[0:05] foreign

[5:05] thank you

[5:31] foreign

[7:54] thank you

[10:56] okay

[11:06] can we

[11:08] correct that yeah

[11:10] we have a list of stuff right here yes

[11:14] any other questions

[11:23] thank you

[11:28] I will go into assessment

[11:31] Ferrari yes

[11:33] assessments uh the total budget has only

[11:36] been coming up 8 979 and it's all

[11:40] you know because of payroll increases

[11:46] sure I honestly nothing else in the

[11:48] budget really changed that's really

[11:50] changed we finally after a year and so

[11:53] many months yeah we have a data

[11:55] collector starting on Monday so that's

[11:57] yay and we're looking for a clerk right

[12:00] now and that's so that should wrap up

[12:02] pretty soon

[12:04] but otherwise you know besides the

[12:07] salaries I'm interested to see so for

[12:10] the past couple of years because of

[12:11] legislation with covet we haven't sent

[12:13] out any mailings or had to do any

[12:15] mailings of big names we're sending one

[12:17] out this October so I'm interested to

[12:20] see we ended up we end up usually having

[12:23] a little bit of overage anyways so but

[12:25] I'm afraid mailings are going to go up

[12:27] and there's some legislation

[12:29] um at the state level

[12:32] that has to do with one of the

[12:34] exemptions we have and that they want us

[12:36] to alert everybody who owns property

[12:38] even if they're not really like we know

[12:42] there's probably people who are not over

[12:43] 65 their own property when the

[12:45] legislation could state that we have to

[12:48] let everyone know who owns residential

[12:49] property about this particular exemption

[12:53] and think about the

[12:57] occur and we have the 15 000 Residential

[12:59] Properties so it's it's

[13:02] nervous about that I think there's

[13:04] enough assessors around the state here

[13:06] we're talking about this at our

[13:07] conference there's not assessors around

[13:08] the state who are angry enough about

[13:10] that that they would try to fight

[13:11] against that just because of the postage

[13:13] if that was to come through then we'd

[13:16] have to find it a more creative way like

[13:17] anything else that goes out from the

[13:19] city to all Property Owners you would

[13:24] I guess that's for something in the

[13:26] future

[13:27] but otherwise really you know changes

[13:29] you know

[13:31] steps that goes for the board assessment

[13:33] groups yeah

[13:38] so is that the only vacancy that we have

[13:41] the well as of right now right just yeah

[13:44] we have two vacancies to get it left

[13:46] around the clerk but somebody starts

[13:48] Monday so they collector I'm not

[13:50] counting that yeah

[13:53] that would be probably I would say

[13:56] three or four more weeks but that would

[13:58] be vacant

[14:00] so whatever that line was this year

[14:02] still

[14:05] thank you

[14:08] should we be adding postage

[14:10] um or just I you know what I I

[14:14] don't just

[14:17] haven't sent out

[14:19] years so it's hard to know I know

[14:22] postage has gone up but we still do have

[14:25] enough because we kept postage the same

[14:27] every year and it was so I think we'll

[14:31] be okay

[14:33] but I don't know it's just something

[14:35] it's something to think about I guess

[14:37] because it's hard for us to know

[14:40] how many

[14:42] because the legislation there's a lot of

[14:44] people that won't need to won't be

[14:45] renewing in the future there's a lot of

[14:47] people that we know probably didn't meet

[14:49] the income qualifications and all that

[14:51] so it's just a matter of

[14:54] um waiting to go through a year but to

[14:56] see because we may have some

[14:59] mm-hmm

[15:01] I want to think of some other ways too

[15:03] and they can clinical tool with the tax

[15:04] bills maybe yeah well this is just in

[15:07] general the regular renewal process

[15:09] that'll happen at the end of this month

[15:14] gotcha okay

[15:18] you're saying it's gonna happen I didn't

[15:20] want to be the decisions of mail the

[15:22] notification out no I'm sorry that that

[15:24] is still it could that could sit dormant

[15:27] for a long time depending on whether

[15:29] somebody gets a priority

[15:31] um but I think we do a normal renewal

[15:34] process we do a mailing to everybody in

[15:37] the past two years we haven't

[15:38] necessarily had to do that because we've

[15:40] had legislation that extended all of the

[15:43] exemptions so

[15:45] um this will be a good trial run to kind

[15:47] of see what the posters will be like

[15:50] um so it's hard to say okay and I think

[15:53] and we've again we've had overages in

[15:55] the budget so it should be able to

[15:57] account for that

[15:59] and it's not the numbers aren't

[16:01] necessarily going to change

[16:03] I'm still looking at the same amount of

[16:04] extensions so if we haven't been mailing out in two

[16:10] years then safe to say that we'll

[16:13] probably be okay yeah yeah but it'll be

[16:16] a good kind of uh reference point moving

[16:18] forward

[16:21] foreign

[16:54] increase that's basically a pay raise

[16:57] just two uh I'm I'm here requesting for

[17:01] uh my uh Deputy uh Derek uh the mayor uh

[17:04] you know had a four percent increase we

[17:07] were hoping to get him up to 80 000 uh

[17:10] that's where we'd like to have them

[17:11] North America you know give everyone

[17:14] this four percent so I just want to

[17:15] write that down there uh there's been

[17:17] doing a great job he's getting ready to

[17:19] you know take over position uh

[17:22] I I keep telling sooner than any things

[17:24] so uh he's lord of the old Lottery uh we

[17:28] had a lot of trust fund he's doing a

[17:29] great job with all the other departments

[17:32] that we deal with which we'll speak

[17:33] tonight

[17:35] in my case it took the four percent you

[17:38] know we're good with that our longevity

[17:40] is what it is uh the other increases is

[17:43] in the stipend uh for uh uh Derek and I

[17:47] we both attended meetings we we're here

[17:50] late almost every night uh when we're

[17:52] just asking the stipend to increase the

[17:54] same as Chris long and so in the Parks

[17:57] now uh the total uh everything else uh

[18:01] pretty much is stays the same

[18:04] and that like I said the biggest Saint

[18:06] Chris is is Takeoff

[18:08] if you have any questions on any of

[18:10] these uh

[18:11] just explain the Feast of service yeah

[18:13] fees for services is is that uh you know

[18:16] that's when we pay our audits our uh

[18:18] Nikon bills we pay our Arbitrage bills

[18:22] we pay our fiscal advisor out of there

[18:24] and one of our biggest things we do to

[18:26] oped which is the other post-employment

[18:28] benefit uh uh research that's the big

[18:31] thing too a big cost of that so that's eats that up pretty good

[18:37] Anthony what was the second thing you

[18:38] said after Nikon

[18:41] trash yeah what's that what happens is

[18:44] that uh we have to have it certify that

[18:46] all our borrowing that we're not making

[18:48] more money than

[18:49] uh our interest rate that we're

[18:52] receiving because we have our money uh

[18:54] invested in Banks or whatever it's not

[18:55] making more money than our uh costs so

[18:59] we have to have it certified that that

[19:02] each uh each level of borrowing that we

[19:04] have

[19:07] some way to get money yet

[19:10] cheese okay thanks

[19:14] go ahead please with regard to the

[19:17] statement so are you anticipating more

[19:19] hours well I I think we've we've been

[19:22] working more hours

[19:24] actually I'm hoping to work lifestyle so

[19:27] I'm gonna say well we didn't work here

[19:29] we attend all the meetings we're here

[19:30] not only for finance and uh committee

[19:33] means we're also we also have to deal

[19:35] with uh of water and soil or all those

[19:37] other babies so if these guys have to

[19:39] take after hours

[19:42] not all departments get those uh no but

[19:45] you know many do

[19:53] so when you meet with these other

[19:55] departments yeah

[19:56] are they on overtime or are they uh

[19:59] mostly without a department heads then

[20:01] uh most of the ones we like crystalline

[20:04] uh uh Joe panjango and uh uh what's his

[20:08] name Paula fine Chris Wallen you know

[20:11] when we meet after work you know you

[20:12] know because really it's a time for us

[20:14] where we can like really talk because we

[20:16] don't have the phones without people

[20:17] coming that's what we do a lot of work

[20:19] as you know Chris was talking about

[20:20] yesterday's all this stuff that we know

[20:22] and the plans that we do the famous

[20:23] stuff we do we usually do that after

[20:25] hours

[20:27] just just because it's easier any

[20:30] questions

[20:33] all right let's move to um page three

[20:37] accounts and disbursement okay uh okay

[20:40] I'm a guy I gotta tell you about this

[20:43] and which I'm proud of these guys so

[20:44] really uh

[20:46] and and there's two things that you got

[20:49] to remember an accounts this year we

[20:50] lost three people in that department and

[20:54] so uh we replaced the administrative

[20:56] assistant uh from 56 so we got a new

[20:59] Junior accountant we just got him we're

[21:00] trained right in the middle of training

[21:02] now they're a big part of that training

[21:03] and we think we found a great guy uh we

[21:06] also got a Percy mailing clerk which

[21:09] started uh this year uh and you know

[21:12] we're teaching her and she's doing

[21:14] really well purchasing supervisor this

[21:17] is probably one of our biggest we are so

[21:19] lucky we found a person that's so bright

[21:21] so smart and uh

[21:23] scroll up uh experience that she

[21:26] actually came from the city of Albany

[21:28] that she went to court alone and now

[21:30] she's with us and she started like uh

[21:33] two months ago and we're really working

[21:35] so uh

[21:36] we're really you know we we were with

[21:38] nobody we went from nothing and to we're

[21:41] really getting this stuff back in shape

[21:43] that's right Liz uh Elizabeth

[21:47] one of the best uh bookkeepers that we

[21:50] have here in the coming so uh she's a a

[21:54] really great person that's great

[21:56] reporting she's just not a people person

[21:59] foreign

[22:12] [Music]

[22:35] 790 like I said that's basically a

[22:38] uh the front panel increases

[22:42] and like I said really proud of these

[22:44] guys I mean you know we're we started

[22:46] we're starting from scratch how proud of

[22:48] the guys that we stayed Derek myself

[22:50] lives in Amanda because we're actually

[22:52] doing the pork of six seven people just

[22:54] uh three and four of us yeah

[22:59] reimbursement

[23:01] so are there any openings at all uh

[23:05] right now uh there is not right now you

[23:07] know uh we're thinking of uh no not

[23:11] so the junior calendar so that was in

[23:15] there that's that's a new position

[23:16] that's his new position uh the the

[23:19] person with their mystery system she was

[23:21] supposed to uh develop into an economy

[23:24] but after a couple of days she uh

[23:27] it's gonna like it so she left oh okay

[23:31] she actually went to this back to the

[23:32] store Department worked for the problem

[23:35] all right thank you

[23:39] yes as quickly so was that so that

[23:41] person who's going to move into uh

[23:44] transition into uh junior accountant so

[23:46] did you collapse that position or is

[23:48] that position still

[23:50] exists no that Junior College is the new

[23:54] a new new position and was actually the

[23:56] administrative assistant was the only

[23:58] position okay and that's what we uh we

[24:01] deleted her well we're we're not funding

[24:04] her position we are funding between your

[24:06] account to take that place okay

[24:08] that makes sense

[24:10] yeah

[24:13] she was she's a 15 year old a year

[24:17] interesting

[24:20] yeah

[24:22] explain a tuition or reimbursement okay

[24:26] reimbursement uh it's actually for uh

[24:28] our produced supervisor and our Junior

[24:31] Captain uh they both uh they both sort

[24:34] of request you know because it's in the

[24:36] contracts actually if you get approved

[24:38] they won't last I'll give your comment

[24:40] and wants to eventually become an

[24:42] accountant for that account which you

[24:44] know we're pushing to do awesome so

[24:46] we're worth the wait put that in there

[24:48] for him to go to school and say with the

[24:50] our personal supervisor who has a degree

[24:54] she's looking to become to get a masters

[24:56] you know

[24:57] we're pushing that you know to move

[25:00] forward on education too

[25:08] Yeah you mentioned that the purchasing

[25:10] email clerk was recently hired yes

[25:13] so just for clarity uh it has our breath

[25:16] next to it sorry requesting Oracle funds

[25:18] oh no yeah what happened was last year

[25:21] with winter when we were trying to find

[25:23] the person we that would be fulfilling

[25:26] an old position at that article and we

[25:29] really only finally uh fulfilled it this

[25:31] year according to 22. so we're going to

[25:34] continue that felt there's more able to

[25:37] foreign

[26:04] they would transfer money if somebody

[26:06] wants to go because that's all if you

[26:08] approve the kid you just can't cuddle

[26:10] right but it hasn't had the opportunity

[26:11] though yeah it doesn't matter what

[26:14] department you're in right okay yeah it

[26:16] has to be in line with your job I

[26:17] understand yep

[26:30] all right what's most paid six

[26:35] Board of discussion over here that's

[26:37] exactly the same in fact I think you

[26:39] just uh

[26:47] keep going

[26:49] is is

[26:53] Human Resources okay listen human

[26:57] resource I got to tell you again thanks

[26:59] for thanks to Derek Bliss and myself our

[27:03] whole in 2021 our whole human resource

[27:07] department left

[27:10] yeah

[27:11] and uh we were able between the like I

[27:14] said the three of us to keep it going

[27:15] that everybody still got paid everybody

[27:17] you know got going and we've not

[27:20] required a

[27:21] you know a like a full staff

[27:24] uh to look at one of the things we're

[27:27] looking for an additional it says HR

[27:29] assistant ips3 as a picked up position

[27:32] we're looking to add and and mostly

[27:34] that's the split for our production

[27:35] Administration and HRS because we have

[27:38] nobody we haven't had a person in our

[27:40] front of our office and so 2019. where

[27:43] Amy Hill was so we're looking you know

[27:46] that we're looking to fill that both of

[27:48] us can use here you know just to just do

[27:50] you know take uh paperwork to take names

[27:53] to answer phone calls that you know to

[27:56] just do uh regular work you know for

[27:59] both departments uh also again like I

[28:01] said so we we have a brand new HR

[28:04] administrator we have a brand new

[28:06] payroll uh uh audit clerk we have a

[28:09] brand new uh personal benefits clerk we

[28:11] have a a brand new payroll manager I

[28:14] mean these people haven't even been here

[28:16] a year yet and I'm not saying it was

[28:18] easy but yeah it's it's we've had a lot

[28:21] of months and you know we had some big

[28:22] box we had some little bumps but we're

[28:24] going through it and these guys are

[28:26] really working real hard it's a young

[28:29] staff which which is a really nice

[28:31] because I'm I'm hoping that and if they

[28:34] take my uh they take my uh look back at

[28:37] me and put 38 years in so so you know

[28:40] there'll be no fluctuation as they go

[28:42] through so I want to say I'm probably

[28:44] the guys that are I've been working to

[28:46] get this through this so

[28:47] uh that's that uh what else

[28:53] we we do have a part-time person for DM

[28:55] salary uh she works 15 to 16 hours a

[28:58] week and uh you know is this because of

[29:01] payroll you have to keep things for 40

[29:03] years

[29:04] as long as the she mostly works because

[29:07] he's doing paperwork in the in the in

[29:10] the back just moving stuff in and out

[29:12] you know

[29:13] huh

[29:16] um so one of the questions that I asked

[29:18] and you answered was about

[29:20] um 1430 the um eliminating the employee

[29:23] health and safety program right and I

[29:25] understand that you couldn't fill it

[29:27] when we want to we want to fill that in

[29:29] the future I mean that is something

[29:30] because uh it seems like it would be an

[29:33] important role and that's what I'm

[29:34] wondering like who is doing that now

[29:36] nobody's doing it oh no we never had

[29:39] anybody doing it oh we wanted to do this

[29:41] and it was our idea and we're trying to

[29:44] bring a person in so that they would do

[29:47] all the uh you know workers comp you

[29:49] know teaching people how to pick stuff

[29:51] up like you know right and vote

[29:52] Department you know instead of just we

[29:55] have this one day a year classes you

[29:57] know what I mean yeah we're looking to

[29:58] have somebody here all the time and the

[30:00] whole idea

[30:01] behind that is try to reduce the amount

[30:03] of workers

[30:05] we definitely want to do that in future

[30:07] with us we just did not have any luck we

[30:09] think maybe the pain is not high enough

[30:11] but we we didn't even get any

[30:12] applications at all and we even went to

[30:14] MVP we're trying to stack people on MVP

[30:16] well okay

[30:20] so some of the classes that I mean the

[30:23] MVP does offer and that we all get

[30:25] regular emails about some of that can be

[30:28] incorporated into yeah okay so it's not

[30:30] you wanted somebody full-time though

[30:31] like because you know oh yeah

[30:44] you know make sure they're wearing the

[30:46] boots instead of shoes you know stuff

[30:48] like that you know I mean that was that

[30:50] was our idea of this but like I said we

[30:52] just couldn't get anybody

[30:54] um we uh we looked at other cities uh

[30:57] City of Rochester got found somebody

[30:59] Syracuse didn't find anybody Rochester I

[31:01] got a guy and they said they helped him

[31:03] a thousand percent help us yeah

[31:07] plus of course yeah yeah okay oh yeah

[31:12] we're definitely we're definitely going

[31:13] to want to do that in the future and and

[31:17] you know we we decided like it would

[31:19] probably leave the HR assistant that's

[31:21] probably more beneficial for us right

[31:23] now than uh yeah okay so we were just you know we're

[31:27] looking at the budget wise too sure how

[31:30] do we save money now yep

[31:33] a question on a formative action officer

[31:35] yeah I know over the years Iran had a

[31:38] you know comes with us with uh requests

[31:40] for additional Staffing and the amount

[31:43] of workload is being increased well you

[31:45] know yeah how are we able to support him

[31:48] and we also have a support staff for him

[31:50] in his mother that's the thing right now

[31:53] is and I talked to the mayor about this

[31:55] answer on you know writes a good friend

[31:56] of mine that says hi you have to tell us

[31:58] you know what what is your job are you

[32:00] the firmative action for the city are

[32:02] you the are you actually running the

[32:04] Enterprise Community what is that called

[32:06] the positive Zone you know it says you

[32:09] know we have got to figure out what

[32:11] you're going to do before we can you

[32:12] know you know what is your job what's

[32:14] your check what is what are you going to

[32:15] be doing full-time right now he's

[32:17] getting through it in the future I don't

[32:19] know like what we're talking about uh

[32:21] with the arpan funds uh with the

[32:23] Enterprise

[32:28] run the projects I guess right so uh

[32:33] so then so it's like a little confusing

[32:35] and we're not sure

[32:36] so is it wrong reviewing the contracts

[32:39] to make sure they are able to be complex

[32:41] yeah I don't think he has any problems

[32:43] doing that I think it's the biggest

[32:44] problem is where his workload is is an

[32:48] Empowerment Center

[32:49] on the zone so we talked so it's a

[32:51] question of um are we talking about

[32:53] roles clarification for the position or

[32:57] are we saying he wants to have his own

[32:59] Department right okay right so really

[33:02] it's really up to you guys if you guys

[33:03] think you need one you know you can

[33:05] always add

[33:06] staff for anyone

[33:08] I just I just thought

[33:11] you know because if you if they're going

[33:13] to build that thing that's going to be

[33:14] like two years in the making before

[33:17] getting going I figured well you know

[33:18] maybe you'll wait a year or two and then

[33:20] you know just really see what which

[33:22] direction he's going so he hasn't

[33:24] requested it is what I'm here

[33:28] and he requested it uh you know

[33:32] kind of like says not yet

[33:36] an administrative assistant you mean

[33:39] that would be him administrators two two

[33:41] other people it was it was a three-year

[33:43] room Club

[33:44] three uh three uh people of the

[33:46] apartment yeah

[33:50] because my phone has workbook definitely

[33:52] going to be increased I mean he's

[33:53] working with the Virgos Department to

[33:56] make sure that they are in compliance

[33:57] for the time they live to be a

[33:59] requirement I know with this hiding on

[34:01] him with the millions of dollars or

[34:03] initial projects and there's a sense of

[34:06] that he's coordinating with the duri

[34:08] foundation

[34:24] but like I said you know maybe you know

[34:27] I'm not really sure how that plays into

[34:29] being the first officer for us you know

[34:31] so does that that's a good question

[34:33] because I know that um at one point he

[34:35] was um uh other departments were

[34:37] graciously assisting him and some of the

[34:39] things that he was doing so I'm

[34:40] wondering like if that you know

[34:43] because I imagine someone's leaving a

[34:45] department to go assist him in his

[34:48] Department then

[34:49] there's a need for some assistance there

[34:52] and then that's also leaving you know

[34:53] some their their responsibilities that

[34:57] they're supposed to be doing too so it's

[34:59] like so it's clearly a need for him to

[35:01] have of some support on that

[35:04] you know like I said this is opportunity

[35:06] to give it to him but with the new

[35:09] position in HR that you said was going

[35:12] to serve other offices could that also

[35:14] help to serve well actually that is he's

[35:16] in HR

[35:18] isn't in charge it was actually going to

[35:20] pick a floor no I know but I know where

[35:22] he is but this is

[35:25] right but that that sounds like that

[35:28] assistant you said I'm sorry I'm sorry

[35:36] I'm clear on how he

[35:38] sounds like to me like

[35:39] you know how to create his own job

[35:41] position

[35:42] that's what you're saying to me but I'm

[35:44] not really clear on that girl you know

[35:45] I'm not sure for Life yeah so that's how I'm telling that I'm

[35:49] talking about

[35:52] yeah yeah like I said it's true yeah the

[35:56] mirror I wasn't you know keen on that as

[35:58] yeah but

[36:00] um

[36:03] so he's asking for his own Department uh

[36:06] he wants to have a an assistant and uh

[36:11] believe it and what's that I believe it

[36:14] was an assistant and an intern

[36:16] but actually uh a a clerk okay and so

[36:21] because you know this mayor talks about

[36:24] various things he wants to do and and he

[36:27] says and we're going to use Ron's group

[36:28] to do this this and this so clearly

[36:31] um he's important to how he's currently

[36:33] running it and it's also looking to

[36:35] assign world with him

[36:37] um and in years past I've asked this

[36:39] question before about why Ron didn't

[36:41] have an assistant and before he said he

[36:43] didn't ask for it America

[36:49] did not give it something I'm saying

[36:51] it's an opportunity that's why we're

[36:53] here to

[36:56] yeah

[36:56] well there were other people that asked

[36:58] for positions also yeah we're turning

[37:01] down so yeah um

[37:03] I think we should definitely consider it

[37:05] because his work will seem to just

[37:07] increase

[37:10] I guess I'd want to see just as you said

[37:13] Miss Porterfield I'd want to see a

[37:15] description I'd want you know Ron to

[37:17] probably I'd want to see and and he's

[37:19] not here so I'd like to talk with him

[37:21] but also see what's the business plan

[37:23] what is what is the the the

[37:27] um the plan just like you said I mean

[37:29] what is his responsibilities and his

[37:32] role and

[37:34] um as you said it you're you know it's sort of unclear right now so let's

[37:38] see it all you know

[37:40] well maybe I can get a hold of Ryan

[37:42] doing tomorrow we haven't come tomorrow

[37:44] by any chance do you have his budget

[37:45] proposal that you can share with us that

[37:47] he presented to

[37:51] um not today not right yeah again to

[37:54] receive something from Ryan

[37:56] as an example of uh

[38:01] we brought them in there okay so we've

[38:04] got something floating out there that

[38:05] would have rationale and that kind of

[38:07] thing I would imagine right because

[38:08] somebody can get hold of that yeah

[38:11] [Music]

[38:30] um you know it was

[38:33] just something we do I just saw him

[38:35] clear it seems to be doing this with the

[38:36] sanction on the sea yeah

[38:41] okay please When I'm Not Looking come on

[38:43] you just go ahead and come on just talk

[38:46] just go ahead come on I guess we'll talk

[38:48] about each other I guess for me I just

[38:51] want to make sure I could have been

[38:53] treated

[38:57] I guess for me I just want to make sure

[38:59] we're equally looking at adding stuff

[39:01] the same way I just happened to the

[39:04] first page that came to mind and

[39:06] Engineering construction at the time

[39:08] they're asking for an assistant civil

[39:10] engineer to be added and we didn't ask

[39:14] for let's see sorry

[39:21] go ahead sorry so in the engineering

[39:24] construction design they're asking for

[39:25] an additional support staff the

[39:27] assistant civil engineer and it cost

[39:29] thirty two thousand dollars and if I

[39:31] remember correctly he didn't have

[39:33] these stipulations for them to

[39:35] substantiate why they were adding that

[39:38] position so I just want to know if

[39:39] there's any particular reason why we're

[39:41] going to ask us that or is this a

[39:43] different consideration altogether

[39:46] I can respond to that I mean you know I

[39:49] think that we've been knowing for

[39:50] several years that the engineering

[39:52] department which has now all you know

[39:54] even all the Opera projects on on board

[39:56] needed that additional staff and that

[39:59] was I think it's been asked for many

[40:02] times before before I was on accounts of

[40:04] living right

[40:05] do you think yes

[40:07] um and in this case I just wanted just

[40:10] to follow up with what Mrs Porterfield

[40:11] was saying I just I think Ron does a

[40:13] great job

[40:15] um but I just want to see especially in

[40:17] terms of this being a new program

[40:19] um you know I just want to hear from him

[40:21] yeah I think but that's I don't want to

[40:23] speak for around you it's right like I

[40:25] said it might be if we go out with

[40:27] things right I'm just I'm looking as a

[40:29] whole I'm looking at the big picture

[40:30] with the city I'm not trying to be

[40:32] personal like because I think Rob's a

[40:33] good guy yeah well I mean that it isn't

[40:36] personal it's about the department yeah

[40:38] so like it says you know with America

[40:40] I'm gonna put a mix on it so I'm just

[40:43] trying to bring that forward but this is

[40:44] like I said this opportunity for Council

[40:47] if they feel that he should have it and

[40:51] I guess to respond to Carl I guess I

[40:54] feel like we've had rationale for the

[40:56] engineering department and also for that

[40:59] engineer that we've been asking for that

[41:03] students I mean we did at many occasions

[41:05] we try to add and it never happened

[41:09] I can recall that Enron came on board on

[41:13] the next following years he was asking

[41:15] yeah

[41:16] I think we tried on on that level we

[41:18] keep trying every year okay we have seen

[41:21] just like how you mentioned how the

[41:22] engineering department is going to be

[41:24] swamped with additional award Ron is

[41:26] going to be sponsored additional work in

[41:27] review to make sure people are very

[41:28] compliance also he's working with the

[41:30] police and fire to make sure that they

[41:32] are oh they're going with you know the

[41:36] um you know minority

[41:38] um officers to get on board those are

[41:40] all additional work on top of make sure

[41:42] that a contractors

[41:43] are doing what they're supposed to do

[41:46] plus he's running outside the center so

[41:49] getting a support staff for him will be

[41:51] ideal just like how we are approving for

[41:54] other departments to support staff it

[41:56] will complement Iran is doing because

[41:58] he's doing a fantastic job and there's

[42:00] no doubt about it inside City Hall we're

[42:03] hearing that outside inside of City Hall

[42:05] of what he's doing contractor is talking

[42:07] about he's helping contractors on all

[42:10] different levels right to attain

[42:12] certification to to work them you know

[42:15] work give them the steps they needed to

[42:18] apply for these uh Municipal jobs

[42:21] in addition to that because because he's

[42:24] doing that it's because the city was not

[42:26] meeting our mwpe requirements hardly

[42:28] ever so it was necessary actually what he did was create it was necessary

[42:33] because we the the contractor said we

[42:36] don't have enough mwgs so therefore Iran

[42:39] created training class so now we can

[42:41] feed the mwps in from this training

[42:43] classes community so it does tie

[42:45] together so yeah that's why so what was

[42:47] what would the salary be well I believe a bunch of them put in I think

[42:53] the salary for the assistant was 62 if

[42:55] you remember that I would have to look

[42:58] at it and then uh

[43:02] so I guess a little bit of my confusion

[43:04] is around or talk what you know we're

[43:07] talking about the position

[43:09] um and so I hear some people referring

[43:12] to it as the position and then some

[43:14] people they're referring to it as a

[43:15] department

[43:16] and I think that if we're talking about

[43:18] an apartment and it's been it's pretty

[43:20] clear that that um we're not moving or

[43:24] thus far haven't been moving in an

[43:28] equitable manner to your point Mr

[43:29] Williams

[43:31] um so I mean so

[43:34] are we

[43:35] the affirmative action officer

[43:37] affirmative action department is is

[43:41] what the parent is is really what we're

[43:44] trying to create here if he's doing so

[43:46] then I guess we got to stop talking

[43:47] about if I as a position and then we

[43:49] should probably refer to it as a

[43:51] department if that's the direction we're

[43:53] heading in and if that's the direction

[43:54] heading then we are obligated to a

[43:57] resource of that sucks right very good

[43:59] okay

[44:00] [Music]

[44:01] okay so I guess um just to think about

[44:04] that

[44:06] I think and I guess I would have to just

[44:08] research this but I think in terms of

[44:11] affirmative action duties in a workplace

[44:16] I think that has to do with firing and

[44:18] those kinds of things at least that's my

[44:20] experience in my own

[44:22] former workplaces so that that would be

[44:25] an HR function

[44:27] um but the mwbe contractual you know the

[44:32] uh review of all the contracts Etc that

[44:34] goes across all of our city departments

[44:37] um obviously the work that he does with

[44:39] police and fire is HR related right

[44:43] um and then the Empowerment Center I'm

[44:45] not really as you know I think that's

[44:47] going to be you know trying to help

[44:49] younger people get into careers

[44:52] um I'm just not really sure yet I mean

[44:54] what that is

[44:56] um so perhaps in terms of what we do

[45:00] moving forward we think about what we've

[45:02] done with some of the other positions

[45:03] where

[45:05] um part of a salary comes out of I'm

[45:07] thinking of like you know ogs and codes

[45:10] right that some of the and even

[45:12] engineering right some of the salary

[45:14] comes out of one Department some of it

[45:16] comes out of another department

[45:18] um in terms of what the functions of the

[45:21] job role

[45:23] um are so

[45:25] um anyway I'm certainly open to it I

[45:27] just you know need a little Clarity

[45:30] there but

[45:31] um when we uh let me add a disposition I

[45:34] tried to recall that we were like where does this position fit since and

[45:40] it was more like

[45:41] we need to fit them in a department

[45:44] gotcha because at that time there were

[45:46] no departments so in the past it was on

[45:49] the table and it was agree that he's a

[45:51] good fit for human resource at one time

[45:53] until we can agree does we already moved

[45:56] from the Iran and that's why it's stuck

[45:58] under here because he's probably been

[45:59] here for like five or six years right

[46:01] that's made a great point I think you

[46:03] know basically what he got like the

[46:05] money was saying really in that role

[46:07] again in affirmative action Department

[46:10] maybe it's called Workforce all right so

[46:13] well I'm going to request since you know

[46:16] okay Miss Patrick uh my can I agree with

[46:18] that

[46:19] the question are we if you can have it

[46:21] here tomorrow just to give us an

[46:24] overview or maybe astronautica

[46:28] so we'll have it done tomorrow just for

[46:30] free both of you not to expect that just

[46:33] a small bridge for you

[46:35] go ahead

[46:37] um

[46:38] is it really present us to create a new

[46:41] department that has to be done

[46:44] because it's personnel

[46:46] can you take that is

[46:50] budgets yeah but there's we're talking

[46:53] two different guys who talk about

[46:54] creating an entire department oh that's

[46:56] true yeah so that's so we want to be clear

[47:02] about that

[47:03] I'm wondering if the I think the mayor

[47:06] is not here tomorrow night either yeah

[47:08] so I mean to me if we even if we do

[47:11] these positions we could still do them

[47:12] here for now and then talk yeah let's

[47:15] hear from him tomorrow what's uh you

[47:17] know his position of

[47:19] additional Staffing and what he's

[47:21] actually doing there so yeah we're far

[47:25] from there no matter what you're doing

[47:26] that guy you're going to do a great job

[47:27] yeah

[47:29] this was under the mayor's office

[47:35] go ahead please so when he comes uh when

[47:39] the affirmative action officer so this

[47:42] should be not be using names no no uh

[47:45] when he comes so under the 60

[47:50] an assistant and the interim three would

[47:52] be at like forty seven thousand Pages

[47:56] 64.

[47:59] 35 so

[48:02] um just what they would be responsible

[48:03] for more media Alpine of their duties

[48:07] um what he would use them for what they

[48:10] would assist in we'll ask him tomorrow

[48:18] I would appreciate it yeah

[48:21] um yeah any other question on

[48:23] a few memory scores

[48:34] 14.

[48:36] [Applause]

[48:46] Eagles are we are we doing better we're

[48:50] doing better but are we meeting them

[48:51] though I I thought the truth can I hear

[48:54] the question

[48:58] so my question was

[49:01] um are we I know Brian

[49:04] um a big part of his position was to

[49:07] make sure that we're meeting our mwbe

[49:09] goals oh so I was wondering

[49:12] with all the great work that everyone's

[49:13] saying that he's doing I'm wondering are

[49:16] we meeting those goals yet you know what

[49:18] we do is when you bring it in tomorrow

[49:19] I'll make sure it doesn't answer them

[49:21] and I thought that was something

[49:25] what page

[49:28] yeah yeah yeah

[49:32] we can have all of that for them

[49:34] tomorrow

[49:35] okay I'll address that stage 14 sorry

[49:42] kind of central printing mailing

[49:46] um

[49:47] okay uh

[49:53] um everything's basically the same

[49:55] exactly the same as those last year this

[49:57] is where we pay all our

[49:59] postages and uh

[50:02] expenses uh further math throughout the

[50:05] whole city goes through a

[50:07] partial person goes through a metal

[50:10] excuse me go through our what's that

[50:14] called 100 the mail the mail itself in

[50:16] this 35 000 is the same one that has

[50:19] last year

[50:21] 15.

[50:26] there's no specifically postage going up

[50:28] at all

[50:30] and last year maybe

[50:32] so far

[50:36] it's somewhere um

[50:44] a16 70 400 other expenses it's other

[50:48] expensive okay so yeah because because

[50:51] that's that's actually paid we we don't

[50:54] use it post obviously we use the mail

[50:56] carrier which is cheaper we get like two cents off for postage that's the

[51:01] other expenses machines we have that

[51:03] special uh

[51:07] the Stamper and uh for uh

[51:32] any more questions on this section

[51:35] can I just ask you we do Central

[51:37] Communications 1650 before tomorrow

[51:46] 16.

[51:49] and allocated insurance

[51:52] yes our insurance expense went up about

[51:54] two percent and that's strong enough

[51:58] how uh we just uh we got an application

[52:02] in for our cyber Insurance we're hoping

[52:04] the space at the amount of 38 000

[52:07] retirement fee so we will find out soon

[52:10] so

[52:12] okay

[52:13] questions

[52:15] so you don't question we'll move to

[52:17] bottom of that page audio miscellaneous

[52:19] undistributed okay expense the biggest thing is uh contingency what

[52:24] makes it 300 000 reasons for that is uh

[52:27] this year too we we spent a real lot of

[52:29] money in contingency uh for uh

[52:32] demolitions of uh

[52:36] we're just trying to take a step of the

[52:39] next year to go higher uh usually like

[52:42] if you look at the past few years

[52:43] usually we're in the 170 and 190 range

[52:45] and we've got 250 to get enough but

[52:47] we've already glued that out of the

[52:48] water so next year we're hoping that

[52:51] it's not a good thing about the cars

[52:55] um how was our effort to collect money

[52:57] from these uh demo

[53:07] so you can't collect anything uh the

[53:10] ones that do you know uh are a lot of

[53:13] Partners right on you know and you know

[53:15] successful I hate to tell you that you

[53:17] know most of these things which are done

[53:19] through a part like arsonists they can

[53:21] pick they pick buildings directly you

[53:23] know people had walked out and they're

[53:24] empty and so on so there's no insurance

[53:27] is zero the answers no the one that has

[53:30] Insurance are we able to collect from

[53:32] them

[53:34] yeah it takes time to visit the process

[53:36] because as you know uh if if we have to

[53:39] demolish it you know the people uh who

[53:41] own the house you know they want you

[53:43] know it's a fight with them in the

[53:44] insurance company us the insurance

[53:45] company end up ownership

[53:48] so does it go does it go through our

[53:50] insurance company then no not our

[53:52] expectations I mean who handles trying

[53:54] to get the apartment

[54:00] it starts with you know it's a fire

[54:02] department sets it out home enforcement

[54:03] you know the quarter forces disease you

[54:05] know we make sure to have them shift

[54:07] they have insurance and our Law

[54:08] Department because after insurance

[54:10] company yeah gotcha

[54:26] our receipts department where you can

[54:29] pay your taxes online

[54:37] instead of us I'm going to buy it with

[54:39] that but now if we charge it okay gotcha

[54:50] credit card yeah

[54:53] the next one here I've seen yesterday I

[54:55] know this was a place called um how are

[54:57] we doing with that movement yeah they're

[55:00] probably also be coming in the next

[55:02] weeks and I got delayed because the

[55:05] coveted with uh Catholic Charities

[55:07] operating through the three

[55:09] neighborhoods

[55:12] we're a winner too if we figure out what

[55:15] happened malaise they've had sicknesses

[55:18] and things with the virus so it got

[55:21] delayed

[55:24] any more question on this section

[55:26] all right let's keep moving

[55:28] all right I'm gonna make sure

[55:33] page uh

[55:37] age 31. again I don't think we did this

[55:40] a police review board

[55:41] but I just want to increase that from

[55:43] fifteen hundred to five thousand dollars

[55:48] was there a budget for that or you just

[55:50] uh I think just I wasn't asked yeah I

[55:54] wonder if it was an Ask wanna I don't

[55:56] remember who it was

[56:09] so this increases

[56:12] yeah we I was told traveling training

[56:16] okay yeah thank you

[56:20] any other short question

[56:22] let's keep moving is uh 34.

[56:29] all the way to the bottom

[56:31] uh

[56:38] you want to make sure we step on

[56:40] everything yeah it's not your services

[56:45] the country services that is we uh

[56:52] news

[56:54] we need us to buy a bit of rent for uh

[56:58] each of the veteran Halls oh yeah and so

[57:01] we've supplied them with uh

[57:03] support for you nice yeah that's great I

[57:06] know we got a thank you note no Jim Wilson yeah

[57:22] all right page 37.

[57:27] you sound like

[57:31] it's starting 70s

[57:42] age 37. our youth programs this is for

[57:47] the County Youth uh program that we have

[57:50] set up

[57:51] usually uh they send us a bill leverage

[57:54] every year

[57:57] yeah so this is separate from the summer

[57:59] youth employment that we are doing with

[58:02] the school district

[58:03] no I think that this is this is this is

[58:05] the money that goes to the county every

[58:07] year yeah

[58:09] in addition to the other money that we

[58:11] did this year right okay

[58:15] hmm

[58:16] so we're basically double paying them

[58:18] well they haven't asked for it so maybe they're not maybe they're taking

[58:23] it out of the other one you know

[58:25] because we had we did one just last year

[58:27] you know yep

[58:30] it seems like it would be a cdvg thing

[58:32] to me but I don't know

[58:34] especially if we're trying to have our

[58:36] own program

[58:38] um which I really support

[58:41] um but that's just

[58:43] I don't know

[58:45] so so this was this was approved uh last

[58:50] year right before the the

[58:54] youth yeah right so cool that I think

[58:57] yeah so this seems like

[59:02] um

[59:04] something separate from that that has to

[59:07] be right because I think yeah yeah

[59:12] ever no this year oh I'm wondering

[59:15] because they were involved with the

[59:17] other one yeah it could be

[59:19] that they knew that happened there I

[59:20] think they went the other way you know

[59:22] what I mean well in years past we gave

[59:24] them like a real small amount like for

[59:26] three thousand if you see three thousand

[59:27] so that's been something that's been

[59:29] ongoing a very low amount but this 43.

[59:31] it seems to me like a seamlessly it was

[59:35] that if we if we did the other program

[59:36] then this is in addition so it really

[59:38] should we continue I should probably

[59:40] call to find out it

[59:43] [Laughter]

[59:46] [Music]

[59:54] I just want to go through it that was

[59:56] the other small one time

[1:00:00] a city historian is 1500 that we take

[1:00:02] it's a historian to do his thing up

[1:00:04] there uh

[1:00:07] historical uh District commission is

[1:00:09] it's just a note-taker for the meetings

[1:00:11] I've had

[1:00:12] so that one has a second yeah

[1:00:17] celebrations two thousand dollars uh

[1:00:20] that is the memorials uh you know we

[1:00:22] give our

[1:00:24] supplies or uh

[1:00:26] foreign

[1:00:43] [Music]

[1:00:56] so we pay the people that are on the

[1:00:58] historic district commission ah

[1:01:13] that's it

[1:01:17] all right it's 38th

[1:01:20] yeah

[1:01:21] Board of zoning Fields

[1:01:26] like advertising and he has a note taker

[1:01:29] uh and the commissioner gets 3 700 and

[1:01:32] uh they'll take her it's uh 18 million

[1:01:34] dollars five hundred dollars is for the

[1:01:37] advertising when they have to put this

[1:01:38] stuff

[1:01:42] and planning commissioners

[1:01:48] the note taker gets eighteen hundred

[1:01:50] dollars the commissioner gets 4 500

[1:01:53] and advertising again is 7.50 so they

[1:01:56] plan only because I think they have more

[1:01:59] stuff going on yes and

[1:02:02] does our private commission please plan a commission Sharon

[1:02:06] let's think Commissioners then that's

[1:02:07] what it says no one else on the board no

[1:02:10] there are yeah

[1:02:12] it says 4 500 for Commissioners

[1:02:16] yes oh okay yeah so amongst each of them

[1:02:19] yes yeah it's probably like a thousand

[1:02:21] dollars I've done one person got 45 I

[1:02:24] think you're doing well

[1:02:26] nobody else got anything

[1:02:28] okay there's no question we'll move to a

[1:02:30] phase 44.

[1:02:32] employee benefits

[1:02:41] um

[1:02:44] [Music]

[1:02:46] a million ninety thousand seven hundred

[1:02:49] ninety nine dollars but it's only a 3.2

[1:02:51] percent uh really increase

[1:02:54] just just to let you know uh

[1:02:57] employee benefits throughout the total

[1:03:00] budget

[1:03:01] all benefits are 33 of the total budget

[1:03:05] is benefits and uh 44 of the budget is

[1:03:09] salaries so yeah so salary and benefits

[1:03:13] it says you know 70 uh 70 uh eight

[1:03:16] percent of the Republic

[1:03:18] so uh let's let's take a look at some of

[1:03:21] them one of the one of the first things

[1:03:23] I want to pass out to you is uh

[1:03:29] is the uh the increase

[1:03:32] of retirement payment for a police

[1:03:35] required

[1:03:37] the front page is about 2022 and then

[1:03:40] the second page is 20.3

[1:03:46] um

[1:03:53] so as you can as you can see uh in 20 in

[1:03:56] this year 2022 would have been paid at

[1:03:59] 8.6 million dollars

[1:04:02] by the 2023 this is just the estimates

[1:04:04] projections I'm probably going to go up

[1:04:06] because you probably saw that there's a

[1:04:08] present because the stock market and

[1:04:10] stuff yeah it's going up to 9.2 million

[1:04:13] that's actually a seven and uh 7.4

[1:04:16] percent increase 634 thousand dollars

[1:04:18] increase

[1:04:20] so uh that's one of the the bigger

[1:04:23] expenses that we have is that the police

[1:04:27] portion of the retirement or the

[1:04:30] benefits uh

[1:04:32] and uh as you see uh if you look at it

[1:04:35] we need budget of 9.1 now you'll notice

[1:04:38] the 9.2 we're we're looking at you know

[1:04:41] because we have to retirement for the

[1:04:44] ERS we we uh we're projecting that's

[1:04:46] going to be less so we're thinking the

[1:04:48] difference we're going to have enough to

[1:04:49] make that up there's a difference from

[1:04:51] the

[1:04:52] ERS oh ERS is our state employment yeah

[1:04:57] okay

[1:04:59] this is basically contractual or no oh

[1:05:02] yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[1:05:03] you know well I was saying just recently

[1:05:06] uh New York State Retirement Board uh

[1:05:09] just uh said they're going to increase

[1:05:11] so that's what kind of just as you can

[1:05:13] see here there's some fire you know

[1:05:15] we're looking at 29 29.7 was 30 that's

[1:05:19] going to be over 30 for that for that as

[1:05:22] well as salary you know that could be a

[1:05:24] recruiting tool uh one of one of our uh

[1:05:27] biggest expenses we you know we think is

[1:05:31] really killing us is just a workers

[1:05:33] complement and we're trying to get a

[1:05:35] handle on it we actually hired them

[1:05:41] consultant to try to help us deal with

[1:05:44] this worker comp to increase in what's

[1:05:46] going on and like I said it's basically

[1:05:48] said there's three huge departments fire

[1:05:50] police and uh waste but the final

[1:05:53] increase are the most expensive stuff so

[1:05:55] it makes it so much higher you know

[1:05:58] life insurance everything else pretty

[1:06:00] much stays the same another big increase

[1:06:03] is uh uh of course is the hospital

[1:06:06] medical insurance

[1:06:08] uh

[1:06:12] even though even though I asked a letter

[1:06:16] from our consultant that we have

[1:06:20] shown where the numbers will be used

[1:06:22] thank you

[1:06:32] country workers

[1:06:34] so uh oh this is looking at 11.9

[1:06:37] increase and uh and we're right at that

[1:06:40] number we can go across the board

[1:06:42] between uh

[1:06:44] water sword golfing Channel

[1:06:46] we try to you know we try to you know

[1:06:50] keep for General as you know same percentage all the way

[1:06:54] across so so we think we're doing okay

[1:06:57] our biggest our biggest uh increase you

[1:07:00] know because we still haven't uh had the

[1:07:01] uh the final number and so it's not lost

[1:07:04] because we're self-insured yeah and uh

[1:07:07] which would really save us a lot of

[1:07:08] money in the long run but uh our stock

[1:07:11] box that was before it used to be

[1:07:12] anything wrong to fifty thousand dollars

[1:07:14] and now we're having increased it to

[1:07:17] anything over uh seven to five thousand

[1:07:20] yep and uh and then they insurance but

[1:07:24] the insurance uh is is you know like two

[1:07:27] million dollars a year you know it's

[1:07:28] like 1.89 yeah so how are the numbers in

[1:07:31] here accurate when you have basically of

[1:07:34] not even 400 000 increase uh because we

[1:07:38] look we're doing it across the uh all

[1:07:40] the borders we're doing a water source

[1:07:42] so what we do is we not set out water

[1:07:45] solar and golf They even some of those

[1:07:48] were not changed

[1:07:50] because I noticed that yeah we would you

[1:07:53] know we figured that if you look at that

[1:07:54] number of fifteen thousand five fifty

[1:07:56] four we're at that number I was going

[1:07:58] across the board

[1:08:00] I'm sorry where is that number uh I'm a

[1:08:02] letter from uh okay I'm sorry

[1:08:06] projected class for 2023.

[1:08:18] we're trying to keep a handle on all

[1:08:20] this that's that's what we're doing here

[1:08:26] why does the unemployment insurance

[1:08:28] figure go down by like 40. oh because uh you know what happens when we have

[1:08:35] a coven we had a huge amount of people

[1:08:38] leaving

[1:08:40] whereas now uh

[1:08:44] is kind of some stabilized yet

[1:08:48] the other big factor in here is our new Mana yeah uh that's uh gone up

[1:08:57] to uh uh 2 million three hundred

[1:09:01] two million two hundred and forty

[1:09:05] and uh that was 100

[1:09:08] 80 90 000 Acres they've been very good

[1:09:11] for us our

[1:09:12] retired employees say they love it uh it

[1:09:15] comes to uh four thousand three hundred

[1:09:18] sixty three dollars a person a year wow

[1:09:21] that's

[1:09:22] pretty cool yeah it's pretty good yeah

[1:09:25] um my other question is I just don't

[1:09:26] understand

[1:09:27] um I just don't know what this is the

[1:09:29] insurance buyout can you just tell us

[1:09:31] what that is yes

[1:09:34] oh

[1:10:05] hmm

[1:10:07] uh I think you pay for quite on a

[1:10:09] quality basis they're very good

[1:10:15] yes it's probably less expensive than if

[1:10:18] we were paying Insurance okay I just

[1:10:22] wasn't like sure

[1:10:28] yeah

[1:10:28] um a yearly family plan on our on our

[1:10:31] things that cost twenty of thousand

[1:10:33] dollars

[1:10:46] [Music]

[1:10:56] because no right because of covet people

[1:10:59] really stopped going to the doctors

[1:11:02] we haven't seen that increase you can't

[1:11:04] go that's been saying good our biggest cause Believe It or Not uh

[1:11:09] like that does like 60 as our high cost

[1:11:12] claimants people you know 25 people were

[1:11:16] very built cost hey

[1:11:19] 60. it's part of the rest of the 700

[1:11:22] people

[1:11:26] what happened

[1:11:34] questions

[1:11:42] I noticed that through every um home

[1:11:45] study Department we see employee drug

[1:11:46] testing yes can I see that myself

[1:11:52] well because uh I I don't know it's

[1:11:55] probably because there's nobody uh

[1:11:59] everybody's part-time nobody drives the

[1:12:01] vehicles

[1:12:04] golf carts right yeah

[1:12:06] I don't think so no I'm not bring it up

[1:12:10] for Chris yeah yeah

[1:12:12] just because I saw everywhere else and

[1:12:15] that one was there over there

[1:12:19] any additional question on this section

[1:12:21] yeah go ahead please all righty so you

[1:12:24] said that the insurance is spread out

[1:12:28] I'm not seeing it so where I I know I

[1:12:31] woke up one before I came there and I'm

[1:12:33] trying to go through my shoot some

[1:12:34] content

[1:12:38] foreign

[1:13:16] almost to the end

[1:13:19] you'll see the coupon

[1:13:22] oh here's the soundtrack right here so

[1:13:25] uh yes that's weird we have a call for

[1:13:28] 29 566. uh right it's about uh larger

[1:13:33] 450 000 soar a million three excuse me

[1:13:38] general fund 13-6 and uh RX 70 000 gives

[1:13:43] us a total of fifteen thousand four

[1:13:46] ninety nine fifties 566. my point is

[1:13:50] that it's not changed much at all that's

[1:13:53] we're purposely do that trying to keep

[1:13:56] it because as like I said we look like

[1:13:58] well it's like you know really we're

[1:14:00] going to have some excess money and so

[1:14:02] I'm trying to keep it low because I want

[1:14:04] to erase that portion that I was trying

[1:14:06] to avoid raising taxes or raising fees

[1:14:09] yeah

[1:14:12] I mean that's that's what we're trying

[1:14:14] to build

[1:14:15] I can't I think I'm trying to people

[1:14:17] right what a point for our episode our

[1:14:19] consultant tells us don't even know

[1:14:22] where she says so that way I know that

[1:14:24] will be okay and I said I saw that this

[1:14:26] year but it looked like we're going to

[1:14:27] happen

[1:14:28] like uh John said a little Surplus over

[1:14:31] there and I want to keep that going

[1:14:35] like they're those words

[1:14:38] I think I'm thinking of the big picture

[1:14:40] yeah yeah

[1:14:42] any additional question

[1:14:57] all right let's move to um

[1:15:08] correct there you go

[1:15:11] [Music]

[1:15:12] mm-hmm

[1:15:19] our total debt surface is up 10 to 685

[1:15:23] 374.

[1:15:25] um yeah one of the reasons is that we uh

[1:15:28] when we rebonded everything and uh

[1:15:31] we only have one band out there right

[1:15:33] now uh let me just

[1:15:35] do what you have

[1:15:37] um

[1:15:39] increase values like you said now so now

[1:15:41] what we're doing is instead of paying

[1:15:43] the interest on dance or paying a

[1:15:45] principle knob too so that's why that's

[1:15:47] why the increases yeah

[1:15:49] uh let me just give you some figures

[1:15:51] that we have here

[1:15:57] the general fund we have a binds out for

[1:16:01] 65 million seven hundred thirty five

[1:16:03] thousand dollars

[1:16:04] uh soars 34 million 950 000 Waters uh 12

[1:16:09] million 691

[1:16:11] 000 golf is 849 850

[1:16:14] 000. so it's

[1:16:16] 514 000 but just in pounds they also

[1:16:19] have bands that those suppose are

[1:16:21] anticipation notes of seven million 447

[1:16:25] dollars and we have leases out there at

[1:16:28] the two point

[1:16:29] two million dollars so there's there's

[1:16:32] quite a bit of that we're handling it

[1:16:34] you know and what we did in the last

[1:16:36] couple years is we went back and took

[1:16:38] anything over a four percent uh we we uh we get that we uh we uh

[1:16:48] refinance refinanced it there it is I

[1:16:50] can't think of it we refinanced them and

[1:16:52] uh you know we got the percentage of

[1:16:53] like two and between two and a half

[1:16:54] minutes so uh and again like you said it

[1:16:58] was just paying uh

[1:17:00] figure a part of the Princeton

[1:17:05] yeah

[1:17:08] they're not really happy about that but

[1:17:10] yeah

[1:17:11] it's invested evil and that's right

[1:17:15] um

[1:17:18] Joshua is that questions

[1:17:36] I think they capture everything I don't

[1:17:38] think I missed anything other than what

[1:17:40] we have scheduled for tomorrow

[1:17:44] [Music]

[1:17:44] um

[1:17:47] what I would like to ask if you have any

[1:17:50] suggested change

[1:17:52] please email it to Anthony

[1:17:55] so that way we're ahead so if any

[1:17:58] changes or any proposal to changes that

[1:18:01] you may have please email us out to the

[1:18:03] internet you know what thank you copy

[1:18:05] people sorry yeah

[1:18:08] did we talk about that tomorrow night

[1:18:10] yeah but if you haven't you wanted to

[1:18:12] turn it to them ahead of time that way

[1:18:14] they can able to be in a better position

[1:18:15] to explain it tomorrow

[1:18:18] because we still have to meet tomorrow

[1:18:21] and then we can discuss that if not we

[1:18:23] can just

[1:18:24] you know discuss it

[1:18:27] tomorrow evening if my time how is

[1:18:29] Friday for everyone are we good for

[1:18:32] Friday that we can do meat I think it's

[1:18:36] good with something yeah

[1:18:37] we want to wrap this up and get this

[1:18:40] because we're going forward if not we'll

[1:18:42] have to meet next week

[1:18:44] and probably a special uh city council

[1:18:47] meeting there

[1:18:55] copy me

[1:18:57] and I will be an answering like what I

[1:18:59] do all the time to get the answers

[1:19:01] that's all the questions I know it's hectic but um

[1:19:10] yeah if you have not received answers to

[1:19:13] your questions please let me know I know

[1:19:17] you have one more that the one that was

[1:19:19] located yesterday from what years if you

[1:19:21] can just put in a writing for me I can

[1:19:23] see Paul today yeah I mean this is all

[1:19:26] this stuff I I like to share that to all

[1:19:29] the council members to all of us on the

[1:19:31] same pages in terms of the question I

[1:19:33] was asked and the answer is I uh the

[1:19:36] thing you asked about the county cars I

[1:19:38] got the other ones but the county cars I

[1:19:40] have told you know pull the files on you

[1:19:42] know because Joe is not coming back

[1:19:44] until next week I thought it was coming

[1:19:46] back uh soon I just follow the files

[1:19:49] tomorrow that's why we can

[1:19:52] Italian vehicles

[1:19:58] that was one of the questions I was

[1:20:00] asked

[1:20:01] yesterday I thought I thought Joe was

[1:20:04] going to be in uh

[1:20:06] yeah

[1:20:11] that's the only one I'm standing that

[1:20:13] comes with yes

[1:20:14] the one that you did back and forth

[1:20:17] today yes we did got an answer to some

[1:20:19] of those yeah if you go through all your

[1:20:22] questions and if there's any missing

[1:20:25] we'll get there

[1:20:28] um so people have changes they're

[1:20:30] sending them to the mayor and me and you

[1:20:32] yes

[1:20:38] what we have done in the past is that we

[1:20:40] spend their time or we don't need to do

[1:20:42] that or be sanitize

[1:20:46] on the floor

[1:20:48] so that really have answers to anything

[1:20:50] any concern no why you can't do this

[1:20:52] that'll probably be Friday night yes so

[1:20:56] if you can send any any suggestions just

[1:20:58] before we ask them the questions are

[1:21:00] they providing or the answer providing

[1:21:02] proposals gotcha changes to them so that

[1:21:05] they can come back with

[1:21:09] I just remember to make changes where

[1:21:11] you're adding stuff you can either take

[1:21:13] it away

[1:21:20] [Music]

[1:21:22] you know well maybe you know from about

[1:21:25] something no one had a fun bounce or

[1:21:26] Oracle loss or or uh yeah you have to

[1:21:30] take it out of a different alignment

[1:21:31] number so yes remember it's not one way

[1:21:34] it's a plus or a minus

[1:21:39] you know like it says if you want to add

[1:21:41] stuff in your photos other places you

[1:21:43] would think this job is not required or

[1:21:45] not you know whatever you can take that

[1:21:46] out and add

[1:21:48] along that line you know it doesn't have

[1:21:50] to be the same department but yeah

[1:21:53] it's going to be the same fund the

[1:21:55] fund's got to be all the same yeah

[1:22:00] if there's nothing else at full

[1:22:02] brightness I have solution to recess

[1:22:04] I've got to write this time

[1:22:09] yeah on a favor all right thank you all

[1:22:13] in favor

[1:22:15] um

[1:22:20] foreign

[1:23:44] you know

[1:25:16] foreign

[1:27:15] so

[1:27:42] much

[1:27:48] foreign

[1:28:20] everybody

[1:29:07] [Music]

[1:29:49] thank you

[1:30:11] people

[1:31:29] foreign

[1:32:59] thank you

[1:36:55] foreign

[1:37:03] okay

[1:38:42] thank you

[1:41:43] foreign

Schenectady 2023 Budget Meeting #3 - Oct 19th 2022

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