44:29] again we cover the salary increase

[2:44:34] [Music]

[2:44:35] slight increase from 52 to 65 because

[2:44:38] salaries have increased

[2:44:40] um

[2:44:41] he had a great all follows the same suit

[2:44:44] yeah somebody more money on an hourly

[2:44:47] basis a motor equipment operator the

[2:44:50] Phillips stayed the same one heavy

[2:44:53] equipment operator

[2:44:54] one senior water maintenance worker

[2:44:58] um and we have a um eight water

[2:45:01] maintenance done

[2:45:02] one that's perfect so someone worked out

[2:45:05] with any other but they all have CBS

[2:45:07] including the senior water maintenance

[2:45:09] worker and those are filled right

[2:45:12] yeah yes we have no openings right now

[2:45:15] okay

[2:45:20] rolling materials slight increase the

[2:45:25] water department you know they don't use

[2:45:27] as much Road materials as the street

[2:45:29] department

[2:45:30] and if we really need some the street

[2:45:32] departments coming off the last episode

[2:45:36] motor vehicle repairs I did drop that

[2:45:40] um you know if you look at 21 enough

[2:45:42] 3200 22 I don't you know I'm not going

[2:45:45] to spend the 10. so I did Drop That by

[2:45:48] seven thousand dollars based on the

[2:45:50] current year to dates

[2:45:53] um water main repair 35 to 38 750.

[2:45:58] you know that's because pipe different

[2:46:00] materials are coming up a little bit in

[2:46:02] price

[2:46:03] and again fuel oil increase you don't

[2:46:06] have a big budget there but a slight

[2:46:07] increase of about fifteen hundred

[2:46:09] dollars

[2:46:17] it's total water distribution 9 15 397

[2:46:20] for 22 adopt a budget versus 947 470

[2:46:23] requests for the 23s

[2:46:25] that Phil's being the same at 11.5

[2:46:33] [Music]

[2:46:36] any questions

[2:46:40] you just want to run through benefits

[2:46:44] are pretty much uh obviously from the

[2:46:48] last few years uh we have a little we

[2:46:53] made a secret life adjustment to uh in

[2:46:55] the hospitalization because it's trying

[2:46:57] to uh you know work to get the numbers

[2:46:59] some better better numbers look down a

[2:47:01] little bit

[2:47:03] our

[2:47:05] debt Services received went down just a

[2:47:08] little bit again we haven't borrowed

[2:47:10] money we've been using uh Reserves

[2:47:13] and we're trying to figure out how

[2:47:15] everything

[2:47:16] and the back end

[2:47:19] um some of the bigger increases of

[2:47:21] unallocated Insurance of the 105 000.

[2:47:24] that's sort of liability and stuff like

[2:47:28] that that's just because of regular

[2:47:30] entries infrastructure repairs yeah uh

[2:47:33] we increase that by 326 000 because it's

[2:47:36] all up

[2:47:37] wants to be able to not worry about that

[2:47:40] uh you know because we don't borrow

[2:47:41] money for repairs we want to budget it

[2:47:44] so we can use it so those things like

[2:47:47] lining when we have a sewer line that um

[2:47:49] it's cracked but it's not Beyond

[2:47:53] to the point that we need to replace it

[2:47:55] what we do is weigh it they do is full

[2:47:58] of stock from one man helps another they

[2:48:00] put Steam in and It Coats the pipe and

[2:48:03] seals all the cracks so

[2:48:05] um

[2:48:06] so are the old water wells would that be

[2:48:10] part of those repairs as well maybe or

[2:48:12] no it's a different no I mean that would

[2:48:16] be a different route

[2:48:17] to a big problem because the water wells

[2:48:19] where the maintenance of the repairs were we

[2:48:23] could always use that because it's still

[2:48:25] allocated for water

[2:48:26] but it's it's the water okay gotcha

[2:48:30] thank you we were just uh the amount of

[2:48:33] transfer general fund uh the reason why

[2:48:36] we put it back to where it was done in

[2:48:39] 2019-2020 we increased it and uh during

[2:48:43] the coverage years only to help the

[2:48:46] general fund but we were reduced it back

[2:48:49] to help the to keep the water pump back

[2:48:53] uh to you know so it's not more

[2:48:56] efficiently

[2:48:57] to the Social Security

[2:49:01] that's what's going on

[2:49:03] or not they got something yeah

[2:49:07] I know that's going on tonight

[2:49:09] I thought they were yeah which no

[2:49:13] exactly you're saying is actually uh the

[2:49:15] pay the payments yeah

[2:49:21] all right any question on this section

[2:49:23] go ahead

[2:49:25] so I'm gonna find out to talk a lot

[2:49:27] because uh my breakfast

[2:49:32] look that increase is very specific

[2:49:36] I know you mentioned the one individual

[2:49:39] issue

[2:49:40] is this addressing a singular concern

[2:49:42] information

[2:49:49] there's a

[2:49:51] you know you can have something in a

[2:49:52] piece of service on repairs but there's

[2:49:54] a lot of water lines that they need

[2:49:56] we can't handle ourselves because

[2:49:57] they're too deep in the construction

[2:49:59] repairs because if we have to call on a

[2:50:01] private contractor we can utilize those

[2:50:02] funds

[2:50:04] um you know we we can't dig Beyond 11

[2:50:06] feet we don't have the equipment so if

[2:50:09] there's an emergency

[2:50:11] you know that my computer surgery is

[2:50:13] there and again it's just if we're doing

[2:50:17] some maintenance we do insert valves

[2:50:19] which our new style valve where

[2:50:22] we have an area we know we don't have a

[2:50:24] good shutdown

[2:50:25] um we're gonna put an insert valves and

[2:50:27] we get the whole prep for them the

[2:50:29] company comes in and they put a valve in

[2:50:31] without any um loss of water they don't

[2:50:34] shut down any water because it also done

[2:50:36] wide under pressure

[2:50:38] and we get all the prep work we dig the

[2:50:41] hole we get it all ready for them and

[2:50:42] they come in and search up in right

[2:50:53] no cheap repairs so

[2:50:57] um when we're done with our arpa

[2:51:01] decisions and things if there's money we

[2:51:04] can always give it to you yeah

[2:51:07] instead of having to put it in the

[2:51:09] budget

[2:51:11] [Music]

[2:51:20] Revenue

[2:51:39] [Music]

[2:51:45] um

[2:51:50] invented story increase

[2:51:55] [Music]

[2:51:59] the wastewater treatment plant so um

[2:52:02] some of the summary increases and I

[2:52:04] don't have the numbers coming out Tony

[2:52:05] Scott I think yeah uh they were a great

[2:52:07] improve some average single-family home

[2:52:09] is about 24 25 24 cents a year about the

[2:52:14] seven cents a day

[2:52:15] increases the meter in City uh would go

[2:52:19] up uh

[2:52:21] it's a seven percent increase uh or

[2:52:24] we're talking a vision a gallon that

[2:52:27] decreases by 141 000 gives us a total

[2:52:30] increase of 773 000. now you've got to

[2:52:34] remember that you know like I said we

[2:52:36] haven't increased the rates in four

[2:52:37] years but this is we have to increase

[2:52:39] these because we're about uh to get our

[2:52:42] debt for the wastewater treatment plant

[2:52:45] and the North ferry Street Pump Station

[2:52:47] we're talking about 57 million dollars

[2:52:49] in the enforcement enforcement too again

[2:52:52] so we're looking at a total like about

[2:52:54] 15 million dollars that and that's and

[2:52:57] that's that zero percent interest

[2:52:59] but we still have to pay that back so

[2:53:02] we're looking at 58 million dollars so

[2:53:04] this increases uh helping out the

[2:53:07] for the store content to go ahead and

[2:53:10] start paying on that

[2:53:15] perception slides your program is doing

[2:53:17] well

[2:53:18] um I anticipate at least three quarters

[2:53:20] of a million dollars for 22 anticipate

[2:53:23] meaning the um you know we got the

[2:53:25] budget in an increase in 23 to 850 000.

[2:53:30] so

[2:53:35] Industrial Waste Your charges are down

[2:53:38] Recycling and that's mostly because one

[2:53:40] of the industries can deal with its

[2:53:42] interest rates has put in a free

[2:53:44] computer system so um

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[2:53:47] so we we don't we don't get that weight

[2:53:54] [Music]

[2:53:56] expected to go down

[2:54:00] lab analysis will come up slightly

[2:54:04] um

[2:54:05] they have a neighboring Community who

[2:54:07] has asked us to take care of their water

[2:54:08] samples we're actually giving them a

[2:54:10] price

[2:54:12] so do some water samples for them

[2:54:19] any questions

[2:54:21] [Music]

[2:54:28] sanitary sewers administrative salaries

[2:54:30] pretty much stayed the same and filled

[2:54:32] still 2.5 we have an ips3 it will move

[2:54:37] up based on CSEA we have a

[2:54:39] superintendent water sewer that again

[2:54:41] he's split between water and and Sewer

[2:54:45] at 50 which is the four percent

[2:54:47] recommended increase for management and

[2:54:51] then we have the water sort of

[2:54:52] Maintenance supervisor who is a csca so

[2:54:55] there is a increase in their base

[2:54:57] contractual so the increase for the

[2:54:59] salaries is based on salary increases

[2:55:01] contractually

[2:55:04] um support other staff

[2:55:06] site increases with longevity

[2:55:10] as people would be different thresholds

[2:55:14] overtime again slight increase in the

[2:55:16] CSEA members are going up

[2:55:18] um

[2:55:20] standby pay again slight increases

[2:55:24] out of grade it's the same thing as if

[2:55:27] they're working on a grade they're

[2:55:27] getting the higher rates that are even

[2:55:29] higher now

[2:55:30] shift differential

[2:55:32] goes up as a stand for the sewer staff

[2:55:35] works the winnerships lights they split

[2:55:38] it with the streets so they're part of

[2:55:40] the crew that goes on the night shifts

[2:55:43] um

[2:55:43] the meos we have kept the same pills

[2:55:47] there is a heavy equipment operator

[2:55:51] which is a

[2:55:53] going up contractually system 2598 64

[2:55:56] 476 16 meos or seweraneous workers

[2:56:02] retractual raises and a what we call the

[2:56:06] CCTV operator who runs A CTV camera and

[2:56:10] it was also um you know contractual csca

[2:56:15] and heard me in overtime you can spend

[2:56:18] as much as I think I'm 21 I don't think

[2:56:21] we're going to spend as much as 22 so I

[2:56:23] kept it the same particular overtime

[2:56:27] tools and uniforms are good allowances

[2:56:30] 48.75

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[2:56:34] no equipment or recommendations

[2:56:37] administrative

[2:56:39] expenses it's 873 000 fees for services

[2:56:43] these copiers different things that we

[2:56:45] use slightly up about

[2:56:48] twelve thousand seven hundred dollars

[2:56:50] and twenty two two eighty six thirty

[2:56:52] five thousand uh slight increases

[2:56:57] um the biggest one would be Road

[2:56:58] materials for 78

[2:57:00] 000.21 million spent 46.

[2:57:04] um so I do anticipation I mean you know

[2:57:07] quite a bit more for 22 because

[2:57:09] everything went up

[2:57:11] um

[2:57:11] and then any 23 they'll still go home

[2:57:15] it dropped the vehicle repair line to 21

[2:57:18] 000 because we haven't been spending as

[2:57:19] much it's been going into the Fleet

[2:57:21] Maintenance budget so they dropped up

[2:57:23] slightly from 21.5 to 15.5 uh fuel oil

[2:57:27] and grease

[2:57:29] um 21 was forty one thousand dollars I

[2:57:31] did increase it to 45

[2:57:34] you know inflation on the factor

[2:57:37] um

[2:57:38] emergency sewer repair they put we did

[2:57:41] have 18 000 and 21 there was nothing in

[2:57:43] 22

[2:57:45] but I've

[2:57:46] requested twenty thousand dollars for

[2:57:48] emergency sewer repair

[2:57:50] um

[2:57:52] safety supplies and equipment it's

[2:57:54] mostly for the equipment that you guys

[2:57:56] use you know setups for cut off um pipes

[2:58:00] and the whole gloves different things

[2:58:02] maybe 500 for the safety supplies

[2:58:05] um

[2:58:07] so the overall budget for their Phil

[2:58:10] state is saying at 20.5

[2:58:12] from 1.493 to 456 to 1.573 857.

[2:58:18] the majority of that is you know on

[2:58:21] salaries

[2:58:23] any question on this section

[2:58:26] okay okay

[2:58:27] [Music]

[2:58:30] this is shooting disposal

[2:58:33] um

[2:58:35] the fills Changed by um say from 6.1 to

[2:58:39] 6.6 and that is mostly because of the

[2:58:43] Deputy commission is 0.3 I do have a

[2:58:47] vacant position in there as the

[2:58:48] maintenance manager

[2:58:50] there is that is a vacant position and

[2:58:53] you know I'm hoping to get that filled

[2:58:56] for hopefully by the end of this year 23

[2:59:00] and then the instrumentation specialist

[2:59:02] is the other half of body from the water

[2:59:05] to work on the scada systems for forty

[2:59:09] seven thousand five hundred

[2:59:10] and that came up that number because

[2:59:12] when they were doing the work at the

[2:59:14] pump station I sort of acquired that

[2:59:16] what these guys make

[2:59:18] um and that's how I got for that number

[2:59:22] did you say it was the director of water

[2:59:24] and wastewater that's unfilled no it's

[2:59:27] the maintenance manage

[2:59:28] oh okay thank you until it's 74 4.

[2:59:31] gotcha thank you

[2:59:38] longevity up

[2:59:41] um

[2:59:42] okay that's more you know probably

[2:59:44] because of the commercial ogs comes in

[2:59:47] there

[2:59:48] um stay in my page slightly increase as

[2:59:51] the salary increases

[2:59:54] the shift differential

[2:59:56] um you know did go up slightly one

[2:59:58] contraction went up so you do we win 24

[3:00:01] 7 at police Water Treatment Plant so

[3:00:03] there's a 24 operation

[3:00:06] the

[3:00:08] per game over time

[3:00:11] is is up slightly again because of the

[3:00:15] Ring increases the number of fills for

[3:00:19] operators and that's that

[3:00:21] it's gone up slightly I am requesting a

[3:00:25] second maintenance manager or a second

[3:00:28] maintenance technician

[3:00:30] and a another AG lab technician we're

[3:00:35] getting very busy in the lab

[3:00:37] and with the new pump station the new

[3:00:40] all-day editions of the plant and we've

[3:00:43] been running with just you know two one

[3:00:46] sort of maintenance tech one and one

[3:00:48] maintenance type two it's it's done when

[3:00:50] somebody's on vacation information out

[3:00:52] especially when you're running 24 7 the

[3:00:54] operation of things wear out

[3:00:56] um

[3:00:57] the need for another maintenance person

[3:00:59] is is critical in our lab staff

[3:01:04] we are having somebody retire and they

[3:01:06] put their paperwork in for January 17th

[3:01:09] um

[3:01:10] they have not given a lab exam in two

[3:01:13] years

[3:01:14] um

[3:01:15] and our livestock work seven days a week

[3:01:17] so they rotate weekends

[3:01:19] um it's getting hard you know on the

[3:01:22] staff because and they work holidays

[3:01:24] where there's they're there seven days a

[3:01:26] week whether it's Christmas New Year's

[3:01:28] it doesn't matter so we have to be there

[3:01:30] so we need to start splitting some

[3:01:32] things up and

[3:01:33] with the retirement of one getting

[3:01:36] somebody trained getting them proficient

[3:01:37] to pass their state proficiencies be a

[3:01:40] laptop and the other things

[3:01:42] waiting for the civil service exam to

[3:01:44] actually pass that stay in the position

[3:01:46] too so okay well

[3:01:49] recommending another lab tech

[3:01:52] [Music]

[3:01:56] can you request an exam pardon can you

[3:01:59] request the ticket yeah

[3:02:01] for president it's just when they feel

[3:02:04] like

[3:02:09] hopefully soon because the advice sort

[3:02:12] of an unblock you know they've been

[3:02:14] there they're they've faster your

[3:02:16] proficiencies from the state but you

[3:02:18] know you're really going to get the

[3:02:20] civil service exam

[3:02:22] so that's you know the biggest increase

[3:02:24] there is the salary from 463 668 to 525

[3:02:28] 749.

[3:02:32] um

[3:02:35] any questions

[3:02:37] [Music]

[3:02:41] and I'm sorry that was the previous

[3:02:43] challenge

[3:02:47] got it we got it we got it yeah

[3:02:52] they called me through the alarm clock

[3:02:54] this morning

[3:02:56] foreign

[3:03:19] [Music]

[3:03:24] three percent or so

[3:03:27] chlorine is just undetermined what it's

[3:03:29] going to be we're paying more now than

[3:03:32] we were even at the beginning of the

[3:03:35] year because it was just a

[3:03:36] chain of supply

[3:03:40] [Music]

[3:03:41] fees and permits volunteers remediations

[3:03:43] is the same again when we get down to

[3:03:46] light Power and Gas another increase

[3:03:48] from 315 875 to 347. and the big one

[3:03:53] would be our sliding calling inquiry

[3:03:56] I see that as being a big increase we're

[3:04:00] not going to see it all in 23 because my

[3:04:02] current contract gets me through June

[3:04:04] after that

[3:04:07] um we're up in here we're currently

[3:04:09] paying about a hundred and Seventeen

[3:04:12] dollars a ton Hall sludge dispose of it

[3:04:15] um I can tell you something interesting

[3:04:17] learning communities are paying in

[3:04:18] excess of 145 to 150

[3:04:21] um so our contract is good you know you

[3:04:25] said until until June through June but

[3:04:28] it'll have to go up to bid

[3:04:30] um

[3:04:30] probably right around the end of January

[3:04:32] beginning of February if you get

[3:04:34] somebody you know on board to start

[3:04:35] playing architect

[3:04:37] um

[3:04:39] we do roughly between nine around nine

[3:04:42] ten thousand tons a year

[3:04:44] I think

[3:04:46] a question

[3:04:49] all right it's the benefits are

[3:04:51] straightforward everything together I

[3:04:53] think you never use the rest on this

[3:04:56] everything is pretty much the same uh

[3:04:59] those

[3:05:00] um

[3:05:02] uh increases at that service and again

[3:05:06] that's because of the

[3:05:08] oh

[3:05:09] the DFC estimates uh so so in 2023

[3:05:15] actually it should be okay

[3:05:21] [Music]

[3:05:23] an allocated Insurance went up about 50 000 that's basically for the

[3:05:30] um

[3:05:30] flood insurance for the old the

[3:05:34] increase in the funniest restaurant

[3:05:39] that's over 37 000 hours a year

[3:05:53] so the total budget assaulted total

[3:05:55] store budgets on an increase by three

[3:05:57] point four seconds

[3:05:59] of everything standard

[3:06:03] and you also have a line here for

[3:06:05] yourself

[3:06:05] [Music]

[3:06:07] you know covers us but some of the you

[3:06:10] know unforeseen sewer repairs we have to

[3:06:12] do

[3:06:13] and that you know

[3:06:16] um infrastructibility

[3:06:19] any questions on this question

[3:06:22] capital

[3:06:28] and he reads when I printed the budget

[3:06:30] Capital but I'll know what they are as

[3:06:32] soon as you should say

[3:06:34] here's um I have an extra copy well

[3:06:37] we'll be back because that's the street

[3:06:38] repairs but it has your stuff on it too

[3:06:44] probably

[3:06:53] park space program management

[3:06:55] um requesting another one-time pickup

[3:06:58] little child actually two of them at 65

[3:07:01] 000 to replace an oral we're still

[3:07:03] running some of the old 10 year old 12

[3:07:06] year old Dodge trucks um they're just

[3:07:08] worn out they're tired

[3:07:10] um and again

[3:07:12] this is for this is for 23.

[3:07:15] we can't order 22s until 23. so I don't

[3:07:19] know you know more than two years

[3:07:20] together yeah so and this is coming out of

[3:07:24] capital right now

[3:07:25] um yes so we gotta wait till what I mean

[3:07:27] hey fun so it'll be May yeah okay yeah

[3:07:32] so we'll be down I thought we'd have the

[3:07:35] trucks from 22 by now

[3:07:37] we're not going to have the 22s till

[3:07:39] sometime into the mid

[3:07:41] 23 in order to leave until after May 23.

[3:07:45] so we still gotta

[3:07:48] and they are other vehicles together

[3:07:50] yeah

[3:07:54] and you know a six-wheel dump truck with

[3:07:57] a plow and a spreader

[3:07:59] um you know what that is is can we do

[3:08:01] all all the aprons and everything in the

[3:08:04] PD and also the fire departments with a

[3:08:06] smaller Spider Truck the six wheel and

[3:08:08] some of the alley weights where the

[3:08:09] bigger trucks can't get in

[3:08:11] um you need six wheel one we had was

[3:08:13] just getting pretty old so

[3:08:20] instantly had requested for the parts

[3:08:22] waste of property management and reasons

[3:08:25] we're like because we share those you

[3:08:27] know yep they work that truck together

[3:08:29] it's not you know not just a park

[3:08:32] structure it'll go into all you know

[3:08:34] three

[3:08:36] waste collection as I said earlier we

[3:08:39] always look for replacing our voters and

[3:08:41] it was looking for four more rear loader

[3:08:43] Packers again

[3:08:44] um

[3:08:45] it's going to be there 250

[3:08:48] 000 roughly a piece so it's a million

[3:08:50] dollars and so in my understanding that

[3:08:52] you've been requesting them

[3:08:59] [Music]

[3:09:08] they've been working good one of the

[3:09:10] things yeah with these vehicles and you

[3:09:13] know this is talking from some of the

[3:09:15] other ways they like them because

[3:09:18] you get them with 10 000 miles or

[3:09:20] something they've worked the bugs out

[3:09:22] already yeah yeah all the you know the

[3:09:24] bugs from the new vehicle has been

[3:09:25] worked out so before we got you know

[3:09:29] this year I've been working very well

[3:09:31] and we're looking to do the same thing

[3:09:35] for that year yep

[3:09:38] and I didn't know if this is coming out

[3:09:40] of um

[3:09:42] when you call May or okay or what we

[3:09:45] could do like we did last year if you

[3:09:46] requested up front

[3:09:48] so we'll get it to be connected to get

[3:09:51] them right away okay

[3:09:52] [Music]

[3:09:55] you know sometimes I'm going to be

[3:09:57] usually save a little bit of money

[3:10:01] next Parts going in the streets the

[3:10:04] streets yeah one a one-time dump truck

[3:10:06] with a plow

[3:10:08] it's not the one that Anthony sent us

[3:10:10] afterwards it's not um it's in our

[3:10:12] binder so it's okay

[3:10:15] a one-time dump truck at 110 000 replace

[3:10:18] one of our old ones a 10 wheel dump

[3:10:21] truck again it's 275 000 and a craft

[3:10:24] called Patrick tube for um for travel

[3:10:27] and craft elevation unit that melts up

[3:10:29] in the winter for us because we can't

[3:10:31] get you know we can't get blackout we

[3:10:33] can't get down before any layer so the

[3:10:34] crack coin machine I take the we call

[3:10:37] the barrels it melts them and it puts a

[3:10:40] guitar down and it lasts it actually

[3:10:42] lasts

[3:10:43] you know it's like black that's cool you

[3:10:46] only want one of those huh

[3:10:48] yeah

[3:10:50] we have one machine that uh this

[3:10:53] company's closed each material for us

[3:10:55] that we started during the day so um

[3:11:07] six copies

[3:11:18] just kind of hard

[3:11:20] all right sorry keep going it was a wow

[3:11:22] that was it that was where the three

[3:11:24] requests for the street department

[3:11:26] totaling uh 455 thousand dollars

[3:11:31] um

[3:11:33] let's go to water the parts was part of

[3:11:36] the um

[3:11:38] [Music]

[3:11:41] okay

[3:11:44] [Music]

[3:11:49] because well the park share is coming

[3:11:51] under general for engineering we need to

[3:11:52] bring that up probably tomorrow for you

[3:11:53] yeah Chris he saw the parts yeah okay

[3:11:59] yes okay

[3:12:02] so water yes water

[3:12:05] the uh the reservoir the concrete series

[3:12:08] The Reservoir are are shot um we looked

[3:12:11] at this a few years ago

[3:12:13] this came in very high

[3:12:15] so you just postponed it but they're

[3:12:19] getting they're not improving obviously

[3:12:20] so um probably work with Chris on wall

[3:12:23] and see if an engineering there's if

[3:12:25] there's something else we can do rather

[3:12:26] than

[3:12:27] put the sidewalls up in the lane walls

[3:12:29] just do it instead of steps so but there

[3:12:32] are

[3:12:33] 42 steps what was it I think we did it

[3:12:36] three years ago was 400 000 yeah and

[3:12:39] there's got to be a different way of

[3:12:41] doing it um that's not as you know

[3:12:44] costly so I think we might be able to do

[3:12:47] something without putting the walls in

[3:12:48] different things and just putting steps

[3:12:51] with him some steps so so but there are

[3:12:55] what if we didn't do it and you just

[3:12:57] have to use the driveway

[3:13:07] they go up there and there might be

[3:13:10] something we could do

[3:13:12] to put a driver there you know and you

[3:13:16] just have to look at what we can do for

[3:13:18] um you know why didn't have to be a

[3:13:20] daily gravel record

[3:13:22] a pressure one or even Millions

[3:13:24] um you know I can talk to Chris and see

[3:13:27] but you know I postponed it years ago

[3:13:29] just because it was just a lot and it's

[3:13:34] the steps are fun

[3:13:36] it's the wind walls it looks like we did

[3:13:39] as years ago they took the bridge and we

[3:13:40] covered them and um it's the wing wants

[3:13:44] to fall apart I don't know if there's a

[3:13:46] way to remove them you just put

[3:13:47] handrails on yeah

[3:13:51] um

[3:13:52] well obviously the pumping the ball

[3:13:55] Field improvements are there for the

[3:13:56] three walls of 12 million 500 000 but I know where I know if we're looking to

[3:14:01] use any Arbor money there or it's all

[3:14:03] going to come out but we do have some I

[3:14:05] know that we're

[3:14:10] safe

[3:14:15] but I'm this is my opinion here I know

[3:14:18] that we're going to get money back from

[3:14:19] some of these things I would say instead

[3:14:21] of going out and borrowing 6.5 million

[3:14:24] this is a project that we have going on

[3:14:26] now this is a project that uh that's

[3:14:29] going to be finished by the other 20.3

[3:14:31] it's a hundred percent our thing that's

[3:14:34] actually put in a Wells for people in

[3:14:36] so I just put it in for you to to think

[3:14:39] about the 6.59 because you know we did

[3:14:42] we do have uh uh approval tomorrow that

[3:14:45] money has became twice to borrow 13

[3:14:48] million but then we have to pay the

[3:14:49] interesting stuff yeah

[3:14:52] you know if we can think about using

[3:14:55] some of the that money you have to pay

[3:14:56] for it this is a project that will be

[3:14:58] done within a year so we're getting

[3:15:00] going there's there's and I think I

[3:15:03] mentioned it when I when I came to you

[3:15:04] for the for the bond but there's 12

[3:15:06] volts there were 12 Wells over time as

[3:15:09] they're over 50 years old they've you

[3:15:11] know they're not working so from the 12

[3:15:13] walls that were originally put in years

[3:15:15] ago there are eight working walls and

[3:15:17] example in this not whether it came this

[3:15:19] past summer we were running six volts so

[3:15:22] it doesn't give us a lot of redundancy

[3:15:24] if we lose it well I mean they're

[3:15:26] running

[3:15:27] um so

[3:15:28] um to get back in at least getting three

[3:15:30] Wells and it gets us back up and the

[3:15:32] wells have already been drilled and

[3:15:34] they're very productive they're roughly

[3:15:36] 3 000 gallons a minute so you'll get

[3:15:38] three oils are pretty nine thousand

[3:15:39] Nails emitted into a pipe that's a lot

[3:15:42] of water so

[3:15:44] and you know the second phase will be

[3:15:46] bit out

[3:15:47] actually we're meeting with them next

[3:15:49] week

[3:15:50] um we broke that up so that we could

[3:15:52] maximize the grant opportunities there

[3:15:54] so

[3:15:55] um let's say phase will go help um

[3:15:58] probably within I would say probably

[3:16:02] mid November hopefully ends in November

[3:16:05] um do you have any updates on the

[3:16:07] federal infrastructure funding is there

[3:16:11] any movement of that

[3:16:12] nothing because we're working with our

[3:16:16] uh they're working with our Engineers to

[3:16:18] let us project too because we're

[3:16:20] expecting some money yeah

[3:16:23] I'm just saying in recap when I would in

[3:16:26] my mind if we have this money available

[3:16:28] let's set a borrow it use it so you can

[3:16:31] get grants that's even better I don't

[3:16:33] even love that you know

[3:16:35] but I'm just I'm thinking never went

[3:16:38] back to it

[3:16:40] I just want to put that in the back of

[3:16:42] your head forward

[3:16:46] Water distributor repair improvements

[3:16:47] 350 000 we all know water breaks cost us

[3:16:52] a lot of money

[3:16:53] um we can spend 350 000 on one group a

[3:16:56] good example was the break that happened

[3:16:57] over by the bridge on Craig Street

[3:17:01] um I think that was probably a million

[3:17:03] dollars

[3:17:04] so

[3:17:06] one Break um and that was that was a

[3:17:09] 30-inch one yep

[3:17:13] sorry requesting the bank hold for the

[3:17:15] water from 1980 000

[3:17:17] um that code is um it's age now it's seen its life um so we already

[3:17:23] pressing the new back over with an

[3:17:24] extended goal so we get a little bit

[3:17:26] deeper

[3:17:27] um and then there's a water main

[3:17:29] installation for a Golf Road uh to the

[3:17:31] muni Maintenance building for three

[3:17:32] hundred thousand dollars preserves a

[3:17:35] water main that you'd like to bring in

[3:17:36] from Park Avenue into the new

[3:17:38] maintenance garage and uh the um

[3:17:42] the proposed Pump House

[3:17:46] it would be an eight inch main going on

[3:17:49] so as you see a total will be looking at

[3:17:51] 13 million 830 000. we are free we are

[3:17:56] expecting to get 6 million federal state

[3:17:58] grants

[3:17:59] I have that little accident here for rfo

[3:18:02] for 6.5 million keep that back in line

[3:18:04] and the other uh one million if we are

[3:18:07] 30 000 we're going to use uh reserves

[3:18:09] again so we're trying to avoid final

[3:18:12] money if we can

[3:18:13] big sense

[3:18:15] [Music]

[3:18:18] any questions on this

[3:18:23] sorry it's quick enough questions

[3:18:26] in this particular but overall so like I

[3:18:29] remember this is some kind of where

[3:18:31] there's a conversation about um like

[3:18:33] water or water main breaks

[3:18:36] um in the city actually

[3:18:39] um

[3:18:39] being able to uh

[3:18:42] perform the task of repairing that for

[3:18:45] homeowners and

[3:18:47] a little unclear on it like I said it

[3:18:50] was some time ago I had this

[3:18:52] conversation but it seemed like if I

[3:18:54] remember correctly that was like

[3:18:56] a point where of increase could possibly

[3:18:59] increase revenue for the city do you

[3:19:00] remember yeah when I first came on as

[3:19:03] director of water and sewer

[3:19:05] um

[3:19:07] right now residents own their laterals

[3:19:09] and their services

[3:19:11] we only own the mean in the road

[3:19:13] um so when there's a service break we

[3:19:15] notified the homeowner and they're

[3:19:17] responsible for the repair if it's not

[3:19:19] made

[3:19:20] unfortunately we have to do a

[3:19:22] termination on the water and then codes

[3:19:24] gets involved because there has to be a

[3:19:26] order debate people there's no there's

[3:19:28] no water so there's no sword to the

[3:19:30] house

[3:19:31] um

[3:19:32] in the small back 10 years now I did do

[3:19:36] a plan a proposal to um

[3:19:38] have City forces and staff take over

[3:19:41] that program lateral at least halfway at

[3:19:44] least maybe to the curb box

[3:19:47] or to the house and there would be a fee

[3:19:50] and you there are companies out there

[3:19:52] that sell this service too as an

[3:19:54] insurance and I looked into that and you

[3:19:57] know if the city had the capabilities

[3:19:59] but going back down they had even more

[3:20:01] staff than we do now and it does come

[3:20:03] down to a staffing machine

[3:20:05] um you know to absorb that but you know

[3:20:09] the revenues you draw in I think it was

[3:20:11] I want to say it was around 60 some

[3:20:13] dollars a year for

[3:20:15] water and maybe 70 some dollars for you

[3:20:18] know sewer I don't know but

[3:20:21] I saw it on my computer back but

[3:20:23] um and I looked at how many

[3:20:26] um permits we were issuing for water

[3:20:28] sewer brakes and tried to judge you know

[3:20:30] based on that and yes if you had a

[3:20:33] normal year of about 100 breaks 150

[3:20:35] breaks there would probably be a surplus

[3:20:40] but again you run the surface because

[3:20:42] the nature maybe you got 250 rings so

[3:20:45] um we did look at it it was not

[3:20:48] something that the council wanted to

[3:20:51] entertain at the time and

[3:20:54] yeah

[3:20:56] that was it

[3:20:57] you know actually get into the Panic

[3:21:00] about how we had issues majority about

[3:21:02] that history but it really bothering you

[3:21:03] was not mentioned as a result

[3:21:05] it paid me six dollars seventy five

[3:21:08] dollars

[3:21:09] for that specific year but the fund

[3:21:11] would not roll over

[3:21:13] balance of the funnel of that roll over

[3:21:15] so whatever if you were to collect five

[3:21:17] hundred thousand dollars a year 2002

[3:21:19] spend 200 000.

[3:21:22] it stays with us so that was not

[3:21:24] discussed no no okay yeah

[3:21:31] yes

[3:21:38] under that scenario we could still if

[3:21:41] our crews couldn't handle it we would

[3:21:43] hire a private contract right so like

[3:21:46] again in that option that we did that we

[3:21:48] didn't have the vampire to do it correct

[3:21:50] then you know or I should say the

[3:21:52] workforce to do it right the week then

[3:21:53] we could look at other options and um I

[3:21:56] think that was the only anal obstacle to

[3:21:58] move forward about it because it's a

[3:22:00] revolving fund or we just have to

[3:22:02] continue to pay into the attend we might

[3:22:04] not get a homeowner might not get a

[3:22:06] break but we always have fun just keep

[3:22:07] disappearing and one of the questions

[3:22:08] came up is you know okay I just had my

[3:22:10] service done

[3:22:21] I just did one why am I going to pay

[3:22:24] this and you know so how do you get some

[3:22:26] people involved some people not

[3:22:28] so it was a little complicated but you

[3:22:30] know it was a you know

[3:22:32] a source to build some some revenue and

[3:22:35] to have a fund so if you had a year

[3:22:36] where you had more grades you had some money to repair those but I went to

[3:22:42] use them to be worth revisiting just to

[3:22:45] see if the numbers

[3:22:46] since you're mentioning we're evolving

[3:22:48] fun now that was a sticking point when

[3:22:50] we discussed it many many years ago

[3:23:04] yeah

[3:23:05] thank you all right okay

[3:23:08] [Music]

[3:23:11] all right

[3:23:14] um

[3:23:22] another 250 000

[3:23:24] um

[3:23:25] [Music]

[3:23:27] whether it's manholes whether it's touch

[3:23:29] basins whether it's Clarence

[3:23:31] um or purchasing the manhole covers in

[3:23:33] the um you know in the actual um

[3:23:36] concrete structures uh 10 wheel dump

[3:23:38] truck so we're division 185 000

[3:23:41] portable CCTV unit we have a big unit

[3:23:45] right now that's on the truck but it'd

[3:23:48] be nice to have a portable unit so we'd

[3:23:51] get in a hole and um you know inspect

[3:23:53] the pipes when we get them open

[3:23:55] road plates um

[3:23:58] 95 000 we use a number of Road plates

[3:24:01] and we're out along the Steel Road

[3:24:03] plates we can't always get to repair

[3:24:05] holes in 10 tonight

[3:24:07] um so we we played that so we come back

[3:24:09] in the morning

[3:24:10] a lot of contractors use them steel roll

[3:24:12] plates so we like to get an inventory of

[3:24:14] Steel World plates to protect our holes

[3:24:16] they also use them for um holding the

[3:24:19] sidewalls in if somebody's working in

[3:24:20] the hole as a trenches

[3:24:23] Craig Street sewer inspection lighting

[3:24:26] and point repairs is a half a million

[3:24:28] dollars that's in part of the Craig main

[3:24:30] project we want to make sure that an

[3:24:34] environment on some of the inspections

[3:24:35] but those repairs need to be made before

[3:24:37] that infrastructure on top of the road

[3:24:40] is done because you don't mind failure

[3:24:42] the infrastructure after you've done all

[3:24:44] the careers right okay so

[3:24:47] um there's um you know 500 000 in there

[3:24:50] same equipment replacement is part of

[3:24:53] the wastewater treatment plant it's

[3:24:55] about 550 000 in assorted miscellaneous

[3:24:59] gearboxes return homes waste forms these

[3:25:03] are things that we all know they don't

[3:25:06] turn off for running 24 hours a day

[3:25:07] seven days a week not in the messed up

[3:25:09] environments

[3:25:11] um

[3:25:12] Southbury Street Pump Station that whole

[3:25:15] conversation needs to be upgraded it's

[3:25:17] getting all the pumps now are

[3:25:20] they're undersized

[3:25:22] um you know we got more and more flow

[3:25:24] coming from different areas of Broadway

[3:25:26] so that compensation needs an upgrade it

[3:25:28] needs new controls it needs new pumps

[3:25:30] may even need more based on on flows

[3:25:35] so we have a lot a lot more you know

[3:25:38] commercial businesses downtown they come

[3:25:41] down Ferry Street

[3:25:43] um you know frog alley and different

[3:25:44] things so the pump station is letting

[3:25:46] you know it gets a lot of wear looks

[3:25:48] like it needs to be upgraded

[3:25:50] um

[3:25:51] the sewage treatment plant River pumps

[3:25:54] um and the controls with a backup

[3:25:56] generator solution plant works on

[3:25:58] gravity so everything that comes in that

[3:26:00] plan Flows In by gravity and flows out

[3:26:02] to the river

[3:26:04] only if the river is flying at the smell

[3:26:06] of elevation as the river comes up

[3:26:08] we can't fall under natural conditions

[3:26:11] so we have four 100 horsepower pumps

[3:26:14] that were put in in 1972 or 73

[3:26:17] that whenever there's a certain

[3:26:20] elevation a gate closes automatically so

[3:26:22] River can't come in and flush the plant

[3:26:24] and then we force feed all the F1 to the

[3:26:28] river and typically that happens during

[3:26:30] storm events so we're typically pumping

[3:26:33] a lot more flow than we would normally

[3:26:34] pump those pumps are like I said they

[3:26:37] would put in 72-73 during the Clean

[3:26:40] Water money available back then and

[3:26:43] there is no backup generator on those so

[3:26:45] if you think about we have a backup

[3:26:47] generator for a plant

[3:26:49] and if that was to fail

[3:26:51] we'd have some issues in the plant

[3:26:53] but if we couldn't pump the water out of

[3:26:55] the plant it might look like that whole

[3:26:57] base in that whole area and she would

[3:26:59] just float and the plant would go

[3:27:01] underwater so making a recommendation

[3:27:04] that um we upgrade those pumps and we

[3:27:07] put in a backup generator that strictly

[3:27:10] is designated to those points in an

[3:27:13] emergency

[3:27:13] um

[3:27:15] and it wouldn't be something that we

[3:27:17] would do we'd probably have to have a

[3:27:19] little money to do a design from a

[3:27:21] consultant too to look at it

[3:27:23] so

[3:27:24] that would be foreign

[3:27:30] ers

[3:27:32] 3.5

[3:27:35] minutes we know from the revenue from

[3:27:37] the student plan almost a million

[3:27:39] dollars comes in almost every year

[3:27:40] because we take in a lot of septage now

[3:27:42] it's been very profitable to the city

[3:27:46] I think we can do better we have a third

[3:27:49] digester I'd like to upgrade that

[3:27:52] digester to be a real active digester

[3:27:54] accident the holding tank right now and

[3:27:58] um you know there's always room to

[3:27:59] expand the brain more Revenue in the

[3:28:02] boiler itself needs to be upgraded

[3:28:03] because the boiler itself is just not

[3:28:05] giving us the heat we need to keep the

[3:28:08] digesters at the 95 degrees they have to

[3:28:10] remain

[3:28:12] to make methane gas so the boiler would

[3:28:16] ride itself it would be dual fuel so if

[3:28:18] you were down but the methane gas we

[3:28:20] produce would run that boiler and heat

[3:28:22] those digesters so okay so that's it for

[3:28:25] everything

[3:28:27] and went on conversation again that

[3:28:29] conversation is you know the second

[3:28:31] largest conversation we have other than

[3:28:33] fair North 3rd Street and it was all

[3:28:36] over Woodlawn Empire State Street area

[3:28:38] um and Kings Road

[3:28:40] um it's it's it's a OS upgrade I think

[3:28:43] we're just in the 80s conversation was

[3:28:47] fun so it's due for a complete overall

[3:28:50] um you know pumps controls thanks

[3:28:53] I mean these are things that are running

[3:28:56] for us all the time

[3:29:00] go ahead so it seemed so the digester

[3:29:04] and the upgrades to the boilers would

[3:29:06] eventually pay for themselves right yeah

[3:29:09] the the the boiler would run on methane

[3:29:14] gas

[3:29:15] um and that methane gas has produced via

[3:29:18] the digesters

[3:29:19] digestion processes such as an anaerobic

[3:29:22] digester um

[3:29:24] no oxygen just makes it creates nothing

[3:29:26] to ask methane gas is siphoned off the

[3:29:29] top it goes up to what we have a bubble

[3:29:31] right now that holds that and it would

[3:29:33] run the boil nut and then that boiler

[3:29:35] Heats itself now in the interim effect

[3:29:38] was to go down

[3:29:40] we still need people to digest redacted

[3:29:42] because digestive attractive pH

[3:29:44] alkalinity everything has to be right

[3:29:46] generator yeah it's biological process

[3:29:49] so the bugs in there have to stay alive

[3:29:52] um

[3:29:53] but we would have a backup you know for

[3:29:55] natural gas so it wants to happen so we

[3:29:58] would have a backup boiler for after

[3:29:59] reacts just in case the oil was taken

[3:30:01] out of service or something

[3:30:03] that would give us longer detention time

[3:30:05] in our current digestives which reduces

[3:30:07] follicle which reduces mass and what

[3:30:10] that does is a little difficult to

[3:30:12] reduce our total slices

[3:30:15] because you need more mass

[3:30:22] any other questions

[3:30:26] real quick okay I'm looking at 6.6

[3:30:29] million 650 000 for the source we're

[3:30:33] going to use a reserves and fun balance

[3:30:35] of one point one million seven hundred

[3:30:37] fifty thousand and because of the

[3:30:39] digestive

[3:30:40] we feel what it's going to pay for

[3:30:42] itself we'll look at actual borrowed 4.9

[3:30:44] million

[3:30:45] for the digest your stuff figuring that

[3:30:48] that's going to pay for itself not asked

[3:30:50] a product

[3:30:51] oh yeah

[3:30:57] all right any questions all right I

[3:31:00] think it is some Marathon section thanks

[3:31:02] Paul yeah thank you thank you wonderful detail

[3:31:06] um if you're running out forward from

[3:31:08] finance and a motion to ajar

[3:31:11] reset the Greeks

[3:31:18] all right

[3:31:22] now

[3:31:25] let's take another favor

[3:31:33] foreign

[3:31:36] [Music]

[3:31:43] [Applause]

Schenectady 2023 Budget Meeting #2 - Oct 18th 2022

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