Schenectady 2024 Budget Meeting, October 13, 2023 - Part 2

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[0:00] um the board chair I don't remember who
[0:02] it was at the time we had a letter from
[0:04] board chair where there was a similar
[0:05] situation okay where the person wasn't
[0:08] didn't show up for things they were
[0:10] supposed to show up for so I clearly we
[0:13] need to do something to address it so
[0:14] that people realize that you're
[0:16] [Music]
[0:23] not is it possible for to email your
[0:27] suggested sure abely yeah and it's we
[0:31] you know we're fortunate and that we
[0:32] have some time for so I'll I'll we can maybe um give our input so before
[0:38] we
[0:39] bring I'd love to hear what that will
[0:41] Str whatever you're looking to do to yes
[0:44] that would be wonderful you probably
[0:46] work with HR to try to figure that
[0:49] out counil thator Council it's kind of
[0:54] oh no they're just kind of paid out I
[0:57] like I give I give Anthony a document he
[1:00] signs off on it and then I do a invoice
[1:03] for all of the staff members of the like
[1:06] said for this in case we did we went through codes we went through
[1:10] legislation we yeah we did unfortunately
[1:12] I mean at the end of the day I don't
[1:13] want to do anything against what our
[1:15] city code says but yeah I mean this is
[1:18] like let me just ask did you ask the
[1:20] individual hey are you willing to take
[1:21] half since you only showed up half the
[1:22] time no this question was not would not
[1:25] be agreable to that okay so we'll do
[1:28] with that I know we disc a couple years
[1:30] ago this very same room here we had a
[1:34] the who was the chair I don't remember
[1:35] who the chair was at the time the chair
[1:37] came to us same thing um it was oh was
[1:40] it Mar or say it's probably the same
[1:42] person okay because it was I can't
[1:44] remember no it wasn't is it wasn't the
[1:45] current chair different chair it was
[1:47] only two years she just passed away it
[1:50] must be before my I think it was a woman
[1:52] Bill Sanders oh no it was yeah I can't
[1:54] remember her name she's she just passed
[1:56] away very season oh did she really yeah
[1:59] okay so was a woman I just I remember
[2:01] that I just don't remember her name she lived in cerg village for a while
[2:05] and I went to visit her she it was a
[2:07] nice one she was
[2:09] great
[2:15] we this was brought to this was brought
[2:17] to our attention a couple years ago when
[2:18] we were doing a a recertification
[2:20] renewal of individual and then there
[2:22] were question from the chair that we
[2:24] should not proceeded and then back and
[2:25] forth back and forth and fcil decides to
[2:27] move forward and here we are again so
[2:29] this was opportunity for you to help us
[2:33] you allow us to help you to address it
[2:35] so you don't have to deal with this next
[2:37] year it's and it's more of a you know I
[2:39] mean it's a tough it's a it's a long day
[2:42] not everybody pulling their it's one of
[2:44] those you know I appreciate I I find it
[2:47] um you know you're not there for the
[2:50] initial day what you're going to be what
[2:52] are you delivering well that was my you
[2:56] almost could weigh in on anything
[2:57] because you weren't there for but have
[3:00] to look at every application and not
[3:01] everybody goes through grievance day who
[3:03] submits an application so
[3:07] it's okay but I'm happy thank you I
[3:10] appreciate that let's address it please
[3:12] this is the opportunity to do it and we
[3:14] we're going to help appreciate that so
[3:17] that's that's any other questions for
[3:18] the assessment office no seeing none
[3:21] thank you Molly and have a good evening
[3:23] have a good
[3:24] weekend all
[3:28] right
[3:31] we'll see you by the
[3:33] door all right we'll go we'll go back up
[3:36] to page two and we'll do Finance
[3:40] Administration and then roll our way
[3:43] down and close out all right Finance
[3:48] Administration
[3:50] a1310 uh poos 2023 adopted budget
[3:55] 39500 24 budget 39 395 492 is 7%
[4:01] increase uh see
[4:05] fills just walking through the budget
[4:07] quickly the longevity is Anthony
[4:11] director Commissioner of finance and
[4:12] Deputy Commissioner of Finance
[4:15] positions um the admin expense uh which
[4:18] we're keeping the same as last year
[4:21] that's for um Civic plus the Del um
[4:25] subscription uh Tyler business forms um
[4:29] fees for services uh that's for our
[4:32] auditing or kak company whoever CPAs
[4:36] that's for theorder for every year and
[4:39] the reason why it's additional 8,000
[4:41] more than the previous year is because
[4:43] uh in 20 Arps I would
[4:47] imagine had to do this
[4:49] many oh okay so got do a bit more work
[4:52] got it yeah another expenses cic plus is
[4:55] the city website cost there which under
[4:59] fee for service you mean correct okay um
[5:03] travels and conferences that's um for
[5:06] nygfoa that's Finance Officers
[5:09] Association for New York State and our
[5:12] conference that our accting use every
[5:15] year um inservice training uh that's any
[5:19] Mis training staff needs supplies that
[5:22] just general Staples coner and uh paper and uh
[5:28] ribbon um so that's pretty much it for
[5:31] the finance Administration portion of
[5:33] the
[5:33] budget you guys do your training in
[5:36] person or on my house we do both excuse
[5:39] me the travel and the conferences uh
[5:41] there are G to the
[5:42] conferences so actually we actually
[5:45] travel pass the onl there's both um
[5:48] Tyler um does online training as well um
[5:52] which we have a training this Monday
[5:55] okay for staff but dereck's been going
[5:57] to the conference whereever
[6:00] national
[6:05] conferences counsil in dispersement you
[6:07] want me to go through that one yes keep
[6:09] going if there's no question keep going
[6:12] coun dispersement yes Council
[6:14] dispersements go ahead
[6:16] 8315 uh adopted budget
[6:21] 31636 propos budget we're looking at
[6:24] 33843 that's a 7%
[6:26] increase um we have a full St
[6:30] um for the accounts
[6:32] dispersements um we're looking at uh for
[6:35] the longevity um we for two individuals
[6:38] that will be our accting supervisor and
[6:41] our senior depy clerk are coming out of
[6:44] that line the grade pay is uh right now
[6:47] is coming out uh for the uh purchasing
[6:50] mail clerk who is assisting us uh with
[6:53] um our senior audit clerk who's
[6:56] currently an attorney leave she's going
[6:59] to be out for a few months and we
[7:02] figure this is going to be enough to
[7:05] keep us for
[7:06] 2024 um let's see uh so other than that
[7:10] the 400
[7:12] lines the uh postage um we're increasing
[7:16] to
[7:17] 10,000 um right year to date now we're
[7:20] at
[7:21] 5,315 um we're looking to that for
[7:24] anticipating that's going to increase
[7:25] for next year uh the administr expense
[7:29] uh um that's our kofax PDF we're moving
[7:32] from acrobat to kofax throughout the
[7:35] city it's
[7:36] cheaper um and it gives you the same
[7:39] benefits for the most part um I've
[7:41] noticed um our travel conferences that's
[7:44] um sampo that's for our purchasing agent
[7:47] um nyj is for our accting supervisor and
[7:50] Junior accountant and also Unice
[7:53] sometimes we send one of them to cont as
[7:55] well um supplies um the general Staples
[8:00] are documents title forms Amazon
[8:04] Services
[8:05] Inc um HD in um the copard maintenance
[8:12] is our Xerox and I believe it's Canon to
[8:16] um as well um and then we're also
[8:18] looking at tuition reimbursement for our
[8:20] Junior accountant we want eventually uh
[8:22] give the accountable as long as he
[8:25] passes his tests and he's uh a more
[8:29] credits um to get his Bachelor um so
[8:35] opport do you have any vacancies the
[8:39] accounts and dispersement no all all
[8:42] fill except for the one person who is on
[8:44] leave correct okay I have a question
[8:47] goad okay as everyone that has ARA fund
[8:51] y
[8:52] so was this let me just was this
[8:55] position filled before the art of money
[8:58] came was
[9:00] Sarah Sarah came in and when no name no
[9:02] name purchasing person came the
[9:05] purchasing clerk came came in uh right
[9:08] at right when uh right before AR I
[9:12] believe she came in right at in 20 oh
[9:15] wait maybe
[9:16] 2021 so I believe we have position open
[9:20] yeah and so that's why SAR was
[9:23] [Music]
[9:25] in uh the person was in the position
[9:28] then she moved to the purchasing
[9:30] supervisor and then the new person
[9:31] filled the
[9:33] position the junior open and were
[9:36] eventually able to fill it
[9:39] after yeah because for two years we've
[9:42] used arpa funds so that's going to be we
[9:45] have to figure all that out
[9:47] yes all right is there no more question
[9:51] let's move to that one
[9:54] receipts okay receipts uh give us the
[9:57] rundown there of course can I can I just
[10:01] ask a question before you start so this
[10:03] is where I thought that maybe there's a
[10:05] typo on you look if you look at um under
[10:09] Administration salaries
[10:11] 132500 if you look at the real estate
[10:14] tax
[10:16] clerk well I don't know I mean in 2023
[10:20] you see the difference between
[10:22] 19770 and now
[10:24] 44906 that person that person half year
[10:27] thank you okay thank you sorry about
[10:29] that yeah if you look at the top that we
[10:30] have moved and combined okay thank you
[10:33] keep going sorry I didn't see that thank
[10:36] you3
[10:38] 25 um the adopted budget looking at
[10:44] 327,00 for Budget
[10:47] 3322 uh that's a 2%
[10:51] increase I believe they have a full
[10:53] staff
[10:56] uh and uh longevity is from the um
[11:02] supervisor receipts and also the real
[11:05] estate tax specialist um yeah the grade
[11:08] pay is given to the real estate tax
[11:11] specialist um when the supervisor is not
[11:15] in the office um postage is for all the
[11:18] task mails we do uh throughout the year
[11:21] I believe we have two major tax
[11:24] announ the they disc at the end um
[11:29] the advertising is with Z notices and
[11:33] taxes supplies staes Amazon
[11:38] woner uh me contracts are for the
[11:41] printers and
[11:44] um
[11:46] Solutions and oh I miss the uh equipment
[11:49] uh that's for their SE printer uh and P
[11:53] at the window it gives a receipt to the
[11:55] customer so they need make sure they
[11:58] have upd that are working
[12:00] correctly and that's all for backups as
[12:04] well are there any vacancies in this
[12:07] apartment
[12:11] no any questions under
[12:16] yeah is there a supervisor in there yeah
[12:19] Linds
[12:25] oh that's looking at the back here
[12:28] somebody's missing
[12:29] that's why I was wondering why she
[12:31] wasn't here yeah she couldn't make it
[12:32] today oh okay well she did reply she okay all
[12:40] right let's move
[12:43] to page 17 and there's a little bit
[12:47] there that we just touched
[12:48] on four items you look atal
[12:53] sprting um no page page 70
[12:59] 17 miscell miscellaneous undistributed
[13:03] expense okay um we have unallocated
[13:07] Insurance to the general fund uh we've
[13:10] been advised that we're going to have a 6% increase so we uh we uh added that
[13:18] for unal un allocated Insurance um that
[13:21] insurance passed through every fund so
[13:23] we have a a general water SAR and golf
[13:26] all page a portion of the m
[13:29] thanks uh under contingency U as you see
[13:33] in uh in
[13:36] 2023 uh we had that
[13:39] 300,000 uh as of uh right now uh
[13:42] actually we're doing so much better than
[13:43] we did in 22 because thank God not all
[13:46] the houses are burning down like they
[13:47] did in
[13:49] [Music]
[13:51] 22 where are so we're we're at about
[13:55] 190,000 so far so we're asking for the
[13:59] same for uh
[14:01] 2024 I'm sorry what does the concy cover
[14:05] oh we cover the things that are not like
[14:06] really budgeted like uh when a when a
[14:08] house demolition demolition house burns
[14:11] down or uh or there's like a a an
[14:15] expense that you know that we didn't
[14:17] know I think I think uh uh Paul had a
[14:21] hard time trying to purchase a a broom
[14:25] for the sweeper we actually took
[14:28] contingency just so CU we had to do it
[14:30] right away you know okay so it covers
[14:33] the things that are not
[14:39] budgeted why are the May's recruitment
[14:41] funds on the unart okay the what oh yeah
[14:45] we moved that we moved that the mayor
[14:47] recruitment funds there because
[14:49] according to Andrew Cen if it's in the
[14:51] mayor's budget it can only be for his
[14:54] budget so we put it here so if he needs
[14:57] it for water
[14:59] or different departments we can we can
[15:02] use it that was that was to ad I'm sorry
[15:07] should I mean that one maybe you could
[15:09] call it something else then so it's not
[15:10] that he's recruiting people for his
[15:12] office it's for General and that's why he moved that I mean
[15:16] according to Angel uh he said that
[15:18] because it was in his Department that he
[15:21] could only use that for his department
[15:23] so that's why we moved it out until you
[15:25] know undried miscellaneous so that if if
[15:29] another department needs it they can use
[15:31] it yeah the way it looks like right now
[15:33] it looks like the mayor's the only one
[15:35] even though it's in a different place
[15:36] looks like the mayor is the only one
[15:37] that could use the we could take the
[15:39] mayor out of is that the case no any
[15:42] anybody that well any Department well
[15:45] the mayor does the hiring and firing
[15:47] right
[15:48] so so if it's for recruitment so when a
[15:52] department means uh something say you
[15:54] got a budget of uh uh 60 something, the
[15:58] person wants 80,000 a year and you want
[16:00] to hire them yeah yeah then you can use
[16:02] that money to recruit them
[16:05] yeah you know it's not it's not for
[16:08] department for recruiting a new position
[16:10] yeah well it sounds like yeah that that
[16:12] was that was something I I suggested to
[16:14] the to me because there were time when
[16:16] there were difficulty getting people so
[16:18] there have incentive similar to the
[16:19] private sector where there's an
[16:21] incentive to get somebody on board yeah
[16:23] there's upfront um s in and you hire
[16:26] them and things like that but you know
[16:28] things have changed over the last couple
[16:30] of years regards to recruitment people
[16:33] looking for job now rather than we
[16:36] looking you know well like you
[16:38] said I don't like exactly like you said
[16:41] if somebody comes in and the payroll
[16:43] process like says that their budget
[16:45] 60,000 and they want 75,000 for instance
[16:49] then you know you they could recruit
[16:52] them with this with this that was that
[16:54] was the idea yeah it makes sense those
[16:57] were difficult times yeah yeah any
[17:00] question on on this go ahead please um
[17:03] on the senior center I see that your
[17:05] funding for three do we do anything with
[17:08] the ancient or of Hibernians in we are going to start yeah go ahead well
[17:13] I I actually have some notes to to speak
[17:15] to that if you
[17:16] want unless you were going to say no I
[17:18] was going to say as we we're mostly
[17:20] dealing with the Catholic Charities but
[17:22] now with Ancient Order of Hibernians uh you know uh because the charity is
[17:28] not you know fulfilling a lot of their
[17:30] stuff we have some
[17:31] excess money you know we're looking to
[17:35] bring a I can speak to that all right so
[17:38] we had some changes at Catholic
[17:41] Charities and so um for several for a
[17:44] few months I think like 90 days um we
[17:47] were down just to one of the programs of
[17:49] the three so that's why there's been
[17:52] some extra money that you see if you
[17:53] look at the year to date they've had um
[17:57] staff changes and we've been working
[17:59] with the new people and so we now have
[18:02] two going again um with the third going
[18:05] to be starting short soon um however I
[18:08] did talk um about this because the
[18:11] budget that they put in for
[18:13] 2024 it's my responsibility um they were
[18:16] late getting it to me um because we were
[18:18] so new with this new team and so I got
[18:20] it to the mayor later than I should have
[18:24] I was like a couple weeks late so their
[18:27] budget for 2024 is
[18:28] $60,000 from Catholic Charities for the
[18:31] three programs because the food it's
[18:34] primarily the food um they're going with
[18:37] they're going to be doing something
[18:38] different than what we had originally
[18:39] set up um and even if we had gone with
[18:42] what we originally set up that vendor
[18:44] also have increased their prices but
[18:47] what that means is that this number does
[18:49] not include the Hibernians and so I've
[18:51] also spoken to the Hibernians and I have
[18:54] their budget figure also which is
[18:55] $114,000 that they will need um um which
[18:58] would bring this to an additional 29k
[19:01] that we would need um in the senior
[19:02] center budget so I know we'll talk about
[19:04] this when we discuss our stuff but so I
[19:08] know the Hibernians they have money
[19:10] through Community Development they do
[19:11] but and he he deducted that from right
[19:15] um what he submitted in so so I I know
[19:18] uh our discussion was we're looking at
[19:20] Capal Charities because they only so far
[19:22] it's only been 10,000 for a year right
[19:24] so we know we have enough money to to
[19:27] handle that difference for so you Flo
[19:30] that into next year's budget
[19:33] no we'll finish this year but then
[19:36] they'll have they'll have another budget
[19:38] for cdbg next year right the Hibernians
[19:42] yeah but that he's he's taking that into
[19:44] consideration this is what he needs for
[19:45] 2024 he needs an addition he will need
[19:49] his total budget for the year is
[19:52] $34,000 bless you and um
[19:56] he's thinking he's going to get the 20
[19:58] the
[19:59] 20 one is cdbg one is cdbg and one is
[20:04] through the here right but CD cdbg um
[20:08] he's counting that in he's still going
[20:09] to need
[20:10] $144,000 that is already accounted for
[20:12] in the cdbg to be approved the oh just
[20:15] recently no that's the 20 that's the 20
[20:17] which
[20:18] 20 his budget
[20:21] is4
[20:23] $344,000 okay he's getting 20 from cdbg
[20:27] so he's going to need $14,000 which is
[20:29] not accounted for in this 45,000 there
[20:32] is money in CB that's from prior Year
[20:35] yes I think that's it that's that's his 20 grand that we're giving
[20:39] him from
[20:40] cdbg okay I think told me I I I think
[20:43] yeah we went through this last year can
[20:45] you pull the report for us to see how
[20:46] much money is available to the r of hbor
[20:49] cdbg cdbg funding they are lagging
[20:52] behind and their funding that is going
[20:54] to take them through so I think that's
[20:56] the reason why it was cut last year
[20:58] because they were money there the pot
[21:00] yeah they weren't sure I just want to
[21:01] make sure we cover everything they
[21:03] weren't sure that they were going to do
[21:04] anything this year too because then they
[21:05] lose a cook or something yeah uh they
[21:08] did and that's why he was down a little
[21:10] bit but now I mean he has to repl he has
[21:12] to replace the cook no they they have people in place and they work
[21:15] in l i just since you're talking about
[21:17] the this program here on this fre
[21:21] location are they fully attended cuz
[21:24] I've been hearing that they're not
[21:25] people are not attending that's why we
[21:26] had to cut that's why they stopped
[21:28] because they were having issues and part
[21:30] of the reason that they were having the
[21:32] issues at the other two sites was that
[21:34] the people didn't like the food
[21:37] yeah they're re they're revamping the
[21:40] program um and hopefully it'll be
[21:43] successful going into this this next
[21:45] year because I did receive a lot of
[21:46] complaint in terms of the food the
[21:47] location and the theice so that's why
[21:50] that that those two locations are no
[21:51] long we're funding here
[21:54] $45,000 we have one already wait wait let me just clear so the two you
[21:59] there were three yes two were not
[22:01] performing correct so now you have a
[22:03] different two we have yes although one
[22:07] of them is in place and started already
[22:09] at St John the Evangelist it's new it's
[22:11] only been a few weeks um and the other
[22:14] one is still to be determined and then
[22:18] um
[22:19] start but Belle is doing great um the one the one a diamond it is so
[22:26] needless to say it's good food and they
[22:28] get a great oh they get good food from
[22:30] there yes well of course they yeah so um
[22:34] I don't know I just thought that any of
[22:37] those changes would have come back to
[22:38] the council for discussion so this is
[22:39] the first time honestly it's really new
[22:41] just happened it's really new but they
[22:43] were shut down for like a while CU we
[22:45] didn't know about that were they were um
[22:48] just putting it out there there's
[22:49] another group that's starting one case
[22:51] you want to consider them um at the
[22:53] Friendship House I understand that
[22:54] they're getting ready to do a senior
[22:56] senator there as well I know so what
[22:58] that is so you could you know what that
[23:00] is it's connected to Friendship Baptist
[23:01] Church they friendship okay um up but
[23:05] it's not in the church they be clear
[23:07] it's up on State Street near hawk or
[23:09] something so it's so if they've shut the
[23:11] one down that was at Crossings it's sort
[23:15] of a similar area okay I don't know
[23:18] where your other was considered but that
[23:20] one I can let them know too clearly
[23:23] closed yeah um well I'm glad you let us
[23:25] know cuz I well I was kind of waiting
[23:27] for tonight to cuz I just literally this
[23:29] is all like within the last several
[23:31] weeks no no but how long have they been
[23:32] out of not working oh those were those
[23:34] were out for quite yeah quite some time
[23:38] yeah yeah yes and then they were out of
[23:41] service but then they were not fully the
[23:43] attendants were were lagging they were
[23:45] not at like the full capacity that's why
[23:48] they that's why they went that they were
[23:49] like a few people attending and it
[23:51] wasn't worth you know the the the two
[23:54] sites weren't working yeah exactly so
[23:56] that's but then then there's been these
[23:59] other changes at Catholic charity so
[24:00] that's been part of the issue as well so
[24:02] it's been The Crossings and what was the
[24:04] other one that wasn't working it was
[24:05] Stein Mets Park and The Crossings okay
[24:08] Hillside Crossing so do they have a new
[24:10] plan in place that they can present to
[24:12] us I can have them I that would be a
[24:14] good idea yeah I would like to hear can
[24:16] they do that
[24:20] um not this Monday but um I will let me
[24:24] contact them and find out when they'd be
[24:25] ready to do that but we'll have them
[24:27] come and present like we did when we
[24:28] first started CU we might get this
[24:30] budget before that can they email if
[24:32] they have a presentation or a plan in
[24:34] place email it to to us let me um yeah
[24:37] if you don't mind yep so um do you also
[24:40] want to see what the hyberg is they're
[24:44] we contractor from cdpg the invoice
[24:46] submitting I was told that they are
[24:48] being paid up front now they're not
[24:49] behind in payments which is kind of good
[24:52] remember there was a struggle to get to
[24:54] get them paid and it was a struggle a
[24:56] struggle for them to to submit voice
[24:59] think that and to get all the people
[25:01] work but um now they are current and
[25:04] they're current with terms of red boys
[25:06] they current in terms of payment oh good
[25:08] so thank you all for doing that to help
[25:10] them out okay so they are I know we met
[25:12] with them a few times yes I know we met
[25:14] several times back and forth and they're
[25:16] running good I mean their attendance is
[25:19] way over harage very good now we're
[25:22] getting people I will tell you that I
[25:25] went to the one when it started at St
[25:27] John the Evangelist
[25:28] people to hians as so remember that our
[25:31] initial goal was to try to have
[25:32] something 5 days a week um so those
[25:36] people are you know coming to this so
[25:38] hopefully it'll as we continue to grow
[25:41] and you know how how um how many days a
[25:43] week is the high burning open two two
[25:46] Tuesday Tuesday Thursdays so our goal is
[25:48] Monday Wednesday Friday they're going to
[25:50] be Mondays they are Mondays and then
[25:52] bellw is Fridays and so it's the
[25:54] Wednesday one that we're still so but B
[25:56] is not functioning right now B is B is
[25:59] going very well well
[26:02] no so miss peld you mentioned
[26:06] friendship why don't we contact them and
[26:08] see if they can um fill in that um let
[26:11] me can I just I'll ask cath because
[26:13] remember we I do want to say that we
[26:16] contract with Catholic Charities and
[26:18] basically they need to figure that out
[26:21] but that's I'm going to tell them about
[26:22] that place well I think and I think well
[26:25] that's Friendship House wants to be I
[26:27] think under Catholic Charities I think
[26:29] they well if as you said food is the
[26:32] issue I have it's my belief that they
[26:35] would they would fix the food so I don't
[26:37] know how that would all work out if food
[26:39] is the issue then maybe we I don't want
[26:41] to talk about people no but anyway um I
[26:44] think they would be preparing the meals
[26:46] much like the diner does okay so let me
[26:49] um let me talk to I'll give you um the
[26:51] contact information you want yes please
[26:53] send it to me and I'll give it to
[26:54] Catholic Char go ahead please and I know
[26:57] receive the document next week from
[26:59] Catholic Charities are you able to speak
[27:00] to that $60,000 is it an expansion in
[27:03] services or to be fully it would be to
[27:06] have three programs the cost of the food
[27:08] and the cost of the Staffing so yes that
[27:12] is what it is as opposed to the 50 thou
[27:14] it was actually 50,000 last year was the
[27:16] budget so oh 45 I know but we it was
[27:20] actually supposed to be 50 was the
[27:22] original budget that they gave us okay
[27:24] so they're only going up yeah they're
[27:26] only going up 10 it's just that the food
[27:28] C so so let's look at the plan let's
[27:30] look at the the location that they
[27:33] secured and we will like these SES
[27:36] around our city we would like to it we
[27:38] will We Like These service around our
[27:40] city so now we we are funding it and
[27:43] then it's not functioning that's a
[27:45] problem for all of us and the only one
[27:47] that is keep running is H Boran Hall the
[27:50] senior centor there and Belle and now St
[27:53] John the Evangelist so let's look at
[27:55] that and we can determine Way Forward of
[27:58] this way I think the other thing we need
[28:00] to keep in mind is part of what you
[28:02] originally planned was to have it in
[28:03] different neighborhoods of the city so
[28:05] why I want to make sure it's not all
[28:06] concentrated in one part of the city and
[28:08] another part of the city there there's a
[28:10] vacancy so I think it's important that
[28:12] we look at that especially since we lost
[28:13] one yeah at the
[28:16] crosss yeah I agree all right so we'll
[28:18] look at
[28:20] it thank
[28:22] you if I me can we get an actual for the
[28:25] hbor hall in terms of where they are
[28:27] yeah how much is available how much what
[28:30] are you looking for the funding for C
[28:38] CER under cdbg D
[28:41] cdbg you need do that next week yeah but
[28:44] there was money I thought there was
[28:45] money in the operating budget for
[28:47] Hibernians as well as the CB last year
[28:49] no no no there because it's Catholic
[28:53] cherry and the mayor asked me about it I
[28:54] said well because Catholic Cherry hasn't
[28:56] been using we only use 10 thou almost
[28:59] 10,500 said there's money left over so I
[29:02] said you know maybe if the if the
[29:04] Hibernians need money soon they can we
[29:07] can you know use this money now you know
[29:09] if they need it now yeah you know what I
[29:12] mean POS that's why I the question CG we
[29:16] used to roll it over every year at one
[29:18] time I can recall that they wanted
[29:20] 30,000 and we end up giving it 20,000
[29:22] and then they were money on the cdbg
[29:24] line that fill that Gap yeah once we get
[29:27] to report we'll see the history of it
[29:29] okay and how much is available in the L
[29:32] TOS I think there's a year or two I
[29:34] think they have last year in this year
[29:36] and then they got next year but the next
[29:37] year money really doesn't start until
[29:40] next year but you not you know January
[29:43] starts
[29:44] later yes because it's cdbg it's they
[29:47] were they were never in the operating
[29:49] budget which is why I brought the
[29:50] question should we add them because
[29:53] that's right they're getting their money
[29:54] in a different way okay yeah we'll we'll also look at that it's a good idea
[29:59] to have I I think yeah we'll look at
[30:03] that in terms of funding and where we
[30:04] taking the money to fund all the Senor
[30:06] Center I think they should be all
[30:08] together I do too yes and that's
[30:11] something I'm going to recommend that's
[30:13] a great IDE I was going to recommend it
[30:14] next week but I'm going to recommend it
[30:15] since we talking about um I would like
[30:18] to see that I've been asking since when
[30:20] this happened last year but all all
[30:21] seniors enter in one bucket with their
[30:24] own allocated amount it makes it easier
[30:26] to yes easier to track easier for the
[30:29] staff and the paperwork Trail and all
[30:31] these things that the senior center has
[30:34] to submit and the staff has to go
[30:36] through um we need to take out some
[30:38] burden from our staffing and and the or
[30:43] of H Buran has been they have a track
[30:45] record good track record so I I think no shade on the other ones but well you
[30:51] know starting up something new there's
[30:53] always going to be some so hopefully and
[30:55] I think you know I feel pretty confident
[30:56] with the the team that they now have in
[30:58] place and so I'm going to suggest is
[31:01] that somewhere like mid year we hear
[31:03] from them on how they're doing because I
[31:05] had no idea that they were it was not
[31:06] working out well so um but I will
[31:09] obviously try to get them in sooner okay
[31:12] yeah oh sure sure sure but I don't know
[31:14] make time for the budget to be back no no I know I know but if they could
[31:18] email us something just to Y so we know
[31:20] what it's going to look like yep all
[31:24] right thank you let's move on
[31:29] to
[31:31] page
[31:33] 40 we this these
[31:36] are
[31:39] commissions D just touch on on big item
[31:42] tickets anything that we need to know
[31:44] not small
[31:46] item we have the the youth
[31:50] employment we did we did we did we did
[31:54] all we did Zing appeals plan commission
[31:56] already we did historic commission
[31:59] already okay was they didn't talk about the
[32:05] hisory commission must have missed it we
[32:07] didn't didn't cover we didn't touch on
[32:10] youth programs we did when really was
[32:12] here yes
[32:14] we the other four we didn't touch but um
[32:18] it's straight forward yeah there still
[32:21] same as last
[32:23] year we'll move to page um can I just
[32:27] ask a question sure about the historic
[32:29] commission so totally tin how many
[32:32] people um how many people are on that
[32:34] committee and is it
[32:38] full all right I'll send the email to
[32:43] Michelle you you going to send an email
[32:45] or you you you want one more I mean who
[32:50] because the commission seats and stuff
[32:52] that comes through the mayor's
[32:55] office depends turn to streamline I'll
[32:57] make sure we have all the questions okay
[32:59] so we can we can send it through M yeah
[33:01] absolutely so we don't miss anything
[33:03] want information yeah we're not missing
[33:06] anybody's yeah we're not missing
[33:07] anybody's U question and answer all
[33:10] right so let's move to page 48 and this
[33:14] is Anthony's um
[33:16] favorite favorite he was waiting for
[33:19] this whole year wait a minut which one
[33:21] page 48 benefit benefits
[33:25] 48 as you as you you can see our
[33:27] employee benefits especially under
[33:29] retirement is really increased from 105
[33:32] to uh 111 so that's about a $500,000
[33:37] increase um of course that's due to a
[33:40] couple things that's you know we're
[33:41] adding more people are coming to work
[33:44] and raises that we're providing
[33:46] especially to police and fire and um uh
[33:51] other the other unions uh their social
[33:53] security contributions is all based on
[33:55] the the payroll formulas that we have
[33:58] you know the
[34:01] 00765 total of the payments uh life
[34:04] insurance for the police and fire uh let
[34:07] me see benef unemployment insurance uh you know actually it's been doing
[34:12] very well uh disability insurance our
[34:15] biggest cost uh that went up a million
[34:18] two is is our uh health benefits um and
[34:23] that that is uh and that you know it's a
[34:26] big factor
[34:27] uh we actually hired a we have a a a
[34:31] health insurance uh analyst to help us
[34:34] to make sure that we do and um they are
[34:37] projecting the cost to be 14% higher you
[34:40] know um they're saying that uh there's
[34:43] going to be a 4% enrollment increase due
[34:46] to projected hiring uh medical Trends
[34:49] are going to go up 6% Pharmacy's up 6%
[34:53] one of our biggest things is 30%
[34:54] increase in our stock loss premium and
[34:57] that the stop- loss premium is is when a person uh a single person goes over
[35:03] $175,000 we have a special Insurance to
[35:05] kick in to to pay for that and right now
[35:08] we have 15 people really over
[35:12] that right now so so that insurance is
[35:15] really helping us you
[35:17] know one of the big factors uh coming up
[35:19] in 2024 specialty drugs uh um because
[35:25] you know the huge increase of cost
[35:27] specialty drugs yeah what's a specialty
[35:29] drug uh uh you know uh like for instance
[35:32] um um calus you know the for uh when you
[35:37] have pis yeah do you know that's like a
[35:40] it's a drug that cost like uh $122,000
[35:44] an ejection wow yeah okay we have people
[35:46] using that we have a list of you know
[35:49] people with the high cost drugs you know
[35:51] W 14% seems like um what it I mean
[35:55] that's it doesn't it isn't it often
[35:58] going up that much every year we we've
[36:00] been really good in fact uh we we've
[36:02] been really steady and holding our own
[36:04] we think with MVP has been our
[36:06] administrator they've been doing very
[36:07] well with us and so uh This what they
[36:10] explain is this is like the after Co
[36:13] thing now people are actually going to
[36:14] go back to the doctors or actually you
[36:16] know so that's that's what what they're
[36:18] expecting um hopefully uh uh this year
[36:22] our Trend looks like we're going to
[36:24] either be even or a little bit under
[36:26] budget
[36:27] but we're we're holding very well so far
[36:29] this year so uh we're we're preparing
[36:32] next year uh to uh you know for next
[36:36] year to go through our uh for instance
[36:39] our y for our retirees went up a
[36:42] straight 6% which we were holding our
[36:44] own you everything else everything else
[36:47] is pretty stable after
[36:52] that so Anthony I've known over the
[36:56] years you had um especially Health
[36:58] excuse me the healthare section yeah you
[37:01] had um submit to us like performal
[37:04] invoice or estimates do you have that by
[37:06] any chance say one more time performa
[37:08] invoice estimates with regards to these
[37:11] costs going on the healthare
[37:14] cause last year you from the analyst
[37:17] yeah yeah yeah I have it right here you
[37:19] have that you want to report yeah if you
[37:20] don't mind can you um have copies for us
[37:23] to show how you know the trend yeah
[37:26] absolutely yeah last year did that help
[37:28] all the budget scenarios
[37:30] everything
[37:32] y rate history I got the rate history in
[37:35] there I got all set for it I'll I'll
[37:38] have them one of those expenses that you
[37:41] want we can do it on send it
[37:44] electronically or no I I no I have make
[37:46] hard cop for us please can you scan it
[37:48] not um yeah no you want a hard cop not
[37:51] enough not enough let's finish off we
[37:53] can have like we can deal with that on
[37:55] Monday Monday pleas
[38:00] there's no question just oh please do
[38:02] you have a year to date on our employee
[38:04] drug testing employee drug
[38:07] testing the number I think is that my
[38:10] department okay yeah I can get I can
[38:13] find it for you a
[38:15] 98984 is that the same
[38:18] Department that's that's the whole city
[38:20] we the whole oh okay cuz I saw them by
[38:23] Department I saw different department
[38:25] where's the problem
[38:27] sorry that I just want to look it
[38:32] up year to date
[38:35] 3,900 thank you
[38:40] yeah 3,900 usually when we hire a new
[38:44] person um do the drug test okay so
[38:48] there's we don't do the random testing
[38:50] anymore yeah not for this okay so uh let
[38:55] me just be clear because I saw saw um
[38:57] under like for instance under Paul's
[38:59] Department I saw employee drug
[39:05] testing it was um maybe under water sore
[39:08] maybe are we allowed to do that it was
[39:11] on the contract I beg pardon are we
[39:14] allowed to do that I don't know it was in his department and it was
[39:18] allocated like 900 and we only spent
[39:20] like
[39:22] $490 I specifically remember saying that
[39:24] on the water there's $1,000
[39:27] I and are very low what number is that
[39:31] John under the tab water fun y page um
[39:36] six and and the year to date was
[39:40] like yeah yeah maybe because it's a
[39:43] different
[39:44] fund it's a thousand bucks yeah okay
[39:48] yeah testing because we do General water
[39:54] sword General General water and so you
[39:57] do abide the different funds oh because
[39:59] you got to get them out of the funds huh
[40:00] you got to get them out of those funds
[40:02] yeah yeah yeah that makes sense under on
[40:06] so we random random is uh is okay when
[40:10] they get in an accident we can't send
[40:12] them to get drug tested we cannot corre
[40:15] I think that's that was contract some thaton you couldn't do
[40:20] that yeah he did discuss this almost
[40:23] every bu on control of the year for last
[40:26] several years there's something in the
[40:28] contract that says that we cannot um do
[40:31] the Dr they can do they can do randomly
[40:33] you
[40:34] can well that's kind of kind of yeah
[40:38] doesn't make
[40:40] sense that's what we said yeah oh okay
[40:43] it's it's part of the Union bargaining
[40:45] if you were stopped by the police
[40:47] because you had an accident they and
[40:49] they think you're INX whatever that's
[40:50] the immediate thing that happen I'm not
[40:52] sure why we're
[40:53] different I think that's I think that's
[40:55] a different thing they think you're
[40:56] intoxicated just that we cannot just say
[41:00] you know a lot of times be prior if you
[41:02] got an assent no matter what we would
[41:03] send you but if a police officer says I
[41:06] think he's intoxicated whatever that's
[41:08] different right yeah so but so then they
[41:11] contracted that they took that out that
[41:13] we used to be able to do it is what
[41:14] you're saying and then they we I guess
[41:17] somebody grieved it and we
[41:19] lost wow yes a few years ago yes yeah I
[41:23] remember that
[41:25] yes okay said all of our yeah we have
[41:29] complete um our review I think so oh
[41:32] yeah we're not missing
[41:33] anything I want to thank everyone uh for
[41:36] their time and effort going through all
[41:38] the questions and all the answer that
[41:40] was provided it's now over to the
[41:43] council and we're going to meet next
[41:45] Wednesday the 18th and I would like to
[41:47] ask all council members please submit
[41:49] your
[41:50] recommendation your concern and your
[41:53] changes that you may have I'm going to
[41:56] put Anthony in the spot if you choose
[41:59] please reach out to answer me copy
[42:01] myself with any suggestion but I would
[42:03] like you copy me so I'm aware of what's
[42:05] going on and we can keep track of it and
[42:08] when we meet Wednesday we all have all
[42:10] the
[42:11] information together and to track all
[42:13] the
[42:14] changes and hopefully um we can have a
[42:17] budget um next week oh that' be
[42:19] wonderful do you want Miss Mich on that
[42:21] or no for the any information that well
[42:24] yes yes because um it's relevant because
[42:27] M Michael will print all out and make
[42:28] sure that we all have a copy of all the
[42:31] answers all the questions copy me to
[42:34] because when you when you send it back
[42:36] to me I have Miss Michael printed out
[42:38] and we make sure that everybody has all
[42:40] com from member has cop the questions
[42:43] the answers to the
[42:44] questions all right all right you have
[42:48] Oh no you're going to recess no I have
[42:51] recess
[42:52] yeah yes come back once to recess second
[42:57] all in favor thank you I wasn't ready to
[43:00] go
[43:02] yet I mean last night was9 I don't think
[43:04] you I told you well last night was last
[43:07] night was Marathon because of so much it
[43:09] was a marathon it was because of the all
[43:12] the major
[43:18] departments
[43:20] [Music]
[43:25] do
[43:30] no Monday Monday are you coming Monday
[43:33] you're coming Monday
[43:55] right